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So there is no or uh like fee waiver like waiver forms or anything like that. There are none of those. And then we've taken or I've taken really our graduation fees and our eighth grade whatever those fees were called to graduate like I've incorporated those right into the budget. Moving on I've incorporated those in the budget so we don't charge those. All right. Okay. Well, I will look into the question of what policy has to explicitly say that there are no fees. All right. I'm sorry about these not being fees are not required. It doesn't say anything. But the question you're asking, should we put it in there? Do we put it in writing? Verbalize it. All right. The next one I think um Mr. Brown I think you wanted a question. I'm sorry. Five col 250 is the next one. Was a change or a question?
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It doesn't seem like um yeah, the 250 I was just uh we just I just said that it's going to be a no. I just wanted to make you aware of that. I'm going to answer no for the district because we do not uh vac uh does the board require fully vaccinated employees to participate in a district co 19 testing program. I said no. So that's going to stand as is. Um I think do unvaccinated people still have to get tested? No. Oh, okay. Yeah, that that has completely been removed from procedures. The other piece I wanted to bring your attention, this is a loose leap in front of you. This is just a revisiting of the U CSK magnet school. This was our policy that has been put into place. We always uh need to review it every year to see if we want to have any changes.
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And I think the question that came up more recently is we do have some open seats sitting there. So, John, I'm gonna let you kind of talk a little bit about this and see if the board would like to make any adjustments to this based on this. Go ahead and talk about that. Gentel Gantel, before you talk, can I just make a quick statement? But Dantel is getting ready to talk about it's a very and has been since day one since this policy was implemented to my knowledge. I know thereafter to my knowledge very sensitive specifically to University Park. So I'll just leave it at that that you can talk about. Okay. So the question was asked how do we fill more at CSK each classroom there are two sections of each grade level K to five. How do we fill more slots? Um I think the question came up because some of the other uh elementary schools um classes have you know capacity of 25 or more.
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So how do we get more students um in the CSK slots that are open? Uh and we have um the allotment by community which in my recommendation we would not change because that's the sensitive part about the communities and um how CSK came to be and how those um slots were allotted. Uh and so last year um working with Mr. remain in all of the building principles. We did a campaign asking parents um who may not have been aware of CSK uh do you feel that the inquirybased learning uh would be beneficial to your student and if so um would you like to um move your student from their current school into those slots? Um and then we were able to fill 20 more of those slots. Um and Now we have about 50 slots to fill and they are based by community. Um so one of the thoughts and uh we have not discussed this with Mr.
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May because the board just asked is uh without touching the town slots how could we you know again with the campaign how could we fill additional slots? Um and the only um in brainstorming what we came up with is uh right now in policy it says that a student cannot enter after the 15th day of school. So let's just take we start on September 1st we do not allow students to enter CSK after like September 16th 15 days of school. And so then we would um if we change that because we have a high mobility rate. we know that we have lots of families coming in and starting with us. Um we could um open that window a little longer and allow those families again to have their community slots that are available. Um but it would allow those families some extra time. So we could extend that window if that was the desire of the board.
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So we could extend it two weeks, 30 days to the end of the trimester, whatever it is that the board would like. tell what's the limiting factor I mean um I'm trying to think how to phrase the question but you know if if we have our aotments for university parks 40% so 20 seats in in a grade level of 50 students where what communities do we are not filling their slots is that the way to think about it or you know it it it varies it varies by grade um it ves community. There's no um I can tell you uh Moni has probably one of the lower number of seats and so they always fill those spots because they only get six. Um and so we always have students on the Moni. Um but I would have to take a look and I can provide that data to the to the board of the unfilled slots that we currently have.
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Just curious what the average class size is over there. Um average um here I can do kindergarten has 20, first grade has 23, second grade 20, uh third grade 22, fourth grade 15, fifth grade is um at its max at 25. So what's the concern? Is there a concern? I'm not really kind of following here what the concern is. Yeah, because there's a lot of schools are at capacity and CSK is not. Well, they're talking about that. Can I just Oh, I'm sorry. So, I'm missing the concern here. So, if the concern is if if I understand it right, when a school hits it capacity, overflow goes to another school, right? So whether they're from Mooney Creek, Park Forest or University Park, they get, you know, they go to, you know, whatever school. So who's not filling their seats? Is it Mooney, Park Forest, or UP?
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It it's a bit I could give you a breakdown of uh what community seats we have available by community, and it has to get it gets updated a few times a year. So of what we have available is the 15 day because of the curricul curriculum. Yeah. And the way it is like it's because it's different. Yeah. So whether it's and you're talking about K through five, correct? So the curriculum one from one to the next is not going to matter if it's a 30 days or 15 days. It would it would not it would not. So I don't understand why we limit ourselves. And the other thing is if we're missing seats, why wouldn't we reach out to those communities in the schools, the students that come from there and just fill the seats? And we that's what we did last year with the campaign that we did go to those communities.
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We sent an email just say you had a third grader and there was a seat open in Park Forest. Um, we sent out a letter to all of the Park Forest parents that said we have, you know, three seats available that are Park Forest seats. Would you like your child to have one of those slots? So, is CSK required to have a specific amount of kids? Is that another concern? It's just the capacity. No, the question I think was brought up of um I think at a last month's meeting like we were one of the I think Boro had like 29 students in their fourth grade class and so and and your average there is six 15 or 18 historically for fifth grade um that class is at 25. So that cohort of students have traveled really we've only had one or two slots over the last five years that have opened up with that fifth grade team.
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Um I would say historically that fourth grade group when they came in as kindergarteners they came in with like 13 and for whatever reason whatever year that is these fourth graders those slots were were at 15 there. So, so the fourth grade in Balmoral, Creek, Mon and Talala, are those class sizes 25 and above? And and is the one at CSK not? CSK is at 15. Balmoral is at 2728. Tala fourth grade is 2321. fourth grade at Creek is 28 and 24 and at Mon it is 23. So with those numbers, what's the magical number? Is it 26 before we have to have a conversation with the union? I think any any class size over 26. It depends on the grade. For kindergarten, it we cap at 25. Uh for first, second, and third grade it is 28 and for fourth, fifth, and sixth, it's 32.
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So I guess the question is is are these those numbers that you just gave us 28 and 24 whatever the class is that that's now obviously but do you know that in October are they the same or they've changed? Yeah, it it it changes. I think uh Lyall can speak to when we started moving students over from some of the other grade levels. What now? When when you said earlier when you was talking about we had a high mobility rate, does that mobility rate is it kind of connected with CSK or are they pretty consistent? If I would have to I would have to look at look at the number of students when we do have students who transfer at the beginning of the year out of CSK. I would say this year off of the top of my head we may have lost 20 students.
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But if we lose them like after the 15th day of school, no one can come in and take those slots. So, so, so, so I understand this. We're if we're talking about high schoolers, even junior high, you're talking about the longer the time of not being there, the harder it is. But we're talking K through five, right? Correct. I don't understand why we don't change that that date so that we can fill those slots if they want to go in there because we can't have teachers teaching in classrooms that are 29, 30, 31, 28 when we have a classrooms that are 15. But there's a component too when it comes to that percentage. And again going back the history of how CSK became CSK that that's not what I'm saying though is you take the the the villages that are that need that are missing.
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So let's say University Park um I don't know how many students are there. Let's say there's 250 students there, right? And 200 students and University Park gets uh 40%, right? So that's 80. Well, if they're only supplying fif 60 kids, then we take 20 University Park students, we put them there, right? I mean, you're trying to maintain the numbers. And I'm not questioning that, but I'm questioning why we're waiting so long on a K through five when we should be challenging like asking parents early on like, hey, we're short on these numbers. Don't go out to the entire district. You go, hey, UP needs to fill 32 seats. CITE needs to fill 24 seats. Mon needs to fill two seats. We go to each village and tell them, you know, this is what it is and we fill the seats. So, so that's what you did here.
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And I think right because you're trying to maintain and then how long and what's the cut off? Where's the line of demarcation when it comes to Okay, University Park, I'm using them as an example. They only have they allocated for 40%. And at the beginning of the school year, they only had 30 30%. Just throwing that hypothetical percentage out there. And at what point do we say what's the cut off point that we say you know what do you leave that open that extra whatever percentage that's needed to get to 40%. Do we leave that open for University Park to have a chance kids come in in November or whatever to bring that up to 40% as close as possible. is wait and as long as you explain to the parents, right? Yeah, John, you miss Bergens, you explain to the parents, hey, this program is IB.
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It's accelerate. It's different. Yeah. And they have to accept that. Well, again, University Park lost technically the neighborhood school, right? They lost it. CSK is not really considered a neighborhood school for University Park. And as a result of University Park losing a neighborhood school, also academics, not achieving the what is it? AP AYP for two years in a row. Then the board at that time came up with this and they said, "Okay, because it was University Park, we're going to give University Park the higher percentage." So I'm saying, "However we do it, we just don't want to affect that sensitivity." Well, That's what I'm And that's where I'm losing it because I'm not trying to change any of that. I'm not saying we're trying to change. I'm saying just don't if we I'm not saying anybody's trying to change that. And I'm I'm good with And here's here's my and I'm all for it to not let those seats be not used.
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That's what I'm for. I'm% I think that I think the thing that that I would look at is first what is our campaign to get to tell the families about the school? That's one. The second thing is, okay, you can almost rest assured that um I would be looking at why do we how many first of all in the past it seemed like nobody left CSK. Why are kids you said 20 kids left CSK? Correct. What that to me that's something I want to look into. Why are they leaving CSK? Um because that that's are they moving? Are it's not always moving, but are they moving? Did they not like it? Um, did it just different private? And if they're going to private schools, that's even an issue because that was more like the private school of the district. So, I want to look at why are they leaving?
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Um, and how many per like is this gone up over the course of time? Can you please tell us that like this? I can try and find the data of you know the students that we lost. What was the reason code uh of leaking? Was it a transfer? Was did they go back to their home school? So we can look at that data. So then we we will do a campaign I think and as well as to tell the district about CSK and the families and if we and I think that would be huge because when it first started it was pushed out. We knew what it was. We even if you didn't know what I was you had an idea, hey this is different. This is available to us. Um and now I don't have because I don't have kids that age, but I don't hear much about IV or Well, I think in the beginning there were more more people applying than we had.
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Correct. But that's why, you know, so and over time it was pushed. So, if we got rid of the 15th day after school begins requirement, would you change that to another date during the year or just eliminate that requirement period? Um my recommendation if we wanted to be in sync with the other schools would be to eliminate it period and then kids get to come um and join that school. So even if it was late in the year and it's a third grader at least now you've got somebody to move into fourth grade next year etc. Yes. But and not to change like u Mr. Brown said the a lotment of seats. We would still campaign to the community. Anybody's question that? Yeah. I I don't I don't know how I mean I'm not questioning opening it up, but I don't know how opening it up um changes.
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Is it like um I get mad because my kid isn't doing well at Mon and I decide I want to transfer to CSK or because the kid who's transferring into the district can't just transfer into CSK. Correct. Correct. So opening it up, how does that if only if it's before the 15th day of school, they can right now. So if a kid transfers in and they start on September 3rd, okay, and there's an open slot, we will give that slot in that community to that family. So you would give it to them or that would they have to say, "Hey, I would like to go to CSK or would you say this school? Here's the here's an option. We're working with registration this year um to make families aware as they come into the district." Yeah, that seems to make sense. Okay. So hearing the date perhaps.
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Yeah. I just don't even know that we need it. As long as you explain to a parent, yeah, a K through five, this is the program and they're going to come in whether they're new or not and they're going to want to they should come in and see what it's about. And if they decide that's what they want, why not? I mean, and again, remember if you're short somewhere, and again, I think a lot of the work should be done in in, you know, enrollment, but in the first two to four weeks of school, we should really do a good job trying to fill those seats, not November, but really, I think we should be filling those in the first month, trying to reach out to families, reach out to the communities going, you know, there's there's available, this is why. Yes, we we sent out messages, uh letters, roocalls, um any way that we could get that message out.
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