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[Music] pap [Music] welcome to the week five Super Smash Bros uh competitive league I guess I don't really know what to call it anymore it's went through three different names so far all righty it looks like the map is Final Destination a pretty decently sized map so pretty mediumweight uh lastone I guess a much info on the map actually besides so looks we are facing who again Tristan I don't know you read it it's uh Ben Davidson University High School cool yeah you want to read some dad jokes by waiting oh yeah actually we should probably disclose who's playing tonight so for first we have myself uh Tristan not Tristan sorry uh I can't remember everyone's name for some reason having a stroke it's like having a stroke for some reason uh the guy that plays Snake Noah Noah Lucas and Jaden good thing we have names here yeah so it's myself Jacob Jacob I can't think of names for some reason today I'm we got Noah Lucas you yes and Jaden yes I can't say names for some reason all of which are on Varsity is which uh I believe Lucas is going to play Mr gaming watch tonight Noah is going to be playing snake I myself is going to play Samus and jadden playing Isabelle so unless we want a counter pick against somebody I don't see it changing so look like our names mixed up looks like var's hopping in the match go ahead and go to that the first pick is going to be Noah looks like they pick a Kirby so that's going to be a very hard match for the Kirby because he's pretty lightweight like I said said last time that is true does he still take damage if no he actually slightly heals from it wow that's kind of unfortunate for no yes but I don't think he's goingon to do it true let's hope this guy doesn't know that you know he is able to do it looks like Noah is just having fun throwing his little balls around the stage hoping they blow up in something oh no with the misted grab that's always a tough one o Kirby's Dash attack kills that's really that's that's really bad I used to M Kirby too so yeah looks like nobody's just going to follow him like uh if it works it works does work just hovering over his own grenade as one as the American does yes see this is slight tough match up for Noah because this Kirby just jump over all of histiles I don't think Noah really knows Kirby very well no because no one in the Esports would plays him yeah know his best bet is just hopefully he can try to get about high per sense and kill him with a forward smash or up smash it might just be closer range combat which isn't necessarily good for snake but he's okay at it I haven't seen Noah use it a lot but gets him with a C4 that is like the biggest killer for Noah on this stage like the C4 is so hard to see I myself right in with the floor yeah I was say I myself has died to it countless times on this map pretty yeah he saw that one that's uptil that's good I do wonder what this plan is cuz I just seen him trying to close in space but no real big objective like that trying to take his powers ain't really too much combos I say that he gets a down air combo it's interesting this Kirby I don't think I've ever seen a Kirby with like insane strategies as far as like Combos and stuff go like they can hit combos every once in a while but you clearly have not watched a lot of Super Smash BR tournaments no I really haven't yeah just ones with peanut which is a little mac player I always forget you play Little Mac and nothing wrong with it it's just a really good really weird character I don't really know what to say honestly I guess we could read some dad jokes we could yeah yeah what does sea monsters eat I don't know what do sea monsters eat fish and ships fishing ships okay all right okay I'll take I mean that's not even no this is a play on words all right I got this like that jokes I got this what do you call a sad strawberry what do you call a sad strawberry a blueberry what it's sad strawberry I get it I look like how am I supposed to react am I supposed to laugh no you're supposed to just stay there in the void just blank face you just come back from deam right looks like we're in the match here Noah going get a palatina get a ref [ __ ] car also can space out Noah so it's going to be for him oh hitting with the Aerials I wonder who generally has a better aerial set than palatina really palatina has a better aial set with her uh n she can just carry isn't that like what Mario does where he's able to just like the down be infinite whatever uh no cuz down is the water spout I think it's the down air yeah oh no it dies dies to the reflection I think think Lucas should actually go against his palatina really yeah cuz Lucas can go up and close and personal and the Really W do anything I imagine he's doing Mr gaming watch right yep yeah even if she uses her projectiles Lucas can mostly exorb them so I think that's it's a good plan you don't call me the info guy for nothing what what is it um what is Mr gaming watches weight CL we class uh like I said Jackson it just depends what stage uh what website you use the official wiki he is a lightweight so okay Mr gaming watch is a hard character to fight uh just because he's he's very agile M yeah and he has low frame count instead of all the other characters which go at a full how many frames uh it just depends most heavy weights go to four or five and Mr G watch for a lightweight goes to like one or two frames per second which is really good and Frames is how fast the move comes out by the way yeah it's also kind of annoying playing him because Mr gaming watch definitely doesn't have very many signs that he's about to do a move yeah or either doesn't have a lot of kill options yeah so there like Lucas finds a carry but doesn't stick it what is what is the one where Mr game watch Puffs out the smoke uh it's just jab so it's you hold a essentially okay oh Lucas finds the neutal be no that's a down be I'm sorry neutal be is where he throws food he's a very wasteful man yeah Mr gam watch is just a minut society sometimes yeah he really y there's that one but very few kill options most smash TXS only kill options you have like up smash can you believe he has a three frame invincibility no that's that's kind of broken yep so cheeky but again that's like also takes a little while to come out though true okay it looks like Lucas is going to have a better time on the ground than in the air with palotina air move set he wanted a carry off stage and get the cheeky kill but I actually do not know if uh Lucas has a spiking move no his down air does Spike it's just probably going to kill his down air is the key right yeah his down air is the key original it's similar to uh to link where the down air just kind sword yeah yeah but if it is he has a easier chance to get hit out of it yeah the key is shorter than the sword isn't it no which is that it's relatively weaker oh okay I'm confused how that didn't hit hit the palatina yeah it's kind of odd I wonder if Lucas knows he can exorb it I don't think he does I don't think he does he hasn't used anything so far so yeah he just doesn't really want to approach either but when he does he does get these small chip damage where he gets punished for approaching so it's going to be great okay do find the bomb now let's hope he can get away without losing another stock that I can see it awesome I just want to see if he goes for the RNG with the hammer oh that would be awesome just instant nine that's another reason why watch is so freaking weird just annoying sometimes yeah because it's just luck there's no an poot yeah oh loses second stock you know what that's okay he's going to take this last one they're gonna be pretty much even he's going to somehow jb3 I can feel it even though he's One stock not how that works I know but listen if you can't break the laws of society it makes you stop breaking the walls of Esports I don't know what I'm saying I'm you're not I'm really tired today you know what that's okay I woke up a lot earlier than I should have all thanks to Daylight SA I hate L savings yep I'm I'm going be real for a second oh looks like Lucas Perry the Perry Oh you can just hit the bombs and they go away yeah as long as do enough damage oh looks like Lucas hits him into Stage but does not give enough damage to reset the yepy awesome yeah that's actually a very cheeky kill but that's good though for Lucas cuz like he loves getting shy kills like that yeah so sorry for yaan in stream all right I wonder you going to counter pick you just got a yeah you want to throw a random guest in there I think it's going to be palatina I'm thinking King K rule I've seen so many King K rules you know what I'm also get heavyweight Bowser Bowser mhm okay let's hope for that it's going to be funny that'd be hilarious okay come oh T link it's toun link yeah the counterpart of your link I can see Lucas pulling this off yeah he could definitely it's he can absorb most of the explosions and he could reflect the arrow and Bo ring mm which Lucas is really good at timing that just right overall I think I've ever every time I've played with theun link he's ever he's either been really really good or really really bad there's no inet no there just isn't an in between oh I guess I was wrong there actually is spamming I mean true just like that sometimes projectile spammers yep but like they say if it's not broken don't fix it I mean yeah I used to get really mad at people for spamming though yeah but then you could be like oh it's easily be read so I mean yeah there's a hammer you just have to be better just be better actually there is a way to build the hammer up there is yeah so it's not just RNG it's like a scripted number between certain points oh but it's like one in 100 so unless you know exactly where you're at it's not worth doing yeah it's not worth keeping track of I actually figured this out in Smash 4 oh Lucas Sav looks like ton link is taking Lucas's last stock yeah I wonder who he GNA send in next I could see Jaden going in or myself yeah could be other of them yeah I have experience with links playing with my good buddy and co-host Jackson and yourself not co-host right now oh yes that's me yeah you're the better one the better one I say the more a talkative one let's go with that yeah you want to do some uh sponsors uh yeah I could do some sponsors all right go ahead and read the first one then okay quick shout out to some of our sponsors Adam Wells thank you to our sponsor Adam Wells internet Telecom TV your local service provider with gig Speed Internet TV and telephone services for business and residential customers in Adams and Wells County I play you get another Jackson's coming in hi what's up get yourself situated little bit of help for from our from our head coach Dro over here I need a haircut you need a haircut I badly need a haircut I think it looks fine are you okay mentally or physically good question mentally no looks like we're getting into theame game now mhm we're getting into the next round we have Travis versus young Link versus Toon Link actually link oh barely difference yeah I was going to say it's hard even though I play link a lot it's hard for me to tell the difference between young Link and ton link mhm they are very similar characters and they almost have the same move set we need to get rid of some of these links replace them with like Waluigi or something he badly needs to be a character in this everybody wants him yeah there's a bunch of fan animations about him just decimating the smash people yeah they're really good ones too it's clear people love Waluigi it's the fan favorite out of the whole Mario roster just because of how much he's been ignored by the uh Nintendo team because they they don't really care about him which is is kind of an issue yeah such a great character it really is better than Wario I don't like looking at Wario he makes me angry but why I don't I don't know why he just does I can understand that but still I mean like I can understand why you get mad looking at it looks W Luigi did has done more than War has Yeah by far more than him oh o tune link over here coming in with the next stock I will say all it takes is one com one combo from Travis and that just I'm thinking Travis is going to get the stock without getting a single percent if he plays it if he plays jinxing remember okay no I remember that remember that from last time I'm not going to say anything anymore oh Travis able to read read that quick down that goes leading him to I find it funny anytime they you they shoot up and you see them yeah just goes in goes into Oblivion just Team Rocket we're blasting off again that's what it's inspired by right I believe I want to say yes but I could be wrong cuz I know in the fourth game they also do the like it shines into a little star yeah okay looks like this tun link definitely knows how to use the projectiles in conjunction with the the close range you know using the master sword yeah I'm be honest I like toun link and young links bomb better than regular links really cuz you don't it's timed but it takes forever it takes forever but then again if you get it right you can mess with people mhm but then again I also like regular links as well cuz you can control it whenever I generally like regular link more because there's there's more options I like playing regular link more but if we're talk about like the bombs then it's toun link and young Link yeah so this toun link seems to be very annoying not letting not letting Travis get any of his any tune link you come across can be really annoying if they play them right most the time online wherever I'm playing they don't know what they're doing but this one seems to know exactly what they doing if he on the that's another St there goes the last stock and yep Travis on his last stock h that's beautiful to see us in the lead it seems to be a very close matchup this time which is exciting that's nice to see yep it's always nice to see that um yeah let's wait to see what they have to counter we're on we're on round three right yeah I think so I think Travis is are third player yeah okay yeah there's this will be round six this we've done three so far you want to read off a dad joke ah you do it cuz last one I said wasn't was the last one I said wasn't in the school appropriate range oh really yeah I yeah no okay why shouldn't you write with a broken pen why because it's pointless I'm we'll let that sit there okay we're getting into just like Travis you hurt my brain some days getting into the next match looks like they picked a SORA which I have some history with Sora don't like fighting Sora at all actually so this will be fun Sor coming in with the first hits oh the grab chis has to watch it with this Sor because one wrong move and he Sora could just ruin it for him Sora is a very good combo character I know combos for Sora and I don't even play Sora so he could Zora could get you're good no it's not that a burp and it was like in my throat it would come out um but s Sora could just get him up to well never mind he already has him up to percent yeah he could just pull a kamakazi and just end it no that's um that's yeah no I was thinking Sora is a little bit different although Sora could do something stupid to kamakazi yeah it just the official name of the move wouldn't be kamakazi like it is on hero I hero is a lot like at least has to get one stock yeah i' I'd appreciate being able to see that that would be awesome yeah oh it does not seem like he's going to be able to oh wow dang it that's that's our third charact our third person with three stocks and their third person no their fourth person with three stocks yeah that's their fourth you know what that's awesome that's good to see looks like Jaden is up next with Isabelle Isabelle is a tough character so I and the Very uh Universal yeah Isel can fight a lot of different characters pretty well especially Jaden's is well because Jaden is very good at Isabel I'm confident in the boys their ability to uh yeah knock this out of the par oh Jayden already in there with combos I can't remember if Sora has a throwable item no I don't think so but they do have that means Jaden's pocket's going to be pretty much useless that's it I guess it doesn't matter because yeah Jayden's at 5% and sora's already at 87 gosh Jinx him again my bad I took that where's some wood I need to like keep a wood block on the desk time with you Superstition is not something I follow often so oh when you when you see it mattering oh okay looks like Jaden's pretty much got this knock on wood I'm GNA need you to say everything I want to say because now Jaden's at 78% actually no jayen has jayen does not have this he's going to die right now that that's how it works right Jaden at least know Jaden knows exactly what he's doing so just just let it play out yeah yeah it's best with Jaden if you just let it play out instead of trying to guess what happens I learned that myself Isabelle's recovery can uh it it does its job really well too well yeah it's you have to spike as well you're not going to be able to just edgeguard them until they die yeah Edge guarding is not an option with Isabel all oh um or King DDD not King DDD King K Ru yeah he does the same thing oh okay this is sora's last stock Jaden's on his see if Jad restock with Sora that'd be awesome I don't know if that's going to happen but yeah with the percentage I want to I want to hope so but what the percentage Jaden's Jaden is at right now and the way s the Sor is playing it doesn't seem like he's going to be able to probably not but Jaden has done it before with that high percentage so I really can't well well there goes the fireball can't use that anymore never mind okay jayen getting some nice combos in oh okay first I 100% believe that this match will go however however it goes I almost cursed it again yeah all it takes is one rocket which you could see that one rocket in the middle of the stage yeah lead him over the rocket oh that could have been good though it could have been good but the rocket just disappeared before he could get to it oh and that's game that's actually awesome that joke quick why can't you trust the king of the jungle why can't you uh trust the king of the jungle because he's always lying stop that's almost good enough to make me laugh almost okay so we might end up swapping to JV here in just a second might be not saying we are maybe oh we're probably going to be able to get like all of the JV thing M since JV starting later than uh yeah starting at five uh our coach and um which school are we going against they said it to me earlier I cannot remember they're all the same yeah um I canot for Life me the coaches communicate and um we decided to go at 4:30 instead of 5 and so that's what we went that was the time that best worked out yeah JV scrolling through the uh was say uh yeah they're scrolling through their old pictures for some reason I don't know why they're doing that yeah want to see if we can get Travis in here for more dad jokes that'd be awesome yeah POS possibly could get tra I was in here for dad jokes oh never mind oh I guess not never mind you know what screw Travis I'm just as good let me let me find one looks like jv's about to start and hearing about here in around 15 minutes hopefully okay okay I have a good one why are pirates called Pirates why I don't know they just are I'm proud of that one I question you life decisions I do too I was about to say you should too okay we have Travis over here fighting Terry that's a hard one uh I don't think I've ever actually fought Terry before I'll be honest I forgot that was a character yeah I completely forgot that was a character Terry's DLC so a lot of people don't even have Terry even even though the switch I play on has the DLC I genuinely keep on forgetting that that's character cuz I've I never play and I never see anybody else play play it so why would you like yeah you know so this is the first time I get to see the move set um so Terry already over here losing a stock Travis is doing a good job of zoning making sure Terry stays far away yeah Terry's a very close-range character a lot like mine actually oh what so what does the go do for Terry go I honestly could not tell you with uh reliability but I'm pretty sure if you just Mash some combo of buttons okay so I was just told that it get it gives him special moves that do more damage thank you I was about to say a bunch of bull crap I mean you wouldn't be wrong um so yeah Travis already taking the Terry down two stocks well only losing one see if Travis can get his second three stock that would be awesome yes oh he didn't go for the down yes he has three stock somebody before and he almost three stock two oh well never mind that would that would have hit though would a hit Samus turned around for some reason that wasn't Travis that was Samus Terry oh I don't know what just happened there that's his go abilities oh those are his gut yeah and they're just like stupid strong for no reason I mean they already have Travis up to 81% that's that's stupid well it takes this one good hit and then just one good hit oh can Travis two stock it getting close here hopefully oh roll right into Terry's freaking go attack it'd be surprising if the Terry could clutch it you know what cuz that means it's kind of looking dangerous right now yeah it but mean the Terry went down throw up throw oh switching it up a bit say if the Terry can kill him one more time that means the Terry just went through three lives with one stock with one yeah with one stock which up throw yes yes up throw into the winning game he didn't go blasting off again though that doesn't matter we still won how do you organize a space party what how do you organize a space party how do you organize a I don't know you plan it I even I didn't even realize you were going for a dad joke I was just like why are you asking me this you plan it you know what okay that's a good one that's a good one oh okay so we have Travis coming up uh facing off against a palotina oh and JV has a a little mac proba be honest earlier thought that was Zelda you thought it was Zelda yeah I originally thought when I first saw him them play against when I originally first saw Noah play against her I thought there was Zelda at first um no this palatin is from kigus yeah but they look the same so they look similar yeah okay over here Travis you okay yeah Travis is uh just a voice taking a lot of hits here it's not necessarily looking good he's starting to get recovery though okay if I'm not mistaken if Travis loses that's his last game isn't it or it is okay so he has to really watch it what are what are the numbers for like how many people have played two rounds each okay unless one team goes through the car the other team first you know winning the first round I think Travis can bring it all the way all all the other people see what he see what if he can do what the Terry couldn't see what see if he can do what the Little Mac did like what two that does not seem like he's going to be able to dang it palotina coming in with the win but she lost a stock so that's that's still useful to the rest of the team I lost an electron you lost an electron you have to really keep an eye on it on them you say it right I didn't even say it right you really have to keep an eye on them because because it's an eyon okay what did zero say to eight nice belt I I had to really think about that one oh no you're going for an Alum no no I'll do it after this okay so we have like how do you say it right we have uh we have Jaden going up against the palotina palotina is already lost his stock thanks to Travis so yep I have I have faith in Jaden well we saw how he played that first time yeah almost three stock the per that was against Sora though did he almost three stock him I'm pretty sure he did it was pretty close see if they can avenge fishing hook see if they can avenge Noah from the first round oh Isabelle's fishing stock is fishing stock H fishing rod is um it's okay it's annoying that's for sure especially as a character I'm sorry I'm sorry bro just fished pina's stock away that's not that doesn't okay hey I'm not complaining I'm not going to complain I'm want to say something but I can't because it's not friendly family friendly so I'm just not going to say it why do you have to say something about not being able to say it just don't say it what I don't know okay oh oh pelo coming in with the big combos I still have faith in Jaden well I mean oh there it is yeah oh I was about to say that could have probably Cena could have survived that but she could have but it didn't happen gave up too early that sucks what Jaden has to lose once stock yeah yeah one stock yeah one exced see I don't know for some reason my head I keep on thinking there four stocks instead of three I I don't know why maybe because it's an even number yeah I'm excited to see who they're going to use to counter pick or if they're just going to go with the same characters that they uh already went with in the last round we'll see looks like uh JV is getting ready to set up for their match which is going to start soon okay go ahead let me hear it no you get to say one it's not stupid enough though oh here's a good one see if I mess it up what's cinar oh a purple one I've never I don't think I've fought a purple one before say the joke before my bed my bad okay what's small and red and has a rough voice what a horse radish what was that what was that it was supposed to be a laugh like like a pompus laugh yep definitely a definitely a laugh my bad I guess this guy Jayden getting some nice air combos in oh and Sy is what is that up a upb I I believe it's upb that that one's actually better for going down that was his up yeah that was his up B his upb is better for going down than it is going up which is weird because it's the opposite on all the other characters at least this in C War isn't like the others I faced really just Spam that move right there that is it's a very easy move to spam because it it goes right through Shields and it works too which is the annoying part yeah it's not necessarily Fair yeah no it's one of those moves that once you play against it it's you know it's going to happen but there's nothing you can do about it mhm yeah you you'll you'll see incen like going into for the grab yeah and then you're just like what am I I can't do anything at this point should we read some of the sponsors I believe Jordan's going first for JV oh yes JV starting off uh all their matches have we hosted the lobby every time maybe I think we have pretty sure we have almost everyone as far as the varsity battle I was about to say did that in or just jump off I was like wait what no uh it's pretty close actually yeah jayen Jaden just has to fishing rod that oh never mind incin is left with two stocks left that's that's actually pretty good incin usually they're not that good usually they just like spamming one button yeah every time which is nice to see at least there's someone out there who is good who actually knows how to play the yes who actually knows how to play incinerar cuz all you get on online is just spammers with in when it comes to incinerar oh oh okay looks like Noah's coming up like oh oh this is a junior varsity with Jordan playing this is um pyro mythra combo and it's very um annoying it can be especially if they side B all the time yeah it's a very basic pyro and mythia is the one character I not still I'm still getting used to fighting mhm yeah it is a newer character cuz they can swap and it just messes with my brain any time that happens yeah cuz you don't notice it until you already see the move happening especially when they pick a a skin that doesn't really show the difference between them like the purple one like the purple one purple and uh pretty sure C's the same it's the toothpaste colors right yeah yep same it's like mint green and white it's no it's it's a color that shouldn't be on there but it is it looks weird but I if it works if it works it works you know looks like Jordan has already pretty pretty well read this P mythra yeah oh so what is the green move what is that is that just the the snowflake yeah what uh that's PK ice is what it's technically called and and that was PK Fire right there that was PK Fire um so why is what where does it get the PK from if I'm being totally honest I have no idea uh yeah no I can't think of anything oh okay pyrra falling off the edge two stocks the pyom myth yeah looks like we're on oh oh okay no falling off stage that's okay though yep incor has got one stock left let's see if uh we can take it which knowing Noah he could he could come back from that yeah cuz it's it's Noah that we're talking about the man who just randomly places C4 yep there it is say just randomly places C4 just all over the map it's impossible to play against him cuz you you never see the C4 until Rd explodes MH it's even worse playing against him on a flat stage when you have no air Mobility like little mac oh oh barely survived that that could have been really dangerous for Noah it's good to see that he survived better watch it too hit it hit it oh dang it oh he did he just Chuck the grenade at him and sent him I think so I don't even think that was the great grenade exploding it okay back to JV yeah we have a Jordan doing a bunch of fancy tricks as he's falling off stage because the man can't just decide to die this um what's the character's name or going to JV there it is uh so oh corin's what is that forward smash I believe right through the pretty sure that was are they taunting are they allowed to I don't think they're allowed to do that they shouldn't but I'm pretty sure that's technically illegal yeah I don't think there should be but but they already did it um disqualification just call him out for it no it's fine hey he hey he broke the rule oo PK ice that one it can be a really strong Spike yeah Korn's a really annoying character to go against because you get stuck in the sky you just pull himself up to you and just start comboing you again even if you managed to get away from Corin it's like it's like you can't really get away from him because as soon as you get away from him he just no um actually it's her her corin's at corin's at her okay usually we reference the other team's players by their characters gender because we don't know the other team well enough just are you assuming my gender no uh question mark wait NES can't absorb no corin's why not it's a it's a projectile yeah but it's is it cuz it's not like an energy yes it's not it's yeah it's it's complicated you see what I mean n dying at like 2% you see what I mean now fails the recovery that is so glad to see you uh what are the what are the numbers for the people um looks like we're going back to Varsity um is Noah the last couldn't tell you uh no because we still got Lucas so no it's not last probably the third then because we've seen Jaden and that oh it was a grenade okay just watching Noah try to recover here the Pichu seems slow to react yeah might want to play some level n Bots just like in C you never you don't see that many people playing Pichu no pichu's Pichu and Pikachu well Pikachu is not a very good character already but they basically took Pikachu and made him worse okay so uh Pichu every time he does an attack where he uses electricity you'll notice he also takes some damage for himself oh uh and that's tradeoff for I believe speed oh no has more speed uh uh that is so Random I say it could blow up that C4 oo throw off stage do better than he did last time they're celebrating down there cuz he just he just clutched two star I mean yeah why wouldn't you be surprising no was surprised celebrating yes yes I don't it's not like I blame them for celebrating yeah I believe that was it too yeah for varsity Varsity I believe moving on to junior varsity still in their first uh round and now we go to JV mhm Academy team is technically what they're called but yeah barely a difference and now we're going and now we're going to JV looks like we got oh boy okay it says Jordan but this is bro bro um up with the Sonic Travis is coming in looks like Travis is coming in here oh boy that Terry really threw me off you want to stay you can go and stay nah oh of course dude the three people huh do three people yeah I just can't hear anything no he's gone hey he F us up he didn't want to yeah sorry if it's going to be a little loud for a second yeah that match was pretty scary against that Terry yeah Terry he came out of nowhere just that was so weird he he hit the go power and all of a sudden bam gone bam it's cuz like you could barely get out of those moves as samis it's like no definitely weird yeah I guess Noah is coming in here so Noah's coming in yeah am I trading no uh no just going to be in here for an interview I guess all right so in that match we played if you're yeah you got to swat down a little bit oh yeah in that match we played how did you feel about it so far um the first round uh the first round was tough we we were getting beat pretty good it was the probably the toughest game we've had uh all season um I actually got upset uh at how bad I played during the first match he actually played very well way better than what I did well I didn't play as good as I thought I would so I actually I actually practiced um before the second round which helped a lot um the second round I did a lot better yeah the second round that Terry absolutely scared me so oh yeah with that go meter absolutely yeah we were two stocks ahead and all of a sudden came out of nowhere yeah and uh fun little fact for the folks at home we actually lost to this team last year we did yeah I didn't know that yeah I'm only a freshman so so we came back and beat him this year it's the uh yeah so like uh most the coach has been saying we have a pretty good chance at State this year yeah so hope for that and Lucas is saying that he really W going to get Pichu so totally fictional yeah all right so let's go back to JV no you want stay here to commentate with us uh yeah I will all righty so uh we have Brody playing the Sonic as well actually we could go back to the interview viiew again um to say so um Everybody played great um it was pretty even the first round like everybody got got their character um wiped out it was pretty much even fights the entire time until that second round when we had uh jayen uh Jaden take down one player and lose two stocks from him so and then uh you went up first right Travis that was that get that ter that scared everyone yeah mainly me but so then yeah Jaden kind of uneven the pling field a little bit with that incinerar when he took the stock away I think that really helped a lot um I honestly kind of find it weird that they counterpicked Hollow Bastion which did not work well for incinerar or Pikachu Pichu sorry but it only worked for Terry so far yeah that's was a real plot twist it's another thing that platform kind of screws him over sometimes especially with my C4 on snake yeah but you still got the Pichu that was very risky that was a close match um I was kind of surprised how close that was you know I thought you're were going to be able to get Pichu with all of all of your all my stocks mhm I I sometimes having trouble uh fight fighting Pichu when I play online really yeah Pichu is such a small character that my grenades almost don't hit so we should probably get back to JV which is I do not actually know what game they're on believe this is a second so like I was saying Ro's Sonic is very just go hit him and then run away hit him run away MH I see that a lot in most Sonic Mains so sometimes it works it works it's the only way depends on if they're oh yeah guess it didn't work this time yeah so Rob really just like uh Mr gaming watch his moves come out like two to one frame so it's very it's very disgusting sometimes yeah yeah just like Little Mac just like some of the moves are faster than you can even react yeah especially as up smash that's insane just run up over got him requ little oh looks help looks like I'm needed if you want to put that on you can just do that with us this mic you want that mic oh you're feeling special now other mic I got the big mic oh so now you're Mr Big Man mhm ah all righty so I believe uh I actually didn't really pay attention to what stage it was oh that's right it is still Final destinational Destination yeah well they're doing that I don't know how many times theyve read the sponsors but let's go ahead and read some dad jokes why not Noah all right we going to look at the room real quick yeah let's go ahead and go to the JV cam oh they're waving yeah there's everyone there's there's our favorite co-host Tristan also know was Tristan Drizzy yeah there's Sam Brody Jordan uh we're not really good at some names so Le the match is started this Rob has to throw himself off two times so SD and I think little Mech has this in the bag what do you think Noah it doesn't uh Tristan has problems fighting little uh Rob not really it's uh King K rule he has problems with because King K rule can just carry off stage so this should be a pretty quick match with one stock to take yep it looks like they taunted so they're ready to go Tristan unfortunately Falls in got the first hit yeah Tristan is there is the counter see that's what I thought I saw come out but Tristan's finally getting in the groove oh Tristan was going for forward smash got punished for it oh yeah good Think About Little Mac um he just do a lot of damage so I wonder if he's just building up for his KO punch honestly looks like Little Mac has to watch out for that Rob side B yeah I think he's just building up for his KO meter honestly that's that'd be good tactic cuz yeah we would try to uh teach Jaden not to or the the gone yeah trying to teach K uh trzy not to use it instantly oh and he air Dodges down yeah little Max's worst enemy gravity so it's really unfortunate oh he nearly gots the be neutral B revers oh Rob hit the side B and then Rob is off the stage trying to get back on yeah he is really great just getting away from him just in case he miss inputs Rob is at kill per for Little Mac so I think any smash most smash attacks will kill probably uh absolutely all of them will especially Final Destination which is a medium stage weight oh he gets the counter going for the side B misses it hits Rob out of the air Rob is now on the ledge oh Tristan was hoping to read him but he didn't get the read correctly but the forward smash yeah let's go that was that was a good game yeah so we go to wait to see who they uh pick next little Ma's next opponent do you know how I'm my what round they're on uh I actually do not it's like the only problem I have right now all right while we're doing that though let me go ahead and read some sponsors while I'm at it Wells Community Foundation a special things to Wells Community Foundation without them the stream just wouldn't be possible you would't hear our lovely voices and see our lovely faces or watch this game entirely so thanks to them Wells Community not Wells Wells County Foundation sorry and auction I have problems with this one it's just the a that gets me auction it do you have a fa favorite nonprofit that could use an awesome fundraising idea auction it is an online and inperson platform that can use a non can help you use your nonprofit host a great charity event find more at auction it that is the auction.io that is auction.io a Bowser versus little Max so that's going to be fun little Max got to jump off the stage once per tournament rules yep looks like they're ready now yeah I could see Little Mac actually winning this cuz yeah Bowser is also a heavy hitter but litt's just gone I think I think Bowser grab's going to be a tough one yeah he's going to try to SD that is going to be very toxic he's going to just try to get down his two lives by throwing away his life yeah so that's the kamakazi strategy oh gets the Parry righty so it looks like we're actually on our third but this is their fourth so I don't know why they would decid to be like that near Edge Tristan does get the up smash though makes it even Fox but he is behind 51 percentage oh but he does have his KO punch probably want to get a little bit of damage on him what is up with that KO punch it's going away instantly yeah you take damage the KO punch goes away yeah but it's over a certain amount of damage so unless he's like beating that threshold maybe isn't it it's like 20 I think it's like 20% 30 honestly cuz little Max medium weight I know certainly doesn't last as long as o triy does go down though it's a one one and two stocks but this is their fourth four fourth person and we're on the third so so we're still on the lead yep let's hope uh but little M can take another stock honestly it' be pretty tragic if the uh Bowser SD right here yeah if I was that little mac I honestly would have baited it cuz uh at very low percentage you can control where that goes as the guy being grabbed oh Bowser goes for the grab he's getting close the kill percent with the grab now this is exactly why Tristan has problem with King K rule as well he just can't get up and do a lot of damage see there is he oh he missed the KO yep and he gets and he gets hit with the down yeah yeah but yeah it's all good we're up one stot both teams are on their final player yeah all righty time for some dad jokes what's brown and sticky a stick that's a that's a funny one fine what do you call a sad cup of coffee depresso oh Mr Know It All Over Here look like I'm not looking this up oh it's King K Ru versus Bowser oh no wait never mind not oh no I I thought it was King cave Ru just low back for some reason but this is Sam Sam is very well at just ranging out with a very heavyweight character it's very weird yeah with King K rules projectiles and uh reflector it's pretty good Bowser's GNA get the first few hits and a grab yeah I want I don't think JV knows that you could direct where that goes get Shield broken what looks like Bowser is going to get an early stock yeah that is insane the spower is doing really good really he's doing phenomenally let's hope our uh King K Ru can catch up he is going to catch up there's no a there for butts he will it's that simple if he doesn't this Bowser's air dodging uh right off the right off the really yeah it's like a really uh probably try air Dodge yeah probably trying to get back on Sage real quick well King K roll got a stock so Bowser is on his last one Bowser gets a grab King K ru's uh getting up there but King K Ru can last a little bit longer since King K rolls a heavyweight yeah but so is Bowser though it's going to take a lot of percentage to kill either one of them oh Bowser got another stock yeah sorry for cough guys oh but it gets a dash attack that's it's so weird seeing these two heavyweights just Dash hits together it's yeah Bowser's gonna get some damage on uh K rule K rule look pretty close King K rolls behind oh Bowser Bowser finishes it I think the other team got the first first game right yeah we're on to the second one on the second game so it is 1 zero right now the other team is at one we're at zero unfortunately it's not the best to three so we can tie yeah we can tie it's exactly what we're hoping for a tie I think Jordan would be great against that Bowser he loves using his neutral be yeah off stage and Jordan loves knows how to recover off stage I wonder about they're going to counter pick it looks like they're going to counter pick Battlefield or small I think Final Destination would work for him a lot better uh actually no I lied I think I think Battlefield would work better if uh the people they play yeah uh actually I lied Pokemon St to would they get the king K rule out there first aren't battle small Battlefield in Pokemon Stadium 2o practically the same except for um boundary sizes yeah it's B about it uh Pokemon sa 2 is a little bit smaller so oh it's why if you get King K Ru out there get some heavy hits and then go it w be big problem get some map control with that yeah it's why probably the best but I can't take our picture seriously that we see over here oh the player info yeah it's every time look at it it's like three you're looking at four different people with four different Lifestyles so all looks like we're going to start soon yeah we're just waiting for them counterpick characters which we're playing param mythra very good pay to win character oh also versus kazuya yeah it's pay to win right here who paid more both DLC characters on the battlefield right now yeah I when pyro mither came out and the fan base was lit about it about undisclosed reasons but is going to get the first hit Kazi is going to get the down air they're upping an awful lot Kazi is a pretty heavy hitter oh yeah that seems like the opposing JV team's whole strategy yeah yeah another thing about Kazi is once he gets to 100% he uh he gets like enraged and he does uh it's called s's gate I believe the mve was called he just choke slams them doesn't it also boost your uh damage uh back it's only boosts that one move that's like the whole purpose of it the upbe no the down be oh he just choke slams them it basically enrages that move now El is Le they switched the pyra to do a kill option here pyro has some pretty uh good kill options oh yeah definitely heavy hitter unlike Mithra which is basically get in there do a lot of Chip damage for pyra so yep it's the main Str pyra's gonna get the first stock on this kazia yeah but we've seen from our game always getting the first stock doesn't mean you're going yeah in the bag it can go either way at this point still try to go for neutral be but this is the wrong way kazia upes K's going to miss a bunch of attacks so was our pirate mythra o get the stage [ __ ] that's now it's even yeah that's unfortunate like we said earlier we can go both ways pretty fast yeah looks like they want this Mithra to do CH chip damage but it's not not working out for him oh there he goes but doesn't do a lot for him she's not really stage camping like she should with pyro but yeah she does hit the neutri be oh there it is now all she really has to do is hope that she doesn't yep kazio is off the stage yeah that's he's got his uh Heaven's Gate or whatever you call the Travis yeah oh Pyro's gonna get the stock so that means no Heaven's Gate for him those a Heaven's Gate just not his move for him ooh gets a neutr he rolls into it oh goodness I acally K the setup that's horrible looks like kazio is not going to be able to get to this onto this stage pretty well seems like uh no as he finally realized what the Kazi was doing and then basically he's like yeah you're not get away with it anymore kazio still can't touch the stage yeah I would say this would be a great time to switch to Pyro oh gets stunned but he misses the jab oh Izzy gets the UPS bigy that's there we go that was great izy won the match with two stocks up yeah so hey so you have the little handheld thing can you shut the door for us yeah I completely forgot to do that so looks like we're in the the lead so far sorry I'm looking at the actual map information small Battlefield right yes all right Pokemon S 2 should be somewhere over here it's it's right above small Battlefield is it really yeah yeah small Battlefield is a little bit smaller it looks like but Pokemon Stadium 2 has smaller blast zones yeah oh a communication error happened I don't know if I should say that or not yeah probably not in the meanwhile let's re some dad jokes it's my greatest Pastime reading dad jokes for the viewers at home well they need to laugh somehow I don't think they're getting a lot of laughs from watching a f game I would it no well you never know people could enjoy watching video games daughters and sons play yeah there's difference between watching them and finding it funny true so why not just bring a little joy to this thing all righty what goes up and down but doesn't move it's more of riddle what is it Travis stairs oh that's a funny one I said it's not a joke it's more of a riddle it's still a dad joke yeah uh like Noah said we're having a communication there between both teams so technical difficulties why did the cookie go to the hospital why because he felt crumbled no it's crummy crummy yeah it works it works both way it's okay I can't read too well you want to read them sure let's find some best ones make sure they're PG-13 what do you get when you cross a fish in an elephant what swimming trunks that was pretty good it is a funny one what did the worker at the rubber band Factory say when he was fired what oh snap that got to hurt oh why can't a nose be 12 in Long why because then it would be a foot I'm pretty sure I've read that one before in stream oh but could you imagine having a foot for a nose that'd be horrible I just smell my feet every day barely stand it for two hours oh it's a mirror match that's going to be very oh very complicated so it looks like we have they're both the same skin they're both yeah it's it's going to be very hard to tell who's who this is breaking all continuity l so if I'm not mistaken they're both from uh Xenoblade 2 Xenoblade Chronicles yeah just T I don't know what that is never played it what to be fair I either I played the first one I was it it's where sh's from yeah look they both have the same exact strategy just one's pyro one's mythra it's only different friends looks like Izzy hasn't been hit at all yet 0 to 88% that's pretty big gap yeah but like we said on other things you always just turn around in the moment get some weird combos going and now they switched to Myra looks like they learn the Strat too we going to see a lot I hope to see a lot of clashes oh they both they're both P now yep side yep one good upb or one good forward smash should kill yep there it goes we go Izzy got the first stock it's even now actually technically yellow team got the first stock well jumping off the map doesn't count well technically but just like I technically thre stocked that one person a long time ago you did three stock that person not really but he did I mean I last week I thre stocked somebody you thre stocked somebody too it was insane but we're talking about this week any reason that we stuck in the past the past is just a whirling warpool well you can improve when you look at the past yes but that's looking at the past not being stuck in the past see what I'm saying yeah now no more Chinese philosophy time for the game oh the opposing team got an up be on Izzy so that's yeah I would also keep pyro right here because pyro seems to be yeah it's the killing of no it's just the the one pyro is the one does the most killing options yeah it's a mere match it's p also slower though yeah why she does more damage it's so weird just looking at this cuz I can't tell if they're pyro mythra or they're who's who tell by the sword I know I think you tell by the sword usually outfit but it doesn't look like it it's one to one now yep you the same as like stop looks like the opposing team is going to stay pyra but give metha so ooh it's that big damage oh sadly she missed the Ed the jump on the stage yeah so now we're both on the second player on team but they're on uh one stock and we should be at three stock so so we're in the lead right now yeah I wonder who I think Jordan's going to probably play Nest sh to hit that back yeah that'd be a good pick I wouldn't know because I can't really see it do you want to read off some dad jokes where we're at it how do rabbits travel how by hairplanes why did the golfer bring two pairs of pants why just in case you get a hole in one oh that's the funny one oh y it's the Jord Jordan's on Nest versus this pyom mythra pyr mythra's on one stock so she have to jump off twice yeah oh it's so weird sitting in this chair this a new chair so a new chair yeah it's a new chair hav't got sit in these chairs yet yeah yes these are the fancy chairs you know get these chairs we get the the blue ones or the red and black ones I think I like the blue ones just office anyways back to the match looks like Jordan's going against him uh Jordan got 22% on himself and the 27 against the opponent look like we have Mithra Now versus NES yeah that could to be the greatest match up because they're both pretty fast characters yeah but Jordan can absorb her upy so yeah the healing options and I think uh ness's reflector can hit that back absorb the sword no but she can hit he can hit that back yeah he could hit that back which is insane does like like Jordan's able to do it and I have no idea why we're not able to see them on the stream but pyro got a stock on Jordan there yep that up oh Jordan I'm still why did he have invincibility frames is that because he just spawned in cuz he shielded did he Shield he was shielding so that means he had a Parry at just the right time I don't can you hear the game audio I cannot put the headset on oh no I this the headset is just communicate with the people that's actually controlling the stream oh I'm sure we could tell he had game audio I wish I had game audio that I could actually use everything by SES it'd be a lot easier yeah yeah but good thing it wasn't cuz all I would hear from Kirby is uh B uh B B Forward Air yeah some of the audios could get annoying and redundant yeah just like with pyro mythra using side P or links uh is it neutral b or upb uh it's I think it's upb neutral B is also pretty annoying too cuz it's just hearing a arrow fly by yeah excuse me I lay back a little bit I actually like this Stu uh you don't have the luxury do you nope I don't uh to be young again we're waiting on the next person yeah it doesn't say who we were facing against for some reason but the school yeah the school we're fighting uh BDU it's the same team the J Varsity fought oh all right so it's NES and Little Mac Jordan's got a jump off once he's going that way so he thw that middle that was a bit confusing he threw him for a loop never let your opponent know your next move yeah exactly why I don't know my next move Jordan is GNA get that combo there yep little string combo oh Jordan missed the grab so this L Mac is just wanted to hit a smash tag yeah this move after move I don't know how Jordan's not trying to pun punish this this is oh come on that was a close close one yeah come on Jordan you can yeah there he goes but he does not know how this upbeat works oh he tries to give him the Jordan special but oh with the crit Jordan almost gets pushed out of the stage but close misses the ledge barely yeah I don't know why it does that there's no ual reason why it misses ledge like that it's a pretty annoying thing that happens often oh oh hits him with the Jordan special that that upbeat can do some really good things on N yeah little me super armor is going to make this very difficult super armor have we explained super armor before uh I don't think actually we have that's actually the first time super armor is uh normally during a smash attack and it allows the um how much resistance you have to a certain set of moves yeah when you have super armor any most moves will not knock you out of your uh smash attack but you'll take the percent damage anyways but you can still uh complete your move and it can do some pretty crazy things yeah while you explain that Jordan got the stock of the Little Mac by a pulse move so it's pretty fun but doesn't like Jordan can get back all Jordan really has to do is thr little SM back off stage and he wouldn't be able to deal with it oh oh is he able to get uh little Max got KO it's very deadly so Jordan's got to watch out for that I think he's going to try to run down the time and not try to risk to give enough damage oh Jordan got the grab yeah he went back throw he gets the pul yeah Jordan that little mat gave Jordan a rough time yeah yeah actually only got one stock and Jordan taking three I think Jordan really pulled it off so yeah yeah that was a very risky move he just did because that was a lot of flag he would had to deal with so he just said send it I believe the other team is on their fourth person now and we're on our third or second third or second I I can't remember yeah we're on we're on a second they're on the fourth second yeah we're pretty good right now we're just yeah we're just too good but the other the opposing team is also pretty good they've been putting up a fight for uh JB team oh yeah they've been the whole school is putting up a fight oh yeah like you know I said during the interview actually one of the hardest schools we faced against this year yeah if I'm not mistaken they were actually pretty close to going State too I didn't keep track on uh what team went to state after we uh lost last year yeah um they were close they didn't go to state though Jordan's hitting these fire PK fires Jordan's got to be careful because he has one stock so yeah but see what I would do if I was like that I would just say screw it and give that Bowser and SD that he want so badly yeah but Jordan is playing a PK Fire like an online Nest right now like they picked Bower to play last both both rounds yeah I'm not seeing a lot of Jordan gameplay that I usually see he's using that up a l yeah he was Bowser down air yeah Jordan was hoping to get a uh Jordan special but he wasn't able to pull it off I think link would be able to good match up against Bowser yeah do a lot of chit damage hopefully get two or three stocks Tristan's already played though I think not in this match I think he has played this round round right no it was pirate and that was oh turn are second so it's Tristan and yeah if Tristan plays a link that'll be pretty good yeah oh it looks Sam Sam his Rob would also be pretty good space him out get a few Texs in Ward will be uh King K and uh Bowser Bowser again like the last round yeah that would be very very just it looks like yeah he was seing the Rob nope you think in yeah he's sending through a roller coaster looks like he's going on the King rule know what that's actually very smart cuz that's where how he's guaranteed at least two stops he's swapping again I think he this a very contr uh Sam can't make up his mind I wouldn't be able to if they just completely wipe down our team last but if you want King Ru he basically had a guarantee two stocks and send Tristan in yeah so and uh Sam probably learned from the last match and what he had to do to yeah but looks like Sam just wants to give space and get some string combos which for the folks at home string combos are basically combos they can break out of unless you don't know how to break out of it so you can normally break out of it with the air dodging air Dodge yeah yeah see sometimes a jump if if you still have one and if there's enough lag between the moves between the moves and you jump high enough oh Sam sadly that was that super armor we were telling guys about looks like Bowser got the grab yeah you know I would love to do I would love to go on JV and play some Gand dorf against his Bowser give him a taste of his own medicine but then again I would love to go against Rob with a annoying projectile spammer AKA Samus how's is getting up there in percent o yeah Sam Sam got the first stock on this this round he knows exactly what he has to do he's locked in Bowser retaliated and got the second one now it's 22 it's like Bowser was stuck on the I call it a drel I don't know why Dr like a top it is definitely a top but I call it a drel it is near the Hanukkah so is it hanukkah's Inc right Hanukkah is near uh one of the days of Hanukkah is on Christmas so oh 12 days of Hanukkah oh Bowser gets to grab it's probably one of the most deadly things about grab uh Bowser yeah is his command grab especially in a mediumweight or lightweight characters oh yeah but Sam also gets a grab but not as deadly unless he did a Down grab down throw grab takes him from the ground and then oh Bowser stuck in that uh top yeah seems to be his moral enemy right now Bowser's going to try to ledge guard it fails Bowser is at kill percent right now oh but so is uh Rob right now as well that back throw didn't kill oh he CH good for forward smash Bowser is dangerously High percents oh there's that kill option oh and it's off State even again that was man that B's gotten two Shield breaks right yeah yeah on Jordan and on this Rob but Rob doing a pretty good ledge guarding and he SP that ties up yeah that match so the that's wonderful that is pretty good they uh and they 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good evening welcome to Greenfield Public School school committee meeting it's Wednesday November 8 2023 6 PM we are at the johnon community center 35 Pleasant Street per the open meeting law any member of the public may make an audio or video recording of this meeting and just a reminder we do have a slightly new policy that if the meeting extends Beyond 8:00 p.m.
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flag United States and to the repic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all I I'd like to make a motion to change the order of the meeting agenda to allow for the first opportunity of public comment to occur before the PT report um and the reason why I'm requesting this is because I'd like to uh give our first select woman an opportunity to come up to the podium before she has to run to a meeting she has a presentation for our output and order that members okay motion's been made to change the order of our agenda today do I have a second so move second John pa uh any questions or discussion before we proceed to a vote caring none I'll call for the vote all those in favor of changing the agenda as proposed please indicate by saying I move any opposed any extensions motion passes the agenda has been changed thank you so uh we come to our first opportunity for visitors public comment um if you could please state your name for the record PA 27 Connecticut first the town um I thank you for this opportunity to amend the meeting to because I have to run to my B meeting um there are three members that are stepping down tonight this is their last meeting and just wanted to kind of recognize them and thank them for their service um I'm going to start with Lynette you've been on the board for six years these are CER certificates of appreciation that they're homemade I made them it's not something you buy office office stap website I made them so artistic ability is not the best but it's it comes from the heart with appreciation for your service so if you want to come on know if your husband did the graphics would have been perfect 12 years that was my understanding times of a child PCS um but thank you once again for your service that's dedication for everybody that's on the board um you know you're volunteers it's time it's dedication and we appreciate it so if you'd like to come up I don't know how artistic you are but bear with my ability [Applause] soow thank you make me feel good thank you Chris we saved the best for last the chair we all the best you are all best that is true but as the head of of the board you know you kind of guide how things sort of flow and that's a dedication and of responsibility I know um you take The Good the Bad and the Ugly and but you you muddle through and you make it over so thank you for your 12 years I believe 14 14 gave wrong number it's I'll have words with her later I'll be at my meeting but if you come and certificate so for your 14 years so I did go by 14 and a half isn't it 14 and a half 14 so thank you thank you thank youate thank you thank you everybody your service and your dedication to the children and the town it's appreciated it's it's an important important job so uh enjoy the rest of your meeting I know enjoying mine so have a good night good you good night thank you right we continue with uh further opportunity for public comment I see we have at least one so I'll note the usual generals we'll ask you to come to the podium uh state your name for the record ask you to limit your comments to 3 minutes and I reserve the right to limit uh discussion on any particular topic to uh 15 we've never got I I also came tonight to thank the three departing members U for their service to the town um that do I don't know that well but the and uh Chris for your service particularly uh these have been a tumultuous 12 years with the pandemic uh remote learning and uh coming back together to rebuild the schools um when I served in this board 14 years ago and I resigned to join the 's board uh someone said who should replace uh me and it was suggested that Chris P and I put his name forward and the head of the Democratic town committee at that time said is he even a Democrat and I said I don't know he's very qualified and uh so uh thank you for your service andette as well and also uh congratulations to uh the new members of the board and the recent election uh and I'm sure you'll all be in good hands so thanks so much thank you did I sayling from you did not I'll have words with you later you have a lot of words thank you so I was actually um prepared to make these statements after the PTO report so kind of use a football term with an audible here so with me Melissa 191 Ro I you guys be very proud of these um football team consists of 11 that's half of the team of boys from Beth fourth and fifth graders n 10 they won champ team have made this part we going to regs the boys are if you drove by the field C right now otherwise he'd be here wearing this um but I do want to um at the game I prior to the game I reached out to M and Mrs bir um to let them know that the boys were playing and they showed up for these boys they were at that game as well as three teachers Mrs dear M Mr G and Mrs he that meant the world to those boys that meant the world to parents to see the support from their Community while they played their hearts out I emailed them support but I wanted to publicly acknowledge in this forum thank you for coming out to support our boys not just my boy bethan boys orange boys Bri Bo and then them go thank you anyone else wish to address the board here at our first public okay hearing none will move on there will be another opportunity for visitors public comment at the end of our agenda we return to our usual order with the PTO report could you please state your name and of the p and like I just said ith grader and um class so of 63 we were truly impressed with all the creativity of the home so thank you everybody for participating in that um our P sale is over um we are able to donate a total of 31 Li pies this year 12 are being donated to school uh 10 are being donated to um Beth seniors and nine are being donated to the nagat edal Outreach Network for free Thanksgiving Community din so thank you to everybody who purchased pies and donated pies um the pi distribution is scheduled for November 21st we're still working out the logistics of how that's going to work so once we get that all nailed down we'll be mailing out um how to pick up Pi if you purchase uh other thing that just ended was the book fair um we did record breaking sales um I'm still doing the financials but it was every year we it I just want to thank everybody from all volunteers the teachers our set up um our parents who work the fair who broke down the fair is amazing um and because of gener the generosity of all the parents um every teacher that U made a wish list we were able to fulfill and purchase all the books that the teachers have made in wish L for so thank you very much for that um and also during uh book fair week was also future conferences we were able for teachers on their late night conferences so thank you to everybody who donated um the desserts Don money what we have going forward is on November 14th we are hosting a free internet uh safety webinar for children well for parents saf their children uh if you're interested in doing that um log on to our PT board we're asking for you to register about 24 hours before the event Zoom link so you can participate in that our next meeting uh is next Thursday at 6 o' here in the library we do have light refreshments and child care available and um we're getting ready to start our snowflake shop which is going to be in December we are asking for donations of um wrapping paper holiday wrapping paper holiday gift bags my understanding is that there's a box set up in the main office to get those Collections and we'll take that because um make their purchases we want to be able to wrap them to help keep help the kids keep those presents PR purchas that um picture retake day is going to be November 28th and after the busy couple months we've had this actually seems like not a lot so we're all just kind of Tak a rebreather and resetting so thank you everybody for your support thank you thank you and thank you for everything you do for this right we move on to our presentation of a report on student achievement Mr Reed Swale and other BCS staff thank you for being here today probably it's really bright walk every stff sorry it's big screen all right so um we're going to go through uh a bunch of data as as we typically do every um every fall we go through um we go through our results from the smarter balance assessment um we're going to go through some of that I want to share this with a caveat that this is um this is always a chance for us to be able to share that with you but it's really a chance for us to be able to share the shine and the hard work um that the teachers are doing on behalf of the kids on behalf of the community um and so every time you see a graph it's really representing and I think it's really important to think about it's really representing kids and it's representing their hard work and it's representing their learning and the hard work of the teachers that got them there so um all right so uh to just kind of set the stage for previously um we used to have uh the Connecticut Mastery test I was a kid of the first gen Connecticut Mastery test I mean it was Norm reference data right so it was always it was all the way you would get a percentile Rank and so you were a kid in third or fourth grade and you'd be told wow you're doing great you're in the 90th percentile or you're not doing so great you're in the fifth percentile and it really was sort of gut-wrenching for kids to kind of get that and think like I'm not doing good enough and so um what they did as we shifted was to now what we have for the smarter balance which is Criterion reference that the state sets an expectation if the kids meet that expectation then they're saying to have met that expectation at a three or going beyond that expectation at a four um and it really kind of gets away from that idea that if you're Norm referencing somebody's always going to be in the first percentile no matter how good the entire state of Connecticut does right um so uh the other thing that's really beneficial for um the work that we're doing on smarter balance is that it happens uh year over um and the state sets growth targets for every child and so we're able to be able to take a look and get that growth data as well so the first thing that we're going to look at is achievement data so when we talk about Smarter Balance scores this is what you think of you think of the achievement data how well did kids do right and so for the state they set an expectation for all third fourth fifth sixth seventh and eth we only go up to sixth um for all those students um and that's what we think of when you see the smarter balance scores that are reported out were given out through Ed site from the state what you want to think is did they get a high enough score to meet St meet expectations and so the state measures that at being at a level three or a level four the kids get a raw score but it comes out as either a level one two three or four and so when we say meeting that expectation it's a level three or four right and so um this is our um math achievement scores so it's taking a look at the last two years prior to the pandemic you'll notice there's no data in 2020 we didn't take smarter balance in 2020 um and then the state didn't report out for 2021 in the typical way that they do um so that's why the state data isn't there um what we'll see is that um as we're going longitudinally across um from 2018 up to 2023 we've got a slightly upward trend for our um for our math data and you'll notice that the trend across the state is actually losing ground pre pandemic um and so this is one of those things that we've been talking about where a lot of districts are trying to figure out how do we get back to we're trying to think about how we're continuing on so when we look at it this is a breakdown um by grade so our grade three four um five and six scores so the blue um is the percentage that are meeting expectations uh and the yellow is the percent that are approaching or not met um what we've seen both last year and this year is that we have that drop off from fourth to fifth um but what we are seeing is positive Trends so if you look at um our grade three data in 22 you'll see that our grade four data has gone up 5 percentile points right when we go um from our grade five to our grade six they picked up um they picked up 15 perenti of points the challenge that we have is those students going grade four to grade five and we'll talk about some of that in terms of our Reflections on the data and our next steps that we're going to be taking all right everybody I've got the ELA um so just taking a look at our Ela data our whole scho um data over the past um 5 six years what you'll notice is that we are holding strong um we're at 72% meeting expectations while the state is um trending downwards going down about 6% um so we again as M Reed said we're thinking about how we can take our school further and grow those scores even more um while people in the state are focusing on that learning loss so just taking a look at by grade so this is just a really great way to look at the cohorts so if you take a look at fourth grade and then take a look at fifth grade uh I'm sorry third grade to fourth grade the following year so third grade went from 73% to 82% the following year um and then taking a look at that fifth grade cohort to sixth grade the following year 66% to 67% so they're holding strong that sixth grade while it looks like it got it went down if you follow the cohorts they're just Holdings wrong they're staying the same and then taking a look at our ngss achievement score so we're really proud of our success the reasons why you might see those numbers fluctuate is it's a different cohort every single year so it's only tested in fifth and eighth grade um but we're really proud of these scores um really great scores coming out of um fifth grade every single year using our amplify science curriculum and one of the things to consider when we look at that science data is it's a small Cort right in any case so it's always looking out of a sample size your our n size is 55 you know so three kids could have an off day and we look terrible or they have the greatest day of their lives and we look broken so when we look at some of these things and that gets to when we talk about subgroups right we're going to take a look at some subgroup comparisons and for us as a small District there's lots of advantages right we know everybody we we can drill down to specific students very easily one of the challenges is that our sample sizes are really small so sometimes that can be misleading for our dating um so uh when we look at our school right we can really look deeper um there's several different ways that the State um extrapolates out our data for us into different subgroups one of them is uh a group called our high needs um and that's uh that's a designation created by the state um in that high need subgroup uh is students who are um who are receiving English language learner um Services students who are receiving special education programming or um students who are deemed low socioeconomic status um those are students who qualify for free or reduced uh price cions um the other things that we can look at are um subgroups like race and ethnicity and gender for further information um one of the challenges is that we get really small sample sizes when we drill down for specificity um and so what we can look at is that we want to ensure that we're being able to report out responsibly but we don't want to be able to we don't want to be reporting out and then compromising the confidentiality of children we only have three students who might fit one particular category which we report out on their on their scores we're reporting out their scores um so we want to really mindful on that so um one of the categories um we combine um students uh who are considered black or African-American Native American Alaskan native and two or more races have been combined into uh a category of um other unra and ethnicity to ensure that we're not reaching confidentiality for those students so this is our um this is our math achievement by race and ethnicity um one thing to notice when we look at our students uh who um who are in the category of Hispanic um and Latino um we have been able now that um that group has a larger sample size um of the 19 students who are um considered in that section we have 10 of those 19 students are receiving um English language learner Services um and not as an excuse but to think about the fact that language acquisition is approximately a sevene um a seven-year Endeavor and so if those students are receiving that service it's something for us to consider when we look at that data and think about what are the ways in which we can support these students to help and grow and do better uh this is uh Ela achievement results by race and ethnicity um this is our uh math achievement by gender um and then um our Ela achievement by gender and then this is our math achievement um for our uh High needs subgroup and our non- high needs subgroup and so um again this is one of those where we see a significant disparity and so we're really trying to think about what can we do to support those students who are falling into that high needs category doing the best that we can for those students to help them achieve with their non High needs views that's our pla for subgroups right growth data okay stay with me everybody because growth data gets a little confusing for me all right so first thing we're going to do is growth rate so the state what what they do is they take each student and they take their sumita of score so that's their SBA score and they set a target for each student so if they reach that Target then they are counted into our growth rate so that's going to be the dark green on the uh graph there so if they meet that Target they're included our growth rate and that's that's our dark rate all right then we have percentage of Target grow this is going to be your light green on the graph so this basically means it's the average percentage of how much growth was achieved so they set that growth Target for every kid and then how much did they achieve of that growth Target so if even if they didn't make it they're still going to tell you oh they've made 75% of the way or 80% of the way okay so some considerations to think about so for percentage of Target growth averages it's it should be noted that the state of Connecticut caps our growth at 110% so it will not include those kids if they made more than 100 110% growth so they cap us there so it means when we have a student with a lot of growth that growth is truncated at 110% which eliminates outliers but also isn't a full picture of our growth so just some other data for you in ela we had 70 out of 161 students um with 110% growth or more um so and then we had 44 students with an actual growth percentage over 150% and a Max of 410 per.
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Mr grippo here Mr White here M Rosenberg here Mr chairman you have a quorum thank you I'll rise for the pledge I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all a Special Touch for at home viewers de Devon did the Pledge just so you know excellent my internet is terrible can anyone hear me yeah yeah we can hear you okay pull up the agenda Adam and yeah please okay uh so I'll present on screen the agenda so everybody can see where we are uh for today can you guys see that okay yes can you increase it just slightly Jeff yeah oh you know what um before we We Begin uh firstly Jeff is there anyone from the audience who wanted to uh add any comment for this evening no I'm sorry I skipped over that part P up the agenda okay no problem um secondly um that second that policy that uh Tony sent um so um Sam and Tim uh uh Tony sent over a policy that he thought that we should look at and I was wondering ing if you'd you'd consider add adding it to the agenda for this evening as part of our uh discussion um and I can't like my computer's not working um except for my voice I guess um for was it Jeff was it uh an Ethics yes bylaw board code of conduct um I can stop I'll add it on Jeff I'll add it on Jeff while you guys get started uh okay um but you know just as a protocol the the or the committee has to amend the agenda if you're okay with that yeah it's I'm fine with it I mean I haven't seen it but fine with discussing it or looking at it yeah it's just conversation we couldn't uh I guess you we wouldn't really be taking action on it but it's just a review of the policy um it's uh VI number 9271 called code of ethics I can share that on the screen if you want to take a very quick look here so this is right if you guys or obviously anybody else who might be watching wanted to ever look up our policies bylaws Etc if you go to the treer public schools website under Board of Ed they'll say online policy manual and you know when you log on you'll see the different categories or you can do the search up here um but this is the policy itself that um was just proposed to take a look at um so well I'll I'll make the motion then I'll just ask the question um so um move that uh we add policy n or bylaw [Music] 9271 yes to item number four of the agenda for discussion is there a second Sam is that a is that a is that a second okay all right so um all right so we're in discussion um so uh so Jeff do we do we have an Ethics policy I would think that we would but it's not a policy it's only bylaws for code of conducts for the code of conduct for the board because that's what Tony reference email okay when did he send the email he just sent it to Adam and I about an hour ago maybe like an hour ago yeah okay that's why yeah so I was like it wasn't on the agenda so I was like well we can I can put it up to you guys to add it to the agenda if you don't want it to then we don't have to you know can I just can I just request we put it at the end of the agenda and we see how long we've been here first that that's fair enough yeah okay we'll move it to um so I'll uh amend my motion to move it is number four you're good Adam okay um I present back to the agenda again you'll see where Carol added it here under discussion at the very end of the oh perfect okay all right so then um is there any other comment on the motion seeing none um all in favor two three all right unanimous fantastic all right Jeff move on okay all right so um this first one is really pretty straightforward following up on the discussion you know what I'm going to sharing a tab I'm going to share the screen so when my popups come up you'll be able to see what they are so can you see the agenda okay yes okay so the first uh I was 21 32 uh if you recall we changed Marlene's title to assistant superintendent so this uh change only strikes for instructional services from the from the language in here um the only thing that I would me amend on top of that is down here oh I do have editorial rights where it says because I think everything up here uh is straightforward and it's only that one um redaction but down here says the Board of Education will act upon recommendation of the superintendent of schools with regard to hiring of an assistant superintendent in carrying out his or her duties the assistant superintendent shall be guided by the following regulations so back in April 2020 it was supposed to be assistant superintendent but I think for the point of clarity because it says assistant superintendent here and Chief Operating Officer here I would say you know s recommendation of the superintend of schools with the regard to hiring of uh executive level central office leadership that way it covers Chief Operating Officer and assistant superintendent does that does that make more sense does to me does that have a question is that um that's a question okay so I guess at this point the only two um positions that you would basically Define as executive would be the COO and now the assistant super so this does this then incorporate any future positions that you might develop that our executive well if you develop another position in central office leadership that's outside of the um bargaining unit I would have to go through Personnel committee and we'd have to create that and then we could add that position into this policy so we'd have to amend this policy yeah we're creating a new position yes but the board policy already requires you know if we're creating a new position that needs board approval anyway all right so the only two positions really in executive currently are those two the other I mean didn't you just create a position for everything else is in the bargaining unit in the okay cap bargaining unit thank you sure do we want to go on and try and um you know do everything at the end I think that's what we've typically done or we can do one by one if you prefer yeah um let's let's just keep going for now okay so if there are any more questions on that one I want to um welcome our two handsome distinguished guests with us this evening uh our director of Transportation Luther Miller and Vin massana Chief Operating officers no stranger to the program um as we're going to try and walk through some questions uh that we had about the transportation policy if you recall back in September I believe it was uh maybe even less spring I don't know time's kind of blooding but we had a a really good conversation about the transportation policy and we said at that time we want to you know kind of come back and revisit these things and so uh I you know with Adam's blessing invited these guys back to try and walk through uh the policy on Transportation so that policy is 3541 School District Operations Transportation policy um and I'm just going to scroll through here to the places yeah why you doing that I think L needs to screw over a little bit that May of the picture so um I'll just add a little bit of commentary this this policy that um you know we have transportation it's a very very long policy and you know Luther and I have spent some time actually the last couple of years looking at the policy this policy guides a lot of our decision decision making around parent requests for either adding a stop or you know making accommodation to change a route and so this policy does come into play it's actually used quite a bit it is posted on the transportation page of our website um so there are a few things that we think are important that um we wanted to discuss and we do have several recommendations first one that Jeff is highlighting has to do with eligibility for school transportation and and this is longstanding you know the age of five to 21 uh 21 you know being really on the outside applies basically to special education students right um the age of five still holds true even though there's been a change to the kindergarten age but five through 22 actually is the years in which we need to provide transportation so we would suggest changing 21 to well I discussed to Luther earlier you unfortunately we kind of mixed up our schedules we had a couple of conflicts but the um we're just going to change this the school AED child uh or duly enrolled in U kindergarten board EDS early intervention um we I I think we need to change this to just be more uh broad because not only do we have kindergarten um the you know the transition probably Smart Start Smart Start are we providing transportation to Smart Start we are to the prek special right [Music] speci right we're not requiring we're not providing transportation to the transition program so what I would say here is that the student uh shall be a schoolage child uh duly enrolled in kindergarten board's early intervention Center um but not being a graduate of treasure High School whatever all the way through legally excluded from school so we're just changing to not be so prescriptive on the years but just School AG child this is a big adjustment Luther V you guys want to talk about this yeah so what essentially happened is um when we had half day kindergarten and it was all at at at for many years we would provide transportation to those kindergarten students when we went to full dayk several years ago now we have this disparity in our policy where a kindergarten student has a half mile first through six grade has one mile um we would like to change this to K through six shall be one mile um that would make this very consistent for families too some will have a kindergartener and a second grader you know we would theoretically have to have two different you know buses for those children and it creates a lot of conflict you know with families who have a kindergartener what we do we rarely go to one mile in elementary I mean our our typical walking distance is well below the one mile so we'd like to change the policy to read that kindergarten through grade six shall not be required to work further than a mile um you know the mile actually from some surveys we did is very competitive there we don't find anybody that does a half a mile and some districts are at a mile and a half starting in like grade five so we wouldn't want to change grades seven through 12 we'll leave those at a mile and a half you know many districts are at 2 miles at those grades we don't want to change that we think just making kindergarten a mile solves the The Dilemma that we have occasionally um with students that have multiple children in those grades I don't know if there's anything you wanted to add no that that sums it up the the issue is is where where we have a student who's whatever grade three who's considered a walker and then they have a sibling who's now a kindergartener Norton it's happened a number of times in the Avon Boulevard area um and they their kindergarten sibling is eligible for transportation but their third grade uh s is not so it creates a bit of a conflict are there any questions on that component before we keep going go ahead Sam and you I hope you don't mind me jumping in I know you're a little spotty on the connection go for it okay Sam so I just want to Luther in those situations what is what is the next step then so so we have what's called an available seat petition so a the let's excuse first grader who is in the considered a walker can apply for a seat on the bus and the bus will be at the mile Mark away from the school so now the kindergartener will be able to walk within that half mile to that bus stop but walking away from the school and the first grader will do the same if we have room on the bus there's not room on the bus we can't even offer that first grader a seat so again the kindergarten would have a bus but the first greater one but if [Music] we yeah but that's if they live within that area right within the walking area to begin with it's all within the walking area that's where the big conflict becomes I this doesn't H this doesn't happen often when we have this conflict but way we do the policy works against us and and we have a habit of working with families but the policy just doesn't make sense anymore because we don't have just kindergarten students not all yeah the the I guess the flip logical question is well what if we just reduce the walking distance to a half mile for all K1 or K2 you run into the same problem then though where siblings in the house have different rules for walking and it gets really confusing and frustrating for parents um the other thing that happens obviously if you extend the or you shorten the walking distance for all kids not just for one building you're doing it districtwide and you're substantially increasing the number of kids who were taking buses which substantially increases our costs and if we can even get drivers yeah I I don't think we need to do that sir well I'm just saying this is the flip side of the AR I'm not suggesting we do that I think the suggestion to go to a mile for all kids makes sense and the kids who go to Darcy we're not having you know the other reality is we're not going to have a kindergarten walk up that road to Darcy that's just not going to happen even if you live within a half mile so there are other parts that you'll see in the policy that kind of address that no NOS to Darcy we have a student that next to Darcy and they're still being picked up no one walks on water yeah that's why the safety portion of the policy would protect a student from walking you know a mile we have that touch on that in this conversation can you add a question also yeah um when do you uh first question when do you propos starting this I I assume it would not be like December 1st or whenever this would be next September yeah next yeah I mean the routes is set for this year Y and if anybody moves in where this situation comes up we we'll keep it under this policy so it's really the next school year in a in a typical year I mean have you looked at the total numbers of families that are affected by this say over the last three years even if you haven't looked at the actual numbers could you just I could give numbers but from my experience with with running into this it has happened more than you think where you know there's a kindergarten student with an older sibling and one is it's happened a number of times at Norton at the Long Hill Avon Boulevard area that's walking area yeah no I get it I understand then it it doesn't you halfway up that neighborhood all of a sudden kindergarteners are eligible but their siblings are not it's it's been a problem up in that area a couple of times it's been a little bit of a problem in Gulu I can think of twice I can't remember it all happening in Chapman and maybe once the Highland with d in dorton it has happened so so what we're talking about here is the first reading of three readings I mean we've mentioned this before I'm not sure where we stand in the I didn't see that on the agenda where do we stand in the process on this this is the first me the first okay so we discussed it a year ago but this is the first time we've got okay so I'll just say I mean I I'm generally open to it I also you know taking away Services is not something that people generally like um but it also only affects one year and so um I mean if it's not provided to people when they when they start kindergarten you know if it's their first child it may not have any impact on them if it's a second or third child going through then they're going to be they might think they're going to have the bus um but there's the other thing Tim that they don't like now that's when my kindergarten gets on the bus but I can't automatically put my second grader on the bus that's stupid well it's like book full they get very frustrated by that and you know you're filling out an available seat petition so um to just point out that it's not all you know a warm and fuzzy situation right now either so you know the less are the evils I appreciate what you're saying about you know if this is just the way it is from the beginning like it is in a lot of surrounding without further distance then it's it's not the hardship anymore especially if we maintain it through the rest of this year for people yeah there's there's no ex I mean it's expected but when the expectation has gone away and it's only a one-year thing it's for the kindergarten um I mean I'm I'm generally open to the idea I think I I'm always going to be happy to find things where administratively work can be simplified um yeah that's I think that's all I have for right now all right we we have more on this policy unless you guys want is there anything else on that component right then I'll pop up the other policy the rest of the policy we go through um this obviously would change if you know we change that the the bell time I I put some things in here that are kind of on my own the wish list that because of uh this when was this policy last updated did they say it was 2008 it was a while ago so I I see so you're gonna see some things that are kind of a wish list thing for me things that I talk about uh as it relat 200 2002 so it's been a while but I I I just I I see that our bell times are in conflict with our present day requirement specifically because of traffic patterns but that I wouldn't really consider that necessarily a policy change yeah I mean I just to just to generalize so the policy committee members know so you would add a few minutes more between correct the runs so that we don't are we don't to what the schedule times and I I think that's something that you know when we consolidate schools and we we have to look at that you know I think that's going to be a real consideration it'll be nice to take one run out of the equation um some flexibility there I think with the the upcoming opening of two new schools would be really the time to look at this in our then think the next section A yeah this is hazardous walking area and our walking room this was kind of what that the last meeting that we were talking about with the family from D um this kind of like that section that was impacted um so I would make just really one General recommendation here because this portion of the policy is very very detailed and and really not that helpful in some cases so one of that hazards Jeff if you could just scroll back up so item two there the geometry and character of The Walking area or walking R so what this is saying is you know what we're trying to identify what are the factors to determine if a walking area or walking route is hazardous so the geometry and character of The Walking area or walking route I would end it right there because those following factors are generally what creates is creates consternation so the existing of sidewalks generally parallel to the road or roads along the walking area the fact that we don't have a sidewalk doesn't make it hazardous and when you read that you might think that well not a sidewalk then it's hazardous and that is absolutely not the case in fact most of Chester does not have sidewalks and the routes are and the walking distances are safe they are not as it is so what I would do in this section is I would leave number two and eliminate ABC I would leave the first sentence in number three and eliminate the rest of that I would leave number four and eliminate ABCD beneath that and if you keep scrolling I want to point out that as you get to one more item okay so BCD so not that be c those are sub bullets B is the is the critical thing if the superintendent or designated determines that a walking area or walking route is hazardous Transportation accommodations we provideed so what we do when we when we set our routs at the beginning of the year which is you know done internally you know Luther takes the lead on doing that and we do base our routes generally on where they were previous year even though we we move stops so that essentially loate so we determine whether or not it's hazardous but if there's a question or an accommodation petition is filed we take that petition and we circulate it to the traffic division of the police department the public works department I get a copy who else do we include from we Public Works um PD public Public Works principles of each School Minnie gets gets it the manager gets one um so it's it's a pretty broad broad base of so we do have a process that encompasses you know a review that takes all those factors into consideration but it's just a level of detail that I don't think it's necessary it's really not that helpful for the most part um before or okay so before we go on to the next section Sam you have a question I guess my question becomes then what makes it hazardous because it doesn't sound like you have a clear definition of that which makes it subjective given this process that you just outlined yeah I mean there is there is subjectivity to it for sure and you know I I believe that we are very good judges of safety we we would never you know put a route or a child on a route or in a walking area where they it's not safe but the additional language creates umus you know conflict and confusion you know with parents that really want you know to have a stop you know at their home when you know the rout is is perfectly safe or the stop is perfectly safe and I think this speak a liit to question because it's it's a good question yeah like how do you know and I think in a lot of the cases is we were saying about um soliciting feedback from other people it's like the police help us with that decision as those public works like they're familiar with the road conditions in that area so I think we don't rely on ourselves or any one person to say that this is an appropriate walking location or not it's a collaborative effort with experts in the area between our transportation people and law enforcement and um and public work and we'll also we get an an accommodation petition uh we'll go out we'll actually look at the site I typically will take pictures it will get discussed um um and those pictures actually what we sent to the police public works so because of that sub it can be subjective um we know we do get get outside opinions on the uh on the request you know I I know they're not going to be this has to go to multiple readings so there's not a decision that's going to be made tonight anyway but I'm just thinking that it might be helpful to actually bring some examples to the next policy meeting so you know this is the process we follow um you know I wish there was a way that I could just adjust all that sublanguage so that it's uh it's black and white and the problem is it's never black and white you know there is subjectivity and it can be interpreted multiple ways so you know my my proposed solution is well take all those sub bullets out and I guess that creates a different problem doesn't necessarily solve the problem but you know maybe it's now it's too neous I understand I agree Vin I mean I liked something to be as explicit as possible and if you're saying that there's um a process of you know approval after somebody requests um like Luther said then I don't know if maybe it's best to just put that there yeah I don't know that's I was thinking that too that you know what it lacks even when you pull it out you pull out the the part that's that's uh Vue but you don't replace it with the steps taken to ensure a which you know we could draft some language stand put in there um to to get to that point that that's a good point because whenever an accommodation comes in I will typically contact the parent and tell them what we're doing and and to let them know that it's actually out of my hands that we're going to be looking for outside uh feedback to determine whether the question will be approved or not so yeah I like that line Luther you know that way puts a little for a little piece of mine as a parent that there is a process that we will will at least honor the request and go through the process um yeah I think that line that talks about the superintendent or his designate is that that I think is supposed to cover the police public works but that in itself is vague it's probably not enough so to give parents the opportunity to know that there will be a committee of people looking at yeah I I mean I read that line superintendent dese is a Singleton not a committee or that there's even a process yes so we could look we could we could next examples too so you guys can see if we could clean up the language Andor you know valuate the process um so if I could just if I could comment real quick um it it's to me it doesn't seem like this one is ready first reading because normally we'll have strikeouts and and edits already in there for us to sort of uh focus on and that doesn't seem like that's the case this one especially since there's been so much scrutiny uh by parents already on this I think that um you know you guys should have you know one that's kind of ready go and then you know we pick apart the words and and either add or subtract from from your suggested edits I so if we could just final like keep going through for any other feedback and then we can bring it back for first reading and then Adam when you give the blessing here at the end of the first readings then we'll just take this one out of the on that you move forward right okay okay and I'm gonna I'm gonna uh I cut out for a minute I'm gonna see if I can fix this connection I'll be right back okay all right thanks yeah um this is this is just to this number two talks about publishing the routes in the newspaper we don't do that anymore you know we're doing it electronically using par parent Square we we do put an ad in the paper to say right you could find the routes yep um yeah there is an there is an ad it goes into the paper about uh 10 days before the start of school that suggests going to either power going to Power School to find your student's assignment and we asked that they go they they check the parents check multiple times because changes keep occurring as close check as close to the start of school as possible uh but we do send uh a parent Square email out with the information for every student and then power school can be checked at any given time and so we said that at uh to three papers Waterbury Mar and the gure AR by so word SM that for the first reading next time um for these guys information I know you know we're pursuing in the State uh the statute is permitting drivers to use GPS and we're moving in a direction where soon parents should have access to where kids are on the bus VI yes right it's called parent tracking they should be able to track the bus as it's approaching their stop they can even set it up on their phone so it'll notify them when I you know whatever two minutes away one minute away um we've purchased a new routing system and map mapping system that will allow that to happen once the buses are outfitted then parents we should be able to offer that service and it's specific to the bus not let your child sell right specific to the bus um yeah um this is a modification we have 30 school days to respond to a petition um for for uh I'm just suggesting it's 30 school days rather than 30 days because you know we only work during this since we are getting feedback from others um I suggest we use the 30 school days which is when we're in session now weekend yeah we'll we'll review that internally too for consideration of the next meeting um yeah that's a little that's not yeah we already have that approved line five where it says intended it's it where I really want to put in there where it starts buses cannot leave the district and any so what occurs with our busing when picking students up that are on the edges of the district we end up having often to go into other towns and a good example w road if we pick up we have a couple of students that you can take a giant step and you're in wenford we pick them up we have to then travel into Wallingford and the only location to turn a a big bus around there actually a gaylord in their um their B field right and we've actually had an accident twice out there and what happens when an accident occurs the uh police must be called before that bus can move they have to sign off on it when we're out of District we have to call the out of District uh police the district that occurred in the police department so we would need to call Wallingford or in Prospect we have to call Prospect or in W Waterberry in waterburry and we are subject to their their police showing up and it has happened probably a half a dozen times over the last five years and the delays are significant one delay was 200 hours and all it was was the uh the crossover mirrors which are the mirrors hang out the sides hit a mailbox that was it and it took two hours for the police to show up so this this allows us to keep control inside the district so that's one of my suggestions is that that any any student living in an area that would require the bus to leave the district would be required to go to the miror stock so let's um identify what that looks like they would still not be outside of a mile from the nearest oh almost never right so let's if we could identify some examples to wind wind Court uh is the farthest location out off of w Waterberry Road that we can get a bus to turn around in in order to stay in the district the past winter road is maybe I maybe a quarter mile before you're outside of the the Chester District but there's nowhere for that for a big bus to turn around um yeah but what I'm saying we can show them like visually yeah Mis no so again we would just change this the school age the you know transporting kids um uh section eight responsibilities for uh parents there can be some contradictions in here between this and Section 8 the one that we talked about cleaning up the language for so when we clean that up we can um illustrate where the impact is on this U this bullet as well this was that's it yeah so you know we we definitely appreciate your feedback on this and for the next meeting as you were saying Adam will come with it being up based on that feedback uh just kind of start fres and take a take a hard look at where to go from there and if you have any questions you can email me and I'll try to answer them and get them back to you so at least the copy we have now has the highlighted sections you're thinking about changing and then we can uh or whoever's on this board uh this subcommittee next time uh can look at the highlighted uh bits and formulate their questions okay I'm assuming Carol will do the cleanup on yeah we'll we'll do the clean up yeah probably then I kind of word Smith it a little bit to make sure that it accurately reflects what you guys are looking for okay uh thank you J thank you appreciate it uh thank you so much any well before I let you guys go Sam's got the thumbs up and nobody's got any other questions for Luther before R up okay thank you sir than you SE thanks than you very much uh the next couple have to deal with Elementary kindergarten start Aid um this is pretty straightforward where we're looking at you know a policy that shifts from entrance um in January to September and I know that you three are no stranger to things like uh the state adopting and then changing and then changing again and um you may have seen in the news there's a lot of consternation about not so much the developmental shift you know but how this was facilitated and everything I I wouldn't be shocked if the legislature takes this up again and makes another adjustment but uh for the time being we're looking at and I know again like we've all talked about on numerous occasions regardless of what our policy says we have to F follow state law first and foremost and uh so yes I think you know we change this and update it to try and be as as contemporary as possible but um we're gonna always have to defa to whatever the state laws at the time and you know don't be shocked if we're visiting this one again in the not too distant future but um as I was saying you know this is uh kindergarten you District shall be open to Children five years of age and over who reach age five out before the first day of January that has been changed to September um and for the time being they can petition to uh be included in the kindergarten class uh so that you know will be that language here well that's for from the the law too so the this is the update here and then I don't think there were any other changes we were looking to make Jeff can you go back the way I read it doesn't make sense those born between September and January four years prior yeah so if you were born between September and January if you're four years um prior to the start of the upcoming school year four years old yeah four years old yeah it's four years prior to what I think it should say four years old probably yeah prior to the start of the so it's only those students that are born September to January yep are eligible to be considered for kindergarten with written requests I was initially thinking of writing the years but the years change under year so I'm sorry not that language I'm just G I'll say it one more time and if I'm not making sense we'll skip it but um I think the wording would probably be those born between September and January comma four years old prior to the start of the upcoming school year okay you could say those born between September and January who are four years old thank you Vinnie that that makes sense yeah leave it to the business guy to come up with some English December and January who are four years old are eligible to get rid of everything you know except for the words are elig four years old at start of the upcoming school year are elig to consider the words I I yeah I like the word old in there sure that reads that makes more sense yeah okay Jeff was there something in the the language I read that also requires a screener not just to go through you only am I reading that wrong yeah so that screener hasn't been determined yet that's there hasn't been State guidance for that and there isn't going to be um that they can initiate that process they still have to um considered for admission with written request I think that considered for admission is the part that indicates it's not a uh not a given but you will be considered and in that process we will have a screener for the student um I I know some districts uh have said yeah if you just asked you're in but that's not what their policy says necessarily but others have no idea what they're going to do other and really aren't even looking yet others like us are in the process of reviewing a variety of different uh in instruments or tools U or processes to determine if the child uh is appropriate for kindergarten it's just really the implementation of this hasn't been really clear in terms of how they want to do it and that's why I think it's it's pretty likely to change based on a lot of negative feedback from school systems and uh Early Childhood Early Child Care centers and stuff you know that's what kind of prompted our transition program that we adopted at the last meeting and there's been some good uh interest in that um very much appreciated by a number of parents we put the letter out and we've had over 25 people already uh express interest so um we're off to a good start there but we don't I think we're just saying that You' be considered but I couldn't even at this time tell you what that will look like I don't know if maybe we should put something in there that outlines that it should the consideration maybe it's getting too much into the weeds the consideration has to take into consider the developmentally appropriateness of I don't know I I worry because obviously you know you know this it is difficult to assess a child that age difficult to assess a child that age but it's not fair to assess a child that age if I were to do it tomorrow you know we're going to assess you on November 9th for kindergarten eligability next year you're four there's so much development that occurs in that window we're trying to figure out an equitable way to make those determinations I don't want to reject you on November 9th and come to find out that you know you were very appropriate on June 9th so you know that's what we're trying to work through um the data says you're more than likely not appropriate which is why the the start date got moved to September in the first place but we want to make sure we have a well reasoned method in place to do that evaluation which we certainly don't at this time yeah it just seems so contradicting because in at the end of the day you can't exclude either well we could say that you're not eligible um if you're born between if you're not five we could technically through the screening process say you're not ready for kindergarten yet and um that I believe that we're required to have an appeal process even for that um but ultimately we could say no you're not kindergarten ready you're going to have to either go to preschool or to our transition program this year um it like I said it wasn't really thought out how that would when the legislation passed so they yeah so that leads to a whole bunch of questions like so what's the criteria for uh saying no and then are we responsible for making sure that that child is what what so you say that someone isn't uh a child who's less than five right not isn't ready for kindergarten but then the criteria only becomes that you're five when you hit kindergarten is that essentially what we're talking like there is some sort of Baseline that you're looking for that's not exactly spelled out but then when you hit five then it doesn't matter essentially is what it is um it is a little weird you know that we're defining admission criteria for kids less than five but if you're five you could take the same sort of assessment not being ready but you're five so you're in right I think that's what I hear you saying right I mean that's you know many many years ago when I was Cher High School principal and we had a very rigorous exam to get into an accelerated course and nobody could pass it and I asked the department chair well give it to the kids in the class can they pass it and the answer was no there too so what good is that assessment so we started to be a lot more flexible about who we led into the class and you know I don't know if the same thing will happen here or what but um this is a conundrum that was was put on school systems that we're doing our best to try and resolve and like they said I don't I'm not going to be surprised if it if it changes again through the next session so I guess the question then is is there a criteria that's standard for that under five to assess is that when you say developmentally appropriate has there been training and some sort of universal agreement of to as to what that looks like or is there no such thing no there there definitely not Universal agreement um you know in terms of Developmental expect ations for Early Childhood we've got plenty of experts that are well grounded in those and those are the people were turning to to say all right so what sort of screener would be appropriate in this case so that's what we're working through now we don't anticipate having that resolved until m a winter and we're also listening to our PE and what are other school systems reviewing so this is really a Statewide challenge that we're all working through so it seems like then right now we should just more consider the letter of the law and not all of the spaces between the letters well that's what I'm proposing in the policy okay fair enough and we can always come back and modify it if the law doesn't change or if it does change and we need to change it again I'm fine with that okay so the next yeah any other com is there more to that one or is there are there any other comments no that was it and the next one falls into the same boat actually ages of tenant um didn't have yeah it's it's just the same third sentence yeah we're changing it to you know um this one we changed to 5 H before the first day of September um and then under this one changes to 22 definely this pretty much came from caves suggested language then yeah this is uh this is the policy that we had initially designed from I don't know whenever we adopted this 96 it hasn't really changed except for the fact that it's now five and 22 five September in 22 right the 22 thing is an interpretation through the courts it said the law says age 21 but the courts have declared that to be completion of 21 and we in Connecticut have gone further to say you know if you turn 22 in this Academic Year you can get through the end of the year Academic Year so and I you know frankly I feel like a lot of that is the state services for students for people with uh life skill needs isn't as robust as what local districts are providing so it's good for those people it's you know it's fixing the problem extending the services at the local level and we so superintendent have said great all the money that you're not spending at the state level to provide services for individuals with these needs why don't you share that back with local school systems so that we can afford to cover the additional year and a half that you put on and uh we haven't heard back so V is downstairs holding is most of the day waiting for that call to in it's not any day any day any day but this mostly impacts and it or extends the idea eligibility then yeah I mean it's it's up through 22 now and it's um it's that tweak on the front end now too this is frankly this is something that we didn't catch for the 22 the age of attendance till we looked at it this one this time around any other comments okay so the next one organization of instruction this is just a daa policy that we had um where we say this is from 1997 you know then was talk about the fact that uh you know back at that time Darcy housed all of our kindergarten students now we're saying elementary schools should consist eight excuse me grades K through six Middle School 7 8 9 12 there house and here we're saying preschool Comm of kindergarten and the uh stepen early August early intervention Center and then H will um serve to provide Alternative High School Services because it's not exclusively special at this is an interesting one Jeff because I feel as though it restricts us from changing up the delivery model if we need to later on uh and I specifically I'm speaking to for example most standards are bundled K5 so if we wish to create our elementary schools just K5 this then restricts it you know yeah it it's a fair question um the way the policy is written I think you know when we were back in the day pitching 6 through eight Middle School I think we would anticipate just changing the board policy um the it it is I mean Carol and I could look into it to see if we're even legally required to have it this policy I'm not even sure what it solves you're what it who does this serve that's exactly my question so I don't know if it's required or not um I do know mean you know I'm I'm thinking about Wallingford they I don't think they have this on their you know policy list because they've changed their delivery model several times right yeah they went from k6 to K2 three yeah three or K5 to k234 that was that was probably it feels like 10 years ago but probably they made some changes but anyway so you know maybe what we could do is um agree to these changes but simultaneously look at whether or not this is required and we can pick that up at the next meeting yeah I I just don't want it to limit us for you know for any other ideas that may come down the road if we take a look I don't know hypothetically at phase two of you know modernization and again I you know I'm not really sure who this benefits like most people know what's out there uh I I don't think I heard uh one time the mention of this policy and discussion of any kind of six R middle school so and it's just a matter of if there's no state law uh stopping us then this is a policy that uh we must have constructed at some point and can change whatever we wish sounds like to coincide with whatever we're doing yeah yeah I'm I don't think we're required to have it I just want to double check that like I don't think anyone ever came up to a Podium and went the board policy says you can't have a you know a six to8 middle school because it's not in the policy you know I don't think that's that happened once and you definitely were there for plenty of those convers that's one argument I never heard I never heard the 6130 drop that's right yeah no one pulled that one out and started you know shaking it yeah handing it out to us yeah yeah I would be very happy if they could could do that but this this allows them to do that we put restrictions on ourselves right don't want tie our own hands if we don't have to so we'll look into that whether or not it's required and there all right the last item I think no two items under this section this is uh an interesting one this is the status level of sports programs so uh I'm sure you recall the folks expressing interest in having a fencing program um it was different I guess when we had the co-op expression of for hockey because we kind of already had hockey but we didn't um and we we had kids in Co-op and we do fully fund that uh as a a program now but I think it's it puts us in a difficult bind as a board as an organization where we're making decisions about adding athletic programs based on the number of people or how many letters we get uh you things like that and so the suggestion Adam I think you mentioned at the last board meeting you know is there some sort of policy we can look at well Carol and I try to do some homework and we could only really find one um policy around this and it was uh designed by region five Amity and this is you know what their um Carol is this in your trash I did hear Carol grown yeah next door so I think we're okay now this is board member orientation so she's GNA pop in the right link that one wasn't the right for the next one yeah let me see if this I this is yeah so do you guys mind indulging us we'll jump to the next one while we fix that link yeah that's fine all right all right so new board member orientation um this one my only recommendation would be here um that we don't provide a uh copy we could simply say um electronic access um but you know given the fact that we are going to have some transition uh thought you know we can just update this one it's pretty straightforward like here it does talk about candidates placed on a mailing list to receive other I will be honest that we had not done that I think this is it does put a lot of hus on the district to proactively seek candidates and it says here that orientation of new get at the outside set of their candidacy and follow through each step of the election process um I think this language here is a little challenging I wanted to discuss with you Carol I looked at it Sam you have your hand up that was Tim but I I will follow up with whatever Tim yeah so I'm just going back to the first time that I ran for Town Council and I thought the process that at that time Michael milone used made sense he basically after people were I mean generally candidates come in from the two major parties right there can be others and you could you could play with it to some extent but what he did was after the two major parties had um produced their slates probably ear so that happens in Late July probably in early August he invited everyone in at least all the new candid all candidates including incumbents and said' look these are basically this is this is an idea of what's happening this is an idea of what does happen and the one ground rule he set and I thought it was perfectly reasonable he said I have nine bosses already so you have seven bosses Jeff he said I cannot report to 18 bosses it doesn't from his perspective it didn't work um and so he simply requested that all non-incumbents work through um work through incumbents presumably in their own party for various issues that come up just funnel it through funnel it through them and then he had a process in place where it made more sense to be following up and informing everybody about different meetings or whatever it might be I think you could probably pull together a packet at the beginning of the campaign and say uh this is the this is the lay of the land um and generally if it's a question about yourself and how you relate to the school system come to me otherwise we need to figure out a different way to make this work because I can't have 14 or and you I guess you'd have 10 different boss instead of or 11 instead of seven um he didn't he didn't spend time following up with non-incumbents um between August and November but the reality like you said is it could be for beyond for it could be 19 18 whatever based on how many people are actually running you know um no not I mean what I'm suggesting is not any sort of clear-cut situation I mean yesterday we had a right-in campaign and most years we end up having somebody as a right in it seems like um but I think to a certain extent I feel like it would be more manageable if you did something like that and you I'm open to whatever but I think something along those lines could work and also be helpful and productive for having a good campaign where people have an understanding of some of the stuff that's happening yeah I think that makes sense s question yeah that whole paragraph makes me a little uneasy because it looks as if you're stepping into prior to the candidate winning the role that you're stepping into some sort of political you know I I just there's got to be a separation here I like the on boarding process after they've been elected I think that's a nice touch are you doing stuff prior to election you know what I mean I think that's why I tried to modify this here that um orientation will begin at the outside of the follow through each step the election process prior elections beginning as soon as the individual candy is practically practically known the candidates will be offered from the board a brief overview of the ches public school system so what I could do is email the um you know the party leads and say hey can you distribute this to your well you know Vin Marlene and I can meet with these people or just me or whatever for an hour uh offer a couple of different dates that the people that are running for the board can actually and I I don't think that's a bad idea in the sense that you know like Tim has said before we want to try and make these meetings more accessible for people and I don't think it's a bad idea for them to meet with me to hear like here's what our board members actually do you know this right like you know I I don't know if that point they're going to want to pull themselves out but you know you know there are committees you know that you know this is kind of what the board and the school system is about um and provide some you know things like our um our goals our you know complex thinking social emotional learning the performance standards the vision of The Graduate that you know some overviews of some things maybe some data if they have questions or policy questions but after that like I think you're pretty much done like We'll add you to the distribution list because we have a distribution L that goes out to people when we have upcoming board meetings stuff like that um you know we we'll offer to meet with you kind of give you a l of the land and then do that and then cut you loose um because I honestly I have even to Town Council candidates offered the opportunity to meet with them already so this isn't something that's like wildly different than what I've done in in many years yeah no I get that Jeff I just my uneasiness comes from who initiates it I think I feel more comfortable if the candidate initiates the request of the meeting as opposed to you doing the offering first does that make sense I just yeah I mean I'm fine with that too um I mean we could leave it silent or we could indicate you know P request yeah I I feel more comfortable put some sense of a p Quest I just don't think the burden is on should be on you initially to do this I think if the candidate comes forward and says Jee I like to have gain more information I've done my research but I like some more of a deeper dive great but I there's a level of comfort that I'm just not at yet with the language I don't know what it is maybe Adam or Tim the ownership of us chasing you down to say hey you want to come in um I would argue that the entire paragraph should be stricken and then it's not the uh problem of the public school system or whether or not a candidate is is is ignorant of their office that they're running for thank you not our problem I I agree with I agree with all that my only my only concern is we end up with a few candidates very active candidates Board of Ed Town counsil who are like actively emailing Jeff on a daily basis and I'm not saying that happens I'm saying if it could and maybe it's a problem we deal with when it happens um but that's the concern because Jeff's gonna probably try to be responsive to people but you could literally end up with people hitting with hitting them with a million questions and yeah but II yeah no that's fine that's fine I understand if it be if it became an issue we could deal with it any Board of Ed could deal with it at that time but I do think it's I I do want to as a board member I want to support Jeff and being able to manage his time um and if he's right that's that's all that's the only thing that's going through my mind yeah the way I would handle it as a superintendent is if somebody started spamming me with questions yeah because they're a candidate I would start with a conversation with them okay if that wasn't effective I'd have a conversation with their party Le to say you know can you can you help me here with a situation yeah that's that's fine I mean I'm I'm comfortable if we don't have anything in there about it I'm with Adam on this one and Jeff no offense this this language should read for any you know succession line you know superintendent because I don't feel comfortable with a superintendent doing the initiation right so we're g to kill that whole paragraph right yeah yeah I mean it's a nice touch that after somebody gets into the position that you you know offer the the initial training so to speak and onboarding I think that's great to educate new members I it just change this from orientation packet to orientation program it's not oh just necessarily a packet we hand you y I think that would be irresponsible of us as a school system to just say here's the packet um the the uh wasn't the intention of the law to be a bit more formal yeah so the law is now requiring new board members to have a formal orientation program the law required C to put that together I haven't seen it yet um I'm sure that's a front burner item for them um but yes that's it's required now I still think it's beneficial for us as a school system to orient people to eat everything that we do even if um you know you've been a parent here heck you could have been an employee here and been on the board you may be taught here for 15 years you retired now you're running you may know pretty well but this is a different kid um so I I still think we would do something but we would modify it based on whatever cave is doing so there's that and then I think we're just going back to this uh sports program one which is the status level of sports programs now this is obviously not a very big um policy but they talk about the establishment um of this program how to establish a program you know I I think the one piece that is is relevant um you as a student athlete you have to you know if you're joining the sport you do have to follow all the CIA and our regulations for example the C rule is they call it you know we need to make sure that um you know if you're going to be a sport program you're committing to like our athletic fee ours rule our season um that you know all of our Sports have a season which from a budget perspective you know what you're getting into when you're playing a 15 roughly 15 week season um so that's just part of the consideration I mean if if anything you know the thoughts that that run through my head is is that if we're to promote a sport to Varsity status that there that needs to be almost sort of that that proven longevity and it's not just a pet project of of several people who who are promoting something for that's an advantageous to perhaps their own child or group of friends or whatever it is um it seemed to me like the uh a particular sport uh that was just recently presented seem to have those kind of legs um but you know I think if it's you know do we do we uh make sure that there's a does like does do all Varsity programs have some sort of feeder program to ensure its longevity um like you know what kind of level like we know that like a lacrosse or a basketball or soccer or football or volleyball or any of those really the you know sport Varsity Sports we have any of that I've missed sorry um but um that you know that a lot of them have some form of feeder program even down to the to the Youth Level through parks and wreck and so does that mean that if we have a Varsity Sport should it be a concerted effort uh through the entire town now or like because like we almost have to now Define what a Varsity Sport is what and how it should sort of age through all age groups of children yeah I I don't know that this policy is tremendously helpful it's the only one and you know it does say like you need to have all it's saying is that you have to have an orderly consistent fair and Equitable process to become a sport like it's not really defining what that Equity fair you know Equitable you know consistent process is um and I know John's been working with their athletic director to get more information about well what are you doing and they have an adopted programs in a long time so it's not like oh yeah here it is we do this all the time um so you know I I think your suggestion Adam is a fair one that the the program be something with roots like it's not like if somebody came to me tomorrow and said I demand a varsity pickle ball team you know well pickle ball has been hot for the last 10 minutes in terms of a longer scale of of 30 years um you know is that that's a consideration um so maybe John and I can try and work with other folks to see you know what are some of those considerations and we can float that back to you in a draft format things like you know like you just mentioned what sort of History does that have um you know what sort of membership what sort of uh you know I think the other considerations are you know what what are the costs for this support you know we're not going to pick up skydiving because the cost of flying is really expensive you know the cost is a consideration that um our Title 9 considerations in play here you know things like that in terms of providing equal opportunities for genders um which obviously we've tracked for many years and we're well within range there so why don't we work on putting some of these together because honestly I don't feel like this provides a screen right and I also feel like there should be almost like a year like you know a three to five year process just so like it's not like a a f you know a freshman came in and wanted varsity and they're hoping that oh maybe we can lock this in by the time I'm a junior and then here we go Application you know I got that Varsity thing done you know so it's like you know like in the instance of that sport it's you could demonstrate that they've been in you know in existence and they've had that pipeline for over three or five years to say okay there's kids up and coming there's kids that are down and that that are 10 or 12 and they have you know you know uh training groups and that kind of thing you know to to demonstrate that once like let's say there was a I think there was a several upper classmen who are who are in in in the club already but you know that there's let's say five or 10 kids who are in training now who kind of be up coming up through the ranks you know kind of thing they can demonstrate that where you're folding teams after three years right and what conditions can we outline to protect our school from that that you know today we have a pickle ball tomorrow we done you know we don't want to be putting ourselves in that spot our kids in that spot right so let's try and work on some of those criteria feedback to you for review your feedback um as we kind of trying to come up with something I I'm pretty sure we're going to be too late for in terms of defining it but I think in term getting three readings or whatever but I think we can be long Ro along the road about trying to determine what's appropriate and what's not I mean yeah I don't know if yeah certainly not by budget season but you know maybe by next year that's possible I suppose right said all hands on deck kind of thing because it could be controversial like technically right you know yeah it impedes on something else right in terms of getting it as a formal process I guess I was saying that you know I don't know we're not going to adopt that by January no yeah budget but I think we could have a good thought process for when we consider fencing or any other sport that might come forward for consideration and then ultimately formally adop right Timmy um oh Tim I missed your hand you didn't put up your hand I didn't I just see you Sor know yeah just adding just adding on what uh Adam was saying I mean I'm not convinced that we need to have a policy if it really happens fairly rarely but if we did I'm thinking something along the lines of just to throw this out there five consecutive years so it takes it out of you know one kid going through the high school five consecutive years a budget needs to Res be presented to the athletic director I'm assuming the way I'm assuming the way your budget comes together is the coaches give some sort of budget to the athletic director and it it funnels its way up he says yay or nay on various things so he could just get that built into a process like that and start to get a sense of what numbers they're actually thinking about if this if if if it does proceed because most of the stuff we do it has a budget impact and I think doing it over a course of a number over the course of a number of years would have a benefit improving um improving the interest level yeah anyway that's it for me Sam I saw your hand raised electronically I think I just want to go back Jeff I mean my visceral reaction to the last meeting of said requests from those families was that it is clear that we don't have any process or one that's clear without subjectivity or arbitrary you know years of however the Adam just identified I I'm just concerned that if we don't have whether it's a policy or guidance criterias something has has to something has to inform a group that this is what you go through to to get here to Varsity level and that's why I think I appreciate the idea of having some Define criteria that and I agree with him that you know eight years is superintendent this is the second time I've heard something the first time was very unique though because really we did have them participating already uh the girls hockey so it really wasn't I guess at that time considered a new sport but it was a new sport um and so I I don't think it's a bad idea to have some criteria that if this does come up again several years from now that we are meeting that threshold that I am had identified that it's it's clear it's Equitable it's um makes sense and and to your point Sam you know for some maybe five years from now pickle ball is still a huge thing and um we want a high schools for it other some other schools have adopted it and think well it's clear about what the standard is that and it it takes a lot of the ambiguity and frustration out of it for board members and and students and athletes and and parents alike so I don't I i' like the idea of having some guidance but nobody really has any good guidance out there so we're going to have to work on our own so this might be an inside what is the resolution to our previous requests so yeah that that'll come before you as part of the budget package um kind of the same way that the uh girls hockey did that you know present the budget and I it's premature for me to say yeah I recommend this I don't recommend this because I don't have a full picture of what their budget is certainly not relative to what our full budget is because we're not quite there yet um probably a solid month and a half away so you know it'll come before us at that point but maybe over the next month and a half in the next meeting of of this group we start take a look at what might be some of the criteria we would consider for future sports and potentially for this sport but how could the question even be answered you know okay we you uh the uh board uh approves money for what what are they gonna do with it because we have no policy to to to know how you promote a club to Varsity status and so what what would they do with the money so it's almost like they're kind of out of luck this year uh not to you know pre predetermine the issue but it seemed like it would be sort of like a a chicken in the egg I guess would be a good example right um do you have the money first or do you have the policy first thought Yeah Tim had his thought too yeah I mean I don't know I I I I think I can appreciate what you're saying but if we're going to move forward with it if a policy is not in place is that breaking a law Jeff or I mean would you be able to work with the coach and make it work and I mean if we're sort of a nebulous area I'm not gonna worry about it just as long as people understand what the what the rules of rules are basically but then we're just deeming it that's with girls hockey though you know that and I know it was we didn't promote that c Sport and we were in a co-op this is that more about helping with like busting costs that wasn't like a decision on promoting them the varsity because they they're not just asking for money they're asking for status yeah that's two different things yeah the girls hockey was a not a formal Sport and therefore we didn't fund it and so we funded it to make it a formal sport I guess I I appreciate what you're saying and it's a real it's a challenge I mean especially before we know what the numbers are you know the numbers were pretty clearly because you know we were intimately involved in the financial process because as a co-op when you're in a co-op you get the players from all over the towns you take the budget divide which has been established by by the Home school for the co-op you take the budget divide it by number of players how many kids are from your school that's their individual share and in the cocky case some schools in that Co-op were picking up the share other schools like us were not but do the members of the girls hockey team get Varsity letters and go to the sports banquet they they have their own sports banquet and I do I I will have to confirm on the varsity letter thing I don't know if chesher issues them a varsity letter or if they're issued a varsity letter through another school I I don't know how that works definitively right I can confirm that we have you know couple of two three up to five girls a season to participate but I I mon into that right because it kind of sounds like so even using that it's like is that was 235 is that a sustainable Varsity Sport like what is that that would be another question then what what is a sustainable Varsity Sport in ch or high school which is why we're in a co-op right you know we don't have enough kids to feel the girls hockey team right um which you know again that's the co-op really for you said you said girl oh Oh I thought you said field hockey I'm wait what yeah we H trouble jeez you know my my internet connection Jeff that's what cut out there for a sec okay all right so um where are we here we go we going for a while now um all right so um all right so these are we're going to uh make a a motion to move to a first reading right so I will move that we uh the uh uh policy subcommittee uh move let's see 20 am I already messing this up 2132 uh F 51 or 5111 yes yes um 5112 uh let's see organization of instruction I think that one was right 6130 G to move that one but maybe not oh wait oh yeah so um so should we pull 6130 back yeah we weren't yeah yeah okay all right so let me start over 2132 um 5112 uh and I get and 9230 and then it's bylaw 9230 oh and bylaw that's not a policy but it does require three readings right okay I think I got it one more time Adam all right one more time uh 2132 oh jeez I lost it that's my no I got it and bylaw 9230 is there a second yes okay Sam seconds discussion on the motion all right no discussion all in favor I unanimous I okay great that passes um all right on to the next the next one um Mr par gen had suggested that we review um that actually the next two you know I don't know that there's tremendous urgency for but um oh jeez that's why is this link up here there we go monitoring protocols and practices uh the topic of self evaluation came up at the last meeting uh anything you see in bold here that this is not my at it that was in the in the policy as it was um so basically as needed the board will schedule dates to conduct self- evaluation again as needed um I don't know that it's really given the significant turnover that we're going to experience you know with individuals I mean obviously it's entirely up to you but I don't know that the self valuation when we have several new board members maybe it's good to to educate people about what the expectations are as a new board member that's I think there are other things too Sam so Jeff I mean if you do a self- evaluation I would hope that there's a criteria a rubric of criteria Cade has a self- evaluation form that we used several years ago and then you that I think that makes sense is a is a like you said a rubric I mean I would think right at least for the past couple years in my experience now that having been awarded the you know cave award is an evaluation in and of itself yep so I guess what is the need for this and is there a frequency language in this too that every so often you always says as needed in our bylaw as written so what would precipitate it I don't know I don't understand it's really at the discretion of the board um I think you know uh it several years ago when I don't know that anybody could uh objectively say that the board was as functional as it is today I think there was tremendous value in that process uh to your point Sam the uh the cave kind of self- evaluation tool that we've been using and have been identified as a board of distination for the last two years I think is a if anything a validation of the practices used and the work that's been done by the board the um you know the transition I think that that's probably a good place to start with people with respect to that maybe in the orientation program I can provide them and I can share with the entire board the rubric and then ultimately we can decide you know you guys can collectively decide do we do we want to go through the evaluation or not um we're open to a lot of different things and this Tony I think is just following through um the question that came up at the board meeting as well I think it also had something to do with um the award like the ne like what do we got like a level one award was last year I think it had something to do with like if to go to the level two award like you had to engage in this self evaluation that's well let's do it Adam yeah right yeah I thought had something to do with that why don't I share both the G self assessment document and the award document just so people have that information and we can share that as you get you know when you report out next Thursday about what we talked about here they'll have that as a point of reference that's a good idea and then I'll include them both in the new board member or yeah I think for May oh Timmy did you have your hand sorry oh yeah uh thanks Sam uh I'm not I'm not totally opposed to this I am curious if it has something to do some Award with some award that sounds nice that's fine hold on Devon um but uh thanks de um the evaluation as far as I'm concerned it happens every two to four years we had an evaluation yesterday that's how I see it um but it like I said I'm still open for I agree with it for the record you don't agree with the evaluation but it is an evaluation that does happen every two to four years for us so anyway that that's just my perspective on it that's it I don't think it had anything to do with the board just saying yeah yeah I S for the record just you guys have been Boards of Distinction for two consecutive years and I'm really proud of the work that's been accomplished you know and thank faith and Andrew for their service is there moving on I know I'll do this I'm sure you guys will do it more publicly down the road too but you know I welcome the new folks and sure you guys will be right there too but anyway so s will send the cave instrument to the full board and the distinction criteria as well and then we'll share that with new members uh as they join up I mean I don't have a problem with putting something of a checks and balance in place with this but again you know who initiates it anybody on the board can just initiate the self evaluation yeah there's no criteria in there Sam I is our policy is written um and I you know I think that's why Tony said hey you know we can talk about it but um at at a subsequent policy meeting if we wanted to put this on for our first reading the committee could then say every given timeline or you know upon uh recommendation of at least three members or you know you could you could create criteria but that's up to you guys wanted to do that ate and I think you know when we share all this information uh is as you guys mentioned with the board turning over the at that point you know I think people can determine do we want to even bring this up for policy or not if that's the priority yeah I mean in the level of priority it's kind of low for me right now because I think we you do a pretty good job you know ensuring that we level up yeah we're shooting we like we like to meet that high standard so but okay so there that information and then finally we have the code of ethics which um I think the recommendation was that c recommends and that you know Tony out there that the board kind of sign on at the start of each you know organizational meeting so every two years uh when boards change that um you know uh members of the board attest to this code ethics and that's why he put it on there now we couldn't change this uh policy the as it stands right now I think it's actually I think it's not a policy but by yeah so we couldn't change it wasn't on the agenda tonight but you know we can review for discussion and you know I don't it's um it's not something that I guess you would vote on but you know in conversation you could say as we report out on this meeting there was discussion amongst the membership and we felt like it's probably a good idea to attest to this um when people join the board or something that's think it's interesting Sam go ahead I thought this was already part of that again that onboarding of new board members identifying you know what their roles and responsibilities are as a board member or am I wrong I thought in that big binder Jeff that you gave me or cave gave me yes it's kind of already clear so there's there are a couple of things when we hold orientation yes we review the the code of of ethics and expectations uh for new board members when new board members are sworn in on I think it's at what the first Saturday maybe or something in December for actually but um you know there's an oath that you take there um this is different uh from that o I mean this is uh certainly specific to the ched Public School System but you know it could be done we could add it to the agenda if you know we wanted to do that for the organizational meeting or maybe not the organizational meeting but the first meeting uh which is immediately after the organizational meeting Tim yeah I'm not I'm not 100% against this but I did just notice one bullet point in there that I generally disagreed with which is I thought something in there um board members and superintendents are staunched Advocates of high quality free public education board superintendent opportunity I thought there was something in there about uh supporting a superintendent or something like that anyway my point is if if there's a landslide election let's just say we it's not you Jeff but let's just say we have a superintendent the Chester public schools have a superintendent who's not doing a great job there's a landslide election basically run on getting rid of the superintendent and all these things just don't necessarily apply and I don't think that it necessarily has anything to do with um board members being unethical there was one I think it was there was there was one situation this is probably 10 15 years ago in The Amity School District where I think every month for a year and a half they went out to referendum on their budget and it kept getting rejected and and it was just an absolutely awful situation but I could see a situation like that where you know PE people run there's nothing unethical about them and that kind of is the suggestion that if they don't support this then they're unethical but I agree with like I agree with the concept here what's what should exist but if it doesn't I I don't believe that it this would ex that situation would exist in all school districts at all times there's times when it wouldn't and that to me doesn't suggest that someone's unethical and that could be what someone thinks because they're not supporting the ethics uh commitment Sam go ahead um I think we had a recent situation in Connecticut I.E goord okay that you know this could have come in handy so I don't want that same situation to happen here um I think I for me I just need a little more time to digest each bullet point Jeff I know you'd like to kind of make it available after the swearing in but you know what like this is not um this this was only brought up uh I think Adam mentioned that Tony emailed us before the meeting and said hey this is something that c recommend so I I appreciate that this is an 11th hour conversation um and I I'm not meaning to know push it on anybody or anything it's just um being brought up further request no I I I definitely agree that we should read through this a little more I I do want a little more time to kind of word Smith it in my own head first yeah feels like it could use some massaging there yeah it's very cabby too cabby for you yeah well no it's like it's always like it's like the wording isn't very creative it's sort of blah blah blah you could definitely improve on it usually that's very comprehensive put that in as an adate Jeff very our issues yeah the K before bet there is a new policy writer for C so hopefully I think you're only insulting who ever wrote this in 1984 or whatever4 probably gone all right is that uh is that it that was all right well uh for me uh all I'll say is that uh it has been an honor and a pleasure to have been chairman of this policy committee for oh has it been only two years maybe it's only been two years but I've been on the policy committee has it been four years okay years yeah because before Sam Katherine was on policy with me and you for two years Katherine fabiani oh then you were not the chair but on policy with Nita and no um marinaa Mar for a few years you a policy years going away chair yeah we'll see what the future holds but it's been an honor to serve uh these past six years uh four as the chair and um you know it's been an honor to serve so that's all I'll say thank you thank you where are you you going Adam I don't know I don't know what the new chair is gonna think I I don't know what the chair is gonna be I I I suspect I suspect neither Adam or I will be chair of many committees a month from now well or be or be on any you know who knows we be on the I know house plant committee or something that' be great if that's necessary I guess you can play the Christmas party these two anyhow uh motion to adjourn all right we're adjourned Jeff V I keep you for one second
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I have a quick question is um everybody has their own personal link or is it the same one for everyone everyone has their own link and so if they receive the calendar invite reminder they would just click on their name okay because I know that my kid has uh having she was like oh Mom can I just log in with you but if she has her own Linkin I'll try to see if she could log in on on her phone okay I'm to figure out how to move these cameras back he good afternoon everyone welcome to tonight's um Safety Committee this is meeting number two I am going to start the meeting off just welcomeing everyone here as we all log in just a reminder our meeting starts promptly at 5: and we are respectful of everyone time and we end properly at six um tonight we do have our president our superintendent Mr Ortega who's also on our super uh in our Safety Committee so again welcome you all I did want to just go over the Norms just one more time um just a reminder on how we speak we should raise use a raiseed hand icon um to speak um and be ready to speak when we call on you um we ask that everyone please stay muted um throughout the discussion um questions we would do our best to answer all questions during the meeting um but by all means please also add your questions to the chat so that way if we're not able to get to your question we are able to respond accordingly um also the strong reminder to respect all differences of opinion we all have the same goal of ensuring the safety of all of us both employees and staff and more importantly we will always start and end on time with that um this week for this meeting we did receive five questions and all of the questions related to safety drills so tonight we're going to do a presentation on safety drill answering those specific questions um and with that we will get started I'm going to share my screen thumbs up when you guys can see awesome awesome sauce so again we are talking about safety drills we have three required drills that we must complete every school year the first drill being a fire drill the second drill being an earthquake drill and the third drill being a lockdown drill we're going to start with the fire drill we're going to cover for all three drills the frequency the procedure and the compliance so first for fire drills according to our board policy 35 16.1 the principal shall always hold a fire drill at least once a month at the elementary level four times every school year at the intermediate level and not less than twice every school year at the secondary level and a secondary level primarily being high school and middle school um our procedures includes that the principle shall notify the staff as of the schedule of the fire drills whenever fire fire drill is held all students teachers and other employees shall be directed to leave the building teachers shall ascertain that no student remains in the building and teachers shall be prepared to select an alternate exit route and shall direct their classes to the exit wherever is designated and determined as Escape Route to ensure that it's not blocked when our teachers leave out their classroom um there is to be an emergency exit map at the doorway as well as a fire extinguisher and the fire extinguisher should accomp accompany a teacher when they're exiting their classroom for compliance the principal or design shall keep a record of each fire drill that is conducted and they maintain a copy for their record as well as submit one to the superintendent's office or his or her designate our next drill is our earthquake drill the frequency we always have one once a year we are always encouraging our sites to have more than one but the main required is once a year the district um participates in the districtwide great ShakeOut which takes place on the third Thursday of every October our procedure is we're supposed to drop cover and hold on so we drop to the floor um as as the ground may be jerky are not firm we are to take cover under something that is sturdy to protect ourselves from any falling objects this could also include standing into a doorway we are to hold on meaning if we're underneath a desk we're supposed to hold down the leg so that way when it start shaking it doesn't move away if you can't get under something here to stay low and to protect your head and neck with your arms before leaving a building we are always encouraged to look around um assess objects that have may be fallen and then we exit when it's deemed safe for compliance the principle or design is to keep a record of the participation in this drill and as with the fire drill um copy of that record is maintained on the campus as well as a copy is sent to the superintendent or his or her design KNE for our lockdown drills have a lot of information there so our lockdown drills we do these once a year but again sites are encouraged to um participate in them more than once um procedure during a lockdown drills all student staff are trained to get behind a locked door cut the lights out um and remain out of sight um compliance the principal desne maintain this record and um provide a copy of the record to the superintendent desne and I apologize for this educational code this is just about safety and buildings so our communication modalities doing emergencies um we have three ways of communication for all of our campuses one is being a classroom phone or a buzzer paging um system and the reason why I say that is because not all classrooms have the new voice over IP phones um some still has the old pagent system which allows them to hit a button to contact the front office um in a state of emergency with the pagent system they hit the button they're able to alert the front office of their emergency needs if they have the voice over IP system they can actually dowal the front office as well as make other calls from their office the district's current goal is to ensure by 2425 that we have a districtwide voice over IP which is vo and I'm sorry um that means that we have a digital phone system that goes through our Network and our goal is to have this installed districtwide from the offices to all the classrooms for every one of our operating sites the second mode of communication that we have on our campuses are called our intercom system at Dalton Lee and Paramount they are currently the only sites that have our new operating clock intercom system which is a digital clock that's inside the classrooms and NPR rooms and other U off um frequently operating spaces that always displays the time the district logo it also has a speaker on there where if there's an emergency there can be a all call alert as well as it gives the option of have an alert notification via color in case we have anyone that has hearing impaired or it can give you an alert notification to let you know please shelter in place or please keep all doors and locks it gives us another way that we can communicate instantly from one remote area to all the areas on our campus we also have walkie-talkies um all sites currently have walkie-talkies any site that currently did not have a operating phone in the classroom they were all issue walkie talkies in that in their classroom that is no longer a safety hindrance at our site for our campuses because all Sites currently have either a working phone or a paging system in their classrooms and front offices so how does a district office support during a safety need whether it's a lockdown or any type of emergency um the site has this contact card which tells them exactly their disruption procedure there to follow on the back of that card it also gives them the a point of contact for our director of communication as well as our director of child safety and Welfare upon the site contacting the number on the back of the cart cabinet is informed by way of communication through the superintendent and the super assistant superintendent um during lockdown procedures and other emergencies cabinet immediately dis uh disperses to those sites to provide additional partnership and assistance for example um last year when there was a lockdown needed at pal Elementary not because of activity that was going on on campus but it was activity in the neighborhood once the um um Police Department contacted our director communication Captain was aware we were alerted and we were all dispersed um we had our superintendent first contact with the principal then uh assists superintendents were either dis uh dispersed to work the gates provide communication to families help when we are able to remove the lockdown and help um reunite students with their families and a USD upgrades that are on the horizon I don't know where these questions are coming from on my slides now I apologize so we have recently upgraded most of our fire alarm panels and I say most because we are currently at our district office but all of of our school sites now have um working panels um fire alarms which they always have but we we are upgrading our fire alarm so I do not want to give the impression that we did not have working fire alarms but we are upgraded our fire alarms and what we're working on now is upgrading our panels and the reason why that's important is because we want to make sure we're working with ausa fire to ensure that if our fire alarm goes off and Wing one that's exactly where they're being dispersed to um we're also working to get our district on one unified panel um we found that it depending on the area of our campuses they were on different type of fire alarms which also creates um harder it gives you a harder way to manage um those systems so now that we have a one unique system it gives our maintenance and operation as well as our Mis um director the ability to truly troubleshoot and manage and partner better with the um isua PD Department we have also install surveillance cameras and we continue to do this this allows us to be able to see if we have any wanted activity on our campuses it allows us to see if anyone came on our campus that wasn't supposed to or if we had an area of our campus that we're know we're not being utilized and we now see traffic then we're able to get alert as as an administrator to say Hey you have activity in this area um we are also rolling out Access Control Access Control means that our all of our doors would be able to be open with Badges and the reason why that's important and exciting is that if there was ever a need of lock down because we have access uh control doors we don't have to go to each door and manually lock it we can literally do it from the district office or at a school site for safety measures we also are in installing visitor management system which means that we now when our visitors come on our campus once properly rolled out they will show their ID badge it could be scanned it will alert us to let us know like hey yes this person is supposed to be on our campus but more importantly it will produce a badge that will identify who that person is and the room or the area of Campus that they were authorized to go to so that also gives us that that um extra caution of hey I was in a bwing but I saw somebody with a visitor bash that was only supposed to be in the gym area so then that would alert me to contact my site administrator and then we all have our all hands on deck of ensuring the safety of our campuses we also have the digital clock and alert system that I shared that is currently at Dalton Le and Paramount the will be installed districtwide um that's another again paging and alert system so there it was an emergency it can Flash if something was happening on the campus the administrator can log on and just by the click of a button or just um hitting a call a number to say hey I need everyone to shelter in place that one message go to all the classrooms that has the working um system it's a digital clock it gives us an alert if that same alert and we knew we had let's say a hearing impaired person we we can um identify those to go a red code for one type of alert and we will train everyone to say when it's flashing red this means shelter in place in addition to the flashing red lights you would also hear the voice of the administrator stating what is going on that is also a way to do an all clear so that way we don't have to wait to have a chain telephone line to say hey you're clear you're clear it could be all clear over the one speaker system and another upgrade that we have is that we have upgraded our walkie-talkies we the old analog system which we know if you went too far your walkie-talkies did not work we have been rolling out our new digital um walkie-talkies that allows us to be able to talk further as well as to have more communication as well as from the district office to our sites and with that I am going to say thank you and ask if there's any questions on our safety drills Mr noi before you go Mr Noy can I acknowledge I didn't answer your question I can answer it right now your question that you submitted was asking um do the drills have to be announced or unannounced and there is no rule that it has to be announced or unannounced but we have the ability to do unannounced drills yes the reason I I brought that up is because a few years ago when we had an actual another fire previous to the one we just had on campus a couple of weeks ago um we it I was astounded I walked into the classroom and the there was a fire when we had uh um when we had uh um uh home economics on uh on on campus uh they were teaching them how to uh cook and they turned the stove on and you know unfortunately the uh the stove wasn't hooked up uh correctly on the back so what happened was that there was a fire in the classroom uh I walked in because there's a lot of noise chatter and all the students were still in the classroom uh we had to pull the fire alarm Evacuate the uh the entire campus but uh I went to go check on the north side of the the campus the two the back of the 20000s and um I found that all four classrooms were still in class so I you know proceeded to each classroom ask him what are you guys doing and said well we thought we we didn't know we were having drill and I told him says it's because it's not a drill that's why I mean to me it's if you know if we don't announce drills it makes people aware to what's going on um so that that's one thing that uh um if we can try differently see how that works um y um but going back to uh the uh uh the axis uh cards that we're that are going to be issued you know hopefully soon or the uh keyless entry is security going to have like a universal one in case teachers get locked out or they forget their cards or how is that going to work so yes so it it'll it parter be just like your ID badge um and so it's as simple as hey Latasha is currently working at glassstone but we're transferring her TOA within a clicking a button my badge is now accessible takes my aess away from one to the other if I lost my badge it'll be the same as if I lost my keys I will go to my administrator let them know I lost my badge and another badge could be issued okay uh what if they forgot it and forgot it at home and they needed entry same thing is if they forgot their keys they will go to the front office and and speak their administrator and say hey I forgot my badge and then a temporary badge will be issued to them thank you you're welcome Mr Gabriel kind of going along that line where you said that there would be like Central our ability for central control for locking doors yes if there was a lockdown yeah if there was a lockdown that could be controlled either from the site or the district or just the district no it both the site so you get once we have that you'll be trained on on that platform on how you can lock down your campus and that would that ability to control would be in a couple admin hands or just the principal that has not been determined we're still rolling out the system so we're doing the is now but as far as who's having access to it that has not been determined all right thank you you're welcome Miss Meg and then miss Patricia you're muted Miss Mick sorry I have a lockdown question semi related I think um entry Gates and exit gates and I'm specifically thinking of one at ausa high school um it is a gate that in the past students um have been able to exit from employees can exit from because it had a push bar um and I was always told that with those Gates we were not allowed to lock them because of you know actor active shooter possibility safety fire things like that but that particular gate the one that's on the western most side next to the front parking lot on citos has a padlock on it now and so safety-wise I'm wondering when there is a lockdown when there's an issue and we've all been taught to flee from the nearest gate why is that pad locked so we're working on those and I know we have one at isusa High School Mr uh trust reached out to me about that um we are working on removing Pat locks from margat and putting the push bar and that'll also be part of the access control deployment well that one has a push bar and so a padlock has been put on the push bar gate and I'm wondering that will be that removed pardon me I would have I'm I'm sorry I was saying that site specific so I would need to look into and partner with Gabriel to see why that's happening maybe the push bar isn't working properly I'm not sure but I can look into that for you okay yeah because I when I go on the site visits um I was surprised and somebody told me that that's been a problem and they've tried reporting it but it is a safety issue related to if we have you know something like that so that's no problem I'm most definitely looking into that thank you miss Patricia um so thank you for all the information that you provided this evening uh Latasha um just a couple of questions one is do we have are we in the process of finding out what is our backup procedure in case once we start using this access card that wifi or the system goes down is there a a backup on that and then secondly um I'm glad to to hear you know like I said we're moving forward and all of this but um I know we're having you know the cameras are being installed everywhere and so on is it going to be accessible that for for safety transparency and everything that we will have a series of panels available to be able to watch what's you know like uh safety purposes a designated area where there's six monitors six cameras six monitors or they're just changing so it's we're being proactive in case something does happen or we do see something suspicious on a far gate that nobody it's a blind spot to us that we're able to see something maybe ahead of time and then be able to be proactive do a lockdown get ahead of the game and so it's constant because I've seen it at other districts where you walk in their front office and there's literally a whole set of monitors and they're just changing because just the safety uh is that something that you're considering um so I'm go to your first question so the backup um so even with the badges we will still have keys so that's the backup so we're not removing the key access it's just another way to access our campus and to be able to lock down so that will be our backup as far as the monitors um as of right now we have not went down that route because that's also determined a person who's going to be responsible for monitoring so you can't just put something up and not designate a person because that also increased the liability so once you implemented you actually have to have the Personnel that's going to do the monitoring so right now what we have is that our cameras give us alerts and so each site was able to determine when they wanted to receive the alert so typically it's after hours and weekends then they get an email notification or text depending on what they chose to be be informed that something is happening on their campuses and that is the same at our secondary level with the sensor alerts inside the restrooms um we also have our overnight person who does have all those C uh screens that they're able to watch our campuses so right now that's how we're monitoring our campuses and to be proactive but we have not gone down the road of saying hey we're going to put this up in our front offices because then we would have to determine who's going to actually monitor them thank you Mr Noy um Gabriel with your permission if I can answer that question that may had H could we not could we do it separately so we can do the alert versus here okay awesome thank you so much any other questions okay I got one more and then I'm done for the night um may I ask in regard to district I know we've had a lot of info about our school sites and some on the district do we have procedure because you your site has multiple doors multiple you know like it's it's kind of open to anybody so does the staff there also have procedure do how you know like how are they made aware are they going to have the like every door going to have a TAP card on it to be able to access it from every Warehouse to every Department uh door there yes and currently that's the case now to get into the district office you must have a code with the exception of the front office area then you can get into the welcome area but you cannot go beyond that area without being buzzed in so that's currently the process and so then where we will be going beyond that is yes the district office will continue to have access control so instead of entering a code like right now you either enter a code or you use your badge the district office will also have the a access cards but then we will also have that when you go to the PDC when you go to nutrition services so will be districtwide awesome anyone else with questions Gabriel relating to our our safety drill um we would like I'm trying to figure this out on our calendar to be able to provide like comprehensive training for all our new Personnel on it about their roles within a proper evacuation drill so like in and you know when you would have like a search and rescue team you have all these different teams that would be activated on campus that would be comprised of all certificated and classified but like do a training for our search and rescue do a training for our um our first aid Team all those different groups of of of employees but we would like for all of them to be trained in the rle roles um is that something that we can contract with in terms of a a company or how how how might we go about that so we we train people properly so that would be a s specific question remember our role here is district-wise safety so if we're saying we want to do that District wi then we can look to see how we can incorporate that but we don't want to use this platform to figure out how we could do things specifically just for isza got it but we can talk about that offline if you like all right sorry about that oh no problem any other questions yes Miss Meck am am I allowed to ask oh I'm sorry go ahead Miss V go ahead oh go she's ging you thumbs up Meg go for it I'm sorry I didn't see she that she had her hand raised okay um is it okay for me to ask questions related to the security cameras for security purposes if it's districtwide yes yes districtwide um so um um you had shared with us previously I'm not sure if it was here or if it was um in another meeting that we were in so I apologize if if you said that the cameras that were being installed were specifically being placed in locations to make sure that there were not um like blind spots correct um also additional cameras yes and specifically also um cameras that were like facing the streets and things like that where there were possibilities of exit and uh or even entry traffic coming from the outside of the school in correct correct Okay so security purposes wise what what else are we doing with the cameras Beyond just essentially BL what I understood to be blind spots and um access points so uh the blind spot terminology came in when we did the first phase of our perimeter installation of cameras we realized we have blind spots meaning the camera we will put in in section A when we looked at it we noticed that as soon as a person passed the camera we would never be to see them and they was still on our campus so we went to phase two to cover the blind spots meaning it was given us additional coverage to be able to see when someone entered our campuses where they went for safety purposes of actually accessing our campuses does that one help it does but okay but then I'm gonna ask um another question and and I'm thinking in terms of and I don't know how to say it so I'll just kind of blurt it out if we're talking about fights on campus or if we're talking about something that is questionable about student Behavior whether it's Elementary or secondary it's anywhere we do not have cameras though that record them going down the hallways and things like that correct I mean the parents would have to be and teachers and classified we'd all have to be made aware if those kinds of cameras were taking regular pictures right we have no cameras inside hallways inside a building now there's a walkway that leads to a exit point a camera will cap capture that walkway because it leads to an exit point and we have signage on can I give you an example that I'm just thinking of in my head I was driving um um around isusa high again this is not isusa high specific it's just an example because I know and I got to see where the kids are crossing the street from east to west because I was driving my car and so for example a camera might be placed there because it is an exit point from the west campus and an entry point to the East Campus is that what you're saying no so like if we're looking on the back of Aza High School you would have a c camera on the back building which was the old theater so there will be a camera there that can actually capture a entry and exit to our campus but that does not mean we have a campus at the gate on the other side we will have a c we will have a camera on the nearest building that actually can capture the field area if someone came on our campus that's what we would have okay and the reason I asked related to like the fights and stuff is that there's no way I'm asking this from almost a parent perspective that you know if my child got into a fight and you caught it on camera you're not allowed to use that camera footage right because you don't have parental permission to be taking video of the kids correct that is not correct but I'm going to say that that is not a topic for our Safety Committee that will be under student Support Services because the question is not a safety related meaning do I have permission to record a student because I'm not recording a student as a fight the fight was captured under the camera so well and so I I maybe I asked it the wrong way I I think that it um there's a conflict here related to safety versus students rights versus something else because let's face it kid thinks they're being recorded they're not going to fight and fighting is a sa but what we have to remember is all of our campuses has the sinage that lets you know that once you enter our campuses you are being recorded that's at every entry point of all of our campuses but it but but are we having people sign permission to be recorded that's not required just it's like if you go into a bank you don't sign permission for them to record you to enter the bank we just have to inform you that you're being recorded but I'm hearing you say that the video cameras for the sake of safety are only on the external parts of the campus not internal in the sense of walkways or anything else unless they are a direct um Pathway to an entry or exit point is that what I heard I I don't want to say that way because I don't know if we have the same interpretation of internal external if if you're on the quad area that's external so there are cameras in that area because there's an entry point to get into our buildings but there is no cameras inside if you're in a classroom in the bwing or if you're inside of a classroom but there is a camera in the front office but if you're walking through the quad area and there's a gate there is a camera that could capture that area if there is a gate to get to the outside of the campus yes so I'm going to give you another example because again I want understand so I'm only using isusa because I was just there and so it's fresh in my mind there are what I would call Quad areas um that are not the big quad with all the trees in the middle but but where the classrooms are correct but if there is no entry or exit gate to one of those quads because you know the open air space is surrounded by classrooms there shouldn't be any cameras there that's not correct because of a person jumped the fence and entered our building we need to be able to capture them so there is a camera in that area that's a external area it leads to the streets maybe another way maybe another way of saying it is cap is capturing all the external perimeter of our facilities so um so the I'm was thinking small so like at elementary school the black top area um that would be covered even though it's not a gate or whatever uh but if somebody were to to pop in we need to make sure that we are we can we we can monitor and piece together a story of of of what what occurred you know maybe when they hopped that we couldn't see them but now in this camera we capture them really well so when we say external we mean the outside not like the street the outside but the outside of our buildings what we're not doing is like inside classrooms um you know like things like that so hallways and walkways you're placing cameras where you can see people walking down hallways and walkways then if it's outside if that's a walkway to lead outside yes but if we have an internal hallway no okay so at Hajj then let's use an elementary example because you just brought that up they have areas where there's a quad in the center of six classrooms it is completely surrounded by classrooms are there cameras in there inside even because it's an outside space but it's not direct it does not have direct access in any way to an outside fence or anything else they have cameras to enter the quad to show if you came from the grassy area to go inside those quads okay all right Miss I'm gonna say your name wrong because I know that's not your name that's the name that's displayed I'm so sorry it's okay it's V that's my last name I messed up that's my son's name Victor um I'm a new parent new to everything I had a different question but now regarding the cameras um if I can just you know if you can just explain to me so they can't be cameras inside the classrooms and can I know why um so um we would have to negotiate having cameras inside the classroom and also identify the need for cameras in the classroom so that's not what we do not what we have here okay okay thank you and my first question was um you uh mention ACC I know there's an access code door at the um School District district office yes ma'am the district office um is that I just want to clarify is that something that we're planning on doing at every school so at every at every school it's not going to be a code but it'll be a badge so meaning a teacher or staff person would not need a key to get get in they can use their bad to get in but the front office door is always open up into the welcome area for visitors to come in and check in and then you would have to receive access to come to the rest of the campus which we currently do now so you can't just walk directly on our campus you have to stop in the front office sign in that process will remain the same it's just the staff now would not have to physically use the key if they currently use keys to get into their classroom they can now access their classroom with a badge okay and for example as a parent you can go into the office and then just wait and to be walked into the actual yes ma'am you will not lose your access okay thank you so much you're welcome thank you for the question Mr Noy and then miss Patricia in regards to the uh the access um and the gates are we going to have uh um access through the gates without having to use key the goal is uh for the doors that have the push availability if technology can go that far remember to make access control work it has to be able to connect to the network so as far out as we can all Gates will have the ability to have the access control okay so that um will that be also to exit uh through one of those Gates using an ACC no no exit is always a push bar you cannot lock a gate during operating hours this is just to get on to the campus okay thank you you're welcome Miss Patricia you um so two things one is um the front door I understand you know uh it's always maintained being open and so on but if we have a lockdown will it lock automatically and also um for some of us at some of the school sites that you may have visited there's a little concern in regard to moving forward because um like in at my school site it's I'm like a fishbowl in here and it's before we know it it's it could be too late I'm going to be honest this is a Safety Committee we're we're moving we're doing this because of these reasons um is there going to be any way of pushing a gate further out that can be automatically locked like like you know where our school for example we have a partition of a of a brick wall and if we put a gate that goes slant over to the push gate we can have a dual push gate if we needed to we can put an access right there so if a lockdown goes goes on it automatically prevents the Intruder from going past the office that's a concern there's some schools like hodj they don't know who's coming through the door they're working and by the time they look up so is a district considering that and also schools that are exposed to the part of their school is exposed as like mine and others there's a whole row of classrooms that are nothing but Windows is that been considered with all of this going on because it'll kind of defeat the purpose is there anything of fencing off to prevent intriguers from coming in on campus on the parking lot side or those that have window you know what I mean I mean if any of you my school I live my scho but um that we are closed to the streets yeah so I could go backwards so one as far as there additional fencing going up that is not currently in the plan that is not me to know but that is not currently in the plan so there will be no fencing blocking Windows um as far as all front offices just all front offices will have the access control um as far as moving gates to change entry points um we have not started that conversation we did start exploring we're looking at how the off how the setup is at um Murray how you can go in and you're only in that area but you're not in um actual in the front office so we are doing those audits at this time um as far as who can do a lock down that could be done from anyone at the district office as well as any administrator on campus that has access and it's literally a click of a button and everyone will be trained on that and then we will be determining who all should have the ability to lock down on campus great question anyone else Mr trusso okay first of all I'm sorry I'm late uh my practice got out at 5 o'clock and my last player didn't leave till about 5:20 because she didn't tell her father that practice was over at 5 o'clock so sorry about that um so I want to make sure she was safe out there there okay so two so one thing okay I'm actually going to bring up okay and I and I I know I posed this question to you already Atasha um but about the side gate over here okay um and I understand why you know certain teachers only have keys for that gate but my concern is that um you know during emergency if something were to happen right um you know active shooter something like that I I can't I'm not going to wait to try and call a teacher see if they're okay to see if they're going to go to that gate and open that gate because not of us not all of us have the key so I understand about hey we got to lock that gate because we don't want students sing the campus and I get that okay um is there a way that we can have the same key that opens up the outside open up the inside instead of making that gate a push a push open um so that way we all have access to that and the kids that way the kids can't push that gate open we have a lot of options that we can explore um but as I Shar that's site specific um so I don't want so I would encourage you and Mr Fernandez to meet to come up with a solution to see how you guys are going to operate that area in a time of emergency okay all right anyone else Miss Meg um I I want to address the gate and the push gate thing and not use ausi as the example because I don't want this to be about site specific because I want to understand um when it comes to safety what is our rule of thumb going to be with these Gates that are the the push Gates and and I'll use another school as an example Magnolia um they have some gates that are push Gates where literally last year not this year there were kindergarten kids because they were Runners and wanted to escape that pushed the push bar and ran out the door and so you have that as a problem on one hand but on the other hand we were told you can't lock them because you need to have access for the kids to get out in case there's an emergency that is true so what is the solution to that and how is that different than say what's happening at a zeusa high where they've got Gates that are bolted shut or locked shut even though they have a push bar thing like what is the rule of thought so I I won't address isua because that's that's okay but I'm just I will share I will share so an example that you did give so push gates are to be open and unaccessible to just push and exit during operating hours in the case of like when we had a magnola and we also had this at Murray where we have our buddies that like to hit the gate and say bye-bye we put adult latches on them that are also unlocked but it pushes so if the student pushes it that the gate doesn't actually open the latch clicks on but if it's an emergency the adult at the appropriate height just flips it and it goes out there's no key required it's just a hook to keep it so that a student can't open it okay so help me understand this is all secondary it's not a zeusa high every secondary s they have to have the push Gates too right and so how is that monitored with kids because they need to have that option too however you can't just put the adult latch because most of those boys are taller than me for goodness sakes and just can reach up there and flip it open right but but that that's not a secondary matter though I want to make sure we're understanding the gate a high a secondary student EX in a campus that's a behavior that we have to address but a Elementary student that is running and pushing out we can prevent them by putting the latch putting the latch for tall six seventh eighth grader that doesn't work and you can't lock the gate so if you have a push bar it has to be open and we have to monitor that as staff but I heard you say they are all if they are if there are push bars on the gates they are supposed to be left unlocked that that is that is true that is true ma'am okay okay just wanted to clarify because I I know we're not getting into site specific but I'm hearing you reaching you reaching but yes okay any other questions all right I'm just going to start talking just in case we have our next meeting which is January 10th as a reminder your questions have to be submitted by December 22nd after December 22nd I change it to view only access and remember you're just updating your questions and that helps us form uh formulate our agenda so if there's agenda topics that I can group together I will or um I will say hey this will be on the next month agenda it also helps us identify based on the topic of interest if we need to have an outsider so the sooner you posee your questions we can formulate the agenda we can make sure the person that's appropriate to speak on that topic is available I do want to thank Mr Manuel for coming in last minute um because I wanted him here in case we had additional questions so thank you Manny I appreciate that um but with that guys we had no more questions want to be mindful thank you thank you thank you for your participation thank you for the questions and thank you for partnering with us to make isua UniFi more safe have a good night all
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utation Authority board of directors authorize education Outreach programs for the entire County providing factual information about the improvements that is delivered to Road streets and highways across County from here in Foothills all the way back to the valley um and uh at this time we're currently in the process of B measure development for a potential measure in 2024 our current Outreach effort is focused on providing pure information to uh uh to Residents and Community organizations we're not here to advocate for passage of a measure but we are here to provide data and information about what Mr T has done over the last 15 20 years people understand its impact here on across mad County um just as a little bit of background for the scale and scope of this measure um is generated $156 million in tax revenue to date to support our roads and transportation infrastructure um it has allowed our region to leverage additional an additional $319 million from state and federal grants um to improve Transportation infrastructure whether it's Road roads highways Transit um and uh by the time it sun actually formally sunsets it's expect to generate another $217 million in revenue for the county um as some of you might be aware in 2022 there was an attempt to pass an extension of measure T at fail and so now we're working on a new measure ENT for 2024 in November um one of the big factors in 2022 uh was that it did not contain a Sunset date it was consider a Perpetual tax would never expire um the uh renewal effort for 2024 will specify a Sunset date um and uh one of the big elements of our Outreach currently is putting together and we recently completed the formation of a steering or close to completing the formation of a steering committee led by citizens not you know elected officials but actual citizens from across all fives oral districts to guide the determination of the Sunset date but also the expenditure plan to benefit at all communities across County um currently we're going through and reaching out to organizations and and agencies like this school district um the next step for us is is building out our steering committee and finishing it off um four of the five districts we have full membership including this supervisorial District district five has a Full Slate of of Representatives uh that you can contact and we'll be providing information as far as meetings as they go along um and not only do we have a full wait we also have two alterat that are serving in their place they can't make a meeting so we're very excited about the level of participation here in the foots um being able to to get a a real good Mount representation on ouring committee for met team moving forward because there is a lot of impact for this community um our first meetings are set to start this month um we'll have two first two for the the Final close out of the year in person L some digitally or virtually um we will have one mobile meeting that will not be held in you know on the valley floor but will be elsewhere in County um I will know just for you know you guys are to deal with this a lot this is not a is not considered um inherent public meetings in terms of round out compliance um but the committee members are going to be hearing from uh the local agencies that service the incorpor cities but also the county as a whole to get a feel for the regional impact of measure T and the benefits it's drawn currently and how it can move forward um the the big Focus long range for this committee before the summer of 2024 is figuring out where to pull money and where to divert to direct money uh for uh you know the next potentially 20 to 30 years in terms of how tax revenue is brought in to improve our roads and improve our our transportation infrastructure um after the conclusion of uh their work um we'll have some workshops around the county including up here in oers uh to provide um a public review of the expens your plan potentially tweaking it a little bit is to be responsive to the public as much as humanly possible um and then the proposed measure with this expenditure plan will be pole tested um through a scientifically about Po and then presented to the mctc uh board and then each member agencies of the the Incorporated cities and the board supervisors um and then just the last item I have for you all is our initial polling update which is just anide kind of a blueprint of where the pulse of the county is in terms of measure te um and a little bit of update further update on our education efforts will be held on November 29th at the mctc board meeting Ina um it'll be at 3 P.M it's their uh in person and also available on Zoom if you'd like to tune in I highly recommend it the future M county is really built on its roads and it Pathways forward and so we really you know encourage as much participation as humanly possible and and so I thank you guys so much for giving me the time to make a presentation and I'm available for questions if you have any um I know this is usually a time where we make presentations not a lot of feedback but if you have questions on no questions no questions plank question is do you have written what you spoke about yes so included on included on today's agenda packet is a fact sheet about our current the current process in terms of what we've been doing a little bit of background on the past measure T additionally we can uh there the bottom of that uh back sheet is a contact for Kendall flun who is the Project Lead from me if folks are watching online or here in the if have additional questions please feel free to reach out to her directly or reach out to Patricia Taylor who is the executive director of mad County M County okay I guess I have to ask the question so what specifically does the Bass Lake School District out well I mean there's a lot actually the biggest one obviously is a road they get to the schools themselves but also supports for uh your transportation infrastructure through school buses and and regional Bus programs Transit programs and even the bigger one is is the preparedness for evacuation RS in the event of wildfires here in the region it's more of a regional impact but for us the biggest thing is ensuring that you there's an understanding that every piece of the man County tree of government so to speak all branches have a piece to play in terms of our transportation infrastructure yeah so do we have any local say on our portion of it not us but this community up here yeah absolutely you so you have you have uh four fledged members on the uh steering committee you also have two additional alternates who are really there to so to speak carry the torch for the needs of this community you know in the past a lot of times us expenditure plans in M County and other what we of self-help counties they're done by you know elected officials who may not be as in tune with what individual constituent needs are and so the Viewpoint in our plan and and pushing a citizen eling committee is the people themselves have Representatives who are people they are you know they're neighbors of yours who are able to actually provide real insight into what they feel are the needs of their neighborhood or their Community um in terms of improving the roads or improving transit or whatever elements of infrastructure is needed for the next 20 to 30 years well we um are as our place to find out who those people representing our area so I can't actually I asked before I came here because I did not have our initial roster I was able to ask was representing you guys in District and it is scroll here membership for your uh district is uh Jennifer Simmons Russell Shaw Mark Reed Bruce gray and then you have I think actually three alternates was incorrect I'm sorry one is Ron the Salisbury um Dan Mets and there is a third who name I don't have actually but I was told there's a third alternate on top of that so you have quite a few members this is I will say in term of participation of the five supervisorial districts District Five is very engaged very responsive and we're very excited to work with them to come up with a blueprint that'll help the county as a whole but also be responsive to the needs up here okay there is an issue with our roads you know there's a lot of potholes and problems and a very important evacuation road which is 425b which is just sprad up to the road uh that becomes a one lane Winding Road and there's a lot of poles trees that still have not been removed so so it's very dangerous that that can be accessed no absolutely that's a priority it is and it's ensuring that we presently have for evacuation R like that you know is is a top priority of mctc and and partnering with you know a number of other agencies that handle the total tonnage of of managing those these roads is incred very very important but also making sure that we have additional infrastructure rure in the long term to ensure that as the this area grows which it it will we have additional routes and and Pathways to get people evacuated in the event of natural disaster so that's kind of our twofold you know work is what are we doing currently in terms of making sure that those WS are clear making sure it's not you know a complete Hazard trying to get out of the disaster itself but also making sure we have additional RS to make to get people evacuated in case of La fire any other questions how how are you guys collecting data on what the citizens are curious about like you know Diane just yeah expressed concern is it incumbent upon us to reach out to the people that are on the board to express like what we know like the routes we're driving every day and if we have concerns or is there a hotline so there's there's a number of methods for a you know we have we have these steering committee meetings which are an opportunity for members of the public to chime in on what they may see the steering committee just don't which happens is you know as you guys are well aware it happens here at Schoolboard level too a lot happens and parents are raising concerns um another piece of is is us coming to you which is why I'm here today and I'm very grateful you know to truste clity for telling me because that's a tomorrow I'm going to have a phone call with mctc staff and say what are we currently doing in this area what's the you know what's the current plans what are we going to do longterm to address that um so part of is is us actually coming to you that's why I'm here today ordinarily in the past we we've sought out an extension on me te we've never been here we've never been in the school board meeting and talk to people because we just you know we're like you as Bo pres I said it's sometimes hard to see the connectivity conect isssue between the school board and transportation measure but it's pretty deep because if you know we're not able to drive on the roads you can't get to school we have bigger problems if our kids aren't you know in school and aren't in class so um that's kind of one part of this is getting a little bit of feedback as we present you know what the you know long range vision is for meas te hearing some of the concerns and being able to bring them back to the steering committee on our own as the Consulting team is a very important part of it but also being able to participate in those meetings I highly you know recommend you do so if you have real concerns there's no better person to hear from than your neighbor that's kind of my VI did you say Mark Reed was on one of those correct he's one of he'll be all [Laughter] over all right can you I saw Jennifer S Mark Reed Rhonda Salsbury I missed the others it was she was anate I [Music] yeah okay thanks and when was that next meeting uh November 29th is the uh is our next mctc board meeting which will kind of provide the other rout for soliciting feedback is also you know public opinion following you know it's no better way to get a snapshot of all County through a poll which we've done just to get an assessment an initial assessment of what people think of measure T what they think of this performance what they think about a future measure and so we'll be presenting some of that polling data then um I will confirm our first during committee meeting date um and then future ones I'll be able I'll kind of make sure we are keeping all VI priz of those dates as they come forward so you're able to attend share it with your neighbors and and constituents as well will you be coming back and like updating us or is that going to be like email or written yes I'll have some email updates to the to the district as far as some preliminary and can sort of inter room updates as far as meetings go um once we have kind of a set framework of the of the uh measure principally the Sunset date which again is there will be a firm Sunset date we just don't know what it's going to find us following on um and then uh the bigger one is once we are have a preliminary expenditure plan that's really the next big opportunity which again the the span between now and then is the Cher of the public will they weigh in on what are the spending priorities for the next 20 to 30 years um after that point we we will be coming back with workshops but also probably again supplemental presentations to you know boards like like this one just to provide a little bit of an out an outline of what's going to impact here specifically not so much the county as a whole um but it allows you to get kind of a snapshot of work Crow so that is that is kind of our plan after we have aure plan to circulate anything else perfect thank you guys so much it's been a pleasure and I'm looking forward to working with you all as we develop this measure for November 24th okay um well next moving on to the consent agenda as we consider the consent agenda I would like to pull item 4D from the consent agenda tonight um the the item dealing with the school psychologist salary schedule it would not be good practice to look at any adjustments to the salary schedule until the collective bargaining process with our labor groups has been completed and U and and also look at the impact that that would have on other positions within the district so I'd like to pull that from the consider agenda tonight that going to be you wanting to pull it indefinitely Or just till next month no pending the outcome of arain collective bargaining uh it'll come back when when the collective bargaining process has been completed um it could be in a different U with different figures in all likelihood as a result of the collective bargaining process but because we have not engaged our labor groups yet we need to pull this until that process is complete do we need a motion on that we just okay I I think that's that's a good idea um as far as the consent agenda goes other than fing item D do we have a motion to approve I make a motion to approve the consent agenda I'll I'll second okay all right any discussion well I just had to question about I I was reading of the the disposition of the Surplus items and you know the all the water bottle filling stations I guess they can't use them anymore or something the ones that we bought they um with the minerals and the chemicals in the water up here they are not able to filter that out um which we weren't aware of and then when we contacted the plumbing company about getting them installed we found that it wasn't going to work um so if we dispose of them we can auction them off like we've done with other items and we can probably um make back the revenue we spend on them and we're going to put that towards the vehicle we got to the student that's awesome that was my main thing was like we're not just gonna get rid of it we're g to try and sell it because it's usable even things we've sold on the auction website that are very um ancient let's go for good value because people use the parts and so I Robert and I are very confident that you recapture what to spend on those and we were disappointed we really wanted to be able to put them but you couldn't put them outside um and then it wasn't going to work inside with the plumbing so we got ahead of ourselves getting them hoping that we could use them so what are we going to use for water refill stations can we just well right now everybody all the classrooms have we get water delivered from sparklets and there's water dispensers we were just trying to cut back on that um just with the unique chemicals and minerals we have up here in the water it doesn't work okay and just to clarify that the board approval of the disposition of surplus items has to occur before can list the items for sell so this is a critical step for us to get to that point okay oh and my only other question was the um so the Phoenix and I I looks like some of these universities were bought out or sold or are these people were so there was a whole thing with the um well you your little okay can hear me now thank you okay um well I was reading about the university iix like partnership with I mean it's like Utah or Idaho I don't the the items listed I and J those are are typical uh contracts between universities and a district because in the past we have had student teach teers come from those programs and we have to have these contracts in place before we can allow them to come on to our campus in our classrooms to perform their their clinical experiences um and so these get renewed annually right okay so it's people who've been doing business with even though yes they are under didn't you read that too yeah it's University of Phoenix and it sounds like University of idah purchased them and it's a nonprofit and so I was like is this in result to the purchase or is this somebody we've already been doing business with and that's all separate yeah we we have done bus we've had student teachers come through US prior to this year from the University of f as well as we currently have a student teacher from Western Governors in our working in our district AR credential those my other questions uh I just wanted to publicly acknowledge the donations that we got oh some great donations this month it's okay um yeah we got $265 from the Brendan gation and ,000 from True Value for the garden so you I just wanted to mention those that we're very fortunate that we have such a a giving Community good and u i remember asking in the past if I if I needed where I should because I was thinking maybe I should just send a thank you card for these peopley told me can you put your mic closer now do something that very good okay send thank you for all donations all donations that are accepted by the board we send thank Youk so that's what I thought so any [Music] discussion technical difficul we're having some technal we could share light on that is true I have no more questions okay okay um we need to vote on that have a motion agenda and second all right roll call vote I I I I and I all [Music] right moving on to monthly items and financial reports we need the warrants [Music] warrants coming okay anyone have any on the I do U I was happy to see that we are replacing the ad batteries I think I us of course and then I had a question about the Catalina trip deposit is that for oci only or is was also participating last I heard it was O was looking into openings for dates so and then um I'm happy for the district office to get their roof and windows it's exciting a stand up desk that's all I and I'd submit a question to Tara who always extremely prompt and post about page two the 2023 it's a casbo CBO Symposium that was yes that's an annual conference that I attend with all different colleagues from around the state that I look forward to but I actually due to a family issue I'm not able to attend so it's already been cancelled and refunded but that's the one comment and then I mentioned about the code stat conference yes and that's for our space our special ed uh software that we use for all our Student Records I um that that conference we had Genie and Taran and Nicole attend because they are the ones who are using space the most and they learn a lot of tips and tricks and updates to the software um I know it's pretty helpful people use St sure it's for St and for Ed join and they do several programs I also emailed terara um on page6 um about you'll love this one it was a 2023 24 GPB PS PTP to MC SOS what was what is that that was on page six six or page six um it's payment ID 4726 it's just our regular internet line that runs from the county turns out it's just an internet line but that's a lot of acon it's always on there every month it's actually if you look at the bottom it's page five I know sorry no there it's always different from computer Compu on the paper the paper page is like as all because of the cover okay yeah then I also asked about the Ruckus renewal which uh was on page 10 at least on the computer was on page 10 um but that is our Wi-Fi access yeah so if you ever go to one of the sites and go to join the network it will have a little login box that says Ruckus so that's what manages our users with a Wi-Fi so those were my questions okay um my question do I have to do this my question was um well the district nurse Consulting there was two one on page three and then one on page well three at the bottom um and then there was another one [Music] on yeah we have a weekly invoice um we have a a credential school nurse that we contract with due to Anita retiring and Jordan is um just starting on a preliminary credential so when we started out the school year we were working with this agency because you have to have a credential school nurse on staff um to sign help plans and other between these other things so now Jordan is going to be up and running but we're contracted um this school nurse through December um and she just works part-time usually about 10 to 15 hours a week but so there's a weekly invoice for that and she's been at mumas on Fridays and she kind of goes around Sight to site but um as backup which has been good too when um Jordan has been out or had clinical hours we have a nurse on so that 27,000 or $2,700 is a ter which one are you looking well if you look at page 8 of 12 and also the same for page 3 of 12 well 3 of 12 is [Music] $2,926 and then um page eight of 12 says $2,764 for Consulting so I wasn't sure if that always the same amount of no it isn't and sometimes it'll be two invoices it just depends when it was processed so it could have been six days instead of three days they just kind of lump it together and they send us an invoice but I could I could send you invoices if you would like I was I was just curious to I thought maybe it was a monthly bill the same amount yeah and and like the FED one that I asked about which is there's about five of those in here they all seem to be the same like $5,080 um but there's one on page 42 there's one there's five I think in here for that same amount spech person has a consistent amount of hours so we and the the nurse isn't like sometimes sometimes right so the $5,080 is for the consultant for the speech pathologist for like the weekly they invoice US Weekly as well and it just depends how many hours it'll fluu but we had two people contracted last year and um this year we just have the line of each mythologist because one of ours came back to half time okay so are we going to is that going to be a plan I mean do we think will be about like $20,000 a month it's going to be throughout the year because of the case okay that's all I have okay any other questions move to approve I'll second okay roll call vote I I I and I okay moving on to the hearing of persons wishing to address the board we have two I don't believe it's on any agenda item um you have three minutes Nancy har [Music] my name is Nancy Harlin and I've had seven students children come through and M that was one of the things that was going to thing um anyway seven kids come through the the school School assistant here this high school and all my grandchildren 17 so that's the reason why I'm standing up at the board meetings now and I would like to thank whoever was responsible for providing the M because I'm hard of hearing and according to the Disability Act thank you so much for providing me um the microphones for yourselves that I can he you and for me my voice too and November's a one of of Thanksgiving and so I would like to thank Steve high for being very professional wearing a suit and I'd also like to thank Heather Archer because um on Thursdays I come to W school to teach Good News Club and I see her in action on those days and uh she's very professional she handles emergency situations and crises on a daily basis and I think that uh she should we congratulated for um loving on the children and protecting them and she does a very good job thank you um I want you to know that um I pray for you and for wisdom and making a lot of decisions because there's a lot of responsibilities that you have and so not only I'm praying for you that there's a group called moms in prayer that meets every Monday and we also pray for you for wisdom and for help and facing all the difficult decisions that you need to make I would like to be notified um when the um that we had last week where so many people were here about the parental rights of notification if that should I know it was ped because there's a lot of other lawsuits that throughout the whole state that address this very same issue notifying parents and so I'm hoping that you will be able to revisit that and um let other people know that it's still under consideration so thank you very much for your time and God bless you all thank you okay and Lesley Peterson [Music] hi guys I'm just here to um say hello and to invite you to our next week's Garden lessons super exciting we have the master food preserves Earth people that came this week and um they are teaching students about food and where it comes from and how you like they do a lot more of the like the Canon and things like that that so I have some pictures I'll I'll post on on our appearance for um for you guys to see too but the 14th and 15th we have classes again they start at 8:30 to 11:30 I'd like to invite you all to come out and help it's with our um fourth and fifth graders in our sixth and eth grade which is kind of a big group so I'm sure Belinda would love if you can come um and then um the fourth and fifth graders are continuing to work with our um learn about irises and Carolyn Hoover is like the iris Queen and she's been doing a fantastic job with them and we were able to find some new uh recycling an Old Stage we just turned it upside down and it's built really well so now we have about four five more raised beds so our garden is growing so come on out can you send us an email on that yes thank you I'm going to apologize because those are my work days I can't make [Music] it okay I would okay all right thank you you're welcome um okay we have one action item resolution 247 delegating authori to entering enter into contract subject boic this is a a new resolu resolution excuse me for our board um but it really is a resolution that um doesn't bestow new powers we do an annual resolution at our either the last meeting in June or the first meeting in August of each year delegating authorities similar to these to both Tara and myself to conduct the business of the district um but we've learned in recent weeks that this puts us in even better position um legally to enter into the types of contracts that are listed in the middle of this resolution um so really the resolution is is one that I'm putting before you tonight that will become part of the annual resolution process that will be coming to the board every June or every August with the other resolution um it just there have been issues in other districts in the state who didn't have this resolution that specifically stated superintendent has these these Powers um every contract that we enter into still comes before the board for approval um sometimes it's after the fact just like what you approved a little while ago with the um the contracts for um services with our University partners for student teachers um that I sign send back and then bring it to you for approval after so that's the standard practice it's just we haven't had this resolution uh prior to now and it came up through discussion with cdos in M County which then spurred or brought a discussion with terara myself hey does are other resolution actually cover these items does it not and in some districts it's been questioned whether it does or doesn't so this just seals it yes it does um so it it will become an annual one that comes like I said when the other one does after to conduct the business of the District of start of each fiscal year when I went through it I thought well Randy's already doing all this what are we doing pretty much it just removes any legal doubt so we're just officially giving you the authority to do what you're doing pretty much pretty much all right approval of resolution 247 delegating authority to enter into contracts subject to board ratification I'll second okay roll call vote I I I I and I all right you may continue doing what you're doing thank you I think uh a lot of information items first one first reading of proposed board policy administrative regulations board bylaw and exhibit revisions uh September this is our September batch um in a typical year we wouldn't receive a September batch but this year we did uh we typically would receive an October batch which this year we did so we have two months in a row of new batches that have come as a result of and as you read through these a result of a lot of new legislation that has been signed to law as part of the education Omnibus Bill which is always part of the new fiscal year budget um and so U this one that is we're considering right now is first reading um what we have attached for you um spent a lot of time providing summaries for each of the board policies U or regulations bylaws and Exhibits gave that in the summary we have given you the um the proposed items with the corrections where you can see what's been lined out what's highlighted is new and then also the final draft once you remove all of that the final draft is left so you have all of that information for all of the September items and then and the next item will be for the October batch as well um we haven't uh been going through these item by item I'm happy to answer questions you had them before you um this is for first reading and discussion only so I'm happy to answer any question that you may have on any of these and just to be clear when csba sends these out these are coming from the attorneys representing csba so these have been legally scrubed right I don't some of them say final draft yes and some don't correct okay um you have what is with the changes proposed and then you have the final draft version for each one and we're examining the final draft if we only included the final draft you'd be sitting go okay what's changed and that's why I gave you the version that shows all of the changes as well and those have the notes from the attorneys as to citing what law it is specific to it's a lot but I feel like they're telling us to do it for a reason so I mean they're citing the law and the Ed code and yeah so it seems to be like a no-brainer I for the most part they got more things taken out than added this for this any other questions comments and I don't have any questions I just want to make a comment on the October batch uh policy 61 61.1 it has to do there okay so wait yeah we're still on [Music] September okay else talking okay so the October batch I just want to make a comment policy 6161 point11 uh which has to do supplementary instructional materials and it says here I'll read the first real quick the governing board encourages the use of supplementary instruction materials to enrich the curriculum and enhance student learning such materials should be aligned with District goals curriculum objectives and academic standards and shall supplement and not supplant the use of Bo adopted basic instruction materials that serve as the primary learning resources and so as I was reading through that it makes reference to uh these additional supplemental items being uh under education code 243 which I thought was wonderful and I wanted to read that and I hope everything is an alignment with this statement uh so California Education Code 2335 read is just coule short paragraphs that each teacher shall Endeavor to impress upon the minds of the peoples the principles of morality truth justice patriotism and true comprehension of the rights duties and dignity of American citizenship and the meaning of equality and human dignity including the promotion of harmonious relations kindness towards domestic pets and the Humane treatment of living creatures to teach them to avoid idleness profanity and falsehood and to instruct them in manners and morals and the principles of a free government and then B one sentence here says each teacher is Al also encouraged to create and Foster an environment that encourages peoples to realize their full potential and then is free from discriminatory attitudes practices events or activities in order to prevent acts of hate violence as defined in sub division E of section 233 so I just love this statement and U I think it's it's impressive and it's it's wonderful and all of our curriculum and Library materials and such were according to these uh rules it would be all of our children would have the very most excellent education so want to read that thank you yeah someone did their school work on that when I read that I I was struck by the the sequence of words actually the encourage en Rich enhance almost one sentence and then some supplement and some plant in another language I thought boy someone college student and give this assignment use these words in the paragraph it was good thank you Dian anyone else okay I have something [Music] um courses of study um item on on 6143 um item six talks about health principles and practices of the individual Steve are you in the policy or the regulation 61 I'm in the regulation she said yes item six this comes up throughout the whole thing then the sentence on E says the effects of alcohol narcotics drugs and tobacco upon the human body and I wondered why didn't they include marijuana and I think that should be included and when I when I checked it out legally they said that marijuana is considered for legislative purposes and legal purposes on narcotic but there's still a lot of people that disagree with that and so I think it should be included separately in there if I have direct and imperal experience that marijuana is addictive and hurts people do you think that's covered under drugs I in my mind I think it's but based on its its designation by the state of California it is included under the term narcotics what narcotics as you just said it's considered narcotics said that and I know that but anyone else reading that that wouldn't know that would think oh well marijuana is cool then you know that's that's fine and so it's I think it should be a little more I think I understand what you're saying because marijuana is now become legal like alcohol is legal and it's not identifying it in this you know I hear you on that yeah it's not that I disagree on Monday going up and getting my daughter out of a a clinic with the bo time for the same thing marijuana psychosis it's not disagree with you at all should be it's just as these pass legal because it's included in the class of Narcotics by the state that's why they've left it under that title of Narcotics yeah well if these aren't subject to revision by the board why are we even looking at that's why they're here like I said I'm not disagreeing with you will the board is to include is we can include yeah that's what I'm wondering so are you wanting us to put marijana I would like it to read something instead of the effects of alcohol narcotics drugs and tobacco upon the human body to say like this the effects of alcohol narcotics including marijuana drugs and tobacco on the human body yeah I think it' be an easy inclusion parenthetically right behind the worde fine but that that same sentence shows up throughout this in several different spots and so we could just re look at that a little bit that's my I guess my input on that right and I know there's people that disagree with [Music] um yeah that's all I have the marial disease how old is that what would you change that STI trans infection infection now not disease STI is what they call maybe is that a class protected class of legal language we could be more explicit yeah if we could just put in parentheses behind that I'm think [Music] thinking Pi we can make we can make any of the changes that that an think about it and if I want to I'm GNA bring it up next month yeah I can include it in the final final dra next month and the way I understand it it's it's we can add language like that because we're not taking away we're adding to so we're not taking away the advice of what the advis we're clarifying under under Mars because they want to make a statement and that's understandable and they think doable okay so I have something else but that's a little bit minor on policy 61 61.1 policy policy yeah [Music] and the the exhibits are great on that but there's there's like I think four or five sheets on this one anyway the very first paragraph is everyone sort of there is it the final draft or the final draft yeah that's all I'm looking at okay the governing board desires that District instructural materials as a whole present a broad spectrum of knowledge and view points accurate accurately reflect and value society's diversity stimulate thought the exploration of ideas and intellectual exchanges and enhance instructor's ability to educate all students through the use of multiple teaching strategies and Technologies in reading through that I realized that the word Technologies was misused there and it should be either modalities or methodologies instead of that word I'm not on the same I'm not I can't find what you're reading Sor 61.1 selection and evaluation of instruction materials first paragraph yeah it's below the blue box it's the first paragraph outside of the blue box oh I was on looking at the final draft because that's where we're at with the process I'm on the I'm on the the one that shows the changes it's still word for word yeah so that's that's just the only thing I I picked up on that because it's your your the strategies and modalities is what you're using to determine what technology you're using you're not teaching through a technology it's just an informatic whole thing almost tell me more about that you're not teaching through a technology tell me more about what you mean about that well you got to listen to it I'll read it again and um the governing board desires that District instructional materials as a whole present a broad spectrum of knowledge and viewpoints accurately reflect and value society's diversity stimulate thought the exploration of ideas and intellectual exchanges and enhance instructor's ability to educate all students through the use of multiple teaching strategies and modalities not the word Technologies as it's written there that's that's just the The Logical flow of that and the word Technologies is actually used later on the same paragraph So it's it's not the right word in now that's all that's all saying well and I would move change that to either the word modalities or methodology looking at the definition of Technology thanks to Mariam Webster technology is the application of conceptual knowledge for achieving practical goals especially in a reproducible way the word technology can also mean the products resulting from such efforts including both tangible tools such as utensil or machines and intangible ones such as software so it's it's become a term that captures everything not just the mechanical technology like these that we have in front of us but also uh the product that comes of it well I know what you're saying so in that use it is used correctly but rather than redefining the word technology the right word which is the modality but we're not redefining it def as it's currently defined we're using it as Curr what does method what do you mean by methodologies or modalities how different methods it goes with the strategies strategies and methods of teaching but then as the Technologies later on in the same but if we use if we change to use those words then we're leaving out we're leaving out the product of that word it comes up later it's just it's just the wrong word that Contex that's my point seems like there's a lot of lawyers that thought it was [Laughter] okay well tonight's a discussion and we can all think about it and then next month we can decide if it's important for us to change it right or let you know between now being an on this it's okay like it is but since it's going to be in writing and in our policies just like to see correct so would that be something that we would have to address next meeting and we would vote on that correct okay so we'll think about it this month and then okay so I think I finally found the one and it in 6.
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Bo board member sh boson and myself board member NN are present uh during close session we'll be discussing uh student discipline issues um related to student suspension student exposion or student exposion readmits we'll also be having a conference with our negotiator in regards to CCA ctab teamour Local 150 and management we'll also be discussing any Public Employee discipline dismissal or release issues um there are no public comments on Clos session items so at this time we will now adjourn to close session at six o'clock pm thank you uh we will now rejourn back to uh Open session at 7:39 p.m. trustee stre voson can you lead us in the flag salute please sure thank you for that and uh trusty Bo can you lead us in the district mission statement yes berasa Union School District provides all students the skills to become lifelong Learners and successful 20 first century Global Citizens thank you and trustee jenez can you lead us in the Norms of the Board of Trustees yes uh the Norms of the board uh the bars Union School District Board of Trustees agree to focus on the best interest of students at all times be respectful listen openly address problems and process not persons keep each other informed maintain confidentiality work toward the future learn from the past equal participation from all members stay on task thank you for that and uh there was no action taken during Clos session now is there a motion to adopt the agenda I move to adopt the agenda second it's been moved and seconded all in favor of this motion say I I I motion passes that's 5 to zero uh we will now move on to uh item seven are there any public comments on consent calendar agenda items if there's none we'll move on to the consent calendar is there a motion on the consent calendar move to adopt second it's been moved and adopted I'm sorry it's been moved and seconded all in favor of this motion say I I I okay motion carries 5 to zero we will now move on to uh comments from the public on non-agenda items if there are no comments we'll go ahead and move on to our first report of the night uh Dr frenes can you introduce 10 yes thank you uh this evening I would like to welcome welcome Tom Williams of enrollment projection Consultants EPC he uh comes each year to provide us an update regarding our enrollment projections and all the movement that's happening around the barasa community thank you Tom we welcome you to our meeting this evening Tom I'm going to stop you for one second I'm not sure if your mic is working absolutely every time there you go thank you work now good good okay for grad is going to focus on on this table before I get to the bottom line numbers and that's TK and K but first of all Fifth and eighth back from 2016 to 2018 you had amounts on the 800s in 8th grade and amounts in the 700s in fifth grade so just graduating those eighth grade amounts out and those fifth grade amounts in caused significant Middle School decline then by the time we got to 2019 to 2021 you had amounts in the 700s in eighth grade but you started getting amounts in the 600s in fifth grade so again just the rolling out of those numbers 700's going out 600's coming in was causing a middle school Decline and that's why from 2016 to 2019 there down at the bottom you'll see that you lost more students at the middle school level than actually the elementary level despite having only half as many grades 229 versus 210 um at the same time the reason the elementary numbers were going down is because in kindergarten you had had amounts in the 700s that then fell in the 600s the same time amounts that were slightly larger were graduating from fifth grade so that caused both grade levels to be going down but more significantly on a per grade basis at the middle school level since 2019 both grade levels have lost significant student numbers much more so in the past you'll notice that the elementary amount increased by essentially 2 and a half times whereas the Middle School amount less than doubled none less nonetheless on a per grade basis it was more significant the Middle School level again if you look at 8th grade you're seeing amounts in 700s versus amounts in 600s in the fifth grade what changed last year was for the first time we had a smaller amount in e8th grade than we had in fifth grade and that's a significant factor and that's the uh yellow highlighted 688 and 653 that's the first time in a long long time you actually had more kids in fifth grade than 8th grade and so just rolling those amounts forward gave you 697 in sixth grade this year and that's a significant chunk of why you grew at the middle school level you notice for next year we got another small eighth grade and that's why I don't have a decline for next year at the middle school level what also happened uniquely at the middle school level this year is you gained from 5ifth to sixth and from sixth to 7th and from 7th to 8th which you hadn't done also in quite a long time so there was trends that really changed the Middle School level um compared to the recent past and even compared to my projections that I wasn't expecting however at the elementary level if you look at the gray the uh beige highlighted kindergarten figures you went from the 700s from 2016 to 2019 the 600s in 2020 and 21 to the 500s since then that's a huge plummet at the same time TK prior to this year went from the 140s to the 110 so you were having significantly lower numbers coming at at the bottom end and uh the reason you had any gain at the elementary level this year was because the big increase in TK a big chunk of reason reason for was because you went from five months of Eligibility birth eligibility to nine months of birth eligibility obviously that's not gonna be repeated you're not gonna be able to gain another four months because you already have nine months eligible so going forward we have uh you'll see later smaller birth numbers and smaller kindergarten numbers which means also on a per month basis birth month basis the TK numbers will go down as well so even though we'll expand to 12 months of birth eligibility after next year we also have smaller numbers of kids coming up in that amount so the reasons that you gained at the elementary level this year are essentially erased after this year does that make sense to everybody next slide please okay going forward top row you'll see we got 665 again in 5ifth and 637th in eth so that's why for next year I've got a 21 student gain you see down there in the bottom yellow at the middle school level simply because we got a bigger amount coming in from fifth that's the last time we have that happen in one year 2026 we have essentially the same amount in all other forecast years we have a much larger amount graduating from e8th and coming in from fifth um I shouldn't say much larger slightly larger amount but the trends to the grades now appear to be picking up some kids from fifth to sixth and sixth to seventh seventh eth that's why I have a very small loss at the middle school level going forward despite having some larger amounts the only real significant loss of Middle School level is when the current sixth graders graduate from eth in two years three years excuse me um the big difference what's happening in these numbers is what's down in K this is based on Trends in your neighborhoods and especially the birth data you'll see that whereas before we were talking about kindergarten numbers in the 700s a few years ago I'm now projecting amounts in the 400s that is a Monumental shift so as low as the current numbers are after next year they're going to be even lower and TK grows a little bit because you expand to 12 months but also with smaller numbers coming in at the kindergarten level that means there's always obviously less TK students on a per month basis at the TK level does that make sense to everybody bottom line is I'm projecting significant losses at the elementary level totaling about 700 kids in five years and only about 77 kids in the Middle School level in five years the shift is toy the element and it's all based on what's going on in kindergarten in particular next slide please okay as you've heard me say before well maybe Jah hasn't but everybody else has heard me say a million times before um all my analyses are based on where your students live by housing type by general price range Etc not because I care if a kid is Rich or poor but because I'm trying to understand where the changes are happening or not happening and then evaluate the likelihood for those Trends to continue and in your District the places that had new housing going on not only in the last year but in the previous three or four years still some trends of gaining kids that's Vincy Park and Northwood the entire rest of the district is in Decline and in the areas as you'll see slide in a minute the areas that have the more affordable housing are in the more severe decline because of that in the last year on that column on the left you'll see Northwood added 39 K5 this excludes TK added 39 kids living in its attendance area in the Elementary grades um Vincy Park added 36 but we had Brook tree lose 51 or more than 10 % we had Majestic Way lose 33 and toyan I highlighted in 20 even though it's not officially 25 amount because that's almost 10% of the kids in Toyon as well so we had some significant losses going in particularly in the most affordable parts of the district but also an existing housing as a whole in the district um and the only place you're gaining at all was where the new housing has been located in the last couple years going forward again we still have more new housing going in Northwood we have a little bit going on in Summerdale the next couple years so Summerdale has essentially no no loss Northwood has more of a gain and the rest all losses and some of those losses based on what I'm expecting in kindergarten compared to what it's graduating from fifth grade living in those attendance years of your kids we got losses of 40 for Brook Tree 47 for Lan view 65 Majestic Way 58 for Ruskin um and 34 for Noble just in the next two years again that's big fifth grades going out and small kindergartens coming in I want to point out one thing about North wood because the attendance boundary changed uh three years ago between Northwood Brook tree and Lan view you had a lot of kids grandfathered at Northwood many of those kids have graduated out now we're down to just a net gain of 27 kids at Northwood from the grandfather kids well those will be those will be graduating out in the next two years so even though I'm projecting a resident student gain of 41 kids in terms of the attendance at Northwood it may be a wash with the loss of the net gain of kids graduating out does that make sense to everybody you following me okay right now in grades four and five in particular we have kids grandfather and I think everyone knows what grandfather means still at Northwood because they were already enrolled at Northwood when we made the attendance boundary change the next two years that net gain at 27 is going to go away so even though I'm having 41 more kids living in the Northwood attendance area in two years it's almost a wash from what might be the enrollment at Northwood everybody F on that so I'm not worried about that gain at Northwood I'm more worried about the losses and some of the other attendance areas one last thing to comment which you all know you've got some magnet programs particularly cherrywoods Mandarin dual Merion program so its numbers are actually majority of its kids come from outside its attendance area and because those kids come from outside its attendance area obviously attendance areas that those kids came out of show a net loss in the intradistrict patterns next slide please okay at the middle school level again the only new housing recent has been in the moral attendance area so it had growth this year by 59 kids got some more projected growth in the next two years the other two attendance areas have a modest amount of decline forecast in the next two years again this is a huge shift from the trend in the past last year from two years ago to last year for example all three of those attendance lost significant student numbers but that's bounding me out now next slide please okay again I do all my analyses based on where your kids live could I have records of your kids going back to 2 one by each of these housing types and general income levels and this table's been split into three parts but I'll just summarize real quickly the more affordable attached housing meaning apartments condos town houses and plexes has had the more significant losses especially at the lowest grades and the next most affordable category the the more affordable detached homes also had significant losses especially in lowest grades the places where you where you were basically stabilized in K2 this year were the more expensive housing categories and to display that in this first category you'll see that in the last three years in K2 um these units lost 61 kids out of a total that's only in the 260s that's a significant percentage loss in K2 and in the last year alone it lost 25 so it went down by 11% in the last year and 22% in the last three years of kids in K2 in just these this housing category that's a significant loss in three years's time and a significant loss in one year's time when I get into the upgrade attached are mainly tow houses and some Duets more expensive housing that lost 97 over the last three years but only one of that 97 occurred in the last year in K2 does everybody see where I am on the table so the net difference in the last year is actually 0% at K2 it's stabilizing at a lower level but nonetheless stabilizing unlike in the more affordable units next slide please when we get into the more affordable detached homes again you lost 146 but out of a much larger number than the apartments um you fell from 920 to 619 over the last seven years but most of that fall from 920 actually occurred before the pandemic hit and that was again I think as I've said before related to the price of housing it's just hard for the more affordable housing types had um moderate income families and it's very hard now for moderate income families to move into those units at the current prices so you already had a significant decline going on before the pandemic hit but it got really bad since then too you dropped from 76 825 to 765 and in the last year you lost another uh 79 students in K2 or again 11% so the more affordable housing in the district is where you're getting the bigger hit in K2 both recently and going forward in the forecast when I get into what I call the middle income detached housing it lost 72 kids in K2 in the last three years but only seven of that was in the last year next slide please and when I get to more expensive housing you actually had a nominal net gain in K2 in the most expensive housing in the last year so it's basically in the LA in the the last couple years you've had the declines going on in tk8 across the board but in K2 it's been concentrated in your most affordable housing and that has comparable impacts on the attendance areas where that housing is concentrated next slide please okay these are what I call communitive advancement rates you've heard me discuss this before um this is evaluating the grade to grade Trends as they cumulate how many kids in kindergarten from the existing house neighborhood we in first grade the next year in second grade the year after that third grade the year after that and I evaluate how they Evol evolve through the pattern and what has happened in all the districts I did data four 20 plus is everybody had the rates go just plummet during the pandemic for obvious reasons and we went if you look in the rightmost colored column you're relatively affordable and IM attached from 2016 to 2019 actually gained kids as they graduated up from from first grade to eth grade nominally but they gained kids and they were actually higher than was happening in other districts in general during the pandemic it went from 1.03 to 0.58 and 0.55 it halfed in other words half those kids were going to be gone between first grade and eighth grade if those rates continued over a seven-year period this year it bounced all way back up to 1.14 it's just an anomaly I think based on you lost so many kids during the pandemic that a few of them coming back caused an abnormal rate this year I point this out because it tells me really the most accurate rates to consider going forward are actually ones all the way back from 2016 to 2019 the rates that happened in the years since then were so erratic that they're unlikely to to be repeated in the future same thing goes for upgrade attached it went from 74 down to 042 bounced it back up to 08 you'll see the um when I get down into the even the middle income sfd it fell from 1.0 to 081 and back up to 1.2 so again I think the rates from 2016 to 2019 with some modification of what happened last year are the more accurate rates to apply to the forecast does that make sense to everybody again that's a judgment call I've never done this in I've been doing this since 85 and I've never been dealing with a rate that I had to go back four years in time with to get but the rates are just so erratic during the pandemic that they're really meaningless for the forecast and that's a big judgment Co next slide please okay this is probably the most important table other than the projected numbers that I'm presenting it's a complex table that compares the burst in zip code 95132 which is the only zip code enti in this District um with what showed up in kindergarten five years later from that zip code and the assumption is that the trend that happened within that zip code part of your District probably applies to the rest of the district as well um and if you look back in when I say 2011 bursts that's actually prated from the last three months of 2010 the first nine months of excuse me the last four months of 2010 first uh eight months of 2011 to better correlate to kindergarten five years later you'll see that there was 421 births in 2011 and 5 years later you had 394 BD kindergarteners from that zip code that's a 94% corative ratio that's a really strong ratio especially when you consider some kids go after private schools that's an amazingly High ratio actually in 2012 uh you had 462 61 bursts in 2013 you had 479 so all the bursts up there are in the 400s all the way from 2011 to 2017 so the burst didn't change that much what did change was the correlative ratio five years later it went from 94 to 89 to 88 to 81 to 76 down to 63 last year and just 60% this year that means 40% of the kids that were born that zip code five years ago did not show up in kindergarten this year and there's no way that's privates that's people that moved out of the district and hopefully we'll get some back but I think we're a lot back so as you look down below in the column in Orange you'll see that all the birth numbers are in the 300s we went from a bunch of birth numbers in the up upper to in Middle 400s to 336 347 and 332 in the three most recent birth years for 95132 that's down over 20% it's actually much more significantly than 20% and that that's hard numbers that's not a forecast that's what actually was born in that zip code according to the county health department so when you go from 479 461 down to 332 and 336 it's a pretty scary drop off and that's really what drives all the Garden forecast here if the current ratio of 60% was repeated with those birth numbers and I don't think it will I think it be above 60% you would have totals in in that zip code in the next five years in the low 200s compared to over 400 in the past you follow me on that everybody see where I am okay that's that's how dangerous those numbers are I don't think they'll go that low but they could next slide please okay new housing um the only developments that are suitable to analyze going forward in the forecast within your District are the mainly market rate developments you really didn't have any below market rate developments built in recent years in the district and out of almost 2,000 housing units that were built in this District in the last decade almost all of which are attached only something like 30 are detached your averaging only seven students in every hundred units that sounds incredibly low and it is incredibly low but I'm finding that all over Silicon Valley what's happening is they're no longer building three and four bedroom apartments intended for families they're building Studios and one-bedrooms and Tiny two-bedroom units intended for singles and childless couples and it's in in other districts actually lower in the Santa Clair District it's one in every 50 units in the orchard district is one in every 50 units so you're actually getting seven in every 100 units you're getting a little bit better ratio but still very low the only slight positive here is with 57 in TK and 51 and 35 and only 35 and 68 it implies they are young families so it may that rate may come up over the first few years of occupation everybody following me on that but still it's probably not get over 0.1 or one student in every 10 units and that's just what's happening because what they're building nowadays you're getting a better result out of in this County out of below market rate housing but still not what many people would think um in two developments i s i mean in four developments I sampled in the Sunnyville Oak glob districts those 460 regular blow market rate units we're averaging essentially um uh two kids in every uh 10 units or one student every five units uh with a distribution again 44 and TK and just 27 68 implies that the unit the student numbers will come up over time but probably will never get a 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but once again look through there the reason I'm going to bring up number three Community oriented because I think you might hear that word or something similar that came out today so be aware of some of these things so I'll let you have a little quick look at that question five is the experiences that you would like to have in your new superintendent you can see it was not a six but you know I don't see a whole lot of sixes so for you to have two is a little bit unusual experience with business and operations of a school district was your number one with a 5.95 power score as you can see what I thought was a little bit interesting on this is that the people that responded on that um experience with business and operations of a school district 47% of your respondents on that question had that as their number one priority you see the way that works number two previous superintendent experience um obviously you can tell me that you can tell me that's something you prefer but I will tell you the chances of one of your top candidates in a have an experience with superintendent probably going to be kind of rare unless somebody is from this area they want to get back you know they have experience in that but uh we're finding in almost every search it's not just Central planes that experienced superintendents are retiring not moving to other positions unless they're going from Central Plains to Salena for you know a theoretical Step Up question six are all of the uh individual responses and you can see only 88 people decided to uh answer a question on that particular uh form um I I'll be real honest with you I was a little nervous that there would be some really scary comments in here there's only one comment in here that I have redacted for the public I did not redact anything that's in front of you because that's your information I have given uh Diane one that if anybody would ask for an open records act I think you feel comfortable in giving this public one that she has because it's got there's a specific name mentioned in here that it's not it's just that's your information not The public's information so that one's been we can take a whole lot of time and read through these uh but I don't think that would do us any good right now but obviously I know you're really interested so please look through those and take some time at home when you have an opportunity to read these some of these you may or may not like uh but you know I I already see Mr worth got a smile on his face so all right and then the last question is the single quality that you would hope the board would use to separate uh one great candidate from another that's question number four that I asked of them today and I have never ever seen this come out any different than what you have honest trustworthy and strong Integrity is always number one always number one now your number two is fiscal operations and management expertise if you remember that kind of was pretty high on one of your other questions so something for you to consider I've done a lot of these um some districts you never hear that once anything about budget it is so far down on the list it doesn't seem to have interest to the folks that respond yours in my opinion seem to kind of Rise Up a little bit you would know why better than I would but I wanted to show tell you that although it may not raise a yellow flag to you it's a little bit not that it hasn't showed up in some districts but a lot of districts you won't even see it it's way down on the list so if we go back to question three if we would please I would like to have anybody that would be willing to say that um yeah I I agree with these no I think flexibility ought to be a lot higher than it is I'd like to make those notes to myself so I'll be aware of what the board so any comments from the board board members about question three I would sure entertain any three or how many it's whatever you tell me now I've highlighted just the two but that's just CU I did that doesn't mean you you might highlight the top four communication for me top three okay the one they had number one would be my number one person say that again Mr worth I want to make sure the number one on here the personal strength do right okay would be really high on your list anyway and it sounds like on yours too and I agree on communication so I've starred that for my information any other comments from board members on transparency too I I if I had my worth I'd almost have transparency and skilled communication almost the same related I think it confuses folks because to me I think they're so closely tied but yes I'll I'll highlight that also I think relationship Builder and collaborative are almost yeah so what's interesting is uh approachable relationship Builder well I better be cautious on say because I don't want you to think the way I'm thinking but I think you will see that on the comments today kind of kind of came up to the top relationship Builder collaborative uh being out in the about within the communities seem to come up kind of high which to me is collaborative build relationship Builder being collaborative yeah okay any other comments on question three before we go to the board I almost feel like that kid first personality that's more the building administrator more so than yeah and obviously you want your superintendent to be have a kids first but unfortunately they don't have the same opportuni as the principles do with kids yeah yeah that's what I definitely miss going from Principal to a superintendent was the kid relationship when I going into a building they didn't know who I was anymore just that guy that shows up once a week or something all right question four is the leadership qualities you can see efficient manager of resources and budget was very high and remember the comment I said earlier that's pretty uncommon not that it doesn't but I'm not sure I've ever seen it number one I may have seen it in the top three on occasion but a lot of times it's in the bottom half and then proactive forward thinker was number two then number three Community oriented involved with the community U I'll just let you look through there but comments about how you feel about this ranking things that you want me to emphasize or something that you think you want me to add or change some priority to I number one for me definitely number one is number one and those of you that said shook your head okay I kind like this day to advocate for school system I think that's probably going to be fairly number six okay any other comments or anything you would like me to be aware of didn't that when we went through the survey a year and a half ago wasn't the efficient manager of resources and budget in the top one or two so it seems to be a consistent thing U and I think I almost once again I don't want to put thoughts in your mind but I think you'll see that from the results of today also have from a year and a half ago do you I do not I meant to grab it I can send it to Diane tomorrow morning she could afford it the the survey that we did a year and a half ago I think it's pretty similar especially the top where the top ones yeah I think we did one and then another Direction yeah which okay all right so question five are the experiences of your Nick superintendent as you can see exper experience with business and operations of a school district and number two which was pretty high uh was previous superintendent experience you can see between two and three there was more than a 1.0 gap between those two that's why I highlighted one and two but once again I'd like to hear from this board who gets to make the ultimate decisions what what you feel about these rankings I guess I wouldn't want somebody to be completely eliminated just because they don't check the box of having previous superintendent experience does anybody else feel similar to that that could eliminate over half so all that add yeah that'd be great want to make sure that it's not like being a tiebreaker for you if everybody's really good and you have one with experience I me it might be something you consider okay I'm not one ever had experience get good you know the uh there's going to be a superintendent of the year in the Kansas and I'll guarantee they started as a principal wen't superintendent might as well be somebody here yeah yeah any other comments on the ones that were a little bit farther down on the priority list that political advocacy I mean is that fall under the deal of like trying to find grants and stuff like you know it want to grow out I wouldn't say that's exactly but I think obviously grants are usually at the state Regional State and National level so it does make some sense done pretty job GRS yeah okay I guess when I think of that too the politial efficacy and stuff it's justum being able to network so I mean if they know other people and relationships can help your District out at times by who you know yeah whether we like that or or not yeah okay then question seven is the one that U I said your your results on question seven were similar to what I see everywhere and I think we all want somebody that's honest trustworthy and got high integrity but any other comments on that question and once again remember number two had something to do with fiscal operations if you notice number four goes back to just what you were saying Mr WTH about advocating for the district at the State national level it came up number four on that list so I would like to say that I cannot imagine I would recommend somebody that's not honest trustworthy or has Integrity I mean I'd sure like to think I missed the vote if I didn't do that so I guess if we look at that almost then says is fiscal allow number one you know to the board I mean that's all what we want number one I know that but i' sure like to think that's going to be a given yeah yeah okay all right so any other comments or questions on this I've made my little notes based on what I've heard from you as a board okay then uh today's session I'd like to hand that out to so kind of unsaid as you are well aware there needs to be a lot of weight put on what I heard today but remember that was only 21 people as opposed to 141 but these are the people that are working for your school district so they have some uh knowledge of the inner workings of your school district so as you can see of the district office and the administrators there was six in attendance and the staff we had 15 I think everybody invited was there we had five from each yeah so each of the buildings had representation uh fun fun group I really appreciated the folks that came how you Pi the group what we did is we had the administrators uh sent out an email to all of the employees to say who would like to be on this group and then if there was more than five then they put them in a hat and picked out a name but we wanted to make sure we had at least one classified position on everyone so we had four certified and one classified exps so that a good way to do it I think that worked out for you well as you can see the first question is the most important leadership and personal qualities that was question number three and three and four in the online survey these tally marks for the first three questions is a group response so I put them in groups of three to four and they had to come to consensus on question number one of the two or three things they would report so the groups they had to they all had their idea and then they had to advocate for whatever they were going to report if we give it uh if everybody has an opportunity end up saying 15 it Waters it down so much and we never come up with Trends I still wouldn't say we came up with Trends because there just wasn't enough people but I think you'll see some things that either match or do not match with what you just saw so most importantly leadership and personal qualities you can see the first four three different groups so we had a tie but look at the look at the one that happens to be alphabetically three different groups had budget they might have said budget they may have said FIS fiscally responsible but I put it in kind of the finance heading three different groups said approachable being visible having a community presence I'm not sure that really came up real high on the community survey I mean it's there but I you know it didn't really rise to the ones that I highlight it doesn't mean it's not important also three was good communicator transparency I put that one together so people said effective Communicator good communicator transparency I put that in there then three was Visionary being a decision maker that can follow through and then one group said trust or being trustworthy and if there's not a tally that means at least one group said it not something I made up so uh one group asked not to be a micro manager and another one said being supportive of their personnel so listening to that one how how how do you feel that one matches with questions three and four of the online survey pretty close is there things you want me to be aware of while I'm starting to V candidates for you I'm surprised that trustworthy didn't pop up a little bit higher yeah um some times it depends on your current leadership on how high that one goes or how low that one goes and try to make them understand that it's not what your current leadership has it's what you want in your new leadership because I don't want if if I'm bad in communication and I'm about ready to be replaced I don't want somebody to say well Gary's a terrible Communicator we need commun that's not what I'm wanting this any any comments on question one all right so then if you look at question two what are the strengths and good points of your district and if I would have stopped there I'd like to think they could have written 100 things really fast but I want to qualify that with that you want the new superintendent to understand and support so the new person doesn't come in and tear something out that everybody loves so as you can see I can't count those tallies I think there're six six different groups said something about a strength of your district is how it's family oriented there's Community Support there's Community involvement uh the students are involved in school and community so I put all those in one heading you may not if I did it tomorrow may not be the same and if you did it might be but in the time I had that's how I put it together so six groups said something that fit within that category then five groups said something that has uh something about the staff so you can see how it was said throughout that it would had something to do with staff or the offerings of which staff allow the kids to have so that's always good to have and this is not a black market anyway of course we had 15 U staff members part of that and you know they it it actually it is hard for teachers to brag on themselves so but it did come out obviously and I think the community would probably say the same and then with four groups said something about your sports and your co-curricular offerings your student programs in school Community your virtual program so Student Center so things that I thought had something to do with your school program your Co or extracurricular program I put into that group so four different groups said something there and then so here's what's interesting remember how high budget fiscally responsible you only had one group that said anything about finances on that question and it's supposed to be a good thing you know to strain so I'll let you make your own judgments on why that might be sometime teachers and staff members when the budget is going pretty well and they don't have to suffer because of the budget it's not on their mind and I know the teachers have had to suffer maybe a year ago but right now I think from what I'm hearing you feel like you're getting on a better Financial track so the teachers are seem to be of that in my mind from the conversations I've all right and then a really interesting thing I I heard one group said it but it's kind of fun to hear that highly qualified alumni are returning to your communities to become residents which is really fun to hear it's really nice to hear so congratulations on that well as you can imagine then question three or one are the critical needs and challenges we only ask for one to two responses on this this is public information that has no reason but a lot of times your candidates will call me what are they wanting in central plains this is public information I'll send this off to a candidate and we don't want the critical needs to out number the good things not that it would but so one to two responses nothing really came up ex and nothing I don't think that would surprise you uh number three or excuse me uh three groups said something about the division between North and South animosity between communities it's interesting because I'll I'll be honest when I came here I thought I was going to hear that a lot more and that's really the only question that I heard it specifically said but it's interesting the teacher groups you got teachers from the North and the South and they were having great time together you know they were working well together uh three is Unity uh that possibly could have went into that one and that would have been six groups you know now that I look at it now I probably could have put that in that group three is budget so you know the last group now it's a critical need all of a sudden so it's interesting which then vastness and diversity of the district not diversity in your student demographic like uh ethnicity and poverty the U diversity of the district you know you're 30 miles apart in some districts and then uh with two groups said things about your deferred M maintenance your infrastructure overc crowding or infrastructure issues I should have had a comma after structure and the overcrowding especially at Hollywood so I don't know about those things but that may or may not be something that you're aware of and the last question the rules changed they did not work in groups they each got to have their own single response to this question so I think you'll count 15 different talles because or 21 different Tes there please don't count cuz I may not got it right so U the question is our separating quality questions the way I answered this is what would be the single trait you would want the board to use to choose between one great candidate and another great candidate I call this the tiebreaker potentially so let's say you have three interviews are all pretty good but two of them are fantastic they fit your criteria and and Hallelujah what are we going to do we got two candidates fear theoretically you know if this is really important to you one's really good with uh I hate to use that one because it's more character issues which I think you're not going to have but let's say one's really good with budget and one's really good at being approachable well which one's got the higher theoretically you might look at that that's how you break the tie but once again this has got to be important while the board thinks because you ultimately get to make that so I guess I'm interested in hearing on that single characteristic uh how you as board members feel about that I would say that yeah someone who has more budget experience Financial experience appro okay any other comments board members I would agree with that okay thank you we were talking about that today uh of course I always be strong in budget but then I don't want to be afraid to go into the office and ask him a question he still has to be approachable about the budet there's a balance there got to be a balance yeah all right so hey thank you for that not to make that more difficult for you no I know the board clerk carries a big weight in school districts I well aware of that all right so let's look at uh salary schedule comparisons I'll hand this out to you folks all right so I did not include your central plane superintendent salary because it's kind of different so right she would have that for you what that total is So what I've done is is put some comparisons together so for an example the first page if you can see that is by enrollment so if you would look at that gray column enrollment that's got in order like the 20 districts that are directly larger than your District enrollment and the 20 districts that are directly smaller than your your uh District so if you were able to plug your number in there you know how do you rank with those 40 school districts make sense so far what you're seeing okay so if we go to page two I really don't know why we do this one this is your ksb region so there's big districts in there of 3,000 and then there's District small earn use so salary comparison the only importance there is would give you some Regional comparisons but only probably the ones that are similar in your enrollment would you have any concern on that the next one uh the next several page is your classification so your 1A classification if you look at that now your school district is a little bit different uh because at least until recently you had two different high schools you know so you know if you put your District enrollment together it might be a 2A District you know what I'm saying so but these are all of the 1A districts so you can look at those salaries and then you can plug in your current salary to see where you might rank in there and there's two pages of that cuz there's a lot of 1 a school districts and then lastly is a salary comparison for your league so a lot of districts really view that as one of their most important things is to see where you stand within your league so you can see the salaries based upon your league and then when you're able to plug in your salary for Central planes or where your proposed salary might be however you wish to do that to see where it goes so as I had said recently I'm not here to tell you you're either behind or you're ahead or your average that's up to you but what I would really uh recommend for your consideration is some point between now and your interviews come up with the salary range of which you're comfortable in paying I'm going to use round number so don't think I'm trying to hint to you but let's say we're and I honestly don't even know right off hand what you're currently paying so I don't know but I'm going to use round number we would we are willing to pay anywhere from 95 to 120 for an example that would be your range all right now why am I saying you do that something you ought to agree on as a board so when you offer I I would hate for you to do that that last night of the interview and you're trying to get an offer made before they take a job somewhere else and now you haven't talked about that and and now you might make a decision that you regret because you want that person so badly and you haven't had time to think about it and you offer 140 and then you realize oh my gosh what do we do you I'm just using numbers you see what I'm doing so please be proactive and considering a range that you're comfortable that you also think is going to be representative of a school district your size on some of these higher salaries how do we know that they're superintendent on the principal you don't now there if you ask me specifically if there's somewhere in the area I might be able to help you out I'm pretty sure thaty sure yeah and then even the ones if you happen to see some really low ones yeah a lot of times those are simply because it's a combination and they're just reporting the superintendent salary or they're only working two days a week and they're interim and they're going get making 50,000 so there are some stories behind the really loans so so a range of salary that's not something you'd have to do tonight but I would highly recommend on your December agenda that you have a superintendent search agenda item where you can talk about those items um that's up to the board go from there and you'll also want to confirm some other things so make sure on your agenda that you have super tenant search at your regular December meeting DEC just under General discussion okay so any questions or comments about what you see with the salary what's that form that says total board DP those paid benefits I think it's right I think yeah paid benefit the last one is um total salary plus Fringe is that yes that's it do you know most of the superintendents in our district yeah probably come pretty close yeah are most of them uh experienced superintendents or they you know two or three years or are they looking at 15 if I know them I would be able to tell you that I'd also also be able to probably tell you that they're two or three years in this District but they've been in another district 10 years before that yeah okay so if you have any specific questions you can get those to Diane I'll do my best to get an answer for you I don't think that on the last page I don't think Lewis is in our in our I'm not sure why that's showing up there you know we have a big spreadsheet and I know I don't know were they ever in your District or maybe they never got six we have eight schools in our league so I don't know why well Lewis and Maxville compete together don't they they're shared they have I know they are in junior high yeah so I wonder if somehow that Maxville and Lewis are connected in some manner they have two boards but they share kids on the at the middle school and the elementary level I believe so I bet you that's how they somehow got connected okay I bet you Lewis and Maxville cooperate for activities would be my guess okay all right here we go let's just keep moving on the next thing for your consideration and as you will know your board clerk is prepared darn you we need to talk about an interview day what that would uh look like in a district of your size so uh the last time you did a superintendent search Diane actually had records of what your interview day looked like uh what she has in front of you there is absolutely nothing wrong with this interview it's this the schedule for the day it would probably a little bit longer than what most districts your size would be and I I because I look at hundreds of these I know exactly why it's a little bit longer that you provide you gave an opportunity for them to meet with each principal in their building what I would have recommended to you is that all of the administrators come together in a common meeting or you know rather than not that that they need to have a tour of their building of the buildings in your District uh but to give them time within that tour to meet with the principal it's going to add some time but if you want to do it exactly like this there's absolutely nothing wrong with that if you want to shorten it down uh I would have some suggestions on that so what I would highly recommend obviously is the interview with the board so if we start from the from the top or from the bottom work back then a dinner with the uh board and the candidate so it's 6 o' here a lot lot of times it's at 5:30 but your schedule is a little longer so usually like a 5:30 dinner done at 6:15 or so adjourn for 15 minutes and then go into your formal interview so if it started at 5:30 your interview might start at 6:30 but 7 once again there's no issue with that just where we go we would recommend that there would be some sort of a reception so that the staff can meet each candidate that is difficult here because of three different buildings so if you did it you would if you have it in one building you would want to make sure it's scheduled that the Wilson faculty and the holwood faculty for an example could get to Claflin to the common meeting or if you have it in Wilson how long will it take for somebody to get there so that would typically be after school at some point so your staff can be there because you obviously can't let 50 staff members out without letting school out so that's another thing to consider so that does put a little bit of a wrench in because of your vastness of your District was the word I heard today you would want to have a tour of your district and the tour of the district and Diane told me that you may already have a tour guide to identifi which is fantastic but we would highly recommend it not be a board member so she didn't tell me who and I don't need to know but in your District I think it's really important that they see all three of your attendance centers Wilson route and Central PL high school high school if obviously if we Wen in Sal they wouldn't go to Every grade school so that could be a long tour um because your superintendent may live in any one of your communities who knows you may even want to have the tour guide drive a little bit around each of the communities too U that is not that is not a willy-nilly tour that needs to be a little bit planned out even when you're driving through the communities you know you're going to end up at the high school to give them a tour or the other schools but when you're driving through the communities you're driving through you're showing them the parks and recreations the City offers you know Swimming Pools Parks uh if there happens to be medical centers of you know just things that you think would be important for a new an important person within your community to be able to see you know and bushon no longer has a school that is within your District but it also is a pretty viable Community Within District so that that could lengthen your tour if this board chooses to do that I'm not advocating one way or the other that's going to have to be a board decision but it's going to be a long tour getting to at least three communities and walking through buildings now the tour guide is the one that's in the vehicle with them taking them everywhere when you get into the school we typically would say let the principals kind of take that doesn't mean the tour guide can't walk along with them but let your principales guide another thing to consider Diane if the principles were here I would say this um I've heard from candidates why did you happen to choose Central planes over you know when I toured the high school or Elementary they had kids giving me the tour I thought that was the most awesome thing now I'm not saying you have that type of people ready but it's pretty cool to hear a kid go I got you got to see this classroom Mr or Mrs so and so it is so cool what we're doing that's a lot better than a principal doing it once again that only happens in our very small number of districts but it has resonated with a few candidates so if you're able to do that it's a great consideration if you can't nobody knows the difference so something to consider Dian y okay um we would highly recommend they meet with your principals and your district office staff so the three ladies in the district office that's the three I'm aware of right and your two principles um in your schedule that you did many years ago they met with the principles um in the building and I think that's why it's a little B longer if they came at noonish for an example you would tell them when you call and that we'll have a meal for you you'll meet at the district office at noon we'll have a meal and you'll meet with the principls in the district office staff so that's something to consider so not that they won't talk to the principles you know when they get into the buildings but they'll have an opportunity if you do it oneon-one it does get a little bit long for the candid so something to potentially consider there so that's another thing you can either talk about a little bit more after I leave today but at that December meeting I think you're going to want to have something typed up that you're comfortable with so that's done you know so when we're ready to start the interviews in three weeks we're done we got that taken care of okay question so far all right all right so on the interview day and Tamara will talk to you the third time but usually it's the board president that calls to say we would like to have you come for an interview I'll try to do my best to have that we'll talk about that a lot more but you would want to offer lodging if you can because somebody's coming from 300 miles away and they got to be here by 11:30 noon 12:30 so that night You' say we would we we sure would like to offer lodging either before or after because if they're done at 9:30 they may not want to be driving home you get home at 2: in the morning so Diane mentioned that you may have some airbnbs that at least she feels comfortable with but it's ultimately a board decision to say yeah D and go with it or however I know how this works Diane okay so um I've recommended to Diane if the board says we want to offer lodging which I sure hope because it's a good look that you would give her release her to go ahead and get those reserved because you can always cancel them but at least you get those dates out there for them so I don't know if you want to say anything more about b&bs or if they have a preference or no I don't yeah yes and I was just going to mention that because um the last time we did I don't know if we used the Wilson hotel but we might have it I know we used the Ellsworth hotel and the candidate preferred stay in gra event so I think we just need to let them know their options and then they may want to say no I get points with the Hol in or whatever and then go and if the Wilson is an option u a lot of time they depend on what direction they're coming from if they're coming from Northeast Wilson might be a great opportunity if they're coming from the southwest they might wantes stay and if they're in central Hollywood I don't know if they have anything but probably not unless it's an airn something like that so guess you don't have to make that decision but be aware you're trying to make it convenient for the candidates you know if they need to go northeast they don't want a Great Bend to stay because they're going opposite of the direction they're working that's kind of what we did the last time is where they were coming from okay all right meal um as we talked at 5:30 approximately 5:30 there would be a meal U so the board has to choose on whether you want the school district to provide the meal and that's perfectly fine if you do or a caterer or whatever you may have but you know we've got five days reserved I'm going to be pretty honest with you I don't think we'll have five interviews I don't like to give five but we want to have those but your cater or whoever your food service would need to be start thinking about that that in case there is four interviews that they're prepared it does not have to be a fine meal it can be don't worry about it they're not going to complain while you serve them because that's a bad look just don't say you should have interviewed yesterday we had Stak sorry we're having hot dogs today but don't don't let them compare but um whatever you have there's no complaint uh a lot of districts I would say 95% of the districts now are having the meal in the same location of the interview if you go into a restaurant the meal is an executive session still because they are talking about things that are still not yet public information it's pretty hard to talk privately in restaurants that don't have a a room that you can close and then you have a waiter or a waitress walking in on all the time so if you have an interview here or if you have an interview in one of your schools uh the meal would come there let's say 5:30 you have a meal could be plated could be Buffet no problem you're done at 6:15 you clean the room everybody goes 15minute restroom break clean up the room come back in at 6:30 for the interview once again there's no right or wrong but it seems to be a little bit more convenient to do it in the same location as the uh interview what about uh the candidate's spouse the we don't recommend they bring a spouse but if you bring one I'm not going to I mean if board wishes to do that please do we have found it has created an imbalance uh sometimes when the spouses cuz sometimes the spouses are uh not the best look for the candidate I guess I hate to say I was just thinking about uh if they want to bring their spouse because this could be a potential employment opportunity for the candidate and they do the tour and that's all great but then when it comes time for the dinner and the interview the spouse really should not be a participant because it's an executive session well that makes it kind of UNC we would recommend to you that if you bring a guest and we would say would you like to bring a guest once again you're showing favoritism to somebody that may or may not be married even though you're not they may be thinking that if you say bring your husband or wife um you can invite anybody you want into an executive session that's true yeah so if you want a guest to come we would say that they're invited to everything from the 12:00 through the dinner within the interview they're no longer involved the hard part on that is what are they going to do for the two 2our interview you're going to have them set in the hallway here are you going to get them to the hotel if you do if they take the car how you going to get the candidate you know or somebody going to take the guest to the hotel you know however you wish to do that now I'm going to I'm going to say this you may or may not agree but the female candidates for some reason their spouses just don't want to come they're not going to take off work but the men candidates their their wives show up so now all of a sudden it shows up that oh they're married but now the female spouse show shows up they're married or not who knows but now everybody it's it's we've we've had female candidates say they believe it's an imbalance when a guest is invited because my husband who I love dearly is not coming and it just it's a signal that some it's not necessarily a good or maybe don't uh offer don't make the offer to have this the uh guest unless they say what about my and if they bring if they want about that time but if you you well you might want to know before because do we want to invite in gas once again it's not we've just seen there's been an imbalance okay but but it's up to the board I'm not going to say it's right or wrong there is no right or wrong on it it's just creates a I can see where there would be that but I can also see where I mean this is where they're potentially contemplating moving to yeah absolutely and you hate to make them feel welcome I was going to say one of our big things is supposed to be family yeah oh no yeah and if you said we want them to bring a guest absolutely I would never second guess it I'm not going to tell anybody you say yay or nay because when we were told not to recommend it anymore no jeez I'm I'm small I do a lot of small districts that's really important yeah so plus they can always come back and like if they come for the interview and he goes home we got to go see this place you know then they can always make another trip out orever C should be in your District before the interview coming a week or two before and driving around and with the whole family if they had children that they would already have a pre but once again you please do what you want to do not necessar say you can bring a guest but if they as then right they can accommodate or try yeah okay we'll disc anything include through the meal is that what you're thinking well we would not recommend at all they in the interview that they would be part of everything but the formal interview we have had and I'll just say that out front there's been spouses that have ruined the interview for the candidate yeah where they answer instead of the candidate and the board's go who who's in charge here we're looking for a superintendent you know so we not hiring yeah please don't put this stuff in the paper I'm just taking the photographs he's listening online so yeah we're on know I know all right so we've got lodging uh we uh you're going to start considering your interview day the meal plans you're going to come up with a salary range the last thing that I want you to think about are the interview questions uh in the back of your manual there is way more interview questions than you'd ever ask uh I'm going to send an electronic copy of those questions to Diane tomorrow what I would highly recommend P 30 is when they start yeah page 30 is where those are at so what I would highly recommend that you consider doing this if you if you wait till your December meeting and go over this I'm telling you you're going to take three hours to try to come up with the questions that you want to ask so I would recommend that you each look through those and you identify the 21 questions you would ask if I was the only board member in the interview you would send those to her you don't have to type you say question 4 6 9 10 she's going to go through those and if seven board members say we want questions to and that's going to be for sure one of the top 21 I would also highly recommend that you allow your newest board member to be part of that because she's going to be part of the interview questions so that make sense to you does does Diane have your email address I do okay all right so do you like that idea board or do you want to do you want to waste three hours at your December meeting trying to figure out all these questions well in How I Feel maybe 21 Questions didn't get the top 21 might have to add cou yeah and what you might end up happening the reason I'm saying doing this early enough that you're not waiting till the first day what I'm going to Diane you had a little work ahead of you here that if you send those to her I have recommended that this get done so at your December meeting here's the 21 questions that appear to come out then if you wanted to look at that point are we really want to ask question number 21 I think this one's more pertinent than you can do that as so now I would highly recommend that if you add a question that's not in there just simply send me an email I'll make our attorneys look at it and go is this a question that won't get this board in trouble and you all know what those questions are that's page 28 is the questions you don't have don't confuse the two sections to make it did you say that for yourself or you want somebody else that to make it clear then you could just email me and like dson says I want question 1.3 2.7 2.13 and you do 21 of those does that make sense and then I'm going to put those all together and say wow I had everybody picked this one same number so that's going to be for sure on there and then we can decide who's going to ask those questions and you will all ask the same questions to the three different candidates so you get the same answer and you can Tally what they're saying does that make sense so Tamara what I would recommend is she said that rather than you be the only one to ask questions at all seven of you hopefully they'll have seven board members there ask questions and if it's okay with you she could just assign those so when it comes back on that Tamar when you look at it you're going to know you do questions one is the board president eight and 16 for example and she'll even have your name written on that so um so I'm going use you Tammer as an example when you see your three questions the other questions are important to you but you can think what is a good response to my three questions so when you guys get together you know I've thought enough about this Chad might say I I thought this response was really good because I've had some time to think about that questioning before I asked it it's also a good look if the questions are uh labeled to Tamar ask this one yes I yes so during the interview it's a good look rather than going after you ask your question ah don't you go with number two yeah go it's a better look when you look like you're organized so that's why I think assigning board members to the questions just a real each will ask three that's where you get 21 Questions all right so Diane what day would you like these to you well if we were going to try to have them by the December meeting if you could get those to me by December the 4th which is like the Monday prior then I can go ahead and get the things printed out and uh have you assign which questions and you guys can practice if you get them to her sooner you wouldn't be upset would you yeah no you could start working on a little bit but I am going to take off a week vacation so at Thanksgiving so but that's I thought December the 4th of we could we'll have the board stuff done and so at your December meeting uh the things that you'll want to talk about so D if you take a little bit of time your salary range the interview you day try to get that down to where you have it on a piece of paper so that's done obviously you have your questions you'll want to confirm that you've got hotel or lodging for La a better term and that you might even want to tell Diane tonight uh we want the school system to make our meals or we want to have this um because I've done a lot of these are some things for your consideration if you have multiple cater Caterers you want one one cater to do one meal or you just want to bid it out and have them because you know the culture in your communities better than I do if you have three caters and you just say cater number one you get it and cater number two and three are going oh what the heck I didn't you know so it's something just to consider your interviews can be in any location um I don't want to make it hard for you or easier but you know they don't necessarily have to be here Holly or Wilson but your interview should be in the same location for each of your candidates decide there the tour uh you'd want to maybe talk about that in the December meeting whoever your tour guide is um you know who we where we going to go where we want to take them and make sure your principles are aware that they'll probably be given the tour once they're within the building or possibly students if they are ready to go so these are just discussion topics that you want the board to kind of think about that and we'll put those on the December agenda and under just general superintendent search that we can go through okay and then they can turn they they'll have their questions I can hand out their questions because I already have those done and the good news is you have December meeting to get all of this decided on so when you start your interviews that's all done that's you're not thinking about anything but the recommendations when I come to you on January 8th remember January 8th I will come and uh bring all of the hard copy applications to the board uh they'll make recommendations based upon the phone calls the betting the screening the characteristics that you've identified for me tonight and then you'll make a decision we want to interview Gary's recommended or not and go from there and then call will be that tonight I'll I'll coach you that evening on how to make the phone calls like I said I will have asked each of the recommended candidates whether they still have interest so you'll know that um and then I'll ask them specifically are there some days between these five that you're going to have to come any day the board asks you to come but is there some that are worse or better than you and I'll try to have that set up a little for you and then also that night we'll talk about how to make the deal and when to make the the offer so that you'll have that I so if your last interview was Friday for an example we'll talk about when they need to be contacting for for you contacting them if they don't call you in the time you address because you don't have time to wait around you're going to give them a very specific time I need to know by this date and time and it's not very much time I will tell you that there's been a lot of superintendent positions opening up since we've last talked and there are some districts of similar size Central Kansas are open so you are kind of uh I hate to say in this manner but potentially in competition with them you're a little bit ahead because you're first in the queue I told you right right off the bat you're you're still number one you may be a week ahead of or three days ahead of some of these other districts but you'll be a little bit of ahead if you have common candidates so are you saying that let's say for example January the 8th is the board meeting you've got the three candidates we got a call let's say I'm gonna say three let's say we do the interviews Tuesday Wednesday Thursday just that same week then at the end of the Thursday interview they should make a make an offer so that would okay now unless it's too late you're not going to call somebody at 11 o'clock at night but if you're interview's done at 9:30 you have your little conversation and there is no doubt the seven of you can come to consensus that quickly if it's 10:30 or earlier I would say call if it's later you might wait till very first thing the next morning but this is the point you can't wait because I will be able to tell you if KSP is doing the search I I will be able to say these three are good candidates and here's why but I am also aware that two of these three have applied at and they're interviewing next week so I'll be able to tell you that if we're doing the search I will know that if it's they're doing their own search I won't have that information but I will share which I will share to the other districts too but they're a little bit behind you so that doesn't necessarily take an extra meeting like like after I'm just thinking of I have to attend that Thursday night then after they're all done they know for sure it's going to be Mr Smith or whatever uh that it's too late to call then just the president can call the following day that doesn't have to be a meeting okay okay but as soon as you get the we'll talk about this third visit as soon as you get somebody that says yes to your offer U you're going to get a contract signed contract in your hand immediately we'll talk about this and can be done by facts it's legal and then you're going to have a special meeting if you can get it together if they if they if you get that signed contract in the office at 8: am on Monday you're going to try to have a special meeting at Monday night to get this thing done or we could do a zoom meeting you could I we can't all get together that would be the first that meeting would be the first time that your public will actually know who their new superintendent there is there's nothing said up until the approval of the new superintendent's contract when you come out of that last interview you're not going to make any Motions like Gary's number one Sue's number two because first of all you don't know if number one's going to accept the job you just talked about it you come to consensus on who your top candidate is and you're going to make the call what's ramifications if they sign that contract and they still back out well they could sign the contract until the board acts on it it's really not official what if we approve what you know like employment's weird what if they something comes up like well I can't I can't do it now we start this that's an attorney question my attorneys always say Gary you didn't stay at holiday in last night so don't answer those questions U that's why I'm here we've got five attorneys when those come up I'll call an attorney get an answer for you right now you know do we do we have to whatever it is yeah so that's why we have five educ attorneys to help us with this get to those tough questions I have a question on the so January the 8th you're going to recommend three people I don't know I mean whatever yeah is are those three names confidential they're confidential until the day they interview okay because I might have people calling me and say who you got who you got so what I will do I we'll talk about the next visit in the manual there's a release that we would say probably be your Clerk so the day of the interview 8:00 in the morning there's a little press release our first interview is Gary secret he is currently the superintendent principal of whatever uh here's what the schedule for the today is we hope you can be at the public reception that's all you're saying you're not releasing all three or four or all two that first day I will tell you I'm not going to say that public that's okay I just didn't know how confidential the candid it's problematic if you release them too soon because you're going to have everybody everybody in the district doing their own investigation and somebody in your district has a cousin in the district they're at and they fired that cousin and all of a sudden this teacher can't believe that you're considering hiring this new superintendent that fired their cousin and the cousin was the worst teacher in the history of the world but it's hard to convince everybody that's what it is okay good know and I'll make sure you get all that stuff electr okay yeah okay any other questions before I take off you give us any updates along the way like that you received yeah I've got to be cautious on that I told the staff today that if you absolutely said I want to know how many applicants I'll tell you but here's why I would prefer not to if I would tell you two it's now public information and somebody's going to hear about and go what's wrong with Central planing there only two apps I'm not applying may have been the person you wanted if I said 20 someone go ah 20 I don't have a chance I was going to apply should have been the person I'm not saying it works that way but you're not going to get very many applicants anyway and I'm doing everything I can to optimize the number I will tell you I've got a phone call from somebody and I hope they apply that's what I can tell you there I think this person would be a good candidate but I think they're also going to apply to another District too so you have a question we don't want to jeopardize but if you told me Gary you work for us I'll I would tell you but I will also tell you it's really really early nobody has enough applicants yet yeah because I've looked at everybody we toing I think we got six of them out there right now so osbor is open that's a potential competition fairly close to you fairly similar size Minneapolis North Ottawa county is open just north of Salina in Ottawa County Otis bison just came open Monday night that's official smaller District but it's in your area um there's another District in South Central Kansas coming open Monday night that I can't say anything about but I'm going there Monday night to get there started they're behind you but it's also a district that would potentially be in draw the same similar Ty can and then Cheno is open which is just probably far enough away that it wouldn't be in there for a district also okay once again you've got my email and if you have any questions I would be happy to answer those go thank you very much thank you yeah had a fun day thank you you know I'm available your questions okay okay thank you get through there is there any of this saying that you want to go into a little bit more tonight as far as lodging meals I any of that or you just want wait um I think probably my plan is if it's okay with you is just to interview the uh Food Service staff to see if this is something they would like to do you know we would obviously pay them um to prepare the meal each evening but they may not want to but I I think the last time I did it we gave them the first opportunity I do remember when we interviewed for U the last superintendent we catered the meal every time with the same caterer and it was out of Ellsworth but I don't know if they're still open or not it was some Steakhouse in Ellsworth and they catered every single meal and we just let them choose the menu and they brought him in containers and it did they bring him in containers or did they bring for Beth style I can't remember which but it worked out just really well really well I don't think I don't think so either but that's who we went to that was a while ago but um I as far as you guys know the district better than me I don't know who the Caterers are if there is even any this was a restaurant we just approached and then they decid they said yes we will do that for you and they brought all the meals to Hollywood so elor to Hollywood wasn't that far we did everything in the Hollywood so if we do cater you could have the dinner right here and you know and everybody will be in the same place or we could do high school cafeteria or I mean know doesn't matter you guys have think about that but I just I I thought about the food service ladies first and we can pay them and their employees and they're in the district and keep the business coming local the food that we purchased would not be through Food Service we'd have to pay for that separate because you can't run that three F service but it's a thought I think the other big thing for is maybe time depends on what day have it on yes and and I'm not saying that they would or they may not want to because they're going to be busy I mean they have school meals to prepare and all that I just remember it it I've done this so many times it might have been the time before we did it they served lasagna and they just served something you know that was more like a ceral kind of smothered thing or whatever um so yeah we can if you guys know of a caterer you know that you think would come and bring the food we can talk about that for sure we've got a little time as long as we give them the dates we know the dates we know how many evenings means that's the most important thing and I haven't looked at the school calendar yet but the dates that we're looking at we could have activities basketball games it's going to be right smack and basketball season so Junior High and high school so be a busy time but I like the idea of having it in a row get it going get it done don't stretch it out I did fail to ask him and I was going to mention it to him too if um he did mention today to our group that if don't have anybody to you'll have to extend the opening long we don't have any applicants at all but it sounds to be like that we will so maybe that's not going to be an issue well should asked what is our limit have two we run with two or we going to try to extend it on or there's only one appin you're going to run with one that may depend on their recomend I mean he may have a strong recommendation based on what who those are yeah if you have two and they're both very strong than I think two but if you have one and you're going that's all we have then you're going to run yeah for you don't want to just settle like restur what if the restaurant had group secluded from other part he said the same thing you still have a way that will come in with the dreams still have this that's the only downfall on having it at a restaurant than at this place people cautious of what said when the comes in but I'm just trying to think of if they don't care well that would be a good plan too if they would have like a little Buffet set up they could make their plate and then go into the room and have your tea and water on the table then you wouldn't even have to have any service but that could be manageable I'm trying I'm trying to think of how we did it when that restaurant catered and I think they brought the containers and it was the serving and we went through a line and serve say like the Mexican restaurant in Ellsworth we've used them for meals at the office and you can get trays of like you want faitas you can have trays and everybody can make their own yeah yeah I yeah I'm GNA I'll make call one I mean there's like all I think I can think of boots and Kon and I don't know like B and Char it's all it's all bar M's made some meals for board meetings before too she always does a good job huh wouldn't be opposed to asking her if she was interested in doing that too she's also District employee right yeah fact class um yeah but again those kids could be busy after school you know with the activities but that would be Terina Templeton in back class um we'll think about that I'll I'll keep you guys keep let me know if you know some and I'll try to keep things in mind too um we'll I'll take a look at the school calendar to see what's happening that week for that so and then the lodging um I think it depends where they're from but I the Wilson Hotel would be great if they're coming up from that part and then um all I mean Shelley Weber's my neighbor she owns the house right next door to me is the Airbnb and I can ask her I mean I just that there's people there today at her M of state so that would be a place it's a three bedroom I like the idea of giving them the option to choose here's here's your different options because everybody also has a little bit different preferences too aside from location hotel hotel hotel that's all I want Hotel you know well like you said it depends on where they're coming from or on top of it you know they might okay I'm doing an interview on Thursday I'm not going back home we're going inter Kansas yes you know to family yes so I'm going that way instead of back to the east I'll let them choose I can give them some options of where to stay and then I'll let them choose for the for the lington hotel too that's very nice hotel over there that's pretty new I'll do um we'll work on the questions um do we need to have with the hotels I'm not so worried about prob to get a room but yeah I'll ask J tomorrow for that what she thinks during the week it's not as bad as weekends so I don't think we should have issu but and it's after the holidays are over so I know people put way in advance on of okay we um the the schedule I just Ed as an example that we did with Mr Clark the schedule so I was thinking more starting early afternoon we don't I mean it's up to you guys if you want them to tour the bushon building the community building in bushon um they can see the facilities of the football field and that because that's where we have our Junior High activities maybe that would be a good idea to drive through there and see that so we'll have to figure out how long that date will take um but the meeting with the staff after school I was looking at um finishing the tour at Wilson and meet with the Wilson Staff after school from like 4:30 to like 4:15 like 45 minutes it doesn't have to be something real long 30 minutes to drive down here and then another 45 minutes with our staff and they'd be done at 5:30 and then maybe a break and eat at six go so I was going to work on that scheduling of of uh the tour see how look but there's yeah there's a lot to do on we had the KSD auditor here today and then we had this is there anything else you want me to come in call Job um we could start you know um the comment that he made we could start late morning here with the administrators and I can have we can have sandwiches or something here just to visit with them and then you have the administrators done then go on with the tour take a staff later that way you're not cramming it all in because we are kind of far apart so I'll think about that you guys will need to think about no salary we could talk about that in as well I got that marked tour meal loging questions and you said you wanted the questions by the 4th of December okay yeah I want to make sure I wrote that down yeah if you guys can go through those questions and just circle what you'd like to ask that's how I did it the last time and then I kind of tally to see what was the most popular those are the ones that I picked but if there's let's say you pick 21 questions and just say d i I really want to be the one to ask this question then that's okay I mean you know if it's a popular question and all seven of you write it down then I'll make sure whoever really wants to ask that question I'll get that on their list so you know there might be something that might jump on as you but you understand what he was saying you're going to ask that same question to all three candidates and you're going to have a little place and you're going to write down their answer for question I'm gonna have that question on the page for you and then the next page will be candidate B that same question and you're going to write down does that make sense okay so you can kind of keep everything straight in your head because it would be difficult to ask several different questions to all the different what's going on that week I did like his statement of having the student the tour of the I like that too I'm not sure if that would work but we could sure try because I thought that was a kind of cool idea too place to start with that each building administrator and see if they maybe they would recommend students that would be good at doing something like that um sometimes the student though could take a while I mean it might get off schedule Oh Come you like when he said come look at this we got this going you know or whatever but it gives them a little hands on oneon-one with the candidate which is makes them feel important and it's all about the kids anyway sure I can find that roughly need know what our enrollment is total we have 80 we we have 225 at got about 148 or 49 at Central Plains these are just random throwing them out there you can add those together that doesn't include the Lakeside Learning Center yeah so what you got roughly you know kids come and go a lot right oh we did okay any other questions comments feel free to email me if you went over a lot of stuff email may get a question or whatever I guess if we're asking building admin to find a student who's G to ask them is that something one of us used to do or is that something um I feel like we're putting a lot of things yeah um I actually could probably just get a feel from them and say once we get the tour schedule down that interview day schedule down then we could just decide if that's once if we want to include a student with that tour you know what I mean and then they can pick one or two I'm going to say it's probably going to be a junior or a senior but I could be wrong could be a Junior High kid or even both like sixth grade or fifth grade you know for elementary um that can be released class and you know yeah and be comfortable doing that too be comfortable being friendly being comfortable with showing them around and sh items that they're do so that would probably ask an administrator to pick or a teacher okay there's nothing else I would entertain a motion to adjourn motion by Josh second second by Alison all those in favor say [Music] I thank you everybody
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kind of situation so it's not feasible for them to come to school at 8:00 if they're getting home that late so I would like to revisit that situation again yeah especially with the Third Day games that's my yeah sure okay yeah anybody else in the have anything to add to the next agenda then well hold on unless um are we going to be dibles testing middle the school year or middle of the Year Benchmark testing by then I I believe you know what I can check with Miss coming up so if we do have that then maybe an update on the Benchmark middle of the Year absolutely you uh you uh is that what they just did is that the benchmarking that we just did no for dibles is your primary um early literacy skills so there's three benchmarks Yeah we actually talked about that in our leadership if we have results by then maybe if we can have that for the next agenda item if not we can do that in January when I believe so yeah fifth I think if we have that we we'll present the sure okay no more agenda items then I will ask for a motion to move into executive I'll make the motion to move into executive session Mr Hopkins Mr C I miss ol hi M Rodriguez hi we are now in itive session okay and
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we will take a five minute break for members at 8:00 pm and at this point we'll do a a roll call and call to order please secretary extrom let's wait until I get Kate on the phone okay is that all right we yeah we do have uh one possibly two members as per our uh president in the joining us by phone this evening um they are at a school committee conference uh on the cape and um we'll be trying to get them on the phone for just a second let's Hi how are you sounds great I'm gonna put you guys somewhere so the microphone can hear you and I'll have you on speaker yep hello can you hear me yes can you hear us try it again one more time can you hear us hello kind I'm working on hold on maybe it's me try again hello testing that's much better thank you it was it was my fault I had my volume turned down apologies let's do a roll call please um and just want to let everyone know Susan Farber is not here this evening she typically takes minutes and notes and so I'm going to be doing that and I'm sure I will drive everyone insane with my clicking so member Den here secretary Exum I am here member Johnson mad here Vice chair Martini here chair pretti here member wall here mayor W Gartner and is not going to be joining us this evening we have a quum okay thank you we are called to order at 6:03 p.m.
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so you think about how much growth that is that's a tremendous amount um and then in math 70 out of 161 students with more than 110% uh growth and 35 students with an actual growth percentage over 150 Max 329 okay so this is whole school math growth data so that light green is the percentage the average percentage of growth made so you can see we started at 62% and now 79% is the average percent of uh growth made like towards that Target the green is our growth rate so last year 56% of students met their growth Target Ela we've gone from 63% to 74% students making it towards that growth Target and then 57 % have met that Target yeah with that truncation of the at the upper end at 110% you have the actual data so you could calculate these growth rates without trun right correct and because this may be a seiling you know 72 73% trun 11% might prev commitment so do you have have you done that like we might actually be continuing to impr AC 19 yeah that would be interesting to see yeah part of it which is really interesting so to eliminate outliers they they cap the they don't have a negative growth um so if say a student backslid they stop them at zero and of a student y yeah on both so it's definitely something that I can I can take a look at and and looking um further back to try and look at some of that growth data take a close look at I also do have the the Box the for thank you appreciate that I apologize I have to fail I that's okay go for it all right all right down by uh by great okay by great so some of the highlights to take from here is grade four 92% % is the average um to their target and grade six 90% so 67% met their actual Target in sixth grade but the average um towards that Target was 90% so almost there and then Ela um we're averaging around that 70 70% range 75% range for um towards their growth Target um and then by grade we're really around that 60% range you're next all right I'm up okay sorry all right so one of the things to think about we talked about this a little bit earlier is when we look at um when we look at our data we want to look at longitudinally across cohorts right and so previous viously you might ask yourself like how are your third grade scores doing and that's great except that like every year we get a different version of third graders and so what we want to take a look at is we want to see how are those cohorts progressing across um and so um in that way we can see how students are doing from year to year to year um and so this is our Ela data um and so you'll see we've got a nice upward trend for that class of 2022 um and you'll see that there's there's some bars that are missing and ultimately that's where we have that that 20 uh that 2020 um iteration of the smarter balance that's not there um and so we're working to try and ensure that we've got that upward Trend um it's not as consistent as we would like um but we're also looking and that's a lot of the work that we're trying to do both at a younger age really looking at that science of reading work that we're doing across our K you know k6 across but really really trying to get that solid foundation what we've been finding and what's been happening is a lot with that reading work um is that we're finding that kids are doing really well into fifth grade because a lot of kids are really good at memorizing things and so they're just memorizing words just site words they've just got thousands of words memorized and at some point they just top out and so what we're really trying to do is make sure that they've got an Exceptional Foundation so that they can be able to really decode new and novel words as they move forward um and we can ensure that Trend moving up um math has been a little less consistent um and so we're really trying to take a look at and ask those questions like why is that right we can't be afraid of the data we'll share it when it's good we'll share it when it's got some areas to grow and so part of that that we want to take a look at and you'll see we tend to get that drop into fifth we've recouped it into sixth but it'd be really great if we weren't recouping into sixth then we were continuing on and so part of our next steps is to really think about how do we eliminate that drop um so inevitably somebody's going to ask well how you doing compared to your friends glad you asked so um we will constantly be compared to our boa and I think that that's really important we're going to lean into that um but it's also really important to think about going to our typical peers right so when you look at the state of Connecticut they have what are called District reference groups or durs and so those dgs are um there's several different factors um to create those durs but it's really trying to think about how can you compare town to town um that are similar to each other so across those 169 towns durs are split from a dur a all the way to a dur I um and we are in dur SE should be noted uh that all of um our other boa peers would Bridge orange and Amity are in dur B when we think about dur B you can think of towns like Avon Greenwich Guilford West Harford and Fairfield when you think about dur sea towns included in dur sea are towns like Andover tand Hein Suffield and Summers and can because I'm from can we got a chip on our shoulder with Avon just saying uh so comparing to the state of Connecticut so um another thing that we can do um is thinking about um not only how we're doing against our bow appears but also like when we look at the 186 and 187 it's slightly different because of the sample sizes that I have and so on Ed site there's only so much public data that you can get um how do we compare to those other districts across the state uh and so when we look at Ela we ranked 31st out of 186 or we were in 84th percentile um when we look at math we were 27th out of 187 reporting districts um in the 86th percentile um and so are those are those to k6 numbers or to K8 those are going to be 38 numbers so I didn't extrapolate out yeah so I didn't extrapolate out just average for the of what grades are included in that and the challenge with some of that and this is where when I go to the when I really try and look at it through dur um the challenge is that some districts like Amity is just 78 right whereas other districts like us are only 36 and some are even lower than that because they go to a reg you know they're going their sixth grade is up in a region and they stop at 5 all right um so uh I took a look so it to think in terms of comparisons to where we um landed out for our overall achievement scores uh we were within a point or two one way or the other uh for El or math of towns like glenberry Fairfield Guilford Ellington Essex um and reading which was a dur game uh so this is how we compared against uh boa uh so you'll see we're um we're right line with our peers um that's in math this is in ela and this is achievement by the way this is growth um so when you look at it um we're we're really holding steady against our peers um for growth and then that's Ela growth as well so en Amity in those numbers really just create correct that's all y so one of the things that I I wanted to take a look at was well we can compare to B all day long but also like how are we doing against dur C and so this was pre- pandemic this is 2019 data dur C and this is only towns that I could get um publicly sharable data for grades 3 four five and six so if you had a district that was 3 to8 we went and took out seven and eight and only compared ourselves against their 3 to six students so pre- pandemic we were 66% for um math right even with um those uh with those districts in dur SE we were 10th post pandemic um we've gone to 68 we're fourth in our dur against comparable peers and outpacing the average by six percentile points for ELA uh we were eighth at 72% um we were slightly above the average pre- pandemic and then post pandemic uh we were 7 percentile points above that average for dirt SE um ranking fourth in that dur against uh towns that I could find comparable data something I want to point out about these data our numbers have gone up a little our ranking has gone up a lot yep that's because the average has substantial pandemic loss we hav't and so I just want to call out that you know as the success of our school and thank the staff for insulating our kids against that loss keeping them right on we've seen that in several of the slides you've shown keeping them right on course despite the buffeting of 2020 and 2021 yeah and and I think that that's something that we've been you know it's something that we were really mindful of to try and think about what can we put in place to make sure that we're doing the best for every kid to be prepared as we're moving forward um all right uh so one other thing and and and so we've just taken all this time to share all of this smart or balance data it's really important to recognize that it's one example of data a child is not defined by one score on one test that they took over 3 days in the middle of May when they were looking outside and they were going God it's a beautiful day outside right so we need to be really mindful that we're dealing with children we're dealing with children's achievement and that it's only one way that we look at data and we can't really just look at it only that way which is why when we come back in the winter we'll be taking a look at several other aspects of data that we use to really look at children on a whole basis some of that is our I ready we have Dibbles DSA patent core we have our interim assessment benchmarks from the smarter bals our fact fluency unit quizzes and tests um projects and class assignments um and it's really important that we think about not only looking at smarter balance and these but really triangulating those and looking at how we get a trend for children and really thinking about that whole child okay some of our takeaways from the data so Ela continues to see strong results in both achievement and growth um our math data shows um achievement and growth surpassing pre-pandemic levels and averse to the state Trend which is going uh which has gone down pre pandemic uh since pre pandemic there continues to be a drop off in fifth grade math which we are going to address in our next steps in a moment um the subgroup data based on race gender and high needs um show an area of focus for us in the future and then compared to our dur and booa town peers Bethany's results show the positive impacts of all the work done by staff during and since the pandemic so like everybody has said it's been a true team effort here at BCS um so you can go ahead sorry sorry no so we took a look at it and we wanted to try and think about our next steps in in sort of two ways right the first way is to really think about well this is really good I feel like we've been doing a pretty good job why have we been doing a good job what has been working right what do we want to keep and so several things that we're going to continue to do is we're going to focus on that srbi that mtss process really thinking about students that need additional support or intervention um we've got our boost Academy we have data teams where teachers are really getting together and talking about data and having instructional outcomes from that and then our case review is to really look not just at data on an overall school or a grade or a class but on a kid level how is this child doing um we're going to continue to identify students who met or exceeded in previous grade but did not in their most recent assessment and how we can get them back to where they were um we're also going to take a look and have um staff implementing those iabs from the smarter balance um they really help support um success and really now at this point we're getting a lot more specific in those assessments and we're getting a lot more data from them um and then finally we're not just going to focus on student achievement but the social emotional well-being of children right so happy kids do well academically well- cared for kids do well academically and so that's a really important part of the work that we do okay some more next steps so um what we did was we updated the summit schedule this year to include a significantly more time in math um 80 minutes versus 40 minutes last year we did not invent time um we revamped our schedule so um previously there was a Wind Block we combined the Wind Block with um all of the other blocks across the um schedule and science and social studies are being switched every other day so we got some feedback from staff who asked um like for a science for example to be a longer block of time which would be nice for them to do experiments and really dive into things um versus the 40-minute block where you're setting everything up and then it's time to wrap up so we we worked it out to switch every other day we also departmentalize data teams so we have Summit Ela meeting weekly and Summit math um teachers and science teachers meeting weekly so that means they're more focused and they're meeting more often um in their subject area we're working with our curriculum Department to discuss ways in which we can provide additional professional learning um support to teachers in the area of math um specifically in the area of problem solving um we have a steering committee focus on high quality instruction and then uh professional learning with Margie gills who was here yesterday for a full day um and her team to support small group instruction that implements science of reading at BCS they were also here today um working with our teachers right and so one of the things right so so we're really proud of the achievement that we've got but when we look at those right when we look at those graphs right we're we're chasing Woodbridge right it's not a surprise and so spoiler everyone in the state is chasing Woodbridge right they ranked second in ela and third in math right they're 99th percentile across the board so like tip of cap right so we reached out right we don't have enough Pride to say well we're not going to do what they're doing right we reached out and we said well what's the special sauce what are you doing and they said two really big things that they were focusing on one they were think they were really trying to look at not just computational math but looking at problem solving how we're applying that math to real world problems and getting kids thinking about and working through and using that computation in problem solving and the second thing that they were doing was they were looking at departmentalizing their data teams so their data teams in the upper grades were focusing on Ela and focusing on math so you'll notice we have two stat right so right if it's working it can work for us right so we're really proud of the work that we've got but we're also really looking and thinking how can we continue to do better and that's two ways that we're trying to implement some of that from you know some of the folks who are doing it best across the state um that being said wanted to share uh two other slides um and so uh Smarter Balance isn't um the only way that we can be evaluated right we talked about lots of different data um and so what the state of Connecticut does is they have what's called a Next Generation accountability index it's a whole host of stuff if you want to look up all the data and the percentages it's a whole formula it's super complicated at the end of the day you look and you say how many expected points are you supposed to get what percentage of those points did you get and then they give you a score it's kind of like a school report card right and so when you look at it we got 82.4% of those points it's based on things like our Smarter Balance performance our Smarter Balance growth our science performance and growth our attendance our English proficiency our physical fitness all of those things right so um this is one of those things and I I tell people this like I knew this right like there's some of those things you just know as a human being right so I come in every day and I go to bed every night I know that we're doing a good job I know that the people here are working hard I know that they are putting in countless hours I know that they are doing the absolute best they are bleeding for the kids here every single day right I know it I don't need a a score to tell me I know it but it's really great to see that that can actually come through in some way to be able to show and codify the hard work and the amazing work that teachers are doing on behalf of kids that our community is doing on behalf of kids for their growth and achievement and so what's really great is that the state thinks so too um and so we've been honored as a school of Distinction which is a really big deal um and it's really hard um so especially for the way in which we got recognized so um based on our performance and having 82.4% of those um points on the Next Generation accountability index boy that's a mouthful um they recognized us as a school of Distinction for high performance right and so there were I believe 135 schools that were recognized as schools of Distinction but only 67 out of the 935 were recognized for high performance and so to do so you have to be in the top 10% based on that accountability index that's the score and then you can't be ruled out right so there's ways that you could be ruled out like if you're not in a category one two or three like you've been struggling before in your a turnaround school but all of a sudden you figured it out you're still in that category and they're not necessarily trusting your data so you have to have had a strong Trend along the way you also can't have an achievement Gap you can't just have some of your kids doing really well but some of your kids they're just getting left behind um and then the last bit is that you have to have um you have to have participation so you can't just have some of your kids taking it and then others not taking it they want to make sure that every kid is is as many kids as possible are included in that um and so when we look at it we're really looking at um at a school that's achieving something that only 7% of the schools in the entire state were given as a distinction so um we're pretty proud of that we get a banner apparently uh we're not waiting for that Banner we made our own Banner but apparently they're going to give us a nicer Banner but like we already have our own Banner it's hanging in the office y um so this is one of those things like again I knew this right and I said this to the staff right were we doing really lousy last year and all of a sudden miraculously we doing better this year no are we doing a little bit better in a bunch of different ways I'm sure but we were doing really well last year and I'm sure we're going to be doing really well next year this year we happen to get labeled as a school of Distinction and trust me as a hyper competitive human we're going to be holding on to that label but it's really something like we were doing well before we're going to be continuing to do that but it's a way to be able to honor all the hard work of everybody in this room right all the people who live in this building all the kids who are coming in every day right and they're seeing me on Monday and dragging in right but they're here and they're working hard um and it's really a testament to all that hard work so um it's a huge shout out to our staff and our kids and our families and our community so that's what we've got yeah thank you any board members have uh further questions I could probably come up a few more but I'll we back uh any questions about the DAT I've seen this twice now so I'm I've seen this twice now so I'm I just wanted to comment on one more thing that I think so the outlier score is the B The Fifth Grade B yes it has been we've known this we're working on it continue to work on it that's good I love the steps you're taking to address that and I want to note that we consistently recover in grade right so that means yes there's room for improvement in fifth grade and also when we send send our kids on out of here that there's no there's no persisting trouble at he so so yes we need to keep working on it you're doing so I applaud that and also in that context when when our kids leave here they're they're well prepared so that's good to see in the data would be more concerning if there were droping fit that wasn't coming all the way back that would be differ concerned for sure all right thank you very much thank [Applause] you it's always nice to review that date each fall thank you for that presentation moving on in our agenda we will uh review and approve a minutes of our October 11th regular meeting I'll entertain a motion to approve those minutes thank you Angelo in a second thank you Amy uh I trust people have had a chance to review any questions Corrections concerns about the minutes as presented in your packet I just make a comment you know there was a lot of discussion on the procedure for the teacher contract and the minutes don't get into that type of detail but I hope in the future that we can uh do something with a u policy or bylaw procedure and uh it use legal counsel to have those recommendations made specifically because I'm not quite sure how different teacher contracts are from other contracts but there's seem to be a lot of sensitivity to seeing the contract before we voted on it so it gets irregular and uh I think we could do better for the board to inform everyone so that we're making votes we're confident of sure and to summarize for people who weren't here for that discussion thank you for for raising that we approved our teachers contract at our last meeting and that was done in the same way it has been since I've been on the board which is that um K it was the negotiations committee had already approved the contract and then K presented the changes in the contract language and then we voted on that and there was a feeling on the board that it would be nice to see the full language of the contract not just a summary of the changes and that it would be nice to have a little more time to digest those before being asked to vote I thought those were reasonable points this was raised in the last policy committee didn't get to the point of you know we need to do some research and as you said but between now and when the next contracts come forward I'm sure that can be done so uh we can you know either change the process so there is more time or have a very very clear understanding of why this process is the way it is so thank you for raising that the policy committee has already begun to discuss and I trust we'll continue to do so though I won't be here to try not to forget any uh further uh comments on the minutes hearing that I'll call for a vote all those in favor please indicate by saying I I any opposed any extensions motion passes the minutes are approved and will be posted on our website we come on to our various committee reports beginning with Asus okay's uh Asus had a regular board meeting October 12th and we heard the typical series of reports uh most notable to me was a report on the construction managers for their project at 88 Basset in North Haven uh the group had just done this big presentation September meeting with an updated cost estimate certification that was approved by the board but in the October meeting the same Architectural Group suddenly resigned uh breaking the contract with ases uh the explanation for them quitting was that it was a large company that was downsizing the consequences of their resignation has contract penalties uh but no detail on that was provided at the time so was just rather unusual uh there were also uh two policies offered for first reading titled uh chess feeding and affirmative AC on the chest feeding I did ask if that terminology that includes expression of milk is really necessary and suggested that I thought breastfeeding of any kind would pretty much cover all the bases on the affirmative action there were concerns raised that the former language had not been presented with a proposed language and I'm concerned for contradicting language in that policy but uh there wasn't any time left before the end of the meeting to really cover that closely so that pretty much sums it up thank you any questions for Mrs Bradford about the Asus report that she's okay moving on to curriculum um I have don't have much to say because we just basically heard the whole presentation um and then miss Kel in her report will give us an update on PD and uh GR updates I applaud you on an exceptionally efficient final curriculum report oh thank you I actually had like all these notes because I wasn't sure if it would be the whole presentation so all right uh facilities John Paul had had step out has there been a facilities meeting since our last board meeting yes facilities met on uh last week and we discussed some of the uh recent Roofing projects and started to make some plans for how we can proceed with addressing any issues with ro in uh put together a plan for hbac um and explore some of the grants that'll be out there for that okay any questions about facilities okay H not I'll move on to finance which I will present finance committee met uh last night by Zoom um I took beautiful notes so uh you have a finance report in your packet which I will briefly review there are a few changes so in general education the projections remain status quo no changes from the preceding month um and that leaves us with an unchanged surplus of $4,560 which comes almost entirely from uh Savings in uh salaries because uh and that's because of new staff who who you know came staff who came in different from the ones who originally budgeted on your PR um I will note one thing on this so you all uh will recall that late in the day after our budget was passed we needed to um add a fourth a second grade section because the census had increased and so there was a we added a teacher who wasn't in the original budget and that teacher was paid for out of our non-recurring uh savings account with the town um which sort of our rame kindergarten section kindergarten section as I said sorry my mistake it wasn't second which was already at four rather kindergarten that went up to four um so that added the cost of that added teacher wasn't added to the budget which had already been passed but rather was taken from our rainy day fund our non-recurring or non- lapsing fund that goes um that that's held by the town um and that is not reflected on this budget so neither the cost like the the income that's coming in from the non-aps fund nor the expense is reflected in this budget I've asked that in future budget reports that be here as a separate line so that the so that the report reflects the full uh the the full app so just that just to be aware fully covered by the plan that we all agreed on last May um special ed um so if you uh look at the special ed blah BL the special ed benefits is showing a surplus of $23,000 that's due to Insurance adjustments where uh staff are not taking the full Ben full insurance benefits um that were budgeted um the the special ed services line is showing a deficit of $4,190 that's new and that is because um of two students who moved into The District in August and enrolled in magnet schools in New Haven and we did not know about this uh until uh just a week ago um so uh we are responsible because they are our students they're students in our district we're responsible for their magnet school tuition so that wasn't reflected previously because we didn't know about it and now we do and so it's reflected as a new uh balance against us in the special ed um put all put this all together we end up with a uh special ed of uh surplus of 70 of $7,888,000 in uh in custodial staff uh benefits shows a surplus of $22,600 that's due to adjustments made insurance coverage also primarily in the custodial Department Services is status quo other line budget line item is also status quo these are um uh deficits of a couple hundred dollars and put it all together the operations and overhead um account shows a A marketly reduced deficit uh of $4,055 um add it all up and we have a balance in our favor at the end of August of $443 180 and that puts us in a good position to manage any unexpected expenses that emerge over the course of the year for example uh the roof project which was not originally budgeted but you know it became clear that that was something we needed to do urgently um the total costs I don't think are are clear yet but they're much less than 44,000 and so we're well covered for things like that as they come up over the remainder of the year um on the report you see uh you don't see a lot of percentage changes and that's just because this early in the year remains you will start to see those in in January probably because it remains uh difficult to compare to when we're this early in the year um any questions about this report that's presented I'm sorry a couple other notes we we are still waiting on reimbursements from ases for Paris salaries as well as prek funds which will uh be in our favor but we don't know the exact amount that's not reflected in this report um and uh that is it any questions about that uh report before we move to accept all right I will make a motion to accept the budget report um as of October 2023 as presented can I have a second let meita thank you um any further questions discussion before we move on to a vote hearing none I'll ask for the vote all those in favor please indicate by saying I I any opposed any exensions all right also in the finance committee we talked briefly about the audit which is still underway it's going along firmly going along nicely nothing to report but also no problems uh have emerged um finally we talked a little bit about the budget and I'll take just a moment uh to describe that to remind people of the budget process so for the last couple months you know basically as soon as this year starts uh Kay and Brandy and the rest of the staff begin working on next year's budget and um the starting point that we always ask that in has been our process for some years now we asked them to compute a status quo budget the status quo budget is if nothing changed if we kept the same Staffing that we do now if we with you know maybe if there are changes that are you know baked in or that have already happened uh and then take into account contractual increases and so forth and also if we don't include Grant offsets because offsets May fluctuate year to year what would the cost be and that's our Baseline number um last year to REM you the Baseline number was 7.96 increase and then after we went through the adjustments for you know various in the various departments and so forth added in the grant offsets the final budget was 3.58% so this um status quo budget is a high number that's kind of the starting point for the work that happens over the next couple months um I and I know others were anxious about the status quo budget because of the uh salary increasing salary costs and inflation but when uh when when um Brandy put all the numbers in the status quo starting point is 8.11% or 0.15% higher than last year so it's puts us in really a very similar place to where we started last year um the um so anyway so so we'll see so now so we'll see where that land over the did I get that right or did I read this wrong because it says 4.4 start this is our status quo and that this is no that was okay I misspoke and actually the numbers aren't quite as good so I want to make very clear so I'm not giving a misleading thing so our Peak last year after adding stuff was 7.96 our status quo our starting point was 4.49% so we are a few points higher than our starting point though not than our Peak when things were added I will say that that 8.11% in addition to to including the um contractual increases in salaries and in par salaries certified salaries and other things also includes that one teacher remember I said that that there's that one teacher who we're paying for out of the non-aps account not out of the budget that teacher is included in this 8.11% so it's a true starting point um and we'll see where that goes so what's happening now is Kay and her staff are meeting with all of the different department heads and they're saying what do you need from next year not what was your number this year we'll give it to you again but rather what do you need for next year let's build that up from zero and have a true number of what you need next year and some of the Departments will need a little more than last year and some of the Departments will need a little less than last year and those will all go into the um the budget number um which over the next two months K will get those numbers and put them together and I guarantee she'll be ask hard questions about you really need that and did you think of this to make sure that those get us to realistic numbers um then we'll go to other things that may impact budget especially Grant offsets so we make estimates of the very conservative estimates of Grant funds that are uh that we can reasonably expect to come in and those will knock a couple perent off the budget and then at the end of the day we'll come to a number of what the uh request for next year is likely to be we'll have a pretty good sense of that in December and a firm request from K in January then between the January board meeting and the February board meeting the board has an opportunity to ask further questions and you know poke and PR on the numbers and say did you think of this and what about this do you really need that um before the budget comes to the board in February for vote and approval so in January we have the superintendent's proposed budget and in February we have the approv uh we the board votes to approve the budget so at the very beginning of that process our number is a bit higher than it was last year they're not they're barely higher than our Peak last year um and we will know a lot more over the next two months about how the rest of the um the rest of the anticipated expenses go and how the grants go and where we're going to land so so that is something we discussed um the goal is to present a final budget to the finance committee in December then there's room between then and January for feedback and further discussion and then present a superintendent request in January 12 years ago we then had multiple meetings between January and February before we finally got to our budget but in the last eight years the January you there's been enough input in back and forth in questions that the January numbers have been pretty much wor but that's something to be considered at that time questions about the numbers and I again I apologize for my misstatement of the numbers I was going more from my memory than the notes before me and that was an error uh so I apologize for that but uh questions either about the numbers I presented or about the process okay that concludes the financial report we move on to policy policy we did meet um but because of the change with the board members um Amy side to side ahead of time we usually go over numerous policies at once and we we talked about it further within the the meeting that we would um just re we would review the mandated policy so that the new board member sitting could then just take on those um because they're mandated and and they're more time sensitive than the recommended revisions and the technical revisions um which weren't as time sensitive so we we touched on a couple which we kind of spoke about who gave her uh was her report um I'm sorry about the meeting minutes approval meeting minutes um so we we won't get into detail this meeting but um they'll I guess review them more detail in December meeting and then the the new board members will have a more of a chance to to review those policies and before they have to make a vote right so there'll be some policies for first reading in December but they are policies that are mandated in which there's relatively little scope for discussion and then anything that was scope for discussion was pushed off further so that the new board will have time to come out to speak thank you L questions about policy yeah I just wanted to to bring to your attention um I'm sorry Sue is not here because she might offer some insight but I was looking over the the uh mandates in the policy agenda and I went to try to cross check what was mandated with uh what's represented at C as mandated policies and it it's not matching up so I'm not quite sure why um some of the policies that were in your agendas are titled as mandated but if I go to cab they're only recommended I don't know if maybe Sue got different advice from the attorneys or if it's we do get input both from C and from the attorneys okay on what's mandated but it we could one could certainly ask for details on like where that where the Mandate comes from but a lot of the mandated the mandated language does does come from our attorneys okay so maybe Shipman and Goodwin has a list like cave that would be handy if they do have such a thing it would be nice to have so that I'm not confused about what's mandated and what's recommended and to be clear often the mandates like they need to be changed to align with language in the statute but that doesn't necessarily mean that every single word like it's not like the statute has the whole policy it says You must do this the statute just change a certain language and then the policy needs to be Rewritten to align with that language but I understand that but um yeah but but yeah it's always the it's always the policy committee's uh prerogative to ask for more information the I'm just trying to reconcile what's mandated and what's not and couldn't do it with P anym um thank you any further questions uh about policy and then we move on to transportation appication is not met uh and that concludes our committee reports we have no unfinished business to return to De we move on to new business uh and we have a discussion of the school calendar yes so all right so this evening you're going to see two proposed calendars for your consideration um I've shared with you previously that um some of the rationale for why I'm presenting two different calendars but the first calendar you will see essentially mirrors the dates and times we currently have for this school year and that we've had for years past with the extended weekend in February where we have uh President's Day plus one additional day the second calendar that I'm presenting to you this evening includes a full week off during the month of February and I'm presenting this calendar for two reasons um one was a request from The Amity superintendent to add at least three additional days to the calendar to help extend the school year in order to accommodate the senior internship program at Amity so that many of our any students uh that have benefited from that and I know will benefit from that as they transition up to Ami over the years that this program can continue to exist they're currently experiencing a challenge um where it's becoming more difficult to offer students these meaningful internship experiences because of the shortened school year um just so you're aware Amity has to navigate around AP exams which are mandated by the college boards to be within that first two weeks in uh May then they have Memorial Day then they can't do things too far into June because they have to have the students back before graduation to do all of their senior activities and so the internships which used to be about 3 weeks long are now about 8 or n days so um she did indicate that they could look at other options for them to consider ways to get more time for the students but I did let her know that in the spirit of collaboration I would present it to you for your consideration as it is your your decision uh the second reason to consider making the adjustment to the calendar um is that our earlier end time in June causes an adverse impact for my special ed program our special ed program um because it increases the amount of time that our students that are identified to receive services are out of school so right now if we were to end on June 9th there were no snow days and you all know I love a good snow day if we were to end on June 9th we're looking at almost three and a half weeks of those students being out of school and not having any services and then we have our program and then it's potentially another three and a half weeks three to three and a half weeks on the other end um for those students so that's one of those things where even if we choose not to add the additional days um I just want to be totally forthright and say that might mean we'd have to extend our esy program for our special education students so that they're not out of school as long as they are on either end uh of that programming which obviously has a budgetary impact so uh I also want to just share in full disclosure uh well there was one additional thing that came out uh there are a group of students from Amity who I believe sent you all a proposal um with regards to wanting to add additional religious holidays uh to the calendar if not for this proposed calendar the 24 25 year but maybe in the 25 26 year they're looking to have uh the boards of Education in all of the districts within the boa region to consider adding e Al fur and Dali uh which are two Muslim holidays to the calendar Muslim and Hindu Muslim and Hindu holidays thank you for that um so those are some of the reasons uh some other things that have come up since then and I just want to be fully transparent and let you know that orange has not committed to supporting any additional time off February I don't know exactly how that conversation is going to go when Dr scarpetti meets with his board um I have had conversation with bonda tensa who's the superintendent in Woodbridge um she's only going to present the kind of I'll call it the traditional calendar the first version of the calendar but is providing all the same background information that I've just shared with you to her board for their consideration um in the calendar and you know as much as we try to align ourselves as the four districts often times we are not aligned right so when I think back to last year we had a later end date because we had a burst pipe we didn't have any school you know Amity Woodbridge and Bethany had one additional snow day orange chose not to have that snow day because there was no snow on the shoreline so even though we try to be as aligned as we possibly can sometimes it just doesn't work so that is all the information that I have for you uh regarding my calendar proposal so when he do you need the calendar approve so typically I would present it now and then you all would have to think about approving it in December there's nothing to say that it must be done in December so this board because I realize that this is one of those things that straddles between you know outgoing board members incoming board members it's here now for your consideration you can certainly have me present it again in December and then the board can decide to either vote on it in December if they feel like they have enough information or they can take action on it in January okay because it's unusual this year that we don't have more alignment and agreement between the administrations if the administrations are the line and coming saying hey this makes sense we should do it everyone agrees right then it's it's a it's a virtual you know it's a non-decision whereas what you're telling us right now is there isn't alignment and we may we may get there we may not which is a little more complicated so that that's my question so okay does the Bea have an opinion um the when I met with the Bea they supported the second option of the calendar I mean obviously they're they're comfortable and they they've always had the other um calendar but they had no issue and actually thought that people would enjoy having that full time off uh in February and you know get some of the coties out of the building which te are you know having that break because once we go back into it there's no other time off until April vacation between the what we I I lovingly call fake Break fake Break in February till April vacation do do you feel like experientially there's a dip in absenteeism following a vacation so we looked at the data and it's actually we do have some Peaks you know that might be outliers we're averaging about an extra 6% uh in terms of absenteeism but it's actually that Friday before so it's not always even the week of the break people take the days before so like the Thursday Friday they take instead of coming back and taking the Tuesday the Wednesday Thursday they'll take the Thursday Friday before and then they're out Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Monday Tuesday and they may come back to school on Wednesday okay so I looking at this and I being at Amity I am aware of the internship issues um if we say that we need to extend the calendar for a variety of reasons my concern is a small group of people just picking that it's February break that we add back in because I think that has potential to have a large impact on families having to take off weeks if we're not going to align with our districts older siblings watching younger siblings and things like that um I think that there should be a little bit personally think there should be a little bit more exploration on where some of these can go if we're looking looking to add three you let's say anywhere between two to 4 days to the end of the calendar if the addition of holidays is something that's considered and is going to add two more days to the school year there's two right there so if we adopt February break plus those two now we're looking at 5 days out um I would you know trying to look at the calendar and come up with some other ideas like just to throw out there for parents to we go aate week later maybe we come back a week later there's different school districts I Tred to look into a little bit of research to see how many schools were doing a full February break um I just I grabbed 30 schools that were semi similar to us in our area there are four that are doing regular February break um there were two that go back after Labor Day um other things that Poss these are just other ideas that I'm looking at and just throwing out there if we're worried about absenteeism how's that Wednesday before Thanksgiving look for our attendants probably not all that great as my guess if people are looking we're thinking about families I don't personally travel and jump on a plane but I know there are a lot of people that do jump on planes and usually that Wednesday before Thanksgiving is one that maybe staff members family members could use um the day before Christmas Eve that's two days if you did something like that plus if we add the two holidays there's four right there so I think it has those things should be considered before just jumping on let's just throw February break back in there there's an 80% of people that want February break back back in the community that by all means do it yeah I think it has to be asked and I think that that data has to be gathered for more than just a small group of board members from each town and four superintendents from each Town yeah we did look at a lot of those and I suspect that this conversation is taking place across the state because we received a caps survey on it and usually caps doesn't send a survey to superintendent say hey do you currently have any of the Muslim holidays or have you considered going back to February break unless there's something else going on so yes it was brought to us because of um the question posed by Amity but I suspect that it's it's even bigger than that and certainly I can go back and and try to work out lots of different other options um to the calendar but at the end of the day we'll have to figure out you know do we want to add days number one to the calendar do we want to all do we want to add any of these other holidays if we add the holidays to your point Angelo then we're already extending the day we don't need to necessarily touch the February break but the challenge with some of those holidays is that they don't always land on the same day in any calendar year so it might be that those holidays all in one particular year fall on a weekend then it doesn't help us with extending the calendar unless we come up with some sort of policy or practice that says if it falls on the weekend it's a Saturday we'll give we'll have off on the Friday if it falls on the Sunday we'll have off on the Monday so there's I think exploring exploring the options and putting them all on the table and slowly weeding them out would be I think the more prudent action than just jumping right into yes or no next month February break back in or out okay okay one question I had in terms of the districts not being aligned yet for the for emity that's necessary correct I mean it's made up of all of our districts so I mean ideally everybody would be the same thing so that the internship if that's one of the main issues yeah it's it's better for them if we're all aligned and it's actually it's more the the the reason that Angelo brought up is that for families that have kids in the different schools it makes it a little bit easier to know that if my third grader is out my seventh grader my high school they're all going to be home at the same time yet it's when we are out and Amity isn't then that creates problems for families we're relying on older children to um little bit of History we had until about 10 years ago the full February break and that was in a period when we were having a lot of snow days several several uh years in a row and we were getting pushed well into June and so we cut back on the February break at that time because of uh you know to so that we didn't run the risk of going into late June uh because of snow days it's been a long time since we've had lots of snow days so uh you know that that so from that historical perspective one could go back to uh to the full BRD and then another question I asked K about this so the two holidays um if I remember correctly I think it's a is in the fall in they they both move they're both holidays that move it's usually lunar it's usually follows the lunar calendar and one of them I no I think it's D diali is in the fall Dali is like in a week from now in November in November and I is in March next year though again it may move around March is a great time to take off an additional day because the the um you know there's a gap there um but anyway so that but that's that's kind of where they would fall but they they do move around as K pointed out um and the argument is that you we're taking Good Friday off as a Christian holiday we're taking um y Kapur and rashash off as Jewish holidays and to to you know take one day off for um for Islam and Hinduism with that's that's motivating the students request so things to discuss very it's it's challenging being in a conjoin District here right because we can't you know it' be complicated for us just to decide without having a clear idea with the is to do okay any further questions or conversation about the calendar hearing none we move on to the superintendent sure that would be me all right so as usual in your packets you'll find the enrollment summaries for 2122 and 22 23 um this year we started uh off with 445 students and as of October 31st uh our enrollment is currently at 44 six so we're holding pretty steady um I don't know that we'll we'll experience a bump in enrollment until if anything in the spring you don't usually have a lot of families moving in in the November to January time frame uh by way of a Personnel update Valerie kman has joined our team as the new BCS office Clerk and lunch Aid Brook F has joined us as a special education par professional and uh with mixed REM motions I share that Miss Abby Slater a special education par professional will be leaving her position at BCS because she's continuing her journey to become a teacher Abby will be going into full-time student teaching and so she'll be transitioning onto that and we wish her all the very best as she does that she's been a remarkable uh employee here at BCS any questions on Personnel before I go into my abbreviated version of the budget report because you've already kind of shared it can I go back to the enrollment I may have misunderstood but there's two kids that went to n Haven to a magnet school is that correct so they moved into Bethany the family moved to Bethany and then they registered with a magnet school in New Haven New Haven notified us at the end of last week that they had two Bethany students there and they sent us the bill for tuition okay so the students never came and sat in seats here in Bethany that's what I was trying to figure out that didn't minus your numbers okay yeah so they they're not in our our numbers there so thank you for that um and by way of the budget development process as Dr piter said we are well underway tomorrow is actually uh budget Thursday where Brandy and I will sit down and have a marathon of meetings uh with maybe that should be a new holiday and it's one day for just me doesn't matter for everybody else um so uh we will be working on all of that again with the hopes of having something to present to the board um sooner rather than later so it'll be our our week of project Brandy night been a lot of time together coming up and then lastly but not technically listed in my report I would like to thank Dr piter Mrs White Dr we we just a c Nita for all their years of service to the children The Faculty the staff uh here at Beth Community School you've shared your time your talents and sometimes your sanity showing to meetings as a cow um to ensure that we're providing a quality education for the kids in our community and we are enally grateful for that have something for forward and I'm going to ask the audience to indulge us just a round of applause for [Applause] all now that you'll have so much time so so Rob we return your wife back to you I know your husband isn't here we return the back to you and Jenny he's and [Music] that all right we move on to the the direct thank you so much that's the last time you'll hear that I don't know you never know cretive okay so I want to talk today about professional development on November 7th um our classroom teachers worked with Margie Gillis from literacy how and that's to further our work in science of reading the focus was on comprehension which is something we can all learn more about par professionals worked with a Special Education team and they were reviewing individual education plans student programming and working closely to learn as much as they possibly can about the students and Specialists receive professional development in their own areas or they followed my pathway which is a new professional learning series that we have and um it's an online resource with on demand professional learning opportunities and a number of topics and in the area of curriculum you'll be glad to know the science of reading waiver um kird Andrea hover and I met with the state department of Ed and we met to discuss our waiver they had a few questions for us so we were able to provide some samples from our resources as well as our curriculum and we are supposed to hear back with everything crossed on December 1st so then we might be able to know how to move forward in next steps that's a good step forward it is a good step forward so we'll see we'll see how it goes show them the little thing that says you're a school of Distinction I I trust me anytime I can tell them and share some good data I do great big h p for that we should have had shirts made or something I mean I did want to wear one to my boa meeting because we got the results on that Wednesday I believe you now that you can put on your oh we can put it on our letterheads do you have that I I think you get that eventually you get the right to use that for the year on your letterheads and stuff like that and we're waiting on our Banner we want all the things all the things all the things yeah all right thank you thank you any questions for Mrs Keel or comments on anything report other than the schools all right Mr re what's going on in the school a lot so uh we have been busy uh and it's always one of those things that's kind of interesting uh you know I reached back and all the stuff that we've done since we we were last here uh Friday right after board meeting was was really eventful we started in the morning with the Lions Club doing their uh their annual dictionary uh presentation to the third graders uh we had the boo bash in the evening uh fire prevention came on the 19th was really wonderful um we had pink walk to school day on the 20th it was a little bit of rain we made it we're tough um it was a bit of rain um the book fair of the week of the 23rd uh was wonderbly successful um and that um as Melissa shared coincided with conferences we had our evening conferences on the um the evening of the 25th and then the afternoon of the 26th thank you to the P for the food Mar lives on his stomach um and plenty of pizza to eat um before and after school music lessons have started been really great uh I showed up to the instrumental music lessons and there were actual like musical sounds coming out of the instruments I was really excited I I was I was mildly terrified at first and like they sounded really good um so it's been going really well uh we got quite a bit of participation so we're really excited about that and we're working towards uh both the winter and the fall the winter and the spring for some of our performances uh second grade went to Clover Nook uh and then they just had their pumpkin Pop Shop uh last Friday which was wonderful our community meeting celebrated growth mindset um and PTO wonderfully donated a whole bunch of posters they get uh one copy of every poster from the book fair so we were using those uh for our um our ruffle Prize winners uh which the kids were really excited about um Halloween parade was on uh the 31st was great went through the town hall um kids were elated about doing that that was super fun um and then we had our family literacy night uh on the 1 uh which was really wonderful able to come here um Andrea Hub Jamie Bowen really l a wonderful presentation here we gave parents little a chance to kind of decouple from the kids they went and had a story had some pizza they got to adult for a little bit um and then we run around and had different stations and really took a look at like what does this look like when we're talking about science of reading like what's that look like in practice what can you do with your kids at home like what are some really great games that are both wonderfully fun a little competitive and also will help them with um learning to read uh and then we had vision and hearing screens on the 1 uh and if you didn't hear uh we also found out that we were a school of Distinction um I it's new news uh and uh and we had 11 of our gentlemen who were uh who are un9 champions and they're going to Boston and you don't need to give me another excuse to drive on up to Boston so um looking forward we've got Seth cus and Adam Carbone uh we're really grateful for them they're coming in on Friday to do a presentation to our kids uh on Veterans Day so we're really excited they've both really been uh here and helping us with that for the past few years so it's wonderful to have them in American Education week is next week so we're really excited to both have families and community members coming in we're also going to be having the kids celebrate different members of our uh School Community there as well uh computer science for all uh is an after school club Focus focusing on uh coding uh and computer science for kids and it was actually an idea that was brought forth by a sixth grade student um so we had a wonderful student who was like Hey this would be really cool if we had a coding club and we were like hey correct and so she led the way and Mr defasio has jumped on and he's taking he's taking that on it's going to meet for about 15 16 weeks um every Tuesday afternoon I believe so uh really excited that that's getting going um awesome when are leave away uh our community meeting this month is focusing on gratitude uh as your heard picture retake is on the 28th snowflake shop starting in early December and report cards will be going out on the 8th so that's what we got going on okay thank you any questions for Mr Reed and comments on any of the matters he use discussed how many people came to the parent uh families came to the parent literacy night sounds really interesting and I'm going to go about something yeah it was really great um and it was nice because you you know then we had a we had a bunch as they rotated through we're able to kind of have a session proper here you know just kind of thinking about the the research and and the Brain science behind it you know and then traveling around different stations around the building um and we had I think eight or nine staff who were here leading the way on that um so it was really just great to have that participation and for them to kind of you know not hear it from some like like an outside consultant or some random person on the zoom but like our people you know like Miss sniff showing you how to do it you know Mrs lasser's here helping out so really great to have those and to be in person and sounds very interactive sounds really yeah good very effective yeah got botle it was super fun any other questions or comments okay move on to uh chair's report uh we had a board open Forum in late o what October 20 something uh on Zoom it was well attended number of board members were there thank you uh we had a good discussion of a number of topics nothing uh you know terribly surprising or controversial but some good you know some good input um from parents uh and so so I thought it was useful uh and I want to thank both board members and community members including teachers who came to that event uh the cape conference is next Friday spilling over into Saturday uh in Mystic and that's a great opportunity for current and future board members to to go can future board members AR sworn in yet can they attend so may maybe next year okay but it's a great opportunity to go and meet other board members and then you know get attend workshops on various topics um get swag from vendors you know lots of little Racers St uh so that's uh I think that's worthwhile the um our board will be uh receiving for the eth year in a row uh Board of Distinction award from uh or Board of Excellence Board of something really good like good adjective um so uh I'll be able to um to receive that award um and then uh on November 28th since we will have several new board members joining us um Amy and I with Kay have uh have scheduled a uh uh meeting on November 28th from 5:30 to 7:30 in the evening and we hope that though the they won't be sworn in yet that future board members will be able to attend and that's an opportunity uh to um you know on board people and talk about uh how the board works some of the things that are obvious some of the things that are really counterintuitive like open meetings laws and and Freedom of Information and confidentiality and all that stuff um we're scheduling this because be since the elections were moved the new board members really are are going to have to jump right in the middle um right in the middle of budget season new policies coming up there was you know it's it's it's going to be very much on the the job training and so uh we thought that it would be uh useful for the new board members to have that opportunity to to jump in and I will attend that um is this an orientation yes is that is that yeah orientation and early training yeah um so that again is scheduled for November 28th from 5:30 to 7:30 where Bo of office Board of bed office okay um that's it for upcoming items um this is my last uh board meeting um I've been on the board of ed for about 14 and a half years I've been chair for eight and if you'll indulge me I want to say just a couple things couple things about the past a couple things about the future um about the past so I've been here as I said 14 years four superintendents four principles although Once Upon a Time We called them house masters and there were two of them at the same time and it was very confusing um and so there's been a lot of change on those over those years and I think that it has really been remarkably good in a lot of ways and I want to highlight a couple one is when I joined the board there was a lot of tension and distrust between the Board of Ed and the board of finance and the broader Community communication wasn't very clear and that led to people second guessing and you know thinking that things were be that budgeting decisions were being done for you know improper malicious reasons and so forth and it was it was poisonous and it wasn't good for anyone and over the course of several superintendents uh We've streamlined that process we've improved communication and openness um and uh improved the budgeting process made it more transparent and I think it shows in the relative ease with of our budget process over the last at least eight years if not more where the board of Finance can see what we're doing they have confidence and so our conversations with them are easy if we're asking for money they know we need it if we don't need it we don't ask for it and we go in with low budgets and and that's been a remarkable change over the time that I've been on the board um there have been a lot of changes in the way we teach kids in in curriculum um some of these are just changes in the way Education Works in general but but really I've been impressed with the leadership that this school has shown so so I remember Everyday Math any you remember Everyday Math oh I know so you know just an example of a you know math curriculum that I personally not a fan that's been dramatically revised and so um I've been impressed with you know the way the math curriculum has evolved the way that uh this the school has taken advantage of the teachers College reading program and then moving on to other other reading resources and really staying a breast of the you know current thinking about the best way to to teach our kids and we saw scores today you know we saw that we're doing things right there always room for improvement we will always strive for that but we did you know we saw that and that's been a that's been a real change uh over the time that I've been here I feel that the um the climate and um how we work together as a as a as a community within the school working with our teachers has has been through strains the pandemic was was just disastrously difficult for everyone but overall as I look at the over the years um I I feel that there's been Improvement there um we've always people are always talking about teacher turnover and and you know teachers leaving we've been talking about that for 14 years and I'm sure for much longer than that we're a small District um we aren't the richest District in in the school and I mean in the state and so we've always had you know great teachers come they train here um and then they move on however I think with the last couple contracts and especially the last one we've really done a lot to to uh make this a place where people will want to stay by reducing the number of steps in our contract and making our higher level uh teachers our entry level teachers were already competitive making our higher level teachers competitive and I look forward to seeing in future years a return to uh teachers staying here longer because they know that they're valued and that they're compensated appropriately and it doesn't take them forever to move through the step scale so um and also with with changes that have been made over the last two superintendents about participatory leadership within the school where teachers have been given ample opport opportunities to work together on you know the steering committee and other opportunities to really make a difference and feel empowered um I think that's something that really makes people love the place that they're at and we do see teachers who could move for more money elsewhere lots of them and choose not to because this is a great place to work so again there always room to improve to continue to you know work together but the the feeling of working together as a community of transparency and fairness and accountability of showing people that they're valued um I really think has been something that's improved over the the time I've been with ups and downs and again the pandemic was a disaster and it was hard for everybody but um but the the general trajectory I think uh I think he good so I want to highlight that and finally um and this will transition into a few comments I want to make looking to the Future um the board itself when I uh when I uh joined the board was was a difficult and tense place um there was a lot of partisan ranker on the board at that time um there was a lot of distrust uh it wasn't always Pleasant um we had a few individual board members who are long long since gone but who sort of you know stirred the pot lot and and made it uh made it less Pleasant to work on and that's changed dramatically over the time I've been here um I I think that we as a board have worked uh very collaboratively together I think it's telling that the vast majority of our votes are unanimous uh that show you know we we talk about things and I think that because we treat each other with respect we don't come to things from a partisan angle um and uh we we keep kids first uh first first and foremost in our mind it usually becomes pretty clear you know what what the right answer is when it doesn't when we do have things like again during the pandemic like the issues of masking like other issues where we don't have alignment where we do have disagreement we're able to talk about those things in a way where the disagreements can be fairly sharp and the votes are not unanimous and we move on we we work through those difficulties together they're rare but because of the investment that we as a board have made in you know in uh mutual respect and collegiality we were're able to move uh forward through those rare challenging things when they do come up and that's been a pleasure to see over the time on the board and I do want to say um I take some pride in that change uh over the years um and in how we've functioned over the last eight years I take some pride that we've gotten the cave award for the eight years um the for for the last eight years I take some pride in the fact that for the last four years this has been a republican majority board and yet the board has chosen to keep me a Democrat on as chair I think that's a nice symbol of the uh the way that we have been able to work um collaboratively and so thinking about the future we are going to have a um a dramatic change in board compos in in board composition three new members um we're going to change to a m large majority six to 63 Republican majority board actually that's what it was when I joined um and uh I think that it's uh really and you know there'll be different personalities people coming with with different backgrounds and different views that's fine that's as it should be um but I want the board to keep in mind both the you know the members who are staying on as well as the new members to keep in mind the things that I just said about what has made us successful over the last decade what has made us successful is keeping Kids First in our minds what has made us successful is respecting our administrators understanding what their job and what's ours not micromanaging and not getting in their way um seeking consensus and collaboration whenever we can recognizing when we don't know something and seeking to educate ourselves on that before moving forward taking the time that we need to do things and always seeking collaboration respect and keeping kids first and foremost in our minds above any personal ideas we may have come to the table with above any political or partisan concerns that we may have had above of what we may be hearing from others in the community keeping the kids first because that's what we're here for so I hope looking to the future we can take lessons from I think a very successful last decade continue that momentum partnering with a wonderful administrative team let them do their job and uh keep doing what we're doing for the kids because we're doing the right thing we just need to stay the course thank you all for the faith you put in me allowing me to be chair thank you all for being willing to sit here during the last 11 minutes as I on on I've never done this before so um and um I wish you all the best thanks Chris that ends my Chairman's report do we have any correspondents we do not alas this brings us to our second and final opportunity for visitors public comment I'll ask if anyone is here uh wishes to address the board here at the end of um I'd like to you back Chris Chris could could you please state your name oh I'm sorry for the record I can't I can't relax the rules at the end Chris on behalf of the CCS Community you deserve thank you for all you've done as chair of this board for almost a decade and a member for almost a decade and a half just shy whoever takes your place big boots to with new board members coming in next month and you stepping down I just wanted to encourage all the board members present and incoming that when you vote for a replacement chair that you choose someone who has similar values professionalism and neutrality capabilities Chris you have been able to see every side of any situation and predicament way the pros and the cons and guide the board through discussions to the ideal move for what is best for the entire School community and always putting our kids first I encourage you all to choose someone who values and understands education the system as a whole as well as the roles and responsibilities within it a chair who seats the need for equity and inclusion for all of our students who speaks calmly collectively and rationally who attends full board meetings as well as their committed assignments and who has a full grasp of all of our policies and procedures we have been so very fortunate to have you pres in that seat and we should be ever so fortunate to have someone with similar characteristics equable Dem to thank you anyone else wish to address the board before we close for the evening hearing none we are Jour don't get [Music] keep just shift it around [Music] I just came actually just came from conferences of the Middle School oh middle schol yeahor one conference and it's at the worst time 5:00 when I'm like even if I Mo the 510 make my life so easier for 5 sleep there thought
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61 61.1 selection and evaluation of instructional materials policy first paragraph I almost to go on but there's more but this is in the regulation anyway you come down on the first page under criteria and selection and Adoption of instructional materials and item two says do not reflect adversely upon persons because of Any characteristics specified in law and board policy 0410 non-discrimination and District programs and activities nor contain any sectarian or denominational Doctrine or propaganda contrary to law the implication is that we have lawful propaganda and so that I think that should be re worded give a little more thought I think what's what's meant there is to not have propaganda involved and and not to to imply that there's lawful propaganda [Music] okay okay I'm just trying to like look at the part where because it's sectarian or denominational Doctrine or propaganda I was trying to see if maybe there should be some other like comma or maybe they I don't know saying not to have any of yeah I was like trying to read it like nor contain any sectarian to law legal propaganda I don't disagree with what you're saying I'm just trying to make you know understand it a little bit better Le to be rewarded what is your recommendation just believe out contrary law because the propaganda is propaganda that should be e and what did was that one of the things that was changed me from the that's why I like looking at that changed one no it was not changed it wasn't anything Chang it was original yeah that we had from 20 in 2010 originally I mean that was my background was doing a public so I don't know the difference so I I'm I'm I'm sorry I'm just trying understand so the propaganda contrary to law so your thought is all propaganda is no no no if you're only not going to do propaganda that's contrary to law that means you can still do propaganda that is accordance to law that is accordance to law the whole concept well according to the definition it's not because propaganda is defined as information especially of a bias or misleading nature used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view and is further defined as the spreading of ideas information or Rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution a cause or person so if it's helping or injuring then there is that's defin it's good or bad that's just the point of view well that's the definition again we can all think about it and decide next month as a board if we think it's important for us to change the verage okay well there was my input for what it's wor all right those are just information items [Music] um anyone else want to talk about those all right all right how about presentation and discussion of student achievement data cppp High ready and California school dashboard report uh Michelle and I chatted about this one this afternoon and um we're going to request that we push this to the December meeting um our staff has just recently gone through a training uh with folks from IR ready on our achievement data and how to analyze that disseminate that and then apply it to daily lessons um so they're working on that right now grade level team so they're still having those discussions uh we're probably about 80% there uh the other piece to this that um we thought would be out there's of Califoria dashboard um has not been populated yet but by the time we get to the next meeting most of it will so it will be record um and so it would some of the data that we will have hasn't been released and we can't share with with the public at this time um so um I'm going to ask that we table this to the December meeting so that we have a thorough discussion and not look like well we're withholding information which kind of we are because it's not been released for public consumption yet um so if if we can just table this to the next meeting then you'll have a thorough thorough presentation for you I have a question so we did I already last year too right so what's new that we're learning in these that we didn't know before to to agregate this data I don't think there's necessarily anything new there's some new teachers and new assignments um so they're still trying to look at that and with RTI with the kids that are being placed in the RTI and how they're how they're kind of like grouping kids is um new for for some staff members okay so and it's really refining process of taking that data um because last year was really the introduction of it and we we have not I don't know that we will ever perfect it but we haven't gotten as proficient yet as we need to be and that's why we did another round of train just in the last couple weeks and they're following up in grade level teams to have those discussions so it's really about refining our practices as opposed to bringing something new okay I just feel like in December and and I understand the data is not there but by December the school year is halfway over and we don't really have any idea how our kids are doing actually we do because they have we don't right right we have the results and that's what our staff is working with right now okay and then so we'll be able to compare that data to how our students performed back in the spring on the cast that okay yeah thank you what is the will of the board do we want to postpone it well we don't have a choice we need to postpone we don't have we don't have material to present to the public okay we can't still in but okay so that's essentially table dur month okay um enrollment report so just like the previous month it had gone up a little and again we had some good gains to more students a few at each site so that's awesome to see that especially halfway through the year you know we had one family move in a few kids at one of the districts um people moving [Music] around I don't know if any of that's shown in the inter District transfer court but very good to see that number going back up closer to it was last year which was 8:46 so we're at [Music] 8:23 okay no comments on that okay inter District transfer report as you can see on the agenda it in The quick summary we've had one inter District transfer out of our district to Clovis Unified and two transfers into the district one from Raymond nlls and one from uni since our last report very good okay I have a question where's Mrs Peterson on the list she's not on wasuma thank you Rhonda you're missing from the list I have for some time R you're in RTI but she's still should be at the bottom but your name could still be there like you know anyway I TR report for to plug in the numbers but I do need to add her there Miss T and at the bottom she's doing a great job she they say the best for last I'm already on my spret okay okay thank you apologize okay how about number nine accomplishments and other reasons to celebrate from throughout the district o c Elementary School take it away Madam do I am I getting up and just talking it will be easier for Genie to hear or you could bring it to you so we have a lot things to celebrate here that microphone not loading mine's loading [Music] restart okay still too short okay um so Trish haek and her family they had um Corbin and so they welcome Corbin into the world he was born on October 15th we have uh our classes taking off of great field trips kindergarten took a field trip to the sugar pane Railroad on October 25th fourth grade um went to the cor schol Historical Museum they learned about acorns gold brush whole variety of things and they they really enjoyed that we have a lot of had a lot of fun Halloween activities on campus a staff costume was Disney theme we had a K2 Halloween parade classes did um all kinds of fun Halloween activities that day um really exciting we have Tam D now coming to OES and uh teaching music to our students um it's really fun the kids stand up and are singing and dancing they're learning all kinds of music vocabulary [Music] um learning how to count music notes beat versus Rhythm and everybody loves it our teachers and students are thrilled uh we have first of that's for K2 and then in grades 3 through five we have um Miss Donna coming and doing art with our students and so um that began last week I believe so that was really fun um grade five we also just like Mrs Peterson said we also have Caroline hoer coming and doing um the classroom Iris project with us and so the graders love that they pled all kinds of irises in the front of campus and so that's really exciting everybody's enjoying that can't wait to see in blue um Miss gin's class this year learned all about um that or this month um they made these really cool bat diaramas at the end and put them on display on Halloween so we got to check that out uh in the second grade classrooms they did all kinds of fun science experiments candy corn dissolving they built these cool ramps and did um like exploring surface friction with pumpkins and so that was fun um checking and graphing fromin speed um they got to take a virtual reality field trip in the library put on by um Miss Kelly and Miss Barnes they visited Alaska Maine and Germany oh and South America and they learned about fall leaves um Miss Kelly is doing wonderful things in our library this month the theme was digital citizenship I guess I should say last month October was um our yhs big buddies have come we paired 43 students with high school big buddies and that happens on Thursdays and Fridays so that's most excellent um yeah so lots of per good things happening [Applause] here okay let's hear from wasuma Tim asking me to stutter and stumble and fall so he better do my best thanks so I can piggy back what cat was talking about with the high school buddies coming my daughter gets to be one of them and she totally loved the VR field trip so it's very cool it uh so conference week was well attended we have about an average of 85% of parent teure conference attendance always seems like a good idea to have Spirit Week dress up days the same week as conference week uh everybody got into it the new uh ones that the kidss wanted to do was have monochromatic Monday they got to wear a new order and everybody dressed all in red or all in Blue on purple most of them were on black but that was fine uh Mrs Frank Mrs sales classes uh one greatest percentage participation Mrs Frank second third graders c a 9 96% participation rate and Mrs Seal's fifth graders were 83% participation so it was really fun to see everybody get excited and all their wacky here uh we awarded 12 new pause character awards to our wild cats and GRS page rate who exemplify mum's PA expectations of having a positive attitude acting responsibly working hard and showing respect thanks to the new owners of The Hitching Post uh they were each provided with a certificate for a free ice cream Sund a couple of big um we have a couple of businesses in aani so so we're happy to partner with them whenever we can uh our annual Color Run was last week now or two weeks ago participation was higher than ever before even our Junior High kids were not too cool this year to run and get their very last color R shirts spray uh but dear thank goodness for our volunteers and our PTA because there was no way we could have done that all day long running almost 300 kids through and spraying them it was it was awesome I was worried it was going to be cold and it's absolutely perfect it's amazing it's one of my favorite events for sure uh our Middle School boys soccer and B basketball teams run away with coaches Frank mcmein and messenger and then a grand old time the weather is perfect for those Sports our other partnership with the Easter madere County SPCA has been going really well we have a couple of readers who aren't really dog people and so the SP Janette was amazing and she opened up the ctio been but they have an outdoor space where the cats can Sun themselves and lay on their little perches so we had our two cat lovers get to read to the cats while they were in the ctio space and they were over the sun themselves they were in heaven um our Littles had a chance to tour our fourth and fifth grade classrooms to VI the fourth graders they had been writing fables uh their their morals were great like swim in shark invested Waters and things like that and they made it was awesome they made diaramas uh showing their settings as well as some of the themes that were in there and then fifth graders had 3D book reports so the litts got to tour and according to one first grader they were epic word to describe them uh our leadership students have thank you grams available on campus for the next week this is something that we do every year it's a pre opportunity for any wild cat to write a note to another wild cat on campus and we pass them out the week before Thanksgiving it's awesome because the kids will write notes to their teachers and the bus drivers and everything it's just really fun or to their fig and little buddies uh our academic pentacon students are studying artificial intelligence which is super cool with a great topic for this year under the guidance of Mrs amatti and Mrs Springer uh I believe Mr Seal's attached Miss Kyle's November PBIS newsletter great topic this month I really appreciate she sends that out to um students and staff every month uh and gives a focus of what she's working on uh Mrs star and Mrs D after school choir club welcomed a brand new to us piano which was a huge hit as soon as Mrs star saw that thing go in the classroom she was running over there to spend her lunch checking it out playing told her leave the door open so we could all listen uh she's been in a few of her L pict the piano oh yeah oh she's super excited uh they show the kids how it all works how you know everything how different it is from the old one which was probably older than all of this in all of us in this room uh but this is star whoever there recess and at lunch and play so it's super fun um and Mr Pan's fourth graders and Mrs Seal's fifth graders spent the last warm Friday right in sugarpine Railroad and learning a little bit about local history last week and um one other thing that I need to let you know uh John conington from the cor school resource Conservation District uh we've been in touch and our pollinator garden plants have arrived the weather however is not cooperating because he wants to get them in the ground next week and there's on the forecast so we'll see that's going be fun thank you and is that that's um what do we have we had um homecoming week with the high school and did they did that stuff with everyone and then the week of 27th through November 3rd we had a spirit week at oci that Miss o our um PBIS coordinator I believe we're calling now um helped us set set up and that was really fun we had silly sock day Halloween costume day crazy hair day sports Jersey day school spirit day we had a pie eating contest um with whipped cream and kids chaming their face and that kind of stuff um and then we had a competition between the team uh the home rooms to see who participated the most um and I gotta say a shout out to Eric CS over at uh at Round Table thank you um for hooking up up so well with the with the pizza so thoughtful um I realized at the last moment that I had ordered probably less than we really needed and within 10 minutes I was driving back with more pizzas those guys are awesome I mean I love his his weather here but he continues to be a great asset to to our schools in the community he and his wife both um and I dressed up as several people here did but Stephan recognized me as him so that was a success where's the picture I know the picture should be up here um let's see we have o aclon team starting me prepare for competition later the year jennif B Jackie and Laura Jeff are leading that up we just had first quarter um Awards oh we got okay see I'm act like I was really hurt by this but I was invited for that picture talk about [Music] that um that's very I've got down to it but we had U we have about 175 students we had 114 of them on academic honoral so 3.0 above and that we have 37 straight A and that's significant so that very cool to see lots of parents showed up um we've been we've changed our methodology to if you're going to get a um an award for whatever it might be it might be um for kindness or for for those types of things um personality tra kind of stuff or character award or grades whatever it is we're sending home parent squares to let people know to let parents know and we're getting them a much greater return and that's really been nice um and the parents really appreciate it um California California CET led by jennif bod Ron Baker and Terry Baker competed against other C quarterville recently uh we didn't bring him any prizes this time last time we got a couple first places this time not so much but it's have a great time they they met here at 4:00 I want to say in the morning outside of our school took off down to quarterville and computed all day and came home and it be um so that was good um the yoyo Club just started Mr Peterson's leading that up and Katie Thompson who's been highlighted before are working with that in after school program and we've been rearranging some of the other sports practices and things like that to allow for people to be involved in more want than students and that's been good girls basketball and boys soccer seasons are underway we have Mr pet coaching basketball and longcore coaching soccer um Mr Peterson's currently running a three versus three basketball tournament um at lunch recess and intermal sports like that so the kids have been enjoying that how many how many courts you going up right now time oh we have 11 teams right now 11 teams all right I think you said that we're going to get it down to the top four here shortly and then have a tournament and then he always uh provide some kind of uh price for the winners some kind of candy ice cream something like that that's enjoyable uh last time I believe it was a $10 what was that for that wasy gisy he gave the winter 10 bucks they thought they that was cool um let's see students have been uh been buying um different experiences with their PBIS rewards points that they've been earning um in fact Mr Peters just took 12 students again over to um round table and they got to enjoy the all Buffet over there uh one of the students told me both eatting 16 slices of P um there his reason was you know he spent 200 points on [Laughter] it we're going to we're going to have other experiences that we're selling R going to be helping us at the store tomorrow and we'll be selling those experiences as well as other objects you know things Sports balls stuffed animals which are surprisingly popular for middle schoolers um but they're cool um that kind of stuff and then we'll have our trip to John's Incredible Pizza also which be very that um and finally tomorrow we have I just went over with Heather to Wasim last week to listen to her give her parent talk on P motives and kind of get some wirers on I'm learning more how that's all working and we're going to have our introduction parents tomorrow at oci and let everybody know what's going on with that answer parent questions go through that kind of stuff take paperwork and get ready for that do you have a date for Camp green medic I need that right now well I mean if you want me to volunteer I will but I got to get it in sorry okay it's in March March 18th through the 21 okay well I mean you yes I'll put in request all right and you're going to be here tomorrow yeah yes awesome all right thank [Applause] you thank you superintendent report just briefly tonight and to follow up really on what we've heard from our principles in the last 15 minutes or so um it has been a blast to be out on campuses uh in the district the last few weeks with spirit week and homecoming week and all the dress up days and I will just share a quick anecdote but something that principal mcgree just mentioned uh on Spirit Week with the pie eating contest um it was a gorgeous weather day um as principal Archer stated it was the last war Friday um I'm in my office and I'm in a meeting I don't remember if it was a zoom or an inperson but we had all the doors and windows of the district office open enjoying the weather and all of a sudden I hear screams and people's yelling and I was like w hang on okay those are positive screams we're okay but there was a moment of panic from from me as to what and the heck just happened outside and U I was able to get up and go out on the on the the deor of the district office and uh had a had a straight shot view of the pting contest so it was a lot of fun a lot of student engagement um and the buzz on our campuses is unlike anything that we've seen since at least the pandemic before a lot of positivity a lot of all the events that they talked about um hosting those are by Design to um improve and build upon School culture and and all all three sites have their distinct culture and yet there's a lot of similarities as well and it's been it's been a blast to see that an action under the leadership of these C sitting over here um it's been Dynamic and it's it's a lot of fun to uh to watch um and to see the Buy in of our staff to so willingly jump in and volunteer and be a big part of that and um we'd be completely remiss if we don't mention all the positive aspects of our after school program uh and the partnership that we have with my club and what that has done and um you know other groups that predate that like Good News Club that we heard about earlier tonight um these These are activities that kids get up in the morning and they're excited to come to school because they get to participate in athletics or they're going to go to the choir club or whatever the other the activities might be and um we are cashing checks on those um each interview every day and and it shows it shows in our improved attendance rates because kids are genuinely excited to get to school and uh and being able to host the after school programming has actually helped our families particularly you have both parents who are working outside of the home then the kids are engaged with something that is worth well it's making a difference so a lot of positive a lot of positive reports and I just want to for those sentiments thank you that's my report for okay thank you I just need to make one correction I don't know if it was on our paperwork but the seeds that were donated were from Tractor Supply not true value so I don't know got mess it was boxes and boxes and boxes and did you bring some over the flowers veggies fruit so much thank you that did you hear that serve donation for it is but it says True Value that's what was attached okay thank you okay thank you board member comments um I'm just thankful thank you guys the principles I know you have a lot to do and then you prepared a little presentation for us but it's really cool for us to hear what's going on to schools and that like gives my heart Joy thank you very much so um that's all I have to say tonight and I will see you tomorrow okay thank you good um I had the opportunity to visit o at the end of October and I got to go into Christine's classroom and Michelle Burton's classroom thank you so much Michelle and also Stacy hin thank you for having me in and to R Ward's classroom so it was just great to meet teachers that I Haven met and see what's going on in classes and see the wonderful learning all about pumpkins and spiders and a lot of Halloween things but um but I continue when I go on campuses to see a pretty good behavior um overall and so I'm always thankful for that and just to see how well our teachers are are preparing lessons for these kids engaging lessons and how well the kids are responding so thank you to all staff thank you for coming yeah it's our pleasure thank you and so with uh Thanksgiving coming up in only two weeks can you believe that I wanted to share an email I received it's on gratitude and this says gratitude will shield you from negativity make you at least 25% happier rewires your brain eliminates stress heals improv sleep boost self-esteem and performance enhances the Law of Attraction and improves relationships so just want to share that attitude and [Music] gratitude for me okay I just want to thank everyone for coming been um a little different than last month's me you know so anyway just thank you for all the input from everybody and I don't have any further comments for tonight um okay future agenda items we' already talked about how we move the data discussion to next month okay other than that next month will also be our annual installation meeting with the change of officers all of that transpire okay first inter room is next month very good all right at the next meeting date is December 14 13 and we do not have to change the date right I don't know why I have it wrong on my calendar so we were good we had we Chang it and then we Chang it back or something okay I got change I think we all got that all right are there any public comment regarding our Clos session items before we go into okay not I'll call this P the public portion of our meeting Clos thank you all for coming
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three that's important because we have one major B market rate development that will hit in the next few years it's a brand new one which we discuss in a minute I've only listed SRO on there as an FYI occasionally the B market rate developments are these tiny little 325 squ foot um kitchenet type units and they don't have kids but none of those are projected here next slide please okay what I'm projecting is overwhelmingly in the Northwood and moral attendance area at first and then in the later years becomes Vincy Park and pedmont but really the for the short term the whole stories Northwood and moral uh other than um uh Vincy Park and moral for a below market rate development um that is on the north side of beresa um Road uh by the flea market and that was a mainly market rate development in the past it just shifted three months ago two months ago to being 195 um Regular B market rate units plus 100 market rate units um so that is going to generate more kids than we're expecting to pass for Vincy Park uh when we get past up to 2027 I actually think you have some growth in viny park as a result of that um you'll see the some other developments in Vincy Park as well so if I didn't show you the numbers by attendance area going out five years but five years out both Northwood and viny park could have more kids than now which means the declining numbers I showed you at the start are that much more concentrated in the rest of the district does that make sense to everybody next slide please just one second Tom on that slide with that um because I know there was a recent article regarding the plan sh shifting as well to uh the units from 3,000 being reduced down to a th000 I was I was it's 940 I was projecting 400 of that would be occur in 2027 and 2028 um which you're seeing there under Vincy Park pedmont and I think that number actually will still hold for the new okay plan if anything you might get a few more units not a lot more but a few more units because it's going be easier for them to build tow houses in this market than high-rise um buildings um because um when you build a high-rise building you're taking a loan out for multiple years and and the current interest rates that's just not economically feasible anymore so I think about 400 is still the right call obviously as we get Beyond 2028 there aren't there's only another 500 units left as opposed to 3,000 units left so in the long run we have far less units there but for the fiveyear forecast I don't think it makes a difference okay next slide please questions did I go too fast okay so so with the excuse me so with the uh current uh growth projected at Vincy Park and the addition of the new new units uh are we potentially looking at redistrict in that school also in the future or can you go back the slide that shows the schools it's table two one more okay Vincy Park actually has fewer students now than a couple years ago so you got some room to backfill from that growth I don't remember how what the number was a couple years ago but it it was a little bit higher than than 568 um so you have some room for growth and you'll see that in the short I'm actually projecting further decline because they have a big fifth grade graduating out um and small kindergart numers but there could be a point still probably not within three years but within in four to five years we need be looking at that but it's not an immediate issue and this um the the increase I mean the birth you your prediction is based on birth rates and things like that birth rates Trends through the grades and where the new housing is located and but but we don't consider um influx of immigrants or anything like that in this thing because that's not a that's a variable uh that we cannot control I only would consider that if I had a reason to believe the trend of the recent past would change uh or in this case the trend from 2016 to 2019 with some modification so unless there's a reason to say that that pattern is going to stop or greatly accelerate the bill and grade to grade rates already include that nuisance with some you know small deviation up or down over time um you know I had a case long ago in the El Grove School District near Sacramento where um a big lean group decided to relocate from Fresno Del Grove and apartments went from having like 10 kids to 200 kids overnight so there are times when you have that hit but and again in the almost 40 years I've been doing this there's only a half dozen times I've seen anything like that happen so the big issue is just the birth data it's just scary and it's not just scary here it's scary everywhere I think it's just the price of housing is making it impossible for families to live here in the numbers that they were living here 10 years ago right young families in particular and the students that are uh the children that are um in that in that chart that you showed the birth rates and the enrollment um so the students are moving out of state is is the is the idea do we know where we obviously cannot track them but uh is there do we have like the data from other states uh well yeah but it's hard to know if it's ours I will say that some Parkers like Sacramento still have growing numbers and I think that's relocating families that's where they're probably yeah yeah and I I can share just looking at our own barasa data because we do look at all of our exits and uh try to see you know what what's C what's that Mobility where are they headed and so for this current school year as we looked at who left us from last school year and didn't continue what we found was uh an aate movement um the most popular relocation state was Texas this year that was the the highest number was going to Texas last year it was Arizona Utah so it varies you know um this year it was Texas if they were leaving outside the Bay Area it was Tracy that's where we saw a lot of our families go and then uh within the Bay Area uh we saw a movement just next door to mil pus interesting because mil Pedas isn't cheap either so yeah thank you so much for the presentation I actually do um housing policy in my day job so this is actually very Illuminating to see how uh housing developments will affect our um enrollment I have a couple of questions for um the last slide I noticed that Brook tree had a significant um resident shift negative 51 but then isn't brooktree in that area usually single family homes is that I I'm just wondering like why that shift would be well again part of it is the difference between the graduating fifth grade amount and the incoming kindergarten amount um and there's a a significant share of middle inome detached homes on a tenance area and um although that is a stabilizing kindergarten population relative to the more affordable housing of the district it still has a much larger amount gradually on a fifth grade and that got uh one more side please back um go back to table two the first table two um but it does have some apartments as well in fact some of the stuff we shifted out of Northwood into Brook tree was apartments at the North edge of the attendance area so there's there's a mix of housing that attendance area but uh the biggest cause that minus 51 is a big fifth grade one out I see around the so whenever a student leaves or a family leaves that affordable housing unit you're noticing that people are not moving back into that unit like they're no it's gonna stay bacon or what is your well as I showed in that one slide it's down something like 22% in the last three years I mean that's basically more than one in every five kids in net was gone in K2 in three years now obviously when you're talking about affordable Apartments um and the recession caused by the pandemic that's an income level that's got the least amount of money saved to be able to to deal with the hit of losing a job and so um a lot of them were just simply had to leave because of economics in the pandemic if you're if you own your home you're more likely to be able to hopefully squeeze it out for a few years but if you're in a very affordable apartment and you're on a marginal income level you know losing a job for six months you have to leave so it's common in that category and all districts in the during the pandemic ultimately in your um analysis of all of our schools which schools would you say is top concern for you for their declining enrollment in your opinion well if you just look at the rightmost column and again this is probably based on the graduating fifth grade numbers you have 65 going out of Majestic Way that's it's falling from 436 to 371 that's just a you know that's a Monumental drop in two years uh Ruskin is percentage wise is losing more losing so these are these are dramatic drop offs again because they have big populations now in fourth and fifth grade and based on the birth date I'm expecting much lower incoming kindergarten amounts or or even if they stabilized the current level that's still a much smaller amount than is graduating from fourth and fifth grade in those attendance Series so it's it's basically just based on where your kids distri distribution is in terms of um percentage um I guess it's going to be Ruskin that's the biggest hit but uh all all those numbers in Orange in the right column are pretty significant drop offs in two years thank you okay thank you for the presentation Mr Williams thank you thank you all right let's move on to uh report 10B Dr quenes can you introduce this thank you at this time I would like to invite Mr Tom Carroll our coordinator of students Services who will give a presentation regarding positive behavioral intervention support PBX PBIS and our District's efforts around addressing chronic absenteeism and our differentiated assistance path thank you Mr Carol all right good evening um so tonight I just want to update you with some of the things that we're doing thank you on the student services side of ed services um so oh what do I do I just hit the button oh no down arrow down arrow got it thank you um so first since the the pandemic we've seen an increase in the need for mental health services for our students we've seen increased treny chronic absenteeism more Behavior Uh concerns arising less self-regulation as well as higher needs uh for our students and families to be connected with Community Resources the graph on the right there is the mtss chart that was pretty standard prior to the pandemic where with high quality instruction with clear positive behavior expectations and support Mental Health Services Approximately 80% of the students in our in our classrooms are going to be in that green category where they're successful they're able to achieve um and they're receiving the the the tier one support that they need um prior to the pandemic approximately 10 to 15% of our students did not necessarily respond to those initial tier one uh supports and so they needed a little more intervention and so that's going to be the students who are in the yellow and with those additional supports approximately 5 to 10% of our students still needed additional resources on top of that since the pandemic we've almost seen this pyramid flip um and so it is pretty concerning what we're seeing and part of what we're doing with head Services is trying to address these concerns as a district we're very invested in positive behavior interventions and supports as well as multi-tiered systems systems of support we currently have 10 schools that are engaged in PBIS training five of those schools were went through tier one um PBS training at the County Office of Education before the pandemic hit however because of the pandemic and closing schools they did not necessarily get off the ground in running with implementation of their PBIS programs uh so therefore this year they're working with um Dr mola and Collective impact solutions to refresh their PBIS systems and structures and to get those implemented uh throughout the course of this year those five schools are Majestic Noble Rusk and Toyon and pedmont we also have four schools that are um involved with their initial tier one PBS training they're going through that with the County Office of Education right now Cherrywood Lane View North Northwood and Mill we have one school Summerdale who was part of that initial Cort who got trained up prior to the pandemic however they really have flourished with their PBIS implementation and they're actually on tier two so they're working with the county office right now uh on a grant to continue with their implementation and then the three schools that we don't have currently involved with PBIS training will most likely be going through that training next year and that is Brook tree sieron and Vincy Park some of the things that we've implemented this year that we found to so far be successful is the adoption of a district Behavior Matrix this was collaborated on with um several stakeholders within our district it was piloted last year at a handful of our schools I believe Ruskin and pedmont middle school and we're going for initial implementation this year although we're implen it it is still a work in progress and we are still going to be getting feedback on how we can continue to develop this Matrix to make sure that it is relevant and meaningful for our um administrators but ultimately the intention is to provide clear and consistent guidelines for addressing student discipline um taking a restorative approach to discipline and making clear the different tiered Behavior interventions that we have available to address Behavior as it arises something else we we've implemented is suet 360 at our middle schools it's an online module program that basically allows our administrators to assign or and our counselors social workers to assign online modules that are directly related to certain issues that may come up so for example if a student is chronically tardy to school or if they're absent often they can be assigned a module on the importance of of attending school regularly um if a student is doing you know various Behavior concerns then there are different modules that can be assigned we've seen that I believe there's been over a hundred of these modules that have been assigned to our students this year and it's a great um alternative to suspension so just a quick snapshot of where we are might not surprise you but the majority of our suspensions in the district typically happen at the middle school level and so the data that I have here is specifically from our middle schools but as of October 28th last year we had 32 suspensions across our three middle schools as of this year on the same date we've had 18 so it's approximately 44% decrease and I believe that is attributed to several of the um several of the interventions that we've put in place chronic gaps in TM continues to be a concern and something that we're trying to address um chronic absenteeism is defined by having missed 10% or more of the school year regardless of whether or not it's an excused or unexcused absence some of the causes for chronic absenteeism that we've discovered is that you know there's still the coid and coid symptoms and then just a true lack of understanding about chronic absenteeism many of our parents understand that if the student is sick they should call in when we look at the number of students who were chronically absent last year specifically at our elementary schools the majority of the absences were excused so the parents are calling in they're letting us know that their kids aren't at school but the students still might miss more than you know 18 or more days in the school year and so that's where right now we're really trying to push hard to educate our families on the difference between chronic absenteeism and treny we have a lot of students who are Trent missing three you know three or more days unexcused but they're not chronically absent on the flip side we have a lot of students who are not Trent but they are chronically absent and as of right now from the state's standpoint we're being looked at for our absenteeism not necessarily our treny so we're continuing to try to educate our our families on when they should be sending their kids to school and keeping that line of communication open this is a snapshot of the data comparing the 2122 school year and last school year with chronic absenteeism um what you'll see on the far right is the difference between the two years and I have to give a huge shout out to brooktree Vincy Park and Toyon who saw significant decreases in their chronic absenteeism rates um as a as a whole beresa decreased by 3.5% which when compared to the county uh which increased I think that's a huge success and which I did not include on here but the California rate of chronic absenteeism for 2223 was 25% so when compared to the county and to the state we are doing much better because of this data um I'll get into it here in a few minutes it did cause us to get into differentiated assistance and I believe that's on the next slide but some of the things that we're doing to address caric absenteeism is leveraging our school social workers um we did just receive the school Link services Grant which is offered by the behavioral health um department and that will allow us to hire an additional social worker to specific spefically support our tier three students around um absenteeism and mental health needs and our social workers are continuing also to utilize car Solace to link our families with outside resources as they need it we've also recently um are in the process of hiring community lisons and while the community layons are tied to our Cay plan and really are designed to support our success Scholars many of our success Scholars are also students who chronically absent and so they will continue to build that positive home homeschool interaction um and what's nice too is that they're invested members of the community they their majority of them are staff members who are already working in our schools whether as clerks uh mediate techs per Educators um and so they they are invested and already know how our systems work home visits are huge we've been really trying to make an effort with getting to to fam's homes when we feel that's appropriate and actually on November 29th we're going to be having a um a training here at the district office hosted by the county office specifically on it's an introduction on how to do effective home visits we'll be having all of our principls assistant principles counselors social workers and psychologists join us for that home visit training and then also just like everything else we're trying to do is take that restorative approach take a restorative approach to addressing uh attendance you know while there is need to take it to sarts and sarbs and if needed take it to the district attorney um we really do want to make the conversations positive and reinforce that we want your students at school we um are trying to create that welcoming and affirming environment so as I stated earlier we are in differentiated assistance we just had our last differentiated assistance meeting we were identified by the state for for this because um our students with disabilities the rate of absenteeism for our students with disabilities approximately 30% of our students with disabilities were chronically absent I believe that actually should be the 2122 school year I apologize um so we've been working with the county office to engage in cycles of inquiry to see what we could do to possibly make a shift with the students um one of the things that we did we we identified four students with disability who were chronically absent last year and who we started this about 11 weeks ago who at that time had already been chronically absent this year and seeing what we could do to maybe intervene and and make a change we talked about having the case managers for those students make positive phone calls home try to engage the parents understand the root cause of the students absence um and just really again build that homeschool connection so what we did notice is that over the course of 11 weeks three of the four students with those attempts did not miss another day of school and one of those students had only missed one day of school in the 11 weeks so with that we're going to be ex you know even though we will hopefully be out of differentiate assistance when the data comes out in January um we are going to be working with our principles our case managers to try to expand this pool to see what we could do on a greater scale do you have any questions um I have a question so the previous presentation we just heard um it was uh suspected that a lot of students have been moving out of the area so does this data take to account um students that have been moving out of the area but they haven't been uh removed from our system yet and so essentially the students that uh are still considered our students but they haven't been moved out but they just don't live in our district that's why they're not attending schools so so I would say no uh well I mean in terms of the data from last year I I don't know how many of those students have moved out but in terms of the data that we're pulling for this year and looking at which students you know are accounting for these numbers they're all of our all of them are our students currently and I'll add to that and so one of the things that we've done is we have um going into this school year spoken with our principles and are working with our our office staff team to make sure that we are being very quick to contact families when we notice a consistent drop off or they haven't returned back from uh wherever they are we do have families that travel you know to another country for a time period we let them know we're not holding seats because it goes into this chronic absenteeism cycle and that uh they will be dropped but when they return we will reenroll because they were still on the books in the past and that accounted for some of that data but uh we're trying to be more proactive about that this year so um we're just cleaning that up as quickly as we can and and actually now that I think about we do actually have one student that I can think of um at one of our middle schools who has missed I think she only attended the first day of school we've been trying to make efforts to get her we found out that she's actually living in another District at this point we are trying to work with the family and Franklin McKinley to get her enrolled over there however we don't want to just drop her from our system because if we drop her and it's she's not picked up at another school then it counts as a Dropout for our district so we also want to be careful to avoid that right because every school district is accountable to ensure continuity of education for that student even when they leave so that's why when we um when a parent exits our district we we ask where are they moving to where are they're enrolling uh so there's an exchange of educational information and we know that that learning plan continues for them okay thank you yeah that's just one of my my concerns because I know there are a lot of families that move out of the district and then they keep their students at home because they just are either too busy or they're not familiar with the process of re-enrolling re-enrolling their students into their new home District so as long as we have some sort of a resource available uh to assist those families I think uh there was some social workers that would do Outreach to them y there's social workers the community layons um if it is a student with special you know with disabilities case managers School psychologists side administrators yeah okay thank you yeah are there any other questions yes uh just some clarifying questions on the behavior metrics and the student discipline part of the so um can you uh expand maybe clarify a little bit more on the uh where it says clear and consistent guide clear and consistent guidelines for addressing student discipline um how uh how is it being handled because some of the uh feedback um that we've received as as if a student is uh is being um disruptive or uh disrespectful in the in the classroom causing disruption for learning for everybody um the teacher uh you know the teacher the uh teacher in the classroom refers the student but some of the student comes back um and there is no transparency between as to what's happening in that uh inm uh the teacher doesn't seem to know uh what transpired on the other side so I I'm just trying to understand whether that process has Buy in from all the uh teaching staff and what is being done uh by the administrator or whoever is handling the case uh to rectify the student Behavior because the feedback we're getting is uh student comes back with the same kind of behavior right it's it's not nothing has changed yeah and the causing uh it could potentially cause learning loss for not just that student but for everybody everybody else in the classroom uh cause stress for the teachers and and things it has a cascading effect as we know so I'm just trying to understand if if you have any additional data to expand on that how that process is and how how we are U ensuring that our teachers are buying into that process and also being trained on um you know what the expectation should be and and things like that well so the idea of the behavior Matrix is that it does outline all of the different education code violations it provides a variety of responses that could be taken um you know much of the discipline is at the discretion of the administrators ideally we want tier one interventions to be happening in the classroom um you know we understand that there's times where student needs to be removed but really every student needs to be in the classroom they need to be getting their education and so with the um I think it's important to also realize that behavior is is a direct result of a student need and so sometimes the traditional approach dis discipline is not necessarily what that student needs at that time um you know we see that suspending the students removing them from the class is not necessarily effective and does not work for students it's not going to change behavior and so that's where our administrators are still continuing to work with our teachers on how we can address behaviors within the classroom um you know and in terms of buyin again you know this is something that's constantly developing I said it's a work in progress so we are moving to seek feedback on how we can continue to develop this and and make it as effective as possible and I'll add to that as well because I think in addition to buyin the other thing you're alluding to is communication right that feedback loop of what's occurring so that way the classroom teacher uh knows that what whatever the strategy was implemented happened during that in between time and that's what we're we're working on as Mr Carol shared it's a work in progress we currently have our mtss district executive leadership team and those are the issues that we're discussing we have some of our members here in the off in the audience uh that are part of those conversations um and we acknowledge that there's still a lot of communic ation that needs to happen districtwide to share uh this work and the path that we're on in terms of trying to address uh not just academic needs of students but these behavioral needs as well and uh just this past week we had uh on Monday we had our executive leadership team meeting and the focus was communication and how do we put all of these um plans that we've been working on uh together so that it can be EXP exess to everyone not just our teachers but we have support staff in the classrooms as well with our teachers so everyone knows like what's our mission and what are we what's driving us and what are the resources that everyone has or will have at their fingertips to try to support these situations um it is a shift uh there's a lot of communication we need to do and uh we're we're building that and actually our next meeting in December we're we're bringing that communication package back so then we can share it districtwide so that was what we just discussed this week and that's part of that building in that ownership for everyone and explaining the rationale behind it too because there's been uh as we mentioned in our previous board meeting lots of recent legislation that is changing how discipline is being addressed with students that we also need to be sure we're we're meeting those regulations and uh and all the research that's out there that shows you know what is uh where do students make the most gain and and that's what's being looked at also you know through these initiatives right so so my all my concern is uh is about the entirety of the of the classroom or the entirety of the school so if if a student uh behavior is not changing after repeated attempts uh what what is a mitigation plan because at at that at that point uh there's learning loss for pretty much everybody right and then that causes stress on the on the educator on the support staff who is handling the situation and that kind of uh demoralizes uh you know kind of takes away that kind of excitement of coming coming to work to teach saying that I'm not being effective the the student doesn't seem to uh make any any Improvement so it's causing U me problems with my other students that are wanting to learn but I'm not able to provide that and so and this process is a progressive process and so with mtss there's multiple tiers there's tier one tier two and tier three depending on where the student needs go so as you said if Behavior continues uh that's part of what this Matrix is about in in addition to more so for those that might need more right depending on what's going on if it's counseling intervention if it's um at home services you know if it's a change of placement in the classroom environment what's important is that from the initial event whatever that looks like is that documentation and those conversations with the family so that way we're ensuring that the student is moving from the different levels of support from one two to three um but we always make sure we try to uh keep them in the most most um least restrictive environment with as much support as possible but there that's not always going to be what they need right but we have to have lots of data that shows what is that right path for that student and um and you know so that documentation is key in each of these incidents as we're working with each student and their family thank you I just quickly want to say thank you so much PBIS is so important and as you know I always ask our principles how are they implementing PBIS like what are you working on and I really loved what you said that you know when a student is acting out we want to figure out what the root cause is and I really believe that to be true they just need additional interventions so just thank you so much for your work and your presentation you're welcome thank you okay thank you for the presentation Mr Carl um let's move on to uh 10 C now Dr bues thank you at this time I'd like to invite Tony kisto our director of bond facilities to provide his monthly Bond update on measure L and measure U hello everyone again we'll give you an update on measure L and measure U again our first picture is our new gym at pedmont it's almost there um we'll go through measure L I'll give you an update of kind of what we're going to do and then measure U again for measure L we've actually completed all our projects so at the next board meeting we'll give you how we're going to spend I think we have about remaining $150,000 I mean we've already kind of have projects for another 150 but there's about 150 left that we'll figure out what we're going to do with measure U again we completed this last month the rusken doors the um the ornamental doors at the front there's three sets of doors I have a picture of those um the exhaust fan project phase one for the exterior we've done Majestic Way Summerdale Vincy Park seront also Brook tree Noble Northwood and pedmont have all been completed um the exterior door numbers projects Noble has been completed uh progress we're working on right now is again the gym as of today it looks like I was told the gym will they they think the gym is going to be done the 21st of December so I know last week they told us power was going to we were going to have permanent power on the 15th of this month and I was told today now it's going to be the 29th so that's two weeks so somewhere in December we'll be done the good news is we actually did get the mechanical unit that's actually going to be sit on the roof on Monday and they're actually Paving the fire access road to on Friday when school's off so that those are two big things um the morel exterior door project they're actually complete they're just trying to finish all the punch list things they're going to be working Friday and then if they have anything left to do they'll do that over Thanksgiving again the exhaust fan project the only school that we actually have left is Morell and we have one fan to finish fire alarm replacement Brook tree Majestic Way Noble Summerdale those are all moving around along Majestic Way is actually almost complete and in the the play area or the Playfield at rusin that was seated and I think we're just waiting to see how it turns out at this point um and next is exterior door numbers we have all these projects the biggest hold up with these is now the vendor can't get materials so they're having hard times getting the reflective materials for the numbers um things we're going to bid this month I think everything bids on the 28th of November the um Pont district office the roofing and HC replacement exhaust fan replacement phase two which is the remaining four schools which is Cherrywood Lane view Cherrywood Lane view I wrote this down so I wouldn't forget Cherry Lane view um rusin and Toyon and then lighting LED lighting replacement at rusin in the M MPR and Lan View and the MPR and then also we have an alternate for the lights in the classrooms at Cherrywood again in design we still have Toyon Vincy Park Northwood that's moving forward the warehouse replacement project we're moving forward on that again exterior signs we're working on that the next set of PA and security projects are again seven schools and then the exterior window replacement at pedmont and then pictures again this is the latest picture of the gym about two weeks ago so it's looking pretty good inside again they really what they have to do inside is um finished the main hoops and then put in the floor and they were working on some of the low voltage things but the good thing is that I didn't mention we actually have everything we're not waiting for anything anymore now we're just waiting for labor to actually put it in um again this is the opposite view of the gym again kind of the side view again this is the main access road to the for the fire lane and then these are the doors at rusin so again on the left hand side where the old doors red doors and the right hand side we put in ornamental one basically big ornamental gate and then the following is just a schedule of how we are going to complete everything and then this is just the opposite side of the gym do we have any questions good so on the 150k you have for measure L they be bringing up some suggestions or are you looking for us to bring up suggestion well no we'll have some suggestions on how to spend the money okay anything else great thank you thank you for your report thank you uh we'll move on to your report uh Dr fences uh first I would just like to say um our schools across the district have really kicked off the fall and all of the uh wonderful holidays we have to come with fantastic community events um these past few weeks everything's been celebrated with uh fall festivals Halloween parades uh Theos moros celebration at Noble the dwali celebration today at Summerdale it's really um wonderful to see you know our schools celebrate uh the diversity that we have across the berasa community and nice to just have that good um good spirit you know back it's been a long long time since we've had full scale you know events with our community and we have certainly seen that uh this school year so just a lot of fun uh to attend these past few weeks and I just wanted my hats off to you know our school staff uh the site principls and their ptas and all of the uh parents that are involved volunteering uh being part of you know all of the family fund for the students it's it's been a great joy to be a part of that um the other thing I wanted to share was a congratulations to Vincy Park uh Elementary um they were recognized this past month as the best public school in the online Metro Silicon Valley publication so that's a a great thing you know um that's really by uh poll voting right just so whether it was their Vincy Park Community their parents at large whoever went online and said yes we love our school um Vince Park you know surfaced as number one so a great recognition uh for them and and the pride that their Community has for you know what their what their school offers so that was really um exciting also just um to share you know we do have an upcoming holiday so there will be no school this Friday in honor of our veterans so I just want to give my thanks to all of our veterans here in the audience our veterans within our community we thank them for their for their dedicated service to our country and uh certainly we have our Thanksgiving holiday that's around the corner and just want to give my gratitude to our trustees and your leadership and to uh our community at large uh we have a wonderful place here in beresa and so uh my thanks to all of them and wishing everyone a wonderful holiday upcoming holiday with with their families you thank you for your presentation and Report um are there any comments or announcements from the board yes I have something um just wanted to quickly I won't take too much time just want to quickly uh uh uh let everybody know that this month or the past month we kicked off The Slowdown San Jose campaign at our schools so I wanted to request uh uh the district to I mean the Dr point is to Cascade that information to all schools and uh what what what to expect and uh how to implement it uh we're looking for support from our ptas um to try to have a table at any of their events um to get some pledges going to have a parents pledge to slow down around schools um so uh just as a little bit of a background even when I was not on the board as a community member I always wanted to have have um safety around the perimeter of the schools not just the school itself as part of the school site plan uh but for obvious reasons it cannot be implemented because it's resource intensive so we're glad to have partners with the partnership with San Jose City uh do uh we had Walkin roll we have walk we are a walk androll School District so we depend on these Partnerships to implement some of those ideas uh to make our school sites safer and slowdown campaign is is a is a very important one so uh we should have that um information cascaded to all our U uh sites so they they all know what to expect and definitely they can contact uh you or uh our contacted the city to uh understand what needs to be done and uh and just as a to let everybody know please slow down I work as a volunteer um crossing guard at Cherrywood please don't run me over I know you [Laughter] know you may not like what I say but you know I'm just trying to get get kids crossing the road that's all I'm trying to do so uh slow down uh you know look for kids like I tell my parents at Cherrywood our job doesn't end as soon as our kid gets out of the of our cars it doesn't give us the freedom to just take off or you know just pick up the phone want to start texting away uh safety is all of our responsibility and you know drive as if your child is in the crosswalk is what I what I say if if your child is crossing the crosswalk would you be speeding down the street uh you wouldn't so that's what I tell my U all the parents at sherrywood and i' appreciate that message going to all the sites yeah absolutely and just as a reminder to our families and anyone that's watching us because uh we did put uh the link in our last newsletter and we've been putting it out in social media and we'll continue to do that and as a friendly incentive of what we're asking all of our parents and staff to do is sign that pledge that you will slow down when you're around a school and the city in Partnership will be doing monthly Raffles So based on your pledge signup so they've got great prizes so if you want to have a chance be sure to sign that pledge and commit to slowing down are there any other comments or announcements from other board members all right if there's none uh we'll move on to our first review and action item A1 Dr for can you introduce this item yes it is recommended the Board review and approve board policy non-discrimination in District programs and activities for a first reading this is an update to our policy based on a new law AB 1078 2023 This was um put in place by uh recently by Governor Nome to ensure uh that the district's policy prohibits any discrimination harassment intimidation and bullying when it comes to applying um or enacting any policies and procedures in adoption of instructional material requirements so uh we are again are bringing this forth as a first reading based on current uh legislation requirements all right thank you for that is there any discussion or motion as item I so move second go ah okay it's been moved and seconded all in favor of this motion say I I I okay that's 5 to zero motion passes uh we'll move on to B1 Dr FR can you introduce this it is recommended the board approve the compreh ensive school safety plans for all of our elementary and B1 oh I'm sorry yes oh here we go sorry B1 measure a uh we it is recommended the board appoint Community member yanet seura Hera to the measure a committee I know she was here uh earlier did she have to leave okay so um should is it best that we bring this item back or can we move forward do we have a statement from her in terms of her application do we have a copy or is it attached okay well I will I will say if the board is open to moving forward with this item it is recommended that we appoint Miss seura to this committee can share uh on on her behalf her level of involvement and commitment to our district she's a a very active parent of ours she has children uh at brooktree as well as at marel middle school she's an active uh PTA parent has held uh president positions is currently on the North Valley Council PTA executive board um she's involved in our budget stabilization committee uh she has participated in our district advisory Council in the past so certainly keeps uh herself well informed of District issues and uh you know and seeks clarification when needed so I would strongly encourage you know her uh ability to be able to be part of this committee uh as she desires yanet is a well-known U uh community member I've worked with her uh also she's she's a very passionate parent so I emphatically moved to approve her um appointment I'll second that okay it's been moved in second any other questions if not um let's go ahead and take a vote all in favor of this say I I I okay motion carries um five is zero we'll now move on to uh B2 Dr quences thank you it is recommended the board approve the comprehensive School safety plans for our elementary and middle schools as well as our district office I know we have uh provided those comprehensive safety plans to you to review we have uh Dan here who takes the lead in ensuring that those plans meet all of the compliance components one of the things that I will share with the board is we will be bringing these plans back again most likely in the month of January because 's another new law that recently passed this past month uh and uh but we need to meet the October requirements or the umch March requirements we're going to do this initial review which is based on our past regulations but the new law which goes into effect in January 2024 we need to add additional language on how we would address potential um uh overdose or drug use situations of students we need to have a plan of action I would like to share with the board we're ahead of the game um just last month we had all of our district leadership team all of management were trained in being able to disseminate uh Narcan in the ad event we also have that uh medication on site in all of our AE AED lock boxes so um that will definitely be part of a component to um that implementation process Dan all right good evening everybody I just want to give you guys a a quick uh overview of the safety plan purpose and requirements so the California Education Code outlines the requirements of all K through 12 schools with regards to writing and developing a school safety plan relevant to the needs and resources of the particular school is the intent of the district to develop a an a mandated comprehensive safety plan detailing the systematic planning process including strategies aimed at the pre prevention of the education about potential incidents involving crime and violence on school campuses so the comprehensive school safety plans must include the following elements assessment of school crime committed on school campuses and at school related functions child abuse reporting procedures disaster procedures suspension and expulsion policies procedures to notify teachers of dangerous pupils discrimination and harassment policies schoolwide dress code policies procedures for safe Ingress and egress policies enacting to M enacted to maintain a safe and orderly environment rules and reg procedures on school discipline and the last hate crime reporting procedures so a brief timeline of how our school safety plans were developed this year um included me updating the initial plan and and sending those out to principles on September 11th um basically I sent them out uh all of our our our safety plans are on a Google doc so it's a living document we could make updates and adj adjustments as as we need um from there principles were able to share the 2324 School sa School site safety plan with their site Council uh in order to update the sections they're responsible for um the this includes um safety concerns that have that have brought up um for example damaged fencing or issues with traffic patterns before and after school drop off this slowdown event all that good stuff um physical and social climate goals are are developed and and documented by each school and then shared with their respective commun communities most common physical goals concentrate on emergency preparedness um earthquake drills fire drills Etc most common uh social climate goals uh detailed around emotional uh social emotion leads of students um updated documents then came back to me for for approval from the buusd Safety Committee as well as signatures from the San Jose fire department and the San Jose police department so I meet with them they come to theot conference room I lay them all out we read through them um and uh I've developed those relationships with the fire department and the police department to so they understand these um what they're signing um and then the last step is to present at the board and get Dr FR fren's signature and the board president signature so with that said on behalf of the B buusd Safety Committee I present you the safety plans for 22 20 23 24 any questions anything from the board no thank you for um putting this together I know it's a lot of work every year um it takes a lot of stakeholders input so thank you again thank you uh now is there a motion to approve uh or motion for this item I move for approval okay second it's been moved and seconded all in favor of this item say I I I any motion carries 5 to zero we'll now move on to item B3 Dr fris can you introduce this it is recommended the board approve the use of the Apple Inc P PPM contract number 5358 0 1 -001 piggyback agreement for the purchase of Apple Inc computers tablets accessories and services for initial term of three years any questions or motions on this item sorry is it coming from the uh Bond program this one or U the funding for this so this is the contract that allows us to buy Apple products at standard price over the next three years okay right so when we go in we actually purchase from the e-commerce site and this just sets the price according to this contract for the next three years okay and the funds uh Dr pointus so those funds could come from a variety of sources they could bond that could come from the general fund it's all dependent upon the use of that computer within the district oh I see where where the computer is actually placed okay that makes sense okay uh I move to approve uh the contract agreement I second okay it's been moved in second all in favor of this motion say I I okay it's five zero motion carries uh we'll move on to B4 now it is recommended the board first conduct a public hearing on the disclosure of the Teamsters Local 150 collective bargaining agreement and second accept and certify the disclosure of the Teamsters Local 150 collective bargaining agreement from the Santa Clara County Office of Education okay so at this time um the board will now open up to a public hearing uh are there any comments in regards to this item from the public if there's none we'll go ahead and close the public hearing now is there a motion to accept and certify uh the disclosure of the Teamsters Local 150 collective bargaining agreement from the S Clair County Office of Education so moved second okay it's been moved in second all in favor say I I I okay motion carries 5 to zero we'll move on to C1 now it is recommended the board approve the contract language changes in the tenative agreements with Teamsters Local 150 I would also just like to express on behalf of the the district our uh thanks for the collaboration with Teamsters leadership Alan der and Johnny Salgado and Melinda who were all part of working with us to come to um this positive closure okay I just also want to EO the the partnership that the team s Union Local 150 had with us um they were the first um bargaining group that uh came to an agreement with us uh uh this year so again I would like to thank them for that uh now is there a motion for this item move to approve second okay it's been moved and seconded on in favor say I I okay that's five is zero motion carries we'll now move on to D1 it is recommended the board approve the measure U Bond implementation plan project list update dated November 8 2023 okay any uh questions or discussion on this item do we go through the list of priorties or we do not have a presentation um but you do have the listing there ahe of you um it is not uh it's all of our existing projects from the past that continue to be moving forward and then in the red are areas of projects that are moving forward from Project two list that can advance because now we have um some additional savings that we can put towards those efforts um so there's not too many uh a lot of them are are structural in nature additional fencing additional security measures things of that nature the most significant project on that list is the warehouse rebuild as a result of the fire that disseminated um that entire workspace I actually wanted to ask um is the restroom signage for all gender restrooms going to be coming this school year or are we going to be following the state law where it can roll out I think two years I just wanted to ask how that is going actually as part of the signage projects where the schools were trying to add those at the same time okay great sounds good all right is any other questions or discussion or motion on this item I'll move to approve all right second it's been moved in seconded if there's no other questions or discussion U let's take a vote all in favor of this motion say I I I okay that's five to zero motion carries we'll now move on to uh D2 Dr for just it is recommended the board approved the it Management Corporation Inc request to use Cass contract 32302 1038 with verata Inc for security alarm equipment and Cass contracts 31870 0019 q and number 31870 0019 r with it Management Corporation Inc for low voltage cabling and security alarm equipment installation at pedmont and Mill Middle Schools all right any questions from the board or a motion from the board I'll move to approve I'll second okay it's been moved and seconded all in favor say I I motion carries five to zero we now move on to D3 it is recommended the board approved the it Management Corporation Inc request to use C mask contract 32302 1028 with single wire Inc for public address system software license licensing supplies and equipment and Cass contracts number 9 number 0019 q and number 31870 0019 r with it Management Corporation Inc foret work programming Services low voltage cabling and it equipment installation is this across all Sites uh doesn't show specific site uh so the network optim optimization is across all Sites but it's also adding the PA systems at Morel and pedmont so this will allow us in the future to actually go from school to school and do it during the year oh so we don't have to do it over the summer okay um move to approve I'll second that I been moved and seconded all in favor of this motion say I I I okay motion carries 5 to zero now are there any requests for staff followup or items for future agendas from board members okay is there a motion to adjourn them move to ajour okay all in favor adjournment say I I okay meetings turned at 9:07 p.m.
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uh I will take a motion at this point to approve the minutes from the October 11th meeting can I have a motion please so move that was member wall and a second second member Johnson mad thank you and is there any discussion of the minutes okay hearing none we'll move to a vote anyone abstaining from approving the minutes don't you have to dooll call oh I'm sorry yes we have to do a roll call vote so let's do a roll call please member Den yes secretary exam I Imes member Johns manad yes Vice chair Martini yes sure priy yes member wall yes they are approved okay thank you and I should have noted also we've changed the order of our uh usual agenda just slightly to accommodate the folks that are at the conference they'll be with us probably for about the first hour of the meeting um and then we'll be logging off and um I think probably many of you are here for the discussion on reenvisioning the district the redistricting process um and we're going to have our report from the student representatives and then have the discussion of the the redistricting process after that and then public comments which just a slightly different order than you might be used to um and uh at this point we would take my favorite part of the meeting the Tumi Brothers report from the student Representatives please guys thank you um so to begin with student council um November brings such stuco Staples as lip syncs pep rallies and partnering with the Boy Scouts to scout for food um scouting was a huge success in the last few weeks together we helped collect over 2,000 pounds of food and next week several students will attend the regional state conference at Long Meadow High School uh planning for pep rally is coming up along or it's coming along well this year and we will be hosting a scavenger hunt in Leo of the annual turkey Bingo students are planning their Spirit Week costumes and collecting their pennies for Penny Wars all M all money raised from penny wars will be donated to the Special Olympics via our annual Polar Plunge Key Club participated in the first annual trunk retreat at Stone Burnham school on October 29th great costumes and dancing great Halloween decorations and yummy treats were provided for over a 100 trick-or-treaters we are preparing for the traditional Green Wave Turkey Trot which will be held on Wednesday November 22nd at 8:15 fun walk run DJ hot cocoa and Thanksgiving themed games and memory making along the way Spanish club celebrated dios moros with face painting before school on the Day of the Dead and they continue to play uh to plan and fundraise for their upcoming trip to Spain Italy and France in April they're currently selling holiday wreaths and planning for a fudge fundraiser their school meetings have included practicing ordering food in a restaurant and of course dancing to prepare for their performance in the Thanksgiving pep rally fall Sports have come to a close with a great success field hockey and boy soccer made the state tournament soccer traveled to Salem Academy in the perlim round and lost 4 to zero they put up a good fight as it was 1 and zero at half field hockey won their round of 32 game 2 to one in overtime versus Northbridge High School in the round of 16 game the girls lost a nailbiter two to1 in overtime at Su and high congratulations on the miaaa state tournament we want to wish all the senior fall athletes good luck in their future endeavors winter sports start Monday November 27th look for basketball ice hockey and indoor track schedules on AR live go wave French Club H hosted a well attended movie night on October 23rd where they enjoyed a light-hearted French animated film un monre which I'm sure I butchered um they continue to fundraise for their trip to France in April and have begun preparations for coffee house the coffee house talent show event which will be on Thursday December 14th from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m.
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in the ghs auditorium their next meeting will be after school on Monday December 4th and all are welcome to join drama club is excited to announce their spring play myth Adventures by Eric kobal a comedy drama retelling of five classic Greek myths auditions will be held after school on Monday November 13th and Tuesday November 14th in the auditorium and are open to all ghs students Library Club hosted the fourth annual ghs Comic-Con after school on October 25th um they welcome students and Librarians from Mohawk Trail Regional School and the Pioneer Valley Regional School uh we want to thank Greenfield Public the Greenfield Public Library for collaborating uh as well as the guest presenters from liy here the imaginary Bookshop tumble science media and podcast and game designer Chris Foster of hidden door the advanced European history class has been working in the library researching Renaissance artists while they culminate um which will culminate in the students giving 12 to 14-minute presentations on the artists they researched as part of their learning they are excited to be taking a field trip tomorrow to the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston to see a special exhibit on strong women of the Renaissance and to visit the Museum's other Medieval Renaissance and classic Greek and Roman art on display band celebrated their six seniors at a football game for the years dedicated to the music department they will be Marching In the Veterans Day Parade members of the community have asked why the band is so small it is challenging to have a thriving music department when the program keeps being impacted at the elementary and middle school level they hope that this will be a priority in the future to help rebuild the program NHS officers have begun a campaign to seek to speak to underclassmen about the current situation in the hallways in the bathrooms at ghs the students leaders presented to both the eighth graders and the 10th graders at their class meetings last week and are preparing to talk to the 9th 11th and 12th graders at the future meetings the topics of the presentations included showing respect to teachers and other students not congregating in the bathrooms vandalizing and preventing others from using them not wering the Halls during classes and other ideas about making the building better for all students we continue to plan for our adopt the family project in December and volunteer work with the ghs tutoring in a possible nursing home visit uh student anxiety was rather high as grades recently closed for quarter 1 and students began to shift Focus towards the incoming term and the scheduled changes that are going to come in the following few weeks at the same time many students are now baning together to prepare for the lip sync performances that will occur on Wednesday the 22nd uh just before we leave for break the year's theme is artists and each grade is met numerous times already to throw together their act generally Spirits are stable as we are approaching the break and the academic load can be forgotten for a few days while the situation has seemed to improve a little bit students still feel qualms in regards to the situation of the bathrooms um some have begun to open yet the ability to conveniently access restrooms conveniently has been challenged the restrooms that are not open are closed due to repairs that are needed this makes it difficult for to find an open space and beyond that for those that are open they are facing overcrowding as students flock to them to occupy the space during class time these factors all culminate to hinder the accessibility of these facilities for students seeking to use them for their intended purpose administrators have had to be stationed outside of certain locations and times of passing to ensure that people leave and move to their oncoming class um that concludes everything we have written out but if you have any questions we would be happy to answer them thank you guys other questions from the committee not hearing any questions thank you both for being here appreciate it we'll see you next month okay so we're we're going to do um a walk through in in in a discussion uh within the committee of uh the reenvisioning the school facility project and um I want to give the superintendent an opportunity um to first talk about uh how what the overview she's put together um as well as what we've learned anything else she wants to add there and then going to also have Jean wall as the chair of the committee um that facilitated the work um also give have an opportunity um to speak and then the members of the subcommittee are uh member Den um and member Johnson mad and if they want to speak after member wall um we'll do that and then we'll have a general discussion um at that point um we are not planning to vote on anything this evening uh because we've really gotten a lot of feedback in in in the past month or so that shows that folks uh I think everyone needs to be a little bit more up to speed on what exactly is being proposed and why and what we've learned as a part of this process for the last 2 years um but we will um take an opportunity during the discussion to actually talk about the votes that um I would propose we take and I say it that way because um often to help us organize the work of the committee um as the chair I will propose the Motions that we put forward and motions are always up for not only debate but also revision you may have heard if you have ever attended a meeting or you attend regularly that will ask for friendly amendments to motions or something like that um in order to give us a starting point um I've had a couple of motions prepared that if we want to and it feels like it's a logical part of the discussion tonight we would walk through uh those and perhaps um either take some more time to think and plan to come back as a committee with different motions in December um or we would um kind of plan on those and see if our thinking evolves between now and the next meeting um so that's a little bit about what we're going to do and then I think it'll be interesting to see having public comment after our discussion that's not the normal way that we do things um and so we'll uh certainly see how that works and what we might glean from doing it in that order um and so at this point I would ask that uh Christine give us an overview um if you have the materials if you're following at home you have the materials on your phone or your device or what have you um there is a not only a write up of the history of this reenvisioning project but also a draft of um the redistricting plan as it relates to the transportation details so I'll stop there go head thank you okay thank you so as you mentioned um I put together a little history just of from the beginning the first uh first action that sort of prompted the conversation because not long after I started in Greenfield um Jean had reached out and said can we talk about what you might think we could do with Green River so we went for a tour so that that was really the first um step in this conversation and then um the orientation to the subcommittees and the work that was being done around um Equity specifically at that time um talking about Equity across the three elementary schools and I do remember th those were some of the questions that were asked during even my interview about curriculum across elementaries and resources things like that so that was sort of the impetus for the conversation with the committee around all of these items seem to be connected to some degree and it made sense that we somewhat begin at the beginning and figure out how many students we might be talking about in The District because it was challenging to talk about how to potentially reconfigure and reuse Green River if we didn't know what our anticipated population was going to be so committee members may remember at that point um we had a contract with nesdc to do um excuse me I'm not sick I just want to make sure everybody knows not spreading germs up here um that we uh the committee we had a contract with NASDAQ to do enrollment projections and then to do what was called a best use of educational facilities study that involved D um surveys from our building administrators um information from them about demographics and space our facilities director Eric um did a lot of work with nzda around all of the configurations of the building providing documents um and then members of that committee from NASDAQ came toward all of the buildings and wrote up a summary which has been on the district website since it was presented um spring of 22 so that was um that was the beginning and then there was conversation about the options nezda presented four options for the committee just looking at here are some things you could do um I'm summarizing obviously we're speeding up the timeline here um two of them seemed to come off the table um due to cost one of them involved reopening Green River um people may remember that there's a heating um system that needs to be upgraded the cost when I got here was over 700,000 I'm sure it has um increased dramatically since then and given the fact that Green River hasn't been used for a number of years there are other upgrades technology being one um depending on the use of the playground could be another so we're talking well over a million dollars just to get into the inside of it um the other option that was taken off the table somewhat um early on was an option that would require construction at all three of the elementary schools um that would have required engineering studies and then um the cost of any construction on top of that so the committee seemed to eliminate those somewhat quickly so that left two options the First Option One was that we would reconfigure the district with three schools having grade bands so one school would have had K1 another school 23 and the third School 45 so that was um that was moved forward to have the administration do some of the logistical work um part of that included some of the transportation information there was going to be some need need to make some fairly um involved changes we thought in the transportation because getting students from across the whole city to three different elementary schools within the same time frame was going to be challenging would have involved potentially changing hours for the schools changing drop off pickup times and likely involve the addition of one if not more buses with a financial impact so variety of impacts of that there was convers ation about um from the community members from staff that that was not necessarily an appealing option and um could we consider something else option two involves having three elementary schools and re and moving the lines for each school's catchment area um so through public comment through emails staff feedback what evolved was what we lovingly call option 2B which involved a little bit of moving the catchment areas and creating three K through five elementary schools that option seemed to be somewhat appealing so the subcommittee asked the administration to move forward get some information do some of the leg work to see if it was feasible the first thing we did was to look at well how many students could we be talking about in each school that involved looking at the current enrollments the breakdowns from each School based on Transportation where they would go uh keeping in mind one of the primary goals of this effort was to create a more balanced distribution of students across the city um and you know to look at how we were Distributing our student population into our elementary schools another priority that came out of it was um a very strong desire by I think everyone to get fifth grade out of the middle school and to get eighth grade out of the high school um so looking at those as priorities um we were able to look at redrawing some lines across the city to uh more evenly B balance the demographic enrollment balance the city into each of the elementary schools and then we sat with maps of each building and the potential enrollment in each building and said wow we have we might have space this could work um so that's where the conversation about Choice the impact of intradistrict choice the impact of not intradistrict Choice um came up looking at enrollment so we calculated enrollment projected enrollment um in two ways so that we could look at actual space we looked at transportation and um then came down to the fact that this was feasible um in terms of having the physical space and um so that's that's kind of where we are for you folks to decide which configuration you're interested in moving to um I'm not aware although I could be wrong that option one was ever officially taken off the table I know it's not you know everyone's preference but um option two is still on the table which would just have me redrawing lines every year the challenge with that would be potentially that would affect um a fairly small area of the city annually or every couple of years based on enrollment in different schools that it would shift back and forth um which I think you know that's that is challenging people have raised concerns about having students change schools in any of the models that we've talked about and so this you know the option two if the committee chooses to go that way could potentially result in students moving um you know based on enrollments option 2B there are there are pros and cons for sure um the the pros are that whichever um decision is made um regarding the intradistrict choice scenario regardless of that um we can get K to five in all three of our elementary schools based on the projections that we have um we can get 8th grade into the middle school we um have the ability to provide all of the special education services in all of the buildings all of our related Services the interventions um so they're you know from a programmatic standpoint it does appear that it is able to be done which meets at least two of the goals of the committee um I think all three because the reconfiguration of the city in terms of which um areas of the city would um be assigned to different schools um does make some changes from the way it is now the challenge is that we could end up with some space issues um primarily that occurs at Four Corners and if this is where the the the conversation about what the population looks like in the building um would do if the students who are currently attending schools that are not their neighborhood schools remain in their non- neighborhood School schools um it it is anticipated that four corners would need an extra third grade fourth grade fifth grade we can house an extra third grade fourth grade fifth grade but what that would do is put um some of our specials teachers would have to use a cart and move between classes um period by period because their space would be moved and then due to space there is a substantially separate special education program at Newton and there is one at Four Corners and we would need to move swap the two schools um due to the space available in both buildings we can do that we have the space to do that um if we don't have the students who are intradistrict choice in their choice in school there would be two grade levels of grade three grade four grade five at Four Corners and we would have space for art and music and we would not need to switch um the location of the special ed programs so that's the general overview but I can go through a little bit of the information in here I'm not going to go through all of the dates and everything that you have you can see that um the next pages are just a summary with the pros and cons the bulk of these summaries you can see it was from Fall of 2022 this was compiled um based on our community meetings I'm looking at Glenn he was at those um so this is feedback and then um after after these meetings we also added feedback in um from staff when we went to the elementary and the secondary levels to get staff feedback so that this is a compilation of the general feedback Pros cons and outstanding questions and at the top I put a summary a very brief summary of what that option would look like because I'm sure everybody isn't as um immersed in this but so then there was an update provided I updated this in October of 2023 to show any um updates obviously so this shows the addition of option 2B um the pros and cons are somewhat um I had done a summary which is on the website of it's just summary of options updated October of 2023 has two separate summaries one intradistrict choice phased out the other one is leaving intradistrict Choice as is so you could see advantages challenges and questions remaining um separated out but this is a summary um option 2B oh no I lied I put them both on here look at that look how comprehensive I was um option three we eliminated due to cost this is a summary of that option four as well eliminated due to costs that's the construction so this was a this is a summary of the review of our current in it was current last year and projected for next year enrollments um I want to make sure that folks are clear when they look at the numbers with this this reflects what would be the newly Drawn Lines and then um whether we had the students from intradistrict choice in the building or not so what Jake our transportation coordinator did was manually go through all the students because he has the transportation information for all of them whether they Access Transportation or not and identified numbers of students who would be in each School in either scenario as a district we do not have a field in our student database to indicate whether students are intradistrict choice or not so I cannot easily query that number um but this is basically the differentiation it is not just straight Choice numbers of students from Choice one way or the other um this also reflects um the projected newly Drawn Lines so um so you can see what the population numbers might look like with or without intradistrict Choice um and the newly drawn um attendance areas Four Corners has the most significant change with about 35 um Federal Street has a variance of about 20 and Newton has a variance of about 15 um and it goes in different directions so if choice is in effect um feder a Four Corners goes up if we do not have intradistrict Choice Federal Street and Newton go up just from their current enrollment so again these are estimated we know students move in and move out we knew we know people move within the city so these are estimated but at any point we're always using estimated enrollment um for our decisionmaking so we looked at the enrollments we rolled them up as we say we used a standard of reasonableness for class size there was no school committee policy about class size there are no finite numbers included in the unit a collective bargaining we certainly recognize there are a variety of factors that we need to consider when looking at class size um so you know that that is a piece of what we looked at administratively so there's a breakdown of what we estimate project class sizes to be where we have a somewhat noticeable increase I included that um whether we have in District choice in place or not for Newton and Federal Street we have two we expect we would have two of every grade level either way just because of enrollment changes um regardless so the that aspect does not change for either of those buildings um we could have a couple of class sizes that are a little bit higher but um you know we're we're able to talk about the needs when we get to actual enrollment at that time to see if we need to do anything differently um Federal Street would still have um you know ability to reconfigure things if we needed to add another classroom at Federal Street um but at this point all of the spaces anticipated to be used so Four Corners this is where the um space challenges come in you can see if we have the original numbers leaving everyone where they are so to speak um we project there would be three classes of grades 3 four five um you can see some class siiz numbers for the upper grades at Four Corners would be a little bit High higher than they are um again that would be a conversation when we get closer to the actual start of the school year um having conversations about potentially the need to add supports into those classrooms um but that's what we're expect we anticipate class sizes could look like so you can see we look at space I broke that down for Newton for federal one of the positives of um the redistricting is as we're looking at reconfiguring we realized that we can move things around to address an issue at Federal where the nurse's office is it is not in a good space it is not in a handicapped accessible space um so with the reconfiguring we've identified a space where they can be that is handicapped accessible has a bathroom so that that would be wonderful to take care of that need um I go through a summary of what we believe the space situation would be at Four Corners like I just um outlined middle school and high school we don't expect any space issues middle school is almost replacing the exact enrollment so Michelle doesn't expect that to be an issue and high school obviously we would be um not using some classes so um there would be no space issue there then we needed to look at the schedules for our staff for next year projecting again all of this is projected estimated anticipated right now at the elementary level we have um a situation where our art music and PE teachers at the elementary have come to an agreement with us that their contractually required preparation time can be reconfigured because we have two of each art music and PE that serve all of the elementary schools and every elementary school classroom gets all three specials um the way to do that involved some creative use of time and space and they have been exceptionally flexible for the past two years agreeing um to a non-traditional way to use to have their prep time allocated um if we have two classrooms of every grade level in all three elementary schools the current art music and PE teachers would be able to provide service at all three elementary schools and have their preparation period as it is outlined in the contract if we have additional sections of any grade levels we would have to add portions of art music and PE so if we had three extra sections of a grade level we would have to have basically a art music and PE teachers working about three periods a day so that's less than a halftime person in each of those subject areas um so that's just a challenge you know that we'd have to figure out um at the middle school to add to the complication for next year we need to add full-time social studies and full-time science right now they have half year of each because mcass is going to be um there's mcast implications Civics is being piloted so that's going to be added so we really need to provide our middle school students with a full year of instruction so that we're really able to provide instruction on all the standards so that they're in a better place given the added testing so we have to add teachers at the middle school to do this because of the schedule so while we do expect there would be the reduction in some sections at the elementary school some of which may happen anyway because of um population Bubbles and changes in that um some of that staff who might not have a position at the elementary often elementary teachers are licensed from grade kindergarten through grade six so there's opportunity that they may be able to take some of those additional positions um and space you know changes happen people retire they move some teachers may elect to take higher level Middle School positions so um but we do expect overall that there would be a reduction in I believe it is four positions at the end of all of the reconfigurations sorry I'm not seeing it right now I'm I know it's in here um we would we do expect that a health teacher position will need to be shifted because they're providing service to the eth grade so we expect that would need to be shifted down um so there are there are some staff shifts that would need to happen um I have Karen and I have met with the president vice president GAA several times to talk about how this could work um and we are scheduling meetings with the fifth grade teachers and the eighth grade teachers to talk about the impact I have a date um that was just scheduled for the fifth grade and we're working on the eth grade date so that we can meet with them explain the process and um answer any questions that we could have so so we do expect that there would be some additional electives available at the high school right now we have teachers at the high school who teach some sections of High School courses and some sections of eighth grade courses so with the eth grade moved um some teachers such as Chef yafi in our culinary program um he does teach sections of 8th grade so that opens up the opportunity for him to provide some additional elective courses we're not you know our students access his courses they seem to enjoy them we're going to um we've already asked him to propose some additional electives that could move some students um into some new and exciting options um so we do have some potential to um offer additional electives um at the high school so that we are moving up the course selection process um so that we have what are called the tallies you know students go through they choose the courses that they would prefer to take the guidance department does tallies so then we have total numbers of students who are interested in in whatever course um so we're moving that up to prior to um the budget season this year so that we can not only look to have a schedule solidified earlier but also address any potential budget impact if there is any in that regard um sorry it's a lot and transportation so this is just a list of sort of other things that we need to consider that we are considering um we are out to bid for a transportation contract because that's perfect timing when we're looking at redoing Transportation factors so as soon as there is a Excuse me yes member Martini yes I'm sorry to interrupt but member J and I have to go at this point oh I'm sorry thank you thank you thank you enjoy the conference thank you have a good rest of the evening bye bye bye bye so can you just note in the minutes that we're at Quorum at 6:41 thanks okay sorry okay no that's fine um so as soon as a contract is awarded um Jake and I will meet with whatever transportation company we work with to provide the routing information that he has configured um there is some possibility we would need another bus but we'll have to see um one of the pieces that again is connected to all of this that came up in the conversation is the school committee has a policy about Riders and Walkers and distance from each school um we aren't actually really following it right now um there were some practices that were changed prior to my arrival that are still in place so um that'll be hopefully at December's meeting that we can talk about that we need to Jake and I need to walk some routes um where potentially students would have to walk versus take a bus so we're going to walk those routes to see if they fall within the policy criteria of unsafe or um because obviously that will factor into the decisions about Transportation but if we need to make changes to the policy that would be the time the other piece is we need to consider any of our collective bargaining agreements in this um we already know that we need to meet with our um unit a excuse me folks to talk with with them about the change from fifth grade teachers teaching two subjects a piece so right now one teacher would teach Math and Science the other would teach English language arts and history so that would be a change um significant change for them so we have already initiated um to schedule a meeting to have that conversation to figure out how we can support those teachers in making a change like that um we also need to look at any impact that this could have on our custodial staff um for example if we need to hire movers or potentially additional summer help that could have an impact so we need to look at that and then we also need to look at the final decision by the committee and what if any impact that could have on our lunch rotations and therefore um our cafeteria staff so those are just places we might need to um have some further discussion to see if there is impact act on any of these folks um that we need to address we also would need to buy or collect boxes packing tape um we need to have the time frame addressed for staff that would need to pack up and unpack their things so we need to take care of figuring that out um anything that might need to be purchased for the move primarily from 8th grade um to the middle school we need to just think about that I'm you know I don't know that this would be but an example of do we have lab tables for Sciences at the middle school if we don't can we move the ones from the high school or do we need to get other supplies it's just an example of things um we will have fifth grade teachers teaching a subject that they have not so we will have to buy additional teacher um copies of instructional materials so we need to know all of that sort of before the budget because that has an impact and the other um things that I think would not be necessarily right on the top of anyone's mind we need to talk with um Christy Mo the director of the rec department to see if this has any impact on the after school programming and how her students um have access to programs in any of the schools or um we also need to talk about about um excuse me any impact on Athletics I don't know that there would be but we have middle school students who participate in our JV and even Advanced athletic programs so we need to make sure that if there is an impact we think about that the elementary schools last year had a five lunch wave structure um they don't have it this year but we would need to go back to that next year if we're K to 5 at the elementary schools so that's also things that we need to think about and it's possible that we would need to hire more before school staff for the program that the district funds because with the addition of fifth grade and an elementary I don't know if families would want their fifth graders at before school programming but it is possible so we may need to factor in Staffing there so those are all the things that we thought about and I think when we look at the contractual uh obligations we look at the scheduling issues the budgeting issues the transportation I think the committee can understand why would we why we would want um this to not be a decision that we make late in the year oh I say are there any questions I'm sure there's a thousand um I I I think it makes sense for committee questions of the superintendent now rather than waiting until after the committee um um talks but I'm flexible like do do you all want to ask questions now I know I wrote a few thing down things down well Christine was talking um do folks have questions now okay so why don't we do that um whoever who wants to go first remember extra I saw you nodding your head first so why don't you go ahead okay so um I don't Karen I'm going to need you to help me with this a little bit um prior to this is sort of related and unrelated I guess to um redistricting or restructuring um prior to co the high school days were set up differently correct me if I'm wrong right now they have hour and a half classes they do a Tuesday T and but prior to closing for coid they had the schedule was different they had shorter class times but more classes in a single day yes no it was long before that think I'm looking to my no that's that's why I'm asking cuz no I think we changed the schedule in 17 I think it was 17 we changed it so it's been like this since then it has yeah okay yeah never mind then was that your only question yes how about member johnsonon or member wall no okay I just have a couple of things that I want to make sure I understand um so when you talked about the lines specifically the district lines for you know whether it's Transportation or or who goes to what school I guess uh it's one and the same um you said annually we would look at that you're talking about if we have option two two 2 B I think or two maybe it's two um well we really look at it annually anyway okay um but things that would affect it substantively would be things like a new development being built that could have a bigger impact normally just normal movement of students has not had a huge impact to this point I don't know if in the past it ever has or if it will in the future but there is some you know margin of error so to speak for the transportation but if we are looking to um better um represent the city in all three of our elementary schools we would need to be mindful of how just that's something we would need to be mindful of with that goal in mind but we do look at it every year we just haven't had to make any adjustments to this point okay okay that I know of okay um I'm going to save I think that question because I don't even know if it's totally Rel one of the things I forgot to mention yeah is we did draft the new Street and assigned schools um it's on the website the changes are highlighted in yellow it says really really big on the top in Orange it's a draft I I know that this is a lot and it's a subject that has some strong emotion for people but I want to make sure everybody's hearing that all of this is projected and estimated and draft so um it does say draft at the top this is what it looks like it is on the bottom of the front page of the website there's a fair list growing now of all the resources connected to this discussion and this is one of them that's available there so you can look um I don't want to minimize the potential impact on any family the list of streets is not long um that doesn't mean people don't have you know concerns about it but I just want to point out there's not a ton of yellow so if you look at the front page and you don't see anything immediately you do need to scroll through to see the yellow um highlights so that's the projected new distribution of streets to each school I have one last thing I believe can you because this is always a hard concept for me um and I don't ever mind saying that I don't get it over and over again um can the the3 FTE and the specials explain that in a way I would understand it and I'm going to love and I'm not trying to be as you would say fresh I'm I'm just trying to understand it and I say not being fresh I'm gonna phone a friend and let Mrs patod speak to that because she and Mr Browning have been working on the elementary Special schedule for two or three years so I'm going to let her speak to that I even when my kids talk about it I don't understand when they go to specials or what yeah so right and and I'm not sure I'll adequately explain it either um but when you add that extra third fourth and fifth grade the specials are the teachers that cover the classroom teacher for their prep so in order for the classroom teacher to get their contractually obligated prep you need a specials teacher to cover that class and teach teach that class so they can have their prep so when you add those extra in order to also provide your specials teachers with prep but also so that you have people to cover classroom teachers for prep we have too many classes for the people that we have hired so you need additional adults then in art PE and music to cover the additional classes because those six already hired have maxed out what they could potentially teach in a class a full day they'd have to stay so it's okay that I don't understand this is what you're saying okay um okay no I I do get it now but it's like it builds on yeah okay and one of the things that was in place when um Karen started in her role and I started in mine is not all of the elementary schools had the same specials and that's something that got rectified that that Karen worked on even as I was um onboarding she was already working on that with Dr H who was the interim at the time and we've managed to make it consistent with the incredible flexibility of our current teachers to do that so we really feel like it would defeat the conversation about Equity across all three elementary schools if we were to have a different special that got hired just to provide the prep at at a school with like we wouldn't want to had a different class only Newton School would get basket weaving because that would be weird right so it really would be maintain for a number of reasons it would be weird well it would be I'm not aware we have standards for that class correct but it would mean some students would get for your example basket weaving but they would not get art music or PE and then other students would not have the benefit of basket weaving right so it would sort of contribute to the issue I think that you're trying to solve so we really would need art music comp that's like a really bad Rubik's Cube problem I don't like it which is why I defer the elementary schedules um Special schedule to Karen yes okay thank you and I remembered I did have one more question I think is a lot easier K mcus and our buses we have like a dedicated number of buses with them right is it eight I think so okay and what you're saying as a part of this is that might need to increase like we might need to tell K mcus you know we actually are going to need nine or 10 buses in if because we've chosen this scenario yes it's possible okay and we're hoping the possibility maybe would be nine not 10 but yes we need to look at the actual children right it might just be one bus but yeah okay it's still that's I wasn't sure of how it works I guess I don't really need to know that other than it's kind of helpful to understanding how how the whole thing would come together is that we would say to kcus hey we need another bus or two one of the challenges to yes another issue is um people will talk about and it's accurate that some of our buses are half empty which is very true but within our policy it speaks to all all students within a certain distance from the schools are entitled to busing so we need to make sure we have seats on buses available for those children some of those children don't access the bus but it is it is their it is their benefit of attending our schools and within our policy that they have access to that busing so I do recognize some of our buses look pretty bare but if we have the day where those students say I need I need to take the bus home today and there's no seat for them um you know that would be a challenge for the district so that is part of why some of the buses look a little bit bare and our policy mirrors what's required of Mass General law for transportation it's not that we just made up that we have to provide this it's that the the state tells us that we have to provide transportation for like three different scenarios and that's why the buses might look empty yes that's such a government thing right we are you know the government yeah yeah um the other piece is you know if you folks decide to change any of your policy for example I think it's up through grade six there's a a cut off mile and a half anything over a mile and a half for up through grade six yeah which would mean in practicality you potentially could be providing it's grade seven yeah thank you you would be providing Transportation theoretically for two-thirds of the Middle School yes you could or you could decide to make a revision there which again would impact how many buses right but thank you again why we'd want to do that earlier on well and so that leads to that's a nice segue and I did not intend my question to happen that way it just did um that as we move through the process what we have learned is that we have policies the school committee has policies that deal with basic pieces of this Walkers and Riders and how the Mass General law treats that our attendance areas is a a second one and then how we assign students to schools is also um a policy that we have and when we decide how we're going to address any changes we're going to tie them to our policy and we have learned as a part of this process that and this happens in organizations it happens in education it happens when you have hundreds of policies that need to be followed that sometimes practice in policy come apart a little bit and have to be pushed back together and you don't just necessarily push them back together but you might um adjust on both sides to make it work uh the way that we feel is best for the students so okay that piece aside any more questions for the superintendent and thank you okay um so the next thing was I want to give the committee time I'm sorry that member Den isn't on the line anymore um give the committee time to give their thoughts um and and member while I would just pass over to you and if you wanted to go first or you want Glenn to go first however you want to do it you want me to go first okay I'm going to sort of start from the beginning the committee to reinv Vision our schools was formed about four years ago when some parents complained that their children were not being treated fairly they felt that for Corners was allocated more funding more experienced teachers and more access to extracurricular activities uh the superintendent has worked very hard to correct this problem and to ensure that every child receives the same level of funding and the same level of educational Excellence so that part of it we have uh collaborated and we hope solved the problem then the public also criticized the schools for having the fifth grade in Middle School and the eighth grade in high school these children were considered to be far too young to make that transition as you heard from the superintendent's report much work has gone into finding a solution for this problem the committee felt that having banded schools with the k Garten in first grade in one school and second and third grade in another school and the fourth and fifth grade in the third school would be the most fair and Equitable solution to all these problems this would enable teacher collaboration and give us enough flexibility to allow classrooms that work for every child each grade would have at least six classrooms in that scenario however we were told by the public that children could not be expected to move every 2 years and neighborhood schools were the only possible solution the schools have the space to accommodate moving the grades back into the original spaces if the schools returned to the original intent of having neighborhood elementary schools the committee learned that the students who lived in Leen Woods were moved out of Four Corners to allow more P parents to Choice their children into four corners which was considered to offer a superior educational experience to truly have neighborhood schools the children who live in Len Woods will have to be moved back to Four Corners this will also help achieve the diversity and Equity that is the goal of all schools the complaints from from the parents about this option that they demanded is astounding to me as someone who grew up in the South during segregation this is reminiscent of that era during that period of my life the majority of white parents only wanted to preserve the comfortable status of their child it probably didn't even occur to them that other children were suffering to achieve their child Comfort the absence of equity was not a consideration that seems to be what is happening here in Greenfield to preserve the Comfort comfortable status of some children's children others must suffer as a member of the school committee I cannot adhere to that concept my primary objection to allowing the parents at Four Corners who choiced into the school to keep their children in that school is that the special needs students will have to be moved elsewhere there these are the most vulnerable vulnerable children in our schools and they don't have the ability to come to school committee and tell us about whether they want that to happen to them um they don't have the ability to organize groups to tell us how important classrooms with bathrooms and a private playground are to them it also isn't fair to the teaching staff to ask them to give up their negotiated benefits to accommodate children who feel entitled to stay in the schools outside their neighborhoods I understand that change is difficult but the school committee has to make sure every student has the best Poss possible education and making the necessary change for everyone it wants is the only fair way for this to happen many will have to change so your child won't be alone and the staff is spending the time to learn how to make sure your child feels comfortable and gets a superior education wherever they are in all cases if the children remain in their current School the school will have changed from its current configuration and four corners will be quite crowded thank you do you thank you um I guess one comment I wanted to make is that um I I think we deserve a pretty good grade in one level and and maybe a a bad grade in another level which is that I think that if you look at the handout um it lists the session side options that we had for meetings to discuss the report and to discuss the uh options that we were considering together and I was really um really appreciative of um you member wall and the superintendent for working so hard to have these six different or five or six different um meetings out in the community at different sites and there were people who came and participated in that and your feedback really informed the options that the superintendent's been talking to us about tonight so thank you so much for attending and thank you member wall and the superintendent for your leadership and hard work to make that happen there was Transportation available I think that interpretation would have been available if it was needed um so that's great and I think it's a model for um the way public bodies like ours should be getting out in the community and listening to people people but uh just judging from some of the comments that I've heard recently I think that we maybe deserve a slightly less good grade for our ability to get that information out and let people know that those meetings were actually happening because I'm still hearing from people who didn't know about them and so that communication is our job we feel like we did it we thought we sent out the emails or did the broadcasts or whatever but clearly some people didn't get the information and we just need to learn more about how to communicate in a way that the public can hear and understand what we're doing and what we're offering and I just wanted to say that I think that um there are many many parents and families in Greenfield who are deeply concerned about equity and uh do know and understand that there are changes that need to happen in Greenfield for better Equity across our neighborhoods um and and I think that uh at the same time of course parents must look at all of this through the lens of how it will it affect my child and and what will it be like for them and I just wanted to say that uh we hear you and we care and it's you know when we're making decisions as a committee it will be looking at what's collectively going to be best for the students of Greenfield and I I don't think we can guarantee that every student will be 100% happy with with the changes change is going to be difficult and and and it may not work as well for some students as for others for some students the changes will be an improvement um but uh we will be here um listening to you and and caring about you and your children and respecting you and your feedback to us about um about this process thank you um other General comments or discussion at this point from the committee about moving forward does it make sense for me to talk through the motions that I would propose and we could go from there we don't want the Motions to be a surprise for anyone um and I would hope that if if what I think we need to do isn't what we need to do that we would do something different so you know we have a month to kind of figure it out um so the the way I have envisioned it is that we would actually need um to do two motions related to um the redistricting process and so the first one would be um that we would adopt a specific option as I say in the motion I've written that we would adopt option 2B redrawing boundaries for the elementary schools to better reflect the makeup of the city and allow for three elementary schools housing G grades K through five and moving grade eight to Greenfield Middle School so that would be the one that I would put forward um and certainly if the committee moves in a direction that it feels like we're moving away from 2B that hasn't been the case we've been moving if I think towards it pretty consistently um that we would look at at changing that um you know for example I really liked option one personally the banded grades and I think more than anything we heard from the GAA that's our teachers in their Union please know um and we have to respect that we have to work together on on those pieces so um that would be the first motion and that's just one example of how it might change if we were to change how the discussion is going and then I alluded to the fact that we have policies that we're not following so um you know specifically of course I had them out and then I shuffled and put them away um but specifically it's uh JC a and all the policies are on a website if you go to school committee and you go to policies um they're alphabetical by the first letter and they're in sections um related to certain parts of school operations so jca specifically is about the assignment of students to schools and had we been following this policy um the way it is written we really would not have intradistrict choice and this is the policy that's on the books so we've got to come to some sort of reconciliation between practice and policy um as a part of this and so the motion the second motion that I would propose to get at what um we are hoping to do is that beginning with the 2425 Academic Year uh school committee policies JC jca and EAA which is assignments of students to schools um the Walkers and Riders policy and then the other one is the attendance areas or like the transportation piece that those would be closely followed elementary students would attend the schools to which they're assigned based on District boundaries even if they currently attend a different elementary school so we might need time to talk we might need the time to think about it but as the person charged with getting us through the problem solving piece and landing at a solution that's kind of how I see that it would go but if I'm missing the mark Or there's a different way we want to approach it I would want to talk about that and of course anything else you'd want to discuss related to this now would be the the time can I just please I just want to remind everybody that in terms of the administration's work we can do the K to five regardless you know there's logistical issues but these can be separate conversations so I just want to make sure that there's Clarity that one um one can exist they can exist together or they can exist separately but if the vote is to do option 2B for example um we can do that I just want to make sure everybody is understanding that there um yes okay thank you discussion yeah I'm just wondering you know we just had an election we'll have effectively three new school committee members on here starting in January these are Big in weighty choices I'm just curious how the timeline that the superintendent needs coincides with the possibility of putting off any weighty decisions until January it we certainly would be looking at some budgetary impact um the transportation contract um will have just been awarded I believe early December Andy if I'm right early to mid okay um I think the biggest issue is is the budget impact um so um I say this very respectfully to any departing or incoming members um the longer that there is a decision delayed the less time we have to actually Implement anything and the thing I want least is to repeat what I have been told was the impact on people when this changes from of grade levels from one building to another occurred previously where it was done you know almost overnight and staff had very little time that's something we've you know we're trying to not have happen especially if we need to talk about training options for some of our fifth grade teachers um if we need to arrange to have tours of buildings for families I'm just you know all of these logistical issues and given the amount of time that it takes to do these things because you you all know we're not um um you know just this isn't the only task on our plates um should new members come in on in January and feel that they are not ready to vote we are then pushing it out and pushing it out if this vote is happening in April I it's I'm not sure how well we could Implement for September so that my fear is that we're well it feels like we're really early in the year given what we need to do it's not really that early in the year so sorry other questions or comments I'm not hearing any others so I think what I would propose is that um we obviously hear from the public we have another month at least to hear from the public on this um we're going to hear from some folks this evening um and I will come back in December with the Motions that I've just uh put forward um and I would encourage members to work on any alternative motions um to also bring forward so that we have the best problem solving um available when we're actually uh going to vote all right well can you'll email those um can you email those motions I will I will absolutely yes um and I want to thank both of you uh askp and uh Christine for uh the work on just getting all of this comprehensively put together and all the meetings with staff and the logistical pieces and I know Christine you've actually been doing like walking and driving through the district with Jake right littleit more yeah so there is a lot that goes into it um and I think everyone for um being a part of of the discussion and as soon as I find my agenda in my pile here it is all right so we'll move on to public comment oh thank you is there anyone that still needs to sign up for public comment okay we know who you are we can just call we can just call you last how about that all right all right um I'll do the timer so uh Miss ranor is first and we have addresses here but if you could just State your um name and this the town or city that you live in and you have 3 minutes but let me get my timer feel like I'm a roadie when I say my name that shouldn't count Margaret ranc cour Greenfield Mass go ahead um I happen to be a teacher at Four Corners and you can roll your eyes but I'm not here to speak as a teacher from four corners for 27 years I've worked for this town a great majority of it I was at Federal Street I did not leave Federal Street to go to greener pastures once upon a time I was the only fourth grade left at elementary and Dr Holland wrote A Blog and I saw the writing on the wall and said I got to go because I belong in elementary school no offense Middle School not my gig so I left a piece of my heart at Federal Street I still miss it I love that Community I'm in a new community I love it also but there's something left out of all these conversations and Jean wall you're breaking my heart because there there's a misconception every school in this District all six of them I assure you have the most talented dedicated hardworking resilient and resourceful teachers I have ever met at all of the schools all of them and what's happening is you're we're belittling some of the other schools we're demeaning them it's horrible it feels awful on all sides so please know it is impossible to work for Christine and Karen and be Slackers and not provide a fair education to all kids we are held to the highest level of accountability responsibility and behavior and I am hurting for my teachers in the other schools when you say their children are suffering they take that personally it sounds like they are not good teachers and that it's just not true so I'm asking everyone on both sides of the table when you're speaking passionately about what you think is best can you do it in such a way that you do not be mean delittle belittle demoralize the teachers in this town teaching is hard in 2023 no matter where you are it is challenging it's exhausting I'm tired I'm shaking because I'm I'm upset please think before you speak that if we're trying to do the best thing do it in a way that does not pit one school against another because I'm telling you at Four Corners we will take any children that come in front of us and educate them and I believe that's the same for all six schools everybody please hear me we need to work together and we need to do what's best but not in a way that just puts more strain on people people that are working themselves to death we are exhausted and I am very proud of all of my colleagues all of them in every building thank you thank you Rose you're next you already knew you were next you have three minutes thank you um so first um I want to say two sentences about redistricting and that's it um one you're going to upset people no matter what you do and I'm sure that you know that um but two the question you need to ask yourselves is who you're willing to upset either the people in our community with immense privilege um who won't get what they want or the underserved people in our community who deserve to have an equitable education um but that's not the main reason why I'm here um I'm actually I guess in an off topic way here to talk about assistant superintendent Karen patod um because before I came to Greenfield I was a math interventionist for 6 weeks at a different district and it was six weeks long and only six weeks long because I did not have the support that I needed to be successful there I'm now on week 63 as a title one math interventionist in Greenfield because of Karen patod uh I have a unique perspective because Karen is the supervisor of the title one program so we work together often Karen gave me a chance and intentionally created a community of interventionists in all of our schools to help us build ideas and offer support and it means the world to me I have no doubt that she would continue this community work in our district as superintendent um I could take all three minutes raving about how wonderful Karen is but that wouldn't be enough time um I do want to highlight the fact that Karen doesn't have to drive 50 minutes to lead our district it's no no like offense or anything but um but she lives here and she was a principal here right and she's the closest working employee to Christine um we will not find any other candidate with those credentials Karen has the trust of teachers behind her and choosing not to appoint her would be negligent and catastrophic to our school Community the only reason I would say not to is because that might mean she won't be my supervisor anymore and that would make me sad so thank you thank you oh now we don't know who's next it's Joy Whitbeck please hi Joy just um State the town or city you live in and your full name and you have three minutes sure um I'm Joy Whitbeck from Greenfield Massachusetts um I first want to thank you all for your commitment I don't know you all personally but I know the vital role you've chosen to take in our community so thank you for taking the time to do that um I also understand appreciate all the years of work and commitment that have gone to this point and I want to make sure that we're not rushing to a conclusion in the end um I think that redrawing the school assignments ending INRI interdistrict choice and moving the fifth and eighth grades all at once is a whole lot of change that seem to make the pieces fall into place but also create a lot of change for a lot of students um I don't know why we can't allow the current students at whatever school they're at if they'd like to stay to stay and age out and then move the fifth and eighth grades if we do that they'll age out quicker obvious viously if they're not staying in elementary school through 5ifth they'll be out quicker and then we could move them you know then move everybody back down and then you won't have that problem at Four Corners of three grades up until fifth um I greatly appreciate you want to correct the mistakes of the past by allowing the intrisic choice and moving a segment of population out of four corners and moving Fifth and eighth grade out of their Elementary and Middle School status um but I don't think that doing all of those three at once is going to impact the students the best way possible I think if you slow down and make a couple of the changes and then move Fifth and eighth it'll have less impact on the students overall um yeah uh I just also have to say as a resident of Greenfield for 42 years a product of Greenfield Public Schools and now with my own children in Greenfield Public Schools it's rather insulting to suggest I don't care about the Greater Community obviously my kids are first in my world but this is my community my entire life so to suggest that I don't care about someone else's children is ridiculous because those children will be sitting as the school committee in 25 years so we all have a role to play I guess thank you Luke Martin please you know the drill I think so Luke Martin uh Haywood Street I have two children in the schools and I also teach at the high school um for the most part I I support the direction you're taking with reenvisioning our schools uh from very early in the process I've been in favor of what has become option to be uh what I've come to address tonight is the process of making these changes as you move forward it's important to remember that Greenfield has made laudable efforts in recent years to become more trauma informed in our approach to educating children we're not talking about trauma just in the traditional sense of major life-altering events but also the various stressors and disruptions that can negatively impact our children's ability to learn bullying food insecurity transience a lack of acceptance or inclusion for certain groups uh recently our staff at the high school was asked to listen to a podcast to dig deeper into this topic it was called unpacking trauma-informed education and it explained that trauma-informed schools are not only sensitive to kids external trauma but must also quote disrupt things that cause trauma inside of schools that schools need to look carefully at how might someone experience trauma there and how do we disrupt that from happening this is something I think you need to take into account when you consider immediately shuffling kids around based on new boundaries and ending interdistrict choice that dozens and dozens of children will be uprooted from the safe and stable environments that they've come to know not just intradistrict Choice kids but those from Leiden Woods Oak courts or anywhere else that's suddenly found in a new school zone these are children who have had their education already disrupted by a global pandemic and many of whom continue to face a variety of other stressors and challenges we should not further disrupt their school experience by uprooting them breaking the bonds they've developed with peers and trusted adults in their buildings and asking them to start over in a new and unfamiliar place the same podcast noted that predictability is one of the core tenants of a trauma-informed approach quote predictability is one of those core safety needs because trauma really disrupts our sense that the world's a predictable place so when we can create predictability it helps create a sense of routine and structure that we can settle into to feel safe I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that tearing kids away from their friends and trusted adults is hardly a trauma-informed approach I don't think this is a surprise or new to you in the survey sent out to staff last June option 2B included a quote phasing out of that choice uh it seems we understood the damage that could be done by making such changes too abruptly but somehow now we're considering pulling the rug out from under kids who entered an elementary School believing they'd be there until middle school somehow now it's Being Framed as a choice between moving in District Choice kids or the Asus program but it never should have come to this false choice we should have foreseen the space issues that complicate this option and not have committed to making these changes by next year now we're stuck with a logistical Nightmare and a false choice of moving some kids versus other kids why can we not wait until enough students have phased out to allow for the fifth grade to comfortably move back how long would that actually take uh this is easy for me to say because my children aren't going into fifth grade next year and those parents may have a different perspective but to me this should not be a hard choice about which groups of kids unfortunately have to move next year instead you should be asking what kind of timeline for this restructuring would minimize or eliminate the disruption for all kids kids are resilient they adapt they adjust they grow I'm not suggesting that kid forcing kids to change schools will traumatize them in the traditional sense of the word but we claim that we're adopting a trauma-informed approach to education saying so is easy but the way these changes are made will say a lot about whether we actually walk the walk um lastly I want to say that uh to member wall that being put on par with Southern segregationists in the Jim Crow era is astounding and entirely inappropriate and I can only assume that you don't understand the feedback you're getting from parents I hope that's the case thank you thank you Sarah Chase um I had prepared a statement but I feel that I have to if you could move the microphone a little bit closer but I feel that I have to say something else before I begin um I'm feeling in this community and now straight from the school committee itself a lot of finger pointing about racism and things like that and I think that people need to not always judge a book by its cover I'm white my husband is black my children are mixed race and they are choice to Four Corners and I am extremely insulted at what Gan wall had to say about people that might be choicing their children there my children go through a lot living in this area um with racism and people calling them certain words and I am called certain words by having a black husband and I just think it's a disgusting way to talk about people this is my statement my children are six and nine in grades K and four at Four Corners my 9-year-old has been there since she was in kindergarten we sent her there because I knew some of the teachers I'm an educator myself and I was more comfortable with a one Lev School than the giant school that Federal Street seemed to me with my precious baby girl we are very involved in the school Community there and have been for years now so not only my daughter but my son who is just starting out his Elementary School experience there are extremely comfortable and happy there it is an incredible school to despite all the public schools face these days I have always thought that having the fifth grade in elementary school is appropriate and am happy this committee is considering this however until recently the information that this mve would displace my children along with many other children in the district was not clear at all so unclear in fact that when we filled the paperwork out for my son to join his sister at for Corners there was Zero mention of the fact that this could be temporary and I have lots of emails between myself and central office where this could have been mentioned to me and there was no mention of that that change was looming on the forms we filled out the children of the Greenfield Public Schools are not numbers they are little people with developing brains that need to feel safe and secure to have the capacity to learn there are also little people who have emotional needs and struggles that need to be taken into consideration including my son removing my children from the only school they know would be devastating to them I implore you to please consider my concerns along with all of the concerns of the others here tonight advocating for their children to have consistency in their schooling and be allowed to finish their ele Elementary experience where they started it I also hope in the future when you do vote that you do vote to do what is right by the children of Greenfield including those that are inter District Choice who have done nothing to deserve being uprooted and that you vote to let them phase out of their schools thank you thank you and Rebecca is it right out Rebecca did I say that right write out okay and just your name and uh the city you live in and uh you have three minutes okay my name is Rebecca R out I've lived in Greenfield for 14 years at Four Corners the fifth grade solution has not at all been arrived at it's an incomplete plan don't put that on inter Choice families as if they created that problem or stand in the way neither the inter Choice families nor the special needs program at Four Corners called Aces should be threatened to have to move or pitted against each other due to the addition of a new grade level there the inter Choice families are a population with not a lot in common we are from a range of soci economic levels types of families reasons we chose this program Gan your comments are misinformed off Bas and insulting interdistrict Choice was provided by the school district although you allowed kindergarteners to come in this year which was again your choice you're making it seem like now the people who want to keep their kids in the school they started in are being intractable communication before July was fine this option 2B was fleshed out fully for the first first time only in July subcommittee meeting the first time the inter Choice Community was put at risk of upheaval and we've never been notified in August the superintendent briefly spoke about this emerging plan to the school committee discussing as a solution that quote fits everyone but she failed to mention that it does not now those families are being called out as the problem you need to go find a solution that works for everyone at Four Corners and keep everyone who's already there instead of disadvantaging one or another group here's one idea have you considered mobile units for the three three fifth grade classrooms next year they seem to be quick to get on site I attended several classes in Mobile units in high school it worked or perhaps the three classes of fifth grade from Four Corners could be placed in another school for the next year or two regarding redistricting this plan and the corresponding documents have created a bizarre narrative in which inter Choice families seem to stand in the way of redistricting this could not be less true and is certainly causing divisions the opposite of what we need to build community one of my my requests for clarification is can districting and Inter Choice coexist it seems that fifth grade stands in the way of all that whenever factions of a population are pitted against each other you can bet there's a bureaucratic entity that has created this division well this is happening to parents here in Greenfield and invite you all to look no further than those seated before us today for the reason we can do better as a community I acknowledge my privilege to have even known about the inter Choice program I think it is Antiquated and should not exist in the future I know all the town schools are equal in their quality I think bringing light and woods students into four corners makes all the sense in the world if there is consent from those families Equity is giving resources and especially agency to the people who need it and to let them Define equity for themselves I care very much about this these affected communities Laden woods and Oak courts deserve the right to choose if their children age out of their current schools figure out the busing Nightmare and the funding issues that comes from that that's called equity as the current proposal State States I just do not believe that uprooting th uh roughly 100 children across all soci economic neurode Divergent and racial lines without their families consent creates any Equity at all but I'm proud of our town for having so much caring about this issue rational Minds have thus far treated our children like lines on a spreadsheet but we need to create stability for all of our students if making that happen requires a little more Logistics I have the confidence that the same rational Minds can figure it out thank you in advance thank you Melissa is there anyone else who wants to speak this evening okay I feel like I should talk about redistricting for some unknown reason give us your name and where live web I live in Greenfield um I attended every single meeting from virtu ual with Jean and Glenn and Susan Holland I listened at school committee when it was remote back in September during coid when it finally came back to life again um I'm very lucky to have the knowledge to be able to follow the school committee on lots of topics um my first school committee I know I'm changing subjects here Kia Burton King dragged me here to talk about transportation and to always offer the um courtesy if anyone would like to walk with me from my house to Newton they are always more than welcome to see the unsafe fruit um that exists in that area um especially during winter time but back to redistricting I live less than 500 feet from a low-income housing you know I talk to these people I interact with them every day some of them are not comfortable coming up here and talking to you about the importance of getting fifth grade back into Elementary getting eighth grade back into Middle School um as Amy knows we went to Greenfield Gardens for a meeting and we were locked out of a building and those are just some of the daily things that things are promised to them and then they don't happen so coming forward isn't always so easy um I will say I did take a quick look at the bus the changes in the sheets and I did notice that Sullivan Lane which is also part of the Greenfield housing complex and part of Oak Court was left out of the geological um thing so that I would encourage that to be looked at a little bit better or even that area you know we're talk about making Green Field making the lines make more sense not having off streets off Li and road going to Newton having the community I will say at a lot of our topics people said how important neighborhood schools were and some of the people who were at the meetings School of Choice to other schools and then said yes neighborhood schools are what we want and now I'm seeing them say today well I mean I want neighborhood schools but I want the neighborhood I'm already in the community I'm already invested in not the one I actually physically live in um I remember the playground chatter when my daughter went off to Newton how I how could I possibly send her there and and that was real that happened at a I had moms coming up to me and a few other people saying are you sure you don't want a school of choice and I was like no we're we're good we're going to our neighborhood it's going to be great um at that point I had already been volunteering at Newton for four years through the last days in housing crisis so I'm just going to say thank thank you for showing up and thank you for listening to everyone even the people whose voices don't always project as loud thank you is there anyone else you may come on up just real quick for the record I live on Lincoln Street which currently goes to Four Corners where my children go so it's not my kids that would move it's everybody around them and everybody in other other schools so not everybody that appears to be on that side of the room versus this side of the room which is kind of disturbing but not everybody is us against them thank you Joy anyone else who hasn't already spoken would like a opportunity okay I I thank you all yeah go ahead please we just need your name you're going to have a hard last name that I won't be able to spell right no go ahead what what's your name Tera oh I didn't recognize you with the hat on sorry Tara yeah turn them ohz and you live in Greenfield right I live in Greenfield um I just wanted to make a quick comment when we talk about neighborhoods schools um we live on a corner and one if our mailbox was actually on the other side of our house like we would be Four Corners so our direct two neighbors are actually in my daughter's class and that is our neighborhood um and it would it feels random and alienating to her to see her two classmates who are in her class who are her neighbors who she looks out the window and sees going to um a different school so I just wanted to mention that this sense of neighborhood it is defined by the superintendent school committee it's not necessarily this innate thing so I just wanted to clarify that that I feel like even though we choice in I feel like we are in our neighborhood school we are closer to Four Corners our neighbors go to Four Corners our property is half on four corners territory thank you thank you I'll keep asking until there's no one so anyone else want to speak again I thank you all for being here and uh especially for the comments and we will at this point move on oh it's Andy Mr pette with his budget update for us thank you Andy for being patient not a problem so you have the update in your packets um we are proceeding along as um best as we can regarding uh with some of the transitions that we're experiencing um you'll notice again some of the I just want to highlight some of the things as far as some of the big deficits that are showing up if you look at the revolving account report there are very little expenses that are charged of the revolving accounts are encumbered so we're going through the process of uh moving those encumbrances out of the local budget into those revolving counts specifically in the tuition area circuit breaker and then the transportation as well um I can answer any questions you might have regarding the local report and any of the revolving accounts any questions from the committee I just would say that I work in College financial aid and when I start talking people leave the room as well so don't take it personally thank yeah that would be awesome I we're going to put you on the spot a little bit um especially for our folks who um on the committee who are probably aware that we are working on uh Transportation bid with other um towns and uh it's come up because we've had to um go to city council related to the length of the bid being 5 years and the standard is 3 years if you could just talk briefly about how the the timeline how it's going what we're doing sure uh this is the second year I believe that we have taken part in a joint Collective bid of several school districts in Franklin County and the last time it was done was was five years ago so five years is up so we're now going out for the second bidding for those districts that choose to participate the law for the governs procurement in Massachusetts says that if you go beyond 3 years if you are entertaining the desire to go beyond 3 years you need to get the approval of the appropriating authority to extend to go even Explore for Beyond three we're looking for five so we have to go to the city council as the appropriating authority to get the authorization to do a five-year bid the the process is it might sound like it's the cart before the horse but we just we need the authoriz ization first before we can even in a sense bring it to you to have the school committee ultimately vote to accept a contract from a vendor so the way Transportation Works in Massachusetts is the community has to fund Transportation the school committee and the administration manage the actual operations of the transportation so we've got a bid out now that was coordinated with nine districts in Franklin County uh it's being coordinated by the Frank Council of governments um the bidding as Dr DeBarge mentioned is going to be opened in December with the hopeful awarding of a contract by then um once we do the bid opening we then will go to city council with the fact that it's a five-year contract which we found we were able to find in a pass that that was actually what was done was it was presented to the city council that it was a 5-year contract and then ultimately school committee chair signed with the the awarded contract um regarding this discussion here the the it's a cost per bus per day contract so even if there's any potential impact financially regarding this redistricting discussion how it goes we will be very easy it'll be very easy to determine any cost savings and or potential additional cost because it is a cost per bus per day contract thank you are there please secretary EXT Go ahead I just want to ask a very direct question that I think will encapsulate what you just said so the longer it takes for these steps to be gone through because city council needs to do something and we're on the street as the city is trying to get involved the longer it will take for us to work on a budget which means the longer it will take for uh not work on a budget but to get more accurate numbers the longer it will take to present things um I could be wrong I guess I'd say the the discussion regarding the transportation as it relates to the discussion that you just had I would say it is gerain to the topic but it wouldn't be a driving force in a topic because you would make whatever is best sense educationally and then we would have to determine the the funding of said decision as it relates to Transportation they you know the the delay in the process I think and when we chair pretti and I were at a city council meeting where we were talking about that and even the chair of the city council said he's not sure that anyone remembers whether or not it was brought to them beforehand so um we provided them documentation from legal councel as to the reason why we are doing the process this way um and so the ultimate result is we have time like let's play the worst case scenario that the city council decided not to authorize a five-year contract we would just have to issue an addendum to the bid that's currently out there saying that Greenfield chooses not to be a five-year uh contract awarding so and if I could just can I add in um if all of the details if the school committee chooses to move forward with a plan or or whatever configuration of that the decision is if there is an impact on transportation and the decision isn't made before the budget has to be submitted we can have an estimate and figure out if it's one bus it would be x amount of money because it's bus per day so we could say you know I make up an amount but if it's one bus it's 10,000 if it's two buses it's 20,000 and we could estimate from a budgetary standpoint I think we did that during Co right we have to add and it's a scalable formula in the contract for that okay oh no no I I don't know I don't have off the you really don't know he he knows I'd love if it was $10,000 but I was using easy map um one last thing I want to mention since I have been here for so long is that I vividly recall the executive session where the chair at the time Adrian yunes uh we all went into executive session to discuss the contract because there were some complications and the committee as a whole Glenn were you do you remember this at all I'm just worried because you're talking about executive session like sounds like you're just about to the minutes have been released it oh okay okay I think I think it was early 2019 when you guys talked about it um and ultimately it was the chair that executed the contract but it was in consultation with the full school committee and I asked all the ridiculous questions that I like to ask about it other comments or questions I just I just want so the reason we would want to do a five-year bid is because it might save us money that's I mean it's I would say yes and I'll say just because my company has done joint Transportation bids for clients uh of ours we did it for three communities we put in the specifications to quote a price for three as one or three individual ones and the we've done this now for four bid cycles and each time that we've done it the price per bus was less expensive for the collective bid than it was for the individual ones and the procurement you know it kind of logic dictates that the more united the more volume you get the less price Better Price It's like a union for buses yeah okay and the other thing I wanted to just say allow just because this was part of my own education on this um is that there is literally a Mass General law that says if you're doing a bus contract for public schools it can't be more than three years unless you have the permission of your funding Authority which I just find to be so micromanaging I can't even stand it yeah that's the law it's explicit yeah yes and because transportation is a unique uh thing that's required and uh but just for clarification I'll put on my mcppo hat is like any contract over three years requires it but it does explicitly sayate State Transportation yes yes yes yeah thank you Andy are yes another question go ahead so the other thing that I wanted to mention is that it's not like there's other games in town this is there's essentially one service provider who can do these things unless we want to pay a whole lot more for someone from farther away unless I'm mistaken I'm going to ni that because that's the whole purpose of bidding is that you hope and hope for an open market for participants retract that thank you all kinds ofers anything else thank you Andy um now to the most exciting part of the agenda which is item number seven a vote to declare the ice machine Surplus um and there is a document in the materials if you're following along that is literally says just exactly what I said uh we are declaring an ice machine Surplus I move to declare the ice machine [Music] Surplus that was a motion from Member Johnson mad I will second any discussion and our members are off the phone so we can just go through our votes for uh verbally um any sorry I'm sorry who was the second was it was me uh any extensions any no votes that passes unanimously thank [Applause] you that's how we feel better too right um and then items uh eight and nine are policy uh items and I'm going to pass it over as I do with these uh to to member Johnson mad as chair of the policy subcommittee take it away thanks for that chair um Christine would you set up the number eight second reading and vote for Section B board governance and operations for us you mean why are we doing this now yes yeah um questions came up about a couple of the individual policies and as um Susan had asked the question we located the fact we we searched records and actually saw the fact that it appears that there were two first readings but no second reading on Section B so we just need to have a second reading on the books so that we can finally move to the end of the policy manual which we are getting close to so this is a housekeeping item in in essence thank you and my um records indicate that those first readings happened in 2019 so I'm glad we're getting to this let's see so now I I have to get those little glasses but I don't have them so let me see if I can do this I've got some please please help how strong they need to be I don't know this will probably be good I almost put them on upside now I don't think oh that does help okay so we're looking for second readings of an existing set of policy uh see and these are good okay I move that we adopt policy section B board governance and operations as presented on second reading is there a second second that is there any [Music] discussion hearing none are there any no votes any extensions that passes [Music] unanimously great and um we waited so long to approve the second reading in section uh for Section B that in the meantime we have actually found one of those one of the policies that we just revised we're now going to propose revising ing again so um we had discussion early in the year about the uh process by which we do our organizational meetings and um I think our policy currently calls for things like having it at our first meeting in January um and having the superintendent uh kind of supervise the process until a chair is appointed so we have this whole policy the other thing that came up was an interest in having uh from some of the members of the committee in having public comment be part of precede the organizational meeting um and so through it was referred back to the policy committee to take a fresh look at the organizational meeting and through the diligence of member denie we discovered that there is actually language in the town Charter that covers how um the um organizational meetings should go um and so which is very different from what our current policy is so our current policy is in in contradiction to the what's in the town Charter or the city Charter so um we have a proposed Revision in front of you that both um attempts to bring our practice in line with what the charter calls for as well well as adding the provision of a public comment period and um I don't think it made it into your packet but I am happy to read to you all the parts of the charter that are referred to in this uh revised policy if folks would like that if not that's okay and I'll just say that the policy the revised policy as presented was voted forward to you from the policy subcommittee but not unanimously U member deneve and I voted for it uh chair priority uh voted against it so so I guess I'll start with a motion and then we can discuss yeah do the motion first okay and then discuss yeah great I got to get the glasses back get the I got them from Target they're called okay I need thin Optics and they fit in this little thing in my pocket they fold up nice and thin I'm not on commission for them either I get mine from Walmart okay um I move that we approve the first reading of amendments to policy BDA school committee organizational meeting as presented is there a second uh I'll second for discussion okay and is there any discussion I guess so we have adopt or this policy would adopt a organizational meeting structure that is similar to the one in the city Charter does the one in the city Charter contain a public comment period it does not okay I guess I would just um my oppos I I I've opposed this from the time it was uh presented I mean we just watched uh the house there US House of Representatives try for uh three weeks to elect a new leader they didn't take public comment because they're electing a leader within themselves um and I just find it really interesting that there's this need to change the policy I think mostly to include this piece and it it doesn't seem I just don't understand why I don't understand what what there is about this that needs to be a part of the process I will be voting against it I just wanted to say my peace I can say that um the the I think really there are two honest intents here I mean I don't think it makes sense for us as a school committee to have an organizational meeting process approved as a as a policy which contradicts what it says in the city Charter I really think the city Charter takes precedence over our over our uh policy and um to speak to the question of why I have a public comment period before the election of officers I I realize it isn't something that is done um in many B different public bodies uh these meetings often will happen in the late afternoon in early January and uh if there is any discussion it's amongst the M members and very few of any public members of the public are even present and if they are present there isn't a public comment period for them to speak um but I think that um the election of officers is actually among one of the most um important decisions the school committee would make in a year I think the school committee chair has a huge amount of influence over what is on agendas how agendas are handled uh how the interaction with the school committee with the public goes and so I think that the public has a um an interest in it and I don't think it results in um in what happened in the House of Representatives if the um the members of the public who are present each have three minutes to share their opinion before school committee me members uh vote I don't see that descending in into chaos so that is the the reasoning behind having the public comment period um included I forgot I'm facilitating yes M extr you're still in Char ex um I so I'm of two minds I mean I don't so I don't really necessarily have much of a concern regarding public comment or not it's really excuse me neither here nor there for me um however following the city Charters and doing as the city council does is is a model of running the meetings as as you know in parallel and so my inclination is to not um include a public comment period and and also part of it is and and I this may get it the way that I think about being on school committee when you get elected to school committee you are there you have been elected because people trust you to represent the best interests of you know whatever situation it is that comes up with school committee um in the schools and things like that so um I I wouldn't vote for a public comment I I guess I'll I'll add that um the charter also doesn't talk about the voting of a secretary but as a school committee we can choose to have a secretary and elect one and have a a means of electing one and and similarly if we chose we could have a public comment period it it doesn't contradict what's in the charter which is um what we actually have currently so any other discussion so uh let's take a vote um any who who um what how do you do this Amy uh who any members abstaining from this vote any members voting no on this three okay and members voting for I'm a one so the motion fails um 3 to one and I guess with the chair's permission I'd like to put forward a um a new motion um which would be to um approve the school committee organizational meeting um uh revision on first reading uh with the um omission of the public comment period uh that is the third paragraph of the um proposed uh revised policy um so I'll move that is there a second I'll second that okay uh any discussion I appreciate your willingness to compromise it's probably short-lived but I I appreciate it anyway thank you uh yes I think it would be really good if we could get this policy into alignment um with the charter before our organizational meeting in January so um I I think that we can um have have a meeting in January without a public comment but I certainly would encourage the public uh to take advantage of the other ways you have of communicating with us if you care about um the who leads the school committee we would love to hear I would love to hear from you and so any other comments on this would you forward your motions to me please uh yeah I gave yeah I will thank you yep um so let's vote any um uh any no votes on this um New Motion any abstentions all those in favor I passes unanimously thank you thank you if I could kindly ask for my glasses back it would be awesome I think that we're I don't know what number it is but we're going into the job descriptions oh we're at the 8:00 break oh yeah um oh we're at 8 so we uh we can uh move for a five minute break if that works for folks we can power through but let's okay we'll move for a five minute break so um 88:13 we'll give you to 8:15 we'll come back than thank [Music] you [Music] n [Music] n [Music] n [Music] a the table and we're going to get started again and we are on uh agenda item number 10 approval of two job descriptions assistant business manager and accounting assistant and they are in the packet and uh Christine if you could just give like an overview of how we got here that would be great and actually I'm going to ask Andy to actually identify those sure uh what this is is like I'd say several years ago it was discussed about the fact that whether or not it's I'm going to say the current business manager model of a company being your business manager or what we call the traditional business manager uh it was discussed that we need to create a little more structure to the business office and what we ended up doing is looked at the two job descriptions in the business office per se and just realign some of the responsibilities to create uh we'll say the quotequote the assistant business manager that would oversee both the business office and actually have some support and oversight of the payroll HR office as well that's always been the design that had been discussed and it's also we'll say effective so what we did is looked at the two Des job descriptions of the positions and just did some realigning of the roles and responsibilities to we'll say create some heightened level of authority to the assistant business manager position and re align and change the accounting assistant position per se creating some structure which hopefully will also not hopefully I can say will create some efficiencies and some clear lines of communication regarding the roles and responsibilities in the office as well as additional oversight of the payroll HR and I just add this was an opportune time because we unfortunately had Kristen in the business office resigned she you know moved moved on to a different position a different company um but given the fact that she um you know she left that was a good time to make any changes because it had less impact and as we move forward to post the position it made sense to ask you to approve a job description before we post it so um and we thank you for that well and I should also add for context that um we have a collegial relationship with the administration as the school committee in terms of job descriptions where it does not say anywhere that the superintendent uh is is required to bring job descriptions to us um there are a handful of positions that we hire as the school committee um superintendent being one of them and the rest are actually left to the superintendent but because of the I think mostly the immensity of the number of job descriptions is immensity a word I don't know the number of them um and just wanting to also know what is happening in terms of um administrative responsibilities we do this process where we um provide uh overview and an approval of the job descriptions although the hiring is entirely done on the operation side so um with all of that said uh motion I would ask for a motion to approve oh geez I move to approve the job descriptions as presented thank thank you member Johnson mad and the second was uh from Member wall and any discussion and that's secretary Exum please we should do these separately in the event that one of them changes later and because then we'll have to approve both of them no we can bring them back separately they need to be revised separately yeah yeah um as anyone have any discussion questions suggestions on the job descriptions hearing none any extensions from approving any no votes those both pass unanimously thank you and requests from the committee for new agenda items are there any I'm not hearing any we'll move on it's not closed if you wanted to come back to that if anyone has something um and then report from the administration we have an askp report right um I thought yes yes something in here yes let me just get to it yes the heat is off the AC is now on perfect Thom I'll be quick they're just asking us to move swiftly through the agenda yeah um just really wanted to update the committee on the huge professional development day we had districtwide yesterday so I just wanted to share some of the um PD that happened the uh think right pair share our instructional strategy work continued teaching lab was on site for our K22 teachers um really looking at our instructional practices and uh using the data aggregate data from the learning walks that we've been doing with ssos and the teaching lab and really just focusing on improving um instructional practices so that was a huge chunk of our staff participated in that um we are still in the midst of investigating history so educurious was on site to work with our fifth uh through seventh grade history teachers yesterday and the roll out of that new curriculum that desie has launched um again we're trying to really promote College and Career Readiness at our middle and high school really getting uh kids interested in learning more about uh their strengths and what they might like to do in uh study and maybe promote uh future electives that we could create so we did adopt navian and really want to roll out some of those College and Career surveys with our 7eventh through 10th graders and really try to align some of the new electives that are offered next year with those career survey results to peque the interest of our kids so looking forward to seeing how that all unfolds um as Mr Martin did allude to in his public comment we are really still committed to um professional development that deals with being trauma informed and really working with our students on an asset-based approach our district-wide instructional assistance um engaged with uh lordis Alvarez Ortiz who we've worked with for years and her partner Gabriella lachari was with us as well yesterday and worked with our IAS on on uh identifying students strengths and really how they could support them better and lead to better outcomes in the work that they do with our kids um I do have to add though that I did get some personal feedback got some texts last night from our IAS that quotee unquote said it was the best PD that they've ever had and how rejuvenated and energized so I really appreciate folks reaching out to me just to let me know that it's really um makes you feel good about what you've provided for folks for for the day and that they really got something out of it um our a staff have been working um year long with uh the director maril melli on guided play strategies and really uh using play to teach whole language get that language development really a uh an increase so they had a successful day and then we had a lot of other sessions many ones here and there we had CPI training we had second step training with our guidance counselors at the k seven level we had School nurses working online on building family relationships we had curriculum mapping and we also um uh Dave messing led a special education daylong professional development for our special ed staff in our uh service providers so it was really a a a very well uh energized and productive day I hope uh everyone got something out of it and really um embraced whatever session that they were in uh for Grants uh I just wanted to commend and I wish Luke had stayed because I wanted to give him a shout out our Civic Grant this year really was um focused on us providing relevant Civic learning experiences for our students AKA more field trips more um off-site experiences for them school committee interns perhaps that would be a wonderful cic engage wonderful we have to put that on an agenda right um we used to do that too Angie Mass used to have him do it with city council when Isaac was on the city council so we'll have to bring that back um but one of the things that Luke already uh came out of the gate and did with his uh US history class um they went to Lexington conquered in Charleston already and 50 kids were able to go explore and really have a a Civic learning experience so he has some other ones planned as well and U Miss Zimmerman in eth grade is engaging our high schoolers with the recorder so we've uh used the grant to get them online subscriptions to our local newspaper and she said uh kids are really intrigued with um having a paper to read and I read it every day so I forget how often people don't physically read a newspaper um but to hear that feedback was really neat and so I'm glad that we have the grant to really give our kids those opportunities and then lastly just wanted to update you it's the first year on the mentor program for our unit c folks and uh we have four instructional assistants who are leading the mentor program this year um and uh Christine met with them last month I had to miss the meeting but they are really working hard to provide the guidance and support that our new IAS need and anytime we have a new hire we link them with one of these season mentors and really have someone to be a go-to person and I think it's really helping out in that area so thank you awesome any questions for askp I just have a quick one about the navian are you going to work with GCC I think they have a career person we have a couple they have a couple of career people would love to yeah um who's who is it still it's uh Shannon Doran yeah yeah who yeah who's been in the area doing this work for a long time she's now at GCC yeah yeah so we should get you hooked up and potentially there's some capacity building there yeah what did she used to work with us when she was at Mass higher was she at mass mass higher for a long time yeah no that would be great awesome cool thank you any questions I didn't see any okay we're good we're moving on um uh Christine do you have more to tell us tonight go ahead really I yes I do um a couple of things we had first of all uh I looked at my phone a couple times because I had about nine 9,000 text messages about the forecast so this is just a reminder that it is win it is time to start talking about snow and ice and potential impact on school and there is some potential for freezing rain or ice for the morning so um Mr Warner from the DPW and I have um wonderful productive early morning chats about the status of things so um you know no news is good news but there it's time um we um I'm sorry that Judy Bennett wasn't able to stay because um you folks will remember she came to the school committee earlier in the year to um talk about the tree planting in honor of Donna Woodcock and we I have ordered the bench um unfortunately the delivery date is a little far out in potentially February but it we believe it matches the other benches that are at the high school it will have a memorial plaque on it um Karen and Judy have both offered suggestions for the inscription and the DPW is donating the materials and the labor to pour this cement pad that the bench will be um on so I'm very pleased that we're able to move on and and get this in place um to honor Donna's memory at the high school we have um a couple of Staffing changes upcoming um some not so great some great so the not so great um Jen relli one of the aps from the Middle School um will be moving on so that position is posted and Lynn Pard our assistant special ed director is also moving us uh leaving us um that position has been posted and Karen and Dave um started some interviews today but on the positive note we have a new director of facilities that is starting Monday we have had a very fortunate quick turnaround with him um so Michael budro will be joining us on Monday and um I want to thank Ben Murphy and Joe pugs I can't say his whole last name Joe pugs on the city Side they've really been doing an amazing job working together and filling in on things that I couldn't possibly know about facilities um in the two-e interim and then um Mike was already able to come in and meet with Ben today and start the transition so it's been you know as much as um we're sad that Eric moved on there have been some nice nice working together um in the middle and we'll have Mike with us on Monday excellent is that everything I don't know I think okay questions for the superintendent all right we will move on because the temperature is dropping winter is coming um I a report from the chair is next and I just have um two quick things I wanted to make sure that we mentioned here that we have uh scheduled for next Tuesday the 14th uh the appoint interview with askp for the superintendent role in The District um that is at 6: p.m. on Tuesday and it will begin actually with a meet and greet session at 5:30 p.m.
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um for any member of the public that might want to ask casual questions before we actually have the interview in public uh by the school committee um and the other thing I wanted to uh just acknowledge is is um actually Stacy sexon is still here uh Anne child's was here earlier and has left um and yesterday they were both elected to the school committee to begin serving their four-year term uh uh in January so congratulations to you congratulations to Ann um and we uh keep moving forward and that is my report and um subcommittee reports do we need to do anything with redistricting and then uh Glenn anything from policy at this point I just wanted to add that um mayor Jenny dorer will also be a school Committee Member too so congratulations to her and congratulations to Mayor WEA Gardner on a hard hardfought race I thought it was wonderful to see the demonstration of Civic engagement in the town very well said uh I don't know if do we need to try to get in a meeting before dece before the next meeting we do apparently we do okay so could um maybe you me and Amy could compare calendars before we leave tonight and then we can check with Elizabeth thank you sure and that's for policy in case people weren't following what we were talking about any you're good with policy I'm good okay and budget any report we are still attempting to set a budget meeting our our schedules all have very this conflict so we're working on it no one's letting it drop I'll say that awesome thank you and then um collaborative for Educational Services is another one but uh a member Den is not here right now she is our representative there um and then District Wellness committee is me I do not have a report at this time I did report briefly um last uh last meeting and just to bring to everyone's attention the materials also contains School newsletters and uh commodation letters is correspondence that we don't discuss but they are there uh for for folks reference and I would entertain a motion to adjourn don't all speak at once that was member wall and a second second and uh any uh discussion any extensions any no votes we are adjourned at 8:33 p.m.
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[Music] 5:30 I heard the alarm go off oh she's got to turn the screen y sorry uh we are I'm going to call this meeting the order this is the workshop uh roll call I president Melinda saski Charlene di here Fred Ron here barer ziki here Shaya barnat here we're all here tonight thank you very much for attending yeah I didn't get to be imp page today yeah you were supposed to be weren't you yes um what we're going to be discussing tonight is the survey that we we took or we did we didn't take it we just we did it and basically yeah we had some places that one or more of us decided we needed to do some have some action you guys with me on this one yep yep okay so the first three or six the first six are we we agreed to that that that we're doing them that we're accomplishing something to do with that and then we come down to the board and acts policy supporting the efforts of the administration and helping the people of this Community to have the facts about their schools too and I don't see the rest of it was kind of but anyway that um basically we're not communicating with the community one or more of us thought about that well that would be one 20% would be one well so one or more yeah I have the old one oh you have the old one um yeah so does anybody want to fess up to this okay Charli so Sheila my my experience is just from what I hear from parents okay and mostly now that they know that I'm on the school board yeah um when they come with their kids they would just like I think more communication I don't know how I don't know why and you know some parents don't go to websites they don't do their due diligence themselves but yeah nobody's here yeah um and I I'm assuming that the parents know that we have these meetings the community knows we have them um would it uh did they do they give any suggestions on how to improve it I haven't really asked them okay I just fussed up and said that you know I've heard that's what I've heard from parents so I don't know if that necessarily just means reminding parents that we have all of these resources like sending a letter home and just stating it and and maybe or an email because we do emails right just emailing them and inviting them to the meetings I don't know if we do that but that might be something they have no excuses then yeah so that that's a solution to this problem if if you look at every principal's um report yeah they s they have in there a a calendar and they have in there governing board meeting so they may not know what that means no I I would never I wouldn't know what governing board is to be honest with you because we didn't call it that back in New York so if we sent home a piece of red paper every Thursday morning no but I mean maybe just an email to remind them okay you one simple Le email that these are the sources you can go to if you have complaints you have uh recommendations you have something that you see come to the meetings I don't know that I would say if you have any complaints or recomend I would just say if you're interested in finding out what's happening in yeah however the school district yeah because then we'll have a line of complaints oh yeah but you know just maybe reminding them that that the governing board which is your school board meets and we would value your input that makes sense it does make sense Sheila are those comments about or maybe you don't have handle com no no I'm I'm not thinking they are but um uh did they were they kind of at directed at the idea of the communication with the school board or with the district as a whole or I think the district as a whole not so much the board they would just they were just saying we really don't know like how people are paid or how decisions are made and then they need to come to that and that's just it they need to be here I think I said that last time I think I even followed up with I might get in trouble for saying this because but people need to know they're welcome and okay so because I I mean it's such a big area I was trying to figure out you know maybe the direction so that's a that is an that probably really should be addressed I was just going to mention we have a community fair thing a community resource event coming up soon and the whole idea of that is letting people know you know helping parents know what resources they have in the community for themselves and their kids and their families which is a different thing than this so if we're talking about parents wanting more information about how the district operates uh fiscally and management wise then yeah this is this is the way so that helps narrow it down a bit and I I like I said we called we called it the school board we never said governing board and now called it a school board yeah so just by saying the word governing they might not know that that's what it is sure there are some people out there that don't ask what is a governing board right yeah could we try that sure see if it works sure and then we can also we can also Blitz some information too um Lance and I haven't done a did you know recently and um um I mean you know we we try to share a lot of information with Facebook and whatever but um but if if there if these are folks particularly who maybe don't go to the website or don't look at Facebook or don't do whatever then we need to expand that that communication but we certainly can hit the other too to help those who do look at those resour need them here we really need the Community input yep we don't know what the needs are sometimes if they're not brought to us right okay so it's a solution to try yes it is I made a note and thanks for fessing up I will always fess up so if we go on um these aren't numbers on mine so I don't know okay yeah there we go uh then we come down to board members make EV effort to become acquainted with Personnel of the district we have the opposite fessing up there yeah yeah we have the opposite of fessing up um I was one of the red uh yeah I was too I was one of the red marks because I realized that you know I probably could do more I could visit schools I could exact talk to different people I've been to a couple of places but you know I could probably put more effort into it but the few occasions that I have visited things I was really you know impressed with the uh personnel and staff but that's that's a red mark for me I realize I could be doing more didto yeah I think as board members we should maybe all make a commitment that during the month if possible we at least stop in one school every month and you know it doesn't have to be the same you know the same school but stop in every month and you know introduce yourself I I went to the Middle School the uh last PD they had and stuff and introduced myself to the fa that type of thing and just the days they have PDS on those Fridays just drop in when all the teachers are there and say hi to them and you know let them know who you are and stuff and I think you know if we we all made an effort to do that once a month I think it would be a good idea what is a agree professional development day the Fridays that they have their professional development okay so that's for the kids are't there yeah mhm I think for me just knowing when the best times to do that for the school and the Personnel themselves Fridays would be best just that way You' get the onetoone with the teachers and Personnel well are we willing to make a commitment to visit one school a month even if it's Sheila and I visit the same school doesn't matter doesn't make any difference no no no I think that's and that and then maybe like you're talking about the resource fair or whenever there's more of a district function um make an attempt to be there now when you visit the schools if you take donuts and stuff for cupcakes they really like you so come with food food food is the best thing yes well I know and I want to compliment you for taking cupcakes for to the middle school because where did you take them I took them because of the fact that on their rigor training thing that we saw last month that they had improved so well among the other compared to the other schools and so I just took them over there as a reward to the teachers and stuff thank you for thinking of them yeah that was a good a good thing to do well I think that if we all make just an informal commitment to try and do that um that would be a good thing is there a chance that we could do a a Christmas party could that the board could host a Christmas party for everybody in the district it would be fun yeah that's be something different it sure would come meet the board I'm sorry Jen I was say we're also stop byal the where is it at Park what day did you say tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow you said 11 to2 Y and then it's the whole District they're all invited Awesome's inv not Reed bus drivers everybody awesome perfect okay tomorrow at Community Park cuz that's the other thing we have other employees other than teachers and principal absolutely yeah absolutely yeah but if walked in the bus Dr Barn they probably W are you here for uh lessons on how to drive a bus sure you want to teach me you might get recruited I'll we have a new app let's get her quick let's get her right now they drove in so they at least have a driver's license well I think that I would be very willing to make that that commitment to visit at least one school um a month I would make and that would be a start on this hosting a Christmas party that would be something different I think that would be great yeah so we do have the resources to do something like that right sure I mean Chartwells will make some tacos or something for us if if we if we get on it so you all need to think about who you're going to have in charge and you know and work with us we do we have straws so we could just draw straws I'm sure Cass could find something and then maybe what would it be like a Friday on one of their personal development days yeah can we can we probably not on a PD day because they're pretty full they're booked it's booked yeah we is there a Friday that is open that during that well when we get to the in the board meeting when we get to the calendar we'll look at that at that time and then make a decision on there you go okay all right moving on all right 50% of us of us said the board Mak makes an effort to keep informed about instructional program by providing for periodic reports as deemed necessary and by periodic visitation of the schools I think that we get the reports I think that this goes back to that visitation of the schools so I think that we've already started to solve this one yeah we just um and and uh if I may um uh offer a suggestion at this point um we had we had today uh the district level uh IE meeting and and looking at um uh what the sites have been doing to meet their 45-day goals and those kinds of things and um uh they shared photos of things that are going on in classrooms and um so I would encourage you in in your one one day a month visits to not just go on PD Fridays although that's a really good way to start meeting staff uh but I think at this point it would be a good opportunity to start visiting classrooms and see what's happening um we see what's changed see um uh see the things that are exciting that are really exciting that are going on in many many many of our classrooms so and that would address this for you as well is there um a space on where we can access like to know how many students and how many staff are at each school so if we did want to bring something that call cast okay you don't want to take anything for students you know board one upmanship is is interesting it might be something silly and stupid and fun like a funky eraser or something you know but just something oh of course I'm I was just you know my mama brought me up right when you come to visit you always bring something you never take back an empty dish yeah that's true that's true and then the next one we had was uh board attempts to gain information from the community this is information from the community pertaining to the instructional program um I have never asked the community to tell me about an instructional program maybe we could come up with a solution on this one too Town didn't we talk about town hall I was going to say this sounds part of what's happening in your strategic planning meeting so I don't I I would suggest to you yeah I would suggest to you that you not want to go out on Branch out on your own with that that that's part of what's what's coming through strategic planning and um are community members still involved in the Strategic plan because I wasn't there so yes and in fact uh we had scheduled uh I know this is a bit of a birdwalk but so you know because it does it's important the strategic planning is important we had scheduled a meeting for uh December 8th that Friday uh I failed to look at the calendar and recognize day it's a we've got we have all kinds of things going on with PD and our principles are going to be tied up and whatever so I'm going to be sending out a message uh an information um Monday um Monday or Tuesday Morning um to the strategic planning committee and besides December is stacked up for everybody so um uh I'm going to be sending out a a delay and put that one in January um um uh you know it's important enough that we do it well and that we have the that we have as many people involved as possible and um thinking even if I hadn't messed up not looking at the calendar thinking about doing that kind of thing in December when everybody's busy with you know many other things going on in November and December was not was not thoughtful so uh we want quality okay we want quality besides we'll be tired from Wednesday and Thursday night anyway all right um the last the last little blue and red circle we had was um the board keeps the community informed about financial needs of the district again this is goes can't in with that first one yeah it goes the first one if you can't show up to get the numbers then it's really hard to put those numbers out but maybe it'll help if we put some kind of out ABS absolutely and and there's no reason that in terms of this kind of thing um that we couldn't offer a a workshop to parents to say you know if you're interested about two months ago there was a letter to the editor uh uh talking about school finance and us paying higher salaries and those kinds of things and I made some notes to to respond or have Lance respond just didn't do it um the person who wrote The Letter um the information the person had was accurate the comments were accurate as far as they went and um you know and it and it it just revealed um uh because because it's it's complex School Finance is complex and and you know you you all know from my little school Finance 101 that it's not you know it's it's not just cut and dried and and um uh so you know people who really want to know um we certainly can offer some opportunities for them to you know to come and find out and um so I certainly didn't feel badly about that person's letter um other than the fact that um you know that that they just didn't have all of the information that they needed to make some of the comments so and I'm sure that I'm and that person was better informed than most yeah you know better informed than most people like I mentioned before that marble education you gave us that one night at that town hall was fantastic because it it was brought down to a level that anybody here could understand what you were talking about and stuff and the visual was you know really brought it down to and I and I appreciate those comments Barb you know you you know you walk the fine line of am I insulting people's intelligence by doing something that is a pretty simplistic demonstration on the other hand it needs to make the impact and um uh so you know that's I'm glad it didn't insult anybody well at least it didn't insult me and I'm a math teacher come on they've been saving them up for some time haven't they okay and then the last page was a listing of four priorities that we had um I think everybody here listed getting qualified teachers and support staff and keeping them here um I of course put down down low test scores that don't demonstrate how hard our teachers are working so we need some hard data to figure that out um I'm sure it's out there and we're working on the grading system so that that's working any bu see things that we aren't doing with or that we aren't at least making an attempt to fix do we know anything about we um sent to asba the recommendation about the vouchers for homeschoolers and did we hear anything about that yet um I know that that is one of the items uh uh that's on the um their legis their legislative okay good priorities yes good yeah very much so okay because I you were not alone um I'm sure yeah and then I saw an ad by um Mr horn promoting them so you know like it's it's out there it's just yeah okay we had some significant accomplishments all right everything from Den to child care to the empowerment piece that we put in that teachers are going through did anybody have anything else that was not on here that they'd like to add no I think we had an improvement in our school grades I still don't like these no but at least it gets the state off our back a little for a little bit the right yeah yeah we're heading in the right direction um but I think you guys need the district needs some Kudos on those kind of things thank you yeah and we we have said that to our our folks and said it again today that um uh efforts efforts are paying off and it's slow you know significant systemic change takes three to five years so uh and then we had the little blip in there for Co and and whatever but we're leaping we're leaping forward so okay it's refreshing is there any other discussion on our evaluation I I think I have one more um would you guys like to continue this type of evaluation next time or is there another kind of evaluations you've observed out there that would we'd like to try that would be different this one's fine I I think this answers our questions I think this one point I think it covers most of what our objectives are as a board okay that's good then I need a motion to adjourn the workshop please I make a motion to adjourn the workshop second it all those in favor I Melinda saski I Charlene Das I Fred rushon I Barb zarii I Sheila Barnett and we got about 7 minutes to wait I need to run and get my water at least about it oh yeah I went over and stole a bottle over the [Music] fridge [Music] w [Music] my last name first what I I I'm I'm hurting cats tonight I'm dyslexic I just signed my last name first board members please make sure that your microphone on meeting yes ma mine's not on it's on check check okay okay I'm going to call to order the meeting the normal the regular meeting on for November 9th 2023 at this time all and take a roll call present Melinda sabraski Charlene Diaz here Fred rushon here barbariki here Sheila Bernett here would you guys please stand stand and say the Pledge with me I pled aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all citizens here present would you please sign in if you haven't done so make sure that you sign in at the door we're in 2.5 call to the public you don't have to read and I don't have to read this because they have a recording okay you please this is the time that the public may speak to the governing board regarding issues within the jurisdiction of the governing board and subject to reasonable time space and manner restrictions as the governing board May establish see policy B DH comments will be limited to 3 minutes per individual unless specifically waved by the governing board at the conclusion of the call call to the public individual members of the governing board May respond to criticism made by those who have addressed the board may ask staff to review a matter or may ask that a matter be placed on a future agenda however the governing board cannot take action on matters that have not been noticed in advance as part of the agenda and I see we have uh one person who would like to speak to us tonight um Jessica Jessica Ortiz Mrs Ortiz right let be more proper thank you I did want to ask if I could just give you guys a timeline of my daughter's time in Fox Creek 7th to 8th grade and I just leave it with you guys it has to do with my um what I want to stay today okay would you please give it to uh Cassie who's our board secretary and she'll distribute as needed thank you um so basically I'm here to talk mainly about the dress code policy but because my daughter has been bullied since seventh grade and continues to be till this day um it has a lot to do with that as well uh what goes into it so I wrote down what I wanted to say because I know I have a few minutes so under dress code policy letter F it's about distracting hairstyles and it does say hairstyles in there or and and the particular place that I want to talk about is for hair with unnatural colors parentheses pink blue green scar Etc parentheses then under that it says adhering to the drift code policy again letter F School admin will have the final decision regarding the appropriateness of the student's appearance so I just wanted to bring those two up for my first I'd like to talk about this uh dress code policy in general and then I'd like to just give you the reason why and how it affected my family uh directly and among other families they just don't know how to get here to be honest a lot of people just don't know how to I didn't know how to talk to anybody I had to talk to M Stuart to figure it out and um Mr Eastman asked me if I came to these meetings and I had not um so I just feel like a lot of people don't know what to do thank you um so I just want to say it's not only us that go through this um so I looked up what natural hair colors are and there's five hair colors listed black brown blonde White gray and red now I noticed in your policy you wrote the word scarlet not red not maroon and between me and um Miss Stewart's emails one of the responses she used the word maroon to me and that's possibly because there's so many shades of red that everybody has a different color red to write down so I'm just going to use red and I'd like to also point out that when you go to the store this specific ones you usually color your hair with the Box guy you would look for those product colors as well usually I wouldn't color my hair any other color of those um next I'd like to bring up the crown act um not sure if anybody's heard about that I didn't I didn't know about it until I had to find out about this stuff um Governor Hobs in June this year did enact the crown act it talks about mainly black women and black people in general my boyfriend just happens to be black he's not my daughter's uh father just to let you know but she is a mixed race uh so it talks about the textures and the hairstyles the hair styles just like you guys have that are race based this was enacted to protect the specific race my daughter may not be that race and the hair style texture or color may not be the one listed on the crown act however this act was put in place because people were being discriminated against based on that hair a woman a man a girl a kid anybody's hair is part of their identity I've had long hair since I've I've known nobody knows me with short hair not even myself so I just feel like a parent should be the one to say what their child give their child the right to have their expression with their hair I'm not asking for my child to have pink or blue or green hair she has has dyed red hair and she actually had dyed red hair since February 2023 your policy has been enacted since I don't know when um it it's been said to me by Mr Eastman last year it changed or this year and M Stuart said it was since 2019 so I'm very confused basically the problem is um last year is when my daughter started seventh grade in Miss in um Fox Creek when Mr ozuno was vice president vice principal and Mr Eastman was um principal and then this year she still had the red hair when she started school and she only died it for her birthday for about 3 weeks in August after school started and went back to the red and September let me see it says September middle of September she went back to red so uh Mr Eastman and Miss Hanley the school counselor had seen and talk to Tatiana this year beginning of the year uh because she had bullying issues with the peers um she had not get kicked out of school nothing said about her hair no one has ever sent her home because of the color of hair that was until October 25th this year um and that was when Miss V the vice principal here at Fox Creek told her she could not um attend school with the red hair um in your dress code policy like I referred to it said at the beginning School admin will make the final decision so I'm assuming that's vice principal and principal so when I was in the um office talking to Mr Eastman he said he did not have a problem with hair he doesn't usually say anything about the hair so I'm assuming that's why last year it wasn't a problem and this year it is because of Miss Vogue in the timeline I will also say Miss Vogue also gave my daughter an erroneous BRC and you guys can look into the emails and I could I could get you that information so I'm just wondering is this vindictive is this uh harassment at this point why are you picking up my child but beyond that I just want to say in conclusion there are many different types of hair asking everyone to ad adhere to the same policy will inevitably be discriminatory to somebody or or they will feel that way my daughter has been given two options face the punishment she feels and I feel changing the color of her hair which she doesn't feel comfortable doing or staying in school and being punished and or leave the school and you don't know what is help is for the student my daughter her hair is already damaged to be honest with you because she straightened it too much already um and I just want to say you know are we not in inadvertently giving our children the mindset that certain types of hair is bad or ugly or undesirable are you not teaching them that it's not okay to treat people that it's okay to treat people different based on their hairstyle or hair color or just because how they look and I'm just asking please take into consideration at least with my daughter and the many others that can't be here like I said at the beginning um it's it's not just me I've Ted other people kids that had Mohawks I know that's a little more distracting I'm specifically asking about the red color because there's many many girls specific race gender I mean girls that were thrown out of school this year until they dad to herir that and we might my family does not want to do that she wants to stay in clock Street and I prefer her to home school because she's been bullied this is just too much at this point for me and I can imagine how she feels so I'm just asking can you please look at the policy again please take that out if your col see just the hair color red red it's not even red on there it's Scarlet it is a natural color and hers is not bright red it's not I could show you a picture but I I'd have to show you my phone thank you very much for bringing us to our attention thank you thank you okay item 2.6 adoption of the agenda I have a motion and make a motion we adopt the agenda as presented I'll second that motion all those in favor I'm Melinda saski I Charlene Diaz I Fred rushon I Barb ziki I Shila Bernett um 2.7 donations oh my goodness this is sunrise really did a nice it got a nice nice deal oh that is wonderful yeah thank you very much to that family did that yeah that is awesome beautiful and and so you know what um uh Sunrise has chosen to do is to use that money to uh purchase a new sound system for their cafeteria oh wonderful that is that's a nice thing very nice thing to do thank you and that's not to say that face painting and and pencils are not important but whoa selling a car and giving it to the school that is beautiful want to thank everybody who even thinks about things like that uh item SE 2.8 uh superintendence report U Madam president and board members um you have uh the the typical reports I'll answer any questions that you might have about any of them I will point out that I did give to you the uh aggregate expenditure budget uh report that came to us from asbo um the legislature did um suspend the aggregate expenditure limit this year when they established the budget back in June so so uh we don't have to you do the hold the money and keep our fingers crossed and stress out between now and March first uh about that but uh asbo but the state department and asbo released the information so that we would know what it would have uh resulted in for us this year had it not been overridden so I thought you would want to see uh you know want to see that report and um so 16.22% of our $19 million budget uh would have had to be um that's one it's almost $1 out of every five yes yeah almost $1 it's a little less than it w than it would have been last year which was uh here over 177% uh but it's still a huge amount of money that um you know that we would have but could not spend but could not spend um and related to that um there there are several superintendents and retired superintendent in the district who've been working uh with some other folks and with a couple of legislators um to come up with an alternative uh to having to go to the public to change the Constitution because as you know the aggregate expenditure limit is in the State Constitution and so to you know so the only thing that can happen every year is that the legislature either decides to override or suspend it for the year whichever verb you want to use or there needs to be uh some change the the wording in the uh the wording in the constitution does not designate the formula that is used it just simply says that it can't go over that and so the the state has been using a particular formula uh for all of these years since 1986 um this group of uh professionals and legislators have been working together to propose to the legislature a change in that formula that is much more in tune with what really happens in the State uh you know in in in taxing and all of those things each year so we we'll wait to see if that actually gets to the legislature um and so it would be a a different way of determining uh what the aggregate expenditure limit would be um they've run some samples on that based on the last three years data um that indicate that were we had we been using this other formula uh we would not have exceeded that um that aggregate expenditure limit so it sounds like they've come up with a pretty good and a very reasonable they've had bu business people involved so you know the relevant stakeholders and and and expert voices have been part of this so we're hopeful that something in like that happens this year so that it will not be an ongoing problem yeah yeah problem yeah um yeah because setting aside roughly $3 million uh from our budget every year is I mean that's that's like handcuffing us you know so um uh we appreciate the efforts of those folks okay um I got a question uh the the bar graphs what you guys have for the for the attendant for the enrollment excuse me yeah can go back to go to the sure the 40th Day Report uh is that that one no the other one yeah the comparison this one okay do we have any idea where these kids went the 10 and some kids we could be checking at each school to find out you know are uh when students have withdrawn have they you know have they have we gotten requests for records from another school um you know we could we could call up those data and and give you a report on that I just I haven't done it recently I was just curious as to you know do we know why those people are missing or why those kids are missing we don't we do know that some students uh some students have enrolled in the two new um uh Charter Schools uh one here in town and one in the valley uh this year so we know we have lost a few students to those schools but neither one of those schools is very big so I don't imagine we've you know I I don't know an exact number um we can we can do a a search for you for and give you a report next month I would appreciate that yeah we can do that it's just out of curiosity sure if you know um yeah you know because there may be something preventative we can do about it if we knew what knew what was happening sure any other comments or questions I have a couple if I may sure um Dr Stewart I was reading on the facilities report if you could bring that up please cat uh for diamond back I saw that they removed the large trees and uh that were becoming hazardous and I was just curious about was were the tripping hazards resolved cuz sometimes when the roots are so ingrained and the things the the the ground still stays uneven have hazards been addressed we are addressing them uh we did request uh assistance from the state facilities oversight board uh to replace some of those sidewalks they did ask us for you know if there were what reasons what causes there might have been and we had already identified a number of those places that had to do with the tree roots um particularly at Diamondback and um and so uh it was an opportune time for us to take care of those trees and also to show sfob that we were addressing the root cause oh pardon me that was not an intended gun sorry um but it is the root cause yes it is for uh for some of those sidewalks lifting and the trees here tend to have very shallow roots and they send them out long distances and in fact some of these trees well these trees were planted when the when the campus was built in 1992 or 93 so we're talking about 30 40 50 foot tall trees now I will tell you we did not address the 50-foot tree we're going to have to have professionals come do that because it is overhanging a building and even if you go and top it the chances are that that would fall on the roof and do damage to the roof so uh the ones we addressed are the ones that have been leaning over sidewalks and leaning over fences and and those kinds of things and uh but they also have the roots that have have created those problems so um uh so then it's also a matter now of removing the roots so we can remove the sections of sidewalk and replace uh we're hopeful that SFL OB will approve some of those uh but we also know that they're not going to approve all of them so yes uh that was a long answer to to yes we are addressing the real issue here now I will tell you at Desert Valley uh uh one of the places that we've had a couple of trips and falls are under the Portico in the entrance so trees have nothing to do with that that just has to do with big sections of sidewalk that over time s settle or lift and and we have places there where there's a 2-in difference at at a um at a expansion joint um uh Jenny Beck is the one who works with the the person at sfob directly um Mark Scott and I um if we were to talk to her probably would irritate her uh because she suggest that we grind down those places particularly at that site and the thing is that if you grind the sidewalk the depth of the sidewalk is only about 3 in so if you grind off 2 in at the expansion joint now what you're going to have is somebody stepping on that and breaking and now we have another problem and and so we've had these conversations about plus you'd have to grind back about 3 feet so you know there we've had some discussions about there are places where you can grind if it's a/ inch you can probably grind it down if it's 2 in that's not the best solution and so uh it's it's an ongoing conversation with them and it's not all Roots it at Diamond Back it was don't it isn't it when you grind down that cement too it it exposes the rock that in that cement yes it exposes the aggregate issue yeah because then it starts breaking down and and uh it's a it's in when you do it is a shortterm solution um uh you know a short-term safety solution but then you need to plan what it is you're going to do in the long term to fix that you know to fix that situation so um but we have uh this is you know we have the root problems throughout the district some involve some of them involve the sidewalks like this uh we've had issues with you know we've talked Plumbing a lot in the last year and uh and that's and The Roots have been the issue in some of the plumbing issues you know some of the plumbing situations because they find a way in into those you know into weak spots in the in sewer in the sewer lines particularly uh we had the one spot at Desert Valley where uh when they when they pulled the section of sewer out it was completely full of L really tiny Roots but it was completely full it looked like spaghetti but obviously no water was going to go through there because it was so full of roots so you know that it creates issues and and some of it is because the original plan or designs for our campuses didn't didn't the designers didn't think about where they were putting trees uh bushes don't do it so much it's the trees that tend to be invasive in whatever and so so unfortunately some of the shade we've had at Diamondback is now gone uh but we have to think about you know the safety and the one of the trees that um actually affected that one section you're talking about where we actually had two people trip and one person broke a broke a wrist um when they when they started cutting that tree it was split on the inside and so it was pretty dangerous it was really I mean our timing of getting it out was perfect yeah you know another wind storm and it would have been it would have been down on and hopefully not down on students or staff or visitors so we're dressing them cool thank you yeah thank you I did have one other question I going through real quick on the Consolidated board report I noticed that for Support Services the Food Service salaries were um or some salaries there were quite excessive 129% uh are we talking about the food service report yeah okay so Cass if you'd pull that one up please I believe it to be yes yep that's it right there okay it's yeah it's down by the salaries yes line 6100 right that's down by yeah I was just I was just curious about why the excessive overage there uh you know what I'm not sure because that the salaries we pay in the Food Service uh account uh are a percentage of uh uh 25% of our site secretary salaries uh our percentage of our our purchasing SL Food Service Clerk's salary um representing the amount of time the amount of their time that they spend doing food service related tasks um I didn't catch that and I will certainly find out because there's there is absolutely no reason for it to be um three time well two and a half times what I've budgeted so we I will check on that thank you for bringing it up thank you and and the the benefits are up obviously because when the salaries are high the benefits increase as well so because it's the benefits calculate as a percentage of the salary so um if I look into the first part then that will also Revol resolve the second part good catch Fred good catch thank you hey I did look huh yeah good catch anything else board okay thank you very much is we're to the consent agenda item three I'm sorry 2.9 2.9 oh I forget oh 2.9 board member updates anybody got anything important to say or not everybody has it a very wonderful Thanksgiving yes yes I just want to thank uh Bullhead middle school for making me feel so welcome the day I went over there and stuff it was it was great and the rest of us are going to get that same feeling yep okay all right um I need is there any any problem that you guys can see with the consent agenda that you'd like to talk about or is it do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented I'll make a motion that we approve the consent agenda as presented I'll second that motion all those in favor I Melinda saski I Charlene Diaz I Fred rushon I Barb ziki I Sheila Barnett okay item 4.1 policy CBI evaluation of superintendent revision second reading we need all the red is disappeared and just a reminder that the changes in this had to do with the dates and the time line in the second paragraph third paragraph sorry do I have a motion to approve policy CBI I make a motion we approve policy CBI evaluation of superintendent as presented I'll second that motion all those in favor I Melinda saski I Charlene Das hi Fred rushon I Barb zarooki I Sheila Barnett okay item 4.2 asba policy advisory 748 through 7 62 did everybody get a chance to read these I did not you did not okay so do you want to take your time to read them or do you want us to take our time and discuss them I can I can probably read through them oh we we're making motions though huh this is the second reading though so I'm sure it's fine yeah CU we already went through it and made our our we this okay I need a motion to approve policies 47 or 4 748 to 762 I need a motion to approve I'll make a motion that we approve uh Poli asba policy advisor 748 to 762 I'll second that motion all those in favor I Melinda saski I Charlene Diaz I Fred rushon I Barbara ziki I Sheila Barnett wow okay item 5.1 convenient to Executive session consideration for student discipline pursuant to ARS 384 31.03 A2 discussion or consideration of Records exempt by law from public inspection including the receipt or and discussion of information or test Tony that is specifically required to M be maintained as confidential by the state or federal law and ARS 15840 a 18 15 841 b and d and 8 or 15 843 a and F through H regarding suspension or expulsion of pupils do I have a motion to move into executive session I'll make a motion that we move into executive session I'll second that motion all those in favor I Melinda saski I Charlene Diaz I Fred rushon I Barb ziki I Sheila Bernett we are now in executive [Music] session [Music] [Applause] [Music] yeah [Music] yeah [Music] [Applause] [Music] yeah [Music] [Applause] [Music] e [Music] n [Music] he [Music] [Applause] a [Music] [Applause] n [Music] [Applause] the [Music] oh [Music] oh [Music] [Applause] [Music] here [Music] oh [Music] it's [Music] oh [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] n [Applause] [Music] he [Music] oh [Music] oh [Music] a [Music] a [Music] a to review or to return to exe to public session please I'll make a motion that we return the public session I'll second that motion all those in favor I Melinda saski I Charlene Diaz I Fred rushon I Barb ziki I Sheila Barnett I'm really interested in this 8.1 resolution regarding the sale of Mountain View Property to the city of Bullhead City I know you've been working on this hard I think that we're all both groups are going to come out smelling pretty good I'm I am excited about this um um this plan C if you'd pull up the dra the final draft the second document please that one uh I know you all saw this and it's and it's legal language it has been reviewed by our attorney uh and in fact um uh compliment of all compliments from one attorney to another um he had no suggestions for edits and said this was very very well done um so um uh you can see all the kind of legal language I think the critical part is on page two uh relative to the sale price and um so first of all uh the extension of kider marado uh to just beyond the entrance to our den project uh this is a significant piece because um this represents as you can see $396,000 that we would have had to pay from our uh Den project budget and so this is a significant piece so I look at this and I go okay that's four houses three to four houses right there um so that's a significant piece that the city is doing um the second part is uh we're U redoing all of our parking lots and the intention the plan right now is to have that happen over winter break um and our parking lots are in horrendous shape um uh unsafe and and are just terrible uh and I don't know how we would you know I don't know how soon we could put together uh because if we went out to bid and and did this otherwise it would be more than this amount of money uh so that's that's really exciting um Dr Stewart excuse me I do have a question about that are they going to include the restriping yes okay and uh and so for instance in fact there's one little piece that will actually be uh uh surfaced and that's where we made the uh the changes at the South End of the entrance to Coyote Canyon so that we had the um the drop off for our child care center and so we had a piece of a big piece of the sidewalk rerouted and there's so there's just dirt there right now so they will in fact have that surfaced and then um you know um matched into the rest of it but yes they will do the striping for us Does it include the uh hole out here that we've lost our car in for the last years you mean the Beyond where the drive is yeah no that's we're required to have that that is water retention oh so we're required to have that ditch uh there sorry Mar but driving many times yeah no that's required night and go oh crap yeah no we're not going to we're not going to get that fixed sorry um uh and then uh waving our uh annual water bill for a year and for last year it was $107,000 so they will wave that um and then um and then the Improvement to the athletic fields and uh for the Middle School um that's a significant project and as I indicated to you when we talked about this before um this probably would not start until after July 1st the new fiscal budget for the for both the city and us um because they didn't budget this in currently uh but a a a definite win for us we have you know we use those fields but seld them and and if you want them to be green and watered and whatever or green to use you have to start like a month in advance and and that kind of thing so um this will be a very nice uh fix up for us uh but also wonderful for the city and for uh for kid activities student children's activities in our community um um so it's just going to become a a little park it becomes a park time yeah it becomes a park uh it will probably involve uh a a small parking area off of Highland so people can you know pull in there uh it will definitely have some restrooms um uh probably higher fence you know taller fence than is there so they would replace the fence they would maintain it uh you know M so it they all have fairly new irrigation all three of them and we have the well so we continue to provide the the water for the irrigation and and turning on the irrigation system but otherwise they would take care of it we use it during the day and during any school activities they use it at night on weekends and for the summer um so this is this is a pretty significant um upgrade for us and for the city uh to be able to do this so um this is to me a very exciting thing and um uh you know 1.63 million is a pretty good offer for all of all of this process and by the time it's done the value of what they're doing will be significantly I'm sure the value will be significantly more than 1.6 million um so um uh we have the we have the resolution that was was in fact recommended by um our attorney for the way to deal with this uh for you to deal with it and um uh the city has already approved it it was approved at Tuesday night's city council meeting with a 70 vote uh and so um uh you know it it now Waits awaits your consideration and approval and we can move forward where is the property our um the one we're selling oh it's Mountain View school so it's been used by the city it was called it was called Sudden Link Center it's now Optimum Center and it's the oh I knew I meant to put that in there for you the map we talked about it and then we didn't put it in um uh the that property has four Parcels so up the hill it has three uh uh and then at the bottom of the hill it has one small piece oh there we go right there there we go okay so the little blue section is where the uh what was originally built as a kindergarten building uh and where the Little Red Schoolhouse used to be used to be so we're keeping that we use that for uh facility storage and um uh it it has since since I came back has been full of things once we get our shed out here and we start selling things then that inventory will go down but U we equipment that we don't use daily for facilities repair gets stored there um and then we also are uh storing some of our facility supplies there uh so that we are not duplicating orders of things so the three other properties um uh the kind of odd one odd shaped one next to our blue prop property is partly Hillside U but also has uh that first set of buildings as you go up that hill the the little skinny piece it's kind of strange when you when you look uh at the Google view Google map view and actually look at the site um uh the cafeteria SL uh gymnasium straddles that so that building is partly in this parcel and partly in the other parcel and then the big piece uh the right hand side of that is that huge Hillside that uh the city wants to lower input parking because you know there's not much parking up there no um and then other renovations to the other uh facilities buildings and and whatever so um significant piece of property Cass if you would put up the resolution please so the uh the attorney advised that um uh that if you're in favor of this that you um pass this resolution okay all right well I'm ready yeah yeah only only one of us needs to sign us only one needs to sign um you need to read the read it into the record and vote on it so read the whole thing yes okay all right do I make a motion first and then read it you uh my understanding is that you say um uh um I move this resolution and you read it gotcha and then you get a second to that I I move this resolution sale of Mountain View school property whereas the sale of three Parcels of the unused property known as Mountain View School the property as set forth in the real property purchase and sales agreement the agreement with the city of Bullhead City will not affect the normal operations of the school within the district and whereas the needs and best interests of the Bullhead City School District number 15 in Mojave County Arizona will be served by sale by by sale of the property now therefore be it resolved by the governing board of the district and the district that the district sell the property to the city of Bullhead City as stipulated in the agreement passed and approved by the governing board of Bullhead City School District number 15 of Mojave County Arizona on November 9th 2023 I'll second that motion all those in favor I Melinda saski I Charlene Diaz I Fred rushon I barar ziki I Sheila Barnett and just a side note 30 years ago that was my first placement was that Mountain View school at Mountain View School yep third grade there you go yep okay item 8.2 new position for facilities a landscaper Madam president and board members um we're now a year into our facilities department and uh we have recognized that uh two landscapers cannot keep up with the trees and the bushes and the sidewalks and the list of all those things the weeds all of the things that need to happen uh uh with six sites um plus the district site so um uh I'm recommending that we add a position a landscaper position um um to our roster of employees this is sustainable and um uh it helps us continue to do as many things as we can internally with internal employees as opposed to Outsourcing we still have to Outsource some things so like the 60ft tree or 50 foot tree um you know it's it it's sensible and and safe and safer and all kinds of things for that um but as much as possible we do the work internally and um um many almost all of our uh District level uh uh facilities employees do things that are not necessarily in their job description so uh I'll I'll give an example of um at Sunrise there was a a sidewalk that had been undercut by rain and water and uh and was eroding away that was kind of a miracle that the sidewalk had not collapsed well it needed to be fixed and so the landscapers recognized it needed to be fixed uh they started back they backfilled they got cement blocks to build the retaining wall then that um that was level with the sidewalk to to keep that from happening again um does that necessarily fall under Landscaping maybe not um but it was they were there and it was a job that needed to be done so um uh they and and the HVAC I'm using the example the HVAC uh uh technician and the general construction technician help helped with bringing those trees down because it was a bigger job than two people could do so um there's some cross training and some cross cooperation going on but just in terms of keeping up with all of our Landscaping two people can do it so I make a motion that we approve a new full year or I'm sorry a new um position and facilities for another additional landscaper I second it all those in favor I Melinda saski I Charlene Diaz I Fred rushon I Barb ziki I Sheila Bernett item 8.3 purchase of a tall van not a short van short van gos to a short van um as you know um uh when we established the facilities Department we purchased three vans standard Vans um used and um and we were pretty excited to get three for a price that uh we really thought we might only get one maybe two but they were high mileage and um uh they're they're used all the time uh and then we also have one van uh that was in our inventory but it's very old and uh it's the one that's being used well it is right now being used by Landscaping but um it's uh it really kind of we thought it was going to need to be our spare uh while any of the others were in the shop with the new Landscaping position it becomes the vehicle for the landscaper if we if you approve us looking for a van uh for the Plumbers uh the plumbers have big bulky stuff that they have to Trek around to use when they're working on plumbing and um and then they also have lots and lots of little things yeah uh supplies um so they need you know they need a van that has the shell and the bins and the whatever um uh it's It's Tricky for them both with the bulky stuff and with all of those other little things that they need uh to be in a van that they can't even stand up in and so that's the reason for a tall van uh is because this really is their this really is their office and U um so I'd like to I'd like to find one that has lower mileage um uh so it you know we serviceable longer which means it's going to be a little more expensive um but uh not new not Brand New by any means but um um with 50,000 as the max um we've kind of priced what these might run and it should be less than that but I I figured I better over overestimate a little bit so um I'd like I'd like your approval to be looking for a tall van so we have the money to do this yes we do do I have a mo motion I make a motion that we purchase look at purchasing a used tall van uh for the cost not to exceed $50,000 I'll second that motion all those in favor I Melinda saski I Charlene Das I Fred rushon I Barb ziki I Sheila Bernett thank you the plumbers will be very happy providing you can find one providing we can find one tall enough yes yeah item 8.4 revision of classified salary schedule didn't we just do this you did Madam president but we have um Cass would you put it up please changed we have uh at three of our well at all three of our sites that have preschool so at Diamondback sunrise and at uh coyote we have preschool teacher positions that are paid for with title one funding um and um Preschool teachers do not have to be certified they do have to have a CDA um um but one of the things you'll notice on the salary schedule before I put the asterisk there is that a preschool teacher without a bachelor's degree is in fact making the same salary as the parah in the same classroom and yet the person who's designated as the teacher has more responsibilities um and than the parah and um so there's a reasonable uh this was a reasonable proposal to us uh to to increase that salary for uh for the the preschool teacher who does not have a bachelor's degree uh but who has more responsibility and so um Mrs lot and I spent quite a bit of time talking about this and U we thought it was reasonable so let's say we hired somebody who came in at step eight U in terms of their previous EXP experience but we're expecting them to be the teacher that we would put them on step 10 so the idea would be whatever the person's experience is we would put them up two steps uh to recognize the fact and and honor the fact that they have more responsibilities than the par in the same room any questions do I have a motion for the revision of a classified salary schedule I'll make a motion that we um approve the revision to the classified salary schedule I'll second that motion all those in favor I Melinda saski I Charlene Diaz I Fred rushon I Barb Zar ziki I Sheila Barnett item 8.5 gate scope and sequence we got to read the whole thing too right um no no not me uh and if you have questions about this I would defer to Mrs lot uh she's worked she's worked on this and um uh um we put it on the agenda first of all because we know that um we you know we needed a specific kind of thing better than we had before for our GATE program uh but the other thing is we we probably could have put it in the consent agenda but there are requirements that uh that show that we prove that you all have really looked at it and that you have considered it on its own so that's why it's in the new business if you have questions Mrs lot is here when I when I was doing this is there any stem types materials in this program um we do we do have some in the school so I know like um you need to come to the microphone please um their own scope and sequence not like this but an actual like what units they're going to do because we do have kids M between and um gate is kind of a standalone program they don't have their own curriculum um so they do they do have some robotics um I know Desert Valley has a lot of the stum inty kits that they use um and they can they can share them and we also had money that they purchased things with so okay thank you any other questions on the curriculum I did look it over and it's an extensive document but I did notice that there was quite a lot of um repetition and it was interesting to see that someone has taken the pains to go through the whole document and make some very uh appropriate comments down there in some of those pages so um but I'm I'm pleased to see that that there's recognition that uh not only do the children that are perhaps having issues uh with learning disabilities and they get special help I'm I'm greatly in favor of um this here so that the kids who you know who knows could one day uh discover a cure for cancer that they can get the extra help they need too so this is very very good I I was pleased to see this thank you Fred do I have a motion to accept or to approve I guess this is an approval um the gate scope in sequence Madam president if you will I'd like to uh make a motion that we do accept an improve this gate scope and sequence document presented to us this evening I second that motion all those in favor I Melinda saski I Charlene Diaz I Fred rushon I Barb zarii I Sheila Barnett that was felt like a good thing 8.6 regulation K public concerns and complaints um Cass do we have both the the current one okay okay so uh this is the current one which is the one that was uh that has been presented by the um you know by asba and is the the one that currently exists um we have experienced uh and this is a good thing this is not a bad thing but we've experienced a number of situations in the in the past few months where we've had parents come in or the public come in with complaint complaints um and Cass is really good at dealing with those um sometimes I do but frequently Cass deals with it um but she had some pretty good ideas about having some much more specific procedures relative to uh to this so that both she knows what they are and our folks at the front desk who are the first contact with people who come in with concerns um and also that that the people coming in with concerns know that we have a procedure that we follow with everybody um so the document that we've presented to you uh is um uh pretty much the procedural thing and that's and that's what hap that's what usually happens in a uh regulation is that it's much more procedural so uh the other the other document the recommended document to you uh is the um changes in the procedure I still I have a problem with with G can you go down for G and it it may be just the way I'm reading it it may be you know because Charlene didn't have the same problem when it comes to where it says the board as a whole will not consider or act on I think that that's implied in the other part in the in the other part of G uhhuh okay and the somehow I read that is is being a negative to the board like a sort of a a pre-and reprimand you like you guys don't do this you know and and we are aware that we don't do this um if we could strike that I would feel a lot better about it I it's just I think you're right Melinda that the first part really says the same thing this I I just noticed in looking at the original that this was the wording in the original and so Cass may have kept it because it was in the original but the other part of G really says the same thing I agree with you Melinda y you know and it may be just that I'm the way I'm reading it but if you know well the message is the same the other the other me the other way of saying it is a little less harsh perhaps yeah a little less direct and but I want to give Cass a um a pat on the back for putting the rules together I mean this is really extensive you know and it really points out to parents what they can and what they can't do or what we can and what we can't do or what the administration can or cannot do so thank you very much g i I like it because it it's very transparent you know it's very clear that we do have so that somebody there's not that people can't say whatever they want to say but that people can't say well you made up a different procedure for me than you did for somebody else because you know I've been in here six times no this is the procedure and and and we're going to be consistent with how we do and I appreciate that and I know it will make cass's part of this job a lot easier too she can say g g you well not even that but even F or any of the others for that matter I know um president Dr Stewart may I one minor suggestion on E on which one e c e um the first phrase the administ the system of the superintendent my suggestion is you may want add in there or designate and the reason is that way if somebody else is assigned somebody else can't come back and say well this say would be for example because there are several people who sometimes handle it and that also takes a little pressure off of Cassie if there are multiple people who have to deal with multiple situations coming in so I just think or does it coverage that's another excellent suggestion or design thank you so any others no okay so can I have a motion with those two changes I make a motion we accept the revised case e-r public uh concerns and complaints form with the uh two recommendations that we made that in E we add as design or design I'm sorry and in was that g that we take out the uh last sentence I second that motion all those in favor I Melinda saski I Charlene Diaz hi Fred rushon I Barb ziki I Sheila Bernett item 8.7 regulation ebbb accident reports and with exhibits ebbb EA and E BBB e b lots of B's there Madame President and board members uh Cass brought to my attention recently that we've been using two have needed to use because we had one in policy and then we have one from the trust uh two accident reports uh primarily the accident reports for students and um they had some information that was the same and some that was different uh she asked me if I thought that we really needed to have two of those that had to be filled out every time that we had an incident and I said I don't think so I think that we could have one that incorporates certainly incorporat everything that the that the trust wants uh and then any other information that we want she worked with Jamie catell who is uh uh kind of the ad hoc lead Health attendant uh to make sure that we had the appropriate things in the exhibits and and in this so uh I'm recommending that you approve um uh the revised eb- and the uh three Associated exhibits why am I seeing three I see e and EA and EB oh okay oh e was the old one oh gotcha sorry so the revised regulation and two uh replacement exhibits okay uh I make a motion that we approve um the two revised accident reports um forms ebbb D EA and add ebbb EB um um the followup and the regulation yes in the regulation and the regulation it's and the regulation excuse me I'll second that just don't ask to repeat that right all those in favor I Melinda saski I Charlene Diaz I Fred rushon I Barbara sariki I sha Bernett item 8.8 asba policy advisory 7487 to 763 regulations and Exhibits Madam president and board members these are the exhibits that um we don't present those until after you after you approve the policies so earlier this evening you approve those policies and now you're approving the recommended um regulations and Regulation and exhibit that are associ associated with those policies do I have a motion to approve you could we uh Madam Madam president could we just uh bring these up on on the screen please cast to give those present an opportunity to maybe take a look at it as well with us thank you and in this case you can see the changes because they're underlined so very little change from the previous policy perfect thank you Cass Madame President I move that uh we approve policies ih- basic instructional program and policy jrc a-r request for transfer of student records as presented I'll second that motion Mo all those in favor I Melinda saski I Charlene Diaz I Fred rushon I Barbara sariki I Sheila Bernett this seems like a longer meeting tonight does it seem like about no no you just having a long day oh okay 9.1 future topics do you does anyone have any future topics that we would like to consider anybody um I'm hoping that on in the December meeting that we get to see some results from Galileo they're taking those they've been taking those this week okay and we're going to see some we should results right we'll have results yes perfect and that was the only thing I had on there anybody else okay upcoming board events here we go oh my gosh there's there's almost no time we could have our Christmas party on the crushed governing board meeting day and then invite them well that would be pleasant that would be a nice thing to do yes H anybody have any suggestions or do we want to continue with our with the possibility of a Christmas party looking at the schedule and everything that for December it's like you know there isn't an open time that I could see I might recommend that uh in January when the teachers come back have a a a welcome back for the second semester that according to this schedule I think that's about the only thing we've got great suggestion do we have January on here by chance no no so it's probably pretty open well we have a little that gives us a little more time to think about yeah what what you might want to do and when to do it in January exctly gives us a little more gives you gives you you know for your December meeting to do that Cassie a little more time yeah um is anybody going to the asba annual conference anybody thinking about it I know that I can't and Barbara can't and I know that Caroline can't Caroline can't I have training in Nashville okay actually Alabama but we'll be busy singing that night those two nights or trying to okay well I'm sure we'll hear about our resolution at that time yeah or after that um any else on that date and time and location for our future meeting December 14th we have December 14th is any everybody going to be in town on that day mhm I hope so because we will have a budget revision oh no that we have to do before the 15th and and uh um and I will have it posted pretty early there there's not a they're not significant changes but um uh the budget I submitted uh has a calculation piece that doesn't match what the state says so uh I've got to fix that piece so uh it doesn't it doesn't significantly change our budget it just changes the some of the information in there so uh but but I will have some changes because I some things will move from one category to another so that we can uh cover that tall van uh and then I will also have uh probably that night a recommendation relatives to us uh planning uh in planning into the budget designating some funds that we will kind of encumber uh for a uh special ed bus okay and um a short bus those are not a tall one this one's a short bus well it'll probably be the regular height it's not going to be the regular length of some of our buses yeah it's a short her bus that was always the thing do you go home on the short bus yeah yep I do I do I do but actually the one we would be talking about is is not as long necessarily as some of our regular buses but it's not one of the short buses it would be a bus that has a wheelchair lift so it's one of those medium medium length uh because the current SP bus that has the wheelchair lift uh is well over 20 years old and we have in fact recently had to replace the chair the the wheelchair lifts so um and we need more so um that will be one of the significant changes in in that and it will also be an action item um uh and we have some other things that you know need to happen in December so I noticed that on December 16th we don't have anything about the mckin vento uh oh yeah yep the mckin vento party on the 16th 16th so i' I've got another request just to try from to Cassie um Cassie when you put out the agenda and all the associated pieces of material goes and you do it at what 5:00 on Wednesday we're adding to it the whole month she will start the new agenda tomor well no not tomorrow because it's holiday when you actually publish it and we get it to look yeah is there a chance that we could get most of that information the stuff that you aren't added adding the time earlier because I have a hard time on Wednesday night if you log in you have access all month oh okay all month if you but you have to log in okay because then you can see as we add these things you can see them and we try to add them many of them as early as we can so that you have time to review perfect but nothing will be added after 4 p.m.
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um I started with and I want to start with because just kind of talking about starts with uh it kind yeah it kind of starts we kind of start um very often with this idea of what we call the ABC of behavior that there's something that's called an antecedent um antecedants are the things that are happening around us that we are experiencing through our site our hearing our smell whatever um and then because those things are happening around us we then react to them and our reactions are our be are the behavior and then however we react whatever that behavior is there are consequences um consequences are often the term consequences often associated with like negative or punishment but really consequences are just any outcome from the behavior um so right now an antecedent for most of you is I'm talking and showing slides um some of you are listening some of you maybe looking at the slides and that's why you're choosing to behave and then the consequences are you're just maybe learning some new information or maybe getting a refresher of information is that kind of how that works but one of the things that's important for us to really understand is that it it's really not a direct path from the antecedent to the behavior because what happens in between we experience something and we behave is that our brain does some work um and our what our brain really does is is it tells us how we should feel about the about the things in our around us and what kinds of thoughts we should have and then based on those feelings and thoughts we choose a behavior in response and all of that happens in our brain but then all of this pattern in terms of antecedence and the behavior and the consequences all happen in our different school-based environments um so I just before I even go any further and try and talk about where all the different committees kind of fit into this diagram does anybody have any questions or or need any anything explained a little bit differently so that we all have a clear understanding of this basic model okay good we're good okay yeah we're good okay thank you um so um the first committee I mentioned was the assistant principal PLC so what you can see is their work is kind of laying on top of this model starting with a behavior happens and then there are consequences um and they're really focusing this year um in terms of this inter interrelated work on um designing and enhancing um what's currently referred to as a discipline Matrix for the for the district to kind of get an idea of giving guidance on um like when certain unexpected behaviors happen how should we respond if we do have to like when do we just call a parent when do we do a suspension when do we do restorative practice all those kinds of things are part of that Matrix and the assistant principles are working on on designing and enhancing that practice so that we can have consistency on that end of this districtwide the next committee um right is that um Equity Justice and advocacy work um and it really focuses a lot more on the front end of this in terms of establishing environments that are very thoughtful in terms of of of our equity and how we're making sure we're treating kids fairly making sure we're building environments where kids feel um safe um and um and supported um and that work is predominantly being done through ongoing work with District leadership in what they call Deep equity in terms of its study and then also through the youth Equity stewardship or yes programs that are happening at our schools this year with uh different grade levels of students at different campuses then there's the behavior and support committee work which kind of overlays on both of that it's really going to be focusing on um how are we prevent preventatively um supporting Behavior so that unexpected behaviors are less likely to happen how are we when we do get to the consequence side how do we make sure those consequences are about teaching and reteaching of skills and how and addressing skill deficits both in terms of social skills emotional regulation skills um is so that perhaps we can teach and make sure everybody our students have the skills that they need in order to maybe have different types of feelings and thoughts when different antecedence happen so they make different types of Behavioral choices the last committee then is this committee and it kind of lives around all of that um while the three the AP PLC this the um Equity Justice and advocacy committee and the behavior and support committee are kind of doing their work in hopes to be able to start implementing things pretty soon um this of course we're now looking at board policy and what will happen as we go on is that in information from those three committees about what where they're going will kind of feed into some of our discussion and then as we start coming closer to recommendations and certainly when we get to recommendations what we're thinking and what we're recommending will then go back and inform some of the um practices that they're putting into place so anybody have any questions about the four committees or how they kind of fit together yeah um so and if you explained it and I just didn't please feel free to explain it again wh which one of uh which one of these committees is responsible for in some part uh for equal maybe equal as not Equitable uh implementation of uh of uh of processes either interventions or Consequences for from site to site so it's all three of them in their areas so um when the aps are working on the discipline Matrix it it's the intent of that is so that when we're dealing with the consequences of the punishment types of pieces that there's equity in terms of how those are happening across the district for the other two committees um their work is also about all all the work is really about making sure that we're building towards that um um consistency from sight to site um so that you know if any student moves from one school in our district to another school in our district they have a certain expectation of you know of what's going to be expected of them and if they were to you know violate the the school rules in any way what they can expect would happen in terms of processing that and and addressing that so yeah a followup question and it's if the proper person ask or if anybody in here is can answer this do do do you feel like that is successful and the reason I asked that question is because I I've gotten feedback too and I've heard feedback from different sources over the year and my understanding is that is an issue that there is not consistent implementation um when you go from school to school and if if I'm wrong that's please tell me I'm wrong but I've I've heard from you're right definitely people are watching um and they're reaching out and um and I'm I'm trying to filter it in a way that is a little bit more presentable um but there's a lot of frustration um and uh and it's not from one particular site there's there are some hotpots where I hear more than others um but the the anecdotal it's not statistical it's not it's not conclusive the anecdotal evidence that I get is that um there are some serious problems so if I if I could take that one James just because um you know this is something we've been working on and the reason for the multi-layered Committees is kind of us trying to get our hands around that exact thing but what I'd like to preface it with is one of the things that I learned over the course of the last week or was perhaps reminded of is that very often um two or more things can be true at the same time even if it seems like they can't be true so you know my answer to the portion of like has there been Equity across the board of what consequences are for you know different types of things that happen at sites I think it is simultaneously true that there is more Equity than is perceived and yet there's not perfect equity and so the the and actually feel free to jump in Brian and Adriana because you've been part of the AP group and so what's happened over the last couple of years is um Dr dupin's been working with the aps to try to create more standardized practices and to really create a strong integration of restorative practices and you know one of the things that sometimes gets confused is people think oh well this person had a restoration but they also had you know a disciplinary consequence well the two aren't mutually exclusive sometimes certain things carry a disciplinary consequence but there still needs to be a restoration to the school community and sometimes the restoration to the school Community is adequate in and of itself because of the nature of whatever the situation was um I think one of the reasons that there is this anecdotal sense of a lack of equity is very often all of the details of a circumstance can't be shared due to privacy you know rules and responsibilities around things like you know furpa and Hippa and all of those types of things so there are times where two situations very much look the same and I'll give you a quick example without using any names um in a very brief period of time we had two completely different BB gun incidents but the in one of those incidents there it was a broken BB gun that never left a backpack and was never brandished and in another incident there W was a functional BB gun and the handling and things that happened with that Babb gun were different right so you might say these happened at two different sites and two different sites handled the circumstance differently but in fact what happened is there were two similar stories at two different sites that had two very different specific set of circumstances and those specific set of circumstances carried different levels of weight as to what the potential consequences of those circumstances were so in an anecdotal at an anecdotal level someone might say oh well we had these two and at this site they overreacted and did this and at this other site you know there was there was Zero consequences in those circumstances as well sometimes the nature of the student themselves makes a difference what's the age of the student is it a special education student is there you know a difference in cognitive capability to understand what is happening so a whole weird situation itself is under the as well right right and we've had we've gotten the opportunity to have some wonderful conversations about that so but there's now yeah exactly so um yeah yeah exactly so um so there you know and that's probably not the world's best example it's one that came to mind pretty quick but I've I have had the opportunity in the district to listen to people talk about well this happened here and that happened there where I've had a deeper knowledge of what the two incidents were and could tell that those folks were overreacting to the differentiation because it was really not the way they perceived it but also be in a position to not be able to correct them because the things that I knew I knew by nature of my role and I'm not allowed to divulge them to other people so um so that's that's why the two things can be true at the same time I think sometimes people have a false sense that things are inequitable but I will also say and I think I think Brian and Adriana would agree with me we have not had a perfect system we've been moving towards Improvement but there really hasn't been sort of a a set of uniformity to anyone satisfaction and that's one of the reasons that the assistant principal PL plc has taken on this concept of building a matrix to try to create you know at least a tool set to be able to create greater U standardization and a way for you know different people to know what's going on because the other thing that sometimes happens is things don't always happen on the day that the that the assistant principal is well and on site right sometimes they're not there and someone else is stepping in so having those tool sets helps it be more functional for the right things to happen when things sometimes go wrong um and then that's also part of the reason for the desire for the behavior and support committee because as we're seeing increases and challenges and based on the model that Allen showed us one of the things that we know is we very often are running a foul of a lack of executive function skills and one of the things we're really observing in the district right now um is we've had elevated student mishaps due to lack of executive function we're actually starting to see a lot more of that with adults right now as well and so you know one of my suppositions is I think I don't think there's a lot of coincidence in that I think one of the reasons we've seing these increases with students is because students really only are able to build their skill sets based on what's modeled for them and so one of the hopes from this team is to try to find some ways to help support students with the those skill sets so that way we can help them have those and Allan described this very eloquently you know even in the consequence often that retach component of how do we help students have the base skills they need to avoid getting into this circumstance again is really the critical component because most people don't wake up in the morning and say I'm going to go to school and I'm going to create this situation you know typically it's more along the lines of the model of what Allan showed where there's an environment of circumstances and I would say things like aces are also incedent so now I'm using jargon so I'll correct myself so um and someone will have to help me with the acronym yes thank you adverse childhood experiences and the concept of this is you know as we go through childhood you know for for some children they have some pretty severe experiences a child and those traumas stay with them and they impact how they will behave under a certain set of antecedents that is different than a child who maybe did not have those adverse childhood experiences and then even beyond that when we talk about some of our students with very specific needs um one of the things I learned a long time ago doing Safety Committee work in another life um autistic students when the fire alarm goes off they don't line up orderly and go out to the field they find something to hide underne to get away from the sound right so if you build a model for clearing a room that has autistic students in it you're likely to not have a successful model and so you know and it's just one example of where a behavior might be different because you know a child is somehow neurologically different and so we need to factor all of that into these behaviors and supports as well so that's really why this work is so important so we're really trying to get to how do we standardize things things better but even by standardizing them better there will at the surface level appear to be differences and those differences depending upon you know people's perception of them you know we make up our own myths right like when we don't know you know why the rain falls from the sky we you know there's you know there was a fight in the sky and someone's crying right or whatever as opposed to clouds and whatnot when we don't know why there appears to be a difference between what happened at Brian's school and what happened at Adriana school we make our own suppositions but what we don't have is all that background information about what were all of these other components of antecedence that led to despite it sounding like there were similar events than being sufficiently different that the consequences are different go ahead I'm sorry um I was to Echo what you're I think that um a lot of it is behind the scenes like the coming together and the having common ities uh somebody who was once on the AP text thread um they are constantly working through talking about like well what did you give for this situation yeah but this they'll like say and well here's a mitigating Factor here's an aggravating factor and so those conversations that they're having is almost like a slow burn process to like a really strong commonality and how we respond to discipline um and they do take into count so what you see on the outside of what their AP work is is like this kid got suspended and this kid got a sort of conversation at a lunch detention but um what we aren't all privy to is the conversation that the schools are having together and that has dramatically increased in the time that I've been I was an assistant principal for four years but from my first year to now way more communication with the team I think and what I can say it is at least daily if not more that something is being brought to the team to say hey so this is what's going on um and without sharing like identifying details we get what are the circumstances and then we talk through and sometimes we don't have initially the same reaction and then when we propose different reactions then we talk through okay but now let's let's figure out where we should land and so the AP team has been doing a lot of that I think part of the work of the PLC let me brief that I know the purpose of the work of the PLC is because we're doing all of this but it's not visible yeah right and so we're coming up with something that is visible that is easy to understand and I will tell you that is the hardest part of what we're trying to accomplish with it is to take something as complex as multiple conversations weighing the mitigating factors so the pieces that make this hey there like there's some understanding of why this Behavior occurred and there were other circumstances in play the aggravating factor is like hey so this behavior is a little bit more concerning or alarming because of this this and this right trying to find a way to lay that all out in a format that is still useful is what we're working through right now as the AP committee the AP PLC and that's what we're working on but that idea and going back to what Jay said that idea that the appearance of inequity will be there is likely going to anecdotally continue our our goal is to put on paper kind of the processes that we're following so that everybody can understand it with that one but anecdotally because there is so much information we get from the interview that even the teacher in the room who first reported the behavior isn't aware of we talk with the student we find out what those feelings and thoughts were that aren't readily visible and that plays a large factor into what's happening that plays a large factor into where do we go from here because ultimately and Allan's talked about it and Jay's talked about it the goal with pursuing a consequence where we are imposing a consequence on the student is to provide them with the skill set so that the next time they're faced with a similar set of events we don't see this unexpected behavior that ultimately is going to cause harm either to the child who's showing the behavior or to other children around or other people around we're trying to kind of get through all of those pieces and I think the only other thing um is that it's so easy for us to or I will speak for myself it's easy for me to often see where the problems are and not to notice when the like sailing is smooth and so I think that there's a lot of stuff that we've are doing now that like we weren't doing a year ago that a bunch of schools are are all doing together um but we take for granted that it's there because it is working the easiest one for me is like Community circles we've been talking about Community circles for several years at some schools but it's just the past year two years that like all schools have been doing community circles so I I okay I um I I think like the the teacher side has probably focused a lot more on the A and the B and not really uh so much on the C because they rely on leaders to fulfill the C part and often times it becomes situations where your options are some variation on suspension or in school suspension once it reaches that level right the the A and the B part I think where the the teacher teacher comes into play is so I'll give you an example there was a teacher that was saying you know I've reached out to my principal to ask for S support and help and I feel like my teach I feel like my supervisor is only concerned about whether or not I have an objective and success criteria posted I guess that's a thing now in the district um and that they the conversations are really focused on that and not so much on support on the different options that a kid could have and the different things that are available in the toolbox to be able to say how you know what can we do with this kid and in some cases their extreme situations described as extreme anecdote take it for what it is is that they're they they're like you know I'm bombarded with all this paperwork and stuff that I have to go and do before and all the burden is on that so the only consistent process that I'm aware of is mtss that we all use throughout the district and within that process they're like well I don't know if I should even bother with that because nothing's going to happen anyway and that's not happening everywhere but it is happening at certain schools according to them um and I just I I wonder about that is that uh is that a team based thing is that a policy based thing is that a process side because the flip side of that is that you have people that are set up like they'll say well this is this teacher is really really good this teacher does a really really good job and uh you walk into their room you're a part of their room and you see in their room and it's it's they're quiet but they're quiet for a reason and it's usually because they're afraid because that teacher has a real Stern hand and stuff anecdotal stuff all that St but I just feel like there's the the the difficulty here is and going back to what he was talking about is it is there a district wise consistent form of like this process or is it individualized based on the situation and can they both exist simultaneously I don't know I I'm just asking the question if I'm understanding kind of the Synergy of the different committee how we're working together there were a few things to unpack in the concerns that you had there um and and kind of sticking with the ones pertinent to the direction we're moving in with the policies there's a lot about controlling the environment that everything is happening in that's going to control the antecedants to our behaviors right there's a lot about setting up a healthy environment and that is a lot of the work around Equity Justice and advocacy right that's part of the other Behavior committee I don't remember what was called I AP behavior and support behavior and support committee so they're focusing on that they're also looking at how do we help students to process the feelings and thoughts when we are in a situation that something is happening right and so yeah we have District work coming alongside there some of the policy work that we do can inform what that is one of our questions is does this match who we are right and so that can inform it I'm going to be honest the assistant principal side that's mostly focused on what's Happening after the behaviors as well it should be it's going to have some impact on some of that when you have students who are repeatedly showing different unexpected behaviors um and that's going to come into play because ultimately the purpose of like I said earlier imposing that con has to be how do we provide the student with the capability of not showing the unexpected Behavior given the same scenario in the future right and so to answer your question James I think for the parts of the concern that are specifically focused on managing behaviors and different things like that in the district the four committees that are working right now are going to take steps towards making sure it feels more consistent in it looks more consistent and it is more consistent right now there are places where we are very consistent where it maybe doesn't feel that way or look that way um prime example is the applc work doesn't always look that way or feel that way we are getting more and more consistent with it because we talk all the time um if I ever walk away and can't look at that chat for an hour I come back to anywhere from five to 30 messages of people going back and forth and getting information and not all of them are about Behavior some of it is about stuff like evaluation some of it is about stuff like sports and different things like that but there's a lot going on that I think we need to show what that is and that's part of what the Committees are working on this year is to show what it is that is already getting more consistent and then to continue to work towards that consistency I think ultimately what we're doing here with the policies is going to have to drive some of that consistency in other places agreed yeah because ultimately I know when we as the AP team are sitting down to look at different things the first place we go to is okay what does our policy say about this because if our policy has something in it that talks about this that's our first resource that's our first thing that we have to make sure anything we do is aligning with that and so if there are concerns in terms of kind of globally how things are being handled the policies and the wording in the policy is going to be one of the key components to look at to make sure we are moving forward um could you describe you said that they're more and more consistent this year the Committees could you describe some of the successes that you feel consistency has been we are working towards that consistency so we are working to become more consistent and more visibly consistent that's the purpose the in what are told the behavior in support committee has representatives from multiple areas within the district with the intention of making sure we're becoming more consistent with it the equity Justice and advocacy working group they are working on do we have consistent programs in place to create the environments where students need to learn are we giving students consistent skills coping skills is what we call them right um to process the feelings that are coming up in a way that's going to prevent a behavior that's potentially harmful right so there are places where we are working to become more consistent already what the Committees are doing in this is one making it more visible making sure that we are sharing the information hopefully and then two continuing that work of okay so if we've got this piece down what is the next piece of that and that's where we're going to be working okay I I'm sorry if i b i it's not my intention to bog down it's just I for me with with this I I I I agree with the communication part I think communication is important um especially when you're talking with because n other people just want to know and sometimes you're right you can't tell them I get that but um uh I I think it would be helpful in when going across these policies and however this goes however this gets communicated is that um that I'm able or that we're able to go and go back to people and say Hey you know this is the consistent parts that are happening um I I know a big thing was training um that people just feel like they lack a lot of training and how to deal deal with situations and the other piece was options right there is a feeling among some that their option is find a way to deal with this kid either on your own or among your team they'll just go and move that kid from Team to team I can't take him anymore can't deal with it you take him for a little while tag you're it because if they send them to the front office they get sent back right and that's the perception I know that's one piece of the pie and I know but that's that's the perception that goes along with it right so they they feel like there's if you're not going to suspend this kid if you're not going to in school suspend this kid what what is happening you know what what is going on and um I I think that that's an important part of the work that in my opinion is not consistent across I think it depends on the effectiveness of the teams at each school um and um it it's something that that if there is consistency to be found I think that's the place in my opinion because right now there are there are sites from my perspective that are doing really really well and I'm not saying they're they they don't have problems there are problems there are things that are going on um and I don't know maybe it's the resources that they have at their disposal that aren't available at other sites I'm not sure um but there is a perception that a few sites are not there yet yeah and one thing I just wanted something you said triggered a thought for me too James like um you mentioned in one of the examples like somebody said hey I'm having all these behavior problems can you help me and the feedback they got was are you implementing these instructional strategies right and the two really aren't um separate because uh one of the things that we're learning is we always used to worry about engaging kids we don't have to worry about it every child is engaged the question is what are they engaged in or by so if you if you don't have you know posted objectives and success criteria the child doesn't know what they're supposed to be doing I know when I was a kid when I didn't know what I was supposed to be doing that's when I got in trouble right because I'm I'm off task it's the same thing like with um one of my favorite tool sets that we don't that we sadly don't have everywhere is a tool set called audio enhancement where you sort of got the speaker system and the teacher as a mic and they don't have to yell they can talk in a nice even tone like this and everyone can hear and the reason I love that tool set is it's one of the few technologies that there is a ton of research that it says it improves behavioral outcomes for kids which subsequently improve learning outcomes for kids because there's less disruption in the classroom and the reason for it is super logical because if I'm the kid sitting in the third or fourth row of the classroom and I can't hear the teacher clearly I can't hear instr instruction I don't know what's going on I'm going to find something else for myself to do by virtue of finding something else for myself to do I'm likely to create a problem in that classroom but if I can clearly hear instruction and what's going on the likelihood that I'm going to be engaged in what the classroom's trying to do is much higher and so so that's I it it worries me sometimes when I hear people say well the feedback I got was to improve instruction well maybe that's not the total answer and that's not fair and that person needs more support than that and I find that completely valid but to throw that out with well that's not going to help me at all I don't think is valid either because you know in reality if kids are having an amazing learning experience the likelihood that they're going to be disengaged and and embarking on poor behaviors is less I also get that it's extremely difficult that create that perfect learning wonderful learning environment when you have some students that are problematic for you and you're feeling like nobody's helping me deal with these students so again one of those circumstances where where both things can be true at the same time yeah and I don't I don't I don't want to come off as being um like attacking because I can tell you that there's just as many comments and feedbacks that I got from people that are upset about and anecdotal upset about teachers right they they feel like there are some teachers that shouldn't be in the classroom they just should they're they're ineffective to the point of like they'll they'll yell at kids they I've heard things about people teachers cursing I mean it's it's a big deal right so I'm not saying it's a leadership issue I'm saying the consistency where you have that you know that you have you can't like I always my question was you know you can't you can't teach somebody to be nice right but you can give people strategies and have expect and saying you know what you're going to be this person this is the expectation I have and the the teachers their attitude is like this person makes me look bad right because then other people they think oh well the whole the whole team is like that you know and it's just it's a bad situation right so I I'm sorry that that's my piece I just didn't want I felt like I was like oh leadership leadership no that's not in you weren't doing that you probably were seeing me being like okay okay but you weren that was we processing you I just think that like the the policies and stuff and I and I and I I hope I'm not taking us off into a left turn here but the I I think that's why it's that the lenses that we talked about I think that the the consistency is is is Paramount in my opinion well and I think when we get back to the work too we had mentioned we would talk about like what questions or what feedback might we want to get from other people but we can kind of like focus in because they're going to hear this meeting and they're going to have thoughts right and so we can kind of all gather that together so I think that we're gonna we're going to get that feedback and so it's great that you're sharing it but once we like kind of get into it I think we'll have like more actionable things to respond I think one of the other things to keep in mind is the consistency comes from the implementation of the policy the policy in itself what we write should be internally consistent if it's not internally consistent we've got a lot more problems anyways so as we're going through this we want to remember that we want to build something that is easy to to one easy to understand where we're going with but also building something with the thought process that we need somebody to be able to consistently um and so with that I'd like to start looking at jic um here's the great part we talked about the four lenses we want to look through we didn't talk about how we could actually track recommendations um so I have it pulled up in a Google doc right now um what I can do is airPlay it onto the screens and then if there are edits we want to make I can remember how to turn on tracking edits and go from there yes you have jic is what you have right jic okay yes um while you're doing that can I ask what was what was the guidance from the governing board on ji and jir that's coming hav had a meeting yet oh gotcha and then also Hilda and I had a conversation but maybe my brain's not working correctly we landed on the same page about that so we don't actually need to go back to the yeah say it's not I figured we weren't doing that today anyway in this meeting so I didn't need to like go all into that Megan can you tell me how to spell your last name I got the BR and then I didn't know what letter came next and there were too many people popping up I couldn't see your name um all right so I've shared that let pop up there let's play the game where it's way too small for anybody to read right now and you can tell I opened a new window for this because there are only three tabs at the top so with this one our four questions are what are the statutory requirements I'm writing and talking and I never do that well I apologize what are the statutory requirements and I'm blinking on the rest of them does anybody remember them are we align with our vision thank you um feedback loop of other things that's going on and is there something we can do is there something there we go is there something that we can do can I see that oh I just it what are the statutory requirements how does this align with who we are what are we missing and how does this work in practice I don't know yeah um I like your avatar Megan did you um share it with me I did not apologize would you like sure what is yours it's just Catherine I it's our first initial our last name right yes K Gibson m i could even remember what it was thank you uh s St a UT statute stat oh yeah so it would still be UT or1 give me just a second that's a pretty neat right what are we missing and then how does this work in practice and how does this work in practice so with that in mind starting with jic this first paragraph where it says the Stu or superintendent will establish regulations governing the conduct of students in school traveling to and from school at school functions or affecting the school order in establishing these regulations the superintendent May consult with student or staff committees in addition to compliance with regulations established by the superintendent students are expected to obey all rules and regulations adopted by the governing board and to obey any order given by a member of The Faculty or staff relating to school activities it's a lot of words yeah any thoughts on on the like so kind of looking through it de any order given by a member of yeah I think we are words SMI thing because that's what it's going to to like change the cultural implications of some of these policies and then don't finish your conversation I'm I just want to make sure they or at least that was my intention situation what do we want to do we can go a through K first we can do the paragraphs ask question as my question is what in this particular policy is actually statuto required to be in the to be in policy because before we worry about word smithing or what do we want to change and I agree I there's a lot of word smithing I'd like to see happen based on the philosophy talk about this whole this whole section is is a little awkward to me but yeah but it starts to me like what in here is actually St I know there's a couple places where ref first the statute and there certainly references to statute but what if this is actually required to be part um I think the first part uh is a way the first two sentences are like a way to kind of lay the foundation for the delegation of the superintendent Authority here and so that's kind of necessary um and then it also those specific things that the superintendent can do are certainly laid out in statute as far as as it come as far as the last two or the LA I guess that's one long sentence at the end um that I think was a freestyle as far as I could find when I was looking through the statutes in this particular uh policy there's nothing about obeying orders and rules the only thing that statute talks about obeying is a lawful like order or request to leave campus when somebody's trying to trespass somebody but other than that there's no language like this in a statute anywhere so I think that last very long sentence can be modified a lot and it just refers to an expectation yes so it it really doesn't have any functional use because it's just an expectation yeah so I would say we definitely need the first two sentences to stay in their meaning yeah maybe you could like maybe we could go through this and highlight things that are areas for change and then come back to them as through or just to get our first little um I like pink okay it's my favorite color so we're going to highlight things to come back to that are not required to be in there and pink so things that are not required instead of required correct so my what my understanding though were you you were just speaking to what's required in this first paragraph then when you answering my question yes sorry you want to and then I was gonna have us go through and I thought maybe we highlight as we go which which is fine okay I just mind I just wanted to make sure that as far as the next sentence uh yeah that's pretty much uh from statute so we'll probably leave that in there as is um doesn't seem like there's anything much freestyled there um and then as we go on that very first um now this is where it gets weird because like this first part is like an introductory part that's kind of on its own that doesn't actually not you know it's an expectation right what is improper Behavior that's up for discussion right but now we know that we have this list of things that are statutorily improper but other than that you know we'll get into the weirdness of all this but obviously that intro line is something that can be edited if we want to add or take something out or change what the words are exactly um and then some of these in this list as we'll go through are statutorily required and some of them are Quasi and some of them aren't um the first one um is directly related to a criminal statute that's the next that's listed in the next one down which is uh 20 911 so any conduct intended to obstruct Destructor interfere with teaching research service administrative or disciplinary functions or any activity sponsored or approved by the board uh technically that is covered under 2911 because it's also threatening or interfering or disrupting an educational institution so it's all in one in that statute so I'm not sure why they put two subsections here but they did um but they're basically all covered under that one criminal statute which is anytime you see the 13 that's a criminal law anytime you see the 15 that's the education [Music] lawas yeah so yeah exactly and then yeah so physical abuse harm or threat any person yes uh because again that's going to be covered under that's the statute listed in B so yes a little redundant going on a b and c so maybe there's a way there to combine things so it's not there's not as many I don't whatever you guys decide but there is there is some differentiation because there's a difference between the threat and the conduct so yes but there're like like you were saying Katie that that could be kind of combined into a single letter where they're all interwoven yes but all the three of those are all laid out and covered in 13291 and is all considered criminal and 15 student uh 15841 is basically the statute that tells like how schools are allowed to expel or put kids in alternative education programs so yeah it's kind of like related all right damaged or threat of property damage to to the district regardless of the location or to property of a member of the community or a visitor let me just look really quick at 13 2911 because otherwise criminal damage by itself you can't just get with a threat so just one second yes so it's still covered under 13 2911 typically if somebody at your house is threatening to damage your property that's not going to be criminal in this sense but in because it's special to this 13 2911 threatening to damage the property is still covered under this essentially a lot of this is all the again this is still covered under 132 911 I don't there's a lot of subsections in that law yeah and I think e is as well yeah I was going to I was just about to say that um yeah forceful or unauthorized entry into an occup or occupation of District facilities I think there might you know be a way to have like one section that has subsections of all the things that fall under the statute and then maybe you move on to the other stuff um okay so then so maybe a through e kind of get lumped together and you could figure out how to address them all together if you want to color those blue too I guess okay um okay so F the unlawful uh you possession distribution or sale of tobacco alcohol or drugs obviously that's not just um a state thing but it's also a federal thing and so that's got to stay in there but it's not under that 13291 statute that's can be found in state and federal law but I think the way it's written is pretty basic so um and then those uh I if it's helpful you know um if we want things to be more accessible to people you could consider um providing a glossery or something like that as an exhibit because these things are all defined in the criminal code and so to make it especially for people who aren't familiar with the criminal code like what does possession mean um oftentimes people get possession confused with ownership and that's not true so um you know you can have joint possession you can have constructive possession um and all those things so constructive possession is like um this pen right here like you all have constructive possession of this pen right now because you could walk over here and pick it up if you really wanted to it's you have the ability to exercise Dominion or control over this pen because you're physically right here and you're able to do it and so if this was a bag of methamphetamines you also would have construction constructive possession because you're aware of what it is it's right here and you could exercise Dominion or control over so if you didn't call the police you would then also be in possession of the nean fetamines if it's just sitting here um and so that goes for a car um it goes for a classroom it goes for you know whatever space you're in as long as the person has like knowledge of its existence you can have possession of something if you don't know it exists that's the Wiig caveat but then it's also sometimes that's a sticky situation how do we prove knowledge of of the existence so these are such weird this is what I'm talking about when I say like when you have a kid in a situation where you're like the way this then gets interpreted in like the juvenile adjudication system or the adult criminal system and we're getting down to this like wild stuff that no regular person on the street is thinking about let me think about if I'm constructively possessing this bag before I hang out with you in this car or something you know so those are the kinds of things I'm saying like sometimes a glossery might be helpful here obviously distribution or sale a little more easy to Define but you know could also be helpful as well um for some folks um um or other illegal Contraband so that's an interesting one what do we mean by that um obviously tobacco alcohol drugs makes sense I don't know what that means it's not like it's not like there's a definition of a legal Contraband in a statute anywhere so I think you guys would have to decide what does that mean because that's a place where someone at one school and this is when we're talking about consistency can decide I think this particular item is illegal Contraband and maybe somebody else at another school thinks it isn't right right and then you could have some consistency so that's a I think that little section is a room room for change for more clarity I guess yeah but it's it's I think it's also a catch off with things that are not um known at the time of the implementation of the policy so the best example I could give might be like a vape pen right so that vape pen might not contain alal yeah exactly IED at the store right yeah um all right letter G conduct or speech that violates commonly AC accepted standards of the district that under circumstances has so this is basically obscenity um this is the definition of obscenity all um this is a First Amendment thing and who knows this there's no way to change this because this is just the definition of obscenity and it's Up For Debate but it's the commonly accepted standards of the district so I think that one's really hard to touch I would just leave that alone I doubt we're really cracking down on Free Speech here at Kon School District so most most of the complaints have been about the opposite okay okay feels like a high school thing failure to comply with the lawful directions of District officials are there on Law Enforcement Officers acting in the performance of their duties and failure to identify themselves to such officials officers were moly requested to do so that's pretty much required um it you know you could provide some clarity on what identifying yourself means like because some people do want to know like how much information am I legally required to give somebody to identify myself right um you don't actually need to give someone your social security number or your birth date even you just need to give them your name okay so that could be something where you can provide Clarity otherwise it's pretty well cut and dry there with the law um knowingly committing a violation of District rules and regulations proof that an alleged violator has a reasonable opportunity to become aware of such rules and regulations shall be sufficient proof that the violation was done knowingly um [Laughter] what it's one of those ignorance in the law is not yes oh okay yes um that statuto required let me just look really quick I don't think so but let me double check this might be like a district thing that was about to that like that like saying I didn't know I wasn't supposed to steal that pencil kind of thing yeah or I didn't know that this was a rule here because it wasn't a rule of my last school um yeah I think this one's up for some change engaging in any con uh conduct constituting I mean good luck with this one but yeah sure pretty much is the Su catch yes and then carrying or possessing a weapon this is where I think um that needs to be more specific the term weapon is not actually even a definition we use in the criminal code it's either a deadly weapon or a dangerous instrument there's actually no definition of just a plain old weapon so we should probably clarify that and the the federal laws are talking about deadly weapons any this pen again my favorite thing can be a dangerous instrument um and you could you know if I stabbed you in your neck right now be an aggravated assault right so we would miss you so but I didn't shoot you or actually stab you with a knife so I didn't use a deadly weapon um so anyway we just want to make sure we're clarifying what we need that is a dangerous instrument yes it is a dangerous instrument depending on the use for it right well and even with a knife whether it's a dangerous instrument or a deadly weapon again the knife um has to be designed for lethal use and we get into that a lot and it doesn't even just have to do with the length but there is a big part of it the length of the blade um whether or not it's like a switch blade versus you know a fixed blade is it double-sided is it one-sided I mean I've had these arguments I hire knife experts all the time when I want to argue with the state about this I mean we can go to town um but there are definitions for all these things in the in the statutes that we can clarify so people are absolutely clear for the most part as clear as a statute is sorry I forget that I do something every day that other people probably don't and I know I joke about it at the board meetings but I didn't really just mean to bring up stabbing in the neck you know you know when you're just desensi to things people are like are you okay um all right moving on um in addition to the general rules set it forth above students shall Beed okay this is too much mumbo jumbo back to refusing back to yeah the refusing orders this can all be or changed um the next part um I think goes directly to 15841 but we can word it better in a way that doesn't sound so like or that's more easily uh like consumed I guess is what I'm trying to say uh local shall be notified regarding any specific that is a serious offense involves a deadly weap or dangerous instrument that so this goes to the mandatory reporting statute I don't even know if that's listed on here but there is a mandatory reporting statute that's separate from uh like child abuse or sexual or physical abuse manif reporting this is for schools um they're required to contact local law enforcement for these issues a anything that involves a serious offense or involves a deadly weapon dangerous instrument that could pose a threat of death or Serious injury um these are all things that have very specific definitions serious physical injury has a specific definition that's different than act than regular physical injury um we just talked about dly weapons of dangerous instruments also um a serious offense that's like a very specific list of offenses that's already laid out in the statute so I think there's while it's pretty clear here I think maybe there's some opportunities to provide explanation for what these things mean and then obviously that last part is you know the delegation uh thing uh you know and that's already going on I you know you want to keep policies broad obviously and so I think the type when you're doing policies is trying to figure out how do you how do you find uh wording that um is Broad enough to get the job done but specific enough for people to know what they're reading but also something that can maintain a certain um standard or system beyond the people who are implementing it right now or you know Crea it right now and that's kind of the hard part so and cre and help with that consistency that we talked about earlier yeah all right so now we know what parts of this need to stay and what parts we can actually look at um if we come back up to that first paragraph in addition to compliance with regulations established by the superintendent students are expected to obey all rules and regulations adopted by the governing board and to obey any order given by a member of The Faculty or staff relating to school activities can I ask a question yeah um just in terms of uh my own clarification on how these flow um student discipline and student or student conduct what what's exactly that does one flow into the next is like student conduct the overall and then student discipline is the I'm having trouble like figuring out student conduct is like the overarching policy that's at the beginning of this kind of series of subsections that then there are some that have you know more specific subjects that they're addressing as far as like the nuts and bolts of discipline that's more of a um because we again we don't want to get into the weeds here with what the actual daytoday like this Matrix type thing is not something that goes in policy and so this is kind of lying the scaffolding they're framing they're like building you know the house kind of thing right like so there's all these things that build on each other this is kind of laying like the Baseline for what needs to exist and then you know kind of the more specifics as far as discipline goes are going to be like at the next level yeah taking guidance from these policies right and in JK it kind of outlines the limits of the discipline itself so so in in jic they're saying these are the types of things that could occur that would result in discipline in JK they go immediately into um if this is going to include an out of school suspension or exposion these are the criteria that allow for that level of discipline so and it doesn't necessarily hit all of the levels of discipline it hits more those most extreme levels of discipline and and under what circumstances you cannot so it's sort of more of like the outer edge of it it's not like the range it's just don't do not step past this line and I think JK is where we get to the opportunity one obviously to bring our F policy into the 21st century but also um to expand you know if we have a whole like um subject area of discipline that we think is like a possibility that's a aside from an in or out of school suspension that we want to add to our District's Norms then that's where we would put it and I know we got to pay attention to time so and and and I had a hard sub so I read theing but I just want to leave this thought because I'm guessing we're gonna have to continue some this work next time my concern with this policy as written is that it really isn't talking about student conduct it's talking about what students aren't allowed to do yes and it does not even speak at all to that superintendent um regulations are supposed to even focus on what we're expecting from students like right it's right and I and I'm concerned about that and so one of my questions is like all that ly of ABC like is that even required to be here at all yeah no I'm not and not that we necessarily need to get rid of because I know it's important information but so and then I've got some more is and I think that's where I was going with the idea of wanting to see if we could have like whatever that introductory thing could be of like Norms or things that aren't as like no no no no no don't do this or like we are these people right this is how we behave and treat each other yeah and I think that's why we were hoping to do j i our first because we felt that we could create some of that tone there yeah yeah understandable thanks Alan thank you all um have a great we with that you too we are coming up on the end of the scheduled time um could table this conversation until the 28th at this point we everybody has access to this document everybody can see the conversations that we've had so far you can go back you can elit feedback knowing now how can we combine these blue ones the pink areas are the areas that really these aren't statutory requirements we can talk through what that means and then knowing we can always look at adding additional pieces as long as the policies stay internally consistent can we comment on the document like in the document I shared it with full editing rights so everybody in here has full editing rights to it um Adam I did not share with you but we will get that part figured out so that I can share with you and you have access to it in between also Adam how are you feeling after everybody's just running their mouth all the time you have any questions or thoughts or anything no confused no what do you think about the conversation so far [Music] well Adam it's pretty cool to have you here yeah thank you we appreciate it man I for Adam we had a really good conversation about what these met and like talk this is if your mom did the CRI this is if you did theken down but I for for him and for meide we talk that's well I think one place Adam May really be able to help the committee is when we talk about you know that student conduct and the expectations Brian was referencing you know as an actual student you might have a good sense of what should the expectations for a student be you know and I think that would be really helpful to get your that's a great conversation to have yes is so what I'm thinking is if we're going to table this then next time we can come back we can talk about the highlighted parts that we want to actually tweak and change and then hopefully get into the next set of doing the same thing with that next set so that in between we can we're actually setting ourselves up to have the conversations with everybody outside this room come whatever there okay are you going to Google dock the next ones too what's the next one I will Google doc everything um so what we wanted to do was ji and J next no no I was like which is the next one but then he just said so we're good yeah now we can look at those so you said J would be the next one we all talk about ji and J and J ji and J because ji is the actual policy ji is the actual policy and J is the reg there you go regulation behind the policy so going into those pieces November 2th is oh yeah we yeah yeah I think it would be helpful to like put in comments and things right in the Google Doc that's really really helpful if we're all commenting on one document outside of an open meeting does that break any oh it does I'm realizing yeah so what you would need to do is sorry good good point Brian I should be more on top of things um you probably need to just have your comments ready to go so what I you to the next meting will take away everybody's editing rights does that count for editing too yeah because it's almost I will change it all to a viewer and then you guys can look through it do whatever and then when we come back when we're back in the room I'll reopen it for everybody to edit again that way we don't accidentally break any rules don't we already have the pdf version anyway I guess it doesn't matter just so we do have the pdf version anyways what the Google Doc version is going to give for you is we've been I've been making comments as we're talking as well as highlighting and right kind of working through that part it'd be easier to like make a copy and then put your own little personal edits anyway it's always hard to edit I have to remember not to edit this one tried to highlight a PDF oh my God I spent like way too much time trying to figure that out there you go in all caps what it says do not violate in a uh I changed the title to at the end it has in all caps open meeting document so that I do not accidentally edit the open meeting document and therefore violate open meeting laws after I was the one in the meeting that pointed out we need to make sure we're not doing that um got it so with that our next meeting is November 8 we had already talked about we didn't need to schedule anymore until December 14th in the future so I would like to motion this is really weird and maybe we could ask Jessica at a future date I know this is really out there if there was an ongoing notice of a possible meeting and that document was available to the public and listed on the website for viewing purposes but then we were the only on with adding purposes it's worth asking I think it could potentially comply with open meeting law that's definitely worth asking what are you suggesting I'm suggesting that we give the public viewing access to this document while we all have editing access and then on our website we say that there's a there's like a notification of a continuous meeting in this regard and then people can always view whatever edits have been made on this document or whatever and they can see who's the one commenting and who's all that you can do that well we don't know that's what we're going to I'm saying can you do that yes does it comply with open meeting law I don't know that's why I'm asking him ask the attorney you can stand on one leg too I just can't do it for that yeah I'm just trying to think of ways to make our job easier because I know the more we're able to collaborate and do work outside of this hour and a half the more we're going to accomplish it's a very efficient way to work and so it's just a question of can we find a way to get a compliant and it it could theoretically as you were describing be something as simple as saying the committee will continue its work through colle collaborative document that's available for view by the public between meetings or something like that so at this link on the website yeah so she says yes I'll also ask your for the language for our posting so we make sure whatever language we put in there is compliant okay that would be awesome and only because technology permits look at us in 2023 well just like we didn't it wasn't necessarily a thing where you could stream meetings years ago right yeah exactly and then they had to they had to suddenly change rules because we didn't have anything but streaming meetings certainly all right well thank you everyone again I move that we adjourn the meeting I second all in favor it is unanimous thank you thank you don't stop the meeting
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