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I don't know why video unavailable oh great okay so it's live streaming I guess on YouTube okay can you make um since they're doing just this can you make the board the boardroom TV no the sound we're not going to use the sound I look I turn it on because no we have to have it on because they can't they're GNA be able to hear no they will the boardroom TV has a camera oh do want going to do it yeah can you hear us yes I can why is it have an echo like the public knows yes I can hears Saturday why can't I hear your here close you can't hear me yes I can hear youbody I'm um the microphone speak again can you hear me than so I unmuted myself oh can you unmute yourself no I did I unmuted myself is this sound you think it's on my end you can't hear me because I'm guess you know what L um is gonna have a [Music] presentation Lu can you hear me I think you should take this one over there too [Music] can you try now can you hear me Lis hello can you hear me yeah I can hear you now hey Lis you know I was G to tell you that um Ro is gonna have a presentation is that going to affect this TV or no why everybody going be be able to see it right yeah the board members will be able to see it yeah when he Ro does the presentation is he GNA share from remote he's right there's gonna be sharing remotely well he's here he's sitting there right there behind with Cesar do you GNA be presenting from the laptop do I need a podum laptop yeah I think so I didn't know I think I don't know if brought his I don't roio did you bring your laptop did I bring my laptop yes he did he did um Lis okay but as long as he joined the zoom meeting okay okay good morning everybody I'm calling to order the special board meeting the AL Elementary School District order Trustees for Saturday October 28 202 great I call the order this meeting at 9:05 a.m.

uh tomorrow will you call roll today's a special board meeting of October 28th 2023 at 9:00 am members of the board in attendance president mfam president mfam uh vice president Corina Loa president clerk Andres Kinto present member Linda Chavez ch's present member Andrea Flor Shelton here and members of administration superintendent Dr Bower President we should move to the mics it's gonna be that problem screaming the whole time marel are you able to hear us yes I'm able to hear you as long as you guys speak a little louder I think we' be good you could want to come in here because it's a Saturday morning we don't have an issue of audiences and I should say okay and may I remind you marel there will be no presentations this is just going to be the for self evaluation okay and for president uh as our conversation last night do you wna tell the the rest of the board yes so I was in form last night that um based on advice from General Council that our board bylaw recording uh board bylaw 927 of interest is uh not current and at this time on the advis of General councel uh we will uh table the presentation until such time as general Council can advis us of being by law um not gonna be deal with but um I been a conversation with the administration as well and had the ability to talk to the general councel about um the idea of bringing a conflict of interest training not only for board members but also for any 700 filers in the district so that everybody's aware of what the requirements are for law the conflict of interest and even beyond that of of whatever other is issues might Rise um and so I've I talked to superintendent about the possibility of bringing that uh to not just the board but everybody who for District or has a authority to issue contract Pur so what that 3.02 on the agenda is and additionally I've communicated with the District Attorney's office about providing presentations on the matter and they very open presentation and they asked work with with so they can presentation as approprate for I just want to uh confirm I know that um probably in Reverse to you mentioned that the conflict of interest that board bylaw hasn't been updated I think was a word yes so um I mean and know our council's here um when we're ready for that presentation um are we able to present as is the board bylaw 9270 so we wa um so the the administ I'll be working with the administration to bring an update to that board bylaw that will be on legally outside thank you just to clarify the the the board's bylaw 9270 includes a list of designated filers that list needs to be updated to reflect some new positions in the district and then the vacancy over okay thank you for clarifying and then pres do you need a motion yes motion any questions comments board say none um I see you Shelton yes hi trusty sh hi trust I mean hi and mying I motion is passed unanimously I two is so with that with the r I'd like to do the land acknowledgement the element School District does hereby acknowled District school on TR people further acknowledges but respect and ref alone people TR San Francisco Bay area for their Steward to the the United States of America to the so having said all that we move to 2.01 discussion action board self evaluation I want to note that I have received all the paper evaluation from members of board so uh as I mentioned in my guidelines the way I see is that um you know this is you know more more like Open Session the board members of the board will Express their opinion on the their opinions on the performance of the board and how they believe that the board working at this time I made a clear that I leave evaluations as is they you know because um board members are you know individual board members you know this is reflected of the individual board members view of the board so it is not my place to uh modify or give the appearance of modification any opinions of individual CH fees and I also caution that you know in the event that there are e opinions I deserve the right to recess the board cool off and I want to further caution my my colleagues you know please be delicious in your language you know please also do not try to uh it sper any way indiv trustees so with that said I is there anything I need to do in regards to the board self evaluation would you like me to just give a brief overview okay so good morning board members um I I printed some materials for each of you and I put that in front of each of your places so I thought it would just be helpful real quick to just run through what lawyer like to call the ground rules for this U these are not really rules per se because this is a very board driven process self-driven process um so why are we doing this why does the board do this well number one you have a byla that says you're going to do it every year it's board bylaw 9400 I put a copy of that uh in front of in front of each of you and it says that the board shall annually conduct a self evaluation in order to demonstrate accountability to the community and ensure that District governance effectively supports student achievement and the attainment of the district's vision and goals this is always an open session discussion board evaluation is not and never will be or at least under the current law a Clos session discussion I want to remind the board that um as you as you do you know you take care of this process that's warning it is a board self- evaluation it is not an evaluation of the super intendent or the staff it is specific as to the board as a governance team and how you all relate to each other um I also put in front of uh each of you a copy of the governance handbook that you all uh adopted as a board with the exception of truste FL Shelton who wasn't on the board at that time in December of 2021 hold on didn't you sign off our previous yes prior to Vintage version so and that that vintage version went through substantial change and modification over a series of many board meetings and and so what's interesting or I I think what's what's great about it is that if you look at the major headings in the governor's handbook um section B uh is roles and responsibilities section c is pos positive governance team culture and Norms section D is governance team protocols not surprising oh and then at the last uh on the second to the last page section e is a code of conduct that the board adopted did at that time not surprisingly they are very similar or align with your self- evaluation form that you all turn in this morning to the board president and so you know in one sense the the governance handbook is a is a continuing reminder uh for each of you uh about the values and about the governance protocols and everything like that so in terms of process there is no defined process you don't have to tell he votes numbers or anything like that um different boards handle this in many different ways sometimes for the most part they handle it as an open discussion about pluses and minuses what were the high points of the Year from a governance standpoint in terms of board relationships what were considered to be some of the lower points and what would you like to see different as between each other the five so I haven't seen any of your uh evaluation forms or or you're scoring on any of them so uh with that you know I I don't know if you need me to to manage the process or if you'd like the board president to do it um but uh it really should be in the form of a discussion um just regarding your relationships with each other and how you work together as governance students thank you so much for telling us okay yes I will open you know you know open it up for discussion so I see FL um yeah before we go into any of the procedures we wanted to go through um regarding the bylaw 9400 the third paragraph I just was hoping you could interpret something so obviously it's the board eval evaluation the board shall evaluate itself as a whole for the second line individual board members are also expected to use the evaluation process as an opportunity s that for their own personal performance suggestion like like just it's just a good practice I mean it's in a bylaw just wondering more about that so I I've always considered that to be a sort of a guideline for self-reflection listening to each other uh being willing to take criticism or maybe not even criticism but suggestion about how if someone says you know when you did this um you know I thought it could have been handled different um but there certainly is you know board members should not be required or feel compelled to um you know put in writing their own personal goals for first year the the the but you raised a very important point that re remember that in the in the context of this discussion you should not disclose any Clos session communication any at all so I hope that's helpful that I'll open the floor board president I'm wondering if um just to help the flow of this you know um and that we just don't go all over the place I don't know this is just suggestion that maybe all of us read off our answer um you know we go one by one and then if there's any conversation or even section I don't know again you know this is only a lot of 30 minutes so we read that up I'm just wondering right now we just open it up and might just go well I would say if you if you have any opinions you would like to share you um I will cut you off I after five minutes because I do want to have you know could you just let us you let me know so basically it's sort of like a little you know self evaluation rating sheet right how like you had all of ours and I will then turn it you know and then superintendent you know ask what what wanted because the previous one if you recall the LA the last one was done online and so csba sent the like a composite of all the answer so there is and we have that on in in our files and that that's where we got all the areas for the current one so I was going to at the end of this discussion I was going to ask the board how do you want because we don't have it electronically right this one is on paper how do you want us to safeguard that how want file that you just make a copy and put it in a PDF file and say 23 board self evaluation yes first yes I guess to vice president point or so we're not sharing that here today like I don't know how have a conversation yeah yeah this disc that and then I mean I think that would be just what was expectation the conversation each other or like close far apart guess I would say you this is your opportunity to give your opinion of the board's performance as it is right so it's s like do you really need to read through my you know my ratings or vice president's rating or something like so I'm just trying to close out like what I'm hearing is after this meeting it goes it gets compiled and then it comes back to I if you would like if you would like a copy of every you know I mean it's a public document so I mean I will give this to the superintendent you know for her staff to you know make a copy and you know put it in a PDF file and we can just Sate to all board members to pleasure in in the future I mean or but other than that I mean form of what you think the state of the board is then I like my form back I don't have I gave you all I think comfortable as that maybe to hear each other's feedback I feel one of the five that it's important to hear each other's feedback that's you know the only way that will grow I think that's a you know purpose of this evaluation um and so I mean I I I'm okay with everybody reading my answers because some of it is reflection of myself I gave a lower sport it didn't mean that I look like you or you like some of it is my own reflection on my own um so I'm okay and I think just for um purposes of keeping this discussion at 30 minutes I'm going to just read off my answers um and just keep it focused to the evaluation tool that we have here um otherwise I might go off on something else on another on a conversation of maybe an incident that happened that I might be holding on to so that's just um I know we have our something wrong yeah I know that we are able to you know say whatever we're GNA say in our own five minutes and probably can I say something you I agree with what you're saying because like you said um it it's not your place to I thank you okay are you minutes so board Unity um I the board is focused on achievement for all students I could apply an agreement the board is committed to ACC commodation for uh five is almost always and four is often so we just to say it out loud we got to rate from one being the lowest and five being the highest um the board stays focused on District priorities for the board works well together for the board commits the time to become informed for individual board members do not undermine board decisions four board members agree on the V and responsibilities of the board and the superintendent for board members follow board agreements regarding speaking for the board for board members keep confidential matters confidential for the board gives direction to the superintendent only at board meetings for individual board members do not intend to direct a superintendent for the board treats the superintendent with respect by the board manages internal conference and effective matter man for um conditions of effective governance I just went down board operations for board meetings for Board of development for and board responsibilities setting directions for structure five support and accountability five and Community leadership five thank you oh sounded like you read off my face and and just to finish up my five minutes um I think you know having been here from um a time where we were probably between ones um and maybe a couple of twos um in this short period of time I feel we've definitely um those of us that have been here longer and I know Andre were here before um but men you know I think uh being more in the middle we've definitely you know um shift and we have improved a lot as a board um I think always you know remembering correctly we all wanted obviously the best for our students and staff that we've never really wavered on but all these other areas you know thinking back it really helped me reflect on the um growth that we've had as a board over the years and so um this is great A great tool that help me reflect on the years and the growth some of it you know wasn't easy or or you know didn't feel good at the time but I think you know we're in a much better place and nothing but you know contining to grow on behalf of all those who represent um in this case our children and families of and our staff so thank you for thank you vice president so do use your time I use my time okay yeah three minutes oh nice [Music] I was just like yeah I would say given I've been on the board eight months um I I have almost all fours and fives I will say have some not shes which I don't think are like low scores I think they're just you know my window is more limited and our test less test to the board but I think I'm I would just say it's refreshing how much board Unity um and Clarity everybody has on their roles and responsibility they get a much different sense than the 2012 13 14 years um so board Unity I was in often um I scored often for almost all of them again individual board members do not undermine board decisions I said not sure I do not have a sense that people are doing that I'm not saying like I have you know I don't have suspicions or anything I just it's hard for me to to know that at this point eight month experience um and roles and responsibilities uh seven eight N I did almost always and often um again I feel like I I really I think back to sort of Rio's Point made a minute ago um the board members keep confidential matters confidential that is so important and I especially with what we've been facing and I felt really good about saying so because that that just one time you know makes can make all the difference um under 10 and 11 I just put not sure the board gives direction to that Superintendent at board meeting I'm just not sure you know um but I do appreciate how board members come back and and share the discussions and share the concerns that they're having and to get our Buy in like that that makes the most sense because we all have individual um concerns issues priorities right and but I do feel that then we come back and have a better we have a whole conversation about it um I just do probably need more clarity on we have that item at the end of the agenda that says if you want to add something to the agenda email it to the president I just you know I could maybe have a side conversation like how do you want that to happen or how soon does that need to happen before an agenda because I'm just really not clear on on how we get individual items on the agenda in a way that works for the superintendent the board president um and then board culture yeah I mean I think the relationship between the board and the superintendent is very healthy in in my estimate um I think you have productive hard discussions both public and private in ways that I think are um are thoughtful and not you know personal you know and that's the way it should be right so um again I I feel like a little bit of comparative analysis in my last time but only with an eight month so that's why I just have some notur but it's not an indication of me saying you know it's it's headed in the wrong direction just think I wanted to be a little more have a little more experience before I gave some go start thank you all right you have one more minute any other is there anything you like to say I okay I guess I will just wrap up I I you know I want to say that I when I evaluate I have to evaluate you know there's performance and there's also circumstance too uh you know it's not like uh I've always said that I am looking for growth as opposed to just like my you know my expectation for academic growth in this District just look for a growth Trend as oppos to picking this year and that year and that year because I understand that uh we've all lived through some interesting times I mean I myself didn't expect I know to be asked to put my put my name forward to be appointed to a vacancy while I'm waiting to have my too tooth filled in a dentist office so I wanted to say that my over I will say as an overall despite certain differences of opinions with individual members and that's to be that's to be accepted you know we may all great on ice cream and it you know sometimes the the debate is over strawberry ice cream and Rocky ice cream um when I want to you know stress you know the difference that that has been made in terms of radius boor and this current board majority which is in you know this is the second in it second iteration we've gone you know we've made it out Co intact for the most part we've been able to you know as a board oversee uh the implementation of new academic programs the expansion of academic programs Vietnamese language emersion the Cesar sh Early Learning [Music] Center um The Return of the return turn of districtwide events back to back to District night University M uh new maker space at Sheffer Middle School right the redesign of uh Russo Mente Academy um and also engaging in in big big projects once again right the the uh the accept the acceptance and the implementation of the well I call it teacher in s house Workforce housing the largest single investment in this District you know 50 years was it the the passage of long range facilities plan the upcoming installation of central heat and air in all our school with which is something that that I you know to me personally is a big big deal because I started out on the bond committee looking to rectify that right I I still remember that uh that headline in the Mercury News you know our children being intered melt you know saying that they're melting in the heat you know that you know we are you know I want to say that we are moving in a positive direction a balanced Direction uh uh was that while being mindful of our community's resources in a manner that you know we maintain a balance budget sizable you know a sizable Reserve you know in contingency all the while honoring honoring the commitment of those who served us we've been able to have and Implement fair just compensation packages that reflect the the hard work that our teachers and staff put in for uh our children and our community uh I you know so uh if we're looking you know looking at the big picture I believe that this board is in its current iteration is doing a good job you know an a job you know an a doesn't mean that there isn't there's still room to grow but you know but looking at you know what we've been able to do in the circumstances that we have we have to act under you know this board has done an effective job uh in the governance of this district U you know the only other I guess the only the only thing I would like to Le my colleagues is that one of the things I I've heard and that you know I came that you know we have had differences of opinions I'm sharp differences of opinion in terms of uh you know how we approach governing uh now I like to say for myself that you know um you know to you know each of us have our you know it is not my place to say how best approaches the the role of trustee and of course the role of the person which I'm privileged to serveing this year and uh you know but I would I would all I would urge my members to talk to us you know have the informal conversation first or you know uh so that you know we you know so that we all have a better idea of you know what what what we see is you know something that we can do in the district and as always within the bounds of the but if we could have inform you know start off you know throw off the idea and have the informal conversation first think that you know by the time snowball rolls you know it might be something you know they could put in the on the agenda in the future so uh you know I will leave my self evaluation board on that note so uh let's see here since we have input from all trustees who wish to make a statement and any questions or concerns from members of the board yes I comment one of the things you said yes and again thank you for laying out all the accomplishments I I will say I'll give you all credit right A lot of these things are just just phenomenal but big Li that been going on um so you ended president on sort of the informal conversation to get all going to get the snowball going so so what does that look like right what what would you suggest then because I was under the impression like I would bring an idea to the superintendent um potentially right because I don't know oh have you and two other board members already have this idea and talk about it if I bring it up to a to another board member then have I just like screwed it all up right so so if I have an idea is the appropriate thing to bring it to the superintendent you're like hey you know what two of your colleagues have that idea too so let's think about how we handle that so I'm looking to you I'm looking to you and I'm looking to you because you kind of kicked it off I just want to make sure I always condition that you know as long as it's within the within the bounds of the right but I don't know I don't know the other serial conversations that happened so would the best approach be to bring an idea to the superintendent to to test those Waters first or say hey I'm the whoa whoa whoa you know most of us know like oh I've already talked to two people about this so I don't or one person if I talk to a third then it's so again well I would say that you're always free to talk to one other board member right it could be Kina it could be hre it could be myself you want to correct and then want you have that informal conversation always I would encourage you to talk to the superintendent you know you know I just you you've had the informal conversation right I guess then you know and of course you you can not my place to tell a member of the board not to speak with the superintendent they so I guess I'm going to look to you to about what does informality and right for so that again if I talk to one other board member it's on them to be like I've already had this conversation with two other people so the format that stops there right yes so so you're right so if you reach out to a one of your colleagues on the board on On Any Given subject it's incumbent upon that person you're speaking with to identify for you that they have already spoken to somebody else about and the conversation could end should end there that doesn't preclude you from having that conversation with the superintendent and I think it ties in with what you had said earlier uh trustee Floris Shelton about having Clarity on how get how to get something on the agenda uh the the the superintendent is in or could be within a what we call sometimes a brown a circle right um so once you reach out to the superintendent about it um it's also incumbent upon the superintendent to not share with you what other board members have uh discussed uh about the item but you are free to say this is an issue I would like on the agenda and under your board bylaw it's appropriate for you to have that discussion with the superintendent and with the board president because under your board bylaw they're tasked with the responsibility of putting together the the agenda um and then you can have the the discussion and open or closed session as appropriate but you're absolutely right um trying to have those conversations even with members of the community can sometimes raise Brown act issues so if you're engaging with a community member on the subject and say this is how I would like I I have this idea um and you may be a great partner for the district in this once that Community member says to you I you know it's funny you bring that up because I've been talking to other board members then you have to be mindful of that and and try to avoid getting that kind of information and it really is then about just approaching the superintendent the board president with the agenda request so I just want to thank you and I want to hear from on to I'm just trying to like I know we have the brown up rules I'm trying to get our Norms like what's the how does it flow around here like I'm I'm you know have I've been trying to like hang back and get help like you know let's get through the budget let's get you know and as the New Year comes along I just don't want to overwhelm this the more either with you know new ideas and new things I just wanted to understand just how how it feels so thank you and I I understand like the brown Act is interpreted you know so so differently at where I work right so that's the part too I'm trying to how how does this body do it like and so like round that groups and all that kind of stuff I need to like you know detach from that crazy and think about there are many cour of appeal decisions involved [Laughter] um no the only thing I want to point out is that would be a spoken wheel correct uh there's this idea there's two of your colleagues already asking about it it sounds like would that be construed spoken wheel um as long as you don't get into the substance of those Communications so she can say say the superintendent uh is the SPO is the Hub um as long as she says well I've already had two board members approach me on this subject and so um I could talk about putting it on the agenda but I can't talk to you about what they're talking to any other question comments yes I'm glad that you want you know because it might make it better for the kids me anything that's improve distri um even we don't go for it go for it you all [Music] right is if you have you know please your president can I can I make one final comment yes please yes so in your board bylaw it says following the evaluation the board shall set goals Define and refine protocols and establish priorities and objectives for the following years's evaluation so um you know trusty fla chelton raised the issue of of uh how how an individual board member gets something on the agenda you have a board bylaw that covers that issue but I think I I understand what she's saying is more as a practical matter how does this happen and so um we can have a follow-up discussion about that at a future time but i' like to make a recommendation in terms of the evaluation tool which you have and which follows cba's forms every December you have an organizational meeting and you elect new board officers so I'd like to recommend that at the time of the organizational meeting so whoever the super I'm sorry whoever the President and Vice President and clerk are for the coming year they know what they're going to be evaluated on so that you all adopt the evaluation form at the time of the organiz organizational meeting that you'll be using late the following December and that gives and that way you can make any changes to this form at the organizational meeting that you did so then my guess it'll be on the agenda and um between now and then whether we look at this one and decide to continue on this one or maybe look at other models and bring those forward at that time yes absolutely thank you so much so with that 2.01 board self evaluation concluded so with that with it 2.02 table we move to part three close session item 3.01 announc public regarding it to close in a close session uh superintend Power um item 3.03 Public Employee discipline on the the evaluation but at this time I would take uh take public comment I 2.01 see off close I will now take public comment on item 3.01 public com2 [Music] 949 uh take a 10 minute break open session will resume that I mean session the board will meet session at Thank you very [Music] spee fore speee what I h okay yeah there you go I never expected Portugal to be as expectacular it was yes has the board now open session a.

section Rec Open Session uh item 4.01 report of action taking in Clos session uh um Mr Mr rues would you please report yes close session item 3.03 uh the board unanimously approved the amendment to a statement of charges for one certificated employee to reduce the unpaid suspension from 15 days to nine days and that was unanimous there are no further actions to report okay all righty thank you so much Mr Ruiz so with that we move on to Second side I turn this meeting at 10

Mr President if I could add very quickly Indiana has become a referendum State uh where many districts across our state is seeking referendums or have sought a referendum communities such as valarezo Chesterton monster those are communities that have gone out to or school districts that have gone out to their communities seeking a referendum and have been successful the community of Chesterton has two referendums that their Community is paying for so the need is out there it's not just the Lake Station Community Schools need currently on the November 7th ballot there are 29 school districts across the state of Indiana that is Seeking a referendum for operations to maintain transportation to keep the lights on to keep the schools running deal with Safety and Security issues of our schools that's what our operating referendum is all about some are seeking a capital referendum where they want to use money to build a new school remodel existing schools so those are the two primary referendums that are on the ballot within those 29 districts that are having a referendum vote on November 7th clearly ours is an operating referendum that's what our vote and our communities approved in 2017 and that's exactly the same thing that we are asking you approve November 7th 2023 also our rate is exactly the same that we asked for in 2017 so there is no tax increase as Mr Torio was talking about because we're asking for the very same amount of money that we asked for in 2017 17 which is 54 cents for $100 of assessed valuation many people have sent me in emails talked to me as to why is the question that's going to appear on the ballot saying that on average the property taxes for a resident or for a business in our community is going up 46.3% my answer to that is that question is controlled by the Indiana general assembly and they passed a law saying that question for referendums must be written The Way It Was Written to include an average increase in property taxes whether there going to be one or not as like I said the school is not going to increase your taxes because we are asking for the very same rate that we asked for in 2017 so that question is misleading and it's misleading on purpose please on our website www.

[Music] all [Music] we now welcome Kaye Ang one of our members who will sing the national anthem for us will you walk please rise [Music] oh say can you see by the dawn's early light what so proudly we at the Twilight last sleeping who brght stripes and bright stars through the fight for the r parts we watch were so gly streaming and the rocket the buring came through through the night that FL was still there oh S as that star strangled B yet way for the land of the free and the home of the [Music] bra thank you Kaye you may not be seated I would like to introduce the president of the na of the socios chapter of the National Honor Society Tiffany Lynn good evening everyone and welcome to the ashon high school's 2023 National Honor Society induction it is truly an honor to be speaking before you as the president of the National Honor Society thank you to the friends and family of our inductees our principal Miss St Kerr our Deans miss suvan and miss lelle and our members of the school community and administration for coming out tonight to support us on this special occasion the NHS is a unique organization here at Ash High School it is the only one where students are invited to join based on their academic Merit and scholarship their grade point averages make them eligible for consideration and they are ultimately selected based on their strengths in leadership service and character this factor is what distinguishes us from Simply an honor role we strive to uphold and emulate our four pillars of scholarship leadership service and character as part of our commitment to a service we choose a charity each year to dedicate our time and efforts to fund raise for and support in the past eight years members of the society have raised almost $53,000 for their various Charities this year we have chosen to support why not Devon a Framingham based organization spreading awareness about and helping families fighting dipg a rare pediatric brain cancer our goal is to raise $3,000 by the end of the year to donate to this Foundation to help those families additionally we extend our efforts to make a difference in our community by committing ourselves to frequent community service throughout the year and making monthly donations to the Ashen food pantry being a member of the National Honor Society means that one has upheld and continues to uphold the pillars of our organization as well as the core values of our school and our inductees have clearly shown their strengths in these virtues NHS membership is a privilege that encourages its members to continue to embody our fundamental pillars my fellow NHS officers will now further discuss each of our pillars in detail our Treasurer anim makov now lays the scandle for scholarship good evening everyone I thank you all for joining us this evening in the celebration of the academic achievements of this year's new National Honors Society members as many of you probably know joining the National Honors Society requires a minimum GPA of 3.5 and I'd like to congratulate the inductees for achieving this through their hard work and dedication to their studies however scholarship is not just about achieving a numeric Benchmark instead it is about the way a student conducts themselves during their academic jour journey journey as Ralph Waldo Emerson once said scholarship is to be created not by compulsion by Awakening a pure interest in knowledge true scholarship embodies a lifelong commitment to learning and an Ever growing thirst for knowledge a true scholar wish is to nourish their mind cultivate their critical thinking and be able to apply their knowledge in meaningful ways it is the Lessons Learned both inside and outside a classroom setting that can ultimately lead you to take your place in society and make a difference in the world world the different topics you choose to learn will often interconnect allowing you to meld your knowledge together to think of new ideas or new ways to solve problems in short the Knowledge and Skills you obtain will give you the tools needed to be a responsible and compassionate citizen Beyond this a scholar is not contend with their own personal advancement engaging in collaboration and the exchange of ideas not being ready to Showcase their own intelligence but also to facilitate the understanding of their peers as the mark of a true scholar by clearing the way for the expansion of knowledge both of their own and of their peers a scholar can reach new academic highs these Highs are not only a measure of what we have already learned but a promise of what we can achieve I trust that the pillar of scholarship will be a beacon in your path both in the NHS and in life for a brighter and more enlightened future to our indes I offer my heartfelt congratulations thank you now our vice president Alish lights this candle for leadership good evening everyone today I would like to share some thoughts on a topic that's fundamental to our organization's values and has a profound impact on our lives leadership leadership is not merely a role or it's a mindset a commitment and a call to action it's the driving force that shapes the character of a school a community and the world Beyond as Ralph Waldo Emerson a prominent 19th century American philosopher and leader wisely put it do not follow where the path may lead go instead where there is no path and leave a trail these words are not just an inspirational quote but a call to be leaders to be Trailblazers to carve new avenues for others to follow at Ash High School School leaders leadership is not just an abstract concept it's a tangible force that has a significant impact on our community our school Community thrives through the dedicated efforts of student leaders who go above and beyond academic Pursuits to Ina positive change leadership can be demonstrated in many different ways and it means something special and unique to every one of you whether you're a scout leader CIT board member of a club or even a student who's brave enough to raise their hand in a class when nobody else does I assure you that every single one of you is a leader the impact of this leadership extends far beyond the walls of our school we're not just leaders we're the Future Leaders of our society and the lessons we learn here today will shap our path in The Wider world as part of the candidate process eligible students are asked to consider how they've demonstrated leadership during my application process this question stumped me I wasn't sure whether my position as the president of cares a club dedicated to making our community a more Equitable and welcoming environment would be leader-like enough because of the small size of this group however I soon began reflecting on the positive developments this group has had on our community through both our small group discussions and our schoolwide activities just this morning the car's reading team read diverse pcture books to kids at pway Warren and mindes this helped me realize that a leader is not defined by the number of followers but by the positive influence they have on the around them when we lead with Integrity empathy and a desire to make a difference we will naturally Inspire others to follow in our footsteps now more than ever the world needs leaders who can tackle the complex challenges of our time we Face issues such as climate change social injustice and economic disparities we these are the Uncharted territories that require us to be the Pioneers who Forge ahead and create lasting change our education and experiences at as high school are are the building blocks that Empower us to become these leaders and enact this positive change so I challenge you all not just as fellow students but as Future Leaders to embrace your roles with courage and determination lead by example Inspire others and make a difference in the lives of those around you let's continue to push the boundaries to create new paths and to leave drills that others will proudly follow thank you and congratulations to our new inductees our secretary Rachel Shu lights the candle for character good evening ladies and gentlemen thank you for being here tonight tonight I'll be talking about character although I'm sure you heard this word thrown on before it's more than just a word character is one of the fundamental and Universal principles that guide Our Lives what does this mean it means doing what's right when facing challenges standing firm when facing adversity and extending compassion and respect to others even in the face of disagreement it's not about never making mistakes but rather it's about how we respond in those critical moments think of the student that can listen attentively to their peers and treat every voice with respect even when they might disagree or hold a different view imagine the individual who goes the extra mile to support a fellow student struggling with their studies or dealing with a difficult personal situation at ashon high school this can also mean the students who are academically successful in an honest and responsible manner despite their academic pressures they are consciously following the rules and being to their teachers and peers it is these types of people that the members of National Honor Society embody these are the moments where their character shines through character shapes us and is an evolving part of who we are our life is made up of special moments in which we can take care of each other one of these moments for me was helping this little girl calm down because she missed her mom at school I took her to the library read her book and Min a beautiful smile in her face that taught me the immeasurable value of spreading compassion out of these types of moments my passion for helping children Bloom and it shaped my character and who I am as of today I know that each Indy here tonight has been shaped by their unique life experiences values and beliefs to truly uphold the pillar of character as members of the NHS we have chosen to fully Embrace and live by these values to not only embody them within ourselves but to also go above and beyond in making a difference in our lives and the lives around us let us remember that the National Honor Society is not just about our academic excellence and Leadership gools but it is equally about the character we cultivate and the positive influence we bring to our Comm thank you congratulations and good evening everyone community service is a pivotal value of NHS even though community service is no longer a requirement for graduation at our school AGD here tonight has taken the initiative themselves to complete a great amount of service we ask Juniors to Aspire to have 60 hours of service and seniors 80 it is very difficult as a high school student to balance academics extracurriculars and the stress of College Planning however NHS members have elected to commit a significant amount of their time to community service as well as author Elizabeth Andrew said volunteers do not necessarily have the time they just have the heart these indues have recognized that selfless acts of service are not a burden rather they are vital opportunities to support the great of community while also explaining their view of the worlds those who volunteer have the privil of EXP firstand the impact of their service on both themselves and the communities they choose to serve whether this service includes includ at the food pantry cleaning a trash around town or making Valentine's cards for residents at ethy NHS members are actively involved in making POS difference in the community community service allows students to become well-rounded individuals teaching them compassion and gratitude my personal experience as a volunteer has been both fulfilling and enriching and I can h say that it has changed my perspective of the world in ways I could not have envisioned I been working with the Ukrainian team for three years now to help better her conversational English speaking skills which has allowed me to develop a bird ey view of the crisis one of the reasons I chose to speak about this particular pillar is because it is the one that I found to be most personally gratifying when you're able to see the impact of your actions on the lives of others it creates a sense of purpose and meaning that is not readily experienced through other means as Margaret me famously acknowledged the only thing that has ever truly changed the world are the actions of committed citizens I believe that by honoring the pillar of service NHS students have the capacity to affect meaningful change in both our community and the World At Large thank you our president Tiffy Lan will now explain the significance of light scandles every year since 1959 Ash high school students have been proudly inducted into and upheld the pillars of the socios chapter of the NHS now 2023 inductees it is your turn to uphold these values both in school and in life and to continue the legacy of our predecessors these candles represent the life and spirit of our core values they also represent the individual lights within you all each one of you truly represents the pillars of NHS and each one of you does so in your own special way your inner lives brightened up the world around you and it is your dedication to these tenants that strengthens the foundation and Legacy of this Society we are so proud to be welcoming you into the National Honor Society tonight it is clear that you have reflected your inner mind outwards spreading positivity and righteousness everywhere you have gone now as a new indues I encourage you to use this Spirit to continue to help others in your academic careers years and beyond embodying our pillars to be the best version of yourself you can be we now welcome our inductees who have demonstrated these four pillars in the in the socio chapter of the National Honor Society and ask that they please rise and recite the NHS pledge please raise your right hand and repeat after me I pledge myself to a hold myself the high purposes of the National Honor Society High purposes of the naal society to which I have been selected to I have been selected I will be true to the principles be to for which it stands for it stands I will be loyal to my school I will be loyal to my school and will maintain and encourage high standards will maintain and encourage high standards of scholar scholarship service leadership and character scholarship service leers indues please be seated we will begin with the awarding of certificates and fins and ask that you and ask you to sign our membership role book as you take your place in the socios chapter we now welcome our principal misser to the podium good evening and welcome congratulations to all of you indues this evening you should all uh feel a sense of pride in your accomplishment your presence here shows your commitment not only to the values of ashon high school but also to the addition pillars that you just heard your officers speak about scholarship leadership character and service you met the criteria to be inducted tonight because of your consistent representation of these pillars you've shown leadership in our school and community Through positive contributions in the classroom you work in clubs and activities you were passionate about the example you set on a team and in many other ways you have shown in different ways how to set a positive example and encourage others to follow suit your character has been a model for others and recognized by adults in the school and the Greater Community as evidence by your letters of reference you've completed so many hours of service which I believe is truly how you learn about the world around you as you keep giving back as part of NHS I encourage you to look for service that brings your you a sense of fulfillment and joy NHS membership is a privilege and is our our expectation that you continue to model leadership service character and achievement here at AHS as well as in the community but we do not expect NHS members to be perfect and we ask that you willingly and thoughtfully work to model the pillars every day and when you make a mistake because we all do we ask that you own it and learn from it that's all we can ask on behalf of the administration and teachers of Ashen high school and all of Ashen colle schools congratulations on this accomplishment we are all very proud of you I am very excited to present your certificates and your pins this evening as you were inducted into the socios chapter of NHS this evening I invite the Deans to join me up on the stage and miss theant and we will start the presentation as our induct our Ro book and receive their certificates and pens the officers will read information submitted by the inductees about which of the four pillars means the most to them I'd like to ask andur to lead her row up to be the first to receive aora is most proud of her commitment to the pillar of character as a girl on the Spectrum she always FS a way to get through even the toughest of times that was the Laur a Heidi Housman Heidi is most proud of her commitment to the pillar of leadership as a co-teacher of the German Boston Saturday school she takes pride in introducing the German language to Children Ali Lem Ali best embodies the the pillar of leadership by being involved in various clubs including student council and makea wish she takes on a leadership role in her school community and is determined to make a difference and help her peers as much as possible Ashley mes Ashley is most proud of her commitment to the pillar of character as she takes pride in her loyalty and commitment to her friends and family kathlyn nunz Rodriguez kathlyn is most proud of her commitment to the pillar of character as a student from Brazil she is proud to show character in her classes helping non-english speaking students and serving as a model to other students Julia shrier Julia best embodies the pillar of leadership as the captain of the girls varsity soccer and lacrosse teams the president of public speaking club and the board member of the peer leadership Club Julia knows the importance of collaboration and takes pride in leading a team to a common goal M child m is most proud of her commitment to the pillar of service as the student leader of the food pantry organization a simple gesture she is determined and passionate about giving back to her community Michael tample Michael best embodies the pillar of character every day Michael strives to be friendly fair and understanding in any and all situations including academic classes captaining the cross country team or just in conversation with friends and now our juniors starting with Robert Abramovic Robert best embodies the pillar of leadership as a camp counselor he embodies responsibility and serves as a role model for campers Siri Siri bestes the of leadership as a captain of the girl volleyball team she finds great joy in making her te feel welcomed and motivating them to always to their best Arie brons Arie is most proud of her commitment to the pillar of service as an e Scout she takes pride in her commitment to the community and helping all those around her gar botar Gar best embodies the pillar of service he has completed over 80 community service hours helping special needs students develop fundamental math English and science skills Erica Brown Erica is most proud of her commitment and the pillar of leadership she enjoys teaching ctd to the kindergarten nurse on Sunday morning so they can learn about their faith Julie Burns Julie best embodies the pillar of character she is always an active participant in the classroom Amy cardoso Amy best embodies the pillar ofad ship as president of the class of 2025 she enjoys planning events for her class and having the honor to represent her PE opinions hav CH havies the pillar of leadership as the person who is always available to take charge whenever needed at the barn she works at she takes responsibility for the care of 35 Plus hes she takes pride in her work and she always tackles the day with a positive attitude s ch Soni is most proud of her commitment to the filler Service as president of a local nonprofit organization she aims to improve the lives of people and need and rally support from her community Crystal de jera Crystal best embodies the pillar of character she goes deeper than just being academically successful she is self-disciplined a committ a self-disciplined committed and caring girl which drives her success for not only herself but for everyone around her as well Julia diamond Julia best embodies the pillar of character as an integral member of the ash High School theatrical Society she takes pride in her contributions on and off the stage Pua and mandrin Pua is most proud of her commitment to the pillar of service as a volunteer at Shri laki Temple she always finds a way to reach out and help her community and and has pride in doing so Nathan Gan was unable to be here tonight due to a prior commitment or a service trip um but we would like to share his information okay maybe not Nathan will be inducted at our first meeting in November and his parents will be invited to come um Alison hickey Allison is most proud of her commitment to the pillar of service she takes pride in helping and serving the community Mera iron Mera is most proud of her commitment to the pillar of scholarship as a teacher's assistant at the middle school she takes pride in helping students and grading papers ra ROV best embodies the pillar of leadership as president of the robotics Club he has dedicated himself to growing and developing AHS robotics Michael Kagan Michael is most proud of his commitment to the pillar of service he gives his time introducing 3D printing and 3D design to younger members of the community at New England scitech in na Thomas King Thomas is most proud of his commitment to the pillar of leadership as of his boy scout he takes pride in motivating and leing his fellow Scouts Sophie leeski Sophie best embodies the pillar of character her integrity and compassion exemplifies her character and willingness extra M to assist others one of her strongest beliefs is that empathy and understanding are critical to being a good leader and positive member of society Bren ludka BR is most proud of her commitment to the pillar of leadership as a team manager for the girls Varity soer team she enjoys helping out her PE and be present in the team environment Andrew Maguire Andrew is most proud of his commitment to the pillar of leadership as a youth basketball coach he takes pride in guiding the youth to work together and have fun Anish ponde Anish is most proud of his commitment to the pillar of leadership as founder of the ash G develop supp program and also the president of chess club and works hard in order to strive as a successful leader Jared Ki Jared is most proud of his commitment to the pillar of service he enjoys volunteering from various group countries Liam Paul Liam is most proud of his commitment to the pillar of leadership as a treasur of the class of 2025 he strives to lead the class to have both an enjoyable and productive High School experience Yash pker Yash is most proud of his commitment to the pillar of leadership as tennis captain and coach for younger players he takes pride in his ability to motivate and teach others Gabriel paler Gabriel is most proud of his commitment to the pillar of character as a member of the soccer team he is appreciated by his teammates for the help on and off the field that he gives tylera Tyler is most proud of his commitment to the pillar of leadership as a coach of Youth Soccer TR and helping shap the future of op atics mine Reynolds mine is most proud of her commitment to the pillar of service through volunteering for Community she takes pride in helping others in serving the community Dia sha Dia is most proud of her commitment to the filler of service as a volunteer and team leader at the Metro springham hospital and a proud member of a local nonprofit organization she aspires to better her community every way she can Maggie Smith Maggie best embodies a pillar of scholarship she demonstrates diligence and perseverance across all academic areas and is always determined to do her best Li s Li best embodies the C leadership as a soccer coach he takes pride in guiding and motivating the future generation of soccer players on and off the fielda Bon Leia best embodies the pillar of service she enjoys being an assistant teacher for kindergarten and fourth grade students and a mentor for as middle school and mid school students Joshua Steinberg Joshua best of bodies the pillar of leadership as a coach of both youth soccer and basketball he gives a great effort in building a relationship in his community theage Johnson Vanessa is most proud of her commitment to the pillar of character as a member of the girls Ros City soccer team and a captain of the girls varsity basketball team she takes pride in building up others not only on the field but in the classroom as well AA turn Cliff AA is most proud of her commitment to the pillar of character as an active member of the girls girls varsity lacrosse team and a coach of the Ashen Middle School cross country team she takes pride in encouraging those around her and providing a positive role model to younger students as well as forers Kristen heres Kristen is most proud of her commitment to the pillar of leadership as a captain of the girls cross country team and vice president of her class she strives every day to be a motivating role model to to her cues Garrett wol Garrett is most proud of his commitment to the toner of scholarship in his 48 classes he takes pride in his high grad for I would like to invite the five officers to join me here at the podium in addition to these 45 new members we would also like to recognize an additional outstanding member of the Ashland High School Community the national Constitution allows us to award honorary membership and tonight we would like to recognize someone who not only upholds the NHS pillars but who is a pillar of our community this person is a constant advocate for students whether attending sporting events making connections with businesses in Ashland connecting with leadership of area schools to stay AB bre of the latest educational Trends and developments or simply being a smiling presence in the halls of Ashley and high school encouraging students to get to class on time in gratitude for her giving her all on a daily basis for the staff and students of ashin high school it is fitting that during National principal month we have this opportunity to recognize our leader principal Kelly Shanker as an honorary member of the socios chapter of the National Honor Society she will later have to sign her own certificate but we come on up and receive your thank you for all you do for us congratulations to each of our new inductees as new members of the National Honor Society can be proud of all that you have done to earn this distinctive honor with membership there are also new obligations to your chapter your school and your community but also to yourself as you continue working to uphold our standards and achieve your goals being into being inducted into NHS is an honor and becoming a productive member of our socios chapter will amplify your accomplishments good luck and again congratulations I now ask Pres president Tiffany Lyn back to the podium we would like to thank the following for their help in planning and presenting our Ceremony this evening the members of the board of the National Honor Society who evaluated many candidate dossier and made difficult decisions regarding selection Rachel Shu for providing our musical accompaniment and Miss nameth for assisting her with her preparation our student performer of the national anthem Kaye Yang Mr Harrington for being willing to share the stage after school while we rehearsed even while he was rehearsing his own show to the custodians for helping set up equipment our student helpers who set up and did Ed Out programs and will be assisting at a reception that follows this ceremony my fellow executive board members who worked extremely hard to prepare for tonight's event and finally our our adviser Miss Gan for her dedication to upholding the ideals of the National Honor Society and serving as our adviser please join me once again in applauding all of our new National Honor Society members congratulations and thank you please allow all of the members to exit first and we will see you in the library for a reception in honor the [Music] indues [Music] you can get to the library through this drawer here just take a right and immediate left and the library will be on your left hand side we have cake please take pictures with the cake before we cut it and we have other [Music] refreshments

and Kelly because they have been working overtime on our behalf to try to figure out what is going on with the numbering what is going on with what we have um purchased in services from ke and sort of where we are now um and and where we need to go forward so I just want to um uh just recognize all the work that they've done to get us to where we are this evening um and as you can see from the agenda that got sent out and thank you for sending the followup um which has a breakdown of those additional um recommended good practice policies so we can talk about those um but with that I'm going to turn this over to uh to Kelly and to Kim we're gonna start with uh the series the zero series good evening everyone uh just give me a moment and I'm going to get the agenda posted just so we can follow along um with each other can everyone see the screen okay um so what we did is we're trying to combine the policy audit that was done in March of 2019 along with everything that we've done between March of 2019 to date and see what we still need to do with the policy audit moving forward um so I tried to lay out the agenda along with Kim in a in a fashion that makes sense um so you can see here um our zero series we currently have four Board of AD policies um the zero uh 0521 and then 0523 and you can see all the way over to the right hand side these were the dates that those policies were adopted anywhere between 2018 and 2019 um then if we went to our uh cab audit it then suggested things that needed to happen with these zero um series um so one of the recommendations from cab was that we update the numbers so for example um this zero series was formerly numbered as 88-101 um and so to be in compliance with the cab uh policy numbering we are recommending that we refer to this as a zero series moving forward um so that would be one action that we would ask this committee to consider this evening um okay I don't know if you want me to stop there for discussion or keep going let's see if anybody from the committee has any questions or thoughts about that I think we should move forward with that recommendation that seems like a no-brainer um anyone from the committee have any thoughts about uh that that numbering change the second um sorry uh Teresa so update to series formerly 88-101 where is that so so that's in you know Teresa those old books that we had the three- ring binders um they were organized slightly differently and so that was section8 and all of these recommended or all of these policies fell under eight that's why it had eight Dash when it all went to Cave they renumbered and became zero Series so the eight refers to that old three- ring binder book well the three- ring binder book I have has it updated already that may be an updated book there's one copy of the original book and it sits in the in the boardroom um and that was the old numbering that when when it was sent to cab for review those were the old numbers that they took so there's only one copy I think you may have a you may have one of the books that had some of the PAC mail changes in it that we're trying to unify across everybody's books now this is a book that was taken from online I believe in the beginning of the year yes teres yes Teresa the Teresa the hi Teresa I'm sorry this is Kevin the book that you have um carara P downloaded the policies from the zero series up to the 9 9,000 Series um and that and and make copies for you in that book and later on in the agenda um hopefully we could just kind of talk about where we are with the hard copies later from so we don't need to update it it's already done the the numbers have been updated online in our policy manual online what what Kim is referring to is how the numbers were previously and as part of the service from C they renumbered it they renumbered our old numbers and recodified them so that they're aligned with cave so that anytime we make an update and they say 0523 needs to be updated we're all speaking the same language right right so we don't need to do anything update to Sir right now we don't need to do anything in terms of numbers in terms of numbers no you'll see in few minutes there's one tweak we do have to make you'll see in a sec um the second revision is if I is it okay to move on sh um is the um policy number 020 Board of Education goals um the policy was last adopted on October 24th 2018 and is reflecting the goals from the 201819 school year um so we are making a recommendation to update that policy to reflect the 2223 um board goals um that were already approved by the board 202 this is 23 24 sorry 23 24 sorry I apologize 2 that is accurate and I can click on them for you and here you will see the goals that have already been approved by the board but we are asking that these be reflected in polic policy 0200 and the date that the board approved was um October 25th 2023 one of the things that occurs to me is that you might want to the way that this is embedded as a policy now means you're going to have to approve it every year to replace it in the policy book so what I'm thinking you might want to do when you vote on the board goals each year you may also take a vote to make the change in the policy book um then you'll have it all done at once and we can just swap it out um because the only other alternative is to refer to a regulation that you don't have to vote on but I think if you're going to have to vote on the on adopting the goals anyway you might as well just do that one tweak while you're there so would that be a second motion or part of the same motion Kim I think it would be a second motion so you'd move to adopt the goal the board goals as presented and then a second motion would be to substitute the new goals for the goals in the policy number 020 and somehow will just have to remember to do that I I think that's a a good idea um board members have any uh sorry committee members have any thoughts on that why that why we might need to take that extra step bridet um I don't actually have a thought on that I'm happy to make a motion tonight if we need it uh just to to move this part forward but it does make sense to do it in in one Fell Swoop as Kim suggested um is just a simple part of changing our procedure okay that part doesn't need a motion don't believe um so I will uh accept that motion to amend the policy um 0200 to reflect the 23 24 school year goals may I have a second please second thank you Michelle uh any discussion all those in favor please signify by saying I I I motion passes thank you the next piece from the cab audit and I'm just going to bring it up so you can see the cab audit on the Zero series um talked about a policy they broke it down into um numbering update updates that were needed which we formally discussed um any mandated policies that were lacking and then recommended good practice policies um so I do want to note that in the audit policy 0521 for non-discrimination was noted remember again in March of 2019 that it was lacking um we have since made an update to that policy um and you will see that in on May 22nd 2019 that non-discrimination policy was put into effect so I just wanted to bring to your attention that even though the audit refers to it as a policy that was missing we have since made that update so there is oh go ahead cam I'm sorry I was gon say can you click on it because I was at the legislative update on Friday and I think that there's a new category in the non-discrimination list now um yeah up at the top so um I'm going to just um double check that so see the in the first paragraph the list of race color religion sex sexual orientation it's getting very long now um and there is some new definition language that the legislature passed for July one um so I think leave this as is but I'm just going to double check and make sure that this encompasses that new category it's a category about um transgender actually so we may have to tweak this one more time and probably will frequently with the frequency with which these change K so at this point in time we are not recommending a change but as the new legislation has come we might Circle back to this as a policy committee if we need to insert um another group to be represented in this non-discrimination um exactly any questions um for Kim or before we move on from here so code of ethics were that doing anything this was a non-discrimination policy isn't that under 05 you have here I don't I don't think so Terry if we're following the agenda there no she's a little bit further down yeah you're a little bit further down on the on the new policies okay oh I'm sorry I thought you had SC the Hat I'm sorry that's okay ter I'm the line just above that um the mandated policies lacking and just bringing to the board's attention since the audit that non-discrimination policy 0521 has been updated um and added as one of our board policies can I ask a general question please about um the the adoption of these policies and how frequently review them what is is there an expectation for what that cycle looks like like how how often and frequently we're supposed to review them I mean I should think that once we get through all of the series that you could do this once every few years because the presumption is that as statutes change like this one that just changed on July 1 that will go in you know in the intervening meeting and say gee there's been a legislative change this year you know in the policy committee we put on let's make this change and go ahead and tweak it um I think that the reason why this is so painstaking is because in addition to all of those things we hadn't done an audit in a long time and we changed all the numbers so I think that's what's making this a little bit hard so I would think like 3 to five years to do an overhaul audit but in the meantime there's going to be constant activity as legislation changes or as you know things that might arise like when we had coid and we convene the policy committee to make a series of intervening policies that we needed due to the emergency so um that's a long way of saying probably five years would do it but you're going to be amending them all the way through all the time okay thank you I just wanted to clarify that because obviously we have some policies that we went through in 2018 2019 so we're we're on track right and and Kate can I also offer something um just want to add on to um everything that Kim just said um I think it's important that the board is is assured that we're in compliance with all of the required policies and to Kim's Point legislation is always going to move um Force us to look at our policies um update policies were were appropriate and so the non-discrimination policy as an example if there's recent legislation U we're going that's going to oftentimes mean that we have to revisit some policies that may have already been approved um and require us to make some updates and then there may be some legislation that may require us to adopt a policy just as good practice and so because of these things there's always going to be opportunities for the board to go back and look back at their policies for updates and that's why there's always you know cape has required I'm sorry recommended policies every year but the important thing is that our required policies are in place um and that that the Board needs to be assur we're we're in good shape unless you hear something otherwise you Canim thank you Mr wlson thank you Kim thanks thanks K okay so next from the policy audit um and now I think uh Teresa on the part that you were looking I'm just going to highlight it on the agenda is the recommended good practice policies um so this was from the cave audit that said these are not legally required or mandated policies so they're not musthaves but they're kind of would be nice to consider um and so there was three different policies um that they suggested that we consider and they're all linked in here uh the recommended so the first one is Code of Ethics um and I will click on that in a moment the next one is commitment to religious neutrality and the third one is an equity and diversity policy and again we have added this policy in September 2019 um we did make a decision so that's the 0523 to update and add this policy so we're really talking about number one and number two here that are recommended good practice policies for this board to consider um so tonight what we'd like to do is to walk through them um see if there's any questions if there's any NE need for uh tweaking wording on them um the code of ethics policy is something that we feel should be considered by this uh group um and the second policy we can have a conversation about um whether or not adding adding it would make sense for us um so are there any questions before we move into the specifics of these additions um so the um the code of ethics policies as you can see here there's um this code of ethics is based on standards of leadership for members of the Board of Education and is recommended by the C board of directors so there are a series of um I believe it was 17 um 17 different recommendations uh for this group to consider and again these are all coming from C regarding um ethics uh specifically focused at Board of Education members so uh have folks had a chance to look at this information in advance of the meeting here this evening I know that it um came to us today so um I did not have an opportunity to read this through yet yeah me neither I mean I I got through some of the you know of the items but I didn't get this far down okay um one of the things that it it strikes me as I'm I'm watching this scroll is you know maybe this is a good place to have a conversation about where you guys engage in in kind of the push and pull about these recommendations um because you're going to want I think to have your own debate here and maybe suggest language but you also have your peers you know those who don't sit on this committee that you're going to make a recommendation out but you know you may want to leave time or invite them to a policy committee meeting I I think it's just Bears maybe thinking a little bit this this one I don't know that I think is all that complic but when we get to some of the stickier ones um I think that's a question of kind of where you want to have what space you want to have those conversations in yeah I agree I think it's a it's a good idea to include everyone at who sits at the board table these are very broad policies so do we have to pick them all or this is a recommendation this is recommended policy so we can we can structure it any way we want we don't even have to use the language they're using here necessarily if we don't want to you I think y if I remember correctly we we we kind of passed on one on this at one point because part of the the challenge here is that these are um you know the code of ethics is is kind of hard to interpret right like it it's it's not like it's this not going to create enforcable action at the board level um it's really just a set like a set of guidelines basically for the uh the board members I didn't mean to cut you off Kim sorry well the you know the other thing I'm I'm thinking you know you could vote as a whole group to make this a policy you also could tuck it under one of the um one of the other Provisions about board activity as a regulation um it just depends I think on on a larger conversation about do you want these to be your governing principles for how you deal with each other and how you deal at word facing you know it's the kind of conversation that typically have in that board orientation what that you know we now by law have to do but we've been doing anyway so it doesn't you're right it doesn't have to look like this um it doesn't even have to sit as a policy it could sit elsewhere or if you think that this is something that is sufficiently important you could elevate it very much to a prominent policy and engage the Fuller board in a discussion about it it's really the world's your oyster on this may ask may I ask a question thank you the city of Danbury has an adopted Ed ethics policy wouldn't we automatically be covered under the ethics policy of the city and an Ethics Review Committee I don't think so I think you're a separate entity so I don't think that you you know you're an individualized entity so I don't think that you would be covered by the board um by the city policy um you know we are all city employees to some extent and that's a larger conversation about kind of entities um but I don't think it would necessarily govern your behavior now what it make sense to adopt the policy of the city as the policy of the Board of Ed so that we are you know linked that's a that's an interesting thought yeah I mean the the Board of Ed is we we are agents of the state um not the city so I think that's why this this conversation is happening um that would be an interesting idea though maybe what we could do is compare what's in front of us from C from their recommendation to uh what the city has in its uh its policy and sort of you know see what what of that makes sense for us to to bring here to the board level anyone else have thoughts on that I'm looking to just really kind of read it through um before you know I'm ready to any discussion that you're you know looking to have I'm willing you know to get together um but I really just want to kind of go through the 17 points like I'm frozen on the first six I'm hoping somebody will scroll down but yeah so whatever you think Kate on that I just want to have a chance after this meeting to really go through and and read them through so Kim in terms of a like the protocol for something like this if we wanted to bring this to a full board conversation um would we make a recommendation out of this committee to do that or how how would we I think you certainly could do that the other thing you could do is you could hold your regularly scheduled policy committee meeting and invite your remainder of your colleagues to come to that committee meeting where you can as as members of this committee you all can kind of have the debate and then you can recognize um members of who are not members of the committee to speak at the end um to comment but it that might be because remember if you take this to a board and have this push poll it's all in a regularly publicized board meeting so it's very open um and it may or may not be the form it may be the form you want then and that's another kind of decision Point Reflection Point for you um sorry go ahead Kelly I was just gonna say um this is not something that needs immediate action or decision um either as this remember is just recommended policy it's not something that is a musthave um so there is time uh if this group would like to Circle back to it at the next committee meeting um and invite others or bring it to the full board for discussion I'm I'm inclined to to take your advice that this be uh uh table to another committee meeting and bring in the invite additional board members to attend so that there's an opportunity at the end of that meeting for them to weigh in on it um but I would like to hear from the other members of the committee to see if that aligns with what you're thinking Bridget um I agree Kate wholeheartedly I think uh having everybody in the same room at the same time uh would make a lot more sense but at the same time um I'd love to have a look at what other districts similar in size to us have adopted uh I understand that these are all points that cave thinks are important and and I agree each one is is individually um important but i' I'd like to see what other what other people are doing um as concerns their ethics policies and I'd like to see a comparison against the city policy as well so maybe if we have the opportunity to review this at another meeting um with the full intention that that maybe that's the sole item that we are discussing we can have a little bit of a comparison in the materials that are sent to us in advance so that it furthers the discussion G I agree with bridgid you mean yes okay um micheller or Julie did you want to weigh in I agree sounds good thank you me too I think this is a good idea okay all right so we're going to move forward and table that one for now thank you kellyc um gladus did you have something yeah uh is it is it okay now for me to speak since all the committee members we've heard from all the committee members yes okay uh I think it's a a great idea uh we're talking about um 17 items that are listed and I think in order for everyone to really understand those 17 and out of those 17 we might pick five that is irrelevant right now okay uh and then when you get before the full board or if you bring this that suggestion from the committee it might be totally different five uh ones that they want to look at so to me to have the full board uh participate in this it is worth doing uh out of those 17 which one that we think is more valuable as a board member and use that and I go back to uh when Rachel used to do the policies and how you had to change over and sometime we had to make U redo policy we sit this group sit down and decided if we had 10 which one of those five that we thought that was Ring to the board right now and I think that's to me a better way of doing it because I know that that and it's my fault that I haven't had chance to really look and see which one would be more important to me in the upcoming year yeah thank you guys so we're looking to maybe also uh prioritize certain points rather than just doing a blanket adoption Terry did you have your hand up again yes uh I like what glattus recommended I think it cuts to the chase of deciding what we feel is uh what would be useful for us as opposed to uh the total C package okay thank you all K did you want to continue sure um there's one other um recommended policy for consideration um under this zero series um this uh is commitment to religious neutrality or other words uh prayer in the schools and uh there are two versions that c has put out to consider so this one being version one um and you would pick one or the other so version one which is shorter and on the top half of the page versus version two which is a little bit more explicit it on the bottom half of the page um and essentially speaks to um uh not um imposing religious beliefs on students in the school setting um but providing uh time and space uh for students um to engage in their own personal religious beliefs uh during the school day um so I will just allow a minute to read through um and then Kim and I can talk through uh some of our recommendations regarding this Kell can you make that just a little bit bigger for these old eyes please absolutely can we all have those eyes goddess is that better yes I apologize for Miss caneta if you're if you would like Kim and I to speak at all to this let us know or if you want to answer questions first I have a quick question or I just want to make sure everybody has had a chance to read it real quick okay go ahead Julie um well this cover like um I remember that we have an issue last year regarding a carpin which is religious what this cover what this policy will cover yeah so I I think that raises a super interesting point that I think is this is your first chance to kind of explore this idea so you you can't adopt a policy that is that is in violation of the law right so it just is a void policy if you do that and it essentially drops out of your book this policy kind of begs the question because like with the car carpin right I I remember that it's a little bit of PTSD but I remember that um we always have to follow the law about that and so that means whether you've decided to affirmatively adopt this policy or not um so you know and one of the things that Kelly and I have talked about is um if this is a policy that is you know near and dear to your heart and you want to make an affirmative expression of supporting this kind of speech by all means do it um but it doesn't change the fact that if we run into a system a situation like we did we still have to do what we did which was to acknowledge and create space for that kind of um religious expression um because that's the law and so you'll see at various points in the policy there's going to be that tension of do you want to just reiterate and sometimes it's dangerous when you just reiterate because because sometimes you miss something um but do you want to just reiterate what already exists um because it's something that's important to you and you want to make an affirmative expression about it or do you want to say you know what with this kind of a situation if it comes up we don't need to look and see if we have a policy because we have to follow the law thank you you gave me a lot to think about this yeah I mean you can make too many policies right I know I mean we're still bound we're still bound uh by federal law right so I think that's y the end all this was one we we discussed that um you know and again defer to the recommendation of the policy committee but this is very clear in law um of what schools need to do and uh do not need to do so this is a policy again I think Kim said it best if you want to reaffirm your beliefs here you certainly can add this in um but it is certainly not a necessary policy as we would default to the law Perry then why are they recommending it they're under the same laws too why are they recommending it because they're cave because they're cave yeah that's a good one that's because they're cave oh my god well sometimes when these questions come forward from different districts and they're looking for clarity for things that that's Cab's position right they're there to try to like paral all of these kinds of questions and bring them forward and have an answer so that if it comes up for another District they can come the cave and say what do you what should we do here so and just to give the larger perspective there are probably across this policy audit close to 100 um good practice policies for this board to consider so um just to put it in perspective of the number of different policies that um you know we will walk through not all at once but short you know slowly uh to consider I think we need to um you know keep that in mind as we're making decisions on which ones we feel very strongly about need to be included um and those that we feel are already covered um by state law and for everyone you have you may need to amend says the lawyer thank you so with that said uh Comm members um just wondering where you land on this Harry I had a choose I like version two because it's a little bit more explicit what are you what do you I mean in in reflecting on what um you know Kim has told us about that um I mean if we're gonna do anything I would go version two but if we're not if we don't need to you know I'm on the fence on this you don't feel strongly one way or the other no no it's just articulating like she said it was already in the law um and if we want to put in the policy book that's another CH that's a choice that we got to decide okay other committee members Bridget um I do think that we should have this policy but um I'm more a fan of version one so uh you know I I I'm not terribly strong that has to be version one but I think that um being too explicit might be more problematic for us down the road I'd rather have a short concise one that um we can put up on uh you know on the the district website if we need to and variety of different places uh this is a hot button topic and having something policy-wise to fall back on so that we can um make sure that uh our community understands where the board of EDS sits um I think it's important so I do think we should have we should be adopting either version one or version two as a recommended um adoption tonight and recommend for the full board um I however um am more a fan of version one Michelle or Julie H I completely agree with Bridget like version one is is this a public policy I mean people start looking for things so if we're going to be I mean all in on I then there less information I mean the shorter information and concise is pretty good you Michelle um I'm not I really don't have too strong of an opinion right now um either way so you know if we don't have to um again I think that was the first option right the recommendation um I don't I don't I think I'm fine if we don't adopt this um but if you know I'll go with the committee the other thing you me I was just going to say you may also think about kind of the end game so you might devote a full board meeting among your colleagues having a conversation about this the only line that bother me in one is this POC supersedes any other board policy that might be inconsistent with it I don't know I mean I just it's almost like something that we don't have to necessarily adopt and then kind of supersede I don't know so whatever anyone else is thinking I'm good with going with what the board you know if you want to send it to the whole board and have them look at it and fine with whatever the um I I think you know I I kind of agree with what uh Bridget is saying and that it's nice to have something in writing to be able to point to um and if I'm reading correctly that version one really just basically says we're applying the law uh within our own districts the way that you know the way that it's interpreted at a federal level um so I think that makes a certain amount of sense to to use and the reason for that is even though I recognize Terry that at the bottom it's a little bit more explicit about specific activities um I think part of what we do in policy work is adopting a very general policy and then um leaving it to Administration to figure out how to administer that policy and what that looks like so I'm reluctant to get into specifics of you know what what the interpretation would look like because I'm not an educator in the classroom or an administrator who's in charge of those those classrooms um I you know it seems like we're a little bit split on this one um okay if people want the basic one I have no problem with that I I I don't like that this policy supersedes any other board policy that might be inconsistent with it that I think is just too broad we still gonna have to comply with the law and if we have not if we are inconsistent with any um policy we should I mean it co we get cover under this line no I don't like it KY were you gon to say something I was going to say um if there is a policy that is inconsistent with current law which this if you go with version one it's just um reiterating the current law um you do it would supersede it so the so I think you would be okay with removing that line if it is something that this group is not comfortable with so you could have your policy to just just read this part um you know a version you know version one and strike out the policy supersedes um as we would be required to do that if there is something in policy that's inconsistent with law you have to defer defer to the law and update the policy that makes sense perfect that makes sense um I guess I I would I'm looking for a motion to then adopt version one minus that line that I had the same thought that you did Kelly um go ahead K did you have something else I so move okay thank you so much second by Bridget any other discussion glad us uh we've heard from committee members did you want to weigh in on this well you already accept the motion I I first I agree with version one uh my question would come if uh at some point uh if there had to be an addition could we as a board add an addition to that to end of the number one for a specific circumstance or yes a specific circumstances or if something might come up we don't know that we will be able to go back and add it to number one if not then we move on um I mean think like with any of our policies like if something comes up that prompts a review of that policy there's no maybe to to pull that policy and review and see maybe we need to you know maybe I I can't think of something right now because I haven't really digest the whole full thing but I did read version one and version two and I'm more in favor of version one okay so thank you okay um so we have a motion on the floor we have a second um is there any other discussion on this before we uh put it to a vote okay so this vote is to make a recommendation to the board for adoption of version one of the non-discrimination commitment to religious neutrality policy minus that one line so this policy supersedes any other board policy that may be inconsistent with it we're going to strike that line that's the motion on the table all those in favor please signify by saying I please I I any opposed any extensions motion passes all right what are we up to next now next is just a preview of what is coming up because I know there's a lot of uh information so what I did here is just for series two is a preview of the next policy meeting um in the agenda is the six current 2000 Seri policy um that are approved um by the board um and then here I'm just going to click again on the c um recommended policy changes the reason why we're going from the zero series to the 2,000 series is the 1,000 were already um updated um and in compliance with the cave audit review um so going just sequentially me one second I thought we were told to review this that's why so this is just a review in preparation for the for the next meeting um so uh there will be three good practice policies um and we will make sure to get you an agenda I believe our next meeting is on the 15th we'll get you an agenda well in advance so you can spend time um reviewing these good practice policies right here there are three that we'll be discussing whether or not we should um adopt them for consideration um and so the uh 2000 series are um all administrative policies um so that would be the next steps of this board or I'm sorry of the policy committee I should say so Kelly I do know that under there there's a [Music] um number five is the code of ethics um and I'm wondering how much of that uh might overlap with the code of ethics under the recommended good practice policies there are definitely there are definitely some uh overlap uh so that is something um we will if you would like put back on the agenda the 0050 um policy which was the ethics we looked at tonight and we can compare it to the other the 2300 uh policy and that might help to make some decisions on whether or not you want to adopt the good practice policy which again it's not required it's just recommended for consideration Kelly is the the code of ethics in the 2000 series though is about behavior of administration the code of ethics in the board section is about code of ethics governing the board members right oh okay if you look at the code of ethics though the language in that policy Kim does specify board members and superintendence interesting yeah I hope they don't conflict so it I mean and we can discuss maybe it makes sense to go through the all the 2000 series and the reason why I'm linking the board approv policies with the dates is so that you get a general sense of the series that we're looking at because I think it's important when you're making um you know adding the recommended policies or for consideration uh to have context about the other similar policies that are in that series not for nothing that was 24 years ago wow yeah it may be a discussion as well um you know some of these um we might want to make some slight tweaks and changes to to wording um you will see that the c um you know you'll see for example the concepts and roles in administration is appropriate as written based on cab policy and it does require recodification um you're going to see that consistently throughout all of ours even though cab has organized our website according to their codes I know that was a question earlier we never made a formal recommendation as a board by series to recode um some of the new policies were coded uh that way but not all the old ones so I just think it's important we bring that um bring that up to date as we go through um but you will see that some of them such as administrative staff organization even though they're saying that the policy is appropriate it's not based on the cave model so we may want to look at the cave model and see if there's any um you know any consideration the other option is you could also just bring it to the full board being that one of the criticisms in the policy is we haven't looked at this in 24 years um you know so even if we're keeping things that still make sense today without any tweaks or changes we may want to you know re revote on it not just the numbering but also on the content of the policy um so that would be discussion which is why I think moving slowly series by series um you know throughout this makes sense and certainly if we need more than one meeting to discuss for example the 2000 series um you know we can we can do so I I like the order of these because I think it's helpful when you you know you're sort of thinking about roles and responsibilities of of you as board members with that original code of ethics we just looked at and now you're thinking about kind of roles and responsibilities of the administrators and and the kind of nuts and bolts people on the ground and so it's kind of a good way to be thinking about all those things that they talk to you about when you're a new board member and you do the trainings and the lighthouse training is how do those two groups kind of intersect so I like the order of these is also I think good kri go ahead um the the book I got I assume was from what's published online are is this indicating that we technically have not recodified it so c yeah if I could cab organized things according to their their um you know series by zero series 1,2000 um but what they are recommending in this audit is if we haven't made an update since the the K bought it so in in this case we have not to any of these policies we technically have not made a motion uh through the board to renum the series oh okay so we're looking to do that for the zero Series this evening correct that is correct so the zero series I'm just going to scroll back for a minute I apologize for the scroll um what you will see on the Zero series when we looked at the agenda um just scroll back up for a second um you had two policies that were adopted uh the last two after the audit so the 2019 policies were numbered correctly because they were adopted after the audit um we've now U made a motion tonight for the 200 um 0200 um that was updating the board goals so that with the vote will be renumbered and that is why we recommended for the zero series The Mission and belief which has not been looked at since prior to the audit we need to make a formal recommendation to rumber um and and buy series uh with policies that haven't been updated since the audit um that will be consistent across each series we'll need to do that oh my God I can't believe this was a done um a very simple um simple fix we can do as we go by series um if you would like to go through and go through every series and just renumber and agree in one vote vot that we're reing the following policies by series that's another option we we could do that um we had just say said that we were going to move through by series but it will take a motion to renumber certain policies in each series and this is excuse me sorry Terry uh this is a recommendation to the board that we're we're making correct like to rumber the the series that is correct okay so what we have published online t teally was not approved by the board only bits and pieces so the the actual policy I just want to be clear the actual policy is the policy approved by the board the numbering system is aligned with the cave system which still needs the vote um so you will see um here for example the Z the four zeros um policy which is um Mission and belief statement um C it's the policy of as approved by the board in 2018 um cable lined it with their numbering system which would be the zero series or four zeros but it was formerly in our book as 88-101 so we are just looking to align nothing was posted online that was not approved by the board but the actual organization by by series was reorganized by cab during the audit and we do need to make those formal recommendations and updates um I see a problem with the dates that for if you're going to um [Music] approve uh new numbers technically the like you have here um those old numbers um technically what where is it wouldn't you have to say that it was updated now these each policy that has that we're going to update as a group we're gonna have to show that it was revised it in November of 2023 so you're going to write go ahead go ahead cam you're on mute I think h ly what I would do is if you make a Content change I would reflect that as the date I look at the crosswalk and the changing of numbers as what there's an old term called scriveners error and we use it in contract negotiations too when you have to rumber the paragraphs or re just to make to clean it up so I I don't think I wouldn't make the change the date of the change reflect the number change I would have the date of the change reflect the content change if that's what you're doing or the affirmation of the content boy oh boy whoever handled this I'm sorry this is all messed up this is I mean I'm glad we're doing it I'm glad we're doing it but you're technically talking about two different books technically that's the old numbering and the new numbering uh and what's showed I'm glad we're doing this that's all I can say I think it's it's needed um what we're trying to do is really marry the old book and the new book so that when we talk about it it's in one cohesive system that's aligned with cave um absolutely it did take Kim and I quite a bit of time and I I thank Kate for joining us in a lot of those conversations um to kind of figure out what it was we needed to do to to advance that policy audit recommendations forward because of coid it did sit for a little bit of time um but we have made a bunch of advancements in fact I'm proud to say that all of our mandated policies have been up updated they're no longer lacking so we're really talking about do we want to make you know smaller revisions to existing policies and are there any good practice policies again not required but might be nice that we want to consider for addition so that's really the the as we go through the series the work that we'll be doing so really what we're doing is we're double-checking the crosswalk of the numbers as we go through each series correct now who has the book for the old numbering where is that I believe it's in the superintendent's office I think Cara has it um we asked that it be retained in a safe place because that's the only original okay thank you good news is by the end of this though we'll have went through everything have it um you know you'll have your own copies um but we'll also have it posted online as well so I think we'll be confident to say we've you know systematized everything in a cohesive manner right did we find out what package we have with C yes do you want to speak to that Kim sorry um we did um we did get an update um directly from cab and um what they said was that we had completed paying for the audit piece of it and there is a Kelly remind me the number I want to say it's like $1,700 a year or something for the monitoring and housing it on is that right yes approximate I can't remember 17 or 1750 I can check in one second um so so we've paid for the overhaul piece and that's what we're double-checking and there's a constant annual fee for the monitoring or like housing it on their server basically was this the um package that uh guarantees a hard copy for each board member okay thank you uh even that we're moving along in this work I look forward to clearing things up so that that hard hard copy will be as accurate as possible um I believe we still need a motion now then to um make a recommendation to the board for the renumbering of um what will become policy 000000 zero uh Mission and belief statements um which was I'm sorry lost my spot here formerly 88-101 um so is there a motion uh to make a recommendation thank you Terry may have a second for that I'll second Thank You Bridget uh any discussion on that renumbering okay I'll try your minds all those in favor please signify by saying I I hi I any oppos any absts all right motion carries so we will make make that recommendation to the board for the ring of uh former policy -101 Mission goals and objectives yeah Kelly I'm thinking what might make sense is to put a Google folder that we can all share that's just got notes from each of these because it's going to get really tricky making sure we Circle back on everything so maybe we can set up just a Google folder I mean that's a public document so just know that that if we don't want to put any editorializing in there but it might be just as simple as like you know this motion's going to the board or we get a circle back on this um then we have a living breathing document we can all access till the power gets shut off that's a great idea I can arrange that just with the actions that we did I'll let you guys keep the notes as far as who made the motion and seconded but we can keep track of where we need to Circle back I think that's a great idea Kim thank you both the other last uh question I know we're going to look in the 2000 series next time at the three you know uh good practice policies um but as you saw the vast majority of the policies were adopted in 1999 um so my question for this committee is would we also like to take time to go through the existing policies as written in the 2000 series I think that's appropriate so the way 24 years is a long time yeah so what I will do is um link the um current approved policy that we have for the six policies um we'll then put the C recommended policy if it's not an alignment just for our consideration um and then um for the uh three good practice policies we'll also link the cave recommendations again for our consideration um we'll try to get that out to you guys because I know it'll be about nine different ones to review within the next couple of days so that way you'll have um you know a large amount of time to review them prior we're a little bit more in a Groove now like I think we kind of get going through the first one has kind of helped I already drafted the next you gotta close all those tabs because it's giving me a headache looking at all the tabs across the top of your screen may I ask one more question about this process um so for the 2000 series for example we're g to go through each of these policies and they're you know some of them are 24 years old if we don't make adjustments to the policies though the adoption date Remains the Same is that correct okay I mean you can write whatever you want we could also put a tag under the adoption date that says reviewed and affirmed with a date you know that way you know I think that's helpful to have like an actual something in the written in the book that we can refer back to and I think we should just be consistent you know so if we're going to do that throughout each one of the series we you know let's just pick what system we're going to do to say if we decide the review and affirm then we just do that so that we re remember as we go through um because even some of the policies we reviewed tonight while still in accordance and aligned with cab um you know some of them were uh you know are now four or five years old already so if we want to just say reaffirm we certainly can do that um so can talk about that I think that's a good idea in terms of the ones that we discussed this evening um that being the um the zero Series so those policies were adopted 2018 and we are um not reviewing we're not reviewing those policies at this point right we're just looking at the uh the recommended sorry the uh recommended good practice policies were the ones that we looked at this evening so um eventually we will Circle back around and look at those and reaffirm them but we're not doing that this evening just to be clear that is correct that was not part of the agenda for this evening do you want to add them to to next time's agenda or just move forward with the 2000 series I think we should move forward with the 2000 series given the dates there I think we have some leeway here and there's nothing urgent that needs to be adjusted or reviewed so okay any questions or uh concerns from committee members or from non-committee Members all right I will look for a motion to I did want to make I'm sorry Kate I I did wan to no no problem at all I was just waiting for an opportunity to jump in um I did want to just say quickly um so I I did speak with Tom about the question about um the motion for the change from the old numbers to the new numbers and Tom is recommending that we have all of the numbers in one table and so all of the old numbers which we can easily do we can take all of the numbers from the audit put those on the left-and side they've can been converted to the new number it's all in one place and then we can get a motion from the board and they can all be adopted at one time um and so and and I I don't want to quot quote him incorrectly um he said it's not necessarily a legal issue but it is kind of good practice and you know he's recommending that it is done um so he does recommend that it's done um but just for efficiency sake if nothing else it's clearer a table with all of the changes and Rec the changes that have been made and then get a motion from the board in one in one move and then this way any other moves that take take place there on out the board has already adopted them and it's a non-issue okay so given that I hope everyone heard me there yes sir okay given that feedback and and that's reiterating what you were saying before Kim about this um we've now made this recommendation for the reling the ruming of uh policy z0000 z um do we want to let that one pass through and then just do handle the remaining ones on a single chart okay I I'm I'm good I'm good either way I I just know it could take a couple of years for us to get to the point to go through every every series and um and so that that's why I called him quickly and stepped off of line so how you want to handle a zero series is certainly up to the committee um but for efficiency sake we can come back and put together chart a conversion chart so everyone can see it in one place um and so we can add the zero series afterwards or we can pause and have it ready for the next have them all ready for the next meeting I just what I just thought it was important to provide that update before we got off the line thank you and and I appreciate you making that call um so the zero the the ring for the uh the mission goals and objectives policy is the recommendation's been made already um in terms of putting together a chart with those conversions um what when would when would uh when would we be able to see that happen I understand there's going to be some work involved in that so it is actually outlined in the if we can just take the charts from the cave audit um and by series every single policy um the old number and the new cave number is listed um so we can use that information to make a motion to the board so we can put that together for the next um the next meeting that'd be wonderful thank you all right um anything else before we go that's it for Me Kate no last minute no more last minute recommendations sorry about that that was a good one so thank you gladus did you have anything no okay all right uh I'm looking for a motion to adjourn then please motion to adjourn Thank You Bridget second Teresa second all those in favor please signify by saying I I I I all right any opposed no OB

lakes. K12 n. us look for the word referendum click on it it will take you to our referendum informational page if you look for tax calculator which will be on the left hand side of that page click on tax calculator and I want you to be able to see what this referendum will cost you and your family by going to that tax calculator putting in the assessed valuation of your home and I must stress the assessed valuation of your home hit enter or return and it will calculate what you will pay a month and what you will pay for a full year the average the average cost to you the homeowner and the business owner in Lake Station will be giving up a pizza one time a month I happen to favor JJ's Pizza it's hard for me to give that up but to invest in our students and to invest in our schools I'm willing to give up one JJ's Pizza a month and take that that money and invest it in our schools and I truly hope you will see it that way as an investment in our children and investment in our future for the sake of our school district and our community we must invest in our children the future I'll get off my soapbox here but if you do have questions please give me a call I'll be happy to answer your questions I'll be happy to sit down with you and talk with you and my last point on Thursday November 2nd at 6: PM there will be an informational meeting here at Edison Junior Senior High School where we will share information with you answer your questions and we will be able to go through a sample tax bill where our community members can see EX exactly where that average increase of 46.3 1% is what it means is the school will be getting on average 46.3 one% more property tax money towards our school that meeting is Thursday November 2nd at 6: PM please come it will be an hour meeting but it will be loaded with information factual information to help you make the best decision for you for your family your children your grandchildren our future of Lake Station thank you Mr President

welcome USD 264 patrons staff community members stakeholders and students I'm excited to bring to you our Clear Water Clarity volume 4 uh this is the fourth edition of information that we're putting out to just help uh with our strategic plan of providing consistent and relevant communication so as always we always start with looking at the Strategic plan and kind of our process for what we're doing uh always at the beginning we're always going to talk about the why which is our strategic plan so as we talk about it today it's really providing consistent relevant communication uh the second ring out is what is it that we're actually doing to help achieve that strategic plan and then further as we get down into the uh Parts is how are we doing these to accomplish those goals So today we're really going to focus on the what and within strategic plan number two is Implement student centered whole child programming so that's our second goal within the Strategic plan and the focus of this months is to talk about how the class of 2028 which is our current eighth graders uh this year that their graduation requirements are going to change uh for us to be able to think about what we currently already have in place at Clearwater and clear waterer High uh we are very fortunate to have all of the required classes already on our uh roster for classes that students can take a little bit of it will be to kind of talk about which areas are going to impact our students as the eighth graders roll into next year so uh overall the number of requirements are going to stay the same that hasn't changed it's just how are they categorizing and which ones are they going to change so first off three and a half uh credits of ela plus a half credit of communications which we use speech um three units of history and government one credit of Fine Art those are all still the same three units of math which is still the same and three units of science uh still the same name uh one unit of stem electives which could be computer science advanced math Advanced science robotics Advanced CT or advanced technology we'll talk about that a little bit more that's going to be new uh and then the employability and life skills that you can see here at the bottom of this fact sheet uh we already have the physical Ed in the health we also offer financial literacy as an elective but it'll now become a requirement for the class of 2028 and then four and a half units of electives driven by IPS planning we'll talk about that too in the following slide this was adopted by the Kansas uh State Board of Education and approved uh to go into effect so uh our counselors at the high school are already preparing uh for what this is going to take and and be working with um the class of 2028 in the spring this does not affect any student that's a current freshman through senior this would only be for the eth graders and on down so there'll be a grandfathered in uh process one of the other pieces that is involved in this process that we need to make sure every everyone's aware of is that upon graduation all students must have two postsecondary assets what are postsecondary assets um those are things such as having a 90% attendance rate that would be considered a post-secondary asset um or having an internship where they go work at another job or an externship or if they achieve a certificate in a um field such as welding or HVAC um those are all considered postsecondary assets there is a large breadth of those uh that are available for students but what they're saying is beyond taking the classes there's going to be two other things um that they're going to be required to take it can also be having nine college credit hours it could be getting a three or a four on their state assessment um the high school staff is going to be working with tracking this through a portfolio um that will be on their attendance graduation sheet so students will be able to pay attention when they collect those postsecondary assets the second thing is a financial literacy class class again as I stated this is already offered as an elective at Clearwater High School it'll start to be required and it'll be required either in the students junior senior year the staff at the high school feel that's the best time for students to get that financial literacy before they're on their own and the Really the focus is to prepare them to be a financially responsible citizen uh as they leave uh to start their adult life and then the last thing to really think about is the IPS and stem electives and so um the students are going to be able to within their IPs take an assessment to just show them where their uh passions are and these assessments are like uh skills-based and passion-based uh from there it'll help them develop an individual plan of study and that's what IPS stands for that individual plan of study will help them focus on Career Pathways that will give them exposure to those skills that they will need uh for their postsecondary life sometimes that's looking at education as a pathway um uh FCCLA classes um welding and a classes that we offer or business and graphic design courses so we are lucky to be able to have uh a majority of those classes offered for students and then also students must have one stem course so classes such as robotics Project Lead the Way uh biom meds or an advanced CTE class or advanced math class uh will count towards that uh stem course so those are going to be some of the new things that um if you have had a student in high school before and are getting ready to have another one at the class of 2028 or Beyond um those will be some things that as you're working with your student towards your graduation you'll understand just the slight differences um that they will have if you have if your first student graduating from high school will be 2028 or Beyond then probably it's going to be something a little different than when you were in high school some of these other uh requirements that are going to help us uh fulfill some of those postsecondary needs that not only does our state economy have but the US economy have as well so again as we always continue to focus on being the one uh we understand that um we are moving into a society where sometimes um the opportunity to not treat people nicely on social media or be disrespectful is more of the norm uh these days than it needs to be and so we're going to continue to focus to make sure um as a school district our staff and our students are making sure they are they're going to be a positive light for someone uh every day and hopefully we can continue to fill that mission of one family uh one team and one District in in unifying ourselves to be the best that we can be the last little piece of information I want to provide in this update is on November 13th prior to our regularly scheduled board meeting we have an open enrollment policy hearing um this hearing is requirement based on a new law that's going to take effect in July 1 of 2024 it was actually passed last legislative session uh in where there will be no more District boundaries to determine attendance uh all districts will be have an open enrollment meaning students will be able to apply uh to go to school somewhere if they do not live within that District uh our policy hearing that we are going to have on November 13th is really going to look at language to determine uh what non-resident students must maintain uh to continue uh enrollment at USD 264 things such as attendance discipline and grades are things that can be taken into consideration for students to uh maintain that in the spring the board will begin working through what are the capacities that we have at each building in each grade level and then starting in June 1 we'll post those capacity uh limits and take out of District applications at that point in time and then in July uh of 2024 there will be a random drawing for students to fill the capacity slots that we have if we have any and those students will then be u considered non-resident students they'll be able to attend USD 264 but they must maintain um this the language Within the hearing that we're going to have in November so just letting you know that that's coming up and we'll be determining some of that policy language so as always here's my contact information and we look forward to hearing from everyone uh we have had a couple of community listening tours we have uh coffee with the soup uh the first Wednesday of every month um so pay attention to our social media uh apps on Facebook and Instagram to just get the most upto-date information where if you have some uh information to share about our glows or grows those are things that we're doing well or things we could do better um please um attend those and give us your feedback or at any time you can contact me uh via email or my office phone and we will set up a time to be able to meet so thank you and have a great month

[Music] up [Music] a [Music] [Applause] [Music] o [Music] hello and welcome to week four or five of the OverWatch Esports five uh is it five yeah I guess it is five uh and it's Bluffton versus North vill probably butchering that name a little bit so uh we're just waiting here for the matches start up just waiting for them to start looks like they're preparing to attack well well this is capture yeah to a tiring day for me me it was weird I slept all day so how' you like the snow outside it was okay it was cold ever seen snow on Halloween before uh Yes actually it was 2016 I remember that day very vividly do you though yes I do actually okay it was very cold out that Halloween my Lord that was like the cleanest thing I've ever done by the way just scouted us out I believe r one dead they have PR now why are you standing there they can't they have no that's an oh nice still here oh nice mine nice I see a blit I see a blit right now hey I could use a b of healing ow Hey yo uh never mind I'm good I'm good don't die don't die oh I'm close him oh crap I'm going to die to MOA oh he's dead MO not going to kill me anymore what like shot her in the side of attack the D Point all right all right all right ow pick no no test test I'm fine I'm fine everything's okay they have Widow now oh now I'm going to be dead Widow Dead Oh their junkrat's lagging their junkrat's lagging the same wi gr GR gr I'm the only one with one kill I'm so sad oh attack the point wait what I could have reil you without one kill monster popular there a of perspective much of rework to him they are sending barbs and Jon to left Tower I'll be there in two minutes guys don't worry about it complet workk have Fun's going that way no they don't yes they y keep out there bully they're just bullying the Reinhardt no they just all Focus Reinhardt yeah which I guess works but it's not the best oh my Lord this now right there could the cars can the cars kill you absolutely cuz they the Border if you leave if it's going to hit you it's going to pretty much just leave and you instantly get killed yeah mer down playing Anna Yeah Anna is a really fun character to play yeah and I will usually play her from time to time in different custom games yeah I would say the favorite time I've ever played Anna is in no cooldown abilities or gun game yeah no cuz the leek Dart doesn't really work CU they reor they reworked that the Sleep Dart isn't infinite now be fair it would kind of been broken if it was well it was before CU you could just keep him asleep yeah it looks like the uh Genji does go down so that's unfortunate yeah they're still doing really they're still doing really well yeah it looks like they have another support Mira or not probably pronounce that wrong it's actually one of my favorite supports to play yeah MOA this is a battle support it's like yeah I can heal but I can also do a lot of DPS at the same set time yeah now to fill up her healing don't you have to like take Health from there take a certain amount of tick damage from or you could just wait yeah it's not always no nobody wants to wait though unless you're in a sticky situation looks like hampter is just rushing in camping the spawn again make sure none of them get to the point so they can't reclaim it yeah it does get the enemy on doing really well right now oh and they got Arisa which the rework actually she's a little bit better strong that is two Z okay there really fine plays by the G team I wonder who got play of the game I think it was ham yeah y yep it was hamster let's see was it down no oh was it was just yeah it was just stability yeah it was just yeah oh was that kind of weird that let play of the game yeah yeah that was a pretty fun match well let already see me yawning I'm really tired isn't there I got no good dad jokes today either so yeah can't find it there it is looks like they're in their second game looks like there's hampur again Genji and the two supports as last time so here's a funny one why does Cinderella run away why does Cinderella so bad at soccer why cuz she kepts run away from the ball I was pretty good yep here is the is it escort yeah this is escort push not escort push and escort's nearly the same as thing though pretty much just one's a one's a I can't say it's a car cuz it's really it a hovercraft okay hcra one's a hovercraft one's a robot at least not B to the Future hover a board oh my gosh yeah no kidding those things would be so complicated to ride oh looks like they're defending it first yeah looks like the match has started and this either way to win is get it all the way to the end or get it the F yeah looks like they have a diva as long as junk yeah it looks like the Genji just counted most of the diva shots to the junkrat which you don't really ever want to see when you're junkrat next to div Diva cuz that can that can mess you up a lot it looks like the cam spawn again which is it's a good method but it's it's risky yeah it's risky but it's a good method for them it seems like it works out so there's no complaining about it it does get the assist diva is just not getting any chances oh I wouldn't either yeah oh there goes Diva looks like they have one sniper support on the back just sitting and waiting it's really all she could do cuz Anna is not really a closeup and personal character she's more a ranged character yeah does let the enemy p and uh lost to the two DPSS in the back Hest not Hest not a DPS no she's a Healer yeah she got the support but she didn't get the kill on it yes she did she thought was the support nope the enemy hamers now went the hamst PO the hamster's just trying to get it but it's not really working out she does get two emblems which is elimination looks like the ham and uh Genji is just camping spawn again that hamster is just really trying to get the yeah it does look like ginja has Al I don't think he's going to pop it anytime soon cuz there there wouldn't be a reason to pop it out right now CU they're not out out of Spawn unless he pops out on hamster which he could do that and take a way a lot of his health but it wouldn't matter now the uh the support snipers I can't remember her name to save my life Anna Yeah Anna Buffs to the DPS is in the back which I should say DPS is because it's DPS we got Eli cornering May and putting May he's just cornering everybody I don't think they would allowed to do damage when they were in spawn nope well you can just the healing be reflective damage yeah looks at the Greninja figured that out yeah that was cuz his deflect can damage them but with his deflect it when you're deflecting it to people in spawn the the healing that you get when you're in spawn c yeah but he got the kill off it's really weird looks like they had chosen May that is see if Eli will pin her in a corner again no but does look like Eli nearly got froze which is kind of scary yeah especially so close to spawn cuz he could easily just get teamed up on just in case it's get any damage all they got to do is rush back a little bit and then they actually might they actually might end up winning this first point too unless unless they can get unless the team can get a bit further and keep them from getting any farther cuz right now they only have um 87 M right now which isn't a lot but you still want win a game with that and then on the final 5 seconds I did not see it happening yeah unless you want to overtime sweep the team even with overtime this still probably not going to get it oh there is no overtime never mind no cuz none of them was on payload yeah I don't know why I was think there was going to be overtime right now they're escort now they're pushing all right this should be funny you look at at more jokes yeah what do you call a well balanced horse what stable what do you call an angry carrot what esteemed vegetable what I think he's actually pretty good what do po Bears keep the money what where do polar bears keep the money where snow Banks okay it won't it really won't take much for them to beat the 87 m not 8787 M what do you call a pile of cats what a me oh looks they get ready to push looks like they're starting yeah they already that was quick did they yeah they pushed it further that was yeah you see what you see what I mean that was going to be quick it really it doesn't take much when it's like that all all you got to do is just the other team just has to make sure there's one person on it so they can't push but I'm actually scared of the hamster I just never realized he has no soul in his eyes yeah it's just pure Blackness yeah horrify pretty sure that's one of his legendary skins if I'm not mistaken yeah that was just horrifying to see all right more dad jokes that's all I can hear sure why not oh yeah why did cow what you you already messed it up yeah I can't speak cuz I laughed why do cows wear Bells cuz their horns don't work okay what okay oh that one's kind of negative I'm not going to read that one loud huh that one's kind of negative RP boiling water you will be missed okay the time fly time flies like an arrow fruit flies like a banana oh I don't understand that one hey I I think they're funny guess they're doing push now I thought I thought thought last game was push yeah it was pushed escort yeah no this no the robots push yeah listen to me last game must have been escort H yeah it's all the same to me yeah difference is there a robot and there a payload yeah it's pretty much the same thing you just got to push it further than the opponent by the end of time yeah with escort though you have to get it all the way to the end without failing yeah couldn't think of the word thr on the same team this time I mean it worked before yeah unless the other team can find a counter for that which they of the characters that they are good that they know how to play then there's really not much the other team can do but uh they can't keep them in spawn cuz that just ruins it because they can't have someone sitting back and watching you have one person with the robot I know but I don't see who would do that cuz you need to BU of all time it actually works a it works a lot better than what you may think yeah it just doesn't seem logical to do that though oh yeah it's like with pay payloads and escort not ESC yeah escort notice the enemy has a junkrat which sadly just instantly dies is that H H I can't remember his name I just call him H Cassy Cassidy that's it cassid is actually my favorite cuz in a futuristic world of robots and machines and energy Shields just a cowboy in there just I'm pretty sure the arm that he shoots with is just a a robot arm I'm pretty sure surpr I could be wrong though looks they are are going to start spawn Campo see I told you it's a very popular Tech it's a very popular way it's a very good technique but I don't it's good but you don't want to do it all the time it's it's I want to say it's useful cuz it is but also could cost you the game too yes it's also cheesy but it could also cost you the game which is also another thing I don't like doing what I don't like about them looks like they are going to you know guess they are going to just spawn Camp them which they just really don't have a cter for yeah it's unless they can kill hamster before he can get back over and push it back but by the time they get back they're the only car I can think there's a really good counter against it is like orisa yeah orisa she pretty much she has like no counter to her because of her upgrade that she got doesn't help he also pop his Al so he has AR just deny of area yeah which it's going to be horrible just has to kill the Reinhardt I mercy and Arisa could do it that's actually really they're actually really good tag yeah cuz even if they get low and she doesn't have her healing ability well there can just pop her golden form and then she won't and then mercy can buff it yeah Mercy can buff it and then pretty much just anyone there if you can't kill her in time then it's just game if it's a team deathmatch then but if it wasn't then that it still be I know why he's holding shield in spawn yeah you're pretty much just wasting your shield now if you do that which there's no point maybe because he's paranoid cuz of Genji oh yeah Fair May maybe has some PTSD from that now go to the slam just not letting him get back into his spawn oh he almost got the kill before he out ibody get slapped that would be a pretty good combo to get out of this oh looks like they are going to push it all the way to the end and spunk yeah see it told you it works all the time just not every time they not B definition all the time every time it works but not all the time it works no I said that wrong most of the time it works works yeah looks like hamster didn't get play of the game this time I'll be honest I forget her name so I just call her Titanfall Titanfall cuz that but she her see it sens the ability pretty much her abilities are pretty close to yeah I can see as you know I really put Titanfall a lot so so I believe that was the last of the games if I'm there might be one more but I don't know I doubt there is nope cuz I was we do three games yeah but I that was the third one yep yeah I'm I'm thinking of a good J joke okay all righty looks like Jacob for an interview Y and uh if you have a question don't ask him why he look so serious cuz he's a very serious fellow here you go yes oh just sit here in the middle all righty how did you guys feel about the game play spawn camping spawn camping the entire time they never that bad it was just like an XP farm for them but uh I felt horrible you know I kind of want to give them a chance because they definitely seem new so but then again you teach them how to counter against it what would be the best counter against spawn camping like that um me and hard push uh cuz they were going squishies like uh KIRO all that stuff I would think like a Reaper um what would an orisa work yeah we were think would definitely work we were thinking Arisa mercy and maybe Health boost damage boost yeah yeah maybe a Bastion um that's really all I can think of I mean an Anna probably would have helped too cuz it would have just they had Anna but it she wasn't used the abilities like profit for so Jacob I do got to ask why so serious why I don't know why I'm so serious yeah do you get any get dad jokes cuz really we're just kind of bored in here off the top of your yeah absolutely we're Bor in here I I don't have any D oh come on let's find one here see your ones ah I said that one before now here you go read number 30 what do you call a pig that practices karate oh my I don't know P out oh yeah all right is there anything else you to say my father no no no no no you can't Budd hey you can drink SP you can drink Sprite yeah but no not the story you about to say sprite's horrible I'm sorry no it's horrible yeah it's horrible Mountain de's best no no get out of here Mountain de is horrible too I love Prime we love Prime drink Prime drink Prime we should probably should have save this in live stream we probably get get copyrighted or something yeah no it's a promotion it's a promotion yeah to the people that are promoting yeah we're bashing certain products yeah sure yo welcome Paul you welcome back to the stream guys re rating a prime with Keith Ledger Joker back here yeah he where he's always serious about his drink products Drake I didn't say drink I said drink oh said drink drink well that's all we're wait want the mic like just put it back on the seat when you leave no you want to see how I got this mic you want to see how I got this mic you want to see how I got this mic all righty see you Jacob all righty so we're going to wait around 5:15ish to varsity varsity facing Westell is it Westell okay looks like they're looks like they're ready right [Music] now [Music] a [Music] [Applause] [Music] he [Music] he [Music] a [Music] up [Music] a [Music] [Applause] [Music] o [Music] oh [Music] ah [Music] a [Music] [Applause] [Music] yeah [Music] a [Music] p [Music] he [Music] yeah [Music] up [Music] a [Music] [Applause] [Music] o [Music] a [Music] he [Music] a [Music] welcome back uh looks like varsity's getting ready to play they are actually playing I'm sorry uh let's go ahead and go to like daily or a support right now all right so daily is actually a I believe a support character as well and I damage deal I can't think of name it's I can't remember the name either I just remember it's just like the power of the Sun and whatever and it looks like it is point right now I want to say zarya but I'm pretty sure that is a tank though yeah I'm pretty sure zarya's a tank it looks like they also have a Cassidy a Bastion the Noah special and uh can't remember rest of people's name H can't remember the rest of people's name either oh look it's right there uhti Cassidy Sigma can't think of her name yeah I'm horrible Nam and uh Bastion that's why I call them uh Winston monkey and I know most names it's just it gets confusing when you get two people's names who sound so alike I don't know will sounds pretty similar but don't have given confus for a while I was getting Bastion baptized mixed together listen they're all the same yeah well not really no not at all looks like spectating new as Bastion which is trying to flank him which is working it looks like working which is not bad does get a lot of assist and kills nearly a full Squad wi right there no it's just sitting there with his Al yep I don't know if he wants to use it right away you might want to hold on to it just in case you're all on point and you're rushing back looks like Lily has her Al too so is lighton yeah looks like dy I mean Caleb is accidentally fell down metal point right now if they can get to a great sniping spot and use his alt be great oh looks like he pops his Al actually that rasa is causing them trouble yeah Arisa is very trouble she's always been trouble well yeah because of the new up her new rework and update well rework and Buffs she's pretty much the definition of a tank and a DPS and well she was before she was even before that yeah but it looks like uh the cast is trying to get some head shot on that High Noon when he gets it it's going to be useful but it won't be enough to kill the Arisa so the only problem is he already used it yeah problema is just around the corner yep there she is but they uh played a spart and got rid of the Healer first yeah yeah now they only have to worry about the two DPS that's out no has still all I don't know if wants a pop it before the came in 99 oh it looks like it's overtime thanks the M look like Noah just popped this all but yeah that's the first point of coin yeah I sound super on at that uh I'm sounding really really enthusiastic right now just leave me alone you need to go to bed after this I'm going straight the bed and maybe play some games when I wake up before I go to school maybe okay if I wake up yeah no that is it yeah I was supp to say if you wake up I do wake up for school this is the first day of his ever late looks like they're running the same like Squad Li looks like the L changed the support looks like the Cassie gets one head shot off but doesn't get second oh looks like he gets it look they have a the opponents have a mer mer which could be quite devanal looks like the May is the first one to go yeah oh just m the clip on C is gone now yep oh they killed their healer too so now they're now they have to kill them before their healer can respawn looks like our healer's perfectly fine yeah doing enough damage but also keeping people good and on health looks like Noah is also just holding down the fort he was at an angle but there look like he's moving yeah looks like he's going back up to an ankle like C the snipe to the Head too jeez he also gets high noon which could be very deadly for the enemy team here yeah well yeah yeah when they all group up in that one spot though well it's hard hard not see when you have a Bastion going to your left going to your left and then a f i can't remember his name that tank that they have is Sara no Sigma it's Sigma no yeahuh the enemy team I'm talking about sorry yeah I already know our team yeah has Sigma Sigma to your right and then Bas to your left yeah look like back love Sigma so believe it Sigma and Arisa who he mainly plays if I'm not mistaken absolutely I wish she surprised and not see more Arisa come out right now yeah Le like mac does get us all so it would be pretty deadly if he just uses it and C uses his vault but it looks like Clayton actually already used it which good thing about C these all is it comes back pretty fast yeah but it's also a good way it's also an easy way to die too thing cuz you can't move you can't well you can move it's just no you you Shuffle around but it's not really moving but it looks like to get pretty much the only way to get out of it is is just shooting Mercy try to for overtime but Mercy gets punished for it just Noah just draining their bastion's health it's like no is using his Al for the first time y only gets one kill out of it he atast at least killed the tank he killed their tank which killed their healer now it looks like they have another healer it looks like uh Caleb has popped his Al which quite deadly cuz it heals your team and it so Dam yeah Mor's all is pretty dangerous and it surprisingly if you know how to use the character correctly it's really fast looks like the Winston was a bit too late to jump in there looks like they ended up winning round one like I said Mir is probably one of my favorite characters to play oh my bad her name's araria I cannot think of her name where did they start I don't know I don't know anymore yeah but it was play the game so yeah I can think of about right now is more dad jokes got any T your have before I start looking them up besides the ground beef one which everybody knows not really what's wrong with some ground beef here there actually sounds pretty good some hamburger actually it's not not bad that and or french toast you still on French toast yes I would love some french toast but now listen you don't judge my Cravings are do yeah well that's goodz it's like a day-to-day basis for me he judging your Cravings listen I judge your hair what I don't know just what does his hair have to do with food cuz your hair is really curly for apparently isn't I just really bushy what are you try to copy my hair now no you cop me in my hair you know you can't rock the fro like I could I had a fro before you ever I had a element no yeah I'm telling you oh looks like they play ham which it does not look like they actually play it like it does I'm so confused by this he's picking he's not oh nope never mind no do not the Hamp look like they're all going to the same characters as last time well for the most part Cassidy Leon yeah it's going Ash canot think it's so many there's too many people there's too many characters it's also so weird how people have like so many games have Ash characters in their name like uh know Rainbow 6 has an ash Pokemon yeah Pokemon has Ash pretty sure every Pokemon has at least featured Ash once that are at least red and blue red featured in pretty much every game yeah he's spoked about at least I think it's the my favorite appearance from red in the Pokemon series has to be from gold which one was that the one you fought him in or that was the one where you fought him where he isolated himself on a mountain just to dull his skills down so he can feel the challenge again really yeah that's why I liked him he was like cuz he was so good why he beat every yeah he beat everying G leader from each region from that far he's like I'm just going to dull down my skills from staying isolated in this mountain cuz it it would have got boring though yeah it would definitely get boring that's why I throw away most my safe F want to beat the game but it looks like the match has started should probably get to that yeah get off the top subject of Pokemon yeah looks like we're getting chewed out from Lucas so it looks like the sigma is also going up top like Anakin once said not Anakin open one I have The High Ground now what I don't yeah they're trying to FL and I've just s uh news that the opponent right now uh the played valent last year and that is the reason why we got second place some of the people on the team yeah some of the people of the whole team yeah so they think uh so people feel actually yeah I don't really s's just absorbing every bullet they shoot at him well he can't so much absorb zarya zarya is actually a pretty good tank did you know that yes she's really useful but is it's really hard to actually play the character it's yeah it's really hard but once you get used to it it's pretty fun to play her looks like Leon's camping up in a uh and you could put a lot of stress on the enemy team with her which is what I like about her like Leon's camping up in building yeah it's just like Anna Ash is well she can be a close-up character but her it can get with her it can get risky really quick I don't think so honestly I play Ash pretty close up for no reason but do you die a lot yes absolutely but at least I take down at least three other players when to die so most of the time it's mainly because that bomb right there yeah you pressure them just to stay there it doesn't get them all low and then just Chuck the bomb watch him just yeah and also doesn't help you have the uh ultimate like Clayton does right now Bob which Bob is actually my favorite character from OverWatch besides tan he's really annoying Bob absolutely so much health for no reason stupid so you got to either Focus the enemy team or Bob and either way at least one person gets wrecked by Bob at least one oh yeah well not Le you know actually how to go against counter poop which I really don't know how to I really don't you want the answer to that yeah I know Teresa Tera oh she's CED every bu it look like bastion's in the window getting a lot of assist and kills right now yeah so they don't push the escort any further but he does fortunately go down M Genji and it looks likeon switched up to play Widowmaker or black widow sorry Widowmaker is it Widowmaker yep it's Widowmaker not Black Widow listen she's inspired by a black widow so not necess yeah it's stated in the game trailer and everything it wasn't a black widow though it was we fight about the Sal day but the game pay is more important fair point but it does look like he does get healed misses the grapple ability to get out of there get just he just gets flung back to where he was looks like Noah bastion's at a high angle looks like he just got done using his all oh he only he only killed the um but at least got the Winston pretty low I can't think of it too much stuff that goes on in this game so easy to lose focus like Wiston put down the shield for oh for just get a little bit Health back yeah but it really didn't do him any well no it's cuz he rushed back yeah when he could have just stayed back a bit and regain more health and looks like I don't think this died I don't think the heer was there yeah looks like they're playing I can't remember that character's name at all I say Hawkeye that's the Marvel one who what the one that leighton's playing yes it's Hanzo Hanzo that's it I know was like you're Hanzo and you got his brother Genji which are Hanzo is actually his all is really stupid if you can get them all cornered it's it'd be great for if they're going up got to shoot it right there cuz they can't step into it or they'll just start getting damaged looks like uh Mr M right there popped all then most games sigma's Al is actually really good I say most cuz it can ALS it also cuz if you don't get everybody you could miss some like say you miss an attack unit you could miss that and they'd end up killing you and then your all would just end but those like the one jumped over a wall yeah like Humpty Dumpty I really he didn't fall off the wall though no he jumped off it he was the one that broke the wall yeah which is weird cuz yall support my oh right there that's that Al two kills from it Li the Winston to get out of there they can't be it for long looks like the Winston and Zen didn't get out of there in time the Winston just got meleed oh he was one TA from like basically anything yeah oh there's that Greninja that Greninja I don't know why I'm think about Pokemon Greninja yeah there's that Genji yeah list Greninja yes don't you remember Greninja had a sword in the original Pokemon oh right no he did not a water dagger oh let see the Bastion Sigma is trying to keep their own Bastion does come down one thing I do like about Bastion is when he dies it's pretty much just Lego blocks he does have a Lego skin oh yeah oh yeah he does I forgot about that trying to put another character let's take follows on Soldier which you really don't see the Lego skin anymore while very kful and it's easy to spot out yeah which in this game doesn't really matter but I was about to say yeah all you have to do is just look around and look for health the health is what gives it away skins really don't really do much unless you're a bit unless you're not looking right Ma has his Al but I don't know when he's going to pop it he might want to wait to pop that Al when they're all like right there it could be deadly cuz ly and uh Lily also has an Al right now believe hers oh like mac pops the AL was able to get the other kills from there does get two but Max on a five player kill streak right now always he's got to ring the gong not always kind of scary cuz 30 seconds left and they push the payload pretty far back yeah so Point really wasn't their thing but payload looks like it is yeah but hey you never know yeah you never know everything can turn around they could push it all the way to point yeah look like Mercy also popped her all but that was not Mercy sorry look like round one is complete you mean it's like oh that's round two I don't think some junk rat he just your average conspiracy theorist what's what's the conspiracy on him I'm telling you explosions should be legally owned from everyone that's why we have the Second Amendment okay bud no looks like what he's doing what is Leon oh he going play he plays Z up say whatting pick there no was just sitting there just looking at the score see who has the most kills the uh I don't really know what to call that one what Chris's Chris's oh yeah you see like the full map of it so that would be that's spectator mode yeah but I don't really would call it spect CU it's really not though well pretty much it's just a pretty much to make sure free cam and spectator put together yeah look Ekko just rushes in yeah hope it'll flank him but oh he does flank oh goodness that's one heck of a flank yeah cuz then he instantly just falls back for support that is ekko's actually a really good character yeah that is in the right circumstances she could that looks like looks like she's got Discord put on to her and it looks like uh B about Bastion just about died yeah but just about but also got a kill yeah from the person on High Ground so it's a highrisk high reward right there yeah is he going to keep it he get a kill CU like that is he going to keep that he might be really surprised I would love to see him do this oh he does oh the echo kills him though the echo kills him but he basion does die so that's if that's a fair trade a tank goes down but a DPS goes down so or if we're talking about damage wise it wouldn't really be would it would be a fair one but unit wise it wouldn't really be that fair unit wise was a fair trade damage wise I don't really think it was yeah Fair Point yeah pretty much us bash's ability was damage wise is insane I don't know exactly what bastion's DPS is but I'm pretty sure it's really really high um the highest in the game not the highest non wise oh say if we're talking about alt wise zisa who has the highest damage per second that's damage oh damage per oh yeah like oh yeah like Soldier 76 is a pretty high one but it's not as high as Bastion yeah look the sigma is also trying to rush up looks like they have a who is that character is that BAS as well H yeah yeah they have their own Bastion Bastion I oh who was that behind the Bastion though it's too ear to find out kind of there's like Echo rushes in like junkrat's trying to just run around what is that junkrat junkrat is a character that really should just be anywhere yeah and it just works it looks like no really yeah it really just works no it's confusing at how it works but it it just does it's something you just got to get over it looks like Leon pops his all and gets fashion all while he's at it but it gets yeah that's the one thing I love about Eko cuz her Al pretty much just gives you a second life gives you a second life also gives you the opponent to copies Al yeah so if you copy Bastion after a Bastion Al it's like oh bastion's Al's gone so it has to be our friendly team yeah it was not I believe if I'm not Mist wrong you can also get their all by transforming into them too yeah EXA echo's all is getting their all essentially yeah which if you play some like a Resa it's kind of scary yeah it's pretty scary which the enemy team does have a Resa but but really wouldn't really matter cuz they just won the game though doesn't have to push it back further we'll see player of the game get play of the game it's like Lily got player of the game you really don't see a support class get play of the game yeah unless you count the OG battle Mercy yeah that's still insane it was like what 60 damage per shot uh I believe so I believe it was was say cuz like oh yeah she only has a pistol why not make that pistol very strong yeah unfortunately she's not she she's really not that good in this game besides to healing and damage boost as but it looks like uh Chris is oh Sor you want go ahead and say looks like Chris is going to be replacing Lily see how he does I'm he that's what he's been saying every time we asked he was ready so I saw him typ I was like all right I'm kind of mean he's giving them motivation I am SE Tracer that much anymore which is confusing CU that was original iic characters from watch and Genji you don't really see that much I don't know space bar for Genji really I don't think you can view anything cuz we're not like yeah and Tracer to the point where he is terrible now it also looks like they have a Lucio a Lucio with a tracer yeah cuz that's all they need yeah one the highest speed characters with a Lucio Co get ready for this Tracer to be across the map it would be a good thing with Tracer which would be which wouldn't happen because it's too broken but if her blitch could go through walls that would be too broken that's yeah that's what I was saying it'd be too like I said he's already halfway AC he's already halfway to it you don't even need to be that far in that score you got to be there with your team yeah you just got to be there he can't even hold out his line of sight he could have he could have already actually got a couple meters in too and then just retreated back no but he wants that flank though yeah which Tracer I do not blame cuz you can just get out of there really fast with the time you kill off their healer and then just run oh looks like they just revived their Winston yeah that's why I think they uh played Tracer they played Mercy last game so it stop them this time yeah Trac is really a good counter for Mercy cuz he can get in there and before you die you can just rewind Time 5 Seconds yeah and then you just get all the health back not really yeah all the health you lose you get back when oh well I didn't know that yeah all the yeah it's it's it's a good ability but Tracer just in there and that ability gets the mercy again that is poor Mercy yeah that is actually trying to live and um uh medieval times they would actually Target like doctors clinic it's a witch yeah that is why it's considered a war crime tar being hospitals and churches so CU they're Place sanction for anyone no matter the enemy you are yeah Friend or Foe but in games like this you want to Target the Healer speak can Road Hog did you not Road Hog Genji did you know he can deflect Road Hog's grapple h got to use that you that game you just have to time it right this Tracer is just going in and out just yeah just like somra before somra got the rework and messed my way of playing Sombra up yeah but now get place your translocator down get a little damage in and get back had your system yeah their system well really just get up there Play support as well just get up to like a window yeah Sombra and just spray that SMG you have yeah until you get your all you do it right you can kill pretty much yeah how I used her is I just placed it like pretty far back but look like Bas us her all is um an EMP I know she saying I plac a teleporter far back then rush and then rush out yeah but this look like the uh Sigma does go down it's like see if they'll just Camp it Camp them in spawn I see why not they have the thing pretty far back oh no they other team's starting to push it back now and looks like Chris is go okay looks like yeah looks like bastion's the only one yeah bit now three of them are out of Spawn so they just got wait for that one to come back there's that Trac in oh I was say where did the damage come from that Noah just received was that a weird angle it's like the robot's back back at the start already yeah it looks like an enemy of Bastion just happened but they all managed to get out of it in time yeah that's the one thing about Bastion all you can get out of it easily but cuz you can see it very easily yeah it's quick I don't know if it actually worked in this map because it's not an open yeah really it doesn't really work that well oh yeah but sigma's yeah sigma's Road Hog gets out of it because it's a grappling hook that is yeah I didn't know I do that that's the one thing about Road Hog and against Sigma I like I can't see if that's the only way you that's the only way to get your team out of his Al is just grapple hook him if you have a road hog I look like Caleb is playing an Anna which is a new pick that is a Reaper by Lon yep I haven't really been seeing much Reapers anymore which is weird I used to me them a lot yeah I always find it impractical where he just throws his shotguns away though yeah just boom boom boom gone you have to just imagine how much money that cost what just to just to throw away your shotgun throw away your shotguns and just pull out new ones not only that the ammo you'd have to get too yeah cuz each time he reloads he just throws it away yeah they were trying to FL oh they got an deresa that might be a problem I don't think so L knows how to counter it pretty well yeah just rushes that is if he can because ARA the update kind of ruined it for but it does look like they Bunch up which is quite deadly because of Bastion and looks like Noah's popping his Al which he might get a kill oh no but he does get a lot of damage off looks like he might take out the and there goes the life Weaver yeah which I find I find life Weaver to be really annoying sometimes yeah there's look like the Sigma goes down mainly cuz of that right there the Mercy's also right there doesn't the mercy oh he doesn't take out the mercy no 4 minutes so if they can keep their escort as far back as possible it would work it looks like the pops all does not get the Bastion kill pretty much all it is just a stall for time right now that's all you really got to do yeah or just push it all the way to the oh that bastter was one HP that was that's that's sad to see that's sad yeah you oh it's annoying to see that yeah let's say Caleb and Mac also has their all so Mac's just probably waiting until they Bunch up in one little group for Sigma Al but it's a lot of damage and they don't have Road Hog this time so they don't have uh no actually AA spear can take him out of it too so there's Al oh looks like that's only if the uh can hit the spear yeah but hasn't used the spear ability is he going to pop he just wants to get the right away from that Arisa does not seem be pretty much any any Arisa you see their main mission is always just to take out the tank first then the Healer yeah but it looks like uh Noah switches to May which probably trying to freeze Thea which I did not blame him at all yeah it's a good way at countering Thea but that oh there's oh that's B never mind I thought I thought bash was hoping that they would just walk by him I was thinking that was the arasa oh looks like looks like the Genji just goes up there and falls down oh there's an iconic Duo oh looks like they end up the is pretty low hope they don't hit the golden Genji is just going through everybody she gets a golden unfortunately but it does pop us all hope he does get the Mercy does not doesn't get the rock though yeah well B no I say Rocka yeah but it looks like the May cleans up gets a recent and life Weaver yeah most custom game modes May is really annoying cuz like gun games she can one shot people which I find it to be really annoying yeah but we're here for custom game after yeah we're here for yeah we're here for the tournament so no more gun game it looks like mate does have Al which that Al can actually help them a lot yeah it does a lot of damage and it also freezes them a little bit makes them a little bit slower oh well there goes yeah I bet he's waiting for the enemy Arisa to just sit in the middle and use it uses his heal ability looks like the sigma gets the Arisa what's heal ability doesn't really heal you that much does not but it does make you immune for like five or six seconds yeah which in uh Noah's case was life saving controller it's also good in too cuz if you're about to die and your teammates are like right there you could just go into the ice block and they I was thinking more uh point cuz if like going over time and you want more people on point oh yeah yeah it looks like Sigma om say it's all but I don't see him getting it before re just not missing her Spears no Spears Sometimes hard to hit but not all the time yeah like uh Sigma is a very big guy so I don't see it Miss oh there's the first spe never mind oh there's there's the but that re yeah still was a Resa oh oh FS most of bastion's bullet but Bastion learned better and sub spr is behind Bastion yeah cuz that's the one downside when it's a Bastion against the Genji Genji can just deflect them all so yeah but that Billy doesn't last forever both sides well actually you can kill the Gen the Genji Bastion yes doesn't care team did win this match wonder you got play game I think it may have been Bastion Bastion got play game oh was Genji did looks like he did wi that was three oh I see why he got it yeah y but it does look like that's the end of the game uh so like I said last time this is the the some of those people that we played today was on the valant team last year and that is the reason why we got second place in valer last year but so kind of feeling Justice for last year not not really that much that should do it all for tonight make sure to join us in for tomorrow yep and on November 4th we are having a Super Smash BR tournament here at Bon high school you can uh sign up online uh I cannot remember the website coach just one second let me find it while I'm find it you want to do some sponsors uh that page that picture all okay do you have a favorite nonprofit that could use an awesome fundraising idea auction it is in on oh my gosh I I can get that one just let me play this real quick it's the uh the website you find the super smash press cament at is ssbu do BH msd.org or show up on Saturday uh which is the 4th 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all right welcome to the November 1st regular meeting of the annor Planning Commission for detailed information on the meeting procedures please review the full printed meeting agenda as provided M Kelly will you please call the role commissioner Lee here commissioner aons here commissioner W here commissioner Mills here commissioner hamers Schmid has noted she will be absent this evening council member dish here commissioner sa here commissioner Clark commissioner Weatherby here you have a quorum thank you uh moving on to approval of the agenda may I have a motion to approve uh commissioner hammer or I'm sorry Mills seconded by commissioner white all those in favor please say I I I any opposed the motion carries um minutes of the previous meeting May I have a motion to approve the minutes of the October 17th commissioner uh Mills and council member dish uh is there any discussion of the minutes all those in favor of the motion please say I I I any opposed seeing no one the motion carries next up by the reports of the Planning Commission and written communication council member dish I'm going to start with you no report because Council hasn't met since the last time we did oh thank you m Kelly do you have any report I do I would uh first of all like to introduce the person who is sitting to my right um first day for our new planning Services intern Jonathan artson so uh please give a welcome to Jonathan uh they will be shadowing uh stuff and learning about the Planning Commission through the meeting this evening uh you also have a comprehensive Plan update from planning manager Leonard he is scheduling a subcommittee meeting to develop recommendations to finalize your steering committee and also the consultant team is reviewing um past surveys and uh still doing uh a bit of existing conditions review the tc1 resident participation meeting for the rezoning of 63 Parcels along Wasa Corridor will be held Thursday in person November 16th uh at 6:30 p.m.

uned [Music] States stands na indivisible andice for all Mrs Le here Mrs Amaria here Mrs Alan coming in late on the way Mr M Mr call the public we have any calls to the well we obviously didn't make it available for phone call but we did put the address in so people know it's off campus and then we'll have um it's being recorded and we'll just post the recording on the webs so with that we have our so with that we are going to have we're going start out with our team building activi so if we can just make a circle cing slow we will start so we're on time crunch so this is called Never Have I Ever So if I say something and and it has happened to you then you are going to step forward okay it has happened if it has happened can we go out to the hallway never have I ever okay broken a bone oh I have broken bone step in if you have oh if you have if you have yes okay where' you bring finger hand ankle oh we don't get back never have I ever met my idol I don't think I have you yourself Step Up okay we're doing never have I ever if it pertains to you you it to the middle okay now okay this past question was have I met my idol so okay eating ice cream wow okay no the Queen's not my no that's why myid Michael all right okay no never have I ever [Music] fainted never have I ever been arrested we're stepping in look if it appes to is that in this country or I call my attorney that's why I'm here okay if it pertains to you you step in okay but I had it interested if it doesn't apply to you you st [Music] ever um traveled out of state by myself you traveled out of state by yourself step in totally alone a dog a dog is fine okay out State Tred out of state by yourself not meeting anybody not like just going alone on a vacation or okay um peed my pants while laughing oh my God that would be all mother ly are aded gone to work with Miss mat shoes sister she been doing that being chased by a dog gotten into a fist fite grade next we gotten sick on a roller coaster car got sick on on TV it was an episode of cops okay made a Tik Tock I watch a lot of Tik Tok made okay um know what that is fail a diet failed a diet in 24 hours every day minutes ago gotten stitches everybody except injy how about flowing on a [Music] helicopter gotten stuck on a ride at a theme park stuck an hour to the principal oh [Music] yeah [Music] I there somebody so there's nobody here okay all right so thank you for entertaining me and are getting to know you um activ just everyone is about so just so you know we will um have this for 30 minutes and then we are going to have a discussion and um as we talk about prioritizing our needs we'll talk a little bit about our school letter grade and dinner is going to be in the other room and there's a table set up for us that'll be ready um at 6 o' okay 600 to 6:30 and then um we are going to wrap up with our board self evaluation um after dinner so everybody else can go and then we'll just need like five five seven minutes to talk about the board he valuation is need that um if not we will adj because we know the Diamond Backs are playing and it's at 5:00 so we'll kind have some just keep on okay bathrooms are right around the corner out this door to the net and then they're on the right hand side so we're going to start out with um basic information so Greg you can that slide so our budget for last year was 7.6 million our budget this year is 5.6 million now we got our budge 25 report in today um that's saying that ad says say our budget should be 5 5,640 um there's an issue with Transportation miles so once we get that fixed we should be right back at our 5.63 3 million um we're right now we're looking at expenses this year at 5.4 with 145,50 carrying over into the upcoming school year so if we're looking at what we proposed at this meeting last year we proposed A 5.6 so we're pretty 5,629 so we're really really close to that number um we lost our high school tuition due to the changes of how that is all paid out so that decreased our budget by 1.9 million and we did have our 15% medical expenses increase so that 15% increase was 49151 now this year we are still picking up all three plans for all of the employees that want it but that may change with the upcoming years we'll have to look and see how things go with that so back to our M with that 5.6 million that is where we pay our salaries our supplies our travel our professional development any utilities so that's our electrical that's our water that's our internet capital is 556987627 specific student programmatic needs and it is $16,988 16,000 from last year and they have been decreasing every year since my sevene tenure here at Continental so with title we receive 103,000 and we pay a third of the reading specialist salary and benefits that's a bul of that's a good chunk of that money we used to pay half of that salary and we had to decrease it to a third um I think this is our second year that we've been doing a third um our summer academic enrichment so summer school comes out of this fund and we budget for seven teachers um avid conference registration travel for six teachers and four administrators has come out of Title One our me now Institute where we pay for Dian and Steve to attend we now which is a mentoring program for administrators through um County soups office and then um we pay our Wi-Fi hotspots laminator of IT Supplies our homeless set aside and postage so they make us put money in the homeless set aside even though we don't have a large number of homeless kids but we still have to budget for them for supplies that they may need um and then we have to send newsletters out for Title One purposes so we include poage in that um title 2A is improving teacher quality so we received $30,000 out of title 2A and a third of the salary and benefits are for our instructional technology teacher just miss to we used it this year to buy our depth of knowledge flip books and we have um put in for PD professional development 3000 we did budget that money to work witha in terms of us being able to tap in to their professional development because they do have an extensive professional development catalog which um we haven't had a lot of teachers buy into that so money is there and I'll tell you how we think we may have to reallocate it for something else that we need um title four is student support and academic enrichment so we receive $10,000 and that pays for our three summer enrichment teachers so you see with the seven teachers from Title One and the three from title four then we have 10 teachers that we can um have for summer school Ida is 144 ,000 so we have a special Le portion of Ida and a special education portion so sped J bed is 141,000 which we have for um salaries which pays for mind's salary we have one programmatic assistant and half of the Spence records Clerk before we were able to pay for we had like in the course of the years we've been deting we had six parol seven you know 543 now we only have one because of the budget and then half of the SPs record SP records Clerk is there um we also use it for conferences Mindy is taking part in the energized program which is similar to the lead now for administrators it's for special ed Stu uh special ed students for special ed directors and preschool special ed so this year we added Dr Robinson on to specialed it focuses on special education leadership so so they're participating in that and supplies again which is um there for special ed preschool we get a little tiny amount of 3,000 and we um use 3,000 for Maggie's quality time which um provides sensory activities for preschool so she comes in how often she comes in twice a month twice a month um and Works in our preschool our school safety expansion grant that we had put in for um two years ago is 25,000 which was an increase of 1,257 from the previous year the second position has not been approved yet one counselor and one part-time counselor salary and benefits so that's out of that safety school extension Grant where we would not be able to have um the additional uh middle school counselor is supposed to be coming out of this fund as well they increase the funding so we need to look into why that has not been released yet so the total grants received for the year are 262,000 so these are title grants so remember when we talk about all these programs and people wonder you know well why can't we just use this 262,000 for raises for jet that specific to the guidelines on what we can spend these funds on a reduction of 106,000 is that state fed those um these are all federal gr so this is okay so there was we've had conversations on funds so I just quickly wanted to see here we have a zero balance in the S one and S 2 we have $118 and in answerer three we have 124,000 what we are looking at doing is doing a journal entry um because it was for uh to cover the sickly for teachers so we had put in for teachers and benefits so if we do a journal entry it'll free up money for M for potential raises for staff this year on on which fund on sr3 funding so we can we can journal entry that 124 we can from our M budget we can code it to S3 and it'll be a zero balance in S3 and that frees up the 124 for potential raises if that's what we decide to do but does that have to be you have to find a new source of that 125 Grand the following year right that's going to be done right right so if if you allocate the 125 grand for raises better find us somewhere else well we either say we have no raises next year or whatever we decide to do in our budget and the 50,000 there for principal and director of student services is their salary paid no so what happened was for sther one that funding was used for us to be able to do whatever we needed to do to prepare for Co when we had to get the classrooms ready and and so we paid a stip in not St we journaled out the principal and the assistant principal salaries because what do you mean so we took the $50,000 that we had already spent in salaries and benefits with Miss clis and and then we replaced it with that to one money so it put that money back so this mon you can move around on like the grant M the some degree the some degree depends on so like we're talking about the journal entry for Esser 3 it is specifically written in our grant for it to cover teacher sick Le okay we haven't had to use that because our teachers haven't run out of sickly or we haven't had hardly anybody that's run out of sickly but what we can do is we can Journal that just like we did with the sr1 funds and it frees up that that M money again you spent some districts use that sr3 funding to give teachers a retention stien who came back after Co right so what they kept saying when you kept hearing oh we're getting a retention stepen to return they and that's what we did with Esser too you can see the 148,000 return return to work sens DS I just a few years ago that was worded like that and teachers thought we got paid $50,000 over the summer I do not I just want to clarify that that's not what that is because that ends up you know I just want that on the record because it gets that's how it looks and that's how the way it's worded it's like working on conting planet over the summer 50,000 to us we it wasn't like that was can I ask for further clarification on that Greg is this referring to this summer or three years ago summer when that s fund was originally presented to the entire staff that we made 50,000 years ago yeah okay in future presentations because this has come up and it raises eyebrows all over the place and makes us look really bad to our staff that needs to be dated and explained much clearer because up there it looks like we're going to take split it in half $25,000 jobs and that is not happen yeah we think we'll we'll do that does a great explanation every time it comes up but it keeps coming up at public meetings that it's not good for us so this so the purpose of this presentation was to catch everybody else up it's not necessarily what we're going to what we're going to present to teachers yeah I understand but once again we're in a public meeting presented it needs to be presented as the explanation every time not what it says can I go back to what Andrew said so if you move that 125 over now you've got at least in this year's budget that much more to enhance hours and when 2425 comes up got you got you're short so it's already looking with the way healthc care is going that I am not going to be able to pick up every single person's insurance you know we were able to do that for two years and we may be going back to just picking up the lowest cost time so that itself would free up over half of that my only point was is I just don't want to say well the money's there let's just spend it on increases but then not be able to support those increases year two or three down the road that was my if we can great but yeah that's part of our charge right for today okay so our additional Grant funds as you know we've received white elephant funds the foundation and the bi rotary grants that support a lot of our special projects that we have at our school so we're grateful for all that they do to support us regularly that last phase of the musical Gard I know we have the money if we ordered the stuff what's left to do install it that was through the through the Kern Foundation yeah the money that we received from the Kern foundation and I'm not sure that we' received it I haven't I don't think we've received it because the foundation got like 18,000 okay I don't think that we've received it yet that was at least a month um so our current balance in tax credit is 247,000 so you can just see there what we um receive and what we have extended every year we all need to realize how fortunate we are to have we are super super fortunate and again our clubs our Sports and our tutorials and today we talked to our teachers about having to be more deliberate in that ret section of who's being retaught and again if we have more of a need we know we have that money available for specific tutorials for additional students that are just Tater towards specific standards what do you guys using this money the tax credit money on like what I stains all of our clubs all of our Sports and all our tutorials that's we pay sponsors for um Club sponsors we paid the tutors for tutoring we paid for field trips out of it um a lot of that money is is sitting in with Civics for the Washington DC trip was unifor cegs and we just received um some additional Community member support for UNS how much are they giving us Steve for unicorns it's complicated because it's broken up into years of donations but what they're allowed to do is they're doing their donations as a couple which is 400 and then their workplace GRE cck from wrong is doubling that so one of them works for um caterpillar the other one works for the mine and the mines and Cat will both match they're and so we're not looking at like a huge chunk of money it's literally going to be like 16 1600 bucks to yeah and then it'll be here and then they're going to do that again after January one wait a year and do that again so it's coming in slowly um but at the fall Carnival we have the Optimus club that always does the food there and gives 100% of those donations so we're putting funds together to get we're starting with the soccer teams to get new forms for them um um and then from there we're going to get increase the number of track uniforms as we had close to 80 kids in the track team last school year um and obviously we've never had that need before so they were wearing a really old track uniform wasn't there a large chunk of money in the uniform allocated box I'm not aware of the uniform allocated box that you speak of the majority of the tax credit the truth of the matter is what's what's earmarked for athletics doesn't meet the stiens of all the coaches that we have since there's a lot of coaches to run the athletic program um that's taken out of the other amount at the end the money that we do have that we use for officials and things like that is generally generated from remember there's a $25 participation fee so that fee typically is what covers the um Athletics and anything left over correct grade in that account we also use for uniforms when I come and ask and so we kind of pull from all those different accounts to cover uniforms because not one is singly enough you know the parents that I met with we talked about prices and they were thinking oh a uniform is going to cost 15 to 25 bucks for an entire set you're looking at the cheapest right now is about $80 to 90 for a cheap set and so they're like wow our $400 per person times what our companies were pitching in really cover it like they thought it would but using the other pools and the funds we have and with their help we think that we can by the end of the school year get at least those three Sports taken care of by the summer so it goes back to even if we've budgeted the money it's like what is the actual need right and we we go back to you know are we going to just deplete the money on Sports when we need to make sure that we can sustain our clubs and our tutorials every year so it's kind of is even though the money is [Music] allocated people allocate where they want that money to go but but we have very few people say school uniforms because tax credit yeah because tax credit is supposed to be for extra curricular activities when the tax credit it's it's 5050 50% of are going to come in for undesignated so they said just use it as you need it the other 50% come in ear Mark for music they come in for athletics for f so so it just so for like four special projects we could they you could tap into the undesignated balance also that's approved by the principal so if we really needed uniforms or whatever you know a club sponsor could propose it and we could get that funding for that so what what we want to start doing also and I um we talked to some of our club sponsors about developing a letter where students can start to make some calls or sending it out to family members or they can say support cross country um so that we can do y yada right to start to increase that tax um credit funds because a lot of people still don't know about it imagine if they knew about it what our what our fing our balance would be like the especially the Civics kids from DC so that they wouldn't have to do so so many fundraisers right to get there great you want to tap on this all right so within just the M budget um not including transportation we budgeted $5.1 million right right now 4.6 has been expended or it's either encumbered with $451,000 remaining so that means right now we've got $451,000 that we haven't allotted to something else within transportation we budgeted 484000 and we've already spent or encumbered 412 which gives us 71,000 left um now a good chunk of that 71,000 is going to be eaten up with diesel fuel within food service we budgeted 54,000 we've spent 300 with $214,000 remain um we recently also within Food Service just purchased a new um four burner uh cooktop and with that we have to redo our fire suppression system because it was only rated for a two burner so we have to get new fire suppression system put in and a big bigger tank put in as well so so and that's all in the works and when you say encumber say Transportation that's enough so when I go the rest of the year so when I say incumbered it's I budgeted $300,000 for salaries right I've only spent 120 yeah the balance is what's the incumber amount yeah the balance that you expect to spend between now now and the end of the year yes so when we talk about M and we look at that 400 51 remaining is are we saying that we're going to be taking the rest of the school year salaries out of that amount or that's already in budget in order to do raises that is where it would have to come out but current existing salaries are already bud yes the current existing salaries are in 5.1 yes I just want to make sure that everybody understands that so in capital we bud bu our our budget was 556 908 so far we spent $452 leaving us $104,000 left a big chunk of that um $186,000 of that is our bus payment on the expended yes would you say 186 186,000 and that's for the next we' got two and a half years three four years left this is year two yeah we have we're talking new buses right they're released to owns right yes so on the remain again it hasn't been encumbered it's just it's just sitting there waiting to be spent or rolled over for the upcoming okay and how much do you usually roll over within Capital with it being such a small amount to begin with we generally don't have a whole lot that gets rolled over we did spend a lot of money at the beginning of the school year on furniture with new tables new desks new chairs so we did spend quite a a good siiz chunk I want to say what 45,000 we did five classrooms worth of desks and chairs and I want to say two classrooms with tables so close to right around $45,000 is what we spent just in furniture so when you budgeted that money in ml you were expecting to pay that amount and then you didn't end up paying you have 41,000 left like why is there a large um balance so it's sitting in places like supplies there's there's excess sitting within um benefits so that once needs come come up so if I needed to add another teacher tomorrow I can pull that money and pay for a brand new teacher if Mr if something happened to our bus Fleep and Mr Lane couldn't didn't have any money left in transportation for fuel I can still pay for fuel out of M by moving some that remaining funding into transportation to purchase Visa and also so because we don't give raises in the summer for fall so we we've been asking our teachers to hold off until January to see where we are with ouro we use what we have remaining to determine the raise for the year because the the the minimum wage increase this year is 30 and a half% so we'll get to that so I went we went through and we kind of identify current needs based on what directors ask for what board questions um board is asking for clarification on so when we look at Transportation a book of the conversation has been that we need to give our drivers a raise so we have our bus driers starting at 14 we have 14 employees coded to Transportation the average salary is 1633 so the salaries range from $14 an hour to 2129 an hour so 2129 been there for forever yes so it's not like all of our drivers are at $14 right so the average salary is 1633 so that does not include the salary of our um trainer or director um we are between five andeven behind everybody else and just bus drivers but but to be fair what three years ago we were ahead of everything else so yeah so what's happened the last few years is now you've got compression within the transportation budget so everybody else so come January one you're going to have a playground monitor coming at the same rate as as a brand new bus driver where it used to be $2 to3 more to start um when I started five years ago we were $2 above Serita now we're almost $6 so the compression with the minimum wage everything changing we haven't made adjustments to starting salar with trans now and R was in the same boat so they were all low and then they weren't getting people to drive for both districts and so all of a sudden they jacked it up it wasn't enough they jacked it up again and very quickly we went from the top where everyone wanted to work to no longer the same are a to increase that all those numbers don't reflect do that have benefits medical that is just salary That's not including any benefit how many get three drivers are full time that are receiving benefits right now which translat fall apart how much 28% of whatever salary [Music] is as far as St can we go over Staffing or just who's the fact that so on on paper when you look at it Transportation staff positions are full but I have one one driver who was on IC and we're still in limbo and as far as what's going on with with that with that driver I have two drivers in training so technically there the spots are full but if the two drivers don't make it through training and they don't pass then we're back to the same position where we were trying to get drivers so with that um I was late to the meeting today because I'm driving so I'm driving every day Le I'm trying to keep lean to where he can take care of his main position but he's usually giving me one or two days uh Roxy and litaa are every single day still so they food service but the reason why you have you're driving or the driving is because we have drivers in train yes yeah and then I've got drivers who have recently passed but with commitments can't do certain days I have two drivers who we BR we we brought on who are both going to be pilots and their pilot training starts in March so that we go back into this thing and trying to figure out come come March again but right now it's getting a little bit of a breath but it still takes away getting it getting to work at 5:30 in the morning going home at 6 6:30 in the afternoon so it's it's getting and then you got l i mean then the Saving Grace would be late in an high salary um but you got L and Roxy Who as soon as they clock out from there have another hour and a half bus driving and that's an hour and a half overtime that goes into the budget which takes the money out there well so we're paying them overtime and so we could have a full-time person have their position and pay them more than 14 bucks an hour if they were available if we could find people yeah but if we were paying more than 14 bucks an hour we could probably find people have better yeah I got I get probably four phone calls a day from different different agencies different school districts of drivers asking they want to come work at Continental they want to come work at Continental but they can't take the pay that's that's their thing what are they expecting what have for them where I mean I got people from s who want to come over and work but I can't yeah I don't know what I 19 I think is I have friend who just started I mean I lost Drive the five five five drivers over summer break that were coming to us that ended up going to Serita Sunnyside Tucson and Bale and R and they all pay it's all pay like all that 20 bucks how much are we paying in over time that we could be I mean I know it's only hour and a half for that particular person a day that's time a half do you pay time and a half for overtime yes so and also the bigger need is looking at possibly having to do staggered start and dismissal times Elementary Middle School the buses are crowed we have a lot of discipline problems happening on the buses you have middle school kids that are influencing younger students we have just a lot going on and we're glad that we have um the cameras but really we're very fortunate that up to this point we've been able to transport all students during Sports it frees up a little bit more room on the buses Wednesdays were overloaded because we don't have sports on Wednesdays but we really have to look at that'll increase your budget for fuel and St needs also and having five six year olds on the same bus as 13 year olds I like the concept of separating themin right so we have to that's like we have to look at pros and cons right because what's I mean we're I think we're very fortunate that we haven't had more parents say no we do not want our elementary school kids on buses with these middle school students um when you look at bus footage it's really scary because you can't yes they're three they're they're squished in there the seats are high for safety it's hard to see what's going on so you know that's just something to think about because we are we are well over our hours in the number of hours that elementary school kids have to be in school typically it's 8 to two ours go till 3 so they're getting an hour more um so we just that'll just be that as we grow and we don't have drivers and we either you know we do turnaround routes where we kids have to wait so that's just something we're gonna have to monitor closely as well miss R if I can add to that she talked about a lot of the concerns that we have we have done things to minimize those behaviors so one of the things that we've done starting at the beginning of school year was add AG or programmatic assistance that are writing so that's super unique that most districts do not provide that is a sell Point that's why drivers want to come work for Continental School we've heard that of we hear that you have supervision on the buses as well because usually it's the drivers in charge of driving safely and all the discipline on the bus where we've been able to increase that um and that has greatly reduced the amount of behaviors this year compared to past year so we have seen a huge we are seeing some Behavior things on the bus and we can't have every single day the monitors ride because when they're out we don't have a subir etc and on those days seem to be the days that probably the last week and a half we've seen the problems that we've had in the office have been because I did because route five and six are doing both continental and high school so there's not an aid on the bus in the afternoon the last couple weeks has been much we had our it's literally the buses that don't have that second adult or the one with the issues but we have seen a huge decrease I believe in Transportation issues since having an additional adult writing and walking the aisles keeping people separated that kind stuff our monitors on that very amazing and obviously that's impacting our budget right but we in order to I you said it it eliminates the stress for the drivers I and it makes the kids know that somebody's watching them with not these eyes and correct me if I'm wrong but that took most of those staff members from about 37 hours um to just slightly under 40 So within a half an hour of 40 is is how we work that and we've worked with Mr Lane to schedule that so that they're not over getting overtime all of them are still at their regular salary but I bump them and they're appreciative too so these staff members that work there runs off to try to make thems meet and don't get paid a lot it's a couple extra hours we for them which is super helpful for them as well these are lunch monitors help as well we have one lunch monitor who comes back every day I have one lunch monit that's every day I have one lunch monitor that is Monday Wednesday Friday um and the rest are that's an hour and a half long one of those lunch monitors covers that because we couldn't take one of our full-time programmatic asss and put in there because they put over time so we've got cre with the scheduling but it's been a huge benefit and that that route was one of our biggest behavior issues in the even with the Aid We're still we still have she can't because that Aid can't be everywhere and then as soon as she notices she goes and fixes it but by that point it's just is that is there salary in the transportation salary or is that totally separate I mean that up there is just drivers just drivers and where do we that money which month for extra extra supervision well all that extra money that we had set aside to hire extra pair of Pros as the year went on you know it eats into all General M yeah because some of these Cora only one is being paid out of our spend budget so even their Chet programmatic assistance that be paid out of our general operation and for that one we specifically put them on a bus with a short route because the relationship they're building with one of the students they work with during the day we continue that relationship onto the bus route um because theyve built a really good report with this particular individual so it's kind of an extension of what they're doing throughout the day as well but it's also the shortest R which is which is good okay so that's our current need and our concern second one is maintenance and grounds so we have a need for additional support So as we look into the cost of an additional employee we're looking at 40,000 a part-time person 20,000 assuming that it's $16 an hour okay and we have one only one we have one person right now and um we're looking at the cost for contract contract help quarterly to have someone coming in two times per month so we're looking um seeking estimates from local landscaping companies in Green Valley just to see take birie does have they I forget what company they're using but they do have a company for the whole entire district and they pay $120,000 a year servicing five or six schools twice a week so we have a call out to um we called one company said they were not taking on any more people um Jenna left another message and then um Steve we talked about AA Landscaping no we it's a local family Local Company oh okay so s because I we have no idea what they would charge us to come help us twice a month in the grounds in the front and the sides so we're looking into that good I got so it was Sita and you have someone so you can just let me know okay so so um and we know with grounds alone I mean maintenance think about all the sfb projects that have been going up for maintaining the campus on leaks and things that break and having to be fixed and um responding during the day so I know that you know Mr marski is at his W's end in terms of trying to do grounds and maintenance um and a lot of them are high it's just difficult because you could almost have you know one full-time person two full-time grounds people and two full-time M People to maintain the needs of the school but we know that that's not possible um also this year I know that aside from pre- labor from the leens and the family you know we had Gary come out and helped what did Gary do he helped two days a week for originally when we were moving all the DK and chairs during the big summer push when we have to move classrooms we brought him in for a week to do that and then when he was done with that for the day Bob would take him for two to three hours and have them do um trim of the trees raking that sort of stuff outside and we agreed with Gary to do that for a week and then Bob asked for an additional week because it was so much B and asking can we have him come back but so we talked to Gary got him to come back for a second to do that but Steve was paying him out of his own pocket to college fund for help so do you see what I mean but it's like whatever it takes that's a prime example when we had the carnival we had our driver stay and volunteered that day to weed whack and clean up the front and the side so it's you know we had the day with the um e with the m Church coming in um to help but we definitely have to figure out either we get on a scheduled routine campus cleanliness Community Health that's what I was going to say you know I was part of the the church clean up and I was wondering you know can we do a call to the public when when they know that their church is going to be there I it kind of be beneficial for the school and the church to build that relationship to do a community day so they do their Community days though only right so then they try to spread the wealth as well we get it but so that's that's a need and a concern isn't that um kid that's Ran's age um me house wasn't his his n has started his own business it's called wild cat tree service but what he mainly does is the high Highline stuff okay like trimming the palm trees and stuff because I did think about we can give him a call I've got his number um but he also is bed out of Mirana okay forget it so I I have seen he's his girlfriend lives off road so he's down here every once a while but to my knowledge he's really focusing is his lure is for like it's very expensive because he's doing harnesses of in trees but we really don't have trees like that on our good thought I thought about that too but it's a little bit different what what does okay as we look at next me and concerned at our curriculum area so we talked um we've spoken about the ad and their unfunded mandates right so they mandated that we had to have a dyslexia screener that we had to have a trained um dyslexia expert on our campus teacher so we have one and we've added another one that's going to be going through the train um we did originally purchase amplify we spent $2,000 on that one um as a potential dyslexia screener and then we um piloted this other program through Amir which is a reading intervention and dyslexia screener so we just paid um almost $8,000 for that out of capital it's for our K3 students and our atrisk middle school students so we should be good with our dyslexia mandate from ad now we have every um our teachers have to have SE endorsements so we have 15 teachers that do not have sheltered English immersion endorsements so it's teachers who work with bilingual students or Spanish monolingual Spanish speaking students so now the state is requiring that everybody have an seci endorsement without funding giving us funding for it so ad had a um they approved some service providers so one provider that we contacted uh is would charge us $350 per teacher so if we had those 15 teachers trained it would be $5,000 um sunyside isn't approved they got their curriculum approved um to train their teachers so I've been talking to them about possibly doing anou and doing a 2500 to 3,000 flat rate where all the 15 teachers could go through their program the problem with that is what do you do if teachers don't want to take the courses like we were saying there's they have to we can pay for the training but they have to pay to get the seci endorsement on their certificate which is what $65 $60 $60 to get that endorsement added to their certificate but you have to have an SE endorsement if you're going to be teaching monal Spanish speaking students half of the teachers don't want to teach the mon Spanish speaking students so you have some teachers saying well if I don't have the endorsement then I don't have to teach those students right and the SE training the sheltered English immersion training really is best practices it's engagement strategies it's differentiating the instruction which is good for all students not just how long is it they're looking at I think sunnyside's doing um three Saturdays four three four hour or two Saturdays and it's 4 hour days plus they have homework in modules it's 45 hours okay that they need total so some of it is in person and some of it can be instruction with homework with the facilitators collecting one are the continued education do they do on top of the5 a year to keep up their LIC they have to do um normal professional developments at the end of the isn't it three years they have to submit so many hours that they've completed um for that this kind of be the same thing I mean I know but this is not I mean the school make it I mean are you going to give them the option to do it or not do it well we they're not we have to have a plan so as long as we have a plan that we submit to the state that says this is our plan to get these 15 teachers certified and we also have to make sure that incoming teachers have seci endorsements as well um but as you know we have teachers who are on emergency certificates who I mean they need so much more than just an SII course to get their certifications of to part how many teachers do we have on the emergency probably about five or six W that's a lot and roughly how many students are we talking about that they're serving for El kids I mean 17 19 El kids on Nina's roster about 25 25 but keep in mind most of those kids when we made their schedule boss and I we intentionally try to put as many of them with those teachers that are our SEI certified it's not 100% because the state does allow some leniencies as they're provisional and they're working on getting it we have to have a plan according to the state and that's what we've been working with we talked about the two options there we've talked to the state and they consider that a plan so once we approve that plan we're we're so what am I missing here you've got roughly 25 kids and you've got 15 teachers that need because it's all various ages is that why yeah because they're all different ages and they're in different class two of this age yes so they're sprinkles across the school some in middle school and all the teachers so all teachers need to have that se endorsement so so when you said that some of them don't want to get that endorsement they don't have a choice well they don't have so it goes back to that concept well what what's going to change if we don't are we fire them because there's a teacher shortage we can't even get certified teachers to come in right required we haven't had anyone at our site that has said that that's a thing across the state but at our site no one has told us there's been no teacher that's come up and said I don't want that kid I'm not I want to be very clear with that yeah we have there's assumptions that some people may think there's assumptions people may think that no not our teach but I don't think that we've actually talk to these 15 teachers to say you need to have an SE endorsement this is the plan this is what we're proposing to help you get so I'm just thinking budget wise what we need to pay for because we did have a conversation where teachers some teachers are going to have to would like Greg's dream wish would be teachers pay their own $350 to be trained well that's not going to happen but it's a mandate when it's a state mandate I just want this is the conversation we had because if it's required for you to teach like when teachers have to take the Arizona Constitution or the US History we don't pay for that they pay for it and they need it in order to get their teaching certificate so it's a little bit different because these are already teachers that are teaching other field has to pay for their own and I mean I'm not saying I want to pay for it I'm just kind of Bing sus I kind of see his point too because most professions you do pay for your own but as the state comes and is making up all these rules now you need gifted endorsement now you need dyslexia you know expertise now you need the dyslexia screener now you need to have an seci endorsement now look at the bottom one all teachers are going to be required to have a reading endorsement by 2025 so I don't even know how many teachers I don't think we have that many that have reading endorsements but that's a whole other thing we're going to have to plan for and think about in the future so when I said for also well they're probably going to do what no so here's something to to think about when we went to the pelat training or conference which was the conference for English Learners um it was done by ad when they went over title 3 funding with us I brought up if title refunding could be utilized since it's a state mandate for teachers could it be used when it's released to pay for the trainers or these trainings and they said no because it's a mandate for public schools to fund so it need that we couldn't use title three funds are also only $300 but I just wanted to say more no there's some people that so some districts so then they said but don't get upset the charter schools can use the title ref funds to use it towards getting their teacher trained because they don't have the same mandates from the state the reason that they have to be sebi endorsed a lot of our programs when we were going to school like when I went back to school it it all automatically the class is attached to the program there's a lot of programs now that people are starting and they're not that's not attached that's not classes that are in the program so then they have to go back and get it completed and done when you're working with English language learner students the state has different models it's pull out and integrated integrated means that it's done within the classroom by the teacher and in order to have an integrated model you have to be ACI endorsed but the state has told us if you have a plan to move forward with it which we're working on a plan um they can be meeting the minutes in their classrooms as well so it's not just these pullouts all day with those students so the endorsement therefore there were many people before I think I went to school that started my program that weren't getting SE endorsed and then there was a chunk of time where programs were including that within the program and now recently they're not anymore so we have people that have it and people who don't it but the state says they need Happ mine was like a like a one day class at p and they said here you go you're endorsed now I still have to pay for it and things like that give us your money and but that was also 19 years ago I I haven't looked it it's on so remember when I said that in title 2 we had $3,000 I had budgeted for saladita PD that we're not using so sunnyside's going to start another cohort in January for spring so when we propose this and we have the theou the memorandum of understanding where we can take advantage of that then that's where would use that money from title two but moving forward also title two we have about 5,000 available for the next couple of years after the salaries to use for the reading endorsements and the continued SE endorsement plan and Greg I didn't mean like that you didn't want to do it but no you were right you I don't want to but that's that's questions right that we have to say if we're going to mandate but yet you know we we just keep sucking blood out of the turnup and when if teachers aren't getting could you imagine if teachers don't get a raise but we're saying you have to pay for your own sebi endorsement and your own reading endorsement so there and so when you look there middle school science curriculum I'm sorry so we have a need for middle school science curriculum so F kid just for middle school as we look at it would be 8500 out of capital um so we have to think about do we phase it in and buy half of the kits this year and pay the other half next year or how do we prioritize also what middle school science needs that's not even tapping into Elementary science yet Good Times needs and concerns for technology and infrastructure Joe do you want to yes touch on this please um so this is broken into four parts we have large Pro projects one that we're finishing up that's that's uh connected to the network infrastructure upgrade um this this year is the wireless access point configuration um we're almost done with that there's there's a little pick up with the middle school that we're working at um next next year to completely finish that project um the third item under large projects and I don't I don't have a quote for for these three pieces yet um but uh we we need to uh get the network switches uh configured and connected so that's the last part of of that uh that larger project that um that was started at the beginning of last year we should should be all set with our Network for um for a while um next next year I'd also like to look at um uh replacing our access control system with something that's a little bit more reliable we have uh several doors that keep um or several points that that keep failing we're having issues with our GES um every every year during Monon um every year during monsoon season uh those motherboards on the gates go out and um it's uh our our best option is to just kind of wait until the lightning stops to replace those mothers they just it just kills them um our we've had a problem with um and I I don't want to be specific about which doors but we we have issues with several of our doors on campus um that uh have have been ongoing so that's something i' like to look at next year intercom intercom system replacement um depending on where you are on campus the speakers are either really louder than quiet there's two uh some of the older speakers have volume controls on on the device themselves but for the overall system there's there's only uh uh two two volume controls and it's for it's kind of silly it's their stereo volume control so it's for left and for right but it's a it's not a stereo system it's system so don't really know why there's two um yeah depending on where you are when I when I turned them down some of those features were they couldn't hear here at all um so that's something I'd like to take a look at um just to go back to the network switch configuration um that where we're hoping that can be an e project for next year is that correct yes um so uh that's where we'll we'll get funding for that um okay other other items these are uh not you know these are larger ticket items so not things like document cameras uh CES things like that um but uh our devices continue continue to be kind of a regular expense um and we're with the student student Chromebooks now we're in a cycle where we're not we're not trying to um we're not trying to furnish every single student uh with device and get us to the point where we're one to one but we're trying to maintain um there we're we're coming up into two problems one the the the break rate um we we're losing probably one to two student devices a week just through accidents accidents um the other issue we have is the the the lifespan of the software of these devices that ranges six six to eight years so we kind of been a weird situation now where eight years ago um depending on the year we sometimes we bought large chunks of student devices we got small members of student devices so when they age out we can't use them anymore because they're no longer receiving security updates so whether or not they work we have to replace them and if it's if we're coming up to a year like this year is going to be one of those years where um we have uh 200 Chromebooks that that age out we have will have to replace those last last year we had a smaller number um this this year uh we kind of the final final steps to purchase 46 new student Chromebooks um and what what fun we use for that the ECF that's um emergency connectivity fund okay so those those should be coming uh within the next couple weeks um I'd like to place an order for 10 repl new teacher laptops um right right now we have uh four older devices that mostly work if somebody um next next year I'd like to oh if we if depending on what happens with classrooms if we add add an additional teacher we'll need to get another uh at at least one more view Sonic I'd like to get two so that the library in the boardroom can stop sharing um and they're rough with the wireless card and with the stand they're rough roughly $4,000 a piece um uh next next year um again because about eight years ago we had we placed a large order for Chromebooks um I I'd like to order 120 um and that that price is based off of the price that we were quoted for the 46 um last last year we were able to purchase Chromebooks didn't we get we purchased 75 Chromebooks last year for what we get 46 for this year yeah so last year each an individual Chromebook we can get for $150 the 46 are around 230 pce and we we could we could go cheaper we could go refurbished um but the problem with those is that you're the the life span of the software is Shor so if you get a refurbished computer Chromebook it may only last two years um and once it's gone it's gone um uh five repl uh admin laptops I don't um I don't know when when we got the touch screens but do do you remember supero year no they've been around that was that your first computer that the touch screen is the first computer so and you think you're six years okay so your laptop is at least six years old it's ready to die um we we have three left yeah we have three left um um and one of them is has received very low mileage um the the desktop the desktop computers uh for District staff I don't know precisely how old they are but I I do believe that Dr Jeter was the first superintendent to use the desktop that I just pulled out of mrs's office so we what is that 9 years ago 100 she was 11 years ago so there our our district Wing is operating on the oldest computers on campus and they're working like a chel every Greg you need a new computer Greg need a new computer So What by the money he can't do his what we what we can't do I've spoken um I've spoken to the the the admin team about this for for users who well we have two options uh right now most of our our District staff has has two devices most of our administrative staff have two devices have desktop and their laptop um we can we we can just issue a laptop that they can connect to peripherals so that that that can save us a little bit of money um but um it's there's an inconvenience that's it we have it's a doing station one plug both monitors come in keyboard works it's that's it a so keep in mind that with the initial roll out of the Chromebooks we had a lot of support from the community remember when we had the AA w w women who donated money to help us do our last phase of K1 so a lot of the money did come from outside um support we use some I believe we used some of the white elephant money for Crow books at separate times so remind me the list of things you can use tax credit money for other than just Sports and clubs anything that's extracurricular extracurricular so field trips for sports clubs tutorials not and there's a set of rules that go with that they're supposed to have charge a fee like a student fee so likef club for example charges I think $5 obviously that doesn't pay for us to go do that but what it allows is for them to access the tax credit for that um it can't be for a grade it can't be something that's mandatory we can't buy basketballs for the basketball team and then have them used during to those guidelines they have to be used for that after school activity so you can't make every student a member of the after school laptop club we have a technology Club sir rame it technically they shouldn't use that during the academic time obviously would never been audited for that because every school I'm just trying to find a creative use of yes how much do they use these Chromebooks in class A Lot constantly book it is their it is it is for sure their key educational tool we do believe in using other additional things why we still have a library with real books and one of one of the things that we started doing within within the last two years with the addition of the instructional Tech position is that L lordis and I last year um we're we're now repairing devices whereas in the past we didn't have someone who could do that um now Lis is actually pulling the LED module out of these end of life devices and putting them into newer devices but the the newer devices are are less um the components are less compatible so the the keyboards specifically are are kind of a sticky point but um she's we're we're able to save some money just by simp and the Administration stuff The District staff computers and laptops that's what brand or it doesn't matter whoever gets the best deal what flavor yeah HP and lenov um yeah but the last set of laptops I think were Lova touch SC oh no it's an Acer Acer so the five replacement desktop go with the five replacement Administration laptops so it would be 10 advices right so it's for five administrators Administration for five no it wouldn't be for five and some so some would some have working laptops now um they wouldn't go to just five people they go to two so for for example should I yeah go ahead you me Mr Mr schuber uh requires a laptop and a desktop so he he'd have two Mrs Rico Mrs quas they'll just be on a laptop um and their their devices are are um are still powerful they still work but we we have three of I think six left so um you know assuming nobody has any accidents they'll they'll still be able to work for a couple more years it's just you know accidents happen do we have insurance on these not tops for students no not for uh for students like they break them they don't have insurance they do have a limited warranty so when a kid drops it a cracks a screen that's not get covered but if all of a sudden the keyboard quits working and there's no damage done then that's Mr fuson correct me I'm wrong but that typically is at the parents expense for the I don't know if we sent that contracts we used to yes we s out the contract the technology there was there's an insurance option for them in there but the parents are responsible for paying that most parents don't what happens if the kid breaks it keep in mind there's different breaks right so if the kid sitting there doing his work all of a sudden his computer stops working because it's old should the kids and the parents have to replace that the answer is no Mr Ferguson and his team gets them a replacement now if it gets sent to me because the kid was playing one of the games that he shouldn't be playing in class and punches the computer screen which Canon does happen um then we go to the parents and say it's your responsibility to replace this your child will not get a needed textbook essentially until they do that Mr Greg I go to him tpes up a bill we send parents and does it get paid or no we receive one that was paid and that's only because we made a deal with the parents where they could pay half and the kid had work if you're if you're when you say insurance policy if you're so some some schools will offer an insurance policy at the beginning of the year um that that's something that we used to offer uh we we stopped I think we stopped doing that maybe four or five years ago that's not not something we've done I'm not opposed to it I just haven't the contract last but if you're if you're referring to insurance on the itself there's all types of different things that could happen the laptop you could leave it on the roof of your vehicle and drive off with it there's multiple things that [Music] can is that on aam not I I was using that as as a hypo if some people in this room felt guilty about run over or anything I didn't say you did I didn't say you okay so for the sake of time we do have to move along um here looking at potential raises where we talked about what that would cost us and our M so our scenarios if we gave a 2% to salary and employees and 3.5 to hourly employees it would be 125,000 cost to the dist District if we gave a 3.5 for all employees would be 172 if we did a 4% % for all employees it would be 195 last year we gave that everybody a what was the percentage seven a big one we did seven seven and the year before five five and the year before was that where we were at four again three two and a half or okay so just so you know um Sarita gave did they do 4% I think every most of the superintendents did 4% this year prior to teacher signing their contracts so just so you well the $200,000 question is what can we so I mean what what can we do well that goes back to what we have so when you go back to that first page and you see that amount that's remained understood I want to clarify that amount should be what we have come Mark normally that's about how much we would have left in March so my also so humble opinion would to be just do the three and a half% to the allies and then look at trying to do something with an increase at the beginning of the year that we can have a budgeted for and I know I'm completely 100% against that because we do have minimum wage increases that happen in January but if we did something for the possibly upcoming school year that's where my suggestion would be simply because where we are at now with unincumbered funds is where we should be in March where we are now is where we should be in March correct so in January the minimum wage is going up right minimum wage is going up three and a half% so there's you've got pay that I have to pay that but I would only have to pay that to those that are below okay and that by doing that that nothing with the compression in the pay scale that's one thing we need to work is compression is the compression of the P so that's why I would say all hour at the three and a half% which that would be my suggestion so what could happen is when we think about teachers who have left who left to saita or left to different districts because they were getting that signing bonus plus their raises plus whatever else they were offering them and you know we had teachers signing in good faith that they were banking on for in in January so when we look at if we don't do something and then in the summer we say we're going to budget for next year or fall I don't know how many teachers we're going to have that are going to say well we are going to go go because we didn't get our raise in January even with our three we came in January so are we competitive with Z or not not with their not with their signing bonuses and their um the the return the signing bonuses and their um retention what about 301 that didn't balance so 301 we're absolutely comped with 301 they're receiving this year less than what they have received in the last no they're receiving more this year what are they 12 13,000,000 301 no we actually well so this year we receive more money but we have more people to spread it out across so it's not it's not a fair statement to say that we got more money so teacher should get more versus 28 last so last year we gave him a 7% they're not expecting a 7% again are they no no because we've been telling them where that our budget so how do we have so much more money last year we don't have any this year one of the big things is with last year we had all that money that was encumbered with Serena with the tuition payment that was yes so there was an additional $400,000 that once we finally paid that it went back into our budget see that's where I when Chris aely said we were negative 500,000 that's probably that money that when he was talking about that at the board meeting because thought we were out 500,000 and that's probably what he meant that we're not going to be popping that money of the difference I was trying to figure out where that I I knew I heard him say that yeah I wrote it down so we had budgeted $2.2 million in um tuition payments and we paid out 1.9 so that balance went right back into our budget okay so um just a few things before our final exercise before we get our food for moving forward um Greg do you want to on this so it's we talked about this time last year about going out early for the override um it's now that time to start thinking about it again for the November election of next year I thought I thought we we wait a year this nov okay so next month is that way so we're talking next November um currently we have a 14% override with our ml budget um whenever the voters approve it it's a sevene it's a it's good for seven years after five years it starts to decrease by a third until it's done um the override that we passed in November of 20 took place in J it's effect of July 21 so we're on that cusp of being able to have two rounds of approvals before we can have to start reducing so if we do it next year November 2024 and it doesn't pass we have the following election to try to get it passed before we have to start cutting the third because it did fail by one vote before this so with bonds um right right now our current bonding capacity how much we can actually go out for getting a bond we we can go out for up to 44.4 million um one of the things and I don't know how vers everybody is on on bonds but when you put together your pamphlet you have to be specific as to what you're going to be using the bond money for and when I say specific it doesn't need to get down to the level specificity of we're buying 500 Lenovo laptops it is we're spending the money on technology IE laptops desktops um most most fonds put out for buildings but that's but that's I'm just using that as an example um if you're going out to to build a building you need to say that you have the land at this location we're going to build a a school that will house K through three so it just has to have some level specificity the voters go out to to see it and what are we want to allocate that money for right now this is just a conversation okay just wanting you to know where we stand in terms of funds so as we're looking at growth and having to determine land at the bottom of the hill like we've talked about or the land beside us uh on what we're going to do we are outgrowing our schools so we need to start to be thinking about since we have several new board members and I have a presentation can I just give the 30 second really brief of where our state of our physical campus is um so we're doing okay on classrooms but you've noticed we started in kindergarten we've gotten four teachers we used to have an empty classroom for each grade level and because the original building they actually we have the plan and did not build out the special education building in that plan was taken off because of many different reasons that most of us don't know because we weren't administrators at the time um but there was change of this change of that it cost money and they didn't have money at the end of the project to finish the last building which was the special education So currently what's happening is all of our special education teachers are in rooms that were originally designed and built for regular education classrooms the problem that we're having is as you already know we're starting to grow out we also have Specialists our reading Specialists um our our MTH Specialists our counselors are in regular education classrooms because the building that was built supposed to have all these offices and rooms for those Services never got built so what you're going to see and we've seen it already is we're starting to push people out of the Kinder po now out of the first grade one next year our counselor will have to move if we keep up with the current trend of adding a teacher a year we don't know we always go off with numbers based off of what our student population is doing but what we're watching is every year we're growing by one so next year we have to figure out where the counselor goes then the year after that it's fed resource in the third because our elementary special education teachers there then you go into math coach math coach and then you go into the reading so all these people have to shift right we our middle school counselor is technically in a CL right so these are things that we are growing very very quickly and I've talked about this for years and our presed plans we also talked Elementary doesn't have a proper gymnasium things of that nature um so there is Need for concern not necessarily yes at some point we're probably going to have to build two elementary schools in our in our district as things grow if things continue to grow because right they said oh well there's no more room to build we build out but then Fico has already told us eventually Orchards will all be houses so when that happens we will need we will need in 15 years according to Mayor Murphy we will need another Elementary School potentially school as well to support us and not to mention at some point become a unified school district which is required to become a high school um and we've talked about there's about 20 acres is it 20 acres true or 30 that's just to the east of the school BLM that we can buy for pennies on the dollar um that's set aside thanks to Mr mcg's father um for educational purposes only so we don't own that but there's potential that that has to be for public education um so that's where we think a high school would sit very well because then you can use the district and use sources of the kitchens right there the transportation also so there there's some benefit there um so in my opinion the one thing that we can't keep being blind about is we do not have a place to expand for our special education students in our classrooms because our regular education classrooms are going to keep being filled up and we're just running out of space that way and that's supposed to go where the tether ball poles are and the sidewalk going down the library that's supposed to sit right there we can still make that available and and do that but in my opinion if we looked at a bond it would be to make sure that we can continue going for the next five to eight years um in the growth pattern that we have so that we can fill that out eventually you're going to see the growth in the elementary hit to Middle School right well you have Elementary specialists in Middle School classrooms so PE and music are in the middle school so those rooms eventually would have to be cleaned out so when we do that we've talked about different plans of um redoing half the bus barn and putting a gym up there so that the PD teacher move there that gives you two classrooms in the Middle School um which is a common thing we're seeing that in alter Valley has something like that they're actually pretty nice facilities um so there are some plans I have a great presentation if the two of you want to see it sometime let me know that everybody else has seen it several years in a row so we spared it today but I do have that where we can that money dollar amount how many students do we have right now no it's I call it just shy of seven 630 correct me if I'm wrong the State Board facilities board won't talk to us until we hit our 800 is that correct they won't hit they won't talk until we capacity which according to them around 1200 students yes so if we for yeah that's that's that's correct so according to them they would like to see about 32 students in each of our Elementary classrooms Greg is the that we did with that um to us we can't wait for that that just doesn't work yeah but also what doesn't work is a n or 10% Bond loan to the school district to me that sounds like a fin suicide and that's that's unfortunate it is what it is what our capacity is just because we can go out for $44 million doesn't mean that we need to abolutely we would only go out for what we feel our voters can absorb as far as a tax increase and and what we there's that but there's also what we have to have to continue functioning that's why I'm talking very small scale I'm not talking building at the bottom of the hill yet I'm talking like we know that we've got this problem IND in three to four years that we're not going to be created like we have them so I've got some plans to get us through the next three to four which is you take one classroom and put all your your coaches in one put dividers up we're going to make that happen right in the fifth grade pod but eventually you're going to get to that fifth grade pod and then where do they go and where in the meantime where's all all the special education students going we can't just put up tents outside and expect that a reasonable the good news is is there's a chunk of land about 300 yard from us right now across the yes sir that belongs to the school that if we decide that it's not our thing it's a it's a chunk of money that this District could use for a potential to avoid tapping into a 44.4 million but it's also if if you think about it I mean there things that you could do with that plot of land over you could you could build build preschool and use the current that current area as your SP are so I mean that's I agree but you're also you're also have to keep in mind that the BLM option is literally I mean we could come up with enough cash in our wallet right now to buy that as a school district it's next to nothing um when you have some very valuable land here you convert if you got creative doing something up there may not be ideal I get that but I don't I hope we but I just I cring thought of borrowing a pending at this point the other thing I consider with that too is I want to say it's three acres that often times goes unnoticed and unmentioned that the district owns just to the south of the school so our our School boundaries is a square which actually crosses across the road and encompass is there we talked at one time about building preschool on the other side across the street from the school or even a district office in that cre AG so there is that that space some options without going too far in because M Rico is GNA tell me it's timeat I'm okay with that we've also talked about moving preschool out of there making that the special education room because they do have change room for extra bathrooms changing station they do already have the playground with the gate it would make a fantastic special um facility but then we have to think about where well we have to build something somewhere right so then you can build preschool um either across the street or down at this location or acquire the land above and put the preschool up in that area so there's there's options there's no set thing there right these are just like I said I have a PowerPoint with lots of options pictures diagrams that we can look at at some point those are some of those things just feel free to make that together or IND just as an FYI that BLM that land is available at a cost that would be cheaper than the laptops on the screen I said Pennies on the dollares on the pennies only only for school only but that was put in place for that so that could happen it's it's so cheap and blow your mind but it we have to get creative it doesn't expire the only only potential is another it would have to be another school it has to be for Education knows about it so come so the problem I don't that really can't happen because Ser can't buy it out of their jurisdiction and so I'm more worried about charter schools and things of that nature yeah I don't there's there's lots of people looking I to my knowledge and I shouldn't even say it because I don't know I believe that it was done for public education but I don't know that we'd have to look at the what it was allocated for and all that sort of stuff really honestly at this point the reason why none of us know is it's kind of an attorney thing at this point mov forward to acquire that it's not like we show up and say you know we're g we're eight admin laptops and we're going to buy the proper it was done as a vision about 40 years ago 40 years agow as a just in case so there's no guarantees in that AC there I want to be clear on that there's a lot of unknown territory we are aware of that thanks to Mr MC who brought that to all of our attention um but so we definitely need to look into that as an option but like I said there's there is some things not that I'm trying to displace preschool but preschool parent pickup drop off in the middle of our normal campus it does post some challenges not only for us but for them as well so by moving them to a different location could benefit everybody as well so there's just there's different things that and this is the first time sorry I'm bringing this onong you you've heard it Jenny Dr W has heard about this time and time again so there's there's just different things to play around that's not the main purpose of our meeting was November 2nd of 201 not that long are you sure yes because I have to follow report every every year and there's still $8.4 million standing to pay on it um and then I just want to share some of the concerns with the override committee members um that have shared is that they were concerned with this tax increase if it was going to affect our um our override opportunity so the state legislature what's her name from the state presented a meeting I was at last week or and that was the first thing she said they got the letter her mwan and our other representative K Griffin kale Griffin I talked about as well yeah she said that is the first thing they're going to do when the legislator gets back together it's already organized it's ready to go and she did say well you know it was out there for a year before it got approved okay fix it is that your job so she is she they I mean boom she she answered that right out so we just need to think about it because if we decide then we need to get board approval by DEC January the override the override is such a long process so it's generally something that you would start off in January so it would take about 9 10 months so but we're saying we would have to bring it to the board for December I think so that we could start to work on committee is sitting here so we would have to decide next meeting yes action item you guys okay good so now on the next slide and you have these are just the things that we've done with the school facilities board that we said we would just put in in a document so you could see so current SFP expenditures since fy21 349,000 with an estimated you can say number huh $3 million okay is that right 3 million to complete her projects yes but that's not out of our no that's just the security cameras is $15,000 didn't you new routers and stuff to go with that for yourist so what I need you all to do between now and dinner we're g to get dinner there but what I want you to do is with your little potit you don't even have to put your names on them the green one is for the priority you see the chart there say Transportation maintenance curriculum um technology and staff raises you don't have to put your name on these I just want you when we go to get your food or let however you want to do it if you don't anybody see you put your poits on the green one is going to go on what you feel is the most important thing that we need to address in order to meet our needs and our concerns you have two orange ones for your second and third choice and then you have a yellow for your two fourth and five fourth and fifth choices so the green is what is your priority right now the next two you see there are medium priority is orange less of a priority is yellow so as we go out if you want to some of us can go out and get our lunch served and you put them up before we finish lunch dinner we will have dinner at 6:07 we'll come back in here at 6:25 so we can wrap up and everybody's post it should be up by the time we come back okay yes okay and the diamond back score who knows Z I've got I'm at the bottom of the z z they got got two hits two hits okay I got it right there all right so some of us need to go start to ser obviously in transportation and in staff raises and I should have explained before when we talk about transportation and those raises that would mean that we're solely trying to increase Transportation driving Sal driver salaries to make them competitive to our neighboring schools I just want to make sure that neighboring districts that that's what everybody gathered but we will continue to look at I took a picture of the chart so we'll have it to kind of sit down with our um with Greg and with our team to really try to see what's doable right if we do the staff raises where you can see there's a lot of greens and oranges so and maintenance in grounds also has a lot of orange and green and also with the transportation and the drivers so um we will continue to look at what it looks like for stack raises I think the most important thing is going to have to be truly if we don't do some sort of raise what are the implications going to be for us for next year and teacher retention and trying to keep our our teachers with us because our neighboring districts will be offering another 4% raise and then our teachers will say well we haven't received you know they they be minus 8% so um and Steve I know that we have a lot of feedback too in terms of teachers their nearing us of signing the contract cont S without knowing whether there's going to be a raise or not because it says on their contracts that raises will be contingent upon funds and given in January so we've done is this year the last two years three years we've done January raises not not August raises and so we we're building trust in it what the teachers tell us every year is we can't trust admin to actually do those raises and they don't really know but they're already halfway you know they're already halfway into a contract so it is challenging but it's one of those things that there's a logical reason why and we understand why and Greg explains that to them every year um but it still is you know you're working half a year on in their minds this last year's contract but not really our contracts officially right or January on is the way and it's different for us but it makes sense because we know we have that money when we offer raise unlike other districts that offer raises that don't actually know what they're underline is um and when we try to throw in the 301 monies into the raise they teachers get upset because that's not what the money is intended for to be do the other schools do that I mean every school has to you have to have a percentage of 301 I know my question was when they say the 301 money is in their base salary though no what they what they try to say is like this is your base salary plus your1 money plus the benefits we pay you so you're earning this much money so it looks like it's a lot of money but it's really not and we don't lay it out that way well we have we had to last we did we have to lay it out for them in terms of what we pay so here's the other thing if we cap what we pay because we been paying 10 to 15% increases in Insurance in medical insurance so if we cap that and say you have to if we get you know we have to get pay 15% more this year we're only going to pay what we paid this year but we're going to give you you know we we can't not give raises and cap Insurance because that'll kill us right we either have to give a raise and say we're capping medical or we're gonna keep paying medical and not give a raise the argument there is some people don't use our medical right right now it's 575 a month so it's seven Grand a year cheap roughly yeah and plus anybody that has our um by deductible health plan with the health savings account we Dro 1,200 get another 12200 we put $1,200 every year into their health savings account how's that compared S I have no idea I believe they don't pay um completely for um the employees medical insurance is just partial but I don't know the percentage I think that's pretty rare these days it is it is very rare and all the people that I talked to were the only District that I know left that pays a 100% of the healthare everybody else pays percentages and those percentages range from like 80% all the way down to basically nothing so it really just depends that drives me crazy just IGN the employee but then obviously if you had your children and your spouses it goes up the people that we interview drew that we sell that to They Don't Really ignore it there's some different factors right so if I'm coming in and my spouse works for border of Patrol that it's a nonissue it's a nonissue so and they're like well can you take that into consideration of what you would pay for my insurance can you pay well no we can't do that so right now I'm having to try to sell everything so when I have that conversation I said well um we do have 301 money and we offer 98% of our 301 money which most districts don't because they tied into other areas because they're legally allowed to we we at Al um almost all of our 301 money goes directly back to the teachers and so the number that Christin gives us is basically a minimum of $55,000 additional to the salary so we do sell it because we have to because otherwise you compare it to any other school and we're far below when you put that 301 5000 we're right there with s okay but here's the caveat we also sell from some years we get more than 5,000 for example we had one year they got $14,000 for 301 two years ago two years ago that's huge the teachers were so happy right this year is going to be a pretty good good year TR grade so but that 30 one money that the district gets is a m Target so we can't say you will get $144,000 additional to your salary we we have to throw out a number of the for HR is that 5,000 and we are able to get teachers here off of that but what is that it's a bunch of promises they have to trust us and they don't even know us we're interviewing them we just offer them a job and they have to trust us from day one that we're going to fulfill our promises and although their contract says this which really doesn't go into effect until January one you see the problem it's the the one of the reasons 301 is so wavy and up and down it's because it's tied to the grazing fees that I pay as a Rancher go straight into the state trust land system you more cost no but but that's based on the number of cattle that are Grazing In the state of Arizona if it doesn't rain they sell cattle the fees collected are lower the fees distributed in 301 are lower it's just that simple so that's why it's so up and down because it's directly tied to another industry which happens to be agriculture which very few people know that but that's where the money comes from it comes from State trust fund specifically for that reason so that's one of the reasons why it's so up and down because that's what agriculture is up and down get when you eat more chicken you don't get 301 but chicken's cheaper get what you pay for so again I just we will do a similar this similar presentation to teachers because it is important that they understand like you all that we do know what the concerns are we do know know what the need is but again we have we're Limited in the amount of money that we have and how we have to prioritize what we can do so from this will come a specific plan for each department in terms of how we're going to um continue to address the needs that we've all identified together and as we get the quotes from the estimates of what grounds can help or looking at a part-time person or looking at driver Stephen your your conversation about only getting Transportation driver raises and not everybody across the board oh I'm all for driers getting raises but I think if you said there in my group that whole group coming from where the background I came from that's why I said it if you if you tell the entire staff that only 14 people are getting a raise out of all the money that's available I think you're going to have an all out War I think you're going to downright just going to you're not going to have teachers coming back next year that's where I'm sitting from from a labor un standpoint that's where I think that's just going to be an ugly situation so I would ask you a followup question of that so why didn't that happen at Sero why didn't that happen at TD why didn't that happen at Rio Rico it's because everyone understands a bus driver has to have a CDL they are a certified employee not a classified because they have to have aert which is why they get paid more and so that I I'm just saying it's happening and Serita is still there and they have drivers coming to their left and right so I I get your concerns but we also have to there's a supply and demand and we are in demand we're in demand so you're gonna pay more and I've even thought about this m Rico you talk about that right what if she gave that same speech to our whole staff and how different would this look like instead of us I think they see how un overworked Bob is and how he's constantly trying I think you would see similar where they would do that I think when you present with the facts that our drivers get paid $5 less than any other employee our paros don't get paid $5 less than any other District what I'm saying now is the paos now make what a driver makes that's where I'm but how do you come up with trying to get our department up to without making everybody else angry that's what I don't know and this is transparent right being transparent and having these conversations I'm all for the drivers making more I'm not saying I want my drivers make but so okay so we we I have a picture of this we're going to redo it with staff we as we number crunch what we have with our budget will have to be making a decision by December in terms of raises on what we're going to allocate so we have homework to do in terms of what we need to purchase out of what funds for right now um another thing is I gave you our letter grate I wanted uh you as board members to see the letter that went out um when our November newsletter it's going to be going out and then uh just kind of a recap of the numbers so that we can um have more discussion with this I'll be presenting it at our next board meeting but I wanted you to have it up front just so you can start to understand the numbers a little bit today we SP with teachers when you look at percent proficiency and stability that's where we need to keep our proficient kids proficient and then our kids are showing growth but not enough growth to go from minimally proficient to partially and partially to proficient okay so there there's growth but not we need we need more growth so we'll be sharing our plan at our next board meeting with all of you and I'll be explaining to the public in terms of how some of these points bear out okay so we are a be and also in closing I want all of you to please take this and as we talked about the hard work and being a team it truly is about um attitude right so we can't do it with bad attitudes we can't do it with deist attitude we have to continue to be optimistic and we have to be able to um continue to work with each other straight and oh okay so what I want you to do is just take this food for thought leadership team we'll be having a discussion about this at our next leadership team meeting so I want you to take the survey and just kind of check you know we all always have to check ourselves on on where we are because we all have room for growth and we all um can be better and we got to work in Synergy together um in order to be better to move from good to great because we already have a really really good team so we are working on becoming an even better team so just look at that at our next um board meeting in November we would like you to do a self evaluation as board members um I read it by speed and um we'll email you the link for our board members so you can reflect and we'll have a study session prior to our November board meeting it'll be a a study session to discuss where we are as a board and we can have a little bit of discussion in terms of the attitude tomorrow no week from yesterday the next no our next board meeting is two weeks from yesterday yes okay so with that thank you so much for your attention and your time today and team for stay appreciate it and I hope we have a little bit more clarices anything else no just thank you guys all for coming we appreciate and P attention detention for you TR to say thank you guys for coming all your hard work I know we all go you guys all go the extra level we wouldn't be where we at now and I'm gonna I'll talk too about I'm always GNA call you this worries um is when you do talk to teachers and maybe I can come and just tell them we are behind you guys we are want try to milk every penny out of every resource you can and get it back into what's they get it even you know how I know what they make and you guys it's tough you know I got to put gas in my car and go the safe way too and it's a tough week man it is you know they can tell us this is so you know they can say inflation's under control they Ain never come down because it shot so far up during Co and it's still there and you know wages are still down here regardless of one industry you're in and it really stinks if you own a house stay in it because there could be bad stuff coming down except you Mr you go find you go find your dream find that dream out we still have that one for sale I know yes find that dream go find the dream house I have it for she just I got a bunk house for you have to share with the chick careful

good evening I'd like to call this meeting to order this Richards roll call please yes good evening president Schulz members of the board let the record show that all five members are present this evening thank you like to make a motion that we approve the agenda second all those in favor I I motion carries 5 Z team building Mr Lon haer do you have dire for people I do and I'm so excited to share them with you tonight uh we're going to do a little team building activity we do this I think it's important when we look at team building our our goal is to make connections that's what we do and if you look that's one of our core values connections and so anytime that we do a team building activity with our leadership team or we ask them to model it on campuses we're trying to make connections with other people because when you have that connections easier for communication it's easier to understand where they're coming from and it builds our team and our builds our camaraderie as a whole so I appreciate your patience as we go through this tonight it's very very exciting and you guys all pass the first test you have a couple pieces of paper that it said do not look under and I did not see anyone looking under that so that was the that was the first thing and so what we're going to do today is we're going to we're going to do a self assessment about leadership called the leadership Compass uh many people have probably already done this before where we going to answer a few questions individually and then we're going to talk as a group we might be getting up we might be moving we might be having some individual conversations about our leadership styles and our leadership uh preferences so the first thing I would like you to do and this is I'm going to give you about I don't know four and a half minutes perhaps I'd like you to complete go ahead and you can look underneath the white sheet now but don't look at the orange one just the white no just the white one you'll notice on the front and the back there are a series of questions or um statements what I'd like you you do is go through take your time check the statements and then you'll see off to the side it says number of checked boxes for instance I'm looking at the one that says North you're just going to Total your number check boxes and write it down so I'm going to ask that you do that and when you're finished if you'd look up and look and try to make eye contact with me then I know when it's safe for us to move on do both sides there are four Compass points go e for those of you guys who are already done let you get started on the next step for those you aren't done keep working we got plenty of time Sher told me I had 25 to half an hour Mr lsen Hauser that is incorrect I'm sorry I have I have 10 minutes and uh we will use them all I wish I had some music it's a little awkwardly silent in here but feel free to whistle and or sing uh president Schultz so if you want to take a look at the side that says approaches to work and style go ahead and find the one that's yours read through those and then just highlight one that you that really strikes a chord with you so you've found the one that is your highest so take a look at it look at that list on approaches to worker style read through those and see if there's one that really strikes a chord you're like I can get that is me that is me maybe there's more than one but highlight one we'll be discussing it for e Mr lsen Heiser is this correct may lose focus on [Music] goals I'm sorry I didn't BR my glasses but hey if everybody would like to return your seats seriously very fun thank you you're you're welcome can I just close it up real quick yes you know I think the important thing as our my group reminded me it's not to look at somebody and try to figure out something but it's truly making that connection and seeing part of yourself and somebody else are helping understand and know where they came from so we can open lines of communication I loved in our group one of our members is like wow I feel like I'm being very vulnerable here that I'm sharing what it is and I think that vulnerability helps build camaraderie helps build teamwork and again helps us I would say focus on the task ahead but as a South I would say focus on the relationships that we build to support each other so thank you for indulging in this um next time next Retreat we can do spirit animals and have a great time with that one okay all right thank you thank you thank you moving on I uh move that we approve the consent agenda all those in favor I I motion carries five to zero information item strategic Plan update 5.1 president Schulz members of the board we're excited this evening to share updates on our Focus goals for this school year you'll have all the people in this table area presenting information to you tonight and I'm really pretty impressed with everything we've done and it's November 1st so we'll start with Dr Lindsay good evening president Schultz members of the board I have the opportunity to start and also be the clicker tonight so hopefully I can multitask here um the first strategic anchor we're going to review is teaching and learning Student Success um focusing specifically on the work that we've done with our instructional Maps um to dat so um instructional Maps um provide pacing of the academic standards and they also support consistency across our schools in terms of when things are taught um throughout the year they're fluid so we routinely maps are U meant to be routinely updated last year if you recall um our district coaches and some teachers work to create um initial drafts of the core content areas with math and language arts um science and social studies and this year um our action step is to develop and Implement um instructional Maths for all our specials areas and elective courses so we started that work this fall and we started with Elementary um so in early September we had our instructional coaches and a representative from each of our um special areas within Elementary including General music band Orchestra art PE and media meet together here in this room and they began to flesh out instructional maps for each content area so um the coaches were paired up with um representatives from each of those content areas and then those teachers went back to their plc's and then they shared the work that had been done and received feedback from them and then they continued to flush them out um December they're all coming back here again with our instructional coaches and this is also being facilitated um by Mary Davis our director of professional development um and they're coming back here again to um incorporate the revisions that they made and um I don't want to say finalized because they're never really finalized but get them to a place where we're ready to share out within with all the teachers within the district so um by January that will happen they'll be shared and then we're going to start the process again with um our secondary schools for electives in secondary all right president Schultz members of the board uh Focus 1 point on 1.3 providing guidance and support for College and Career Readiness we've had an opportunity to partner with the ASU Helios decision Center for educational excellence in their personalized admission project project uh this was started in 2021 with Phoenix Union High School District and now consists of more than 14 districts across the state including ch and US students are proactively accepted into ASU U OFA and NAU uh who meet the requirements for admission uh they receive a letter of acceptance from all three of those universities um based on eligibility um and allows the family to and student to make the decision to accept or not so rather than the student having to go out and apply to the college ASU U OFA and Ne basically say you have done everything you need in order to uh attend our University we've already accepted you um and um the goal being to identify students that may not traditionally go to college but have everything that they need in order to go to college so those letters went out to our seniors last month and then uh sophomores and juniors will also receive a letter basically saying here's if you're on track to be accepted or here's what you need to do in order to be accepted so it's great program and we're excited to be a part of it can I ask do we have like an idea of what percentage of our high school seniors meet these requirements if not that's fine I'm just I'm just curious seeing as I taught seniors I think that so board member Wade we can get that and put it in status yeah great question so one of one of our goal goals is to increase information for parents as well about the FAFSA and so the financial aid that um we ask parents to uh complete we think it's a very very important project for them to be able to complete that when their kids are preparing to go to college and so this year um with the help of uh Dena Morgan and her group we have added more nights and we're trying to track numbers of people who attend so we're asking people to sign up ahead of time and then we'll know who comes in and so we had one in October and that's where we had our 36 parents and five students attended the fast for night we're planning two uh per site one uh each in the spring and one in the fall and the whole goal is to get this awareness out and to help people when they're going uh to to complete the FASA it's really about knowledge and it's knowledge about supporting parents because if your kid is ready now that they are might be accepted to ASU U OFA or NAU already off the bat what's that next step get that fast foood done so they know if they're eligible for financial aid and grants and so how can we help and support parents and so we'll have those labs and those nights available run by our College and Career Specialists additionally they've added lunch and learn webinars that they promote where if a parent wants to get on during lunch on Fridays and um it's not every Friday but certain Fridays where they can also help explain what's happening I know our next lunch and learns are going to be um in December and so the whole goal once again is to increase commity communication increase knowledge help support parents because that financial aid is out there and it's available and so help them complete that fast so that they can uh be prepared for that all right um additionally with 1.3 and providing guidance and support for College and Career Readiness uh the State Board of Education for Arizona has approved uh four different seals that students can earn as um as they go through high School 9th through 12th grade and graduate with that seal on their diploma and those are the Seal of biliteracy uh the Seal of personal finance Civics literacy and arts proficiency historically as a district we've done a lot with the Seal of biliteracy um the requirements there basically our students are already engaged in those requirements going through our world language programs and using the stamp test personal finance Civics literacy and arts proficiency haven't been as widely used by our students uh so Mary Davis has been working with her coach team and secondary administrators to start to build some more awareness around those seals and and start helping students to identify what they can do in order to earn those seals president Schultz board members uh with our CTE programs one of our focuses for uh our strategic uh goal 1.3 on the uh guidance and support for College and Career Readiness is really increasing the rigor of our CTE programs and the outcomes of those those programs so um currently all of our programs are uh offering dual en well most of our programs are offering dual enrollment all of our programs are offering an industry credential or multiple industry credentials uh and so those industry credentials are really what tells a business that our students have completed a program and are prepared to do and entry level work in their in their industry um so you can see here the list of the different industry uh credentials that are offered in each of the programs on our next page is how we're doing in in attainment of those so um if we look at industry credentials over the last few years uh in 1819 we had 82 students uh who graduated in that year uh receive a credential in 1920 that we we dropped to six and primarily because industry was not ready to to do industry credentials uh remotely and so there was very few uh credentials that we could get during the co era the next year we jumped to 126 in 2122 we had 384 seniors graduate with a credential and last year we had 460 seniors graduate with a credential thank you for sharing this these you know we get a lot of data and information it looks just like numbers but this is lifechanging for these students that have that ability it gets that ball rolling and that motivation and and um helps them to keep moving forward it it doesn't just stop so this is great thank you well done to everybody thank you that's primarily due to the the um efforts and the uh professionalism of our teachers so yes can I can I throw something in there real quick Mr Pearson has done a wonderful job if you look at that comprehensiveness of our CT programs and the offerings that we have with our students this is fantastic this is a great job and so I want to publicly thank Craig for his leadership in that and then our teachers there's an investment in there so to be a CTE teacher you also have to be a part of a ctso you have to do extra out of school opportunities for them to help grow these students to reach these credentials and when we talk school to work and career Readiness this is a direct effect and what we're having a direct impact on our community because of what's happening within our CTE programs and it's fantastic so so miss Anderson thank you for pointing that out but well done yes and i' I'd like to say that I love seeing this and and the opportunity for kids to be able to participate in CT because not all kids want to go to you know regular University and and would prefer the technical um side of it but now as far as their credentials is that um through the district or through evit all those credentials are offered here at the district um so RCT RCT Department funds all of those for the students so no students are paying for their their certification it's all paid for through the district okay whether they go to evit or here those 460 credentials are students that completed a satellite program they're they're not inclusive of students that went to evid and completed a program there okay I'd love to know what the if we can include the kids that went to evid as well I I I can definitely get that information and we can put that in status that' be wonderful thank you moving on to a focus on 1.5 supporting a collaborative culture using data and research based practices uh Mary Davis and I have had the opportunity this year to partner and work with our leadership uh at both the elementary and secondary level to look at our uh professional Learning Community practices and processes uh really and you and leverage uh the adoption of our new assessment platform DNA uh to to really start looking at how we are approaching kids um later on I'm going to share with you our uh report or letter grades we have some amazing schools in our district uh the PLC process is a way for us to continue to keep that uh level of of performance going on in our schools so in July um we met with all of our leadership and reviewed our state achievement data and then really looked at what a um where they felt they are in terms of their performance as a school using something uh put together by Doug Greaves called the leadership and learning Matrix then in August we had our DNA training that was 4 days two days with principles um and site and District leadership and then two days with all of our District coaches and site instructional support and two teachers from each of our secondary sites to basically be the site trainers on uh using DNA with the sites and then September uh we went into with our leadership what's some of the research on highly performing schools which really boils down to professional learning communities and collaborative uh work that teachers do and then looked at those four questions of a PLC what do we want students to know and be able to to do how will we know that uh what to what will we do if they don't know that and what do we do if for those that already do know it um and then additionally we had our first benchmarks completed and so uh going out to all of our third through eth grade campuses and meeting with our our principles to really start looking at DNA and the reports that we get out of DNA um if you're not familiar DNA stands for data and assessment and it's really the data side of DNA where we have a lot of power at our fingertips uh the reports that we get are amazing um and allow us to really dive down into student learning and then this past October uh we went into the big picture of the PLC process what does that look like um for a site and how can they start looking at that and then we started diving into that first question which is what do we want students to know and be able to do and the process that we we t talked about with principles was unwrapping standards which basically takes a state standard identify the nouns and the verbs and then they really break that down into as we look that if you look at State Standards they're very dense and so pulling them apart and really looking at where what each of those parts needs to HP what needs to happen with each of those parts and where that level of rigor needs to be and then ultimately for the whole standard where do we need to be assessing kids so moving forward we'll move into common formative assessment and and then look at um instructional strategies for intervention and a differentiation all right moving on into strategic anchor 2 um the special education department when looking at the Strategic plan took some time to really look at the areas that they wanted to focus on and one that we ident identified was um 2.2 and that was being creating more of a comprehensive professional growth plan for all employees we felt we had done a really good job with our certified staff and providing professional development that was relevant to their positions but our pair Professionals in the classroom had really struggled because we weren't really providing them any type of comprehensive PD that was relevant to their day-to-day activities with students and so Emily Harrison and Rachel kpek two of my instructional Specialists worked um a little bit during the summer and really diligently at the beginning of the year to put together a consistent PD calendar for our pair of professionals um the first one be was on July 20th and that was districtwide every pair of professional in the district attended that and then on August 2nd they put together another one that was just for preschool and Elementary because we recognized that the pair professionals at the secondary were a little bit different than the elementary and we didn't want to do that canned PD approach where they weren't getting what was relevant to them and so they did two separate ones one for high school and middle school and then one for the preschool and Elementary um we have trained over a 100 Pair of professionals through these trainings um multiple times and we will continue to do so the feedback that we've received back is amazing they are super appreciative of the opportunity to come in to receive this PD that is relevant to their day-to-day activity and we're actually able to see them take what they're learning in those PDS and Implement them in the classroom with our students so it's been really effective uh shaa is that in this the training began this year this school year or you had been doing it prior years ago we had a pair professional PD um and as the Department's grown and with all of the things that we've endured over the last 5 years it kind of fell to the wayside it wasn't our primary focus and my team just felt that this year it was an area we wanted to get back back to our PA professionals play a huge role in our classrooms and we felt that it was only um fair and super important to provide them the opportunity to grow within their profession as well and so wanted to Value them the way that we do our certified staff excellent and it would be good to see um be able to track retention rates that go along with this as well not even just staff but even student because they're feeling one feels like they're able to do their job well and the other feels like they're getting the services they need well done thank you absolutely thank you and then also continue on for the same uh Focus area for the highly effective Personnel uh one of the needs we found was that our uh Security Department our security team were in need of some standardization and so we developed some District standards uh for the security team that we have employed at the secondary level uh we implemented annual professional development sessions for them we brought the whole team together in uh before school started and then we sat down and we we we carved out a plan uh to give them annual trainings uh so security specific they were trained on uh use of AED CPR first aid uh drug overdose response um crowd management deescalation security Basics along with that a security manual uh was was created and implemented with guidelines and job standards and then uh we're we're implementing this year as well ongoing professional development sessions with them based on feedback from both the security team uh and their supervisors and so Mr Dolan is going to assist and we're going to bring the security team in on early release days November and December and then again in semester two to cover some of the areas that they're seeking some improvement on and then we've also standardized uniform standard across the board for all secondary sites so the security guards will be in a visible brightly colored security gear so they're easy to spot okay building on the same exact um Focus also another action step is to provide targeted training and PD for administrators to ensure inator reliability with the Danielson evaluation instrument so if you recall last year was our first year of our new teacher evaluation tool that is based on Charlotte danielson's framework for teaching um so this is obviously our second year of implementation and what we're really working on now is the in rator reliability and we do that through calibration so um just to kind of explain inator reliability um it's the consistency between the performance levels assigned by evaluators resulting from the process of coming to consensus on collecting evidence and then assigning that evidence to specific components within the Danielson framework for teaching and then assigning a performance level so if we go into the same classroom are we seeing the same things and are we um aligning it to the right aspects of Danielson and then then are we consistent with how we would um assign a performance level so in order to do that um in August all of our administrators went through a training with a consultant from the Danielson group we were all here in this room and we did some review on the framework and then we spent some time in a whole group and then we went out to our sites on the 16th and 17th in small groups um and they began to practice so um we are super grateful some teachers said you can come into my room in practice and the intent was was not for us to evaluate that teacher but really our purposes of professional development so a small team would go into a classroom they would observe and collect evidence we'd come back we would um and this was facilitated by a trainer um we would calibrate um based on the the framework and what we saw and a sign of like a performance level if we were going to be evaluating that teacher um and then we're repeating the process throughout the course of the year and the schools are in the same groups consistently through the year so it's also building culture among them and they're talking about you know just um things that come up and you know what should be assigned where so we're we're it's job embedded PD for them and it's been really valuable also part of uh the focus area is that we've re-engaged the Higley Leadership Academy for this year uh so Higley Leadership Academy just quick backround round was started in 2014 uh and it served as a uh principal preparation program essentially seeking to uh look for building uh site leaders um went back through last year when we pulled all past participants and then we surveyed them about what worked what didn't and how can we reinvigorate the program so this year it's been brought back it's been brought back as a program that seeks to build leadership not just build a a position but so it's open to anybody not just somebody who's aspiring to be a building leader um we we began the session in October we have 42 participants covers topics such as Finance Human Resources School District Operations law policy and governance U policy Rel or public relations marketing um and then leadership development and so it's it's back in effect it got off to a good start um the the the feedback we received from past participants was really good and one of the highlights of it this year is that the sessions are now led by prior participants who have been part of the program in the past so it's it's developed into leader Le program by people who have already participated in the program continuing on I'm sorry real quick before we move on so you said it's open to anybody that's employees or anybody outside the district like Community me no it's for employees only perfect thank you so next keeping with strategic anchor 2 we are starting our process of finding training and development for our classified employees this coming November actually next week we will have our first customer service training for our classified employees this group will consist mostly of our office managers and um those who are forward- facing to the public and we'll invite those folks we have already invited them to come join us for a customer service training this is just one example of what we'll be doing in the future as well moving on to strategic anchor 3 another area that we feel is especially important in special education is communication and community relations um we decided to get our story out there more and we developed an Instagram which you can see the symbol up there to follow us and it's an opportunity for us to to highlight our teachers and students and all the positive things that they're doing um I do not manage that Kristen Nash does because she is my social media Guru um but she's able to put a lot of stuff up there and families are really liking the opportunity to see the successes of their students in that public forum the other thing that we've done um is continue our special education parent University this is something that we started last year and was an opportunity for us to come together with our special education parents and present on topics that are relevant to them and this year our first topic is what is special education that was on September 13th we had a really good attendance at that and that was an opportunity for us to explain kind of what special education does what the purpose of special education is and what it is not and then also speak with families about what some of the other options are out there for supports for their student our next training is scheduled for November 29th and you can see some of the possible top topics but we've actually narrowed this down we are going to have someone come in from vocational rehab to speak with our families about options that are available postsecondary for kids after they leave High School what is available for supports and services out in the community as far as work and independent living goes we're also going to be bringing in DDD and prets as part of that presentation just to ensure that our families are better prepared when they do graduate on what that next step is for their special education student so it's been very very successful with a lot of really positive feedback Mrs Miller I believe Mrs Richards you said that this was also attended by people outside of the district that you had some people because they were so good it was so um our last um university in September we had two parents from outside the district they were from Chandler that actually came to listen to our presentation because they had heard about what it was and they were excited for that opportunity and felt that even though they weren't in our district that the topic was relevant so that's great has have any other districts reached out to you or anything since or I wonder if those parents went back to Chandler and said we need this you know in Chandler not yet okay I'm sure it's coming it sounds like a great program thank you and I just want to add it it was great and and I've shared before that I wish I had it when my kids were younger um and even from the last one I attended it helped me as far as my daughter going off to college so great thank you great I sorry M Miller one question um these parent universities are they by age or grade level or does it is it just um it really depends on the topic so for example the September 13th topic was relevant to anyone whether you have a student in special ed whether you think you may have a student that would qualify for special ed or if you're a parent who was recently evaluated and your student did didn't qualify and you don't understand why so that really covered the the all age levels our next one is going to be geared more towards that post-secondary so that middle school high school age um we will be advertising it as such but also saying if you want to get a jump on things or you have questions on what do I need to prepare for what do I need to do beforehand anybody can come but it will be geared more towards that postsecondary I'm also asking um that some of our high school Middle School teachers and school psychologists attend as well because I think a lot of parents that can attend are still going to need this information and so I think it's super important for my staff to understand that so that they can relay that in IEP meetings as well so we're kind of trying to get the information out to parents in a multitude of ways okay all right thank you it's good to know that it is organized somewhat by grade level because you go to the one and your kids in elementary school goal and then the emotions change and Things become very different and very real as they get to the secondary level so it's great that you're not just trying to Encompass it all in one they go to one they think they know we get we think they we think we get everything and then we're like holy cow it's a whole new kid we spend quite a bit of time after the the presentation is over and make sure that we allow enough time for those parents to have that one-on-one time as well to ask those individual questions um we also provide an opportunity for parents to leave their questions and then call them and have that one-on-one conversation so that they're given the amount of time that they need and they don't feel pushed off or like the time was not well spent okay as we continue to focus on 3.2 it's been a big deal this year to Market our district we promote the district um our schools and all the great things that are going on this in turn attracts students employees businesses and Community Partners I want to shout out to our current team of three PR who have really I when I'm on looking at whether it's X or Twitter Facebook or Instagram I see more and more post and sometimes I see things and I'm like I didn't even know that you know so they're running in front of it and they're really working to celebrate employees that includes certified and classified staff students specifically in their achievements school events and campus and student life in general things that happen here at the district office and then when cabinet and the board goes to visit schools we try to highlight that as well so tonight you approved Jessica Batista who will be our new marketing and PR director she is going to start on November 13th um she's joining us from Queen Creek so we're super excited in addition Mark konis will be our multimedia specialist and he will take over a lot of those duties that Curtis did so our team of three is going to be a team of five so really really good things going on um and I can't say enough about this district and our teachers and our parents everybody so miss Richards um I forgive me if you've already stated this will will we um be receiving analytics or anything on on I'm sorry we will we be receiving any data or analytics on the social media sites the hits which ones were popular I think that that'll be really important data for us to have moving forward because we've never had this um laser focus to this degree so yes we can get that in connection we had our business partners breakfast and this room was full of Community Partners and it's like every day I think we meet somebody new and they want to come join us uh I met the girl that works with the coyotes Arizona Coyotes and she was excited to potentially be a community partner our next breakfast will be on February 27th 2024 if you can believe it's going to be 2024 so we're excited about that and if people watch this are out here and they know businesses that would like to join us please let us know and then uh finally for strategic anchor 4 uh the next uh few slides will be focusing on 4.3 to ensure districts are safe secure wellmaintained and have the appropriate resources to ensure Student Success so some of the main things we want to highlight for you today um is is the installation and the deployment of our new security cameras uh so we were fortunate to have that approved a couple meetings back and then we've already have uh begun the process you can see a couple of these pictures just kind of give an example uh of of the change that's immediately received when the cameras were installed so that's a before and after shot from the same camera uh vantage point with the old camera and the new camera uh next slide just provides similar uh situation um old camera and new camera so you can see it's it's it's uh the clarity is much improved and we know the technology advances rapidly so it's very important that we stay uh in tune with that and this is going to help us to be uh ensure our campus buildings are are are more secure um better monitored and then not only does it have a better Clarity but it also has better analytics and the ability to to utilize them as as a safety tool um the next one continuing with the same area um we deployed this year uh formal visitor management system so we launched in July of 203 and this was as of last week we logged 12,705 uh visitor uh signin to our campuses around the school district so um that's another important piece it keeps that archive we have access to that whenever we need um all staff uh when they visit a campus are logged in for building access and then all visitors are screened and provided a visitor badge when they when they come to a campus um we began by initial training for the sites and then we let it uh start up and then we surveyed all the campuses to see their needs created the needs assessment as a result um overall favorable reception to the process um staff were able to rate the tool rated it at 4.3 seven out of five on a ease of use and then a 4.23 out of five on the increase of the feeling of campus safety uh from that the assessments we created a needs uh needs assessment created FAQs and then we just stay in tune with how we can support um with both the the process in the hardware and working with uh it and Facilities to make sure that we maintain a standard for visitor management we also knew this year we've discussed prior um we've developed and implemented the standard response protocol um Al all all all rooms uh in the school district I have uh a laminated version of this poster uh with the with the protocol there's been extensive training across the board all staff students every department has received direct training as a result um and then in addition to the the site the room posters um every s staff member was given uh a smaller version to have as part of their um their daily uh setup in their classrooms and then continu training is ongoing and then we're using this information to still build Upon Our protocols and our communication so um favorable received um it was something that we're really a need of standardizing this process across the board so we have common language um so our students that go from preschool to elementary school to Middle School to high school um have the same process and they learn all the all the way through uh staff members that rotate between campuses have the same expectation substitutes visitors Etc uh it keeps that process standardized so very important for school safety protocols and then finally the last thing I wanted to highlight for the uh start of this year is uh beginning this past summer we refreshed our 2-way radio uh infrastructure across the district so we worked with a vendor we assessed our needs we're able to then update the equipment that we use with forward thinking because it's uh we were on an analog system before now we have a dual system that's analog digital capable we still had enough analog radios that were um didn't make any sense to dispose of them because they're still usable but that someday they'll become Obsolete and when they do we're we're prepared to make that switch so the inventory that we have now works on both analog and digital but when it's time to refresh again the the most recent update will still be in use and then we'll be able to add to that so is cost effective measure to to merge existing usable equipment during the refresh also gave us a better understanding of our timelines uh increase the the use the clarity um and then just the potential to be able to communicate better uh in in emergencies as well as just regular day-to-day operations and so it's used across all campuses all Sites all departments is something that's very important so I just want to say thank you for the cameras at the district office um and I want to find out how um how long the recording is and how long do we hold on to that sure um I you I you don't have to answer me now but I don't know if you have the information and then also when we first discussed um the cameras I had asked if they would be open to a foyer request did you find out it is open to a request but then there's also limitations based on purpose so it's really relative to the specific instance so so like let's say there's a a fight uh students inv involved in a fight and the parent would like to get a recording of the in and yeah there's potential to view the recordings as part of what fura allows for we don't necessarily are able to like send out the video footage but there there are opportunities when footage can be inspected okay um but it's it's really relative to a specific instance so it depends on the situation as far as the the capacity and and the storage I'd have to get back to you on specifics it's also relative on how much is recorded and when and you know and the the settings that's internal about the um drawn a blank on the term but the it's like the 1080p the resolution the higher the resolution the higher the file size is the longer it archives the smaller it is so it it depends on that as well so got it okay thank you yeah president Schultz um Mr Marcus Burkshire or if you're ready to say we're ready to move on I think I'm jumping jump being around I wasn't sure if we were if that was it but thank you very much I um as a a north than I love the action um side of you're welcome I brought it back I appreciate your your team building so I love the action and all the work that everyone's doing and um I Echo what Mr lotson Heiser said about Mr Pearson and the CTE program always see such great things and the good things you're doing and everybody's doing with all the different programs and security and Leadership and everything so thank you very much anyone else have anything else okay uh moving on to 5.2 School letter grades this is a great report so there was a little North coming out over here I apologize but Marcus Burkshire has an exciting update for you this evening letter grades and District letter grades have been released he's going to give you a brief overview and then he'll come back in December with more data and of course bragging and comparing us to other districts good evening president Schultz members of the board um as Miss Richard said uh letter grades were released on Friday afternoon around 5:00 p.m.

let's relance to the okay first item on the agenda is adjustments to the agenda yep there are no adjustments to the agenda okay next item public comments regarding agenda items gu anyone Cory anything to say okay next item new business tenative agreement for the 2023 24 El bargaining bargaining agreement between GCC and the Green Castle Classroom Teachers Association yeah so we reached ten agreement on October 24th uh the gcta met this morning and ratified ratified the agreement and so the next step is to have this tenative agreement Hearing in which we um essentially allow discussion of terms of the tenative agreement this has been posted on the website and all this has to be done 72 hours uh before the board can ratify or approve um the collective bargaining agreement so as you can see in front of you we made adjustments to um our salary scale so the new starting uh salary for bachelor is 45,000 tops out at 76810 uh for Masters 46,000 tops out at 78 517 so we've been able to continue to move the scale on that way and then as you work your way down each level below is 2% greater than the level above um so we have to transition obviously um everyone onto the well everyone to the new scale um so so there's language there on eligible returning teachers um they'll be placed on the appropriate level and then if they worked 120 days uh last school year um they also get their step down um so that we we keep everybody on the correct level um that they're supposed to be at we did the mass adjustment um last year and then um obviously there's language there for new hires again very similar to how we've done in the past but we have to Define that and then on ecas um remember a couple years ago we indexed those um they were indexed 42,000 and now with adjusting the first the starting salary for beginning teacher and the bachelor moving to 45,000 we obviously bumped that to 45 which is also increased those uh according to uh the percentages and then we just have a couple of additional ECA positions we started Middle School baseball and softball last year our coaches were voluntary we placed those on the scale similar with Middle School to how they work Middle School soccer we're having a high school orts sponsor excuse me similar that's similar to the academic coaches adding our district Fab Lab coordinator since Mr hail I was going to assist leading all of our Fab laps our middle school and our high school U we have some extra days but as well this is for all that additional work um outside of the day to help leave that and then the final thing that we're going to do um is the gcta one in some language that um we meet three times between January and May 2015 and again this is just for U just review of some of our uh just to you know make sure that we we have it updated they want to look at you know number of positions and that kind of thing um so typically you do that outside of bargaining season because it's a lot of work a lot of time and so that's just informational certain we reach that outside of that be happy to answer any your questions The Next Step would be to our next step is our advertise being for 4M on Monday the 6 um to approve the event all I have okay questions what um how many does the ballpark figure I mean do we have in either the Masters or bors there's quite a few that are uh there are some yeah there's there's a solid mix all the way around I don't I don't know what it is off the top head but yeah there's a there's a good mix yeah I don't have any questions about it I don't any question straightforward man I'm glad we were able to do this and most of the teachers the what was the was it unanimous they don't share they don't let know they ratified it I can tell you that I think the feedback from theability rather positive yeah they're they're appreciative okay we actually there's no board action there's no board action today no okay well can I get a motion to ad I will so move second okay all in favor all oppos motion pass thank you all for coming we'll see you all back here on Monday

[Music] welcome to week four or five for the Super Smash bre tournament today we have varsity and JV playing uh it looks like Varsity is placing playing I can't pronounce this high school's name is there any way you can do it what uh that one right there I want to say Brean but I don't know that's Helman all right and JV is currently going against black forward so the opening map is small Battlefield it's just like the normal Battlefield differences they got rid of the uh Middle High platform I can't think of a lot of words right now yeah Hey listen struggling with English today yes listen I have English class and it wasn't too great so else doesn't help by by the way uh it's week four all right Edie I don't know why I was thinking it was like week six or something that has been that long I don't know looks like they're getting ready to hop in as you can see you see the coach Mr Brooks and the team down there it looks like we have Tristan playing or trzy which players call him yeah trzy he plays a LC and he plays a pretty mean little MC but the opponent's Sonic so it's pretty hard so oh he used a yo he's yell oh and he did it like he going right at it that's yeah Sonic's a pretty F fast Critter that's why I don't like to play him he just oh yeah he can't really recover just ledge trapped him I don't know is that what it's called yeah ledge trapping is make sure they can't get back on stage yeah oh well they're oh never mind yeah sound like a pretty lightweight character so I don't know what's going to go on a lot he's a lightweight Med no he's a lightweight look at that smaller frame I thought I thought it was at least a medium frame no why would it be a medium weight but that fast doesn't make any sense Fair Point never mind but it does look like trist getting two up smashes off so so what are the arrows for uh for a little mac above oh so that's his like so just like Cloud he has a meter and when he fills it up he gets a KO punch that usually should kill lightweights around 30 to 40% medium weights maybe 50 to 60 and heavy weights definitely at 80 or 100 but okay he's pairing a lot of these moves so he's not getting damaged by it but he's definitely missing but he's not doing damage so how do you fill it though filling it uh you can do damage and you can take damage or it fills up over time but doing damage is the best way to get it taking damage is the best and waiting a long time is going to be a long time but it does look he gets the opponent stock down now he could no he'd have to get him you said 20 right yep 20 which is not too hard with a little mac all you needs like probably a smash or or at least a down smash no any kind of Smash really yeah any kind of smash or Perry pretty much all he has to do is just hit him once no not once oh does he get an up Smash If he uses it right oh but he misses ah dang it yeah not the worst thing that happened in the world he tries to get the neutral B missed the what I'm so confused by I got get out of his Parry I didn't know that was even possible I didn't even know that was even possible either yeah huh he does finest recover oh yeah little Mech has the worst recovery in the game that's why seriously TR yeah absolutely he is just a human he is legitly just a boxing guy it's like putting Logan Paul on the stage and be like all right you're going to fight if you fall off go ahead and try to jump back on so that's the main reason why you don't want to play Little Mac off stage but some people can do it really well it's why Tristan doesn't really want to go off stage and I don't blame him at all so oh does look like the Sonic finds a back air does not manage to kill Tristan but definitely try slightly D to kill yeah sad now just has to watch it though yep I think Tristan just get it one dash attack should do it I guess not charge it but so who's all playing tonight uh for Varsity it is going to be me and M as and Travis and Lucas and not Lucas I'm sorry Lucas is actually subbed out for tonight and let me get this from the beginning sorry there's Tristan me uh Noah and Jaden so who else playing varsity tonight yeah s's a very high percentage so it's really risky Tristan managed to find that Revenge stock he could uh yeah he donic up a little bit and get his K his KO he could end it yeah but it's also really risky too yeah but you can also like go in there and purposely take damage but Little Mac is a medium slwe lightweight character it's kind of risky yeah no I'm sorry he's actually due to recent studies he's actually heavyweight I believe so yeah from the Smash Wiki he's heavyweight huh did not know that yeah Smash Wiki is constantly changing so huh tomorrow you could be mediumweight and then the next day lightweight oh so just depends on the day essentially or who's going against yeah see uh but Tristan has to find some pretty big damaging moves just like that but otherwise hopefully he can get pretty cheesy kill against his Sonic does manage to find it now he can kill with a KO punch but sadly wastes it right away dang it yeah which we were trying to train him a little bit not to instantly use his KO punch to scare the opponent but it doesn't seem like fully understood it or he did so is it just to up smash to activate it or no it's actually neutral B so oh he missed the up that's kind of sad all right what is neutral neutral B yeah it's fine neutral B is uh when he held his fist back like he was getting ready for a big old punch yeah and he was charging up and his fist is growing red that was his neutral B but normally neutral be is like special moves like uh for Samus it's like a big charge plasma shot or for Isabelle it's a pocket so it's like looks looks like Jaden's playing I just said Kaden that's fine Jaden Kaden just change a k for a j and it works yeah but there really a no new map info about small Battlefield looks like he's going Isabelle I think Isabel can actually a pretty good counter get Sonic cuz Place one little land mine and it's yeah and he has um Sonic has to die SD twice absolutely okay and then they have both t taon or Dash so there is the first stock and the second there's taunt and it looks like he's ready to go it looks like Jaden tries to go us for the fishing hook does not find it Sonic Rockets him though yeah that is going to be Jaden's biggest friend in this matchup right now uh because Sonic can't do enough damage to really destroy it unless he does a move like that but then he misses these are these um both Sonic and uh what's her name Isabelle isab they're both lightweights aren't they mm so but the question is who's lighter weight uh doesn't really matter I know lightweights a lightweight class you can get even smaller feather weight oh he gets him with gets Sonic with the fishing hook yeah also gets him with the rocket so yeah Jay can get pretty nasty with that fishing hook you think he was and the land mine too yeah you think he was a middle-aged Dad how well he cast it oh he does not find kill he doesn't kill him though oh this should kill yeah yeah okay I was about to say that but it should kill him nothing the opponent could really do against it besides hopefully trying to air Dodge out of it he just grabbed him off the ledge so I mean what else could you do you just got snatched off the ledge so it's really nothing else you could do so close to near Halloween too so close that was yesterday yeah see like I said Sally was yesterday oh find to get candy I didn't go trick-or trading you didn't go trick or- trading what no cuz I always somehow managed to get end up getting candy for my sisters all righty we should probably get to sponsored yep do you want to read the first one you we'll meet to I you do it yeah because I'll probably Butch all of them uh before we hop in the match again Adam Wells thank you for our sponsor Adam Wells Internet TV and your local service provider with gig Speed Internet TV telephone service and your business and residential customers and out in wellis County Butch that up a little bit but I the next one win we are in the middle yeah Jen does get medium damage out Diddy Kong is going to find some way to get over it so is Diddy Kon a middle weight or also lightweight he's also lightweight yep what huh yeah Diddy Kong has a banana which could stun him which could Le for some uh zero death combos which that's like at 0% all the way to death oh oh oh no but it is pretty CH difficult to pull off and Jaden knows how to avoid it so okay but if you get someone like like me in there and they actually do manage to pull it off I don't think I will now Jaden really just has to do was hold on to that banana and he can't do he to death oh cuz he can't he can't Chuck it out can he no he cannot get it out he can only have one out mhm and that that considers the game considers it to be out so he won't be able to put put another one out okay okay two taunt which is get the rules but I don't think people really care about the taunts nowadays yeah that Don That Donkey Kong AI fought yeah Donkey Kong AI are pretty hard to but Jaden's just trying to Zone him out which he does find the rocket doing really good yeah it's like nothing he's just not letting him touch the stage yeah that's actually a really great shot yeah if you can't touch the stage you can't get your jump back which means you can't jump into your next attack yeah so no Isabelle's from Animal Crossing industry yeah but Isabelle stared as I believe a neutral character which means she was automatically with a game not a DLC like some other characters and then sh oh my go yeah don't worry all of us have a speech impediment here and there my God I can't talk none of um she had a crossover with doom didn't she uh no or no that was it was some weird April Fool stuff that happened oh because uh the new Animal Crossing and doom came out around the same that time so but anyways back to the match Isabelle sadly loses their first stock but does get the Diddy down to as well Tri to pocket it does not find the pocket so if she Pockets it does that cons does the game still yeah the game still considers it's gone it's on the field but it's not on the field okay so it's she has it but he can't place it down again cuz she okay cuz she pocketed yep yes but it just looked like Isabelle found the cheesy kill why is it so hard to talk today I don't know I felt that too but I still chump through it it's just not my day today at least today is your day so yeah look like either one of them trying to wear down time or they just don't want to approach each other which is good for Jaden just not good for that DK didy Kong Diddy Kong yeah yep cuz of he has one stock and time out is not the best yeah no he doesn't have banana which is kind of risky shows what's in the pocket right over I did not notice that until huh that's neat get turn up don't get calm sorry if we're really boring today it's just very un uninteresting match really it's not like someone's popping off a crazy combo by by the way you going to three stock somebody today oh absolutely not the wish is you never know you never know but the wish is the wish is to three stock somebody yep nearly kills him with fishing hook don't know if he's trying to get another fishing hook kill but I guess it works but he gets a rocket kill he does get the kill yeah he does get the kill eventually and all it took is one stock yep sorry for yawning all right it's time for the second sponsor do you want to read that one as well as Community Foundation it's not too hard yeah I know very special thanks to our WS Community Foundation for a special grant that allowed us to purchase the computer this I I can read it you sound just like a robot so let me hype this up a little bit a special thanks to Wells Community Foundation without them we frankly would have have itting the stream and you want to see of our lovely faces and our lovely voices so thank you to them otherwise just wouldn't 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in general oh okay they just did DK's banana cuz it's funny oh well okay well yeah like it's a great counter against Isabelle cuz Isabelle is very very light just so there's nothing Jaden can really do unless get a really cheesy kill but he can't really fall down yeah there's nothing he can really take risk at one stock right now I would personally love to use my secondary character against this which is me brawler because it's a heavyweight counter you can just juggle him but looks like Jaden's finding a really hard time to get on stage like that does eventually just oh is that no that's to kill oh doesn't get the fishing hook either he could get the fishing hook in this one he does struggling to get up on my let CU Jaden doesn't want him to yeah she's really great stat he doesn't doing the same thing just doing this if it's not broken don't fix it fair it's not broken oh okay I understand that now just means if it works it works why not it's just why did you change them doesn't work like 20 bucks is 20 bucks I think it's different analogy but yeah yeah but it looks like Jan's up very Hy perent she got to be careful with this yeah he a really big heavyweight guy yeah hopefully he can find another cheese he has to really be careful cuz he could end up just losing the match yeah hope he could find another cheese kill but I frankly I don't I I can see it J is really Jade is really good at pulling at these cheese kills yeah just out of nowhere but I want to say he can but it's kind of unlikely that it could happen at this unless he could just it looks like uh Jaden released the canonball from the maybe not never mind I thought it was funny never mind yeah thought it was funny he released the cannonball in the roll and pox it again and So eventually he downfall yeah do look like Jaden's good at getting these really high percentage out for a lightweight so unfortunately I'm going to go check in on them real quick do you want to read the merch or read another sponsor real 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hi I'm Mar B run and the presentation you're about to see is the one that we I had pre-recorded for showing in Ashland uh in November this is all about Medicare it's Medicare time it's open enrollment and what what I try to do in the presentation is give just give you a way of thinking out how to reexamine how your plan currently works and whether or not it's going to work for you again next year either because your health has changed or because your plans may have changed and when you're thinking about that I always encourage you to work with somebody uh one of the shine counselors at the senior center these are folks who are are either staff or volunteers who have been who are trained specifically to let you know how these plans have changed for uh 2024 and whether or not it would be to your advantage to change anything in your plan so I hope you enjoy the presentation if you have any questions please give me a call 508 8601 1470 thank you hi I'm I bridon and welcome back to elder law 101 uh the seminar series that I developed uh and and presenting in 11 or excuse me in 12 separate episodes one a month uh and the goal the of elder law 101 is to take all of the seminars that I've done in the past and to package them in a way so that you could kind of see through your whole life well even from before you were a senior but through your life as a senior uh what the issues are that you need to be thinking about the purpose of these seminars is not to get all of the answers uh the purpose is to make sure that you understand that there are questions that may need answers so that you can talk about to someone about your individual situation so um we've been doing these uh presentations now through the year we're up to number 11 it's actually November right now uh in the first presentation we talked about uh in we always talked about my friends Frank and Mary um and their kids Peter Paul and Mary Jr we T we kind of follow them through their lives in the first presentation we talked about incapacity in estate planning before age 60 uh which has its own set of issues to it your children are typically then younger you're then younger your sense of health issues is very different we talked about things to consider in the next seminar in your 60s uh where we talked a lot about social security um we talked about the the fact that you can now start pulling out your deferred income funds we did not talk in that seminar uh at all uh about Medicare because I held that conversation for today because it's really a separate conversation we talked about dealing with life in your 70s which is often a time where you're thinking about changing where you may be down thinking of downsizing or having somebody move in with you or you're just a bunch of different and you're kind of anticipating now how you're going to deal with with older age I talked about um dealing with uh taxes specifically this was way back in April uh because that's that one that like Medicare is really a specific topic then I talked about dealing with life in your 80s if you're a senior um often times that's a time when you've got some health problems you've got a whole bunch of different issues to face among others Mass health uh I took did a SE separate summon out to just talk about why it is that you can always qualify for Mass Health um and by the way when I say that I always have to emphasize it's why you can always cry for Mass Health not if you're unless you're in the community and have high income uh if you if you need nursing home care or you need a lot of Care at home in order to avoid going to a nursing home then you can always qualify for Mass Health uh I to do a separate seminar specifically on the last year of your life uh that's a year that can be uh obviously you know a depressing time a stressful time and the question is you know how do you kind of prepare yourself to deal with that uh I do a I talk about your your your planning after you're dead what what needs to get done following your death uh whether it's just through a state Administration I do was did a separate seminar on trusts I know they I know that they we're always talking about them the question is how do they work what are the different kinds of trusts there is trusts are meant as an answer to a qu to a problem the question is what's the problem and and what is the correct answer I um last month I talked about what to do about the kids and the grandkids if you're doing your estate planning you have some specific questions about um before or after you have died you know what are the what are the things you want to consider when you're giving things to your children or to your grandchildren um then finally today uh and by the way this is the 11th of 12 in the final uh presentation we're going to talk about giving which is a common topic uh in December uh but also about uh tax planning which is not necessar necessarily as common a topic but is really important to you as a senior especially if you have tax deferred funds so today we're talking about Medicare uh and and I want to emphasize and we're going to talk about once again we're always talking about our friends Peter Paul and Mary Jr uh or excuse me our our friends Frank and Mary and their kids Peter Paul and Mary Jr and by the way this topic is feeling very relevant to me uh I'm 73 and I'm in generally good health but last Saturday pulled out my back now this is I pulled out my back that's been happened certainly a number of times over the years but it's now a week later and I'm still having problems with my back this is not an the way it would have been you know 20 or 30 years ago so suddenly I found you know I talk need to talk to my doctor and I've got some meds and so you're dealing with this whole set of issues which are just inherent to becoming a senior so if you're Frank and Mary uh during your lifetime if you were when you were Frank and Mary and you were like 40 and Peter Paul and Mary Jor were 10 8 and six you had a very different kind of sets of concerns about what kind of insurance you needed because the real Medicare is Insurance uh and like house insurance and auto insurance so what is Insurance it is it is a payment that you're making to somebody uh as a premium in order to make sure that if an an emergency happens if something bad happens you're going to get something in return so if you're Frank and Mary and you're 40 the question is well what will you know what if the house burns down we need something we need to make sure that's covered what if I get into a car accident what if I get hurt what if I hurt somebody else um well if what if one of the kids gets hurt how do I kind of deal with that and will one of us die suddenly when you're 40 you're really not thinking about illness you're thinking about the possibility of sudden death certainly illness sometimes happens but it's rare um when you're 40 um when you're 60 however uh or 70 or 80 um and your kids are grown up uh the the cluster is a little different certainly you want to still make sure that your house is was okay if it burns down and but you're also very concerned about will I die tomorrow you get to a certain age uh I think I had mentioned in an earlier seminar I had um earlier this year my third Tia uh uh which is a mini stroke uh it it it is very um enlightening to go through that because you come to realize at the moment at which your arm is getting numb and your leg is getting numb that this might be it right I might be dead right so so you know you you get a concern about will I at some point I'll die what happens if I die suddenly but even worse for most people what if I get really sick certainly there's an issue about what what what happens if there's a car accident although that's much rarer the older that you get through the real question is what happens if I get really sick um because there are a whole cluster of problems around that that right uh and there are all expenses that you may not have the cash to take care of the hospital the ambulance the doctors the physical and physical and other therapists the drugs right you know what what to do about all of those problems that's a real concern as you get to be our age the answer uh of course uh for many uh is Medicare um the point of Medicare it's hard to believe now kind of the point of Medicare is really is really embodied in this statistic that in 1960 uh 33% of seniors uh lived in poverty uh in 2 2020 6% of seniors live in poverty most of that is because of Medicare uh it's because you had people who would get older could not qualify for traditional Insurance were old and so forth though so they would get sick and they would die right and and and and and that sickness often would not be covered and so often times they would get sick and then they would just be stuck going bankrupt because they had gotten sick uh so Medicare was meant to solve that and it has to a tremendous extent I know seniors that I speak to are regularly really stressed about what it's going to cost for them to live for the rest of their lives um and they and they talked to me a lot about uh nursing home coverage um and trying to deal with that if they ever need it the reason for that is that is the one major medical expense that is not covered uh by Medicare for other expenses they kind of don't even think about it the you know the doctors and the hospitals and now even the drugs which were a tremendous drain on people's resources and still are to some extent but nothing like what it was before Medicare Part D had been adopted so there is traditional Medicare let me just I just want to talk about the pieces of the insurance puzzle that you need to solve in order to try to get a good night's sleep knowing that your finances are going to be okay if you get sick so tradition Medicare the wonderfulness of it is you don't pay a premium at least not for Medicare a Medicare A and originally uh Medicare historically was created through an incredible lobbying effort by the American Hospital Association because they were realizing the the tremendous cost to them and to their structure of dealing with seniors who had no resources because they had had you know a moral obligation to deal with seniors um and also they were typically nonprofits uh 501 c3s and therefore required to provide free care and it was bankrupting a lot of these places so Medicare A was designed especially to take care of hospitals so uh in Medicare Medicare A provides for um uh covers your hospital expense from admission uh there is a deductible um and and there is a maximum number of days in the hospital um basically you go to the hospital um and initially the the there's an initial um deductible then you're therefore you can be there at the hospital if I recall correctly for up to 60 days per um Medicare stay before you dip into your lifetime number of available extra days that you can stay in the hospital and without going through the whole system the point is Medicare A is designed to cover hospital stays however there is a there is a copay um if you are have been in a a hospital for a short Peri at least a short period of time and then get discharged from the hospital directly to a nursing home then Medicare will also cover up to 100 days in the nursing home uh but uh very seldom does uh Medicare typically covers 17 days in the uh nursing home one of the reasons for that is uh that me Medicare um well to be honest I think one of the reasons for is that Medicare uh reimbursements to the nursing home uh go down substantially uh if it is unless it is shown that the that the care that is being given uh is improving your situation uh consistently and so um Med the the the the uh nursing homes themselves uh often are not really interested in your staying on nursing home for a prolonged period because the reimburse rates go down so much so Medicare will cover up to that 100 days in skilled nursing uh it also covers um this special program which by the way you know you should become aware of uh and talk to the shine counselor or your doctor or others about just in case you need it which is the program that is available for folks who are at home um but are Homebound and therefore uh cannot leave the home in in order to get other services at the hospital or at their doctors or whatever so that's the the point of the the program and the way the program works is that if your doctor certifies that you need this program then the program is available to you for in in 60-day increments um but those in and that will cover during that period nursing care not home care not just regular non-skilled Home Care uh but nursing care and a set of other benefits and that that 60-day period can be renewed uh uh for forever you could L literally just keep using these 60-day increments um for as long as you live then there is the hospice benefit the benefit that I really like to promote and encourage people to understand it's the benefit that is available for those folks who are living um um in a situation where uh the the they are not thinking that the care that are not designing their medical care in order to have them get better uh they're not um looking to improve they're not they don't have a kind of disease or they're not in a situation where things are going to get better for them they're really in a situation where they want to be they want care that will help them to live every day as well as well as they can um um for as long as they can but the main thing is to make sure that every day is good um so that hospice is also available through Medicare a uh and there are no um deductibles for any of this and there isn't so um then there's Medicare B Medicare B covers everything else covers all the other stuff that you think about covers doctors covers day treatments emergency rooms Labs diagnostic tests durable medical equipment V visits to the hospital after you've gotten out of the hospital so after your Medicare A has stopped if you're going back to the hospital for treatments as opposed to being treated at home um is in Medicare B there are co-pays um and they are fairly um significant ones and there I want to say there and and there is an an annual payment that you make uh typically for any service that you're getting that is covered by Medicare B Medicare will do this calculation of what the um value of that service is or the cost of that service is in your area and Medicare will then pay for 80% of that amount the rest of it is on you so Medicare B services do not come for free right but they but Medicare does cover a substantial amount of the bill and because it's Medicare no matter how much your doctor or other service provider wants to charge uh Medicare determines how much that doctor or other service provider can charge pays 80% of it and specifies as a condition of these doctors and other providers uh accepting these payments that um they can't bill you any more than that so-called balance billing is prohibited they can't bill you for the balance of that additional payment so the point is Medicare be and right and and as of uh now uh the med the mandated monthly premium for Medicare B is $174 and 80 at least it might be higher than that and it typically is can get much higher than that if you have a lot of extra income I know one of the uh and and by the way that extra income is based on your previous years's income so I've had had people call me because their um Medicare pre their their their part B uh deductible or payment went up to $300 from1 174 to this huge figure and then I'll talk to them and and they'll say oh well you know so what happened did your income go up oh no we just sold our house well if you sold your house that was income if that income therefore pushed your other income above the the the limits that are specified in Medicare for that one year for that that your income was really high Medicare is going to whack you so anyway that's how the traditional plans work and then there are the supplemental plans the plans that cover what Medicare doesn't so when you think about uh when I I was younger um I always thought it thought that there was just one plan and maybe there was I don't know it's called medx and that was the point of medx medx was meant to cover any of the deductibles or co-pays any of the other costs that were incurred after um the government paid their Medicare A or Medicare B payment uh now there are a number of these plans uh that are out there they vary by they they're priced differently they very you know certainly I think many people get basically the highest level plan because that highest level plan will cover all of the deductibles and therefore that highest level plan has the highest of the uh of the monthly premiums so in terms of dealing with your non-drug related Health Care um you need to figure out the there are all these calculations um that would kind of automatically happen if you're simply on standard Medicare A and B and haven't done anything else then there's Medicare d uh you may remember Medicare D was adopted seems like a long time ago now in the Bush Administration about 10 years ago uh and the point was that there were so many seniors that were having such financial problem dealing with drugs which was never covered by Medicare A or Medicare B so under Medicare Medicare D government's not throwing any money um um but you the the there are there are various plan providers who can be the same providers like Blue Cross and Harvard Pilgrim and other large providers that are providing U Medicare um supplemental plans who will also provide a plan uh that will pay for your drugs except that the plan won't pay for like all of your drugs the plan will pay for some of the drugs uh and it may or may not have a co-pay and it may or may not have there may or may not be deductibles the premium will be be fixed during the year um and some drugs may not be covered so the the challenge regarding Medicare D is that things are not fixed and you don't know what's going to be there from year to year and so what you really need to do uh is shop among the available Medicare D plans including by the way the plan that you're probably now on uh to make sure that that plan next year is still going to give you the benefits um that you were hoping that it's it was going to give you then finally there's Medicare c um which is used nationally a lot over 33% of all cases or Medicare C cases in Massachusetts uh much less so it's a they're private insurance plans they're offered by a number of the companies not on anaka and Martha's Vineyard where I do a lot of work but every place else where I do work uh and they offer off and they often offer some additional benefits that you wouldn't get under traditional Medicare Eye Care Hearing Care uh dent uh the cost of staying healthy often often I hear people refer to the the silver sneakers plan which is one of the Medicare C plans uh dealing with all of that so the good news about Medicare is that everyone qualifies for all plans you can change your Medicare D plan you can change your Medicare C plan right um that those changes occur once a year uh when there's this period during which you're supposed to kind of reexamine your plans that period is right now uh it started October 15th and it runs until December 7th the bad news is though you need to figure all this out yourself so the question is how do you figure this out well this presentation as you've been able to tell is not about legal advice right this is really kind of more general advice about dealing with this issue which every senior faces but from all the folks that I've talked to um they they'll tell me that they'll first of all figure out what's your strategy first of all what's your Medicare D plan you need to check what it is now check what your premium is and look at that same plan and see what it's going to be next year and then compare it to other plans then you got to figure out your Medicare supplemental coverage what used to be called medx which plan you're now you now have that plan you could get a new plan next year um the question is what's the best deal for you among all of the plans then you want to consider Medicare C because Medicare C covers all of the above Medicare C covers everything that a b and d cover and some and the extras so you want to compare then what those extras are and the pricing of all of those extras against traditional Medicare A B and D but finally my strong recommendation is that before you try to actually figure out all that out get yourself some help um three obvious places of getting the help are the shine counselors that are at the local senior centers um the mass College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences uh located in Wier that provides advice to folks and and these are all for free and and private sector advisers um there's a wonderful one uh Peter McKay who I do this slide and of course it's in an and everybody knows Peter M because Peter had worked for years and years uh at the hospital um um dealing with all of these issues of patients that were going home and what the available Services were Etc he finally retired um um so that he could just play a lot more golf but also so that he could do this he provides advice to folks every year um who are to help them try to figure out what their new plan is is typically he tells people I can say he's he tell he's given me these incredible stories of people who walked in thinking that everything was the same for them for next year and finding that they could actually save literally thousands of dollars the following year just by sitting down and examining what the new plans were what the available plans were um so what because and he told me what you need to look at um is you need to look at what your drugs are that you're taking you need to look at what the drug strength is right doesn't make any difference how many pills if you got 100 pills that have only got you know one milligram of something as opposed to one pill that's got 100 milligram you may want to just take one pill uh what's the dosage strength and how many doses per week or per month do you use and then you use that to figure out um based on these different plans what it would what these different plans would cost you then what he tells me that you need to do is you need to look in the mirror um because the nice thing about uh Medicare um is that you can really try to estimate you can look if look look forward and say you know maybe I was really healthy this year but do I have operations that I know are coming next year am I worried about potential real changes in my health or in my health care costs next year so look in the mirror and and you need to say to yourself so how much risks do I want to take and how much risk can I afford uh many people can't afford these maximum these maximum plans if you can then the it's a budget question do I want to use that money now for insurance versus keeping it in the bank um get some advice the best thing that I can tell you to do is talk to one of those shy counselors I'm just using um Carolyn McLoud as the example because in in all of the my experience over the last 13 years at Myra oconnell um uh working on these matters she's the greatest shine counselor I've ever met um but talk to the shine counselors in your community or in any Community since all senior centers are open to all seniors you know it's not just by Community figure all this stuff out hopefully with some kind of professional advice look at the Medicare C options if they're available for you um and then add up the bills add up everything and just figure out which one is better you know because you it this is a these are Classic Insurance questions the question is how much premium do you want to pay versus how much Insurance do you want to pay for once you're once you're done or you know see if your current plan needs changes see if the your plan itself has changed because the old plan may not be the right one for next year uh and then buy yourself dinner with all the money you just saved by figuring all that out so I hope you enjoyed this presentation I hope you take my advice which is don't go talk to your lawyer go talk to the shine counselor or private advisor right do the figure this out or do it yourself as a test do it yourself figure out the the amount of money you were going to spend when you did it yourself then go talk to one of the shine counselors see if you came up with the same number so I hope you enjoy this presentation and I'll look forward to seeing you on the on the uh the next and final installment of elder law 101 thank you very much

requests from the chair of the planning board to discuss those issues at our at our joint meeting that's been tentatively scheduled for November 15th so we can talk about that uh uh but yeah so that's I guess the gist of it and we'll be I've not received anything officially just a phone call but I imagine that Trish is going to send something and then we'll I'll take a look at it yeah go ahead Mr Mr before so you said do you should there be anything that cons you you know should you be concerned about this I did not get to watch the planning board meeting I did get updated about it what I would say is I don't think you as a resident need to be concerned about this the project is still moving forward the consultant knows what they're doing the steering committee you've seen a couple of the meetings in person it's a very large group with a lot of interest and a lot of experience and a lot of knowledge so I don't think you need to be concerned is what I Mr Herbert sir uh oh okay Michael well do you have a a different question Peter um Mark no he knows where I'm coming from yeah I'm not sure Mark I I don't really have too much more to add uh oh yeah Mark I think we answered your question did you have something else you wanted to ask or well I want just want to see is there was any repercussions or anything that that was um understanding or not understanding at the time and just one of to see because I've been Le I've been going to it I've I've been wanting to be on it on that hope has a plan but I've been sending that forward and I have as since CE sending out dozens of emails which I think Mr herb is happy about and um I just wanted to say that and the other and the other thing would be the um there's there's meeting in a couple of weeks at the new Mendes cafeteria cafetorium um where is it okay well Mark I'm glad you actually brought that up because uh as of right now it looks like it is going to need to change and it will not be at the Mendes cafetorium um just we're still working out some of the technology features let's put it that way of the school um and we don't have we don't have the new space determined it might actually be uh virtually um we're still working on that okay but and one thing I would suggest I think we have updated in a comprehensive plan I was thinking of a general update so we can think about you know we want to discuss things under that one coming up soon right SE in your bus tour the bus tour yeah the Big Bus tour so okay anyone else for Citizens participation okay I'm done andan okay thank you happy happy happy after Halloween hethy after my birthday was yesterday great I made through a scary 66 years now I'm at 67 thank you all right great um so the next um uh item on the agenda is the vote to close sign and post the special town meeting warrant for November 29th 2023 so Jen you want or Michael going to present this so it's a pretty straightforward um warrant um for our special town meeting we always start with free cash appropriation the only difference um between what you have in front of you and what we will um post is that typically when I went back and looked at our old warrants um we started putting the um the table that shows the account breakdown so that has to be part of the the motion but sometimes we don't post the full warrant book until you know a week or so before so um we've included it in the in the actual warrant that's posted um once you close it and so our free cash total is 1,743 648 and so that breaks down um using our policies um for 25 and 25,000 into our General stabilization fund um 515 594 in the OPB trust account um 200,000 will go to sped stabilization account um and 931 689 will go to Capital and then this year um I think that we have discussed the opioid settlement funds that we had received um the way that that was set up it sort of fell to free cash because there wasn't an an account um yet that we could that we could set set up that we could roll it over um year to year and so um we are going to allocate the 7 71,3 64,000 for the opioid settlement activities um in back into our account so that we can do some of those activities over this year so so yeah could I just I'm not sure I understand that so we we're supposed to get funds from the settlement but we we are so it came to us and then we we didn't expend it in that that fiscal year so we don't have like a revolving account or another account that we were able to sort of roll year to year so did it end up in free cash now you're and re appropriating back in for the for the reasons yeah sorry if I wasn't clear yeah do hasn't authorized um communities to put it in a revolving count or receipts reserved um account yet so that's why we're having to go about it this way it's not like we miss setting up an account it's do has gu so that $1.7 Million number that total that you read is that inclusive of the opioid or is that okay all right I just want to make sure okay than question just question on the opioid is that something a recurring settlement that we think we're going to be seeing every year or okay yeah for several years actually there's a couple of settlements um okay that we uh were a part of and participated in um and this is one so so where would that money be earm marked for would that go towards border programs and things of that nature and Human Services so yeah so as part of the new like the sort of the um under Christen French we have the department of prevention and Human Services they'll be doing a lot of work cool so they can start new programs or whatever and follow through thank you one last question because our packet will we see what capital is going to be done yes okay you mean the capital projects yeah cuz there's amount for capit capital and we need to okay and you said the the full packet's posted and we'll be once we vote it oh once okay but it's in the full packet that you're going to post and then are you guys going to send a followup uh yeah we're meeting with fincom next Tuesday um go over some of the capital then and then the final can you shoot an email of all those figures and stuff yeah that would be yeah I can send this updated yeah that' be great thank you um the second article is just um the property tax exemptions for ible seniors we do um thank you article three is the senior tax workof program um and that just to sort of reaffirm our our program and then this year there's uh we're asking to be able to be able to um extend the number of hours that seniors can work and then also the um the cap amount that they can uh earn so right now I think we cap it at 750 um the law allows us to to cap it at, 1500 and actually even this year they went to 2,000 but we thought the 1500 at this point um and it also allows them to um work 125 hours and right now it's kept at 100 okay um article four is accepting uh a donation of land for zero Fountain Street um it's about 10,000 or 11,000 square fet I don't know if you want to elaborate on that b no well just um this is uh a donation that bill and Carolyn Bell had offered um this is land that bill Bell's father had acquired um I guess back in the day he was a fairly prominent developer in town and uh so he still has some pieces of property that he bequeathed to um to Bill and Carolyn and uh so this is about a 10,000 foot property it's landlocked um but talking to to Becca and Sophia our conservation agent and assistant conservation agent they thought it provided a lot of habitat value um because it's very wooded it's it's in the middle of a neighborhood but it's very very wooded where is it zero Fountain Street so it's like yeah it's kind of sandwiched between that and is it bellw I want to say it's B Heights but I could could totally be wrong about that so is that the Framingham end or the other end framing you know Fountain Street I mean it's towards the eastern part of town yeah so well I mean it's zero Fountain Street so it's either one end or the other but I don't know what way the numbers run on Fountain Street so is that coming from side so coming from Framingham Fountain where Fountain Street starts right side or left side um it it doesn't really work that way it's um so you have a number of parcels that you know have for some reason they're they're unclassified or don't have a direct address because they haven't been built upon and so they haven't been assigned an address so like I said this is actually sandwiched in between a subdivision which I believe is sandwiched itself between bellw and Fountain Street okay so bellw is the other side yeah Bell is right like at one from Street yeah so it's probably like so like Jody road which is in Framingham it's probably like right when you get over the yeah I want to make sure I had the right right map where say yeah we'll have we'll have a map and it'll be you get all office not it's is not abing the current Bel property right no so it probably is the framing hand yeah the other end noted okay but yeah okay so Article Five is accepting an easement at um 107 High Street and that is just to allow our DPW access um on a on I think it's twice a year um to be able to mow the property that we the town-owned property um behind those homes that we didn't otherwise have access to known as zero High Street that's funny um um and that's part of the uh property that was given to us through the ugc deal no no no this was no it's not near there it's up the street yeah this is um probably closer to the yeah the intersection with whittimore and High Street okay but it's um it's a property that was gifted to the town I believe back in the 990s I have to check yeah and as part of that gift um you know one of the responsibilities of the town was to maintain that twice a year so okay um so this helps facilitate that um article six is to authorize a home R petition to increase the liquor license um as as previously discussed um we hoping to uh increase by 16 licenses for alcohol um so this would give the board the authority to move through that home roll petition process and this is just for on premise right we decided not to look at oh yeah we never did what did we do the off it's it yes it says on premise consumption on premise right I'm just verifying right no that's good yeah this is like restaurants right this is that big increase yeah yeah um this ISS select board is it I'm sorry go ahead oh I was just going to say like I was just going to ask like I assume there'll be a presentation kind of outlining outlining like our rationale behind how we got to that number and all that stuff right yes okay and who would I guess who would do that presentation um is one of or is it I think I think you can certainly lead into it and you know talk about the rationale behind it and you know why you wanted to move forward with this and then we could fill in the details as necessary would it make sense to have Beth there to do because I mean she's the one who sort of did the research to determine what would be good amount and she'll probably be there anyway right yeah I just think it's it I think if if I'm a resident and I'm looking at it and I'm saying 16 liquor licenses I think the gut reaction is oh God like how like what what is you know so I think I think we need to be thoughtful on how we present it so just you know I don't mind I don't mind one of us doing it but I do think to yoland I think I think if there's like a formal presentation about it I think that's probably the better route to go yeah or at least the backup that we saw with some sort of estimate of why this is good yeah I I think if we presented something that talks about the amount of licenses we have left which is not that many um the fact that this is not really an uncommon request for cities and towns nowadays and then talk about how it impacts Economic Development with potential growth down the road ex exactly I think that would cover basically what you're what you're thinking we're going to get questions about exactly exactly what's interesting is Boston is about to do the same thing to the St it is a significant increase and if I was sitting there I'd be I'd be well that's that was my reaction when I first saw what what you people no blue laws in Ashland right and I mean you know the the warrant is relatively light you know and I think the only things that are really going to bring people to town meeting like like issues are potentially this and then people coming out um for the CPC for the dog park yeah so but but I could see I could see people not understand where oh yeah and that's that's already that's actually already happened uh Brandy because I've had several businesses in Town Liquor businesses question why do we need more yeah really why do we need more you know so but they don't realize from offsite sales not and that's that's what they need that's what they need to know so they were a little confused themselves so having a better description and understanding May uh you know answer a lot of their questions and ease their concerns so but that REM were you thinking about having a form for not a form but we'll do our standard you know like info session Town managers yeah okay um article 7 is a CPA um funding to construct the dog park so they voted to um utilize $215,000 from their open space account um that would have to be expended by uh the end of June 2026 seven for that project so yes we'll we'll have to be it'll have to be done before then but yeah so another thing we really need is we need a acceptable maintenance plan before okay this happens I mean I don't want to be like the what is it the skunk at the lawn party about right but but the garden party I think yeah we'll go garden party yeah but um we're still waiting is it the dog park committee that's coming up with the maintenance plan okay yeah so yeah they've sent us sort of a broad outline I need to you know but it's sort of maybe they could fundraise for some of the materials but much of the work would be at least they're asking that it would be done by DPW so I need a little bit more detail on what that actually is so I just need that before town meeting I think that's important okay yeah it's obviously a bigger lift then it's a lot of poop to scoop Yeah well yeah yeah I think they'd be responsible for the inside yeah like they have to be responsible for the the whole just dog yeah anyway yep um article eight is to extend the Riverwalk funding that has been previously authorized by town meeting um to extend it through December 31st um 2026 and that is it what's the remaining balance of those funds and what right around uh so there there is for the CPC funds there is about 85,000 that's allocated for the River Walk um and that would be um coupled with other funds that we have to do the second phase so initially we had hoped to either cross well initially we had hoped to cross f thefw um because of the flood plane change that wasn't going to work really feasible we started to really look at making a crossing at Marathon Park um there's a there's a pretty large Wetland that have to have a boardwalk which when I got the last estimate it was it was pretty substantial so what what this would be used for initially would be um to bring back on an engineer look at that possible but then also is there a possibility just to sort of go up Ponder Roa make a safe Loop lots of people Loop um go for a walk and then Loop into a sidewalk at least or you know Loop into the bridge Crossing because there's the there's the pedestrian bridge there and then there's sidewalks yeah you want to be able to reach the the station right safely so is there a way that we could potentially have um a path that sort of skirts along the Ponderosa side of the river and so that would be useful that would be nice um do you anticipate making a presentation that includes that kind of information a town meeting or like what's I think it's just an extension so so it's really a simple extension to finish what to finish the river walk so basically it's always Envision we have $85,000 and it would go away unless we extend the allowance to use that money so that's what that's all this that's all it is that's why I was so but this other stuff you're talking about is really interesting is that part of you know was that the next phase or that would be the next phase this this allows us to access this money to do that next phase okay so I think you should at least think about talking you or whoever you know laying out that kind of vision like yeah yeah we want to do we're looking at a bridge or we're looking at a connection so here's here's the concern the more detail you put then people go they're going to they're going to have questions and all this all this is doing is saying we have $85,000 left to do some work on this project and all we're asking is for permission to not Sunset those funds but extending to December 31st 2026 yeah all right well I still think it's good to lay out the kind of vision to people and just say this is you know this is just what we're planning on doing so anyway um okay any other questions questions about the warrant no are we ready to vote on it I move that we vote to approve to close sign and post the special town meeting warrant for the meeting happening on November 28th 2023 29th wasn't it go ahead you got M I'll 29th yes motion has been made in second all those in favor say I I I opposed none motion passes unanimously all right thank you and we have the actual warrant to be signed here yep which actually I'll just start that around um okay the next item on the agenda is discuss granting funds from the selectman's gift account for the employee recognition event held in December and discuss the date okay so so yes um typically we do this in December um so just you know from a date perspective uh start thinking about a date that would um would work for you then um this year uh we're going to ask for $33,000 to for both the food and the gifts um associated with the recognition last year it was about uh 2,800 so looking at just kind of some cost increases in the number of wards 3K 3K would be sufficient so what date are you looking at I know last year it was like the second Friday Susan did you have a date in mind we didn't have a chance to touch base on that well I would say either the first or the eth the first might be a challenge just because Thanksgiving runs so late in town meeting so the 8th is probably likely a better date I would I would agree with that so we talk Wednesday the no Friday Friday so that might be tough Susan because we got our department head meeting on the 8th and we're going to miss the November one okay um so we can push it I wouldn't push it later than that so we can do the first if you think that works best can you move the department head meeting at TH or no I could uh H you know what we could look at moving that to the following Friday okay so we're going to do the employee recognition on December 8th perfect oh it is the 8th okay yeah I move that noon no it typically starts at like 11: 11: yeah I do that I move that we approve a not to exceed amount of $3,000 from the selectman's from the select board gift account for the employee recognition event and holiday event on 128 motion's been made in seconded by Claudia um all those in favor say I I opposed none motion passes unanimously okay so the next one is update on the comprehensive plan bus tour that took place but also I would just add any other updates on the comprehensive plan that people care to make so take it away yeah I can do uh the bus tour um so we uh the comprehensive plan steering committee were 18 of us uh which actually wasn't a bad turnout considering uh the weather um went on a site visit quote unquote um and essentially it was a town tour um and uh first of all I have to give thanks to Ed Burman for securing the bus and driving the bus uh Kate jic also made us little uh field trip goodie bags I saw that was in the picture Wonder but uh it was actually I thought really good we went uh we didn't get to spend time at a lot of time at every site but the purpose was to really give people especially those who aren't familiar yet with all of the projects and you know the history of the town and everything it was to at least give them an idea of where things are and what they look like and and what they are and at least a little bit of the history behind the projects and the feedback that I had received was uh that we accomplished that and it was great we had an opportunity for other steering committee members to you know provide input uh so it wasn't just me talking the whole time which is great um so and I don't know Brandy or Yolanda if you wanted to add anything to that I I unfortunately had to cut it short because I had to go get ready for the hunt but I like the idea of it I'm I'm glad to see that it is up on the website so that if oh yeah people want to go do the tours they can go do that so I think and and as you said I think for those people for those committee members who are not as familiar with Ashland it gave them a lot of good history and insight into our town and I would definitely agree I think that it was um I mean I learned things and I feel like you know Yolanda and I are probably on the were more in the know from a lot of these projects than some other people but the feedback that I heard was that people really appreciated the background because it gave everyone kind of like a baseline knowledge of what's happened in Ashland over the last I mean you know really since the last comprehensive plan but the last 10 10 15 years you know even the history of um faford development and people hear the name faford but they don't understand what that really translated into and and um so it was it was a it was a really good it was a good it was a good few hours we we got out of the bus a few times it was really cold yeah not not a great day cold and wet but um but it was but it was a it was a good good tour and I think that um I think it was well worth the time and you know thank you for putting all that together because it was a lot of work um and then the notes that Yolanda talked about are up on the website and also not only is it like the sites that we visited but just some background on some of the things too so people can um basically get a little bit more more background on things that that that we saw so it was good great I guess the only thing for me was I was sad that you did my side of town first because I'm much more familiar with stuff there and then you went to the other side so I'm like I think about that Yol sorry that's okay I was only one person it didn't matter but that's great good um but yeah I mean I know there's a couple of other updates but but the other members of the steering committee all right anything else anybody want to talk updates with the comprehensive plan things seem to be moving along pretty well so I know you got the U it's not a forum what is it the info info session coming up it's a public forum so it's it's a it's a different kind of forum so it's not a presentation it's um more like a pop in pop out open house open house open house um so I think the um it's 12 to so it's on um December 2nd from 12:00 to 4:00 on the lower level of town hall um and it's going to be you know kind of people kind of understanding what the plan is going to be and providing some input and feedback um I know that the the working group met I think yesterday um and kind of came up with sort of the the umbrella of what this is going to look like and it's it's our first um real opportunity to ask for feedback from from the public and we encourage everyone that's a day as the Holiday Stroll there's a lot going on that day so as you're kind of in and out in Ashland um come you know especially Town Hall which is part of the stroll come downstairs and and um provide your feedback for uh for the comprehensive plan and then you know the only other thing I that I have is um that uh we had our last newsletter that went out yesterday um I would encourage folks to to subscribe to the newsletter if you haven't already but um it's a good way to get information and and kind of a summary of what's happening with the group but it's but things are moving things are moving a lot the consultant has the website up so that was good to see and they're also then meeting with people that they consider knowledgeable in certain areas I know Rob you're going to be doing that so and I would say for the event on the second it's really a pop in there's going to be information there's going to be members from the from the committee there telling you what you're looking at and it's really we're trying to get as feed feedback from as many residents as possible it could you could spend five or 10 minutes there or you could spend a half hour there it's really your choice on the questions that you have and how how detailed you want to get in responses the consultant was very thought it was a great way to get people in it's not your typical what we've done in the past right you sit for a half hour or 45 minutes and then you interact um certainly this time of year to try to get people to commit to another hour and a half meeting it's a lot here they're they're hopefully coming into the building anyway to do some shopping or just to look so they'll will there'll be signage and there will be people around to encourage them to stop in downstairs as well and if all they want to do is stop in they can come in the back door and just go right down the stairs so and I feel pretty confident that U there will be activities for kids to participate so I I spoke with the president of the Mom's Club today and uh she was really excited about the possibility of of partnering on this and she just needs to meet with the full board and uh you know other than that I think I think you know things are going really well actually with the steering committee I mean it took us a couple meetings to kind of get our feet underneath us and you know there's still some outstanding things that that we're working through but you know the last two meetings I think you know the energy and enthusiasm leaving those meetings has been EXP exponentially more than what we had in the previous four so we're definitely going in the right direction yep great okay um there's no other discussion there we'll go on to the trails update and um I'd suggested we had a number of um well a couple two two kind of meetings or events regarding um Trails uh this past week um and so you know the upper Trail upper Charles Trail imp present ation meeting and then the the Metro West uh uh Trails form so I'm going to turn that over to Yolanda to talk about the uh what what was it called it was the the Metro West well it was sponsored by the Metro West Regional collaborative in mapc and it's our annual Trails Forum so the excitement it was held in Framingham it was held at luring Arena if you have not been to luring arena in the last 5 years since they did the addition you got to go it's they have this great space upstairs so that's just one thing what was nice was so this the the trails project and I spoke about this at the meeting a lot of it there was the upper Charles trail that was being created so hollison was doing their part Milford was doing their part even just before Ashlin started doing this part the Metro West Regional collab collaborative brought a number of people not only from our region but from other regions here to Ashlin town hall and and we had people spread out and looking at maps and okay we have this Trail and we have that trail and how can we make connections and what connections need to be made and the the excitement and the palpable interest and and enthusiasm from that meeting and again I want to say it was in 13 or 14 has carried through we're now in 2023 and we've had a number of these forums we've had them almost every year since 2017 except for coid and because of the work being done with David luten Heimer who works for mapc and his landline project it's one of the reasons that the East the the north south east coast Greenway that's going to go all the way from Maine down to Florida is going to be coming through Framingham Sherborn Milford and Holliston now and and they're going to be able to connect into Ashland and do our portion of the upper Charles Trail so it was great to hear the excitement and the discussion so it's the the timing for us to move our upper Charles Trails project to a priority project I think it worked really well I think you know it couldn't be a it couldn't be a priority project as we did some of these other things we've been moving it along slowly now it's a priority project for the town and we're seeing this work in the Metro West area so Framingham Sherborn Holliston Ashland are working together to find the connection to work with CSX to see how they can get into Sherborn and then Connect into Ashlen and there is commitment from this or from this Metro West organization to make sure that Ashland's portion of the upper Charles Trail is easy to get to they're talking about what they call a roundabout if you've ever been on the trail in on Cape Cod there's a couple of points where it's a circle and you can go in one of three directions so that's the goal that going to be happening here I'm not sure if it'll be actually be in Framingham or Sherborn but there'll be a circle and you'll be coming from Framingham and you can either go into Ashlin and continue that way or you'll be able to go down into Sherborn and Holliston is it happening tomorrow no is it going to hopefully happen in the next five years that's the goal but part of it will depend on the discussion and the negotiations between Framingham and CSX but there's real excitement and it's it's it used to be like really far down that we might see this but it's it the the view of it is getting closer and closer and the excitement in this forum was it was real and people were excited and there was so much discussion and what Framingham is working on already so it's it's one of those projects that I keep telling people we've only been working on our Trail actively for about eight or n years it took Holliston 20 years to finish theirs and they had an empty rail bed and part of it was the negotiations with CSX I think once we see Framingham you know can make their discussion and and purchase their portion and now that we're actively looking at our Trail we you know will it be all off-road maybe not but there's there as the saying goes there is a light at the end of the tunnel or the what they were saying at the meeting was the we're we're going to make it past the goal right we're we're gonna we're we're going to we're going to make that touchdown and it's a little bit closer so well thank you yoland you're welcome if I could just ask so sure so how how do they help us what how do does their support help make this happen so it helps with the conversation because otherwise you know Ashland would stop at at the end of Ashland and then now at least we know where our connection into Framingham is going to be right so at some point hopkington is also being brought into the discussion okay how are we going to connect to hopkington and their Trail to then go down to Milford so by having a regional discussion and by working with mapc who this particular gentleman like that's what he does is he looks at trails and how he can make these connections so I think uh I think that's where the help is and financial assistance or anything along those lines well there has been some but also just guidance right they um through mepc they have a program called DTA where if you put in a certain amount of money they potentially could put in a certain amount of money to help with stuff they give guidance on writing grants and okay there's this they remind you that like right now there's a grant Cycle open we're not quite ready to apply for that but just the by having the advocacy of not just Ashland and Holliston and each community on their own by having the combined ad Acy of each town as well as our regional collaborative as well as mapc it can help this whole thing grow and eventually get accomplished and what do they help in terms of AD advocacy do they help with um you know conversations with private property owners in town um I don't think we'll use them for that I don't I don't think from that perspective it's more advocacy in helping us get material right so if you're if if we when we start going to some of our private land owners and the private land owners goes well I don't want that in my backyard we can reach out and say okay well let let's have you talk to someone in Holliston who had this and now has this in their backyard and realizes that property your property value actually goes up if you have a trail accessible because it now let you go you can walk out your backyard hop on your bike and do a third you know potent you know long term it'll be you'll be able to do a 30 mile Loop oh and then you'll be able to go to Framingham which will then take you up to the Minuteman which is in in Lexington oh and by the way you can then take that all the way into Boston and all the way to Northampton and and what does a trail um actually look like in terms of to be to qualify as part of this Trail does it have to be stone dust does it have to be it can be it can be either and you as a community get to decide how you're going to do Holliston is ston dust okay cuz they right now have decided not to pave Milford if you ride milford's Trail they are they are paved so it has to be one of those two things it's not just where I go out with my sickle and I say okay well that's an interesting question CLA it can start with that yeah we we'll kind of we'll get we're going to get into some of those in our own upper Charles Trail which we're going to talk about as well but um you're asking a lot of I just wanted to you know um thank you for that Pres presentation Yolanda the I was uh the only thing I I would just kind of ADD and summarize is that it was a great turnout from Ashlin folks there we had a number of members and uh um Beck who was there there was some staffers there were there and of course and Peter as well Stephanie our sustainability Sam that's right Sam Sam Samantha so we had like two yeah three four uh staff there Y and it was uh really um an energetic um meeting talk about about this Regional Trail there was food there so there was food there was food breakfast yeah it was okay yeah but uh one thing I would add just to kind of clarify or not but um so our section uh comes off the Dyke Trail heads into Sherburn um and then that's where the it runs into the CSX tracts which is the key area to get control of and and you know I was happy to see there was a lot of support and acknowledgement and understanding of ashlin's position this as part of that so that was you know it was all good news it was a lot of great stuff going on that was one that was one of your concerns in the beginning that Ashlan was going to be kept out of that whole conversation which was the reason why we wanted to make sure exct Ash had a voice in this whole discussion so we wouldn't be left out yeah so it was it was good all around and you know kudos to Yola and the other folks there that have been working on this for years and uh that oh the other thing I got out of and it's it's really relevant to us is what Len Heiser said and Yolanda spoke a little bit to that is like you know get a trail doing something it doesn't have to be perfect do what you can improve it later but let's get a connection going that shows people what can happen and that's really very relevant to our concerns and what we're trying to do because you know we don't have a rail bed so that's always been our big challenge so um so and the other part that I kind of lumped into with this we had you know as you as you as I think you remember that we have the we formed the upper Charles implementation team uh which consists of Peter Michael myself Tony Joel any Alvaro alv and Jen so we've met I think twice have we met we've met twice twice yeah and so we had a interesting meeting last last week Michael so I'll let you kind of start it off and summarize what you got out of that yeah so What's um what we've chosen to focus on first are the properties that are owned and or controlled by Ashland that are on the route and to do a deep dive into those and to see if there are any any prohibitions um or any obstacles that we need to figure out meaning restrictions restri or deed you know deed restrictions and and we actually turned out turned up one right now which is that High Street one that we talked about the easan on when we were having the discussion about the warrant um so we can't put a trail there so we have to you know fortunately that's not going to put too big a hiccup in the whole Trail but um we're doing a little bit more of a deeper dive into uh into those properties similarly um Tony and and Rob both went to the school committee um it had basically a reick start and Judy went as well and Judy Judy went as well so um and had a good disc discussion with them and I think Paul Kendall is going to you know now that he has all this free time on his hands is now going well they actually had a site walk U that's what Joel presented you know which is actually just sorry to interrupt but just to uh they had a sidewalk with uh Paul and um the members of the subcommittee and they actually kind of mapped out a rough route uh from to to get across the high school and on to uh so which seemed to be plausible and agreeable and um you know Paul thought that the school committee would support that particular route uh which I can talk about if people are interested but it's basically you know coming into the high school property somewhere near uh this this the cemetery property near the softball field and as you face the high school going around to the right on the ridge of rock above and then uh somehow getting over the Devil's Den area and then to the right of the and continuing to the right near the baseball back stop but separated from the baseball back stop and then getting onto the power line right away and then to Cedar Street so that's and there was kind of a agreement that there's some issues there that need to be dealt with but it's seems like a plausible route through the high school and seemed like you know students could use it and they could get to the high school so anyway so I interrupted no no I was aside about the school committee so well and I think the the one thing I was going to mention um after that was that our one of our next steps is to have a site walk especially along the cemetery site because that's um yeah obviously that's that's going to be a sensitive topic and um just kind of getting our ducks in a row with that yeah I guess the other thing I would add is that certainly it wasn't discussed at this last Forum but DCR is supporting and DCR is looking to work with us to help create our Trail through the State Park section so good point in both Ashland and hopkington state park because it's going to be that's how we're connecting or as of right now that's how we're connecting to hopkington section of the upper Charles Trail is through the hopkington state park and just to add you know rob you talked about um you know how there's comments that we should you know make sure we get a Trail built even though it's it wouldn't necessarily be perfect or the ideal Trail but um that also reminds me the engineering for the 135 sidewalks include space for a 4- foot bike lane um so that's exciting that's good because I think ideally what we would want to do is if you're in framing if you're on Route 135 in Framingham they have sidewalks in a bike lane and then it stops when you hit Ashland I think at some point as we're looking at our street plans we should do the same thing for all of 135 from our border to the hopkington border so we're going to have like at least the onroad stuff we're going to have bits and pieces so for example we eventually there will be a bike lane painted on Summer Street um we got bike Lanes on front and sherrow which I know are certainly not ideal on Main Street um but we'll start eventually connecting them and putting them together but if we can start laying the ground workor now as we're doing road work yep yeah make a difference that's exciting complete streets and I don't one of the things that um we did talk about at the meeting that's probably worth sharing I think um and the uh was you know going back to your issue with the High Street lot at one point the route if you you hard to remember but going off around off High Street onto the town land and then you know to the Boy Scout the big Indian truste season then hopkington Park that there's a number of issues with that route I mean big Indian access was one of the issues but there's a number of others um essentially the town land has a lot of restrictions on it so right now in terms of we're looking at going down um from High Street going down um is it wh Whit uh then to is it house Street then at the end of or yeah so that's how to get to the high school that's an onroad bike trail so that's kind of what we're looking at now so because the other ones really I mean that's the ideal route but there's a number of issues so that goes to it's an onroad Trail so that's the latest thinking which you go on the bike trail and in on the cape and you have that I think heading into I forget which Community but you you know the Trail Ends and you're in a neighborhood and you follow that around you go up over a bridge and then eventually you get to the trail again so I think people people are used to that if if you don't have an empty rail bed so yeah so anyway that's kind of what that's the latest thinking so thought I'd share that with people you anything else we should talk about we're going to schedule another meeting to continue process impementation team the other thing there is a number of funding available we've identifi just to remind folks because I forget myself that we have identified various sources of funding for the trail engineering next so I think we're and that's in Mike's spreadsheet okay got all these agencies that AR excited for us don't have money to offer us L of people excited yeah yeah well we're in a unique time that we do have we do have the funding so a lot of it's just the procedur we have some funding here in town but I think the other thing is it it's not going to be just this year I think it's it's one of those things that Trails have has become something that people realize is a good thing for for sustainability and getting cars off the road and getting people moving and active so it's not just going to be a year or two I think it's going to be multiple years that we're going to see this funding that we can then once we're in a better place we could apply for some more of the grants that would help us do more of the work and we can also like I mean depending on when we when we think we need specific funds and what it looks like I know that our legislative delegation reaches out to us asking us if there's any projects and things that we are looking for right funding for and I know representative Lewis has has been a big supporter of trails for us and as well yeah so I I think that that's another Avenue as we kind of get get moving through this the the other thing is we're looking at putting this on the tip so and tip funding for Trails is huge I mean if you look at what they did in natic and Framingham the the railroad bridge that goes over route n they they did that that was tip that was Transportation infrastructure program funding okay yeah that was millions of dollars so I know when we did the the 126 project the tip was kind of it was a long time time Horizon for that is that the same for something that's a trail project or is it a little bit different it depends on what they have so sometimes what happens with the tip program and I won't go into a lot of details is they have projects planned and then either because something's not available they might push it out and then they have money available to say oh okay we have an extra $5 million oh here's this program that's currently on a back year but their engineering is done they have all the land and they're ready to move forward and they could pull it in so that's where we need to get to is have all the land lined up have our engineering done for the whole route yeah go toward go for the go for the tip funding and then keep advocating for it and saying okay we're here oh look you oh bring it so and that might be another area where like mapc and the regional collaborative might be able to help with the advocacy of it because definitely they we support each other we support each other on tip project anyway that's our legislative dation as well big Ro on that yeah thank you so that's yeah that's exciting we're moving ahead so that's great um so the next is the consent agenda I do want to pull a few things um I think a the sessions I did ask Susan uh for correction to the minutes and also I do want to note that Tim Henderson whose item G is actually here physically so I'd like to pull him from the consent agenda is there any other items no no I move that we approve the consent agenda minus items a and item G motion's been made and seconded all those in favor say I I all right those uh opposed none consent agenda is accepted with the exception of items of A and G okay okay so item a is just a quick I don't know Susan if you have it or should I read the I just asked for one correction to my statement on on Israel which was just to clarify um um it originally said something uh that Shear added his own statement he hopes that people in Israel and US leaders use their power and wisdom when it comes as civilians in Palestine I I corrected that too he hopes that Israel and US leaders use their power wisely when it comes to civilians in pal in Palestine so um that's the one one correction I would ask to make so all in so motion to accept the regular session minutes from October 18th 2023 with the revision that Rob has mentioned all those in favor accepting the minutes say I I I opposed none minutes are accepted thank you and now item G I will um so um at their last meeting the Ashland upper Charles Trail committee did vote to recommend uh Mr Henderson uh be appointed to the committee there is a vacancy and I think um so he's here tonight and he wanted to come so I said let's chat with Tim and talk about the trail so Tim why don't you come up yeah come on up and speak into the microphone so everybody can hear you so um I don't if you just uh just want tell us a little bit about you know your background and relevant to the trail and why you want to be on the Ashland upper Charles Trail sure um I've uh I'm Tim Henderson I live on Woodridge Lane and uh I've lived in Ashlin for 36 years and uh I've you know biked them my whole life but I've been more a very active biker the last since the pandemic really I once I was you know couldn't go anywhere I I bought a bike and started riding a lot we were in Seattle Washington at the time but when we came back here it was uh interesting to learn my way around you know the the you know how to get around Ashland because a uh uh as as we've discussed here there are uh isn't an easy way to get you know you're on the roads most of the time and I got to explore the the uh Trails all over you know this area and there's uh was encouraged to you know get involved with the upper Charles Trail committee CU seeing what the the trail does in the other towns and to see if you know if Ashlin can if I can help any way to um you know be part of that and make that uh be a a real thing that would be great um my background is uh I my education is actually civil engineering and I but I spent 40 years as an aerospace engineer and I'm recently retired so I have lots of time to help if I can with any of this so thank you for your consideration and uh I look forward to this yeah questions thoughts comments go ahead so thank you very much for for wanting to be a part of this I think that you're um wanting to to join at a really good time obviously we were just having a a a good discussion as sort of where where the trajectory is going so um so I just wanted to say thank you for for for stepping up and being an official member of theupper Charles Trail and um it's a good group of people so it is it is you know I live across the street from Joel so that's that's what so so you've been living the trail vicariously through Joel right and I ride with the bike club and so that's it I've got you know I know Joel known Joel since he built the since they built the house so you know that's it so okay great well thank you thank you that's it for me question other questions or comments thoughts no I do just say thank you very much I have known the Henderson for quite a few years with through their children and that and yeah so uh you know appreciate your stepping up you know we find things to do in retirement don't we that's right it's always something to do people ask me you know what do you do it's like I got I got a million things to do I don't have enough time to be retired so there you go thank appreciate stepping up and doing what you want to do thank you that you like to do I G say this will be fun so yeah great yeah I would just like to add as um I think it's great that you're stepping up and I think I was just in your house you were there I want to make sure You' made that connection so well I remember the last name they are well this I got to hear this I didn't go to see Tim I went to see his wife and as many of you know they have a different last name so anyway by the way I I loved your skeleton in the yard well now that now that the Halloween's over the Santa Hat's going on oh there there you go but I just want to say thank you for stepping up I think your experience and and certainly now your enthusiasm for bike riding will will will certainly help it should be fun you know I I enjoy you know viewing from afar the the various other projects around town so that's it is that we really start working on the trail here this should be be great great great I move that we appoint Timothy H Henderson to the upper Charles Trail committee with a term that expires on 83126 second motion's been made in second all those in favor of appointing Mr Henderson the upper Charles Trail committee say I I oppose none you are appointed sir good luck you very much thank you for volunteering great and thanks for coming coming in all right so the next item on the agenda is uh Town manager report so um I can start off with the legislative meeting our quarterly legislative meeting that we held last Friday and um both Yolanda and Rob attended uh as well as myself um and Diane from the town of Ashlin we met with with Jack and Karen Adelman Foster and we were able to discussed quite a few issues uh Rob had brought up the NBTA Community zoning and uh we talked about the NBTA station um we talked about some of our frustrations with eversource and other utility companies um and as we all know we're not the only community that deals with eversource um specifically we were talking about the downtown project and how ever source is now saying they don't have Transformers which you know might push like basically the removal removal of the polls out a bit so um and Karen's already uh secured a meeting with ever source for next Monday so virtual one so it'll be good to a surprise to them that they well that was exactly my point Joe I'm like youve you've known about this for for years so um but anyway I thought I thought it was a very very productive meeting and I'm glad uh I'm glad we're still contining contining to do those the one thing I you know I brought up that the zoning if we can if it's realistic to tweak the zoning act you know this specifically the formula that gave us the 1100 housing units that needed or what it was it 1200 whatever it is um based on our housing which again just to review I said um you know it seems to be unfair because we built a lot of housing that we now have to build more whereas towns that didn't build housing have a lower anyway so the whole idea was that we could tweak that and she is Karen was optimistic about arranging a meeting with um uh actually she mentioned uh Ed Augustus who's the current Secretary of executive office of livable communities but um and so she's um she's going to arrange a meeting just to have a discussion at least with me and maybe I don't know Michael to look talk about the details and you know why what's behind those details so so we could understand and if to see if there's any room for um um you know adjusting that or changing it and then Michael you brought up the um the prohibition on Town land being part of the formula and I don't know if we had any more resolution on that um no I I did so what Rob is referring to is that uh I talked to Pete matchak uh last week and he said that municipally owned land is is now Exempted from being able to be counted towards our acreage um and so I checked with them this week and that is that is correct and then I went through and I looked at the guidelines and it's um you know it does appear to be the case um so to the extent that we were going to use Municipal land to help meet our acreage obligations that could be in Jeopardy uh the other thing we talked about with Rel well well it was actually related to the bond bill um the housing Bond bill was accessory dwelling units and just you know some uh ambiguity uh regarding that and what's in the bond Bill and just um so we'll be looking to get some clarification on that as more information comes out so with with adus because I know we've talked about it you know here and then I know that um there was talk about bringing it to town meeting um in a zoning change in general with with adus like is that how would do we know how that would impact what we would be wanting to I haven't had a chance well this would basically the state would mandate that towns would have to uh basically zone so adus could be built as right as a right in the in in the housing Bond bill adus would be mandatory good point wow it I mean that's a that's a big change that's a so we raised actually Michael and I think being discussed and reviewed but and there are definitely going to be three versions of this of this Bond bill that floats around so we'll see how the Senate and the house come up with theirs changing thinking mind of sure well I know you know I'm sure that their thinking is that you know they want to create housing and Adu is an easy way to do it it just may or may not have unintended consequences if we don't control sort of how those approval goes through yeah that's an interesting point so but anyway but I haven't had a chance to to to take a look at it yet it's 100 some odd page Bond bill then yeah search control F I have a summary that was given to me from or at least some of the high points because I'm on an MMA policy meeting policy committee I'll scan that and send it out to everybody so you guys can get a look at that would be awesome yeah we did um yeah Yolanda you weren't here for the beginning is there anything you want to add to this um discussion that maybe Michael we talked about the yeah no um but yeah there was a lot of good points about the bond bill um and um and the MBTA communities act any other did we talk about other funding or um other issue didn't really not so much talk about the marks and it was really more administrative like making sure have access to them everything that's all yeah so um so we'll continue that discussion um I guess we're still optimistic about being able to implement the zoning act pretty much as is but we'll hear more about that I think at our next meeting right that's my understanding Joe you think Fray my board report yeah sure well we could talk you talk about it now if you want or in your board report whatever I'm kind of I'm kind of sorry I'm kind of uh surprised to hear about you know the the land issue land exemp because that definitely changes the whole thought process right now especially in and around the area that where we're looking at yep so I can't wait to see what happens Friday morning yeah so it be interesting discussion yeah yeah for sure let me ask a question I I don't want to get too off topic but just kind of related to that so if we were to rezone the um the RTA the um RTD sorry um where we have land that's going to be coming back to the town but it isn't it's still in litigation like how does is thatc yeah I mean I don't know I'm just curious like that's an interesting maybe we don't bring it up and yeah maybe we Zone and then yeah it's not our land it's not our land yet that's right I don't know I'm just yeah we could we actually could look at the ugc property in even the property that wouldn't be coming back to the town and look at rezoning that okay I was just curious I don't want to get us off topic no but that's a good but we were going to discuss it one way or the other I think so you more than welcome to come Friday nope no I'm good you've got this handled you got it handled my friend yeah all right yeah that was a good good meeting I think we got a great legislative delegation there's a lot going on any anybody want anything else to add to that one no okay go ahead Michael no just uh the next on the agenda as an update on crime Trends or security issues and uh Ashlin is still a pretty safe Community or still a very safe Community I shouldn't say pretty that's where you got to be careful you got to choose your words carefully right um there has been though in massachus it's a a rash of of burglaries on um uh in South Asian households and you know Indian Sanka and you know um from that uh ethnicities from that part of the the globe and uh so obviously um they constitute like 15 maybe a little bit more 15% or more of our population so it's something that you know we're keeping an eye on so there's um that's really it on that issue I I just you know I I brought this up because I read the Ashlin Police Department's Facebook posting about home security and which I thought was excellent and I said oh okay so is there something going on and so I said let's discuss it and so Michael's just clarifying this is a general kind of advisory about and it was related to this South Asian incident where some people were being burglarized so yeah right yeah so and I just want to make it clear so we haven't had any issues here in in Ashland I just you know so I want people who are watching to know that they're safe it's just something that we're keeping an eye on and I you know I should also mention under this that uh you know I don't have the hard statistics with me right now but um we are seeing an increase in traffic stops and um you know hopefully we'll see a a corresponding impact in terms of speeding and things of that nature as well that's because that is a recurring issue it is it is so um update on the annual town for I just yeah so just let me intro just briefly I mean just um we had you know the Town Forest committee hosted I think was fairly prominent and I'm not up on all the details but it seemed like a a fairly prominent and important event um that DCR does this town forest and we hosted it this year and Michael attended I don't did would anyone else attend so Claud was there as well great so I'll turn over to you guys to just chat about it yeah I thought um so it is uh a relatively um you know it's a Statewide conference put on by the department of conservation and Recreation and this was the first year that they had it in person since the pandemic so uh it was even more special and we had over a 100 people at the community center uh from as far far away as Pittsfield and on the cape um don't think I met oh no and I met um some people from Northeastern Massachusetts as well but uh it was a great great conference that you know the beginning of the day was focused on presentations and and learning and and educational sessions um of which two Ashlin residents presented uh Cara Hume and also Jennifer shaken who is part of the na New England Forest forestry Foundation um Jennifer gave a great presentation on climate change and the impacts on the forest and and Cara did one on basically a round table with some of the Girl Scouts and some of the teenagers in town about you know Forest as community so they did a great job and uh just give kudos to the town Forest committee for um basically being selected to host this event and then also doing all the work that they did to to put it on put it together that was the be that was the morning session the afternoon session consisted of s sidewalks in the Town Forest three different ones and of course it poured but uh still there were there were quite a few people that took advantage of those so it it was great they can they can the town Force committee and in the town by extension could should be really proud of of that and the work that they're doing certainly great Claud anything you wanted to add to that you went to yeah no it was actually I I thoroughly enjoyed it um you know I wasn't able to stay all day because we actually had a wedding in the afternoon when it was pouring but um it was uh it was very informative and uh you know very interesting and uh it was nice to have ashin people presenting and and Michael was the kind of the MC host and uh he did a spectacular job so thanks I great I'm always amazed at your multy uh talents was he juggling or anything like that what do no it's just just did great presentation so that's nice um so no not for that one and then um I actually have one thing that's not on the agenda um and Susan myself and several of our department heads met with the Boston Athletic Association yesterday to talk about next year's marathon and um you know something that's always a recurring ask is if uh we can get more bibs to distribute to runners to fund raise for our programs and if we could get more money to help support our operations as part of the marathon and um so the uh baa has increased the number of bibs to 25 so an increase of three um and they are also increasing our funding by 10% to uh 880,000 with a commitment to um increase that by 2 and a half% each of the next of of the following two years so uh many thanks to the baa for that they've got a whole new team obviously since Jack has taken over as president and um their sponsor now is different we have prior to the 22 22 so we'll continue with the 10 the 12 for the company and then mean Nord Nord yep they get 12 and then we'll do the other ones nice um Susan how does that strike you in terms of I know there's been some issues or or I guess that's my question do you see issues with getting folks for all those bibs or that will commit to the fundraising or we've got a waiting list do you we have a waiting list and I actually sent out in anticipation of this conversation coming up I did send out not first three people on the wait list tonight I'm just awaiting hearing back and are they all Town residents or did you go outside of are there out of town res I just I'm asking because the running club is interested but there a lot of them live outside of town is there any Out of Towners getting bibs or no Out of Towners um only because we had about 60 people including out of town people this year put in requests wow did you say 60 60 6 Z wow that's amazing and everybody so it's all Town residents that are getting bibs it sounds like I think pref preference Goes to Town residents if there's not us that's so I guess that you know cuz we we've talked about how we distribute bibs and that whole thing and I know that there have been years where we've struggled to get people to run but you know sounds like maybe we need to look at it next year and see if we the amount and possibly do more and and you know more from those Runners well more so you know we we do this we do this um the amount of bibs to to Nord which I think is great yeah you know maybe maybe we need to just look at that so but but I mean I think it's awesome first of all I think it's amazing that 60 people want to want to run on behalf of Ashland and the baa the Boston Marathon is so popular it un well it's one of the it's one of the Premier marathons and for us to you know I mean I think I think most Charities that ask people to to raise funds are a lot higher than what we ask the average is 12,000 we asking three so that's that's why I think next year we need to look at I think we need to talk to Nord beforehand and say we're going to increase that and I think we need to ask our Runners to to raise a little more not a lot maybe it's you know another another 500 or a thousand but something like that for some reason something to think about it was an interesting statistic but it'll be 9,000 more that will be into the into the um into the runners account from these extra but we're also increasing the amount that we want to give people so yeah yeah yeah so cool very cool all right anything else Michael on your no that's it that's all I have that brings us to board reports we we can Brandy you're on the end this time so we'll start with you oh my goodness so I really don't have much um except for you know we've been really busy with the comprehensive plan we had our last newsletter um go out yesterday and um that is kind of like I'm I am the I am the the the the main conduit with the with the newsletter which I totally love to do so um it's totally in my in my wheelhouse so I guess I guess until somebody else decides they want to they want to do it I'm the uh I'm the volunteer thank you for doing it looks like you're going to be doing for a while I think I'm going to be doing it for a while I don't see anybody else you got about a year and a half so you're good we're good once a month once a month I can handle so that's so but Melissa's not involved in that is Communications so um my proc so my process is is that you know we really start the newsletter process when after our after our monthly meetings um and it kind of is like a recap plus other things that we want to make sure we communicate out to the public um I I have like I've worked in constant contact before which is our our um email um service or however we want to call it so I put together the the I send out to um to the chairs basically like my bullet list of things that I have to see if there's anything else that they want to include and then um I work in constant contact and put it together and then I send it out for a draft for folks to review and then Melissa and Beth are the ones that to do the actual like sending it out who are you sending the draft to um the draft goes goes to Beth Melissa Michael and Courtney and Courtney was like my um partner on this um so the basically gives everyone a couple days to review it to see if there's any changes or anything else people want to add and then and then we send it out so cool it's it's um it's a good little process so yeah okay well thanks for doing that um but yeah our next meeting for the comprehensive plan is uh November 16th as we were talking talking about and um and then we're just preparing for like the Forum and um and you know that's pretty much I think that's pretty much all I got so that's enough yeah all right Claudia go ahead uh thank you um well last week I had the the uh fun time to be able to attend the trick or treat here at Town Hall oh that too and it was uh it was fun it was great it was fun to see everybody all decked out and um a ton of people right that came through I couldn't get over the number of people out on the street 300 heard you ran out of candy yeah we had to make several candy yeah so that's interesting that that was awesome you know what a great way to get people into town hall and to get a little bit of you know feel like it's theirs right so that that was uh really great um and then the other businesses that also participated for the first time this year which was first time yeah yeah yeah yeah so and everyone in town hall dressed up it was all dressed up right everybody yeah it was good yeah there were some I took some fun pictures um and then I had the opportunity to attend the ABA uh dinner comedy night on on Saturday night it was pretty funny oh that's great um they really were a pretty funny group I thought and Cory is an Ashlin resident uh yes he is Cory Rodriguez lives here in town yep no I do I I know him a little bit and uh oh that's cool he brought on like four other people yeah three four now that's kind of a tradition with the ABA right yeah this I think they did it twice yeah this is I think their third year yeah it's at least this might be the first time in person um did they do it in person last year okay and I think there were two coid ones maybe yeah I feel like I did that virtually a couple of times I know I did the first so is this a fundraiser for them or what yes yeah for the scholarship Comm yeah so it was it was it was a lot of fun like said they did a great job um last week I also had the opportunity to to attend at the State House of citizens legislative uh seminar and um you know that was that was fun the drivein was uh pretty nasty it took me about 2 hours and 10 minutes to go took me an hour to get to the other side of itic oh my gosh was that was something I don't know what time of day were you trying to go in oh it was Peak supposed to be there there I think if if I wanted to go to Karen's office first I had to go for 9:00 so that's what I was aing for okay um but yeah so I knew it was bad time the training train I looked at the train and I was it's not that yeah cuz you got to take the train and I've actually commuted in there for a short time when I work for Tom and uh so it was uh but in any case once I get in there took a deep breath um it was great it was a great uh day and then uh and Karen gave us a little extra special treatment anybody from her District so nice so that was fun so it and it you know it was informative too um and then jeez uh no and the last thing I had was just the Town Forest uh the that great meeting for the the state which was it really was very nice feather in our cap I thought cool very nice uh Joe thank you Mr chair uh couple of quick things uh last Thursday was uh annual Halloween parade and party uh we had roughly 300 families show up it was uh the first time at the new school and it was quite the experience uh told everybody they made history uh coming into this building for the first time um they it was a great experience and um the design of that building made it a lot easier for us to do oh my word phenomenal and who met us there was uh Deputy dog with his big Sheriff hat Sheriff Paul he was there and uh thanks to him I mean we he just handed me a mic and everything was already ready to roll wireless mic the pH system was already built into this really nice be wanting to hold meetings there you know it's it was it was very very nice and I thank Paul uh and and everybody that is involved in Claudia for for getting this uh done for us it was very very nice we had a lot of fun and um every family everybody was there that enjoyed it and for the families that hadn't been in the building for the first time Their Eyes Were wide open they were very very appreciative of what the new school looks like and they can't wait to have their kids go in that building for which is which is great uh so thank you to all those folks who uh made it a great night and um this Friday we have the uh NBTA zoning meeting that ought to be an interesting meeting and discussion after hearing all this new information coming up I have no idea where we're going to go looks like we're going to have to start from ground zero and start all over again if in fact we can't utilize you know the town land type of type of thing so not yeah well the interesting thing is that the state did send out all these guidelines right didn't they help set things up and say what land you could use and well it was very it was very vague yeah yeah okay it was very vague so I mean we did what we thought we had to do and I guess my thought is just to continue doing what we're doing so that way if they allow that to happen we'll be we'll be ready for it yeah so uh that and um yeah thanks for doing that Joe oh you know it's it's it's a lot of fun I I enjoy it uh I enjoy seeing how we can try to skin a cat in different ways and you know make it happen for the so we're working on it um lastly uh we have a affordable housing trust meeting next week uh we had some glitches at Zoom so we couldn't uh meet the the following the prior meeting so we have a lot to discuss and a lot of things to do so hopefully we can we can utilize that and maybe get things uh working on some properties that we have and we're taking over so uh and one of them is a piece of property off of REM and myy way in galani drive that area that uh that house needs to be uh I feel bad for the folks that reside around it to be very honest with you but anyway we're working on it we'll get that done and um happy belated birthday there young lady so uh with that uh that's all I have all right thank you thanks Joe yoland so a couple things first tomorrow morning is the Ashlin Lions senior breakfast go I'll be there this time I missed it last time because I was away couple things coming up so the Metro West Regional collaborative we have a meeting it will be the Thursday morning after town meeting it's via zoom and our discussion is going to be MBTA communities Act and the housing Bond bill so I look forward to hearing what what our subcommittee presents on that Wednesday and if other people are interested the discussion is going to be what are the different communities doing how are they doing it and has somebody done something that we can then use okay so that's the discussion there of course we talked about the Holiday Stroll as part of the comprehensive what's the date on that it is Thursday November 30th I mean I know we have another meeting but I figure it's good to get it on people's calendars uh Holiday Stroll and then again this is a little bit early but we will be the Lions will be selling their Christmas trees they start the Friday after Thanksgiving and they will be on Front Street this year rather than over in back of the VFW and then the last thing is I missed the town hall trick-or-treating I missed the trick-or-treating but that's cuz I was at the haunt if you came to visit the haunt which was the Halloween scare that was done at the Metro West outdoor YMCA if you came by and if you couldn't figure out who I was I was a vet Simpson the first person you talked to as you walked through the haunt so um it was a lot of fun Friday and Saturday night were great Sunday not so much they made up for um but it was it was a lot of fun and it's nice it's benefiting both the hopkington Center for the Arts and the Metro West YMCA really good and that's all I got great thanks Yolanda um I just wanted to maybe just review a few scheduling things as part of this I mean or just talk about next meeting um I think we're getting the baa and gift account recommendations is that correct um and then I think we're going to do tax classification do we think that's going to happen yes yeah okay and our joint meeting with the planning board which it looks like so we'll have one or two items there um you know the assuming we can go move ahead you guys got something on the um communities act we'll meet with them on that uh and are we going to start with this with the joint with the planning board or will that be later I think so don't yeah I think would we do like 710 715 something like that unless we wanted to do tax classification first so that can people me did you guys hear that question you want to meet early to like like 6:30 or something well we started at 6:30 maybe we could get the tax classification yeah that sounds does that sound good to people I think 6:30 should work what are we all sorry um what are we allotting for the for I think we should have a time frame for the planning board section because otherwise it could it could extended conversation yeah well let's yeah I want to we'll plan on that our we'll discuss that at our yeah I think so because it'd be good to hear from these guys what they expect to recommend if it's going to be complicated and long or if we got something you know to keep it simple yeah simple so yeah okay good point so this is on the 15th yeah November 15th right and we start at 630 6:30 that and we'll probably do the tax classification before the planning board but we'll do the aim for around s 7 or so with the planning board okay any other big items for the next meeting and after that we have um town meeting of course and then we're meeting once in December right now we're scheduled for just once in December okay um the one thing I oh just up um I am trying to meet with um I saw mayor cisy at that forum and he is interested in meeting and discussing the MBTA Comm rail um uh the the MBTA Advisory Board and Michael may be there as well um if if you guys didn't hear the mayor assc has been appointed the MBTA board of directors which is like a big deal um and so I just wanted to chat with him about you know what his agenda or interests is with the MBTA how we sees things and also uh how he could work with with us and the commuter rail committee uh which I chair and also talk about his appointment of somebody to attend the um NBTA Advisory Board because Framingham has not been attending they haven't had a representative so just kind of discussions like that so anybody has any particular uh MBTA Commuter Rail issues or other T issues they come up with you know that be done with the station so I could add that we could add that to the agenda I'm not sure how much he knows given that he's been on the board for like three weeks but yeah did get some feedback um just with the shuttle that we have um that the people that are using the shuttle are it's great in the morning because they're able to get to the station on time the one thing I did hear is that um when trains are late and which trains are typically they can be 5 10 minutes late you know with some regularity um the shuttle is on a schedule and it's a posted schedule and so a lot of times the shuttle will leave before the train gets there so at in the in the evening no not terribly helpful at all wait from framing from Framingham to go back to Ashland it leaves because it has a posted schedule like if you look oh my gosh you mean they wait they don't wait for the train they don't wait for the train what they don't wait for the train so I've heard from people that have missed the shuttle to go back home to back the train and there's no shut there's no shuttle no you can't you literally can't so do they have to wait are they waiting a half hour or they're probably uing over to their car or or back to Ashland wherever they yeah so the driver of the vehicle doesn't know that the whole point is to get the people off the train J but if you check like the NBTA schedule you will see like posted times for the shuttle and the shuttle some common sense no kidding don't the trains also post if they're late yeah do you know L there's I mean there's texts that go out there's you know alerts instead of posting an exact time say it call it that train the 6:30 train when it arrives that's astonishing so wow hope it gets in 6:30 yeah but I mean it's it's not it's not unusual for the train to be yeah exactly 10 minutes L just it takes longer to get people off at various stops and wow it leaves South Station a few minutes late it just kind of you know anyway I'm just sharing that that's astonishing yeah well that's the wow that's thanks for that yeah could follow up on that okay um that's laughable in just some of the um just some of the invitations we've received just a um that I just noted um like Veterans Day we've been invited to people get that so I don't know if we need to um each person needs to respond yeah so everybody needs to respond and so do that and uh Temple Shar Shalom invited us to the installation of Rabbi Craig so people I I I um you know I'm considering that as well as the veteran State thing um I think the um yes same here and I have oh the um the Valentine's form we talked about we haven't scheduled but that's going to be in January right we're still thinking about that January 22nd oh you did okay that's St Stone 22nd well it's that's that's what you're proposing not St it's on the EDG of SK it's a Monday night it's a Monday night who knows yeah Monday uh okay is that kind of things people think that's kind of realistic and possible and yeah the 22nd y um that also reminds me about the MMA conferences coming up is anybody registered for that I know Susan sent something out Su I'm registered Susan registered me any anyone else well I just just think about it or it's a it's it's really interesting I don't know if I want to go into yeah so that's something to think about uh if you're interested um so I think that's have anything else so I think that's it um I guess I if there's nothing else take a motion to adjourn motion to adjourn second all those in favor say I we are adjourned thank you all

we're meeting tonight for sites and Facilities uh committee uh meeting and I know we've got a lot of information so thank you everybody for joining us and thank you uh Kevin for uh attending the meeting and Mike if you want to go ahead and take it away that' be great absolutely all right I'm going to share the agenda and then uh once I jump I put everything in a PowerPoint tonight just for the sake of um because there's a lot of different documents and stuff and I didn't want to uh have to keep bouncing back and forth so uh once we leave the agenda I'll jump into the PowerPoint and then it's all broken up according to the five steps so um five big items tonight kind of five and a half um Kevin's gonna talk very quickly about uh tomorrow with the High School uh then we'll talk a little bit about the DCA tour a bunch of board members were able to come out for that um and see the construction updates we'll talk then about the HVAC Grant uh we have some new enrollment projections for 20 uh I'm sorry that should be 2425 um and uh capital budget proposed list for 2425 and uh then we'll talk some about uh uh about the proposed operations departments budgets for 2425 it'll just give us a nice snapshot of everything that we're looking at moving forward in the year where we're expecting some of our big expenditures um and just some some things we're we're thinking through for managing that so um Kevin do you want to do you want to jump in on high school sure sure thanks Mike um and good evening everybody um so um I I'm having a hard time with access on my laptop so I'm joining by phone um so that's why might look a little different this evening um we've been working for the last four or five hours uh with the high school with the city of Danbury uh we've had a a longstanding pipe repair issue and I'm not not sure how long mik can provide the details um at the high school um related to our boiler system um and so given our um anticipated drop in temperatures tomorrow uh we are looking to start the high school tomorrow on a three-hour delay um this will this will allow the city of Danbury um and contractors to get in the building in the morning hopefully get the um heating system repaired and hopefully the building will be warmed up in time by the kids arrival if it's not warmed up in time certainly we hoping it will be warmed up before the kids leave um it is our understanding that the G building is not impacted because they were on a hbac system um also the auditorium could be an outlet for classrooms that are too cold to have classes in so we can move them to the auditorium um and then the block box the black box that three the Black Box itself and the two adjoining classrooms will also have heat because they're also part of a separate AG back system with forced air um and so you know ideally um we would prefer to have heat of course heating sources in all of our classrooms and throughout the school um Rich jalbert facilities team is uh trying to literally find as many alternative heating solutions that we can put in some of our uh more uncomfortable condition classrooms by tomorrow morning and so he's um literally going around the district now trying to find um Heat fans or um heat heaters to put in classrooms um he thinks he might have at least 25 to 30 that we can put throughout different classrooms in the morning um but again you know we we're expecting a significant drop in temperatures tonight and so we do anticipate that building is going to open up pretty cold tomorrow um particularly with no heat coming in um our hope is with um the sun coming up at least on the east or western side of the building I forget which side the the football field is on now um at least that part of the building will be a little bit warmer as it was um this afternoon when we were touring the school and trying to understand which parts of the school is going to be a little bit more comfortable than other parts and like I said the G buildings approximately a quarter of the building will be heated uh but the other parts will not and um and so we were going back and forth and whether not do we cancel to school totally tomorrow um or do we open up on a delay uh the reality is and for the board members who remember last year how challenges it was outside for high school graduation it's even more uncomfortable in the school in June so one way or the other we're going to have to get this day back and um we we're we we are betting that the work that they're going to start very early tomorrow morning is going to give us some comfort later toward the afternoon by noon 1 o'clock to tomorrow afternoon and hopefully we can get to half day in at the very least um so soon you will your emails will be populated with an update uh saying that we're about to send an email out to our families and admin counsel uh making them aware of this shift for tomorrow and the three-hour delay will mean that will give us the time to drop off our kids for all the other morning routes um so the middle school is second second tier elementary is third tier um and then that will give us time to then Circle back to get the high school so that will be on there um on the three-h hour delay schedule so that will not in that will not impact the other two tiers and then everyone will have a regular dismissal at the end of the day so wanted to provide that update obviously not something we're happy about but you know that is kind of the cause that we've been dealt and the city did work with us I guess initially there was plans to do that work this Saturday they were able to move it up to tomorrow but they could not get anyone there tomorrow tonight um so the three-hour delay it looks like the the best possible solution that we can find short of closing tomorrow thank you for the update appreciate it and obviously there's a lot of people involved in coordination so I know it's it's hard to get somebody like this kind of a trade at the last minute with these kinds of issues so thank you yeah for sure and thanks Michelle all right thank you Kevin um all right I'm gonna reshare my screen here and does everybody see a blue screen that says DCA yes all right so this is item number one um as many of you know we had a little tour of the site uh so what I tried to do here is mix together the renderings and then the actual pictures hoping there would be some sort of parody some of it worked some of it didn't but anyway we got some good artwork here so um there's the uh rendering of what the building is going to look like everyone has seen that um and then this is that exterior section so if you're looking there that's pretty much where that picture is is right there you can see the gym area is going to be just to the left um and that's where we came out it was very dusty everyone was was coughing and breathing into their sleeves so was a little relieved when we got back out into that parking lot there um there's the gym section which is again it's going to be right there just to the left of that cement mixer and so this is the second or third third floor I think um again it's hard to tell what you know what you're looking at here but um these are all going to be the classroom spaces um yeah it's just a big big open shell but that's good news because that means uh they're they're well past the demolition phase uh and and moving into phase two so um it's now a shell and moving well into the um construction phase that's the old cafeteria if you remember it where we actually left that piece in place um because it's actually a really good uh Food Service section we'll building around that adding to it there's Dena pazo our mayor Esposito with Antonio uh a couple board members there in the background um and that is just inside you can actually see that little patio off to the left there where some of that outdoor furniture was and this is that entry way if you remember um the original entrance when you walked in through the turn Styles those turn styles would have EV just to the right um that's going to be where the um I think that's the uh Emergency Services section um of the Career Academy and that's what it looks like now completely gutted and there's everybody right at that entrance there so the turn styles on the picture on the left would have been right behind you um Antonio is right there on the the front on the the right hand picture so just his back would have been those turn Styles in that original boardroom when you walked in and there's going to be our library media center and there's our wonderful board goodlooking board I think aren't we we have a good looking board all right there we all are so thank you everybody who attended uh it was just so I just think it's great to see these things in action especially when you've been looking at pictures for so long and you know renderings and trying to imagine how does it go from you know from this sort of corporate you know uh you know structure into a you know into a school and well we get to see it in real action so it's it's it's it's fun um and I'm glad everybody got to got to come out and take a look so um all right any questions about that before we move on to HVAC does anybody have any questions comments I just want to say it was I was on the site walk and it was very exciting to see uh it actually happening uh live and in person so that was really great to you were able to get the whole board and other elected officials out there I think um you know add a lot a lot of wind to uh to what we're doing here I think you know so just want to say thank you thank you and I kept asking Antonio and Dan everybody said it's on schedule right it's on schedule so the the the take away it was uh yes it is so all right HVAC Reb rebate Grant um so again if you remember we've talked about this hvat grant this came out last year um the way it's it's set up it's it's it's a little I don't want to say it's misleading because it is a grant um but it's really set up as a rebate and uh you have to have a project completely set to go with the money set aside literally sitting in account or in a capital budget somewhere um before you can even apply to that Grant so as we've gone back uh and and worked side by side with Antonio and Dan and and other folks from Department of Public Works uh we didn't really have a project that was teed up and ready to go that would that would win the award um because we didn't have these you know these millions of dollars set aside for these projects the projects that we did have that would have qualified for HVAC were already Bond projects uh that we're getting reimbursement from so they wouldn't have qualified um because they're already getting a state reimbursement so uh Rich myself and and Antonio and D we sat around just kind of thought of different ways we could still make some good on this Grant and we sat in on a webinar rich and I did a couple weeks ago um and and based on the the way that they've set up the guidelines we have an idea where we can come up and probably get about um about $25,000 back on this and um so this round to submission which is due December 31st uh what we're going to be doing is going back and and filing for rebates on a lot of previously paid for HVAC stuff that we had a lot of it things like air purifier stuff that we bought during the pandemic you're allowed to go back into March of 2020 so we went back and found a bunch of things that we spent money on and we're still coming across some of these Billings so right now the the total sum is just about $42,000 I mean we'll get a 63% reimbursement on that so it's you know it's it's it's it's something you know and and certainly for um you know the position that that we you know we find ourselves in always sort of you know looking for an extra dollar to you know repair you know repair some Plumbing or do some electrical work you know 20 you know 20 25,000 bucks will go go a long way for us so we'll we'll certainly you know take that if we can if we can get it now the you know the headline here is there's still two more rounds of the HVAC Grant so in a in a couple slides here I'm going to talk about our Capital project list that will'll be submitting up to the city um this coming uh November 30th and in that Capital project list we've identified specific HVAC projects so that when if and when they get funded will then be able to take that and say okay here's the money it's now sitting in the capital budget you know account um so rich I will be able to go in and put in the application and we'll get the award for rounds three and four just depending on how the timing works out so while this December's Grant isn't going to be anything that significant we're very optimistic about rounds three and four which will be next year and I believe the year after I think they're they year after year which is actually good because um once you get awarded the grant you only have something like 12 months to to spend it to to actually do the project and complete it um so depending on when that money is released and and all that we'll we'll just have to make sure we time it so that we qualify for those grants so yeah that's the hvat Grant and uh yeah we'll have that first one in December 31st all are there any committee members that have any questions comments okay I guess we're all good M okay so next up is our enrollment projections um most of you probably have seen this I think we shared a very similar looking uh chart at the beginning of this year um I want everyone to just see the trajectory um grade byg grade isn't isn't probably as as interesting it's just the yellow line at the bottom that shows the the total roll up numbers and the the way we do these projections there's really two things we look at um so for example if you look at the the two gray columns on the right 2324 YTD and 2425 you'll notice that the grade one number from this year which is 900 is the same as the grade two number for next year so a lot of times we're literally just rolling those kids up into the next grade level um but for some of these we do make some tweaks and adjustments based on new information that we have if we're expecting an influx of a certain grade if there's some legislative or policy change the prek and K numbers are heavily dependent on our demographers projections with look at which look at things like birth rates In-N-Out migration building permits uh it factors in all those things to to make a guess about how many kids are actually going to be showing up in in kindergarten um and for the most part they're they're pretty much on the on you know on with their number um so we kind of take those Pro projections and then we take some of the the internal um numbers that we have and and we come up with with our our projection um so our 2324 YTD this is uh this was actually our October 1 number so this is the number that went to the state it was 12,114 now we know that that feels a little bit low and honestly it is because we see kids showing up all through the year so by January that number is probably going to tick over 12,200 by March or April it'll probably back right around 12,300 so this 12,300 number we have here is a realistic projection about what we're going to be need to prepare for and frankly budget for for next year um if you remember during the budget book I uh we provided a a there were was a 3D bar chart and at the top of each one there was a little red box that said adjusted um some of that adjustment was the difference between what we see in October versus what we see in January February um because the kids are here and we need to have a desk for them they need to have a teacher they need to have their lunch and a bus service so um it it ends up costing whether or not it's in that October number so so we have to budget for it so we feel pretty comfortable that 12,34 is a is an accurate number for budgeting purposes um as we enter this this budget cycle okay oh sorry I just want to make sure anybody have any questions I have one Mike so are you saying that it's customary that after January let's say 30th we see 100 students at least minimum enter between January and may yeah that's realistic yeah okay yeah thank you yep okay so capital budget I just mentioned this a little bit before um so just to set this up uh I'm sure all of our our board members know about how this works but for anybody else listening um so our capital budget is there's really two ways that we think about how we manage our buildings um Rich has a maintenance budget right and depending on the year and what we think we're going to need to do he could have anywhere from you know six s $800,000 in there and that focuses on things that by virtue of the facility sharing agreement fall in our Bailey Wick so this could be desks um this could be door locks door repairs broken windows whiteboard boards uh you know installations of of you know smartboards projectors things like this rich I I know I'm missing a whole bunch of stuff flooring right we do flooring um I don't know rattle off anything I'm missing here um we'll do minor plumbing repairs you know all that kind of stuff um so that comes in out of our budget but capital is bigger projects right and these are generally things that will fall to City Department of Public Works so these will be things like hvx systems Plumbing major plumbing repairs um Stadium lights new Fields New playgrounds playscapes um you know exterior doors you know things that you know things like that so you know my general rule is if you you know if it's if it's a major system right an electon an electrical system a plumbing system that's generally going to be the city um if it's something smaller and internal that's generally going to be us there's always some caveats in there but that that's just a sort of good good way to think about it capital budget is really some of those big things right that that we need to do it's it's you know adding an addition to a school things like this so uh what we're doing now as we partner with the city is we're we're pro we're giving them a list of what we think are priority projects and then we'll work together on determining which of these sort of get get you know put to the top of the list the city's always going to have its own priorities so perfect example today is um the steam pipes at Danbury High School um that's an HVAC concern it's it's an HVAC a it's a it's a heating concern it's a boiler concern um it's not the sort of thing that rich and I really think about on a daily basis because it's I mean it's really like a deep system thing that ties into City you know water and plumbing and all that kind of stuff so it's it's really not on our radar so sometimes they say no no no this this is a priority project we're going to fix these steam pipes and then that becomes a priority project because it's it's just not on our radar but our our priority list here is really things that are on our radar things that we've recognize that we need so we went through and broke this down into three different sections and we thought about it in terms of just general buildings and repairs um security and then technology and it's not uncommon for for things like technology um to get put into this budget when you look at it across all the different city departments so I'll run through this quickly there's a lot on here um but basically our one-ear total for next year is about $7 7.68 million um and from the buildings this includes and Rich you can jump in here because you you have a lot more description and detail on these um but uh KSP so King Street primary um this was a big one if if you've been there recently you know uh this was a school that was probably built in the 70s when that open open school um I don't even know what it was called it was like a theory of of Education that Without Walls kids would have to learn with distractions and they'd be more yeah I don't know it's didn't last very long it was it was a trend it was a fad um but for the schools that were built during that time they are still struggling with trying to manage through this so um KSP is one of those schools and there are really not walls there's some partitions and things like that but it's it's not a great learning space um for kids that just need to focus and and not have distraction so uh we really want to put some walls at that school and um just it'll support the teachers it'll support the the the learning and the kids um so that's that's just a big project that we want to do right uh Rogers Park uh that elevator has been uh challenging now for several years so we want to just get it replaced and um not have to uh just hope that you know the the repair folks come in on time and and replace whatever the pieces are and that it doesn't go down um it's a three story building they have students in that building that um are on crutches I think they have they might even have um uh I don't know I don't know if they have a wheelchair I know they have crutches and and things that kids just need to access the elevator so um we want to get it replaced um and then you'll see here I was this is what I was referencing in the HVAC Grant we have four different air conditioning lines and one air balancing line um priced accordingly uh Westside is is a bit of a different one because they actually have all the duct work in place this they would just need the unit put on the roof and hooked up um South Street Morris uh would would need full uh full systems in order to work um Ace because it's such a small building uh they also have duct work we think we could do this one for for a little a little bit less money as well uh DHS our Stadium lighting there um is going to need an overhaul pretty soon um we're constantly uh replacing uh bulbs and wiring and um uh Rich can talk more about this but we we we think it's just time that that all those lights um get replaced um Ellsworth Avenue um there's been a section of roof there that's been leaking for a while we think it's connected to a problem with the way the solar panels were installed but uh regardless we think that that R roof is going to need to be replaced um Rogers Park is going to need new lights in their Auditorium it's not a lot of money but it's a tricky installation because um it's they're over the seats and it's very high so you need a c scissor lift and some scaffolding it's actually a very complicated process of replacing those lights so we're putting that in here as well um at KSI um if you've been there during or after a rainstorm you've noticed that there's some very unfortunately placed puddles in play areas um there is drainage there but for some reason that the just the gravity doesn't take over the way it needs to uh so we want to reset some of those drains um so so that the kids don't have uh little potholes and and and puddles um in their way when they're playing um MRP uh Midge primary um we've talked for a couple years now about trying to get this done but um the those pods that the three round pods have overhangs and on those overhangs there are IE beams and on those ey beams um sit all kinds of birds and um we had uh some bats that were living up in there that we had to clear out um so it's it's a constant headache and we just want to enclose those those areas with sopit so uh we don't have to worry about pigeons and all the things that fall as a result of that and um that's a play area for kids too um they'll hold um PE out there too when it's raining so and you go there and you see there's there's chalk on the ground and then there's you know bird droppings it's it's just something that needs to be taken care of um MRP also needs a new playground um there's we've made multiple repairs on that one um but it's uh there's just some some damage on some of the plastic areas of the playscape and um it's they they need a new one um sidewalk bus Park Paving um at DHS this is one we put into 25 26 it's a need but um we we just think it's better suited in 25 26 um South Street School um needs an office conversion and one of the modular spaces Haz toown needs a bathroom renovation um districtwide we want to do fence Replacements at we're saying 18 schools um there's some that obviously need it more than others but uh we're putting them all in there Rogers Park uh door replacement for the front exterior doors Penbrook uh we want to change up some of the window and blind Replacements there as well uh any questions about buildings before I jump into security Mike I I I just wanted to raise or underscore a point about some of the schools up here um that's okay Michelle please do uh so one I just wanted to mention something about KSP um Rich given his um historical responsibilities in his department for maintenance and security and Mike is also well aware um as security reports to his office now um we ALS o have some considerable security challenges at KSP with all of these open um classrooms um I believe it was last year we were able to install um doors in our um library media spe Li library media space um and so in the event we have any type of lockdown at the school we can get a number of different classes in that space now with closed doors um but that is not the case for everybody in the building um and and um you know I I just recently had a walkthrough of the school with the principal um and for the board members who have been in District for a long time or have gone through danburry public schools to Mike's Point earlier I believe it was and Rich you probably know all of the buildings but I believe Rogers Park stadley rough um and I'm sure I'm missing a couple of schools that were were were part of this open school open classroom model um and for whatever reason we were able to get the vast majority of them closed um but KSP is still open and I understand um there there's some issues and challenges with um the flowing of air from classroom to classroom by putting up walls so it's not just about putting up the walls but it's also about um making sure the there's appropriate air air flow throughout the school um the air condition upgrade helps us significantly at the schools for summer school uh right now we are really strain for strain for space um at our buildings um particularly with um special ed summer School scheduling um and with the new legislation we have to invite in more schools more more kids uh for summer school remediation and um and so the more schools that we can provide air condition the better for the system um and as Mike pointed out um including it in the capital budget allows us to uh maximize the opportunities available from the hbac brand so Mike I appreciate your leadership and and thoughts on this and Mike can you clarify the exterior front door at Rogers Park Middle School is that the same door that we had an issue with before I believe it is Rich can you share anything about that no actually um the city did replace the front doors there was somebody that actually had driven into it that door is okay but looking at some of the other exterior doors uh the doors and the door frames are are uh getting rotted so we will need to replace additional door there at some point okay thanks Rich Louisa do you have a question I do thanks Michelle um so out of this 2425 uh portion of the list how many items on this list are we looking at that are high priority and how much of this list is a wish list that's a great question I mean I I would say everything on here is high priority but um you know I rich I don't know if you you want to well what I can say is the air balancing for 300,000 uh that's actually a state mandate that was the original deadline was this December 31st and the state extended it to December 31st of 200 uh 24 and uh you know what's going to happen after we get all that air balancing done we'll basically have a report of each School of of how the HVAC is working and that will help us determine the the the most important schools to go after for HVAC upgrades uh based on the individual scores um the lighting projects DHS Stadium lighting we've been probably spending uh 10 to 15,000 a year just replacing light bulbs and ballasts um and uh that 350,000 would get us the LED replacement which would save us considerable amount of money um yeah any any lighting projects that we would we would do uh would save us uh energy costs um the K the KSI uh parking lot uh that's been a problem for a few years and that number um I'm having problems reading here I think it's like 250,000 um really the whole the whole KSI KSP parking lot um is due for replacement and I know from speaking to Tim Nolan he's been putting it in his capital budget every year um and uh he hasn't quite gotten the funds for it yet so uh hopefully we can support him on that l I'll I'll stick by my my position which to me it's all it's all critical and um you know I I I use this example with with some of my team Rich has heard me say it a few times you know I I feel like there's times when we're driving on a flat tire and yeah maybe you could get another block out of that flat tire but at what point does it damage the wheel and now you've got a $1,000 repair as opposed to a $50 repair I feel like we get into that situation a lot uh with with our repairs where you know could we get through another year well yeah I suppose but then if we are in a position where we have to do an emergency repair you know and we're paying you know somebody to come in to work the weekend and over the night and you know something that could have been done for 10,000 bucks suddenly cost us 75 um that's the sort of thing I'm I'm really trying to to avoid getting into here and I feel like while some of this may be preventative um a lot of it is really just like the time is now we we have to go on some of these things otherwise the price is just going to start to increase on them right but Louisa the good news is um the HVAC upgrades are U reimbursable up to 63% I believe yes and to Kevin's point if the HVAC figures into the walls at KSP which it will um that would also qualify can I just have a followup question Michelle yes um so these total amounts that we're looking at here these are not going going to get put on our school budget does this goes on a separate where does this get paid out of yeah the capital budget's a separate Ledger okay so that's coming from the city directly correct okay perfect thank you and again yeah and again thank you Louisa and I'll just reiterate this is going to be our request that will get merged with the p Department of Public Works requests so we're telling them what our priorities are from from a schooling perspective and you know how that ultimate decision will you know gets made well you know we're certainly going to lobby as best we can on behalf of the projects that we know need to get done Mike if I could just add one more thing about the pem window and blind replacement too uh there's probably about three or four schools that we have old single pane windows that on a cold windy day you could put your hand up to the window and you can feel the the draft coming in through the windows um we've been spending a lot of time and effort replacing Hardware um you know to make sure that the door the windows locked properly it's become a security issue that you know there's some schools you know they're they're putting sticks in the windows because they're worried that it's not going to stick um and there would be a return on investment with with the energy saving it's not as quick of a return on investment as lighting is but but there are some savings involved in that Thank you Rich Mike air balancing guess the air balancing that's going to be done initially for the conditioning analysis is KSP going to be a part of that in other words you've got the walls you said that that would be included the hbac does that number that one million the system that would be required is a new system you know to handle the yeah yeah I don't know exactly what the system is there currently I know in these spaces you have to have a supply and a return and I and I know for a fact that there's not a sufficient Supply and return for all the different classrooms that are in there so you whatever that is we would have to figure out how to section off that part of the budget and um you know and then make that an application for the HVAC Grant um Rich do you know what what what's currently in there I I would believe with the walls at King Street it would require some HVAC modifications to to ensure that there's a supply and demand in each space and as part of the followup on that um we would want an air balancing company to come in to ensure that the HVAC is working as it was designed do we have a layout or proposed layout as to what the you know the new floor plan would look like in order to con consider what the hbac system would be in other words as part of the analysis because if that seems to be one of the major prior you know like one of the main priorities here on our list listed first um obviously that needs to be considered if we're doing the air balancing and trying to get the grants right this is one of the first in you know real projects moving forward is this like a priority because it looks like we would need something like that a layout or something to yeah figure definitely I I would say that the one of the first steps with that project would be to get an architect to come up with a a design of how we how we would want that laid out including the any HVAC modifications we haven't approached that yet right we're just is there any Mike do you know if there's any kind of a layout that's being considered or yeah so I I when you go in there there is a there is is a footprint for a classroom but it's it's you know like I said there's kind of partitions sometimes there's a bookcase it's you know there there's kind of like curtain things up there there there's a number of different ways that sort of create a footprint for a classroom my sense is we would start there right you know and say okay does this work and maybe you got to nudge something a few Fe feet either way Kevin which it might be helpful because we we did have to actually close in one of the rooms at King Street primary I it was this summer um Rich can you walk the committee through like kind of what that room looked like prior because to Mike's Point the footprint for the classroom itself is already there and each classroom is separated by a wall in between but the front facing of the room it's almost like watching a TV show like if you're on a set of a live TV show you're looking straight in and there are no walls there's no door there's nothing and so as you once you come out of that room I mean you can just hear the noises in classroom chatter you know through throughout the the entire hallway right um actually there was a special ed room that we enclosed last uh summer and um as you walk down the hallways through King Street uh primary you have a a counter with a sink in it um I believe the orientation of the sink would need to be changed if we're enclosing the room because the the sink is facing the the hallway not the class room so that that countertop and sink would have to be changed so you could use it from the classroom and then build a wall uh en closing that countertop so I think there is a nice easy design to come up with on that I know that Lauren and I had walked it last year and it is very awkward you're absolutely right Kevin it kind of feels like you're on a set so that's what I was wondering like if you close it off obviously there has to be certain exchanges and you know intakes and you know and electrical too I mean I I you know we we said you know mil Ridge um was originally open pods and when they closed them off they you know they they did them kind of on the fast and cheap and there were only a couple electrical outlets in those whole rooms of course it was you know the 70s nobody was anticipating what was about to come but you know the that you literally couldn't plug in a pencil sharpener or you know a laptop charger so um yeah another consideration which is you know do do we need to add electrical in there is it just a wall that goes up so yeah a lot of considerations but yeah thanks for raising that it's it's an important important thing to start thinking about yeah I mean if we just want to really kind of start addressing it if we can at least start getting you know trying to think of incorporating it with the see you know next to rollment you said three and four or whatever I don't know how long it'll take but just thank you all right okay so I'll jump into security and Technology here quickly um so security as I've mentioned in the past a lot of our sort of day-to-day security stuff which is things like locks alarms cameras a lot of these get funded through our security Grant and uh because again those security grants just like the HVAC Grant they're rebate grants we started with a good healthy amount of money that got those rolling and now we use those replenishments of that 63% as they come back in to sort of buy the next thing and it is sort of dwindling down over time So eventually we're going to have to replenish it but uh where we decided to put our our Capital request for security here was in these four things um so if you all remember Raptor was uh we talked a lot about it last year uh we are are still waiting to put forth our district share of what we we believe that's going to cost us so I'm still you having conversations with raptor every week or two uh either by email or or phone just to check in um we want to go on this you know especially after you know some of the concerns that we've we've had recently we really want to push hard on Raptor we just need to to make sure we have our district share of that those Grant funds uh which is about $150,000 for the for the full cost the whole thing is going to end up being about 450 if I recall um jump back up to the top here uh cell phone boosters we have a lot of campuses um where you you just have a really hard time getting a cell phone signal um I'm sure everybody has experienced this um sometimes a minor inconvenience but in any emergency that's a security issue so uh for our security budget we're putting cell phone boosters and then also right below that line we have radio boosters um walkie-talkies uh just to to make sure the signal is clear it's not grainy um and that would actually allow us to um especially in certain cases here radio at different schools so if there was something happening in the region folks with the radio could all tune to the same channel and and communicate with one another uh so radio boosters would help with that and then uh in anticipation of raptor we want to get tablets and devices uh for all of our safety Advocates um so they have access to the system and and can can use it just as fluently as everybody so we're expecting about $45,000 for those devices and then moving down to technology um as a onetoone district we're constantly in need of doing refreshes um this is an expensive Endeavor uh but we have estimated that if we do a refresh every three on a about a three to four year cycle we're saying 4,000 Chromebooks here because we we're leaving a buffer but realistically every four years the entire cycle of Chromebooks should turn over 3,000 a year that's 12,000 Chromebooks we leave a buffer in there for breakage and Spills and you know malfunctioning um so that's about 1.2 million which we want to just start having built in year after year um and then we have to refresh teacher devices too so uh about $175,000 uh for the teacher devices um photocopiers and printers um that we have some very very old copiers and printers and uh we're looking to do a initial uh thrust of about $760,000 that would get us about I think 30 or 40 copers um we have about 112 copers in the district if I recall correctly so that would get us about 30 40% of the way there obviously going to have to add more with the academy so we need to start that replenishment uh viip we still have a lot of phones that are on copper lines um they're expensive to pay for the lines to pay for the service um to get everything over to viip um it would it would solve a lot of our problems there also Aren't Enough copper lines um so we would we would be able to to switch over to that and then over time we would see that money all come back to us Sentinel one uh this is a product that we started using shortly after the data breach over the summer um it is a without getting too wonky about it a a technology security product it constantly scans our Network for threats um it's just sort of like a like a watchdog that just constantly roams your network and looks for nefarious materials um something like this would have uh would have very likely caught um the the incident that happened uh and last but not least uh DHS we need to rebuild the website um as well as the academy website there's going to be a new website that has all the academy information on it it's going to be easier to navigate um it's going to Rebrand the high school um but there's 's also a tech reason for this which is kind of boring but I'll tell you anyway um when we redid our district website that old District website was on a server uh platform called intrado um when it was rebuilt it went over to the server of the company that built it for us called Lumi um every one of our schools is a Google site so that's the second server they're on Google or Lumi the old DHS site is the only one still remaining on that old server so we have to pay an additional fee for that hosting service so as soon as we can lift it off of there we can save that money now it's it's not significant it's about 105,000 a year but you can see over about nine years um that would come back to be more money than it's worth so it's it's appropriate to do this rebuild now when we have to do the Rebrand anyway when we have to change everything to work so that it meets the the Aesthetics and and the the information needs of theems so this is just the the right time to rebuild the the Danbury High School website get it on the right server make it look right and uh be prepared for the future so um all told are uh 2 2425 ask is about 7,680 th000 and that's across buildings security and Technology some of these we've spaced out over three years so our threeyear ask at this time is 12,1 $8,000 question Mike yeah uh insecurity radio boosters for seven schools can you give me an uh you rich give me an overview on what type of biod directional amplifier plan you have to for seven schools for 50k yeah I'll have Rich uh get back to you on that that's uh that's outside my my expertise unfortunately but um I would certainly love some of your Fe feedback on that too Mr Russo I know that's uh that's an area of your expertise so okay I'll connect with you offline can you add anything to that rich um um actually uh Rich Torres has been uh handling that I think he's been working with with norcom okay um so he would probably know know the most about that yeah I'm sorry Mr it is Rich Torres yeah sorry there's two riches we get confused would you would you feel if you feel comfortable could you go have maybe have Rich send me the 50,000 foot plan you know yeah absolutely how you're gonna accomplish that for 50k yeah absolutely okay thank you sure so any other uh committee members look can ask any questions any non-committee members I have a a quick question Michelle may I ask please K go ahead um Mike can you help us understand sort of like the process you you mentioned that this gets submitted to the city as part of a a plan can you talk about sort of like the steps that take place between what we submit what we end up getting and how we prioritize the different projects yeah yeah thanks Kate and and I'll I'll I'll I'll need a little help from Kevin and and rich on this because it is a complex process so um our our due date to submit this into the city is no November 30th um from there there's there's uh what their actual process is I I know there's several uh individuals that go through these budgets with the fine tooth comb and and they'll compare you know what does Public Work say they want versus what does the school say they want um I you know Kevin and again you know please help me out if you have any more detail on this U what that process uh actually involves in terms of priorities um I I I can't say I've I've been through it I know historically um the schools didn't really put their priority projects in this is a relatively new thing for us in the past um Public Works would would generally just say that you know this is what we've identified as the things that are are critical so this is really something new for us um and it was uh you know John Spang and and um you know Kevin and myself when we we were just sort of thinking through this last year we said we we need to make sure we have our our priorities up there for them too because they can't know what you know what's happening in the school so yeah in terms of what the the individual steps are once it sort of hits that that City process um this will really be the first time we're going through it together Kevin I don't know if you can add anything more to that Mike I might be able to very briefly oh sorry John I forgot you were on here I should have thrown it too so the capital budget uh process runs on a separate track from the operating budget and it's um actually created and and managed uh not by the finance department or by the mayor's Department to start with it's managed by the city planning department and the process is headed up by the city planner uh Sharon kitro uh she'll send out instructions deadlines things like that um once all the projects are collected from the different departments um you know for example police fire and so and so forth they submit their own projects uh then one of the main thing they they uh converted into a fiveyear plan uh some things they may say uh say it were a roof uh it's almost ready to go they may say okay we'll do that in year three or something else is more urgent we last year we thought we could do it in year four but it won't last so we're moving it up to Year One and in in the mayor's budget you can see the capital budget and the different five years and when they plan to do what but um probably uh the most important thing they look at is affordability and they'll they'll F how they how are they going to finance these projects and it's it's one of two ways uh they'll either issue um General obligation bonds could be for per a 10-year bond or a 15year bond and those might have some of the the longer term projects more of the bricks and mortar kind of things that's one of the two sources um the other source is the operating budget itself uh the mayor's budget there will be some some of these projects that will be just funded out of um the regular budget which is from uh property taxes and and paid in the first year so it's um it's sometimes how how much can they afford uh to do in in one year and and how much debt do they want to issue uh what can wait till another year and those kind of things then um the the recommendation comes out of the city planning department and goes to the mayor's office uh in the middle of February for when all other Town departments are due for included in the the overall budget that the city council takes up uh the first week of May thank you both Michelle can I ask one quick follow-up question please it was a great question no please go ahead um so I just want to make sure I understand John you're saying that typically the city planning department does this based on a fiveyear plan is that right uh that's correct and that's um very typical of uh cities and towns um around Connecticut especially okay so I'm I'm wondering like we've got this list here together and and Mike you were talking about how this is split across a three-year plan so I guess my question would be are there additional things that we should be adding to this list to make it a more comprehensive list for A Five-Year Plan I think I I defer to um rich and and Mike on that um I think they um you know they they encourage people to look ahead and it helps them to know uh what's coming up that's big yeah thank you Kate um I actually think that's a that's a really good idea we've we've tried to think ahead here and you know Al you know without making it into a Christmas kind of wish list um but I think we will talk more about you know before sending it up maybe if there's anything that we just you know want to make sure we get on here if it if it is a 26 27 item like I said we tried to do that a little bit with technology because we're starting to to see these are things that just need to be built in as a sort of cycle um you know it shouldn't be every year you know crossing your fingers and hoping um the buildings projects are are a little harder um just because you know you you sort of see what what's what's happening and and you don't know what it's going to be that sort of emergent project in the next year or two but I Know Rich and I have been talking through a facilities master plan something like that certainly inform a longer look um you know we do know of some you know some long-term window projects Roofing projects things like that so um I think I think we will talk a little bit more about that in in the days before we we officially send it up about you know filling out those those future years columns yeah just to add to what Mike mentioned we are working on uh putting out an RFP for a facilities master plan which would be completed either by an architect or engineer and after this facilities master plan is done this would give us a better long-term snapshot and would help us fill out the the long-term planning of what do we want to do in the next four years what do we want to do in the next five years what are the end of life of the various systems in the buildings thank you both appreciate it by May Pardon Me Al did you want to say something please uh I see the line on on the student Chromebook refresh uh a three-year plan at 4,000 units per weren't we going to get some of that accomplished from our our operating budget and we so I guess we didn't do that now we're going to opt to put that in to a capital expense is that cor am I addressing this correctly John um yeah we did um early in the winter uh before our our forecast began to turn down a little I think it was about $565,000 worth of uh pre- buying of Chromebooks we did last year does that sound like the right figure Mike you remember yeah yeah I think it was about 3,000 we were able to buy and uh Gina found us a great deal on them um so we we we were able to get a you know really stretch our Dollar on that one um but that was this year's refresh so those you know for for something that's annual yeah this would be this would be for next year U but yeah we did get um I'm trying to think because I I I think we did a K3 refresh this year uh we had touchscreen Chromebooks um and then we were even able to get some additional ones for the high school so this year we were solid we got we got our full um you know 25% of the cycle done this year so this this would be for next year so this will be a continual expense of 1.2 million at today's dollars yes okay thank you yeah probably increasing honestly with uh with inflation and just the cost of Technology understood thank you Mike is there any way when we submit this I'm glad to hear one that you just said that we're at least now kind of working closer with the city to try to figure out or at least be a part of this I I don't see honestly how we weren't before but now I'm glad to see that that is that we're gonna have more communication that way but like on this Capital um list here there are some items that are like aged right so maybe they were submitted last year or the year prior like how do we know which ones uh obviously the air conditioning system those are all recent but there are some that have been I'm sure waiting um is there any way that we can you know highlight which ones have been you know waiting several years and really you know for whatever reason you know looked over yeah my concern I know we've got a lot of and then we've got to consider mandates and things we don't know coming down the pike sure um but as far as some of these you know that are have been on the list for a while how can I find out how long they've been there or perhaps they didn't make it on this list this time but they were on the list last year or the year before I don't know yeah maybe John I don't know if you can help with with with that but I mean is there a is there a highlighted you know version of this that we can send over you know without you know being crude but well uh I'm sure they would take that information it's very important the um the portal or the uh template that they want people to submit under uh does not include that but U um I think they would listen to us we could make a separate submission or certainly add um other information that we think is uh Germaine I think that would be great only because I you know it's hard for us even I think on the committee to know exactly what's going on and what the priorities are so you know being that you know one or two steps move from that process then we might lose that communication saying like hey the board has had this discussion for a while or has been hearing from the community and you know what might be a priority for another department might not necessarily be the same priority that the board or that the district is you know prioritizing and just wants to communicate that thank you all right have any questions non-committee members glus anyone no I think the explanations have been excellent and I'm just enjoying the explanation and learning more thank you Mrs Cooper I'm excuse me could you explain John under the technology C capital budget capital budget is something that comes from the city's end of it hoping that they will pay for that's right and and they'll pay for it as I said one of two ways just as a regular expense when it's incurred during the ensuing 12 months or if they happen to issue let's say bonds for a 10y year five even a fiveyear basis then the mayor's budget would include the first year pay down of those bonds the principle and interest of that um but what we've seen is it's um as we looked at what's been approved for some of some of the other Apartments uh we found it was a pretty popular place to have your technology needs uh included um we we even noticed some software that was being included in the capital budget you don't see that too often um you like Capital to be of a a longer term nature uh maybe something that's tangible put your hands on it with last at least five or seven years but um the cost of technology is so high that uh danburry and other cities have turned to their Capital budgets as a a way to finance it oh understood I just wondering how practical it was with the City Finance for our our Chromebooks I'm sorry the there's a couple other items under that technology oh the copiers and so they would they would Bond those out rather than have those accepted as in our uh there we go thanks thank you Mike uh Chromebooks copiers printers s yeah I yeah I hear what you're saying you you would think that they would match and what you should do in in finance business or corporate is match the life of the asset with the life of the borrowing say uh and not not borrow for 10 years if something's only going to last five years that's the principle uh behind it uh but it seems um it does seem like the overriding factor in their decisions is um how much they want to take out of the operating budget it it could be as low as uh 300,000 a year or a couple million it's it really varies on what else they have going on in in the mayor's budget that year that's that's my read on it so it's kind of hard to say now shame on me but I don't remember last year's capital budget for technology did did was that presented uh we did not have Tech we we did um present a capital budget request um we were told it was not timely it was a few days a day or two before the deadline um and it did it didn't make it okay all right thank you John was was it maybe it was with you Mike we had like four and a half million or something what was the last requests like we're looking at seven what am I looking at seven million 680 right um what was the request like what is the typical request that we you know put forth to the city is this number significantly higher in line with like how does this look as opposed to last maybe year or the year before one of the things that um was has been missing I think and there hasn't been um I I felt the right kind of um reach out from the public works department to say to us hey um capital budget is coming up what kind of things do you think you need um what are your priorities uh here are the forms to use here's here's when you should give it back to us um I think if you go back a a few years Rich helped me out there was a little more communication uh back and forth but it just seemed to um be at a minimum um until last year would am I assessing it correctly yeah would nobody's really asked us for a capital budget um for as long as I've been here and you know with working with Mike and John uh we just felt that the Board of Ed should be more involved with that decision making process so so that's why we've really past year or two trying to get more involved in it so so Michelle I think the answer is it's there really isn't much of a precedent so we're we're trying to establish one now and hopefully that this number is you know kind of in the Wheelhouse and most board Boards of education do adopt a capital budget just like we're having in front of you and and submit it to their their City or town uh the cities and towns handle it a little differently um but it's very common for boards to adopt the capital long-term uh plan for their facilities thank you all right I'll jump back into this and there's just a couple more slides so next one here okay so this is just a little overview of some of the drivers that are in my department um number one here I I had described this before so on one side you have Capital which is that list we just talked about and then on the other side for buildings uh is our maintenance and repairs budget um and this is what Rich uses when he goes in there to do things like um you know we just had that leak in the high school and we had to um do some repairs on the gym floor um Ace when Ace flooded um right at the end of last year like on the last day of school uh we had to rip up all the flooring rip rip apart walls do a flood cut put new flooring in that all came out of Rich's budget um thank God we had enough in there and and we able to to just sort of squeeze things around a little bit um you know we had to make a few hard decisions but for the most part we're able to save most of what we needed um so this is Rich's Bud proposed budget for next year um so just to sort of run down here Rich why don't you talk through this one these are all you you know a lot about these projects sure no problem uh so starting off with KSI um and we did both KSI and milridge primary we did replace the flooring in one of three pods so my my long-term plan is to do one pod uh each of the next two years uh the reason why KSI is a little bit more expensive than Midge primary there would be a ASB bestus abatement involved in it um but after three years we would have totally new floors in both of those schools and we could go on to uh uh another school uh Milleridge primary veg that would be uh a security vegetable and we looked at it two or three years ago and you know we're looking looking at the outside there's not much room where that sidewalk walk in the road is to build outside but working with the principal we have another idea about putting a security vessel inside um Shelter Rock Wall divider right now Shelter Rock lacks a proper workspace for the uh teachers which is actually required in their their Union contracts so we'd like to do something with that uh Pembrook uh fenced and sheltered areas there is a section of uh I'll say fence or SE section of open area in the playground area that kids could run into the bushes and stuff and it just would be lot more secure to enclose the rest of that fence um air water filter replacement um as as we add you know get more air purifiers and water bubblers um the average cost of those filters are about $50 a piece so um it it all adds up and uh $20,000 for bottle fillers they seem to be very popular um so we'd like to just you know continue to add them or replace the the older 40 to 50 year old water fountains uh restroom repairs as as you go through the schools and I I'll just point out hazetown there there's a lot of old 50 60 year old restrooms that are very tired and could use uh you know a fixture replacement partition replacement uh Penbrook gym floor uh that's one of two floors I'll say uh great plane is another one uh that they have old VCT uh floor tile uh on the gym floor and and what we've done with a lot a majority of the schools is put in a synthetic floor that doesn't require waxing yearly and it's a little bit you know more soft on the on the feet um blind replacement um I've been trying to do at least one school a year with the more modern blind there's several schools that we have blinds that are 30 to 40 years old um the capital budget also blind replacement um I it so with the with the uh window uh and blind replacement that we have in the capital budget uh from past experience for instance when they replace the windows at the high school they also replace the blinds uh so that's why we included that in uh with the with the pem window replacement the blinds this would be just to replace existing blinds where we're not doing windows Thank you Rich you're welcome uh classroom counter replacement uh same thing if you're walk into a lot of lot of the schools we have we have uh 40 to 50 year old countertops where the laminate is peeled off um and it's you know beyond its end of life you know it would really make a nice face lift to replace some countertops in the classrooms um flooding and D drainage repairs um so that goes goes along with King Street Intermediate uh we had a few hundred th000 and that that's for more Global to replace the whole driveway um if we if that isn't improved in the capital budget I'd like to at least repair the immediate area in it's the exit in front of King Street Intermediate and what happens is that they have a storm drain that's in the grass um just to the left of the entrance but it's a high spot so the water doesn't drain into there because it's a high spot so we'd like to add an extra storm drain or do some grading to to lower that storm drain so the water will flow to that um it's another state mandate uh coming up uh where we're going to need to provide sanitary hygiene products uh the way the state law reads any restroom any uh ladies room third grade and up and one boys room per school grade three and up um and that's supposed to go in effect this coming school year um and then we have Haz toown exterior sidewalk to connect fields for wheelchair um there's an issue with the the lower playground where um you know there's no way for the for a student in a wheelchair to get down to that playground so we'd like to do something with that as well Rich third from the bottom is that an unfunded State mandate or we have some grant money for that uh that's unfunded State mandate and did I hear you right in the Boys Room anything okay yeah boys room too and you know I've been talking to a lot of counterparts and and everybody's doing it a little little bit different I've heard heard of people that plan on uh stocking them on a Friday afternoon for Monday and when they run out we're they run out they'll stock it next Monday um we're we're supposed to be we're supposed to provide both sanitary napkins and tampons thank you Rich you're welcome I just want to make a comment the last item I think is very important the exterior sidewalk to connect fields for wheelchair that's something that I see as a priority for yeah that's the uh and there there's also a elevator planned for hazetown too so that'll be the complimentary exterior component to that anybody have any other comments oh Louisa I see your hands out thank you Michelle um okay so I'm GNA like ask the same question again that I asked for Mike on his list um how many of these things here are we in dire need of of of getting done within the next year um and how much is this is something that's been going on because I keep hearing 30 40 50 60 year old stuff in these uh schools and I'm I'm sure our list could be much longer than this so um is this just the the more important things that you of identified that need to be uh repaired and does this take into account any other things that may come up during the year and also the the uh the Mandate for the hygiene I'm assuming you know I mean we have a lot of students that are um that are in need of assistance so I I I don't you know to to what Al said I I it may be an unfunded mandate but I I do believe that we're helping a lot of young kids with that so you know I don't have an issue with that at all but um I just want to know about the other items on the list and where they fall in the uh priority list well I would I would say definitely the uh sanitary hygiene uh as it's a state mandate that would be probably our top one on the list um you know I would say uh King Street in uh the flooding and drainage repairs for 30,000 that's very important as well it's been an issue the last few Winters um a lot of these items um you know we've we've let it slide for many years so could we let it slide one more year yes but I I think it's important that every year we do some updating uh just to try to get our buildings up to speed and and actually what happened last year is we had a list of projectss similar to this and there's probably one or two uh that we won't be able to do because this list doesn't include uh unforeseen circumstances like the flood at the high school and the flood at Ace where you know we probably spent upwards of a $100,000 out of this budget to toh do Renovations that weren't were not planned because of a flood yeah than thank you you're welcome Mike did you um did we have a discussion about Penbrook and fencing in that area just for security purposes yeah so it and yeah it didn't come up in this one we I I had a question about it in our last board meeting when we were over at the high school um so I'll jump back here so in the capital you can see right I don't know if you guys can see my cursor um where is it we had fencing here exterior fence replacement at eight oh at 18 schools come on uh it's this one here third from the bottom in buildings so part of this is we recognize a need to replace fencing but um depending on whether that comes through uh we could sort of use some of that for um security as well um I have where is it in here here in pem one two three four five down fence shelter areas at Pembrook we have 95,000 set aside specifically for Pembrook so this would live outside of that other fencing number in the capital budget um and this one is is really going to be sitting you know sitting down and thinking through where the evacuation areas are um also it's it's it's just good crowd control for for you know the play areas there so they don't have kids kind of running off down the hill and around the back of the school um but also just thinking you know more strategically about evacuation areas shelter areas if they're out there and it starts to rain or it's a windy or cold day things like that so 95 out of out of our budget will be dedicated towards towards that specific project and then we had mentioned that the wall divider for the work room that was also something that we have to do right we can find somebody mention yeah that's one that's come up multiple times and and um it's it's come directly from uh Nea on several occasions too and that they need a work room over there so we we want to be able to provide that for them so that's another one that would be considered a priority I would think so yeah yeah it's a small enough amount where I wouldn't expect something like that to you know to get knocked out the nice thing I like you know I won't say the nice thing but you know this is our budget you know this is one that that you know we create internally so you know assuming the you know the board budget you know gets voted through and approved you know this is what our our number will be for for Rich so this is this is really our you know an internal you know an internal you know decision that that we make we're going to go after these things and and then we go do them and hope we don't have another flooded Ace on the last day school I just want to ask one question you know how we've been talking about for a couple of years the sinks and making sure that we've got some temporary sinks I thought you were going to bring that up maybe but that we were going to possibly roll that all into you know our yeah maybe you can discuss that a little bit talk about how do we you know how we are at least addressing the situation for the meantime sure yeah thank you for raising this question because i' I've had a few uh emails and and questions about it um so the science labs at DHS are going to get renovated starting next summer it's a two-year process just because of the way the ASB bestas has to be abated you can't do do it when students are in the school so it's going to take two years to get through the whole thing part of that renovation is going to be replacing all the plumbing in the walls um the current drains are pretty much solidified calcified I'm not sure what it is but they're they're old glass pipes and they they just don't drain it's a very very small trickle so when the sinks are turned on um they don't drain they overflow and then we have a flood uh which causes more problems so we're always in this position when we're looking at something like this so we say boy they're going to be completely renovating that uh that building in two years time but we need sinks now so how much can we spend doing a repair um you know we we can't reasonably go out and spend $100,000 on on a repair um you know when it's going to be built into a a multi-million dollar project just the year out so we always have to sort of figure out ways to navigate this so specifically for the issue with science Labs um Rich can talk a little bit more about this we we figured out a way to order portable sinks I'll say we we identified portable sinks as a workaround and the city was able to order I think a dozen or so of them I'm not exactly sure on the number um and then once they come they they literally can just get hooked up it's you know it looks like a sink it works like a sink except the water sources are are portable you have a clean water and a gray water tank um you can use it for the lab and then you can roll it down the hall and move it into the next Lab and then the kids can have it in there so is it is it a a perfect solution no um but but given you know the limited resources we have and and you know not want to throw bad money after good um or is it good money after bad I can never get that one right uh you know it just didn't make sense to go and and have a you know you know $100,000 plumbing repair for something that was going to be essentially gutted in in a you know in a year's time so uh Rick I think you rich I'm sorry I think you have an update on the the order we hear it's coming in next week yes um I spoke to Sean this week and they should be in at some point next week um and as Mike said you know it's not an ideal situation it be a little bit more maintenance on my staff's part you know filling the water and emptying it the water but it does create a solution uh that they'll be able to stick to the curriculum for for this coming year until they can get the permanent sinks and I'm sure we can always use them at other schools uh down the road so they they will come in handy fantastic are we so we purchased them we're not leasing them we're we purchased each individual unit uh Public Works purchase them or I should say public buildings purchase them that's yes that's what I meant thank you um I'm just ecstatic about it I think that's fantastic I know it's not the perfect solution but you know we've s at board meetings when they say as soon as it gets cold that's it they shut it down from November yeah today till April and that they can't follow the so I'm really I know it's not ideal but at least they have water and they can you know get through um at least part of the curriculum this way thank you thank you for your solution course we had to get creative on that one I think that's great that's do so Michelle you actually brought up a great point because in the in the science rooms at Rogers Park because they're on a exterior uninsulated wall they do shut down the water so when we're done with those at the high school we'll be able to uh redeploy them at Rogers Park and they can have their curriculum throughout the winter that's what Mike and I were discussing about a week or two ago so I'm I'm really excited to hear that they were purchased already because we were saying you know if they can be rolled around or move you know rotate that'd be great so I just want to say thank you because I know it's been something since I've been on the board I've been hearing about and I'm just glad that we at least have some sort of resolution you know until we have the the finished the real finished prod yeah important thing is they'll be able to get through the curriculum so that's what matters to me yeah thank you all right so the last piece of this can I question I'm sorry sure yeah what's the lifespan on these sinks oh good question Rich do you know I'm not exactly sure but I would think we should be able to get uh probably 10 years out of them as long as they're taken care of properly I I was actually it's funny Louise I I was in my daughter's preschool uh last week for our open house night and um I noticed they had a little one that was for like twoy olds and it was there and it cuz it's in the basement of a church there was no Plumbing or any hookups in that room but they turned it into a preschool room and were able to do it because they had this this little cute little sink and it's like a looks like it been there for a while too so um I think 10 years is a is a good a good bet all right and then uh I wanted to just do a little comparison of what identified are some of the big drivers of my my department budget um so without going into the you know the FTE and everything I I wanted to run through sort of four big areas here for me um safety Advocates uh it's it's an ongoing um discussion uh we're currently budgeted for 41 um we're struggling to hire all 41 it seems like right when we get close we always lose a few right away um but we're going to increase that budget number to 43 positions and then uh that um that group is up for a contract renegotiation this year so I've added in a small growth increase um just so we can have a a pretty close ballpark number but we're expecting to be at about 1, 342,000 on safety advocates for next year and that'll be 43 total so that'll be adding two more at the high school three at each middle and then one at each Elementary but with the additionals at the middle and the high school it gives us a lot more flexibility for sick days leave vacation you know whenever we're we're missing a few guys um that gives us a lot more cushion to to pull and and and cover positions uh facilities repairs you just saw Rich's uh budget line here it was 684 last year um we gave it just a about oh is it was actually s yeah 780 so just a nice um $96,000 increase um these things have to be done so um IT services this is one I wanted to flag because it is significant now this is separate from devices I I put the device replenishment at the bottom those are the numbers that that um we just shared a moment ago um but it services in light of the summer that we had we we really want to beef up our cyber security um so we're doing some reassessment of our current Services um and looking for for places where we can just um have just a a little bit more security that Sentinel one is is is a place that that um we put into the capital budget but number of services like that that that we just believe will keep our our systems more secure so um that's going to increase to about $685,000 next year and those are the the big drivers for operations um we expect most other things to well they won't be flat but positions all that kind of stuff is going to be relatively the same and um salaries will just roll over per the um for the contracts that's it that's the end of my presentation all right anybody else with any final questions any on the committee or anybody who's not on the committee Julie or anyone okay thank you I have a question so when I'm sorry that will be for Mr sing when can we get an update because I noticed and everybody has asked about when can we get an update and um from the top um from the whole list both of them from the capital and from the school budget um um when can we get an update and when do we know I mean the start and the end of each one of this um projects great question so our our budget will know I mean is as the the uh board starts to see the board the budget presentations in January and February as soon as the budget is voted through city council we'll know um for example if these these facilities lines are on here if Rich gets his 780 We're Off to the Races we know those will all be the projects that get done um Capital could be a little bit more challenging is JN still on here I think duck off um I think he talked a little bit about the timeline I think we we know around January or February and just a little you know what I'm hoping is that when we see that list if we identify a priority project that didn't get funded I'm hoping we still have time to run back and say oh maybe we can still slip it in here somewhere or you know move Rich's line a little bit up or down here um so that one as I understand it January February is when we'll learn about the capital projects perfect thank you that's it all right well I want to thank everybody for coming tonight um it's 7:33 I'm looking to adjourn the meeting anybody so move um comment please who was that goddess no comment from Al Russo oh Al sorry I couldn't hear you Al I can't hear you I'm sorry who made the motion I don't know is there a motion did anybody was it Al I'll make Mo I wanted to comment before we go we adjourn Al you're are you seconding no I wanted to make a comment to ask question before we adjourn please I I couldn't hear you I guess it's a bad connection please go ahead ask your question uh Mike did I understand it other words we'll try if we have any excess money in our budget we'll try to spend it just accomplish some of these capital capital expenses um I can't answer that exactly but what I what I what I would say is that if if we've identified a project in capital which we know we can't live without I would that doesn't get funded I would certainly sit back down with Rich and John and try to rework his his part to see if there's a way to fit it in or at least you know find some some way to do you know phase one of a three-year build you know something like that because um you know I I really do see these these two lists even though you know one is City money one is our money I really do see them as these are things that we need to do to keep the school up and running um so I I you know for you know I I I hate to spend our limited budget money in a place where you know I know it can be funded by Capital so we try not to do that but you know Plumbing's a perfect example you know there were there were places we just needed the sinks to work and we had to dip into into Rich's budget to do that um I didn't like to but we needed to get kids to wash their hands you know so um you know when when we have to we will but um you know it's not a habit I want to get into by any means right U my my my thought is and I'm not passing judgment I'm just expressing an opinion sure that not ping Plumbing notwithstanding uh some of the other op options are if we items if we do this that um we're we're already asking the city for three million or three million whatever what is out of reserves and and we're kind of under the scope you I would hate to jeopardize that but just just a thought not not a uh just expressing a a thought not yeah an opinion uh but thank you yeah thank you Mr Russo that's well received I I I I definitely hear that and and and that is part of our our calculus when we come up with these lists too and um you know you know and I I I want to make sure we're not asking for the Taj Mahal or it doesn't appear that we ever are you know these are you know things that we need so thank you for the for the thought um and I just want to thank the board this is really a helpful conversation just the feedback and and you know the ideas and suggestions and and you know people will send me an email about oh I was just over here I saw that this isn't working or what's going on with the the swing set or you know these are all great things to hear because there's sort of official channels that they come through through rich work orders whatever but um you know when when I hear that people are out there and they see you know we need some wood chips over at Shelter Rock or whatever it is you know um it's it's just I I like hearing those things because they can just be a sort of second layer to make sure we're not missing these things so thank you for your feedback and the suggestions um both on the facilities and and just also just guidance and how to think about you know presenting some of this stuff um everybody has a you know a a very good understanding of you know just how these budgets work and you know how how the district Works alongside city council and I'm always always uh interested in in in getting thoughts and about how to make these things work better so thank you all thank you all right so motion to adjourn second Al second by Al all right thank you very much it is uh 7:37

e all right here we go good evening I'm ready now uh I will call to order the uh November 1st 2023 uh chica unified school board meeting and workshop thank you uh and I will ask for everybody to please stand for the flag salute all righty um the next item on our agenda is announcements are there any board members that have announcements to make at this time okay uh seeing none we'll move along to the uh next item which is the consent calendar uh is there anybody that would like to pull an item from consent this evening okay do we have public comments on consent uh seeing none I'll ask for a motion on the consent calendar I'll move of acceptance of the consent calendar okay we have a motion by member Lando a second and a second by member conin any further discussion board okay those in favor of approval of the consent Calendar please uh let's do a Voice vote starting with Mr Lando Lando I tennis I Dolby I Robinson I Conan I all right it's unanimous it passes we'll move on to item number four item four is the board Workshop uh this is an informational item the November board Workshop topic is the review of the 2223 chica unified results from the California assessment of student performance and progress um that's the Casp I'm to prevented prevented W we're going to prevent it right no I'm just kidding presented by Tim Caris good evening there we go right nice and Loud um thank you for bearing with with us I moved over here just to make sure I had connection to the keyboard and the mouse um this evening um we're going to be discussing the TW spring 2023 uh Casp results that were released publicly on October 18th in smarter balanced English and math as well as the California science test results that were not released publicly but we would like to include those in tonight's presentation um as as well so tonight we're going to talk about um where cast fits into to our overall U use of Assessments our assessment system in Chico Unified I'll give you a brief overview of the cast system as a whole talk about the data life cycle in Chico Unified um from the time that we test to the time to how we use the data how we analyze it um and use it on an ongoing basis in future years then finally we will get to uh our Chico Unified English language arts and math publicly released aggregated results from the state as well as the California science test those results will were locally aggregated by us there's been no public release of the science test scores so where cast F fits into a a balanced assessment system um the first and most important piece of an assessment system is formative classroom assessment this is Teachers um uh giving able to give quick assessments that may not look anything like a bubble test or a computer online test these are checks for understanding and allow the teacher to give timely feedback by far the mo most important piece of assessment mment in K12 education next we have our formative um and summative common benchmark assessments in Chico Unified we are fortunate enough to have a number of DLC members here if you could raise your hands real quick and these are the folks some of the folks not all DLC members are here but that that group as a whole um decides what assessments are important enough for every every teacher across a grade level or a grade level span or Department to give in Chico Unified and assists with the implementation of those assessments we use those um in order to keep keep tabs on our on our kids learning throughout the year in a standardized fashion across the district so that we can uh collaborate across sites collaborate within departments within grade levels at the elementary and essentially we're we're checking for understanding and making sure our students students are ready for the annual Summit of Assessments number the third bullet there and that in chica unified is the California assessment of student performance and progress and that's a mouthful so we just say Casp and that those are the only true sumita of Assessments um at times we will utilize reading level assessments um locally given and managed reading level assessments as a sumita at the end of the year but for the most part our summative assessments rest in the Casp uh system so there's many components to the Casp system um the most most people are familiar with smarter balanced English and math um also testing English and math for our students with the most severe disabilities is the California alternate alternate assessment the C for science um grades five8 and 11 are administered the California science test or cast um the California alternate assessment for science also um is meant to be given to those students with the most severe disabilities we also have the Spanish uh reading we also have the California Spanish spish assessment administered in Chico it currently it's only administered by rosale it is a test in Spanish um what we're going to focus on tonight is English and math smarter balanced and the California science test no other uh like I mentioned earlier we have state aggregated results for Math and um language arts but not for science implications of of the results um first of all this data is shown in a different form on this on the California state dashboard and the dashboard will come out in mid mid December December 15th and that is what's used by the by the state to hold us accountable for what we are doing um there's both both uh state and feder federal accountability measures um that are based on our dashboard data so this data as it comes out um is really to public publicly release this data to the whole state the whole world um allow us to view aggregate results and compare to other other school districts it's used as a college readiness measure um used for English Lang English learner reclassification and really what we use this data for is a more of AO broad programmatic evaluation where are holes essentially is what we're looking for and what do we need to do more of what's going well um teachers and uh other collaborative groups such as DLC also look on it for for reflection and it's also part of our local control and accountability plan evaluation our lcap so there's a lot of limits to this data um number one um results are reported for overall scores and claims and these are claims are very broad sets of Standards so no teacher can look at their their results and say this is exactly what I missed last year and I need to do a better job on this this standard or this standard it's it's much much broader than that uh currently we have no claim data which is a set of Standards um all crunched together and an example would be listening and speaking for English language arts so all the standards that fall under listening and speaking and there might be you know 20 are are given in a single aggregate for for listening and speaking both all three of these tests we're going to discuss tonight have those um but no claimed dat is is given to us on a student level so no teacher knows EX exactly which students scored low on listening and speaking for for example is that something that is forthcoming but just hasn't gotten there yet as the state builds out the the testing program or is it something that we shouldn't expect to come out it's something that we shouldn't expect I I hope it comes but we shouldn't expect we had that for years in um English and Lang English and math however with with the pandemic the state shortened the test and so there's not enough data in a single students's um test data to say whether or not that single student um mastered a certain claim or not um however when they look at the entire set of aggregate dat data points they do have enough data and so they release those um for groups of students in the Aggregates only now and I expect us to stay with a shortened blueprint the shortened test um from here on out and another limitation to this data is teachers don't get this data until way after the fact to be really uh actionable teachers need to get get the data almost instantaneous and be able to act on that with their kids in the moment that's the importance of formative assessment that I I mentioned earlier um Tim this this is an area that um our DLC is is involved with trying to get our um formative data as soon as possible and get it to the teachers so that those teachers that need to be able to identify which student in the class that's sitting before them has a gap and and that they can treat to it you know almost as quickly as they are instructing and then reviewing whether or not a student needs to be retaught a certain exactly okay so explain how that's working if I if the state isn't involved and we are doing it what is it exactly that we do through the approved stuff that the DLC has worked on to get that happen happening so we do a wide variety of things I'll focus on a on a couple um uh one example is is Junior High math for example Junior High Math teachers U administer the ISL assessment um and what that assessment does is it goes beyond the skills that are taught in the course what it does is it goes it um adjusts to find the the holes in the students earlier learning what does a student need to remediate essentially and then gives the teachers tools to assign um work and and review um of those remedial skills that's that's one example of of H of how that process works at the junior high do we do at this ISL thing at all grade levels we don't we have a variety of assess assessments at a variety of grade levels uml currently is only given at the secondary level and not all high school grade levels um and we have a wide variety of that's really a whole separate Workshop as local assessment um a wide variety of Assessments at elementary that are meant to specifically diagnose um what students need to learn essentially Neil DA has a program that's doing that that that's the only school I'm familiar with because that's the only one I visited and got informed on so what what Neil Dow does is where we would like to have all of our elementaries what Neil da does is done at all of our elementary schools for example it does it look different absolutely there's different you know funding that's available to different schools and things like that each School puts their different different flavor on it one of the things that we've been happy to be able to do over the past couple years is um Implement reading um interventions via our reading specialists at our at our elementary sites and now the um the cohesion that that group has is now growing to include Title One teachers that um really um are there for the same purpose they might be doing a little something different in groups but we're bringing the title one teachers in with the reading Specialists to be more cohesive um to have a more cohesive Approach at the elementary level so the life cycle of data um and this hold on sorry um can you go back to the last slide please we didn't touch on the last bullet here oh yeah um aggregated data yeah you say it I don't need to read your slide so the agre aggregated data from the state is is like one way we get a report card you know it it's a report card for the public it gives us information to reflect on within our district um and it also allows us to to go out into the state and look for similar schools and similar districts and see how we're doing compared to them um one thing that you're all very well aware of is that different student groups perform different differently throughout the state um and so the the district makeup um is going to affect how your overall scores look so we go out and we look for sites schools and districts that are similar to ours I think we could say the same within our own District right like we see data that supports that schools that are not Title One schools are significantly different and I use that word specifically for this reason statistically then um than our non-title one schools and we see the scores be different between the two we see differences in our in our district absolutely same thing I was mentioning before about looking out at outside districts you know the the population of a school is going to generally going to have an effect on on the um the test results the scores that we're seeing right and you know I think everybody's sick of hearing us talk about multi teed system of supports probably but that's a crucial what's that acronym again mtss thanks um that's crucial to closing those gaps um so on this bullet one of the questions I had initially written down was this is almost a philosophical question right not necessarily what I expect an answer for is um how do these specific scores impact our students individually sounds like they don't our schools maybe a little bit where schools are looking at what are other schools in our district doing are there differences is that they're driving our scores or are we doing the best we can with with the programs we have and then our district overall as we're comparing you know like districts um in the state with us right um how is this specific data informing Us in in the decisions that we're making I'll give I'll give you an example we saw two years ago we saw really high math achievement um um and we looked at that and we um tried to replicate that the best we could across all of the elementaries and what you'll see in a few minutes here is Elementary looked very very good um in math in particular because of that because we identified okay this this site's doing really really well let's replicate that so we really start looking at data in June um it's it's gotten harder and harder um over the last few years the state's been a little wonky with their releases of data but this year we did get preliminary uh results in June um I turn those around as fast as I can because we get a student file and send them send those out to our um administrators this year now um I would do DLC as well we gave them license es to the software that we use for that um in August we're bringing our administrators back together and and looking at the data reflecting on how we did what we need to do differently etc etc um sites are presented with the with the data um upon return to school and then the public release comes out in October now the difference between the publicly public release in October and all the data we've been looking looking at since since May is that the results that the state gives us prior to the Aggregates are student level data that we have to crunch and we have a few different systems that we use to to Crunch that data um and so it's not public so the public hasn't seen it yet um but the October is kind of you know it's one of our report cards throughout there to the to the public in December the state dashboard comes out and I gave a presentation on that in February and then we use that for looking back on this year we use it to measure growth for next year and years Beyond Tim on the subject of data life cycle our lcap development and all those meetings and things we're we're basically looking at and reacting to last year's data um but I if I peaked and looked ahead at your presentation it looks as though there is now an an ability to look at at um consistency in our data rather than big highs and lows right am I wrong about that no you're right we're relatively consistent across the board so so the fact that we are building any changes or enhan ments to our lcap is is an okay thing because we have good reliable data flow from the previous year right and for academics we're not just looking at English and math as well we're looking at you know local assessment data um grad rates CTE completion rates etc etc so the English and math um publicly released data is not there's no cohorts in here um there's different inclusion and exclusion rules for students than on the state dashboard so this will be a slightly different student set than you'll see on the state dashboard um like I said before we use it to identify similar schools and districts across the state there's no State accountability attached to this really the accountability is in our school board and our public um currently we only have English and math results and it's a much different focus on the state dashboard data that focuses primarily on how much did we grow or not um this is just here's the data there's no focus on growth the locally aggregated data um on the cast test that we we'll see again no Statewide Aggregates available and we process this data internally so first I'm going to dive into the um smarter balanced balanced English and language arts and math okay so what you see here on the left hand side is English language arts and on the right is math Chico Unified is on the left State of California is on the right for both displays what you'll see is that the Green Dot indicating 2122 data and the blue dot indicating last year's data are essentially right on top of each other and what that tells us is um minimal change from the previous year we can also see that we're above the state averages in both English and math and we essentially mirrored the trends of the state um for smarter balanced Ela um we actually went down 0.2 percentage points so 02 percentage points the state went down 4 four for math we went up 1.1 percentage points and the state went up 1.2 so we're pretty much almost exactly mirroring the state Trends here um one thing I should point out is uh on the first chart is what you see here the the AIS is p percent of students who met or uh exceeded standards okay so that's what we're looking at with this data percentage of Stu of students meeting or exceeding St standards so you can see we're right around the 55% Mark for ELA and right around the 40% Mark for math we're actually right at the 40% Mark for math Tim yeah we've talked about this before but these uh standards are um where they come from is a bit of an enigma to me um but I I think that you said there are just experts who know what the standard is and that's where this comes from could you want to talk about that a little bit sure sure um the the tests these tests are built by the smarter balance Consortium and that's that's where when you hear people say esac Smarter Balance assessment Consortium that that's a multi-state Consortium of uh some of it's an organization that is building tests around the Common Core State Standards and they serve a number of states the two biggest consortiums in in America are Park and uh and smarter balanced and those are the big consortiums states that have not adopted smarter balanced or Park uh tests have changed those tests very very minimally in general um with you know giving their the flavor from their state to those tests but generally they're they're very similar um Park and smarter balance are are the two big ones though and those are the consortiums that build these tell me what you know about the the experts who decide what is standard uh made up of psychometricians um for the most part in my world that's where they I'm I'm concerned with um psychometricians um professional test Builders essentially that's what they are the commic cor standards themselves I can't really speak to it's a bold statement to say that you know you know um 60% of of all kids in in California's public school system are um you know not able to perform basic where they're supposed to be functions in math you know and 40% or or 50% are basically kind of illiterate on some level not what they're supposed to be so I'm just really fascinated by who these people are and I'm surprised there's not more curiosity like burning curiosity out there to know more about them where these standards come from are they too arbitrary um anyway thanks I I think on an extension of that I'm sitting here wondering what about this data do you find useful what I this data right here tells me we went with the state Trend overall um that's and that could be the test could have changed we could have all adopted the same practices I mean there's so many variables this to me from my much more naive seat here than your position is data doesn't really tell us much of anything about our about our student population right this data in particular does right that's why we disaggregate it further right yeah right like it's nice to say oh we did slightly better than the rest of the state on average but I mean kind of hearkening back to that but like okay but 60% we're saying are not meeting this m right and really what this does here's a what I try to do is add context to data sure um looking at a data point out of context is essentially meaningless I mean I could come in here and say you know hopefully someday we went up 10 percentage points and without context if the state went up if the average School District in California went up 20% Then have a big problem right right yes and and and I think on that note the other piece that I'm questioning while I'm sitting here looking at this data point is where what are what's the spread from last year to this year on the students who did not meet or exceed the standards I'm sure that data is here somewhere but like did students who were at the very bottom make a bigger Improvement or you know what I mean like we're talking about the Bridging the Gap of of where they where they were last year to this year or where we performed from last year to this year like that seems like valuable data also that's hugely valuable data and you're going to see that um in the cast data that we that we show later do we not get it from the Casp we don't get it in um the Aggregates that we need from the Casp fascinating yeah it's on the state level sometimes the state me that's the big difference between this data and the um the dashboard data is just that what you're talking about and that's why we generally look unless the state tells us to look at uh percentage met or above um and it's released to the public we generally look at distance from standard because that does take into account those kids that are maybe a you know these K these kids on this test get on put on a level one through four three and four are three is met four is above one and two are below so we have a a number of kids we have a lot of work going on in our school district and a lot of training and time invested um in all of our kids so I prefer the DFS measure as well because a student at a one that gets to a high two and grew a ton they still don't show here absolutely by the same token a kid that was a low four and went to a high for or got a perfect score he shows the same he or she shows the same here so um yeah there's there's a big difference yeah and I think and just from my background I I understand those nuances I just think it's really important to kind of remind everybody that that that those nuances are there and that looking at very simple data points that the state's giving us is not telling not even a fraction of the story right right thank you MH so when we look at our our student groups some of our student groups these student groups happen to be um very similar to the dashboard student groups that we are um held accountable for on the California state dashboard um we can see most student groups in in English language arts scored better than the state average um not all um it's one thing that we're particularly proud of is our economically disadvantaged kids being um significantly higher than the state average for for that population um as well as one of our our well our second biggest um race ethnicity in Chico ified as Hispanic or Latino and we we showed much better than the state in that in this visual Chico Unified is red and the state is orange and this is last year's test only did you choose these colors I did just that's all I'm going to say you sound like ed services okay uh math was more of a mixed bag um as I showed before all all students was above the state average our economically disadvantaged students were above the state average uh um a a worry point a concern for us here really when we talk about the importance of context is our English English Learners um Foster youth homeless Youth and the reported disabilities that's our our special education uh population scored lower in the percentage of students met or above when we look by grade level um every grade level um was above the state in English language arts when we look at math um every grade level was above the state in in math as well um and I mentioned that these are this is not cohort data true cohort data um what I mean by that is these seventh graders here year that took the eighth grade test in 20223 last year um it's not the exact same group of students however it is somewhat similar of a group of students so when we see jumps like this from 7th to 8th grade um that's pretty significant and so that that is um something that um we're proud of um and again above the state average in every grade level when we look at similar districts across the state what I look for is um school districts that are unified school districts that are within plus or minus 25% of our enrollment so that's about 15,000 kidss to 9,000 kids and plus or minus 10 points 10 percentage points in the unduplicated count of their student population so the unduplicated count is your free and reduced lunch students your Foster and your English learner and so those are the U roughly economically disadvantaged socioeconomically disadvantaged students um which we see as a a huge factor in in achievement and so when we look out across the state um at at those criteria we we were in a group of of 12 unified school districts of those 12 um Chico Unified as third in from the left here we have one District outscoring us who also didn't change very much last year um Al hamur unified but out of those 12 we're we're we're second so we're we're up there um for me and I think everybody in this room we always want to be Top Dog there but um but not bad for math we see the same story um we were second after alhamra um both went up a similar similar amount in math and the reason why I chose that unduplicated count um as a factor to look for similar districts is when we look at our test scores and we look out across the state we can see that students that are not socioeconomically disad or not economically disadvantaged tend to Fair far better on the state test than those that are economically disadvantaged and this is one thing that we call the achievement Gap and really we can see a stark difference between the light green that are not economically disadvantaged and the dark green that are economically disadvantaged we see that across all raced ethnicities um with a a significant Gap and really that's what um you know initiatives like like U the Community Schools Grant um our targeted case managers our our focus on counseling those types of services are really um along with instructional practices and assessment um we're that's what we're trying to do here is get those um Bubbles as close as we can and as high as we can so we see that Gap in English language arts we see that Gap in in math any questions so far before I get into the sites okay so for elementary language arts we had seven of 12 of our elementary schools um increase their percentage of students um at met or above standard um some of the more significant increases here are uh maragold uh Shasta Neil da and I want to also um congratulate Citrus and mcmanis for making growth um they are you can see where they achieved in 2122 and all we ask is keep growing keep growing keep growing and they did um and they have some you know a high needs population at those sites and I think they did a a wonderful job last year so Junior High language arts um we saw Chico jior high with the biggest growth uh we also saw um Bidwell cre creep up a little bit I don't know if you remember but Bidwell grew a lot the previous time from their from their last esack score and it's really hard to keep those big jumps going um but um we did see some increase and of course Marsh took took a little bit of a dip there High School Ela English language arts we saw saw both sides both sites take a little bit of a dip um again still above the state average um however nobody nobody likes to see any school go down um and this is absolutely not an excuse or anything like that um but the last test that you know obviously English and math are are going to be the same the last smarter balance test they took was in seventh grade and so it was a a big um big uh uh air big time period of no testing there so not used to the system etc etc that being said neither group in DLC is is happy about this and actively trying to change it this is administered in which grade 11th yeah so I'm curious why are uh high school students in Chico more proficient I mean and in the state it looks like just high school students are fairing better than students overall on this test if you look at back at the general scores you don't have to click there but they're just lower English language arts um is hovering right around the 50% Mark right uh for English Ela and then right around the 40% Mark or less for math for everyone whereas high school you know we're up in 70% of kids are proficient right we've we've seen that um um as long as I've been in this job both in distance from standard and in percentage met or above at 11th grade um I'm unsure why the the students you know it's obviously the same system that the kids are going through um and we we see it Statewide they just tend to score higher um an example you know counter to that might be sixth grade uh math fifth and sixth grade math that we see low across the state as well just like the the high schools are generally higher in both English and math um but that's you know I account for this the other change with you know standards changes and things like that but I'm unsure about 11th grade so you would postulate that sixth grade and maybe uh is dragon dragon the across state that's a that's a hard year for you know for students in general fifth and sixth actually all right so alternative Ed um Ela um we can and I I put Oakbridge in with alternative Ed even though it's not really alternative Ed um just because it's doesn't fit into any other group and it's a nice small group so um you can see our alternative Ed campuses on the far left ACA Academy for change AFC and um Center for all Alternative Learning Cal really those are really hard comparisons to make year to year the it's a very very transient population at both of those sites are in and out of there quite a bit um very small numbers um we saw fair viiew and we saw um Oakbridge both decline are our two biggest sites on this so elementary math in my eyes is a is a huge success last year nine of 12 sites increased math achievement um and you can see you know it's hard to list off all the all the growth here you know see Citrus um hookero mcmanis again Neil da on and on Park View rosale um Sierra View Etc so big changes last year in elementary math and it showed on the in the test scores Tim you just um said that there were big changes in elementary math what exactly was our change changes I think a couple things iene one of them we got a pacing calendar so every school is kind of operating on the same timeline with uh when they're teaching what units certainly some flexibility by individual teacher in there but kind of by X point point you should be at this this this place in the curriculum and we had assessments matched up to it at that point also so we really dipped into fibbs and iebs which if you think of like many uh State practice tests that's what we used also so everybody's using that same kind of structure another big thing we did was those iabs and fibs Rex set up tutoring around that so we put things in place and I'm going to give kudos to the people sitting in the back Marisol Lopez was one who drove a lot of that in particular for us they had tutoring lessons put together specifically so if students struggled with X standard out of that FIB they had curriculum put together they had things ready to go for those kids with after school program tutoring also and during the school day like our Title One groups would use it as well with those kinds of things so really DLC was the one that kind of really crafted and pushed these changes through to make sure everybody was much more coherent cohesive we could look at things along the year and kind of know who is struggling and be able to put things in much much more timely with it with them thank you when we get to Junior High math we can see Chico Jr again Chico Jr had a great year all the way around um with excellent growth in in math um Bidwell and Marsh took a similar um saw a similar decrease high school math looks very very similar to high school English with a little uh drop for each site and finally for our Smarter Balance scores um we have Al alternative Ed and Oakbridge here and we can see Fair View um being our our our two biggest sites here Oakbridge and Fairview we saw Fair viw going up and and oage um taking a bit of a decrease good excuse me on the uh the slide you just left fair viiew and Cal on on the left percentage of students that were that met the standard and above that's not a very good presentation of how many of them were meeting standards or am I misreading what it it started with zero the previous year and went up a two I think it was 2.2% H concerning are our alt our alted schools including Oakbridge are they getting the same formative assessments as our Jed School sites I'm actually unsure of Elementary I know yeah at Oakbridge there giving the same assessments um at um alternative Ed they are giving um they big on I using iel as well there we go okay now on to our locally aggregated data from the California science test um this data is going to be a different flavor um mentioned this earlier this is this data is shown in distance from standard so the average student in the groups that we're going to show you um how close were they to meeting standard so ideally every student would be you know plus 100 above standard um if a student if a group of students average below standard um it's we obviously have some work to do so then just to give you a little overview on on how this is calculated the the Red Square there is circling the lowest scale score a student can get in the given grade levels there in and meet standard so students are given a scale score and then that scale score you know puts them into the categories that we were just looking at for smarter balance and and English language arts um but that scale score may also be used to calculate distance from standard okay this is the measure that the California state dashboard uses and this is the measure that allows us to essentially get credit for lack of a better term in our test scor we pushing a kid who's well above standard even higher and pushing a student who's well below standard higher but maybe they didn't quite meet standard that year but they're moving in the right direction and they're moving significantly so what we want to oops what we want to see on these charts is we want the bubbles to be as high as possible okay and we want the the blue dot the 2023 data to be above the Green Dot which is the 2022 data so that we're moving our kids up either closer to if it's below standard or we're moving closer to standard or if they're above the same thing we want we want those dots higher so you can see on this chart the average student was a little less than nine points below standard on the cast this year up um a little bit more than one average of one point from the previous year when we look at our district student groups um we can see our generally most of most of our student groups increased um we can see particularly um our second largest race race ethnicity group um Hispanic as shown here um with significant growth um we see growth in students with disabilities we see growth here in socio economically disadvantaged homeless Youth and there's no Foster data here because they're it's too small of a data point too small of a number of students I'm sorry when we look out across the grade levels um we can see a very significant increase um in grade 11 and really when we when we talk about it increas districtwide it was grade 11 that carried us we we went down in in fifth and eighth grade um but that 11th grade increase is encouraging um that we're moving in the right direction just just as a point of explanation the the 12th grade there um those are kids like Chico Unified give we give our cast test in 11th grade um if the kids don't take it in 11th grade they have to take it in 12th so that little blue dot at the bottom is representative of a of a normal year um you know 48 kids here didn't take it the year prior so they had to take it in in 12th grade we see the same gap between um economic statuses we can see students that were not socio economically disadvantaged growing at a far higher rate and scored much higher than those that are socioeconomically disadvantaged we saw half of our elementary sites um increase on the cast test we you can see Park View up here and we can see Sierra View over on the far right as the two highest um but we did see good growth at mcmanis at Emma Wilson um I think that's Shasta there and Shasta as well two of our three Junior highs um increased one fairly significantly Marsh um went down pretty significantly both comp hensive high schools increased um PV at increased um at a very high rate I would say I would say both you know our 11th grade scores are are trending in the right direction we can see Fair View showing a very slight increase here um while the other Al alted schools and Oakbridge went down any questions clarifications okay I mean you're not done uh I have a couple questions J down just from when you were presenting um when do we is there a typical time um in high school that the science uh classes are taken is it generally 9th and 10th grade that science has taken um and then they don't take the cast until 11th grade I'm sorry I don't know off the top of my head yeah oh it just got quiet I'm Sarah pus one of the assistant principles at Chico High kind of to answer your question about the science progression um most students take three years of science it's not a requirement um but two years is the is the requirement however for College Prep students um most universities require three years and they encourage a fourth year um so students in the freshman year traditionally take a biology class in the sophomore year now with the new ngss traditionally take um chemistry or physics and then in the junior year we'll take physics or chemist we'll flop we'll flop that depending on um their interest and then or they would take an AP Physics or an AP Chemistry or something along those lines so to answer your question I think you're asking are they taking all of their science and then being tested in their junior year when they're not in a science class that does happen with a percentage of our students if if they are two years and done um I would you're asking me to pull a specific data point out of my head that I don't have but I think we have more than 50% of our Juniors taking a science class um and the cast is a it's a it's a much oh what's integrated that's the word I'm looking for is a much more integrated test so it does take all of those Concepts over time and and embed them there test test biology chemistry physics and environmental EnV Earth environmental Sciences correct so at the minimum students need to take biology yes which integrates a little bit of the earth and environmental stuff and then either chemistry or physics also integrates a little bit of the relevant Earth environmental science correct but then conceptu could not take a third year but still have to test at the end of the third year yes and have missed a quarter of the content right well a quarter or more a quarter to a third of the cont of the expectations of the test yeah okay correct thank you does that answer everything yes I just wanted to clarify that for the audience okay all right thank you um I also let's see my notes are all over the place I'm sorry that's a later question um I was wondering since we have our DLC folks here we don't really hear very often from our DLC folks and I was wondering if we could put them on the spot in a very lowrisk environment and just see if yall can introduce yourself and what you what what your DLC topic is is that too much to ask on we have until 6:45 for This Workshop technically although all of us would like to go home I'm sure sooner but um just you know I'd love I'd love for your faces to be brought to the Forefront on you know who's helping Drive these leadership conversations at the cont content area level thank you yes my name is Melanie perin I'm a sixth grade math teacher at Chico Jr and I represent um all of the junior high math departments hi my name is Camille Upton I am a high school math teacher and DLC member from Chico High I'm Monica Egbert I teach at Pleasant Valley high school and I represent the um DLC math from our high school hi I'm Hollis and Saro and I teach seventh and eth grade English at Bidwell and I am one of the two uh English DLC Reps for the junior high English teachers hello my name is Lloyd hiow I teach at Pleasant Valley High School special education and I represent all secondary teachers special teachers at DLC hi I'm Jess crane I teach it NE da I'm our Title One coordinator mtss Le DLC representative I also help with kindergarten Prep Academy and summer school reading intervention hello my name is Marisa LZ I am the DLC rep at for rosale I am also the assistant principal and the title one coordinator there and at DLC we do many many things um I actually have a list of things that we go over um um we um are currently we meet every two weeks and um we talk about our assessments we talk about the data we as reps go back to our sites and ask um our teachers um feedback and then we come back as the Reps for our site and Report um we discuss the data what we could do to um better improve the students um success and there's many topics that we go over right now one of the main focuses is um Stacy Bane she we have been getting PDS where um we're getting trained on the science of reading Rosell just recently had Helicon who he's trained our teachers on the science of reading in Spanish um we have a PD coming up in December for third fourth and fifth grade teachers um and then together we just discuss what we could do to better support all of our students Rhonda odam the principal of Oakbridge I'm the elementary and secondary DLC rep and Sarah also Sarah pus also comes to DLC as well you already met her as well as a wide variety of um secondary assistant principles and I and Elementary um assistant principles for the most part um it's a group um of true leaders um on their sites and you know in the case of our secondary DLC across sites um Hollis um and melany in particular at the um Junior High sites have do a wonderful job working with the sites that they don't they don't work at you know so they're really bringing um the junior highs together um and it's a it's a very uh honest group um nobody's there to tell us what we they think we want to hear they're there to tell us the the real deal I got called out a couple hours ago by Camille for something and which I'm sorry again Camille um and it's a wonderful group and they go way above and beyond their point two that they're given for for participation in DLC I know not all DLC members are here tonight but as I was kind of tallying up we had um we have one math DLC member from each High School right correct and then one math Junior High DLC representative in total okay and then I I jotted down that there are two junior high level English DLC members correct how many high school math is there one or sorry English from is there one English from each High School correct and then we have um but we're missing one Junior High if we were going to have representative from each right okay okay I'm sorry I'm still I'm like not seeing the we also have alternative Ed representation and then at the elementary school level is it at least one person from each site right are and there content area Specialists for elementary also no they're they're they're the represent present their entire staff yeah and then is in there right and we have special education um at the secondary level Lloyd high tower introduced himself yes I really that um and really like you know they're subject area folks um focusing on in the world of assessment their subject area assessments but really they're the Reps for their entire site and so why aren't there more DLC math reps at the junior high level uh comes down to money yeah we give each just like the elementary gets one point uh point2 each uh junior high gets a point2 DLC member from each School site um for the two English to just what they have at the marsh and um Bidwell that those the two teachers when we ask them to have an English or a math um those two schools have English and then we always make sure that we have one math and that is Melanie she's the queen of math for okay I see I see now there's one DLC rep from each Junior High School M either English or math and then how does science fit in all this science currently does not there's no DLC for science right now true okay got it thank you any further questions yes next tricky question all right um so I think that my like the big idea question that I don't expect to have an answer this is another philosophical question is um knowing that Forma of assessments while important also take away some classroom time some teaching time and I know that there's a variety of perspectives on that and individual teachers have certain feelings one way or another um have are we working towards or have we struck that balance of having meaningful formative assessments clearly our state testing assessment data is is not really a driving factor in what programs we have and what is happening at the classroom level but simultaneously mitigating that loss of of instructional time you know having inform your instructional time I just I we talked about this last year and I don't know that we ever there was like really any I don't know follow up but there are still are those complaints coming from classroom teachers about too much assessment time in the classroom being spent onl for example or any of the other various programs that are being used right there's always going to be a push and pull with that um there's there's a need for standardized common assessments across the district for a variety of reasons um collaboration um progress monitoring um assigning students in need to interventions uh tier two interventions that would be um and there's a need and I think DLC does a does a good job of the best possible job because having been in this business for a lot of years like there's there's always going to be a push and pull on that on that question that you asked um what I will kind of any DLC member can come up here but I think what they're what they're striving for is is meaning meaningful assessments um and I'll use ISL for an example if students are given this assessment that teacher gets a lot of help with remediation that may save class time on on remediation um those kinds of things are taken into account when um assessments are selected the elementary version of what Tim's talking about there's a Perpetual revision of Assessments every year it's always kind of an ongoing topic for us so the Reps like you heard Marisol talk they go back and forth um some changes this year is an example like we used to give a bass reading assessment that has become optional just based on the feedback back and forth in one-on-one nature and time El with those kinds of things teachers felt they got enough other information to kind of Drive instruction without that one so DLC and I kind of laugh because we talk about things like that for six months in there before we pull a trigger of going yes or no with it so at the end of the year they were like we don't need the bass we feel like we got enough other other assessment information but if your site wants to do it or you want to do it you're welcome to also so individual sites do some things a little bit different um we're also already talking about the fibbs and IBS for math we're talking about what we want to do for next year with them there's some feedback that we have the wrong order and those kind of things so it's just it's a Perpetual ongoing every year discussion and and modification for elementary and occasionally they actually want to put more on there and I have to say Ted Sullivan is not going to Advocate to put more Assessments in there right now all right so I I guess I'm I'm still trying the next question philosophically that I'm working towards is how much our formative assessments are matching up with what we're seeing on those State assess those state test the summit of Assessments I mean is it a pretty are they tend to be a pretty good predictive tool to see how that plays out or are you know are our yeah I don't know I guess that's basically the question I I would say that when you like when you buy an assessment program every vendor is going to tell you that our tests can tell you exactly how your kids are going to do on a state test I I tend to not believe that um we've hadl now for example for a year um I think it's too early in an implementation um just because teacher comfort with the uh with the platform in in the first year is it's a hurdle you know it's It's Growing Pains um but we will continue to monitor that um I know um you know going back to the ele elementary math piece and and that site that we used as a model um was watching their I ready math scores and it was a great indicator of what um of how their students were going to do on the state test and we really saw that play out they knew typically when you when you talk to a site that grew a lot they know they were going to grow a lot before they go into testing they know is it this is this is going to sound not great but is it kind of safe to say in a weird sense that the state testing scores that's on the dashboard it's really what the public is talking about that's our public P perception but it to me personally as a classroom teacher with my classroom teacher had on granted I've been removed from the classroom for a few years now because y'all voted me here um is it safe to say that uh those that's it's almost unfair the public perception is based on State Testing and really that's not a good I don't it doesn't seem to be a very good indicator especially now when you can't disaggregate the data properly and see growth specifically you know um on that same level as like you you can kind of break down more in the cast scores yet the public is judging our schools based on that data and and and then the you know our formative assessments I think tell a more specific story right but that's not really necessarily public data right I you know my my your opinion safe my good I I think as you know the the California public should have a a a report on how their schools are serving their kids in a standardized way and so do you think that this is a a fair snapshot of how our schools are serving our kids I think yes but I also think the California state dashboard um academic measures are a much more fair representation of growth in any school or District great thank you for I'm sorry I've capitalized on every I just had a question regarding the smarter balance real quick how often um does Smarter Balance create a new test is it yearly or I mean I'm just wondering if that's a factor that they'll rotate items through um yearly it's not a whole new test every year but they will rotate items in and out um and so it changes changes a little bit from year to year that's part of the reason why it's important to watch the state Trends um to see you know is everybody happening to everybody or not you know see if you're an anomaly or you're right with the trend and I wanted to add to that question you asked earlier so um we currently Elementary has been using the F ABS and the I aabs and as an ass assessment to um track to see if the kids are mastering the standards or not and once we get that data we we analyze that data we check to see which students are below standard approaching standard and um at standard and all the sites have been doing tutoring so after after school students are asked to stay for 30 minutes where there's curriculum that is built on these that that was built based on these interims and so we're able to ensure that the students are meeting the standards um and the data from these formative assessments do tell us a lot of information and that way we're able to meet the needs of those students we've also started creating frontloading materials based on the standards that they're supposed to be learning where the teachers are able to teach the kids the standards before practice them they take this assessment that makes this far below group a bit smaller now we're only meeting the needs of the kids that really really are still struggling with that standard after doing the front loading materials and being taught the standards using I ready so we do track this data um each site has a coordinator and um there's tutoring happening after school I actually was just creating a to-do list I've been sending emails to um the admin and teachers at rosale to remind them that the nrm is coming up here's some front loading material that you could use and um I've seen that it helps it helps a lot with the front loading and um now that ensures that we only meet the we meet with the kids that really truly are having a hard time comprehending the standard and mastering it any further questions okay I wanted to thank board members Lando and Robinson for meeting with me as the board Liaisons uh for this uh presentation um the cast results that I presented are presented my in my opinion uh much less friendly form um on the website linked in the in the agenda here or on the last uh page of the slides here um they're they're available um again more updates in in December when the California state dashboard comes out thank you thank you thank you all right excuse me um so this was an um informational item um I don't think we have any additional public comment for um the workshop topic this evening um and so uh seeing no additional questions from the board we can move on to item five um start discussion action calendar uh under ed services uh we have a discussion action item on homework uh this is titled the implications of a no homework policy um presented by Mr marot yeah I'm going bringing up um Pedro and Ted you guys need to Clicker so good evening this uh is a topic that's kind of been floating around there forever everybody's favorite topic is homework um so with that being said it's really hard to actually Define homework it sounds kind of funny but if you ask 10 different people what is homework you'll get 10 different answers from very likely is it work left over from class is it work that's assigned to kind of check at home with those kind of things things is it an extension of the school days there's a lot of different definitions which makes it a little bit difficult to talk real specifically about some of those things but with that being said this is currently what we have as far as our policy with homework um Pedro can talk for secondary but in elementary generally it's supposed to be something that's kind of an extension of what they've been working on in class and our general rule of thumb is it's about 10 minutes per grade level maximum for homework for a night so if it's a third grader they should be maxing out at about 30 minutes of homework at night it's kind of a reasonable chunk able to do those kinds of things etc etc so one of the things we look at is we survey parents every year we kind of ask them what they think about homework for their children so about 70 plus% of our parents think that they're getting a reasonable Fair appropriate amount of homework we ask them this is kind of every year one of the questions we ask as far as feedback from them do you have that divided Out Among levels like elementary middle school and high school this is just kind of the General survey question we send out so it's different could been could have been useful information so some of the considerations if we were to take a deeper dive with this actually are actually like I said what is the definition of homework you will you I said you ask 10 people you're going to get 10 different answers as far as what is homework specifically with those things um if we if you're looking to take further action on this you would definitely want to be involving much more feedback from parents and Guardians about what they think about homework and what's appropriate what's not with those kinds of things we want to be surveying teachers because there's huge differences between an elementary third grade teacher versus an AP English teacher at a high school level as far as what would be reasonable appropriate for homework as well uh consider higher hyrid level course requirements such as advanced placement etc etc they're going to have different loads of homework needless to say with the expectations goes goes with those courses um academic achievement implications does it really affect how kids do on the State Testing having homework or not having it we talk about um 504 IEP accommodations how would that reflect with homework expectations changing it and analyzing legal contractual obligations I'm not sure how that weaves into some of the grading policies and some of those kinds of things also so that would be a lot of time kind of going through it that that that's the that's just a much deeper dive to look at into those levels the elementary school kind of got feedback from principes via their teachers with it as far as kind of some of the things that they think are advantages of having a no homework policy uh some of one of the first one is really students um the amount of significant amounts of support they need to get homework done every kid's really different with what's needed so there's huge variations as far as what's happening at home for those ones one of families appreciate less stress and more family time I know LCC has kind of moved towards a I'm going to call it a very minimal homework policy I think that was one of the factors and I know Mrs shrock is here someplace too I don't know if she wants to talk about it more but you can ask her questions but LCC is one that has moved towards it I'm going to call it not a no homework but a minimal homework kind of process if their school um AB ility levels are different might take one student just the different amounts of time involved for doing a one homework assignment it really varies um sometimes I get calls parents frustrated that it's a students doing three hours of homework a night and we say that's way too much that shouldn't be happening with those kinds of things um inequities of how teachers grade homework definitely see those kinds of things also as far as expectations from different teachers with it some of the elementary school disadvantages like why we think it's important to have homework policies in place it allows practice of additional topics covered in class which is an extension of what they're doing in class they get additional practice with it there's the benefit to requiring certain amount of homework and seeing the amount of students move up a grade level as It prepares students so if they don't ever do homework it's harder and harder to kind of catch up with just that pattern of of getting work done and accomplished with those kinds of things a lot of um classes in teachers use planners also it kind of it helps as an organizational tool for them as they get ready to move up in the levels with those things parents also get a little bit of information about what's going on in their classroom what kids are focusing on and kind of checking on their children to see how they're doing with the comprehension with it as well so I'll let Pedro talk a little bit more about secondary implications of it from there thank you uh the advantages of a no homework policy and I should uh start off with we uh surveyed our DLC reps and uh they provided tons of information and I also want say a lot of the information that they did provide it did not all go in there because there was a lot of it there so just want to make sure we do have our DLC reps here tonight so if there are further questions later on make please make sure that uh they're here to answer some of those questions okay uh students would not need to take home anything okay and please consider the homework definition there when we read that statement right because every single teacher had a different way of looking at it when we say no homework policy uh students have more free time to spend with family friends and extracurricular activities kind of same thing you saw with Elementary grade based more on student knowledge slash assessments next one less opportunities for cheating that's something that oh all right students feel more pressured to know content material for teachers it means less grading and the next one may be more Equitable some of the disadvantages for middle schools of a no homework policy hold oned yeah sorry yeah I'm I'm gonna jump in with the equity statement um in in some of the the research that I've read and in talking with what um LCC is is doing and and some of their stuff if a student doesn't have the support for homework and stuff after school and another student has you know Wonderful support and does the 20 minutes of reading and does the discussion doesn't that lend itself to increasing those gaps that we're trying to deal with in that scenario that you are giving the answer is yes um I could also give another scenario where um for example you have students that need remediation to fill in certain gaps and those gaps could be filled for example uh using ISL then not giving them those opportunity means that maybe it's unequitable there so it just depends on how we Define it and how we use it do we have an opportunity for all of our students to have that after school half hour 45 minutes um in order to get assistance with homework and you know what's being directed by the teacher as far as this is what you need to work on kind of thing or are is that not available for all of our kids not the way that you have uh specifically defined it across the board um we do have teachers across the board that I'm sure our if our students ask hey can you please help me I'm pretty sure a good 90 plus perc of our teachers going to stay after school middle school you have the after school program but that only serves approximately 120 to 150 students and that's 6th through eth and it's broken up so if you have like 58th graders 57th graders and 56th graders so um and then at the high school there is no such program just the the elementary answer I excuse me the elementary answer is um all of our schools have a blast or all will have a blast program next year with it so part of that component is is a homework or schoolwork component for but as Pedro said we can't serve every there's not space in it so it caps at about 88 is I think something in that range so out of the school we've got 85 90 spaces in there for students not not only can not all the students attend blast but not all students can attend blast because they have other family obligations that they have to attend to which usually is our kids who are tend tend towards economic disadvantage because they have parents who are working multiple jobs and things like that so we're we're it's it's that your previous slide that that we were reference she was referencing where it says may not be Equitable is is not a may we know that it's not Equitable I do want to mention though at the high schools now that we have the blog schedule they have academic success classes so students that are identified that need more assistance can be taken in academic success class or um so that is we're hoping um um over time as we get um I would say more the ability to understand what we can do in those classrooms to give the kids the support need that will continue to improve I know that they made a huge leap from the first year that we have had block scheduling to now to get that support needed for those students so when we say we don't have something after school you are correct um but we do have built-in things in at the school day okay is another way to put this Equity question that basically to your saying and this is directed to both you I guess um Madam president and um Mr Robinson homework helps students that have a good home structure for doing homework uh therefore it's inequitable because some students don't have that and so you might consider removing homework because it helps these students who have a good homework structure at home is that another way to characterize it I think that the difference would be that expecting learning to take place at home through homework is a differentiation here additional practice could be beneficial for anybody who have who has the time to do it so if if a teacher is saying you can practice these additional math problems at home but if you have just been in class you should still be able to be successful but there are also instances where students may be assigned homework that is an extension of learning that they're not they don't have the opportunity to learn that in class but they're still being held accountable for that learning to be taken taking place at home so that goes back to the definition of what what is homework that we're saying is being assigned yeah and I I would say you know Elementary has really pushed hard for kind of what you shared as option one this is something they've been working on in class it's an extension a time for Teacher to check and see if they understand stood it outside the class also additional new learning is something that we really say shouldn't be happening and being expected to be done at home just for that reason and thank you for that clarification because that's how difficult it is to be able to Define homework amongst our Educators Middle School uh disadvantages of a no homework policy for certain classes students may need more time to complete a writing assignment because they are thinking revising editing Etc or need to read independently students also miss an opportunity to practice they miss time uh to spend outside the class period to think about material uh homework is another opportunity for Teacher feedback on student work and then students work onel and fill in their learning gaps could you clarify that last one for me so are we saying that uhel is could be used as homework that is correct just make sure than Middle School disadvantages of a no homework policy and once again this comes from our directly from our teachers we already use a lot of class time for grade level English classes to read novels in another required reading but sometimes students need to read on their own a novel unit may take eight weeks instead of four uh next one studying for tests may also benefit from additional time outside of class honor students are expected to read at their own pace on their own and this could eliminate their independence I don't think a one-size fits-all policy would work for all subjects I could also see a lot of backlash where students would tell teachers they weren't allowed to have them do anything outside of their classroom and then uh possibly a no homework on weekends policy for Middle School would work ready to move on to the next slide okay High School advantages of a no homework policy no homework means less stress and anxiety I believe it should be called a no graded homework policy less grading for teachers equals better lessons for students upgraded sorry ungraded check for understanding assignments are still an option to gauge student understanding of Standards based assignments I ask my students what the pros to a no homework policy would look like more sleep job experience more time for training and athletic events more time for research projects that's kind of an interesting one right because it's a isn't research projects kind of like a homework and community service more time for extracurricular and cultural activities more time for family and friends disadvantages for high school grades would be based on exams only students would not learn time management skills this policy would not prepare college-bound students for the rigor of college studies students learn to use outside resources ask for help and check for understanding by doing work outside of a class students miss an opportunity to practice they miss time to spend outside the class period to think about the material teachers are not able to get feedback and students don't get to receive feedback and last there students would never be able to read the 8 to 10 novels we read per year they would not be able to write the 8 to 10 essays we have them produced per year class time would have to be dedicated to these activities and that would eat up already sparse instructional time especially with the block schedule time for discussion and questions um you go ahead in Reading um you know some things over time because this has been an an interest for me because well it's been of an an interest and now we're getting to the point where there's research from other districts and other states that have um gone to these no homework policies and taking a look at what's the impact on the level of understanding and learning and stuff you know it long-term what is it doing with the kids and the advantages seem to be on the plus side and so um you know if you have sources that are reliable and and again I don't trust other people's um interpretation of whether or not something's working or isn't so if if stuff comes through the system that you think is credible that we should um you know take a look continue to throw that in our laps please I think one thing Pedro did as we were looking into this a little bit was looked Statewide for a policy about this and it didn't exist like no other district has something like that in place currently I do want to say that homework policy no other District No I do want to say there are schools with no a no homework policy and there's a also a lot of definition out there sorry I should rephrase that there are there are schools out there that defined what a limited homework policy was there is that but a no homework policy there was nothing and there was nothing that was districtwide and we have been able to find like well ped data like the we have a an AR reg regulation on types of things of of homework again what they talked about what I believe this one District was not allowing homework to be provided on a Friday so the families could have the weekends for their families so you couldn't do those types of things there's different rules I mean in different School sites up and down the state have different things that they do for for homework or not homework but um I I believe that the the actual board policy we have not been able to find any wi with board permission if Mrs shck wants to come up and give kind of a minute overview of kind of LCC and what they went through and how they've landed and what they're actually doing just more information for you guys hi good evening um so I did get a chance to meet with myth Robinson I think it was last spring correct and so little Chico Creek's uh minimal homework policy kind of came from our uh instructional leadership team Gathering and we really saw a change in our demographic right as I got to that school about 10 years ago and so it's been about seven years that we decided to um Institute a minimal homework policy as um Mr Sullivan said and so we just have this policy on all of our staff meeting agendas and it reads like this in recognition that demands on students and staff and families have increased during after school hours LCC has adopted the following homework guidelines homework at LCC will primarily focus on reading and spelling skills and math practice activities So reading activities can include reading independently reading to someone reading with someone listening to an adult read or online reading activities and then math activities can include practicing basic math facts practice may be accomplished with flashcards dice or card games um or online math activities so occasionally students may need to complete unfinished classwork or be assigned um unfinished projects at home it's our intent to provide homework that is Meaningful for students academics as well as honor the after school time with families we don't hold students accountable um for turning in any of those practice assignments after the next morning we don't hold a minute recess in case they didn't get it done um that was all kind of let go uh once we talked with our instructional leadership team our teachers and our families do you have any questions how long ago how long ago did that start I want to say about seven years ago um what if any significant changes Did You observe in the students or or family interactions or the culture of the school the culture of the I think the culture of the school improved just because we didn't have what we had called working recess where oops you didn't do your math homework last night you didn't get checked off so you're going to go to this classroom for half of your recess time to finish up um the same kids were in working ress all the time um and it didn't help them get any help so we did Institute a homework tutoring group we now have blast it has a very strong homework component and that has been helpful too and U you know there are a couple of teachers especially in the upper grades that really wanted to hold on to that um homework piece and how do we hold them accountable for it and it's it's something that we deal with all the time we haven't come up with a great answer about that but being an avid school we really do want our students to become organized so we really focus on those daily planners and reading and getting the parents involved in signing the daily planners but we don't hold them accountable for any kind of turned in homework the other thing that I did find when I first got to little Chico Creek is that the math homework that they were assigning it wasn't getting reviewed or graded and so if a student had done it incorrectly that didn't get caught and then they had ingrained that in them and so they didn't want to take the time the next day to grade or go over the homework I didn't want them assigning it so that's kind of how this started thank you you know with 12 elementary schools I would say each one has a slightly different culture as far as expectation from families etc etc with it also Mr shro kind of work with the group there work with families to kind of put something like that in place and I would say if you look at some of our other schools it would it would not go over as well um and once again each school's got a little different culture as far as expectation Parent Connection and all those kinds of things too how many uh I mean I know we go by instructional minutes but about how many hours uh are students doing schoolwork when they're at school at the elementary level like there's 300 instructional minutes for fourth and fifth grade can you do the math for me so how much time of that are they actually engage in doing class how many hours are they doing school work during school uh five hours I would say oh I'm sorry 300 minutes is like five so more than part-time like a part-time equivalent of an adult yep okay and then so and you had mentioned at the beginning like a rule of thumb that you you prefer to see is 10 minutes per grade level so a fifth grader would be getting about have could have about 50 minutes on average of of school work but that's average right so not all students are going to complete that work in 50 minutes some will do it in 10 and some will do it in two hours so then if that student is a two hours student they've just now had seven hours of work almost a full full-time job equivalent and that is going to be eating in on family time and all the positive things that that we were talking about here it's it's just it's a really interesting topic to think about holistically like that yeah and I would say it's not like Ted Sullivan El Tre director preference that's just kind of what has been in place and kind of the the standard expectations about that semi status quo you can call it that's fine um and then if we were to continue that to the Middle School level sixth graders 60 Minutes sth graders 70 minutes e8th graders 80 minutes nth graders an hour and a half at at the ninth grade level and now they're doing six hours at school um so we're really getting up there and and I mean I know from teaching middle school science that my my students were experiencing you know anywhere from three 30 minutes to an hour per topic you know per core topic of of homework every night that's an insane amount of homework I mean there are teachers who are parents in our district right now who are begging for Less homework for their kids because there's no meaningful quality time with their kids during the week and then and then the fights ensue and you know then the home life is degraded and it's just it's a it's a it's a Cascade effect that we do have the ability to think about how we might bring some solutions to the table I guess you know obviously not a blanket one size fits all but I think that there's room here to to contemplate that especially with our DLC folks being so in tune to the school sites and and staff and the student populations and the culture and all those things homework is a topic for this Friday Elementary DLC how exciting I have a question um on the slide uh Middle School advantages of a no homework policy um specifically the point students feel more pressure to no content material I'm kind of unclear um as to what this this means Middle School advantages of a no homework policy so if there's no homework in place one of the awesome things about it is they feel more pressure to know more content material I so let let me give you an example and I'm GNA try to answer like the teacher that possibly did this so if I'm an educator I may assign homework and I may only give them maybe a two or two to five minutes my whole intent would be to make sure that something goes into long-term memory for this student right so therefore I want this to just I want a long-term memory I want this student to remember this concept or this standard uh five months from now right so what I would do as an educator I say okay you know what I just want you to learn this maybe do a exit ticket or an entry ticket and you're going to turn this into me let's make it an entry ticket because it's more of a a a homework right so they come come in they write down the concept and that's it maybe it takes anywhere from 2 to 5 minutes but I do this routinely let's say uh I don't know once a week for over a course of three months right and my belief is that over a course of three months because of repetition and speaking about it in class that it has now been ingrained in long-term memory without using the purpose and therefore we have to define the purpose of what homework is but under that scenario that could possibly lead to me as an educator not making sure that the student learned that concept and ingrad it in long-term memory that would be an example I hope that answered your question so the advantages that the teacher feels more pressure to use the class time more effectively because there's no homework I I'm not drawing the well no the the problem is that within say that it's going to be something that you're not going to cover like every every day you might not be able to cover that because as an educator you have this whole curriculum and there's a pacing guide so your subject within or or the themes or units within that subject area changes weekly monthly and you're not going back over it you don't have time to go back over it on a big large scale so you want to make sure that the students keep that in their mind and that it's fresh and you do it sometimes using homework does that answer your question maybe I just don't agree with that concept I guess so this was listed under advantages not disadvantages and I was wondering if maybe it's kind of a restating I read it as a restating of grades being based more on student assessment like if students know there's no homework to to plump up their grade their only chance to to do well in class is to actually know the material and be able to show that in class and again I don't know who teacher no you could look at it that way as well hard and and you're specific in that point of view you're kind of looking at it like grade wise right like let's say that homework is 10% of a grade in this case 10% of that homework now is gone now you're basing it more on the assessment if that's another way to look at it you know I was yes yeah I always um I went to school here Chico Unified um and I always strongly felt like the teacher in the homework they assigned was intended to prepare me for the test I never had any other impression of it you know whether they were grading 5% on homework 10% on homework 40% on homework I have no idea and never had any idea it just really seemed like if you want to be ready for the test you better do your homework because otherwise you're not going to internalize the ex exercises um so um um yeah I don't see the logic of laying down a blanket no homework policy for Chico Unified I mean seems just like a you're taking that tool out of it seems like if a teacher's goal is to educate children this is one way that on some level this is a way to prepare them for the challenges that are going to face them in the class as they go to try to take a test so I guess I agree with Miss Conan it's an advantage that a student uh feels more pressure to know the content material I guess if we could sort of dramatize this you've got a student who's like wow I got this big test coming up and uh I know I really want to do a really good job so I guess I better pay really really really close attention in class and then I'm going to maybe talk to the teacher and go over what's going to be on this test and they're going to tell me in class and then I'm going to go home on my own valtion and if I really want to do well on the test I'm going to you know take a lot of initiative and make myself flashcards and and I'm going to you know imagine what it'll be like to get these questions you know that just doesn't sound like something that most Junior High kids middle schoolers are going to going to do but when you give them a homework assignment or a worksheet when you say do this you know then they're like at home and they're like you know this doesn't make any sense to me you know and some kids can say Mom can you help me understand this or maybe the parents is doing it with them every day and I understand there's some kids that don't have that person to call on to help them through that worksheet clearly that's an issue that we need to do our level best to address I don't deny that for one second yes that's inequitable no doubt about it um but you know our goal here is to enrich and educate kids and clearly this is a proven way to do it you know I did receive communication from people who I respect who say that they think we've got more uh homework in some situations than than ought to be there and like a lot of these points that are on here absolutely it uh takes time away from things and and the cascading Hey listen I wasn't actually that great of a student uh I know you're going to be blown away by that Madam president but uh it's really true uh you know I really struggle in in school a lot of times and yeah I mean you get to a point where if you're not an ace at this stuff you're just spending your entire life staring at these worksheets and trying to wrap your head around this stuff it's tough no doubt about it you know but um hey it's becoming really smart or awesome in a subject area or multiple subject areas is can it takes a toll on you you know and if we and look at the concept of college prep right I mean no good College self-respecting college is going to not give homework to students all on the contrary at UC Davis in calculus we were not held to our math homework we were given math practice wasn't graded we didn't have to turn it in but back to your point if I wanted to to be more successful than I actually ended up being on my math tests I would have practiced more but I did just to get enough to pass well um people who go to UC Davis sorry just people who go to UC Davis are boring wonks and so that's one reason why they're that way but no I mean even in that scenario it's like UC Davis I I know because my sister went there there those are some of the smart kids wind up going there uh and it's like uh hey here's a packet of you know exercises associated with this course work right your typical UC Davis student and I've known many they're going to take that and they're going to they're going to look that over right they're gonna they're going to look that over and that's going to give them a signal as to whether they're ready for the test and and all that kind of stuff right um you know so as a Prelude to that we are giving kids or empowering teachers to give kids a homework assignment maybe they're going to grade it based on 10% or 20% or something like that so that's different from that but the goal is the same and that is to you know through process of repetition and rigor to kind of prepare these students for taking these tests and knowing the material and then College Prep thank you yeah so to not dis disagree with you I think in a way having that suggested practice is really helpful because students it teaches students to be in tune with where they're at in their Mastery right if I was more responsible of a freshman calculus student I would have recognized or I did recognize but I just didn't have the energy for it uh that I needed more practice and I would have taken the initiative to do more practice and if we are if we implementing that in our in our high school levels or even our Middle School levels but the caveat being that that's not necessarily graded which is a hard thing to teach for students like kids most of those kids you know it's not great and I'm not doing it but then to teach that lesson and say look look if you would have done these five practice questions and realized that you couldn't do three of them then we could have had a conversation about it and that teaches that that teaches I didn't have that skill going to college so I mean not and this is very personal to me and like obviously everybody's origin story is different but that's just one example of of that type of of experience so do we want to create an inequity in grading for students by making them have 25% of their grade is homework when they don't even have the opportunity to do homework quite literally but you haven't solved the inequity if you turn the graded homework um into a sort of like a a little pack of of advice or or exercises that they can't do the homework and they still can do they still are doing well on the on the assessments or on the or on the classwork they don't need to do the homework if you're making kids do homework that need that don't necessarily need to do the homework and they're not doing it and that's bringing their grade down I don't know there's just there's a Nuance there but I thought you were holding up the whatever they had at UC Davis the ungraded it was like an ungraded sort of like non I wouldn't say I was holding it up I was just giving it as example so didn't you say that that's something we could do instead what I'm saying is that that would be an that could be an option to you give for for teachers of particular topics and it's not nothing's going to be a blanket policy anything that's going to be like one this is the one siiz foit all there's no such thing as that but to say this is this is practice you know and to say hey I see you're struggling with this while we're working on this in class together and I've taught you the skills you need maybe practice these five and let me know if you need extra help on them tomorrow before we move on that and and that's not graded so you're not holding them to to that standard and if they can't get to it at home you bring them back around around and then you say hey let's do this during lunchtime or you know you let's maybe you should go to the after school you know homework help or I don't know and if we don't have those things then that's a whole another conversation to have but you could do those things without um with with homework also you could bring the the student in during during lunch to talk about it the equity problem is not affected by that scenario because because the student who has the you know um the home environment that's conducive to preparing the student for class is going to go through the exercises and the teacher's going to talk about it at at back to school night and stuff like that and so so that sort of on the- ball home structure or that that parent who has more availabil time to help their child is going to do that work but a child who does not have that structure at home is not going to do that that non-graded exercise so I don't see that that solves the equity problem okay make a point of procedure in that we have pretty much moved into debate there is another slide that talks about next steps and I would like to uh get through that this is the time for clarifying questions before we really dive into argue about what we're going to do about it I think um just to break the awkward silence for a moment um the point of this debate that doesn't need to go on any further because obvious for obvious reasons is that uh we are not the the people to have these conversations it's going to be our site representatives and our DLC team and it's going to be a very long deep conversation that's going to be taking place ongoingly until you know potentially we come to some sort of best solution um it's nothing's going to be perfect for every situation but it's obviously a conversation to to be had and and to bring back up again um I think and I feel like with the nods in in the room um that's probably the way most of us are feeling um okay so considerations I'm looking at my slides I thought next I don't see that slide on my on my slides but okay if I was just going to make a the third one yeah it's the fr just just go back to the front gotcha thank you oh I see all right you guys want to um we started off with this yeah so yeah again if I was going to make a suggestion I would probably again as I talked I bombarded the DLC secondary group today they're like what are you doing in here today but anyway I was talking to him about this is what's going to be talking what we're going to be talking about and everything that we kind of talked about in DLC came true um up here on the board it's a it's a deep conversation about Equity versus um what we need to do for our kids to be learning in their classrooms and everything that you guys are talking about is exactly um the conversations that dlc's been having um it's interesting that we would like to one go back and have more deeper conversations with our departments our grade levels our dlc's and see not maybe come up with not a no homework policy but maybe adjust our homework policy if we wanted to make changes if we brought you some um other districts that they use or some of the things that maybe are recommendations that would come from DLCs to to one um talk about the equity issues and and the family issues that we're talking about but also defining what that homework is and what is not um so we would like to have more time um again like you're talking um about if we were going to make policy changes what what they might recommend or if they're going to recommend any at all coming from our departments and our grade levels if I'm if I'm being articulate at all on this you know as Mr marant shared they're really the experts that are kind of seeing the benefits or the issues related to it so I think that would be echoing j a great starting point to have them have those discussions you said the topic at uh this week's de DLC where was the homework policy topic going to be discussed yeah for elementary DLC this Friday it's one of the four or five things are on our agenda okay yeah this is an ongoing it it is but that's okay one of the things that is our responsibility is to stay attuned to progress in what our uh responsibility is which is the education of all of our students you know back back to that Mantra again because what what works for special ed students may not work for our AP students and vice versa so just just keep us a breast of what we're talking about I like our discussions by the way and please any research that you guys come across send us send it our way y yeah that was going to be a caveat not a caveat that I but along those lines um it's important to have the conversations but also you know what what everybody else is doing isn't always the right thing either it's what's research based what is what is the latest show us when we look at performance or student outcomes versus you know different types of policies um so you know evidence-based um research is always useful obviously also I'm also getting nods from behind you as well um I realize why I'm confused because this says considerations at the top but mine says recommended next steps board policy considerations and then has that list I think your your presentation changed from the one that was submitted for the board okay titles Chang that was just an aside but I'm not lost anymore and that's what's [Laughter] important um yes any more questions of clarification yeah and maybe you already said this but um as far as where you got the breakdown um like the Middle School versus the high school um what what were the sources for like the advantages and disadvantages our DLC reps okay and they'll go and they will tell me that they needed more time to get more information our DLC reps also had some conversations with some additional teachers you needed a word cloud just kidding it is a very passionate conversation with our teachers and our our community and everybody else on board that's um and I don't think that anybody in this room would would argue necessarily I could be wrong I guess uh that reading isn't extra important and some type of reading outside of school time is going to be essential for all students so I would never say no homework so no reading at home or no assigning reading at home like that is really important for all for all subjects no I think we need to kind of as a group decide what the purpose of homework is and then find a process to make sure that the homework that is assigned meets that goal I we just need to be real careful and intentional as we approach creating homework policy that fits the needs of all our kids is there something from here you would like for us to work on first I think that first I'm speaking only for myself of course I think that first step there forming an agreement or a broad agreement among our our leadership and our teachers about what is homework and what do we want homework to what role do we want it to play how is it going to serve our students and that really the foundation for everything else yeah what is homework or what isn't homework and how what are the objectives that we're trying to meet with what we consider homework and I think it would be important to also find out what currently exists I mean do we really have students that are doing five six hours of homework a night because that's not reasonable if that's happening there are some similar stories coming out and how do we mitigate that um there I just have one comment kind of question like looking at um specifically High School um which I actually see more importance of with high schoolers um or with homework um but like when I'm looking at the high school advantages of no homework policy I'm seeing like very um sorry let me just take a look here I'm sorry High School disadvantages of a no homework policy they seem like very objective statements and then looking at like high school advantages is of a no homework policy it just seems really subjective like I don't know I don't I would I would like to see like a little bit more um objective I guess those seem like subjective statements and it's kind of like a high school reporting um what they believe and the other ones seem more objective looking at so would you also say that the survey for parents and Guardians could be useful a survey for teachers Andor staff could be be useful but also a survey from students could be could also be useful you know they may also identify advantages to homework that maybe we don't see from their perspective being 20 plus years removed from high school student status speaking for myself I on that um the grades would be based on exams only is not true but that was that's my own sticking point I don't think that if you have no homework doesn't mean that you're grading at in the high school level on only exams it was just one of the bullet points on the disadvantages of a no homework policy the very first thing says grades would be based on exams only yeah that's false but okay somebody had that opinion so so would you like DLC to come back at some date to be determined and kind of give you an update on the status of what Mr Lando was talking about as far as kind of that conversation starting with the definition of it and making sure it's cohered to what what they should be learning as well yeah and maybe um an outline on on how to make progress toward a more unified vision for the district so like how long that may take it may take a year and a half to get to that point and we may be bringing it back for a final decision you know in March of 20 five ouch um but you know or is it you know sure does the group think you know what what are going to be our kind of our our goal posts in a sense um in terms of what you just asked what whatever is reasonable you know not not next month okay we will we will come back at some point to be determined future date with kind of number one has to a little bit more thir DLC reps and maybe an outline of kind of what we see as kind of discussion points along the way getting there yeah that's sounds great any other questions or comments my my only comment in in sitting listening and and thinking back to is you have you probably have five different opinions and definitions at the table up here which is what we need to remember yes I yeaha let's all talk the same language let's start there that would be great um there's no public comment signed up for this did any of you all folks in the audience want to say anything else that maybe hasn't been said or that you'd like to emphasize or are we ready to roll forward with where we're at at this point can I say one please I've been trying not to oh gosh no that's this is not the space for that I I just I feel like one of the um ideas that wasn't present there you know you talk about college prep but there's also life prep and our jobs have become increasingly more important to teach life skills and I really do believe if we can better Define homework you know no one fails because they're not doing homework and and and try to address some of these um inequity issues I I think a little bit of work outside of the school day is important meaningful work of course but I think we all can agree that to some extent as an adult ad our job outside of our profession there's always something we're doing to get ready for the next day um and life is hard and life is a lot of work and I think that we need to teach kids the value of responsibility and time management um and I just I feel like homework can serve that purpose in some way again maybe more at the junior high and high school level as we're getting geared up to kind of going out on on their own so I just wanted us to consider that as well yeah yes um I don't I don't know that we need to take particular action we instr well we yeah we but I mean as far as like a formal we ask for continuing updates I mean if there is a particular motion that anybody would like to put forward now is a time to now is a great time to do that um but otherwise it sounds like staff has has has Direction and um can come come up with a reasonable reasonable timeline to revisit it with us ex we'll put it on a DLC agenda for discussion and start with the definition and also find out what we currently have guing all over the board and see if we can't come up with something that what are our goals what are our expectations for home thank you thank you thank you thank you and thank you to our DLC Reps for sitting in the front row over there I appreciate that first and second row we're here every other Wednesday come anytime thank you feel free to stay if you want um not a lot left good thank you thank you staff for all the work all right um we can move along uh to Let's see we are at Business Services all right 5.2.1 discussion action approval of design build entity for walk-in cooler freezer combination Edition at Bakery hi good evening thank you for having us here tonight um have with me Vincent sah who is the director of nutrition services for the school district um bringing forward the design build entity approval for the project the walk-in cooler freezer combination expansion at the bakery out at the Corporation Yard um back in June the board directed staff to circulate um number one decided that design build um project delivery method was appropriate for this project and then directed staff to circulate a RF QP RF uh request for qualification SL proposal proposals for the project um which we did um we actually ended up doing it twice um the first time U there were some mistakes made um by by both of the parties that proposed so they were rejected and then we we redid the process again this time we had four companies that qualified to uh submit statements of qualifications and proposals for the project however only two did um um those two contractors were evaluated um on their qualifications things like how long their firm has been in business their insurability their financials um their current commitments do they have the capacity to do the work um past project experiences with design build projects safety record and um letters of reference from other customers additionally they um submitted a proposal for the project in a separate packet um to the district which discussed um their ideas for the project um what project enhancements they may bring to the table um the equipment that they proposed to supply um what their services were going to be regarding preconstruction going through the design the design of this project will be uh reviewed and approved by the city of Chico because the Corporation Yard is in the city of Chico and not under the jurisdiction of the division of the state architect like a school is and then their overall cost so those two proposals and qualification statements that we received were from uh UBC United building contractors of Chico and modern building contractors of Chico um based on the evaluation by the committee which included myself and Vince and Saro and Chris click who is the mechan his mechanical um worker who oversees all of his mechanical equipment helped us to evaluate the technical side of the proposals um the committee brings forward the recommendation that the board approved United building contractors for the project um so you know the cost um proposals were not the only thing evaluated but they were very close in the case of of both contractors Modern Building Company proposed 1,21 2017,18 th000 and United building contractors um proposed 1,239 so um within $4,000 of each other the main differences between the two uh proposals that we received were one of the contractors UB had a an enhancement where they decided to relocate an electrical panel to another location therefore allowing more space for our buses and our trucks to um maneuver around the building so it was a beneficial enhancement and it was included in their price um the other big difference was the horsepower of the equipment they proposed um four units with much higher BTU then the um other company had only two units with less BTUs so um we determined that they were a better value United building contractors and that's why we're bringing it forward to you tonight if you have any questions Vince is here with me and we can answer them now um I I recognize the UCB well we're all familiar with modern but UCB is a firm that we have worked with in the past so both of these companies are familiar to us and our local yes they have both provided um very beneficial services to The District in the past a modern is a current contractor at mcmanis mcmanis yes UBC isn't currently working for the district well I like what the UBC suggestions on the panel and the increase in the BTUs um was there a the committee recommended um UCB correct UBC yeah yes H you're looking at a dyslexic board member who gets backwards all the time what you're talking about when you're ready Madam president um if there's no further questions from the board uh no public comments I can call for a motion I move approval of the recommendation um from the uh screening committee on the letting of the contract to UBC there you go thank you I'll second that all right we have a motion by member Robinson and a second by member Lando uh any further discussion board okay our last uh vote was unanimous so we can um all vote uh signify your approval by saying I I any opposed it's unanimous it passes thank you um our next item we want chocolate chip cookies as soon as you're up and running we can do that this District makes the most amazing chocolate chip cookies thank you very much um our next item is 5.2.2 a discussion action removal of existing trees at Pleasant Valley High School's baseball batting cages thank you um tonight we have another another person here accompanying us um teacher from Pleasant Valley high school and varsity baseball coach John maudis is here um to help answer any questions you might have on this topic um right now the baseball team has one batting cage and since the block schedule implementation at the high school um the hours are uh severely limited for practice time while it's light enough outside and we have three teams uh that are trying to get time in the batting cage during practice so they want to uh it's very exciting they want to add additional batting cages to the baseball facility so um in order to do so as you can see in your board packet you have a layout of where the new cage will be and where the current cage is as you can see the large rectangles side by side and to the right you will see um some trees that are along the fence line that intrude into that area um so tonight we are bringing forward a request to remove those trees in order to facilitate room room for the batting uh cage the new full-size batting cage uh John and his uh Team have spoken with the neighbors U just to make sure that um they're okay with the removal of the tree and they're in fact in favor of um of removing the trees most of them are just ones that have sprouted up you know all on their own so um we can open it up for questions at this time Julie um because I'm I live a block from this work site so I went down to take a look at what was in the picture versus what I could see when I went over there so I'm lost I couldn't figure out where exactly this is along is it is it behind the bleachers yes it is okay just west of the bleachers okay along the property line with the neighbors yeah if um if that's the the answer then now I know exactly what this is representing um there was no budget information included that I saw sorry about that I thought it was I mean it could be an oversight on my part too it's a yeah it's in that first paragraph It's a sports booster funded project what first paragraph oh see I always go to the bottom to look for like fiscal implications sorry should have included it down there sorry about that that's okay oh it is in there I just oh it is there too kind of okay so it's fully funded by the boosters it's not it's it's expensive to remove trees like yeah really expensive it is um and it it will be costly be very beneficial that it will be costly um but John's already uh got some quotes and he's working on narrowing it down okay I need to just tell you that I'm never a fan of removing a trees for any reason except for safety I'm I'm speaking specifically to you and also I played Varsity softball for four years but in Chester and we had to practice in the gym because it was snow and the only time that we got to get on the grass in the early season was when we came the valley so just so you know it's doable I'm just totally kind of yanking your chain right now like yeah we all just put up with what we have given right if I had to practice in the gym in the batting cages uh among the baseball team you guys could probably figure it out but these trees are are in the way of every everybody's everybody's space including the neighbors and if the neighbors are a fan of that too I think as a neighbor my only concern would be my energy cost going up because you wouldn't have that shading anymore but yeah yeah and there's no map provided for my reference and I don't really feel like digging onto the map right now I have it open but um it's not that important I just wanted to make you have to stand up there even longer I'd be happy to comment I feel like I have a couple strikes ahead against me just no you don't you really don't because I'm a I'm a cal good baseball terminology you just used right there well done you so number one I'm here representing the Mustangs against the the the yaggies um so there's that and then I also teach math math lab and I use ISL and I assign homework and there's all kinds of um we did this is my sixth year uh as a teacher at Pleasant Valley High School I'm kind of new to the game as a teacher so you guys um it's well you guys are beyond my pay grade um but this is my third career didn't first one didn't quite work out um you grew out of it so but anyway since I've been here we've we've we've started another uh freshman program there's Now 60 uh approximately 60 kids that are participating we have the one baseball field and so it it is a challenge for us to um to practice in our facility with just the one field and this is going to increase our space tremendously the tree line uh that we are talking about um four of the five trees are are volunteer trees and they they share the fence line there will still be foliage along the tree line it's just the one major one is called just I knew you'd want to probably know which I I saw the species names it's the uh it's a atlas Alder is what's can't read down my glasses are not helping Cedar it's an Atlas Cedar so and um anyway this is all fundraised by our program with golf tournaments and car Raffles and and different things of that nature and I do have a good price and a and and a reputable reputable company that's ready to start um at the end of the week if we get an approval tonight so Julie is this the coach that I called on because there was somebody stealing gravel from behind the bleachers at Pleasant Valley that might have been me me using a shovel taking the putting in my and and a pickup and I sent an email to Julie and said Do You Realize somebody's stealing the ground I have approval from my athletic director for the record she did tell me that it was approved but yes it was you then with the pickup and the shovel stealing gravel from what was left over at the that that would be me anyway I sometimes less is more so I think I'm just going to stop talking when you're ready mad PR I'm still trying to figure out where it is on the side I pulled up so it's not the she the like the trees that that are like parallel with the manzanita that kind of provide shade for all the spectators it would be kind of behind the batting cage behind it they're sort of like tucked in the corner it's the the big one that's tucked in the corner that's sort of out of the way it does I've had branches actually fall um it's it's big and okay probably so not not parallel with the road but perpendicular to the road correct cool along that fence line I was really good in Geometry just so you know probably had some homework assignment help calculus is that really did me in uh those differentials um great I have no further questions sorry for giving you rough time I expected to get be given a hard time oh good I'm glad I could deliver it's about this time that I start getting kind of silly too uh any other questions or comments everybody's getting sick of me I think let's move it along Doby don't don't confirm just kidding I'm sorry silly okay um public comment not seeing any uh do we have a motion sure I'll move approval of the proposal for removal I second all right we have a a a motion for approval in a second uh all those in favor I I I it passes unanimously wonderful thank you very much thank you Julie I appreciate thank you thank you see you later one see if those those can be chipped up and use those wood chip somewhere else on campus that might need it okay right it's my turn still to move on uh 5.2.3 discussion action Charter Schools measure K projects requests I'm excited about this one yeah we have all of them some great projects um up at Forest Ranch Charter School um the first one is the installation of removal and installation of some new doors that have just reached their useful age so they need to be uh removed been replaced and the installation of some um basketball it says basketball hoops but it's actually the back stops um they already purchased the back stops out of other funds but um they don't have the ability to put them up because they bought steel ones and they're very very heavy so they had to bring in a contractor to help them um get those installed and then um the pricing you've already reviewed the pricing on the in wall table for their cafeteria building but the price came the final price came in 13,000 more so you previously approved 75,000 and now it's um 83,000 in change uh for those eight new in wall tables uh so there just a price increase that you're approving for that tonight do we know why I mean not that it's because we were trying to uh we used what he thought what the price was going to be on our initial approval um but then when he gave the final quote it it just was higher but still Falls within Forest ranches yes it's still their measure K funds um so it's just sort of accounting adjustment there and then um they have some really cool but really old metal play equipment and a really large um yard uh in the back of the campus it's a great campus by the way um but some of the equipment is a little bit too tall and it's a round metal play structure that they haven't allowed the kids to play on for quite some time because it's a little too high off the ground for their liking so they uh applied for and received a grant from a company called game time to add a new playground to the site actually a whole new play structure like you see at some of our elementary schools and then also some individual play equipment that that can be placed um in other areas to spread the kids out a little bit more so um those three projects are what we're bringing forward tonight for your review and approval so just for clarification the 250,000 listed here is that all the measure K funds or is that measure K plus the grant that's measure K the grant is separate I was very impressed with the the play structures that they've selected they're pretty cool yeah I think the kids are really going to like them yeah the theme is great up there so I don't know if you all got a chance to look at it but it kind of looks um woodsy outdoorsy kind of play equipment will fit right in I'm hearing no additional questions um see no public comment um I'll call for a motion I move approval of this expenditure for Forest Ranch Charter second we have a motion for approval from Member Robinson and a second from um member tennis um all those in favor I I thank you so exciting their metal equipment is it's a a lot Isa has played on those tall slides was fascinating uh okay up next um we're going to 5.3 which is the board um discussion action on chica Unified School District board self- evaluation so this is just in here so that the board and the community is is aware that the survey is out it is attached here in the the agenda it is also on our website um Erica has made sure that it has gone out to all Chico Unified staff it has gone out to our families and it's also posted um on our website and Facebook great and the deadline is November it's on the agenda I just I clicked off of it now I can't remember it's like in five days the fifth Sunday November 5th Sunday Sunday November 5th and that also includes members of the public is that right yeah um and so did it it get sent out to any additional media Outlets or just through our own networking channels just through our own networking channels okay all right um great that is on here's discussion action um but I don't think that there's really any action unless the board wants to give us further Direction no and um we'll we'll receive the feedback from that at the next meeting correct okay great any other questions or comments board all right we'll move right along um item six is board member request to agendize an item um no board member requests were submitted for this meeting um and with that that uh we will move into closed session do we have any public comment on closed session all right then the board will now go into closed SE closed session I think Kelly did