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Madison others are very capable say Boulder of the interesting to know how we stack up against them I think we can do that the other general question I have is try to I think for all of us better understand priorities and spending a question that I have is well let me start my understanding is that because expenses are generally been increasing faster than revenue that in at least relative to the general fund we're talking about a zero-sum game so if we say we want more spending for X then it's gonna take money away from y is that generally true within the job the general fund that's generally true okay so one of the questions that I have in that regard is how is the administration and council looking specifically at outcomes - and relative to its goals in defining what its spending should be for example in looking at your presentation ahead of time I saw as you pointed out that safety services are roughly 50% of the city spending and I looked online there's a website called city raiding and I assume they pull data from the public domain and I look just at serious crime and for example property crime and Ann Arbor is down roughly 45 percent since 2000 1999 were well below the national average like 30 percent below the national average also below the Michigan average violent crime is down roughly thirty percent from the same time frame and were maybe a third of the national average at least according to this site so a question that I would have is you know take serious school city crime property crime serious crime take whatever you have how does counsel look at those outcomes in the determined priorities based on objective measures and not just from what I saw from the materials that were posted for the work session looking at the citizens survey and using that to drive priorities so if you want to focus on public safety or in general most of our general fund cost or our labor and while we have increased some period some staff positions over the last couple years it really hasn't been that significant so we have kept our workforce fairly stable we are a much leaner organization than most if not all of our peer cities so I think that's a benefit to us we've negotiated fair contracts with our with our unions particularly Public Safety and to the credit of our firefighters and police officers they have been good and willing partners and striking fair deals with us we have changed the nature of our pension plan to long-term limit our liability we chose to have some short-term concerns we have seen benefits from our wellness program where our exposure rates for medically related accidents are much lower and have resulted in some rebates to the city on the public safety side which is the majority of the general fund our police department also is pretty lean the average number of officers per thousand residents for a comparable city and somewhere around 1.7 we're at 1.05 when you throw in the university police it rings up about 1.1 so our players have to use data to assign resources and I think they've done that very very well they're very we are also very good at getting reimbursement for big events that occur on the fire side we just did a firehouse location study and we can cover almost the entire scent of the city within the four minute response time that's the NFPA standard and the entire city in six minutes that's fairly remarkable as a result you've seen reductions in fire related losses on property and we haven't had a fire related death in many many years there's a problem that that's kind of correlation not causation but it's it's hard hard to go between those two on the on an on public safety side I think we've done a good job of leveraging it and you know p.m.
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other people's money we've been very focused on the things that we want to do and we've been very careful in the assignment of resources getting back to fire real quick and I want to give chief Kennedy some shoutouts we work together to reduce the general fund burden for fire inspections that saved us half a million dollars a year in general fund money and Mike worked on our assignment of fleet vehicles for fire and that saved us and their 250,000 a year in general fund money so we're continuing to do those kind of improvements as well the long-term goal is to balance the rate of cost growth with the rate of revenue growth so that we don't have a structural imbalance in the budget and as we do that over time with some prudent and neighborhood sensitive economic development I think we can grow the revenue to where we can bring on some of the additional programs but the short term goal is to eliminate that structural deficit that's built in where you know the revenues have been going up by a percent or percent a half-an-hour cost by over two percent I think we can balance that out and I think we've got through this year maybe a one-year anomaly you don't know but part of it is is prudent development and leveraging a property that we have I guess what I'm driving at is you know flip it so it could be either way that if we're meeting our targets or even overachieving at targets in some area then maybe we don't increase the rate of spending as much in that area or even freeze it or cut it back and use that for other emerging priorities and that could be taking the examples that I said if for example these were the crime rates were exceeding our targets then maybe we don't grow the the safety services budget as much and we use that for water improvement or potholes or whatever could be the other way around if we are over achieving our goals let's say in greenhouse gas reductions then maybe we should not put as much money there and use that for something else it could go either way but it'd really be driven by outcomes in defining our spending priorities as opposed to just looking at the NCS or whatever National Citizen survey or other more subjective measures so again the general fund is where Council has the most flexibility and right assigning funds I think we've taken steps and we'll continue to take steps to use the data that we have to assign resources appropriately we are going to do an enhanced job of reporting on metrics and putting those metrics in context so that each year when we do every other year we do the budget plan we can marry those up to what we get back from from citizen surveys and really come up with a strong plan things like doing capital preventive maintenance over the long term will decrease the amount of money we have to spend on road repairs as an example it generally cost about $50,000 per Lane mile to do a preventative maintenance treatment it cost upwards of over half a million dollars of Lane mile to do major rehabilitation so by putting money out on a consistent basis we can extend the life of those assets one of the things counsel did last year does they adopted an asset management approach where we are starting to put funds away for the capital reinvestment we have to make in our facilities our parks as well our budget doesn't respond well to perturbations big ups and down so if we have an incident where the air conditioning goes out on this building we should have funds set aside to address that and not have to pull money from somewhere else so I think we're doing all the right things to become more resilient as an organization and keep our fixed costs down so that we can make those decisions based on the needs in the community year to year in the case of all the dedicated funds have we now pretty well eliminated the structural deficit problems in them water sewer storm these are all now very healthy well stormwater fund as you know a couple years ago I had a pretty big in percentage-wise and I really cost-wise increase in in the rate that's allowed us to and allowed us to reinstitute a cyclist maintenance plan for our urban forests as an example and I think the stormwater side is it will be in good shape there was an increase in sewer rates that council approved on second reading on my on Tuesday that increase will allow us to make sure there we don't run afoul of our debt service coverage on the debt from the wastewater treatment plant upgrade but hopefully will also allow us to start doing preventive maintenance on our sanitary sewer system and then on the water side the big thing that's out there is we need to upgrade the plant that's that's what's going to drive rates so on the enterprise funds they are in better shape because they can address their their needs through adjustments of rates on the general fund we get into restrictions the states impose through you know Headley and prop a and a growth of of rates and by the way I think we all are concerned about the impact of rising taxes on people's ability to stay in their homes and keep their homes affordable so there is a positive side to that so from a policy standpoint we want to address at the state level to have some more flexibility some of the things that will be in the policy agenda are things like perhaps ticket taxes on big events that occur in town that aren't directly related to university operations that may be something and actually I've shared that with with some folks at the University there are some ways to better leverage the monies we get the through some capital investment we can reduce our operating costs for energy by taking facilities off of DT power maybe and using more renewable sources as well so I think on the enterprise side we're wearing we're in good shape we have the ability to put money aside for the needs that we have I do have a concern that's been a little bit more forward-looking that as more and more vehicles you use battery power if you will you know art road work through fact 51 is funded by gas taxes we were a little bit at odds with ourselves by trying to get more money for roads but at the same time trying to reduce the amount of fossil fuels that are used that's a long-term problem from a policy perspective we're going to have to address and it you know it may be that we wind up with a fee that's based on miles driven that's going to require some collaboration at the state and the federal level so that's a long-winded answer your question to your question the question is yeah we're okay on the on the enterprise operations we're working on the general fund so I have one other question which I doubt a lot of people understand but you probably can illuminate it very well we've been building a lot of very tall buildings in the city which have very likely a significantly higher tax income to the city than a four-story building would have is this really helping our tax income is balancing out I mean is it really a genuine financial value to the city to have these tall buildings yeah so property its property what you can build on your property is based on the zoning okay and so if there are things that are done is owned D one where you go up 180 feet you can do that I think clearly you know in revenues that are the property times the military so the higher value of the property the more tax revenue that will get the schools looking at the county you'll get the libraries will get so if you build a big building that has a lot of units that are rated well you'll get more money out of it I'll go back to one of my favorite quotations which is I think Oscar Wilde quotation that the cynic is a person who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing we need to address community values as we look at development the goal is not to what's the goal we have is it to optimize revenues to the city or is it to optimize quality of life and that is why you have some very esteemed knowledgeable educated and dedicated public servants as your counsel to bake to debate that policy issue I have a word of encouragement to my other commissioners the administrator I think knows my priorities but I think it'd be interesting since it says here you would like to know our priorities no one's spoken up yet with environmental or general sustainability spending priorities I think well thanks thanks means segue I think dr.
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Selina Lazarus came we want you to share your priorities I'm gonna jot them down and then we are gonna carry them over to our work planning session next month so John recites lead everybody knows mine so I've encouraged others to speak well I'll toss a few out I'm certainly finding a way to get a functional MuRF here whether that's a regional or city owner what it what it looks like but making that happen as soon as possible would certainly be one of mine and as you had on one of your slides expanding organic side a year round and throughout the downtown another big one I'm very thrilled to see doctor's thoughts begin to talk about a community outreach program that works with neighborhoods a number of channels energy storm water retention called out in 2004 was in the city's natural features master plan an outreach program to educate and encourage and work with people to teach them what natural features they have in their neighborhood and how to steward them better and I'm genuinely hopeful that outreach program that she builds includes that component allowed to talk on this table about toxics and energy but a big oak tree sequester's more carbon than many other things that we might be able to do and if we have a lot of oak trees including a whole lot of young ones in this city we'll be doing a very fine thing for the climate I hope so I'm interested in making more investments toward equity pairing equity and energy together I like the things that are happening with the solar power I like the idea of electrifying housing units I'd be interested in looking at an electric car sharing program like Los Angeles is done I think all of those things are really worthwhile thank you I'd like to add on what Bob said and really more than just an operating Merc but really looking at Ann Arbor as being a leader in waste management I think we all like to reflect on the fact that 20 years ago we were but the fact is is that we're it were not now and hopefully through this process of regionalization that will happen but I like I say that that idea of being able to be a something we can all be proud of as a city is it's certainly something that has intangible values but values nonetheless have yet the opportunity to participate in the stakeholder group for the solid waste resource management plan there's some really interesting numbers in there that on one hand would say that we're actually as a community doing very well in some areas we have on a apples to apples comparison basis we actually have a pretty high diversion rate and it's remain constant and the cost of achieving that diversion rate for us is a lot lower than it is in some of our pure cities and that does not take into account the fact that we have a bottle law here that keeps some of what would normally be a recyclable out of the waste stream the interest of the MER Farrar have been I mean the community to a certain extent has been very patient about how long it's taking us to retool it but the market is different than it was 20 years ago you know there's less paper the markets are different particularly last year with the international sales of materials being being basically cratering having said that we do need to have a facility that allows us to have more direct contact and lesser travel distance with those materials re-entering the the manufacturing stream and I think there's some opportunities to do that as well but long-term really a part of it is looking at how do we reduce consumption and that ties to miss Hutton's concern about equity about having people have greater access to fresh and nutritious food with less packaging so there are a lot of things as a community we're gonna have to make some decisions about a aggressive pay as you throw approach is something that will provide further stimulus for people to reduce the amount of things that they throw out you know recycling like other utilities is that odds with itself financially because as you can serve and consume less of a commodity the actual organization providing it has lower revenues so as we try and reduce the amount that people throw away we wind up on a page your throw basis with less revenue so we have to solve that that conundrum as well but I really hope over the coming year to get the merv off center stage as the feature that people are focused on and really talk about how we can be what we say we are and live our values going into the future it just feels like impending doom scenario that a lot of people that I talk to you feel like we don't have a lot of control over in terms of how its moving what we know about it it just seems to be changing like people predict and then it changes and what really are our options in terms of dealing with it when it hits our pond you know which is 80% of our drinking water so I would like to understand that more and really see what the potential strategies could be for us to be able to deal with it so that's one piece and the other is I'm thrilled to see this sheet that has all these Allen Creek projects and what's coming and I I work on this in my own professional life too but I walk by West Park every day and probably every other day I smell a strong smell of gasoline coming out of the the grate and I know the city knows about this and but it just reminds me all the time that despite all the good work that has been going on with stormwater in that Creek that there's still a long way to go and that I think we have some big incentive with the development that will be coming along the Broadway bridge because they hope to be able to have some areas where people can access the water with that and that is directly downstream of where that comes out and as opposed to the cascade which is just upstream of where that comes out so I am hoping that we can start to drill down on some of those last remaining pieces of point pollution that are coming in there so that we can feel okay about putting our feet in the water where it comes out a couple of hundred feet where it finally hits daylight again so that those are my two priorities thank you active assets a consideration that hasn't arisen anyway in a conversation so appreciate you bringing that up is something that we need to address I sure the concerns about the mark and about solid waste management and but I also have a concern about the tree line versus a Greenway option some to me the tree line seems over engineered in a sense because the true benefit I would think for many citizens have told me that the true benefit would be opening up green space you know to especially as the downtown development as the high-rises go up you know you need to provide more of the natural features or more of a natural pathway to for example West Park so instead of building it all the way you know connecting downtown to the river and to West Park I would hope would be rethought as a priority for a great way rather than continuing that development over basically sidewalks in a cityscape for several blocks to the south thank you yeah two thoughts one a general one I just want to reiterate support for the sustainability plan that was introduced last fall and unanimously supported by the environmental energy Commission's and that we continue through our funding discussions to think about that as a plan and not just look at particular parts of that but that we approach this as a plan the other issue just a question that always bothers me as we take more about electric vehicles and that hopefully has that expanse for thinking about what is the energy source for those vehicles if it's coal-fired electricity we're not really gaining anything without getting too far ahead of ourselves we do have some inspirational plans to increase the available of renewable sources of energy for city operations wonderful and I think as those things develop don't you know not not to be secretive but some just things just aren't ready for primetime and that's what you as we get through them appreciate both the questions you can put in the relationship that we have as well as their dedication to serving the community I wish more of you would have had the opportunity to come out Saturday for the recognition event for our boards and commissions but I can tell you now that we've taken the first step we'll do it again so thank you for your service to the city thank you thank you very much next up Brian Stieglitz is here from the city to give us a presentation on PFS contamination and also I think address dioxane well thank you for the invitation to come talk to you I think this is gonna help you I'm hoping I'm a little more success than this okay thank you all right I got it so I'm here to talk to you about a few things tonight this a majority of this talk or parts of it came from a presentation that I did the City Council did for City Council on September 17th on updating them on emerging issues related to water quality primarily soapy fossil was one of them we also talked about a couple other items but tonight I'm gonna focus primarily on pee fuss and then I'm gonna talk a little bit about where we are on what I can share about 1 4 dioxane and then all some opportunities to answer some questions if you have any so I don't want to spend too much time on this but I think most of you are probably familiar with this topic a little bit on what our pee fuss there's been a lot in and live and in the news and the media has been following this pretty rigorously over the past Oh probably a couple years now but these are per and Polly four Oh alcohol substances they're used in a lot of products that we use every day some pictures on the slide whether it's a Teflon pan fabric softeners food wrappers dental floss things that we're coming into contact with regularly fire fighting foam is also another major source of pee fuss um they're very stable these chemicals they do not break down they have a very long half-life in the environment in our bodies our bodies don't break them down which is why they can have health impacts at such low concentrations and there are many thousands of these chemicals that are being used every day and new ones are being introduced into our environment and our watersheds we currently have analytical tech to test for only 24 of them and that is what we are currently doing so how did the how to pee fast impact public health we have a fair bit of data now on two of these chemicals one is the acronym is P fos and the other is pfoa and those are the ones you've probably heard most about ingestion is the primary route of exposure from a health standpoint so you can get it on your skin it's not doesn't really have an impact I'll talk a little bit more about that with some of the River contact issues it is bio accumulative which is one of the issues with the why there's a do not fish eat fish advisory owner here in Louisville because it's accumulated up in the fish species that are in the river identified here some health impacts cholesterol it could infect your immune system increase in cancer risk so there's sort of an assortment of things that PFS can help they can impact your health we also we have some data on some other ones recently there's been some health information that's come out on Gen X which is a proprietary brand that P Fuss P FBS is another one so every day we're learning more and more about these chemicals and more information is getting out into the public environment so it's quite a dynamic space that we're working in related to these chemicals how are they regulated so currently they're not regulated in drinking water in Michigan they are regulated on from a clean up standard and I'll talk a little bit more about that in a little bit the EPA has a health advisory level for these when you add the two chemicals that I've talked about PFOA and PLoS together the Health Advisory and this is a lifetime health advisory so it's not an acute it's if you're drinking a certain amount of water you're two liters of water every day for 70 years you're more at risk for having the health impacts that I talked about in the previous slide if you're exposed to more than 70 parts per trillion or nanograms per liter of a combination of those two chemicals so that has been in effect since 2017 they're also recently in December of 2018 the governor pulled together a science advisory board and they just came out with a report related to pee fuss in Michigan and it has indicated and there's a lot of literature indicates currently that 70 is probably not the right number and a problem we should be lower so that's something that we're also trying to understand and get our grip around here in Michigan and in Ann Arbor there's a report that came out by this agency for toxic substances disease that indicates maybe more like 7 and 11 or appropriate numbers target so we should check for for those two compounds currently in Michigan there is a proposal in the legislature to regulate these two at five and five so five parts per trillion for P Foss and five parts per trillion for PFOA so we're following that and tracking that and seeing if that's going to have get support so we talked a little bit about drinking water the source of this is our is our surface water so we obviously tested all of our drinking water sources well and River and unfortunately our well water does not have P FS in it but the river or does the wastewater that comes from our wastewater plant does primarily a place that's coming from the drinking water the fish I've already mentioned that and I'll talk a little bit more about do not eat fish advisory and firefighting foam fortunately we've had some great conversations with Chief Kennedy and Ann Arbor has already gone to flurry and free firefighting foam so we've disposed of all the one the firefighting foam that contained PFS that had they had in stock and now they're using fluorine free and he chief Kennedy has also been an advocate with some of his peers so we think that's a really positive stuff because we wanted to make sure that people are aware of this issue and can prevent these chemicals from getting into our watershed so in Ann Arbor we've been monitoring these for several years now we are currently the slide says currently monitoring monthly but at the direction from the city administrator we are now monitoring bimonthly so twice a month we're getting samples of our source water and our finished water and we're also posting all that information on our website so our customers can see if they have questions about what the water quality is the maximum detection was was several years ago in 2018 and 2017 we tip we've been below 10 for the combination of these two chemicals in the drinking water but recently in the end of 2018 there was a spike in the river that got a little bit of press and our finished water levels were above that probably be somewhere between 10 and 20 parts per trillion we have we're using granular activated carbon at the plant and I'll talk a little bit more about that in a minute but that currently is the best available technology for municipal drinking water treatment to address these chemicals so we're fortunate to have that available to us and be using that at the water treatment plant to address this in 2017 we looked at an alternate granular activated carbon material not all granular activated carbon are created equally and the manufacturer who we were using had identified one that has been affected effective at removing pfosten pifo so we decided to pilot that in a couple of our filters we worked with the MD QD @ permission to make some changes and over the course of several you know about six to nine months we found that this was very effective at bringing our P phos and P FOA levels down to non detectable levels so staff recommended a City Council at the end of 2018 to implement this in all of our filters and they had the foresight to allow us to make that investment and they approve the the financing in order to make that happen and we're in the process of implementing that currently so we've done about a third of our capacity we have 26 filters we've done a third of them we're going to be doing the balance of our filters over the next in the spring over the next several months so then we will have now this media in all of our filters so we think that's a really positive step in addition we're participating in research that's going on right now we're going to be part of some work with North Carolina State as part of a Water Research Foundation grant to look at what types of technologies can be effective at removing the shorter chain P Foss compounds so those are the ones where that granular activated carbon is not as effective at removing so it's something that we're also excited to be part of if you look at the sort of the timeline how we got to where we are today you know - that was it started really in 2009 when there was a provisional health advisory and you can see the the levels were in the hundreds of nanograms per liter you know since then there's been a lot of research done there were some provisional surface water criteria identified in Michigan in 2010 wordsmith air force based at a fish study in 2012 and they found very high concentrations of these chemicals in in fish you can see the numbers are in the tens of thousands of parts per billion so this is not parts per trillion but a thousand times greater so quite high levels again they Bayou accumulate and then in 2013 is when the surface cluttered criteria were put in place and those are currently regulatory those are the regulatory levels that currently exist in Michigan so 11 nano grams per liter if you're discharging into a water supply that is a drinking water source which the Huron River is considered and 12 if you are discharging into a non drinking water surface water supply the wife hime health advisory was in 2017 I sort of talked about that already and part was formed in 2017 also men part is Michigan's pifo section response team and they there's a lot of great things that they've been involved with and trying to coordinate a lot of state government activities together under one hat to address this issue I'll talk a next slide a little bit ups what some of the data that they've generated come up with and then in 2018 is when these drinking water criteria were established by MBQ again it's not regulated it's guidance but they're asking utilities to attempt to achieve this less than 70 nano grams per liter and their drinking water for these two compounds so what this slide illustrates is some of the results of the EM parts work so they took the initiative to test all drinking water supplies community drinking water supplies and schools in the state of Michigan no other state has done that has but taking such an aggressive approach to address PFS and there were three buckets that they divided that the results ended up in so we're one of the the participants there's almost 1,400 community water supplies in the state and two of them had concentrations of PFS one community water supply and one school greater than 70 the community water supply was parchment if you heard about them and now they're connected to the Kalamazoo system so they are not part of their own self sufficient water system anymore so that the some degree problem has been addressed we're in this middle bucket of this 10 to 70 and there's we're in there with about 45 of our peers maybe 30 community water supplies they're just under who have in this range of 10 to 70 parts per trillion of P Fossen p fo and they're drinking water so now transitioning to talk a little bit about the the river and what we're seeing from the fish standpoint the MDEQ uses this 300 parts per billion as a trigger for P Foss to issue and do not eat fish advisories so you can see there are several samples along the watershed Kent Lake baseline lake Argo pond all have fish baseline late it's really close but above basically 300 parts per billion that's the reason why when when they when these analytical results were analyzed by the state is why they indicated that the stretch of the Huron had to do not eat fish advisory question sure those are parts per billion before we were talking about parts that's correct that's correct so the for for fish and consumption it's 300 parts per billion this this chart shows and it's sort of difficult to see maybe for the viewers but you the red dots the big red dots are the higher concentration and you can see along the if you remember stretch up towards Milford there's a couple big red dots so those are quite high concentrations of pea Foskey fos in the Huron River and the next slide will zoom in on that a little bit so we have some results that are you know over 5,000 nanograms per liter remember we're talking about at the drinking water side single digits so it's several orders of magnitude higher so we you know based on these results in june/july to 2018 we see well there's obviously some source here and the eq has been pretty aggressive in researching what this is there's a creek that enters the Huron River there it's called Norton Creek and the wixen wastewater treatment plant discharges into that Creek and they found that that that Wixon wastewater treatment plant was a significant source of PFS and the the source to the Wixom wastewater treatment plant is a company called tribe are there many metals manufacturer and they use these chemicals as part of their process so there's been some a fair bit of aggressive work that's been happening since this was found out tri-bar has put in granular activated carbon treatment at one of their plants it's discharging into the Wixom race water treatment plant and that's been effective at removing these long-chain the PF OS and the PFOA a just like it's effective at our treatment plant it's effective for them but we're continuing to work with the MDEQ to determine if there's other sources in this area and also our concern about the other p fuss because we know that even though the health impacts haven't really been identified yet and we're we're just we want to be concerned about any any of these chemicals getting into our watershed so we're we're aggressively working with mue q to help address that issue help us address that issue i guess one last thing about foam p foss like to enter the state of foam and we have a lot of dams on the river there's surfactants so they sort of they get in foam they concentrate so we had collected some data on what the levels of the p FS were in the foam and it's you know in the thousands of parts per trillion so high and at that so once we had that data available to ourselves available we shared that and we have a do not eat foam advisories not that many people are going down to the river d the foam but and we told them it's probably wise to avoid that also contact with pets and things like that because the concentrations are elevated in the foam and that's pretty common and that's something that we've seen around the state had a lot of other facilities so that is my quick PFS update can anyone have any questions or I can move right on 2 1 4 dioxane yep yeah I have some questions um first one is is there a plan I think I'm part originally planned to test some private wells drinking water walls that were near the river is that ongoing as well I don't know about their plans to test private wells we can we can investigate whether that's the case it yeah I don't imagine any city residents have private wells is that true um that is true and how about I know in Europe at least table there's a probe but there's many countries have programs where wastewater treatment plants sludge and water releases are being tested do you know if the state has any plans to do that in the future yeah there our wastewater plant has been sampling so that that's trailing a little bit of the on the drinking water side but bio solids is another place that they're looking at does PFS concentrate so they're starting to collect the analytical data on that currently oh good no thanks some dumb one other question is um I know and part had plans to examine manufacturing sites that might be releasing some 150 or so manufacturing sites statewide so they were saying they would really set data by the end of January last I heard do you have an update on that I don't have an update on that okay and then just one last question hmm sorry and that is um unity as you know with these shorter chain P fast compounds it's it's very expensive to use these LC ms/ms methods to test for each individual compound so many countries in Europe are using another assay that's really very cheap just to fight for any organic fluorine compounds it's called combustion ion chromatography so it can be I think it can be piggybacked on top of regular fluoride analysis so I would I was wondering if there were any plans to use that as kind of a backup testing even though they're not regulated right you could start getting some baseline data for the presence of the shorter chain compounds or other things that aren't being measured out of that Tom I think it's EPA 537 so right now our analytical work that we're doing is is compliant with what the EPA approved method is so we're using that I'm not familiar with the technique that that you're like we can we can clearly investigate what might be available to us as part of the research that we're participating in with North Carolina State they are looking at new analytical techniques and they may be similar to the what you're describing to do it faster and right now the turnaround time of us getting results can be three to four weeks so we're not really getting timely information so there's a lot of challenges with what current analytical capabilities are yeah this is technically a much easier and cheaper assay so I could send you the scientific references okay so yeah please do thank you it's a clarifying question I think the DEQ and M part and your group are doing the sampling so we are doing sampling of our source water and finished water twice a month and that's the city city of Ann Arbor at the city harbors expense the state the Huron River is waters of the state so DEQ in partnership with M part it's the DEQ M part is just an umbrella for several state agencies they are doing the analytical testing along the stretches of the Huron so all of the data that I just shared on upstream Norton Creek Milford Wixom that's all MDEQ sampled and issue sampling and the tissue sampling is also by the state correct and our source water is Barton pond or where do you what's what is actually our source water our source of waters Barton fund yeah I'd like to piggyback on Commissioner Browns comments so um I knew that toxins are regulated much more tightly in Europe under reach then they are under Tosca in the US so I did a little bit of research and looked at what is going on in Europe and I worked for a European company so I thought well look somewhere else in the world and I'm wondering if we're doing that here locally both at two levels in terms of addressing root causes and secondly in terms of treatment and in terms of root cause I mean the root cause basically is that industry as you said fire departments are still using this chemical and what I was at least able to see in the public domain is that in Europe both P foss and P fo are both banned where for p fo there it won't be enforced until 2020 but essentially the ban is in place so one of the things that I would encourage the city to do is to take a position with the state through resolution or through our lobbying efforts to say let's not just keep on putting band-aids on this but let's do what the Europeans did and that is get rid of these chemicals out of the environment I mean that's something that you personally can't do but we have council people here and it seems to me that's something that we really should be doing otherwise we're gonna be talking about this because as you said these are persistent chemicals and their bio accumulative so you know we're gonna be dealing with these things for a long time and the sooner that we really address the root cause the better off I think we're gonna be and you should verify what I said but that's what I could tell the other thing is from a treatment perspective I'm wondering what other highly developed countries in the world are doing in terms of treatment I'm guessing that the better companies that are providing these treatments know what's going on internationally but that might be worthwhile checking to see what kind of technologies they're using I think Steve mentioned that there seem to be some other promising technologies out there you know what are they doing in Japan what are they doing in Europe I mean these are highly industrialized countries they they have gotten rid of these and they obviously must be treating them somehow - and I would only suggest that we possibly look in those two directions and I don't have any answers I just have good proposes it's potentially alternative ways of approaching the problem I had a question about the communications I'm at I'm really glad we're monitoring it bimonthly now I'm putting that up on the website and I know we have those little signs by the out by the river saying you know don't eat the fish but I could are there any plans to put our bimonthly report up digitally by the river like at the canoe liveries we have not had that conversation so it's something that we could consider real quickly Shannon and I and people from the yeren River watershed Council are gonna be meeting with city staff about signage about watershed health and putting out some information about what is the health of our watershed and what actions people can take and potentially we could include that kind of information in that information and it could be updated that regularly so we'll be meeting I think end of the month I think idad Brian has asked about getting some additional dedicated support to help in messaging I think hopefully he's convinced you that technically we're doing we're at the leading edge but communicating in this environment can be a challenge because you want to be transparent open but you don't want to incite true public panic I don't think we can count on the media to help us in that regard so [Music] I'm gonna take the incursion from his banister we're going to provide that support and do it in a way that is honest but also doesn't leave you just you know it's you know trust in government these days is not at its highest and we want to make sure that we do things in a way that inspires trust and confidence one lets people know that we are protective and we are delivering a safe reliable source of water I just have a comment about contextualizing and me it seems to me that one of the things that might be useful to residents is knowing that these are so ubiquitous that even when you're testing you can't use certain sunscreens and you can't use certain you know toothpaste I mean this is everywhere and so even when we see these things and they're alarming contextually in everything that we encounter every day it's not significant and it's not it's not super significant and that knowing that I think would be really useful I don't think people have that since and my second question is if the city is having any reaction to the state having passed the bill that raises the cleanup rate is there is there any action that the city can take to try to counter that I'm not really prepared to discuss that tonight I think we're I think we're still trying to understand what that means and how that impacts all of the things that we're involved in so I just don't think we have answers yet but it's weird it's on our radar for sure to dioxin okay the next one topic thank you for that I'm not sure I'm gonna be able to answer all of your questions on this topic but I'm gonna do my best and maybe we can come back if appropriate to hopefully answer the questions and I'm able to answer but I provided a quart of an update to the administrator which he shared with counsel at the end of last quarter and my intention is to move forward with quarterly updates on the progress and this the few slides here are extracted from that last update so it bear with me it's just some statistics but in terms of the monitoring of water supply wells so these are people who are using water for drinking water and this is not in Ann Arbor proper mostly in sigh o Township but 67 wells were sampled in the last quarter no Wells had detectable levels above the seven point two which is the current cleanup standard that the e key was using two wells show had detectable levels they were in the one to two parts per billion and they were on the south side near Elizabeth Road where fourteen and ninety four intersect so the Gilman has a plant they're extracting water you know around-the-clock the extracts about four hundred and seventy gallons per minute of contaminated groundwater it's pumped to their facility where they have treatment they use ozone and hydrogen peroxide to remove the dioxane so there's low concentrations still in the effluent but probably in the single-digit range during the the May to September period of 2018 they treated over 81 million gallons and removed 282 pounds of 1 4 dioxane from the from the plume this is a picture of sort of the limits of a couple things I guess I'll point out if you haven't been familiar with looking at that in the upper left-hand corner of the slide all of those dots those are all private wells so people who are still using on their private wells and there is no evidence yet of contamination at those locations that read sort of line that goes around that's the prohibition zone so that's the no we're not extracting any groundwater in that area because and that's legally identified by the courts as this area is prohibited from groundwater extraction you'll see a lot of circles in there that have sort of a white and black symbol and those are monitoring well so you can see there's a lot of monitoring wells within the zone where Gelman is extracting data and we're collecting data to identify the limits and how this plume is migrating the the plume is moving I think as you are all aware towards the Huron River you can see it's sort of moving towards the east and the different colors you'll see sort of the beiges yellowish color is the one part per billion contour and then inside of that is the 85 parts per billion contour so it gets concentrated obviously as you go further towards the source where you know this is something that we're tracking as the data comes in regularly several many times I don't think they're sampling some of these quarterly some of it may be more frequently than that but we're looking at the data we're watching the migration boom clearly from the city of Ann Arbor's interests we're concerned as commissioner did Randall mentioned about our water supply so we're looking is there any ma is there any migration northward towards Barton pond of this plume and so that's clearly the city is very interested in watching that and monitoring that so that's sort of an overall picture some of the some additional sampling that's happened in the recent future in the last quarter there's been a sort of a renewed or a new attention towards shallow groundwater and surface water so there was a fair bit of testing analytical testing that went on in 16 sites with groundwater within 20 feet of the surface was were tested two sites had detectable levels but they were below EPA's regional screening level of 4.6 parts per billion also 18 surface water locations were sampled a eighth of them eight out of the 18 showed detectable levels of dioxane between 2.1 and 19 the 19 is in Allen Creek drain so what's happening next well this the the state and the county are working together and they're putting together a sampling plan really the state is doing that with with involvement from the county to do some additional analytical testing at some of these locations so that's coming up in the next quarter or in the next three to six months they're working on that plan currently so there's additional testing that will help on maybe identify what the source of this is or and add some more clarity to this data so I don't I don't have a lot more to share because I don't think we have enough data to really understand this part of the situation yet obviously you're all aware that the city is involved in Wittig Asian so I'm not at liberty to talk about much more about what the city's role is and how that's all progressing but depending upon what additional questions you have it may we may need to consult with the city attorney about a future time about what we're able to share with the Commission and what we can that's my update on questions I have a couple one is that I remember early on they said oh it's so deep it's never gonna get close to the surface so what is your just current understanding of I mean I glaciation happened there's all kinds of crazy stuff going under the ground we cannot predict so but given that the data is showing otherwise of what you know people told us 15 years ago what is our current understanding of how it's just moving in ways that we didn't I think would happen I don't have an answer for that question I think we're we're wondering the same thing and we're gonna be looking at the data and we're gonna be looking at the new sample data and we'll be consulting with some of our consulting experts and try to get a handle on that so we can share with this group and others what our interpretation is but I don't think that there's consensus on that issue yeah then my other question and this relates to my role on Planning Commission too is there was quite a bit of controversy with some developments in the town on the west side that are fair close to the the original Gelman site and it's in relation to how we're dealing with strong our infiltration with the Gelman plume and we ended up passing the project but it became very clear that there are lots and lots of projects that are in this bloom with higher concentration and I don't know that we necessarily know what the implications of all of that mean and it would I would be really tough to think oh we're just not going to do any storm water infiltration anymore because of this this this issue but and and you're not gonna be able to answer this now but I guess I'm just putting it out there that this is we we've kind of been moving in this certain direction of stormwater infiltration for a long time and this is kind of a game changer if suddenly we have to think about that we could be accelerating a problem and so I just want to I guess comment that this is something that we really need to start to put some attention to because this has been a massive effort for our area and I think we've been leading this in a lot of ways in terms of how we're handling stormwater and sustainable water management and it kind of kills me to thinks it may be creating a problem with that too so you know I know maybe this is even a shout out to the University started thinking about research around this issue or something because you know we have all kinds of stormwater infiltration areas in the plume you know in the concentrated part of the plume we've talked a little bit about my participa Commission meeting when that conversation was brought up and I listened to the conversation around that and I we I agree we need to be prepared to be able to discuss that and address that issue at the time DEQ is their expert was here and he addressed it and his his position was is that it's not an influential on on migrating the poner accelerating the mobile meeting of the plume but you know that was his professional opinion and clearly there were others who didn't agree with that in the room so I think we to do some work in that area sure and then another just quick thing on and this is just my own understanding it's akin to contact versus ingestion in terms of dioxane what's the story on on that you you gave us some information on that with the PETA's chemicals and chemicals but what is this durian you know that's I know that the regional screening level incorporates ingestion dermal contact and inhalation so that's all captured in terms of that regional screening level but in terms of how its weighted across the different areas I don't know the answer to that all right thank you other questions yes yes it's been pretty stagnant at that level that's been the constant level thanks very much thank you thank you next item of business is solid waste regionalization vo Egremont from washington are here nice job with the name yes nailed it well thanks for having me here I'm excited to be presenting on the regional authority that is will be forming over the next couple months I've got commissioner Pratt and our legal attorney Bob Davis who is also here tonight the authority is pronounced warme that's the name the so I want to give you a little bit of a history of where this proposed Authority is coming from the County last year gathered stakeholders together to discuss issues surrounding recycling and what was going on in their communities out of that stakeholder engagement process one of the recommendations that came from that was an authority to be used as a tool to address some of those issues that people were discussing so an authority is a legal entity formed by two or more municipalities in order to manage solid waste or actually the enabling law also allows for a dog pound but we're going to solid waste route interesting fact for you and the authority is once it's formed the members who are part of that authority formed the vision form the priorities and they take it where they want to go so this authority can move as fast as the member authorities want to take it in gathering members from eight different communities on the eastern and central part of the county those members made it clear that this authority we will be focused on recycling and long term look to approach zero waste so echoing some of Howard's comments tonight that's the long-term vision the priorities that first steps that the members talked about were really addressing metrics let's look at what we've got let's try to get the divertible material out of the trash and move that to more appropriate streams in order to do that where I need a pretty serious engagement outreach activities focus on education and that's really where we want to put a lot of our first efforts that was very clear from members let's start with education and outreach we need to clean up our recycling increase the quantity and quality of those and then we've got a more marketable product so we want to clean the stream and through that once we've got our quantity and quality up then we can attract local processing so that's a something that everyone said we want to do we want to get to the point where we've got a marketable product we can attract a private hauler or private processing to be in this area also people are interested in drop-off stations we've got a need we did a study that looks at we have some opportunities to collaborate around let's get let's make it convenient for people to drop off hard to get rid of things TVs oil and ivory use those type of products so we need to through our education outreach produce clear and consistent messaging right now if you move from one place to another you've got different haulers that makes it very difficult we have to continually educate people if they move from one community to another with this our goal is to get a consistent here's what we can take in your recycling whether you're in any of these eight different communities so that way we can start to work on habits habits are hard to change this is one way that we can produce that without having to have people change their habits again and again and again so the benefits what's in this for everyone people talked about wanting to have more regional collaboration this is a very clear way to do that there's potential for reduced costs and improved services we can take advantage of economies of scale by pooling our efforts as well as our our dollars we have greater buyer power when you've got this municipality we'll have somewhere between two-thirds and three-fourths of the population of the county banded together when you do that you have much greater buyer power and working with haulers for both recycling or solid waste if that's the way that this authority would like to move also opportunity for optimized for routes for hauling you've reduced your greenhouse gas emissions you reduce the wear and tear on your roads and you can decrease costs which are passed from your hauler on to you lastly there is an option to withdraw so once members join the authority there is a process which stipulates by which members can get out of the Authority Bob Davis will talk a little bit about that after me so there is an opportunity to leave if the authority moves in a direction that Council is not satisfied with it if it no longer benefits you you have an opportunity to get out additionally there's an opportunity for other members surrounding the authority to be a customer or even within the boundaries we've had conversations with the universities early on in this process - who would like to be involved with it somehow so the universities are not municipalities they can't be Authority members they don't get a vote but they are engaged in the process and interested in the outcome of potentially a customer as this Authority progresses so with that I'll introduce Bob Davis who's our attorney he has extensive experience with authorities so I'll let him continue on thank you for the opportunity to be here a couple of different issues before I get to the authority mister mirskiy you had excellent questions on that p5 issue could I approach and just give him some information about a stewardship program that was developed where eight major manufacturers in the United States to stop the manufacturing and and interestingly a lot of the concern now is the stuff that is coming from other countries through the mane event manufacturing process what could I approach him just so he could have that article thank you the second thing I would like to mention is that I am the outside counsel who briefed and argued with your attorneys the intervention process into the Gillman case to work with to be in the case and without divulging any non-disclosure agreements I would advise you that your questions were very pointed and very accurate and I can tell you those are some of the major issues that are are being discussed your your comments and concerns are directly on point I I was sitting back there wanting to jump up and tell you so many things about what what's going on including major conference call tomorrow morning on the issues I just can't what your questions are right on track so good job I'm staying with that the the Constitution in Michigan we have students here right [Laughter] the Constitution in Michigan through its exact language and then down through its enabling laws likes for groups of municipalities and entities to get together and do things as a group that could be done singularly thinking that the economies and the benefits are better if you do things collectively garbage management trash management composting recycling are one of those areas of municipal involvement where the government strongly believes that unified groups do better than singularly so they do have their own enabling law on this topic which means that two or more can get together and form a group legally and lawfully if they follow a certain process of developing Articles of Incorporation and then filing them right and making sure everybody certifies them and everybody agrees to them and they're all unanimous and then you're on your way to being a lawful entity for the purposes of which you undertake so we do have that enabling act and by way of background I have represented the South Oakland County resource recovery authority since the year 2020 and we have 12 cities ranging from Berkeley down to troye alphabetically with unique characteristics unique development patterns royal oak is a lot different than Hazel Park which is different than Clawson and unique needs and unique developments and that that group has functioned in terms of waste collection disposal compost and recycling over the years when I joined in the year 2000 as as their attorney we were embarking on new contracts and one of the things we did was we took the geographic boundary which is about 75 square miles about I think it's about two hundred ninety thousand citizens and we came up with a mechanism for a new bid process where and we got rid of the division line between the communities so a person could bid on a chunk not a community a geographic chunk not a municipal boundary so the truck didn't have to turn around every time it hit the end of the street and we could have better routes when we when we did that process and we we went out for bids we ended up with very discrete waste hauling contracts and our rates went down by sixteen to twenty percent across the board with the various communities thereafter I led them into constructing a MuRF in Troy at our existing transfer facility I know Molly I arranged for her to have a private tour of the emerge it was Molly day at the MuRF and she saw the the operations firsthand and we did a big four and a half million dollar cart rollout where we rolled out carts with logos and we imprinted certain information on them and since we have not one year of a little over one year of data from our conversion to that process and our recycling is up 27 percent across the board in the communities there's no linear relationship between an increase and recycling and a decrease in the waste it is somewhat related but it's not it's not a one-for-one but we are doing a pretty good job on reducing our tonnage that is going to the landfill we have an entity who operates and helps us at the Murph we have a trucking company that trucks the materials out of the Murph and out of our transfer station so we also constructed a very state-of-the-art compost facility it's in Rochester we we haven't told Rochester it's there but it's in Rochester we haven't had one complaint in about 25 years we bought all state of the art equipment we tumble and mix that stuff and then we give it back to the communities to the dPW's and to the other maintenance organizations that's our first priority is to return the yard waste back to the community for community projects and development and that we sell the rest so when when I developed the MuRF and helped them develop the MuRF we developed the mirth MuRF in a fashion that when all of our waste would go when all of our recyclables would go there we would only be at 50% capacity so if I took everything the 12 communities had we'd be at 50 cent 50% capacity so now that a year is past we're going to market that availability and that funding is going to return back to the member communities so it is a system and I only bring that up to show you that it is a system that works we haven't had anyone leave we haven't had anyone withdraw we haven't had anyone not satisfied with what the Authority has been able to achieve when you look at the Articles we had you had great representation at at all of our meetings and it it was difficult because I came in with articles that were this big and said hey the enabling law says we can do all these things and now we're about here which I knew we would would probably do because all the different members who are going to potentially get involved had different thinking different thoughts so if you look at what we're proposing here we've defined very carefully what the purposes of this authority would be from its outset and we actually defined very carefully what it will not do and that was a big concern for many of the communities nobody wants to get involved in owning a landfill it's just not prudent probably not smart transfer stations a little less risky but maybe not within the appetite of some MuRF I think is a wonderful thing to have strategically located it's my opinion having worked on these issues for many years that a strategically located MuRF benefits the area as a whole ours are sits right in Troy which is three-quarters of the way up the southern Oakland company city chain and it's just perfect location the folks know it's there the drop-off centers are surrounding it the folks know where to go we put out a great messaging everybody in the 12 communities you could move from Birmingham to Troy from Troy to Clawson and the message on recycling is consistent there's no confusion there's no discrepancy on what's recyclable there's no confusion on the carts there's no confusion on what goes in and what doesn't go in and it really works well it really works well so the other things that came up during the course of negotiating and talking about these articles was the idea that voting under the proposed format we're suggesting each community one vote majority vote on most issues certain expenditures two-thirds certain expenditures back to the community's legislative body before it can be approved by the board so each community would have a representative this community would designate a delegate a representative to the board so if we had eight community involved we'd have eight board members and they would function as a board and make decisions with respect to the authority each community would have a certain buy-in of $5,000 to get things rolling and bring a green even among me wherever I go because he promised that he would match everybody's $5,000 so I don't let him drift far from the meetings so everybody would have five in everybody would get a five match that would happen for a couple of years and the articles would be in place we also put in a budget process which is actually not in my other articles but so that you would know the communities would know it in advance what what is the Authority thinking of doing next year and are we still on board are they still headed in a direction that we like we're gonna see the budget where is the money gonna go what are we planning on doing and then there's going to be a yearly activity report what did we do I think the city would want to know since we became part of this Authority are the recyclables up or are they down are they flat is equality increasing are the people getting the message is the message consistent and how are we doing so there would be a yearly activity report there would be an annual audit process we have a mechanism in here for insufficient income if we if we had a budget and we somehow went over it how that gets handled and how it has to go back to the legislative bodies to be examined and how the cost would be allocated there is a withdraw process and let me tell you why that reads so unlike my writing style because you read these articles and you say Oh Bob Davis was working on all that well he didn't write that part and then you see it I wrote the rest of it and then you say well we didn't write that part there's two parts in here that are required by law in 2001 Madison Heights wanted to exit from the soccer organization the law never had an exit provision to anything people apparently were going to leave or dissolve so through some legislative connections and despite pending litigation I was in a courtroom trying to get this resolved and Madison Heights was in Lansing and getting new legislation and so now everybody who forms an authority going forward under this act has to include the dissolution language and the withdraw language most of which makes no sense to what we're doing because it talks about environmental liabilities it talks about your fair share of the landfill costs it talks about tonnage of waste that went to the landfill over the way it makes no sense but there it is and I have to put it in even though it doesn't apply so what we did in these articles is we tried to go around those mandatory provisions with all the other things that we inserted including the budgeting the the audit process the way we handle finances and the other voting structures so the articles were very well worked on and again you had excellent representation at all the meetings took us three meetings to come up with those acronyms and that it was difficult to name the thing and we've been going community to community now with this kind of a non-action presentation there's no action on these yet but when it is time we have to get everyone has to agree to the same articles or we have to start over so we're trying to introduce them to you at this juncture so let's just last thing let's picture the first meeting let's say we take mr.
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Needham and he somehow ends up being the delegate representative to this authority board and I'm not saying you are I'm just let's just use an example so now we have eight people we envision that the first two to three meetings of the authority would be let's look at everyone's existing recycling contracts how does it fit into your current waste hauling arrangements when it went could it be renewed when could it but when does it have to stay in place under a current a contract arrangement what are what what are you paying for the recycling services or or how's that working financially and we want to get a all eight people analyzed I have already successfully worked with several of the communities who may be joining this Authority and their contractors to say if so-and-so joins this a thought Authority can I remove from their existing contractual relationship their recycling portion of the contract and I've been successful with that endeavor so then we would know where everyone's contract is then we would start working on our messaging and our communication about recycling with the end goal I think being in about three to four years we have to be realistic we're in the tank right now on recyclables financially I I suggest you it's going to rebound within that time for him and where we want to emerge three to four years from now is a group of eight communities ten communities however many communities who have a market reputation of high quality high quantity recyclables who are in the business of producing high quality high valuable high high highly of sawed recyclables so that we can get one or two private entities to manage those recyclables at good rates having a local MuRF fantastic I get paid by the word and I'm done so you said you have not yet started the process of going before the actual municipal no we have we have but only we haven't sought we haven't been an action item yet on anyone's agenda you expect that to start the next round we did for communities this week okay because we do have resolutions yes you do you're the first and we're just advisory right and eventually I have to go to your legislative body right to get the the accident we had we had a meeting the other night where there was a recommendation to send it to the next level we're getting positive recommendations wherever we go but eventually I have to go to the legislative body of each entity and get the same articles drafted which when you have 12 it's a very interesting because one change you do all you do 11 and the last person wants it changed you got to do the 11 again so we always start with Birmingham because I know they're gonna change joining the authority if the City Council did decide to do so would commit them to everything they would be they would the the the Articles govern the entity that is formed there would be a separate legal entity known as the warm up and they would have as designated in here a representative to that authority and the authority would be bound by the Articles and yes down through would be the community is operating under the Articles and that's why mr.
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Neame that's a great question because that's why if you go to pay I don't know if you have a draft but if you go to page two that was why there was way more time than I ever thought under article 3 what would be the purposes and more importantly that one sentence what would not be the purpose and the purpose took along it was a very well-thought-out exclusion John I actually knew you were gonna have a question so I don't know if Theo passed on the email that I sent him last night I have specific questions about that if I'm a mom and I unfortunately didn't print out a copy so I'm doing this from memory but I'll quote from the Articles of Incorporation one concern that I have that I think a lot of other commissioners would have that its states for the purpose of these articles materials management shall mean the management including the collection of municipal solid waste yard waste and recyclables I'm wondering why the term yard waste was used and not organics because organics is let's put it the other way around yard waste is a subset of organics agree and if we're excluding things like food waste and fogs and things like that I would have a concern with that and so I'm wondering with that an oversight or was that something that was done on purpose that's a a it was done on purpose B you're correct and see most current contracts use yard waste I believe even yours does to some degree and and I agree with you it's not the proper term anymore but if you look at bidding processes going on all across Oakland Macomb wash saw it they've been on three things the municipal solid waste yard waste and recyclables well so I don't least preclude no I don't have a problem and I don't have a problem with that thought so is I mean I'd hate for somebody to come back and say this is the Articles of Incorporation yard waste is a subset of organics yeardley we're not going to do that was not the intent that was not the intent but I I agree with your comment so can we change it we're here first its own consider it so the second who the second clarification actually a very good observation these were posted by the way on legislature so I took a look at them last night it's right after that it says the ownership this is what you talked about the ownership the following shall not be authorized focus of warme as the effective date of these articles the ownership or purchase of any real property and or any facility used in the pasture of the future for this puzzle of universal municipal solid waste by permit or otherwise again I take solid waste to be the overarching term yes and the other aspects like recyclables organics etc to be subset of solid waste is that correct correct so this would preclude the authority from owning or purchasing any facility meaning a drop-off station a Merve a disposal disposal disposal is a defined word in the law okay for the disposal not for the collection of correct okay and not for the transfer and not for the MuRF management excellent okay yeah perfect question though because you know when you look at the tsdf acronym disposal has a unique legal connotation of disposal includes incineration okay good I think we don't have a problem with that III obviously misread it so the other question that I had was relates to a document that was posted called collaborative contracting process this is not a part of the con the Articles of Incorporation but I'm nevertheless concerned with it it here because it is in writing and it says that there's a park called hauler determination authority contracts with hauler members who opt in agree upon a single hauler to contract with is that the direction of the authority I mean it what that implies is that the only way we're going to do hauling is by having a single what and I apologize I I'm not sure what document that's it's posted to leches firearm it's titled I just have to be any enough to scroll out the people that collaborative contracting process all this exam is shitty yeah I could take that so this was mostly for demonstration to show that that was an opt-in process we had one so we're not reminding anybody though or ourselves to only having one contact of the king that it makes more sense to contract with two entities or three entities in fact that's how they you know you know you don't mister mister mercy that and that's that's a great question because when okay you can sit out on that he gets paid more that way so when I was throwing all the communities on the other one everyone had the same thought here's this this lawyer you know he's just trying to steer everything towards waste management or some big corporation to bundle up twelve communities worth of nice consolidated you know the waste haulers they love it when you're dense and you're close by and and a lot of rooftops and you know they're gonna get a lot of business and and I always had it just the opposite in my head they gave me far too much credit for thinking beyond my means so what did we end up with we I and I knew how I thought it would go everything got bundled there were no boundaries so mister mirskiy owns ABC trucking he could say I'm putting in a we went out for bids I'm putting in a bid for this box you know part of it was Troy part and I only really I only want to do municipal solid waste I want do with organics I don't want any do with recycles I just want to bid on that part so that got matrix tin your now it was a bitter on that Park and when we when we got all done and collated we birmingham and several of the communities right near Birmingham our our entire contract is with car trucking have you heard of them no I'm glad car trucking they have one of the most valuable pieces of my organization's business and is a big-money contrast and they're fantastic and the rates are so then if you go south and you're in the Troy area and some of those communities we have train galley sanitation you heard of them right so that's how it ended up and there was never the intent never the intent here to have those were I think that was produced as an example and that was that was our intent here and that would be our intent with this organization and one other request just to keep it short and that is I think all of us would be interested in rough timelines I mean the two of you sort of laid out some rough timelines but like what is a timeline if the authority is formed between the creation of it and the target date for educational and engagement and outreach materials what is the timeline for a Murph what is a timeline for this so we have at least some sense that because we're updating our solid resource management plan and we were supposed to lay out what we want to do over the next five years and I think it's an important input to have at least some sense of what timelines the warmer has compared to what we're thinking about doing here in an hour okay I could I could get to something like that you can give it to Missy and then she can distribute college yeah I was involved in in the area of renegotiating the host community agreement between your landfill and the county so I had some peripheral involvement in your your County Solid Waste Management planning process most recently but but I can assure you this the the approach we want to take is fairly aggressive you know we want it we want to we want to it's a great time I think you know realistically you're gonna see contractors approaching communities and it's already happening where I live in in Macomb County that they're trying to reopen contracts to force the communities to pay them for recycling see that again yeah I was careful with my wording there I think I got it right contractors in in some communities are asking the communities to reopen their existing contracts which have recycling services to require the communities to now pay the contractors in you know because there's there's no more benefit to them to the young products right now in the market so you come from the end product of recycle is not earning enough money to cover their cost because the commodity markets are so correct yeah and and unfortunately it's a bad signal yeah it's a bad signal to the end to the end people we're trying to really work with here the citizens when when you have to say you know we all want to be on board with recycling but there's a fee associated with it yeah it's terrible that's a terrible outcome yeah I'm sorry questions one is when you say entity what does that really mean in terms of membership is that a city is that a Township what does that mean in terms of having a seat at the table a yes a municipality municipality goes okay and then why is it one per entity if Ann Arbor is five times the size of Dexter then why do we get one and they get one one one representative and one vote mm-hmm that's the way the group put it together the way we it morphs that it usually starts like that the way the other one I work on Maura morphed into tonnage he was the most tonnage got the most votes mm-hm so when when Troy casts a vote even though they have one they're there because you don't want to you know you don't want to you want to get into the waiting how many people are earrings right so they have one representative there but when they vote their vote carries with it the last three years average tonnage in comparison to the group as a whole so the even the quorum is formed by the weight but we don't have that yet because we don't have any weight mate we don't have that yet because we don't collect anything we don't have that yet but eventually the amendments are some the the the articles are subject to an amendment process and for example in just to go the other route in that on that conversation some of the smaller communities have said you know if let's say we were going to get together on a messaging campaign that costs money while it and it's going to produce something even though I know we're paperless let's just pretend it's going to produce a pamphlet then the city of Ann Arbor might need more pamphlets right than Ann Arbor township so what Ann Arbor township have to pay for you know one-eighth of the pamphlets or some prorated and we left that open to handle on a case-by-case basis well while we're starting here so it works in both directions yeah but you would you would be amending your articles as as that became necessary okay thanks yeah I was just gonna ask the same thing and I think that really needs to be looked at you know when you were comparing it to Oakland County where there's more similarities across communities than there is with new mom you have some real differences here no I just I'm glad to hear that there's an amendment process yes that may need to be attended to before we be many we and your representative talked about that a lot and you you had Matt an attorney who was at a lot of our final stage meetings who I found to be very very helpful and then the other question I mean I'm generally supportive of the regional approach but one point in your presentation you mentioned you believe that the markets are going to change and I'm wondering what's in your crystal ball nothing I got nothing but if he if you look back historically this cycle you know this is not our first down cycles so I I think the materials are gonna return to value now I can tell you this because of some of the efforts made over a long period of time with these communities our prices haven't dipped as much as others we have really clean recyclables and and and and you should be asking citizens gonna ask this question she's gonna say what happens if you know so and so community's recyclables are not so good and now they're commingled with ours into one contract and and we all know that the city of Ann Arbor would be the best right number one almost this year so you would say that'd be a great question so now I've got you guys have your community totally on board you got the best darn recycle and and one of the other communities keeps muddling it up with there and that's why you know the the group has to function as a whole and we have to have a consistent approach to recyclables across the authority as a whole I don't have that happening there's no you don't have any black sheep in the in the group of 12 and and we're we're doing very well we're still we're still doing very well on a recycling and we're returning money to the communities how long you expect the process to get an approval good no no I think we're realistic Lee Mr Graham I think if we were sitting down for our first board meeting in April or May I would be very pleased I would do I'd be very to hit but you know I got a lot of legislative and you know there's different meeting dates and you know you know you know how it goes you know this young man is always at the meetings Rock team from the attorney's office said who Bob referred to as part of actually putting the articles together everybody raised good points anyways that's any other questions I can respond in writing the one question I'm gonna respond in writing was a more defined time line but it's a great thing penned if we could follow up on mr.
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Markey's point about organics - yes so we don't have a sponsor on the commission but there is a resolution before us that I'll just read the resolve clause clauses of resolve that the environmental Commission is supportive of the city participating in a regional approach to materials management strategies and resolved that the environmental Commission recommends that the city of Ann Arbor becomes a constituent member of WR RMA is there a motion to second second any discussion all in favor aye post motion carries thanks for your time your time is very much appreciate it thank you our final item of new business is a resolution that councilmember Bannister is bringing before us today support for strong Clean Water Act and strong clean water rule yes about two weeks ago we got an email comes member Smith and I from Jason Frenzel and Meredith gillies and they were suggesting to us that we consider a resolution opposing Trump's dirty water rules as of late and so I really want to thank dr.
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Stoltz for swinging into action amongst all her others responsibilities she she took the ball ran with it and prepared us a draft resolution and then late this afternoon Meredith gillies sent us a template from the Clean Water Action National Team and so there and again dr. Stone's team is swung into action and integrated the two resolutions so what we have here just in case you didn't get a chance to study it yet was that the current Trump administration is looking to revise the definition of waters of the United States and this could affect 18 percent of our streams and half of our nation's wetlands with a proposed rollback on the definition and so the resolution is resolved that we would preserve the definition of the waters of the United States and that we would ask our urge city council to direct our lobbying efforts in Lansing and at the federal level to support the old 2015 definitions of waters of the United States and urge them to work to revoke the proposed rollback is there a second for the second so we're asking POTUS to preserve wotus one quick thing before we move on to reports I have to apologize early in the meeting I skipped completely over approval of the minutes from our December meeting I realized they were posted to legislature does anyone have any additions or Corrections actually weren't posted I think I submitted some some corrections to Emily there's some name Spelling's from public speakers I don't think that was Emily's ended a long time ago it's not just oh right yeah there is something I'm gonna start but it's not but yeah I think one posted yesterday email from Emily draft minutes from 12 six yes I mean I don't remember off the top of my head what I sent but I know there's misspellings of this of the speakers so we should hold off till next time probably get that get those right report from any committees any of our subcommittees have reports Commission's we weren't that busy given the holidays in terms of the the things that we reviewed more Medical Marijuana other things that didn't have anything to do with not much relation worked on the capital improvements plan so and there was some discussion which Missy's probably been involved with in terms of weighting and sustainability that will probably get worked out in the next year as it relates to us but not not anything that interesting a couple things from energy first of all last meeting we had a presentation from a University of Michigan student and recycling or reuse of urine actually pretty interesting as positive climate benefits and a bunch of other benefits and I recommended that and the student agreed that he'd be willing to present it here in the environmental Commission I won't get any details it's it'll be posted on ledges are I made a presentation on what our sister city tubing in Germany is doing in terms of climate action and anybody that's interested I can provide them that or talk to them and then we're considering a solar access ordinance draft because there have been cases where people have invested money in solar installations to have then someone erect a building or some other structure that then shades their their their their solar installation so we're looking into that and the other the only last thing that I wanted to mention as what I think is a good practice for the environmental Commission to consider what the Energy Commission is done is we meet on Tuesday evenings and so that same timeslot is reserved every Tuesday evening for a different subcommittee so we've formed five different subcommittees and we're working on a lighting ordinance and Evi ready ordinance a health excuse me on a home energy score at the time of marketing ordinance so though an audit would be done and a home energy score would be generated and that would have to be posted on the MLS at the time of marketing we're working on a community engagement group and I left out one but it's not all that important what I think is important is we've split up into these groups we have commissioners and in some cases volunteers from the community serving on those and I think the environmental Commission could get a lot more done if it took the same approach for example there could be a natural features subcommittee left by led by mr.
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Graham here to my right there could be one for example clean water or worse at health etc etc so I think that's something that the Commission as a whole should consider going forward that's all that's one thing we can talk about in our next meeting yeah lots of new stripes on the courts great season of deliveries councilmember banister do you have any report from Council just a small one up from councilmember hey nerd he said he met with the policy agenda committee about meeting yesterday the policy agenda meaning and he wanted me to share the good news with you all that as a policy they are going to we are going to as a city be pushing the state of Michigan in a lot of different ways to allow municipalities they have more strict environmental rules than the federal state the only thing I had to mention was commissioner josh rego has moved out of state and resigned from the commission so if anyone knows anyone who would be a good addition I encourage them to apply dr.
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Scott steel Obama I just wanted to wave in the back of one of our applicants he has joined us tonight it back in the back row and the green turtleneck is Rita Mitchell and she's one of our candidates for Josh's seat thanks for welcome dr. Stokes did you of a staff report fun things to let you know about we have given up two grants through the sustaining Ann Arbor together grant program and I feel like I need to say thank you to Susan because this is your brainchild I know we've borrowed three extensively from Seattle on this and I remember being on the commission thinking through this with you so thank you for your leadership yeah next week we're gonna do a press event I think that's when the Bannister's gonna join us beyond our esteem at Northside is a recipient of a solar curriculum for K through 8 education so we're gonna go out and try to get some press with some students and generate some support for that and then there'll be a press release coming in a little while about Leslie science in Nature Center develop them nature-based playscape which is super cool and I'm happy to share any of the renderings but it looks fabulous and so we're helping support that project making it 88 compliant so every kid very excited we also are working on a grant for Aging in Place efficiently and we it's a match with the local Foundation and a National Foundation and this is about as we age as a population making sure people can stay in their homes and I know we talked about this earlier in July or September sometime in that space that that was an area we're focusing on we just found out today that we are part of a peer exchange around resilient sums so I think you know that's an area we're really interested in so five cities have received some funding to sit down together and develop our work plan around model so that's a big thing thanks to John mirskiy chief Kennedy and Howard leadership here we are moving forward with a volunteer solar program following the model this is an opportunity to install solar at a much cheaper rate because so much of the positive solar is actually in labor and so we're gonna try to test that stay tuned for more and then oh the last thing I just want to do is a shout out to the city administrator that right before the holiday he gave I would say me a gift and probably a curse to everyone else and that we're gonna update our environment preferable purchasing policy overtime to exclude all single-use plastics within the city we can't do it externally for outside but within city operations we can as well as styrofoam and some other compounds so thank you is the administrator for that leadership and we are working to educate all stuff and to make that our next meeting in February will largely deal with a brainstorm session on things that we want to tackle for the rest of the year but if anyone has anything else that they want to address at the next meeting please let dr.
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Stowell tonight we try to accommodate that the next scheduled meeting is February 28th 7 p.m. here is zinc and with that we come to our final opportunity for public comment any members of the public like to address the Commission at this point okay any final words for many commissioners all right we're adjourned thanks everyone you
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this is dot Easy Graham coming to you with another video today we're gonna be showing you a little more of the new editor within WordPress specifically the block editor some of you me tried this already some of you mean not of this does have a lot of new features to it which is kind of nice to try it does look like it's something they're going to keep working on so they'll definitely be adding more features in the future which will be nice if we're going to show you some of the blocks and different things you can do with this in case you're just setting up a new WordPress site and having tried it before as well as those of you who want to give it a try who have been familiar with you the other types of editors like d vu or a page builder or other different plugins that are available I'm gonna show you a couple different things you can do with it some of the more interesting more blocks you can use this well so as you can see here we've got a new post just nothing on it or a new whatsoever now the first thing you want to do when you create a new page or a new post whenever you're within the new editor is to go through an actual I add a title because this will create the page and actually save it in the system once there's actually a page name to it so we're gonna just call this a test page here just something simple and easy to do and with that we can start working on it now whenever you're adding any kind of blockier there's a couple different ways to add it you can either use the option at the top here which will just add a block but underneath the last one you were working on they also have the ability to click on the plus here with a lot of block directly on to the page as well you can also see there's a couple icons here these are some of the more common blocks like an image or a heading and named quotation so these are a different couple options you can do to add it in there you can even see you can add a block between these two if you want to add one in there as well if you already have a couple blocks set up so there's a couple different ways to go through and actually add this in here whenever you click on the plus symbol it's gonna ask you what type of block you want to do now this is based on whatever type of block you regularly trying use or what you're trying to do with the page you can set up a paragraph an image code everything you pretty much doing the older editor you can do in this editor as well it just now has to select which of the groups you're looking for the most used ones are just the most commonly used ones but they're actually redone between all the different one you're taking juice between the inline element which allows you like it says do you add an inline image to something you already have set up their common blocks are the ones you'll use most of the time paragraph images you can do audio/video files for setting those up at gallery if you want to do it as well headings for your pages so you'll find most of the time you're setting up and using within this one here if you enjoy doing more of the coding yourself the formatting is gonna be your table to use you'll see there's code as well as custom HTML so you'll find yourself often coming into here you can also set up a table through here as well so it's a good idea to come in here if you prefer to work with the actual code itself and elements are more of changing the style itself that columns one is particularly useful because this allows you to actually break up and have I left on the right side to your paid so it's very very helpful to do if you want to have more of a separator the meaning in text lets you alternate as well so you can have say like a picture and type beside each other as the editor itself well you can drag and around drag and drop things up and down usually you're not able to go left side right side without adding some kind of lit you know an element to actually allow a left and a right side to be there so do just keep that in mind the widgets here more some of the things like short codes if you're familiar with them your widgets may look different depending on if you have plugins or things set up here so this will expand and change themes and beds will also do that as well these are just some the standard ones like YouTube and things from WordPress Spotify there's a whole bunch of different ones here so these are your third-party services like things you're linking to somewhere else so you can use the blocks here for that you may also have another one below embeds this generally happens to be the custom themes or custom plugins you have setup so you may see other ones here that are under that that'll very heavily in this case here we're just using pretty standalone installation of WordPress so you're not gonna see any here I wanted to show you a couple of the ones here itself just to give you an idea of what to look for so in this case you're gonna start off with a common block just on the common ones so you can go a paragraph this is just typing a normal text and then you can see you've got the options like normal so you can align these you can bold italic if you click on this here and you can actually get a couple more options you can actually hide this if you don't want it to be visible anymore you can duplicate it create a second version of it the big important ones here are definitely the edited HTML so you can actually modify the raw code once you've actually added it in there if you want the other big one is this one called add a reusable block this allows you to actually create a special name for it and it allows you to recreate it as many times you want so you can actually just select that block it's like making your own custom block and being able to add that in here so in this case here if we go through and add another option here we're just going to add an image save and if we go to the media library we can try and grab a random image here we'll just use the dot Easy logo and as you can see we've got that set up if we set that to a reasonable one here you'll say image reusable and just save that here and then what we can do is if we can go to add here you'll see there's all the different options as before and you'll also see now there's the reusable option below it's been added below embeds and if we click on this it'll add the exact same thing itself so I need boxing you create you can mark it as it's reusable and you can go through and actually name it this is super helpful for a lot of pages say if you want to keep recreating the same heading image or a certain set of text say like a photo or something like that so you can set these up easily to very easily just recreate a whole bunch of content within the sites so it is one the noir features which is definitely a lot more nicer to do whenever you have anything sup you can always use this little icon here you can click on it and then you can drag and drop things different places you'll see there's this little blue line that appears when you're in the right location just let you know where it's going to be falling below so if we move it up here for instance there we go the text is now below so you do want to use that blue line as a little divider to let you know where things are being added into if you want to you say yeah some layouting here so formatting here we're gonna add a column seeing there's now a left column and now there's a right column this is how you can add like a left and a right side to the page otherwise they can't there's no real drag-and-drop option unfortunately once you've brought the columns in here though you can definitely add content to the actual column so you can actually drop it into these different ones here so you do have the option of say let's add just something here some of the ones you can't actually add in here images tend to be a little large so it doesn't always let them add in there so do keep that in mind if we do look here I'll just go just call me and let's select the file here we select a file we can see it's actually giving us the option to put it in here so you can see in this case here that it it above it but it's still in the actual column so it does keep that here so you can set this to you create a left and right side to the page very easily and you can see it's already starting to have a very block format so you've got the heading here you've got a starter image I've got a file we have here in this case you've got a left piece where you've got a bunch of text you're gonna be typing got a little bit below the file you're gonna be adding here we've got another paragraph below and then an image and you can see very easily you can create a page without too much real of work to it it does allow you to very easily go through and select things anything to either upload or media library' out of it and you can very easily reuse anything you want to you can even mark everything on the page as a reusable block and then just literally copy and paste it across so it is very nice to use compared to the older editor if you have used that before and definitely has a long way to go I would like to see personally them allow you to build for it around to the base left and right but they do have columns some other things but he's a brand new editor so they are gonna keep working on it there are some bugs here and there would you've run into just things where do they mean on appear properly like when you're dragging up and down make sure you do for that blue line otherwise you may not actually move it for you so just do keep that in mind if you do find anything you can always report it to WordPress itself so that they can help update it and I'm sure there will be future updates for as well but we just wanted to show you some different items for and how you can quickly kind of layout your page and start to build it using the page editor I just wanted to get this to you guys if you have any questions or 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good morning the Kahlo today is February 1st 2019 it is this 97th day of school this is WB AG news I am Amanda and I am Justin today for lunch there will be grilled cheese tomato soup PSA per month fruit salad and milk small for breakfast still there will be banana bread graham crackers orange house verticals we have some friends celebrating birthdays no one weekend our Evandro Yuri tez Delaney Burke Amaya Rivera sorry if I pronounced anyone's names wrong please go to the office to pick out a birthday book yesterday's one fat question was if it may be 5 star bucks each day how many will you have in 10 days mattress 50 the winner the winner is Matthew G Tina Smith come to the office to collect your prize today's fun fact question is in baseball how many outs does a team get at bat at that remember to writer answer namely include your name in class we have a special announcement congratulations to the following classes for following excellent starts vacations and specials miss Custer's class for computers attention that they Cologne middle school student leadership board is trying to put together care packages to get to the womanís in chicago the following items are needed coats closed water soft spine institute basic truth crushers hand sanitizer gift card for food and in growth chambers all items can be brought to the main office and now will we will observe a brief period cemetery fragile anticipated activities every day please stand for the pledge I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all above freezing Friday and remember kind of spans every day everywhere thanks for watching bye
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good morning big fella today is January 31st 2019 this is the 97th day of school this is WB th e news I'm Brooke and today for lunch there will be multi cheese beats up carrots green peppers applesauce and milk tomorrow breakfast their own Eve french toast breakfast sandwich Karen suitable as a network we as a friend celebrate birthdays Caleb powwow yesterday cotner heart please go to the office to pick out her birthday to pick out a birthday yesterday's fun fact question was if you get five Starbucks each day how many will you have in ten days the answer is 50 the winner is the winner is the winner is with Matthew G team Smith come to the office and pick out your products a nice fun fair question is in based well how many ounces of team get back remember to write area answered alien includes your name in class we have a special announcement congratulations to the following classes for following excellent science rotation and specials mrs.
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good morning big Hollow today is January 29th 9 2019 it is the 95th day of school this is wbh emus I'm mrs. Keenan and I knew mrs. Connelly today for lunch there will be breaded chicken patties there when she baked fries cherry tomatoes oranges and no mm-hmm tomorrow for breakfast there will be boat meal yogurt bananas sunset juice and milk celebrating the birthday today I do birthday too I'm sorry for your name wrong hello I'm Ian Singh please go to the office and pick out a birthday oh yes go ahead but yesterday when the the back question was what animal mrs. Keenan you know this why sure do what is the messed up for chick-fil-a the answer is a cow here's my own personal menu music play my favorite restaurant Oh the winner is Lauren in four summers comes the office to pick out your price today so if that question is if you get five Starbucks each day how many will you have in ten days well I hope you plug any five Starbucks today I know that'd be great yeah remember to write your neck your answer neatly and include your name and class we have a special announcement breaking news breaking news attention the middle school student leadership board is trying to put together care packages to give to the homeless in Chicago the following items are needed coats gloves water socks blankets toothpaste toothbrushes hand sanitizer gift cards for food and protein bars all items can be brought to the main office what will you have more announcements boys and girls I want to congratulate the following classes for showing star expectations during specials mrs.
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Cass tenders closed for computers attention they call middle school student leadership as board is trying to put together care packages to give to the homeless in Chicago the following items are needing or needed coats gloves water socks blankets toothpaste toothbrushes hand sanitizer gift cards for food and protein bars and all items can be brought to the main office and now oh there it is to reflect on the anticipated activities of the day please therefore the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all advocacy they said I remember my response every day everywhere thanks for watching bye
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Holley's class for art mrs. Keenan's class for music mr. summers and mrs. Calado Scott's classes for PE misters mrs. strickler's class for map testing home good job mrs. strickler's class and we had our first drawing of students to sit at the picnic tables the winners are able to choose one friend from their lunch to sit with them this week's winners are BB into our a BK in 2d Matthew and to see Carson and three out Tanner and three out good job Lucas's Katelyn and 3k Elena and for app Annie and 4w and ashlynn and for CS fourth grade will be having their showcase this Thursday evening hope to see you there and don't forget to turning your permission slips for Friday night out it will be a fun after-school activity and will both be very well oh and now we have to observe a brief period of silence to reflect on the anticipated activities of the day please stand for the pledge I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all have a totally warm Tuesday and remember kindness counts every day everywhere thanks for watching
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[Music] Good evening and welcome back inside Pine Creek High School. Brian German alongside Dave Tuller for the second half of our double header tonight. We saw the girls from Rampart High School defeat Pine Creek earlier tonight 45 to 41. And now is the second game of the double header. The boys about to tee it off and Jean St. Claire's team of the Rams comes in here much like the ladies having kind of a rough year. They're two and 14 on the season. Have yet to win a Metro League game. And as far as Pine Creek, they started out, they won seven straight games to start the season. They're 12- six, but now third three and four, tied for fourth place in the Metro League. Dave, what do you see in this matchup? I think it's going to be a good one, Brian. You look at Rampart uncharacteristically struggling, a team that typically has won 17 18 games over the last four or five seasons under the coach John Stlair.
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welcome inside Pine Creek High School the rampart Rams taking on Pine Creek this girls basketball game color Springs Metro lead the Rams with the balls we just started action here in the Eagles Jim Bryan driven alongside Dave Toller this is a shot from the outside and goes the first shot of the night and Kennedy REIT is good this sophomore guard gets the Rams on the board this is Jordan Gutierrez bringing it up for Pine Creek gets it inside nice pass over to block down there by Randle the Eagles will gather it and set up the offense [Applause] Gutierrez looks around gets it to low laocoön [Music] [Applause] Martin goes inside against that Ram zone it'll be Brooklyn Thomas from outside can't get it to go off the rim goes out-of-bounds goes over to the Rams so going to three-point shots yeah it really is what one goes in one does not and you look at Pine Creek what their offense rampart was really setting back in that zone I thought pine creek zone was a little more aggressive coming out rampart sat inside of it you have to get those outside shots Brooklyn Thomas their leading scorer had a really good look just couldn't get it to go down there's Reid who hit the first one up top to Cayley Ortiz and that is Haley Toit's on back in the corner to reach Skip pass that's Jada Randall inside is the Rams play everyone gets to touch the basketball Brooke Thomas comes up with it gets it to Gutierrez down the lane and she'll be fouled she will go to the line Jordan Gutierrez the five nine sophomore guard and the leading scorer for these Eagles almost 11 points a game and good job just going right to the bucket she gets fouled on the play 68% free-throw shooter hits the line first one is good Gutierrez with the shooters touch she led the way the last time these two teams played back in January you mentioned it earlier tonight to me 55 to 32 Pine Creek won that game Gutierrez had 18 points he's got two tonight but the Rams had Lolita three to two this time they'll work it around to read again steps inside the three-point shot nice looking shot for Kennedy Reef she's already got five points she averages six she's got all five of their points and a great job she hit the hit the three-pointer that I like that last shot the little mid-range faked the three-point shot put it on the floor and hit the little 16 footer it's up turn over there by the Eagles and the Rams get the ball back with a three-point lead Kaylee Ortiz up top and pine crease couldn't sit back in that zone Rams way out front work it around Randall trying to work inside as is lateness let's shop another three Haley twice on hits that one and the rampart Rams have a six-point lead my frat party shooting like this pine creeks gonna have to come out of that zone at some point here's a steal by the Rams Kaylee Ortiz down the lane blocked by Gutierrez but twice on comes up with it tries to get it to Layton Layton will slow things down come back out front [Applause] the wings on the pine creek zone really spreading out like you said little more aggressive defensively they're gonna have to be the way the Rams are shooting the ball early Lauzon skip pass down low to leighton comes right back let me time here in the first quarter in the Rams liking what they see they'll probably take their time on offense with this six-point lead they are and they've been shooting it so well we look at five points already from Kennedy wreath and the last one that was in hit she was about four feet behind that three-point line they scored just 32 points last time they played concrete well they're one-quarter of the way there we're still in the first quarter so good sign for the Rams we got a call here foul inside on Pine Creek Italy ran ball underneath as Kennedy read that that went from one corner to the other is a good look at Kennedy right there puts it on the floor gets in the lane and draws the foul Toit's auntie inbound gets it in hat J - Randall but a turnover as she bounced the ball and she was still out of bounds so that'll turn over and come back to Pine Creek rampart setup in that full court press Carlisle back to Gutierrez and she will bring it across the time line probably the best ball handler for the Eagles inside a Martin Martin tied up by the Rams a good job there defensively by reat as well as Layton for the ramp to tie her up but it'll stay with Pine Creek on the possession arrow they'll take the ball underneath and in to the game comes Emma Todd for the rampart Rams fort was on pass inside Gutierrez up and in Jordan Gutierrez for Rams eight all four points for Jordan Gutierrez two from the line and that little inbounds play right there a nice job by Gutierrez 11 points a game you can see why she can score in a lot of different ways Randle holds it high gets it to Kaylee or T she drives baseline blocked away by Gutierrez that's her second block of the day but Randall steals it right back the aggressive Eagle defense forces Ortiz to come back out front the Rams will set it up Eddie reap cross-court to Randall Randall tries to get it inside that one knocked out of bounds by Carlisle will stay with the ramps about halfway through the first quarter you see after those first three possessions Pine Creek came out and trying to take away that three-point shot forcing rampart to try to get it inside and they're struggling to pass that ball inside that one knocked out of bounds Ortiz right in front of our cameraman down there pass inside reach he makes a nice move by Thomas puts it up can't go Gutierrez with a rebound she's doing the yeoman's work for the eagle so far to Martin on the side back up top nice pass there's Thomas Oh in and out rebound inside by Carlisle and Pine Creek will set it back up but here is looking inside the Rams sitting back in that zone daring them to shoot Janene two big seagulls going to set up this zone offense they'll work it around Martin not share the Carlisle nice ball movement here is they get it around to low Laocoon and now Gutierrez up top can't get it to go rebound comes down to the ranks Haley Ortiz to Randall on the side nice fake inside good job count it for Emma Todd checked into the game couple minutes ago she gets a hoop and a half nice play by Todd what a great feed by Jada Randall who faked the shot made a nice little bounce pass inside the bucket goes and at the line shooting one Emma Todd there's another look at it beautiful pass from Randall horn and Emma Todd gets the roll does not draw iron on the free throw pillows back over to Pine Creek ten form little surprise right now Dave earlier this year we mentioned Pine Creek came away with a 23 point win there's currently down six at home Martin Brooke Thomas calling forward on the baseline she'll look inside the Rams forced her to pass it in and Kuhn walks with the basketball now checking into the game Kaleigh sheets for the ramps so to be Cayley sheets and Cayley Ortiz up top Kaylee Layton still in the game as well so three Kaylee's on the floor the rampart ramps and a Haley on the bench so it confusing for the broadcast crew okay sorry Ortiz yeah Randall nice pass inside again Emma Todd is there again she's fouled this time the bucket won't go but she'll go to the line for two more and you know she wants another shot at it after missing that first one and another great feed by Jada Randall going inside they did it to the to the one side last time they came back to the to this side and they feed Emma Todd she is at the line Oh for two so far at the line tonight and it's was on comes back in this time for Kaylee Ortiz for the Rams and out comes Lola and in did you see who checked in there H Parker the sophomore second shot no good we got a lane violation on rampart and pine creek we'll get the ball 10-4 good buddy Rams with the lead Gutierrez and Martin will bring it up drops back this side time every time they brought it in bounds ramparts ring the full-court press this time they dropped all the way back Brooklyn Thomas it's a tough thought carlisle karr lyle now to page parker good patience by coach doback squad here they work it around sometimes you can get impatient when you're down a little bit there's Thomas outside three-pointer won't go the rebound Rance Randall gets it afford to Kelly sheets sheet test was on with her but it's knocked away and out of bounds by the Eagles that will stay with the Rams why rampart really changed up their defense on that last possession they were sitting back in a more of a passive zone that time they came out really pressured pine creek inside Layton twice on Jada Randall backs inside to Emma Todd it kicks the basketball goes out of bounds it'll go over to Pine Creek just joining us the Pine Creek Eagles in whites rampart Rams in blue pine creek moving the ball from the left to right across your screen now working the ball look when Thomas she can catch fire she's missed her first couple of shots Gutierrez working inside along with Carlisle and now the switch things up and Janee Juba quants a timeout it's ten to four 133 left in the first quarter Brian German alongside Dave Toller gate will stay right here coach doback wants to keep it here she's wondering you saw a look at her there she's asking them if they're running I'm not sure they're running the zone often they're not we could there's a good look at coach - bacon we could hear yelling what are you running so when a coach is asking what are you running she knows you're not running the right thing and we are in a nice job we're really mixing up their zone and the pressure that they're applying but we'll see if they can that Pine Creek can come out get into the offense they want to get into and they've had a couple of good looks already they just haven't gotten anything to fall no we did not see the first game I'm wondering if maybe the zone is something pine creek didn't see in the first game yeah therefore they weren't you know accustomed to seeing rampart played but we'll see now they should be is that rampart zone comes out front and now it looks like they're gonna go man-to-man switch it up on him and that's coach Justin Abbott playing with the minds of the Eagles he knew coach Juba could call the timeout to tell him to get into their zone offense and he goes man-to-man I like it love the chess match yep Gutierrez loses the ball picked up there by sheets sheets with a nice move she comes for looks for twas on on the right throws it out of bounds 10-4 but the rams are making money tonight with their defense they have been an early on it was the offense their first three possessions they hit two threes and they hit a bucket they scored eight points on their first three and then the mixing up the defense doing a nice job at the other end of the floor Martin now on the right she'll drive nice pass into Carlisle oh just misses inside Parker comes down with it gets it to Gutierrez Gutierrez need someone to move it's Thomas inside Carlisle she's badgered by the Rams defense throws it out nice save by Thomas and Martin is there good hustle by Brooklyn Thomas she gets the ball back Rams inside knocked away again from Carla good job by Emma Todd inside there and the Rams just all over the Eagles on defense here's Wow Gutierrez I thought blocked that shot by Jada Randall I think she thought she blocked it too yeah I think she got all ball but I think she got her with the body as she was moving right in to the shooter so going to the free-throw line Jada Randall 10:42 Randall trying to make this an eight-point lead for the Rams first one just off the left and out and in for the ramzes Hannah Benoit comes into the game checking in for Kaylee Leighton she'll get a rest for the first time tonight you look at that 10-4 lead for rampart they've missed their last four free throws if they could hit something from the line be even a little more yeah she better make them 11 for Thomas across the time line took Parker in the corner duty eros back to Thomas nice move inside lost it off her foot though and back comes Ben walk pushing it up two sheets she'll run it down in the corner toss on up top she'll shoot from there good presence of mind by Haley to was on to realize that the clock was running down she gets the shot off but misses and that's the way the first quarter will end 11 of four Rams in the lead at Pine Creek High School will be back with quarter number two after this you're watching district 20 basketball on 20 TV [Music] you about to start quarter number two here at Pine Creek High School to rampart Ram 7/11 to for lead in girls basketball Brian German alongside Dave Toller and the Rams really doing it with defense and they've hit some key shots they yeah they really have and they turned up the defense in the second half and limiting Pine Creek to just four points of that entire first quarter battle and blasio checked into the game during that break for Pine Creek and she forces a turnover by the Rams right there let's see if she can help him on the offensive end as well here she is that the freshman Matt Maddy Blasio Thomas with Carlisle inside Thomas being hounded gets it inside Carlisle puts it up can't get it to go Lazo runs it down to Martin has it knocked away from behind a great job by Kaylee Ortiz here comes close on against Martin blocked by Martin Gutierrez with the rebound good defense there by Orianna Martin great defense to hustle back get in position not foul and get the block clean Gutierrez across the time line and they're gonna call a block on Kaley Ortiz [Applause] so that'll be the second team foul against the ranch eagles have found four so far here in the first half man pun Creek really got to get some offense going but they really do they've got four points in this game all four from Jordan Gutierrez who has the ball right now and they will play catch way out top Gutierrez with Carlisle there at the at the high post sends it back to Blasio and the Rams almost get a steal Gutierrez brings it inside and now it's Martin and blasio up top inside Martin with the spin sends it back to Carla and Bazo looks like they're it's almost like they're any four corners offense here yeah they really are steal great job by Kennedy reach he's gonna take it coast-to-coast can't she get the chippy know goes out and they got that charge a great job by Brooklyn Thomas getting back on defense for Pine Creek it really was and there's Brooklyn Thomas right there get a good look at her but good job that's back-to-back possessions Pine Creek has done a nice job getting back in transition defense setting up one time they got the block shot that time they draw the charge but still they've done a nice job defensively they've got to get something on the offensive end I really like what Justin Abbott's team is doing defensively they're really aggressive there's another steal by Jada Randall gets it to Toit's on Toit's on to Ortiz up and it will go but she gets fouled she'll go to the line Kaylee Ortiz the senior guard for these rampart Rams who leads him in scoring about 10 points a game foul on number three Brooklyn Thomas her first Ortiz got the first one twelve to four you were harping on their free throws made their last two Kayleigh Ortiz the senior leads this rampart team nine points per game Thomas will bring it up for Pine Creek and juvik will bring a host of players in at the next whistle blows Oh in trouble now gets it to Martin Randle falls down but look at it the hounding defense by the Rams and stolen by Reed again this time she comes in with Blasio behind her can't get it to go Ortiz gets the offensive rebound in the bucket 15 two for rampart you love that pressure that rampart is applying up front and I think that's why we see 3 subs coming in for Pine Creek they may need somebody to protect the basketball especially up top look how far out the Eagles have to start their offense based on that defense the rampart has inside Carlisle outside Thomas shot won't go Randle has it taken away by reat grete took it away from her teammate but it's a good rebound cross-court pass Ortiz will shoot from there can't get it to go Thomas runs it down Brooklyn Thomas across half court sizes up the defense now takes it inside lost it Toit's on comes up with it to Randall Randall all the way against Gutierrez she'll put it up and in 17 to 4 [Applause] there's another look I'm just doing them with Defense great job going to the basket Jourdan Gutierrez has played played on every minute and she looked a little tired on that one getting back this game has been up and down you love the way that the the tempo the rampart is playing with a special and defensive end there's a good job by Brooklyn Thomas to force the issue the senior guard for Pine Creek just make something happen get to the line maybe they could settle down a little bit here she makes a couple of a couple of free throws but they have not scored here in the second quarter they have it and I think that's the biggest thing just slow things down it was getting a little bit chaotic and I think that was in favor of rampart the way they were turning up the pressure on that defense and Thomas hits the first one first point for the Eagles here in the second quarter for 39 left plazo comes out Carlisle comes out Caroline xamarin comes in Paige Parker shot second shot is missed the Rams will let it go out of bounds off of Sam Hren and now Julie McCutcheon comes into the game for Brooke Thomas and we got another timeout we'll keep it right here 17250 not sure I expected this David before the game and rampart would have a 12-point lead in the second quarter to think that these teams met three weeks ago Pine Creek won that game by 23 points so credit rampart that they're doing something that we think it's on the defensive end of course we didn't see that last game but when you look at that score right now Rick fired up 17 to 5 in this game they had 32 points that entire first game 17 already in this one they've done it without side shooting they've done it with defense they've done it with transition offense the Rams getting it done everywhere right now Justin Abbott's really got this team on the upswing maybe they're they're our only win in the Metro League came January 24th so less than a week ago and that was against Palmer a 49 to 40 to win so getting a little confidence maybe in the Rams absolutely they've lost some close games they've been in a lot of them this season but you know you can see a maybe going in the right direction right now reat misses it and they're gonna call it foul over the back on Kaley sheets for the Rams that's going to be the fifth personal foul against rampart both teams now at that same count team wise 17 to 5 fine Creek see what they can do now the Rams kick back in that zone I say kickback but they are all over those passes on to the wing Gutierrez up top to Parker down low Martin mine Creek swings it around the arrows thinks about it tries to get it inside the job corralling that pass by Samri Samri inside Martin no we'll go get your own rebound now Oriana Martin another shot here by McCutchen won't go and a rebound by the Rams they're gonna call foul against Pine Creek a good job by Leighton to get the rebound yeah it really wasn't good not only getting the rebound but protecting the basketball she had three Eagles all around her ends up drawing the foul they called it on the sophomore guard Paige Parker her first of this game they go inside to Layton and an easy bucket falling asleep inside there were the Eagles and Kaylee Layton gets it nice pass great pass that was Ortiz getting inside too late nineteen to five Martin in the corner trapped by the ramps sends it off of one of their legs and out of bounds Brooke Thomas will come back in for Pine Creek Jada Randall for the Rams Brianna Martin comes out as does Kennedy reach for rampart 19 to 5 and Pine Creek got to get something going Parker on the wing download of Gutierrez inside Thomas she'll move it inside can't get it to go and we're gonna have a held ball and this time it's gonna stay with Pine Creek well and even when Pine Creek does get a good look and I like the drive in the penetration by Brooklyn Thomas she gets in the lane gets it up they just can't get one to fall they've had a couple of good looks at it but that one right there Thomas puts it on the floor gets inside of that zone gets the shot up and it bounced around just wouldn't go down careless Ameren to inbound the ball they go inside Thomas Thomas this time puts it up oh just misses and she will go to the line once again but Brooke Thomas really the only aggressive player so far on Pine Creek exactly that time she just went right down the lane makes a good catch on that ball and just as she was going up for that little short jumper she got pushed on the plate foul on Morgan Ortiz her first Thomas gonna try and chip away that RAM lead got the first one nice she do such there for Brooklyn Thomas and Kaylee Ortiz comes out in comes Haley to us on Thomas his second shot good as well Brooklyn Thomas with three points tonight and my Creek back in that moving zone on the side shot up by Morgan Ortiz this one rebounded by Paige Parker and we got a foul inside it's gonna be on Kaley Layton and I believe we might be shooting at the other end and we are there is Caylee Layton Paige Parker will go to the line and if there's ever a way a team likes to get back into a basketball games with the clock not moving absolutely at the free-throw line nobody guarding you the clocks not moving got a shot to make seems easy doesn't it yeah I'm over here it's easy hey Paige made it look easy as well.did [Applause] nineteen eight she cut it to ten right here got the second one nice stroke by the sophomore guard no Pine Creek 7 of 8 from the line in this game Haley sheets up top Randle that one a good job defensively probably some pressure by the Eagles forces the turnover by the Rams [Applause] it's a good look at Brooke Thomas get you then bounce through Jordan Gutierrez Thomas Gutierrez the leaders on this team Gutierrez just a sophomore Thomas thought about it this is senior Gutierrez running things at the point of this offense sneaks inside from the elbow can't get it to go rebound ramps here comes Randall she's got Haley sheets down low she thought about it back inside the Eagles wanted a travel on that one they don't get it Gutierrez now on the run brings it up all by herself she'll take it tried to get the pass over to Parker and it's knocked out of bounds it'll stay with Pine Creek not sure what Gutierrez didn't just take I thought she was it looked like she was going right to the basket made a little little bounce pass I thought Pine Creek got a little lucky right there it went off a rampart player out of bounds goody eres its it inbound Samra now holds it Gutierrez in the corner nice move she'll take it I liked the aggression though usually you get a foul call on that Gutierrez doesn't get it this time the Rams come back with the basketball it's walls on across the time line - Randall PLAs on in the corner good defense by Sam Hren Randall tries to come inside Paige Parker comes away with the steal she's got Thomas with her gets it to Thomas easy bucket wrist it nice rebound inside Gutierrez can't make it Moran's come away with it well that's a tough break for the Eagles Haley Layton it was on but time-out was called by Justin Abbott as the Rams before they got it across the time line so we'll keep it right here 19 to 9 Pine Creek working their way back into they really are they're doing it with defense you can see how now they're turning up the pressure they're trapping players in the corner they're forcing turnovers now once you work that hard and you've forced those turnovers you got to capitalize on the other end and they've had a couple of good looks they missed a layup they missed a foot back so you turn up the defense you work so hard to get that ball and get those layups you got to be able to finish I guess the bright points so far besides that defense for Pine Creek is their free-throw shooting six of eight you said seven of eight seven of eight seven of their nine points have come from the free-throw line so that's a good thing but they got to be able to convert they've had a couple of good looks they just haven't been able to finish there's a good look at Jordan Gutierrez Brooklyn Thomas as they come out of the huddle if they continue to be aggressive they will get more calls get some line some more as well and if you're shooting that well you might as well chip away at this lead absolutely but you love the way they turned up the defense rampart got this lead because of their defense and they forced a lot of turnovers they converted Pine Creek doing the the same thing and when it comes rampart bringing it over Kennedy Reed back into the game for the ranch up top with Toit's on Skip pass to Randall Randall can't handle it Parker almost came up with it Randall on her knees they're gonna call for a travel the pine creek bench was up streaming it and finally got the call well and you're gonna get those when you turn up the defense or turn up that pressure you make people a little nervous they're not real comfortable and they catch the ball they know they have to make quick decisions and as soon as you do that you get a couple of mistakes then you force a turnover comes for comes bringing it up for the Eagles they try and cut into that 10 point rampart leaf Sam run in the corner hounded by Randle try and get it inside to Thomas and we got a foul called and it'll be a one on one for Brooklyn Thomas a great catch by Brooklyn Thomas she was double-teamed on the plane they still tried to go to her down on the block she goes in makes the good catch protects that basket ball ends up drawing the foul on the play Tom's takes her tribbles can't get it to go rebound rampart that's Layton and reap littles it across the time line gets it to Randle tried to pass it inside there's a kick they could have call that against the pine creek Gutierrez it'll be rampart ball on the baseline 43 seconds left here in the second quarter in the first half plus on the inbound nice pass inside beautiful job there by Kennedy wreath great job by Kennedy wreath there's a look at her she comes back down but how about the pass by tossing a little no-look pass look into the corner makes a pass right under the basket great look reat almost with the steal Gutierrez gets it to Thomas and an errant pass goes out-of-bounds 21 to 9 rampart ram ball we'll see if Coach Javits tells me to hold for the final shot he's gotta like the fact that he's got this big lead here in the first half loss on Randall fine Creek forces that zone out a little bit Randall inside nice pass to Todd another bucket for Emma Todd and Emma Todd was all by herself down there Eagles with five seconds let's see what they can do get it to go to Arras she'll get it in the lane shot up won't go rebound too late that's the end of the first half the rampart ramps have come into Pine Creek High School and they find themselves they 23 to 9 lead at the half don't go away we'll come back with halftime for you right after this you're watching gifted xx basketball on xx TV you I'm at fine Creek High School where the rampart Rams have a twenty three to nine lead on the Pine Creek Eagles girls basketball at halftime Brian German alongside Dave fuller and Dave the last time these two teams played pine creek won the game by 23 points rampart scored 32 for the game they got 23 and a huge lead at the half unexpected to say the least really is a great start for rampart you like the way they they came right out and they shot the ball from the outside really well there's Kennedy reat hitting the three she had eight points for the Rams in the first half Vince was on hit the three and it was like Pine Creek didn't know what hit him the Eagles tried to get it inside and they did so just once to Gutierrez that's their only basket of the first half meanwhile the Rams getting offensive rebounds that was Kaylee Ortiz then nice passing by the Rams as well really was they go inside that time was Kaylee Leighton gets the bucket and here's a great pass Jada Randle inside Emma Todd gets the layup for the Rams and that's where we're at so I'm wondering what Jeanine juvik is telling her team at the half because they got to get back into this basketball game Vic got to score some baskets do it all from the free-throw that's the biggest thing seven of their nine points came from the free-throw line in the first half they did get better defensively but they weren't able to convert I think for Jeanine doback and that team they got to just keep shooting keep getting looks and eventually something will go down for you and if you're just an abbot you got to be happy with this lead and we haven't seen rampart play this year but how is this team only got one one one win in the Metro Conference in just two wins overall two and 15 overall in it it tells me they haven't played like this all season long because if they play defense like that and they can shoot the ball from the outside they that would show up in your record a little more than it has for rampart pine creek will try and come back in the second half the Rams will try and hold it off we'll be back with second-half action you're watching district 20 basketball on twenty TV you welcome back inside Pine Creek High School that ready to start the second half Ryan German alongside Dave Toller we'll see what the Pine Creek Eagles came up with at halftime Janine joob ik pumpin her team up rampart will get the ball first they will bring it in bounds Halley tossing the senior guard brings it in gives it to Ortiz senior backcourt for this rampart team Ortiz with it up top back to Toit's a backdoor tease books to the corner turns it over big steal there by Pine Creek here comes Brooklyn Thomas inside shot up and good nice transition there by Brooke Thomas and that's a basket really early for Pine Creek they needed that much need a good look at it right there Brooklyn Thomas going in just their second bucket of the game but Brooklyn Thomas now five points on the evening expect the Eagles to put some pressure on this Ram team the Rams as we mentioned just two and 15 on the year and you know pine creeks gonna make a run though they definitely will they got off to a good start they forced the turnover they converted now rampart goes back to that full-court press we saw it early in the game they went away from it now they're back to it almost got it knocked away but they get it over to Thomas on the side can't get it to go Carlyle big offensive rebound hits the bottom and now blocked by Reed from behind like good work down low by Amelia Carlyle though going up getting two rebounds the second one she gets blocked out but Pine Creek maintains possession safe Eagles nice inbound set here inside Gutierrez up can't get it to fall but you will go to the line boy a rampart when you're defending that inbounds pass and pine creeks done that about three times already in this game you better find Jordan Gutierrez she's coming right down the middle of the lane the past come in was too easy Gutierrez draws the foul that goes against Kaylee Leighton her third that was the only basket that Pine Creek the first half was on that exact same play 23:12 todd comes in for leighton who will come out she's got three fouls we'll keep an eye on that for the rampart ramps second shot no good Todd with the rebound gets it out Pine Creek Gutierrez right there defensively and they get it to Kelly Ortiz and the Rams will set it up we thought about it there in the corner for a Watts was on back up top now pine creek trying to stretch that zone out rampart might want to just stay outside try and pull him out of that zone Todd to reap reap drives baseline back to Todd had it knocked out of her hands say the refs no travel get it to Randall Randall knocked out of Bounce you travel with the basketball 23 to 12 and the Eagles have scored the first three points here in the second half they're looking for more Justin Abbott trying to plead the case of a foul before the travel but to no avail almost stolen away by Ortiz here's a pass ahead for Rihanna Martin nice pass over to Carl I'll bump it in look out behind Creek is Catching Fire there within nine what a great pass by Orianna Martin will bounce pass through traffic we'll get a look at here it comes good bounce pass to the weak side Carlisle converts nice left hand for Carlisle now Randall on the baseline not bounds again rampart wants a foul and they're not going to get it timeout Justin Abbott keep it right here Dave what is pine creek doing well they're forcing turnovers three turnovers already for rampart they were doing that in the first half but they weren't converting the difference is now they're getting the turnovers and they're converting up the other Hank Carlisle gets a bucket Brooklyn Thomas got a lay-up in transition Gutierrez hit a free throw and all of a sudden they got this lead down tonight really is the intensity we did see the same intensity yeah right out on the bat in this game but they just weren't getting baskets so now Pine Creek starting to score can rampart hold them off 23 - 14 Rams have yet to score here in the second half good look at some of the Pine Creek faithful dressed up for hunting hunting season hunting down that lead Carlisle inside nice pass maybe either way with a walk but she scores does Lola cubed 23 to xvi iran's now this young basketball team might be feeling a little bit of the pressure randall founded by martin she travels with a basketball forcing turnovers is exactly what pine creek is doing they continue to do it and getting it done on the offensive end as well they're getting good looks and they're converting those layups and as we said pine creek doing it on both ends and you like the way they're playing right now for rampart that last timeout justin abbott I'm sure just telling his team hey let's settle down we're playing just fine don't panic but you got to take care of the basketball you do have to take care of the basketball and it's tough not to panic when three Eagles right in your face Gutierrez now try to get it to Carlisle almost stolen by Reid inside again another easy basket for Q we will assume with four straight nice feeds getting the ball inside here's a look at it there's the past Carlisle the Qun the layup goes 23 to 18 now the Rams have yet to score here in the second half three minutes gone and there's another turnover Thomas with the steal [Applause] brings it across half court she'll slow it down she was courted guarded by Hannah Benoit I'll top Carla on the corner this time they guard Kuhn inside Martin looks cute trying to get open down there now she comes to the side gets into Gutierrez shot up blocked off Carlisle Lauzon saves it but it foot was on the line good call down there on the baseline by the official and Pine Creek will keep the basketball substitution for rampart coming in Kayleigh sheets comes into the game replaces tossin goodie heiress she wants two three shot up won't go rebound by reap and the Rams stave off that for the moment Reed gets it in the corner two sheets sheets try to get it in Benoit picks it up thrown away here comes Thomas with Reed right with her Brooke toss nice move to look back in school what a nice move by Brooklyn Thomas to fake like she was gonna pass it backwards and put it in it was a look at it coming right at you Brooklyn Thomas goes in for points in this half already Anna Todd inside and we're gonna get a foul called against that aggressive Pine Creek defense and rampart breathes a sigh of relief on that one yeah they needed they need to slow things down the foul goes against Carlisle her first for rampart six possessions in this quarter six turnovers they haven't gotten a shot up credit that Pine Creek defense for that Katie Leighton comes back in for Benoit now to get it in to reap Reed who is left open in the first half had 8 points gets it over two sheets now back to reap reap will take that shot and got it first bucket of the second half Haley Layton for the Rams gives him back a six-point lead much-needed basket for rampart to slow things down it was an 11 o run by Pine Creek to cut this lead to three before that last bucket by rampart inside really another foul called against the Rams that one's going blue 21 that's her fourth foul on Kaylee Layton and that's tough he just coach averages put her back into the game so she'll come out gave me a late in the junior forward and Randall comes back in the sophomore little bit less experience on the court now for the rants Martin - Thomas working inside Gutierrez nice pass working around Martin nice job Karl I'll take the shot won't go with a nice rebound inside get it to go to Aris just off the mark Randall with the rebound Gutierrez picks it up she'll take it all the way in can't get it to go and we've got an offensive foul called as Emma Todd stood in and threw the chop great play by Emma Todd she knew she was going to take a big hit on the play Gutierrez picked up that loose ball she took about four or five hard steps went to the basket here's here's a good look at it right here there's Gutierrez with the turnover gets in boy Todd got there just in time to drive that charge Randall in the corner reap she's open again got it and reap now has 13 points Kennedy Reed the sophomore guard who averages six a game having a game of the season for her Janee juvik wants a timeout and Pine Creek will take it so Pine Creek had cut this to three but then Reed has hit two baskets since then and the lead is back to eight back and forth we go back and forth you started this second half it was a 14-point lead by rampart in the Pine Creek comes out scores the first 11 points of this third quarter cut it down to three but a couple of big baskets Kennedy wreath the sophomore guard with five in this half and has done a great job of slowing this thing down trying to keep her team in it as they're protecting that leave they were up by 14 at one point credit pine creek coming out playing great defense forcing turnovers and converting on the offensive end but rampart is coming back with some defense at their own here late late so we'll see if Pond Creek can keep up this assault Thomas gets it in from Martin and they'll set up the offense way out top and Martin with a nice job there to go back door it's a de Kuhn Thomas comes inside nice bucket what a move by Brooklyn Thomas a great move I think that pass was intended for Jordan Gutierrez Thomas stepped in front and knocked it down takes it all the way around the horn end of the basket goes up with the right hand she's got six in this quarter back to live action the Rams with the ball up top send it in the corner this time Ortiz wants the shot got it Kaylee Ortiz the Rams are on fire from behind the three-point line why they are and they've needed to make some shots this is how they started the game and it's how they built that huge lead was hitting those outside shots than a nice job the last few possessions Gutierrez inside get the touch Gutierrez having a tough time shooting tonight Kaylee Ortiz brings it up the ranch without fear nine-point lead gonna try and nurse it in the corner back out top Ortiz thought about it Randall skip pass almost knocked away by Gutierrez sheets comes up with it and they'll come back out to our teeth or ramps no panic in this offenses another shot by Reed won't go but sheets is there for the rebound gets a good Tod but it's knocked away good job defensively there by Blasio for Pine Creek here comes Martin all the way coast-to-coast op Oh can't get it to go but we got a foul and Martin will go to the line a great job by Martin just going right to the basket split a couple of Rams players goes up with the left hand just a little too strong but she's fouled on the play and she'll get two from the line Oriana martin 5-7 junior guard for these pine creek eagles first one off the back rim won't go Haley Toit's aunt comes back in for Caylee sheets Haley for Caylee Caylee Ortiz still in the game Caylee Layton has four fouls for the Rams second shot good for Martin and Reese gets it into Ortiz nice job by Randall handling it he'll take it in gets a bump and she will go to the line as well couldn't get the puck at the fall but Randall Jada Randall the sophomore will go to the line that's a clip on how you break the press you can't do it much better than that Haley Ortiz a senior guard catches the ball over on the wing looks up had Randall up ahead of her makes a great pass Randall goes right to the basket and draws the foul for shot good for Jada Randall the left-hander for the Rams she'll have another shot to try and make this a 10-point lead once again for rampart rampart right now has as many points as they scored the entire game last time they played these Eagles second one short Carlisle with the rebound get it to pallazzo and she'll bring him across the time line Pine Creek sets up against that rampart zone shot outside by Martin won't go Ortiz with the rebound Kayleigh pushes it to Randall Randall over to twice on easy bucket great job on breaking the press and getting the easy basket there for the rampart terrific ball movement one side to the other for the easy layup inside Gutierrez she's hounded by Rams and we're going to get a call one official says jump ball it's going to go over to the Rams Kennedy Reid comes out of the game Hanan Benoit comes in and she will inbound the basketball Gutierrez on her and walk in to Ortiz and the senior guard no problem breaking ankles and moving it up across the time line has a shot block though Todd can't handle it rebound Oriana Martin but a nice move that was by Ortiz Martin in the lane shot up and good Ariana Martin Eagles trying to keep that pressure on almost stole the ball back but it's gonna stay with rampart they have a nine-point lead look at this Ariana Martin a great little floater in the lane that's what you call a running one-hander I think the teardrop yes Benoit tries to get in gets it into Todd almost walk with the basketball now throws it away but Benoit comes back with it pushing forward to Randall time running here at the end of the third quarter Todd inside they're gonna call with walk in with a basketball 13 seconds left can't Pine Creek score this would be a big basket if they can cut it to 7 here and that's the pressure we saw rampart break it once easily when you break that press you're going to get an easy basket but if you can't the pressure of Pine Creek forced another turnover Carlisle in the corner looks inside Gutierrez thought she was fouled inside so to Jeannine juvik no call to be rampart ball benoît trying to get it in gets it into Ortiz she'll move it up two seconds one second shot up and off the glass no good with the Rams withheld the onslaught by Pine Creek they still hang on to a nine-point lead we'll be back with the fourth quarter in this one you're watching exciting district 20 basketball on 20 TV you back inside Pine Creek High School fourth-quarter action just getting underway and it's another steal by Pine Creek they've had lots of turnovers here in the second half the Rams Pine Creek shot up Gutierrez won't go rebound inside and they'll be Randle and the Rams that come away with it pushing it up ahead Morgan Ortiz tried to get it to twice on it goes out of bounds and that Pine Creek defense forces another turnover and that's it that's a situation right there rampart whip this lead you're up nine points you really don't need to force that basketball inside set it up run your offense 34 to 25 and as time goes here mine creeks gonna have to start pressing to Carlisle gets a bucket there cuts it back to a seven-point lead nice job nice look by Carla good look on the base baseline Amelia Carlisle had a bucket in the third and that one right there she has four points tonight was on Durant laptop inside Emma Todd she'll move on Carlisle can't get it to go to Oz on I'll take the three way off that comes Pine Creek Breanna Martin getting a nice one earlier on the break she goes inside they call an offensive foul that's tough to believe that Toit's on was set on that one the official watching the Pine Creek bench thought about calling the technical foul on the bench there yeah sure sure did we've seen a couple of those those charge blocks had gotten the way of the charge those are so close tough to call at full speed let's take a look twice on line they were both moving the defensive player has has the right to that to her line but good job of holding that spot and drawing the charge Morgan Ortiz is in now number five the sophomore little sister of senior Kayleigh Ortiz for the Rams blahs oh now drives and I'm gonna call a block on the inside but gets Kaylee Ortiz that's a coin flip in they they all look about the same you go charge one time you go block the next Thomas inside cootie eros gets it to go this time and suddenly it's a five-point game presses on by Pine Creek Kaylee Ortiz loses it Martin comes up with it and there's a foul on Ortiz two quick fouls by the senior for the ramps I think that's her fourth as well Kaylee Ortiz just picked up two quick ones and she does have four fouls we'll see if they get her out if they leave her in but she's such a huge part of this offense for rampart good look at Gutierrez there and she's gonna try and do the exact same thing again bla so outside can't get it to go Ortiz with the rebound and they're gonna call Blasio with the foul on that one and Kaylee Ortiz if she is to foul out in this game that's huge because she is the one breaking the press for the Rams yeah really is they they need her out there they're gonna give her a break right now she will come out with those four fouls Haley twas on comes back in Morgan Ortiz is in their wits was on was on hammy by Blasio in the corner and here comes Reed back to Morgan Ortiz who gets it across the time line and across now block there by Thomas Moore hounding defense the Eagles come up with it they're gonna catch grief with a foul on Brooke Thomas but it's just the sixth foul I believe so to be out of bounds for Pine Creek next foul then we going to the line they will and that's the third foul on Kennedy reach he's had a great game 12 points in this game so three on reap for on Kaley Ortiz so a little bit of foul trouble now for rampart coming down the stretch Kaylee Sheets comes back into the game and they will play in the zone against Pine Creek that gave Pine Creek some trouble in the first half let's see if the Eagles can attack this zone here back to Martin Martin nice baseline move goes up gets fouled Gloriana Martin's gonna go to the line try and cut this thing inside five great move on the baseline there's a good look at Orianna Martin but a little head fake created some separation she gets down the baseline pulls up and gets fouled on the play Jada Randle picks up her first but as we mentioned that's the seventh team foul on the Rams so from now on Pine Creek will be going to the line no matter what kind of foul you get Martin's shot just off the iron [Applause] [Music] [Applause] it looks like pine creek getting prepared to play a little man-to-man trap after Martin makes the second one who cuts it to for someone to pass it into fine twas on almost five seconds pine creek knocked off Gutierrez and it'll go out of bounds off of REITs mind Creek basketball 34:30 like white pine creek forced eight turnovers on rampart in the third quarter alone three already in this fourth quarter the defense of pine creek getting them right back in this game that's why Kelly Ortiz is back into the game for the Rams four fouls for her keep an eye on that Thomas goes inside can't get it to go Randle with a rebound really is the only way pine creeks even starting to back off is when they miss a basket so twice on up top one agreed to move reek comes off curls shot up glass how did she call look at that beautiful shot Kennedy Reid has had the touch all night long that's a big one make it a six-point rampart lead inside Gutierrez goes by Todd won't get it to go knocked away and here comes Kelly Ortiz quit today on the run with Toit's on gets it over to her it goes off of Haley and out of bounds pine creek basketball yeah tough pass to make there under under pressure Kelly Ortiz where she was at probably should have made one more dribble and just gone to the basket and you might draw a foul yourself on the play Mattie Palazzo brings it up gets it to Thomas and rampart plazo drives inside knocked around by Todd's shot up and out of bounds no foul called it'll be Ram basketball but this is where Pine Creek has been excelling on this this pressure defenses press they've forced many a turnover so reap tries to get it in beyond the long arms the Gutierrez gets it to Toit's on Ortiz goes to the ground Randle breaks the press by going to the middle works on Martin stops she'll take the shot won't go rebound Layton she's got for thousands well for rampart how about Randle nice offensive rebound to get the bucket eight-point lead it really was great job with the rebound and then she just turned to her right there was nobody there or walked right into the basket and hits the layup timeout Janine Juba can Pine Creek and David's pine creeks been doing just about everything they needed to do to get back in the second half but the Rams have been there every single time but they have it seems like every time Pine Creek cuts this lead to three points grant partakes up right back up to seven or eight they've had an answer for for Pine Creek they're chipping away they're getting closer but as you get deeper into this ball game you're gonna run ahead of time eventually just got to keep playing your your game to get this thing to eight points they've done it with their defense and they've forced a lot of fouls rampart has several players in foul trouble already the big one their point guard Kaylee Ortiz who's had a great game tonight she has seven points but done a great job on that press breaker good look at Jeanine to Victor on up a play for pine creek and on the other side Justin Abbot can't say enough about the coaching job he's done as I said earlier we haven't seen rampart play all year but I'm impressed with his team tonight they played real well their defense forced a lot of turnovers early against a pretty decent pine creek team they have this eight-point lead can I hang on yeah that's that's the big question right now but I as you said Brian you like the wait Justin Abbott has coach this game change it up the way he's played defense they've had an answer every time Pine Creek gets a close and we'll see what they have drawn up coming out of this timeout and we see the press once again set up for Pine Creek Pine Creek with the basketball on the side Bazo gets it to Gutierrez hounded bikes was on it's inside and back out to Martin nice touch by Orianna Martin 38:32 coming down inside the second half of this fourth quarter Ortiz gets the ball to Randall good job by Kaylee from the floor randall takes it in can't get it to go twice on with the rebound grants no need to rush things here but over tees easily down the lane can't get it to go find creek with the rebound [Applause] Martin nice pass out Gutierrez for three No off the rim can't find the touch tonight here's Thomas what a beautiful move she's done that several times tonight can't get it to go now knocked away by Randle to the floor good hustle Randle and Martin on the floor gotta love this basketball game you gotta love both these d20 schools just getting in some competitive action why great hustle by both teams Pine Creek had two really good looks couldn't get it to go down though Gutierrez try to get it back to Thomas knocked out of bounds by Randle 336 left now no reason for either of these teams to panic Pine Creek works it around blahs oh nice move tried to get it back to Gutierrez on the ground Layton comes away with it we got a held ball and it's gonna go to rampart Kaylee late and played well early on for the Rams but she does have four fouls so a pair of Kaylee's out there with four fouls each ortiz anna late reek trying to get it in bounce comes in to Randall Randall turns on Martin thinks about it gets it to Kaylee Ortiz she'll go up with it and there's a foul kind of surprise the Rams are looking for shots that early I am - I was thinking the same thing once they break that press they could have easily set up their offense ran a little bit more time off the clock but Kelly Ortiz the senior had a little room on the baseline goes right to the basket draws a foul of the second of the game on Orianna Martin Ortiz misses [Applause] Kaleigh Ortiz the senior guard we'd probably like nothing better than Avena district 20 rival misses both of those that's a tough misses for the senior Pine Creek across half court there's Thomas Pine Creek doing a good job get it to Gutierrez at the elbow tried to go up with it blocked Griet comes back with it Toit's on on the run back to Ortiz knocked out of bounds by Blasio and rampart will keep it and I'm trying to tell his team stop what's no reason to rush this right slow down we are still ahead in this game 38:32 twice on try to get it in to Randall stolen away by blossom blossom Ortiz got to be careful there with four fouls should've gotten the call there that abounds by Randall right in front of the pine creek student section one of those nice heads if grant Wilkinson over there we'll see him later for the pine creek boys and they take the court we said Justin Abbott was putting up the stop sign to slow his team down the pine creek coach is right next to us or screaming slow down both both of these coaches wanted to settle down getting a little chaotic out there at times Ortiz knocks it away Randall comes up with it she's gonna take it coast-to-coast puts it up Oh can't get it to fall but she will go to the line love to see the sportsmanship there as Martin was there to help her back up to her feet absolutely and going right to the basket Jada Randall I don't know how she got that ball up and nearly made it with two pine creek players all around her and we see the fourth foul on the play that was called on a little cocoon Randall shot up won't go just inhabit talking it to us on now I believe he's telling her read there's no reason to shoot the basketball that early look for a good shot so 39:32 is Randle makes one a seven-point lead for the ranch Pine Creek starting to run out of time 2:30 left Martin inside Gutierrez tried to move had it knocked away it goes out of bounds and Gutierrez just a frustrating night can't get her touch and the Rams have been hounding her all night long he bound the basketball Thomas in to Gutierrez they've done that several times not again the miss Kaylee Ortiz comes out with it and she's smart she's gonna pull it up nope forget about it why not go down the lane get it back to Randle now the Rams will slow it up twice on up top [Applause] she drives around up and in what a great boot my helix was up the others senior guard for rampart 41 32 Pine Creek got to get some points inside Gutierrez easy bucket finally gets the touch from inside there and pine creeks got to force some turnovers now 41:34 150 left Plus on out top handed by Kuhn this is Haley Ortiz up no Thomas with the rebound that's sure whether angel shooting Carlisle Thomas Carlisle knocked down she gets back up Gutierrez coming inside she'll get foul men should be two shots I believe she was going up for a shot and she'll have a chance to cut this lead back again to five pine creeks got to really get busy here one day if I've left they really do but when you foul on a play like that you allow Pine Creek to get back into it without the clock ticking 1:25 left Gutierrez at the line she's 3 for 4 tonight 70% on the season it's about right yeah Gutierrez first I believe I heard him yell timeout so 125 left 41:34 rampart with a seven-point lead though one more free throw for Gutierrez after this timeout I'm not at basketball but if I'm Justin Abbot I tell my team not even to try and shoot there is no shape in value yes no shot clock right you don't have to shoot that's I'm sure that's part of the speech right here it's going to start out with what happens on this free-throw if Jordan Gutierrez makes that free-throw you know they're coming out in the press you've got to get the ball in forcing the failure but once you do get it in and get it across half court just hold the ball they have to fail you and then rampart is going to have to make their free throws and when we've seen both teams tonight struggle at the free-throw line in a game like this seven-point game coming down to the wire if you can make your free throws you can ice the the basketball game and we'll see if the rampart can do that those guys hope you're enjoying this basketball game in a wee dimension rampart comes into this game at 2 and 15 so maybe they're just excited that were in a basketball game and they're just enjoying playing and you know what a lot of that game management comes from experience and they probably haven't been in this situation a whole lot they've lost a couple of close games but at 2 and 15 sometimes the coach you have to coach those situations Gutierrez makes the second one so now it's a six-point game Greek gets it into Randle pine creek gonna keep pressing here they go to a man-to-man press reap lost it you're gonna have to handle it to carry the basketball Kennedy read tough one there though Javits wanted a foul no call 4135 now six point lead Gutierrez to inbound it gets it to Thomas vide eras inside June doesn't want it Thomas skip pass to Martin Martin thought about it Iran sitting back in that zone Thomas will shoot for three got it it's a three-point basketball game 41:38 one minute left the Rams with the ball now and here comes Ortiz breaking the press she'll come up and get it over to Layton she will take a shot off the glasses good the rims get the roll there they got a five-point lead okay Lee Thomas de Blasio inside Gutierrez shot up off the rim no good no foul here comes Martin with the offensive rebound the clock is still running 34 seconds Martin out to Thomas Thomas cross court pass plazo had a chance at the three she's fouled by Layton and Kaylee Layton fouls out of the game with that foul right there and Blasio will go to the line Madeline blahs oh the freshman guard little bit of pressure here she'll try and cut this to you a three-point basketball game with 26 seconds left Madeline Palazzo as you said the freshman just came up recently is played in three games and well she's a huge situation right now at that free-throw line certainly is and watch coach Kubek telling her team here down 526 seconds you got to make the fruit you got him make both free-throws you're down five got to have it and you got to get a quick foul then it starts with the free throws you need those two then you get into a one possession game you get it to a three-point game but you have to foul quickly and boy the last time rampart had the basketball now we're going to take a look at the three-pointer Brooklyn Thomas skip what a big three that was she's had a great night tonight Brooklyn Thomas the senior guard for Pine Creek but boy effort for Pine Creek they've got a foul quickly we saw rampart the last time they got the ball in against the press they drove it all the way the length of the court we thought they were gonna pull it out instead they go for a shot late he hits that shot you come back the other way and then Layton gets called for that foul there's just an avid coaching his team up you know parts happy because she made it and it's at five point lead right now and you got to think Justin Abbott's gonna tell them to get the ball inbounded one of their better free-throw shooters because you've got to think that Coach Kubek just over team let's make both these free throws and let's foul yep exactly pallazo first shot up no this is the first Randle comes down with it's was on is fouled by Martin oh no white ball they call the Gaul out of bounce in his Pine Creek basketball Wow twas on dribble the ball out of bounds I couldn't see it on the edge of our table here I apologize Pine Creek basketball 23 seconds get it to Thomas they're down five they need a bucket get in inside Gutierrez back to Thomas for three shut up comes into two timeout Junie juvik 13.2 seconds left pine creek right back in his basketball game a two-point game Thomas boy what a huge shot the shooters touch Brooklyn Thomas averaging nine points a game she has 15 she's at the last two threes that's what you want from your leadership a senior a veteran player in Brooklyn Thomas it's two big shots down the stretch cuts it to two thirteen point two seconds left coach Kubek you've got a foul yep rampart you don't have to shoot can we remind them at well and maybe they don't have to foul the last time they tried the foul and rampart turn the basketball over so well ramparts got to get the ball in don't turn it over force them to value don't make your free throws you still have a two-point lead in this basketball game can almost hold it if you get the ball inbounds yeah yeah value so we'll see Cayley Ortiz with four fouls will still be in the game I would think they would want her to have the ball in her hands either inbound it or off of the inbounds it looks like Emma Todd is in the game Kennedy REIT will do the inbounding Emma Tod was on Randall and Ortiz and for Pine Creek on defense they don't want Gutierrez to be up on orede repo trying to mount the ball get it to Caylee Ortiz and she's got it no foul and now the foul by Martin and Ortiz will go to the line maybe a tough break here because we're teased missed her last two from the free throw she really did I think she made her first two tonight she missed her last two she's got seven points so 2 for 4 from the line but I think if you're a part if you want anybody at your line that your senior point guard in the situation Haley Ortiz first shot got it huge free throw by Kelly Ortiz this one even bigger maybe a big two possession game if she misses this Pine Creek could tie it with a three got the second one Kayleigh Ortiz here comes Pine Creek quickly up the court Brooke Thomas a tough one there as Hort East goes to the ground Thomas misses Blasio is fouled by Randall Mikayla Ortiz is down she ran into a brutal pick that was set for Brooke Thomas and coach Abbott not happy thought maybe a foul should have been called on that there's 3.1 seconds left I believe Pine Creek [Applause] was fouled by Randall but everyone worried about Cayley Ortiz right now we're going to take a break we'll come back we'll let you know how Kelly Ortiz is doing after this you're watching district 20 basketball on 20 TV you back at Pine Creek High School glad to report Kaylie Ortiz walked off of her own power as Maddie brazo misses the first free throw and that could just about do it for Pine Creek as they're down for they now need a four-point play pallazo was shooting her second free throw he's up he's missed rebound by Randle inside she'll be fouled by Gutierrez so Randle will go to the line at the other end in rampart nursing that four-point lead but as I said Cayley Ortiz ran into a monster pick by Lola Koon went down and we took a timeout but she as I said walked off by herself she's overlooking with the trainer's right now but she's gonna be happy tonight because ramparts gonna pull out this win Randle shot no good knocked around by Thomas reek gets the rebound and that's the way it's going to end and the rampart Rams come in and pull the upset 45 to 41 over Pine Creek this was a heck of a basketball game and started in the first half Dave rampart Rams really won this game in the first half they came out with some great defense and there's a good look at Kaylee Ortiz on the sideline she looks fine we got some highlights for you the ramp our tram started in the first half yeah they really did and they started out quick there's a putback by Kelly Ortiz and rampart built a huge lead 17 to 5 in this game Emma Todd inside they had a 23 to 9 lead after they built that in the first half and then Pine Creek came back in the second half by forcing turnovers in Brooklyn Thomas what a great game she had the nice look back there got the bucket Oriana Martin with the running one-hander Pine Creek cut this ballgame to 2 / 3 late but the rampart Rams were good enough down the stretch to make the baskets to win it this one key right here by Hale it was on rampart Rams will a huge win tonight Haley Layton hits that one that was the last basket of the game and that's the final count 45 to 41 the rampart Rams moved to 3 and 15 2 and 5 in the Metro League the Pine Creek Eagles fall to 5 and 14 3 and 5 in the Metro League we hope you enjoyed the first game of this double-header we will be back with game number 2 for Dave Toller i'm brian german stay tuned we got a good one coming up for you the boys Pine Creek and rampart after this on 20 TV you
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But you look at the other side, Pine Creek, as you mentioned, off to a great start. Their coach Joe Roush gave us some key points, but the one that he made to us was the last two weeks they're not playing very well. They've been struggling. They're trying to find their way. So, we'll see how their confidence comes against a Rampart team that has been struggling with their confidence as well this season. Yeah, part of the struggles have been Cadarian Maul who went down the last time these two teams played the uh starting center for this Pine Creek team. Will not play again tonight. He is still injured. Probably won't play the rest of the season. That definitely hurts Coach Roush's team. Definitely will. And you look at the back court for uh Pine Creek. They're solid back with Loafy and Wilkinson. All right, it's got going to be a great matchup.
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We'll come back with a start right after this on 20TV. We are back inside Pine Creek High School. Brian German alongside Dave Toller. The Pine Creek Eagles announcing their starters. Max Loafy, Grant Wilkinson, Kenny Fam, Colton Joerger, and Payton Westfall will start for Pine Creek. For the Rams, it'll be Brandon Sanger, Elijah Thompson, Kale Corminy, KJ Stewart, and Kobby Shepard. And uh we mentioned tonight, maybe the team with more to lose tonight would be Pine Creek. Well, you look at where Pine Creek standing at 12 and six overall, three-4 in the conference. They're in fourth place in the Colorado Springs Metro League. But you look at the overall state RPI, Pine Creek is 23rd in the state. They're in a pretty good place right now. tells you a little something about the Colorado Springs Metro League. They're fourth in the conference and 23rd in the state.
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