2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 58
Uh there's two different types of tablets here. One is our flow control and then the other one would be used for a resolution area. If someone alerts, the image will be displayed on the tablet and that person can be directed to a separate resolution area to resolve any type of uh threatening object that they may have. Uh so let's get on with the demonstrations. The first thing I'm going to do is walk towards the front side of the system. Here I am on the front as if I'm entering a facility. I'm just going to walk through at a normal pace. I don't have to stop or anything. And you can see that nothing has happened on the system or at the tablet. And that's because I don't have anything threatening on me, but I do have everyday objects like a cell phone and keys and a wallet um that are non-threatening and don't be considered alerts.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 59
Now, I'll demonstrate an alert using a backpack. Here I am on the front side of the Express and I'm going to walk through normally and what you may have heard is the alert. So, I have an item in this backpack that does alert. It's shown on the tablet screen, and in this case, it's a a pressure cooker device that could be used as an explosive device. Next, I'm going to show you what it looks like for kind of non-threatening items in a backpack. And again, I'll put the bag on my back. I'm going to walk through at a normal pace. And again, you'll see nothing has happened. And in this case, I have a lightweight laptop. I have a power adapter and some of the usual stuff that uh someone may have, you know, in their bag. The next alert I'm going to show is an item that may alert in a bag that's of a smaller material.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 60
Here's the bag again. Here I am walking through Express. You can again you can hear the alert from the tablet. You can see the lights on the back of the system turn red. And in this case, it's the barrel of an assault rifle. So, we can find large objects and we can find smaller types of objects that can be threatening. The last alert I'm going to show you is an item that's on my person. I'm going to put a jacket on so it's concealed. Again, here I am on the front side of the express. I'm going to walk through at a normal pace. You'll see the lights on the back of the system turn red and you'll hear the alert. And in this case, it is a small firearm that's on my hip that the express detected. So lastly, before I move on, I'm just going to show you a detailed view of that alert and how it shows up on the tablet screen.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 61
So you can see we have two different types of images that we show on our tablet. One is a static image with an with a box around the area of the threat and the other is a moving image which really tracks the movement of that particular item as it goes through the express system. So it makes it very easy for operators and guards to determine where the item was found and how to resolve it. I'm going to talk about some additional controls that are available to the operator to identify threats and tag them but also request assistance if needed at that particular location. In this case, because I walked with through with a firearm, I'm going to tag this alert as being found finding a gun. I'm also going to request assistance to a supervisor that a gun was found at this location, at which point the supervisor will be notified by text that there was an incident.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 62
So that's just one brief example of how these devices work. They look like metal detectors in terms of the the statute, the the sidewalls. Um they can come in single or double versions that we just saw. um they target more specifically weapon grade items rather than um everyday instruments that our kids might be bringing in such as laptops, your headphones. Um it can be calibrated to certain sensitivities whether you want it to pick up the the flute or the clarinet or or some other instrument or not. Um in those terms, again, I'm not an expert. I'm just speaking to what I observed, what I've researched, what I've learned. Uh board is interested in looking at getting some sort of detection devices. Metal detectors are are great and they can be a deterrent. Um, this is an option that that allows us to do very something uh similar if not better than metal detectors with less staff and more convenience to our students and visitors at the same time.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 63
What I did not see on there, it detected the larger mass of a weapon, the gun and extension, rifle extension, whatever that was, right? The barrel, whatever, did not show a smaller. It said it would not detect ordinary things like keys. Did not detect detect the keys. That's telling me it probably would not detect a metal a bullet a bullet that's lead but the casing is metal. That's a good question. Uh I don't or a small knife. Correct. I don't have an immediate answer because I haven't I haven't seen everything but um what I understand it can and there's two categories to that. We're not so much concerned, although it's not legal to have a bullet in the school, um, and have it on person or on property anywhere, um, we're less concerned about a single bullet than the item that can be brought in to fire that bullet, too.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 64
Um, this system would definitely detect that, uh, the bullets themselves. And I can't speak to the the intelligence that this device uses and the types of metals or phosphorous things it picks up or whether it's it's the granules of gunpowder within that shell. Um, I'm not I'm not intelligent enough to speak to how the device operates. Um, it's a good question, but that's a question I think um it might appear in the FAQs um that I included in the packet as to how it determines a weapon specific item. Uh, it also um there's some issues whether or not it it picks up blades that are one or two inches long or five or six inches long. I don't have an answer to that. Um, and it might due to the calibration that the device has. Um, again, I'm not bringing this here to sell you on anything and say let's get it now.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 65
But I wanted to to show you what I've learned, what I've observed, and provide some other options that I I think are more convenient for what our communities would look for in a weapons detection system as opposed to a straight metal detection system. What what I like about it is so when what what you do is you have the some schools that have metal detectors some schools have metal detectors in the conveyor belt to send the bags to. What I like about it is it kind it sort of has it's a twoin one. Um even if um you have just metal detectors, there still some things because people idle. So if I do hide something, at least it gives me an idea. So I do like that. I mean, I guess we do have some questions about other capabilities, but I don't think those are questions from a negative standpoint.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 66
More of a curiosity to see what our limitations are. So that we understand what the limitations are or even other strengths that you might find out. But I do like it most most of I definitely like it. I mean it's it's I mean it's 10 times greater than a metal detector just from the standpoint of waiting and just how you can just go through and I have walked through a couple of those before not really knowing what they were. Okay. So my my question my last question here is I think we were talking about metal det cost like $8,000 for a metal detector. How does the cost with this device relates to the old metal detector? Uh this is significantly more more mo yeah more um up more uh the the cost value um you're dependent on on the vendor you might go with you're you're paying for devices as you would standard metal detectors but you're also paying for a software um usage and fee um and that becomes proprietary to to what they so you're kind of leasing you might buy the device but you'reing the software for a one or four year package on how some of this rolls.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 67
Um, and that gets you the updates, the upgrades along the way, as well as additional devices. And there's more to it than traditional metal detectors because you've got those those visual pads, the electronic pads, um, which multiple come with each stand. So, you could have somebody standing um, a security administrator standing at the entrance point staring at the pad too and watching lights come through, somebody over here, they can communicate between their pads. Um, also is convenient is this will record. Not only do you have the the um visual of the of the person coming through as you saw that that can be a recording um but it also generate reports for you um electronically by the end of the day. Um your your school administrator can go through download um the entire entry of students from that period if we started opening the doors at 7 a.m.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 68
and we got our last student through at 7:12 a.m. per You can get a report generated how many bodies came through that how many alerts or pings we had on it. How many were false positives and we determined it was just the trombone. Um how many were legit hits on something whether it's a bait pen or brass knuckles or an actual weapon element and then a blade or firearm form. It'll generate a report for you. You don't get that out of traditional metal detectors either. How many did it say came through in an hour? Was it 1,600 or 36? How many students would come? 3600. That's why I thought it was 3,600. And that's the the uh the people flow is in that packet there in terms of number of items. And so how many would I say how many would we need? We have would you Great question.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 69
On our student arrival, we at the high school, we primarily have uh three entry points for students. We have our main entrance where we have our walkers, our um student get dropped off by a parent or somebody and our student drivers park in the front. when they come in the main entrance. So, that would be a point that we'd have devices. And then we have our A and our B wing where we have um our bus lot and those kids coming off the buses. And we probably have 11 to,200 kids coming off those buses right at 7 a.m. all coming into the building at once. and um it's staggered as they get off the bus and move, but it's a constant line of students coming in that's uninterrupted at this time because they come in, make a decision, go to their locker, see a teacher, go to the cafeteria.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 70
Um we we would filter 11 to,200 students through those two doors. So, you can say 600 on each of those wings. Well, I think that's what I like. I like the the flow of it because I think when you have kids standing around, you could obviously have more problems erupt. you know, someone's gonna shove somebody, something's gonna happen. That's a trade-off. But if the flow keeps going, I think that's just a I like it. And none of this is and again, none of it's perfect. Neither metal detectors or a device like Evolve markets itself as 100% foolproof. There are the anomalies that that we have to deal with in the human world that that things happen. Um, but it markets itself as as more convenient, more accurate. Um, the the documentation we can get from the devices is very real. And what I like is the convenience of flow where even though if you have traditional metal detectors, you're going to have a line.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 71
You're going to have a as Dr. Hall alluded to, there's a TSA process that takes place. You're going to have pings. You're going to search bags, persons, and it's just going to happen. That's the nature. Uh we're going to treat every pain with attention. Um and then that's where the lines will develop. And even though you say, well, we're trading off assuring security and you got to deal with that, but now we're creating another security issue in the forms of lines and that not even count the inclement weather that's out there. You said that it was, you know, significantly more, but if you look at the ratios, it's 2 and a half to one to 3:1 more people you have to have with metal detectors compared to this. Yes. So, it's four to 10 to four. So that's six people we don't have to have that we're paying there again is part of the trade-off as well is to keep everything moving.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 72
It seems to and I'm sure with the AI technology they're going to be able to we're going to be able to tell them what we want to search and they're going to be able to to tell it to what to look for. Meaning if we wanted to look for a bullet can I answer that question? No. But I'm telling you the software has got to be there because they're doing it in airports and everywhere else. Correct. So, and if we're paying for the service, someone will come down, we would tell them what we wanted to start looking for, and then you just keep evolving as you go. Yes, that's my assumption how that's going to work. I think you're spot on. And Bill, thanks for bringing that up because in the committee meeting this morning, we talked about the difference in staffing with metal detectors.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 73
We know that we're going to need more detectors and we're going to need more people. So, you know, at some point, you have to figure out the tradeoff for what you're getting for your money. The other This morning you made a visit to you told us I visited a few local schools. Yes. Can you give them I asked you in the meeting about how many uh students they had, how many came through and the timing. Could you just tell what you did see to give them an idea of what you saw? It was kind of similar. Sure. One of the schools I I visited um has a double lane just as you saw pictured there has a double lane in place. They have pretty much one primary student entrance for their They have a a staggered start day um for a couple hundred of their students based on some career classes and things like that.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 74
But they all come through the same entrance um as the buses drop them off and it was pretty flawless when when there was an alert or a ping as you see it on on the tablet. Um security administrator there would just kind of usher the kid out of the line or point to it. Kids were very cooperative. It was low stress. kids came over, opened the bag. Okay, thanks. You had an amplifier for your guitar. Okay. And um it was it was reading those and and not reading some other things. Um in terms of the convenience for headphones and things like that, it was very smooth. It happened rather quickly and rapidly almost normal other than from my perspective. I saw the tablets, I saw the devices, but I saw a lot of good cooperation out of students too because there was no stress and there was no inconvenience of having to weights um to get where I needed to be inside the building.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 75
So, what system did they have? Same. They had that system. This system. Yes. So, they didn't have metal detectors. They had this. They went right the um that district has four high schools and they outfitted all four of their high schools with this system. Did you go to a high school district that has metal detectors? Yes. And how did that function? I I think they had a very organized process and it went very well. Um to what you can expect, the lines of students waiting multiple multiple minutes from the start of the the day where the buses unload and get kids in to get that last kid through was a great inconvenience. Um and I was visiting on days where the weather was cooperative and nice, no awnings or anything for anybody to stand over. They had to increase a lot of staff. And it was very TSA like because it was ping ping ping search search ping ping ping search search search search search search search.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 76
Uh the school one school had to develop a special pass process uh your metal detector pass because the system delayed you get the first period um by a significant amount of time. The kitchen staff had to also adjust their schedule because kids won't get into the lunchroom on time for their morning breakfast. Um but their pass got in the breakfast and then they they got to class and then halfway through first period there was normaly that you can see but it was as much as you're looking for the convenience of of security and deterrent there was a great inconvenience to operate the day. Thank you Robin are these portable they can be uh yes they have wheels you can move them if you need to move them from one entrance to another. Um they they spoke to their durability to that but my experience with technology uh I would I would prefer to have devices that stationary to assigned to an entrance and not be moved.
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2023-02-15 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u COTW Meeting 2/14/2023 Part… · passage 77
Um, but they do have the convenience if you have to move them. These that we saw are not designed. Um, they have two different models. They an indoor and outdoor model. So, you can you can order models that would be more rugged for the elements and used at outdoor facility events too. My is my thought is um activities like you know show choir we just had you know we have hundreds of people coming into the building who aren't normally there or even gra I was looking around at graduation last year you got so many people coming into the building that aren't normally there you know can you move it over to the activities entrance or have one set that's kind of dedicated to move maybe you know you have permanent ones for the school day, but you have an extra set that you can move around for, you know, certain activities where you want to heighten the security.
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