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any other questions or comments all right it doesn't look like we do thank you so much thank you and we didn't have any comments public comments right basically almost the same yeah our students King with the pledge okay um when we start all right and that concludes our public budget hearing and that moves into our board meeting we're going to go ahead and we're going to start with our land acknowledgment crane school district understands that our community of schools is located on the ancestral land of the hodem Jude and akumel Odom people who descended from the Hohokam and have inhabited these lands since time immemorial the Odom whose name translates literally to people or a vibrant culture and Community spanning countless Generations into the past continuing to thrive into the present and carrying a powerful Legacy of generations into the future with the to the future with this acknowledgment the Creighton School District formally recognizes that the traditional care and keeping of these lands by indigenous people is an aspirational model of community stewardship that we are committed to honor with practices policy and human relations and that brings us over to um our pledge and uh Dr Lewis would you start off the Pledge of Allegiance for us please one nation under God is I'm sorry I'm having technical difficult difficulties over here all right thank you so we want when we want to welcome everyone to tonight's meeting and remind the audience of the request to speak address board cards that must be completed and submitted to the board secretary if they wish to speak to an agenda item board policy provides for two cards White cards to be submitted in order to speak to an agenda item and blue cards to be submitted in order to speak during public comments due to open meeting law board members are not allowed to address items that are not in the agenda this is per policy b-e-d-h that brings us over to um do we have any oh to the approval of agenda I move the governing board approve the agenda as presented all those in favor aye aye perfect and that brings us to adoption of the revised number 3 2223 budget pursuant to policy DB and ARS 15-905 I will go ahead and move the governing board adopt the revised number three total aggregate School District budget per ARS 15-905 specifically 15-905 E1 for fiscal year 22 23.
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um so all of this data that we're going over is is located in our executive dashboard on and I'll pass it off to Tim to go over some of the summary results you see on the screen is designed to really tell a story now and it's it's real life it's uh we wanted to make sure too that when we assign costs and when we assigned predictive life cycles and practical life cycles we wanted to take a conservative approach to this we did not want to show that the sky is falling because it isn't but we want it to show that systems have a good life to them and we wanted to report it that way so just just so you know that this this is we took that kind of an approach to all of this so now this is the picture of all facilities all campuses rolled up into one each campus each facility has its own picture this is all rolled up into one and you can see there's there's a again a lot of needs coming over the next 30 years and that continues on into 50 years and so on but you do have about 198 million dollar backlog of things to fix today that may look like an alarming number it is a big number there's no question but uh I'm going to tell you it's not a sky's falling number and I'll explain why in a second because what we now want to do is we want to assess that from a risk perspective and we also want to let you know that most districts uh they try and figure out what the risk rating could be and should be in other words do I have to spend all 198 million dollars today to fix my schools so that I don't compromise the quality of teaching and learning in the environment the answer is no you don't uh what we're going to figure out is we're going to show you in just a moment is well what is that number what what what's the right number to manage risk at an appropriate level where we're balancing off uh facilities hindering the ability to teach and learn in the classroom So cumulatively speaking this is all in 2023 dollars we start off with that same 198 uh million dollars and then each year thereafter with without any additional funding applied to this these would be the needs so if you did nothing over the course of 30 years you'd have about 1.6 billion dollars worth of need that would arise uh that's no different than your house it's no different than anything else just over time it costs money to maintain uh doesn't mean you have to spend all of that right now that's not the goal the objective then is to start overlaying and looking at this five years from now that 198 and this is important that 198 will grow to 325 million in five years that's not that far away and in 10 years it'll grow to 600 million uh roughly and it just continues on that's in the absence of any funding at all this is just the need that I have and again we took a conservative approach to this because I wanted to make sure that we maximize the full value of Life of each and every single building system in a piece of equipment then what we do is we overlaid your funding and historically over the last number of years you you've invested about 20 million dollars per year and what we're going to call Capital renewal it's not a new addition or a new Wing or anything like that this is just for Capital renewal fixing existing building systems and and replacing lights and uh mill work and and bathrooms and things like that so that's the kind of stuff that's been going on so we we then went ahead and overlaid 20 million dollars per year every year in today's dollars no escalation no inflation in this and you end up with this dark blue swath that is a projection of what would happen if I continue to invest 20 million every single year for the next 30 Years at the end of the day on the far right hand side the 1.6 billion drops down to 1 billion roughly uh but what's left over is what's underneath that is what we're really interested in because it's how much funding do I need in order to achieve quality of teaching and learning so that the facilities are to hindrance and the question also is am I at risk today in 2023 because I have that Gap or is it 20 30 where the risk is or is it even further down the road we're going to measure that in just just one moment so you may have heard this before but one of the industry standards for measuring risk of a campus or a building and this is at a building level is called FCI facility condition index and it's a very simple ratio just says how much money do I need to fix my school today divided by its current replacement value and if I built the School brand new it'd be zero dollars needed to fix it divided by its replacement value meaning an FCI of zero is perfect it's in great shape and there's a green band in there that says if your FCI is between zero and five percent meaning 95 plus your facility is running perfectly you have a very good school it's in great shape Fair range is basically saying five to ten percent uh going forward and poor of course is 10 to 30 and critical Is Not Great the industry standard for schools across the country is it would be ideal to manage my risk and make sure that all my buildings are at least in the good or the fair range so in other words at least 90 percent of the value of my schools are unencumbered they're working the way they're supposed to I'm I'm going to be in a position where I can say you know with a clear mind that I'm not compromising the quality of teaching learning or the facilities are not compromising the ability to teach in that classroom and or the ability for the student to learn in that classroom so then we want to plot your numbers up against that kind of graphic so this graphic here the first one is here is that same big bow wave of all the need that I have without any funding plotted out if you did nothing you're actually starting off there's a green band which is good yellow band is fair orange is poor red is critical and today you're starting off in what I would consider we we'd rank you as an A minus overall and you're sitting at an 8.8.7 percent FCI now I can tell you having done hundreds hundreds of these across the country that is a good place to be compared to others that doesn't mean that you should put the put the brakes on and stop or you're good uh no I'd say I'm just letting you know that that you've done a really good job your team your staff um especially gentlemen to our right and Bonnie of course done a really good job of figuring out where to invest next over the past number of years to keep you where you are today so that's a tribute to the team uh what's also interesting is that over the next couple years you can see that ramp is starting to come up and by 20 2033 which isn't that far away if you did nothing your portfolio would reach the critical State and I can tell you at that point with great confidence that if you let that happen What would your ability to teach and learn in those classrooms would absolutely be compromised and challenged so give us some examples of what you're saying by learning being compromised and challenged yeah so you would have premature failures of equipment and you'd have to send kids home you would have teachers complaining that's uh the lighting's not good the the the environment's not good so all the sensory perceptions are challenged you you would have it could be too noisy it could be too too too warm to cut too cold Etc I mean all of these things matter and those are all the mechanical systems that drive the systems but it's also how do I feel when I'm in the in the space if the paint is peeling off the walls it you know it it feels like not not the kind of environment that's in uh you know conducive for learning so those kind of things that was a softball but um there are things that are obviously much more catastrophic than that not in the sense of a wildfire it gives me an idea well and just unsafe things that are not feeling maybe playground equipment so you could have things like sidewalks they've started to lift and trip and fall issues so this could become a legal liability issue yeah all those kinds of things all these sort of things come into play that fire Life Safety uh building code issues that are that are just not being kept up thanks and you're not there uh good news but so each school would have this kind of a picture and then the next thing we did is we then overlaid the 20 million dollars per year and said well okay every time you add funding you're going to reduce the slope of that or change the slope of that curve and the goal would be to try and bring that down closer to the yellow line and you can see you're kind of halfway there or maybe not quite halfway 40 of the way there with 20 million dollars per year and then the real answer the real question is well what does it take in order to achieve what we call an asset sustainability Target that 10 FCI and the system asset planner automatically calculates this and it works out to be 48 million dollars per year that you would need today with the portfolio that you have without making any changes to it but just maintaining those facilities as they are over the next 30 Years would require 48 million dollars per year so that's that's the reality and again this is based on a conservative estimate because we're making sure that we're extending life of systems as much as possible rather than saying well I'm not going to do any maintenance and therefore my life cycle is much less this curve would be much worse and it would hit you much sooner so we're we're taking into account the good work that's already been done and the good work that will continue to be done any questions on that do I have a question and two questions actually what is the what was the 20 million dollar number and how did it all of a sudden become a 48 million dollar number and is there through this process in working with our maintenance folks are you making a list creating a list of things that need to be targeted more urgently two very good questions so the first one the 20 versus the 48 the 20 is what you have historically spent it in this analysis it's actually not really important how much you have spent it just it's just a it sets a baseline to say this is what I have done in the past and the previous graphic does show that if you continue spending 20 million dollars per year yes you will extend the life cycle of your systems you'll you'll preserve life but that 20 million is based on a number of years of historical Capital renewal spending that you have embarked on and that you have invested back into your facilities to clarify that 20 million dollars if we were to continue with 20 million dollars annually we would still be within that fair range through what's the year there looks to be about 20 28 2029 through the next five years if we were so in other words we'd still be able to achieve the um the fair the under 10 of that FCI for the next five years at least if we were able to maintain the 20 million dollars it's getting worse over time because of what Mitch said which is the first 25 years of a building's life you're going to spend 35 of its replacement value whereas the next 25 26 to 50 years you're going to spend 65 percent that's what that's what the acceleration is correct yeah and what's happening is a lot of your mechanical systems are starting to come due in around 2029 2030 and that's why that curve starts to increase in slope quickly so those big ticket items are are now going to come due it's no different than your house furnace has to be done at some point it's a big ticket item uh same thing in a school well and and from the way you showed us where we're building schools we're hitting that 30-year Mark with a lot of our schools so um because we grew so rapidly and built so many at once that's it seems like we should strategize so we don't have to bear that cost all at once to fix all those mechanical systems and all those schools I think that would be um very difficult to do what's nice about this data now puts you in a position and your staff in a position where they now have a a view that is concrete that basically says these are the things I need to pay attention to coming up over the next 30 Years and in which order and which priority so I think the other question was about priority every single thing in this database is prioritized in the first five years so if you go back to this graphic here where we start off with 198 million dollars and then the next five years worth of needs mechanical electrical architectural structural flooring ceilings lighting bathrooms all that stuff that's coming due in the next five years actually has a prioritization score so you're actually one or two questions ahead of us because we're going to describe what the prioritization process is but everything does have a priority in the first five years and that's important to you because if you have 20 million dollars or you have 48 million dollars now you'll know from a technical risk perspective what your next investment needs to go into and if you get 38 million well you know exactly where the 38 million needs to go if you get 5 million you know where the first five should go as an example does that help yeah it says thank you my my next question is for Bonnie how feasible is it that we could spend 48 million dollars or jump from 20 million to 48 million immediately and is that sustainable and as a second part of follow-up to that question how much of the 20 million dollars that we've been spending per year has come out of the bond and override so um the 20 million dollar figure Mr Thompson is associated with our bond spend over the last probably five years Albert we've been averaging that um so we there has been though unrestricted Capital spend we shared last month that operation suspense between two and two and a half million dollars in addressing those most urgent needs and failures um in the in Prior years we had the issue where the main gear gear switch at Ashland Ranch went out and we were actually shut down all of fall break I think that year foreign while it was being repaired but it was repaired over fall break and school was in session um after yeah but but our mitigation strategy there was we actually rented a um a generator yeah the generator right yeah so um but regarding the 48 million house I'm sorry yeah we can hear the generator from our house I'm sure regarding the 48 million dollars um so so a couple of things um it would be difficult for us to spend 48 million dollars knowing that our our students are in session um regardless of that though I'm just happy to have uh a database that that Albert and I can go through and decide when we do as as Tim said when we do have that next 5 million or 10 million or 15 million dollars we know the highest priority that it's going to the other thing that we discovered last night with some of the questions that the master Capital planning committee was asking is that there's a lot of stuff in here that would surprise you there's a lot of infrastructure associated with technology when they're talking about lights they're not talking about replacing a fluorescent light fixture with another fluorescent light fixture the the values are exchanging those fluorescent light fixtures with LED light fixtures just as an example so um so it's just I don't know what the right number is um Chad but um but I'm just happy to to have something that helps me and I think it might really help to answer that question Tim if we go on to that next slide before before you do I have a question when you talked about the 20 million that you said that's from the bond but the actual money from the state has been the 2 million correct they actually the actual so if we didn't have the bond we would only have 2 million so there's no way we could do 48 million when we have to well let's clarify that's part of so we've spent that out of the unrestricted Capital right which in the last couple years we've received from the state right about and 15 16 17 million the last couple years but until the last couple years we didn't there was anywhere near that they weren't giving us any right very little money right and all of that also goes toward all of our um remind me our licenses any curriculum that we have any book yeah that's what she said yeah all of that I'm just saying so it's not just that money yeah it has to go toward all of that so in that Dimension classroom Furniture um anything that computers that are being used on a regular basis all that is in there also that's true so listeners and students teachers and students yeah Mrs bets can you just explain um just for our audience the difference between what we can spend Bond money on and District additional assistance money on because there is when we go out for bonds there is there are restrictions about how we can spend that so could you just explain that for those who may not understand um you bet so Bond dollars are not allowed to be spent on curriculum materials instructional materials software licenses also but uh but understood Capital can be used on those projects that Bond can be used on so we're using Bond dollars for those major long-term Renovations in which it increases the value of our assets so generally speaking it's constrained by that but understood Capital can be used for those items as well yes but there are things that Bond dollars can't be spent on and I wanted people to understand that that's right we have we have to save some of that District additional assistance for these items that we can't fund through our bonds that's correct one more thing sorry going along with the bonds we when we go out for the bond we explain how we're going to use it and then by law we have to spend it according to how we've said we will use it and we have reports that show that show how we've spent it to make sure that we've within a small percentage it has to be right exactly what we've explained how we're going to use that that's correct it has to be actually advertised when we go out for a bond correct specifically it's the specific the detail is in the the pamphlet that guides um how we're allowed to spend that's correct Mr Thompson did you have something else yeah maybe this is uh a discussion for another time but how it sounds like without the bond we would be roughly 18 million dollars a year short of being able to maintain our facilities how did we get to a point or how are we how are we a district the size we are without an ability to keep things up to date without asking taxpayers for more money so um so truly Mr Thompson it's really all about prioritizing so at this point in time the money that we receive from the state is [Applause] um accounted for in both maintenance and operations funds as well as under student capital and we can seamlessly move those monies back and forth between those two funds so if we did that prioritize increases in salaries if we did not prioritize class sizes then we could re-utilize those monies going to those needs and move it over into unrestricted Capital to meet these these regular ongoing facility reinvestment costs so it's all about how we would prioritize as a school system it was I will say we we had a time when we didn't have bonds it was about one year and it was tough we didn't have an override and we didn't have bonds that was a very tough year we didn't do anything that wasn't a major emergency or what had to be done and so there was a backlog created there I mean there was a parking lot that had to be redone that if we could have maintained it um it would have been less money if we'd had money to maintain it but we didn't even have the money to maintain it so once we did get some bonds we had to redo that parking lot those were the choices that we had to make in about 20 14 and 2015 and then thankfully our voters came forward in 2015 and passed our override and our bonds and then we were able to go back and address some of those issues and put more money into our buildings and it's just been something we built on every single year but when that's why when there are districts in our state who can't pass Bond or override elections and Rural communities that really struggle that's why they struggle so hard is because they don't have those additional dollars to invest in their buildings or in their curriculum and that they're just really have to pinch every penny it was tough and we our buildings would not be as nice as they are today without the support that our voters gave us on those issues that they've done in 2015 and 2019 so um so Mr Thompson I do think that it would be good for us to go to the next slide though because it does talk about our priorities this is where there are some options for us too where we can prioritize those most urgent needs remember that this entire assessment includes even exterior paint interior paint all those things that are easier to defer so I'm going to let Tim continue with this next priority analysis thank you so when we look at any of those building elements that require attention that show up in the first five years we want to assign a priority waiting to it or a priority score to it and some of the things that pop out are things like Fire and Life Safety or code related items they would generally have a fairly High weighting so we have a scoring of zero to a hundred zero means it doesn't require any attention 100 means I should have done it yesterday type of thing but the idea is that you have a series of criteria that you look at so if fire Life Safety Code related issues are important that's one factor so one part of the waiting formula adverse effect on security that's also important that also weights into this if a building were to be shut down because that piece of equipment or series of a piece of equipment failed or stopped working kind of like the motor control center that they referred to if something like that happens is there a risk of shutdown yes no partial so it may not be complete it might be just a partial shutdown we want to know that and then of course there's the urgency of the actions and then there's some tie Breakers in here so if you had a bunch of priorities that were all ranked about the same and one of them had operational or Energy savings that could be attached to it I'd probably do that one first because that now has an impact on your operational budget and it would help that budget as well so there's a whole series of tie Breakers in here designed to address this and in your portfolio in the next five years you have about seven eight million dollars worth of fire Life Safety Code issues that that you want to pay attention to and they're not all due today but they're going to be due in the next five years so you want you want to pay attention to that adverse effect on security the same thing you know there are a number of items in that that could cause your building to shut down if you didn't replace that piece of equipment or series of pieces of equipment and again it's not complete shutdown it might be partial shutdown we want to know that and I think that's important there is about 180 million dollars worth of stuff that if you this is actually good news in a way it doesn't sound like good news but uh you have 180 million dollars worth of stuff that you're going to have to fix in the next five years that also has and if you do fix it you'll also realize an operational savings from that so even though you're going to spend 180 million dollars to fix those things you'll actually see a reduction in your Opex uh going forward so we tend to look at what we call total cost of ownership understanding both capex and off-backs coming together to try and optimize where your next investment should go so that's how priorities were established and then in behind that it's a a list now do you want to talk about this Mitch yeah I certainly can so uh what what you can see on the screen is a filter that was applied in the database and we took this filter looking at a handful of systems that could provide or could cause the building to shut down or partially shut down if they were to fail and a lot of the systems that you see on the screen there they were listed as critical condition they could shut the building down and those were a bunch of air handlers at South Valley Junior High School and they're they're you know of course in the database there's quite a few more but that was those are some of the highest pressing needs the highest priority needs and speaking to Bonnie um it was really reassuring to hear that those recently just got approved for replacement um so yeah we were certainly glad to hear that and the good news is is with the replacement of those it those would also fall in that 100 million 180 million bucket where if you replace them because they're in rough shape it means Albert and his team will not have to go there and constantly repair them you know get to the point where you're looking for parts on eBay so there will be some operational savings as a result of the replacement so remind me what that value was in your database Mitch so for the I think it's 98 Air Handlers the value in the database was 2.407 million and what you approved was something just under or just over 2.3 2.395 yeah so it's amazing the the consistency that the database offers to what we really found the cost to be so but but regardless that was the other thing I wanted to share too that that 198 million dollars of that backlog does not consider the 20 the the all the 20 million dollars worth of of projects that we have scheduled to date that will be done over the next you know five or six months so that's another piece of good news we've already addressed 20 million dollars that 198 million I have a question if you're you're talking about 48 million dollars a year which is about 28 million more than we're spending right now if if we could afford or did choose to go out to our voters for that much in bonds would that mean that this line that goes clear up into the red how would that line go would it stay flat it would follow the flat trajectory of the dotted Red Line okay okay and then that's the goal you you want to work your way towards that that goal through various sources of funding uh you know maybe the the to be this massive surplus of cash come from the state and you won't know what to do with it if that would be the day that would certainly help but at the end of the day the idea here is that yes you will want to try and Target towards 50 48 million dollars per year pardon me uh each year and that will ensure that the facilities stay in a position where teaching and learning won't be challenged even then we're still we're like that line is between the yellow and the orange it's not like we're down in the green into really good shape no and and you could you could set your your policy to say that I'd like to be in the five percent range FCI range at the green level so that I even have better facilities than that incremental gain is is it'll take it from 48 million to slightly more not much it's it won't surprise you it's probably I don't know what the number is I'd have to calculate it but it's the system asset planner does calculate that you know what would a five percent FCI look like for the long term well that that would be interesting to know at least to me I would like to know what that number is and we can certainly provide that so if there any other questions that was the basic length of the presentation I think we've pretty much walked through everything uh the only thing that we maybe didn't say and didn't identify is that in the Deferred maintenance backlog uh and I think I said this in the beginning is that a lot of the needs during our commercial break I said a lot of the needs are mechanical electrical plumbing needs and you have about 88 percent of those needs in the uh are represented by mechanical electrical Plumbing so it's not flooring finishes it's not paint I mean there are some paint of course but and there are of course floorings that need to be addressed but uh most of it coming up is going to be the stuff that you don't see the stuff behind the walls so if you had a school that's built in 1993 and now is 30 years old um when would you expect those things to need to be addressed at that school how long of a lifespan do those things have again the the general design of schools and and as many debates on this but as Mitch said it could be a 50-year school should be designed for 50-year school there's some schools that are 100 years so what what that means though is that there will be life cycles repeating over and over and over you have to constantly keep replacing those Air Handlers over the course of a hundred years or 50 years or whatever it is but generally speaking in the first decade and a half 15 years there's not going to be a whole lot of tension required on existing systems like mechanical systems maintenance will need will pick up on those systems over time and then eventually you're going to be exhausted with the maintenance activities that you're doing because you just can't keep up with it then you you fall into the replacement category and that generally ends up being in the 25 to 30 year range 20 to 35 year range depending on the type of equipment and what we're talking about but it's so I give a bit of a sense yes and then when you're looking at the age of a school when how do you decide when is a time to maintain or keep it up and re or replace it what is the how do you make that decision that schools get older one of the biggest industry questions that pops up because that's where the balance of what we call total cost of ownership kicks in because you really need to understand the operational impact of that so maintenance utility expense all of these things against that piece of equipment or pieces of equipment or systems versus the capital cost to actually replace that thing and what we try and do is we try and optimize that can I stretch it as long as I can from a maintenance perspective by doing more maintenance which might mean I may need more people maintaining that will actually be cheaper for me than trying to replace everything but that'll only take you so far and what comes with that though is risk it's no different than your car or your house you can decide I'm not going to change the oil in my car and I'm going to save myself 60 bucks I'll do that two cycles over and all of a sudden I need a new engine well those are the same kind of decisions you're making on every major piece of equipment inside every facility and and that's the kind of information we're tracking so to help you make those decisions well I I certainly appreciate uh you know this is a 30 000 foot view of what we need in our schools and and having the specific I I know we already had good information but making it even more up-to-date and accurate and more detailed I think that's that's very valuable so I appreciate that we did this work and that um you know now we have to look forward to how we're going to plan for the future for those buildings that we know um are going to need attention anything further I just wanted to share that there is an appendix there with some other information that I thought that you all might like to see and so it's for your at your discretion um and then I can be available tomorrow or any other day to answer any questions about that well and I guess kind of what Mr Thompson was saying was this is the beginning of a discussion but it's the beginning of having data to understand where we're really at and how to prioritize our decisions going forward with capital whatever the amount is that we have from whatever sources we can we can bring it up with so I think this is great and I really love that it's something that we can maintain and that we've put the initial investment in and with your time and efforts that we can now have something that when we when we update something it changes and then it changes all the numbers that go with that so that's great thank you thank you I would like to just point out what you said at the beginning or somewhere in the presentation of what Albert and his team have done uh through this point in terms of making sure that we are on track as best as possible I know that there are many conversations that we've had over the years me Albert Bonnie about hey do we need to replace this or is this something we can we can put a Band-Aid on for another year to move forward because at the end of the day it does come down to what can we afford and uh Albert you just have a really good sense of when these things really need to be replaced so I appreciate what you and your folks have done for that so thank you for that thank you yeah actually in some of the details it was pretty cool that with Albert's information that we seem to have put the money right in the correct place over the last five years which is amazing so thank you well thank you if there's no further questions all right we appreciate we appreciate you being here tonight and giving us this thank you guys well done appreciate it thank you thank you very much thank you that will take us to 2.02 goal calendars 2024 to 25 20 25 to 26 and 2026 to 27.
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I wasn't if it indulged me I could kind of refresh everybody's memory or tell everybody what happened so during that entitlement process I was approached by several city council members who they came to me they said Ron we'd really like to see solar in the project we know how difficult it is how expensive it is could you please make a good effort to try to analyze it and figure out how to incorporate it so the fundamental problem we have is we just don't have any land for solar we have the buildings you have the roads you have the Trevor Creek setback and the public access seasmen and all these different things and I was thinking well how could we create land and then it dawned on me we can reclaim land if we can build a roof over our parking structure now for anyone who knows the parking structure in the first building it's it's has a very large footprint it's almost thirty thousand square feet and it's an open-air parking deck part of our commitment to sustainability is not to heat that parking deck obviously the big expense of gas and carbon all those things and it's a continuous parking ramp so we came up with an idea that if we could build a roof over the parking structure now we would have enough real estate that not just to add a few solar panels just to add them just so we could say we did it but we could do it in an efficient way and actually you know generate meaningful solar as a result of it we worked with a third-party consultant that I paid for and the proposition I made with the city and I thought we had great traction I thought this was going to happen was that we would use the Tiff to pay for the cost of the of the roof over the parking deck in other words to create the real estate so that we could create the the solar PV array and the the math I believe supported it happened I mean obviously there's fluctuations in terms of what the market prices for the electric and whatnot well we we went to the city Brownfield committee and the then CFO of the city really didn't like this idea and I respect his opinions he didn't see the world quite the way I did and when we were sitting at the table to talk about whether or not it should be approved let's just say he was more persuasive than I was and he convinced the committee to vote it down so we tried very hard to comply with the request thank you and it was the city that decided not to do it there's no hard feelings and we tried we did what we were asked to do and by the way we were never compensated for the third party Consulting expense but I'm just neither here nor there I honestly didn't know that story so I was curious about that um the uh you have met the terms of the current agreement which called for 15 units of affordable housing at 60 Ami and you've committed to adding 9.99 Maiden Lane to the terms of that previous agreement which would increase the count by approximately six units at 60 Ami are you required to do that two things on that we are not required we voluntarily offered to incorporate that building into the terms of the current agreement that we have and also to answer a question that Ken Garber asked about how are they getting compensated the answer is they're not thank you I was going to ask you that and then I wondered another question has come up which is how many of the current years current 15 so they filled up quickly so the the first building they're all filled there's eight in the first building there are seven in the second building last I saw in the leasing I think six of them are already rented okay and you haven't opened the second building yet we've not opened yet thank you um uh I I think okay so uh I I think that I have raised some of the major questions that my constituents raised so thank you and uh as commissioner sovay mentioned we've heard a number of um questions as to why we aren't requiring electrification of this project and again the answer is because this is not something that we can require if State Building Codes allowed us to do that every single project that that came before us would be electrified but we can't require that and you have your heating infrastructure in the ground and so we would not impose an inefficiency on you and ask you to make a hybrid something or other I don't even know what that would be when you already have the infrastructure in the ground so I think that's all you know as much as I can allay concerns and thank you for your answers okay thank you commissioner Mills thanks I want to follow on to the comment about solar if you ran the numbers in 2017 I would imagine that they're they're quite different now and I'm curious if you've run the numbers again in part just to look at what this looks like for the the common energy usage I mean it you know sometimes if you um sometimes in in apartment buildings there can be tricks or a particularly in condo buildings um but it seems like you probably have a decent amount of energy use across the site just yourself so I'm just curious if you've run those numbers again to re-cost what it might look like now and whether that's if if it makes sense especially if you're going to own these buildings sure the um so the answer to that question is the um it's not a function of re-running the old numbers what's lost is the opportunity to create the real estate which was that the roof of the parking deck so um there's talk about whether you can put them on the roofs of the residential buildings and you see projects where it happens I would just tell you in my experience in David's experience we've been doing this I've been doing it for 30 years so I understand something about building a construction and um and this is no comment on the desirability of solar or whether it's an important city priority I'm just speaking about construction but residential roofs especially in high-rise buildings are very difficult places to construct efficient solar now if you said you were going to condition your approval on us put in a couple solar panels on the roof of the building we could do it but we don't want to do it in a green washing kind of virtue signaling way we'd like if we're going to do it we'd like to do it the way we were trying to do in 2017 whereas it's really going to work you know there's an array there's an efficient amount of land um you think about a roof on a building I just I made a few notes you have roof scuttles you have to contend with you have HVAC equipment gas piping in the case of our buildings because of the soil contamination is vapor mitigation equipment we have rooftop anchors that people tie off to when they're going to work on the roof we have setbacks for safety and circulation so you can move your way around a roof also when you when you install solar panels and some kind of frame system you have penetrations you have to put through your roofs or every one of those is another spot that gets flashed that potentially could leak you have structural considerations because the the the panels are like sales you know they pick up the wind and you have to work against uplift not to mention many times that the geometry and or Terracina roofs becomes problematic so the the issue is it's just it's very inefficient to try to put them on the roofs of the buildings I won't do it now unless you really wanted me to I could speak to sustainability across the project in general and I I hope that when we do that we can talk about more than just solar because I would argue that the sustainable features of our project are profound I don't think there's any argument about I I will spare everyone that speech unless you really want it but I we've done so much and we may not be hitting the mark on solar the way some people would like and there's a wide range of opinions on on how much to do and which boxes to check but I would just argue that overall if you look in aggregate across the three phases our project is remarkably sustainable can you talk a little bit about the efficiency standards to which you're building your buildings I'm not sure I like are you exceeding the state energy code in terms of Energy Efficiency like oh sure sure I could speak to some of those things so I mean specifically you're talking about Energy Efficiency so yeah the first thing is remember that um so much of the energy code is codified so it's not even a matter of if like when Lisa was the commission commissioner dish was talking about you know if it was required well believe me Energy Efficiency is required in the envelope of buildings The Architects know this so our entire building is is foam insulated the windows the glazing is insulated um we have we have to comply with the energy code submit calculations Again The Architects speak to it if we want to get sort of granular on it but we have that we have the open air parking structure which is a consideration we're not heating the deck so it's a little less comfortable convenient for tennis on the other hand we thought that doing so works against the sustainable initiatives of the city and we have many other minor things that we do in the construction of the building which probably aren't worth listing all but we're related to indoor Quality Water efficiency material usage energy and atmosphere so we do a lot that's just with respect to the construction of the buildings themselves I mean if you'd like I could go on no that's I was just trying to see if there was anything beyond kind of what the energy code requires in terms of the um you know air changes per I don't know all of the things that I don't know but how tight the buildings but that's okay um I I on future projects I just again appreciate you looking at it in 2017 understand that the ship has sailed I spend a lot of my day job talking to people about what has happened to renewable energy which is that the prices have really come down so I just encourage you to look again um for the future projects um you talked previously about your experience with vehicular parking I'm curious about your experience in the existing buildings with you you've provided a lot of bike parking so if you could tell us what those bike rooms look like and also where they are in those buildings because I'm intrigued by where your bike parking is in this proposed building right I'm glad you mentioned that maybe I could piggyback on what you were just talking about with the sustainability in the buildings because I would consider all of these Transportation initiatives we've taken they all are in the building so we already talked about reducing the vehicle parking I don't have to recap that but I do want to point out two things to answer your question about bike parking in 2017 in vast exceedance of the code which requires a nominal amount of bikes we decided we would provide one bicycle space per unit we've adhered to it for every one of the buildings we'll do it again for this current building even though it goes beyond what the code requires because we understand that our tenants in this particular location want the ability to bike to work they want to bike to the hospital they want to bike downtown carry Town wherever they're going to be Recreation also we haven't talked about it yet but in terms of EV charging I will also say that well before the EV charging requirements were put into the code we put EV charging stations in our parking deck it wasn't a function of whether or not the code would require it we can see where the future is headed it's unquestionable that the vehicle Fleet is going to convert from gas to electric over some period of time I suppose we could debate how long that would take but we wanted to get that ball started so we know we have some tenants that have electric vehicles and we already have a couple EV charging stations in the deck and we fully expect that over the course of time because it's scalable in the deck that you will start to see those EV charges proliferate you know throughout the deck and that's something that won't it's not in the it won't be a zoning requirement we have to adhere to it's catering to the needs of our tenants and providing a valued resource your electrical services scaled accordingly it is allowing for that the expansion of that service we have the ability to expand it to a point and then beyond that we would have to upgrade but for where we're at for the present and for the foreseeable future we have enough capacity to add to add charges the foresight in terms of of making sure that your electrical capacity is ready for that I think is really great and again these buildings are going to be around for decades thinking about you know what that looks like for future electrification of other parts of your building I think is really useful so that's good to know um do you find that you have are people locking their bites up outside like the reason that I'm asking is because there's a the experiences that you have right like providing the bike parking where people want it is really important and so I'm curious about what the experience has been I realize I did not answer your question you asked where the bike rooms were located and I did not answer that so let me answer the question they are conveniently located on the first floor with direct access to an exterior area of the building so one of the things we wanted to do in addition to again meeting the demands of our tenants multivodal to uh use of bicycles we also didn't want to have tenants bringing bicycles up and down in their units it's uh it's it's it takes a heavy toll on common areas of the building it's inconvenient for circulation it also takes a toll on the units I mean occupies space that you want to have storage or usable space to live in so now those rooms are on the uh on the first floor is there's racks in those rooms so you can lock your bicycle individually okay and I based on the site plan it looks like there's an entrance from from the exterior like on the on the I guess this would be like the north side yes um is there any do you have to go and lock your bike up and go back outside to get upstairs and how does that compare to kind of where the how it works in the other buildings right so you would enter that room that's where you lock it up and then from there you have so you have access to the room from the outside you also have access from the room to the corridor of the building so you can walk and generally speaking the rooms are located reasonably close to elevators so you can walk into the common area and get onto elevator to get to your floor certainly in this building it's right near an elevator okay um I mean I and part of this is not it's also just to see how things are functioning in the real world right if they get used that it's not in the basement that it's at ground level that it it's accessible from outside and from inside I like that suggests to be something that gets used but I'm I'm I user experience here um the the you know that you already have some buildings functioning like seeing how that's working it's just helpful for us to think about um how this works in other developments and what where we should be pushing for things sure so um I I could commissioner still based comment about retail and and the balance I can't say it better the only other thing uh that I would say is my recollection and this is for staff my recollection of uh the discussion of this site back in 2017 this wasn't really the the building that was so heavily discussed the what I recall from this building was really the cladding on it and I don't know if this was just a commissioner milstein talking about brown or if it was materials but it I mean it's pre-covered so it's all it feels like decades ago but yeah go ahead I can tell you because I remember making a comment that I thought it didn't relate to the rest of the development very well and that you all said that you were kind of looking for contrast because it was condos and not and not rental clearly it's a different kettle of fish now in terms of you know that that it's much more consistent with the rest of the project but it was it was tan brick I do I remember this and yes commissioner milstein did have an opinion about that too so yeah but I think things change years now right um I usually am pretty skeptical of when plant when folks come back in and want changes I think that the key things that we were talking about on this site have already happened to the plan that was originally developed and if anything from my opinion this is actually this is a this is a a better building than what we saw then as part of a whole again that was mixed use in whole with some with some retail components um I think the increased number of uses without adding the additional parking giving time to figure out how much parking you're actually using is really beneficial um and so I'm I'm comfortable um with this project moving forward okay anybody else commissioner Hammerschmidt I just have a couple I think easy questions for you um the building a is a building that's currently yes it is how what percentage least up is that building is it completely full um it's essentially full it fluctuates a little bit as we get to the leasing turns they happen at this time of year but essentially full okay then just just curious I probably know the answer to this but what sparked the desire to want to change from condos into this third building also being well the condos just didn't work so when we went through the approvals in 2017 we we made a commitment that we were going to lead off with the condo development and we did and um you know the short answer is we just we could not generate the sufficient pre-sales we needed to move the project forward we could have long discussion I'm happy to even talk about it afterwards the reasons why I wish if I could write the algorithm we you know David and I would have gotten it right to begin with but um it didn't work and so then we were considering you know what the various options could be to successfully develop the property and it became clear just given the market dynamics and our own experience with the first two phases to date that this was seen to be The Prudent approach and and then the two principal changes which we keep coming back to the increase in density and the reduction in parking they work there's a complete alignment I mean those changes allow this phase to be successfully changed to another kind of residential use and they also align with the city's priorities so it seems like an excellent fit keep hearing it over and over and you're seeing good demand for the isability Building C that's currently okay um I really do appreciate the kind of phased approach because in understanding that this is really like just for your property and we can't necessarily extrapolate it but like kind of seeing how the demand has been for parking it's just kind of like a good gut check I think for us right so well it's a unique it's Unique circumstance to have that and obviously it came with a lot of risk because the parking was all built with the first phase so if it didn't go well that was a risk calculator risk that David and I took um they had this ancillary benefit of being able to gauge the real demand and help us out so I think so it makes sense that you're not seeing as much demand for parking as maybe we might have thought thank you anybody else commissioner Lee go ahead sure just wanted to cite uh c1ar's um District intense statement which is the districts intended to encourage the orderly clustering and placement of high density residential and complementary commercial development near the campus business district so um in Reading that's just objectively it does look to place high density residential I will go back to retail as the component of public benefit or place making benefit and just wanted to ask simply have there been considerations during the process and what led you guys to say I'm not sure that's going to work but that's a great question and this goes back to for those of you who are in the discussion of 2017 you'll remember there's a wide range of opinions on how much retail should be in this development there are definitely people some spoke tonight I completely respect their opinion that they'd like to see more there are also many people that think that what we've provided is appropriate it really becomes a function of the shopping center was a desired amenity until it wasn't and there came a point where it it couldn't be sustained if it could have been sustained then this project wouldn't be developing there would be a successful Shopping Center um the next iteration of the project the one that failed before ours was very heavily commercial hotels retail office the whole thing it could never get off the ground conveniently it was blamed on the recession if that project had started construction it would have been a white elephant everyone would have been very unhappy it was not sustainable when we took our opportunity to work on it really thinking about how do you make retail successful and it wasn't about how much to provide as much as how do we provide whatever we provide let's make sure it's successful successful meaning that it can be released at a market rate and that you have high quality tenants that demand the space and so as you would know this is what you do every day you have to see it it has to be in an area that has significant traffic around it not just foot traffic but especially vehicular traffic and you have to be able to park it has to be convenient it just so happens that that intersection of Maiden Lane and Broadway and and Plymouth Road that's where Broadway has surface parking it's not included in our parking counts but that surface parking is a very important part of why we hope that that retail can be successful there free for anyone who knows those streets it's a bit circuitous you drive down Maiden Lane it's like how do I get there and you have to sort of learn that you have to go on Plymouth and cut around Broadway now for Destination retail believe me people have found plate everybody loves that restaurant we're very happy to have Jane Kim as our tenant she's great and she's the proprietor of orange market that's going to open up soon so people will figure it out but it's not easy you know so we hope that the combination of the parking and the visibility can offset some of the circuitous nature as far as the number of square feet we had it set up so that we could have three retail tenants the Market's going to combine two so we'll end up with two spaces we think based upon the interest in the site right now that we've we've got the right amount of retail space could somebody argue that there could have been a little bit more you know we could have those debates I would just argue that if you look at our portfolio we are a mixed use developer across our projects some projects have grocery anchored shopping centers as the retail component some have grade level commercial it varies if we believe that there is demand for however many square feet of retail we would develop it not only because it would be successful but frankly the more successful the retail is the more valuable the apartments are right the extent that you can walk downstairs and consume some valuable service like orange market for example it'll be invaluable so there's no reluctance to create retail it's sometimes I I think the way it gets expressed is somehow we consciously chose not to build retail it really wasn't that we'd be happy to have much more if there were demand for it what I argued at the time and what I see happening I think someone mentioned about iterative development but you know there's the Strip Center on Broadway there's the new retail we're creating there's information entropy there are properties As you move down Broadway toward the bridge you have the gas stations or the repair shop you have the North Side Grill block things are afoot there you get a little farther to the bridge you have DTE and you'll start in Lower Town proper is already under construction you know right on that North Side block so that is what I predicted is that rather than try to accomplish it all in one development and say we have to have twenty thousand feet let's say just because that number of bare Summers resemblance to what the some percentage of the shopping center we said let's do what's successful and we see that permeating down Broadway the last thing we wanted to do we wanted to avoid the mistakes of the George so I assume everyone was well intentioned from the for you know all the parties involved but you know that retail completely failed in every way and you know it's for all the reasons you know it's below grade circuitous access there's no signage there's too much of it it's deep into the site and we didn't we didn't want to repeat those mistakes thank you for that um it's important for us to recognize the people that made time to come here and comment so I certainly did want to Echo and really kind of talk about those concerns so I appreciate your response with respect to retail um other question I actually had and this is actually for staff we did here actually there was comments regarding wind tunnels and I was wondering if there's ever any discussions or analysis related to wind tunnel creation I mean we're I mean it's windy today it's May in Michigan but um just just wondering if there's any kind of considerations towards that and what the built environment as we get towards more densifying um if there was any kind of considerations towards that thank you um what I have is only anecdotal there has been one project in the city in my tenure that there was significant wind tunnel concerns I think that staff and that applicant tried to reach out and find a someone who could study that I know that Steph took a shot and contacted folks in the Chicago planning department there is no science for settling wind tunnels as they relate not like you can do a shadow study for a building and even if we had a wind tunnel study it is not a standard of approval for for better or worse but it is not a standard of approval um it's I'll leave it at that so I don't have science for that and I don't have a standard of approval to include that as a factor gotcha thank you just again it's important to me to recognize the comments it's made again I know it takes a lot to come out here and civically engage so thank you for that um based on again my reading of the district intent um encouraging orderly clustering and placement of high density residential and complementary commercial development near the campus business district I believe this complies with that particular intent statement um I think the addition of additional units is important thank you again for your explanation regarding retail um it is tough to find operators that can operate at a good healthy ratio we generally try to Target five to eight percent of gross sales if Market rates will be 35 40 triple net that means they have to generate five to six hundred dollars a square foot in sales so the question is can you find an operator that can effectively work at those and do you have the absorption readily available for for that so I certainly um am satisfied with the the petitioners thought process regarding considering retail for this particular area aside from that I believe I've covered most of these so I think that's pretty much it for me thank you Mr Abrams thank you um I want to start just maybe with a personal anecdote which is that I lived for five years at 1216 Broadway which is a few steps from this project both my children were born in that house literally um and I can tell you that as a resident of that street I ask myself you know how would I feel about walking down that street um and encountering what was when at the time I lived there and a huge empty chain-linked lot um to what it is now and I I honestly can't say that I would be happy about it um but I but I just want to so I guess I want to say I kind of relate to the personal feelings and emotions and reactions around things that that get built in your neighborhood and the way that changes the character of the street that you live on and how important that is to your daily life said I feel like my role up here um is to like weigh the costs and benefits weigh the pros and cons I think it's almost never that we vote up here um without any without understanding any trade-off there's almost always a trade-off for what we're voting so in this decision um I think that on the kind of benefit side The increased density is a huge benefit to our community so the additional units in the switch from condos to Apartments and I think although not as many as we would like I think the addition of six affordable units that would not exist otherwise is also a benefit um on the on the on the kind of cost side I mean I think what I'm sensing from the community and I you know like commissioner Lee really appreciate everybody who spoke both kind of with with concerns and also with um in support of this project is that there's a tremendous amount of residual frustration and anger about the history of this project and I don't think that uh voting down this third building is going to remedy um the the kind of harm that has already been caused by that so I'm aware of that and I see that but I think the things that um we're being kind of asked to consider that we should be demanding of this project like additional mixed use or additional commercial or building electrification or actually outside the scope of what this body can do we can't require building electrification this is not a PUD and I think we were just given a reasonable explanation for the amount of commercial that is going to be included in this project so um I think I support the motion but I also just want to acknowledge um that I do that I understand that there are trade-offs and I wanted to make my rationale transparent thank you commissioner white uh I think I have a couple of questions um that I would like some clarity on Mr Barber talked about the affordable housing units the 15 and then the additional six I guess that are coming and then commissioner dish asked you about it and then you answered uh can you just clarify what what you understood Mr garber's Question to be because he I heard him ask where is the public money for the affordable housing and then I didn't understand your response to that but everybody else did so I I was confused that's okay so the um the answer is there is no Public Funding for the additional six units for the additional six units but the Public Funding is through the tith are have paid for the 15.
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second all those in favor aye thank you and that brings us to public comments no public comments today okay awesome thank you and that brings us to our superintendent report and good evening Community uh I just want to say this is the 90 days of May that we always are amazed by how much is crammed into our very last month of school but beautifully our students performed in a band concert last night at Camelback High School and I want to thank the administrative team who was there and supportive and thank our band teachers and our amazing students who did an amazing job they were also dangled with a little bit of what Camelback might have to offer and their band teacher from Camelback was there and they performed as well so it was beautiful um the volunteer luncheon is Friday Cinco de Mayo from 11 to 12 30 at Loma Linda and the multi-purpose room we will be celebrating and honoring over 220 of our partners and volunteers so that's again Friday Cinco de Mayo 11 o'clock in the morning for a lunch um and we appreciate the uh Creighton Education Foundation for Their donation for helping us with that um Family satisfaction survey remains open thank you Emily wazolik for always getting it out there as visibly as possible uh it takes about 10 minutes to complete and we really do want all of our families to complete it we even offered QR codes that were brought to the band concert to make it easy and accessible if we ran into parents there as we ran into parents there our Native American family gathering is Thursday at uh uh the Creighton Academy gym so that's an evening Gathering I don't think I have the time for that one you might look at it in a minute and again another another oh I'm assuming six five thirty five thirty on Thursday for our Native American family gathering our Coral Festival is Monday May 8th at Camelback High School at 5 p.m I really hope everybody will go to all these marvelous student performances um Wednesday May 17th and I'll have a chance to announce this earlier but to give you a heads up is an evening where we have a community preview an input session for our new school and that will be held at the Creighton Academy gym so a preview of what's to come with our new school build and then Thursday May 18th uh we have the Phoenix voice up boys choir that we'll be singing with our fourth graders from Mackin and Monte Vista Amy thank you for bringing that partnership to us what an amazing gift that's been to our children uh and then um before I introduce my my new friend today um I wanted to tell everybody we have an end of the Year awards ceremony May 10th at 3 o'clock in the Creighton Academy gym so I hope each of the board members have signed up for a little role they might play in in the distribution of awards and recognitions of our marvelous folks so with that I am very pleased to ask Ms wazolik to share with us a news clip that will introduce our student and his mom uh that we're very proud of this Monte Vista student sixth grade being homeless to becoming a successful business owner this morning I am sharing the story of a valley mom teaching her son how to break the mindset of poverty and now her 12 year old is a budding entrepreneur inspiring other kids to be cool the positive way he's also inspiring Financial Independence for other boys all over the world keep going be a leader not a follower King Mani is the founder and CEO of an inspirational clothing line for kids based in Arizona so the name of your company is called me King bro we Kings bro at just 12 years old he has come up with a way to inspire other boys to get curious about financial Independence and what he calls their inner King the case stands for kindness the eye stands for intelligence that has stands for Noble and the g stands for Godly in the Z stands for silliest with a purpose-driven message to spread kindness that looks cool I like the 3D print it's like it feels good too the idea came after a ride through Skid Row in Los Angeles with his mother Dr Velma Trahan she knows firsthand the reality of being born into poverty I believe that poverty is a state of mind I believe that everything we do starts with our mind what's here what are we doing the mind is a terrible thing to waste and I believe that if we get more children to understand how powerful their mind is then we can we I mean so much change can happen in the world and so when I took him to Skid Row and he got to experience that I believe it changed a lot in him we saw a lot of homeless kids just a lot of homeless people a lot of homeless kids like kids younger than me and the kids the same age as me the positive change maker is getting some big time attention honored on Chase Field before an Arizona Diamondbacks game is the founder and CEO of we Kings then by Tempe city leaders awarding his company a 25 000 Grant the mayor of Denbigh calls King a role model you don't have to be my age or older than me to start your own business through your own company or to be an entrepreneur you could start as young as 11 or 12 years old and have a huge impact on your city and the state and even our country this is surprising because when I first started I think it would come this far I mean that's pretty cool you got the mayor behind you the Diamondbacks the Diamondbacks behind you and that I mean 25 000 and Creighton School District and it's really helping him with marketing and a lot of great things with this company so I did mention an opportunity for your kids to make money with this as well he's a football 11 pre-teen but he's also about team so they have an affiliate program and I was taking a closer look at this it gives other kids a chance to make money too and you can find more information about that it's up at our website right now abc15.com [Applause] please come up King Monty and Dr Velma uh Trahan come on up and share with us some of your uh the story behind the story and and maybe the board would like to ask a few questions since it is agendized I remember meeting you um it's so interesting how we even came to Monte Vista we were actually um he was actually going to go to a private school and it didn't work out and um we went to Monte Vista and she was Dr Donna was actually one of the first people that I had an opportunity to um talk to and I'm so very uh glad that I did a lot of times you know Public Schools they don't have like the best reputation but you know what this has been like an incredible move for us I'm here in Arizona and so um yeah so I'll let him talk and if y'all have any questions for me um we've been here three years November will be three years I was actually recruited here by the state and greater Phoenix Economic Council to work with a lot of the corporations in government entities on moving the State of Arizona forward in terms of diversity equity and inclusion program so we have one of the fastest growing dni consulting firms we're here now in Arizona in Houston Miami and Atlanta so I was born and raised in poverty and I decided that I was not going to allow my end to look like my beginning and um you know so I've just been instilling that in him and I remember at the age of five I would have him go to meetings with me and he would take notes and I'm ignoring that he would you know eventually uh be this amazing kid so all right hi guys so my name is kingmani I'm the owner of We Kings bro um it's a clothing line we sell t-shirts sweaters hats we're trying to make cleats and I have this new like design it's like it says you can't Garden me for football players because it's like when people see you wearing that shirt they obviously gonna get intimidated so that's the so I made a shirt that says you can't guard me for the summer time because some people it's this like football league is called 707 um so it'll be good for like seven or seven but yeah that's awesome um board members do we have any questions or comments go ahead Miss Ayers well Dr Lewis sent me this on um texting me and I was like oh my gosh we have to have you come to the board meeting I have to meet this kid I just think you're such an inspiration thank you um and your mom so supporting I just I wish that all of our kids had um you know the same opportunities that you are giving your child and teaching your child these um I work I'm in a similar district with very poor children as well in their families and um I just love that how you supported him and let him run with his ideas and just be creative and I just think it's so fascinating and wonderful so thank you thank you Miss Michaela and she said it really well but um just so proud of you this is absolutely amazing as she said you are inspiring to other kids I'm sure there's days where you're like oh my gosh is this real and inspiring to yourself continuously but um that's huge that's so huge what you've done and at your age um anyone with that I want to say not not at your age all kids need to feel like they can do this at any age so we appreciate that you're a part of our community and everything you're doing to give back to the community and of course you get so much credit um for raising such an inspiring young gentleman thank you Miss Mick shepherdy um thank you very much for being here thank you for choosing Creighton um uh I'm very very proud of you and Mom you as well um just it's amazing thank you for inspiring your your peers and and everyone else out there you are super inspirational thank you kiddo thank you Miss Gibson McLean yeah thank you for coming you know when I was 12 I watched a lot of TV you're helping impressive um I remember I had a friend and she was a little bit older than you at the time 15 but she all she had gone to Mac and now we're older I think the coolest part is seeing how many more ideas and more businesses she's had since then and so I'm sure you're going to have a lot more that's going to happen in the future so that's exciting too if it seems like you're a creative kid as well thank you yeah um yeah thank you so much for being here we appreciate you and your story is a true Testament of why even I decided to run right it's important that we give our power and Empower Our Youth and their voices and you're doing that greatly and obviously you have a great role model ahead of you but I think you're going to be a great voice to other students that want to do this and like you said age is nothing but a number you guys are smart resilient you guys know what's in I'm apparently I'm I have I'm a mom of a 14 year old and apparently I don't know what's in anymore so um you know you know how to connect with people and that's awesome and I'm just so supportive and I'm so grateful for that you're in a school that supports that too right and I think at the end of the day that's the most important goal all of us sitting up here as board members is that you guys have that opportunity creativity and that empowerment to do what you want to do with your future so know that this is amazing and I know that I can't wait to work with you and think you you and I talked how we could get other kids involved in these things so I really appreciate your guys's time and thank you for being such a supportive parent thank you thank you for coming you have a quick question what's been your favorite part of this whole journey just what's your favorite takeaway I get to sell [Laughter] are you learning salesman skills Yeah so basically we made we made we Kings bro to inspire all the kids in like around the country to be cool the positive way and be a leader and not a follower and that I mean I'm gonna tell her the acronym Kings so the K stands for kindness the eye stands for intelligent the n stands for Noble the G stands for golly and his Z stands resilience that's amazing and it's kind of like our mission or goal of the school district too right everything that you just mentioned so we're so lucky to have you and we do donate a portion of the proceeds back to um homeless shelters and at-risk youth non-profit organizations that's awesome thank you so much for your guys's service to the community as well we appreciate you thank you thank you tonight so good to see you do you mind if we get a picture with you guys as a board police yeah yeah go ahead y'all have any kids I do uh oh you know I'm gonna be on your website tonight getting on my cart yes I'll tell y'all kids to sign up for the affiliate program yeah that's awesome we'll definitely have to connect it perfect one two three thank you thank you [Music] that was so inspiring and that brings us over to our governing board reports Miss air so I'll go ahead and start with you right so I want to begin by saying happy administrators day on Monday for all of our administrators and teacher appreciation is coming up so um thank you for all the teachers and all the work that you do every day um I know we're supposed to talk about um the classes we took and I forgot my book at home and I can't remember anything anymore because I have like 500 000 things going on at any given time um especially since I'm in the last four weeks of my my master's program and I had to do like 30 extra hours a week so I don't even know what I'm thinking anymore um the one thing that I do remember in one of the classes was and probably because I think it was the most interesting to me and it was actually given by Nea um and they were talking about like biases and how biases affect our decisions that we make every day whether we know it or not um there was like a test that you can take on there and I haven't gotten on to take it yet but maybe at the end of the May when I'm done um with our program and can actually stop and enjoy life again so it's my board report thank you so much Miss McCaleb um yes doubling down on a happy administrator principal day yes yeah today's Tuesday um and uh there's like a debate whether teacher appreciation week is this week or next week it's supposed to be the first full week in May and Sunday was April 30th I'm celebrating with my teachers this week but no matter when you're celebrating it happy Teacher Appreciation Week we love teachers um for our I wish I could be at the the what Friday is a volunteer luncheon right is that what it is um I wish I could be there but we are doing our end of year testing and all of that fun stuff in my district so I will miss it I'm sad but I hope everyone enjoys that um for nsba um just some of my key takeaways um uh sessions I went to as well as like some of the just conversations between um and some of the stuff from the keynote was definitely a huge emphasis on scl um and our mental health of our students um I recently also went to school safety Summit last week um which is a Statewide conference um that obviously deals with physical safety and and all of those hazards um but also again just everything I've been to In the last several months has been such a huge focus on mental health of our students and our staff alike so I really I know that we've done a lot of work here in Creighton on that I want to continue to do that there were some interesting resources and programs that we learned about such as Sky schools conversations about how are we making sure that our there's so many resources on this and I'd like to I'll bring it up as possible future agenda topic but um really making sure we know that cyber bullying and what our kids are getting on social media right now is one of the biggest driving factors for negative impacts on their mental health and so really just making sure that we are being much more proactive district-wide there's Partnerships such as Common Sense Media putting in anonymous tip lines and educating staff and students and parents about those tip lines all of those are huge precautionary measures that like I said not just I'm not just brought up at nsba but also the school safety Summit um and just it we don't have time to not really get ahead and in front of this with our kids because it is it's a completely different world than we grew up in um I also went to sorry my allergies are killing me after the last 24 hours of wind um we went I went to a really interesting session about Staffing um I think actually Katie and Sophia went as well and it was really about looking and I think I mentioned this at an earlier meeting briefly but um looking at organizational psychology and when we talk about retention and staff motivation and staff mental health as well um in schools in in the education field we tend to kind of operate as a silo instead of really looking at what other Industries are doing um so I won't belabor I have a ton of notes on this and I'd like to have a further discussion about it in the future um but they really pulled data in ways that other Industries pull data about staff so not just an exit survey not just a climate and culture survey but they really hone down with multiple measures um and what I found interesting is one of the things they found was the seven key factors in educational retention the first one was the district's attention and approach to supporting supporting mental and emotional health so I was like okay it keeps coming back to all of this um as well as things like the quality of professional development um society's view of the teaching profession which so again we have to focus on our locus of control um salary was in there but you know a lot of it was other things like the ability to request and secure substitute teachers the amount of planning time um so I think you know a lot of these are things that our meet and confer team and other committees are talking about and we are addressing and we've had discussions as a board about um but definitely worth looking more into the data and models that they used and looking at how we can maybe mirror that with ours and instead of Reinventing the wheel and then um lastly um I went to another and I went slain somewhere last year and I know we have our kids Congress which is awesome but I went to another session about student board members and what was cool about this is I actually got to connect with the people sitting next to me are um from Pendergast and they have an eighth grader who sits on their board um and so I was able to have a really cool discussion with them about um the session was really cool because they did talk about if you were in a state where there aren't there isn't legislation about voting rights of students which Arizona were a little behind on that they did talk about how you can Advocate they had sample um things that you can submit to your legislators to try and advocate for those changes um but then I also got to connect with a district from Arizona that is doing what they can within our current legislation so um I definitely want to investigate that more so we can improve our student voice thank you so much Miss McCaleb Miss mcsheffrey to my an SBA report um my favorite session I went to as I mentioned before was given by Pendergast um coincidentally a common sense approach to increasing employee diversity I'm not sure how long their superintendent has been there but she um was basically giving the presentation along with her whole board and it was really awesome um just thinking out of the box not you know um anything too groundbreaking some common sense thing that I think perhaps people are afraid to do and policies go along with a lot of this um uh diverse you know further diversifying um your District they do not rubber stamp their policies they evaluate them each and every time they have a policy committee made up of student staff a very diverse group the attorney is really the last one to see the policy um to do the legal approvals they don't really want the attorney too involved in the beginning the attorney should not be telling you what you cannot do but what you can do is their philosophy and I think we're trying to get there as well um one example of a policy adoption um was promotion regalia their students wanted to show their pride in their eighth grade promotion attire I see some of our schools doing this already um you know putting things you know like how if when you graduate from college you everybody put something on their hat so the kids are wearing stuff as part of their outfit they put that in policy so that's something that will not go away easily I think we heard that from our kids at the Creighton Congress how you know the middle school kids are tired of the um the uniforms um and in the dress code because they can't express themselves the way they want to um how do they find people for these committees like the policy ones so the two superintendent hosts a parent lunch and learn and she approaches people on the Fly casually and creatively you know it's not a formal um emailing or texting of people um they also partner with GCU ASU and NAU for teacher and staff pipeline they have a parap professional pipeline via GCU to get their substitute certificate most of our hourly staff are members of our community so it's a great place to have a pipeline for substitutes initially they pay Grand Canyon to do the professional development so they train a para and the teacher as well and this is done in their during their PD time on Wednesday afternoons and they will become instructional techs they have 46 people in their first cohort 35 of which are people of color you can also um partner with community colleges and she said you know are you targeting your social media there's an AZ Barrio stories page on Facebook that you know that's a place perhaps to you know to put the word out for job openings and things like that and also are you training the people on your hiring committees to look for different things sitelight based um hiring methods should be the same this is this is um and someone from Human Resources meets everyone that is before they're hired um a couple things they pointed out indigenous culture it's disrespectful to make eye contact with someone you know and that goes for people who are on the Spectrum too if and if the people on the hiring committee aren't aware of this um you know that's can be problematic um and she just said she loves the Southwest Southwest Airlines motto which is we don't hire for skill we hire for will um meaning if someone has a will you can teach them the skills but if they've got the will and drive that's really important and one of the questions she asks or that they ask you know um what will you do to combat systemic racism in your role here at Pendergrass so I thought that was pretty cool um and then also I wanted to mention um congratulations to Mr Mann I am so um looking forward to working with you I think since I've been on this board this is really one of the most United boards that we've had in a while and I think it's going to be um a nice reset a refresh um for this board in this District um so I'm I'm really happy with um a United board coming to that decision um and I'm looking forward to visiting schools tomorrow um I hope some board members will join me and then lastly I wanted to talk about um the special ed investigation that we talked about on March 28th um I was given the task by Miss Korea doll to provide vendors um and I did a lot of research on this this investigations are indeed a thing and they're usually done by attorneys but there's other professionals that do it um and it is different than an audit quite different um it is a common thing Creighton actually does investigations now and then um but I provided four different vendors on April 20th and I haven't heard anything yet um and obviously this is I find this as something very urgent to me I've been talking about it for months and months and months now um and so I provided that information and followed up with Dr Lewis today what is the status of the special ed investigation and what is the next step and she said there is there is no Department investigation um she did not take from that meeting on March 28th that we wanted to do that as a board so um that's extremely frustrating to me again um I'm being gaslit this is being obstructed over and over again so I will be calling for a future agenda item tonight um that we the board take action and vote on hiring and conducting a special ed investigation our attorney has already given us told us that it is something that is in our wheelhouse that we can do um I am so tired of the obstruction of this because I do think this is an urgent matter thank you thank you Miss Jeffrey Gibson yeah so um I guess going right off of that I I don't know if we I know we probably need the agenda item but we might also need an executive session with that depending on up because of the procurement issues so I don't know just putting that out there yeah I'm gonna I've got that on my list for a future um the other thing my gears were turning about when you were talking about Partnerships was um you know we have Gateway right in our backyard and maybe it's something that we can do because I'm all about looping in the rest of the community maybe we can get some sort of partnership going with Wilson and Gateway so that we can all benefit from some sort of pipeline or grow your own thing with Gateway Community College I think that would be a great place to start you were saying Gateway and I was thinking the elementary school I'm sorry I was talking about Partnerships so yeah Gateway Community College I'm sorry I went to school in this District when Gateway really wasn't thanks I have to remember that um so I was like what are you talking about um another thing I wanted to bring up was just how well I thought our hiring process went I'm really happy with our ability to engage the community and other stakeholders and students feedback um and also just like super happy with how we did things as a board and um congratulations to you Mr Mann um hopefully we'll figure out the contract situation soon um without any hiccups so excited to go on a new adventure with that um admin day yesterday thank you to admin we sit and listen to us every two weeks um we do your job every day um and I guess again I love bringing in history in our community and Mike Madison somebody who had a huge impact on me as a kid me and my brother used to get in a lot of trouble I was in his office a lot um luckily was never suspended outside of school but probably because we had some good conversations and my parents probably didn't have a cell phone so you know um but definitely Mike Madison who's retired now great guy super impactful on me and then another thing our teachers this week next week we don't have a meeting next week so obviously I I mean I love teachers I don't know what else to say it's like I Love Lamp right um but like I don't know what else to say other than like I had some of the most amazing teachers in this district and I know that's not something that's really changed um and if you could just think about like me sitting here being almost 36 and I could tell you that Miss Mooring Miss Petrie Miss Myers Miss Hosley Miss Merritt Miss D McAllister Miss Hager Miss Henry Miss Lockett Mr papara miss Karen McAllister Miss Pitts and Miss Collins were all my teachers in Creighton and they I still remember all of their names because of just the amendment like the immense impact they had on me and so don't lose sight of what you're doing every day and like the the benefit that you make every day and um the seeds that you plant thank you foreign hard to follow that um for nsba I guess this is the um unfortunate part of being glass I mean we kind of did the same sessions there was only so many sessions that you could attend all the information has kind of been giving um this last week I was able to attend the Family Resource Center Community baby shower and I'm just in awe and everything that our Family Resource Center does we had about I mean I think um pregnant people that came and got free food free um baby shower gifts diapers it was really fun um I'm just really enough of all the hard work that they do and how they really do Center our community and I think that's very important um I also was able to attend the Family Resource Center spring picnic that they did um within the last two weeks and that was amazing to see we did have a lot of young preschoolers so I know that those are all our next little generation of kids coming in so that's why I think it's so important to have these community events because we're letting know the community that this is a home for them and their family and that's how we start the connection so that was amazing to to be part of I also went to the A Plus of Excellence School recognition the Biltmore Prep Academy had just recently that's where one of my sons goes Fiesta Bowl was there and they presented them with a nice award it was just great to be part of that celebration to see how they really do nurture and love the bilingual dual language curriculum and everything that we're doing it was just great to see to see all that on a personal level I finished school board Partners I was able to finish that we would actually be meeting in May this has nothing to do with the school district this is separate but we'll be meeting in May with all the fellows who who finished that program and it was really great it was it was hard work it was the three-month you know every Monday on top of everything else but I'm really glad that we got to do it because it really did help with the superintendent process and how the information that they gave and giving this anti-racist lens so that was great to be a part of I'm also proud of all the community input that we had for our superintendent search I think it's important for us to toot our own horn when we do things out of the norm apparently we have been the only School District to have a student student voice Focus grouped um the guy that was with us you know he said for the past 20 years he's been doing superintendent searches and not one school district has ever had a student voice input and that was board members yes that um so I thought that was neat you know I think we always advocate for our students they they're first hand I believe in their voice they're they're not ashamed they're not scared to say what is out there and yet those are the voices that we rarely Everly literally um you know take into consideration so the fact that we've been the only school where to do that I just says a lot about the board I think um the community in-person forum for the last one we had a great turnout I think we had over I wish somebody would have taken tally but I think we had over 100 people there I'm not sure but it was a big um turnout so the fact that the community came out and we gave that space we didn't have to do that we could have done all this behind closed doors but obviously I think the sentiment of this board is very important what you guys have to say teachers community members so thank you to everybody too who's shown up and given their advice because we really did take it to heart and yeah that ends my board report so that moves us along to my iPad shut off to I move the governing board approved consent agenda items a through H in accordance with policy bebd-e can I just pull letter A really quick of course I move the governing board approved consent agenda items B through H in accordance with policy bebd-e second all those in favor aye aye um you have the floor to discuss item ization action effective date which I think is fantastic I was just curious if we might be able to add years of service in the future just so we could know maybe how long someone's been with the district when they're leaving if it's a resignation or whatever it may be it just might be interesting to see you know kind of it says higher in effect you have to math oh I guess I wasn't really I was I here's the other thing it ain't really friendly to the eye if I'm going to be honest when I looked at it I didn't even realize those other things were on there I had to read it twice yeah it's my issues but maybe we could do it it's a lot of texts just running onto itself maybe we could do like a table I know this is getting nitpicky but it's hard to just look at at a glance okay we can sorry yeah we can just get out there okay but I'll move to approve uh consent agenda item a and hopefully we can make some in accordance with b e b Dash e i second all those in favor aye aye all right that brings us to our general section and this is where we will be discussing the Arizona School Board Association proposals for the political agenda just so everybody knows Arizona School Board Association is the association where we get most of our policy services so they have uh what's called a political agenda or a political committee and they take voices of all the 260 I think we're members of 242 sorry districts in Arizona and they prioritize what they want asba's um lobbyists to basically Lobby for when it comes to like you know we should be having free preschool and you know all these different kind of things um so we as a sport will discuss if we agree if we want to make changes and give those recommendations to um the Arizona School Board Association um so this is the 2023 one so we would be saying what in addition or take away from this yes okay and um I since we are discussing this and it comes it kind of ties in I wanted us to one of the things I don't know if you guys know what happened but Arizona School Board Association ended their partnership with the National School Board Association over some stuff that happened with an executive director doing something during the pandemic and we kind of um ended those ties however I think it's important that asba goes back just because ever since asba got out of an SBA um there hasn't been any federal advocacy at that moment and federal advocacy goes hand in hand into like local and state so I would like for us to send either a letter or add in addition to that we recommend we partner up with the National School Board Association again because we're missing a lot of that advocacy for school board members on what we want our congressmen and our federal leaders to do for us at the school districts which I believe the 40 percent I think it's the 40 meeting us completely when we come to our special education that's something that hasn't been done for years and have passed so there's a lot of things that I think we can be working together to push our our federal leaders elected to be doing on our behalf so that's the that's the only thing that I don't see on here that maybe we can do but I don't know if you guys have any discussion um if you guys have any edits I think comments um two things one in China advocate for asba to join nsba is that something that would live here and US suggesting that we add it to the political agenda because I feel like these are more I don't know if it would or if it's something that would be better suited for us as a board writing a letter I guess that's a decision that we can come up with I am this could tie in into the improved outcomes for all students just because you know and I think it does just because it was the legislature who had said if we continue being members of nsba that the district wouldn't be able to pay dues yeah now was that a something that the legislature passed or just a they advise it they didn't pass they just threatened they took it off of the table I wonder if that would even fall under preserve and strengthen local control because we're strengthening our local control as a school board by having Partnerships and the power of many in asba and then even more so in nsba okay I I can see how that can live under there so yeah if we can make a recommendation within that I I agree any feedback on that no I agree too okay and I think we can do that on can I send you that submission form if you want you want to write up Sophie and then I then I commit it okay that works um oh yeah I have I have it right here my other piece was um I well I just wanted excuse me I just want to double down if we can on the supporting policy for social emotional Wellness especially in what our certain people in our state are doing right now um and then I don't know where this would live but I kind of going back to the student members of board since we don't have legislation around that in Arizona or we don't have like they don't have any voting Powers so for example some states they can have voting powers with the exception of like Personnel and you know what I mean like there's limitations because they are minors but um those are and I can get more information on what that looks like from that session but those are pieces that were passed at a state level so Governor section two or three I think there's an argument for how having more stakeholders is going to improve our local control I think but then also it could also improve outcomes for students yeah and if you can give us a because I think on May 24th we still have until May 24th to make the make these edits so if you're able to give us a little bit of information on that so we can get actual wording because I can submits are hard right now I'm sorry it's fine yeah and that would be great that way we can bring it back on proposed items and on the 24th and then we can students being involved right and Madam president there may have been a reason under the first one not to put the aggregate expenditure limit I'm scanning and scanning and looking and looking I don't see it articulated explicitly but the uh lifting of the aggregate expenditure limit may have been um I already omitted I just don't I find it hard to believe that it's not in here so there must have been a reason okay I just don't know what it is so that's a worthy discussion um the first bullet point under improve outcomes for all students is increase the compulsory attendance age from 16 to 18 years or the attainment of a high school diploma or GED before the age of 18.
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Dr McCord thank you madam president governing board members as we're switching teams here uh we're going to talk about school calendars Dr Martin and Don antisense put out a survey to our families as well as our staff with some examples of what some calendars could look like for the 24th through the 27 school years and we have those results back of people's thoughts and Mr Martin's going to share those with you here in a minute just log it in here so give me one minute please all right good evening everyone thank you madam president governing board members and Dr McCord I am here tonight as Dr McCord said to share it's hard to believe we were here two and a half years ago looking at calendars and now we're back at it again looking at these three future year calendars of course we're just ending the first year right now of the new 222 calendar for Gilbert schools and so um we wanted to do a survey to make sure how is it that both our parents and our staff are feeling about the 222 calendar now that they've experienced it for the first year so first though I'm going to go into a little bit about building a calendar you know I've learned more than about calendar building than I ever thought I would and there's a lot of intricacies some of it too is just things that go on here in the East Valley or in Arizona school districts that are common or things that we've find that are common practices that people seem to like here in Gilbert schools itself so basically what I've done whether it's a one two one calendar or a 222 calendar is I start going backwards so I start with where Memorial day ends and work backwards and simply because that's what most Arizona school districts do and it also provides two because for years no matter what calendar we've been on we have been using winter break as the semester break and so it pretty much by utilizing that marker gives you close to 90 days of in the fall and 90 days in the spring for a total of 180 school days and of course I am going to move on to the next one because if you look at a calendar as I'm going through these parts I think it kind of helps shows you some of these things too as well that we're going to talk about like foreign so here for example is the 24 25 calendar because many of the components that I'm talking about are the same for all six calendars here so like I said we try to make the 90 days of each semester as close to equal as possible we try each quarter then to be also close as possible to the 45 school days and of course it does vary a little bit too though with the when Memorial Day you use Memorial Day as a break and then also when actually winter break is with the Christmas and the New Year's holidays because that does change the calendar a bit just with the rotation over a seven year period in these two you can see always in our calendars that we always note next to each month how many school days there are so people can easily see that and then at the bottom of each calendar too you can see how many calendar or school days are for first semester and second semester to add up to that magical 180 school days that we are required to have um and all of these calendars we really keep consistency with the holidays off from year to year one thing we found from families and communities is they really like the consistency knowing when school starts those types of things so you'll see in this too actually in this proposed draft calendars whether we looked at one two one or the 222 that the first day of school in all of these is starting on a Tuesday it kind of worked that way by working backwards and plugging in the holidays and time off that we wanted but we also have heard from teachers as well as families that they do like do not like having a full five days of school the first week of school it makes for a very long week I know the few years that I was either a teacher or principal and we started on Monday with kids by about Wednesday or Thursday you were really tired and so all of these calendars do start on a Tuesday where many years we have started either on a Tuesday or a Wednesday of course teachers have 184 work work days and this three days prior to then allows them to start on a Thursday and then for our new teachers too that return a few days before that they actually start on a Monday in July as well so it's nice when we welcome our new teachers to Gilbert schools that it starts at the beginning of a week you'll notice in all of these calendars that Junior High and high school have half days at the end of each semester for final exams and then Elementary has two half days near the end of the first quarter now usually towards the end of September for those parent-teacher conference days and then of course sprinkled throughout the calendar we have four half days where students are released so that there can be professional development for our teachers and that usually is about three hours of professional development and we found that that's working very well along with the one hour of Wednesday early release in which our teachers and principals participate in the professional learning communities so when we're looking at for example this 2425 calendar here just looking backwards you can pretty much see on this too here we have the two weeks of fall break we have the two weeks of spring break that are noted in October and March something that's popular and that we've been keeping is the Wednesday prior to Thanksgiving we've heard time and time again this is about the fifth or sixth year please keep that day prior we always went through a Wednesday and we had high absenteeism both from students and parents that day I know there's been sometimes a few families that have asked hey could we have the whole week off one of the things we've tried to do with the 222 calendar is try to keep so that yes we enjoy those two weeks off but then on those nine week periods we really are for continuity purposes we're going to school as much as possible and so it's finding that fine line so if we were to give those days off then we'd have to revert back to either starting earlier or we'd go back back to like a one two one calendar which is something that we've said where we were trying to in this model move away from but one thing and you'll see it comes up is the 222 really gives almost a brain break or a mental break for our staff and that's been mentioned quite often as well as our families have enjoyed having two weeks off too and so if we start adding more days we've either got to either move the calendar up earlier in July and I will note we are still starting even though we're on a 222 calendar compared to some of our surrounding districts we're still starting almost a week later than some of those because some of those other districts put in additional days off or some districts have additional PD days where the teachers might be working but the students are off and one thing we talked about two years ago is try not to start too early in July and then keeping consistency those five day weeks or four day weeks as much as possible for that so I do have a couple questions just on the um the 222 calendar for 24.25 um so at one point we did give that Monday off in October after the break but this looks like we've we've removed that to keep us from starting earlier and then you said we we are keeping the wins day before Thanksgiving off because this has the gold color that shows it as a professional okay it's the 27th I'm looking at oh okay sorry yep sorry I guess I'm counting away so you are right when we were living the one two one calendar A lot of times I will call it really we had fall break and spring break and many times we would come back and the Monday would be off um for students sometimes for teachers depending upon where we put that 184 work days but that was one thing we talked about a few years ago as we were trying to keep it as condensed as possible if we were going to the 222 one thing that we experienced this year is for a while we took the Monday off after the Easter spring holiday weekend and this year we decided with the 222 that we would revert back to just giving the Friday of the spring holiday off and not four days so that way we could keep from starting school so early so we did do that as well too but so like I said all the holidays are pretty much the same you know some of the things too is it's still 180 school days so in terms of Community Education provides Child Care during the summer and during those breaks so whether it's a one-week break or two-week break our families do have access to our intercession or summer vik and Zone programs it's just broken up a little differently instead of having nine or ten weeks in the summer this 222 calendar has approximately eight weeks in the summer and then those two additional weeks spread out there too some of the things that we found on the 222 calendar is the operations projects Albert and his Crews have found we can do some things during the 222 I know Spectrum Elementary here on spring break actually had their multi-purpose room re-tiled during that two weeks which before we couldn't do so we are getting Innovative and knowing that the summer is scrunched but in two weeks we can do projects the other thing too is building managers and custodians are finding that all those deep cleaning projects that were historically done in the summer they can be doing some of those throughout the year at this at the fall and spring breaks as well too so that's good to know thank you now with the 222 calendar you'll see that we Norm normally do give off Spring holiday always moves around of course wherever Easter Easter is and so a lot of times it's in April sometimes it's in March and so I am going to alert you that if you move to the 2627 222 calendar um actually Easter and this year falls on Sunday March 28th so when you look at the spring holiday it it would be Friday March 26th which is actually the very end of the spring holiday when we already have it off so we talked a little bit with a few people including cabinet members and we felt like in order to keep some consistency in looking at okay so you're going to say we're coming back on Monday March 29th and there's going to be full five-day weeks all the way till the end of school on Thursday March 27th without a three-day weekend we have proposed in here of giving off Monday April 26th as just a three-day weekend um so that it does break up that quarter the other thing it does too is then when we're working backwards on the first day of school it keeps school starting consistently on a Tuesday whereas here if we didn't give that day off then we would probably start school instead of starting it on Tuesday July 28th we would start it on Wednesday July 29th and one of the things we've heard is they really like consistent calendars as much as possible so that's the one variation that we did based upon when Easter and the spring holiday would land on the 222 calendar any questions on the 222 calendar so I think I went over some of this although but one of the things that we found is dirt having the 222 calendar we have had intercession students participate um and it's been quite successful actually in the fall intercession just to give you some numbers of participants at the secondary level in the fall we had 382 students participating in one week of support in October the elementary we had almost 500 students going to one of our boot camps and here in the spring we had over 500 secondary students participating in the intercession and we had just around 250 students at the elementary so one thing is we're helping students along the way and not waiting all the way until summer and June to support students and at the secondary level it's actually been great enhancement for those core Ela math or biology classes and so students that are failing at the end of first or third quarter have the opportunity to attend class for that full week and if they participate fully participate and do the work then they have that great enhancement to get back to 60 percent which gives them then a fighting Edge for second and fourth quarter so that's been well received by many of our students and we've learned a lot too just over the first fall and spring intersession of what's working and what isn't but that was one thing that when we moved the 222 option was how can we help give our students extra support I think that was one question that we saw come up was um what are the what are the studies or is there any difference and of what I'm remembering last time there wasn't much but is there any academic like are there studies that show there's academic difference I haven't found any either of these calendars where one is so much more beneficial to students I will tell you that you can't find anything that says one is way better than the other I think one of the things we have to look at is when you look at the scheme of a 365 days a year one week whether it's adding one week at fall or spring versus the summer in the scheme of things is not a huge difference and so I think that that takes that away one of the things it has given though is for people that want to earn extra money for our teachers and support staff it's given them the opportunity to work our fall intercessions and not just the teachers and support staff but also we've had nutrition service workers as well too so there's opportunities for some of our employees that want to support our students during that one week one thing we are doing uh Miss Wood is that we are watching those students and putting them into Infinite Campus and so we're excited to see I know especially I'm watching the elementary level in particular but students that participated in the summer boot camp last June so some of them participated also fall spring and if they participate this June we'll be able this fall to start looking at data and saying okay these kids now have had an extra eight weeks of intercession Support over the last year and a half do we see anything academically that we can tie so we are we are capturing the data of who's putting that and putting it in the system so that longitudinally we will be able to study that here within with our own students that's great so if it's not if there's not a huge academic difference that we've seen in any studies or and I know we've looked before too so it's largely preference at this point absolutely that's why that's why we care about the the survey because it's preference of yep how do which do you prefer really I guess my other question would be and I know I asked you this again too was um physically do we see any huge financial differences yeah depending on you know I know yeah I've talked to Mr dutchover and there isn't a whole lot part of that's because in July 2 we are running most of the schools because teachers are there those types of things as well whether so when we were on the one two one calendar we still had most of those rooms and hallways chilling just because we were had people in the building so we haven't seen a tick of a cost and it's it's with the one week earlier right in the summer it's it's not necessarily I don't know that that surprises me because it's not like we're talking about six weeks of the summer you know so okay those would be my those are my questions so thank you yeah some of these things too here of course Sports and extracurricular activities still go on sports are governed by the AIA types of things so that still happens this does have and you'll see in the survey here in a minute this does give additional time for family activities and vacations throughout the year and that was one of the responses um so we know that yeah while there's one or two less weeks in the summer does give families uh time to go do things throughout the rest of the year too of course as I mentioned child care costs really are the same because we're still looking at 180 school days it's just spread out differently throughout the year and then depending upon your Viewpoint and you'll see this in the survey in a minute whether the Arizona climate whether the 222 works better versus the one two one is very much a family perspective or staff perspective as well too so it's those individual thoughts on that as well too so real quick going to the one two one version I'm not going to spend too much time on that because like I said other than just having one week of fall break and one week of spring break all the other holidays and including the two weeks off at winter break are the same as the 222 calendar we still end on Memorial day just to give you a little a look at start dates looking at the calendar if we are to stick with the 222 calendar and the dates that we give off basically we can expect school to start anywhere between about July 22nd and July 28th using our calendar and the days off if we were to go to a one two one and using the same pattern of days off we would look at between about August 3rd and August 9th or 10th and so there's not like I said a huge difference in fact when we went from the one to one calendar to the 222 calendar it was nine calendar days difference because we did take out some of those extra days off that we used to give so I would say one difference between the 222 and the one two one is if you have family out of state and they live in a state where they start school after Labor Day and don't end until the middle of June it does make it hard to find you know some time between the middle of June and pretty much the middle of July you've got four weeks to try and figure out a visit with those family members you are correct mostly in their state because it's too hot in our state so looking at the one two one calendars the one difference is of course because the spring holiday lands outside of that one week off the students we would actually give off that Friday March 26th because it would be the spring holiday so they would have the holiday off right at the beginning and then they would go for about eight weeks but that's actually similar to what's the calendar is coming up for the 23-24 school year next year we're going to experience coming back from two weeks of spring break and then having the week or the spring holiday off but that's the one difference is we didn't have to put in that extra day off because it automatically came up so talking about what is it that other surrounding school districts are doing because that's always interesting as well too of course we have some districts in the East Valley that have done this for years such as Chandler Queen Creek and most recently about five years ago Higley but you'll see uh Apache Junction has now joined that and for this upcoming school year we have several school districts joining the 222 calendar including I call it the trifecta of Kyrene Tempe Elementary and Tempe Union that all service the same area they are moving to a calendar similar to what we have and then evit which of course is the career in technical school that Services many East Valley districts they are actually this fall moving to the 222 calendar and so really the one remaining District in the East Valley that is choosing to stay with the 121 calendar is Mesa and I can tell you anecdotally I've been talking to some North Valley School Districts and West Valley School Districts that are moving to that and my guess is in the next few years we will see more districts throughout the valley moving to the 222 just based upon what I've talked to Deer Valley and Peoria school districts as well too so so just one one thing I have to ask is about student Sports especially High School sports um how does that interact with our calendar our 222 calendar so like I said the AIA calendar governs that so they still have games but we had games when the one week was off those types of things too now I know some coaches have uh they they told their students or their families hey these three or four days like at the beginning of fall break or spring break we're gonna have optional types of trainings or things so that if they wanted to but um you know AIA governs all Arizona Sports so we cover depends it doesn't matter what your school district calendar is really a lot of times like let's just take football for instance um they will they will look at calendars of other school districts when they're trying to calendar things and and if you're on a 2-2-2 they they usually get a bye week and sometimes they they might it might fall during one of those two weeks but also at the same time if um rarely do these kids have any time off to begin with it's just part of playing sports in the fall winter or spring and and those breaks are there but um a lot of times they're still practicing coaches like Jason said will try to maneuver around it because they they need a break too but generally they're they're all staying in town and they're all still practicing so yeah okay okay thank you but but we did during the summer too right yes it's Non-Stop so it's kind of that philosophy if you sign up for that sport you know that during that season I'm not a sports person because I like some time off so moving along to the survey communication results so we did want to survey like I said our families so the survey was sent out to both parents and staff on April 10th and they had from April 10th to 20th to complete this survey we sent out another reminder in the staff and family newsletters it's GPS together in the connect create care newsletters on April 12th and then a final reminder was sent out to staff and family so they had plenty of opportunities and reminders to complete this and this just kind of shows you the history of our surveys and the responses and so you can see where parents back in 2018 still favored the one to one calendar and then of course all of you remember that then two years ago or three years ago the 222 calendar squeaked by with parents saying okay we'll go to that and now amazingly you'll go all the way to 75 percent of these respondents that took the survey recently now that they've lived through the first year of the 222 have said we love of the 222 or we prefer that so over 25 percent difference they're um moving towards that and then staff we know staff have for years favored this calendar and you can see also too they went from 65 percent in 2020 to 87 percent favoring this calendar in 2023. Dr Martin are you concerned that we only had 6 300 responses from parents I know that our numbers we might not are maybe our number of parents has also gone down total but yeah it hasn't gone down that much yeah but what we've talked a little bit Don annistennis and myself and others um and having done research lately myself too is when people are happy with something they don't tend to respond to surveys as much too I will say too just anecdotally we're hearing two of just survey fatigue not just in schools but people just aren't taking as much surveys as always recently but one of the things I think now that people before always we weren't on the 222 calendar but people knew we were studying it so I think there was more more people were willing to participate we're here now they're like well we're living the 222 calendar so we're not going to take the time to do that but also there has I don't think the board has received one negative email we have I think that we have I haven't said at least one it might not okay more than that it hasn't been that many but they're just saying there wasn't yeah there wasn't if there was one I don't remember receiving one but they were there weren't even 10.
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right okay so you are donating or allocating as the developer the additional six yes okay thank you uh the second question was about the um sustainability via the solar panels and obviously uh commissioner Mills spent some time with you there but again I was confused because I think I heard you say uh that you weren't able to get the funding for the roof through the TEF and 2017. correct but then were there other barriers to prevent you from building it yourself well the other economic barriers I mean 2017 to again to I'm talking about now I think I understood what you were oh right your answer was so the barrier now is the you can't the building's built so so you cannot build a roof no on top of the parking structure to get the 30 000 square feet no we can't be no okay okay I think that's it thank you anybody else okay I just have a um I know we can't legislate the electrification but I would like to make you uncomfortable I guess that's what I'm saying um because uh I know we can't make you do that I know also that you're in a unique position and that you had this go through before and that a lot of your infrastructure was put in before which in my mind is a different thing in some ways than other projects and so that's part of why I'm not going to be quite as vocal as I usually would be on this because I am aware of what it means to go through this process and the planning that is involved in order to be able to make that happen so um I'm wondering what can be done um like you know do you have gas stoves or do you have electric stoves are there ways that your hot water heaters can I mean I think there's a reason that Mr stahlberg said he's changing hot water heaters and um you know things like that because that's pretty low hanging fruit and easy to do he did not say that he is converting all of his Heating and Cooling to Electric in the unit city has because that is a much harder lift to make and I get it that like some of the infrastructure is already put in for some of those things and likely your panels sized for certain things too but I'm just wondering what you can do within the confines of like us not being able to ask you but in in terms of making you do anything but are there things that you can do in terms of other ways even if it's not the heating and cooling piece which is I know a very heavy lift in terms of how you structure the building and things like that but in terms of some of the other things are there ways that you could become more Electric in terms of the the what you're drawing from our system in terms of gas sure well I appreciate the question and we do have for example in the units we use electric dryers so that helps they're not gas fired we already do that and I did talk about how in the parking deck we fully expect that that will scale up over time and you will see very significant amounts of EV charging and the deck over time so those are a couple ways that we can make meaningful steps toward that what about all I mean there even from two years ago there's a huge amount of press around the safety of gas stoves things like that I think people are I think it's a really different world than it was when you came through in 2017 with some of these things and frankly the whole sustainability piece I think has changed a whole lot since when you came through before but I think there is public concern and public kind of curiosity and way more public acceptance of induction versus gas and I'm just wondering like what you know what are you seeing from your end and are there ways that you could I think it's a good question I hope what I've conveyed I hope I've done a good job of conveying it is a landlord to be successful we have to cater to the needs of our tenants and their desires so we talked about the EV charge animals but as that's demanded we'll have more of it to the extent that we were to see that the tenants were to demand the induction cooking versus the gas ranges that's something that if the tenants if there was a human cry to have that kind of amenity we would we would do that we haven't seen that yet we've seen tenants that are pleased with with the appliance packages and the systems that we have in the building but for anything that we do I mean ultimately the what the tenants really if there's a if there's a demand from the tenants that they want something we very strongly consider how to give it to them we want them to be happy we want them to choose our building over other buildings where they could choose to live one of those things that is actively evolving very quickly right now in terms of that I mean just in the last year I think there's just been a huge amount of press that was like silent two years ago or very much at the fringes you might consider yourself being a leader with that in terms of providing some of those things for people because I think a lot of young people are and this is I'm assuming who most of your tenants are are people that are working at the hospital and and students that are there and things like that that are in the medical school um I think that's where things are going and just from a from a marketing perspective that's something that could set you apart frankly from other buildings that are around in terms of your package you know with some of those things I have an induction stove it works great you know it boils water so much faster than any gas stove does so it's something to to again we can't make you do this stuff but it's something that you all should really consider I think it's actually an opportunity for you in terms of who you're marketing to to think about some of those things and um again like hot water that's something that you might be able to consider too with electric electrifying that so again I know we can't make you do these things but I do want to push the envelope and just see what is possible and perhaps you all can kind of think about this between now and and City Council in terms of some of these considerations um I'm generally supportive of the project I think that we totally need density in this area I completely get the retail thing I appreciate commissioner sove's kind of summarization of that I'm supportive of it in many ways it's one way I just wish that you could be leaning a little bit more with some of those things and again I think you're kind of in a different category in terms of where you fall in the approval process so I'm cutting you some slack in terms of my intensity around some of this stuff um but uh I would ask you to think about some of those things because you know right now you know you haven't bought the stoves likely you know what I'm saying it's like there or maybe you have I don't know but there's some thing there's some opportunities there that I think could work for you too in terms of where this is going you were you were thinking ahead on the the EV charging I think this is an area where you actually could be thinking ahead in terms of some of your appliances okay understood thank you anybody else okay um are we ready for a vote I am if you are everybody any nothing Brewing nothing Brewing okay listen alrighty uh let's uh so the motion as presented commissioner Lee yes commissioner clerk yes commissioner White yes commissioner Gabe Randall yes commissioner Abrams yes commissioner sovay yes commissioner Mills yes commissioner Hammerschmidt yes commissioner dish yes motion carries okay we are on to item number nine which is the downtown premium evaluation oh I have to recuse myself for project interest in the district area sounds good thank you welcome thank you I'm not as tall as the gentleman who went before my name is Megan massiminock I'm with Carla Wortman Associates I was here before you um about a month ago to talk about downtown premiums and what we're going to do what we'd like to do tonight is to go over assumption agreements and goals that and policy approaches that we revised based on your input and then talk about what policy approaches should be discussed with stakeholders and who those stakeholders should be so and then there's a PowerPoint queuing up but I can also riff without it in um one thing that was in the PowerPoint that will be up soon is the map of eligible properties for premiums and wanted to start our discussion tonight with just a reminder that this is a small area of the downtown overall there are a lot of properties that aren't eligible for premiums at this point and then also last time we had talked about how zoning is a bit of a blunt force tool and just to keep that in the back of your mind as we're going through this because you're talking about maybe how to change that tool but it still has the limitations in it being zoning so I hope we can all agree to that see not all right next slide we've already gone over the agenda let's go on the next one this is the map and so the brown areas are and the brown and green areas are all the areas that are Zone D1 and D2 the green areas are those that are eligible for for premiums at this point and the ones that are in Hatch so they're green but they're hatched out just a little bit those have been developed in the past 15 years and so when we're looking forward probably those aren't going to be eligible for premiums because those buildings likely will not be redeveloped yes yeah of course um can you just quickly remind me what makes a property ineligible for premiums yes absolutely um it is ineligible if it is in historic district or if it is in the flood plain and in terms of the flood plain it's even if one square inch of it is in the flood plain um Alexis did I miss anything because I know that you're the expert on it okay then commissioner whitecheza yes on the floodplain um there's a lot of the city that sits in that yes and is that a UDC restriction or is that a state restriction I don't know if that's you or staff um that is sorry that so that you understand where I want to go with the question can we change it uh yes okay um it is a self-imposed restriction I believe we can remove it yes okay um I would only qualify that um no no qualifications thank you we have we have chosen to say um any part of the site touches you are not eligible and I think that was a conscious choice not to put any pressure on development in the flood plain uh I think we can change that um we can change that those parameters but I don't think we can just uh promote or allow development literally in the flood plain when it's prohibited but we can modify um our premium regulations to say maybe as long as the building is not in the flood plain or something along those lines so I guess I did a walking tour and the I always get street names wrong when I try to recall them from my head so where Blank Slate is yeah that's um first and that first in Liberty that whole section is like in the flood plain yeah even if it's 15 feet above grade like you know we can't even go up because any part of that property sits in there and that's what I'm asked that's what I'm trying to understand it sounds like we've imposed a restriction on ourselves yes on something that if you just look diagonal you'll see the why and it's sitting up on you know 12 or 15 feet and it's built right there and we just discussed 415 Washington which is going to be in not in the flood way way but in the flood Fringe and so I just want to like in this part of the conversation I it would be helpful like whatever you bring back to us whenever we see it that there is some acknowledgment that this is a self-imposed restriction and that if it's in the UDC it can be amended now there may be reasons why we don't want to do that there may be people who would say not to do that I think all of that comes at the appropriate time I just don't want to say hey all of this is off the table because it's in the flood plain when in fact we could build above you know whatever the state whatever the the federal laws would be to make it safe so and we can't build in the flood way so there's a distinction there in terms of what commissioner white is saying the floodway and the blood flaring each of them have different restrictions commissioner dish I guess I appreciate very much what commissioner watch is bringing up and maybe it would be helpful to have another kind of cross hatching for uh Parcels that a little bit of it touches the flood plain um because I think anything that's entirely in the flood plain it's going to be a hard sell to put a tall Residential Building in there on stilts um okay so I'd be interested how you know how many is that really true of that it's just a little bit right so what I'm hearing from you is when we come back one of the things that could possibly be on the table is what makes a par a parcel eligible for premiums and can the Restriction that's currently dealing with floodplains be alleviated or lifted entirely and what would those what would that look like in terms of mapping scenarios it is what I am asking for I don't know that I have authority to ask you to do it I feel like you and I might be asking for different things yeah I think you're asking for two different Maps what you're asking for is is the you know is it possible to lift that restriction entirely in terms of floodplain and what I hear from you is that it would also be interesting to see um and to see how the floodplain affects each parcels and which Parcels are entirely in the floodplain and which is it only a portion where possibly a building could be built outside of the flood plain yeah okay because we again one represents the whole city and there are people of and I am one of them who feels that climate change is upon us and the biggest effect not to speak from anecdotal recent weather evidence is that more and more rain is going to be how we have climate change in Michigan and I think in terms of future proofing our city I don't want to go selling our our floodplain overlay District which we just passed and say now oh buyer's remorse we didn't mean to you know we really don't mind if people's houses flow float away so uh not that we you know ever said that but it but I think it's a difference no I I was not saying that you were saying that um I was attributing that to ourselves on Council you know oh no I didn't know I was doing um but I do think that the way you specified it that if any part of the parcel touches the flood plain there's a difference to me between a parcel that is in a flood plain and a parcel that is 25 or 10 in a flood plain and there we've seen we see that difference reflected in the way we are the city is currently developing city-owned sites so I wouldn't find that inconsistent with our practice okay so um great thank you for the input um and we'll we'll fold that into the process as we go forward um and in terms of going forward really the purpose of the meeting tonight if you could go to the next slide please um again is to discuss what policy options should be shared with stakeholders because that's the next step and who those stakeholders should be so that's where we want to spend the meat of the discussion tonight but we spent a lot of time with you last month and wanted to report back and make sure that we got things right in terms of assumptions and goals in the next slide so we revise the assumptions um and I can read them off if that would be helpful and then what we really want to know is um are does this reflect what we talked about and are there any changes that are needed in order for us to go forward in the process so the first assumption is that an equilibrium of development types and land uses in downtown is important and residential office and Commercial are core uses to be continually balanced in the downtown I'm going to pause after each one and ask for comments so any comments on this one all right next one developing the downtown is more difficult and more expensive than elsewhere in the city since the last amendments to the premiums in 2019 the affordable housing millage provides dedicated funding source of excuse me provides a dedicated funding source for necessary affordable housing but millage funds may not be sufficient to be the sole source of affordable housing funding and that we changed based on your input from last time and can we pause I thought I saw some movement down there after after the um the second one is that commissioner Lee did I see you yeah no I'm just looking at the the format basically I was saying yes okay board their land is a little more expensive staging is more expensive so oh let's just saying oh okay I wasn't sure if uh and just try to get the format correct as far as like engagement purposes but I agree with both of those points on the first one my question is going to be you know what does equilibrium really mean right what does balance mean and I think that that's kind of always a trick is you know how much Civic um spaces are appropriate what what does equilibrium truly mean as far as retail offices support retail uh you know a lot of the restaurant tours said hey we don't have office population back due to hybrid so you know we have decreased lunches so um how much residential is appropriate so I think striking that balance I agree with the statement I think the Assumption holds the the trick is going to be really what constitutes equilibrium and and that that's going to be continuously morphing so great thanks okay it's also kind of interesting to think about if there are a lot of people that are working from home do we need to start thinking about neighborhoods in different ways in terms of some of those opportunities for commercial just a thought that's outside of what this is but just kind of a bigger a bigger conversation for us to think about because I know that that's I've heard some things in California around that work like San Francisco it's like all of a sudden the neighborhood Cafe thing is getting a lot more intense use than the downtown one was because people are wanting to get out of their homes to be able to interact with others so again not part of this thing but I think it's something for us to kind of be thinking about in terms of that whole balance piece that you brought up yeah thanks all right uh assumption number four a significant number of properties in the downtown are ineligible for premiums okay see nods all right um current downtown residential development is either high-end low-scale residential buildings or student housing the current market does not support building of attainable high density housing downtown and that was a change way I see nods and attainable I'm assuming you mean sort of like maybe maybe like a very writings exactly yeah yeah so that kind of yeah um attainable technically means usually um anywhere I think up to a hundred percent Ami um that 60 to 100 Ami that you can with one third of your income you could afford purchase housing which is a different definition than what affordable housing is under that Federal definition and this was where last time it said missing middle and we were like yes yes good at it okay I still don't know about the comma in the first sentence the second comma but I don't anyway oh okay it's two things right skill resident residential it's either it's high-end low scale that's it's there's two things right so no comments maybe is there a slash in between them is there could you just change it and say student housing or high-end low yeah I'm a low-scale residential buildings flip-flop it and then it makes a lot more sense yes aren't you glad you're playing tonight I love grammar and I am fine with it right no but I am fine with the group helping I did comedy and proving College I can handle it all right um so uh attainable density in the downtown not only provides places for present and future in our rights to live but also influence influences Regional sustainability by providing access to housing in a walkable mixed-use place okay the last phrase isn't clunky okay great um and then current premiums are not being utilized due to a variety of reasons pretty simple yeah pretty okay so we can all agree to these assumptions going forward and as documentation happens these are the justifications for the reasons of taking any action that results out of the process all right great work all right if we can go to the next slide also last time we looked at a variety of goals and you slimmed them down to these three increase the portability of housing downtown increased sustainability including Energy Efficiency in the downtown and increase equity in the downtown so I wanted to again make sure that these three are correct in terms of what you wanted in terms of goals and then also do welcome any copy editing all right I'm seeing nods and usually I take silences agreement but I see a thumbs up and then I see a finger yeah in a very nice way not not that um so I know I just want to make sure that this would be encompassed in this where we're thinking about potential um maybe Regional isn't or District um wide like geothermal or things like that that they kind of could like I don't know if that is part of how we think about any of these things or is this all private development and not like because I know the DDA is doing some sort of study on that um I would be I just think that it would it's interesting to think about how we could help facilitate that within the private sector if we were able to have some public infrastructure that made it easier for people to be able to make good choices around things I don't know if that's completely outside of what we're talking about here but everything is a little piecemeal thing that we do so I would love to like think about some bigger things that could tie some stuff together I think it's part of increasing sustainability but I think that what you're getting is sort of part of the conversation of with stakeholders I mean that's some of the feedback we want to hear right what are the obstacles from those Property Owners being able to successfully do so and so um I sort of see that as maybe part of that conversation is what Beyond regular the regulatory framework what are the infrastructure items that the city should be thinking about in order to accomplish that yeah kind of we're getting necessarily to the degrees kind of thinking of how we can be set things up for set people up for success I can I want to jump in with a comment um I feel that your that your comment is encompassed in the goal yeah but you have a detail of how to accomplish that goal that there's ways to accomplish increased sustainability in downtown by doing it privately for your own development on site but perhaps one of the options one of the premiums would be somehow contributing whether it's land or something contributing a piece so that could be joined with other pieces um so I don't I I think that's like the next step but I think it's a great comment but and I think that the the Nugget is in the goal but what you're fast forwarding to is maybe a um implementation strategy I totally agree with that and I kind of invent it in that way I wanted to make sure that the way that we're framing it allows for that kind of thing to even be considered I guess is what I'm thinking of so that um you know who knows maybe all these areas in the flood plain could be used for geothermal Wells you know what I'm saying it's like there there may be some ways for us to kind of think about how synergistic opportunities come up for things like that that um you know we're not we we're not putting the building on it but we can you know stuff it for geothermal and that somehow the city is part of that and again I I know that that's a strategy not a goal but I just want to be able to kind of make sure that we're not just thinking of our little piecemeal things as we're going along private site by private site but also not ignoring potential ways for us to encourage people to be able to um have sustainable practices in their building and designing oh thank commissioner Lee okay um how about uh as far as revised goals how about just increase housing like period uh just wondering if that that for discussion because obviously I think there's overlaps right increasing Equity also means improving affordability it means so so I mean there's there's a lot of overlap um the question is should one of the goals related to premiums be just pure add more housing I don't know or just simplify but just throw that out there can I piggyback on that um because and I I don't know if this is already if this is encompassed in equity or affordability or not but I think it's important to increase the diversity of housing like different kinds of housing so that it isn't all it's not just that there's either expensive student Towers or expensive low-rise condos but it's also that there just isn't there isn't multi-family housing yeah of you know any sort of accessible right other I mean a condo that's not multi-family it's not large-scale multi-family is what I'm trying to say and not getting out yeah yeah I would 100 be friendly with that concept of increase diversity of housing so housing and diversity yeah well so what I'm hearing are three things number one is it the volume of housing is it the sheer number of units is it the diversity of the types of units also that and is it the affordability of the units that ties in with both I think right like it could and it could not it depends on how you look at it in terms of you know does affordability mean that it has to be subsidizer that they have to be affordable in perpetuity because if you're just increasing the number it could increase the affordability at that time in the market but 20 years later it may not be guaranteed um and when we went through this round before I remember when we were talking about affordability stakeholders were very concerned that affordable units that were built now wouldn't be so in 20 years so I think you have three concepts amongst you I think it's important for you to Define what's what's important or whether you want all three of those discussed with stakeholders so I do want volume and diversity and I'm a little bit torn no I'm very torn about affordability because if it's affordability strictly speaking I'm not sure that we're going to get that out of what we're trying to do here which is make a difference to our premiums in downtown not saying that we can't you know we are developing affordable housing on city-owned sites that are in downtown but I'm not sure if that can be achieved here and one thing that I've read which I never know is true but I liked it when I read it was that the things that you build today as you know nice attractive Market housing in 20 years they're less expensive than what you're currently building and so some of the ways that we get housing in a more reachable price range is simply through the Aging of the stock that was built and that probably does not hold as true for single-family homes that can hold their value in a place like Ann Arbor where Supply is tight but for the rental housing at least some of the student stuff that we built that was built 10 years ago is relatively less expensive compared to the new things so so their volume and constant stuff in the pipeline would be giving us affordability the volume part would be giving us affordability there so would it be then increase the diversity and number of dwelling units downtown downtown yes okay that makes sense to me so I I hear yes here yes yeah I would like to go back to commissioner Lee's original recommendation which was just increasing housing downtown I think the affordability and the diversity of the housing can be captured in the equity um and then my other comment on the revised gold since this is from a planning point of view the do we need to are there Provisions in Michigan's planning law that allows us to create Heating and Cooling districts so when we get into the sustainability are there things that we would need to change in the UDC to permit those possibilities so like Detroit has its steam system right yeah provides Heating and Cooling to like 30 square miles in the city is that managed at some level with a planning overlay no usually what happens is it's a city ordinance that would require or usually require that anything in that District hook up to it um so like for instance that would be out of scope for us that would be out of school that would leave our table Yeah so in this sustainable sustainability and Energy Efficiency then all we're looking at is the development I wouldn't say that that's necessarily true so let's say the DDA is successful in creating a um geothermal a geothermal a geothermal District which they create essentially what's a utility um let's say for some reason um it's an optional it's an opt-in one of the things you could do is then to use the premium as a way for as the carrot to get them to opt in now that's like three hops that's three what ifs but I wouldn't say that you should close the door on looking at the premiums being a place where you can incentivize some things like that if you can't require them it would be better to require um I guess what I'm what I'm trying to figure out is ultimately we heard from the DDA that the thing that they need in the DDA are people and the landscape that we live in has radically changed that is to say people they lost between three and six thousand persons in the downtown through office and if what we are ultimately trying to do is replace just for a placeholder those three to six thousand people then I'd like us to be clearer that that is our goal if our goal is more than that then we that this is what we're doing but in order for the downtown to be viable they need people and housing doesn't replace the sheer density of people the way an office does so we'd have to build a lot more housing than what is currently permitted and what is currently available in order to achieve the sheer number that they lost because of covet and so that's why I was asking like in the scope the issue really is we we need more housing we need to be able to permit more housing downtown and I I want to be clear that that is our goal and I feel like these other things are going to restrict us from achieving that goal unless that's not actually our goal to your point of what these revised goals look like and and then I'm trying to understand like oh is the sustainability the heating and cooling because then that is inside planning so we would say here's a heating and cooling overlay District that is here but like I I'm trying to get rid of all of the the menu of items because everyone continues to say that too many menu options make it difficult to figure out what to do and I think we heard from Miss DeLeo at a meeting where she was like developers are confused and they're just like can you explain this can you explain this can you explain that and we're now getting to a point where we're trying to permit the thing we want to do unless I am I mean I could be over here on the island all by myself but this is what I'm what I'm sensing so I think if I may which is probably on the next slide like the idea of or in the in the um staff report the report that you prepared for us right like there was the voting results from last time the small menu or no incentive and just increase density I think I know which Camp you're of I think that there's also some people that are saying small menu so I think right now this is a smaller menu than what it was before one of them I think though because the that that no incentive increased density this doesn't get at the just more housing units and so I think that that alone probably makes sense as as its own goal because I think that that's one of the things that like is a goal and then what I heard from before and you guys can tell me if I'm I'm making this up is that the increase so that make that the first one maybe the sustainability I want that still be on the menu because even with geothermal like there's more efficient buildings are going to use less of it okay so and then but the third one The increased equity in the downtown what I heard was affordability and mix of units get us towards that like that that can fit in there but that's actually one of the questions that I started with is what do we see in increasing Equity downtown that it like I see I see overlap maybe not complete overlap but I see some overlap between that and affordability but I'm just trying to think why they're distinct so now if we go towards the just more units sustainability and accessibility like affordability attainability you actually use that in the previous one if that's what we mean by Equity then I think that that those are the three things that I thought we were potentially going for here so let me throw something out yeah based on what you said is um the first goal changes to increase housing downtown very simple second goal remains the same and third is increase equity in downtown through accessibility attainability and diversity of units and diversity of housing types does accessibility mean affordability or something else accessibility usually means that there's barrier-free assuming like okay I see yeah uh Universal Design okay do we need affordability and attainability attainability in there does attainability include affordability and attainability usually includes affordability it could be either or we could take out accessibility and have affordability attainability and no I think I think we should leave in accessibility yeah I think affordability can be subsumed in attainable attainability okay and I think I'm going to just bring up what uh commissioner dish said the last time we had this conversation is you actually mentioned um uh sort of intentional exclusion of individuals having access to the downtown and so you were thinking of initiatives like in Grand Rapids where they have um a black business district or something like that as we were making these changes I don't know if you wanted to bring that forward into this part but that was a part of what I heard you say about Equity I don't know how that gets us to housing and that I'm just really trying to make sure that I know what we're talking about and what we can do at this table Yeah and and this seems to be all about permitting things and so we want to make sure that we can permit as much of what we want and I just want to be clear about what it is we want that I mean Equity means so many different things so like what are we actually trying to achieve with this right is my big question I think I know but I think in the effort of not trying to be confusing right and so I think if we have those qualifiers after increase equity in the downtown through accessibility attainability and diversity of housing types that speaks to what the equity means in that sentence well maybe um I mean are we talking racial Equity are we talking social Equity like like so all of it the what you turn in your microphone please the phrase by means of helps specify the equity so we're talking about maybe I don't know I I mean I don't yeah but also know the limitations of the tool so it's part of zoning and so really you can open things up in zoning but in order to repair harm where cities have been most successful is there in addition to opening things up through their zoning to make sure there's not barriers there's programming that repairs the harm or evens the playing field and what that wouldn't be a zoning ordinance Amendment because it's it's not it's not equipped for that what you could do if you felt that that was important is as you developed amendments you can make recommendations to city council to say we feel that it would be important or to the DVA to have programs that go along with this I mean so it's more about I mean we we could say increase Equity through those things you just said we could get the exact same type of people that we have living downtown like living in those units so I'm I'm just like I'm stuck on the word equity um without like qualifying it couldn't we also have um like I've heard there there have been things that have come to the table where a developers said I'm building this but I'm also doing a student project to teach Trading for these this development for a passive house I think maybe the division house guys right and everybody was like oh that's a really great thing um but I don't know how that comes into play with a a UDC amendment I could see that in the development agreement right like oh this development is going to sponsor this program which is a way that we get to equity because folks who have been intentionally excluded from this trade are going to learn this skill as they develop this house and that's you know sort of a laudable goal that we have but I just don't I'm struggling to see how we do it in the UDC so maybe one suggestion would be to just say increase accessibility affordability and diversity whatever and just take the equity out of it with an acknowledgment that those are the tools we have and yep it's maybe more yes we can't guarantee that we're actually gonna like yeah I'm struggling with that word I think it's an important word we have to Define what we mean right right so in 1970 the city was designing one acre lots to exclude black people from buying so a equity response to that is like all right here's how we're going to fix that but we have to Define that and I don't think that's what you were proposing I don't want to speak for you no that's not what I was that feels like so maybe that goes back to staff somewhere to say how do we write the historical wrongs in our planning as we go forward so that we keep that um an eye on that right like Bank of America just announced that they're helping people with closing costs in Ann Arbor because the cost of housing is too high I was just like oh like that seems very practical whether you like Bank of America or not but that's like a way to sort of level it and it's only available to people up to 94 000 of household income so it it's exclusionary in one sense but it's helping others in another sense but I don't hear that that's what you were proposing no that's not what I'm proposing and as a planning consultant I would say that the most appropriate place for that is in your comprehensive plan and to have deep Community discussions and conversations about what Equity means and how the city wants to go forward right so I think one one option would be to strike Equity I think another option would be if people felt it was important to have a kind of value declared in the third goal would be to say anybody who wants to live downtown can live downtown or something like that which includes kind of accessibility attainability and different types of units which what's that I'm sorry it's just not really true in our current landscape their goals but how would we achieve that how could we measure so what are the measurable ways that we would know that we've achieved that so let's just strike it always and just increase accessibility yeah so the third goal goes to increase accessibility attainability and diversity of housing types you literally mean accessibility in terms of ADA because that is already in the building right like we don't need to say that because it's already mandated it's been mandated for decades all right so how about everything has to be done like you cannot build well is it adequate right I mean it hasn't been at the table we've asked for additional things that one development on Miller we we set the whole thing back and had engineering redo it so that you could access it from the street even though it was on that pitched Hill and where does for Universal Design Within units that's not required necessarily by Ada but Interiors where the you know you don't have the door jambs or things like that and The Hollies are so kind of beyond what we require by by building code yes what we're getting at yeah okay so just so we realize that means your units get bigger it means you're I mean it it's so just again like just so that we have our eyes open about what that means it's it's like all of the everybody we all want so many different worthy goals this is the this is the hard part so do we have everything be accessible and that all of those door jams are wide and all of the bathrooms are bigger so that no the wheelchair can turn around okay so does that then mean that we are like saying that it has to be more than whatever like the percentage of accessible units are more than what I mean I just think we need to be aware of what we're actually I think we can ask for that I think we could account and then with the goal of increasing it we could see whatever we decide whether the count increases after we set sort of these goals I hear you I hear you saying like make sure you understand what you're what you're actually saying and I don't think we're saying every unit has to meet a baseline standard outside of the building code I see this as we want to make sure that what commissioner Abram said anyone who wants to live downtown can and that they're not just permanently excluded because of what's being built and so forth so I I'm I'm comfortable with it but commissioner Mills here and we can always return to these later tonight sure or later in the processary worthwhile conversation we need to separate them out because if there's actually all this discussion because those three things are different and different people are going to feel differently about those three things that we've now put together in one goal and so I just wanted I want to name that and I don't know that we have to solve it I mean you tell us if we have to solve this tonight no you don't have to sell this tonight you have to solve it by the end this is actually a really important thing because again what we're talking about here is not any requirements weren't talking about incentives so it especially going to the next thing I'm trying to move us along menu versus no menu right like this is that's a fundamental thing and if we like I'm guessing that the universally accessible thing would be done in a different way you know like how you would do that than a mix of units or affordability or a attainability um if you will like right like so I just wanna I wanna I thought we we might need to separate them out and now it's getting to be a long list and then problematic but we can take a longer list to the stakeholders and get feedback and there might be things where we would hear from developers to say that's going to be really confusing or difficult or going to um another border commission within the city and hearing no that's yes that's absolutely one of our priorities or no can you think about this um so why don't we for right now move over to the policy approaches feedback talk about stakeholders and then we're going to circle back to goals at the end does that work that's good okay so thank you next slide so when we had a discussion last month at the very end I asked each of you to tell me to tell us small menu large menu no incentive um and there was not a lot of support for the large menu which is the status quo um there was a fair between the two between the Commissioners there was more some more support it seemed for a small menu than no incentive at all and um so in our memory we kind of fleshed out maybe what those would work look at look like and also suggested a hybrid model so that if you were going to look at not using the premiums at all an option then is to just increase That Base far to the current far premium maximum and so that's 900 far for D1 and 400 far for D2 and these are just examples to have you think about it to give you something to work off of or you could keep the density as it is and offer a small menu um for those premiums again within those same ranges another option is also to do both is to increase the base far A little bit let's say 600 in the D1 and 300 in the D2 and then still keep that small menu for the things that you know that you can't require and that you want so our next step is to go to stakeholders and talk to them about this what I wanted to know from you is of these policy approaches and different options what do you want us to talk to them about and I think we can take all your ideas and meld them together I don't think we need to have the whole group agree to one list if that's okay with you okay so do you want to just do it popcorn or go work from one way to another word we'll start with you and work this way commissioner yeah so I I really appreciate you hearing me and I I saw my comments reflected in your menu and I was like oh that's exactly what I wanted which was uh the maximum far at 900 and the maximum bar at 400 without the incentives and I think um for me the thing that I was wrestling through was if the goal is to get more housing in the downtown then I want to do the the thing that does that the best and if I was hearing the feedback correctly the menu approach is confusing for Developers so okay I vote for no incentive I like the the far but you know if we had to get to a consensus the hybrid also works because you increase the far and those two districts and I've also wondered why we just don't extend the D1 across all of D2 but I don't want to cause any more Flames at the table tonight so all right commissioner Clerk so I don't actually have a whole lot of comment on this although I do prefer probably no incentive and just making it as clear and straightforward as possible um so yeah uh no incentive but I might have more to say later okay any particular question for both commissioner and commissioner Clark that you would want to ask to any one of the stakeholders I mean I heard and I asked the DDA this I heard developers say they don't want to build affordable housing for the city so is that is that true that they they want that done through a tiff or through the millage or as a city process they don't want to be responsible for doing that I think a more clarifying thing to say would they don't want to manage it is a big piece no it was what I heard was stop asking developers to build your affordable housing so can I just kind of build on that question um I guess my question would be to stakeholders like how much does having them subsidize developments raise the cost of other units and maybe it's a broader question than like a stakeholder engagement but for developers specifically I'd want to know what the price margin difference is going to be if they're having to absorb those costs um I worry about creating two different without subsidies from a larger pool of funding State Federal even County I just worry about subsidizing that direct level and I'd want to know what increase it cost to be and if people would mind if the market would be able to absorb that higher price I don't know if that's what we're talking thank you okay um not entirely comfortable with uh merely increasing the base far and no premiums but the hybrid model I don't think increases the base far enough I think that it keeps it where we are now which is that we will not see development because the base is too low to make Financial sense in a city where most development is Redevelopment and so they've already got a three or four story building that's giving them something so why would they knock it down if they have to pay a premium to get over six stories so at one point as a base far makes Financial sense yeah I'm starting to get really close to the current premium but I mean it I would think I would like to see it increase to 700 or maybe even 750.
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I get this I get the reasoning behind that but right now there's a criminalization element to the compulsory attendance statute and I would hate to increase the level of criminalization of our youth so that's a No-No for me okay see okay hold on um thank God we have a public defender age okay that's a good point so that's the kind of feedback that they need to hear so okay I'll make sure I I feel like I mean 95 yeah yeah okay um any other feedback there's things things that you know I would like to bold but like I'm like I want to double down on it but we do get to prioritize like we get to put in our our top five as a board okay there's like a forum that we submit so that's where we can either add ones that aren't on here and or double down on the ones that we really want to make sure priority yeah and then on May 24th we can if we each have like our top five we can discuss those and then bring them all together together oh together you know what I mean has anyone else been on the committee for this before I think I have okay I have before I went to the delegate assembly and I believe she's this delegate oh yeah I think I'm yeah so just everybody knows the way they at least when I was on the committee um it was really kind it seems like too much stuff on the list but they just want to make sure that they have everything there in case an opportunity arises with a legislator so you know prioritizing them isn't that important it's more like is there something we're missing or is there something you want to take off you know and I've argued against that compulsory making it compulsory to 18 having a son who found out you could drop out at 16.
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complaints I know there weren't ten or five so I think mostly people are happy with it or just have resigned to it and yes I accepted it or just adjusting their schedules to what it is so and that kind of goes to the next slide here too staff survey results and so you can see they they picked reasons for the decision of course they could pick as many reasons as they wanted so you can't always look at the percentages but you look at staff definitely liked this for some of the highest ones were vacation planning Staff feel like okay I can leave for a week and do that vacation but I also then can stay home and catch up on things around the house or we know many staff volunteer their own time and you know finish report cards or grading or plan for the upcoming quarter and we heard time and time again they felt like they could balance both of those types of things student academic achievement staff felt like this was better for students and then you'll see two works best with Arizona climate weather um a lot of Staff felt like that worked as well and then aligns of course a lot of people have friends family and surrounding school districts and so this calendar aligns more closely to our surrounding school districts and then on the one two one you can see not any huge percentages they're chosen there are mostly in the 20s and 30s percent in terms of why they would stick with the one two one option so nothing glaring there but like we said this is where it gets personal and everybody has their own reasons for choosing a certain calendar and then some other themes though that were popped up where people could fill in shorter summer um some of the things anecdotally that people wrote in on the comments shorter summer supports for student skill retention uh longer spring and fall break promote staff mental help with time to recharge and plan we actually had quite a few write that in the comments section from the staff surveys and then prefer a shorter summer break that is still approximately two months many people still felt like eight weeks was still a generous amount of time for summer breaks and then the staff that chose the one two one they thought too hot in July to return to school and then also the potential loss of learning school routines over the longer spring and fall breaks you know when you're out for two weeks you do have to come back and reteach some of those routines but when we talked to a lot of Staff they said well even when you're out for a week you still have to teach that as well too and some of that could be some of our special education classrooms or other rooms where there's more challenges of students that do when they when they're not in the classroom they do they do lose some of those routines and then of course there is for the support staff and this has been always one that we've acknowledged as there is concern over the no pay for a two-week if the pay period Falls during that entire that entire pay period Falls during any of those two-week breaks and for example this past year and this upcoming fall the fall break does land on a complete pay period And so there is no pay for support staff whereas spring break one week Falls prior to Spring Break and the week after so that they get a partial paycheck but we had that some years on the one to one calendar looking back during winter break where the entire winter break would land on that two-week break some of the things that of course we did this year but we can't guarantee every year we gave a stipend to employees and we strategically put it during that pay period so that they got that also if they're taking employees or taking our benefits we gave them a premium holiday and we strategically placed that there but we know that that's not something that we can guarantee always but that is something that we do take into it I think one thing we've done really good though with the support staff is letting them know about that if there is a pay period coming up in the upcoming year we have let them know so that they can hopefully budget for that as well too um and then some of the other things prefer the longer summer to unwind and prepare for the new school year why staff chose the one two one and then two week breaks can be challenging with athletic schedules we've kind of already acknowledged that and that's a choice and so then for the parent survey results what they chose to hear so when you look at the 222 calendar they also liked the vacation planning was one of the highest as well as works best with Arizona climate weather and so a lot of these parents said you know what it's hot anyways our kids don't do anything at home so let's put them in school and and then we can have off the nice times of the year in October and March and maybe you're not even doing vacations but a couple of people mentioned in it hey we can go to the Phoenix Zoo in October and March and actually enjoy it where the Phoenix Zoo in June and July is not always the most comforting place to spend all day because they're not open all day yep so some of those things too they also mentioned to their student academic achievement in the 40 cells so aligns with surrounding school districts as some of the reasons for choosing 222 then when you go over to the one two one for parents that chose that calendar of course the work schedule alignment and I think that's the one that we also first for some families too probably liked and then but then they also thought the one two one was better for their vacation planning and maybe perhaps like Mrs Humphrey said those are ones that have families that are in districts or in states that have a much different start date types of things like we said these are very individualistic type of reasons for choosing their calendar so here's some other themes too so it's funny how shorter summer supports students skill retention and learning loss we just saw that too in the in the um in the uh in the staff one and then also two other themes for choosing one two one too hot in July to return to school so you see that everybody has a different lens on whether we should be in school or not when it's really hot and then potential disruption like we said to the learning routine with three two week breaks throughout the year a few parents experienced that or felt like that with their own children so what we're proposing um just and then I'll take any questions is next steps of course we shared here tonight kind of the proposed calendars as well as the uh survey results is that in two weeks we would like to bring to you um for approval the 222 calendars based on that for your governing board approval mainly because we are starting to get parents to asking hey when does school start in uh summer of 2024 in July or August so that they can plan and then of course pending board approval as soon as you make that decision then we can start to inform our staff and constituents and we can also put those approved calendars on our website questions or comments or things any questions or I've got some comments yes please comments that I've that I've written down but then also a question at the end possibly so the first thing was um I was really shocked by these numbers that came in because I've talked to a number of parents and teachers and not one of them was in favor of the 222.
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can you do that 750 12. I could fabulous I would also suggest that this would be a great to your point that might be a stakeholder question where would you where would you need us to put the base far so that you weren't just so that you could still be enticed by premiums but not just stalled right so that would be a good question that's what I'd like to hear I'd like to hear how they'd craft the hybrid model and I would ask them if they have a strong preference for the ability to give 100 payment in lieu in place of building affordable units on site okay got it so yeah in other words I really like offering them The Tweak the hybrid model and then asking them how they would tweak it foreign ly like the hybrid model I I actually don't know that that would increase the F that base fa are that much because this is what I I like the question like where would you what would entice you to just build anything and then what does it take to actually get us either more affordability and so I think that the question that commissioner dish asked about payment entirely or again what would the what would the bonus need to be what would the incentive need to be to get us a much more efficient building like that's the thing that they can give you numbers I think that would be really useful but of everyone and I don't know that all of your audiences that you're going to would answer that from everyone what I would really I think would be really helpful this Pros cons like expected and unexpected or well maybe these are not unexpected consequences like these are the expected you know this yeah I think would happen I want them to edit this like I wanted to know what they think would happen like the pros and cons of each of them I think this is pretty solid but that's what I if you could explicitly ask them like what are we missing with respect to our goals and even with respect to other goals that people know our city has that we're not thinking of I think that would be useful okay thank you for I so but do ask us all three because I think that's yeah thank you you're welcome you just said exactly what I was going to say so there you go um yeah so I'm I'm I like the hybrid thing too and I want to know where we land um the other thing and this may have nothing to do with it but I'm just curious and who knows if this gets answered but um with attainable how big is that unit I just be curious like is that a 500 square foot unit is that a 400 square foot unit like for the kind of like what you know our average median income what is the size of that I just wanted like is there a way that far is one thing can we say units or unit size or some other way of thinking about it so that we can get people to make smaller units or things that aren't just the five six bedroom business or the 2 000 square foot luxury business so that's asking somebody to run numbers for you I don't know if that's something that you can do first or not for sure if that's like your wheelhouse or not um but that would be an additional question that I would have because that's what I that's part of what I really want is to figure out how to get regular people to be able to live downtown okay like people that are like in this community that so that it's like anybody can live downtown like you're yep that's diversity of housing type that's diversity of housing type to me you know yeah and and then so if we have some sort of Baseline for now anyway then we know maybe we want to be able to incentivize even smaller so that people who aren't just in the average can also have a chance to I think like right now what I see from my other life outside of Planning Commission is that the math seems to work better for the luxury condo thing and so I want to know how we can make it better for people to not do the luxury condo thing and so whatever tools we have to be able to make that happen great thanks um I guess I would add I know we're not talking about who the stakeholders are yet but I feel like most of these questions are directed at developers which I think is only one of the eight groups so I would maybe just encourage us to think about questions we might have for the other potential stakeholders um which would be like DDA or housing and Human Services Advisory Board Housing Commission Etc um I I am interested in both the no incentive and the hybrid model I think I am not quite sure how the no incentive model achieves the goals that we just were passing out so I guess that's my concern um and then I'm wondering why or can we talk about going higher than 900 and 400 I don't see that on the table like is their version of the hybrid where we increased to eight and four and then offer premiums yeah for 1200 or whatever yeah I okay it seemed like everyone was talking about 900 as the ceiling and we have to kind of move within that that is my base 900 is your base okay yeah and and that was also a facilitator trick not to rock the boat out of the gate for the discussion we could just talk about that and not the other things yeah um okay I don't think I have anything else that I need to add them okay I had similar thoughts about how the no incentive option would meet either of the other two goals besides increasing housing so I think for me I like the hybrid option but would I mean I'm not going to say anything new I'd want to hear from stakeholders like what are the premiums that would actually convince you to take advantage of being able to add more far like what are the things that that you would be willing to do and I think understanding like the numbers will really help um I think you had said this before we talked about it we were talking about the goals but are you if you're planning on sharing the goals to sort of Bounce them off of the stakeholders I would I would love for them to try to prioritize them it would just be interesting to see like forced to prioritize these things because we cannot have everything how would each of these different groups how would you prioritize them a commissioner I don't know no one's asking me I'm asking you right now um well I don't know what the third goal is yet I don't know what we landed on so I'm afraid that I can't it's kind of unfair question I want to know what you stakeholders say because I don't know what I would say I want it all and I can't have it all I I was I was thinking thinking more question when we started this and I guess one of the observations I will just have is that I get I get the balance of the things that we desire as a community and the things that we can't require as a community but I think to a person at this table we want more housing downtown and I would just observe that it's interesting that we would in what circumstance if that's our goal would we require an offset for that so that's taking the small menu off the plate the table so only talking about the two options I've I I think it is maybe bifurcating the goals to what extent is housing a goal here housing is Big Goal diversity of housing maybe that's a sub goal maybe sustainability is a sub goal so um it's not to go aside on this conversation but I think it's just an observation that I'm hearing that when when we come back with this feedback about what's viable and the like you know just another observation that sometimes communities get caught up when they have a land asset and they want to offer that to the development Community through an RFP or something to that effect and a lot of times communities can start trying to solve every problem I think you heard some of this with the 415 West Washington and um it's this is not that far from that one we if we don't provide options and we require layers we are doing that same thing we're going to be layering requirements that we're probably not going to get any of the things that we desire so um I don't know I just I am hearing housing and I'm hearing that elevated in a higher outcome desirability than even potentially sustainability and diversity of housing I know that I'm not trying to belittle those as goals but increasing housing supply downtown helps all of that period can I add like one more question that as you were talking because I think it I think that's true but I also think it's like adding the right types of housing so I would be curious to see like from all these different stakeholders perspectives like what do they see as missing and like critical so what is missing in housing downtown yeah I mean I think I know but I would just like to sort of okay see how how the different groups might respond to that right commissioner Lee um I have some feedback on actually who should we talk to okay that's next okay gotcha and I think the conversation's great because uh it always brings me back to planning school and planners triangle right it's we have to balance Economic Development sustainability and social justice and those are the three themes that we are consistently kind of revolving around um and my question is is premiums only limited to far or can they be temporal and you know and in the past we've talked about like Expediting reviews or something along those lines I don't even know if that's legal like where you prioritize you know where everything should be given kind of like just um you know time and review so um are there other dimensions that are valuable um that which could be used to induce certain you know so not just density because I think we all want density to a certain extent right and there is a diminishing um return after you hit certain height so for example stick build five stories 120 and 150 bucks a square foot that's kind of where it ends you get to Podium with stick on top you get one with maybe up to six and so you have and that that's probably like 160 170 a foot and then you get the light gauge steel you can now get to 10 stories um so there's these kinds of like specific segments of costs and returns that you can hit but then there's also again areas where you have diminishing marginal returns um so you get a type 1A construction you want to go up super you know high but now you have to have a lot more costs you know associated with that so um I'm wondering if it's not if we're only hyper focus on far and if there's different areas of premiums that again like hey um I don't know fees I mean we talk about fees when it came to U of M Credit Union or we talked about um so I don't know if speed costs those kinds of things can be considered in the premium discussion I uh again not not at a not to try and create more complexity but temporally right um time is money in real estate like literally leasehold interest what occurs on the productivity of land time is money so can that can that be you know a dimension that we could tackle as a premium just throwing it out there I think that's an excellent question to ask yep yeah I was just going to say I think I agree I think that's something that you could incorporate into those stakeholder conversations I but I will also give you my speculation that um adjustment to our fees to process and time are not the big cost factors in a development and I I don't know that drastic changes to those are going to overcome the Delta between a mixed fuel building and an electrified building that that's fair uh that's thank you yeah that's a good point okay before we move on yes yes okay I just I want to respond to Mr Leonard um your statement was increasing housing supply downtown helps all those goals and commissioner hammerschmidt's response was well I'm not sure if the types of housing doesn't matter and I want to underscore that I really do think that that's a question that we're wrestling with which is a meaningful one because I hear all the time that residents are really tired of the student Towers going up downtown and I think that the market would be inclined to give us all those they would give us a lot of those wouldn't it or I know that I wouldn't think we had a healthy downtown if that's what it was full of it's not that I do not have I have abs I love students I teach them but they they do things they go away in the summer they have exams they don't uh you know the a city looks different when it's trying to cater to just that market and that doesn't feel like a city that has a mix of kinds of people in it I I would say that is part of the housing challenge that we have here there those are constructed because there is demand for those units and I it this is hard right because we're wrestling with our community experience of the housing that we see we see student housing and we see high-end Condominiums being developed and I would I would put forth that building more of both of those will help with our affordability and it'll help expand the SEC the diversity of housing types across our community because those are the first things right now that are penciling out and what steps can we do to make more of those pencil out to help fill those Market needs and open up the space for other types of housing as well and so I I don't I am reluctant to dismiss student housing is not being developed that's part of our housing inventory challenges um right now the the cards are stacked against every other project type I don't think those are inherently bad though I want to be clear and I don't think you're saying that either but that is part that is part of increasing housing Supply in this community to help across the board it's not trying to stop that development it's trying to how can we open up this Market through what small ways can we adjust our regulatory framework so that more can happen across all price points oh God oh Sarah you had your hand up first and I was just gonna say maybe this is taking to us to our next slide um I think we at this table might see housing and housing alone as helpful maybe not all of us do but I hope that the people that we're talking to I want to question that because I mean we certainly had people that come before us that we pick up from certain groups where it's not housing in and of itself is a good it's housing so long as it has these characteristics and sustainability is one of them that we regularly hear and I think that we need to have that conversation before we increase far we need to hear how others feel about that and so I I think that that's really important to get out of this and I'm I'll go to the next thing I'm really glad that the energy commission for example is on that list and that there's a bunch of housing folks commission folks housing Alliance on that list okay so is everybody good with going to that list of stakeholders and talking about that yeah okay there we are great oh no go back we didn't get to talk okay so we have a horoscope up to eight groups we've listed them here um it could be a combination or if you feel that one might be it might be worthwhile to talk to 20 developers than one or two of those others has to fall off the list but if again I think we'll go this way this time so we'll start with commissioner Lee about who we should be talking to and we do kind of need resolution on which eight before we walk out of here tonight um sure I I thought um civil engineers and Architects that's brought the most number of petitions in front of us might be useful to talk with as they kind of understand both the constraints and kind of the nuances of utility traffic and you know everything else so to talk with somebody who has frequency and petitions that they bring forward I also wrote down failed petitioners people who actually brought like petitions forward and it never got off the ground that is also kind of interesting to hear their perspective I really appreciate when um Doug Selby came and told us to our face yeah this is how I see that process that is valuable feedback for us so um it's not Sego call up core spaces uh about you know but I mean basically it's what I'm saying is maybe it's uh worthwhile to see you know who's brought you know frequency of petitions and and chatting with them so I guess that kind of focuses on local developers and civil engineering and Architects I do think the Housing Commission is obviously imperative as well as the energy commission um the the question is also one of you know is um maybe that's not necessarily the right question but um the other thing that I might uh actually uh recommend as far as within the local developers is there's a group called sgaa I think um and I think they they're called themselves uh smart growth Ann Arbor so they're just uh real estate um leaders throughout the community so might kind of knock out all five ten individual firms if you just talk that one group so um but yeah failed petitioner civil engineering Architects that have the most amount of frequency and familiarity with our processes um and and both local and National folks that have brought things here and the national can give us guidance on how we you know match up relative to other communities that have tried to use levers of premiums so I think it's not only important to have those with local flavor but also the national purview so thanks thank you I love that I was second that um we definitely do see a lot of the same like engineering firms and Architects come before us they're often the ones presenting things and talking to us about sustainability particularly Architects so I think you know that local developers category could maybe not just be developers would be sort of that like professional um category I this is my own ignorance I guess but between like the Washington housing Alliance housing and Human Services Advisory Board Housing Commission I just don't know enough about like the differences between those three like maybe we do need all three of them I just don't know like I don't know if it's possible if we come up with like a different eighth I don't know if it likes swapping one of those out makes sense I just I don't know um and I'm wondering like if it and like you know Avalon is a non-profit housing developer I don't know if if a non-profit housing developer a non-profit affordable housing developer would make sense to talk to mm-hmm okay thank you I'm gonna second what was already said I don't think I have anything else to add thanks my only similarly to to commissioner Abrams the only thing is um whether the citizens advisory Council of the DDA and the DDA I don't I mean I know this is about downtown so you're trying to figure out kind of um we used to have representatives of them come forward to us quite a bit and we just haven't had that and so I don't know if they're still actively meeting and things like that are they yeah they did I mean Ray deterrer used to be a regular fixture here and uh and we just don't hear from them since covet basically it seems like so so the feeling is maybe they could be combined possibly yeah okay I agree I don't know that I don't know which of the housing groups is the appropriate and I wouldn't say that we only have to have one I was actually thinking like do we it I don't think the environmental commission is the right thing I think it is this is an energy commission thing but I was thinking if there's something similar like a couple of different flavors of kind of environment but three might be too many on that particular topic but I defer to others so I I did want to suggest maybe if Washington housing Alliance and housing and Human Services Advisory Board could be brought together I think Housing Commission is both a developer and it does so many things that I would keep it it seems to me like we doubled the local developer category because of the things that were put into it which I think was valuable so we do need to take some things off I agree about collapsing the CAC to the DDA with the DDA I think that would be fine the only so I've offered two ways of collapsing one way of expanding the other thing that's not here that might be important is the renter's commission but I would take advice from staff on that only because they are relatively new now they represent a group that is 50 of the city and is a very internally diverse group certainly um and whose needs are not necessarily being wonderfully met but they're new so I don't know how well they've gelled as a deliberative body and so um it's all but they are you know it's important their representation is important I mean you could just beg city council I mean I really think you could they will have their chance to give input okay and you want to talk to stakeholders there aren't a lot of city council members who pay enough attention to actual nitty-gritty of development so I was glad to see a nod I thought that was gonna light people's hair on fire as we have heard um so I guess I would also like to hear from professional groups that represent a more diverse uh group that haven't been included in our developments I'm going to suggest the organizations like the Urban League of Southeast Michigan Michigan minority contractors Association Capital impact Partners has their Equitable Development Association Sedum the community developments Association of Michigan developers that are a member of that Consortium would be good to weigh in a lot of them are non-profits and Community groups that work in communities directly adjacent to Ann Arbor it would be interesting to know why they're not more people aren't getting a piece of the development downtown like why and I think that I just want to make sure that along with stakeholders that have been petitioners that people that have been excluded from being petitioners would be really useful to hear it from and I also think they might be have some insight to the market demand and things that we might be overlooking so I'd really like to see those associations are some you know combination of Professionals in that section so a question and then and then an answer um the is the goal of these stakeholders people who would come before planning yes and no the goal of the stakeholders is to yes to talk to the development Community or people who would be bringing petitions but I think also to talk to other stakeholders who share the same goals and have ideas about how to implement them and whether the policy options you're looking at would be helpful to them as they go forward so not only talking to applicants but partners because I I think the the nature of the question for me is then like I as I look at the list that you have my screen is flickering if you're wondering why I'm turning um the the people that I see missing are the people who aren't downtown so those are the renters those are the people who want to live here but can't and I I don't know that they belong to an association that you can contact to reach them so for the Washington housing allowance Alliance that gets everybody who is doing supportive and affordable housing in the county so Avalon to commissioner hammerschmidt's question would be subsumed inside the housing allowance Alliance and then on the housing and Human Services board you're going to get a cross section of Ann Arbor rights who either rent or own but are aware of the housing needs and how the availability and the lack thereof impact and then to some commissioner either Mills or dishes comment probably dish on the renters it would be great to hear from them but if it's around how we change our policies to permit more housing I don't know like is that a good use of their time so that's why I was asking the question of who the goal is because having the renters commission come well they're going to tell you everything about everything but it may not help us figure out what we need to change in the planning so if the goal are the professional class of folks who would either come to the table or be adjacent to the table then I think as commissioner Lee originally said hearing from petitioners who had their petitions rejected hearing from developers who because of how difficult our process is for permitting or building decided not to I would love to to sort of hear from them and even with the earlier petitioner I was going to ask like why do you keep developing in Ann Arbor it's this seems kind of onerous and difficult and you've been around here this table for six years why are you back here again and I think it was to Mr Leonard's comment that you know student housing or Jason student housing is what pencils right now and so that's why we're getting a lot of those or the high-end million dollar condos because they work so so I it's a mixed bag from me but if you if you give me more clarity about like I want to talk to the people who are going to be impacted by the decision that we make that might change in my recommendation and then my question back to you is um we're acting as your proxy to go out and talk to stakeholders so what information do you need to hear from which stakeholders in order to be better prepared to make decisions about this policy change so again if if I think my answer is is our goal to build more housing because if our goal is to build more housing then I want to talk to the people who build housing okay but I don't I'm hearing a mixed bag from the table you know you have the energy commission here because of sustainability because that's a sub goal you have all of the the housing Supportive Services folks because affordability is a sub goal you have people who live in the DDA because the DDA is sort of the the the umbrella for this area so you want to make sure that we're hearing from them so that that's your three sort of groups and then everyone else's who builds because the Housing Commission builds right the Washington housing allowance alliance members they build um I think it would be religious groups as well because they're building and they're building in the downtown we just had the treasure Mark is you know that just changed hands and you're going to have a a church that builds uh in Cary town so so like where I would just say we want to talk to as many Builders who are interested in the downtown as is possible but again I think it changes depending on like what is our actual goal yeah okay so to summarize what I've heard and I think I have it down to eight nine groups is um number one take city council off the list um combine the DDA and the citizens advisory Council into one group so that's one Washington housing Alliance to housing and Human Services Advisory Board is a different one three local developers and included in that is also civil engineers and architects um Housing Commission energy Commission um the renters commission and then as the eighth I think that the failed petitioners is really interesting maybe that can be part of the developers group but so I really think we swelled it right can you put your my gosh I forget about the people at home I take commissioner White's weiche's point that maybe not the renter's commission I don't know do others how did others respond to that good point and I think in terms of the failed the ones that didn't work I'm going to leave it up to staff because I I'm sure you all know there's people that come through there's like you know that was a stupid idea that's never going to flop right and then there's the people who are like wow that was a great project and it didn't work because of some whatever it is and I'm sure you all have those in your pocket of things that have happened yeah I was going to suggest we can just try to identify a couple of those examples um as part of that development Community probably maybe some that just never proceeded for bears and some that were approved and never got built right okay I just wanted to throw out there too that I guess I would want stakeholders too that have a breadth of experience in in policy and development and from an equity and impact lens and I just want to throw out there really quick that like for example Sedum um I think there is a tendency to overlook experience with with this in other areas and developers that there are developers that wanted to come here and you know like the number one goal listed on sedum's agenda is expand accessible affordable quality housing options for all Michigan residents their second one is strengthen programs that promote inclusion um and then locally yes so I just think that there's a lot of overlapping goals there and the stakeholders going to them and saying what policy recommendations have worked what what exclusions would be really good they were actually the one that I was going to mention Ninth and come in so I I think if folks feel like the renters commission maybe we take that off the table and talk to see them and set instead um because they have they also have a breath and policy across the state and um knows that affordable housing community development context within planning and zoning laws in Michigan and what other communities have done I'll make it quick um on the professional advisory side maybe Uli or usgbc or something along those lines but um if you feel like you got it covered on the professional advisory side that's fine the other one I was going to throw out there is some something like the Main Street Association or the state treat Association um while they're not necessarily the ones using premium levers right because they're not the builders but they are the aggregate of business owners and operators and the ones that kind of give Vitality to the DDA and they make their livings there so their their value sets and voice I think is also a helpful balance so that we're not just hearing from the people that have to use premiums but rather the folks that may either benefit or you know have have direct kind of feedback as to what they'd like to see I mean is housing what they want is is better transportation and of goods what they want right I mean it would probably go and but I the the Main Street Association State Street Association might be helpful to talk maybe I'm throwing that out for consideration well let us talk with staff and see maybe whether those things can be combined with the DEA and have a larger group um something like that go ahead all right um well the next steps is for us to go off and consult with these stakeholders working with your staff and then coming back to you so I would expect us backs probably sometime in July ish and want to thank you tonight for the discussion and all of your time really do appreciate it thanks main customers first customers [Laughter] okay let's move on to item number 10 which is public comment there's opportunity for people to speak up to three minutes if you want to since we likely don't have people in the room that are going to be speaking I presume not no uh the the small Miss Mills does not want to get up and chair she no there's there's another one is still there um that it would be people calling in um and for phone access call 877-853-5247 and enter meeting ID 977-6634-1226 to unmute plus press star six City staff will call on you um please state your name and address at the beginning of your comments for your three-minute period is there anybody virtually no hands are raised okay then we will move on to commission proposed business nothing nothing alrighty a German motion to adjourn commissioner Abrams seconded by commissioner white we are adjourned
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yeah yeah um there's a lot of ways to get out of the compulsory the the criminalize certainly and but but I suppose if you're disenfranchised that's a little harder people navigate who get um dinged um but I do think there's a value in like saying yeah you should be in school because I also have heard people um argue that um kids are forced to um work at home I used to work in high schools girl yeah you know but what I'm saying is and also you could bring this up too I'm a part of Arizona attorneys for criminal justice we lobby at the Capitol all the time and we're happy to come talk to asba or anybody else and we often provide suggestions for amendments or suggestions for policy or even Consulting on things so happy to do that as well because there's ways to make to make that a resolution or to affect policy change without necessarily criminal further criminalizing things while still having ability to enforce it okay awesome there's always a good on that one yeah perfect any other additional questions or comments all right awesome thank you guys for that discussion and then we'll bring forward more stuff on May 24th that brings me to legislative political report I do not have one I'm not sure if anybody else has one doesn't look like anybody does all right yeah except for new appointments anyways um future agenda items yeah so I would like to call the cultural meeting with an item um for to for the board to conduct a special education investigation and I'm asking for a special meeting because I don't want to wait another two weeks um because I have been waiting for months and continue to hear issues of concern um we've been given the go ahead again by legal um and I it sounds as if the board is on the same page but we can find out um when we take a vote um and then I want to call for an executive session with our attorney regarding new Personnel issues and complaints that I have recently heard that do not appear to be being addressed adequately or following policy and then also in that executive session I would like to talk about um the A1 use is that what it's called yes and I'll get with you with these get the information and I'll um and then I'll make sure I get with legal I know the A1 we have one set up already so I don't know if it would be beneficial just to bump it up since it's already scheduled to do it but we can discuss that and I'll discuss that with the attorney and then I'll get with Dr Lewis too just to see how we can accommodate all this thank you and then one other thing um I don't know if this is at a board meeting or if board members can just do this on their own um I did receive a quote that I've also forwarded um uh on April 20th to um you Mrs griodal and Dr Lewis um for an audit for um Creighton Academy I just think it's it's like a 10-page proposal or so I think it's interesting for board members to look through that and and also compare it and also look through the three-page audit that fmg provided Us in the last board update if if board members and so all what I'll do is email that to um Hilda so she can forward it to all of you and you guys could just review those two documents before the June 6 meeting when we're talking about the vote of the the GMP I just think those two documents would be interesting to compare and you're you'll learn a lot about you know what does an audit look like and why do an audit and that kind of thing okay awesome and we're making sure that's on the next one because we would need to talk about it before the GM you vote June 6.
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and so I I guess that the the folks that weren't in favor of the 222 just maybe didn't fill out the survey or I just have a much smaller group of uh circle of friends than I than I thought right before you had like-minded friends yeah or yeah yeah exactly yeah um so Lori you already addressed the issue with and we talked about it a couple times the issue of learning loss and that there's no real research that shows a difference in learning loss between a shorter summer and a longer summer um but there's some other details that were presented here that that I wanted to address and some of them have been touched on but I want to address them from uh maybe a different perspective so for instance um I don't know what the the number of the slide is but one of the higher up slides a bullet point mentioned additional time for family activities and vacations but right above that we see that Sports and extracurriculars still go on during breaks so even though the break is longer those families still can't go anywhere because of those ongoing activities and I realized that the sports uh families represent you know a smaller percentage of the overall student body but I think they're still uh reason for consideration um we also see that GPS staff can make additional money during break by working to provide intercession support to struggling students which I think is fantastic but I think some of those same opportunities can be offered through similar progress programs during a a longer summer another another thing that maybe hasn't been considered or maybe was but just wasn't mentioned as presentation as did we look at how shorter Summers impact our students that look for summer jobs there's a number of students that go to employers and employers have this expectation that they're going to have this the student employee for two and a half months and that's just not an option with the 222 schedule and so it doesn't limit some of our students opportunities to work during the summer but then in regard to the go ahead so that was actually something that I talked about with Dr Martin because it was something that was brought up to me by a parent that I talked to was just that um sometimes you you want students to focus on school so she didn't necessarily want her children to work during the school year but having a shorter summer made it more challenging but Dr Martin didn't bring up and I was actually thinking about this because this 222 schedule doesn't really we can't be hiring college kids they don't have that much time off so for the community ed the vik those who were 16 and 17 and 18 can apply to work for the community ad during those two week breaks because you know we won't we won't be able to get those college kids because they won't be available um we'll have to rely on our regular yeah I'm not necessarily talking about the kids the students the college students that are going to apply for no no I'm talking about our I'm talking about our high school students can get those positions because college kids won't be available so there is an opportunity that's what I'm that's what we talked about there is an opportunity I see to work at Community Ed whereas maybe previously we would have hired college kids and maybe they would be available for part of that time but they're not going to be available the whole two weeks so that that was our discussion so I'm just saying it's not a lot for maybe all the kids that we have but um it is an opportunity for some students sometimes students to have a you know work for the district and help with our vik program and so forth my guest to here Mr Thompson is on the parent survey results where it says work schedule alignment I assume when it says 50 percent uh like the one two one some of those parents were looking at not only their own work schedule but possibly if they had teenagers too that work schedule as well too the one thing though we didn't see is that they didn't write it anecdotally in the comments section explicitly my teenager you know we didn't have any major area in that because Don Anna's Dennis and I would would have put that in the other themes but my guess is because 50 said work schedule alignment that some of that is either parents but some of it's if they had teenagers as well too so yeah yeah that's that's good uh good insight so then a couple more things here in regards to the last bullet on the page the 222 option depending on viewpoints talking about Arizona climate but I don't know about anyone else but mid to late July is the last Arizona's the last place I want to be right and so if we're if we have to be here because of school that limits our ability to get out of town during the hottest part of the year probably more than that yeah so but probably even more important and this this affects me directly because I've got kids in elementary school but when it's over a certain temperature recess is canceled and during those those last few weeks or last couple weeks of July pretty much all of recesses canceled and that is a huge strain on our not only our kids but also our teachers they don't get any kind of recess you know during that during those those first two weeks of school and so that's that's kind of as a parent of a kid in elementary school that's that's tough absolutely we've talked about that I get to be the head heat index person for elementary schools and so I called it and I will tell you um we the heat index um the one good thing is I can tell you anecdotally being in this position now for eight years is we usually can get am morning recess done and actually when we're looking at the heat index most of the time it's not until noon one or even two o'clock where we can have the students out now some of the things we'll ask them to do is not any high intensity sports like running on the soccer field or playing football that things that aren't highly intensive but this past year there was actually only about four or five days that I actually called at heat index now I will say some School principles because we give that site-based decision they will call it earlier then I will I'm kind of like the last resort for some of them and we do have some school communities where the principals will call them in earlier and that's a site-based decision in between the principals and the staff but this past year we actually had less heat index days than the previous year of the one to one calendar but that changes every year based on climate so but one of the things I've learned is our heat indexes are there could be a school-wide uh raising of the threat of the threshold to 120 degrees or something like that um so Mr Martin what are the opportunities that schools use if children can't go outside for recess because obviously we have weekly little bodies that need to burn off some energy so what are some of the things that we do to rectify that so the good thing is you know we have paraprofessional support so we've worked really hard and we call it actually whether it's a rainy day schedule which we don't have too many of those but many of them have converted it to also heat advisory schedules too and so a lot of times the students will either be in the library or the project room they might be watching a movie but I have also seen two where they're getting creative at the PE teacher or the paraprofessionals are are doing some type of activity jumping jacks or they're walking around the hallways or they're doing some type of movement activity I've seen that happen quite often I've also seen where some some ptsos have purchased board games and other equipment too for students to participate in and they've used that as well too so there are a number of creative ways that I've seen our elementary schools work around that and plan around it and ironically this last fall I remember talking to the principals a lot of them said oh we didn't have to use those very much and I said well we were lucky this year don't don't think that's going to be an every year occurrence based on climate well I I will say this when I moved to Arizona people were like well you know you just don't go outside in the summer like you know like you would winter in other places I'm like well my kids weren't off of school all winter so I do think having them in school even though it's hot I mean there's not a lot you can do at home to get them out and active right so having them in school is is definitely a plus um but I I did I did have someone mention to me that they would rather you know that we started later but the other thing is because different districts start at different times in our state sometimes if you start earlier you might get more kids just because parents are ready to send them back to school you know they've had their weeks off and they're ready to to have kids back in school because it is hard to entertain them we uh we just we just tell our kids to entertain themselves but so I did want to mention one last thing here um the two weeks in the middle of each semester is a long time and I've been told by multiple teachers that coming back from these long breaks is so hard for them and their students they tell me it's like starting over after summer break in the middle of each semester and I know that we've touched on that in in one of these slides but that's a real thing that I've heard from multiple teachers that it's just it's just too long of a break in the middle of each semester that they're starting over at the in the middle of each semester um I I did contact oh sorry if you're not done go ahead I just had to go ahead and done what you were saying so I contacted a few individuals just to get some feedback and what I heard from teachers was that they liked the two-week break because it gave them time to really go out and go on vacation and then they still had time to maybe do a little prep work or get ready for the next semester and it gave them kind of a mental health break so um I actually the people that I contacted the teachers that I just you know asked what their thoughts were they were very positive about the 222 so I think it's you know sounds like we need to mix our circles a little bit I guess because um if if if they're not they should answer the survey if someone wants to have input they should answer the survey because my vote has always been based on the survey so in 2018 when 52 percent of our parents wanted a one two one then that's how I voted and we kept the one two one but in 2020 when it became apparent that we even though it was only a few more 50.5 percent wanted the 222 that's the way I voted and now it's pretty lopsided I mean it it's pretty um apparent that 75 percent of parents and 87 percent of Staff really enjoy this schedule and we're more in alignment with all the districts around us because it looks like everybody about Mesa has changed and you know I there are some drawbacks to to either one I mean a I live the 222 schedule when I lived in Chandler and I was fine the first week we could keep everything together and the second week everything fell apart it took me and I had children in High School junior high and two different elementaries it took me the next quarter to get everybody back on schedule and things going smoothly so it was you know it was challenging that way but um it is and I understand that a lot of my points are moot made maybe moot because of the results of the survey right I understand that um so so my question is and I is there somewhere in between do we is it is it only one two one or two two two or can we say a week a week and two days for spring break and fall break and give us even just an extra week or week and a half during the summer that's almost what the one two one was because when we started this year I believe it was July 27th in the previous year it was like August 6th or something it was eight or nine calendar days earlier that we started because we were having one or two days off after each break and then as well as the Monday after uh Easter and so we had three or four days in there where we did add those to the the spring break and the fall break so we can just go back to the one two one then I think the camel's head is under the tent at this point I'm kidding the good thing you can see is we do have a good percentage of Staff responding all three uh 2018 2020 and 2023 um to this survey too that's a majority of our staff that have taken the time just to complete the survey yeah well I appreciate you letting me take the time and kind of put my thoughts on records so I'm those are all my comments though thank you I think we should go back and thank you for your work in this survey I think we should go back to after Labor Day that's my vote right that's remember when we didn't have fall break I know I know yeah Jerry Lewis Telethon then the first day of school back in the day we didn't have 180 school days we had like 175 too and then we had all sorts of things that changed one anecdotal thing is if we ever did move back after Memorial Day just looking at the testing calendar it's interesting because I've talked to other districts if you start and push your calendar back will the State Testing calendar is pretty much the month of April now so if you're trying to maximize your number of school days you probably don't want to go too much past Memorial Day or else you're going to have a lot of school days each year after the State Testing calendar so that's one interesting thing too as well if we were to go another week or two into June that would affect the number of instructional days we would have prior to State Testing and we want those days before so we can have students learning and growing and getting ready for those tests to do their best all right thank you Mr Martin and thank you for the comments and thank you for those who participate in the survey and have given feedback we appreciate it so this like you said we will we will look back at this at a fir at a future board meeting to make its final decision May 16th okay and of course if any governing board members have questions between now and then feel free to reach out to me okay thank you very much appreciate it thank you sir thank you now we go to 2.03 FY 2023 revised budget number two presentation Dr McCord thank you madam president governing board members we bring before United presentation on a revised budget number two for fiscal year 2023 and we'll be asking for approval of this revised budget coming up in the action items and here's Miss Bess again with her team whose computer are we using ah good we've got hers on lockdown obviously good evening again I am very happy to hand this over to Ms Jackie matinin and Miss Ashley Miranda so it's all yours ladies thank you Dr McCord members of the governing board we are here to present to you the final budget revision for FY 22.
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and our next meeting is May what 27th 24th so and I don't think I don't it could either be discussed on June 6 or I just want board members to take a look at it you know and be aware of it be informed yeah okay that works um do you have any other future agenda items no um Miss Gibson cleaned any okay any over here miss McCaleb Um this can be more towards Summer and planning for next year but I do really I want to have a discussion on um some resources and how we can support a district-wide digital citizenship Online safety initiative there are some free easy things that absolutely can be put together and shared district-wide with all teachers as we return um uh also would like to um have a discussion in the future about having a student board member and then um probably be I don't I'll share the information from that session but maybe a study session about retention and how we can use data more effectively for staff retention I don't know if it needs to be a full study session or if I share the information it can be impactful but thank you Miss Ayers do you have anything the thing is I still want to move up the district-wide behavior plan committee because like I know we're just ending the school year but to put something in place literally it takes like a long time and so the longer we wait on it the farther away it's going to be from implementing anything can you explain what is that is it what it sounds like yeah okay so then I would guess to me I feel like district-wide Behavior plan policy updates on jic JK JK are very Sim are like they should be intertwined um and then uh well I guess I didn't put it in here but I I haven't submitted a form but I think in a previous meeting I had brought up like questions about um threat assessments and Crisis Intervention stuff which also goes hand in hand with that stuff maybe it can be like a company even with the Online safety and all that like that can that's all part of it comprehensive safety study session yes and and I can't see it right now because the iPad is not working but um you know having cea at the table to kind of provide us with feedback on the behavioral things that they're seeing is one thing I would wanted to do fairly soon too the only issue we run into is with some of those things maybe discussed in an executive session versus a study session yeah and we I can go over with attorney what would be appropriate for an executive versus the study session certainly the cea feedback or who ever's feedback okay perfect um anybody else okay and I just have to um I I think this one is going to have to happen sooner than later just because we're in our superintendent search um I need for us to revise and update policy GC BBA and GCO all those have to do with superintendent evaluations um yes GCO and gcbba are both of our policies that live that have to do with evaluation instruments um so I need to put that and then also dress code district-wide address code to be as a future agenda item too and then I can discuss later how I I think we would like for that to look like just so you know and as we load a bunch of stuff on our summer for next school year I will not be at the June 27th Maybe okay thank you so that's fine all right um I believe those are all our future agenda items with that being said I move the governing board adjourn all those in favor aye thank you so much for everybody here for being here tonight hope hopefully I can see you guys that are events coming up this week have a great night buenas noches
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could you speak into the mic just a little bit more so they can yes sorry about that is that better yeah that's better I'm excited about it but I don't want to yell about it be careful well I just want you to be on record so today's report will include a short introduction we'll talk about student counts the FY 2023 revised number two mno budget the revised number two unrestricted capital budget and then we'll talk a little bit about other funds so 22 to 23 student counts you can see here we've got the FY 2022 final recalculation in the First Column through revise number four and then the adopted revise number one and revise number two we did increase 261 from adopted ADM to this second revision this slide was shared during the FY 2024 preliminary budget and you can see that fy24 still does reflect 400 student loss so FY 2020 23 mno budget capacity so we've got weighted student count again this similar information as the previous slide that FY 2022 revised number four which was our last revision our adopted budget revised number one and revised number two which is the the one we're presenting tonight so we did have an increase in our weighted student count from the revised number one slight increase in the revenue control limit so there's our 1250 in our weighted student count from adopted which is pretty significant we struck through the energy and water savings transfer we are no longer doing that so we wanted to make a note that that is will no longer be on these presentations so the increase from adopted is 5.45 million from this revision FY 2023 revised unrestricted capital budget capacity again same columns one thing we wanted to point out not much has changed on this except the interest so we presumed that the forms we were using uh were calling for the current year interest that is not true this they were asking for the FY 22 interest we didn't earn any interest last year but so far to date it's almost 270 000 because of the transfer we'll talk about other funds here this evening we'll talk about instructional Improvement you can see that there's a decrease from the adopted we are budgeting very conservatively in this fund we have heard rumors that there may be another payment but at this point we're going to budget the 2.24 million there is also a decrease in the state and federal grants because of the education plus up and the 100th day no longer being available to us other cash funds we wanted to point this out this is um these are all school-based funds for the most part about 98 of these funds are at the school level and then during the first revision we really focus on the levy funds um mno and capital so in any subsequent revision especially the final revision we really focus on all the funds and hone in on anticipated revenue and budget balance carry forward and all of that so Career and Technical education you can see an increase there there was a change this year that allows us to receive the allocation for capital in this for their students so that's we can purchase for Career and Technical education classes equipment and so forth is that what that's for correct okay so on this slide I wanted to make sure that we pointed this out as it's going to impact your um your motion when we get to the action item so um Mrs Humphries gave me a call yesterday and asked specifically well explain to me what the intermediate Revenue source is and so um at the time I looked at it and I was a little bit confused because I always knew the intermediate source to be County funds and when I saw the 12 million dollars I wasn't sure if I was right or not that it was County Equalization because the statute last spring called for County Equalization to be suspended or removed altogether so there really shouldn't have been any monies in the County Equalization so after that went in and discussed with with the team and just hadn't uh caught that in our in our revisions in the past and because the in my mind it was very important that the intermediate really reflect what we received because of the statutory change so that 155 000 or so you see in yellow is the actual amount and that's due to Prior year count Equalization taxation that's now catching up so I wanted to point out that and then in addition as we were reviewing the state revenues we made sure that we were accounting for the classroom site fund revenues as well and so we took the opportunity to change that also this doesn't have an impact on our budget capacity at all this was just what we wanted to do to make sure that our Revenue reporting was accurate so I wanted to point that out and then the next slide is just a recommended motion for whomever's going to make it at the action item presuming that you would approve the final budget revision but approve the 23-year wise budget number two to include the presented Corrections on the cover page as something as simple as that and then tomorrow we will post the um the corrected entire budget capacity to the agenda item and I'm sure Mrs Wilson will be able to reflect that at least it was a question so the intermediate no longer represents the County Equalization because that's been done away with is the state then giving us additional funds to make up for that or what yes okay yes okay okay so going through the county with that money they just give it to us directly no it still goes to the county it passes through the county it's just that there's not that additional component where there's a required account Equalization portion that goes to fund our local school districts the state is now covering that entire amount okay and it's the intermediate is still County funds so it's still we probably will see small amounts from prior years coming in so the intermediate is still coming from the county okay okay thank you thank you are there any questions well I I do appreciate you doing that research because I was like okay maybe Bonnie's not gonna get back to me but you did thank you so I appreciate that Mr Thompson did you have any questions no no question okay yeah um I guess my question was is this the final revision then or that we will see for 2023 yes it is and by Statute is that by Statute it's due May 15th May 15th okay that's what I was thinking Dr Morgan did you have something that you wanted to add nope okay okay well seeing no further questions thank you very much appreciate that thank you guys thank you all right that concludes our work study and we will now move to our brief board business meeting Mrs Wilson if you will please call the roll Chad Thompson here Miss Laurie wood here Miss Sheila eugetti here miss Jill Humphries here Miss Rhonda Paige is not present Madam president president you have a Cora thank you very much we will go to our consent agenda items and I will ask if there's anybody to make a motion for the approval of the consent agenda items I move that we approve the consent agenda agenda items as presented thank you Mr Jetty it's been moved is there a second second thank you Miss Humphries it's been moved and seconded that we approved the consent agenda items as presented all those in favor please vote by saying aye aye aye any opposed with nay thank you that will take us to our action items which we heard tonight and I would ask um that's FY 2023 revised budget number two Dr McCord I think you madam presidential company board members we bring before you for action item 6.01 FY 2023 revised budget number two to include the presented Corrections on the cover page thank you board members is there a motion I'm sorry I move that we approve FY 2023 revised budget number two to include the presented Corrections on the cover page thank you Miss Humphries it's been moved as our second second thank you Mr Jetty it's been moved and seconded is there any discussion well I certainly appreciate the hard work and I know that when we went to current year funding it it is more complicated and complex but I feel like our budget um our people come through for us and have kept us on track and I think that's that's really important thank you anything further hearing no further discussion I'll call for the vote all those in favor of approving FY 2023 revised budget number two to include the presented Corrections wait yes revised budget number two to include the presented Corrections on the cover page as as was motioned please vote by saying aye aye bye any opposed with me thank you that passes as well that takes us to adjournment of our brief board business meeting board members is there a motion so moved thank you is our second second it's been moved and seconded that we adjourn all those in favor please vote by saying aye aye aye any opposed with nay thank you we are adjourned okay
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can we please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all Mr Fano thank you Mr Roman Gino I'd like to read a quick statement if I may the New Jersey opened public meetings while I was enacted to ensure the rights of the public who have advanced notice of and to attend the meeting of public bodies in which any business affecting their interests discussed or acted upon accordance with the provision of this act is supposed to talk Board of editors noticed that this meeting will be published by having a date time in place thereof posted in the offices of the borough Clerk or a library for a rec department and the office of the Board of Ed and the office of school numbers 3456 in high school on April 4th 2023 and notices were forward to reported of the record April 4th 2023 this is an official meeting I'd like to take the first roll call before we swear in our new member and our incumbent members Mr Roman Gino Mrs Abreu here Mr capano here Mrs Fredo here Mr Garcia here Mr Drew Dr pantoliano here Mr Russo here back is not here Mr yanuzzi here romancino the next piece of the meeting will be uh to swearing our new and re-elected members we have two here tonight unfortunately Mr tarabakia cannot attend this evening so first we could bring on a re-elected member it's Judy of Peru there's a Baruch okay with the Bible trading yeah raise your right hand okay repeat after me please Judith I Judith Abreu hi Judith do you sound we swear you solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution the devil Supreme New Jersey and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and that it will bear true faith and then prepare to Faith and Allegiance and allegiance to the same to the same and to the government into the government established in the United States and this state and this thing authority of the people under the authority of the people I Judith Abreu I am Judith Drew you solemnly swear that it possessed with qualifications that's right by law and I possess the qualifications subscribe for the office for the office of member of a Board of Education and that I will faithfully and I will faithfully impartially and partially and justly performed and justly performed all the duties all the duties of that office according to the best of my ability furthermore furthermore I affirm I affirm and declare I declare that I am not disqualified and I am not disqualified as a voter as a pursuant to pursuant to RS RS 19 colon 19 colon 4-1 4-1 so help me go thank you congratulations again now I'd like to call up our newly re-elected member a familiar face Mr Carl raincore okay I call Rancor all right Coral rain Court do you sound only Square the song is where I support the Constitution that I support the Constitution of the United States of the United States and the Constitution and the constitution of the state of New Jersey of the state of New Jersey and that it will bear true faith that our true faith and Allegiance and allegiance to the same to the same and to the government and to the government established in the United States and this State and State under the authority of the people honor the authority of the people so help me God so help me God I call rancorp I call Rain Court can you solemnly swear we swear that it possessed the qualifications I possess the qualification law for the office for the office a member of the Board of Education Board of Education and that I will faithfully and that either faithfully impartially and partially and justly perform and justly perform all the duties all the duties of that office of that office according to the best of my ability according to the best of my abilities help me God so help me God furthermore furthermore I affirm and declare and declare that I am not disqualified I am not disqualified as a voter as a voter pursuing pursuant to RS to RS 19 calling 19 4-1 4-1 show hell hey guys [Applause] thank you thanks well congratulations thank you congratulations to Judy again so Mr alphana before we take nominations I just want to take a minute to just publicly thank Mr Russo for serving as our board president this past year and on behalf of the board Mike I'd like to just present you with this plaque Mike Russo board president 2022-23 coastside Park Board of Education in appreciation for your dedication and service to the Cliffside Park public school system and Mike's been a pleasure to work with you [Applause] foreign and all those late nights of signing everything for me Michael the POS and the vouchers and checks and a lot of that so I appreciate it thank you very much okay Mr Roman Gino now this portion is the reorganization I would like to ask for nominations for the office of board president I'll make a nomination was that Mr Russo yes Dr pantalano okay that was Mr Russo second that okay and that was seconded by Mr capano yep for Dr pantaliano is that correct correct okay may I have a uh show of hands to support all in favor please say aye aye very good congratulations Dr pantaliana thank you look forward to working look forward to working with you okay now I'd like to take ask for a nomination for vice president I'd like to nominate Mr capano okay that was Dr pantaliano nominating Mr capano with that who's second was that Mr Garcia yes okay so we have a first from Dr pantoliano we have a second from Mr Garcia for nomination of vice president for Mr capana may have a show of hands and support all in favor say aye aye okay congratulations to MC mister Hannah look forward to working with you Joe of course you know Mr Roman Gina I'm just gonna quickly go through the reorganization document and then we'll ask for a vote on that and before that now that everyone's sworn in and we have everyone's nomination I'd just like to take attendance again with Mr raincore Mrs Abreu here Mr capano here Mr Fredo here Mr Garcia here Justin the Drew here Dr pantaliano here Mr Rancor here Mr Russo here and Mr Genesee here okay I'm now going to go through the reorganization document a couple of items you should want to point out on page two uh in the middle of page Mr burrato is going to be our Treasurer again great help to the district we happy to have Frank on board again myself my qpa on the bottom of page two I'll be a qualified purchasing agent again that allows me to engage in the large capital projects you know over forty four thousand dollars uh page three TD Bank is going to be our official depository bank if they've been for the past several years uh on page four there's a lot of writing there and it's really all about warrants and checks and having multiple signatures in regard to making sure everything is buttoned up and to drive to transparency when we sign checks or any document a formal document I mean we may sign The Treasure of local monies that we originally spoke about was uh Mr Verrado uh and again on the bottom of page four we go through all our state contracts into page five our County cooperatives and our national cooperatives these are very important to the business of course they allow us not to have to go out to open bid because the open bid process is already been done and awarded up front to these vendors so we take advantage of not only the state contracts the county cooperatives and also the national cooperatives very very helpful to the business really moves things along makes our business much more efficient going to uh page six uh middle of the page as you know we have our internet and Wan that I work with Mr savastano and Mr Domingo's on and all of the it folks we're going to again re-up with Cablevision slash Altis for a win and internet services uh and then on the close to the bottom of the page uh e-rate Consulting another very important vendor for us e-rate Consulting allows us to engage in Telecom and information technology projects that are federally funded and through the bid process they conduct the PID process many times we get as much as 80 cents on the dollar back on Project case in point the one that Mr savastano worked with just worked with me on along with Mr Dominguez we had approximately 180 000 switch upgrade project is that correct Mr savastano and we're going to get about 144 thousand dollars back in the summer in regard to e-rate funding so the array Consulting contract extremely important consultant to our business uh page seven if we go into land Associates and architect and engineering firm and we go into a series on the bottom of our HVAC and preventive maintenance contractor Express air they do a variety of schools in regard to preventive maintenance in regard to the schools and the facilities at schools three School five School six and the high school leads us into page eight okay kind of middle of the page we are again re-engaging with school number five our modular Trail release with mobile lease and directly below that we are re-upping a new 60-month lease with Xerox again Mr savastana was a key integral part and getting that off the ground and we are consolidating not just the lease of the copiers but we're also getting tracking software toner printers and parts as part of the overall at least agreement which is it's much cleaner and we're getting a significantly uh excellent bang for our buck incrementally and we also got 29 000 check from Xerox in regard to the old equipment trade-in and that's about two months worth of lease costs so it's really a win-win when we re-up with uh with Xerox and I appreciate all of the health Mr sabastano game with the processors it's quite rigorous and uh appreciate that thanks help page nine again top is we see a company called Zol they are a defibrillator company again they do all the work in regard to making sure they're working correctly replacement parts replacement units obviously extremely important to the district we have them throughout the district again there's Auditors and other contractors and vendors on the space second from the bottom again a very important contract and a vendor to us is a CJ Vander Beck handles really all our boiler work in regard to inspections repairs they are a very responsive and respected uh vendor and contractor to the district and uh if folks remember Ida back in I think it was September of 2021 when we had some issues at six school with our boilers and some significant water issues they came on site and really uh kind of bailed us out in regard to getting us back up and running so they're really good really good contractor and then the real good business partner so we we appreciate them being allowed to re-up again with Cliffside Park again page 10 a variety of vendors there's Allied fire and safety they do all our portable fire extinguishers for not only the district but all of our buses extremely important part of our business and then second from the bottom is coaching there are energy consultants and they really go out and help us get energy bids above and beyond PSE and G okay some point we just approved a company called approved energy in November 2022.
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friends what if I can tell you you know what all right all right we're gonna go and get started good morning welcome to senior breakfast in the sixth annual senior celebration this morning wall now you've finished in with your breakfast we'll celebrate the achievements the class of 2023 by announcing individual Awards and scholarships winners some of these have already been have mentioned so I'll ask you just to stand students when your name is announced please come forward to accept it again unless it's already something we've recognized then I'll just ask you to stand but I want to mention it today afterwards you'll then we'll tell you up here if you come up against certificate to go into the gymnasium get a picture with by Miss Packard we'll begin with our impact Student of the Year this year's student impact of the year is presented to the student who has accumulated the most community service hours during their High School career the student accumulated 363 hours of community service congratulations to Gibby Gabby Livingstone [Applause] congratulations go get a picture man next we'll look at club members of the year this year clubs met monthly during homeroom Club advisors were asked to select a club member of the year and they picked one from each group come on up when I call your name academic challenge Brooklyn a strike [Music] [Applause] best buddies Emily Buss [Applause] FCA Libby Bridges [Applause] FFA Riley Amos [Applause] first priority Bradley Bernard [Applause] math team Bradley Bernard e-club Carly Hoggard Spanish club Lauren ERB [Applause] student council Paxton Reed don't forget to go get your picture taken in the gymnasium please all right these are previously awarded scholarships at different Banquets or ceremonies these students have already received there so at this time if you would just stand and I will read off of what you one Maddox Corbin won the Columbia agriscience Association scholarship one thousand dollars George obernagel scholarship 1500 and the Kenneth W stump Memorial Scholarship 1500 Maddox Corbin Emma Ebner she won the crown scholarship two thousand five hundred dollars Emma Avenue Megan Elliott the Columbia Athletic booster club scholarship 500 Megan Elliott [Applause] score I think this one out one second Hayden habermill Columbia quarterback Club scholarship 500 Columbia Athletic booster club 500 Hayden hammermill Carson Janey Columbia Athletic booster club scholarship 500 Carson's inning Brooklyn a strike Columbia Athletic booster club scholarship 500 order Foundation scholarship one thousand dollars Brooklyn a strike [Applause] I got it right here so far all right let's see if that works all right Riley Amos the Columbia agriscience Association scholarship one thousand dollars Crown scholarship two thousand five hundred the George overnagel scholarship 1500 Kenneth W stump Memorial Scholarship one thousand five hundred dollars Riley Amos [Applause] Macy polcher the Columbia Athletic booster club scholarship 500 Macy Poulter [Applause] Mason Schnabel Columbia quarterback Club scholarship 500 Mason Janae Kate tenis Crown scholarship two thousand five hundred dollars Brennan white Columbia quarterback Club scholarship 500 Brandon White and Zach Wetzel the Columbia quarterback Club scholarship for 500.
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to order please liberty and justice for all all right anybody comments I don't see anything all right anybody have any Communications big week all right cool down I am a motion to approve the consent agenda please Julie second Megan all in favor or any discussion all right all in favor of the consent agenda all right all right against nothing so the motion passes great uh cheers report I don't really have much other than to say a big thank you to all the voters um for coming out to the top meetings Monday night that was great uh I said enough uh I went through a long story uh thank you on social media but I think um the committee probably owes a special thanks to Jackie office and Kyle Burns the presidents of the ptos and the towns uh for getting all the parents together and involved and hopefully we stay that way I already talked to them I'm sure there'll be more involved as we go in the next few months and into the next year so that's good stuff but I think um based on the way the votes went the numbers of people learning I think people are pretty excited and ready to support the schools so I think that was a good thing thanks to the town staff checking in all those people yeah it took a little while there was going to get going on a lot of people online yeah the auditorium they thought they estimated about 400 people in the auditorium but um I mean it was full there was like three she told us 300 something registered voters that came in oh I don't know exactly how many were in Berlin I know one of the votes that I saw had 201 votes cast that wasn't the school vote I think the school votes were 180 too probably but uh yeah good stuff uh okay uh Caroline is not here tonight she couldn't make it that's absolutely fine no problem uh subcommittee reports I don't know if we have any subcommittee reports Megan no uh nothing from success uh policy we don't have a report to make uh Lori's not here but we are going to be taking a look at iCarly with me a couple of uh fundraising and cash donation policies that we have and I'll speak more of that during the votes um all right so that brings us to Carol yeah I just had a couple other things um if you take a look at my report that there's a request on Daniel Joseph who's working The Graduate in addition to going to the classrooms he's going to want to meet with focus groups so we'll meet with student focus group staff public schools and inherent employees groups so we were talking about the possibility of asking the school community members to put together a group of five individuals that you think might be willing to sit with him for about a half hour 45 minutes and kind of give your thoughts around whatever I think you'll need where you feel the culture of the school is but I feel like all of you kind of pulse on that more than I do so if you want to let me know I put my May 12th I need to also this next week if you could just give me an idea and I put the times in there too so you would know the time to come over to the school to me and then we can catch up again any questions just just touch base with me to that that I wanted to take care of also just a reminder about the retreat in July of the 12th event he's going to be contacting you from first week of June just to get to know each other if you want to do like a zoom call instead of the time the reason I can work on that together accomplishment with you to set up their time because it's best for you to talk with them just the way it comes in and has a sense already so that's taken care of and the other piece of just quickly Nancy Phil getting from the Boylston Historical Society who called me this afternoon I'm so excited I just I just want to share this with you before we go on she so she I said send me an email she's likely but I'll just give you the gist of it exciting news a new publication of Boylston Civil War veterans a book that includes well documented initial research by tejanto students has been published by Boylston historical collaborative deaths of oil semesterical commission Historical Society who works in public library through the support of the West and cultural Council it started out as a conversation that Nancy and I had several years ago just with my other role and it was around getting students to hunt everyone involved with the community the students did research on Civil War veterans that were part of the Town their history and I kind of brought them back to life again and gave them sort of that honor of who they were and what they fought for so they did a presentation on Zoom that spring after they had done their work and it was well received by the community anyway they took that information and now they published this book so she's going to get me in cup well I asked her she said she's going to give a bunch of people all the students involved she's going to um I thought that that was so exciting to send them is that something that's going to be like publishing for sale yes other are the students still in school no they were already graduating their lab actually last year cheers graduates I think a number of them changed that's pretty cool I don't know if any of them are around and want to come in and talk about it they can come inside from college that's what she wants a way to give them their give them their books and so we got and asked I know about a number of them being like okay another no positive note thank you to ask me um that's just a report that they send in three or four times a year of getting used to learning about how they operate that's an interesting document for you that I think you typically both of it yeah we don't do anything it's part of the board cool all right well thank you Carol uh Nancy do you have anything to say on the budget um I just wanted to cover some stuff that you guys have been voting on okay that's okay yeah um the first one is the collaborative oil bid so Berlin Doylestown has won several area school districts that we participate in a collaborative procurement for heating we do this through the French River Education Center by participating in this procurement as a group instead of individually districts can aggregate their volume and secure more advantageous pricing than each district can do on its own so this year we've had several bids we kept repeating it and declining them because we were hoping for a better outcome especially because the market was fluctuating so much this year we finally received a bid that we were looking for and we're happy with it it was awarded on March 30th 2023 to Dennis kberg for three dollars and four cents per gallon this cost increase is well in line with what we estimated and factored into our fiscal year 24 budget last year's price was 2.90 so it was a way that the market has been frustrating I'm really pleased with this price so we will be asking the committee for acceptance of this oil bid um I also have the excess and deficiency certification so the Mass Department of Revenue division of local Services certified our District's access and deficiency balance as of June 30th 2022 the amount was for 369 571 this is a small decrease from last year by 12 722 this is just due to how miscellaneous perceivables were applied to the operating budget you can find the official Communications in the Department of Revenue and the school committee's drive so I'm asking the committee for acceptance of this certification there's two grants that we have received they're both through Maya there's a risk management Grant and a wellness Grant Maya is a Massachusetts interlocal Insurance Association it's a non-profit organization serving its membership consisting of new municipalities in Ridge Regional School Districts and we you also use them to procure our health care benefits and insurance offerings so annually they offer these grants to their members and we apply for them so the risk management Grant is intended to reduce the risk of a claim for the insurance carrier so we applied for this we received six thousand dollars that's being applied towards the Boston Elementary School facility assessment the wellness Grant is also offered annually it is provided to its members with resources for creating and maintaining great places to work members are encouraged to invest in projects or equipment they're promote a good Workforce and a healthy work of culture this year we received ten thousand dollars and we are using it in the district offices we updated the kitchen area with a new refrigerator coffee maker in the new toaster oven everyone in the district office chairs that are good for your posture they're like really nice and line up or ergonomic um thank you we also purchase new visitor chairs for the entryway and some additional deserved shares for people's offices who didn't have chairs for people to come in um and we're ordering new pictures for our walls and also some tables so we're very excited we're getting really pretty in the district good so we'll be we're asking for acceptance for both of these grants um we also received a donation from npb I guess it's the third boys did LLC for 35 000.
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[Music] foreign [Music] foreign [Music] all right good evening everybody I'd like to welcome everybody to the uh May 3rd 2023 uh regular meeting of the Board of Education in Brookfield Connecticut um I'll call call us to order we have all our members of the Board of Education are here I'm Dr Burrell and Dr Mann and please join me for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all um okay so um first up tonight we have a big crowd here tonight this is great um first up tonight um I want to make a couple of proclamations on behalf of the board um you know it it may not be obvious but this is teacher and staff appreciation week so the board always wants to recognize our teachers and our staff and our nurses because it's also Nurse Appreciation Week for all the great work they do for everybody so if you bear with me I'm going to read some proclamations and we'll have a representative of the teachers union and then from the nurses Union come up so Teachers Appreciation Week whereas Brookfield teachers opened children's Minds to the magic of ideas knowledge and dreams and B whereas Brookfield teachers keep America democracy Alive by laying the foundation for good citizenship and see I'm sorry and whereas Brookfield teachers demonstrate a passion for teachers that inspires enthusiasm for learning and whereas Brookfield teachers fill many roles as listeners explorers Role Models motivators and mentors and whereas Brookfield teachers are the key to the quality and success of the Brookfield schools and whereas Brookfield teachers continue to influence our children long after their school days are only memories is all that the Brookfield Board of Education supports and endorses May 8th to May 12 2023 as teacher and staff appreciation week and that the board extends its wholehearted appreciation to Brookfield teachers for their outstanding contribution to the children of our community and urge all members of our community to take the time to recognize and acknowledge the impact the teachers on our and our children's lives so I'd like to invite Tara Nygaard as a representative of the Brookfield [Applause] and and for our nurses whereas through their skill and expertise our nation's School nurses helped to foster a healthy nurturing community in which our children can learn and grow and whereas most often School nurses are the first and sometimes the only line of defense against illnesses and conditions our students face making their contribution to the education and Welfare of the student population invaluable and whereas the nature of the profession calls on their ability to take roles beyond that of a health provider acting as a teacher a confidante mentor and friend to the students of Connecticut whereas today's society presents students with an overwhelming number of physical social and mental ills and School nurses have become an essential component of the effective health programs both in and out of the classroom whereas the overwhelming dedication School nurses show to their profession and to the children they care for stands as a testament to their commitment to the success of Connecticut's future Generations now therefore be it resolve that the Brookfield Board of Education supports and endorses May 10 2023 as School nurses day and that the board extends its wholehearted appreciation to the Brookfield nurses for their outstanding contribution to the children of our community and we urge all members of our community to take the time to recognize and acknowledge the roles of these nurses on their and our children's lives please join me in having Beth O'Connor come in and accept our thanks for everything thank you and while Beth is up here it is important to acknowledge and remind everybody we did acknowledge her a couple of months ago Beth is retiring after over 20 years with the school district and serving our students okay and the third item under our recognition is um the uh our annual hrra uh Houston tonic resource recovery Authority annual poster contest so Dr Brown I don't know if you want to make any opening remarks sure I'm good can you hear me on the mic because it didn't work before okay thank you um yes so I I really as we just saw Mr Belden and thank you for the proclamations it is an evening of celebrations uh as will the the June meeting be as well there's just so much to celebrate in Spotlight and uh and highlight frankly of all the incredible work that goes on day in and day out in our school district whether it's with our families and our students who are here tonight uh our faculty our staff our Administration um it's just uh incredible and I couldn't be more proud um and I'm just so excited um we we annually do the HR ra poster contest we have lots of participation I think our turnout this year is in the 170 to 180 range um near record high for us and Lisa gramling the Board of Education superintendent secretary leads this project for us annually and it is an annual award-winning project and so I'd like to have Lisa come up and talk a little bit about the project itself and then introduce the students in our different winners that we have tonight that are here with us in parents when it's time for students to come up please feel free to come up take pictures enjoy and know that this is also on video so this will all be captured for you as well Thank you Lisa you're welcome and am I on yes welcome to the 16th annual Housatonic resources recovery Authority poster contest award ceremony or as we call it the hrra we are so happy that all of you could join us this evening this is really uh such a fun project to be a part of and I am glad to take the lead on that I am Lisa gramling I am the secretary to Dr Burrell and also the coordinator for the HRA for Brookfield um a little background on this contest we typically started off in January where the HRA gives us the templates to distribute to the students and in the middle to end of February those uh submissions need to be sent to the local coordinators at each building um the most important thing about this contest is the theme that the hrra gives us so does anybody remember what that theme was anybody remember recycle outside the box remember because that's why you guys are here and you did a great job so uh anyway so the buildings judged the posters uh first second third place and then those entries come to central office where we take all of the first place by grade and send it off to be judged regionally and that happens typically in the middle of March and after that the HRA has their big judging and then they have their big celebration which is typically the last weekend uh the last week of April so I'm sure the regional winners that we have um here this evening were there um so again recycle outside the bin it was a very important theme to The HRA this year um just some facts that we had 173 participants this year and five Regional winners so you guys did an outstanding job yeah yes absolutely and so um that's really basically the nuts and bolts of the whole contest those of you that won regionally I believe last week you probably got your artwork back so um you'll get a ribbon tonight but I believe you should have your artwork if you don't please let me know a huge thank you to the HRA and the principals and the secretary's teachers and all of the coordinators in the building because we just could not do this without you so um we are going to start this now with our littlest artists and this is various if you could come and help me please so we're going to start right here so our first artist is kindergarten first place and also second place Regional winner Brynn Clarkson kindergarten second place is Isabella you Isabella here no okay kindergarten third place Isabella is here Isabella's here yay kindergarten third place Isla Whitmore not here okay first grade first place uh and Regional Regional honorable mention is Rico Flores first grade second place is Luca hanlack are you still here no all right one more for Center School first grade third place Bridget field is Bridget here yes thank you all right Mrs ferius thank you so much Dr P would you like to come up and help me our second grade first place and first place Regional winner is Christian Metz thank you second grade second place is Avery D'Souza can you agree with us all right [Music] second grade third place is Tyler Freeman third grade first place is Natalie ziegelmeyer third grade second place is Kaylee Clarkson third grade third place Evelyn chatino [Applause] fourth grade first place Drew fries [Applause] fourth grade second place Natalie Freeman foreign third place Jason noon okay Mr Renda you're up on to Whiskey near our fifth grade first place is Amber Zhang fifth grade oops sorry fifth grade second place is Brianna Lynn fifth grade third place is nikhail manawar thank you sixth grade first place is Brian Rowe sixth grade second place is Caitlin Lynch and sixth grade third place is Bryce Korea foreign ER I do not think we had any uh seventh or 8th grade entries so Mr belanda on to ninth grade we'll start with the ribbon right up top ninth grade first place and first place Regional winner Alexandra contras 9th grade second place is Catherine Henderson [Applause] laughs ninth grade third place is Rebecca batterton and finally this was our uh grand prize Regional winner last year this is 10th grade first place and first place Regional winner Alvina Bilal I think that's it so congratulations to all our winners to everybody that submitted an entry thank you so much and hope we see you next year thank you for your time thank you well thank you all for coming thanks everybody congratulations thank you Mrs gramling um so bored I had a request from our student representative because she has a conflicting meeting this evening if we could move her up to next on the agenda would you all be okay with that could I have a motion to move item seven to the next item on the agenda moved in a second okay so I moved in second all in favor all right Caitlin thank you so much all right hi everyone it's been a while since my last report um so I do have a lot of updates today um starting off the BHS PTO had its monthly meeting on April 20th they discussed several topics including the recognition of teachers during Teacher Appreciation Week providing options for student athletes to eat after school possible fundraisers a review of The District's strategic plan and how to increase parent involvement in the organization the next meeting will be held on May 18th at 6 30 in the BHS Library a group of ninth grade earth science students visited the American Museum of Natural History in New York City on April 25th and students visited the American or no students were lucky to experience a show in the Hayden Planetarium our college and career counselor Mrs Usher worked with New Milford High School to Chaperone a field trip to Penske Automotive Group in Fairfield on April 25th students were able to learn about careers in the automotive industry and got to see some unbelievably high-end Porsches peer counseling held its annual head shaving event on April 27th to raise money for Childhood Cancer Research Chick-fil-A came to support the vent participants had a great time left with a lot less hair and felt good about supporting a great cause senior prom is next Friday May 12th at the Kenwood Inn with a red carpet theme we are very excited about that several state and local award ceremonies are coming up the ciac Unified sports had their award ceremony on May 1st the swc leadership awards are May 4th The ciac Scholar athlete awards are May 7th and the Western Connecticut superintendents Association awards are on May 15th the BHS celebration of Excellence will take place on Monday June 5th at 6 PM in the BHS Auditorium the BHS School climate committee is sponsoring a clean day on Saturday May 20th from 9 to 1.
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uh sites of facilities called the meeting at 602 and um I'm going to turn it right over to you then okay thank you so we have a pretty busy agenda tonight um there's two items uh kind of Two and a Half items in public session and then we're gonna jump into executive briefly to talk about some school security items and then we'll break back out to adjourn um so we'll Jump Right In number one is the knee ask uh report and there were a few items um regarding facilities that Antonio was gracious enough to put together a little report um and he's going to talk through some of the items for us there are seven items on here so I'll share my screen so these can be up um while he's talking through them so Antonio everybody hopefully you can all hear me yes yes thank you yes so we've been um we've been picking at uh all the items that were identified in the uh knee uh niask uh report um we have put together a little report for you guys that uh uh kind of highlights where we're at with the remainder of the items um the decrease in crowding in the hallways obviously that's uh a lot of that is going to be uh alleviated by the construction of the new Danbury uh Career Academy as we pull additional population out of that school that's kind of how we've been spearheading and addressing that issue um item number two was a discussion regarding elevators all of our elevators have now been updated uh they have brand new technology in them they've all been tied into the emergency management system for the school so that work was done um last year I believe yeah the end of the summer last year um the Danbury High School science labs um we actually had a good kickoff meeting today uh with uh not only Boe Administration but uh several staff from uh the Danbury High School and um we're well on our way to getting that project designed um what you're going to see in the next uh uh several weeks probably the next four weeks is a um there'll be a um what we call an academic spec or an educational spec that you guys are accustomed to uh reviewing and approving so we're working with um sorry about that we're working with um uh the high school to uh gather all of their educational needs pertaining to uh the Danbury High School science lab renovation we have a deadline on June 30th to actually submit an application to the state for reimbursement on that project and we totally plan on being able to uh hit that Target based on today's schedule um so I apologize my phone is blowing up um so Mike Sean hanley's trying to get get on the meeting I don't know if you um okay yeah it's him it's him blowing my phone up um any you know he might not need to be on the meeting but I just thought that um if for some reason that I couldn't uh make this meeting um he could cover for me so if he could get in he could if not don't worry about it okay um so um the Danbury High School science lab is a pretty large project uh it encompasses uh not only several floors but um it's a pretty uh good-sized uh price tag so we definitely want to make sure we secure reimbursement and um when we got the referendum passed I did communicate the fact that we would seek reimbursement on this project so we're doing exactly that but that project is well on its way after hiring an architect there's an entire RFP process we have to follow in order to meet the state uh mandatory requirements for bidding so we're well on our way uh uh to doing that and I think everybody's pretty excited about that this is a long time coming uh project um the other item that um was pulled out of this report was the health services uh Improvement that's basically the nurses area so we have put together a plan uh that we thought would address the concerns identified in that report um and we were willing to actually we had pulled a purchase order to try to get that project executed uh during uh the break that we had um but we realized that some of the staff in the nurses area had sort of some other thoughts um on how to re resolve some of the issues that they have in there so we did come up with an alternative plan um that will be eventually approved I I do need to get the Board of Ed to approve it because in my opinion doesn't really specifically address the report uh but again I take my direction from the Board of Ed if you guys feel this is what we need to do then I'll move move forward with that project so as soon as those drawings are approved it is scheduled for us to execute that project this summer as soon as the kids are out of school [Music] um moving on to item number five uh we are starting with the bathroom Renovations and this is going to be a multi-year process but um it wasn't specifically identified which bathrooms needed to be updated in the report um but we are going to start updating and we have been by the way we've updated uh several uh staff bathrooms and and uh other sorts of bathrooms in the school but this this is now uh this summer we're actually going to start renovating some of the large gang bathrooms that uh uh the the kids use and um we're starting with the Ewing and uh we're going to continue working our way through renovating some of those bathrooms uh to get them to uh the problem that we're having there is some of the old pipes in the wall are old steel lines and they've corroded and uh they corroded to a point where they're accumulating uh deposits in the pipe which isn't allowing the water to exit after you flush like the urinals so we're working our way through uh replacing that piping and replacing the urinal sinks and anything else that the specific bathroom needs uh to make it uh really a nice functional bathroom um going to the second page so we have a significant issue in the school with the steam pipe that runs through the entire tunnel system underneath the floors of the high school it's been an ongoing Challenge and uh although we have been pretty good at identifying some of the leaks which ultimately take our heating system down our goal is to try to do a survey this summer where um we remove some of the asbestos that's in these tunnels gain access to the pipe and evaluate the Integrity of the existing piping system so we can put together a capital project that replaces this pipe where it needs to be replaced um this is a this is a huge undertaking uh because all of the work is in a confined space environment which means a confined space means you have to really uh have a lot of criteria that you need to meet regarding OSHA for entry uh and this is really for our workers it isn't so much for students uh these kids should not be in those tunnels and I don't think they're in there but it does create a huge challenge for us to work in there but we realize it has to be done and the best way to move forward on this is actually getting an assessment of this piping system um item number seven is um an HVAC study uh we are going to conduct a uh study of our HVAC system determine uh What uh units what systems what potential duct work uh dampers need to be replaced and this is in an effort to create the next project that we would be executing via securing some monies either through Bond or through um a referendum vote um so both of these items are really spearheading a future project that we would need to sort of better secure uh Heating ventilating and the limited air conditioning that we have in the building um so we're working through several of these items um obviously if anybody has seen the report uh you'll see the report is substantial um I'm just highlighting some of the facility issues but the report also had a significant amount of comments pertaining to academics uh the way the high school is administrating some of their programs uh so we're working together to really put our best foot forward and show progress uh for for this report um obviously the biggest uh uh the biggest accomplishment was securing the 208 million dollar uh bond which included all of the Monies to try to get the projects that I just described to you executed so as soon as those monies became available we quickly started with issuing uh scope documents working with the school system the administration and issuing rfps to get professionals on board so we can execute the design so that pretty much um kind of sums up uh our efforts in uh resolving and addressing the comments in that report Antonio thank you so much for coming I I know you're in the middle of two different meetings right now so I really appreciate you taking the time um I I can address some of the other things we talked about today just give a little bit more description to the science labs and all that so if you've got to run I can I can keep talking to that so yeah Mike uh you were uh really interested intricately part of that meeting today and I'm sure you can provide some good updates on um uh those efforts moving forward and uh we're also going to be uh kind of moving forward with some other projects that we're dealing with we have a an elevator project at uh haste town so we've identified it and put together a scope document for that we're going to be soliciting architectural services to get that work done I'm going to be meeting with the administrators in that school uh just to go over what we think the project uh requires as we do with a lot of our projects so we're moving forward with that we have the Pre-K a center uh that uh you'll see in the next uh couple of weeks we're going to be coming before you to talk about that uh so there's a significant amount of work uh that we're handling with a very very small staff uh we've been trying to hire some Engineers but has big basically the last eight months uh We've we've not been successful so uh we're still plugging along we're not moving as quickly as we like but Staffing is uh just a major issue not only for US state of Connecticut and other municipalities um we're also doing the roof at King Street that's starting in June Anthony yes that's right we got that fully designed thank you Sean for mentioning that uh that's all ready to go we're gonna have a really busy summer uh but uh there's going to be a tremendous amount of work that uh is going to be implemented and pushed forward this summer and Mike we're going to be working with you just to kind of coordinate uh some of your summer classes and where you're having those summer classes and we discussed this before but we do need to coordinate that with you absolutely absolutely yeah we don't want to delay anything with with some of this construction if we get it on the timeline we want to make sure we we go and and don't lose any critical uh summer days here so sure hey Mike I I got maybe two three minutes if anybody has any questions I obviously don't want to leave you guys high and dry if you do have something you want me to talk about I will the Career Academy Maybe oh uh the Danbury Career Academy is uh is going well the first phase of the project is well on its way um the demolition is probably about 80 percent done we are out for bid on phase two uh we're hoping to get bids back in about three weeks there's been a number of rfis that we are answering we might end up extending the bids uh due date by two weeks we want to give the contractors enough time to really uh kind of get this new information in answers to the rfis uh because we feel the more they're educated and more their understanding of the project the more uh diligent they will be in providing pricing question um what year was the original report done then the ask report yeah so the one I have is this is the one that was last given to the board it's uh September of 21.
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[Music] thank you [Music] [Applause] [Music] foreign [Music] thank you [Music] [Applause] thank you [Music] thank you [Music] stop the time [Music] foreign [Music] Board of Trustees meeting of May 4th 2023 is called order at 3 15 PM the following members are present Jessica Guerrero Anna El Percy Catherine H Smith and Marie Randall Trejo and Brian O'Neill staff has requested the following amendments to the agenda exhibit D replace page two and four to replace the number of employees two three page 21 of the agenda poll item 11.22 11.22 on page 21. on page 21 yes okay you'll pull that item on that one do I have a motion to adopt the amended agenda so moved Motion in a second all in favor say aye aye opposed uh public comments do we have any seeing none we are now moving to closed session thank you and it is 360
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