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[Music] all right foreign [Music] FM W time [Music] thank you [Music] supper time [Music] thank you [Music] no no no no no [Music] no no no no no no yeah [Applause] [Music] what's up a day [Music] thank you [Music] thank you [Music] thank you [Music] [Applause] [Music] top of the time [Music] thank you foreign [Music] thank you [Music] foreign [Music] the Anaheim Union High School District a Board of Trustees meeting of April 13 2023 is called to order at 301 PM the falling members are present Jessica Guerrero Anna L Percy Catherine H Smith Ann Marie Reynold Trejo and Brian O'Neal staff has requested the following Amendment to the agenda page two uh poll closed session item 4.6 4.6 okay that was a hard one to do page 21 of the agenda poll item 10.20 10.20 on page 21. there we go everybody got those okay do I have a motion to adopt the amended agenda we have a motion a second all in favor say aye aye opposed thank you that's 5-0 public comments anybody wishing to speak okie doke the Board of Trustees will now hold a closed session to discuss items 4.1 through 4.7 on the agenda
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okay the meeting is open and the live stream is going all right well thank you everyone for joining us tonight I'm thrilled we have a full house we have all of our members this is wonderful um I am actually going to hand it off to Miss Jones our chairperson to call the meeting to order and to get us started welcome I'd like to call this meeting to order of the Surplus property committee at next we have roll call Richard Brown Stephen Castro Corazon senen Edward halva Vanessa Jones president Johnny Liu president Hector Miranda here Terry mon heraz here Sam Perdomo here Karen rogley here Lori Ray here next we have the approval of the minute could I all have those in your binder can I get a motion to approve the minutes and please state your name Terry manhuras motions to approve the minutes can I get a second and hold on everybody in favor hi hi hi next um let's just pause for a minute when we take a vote let's ask who's in favor and who's opposed just so just think so everyone has the opportunity to express a name is anybody opposed emotion um next is item 4.1 public comment do we have any public comment okay are there any public comments online there are no public comments online thank you and now item 5.1 the presentation of surplus property update thank you all right well before we get started um I just wanted to give a brief introduction for what to expect tonight uh we have Lauren Jennings here from dcg um she is here to represent the firm that has been working on a substantial amount of work and is bringing a lot of data and information to you tonight um essentially the the board has a contract with dcg and they were hired to do a like a feasibility review for each of these properties so they have analyzed each of the six sites and they've reviewed things like zoning and land use planning restrictions and had conversations um with city folks and County folks for example to get information about what some potential alternative options are for these properties um as a reminder from our last meeting at the very end we asked if there were any questions or if there were if there was any requests for additional data um we heard that there were questions from a number of you and we hope that the information presented tonight will answer some of those questions um in addition there was a question about what potential District uses of the properties was the staff or board considering and we will also address that here at the end of the presentation so just know that we've gathered that information and it's our intent to answer those questions tonight but I will also ask again if there's any additional data or information that you're looking for at the end of the meeting so we can bring that back at the next um so with that I'm going to hand it over to Lauren to get us started with our discussion of the data for tonight awesome well good afternoon everyone my name is Lauren Jennings I'm with dcg strategies and so Sarah's already set it up for me but as you all know today's conversation will be focused on the six properties that you all are studying for potential Surplus uh via the 7-Eleven committee so our team we have been we were contracted with the district um in response to a request for proposals so the school district released a request for proposals um I would say last summer and they were in search of a development consultant who could assist the district with assessing feasibility for all potential alternative use options for the six properties and so the six properties that we were contracted to work on are of course the six properties that you all are looking at for tonight's 7-Eleven committee who are the 7-Eleven thing in general um and so just real briefly some history on who we are as a company so our firm again dcg strategies we've been around for nearly 20 years and we specialize in working specific quickly with public schools and districts throughout the state of California so my all of my clients are public schools throughout the state and we are provide full service real estate and so what that means is that we do development General land use Consulting as well as brokerage services for schools again throughout the state of California so happy to be here and excited to chat through our sites on today and so uh I'm sure you are all familiar with these sites but uh just to level set and make sure we're all on the same page these are the six sites that our team was contracted to analyze and these are the six sites that will study that we'll discuss um today so we have them listed here Center Middle School Alice Ellington Elementary School the former Sierra High School Mountain View Elementary School Powell Elementary School and then Slauson Middle School and so these are just some of the key findings that we're obviously going to talk about this in a lot more detail and before we further go into it um we have a lot of slides that we'll get through today and so it'll be a lot of information and so I have built in a few pauses at various stages of tonight's presentation and so um feel free to either hold your questions till I have the pauses however if at all if at any time you have a point of clarification or a question that would really serve the entire group feel free to pause raise your hands fall out stop me and I'm happy to answer your question obviously I am here to answer any and all of your questions and to really serve on behalf of the 7-Eleven committee and so overall in terms of the development feasibility our team was tasked with studying at just over 58 acres of land so between the six properties um it was 58.51 acres to be exact we'll go through individually on each of the sites the exact parcel size for those individually but again it was just over 58 Acres that we studied and so one thing that we'll talk about when we go through each of the different sites just so we're again we're all on the same page is that of the six sites they are located within three different jurisdictions and so I'll talk through what jurisdictions are according to what site but essentially what that means is that there's three different um bosses that oversee the the difference I think probably could use a different word but there's three different uh jurisdictions that oversee it and so those are city of Azusa city of Glendora and then the County of Los Angeles and so as we'll talk through the sites you'll notice that four of the properties actually have in Azusa address um however only three of them are within actual city of Azusa City Limits one of the sites is in in an incorporated area of Azusa and then another site is an unincorporated area of Covina and essentially unincorporated um I did provide um it's in the booklets I believe I saw them there's a glossary of terms and so um I'm not sure if you've had a chance to read through that prior to but there is a glossary of just a general turns but I'll do my best to be able to uh to pause and explain them but essentially when we say unincorporated land that is land that is not within an official City boundary and so when you have an incorporated land then the land falls under the jurisdiction of the county so in this case it would be the County of Los Angeles and so once again two of the sites are in under County jurisdiction um again because they're unincorporated areas and so as we'll talk through today the properties hold a variety of different zoning designations as well as land use designations and they range in classifications reserved for public agencies which obviously makes sense because the properties are currently owned by the school district um and then some of them are actually already zoned for residential and we'll talk about why and how and and how we got there um and so zoning and general plan those are also two terms that are on your glossary definition sheet as well but essentially um any real estate and development in modern times um is all um it's thought about way in advance and the way that the local jurisdiction whether the city or county the way that they um set up their rules and set up their development patterns is via zoning and general plan and they and with the general plan they call they're called land use designations and essentially if you're driving down let's just say the street in Azusa um if you're driving down downtown Azusa you see all commercial and Retail that is not by chance that is because the city or whoever the governing jurisdiction has said we want this area to be our downtown and we really want to see commercial and Retail and so because of that they Zone the area to allow for certain uses and in that case of your retail or commercial use and then if you keep driving you'll more than likely run into a residential neighborhood area and then you'll see that the use changes to all residential um it could be all single-family homes that are all clustered together again that is as a result of zoning and land use designations because the city has designated that area to be an area that allows for residential housing and they do that because um nine times out of ten are really ten times out of ten you really don't want to have a single family residence that's local get it next to a 10-story apartment building and so they this local cities and counties and jurisdictions really want development to align with the surrounding area really to preserve the character and that's just how you do thoughtful City Planning and so we'll talk through um uh the zoning and the land use designations for the sites because that's really important to understand and when we are discussing potential alternative use options for the properties and then one thing that we'll also talk about too is just where the market is at in general right now um I think it's no surprise to anyone in California that California has been and is in a housing crisis and so we'll talk about some recent uh not even recent but it's just legislation that is at the Forefront of um really every city and every County um specifically in California whether it's Northern and or Southern California so we'll talk about some of that legislation which again really helps to level set some of the findings that we have um and so we'll move moving on and so overall again just starting off with the Azusa General market um actually let me pause here for uh questions any questions in relation to what we just discussed that we've sort of just set the Baseline right now but any questions before we move on are you going to talk about what can be built on residential or okay yeah awesome okay all right so uh first just starting off with just a general market right it's really important when you're thinking of alternative use options and when you're just analyzing real estate and development in general to understand the market that you're playing right I'm sure we all hear like the the cheesy real estate sales person always has location location and they say that for a minute for a reason because location really is important so it's really important to understand some of the background in terms of the market and so specifically within the Azusa Market uh one thing that we looked at and reviewed was uh what's called the housing element and so every city and every jurisdiction has to produce a housing element and interestingly interestingly enough the most recent General plan that is currently active that the city of Azusa is abiding by was approved in 2004 and that was nearly 20 years ago and so back in 2004 the general plan stated back then that open space and or vacant land was sparse within the city and there was essentially not any vacant land that was developed but that was available excuse me for development and so because of that the general plan back in 2004 uh stated that the city really needed to focus on infield development in order to meet its development goals and its housing needs and so infield development is another term that is included in your glossary sheet and infill development is essentially development on Parcels that are already built up so that could be a variety of different things that could be for example a parking lot right a parking lot technically is already developed because it's a parking lot but if a someone wanted to come in and build housing on a parking lot then that would be considered infield development another example of infill development could be taking an industrial Warehouse or to a warehouse that's on Industrial land and then converting that to residential so it's essentially anything that is already developed within an urban within an urban area and the reason why infield development was stated in the the general plan and why what's important was because essentially there was nowhere else to develop so because of that everywhere is developed and there's no vacant land you you were forced to to resort to infield development and so I will talk about this on some of the future slides because actually two of the properties that apply to this but um uh the slide here says that by the end of the 1960s really uh the city of Azusa was pretty much fully developed and so that has led to again the need to develop on infield property um and so because of that um and then because of a few more items which we'll talk about on the next slide in terms of recent legislation at really the local policy makers as well as city and county staff are completely aligned in their need to increase housing stock and so that was something that we heard loud and clear when we met with the local policy makers was that um they are aligned in terms of needing to increase housing stock not only within Azusa but also just within the county in general and so some of the as I mentioned when we first started uh recent legislation that is at the Forefront Forefront of everyone's mind um is What's called the Regional Housing needs allocation and so um the shorthand for that is rhna which uh a lot of people say Reina so if you've ever heard somebody say Rena and they're talking about housing they're referring to the Regional Housing needs allocation and essentially this is a process that is completed every eight years um and it is a mandate by the state of California and so the Housing and Community Development hcd of California essentially every eight years puts out a mandate in terms of how much housing is needed in every region throughout the state of California and essentially htd not only says how much housing is needed but then they also State how affordable that housing needs to be and so um it starts at the state level and then hcd puts out numbers for every region and then every region then has another entity that then assigns or allocates the number of units to every city town and jurisdiction underneath their region and so for locally for you all in Southern California The Entity is called the Southern California Association of governments and the shorthand for that is scac so a lot of people might say Scag and essentially skagg received the number of units from hcd and that number is listed here it's one million three hundred forty one thousand eight hundred twenty seven units and so hcd said that over the next eight years and the eight year cycle that we're referring to right now is October 2021 to October 2029.
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let's see Lindsay here I am sorry please thank you good afternoon Do you have a something you'd like to say or just want us to ask you questions and well you can ask me questions but uh I'd like to hear a little bit about this yeah so again I'm Lindsay ball I uh was asked to do an interim position uh last year about this time one of the big reasons I would like to do it and have been doing it because my passion for education I know we need to do a better job of reaching out and finding and locating kids and putting them in preschools at an early age but the other one is I'm really passionate about improving the housing for our teachers because the areas that I oversaw as an educator or as a superintendent teacher housing is a real issue we lost teacher teacher applicants they would accept jobs but then try to find housing specifically in Hana and on Lanai and not be able to find housing and even the house we have on OluKai has been negative collected it'd be nice to make it so teachers want to live in those facilities that we have the same is true on on Lanai and some of the housing that we had on online for teachers it was refurbished by by students so but that's that's probably not the right thing we should be doing I mean housing so teachers want to be there and they can accept jobs when they've been offered jobs and those remote locations thank you Lindsay um so your background is you have you have been currently temporarily on the school facilities agency since June of last year 2022.
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I say and maybe it's just the rendering but it look it to me it adds um just another layer of um detail that's kind of nice it's and it's not as heavy as the every other floor piece um so I I again I wasn't quite sure what it was but I kind of caught my eye um I just think it adds another layer of of uh character to the building I don't know I will learn that I don't know if others feel that way but um I mean I think in general um you've done a really nice job I think Echo Lori and saying you did a great job presenting this very concisely um and you know I like the materials um you know the the thoughtfulness of the materials that the base uh where people are walking um you know the breakdown of the towers tall buildings are hard to design well and I think you 've you know done a nice job I like the variation of the windows and I don't know if there's other places you could add that in you know not just on the South South Side right yeah we're looking to kind of apply the same um Rhythm everywhere it's just I think we've not gotten the that part yet but that's the sort of I would just Echo Tamara's um sentiment as well I think you've done a really nice job of kind of leveraging all the tools at your disposal shifts in massing the you know articulation at a variety of scales changing materials at the base there's a richness of the solids on the ground plane versus the kind of more Lacy effect of the patterns above um so not a lot of comments on the building itself I do have comments about the site plan I'm um how wide is the driveway I know you're using the current curb cut but how wide is that curb cut that's about 17 feet wide okay and I'm not sure if the midwestern has done a turning movement study yet but I'm having a lot of trouble imagining how one actually removes trash turns around and gets back out of there and actually I mean those two dumpsters are stacked one by the others I don't know how you get to the one behind the one in front of it um it's a trash truck making that turn or is that a vehicle making a car making that turn that is a trash truck and so this is a little bit different because you're right when we after we submitted for the drb but uh we had this done and we needed a little bit more space and so this is the current state of that plan right now not to bog you down with the details but that red shape is that is that trash truck turn and so um our trash room is here we would actually have to Stage the dumpsters out here and that trash truck would have to pull in turn and then turn around and then lift the dumpsters uh while it's facing down and so they don't waste management does not back out of a site so we actually had to had to provide them with the ability to turn all the way around on site so at this point we've had those conversations we do need more room than we were initially showing and in this site plan this is not enough room but we have corrected that in the current uh plans which are not much different uh but but a little bit different than what I just presented okay great thank you and is there any wall or fencing or any element along the property line between the library parking lot and your property right now there is not one contemplated but there is a meaningful grade change there so we will have to likely replace that um that uh retaining wall there because there is a retaining wall and I'm not sure if you can really see it the site image difficult to see but there is a retaining wall and some grade change uh you know you can actually kind of see it in Topo if you zoom in here there's several several feet of gray change very quickly and so um it's to be determined I think it's probably smart to put some kind of fence there just to um stop a trash truck from maybe accidentally pulling off the edge of that or something um or maybe continuing that uh retaining wall up a few feet just to provide a really solid barrier that a vehicle could accidentally roll over yeah I'm not too concerned about rolling over I actually think it's nice that you have a buffer of it looks like almost 10 feet for any overhang of the front of the truck or anything like that that would swing and hit impact the parking over there so just that Gap alone it isn't as fine for me having a barrier there is probably just a recipe for asking someone to hit it yeah that's all I have sting right can I oh sorry I like to back up a little bit uh to context um I guess I'm disappointed that there's no mention of the surrounding historic district and the elevation does not indicate anything to the east um no discussion about how a building of this size and granted it's a D1 but it's in the Liberty division character District it's not in the Midtown character District by one site um so how do you address the building of the size next to a historic district so it's unlikely to develop in the same scale you have townhouses facing into private yards um and a public walkway as well how how are you addressing all that well the town homes and the public walkway were both uh intended to address that condition because we felt that given the smaller scale of those buildings they're more tactile you're going to have people out in their backyards and we wanted to face flank those areas with uh presentable spaces that could be used and accessed by um you know the people that live just to the east of us um and so that is why we chose that side for the townhomes and not the trash we thought that you know the best place for the trash is a place where nobody's gonna see it and the best place for actually some active ground hor ground floor uses uh would be right across from where we have other kind of low-rise buildings and so we are you can see we've basically this is roughly the ground floor is in a c-shape face to the left but once we get above we face that c shape to the right so that there is some relief basically provided where there's Terraces and so this face of the building at least and I agree it's not you know the best but this face is providing some relief to those uh kind of lower low uh lower buildings that are in that um historic district uh and so you know we did try to design the building basically to provide that relief here provide a really strong line along these Town Homes to relate to the height that's across the street there or across the way which would be the the backyards of these buildings the okay one other thing I would say is that we're kind of in between two things we have the historic district to the right but to the left on this image we've uh highlighted all the larger Civic scale projects and so we're trying to bridge the gap here we are building a high-rise building we can't make that look like an old building it's it's going to need to have a modern design um otherwise it's somewhat of a lie uh in terms of the actual design and so we don't want to disguise that or or try to make it look like a clock tower or anything like that but we do in terms of form and in terms of program to address those uh historic properties along Division Street and we've done so with our step back which is in basically the middle of the property here and by providing these town home uh elements that flank that that kind of uh property line with active uses and uh but but not so active that they're loud but still kind of residential kind of two-story scale uses no I was just going to ask what the dimension is on the plot what's called The Plaza on that East Edge what's the width it's uh 10 feet wide by 200 feet long okay thanks uh as we developed the plan we can better show um the the um the interaction between the historic uh structures and the and that Plaza space um and develop that edge a little bit better with our landscape architect and consider um either um uh some sort of fencing to to distinguish um the not not like full height fence but some some sort of of a barrier to suggest a boundary between that historic structure and our our site um and and maybe as well address the parking lots um as you head towards Library Lane which are at the back of those properties we can look at that I think um I guess just one more comment I just in general and maybe this is addressed to Hank and Chris um some maps in the staff report that would indicate that type of I mean it wasn't mentioned anywhere about the historic district so I just would hope that in the future you can have that as a part of the the staff report that's all thanks goodly noted thank you for that comment I I want to wanted to continue with some slight issues um either for Hank or Chris from the city I noticed in your report one of the comments was the service alley needed major redesigned for trash and and Jay has walked us through revisions so are you too satisfied that this meets the city's requirements now or is it moving in the right direction can we stop talking about it I would say dick that that's going to be a standard comment that we make on every review uh this seems to be coming up when it comes in for site plan review so it was more I put it in there I don't know if it meets or not and if it's meet and scrutiny by the solid waste but I do know that it's been coming up and I just wanted to make the applicant aware that it's going to be scrutinized by our Solid Waste Department so you'll probably see it on future reports also is this a standard comment thanks and my other side questions for Jay um was 640 students living in the building there's going to be a lot of calls to Amazon and doordash and various retail and food delivery businesses and this is a hard site for that because the the most active Street William um is shut off from people pulling over to the side on the north side of the street due to the curbed bike Lanes the service alley doesn't I don't see any accommodation for deliveries within the service alley and there's no room on the east side so how do you plan to accommodate that and I should add to that we've had complaints about the other core building in Ann Arbor on Huron Street with just this very thing doordash and other delivery services parking and other people's property trying to make their deliveries foreign I'll just go ahead and take it so we have had um discussions um with the Downtown Development Authority about this they are willing to help us out with uh there's two parking spaces on the south side of William Street William Street right across the uh street from our property they're willing to help us have those be 15-minute spaces which would help with the Ubers and doordash deliveries um we were thinking a lot about that problem that's kind of a not so new anymore but it's something that nobody thinks about and it has a real effect when you have all those people ordering doordash and ordering Ubers and so I think getting those two spaces across the street to be 15-minute parking spaces would help that's something that the Downtown Development Authority has uh kind of lightly expressed as possible and something to be willing to help us out with another thing we're exploring and that I can't promise at all yet is uh trying to get these Transformers out of the way and actually connect to Library Lane um with a curb cut that would likely take an easement from the city which I'm not sure we can get in a timely manner but that's something we are exploring I think that might be uh kind of a best case scenario because then you could actually have uh your Ubers and doordash pull in we would provide uh some kind of increase on the side here and then they would just pull through the Library Lane but right now and what I want to present and the only thing I want to promise is what I'm showing here because I I don't know if I can get that curb cut onto Library Lane and I can't say that I can definitively which is why we have the plan B of getting those two parking spaces on the south side of William Street in in you know and obviously the way doordash and other companies work the driver just goes to the place that's most convenient and makes his Dash and so it has to be pretty intuitive for it to be used and for it to work and again we've had bad experience with your other project in Ann Arbor so I'd really urge you to keep working on that and get something more solid I hear you it is high up on the list of things we're working on right now just just for clarification it the route or most people coming in to the space when they're moving in um is generally is going to be off the Library Lane through the route where you go into the plaza or whatever you're calling it then through that um route that goes through the building sort of a z-shaped system to get to the elevators is that right that is one uh route that I would expect our property management team to make use of this is showing a little bit better the revisions of the plan we do have now kind of six spaces here which would be most of the time for employees of our property management staff but on move-in weekend that would be staging area for people moving in this entire whip would and so you could move in through here would probably be the easiest way which is basically through the loading dock and right into the elevator core within a secondary way it could be off of Library Lane down through The Pedestrian connector which is what I'd like to call it and then through that Corridor and down to the lobby so you know we have a couple weekends a year where we move in 640 people that is not an easy task and so I think having both of those um Alternatives uh helps us out a little bit as long as we're talking about that site plan how about bicycle parking because I assume that a lot of the folks will be coming to the building from the University uh with bicycles you got that right so they'll bring the bike in through that same path to get into that that storage huh that's correct okay and I really think Library Lane might have more to offer than than you've you've gotten to so far it it's a it's going to be a dedicated it is a dedicated East-West but under trafficked and um as opposed to William um I think there's more potential there to get some of the business done of the building and um I'd just encourage you to to Snoop in that direction more and continue to I I certainly agree if I had my preference I would I would really love for us to be able to connect the Library Lane via a curb cut that would make a lot of things easier and smoother um and and I totally agree with you uh Jake could you explain when you were looking at the elevations I'm switching to the exterior now you said you asked The Architects to take um one of the descriptors of the cementitious panels off so are you equating an ether system with a cementitious panel system or could you explain just what these systems are those are both generic terms I might need your help with this but uh the the point of the comment was that we had called out a specific brand name proprietary system on the drawing it's called a stove panel sto yeah right and so we didn't want to basically pigeonhole ourselves to a manufacturer and so Jay maybe you can talk through the actual detail of what that Panel System typically looks like yeah I believe that um that what we are are currently um considering at this point is a um is a um a fiber cement panel um that would be on a um that would be on uh over uh insulation um and and support it out from the building um similar to um to a uh to a dry design or or another panel we don't obviously that's not a specific we don't know exactly what system that that we'd want to use but but a um but probably a a durable fiber cement Panel System uh with uh with um Z channels that are that are over insulation attached to the outside of the exterior face um of the material um there the um again I think we're still investigating um the um the that that option versus um the other option of of doing a um an insulated exterior finish system um either an insulated exterior stucco system or or um or or an efis system so you are keeping the door open for an EFA system um at this point although I think the the design team's intent is to is to try and explore a um a fire panel system we've got to work through some of the details of the of the um the strategy for lead gold um and how that relates to exterior skin and some of that will relate to the energy model as well as our uh our um our mechanical systems design I think it's going to be hard to get the level of detail that we're showing and this with you know these little line expressions with an epit system it's going to be hard to get those edges I I don't anticipate that we will use that maybe if we had if it somehow turned out cheaper to just do the in the panels with eat this which I doubt maybe but yeah I I think that's going to end up being a cementitious panel and not eat this yeah that's what we'd like to do there thank you any other comments from board members oh John has stand up uh yeah thank you um I love the building and um I think it's a well-defined uh Podium it uh softens the mass I think well you're putting a big building um right downtown and uh it's being built as Wendy uh uh uh articulated next to a historic district it's going to be a challenge uh I I agree with Richard uh that um and others that you might want to consider more use of Library Lane it seems to me I I use Library Lane a lot I I use William a lot too um and particularly I I think if there's some way to uh to get your you know deliveries um um I don't know but I think it has a lot of potential and um I would encourage you to uh to use it I think the facade is exceptional um I I think the the design Works um and uh you've mixed uh um uh glass and and and hard surface extremely well I think and and and the the grid system isn't uh obvious it just it it fits it works uh I I really like the entrance and I like the town homes on uh on that East Side uh that and and kind of uh facing it with that historic district and and and having that that that walk through Plaza um I think it it'll be a great place to live um I have um uh a couple of questions um I'm the the member that uh is also on the public art commission so I asked this of all the developers uh have you considered public art uh for this project and um um where and and what sort uh Andy or we are not considered public art but to be clear um we're happy to coordinate perhaps at the library or with you know any other kind of public artist that everybody can agree on to kind of integrate public art into the project I think that makes for a better project and we wanted to get a little bit further down the line uh before identifying a place for where that could go a couple ideas though um we have a a blank wall back here that could be great for a mural uh it's a big blank wall and it needs something there's also smaller kind of opportunities we've just slapped our logo on a few different kind of blank walls around the bottom but those could easily be mural walls that could be worked out um you know with uh with the public to to you know be some kind of public art installation um and then also we do have some space out front it would have to be small if you actually look at the uh kind of the current um layout we have a small setback maybe there's something that could go you know up against this wall or something like that but that's really kind of close to the entrance and I think that if you want something that's going to be visible from people just walking by I think that the murals could be a great thing and that's something we'd be we'd be happy to do and actually prefer to do I think that that sounds great and uh the public art commission would be more than happy to work with you and we've developed some best practices and um that and you might want to think uh not just painted murals but a mosaic I think Richard has an excellent example of how a mural would be on a wall on the fourth and Washington parking structure and if if you are going to to have a Graphic uh maybe a high pressure laminate which would would really be um it'd be it'd be a nice sort of effect um so I I applaud that and uh if when you get further in the design um just uh let the art commission know and would be happy to sort of help you think through how to approach it uh additionally you're going to have a small Lobby and and you said there might be a small place uh there um I would uh you might want to think about uh kind of a rotating uh Art Gallery may maybe only one or two small pieces but that would rotate through there every few months or so uh and um uh so those are two options and I'm I'm glad that you're open uh to uh to considering that uh the the other thing that um that I wanted to ask you about I know that the staff has recommended solar and um uh I just think that the the the the the the city is is um wants to leverage as much as they can for getting renewable energy into a building so uh I would um I would agree with the with the um with staff for solar and you know it it doesn't just have to be on roofs so um I you know you're going to be up high and I don't know whether you could incorporate uh photovoltaican in a in a in a in a sort of a side wall but uh you know you and you can make it creative so it could be kind of looking like sort of an art piece but um I I would encourage you to explore those uh the those areas and and finally um that um are you going to put natural gas in um in in in the building and I'm sure you're probably aware of it the the Ann Arbor energy commission has come out strong uh asking the city council to um to not allow any natural gas you know in buildings and and uh sort of leveraging heat pumps and things like that so uh have you gotten to that point of thinking um heating through and and and how you might approach uh that issue uh we have and so we are very in tune with that conversation and so right now we are uh we are assuming a fully electric building um so we're assuming that that will go through and we are poised to deal with that um and so this would be probably a vrf variable refrigerant flow system um that would be all electric um and that's what we have in our kind of preliminary cost estimates right now so we are very aware that we are are ready and willing to comply if that's the way that it goes and then as far as the solar panel uh question goes um we are kind of sizing our mechanical systems right now and and it's a little too early to start uh you know figuring out where we could put solar panels but once we have um those mechanical system size we'll know where exactly we can put solar panels and how many we can do but it's probably going to be on top of this this roof uh is is uh you know kind of a an easy place to put them to the extent we have some extra room left over uh after sizing our mechanical systems uh and then we also do Envision um you know making use of of green roofs as well to to basically um hold some of our storm water and that that helps us with sizing our underground attention so Andrew if I could um so this is a lead gold you said that's one of the premiums yes ma'am so so what had you envisioned then to lead to lead to lead gold we don't know exactly they're in the scorecard and it is uh it's done later on in design where you have to you know use a certain amount of recycled materials and there's a lot of other kind of things we haven't preliminarily filled that out preliminarily filled that out yet but we we are you know we have gone lead gold in other projects we're carrying uh a little bit extra in our budget because we know we're gonna have to go for those premium systems that use less energy maybe a little bit more expensive to to be able to get there but I can't tell you exactly how yet because we haven't done our scorecard yet that's something we would do um once we get design development drawings started which would be after we have a site plan approval uh could we back go back just one question on uh regarding the parking situation you said that the DDA was you're toying with the idea of giving you 15-minute spaces across the street which would mean that all those folks making the temporary deliveries would be Crossing mid block no matter how many times you tell them to go up the corner they'll be Crossing mid block it aren't there some aren't there parking spaces along Library Lane could you get a couple of those spaces instead of right on William those are the spaces we actually asked them for and they were less confident that they could get those although I agree with you that makes way more sense and so we you know we will continue this exploration of how how we can leverage Library Lane both with the curb cut and with some temporary use of those parking spaces that's likely going to uh involve an easement with the city um but it's something I'm happy to explore because I think it makes the project better and I agree with you that is a much better place than across William I think it's going to be dangerous with all the running back and forth but I'm not telling you anything you haven't already thought about but thank you if we could talk about the exterior for a minute more I am following up on some of John's comments I I always View the the entire building as an opportunity for artistic expression and it's really a drab building in uh climate where we can experience four to six weeks of No Sunshine um at a time in the winter and I I think there's I'd encourage you to pursue opportunities to inject color um even though we don't get Sunshine we do get daylight of course every day and so the textural differences in order to get the shadow that adds visual interest need to be pronounced they they subtle textural differences work in a Southern Climate where there's more Sunshine but they don't work as well here and the building reads really flat in in a gray building in a gray climate just um is a missed opportunity I think so I didn't encourage you I know you can do it you've got lots of great examples of terrific design but I'd encourage you to push that a little more go for more color and go for more textural differences maybe just the setback of material changes can be increased from two inches to four inches to create a shadow would help absolutely hear you and we'll work on that because I do agree any other comments from the board okay if not um we can open it up to public comment let me find um man I'm sure if I could do minus staff repeat back to you what we heard from the board to ensure that we have your comments sure summarized correctly and if I could ask our guests to stop sharing screen so that we can see one another be appreciated and I'm going to turn it over to uh planner Chris Chang okay I took some just these are just general notes we'll have more specific notes but what I've heard at least I'll I'll kind of summarize everybody's the comments that they generally like materials the breakdown of the floors and the the variation of the windows um also issues regarding you know how uh pickup and delivery are going to be made Solid Waste how it's going to make sure that it meets at the site plan stage um definitely want to explore more access to Library Lane that seemed to be a a general consensus possibly retaining walls or a fence on the West Side possibly even on the east side to screen from from the historic neighborhood uh same thing we need to list it on the East side that is a historic district seems like we like you liked the townhouse is facing the historic district so we will uh you know be a little more expansive on that um again yep just looking at it other comments regarding the service alley and I will drop offs pick-offs be made um try to move the Transformers if possible I think that was more from the from the petitioner asking about trying to move that uh Transformers to get that curb cut onto a Library Lane um we did go over the bicycle storage and the path into the building and let's see oh the exterior we'll have to look into that more it sounds like just to make sure what type of material doesn't sound like ephus was something that was going to be looked upon favorably uh public art from katarski um they would like to see they'd be all about for murals uh I would add on top of that anything with the with the murals is fine but don't put anything type that's going to advertise your business or something that's going to be counted towards a sign we wouldn't count that as public art that's just an aside you could also use mosaics um uh Explore More of the leave gold premium uh how is this going to be achieved that's going to need to be complied with for the for the premiums uh let's see yep 15 minutes oh mid-block Crossings I think we just finished that up with the 15-minute spaces for delivery again another General theme let's connect or at least have spaces along Library Lane um and then finally just add some color to the building uh since we're in a gray climate with a great building did I kind of capture it or is there something else I was missing thank you I had a comment too about textural differences in materials all right well with that um I think that ends that part of the agenda were there any in public um comments or questions there are no current hands raised still no hands raised I don't think you have any commenters today okay great thank you um on to unfinished business anything anyone wants to raise this unfinished business no Communications nope I'll uh one more chance at public comment generally without that if anybody wants to move to adjourn Tamara moves to adjourn with that hand thank you support okay all in favor of adjournment of this session of Ann Arbor's design review board I awake and uh and an eye all at the same time thank you everybody thanks Lori thank you everyone
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I will sadly make the motion I will sadly make the second Mr Hopkins aye Mr kurzen which is I miss Olson aye Miss Rodriguez it is approved 4-0 Mr Hopkins may I make a statement yes sir starting to bolts thank you very much your two years here have been fantastic not only did you excel at being principal while also filling in a substitute for many many hours a day so you've got that taken care of and you more than took care of your administrative responsibilities and I think our school's in a lot better position because of that you help with the transition from one superintendent to the next and that is greatly appreciated also and thank you very much thank you I believe there was a time last year when it was more than substituting it was pretty much full-time teaching and full-time principles definitely very good we'll still we'll still let you come back and announcement yeah okay so the next item of business is the administrative non-renewal for business manager Laura Smith Mr Hopkins members of the board Laura Smith business manager has fulfilled your one-year obligation to all schools and contract is not being renewed her last day of work was March 30th 2023 I recommend the approval of the non-reneurial renewal of Laura Smith effective March 30th 2023.
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there's another fiscal cliff we've tried to use the essers dollars for one-time expenditures and not operational expenses so it's not as big a fiscal cliff but again it is a cliff that that comes up that we're going to have to address so we tend to be aggressive yet conservative at the same time and I'll try to show you what we're doing with that so prior to the state budget so the state has not approved their budget this is information that we know coming from the state based on statute and what the legislature must do if the legislature gives us additional dollars and although I'm hearing the governor and Leadership down there are starting to have some meetings about the budget they're still a belief that we may not get a full state budget until sometime in June so therefore we would come back in July and let's just say they decided to give additional money to teachers well then you'd come back with an agenda item after the state budget and say this is how we're going to spend the money they told us to spend so this is conservative because these are the factors that we know with the Budget prior to the state being moving forward we don't believe it's going to be anything less than this but if there's more we'll come back to you so we will build it on zero percent growth for this year so this year we lost 200 kids so that 4076.817580 am reflects the 200 kid loss that's about a million dollars that's factored into the equation we'll look to maintain a contingency of at least a million dollars we're building the budget on the same FTE as this year prior to decision making so you may have less ft when everything's said and done but for right now when we start to build the budget we're saying it's the same ft's this year there may be some recommendations to just FTE in the right when we get the recommendation and the creativity of just trying to maximize our funds so for basic numbers we believe this number is a little lower than I initially anticipated but the two percent inflation the two percent inflation is guaranteed under State Statute there was the lawsuit that was fought years ago that was settled which guarantees that they're going to give us the two percent the the legislature lost that lawsuit because they weren't funding it two percent so they're not going to get in a fight with us and not fund it two percent I don't believe which is why we choose that but you look at the RCL for the new board members that's the revenue control limit so what's projected for 23-24 what do we get right now what's different so it's a positive three hundred thousand dollars health insurance premium decrease we'll talk a little bit more about that on down the road but that gives us a savings of 164 000 because it came in less than what we were paying before if we reduce some staff I'll get into that more detail and a little bit we would see a savings of 540 000 a 10 I'm calling a cut to daa what will probably happen is it's more of an additional contingency line item or some things that we're not going to spend um gives us 250 000 so we're starting the process what we believe is a working budget of 1.254 million dollars that means there's an additional million out there for contingency okay so we'll get right into the nuts and bolts we recommend a four percent increase to certified staff so when you take a look at the salary schedules when you get to the agenda item in the agenda they reflect that four percent increase okay of that four percent 2.5 will come from m o and 1.5 will come from the classroom site fund classroom site fund is a fund that we're only allowed to give to certified staff uh right now the way they calculated is called base support level so that's basically how much money they give you for every kid you have it was 733 dollars this past year we thought it was going to go up to 760.
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where you are so you feel like this is going to have an impact uh with the prevention initiative that we're all trying to kind of push as an addictionologist I have it's dichotomy for me I'm going into a completely opposite direction um to explain that one I I I'm not convinced that marijuana is a gateway drug I far forward too many of those 70s and that are not into any substances um and so on one hand no I'm not buying it you know there are plenty of people that have no experience with marijuana limited and are doing all the horrible stuff the other side to the coin however is is that we are seeing I don't want to say an increased prevalence but increased recognition of mental illness in young kids and we see this in adults 80 of substance abusers have some form of mental illness dual diagnosis not recognized not treated you have a lot of what I have actually call pill Mills where all they're doing is treating their mental illness with Street opioids fentanyl whatever and then they convert to a legal opioid methadone or Suboxone and that's how they're treating their anxiety depression bipolar schizophrenia PTSD the point I want to make is that if we do not recognize that these children have some form of mental illness be it ADHD being something along those lines depression anxiety whatever and it is not recognized and treat it that they are going to self-treat and marijuana is and will be an easy access you know like gummies Edibles uh smoke a joint I'm feeling better my anxiety is better my depression is better so again it's kind of a dichotomy I I don't want to see it and yet what else is there you know we as medical professionals are not generally doing the job that we need to do and that's why there's so much of this addiction crisis because we're not doing it eighty percent of substance abuse or subtle diagnosis you don't treat it they treat it themselves the same goes for children and so I think it's incumbent upon us to look for what are these kids need what can we do because again experimentation they're going to try it the key is to solve the problem so that when they try it they're not solving the problem themselves I do think that the legalization um will make it a lot easier for adolescents to access it because once it starts being sold here in Indiana it means that Vapes are already easy to buy online you know uh but I think if there are dispensaries here in Indiana but it is going to make it easier for the warm here um and so yeah what I would hope too is that I think right now we're kind of in a desert of resources for things for teens for marijuana and I'm sure you know that trying to find them for your school um and I think some of that is because it's illegal so in my silver lining I guess I'm thinking of that that I would hope that while I understand it might increase the access to individuals who are not legal to buy things like that that it actually would help us with some of the evidence-based prevention that we're missing in our community can I ask the officer a question and what a person um what ages are you see are you you know right now it's decriminalized and you guys by virtue of you know are not popping them unless they have large amounts what are you seeing in the Adolescent are you seeing a lot of small amount marijuana in the Adolescent okay so to give you kind of an overview of who I am and where I come from I spent 31 years as an Indianapolis metropolitan police officer 28 of those I spent on the street as a regular Road officer I was very very much one of the first ones to go through the program of learning how to deal with mental health issues uh and and was part of the initiation of that I was actually a trainer at that time so it was very important for for all of us to have the the basics of understanding how to deal with the compulsive behaviors and the mental health issues that may go along with a lot of that so bringing all that in I spent my last three years as before I retired as a prescription fraud Detective so that kind of broadened my view a little bit more on the abuse patterns as it pertains to the opioids and you know I'm bringing in my street side because I worked at the areas that I worked with very much predominantly predominant with uh cocaine use heroin use prostitution so I get to see all the all the levels on a daily basis on dealing with with uh with those that were on substance abuse the liquor stores that open up at seven o'clock in the morning you know all those attitudes now in that saying I've retired in 2020 came to the schools full time prior to that I was working as a part-time officer for the district so I've been around for a very long time most of the people in the district have seen me at many many different events in Vegas so with all that being said what I'm seeing now is an officer that's in the building on a full-time basis and I'm a I'm kind of a fly on the wall I'm very observant I stay back I don't poke up my nose in a lot of things but I like to listen to what's being said by the two by the young people I'm seeing I hear a lot from my middle school people and Mr Lynch that that we're having that it's becoming a very much a problem that is a it's every day it's every period uh it's bad you have to go guard the bathrooms too to to to have the prevention to keep these kids from getting into the veins and we're seeing most of the Vapes and it'd probably be in my measurement a two to one for every one nicotine Vape I pick up I'm gonna get to and what I'm hearing today as I've been going through and listening to a lot of things is we're starting to see that increase in the elementary level uh Upper Elementary so be the metric fifth and sixth graders and they're getting this stuff from their their own their own siblings covid really was very bad for for our school-aged children because they had this time at home where they were where there was not a lot of supervision and they found victims they found that this was a way to ease anxieties or in their minds anxieties and there wasn't a lot of information that was put out available about the the the seriousness of what they were taking into their bodies you know a lot of us in here can go back to the old smoking days you know and and talk about yeah we saw them in the magazines and the commercials on TV uh you know and we understand that process of how we came from the the tobacco Banks I mean this vaping issue is is really ramped itself up to a higher speed than we ever saw with tobacco and it is really really hitting our younger generations and we're seeing it so much now it affects every I mean every process of moving through the school I in fact today with Tasha dealing with two young men who are in one of our our last programs for uh before being sent home on home access only because you know they burn every every bridge that they had at the school level and it was all over vape pens and one of them you know hands it off to another kid so I've got to spend time trying to figure out who that person is another boy prior to that I we took two pennies last week on a random search that uh you know because we'll do that periodically and it's not unusual to pull five six seven weed pins The Capes off of them on a regular basis depending we've got a group that we know now that's that's uh within our Latino community that are selling those States and it's it's trying to just stay ahead of trying to keep a finger on the pulse of what's going on so I mean it to me this has taken over at a much greater rate than I've ever seen anything else I used used to be a little bit of marijuana here and there I'm not seeing it if I'm doing random searches it's always going to be a big thing it's always gives me a big thing very rarely if I pick up anything else than any more on a random search so it to me the the pins have really become a major issue within the school and just to add in to kind of back down to to get the parents off the panic button or whatever so so research-wise research is about of 12th graders about [Music] um but we're trying to keep up for not having so we're focusing on the 30 yeah so when you're talking about you know you found this in on this kid they were 70 kids you didn't find [Music] realize that most of the time in in my aspect of this school and the administrator we're dealing with a 10 group right honestly we're dealing with the 10 group who are creating a very much majority of the problems am I seeing it with some of the Elder the some of the better kids the ones you don't usually have problems with not as often but they're they're there and you know you're going to have those and and the biggest thing is just you know me having graduated two three kids from the schools and I have grandkids that are one in high school and one in middle school I get to listen to to their conversations and and it's interesting to hear the that whole change from when my children were students in the 2000s to their students in the 2020s and then thinking back when I was a student in the 1970s it is quite quite the difference and I I I know that as parents it's hard to to say you know I I know my children and I thought I knew mine I'm telling you they threw curveballs to me as I got to talk to them as adults I was like where in the world did that come from you know and so uh I mean they they will experiment they will do I mean better as young people ourselves growing up we did our things too I mean we we just can't say our children are going to be perfect we'd like them to be we just can't say that thing and we just got to hope that uh having conversation and that to me that's the biggest thing my years on the streets uh I'm dealing with people on a one-to-one basis in their houses and dealing with their their issues and it's communication is so huge uh there's that lack of communication really becomes that problem and that's when they start searching for those other things so always if I if I was to say one thing is always have that open Communication channel with your children don't be afraid to talk about what what you did as a student it's a young person because they need to hear your mistakes you know and how to how you push past things [Music] are you guys finding similar concerns or trends um [Music] what are you what are you are you guys [Music] like what are you guys seeing as well yeah I think it's hard um to say like oh yeah some kids you I think um tobacco and THC is definitely an equal opportunity um addiction so I don't you know devices they don't know your race your gender your sexuality your GPA you think your income like you know what sports you play I think it's just like if a kid sees it if a kid has a friend who uses it and they convince them to do it they're most likely going to do it unless they've been properly educated to say no the correct way like some of the other school districts that we know that Orange Township isn't the only one that's seeing like similar things we know that um schools across the county are trying to figure out how to address um the situation and I think it just it always kind of comes back to like the misconceptions around the products the easy access they had to it and the level of nicotine that they're taking into her body it is a it's a serious issue that is going to have to be solved by a community like you know we know that this would be the only we can't be the only spot right there's got to be other like intervention and resources and families need to be educated and all of these things because even like we're saying with you know we want parents to be good um role models for them but we run into all kinds of adults that feel the same way that feel that it's like not as bad or maybe they're trying to quit cigarettes and they think vaping is a better option so there is it is going to be a community-wide like way and resource and whatever is going to take to solve the problem because our kids aren't addicted now I don't know how else to say that they are severely addicted if they can't go 10 minutes you know I know some of them are like you know try to be funny in class when they're they're kids and they're trying to push buttons but if they can't go 10 minutes in a classroom without leaving knowing that they're going to risk being caught and those things like those are signs of addiction and we have to have ways and structure is set in place where it's not just get out give me the device or you know whatever the punitive measure that we most of the time have set in place like we're we're going to have to find ways to kind of show I think schools um some schools don't do a proper job of punitive measures like you said a lot of schools do out of school suspension but if you give a kid a chance to go home they might have another device even if you take their first device away that they get caught using at school they could have many other devices or siblings who have these devices they have so much more access being out of schools has been I've been being in school getting a program to them you know we can't just make them quit cold turkey we have to meet them where they are we can't just this you can't do this this is bad this is battery health here's why we have to we have to give them more than just you can't do it yeah and just like it's like for going out to schools too we see that a lot we have schools that want want um education like want us to come out and talk to assemblies and like do all these things which is good but uh it comes down to it's just not really evidence-based practice in the first place to get kids to listen they don't know me from Joe schmel they're not listening to the teachers in the first place so while we have I think really good educational resources like we need peer support like Brenna like in her schools like we need things that are open conversations with our kids like small classrooms where we can really have those open and honest conversations about like why they're doing it so that they can help build their own future I think especially when talking about middle school and high schoolers you know they're trying to find their own way their own autonomy in the world and people are telling them what to do and their brain isn't fully there yet you know they're not 25 and all the synapses haven't connected quite yet um so having like opportunities to have those conversations let them build their own decision making too and one of the things that we have started to do we've always done that um we can't always talk about like I've said like about the health effects all the time because we don't have a lot of research about long-term health effects but it's one of the reasons why we like to talk to youth about big tobacco marketing and the way that they're like being targeted on purpose and in different um cultural groups too we know that big tobacco targets like black and brown neighborhoods they inundate those gas stations and places of sale with information we know that they're using you know flavors and things like that so we use so trying to kind of point out so that they can hopefully have some of that life context maybe try to make a better decision for them you guys kind of touched on this the next question is kind of what are some proactive strategies or other programs um you guys can you know kind of a Down the Line um limited organization guys offered um you know I I yeah I'm big on communication as my my staff will ruthfully shake their heads and go oh my gosh yes he is um you know I think the key is and we do this with our adult substance users to say what's your goal yes I know you're 13 you're 14.
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so we're sort of right at the very beginning of that it this current eight year cycle but hcd said that over the next eight years Southern California area Association of governments you need to allow for 1.3 million units to be developed and so then um that 1.3 number is for the entire Southern California area and so I have also broken it down in terms of the specific jurisdictions that the properties that we're studying are located within and so as you can see this um of the 1.3 um million units at the city of Azusa was allocated 2651 units the city of Glendora was allocated 2276 units and unincorporated Los Angeles County was allocated 90 052 units and essentially when you see those numbers what that means is that these jurisdictions are mandated by state law to allow for this many housing units to be built now a caveat to this is that the jurisdiction is able to check off their box and say we met our goals and we met our mandate by allowing it um the local jurisdiction cannot force you as a private property owner to develop your property they can't force you to do that however in order to meet state law they have to allow for development so if you want it to develop they have to allow for it and they have to provide the appropriate zoning to allow you to build set housing so I'll pause here because that's um a lot of information any questions just in regards to Rina how it works um the process anything like that I just have a quick question of course those are the allotments until 2029 do you know how many units have been built or are currently being built so good question so um that the the that yes this is the allotment from October 21 to October 29th and essentially it's a variety the count is made up from a variety of different options or different ways um it could be one properties that are currently in the development pipeline that are underway it could be properties that are have submitted applications um where they're they haven't been approved yet but they're in the application process or it could be properties where they're just completely vacant the owner hasn't made any decisions yet and um they're just allowing for it so because of that there's um there's not a current count right now however in talking with the jurisdictions um they're at the beginning of the eight year cycle and so everyone is pushing um to make sure that by the end of this current cycle they can say that they met their numbers follow up that we've had a number of projects completed thing those aren't interesting yeah that doesn't reduce the 2651 acquired no it does so so any so the cycle is from starting October 2021.
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correct right okay are you still employed with the deal it says currently a chance for the Honolulu no sorry I'm not I've been retired for almost two years I do some work with them I Mentor new principles and uh a little bit of work with our Alternative Learning programs okay so you retired to win June 2021 [Music] thank you for that and members questions thank you before before serving and your willingness to continue to serve you talked about housing and I think we all agree that housing is certainly a concern and um can be a obstacle for people or teachers but the amount of housing that we need just mentioning [Music] do you think that we have a state has a resources and the funding to be able to provide housing for all of the areas of the state that lacks teacher housing want to know if you have the funding to reach out to all the locations but I think there needs to be so it would be nice if there is consideration from for those remote locations that are more isolated that they don't have the option to drive um two hours for housing like to get to Haiku or or Central Maui or Lanai they're just simply nothing available if you don't you've got to live there if you're going to teach you can't take the ferry in every day um so no the answer is probably not we need to do something and and find ways and different methods to to increase the housing so we can recruit and retain the teachers I mean right now we we're losing teachers right so is that is this something that the sfas should be taking the lead on and that's something that you'll be looking into I think we work collaboratively I don't know about taking the league but I think that's part of what we can do yes well what things have you been undertaking during the time that you've already been serving with SFA so we just had a meeting recently with a department of land natural resources about um working on getting some land so we could build teacher houses on campus or right off campus at Hana school and we started looking into this this is before retire we had a partnership I don't know if that partnership is still there but to build those houses we've we've had good Partnerships in LA in Hana um also been a part of trying to increase the number of classroom facilities and spaces for preschool kids to attend and get started and what what's your goal at the end of your term other than trying to find housing well I think the big one is increasing the number of classrooms and spaces of facilities for Quality preschool for three and four year olds I think that's so that's a priority you know I I support providing preschools early kindergarten but the costs for that is huge and already education takes up a huge portion of our budget and um it's mandatory that we provide Public public education from 1 1 through 12 but it's usually K-12 to add on three years four-year-olds I think is is something but where do you think that we're going to be able to get the funding to do that that will sustain us providing that kind of three-year-old four-year-old preschools across the board why I mean that's a hard question you're asking me as an individual um sitting on a board if if if if the board is going to have that authority to um find financial resources and funding um I guess and that would have to be up to us to figure out how to do that but I I don't know that that's really art as a board or a responsibility to find all the funds to uh get every child in preschool preschool age to get into school I understand I'm not asking you the responsibility to get the funds but I think it's everybody's concern as to how do we fund all of these Services because the money gotta come from something I agree right I mean and so the question becomes where does it come from and in most cases I I imagine it's got to come from K-12 because you're going to take it from Universe away I'm going to take it from the seniors and you're going to take it from Human Services are you going to take it for you know so it's got to come from somebody which it looks like it's going to come from K-12 and I think the public needs to understand while it's so meritorious that we we want to do all of that at some point something has to give and uh if parents are aware and people are aware that it's going to come from K-12 and that they might not get some of the services that they have now or that will sustain us because if we go forward and times get bad and we're going to try to cut off some of the services that people feel entitled to because once you give something you cannot take it away and so I'm just like getting trying to get people to understand that these are all good services that we striving to do but at some point how do we sustain this and where would that funding come and if the funding comes from K-12 if that's the area that's going to have to cut back is that what people really want and I just think that these are things that we should be thinking about yeah I don't know if I have that exact answer if that's what people want I don't know if if we need to scale back then obviously uh we would look at what needs to be looked at do we bring in three-year-olds did we just stay with four-year-olds and the five-year-olds but when you you know what prompted me to ask you this because that's what it goes for the future you said you know providing the facilities and classrooms for three and four years and we provide the classrooms but it's not just the classrooms are we going to be able to get teachers I agree the funding to get you know Health nurses because it's no longer just a teacher in a classroom there's so much more of that parents want schools to provide unlike before in the past now they have to be nurses School aides they have to do medication there's so many things that teachers are required to do and so I have come to the conclusion that it's not just teacher housing or care it's like my team my sister's a teacher on the mainland it's like all the things that they have to do is also part of and I don't think that conversation takes place it's part of why it's very difficult to get teachers yeah 100 yeah I I agree with you and I I know that firsthand it's hard to get teachers because I went out personally recruited teachers and we still have um a large gap in certified teachers in our classrooms and the same thing is true yes we can possibly have facilities ready for preschool kids but we still have to have teacher and an educational assistant in those classrooms as well yeah and then we have to deal with it and those are the unintended consequences that we don't often times look into the office but thank you thank you for the questions sure [Music] thank you chair um you've been involved in the system here in the state for quite some time and being a cast that also brings a perspective from and then serving on the school facility Authority from your perspective of working with teachers the system the facilities give me the top two or top three priorities coming from the facilities perspective that what you think you could contribute to move the needle for the whole educational process well I think the board of being a part of the board um trying to move the needle I think the priorities that I my understanding is when I joined the board was one preschool getting preschools up and running um having the facilities ready for preschools and teacher housing so the two things that I've been introduced to and have been working on and being a part of meetings and they have those collaborative conversations and how to improve those things and neither one or easy so but that's been our task for the task that I've been shared since my time on that board okay and I get it from the time on the board but from when you were actually within the system do you agree with those priorities I do I think our we need exposure our kids need exposure to education um and some of our families as you know are disadvantaged and those are kids we really need to reach out to and make sure that we get those kids and touch points with kids so they can come to a preschool and have adequate facilities to be taught in um honestly in the areas that I taught or taught it excuse me that I oversaw some of those facilities are have been pretty neglected um but again I'm not sure if that's the school facility's Authority and to work with the Department of Education and getting some of those facilities upgraded um I think you'd be surprised some of the things you saw at some of our campuses as far as um how old they are and how neglected they've been but that's a that's a whole nother subject I think okay and teach your attention talked about housing um when you were a Cavs what do you think would have been the best thing you could do for Teacher retention because I know we get them and then we lose them pretty quickly from that sitting in that chair what would have been the best thing you could have done for Teacher retention so some of the things that we did do that helped our teacher retention um was having a program that was cultural based that gave them a sense of place where they're teaching so they understood where their students and their families came from um and that that definitely helped us the other thing that helped us is that we literally went out and recruited for our schools versus the state you know the state doesn't like a job they go out but we would go intentional places to recruit um we actually recruited to places like South Dakota why did go to South Dakota well a couple reasons one their pay was worse than ours but more importantly we went there because they understood remote rural Hunting Fishing those types of things and we had good success with that so um but doing the cultural piece was really important for us and so that helped us retain and we did it not just for the new teachers to retain a bit the teachers ever have been there as well again then from the facility standpoint housing is this is a recurrent theme comes up it's not just education it's across the state so um do you see like teacher cottages specifically dedicated him from Big Island and we have lands that belong to the school it's right there it could be available for developing do you see that as something because I'm thinking it's or federal money that may be able to tap in to get some of this done is that something I would think that would be impossible and I think it depends on different areas I mean again my experiences with Rural and remote locations and so our some of our schools were similar to what you're talking about again I'll go back to Hana because Hannah's got a lot of land on the um state land for the school and so there is property and land that we talked about putting teacher housing on um there is teacher housing on Lanai right next to campus but it's totally neglected um Hannah's got what they call the long house um it's only a 50 capacity because it's so neglected the roof leaks so bad that you can't house anybody there Molokai the same thing you've got some Cottages over there but they're neglected so it's not that we have to build new but it's like we have to maintain and take care of what we have to show the respect of the teachers that that should be living in there and unfortunately when we when we treat teachers like that you know that it's still not a priority why stay yeah okay and I appreciate what you're saying because I have koala because yeah um and so we have regions that are similar so I appreciate that thank you chair thank you you brought up a really good point about the school facilities deteriorating our you know we both graduated from Farrington High School and some of those buildings are falling apart we we went there and they weren't in that good condition and they're still there um but that brings up another point because it's like okay what do I pre-prioritize so I would be interested in hearing your priorities as far as fix the current school facilities for your current students build new facilities for preschool Early Education do student teacher housing do teacher housing or in repair what we have so how would your priorities what's your priorities be if we had to pick you know I put in an order we'll need to clarify it I don't know if we need to build new facilities for all the preschools there's things that can probably be recaptured some of those for the first elections yes yes but I'm just saying because there's only so much funding right I mean so and I always feel that we need to take care of our foundation before we start going up because then we let the foundation go so yeah so there's a process with the doe about prioritizing and that rests with the principals and and the facilities people so they make those decisions but but unfortunately sometimes because it takes so long to get that list and the tank the things on that list that you know a year from now something else pops up and that that takes its place and so I think those those things have to be in conversations not just by Lindsey Ball but others about what those priorities are and how we attack those priorities uh do you know that the doe has over a billion dollars worth of CIP that has been on the books for years I I do and then there's another billion that's ready to to lapse because they haven't encumbered it I mean so you know we talk about the funding and and the priorities again it makes you wonder the money is there they've encumbered it but they've not five six years the Project's not completed I mean what do we do how do we I mean it's not necessarily New York but that's all of our problem right yes as going forward the other area is that we put in and you're going to see with this year's budget we've got you know millions of dollars going into CIP but do we see any money for the upkeep and repairing maintenance you know we build these facilities and we don't put in building monies for repairing maintenance and so now there's a backlog of repair and maintenance as these buildings age there's no funding for it and I and I yes I do understand that that but that's a loaded question yes answer in front of all these people so well I think part of it is you know making people aware because everybody seems to be a very narrow Vision or inside of those things we just need more housing oh we just need more early Ed we take pictures because some something suffers right right there's got to be priorities and then when you find out there's billion dollars on the books that the buildings and the things are being taken care of then something's wrong with that picture and I don't know if we keep throwing more money we're going to give millions of dollars more for CIP to to education and they've got over a billion dollars that's sitting there and another billion that's gonna last and we're still gonna give them new money this year well I'm sure that SFA would love to get their hands it is separate but but they can also speak up and go to the Board of Ed and make these things happen so I just hope that's something that you guys and that is a good point Senator and I I just made a note to myself to to see um if there can be some conversation between us if they and the Board of Education and possibly doe it's at some point to try and see if we can uh take some of the CIP you know um I think that would be a great idea to give it back to our Wham budget and then you know redo it again or something I mean we know it's there we know some of the housing needs on the neighbor Islands but right now that has not been the focus and this is uh you know under sfa's Authority as to where we are going to put those uh classrooms or buildings or teacher housing and while we have a few on this island of schools that you know would not mind having the housing there on their campus because they have the the land to do it it's it's still something that needs to be looked at for um plan for all of the state of Hawaii and yes it does take up between 22 and 25 of the state's budget to operate the daily schools and unlike the mainland schools we are proud of the only state in the Union that the counties do not support us in any way which makes it even more difficult for us to budget for the things that we need for our daily schools I do have testimony from the Department of Education in support of this harmony is someone here from the Department thank you um Alan did you want to testify yet within testimony only to correct my error in his previous responsibility but it doesn't detract with this small applications it was primarily in Molly parts of Maui County thank you and also written support from Harold Edwards foreign is there anyone else here wishing to testify for this nominee I will call on you but I'm going to tell you again please register you come here every meeting and you never register on Angela you're and you're here all day long so you could easily walk into the office Aloha chair Vice chair and the committee actually I registered for the next testimony but that I didn't know I was gonna that survive with this oh I heard that before just okay okay I'm holding you to one minute I would testify I won't send in the testimony right after um so um because of Mr Lindsay's testimony I um will show support for the nominee and um you know SFA is responsible for all public school development planning and construction related to Capital Improvement projects assigned by the legislature executive branch or the board and there was a recent measure about the Maui housing pilot program um to have appropriate infrastructure to develop the housing um and it looks like the measure was redrafted a few times because of the concerns about the administering of the pilot program because SFA does not have the statutory authority to administer um the housing program so um going forward I'd like to just point out that there could be some um work to do um so that the either there can be statutory requirements to authorize SFA as the entity to administer the pilot program or maybe some other logistical flexibility thank you for that this this GM is in support of Lindsey ball for SFA but thank you for your testimony um is there anyone else wishing to testify thank you next on the agenda we have HCR urging the Department of Education to prioritize funding for the English learner program and public schools to address the increasing population of English learning students and this was a uh to testify Department of Education please good afternoon chair Vice chair and committee members Yvonne Humboldt director of student services branch and testifying today on behalf of the Department of Education the department stands on this written testimony offering comments on this measure thank you members questions of questions thank you thank you put in support Lori yes actually I do have a question sorry so part of so part of this English learner students but this program is funded through weighted student formula all of it or some of it some of it the what what portion the the way to student formula is what helps them be able to purchase teachers it's a way to students want to pay someone for the teachers that's the bulk of it is used for yes the problem that we have is is that the weight and student formula does not allow for every school to be able to purchase a teacher based on the student population so part of our request was to try to increase the weighted Zoom formula this year so that every school could at least purchase a part-time teacher 0.5 FTE for their El students so that they can get the sheltered design instruction they need within their content area does every school need English learner teachers every school that has a yeast up to 10 students should have a teacher and even if the 10 we have schools that if they have 20 or less students they don't have enough money to purchase a teacher okay and if they don't have the qualified teacher or a teacher that can and a lot of schools will use part-time teachers to come in to help support the Els they miss that quality obstruction that they need to understand in their content areas every school or do you know now if every school has or needs an English language yes not every school has this teacher every school needs it yes if they have English students yes I know that's criteria but I'm wanting to know yes if all the schools have that yes need no yes [Music] in our department the schools um I don't have the number of actual schools that need that have English Learners um obviously a majority of our um so we will have to go back and get that exact number we pulled it up about a month ago just to know exactly where we were at but it fluctuates so I can get that and give it to you yeah about that yeah with students is it 20 is it 50 is it 100 because the one teacher is not going to be able to turn around correct so it would be interesting to know if we have the breakdown we can do it by teacher to student ratio we can do it by the school population also for El students did you have one teacher for that school you're not going to have kids coming from from their school no they have to be at their own schools we do have teachers that need travel between some of the smaller schools if the spaces or the travel time is close enough so we do have some complexes that have used one full-time teacher and they might split between three schools like North Shore so how many students our students students you need to have before a warrant a teacher on that campus so um the weighted student formula is based upon the proficiency level of the English learner um so those are the lower proficiency levels do receive a higher weight and amount in addition to the base um so depending upon your student proficiency levels um that could range so it could be from around 20 students to 30 students to to be able to fund I believe a half-time teacher is six that is that is the difficulty with the current weight of student formula and and how we fund our our teacher positions I'm not sure how you measure where they are as far as English Learners go but those that are really in need and understand their English at all and if you have two of those but another school has English Learners that can speak English but need help and how do you how do you you know determine that provide appropriate Services right correct so how are you said it's weighted differently it is weighted differently right um so if you're interested the weight does not happen after enrollment the latest student formula isn't that correct I don't know when they do it but I would have to randomly want to answer um so the way to tune formula it's something that's determined every other year by the committee on weights so they are going to be meeting again this this actually starting May to start this is part of my language yeah crappy way to do it because the next year you could have 25 English language Learners in the year before you went ahead two yeah yeah it is I can see where uh yeah the way it's done is probably not appropriate for the needs it can and what the one thing too though all teachers are well the El teacher when I was a teacher at Stevenson one of the things is we were required to have um training uh English language training as well so although we're not an expert you are required at a certain base level to have the skill set to help those students are part of your classroom so your our teachers aren't without any sort of understanding but it is um you do want to have that professional there who has um the ability to look at those um they call them the Widow spores so you can see their different levels and really provide the right supports there so when we're not leaving students out to dry in that sense but you're right having that professional will be so what committee education would handle this issue and the Board of Education um that would actually be that determination right right yeah to the board to determine which you're asking which group on the board to determine that which committee yeah I would I would say it's probably the student um uh SRC the student gosh I'm just having a brain fart the student uh it's the sack a student achievement committee and how often do they meet as often as determined by the the sitting chair of that Community they can have um when do they meet last push the board is here I don't know I can't remember the next independent meeting yeah well my staff is writing the questions down here and we'll send it to the board because I think it's probably been a while thank you thank you further questions yes wow so submitted such testimony some Civic support on this resolution I'm sorry your testimonies so it says here be a result uh that the Department of Education is requested to prioritize funding for the Greenwood English learner program and public schools so how would you do that so we've actually put in for divine request in three areas that supports our English Learners and the three areas that we're looking at that's needed is one is the way to student formula so that schools can provide a teacher and that a teacher can work with um in the sheltered content area for the English Learners to increase their ability to understand to understand the academic context but if there's no change and the budget is already doing that so you need a resolution to grow your power I mean we need the money is what we need right in order to move it forward and in the areas we have is so we try to we we reached out for Esther funds to help support initiate some of this that we're trying to produce to support our English Learners vulnerable population we also um put in a biennial request for the three areas of teacher to increase the teachers background and qualifications and to obviously the way to student formula and then also to request a teacher for every school so that they're able to do that this resolution doesn't matter this resolution only requires asking results to prioritize it which you prioritize it in the sense that you're going through asking for something that's correct and it's the original friendly menu and what is the what what is your definition or interpretation of prioritize is it just asking for the positions now it's it's also trying right it's also um having to think out of the box if we don't have the money how do we increase the bishop position so that we can do family engagement so families come into us especially if they're the level ones families that don't speak English or don't have the community awareness how do we get those families enrolled how do we get a person that's there to attach to them that's a huge priority newcomers they don't have that ability so it's our responsibility to figure out how we're going to do that so we try to think very clearly as much as we can out of the box how do we increase with what we have we work very closely with the complex areas and the cases and how do we support their schools in that Arena when looking at um for teachers to get qualified teachers we have um I believe it's been five years now because of cobit we had the extended timeline to ask every teacher that does any instruction or planning for students to become siq which means they need 72 hours of Education or three years of college that they get that basic knowledge that Brandon was talking about so you in every class at least they know how to do the different strategies instructions for English Learners I'm just saying folks already prior ity the siq was started five years ago the B shots has been a while that we've been working on that to increase the capacity and the numbers of those positions and then as for the funding for the PDS we as the department have picked up everything for the teachers from anything the cost Etc prioritize that are equipped because it seems as though you're supporting this resolution as though you're not doing it sorry I would do something we don't need the resolution center we we are prioritizing as um as Dr humble is saying so yes we don't need the result to continue to do what we're doing yeah yeah for any questions around those natural did you wish to testify it thank you thank you chair Vice chair in the committee Angela Melody young testifying on behalf of cares and strong support although they said it's unnecessary I was part of an ESL program at my email and I was taught by representative Corrine Chang a republican member um she was my ESL teacher and then she was just volunteering during that time um and then there was another teacher and then um so two teachers and then five students yeah for first grade and then by the by like second grade everyone is already powered with the program I don't know if it got ADC dealers I think um yeah so you know the um El program supports the Department's mission to provide standards-based education through supplementary instructional and I'll I'll go through a culturation activities Services provided through the El program implement the requirements of the title fee title IV of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and its regulations and the equal educational opportunities Act of 1974.
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okay you have a motion I'll make it a little second Mr kirsner just I'm Mr Hopkins aye Ms Olsen aye Miss Rodriguez it's approved four to zero okay next item is the approval of Title One tutoring for atimio meningo Mr Hopkins members of the board are Daniel manengo who was previously approved for State tutoring program has switched students and now needs to be approved for a Title 1 tutoring which has a different set of requirements and needs to be reapproved payment will be prorated to the February meeting and extend until the end of May I recommend artemio maningo to be approved as a title one tutor for the 22-23 school year okay I'll make it oh second Mr kirsner says I miss Olson aye Mr Hopkins aye Ms Rodriguez it is approved 4-0 next item is the approval of contract revision for Francisco Lopez the drop Conference of the board the administration is requesting an amendment of the 2023-2024 certified contract for a CTE teacher Francis Francisco Lopez Mrs Lopez will be a .63 FTE or 63 teacher next year this increase of time during the day will change your salary amount based off of how many hours she will be teaching plus a prep period I recommend the approval of the revised 2324 certified contract for Francisco Lopez Miss Rodriguez it's approved four to zero next item is the approval of the Tucson Tucson Youth Development agency agreement Mr President members of the board um all schools has had a long-standing relationship with the two science development which helps students in our home find summer jobs and works with students after graduation to find job opportunities attached is a user agreement approved by ausd's legal counsel uh I recommend the approval of the attached user agreement between all schools and Tucson Youth Development okay may I have a motion I'll make it I'll second it Mr kirsner just aye Mr Hopkins aye Miss Olson aye Miss Rodriguez it is approved 4-0 okay next item is the possible new items for the next meeting anybody on the board have item three I don't have any today I have my later on yeah we got some yeah okay then we are at that part of the meeting where I need a motion to adjourn I'll make it I'll second it all right Mr Curtis which is aye Mr Hopkins aye Ms Olson aye Ms Rodriguez 556 thank you very much thank you I think the awards thing was the one
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it came in at 758. so we're going to move forward with the projections we had that number had to be released to us at the end of March by Statute and so we know where that's going to come that's going to handle with that we then look to move the starting base salary to fifty two thousand and seventy dollars right now it's fifty thousand seventy it makes us competitive with neighboring districts um we'll talk about it at the end it's getting harder and harder to squeeze the turnip in terms of trying to pull out money but for right now we are competitive but but the additional dollars especially districts to the west of us through overrides is making it more difficult to squeeze this Gap we would also recommend a four percent increase Administration seven percent to exempt support staff that's a very small group but they are part of support staff and what we've tried to do in the past years is whatever the rest the support staff get in January we would give them uh and this time of year okay um we would continue your guys's approval of the increase the substitutes with the Loyalty stipend that we talked about at the last board meeting or two board meetings ago because we do extracurricular and co-curricular stipends based on the base so if you're the uh a department chair it's a percentage of the base support so right now it's a percentage of fifty thousand dollars let's just say I don't know what the number is but let's pretend it's five percent if we increase the base to 52 then that five percent is off 52 not 50.
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now I'm not asking you what you're specifically going to do but what's your game plan what's your goal what do you want to be when you grow up and that's a question I ask the adults and I think that's appropriate to ask kids you are 14 years old what do you want to do well I want to play great that's great you want to play baseball you want to be a probate is what you're doing now conducive to that you've got a wonderful goal are you going to get there doing what you're doing and you allow them to to prognosticate you allow them to fantasize but as you said the communication is important and I think it's realistic to let them set a placeholder yes this is what I want to do and then allow them to come to the conclusion that maybe what they're doing is probably not the best way to achieve their goal you know we try to keep it simple and again we do that with our adults you are a 38 year old man you've been on fentanyl for eight years what do you do for a living well I'm a construction guy well how fantastic do you like you know are you finishing Carpenter what do you want to do and then of course it's well or you want to go back to work and I'm amazed because a lot of people say you know if I ever get away from my fat no my heroin my methamp you know I think I want to be a drug counselor what a fantastic opportunity you have fabulous experience you have expertise you know how do you think you're going to get them well first I got to get sober absolutely an accident I gotta get my anxiety taken care of and then and I think the same scenario would work and it doesn't work right with kids you simply ask them what do you want to do how do you get there and is what you're doing now conducive and you let them take as much control of it as you can it's not harsh it allows them to do the leading and I think it has great potential it does it work don't know still in the experimentation stage and elected the bathing thing we'll know in five ten years but one thing I realize is all of us in this room are like that I'm assuming that most of us have turned out fine and so I think that I don't want to be a Harbinger do you know the 10 that are the bad ones we talk about I don't know that that 10 is going to grow up and and continue to be bad all the way along we have more and more than finally say you know this has not happened and I'm not happy with my lifestyle I'm not happy coming out of prison I'm not happy not seeing my children I'm not happy spending my money on dope there's got to be a better way and I'm going to start the problem is much like adolescents the brain neurons are just not connected quite yet and it's a switch we've talked about that the flicking of the switch all of a sudden one day we go from being obnoxious teenage adolescents to humans once again it was all there and the same thing for ourselves abusers they suddenly for some reason it just wake up because I asked why not last week why not last month why not three months ago and the answer is I don't know no acceptable answer at all and um I think one of the things that we do very well is we have a mental health counseling a psychiatric that isn't a must in our program so someone comes in for substance abuse or if they're if they're not at a point where they need the substance abuse maybe during we set them up with the counseling and under addressing those underlying mental illnesses whether it's depression or anxiety or something greater is very important because Dr Miller mentioned earlier the self-medicating continuity we also have our peer recovery Coach Joe and he does a fantastic job with being able to meet people where they are and help them to realize why do you want to keep going down this path and what the reason for change is and we also have a DNA matching urine um so we're able to tell if someone's urine is their urine and we're able to tell if someone has nicotine in their urine and many other substances so that is one of the things that you can do be proactive give them your experience of you are worried but our program offers so much benefits to be able to help these adolescents get off of substances and we do 13 and up anybody um committing Fairbanks from the prevention so anyway blew my little speech there's usually two pools of mentality prevention versus treatment or whatever um I'm going to be very extreme in my example so I apologize for stepping on everybody's toes or whatever treatment basically is we're going to wait around wait for this person get addicted and I would try to help them get off their drugs and stuff but prevention is let's try to keep them from getting one in the first place so and now probation I just spent it's been 30 years and both sides of it but my focus is prevention so yeah I like your programs around for medications Behavioral Health education residential recovery coaches so for the prevention thing very much like doctors talk about we use the prime for Life program educational program called THC educational program for communication-wide program and they do a very similar thing we do we go over it because what you're doing we use Tire Locus is this risking your value system or your goals or whatever so again it could be a risk of [Music] as well focus on the prevention some Lawrence for I'm going to talk about us at the township so what we do and what we do between our two high schools and our two middle schools is uh as of this year our two middle schools we've hired a full-time resource officer to be in the buildings and just kind of be visible we're all about building the relationships the one thing that I've learned in my time is relationships are as a policeman last forever and that and that was one of my big things working in the neighborhoods that I did was building relationships so when I visited the buildings that's my big one problem thing I always do but we are very we're proactive to the point where we do random spot checks at doors when we do and we'll switch them between buses and parent Riders and where we'll do some Bag checks we've actually had two dogs that work in the district and that are our detection dogs and uh I know Michelle who's the officer works here at Fall Creek her dog she's been working with him to be tapped the baby the the vape pens especially the case uh so and she's been having very good success with that so I mean we're trying to stay proactive in them our big thing though is building those relationships because when we do find and locate those things we try to get them to Posh it out and and we're trying to get trying to get into a point where we're having open conversations with I always tell the children now it's like look I'm retired even though I still have to do some parts of the policing decided in the training I'm retired and I want to maintain that retirement status I don't want to have to call the officer and put me outside to come in because the situation has gone bad and and you know with with the vape pens and the cakes it's a little bit different I mean the laws are very they're big and they're ambiguous and there's no no clear definition you know as to the percentages on the Delta eights and the Delta nines you know and so the kids that they they may be thinking they're getting a Delta and they're really not propagating about things they're getting a Delta 9 which is really truly illegal are they illegal marijuana and it and you know and so the testing parts for us it gets a little it gets very complicated and so we want to be proactive in the point that we want to identify as many as we can and when we can and get them into our trying to get into a program now and build on those things and help get the parents actively involved in bringing them into getting a better understanding and better education too for them I mean it is an education process this is somewhat new you know and for all of us and we're educating ourselves as we're you know trying to pass on that information to the parents so we try to do these things and be proactive and have strategies that we can build on and the nice thing is you know we're building it from the bottom and we're we're trying to cover as much as we can in a lot of areas that involving very a very eclectic group we're doing a restorative practices for part of our punishment uh not punishment I shouldn't say punishment it's not punishment it's about working and keeping them in the building and keeping them in school and keeping them through that educational process and the school I work at has involved me as to be a part of the panel and sit down and help you know build this thing from the bottom and so what that gives is a nice perspective so I can take that back to all our group and build them there the fun part about Lawrence Township too is most of the guys they see walking around on the inside are fire they're not policemen you know so we use our Public Safety family in such a rounded way to to Really build in those relationships and try to get kids to see how important what every facet that we do is in that you know especially you know like I said I've worked in the mental health side quite a bit you know if I can identify a problem I want to I want to get them to the right person at the right time [Music] like she said um you know it's it's hard for us to want to try to help them go out of school for you know however many things are looking at but when they come back if that is you know part of the consequence I I try to meet women or put them with uh resources around the community so that they have that support and not only myself because I didn't go around our district but we also have family Liaisons we have counselors communicate with so if they see changes in Behavior I get an email hey let's let's see if we can touch bases with this prevent them from going down you know they use so we are exploring um all possible supports and options within the district to try to you know you know get a protection before they live and keep them in the class where they get the education and the support um that they're in need of so that's kind of just kind of you know feedback off of you guys what we're doing here anymore um yeah um that is our kind of motto is to educate engagement Empower teams to celebrate its faculty lifestyle um and with tobacco that also includes nicotine for your lifestyle as well um as a teen and um Dream Team advocacy I have noticed that teams don't like to listen um at all you can ask my mom um but I noticed that two things that teams do listen to is social media and other teams because I feel like we get from our classrooms from our friends from you know people our age because we don't like to listen to adults because um I mean most of the time sometimes yeah but um it's hard you know to sit in a room and listen to an adult and be like wow they're really smart and then you know you guys prove us wrong and then we're like wow maybe I shouldn't be doing these things which is awesome but um you know another thing is teens wake up every morning the first thing they do is check their phones if they see one of their favorite celebrities baby you know or smoking they're like cool maybe I should try it um so what voice does is we do a lot of social media campaigning because instead of waking up and seeing you know one of a team's favorite singers baby and we want them to see a voice app it's like hey here's our program here's kind of what we do um and just educate kids through social media Instagram um Twitter we have a tick tock you know things that teams are actively on to try to educate them instead of you know just going to classrooms because in a learning environment it's hard to learn so I agree with Dr Miller earlier the kids are going to experiment which I think is important parents resist the urge to panic and freak out and I'm gonna say it's a lonely but uh before about I was waiting for the station I've been I've had this conversation ready to go in my day because I was expecting this uh so I do think we can take a breath as parents and regroup and you can kind of go from a different angle virtual accounts biggest supporter and cheerleader I'm in your corner and I'm supporting you and this is the end of the world we can get through this um some of the other questions how do I get my child who may be resisted to get into account coaching America he suggestions for the parents to be more proactive yeah we were doing that for what we do proactively yeah um so the State Health Department actually has its faculty Association commission that funds the half of the county so Marion County is funded and that's how I get to do my job but they have a really great website Bakery Indiana that has all kinds of resources for parents for schools for youth if you're looking to start those kind of conversations one of the I think coolest resources that I've seen is become an ex I believe becoming x.org and parents can actually sign up to get all kinds of tips you can watch videos you can get texts all kinds of ways to print it what we're saying like keep the keep the calm a little bit maybe the freak out on the inside so that when you are having those conversations with your children or your reaction that they think you might want to have because they're just not listening um really could help in the conversations around their addiction and their views so that they can maybe either be more open to their own treatment or also just seeing maybe what they're doing isn't you know exactly what they think it is you know help them see some of those misconceptions you know my child is visiting for how should I put it in the house moment what's kind of like just for today's program maybe the first step to getting them I would say treating them like humans you know we all make mistakes we all like maybe make a choice that is of the healthiest for us so having an open conversation where you like ask I'm concerned about your health like these things are concerning like I want to tackle this with you um asking about like maybe what they do know about Vape products and I would definitely suggest like going back and doing your own research before you know just saying something necessarily and solving the problem but I really think that um when we would be respond in such a negative or like reactive manner sometimes it's going to cause a reaction from the child that is to pull back that is to start to lie more or do all those things but when we're treating them like I've made mistakes and like this is about your health and this is us doing something together I think it's a much easier conversation to at least start and to really know that it is not going to be a one day problem solve you're not going to just be able to tell them this is bad for you and then to listen so some of that acceptance might be helpful as well the thing is just make sure they know that because they're using these products it doesn't make them a bad person or a bad human it just means that they're not educated enough to know or maybe they are educated but um it's good as a parent yeah it's good as a parent to know exactly you know what they're getting into so being educated as a parent yourself can really help you educate your child as well because I know I just said that teens don't listen but I listen to my mom most of the time so if you can really get through to your kid and not you know don't have that angry like manner on your face just be like hey we need to have a talk we need to have a conversation this is what you're doing this is not healthy this is not what you should be doing and here's what so I don't have any kids right now but I do have a nephew that's in high school and I return them to the uncle where he feels comfortable talking about these things he's not comfortable with his parents the highest things and all that and I was always worried about being that guy and then things kind of switch As I got forward that's kind of like use the palace here now I agree I don't think so something's gonna happen overnight but when you first don't know you don't pick like no what do you mean this is what that guy turns into if you're not careful and trying to show him like what guy do you want to be do you know any basketball players that do this not at all and so I kind of influence this thing you know don't worry about it this is going to be bad it can get so much worse and trying to make it feels comfortable okay don't do that anymore what would you rather do I'm just trying to make some on that and try to make them happy and cool because I think at least for a lot of us is we use it to enhance Our Lives whether it's happiness or to cover up sadness or whatever they're trying to bring their level up on they certainly start to realize that I don't really need that I can get away from it debate and regardless of I agree make them comfortable because they're saying that they're uncomfortable like I was I completely said I did everything and I just caused a little more problems yeah my suggestion to the parents just have that conversation today I don't know wait until you find the paraphernalia or something you've missed a boat so the sooner you talk to the children um it's a research 12 years old for them average exposure in the different types of substances I'm sure it's lower than that now with 10 years old or whatever it is so if you're waiting until they're 10 11 12 to start these conversations social media for three years of their own opinions appropriate obviously yeah you know my own thought is that that and again the Harkens back to one of your other statements it's parental responsibility you are the child's parent you are not their friend and I think that's an important delineation to make you say look I am your father I am your mother that entitles me to certain powers over you until you are 18 and which Ben Michael is to make sure you live until 18 and and the point is to and I think that's that's a recent problem that we see across the board is is the abdication of responsibility um you know the paradise it's not worth it the kids are going to wear me down it's just easier and so I go to a concept battles and worse you know there's nothing wrong with letting them move into battle occasionally that's appropriate but you need to decide who's ultimately going to win the war and you say here is what and it's okay to be different on different days you know I raised two daughters I will tell you that I had a huge High bar but it was in violent my wife God love her who was with them on a daily basis on any given day her level changed someday she was here and that's fine was it a criticisms are great but I think it battles of the boards you set the rules you say this is the rule that we are going to follow and yes there are certain things that we can negotiate and yes there are certain things that are non-negotiable until you're 18.
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so um it depends on honestly when the city counted it if they counted it in the prior cycle of this cycle but more than likely starting October 2021 if any new units that are developed following that would count towards this current number the current allocation a little confused by the new project that came online between October 2021 wouldn't reduce the 20 the point it would so the 2651 is just the allocation okay the requirement so you don't know what the net amount required correct well that would be important piece of information I can follow up and get that number for you happy to quick question uh do you know at what stage do you count the project as uh for that particular year planning uh in progress or completion all of them would count towards it so is it a double deep pound so essentially if you so the the way that uh Pro that cities and jurisdictions can Count Their allocation is what's called opportunity sites and so they essentially create an inventory of sites and there could be sites that are on that same inventory list for many many cycles if they're never built and so once they're built however then they would they would not continue to be counted in Prior Cycles but they can they can be on a list or three or four Cycles in a row if they're never developed and they just say well hey our job is to allow it we can't force someone to build it okay until we move on all right so now is where we'll get into some of the specifics for each of the properties so this slide as well as the next slide is uh just a general overview of the properties but again the information that's included here will be on the following slides and so uh just on the overview slide we have the approximate size of the different personals as well as the current zoning and again we'll go through those in more detail all right so the first site that we have up is Center Middle School um and so uh we have again when we talk about development and alternative use options as I mentioned when you think about real estate it's really important to understand where the site is located and to also be cognizant and understand what the local and surrounding development patterns are are and so we need in development we call that contextual influences and essentially what we want to know is what are the adjacent uses um because when a city is allowing for potential development and potential use options um if the owner is looking to change the current zoning more than likely you can look at what's next to the property to see what um you know is likely to be approved for use and so when we look at Center Middle School the property is located in a primarily residential area and so this is one property that's located in an incorporated area of Azusa so again you see it has an enthusa City address but it's actually outside of the city limits in Covina islands and so it is under the jurisdiction of the County of Los Angeles and so the parcel the properties compart comprised of one parcel it's approximately 13.87 acres in size so this is the largest property that we have within the analysis and the site is adjacent to single-family homes within light agriculture zoning we'll talk about that in a little bit because you could be wondering why is its own light agriculture um and so the property is boarded uh bordered excuse me by low density residential on all four sides essentially low density residential is single family homes and so there are streets separating the site from existing uses on the North and the west and they exist there are existing homes that are contiguous to the property on the south and the east and so as I mentioned this property here is located in an unincorporated area of Azusa and so it falls under the jurisdiction of the County of Los Angeles and so the county has zoned the property as a one six thousand uh A1 under the County zoning stands for light agriculture and then the 6000 stands for the minimum parcel size so the minimum parcel size of 6 000 square feet um and so the um light agriculture is essentially an outdated uh zoning that has stayed with the property um and so the county is actually in the process of updating their area plan and they're essentially have identified approximately 25 000 Parcels that they've said hey we realize these Parcels have outdated zoning and the current uses do not align with how the properties are currently being used for and so this property is included in that update um of again it's it's one property of approximately 25 000 properties throughout the county and Incorporated County land that the pro that the county is updating and so the county has proposed to update this property zoning from light agriculture to our one single family our one single family is the County's low density designation and so they're essentially saying that as I mentioned the properties located surrounded by single-family homes in a low density area they're essentially saying that this area is already used for residential and so we don't need to call it light agriculture anymore we really want to call it what it's being used for which is single family homes the reason why it the light aquaculture even still works there is that the way the zoning code currently reads is single family homes are an allowable use within a light agricultural zoning and it's essentially from when the the properties and the parcels were all Orchards and so it changed back in the 60s and then it has stayed in continuity until now and so there is no um formal official timeline in terms of when that zone change will take place uh when we did speak informally with County staff they said their goal is to um as to finalize their work on staffs and and take it to Planning Commission in June um however you know we're estimating that likely by the end of the year uh the zoning change could take place again um there were notices that were sent out to all the property owners I believe back in January and it's um there's really nothing for the property owners to do it's something that would take place once assuming the Board of Supervisors approved the change and then so um also the property is the zoning is light agriculture which again is going to potentially change to R1 but then the property has a land use designation which is a part of the general plan of uh public semi-public and So that obviously makes sense because the property is owned by the school district and so it's currently being being used as a public semi-public use um the area Plan update that is planned for likely this year does not include a change a proposed change should I say to the general plan um however the staff has noted that they're including a footnote in it saying that should the use change away from public semi-public then the land use designation will align with the current um surrounding uses which is residential and so I'm essentially any change away from a public semi-public use um and or any change in development that would allow for residential housing that's within the R1 would not require if it were approved a zone change and or a general plan admin um questions in regards to this property and also to the rest of the slides that we're going to follow the same sort of pattern that we have for Center middle school so I'll pause here for questions on this first site and then the next sites we can go through Lauren um looking at sight and knowing would there be a possibility to increase the density along uh is it burritos so um great question so uh the property right now is proposed for R1 which the county has essentially wow assuming Board of supervised approves it they are comfortable with low density single-family homes which is zero to nine low density allows for zero to nine units per acre they're potentially obviously always is the opportunity to increase zoning um looking at it just from my standpoint however one thing that we were told by the county is that any change in use and any potential residential development would need to align with the surrounding uses and so to me that likely says that R1 probably is the highest density um it might be pushing it to do a higher density but obviously that can never be guaranteed until whoever the applicant is goes through the application permit process there's even a partial change in order to be you know it would enhance the number of units are right I'll I'll say again we had informal conversations with County staff um nothing is ever guaranteed until you go through the application process so we had informal conversations um and um they were most comfortable with single-family low density and Lauren we'll get to this but there were other sites where they expressed an uh openness to a to a little bit higher density to medium density on the site so so that is certainly something that they were able to express with some of the properties but they didn't for this particular site that's interesting it would make it more attractive to develop increase the number especially the Cerritos double go down to 35.
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uh with regard to students with limited English proficiency title IV and its regulations require that students are able to meaningfully participate in and benefit from regular or special education instructional programs services for students and immigrant Children and Youth also implement the requirements of title III of the elementary and secondary education Acts title III requires El program students attain English proficiency and meet the same challenging academic standards that all students are expected to meet so that's why I'm in support thank you thank you so members I don't think we need to go into the chair is going to recommend that um for GM 552 we're getting ready the question was so members for GM 552 to advise and consent on the gubernatorial nominee Lindsay ball the chair is recommending that we do advise and consent on this nominee any questions any comments Vice chair for the vote okay the chair hold side press your hold size Center Canal Center Richardson shoes four recommendations for advising consent thank you thank you very much Lindsay for your willingness to serve and good luck to you that's meant in a video uh for HCR 59 urging the Department of Education to prioritize funding for English learner program in public schools to address the increasing population of English learner students and for the Department I think it would be um important for us to know which languages that you know these English language Learners are coming from I'd be interested to know that too uh chair comments okay chair is recommending that we pass as is HCR 59 any women's present voting opposition voting with reservation year none four members present one excuse recommendations thank you that concludes our meeting
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so there's going to be an increase there and we are anticipating that we're going to see about a 50 Cent increase in the minimum wage um to support staff in January 24th so we're planning for those dollars already saying we'll see some more information over the next few months but right now uh all numbers indicate 50 53 cents which is about 3.5 which is about half of what we did this current year okay so we're trying to build in that safety net uh so it especially um if if this next year is like this year couple things we also want to continue uh and all returning staff uh with a one-time two percent retention stipend I put estimated at 250 you'll see two numbers 500 versus 250. the reason I think it's actually closer to 250 500 is if we gave it to everybody we're not based on a number of people leaving us we're not going to have everybody get the retention stipend because if you're not working for us today you're not getting it in September and so what that number could adjust but we have a scheduled to come out of essers three and we have enough dollars to cover it even if it went up to 350.
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in terms of punishment and it's a bad word to use the problem is that as a parent you have to decide what a suitable punishment is without punishing yourself telling them that they can't go anywhere for a week means that your butt gets to stay in for a week too you know we joke about taking the bedroom door off the hinges which is my favorite punishment I can see Abby we're missing over there uh you know yeah then here you will have no privacy you are younger siblings will have access to your room and your stuff until you demonstrate appropriate responsibility then we will allow you privacy so it's battles of worse and again it's easy to understand because you can't punch yourself as a parent nor can you beat yourself up as a parent in the case that any of this occurs you can only do the best job you can and hope that you've taught your children your values and that they then take those and learn from them especially when I think the statistics are even greater than it's closer to 90 of high schoolers are at least trying to make things and it's about 70 percent continue with it through varying degrees so it's going to happen it's all over the place a lot of it was was there an invite sent to parents the new generation of parents they do it they don't care there's a lot of parents that I work with and I think they've got the little Vapes and the vape pens and it was cool none of these parents nowadays back their children up that's going to be the biggest problem like he said it's a community effort so um just kind of bringing to bring out to our community like hey every family is dealing with it but we want to have this conversation there's an issue with it information we have an education about it we have the education about it not everybody knows that the one pod is and so we're trying to reach everybody but we've got it on videos yeah that's true information yeah and your contact information will be available I do hi so my name is Caitlin um I work at Lawrence Central High School I'm a teacher I'm one of our behavior and resource teachers there um and I would say this is a huge issue that I deal with on a regular basis so I have a few questions if that's okay um just for someone just about Vapes are there any health benefits like I don't really know if there's none that has um how old do you have to be to buy a vape 21 whether or not they have nicotine or anything in them because some of my kids say to me so my kids will say well it's just water no so they can't buy okay I mean they're like we've said like we know that there's other access one thing that um we should really be aware of too as parents is that there's like this new like wellness Vape thing like yeah Urban Outfitter like cells like melatonin and things like that it's really a similar concept that like we're telling people who smoke cigarettes like we want you to breathe fresh air right but that air that aerosol is still happening with those flavors and we also like part of the reason why we know it's dangerous with those flavors is that we know that like uh like popcorn lung is uh one of the things that we see from fake products and it's because of that flavoring and it's because they're inhaling it so I don't even remember when the big thing happened when it all happened we figured out popcorn lung but Factory workers were getting sick because they were breathing in The Buttery flavoring that they're putting on popcorn we know that that's safe to ingest it's not safe to inhale and we can really say this about a lot of those vitamins and things like that too and some of those Wellness Vapes that I you don't have to be a certain age to buy them like we don't know the safety precautions around breathing in melatonin or vitamin C or like whatever they say like like they're for sleep or they're for Vitality like whatever they are so even if they're not getting something that has nicotine in it there are a lot of other companies that are attached to Big tobacco products that are selling Wellness base that who knows yeah and you said like they said like you know it's just water that's like sticking your head in a pool and breathing in pool water and it's like a way to like reduce their anxiety or you know fidget like I have a lot of kids period and they have to go to the bathroom and I'm like okay I'll have to find some of these because I was actually I was a girl on Tick Tock earlier and I saw um a girl who is on there um that is trying to quit her babe and she like found these products that um because a lot of things with like coping mechanisms is like that that habit that you get about something in your hand something on your mouth right and they're like really similar but they have like you just you were actually breathing in air that's there's like a mess like Flavor really kind of helping with some of that because we do that similarly with people who are trying to quit cigarettes with toothpicks and peppermint and something to kind of have in their hand to help with some of that fixation I'll have to find some of those things that might be like helpful um so are there wait are there any nicotine things that are like are these Vapes that are approved by anything um in what way like for health or I don't know just like a regularly so they're upgrade to be on the market to sell um we saw like I think like tens of thousands of products get pulled off when we had that flavor ban which is why Jewel has kind of dropped in some of their like market value um and why we saw other companies um like puff bar because they're disposable so Jewel had that that pod that you had to put in the device and those flavors were taken off of the market and then obviously you know billion dollar companies we're already ahead of you and kind of figured out and so they have a lot of those now in a disposable that's why you can get them in raspberries vanilla all of those different kinds of flavors but they are not a cessation device they're not approved by anyone to help anyone quit adults or children yeah and disposables I say are probably the most popular in high school besides the THC vape pens but disposables are the easiest I think for teens to get their hands on just because um like you can use it for a certain amount of time and then you can ask somebody to buy it for you that's over 21 or get it through somebody else at school and then use it again until it's up and then you can get another one and as far as I know and there is no standardized testing of any of these problems at all so you know and it's going back to like if these things are coming in and percentages of 80 and 90 plus percent but there's no standardized you know it's like they said well this is a Delta eight Delta eight so the legal or legal to sell because you'll see the adapting signs at the stores or the vape shops but a lot of those things are coming in at a higher percentage which is over that Delta level but there's nobody testing these things to hold them to a standard and so that's where a lot of the problems are falling into teens or young adults say like oh I'm using like a non-nicotine version or something and they they've done all kinds things out of 10 they have their advertised for that exact reason the bait shops like like gas stations all those but you know what I mean like nobody's doing that like testing of those products there are a lot of places regardless of the age also to everybody yeah or some if a parent has a collection an older brother has a collection you're not necessarily counting every single one of us abundant to them makes another one goes missing whether they do uh wants to drop us when they go out and get another one not realize that someone else has already obtained it I see them with a parking lots every day they're all over the place and as well whether or not any elephant is this it's all good see it's heated up and turn into a paper but since it cools back down your mom's it's a goal again um so you said you're a prevention yes and so does our Township have a treatment more of a treatment person so no so how we do it is organizations and kind of Leave It to the family news side if they want to take that outpatient okay um and so if that's an option refer them a lot of what I do kind of like Ron said is building those relationships and kind of trying to okay what's your why I like to talk about like why why do we feel that you need to partake in and then from there they just try to kind of set small like smart several kids okay let's try to you know try to scale back but in the meantime let's get you Council you know keep a journal you know those whatever strategy is going to work for them um outside you know outside you know like I said we have Liaisons and all of the schools touching the family Kate and you know it's not regular movie on Facebook whatever additional resources or support you know can you get that to them and their family eager to work with me just out of relationship s you know we've created we see progress we see decrease in use um turning in you know such a little actions you know okay let's get rid of it let's you know find an alternative so the relationships will be the main I know we're seeing a lot of it and I know that I'm a person however we've got support in all the schools we might just be a matter of knowing who to connect with because you know staff so that you know everybody's kind of kind of aware of the resources that assemble for our families here thank you so much yeah in terms of discipline of the district like how suspension in our school have a process I know each situation is different but like is there at least like you know you've been put out for smoking at our school so many times required to go get some help or are they like we just keep putting them out and then they come back so I mean we do we do have tears it does vary Case by case um but we do when it does happen we do try to have as much support whether it does result in Asheville suspension or in school suspension um we are definitely trying to make the effort to not give all the way around with nothing like I said before lattice is what we have also email for the concerns you know they may not have been caught with anything but you know family history might say you know they're high risk um changes of the friend group might say their guys academics are dropping out of the blue hey you know can you check and okay and that again goes back to the community we know U.S teachers have a lot of kids in your classes but as you guys you know make those relationships with the restorative practice knowing our kids and just even if it's just kind of the over them making sure you layerizing them every day you'll pick up lean on the Middle School hey um it's definitely immunocritis you know and we all know as a district for us you know we can do always do a better job I mean when we identify those I mean because I mean I can stand in a central hallway and go okay which one as they come by you know and it's and it's trying to to identify those when we can get them at least started in the system you know so you know yeah we know we can do a lot better in in the biggest part is to identifying getting the staff to buy them I mean because I hear it all the time you know these kids this one kid keeps coming in here and it's the same smell all the time and and you know what they're talking about it's like what are you doing to help you know get this person into some kind of program using labs and get you know because I'm to the point now it's like if I catch you and you're coming in the door I'm like you need to go home and change and that's that's I because I'm not even going to let you walk in the building go home and and you know most of them were 18 17 18 year olds were driving and like you gotta go home come back when you're back and yeah you know and I've got to be better in identifying him most of the time I know their names and I will take that to their grade level and say hey I've had this conversation and I sent them home because of this okay I appreciate that you know they'll write the information down and that's just trying to be you know because I I don't want them I want them to understand that I'm a policeman and I have this this law mentality but I also want them to understand that my goal is to see them succeed in life just like everybody else and that success is also helping them see this that they don't have to have to to be succumbed to these compulsive behaviors and let it become that addiction as an adult can become a problem I I mean I can sit and tell you story after story after Story just people that I've I've dealt with in their lifetimes and some too deaf and you know just and in those behaviors and you know and it's it's hard and stepping away from one and stepping into another I can see you can have the opportunity to to kind of early intervention some of these and hell you know and try to get get some changed behaviors and change thought paths and just chime in real quick that I agree with the tears and things advised by by prevention mentality and education programs out so first I think something the child was caught with the vague immediately part of that intervention to be referred to the educational classes I should just be different you're not coming back to school you're not getting off in school suspension and tell you right and we do eight hours 12 hours and 20 hour classes at least an eight-hour class and I think seriously and think of something because even though the adults are going through our educational program saying why isn't this not in school and I'm like I don't know yeah I'm working on it yeah even the Indiana tobacco foot line is a free resource to all Indiana residents and they've got all kinds of different programs for youth 13 and up for those um like there's a behavioral health side so they've been like diagnosed with bipolar schizophrenia or just can report that you know anxiety is why they can't but there's all kinds of different programs that are fully free with people who have used tobacco before and you can get like a they could get referred to that and they can get a certificate for doing that even as like a person Association has a really great program that they can do too so there's even like some small steps too maybe before maybe get to that eight hours that might be an option to kind of refer them to that as well and so these are some of our resources um of course but because you mentioned um there are a few training that I outside of work went ahead and did on my own and they are so easy from American Association catch as some great resources on there as well to educate yourself and then I wanted to put Aaron's case exchange because that is actually here locally they have average school meetings for teens [Music] resource of educating yourself on just the the mix honestly the myths about some of the sum of the theater you know kids will come and say oh you know well actually you know especially apparently come back but I actually read this you know this is it's easy it's free it's got free information uh families and um [Music] were there any closing um comments or things that anyone has um share as we wrap this up or any last final questions I appreciate everyone for coming coming out giving a lot of information a lot of resources we will have this all available online to come earlier in the school year you know the conversations can be had to get a head start because again like I said our normal new goal is to educate our kids and you know prepare them and have them be as successful as possible and again so yes again I thank you guys being a partner
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we're any other questions and then I guess again to levels that this was this was including the glossary of terms but it's everyone um comfortable with the idea of like density when we say low density what that means okay great all right so moving on the next property is Ellington Elementary School and so the findings for this property are very similar to that of Center um the reason being is that this is the second property that is also located in unincorporated Los Angeles County and so it does fall under the jurisdiction of the county and so because they're within the same jurisdiction these properties have the exact same zoning as well as the exact same land use designation and essentially a lot of the same recommendations from the county and so for Ellington Elementary the property consists of one personal the parcel is 8.55 acres in size um and the site is located south of the highly concentrated retail on Azusa Avenue and this site actually is adjacent to a mix of single-family homes as well as the University District zoning from moderate density to mixed use um and so the site is bordered however by low density residential on all four sides and there are streets separating the site from existing uses on all four side and so as I mentioned the zoning and land use designation for this property are exactly the same as Center Middle School um the current zoning is that a16000 for light Agriculture and this is one of the uh another one of the 25 000 Parcels that the county has proposed to change the zoning from light agriculture to R1 low density single family and so once again R1 does allow for zero to nine units per acre with a minimum of that six thousand square foot lot um and then The Landings designation once again is public semi-public and so similar to the key findings for Center Middle School um this property would be similar we're assuming the Board of Supervisors does approve the area Plan update um it would be one of the 25 000 Parcels that would be updated to an R1 single family and so um the again similar to Center Middle School the land use designation is not proposed to change so that will remain public semi-public as long as the school district owns the property in the event that the use were to change away from a public or semi-public use then the general plan Amendment would likely not be required however um there the update does have a footnote that the landing designation would automatically update to align with surrounding uses which is once again low density residential so moving on to former Sierra High School and so we are now switching jurisdiction so the first two we were talking about County of Los Angeles and so now we're switching to our second jurisdiction which is the city of Glendora so uh we'll talk through the zoning and the landing designations here but um we are dealing with different names and different Zone zoning codes here and so this property as I mentioned is located in Glendora and it is comprised of one parcel that is just over nine acres so it's 9.07 acres in size uh the property is located in a primarily low to medium density residential area you can see here the property is bordered by multi-family residential to the South and then low density residential to the East and the north um this is actually right on the border of Glendora and unincorporated County Land so to the West is an incorporated County Land and Dalton Park is right across the street which is actually owned by Los Angeles County um immediately West and then the Eustis to the East and the South are contiguous the property and it's bounded by streets to the North and the West and so here again we have switched to a new jurisdiction and so the zoning and the names are a little bit different um but they still roughly mean the same thing and so because it is in the city of Glendora Glendora Municipal Code has zoned this property already for R1 a single family residential so this property is currently already zoned for single-family homes here the land use designation is a bit different has a different name but it's essentially the same same meaning so the name here for Glendora is Civic slash institutional within the general plan but it's essentially um reserved for uh public or semi-public use that's similar to County of Los Angeles and so um what's interesting here is that we talked about it briefly before when we were talking about Rena but when we said how how does the city or county count basically the number of units they identify what's called either opportunity sites or they put together what's called an inventory list um and they essentially will look at their city and say what Parcels are underutilized and what Parcels do we want to see developed and they have actually already identified this parcel so this property as site 49 so it's a it's one of over I think 80 sites um potentially that they have identified and so this parcel is called site 49 within their housing elements sites inventory list and the city has already said that per their high level overview that the property could support 43 to 54 single family homes on it and so again um essentially because it's on the housing element it's already zoned for residential housing um this city is essentially stating that if anything if any development were to take place we really want housing here once again I said it before a city or a jurisdiction cannot force a private owner to develop their property however the city is the ultimate um Authority when allowing for different uses on a property and so if the property were to change hands or if another use were to be considered the city is really pushing for housing on this site and again 43 to 54 units this is one of the sites to your question where the property is zoned for single family however the city this city did mention that they could potentially they were open to further conversation they again nothing is ever guaranteed but they're open to further conversation regarding potentially um uh increased density here and so one thing to note for this site this is a little different than the prior two sites because those were under the county um jurisdiction but with this property the zoning already allows for housing however as I mentioned the land use designation does not so the landing designation is Civic institutional and so if um the use were to change away from a Civic or institutional use a general plan Amendment would be required which essentially a general plan amendment is a quite lengthy process it's about 12 to 18 months where a potential property owner or a potential buyer would need to go through a defined process in order to amend the general plan and the general plan this was included in the glossary of terms but it's essentially a long-term Horizon where the city or the county or wherever or whoever the jurisdiction is where they say we really want to see these uses on this site and so General plan Amendment you have to go through the process to say well we know you wanted to see this use but we want to change the use so will you amend your general plan or amend your long-term Vision to align with what we want to do on the property um and then this was um I already stated though that the properties included in the housing element and then once again the same as um the other sites that we talked about um any potential development here really should be consistent with the surrounding adjacent neighborhoods okay we're halfway there um so now we are moving to our third and final jurisdiction so this site as well as the remaining two sites are all going to be under the city of Azusa and so we are once again dealing with slightly different zoning and slightly different land use designations and I'll explain a bit further on what those mean and so Mountain View Elementary this property is also comprised of one parcel and it is 8.45 acres in size the site has immediate access to Interstate 210 which you can see on the photo here and it's surrounded by single-family residential to the north to the East and to the South and then what's interesting here is you can see it on the photo here but to the left or um to the West uh the property is bordered by light industrial uses and so those are potential those are uses such as Ironworks welding Highway improvements contractors things like that and so at this site is a little different again because the prior sites were all surrounded by residential uses and so this one does have some light industrial to the wet and so going into the Zoning for the property this property again we're in a new jurisdiction so the name is going to be different but it is essentially a zoning and Landing designation that's reserved for public agencies and So within the city of Azusa the zoning is called ins which stands for institutional slash School and the ins zone is applied to sites within the city that are essentially occupied or reserved for public agencies public facilities and utilities private schools libraries government offices things of that nature and so um obviously that makes sense because the property is currently owned by the school district and then the land use designation for the property is also the same institutional school once again because it is owned by the school district and um similarly the institutional School land use designation is for government agencies administrative offices things of that nature and so with this property um this one is also a little different because the zoning as well as the Lanny says like Nation are for institutional schools so for public agencies whereas the prior three sites that we talked about um the zoning was already for residential I'm here at for this property and you'll see in the the remaining two sites uh the zoning is specifically are or specifically for institutional School use and so if there were to be any change in use away from an Institutional School use a zone change would be required as well as a general plan Amendment again because um the zoning is not or is already institutional School and so while the property um is right next to light industrial on the left um when our team did meet with uh informally with the city um you know essentially when we like we said when we talk about development you essentially look at what's around it to see what's likely to be approved and so that left us with two options either potentially residential or potentially a light industrial use um in our informal conversations with the city however the city did note that residential was of high need here over light industrial um and so it was noted that um again they can't enforce anything but they would love to see residential here on this property um and then once again same as we've already said multiple times before any residential development considered should be consistent with the surrounding areas may I please ask a question of course uh you mentioned uh previously that a general plan Amendment could take anywhere from 12 to 18 months how long is the rezoning process because with this one you would need both the general plan Amendment as well as a rezone yeah great question so the um the degrees zoning process would be congruent with the general plan amendment process if you were solely just doing a rezoning so for example um we'll know the other three properties you don't need to do a ReSound but if you were doing solely just doing every zoning it doesn't really apply here but just in general it would be a lot shorter I have a question I just need some clarification on the difference between a zoning designation and a land use designation great question okay so um land use designation is a part of What's called the general plan and so the I always say they're two sisters in the general plan is which is essentially The Landing designation is the bigger older sister um and with that the general plan is a long-term Horizon for development um and when you see a general plan the city or the jurisdiction is essentially looking out 20 to 30 years in advance and so as I mentioned the current General plan for the city of Azusa was adopted in 2004 and here we are chosen 23 and we still have the same general plan and so um a land use designation essentially says this is how we want the land the parcel to be used and we're designating it for this use the difference between land use designation and Zoning is zoning as sort of a little sister the zoning always has to align and match and be consistent with the general plan however the zoning gives a little more a lot more detail and a lot more specificity so for example um the um the um if we have a general plan designation it would say low density residential right then when we go into the zoning the zoning would say R1 and then it would Define exactly how what what we mean by low density so in in the case of Lindora it would be zero to nine units per acre and then also what the zoning does in terms of giving more specifics is it also includes development and building standards so it would say okay well to with within R1 the height limit is 35 feet we require setbacks from the street of this amount or it could even do something such as a specific permitted as well as conditionally permitted uses and so the general plan in The Landings designation is more of a broader long term and then the zoning gives more specifics and more detail but they always a line or they should align there are instances however when they don't and when they don't that's where jurisdictions say oh well we have to crack this and we have to make sure there's there's a continuity thank you I appreciate it yes for for the rezoning and for the general plan Amendment that would be on the school district's time so in other words if you wanted to sell the property the developer is not gonna buy it without knowing it's been rezoned correct so yes and no and but I can give you like some caveats right so um there are instances so if the school district were considering selling a piece of property right um there's two ways that you could sell property you can sell property as is which is with the current zoning as it currently is or you can sell property um and what's called subject to entitlement an entitlement is a fancy term that is basically saying that you have approval from the jurisdiction to build what you want to build so that's what we call entitlement and so when we say selling it subject to entitlements that is um where you build in a long escrow process for whoever the buyer is to go through the entitlement process to submit their applications and to get approval to build what they want to build um now I say there's a lot of different caveats in it because um most of the time um your if you were to sell a property subject to entitlements versus as is there's a big value differential right because selling a property as just Land versus selling it as 90 homes there's a big value difference right so it it most of the time is in the district's best interest or a seller's best interest to sell it subject to entitlements and so because of that as you mentioned um you build in a long contingency period And so that could be anything from 12 to 24 months um based off of whatever the local jurisdictions timeline is and really if it was for development a developer also is not going to want to it's a risk for them right if they have a risk of potentially not knowing what they can build they're going to offer you really low because they're measuring risk but if they can close knowing that we have approval to build what we want to build then they can value that and the risk is immediately lowered for that so to answer your question yes um it would it would be on your time um however though all of that is negotiable in terms of you know how do we account for the time right you know there's a ways to do it but you can build in deposits to make sure that hey you're just not going to tie my property up for two years and you know at the end of it I get nothing but making a story building deposits but yeah other questions can the district be the owner that develops like they can oh yeah well so yes the school district can develop you can you're more than welcome to develop your own property um obviously and they develop single-family homes in that well so yes everything is possible and you can make money right um so to answer your question yes if the school district wanted to develop single-family homes on the property you can um obviously with anything you have to think through the feasibility of it and you know the risk associated and and how do you fund it but of course you can okay so generally um because I've worked with districts that have asked me this before like well why don't we do the process of just getting the you know the site entitled and then we'll sell it and it's great um there there are some there are lots of things to think about first like we were saying costs right I've heard estimates that just just the entitlements process can be you know hundreds of thousands of dollars to do right and and you have no guarantee on the back end that you are um entitling the property to a density or like a product type that a developer wants right so um you know for example we have all this information about what we think the city will approve if they were to receive an application um but we have developers that will come forward and say you know this is our our specialized like product type we want to up the density we're going to submit application and see if the city will go for it and sometimes the city says yes um but if the district were to were to entitle it it was almost the district would have to kind of read the market in some ways and that's kind of difficult right and then if if you entitle to the wrong specs which is the wrong word but like if you entitled to the wrong density for example then you may not have a buyer on the back end and you spend all that money for no reason um so yeah the the cost and the risk are really the two things that would dissuade um the other thing and you know if we're talking about past just the entitlements process the actual building and developing of of the residential housing that's something that from a cost perspective right so like if if your question was not just can we entitle the site but why don't we build apartments and sell them and make a bunch of money um well developers have have like economies of scale right so they have all of the they have so many contracts in place and they're doing this at such a scale that it would be much cheaper for them and much more um maybe cheaper is not the right word but it would be more affordable right they would yes thank you more efficient for them to do the building than it would be for the district to do building of apartments and to put it in context it ranges the cost for entitlements ranges from City to City into jurisdiction but generally speaking we say like high level numbers 300 to 500 000 and that's for the entire thing that's the city permits the whole process that would be up to the developer to to do right so the district just sold the property that's not on them right okay yeah so uh you know if you were potentially considering development on one of the properties um that would be the entitlement process is typically a cost and a time that is borne by the buyer um and so you know obviously a developer that's what they do every single day and so they um you know know the process and they know how to navigate it and so that that's a part of the risk they're risking their dollars um because they see potential in the property other question okay let's move on to Powell Elementary School so Powell Elementary School as I said before this site is also included um within the city of Azusa city limit and so it's going to have the same exact zoning and the same exact land use designation as Mountain Elementary School and so this property is um uh 9.14 acres in size it is consists of one parcel as well and this is surrounded by residential area and so the you can see here in um on the the photo that there's single family residential um on the uh west east and south and then there are some multi-family uses up above on to the north of the property and so again this property is uh reserved for um institutional slash School uses and it has the same ins Zone and land use designation and then in terms of the the key findings for the property very similar to what we had for Mountain View where any change in use would require a zone change as well as a general plan Amendment and any potential development whether it was residential or whatever any development would be required to be in line with the surrounding area and then the last site that we have is Slauson Middle School once again it's very similar to the um sites that we discussed um and so Slauson Middle School is also within the city of Azusa it's one square shaped parcel um it's 9.43 acres in size the property is adjacent to a mix of low density as well as medium density homes and it is one block from the San Gabriel Avenue commercial Corridor it's bordered by low density single family on the east west and north um and Memorial Park which is owned by the city of Azusa is located south of the property right across the street and the property is bounded by streets on all four sides and so similar again to Mountain Boone Powell it's the same exact zoning of institutional school and so if the use sort of change away from an institution or School use then a General plan Amendment and zone change would be required the key findings once again are similar in terms of any development of the property would likely need to be strongly likely need to be consistent with the surrounding area and then again one thing that we did note obviously is that the property is directly across the street Royal Park and so um now moving just to just a summary of sort of everything we discussed um So based on the study of land use regulations governing the development of property um local market conditions uh the highest and best use for the development of the property is residential housing ranging from low density to medium density and so I wanted to pause real briefly to talk and help Define what we mean when we say highest and best use and so even though it sounds like it is object or subjective highest and best use is actually a term that is from the appraisal Institute so it is an appraisal term and it's a very objective term and essentially what height and best use means is that it's the most probable use that is going to provide a property owner with the maximum value and so we're essentially when we say highest and best use we are solely looking maximum Revenue so what is the highest and best use from a revenue standpoint we obviously understand when looking at school district property revenue is important but there are other influences that that would need to be considered and so I just want to make it clear when we say highest and best use we're solely talking about what is going to provide the property and the school district essentially who's the property owner with the maximum dollar amount and so for that it's going to be residential um and so when we look at the highest and best use of the properties like I said they are some form of residential ranging from low density to medium density housing and so the proposed Zoning for Center and Ellington those are the two properties that are are under County jurisdiction and those are the two properties that the county is proposing to rezone to single family residential the proposed zoning does align with the property's highest and best use or the the current Zoning for the former Sierra High School that's the property that's within city of Lindora um that's also the property that site 49 within the housing element um the current zoning already aligns with the property's highest and best use we did discuss however that the um the land use designation does not align with housing and so it would likely require a general plan amendment to receive the highest and best use and then finally the final three sites that we discussed which are within city of Azusa City Limits um Mountain View Powell and Slauson the institutional school as zoning and landings designation does not align with the property's highest and best use and so as we already discussed a general plan Amendment and a zone change would be required to allow for residential housing and so um we talked through this um and high level but really the primary factors when you're looking at development and also when you're looking at um specifically highest and best use um have to do with the contextual influences and development patterns within the area um and they're really largely dependent on um input from the local jurisdiction and so uh we did share how our team we had informal conversations with the governing jurisdiction so city of Lindora City Azusa and County of Los Angeles and based off of um just the market and specifically Arena allocations each of the jurisdictions are strongly strongly strongly strongly strongly pushing for housing again they cannot force you to do housing on them however if they had it their way they would have housing on the site and then also one thing that I wanted to note on each of the properties that we went through we listed what the highest and best use was and then we also listed some other alternative use options so I wanted to talk through um some what some of those options are um and so um each of the properties can be used and they're as is conditioned and so when we say as is um we're essentially saying buy right development and buy right development is another term that's included in your glossary of terms um and buy right development is essentially development that aligns with the current zoning and so as I mentioned I I want just I keep reiterating this but a local jurisdiction cannot force you to develop your property um and they also have to allow you to they have to allow by right development meaning that they have to allow you to develop within the current zoning standards and so because of that um the properties are the ones that are zoned institutional school um the school district can use them as is whether it is for internal School District use or you could uh potentially sell it and or lease those properties to another end user who will use the property as it and so when we obviously when they use it as is it would have to align with the allowable uses that are within the current zoning um however when we say as it's essentially a user that can come use the property with relatively little to no develop additional development or construction and so that is is an option on the side um and then for a few of the properties it also listed potentially alternative housing and so um alternative housing Housing Development are potential options on some of the properties as well and essentially that is any housing that is not market rate housing and so that could be a variety of different housing options that could potentially be senior housing that could potentially be Workforce or employee housing if the school district wanted to allow housing for its employees that could be an option um and so that's what we call alternative housing essentially anything that is not um market rate it could also be supportive housing or something along those lines and so with that I'll hand it back over to superintendent thank you Lauren um one of the things that came out of uh our last our first meeting uh was a question about does the district see any potential use for the properties um and so just initially um we can say that there is some initial interest from the district to use at least two of the properties um so right now in initial thinking uh property no First Property would be to provide Sierra High School with its own School right now they share the property with the adult school um and as we start to Envision the adult school and growth of the adult school um Sierra High School already is very compacted and um there's things that teachers have to do they're like sharing rooms um and so it would be nice to provide them with their own School the second property um again just an initial thoughts is something like a community and Conference Center that's a very vanilla term but let me kind of explain a little bit about that uh Azusa Unified School District was one of the largest grantees from the state of California for something called a community schools Grant we received 15.9 million dollars uh to Institute and grow Community Schools at each of our schools and so when we think about the journey that we're about to launch at every one of our schools it almost seems appropriate to have a hub like a community Hub um where we would have Community Resources and benefits at this location additionally one of the things that we struggle with is space space for meetings space for professional development State uh space for training and so when we think about not only for the district but for school sites as well if they wanted to host something a little bit larger than than they have in their capacity or they just wanted to be off campus Because the library is in use but they need a space that there would be a a location where we would have meeting space for training for meetings for those types of things maybe even envisioning model classroom setups right those kinds of those kinds of things so kind of like a multi-purpose uh space uh for those things and so right now initially um to answer the question that was asked last time right now that's kind of of initial thought I will tell you that um throughout the process we'll continue to refine and we'll continue to communicate with this uh committee I know that uh the Board of Education probably also has uh some thoughts and some dreams and some interest in that as well and so we'll be bringing that uh uh as well but right now initially uh we do see at least the use of uh two properties again one for Sierra High School one for a again for lack of a better term right now Community slash Conference Center so with that I'll just I'll just pause here again for a minute and see if there were any thoughts or questions from the committee about any of that content we've just gone over question so I noticed here that uh the news here or the old Sierra would be Sierra again basically is that what you're saying though at the adult education center uh that's a very good question and a very good conclusion uh but not necessarily okay um one of the things that we want to make sure that we are extremely mindful of as we go through this process is such a big decision okay um is that we are taking all of the data points into consideration so for example we have six sites and we know that not all six sites are equal right now in terms of where they are on big things like HVAC modernization cabling Roofing like those kinds of things and so I think we need to we need to bring those pieces into those decisions so not necessarily to answer your question directly a little bit differently there the staff or the board the district has an identified particular sites yet for those uses these are just kind of more abstract Concepts these are things we think we could do now let's identify where it makes sense to do them potentially I'm concerned about the words of use when you use the word community are you thinking of a center for use outside of just the school district in other words a small places for small businesses to conduct a business that they could rent and and have a business meeting haven't thought that far ahead um so no initially uh no when we think about the community we're thinking about uh resources and Services for Families um that would bring benefit to our kids and to our parents whether those be health related mental health related uh social emotional related um so not necessarily um to rent out to businesses that have nothing to do with what we are doing as a school district I was also just going to note at the board meeting yesterday of the ideas that came from the board with regards to this particular idea was to potentially partner with the city um and so obviously that's going to depend on the interest from the city and availability of funds and you know if if that's something that they're interested in doing but it was something that was brought up uh by the board last night when when the same information was provided okay I'm sorry I'm turning it off um adult education does that fit into this picture yes so right now our adult education center uh shares the property with Sierra High School so if we find Sierra High School its own school now adult education can can take over the entire property and as we again dream big and we think about growth and we think about programs to attract our adults back to learning back to training uh that we think that that would bring a benefit to us as a district as well yes please out of curiosity is there any so the former Sierra High School is in Glendora is there any conflict with it that has come up in the past or anything where it being in a different city has caused issues or is that something to think about uh it just being in a different jurisdiction from the district perspective uh zero conflicts or zero problems um as noted today um we have properties in three different jurisdictions um and sometimes right um you're dealing with the sheriff's Pandora PD this is a PD right those kinds of things but nothing that I would say major that would be like deal breaker or like something heavy to consider among the similar in your informal conversations has the city of Azusa made any indication at all that they are interested in looking at their General plan or updating their General plan since hearing from you today that it hasn't been done in over 20 years well so um that's pretty standard you know General plans are 20 to 30 year time frame Horizons um I went in talking with them they are in the process of getting ready to update it but it won't be anytime soon it's typically uh two to three year process in terms of it's a public process similar to this when they update the actual General plan but so it's pretty standard for a general plan to be from 2004 and is still be active because of the long term Horizon um yeah I have a question regarding um the criteria of needs that that the school district needs um I just uh like for example I love hearing the fact that there is conversation about um this community center type thing um because I think that is obviously speaking to the board or the school district saying we have these needs that are being unmet we have a grant for 15 million which is so exciting um is there a timeline on when we need to use that Grant by yes there is a timeline uh right now that timeline is five years okay um even though it's Uber early they're already conversations or talks about extensions but we don't want to bank on that but right now we do know it's a five-year timeline right okay and again because funding is always always the hard part so it's so exciting I'm not sure if you guys already have a list of criteria of what the even you know the teachers are saying the students are saying Etc as just a Community member I get excited when I think about something outside of housing love how housing is you know obviously highest and best you know use you know for many perspective like any landowner really wants to be able to build a house you're probably gonna make the most money back Etc but when I think about this community project type thing I think if we can narrow down what the criteria is that exactly what we're looking for um that would be really neat to then sort of package that with the with you know with hopefully use of these funds and be able to actually build what we suggest which is so exciting so yeah anyway I was just going to speak to that and then I think you know for example one or you know several of the criteria might be um what existing facilities on one of these one of these sites has the you know the the age and the current condition to be able to support these uses right so we would maybe want to use a slightly newer building or one that's been updated more recently as opposed to a building on a site that may need a lot of rehab or you know where more money would be needed to get it up to speed to be able to you know to have used for this and uh the superintendent really spoke to that that's that's you know something that um you know we're going to be looking into further to be able to kind of make an assessment of what which sites may be most suitable for that um the other thing that I want to note is you know of that great massive amount of money that was allocated for Community Schools right it's not um I don't I don't want it to come across as we have all of that to build a new facility right some of that's going to providing those services and doing all of the other aspects that you know are required for Community Schools uh so Personnel for example right those costs as well so um one of the other things to think about is that um you know we heard about the push from from the local jurisdictions to build homes on some of these sites now some of those sites could could bring in Revenue right that could also be put back into these you know School uses Community uses and so it's really figuring out how do we identify what what the district needs and then do we identify funding from that that we can put back into those uses and just one other question too is is there an ability for us to subdivide properties um yes so all the properties that we looked at are single Parcels I believe um but that doesn't mean that they can't be further subdivided um school districts as public entities actually have kind of a shortcut they have an exception to What's called the subdivision map act which is the the process the the law that dictates the way that uh that uh the parcels are maintained and split and taxed um so uh yes for example I worked on a site for a district a couple years ago where um the city expressed interest in just a small portion of it to build a lift station so we split off the city kind of carved out their use of the site we sold that to the city to use and then the remainder of the site being sold to a developer for development so that is that is certainly an option Sarah since you um alluded to it a little bit uh can you be a little bit more explicit uh with the committee in terms of um when we think about potential of you know of um usage and if there were to be a sale can you be a little bit more explicit with the committee in terms of those dollars and how those dollars can be used yeah so I think the question came up with the last meeting are there any limitations on you know if we were to sell a site and make millions of dollars potentially what can that money be used for and um the answer is there there are limitations they essentially have to be used for Capital Improvements they have to go back into facilities improvements um and so that's why you know I brought up this this concept tonight about if you know if there's an exciting idea for a district use that Revenue could be put into improving that facility making it larger upgrading you know things internally that it needs to operate any other I think was there a question comment I have a just a question on the Community Schools I don't know much about it I haven't been involved in it but could that include Community Day School there or is that not part of that that's a totally separate so to answer your first question can it yes but are we talking about the same thing 100 no Community Schools and Community Day School are two very different things okay and and the grant that we received has nothing to do with a community and that's yeah yeah because I always like think about that and it has nothing to do with it correct and so what you're saying is that if you do sell another property you can use it to improve so you sell let's say Sierra you can use it to to prove Gladstone meaning a pool you're waiting for it right well I'm biased there so yeah okay cool yeah to answer your question there's there's no restriction that says that the the money has to stay on the same parcel or the same property it just um has to be spent for district facility uses in general so yes it could be used to improve a different site excellent I think also um and I'm not the expert on this but I'll speak to it just because I think it helps to clarify this uh this this concept of Community Schools I think is really intended to help kind of build out the services that are provided to students right so beyond Education Health mental health physical health all of these other things that kind of go into you know creating healthy students and and adults right so that that's the idea is you you build a community around them with all of these other more functional services that go into education as well yeah thanks for the clarity because some of us think at the end education we think Community Schools and we think Community Day schools so excellent clarification Mr superintendent has there been any he has the city indicated any interest in partnering with something like this I realize that you're in the dreaming phase but has the city indicated in any interest in partnering with some sort of Community Conference Center um and a follow-up question have has the district considered partnering with any non-profits or entities that are already in existence within the school district or within the the boundaries of Azusa that provide similar programs that are already available to Residents yeah so let me Begin by saying that um I am very uh proud of the relationship that we have been building with the the city of Azusa um although we have not spoken about this particular thing we are in the works for a lot of Partnerships uh to revive some of the things that we used to have here in Azusa for example people after school Parks and Rec programming at our sites that is something that we are working on um and we're hoping to launch uh two schools pretty soon and hopefully all of our schools uh right now uh we are also envisioning and dreaming uh possibly teaming up with the city to open a teen center at Gladstone Middle School uh for again a place to have students be able to go to uh after school if they don't want to be one of our after-school uh programs we understand that kids and families should have choices and we offer a plan a plethora of choices uh but that doesn't mean that if it's all of our students and all of our needs um so so yes we have been partnering with them when I think about a community uh and Conference Center again it's very vanilla I probably think of something flashier and prettier to say but yeah that's kind of the vision right we know that we have lots of Partners uh that provide services to our students Apu McKinley Pacific Clinics um so many different partners um the city that that we have and so um that's what I Envision a place where those Services could be centrally located so that families don't have to um navigate um and make it difficult where I can just go to a place where I'm going to be helped and it's going to be help right there and right there I don't have to get an address and I have to try to figure out how to go there and now I have to go talk to somebody else and so how do we centralize some of those things to make it easier for our families uh to uh Sarah's point the this would be kind of like a hub because then every school would be an extension of this idea but the idea would be that what is important and needed at Paramount could be completely different to what's important and needed at Hodge and so to allow that individuality and praise it and embrace it and applaud it um but that we know that as a city though and as a community there are things that are essential to all of us and so that's kind of the the initial dreaming of kind of where that would be the only other thing I was going to know in response to your question is that they're um in in the um the framework or what it looks like to to sell a property there are certain legal requirements that you know for example before any one of these properties got to be open for developer offers it would have to be offered to uh certain government entities and non-profits right so they they have a uh what's what's called a priority offer for each of these sites before it gets sold um one of the things I've seen though that will happen is you know you'll have folks in the community that have all of these great ideas about a community garden or a non-profit use and yet when it comes down to that that chance right where the district has opened the market to those those folks those those offers just aren't there right there's you you don't see the you know the individuals or the entities that are willing to support those uses and so sometimes I just like to you know to kind of to kind of put it out front it's not that in some cases districts aren't looking to support that or they're not making the property available for those uses it's just that we all have those dreams and then you have to have someone that comes forward with the funding and the and the effort to make those happen so um I just want to highlight too that as part of that process there is this this built-in priority for those more like public and non-profit uses as well even if it's not something that necessarily supports District students at the district can be a part of like the idea that we talked about you know separate and apart from that there's this there's this other part of that of that process um I just have a request I'm not sure if we're able to do this but um on page four uh we have the overview of the locations in which we're discussing right uh the six properties is it possible to get an overview on top of that of where the existing schools are now uh the reason why I'm interested is because you I think we should always be taking into consideration um accessibility just sort of making sure that under resource areas of our communities can walk to their school still or some you know I'm just interested in so knowing for example if there's really no other school near Ellington maybe that's not something we sell right off the bat because maybe in the future at some point we might need to resurrect that as um as a school you know et cetera I'm not sure is that I know I can go on Google Maps and do it but I just was curious about that yeah it sounds like we can we can generate a map that has it would look similar to this one I think right but would show where the existing operational schools also sit okay sure sure showed in a different color so that it was clear which are which any other questions yeah question has the district given any thought because like Central Kitchen right now is it Slauson which if it was to be eliminated so like you know like if we're gonna do Sierra you know are there any plans to move it an updated upgraded since we're doing scratch cooking and hiring you know um is that in the Indian plans there's definitely a dream of that that request and I think need has been discussed um and again this is super duper early but like an idea is if we're gonna if we were to run with the idea of giving Sierra its own school this is an example um maybe that's the site of the Central Kitchen as well but now you have students and you have a Central Kitchen well then maybe we can start uh offering to our students uh culinary experiences or work experiences uh because we have a full-blown operational uh Central Kitchen so yes that and and other other things that we have talked about and again kind of discussed um again right now early we're going to be together for for quite a bit uh but we'll keep bringing more refined uh ideas and as the boards begins to also show some of their interests and some we'll make sure to communicate those as well but yes that has been brought up so you did say just to clarify that you're going to look at the most feasible uh with respect to the the land that you keep with respect to the modernization if you will still tell us what's been modernized so you look at the cost I don't know I'm not an economic or realtor you know what I'm talking about yeah okay anyone else any any other pieces of information or data that you don't have yet that you want to put in a request for we have the map information about the school facilities conditions anything else you think is there any preliminary thoughts I don't think no I don't think there's any there's any thoughts quite yet I mean um you know I think all the sites at this point are equally open to to whatever you know uses the committee recommends and the board decides on open okay thank you for that presentation and discussion um on to 6.1 which is discussion of the next scheduled meeting it's scheduled for May 17 2023.
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um we're okay in that situation we would pay it out in October of 23 because we're going to make sure that at least the staff that comes back stays with us nine weeks before we give it to you if you give it to somebody on the first of August they could turn around and walk and they got the money plus they walk this way at least they stay through the first quarter right there you go um we're also looking at a two percent uh that should be a one-time two percent I apologize for the typo there a stipend wow I typed that one up real bad a girl stipend uh what that means is if the district goes by 200 kids that we would go ahead and use that growth money because we're paying on current year funding as a stipend so it doesn't go into operational expenses it's a one-time payment to staff um out of the new budget capacity because we grew by 200 kids we're hoping to incentivize people to make sure we're working to keep kids in the system two years ago we did this and we paid it out this year we did this and we didn't pay it out it's no harm to the overall budget because it's predicated on growth and if the growth doesn't come doesn't hurt us if the growth does come then we're taking out of the growth so it really doesn't affect the numbers I showed you a few minutes ago and so and that's not a whole lot of districts are doing doing that so I think that becomes a selling point we'll continue the 800 performance pay for certified administrative staff the certified staff that 800 comes out of classroom site fund before it used to be a lot higher because but we took most of that money into the base so for an overview on raises and then I'll take any questions the certified staff at four percent what what's that got a question no I I'll wait okay sorry um I've only split it out for you because portion of it is through classroom ciphon CSF is classroom I do have a question okay this um performance pay to the certified and administrator is that 301 301 for the for the certified for the administrator remember you guys approved it as an 800 that's that's it's the format's the same but that's not MMO so this this isn't the 301 right here the 800.
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and I get a motion to approve that meeting date motion to approve seconded Johnny Lou gave a emotion and Corazon second all in favor bye bye I'll opposed the motion has passed and can I get a motion to adjourn the meeting at 6 32. Aaron rugley makes a motion to adjourn the meeting Sam Perdomo seconds thank you all in favor aye aye any of those meeting all right thank you
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yes 800 is 301 for the certified staff the funding source is is 301 for certified staff okay for administrative staff it's out of mnl okay so then but did we not did they not have it Go mostly into the base salary yes and so what you have is we put last year into the base salary of the four thousand dollars that we're getting 3200 went into the base salary the remaining 800. okay is they're getting it this year and then we'll continue to give it to them next year so a lot of districts reduced it down to a number we kept 800 I didn't know of a district that went down to 100 I know another District did 500. it's just a way to raise the salaries okay so the cost to mno is a little over 443 thousand the 276 is the cost to classroom site fund so I I differentiate that just so you can have an idea um we're spending more time on Amino but I don't want to mix the two and then think the cost is higher than it really is the four percent for administration is a hundred thousand the exempt support staff is 50.
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