2024-01-30 Washtenaw County, MI YouTube / CTN Ann Arbor transcript source: youtube Information Session for Potential Sports Illustrated Confere… · passage 2
a2gov.org you can follow along the proc the review process of this petition or any petition for that matter that's submitted in the city so if you are interested as a member of the community that's a great place to get in information and Milestones about proposed development so thank you for finding that um so rather than any specific questions about the review process I think at this time we're going to have all the speakers come up to the Das and I'm going to flip this fancy uh uh Podium around and then we'll get into Q&A if the speakers could sit to my extreme left and then we'll flip the podium and then the STA to my right will help facilitate uh Q&A where the paper is oh I feel short [Music] that's you know the someone want to direct them hi we you have uh two minutes and staff we'll start it hi I'm Hank Barry live in uh Burns Park and went to high school and college here um so could could you get closer to the mic can't hear um I want to ask a couple questions about your Rel first your relationship with Sports Illustrated the Brand New York Times this week said it's in chaos the nrlb sudum today um and what is you know are you a liened are they an investor are they Equity owner and what you're doing um how's that relationship shake out I'd like to know your relationship with the Eastern band of Cherokee Indians um how much of an investor they are and whether their capital is committed or it's actually in your business and then I'd like to hear about the financial plan for this project who's going to invest who's going to benefit from it and where's the money going to come from thanks an answer there we go all right can you hear me okay great I'll answer that question real quick so Sports Illustrated Resorts is the exclusive you know Resort Hospitality Group for Sports Illustrated lensey exclusive lense e um authentic Brands um Group which is this basically the second largest owner of Ip owns 52 different brands um is also an owner in sports illustrate Resorts um the just kind of to address what's happened over the last two weeks with Sports Illustrated you know quite frankly it was it was way blown out proportion Sports Illustrated is a Big Brand everything from ticketing to Productions to um their betting platform to Resorts to events you know on and on and on the media dep part the media side is one of the aspects of sports illustr and an important one um Sports Illustrated always thrives to be the best in class and quite frankly right now they're going through restructuring to be the Best in Class you know but they don't have an equity ownership in what you're doing they are they are an owner in Sports Illustrated Resorts yes okay yes authentic Brands is authentic Brands the owner of Sports Illustrated the brand yeah major company $30 billion a year in sales owns over 52 different brands so very significant um the Eastern band of Cherokee um is our partner they are also an equity owner um significant Equity owner in Sports Illustrated Resorts um they have committed over $320 million uh to Sports Illustrated resorts to the brand into projects um they are already you know implementing funding into projects as we speak dur in gaming you to for gaming license well I could address that right now we're not looking to do gaming I mean I'm I'm a citizen here we're not looking to do gaming you have a question no okay thank I I have no quibbles with the fact that we might need a Convention Center which I've always thought we needed a Convention Center I have a better location for it and I think it should be the library lot but that's a whole another thing my question is more for the city and what happened to a survey I heard about that this lot was destined to be affordable housing like a three or four story dedicated housing affordable housing plan and I was wondering if you could help me to understand the turnabout to having a branded Convention Center I personally am not familiar with the survey um maybe that's something that happened before I got here but as I said at the at the outset uh I asked in April of last year for permission to look at developing two sites uh this site that we're talking about in the space right next to City Hall I can't speak to um a four-story building on the site yeah I don't know the det details but I and I don't know whether I dreamt it but I was pretty I was pretty certain that something yeah thank you just that was my question okay yes sir uh could you oh there thank you are you all in line to ask questions okay so we have a line formed if you want to ask a question if you'll stand in that line and come on up not not you thank you very much go right ahead sir my name is Stefan Trend I I've lived in this city for also 35 years that lot has a specific love in my heart I taught my daughter how to ride a bicycle also her car and we did not damage anything as everyone is introduced himself I have I have conceptualized cities all over the world du by Royal feed assault in NOA Bulgaria and I come this is my city I love my city I was a professional athlete at one point so I understand where you are and your presentation was wonderful as a master planner with the thousands of people that come in a Convention Center they bring in the money for the restaurants duing cover we had an incredible bad experience in a lot of the businesses went under but not restaurants restaurants are doing well what we need are more conventional people that will come here to live and build our city bring other people to live and bring our city and from that experience the city will grow I think it's more appropriate intellectually if you are in N Arbor in the outskirt then Seline and other community would take a better advant advantage of it and still have a non Arbor brand economically it would make more sense for the city and you to be in that environment we have maybe seven to 10 Parcels of land that are in a core they vital to us the university is constantly ripping into a tax structure taking some of it out and I'm mean I'm in favor of you coming to an arbor but you have a better alternative on the outskirt not in the core of the downtown thank you sir very much thank you next Mr Dy and guests my name is Don duat I'm a resident of downtown I'm a member of the downtown area citizens advisory Council I just have one question it's about the ownership of the property I don't understand that can somebody tell me if we're giving up a free simple I understand there's going to be a lease how long will that be have those decisions been made uh what Equity interest will our city retain in this property once it is uh um what it's like life is over or going into the future yes sir no decision uh has been made on any uh deal structure what has been discussed is a leasing of the land that would bring Revenue to the city and then tax revenue would be generated off the site and that would come to the city in a certain formula no decisions have been made because nothing has been presented to the city council for them to act on we are still in the talking stages uh of it that's where we are yes sir would you come up hello my name is nikil Patel thank you guys for the time um first just a few General comments I do think an investment like this is important in the city of Detroit as a lot of people know the governor has an initiative around figuring out what it requires to bring young people to both keep them in the state and attract them back I think it's important that we have uses of our plots of land that are centrally located within the city to attract more younger Talent over time the Ripple effects are higher the economic development Ripple effects are higher having a location like this in the outskirts of town simply just doesn't drive the kind of energy and attraction and you see that in multiple cities across the United States you're seeing that contribute to the revitalization in Detroit as well so I think having something there in whatever form over time that it evolves into is important I also think driving projects that increase Revenue generation that can then be later on used for uh more feasible more sensible affordable housing is a better pathway than activating land for affordable housing where may not generate as much revenue so again the Ripple effects um I think are positive for a project like this two questions for you and I know we're early on in this uh process so you may not have the answer but a question was asked and what is the thought around the financing what is the potential debt implications or tax implications for this project and two as I mentioned with Detroit they are also building up their hotels and Conference space as you did your analysis how much of that factored in where there's going to be demand for events in in Arbor or in Detroit how will that affect activity in a facility like this thank you um I'll speak just to the um financing structure at a high level I'm not a finance expert but I slept at a holiday in last night I um but have been involved in a a lot of P3 structures that are quite similar to this the financing structure that's been conceived and again nothing has been agreed to but in order to model a uh the the potential of a facility you have to decide like if you were going to buy a house you'd have to say well let's look at what where the sources of money are how much am I going to put down and so the modeling that's been done today I think may have led people to believe that there's been decisions there haven't but the modeling's been done is based upon what other cities across the country utilize when they are attempting to build a conference space that is large enough so that it produces more hotel rooms than the hotel that's associated with it does that make sense you're going to build a space that impacts positively a number of other lodging facilities restaurants and other things we're not going to have enough tables to feed everybody that were to come to a conference and so on and so forth so because of the benefits to that to the economic and social jobs creation and other benefits of a structure of that sort facilities like this are quite frequently built using a nonprofit Development Corporation that is a company that is a a nonprofit entity that exists for the purpose of developing uh infrastructure that serves a public good it must meet that criteria this facility is not you can't just go say please give me the money you have to pass through all kinds of studies that show and illustrate third-party independent studies that illustrate that the great the good is greater than the venue itself and in a structure like that the nonprofit Development Corporation is responsible for paying the debt and there is a non-recourse relationship with the municipality that that is to say that the municipality is not responsible for the debt in a structure like that you frequently need to leave the ownership of the land and the dirt with the um with the municipality and so you enter into a lease agreement rather than than taking that uh from the city at the time of the of the launch and so this structure if you were to research how Conference Centers convention centers meeting spaces um even uh Youth and amateur complexes you know venues are built this is very common and so in the modeling process we utilize that structure we uh met with attorneys we looked at everything that might so that we could say is this conceivable can we do what other cities do to finance something like this and re eliminate or nearly reduce the risk to the city okay so that's what's been conceived so far that's what the modeling has been based on as we say no decisions have been made but that concept is not new it's not fresh it's not even considered Innovative anymore even though the people that do it are very Innovative it it is um it is just tried and true and so that's how the modeling has been done today I hope that answers the question you one other thing that you said too which was appropriate is that you know someone else mentioned before you put this somewhere else outside of an arbor that's already there I mean there's a big Conference Center in IPS Salan that has the bigger space and they go there and they're not coming downtown an arbor you know we need to bring that those dollars here it's the greatest dollars Michigan have millions ofage that could be rented sir people come in here to go to restaurant the restaurants are doing well other people are going under consider that a factor when you you can capitalize and have what you want there's plenty of land around it in a court can't be done we need housing we need people that live here to spend buy shop buy things that live here bring other people that also live here and employ other people I could speak to the city portion of the question that was asked I'm sorry apologize well I just just one quick let me finish sorry um the city has been in discussions with the Sports Illustrated team for the purpose of seeing if a term sheet could be developed we have not completed those discussions therefore we have not had anything to take to the city council we paused discussion in order to have a meeting some meetings and conversations like this but in order for sir please sir pleas it shove it on us not done that way it's not done that way sir if we could if we could have if we could have order it's not this is not the kind of City we are I'm going to leave before I say something stupid so it's at some point we would take something to city council to act upon we haven't done that yet good evening go ahead please hi my name is Kathy Griswald I am a former council member I am also on the Board of Governors of the Michigan League the Michigan League really functions as a small Conference Center it even has hotel rooms on the top uh we heard from destination an arbor that we need a conference center and obviously one bigger than just the leak however the University of Michigan has a very professional uh plan for a conference center on North Campus and they look like they're moving forward they're not at the RFP process yet they're at the RFQ process so in your planning for a conference center are you taking into account the conference center that the University of Michigan is planning interested yeah I I think destination in Arbor may be a better voice but I would just say that the 8,100 whatever it was rfps or requests for proposals or request for space right these are groups that are seeking space um would more than uh produce the demand necessary to fill both spaces so we're we're saying two large cent without the university here and and this is preliminary as you mentioned so to know the true use of that space and what the University's intentions are I don't think anyone on this panel can speak to that um we did talk to CSL uh the group that commissioned the study and asked them that very question um while they had the same con uh same response that I just gave you um they felt that the market here was strong enough to support both sizes of facilities people do want to be here okay thank you for that answer I uh I think that this Council when I was there and currently is still based on wishful thinking thank you thank you next Mr hayner hi how you doing Mr Roney uh my name is Jeff hayner former city council person also uh just real quick I I've known Chris for what almost 30 years now and yeah almost right and so he's you know he's a big thinker guy and so these are Big ideas that are coming before us here um a couple things so when I was on Council a couple things happened one was at some point and many points frankly over the years but one when I was on Council we received a study that talked about Conference Centers and hotels and these types of things and if you really dug down in there and read what it said uh the vast majority of the comparable um uh properties that were listed were operating in the red and and even some of them were even operating the red with huge amounts of uh Municipal support behind them and so these things aren't real big Winners and most public private Partnerships I think it's common knowledge that the the the public takes the risk and the private makes the profit and that's just how What P3 means to people and that's kind of what it means to me okay that's that's one thing now the another thing we did on Council was we asked Jen Hall who's in charge of the anr Housing Commission to evaluate 11 City owned properties for their potential and the quality of creating social housing in our community which we all agreed is much needed and this is one of those properties and it's scored well above the fold of those 11 um why it is not being and I didn't want to yell out earlier but my question would have been where how many affordable units are in your building well it's zero like everything else we seem to build here in the city okay so that came forward and it ranked this as a good property for social housing I guess my last thing is not really a question but a comment that a lot of people have said to me because they think I still know what's going on why would the city be partnering with an organization that is restructuring right now and perhaps is best known for exploiting women in a swimsuit issue is that the brand of an arbor is that our brand I think it's terrible yes sir please come [Applause] up hello uh I'm Drew Patterson I'm a resident of an arbor uh Michigan grad and uh could you get a little closer to the mic yeah my voice is a little little weak um I have in the course of my career represented a number of developers at autom of suppliers that have sought public financing and various forms of it um and I have learned that the devil is in the detail uh so I have a question um there was a November uh last year draft term sheet that became public sometime in early January and uh I wrote a letter to the city council over my concerns that were raised in that term sheet and so my question is has there been a change in that term sheet uh and what was the city's participation in developing that term sheet I'm not exactly sure what you saw but there have been various iterations of a term sheet and so the term sheet has evolved through two or three different uh writings uh we have been uh on hold so to speak for a couple of months on negotiating to finish the term sheet uh one for the holidays and two so that we could do the meeting first so I'm not sure what version we're on now and I don't know how it compares to what you looked at we have been in discussions uh from the very beginning of the very first iteration of the term sheet and it's a ball from there well because the devil is in the detail I would appreciate if the latest versions of the term sheet could be made publicly available we we we are planning to do that it does seem to me that this meeting is perhaps premature the cart before the horse I I because it really is important what the details are the term sheet that was published in early January had a November date on it and it had the city taking the entire risk of this project and I City's tiffa financing and that's the state ultimately but um I'm I'm skeptical of of those financing issues and and I I think I have experience that dictates that uh the most recent one is a wonderful Little Caesar Arena that took $35.5 million from the operating budget of the Detroit public schools the poorest School District in America and they reimbursed in the in the S1 it said reimbursing the developers two billionaires 35 A5 million out of the poorest School District in America yes sir Mr haer you're next hello I'm Alan Haber I went through a process like this with the Valiant Conference Center in 2009 responsive to a request for proposals for the city and the city was very excited about it they got a very good presentation not unlike some of what I heard until somebody who was actually some other kind of pro about hotel calculation and Conference Center actual practice said this was Hotel was overrated the conference center was not going to be viable and the city was going to be left holding the bag and yet I hear the similar kinds of things everything is going to be taken care of but that's a good a the economics is this proposal is important but it shouldn't be where it is and I'm really disappointed that when this property that has been part of the conversation in the city for a long time is before you were here but you know it's been on the docket for affordable housing for worker housing and when somebody comes in off the street more or less with a good idea that does have a big Revenue multi-million dollars it would be proper to say okay we are now considering this property let's look for request for proposals to see what we can get on the housing tront this this should be for affordable housing and you're not asking for what is possible on affordable housing we heard in the the uh Downtown Development of the DDA heard from all the developers you cannot have affordable housing on private land the economics do not support it if you have public land then you can build affordable housing for the workers who work downtown but private land you can't do it why are you people not buying the private land okay thank you come on up Sir hello uh my name's Antonio um I I am a architect uh downtown um um I have a home um about half mile from from I guess this property um I think that there's a couple questions about um just about um just the form of the building I've I'm I'm impressed that no one's talked about the form um this bu um I think the an arbor has over the years been given some really unflattering tall buildings and and and you can you can just I take my look around and I think um I mean I mean the I guess just what would ask about um just the tower um what that was planned I think that it uses a lot of uh some of the I mean it does it parts of it look like a lot like I mean Tower Plaza and also like the City Center building I think both things that I don't think really uh kind of just don't look what the I guess like a new in Arbor I mean would be and um it also so I would think that um just it's uh the square footages um um aren't um you could probably build more um kind of I guess more housing within that so that's all I get thank you yes [Applause] sir hi I'm Doug akenhead an arbor resident thank you for your presentations very informative and aror the appeal is it's authentic ticity it's evolved over almost 200 years to what it is today and it's this authenticity that makes an arbor appealing to you too and yet you're proposing to put in a huge massive synthetic environment it just doesn't fit can't you design something that would be more compatible with the an arbor that exists now instead of this totally inappropriate synthetic thing when I go away to a conference or other event in one of those synthetic spaces I come home and breathe a sigh of relief it's such a comfort to be back into a town that is human scaled comfortable and not synthetic okay some questions wouldn't this project fit better more comfortably on a more spacious site maybe toward the edge of Van Arbor with enough space for comfortable massing all of all the things that you're proposing to do and more usable outdoor space for some of those activities I think it would question for the city of an arbor how many more cars and trucks gas burning and diesel burning will this endeavor bring into our downtown and how does that fit with our a20 goals and third won't this development with this restaurants hotels and variety of services generate hundreds maybe even thousands of low to Middle income jobs for people who won't be able to afford to live in an arbor we need to stop kicking the affordable housing can down the road and make opportunities for people who work here to live here this has been a priority for as long as I've lived in N Arbor and so little is happening we've got to address those needs rather than a synthetic Conference Center thank you thank you yes sir hello my name is Ken nisbit I'm retired from the University I've been involved in a lot of things around town with economic development was one of the founders of an spark worked with tech transfer and Business Development so I'm well aware of some of the activities over the last 10 to 20 years I actually do agree that there probably could be could be a need for a Convention Center I feel like I have two main problems with what I'm hearing number one is I feel like like there really should be two an RFP for one I from what I've heard I'm actually disturbed by the fact that there wasn't more insight into other options before just having this one proposal it might be a great proposal but I feel like I don't know what the other options are I feel like there really should be two requests for proposals or requests for considerations one should be with that site is that the best use for that site I'm not convinced number two is what's the best possible Convention Center option proposal we could get somewhere in town yours might be it but put the two together I just feel like it's pushed it's rushed and it just doesn't seem like it's well thought out I wish we might even think about in uh partnering with the university I'm not sure I'm not familiar with exactly what's going on but partnering in having perhaps a joint proposal for a convention summer somewhere would be terrific so I guess my question it's not necessarily your responsibility I understand the council but have we consider changing the process where we might look at both of those options there at the point we are now the majority of council has given direction for us to continue the process we still as I indicated haven't taken them any kind of a structure uh what you're suggesting might be something that Council takes action on but that has not occurred yet and your your reference to are we in any discussions with the University of Michigan about their plans uh only in general terms we're we're not in any kind of intimate discussions with what their plans are might be a good idea though don't you think might be let me help you thank right yes sir hello I'm Tom stalberg and I'm celebrating our City's Bicentennial this year I'm also a big sports fan former subscriber to SI magazine uh and an athlete and Coach here at U ofm in the past suppose I was a private landholder and Si Resorts approached me before tying up my very valuable asset making it unavailable to any other prospective purchaser I would want to scrutinize the likelihood of this first Suitor success you will secure an option for me if I think you have a good chance of succeeding I will track check out your track record I will ask to see your homework with regard to the market demand and potential competition I would check out your Prof fora to see if the pro projections are reasonable I would verify your ability to finance this project you have no actual development track record strike one the University of Michigan is in a parallel process for a similar product a Conference Center Hotel and restaurant the M brand is one of the top sports brand in the country the U ofm has the land and the track record for successful development and the U ofm doesn't have to go through the city approval process it looks like the U ofm will get theirs built in the near future that's tough competition and the SI team hasn't address this sufficiently that strike too I would want to see your numbers some of us have preliminary run numbers some hypothetical ones and we don't say how this would succeed foul ball on two strikes you're still at bat the SI team wants to finance this with bonds issued from a nonprofit but this is clearly a for-profit Endeavor you want over 100% financing no recourse or any skin in the game for the development team no recourse for the landholder which sounds good for the landholder except there are risks that haven't been addressed and with no recourse who is going to buy these bonds and possibly be the one holding the bag if the project fails I do not see the finance financing sufficiently secured to tie up my very valuable land strike three you are out so I I I want to I want to make a comment on that because I I have to I like the analogy but I also like don't like bad officiating number one we have gone to the the gold standards of feasibility studies we have done feasibility studies you know with groups like hvs they're what did all the feasibility studies for hotel projects Etc they have more than validated what we're doing destination and Arbor has done studies that more than validated both facilities as we discussed you know we talk about revenues coming into this town you know the greatest revenues in the world are people that come here and visit and leave their money here because it means that we as taxpayers don't have to pay for a lot of things that they're bringing in bringing millions of dollars in we have more than validated and the fact that we haven't done development yes we have groups and our whole entire team has done over billions of dollars worth of development and funding so I'm not sure where you got your information but this has all been done that's why we're here today it's why we've done all the studies we've done all the floor plans and all the different designs that's why we're here today to talk about that because we're not going to spend the money you say we don't have skin in the game we have a lot of skin in the games at this point in fact spending Millions just to get to this point you know with the hope you know again as a citizen you know I love all this but the fact is we're bringing a lot of money into this town by doing this and the Studies have shown we need it so that's the facts yes sir hello thank you um my name is Steve Palms I'm a resident of the city I also have two degrees from the University undergrad degree and a law degree and I am a commercial real estate lawyer who's done a lot of ground lease deals with uh both private and public entities and so I'm very familiar with the you know public private Partnerships and and those arrangements and what I would ask here is just simple uh transparency you know I'm told this is a ground lease is this a subordinated ground lease or is this a non-s subordinated ground lease what's the rent that's going to be paid is that based on the land value or or is that part of the you know contribution that you're actually looking for from the city where you're getting a beneficial rent rate on the land and and is the city risking the loss of the land is there there's certainly going to be a lender here that comes in and looking for the Best Collateral they have again is this a non-s subordinated ground lease or is it going to be subordinated to the lender what's the credit situation I also understand that there are public bonds being issued um and so again the public has a huge role in the financing of this project and again all I would ask for is a is transparency over it because in effect what you're doing with with the the the public role is um they're in effect your partner um be because they're they're they've got a lot of skin in the game and I think there ought to be complete full transparency about what that skin is who's taking the risk and most often you look for a developer to put in the you know the equity portion and not the you know not not the municipality uh or the you know the governmental entity and yes if if you're asking for that just be fully transparent so we know where the money's coming from who has skin in the game who's is it and what what is the return so again I'm just asking for transparency here so that everybody knows what what what's happening in in the overall picture thank you and and before you start I I just want to say we're going to be completely transparent about the financial aspects of the transaction completely transparent yes ma'am go ahead hi my name is Diana Ry I had a law practice in downtown an arbert for 45 years um I have similar concerns about what happens if this project fails um are we going to be left with a big hulking Behemoth of a vacant uh structure in downtown um take a look at Dayton Ohio or some of the other places where they have struggling convention centers and it's it's not a an asset to a city's core um my question is for the city of Ann Arbor and destination an arbor um Sports Illustrated besides being known right now for being in disarray and possibly not being able to publish anymore and and being the target of um some labor actions uh is also mostly known for swimsuit issue um if you've looked at the website for the uh Sports Illustrated Resorts it's a a a succession of semi-clad women in bikinis frolicking and waterfalls uh and that really seems to be mainly what Sports Illustrated is selling these days and so my question for the city and for Destination an arbor is are you comfortable partnering with an entity whose Public Image and all of its marketing is centered around that sort of presentation uh especially if that's what we're trying to present Ann Arbor is uh in inviting the rest of the country to come and visit us here as I mentioned at the beginning of the uh presentation that we did today our purpose here today is just to inform that we need conference base it is not to support any specific project that's been proposed in either way so so in that regard we do not have comment about that it is strictly the fact that we do need meeting space in this area I just rebut one thing real quickly you know again I appreciate your your opinions you know Sports illustrat has been around for 70 years swimsuit edition is not and you know we have a lot more people that follow the sports part of it than the other part of it and you know that's what we've been known for take take a look at the website though that's what they lead with that's that's what they that's that's what what brings in the the eyeballs with regards to the city's position the city's taken no position on anything going forward there's been no decision made we're simply relaying that someone has approached us they want to have discussions we've been having discussions we nothing's been settled yet thank you sir thank you Mr Deone uh my name is Ken Garber uh I want to thank the presenters for coming out and um facing the public it's not easy to do but on the other hand it's not easy for the public to get up here and um you know speak in front of such a large crowd so I I want to thank everyone who's come out and I really appreciate everyone's comments um no one's spoken about the sustainability elements I want to do that um all electric and Net Zero sound great but these terms can be used to greenwash a high emissions building so my questions would be these uh will you be using geothermal or air source heat pumps will it be a vrf system or a px system uh often used by hotels which is extremely inefficient and is basically self-defeating form of electric um so uh what else uh and Erv energy recovery ventilation system um uh Net Zero implies that you will be generating energy on site will that be solar how much where will it be uh will there be battery storage on site um you know Carbon offsets are not a solution if that's part of the Net Zero equation that's unacceptable um lead gold have you scored out the lead Gold Elements lead Gold by itself says nothing really about um the carbon emissions of a building um you know I anticipate that your answer to this will be well it's too early to work out all you know these problems these are uh these are engineering solutions that will come in after site plan approval once we put out the bids Etc well if you want us to take this building seriously I think you need to answer these up front the fact that you're going with gas for your restaurant seems to me indicates to me you haven't read the 820 plan which explicitly ruls that out um so then it makes me extremely skeptical that this will be a true Nal building by the pl [Music] definition do I respond to that yeah so just wanted to clarify our intent is not for it to be a net zero building um our our firm's commitment to sign the AIA 2030 pledge is to be responsible and material sourcing to contribute to an actionable plan to support a um to support net zero emissions by 2030 so as part of our commitments to be responsible specifiers that is our goal for this projects I want to clarify that this project currently is not um we're not committing to Net Zero yet and you're correct we we don't we're so early in the process we don't have our our experts and our Engineers on board but we are committing to a high performance building um with sustainable and make it to achieve the lead gold scorecard that we have that we have written out what was the other question third one it was specific to different okay things that yes ma'am hi my name is Julie Ritter I've lived in an arbor a long time thank you for this hearing uh I have so many questions but two minutes gee my two most important questions are number one why was there no RFP you were approached by a friend to look at this project why didn't why didn't somebody go gee this is time for an RFP this could be one project but maybe there's other ones we want to look at too at the same time for this site why was there no RFP and Brett you said that this project you said that this project would follow all the processes that any other project would follow but it has not done that yet this has gone under the radar it was sprung on a SW generis right in the middle of downtown complete no transparency no public involvement you've gone way down the track on this and there's nobody else that's looking at other Alternatives and that is that's all I have to say I'd like to know why there is no RFP in response uh to your question um I go back to the comments I made at the opening of the meeting I was very transparent with city council and asking I I was very transparent in asking if we could look at development of the Klein lot I did have permission to do what I've done we've not made any decisions uh city council has not been asked to vote on anything what we've done thus far is have conversation city council can always decide to go to an RFP uh we haven't been given that direction yet this this meeting this meeting tonight was designed to give information and to answer questions and to take input from the public that's that's what we're doing um we're it all ends up I can't tell you but um everything every aspect of the project should there be a viable project will be completely transparent it can't be even voted on if it's not transparent so that would be the direction that we would go yes ma'am hi I'm uh Karen Hart I'm the former planning director and I've lived in in Arbor for 32 years not counting grad school um and um I'm kind of appalled that you had no idea that affordable housing was the highest use that the city had flagged in the recent past for the client slot um but I guess you know it now um I I I'll I'll Reserve any comments I have about the design of the building or the site um mechanics or why isn't the parking underground uh for um you know the survey I think more fundamentally tonight it's very concerning to me about uh about this site is it appropriate for the use you want to do I agree we need a conference center we've needed it for decades um the brown Block's just down the street that's where it should go it's much bigger site and um Bill Martin's a big U ofm fan I'm sure he likes Sports since he was on the Olympic Committee uh he probably wants a lot of money for it too um but that's where it should go it's on a Main Street uh that it will be easy to find this street the the streets William and Ashley are like now completely uh blocked by two-way bike paths um the nobody who works in this facility will be able to live in an arbor so great creating jobs but we we don't have a a Conference Center crisis we we need a conference center we have a housing crisis for people and that's what the site is supposed to address it needs to be high density affordable maybe mixed use you know mixed market uh housing and the sooner we do it the sooner my daughter will be able to stay in town the sooner I can downsize and live in some place that um I don't need uh anymore and I just I I'm just dismayed that you're this far down the line and you have not you need to find a different site I I'm not a big sports fan I don't care about that stuff but um uh I do think a conference center is great and if this one flies wonderful but there's nothing in it that I would ever go to except maybe the restaurant so uh put it on a different site and build housing on the Klein lot as soon as we can yes sir thank you my name is John Godfrey I'm a resident of Van Arbor I've got a a question about transparency and that I think it's this is it's it's a very important issue it's been raised several times um uh Mr Danone uh you mentioned in an email that in that or in comments actually to council that staff have been working on this for intensively uh when You' met with Council and talk about it in mid in sometime in the fall I think October November meeting um so clearly that there's been a lot of work an exceptional amount of work that's gone into this project long before it came to the Public's attention and it first came to the Public's attention because of a press release from Sports Illustrated itself nothing the city released but I have a very specific question did you help organize a meeting or two meetings between the developers and members of City Council in the fall in two sections in order that these could be held privately and not be subject to the open meetings act in the state of Michigan there were OB answer your question I'm I'm here listening okay I organized uh two informational sessions uh have I organized any meetings to circumvent Oma no I have not done that I said when we were first approached and so let me give context to what's happened we were approached about the idea of a potential hotel in the downtown area I organized a meeting of maybe 25 or so individuals from Beyond just city of an arbor to allow Sports Illustrated to present their idea prior to to ever hearing anything from Sports Illustrated I had already been in discussions with destination an arbor about needs in the community I learned about the need for a conference center from them when I first engaged with Sports Illustrated they were only talking about a hotel initially and I asked them about the possibility of the conference center going inside of the hotel uh I have been completely above board in everything that I've done from the very beginning I'm not trying to hide anything from anyone uh I appreciate that so I can take it then you're saying that you did not schedule these separate meetings with halves of the council in order to avoid the requirements of the open meetings that's correct thank you okay yes ma'am my name is Mara Poland BG Ramsey I've lived in Ann Arbor for at least 24 years probably more I was a graduate student here taught here lots my questions are the Aesthetics of the building are totally out of scale with the surrounding historic buildings the nature of Ann Arbor we don't need another brand we have a brand we're really proud of the historic sense that we have that the building has no relation to the buildings that stand so that's one point the other is your relationship with the uh Cherokee tribe gambling is this going to be a gambling Mecca we have no plans nor will bring gaming at all that is not our plan you know I and I have to respond to one thing because I'm a citizen here the building directly behind us in the historic district was built in the 80s I think you know there's no set standard of what every building looks like in fact they all look very different which is nice there's a certain height that the downtown has it's human scale the building that you're proposing does not fit into that criteria so that's my comment thank you thank you thank you yes sir hi my name is Ralph mcke I have lived here for 50 years I'm sorry to I'm happy to say but sorry to say on another level and I have two degrees here including a law degree I I have a couple of questions about what you've said about the taxes that would be paid and the the amount of money that the city itself would gain it's there's a $930,000 a year ground lease and in the term sheet I read and you you're saying you've said that there's $240 million in taxes over a 6year release that's 4 million a lease or 4 million a year uh if you run 50 Mills I guess you could get that if you have the right tcv and it ends up being 4 million a year but the city itself only gets 16 Ms which is about a third of that so the real number if you being fully uh I don't want to use the word transparent you've been correct you would you would get somewhere in the neighborhood of 70 million a year so I just think that ought to be laid out that's the real terms yes the schools would get money the county would get money Etc but it's not the city the second I item I think that goes to that is that you're also planning and really trying hard if I read the emails right to get tiffs tiffs would mean that that money would be way way less because you wouldn't be paying any property taxes and so what I'd like to do is to just make sure that in future uh uh Communications and public statements where you're saying that there's con misconceptions being provided by critics that you get your own fact straight thank you I just I just want to speak because I think you have the right to know that the numbers that we're representing are based upon analysis and study that we haven't had time this evening uh to present but as we've said and I I think it's important there seems to be some misconception that the city has gotten on board here what has occurred is that we did a tremendous amount of work collaboratively to come up to model what you're seeing here including the design but that modeling does not suggest that um that it's been voted on or the decisions have been made and to your point you absolutely deserve to see all of the detail and all all of the analysis if we go further than this preliminary modeling the purpose of this as and this was not not our directive but uh the city's directive to us the administrator was okay we've done enough modeling we've done enough like batting this around it's now time to bring this out and let people engage in the conversation and if we were to go forward from here then the next step would be to reveal in great detail to present to give you the opportunity to kick around and dig at and disagree with uh the analysis of the third party and the other professionals that are involved in this so I I just want to give you I agree with what you've said if you if you were to believe that a decision could be made based upon what you've been shared today that that would be none of no one's saying that all that has occurred is that some modeling some design and some work has been done on a structure that responds to the demand studies that your own city has done that's all that's been done from here there is another layer and there are multiple levels of additional engagement so I just want to acknowledge that what you've said would be accurate if we were at the point of a decision but at this point it's been the modeling it's just been a modeling exercise so I just think that's important for you to hear well this lady's been waiting thank you these are basic numbers we're talking about a third of the of the taxes that you're you're putting out 240 million and the real number is 72 million or somewhere in that range regardless of how you play it out later the the numbers would be dramatically less if you were using tiffs those are not things that you have to get a final decision and I wasn't putting it on on Mr dhini or the city these are your public statements not the cities at least as far as I understand it and and all I'm saying is that those are basic enough that they should have been put out there to begin with with because you're really running a PR campaign and I'm not I'm not disagreeing that you should do that you you came here to make a presentation and you make you guys are good salesmen I'll say that but but the those facts they're basic yes ma'am my name is OD Lono Heber and I have lived in the city for about 30 years um I have several concern first of all I would like the city to open the rfps project proposal right now it's not too late if they going to consider this project they should be transparent and open other project like lwi income housing or other things for this lot and the second thing that I have to say that your project looking at it is way out of scale for an we like our little town and it's so many big building have come out recently and a lot of people feel overwhelmed by this out of scale we want to remain a Humane City in term of scale and I have a concern about water are you going to build a new water treatment system to manage the added waste and can the city manage a SA drought and still Supply every one water if we have a high rise in temperature in the summer and the second the other concern I have is I don't know if you've been in an arour on Friday night but you can get out of town it takes you two hours our city street are small and they cannot really take on this added car traffic that's going on everywhere and that's just getting out of the of proportion so we have to think about that add traffic that this is going to bring to our downtown and then is your your Center going to be a turmo or a solar center because we have a sustainability issue there thank you so the one question you asked about will there be enough water for people in an arbor yes this this project would have no impact on our ability to deliver water uh also infrastructure for dealing with sewers yes sir uh good evening my name is Ed chaffron I've been in developing in this community for 42 years I I've never I've been in this town I've never heard of you I've never seen you I've never seen to develop anything in the community not that you have to I uh I was a guy that kicked the uh took care of the adult bookstore when was in town I was the one that reintroduced law living in the downtown I have renovated over two dozen historic buildings in the downtown and own every one of them I can't tell you I'm not going to hear criticize your development because being a developer that would be that would be wrong for me but what I can tell you is I've learned this community and you talk a great story about all these people coming into the town I don't think that's what these people want I don't think Ann Arbor want thousand people coming into our town that may be your wish but I don't think that's the wish of these citizens question for you Mr Tony the vote on this is it an 83 vote is it is it an eight super majority vote to approve a project like this to sell and Lease city land yes so in other words four Council people could kill the deal is that correct that is correct thank you yes sir hi my name is Michael Watts I am a College Dropout but I make funny things on the internet so thanks for coming I know it's not easy to sit and give a creative presentation I have to get feedback on them all day I think uh as with that I'm not going to criticize your development I mean um I would recommend uh though showing it from the other side because that is where everybody sees the structure and it's readily evident that you are purposefully not showing it from Main Street The Heart of the City and just showing the backside of it um and I think that would go a long way in helping you know help PE people uh get a sense of the understanding um you also mentioned that the site is a Brownfield which the county has no record of uh apparently neither does the city um could you please tell us how bad the pollution is and from what building it came from and to add on to that if you're going to be developing as a brandfield Brownfield or transformational Brownfield project will you be uh recapturing the income tax from anybody who works and lives on site thank [Applause] you so as far as the brown for what we've been told by the the groups that we've hired that because of the previous older buildings that were there you know that statistically that they would have some kind of Brownfield remediation from leads from all kinds of stuff it's just a fact when you've had there was a big building there for for years decades and when you have those kind of things you you statistically have you know Brownfield issues um they have said you will Almost 100% have issues with the site which will need to be remediated which you know we're prepared to do you know I think something that's interesting too and I appreciate everybody being here tonight and we really do appreciate your your input I think that's one of the most important things about why the city brought us here tonight this isn't a done deal you know it's it's really to talk to you and get your opinions and we appreciate those you know I think is it a fact that we will bring in a lot of Reven to the city yes I mean that's not you know it's a fact we looked at the studies we know it's something is this the right site you've made some good you know good opinions here um one of the reasons we're doing this you know on a public site is you know it's kind of the butt for because these are Big projects you know that's why P3 programs are put in place across the country because you can't come and just buy like some said buy a really expensive piece of property and build 70,000 sare feet of convention space you can't do that you have to have a public private you know partnership because it does bring those kind of benefits to the city that's not an argument it's just the facts it's what the studies show us what other cities have so again we appreciate your you know your input really do you know and we are hopeful we can do something here in an arbor and that's what that was our goal tonight to get your input so thank you there was a question that came in um via Zoom asking about does there need to be a zoning change the answer is no there does not yes sir please good evening my name is claudus Vincent my only claim to fame is that I am a long-term taxpayer in an arbor so I'm concerned about how you spent uh my money or many other people's money and so you did a very nice job with your presentation however you didn't talk about expenses or money you talked about P3 you talked about public private uh partnership boy did my alarm Bells go off and then on the other side you said oh this is the very beginning the nothing has been voted on when city council votes on this it's way too too late all docks have been lined up by then the decisions are being taken right now and so and decisions and I'm afraid that this lack of financial disclosure from you guys perhaps you're a good salesman it's your right to do so but the city has no right to do so and so therefore I'm afraid the city is making under the table promises that we don't know anything about but when it will only come to light when the city votes on this and it's way too too late so the only action for you is to stop this project right now to write an RFP and bring it out to the public and see what other projects uh stop it now please sir I I appreciate that you expressed your feelings uh I do need to say there has been nothing that's taken place under the table there's no one one taking money there's nobody offering money nothing like that is going onti exclusively why sir I had permission to have discussions with them there wasn't there wasn't something that was hidden we've got um we good no callers okay yes ma'am please well I hadn't heard about this project I was concerned about it so I did a little looking on the internet and I have found that other cities you've been in touch with have kicked you out and I have also found that some of you have been fired from working as as uh employees of cities for doing things like trying to bring a for-profit conference center to the city I also have found out that one of you has been found guilty of um a sexual assault and so I think that you should make who you are totally clear to us and present your backgrounds not in one minute to say I am the director of blah blah blah but to really know who you are and what you stand for you know I I have to I have to make comment to I'm sorry we have not been kicked out of any in fact we have cities chasing us down I wish we could do the s in Arbor because it's my backyard and you should need to be real careful about saying things like sexual because you know those are things that you shouldn't bring up or say things because I don't know where that's validated again none of us been kicked out of any City in fact just the opposite so let make sure we get our facts straight and I I guess I need to to comment since there was a reference made about cities so I'm I'm coming upon nearly 40 years in the profession I've never been fired I've never had an allegation leveled against me about any criminal activity there was a point in my career where I was director of Public Safety he carry the rank of Colonel was sworn had a badge and a gun I've had a top level clearance from the FBI I'm not a criminal there's nothing untour about my background I've never been fired from any kind of job and it's unfortunate I needed to say that but I can't let that kind of thing floa in the air and have people wondering yes sir please you will be our last questioner we're at 910 make it quick thank you sir my name is Bill caer I'm a business owner on Main Street yes sir um right behind the the Klein lot there's been a lot said about U affordable housing on the lot there's a lot been said about everything I agree and uh have benefited from the plumbers and pipe fitters coming in I agree that convention is important for the city I do I do want to to to make it very clear however and this is a selfish thing I realize that that lot is going to be developed I realize that it is no longer going to be simply a a parking facility however the city needs to take into consideration that that is the entrance for the businesses that thrive on Main Street the first question that everyone coming into any business in downtown an aror asks is where do we park the second question is or statement is we don't come downtown that often because there's no place to park so I'm assuming this is not a done deal but I'm saying that when you go forward and you look at other types of projects for that particular lot and that particular lot only that you take in consideration the existing businesses and what we contribute to the city and take into consideration our needs and our needs are to have an entrance not completely blocked to prohibit people from coming into the main street of downtown an Harbor so I hope that on future proposals and I'm assuming you're going to get some more proposals I hope on future comp proposals that it's not totally blocked and that there's some consider ation made for incorporating existing businesses that that are already contributing to the city thank you thank you for those people that watch after tonight uh there will this will be placed on the YouTube channel of the city uh you'll have the opportunity there's some seats on the table if you haven't gotten one uh for questions after the fact if to provide question or more feedback there is a QR code uh responses or feedback is due into the City by February the 4th and I would like to thank all of you for coming out this evening uh please be careful in your leaving but if you've got additional questions or feedback uh please use the QR code available did I leave anything out am I good okay thank you all very much
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um also through channel 18 on Monday and Saturday at noon and Thursday at 3 and so we the the one agenda item that brings us together um is to award the contract for uh legal councel and so I'm going to turn it over to uh Dr sa Maguire okay so um I just wanted to update the committee as to what the process was that we went through as a district and that is that um myself along with um assistant superintendent James Kylie and two of our school committee members um Chris Oliver and be C Coughlin uh we all sat on the interview committee we had an opport opportunity to um review several applications um if I remember right we had six in total and that from those six we decided to bring three forward uh we had an evening where we invited those candidates in and had uh the an interview process um at that time we only interviewed two of the three candidates that we had invited um and uh from after that opportunity we had discussion uh then we did some fact finding and came back together and decided as a team that uh we were going to move forward and recommend the law firm of Murphy Tumi hessie and laain um they had uh they have certainly had a strong interview the lead attorney his name is Kevin brahan attorney bran hand um we felt confident that his experience and wealth again wealth of knowledge not only that he held but that of his entire firm would uh definitely uh be a firm that would represent the community of Dartmouth well and so again six applicants all very uh certainly competent uh we were able to narrow it down to three interview two and feel really confident bringing this recommendation forward to the the committee thank you Dr Sab Maguire um I don't know if you want to add anything Mr Kylie since you did such a nice job organizing much of this process thank you Dr s Maguire I I just uh I guess I would just add that you we we we really did feel like we had a very strong pool of candidates um there was in within the pool there was a great deal of experience doing work um you know related to to our to our field um and ultimately our recommendation um for Murphy hessie Tumi and Lan is is one that's based on their level of experience working directly with the school districts and we were confident that uh you have good good opportunity here to engage them for the next year with options to renew all that so that is our recommendation thank you Mr Kylie um Mr NES I know you unmuted so I'm thinking perhaps you had something to no no I I didn't I just you know I mean if you're ready for a motion I can make that motion sure okay mad excuse me Madam chair make a a moment motion that uh we uh offer a contract to the law firm of uh Murphy Tumi uh haly and leag and we authorize the superintendent to sign said contract on behalf of the school committee second so we have a motion by Mr NES a second by Mrs coflin um any further discussion Miss Mr Oliver thank you madam chair so yeah I'll just Echo um what um Mr Kylie and Dr s Maguire said that a great po of candidates but ultimately uh this firm I think with their level of expertise as well as um the uh the number of attorneys they have uh working in different areas of educational law I think will help the dart schools go a long way so that's all I have thank you Mr Oliver any further discussion other than I go ahead Mr B um I agree with all that has been said um and I feel that uh Murphy hessie Tumi and leaine uh will give us the quickest um most experienced responses of all those who applied thank you B great so I think we're ready for a vote which has to be a roll call vote Kate Kathleen ameral yes Chris Oliver yes Elizabeth Coughlin yes Shannon Jenkins yes John noons yes excellent the motion passes uh 5 z um unanimously great and so with that um as our only agenda item I would uh entertain um a motion to adjourn Madam chair make a motion that we adjourn second a motion we got a second any discussion no roll call Kate Kathleen Amal yes Chris Oliver yes best Coughlin yes Shannon Jenkins yes John noons yes thank you everyone this meeting is adjourned thanks thank you all have a good night good night good night okay Mr parate are we going okay
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684 and drawing down our reserves of 3,44 th000 now to get to the point that is still pending in front of the city council um at the ad hoc committee I I think we made good progress they've asked us for some more information about how we're doing this year but it seemed like um the door was was open a little bit to uh continue to seek these resources now the step if I could the step that um about it turning to be a better year than we thought back in July was based on a strategy that we felt we had to take we have to take and that was to take even more positions that are in the budget and expenditures that we've made and put those go into two grants that are expiring one is the sr3 grant itself our projections show that if nothing changes between now and June there could be in the vicinity of $900,000 unspent and we think it's partly from uh vacant positions not not just positions that uh we were looking for necessarily this year but it goes back to the original plan it was laid down in the summer of in August of 2021 some of those things we we put in there remember it was a three-year uh plan we're going to do this this and this over three years and as for $ 25 million and now it looks like we're going to spend 24 million in change three years later there was some capacity there so what we have planned to do is take almost a million dollars out of this three million and use the S Grant to pay for the other thing we've noticed is in our Title One grants and particularly what we call the carryover Grant in in your title one Grant ours is close to $4 million um if you don't spend it by the end of the first year you can uh spend it in the second year with their permission and our car the carryover amount that we thought we would that we set up to spend this year we have not so what we'd like to do is the same thing go into that Grant move some salaries out of the budget and use that and we also see some money in the original title one Grant itself the one that if we don't spend it this year we'll be able to carry over a little next year we want to spend it this year but we'd rather not carry it over if we can reduce what we're asking the the city for so with those strategies Excuse me yes we have numbers as to what that would be that you allocated to the carryover approximately or I think it was a million4 Mike Mike do you remember what we did were there were it was going into two grants remember that okay the total was about 2.4 five million including yes so the balance and my question the estim money I assume is my understanding is that 900,000 comes back in in the $10 million s that's correct exactly right the the the other two grants the title one whatever you put in there is that something that additional Title One money coming in in the in the next year would be able to cover for what you put in there or is that somehow going to come back in the current year and the ask Opera well I think there's a little bit of boat um it's always nice to have a carryover grant it's always nice to carry some over at the end of the year for unexpected things um you know we're not going to have that that cushion most districts have every year including us uh that'll be gone we're using it for this um and from my sense is that the title one program has changed a little bit even in the last couple years uh from what we're doing with that so um I don't I don't know on that part but I I can say that all of our needs for next year are either in the lightson budget or in the drivers we're not expecting any um overspending in the grants or things that are not typical I hope I'm answering it no it's not clear um let me rephrase it again unlike the the es money the what I'm concerned at is is is the balance the 2.4 versus the the 900,000 that money that went into the title one whether be the carryover or the grant itself in the current budget that you presented to us of the 178 million are those costs incorporated in that number or is that number going to be hypothetically 179 million because we don't feel that these grants are going to be sufficient to cover what you put in there I'm trying to make sure that 178 is a firm number or is it 179 the the title one grants been around for a long time and it's It's Not Unusual to see someone based on what they're doing they're uh paid out of the title Grant every year based on what they do it' be here a long time and when I see when you get to almost February and there's monies that that's not spent and the programs being carried out it tells me that that's a safe place to go um otherwise I think we'd be doing you know trying to fill it and things like that so I'm I'm comfortable that because of where we are in the year that that Grant has the capacity and given the situation we're in it's a it was a choice we wanted to make you know I think it's a fair question it's because the superintendent here we're all talking about justifying 178 and it's you know I don't want to bank on a gamble that we have another million we may or may not have if you're I am it's going to be in here but and and also we we needed to do some some things we needed some strategies in case the city council money didn't come in they they the ad hoc has looked at it twice they haven't moved it out um we ALS we need to get ready for June no I understand so that was part I understand what you did and as I said it was pent they're like and the inter I kept talking to Kevin I said you I hope you're not going on spending at the rate that you anticipate getting the free Mill and he had said no he says we have taken taken action to reduce that so I I can't argue with the strategy this fills in at least my void of the missing three and of that how much is coming back uh I don't and I'm going to pause here for a minute I can't see Teresa said she had a question is that right no okay Kate I can't see you know hands up if anybody has a question so far so if they do could you just tell them to speak up sure is there anybody who has a question so far I mean to me this is clear but my way of thinking somehow is a little bit disjointed I go around a block to get to get you know to the store so to say but uh I'm comfortable with the explanation that was given me because I was troubled by the $3 million thinking it was going to come back to bite us somehow and not knowing where it fit in into the 178 Rich Wanita has her hand up Wanita uh thank you um Rich um I just have a question um John on the School operating budget projections and reductions if um K can can we go back to that on the screen right there thank you and can you tell me uh John which [Music] line I missed it which line did you say was the um was the 30% reduction to the schools was that under supplies most of their uh Cuts you know we asked them what what they would cut and predominantly it was the supplies so that well uh also has the utilities in there here in Danbury energy is called a supply so the 140,000 that we if I remember right that we took out of utilties is included in that 549 okay I I just want to be clear that number doesn't sit right with me I don't know why but you're saying the [Music] 54911 includes the total 30% reduction on the um the per the pupil all ations relations the principles and program leaders uh also cut other line items uh for example you can see there uh dues and fees U staff development there's 16,000 there purchased Professional Services uh that was cut by some people as well so um there were you know four or five different different line items that were picked but the Lion Share was supplies okay I'm not I I don't have a clear um understanding of what you're saying so I'm I'm just gonna go back again to the people that are on the um Zoom I have uh before me um the budget by locations the base allocations for each of the schools and there was a 30% reduction to each of those um locations and I am trying to find out where I I need the uh the total that was saved I know it's broken down in line items but each of them were given a reduction 30% reduction from last year's Al ation to the upcoming years's I'm sorry this year's to the upcoming Year's um allocation and I'm trying to figure out John where on this screen I I assume that you're saying that those reductions are split between the line items they are yes um can you um if it's not too much in our next um board meeting could you please give us a copy of the uh by the budget by location based allocations the one that you've submitted to me can that be part of the package of course um did we get around to you yet the answers to the questions from the last board meeting I I think we might have sent that on Friday too for Wednesday night and we did put some information in a couple of the exhibits about that but I'll go back and see if it identifies the cuts and and see maybe you could too and then give me a call see what else we can provide that's okay um well if you yeah because I do have it in front of me what you supplied for me um and so I would just like the other board members including the finance committee to actually see that document I I had planned to walk through those U exhibits on Wednesday night but again if you think there's something not in there that helps tell the story just let me know and we can add to it it's it's not oh and and we can add it in well sure we can give it present to the board yeah of course wonderful okay thank you so much John okay sure sure so you're said so rich you essentially asking the additional $3 million if it was rolled over into the propos 178 million is that correct that's correct and the answer to the answer to that is no because it was absorbed in I'm sorry of the $3 million approximately 900,000 would be rolled over into our current budget because it the Suppy gets the s three grants which are completely wiped out so that the 900,000 is part of the1 million exra money that we're looking to provide in our current budget the other monies the other $2 million are in existing grants that that like the alliance Grant would have funding in it to take care of that those those costs so then what is the $3 million ass that we're asking for the city that was the confusing part at this point as I said was my understanding and that ad hoc got meeting got very confusing because kin and John went in very clearly saying we we're not asking for the three we'd like to have an authorization or you use the word condition a condition we'd like to have a condition so that we can draw down on it and again I'm paraphrase because we don't feel we're going to be $3 million in the PO but best case scenario we think we're going to break even and if not then this whatever is is over we'd like to draw down rather to come back to you to this differential they felt so Kevin was saying we felt comfortable that we are going to have a good year that next year and he was for warning them we're not going to ask you for the 3 million Reserve we're going to ask you for the full $5 million we said and and then it got very confusing and and it went nowhere so but ultimately they stated their case correctly and then through addition an hour and a half of other conversation somehow got lost in translation so I don't know where it is now except giving him a lot of work you know for for nothing one one more question uh on the salaries are those that salary figure is for people we actually have and the benefits this is not uh pending more hires at this point the 83 million right okay um last November as we build the uh preliminary budget uh what we do is we take a snapshot of everybody who's work working um and a snapshot of the bacon positions maybe that haven't been filled yet and for the people that are working we look at what bargaining unit they're in and what step they're on and we look at the collector baring agreement if we have it for the next year move them up a step see what their salary is and that's what we put into the budget if there's a a vacant position and there were there were plenty last November uh we make sure those are in we decide on what we think we can hire them at and that also goes in under that same number yes however so what you're seeing there in the 83 million was everyone was called on the on the payroll in the in the school budget but we did the same thing last year we're doing this year there were people in Esser to last year and you remember that night Dan Donovan was here and the the high school teachers um we calculated what that would be salaries and benefits but we isolated it down here on this enrollment impact line so there's $4 and A5 million dollar of What were new positions for us last year so they you know the answer your question is it 83 million um it's 83 million plus the people that came in from about four and a half so to bring us more up to date a couple of weeks now the mystery of the 150 154 solve we could move on to our current budget that going to talk about on Wednesday couple of weeks ago I met with John and asked him if he could present a the Esser of the10 million the in a format that that that combine not not combines but mirrors basically what we're talking about in in our budgets by classification and that's how he developed this schedule this is a long schedule which he breaks it out in total and then he breaks it out in in terms not only by by classification of account codes but he also breaks it out into it history mean no no it's a long spreadsheet long so he breaks it out not only by category but by you got it yes he breaks it out by by the the classifications as well this is saying the same thing as we have and I pulled out my my budget book in in the in the budget presentation we had slides that went through some of this but the slides are good but for our purposes I'd like the I say the accounting in more details so he already had the schedule perhaps he can go through this with us because this now is going to be the comparison next week when we start talking about or Wednesday I'm not sure when Wednesday when we start talking about the differential between our budget and our budget is 178 million versus 150 million the only way I looked at it was because it was such a big number ini this year made up several components unlike other years where I kept referring to the lights on budget that we hadn't talked about yet of the 160 million and then building on top of that the $10 million of eser money and then than the other $8 million of basically new asks so you know there are different ways of looking at it however I think this completes it and and puts it in the line number or category so that it's simpler at least for me to understand and it completes the picture um could I walk through now go ahead okay Ken you have two charts those ones we were talking about with the yellow columns didn't show up and what people have but I'd like to go to the second one and for the rest of us it's the one I sent around uh singly uh maybe a half an hour before the meeting started it's also called um 2425 superintendence budget Ken has it there now the difference between the two charts is one column that appears under the word superintendent there's a new column that I've added and it's called current programs and services and I I'll tell you I'll explain that in a minute but that that's the right one Ken's pointing to it so what you have here the numbers in the first two columns uh should be familiar that's what we just talked about that's um the the budget as adopted and then the budget without the savings 150 and and then uh when we built our lights on budget it came up to a 160 million that's uh you see under the column that says carry forward and it's just those seven or eight line items being uh projected forward using some of the technique I described um on salaries and some things like that but one of the um one one of the things you see in there if in that third column if you go down to that line item I was talking about before in Roman impact equipment and I told you last year it had five over5 million look at what's there in the lightson budget it's not there anymore because those salaries are now up in the salary line where they belong those High School teachers might say well John what's in the 1.2 million why is it still so High um the big thing in there is the repairs from Rich jalbert's facilities budget remember we started adding think it's about $800,000 for repairs that are not part of the city's perview that we want to do this will be the second or third year we've done that you'll see those on Wednesday night but what I just want to show you to start with is you see that number dropping way down so um as you go across you see um in in in that when we did that we needed 160 million that's 10 million more than 150 of course and that's a 6.99% increase let's call it seven but of that seven 3.15 of the seven 3.15% is making up that 4.7 million I'll say it again because see that's not there anymore it's blank so if the 6.99 three of that three of the seven is making up the money that we don't that we had the year before but uh the rest of the lights on budget here is up just under 4% and that that's what we're going to talk about Wednesday I'm going to show you uh what we've done for uh in energy for example that's one of the reasons it's down uh what we think about health insurance transportation and so on and so forth now together there's $10 million and we um we met this morning and I think well let me just walk you across quickly when you go from the 160 the next what you see going left to right are the different drivers we really have emphasized in our two workshops so far you'll recognize these number there's the sr3 that's expiring 10 point almost 10.8 million the high school we're calling it The overcrowding that's the the nine core teachers app five elective teachers some more buses and uh classroom f Furniture uh opening up theems and as as you go across the list you're seeing the money that we've propos and at the bottom what kind of percent that is say adding to the 7% just for um discussion instructional Improvement that's the the last thing we put in uh you heard Mr Walston talk about uh the Paris that would go in the classrooms the kindergartens all that that's that one um security and Technology uh is there the special ed five teachers we need and the the support for the multilanguage Learners you add that across here you can see $18 million of increases bringing us up from 160 the 178 you can see compared to the 150 there's the $28 million and the messaging we've had so far what the point the main point we've been trying to let people understand is that the Esser 3 is expiring call the fiscal cliff whatever that is a big uh mover but as we uh talked this morning we realized that we we really can't let people think that if we got 160 million it would be the same program and services next year that we have this year it's not I I think Kate you might have been the one that first brought this up that you know the the sr3 people are here that's part of the programs and services you know to have the same thing next year that we have this year without any improvements without thinking that the high school enrollment is going up we really need 170 million we we we have to have that those Esser staff members so on the chart you see that column we put in uh current programs and services um I'm adding into the the original 10 million the 10 million for essers so um I think we could maybe call if we were going to call that the lights on budget but I think the second message we want to start carrying is that you know to keep things the same we we we need both so that's kind of a that's a new way of looking at it um maybe Rich I'll stop there and yeah this going be occurred before go back okay um you mentioned the the the 6.99% yes then you went on to say a percentage approximately half or something included the 4.7 um well yeah I I gotta find the right choice of words I know after I said that yeah I mean should only be I mean right should only be a million dollars the stuff that you didn't transfer out right stuff that you didn't transfer out to Grants the the lights on budget here the Third that's 160 million it's going up 10 million right and you can justify the the reasons for it but you know I want to make sure that you know the statement that this includes the $4.7 million that we were short when we just accounted for 2.4 million going to to the Esser the title one grants and plus another 900 ,000 going to Alliance that you know you can't have it back in here say it's like double dipping right so um want to make sure that this is not over stated or or it's your statement testing correct that it includes right 4.7 I could understanding if you putting back in your presentation here the numbers on when you have the the school budget where you show the $1.6 million uh everything on there came out of the budget with the exception of the 919 that was transferred to Alliance but the others if you're saying we're going to make that up and put it into this year you know I can understand that but I I think the way you see that um you might say why is why is that operating budget up so low why how could it be under 4% and one of the reasons is some salaries have gone into alliance some salaries have gone into the title ones so they're they're there for good this is what's left remember our our labor contracts um really because of inflation and and some of the needs we've had to find people they're not they're not twos and threes anymore they're threes and fours so if anything the budget should be a little higher than that but we've done these strategies to help they're L they last maybe that's question just yeah just so long as the 4.7 milon do not include the duplicated in year right okay that's fine understood that and so the Teresa these salaries this is as was presented previously there's no new I saw something about site administrators now for the new uh the new building I didn't call site administrators to let alone one so uh those positions are if you look in the column that [Music] sayses kind of in the middle there's 200,000 uh that number has been the same since the beginning uh but what we' done is uh we didn't think those were labeled correctly when we first put it out um we we actually think a better title might be program administrators um and we've had a number of discussions what will the work be who will they report to um so this is really money for leadership in both buildings um planning before July we don't have um exact on those if I may some of that also is subject to negotiation with the unions and so I I think the site administrator title evolved out of your original inquiry around you know too many principles and it's confusing and so in reflection of that we did have some conversations about the titling of that but it also is subject to to bargaining negotiation and then of course the organization itself of the high school to the new campus you're welcome the salaries that have changed since we first presented are in that one driver that one Improvement um that we're calling instructional Improvement that's the the 2.6 that's mostly par Educators in the classrooms with teachers all grade levels so the in essence I I just want to say that presentation you gave here on the spreadsheet so my I like it it makes sense come Wednesday we're going to have to now dig through and defend I'd like to use it could yeah defend the difference between what makes up salaries and the components and how it was derived that but at least we have the understanding as to where we are we confirmed the 150 this has a nice breakdown to it um and we can take it from from here the other thing is the other schedules that that are attached you know there's a lot of information I think you could read at your leisure unless you have questions on it the the one I think John may want to point out had to do with a projection he did because I keep complaining about a multi-year projection and he says hey you know somehow we listen to you but and we had done it I had it here for a minute so if you want to explain that John U Ken the one that says fiscal year 2122 could you just go to this yeah the next page after that this one is I I'm amazed at this every time I look I remember looking at this when I first got here and um boy it means a lot more now I'll tell you so in June of 2021 uh the U my predecessor along with with under Mr janell's leadership uh put this multi-year budget together and it it's really good and I I won't go through everything um but the page that you're looking at there what what it did was it said if the city doesn't in start increasing its contribution um our costs are going up and we're going to be losing ERS so this big gap is going to happen um they called it a a cumulative variance was the name they gave it you can see it right there it's small um but as you look at it and you go over to fiscal year 25 the fourth call remember they're projecting three years ahead of time they showed that cumulative variance after you've lost the Esser of the city not really ponying up too much of $24 million boy that is awfully close uh to do three years ahead of time and it and then it goes on to say um here's how much more the city should be putting in so that um we don't have these things happening um so that was uh I'll just read it says um even with the Esser funds to offset some of the cost through 2025 the Board of Ed and city of Danbury will be left with a great Gap or clip in fiscal year 26 if we do not keep Pace with it so and so forth that is a amazing so you know we came up with that Cliff slide last year we call we've seen a couple meetings you know we oh hey we we told you last year here's how we told you we we put this out several years ago uh and told the same thing so I just wanted to share with I'm sure many of you saw when it came out good piece of work I'd like to take time to to make an editorial comment um we should never do again what we did what was done historically in terms of using funds to to this magnitude that we don't have insurances for um I look at it as taking out a debit card and having no way of paying it back or gambling and not having it to debt but not to say that the district needed that money in order to function the difference in terms of you know having hindsight and not being there it just put you in the B but point being we are faced with the same challenge right now with regard to the academy there is a budget that presented in the presentation to us or I think it was there of some $13 million maybe $2 million or maybe a million dollars was expended another million or million and a half I think is in the proposed ask of the new ask of the 8 million but it's leaving somewhere about $12 million we have a a structure that is being built that is anticipated to be open in what 24 or 2526 the entire city of Danbury is you know has their ribbon and the wait for ribbon cutting to to do that that money was already provided for by a bondage you know that the city paid what they neglected to do was to give us the money to fund that District to open it up with the staff that needs and we cannot continue in next year to go through higher people in Cur debt without the guarantee and I use that word guarantee that that money is going to be here for us um otherwise it's going to be chaos and then the superintendent is is going to have a difficult time trying to to maneuver and fill that building so it's just we we've learned a lesson in the past we have to I guess what I'm saying is we now have to start working differently than we've worked in the past we have to work closer with the city they have to be part of our operation we have to understand what they are you know it's it's important the days that we were asking for two three four million dollar it's totally gone we're talking telephone numbers now in double digits we need a yeah we we need a collaborative effort you know on the city's part to understand this to make sure in order for us to make plans as to what we're going to do so the method of of operating has to be changed and and it just we don't want to repeat the same mistake but with that being said I'm satisfied with what was being presented to what was my thoughts and what we'd accomplished tonight on this particular agenda does anybody else have any thoughts on that okay seeing that I would like one of the items I think the last item on the agenda I don't have my glasses but I had asked the committee members to it's not that John doesn't have enough work is to come up with three reports that they would like to see furnished I don't care and then you could put on there whether it be a quarterly monthly or just leave a blank and we can discuss it different types of reporting that you would like to to see if you would email me that how they consolidate it and one of our committee meetings we could talk about it and prioritize it and then maybe put counter the dates on it um and the purpose of that is I think there are reports that should be eligible for us to see that that we don't get for if we get them we get them one year you may not get them the other year so we can decide that this is a regular routine uh the type of reporting as well as what the district wants to present to us um so if you just send me those emails I'll consolidate it and then we'll talk about at the next meeting yes has stus a I don't know yeah I I have no still so no there so there are two things um explain them quickly when the city publishes its annual report called the caer they take the financial results and they show them two different ways one's called the budget basis and one's called Gap generally accepted accounting principes and the difference is when uh when you do on the budget basis um anything that you budgeted is shown as an expense on the Gap basis and this is just something the accountants do for the report um if bills are not paid even if they're budgeted they come out it's to make the statement look more uh familiar and friendly to investors in our bonds so that they can see things the way they're looking at corporate annual reports which are on a gap basis and really what they're looking at is if you have enough cash flow to pay down your interest on your bond so they they don't want to know if it's budgeted they want to know what's there so about a week a week ago Mike we got uh we heard from the audit manager that they wanted us to restate our grant fund on a gap basis which never done before we always just send things over but we did it think it took a day or two and then uh today there was an email that said we want you to go into your general fund and restated for this Gap basis so we said we do it and we did and then they said well we want you to do a journal entry now and we we actually having the city do it it it's all it's new stuff that we've never had to do before um but because they asked for it we're doing it I wish they could have asked for that a month or two ago but that's is there anything else that's the whole list right no we've submitted um everything that they've asked for originally and they're doing their subsequent testing so right now it's down to very GL things they want us to pull they want us see copies of people's uh pay St they want to see the the payroll register um they want to see the contct that so is that for 622 or 23 summer summer summer of 21 well that's sort of a late time to request that's usually done way in the beginning this is ridiculous can I ask is this still by zo everything zo yeah they have a portal and we uh drag things into the portal but those requests are done early in the initial part It's like grun work you know it's like a you your account and checking off Bank ear agents to make sure it's done three times we've had at zero and then they come back for more this is I think there's a lot of items items left for the city so while the city is preparing those items I figure you got nothing to do yeah they'll do that which is um I don't mind well um I'm acquainting myself with the software now in 22 pulling the the same data for 23 so that in a few months when they come in after for 23 where I I would imagine um if you could keep track of their all the requirements and doing that and this is what you did this year you do this year you know 22 this is we're following what you did for so I I can't believe these people they're nuts Kate if it's okay then could I ask for motion to adjourn so moved I get a second by Teresa all those in favor I I I okay thank you I thank you all for your participation I hope you found it informative and satisfactory and
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2024-01-31 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Creighton School District transcript source: youtube Governing Board Advisory Council-1-30-2024 · passage 1
uh bringing the meeting to order it's the governing board advisory committee to review policies call to order uh the agend agenda should be uh you should have received the agenda already um when you're ready i' appreciate it if someone could give a motion to approve the agenda please I move to approve the agenda as presented second all those in favor motion passes uh next item is a call to the audience uh for uh to have a uh public comments uh for accepted in person or in email do we have any no subed okay uh the next part is the bulk of the agenda item itself uh we have the policies that we've been going over and uh According to some of the notes that I had uh that were sent to you before we had um uh decided that we're going to go and focus primarily on policy JK which should be posted in your drive um we also had a couple of tabled items uh that we can uh continue to table or we can revisit uh depending on how uh the committee feels about uh our progress and stuff so I guess I that's my open-ended question do we want to dig into uh what we're currently working on or do we want to revisit table items suggestions are appreciated um I would like to go back I think with like two things to look at at the previous policy I'd like to just go resolve those before we move on to something else is that uh jir is that what you're referring to I think so J oh J I was the one that we were working on that I was wasn't sure if we finished I the student rights and expectations yes I don't think dra I'm not sure did we the responsibilities portion of that page um um I think we did actually I was goingon to say I don't see any unresolved comments we did it was just those things that we didn't get to finish so circling back um do we want to move forward with um with JK or does anybody else have a suggestion or recommendation there've been um I know there have been several people that have put in comments in JK already uh we can kind of take some time to review those and then go and start it or whatever your little heart desires we got like I think my my little heart would just want to just make sure that everybody is okay with um a through C of the responsibilities because we were working off of one that I had kind of already manipulated and so A1 or a and A2 were once together all those like um and I added something to it and then same with B I broke up added and then C I added quite a bit so as long as everyone was okay with a through c as it currently and you're back on ji you're on ji yeah I I would really like to resolve everything on ji before we move on just so we can be done with it we can say this is done we don't have to revisit it it'll probably take us 15 minutes yeah I recall we had um am I looking at something there was something we were supposed to Circle back to and I don't know if it was like definition of progressive or there something there was a few things yeah well those are referring back to my understanding is those are referring back to some of the tabled items that we were looking at Define equitability progressive proportional logical and uh when is a restorative experience obligated in the process those were the two things that were connected to that that's my understanding yep I'd like to talk about those for a bit I don't see it on the document though itself I had it in my notes but on ji am I looking at a different document no on Ji we have there's some comments do you see any of the comments on ji no draft one ji Ed and then there's which one is that apparently I have two there's one called committee draft one is that the one that you created or is that the one that Adriana created that's the one you created right look at all the ones that say committee draft one ji draft ji edits that's in there that was that was yours it was like an all blank one for people to just have oh and then we started going off gotcha okay sounds awesome and I can delete ji to be honest yeah I would appreciate that cuz um that confused me Nicole I forgot if we talked about this last time but defining defining things we wanted to put in the glossery are you okay with me resolving this and adding to the glossery sure okay's resolve and then this at the bottom and then go with this very with this one very comment on the top that Nicole added about students have the right to be themselves and unafraid on all cating campuses I feel like this is right represented in the student rights and responsibilities is that somewhere I just see it all by itself was that something that was like a prefer preface to the the policy I think sorry I'm trying to get logged on to the internet no you're good um cool Nicole at the top you put like a it looks like a preface almost where it says like students have a right to right yeah I think um let pull it up on my screen um looks like this yeah yeah I my line of thinking was to kind of have an opener that was um like under rights and expectations like you know the rights to to to feel safe to be respected and then n because then that incorporates into like okay so then when it comes to your conduct you know are you are you infringing on every on somebody else's right to be respected and be safe um that makes sense I feel like that is represented more like in more detail at the bottom where it says these rights include physical safety and emotional well-being okay yeah and I think that that was like one of the first things I threw on there so I didn't even get to the bottom yet so I'm sure had I gotten to the bottom I would been like oh it's not necessary my bad I must have not seen this last time the second yeah I'm still I'm still kind of trying to play catchup with good everything so all right now we got to talk about this paragraph in the middle um last time we talked there were four words that would be very actionable although needing a definition logical Equitable proportional and Progressive so I you know I went and talked to some teachers and teachers really like having language that is actionable when it comes to discipline because sometimes we get discipline that is not any of these things sometimes we don't get discipline at all when students um violate like sort of the school rules or school policies yeah Daniel can I ask I think that you're getting to the meat of the work of the the meat of the tonight's work it sounds like we wanted to go to like the table topics but can we just make sure that the the a through whatever we went through if everyone was good with that because then we'll be able to say like done um so before we start with the conversation of what we'll Define is yeah actually I'm so sorry no you're good are you guys okay with what's under responsibilities a through C and just to be clear is what's on the screen what y'all are talking about right now okay okay sorry I'm trying to get it so that the viewers any viewers externally can see what you're seeing for some reason I'm just getting black do I need to extend display or something is that [Music] no I switch to Apple TV it shows regular Apple TV but you're connected VI HDMI so maybe somebody else could airplan oh wait no have the same docum presented um and Vanessa presented at the laste I don't have well if anyone's watching you can go on thee draft ji edits document and see what's happening right now as they speak yeah so you just mean c as well because there's no C2 I see C1 and C2 yeah there's a C1 and a C2 C2 is students have the right to safe and clean facilities those are those we went through already I I'm so sorry guys I was talking about the responsibility section but but let's answer your question about that okay um I wanted to specify that our but I don't know if it's how necessary it is since I believe it's already federal law but that are accessible to like disabilities or or you know folks of all abilities needs or yeah have the right to access have the right to access have the right to safe and clean facilities safe clean and accessible facilities there you go or I like that thank you I don't have a problem with that but can you explain your thought process about accessible yeah um so yeah I think that that may need to be somewhat specifi like distinguished like accessible um to um this not despite but accessible to those of all physical abilities you're you're kind of referencing like the the Ada yeah yeah so that's why I'm like wait if it's already like a federal law do we need to specify that I actually like this um Nicole because something could theoretically be ADA Compliant but not accessible I mean you know for example you could have a wheelchair lift somewhere but the wheelchair lift is always broken and so we never use it or it's always closed off yeah because we do have a like the elevator at our school just the one in one building shouldn't it say ada8 compliant that because really what you're talking about is accessible in terms of ADA right yeah yeah I mean I don't not sure how the are not sure that would need to I mean SE several of the other policies will reference laws and stuff so I don't think it's inappropriate to kind of just put that in there as a reminder yeah I think that's fine too whatever what language do we have no adequately accessible I I agree I think we have it in there however my Wonder is if you read this you don't know that we're talking about differently able to people having accessible bathrooms do you do you know what I'm saying like right now like as a so I'm just wondering if we need to identify like students with if we need to even clarify that's what we mean because I don't think I don't think that you would read this necessary and be accessible and think that we are talking about our students in wheelchairs you might think that we just mean that they have access to them I didn't think well but I think that's a good thing though because I mean there could be a student who's not necessarily disabled but for some other reason needs a bathroom to be accessible right um like for example we keep it but then I think that we we can keep it like that but I think that what you're trying to get at is know regardless of your ability or your disability we will have safe facilities for you and I don't think you read that and think that yeah when reading it like this I think oh it's it's unlocked yeah that's yeah so I think that almost would need to be like a like just a I guess a SE students have the right to safe and clean facilities that are also accessible we just just use the phrasing ADA Compliant like James said what do you think um I think we're splitting hairs unnecessarily um because the these rights are the rights of all students period so um you know we start getting into and it's and I think it's going to be important especially as we keep moving forward right we talked we've already talked about things need to be developmentally appropriate and like we I we've used that kind of language elsewhere I think right this is the same kind of thing I don't know if it needs to say Ada accessible because that also just says we're only focused on kids with hand with dis people with disability or students with disabilities which is also I think short sighted right it's all students have a right to whatever have accessible facilities okay and whatever that means for the individual student I think is probably we're it's right we're IND this policy is indicating the superintendent needs to make sure there are procedures in place to ensure that this stuff exists I think that that those details live in this in the procedures of the superintendent overseas yeah okay okay Megan yeah I do feel the word accessible is weird there like clean and accessible facilities I feel like safe and clean facilities are not that are accessible to I don't know I but I like feel like if I was an outsider coming into this students have the right to safety and accessible facilities okay yeah I think if I I get what you're saying so safe and clean facilities maybe someplace else if need a facilities I think yeah I guess it doesn't fall under in hearing what you're saying we've identified St like it's basically if we Define students as all students regardless of their abilities then we could take out the accessible but to ensure that people know that we could have just Define students like any child who participated in our school regardless of and then that kind of will save us from this conversation moving forward because if it says students we know we're talking about all of them right right I mean I you know everybody's going to come into this with their own lens and I don't know they we'll come up with the exact wording that's going to be perfectly written for 100% of people's lenses that's the challenge of writing policy exactly students have the right to access safe and clean facilities I like that somebody like dude I can't access it I like that whether they pack it up the stairs or that it's always broken I like that too yeah okay perfect y high five okay so bottom of page four are we good does it need to be C2 or or do we the reason I have it written at C2 is just because if um if they were once things that were together I separated like these were these were somehow like you were physically safe and you had a clean building and so I had separated them okay re Reed So eventually that'll be D andow would be we'll do that in the final con so we're moving to responsibilities now is that what you're asking yeah because I just didn't recall that we had a conversation about them and I just wanted to um I don't want to have a unintentional outsized like I did this and nobody knew about it um so just I separated a few things from like 8 what bottom of page four looks good to me page four okay go Team all right good okay so circling back to is it at the top where uh on page btom page two bottom of page two revisiting that conversation yep so just to confirm did you have it's it's written up there at the bottom of page two but the ones that we were wanting to look at were Progressive discipline Equitable logical and proportionate yep and yep Progressive logical equital proportional and then using the word disciplinary versus the word corrective so I feel like feel like that one's an easier one right disciplinary versus corrective so do we want to start there I feel strongly that the word disciplinary should be in here because I think we talked last time a corrective is saying like saying hey don't do that is corrective whereas this policy is specifically referring to dis lary action so things that would be considered as extrem as suspension or as expulsion but also as minor as help clean up after lunch or you know whatever and in saying it and I don't know that I I'm trying to figure out if I agree or disagree um but in saying that is is your application of those two words like teachers do corrective actions and administrators do disciplinary actions I mean I think that is reflective of what I'm talking about but that was not my intention okay well I'm I'm Wonder because I I I would I I believe that like a teacher correcting a child's behavior is a form of discipline it is an imposed action taken by by somebody it can be as react so I mean and again I guess it's what's the what's the definition I'm I'm I'm not arguing one way or another for the wording I'm just trying well because like for I think last time I used the example of if I send a kid out of my room that is dis disciplinary right um but if I'm just like hey could you pick up the trash that you dropped I that is more corrective right I feel like um again thinking about what are things I would call home for thinking about what are things that I would create paperwork for those all be disciplinary do you so in your mind corrective and disciplinary are two separate things yes do they like what Allan was uh implying or saying do you feel like they also in two different worlds and what I mean by that is like what he was saying is one teacher managed and one office managed is that how you see it no there's overlap right like I think again if I send a kid out of my room like at at my school we we use a behavior lad so you get a reminder which I would say is corrective you get a warning like a verbal warning which I would say is corrective you get a hallway conversation which again there's no paperwork I'm not talking to anyone I'm just talking to a private area I would say that's corrective because throughout that entire process if the kid just goes oh I'm sorry bless you oh I'm sorry I won't do that uh then they've corrected their action there's no discipline and then eventually if I talk to them in the hall they continue their behavior I send them out of the room with a reflection sheet I have to call home I would say that that point is disciplinary right I have removed them from the classroom for whatever reason I'm contacting home right have you guys considered maybe just putting them both in there and then having them both in the glossery corrective and disciplinary actions I I don't I don't have an issue with that for me I've learned a lot about this in the last couple of weeks and uh I um I I guess it's it's kind of important to for me it's kind of important to think about like the spectrum of it um in terms of like when does that Spectrum go from teacher to office and also I think it's also important to uh recognize um sort of the philosophy uh behind what you're trying to accomplish right um and I've had this conversation a couple of times with people about how um there's uh the this idea of um your uh your your what your goal is right if if your if your goal is punitive or your goal is consequence um I I think that that kind of sets up a dynamic that is um in a direction of um a a linear spectrum and and at one end it's this kid is no longer part of the learning community and at the other end they're a vibrant um inclusive uh learning student and uh I think what is concerning to me is if that is the linear Dynamic it doesn't um it doesn't encourage other things and um I'm not saying that they're not extreme situations where um suspension and expulsion are uh are not uh part of the conversation um I just I I know like right now what what is really important to me is trying to find things that are our options uh to uh try to because we do really well or excuse me some people do really really well with consequences and things like that but we don't always do so well with the teaching aspect right you assume a kid knows better um but sometimes they don't Sometimes they come from dysfunctional families where things like that are not necessarily a priority so um we as an educational institution we teach math reading and writing but we I I we don't always do a good job of teaching discipline and I think that uh that that's just a worry I'm not I'm not against any of this it's just I think words matter and um it worries me that uh we whether we like it or not as an educational institution I feel like if we believe in the success of our kids we have to have that be part of the philosophy that's my so box sorry all right yeah now I believe I'm probably the one who put corrective on there um because again I was trying to kind of stray away from the verbiage that's more kind of tied in with like that school to prism pipeline but I just did a quick Google on corrective versus disciplinary and so it's got me rethinking so I'm just going to do this this first one that popped up corrective actions also attempt to improve or modify unacceptable Behavior formal actions taken when corrective measures fail to correct previous problems disciplinary actions are also taken when the seriousness of the offense warrant more formal measures so I think yeah they're different and so but perhaps we keep them both in there um so students who impact others negatively or break Community agreements of the district or their school community may face corrective action s or and or disciplinary measures that are logical Equitable and then dot dot dot and I think the issue is is that a lot of folks probably associate discipline uh sorry disciplinary and punitive with the same thing and that's not always exactly the case and so I think as long as you're defining it the way youall want to Define it in the glossery then everything should be okay the word the word that was recommended to me was instead of like consquences or disciplines it's outcomes I know that's not always a word that people would feel is specific but the idea is that you're trying to go and have options uh for uh they call them natural consequences right it's a PBIS thing where there's something that they can go through and do but I I don't know I I'm I'm torn by that there are some things about PBIS that I like there's some things about PBIS that I'm a little apprehensive about too too so I don't know I see both sides I think that a nice compromise would be for us to go ahead and put corrective and or disciplinary actions because I think that there's like there's space in a kid's learning um and in a kids growing to do both of those things and I'd also like to suggest that we cons we stop considering dis like disciplinary things to be the punitive part the one that makes the kid feel bad about what they're doing because in restorative practices it's about like the repairing harm and so the discipline isn't isn't intended to just be like you feel so negatively about what you did you won't do it again it is to correct the behavior so there's inherently an element of Correction that's happening in discipline um but maybe it's like they're both rectangles but a corrective is a square is that is what I'm trying to say yes so I I I worry that when we I worry that part of this conversation is making it sound like well we got to discipline them because they got to feel punished and I don't think that's at the heart of what we're trying to do when we work with kids so I I would vote for both in there and I be thoughtful about um I agree my one caveat is that the second sentence that says in conjunction with any action students have the right to restorative experience that should be disciplinary and not corrective I would agree if because there like we talked about there's lots of little tiny corrective things that happen all throughout the day and you know Mr L you talked to me in the hall where's my restorative experience that doesn't mesh as well with a disciplinary action right that kind of relates to our other tabled item which is when does restorative experience become part of the part of the uh process oh obligated in the process we have some consensus here on what we just talked about I'm fine with it um I want to transition sort of so after our first meeting um I got to have a uh sit down and have a talk with our um Is it child Justice advocate so and that was a great experience I also had a chat with another parent who was following this um the meeting and so so here we go so her from the parent like her thought was like you know when you're talking about restorative Justice and she's that got more experience with that than I do with knowledge wise she's like you know I think we keep re referring to restorative experience or restorative practice she's like no restorative justice is like it's an actual thing there's a layout there's a way to do it you have to be trained in it like and yeah it's works and it's great but it's not just a sprinkle on top it's not a restorative experience um pivoting into my conversation with their child Justice Advocate there's a good chance they're not going to be here next year and they're the ones who do that like they're the ones who get the kids together and and try to like like hey let's let's talk that's so my concern is if we're writing restorative justice or restorative practices into it but then our district cannot we don't even have anybody who can do that for them then where does that put it so I'd like to counter on the conversation that you might have had just um the intent the main job of that person is to be responsible for restorative practices in the school in no time were they supposed to be the person that was doing the restorative practices or the restorative experiences or restorative justice that that was not the intention of them so even if a school doesn't have those it's we're not investing in the person to make the thing happen we have the practice happening that the person was supporting well and also I mean Nicole's right though that if you have schools with no person in charge of restorative experiences it's not going to happen but all that means is that I as a teacher I'm just going to start writing Grievances and school district is going to have to figure it out because that's why when Jay was here I think it was two meetings ago it might have been the meeting before you sat in in person um when we put this language in I you know said to our superintendent hey just heads up this is not happening at all of our schools do we all understand that this is obligating a lot of Staff a lot of training and everyone said they were all on board for it so that to me if I don't think there's anyone higher than the superintendent and our board members so I mean if the superintendent and our board members say this is what should be happening then we have to just trust that they are going to make it happen right yeah and you know my experience and from the teachers and the folks I've talked to at our school like you know I know once once that you know there's going to be a I I don't know who's going to be taking care of that part of it you know like there's because you know we don't have a assistant principal and we I don't think we have a counselor like so it's going to be yeah but I mean I I as like someone like as a parent and and knowing what I know and having the kids in there and and hopefully you know I've got my eye of being on the board at some point like yeah I would love to see that in there because then we make it happen we don't figure it out but I just want to clarify also that the budget hasn't been passed yet and then that's like one of the top priorities for the board and so I wouldn't say that that's like a foreclosed or foregone thing that CJs are not going to be well hold on well hold on let's um I mean I would also just say just ual board member but I'm just put we have cjas at almost all of our schools right now and this is not and this is not happening at all of our schools and the program's been running for three years and it's not very sucess that's more of a concern so I I would also say I would also say similarly our school district is supposed to teach kids to read but a lot of our middle schools don't have reading interventionists or math interventionists so um I think getting some of these things in policy is a great first step to making sure that they're actionable and not just abstract desires I agree and I I feel a sense of obligation to just like make sure that we're all thoughtful about um the intention of the meeting and our intent is to put into pra put into place a framework for like what we want to happen and I think that it's important that we're all really thoughtful about um that our intent it doesn't always get us doesn't always score us a home run but that doesn't mean that people weren't playing the game as hard as they could yeah um it if I think that we have a ton of really hardworking people in the C school district and we just want to be really thoughtful that like even though we aren't being able to like create a product that everybody would be like yes this is working I think we need to be thoughtful about how we speak about the reality of the T that it does have well everyone is working very hard is important to consider what is happening in our schools when we're designing policy I agree and I just think we just need to speak speak about it in a way that's thoughtful of the the human the human people behind all of that go ahead s that's um so a few things number one we are not right now writing po writing a policy we're writing a um no we we are writing a regulation regulation does not have the weight the same weight that the actual policy does the reg the regulation is to be give more more direction to the superintendent it's more and it really is the this is what we're trying to get to it's not must do right now that's the first thing second thing is your friend is right we are not doing restorative justice um we have not not one I don't know one single incident of restorative justice having been done in this school in fact I would imagine that most schools don't use actual restorative justice maybe some high schools do but there are restorative practices that schools can adopt and that's what that's what we have integrated in many if not all of our schools at some level or another um because we will I don't know that we would ever have the capacity to do true restorative justice at the level that that that training and I'm trained for that so I I would never recommend as an Elementary District that we would do that at that level but um so I do think that whe whether it's experiences or restorative practice or whatever we want to word that there are I think the intent is that if there's a disciplinary action taken and we might want to even Define what kind of disciplinary action because when we as as the conversation we're just having there are things that might be considered disciplinary that maybe we're not wanting or needing to recommend that with but um the intent of the restorative experience of the restorative practices however we want want to word it is about rebuilding and reconnecting the relationships that were damaged by the behavior and so whether that's in a formal restorative justice process which I would not recommend or not I still think it's important that we are teaching kids that when you wrong someone that you need to take responsibility for your actions and start repairing that relationship that's in some way shape or form alen slight correction even though this is a regulation regulations are still subject to grievances for our grievance policy so this is not an aspiration this is if this is not happening I can file a grievance and within five days my immediate supervisor needs to respond to me as to why this regulation is not being followed okay I'm just going to do a friendly time check in because it's 5:45 and we're on the SE we're now at two and a half meetings on this policy and I know it's a really important conversation I just want to do a friendly time check in well move just moving forward does anyone have an issue with logical Equitable proportional or Progressive I do I also didn't have because if not I think we're actually done with this policy all right with the exception of glossery stuff there's a few items down at the bottom um open comments I don't know if those need to be resolved or they're just there for notes I these are just basically my weird notes about what I was doing when I read this is just telling you like hey we sudden we wanted to have this um here's a comment from Allan about I'm not sure that the research pairs this to be a true [Music] statement down at the bottom of page five okay so this so this statement came from up above before this is a this is a me statement um and what I was intending on doing was trying to explain um that like the discipline was I was trying to explain basically what we were just talking about so this was my first stab at it and his comment was like your stab wasn't great so we don't really need to resolve those we just know this was a first attempt and it's there okay I want to pause on erasing it though because when we come back to this do do we want do we want to close ji and move over to JK all right um do we want to take five and scroll through the JK and the comments and remind ourselves or you want get into it actually no I'd actually like to um propose that we do a new method for this one because when I was looking at it um it was hard for me to decipher um and not not by lack of clarity in the wording but just and like how these all Impact one another based on what Katie's comments were I think it was easier for me she had talked us through her edits first and then I did my own editing or not your edits but your comments comments so I would prefer that we actually have her go through her comments and ask questions about that that would be my vote maybe like a two minute break and after start yeah you guys you want to take a break if you need if people want a break but I would rather hear from her first than I'm starting to go through I can start talking and if people get up and go to the bathroom how many people can leave at a time how many people we have here right now I don't even know who's on the committee anymore there there are eight members of the committee so five of us need to be here okay so one person can go to the bathroom at the or out of the room at a time otherwise as long as you're just in the room you're good make sure you take the pass yeah otherwise get up get food get water I'll start talking okay so um I have JK up on the screen and then I the reason I have my screen up is so I can switch back to wesla to kind of show you guys some things here and there um okay so the first paragraph is talking about um delegating powers to the superintendent to uh recommend policies and develop procedures for the discipline of students that comply with this statute um I'm pulling that up right now for you all to see um so that statute is pupil disciplinary proceedings and as you might come to see there um are word for word pieces of this in the policy itself and so um this first part obviously the first sentence we're probably going to need to keep but the second part of it um you know that's up for editing and it might be something you edit later on depending on how you edit the rest of it is what I would recommend yeah yep and so like yeah whatever was added in there and the Orange is something cool that could be added in like I said you might want to come back to this part once you've gone through the rest of it to decide like what is the beginning introduction going to sound like okay so if we scroll down a little bit uh it says the discipline and suspension expulsion of pupil should not be based on race color sex blah blah blah blah blah blah blah if you go okay so this is um if you look at the screen I have up that's referring directly to um 15843 n right and so um I don't think there's a problem with Allen's suggestion um obviously the legislature is not always going to be up to date with things and especially ours so I think as long as we're more expansive remember we have to be more expansive or protective than the statute then we're fine so as long as that's the case we're good um so there's that part next part so unless as required by 15 841 G so I'll go to 15 I know I put it in there it's hard to see in a comment that feels silly to make you all look at that so I'll just go to it on here okay sure sorry if I didn't do a very thorough job here okay so 15841 is responsibilities of pupils expulsion blah blah blah blah blah alternative education alternative to suspension program so if you go to 15841 G it says a school district I'm going to highlight on here so you can see on the screen oh no of course it does that never mind I just have it scrolled up okay okay a school district or Charter School shall shall expel from school for a period of not less than one year a pupil who is determined to have brought a firearm to school within the jurisdiction of the school district or the charter school except that the school district or Charter School May modify the this expulsion requirement for a pupil on a caseby Case basis the subsection shall be construed consistently with the requirements of individuals with Disabilities Act and for the purposes of the section EXP may include removing a pupil from a regular school setting and providing Educational Services in an alternative setting and Firearm means firearm as the finded in the United States code so a couple things here all right so um I don't hold on let me see where if there's another place where it has required suspension I'm trying to remember if there's another place in here where it talks about okay so one thing that we're going to need to do here is like if you because you actually do have a little bit of wiggle room in that subsection and it's not talked about in this policy and so in that subsection right it says you shall expel someone for not less than one year but it also says that you can modify the expulsion requirement for a pupil on a case-by casee basis and so I think it's important that that potentially be in the policy for parents and families and kids to know and also teachers and administrators um because that's pretty important I mean it's a pretty big caveat um also the this this subsection or the definition of expel also including um Educational Services in an alternative setting that's something that's not clear I think we basically my recommendation would be to add like a like add a paragraph about required exposure ions and then you know kind of move this down and go down to the like um sorry discretionary expulsions so like this is only this right here is the only mention and so unless required by 1841 G bringing a firearm to school which may be modified on a case-by Case basis that's like the only mention I just feel like it's pretty scant when you're try like that that sentence covers this entire G1 and two right think this is what my wondering was where I was getting confused and I I can't speak well for the LW so I apologize yeah but this is talking about our kindergarten through fourth graders and there is like a separate thing about how we can behave with our how we can suspend and discipline our kindergarteners and fourth graders and these are only like a um a c d and e those are only those special things you have to do if they are a kindergartener through fourth grader or um under the in kindergarten fourth grade definitely so that's what's confusing to I feel like that's an even more of a reason to separate that first sentence out because it applies to everyone not just kindergarten through fourth grade so so is that is that correct right yeah so we don't necessarily have to follow any of these we don't have to have all of these correct so this that yeah so you are right the rest of it is applying to only kindergarten through fourth grade and all of the following have to apply in order to um have a discretionary expulsion so my recommendation would be to split that paragraph up and then I'll get to the issue of the fifth through e8th graders in a minute okay I think we can address that after this one but yeah I would I would suggest at least splitting that up and then expanding on the 841 G since it applies to everyone okay um so as we went here I you know so I know it applies to K through 4 it says that all of the following apply the pupil seven years of age or older so like I said we can always be more protective if you want this to apply to to someone five and older then we can do that right we just can't say eight and older so like if you want it to be uh four five or six instead of seven you can do that I think this is the other way around saying we can only if they're Le if they're seven or older excuse me could make it 10 sorry I'm tired yes you could put it 10 years old or something and I'm trying to think think of I mean in the sped realm obviously that's going to be a big deal and I'm trying to think of like if you've I don't know help me out if you skipped a grade or you've been held back what age are you in fourth grade oh yes you could be like nine okay so that's something there thank you Alan I was my brain is yeah I'm again I was in Washington DC this morning and here I am right now I am a little tired but that's okay so thank you Alan so yes more protective would be older in this situation um so that's up to you all second section here is uh also has to everything again all has to be met here but I just wanted to define a few things so um where did I put I wanted to see if I put the okay if you look on this comment here on the right you know I put put that United States code thing I don't think I defined it in here anywhere it's pretty easy to um Define and what we could do is we could just include that definition in our glossery later on it's easy to copy and paste that from the United States code what I wanted to differentiate here was um dangerous weapon so requires districts to expel students who bring firearms that the subsection we talked about before or um any other dangerous weapons or de deadly instruments would be up to the district that's up to you what goes there right and so again this is K through four students if they're in in possession of a dangerous weapon and according oh this is where I put the US code so this is the US code definition of a firearm it's any weapon including a starter gun which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive the frame or receiver of any such weapon any firearm muffler or firearm silencer any destructive device and such term does not include an antique firearm so that definition of firearm is much um more restrictive than the Arizona definition of deadly weapon okay because you can have many of those things and not be considered to be in possession of a deadly weapon you could have like by themselves um the Arizona law criminalizes possessing a deadly weapon or a dangerous instrument if you're under the age of 18 Arizona's definition of a deadly weapon means anything designed for lethal use including a firearm but they don't necessarily say you got to Define firearm like the US code Arizona's definition of a dangerous instrument means anything that is under the circumstances in which it is used attempted to be used or threatened to be used is readily capable of causing death or serious physical injury I know this is like getting into the weeds basically what I'm trying to get across here is you know this is really young kids and I know that we've discussed that there could be very scary situations with really young kids right um and I think this is where you're going to have to have that conversation about what does this look like depending on how young the kid is and depending on what they potentially are possessing at school right what I can tell you like as far as under the criminal law in Arizona as far as a firearm goes and what I'm saying is like as long as the police can test fire the weapon using a similar bullet they're going to consider it an operable firearm the only thing and then as long as if it's an old kind of BB gun that's not a firearm if it's a got a CO2 cartridge BB gun that is a fire a deadly weapon okay um anything else like if it's an inoperable gun it's not going to be considered a deadly weapon obviously and if if it's an old BB gun again if you have a knife yeah like I said if you look at the dangerous instrument definition or deadly weapon it could fall into those but then you're getting into the weeds of like what's designed for lethal use or could readily cause seriously body serious bodily injury or death and so that's not clearly something obviously like teachers and administrators are interested in getting into the middle of but it is something you're going to have to consider about like how gray this is if you're sending a kid off to uh the delinquency system at this age because they they can't be charged as as an adult at this age but you can certainly get caught up in the delinquency system and even at a very young age and so especially with serious offenses like this and so that is a conversation that should be had I don't have all the answers for you because it's up to you guys um next one is the drug section I try to give a few examples so dangerous drugs in Arizona are going to be like meth MDA PCP an iic steroids so not your steroids you're getting for your allergies or whatever um dangerous drugs I'm sorry sorry narcotic drugs AR fentanyl cocaine and heroin are the common ones Xanax Oxys hydros anything like that's like a painkiller without a script basically and then 3411 is marijuana so this statute is still listed so marijuana still listed under the statute under 1841 or 841 um however this section is permissible and not required so my opinion is that we should reconsider that even though obviously like a seven-year-old shouldn't be having marijana I think we should just reconsider like because that would be the same as you know there isn't a special section here for possessing alcohol at school and so I think we should just consider it like that in my opinion so you're taking it what I yeah I think I hear you saying us should consider taking that off meaning we wouldn't suspend for bring to schol um unless you have another section that also discusses alcohol because in my mind under the law it would be the same thing alcohol and marijuana because that's how they're viewed under the law as it is can can you repeat that are you are you saying are you confirming what she's saying that we shouldn't suspend because of marijuana I think that given what the laws are it's my opinion that you should be treating marijuana and alcohol equally because they are treated equally under the law they are regulated and they are for people who can possess it over the age of 21 yeah and that that also might sound salacious but if a six-year-old brings a eight pen school that's probably are you if a six-year-old brings there's no subsection in here about if a six-year-old brings a flask of whiskey to school oh yeah that's what I'm trying to say I think I agree with what you're saying that oh if a six-year-old or like brings like a shooter or their parents flash to school that's probably not the same thing as a 15-year-old yeah disagree and say that there's something not saying that alcohol is a suspendable yeah that's what I'm saying is like yeah I'm just saying like whatever you do here should probably be treat like whatever you treat marijuana as moving forward should be treated equally as alcohol and if one's missing and you want the other one then that's what that's what I'm trying to get across here it just feels weird that that's there and then there's no mention of alcohol and in my mind those are equal under the law in this situation no no kids are legally allowed to possess it but they're not illegal for everyone so here's my here's my I don't know do we want to keep going through Katie's things or do we want to talk about this right now I could finish these like few sub sections here there's not a ton I could go pretty quickly let's have you finish then we'll go this okay so obviously subsection three is pretty vague you guys can tell that that's vague that's up to you all um and I think I also look to see um I don't think that part is in the I think these are like um let me go back to 843 when when I remember looking I think those were like part of the asba edits and so oh no it's right there so it's here but then when I okay so whenever you're um looking at a statute it's hard to do this when you don't have access to something like this or a reporter is what we call them in the print form um but there's a thing called notes of decisions right here and so if you don't have like okay let me open this definitions okay there's two places you look for things in statute this says immediately dangers the health of some somebody right I'm going to the definitions thing for this statute no help there okay there's only two things that it's defining so I don't know what they mean here by immediately danger in danger the health or safety of others so then I have to go to notes of decision and when I got over here I don't recall finding anything about again immediately I think I searched for it there are no notes of decision about what that means so I think we're within our right to have like a subsection that clarifies what we mean by that I mean because there's been no decisions about what that means uh interestingly didn't notice this before here we go school district governing board has authority to impose reasonable disciplinary rules on students who use alcoholic beverages on school property on the way to and from school during extracurricular activities okay so a big duh there um otherwise like I said no definition no cases decided on that I think you guys could explain that probably a little better um when I looked through through this part I didn't see anything that was like something I needed to Define again excuse me if we go back to 8:43 this is coming straight from the statute but then again if you go to the notes of decision there's like nothing here that's going to help you with that okay another thing that we that I took note of is if you scroll down to the bottom here that's current through 2020 so like this was originally adopted back in 1981 it's obviously been edited many times I'm going to assume that this language hasn't changed very much so KY are you talking about number four I'm not sure where you're at yeah I'm talking about SE four and then the subsections under number four excuse me oh yeah I forgot to add page numbers let me do that real quick there we go done sorry okay so we're on uh we're on page two and then we're looking at subsection 4 and then all of those subsections so I obviously these things are these things are coming straight from the statute 15843 I think that there's room for for some movement there I wouldn't go too far a foul of it but I would say that if you want to expand or explain or clarify I think there's room for that um obviously Jessica or someone from our firm is going to be looking at whatever we adopt anyway and so it might be it's worth our your while to say what your thoughts are I think okay now we're at subsection C uh big letter C so there was a b and c okay failing to remove the pupil from the school buding would create a safety threat that cannot otherwise reasonbly be addressed or qualifies as aggravating circumstances no good question what does this mean um so again let me see here if you go if you look to the statute subsection three has this exact thing here now it gives you a definition of what aggravating circumstances is but it doesn't talk about what creating a safety threat that cannot otherwise be reasonably addressed means again I think we're in a position here to clarify or try to explain or Define in in some way that works for us but we just can't go too far foul because this obviously is a caveat that's in the that's in the statute it could be a good place for restorative practice language I think before suspending or expelling the pupil the school district or Charter School considers and if feasible while maintaining the health and safety of others in consultation with the pupil's parent or Guardian to the extent possible employees alternative Behavior disciplinary interventions that are available to school district charter school that are appropriate to the circumstances blah blah blah we all kind of know what this is about I agree Megan I think this is long um I think so we're going back here subsection four on the statute is exactly word for word that there's nothing that says we can't break this up or like um at least try to make it a little more I think you could make it a little more um consumable without as many words or make it a little less easier to read with the same meaning is what I'm trying to say it's a lot so whatever yall do there I think there's a way to say the same thing and not have it be so confusing um okay okay so I think I put this in here so again we're looking at statutory minimum here you can make it more expansive or more protective you could lower the minimum number of days or again this is for K through four um we and I guess we're referring this is where I was getting confused again because I had to keep going back to which subsection we were under because I kept getting confused if we were still under the K4 but we are correct that's why I was confused okay so no so you can't do grades but you could change like the number of days hold on let me change that okay alternative reassignment yeah great what are examples I mean I don't know what you all already have going on as far as alternative reassignments go so that would be an interesting conversation to have especially if that varies from campus to campus it very from campus to campus but often what it looks like is sticking a kid from one grade in the classroom of another grade and saying your stuff's on your iPad you look yeah I think that that's what the alternative reassessment in this paragraph is saying so when subject to Alternative reass reassign one sorry reassignment I think that that's actually talking more about like when we used to have Compass at our in our district yeah we would we would assign them to a new school or like let's say there was conversation of well if a kid gets um this didn't happen but there was conversation of like well when we during covid well if a kid gets suspended and we we have Craton virtual maybe they'll get they'll go to Craton virtual and that would be a change of assignment that didn't happen but like that's what that means that's not talking about like if they're like serving an ISS in a different room yeah I don't know if you guys know what B like bostrum high school is but like for example my brother yeah I mean he still like got sent to many of those so like it would be like want you he's been to Desert he's been to all of them but like he would get sent to those place he's lasted one semester at Camelback and then little journey through Phoenix Union at all these little schools so um I think that's that's how I read it as well I just didn't know if any what was going on I didn't think we had anything like that these days I didn't know if there was like something outside of the district that everybody used or no I think I've heard those referred to as alternative schools in our schools I've heard the phrase Alternative Learning program or Alternative Learning environment which is what I was referring to okay yeah and I think do do that Al we don't do this Al alternative placement yeah yeah so that might be something to like explain maybe we put a clar clarification in there that like if if it exists or if it is you know accessible that sort of thing all right moving on aggravating circumstances so this is the definition of aggravating circumstances it's exactly what's in the statute um that's where I commented um I think I think there's something to point out right like obviously none of this stuff is like easily defined and even in the statute if you try to figure out what does this mean as many times some of you have asked here there's no cases so nobody's gone as far as to Sue or be in a criminal proceeding or delinquency proceeding to where um a higher Court like an appeals court of appeals or Arizona Supreme Court has decided what some of these things mean more in a more detailed fashion and so we're just in the position of of interpretation right and so even those three subsections are up for interpretation right what conduct can constitutes preventing other students from learning or preventing a teacher from maintaining control of the classroom environment right um or what does it mean to be unresponsive and I think a lot of those things if we're looking at obviously through inequity lens are going to look different depending on how you're looking at these uh and depending on the student depending on the teacher depending on all kinds of things right so I just want us to keep that in mind um looks like J okay oh so I just said here this this felt like it could be flushed out somewh it could be added to it just feels kind of like okay make sure you have this um good question Megan not really anything for me to say here go ahead explanations start going working just because temporary removal and on down is now it's it's to everybody so I yeah okay yeah and then I can whenever you guys get to that because it's possible we don't get there today all right cool so let me put um a note in here where we stopped so I think the Dilemma is before we had very clear like at least I felt like you can justess with it like there was a lot more we could do on our own go paragraph by paragraph just ask the question if we want to change what people want to change and see yes I agree it's fine isn't that kind of what we were doing before I thought I ass yeah I just feel like we were originally putting like all our comments in and like being like yeah I agree with that I agree with that and I don't think some of the stuff we can change that yeah I I don't see a lot of hot pink basically yeah it's harder and because it's like do you even want to change it is the question yeah that's kind of so paragraph one uh is the pink highlighted text the stuff that she said is not actually in the in the statute so the first one is Allen's comment about the added text so the superintendent shall recommend policies all the way to 1583 she said kind just need to keep and then from these policies and procedures will apply all the I do not want to change anything I don't I didn't see any reason to change anything in that first paragraph yep and I looked at Allen's addition below and I think and I'm okay definitely with wording because I just threw it together but I just wanted to make sure that the guidance is that whatever the discipline policies are don't ignore the support side of the world because there's no policy for that there's nothing that's we're we're not there's nothing that we're working on that's telling the superintendent you need to have procedures related to that otherwise can I so one revision I'd like to say is with the understanding that student discipline can I say instead of saying does not always can I just say is is not guaranteed sure I'm fine with that this by the way that that thought is part was what my wording on Adriana's comment on the previous one was all about that's really what the research really says is that disciplinary actions don't change I'm just saying no I'm I'm clarifying I know you know what I meant I'm clarifying for and then the and then we can delete my comment because this is basically what I was trying to say but now it's covered by with with the understanding that student discipline is not guaranteed to have long-term impact on student behavior these policies and procedures um can we say are intended to instead of shall be developed to no because this is a direction to the superintendent right right the superintendent shall recommend policies and develop procedures and I'm saying those Pol well we're recommending policies but those those the developed procedures the superintendent needs to do ALS needs to I understand yeah yeah work t with positive behavior positive behavior behaviors or behavior behavior and support systems within the district yeah looks good to me I'm gonna go back and delete my comment because this covers that comment so we don't have to wonder why that's still there and you want to Poe to Allan's addition with grammar Corrections click in the check mark um anyone opposed to changing sex to gend sexual identity sexual orientation um I'll do the addition Katie I'm going to delete your comment about we'll upload to Google Drive too thank you sorry I got ambitious cool um Katie has a comment explaining the legal code which I'll just leave um May yep leaving Katie's comment for clarity so seven years of age or older Katie says I believe this age needs to be higher any opinions I disagree yeah I also disagree isn't there a law that's connected to that yeah so kind of what we were all saying there is a law like right now it's like if a kid basically if a kid is six you're not suspending him no matter what he does you're not suspending him because it does it he has to be at least seven and in practice are like are like seveny olds like um if we went any older we sorry we are struggling to like respond to certain kids behaviors that would in any other circumstance would warrant a suspension but because they're seven or they're almost seven or they're six we like don't do so if we went to like 10 there would be would it's things like um we had a 10-year-old on our camp is well he's he's a fourth grader but he's like about to be 10 he brought a fa and he was trying to get his friends to use it so if we put like those are the behaviors the kids are showing so if you go that high and it's like well we can't it's just like a yeah and I agree I think like even in if we are living in our Ideal World where we're fully staffed and we have all the people we need to do restorative projects and so on and so forth kid brings a VAP to school you got to suspend him for at least a day to talk to all of his friends and say hey if so and so comes back tomorrow with another Vape you're GNA say no and here's why right and most of our like to be honest most of the like close to seven or six the reasons that we're like we need to get them out of class is because they're like throwing things and running and we don't have time to make a safety plan so we're like we're chasing the kids as we're trying to talk about it so we're already struggling with it being a bar of seven you need time to develop safety plans you need time to contact parents to set of meetings I think that is often what those suspensions are used for take I don't I mean if it's not if it's not appropriate tell me but it is it because Katie put the comment and I know she's ex officio but I is it appropriate to ask what your thought process was and including that that opinion which one the one about the for suspension of K through 4 I don't know so here's the thing I've obviously I've never worked in an elementary school um so all my experiences in high schools I also don't know what studies or data shows right now about the collateral consequences and long-term impacts of suspending students that young and I feel like I would want to know those things before I made a decision that you guys are Mak well I think I me my understanding is that suspensions are pretty much universally bad for kids like when you suspend a kid they're out of school it's bad for them right um however just in terms of research it's pretty much impossible to measure the impact on other kids of suspending one kid right it's just like just in terms of research it wouldn't be possible to isolate that variable um it's a practical consideration not because theoretically if we had infinite staff you could whisk this kid away to a different environment you know um provide them with the support they need whatever but we don't have staff to be one-on-one with every single kid that does something suspension Worthy right I I agree with that because I I kind of like reiter a little bit what adri was talking about sometimes you you need time to go because of the lack of resources you need time to be able to come up with a plan I would be comfortable if if you wanted to have the conversation to talk about parameters around that but I feel like there's a lot of parameters in there I would be very hesitant to close the door on a topic excuse me on a on an option like that um for um as just like that's just not available like that would be that would make me a little nervous yep because I mean as it stands we got kids that are seven eight years old and it's like today they beat someone up tomorrow they're going to come back and beat someone up if nothing changes and we got to figure out a plan and it's not going to happen in 24 hours seems like that is a real practical consideration that happens in our schools every day it does it's happened this year yep yeah I think I think it's just really um obviously we know that suspensions have negative future consequences right and I I would assume just from the work that I do I mean just from like being in this sphere like that the younger you are you're going to get impacted exponentially especially if you get suspended at a young age the chances of you getting suspended again I'm guessing are pretty high okay like let's just be honest here right and if you're getting suspended repeatedly and or and or leading to an explosion but if you're just getting suspended repeatedly we know we're going down the road which the studies that I know I just don't know of specific studies with young kids but the studies that I know that obviously there's a correlation and and between suspensions and involvement future involvement in the legal system right but but that research only accounts for suspensions and not suspensions in in um intended thank I'll use my yes thank you for bring giving me my own word back but intended with those positive support processes yes which is why I my what I'm so grateful everybody was good with that paragraph that I added because I feel like that's that's that's the piece that allows the potential long-term negative impact of suspensions correct to to not be there because we're going taking time to do something proactive to hopefully actually lessen the Poss the potential of that recidivism it's when suspensions are where there's a high level of recidivism and there's nothing else happening and it's just we're assuming that we're we're punishing by getting by telling the kid you're not walking to be in school incapacitating them yeah no I think definitely I feel like your paragraph is helpful when I first looked at this I just wasn't sure what and to me it was that issue like well we just have them keep going home then nothing's going to change and we're just going to keep contributing to this it reminds me of the attendance argument know a kid comes late all the time and what do you do you punish the kid by suspending the kid and you're essentially you're you're not doing anything it's not the kids's fault that they're they're not coming to school and the the analogy here is and and I'm I'm going to make an assumption that if a six-year-old or a seven-year-old comes to uh has some real extreme behaviors or give you an example our kid that comes to threaten the school and uh has knows exactly where a weapon is that is on his father's um desk which is open and out there clearly the environment is not conducive towards a a healthy place for a child um and you're essentially by suspending them sending them back into that environment to rein force a lot of the beh and if anything Empower uh behaviors because of I'm just going to say it because of poor parenting um I don't I don't know the answer to that question um but I would say in a situation like that like that the Positive Behavior Support piece that that that's happening should be happening while this child's suspended because I I do think if they've made that clear threat and we really think there's the potential that he's going to show with a gun and do something we need to conduct a threat assessment we do have from our district for that to determine whether or not that threat really is what we think it is and then we can a safety plan like we need but we need time to do that while the school is safe right yes and um that's oftentimes like exactly what we're doing during Aion is the kid might come back to the room so we could do come back to like my office so we could do the threat assessment and I think in regards to what you were saying there's so many like for the K4 kids all of the other things like to be required yeah they are so like all-encompassing and and and they really are safeguards for kids yeah that um I don't think that we would I don't think that the concern of like that age is what's like gotcha so you have to a lot of things to check all these boxes yeah gotcha I mean we've had kids who literally they match every single one but they happened to still be six so we didn't suspend gotcha I I thought the age I thought the age was six I didn't know it was seven they I think they changed it recently it just changed it yeah didn't it change to six yeah oh no like they upped it to seven oh yeah oh okay I think they changed the grades I think they changed the grades recently for suspensions oh that that's true but yeah the age thing I think also they had somebody had introduced a bill trying to make it to where uh like a 5-year-old could potentially be suspended but that didn't that wasn't successful um sounds like we're not changing the age some resolving the com yeah so um the only other thing that I was curious about when I was hearing what you were saying Alan when it comes to safety plans or when it comes to like these kinds of interventions that happened during or before return to school um how much of that is like especially in these situations where you know I mean we there I think sometimes there there's bad parenting but I think a bad parenting is always is a result or La of a lack of skills and resources and so how much of our um safety plans and and return to school plans involve like parent education or dis or like engagement like let's say there isn't safe like weapon storage in the home is there a conversation being had like what does that look like I I would imagine that's not cons if it is it's not it's not that's it would be the exception not the norm in terms of that um but I also question the extent to which we intentionally teach the kids skills much less the parents skills too so I think that they're both important and maybe we maybe we need to build in some examples into my paragraph to help give some definition of some of those things which which will be fine yeah that's yeah go ahead Sim asking there have been times where we have asked can we require the parent to enroll the student in counseling seeing these things and oh yeah no you can't do that we can't for it upon yeah but offering it would be you can always offer it yeah and I think the same like offering some sort of parent resources or education materials or we we do we can offer it but yeah it's never been a part of like the plan like in order for this to happen you got to do that certainly well and I will say rarely in these circumstances as a parent come forward and say I just wish I knew how to secure my firearms have any resources it's usually someone who's unaware that they lack a skill and if you suggested to them may even be offended that you are implying a deficiency in their parenting right totally um I have a continuity question I think could I just add in to that just before we leave that thought is like having been somebody who did wraparound Services I think that's where your personal relationships come in and when you do home visits you're like in a position where you can have a conversation like hey like now we're in this position where like you potentially either like because this could also result in like a mandatory report right or you know so we're in a position where you are potentially going to get in trouble and I want to make sure you are not getting in trouble either moving forward um and so I I obviously this is like a bigger picture thing in terms of you know my gears are turning now about like District family engagement and education and that sort of thing but just that's at a macro level and then this is like at a micro level too and so I'm asking these questions and thinking about these things just to let you know like we my Minds at I know that that's not something we can solve in these paragraphs I just don't always know what it what is going on right now real great if we had social workers yeah it would be awesome um my continuity question is and I don't know if this is necessary but do we need to be mindful of the the language surrounding K4 I don't know I mean I correct me if I'm wrong but if you can't suspend a kid before seven years should we even include anything that is Kinder um well this the Pol or the excuse me the statute I believe has it in there know too many seveny old kindergart no but if if a kindergartener is retained one year they probably seven in kindergarten yeah and then if you look here at 15843 subsection K it specifically says kindergarten program first 2 third or fourth grade only a follow the following apply okay so if they're in those grades and they're seven years old got it okay thank you yeah moving along do we need to take charter school off where's that at right there in that paragraph oh Reed School District or Charter I think it'ses it's part of the statute and in our policy we don't really we're not in we're not we don't have oversight over the charter schools in our district so we don't need that in our policy it's just in the statute so yeah we could take out or charter school so it's not confusing wouldn't ever be an instance where we would have a charter school I don't no there wouldn't and yeah and the way that our state works so other states they like have over your District might have oversight over a charter school but that's not how it works in Madison has their high school whated there was a conversation years ago about having a charter high school that was kind of similar to the conversation that Madison um it was going to be located at excellencia uh but it never got off the ground okay and then just it's 6:30 so I just want to make sure we're respecting everyone's time is there anyone that has to leave at 6:30 today okay uh so the next one is uh Katie's comment about the following is a list of types of conduct the district can expel or out of school suspend but not required to is there anything thing we need to edit that goes along with that I'm at the bottom of page one hey I'm sorry um for pro potentially throwing a wrench into things I'm gonna delete that because Katie this is more your wheelhouse sorry I'm deleting that sorry go there is there was a bill that was passed signed by the governor in June of last year yep that made it that this stuff only applies if the suspension is over two days now where what Bill are you looking at I'm looking at House Bill 24 2460 which is all of the same stuff but says you know expulsion of a pupil K through four do not apply meaning all these criteria if the suspension does not exceed two days and the aggregate suspensions for the people do not exceed 10 days within a school year and you said that was from the 20 2023 session that is from June 2023 that it was signed by the governor on June 19 chaptered version because this what we are looking at looks like the previous version and they amended it to be that this stuff only applies for a suspension of over two days or an aggregate suspension of over days okay so gotcha accept is provided in subsection L okay here we go subsection K of this section does not apply if that and then two or 3 days so that's L1 and two so did we never get an updated policy for that looks like that is correct because I was aware of when that passed interesting I this is my own comment of something I found out over the weekend which I'll bring up but it sounds like there aren't actual Attorneys at this time reviewing policies at a SBA it's just people that work there so I'm concerned um so anyway that's a comment for later but um okay thank you for finding that let's see here so what I would say for our policy is that let's see okay so the district or Charter School is suspending the pupil for two or fewer days and the aggregate suspensions for the pup do not exceed 10 days within the school year let me add some language here and just to be clear subsection K of the statute is subsection four hold on is this part right here this is basically y hold on you're okay you're taking care of it yeah I thought there was a change and that's why I was confused too I knew I had heard of something but then I thought well maybe it didn't pass I'm trying to think way this here I'll open up the document again if you want to see it it says right here oh let me zoom out just a little bit there it's on the big screen the language if you want to look up at the statute language the new statute language yeah um I'm trying to think of just a way to word this unless a school May May out of school suspend 12 people who's enrolled in K through 4 this the for thee ceing doesn't apply or something like that since we don't have a [Music] subsection yeah okay do you mind adding that in Daniel hold up hey John could you because I don't I'm this language is confusing me I'm sorry it's been a long day thank you for finding that so people actually know mean yeah yeah we could put total you know went with 10 days it's in alignment with the special education protections oh that's smart well let's see who the sponsor was there you're good that was from pelli Bev pelli and Jennifer Pollock last session interesting Bev pellis and Poria I believe Jennifer poock and Chandler yeah because when that passed I saw the article I posted it and somewhere and I remember doing it and I was like oh maybe some of these kids will get suspended and didn't happen I see why well okay let me start there let me put this so a people who's in in fourth grade may only be suspended for more than two consecutive days is the following condition apply and then can we put in parentheses somewhere about the 10 days yeah 10 total days in the school year so are we this will this read as though like you can go over this if you want as long as you yes which is right that right that's what the the yeah the new law was intended to be yes if you're going past the just like in special Edge you're going past the 10th day there are certain things you need there are certain requirements you need to meet before you can actually suspend is also true for 504 um but and it's like if you're GNA want to try to suspend a kindergarten through four through fourth grader past the 10th day you still then need to meet or for more than two consecutive days you need to meet these criteria I'm use that Danel to I feel like we should especially for people who I see yes let them know a Kinder kindergarten through fourth grader can be suspended for up to two days yep yep you're going you are you correct um if people who don't so be in Orange for up to two days we decided orange instead of purple for this one for some reason oh I started typing orange so I wouldn't remember where mine was and my bad up to two days all the colors are confusing [Laughter] me all Maximum 10 12 days that's good does that make sense up to two consecutive days so I'm going to do a little bit we have this a school district and District across I'm going to change it to the school district because that's actually the entity that suspends yes the principales just do it on behalf of unless required by whatever bring blah blah blah the school district May out of school suspender expel people who enrolled in kindergarten fourth grade for fourth grade for up to two consecutive days or 10 total days in the school year people who's enrolled may only be suspended for more than two consecutive days or more than 10 total days in the school year if the following conditions apply Yep looks good to me I think you're right it's weird that we have that like ini the unless it's like oh real quick here but don't worry about that well and but that's because right the firearm piece is an actually the exception to the to the to the limits then yes and then my other wondering and we just as a comment and come back later since we're saying like you can do this for a K4 kid should we acknowledge that there are five eight kids in our district and put something about like you cannot suspend five fifth through eighth graders right doesn't it seem it does it seems very awkward that the policy is all focused on four through K4 and doesn't actually allow correct so that is I think and that's the one thing I was going to get to eventually but I didn't get to because if we stopped in the I was going to say obviously there's room here to add an entire section about what this entire procedure looks like for you know fifth through eighth graders we could just we could literally just put a line that says the school district May suspend or expel whatever students in fit through eighth grade that's like the bare minimum we should probably do in terms of dual diligence I we would do more than that but yeah AG okay so1 can we what are our thoughts of just putting dangerous instrument because as you spoke I felt like that probably obviously it doesn't if it's a firearm then it's already covered right so like the thing about the dangerous instrument is just like you know here I think that would be more expansive if you put dangerous instrument because that says it's just weird because the definition is either deadly weapon or dangerous instrument and they were a dangerous weapon so I don't really know what their intent was there if you put deadly instrument that's going to be like that's going to make it super broad well think so dangerous instrument anything under the circumstance which it is used attempt to be used or threaten to be used causing death or serious physical industry in injury that means if a kid has a pencil that is not a dangerous instrument but if a kid lunges for another kid's eye with a pencil it is now a d it's like how they are using it or intend to use it sounds appropriate for to me for this policy okay I think that would actually even be better than you missed our conversation about me um stabbing Megan in the neck with a pencil at a previous [Laughter] meeting and we wanted to add something about alcohol here oh yeah um you know what would be good language maybe is that thing that case that I found here hold on or that it was an attorney general opinion right here there you go yeah hold on where is it alcohol use um this right here I don't know do you want me to just copy and paste it in there and then you guys can Wordsmith it where should I drop it okay yeah I'll just put a there and then I will oops okay I'm just typing oh my goodness what am I doing I'm sorry yeah okay a oh that's a comma all right sorry there you go you all can deal with that all right I'm working on the the other the other part but I want you guys to look at that c that they are unless required paragraph um I actually rewrote the an intro to that to read for students in grades K through four unless required by AAR now the unless I think makes sense it's contextualized it's still an awkwardly long sentence you know um what we could do is just put you could just put involves The Possession use or sale of and then you could put alcoholic uh substances or substances containing alcohol and then we could delete the 2A because that other stuff seems like something you would put like at the beginning or the end of the policy you know what I mean yep I agree with that okay and we'll do we'll do an or this is a really weird sentence it has like five ores in it why a sixth one no big deal not you agre with it I had process can you put that back so that I can okay so like I just thought this was really wordy and I thought if we just put in substances containing alcohol up at the top and then if we want this wording somewhere we could like put it in another section because it feels like a weird place to have it because sorry sorry I know we were talking about multiple things how are you guys cutting okay I'm ready I think to go over what I've added in as soon as you guys are ready to move there this is a five minute warning so we can allow for time to clean up all right so um I think I think Nicole's still working on B2 okay B2 I thought it was 2A I'm not 2A includes B too okay oh right right B22 a got it there's too many letters and numbers p2a that's funny what is it um we're talking about removing the part that I just highlighted oh removing 2A yeah and just I just dropped it there for y'all to see the language it's an opinion from the attorney general it's something that could be put somewhere else in the policy because they added substances containing alcohol to the list of the things on number two yeah so what is it now so how it's changed is basically we're going to keep all the drugs they listed including marijuana but then we're going to Ure just because marijuana is like marijuana and like alcohol for adults right they still are going to be addressed in terms of our kids dis we don't want a kindergarten coming up with a marijuana joint right soaked and alcohol but we're not going to alol yeah maybe you change alcoholic substance alcoholic substances or alcohol like why not yeah is there is there a reason to say substances containing alcohol because I mean that would hold on let me look at that guess bring cockail so they use alcoholic beverages so the attorney generally used alcoholic beverages that is an opinion from 1989 But I me I I just didn't say beverages because I don't know alcoholic substance is there some other way to consume alcohol people these days that I'm not aware [Laughter] of that's true that's what I was trying to think of you could put it in other things I guess maybe in prison there is okay all right are there alcohol gummies I don't know rrolling up to Allen's language do a Tik Tok search there'll be other ways Hilda brought up um chocolates with alcohol in them there we [Laughter] go so so what I added which would now be a new paragraph four um on page oneing the the policies and procedures may allow for the suspension expulsion of any students as long as the measures as long as such measures are administered in a manner that is logical equital proportional and Progressive I see how I connected toward the other policy did I like that we got continuity and then then going into the next one then for students in grades K4 here we go those are that's now we start putting those parameters on the K4 just uh thinking ahead do uh so in case somebody wants to go ahead Beyond this policy uh do we want to like make a suggestion about what's going to be the next one to work on I want to be ambitious we still have let's get this done first well we're closing down are we yeah we're closing down but we still have quite a bit of this thing to go through um the temporary removal the confinment is everyone everyone table the rest of this policy yes is everyone cool with Allen's addition before we okay we're all go with that so maybe also you got y'all could review the rest of this policy before the next meeting then I think the rest of this will go pretty fast it'll go pretty quick so I mean given what James is saying I I guess we could have something on Deck what was the next thing we were going to look atess because were supp to get inform how people about the dress code opportunities to send us comments about the yeah so we had did we say that that was at the next meeting I just didn't remember what date meeting we had let's do dress code after this what's that what policy is that dress code jca is it j i c a a d r a okay - R A and then I did ask um did ask for Emily to include in the leadership links which is kind of like the email as um to the principal Vin principal people um that we were wanting to get information for people and that they should let their like and that was in last week's leadership website haven't seen today's yet yeah oh I um but yeah so that that did show up in there and excuse me comments to interest anything else for the good of the order before we move on to the final oh we we still have meeting schedule on there my bad many I think we just decided we would just check to confirm the next once we had made all those it was just okay everyone is still good for two weeks from now yeah yep okay so can I get a motion to adjourn motion to adjourn second I second all those in favor say I meeting adjourned thanks everybody next meeting is the
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[Music] good evening I'd like to welcome you to our Gilbert Public Schools regular board meeting for January 30th 2024 call this meeting to order and we'll start with a moment of silence followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led by Mrs humph thank you it's now time for our oh oh I I didn't realize it there he is sorry my my apologies we're going to do the pledge again everybody know should have looked to my right my apologies to you Mr Thompson uh we'll go to the Roll Call Mrs Wilson [Music] please here here Mr Chad Thompson here miss lorri wood here miss Jill humph here Madame President you have all members are present you have a quorum thank you Mrs Wilson we'll move to agenda item three approval of the agenda do I hear a motion to approve the agenda as presented so moved thank you Mrs humph a second a second thank you m wood so it's been moved and seconded that we approve the agenda all those in favor please signify by saying I I I nay 5 we'll move to the superintendent recognition Awards Dr McCord thank you madam president govering board members if you join me in front of the Das for this evening's recognitions my wife left me in our in our driveway and drove off about sorry we're doing a little counseling here good evening everyone how are you how are you it's Tuesday night this is the best show in town come on guys tonight we have a couple groups we want to recognize uh the first group is our spelling be winners okay um each year Gilbert Public Schools well each year every school holds a spelling be competition and then the winners from the schools come together and we have our yearly District spelling be competition and that was held last week and I got to tell you what it was phenomenal um we have some exceptional students within our district um and I'm just very proud of them so we have eight folks that we'd like to recognize tonight can I have all of our spelling be winners contestants up here first come on up that's you that's [Applause] you now is spelling easy look at them look at they're like you guys good evening no is it easy no no did you have to study for this no you know you can tell it wasn't the oratorical contest now I'm going to give you guys the microphone you need to tell me and everybody out there your first and last name what grade you're in and what school you represent okay ready we're going to start off with you this is just so you know when you get older and you have this is like me letting other people do the work just so you know ready all right go ahead I'm Dylan Hunt I'm in sixth grade I go to Point Elementary I'm Rea Singh I'm in fifth grade and I represent NE I'm Ava gasparo I'm in seventh grade and I go to Gilbert accelerated I'm Lauren agular and I and I'm in fifth grade and I represent giber Elementary I'm Natalie Baron I'm in e8th grade and I represent South Valley Junior High I'm meline Arnold in sixth grade and I represent Pioneer Elementary I'm a Colette I'm an e8th grade and I represent Highland Junior High now we did have a winner overall winner for our competition and Miss Singh do you want to tell us a little bit about how you won this competition honestly I don't know it just came to [Music] expound a little bit on not it was just an unexpected when I found out that I want I was like is this real is this reality how is it possible what word were you given your final word to win the competition you remember fluide say it again fluoride can you spell that for everybody f l u o r i d fluoride wow there it is [Applause] congratulations all of these young men and women up here are able to go to the regional spelling be which is February 16th at 9:00 a.m.
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2024-01-31 Wells County, IN YouTube / BHMSD TV transcript source: youtube Overwatch Week 9 · passage 1
[Music] ah [Music] [Applause] [Music] o [Music] n [Music] up [Music] up [Music] [Applause] [Music] yeah [Music] hello welcome to week nine of the ihen competitive season season today we have exciting matches between our Academy Cy Tigers who are going to be taking on Pike high school and then the main event you could say Varsity cyber Tigers going up against wob bash OverWatch competitions are best of five matches going through the following game types control escort push and hybrid all right I'll take the first uh explanation today's control map is ilos control is a game mode where two teams fight over a capture point in a best of three format while a team has control over a capture point the team will gain capture percentage until they reach 100% And the team that reaches 100% first will win the round and it's a first to two overtime will be triggered if one team has reached 99% and the point is currently being contested this game mode does not have a time limit unlike other game modes you want to take over the next one all right uh the next map is it's escort and the map is circuit Royal escort is a game mode in which the attacking team must escort a payload to a delivery point while defend while the defending team attempts to prevent them until the timer runs out each map has three checkpoints between the starting position the delivery point when when reached will increase the timer and move both team spawn locations overtime will be triggered if time runs out while the payload is being contested by the attacking team declare the start oh y you didn't read the script beforehand nope I mean I just came here it's okay for this particular uh round the Cyber Tigers will start on the attack next up is the push game mode on esperansa push is a game mode released on alongside OverWatch 2 in which two teams fight to escort a robot who pushes a barrier objective to the opposite side of the map each map has two checkpoints along with the objective path when a team escorts the robot past the first enemy checkpoint their spawn is moved up to forward spawn if neither team reaches both checkpoints the team that pushed their objective the furthest wins over time will trigger if the team with less progress has a possession of the robot when time expires we'll take on this one okay then if we have a tight match uh uh peraso will be the hybrid game mode which starts with the assault capture point and continues with an escort objective once attacking once the attacking team captures the initial Point both teams will spawn locations are moved to the payload then unlocked and players must escort the payload through two checkpoints to win overtime will be triggered if time runs out while the payload or capture points being contested by the attacking team uh would you like to read the sponsors now we got one more statement for the final match in the event of a two on two tie the for the winner deciding match will go to Oasis all right I believe the first match is underway yeah here we go we got yeah spectating Eli here the tank of the JV nice comb the junk trying to get that junk R yeah getting close oh oh JV 100 to Z yeah mean good today yeah meanwhile yeah while we were explaining all the match types seems that the JB has taken the first point of the match good stuff now that they're in a little bit of an intermission we can read some sponsors do you have a favorite nonprofit that could use an awesome fundraising idea auction it is an online and in-person auction platform that can help your nonprofit host a great Charity Auction find out more at auction.io that's auction.io Adams Adams Wells thank you to our sponsor Adam Wells internet Telecom TV your local service provider with JG Speed Internet TV and telephone services for business and residential customers in Adams and Wells County and the final sponsor very special thanks to the Wells County foundation for a special grant that allowed us to purchase the computer this stream is currently running on without their support we wouldn't be able to provide the quality programming you are now enjoying huge thank you to Wells County Foundation all right we got the second round of the match going on guy up playing Reaper yep going after the team fading in looking to go through the back line going for the Moa almost picking up the kale but she Fades away ooh getting picked off by the hog rough now spectating the captain Aiden he's playing Genji yeah Aiden yeah Aiden and the tank of the lineup Eli such good Synergy I've been playing OverWatch with them for years they know each other in and out they're the D damic Duo it's like Batman and Robin without a doubt yes if Batman was Batman and if Robin was also Batman yeah but I I've played with them a few times um in games and obviously in practice and they they just work together so well it's like they just read each other's minds and they just works together perfectly yeah great Synergy for the team that's our tank Eli getting the kill on I believe that junkrat deflecting a lot here we go The Shield goes out from Sigma they're doing a pretty good job on defending the point oh oh it's paused what interesting the game has been paused I'm assuming for good reason let's hope 0 and five 0 and five for those who don't know I've tried to commentate four different matches and all of those matches have been can yeah I'm I'm 0 and four looking to make it one and four finally but the match has been paused it's kind of worrying well while we have a little bit of an intermission uh let's go over to the room View we have been eager to display the room oh ah seems like the opponents have disconnected probably due some to some Wii issues yeah apparently the opposing team has disconnected interesting all right that let's just hope it's temporary yeah hopefully it will be temporary that view is looking very blurry oh there we go hi Joo we got that they're on the left you can see the whole team yeah we are going to see how this situation develops all we know right now is that the opposing team disconnected we don't know if the match will continue or if it would be a disqualification type of deal which is what happened last week if I'm not mistaken right yeah we will see oh hold on cut back to the game The Game's unpausing the game is back we're spectating ker who's playing Ki a really good support who I just unlocked yes the support of this team I've been so impressed Eli the tank of the tank of the squad has such a like explosive Reckless play style yeah which Conor can just cover for like it's no problem yeah he's allowed to play like that specifically with a hero Reinhardt that's the one I'm thinking of but it's not the one that he's currently playing yeah the tanks the support on this team so impressive as a former support main I have to show appreciation and respect for that here we go they're pushing the opposing team to the spawn our cyber tiger JB looking good Aiden getting his Dragon Blade all which if depending on who their other depending if that's can get ult in time they can do nanoade which is a very deadly old comp yeah he's in a position for a potential surprise ult Here Comes Jacob with the sadly only picking off the Lucio but still a support dead is a support dead that helps so much ooh nanoade coming in killing the Bastion ooh killing the sigma but then Aiden dies Aiden coming in with the road hog all right that is okay I do want to talk about that death Blossom Alt from Reaper it is so lethal at any time Reaper could just swoop into your backline and just destroy yes it's so lethal it's so worth mentioning and by the way another thing worth mentioning that is a round one victory for the JV cyber Tigers good job very good let's see who gets that play Ja going be Jacob oh this is the beginning of the match yeah like it's produced from round one of the matchup in the backline just picking people off which is probably like one of the best things Reaper is that's probably the best thing he is just picking people off and just like nicking damage for the tank and like I guess another support to just kill yes great competition from Pike high school we are fortunately able to pull out the victory in round one four more potential rounds to go but this is a a best of three our cyber tigers are on track for a victory but I want to ask you something whenever you mentioned earli that you were a former support man who did you uh play when you played support I was an Anna guy you played Anna yeah that's actually who I wanted to play whenever I first started because I thought healer sniper just sounded like it just sounded cool yeah back when I was new to the game when I was playing on Nintendo switch you can imagine how good I was uh yeah the motivation for becoming an Ana player was because my good friend Eli wanted Nano boost that is the motivation it's valid too yeah all right here we go second match starting up we're excited to see how this one is going to turn out it's the escort map circuit Royale let's see how the team will comp in this round let's hope they do pretty well told how often we're supposed to sponsors I think we could just go for it this is always a good time I mean we already read all the sponsors so already did well we read them multiple times in case new viewers come in you know Fair Jacob playing soldier 76 one of my favorite uh DPS of all time he's he's very basic but that's like I guess what makes him so fun yeah he's basically the Mario of this game yeah I'd say him and I guess like Reaper like the covers yeah we have Jacob just playing with tires exhilarating gameplay here while everyone else is going out to theend but because of the Sprint Soldier can just get there and like as fast as any like he's one of the fast in the game because he's the only one that can Sprint yeah he's still GNA arrive to school a little bit late you know he's coming here all right let's switch over potentially to someone else we got Eli with the Reinhardt gameplay King to break with the fire strike here he comes this is ooh charging killing the junkrat big kill this is that Reckless explosive gameplay that I was talking about already just app just is that a nope not a team kill okay so early on play potential that's the kind of gam playay that Eli can just get away with because of our supports mhm the tank yeah that is the end of the sentence But Here Comes the enemy team looking to bounce back Jacob picking off people from the rooftop getting the kill on the life Weaver while Eli strikes and kills a junkrat seem to be getting the advantage in this fight very good TK yes good tanking from Eli good soldier sniping from Jacob just all around pretty good team comp yes we're looking impressive but it is not too late for pike High School to mount a comeback let's see if our cyber tigers can hold them off if they just get one good all off it can completely change the size of the game which is it can happen at any point in a game like OverWatch yeah anything can happen I've had matches like these where one team just it's like it looks like one's just on the losing foot and then boom they pull off the win yes on the ropes and then just do some crazy random ult that just gets like three members yeah happens all the time let's see if it's going to happen here got Jacob on that balcony Jacob having really good aim mhm Aiden Aiden's so lethal with the reaper Kinder doing damage with Zen which he's probably one if you have really good aim Zen can honestly be one of the best damage dealers in the entire game yeah Z such a good support such a good damage if he could pull off head shot just put just do Discord and then it's a free kill pretty much yeah he does have Transcendence which at any point in time if they use the hello crazy wereit sorry I kind of cut you off yeah if they use Transcendence at a point like uh depending on like who they're using uh o Aiden with the death Blossom picking off three there we go there's that get the he gets the four or oh no T stole it wait no ker stole it i' I've been saying it this entire time Reaper such a valuable asset he can just work he can you can have like the most like random of like uh people on a team just throw Reaper and it can just work so well together yeah one second you're making the push of the life the next second you're staring at a kill cam yeah that's the kind of game provides Aiden using the spawn point just to push them off and then he can just teleport away if danger There He Go is about to say risky position but he's able to teleport out of there we got ker ker having Transcendence which can use at any point time if they just need a ton of just quick healing Jacob has unfortunately been Tak out this killing the tire which is so huge for our team yeah that tire could have been the gamechanging factor that we were talking about could been makeer break Eli coming in oh unfortunately not be going to kill him oh shatter in the spawn the disrespect the shatter in the spawn oh oh the tank trying to fight back yep which doing what a tank should obviously do Aiden going back to that side point looking to do something just getting a little chips off just so we can get a little bit more Al charge which can help at any point in time especially with reers passive to heal with damage MH round one complete good job all right this is not the end of the round though we still have the Cyber Tigers attack push to see if they can win in this round as far as we know this team is just only good at defending yeah let's see all right we do have a good intermission point I think this is a good time for some sponsors do you have a favorite nonprofit that could use an awesome fundraising idea I'm sorry if you're hearing this for the second time but auction it is an online and in-person auction platform that can help your nonprofit host a great Charity Auction find out more at auction .io that's auction.io I don't know why I'm looking at the camera no one's seeing me uh we'll save this for after this round all right yeah I believe about to say I believe same back Jacob oh he's playing Reaper which is his main from what I I guess know from what I understand yeah and we got Aiden the captain of the squad going for his main Genji he actually has a lot of people are playing their Mains is what I realizing the only one I guess that sticks out is kind of Kinder and F but their Mains are I guess interchangeable yeah let me tell you something about Aiden he's so committed to Genji I made him a AI generated Genji profile picture for his Discord that's crazy that's what he uses I made that I didn't make that I told a computer to make that but without you the computer would not have made that so you helped yeah same thing with my Discord profile picture and Eli oh picking off the kill on the Bastion such a huge kill for Eli who's playing Ryan witch bashing could just be such a hard counter with the shield up especially if they have another Ryan the Eli train pushes them back for the victory Oh I thought the match was gonna okay yeah I forgot how this game works yeah I thought it was G to be like a full on Match but I guess not Kinder having the play of the game let's see Zen the Zen play I was expecting it to be that BL yeah I thought it was going to be like either the the death Blossom Kinder just picking off people in their own is just amazing and just you can't even walk out with these guys playing what a Play What a highlight for ker with the Zen game play just amazing all right 20 right now we're looking good one more victory for the JV cyber tigers and that's going to be the match one all right let's get the sponsors going thank you to our sponsor Adam Wells internet Telecom TV your local service provider with gig Speed Internet TV and telephone services for business and residential customers in Adam and Wills County yeah and the other one that we neglected to say during the start up of that last round very special thanks to the Wells County foundation for a special grant that allowed us to purchase the computer this stream is currently running on without their support we wouldn't be able to provide the quality programming you are now enjoying and if we do win this game we will come to I guess the highlight of uh what most people are here for that being the varsity players yeah the varsity players well no matter what the result of this next match it's going to be H going to the varsity game yeah five is five is the time for Varsity I don't know why why I did this five is the time that's fine whatever I do a lot of weird hand gestures me too all right yeah let's see if the JV cyber tigers can close the book on this one currently waiting in the matchup room but let's kind of let's talk about I guess like what's I guess their team comp um you guys haven't seen it but uh thy has been the Anna who has been supporting kills from behind um especially with the it's not deadly in its own sense but it's deadly when paired with something like uh Genji's Dragon Blade to uh just completely power it up it can go from like a 7 out of 10 Al to a like 11 out of 10 with just one Nano yeah if it weren't for people like tesley this team would not be able to prosper without those kind of heals and just damage boost with nanoblade especially she's uh only been playing Anna so far but she does play mercy and she's also a surprisingly good battle Mercy yeah any everything Tess brings to the table such a valuable asset what you mean with a game like OverWatch like you can get rid of just one person and an entire team will just crumble yeah that's why people Target the supports that's the found found of the team you get nowhere without heels yeah but with the new update like everyone's getting passive heals so yeah pretty much makes the tank and DPS the most valuable the supports are just there for I guess extra healing in the next update yeah we're going to see how that will affect the Cyber Tigers yeah but we've also been shown to adapt to new patches whenever they do come out mhm still waiting in the matchup area let's occupy a little bit more time can we switch over to that oh never mind match starting I was about to say switch over to the room view for people who might have just recently joined but the match is beginning you know a fun fact about uh like how like they have their game mode would like to know fun fact if so you as you know you can only have one tank uh two DPS and two healers and um in a game mode like this if you uh switch on attack you cannot you it's like you locking attack on a normal game meaning like let's just say somethingone like this uh their starter was a tank like whenever like do spawn and if she accidentally pressed a tank she would have to be tanked for that round and she cannot switch which can it's never happened before obviously but if it does happen it would be funny and very tragic it would be very interesting I've never heard of that one all right let's look at the team comps we got Tess back with her classic Anna gameplay we got Jacob with the junkrat we got Aiden with here we got Aiden with the Genji Eli who is that oh here comes Eli with the wrecking Wrecking Ball the wrecking ball is coming out it Eli's wrecking ball is without a doubt the best I've ever seen it's so valuable especially in a game mode like this if you're trying to stall Eli can provide the Stalls that you need for pretty much anything and he he's just he knows balls kits he knows it just so well yeah the first thing he did bowl over like half their team that was crazy forisa the orisa though orisa get the orisa which is a pretty big counter to a tank like ball pretty big counter to almost all tanks definitely a top tier tank in this meta yeah she's always been good even in OverWatch one before her rework yeah let's see if the orisa can Hoist the flag takes off the far which is so it's just such a great kill mhm oh going for the mercy if he could get the mercy that would be huge there go already um Eli stalling out the opposing team got picking off the mercy wit amazing and he then he gets the Anor that is both supports down if you could get the junk with the junkrat two very good looking to finish off the orisa here can do it she's out of utility never mind he has to he has to back off off which smartest decision if that was me I probably would have just tried to go for the kill yeah and as you can see we are about at that first checkpoint there is having his Al which can be very valuable in a game mode like this yeah Eli's wrecking ball doing what it does best oh oh placing on the mines here we go orisa eating most of those up which is the smartest thing any like a tank like this can do run through and either just tank or use your utility to just uh get rid of it yeah very good play from he gets the mercy just barely good stuff all right we got about half of the team staying near the objective we got Aiden pushing in killing off the B as I said earlier that dynamic duo the dynamic duo come on will he will Aiden be able to pick up this far or will that be Eli Eli gets nope Aiden looking to take out their spawn do what he did in one of the last games putting off the deflect just to protect himself will he will we see a dragon blade yeah he's got it oh almost almost gets taken out by total Mayhem if you don't know junkrat has an ability that when he dies he just drops a bunch of grenades which it's very funny when you get a kill like that it's very funny I love it whenever I get a kill with I almost got a team kill with it one time that was my play of the game just dying expert maneuver yep dying oh the back window ooh deflecting what was in the back window which will double the damage yeah the B Window doubles the damage and with that reflect just sends that damage right back so the back window was it it was smart but they didn't know that Aiden had deflect yeah it was smart but Aiden with that Genji gameplay gonna finish off who gets play the game let's see Eli would play the game The Hamster oh oh oh wait oh wait cut oh oh oh he's going to be real disappointed Eli all right well the JV cyber Tigers going to pick up the victory big victory here early on in SE them yes incredible job and now it is so far that means we are undefeated right the JV is undefeated yes speaking of undefeated The Varsity yeah who has all in all throughout uh The Fall season and currently the spring split has been undefeated in every game with I'm pretty sure three 0 yeah huge title contenders for state championship which we're going for I guess another win which why wouldn't we yeah here we go setting up the game it's looking like we got everyone in the lobby it's just a matter of waiting I kind of want to talk about the varsity with I I've seen them play um they they play so well it's like if one of them like let's just say for example Leon was playing Genji and let's say uh Lily was playing Anna by time like the minute Aiden not Aiden the minute Leon would uh like be set up for a nade and like gets it like Lily already knows it's they're just on a whole another level of communication and I guess just skill yeah yeah I have not seen much gameplay from The Varsity I am looking forward to it I do know some stuff about a couple of these players specifically people like Caleb and Noah just jacks of all trades like I believe Caleb being very decorated in OverWatch and Tetris Noah very decorated in Smash Bros and OverWatch uh I'm pretty sure like from what I've seen uh in I guess the early um the early games of the um fall season it was mostly Lan tank Noah and Mack as um damage and then Lily and Caleb on support but it seems that they're kind of completely they're changing Leighton and uh Max roles which they still work very well together they can both play tank or damage if need be yeah all right here we go cyber Tigers versus W bash they have o malga which is such a he's too good yeah he's been really good pick up the kill oh there comes thege almost gets hit with the malga charge into the hole which which would have been very bad yeah there was that dying Caleb playing Lucio which is a very good uh heal on this map with just being able to throw into the hole Noah playing Bastion his main Noah with the Bastion gameplay Bastion so he sticks can you get the kill yeah Bastion basically a tank with a Gatling gun on it you can just tell from that description how crazy Bastion is all right we take the first point ooh luckily hitting that uh sticky Grenade on the floor which was able to Nick I think Malo getting the hch on the Lucio midair very impressive very we got Mac with the sigma oh getting not being able the go eating all the bullets from malga which will give him so much Shield yeah big boy shield with that absorption oh the Moira Al coal Essence can be very deadly in a time like this whenever people are low and especially if they have a shield tank which it'll just go through Shield Here Comes Noah with the Gatling gun oh here comes Mac Oh Mac having uh flux which can be very lethal with um a player like Noah whose aim is very good yeah that sort of combo it can just shred through a team oh and if know what times his Al right as soon as they get slammed down and they can't block he can use his Al and just nuke the field yeah Wabash pushing our cyber Tigers back to take the point no get the kill on Reaper he switches his Target to malga Rocket jumping up to the point bounces up and we switch over to Mac back to Lane with the nanoblade just killing just going on an absolute Rampage it's just too good of an Al combo that was about half their team gone in that fight we're going to take the point back looking to close out the first round killing the Moira can he get the reap Reaper o he barely phases out I think Leon will probably just go for the reaper because as you were talking about earlier that one Reaper or can alt can just uh make or break a game the dash through the room gets a kill oh Leon with the Genji going crazy let's see how this pans out going for the Moira Reaper coming in he might try to um death blossome seemingly not Reaper very low Health yeah we getting close to fully captur the first goes into the One V one with the malga but luckily the game ends right there that could have ended insanely bad for Lane they also tried to combo with May so they would have been frozen so the malga could just had free reain to kill everybody yeah very good competition there in the first round that was a lot of fun to watch they they could have probably lost there if they if they were at like a lower percentage they like they just would have been gone yeah very possible oh what are you two doing doing interviews what are you two doing what are you doing here going on hi what are you're not you're not on screen Boos are we interviewing no what are you doing I'm chilling okay hell okay we are joined here um on the sides Aiden and Eli Mike is being picked up the dynamic duo Eli and Aiden that's what I was calling you guys on the commentary dynamic duo I was calling you guys the dynamic duo and Robin yeah I described you as Batman and Robin if Batman was Batman and Robin was Batman wait so who was Batman both both that's the joke who was robing no one no one that's the joke Noah playing Bastion let's see how do yeah let's go to the match going to me oh he's playing doomfist which could just be an annoying tank what are you guys doing you to say something interesting commentary here we got Mac with the doomfist can be very lethal very lethal and just overall very annoying depending on uh who else you have on your team we take the first point can you get the malga oh he barely hits the malga but sadly he gets stunned too the block absorbing some damage there oh I noticed that arari pillar allari such a good healer and damage in this game as long as you just hit your shots which as long as specifically you got that right you can't say last names you can't you can't yeah you can't say last names we can't I've been doxed how could this be oh trag the joke doesn't work it's a it's an inside joke no picking off a few head shot he get him oh sadly he dies all right this game looking pretty even right about now deflecting some of the malga getting heals from play Caleb okay yeah Caleb's SPS in all right lane just in the top just picking off as much damage as he can to farm that old charge to get dragon blade speaking of which he's almost got it a few more hits and it's as good as his Noah getting a good pick Noah not Noah late in getting Dragon Blade which can oh that's a kill looking to take out the entire support line can he oh and then with the help of Caleb he does get the malga there we go very good fight for us we got Mac I I think he's looking to take some their Rogue members by surprise here he comes coming in for the doomfist sadly he just Fades away just get that little scare gets that little jump scare yeah what no mic why are you giving us the mic how we turn it off you know I don't know just put it over there is it on I don't know one of you guys put it over there please we got the Mac gameplay we got Leighton going crazy on the Genji today o it seems that of those five kills of that team kill Noah did get three of them I believe that was a 3K from uh yeah Noah all right four of our team members have alt Noah having his turr his ultimate sticky bomb kill which those are honestly very satisfying to get his Bastion yeah o oh is that a top what is that Caleb with trans Transcendence which helps us and everywh Noah oh the air strikes who's he going for going for the allari he gets and then he picks off the kill good stuff taking the MAA going into T form spraying them out oh getting the reaper battle on the point Noah putting in work with the aim on the junkrat which is absolutely amazing getting Nan and that is round one to the Cyber Tigers good stuff are you guys staying here what's going on okay you're staying we have four commentators here for an interview like whole thing is done okay ah all right o Noah actually getting play of the game let's see this specifically specifically the captain the Batman of the Batman and Batman group oh it was at the very end whenever he gets that junk sending him up without being his downfall don't say that out loud okay but um yeah I think we are going to we could probably get like a mini interview while the varsity is setting up their next match do you still have the mic where is it it's over there oh you just put it over there um but we are here joined by The damic Duo the Batman and Batman um that's a great question I we're just hoping it's on maybe it's on maybe it isn't should I stay or should I go I don't know why I said that what's the question um but okay how do how do you guys think the enemy team played um in just all the rounds in general well okay more specific hey is this mic on we don't working on it okay working on it okay interesting nice thank you for the most part they played all right um with how the match went though you know I can't really say terribly much but other than that they did pretty well do you guys think it could have been just like a bad day for them or maybe it could have probably been just a really we've we've had bad days too where we've just like not played good yeah you can probably more accurately discuss this as the captain of the JB how do you feel that your team has been doing really well really well I think our team has been doing really great um there is some parts that we could be doing better but we are currently work on that would you uh mind I gu telling the audience like what you think uh the JB team could work on um just aim just in AIM in general just aim and I guess movement maybe yeah a little bit more movement but other than that our communication has been great with all our matches and um other than that yeah very nice very nice MH okay uh that will be all for this interview unless Eli would you like to uh discuss something things you want to say some words want to say words that are more than well no okay um both of you have a nice day okay yeah thank you for the interview great match looking forward to more of it next week let's go back to the varsity game we got Max staying on the Doom going in oh getting speared by the Arisa not you oh barely missing the Anna bye Batman and Batman let's see how L will perform on souljour with his aim oh B having the immortality field which can just be a huge counter if it's not in the line of fire with how Weighton was with The High Ground yeah set a little note here he the healers hard at work they don't get much action shown but they are so valuable yeah oh m going in see all right went in for a little bit just that little itty bitty slam and then gets back out that's what doomfist is so good at going in getting a little bit of damage maybe even kill lay at 8 HP barely hanging on by a threat of his life healer's getting him back up but he's still under Fire oh Noah getting hacked by the Sombra let's see Sombra TPS away oh let's see how can perform under this type of pressure with being just the one to solo the t o getting the head shot wait no that wasn't headshot getting the kill on the soldier he's sleeping which they could have taken advantage of good stuff oh he get 14U good stuff him having his ultimate which is just pretty much just spamming left clicks for just piercing shots which can be very deadly especially with a team like uh theirs who seems to just stick together like Lou yeah getting the kill Le getting taken out there oh Mac Mac getting some kills in the back line distracting their entire team him having uh his ultimate to just get out of any situation and deal some damage oh speaking of ALS almost picking off the kill on Mac that big slam low Health oh if he did not get hacked right there he definitely could have pick off the kill that's why somber can be so important in times like this she can prevent you from healing from Health packs if you're a dive character and just get get rid of the abilities which no which makes her the get out of there picking off the kill the Anna and getting the somber low for line L to kill so much to talk about in that fight in such a short amount of time Noah imagine if he hit that the world war hit that oh barely missing off the head shot getting the head shot doing massive damage Leon doing tons mhm to the enemy team yeah in that in that instance where the orisa got bailed out by the somra and then they took out Ma that was such good team coordination from ww bash so as in great somber gameplay so instead of it's it's like the same situation with um Aiden and Eli uh with Leighton and Mack they're just they're just always on the same wavelength of each other mhm Noah picking off damage very well in the tight space that he's P kill the Bastion very huge such a valuable person to kill the Zen Zen which is very very bad as of right now going behind let's see if he can pick up kill Lan is old to just spamming left click let's see how well he can do oh getting off the hit oh killing the Anna which can be so huge um an making big plays big plays this entire game he's been going crazy on damage there we go nice amazing from l k getting so many head shot right there his aim is amazing the Bastion peing out and just spraying and praying getting the cheeky kill on the Moira who tried to get on the uh Left Flank yeah Leighton just in a different Universe right now just in a different state he's reaching into that next level uh that would be 20 for the varsity as of now not over yet not over yet I forgot about that I need to I need to I have a memory of goldfish I need to fix that it's okay cyber Tigers going to be on attack this round Leon looking like it's going to stay with the sojourn staying with the doomfist for Mac let's see how well the team um comps oh it going for the brig Brig is very fun is what I is what I've at least come to realize she can be very fun but also very stressful at times yeah you don't you don't see Brig that often but if someone can play well it's very it's very scary and dangerous so lethal Lily on the KIRO which can be very um move towards yeah but Lily playing KIRO which as we saw um last game whenever Lane was anti whenever Lane was anti he uh the suzu just carried which gave him ey frames for immunity and yeah invincibility frames yeah which was very very helpful in that situation which lane could have died and that could have changed something because he was going very um he was doing very well in genj yes I do want to talk a little bit more about that Zen Al called Transcendence he basically just turns into the Sun and heals everyone in that vicinity such a valuable ult just invalidates anything that the opposing team tries to do it's so important that's why I think I should mention it Mac going with the doomfist gameplay he already gets a kill just going in going in Hog Wild did you know that Zenyatta is actually based off of a Buddhist culture it's either Buddhist or Hindu culture Queen flip yeah I mean it's one or the other I'm not 100% sure cuz I'm not well versed in any of those uh religions and or cultures yeah you know Mac with that uh I talked about this earlier in the JB game with Eli that explosive style very Reckless dive into the entire enemy and hopes something happens once again got once again got bailed out by the Healer yeah which is also a way how you just play doomfist he's just meant to just rush up and just smack as many people as he possibly can yeah good fight that's going to end in another victory for the Cyber Tigers 2 one more match Victory will put their opponents away o weon getting the play of the game as expected let's see oh it was right here getting the Anna picking off the Bastion can he get the does he get the ooh jumping up into the slide there we go yes such so so far just unbelievable gameplay from l in Varsity has been playing it's from what I've been seeing it's probably one of their better days playing like they've just been playing like so coordinated hitting a lot of very valuable shots uh timing when it's very necessary yeah they've been doing great this is um I also notice that they are they're also they're swapping in uh one of their subs uh Chris and for Lil which we'll see how that changes the game with whoever he picks as healer this is going to be interesting and as I was going to say this is something I think the JV team could try that I've noticed the varsity OverWatch team do they have one person like yell out a time that they're all going to push in then a countdown 3 two one they all go in I feel like that could be something valuable yeah to bring to the JV here we go waiting for this game to start we're getting Chris subbed in getting that work done it seems that yeah PE subbing in for Lou I thought they were subbing him in for K here we go game starting new Queen Street this could be the final match of the night this map is also just very fun and enjoyable to play on it's it has good scenery which um I personally just never get sick of when I play on it and I like the robot mode it's one of my favorites it's very fun yeah you know I wish I wish we could respond to the chat you see the YouTube chat up in that uh top left area would be really fun to engage yes we have Chris on Anna which it seems like not much have changed we're just not getting a Ki we'll see how that affects with Leon on the junkrat and Noah on the Bastion yeah I was about to mention Leighton going with the junkrat game play let's see how he plays junkrat how well he can play this crazy maniac yeah he also resembles Lon a lot he's their personalities match up very well they're both very crazy in interesting statement wait hold on oh switching the Tracer he must have heard that he was offended he to take it back yeah here we go we got uh some players like Noah and Max stay in the same characters it's it's good to I guess you know be very well versed in one character and just like you know have their kit uh memorized to a tea but it's also good to have diversity like Eli mhm or if just you know have here comes Leon into the back line he's got a team on him giv his cyber Tigers an opportunity to push in while the other team is distracted getting the turret let's see how well he can perform with his very low HP getting the soord oh getting hit by the spear which could have been very deadly and there's that recall where Tracer rewinds time to get some health back it's 5 Seconds unless theyve nerfed it which as far as I I know it is 5 Seconds whatever just base explanation he rewinds time and gets help back yeah let's see will he get hit with the microwave AKA symmetra turrets yeah I saw that is that some symmetra turrets Here Comes Lucio Lucio oh he's got discs off the Lucio which was very like without um oh getting off the all accidentally killing himself with his own all very tragic crazy play gets that first kill with help from the Discord orb from Zen very good stuff Caleb with a good play I personally don't think he would have gotten the kill if it wasn't for the Discord yeah I don't think he would have and then that bomb kills himself and his opponent which I guess it's manageable if it was a support oh Mac facing off with the Moira and it seems like some other members of the team yeah we see some fires getting awesome picks blocking just so he can power up his own fist even more mhm got Caleb lobbing some shots Here Comes Mac smacking them into the wall blocking with some action strike let's see how who can he pick off let's see o Mo phasing out at the exact time that bait out gameplay just standing still wanting him to take the jump and then teleports away very intelligent play from which also I saw the uh Lucio popped his old I saw the green shield so that means Lucio popped his old W the that probably means only the moir would survive that and whoever else was in the uh in the vicinity of that all would have just died well Caleb with the Zen alt I was talking about it earlier it's faded out now but he's got some action going way getting the kill oh no it was actually Caleb who got the kill on the Lucio with the melee Here Comes Leighton going in and out Tracer specialty that's another Zen kill let's see o yeah the opposing doomfist getting picked off who did heom he strapped it to Lucio very very valuable espe especially with um oh oh the 4K going crazy Absolut he's doing very well but also sticking uh the bomb to someone like Lucio who's typically like right next to his teammates at all times is very just smart and I guess valuable to the team yeah you know it's not fair whenever I play Cher I can't land a bomb I don't know how this guy so consistent with that he must know like the range too like the the meter like the millimeter of like how how it throws team kill there yeah I I'm just not very good at Tracer I'm a Som guy they switched to a wrecking ball the wrecking ball coming in let's see how well maybe switch to some Caleb gameplay he's been going off underrated very here he comes let's see oh getting the kill on the ball very valuable with a time like this whenever he can just stick to the robot and just move around and just smack everybody yeah Caleb displaying what Zen is good for getting that damage getting those pickoffs then go over heal your team great support gameplay from Caleb he's also captain of The Varsity which makes a lot of sense with just the way he plays and how he supports his team going with the Transcendence to heal everybody meaning everyone is pretty much safe unless just an instakill type of old like junkrat or Diva yeah there's a reason Caleb's got a banner of himself in this hallway same thing with Noah oh gets taken out though but that's they do they do manage to get the victory making it three to zero so that is two straight clean sweeps and two straight uh very good competition from both schools W bash putting up no getting the play of the game again let's see this let's see the Noah game play Oh T form just absolutely melting the wrecking ball getting the kill getting the assist on the May let's see who else he picks off picks off the souljourn there we go very good very good Noah is like you can always expect something really good and high level from a player like Noah who just knows the game in and out always fire works whenever he steps into any game that he plays and we're going to get uh I believe we are going to get someone in for an interview we should excited to see who my personal opinion leighton's been popping off on damage amazing 4ks every game he's been going beast mode he's tapped into some sort of potential hello hello uh could you grab the mic it's Caleb I turn this thing off that's a great question we might have to get Joo for that um I believe it might still be on hold on look at it I think you guys can hear me I hope you guys can hear me yeah squat down grab a chair do something all right yeah we got the varsity Captain we got Caleb yeah the man with the banner outside you're still here okay um we're ask you a few questions um how do you do you guys think that this was like one of like your best days performing um I don't know if I could say that I know that we switched up we played some new stuff and it really worked really well and we're probably going to run with that from now on it definitely gives us an option to play more things um could be one of our best days as you know it's hard to say Dominic get in a little bit closer oh you're kind of drifting off you're sitting out all the way out here yeah um yeah like I said could have been our one of our best days but you know when you try new stuff you you don't really have a measure of how to compare it also could be like first time look which happens a lot yeah and someone like me I have not seen much gameplay from the varsity team seeing this game play making me a believer that you guys can go all the way to State win the championship again going undefeated so far yeah undefeated so far I really hope we do make it to State the way we're playing I what's the word I'm looking for definitely believe believe yeah believe was it's good enough um believe that we could make it um project we I would say I project us to go to state seeing as how we're undefeated we don't really have any new opponents so unless something drastically changes for our our um opposers then I see that we go all the way unless it's like suddenly like switch and become like Pro level yeah yeah let's hope let's yeah let's hope not let's just hope and pray that doesn't happen mhm but yeah um you were you were very valuable with the transcendences and just the like overall Zen play thanks yeah very impressive stuff going crazy on damage and healing very impressive I'm glad to hear that I don't get to plays that often so today was definitely a treat to throw out those Discord orbs melt down some tanks yeah which we were talking about it um in like the earlier stages of uh round three whenever bton picked off the kill on the Lucio we don't believe that he wouldn't have gotten that kill if it wasn't for that Discord orb awesome thanks Alo rewatch that off to see mhm see Lane peeking through the corner right there yeah there's L hello there good game play no one can see you but good gameplay L are you coming in here interview you people are going to be able to see you now here he comes L com man of the match Just Breathe Into the M silent how how Kaden Kaden are you out there Kaden is Kaden out there you're awesome if you're so out there that guy's cool him there all right any more questions um any more comments I don't have anything what do you guys um like what's your opinion like what do you think the team could like work on if there is mostly anything um like what are like your main flaws I guess I mean I'm pretty bad with positioning sometimes um but as a team maybe alt Synergy but we also do it up pretty well okay I'm getting a message that says wrap it up here soon um so I'm gonna say thanks guys for the questions and uh I'll see you next week yeah y I look forward to the game yep um have a good day thank you yep all right yeah thank you for joining us this evening we'll be back tomorrow at 5:00 P PM for an exciting match of Super Smash Bros with the bluff and cyber Tigers we Face Off against Oregon Davis it's going to be a very interesting match the one team that has so far been able to beat us on our road to the playoffs we're looking for Redemption tomorrow I also heard the coaches saying that this will be the year that uh Smash Bros goes to St yes I really want that to happen but again special thanks to auction at Wells County foundation and Indiana Esports Network the Army National Guard for the support for um our Esports program yeah and 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2024-01-31 Middlesex County, MA YouTube / WACA-TV Ashland transcript source: youtube Ashland Select Board Valentine Property Public Forum 1_29_20… · passage 1
uh good evening everyone and welcome to a special meeting the ashin select board the agenda there's a just a my name is Robert shair and we have a quorum of the select board here tonight out in the audience I think uh for the five members are here so I will call this meeting to order this is a special meeting of uh the select board as I think everyone knows this uh the single item on the agenda for tonight is a public forum on the use of the Valentine property so welcome everyone and uh without further Ado I'm going to turn this over this form over to our town manager Michael Herbert thank you thank you Mr chair um as mentioned my name is Michael Herbert I'm the town manager here and I want to welcome you all tonight to talk about the future of a property that has been in the town's possession for a few years now and we're really excited to um you know come up with a future reuse for it and that's the Valentine property uh before I start getting too much into the presentation and start talking about this uh I want to recognize again the select board members that are here Rob Sher Claudia Bennett Brandy Kinsman and Joe Joe I knew you were somewhere Joe Joe miani so I wasn't wearing my glasses Joe so and then also up here we have Doug Scott who's our Building Commissioner um and uh Jen ball our assistant Town manager Beth Reynolds economic development director and Doug Small our DPW director each of them have had some role and played played some role in uh the evolution of this property and that's something that we're again really excited to talk about tonight so what's the agenda well tonight we want to review the recent history of the proper property um and then move and start talking about the restoration of the barn many of you saw over the course of a year uh that Barn being restored to its former glory and so we'll get a little bit more into the details of that um next we'll segue into going over the existing conditions and the limitations of the future reuse of the property U because that's going to help shape and guide what we're able to do with that in the future um then we're going to review a proposed use um that has been put together and it's based upon the feedback that we had previous previously received uh through a number of different methods and uh I'll get into that a little bit further as we get to that section um and then next steps we'll discuss next steps uh and then also uh at that point we're going to open this up for Community feedback and discussion um really looking forward to getting your input on this proposal getting your thoughts um whether you agree with things disagree with things have some different ideas anyway this uh this will be an opportunity for you to share those with us so moving along um so let's talk about the history of the property uh we're not going to go all the way back to the 16 and 1700s don't worry I don't have a whole slideshow presentation on that although Beth is like why not um we're going to start with something a little bit more recent um we're going to talk about the year 2017 and 2017 was the year that Capital group properties um received a comprehensive permit from the zoning board of appeals to build 120 units um in two new buildings now they were going to do a number of things with the property one of the things is they were going to take the house and turn it into a clubhouse um but they really didn't have a proposed use for the barn um and so there were a number of discussions on what we could do with that but really nothing was ever finalized but they got a permit to build 120 units but the developer actually wanted to um appeal to what's known as the housing appeals committee to build 140 units so 120 units was not enough for them go figure uh so they wanted to do 140 units but at the same time um the select board in a meeting agreed to try and negotiate a purchase of the property with the developers so the developer is on one track uh looking at appealing their decision to get to build more units and simultaneously or concurrently if you will um the select board authorized uh myself and then the select board member Carl hackinson to go and speak with builda Petri of capital group properties to see if we could negotiate some type of purchase um after a series of discussions uh we reached agreement with the developer to purchase the property for 3.5 million and that was in March I think it took us what a couple months Carl to get that yeah at least a couple of months yes and it was it's it was a very high figure when we started out you know you might think 3.5 million is high well compared to eight it seems uh relatively reasonable but uh we did come up with uh with that agreement back in 2018 and uh to effectuate that purchase what we needed to do is get two votes uh one was at town meeting in May of 2018 which uh we overwhelmingly were able to secure uh we needed a two third's majority I don't think it was unanimous but it was close to unanimous and then we also had a debt exclusion ballot vote in May of 2018 and uh this project along with the Mendes school they were on the same ballot the Mendes School feasibility study passed with 80 it was either 80 or 85% of the vote uh pretty overwhelming majority um so also I should mentioned as part of this whole uh negotiated purchase and and process we work with the A and Hicks family who's here in attendance Robin and Cynthia to actually put a deed restriction on their property if we were successfully able to buy the property and so they very generously uh and I want to underline the word very uh very generously put a deed restriction limiting development on their property and so that was part of it as well so moving forward um we ended up you know now we've inherited like a barn that's fall apart in a house that's not in the greatest shape uh property that's a little bit overgrown so you know where do you start uh well we hired a property manager David Foster many of you know David uh to help secure the house in the barn and start cleaning it out um which he did so and then we had a public forum in 2019 and coming out of that Forum the select board uh agreed to form what's known as the Valentine property committee um and we'll get a little bit more into to what the Valentine property committee did but uh they worked for a couple of years came up with a recommendation that ultimately decided we decided not to move forward with and so again we're still left with the property that needed to be taken care of mainly the barn so after U after purchasing it in 2018 after years of stops and starts we finally came to an agreement on a process on how to uh restore this barn and uh the select board agreed to use uh $750,000 in arpa funds to help restore and preserve the shell of the barn and then CPC funds were also used for that CPC meaning Community preservation act funds or CPA funds I should say so I mentioned a little bit before about the Valentine property committee uh so that group was initially charged with assisting the town and identifying both proper and feasible reuses of the Valentine property by soliciting and review reviewing proposals from interested properties and so that group did it was about nine members did a ton of work uh putting together basically doing a lot of research first of all and I was part of that committee and and we looked at different properties in different towns that were similar so for example we went to NAIC and looked at the natic community Organic Farms I don't know if you're familiar with that uh property we also looked at the Holliston Historical Society um our neighbors next door um we looked at the Josiah Smith Tavern and uh in the town of Weston um which was purchased by that town maybe 20 25 years ago and they were still having a hard time figuring out what to do with it and then finally we looked at the Medway theer Homestead so some of you in the audience here maybe some of you watching at home um have been to the theer homestead and and know what kind of unique property that is so after reviewing all those properties we came up with a basically preferred uses through U an RFP process and we put that out to bid RFP meaning request for proposals um and we received one proposal from a developer to purchase the property for the sale of the property um and ultimately the committee made a recommendation to the select board not to move forward with that proposal first of all we found out that we weren't necessarily able to sell it or actually enter into a long term lease um with it and then it was just overall it was deemed overall not just in the best interest of the town to move forward with it and again like I mentioned before the focus at that point in time became not uh not necessarily on the uh future reuse of the property but how do we restore This Barn in order to maintain it so we can um so we can maintain it for future use that makes sense so we'll get into a little bit on the on the renovation of the barn and I'm sure Doug will be here to help me out to talk a little bit about it so as you can see here here's a um a couple really bad pictures of the barn the way it was before it was really really dark in there the picture on the left you can see that's the foundation you can see stable is not a word that you would use to describe it um it's kind of balancing Teeter tottering on rocks um you can see the general condition of the barn in the middle and in the rightmost picture um please excuse my daughter in the middle of the middle one she's giving it a thumbs up saying that yes we need to uh restore this thing um but it was in pretty pretty bad shape uh over the years we had uh holes had developed in the roof uh there was a lot of rot that had developed especially in one side so it wasn't going to be um an easy proposition to go ahead and restore this property but uh we're fortunate to have a Building Commissioner who is very experienced in Timber Frame properties and and that's really kind of one of the things that makes this property this Barn so unique is that it is a timber frame uh building and it's got this unique joinery and unique structure that's really designed to keep it holding up even if like one corner is gone which actually that was the case with this property one corner was basically not structurally sound and the thing was still standing up but um we uh we embarked upon that renovation or restoration I should say and uh Doug I don't know if you want to come up and talk a little bit about uh just some of the restoration process and well I guess you don't have to get up you can just sit right there and you can push a button we're we are in the 20th century um and just talk about maybe some of the methods and the methodology and and some of the joinery and stuff that were used so what uh what ended up happening um is that I was asked for my thoughts on the barn and what we what we could do with it my first thought was just light a match and let's walk away but no I I'm kidding I'm kidding we uh so after walking through it we came up with a game plan we went back and forth um one of the options was to take it down completely piece by piece label everything build build all new uh there's probably about 70% of it that would be new and um and then put a new foundation in and then um put it back together and uh but uh that that didn't seem to be something that uh we could get everybody behind so uh we put it out to bid to do renovations to it I wrote up a a Specs uh we were very lucky to get a comp a contractor um company out of Rhode Island that uh had a foreman supervis superintendent that was familiar with timber frame work so we were able to or I was able to have uh many conversations with them about the type of joinery that I wanted them to use to put it back together how we were going to scarf the rotted pieces from uh the the Rotom sections on some of the Timbers whole Timbers that needed to be replaced and really didn't to be honest we really didn't have a full idea how much was going to have to be done until we finished cleaning it out um taking out the horse stalls and taking out a lot of what was uh superus to the actual frame of the building and as that uh we were as that happened and we were unveiling the structure um we found areas that we needed to do wholesale replacement and some areas where we could scarf some joints scarfing a joint is where you're cutting a Timber you're cutting in a certain way to be able to add new pieces to it and um I'm just going to highlight like the place where you did that right here yes that is one of them so all everything that's replaced is with was replaced with Oak pegs that was one of my that was one of my uh demands that we weren't using any mechanical uh Fasteners to to put this back together it was originally and it's still is and it was a an oak I I not sure if it was all Oak more than likely it was the pegs um and and it was put together that way so when we put it back we put it back the same exact way um the uh you know we we we had as part of this about when we had it all opened up and we realized that we had a substantial amount of replacement work that we needed to do um we were able to I was able to work a change order there was close to $400,000 and ended up spending that it ended up in the long run costing the town a little over $30,000 because I did some horse trading um areas that we didn't need to do that we didn't have to go crazy on trading those in for credits for um work that we did need to do so and the other thing was is that the all the wood in there except for the flooring is uh hem fur uh typically what I used to build I used to build timber frame homes and they were all out of Oak but nowadays Oak is crazy stupid and you have to be able to cut it within within three days of when it's cut as a tree um so we Ed hemper which gave some latitude and some time to be able to properly fit things we had to take corn the back left corner we had to take that that's a 30 foot tall 8 by8 piece of hemper um supporting the in under the basement which you don't see we have a a whole series of we got a 30 foot long and a 28 ft long 10x10 o uh hemp for beam which we all chisel these are all hand chiseled um there's no Machinery used in it um and the goal was to make it safe and sound um we didn't beautify it um there's no electricity to the building uh but it is now standing solid and it should last another 150 years awesome thank you Doug and just kind of expound a little bit on what doug was saying some cases so the sheathing um of the barn when um when that was to rotted Beyond repair Doug actually went up to a U or m city under Doug's Direction actually went up to a barn in Maine an Old Barn in Maine and reclaimed some of that Lumber and used that as sheathing um for the roof uh that was originally 1 by 12s um they were they were all pretty much rotted I think that's a fair fair thing to say I don't think that's going to surprise anybody who saw the tar blowing in the wind um but um anyway that was all replaced with 1 by2 sheathing um and then architectural great shingles and um again as as Doug mentioned all the joineries is hand done uh it really is just you know I grew up on a farm so um barns have some kind of sentimental value to me and some sentimental interest um but really if you're just a student of architecture um you could probably really have an appreciation for such a barn it's just really really unique you can get a little sense of the of the of the framework here at the top I know this picture isn't the greatest but um some of these things are actually just cable to keep it um well it disappeared everybody so well until okay we we're back now all right there um you can just see some of the complex joinery there that's utilized to keep it um keep it upright and keep it going so that was really uh the story of the renovation behind the barn and so I'll move forward and here's some pictures of the barn that's 95% done um the first thing that I noticed as I walked in there is that you can get a lot more light compared to those uh pictures from before the renovation um that's because we um uncovered the fact that there were boarded up Windows there um and so we were able to replace those with wood windows um some of the other windows that were broken we were able to replace uh so there's a lot of natural light that gets in there um especially compared to the way it was previously um it's a pretty wide open floor plan right now um the the outside of the barn is cedar shingles that's been painted and trying to think of any other relevant uh relevant things other than what Doug and I have mentioned um can't really think of of anything else like like Doug said our goal was to was to restore this property and to keep it as historical as possible and we were very very fortunate I will say because there was some question about how historical the restoration was and we were very fortunate to be on a historical commission meeting with um a historical consultant named Stacy spies uh who was working with the historical Commission on a local historic district that's for another Forum but um she was able to give us her opinion on what she thought about the U the renovation or the restoration I should say and she was very very pleased with it from a historical perspective thought that we were going above and beyond really what we needed to do as part of that so so those are pictures of the barn afterwards the one I put one the one thing I didn't uh tell you was the interior of the basement so we rebuilt a good section of the foundation that Foundation was a mix of rock stone concrete Rick you know it was a so we left the exterior what we did was we poured a on average a 12in thick one-sided wall around the entire interior and there's a concrete floor uh in that uh now so um so there would be no no movement uh for any of that that was that was quite the undertaking yeah it really was a massive project um so let's move forward to existing conditions so I showed you what the barn looks like now maybe a few tweaks since we took those pictures but moving forward now let's talk about the rest of the property and the existing conditions mainly the land so we're very fortunate that we have Carl and Robin Hicks Carl hackinson and Robin Hicks here along with uh several other volun actually many volunteers worked very very hard to clear this property of all the brush and most of the invasive species that were on the remaining uh acreage of the property which the total acreage of the property I realized I didn't say that in the beginning is 7.7 Acres so you know it's not um it's not a plantation by any means but uh it's certainly a good siiz property and they spent a lot of work u in a lot of hot days uh working with some mechanical equipment Greg WS Greg I can't believe I didn't mention you by name specifically here uh Greg did a lot of work as well um in clearing that property and making sure that basically it's a blank pallet I guess you could say for uh for the future use uh there was a Wilderness quarter that was untouched um for wildlife to utilize uh basically there's been a path that's been cut to um to uh utilize and enjoy the property and then when we're talking about existing conditions I should uh should also mention the house of course uh the house is the other other building on the property the house is a really really unique uh mish mash we're going to use that term again since it's a technical term of different styles in different um different centuries and different Generations I guess you could say um you can see here through some of these pictures and I I want to point out that these pictures are a few years old so the house is not in as good a condition as you see right now but in the back there is a very very large kitchen area in the front as you walk into the old house which is a two Center chimney Colonial home that was built around the 17 uh in the late 17 excuse me 1800s the original house was in the 1700s um as you walk into the front you see these nice great rooms with these uh big fireplaces and a couple of picture windows that were added over the course I think around the 1920s um they were added and so it's really just kind of a grand entrance as you as you walk in makes a big difference um when you when you can come in and you have all of this this space that you can utilize and think of um different uses for um but I will have to say for the most part this house is chopped up pretty good uh when I say chopped up a lot of rooms have been made um I think it was a rooming house at one point um there's been all kinds of activities that have been found at the Valentine property I think there was uh some gaming that was done maybe back in the day um I see a couple smiles out in the audience people know what I'm talking about um but uh in any case that's the existing conditions of the house just a brief existing condition of the house now before we start talking about the proposal and the proposed reuse of the property let's talk about some of the current limitations that we had in and help shape this proposal all right so first of all this land is considered chapter 97 land so chapter 97 is part of the Massachusetts Constitution it is designed to protect open space and Parkland um an environmentally sensitive property uh throughout Massachusetts um it's got a number of restrictions associated with it but a primary one that affects this property is that it prohibits the sale and the long-term lease of the property um because it's chapter 97 land it's also can't be used for commercial for-profit use so that's a limitation as well as part of the property um since we utilize CPA funds and since Robin and Cindy's deed restriction on their property was contingent upon having a CPA restriction on the Valentine property we have CPA restrictions Community preservation act restrictions um on the property as well which requires that the property be used in accordance with the CPA guidelines and I'll go in a little bit deeper into the conservation restriction later but that conservation restriction also limits the ability to add buildings to the property now there are certain uh certain instances where uh for ancillary purposes or maybe educational purposes you could build build some type of structure but it can't be deletar to the property or or take away from it in its historical and ecological value there's significant Wetlands on the property um and for those of you that are unfamiliar with Wetlands uh they're environmentally sensitive areas that require permitting and um you know they they provide some necessary complications uh with putting together a use for the property you have to work around it to to a certain extent we also have limited parking availability so everybody you know if you ask anybody you know what's what's a main concern of downtown or any place people will say parking or a lot of people will say parking well the same thing you can say that for the Valentine property as well there's limited space for parking it also must have a tourism aspect to it so when the American um rescue plan act came out and funds were distributed there were a set of guidelines that communities had to follow in order to be able to utilize those properties and uh one of them was that you could use the property for tourist tourism and economic development and so that is what we the rationale we utilize to tap into AR arpa funds to redo the barn so now it has that attachment to it so we have to have some kind of Tourism aspect to it doesn't have to be the main thing but there has to be some some level of Tourism associated with it and that's a very broad definition as well and then finally operations at this point in time in Ashland's development it must be self- sustaining so we we can't have a property that bleeds uh money and does not have expenses that exceed our Revenue um I should have pointed out here it doesn't mean that Revenue has to exceed the operating cost but at least has to meet it so we have to have something that's Revenue neutral unless the the town decides to move in a different direction and uh start putting uh more money into the general fund budget so those are the current limitations on the property see how I'm doing for time here I mentioned the conservation restriction and the conservation restriction really has a number of elements associated with it and a number of um purposes first it's supposed to provide a framework for the house in the barn and the grounds and what you can use it for and how you maintain it especially the historical properties the house and the barn it provides an opportunity for us to both host public and private events at the uh at the property um it provides protection for wildlife habitat I mentioned that Wildlife quor being a key component of that it provides protection for Park land in open space you saw all of that land a good majority of that or practically all of that space that I showed in the pictures needs to stay as open space um it also provides an opportunity to continue its um its agricultural Heritage uh this property has as you can imagine a um a distinguished history as an agricultural property throughout the years uh being utilized in a number of different formats um an orchard it was actually at one point believe Cliff you might want to help me out here I believe it was a place where there almost like a self-sustaining Farm where people you know they basically grew the food that they ate there wasn't necessarily for commercial purposes Cliff's nodding his head so I'm going to go if that's okay kind of kind of okay we we'll stick with kind of and then finally and I think the most important part it gives us an opportunity for to learn about and then also celebrate um Ashland's history not just the history of the Valentine property but the history of Ashland itself and so with all of that in mind that is what helped shape the proposed use that we're talking about tonight um I should also point out that this use has been shaped not only through the restrictions and the limitations that I went through before but also through multiple public forums uh I mentioned the Valentine property committee's work we also had a survey that we utilized to help create figure out what kind of uses people wanted to see the property oh are we good Paul maie okay all right that was a planed dramatic entrance for the proposal here everybody so um again just uh just to close up we've we've gathered a lot of public feedback on the use of this property and that has uh what shaped this proposal um I before I forget Kate Valentine and her husband also provided input on this property and what you know what it could be used for and provided a vision for that and so this incorporates aspects of that as well so first I'll just go over this little green area here which was that open space area which I which I um which I showed pictures of earlier that Carl and Robin and Greg and others had worked on so that will under this proposal that would remain as open space um and you would have walking paths along the property and then you would also maintain that undisturbed Wildlife quarter um there's also the possibility that we could use this for agricultural use again there's some significant wetlands and they mainly occur uh going following that little Green Dot and it expands over here but there's potential for agricultural use um through that property the blue area that you see here is the historic house and then also the barn um both areas would have multiple functions and purposes that's something that we'll get into into the future slides and then finally um although small this red area is dedicated for parking and there's a couple of different uh algorithms or or calculations that you can utilize they're very basic very generic that you can utilize to determine how many parking spots that you can get out of certain space so we think we can get you know a little over 50 parking spaces on U on this piece of property this little section right here sorry about that um so let's start with the barn so the barn has still that rustic look as you can say and as you can see and really it most lends itself to being reused as something like the Holliston Historical Society um which is used for private engagements uh weddings I don't know if you've driven by when there's a wedding there but it's it's it's really cool to to look at especially on a nice summer night um when you see all the lights outside and uh you see the doors are all open you can see inside um a little bit different than the Holliston Historical Society in the sense that the Holliston Historical Society right now has a concrete floor and then it also has um a kitchen that's built in the back um again it would be available for rent so for weddings birthday parties other private events but it could also be used as the town would own it it would also be used for different town meetings and different functions and different events so we would have the possibility to maybe utilize this as a um an arm of the farmers market if you will or uh have a town meeting or a town Forum there or something to that effect I would be partial to a Bluegrass concert myself but not everybody shares my love of music that way um it could also serve as a location for one of Ashland's hidden gyms which I I think is a hidden gym which is the Ashland Community Theater um they put on performances and they generally have those at the VFW but uh this could also serve as as a location for ashin Community Theater with a significant retrofits and then also it could also serve as a place to learn more about traditional arts and crafts uh such as woodworking metal smithing Fiber Arts this is something that can make uh Ashland really unique in the region you have Hopkinson Center for the Arts which does a lot of theatrical uh musical work as well as a bunch of visible mediums as well um you have amazing things Art Center in Framingham that is dedicated towards music and theater and then tan and NAIC which is dedicated towards music we really don't have something here that's dedicated to like oldtime Agricultural and trade trade work uh some of those things that are being lost throughout the generations things like stone wall building uh you know stackings what they call it um other things like that the house also would serve multiple purposes so the room on the first the rooms on the first floor that I talked about those those bigger rooms those more open rooms they would be used as a conference and meeting room facility that back kitchen that I mentioned um way in the back of the building so that could be retrofitted and used as a kitchen to support functions in the house and then also the barn and thanks to Beth we already have equipment uh commercial kitchen equipment for that property so we wouldn't have to go through the expense of that the rest of the first floor would be used as a place to support Barn functions as well one of the things I also I forgot to put here is that we could use it as maybe a museum for the Valentine family or even Ashland history you know there's a lot of different ways we can utilize these spaces they don't just have to be for one particular thing you know you could have a changing room maybe for a wedding party but at the same time you could have that filled with Ash history um and history dedicated to the Valentine family and then finally the second floor would be utilized for municipal offices and specifically I'm talking about the creation of a new Parks and Recreation Department that would be uh headquartered I guess you could say on the second floor and the duties of that would be include managing the rentals for the Valentine Barn maintaining and renting out the athletic fields in town and as well as using future recreational programs um and that's in addition to the site of the community center I don't want people to think that this is a replacement for the programs in the location um at the community center right now the existing programs in location and then that's generally the the the proposal over on a nutshell Doug do you want to uh do you want to speak to the parks and wreck department in the need so as Doug walks up here we're in a very unique situation here in Ashland in that we don't have a parks and wck Department our DPW actually maintains the fields and all the athletic fields including the rentals and things like that and so what's become very very apparent over the years is that we need I told you you should have got up here in the first place uh is that we need a more enhanced Department that's really dedicated towards uh this type of work hi Doug are you uh okay uh we good yeah I mean it's like uh where where where do we begin and I don't want to bore everybody with the history a lot of the people in the room were were right there uh you know 15 years ago when we when we first put that the artificial turfield we replaced Walker field with the artificial turfield at the old middle school at the old high school I should say and then a year later we had the the new field a high school field complex um built which was a second artificial turf field along with a bunch of other uh Fields baseball softball and so on and so forth um and what's what what worries me is every time I talk about this everybody's going to get used to just Doug complaining Doug Scott um so it's back to the foundation but anyway so um but yeah and I and I hate sounding that way and all this stuff but if if anybody in this room has ever been involved with renting Fields managing Fields the operation of fields anything like that you know exactly what I'm talking about um as everybody knows the DPW we take care of essential um essential services for the town of Ashlin and Fields uh recreational Fields Sports and it's not it doesn't fit with the DPW um and and uh one of the one of the big issues is uh you know games are played at night or on the weekends and we're we're not geared that way you know the the the actual budget itself is not funded uh appropriately in order to cover nights and weekends and things like that and then throw on top of that the school department who has first right to the fields so anyways like I said I I've been we've been talking about this for years and I don't want to come out as a as complaining but all the other cities and towns around us have a parks and wreck department as far as I know we obviously we we have a wreck department already with Kelly rund uh but it's I really think that um ever since the artificial tur Fields came along uh that we should have been really looking at putting a parks and wck Department in and and for everybody that was involved over the years it was just a massive undertaking there were many many people involved D in this whole thing this whole program and they did a wonderful job with the high school fields and all that and and we just we fell short unfortunately as far as putting in a a program to actually rent the fields and book the fields so on and so forth um but if it was easy it would have been done already but there have been some some terrific people involved and many groups and all this stuff and and it's never we've never never been able to complete it and uh anyway so is there anything else you want me to add no Doug that's great so Doug Doug always loves it when I Call On Him especially unannounced he does a good job doesn't he folks he does good so um all right so that's the that's the Parks and Recreation Department and finally you got A Sneak PE peak of this but uh we got one final curveball here with the uh Valentine property so has anybody ever heard of the invasive spotted Lantern FL if you have please raise your hand oh my gosh not as rare as I thought maybe um so this invasive insect has the ability to just really DeForest and devate uh practically anything it gets it gets on um and so the Massachusetts Department of Agriculture agricultural resources um f familiar I'm just not even gonna try also known as mdar um they actually have the property under quarantine after they found that the spotted Lantern fly was on the property and so we're working with them right now on treatment options but um right now we it's hard for us to do any kind of activity on it um until we get mdar permission so that's something that is constantly evolving and we're getting more information about that uh We've aized treatment um on the property so hopefully that won't set us back too far and won't do too much damage and um yeah that's about it so next steps yeah Rob I'm sorry I sure um so what are the next steps now um once we get rid of the lantern fly um so we're having a public forum tonight right and so what we're going to do is we're going to take the feedback that we get tonight and we're going to incorporate that into a revised plan that we will present to the select board at a future date at that point once we have a use determined in a direction determined we can hire an architect and an engineer who can provide more information on the feasibility of the of the plan they can do things like um evaluate for ADA compliance do samples for parking Etc and then that group could also work on a high level estimate on the cost um cost of Renovations and so once we get the cost we can look at that we can look at what our next steps are going to be do we move forward with it do we move forward in a phased approach do we try to take care of it all at once um and if we do how are we going to fund it um that's a big question with any Town project is what are we going to use to fund these projects there's a there's a variety of sources that we could utilize um each with their own little um idiosyncrasies but it's uh it's certainly possible I don't want people to walk away from this thinking that it's impossible we've we've done a lot of awesome things before um and this has the possibility to be uh basically a gem I think of of Metro West not just Ashland but the region uh considering all the the proposed uses that we were talking about which I know it's varied but I don't think it's so much that it dutes any one particular use's influence or or um or power if you will that's not the right word but it's the best one I can come up with for right now so um anyway I thank you for your time I thank you for listening and appreciate you coming and uh we'll open it up for questions um what we'll do is or or comments Macky do we still still have the mic back there the handheld mic okay um thing hello hello yeah all right awesome so Yolanda you're gonna go first no I'm walking are you gonna walk the mic around oh thank you thank you so much so Robin Robin on hello Robin Hicks 11 Franklin Road uh for the next meeting if I'm sure there's going to be multiple meetings but um it was I feel that this wasn't advertise properly uh maybe a a A-Frame sign in front of the Valentine estate saying meeting uh I put up some bulletin boards around town don't tell anyone but in a post office it's probably legal but I put it up anyways uh and stuff some mailboxes so I don't know if anyone got those but I think a few people did and we should have there should be 100 people at this meeting instead of I maybe there's 40 29 good great yeah and I believe this is also being broadcast over uh Facebook um so there could be many many Watchers um on Facebook as well but thanks for your comments and thanks for doing what you did to advertise the the program of course Barbie Barbie can you hear me hello um this is Barb I live on brighten Road I think we should all show our street should be notified of what's going on with the insects so that we can also do something about it because they're just going to come and see us when um the other thing is is I agree that a lot of people did not know about it I don't know if we can put it on bulletin boards at the supermarkets they probably don't like advertising but everybody goes to the supermarket um and I guess that's all I thought this meeting might incorporate more than it it is today but this is good okay any comments on like the proposal or I I I hear everybody in terms of like the advertisement and the attendance um okay hey Carl Michael do you want to say is this on uh do you want to say a few words about um the holder of the conservation restriction and how that works um I can I would rather you say something about it cuz you have a much you know a lot more that you can say than I be here for another 45 minutes so maybe you should do it okay is it possible to turn that up Mackie okay yeah why don't you come to the podium and uh talk 44 maybe I'll anyway Michael mentioned that it's uh subject to a conservation restriction and uh a lot of times people don't know what that means and for a number of reasons the CPA requirement um mainly and the um the article 97 aspect that Michael talked about uh that really emanated from the language of the Town Hall warrant article uh required a conservation restriction and so how that works is um you you have to find someone certified by the state to hold the restriction and the Restriction is a document that pretty much lays out everything that can in a nutshell everything that can and cannot happen at the property and um so the property is owned by the town but it's supervised from that aspect uh by the holder and the holder in this case is the Hopkin area land trust um we worked out an agreement with uh with them earlier in the year um the uh select board and and Michael have the uh the draft of the conservation restriction it's now being reviewed by the state but um a lot of times people say why can't we do this or why can't we do that and the answer oh almost always emanates from what does it say in the conservation restriction and this conservation restriction um it has a lot of leeway it's a it was a um um a little bit of a different restriction because it has has a historical aspect to it as well um and so finding a holder was a little bit challenging because most conservation groups don't want to be involved in things outside of of raw land and obviously this is more than raw land so uh a lot of things that that uh that will go that will happen going forward with the town just have to be coordinated with the hopkington area land trust and and they've been very accommodating to this point um does that kind of clarify things thanks thanks U thank you um I have some slides that I put together yes yes of course um I would love for the slides to be up it would really help me you could but the people online won't be able to see them uh well let's see how it goes um hi good evening everyone um my name is Luba zorova um I've been a resident of Ashland for about 5 years so about the time since you guys have been having these discussions about the property um and this is the first time that I'm um participating in it and and have something I I do need one C oh sorry no that's okay yes thank you um yes so I live near Warren Center uh off of Chestnut Street I have three kids uh four six and 11 years old year old boys and um my four-year-old um has been attending adventures in learning program in Ashland which been uh hi Brandy has been open since uh 2019 or 2020 and it has been absolutely the highlight of his week um I've never seen my boy that happy um unfortunately he can only attend uh once a day I'm sorry once a week for three and a half hours um but I came here to speak for nature-based education and for an idea of using having that use on a property to be the anchor use uh that provides the revenue stream and other uses being the supportive and complementary to that um and the reason for that is that I feel that um nature-based and Outdoor Learning um is a very big need in the town um and I'm very confident it will provide um the revenue stream that is needed to balance out uh the budgetary concerns that the town has um and basically my slides are making a case for it and I just want to go really quickly through it um I guess um my goal tonight is to voice the vision for the property because I think the UniFi vision is missing a bit people are talking about different things but there's no no one thing that is really clicking with everyone and so that's my chance at uh speaking for it I also feel like I'm speaking for the parents who are in E thick of raising children uh holding down a job and not being able to participate in these type of community meetings um I'm paying a babysitter right now to for my children for someone to take care of my children so so I can be here but I do think it's a a need and I've spoken to many parents who are in support of it and I'm very confident if we go out there with this idea there will be a lot of support for it so the vision for this for the anchor uh use of this property not the only one obviously but is for ashin to become the regional center for local outdoor nature-based and Environmental Education for preschool through high school children meeting the challenge es of our society and the needs of the Working Families nature-based education promotes enthusiasm for learning movement physical activity Advanced problem solving skills creativity problem solving conflict resolution relationship building raising environmental stewards of tomorrow um and also allows for more uh customized approach to each kid I think it's um intuitively it makes sense to most people that kids learn the best uh with a h in a Hands-On environment Outdoors um and their pictures uh on the presentation to show that so um kids explore they take risks it improves their fine motor skills we all know that um unfortunately children are over stimulated with screens there's a lot less outdoor plane kids don't go to each other's houses anymore they don't ride bikes um this these are the societal issues that I'm uh describing um and um I think the model for what can be at this place is this little program this little German Ashland adventures in learning that I recently learned is closing and it's closing because um Courtney who runs this program she was um she may be known by many in the community um she doesn't have an indoor space uh she doesn't have a licensed building for kids and so they cannot really spend more than three and a half hours Outdoors there are three four five six year olds um and and co uh also was uh impacted her program and financially it only makes sense if she can offer something full-time and um the only limitation is Imagination really for uh what she has to offer I'm not specifically um saying uh um trying to put Courtney in charge of this program I'm just saying it's an amazing model we already have it in ashin we can work off of it so that that's really uh the idea um and so why should we consider children as the primary benefactors of the Valentine property I feel like we haven't really talked about them um as much as I wish I guess as a parent um access to child care is difficult um women get in line for child care the moment they find out they're pregnant that is ridiculous frankly waiting for for uh daycare slot to open for 9 months uh at a time um access to Affordable and quality Child Care is difficult cost of child care in Massachusetts is the second most expensive one in the country after California it's more expensive than mortgage so we don't have enough of it and it's always not always high quality and you have to wait a long time for it so sometimes uh it makes families make very difficult decisions that they otherwise wouldn't want to do um so I did mention that I feel like parents are not represented in this General discussion because they are they just can't find the time and so I'm speaking for some of them so um as an example of the need ashan's Current public preschool has an enrollment of 81 children and the weight list is 48 and it's very common so you have the need far exceeding what the town can provide ashin is expected to continue to grow by about 10% uh per uh census 25% of people living in Ashland are children under the age 18 we're talking about a quarter of population who can benefit from this um I think this particular use uh would be a great fit for the property as I mentioned it would serve public and Community need for child care and after school care for all different ages it would be more affordable uh or at least as affordable as other options except that it would provide an outdoor learning component which a lot of parents really love and it fits uh the needs of of many children um it would it I I believe this use would be compatible with the conservation restriction and historical restriction on a property so the whole issue of you know leasing you cannot lease or rent to commercial properties that that's a nonissue um it would align with sustainability committee goals of contributing to Environmental Education in the town um it's within walking distance to middle school kids could just walk after school and learn how to garden or to raise animals or um do farming and then sell their produce at the Ashland farmers market for example there are just so many connections to the curriculum science environmental math um and the income stream um uh as I mentioned parents are paying for child care obviously and uh that would just kind of come full circle and support the operations of the building itself so uh uh for that to work uh the town would need to either lease um to a nonprofit entity to run a program like that that's one option um except that I'm not really sure what shortterm uh rental I'm sorry lease versus long-term rental are we talking months or a couple of years uh long-term lease is usually considered five years or more okay so you know uh it has to be something that makes sense from the nonprofit Pro um nonprofit organization to invest in at least a five year like they need a little but of certainty um so uh the location is across the street from Ashland State Park in terms of programming that you again nature based outdoor type of programming could be uh done in the summer it could be in partnership with um Ashland Recreation offerings already um and um yep I you know if people uh like the idea I think a phased approach would make most sense you know you would start with phase one where you kind of use the adventures and learning model of open inia preschool program first that's where the need is the greatest um I uh but it would be a full day um I'm sure if they started they would easily enroll 20 kids and that's a good Revenue stream for kids um I mean for to run the property from Financial perspective um and another benefit is that um this anchor use would not interfere with other potential uses on site such as um offices renting out the barn to for functions you mentioned birthday parties I just took my four-year-old for his birthday party at another Farm in Sherburn that's $500 for 11 kids that's a standon rate so like you could literally leverage the program and the animals to rent it for kids birthday parties I'm sure that would be a hit um the one thing I didn't mention not animals um so adventures and learning they have a couple of goats some chickens um kids come and they brush the goats they chop up you know kale and feed it to them they gather eggs these are just introductory learning on how to take responsibility for taking care of animals and um and dig dirt and and and play and learn how to count rocks and so many other great things um so so these are just my initial ideas I do have a little table here on slide 14 uh of different types of programming for preschoolers so three through six for after school activities for let's say kindergarten through middle school and then after school programs for middle and high school could include um even programs like 4 AG I I don't know if you guys know that um you know that's kind of more advanced uh but the property is seems to be a perfect fit for all of it nature learning uh Wildlife Corridor Wetlands you can learn like the curriculum opportunities to plug in the uh public school kids would be amazing um I think in um in 2019 during the Forum um you uh mentioned looking into na Community farm and how it's such an institution in town people care so much about it right they miss millions of dollars to just rebuild the barn um what they mention is that every single student in natic public schools come comes to the farm at some point they are invested in it it's part of their Town that's what I would imagine this place to be as well um and I'm I'm coming to the end I know it's taking a little while um there's a slide about different types of models out there um it would be something that would be ours but there are a lot of ideas um on the St of Outdoor Learning um communities and farms and schools and um I know people were talking about that not too many people show up um uh to these forums um I know the Ashlin mom's group on Facebook is very active and has hundreds of um members and um I'm sure if an idea was pitched to them like you could do some kind of voting on Facebook I don't know if it complies with open meeting law uh and we can discuss this um uh I wanted to uh speak about this idea at the sustainability committee as well to get their endorsement um because um we have to teach our kids how to be more responsible stewards of Earth and this is the way to do it and we have a place to do it and I feel like it's a perfect opportunity for it and I'm not just speaking for my kids it's all the future kids um and yeah comprehensive planning committee I plan to talk about it too as well as a vision long-term vision for the town so this is really an appeal to make the Valentine property serve our children and to invest in our future thank you very much I can email you the slides can I ask question yeah abolutely yes oh uh yes I uh the house not the barn yeah the barn has no installation no water no sewer so you need for the license place but it will okay it will okay it should it must I mean didn't you say that the house needs to support the activities for the barns so for the kitchen to work and uh it it needs Water and Sewer I mean I know it will take time and money but you can do anything with time with money time and money yeah I know you just need a vision first and then everything will align put together PR yeah no I think I'm just building building on what has been done to date um I I think a lot of great work was done um I'm just emerging at this particular period of time because of my personal situation and and yeah that's U my yeah I think it's a great idea okay I really do and I don't think it's it's like mutually exclusive of some of the things that we're talking about but it's complimentary real question can you tell me like just in general not necessarily how much you pay but in general how much is Child Care a week it used when Nora was going to school it was like a weekly thing yes yeah um it varies um anywhere up to 450 a week uh 300 is hard to come by it depends on the hours uh but 300 is a great deal I would say 350 to 450 sometimes 500 if they're uh it's a really good daycare and they they just renovated their space um that's the range okay yeah generate some significant Revenue thank you thank you for putting that all together I know that was a lot of work any other questions thoughts Cliff where' the mic go oh you come have to use this one okay did use zoom cliff and zoom mutually exclusive uh just ask a few people in the room uh at any rate no the the only question I really had uh was one that was just touched upon about the house and my question is about the barn about uh three Essentials that it doesn't currently have um and that is electricity water and I hadn't even considered the the sewage uh but if if one were to have restrooms out there that would be an item too and the other one is heating so I just wondered what the plans were on that sure no no those are good questions um so what you could do is utilize the bathrooms and in the house actually in the kitchen in the house and one of the things that we've kind of kicked around as an idea is you could maybe build a Breezeway between the house and the Barn um there's a door basically it matches up and yeah I think yeah and like a greenhouse and everything facility was that that's something different yeah it's gone through a lot hasn't it so a breeze a Breezeway so yeah and basically have a connection point to both the kitchen and the bathroom facilities um in terms of the installation and stuff it would it would be limited in terms of when you could use it in season just just like the Holliston Historical Society does and I don't have it right in front of me but I think they use it from April November they're saying you're using it at at basically at your own risk um but they do have I think some kind of supplemental heating that they utilize there it's just not insulated but that's something that we could look at too the key is you get all of these ideas together and and you like it's like an amalgamation of ideas and then you go out and get an expert who can talk to you about the feasibility of it and and basically draw it out and say okay well this is what something like that could look like um and then you figure out okay exactly what you need what kind of estimate you're talking about so there's a ways to go but I think as as Luba correctly pointed out you put together like a vision and kind of like an idea of everything that you want to do there that's your starting point um okay yeah does anybody online have some questions or comments um hi this is Kate McDonald I live right behind the Valentine estate and um I was listening tonight and my biggest concern is where you said I'm I'm really worried about who's going to maintain this land you know my I had the Boy Scout Troops down there cutting the trees but from what I've been Gathering about other meetings that have been going on is that the DPW doesn't even want to right now maintain the land the grass of the schools and Seed the grass and who's going to maintain this land and making sure that it's the property properly cut and maintained and like the the um all the woods is maintained back so it doesn't overgrow again yeah because that's a big big issue I think yeah Kate I think that's a good question um and first of all I I don't think the DPW said they don't want to um I think they just with their current Staffing levels they have a hard time maintaining everything that they're being asked to maintain and the parks and wreck department in collaboration with DPW would be the ones that would have to maintain this property right so it would be under Kelly's Kelly's at the rec center then so would this all the management of this then fall under Kelly's like she would be the one running her programs then or everything would be rental through her so she would be the one that's manag this whole the whole Barn that that would be yet to be determined I mean Kelly's part of the Kelly would be part of the equation here for any kind of Parks and Recreation Department for sure um but you know we haven't seen like what the organizational structure would look like or anything like that we don't even know if we would have a space for them other than this space that we're talking about right because all the programs that the lady said before like Kelly runs an amazing after like a you know preschool program which You' be you know expanded upon which are always highly in need which you know programs like that so that's something that like again going piggybacking off the lady before um yeah my biggest concern is because I've said we've been dealing with that for Boy Scouts helping out in other fields in town of making sure that someone someone is put in charge of maintaining the land perfect thank you yeah Helen Helen you have your hand up right yes I do Hi H Helen Nicole um you know I just I wanted to comment that you know and I love schools nothing in schools I but I would be very concerned myself supporting a school because I think that's going to severely limit other community um involvement here it's going to severely limit other community uses I I I would think especially during the week because people coming onto a school property have to be for there's a lot of things that go along with a school um that would preclude other people from using that area um so I I just want to really express my concern for that because we we've spent a lot of money on this we're going to be spending a lot of money on this and I really felt like this property was something that the people in the town wanted uh for the community uh to benefit from for everyone not just one specific um you know school age people I mean all people and so I am a little concerned about that and I just wanted to express that no I I appreciate that Helen and and I think you know one of the things so this property is going to need a multitude of uses to make it feasible right it can't just lean on one particular thing and so you can look at timing of different different aspects and different activities I mean fortunately not a lot of parties are going on during school school days right or you know manyi weddings or anything like that but you do bring up a good point you limit your scheduling time for some of those we'll just call them Revenue generating events like a wedding if you're doing something like a school or have you know on you know weekly activities or you know things that require a certain schedule so your point your point is well taken miles hey miles miles is one of the original Valentine property committee members thank you Michael um just a quick point on the items brought up I I think that the one issue with a daycare type of thing is it would take an incredible amount of investment to bring that up to someplace that to a level that could H support some sort of full-time child care situation I think it would be much better suited to work in the direction of being able to support school time programs uh for children to come in to do specifics there um but I think that's comes to a lot later in the that this would support this property would support a child care type situation as it's uh direction that it's it's going in in Redevelopment um one of thing the thing I want to raise my hand for is to uh just suggest that uh a part of the process for having an Avenue for uh support is to develop a nonprofit 501c3 type uh friends of Valentine property type of I'm not trying to give it an official name but just the concept uh to that could handle a lot of fundraising types of things project support volunteer uh uh creation for everything from semiannual uh types of uh brush clearing and stuff like that so it would take a lot of the load off of the uh uh parks and wreck type of hiring of uh you know people to do some of these things that don't need to be done on a constant basis but definitely need to keep the property up uh so I just wanted to suggest uh that that's something to be kept in mind uh that might help even fairly early in the process here is to develop and I and I I guess have to look at how that dovetails with the uh uh the town ownership and everything like that but I I believe one good uh example of this is the friends of Minute Man National Historical Park uh they do a lot of the the fund related types of things and support of uh of the park and volunteerism awesome thank you miles Julie I see your hands up hi Julie nardone 86th Street um an idea that I had uh piggybacking on the nonprofit was that it would it would be like this new model where they it would be like a caretaker nonprofit uh events planner and they would actually it could be a family it could be couples it could be whatever and they live on the second floor of the Valentine estate because housing is so expensive that would uh take a lot of um pressure off whoever runs profit to have to make you know tons and tons of money so as part of this package they would live upstairs they could take care of the land and they could do the events management I don't know how this would work but it FLW into my head so I wanted to share it um thank you thanks Julie all right any um any other questions comments uh from the audience or in Zoom land Kate Kate oh no I already had my comment I'm all set thank you um Kate Jers 11 Rodman Road um so I have um a couple things this speaks to me and it's really I I kind of echo I guess of making sure we get people out but the idea floating around are really exciting and I think we definitely need to either reconstitute the Valentine committee or a new version of that to kind of keep keep interest keep um ideas flowing and make sure that it's out in the community and it's not um I think when you have more people kind of the word gets spread out more and it it has a way to uh communicate with people I also think um you know if it I I agree with the self- sustaining so I think that's great I think if it ends up being a you know a town Department that should probably be factored in the cost because that would be going somewhere else we we would be paying for that somehow it it looks to me that um the H it said hire an architect and engineer and I I would say we're not yet at that process right cuz we'd be spending money to design what um we probably do need some help on when there's a tighter list of ideas um to maybe investigate how they're feasible I would support the 501c3 nonprofit and then I do have a question um is that new barn door like a historic reference um because I've Heard lots of people that don't like it I don't like it if you tell me it's historic I'll be like great I'll celebrate it but I hope that we can get something historic there yeah yeah right now the only thing historic about that barn door is the window which is the original window that um the uh X if you will will be painted black or stained black like the rest of the property or rest rest of the door not the rest of the property oh my gosh right any um any other questions or comments yeah Barbie have they address the traffic issue in that area uh it should be addressed no there there hasn't so they haven't addressed the traffic issue but I think actually you raise a good point because one of the things that the select board and I are going to do um after the marathon with uh with Doug and his team's help is BU finally Build That Sidewalk on 135 from Marathon mobile over to Franklin so so that should help at least with The Pedestrian access so that is a whole other multi-million dollar question so okay well folks I I know Doug and you guys have talked about putting a crosswalk state to connect set AC cross yeah there there's been Doug do you want to speak to the crosswalk yeah right now uh step one is to put a crosswalk over by Edgewood uh we've had a professional engineer design it two of them actually so um we're in that process now the uh the sign posts have been planted as far as the concrete and all that but so that's phase one phase two is going to be the sidewalk after the marathon and then a second crosswalk down by Indian Spring sorry Mike I don't think we're going to allow horse Crossing though so no horse Crossing folks no's to catch us all right everybody I really appreciate your time and and oh Yolanda uh Yolanda greeves 127 Prospect uh we as a select board haven't had a lot of discussion but Michael knows I've been Wan of the people saying I'm glad we're restoring the barn but what the heck are we going to do with this property I think one of the meetings we had many years ago I said the same thing so to all of you sitting here thank you for coming out for all of you watching and following us on Zoom however you're doing it my request as a select board remember but again this was not discussed is that if you have thoughts or ideas on what was presented on what was not presented please reach out to the select board reach out to Michael give us your thoughts because we've only heard from a handful of people as to what you think about these ideas we had one idea presented that was great use it Park and wreck the only way as Kate has told us all is that to to to really get community involvement we need to hear from the community this was one Forum I I would suspect that as we get more information and we start making you know some ideas based on what we've heard there'll be another Forum we need your input we need we need you to push back on ideas when you need to say oh this I liked this I didn't like this works this doesn't work a discussion about traffic a discussion about sidewalks a discussion about all the things that are going to be impacted you know the idea that we can we do something with our Community Theater can we do something with our Arts can we do something with our inhome business people so I would ask that if you've been to this a forum give us your ideas talk to people get it back to the select board and to Michael because that's how we can make a decision and I don't think any of us want to wait another year before we do something we have the barn finished what can we be doing with it and with the property thank you email SEL one more comment sorry yeah this will be my last I promise has anyone thought of having a meeting at the bottom and so people can actually see it and feel it and it so Robin's question for those uh that couldn't hear is have we thought about having a meeting at the barn um we've thought about it but with the parking situation and some of the the other the other limitations of it you're going to open up your field okay well then we might have saw the are you sure about that Robin okay I'm going to let you and Cynthia talk about that and then we'll reconvene how's that say was $20 to yeah 20 bucks it'll go it'll go fundraising it'll be part of fundraising okay Diane montros yep hi um so um I guess it would be helpful to if you could recap next steps I know um I know the the request is made to um provide feedback to the select select board um it'd be helpful to understand like who do we reach out to is there an email address um what are what are what's the timeline around next steps is there another meeting do you have that information so Diane we haven't scheduled another meeting but if you want to provide feedback the best way to do it would be to provide it over email and that is Select board at Ashland mass.com and so all the select board members would get that as well as myself and Jen ball and uh Susan and Diane in our office so that would be the best way to provide feedback and we don't have a meeting scheduled yet okay all right thank you everyone uh this has been a good discussion I appreciate all the ideas and um we will see you at the next meeting Rob you're going to close the yeah again well thank you Michael and thank you thank you Doug one and Doug two uh for all your for all your help tonight what's that which is W yeah Cliff you had to say that right yeah so anyway uh this has been a great uh um okay quiet down you crowd uh so thank you all for coming and thanks for the people online and just to follow up I think Yolanda started uh did talk about uh getting information to us I'm pretty sure we're going to put this on on the agenda for the next meeting unless I hear some OB c s but I don't think so so we'll do some followup and and talk about next steps and uh so meanwhile feel free to uh continue get getting us that information so um without further Ado I'll is there a motion to adjourn here by I I didn't actually see did oh did she is there a second okay all those in favor of AD Journey say I I thank you all good night thank you
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um because although homework might be excused tests might not be assigned necessarily but it in the importance of being in the classroom and getting that feedback from the teachers and your peers around is so important and is so tragic to lose and having to like weigh that like do I honor my family or my studies can I can I ask you a question yes um cuz I don't remember this and I don't understand what's up there do you want me to help yes okay so we took all four schools and we looked at on these um three holidays um over a couple years what is in general across 180 days the average number of dismissals the average attendance and the average number of tardies and then we looked at these holidays and said is there a significant difference and so um D devali um you see that there was an upti and dismissals but at the end of the day our attendance and do sh is pretty excellent so 22% increases is really only two kids oh whereas Pine Hill had 11% increase in tardies which equates to two students if you look at Lunar New Year the only one school that had a statistical well not even statistical a uptick in attendance um variation was the middle school I don't know what happened on that day but we had 16 tardies um and then eight uh early dismissals and um Eid no no substantial shifts and it what that's interesting average attendance would be so this is where I get like two in my brain to so is that statistically significant or is that not based on our typical attendance I would say it's it's not because the numbers are so little our is so good could be in a day right I also I'm sorry it is interesting to compared to the 40% of responders of the survey who said that they would like a combination or they need the accommodations compared to those who are actually taking the day off right it also depends on whether these days fall on a Friday or Monday and somebody might be taking a long weekend um there was one year something fell on the 22nd of December so then people were out the 22nd the 23rd and then all the way through whether or not they celebrated that holiday I don't know that was a huge uptick but we kind of took that as people just extending the winter break um okay this data shows this was from our research shows comparable uh top districts to our district and the uh holidays that they celebrate um so two that I want to point out is Welsley and hackington they both uh acknowledge all the holidays that we do as well as Dali Lunar New Year and Eid and could we just not get the data for conquer they don't dashes me they don't yeah whatever Dash the dash they don't have and then these are districts um that have only mandated so secular calendars um and then these are local private schools that um and the holidays that they take off in addition to in addition to secular okay so when including the mandated holidays and the other holidays included our calendar we currently attend 181 school days and this is the proposed like the assumed day of scheduled ending with snow days and without snow days in the next upcoming 10 years and then if you add the three days that are in the three holidays that are in consideration which is the Lunar New Year devali and Eid it actually only averages out to about 2 days added on to each um year because sometimes they might fall in the weekends or in already School scheduled breaks with only like uh up in like 2032 being like the de the year the only year in the next 10 years that all three days would be added whereas in 2027 only one more day would be added so that's an interesting to think about yes yeah and that doesn't include um we could decide to drop it from 181 to 180 although I understand there may be some issues with um professional days yes we'd have to negotiate the professional days yeah yeah so that's not necessarily a done deal I'm not saying we necessarily think that's a good idea but if we did that then each of the numbers at the bottom would go down by one if that were to be considered then it would only be an average of one day added to the calendar so quick question because we haven't really approved calendars this far forward did you get the we Haven right um did you get the end date with how do you choose the starting date was it August 30th every year or what did you the Wednesday before Labor Day that's what you chose con this Denny and I perfect Friday night project he on his couch M me on mine and we just split it up thank you do we have any data about how frequently we've had snow days over the past I don't know five years or whatever I'm just looking at like 628 versus 621 for example in 2627 doesn't seem like a big difference but and it came through in some of the comments right Pine Hill doesn't have air conditioning which I know is a whole another conversation that we're having but it's a it's a difference so I'm curious how frequently or if there's any sense of like how often do we even have snow B it seems like not very often not very often I mean I've been a parent in the district now for 11 years and I can't think of a year that we had more than two okay 2015 yeah 2015 we had like one a week for six weeks but but now I think with the extreme temperature that you're experiencing we can't really rely on not having yeah and another variation too is depending on um the year and where um Christmas which is a federally Mand holiday and New Year's fall which is also a Fally mandated holiday sometimes we get only a week off for winter break sometimes we get two so that pushes things out too like next year we get well depending on what you decide could have two full weeks and then like juneth is probably impacting that 262 it pushes you out last day of school Monday that nobody right nobody wants everybody's get that right any other questions no um and then these are just general agreements as like a school account uh task force we came up with so we want to educate students about various holidays as they occur throughout the year um one of the proposals tonight is adding only three holidays but then we want to also include education about all the holidays that might occur and that students in our community might celebrate um we want to also ensure that students and faculty adhere to school committee policies relative to attendance and cours work on and around various holidays um and consider the impact of scheduled athletic events and extracurricular activities on and around various holidays because some any holidays that aren't cons considered a day off from school there could be an athletic event scheduled on that day uh you also thank strong community support for starting December vacation on or before the 24th not necessarily for religious reasons but rather to extend uh the break and um of course you all have that decision to decide when it starts and when it doesn't but um the 24th is not included in federal inated holidays and then this is the school committee's policy imdc um teachers should use good judgment and be especially sensitive to the feelings of students who might not wish to partic ipate for religious reasons requests for excusal and school activities associated with these holidays should be granted when students are absent from school for the purpose of religious observances during religious holidays is it it is expected that one teachers should not in good faith conduct special or unique activities which will cause those students to miss out on an important curriculum event two teachers should not in good faith administer quizzes test or tests on that day uh three teachers will homework expectations reasonable and the due date will be extended as needed to allow for religious observances four teachers will provide opportunity and time to make up any work missed on that day as defined in the student handbook five teachers will give extra help and additional support to those who requires such attention and finally six teachers will not in good faith require projects or long-term assessments due on the day or of or the day after a religious holiday so as Fredick mentioned we conducted a second survey which um I guess if I just boil it down we just wanted to see what our community members preferred so um our first option was only the federally mandated holidays our second option was the status quo and our third option was the ad three option so the Lunar New York duali and e um and as you can tell obviously students the overwhelming majority chose adding three of those holidays um for our families they preferred the status quo and for our staff um they also uh preferred the same and then we also wanted to see what we want to do with Friday did we want to have it a school day off an early release or um actually have school on that day and students again they wanted that day off um the families wanted it a school day and the staff preferred the early release sorry can I ask a question I'm really hung up on these numbers a little bit I'm just trying to understand is this a fair representation of our community like having 436 responses and 1,200 families these numbers are statistically significant the the average days absent is not just because the way these are signicant okay just put in perspective the library just did a survey and they got 10% of the population and are pretty happy with it yeah and and being someone who gives a lot of surveys this is high for us that's what I'm trying to this is an important topic yeah I'm trying to understand like yeah and so I just wanted to also um synthesize what we found from these surveys um and a quote that was particularly um uh that stood out to all of us was um a quote from the staff who said that the most Equitable solution is to create a cular or federal holiday calendar and that their suggestion was that the high school should create a no assessment calendar that recognizes the need for students to be able to take a day off without worry that they will fall behind with regards to making up assessments um and then if we also go on to the parents um another quote that also stood out to us was um a parent saying that giving the increasing diversity in our community that they personally believe that it would work best to remove all non-federal holidays um as it would allow us to treat all religions and cultural holidays equally and give everyone a fair opportunity to request accommodations as needed um and those were the two um quotes that I really wanted to highlight because that's what um the calendar task force was also um talking about in our conversations um and then also just the considerations um for this betterly mandated holidays only option was the consistent consistency of learning throughout the year um our access to learning um prior to Spring mcast and a which is huge in all three of our our schools um and also with um the air conditioning at Pine Hill I know a teacher did bring up um in the survey that um they wanted a shorter year so that they don't have to teach students in the hot building um because it' be easier and also Al families would need that additional child care in case um a caregiver or a parent um needs to go to work on a day that school's off and then also students and families have greater option for the summer travels summer programs especially in like high school when all all of those start up and then also um like summer camp and everything and then another thing was the last day of from June 10th to June 16 assuming that there are no school days as Amber talked about and then also the DS with children in the district in the other districts may have conflicting schedules so yeah any questions so it's kind of like the pros the fact and the cons yeah why don't we just air condition Pine hilling I'm [Music] just Judy come to the next Sherburn school meeting the Front Row community comments [Music] Judy all right miss me guys hope you did if you didn't this to be a short part so all right so um I think this first quote is rather indicative of the general student attitude um I don't celebrate any of these holidays I just want days off really um so this is a terrible time in history to dishonor the Jewish people by taking away School observations and their holidays uh creting SCH calendar only does only that it does not actually remove any Christian holidays from the calendar um this could represent some backlash that could be received if um the first option could be taken um another thing which um I think does actually go to something that was in the first part is generally lean towards a floating holiday type approach where only the federal holidays or given holidays but the programming is very late on days like Good Friday um I don't know why this is in this slide this sounds rather on the first points but it also does show some support on this side for um having it so that even with the keeping the status quo there's still a movement to have it so that kids can still Advocate and have days have the sort of the no test schedule um it's helpful for my family um oh it's helpful for my family if these holidays are in line with our districts um I'm a teacher in holl in public schools and it can be difficult to find um child care when our holidays um end in Starks don't match um thanks for taking on this issue so some parents um what like having the more continuity between different School District calendars and the status and the status quo is decently in line with them so let's go to the considerations um so the first big one is um it does not increase Equity or inclusivity of additional cultures um/ religions which we have stated earlier um is a concern among students and is also one of the AIM of our committee um but other thing on the other hand this doesn't really going into adding more holidays this doesn't have doesn't really pick and choose between which holidays to add um also this whole a plurality vote with family and staff and this would also I'm guessing be more desirable to people especially the very overwhelming students who want to have more days added I'm going to infer that they'd rather have the status quo maintained than lose days so I think what this really comes down to is there two conflicting things coming from students on one hand they've indicated they do not want um days um these holidays taken off their calendar but they're also indicating that they want more um Equity um to be brought on onto the calendar and I think from just the um perspective of this committee um I think we should be focusing on a f aiming on um representing more equity and religious and religions and cultures but that's for you guys to decide by looking at this data I personally say if you were to go with status quo I do think that you should Implement a part of the first consideration the first um a consideration or first proposal first proposal of taking them off of having it so that kids um are more encourage to be able to go to their teachers and let them know that they have a holiday they're celebrating that day and for them the teachers to understand that and also schedule their calendars around that so that those days are less pressured all right um next one who's that what button is it um it's the the down button goes down the most confusing thing I've ever seen in my life yeah so these were some of the comments that we received from the second survey about adding um more holidays so I'll just read a couple of them um this one this first one is talking about um the projections seem to make it that adding the three holidays have very little impact on the length of the school year and some educationally strong schools have already included these holidays since such holidays uphold diversity and most likely don't majorly affect education it seems like a good idea to incorporate them um and then there's some support for taking off a couple of the holidays this is a student who wants a day off after Halloween glad um there's also a comment about how days off can be beneficial for students health um breaking up education a little bit sometimes to give people a little bit of time to relax um and catch up on work with extracurriculars and everything and um this is a comment from staff at the end of the day we can't do it all but I believe having these holidays off from school will significant significantly help create Windows and mirrors for our students especially students who may not currently feel seen um this is actually one comment um it's very long so um just going to read some short Snippets of it so um let see there's something powerful about inclusion and I think it's something that Doan Community could use some more of to remove all excess holidays would be to say there's too much diversity that we cannot include all of it um that is not the Dober Shan I've come to know and love um and then going on further um if we want to honestly say that people of all different walks of life are welcome in this community we need to show that by actually welcoming welcoming them into our community we don't need to strio tenants and values that we've held forever but we can alter them in order to accept we must integrate new families into our own um so yeah this is right and these are some considerations when thinking about adding three holidays so um some of the pros would be that additional religions and cultures are recognized with um more days off and also uh students appreciate opportunities to um rest and to complete work in those few scattered days out days off throughout the year um and then again this is um the last day of school would range from the 18th to the 23rd of June without snow days um if we did add these holidays oh and another thing that I want to mention is that from the second survey for people who chose status quo we don't have information on what their second choice would be um this is something in personal conversations that I've had people who chose status quo they had different opinions on what their second choice would be after that and we don't necessarily have the data on what that choice would be um and then this is some of the cons um that there are still some religions and cultures that would not be recognized um there are families who would require child child care um and would need to find that to accommodate these extra days um and then the lack of air conditioning at the Pine Hill again might be a concern and um there's a potential potential delay with the dates of senior activity graduation and these are just a la last few thoughts um so there's also support for adding in some orthodox holidays so this again some of the people who have other holidays that aren't um being considered in these proposals but there are other people in the district who have other religious observances um this one is talking about making room for non- judeo-christian holidays currently the of the religious holidays that we um are not mandated that we celebrate those are judeo-christian holidays so making room for some other ones also prior prioritizing days off for um fasting holidays that could be strenuous on the people we celebrate um and then the Halloween one again oh and this is me all right so um we had 20 people on the task force initially um and number of reasons we kind of dwindled over time and this represents I believe 18 of us um so as you can see if you ask the people who went on this 14-hour journey together um after looking at the data reading all the comments having conversations learning about other religions and cultures and rituals um 55% of them um are leaning towards having a secular calendar where we only celebrate mandated um holidays uh 28% are in favor of adding the three holidays and 16 or 177% are in favor of the status quo um their recommendation relative to Good Friday is really only change it if you're going to add threee holidays um then make it an early release day that said this is a this is a data point we we talked about this we know there's a difference between a majority and a consensus so you can see with majority opinion is consensus it says you know not everybody agrees but everybody can live with it and that was not the case of our committee there were certainly people on our committee who said I cannot live with a um secular calendar we can't give you an official vote tonight because we are very split um that said we're 14 hours ahead of this journey I think that this group um did a great job of modeling for our community what constructive civil discourse can look like um what learning and listening to others can look like and so I encourage you to engage in that tonight if you need more time um to to engage in that and perhaps with others moving forward um because certainly um I think this grou did a great job and appreciate all of the work that you did and all the conversations and the last pie I want to mention is what fascinating is many of us came in May with one idea of the calendar that we thought would be best 69% of the committee changed their n their mind between May and now because of the conversations because of the discourse so see there's power in listening and learning so we leave the next steps up to you about how much time you need to process what other data and research you might need that we can help you with or that you can collect on your own um as a side note I've talked to several superintendents um who have all of these different calendars so I'm happy to give provide you insight into what they offer in all three situations um but before we turn it over to you I just want to thank our students for coming tonight I just add to what you said in to being so thankful for all of your time and people who aren't here his time I think we should pause and recognize how awesome it is that our community would have this conversation it's not easy yeah not says a lot I also wanted to thank our students and also um I was on the task force and I learned a lot from all the members and I really appreciate everybody's uh volunteer work in that and I also wanted to command you for leading us through this it was you did an amazing job um um leading the whole task force making sure that we are all getting engaged in really helpful conversations with uh while being respectful thank you right well thank you I'm proud of you all I'm sure you have other things you need to do um it's not easy to get up in front of 18 adults um you have a lot to be proud of and a lot of bragging to do abely thank you for coming Youk you [Applause] question for you related to some of the comments on this as far as families having trouble with with child care and such one of the ones that I think as I was reading through it somebody was pointing out the Wednesday half days what's the history on why Wednesday why Wednesday because um I think that the point of early Rel days is to provide Educators with opportunities for professional development and there is a lot more brain power on a Wednesday than a Friday afternoon and we know that if we make it a Friday or a Monday attendance is going to decrease significantly because people will go away for long weekends and take ski weekends before my time Pine Hill used to have or the elementary used to have how many Elementary had every wi every now we at 10 so counter Blas I need does every other like every other week but it was curious did somebody put the comments um when I was reading them like why don't we have these on Fridays like where it would be less disruptive or for the family because they might have somebody more available on a Friday to to help out so a history question yeah can I ask how those are counted are those counted as full days or does two days okay yeah I have the same question to confirm that the half day counts as a day yes y but that's where the Hours come in you have to make sure that the total yeah the good news is 00 um we're supposed to have 900 hours at the elementary level right now we're at 955 with the half days with the half days so we're 55 hours you know more of teaching and learning at that um a secondary level we need 990 and we're at um basically 10:30 so there is room to play with the half days if we want yeah I just want to um make a suggestion um and I'm going to preface this by saying I was on the Stark times committee and many of you were on school committee then or or lived in this town and knew how difficult that process was making that decision was a lot easier for me than um grappling with the issues that arise when you're discussing um these issues particularly in the context of what's been going on in the world and so my suggestion is that we we take some time to do a little learning maybe have a workshop and bring in some speakers who can talk to some of these issues and and then come up with a framework for maybe discussing it in our individual committies maybe coming back together and discussing it um but but it's really a tough issue and I had had a great deal of difficulty on this committee everybody but me was really civil and nice and I had no I'm serious I'm serious I had to ask Beth to M mute me okay and then she'd unmute herself I know but but but I just think you know we we all come to this with certain sort of knee-jerk reactions without necessarily hearing the opposing the opposing views I think everybody everybody wants the same things you know everybody wants to get out of school the beginning of June and everybody wants Christmas Eve off and everybody wants to wants diversity equity and inclusion um how do we get there and I don't have the answer but I think as a collective group that that path for me would seem um reasonable and I've done a lot of thinking about this over the last year so that's all question what prompted this evaluation like what I wasn't around like why did we start this investigation so if we go back to the first slide um so at our September joint meeting last year um uh so like a year and a half ago and then at this meeting last year when we were talking about the calendars there was Community comments from um both students many of the same ones that you saw here and families requesting that we look at additional holidays um and then the whole idea you know of thinking about the equity audit and what is equity what is inclusivity is it going rolling forward and adding holidays is it rolling back so that some aren't left out Andre I have a question and I'm probably going to be the least person in the room but that won't be the first time so the thing that I was wondering because I know we have the two breaks the February and April and when I arrived here like the school that where I came from I came from Georgia we only have one in March so I know that everybody does the two breaks but does like alleviating any of that I know it's not a popular view but it is two two two weeks that are in there in 2011 we actually looked at that because I was on the calendar committee at the time and when staff like February and April breaks that was I mean time has changed but those breaks are needed I'll tell you being in a school distri like we're like when that ail break and it's also March is hard with the mcast so there's there's conflicting and it's also hard when we looked at our staff and where they lived it's going to be impossible unless the whole state moves that direction true you can't break from that I'm sorry cuz I know too like for the senior cuz my daughter when she was a senior remember the whole thing too like she was up behind but they had to like hoof it to get to the AP exam because you know people in other regions they've started school before so they're ahead of them and so they're you know they're really cramming that stuff in because our kids have started like 3 weeks later I mean there's just I know there's a lot of things but you know when you look at the totality of it all there's a whole lot that you know and I I do think we need to look at all the dates but we also need to look about the learning loss for the high schoolers cuz we're also going to have to kind of cram more in if we take more off so I've got to figure out where where we going to take other days from to kind of compensate for those days yeah so and that's what makes it so complicated yeah I know I have a Smo of questions my first is so we already recognize some non-secular holidays are not federal mandated holidays how did those get added to the calendar when why what was that process institutional historian Don ftor is going to take this my kids started here back in the Dark Ages we didn't have we actually we actually didn't have Good Friday we didn't have we had a real a secular calendar we didn't have Good Friday or I mean obviously Christmas because that's when the winter break started um and their don't know the exact history was a parent of chicker but they almost had a sick out um on a good Friday and the superintendent had to call a snow day yeah um because there wasn't enough staff and that that sort of in the the next year's calendar had the Jewish holidays and Good Friday that leads me to the my next statement so I started like grapple I mean this is not easy and it's hard to figure out it's challenging to figure out what to include what not to include everybody loses which brought me to learning about The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment and I think really helps to navigate this and draw some lines for what could help us feel like we are making a more fair Equitable decision I don't know if everybody has read it I'm happy to read it out loud but in learning about that I personally would like to hear from our legal counsel and what their take is on it I am not a lawyer and and I don't know that any of us are in education lot but I think that is our responsibility to look into on the next step yeah I to and again that that another level of complexity because um you know Liz and I talked about this and I did a little research on it and and it's not even clear right you know and and I don't think tonight is the night to necessarily get into the nitty-gritty of it but again that's something we need to learn about and think about our values in terms of that and I think that's a really you know Congress shall not make any laws to establish religion for the United States well I Angie is over there smiling and she and I can go on and on about this and Martha is not here here but it's complicated but you're right it does in some sense give us some framework you know yeah I just think when I mean when you start talking about Congress for me that's like oh my God I don't really know but when I read how it applies to public schools and holidays I think it gives us some things to talk about like it sounds like was sort of part of the process before which is school couldn't open there was an undue burden if we roll it back are we setting oursel up for snow days if and how do we decide is that true for these other holidays I don't know if it's even true in our district currently for let's say the Jewish holidays so feel like some exploration needs to be done in terms of next steps on that path since I was on the task force I just wanted to see if if you guys want to hear my journey going through this so um when I started um volunteering for task force uh for calendar task force then I on that day last year we heard about uh in the community comment we heard students standing up asking for um their holidays specific holidays to be off um my first reaction was like why not it's great to see more holidays to include more cultures and uh religions in our calendar learn about it and be more inclusive so I started the task force in September we started our conversation and um at first when I started thinking about it the um logistic issues came to to my mind like Pine Hill doesn't have air conditioning even maybe two additional days it's not fair to those kids and staff um Child Care issue um all sorts of logistic issues that we can always find a solution so I kind of moved on and then um we went through the first um uh survey and I learned about all the different religions in our community how diverse our community is becoming and um all the cultures not only religions but also cultures in our community and how many different holidays there there are and then my question was like okay how we picking how we are prioritizing where we are drawing the line if you go to slide 32 that crazy graph I think is it one with the this religions so I mean demographic it's very um it changes all the time it's not something that um like we can look at this today and then the upcoming year might be totally different because like two families move out of the district and then five families join the district and the whole uh demog demographics will change and then if where we draw the line like the numbers are very close the it it's just very hard for me to think how we are prioritizing where we are drawing the line is it right to draw a line and then are we monitoring it and then in 3 years we say oh this population dropped the line should we remove the holiday and add the other holiday because that population increased so these all came to my mind and then all of these um also I was thinking um imagine a child looking at the school calendar and see many or few holidays on the calendar being observed uh in the district and their holiday is not there when that child look at that calendar the whole uh process of di that we are trying to implement will will be questioned in her in their mind but so that's what came to my mind and I don't know the right answer and I know that um going to federal holidays it's not federal holidays are not secular so it still would not be completely um Equitable right so that's reality and then the most Equitable option would be um um I mean the closest as we can get to being Equitable is federal holiday but I absolutely understand um the um um other issues with keeping the going back to the federal hit and goie that's those are excellent points and it really points out the horrible complexity of the issue I remember talking to Beth and Beth saying well I could convince myself of any of these and frankly as a lawyer I could argue any of them um I there's one thing though that I do want to point out as a data point and and I'm and I'm trying not to make any arguments here because I think we should be exploring next steps instead of arguing what we want but I I I hearken back to the equity audit which said 70% of our um you know of the constituents and that was a statistically well done you know want us to move forward boldly with Equity um diversity and inclusion but but gold exactly what you just said what is inclusion um and we're all informed with it with our own life experiences and when I grew up it was really difficult taking off rashash sh and yum Kipper and being you know one of like three kids in the school who did that and you know I I I just I think Dennis I'm sorry I don't mean to hijack things as I usually do um but maybe do we want to sort of talk about process I was going to ask if there's any more sort of new information or questions that folks wanted to get here and then maybe throwing out some ideas on next steps I I saw Jesse first and then I don't know if if I'm going to get you to where you want to go with that but I do want I want to make one point one kind of story um that may help with reference so I just worked on something very similarly for a state considering what languages to include for all state-based applications like anybody that's enrolling in any state based service and it came through a diversity Equity inclusion lens they're very conscious of that and we ultimately had to come down through a series of questions of what is what's our threshold for acceptance you know at what point do we want to just say this isn't going to impact the majority of our people so we at this point in time it doesn't makes sense to include and then after that what can we do for the additional populations who were not going to include the language what can we do to make the process easier for them so for example the vast majority of the state speaks three languages after that point there's only a very small sub section of people that speak those languages so we decided as a state not to include any additional languages it's a three majority of the languages and then to consider other sorts of support and services to help the people that do um speak other languages to get them the services and sports across the state that they needed so that was just one I guess approach that we thought because again you're never going to you're never going to please anyone but it created a benchmark and a metric and sort of a threshold that felt right for the state so if we can somehow create parameters around scaffolding around that as a concept that might help but so we're not swirling I have um I I mean I totally understand what you're saying but that's the Practical thing it's very different than a 13-year-old feeling left left out sure but we're always going to be there right like I we can try so I think is I saw a couple other hands is additional information
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2024-01-31 Naugatuck Valley Planning Region, CT YouTube / CPS Video transcript source: youtube Special Board of Education Meeting 1-30-24 · passage 1
good evening ladies and gentlemen um we are calling the special meeting of the Board of Education to order Mr jinsky roll call please here thank you please rise for the pledge ALG to the flag of the United States of America and to the repblic for stand indivisible andice thank you um so on the agenda there is not a item that states public comment but I know in past practice we've allowed for public comment I just want to follow the rules I'm kind of a rule follower so I'd like for a motion to amend the agenda for a public comment Mr White second Dr herrian thank you if there are any persons in the audience that would like to make public comment please come to the microphone oh I apologize see I told you that uh like a vote to amend the agenda to add in public comment all in favor all in favor it's unanimous thank you hey if there are any members of the audience that would like to comment please come up to the mic and state your name um address and make your comments hello oh um Kristen haza 494 B radmir Road here in chesher I'm also the high school German teacher um my students would be amazed for me to be standing here because this is really terrifying for me to stand in front of a bunch of kids is fine but in front of adults being an introvert this is tough but I really really just wanted to come up here and let you know thank you for all your support the um the board of vet has given our program in the in the years past and to come but I just wanted to also um put a good word out there for Angela of all the hard work that she's been doing that a lot of what has happened in the upper levels of the high school right now could not have been done or reached without the foundation that the kids have received here at DOD and I also wanted to um wonder about the if it is being just at the high school what is that going to look like when the kids can only take four years of a language and that way they would not be able to reach the AP or ECE level so we would have to get rid of those classes as well um but basically I just wanted to come up here and thank you you for all your work that you've done in now um in the past now and in the future and to let you know that she really has made a good foundation for the program at the high school so thank you thank you Miss Dr heran oh I'm sorry apologies hi Flagler R here in chesher um sorry I don't love talking to adults either um I just also wanted to support Angela um my son is in eighth grade here at DD he is German is his absolute favorite class Angela is his favorite teacher I would say um his the success that he's seen in German has carried him through in all his other classes as well like it has made such a difference for him in his confidence he has a he uh talked to our high school German teacher last week about um you know going forward and going through the AP classes and taking um classes at Yukon you know he he really uh this has made him make a plan for his future just the German program alone and um has made him more motivated in his other classes so I would really hate to see uh other kids including my two younger children lose the opportunity um to do that in German if that's the language they choose so thank you thank you for everything thank you hi uh Rebecca reev 85 Brier Court in chesher um and I'm also a parent of two children who are currently in the German program uh one eighth grader in dot as well and one sophomore in the high school so I just wanted to speak in support of having German as an option at the middle school level um my children are German um through their grandmother of origin and so we were always really impressed coming to chesher that this was offered at the middle school like it kind of like blew our mind so it's really disappointing to hear that it might go away um obviously I understand there's a lot more to it than just I can see but just wanted to really speak in support of having that as an option and and as supporting fra G as well she's been amazing my kids also really love German and are looking forward to continuing it all throughout their High School career so thank you thank you hi my name is Karen Hayes and I'm at 40 prins Court in chesher and um I have three kids in the public schools two of them are in high school and one of them is in eighth grade and the two younger ones went through German because their older brother told him it was the best program that was offered for the foreign languages and he was right they both really love it and um fra G has made that experience for sure and um she just notices every chat child like mine are all so different but she takes the time to notice each one and to connect with each one and also to reach out to the parents whether you know positive or I would imagine negative too but we've only had really positive experiences with her um also I mean our family visited Germany this summer because of this because they've had such a great experience and wanted to practice their German and experience the culture and everything so it's not just the language but it's also kind of you know impacting their life and um frogi is just like a teacher you want your children to have so it would definitely be detrimental um I also in just listening to the budget thing prior I am a huge fan of Varsity Sports my kids all well two that are in high school both play Varsity Sports but the boys volleyball team has been a club since I was at the high school so I'm wondering if maybe Fen and could continue as a club um but yeah I just really support the German program it is unique and it's been beneficial to my children as well hello uh my name is Anthony delviso I reside at 37 Stratton Drive in chesher um I also have an eighth grader at Dodd who studies under Mrs uh gulia medy um he is very fond of the German class and um I think that the loss of German is um a a loss of opportunity for students um I am a software engineer by trade and growing up I found that I received a lot of um sorry this is a very loose collection of thoughts that I did not have very uh that I did not prepare but as a software engineer um my job is to essentially translate ideas from one medium to another um taking ideas in English and translating it into computer code not so much different than taking an idea in English and translating it into another language be it German or Latin or Spanish French or even Italian growing up I thought that going into this career that mathematics was the way to go for me as a software engineer but it's not necessarily the case there's a lot more to stem than just pure mathematics and Linguistics and the study of languages is very much um uh a part of software engineering in one way or another that doesn't seem that intuitive when you think about it on the surface um I support Mrs gami and I think that she is a great um benefit to the chesher public school system and as a recently new resident of chesher one of the things that I've come to learn is that the strength of cheshire's Public School Systems is in its faculty and the loss of any faculty it is just kind of it's it's a travesty in a way so I wanted to thank you all for your time and um appreciate the work that you do my name is halan new 85 RA chra in chesa um I'm a proud parent of for Gman owner students uh I have three boys and then one is just recently graduate franchia high school and as with the owner in German um one of the uh I also have two other twins uh also twin boys and then they are in German and you wonder why because their older brother told them that if you ever want to have amazing memory of a school you should join German class and that's why so all my three boys are learning German and then interesting me I'm learning German too because I'm helping them stunning I got it for free um but the I want to tell you that how amazing experience we had as a family with fra G and fr house as well is that my oldest son right now is Val as a freshman he told me that the most amazing experience he ever had at chasa high school among all the classes he aced through is German class including D Middle School too and then what a inter me is that it teaches not just how you learn concept how you learn a language but also how you try to understand other human beings which I really really think if you should consider is that once we go through the pandemic we sort of lost that sense of inct with each other uh I need through my kids I feel that way because they are connected with the device and they lose that sense of connection but learning that Gman class using very interactive uh uh course schedule and having a lot of interesting project really bring those case together and also brought their Horizon to say their other culture they need to embrace to become a global citizen rather than just narrow-minded a person I feel my son my older son really beneficial that Gman project a lot I learned so much just by watching him create amazing video clips actually enable him starting to develop his interest in um music production uh right now is his major in college and he all started with a Gman class and I cannot believe that actually leading to that he chos his uh College passway into music production fra G is amazing teacher I have a personal uh family very uh challenged T well my case are in down Middle School one of my twins uh had uh been bullied in the uh in the school hway and he was punching in the head and had a concussion and subsequently got a depression that period time was darkest in my whole life ever he actually was Hospital IED uh for a while because of the depression during that period time his goto person there's only like one or two teacher he would go to ask for deep down help one of them is frogy and then frogi is go beyond what she was supposed to be and really help my family and my case going through that very difficult period of time my when I heard about this news today I only got to know about this today I feel like decision poty is already been made and I know budgeting is very complicated uh process in general I'm going through that for my department uh for my work as well but I just want to voice that you know the importance of a teacher impact on a person is beyond just what on the surface and and I'm I would pay a million dollars if I have to keep her over here because she is not just being a teacher he's being uh how do I say that it's that it brings life back to my kids to really re Inspire them to do something interesting my younger kids who suffer from that period of depression finally get on his foot he's able to regain his confidence that regain that interacting with other case after that period difficult time and then all that through very secretly interaction with fra G that getting that full support that for for beyond the language uh uh teaching class I was super super impressed and about how we actually been supported as the family through chasia public school system because I feel like I couldn't survive that period of time without the teachers and then the whole supporting system we have in chasia public school district I I'm very grateful for that but I also very heartbroken to know that you know her position is being eliminated given how much we appreciate and then giving how much my kids I actually enjoying through the years of education with her and all together with the the German class in general so I want you possibly reconsider but I also want to voice that it's so important that um as a teacher she's Beyond just language art teacher it's has a profound impact for case growth thank you so much thank you any other audience members who'd like to speak thank you um so at this time I'd like to open it up to the finance committee for an update on what was discussed prior to this meeting thank you chair [Music] um so um I really appreciate hearing I I need to First say I really appreciate hearing from the people who spoke at the mic I know that it is very difficult to do that it's not the same thing as being a teacher in front of and speaking with your students um I've gotten more comfortable over the years because I've been on this board for eight years but it but it takes a long time to and I'm still not entirely comfortable speaking in front of other adults even though my students are adults because I'm at the college level um I appreciate people um in support of foreign languages because they do all uh learning foreign language students learning foreign language it does so much for for who they are as a person and um the relationship to math and engineering and all of those other um other subject areas and also just to the development of of students as people and as they grow um I'm a language teacher as I said myself I teach French at quinc University and um I see the hard decisions that we make all the time at the college level too it boils down to um budgets and finance and um sometimes hard decisions are made but I also wanted to give a big shout out to um the high school German program and we have seen in curriculum committee meetings all the wonderful things they're doing and the exchange programs with the students student exchanges so I I feel pretty confident that German is going to continue to thrive at the high school and I'm saddened also that um it won't be an offering maybe it won't be an offering at the middle school but um but I do support this budget that the the uh finance committee has moved forward to the board of EDS so with that um I will just reiterate our motion the finance committee has moved to submit to the full Board of Education the proposed budget for fiscal year 20242 of 9, 67,69 an increase of 5,741 180 over this year's budget thank you Dr heran are there any board members who have questions or comments on what has been moved to the full board that we should or second that motion that was just moved second Mrs cullinan second second thank you discussion Mr GLE um I would like to make an amendment to that motion sure um I would like to amend uh that the uh so how do I word this that the uh proposed budget for uh 2425 uh be uh be changed from 90 million 06769 to um 89 mil5 [Music] 11,511 uh a total reduction of 62 $754 I can go through the detail if you'd like I'm not sure um repeat that number yeah uh which one 89 89 m511 uh 51 so that would be a proposed so a proposed increase of$ 4,518 82 I believe that has to be seconded and then we can is there any detail are there before hand can you give us the details on it sure okay um so so we in discussion on the motion was it Tim did Tim second yeah I seconded whatever a second okay can just outline your proposal Mr GLE um so some of this is composed of uh estimation um as uh Dr Solen had I think I mentioned a few minutes earlier that um you know some of the uh the figures that we have to use aren't set in stone and so U you know sometimes you have to guess so I'm I'm using some historical information and um some of the other information I don't know if I captured everything entirely um so firstly um I included um eight retirements which is our average um for normally every year um I also assume a savings per position of $30,000 assuming that there are new hires uh Dr Sona said that that might be more challenging so again that's a fluctuating number uh so that would be a reduction that's uh line 113 reduction 240,000 um the uh the savings on the uh uh German uh teacher position uh line 13 13 11,200 um the um uh reduction of the former or formerly Grant funded uh math coach at the secondary level of 880,000 um the addition of uh the uh two stem teachers um a um a is that a plus or minus uh that is an addition an addition of 100 60,000 sorry that's not a proposed reduction that is not that is proposed addition yes so what what this essentially does it it it adds the uh what do we call it pre-engineering and Science Program um it preserves or or it continues to add the uh fencing program um preserves all of our contractual obligations but has a in my opinion a more sensible uh increase to the budget um so um there would be a uh a reclam not a Reclamation but a reclaiming of uh uh three uh par educator vacancies that are currently unfilled um I my calculation for that was um they were full-time positions at uh minimum wage um and I don't know if they get paid if there's a benefit uh cost to them as well that I that I haven't C so this is just a salary savings are you factoring that on 40 hours or no uh 40 hours yes yeah so those are 28 and a half those are 28 and a half well I can adjust that downwards let's see hold on so what how many hours that Peri would you anyone know four no no no um uh what did you say 28 hours 28.5 28.5 all right what's the annual cost for one one of those vacancies you someone knows that off top of the head you can use 30,000 number 30,000 30,000 each yeah yeah okay oh well okay so that's what I was using so does that include does that include benefits as well okay so then I sort of uh mistake my way into that one I guess so I yeah so I had uh uh so I had $93,600 reduction there for those um open positions just not to be refilled um also with the the with the thought in mind that uh I know we had discussed uh last week that some of those positions uh could also be um trans transformed into Consolidated right yeah um uh let's see uh holding uh line 323 pupil service is flat so um according to this that would be a reduction of $ 77,78 um instructional Supply uh line 611 so this includes the uh the increase of 120,000 but not including the increase that was in the proposed budget um so that was so that is the 120,000 increase less holding the uh spending flat from last year so it's actually so it ends up being an increase of 70,000 so so it's the the incre proposed increase is 50,000 so I'm just taking that out and then okay um other uh purchased Services uh line 590 holding spending flat there U so that would be a reduction of $2,489 um and then I think the remainder of these are the ones that were already in the uh uh previous motion but I'll I'll read through them just to make sure see if I not double counting um Capital Equipment 732 line 732 reduction 5,000 uh tuition out placement uh reduction uh 125,000 that's line 569 um maintenance repair building line 40 uh line 430 reduction 50,000 maintenance repair and Equipment line 420 uh reduction 5,000 uh homebound um line item 115 a reduction 10,000 textbook so sofware line 641 reduction 15,000 replace uh replace equipment line 730 6250 reduction of 6250 new equipment 731 reduction 6250 and office supply 610 reduction 4235 for a total reduction of $6,750 for for a proposed increase of4 million 400 uh 4,588 58,800 which would be an increase of 5.32% 5.32 yes thank you any comment Mr White thank you Adam I'm just going to run I try to jot this down while you're going through it I want to see if I have the numbers the same so you said 620 overall including 244 anticipated teacher retirements 111 as recommended in the motion already for in relation to the Middle School German teacher 880,000 for uh math tutor who has been Grant funded for a couple years and the Grant's running out so it's never been funded by the chesher been funded yeah at the secondary level there there are currently two positions so one would be so there still be one you said 93 in 93,000 in relation to par educator positions that are have are vacant yes and have they been vacant all year just so we started the year with 20 vacancies I mean these are positions that we've identified is necessary uh through either the PPT process or um some other formal you process there were you know everybody's facing a shortage in those positions uh throughout the course of the year uh we've been able to hire and retain on folks so that there are currently eight vacancies as we sit here at the end of jun January those are still positions we're trying to fill um so if you know anybody but anyway um if you know they were not included in next year's budget maybe we would try and fill them if we do fill 100% then those people would be you the last three in would be let go at the end of the year okay all right so what I'm hearing you say these are my words not yours it's certainly not ideal your goal is to fill those fill those vacancies yep um but it has not been we've not been able to do that at this time yeah okay all right thank you I just want to keep running through to make sure I know what these yep understand this Adam um so what I got uh 21,000 for other services there were two other numbers in there and then after that you ran through the numbers in the existing motion yes there are two other numbers and tell me if that's all of them but I heard you mentioned 77,000 and 50,000 I'm not sure what those um maybe are were you talking about instructional Supply that was one of them that was 50,000 sorry I'm trying to jot this down yeah right so there was a uh proposed increase to instructional supply of 120,000 I propose that that that um number included an already proposed increase in the original budget the commissioner superintendent's proposed budget U so I just flatlined the original increase so there therefore the since we're going off this current motion it reduced it down to an increase of 70,00 ,000 on that line item so the The Proposal in the existing motion is to increase that line item in the budget by 120,000 and you're saying reduce that by 50 which will be a $70,000 increase for next year correct okay got it thank you no oh wait yeah okay and then the 77 what was that and I could have gotten it wrong I may uh 77 was just um a a flat line so no no increase in the spending no increase to to that line item which line item uh I'm sorry line item 323 pupil Services pupil Services is Jeff is that special ed people Services what is that yes what is um what's the impact on that and your what would your recommendation be how would that be affected that 77 for people services 77 on pupil Services um I don't know if you know Robin if you want to talk to this at all but basically you know that line is used as resources to support uh students with identified needs and I think you know part of the increase there was due to the fact that we if you recall are adding an intensive headed progr program at another classroom at Norton school um and that was really the impetus behind increasing that particular line and that is that doesn't cover the teacher but resource costs yeah no so from what but from what I recall the conversation about that that I mean I'm just thinking there's like state law involved and I have no idea I'm just looking to you Robin for a little bit more guidance on what that means in your opinion like if that's because my take away my take away on that the changing it from one classroom to two classrooms is that from your professional opinion it needed to happen for whatever reason not like like Beyond just your opinion but state law that's how I see special so basically yeah so we go through a legal process of identifying students with special needs and uh developing a plan in concert with parents and specialist uh General Educators there's a team that um identify students uh is with an identifying condition for special education services when the um the number of students that we have is such you know I know we've talked here before about uh the number at Highland qualifying for intens of special education services got high enough and it got to a place where we're realizing when we redistrict and dropped the number of students in that building uh in the next couple years the the numbers would be really disproportionate and we wanted to also try and educate students closer to their home yeah uh wherever we could and so given the number of students that are identified for that support service and where they live in our community we felt it was appropriate um to open another classroom at Norton and so that's part of where it is yeah I mean there is a legal compliance issue uh there's also a service issue there's also an overcrowding issue at Highland so there are a variety of issues that that feed into that okay thank you for that um yeah I mean I the transition the transition to school modernization is oh sure sure sure so um my thought process on that line on him excuse me geeez was not to eliminate the new program right uh it was uh I was just looking at the you know just the numbers that in 22 23 um we uh we expended 721 th000 and um it's it's unclear if the current budget was fully expended because it it went up to 786,000 in 2324 and so um it wasn't wasn't a matter of eliminating the unnecessary program it was just um I wasn't sure if the uh increase was arbitrary or not uh just you know if it was just a a fixed cost issue or if it was a matter of if is that 77,000 a uh is there a direct correlation in that increase I I can't tell you that it's quote a fixed cost Adam it's not a contractual increase that arrived at 77,000 this um resource pays for a lot of the evaluation services and Consultants um and uh specialed resources that we use to address the whole population I wouldn't say you know it would I apologize if it came off that this is only to cover for that Norton program and that's not a $77,000 investment but especially when you back out the teacher and Par educator support but this is um for services in part reflective in the growth that we've had in the elementary population um whereas middle and high school student population has remained stagnant we've had a growth not by percentage just in sheer number of students that are identified for supports services on the same percentage that we have General Ed growth but that requires more uh supports and services and the greater cost so when we scale that out um that's where the 77,000 comes from thank you sure sorry interrupt it's okay [Music] um what what I'm thinking Madam chair is uh I could just make some comments and then when the board votes I don't have to I'll try to avoid repeating anything um so I want to say thank you to all the um parents who came out in support of the in support of the Middle School German teacher fra Chi um I one the I think the dad is gone but he made some comments that really struck me he was talking about likening coding to learning to speak a language and that's I I've learned to speak a few languages in my life um and code as well and I found his I've never heard anyone say that before but I have agreed with that sentiment for years the benefit of learning languages that being said I want to uh commend the superintendent on innovation effectively what's going on here is the way I see it is that well something is potentially depending on how the board votes tonight something could go away Middle School German but we would also have an opportunity to expand stem program in the elementary schools and that actually is one of the reasons that I got on the board originally that motivated me to run because the world is changing I believe the world is changing dramatically faster and faster your Justin Trudeau comment um and getting government to be government's not normally known as being Nimble but we can change and we can innovate um and so I very much appreciate directionally what you're doing not about eliminating any program but uh doing new things I appreciate that and I appreciate you supporting it Madam chair it's I think it's a big deal um so you know I could make um I could make motions and change things on the margins I have I don't have any desire to do that tonight um I will say I said before a couple months ago particularly in relation to fencing uh I I think the idea of adding fencing is great I also I'm also a believer in gradualism um if it were me I'd probably start any new sport like this with a partial budget um because we're doing we're doing the full budget right 24,000 is what's in the motion that you made in right 24,000 which is a full budget for fencing or Jeff sorry correct it okay it doesn't account for $5,000 in revenue from Student Activity but okay roughly okay but yeah the cost of the program is 24,000 yeah I so I mean that's something I love the idea of the program and I said it a couple months ago but I also believe in doing things a little bit slowly and getting something up and running but I don't want to make any motions to slow anything down tonight um I with the exception of the with the exception of the people's Services I um would support your motion Adam at the same time I don't I just want to be upfront about it I don't expect that this motion is going to pass and I also appreciate the motion that you put together an and I expect to also be supporting that tonight um I think there's when we're talking about a $90 million budget I think there's Flex ability and where it could actually land and still be a good and appropriate budget so I don't know if you would you would you be amendable to a friendly amendment to remove that 77,000 sure we what we would have to do is take a vote on that motion and make a new Amendment all right I said I didn't want to do that so I'm gonna skip that I will just vote in favor of I'll vote in favor of your motion and I'm fully expecting it won't pass and then I'm going to vote vote for the other budget when we get to it so I have a question sure so you want to make the amendment to Adam's motion or the original motion I don't want to get involved in that it's okay no don't be scared through it so you're retracting no I don't want to do it I don't want to do it I will support your motion as is um I do not expect it to pass and that's part of me supporting it so I'm done speaking about that I don't expect to I don't expect to speak again on the next motion so I'm ready to take a vote on it um if nobody else wants to speak I don't know if anybody else wants to speak on Sor Dr harrian um doc I I'm hoping Dr Solen can talk about the eight retirees that is also in um Adams Amendment sure and and I you know appreciate that uh being put on the table Adam is one of those folks that I was referencing is not really a rookie in this and knows that yeah I mean on average we see eight retirements over the course of a a year on average um right now we don't have and I think we have one or two people that have said you know looking around uh for interest we did have a teacher retire mid year this year um but I think what's changed unfortunately in education the landscape has changed dramatically in the sense that we can't hire first year teachers coming out of college today the way that we could five 10 years ago um unfortunately there's a real issue where we just don't have enough students graduating from University level uh with certifications to teach potentially you know we've had good fortune because our team jumped on it really early last year with an elementary certification we might be able to get that we're we are um adding a position there due to enrollment but um you know uh science teacher retires the likelihood of hiring a firste CH science teacher where you're going to make up that fiscal difference between a top step and a first year step is really low unfortunately these days so the savings that used to be realized through that practice is no longer available in the same way that it was I don't you know if we did have eight retirements this year I would think that we would you know potentially save money but I don't think it would be anywhere in the magnitude of what we had done in the past um and I you know it's um 30 grand would be exciting per like if that could ever happen but I don't think that that that's uh likely unfortunately under the current circumstances Dr going forward what do you think is a good assumption for that I don't want to um split hairs too thin but it depends on the position I would probably shave it down to like 15,000 a retirement um would be an estimate that I would have today thank you sure any other comments from board members so we're making a motion table there is a motion on the table an amended motion on the table um to reduce the superintendent's proposed budget to 4,518 th000 and based on the itemized description from Mr gripple yeah the the new proposed budget is 89 million 511511 Y correct Adam that right yes at a 5.32 increase yes yes and I believe we need to vote on it so all in favor of the motion that is currently on the table Mr White Mr gripple two yay all those oppose to the motion Mr to five n the motion does not pass so we go back to the original motion that was presented by Dr herrian earlier and Dr her can you just read that for the public that just just us please yes the motion was from the finance committee um to the full board is a proposed budget for fiscal year 20242 of 9, 67,69 an increase of 5,741 180 over the current budget is there a second Mrs Cullen and second we are to vote on the motion that is on the table all those in favor of the motion that has been read and second it point of order Mr perini I apologize comments go ahead sir you don't want to say anything Mr White sure it's okay I know you I thought you reserved it for this hour here thank you I'll be quick so uh I first of all before I see my comments uh on behalf of Dr s and your team all the administrators teachers that work in this budget which started before this month I know I I had an idea what the number was back in probably early November when someone was going after someone was going through it a little higher than 6% and um these are always tough so I know a lot of thought went into this and a lot of time thank you um to our public tonight that spoke you did CH this job it's never easy speaking in public and for 15 years I'm still struggling but it's fun you get used to it um so thank you your comments and so uh I appreciate all the hard work and and certainly I always appreciate uh if you serve with me on this board um as you just saw Mr grippo um we always take a look at every line item we don't think things for granted we know Dr s's team is not hiding anything uh we know there's no fluff but you know we have a line share of the budget of the town this is going to be over 90 million which I think since I'm under the board is almost almost double to when I got on there but that's money well spent um and that's evident by Student Success and their growth no questions there this is going to sound really odd coming for me this year but um I don't support this budget because of the reduction I think um I think when we focus on arbitrary number to keep it below certain percentage this is my my experience on the board um it's the wrong approach and yes I know that our town um because I get some tax bills too you know I saw my property value increase last month I'm wonder what's going to happen with the mill rate but I know we we work through that and I know times can be rough for some folks but you know we're talking we're not talking a large percentage here you know 0.3 04 from the original point it's it's not a big number um I do not want to remove the German teacher from the Middle School 22% of the students is still a large population of students you know and years ago as a board we made a commitment to expand World languages as much as we can we going to be backtracking on that uh absolutely I support the stem um Dr s knows that after this budget presentation I called him immediately and said hey you should have put that in your proposal and like most of us he was concerned about the Optics of the increase and being responsible to town and folks may look at his budget and say gez $90 million that's huge how you guys being responsible what you don't see is uh we've been nickel and Diamond this budget for decades for years um especially with covid we had a back track on adding more courses offerings programs to get through a pandemic and we did we focus on the students mental need health needs uh to get them through it um so I I I appreciate the stem uh I want to see that in there I would have proposed that we keep out the son's original budget and add the step stem cost in there because it's not a large increase compared to what was presented um but looking at these numbers um you know we we're nickel and diming to get a program in when we should just be getting it in um we've been through this every year uh the budget is tight and the downside to this too is we've already telegraphed where if there were any painful Cuts we made we already identifying this budget process is not over the town manager has to take the budget Town Council has to look at the budget um I'm not going to kid ourselves we're probably not going to get $90 million we never get 100% of our budget increase and I'm hopeful the New Town Council um like the ones prior put a huge emph on education they'll do the right thing um but you know I uh I value every student the German program certainly gave an opportunity for my daughter when she was the middle school to expand her knowledge base it helped tenfold in the high school um I just think we're shooting for a number uh that really is does make much sense at the end of the day percent increase the other thing too I see here is building maintenance repair Building Maintenance to repair of buildings is decreasing and if my uh my colleague Faith ham was still here uh who was proba she would probably if she's not jumping them down now at home probably is because we've pretty much Frozen building maintenance for the longest time we're no further ahead on phase two of a strategic plan for our schools that's been kind of stagnant the last year year and a half so we're going to be spending more money on maintenance uh to keep our facilities running in top shap as we can and uh well I hate to say this you know I I at first I thought there was a stage thing when I walked into the budget meeting I think was last Tuesday or or week prior um there was a little mouse running around under the front of the stage actually was kind of tacking about the S um so and by means and I and I don't mean to be crash with that but I found that kind of comic it's a field mouse it's not a INF station but um you know it just kind of reminded me you know we we keep our buildings clean obviously but um so I uh I I'm the odd one out where I did want to see Dr st's budget as is plus the stem I'm not going to make that motion uh Oly there's no support for that and and by no means I know my colleagues meanwhile uh and I I certainly uh will support whatever we can get back but uh I'm not about limiting programs especially programs that are working I want to expand them and after years not really doing much of that I think it's time to change that tight so uh I appreciate my colleagues hard work and and I'm sorry that uh and I don't think the parents here that talked about um the math to technology uh analogy he made but for those of you that weren't aware you know I I only found out today at 2:07 PM that you know we got this list of cuts only what happens is that when there are reductions being discussed we try to make that publicly available so that public has the time to talk about it and come to the next meeting and bring more concerns my guess is probably more people out there that like to chime in on this um and we did have another week and a half to make a decision but I understand time is of the essence so by no means no one's rushing you or trying to run things by you I'm glad you did find out um but I suspect there be more out tomorrow and uh that being said uh for those that you know do have concerns not just with this budget uh but as this goes to the town manager and Town Council please uh both bodies will tell you we never hear from enough people during this process I'm certain we'll love the feedback even if it's after the fact but this will go on to the town manager next and to the Town Council there'll be more opportunities there for folks to voice their opinion so please stay involved um but I appreciate one's hard work and I appreciate all the time the board spent a lot of time last week on this so uh but unfortunately I cannot support this it's just not enough thank you Mr perini any other board members Dr har again and then Mr White are you raising your hand okay yeah I wanted to um make a comment um with something that Mr white brought up with the um the fencing going to a Varsity Sport and doing it just incrementally which doesn't make full sense to me but um more importantly I I I guess I want to challenge all of us to think of the fencing program as something more than just a Varsity Sport to me after listening to two hours of students and former students talk about how it makes them feel connected to the school how they want to they want to be like other schools and they want to have the experience of competing and and earning accolades for chesher high school um many of those students talked about how fencing is a sport that falls in a little bit different category and they feel as students who don't always feel like the most most athletic person at their high school but they were welcomed into this fencing program and they flourished in a program that where they had other people and adults and other students in a very supportive environment I think we need to look at some of these these things as really enhancing our our commitment to soci social emotional learning and connecting to our schools and um all the mental health benefits that we get from a program that has proven itself to be so supportive and and um I see it as a real opportunity to add this at a very low cost to our budget and I see it every bit as important in um as some of the professional development that we have that we do for our teachers in getting our teachers to support our students with the social emotional learning so um I think we can think outside of the box on some of these programs and and see what they're doing besides just being a Varsity Sport um I really heard the benefits When I listened to those uh students and adults who are involved with that program so um I am in support of this budget um I also want to thank Dr suen for all his work in putting this budget together I know it's a big process every year and it comes first from the schools there's just a long process but I also want to reiterate this idea that this is as Mr perini said this is not uh the end of the process because the school budget is part of the Town budget and um it goes through more review it has to fit into the town of cheshire's budget and um there are many there are things that will come to light over the months that it's over on the town side that we just simply don't know about now in January and one of those is the retirement the retirements that might come out of this um so I'm in support of this budget and um I just want to thank everybody who's been involved in this whole process thank you Mr White I promise not say anything I'm GNA be only on one topic although lots of thoughts it's okay right to read that would have a budgetary impact and that's why I'm bringing it up now I grow increasingly concerned that Hartford is not going to allow waivers for a waiver for chesher or for other towns I don't understand that and I again encourage parents particularly if you have kids kids who are heading into the K through three grades to be aware of what's going on for me personally I I wouldn't I would be totally open to a protest literally going to hardford with picket signs and stuff like that if we keep going further I may actually support Adam's proposal to for a lawsuit I just this is this is absolutely infuriating to me it's personal for me my son's in second grade he'll be in third next year um I think he's doing well I think his teacher is great the other parents I talk to things are going well for them um that obviously is not comprehensive review of all of our kids but all the evidence that the superintendent has presented says to me we should keep doing what we're doing we shouldn't go spend $650,000 on a new program and the single biggest concern I have is that when we change from from the status quo being great the likelihood is things get worse things could get better I totally acknowledge that but it seems to me the likelihood is that get worse that's the problem that I have it just makes no sense and I just had to mention this right to read thing it's infuriating thank you Mr AI quick question if if we don't when the appeals where does the $650,000 come from so if you know the waiver gets denied we do have time to implement that for next the end of next year okay and um you know I think we'll have a pretty good sense in the coming weeks uh certainly by the end of the legislative session where that decision will fall um is you know we navigate our budget through this year we're always very cautious about any sort of discretionary spending meaning money that is uh was identified for supplies or other things or let's say knock on wood we have a great winter and uh the snow removal budget isn't you know it's coming in way under budget we're good there we start to really get a better idea where the money is toward the end of the spring and if it looked like there was something that you know we were going to have to make a significant purchase on we would be really strategic about trying to put money aside as we would have to identify what the actual cost is and this is an estimated cost um it doesn't necessarily take into account professional development other thing we would really have to get a targeted number by the end of the spring and uh hopefully pull some money from this year if necessary uh pull money from next year Andor potentially you know by April uh when we're having this conversation with the Town Council that you know here's our operating budget here's where SD you know came down on this issue this is the real implications for communities I know that chesher is not alone you know I think you're aware 75 communities had their waiver either fully or partially rejected so a lot of people are going through this right now good question guys um and just a follow up with theing and in boys volleyball I know boys volle boys volleyball has been in existence for some time very successful that a Title Nine issue yeah that's you know the boys volleyball yeah has been called a club they've been funded otherwise for a long time they all the transportation's paid for uh coaching stipend are there okay it's um so on all intense purposes of our sport it's just still just call the club yeah and I'm not really sure I'll talk to the ad about you know where that is or what has to change there but it's it's like I said all the transportation's been paid for uh supplies are split with the girls team that there is a supply line there um so okay thank you any other board members Mr GLE thank you um yeah I just wanted to say that I I won't be supporting uh this motion either um you know part of the reason why I go through and U make these motions with excruciating detail is to at least prove to myself that sometimes you can expand programs and also find other ways to pay for them and not just uh tax for it um so I I I think I've proven tonight that there are other ways uh to uh pay for programs that we want um even with um going with more the more conservative retirement figure that Dr Solen provided uh even by uh preserving uh some of the uh positions that we have uh uh currently have up for uh reduction um you know we could still um have a a a a decrease in the increase of nearly $400,000 for a 5 half% increase something at least a little less little more tolerable but um so for for those reasons I won't be uh supporting The $64,000 reduction uh in the uh proposed budget this evening other thoughts so I I do have a comment but I do have a couple questions for Dr Solen if you can just kind of reiterate um it was it was really difficult when you gave us 6.05 knowing that you know you were trying to maintain Services as well as advanced programming for our students but it does come down to um looking at our comparable districts uh what they're expending as well as um ensuring and I have a difficult time with touching any special education line due to the fact that it might cost us more money um for compensatory um services so you know I appreciate I appreciate M gripple kind of digging in and looking at all the line items and so forth um I do maybe for next year um would like to see those um line items presented to us in advance of as well too um and maybe it does take a little longer for this process but that being said if you can Dr Solen I know Mr gripple said there's the potential eight retirements what's the deadline for staff to put in their paperwork if you will so I think the contractually it says May 1 but you know I've never been in a situation where a teacher said to me on May 2nd or after that I'm you know looking to retire where I'm going to say well we're going to have to hold you you know that it really doesn't work so um you know basically teachers it's a difficult decision uh particularly in Connecticut where you're you know regular retirement is 37 and a half years uh to walk away and so you know as much as there is a contractual timeline it's hard to enforce yeah and based on what what we did request Mr masana give us um an kind of an idea of our staff this seniority list my understanding is you have one person at 42 years and the rest are at 35 so you know if somebody's worked 42 years I mean you would have thought maybe they would have retired five years ago but there's still passion there and there's still other reasons I mean they who know they may work 55 years and I'm not here to tell them you obviously none of us are are interested in telling them you have to retire tomorrow or you know three years from now or whatever so it's uh in an exact science um the other thought is uh the proposal I mean initially we wanted an extra we want an extra math coach to support the high school so the proposal includes uh middle and high school math intervention uh coach got it and that would help to reinforce I like Mr perini you know definitely 100% support the advancement of stem and stem education um so I I really loved that you put that in there um the other piece was the back to the fencing I know policy is right now considering moving something forward that would formalize how a club would um be considered for varc in the future years I mean I would hope that the volleyball team would go through this process once we do move the policy forward so that it legitimizes the steps that are necessary to do so yeah they've more or less been a sport though I mean that I don't know you know it's obviously something we could discuss but you know that them and um girls golf are in the same position where they basic they've been a sport for years and years complete with Transportation the whole nine yards so not really sure where the club designation comes from they they do participate in inter Scholastic tournaments they have a full inter Scholastic schedule they you know like I said are are funded um in the same way a team is they pay dues like the the whole nine yards I it's uh I I will provide more information at a future meeting thank you so I I do support this at at 5.97 um just because and the the the seasoned board members in the room know that this process doesn't stop right here and we do um wish that the public would be involved as we move this forward um because again we're working off of a lot of unknowns um one being the retirement and so forth so I definitely 100% support this we we have a a good problem to have if you will because our enrollment increases beyond the NASDAQ projections um we are one of a handful of districts that are growing um and therefore it's a challenge for us yes but um I'd like to thank the administration superintendent um for doing the the the work from day one to to move this to us and basically challenging us to kind of walk these lines here um so thank you for maintaining the services but also trying to advance our programming for our kids um and with that being said uh I will take we are voting on the motion that's before us so all in favor of the motion that was just read by Dr herrian please raise your hand one two three five y those oppose two Nays the motion passed to move the budget forward to the town process now right Dr awesome thank you uh I will take a motion to adjourn Mr White Mr AI second we are now adjourned at 8:44
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2024-01-31 Naugatuck Valley Planning Region, CT YouTube / CPS Video transcript source: youtube Board of Education Budget 1-30-24 · passage 1
lski please roll call here thank you please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance Al to the flag United States of America and to the for stands Nation indivisible and justice for all all right so today tonight this evening we're going to um the board finance committee will review the superintendent's recommended budget um if there is anybody in the public thank you for coming that would like to make any comments definitely go to the microphone or that microphone you switched it on me no I'll give a little longer wait time to you know seeing nobody at the mic I am going to pass the gavel to Dr herrian chair of finance committee great thank you welcome everybody tonight um we're hoping to have a good discussion uh we had two finance committee meetings um last week on Tuesday and Thursday evenings we got really indepth presentation masana on all of all of the items that go into and and what percentage they are without further Ado which is myself and Mr gri Mr eki are going to do is um we have talked about the superintendent's budget we wanted to um move some items like the pre-engineering and environmental science proposal forward into this budget and um as well as keeping the fencing as a Varsity Sport into into the budget but we also um wanted to consider the financial climate and we asked Dr Solen to um give us some numbers that maybe could bring down that the overall budget uh proposal to under a 6% increase which he has done and I'm going to um hand the mic over to Dr Solen to explain the changes that are being made from the previous um superintendent's proposal thank you Dr heran um you know as you mentioned uh there was you know in numerous conversations individually with folks uh a lot of um interest in seeing what we could do and what the implications would be to include pre-engineering and environmental science uh as well as fencing which um um the fencing was initially in included in the superintendent's recommended budget the uh two positions for pre-engineering and environmental science at the Elementary grades were not in addition to um a little more than about $200,000 worth of supplies were not included there um and you know competing that with that is the desire to uh see if we could get the budget under 6% obviously you know you guys have sat through six hours of myself Mr massana Miss Carrie providing an overview of the the budget and you know I think people are familiar with our history we're not um we don't really we don't believe in in pushing the numbers high so that we can cut them we we give you an honest assessment of where we think um the district needs to be in order to you know maintain our success and so pushing that and adding competing things we just really have to look at one hopefully any Evolutions that we see in financial circumstances so uh you know many of our members have been on the board for uh at least two years of not much longer and they know that between now and April some things could change with respect to our medical benefits plans or other quotes that we don't have yet in January and we try and budget on but uh as it sits today in order to incorporate those positions and um some of the uh supplies that would be necessary to actually facilitate a pre-engineering and environmental science uh program you know we have to make reductions in other places I think the most difficult um decision when you know our team went through and reduced many uh positions because we we always historically when when push comes to shove have tried to reduce mine items that don't impact classrooms on unfortunately you know as we sit here today again knowing things could change by April but we have to settle a budget now um have not been able to successfully stay away from classroom impact and so uh we evaluated where we thought um we could go with that and uh unfortunately settled on German at the middle school level predominantly uh there's a position there that teaches uh middle school and some high school instruction um I want to be clear that this is not a decision decision that we take lightly nor is it uh any sort of reflection on our German program I I would um particularly point out fraas who's in the the audience um she's a legend uh and I don't just say that based on Word of Mouth uh having been at chesher high school for four years and seeing her teach and what she does and seeing the way our kids respond um I I I know that um this that we want to retain German as a language to be clear this reduction still does that um over the last four years unfortunately you know with four languages being offered at DOD Middle School Latin uh French Spanish and German German has only had on average 22% of students selecting that is one of their top two choices uh the next closest is Latin at 35 5% which is significantly higher um and so when I look at the number of students that it would be impacted um you know and I have to make tough decisions like that would be the recommendation uh the obvious question is what happens with students who took German in seventh grade um we would uh ask FASSA to teach um at split between DOD and CHS next next year like we do with um a few other World Language positions and um to ensure that our students get the second half of German is eighth graders the second half of German one and continue to matriculate up moving forward though students who leave DOD have the option of selecting German the same way they have the option of selecting any other language when they make the transition uh a perfect example is Italian like I said some of you have been on the board a long time you know that we instituted Italian part-time many years ago and that program has grown to full-time there is strong enrollment there I would anticipate uh there continue to be strong enrollment at chesher high school in German as well um and would not certainly not uh recommend reducing that the other variable here is you know we we currently only have 600 students or so at the middle school you know based on the enrollment projections that will change so it wouldn't shock me that years down the road as our enrollment returns back to uh back when Kristen worked here and it was about 900 students or when I worked here um we would have to be adding language at that time and you know German would be a a first place to look would be my my recommendation so again in order to meet the uh requests my recommendations are as follows going through the lines in the uh budget book line 113 as teachers that line would increase by 48,6 189 which would reflect the addition of the two Elementary uh positions and the reduction of the German position I just spoke to uh homebound instruction uh and evaluating that with Robin uh looks like we could um reduce that by 10,000 um the tuition outplacement again and uh reviewing that with Robin and also uh knowing that the state next year is looking to phase in uh and I hate to count any chickens totally but we're only accounting for about 25,000 of this phase in from the state to pay uh some of the two ition of our students who attend uh vag magnet schools um Etc um line 611 would be instructional Supply that would increase by $120,000 to provide resources for pre-engineering and environmental science uh line 641 textbook software would uh decrease by 15,000 line 642 Library periodicals would decrease by 5,000 um line 644 library media supplies would Rec decrease by 1,710 line 730 replacement equipment would uh drop by 6250 line 731 new equipment would drop by 6,250 610 office supplies would drop by $423 uh Capital Equipment line 732 would decrease by $5,000 line 420 maintenance and repair of equipment would drop by $55,000 and the maintenance and building repair account line 430 would have to decrease by F $50,000 so in all in total these modifications to the budget which again would include VAR City fencing and the pre-engineering Environ Al science programs at the elementary schools would bring the proposed budget for 2425 to 90 milon 67,69 or a 5.97% increase over the current Year's budget thank you Dr Soul uh with that I'm going to ask for a motion um to take this proposal to the full board and um after getting a motion and a second we will put it up for discussion we'll have some discussion amongst the uh finance committee Members First and then it will go to the full board and then if anyone else wants to add something to the dis discussion or questions um that's the order that will go in so can I call for a motion make a motion that the finance committee submit to the full Board of Education the proposed budget for fiscal year 2425 of 9,676 an increase of 5,741 180 over the current budget do I have a second thank you Mr grippo um and now we're open for discussion Mr grippo um just a a point of clarification um so I don't exactly recall uh I do have an alternate uh motion but um I can also bring It Forward up front of a full board is that correct yes okay thank you I have a question for the finance committee yeah so were these details discussed last Thursday night no so where did the 6% thing come from that directed Dr Solen to find items so chair and vice chair were talking about it and we um came to some decisions that we wanted to keep this environmental um pre-engineering and environmental science program and um that we wanted to try to bring the budget under some constraints those discuss Thursday night no that since between Thursday night and tonight okay thank you Mark did you have any questions or comments about this proposal going from Finance to the full board I think it's uh I think it's a good balance between uh the needs of the school schs and being physically responsible for the town um I I support the uh the addition of the the science and the the engineering in the elementary schools as well as adding a new another sport co-ed sport uh that involves 40 student athletes which I think will be beneficial to uh our student body thank you um I also wanted to reiterate from Dr Sol's comments on um the German program as part of the world languages at the middle school as a language teacher myself at the college level um I'm loathed to um cut some programs out of our education because I see the Great benefit that such programs bring to um to our students and their development as people um so I had a I had a good conversation with Dr Solen on this matter and um you know hard decisions do have to be made sometime and really when we look at the number of students that we have at the middle school level and what the enrollment is doing um that's where decisions are made they're not made as Dr Solen said they're not made lightly so I I did want to throw that out there anything else any other comments from the board before we send this to the full board and then there'll be uh opportunities for discussion there okay seeing none we have a motion on the table that the finance committee submit to the full Board of Education the proposed budget for fiscal year 2024 2025 of 9, 67,69 an increase of 5,741 180 over the current budget um all in favor motion passes and we'll go to the full board that concludes uh the finance committee so I will you want me to ask to adjourn so I'll ask for a motion to adjourn thank you Mr grippo second thank you all in favor thanks next meeting starts at 730 7:30 yeah great we have nine minutes for
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2024-01-31 Western Connecticut Planning Region, CT YouTube / hatters tv transcript source: youtube 1/30/24 Policy Committee Meeting · passage 1
policy committee meeting to order at 6 o' we're going to say 6 o' and um we're going to go right down the agenda and the first thing the uh committee has to do is Select this chairperson so are there in a nomination for uh the chairperson of this committee I would like to nominate Kate is it chair and I second it okay all that favor we don't have no oppose so the so car Kate you're the uh chairperson so you can take over now thank you so much and thanks everybody for for your confidence I appreciate it um so uh we work normally with uh Kim Thompson and Kelly Tres and I just want to thank them for joining us again this evening um I did speak with Dr casmiro earlier this evening she said she's going to jump on but she was um GNA probably be a few minutes late so she may pop on at some point um but um we've been slowly working through this we had a little Interruption but I'll I'll let uh Kim and Kelly get into more detail on that with agenda item number two which is an update on our work status great thank you um so for those of you particularly who are new to the group um we have quite a quite a whole lot of many um policies and they're really like our law book so the Rules of Engagement for operation of the district and they broken down um by series and so there is a 2,000 series 3,000 series 4,000 series and each one of those thousands of series are dedicated to a certain area of operation of the district so it might be Personnel it might be students and all of those policies from time in Memorial have been amended and changed and kept in a three- ring binder that rested in the Board of Ed room um several years ago we undertook an audit of the policies with cab and that involved sending all of our policies to cab and cab went through them all and kind of made a matrix for us of here's what is missing here's what's mandatory that you need to get in here's what you might want to think about in each one of those Series so as you might imagine it's a pretty voluminous report and it tracks recommended policies and um as I said things that are missing so um what cab then does is C is housing all of our policies on their platform on their website so if you go into the D Public Schools website and you're looking for a particular policy on hiring for example you might find you you will go to the district website that says policies you'll click on it and it'll take you right into the Cabe hosted website which houses the danre public schools policies you'll find the one on hiring and you'll read the policy that way it also houses your um Board of Education bylaws and um a couple other things like that are all housed in this one platform um so what we're doing now is we were trying to think of kind of the most organized way to go through and make sure that in each one of these series that we had what we needed that we pass what we needed if it was missing and that anything that was obsolete or that um just didn't really apply anymore was taken out would be taken out and that we considered any policies that might be a good idea to think about not necessarily ones you have to have but ones that the policy committee might want to think about as we March through these series um you might remember this past Wednesday there were a bunch of policies on the board of ed agenda for a first read the board reads every policy twice so two meetings and then votes to approve modify send it back to the committee whatever it is they're going to do with it so on the first um on the on the board meeting this past Wednesday there were a series of policies that you all voted for a first readon as a group and they involved um kind of operational things in that um I think it was the 2000 Series so it was things like um who sign who's the signatories what happens if a superintendent's incapacitated like things that were very routine that all went in for a first read so they've all been approved for first read They're going to come on your next board agenda for a second read and a vote and depending on what you decide as a larger group at that board meeting they might let's say they're approved we then work with C to make sure that the policies get amended on the hosted website and then we move on to the next one so um we've done the 2000s um we paused on the 300s which had a lot to do with Finance um and we moved into the 4000s which is the next kind of really big chunk it's pretty dense it's going to take a few meetings I think to get through um and so we'll look we'll walk you through and the the next agenda will'll have the each ones of the ones that um you might want to consider will be on the agenda we have been through and Kelly keep me honest here but we have been through you all have been through over the last year or so passing everything that was mandatory so we are up to speed on everything mandatory and now we're kind of going through what's OBS what don't we need anymore um what might we want to consider as a new policy so on items three and four of tonight's agenda um we're kind of we're going to do two things um and to kind of take them out of order in item four the biggest um the I'm so to interrupt I just want to just check in we've got two two committee members here who haven't been with us uh before so I just want to just pause for a second and see if there are any questions about what Kim explained great yes thank you um I'm sorry that I came on a little bit late um so I do have a a uh a couple of questions so I do have a copy of the uh policies for the first read that were in the board package um and and so when you talk about first read are we supposed to um look those over tonight or they were already looked over in the previous policy meeting yes they were looked over in several of the previous polic meetings this policy committee voted to move them on to the board for consideration so they're on the board the full board agenda for a full board vote so a second reading has already happened no no so the the full board does two readings this committee looks at the policies tweaks makes a recommendation and sends it to the full board whatever goes to the full Board needs two reads so let's say we have a policy that says you shall always wear a red shirt on Mondays so this committee vets that that policy and we say gee cab has recommended that you know you have this important policy that everybody wears a red shirt on Mondays everybody on this Committee in the past had a conversation about it decided yes we think that's a great policy let's send it to the full board for passage it then goes to the full board and that policy Thou shalt wear red shirts on Mondays has to go through two reads two consecutive meetings at the board before it can be voted on by the full board and then goes into the Cade platform okay got it oh go ahead add to Wanita nothing would go to the full board uh regarding policies without being vetted through this committee first okay so I guess um what we had in our package at our last meeting was that considered the first time that it was brought before the board that's a first read the will be brought before the board again is this the meeting in which the first read is discussed or it was already discussed it was already already it was part of that group motion on Wednesday presented to the board already uh for a first read which was our last meeting yes and now is it this committee that says it's ready to go or it automatically goes to the board for a second reading it automatically goes to the board for the second reading and at at your next board meeting you can talk about them some more before you know if you want to talk about any one of them in particular or as a group and then you will vote Yes we approve this as a second read we this is going to be our policy change or no you know what we don't like it let's send it back to the policy committee to talk some more whatever action the full board takes at their next regular meeting okay got it second question if as a board member um there is a policy that either has already come forth before the board um prior to my being on the board or if there is a policy that I would like to bring before this committee can I do that so I think that's probably a point of order for your chair you haven't missed much um because many of our prior meetings were about organizing and figuring out how in the world we were going to wrestle this to the ground so you've really only missed the 2000 series we haven't done anything in the finance Series right Kelly is that where we've been so we started in our October meeting we did the zero series our November meeting was the 2000 series um last year we did all the work um and the prior year actually on all the mandated policies which were a variety of different series um so now what the um the discussions in the fall in our policy meeting was that we were going to cons continue chronologically um throughout the uh to finish out the audit to make sure we do a thorough and comprehensive review of all of our policies by series um we had discussed that the next we would skip over to the 3,000 for the time being move on to the four um and then go chronologically from there certainly when need of something comes up that is or to anyone on the committee that is pressing um so for example on tonight's agenda you'll actually see um kind of a pause we wanted to bring um a policy about artificial intelligence forward just for consideration no action um we also have talked several times in Prior committee meetings on the title 9 policy and again where're if there's something pressing that needs to come forward um and what I would say is if there is a policy that you feel needs immediate attention that you bring that to the attention of the committee chair um so that would go with go to miss caneta and um Kim and I work directly with her to set up the policy meeting agenda for each one of these meetings okay it strikes me what might make some sense is we might share with um oneita the agenda from the November 15th meeting because that was one of the first ones where you really laid out the grid so it says you know what you can expect we're going to talk about in that meeting and it shows the policy number and any notes and what we're going to do to revise them so we you'll have an agenda like that for your next policy subcommittee meeting but that might be a good one to look at so for Al and Wanita I will share with you the October and November agendas following this meeting just so you have them for reference um so you'll see the format and and kind of how we've laid things out and certainly if you'd like to have a conversation with kimai here or offline um you know about kind of the structure and the way we've moved through in the past um you know we welcome that okay um I my question though and I I'm sorry I do have the agenda for the November that was in our packet at meeting so I do have that um was the um updated codification done that was a question that I had um give me that went to First that was a first read on our our most recent board okay okay so the next meeting it would go for uh final approval okay and so um the this is my last question BR okay and so um and I can also pass it by Kate I guess as far as protocol for the committee whether I think that it is urgent an emergency of great importance or not if I have a question or a concern about an existing policy am I able to bring that forward to the committee that should come through me okay got it thank you okay you got it and I will take that to to Kelly and Kim for a conversation just to be fully transparent that's how that process will work okay uh Terry go ahead uh can I kindly request when people are uh speaking to we could see you I think uh the way we operate is that we understand if everybody can be on camera that's great and if we can't be on camera then we're adults so we're going to handle it that way all right but thank you I appreciate that all right uh Kim Kelly back to you guys okay so today um because we wanted to make sure we had time to flesh out kind of orientation if you will um for these policies um the two that you see in item number three and four I just want to deal with them together for a second and then Kelly maybe you can talk about the first one I'll talk about the second one but they're both the the artificial intelligence one is brand new um it was one that has has started to percolate around through CES some other organizations so um we thought it was a good idea to get it in front of you so that you can take it home you know think about it some more talk a little bit about what the ramifications of it might be and we can kind of have a conversation about that the second one which is the draft Title 9 um our policy under Title 9 needs to be updated um and so it's dense and what you have if you click on the link are it's it's if this makes sense it's two of the same policy one that applies to personnel and one that applies to students so they're going to go in two different areas of the book The first four pages of the policy are the meat of it it's it's you know an anti-discrimination policy they're very clear they came from shipment and Goodwin there're their stock policies the remaining of the packet those all the remaining documents after are the regulations that help us to implement the policy so um because they're dense we wanted you to get a look at them today um and then at your next meeting um at least that one I think will be kind right in the Forefront of the 4000s because it's important that we get that one tuned up um I will tell you the difference between the policies and the regulations you will be asked to vote on the policy the regulations can be crafted by the superintendent or designes to support the regulations so it would go something like this we have a policy that says anti-discrimination and you need to take a complaint put it on this form take it to this person all the nuts and bolts of it are the regulations that are going to change all the time over time and so those are things that we can change in the discretion of the superintendent and the administration but the BET Rock bet of the policy is the one that you're going to be asked to consider so we can talk about those items three and four today in that context and then um hopefully at the next meeting we'll be ready to talk about them in a more formal way so that was the method Behind The Madness of the agenda so C you want to talk about the AI one I just want to thank Terry for bringing the AI uh uh policy forward so that we're having this conversation so thank you Terry sorry no you're fine bear with me for a second because I'm having difficulty getting it to to pull up while I'm speaking so give me one are we sure that it's actually Terry on the screen and not AI you know um so I will pull it up in just a moment hi Dr casiro thank you for joining us um just we were uh we selected a committee chairperson um Kate canata will continue in chair capacity um we went over kind of our work historically and now we were moving into the artificial intelligence policy so right thank you the artificial intelligence policy and I'll pull it up in just a moment but to piggy back on what Kim had shared um is really a policy that um we know AI is out there for any of you that have you know used whether it's GPS on your phone speech to text things like that um it is in the works um both with our adults and with our student population currently um I kind of compared it just in convers ation to when cell phones became you know vast and wide with our student population at first we had tried to police and helicopter and ban and do all of those things then realized embrace it as a tool and put strict rules and regulations around it um and so the purpose behind an artificial intelligence policy is that we know it's here um we know that it is something um that is going to be part of our world um both in our students and as well as our teachers um and so what are what are some ways in which we can educate uh the community on what artificial intellig is um what are some of the ways we can educate them on the benefits because I think there is a um there is a um you know a pot of people that they hear that word and go oh no we could never do that without realizing that there's some things that they're already accessing um that have artificial intelligence um and then how can we help our both our Educators and our students because the 4,000 series really around students on to be smart users and smart consumers of technology so if you're utilizing um artificial intelligence to assist you with an academic task um that you were doing it truly to assist and not to you know supplant your own work and and so forth and so really that's the premise um behind the artificial intelligence policy Teresa do you want to go ahead and add uh yeah um one thing I learned at C because I didn't know there was a difference is the term generative AI um like you said we have it already in GPS and our cell phones and all this stuff but gener of AI um is what the teachers are experiencing a lot in their classroom using students using uh parameters to create their own stories uh through Ai and that's called generative Ai and that really is not mentioned in this policy is it I mean I didn't I didn't see the distinguishing factor between the two it's one of the optional ones yeah it's uh page it's the second page uh instruction Personnel generative AI is there's like a whole section on it okay all right yeah all right I was looking at the first I didn't I didn't realize it scrolled down I'm sorry is that Kelly is are those both because I know C merges them with the regs is that a reg or a yeah see that's so going back to what I'd said before that um The Rock bed of the policy is a good one for you all to talk about and that's these three paragraphs that's the actual policy scrolling down that's the supporting regulations that can be changed which for something like AI is a great thing because that is going to be changing as fast as we could you know keep up with it and so if you had to go back through the policy committee to amend every time you had to change you'd be constantly in the policy committee um but certainly you know your feedback is every bit as appropriate and important to the regulations as it is to the the policy for sure Kelly you're on mute I'm so sorry um so we wanted to put in front of you um primarily the policy uh so that the first page of the three paragraphs um to talk about um whether or not it is something that we want to consider for moving forward um I also think along with this committee we should be considering some recommendations um as far as how we educate our broader School community on this topic um and so both of those will be up for discussion um next week um but anything from page two on are regs to consider um and certainly your feedback on those and um Teresa for example you bring up an excellent point making sure we have some terminology and definitions in there um so those will also be things that we can cons you know we can discuss at the uh next policy meeting are there any oh go ahead Kim I was just gonna say the other question that I I'm not sure we can answer it quite yet but the other question I would have is kind of what are our neighbors doing right because um we have a school district where we have a lot of mobility and it would be nice if kids had the same kind of policy in place where they to move around districts or you you know it would be interesting to know how others have thought about it and I'm not sure there's any answers to that yet because it's so fast moving but um maybe we can see if we can check in with cab or somebody on that before the next meeting I think that's a great idea Cara was there anything additional that you wanted to add about this I know you've been involved in the conversations as well yeah I don't know if it's premature um but certainly you know this is the type of um policy reg that it's probably going to go through it's several iterations um it's quick quickly as this is developing uh new issues emerge and so that will probably need to be clarified I think this is Broad enough um to get us started with this um Gina Jasmine our Tech director and I've have been working very closely on this we attended the IST conference uh last summer which was the AI was the primary focus of the entire conference so we probably attended 20 or 30 sessions of different types and um you know of all kinds um she and I have been um working closely she has also been attending um some of more some of the state conversations on this some of the collaboratives and I'm also working with uh someone from um who someone who is you know has been really experimenting with this as in in terms of curriculum so on the exciting end of this you know a lot of folks that want to block it um because because they feel that kids are plagiarizing it's really about how to you teach kids how to use it to create and that's the generative part um that is so exciting and that that's going to come with a lot of challenges as well as we start to work through but really how do you teach kids to use it and to create and to um how do you design assignments and curriculum that um you know really lends itself to kids leveraging the technology and using it in ways that that we haven't considered yet so there's a lot of exciting opportunities down the line for this as well is any particular part of theems it's going to be more focused on this than others that you know as you're rolling them out so I mean we have obviously we have um you know a computer and cyber security networking so there's a little more computers in there but this is going to affect every pathway one of the questions that we um we we initially had the idea to create an artificial intelligence pathway but this is but the thought is that this is so pervasive it's going to cut across every single um industry one of the questions that we had um our teachers asked when they went out for the industry day and over 60 different Industries um before they left they had to ask the question how is AI transforming your industry and how how do we as Educators have to back in and build skills and tools to help nurture the skills that they're going to need so they can hit the ground running when they graduate um and so you know there a range of responses as you can imagine um and and certainly they're also wrestling it with it as well trying to keep up um and certainly it's uh either accelerating their businesses or um they're going to be accelerated out they'll be beat by their competitors who have learned how to use this um this tool so there's a lot more to come on this Gan and I want to get a group of uh of teachers um I have somebody who's willing to to kind of run we call them experiments um where we try some things out we try a bunch of the different applications that are that currently exist um with with some teachers and we try to apply some things in the classroom and then get some feedback on how the teachers are experiencing how the kids are experiencing so um that's all kind of coming down the line and very exciting things we've selected a couple of really nice text I think to get teachers um you know the ones that we will work with to kind of start to read more and and see this as a as a learning Advantage tool in the classroom rather than a rather than a threat so um looking forward to see where where this is all going there you had a question yes um one example that was used um by one of The Other Board of Ed members uh at the cape conference who was using this stuff already uh he he says we all know the Gettysburg Address he says why don't you have the students write their their guidelines or parameters whatever you want to call the the points to create the Gettysburg address in Reverse you know um so that was I thought very interesting for history lesson uh so it does go across all genres it does well but scary littleit scary yeah are there any other questions or comments about the ai ai policy which we will bring back up um for a recommendation to the full board at the next meeting I think the meat of that one is in the regulations maybe I'm wrong but uh the policy is really just there to serve the purpose of creating space for the regulations to occur and I think something that we just need to be conscious of because this is so new and upcoming and changing and evolving that those regulations will probably need to be changed several times over the course of the next few years thank you for the overview um Kim I will pull up the next policy while you speak to it great thank you um so what you're um now looking at is the tital 9 policy so kind of a a brief overview for you um state and federal law both require non-discrimination statements um but under Title 9 and in some respects title N9 meaning um anything having to do with an educational program and title seven which is in employment discrimination employment they look very similar under two different federal laws this policy um basically is an anti a broad anti-discrimination policy in the workplace that references both Title 9 for receipt of educational funds in an educational program and title 7 in the workplace it lays out um it and it's very prescriptive in the statutes the kinds of um protected classes what how they're how they're classified so you'll see um it tracks the language of the statute so this main policy the policy that you will be looking at in your next meeting really is it's dense it's hard to read um but it requires this affirmative statement that you'll see right where the cursor is Title 9 title 7 and Connecticut Law are the three kind of biggies that we're talking about it then goes through kind of labeling um definitions and Kelly if you can keep scrolling down a little bit more the the definition section um and it talks about what harassment is again the nuts and bolts of the policy this is required you already have a policy that looks a lot like this one this is a tuned up version um so this is the one that you'll be asked to to consider in your next meeting and to recommend to the full board so that we can get it updated in the policy book um what's more I think significant and more time consuming and again we can decide how much of it you want to talk about is if you keep scrolling down to the regulations Kel so in the regulations Section much like with the AI That's where the meat of what happens goes on here it lays out a procedure for conducting an investigation it identifies who the person is you would go to it talks about what kinds of documents there needs to be it talks about burdens of proof um it talks about followup um requirements all of the nuts and bolts the checklist if you will of things that need to be done by the district to protect against a claim of unlawful discrimination under one of these either one of the two federal laws or the state law so it lays out all of those policies we're a very big District so we need to be thinking always about who is charged with doing these investigations um and there's also some pretty rigorous training that goes along with um the people who are responsible for the investigations your district has been trained we were trained last year um by Shipman and Goodwin who came in to talk about um with all administrators on training identifying sexual harassment identifying hostile work environment and really doing an overview of all of the process that needs to happen whenever there's a complaint made so um this is a little bit easier read it's a little more interesting of a read for you as you do kind of your homework for the next meeting but these again are the regulations that are subject to change there's also in these regulations a sample Complaint Form um there's mandatory postings that need to go up around the district again we have all of those pieces we have postings in place we're going to tune them up just update them a little bit more and get them put up across the district what's super interesting for like nerdy people like me that read regulations and and laws about this is that there's lots of change going on in these regulations particularly around Title 9 and around the burden of proof and you may have seen that in the news or heard people talk about it but um as the administrations have changed there different obligations about how you would res olve a complaint um of harassment particularly um who's got the burden of proving yes or no um what happens does that burden shift what does people have to do in response and we're actually waiting for more guidance which should come um from the Department of Labor um and maybe from the Department of Education as well on what that looks like um come March as they start to promulgate some more regulations so we're going to have to keep changing these and keep updating them um but I think for right now this packet of the regulations are really important so I would like you to take a read through them before the next meeting but the four-page policy is pretty standard so you'll see that and it's got a lot of legal e in it but that will be the policy for you to consider any questions so I just want to clarify for those who aren't aware we do uh we only make a motion about um policies at a committee typically um well we can make a recommendation about a regulation from time to time so I do think it's important also to read through the regulations and just understand sort of what those ask because we do sometimes have conversation around the table about the regulations as well Michelle uh just quick question I was trying to print the policy um yesterday is it is it going to be able to be printed or is it only going to be a view only um access on the on these policies was it on the oh um so the ones that are showing on the screen right now should be attached to the agenda as a document that you should um but when they go onto the C website you raised an interesting question I'm not in love with the cab website I got to be honest um I I I'm a little uncomfortable with somebody else hosting our policies you know what if they crash what if we lose them so we are keeping hard copies of everything as well um and we're updating that book but I don't know if you can print off the cab website to be honest when they finally get P you can you can PR off the website yes um you have to click each individual policy now this will not be on the website yet because it has not been voted on um but um on the agenda sometimes you have to download this document in order it downloads to a PDF and then you can print it um but on the cave website when you click on it there is a print icon as well and but you just have you can't do like all 4,000 series at once yeah okay no I'll try again thank you very much welcome Terry did you have a question I saw your hand go up for a second there you're on mute I I didn't have a problem printing these documents I didn't have a problem I think Michelle was referring to the um website yeah where we have our our policies hosted and as Kim mentioned they're hosted by cab so it's their their server which I certainly hope they have a backup for well I thought we were supposed to all get a copy once this is all done I was just gonna say actually it's funny Tera you said that because I Kelly I know we talked about they were going to print three copies or five copies or something like that do you remember it goes back we requested three of them um and we um we have received uh at least two of those three copies I'm not sure about the third Kim um but uh we would have to make copies off of those uh for the remaining members but nothing has changed in there um from last year really it will be based on the new policies that are voted in hopefully at the next board meeting um then you would have updates to your zero series and your 2000 series um and we can certainly ask Cara Pompano to support with if if any of you need hard copies on that to support with getting them to the members of the policy committee well I thought I thought the report said that each member of the board of EG gets a copy according to the report that from Cape but I think I got walked back a little bit in the translation as Kelly and I kind of pressed on that further um we have to Circle we never receiv received the hard copies originally at least to our knowledge then when we asked for them we got like I said that we agreed to three um there was a cost for each individual one um so we thought it was important to get at least a couple to have and then we can replicate them from from our offices thank you you're welcome Michelle I don't know if you have your hand up again for a question or if that's just hanging out let me take that down thank you okay no problem just want to make sure thank you me see and so as I said earlier there it says on the agenda Ser series 4,000 that's Personnel series 5,000 that's students and so the same kinds of policies are applying in both places and they're identical um so you'll see that when you see the both copies thank you for that overview Kim any other questions from committee members oh wait a minute Cher thank you um okay um when you uh Title Nine is there uh for this series 5000 is there anything new in there I mean it's just so detailed can you summarize any if there's anything new there's not they look the same um point of historical fact because I like to talk about this so when I was in law school in 1990 um I actually wrote my law school note about whether or not a student could sue a professor for harassment under Title 9 it was a very new area of the law at the time and that's what you're seeing now is evolving that title 9 is now in both Arenas one leg in both Arenas of employment but also in um the way that students are treated so um the language is the same but it is arguably a little bit more expansive interpretation for students because they're not in an employment relationship they're in a student relationship if that helps is is um does this have anything to do with allowing trans women in women's sports yep so the lawsuit that you all have um with the track students out of denber high school a couple years ago was one that was filed globally under Title 9 and the way that it was in the way that title 9 was used there is that these female students were denied access to an educational opportunity because they had to compete against trans um Runners and that was how Title 9 was used it was about the opportunity under under an educational process that was being denied to students that was the allegation so a little bit different um from like the employment relationship or um a classroom relationship but used in an expansive way to to to address that issue and that's um that matter is still kind of bouncing around um it's it's not been finally resolved yet even though it's been quite a few years um but that litigation is actually still bouncing around out there thank you Michelle Michelle you're on mute sorry one second can you hear me now yes okay are we gonna go through any of these types of examples or or you know like the locker rooms and the bathrooms and all the issues that sometimes come up when you're out speaking with um with our you know our constituents are we going to actually kind of go into this in more depth on the second read and we're just looking at reviewing this now um well as you said it's very dense so I'm just you know I'm sure that there's been a lot of changes yep so my initial take on that Michelle is that those examples are ones of ways in which someone could sue the district under the policy you need to have the policy as a as a matter of law you need to have the policy and anti discrimination policy under Alles and you need to have regulations about how you're going to handle a complaint and how you're going to Define what um again using lots of regulations that are tracking in the federal law how are you're going to Define certain comment or conduct but I don't know that this committee could um you wouldn't promulgate a rule for example or a policy about um I don't think about for example transgender students in Sports um you know part of the way that litigation came up was that cak is the one that promulgates the rule and we decide whether to follow the seak rules or not and whether that and then gave rise to an action so I don't know that we would spend a lot of time talking about various scenarios because I don't think you would promulgate rules around them um but you would have to consider the basic shell um which would give rise to those examples if that makes any sense you know does that does that help it so in in in a sense okay I get that we have the laws like for instance after the after the sport after the event and you're going to go into the locker rooms or the showers like right now I know when I got on the board initially I had asked that question and the answer I think I got was well they're broken right now so it's like we don't really have it addressed so that's the kind of stuff I'm looking to find out how are we addressing these these issues as a district can we discuss that um what is in our policy um you know if it has to do with a maintenance issue and we're not addressing it how are we moving forward especially with the Career Academy like what is our position in the district and as a board because this is the first time we're really as far as I'm concerned since I've been here that we're really having these conversations yep thank you um I hear you yeah and I think that's a valid point but I I think that that may be a better convers about what are the rules that already exist out there from you know state law or um regulations from the chro or from the Department of Labor or from the Department of Education that govern conduct there's lots of rules coming out about you know do you have to have a a um a a unisex bathroom who can access it those rules already exist those are not of your making those are rules that you know you have so the seak example is a good example of that um you know the question question I suppose becomes if you if you as a board or as individuals don't like the seak role you know is the district going to question the rule how does that how does that actually how does the issue get joined it doesn't have a lot to do with your policies because you can't enact a policy that's G to conflict with a law population um but it's a fair question about how are we maneuvering within the structure that these other big organizations are giving us um and I think that's probably a different kind of presentation because don't think it's a creating a policy question okay we can talk about how that fleshed out for you you know what kind of a form we do that in yeah if we could look into something like that I'm really interested in myself as a board member and you know a parent in the district I just I really I'm interested in knowing what what our position is and and how we're moving forward yep and and we get questions like that all the time and you know certainly Kelly and carck can both speak to this as well we'll get questions about someone wants to be referred to by a different name do you change the records in power school do you call them by the different name those are all things that we could ultimately be exposed to litigation under these policies under these broad policies that say you shall not violate Title 9 or you shall not violate title 7 but we're having to maneuver within lots of other rules and regulations that are coming to us from other agencies and we get these questions a lot and a lot of times we sort of go I don't know um and we may call for leg outside legal advice to help us with that too okay all right thank you okay any other questions from committee members all right uh let's move on and talk about our upcoming meeting schedule so typically the policy committee meets uh once a month and the reason that this committee meets so frequently as compared to the other committees is that that we have a lot of work to do and it's important that we bring these policies uh up for review and make recommendations to the board for approval uh consistently because there are so many policies uh that this work really needs to keep moving in order to keep these policies current so um we have in the past Set uh I think it was like the third Wednesday has been policy um I know that um for February I don't think we have a policy committee scheduled um and I guess what I'm wondering is if I reach out to committee members uh perhaps offline uh with some dates for February that we could get one on the books and and begin that process Michelle oh I don't I don't have a question I'm sorry is my hands still up just want to make sure I didn't miss you if you did no let me I'm sorry okay lowered thank you sure if you want to reach out that sounds okay and then I can coordinate with uh Kelly and Kim since they will remain our Liaisons for this committee so um but we do have one on the books for for March which is probably going to be rescheduled and that one St for the third Wednesday so that that is probably going to be rescheduled um actually don't see one on the books for April so I will reach out to committee members and we'll talk about February March to start with let's not get ahead of ourselves and then uh we'll go from there but you should expect to to uh be part of one of these meetings once a month and you know we've talked about this before but I will just bring it up again because we do have two new committee members and um this is a this is a committee that requires you to do some work outside of the actual meeting we have um you know Kim mentioned the two Pol the two title n policies that we need to take a look at um it's best that you read those through thoroughly and come prepared to the meeting with any questions you may have um you can always certainly reach out to me if you have questions in advance that you'd like me to pass on to Kelly and to Kim so that they can be prepared to answer those questions at the meeting um but it's you know it just makes everything run a lot smoother if we all look at the material in advance and then come prepared to have that discussion Teresa um thank you Kay one quick question do to Kim do we have a Dei person we do not have a Dei person um and we should probably this is probably as part of this policy an important thing to talk about um because we do we have Kevin and I had quite a few conversations about building that into not just a strategic plan but also into that I know Teresa you're aware that mandatory increasing um educator diversity plan that we need to submit to the commissioner in March um so we've talked about that as a strategy and a goal is um putting a Dei person in place um I continue think it's really super important because um we could really use that voice at the table as we try to standardize some of our hiring practices um because we're so big all of our hiring of teachers is all decentralized so in 13 elementary school buildings if one someone's hiring and someone else is hiring they don't use a standardized set of materials questions that kind of thing and I thought it would be important to put a committee together to talk about standardizing some of those materials and that having a Dei person on that committee would be a good idea thank you if you wouldn't mind just with the policy agenda I will follow um unless I get feedback differently from the committee but the same format that we used in October and November um which will link the existing policy if there is one and then the new recommended policy um by c um so you'll be able to look um by policy number what is the one we have in place if there is one um and then for some of the you may want to consider these meaning we do not have a policy in place and we may or may not want to um enact one um there are close to I want to say it was 160 or 170 don't quote me on that but kind of like you may want to consider these policies throughout the entire cave audit um and so we were just um you know we definitely want to make sure we have policies in place for things that this committee and our board feels very strongly about um but we also want to make sure we don't um put every last little thing in there that it will be you know become cumbersome uh for people to understand and really adhere to um there are some that are just very um you know we're required to do whether we have a policy or not um and so we just want to have some conversations about that but if anyone has any questions on the format or feedback or wants to see something differently please let me know and until I hear differently I'll just continue to do it in the same format so hopefully make make it easy for people to understand I really appreciated the way that you did that Kelly I did think it made it a lot easier especially if we haven't seen that policy come before the committee before to have that point of comparison is really important Teresa did you have a question yes one question uh regulations they also fall in the book is is there diff there they come after the policies like okay just for clarification I was just gonna say in the book they're usually in two different colors so in the hard copy you know the the policies are in green and the regulations are in purple I think so um paper in in the color of the paper and not every policy has a regulation many do but not everyone the regulations are really um really if we need to spell out things of how to enact them in the district uh based on the policy some of the policies are just very CAU and dry and um there's not explicit regulations needed for them so you will not always find regulations any other questions from committee members about any of the things we talked about this evening all right seeing none I'll ask for a motion to adjourn please so move by Terry and may I have a second I second that thank you Al all those in favor please signify by saying I I I I saw saw an I from there hi thank you Michelle
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at Highland High School we're hosting it this year so if you have some Spare Time head on out there I'm telling you what there's some Fierce competition and uh I'm just extremely proud it's really hard to get up in front of a bunch of people first of all and then be asked to spell several different words that most people in the audience don't have a clue I Googled a lot of stuff when I was watching you guys and I didn't even know some of those words so uh this is a competition that my family was very thankful I never entered as a kid so it would just be embarrassing to the name so we're really really proud of you good luck in your next step um we already can tell that you represent Gilbert Public Schools well so take that to the next level one more time for our folks if you guys would shake hands with the governing board and stay up here we'll take a picture of everybody okay so you sir just head on that way there you go head on down the line congratulations J conratulations [Music] I can have all of you right here stand in the same line just shift down this way keep going right there get shoulder to shoulder and we'll fill in around you smile there's a lot of cameras flashing everybody good conratulations next um we have some high school students who have definitely excelled in what they're doing the Flynn scholar semifinalist there are 80 Flynn scholarship semi-finalists for the class of 2024 pursuing Arizona's most competitive merit-based college scholarship the excelling High School seniors were selected as semifinalist for more than 1,000 applicants and in so doing have already earned a generous scholarship offer from Arizona's public universities could I have Nicholas Carlson and is it Gabriel Lopez come on [Applause] up so talk to me about what your next step is who wants to talk go ahead um well we were selected as semi-finalists um like he said from over a th000 applicants um now where we go from here is it goes into the finalist stage um right now there's 36 finalists we're going to have a inperson interview at the Flynn foundation in downtown Phoenix and from there they will select 20 winners to get to receive a full R scholarship from any Arizona Public University Nicholas do how do you qualify for this so you okay I got it um I'm pretty sure you need to have a 3.5 GPA and then you just need to submit an application so for a lot of people even that step is just something to get over because it's pretty long and Nicholas what school are you at Gilbert Classical Gilbert Classical Gabriel Gilbert High Gilbert High and we have one more um he's playing basketball right now he's on the varsity basketball team and that's Max Robison uh a Highland High student and so uh Gilbert Public Schools is represented well uh and we as you can tell just from the group before this group here um we're we're extremely lucky and our teachers our support staff and our administrators at our schools do a phenomenal job in supporting you so congratulations to you good luck and uh we look forward to seeing you one more time as winners okay give him a hand gentlemen go ahead and squeeze in here in the middle right here one more time our splint semifinalist I think they're already strategizing good for you ladies and gentlemen that concludes our recognitions for this evening thank you [Music] e thank you Dr McCord um I still remember the word I missed in the spelling be and that was like I'm not going to tell you how many years ago it was um we'll now move to your superintendent report thank you Madame President governing board members good evening everyone again thank you for being here we have some other folks we'd like to give a shout out to uh we have some folks that received the national board uh certification uh and the those are PE it's the national board certification was designed to develop retain and recognize accomplished teachers and to generate ongoing Improvement in schools Nationwide it is the most respected professional certification available in K12 education and we have a couple teachers who have renewed they're already nationally board certified but you have to go through renewal process and uh those teachers are Stephanie saaki from Global and Patricia Smith from Carol Ray Elementary and our new certifications brand new to ncbt uh Nathaniel bourman from Camp overie High School Wendy mcquilkin from Desert Ridge High School and Melissa Nelson from Desert Ridge jior High so a hand for all those folks [Applause] congratulations uh on Friday January 19th I met with council member Bon Giovani along with assistant superintendent Marcy Taylor assistant superintendent uh Jason Martin and our K12 prevention coordinator Susie kadana council member uh Bon Giovani is a member of the town of Gilbert subcommittee on teen violence we had great discussions about the need for the municipalities school districts and communities to come together to help protect our children the subcommittee is interested in sending out a survey to all students in our district surrounding districts charter schools and private schools to to get a better understanding of the struggles teens are facing when it comes to teen violence the survey is being constructed and once that is complete I'll receive it and all the other districts as well will review it before it heads out along those same lines I sent a letter to our families the first week of winter break asking parents to talk with their children about the importance of their child safety while attending our schools are moving around throughout the community of Gilbert we ask them to find out where the most popular Hangouts are we ask them to check their social media and the social media of their friends we ask them to ask as many questions as you can and when you're done ask more questions if you see something or experience something please say something violence has no place in our community or our schools we all parents school districts and the the community need to come together to put our arms around our children and each other to ensure our community is healthy and safe what happened to Preston Lord was unimaginable and heartbreaking please keep their family in your thoughts and prayers and let's keep a watchful eye on our children to ensure nothing like this happens again Mr Jetty that concludes my report for this evening thank you Dr McCord and I I just want to say that I have had heard a lot of very positive comments about your letter and to the community and how positive and and the points that you made so thank you um we'll now move to 7.01 um Financial year 2024 monthly financial report and second quarter financials year to date ending December 31st 2023 Dr McCord thank you madam president governing board members this agenda item and the next one I'll turn over to our associate superintendent of Business Services Miss Bonnie Betts good evening um president ugenti governing board members Dr McCord so I will uh sit at the Das for the monthly financial report then I'll move um to the front of the podium in support of our auditor who is going to who's joining us this evening to present the audited financial statements so um to begin this is our monthly report that we present to you monthly shocking this particular this particular report does include the ctly the second quarter financials um because it represents the year uh to date December 31st 2023 so um this is always what we share the district operating fund grid uh just pointing out me maintenance and operations as well as understated capital the continued uh spend and encumbrance increases are normal during this time of year and expected um and so you'll see some small increases as we complete uh this fiscal year in both of those um in both those funds uh under the federal Grant funds were highlighting the idea high cost as well as the eser3 required 20% set aside U my understanding is that uh later in this uh in this um in this board meeting you will be hearing from the um the team that did the summer school as well as the intercession uh sessions for students and uh so the S 3 the 20% set aside is being utilized to pay for the teachers and the materials for those intercessions as well as summer school in addition the SR 3 is slated to also fund the spring break intercession as well as summer school this summer and any remaining monies will be used to offset the cost of the uh math adoption that we will bring to you probably April May time frame for approval the idea high cost is something that we have not received a lot of in the past uh we we do expect to receive the 21,6 48 in reimbursements it is a full reimbursement Grant not they don't necessarily give us an allocation it's all dependent upon the number of school districts that apply for it every year and so um so uh we do expect to receive the 2,648 in revenues in the high cost Grant uh the state Grant funds were highlighting the Arts consumable Grant as well as the school safety program so the Arts consumable Grant is brand new uh we have applied for it and we are uh planning on using that $600,000 for art education consumables as well as some Performing Arts needs uh this is a little bit of a difficult reporting Grant because it requires us to report by teacher um throughout the school district so thanks to the uh Federal projects team for assisting us with all of that work uh to make sure that we are fully compliant with those requirements and then the school safety program we're just highlighting that because of the negative 10,196 available balance we've talked about this before we are monitoring that to find out whether there will be uh an adjustment that we could actually get additional revenues in that school safety program Grant but if that does not happen this will be cleared up by the end of the year and that overe expenditure will those expend expenses that cause the overe expenditure will be moved to another available fund so that that is zeroed out and then finally on the other funds um we're sharing the joint technical education fund because our year-to-date revenues are much higher than they were last month so we have received our second payment and then just a note we do expect to receive $4.6 million of new J revenues by the end of this school year and then the bond fund is the last fund that we will talk about today you'll notice the security technology and transportation lines that are highlighted um but also uh note that the facility's renewal balance is $2.7 million tonight in the consent agenda you have about 2.3 $2.4 million of requests that will eat up a majority of that so please know that the leadership team as well as um uh doc um Mr Dutch over and Mr castalano and Mr Kaine as well as Trace Toby are all submitting uh information to the leadership team on what their needs are in security technology and transportation possibly we will be able to move some of any available resources from one of those other lines into facility renewal to make sure that we can meet any unexpected expenditure uh through the remainder of this school year and that completes the monthly uh the monthly report are there any questions on the monthly report before I get to the court Le Financial just before you get started I I would be remiss by not saying that um I did not we did not skip the request to speak to the governing board tonight we did not have any requests nor did we have any online ones so that's why we moved to the report so now turn it back to you okay great thank you thank you okay bunny I had just a quick question can you go back to the Arts consumable what did you say again that was used for that grant money the um the for both Performing Arts as well as um the um art classrooms for consumable supplies so paints and materials such as that uh Performing Arts we cannot use it for equipment it is just supplies m&o type expense not Capital expense um and then it has to be reported on a teacher by teer basis Okay so no it cannot be used towards the new art teacher salary that we approved correct okay thank you y okay then moving into the quarterly Financial our practice on the quarterly Financial has been to compare the same time frame a year ago to the current time frame so we always start with revenues so you can see from this grid that we are expecting um we we have received at this time last year about 150 million and this year about 160 million remember that in and that in this particular case we are we you would expect because we're halfway through the year that we should be 50% of expected but this occurrence is due to that state aid delayed rollover that doesn't occur until July of every year so that's the biggest reason there and then note that a year ago we still had County revenue Vues that we were expecting but um um actually that's not true the the um that's the fiscal 23 so both in 20 in December of 22 as well as in December of 23 the County Equalization was um suspended and so you can see the commensurate increase in the state from 84.7 million up to 92.8 year-over-year and then this is that same information presented in a column graph um so again you would expect that since we're expecting $350 million in TW um in fiscal 2024 that we would have about um $175 million year to date and you can see that we only have $160 million total okay um operating Revenue by fund of course you would see that the M fund would have the most dollars and you can see that increase year-over-year 133 to 141 um note the capital a little bit um increased year-over-year primarily that Capital Revenue that $400,000 is actually interest earnings that we have earned um from the uh County Treasurer's Office expected annual revenues again uh in a column graph and then the other thing I wanted to share about um I'll wait and go to the next one when we're talking about expenditures so this is expenditures so operating fund expenditures year-over-year I wanted to bring you back to that operating fund grid that we always share on the monthly financial report so all of the expenditures are really reflective of that grid that you see in these py graphs except that the capital is just unrestricted Capital it does not includes School Plant we recently added School Plant to that grid because we do have we are treating it as a if it's an un unrestricted Capital fund because due to our debt level we're able to use that school plant money that was due to the sale of Neely we have full discretion to use that for unrestricted Capital spend and we do not have to use it to um pay down our outstanding debt because our debt is so low because our debt is so low thank you and then that is the end of our monthly and quarterly financial report today if there's any questions I'm happy to answer any of those so I have an another question if you go back to that pie chart I know tonight on our consent agenda we have the approval of some cooling towers you just mentioned the which budget is that coming out of operating or Capital just based on what you just talked about how we're moving money around and that's coming out of bond so it's coming out of that Bond grid so that $2.7 million that we shared with the monthly Financial it was just gave the bond by itself um those U cooling towers are coming out of the bond bond fund so that $2.7 million will now be 2.3 million available I mean .3 million available about after after you approve that this evening so everything that we're approving this evening is coming out of that Bond not everything Transportation the transportation is just a that's coming out of the bond exactly as well okay that's just a correction it was originally incorrectly put into unrestricted Capital but but transportation as you saw has a resource is allocated so we're correcting the funding source with that consent item and then um and then there are um there's one expenditure um the compressor at the compressor at Finley Farms is coming out of unrestricted Capital unrestricted yeah which is which is in this particular pie chart all right thank you Bonnie does that help you was was the elevator modernization as well out of unrestricted capital I believe we went ahead and H maybe we did that opposite maybe I probably got it backwards right the elevator is coming out of unrestricted capital and the compressor is coming out of bond sorry yeah so the the um the elevator is also eligible to be paid for out of um Bond um but due to the decrease in available resources in bond we opted to fund that $150,000 expenditure at Superstition Springs out of unrestricted capital so miss bets just thank you thank you Mrs wood for that for clarification can can we explain to our community the difference between bond funds and unrestricted capital I think that's that's something that might be challenging to understand sure so um bond funds we have authority to sell bonds to investors and so the bond fund 630 accounts for all of those um proceeds from the sale of those bonds and then we can spend that down over time the unrestricted capital is really part of our Levy funds that we get from the state of Arizona and the and the local local taxpayer through the school Finance act formula so those are what we call Levy funds or in other words District additional assistance correct District additional assistance is the funding source for unrestricted Capital yes yes okay it's just it is hard to understand that we have these different buckets and some of them can be spent on similar items and some of them you know we we can't spend certain things on uh Capital items or certain Capital items so it is very complex and you bet over time I we hope it gets clear but it is complex you bet okay that's all I have with that and then Dr McCord would you like me to move right into the next one there's no more questions okay all right well we move to 7.02 uh fiscal year 2023 annual comprehensive financial report and single audit reporting package and I'm just assuming we're going to give it turn it over to she's to move down to so can you hear me okay oh good it's on so um I'm uh supported today uh by our auditor Mrs Jennifer Shields who's going to participate but I would be remiss if I didn't also identify um Mrs Jackie Matten she plays a huge role in supporting the audit process every year and also Lauren toska is in the audience as well so to begin now we just talked primarily about the current fiscal year but now we're going back to last year to June 30 of 2023 which was fiscal 2023 we're in fiscal 2024 so I want to make sure that you're all aware that we're talking about the audited Financial results from a year ago okay or from a half a year ago I guess you think okay so today's report um Mrs Shields will present the audit process and results as well as the single audit report the single audit report is focused on our federal funds and then um I wanted to share you all have the books in front of you I wanted to share a little bit about the organization of the book so that if you're interested in a particular piece of information it would be more easily found um by you and note that they're all tabbed for your for your benefit and then um finally other items to note which is really the results of our audit and our and our financial status here in Gilbert Public Schools so to begin I'm going to hand this over to Mrs Jennifer Shields to share the audit process and our results good evening Madame President members of the board Dr McCord thanks for allowing me a few minutes this evening to share with you the audit process results and um this will be a little bit of surprise for me Bonnie tells me that I have two slides up here so we'll see what the second slide is um here let's just see right now oh it's it's the single a report let me um start by first just going over some of the required Communications you all were um likely provided a letter format but I'll go through kind of the key um elements of the written format um we'll start with um the timeline for the audit it starts really once we Eng um issue an engagement letter and excuse me for the fiscal 23 audit that happened in May of 23 and then what that does is that allows us to get started on the actual audit procedures we perform procedures during quite a long period of time and um we started the procedures in June we did those procedures remotely we do um procedures we come out and do a site visit I believe we did in August as well as September and then we finished up the audit procedures on site here in October of 2023 and then after we're done with that what we do is we go back to our office and we take all of the information and we sort of compile it into this lovely um annual comprehensive financial report that I like to personally geek out over because it has lots of good information for you all um once that is put together we provide a draft of that to management and we did that in December it was December 20th so right before the winter holidays and then the report was ready for issuance on December 29th and then we're here before you tonight to present the results of that um the audit opinion itself was unmodified so that's first and foremost is to know that you're um essentially getting what's known as a clean opinion it's an unmodified opinion there was a new accounting standard that was implemented during the fiscal 23 audit which um we call spedas or spitas um and what it does is it um it requires um any long-term subscription based Information Technology arrangements to be analyzed and if there are long long term um liabilities associated with these long-term subscription agreements then you would report those inside your audited financials with respect to that um we worked with Finance staff and determined there were no um no items that needed to be reported um there there might certainly be some some of those agreements out there but they didn't rise to the um level that needed reporting um we did not have any difficulties that we encountered with management management was very helpful um Miss bets pointed out miss manin and miss torsa and a lot of other individuals um play a huge role in providing um our audit team with just a ton of information so that we can complete our audit procedures so um you know my hat is off to them because it's no easy feat to deal with all of our requests for for information so no difficulties encountered management was able to provide all information for us and there um were also no uncorrected misstatements that were required to let you know about so all of that is very good and then um shifting gears we'll talk about the single audit report as well so we have a draft of that out with management right now for review and approval the single audit report is the report that includes all of the federal assistance and the expenditures made uh by the district for things like um child nutrition programs Title One education all of what we call here at the district user money so those education stabilization funds all of those types of expenditures are part of the single audit and the single audit report is also where we would report any deficiencies in internal control if those were noted I'm happy to report that in the draft we are not anticipating writing any findings or deficiencies and internal controls and um our compliance opinion on the federal program that we tested is also unmodified and I did a look back um for a couple of years and you have a what in the single audit report um there is a schedule of expenditures of federal Awards and so that's the basis for the single audit there was over $38 Million worth of federal expenditures made by the district during fiscal 23 comparison to last year fiscal 22 there was about 41 million so as you kind of you know think about you know um I think the the Esser programs are you know winding down here in the near future um I looked back to prepandemic levels of federal funding and back in 2019 just for comparison purposes the district had about $20 million so you know we've over the last couple of fiscal years you've seen like almost double the amount of um Federal expenditures with um with the single audit sorry I have to peek at this um we looked at a total of five Federal programs this year so that's a lot of federal programs that get audited um just to draw your attention to the programs that we audited we looked at title one we looked at special education um we looked at what's called supporting effective instruction which is um the grants that we use to do a lot of um teacher professional development um we also looked at the education stabilization fund which is um those Esser funds and then last but not least what is referred to as the Corona virus state and local fiscal recovery funds which is a mouthful um that those monies are the monies that come from the governor's office and there there were some changes during last fiscal year but they had to do with um like a 100 day Grant and also um some summer enrichment type programs and so all of those Federal programs were audited this last year and so again um you know we we give a a huge shout out to finance for getting all of the information but a lot of the information that comes with the single audit we end up dealing with program Personnel so director of federal programs and the the individuals that run those Federal programs and so they um are to be thanked as well this evening so um those are all of my required Communications and with that I'd be happy to stand for questions or turn it back over to miss bets oh there is said it did I already say it oh there we go yes so oh yes um the um single audit is actually required when you as an agency spend more than $750,000 so obviously spending close to 40 million is significantly in excess of $750,000 so that's what um precipitates the need to have this type of audit and then of course um the two bullets which I stated which are what we audited in terms of the federal programs as well as the fact that we had no significant deficiencies nor material weaknesses thank you before down I there might be some questions okay yeah I I do have one excuse me um when you who makes the decision on which areas are audited every year I know you can't audit every single thing sure um are do you mean with for the single audit or just in general in general um well with the single audit there's actually a risk-based program um process that we follow um the the federal government issues they issued something called uniform guidance and that spells out what the requirements are and we have to look at the largest programs and audit those at least every third year um there's also a rule that the federal government or its agencies can identify a particular program as high-risk and that would require that um program to be audited in the single audit so in the case of Gilbert Public Schools both your Esser and your Corona virus um we call them Slifer state and local fiscal recovery funds um both of those are designated by the federal government as high risk because they are new and they were um part of those large um Federal Acts to um you know mitigate the spread of covid and get get um get everything back to normal so those funds were identified as high- risk so we were required to test those two programs um and then because of the requirement that programs be tested at least every third year for the large ones Title One and special education had not been audited for the past 2 years so those were required to be um audited as well um then with respect to other areas um Financial areas of the audit much of that is precipitated by compliance requirements so the uniform system of um compliance records that is issued by the auditor General's office has a lot of um procedures that we have to follow so like for example when we look at student attendance records or Student Activities um you know receipts and dispersements and those types of things those are because the state requires that and then other areas that we choose for financial audit have to do with our risk assessment process and determining whether or not there are high-risk areas within the district that need to be audited thank you other questions Mrs Paige um just a quick question thank you for your presentation if the public wants to access these reports is there somewhere they can go to look at them I'll defer to miss bets but um there is a requirement that they be posted on the district's um website so that post they're posted on the website thank you well I just wanted to express appreciation um we as school districts we have to be very careful to spend our money in a fiscally responsible way and I think the audit and the auditor General's report those kind of things help our community to know that we're using their text dollars in the way that we promised that they're used for the benefit of students so thank you for um ensuring that we're in compliance in the way that we're doing things any other questions thank you okay thanks is that it Mrs bets or do you have do you have more you have more right I thought so on now only two slides I should have known you should have known better of course so um the annual uh comprehensive financial report the act for this is the document that's in front of you that holds all of our audited financial statements so as I indicated a little bit earlier we wanted to just kind of walk quickly through this book so that you have an understanding of each of the sections so I'd like to put you through the top where it says statistical section it's the it's the the topmost tab so that's what we're going to talk about first and just wanted to share like three or four of the of the um tables that are in there um to give you an idea of some of the information that might be useful to you so um the statistical section includes Financial Trends Revenue capacity debt capacity demographic and economic information as well as some information regarding how we as gilber public schools operate so as an example we'll talk about this a little bit later but this is net position by component the last 10 years so for us this is the meat and potatoes of our audited financial statements because net position gives our bond holders gives the taxpayer gives you all information as to the financial status of Gilbert Public Schools but I wanted to to go back to 2014 2015 um in which if you look at 2014 we had a very high total net position and then you look at 2015 it was like oh my gosh what the heck happened we have a negative restricted a negative um restricted amount that that is a little bit hard to understand when you're going back and looking what could have happened between 14 and 15 well at that point in time it was due to a new gby regulation that then required us to include in our net position statement the um our proportionate share of Arizona State retirements unfunded liability so it's only at the net position financial statements it's nowhere else and it's important to note that Gilbert Public Schools is not responsible ever for paying that deficit the intent was to make sure that the community knew that there was an unfunded liability associated with a defined benefit program such as Arizona State Retirement so it's important to understand that because it really skews how we look um as an organization and then um the other thing that's back there in the statistical section it can show the district tax rate history the first thing I wanted to point out is the trend line note that from 2014 to 2023 our tax rate continues to go down but if you look at 2015 16 and 17 you can see where the secondary tax rate plummeted that was when we lost the um override altogether in fiscal 16 was when we did not have those override funds at all and then we received them back in 2000 for fiscal 17 and then you're looking at fiscal 20 versus fiscal 2021 where you can see that both the secondary as well as the total increased that was when we were successful in November of 19 to go from a 10% override to a 15% override so the point is is that by going back into the statistical section you can see some of these Trends and see what happened at least back 10 years um and then finally this is uh an example of an operational table that shows how Gilbert Public Schools is operating in terms of the number of types of staff so if you look at the supervisory position and this is only a sub of the table that's actually part of the statistical section but our supervision of instruction our highest level of leaders you can see from 2020 through 2023 it it has remained relatively flat we're not adding any um of our highest highest level administrators if you look at instruction our teachers and Librarians you can see it's stayed fairly consistent over the last 5 years and then uh finally if you take a look at student services the social workers well what happened in 2020 versus 2021 2021 was the first time that we were able to use the additional 5% of override dollars and we made a commitment that we were going to increase Mental Health Counselors and social workers at that point so that accounts for going from 24 to 34 between those two years and then finally if you look at the support and admin the bus drivers in 2020 going from 180 down to 160 at that point in time transportation was implementing the new routing software allowing us to be more efficient um and so then we were able to increase the number of FTE of our bus drivers and van drivers so those are uh good examples of what's back in the statistical section and the community might be interested in some of that information so before I go on are there any questions on any of those I did want to point out that the um excuse me the when we um the nonp passage of the override in 20 I believe was 2013 it takes a year and a half to 2 years before that actually um is implemented into our budget the vote was in 2013 that's correct um and then also 2019 it took until 2021 for us to actually receive those funds and then be able to use them so there's a a delay from when the voters vote until the implementation whether we get additional funds or whether we have to deal with the um consequence of losing so I just want people to be aware of that that's correct so it was actually in fiscal 2020 so November of 19 is in fiscal 2020 so during that year of the election the tax rate is already established which is why it has to be delayed until the subsequent year so obviously going from a 10% to a 15% it would impact the tax rate yes thank you yeah um so then the rest of the eer book we're going to zoom through that um so if you go to the next tab at the Top This is where you have your fund financials if you're interested in what's going on with classroom site fund inst structal Improvement or our food service fund the details of Revenue versus expenditures versus fund balance that will reside in that section the next section is required supplementary information this is a budget to actual gen uh general fund based budget to actual treatment um includes some other details regarding Arizona State Retirement and stuff like that if you go to the next section that is the notes section so this is notes that are related to our financial statements that might give you information about well what is our outstanding go go debt General obligation debt what is our outstanding debt how much is it when do we expect to pay it all off those kinds of things are in the note section and then the financial section is what I've what I've termed as the meats and potatoes of the audit financials so that includes your um your manage M discussion and Analysis which is the mdna that's required of of us in our office to describe what is the story behind the numbers that are being shared in all the financial statements also in there are your your governmental and your government-wide statements so the government-wide is the highest level and we'll go into some of those details in the next couple of slides so that is all I had about the act for book and so before I go into some details are there any other questions is this available online also to the public yes thank you you bet okay so the government-wide financials as I indicated to you just earlier the government-wide financials is really the organization as a whole and these financials are what they call a full acral treatment which means we have all of our outstanding debt that's going to be a liability for a long time we also have depreciation reflected here as as well as our um asset value so the value of all of our buildings those are all included in the government-wide financials so as an example here's our government wide net position this is again an indicator of the financial status of Gilbert public schools at the end of um June 30 2023 so I want to point uh point out the change in that position so a year ago in 2022 we actually increased our net position by nearly $55 million in the current fiscal year we actually increased our net position by nearly $33 million anytime you have an increase in that position it's a very it's reflective very positively on the organization and our bond holders and taxpayers should be should be pleased to see um this kind of result okay any questions on that SP can you give us um I'm sorry that I'm I'm just trying to figure out so what would cause the net increase like that just give me I'm trying to track this in my mind here so um since it's government-wide it's the entire organization so uh we had a bond sale at the end of June 2023 and it was about $19 million it's hard to spend $19 million in a couple of months um so that would contribute to the net position on a cash basis that's just an example everything like that okay thank you m okay so the governmental financials so this is on a modified acral basis so we don't have the data regarding um depreciation expense or regarding um our assets or our outstanding uh G General obligation debt um and this is closer to more of a operating type funds but it's aggregated into um categories and so the categories are the general fun fund special Revenue fund and they have Bond separate and Debt Service separate but this particular slide shows the expenses by function so this is that the governmental and all of those funds are included in this governmental comparison so what I wanted to point out was when you look at 2022 on the left and compare it to 2023 on the right I wanted to point out instruction so note that instruction in 2022 was about 58% of this p and in 2023 it was 57% of the Pi so very very close um but why do we care about that well it does give us an indicator of what our results will be when the auditor general provides to us in another couple of months the district spending report so we're always comparing the ACA results to the district spending report only because it gives us an idea of how we're doing um in terms of how we're spending money um it's not directly related because the rules regarding the district spending report that the auditor general uses um in Arizona is very different than this treatment in the Acer so specifically again let's focus on the 58% in 2022 we know what the district spending report was in 2022 so we're giving that information to you so the acfer said we're about 58% instruction the auditor General's report came out month two months later and it showed that instruction percentage was 59.6% so it does give us an idea of how we're doing and that we're spending our money where where we need to spend our money which is in the classroom any questions on that before I go any further okay um fund balances we've we're always talking about fund balance um because over the past three years due to the eser funds we've been trying to be very careful and having as much fund balance as POS possible to give us future flexibility and how we're able to spend monies so we've been focused on being very diligent about how we're spending money and trying to maintain uh a very positive fund balance so you can look at our total fund balance and remember this is this is governmental now this is all funds not just our operating funds this is not just the general fund or the M fund so I want to make sure that that's clear this is all of our funds classroom site fund bond funds all of them are included in this in this treatment so you can see our fund balance has gone down year uh year-over year by about $5 million 213 214 million down to 208 million but note these two items so you we have a policy it's policy DB in which you adopted some changes about 3 years ago allowing us to designate fund balances um so that it's it gives more information to the reader so the total the total um assigned we added assigned fund balance back in um back in 2021 I think we is when we approved that policy change and so in 20122 we assigned $2,150 th000 so the 20 million was the planned Arizona State Retirement contribution the prepay of the Arizona State Retirement contribution and the $50,000 was how much money we gave back to our schools because you all approved that any unspent discretionary monies at each of our schools would come back to them in the subsequent year so $150,000 was awarded to each individual School based upon how they spent in the year prior so that was the assignment back a year ago so now the other uh total assigned um for the current fiscal year 202 3 is about 5050 million but you can see that I circled this restricted this restricted fund balance so that $20 million that was assigned in 2022 became a restricted fund balance in 2023 because that's not free for us to spend we can spend it um it's it's was considered for this particular treatment as sort of an investment and we can't ever take that money out we have to use it to offset future Arizona State Retirement contributions and then remember that by doing that prepay we did earn about $400,000 of Interest earnings because we we made that that decision so just wanted to make sure that that there was a conversation about fund balance in this report any questions on any of that okay great so we're always sharing revenues by Source um you can see that back in fiscal 20 22 we had a County Equalization then you can see the county a revenue of $13 million but in 2023 the County Equalization was eliminated and you can see that the state picked up the difference so that was what I had shared earlier as well regarding County Equalization and then now we're into other items to note um this is just fun information that we've presented I know you guys are all laughing at me I Sherbon this is really fun so other items to note so Food Services Fund performance I'm not going to go through the details of this just see that in 2023 which is very similar to 2020 we were drawing down fund balance but in 2021 and 2022 we were actually building fund balance because that was when we were on the universal free um uh lunch breakfast and lunch so we really benefited from that so this is just that same Revenue Trend over time I just wanted to point out if you look at 2019 we always include 2019 because that was pre pandemic results and you can see when you look at 2019 and compar to 2023 they're almost they they're almost identical and you can see how the the pandemic related Universal free impacted Us in 21 and 2022 and though the free the universal free did not if you remember in 2020 that was the year which we were starting the covid pandemic so 2021 and 2022 were the two years in which we enjoyed the advantages of the universal free lunch again these are meals I'm going to zoom through this you can see the meal pattern again you look at 2019 versus 2023 again looking at 21 and 22 you can see that the alart sales were very low why would anybody spend any money when breakfast and lunch are free so you can see the difference in in the Food Service uh funds the employee benefit trust performance um enjoy sharing this with you so we had a gosh it seems like we've been doing this for a long time but it was just a year ago that we changed how we were going to operate the employee benefit trust and due to that change in 2023 we realized $522,000 in investment earnings not that that's our intention to earn money but it does offset some of our expenses and allows us to control those premium increases to our employees in the future um and then the bond fund finally the bond fund and note the um two uh highlighted rows so the revenue this is investment Revenue in the bond fund and note the transfer out so in Arizona this is not true in most States but in in Arizona statute requires us to we're allowed to earn interest on our bond proceed Pro seeds that come to us after a bond sale but we're not allowed to keep that interest we have to transfer that money into The Debt Service fund so it goes to um decrease the taxpayer um debt uh debt burden so and then finally note the the end of your balances so I just shared with you that there's $2.7 million well a little bit more than that may less than $10 million left in the bond fund today but remember that fiscal 23 is as of June 30 remember that we had a significant amount of work that is still actually going on using up those bond funds um so that $27.9 million was true at june30 of 2023 but has since been encumbered and drawn down leaving us um about $8 million in the full bond fund today and then this is just information for you again due to our short amortization our short time frame of amortization you can see that our um our projected outstanding principle at this year end is um or at 2023 year end is I'm sorry this is um projected so it was 152 down to 131 so we are um paying out our principle very quickly and then you can see the general obligation debt to assess value ratio Contin Ed to decline again um that's why we're able to use School Plant monies as freely as we are for unrestricted Capital type expenditures uh compensated absences is one part of the uh value that we must put onto that government wide at the highest level it's a long-term liability compensated absences are associated with our medical days that are not used our sick days um medical days or sick days um personal leave days vacation days that are expected to be paid out at at an employee separation we're obligated to calculate that annually and then finally this is the last slide um this is Arizona State Retirement so I shared a little bit about how this net pension liability impacted our net position back between 2014 and 2015 this is our proportionate share 276 million just for Gilbert Public Schools again just to reiterate we are not not responsible for paying that back that is really a liability for Arizona State Retirement the intent of the gby regulation is to make sure that the community and the taxpayer knew that there was this outstanding liability that eventually would have to be paid uh the next so the B section here is just a what they call a sensitivity analysis so as Arizona State Retirement does Better or Worse on their Investments you can see how that would increase Gilbert's net pension liability so if the if the discount rate or the interest rate earned by Arizona State Retirement is 6% instead of 7% our liability would go up to $48 million conversely if they're successful and have an average 8% return then our liability goes down to 167 million and then finally um in because we did do this we we took advantage of what they call a contribution prepayment program with Arizona State Retirement it's important for us to understand what is the annualized rate of return for Arizona State Retirement over time so in 20123 you can see that their annualized rate of return was 8% which was which was very um positive for both the net pension liability as well as just for our beneficiaries of the Arizona State Retirement throughout the State of Arizona and then these are just the contribution rates as they change over time and then this is just a note for you um we we discovered um through the audit committee that there was an error on our AFR pres presentation we decided to take this opportunity to show the error so you can see that $180 million is not 37% of the total $107 million is not 62% of the total so we corrected it on the next slide um so this is the the corrected and and we did correct it back to the October 10th presentation as well and after that I don't have anything further yay any questions well that was a very detailed presentation and we do appreciate it we do if you're not interested in hearing all this don't be on a school board that's my because that's our job that's our job to make sure that we understand how the finances are being managed and the only reason I I know know it's we spend a lot of time on this it is the most important financial report of any fiscal year and so um it's important that we go through some of it so thank you for your Indulgence and your time thank you thank you bnny you and I I just want to say that I you know being transparent is so very important and you do it very well you put the fun in itk you okay we'll move on to 7.03 teaching and learning academic Spotlight Dr McCord thank you madam president governing board members I will hand it over to our assistant superintendent of teaching learning Mr Jared Ryan Madam president governing board Dr McCord thank you um as Bonnie alluded to a few moments ago um directing funds at specified programs is something that we take very seriously in ensuring that money is spent um really well and directed toward our classrooms and directed toward our students uh at all times and so you all have given us the the latitude by moving to a uh and supporting a modified school Round uh year round school schedule to support our students academically during intercessions and through various programs in summer and tonight um Miss uh Taylor and Dr Martin are going to brought a a group of people to join us here this evening and talk about the great work that they're doing and share with you um some of the great work going on with our students and in the buildings during those times thank you Mr Ryan governing board members Dr McCord thank you tonight for the presentation tonight we're going to be uh administrative services along with the teaching and learning department is going to go over with an overview of the various programs that we've been offering our students the last couple of years during our spring and fall intercessions as well as our summer school programs I want to note that these programs are separate from our traditional Elementary summer school and secondary um summer school programs those are totally separate programs as Miss bets had alluded these are paid out of Esser funds currently right now um and they uh have helped all of our students the first program that we're going to talk about tonight um is our elementary brain boot camp program then during the summer and it's designed to assist students with deficits in both the ELA and math math areas before moving on to the next grade level and tonight we have Mr Bill McDonald who will be covering that he is our current dean of students at neie Traditional Academy and Highland Park Elementary and then also Cheryl Pollock nuer our director of federal programs will be interpers throughout the presentation tonight giving lots of different data about our various K through2 programs Miss Taylor Madame President governing board Dr McCord at the secondary level our summer transition ition programs are focused on meeting the needs of students during those critical transition years between Elementary to Junior High and then again between junior high and high school um as Mr Ryan said with the adoption of that modified yearr round school calendar uh we made a commitment to the community to offer academic support during the second week of both fall and spring breaks uh and doing that K12 uh so in addition to that the secondary has taken it a little little bit further and offered great enhancement opportunities uh at both the junior high and high school during both the fall and the spring during those inter sessions to assist secondary students if they were failing any courses uh and so our team here tonight is going to give you the details of those programs as well as some of the data that we've seen over the last two years uh the secondary team we have Adam stro who is the dean of students at Gilbert High Christina Jackson who's the dean of students at Desert Ridge High School and Johnny stagel who's an assistant principal at mosqu Jr all right there we go uh good evening Madame President governing board and Dr McCord uh thank you for the opportunity to really showcase uh these programs that we offer here uh for our Gilbert students um I'm really proud of the the program we do uh for the elementary boot camp it's uh really gives a a a good opportunity for students to really address those who have the greatest needs of of those math deficits and Ela deficits um at the elementary level um and really uh it's a big Showcase of all the good programs and good departments and people we have here in Gilbert it's it's a collaboration of the federal gr grants programs um the CIA program contributes a lot to it um and builds the curriculum for it um and then obviously transportation and our teaching staff uh really uh the whole district is it touches the program and make sure it's as successful as it is um the way our boot cramp uh is is run and I'm just going to give you really an overview of what it looks like and really the days of lives of a student that uh enters our program um is like I said it it really addresses the students um who have those highest needs and really we tried to um give them a really rich and fulfilling experience that really addresses it from a hands-on experience um you know even though the the goal is to improve and show growth in that math and Ela we know with such a short amount of time that we do see those students uh three weeks in our program um you know as much growth as we can show that would be great but really the the biggest impact we can make on those students is if we can kind of foster or uh spark that that love of learning in those students something that Beyond those three weeks they can take back to their campuses and will help them really uh uh flourish and back in those environments students that maybe um up until that point uh maybe had lost that love of learning or kind of kind of felt a little bit more distraught about the you know what's going on in the classroom and and their their experiences there um so that was really our Focus as we put together the program uh the students uh were identified um really from as being the bottom cortile in their schools uh we looked at data from fastbridge and um their ASM mimic scores um and really identified where those students were um and then we sent the a list of those students to the campuses um we found over um uh checking and reviewing our processes over the last few years that letting the um the teachers the instructional coaches at those campuses who have that uh that close relationship with those families those students let them reaching out and kind of sending the invitation out and creating that connection with them um really served well in increasing our numbers over the last couple years um as the students were identified and ID uh invited uh then they enrolled in our program um and they they got to come to really three regional sites um where each one of sites served uh8 to nine schools um in those areas that way we kind of reached Each corner of the district and there wasn't kids that had to come from one side and had to come all the way over to the east side or the west side there was something in their in their neighborhood um it was 3 weeks in the summer uh they students were there for 4 days um during that time um they obviously had Fridays off uh but they would rotate um from classes you seen math Ela um uh science they would have a stem class and they would also Al uh rotate through a specialist class that was a big part of it um students were uh provided breakfast lunch and transportation free of charge the transportation was from their home campuses uh so if they would just go to there as a little Hub and we would make sure we got them over to uh the the campus where they were going to be at I'm going to see if I don't do this look at that it worked okay um the classes we we tried to keep small uh we capped them at uh 16 thereabouts and that was uh in intentional so that way the students would get as much um uh in individual attention they would have a little bit more feedback uh from the teachers on a personal level as much as possible um and obviously we know smaller class sizes helps helps helps them learn um like I said before we had the The Three core classes math reading and stem um the curriculum was created by uh our CIA department and um like I said it was all handson the kids were playing math games that and they they would they would tell you that this this is fun I love math this is great cuz they were they to them they were they were just playing Math Games the whole time and really um uh Christy who all put together uh really good math uh lessons that really really attacked those fundamental and foundational skills that we needed the students to really gain between the end of the grade they were in and going into uh the next grade um the uh specialist classes that we offered were music art and PE and the kids would rotate through that throughout the week just like they would during the normal school year um we uh established a el cohort and in that cohort uh the students that were in there um during their Ela time they would actually go to the ell elll teacher um and they would uh give them curriculum uh that they designed for them specifically and then we also had ell peras that was supported not only them in that elll classroom but they would go to the science and math classes to make sure the students were supported there um and then finally just to make sure that the the students had a great experience and we created that connection with the families uh we would run what was called a family engagement night um and that was a night where we would invite the parents uh out to not only um do some activities and um get the chance to see the kids on campus but really see a lot of the good work that they were doing um and each campus ran that separately and it just gave us the opportunity to work with those kiddos um I'm going to flip over to the next slide and I'm going to invite Cheryl up uh who's going to give you some of the more nitty-gritty details since I didn't put as many uh charts and bar graphs on my slides but just one question um abely on the previous slide you had bik so were're students who were identified were they able to attend the brain boot camp and then go to vik afterwards is that thank you yes absolutely good question they did so we worked uh hand inand with the vik program uh and so students who were in The Vi program they would be busted from those bik spots to uh the regional site that was uh closest to them so we had three viik sites um that they would go come from um they would work with us and then we would send them back to vik um and uh they would finished their day over at vik and so uh we worked really well with them to make sure and coordinate that that that was smooth and that the parents knew where their kids were and we all knew where everybody was going all right thank you you're welcome thank [Music] you thanks Jason Madame President board members and Dr McCord so brain boot camp in 2023 we had about 78 teachers um who participated to teach our students through that program we serviced approximately 877 students as um my colleague said it was three weeks Monday through Thursday about 5 and a half hours per day some of the feedback that we received from parents were things like it was a great program provided extra learning for my student helped my son so much this summer and he had a great time so we tried to really um marry you know the academic piece with also the kids having some fun it is summer and of course we tried to um marry those two things together and I think we were fairly successful the cost for brain boot camp is about $250,000 um all told approximately and um that's what we saw we spent last year although this last summer we did pay for um the boot camp out of the um summer enrichment Grant which came out of the governor's office so it was not this last summer was not Esser and it was not title it was um out of the governor's office so we've since closed that Grant out um as far as academic growth post boot camp of the students that participated we saw about 22% growth in math and about 26% growth in ela from beginning of year assessment to beginning of your assessment the next year questions about that okay sorry was that the total for the entire year a test from the beginning of one school year to the next school year or was that the growth per summer that was the growth that we saw over summer but we did it from beginning of the year year Data before the kids came to us to beginning of the year data when they exited the okay thank you all right I'm going to move move on to the spring and fall intercession boot camps which um were really the summer boot camp but then scaled back um to a one-week program 5 days uh and then specifically we targeted um so like in the uh let's say for example the fall intercession it' be those foundational skills and standards that the students uh were would have been getting in the first quarter and so same thing we would have identified the bottom quartile from uh from the data we retrieved from first quarter um and invited those students to our program um and it's obviously a little bit more rapid turnaround because we're trying to get those kids and get the invitations out before uh fall intercession vacation plans are are set um the students were still provided with the uh breakfast and transportation for free um it was a little bit of a shorter program so now instead of having um the specials uh classes for the students uh the students were actually with us for um a total of about three three three hours cuz they were with us for an hour and a half for math an hour and a half for ELA and then we would send them home um and then the uh um uh we serve the same three regions uh we we tried to marry those with the um uh the same schools that we had for the summer school and and that way the kids were at a familiar campus and then we rotates those campuses from year to year thanks so for elementary intercession we had 36 teachers participate we serviced 49 5 students um it was about 3 hours a day um and it it's been typically from my understanding held the second week of intercession again we got some really good feedback from families um one comment was my child was excited to tell me all the things he learned every day he even went home and um made his mom quiz him which was so cute and he was you know very excited with himself that he got all the answers correct so it it's nice to read those things um another comment was my child enjoyed going and learned some tools he will use when he's back in the classroom which is the goal um let me go back here for elementary intercession um the cost for that program is approximately $83,000 per intercession and that did come from Sr funds this year so as far as academic growth though the numbers we hope for across the board um were probably not as great as we would have liked to see it is a onewe program the turnaround round is very tight we did see some really great both growth in both math and Ela and if you look at the graph more specifically in third grade and fifth grade and then again in ela in fourth and sixth grade we saw a lot of movement there as well I'm just going to stay here no you're good awesome Madame President members of the board and Dr mcord uh I'm excited to be able to talk to you guys about the junior high part of it you know as we're going into the secondary no longer talking about elementary a little bit um but what's cool about the secondary this is talking about our transition programs of the summer um every junior high does relatively the same style um however I'm also going to be able to talk talk to you guys the excitement part that happens at mosqu junor so it's kind of a little bit different but talking about junior high as a whole um kind of similar to what's happening at the elementary uh schools uh it's however they're two-e programs um there's four days a week during the summer um ranging from anywhere to 3 to 4 hours in that morning time and the goal is to help help those individual students with Ela math um and then as well as helping them transition from that tough time of Elementary to Junior High if they're a little bit nervous going into that so they get some of the cool stuff and this is for all Junior highs um that take place they get get some of the swag they get to meet some of the teachers that they get to be paired up with um going into that seventh grade year as well as getting to know a counselor and some Administration and of course familiar with the campus as they transition into that point um what's kind of cool about what the junior highs do as well as mosqu Jor um with us being a little bit different is targeting those individual students specifically um so with that Ela math I'm helping those individuals out at mosqu Jr um we were lucky enough to be able to use some of our Title One monies uh to do a little bit different um so we were able to add in elective courses uh during that summer to extend that time so students transition from they're in different cohorts so they would go from English math to an elective or math English elective whatever the cohort may take place um in those electives would be your art your PE and then our facts the family and consumer science so the homech um for back in the day and so what as awesome with that is using some of that money we're able to get those students excited about mosquet Jr and excited about that transition that does take place um and we're also very benef uh benefited from uh everyone on that secondary part as well as the junior highs all of them across uh we're able to get the food and nutrition as well as Transportation un luckily mosqu Jr food and nutrition already hands out um their summer meals at mosqu Jr so made it a nice easy transition for our students as well to see where our cafeteria is uh where the allart session would be as well as our bus stops um so it was a very beneficial opportunity for our students to see those exciting things um and that's something that we have definitely taken on uh as well as our elll this is one more thing I just want to add in there our English language Learners uh they did have the opportunity to uh participate in our summer transition programs as well we did have a el teacher as well as our El peras um and of course our special education students as well we made sure to have peras and a social worker on campus during this time to be able to make sure that transition goes smooth but also students to feel more comfortable and at home and to get the benefits that they need academically to support them awesome pass Madame President members of the board Dr mcco I'm going to talk on the high school transition program at this point and what's nice about this program is it's very similar to the junior high so it's the students that have been identified as most at risk it's the students that might have academic concerns might have social emotional concerns might have behavioral concerns I just have attendance concerns these are kids that they struggle with going to school and making that transition from Junior High to high school is a big jump and so this was a program was developed four hours per day and the idea was to ease that transition for atrisk kiddos and so these are it was a very intentional process of defining who these students were it was done in collaboration with the junior highs and this is done at all of our high schools but they all look a little bit different based on the individual needs of each high school so I'll talk a little bit more to what was done at Gilbert High but know that this is a very similar process across our district and so we had two ELA teachers and two Math teachers and those students attended an Ela block and a math block during the day but we also were very intentional with at least of the Gilbert side of things of those students we had in the program we tried to match those students with those same English and math teachers for their school year so they already have some of those relationships built they already know some of those teachers and they because these are also we're matching those students they also know some kids coming in on day one so it's a nice little hey I know somebody when I get here we also build in an advisory period and so they have a time in between the ELA block and the math block where they could learn more about opportunities available to them at Gilbert High School and so we had days where they had student council presenting things to them they had days where they had Athletics presenting different opportunities for them Performing Arts band Orchestra choir presenting opportunities for them got to learn about various clubs robotics speech and debate we have a jam Club where we basically have a rock band club on campus kids got to learn about these different opportunities right right and then they also got to learn about some of the resources available to them counseling services and just being able to know some of those processes and opportunities for them before they walk in on day one and then like the junior high and like the elementary Transportation was provided Food Services was provided and all that was provided free of charge for the students so any questions no you answered my question I was wondering about Jam Club so thank you for so started out as a few kids wanted to learn how to play guitar there was a teacher that said yeah we can do that and now we have like 40 plus students in there multiple bands they put on shows it's it's a it's organically grown it's acoustic guitar electric guitar both okay yeah I'll come visit but I think I'll bring my head out I'll help you out y I thought that meant making Jam like raspberry that was that was my question I'm like that sounds start that so actually I went to high school a very long time ago back east and I was in a class that was actually called Rock Band I got credit for that it was crazy but a lot of fun a lot of kids would come to school for that it's what brought me to school my entire senior year so so with regard to the secondary transition programs as my colleagues have said we have four Junior highs including um GCA typically 8 days over 2 weeks five high schools each school has a little bit of a different program um and the cost for um those transition programs are approximately $888,000 um all up with the exception of mosquite as they have typically used some of their title funds for those programs um and their program has typically cost about um $33,000 there was no charge to them for food um due to their title status so that was good for them um and again all the programs have typically um focused on um academics electives and then support in that transition from you know school to school I do I do have a question um because brain boot camp we paid for that with Esser funds and grants and this intercession I'm not sure if we're going to plan to continue the brain boot camp but the intercession was part of the reason why we changed our calendar so what is our thoughts about how we're going to uh provide for these programs going forward out of our budget well it's a great question we're going to budget for it because that was a commitment we made uh as when we change calendars and so we'll have to figure out one way or another to fund it okay yeah all right just wondering thank you madam president board members and Dr McCord I get to talk to you about secondary intercession um this is a grade enhancement opportunity for our students so what we look at with this is the grades that come out of the first and the third quarter so once we identify which students are in need of a grade enhancement we invite them to join us for intercession um we offer specific courses in math English and science for junior high and high school um we have two locations Gilbert High School and Desert Ridge High School um and what we do is we kind of organized them into two different potential classes they can make they can get the grade enhancement for one or two and so we have an a session in a b session we run about 8: to noon um what we do then is we will recommend back to the home campus that they get a 60% that's the max this is why we focus on kids who really need the enhancement as opposed to finding a place for kids to get enrichment if that makes sense a little difference there we do offer free breakfast and transportation um and we hire about 20 certified teachers for that we employ uh the CIA curriculum and we give teachers a box with everything ready to go in it so they just deliver this information it's very organized and well-run and the kids really seem to enjoy it so we've had a very good success rate with that Cheryl will talk to you about the data on the other side but we're looking forward to doing this in Spring as well Adam runs it at Gilbert High School and I'll be doing it at Desert Ridge so as you just heard for our intercession at the high schools or our grade enhancement program we employ approximately 20 teachers approximately 185 students have participated and it costs about $70,000 per intercession to run some of the survey feedback that we've received is that um this session helped my daughter get up to speed with math and helped her confidence and we hear that a lot that students go they get some you know remediation some of those skills that they may have missed and then they go back feeling a lot more confident which is really nice to hear um one comment was he loved the smaller class sizes and felt he was improving his learning so it's nice for students to be self-aware about those things as you can see in 2022 of the students who um who attended uh 61% of those students maintained Ed a passing grade at the end of semester so we're pretty excited about those results and in 2023 of the students who attended we saw about 54% of them also maintain passing grades at in that class at semester's end questions about that any questions at all I've got a couple questions sure um going back to Jill's to miss Humphrey's question about being able to uh continue this program um has it has uh have you ever considered getting student volunteers instead of hiring um or Contracting with teachers to run these uh to run these programs during the intercession and during summer do you mean to tutor in classes or uh yeah if you get some you know some of the some of those students at the higher high school levels that are excelling come in and help some of the elementary kids or help some of the Junior High kids instead of using certified teachers for that I I don't know if we've ever thought of that um this is my first year so um I've just kind of built on what was already in place but certainly it's something we can take into consideration I think what what we've considered in the past is if like NHS wants to come in and help out sometimes they have to log in C hours that's one thing but you also need a certified teacher there for supervision purposes primarily uh they're still under our watch and so um plus if there's grade enhancement we want a certified teacher in there making sure especially at the high school level to be a part of that so and I I think um we're dealing with students who need extra instruction and they need really competent teachers who know how to give them what they need a a tutoring maybe a tutor to help and come in is fine but we need people who are professionals to give that really good instruction that helps them since they haven't caught it on the first go round as much maybe to bring up their understanding so they go forward with a solid platform for Learning and that's what we're seeing obviously we've seen a lot of students come at last you know the end of semester and maintain that grade which is really the goal so they don't have to retake it in the summer or whatever that looks like for their family um we've also had a lot of really good feedback from teachers they're excited to teach in smaller classrooms um with fewer kids so that they can really spend that individualized attention and time with those students thank you uh my second question have you ever considered opening this up to the the broader Community to include kids that are homeschooled as an in an effort to to expose them to the public school and perhaps attract some of those parents and students into the public school you you know little one week preview how well they could do at a public school I'm not sure you guys I know at the we have not done that at the elementary tuition summer school we routin routinely each year in the summer school program get students that are homeschooled as well as charter school students I know last year I'd say 10% of our elementary summer school program which is a fee based are from non-gps students this though we've targeted towards helping our current GPS students because we're using the data and really helping at the elementary level um that bottom cortile of students that are struggling and with with respect to all these programs they're run out of federal funds and typically we can't invite students that are not our own students into those programs thank you sure anything else I had a couple questions sure is there anybody else um just piggybacking off the budget questions from Mrs Humphrey and Mr Thompson and maybe Bonnie do we have people that are on the lookout for more grants cuz you T you are okay that would be me so I know you mentioned that we got one from the governor's office so we're digging deep all the time looking for Grants I've been looking at the governor's office um and looking at the state to see if there are any special grants that are coming out um the only thing that we've been able to latch on to currently is the Arts consumable Grant which is the one that I applied for um and we received but to date I have not found anything else um that could help us with these programs but I am still looking even at the federal level yeah I at the federal level all thank you for doing that no it's my pleasure no stone and turn right when we need financing Miss paig real quick also sorry I apologize um she won't say it but Cheryl is constantly looking she's pretty modest so you'll get text messages late and I hey I think I found something I mean she is constantly going and to her credit the Arts consumable Grant and I mean hundreds of thousands of dollars are coming our way 97,000 because of of what she found out there also then she's working with folks within her Department um on attending trainings to be able to identify support right for Grants um there's sometimes language followup detail that you need with with them and so she's not only herself but strengthening the entire team and so we're excited about the future holds that way I just took my program specialist to um a conference in New Orleans for federal program directors um and other Federal type programs um where we got a lot of legal mumbo jumbo for for those of us in the federal World um it was it was great learning and she she got an opportunity to learn a lot about it we came back and she started taking some grant writing classes um and my staff really is all about learning and and continuing their growth so we're all working really hard to figure out how to pay for all these things for students well thank you I appreciate that and I know grant writing is an art for it's painful it's it's really painful one last question um are there students that you've identified that you might not be able to invite or are we leaving kiddos behind I think that as we've identified so we have two constraints we have um the constraint of seats available and um whether or not parents want to send kids so we look at the bottom 25% of students where they're doing how they're doing and where they're sort of lacking in skills and then we send out invites to um we send a list out to each of the schools and they send out invites cuz it's better coming from their their own teachers and their own campus um and a lot of times we get those kids um and a lot of times parents are just on vacation and they don't want to send their kids or the kid doesn't want to go or something like that um we had a couple of those situations this last um go rounded intercession but for the summer we we get a lot of the kids that we identify thank you so much for all of you I I wanted to I Just Want to Thank You for um helping us better understand all of the work that you've put in and all that you're doing for the students I think that's amazing that we are able to catch those students if the first quarters gone by and they're not really grasping the concepts they have a a second opportunity in a smaller class size to learn that material and I think that is going to be huge it's one of those things where it's continuous Improvement and over time is going to make a big difference a very personal story about that my daughter speak at the mic so we can hear you and the people at home can hear you very personal story so my daughter was failing algebra and took part in the great enhancement um program prog and wound up doing very well in years um as she moved forward in high school so for us as a family it was a huge huge blessing so good thank you thank you and I want to just just want to say thank you to these five administrators but there are a plethora of other administrators that have run these programs over the last three years you can imagine that a lot of our dean of students and assistant principles they're busy running their schools during the school year but during our inter sessions In Summer Schools they're also providing the support for our programs to continue to excel as well as the teachers too um granted they're all getting paid a little extra but we know how hard teachers and our administrators work and they've stepped up to the plate and really helped um our students that need extra support K12 Mrs W yes I just wanted to also say I appreciate that we are taking the opportunity to offer this to our students and I really appreciate that we're evaluating and Reporting on the data of Are We being successful in what we're doing because we just we want to get better at it so I'm glad that we're looking at it and saying how can we better reach the students how can we better accommodate them how can we better what Focus can we be and I could see that it looked like you have adjusted and Chang as the years go and I think that's really exciting for our students for our staff so I appreciate it thank you very much I will move to uh consent agenda item consent agenda items do I hear a motion for approval of the consent agenda I move that we approve the consent agenda items as as listed thank you Mrs wood is there a second second thank you Mrs Paige so it's been moved and seconded that we approve the consent agenda item as presented all those in favor please signify by saying I I I opposed so on a 5 Z vote um we'll now move to 9 01 action item appointment of Shawn Lynch as the principal of mosqu high school for the 2425 school year do I hear a motion I move to approve um Sean Lynch Lynch as the principal of mosquit high school effective tomorrow January 31st 2024 through the 20242 school year thank you Mrs hre a second second thank you Mrs Paige it's been moved and seconded that we approve the appointment of Sean Lynch as the principal of mosqu high school for the 24 25 school year and I will wait until after the vote for a discussion so all those in favor please signify by saying I I I so on a 5- z vote Mr Lynch would you like to say some words or any of the board members that want to say anything too at this point uh the governing board and superintendency I'd first like to say thanks for having faith in me uh mosqu a good place uh there's there's good people there there's good administrators there's there there's good teachers there's good support staff and good students and uh um we'll keep working hard and and do the best we can so thank you board members anybody like to add you might get question again thanks for sticking around for so long can can we take a a a little short break to congratulate him sure yeah I just wanted to say one thing I didn't get a chance earlier to to say but I had the opportunity to go meet with you in October for about an hour and I just could not be more impressed from that meeting and am so excited that we have you back I remember asking you at the end of that meeting how can we take interim off the beginning of the principal and you looked at me and you're like I don't know probably not so when this came up I couldn't have been more thrilled so thank you so much for coming back and serving those great kids and the students over at Ms high school so we're very grateful thank you okay we'll come back in five minutes okay h [Music] but it was so weird cuz it went to that my what happened to [Music] [Laughter] them what happen no I was that's the presentation it didn't matter but then I'm like nothing nothing nothing oh wow they that when they call all of youright [Music] [Laughter] is no I looked at all of them you said that and I page [Music] okay we're all back and we're very happy to have Mr Lynch continue his um Journey as the mosqu high school principal we'll move on to 9.02 FY 2023 annual comprehensive financial report and this one we do have a roll call vote Mrs Wilson so do I hear a motion to approve the I move that we approve the 2023 annual comprehensive financial report thank you Mrs humre um second I'll second second thank you so it's been moved and seconded is there I don't believe we have any discussion but if anybody has anything they want to say because we've already gone through it otherwise we'll take the roll call vote which is something that is required by the state so Mrs Wilson Mr Chad Thompson here oh you have to say name it's I IR name say we're glad you're here but we need to know if you're if you're going to vote Yes or yes or no okay I thank you Miss Ronda page I Miss Lori wood I miss Jill humph I miss Sheila ug jetti I I by votes passes thank you Mrs Wilson we'll move on to 9.03 fiscal year 2023 single audit reporting package and this once again we have a roll call vote required so do I hear a motion I move that we approve FY 2023 single audit reporting package thank you Mrs wood second second thank you Mrs paig it's moving seconded I believe we've also discussed all of that if anybody M jetti yes just I just wanted to point out that what's posted is still in draft form okay so um I just wanted to make sure that it's still appropriate for you to accept by roll call vote and if there is anything other than typographical errors we will bring the report back all right thank you Mrs bets okay so it's been moved and seconded that we approve it in draft form and it will any any corrections will be made and brought back to us um Mrs Wilson Mr Jetty I here miss humph I miss Lori wood I miss Ronda pagee I Mr Chad Thompson still here and I Madame President all board members voted with I thank you Mrs Wilson so on a vote of 5-0 it's been approv appr D 9.04 policy development first read of policy EBC emergencies um do I hear a motion so moved thank you Mrs humph a second second thank you Mr Thompson Dr McCord thank you madam president govern many board members before you we bring uh policy EBC emergencies uh this has this and the other policies on the docket this evening have went through the first read with our policy committee and uh if it's approved or any changes we'll go back for the second uh time around with the policy committee and come back for the second read the addition to this portion of the policy reads as follows emergency response plans developed by the governing board are required to address how the school and emergency responders will communicate with and provide assistance to students with disabilities and again uh everything that we'll have tonight is as a result of what went through the legislature and approved this past summer thank you any discussion hearing none I'll call for the vote for the first read of policy EBC emergencies all those in favor please signify by saying I I I opposed so a 5- z vote and it will go back to the policy committee for the second read 9.05 policy development first read of policy JK student discipline do I hear a motion so moved thank you second second okay thank you very much uh so it's been moved and seconded um Dr mcord thank you madam president governing board members this policy uh JK uh there's an addition to it this relates to student discipline and it states a school district is exempt from having to meet the prescribed criteria for the suspension of a student in kindergarten or the first through fourth grades if either a expulsion is required pursu of a ars1 15- 841 G due to a student's possession of a firearm at school or B the suspension does not exceed 2 days and the aggregate suspensions for the P do not exceed 10 days within a school year this uh language uh will appear in the next policy as well thank you any discussion hearing none I'll take a vote on first read of policy JK student discipline all those in favor please signify by saying I I I opposed so on a 5- z vote and then we'll move to 9.06 policy development first read of policy JKD student suspension expulsion due process rights do I hear a motion so moved thank you Mrs Paige a second second thank you Mrs Humphrey move seconded Dr McCord again the same exact language from the previous policy it's just in two different policies uh within our policy manual thank you any discussion hearing none I'll take a vote for the first read of policy JKD all those in favor please signify by saying I I opposed so on a 5 Z vote and we'll move to 9.07 policy development first read of policy jlh missing students do I hear a motion so moved thank you Mrs Paige second second thank you Mrs humph uh Dr McCord thank you madam president govering board members in this policy missing students uh in the last paragraph of the first page it says currently within five days after enrolling a transfer student from a public school or from a private school the school request directly from the previous School a certified copy of the student's record that has been legislatively changed from 5 days to 10 days and is reflected in this policy thank you any discussion hearing none I'll call for a vote on the First Street of policy jlh all those in favor please signify by saying I I I opposed so on a 5- Zer vote and they will be all taken to the next committee meeting I'm sure um requests for future agenda items if you have any requests for that please see do McCord or myself anything anybody okay thank you board committee reports I will start with insurance trust I do not have anything to report tonight uh Mrs Betts covered some of the important parts in the the report that she did earlier um legislative representative Mr Thompson nothing tonight thank you thank you city of M Mesa leaz on Mrs wood just that we are going to work with councilman summers in preparing for the school connect coming up with the East Mesa schools in late February so I'm looking forward to that okay thank you um town of Gilbert Lee is on an audit committee Mrs humph well we just went over the audit tonight so that is all good for the time being and then uh for the town of Gilbert there was a public hearing there will be an increase in our utility bills um I hope people will go and look at the website CU they get did an excellent job of explaining why that increase is warranted and there's also a um a meeting um at the library on W on Thursday February 29th on learning to conserve water so in conjunction with um looking forward to an increase in our utility bills um you can go to that water conservation class so thank you Mrs humre and then Gilbert Education Foundation Mrs Paige nothing to report tonight thank you thankk you Dr mcord meeting dates thank you upcoming meeting dates February 6th board work study brief board business meeting February 13th is a board policy committee meeting and February 27th is our board business meeting thank you Dr McCord do I Heir a motion to adjourn so moved thank you Mrs Humphrey second second thank you Mrs Paige it's been moved and second it that we adjourn all those in favor please signify by saying i i i i and there's no oppose so we are adjourned thank you very much for everybody that's here or
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2024-02-01 Honolulu County, HI YouTube / Hawai'i State Senate transcript source: youtube EDU Public Hearing 1-31-2024 · passage 1
[Music] thank you and Welcome to our senate committee on education today is Wednesday January 31 it is 3:00 p.m. and we are in room hearing room 229 this meeting including the audio and video of remote participants is being streamed live on YouTube you will find links to reviewing options for all Senate meetings on the live and On Demand video page of the legislator's website this Zoom meeting and YouTube live stream will include the 3:00 agenda for this committee on education in the unlikely event that we must abruptly end this hearing due to Major technical difficulties the committee will reconvene to discuss any outstanding business on Wednesday Wednesday or or Wednesday February 2nd Friday sorry okay I was wondering you have Wednesday and Friday on Friday February 2nd 2024 at 3:01 p.m.
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2024-02-01 Sedgwick County, KS YouTube / USD264 YouTube transcript source: youtube Clearwater Clarity: Volume 6, February 2024 · passage 1
hey welcome stakeholder staff uh community members and parents of USD 264 to our clear waterer Clarity volume 6 update for February of 2024 I just hope everyone had a a great start to the uh New Year in 2024 excited to already have the first semester done and be rocking and rolling through the second semester and hope everybody enjoyed those snow days uh we had there in January so our strategic plan really drives a little everything that we do at USD 264 making sure that we are um Meeting those goals so as we look at our strategic plan we always want to focus on why are we doing this uh what are we going to do and how are we going to achieve it so if we can answer those three questions with everything that we're uh doing within our strategic plan we're going to make sure that we're going to be successful today we're going to really focus on special ed funding that's kind of a Hot Topic that's in the legislature right now is also something that's very important for us at USD 264 what I want to be able to do is just give you straight information and straight facts um information that comes directly from our budget and from our Ledger in terms of how much money we get from the state for special ed funding that is then uh sent to our specialed Co-op and gard and how much is the actual cost that we have to pay for the entire year uh for special ed services so this really impacts our strategic plan goal number two implementing student centered whole child programming because we want to ensure that all students uh whether they have a disability or not uh whether they want to be F uh functioning in uh uh CTE class classes whether they want to be part of extracurriculars that we're able to provide that support for all of our students and part of that is understanding the impact I want to make sure very clearly that we do not limit or not provide uh services for our special ed uh students at USD 264 all students that have an IEP receive the services within that IEP those Services cost money and this is the breakdown that we have uh for fiscal year 2023 which would have have been last year we're currently in fiscal year 24 so state aid that's how much money came to USD 264 from the state of Kansas was $1,335 n28 upon receiving that money we directly give that to the Gard Co-op um that helps them build the services or build their Foundation of their budgets to be able to provide the services during the fiscal year they keep letting us know how much more money they need from us to make sure that their budget balance meaning all of the expenses are covered during that time so for fiscal year 2023 the total cost of money that we had to pay towards um the Gard Co-op was $2,365 1849 so that was a general fund excess cost meaning out of our general fund that we get to fund General instruction here at USD 264 was 1, 29,9 121 what we ended up doing is that because the state is not funding special ed uh at the 92% of those excess costs it cost our general fund $840,000 in fiscal year 23 $840,000 is approximately about 10% of our general fund uh budget so 10% we start the year operating with 10% less of our budget due to the lack of full funding that comes from the Kansas legislature based on their statute if we were to look at if it was funded at 92% like it would our cost would be $189,600 not over 1 million so what happened is that there's $840,000 that should should still be in our general fund budget that isn't because it's going to serve a special ed so I want to be very careful in making sure we understand that we are fully funding special ed but it's coming at the local taxpayer responsibility versus coming from the state legislature so the locals stakeholders community members taxpayers of USD 264 through our general fund property taxes and uh other recreational vehicle taxes and and um vehicle taxes are paying for the difference in special ed funding that is needed that is not being covered by the state statute um for the state of Kansas so if we were to be able to understand this a little bit deeper is that there is actually a state statute that was written that requires that 92% of those excess cost um be covered by spe by the funding from the state department uh and that is not happening it is not an arbitrary number uh that someone just says we should be doing is they actually put it into state law um back in 2017 somewhere in that neighborhood also part of it that you'll hear from some legislators is that the federal government um is not supplying enough funds to say that they are um wanting to fund around 40% um but they do not have it as a law so the federal government does not have a law to fund it at 40% that is their goal so there's a little bit of difference of where the legislature put theirs in as a law and so we are short that that money what are excess costs so some of those where you have students not only receiving general education services which all students get general education services some of those excess costs comes from things such as speech or physical therapy or occupational therapy um those are specialized services to help those students with their needs and those come at an extra cost to a district or to a Cooperative when you have to hire those staff uh to meet those needs also we are not reimbursed first on a per student basis like the general fund is uh or the money that we get regularly in our budget the funding comes at the end of the year and it goes on a per teacher basis so we get re reimbursed from the state at around $30,000 for each full-time teacher that the Gard Co-op has employed it takes more than $30,000 um to pay a teacher an average teacher at a base salary with insurance benefits and all other tax taxes applicable comes to around $70,000 so the state is not meeting about half of the cost of a of a teacher when it does the reimbursement so what does that do for us how does that short Change USD 264 well in the PDF that will also be sent out uh in accordance with this video I lay out three specific things that we could be doing with General more general fund dollars the number one thing we could do is we could expand our CTE programming uh we were able to add FFA and a education uh this year through a hiring of another staff member if we had more funding we could expand our CTE programs we could have more um opportunities to hire more staff that would be able to fund those programs we'd also be able to give all staff raises with that money um so we know that part of recruiting and retaining highly qualified staff is having a good uh livable wage whether you are a certified teacher or a classified building Aid uh custodian uh bus driver could or server and so we know that that money could go towards adding more money to teacher salaries and then finally I think it's something that we all know is um we have an uptick in mental health issues within our district and within the state of Kansas uh as a whole and we would be able to potentially hire um or contract with being able to have mental health resources available in our um day for our students and even potentially for our staff uh to help them with having some Clinical Psychology Services uh with us so those are three things we could do with that $840,000 that we're having to spend that number is only going to go up uh because the cost of uh inflation is causing expenses to go up for the operations within the co-op in terms of Transportation uh operating Vehicles hiring teachers um hiring paers those expenses are always going up so we're not going to dip below 840 840,000 of our um required excess spending that we're going to to do from our general fund unless the state starts uh securing that funding so at the end of the day what can stakeholders and staff and community members do about this is well it's following up with our theme we can be the one and that be the one is reach out to your local representative your local Senator and let them know what Clearwater USD 264 is not able to do for all students because of the funding that has to go to make sure that we're prepare PR providing for all of our special uh education uh needs and all of our special education students so again I want to thank you for the opportunity and listening to this video again anytime you need to reach out or contact me here's my contact information I look forward to next month and being able to kind of start thinking about what next year looks like and some of the great things we're going to do to share some data around some of the success with our strategic plan this year so again be the one and every day is a good day to be an Indian thank you and have a great day
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2024-02-01 Somerset County, NJ YouTube / Board Meeting transcript source: youtube Board Meeting 1-31-24 · passage 1
voices in a couple seconds you are live Mr President I'm just gonna wait to check the audio oh where that's that we could hear me all right and you all right good evening everybody and welcome to our Board of Education meeting happy to see so many of our students here for their recognition to get on to that item before we do we're going to open the meeting with a call of the open public meeting statement uh which reads the New Jersey open public meetings law is enacted to ensure the right of the public to H notice of and to attend the meetings of public bodies at which time any business affecting their interest is discussed and acted in accordance with the provisions of this act and Board of Education policy 0162 the Board of Education of The Bu of Bound Brook has posted notice of this meeting been posted Board office and the bound high school and mailor fact to The Courier News bound south bound Board of Education and any person who requested [Music] individ yes sir Mr Bell here Mr Dawson here here M Caron Mr Zill here M musen here Mr minhas Miss H here Mr bulmer here Mr janzi here and Miss l president you have a quum present this evening thank you very much we are going to right over the president's comments and get into our superintendent report I apologize I must have an old copy of the agenda we're up to item number 1.4 then we're swearing in our new board member our representative from South Mr yes sir Miss Carlton would you please join me at the pod this is the required oath for for school board members to njsa 18a 12- 2.1 and njsa 41 1-1-3 I Jennifer Carlton do solemnly swear or affirm do solemnly swear or affirm that I will support the Constitution of the United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Saint and to the governments established in the United States and to the governments established in the United States and the state and this state under the authority of the people under the authority of the people so help me God so help me God I Jennifer Carlson you solemnly swear or affirm do you solemly swear that I possess the qualifications prescribed by law the qualifications prescribed by law for the office of member of a board of education for the office of member of a board of education and then I am not disqualified as a and that I am not disqualified as a voter pursuant to rs1 4-1 sorry uh pursuant to rs1 194 d one one sorry nor disqualified due to conviction of a crime nor disqualified due to conviction of a crime or offense or offense listed in njs 18a 12-1 listed in njs 18a 12-1 and then I will faithfully and that I will faithfully and partially and partially and justly and justly perform all the duties of that office perform all the duties of that office according to the best of my ability so help me God according to the best of my ability so help me God congratulations thank [Applause] you thank you very much thank you thank you m thank you Mr Gori and thank you Jennifer for um offering to serve we're excited to have you on the team all right Dr Freeman up to you for superintendent okay good evening everybody and welcome to our January 31st board meeting it is so good to see everyone out in the audience at this time we're going to do one of our favorites we're going to call out the students of the month if we could have Dr s come on up front and recognize our students from Lamont and lont an [Applause] schools congratulations to Steven Delo currently kindergarten student in Mrs Hon's class um his favorite school subject is math his favorite hobbies are Legos playing hockey going to karate class um his career plans he wants to become a ninja reason Stephen was selected Stephen is such a sweet and smart student he loves to learn and he always willing to help others Stephen has really pushed himself out of his comfort zone this year and is taken on challenges Like a Rockstar congratulations [Applause] Steven [Music] Sten [Laughter] [Applause] congratulations to Via Rosa heras currently in preschool and Mrs chaparro's class favorite school subject is learning letters favorite hobby is playing with toys and her baby brother career plans is police officer like her dad um Mrs Chow picked fetta to be student of a mon she's always quick to offer help um to her friends in the classroom she's also a great friend to everyone in the class and always has a smile to give congratulations [Applause] Veta okay schol have Miss G our first student of the month is Mason diara come [Applause] onuse he's always dressed the N Mason is in first grade he's in Mrs P class he has a little sister he loves math and art his favorite hobbies are taekwan do running arts and crafts and playing with his dog named Chase he wants to drive an ice cream truck or work at shop bre congratulations congratulations and our next student of the month is salame cha Martinez she's from Miss Pago's class grade she has a sister her favorite school subject is math and phonics she likes to draw and watch TV and she wants to be a famous YouTuber and a professional ice [Applause] skater moving so this we're going to miss her so much so she's such a big help so we're going to miss you so much D who's your favorite YouTuber who's your favorite Mr Beast congratulations again next up from small school we have Miss Carone [Applause] okay our first student of the month is Juan B from Miss Perez's [Applause] class dress smile I'm so proud of you Juan is in third grade in Miss Perez's class Juan has a sibling he says my amazing sister she is 23 years old and my nephew Julian goes to small Le with me and is 12 years old his favorite school subject is math math and he says I love being able to count and multiply numbers his favorite hobbies he says I love playing board games with my family his career plan say I want to be a veterinarian to help out all of the animals per our second student of the month is Penelope from Miss poker's class [Applause] Penelope okay Penelope is in fourth grade in Miss coker's class um she has a sibling named Payton who's six years old her favorite subject in school is reading what are you reading right now oh I love that book and your favorite hobby her favorite hobbies are drawing and she loves drawing so much that when she grows up she wants to be an an artist I'm so proud of okay let's go take a picture let another [Applause] round next I'm going to call down Salomon from m Fernandez's class Solomon come on down congratulations okay Solomon is in fifth grade in Miss Fernandez's class for sibling she says I have one brother and he is older her favorite subject in school is math and her favorite hobby is do to roller skate good okay when she gets older she says I dream of becoming a teacher when I grow [Applause] up conratulations [Applause] and our last student of the month I'm going to call down Milani from Mr Osborne's class come [Applause] on okay um Milani is in sixth grade in Mr Osborne's class and they got to go to the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia today Milani says I have two siblings one brother and one sister both are older than me her favorite school subject is social studies and she says I love to play basketball and soccer when she gets older she's gonna be very very busy because she's going to be a veterinarian and a baker congratulations [Applause] Alani cookies congratulations and next up for Community Middle School we have Dr s [Applause] Ser Hello everybody welcome welcome so our first uh student of the month the Community Middle School is proud to recognize Mark Palos Mark was nominated by his science teacher Miss catus Mark has two siblings and his favorite subjects are language arts math science and social studies that is a lot of favorites favorite hobby hobby is playing soccer and number one dream is to become a professional soccer player outside of that we're going to figure it out with the job but that's not specified at this time all right Mark come on up on up Mark [Applause] our next student of the month is Joseph Aila Cordo Joseph is an eighth grade student at the community middle school and has been nominated by his science teacher Miss Esposito Joseph has four siblings and favorite subject is math especially likes to listen to and memorize formulas close to my heart I'm a former math teacher so I enjoy that uh favorite hobbies are Taekwondo drawing and video games and when he grows up and I really love this part wants to be a software engineer and take after his sister who is obviously very big role model in his life and he enjoys the information that he shares and I know you'll reach that dream come on up Joseph conratulations [Applause] next up from our High School Mr Smith [Applause] all right unfortunately our first recipient um cannot be with us this evening but I'll read his little bio description anyway so we have William Sawyer son of Christina and William uh William is an only child uh William actually interns here with our technology department and does a tremendous job uh so I mean this is a good segue into his favorite school subject which is computer science uh his favorite hobbies are playing I guess I think it's an online gaming site called magic magic the Gathering and his future career plans are to uh to study computer science and cyber security [Applause] congratulations all right next we have Nicole Rivera Nicole okay Nicole daughter of yenia kalas uh Nicole has two siblings uh Kenya and J uh Jean Carlos um Nicole's favorite subject in school is right now is English um favorite hobbies definitely include playing sports especially volleyball and spending time with her mom she hopes to attend a four-year college or university to study Ultra to become an ultrasound technician so congratulations [Applause] Nicole [Music] thank [Applause] you all right next we have a female Sawyer Caitlyn Sawyer Caitlyn here Kaitlyn um daughter of Dave and Francia uh Caitlyn has zero siblings and is an only child correct yes um favorite subject in school is geometry uh Caitlyn enjoys doing homework and watching movies and her future career plans is to become a real estate agent in the future so [Applause] congratulations [Applause] last but not least Darren Allen Linton Niles Darren all right Darren H son of Justin and Dian um Darren has three siblings Jaylen Jenna and Janine uh Darren enjoys his favorite subject in school entrepreneurship Spanish and music he enjoys playing basketball and Building Things which is a good segue into his future career plans which is to become an electrician or a carender [Applause] congratulations thank you one last round of applause for all of our students of and of course for our par without you would be they are today so appreciate you as well okay next up we have our employees of the month I would like to call Dr Essa along with Miss Fisher to receive her award this month's G recipients are dedicated and compassionate school nurse nurse Christina nurse Christina has not only fulfilled the responsibility of a school nurse but has gone above and beyond in providing care support and compassion to our students nurse Christina offers a listening air a Caring Heart a reassuring smile to students who may be feeling unwell her nurturing approach is easy eases the worries of parents and Guardians knowing their children are incapable and caring hands nurse Christina also actively promotes health education and wellness within our school She's organized workshops and events that have empowered her students with knowledge about Healthy Lifestyles and the importance of preventative care her efforts have not only benefited our students but also Foster a healthier School environment in recognition of your outstanding contributions to our school and your dedication to the health and wellbeing of our students we present you with the gem award congratulations nurse Christina thank you for being the heart and soul of our school's health and wellness we are truly fortunate to have you as part of our school family thank you [Applause] good job congratulations we have M and Dr s will [Applause] present the Community Middle School is proud to recognize henness picado as the January 2024 employee of the month for the Bound Brook School District Miss picado is a graduate of Bound Brook High School a graduate of Montclair University and is in the process of enrolling in the Master's progr program for social work at Monclair Miss picato Ser is serving as a teacher associate this year at CMS and is tasked with assisting families facilitating instruction and facilitating instruction for our multilingual Learners in math science and social studies as a fluent Spanish speaker Miss picato is able to bridge the language Gap that ensures students will have full understanding of classroom material Miss picato helps students understand lessons and activ activities clarifies and responds to students questions and helps modify classwork in order to provide appropriate and necessary accommodations the impact our teacher Associates and specifically Miss picato have had in the classroom is immeasurable Miss picado has helped break down barriers to learning that in the past have been a point of struggle for both student and teacher from the perspective of a child who is trying to learn but does not yet speak the language of their teacher school can be a frustrating place with Miss pato's help and guidance students are now more engaged eager to learn and ask questions and have grown in confidence both academically and socially in addition to our classroom responsibilities Miss picato has assisted in multiple mediations with students and conversations with families oftentimes these conversations involve difficult and emotional topics Miss picato participates in these discuss discussions with a level of poise and professionalism that makes it seem as though she's been doing this for many years students and parents alike respond to her kind and compassionate approach and understand that regardless of the topic or circumstance Miss picato has the best interests of children in mind as one of Miss pato's former teachers and on behalf of a grateful and appreciative staff at the Community Middle School I would like to say thank you for your dedication and for making such a remarkable and positive impact on the lives of our [Applause] students one last round of [Applause] applause okay at this time we have one more group of people that I would like to uh recognize now these people aren't in the audience they're actually up here on the stage in honor of School Board of Education recognition month I'd like to take a moment to thank our outstanding board of education for all their hard work and dedication to our students teachers parents and administration working with you over the past year and a half it's been an absolute honor your commitment to working collaboratively to ensure that we as a district provide our students and families with the best education experience possible is such a blessing to our School Community we want you to know just how appreciated you are although there is no amount of compensation that we could give for the valuable service that you provide to our school Community we have left a small token of appreciation next to your name tax when you get a minute to rest again thank you for your service we appreciate you and look forward to working with you going forward let's have a round of applause for [Applause] our at this time why don't we have everybody come down to the front of the room we can take a picture with all the students Andes stage everybody come take yeah m is great watch video of course you watch the puppy video and right there there stairs we'll stand the right in front right you can make a front row in front of us conratulations we're making a back don't thank you sir all right [Music] cheese all [Music] right I just that's your job that's [Music] true District [Music] good it and you unmuted all right guys back in session and at this point we are up to our committee meeting reports we will start with education thank you Mr President uh education committee met earlier this month our discussion this month Focus mostly around the high school program of studies and work that's being done uh Ming to make sure that the course of studies um can be clearly understood by all the state stakeholders in the district and helping our students understand uh the pathways and opportunities that are afforded to them by programming in the district whether they are CP student honors student and AP student and trying to make sure that the programming we offer is understood by all of our students and that their course requests are made in the most informed possible way looking at possibly design future programming around the needs we can identify based on conversations with those students we are pleased to hear that there's a renewed effort to make sure students fully understand our options and how the district can serve them and also how uh we can take a look at how we can respond to the needs of the students in the future and make sure everyone is served in the best possible way it's really exciting work um to make sure that our students and our families and our St are really aware of all the great options that are available to our students in a clear concise way that really showcases all the work that we have uh to offer and how we can support our staff and our administrators and creating the most optimal situation that will let kids graduate college and career ready and do so in a way that everyone understands that is on the same P thank you Mr Pres thank you Mr Dawson any comments or questions for Education all right hearing none we will go over to Mr B for governance okay I have a quite a few small items uh the first thing we discussed was our on boarding procedure for new members which we've talked about before um but this time because we do have a new South Bound Brook board member we would like to make sure that she has everything that she needs as she joins the board so I had attended one of the um sessions I had attended down Atlantic City at the conference was um all kind of gave you a list of all of the things that she a new member should have so I forwarded that list over to Dr Freeman and he was pretty confident that she has uh has been or will be given everything that she needs but if there's anything you need that isn't on that list please don't hesitate to let us know hopefully you got all the emails and everything that you need to contact someone to get that information but going forward we plan to have that ready for all new members hopefully all of us stay you know forever but if we ever board members um you know we have to be ready for that secondly uh we just asked for an update on the strategic planning meetings uh these numbers are probably a bit out of date at this point but as of last Monday we had 23 replies from the link that is not including board members administrators um we had also reached out personally to the um Council where they're they're going to send two members uh the police department will be sending our SRO um so uh we have been reaching out to as many people as we can uh I've reached out to a few people since then so we will see what numbers we get but as of last week we were expecting expecting about 40 could be more than that by now um Dr Freeman has already posted the agenda for the first meeting in board dos if you didn't see it is there now let's see what else okay committee assignments you know this because it was sent out this afternoon um the only change that I was aware of is that Sue wanted to be added to education if there was anybody else who wanted to change or an addition I think we already asked that question but if you want to change at this point let us know before we get going really for the new year and hopefully we can accommodate that change for you but I think we're set at this point um the next one Lisa this is mostly for you actually um we talked about the atoc Committees that we had added yours being the only one at this point and whether or not we want to continue them and we figured Mr uh Januzzi thinks but we wanted to confirm with you that you've kind of reached the goals that you had set at the beginning of the committee meetings but we wanted to talk to you and see what you want to do as far as continuing with that committee and that's not something you have to answer this moment of course but how do we want to move forward with the Athletics and extracurricular committee is our question to you as the chairperson okay so let us know if that's something you want to do every month if it's something you want to do as needed or something you think can end at this time it's really you know more of a group decision than than me and Mr Januzzi sitting in a committee and talking that you you can just be on that decision as well okay thank you okay and the last thing that we discussed briefly was Mr zuo's favorite Topic at Council so um without boring you with all the details Dr Freeman put forth a really good plan of what Ed council could look like um that's something that we have to probably discuss with the Bea as well so there's no need to really discuss it here yet until we talk to them but he does have an idea of how we can make things run a little bit more smoothly so we're hoping that maybe if everybody agrees we can bring that back in some form or fashion as you know it is in the contract so it's something we should probably look into and that is the end of my report thank you Mr B any comments or questions on [Music] governance it be something that I would like to discuss with Dr Freeman privately problem because story and it's just it's interesting so we'll talk about sounds thank you Mr Z any other comments or questions right thank you Mr we are moving on to Human Resources so one of the other committee assignment changes that we had soon be stepping forward and serving as chair of our H committe this year so thank you soon for that and with that I will let you take it away with your report okay Community um we had a few things going on with HR and one and you'll see on the agenda that there a number of new hires that really just so happy to see director it school psychologist lbtc span High School Etc um and along with hes you also have some resignations here and there um it's all in this week in this month's um agenda we also discussed in the meeting it's called muru health and this is uh an online program it was launched out and it really is a counseling program and it has been received very well by the uh by staff and it's open to employees to their spouses and children um just a wide range again it's gotten a very favorable review so far and HR continues to just reach out to them any questions and F is going to be s have periodically to staff so that they don't have a million things all at once but they have some readings that are perent and again any questions that they have go right through through HR they have a six we and an eight we program so it's pretty comprehensive we're also one of the things with HR that is uh continual really is just looking at the responsibilties job you just Dr ions Etc and it was looking at prior to having candidates come in just to look at to make sure that all certifications are there so that when they do come for interviews it's very clear and very everybody's just ready for um for interviews contracts uh all go through HR and also and should beers from staff they go right through HR and all those processes are being streamlined just so that it's easier to understand uh really to get through also in there's a creation of um the data secretary and just again looking at the qualifications because from the GetGo really to have um a strong description of what is needed to make the district really move forward so there were a couple things that we discussed just um language fluencies um just expertise and writing reports and being you know very analytical with the data but not only being analytical but being able to share that data so that it's very easily understood by all and I think that's it very enjoy we do have we are still going ongoing with um negotiations with the association and we're going to be having a meeting in a week or so and now that's it all right thanks very much to any questions from the members on the all right thanks very much Su we will shift over to Roger for so this is going to be a shared sort of presentation because I was not there so I'm going to go off some excellent notes that Sue have taken I'm also going to then uh do my normal bunding it m so about the first thing was Insurance pre updates and Mr Cory please uh before I get into the budget or you get into the budget you can you know add add your two cents the insur insurance premium updates uh in relation to flood insurance was already budgeted talking about two categories do you want to further get into that yes sir we have um two categories as you mentioned Property and Casualty Insurance which includes flood and also health insurance and some of the preliminary information that we've received from the carriers as far as premium projections for next year are somewhat unfavorable the Property and Casualty um projections are increasing anywhere from five to 20% depending on the policy and that's because of increase in property values um bus prices that gone up the used prices and the replacement value goes up and um some of the claims experience in the district uh with property damage has also contributed to some of the property increases workers comp is one of the lower ones to go up because our facility director does a great job of maintaining safety and and um for our staff and the schools and one of the more troubling ones is the most material of the premiums which is health insurance um last year you may recall we had a 0% increase that was because of a year of advantageous claims and very aggressive negotiating with carriers and giving competitive quotes this year our claims experience has uh really fallen off the cliff and has been one of the worst claims years in about seven um the reason for that are specific catastrophic claims and and even though they are they are covered by a catastrophic claims insurance policy separate it's still issued by Horizon so when they renew you're still paying for it somewhat in premiums and where aggressively negotiating that and we have a very good broker who is a great assistant and we're going to go to the marketplace and get competitive quotes carriers on Etna being one of them because they're most similar to Horizon and we're also waiting for other months of claims um information for December so we can complete the whole annual um look at that so we're on top of it it's just that we've facing headwinds for bed claims both in property casualty and healths excellent thank you for your your addition to that um the next section that I was really happy to look at was the bus driver compensation we're looking currently against because it was not at the meeting was 25 an hour and it's looking to go up exp yes if I recall correctly it's going up to $30 an hour EXC um for bus driver rate which is the new Norm U as far as colleagues are are increasing too so to track the best drivers with the best safety records that's a comparable the third section of the operations meeting was budget now this because I was not there you are the budget and I will then let you take the budget U issues so we discuss our updates thank you I may be the guru assembling the budget but Dr Freeman's the one providing the vision and simar to last year this budget is focusing heavily on curriculum and instruction because there have been years of underfunding in the district and there's a lot of pin up demand particularly in special ed bil programs so we are adding new programs we're adding staff and um this is the last year of increases in state aid to bring us to full funding under the revision to the school funding formula called S2 so hopefully when State a is released at the end of the month we'll have an attractive increase like last year which will afford for a lot of programs that the principles and directors have put into the budget uh thus far and I would be remiss if I didn't thank all of the principles and directors for all of their hard work with budgets the input into our budget software program has been uh very comprehensive and to my recollection Dr Freeman and I have not made a single change so far but that is subject to the state a award course thank you Mr I know that um as long as I've been your budgets have been contentious and have had a situation everyone in by nails but I uh I am and I I believe I speak for the board we are very confident in our Administration and thankful thee of time Rel and dealing with the budget doing the best possible situations that you Pres so appreciate that everyone has doing um I do know there was also talk about a school sign update design uh in relation to the small schol so that seemed interesting on that yeah maybe I can take that one for you um so there was storm damage at small school and the larger sign actually damaged so we're in the process buildings and grounds in the process of replacing it in conjunction with that we've been looking at U our branding around the district and trying to standardize wherever possible so we are trying to take the opportunity presented here to create kind of a new standard image for school districts and um something that we can reuse from school to school so uh that's still I believe in the design phases but likely we be done very shortly and hopefully we'll get a nice sign up at small school very soon excellent that sounds phenomenal um there were also discussions in relation to Broad Grant Mr zco if you would humor me I I have a to that with the um resolutions board action because there's a number of resolutions and I want to just simplify we will get back to that and finally fenes at the football field wring very nicely appreciative of that um final topic I have here off school of water we need the third party to come in assist yes Mr zuo we had two referrals today from the architect of record for professional service providers I believe they're engineers and we are soliciting quotes from both of them to come out and just offer a third-party assessment of the problems with the water seepage into the basement that we've experienced so far and if the remedies provided by the contractor um is going to satisfy that long term and give the board an Community value on that investment to that expansion excent I thank you everyone I appreciate it and Mr President that is the meetings for this week thanks very much any comments or questions from the members regarding oblations uh Athletics and co-curricular we now meet this round and the Somerset County Educational Services Commission uh meets in the first week of February so we look forward to that report during our meeting in February so before we wrap up any other comments or questions in general regarding commes uh again a great job um I have the pleasure of do most of the community me got the opportunity governance this time so a plus but um again I'm very appreciative and get done by our Volunteers in these meetings to really issues understand the right way to move forward so just making sure you all know how much I appreciate that at this time we open to the public for agenda items only in accordance with District policy 0167 which governs public participation in board meetings members of the public must sign in at theum or online provide their name addressing affiliation uh public participation is limited to 3 to five minutes imation and no participant may speak more than once on the same topic until all others who wish to speak on that topic have been at this time are there any comments from those seeing none I will ask if there are any online getting ahead not that there are none there are none so we will close it five and move to item 6.1 be it resolved that the bound Board of Education all recommendation of the superintendent approves the minutes of the following meetings this is regular and executive meeting minut of December 20th 2023 as well as item 6.2 which are the minutes of our reorganization meeting for January 3rd 2024 I have a motion thank you Missi second second thank you miss any discussion hearing none Mr gski canoll call yes sir sir and let the record show that Miss Carlton is now officially Seated on the board and she'll be replacing um can't hear my uh my microphone Miss Carlton is now seated at the board after being sworn in and she's going to replace Miss Le Mr pal yes Mr Dawson yes gazino yes Miss Carlton so noted Mr zuo yes Miss M yes Mr minhas yes Miss High yes Mr Palmer yes Mr Januzzi yes motion passes thank you item 7.1 resolve that superintendent recommends for approval the resolutions as outlined in District Personnel resolutions this is item 7.2 through 7.44 and I motion motion thank you Mr second second thank you Mr uh just to kick off the discussion I will for remember that this pieces one of them is noted with an asterisk those are for Middle Elementary items so those are things that would affect and then anything that's not mared that way would apply to the high school and or the district in its enti any comments or questions for seven I just had a real quick one um just that I really like 7.13 and 7.31 just to see the internships that have taking place and the mentoring experiences because that is so important to have somebody just there to model for you to answer questions I'm just always happy when I see that we have volunteers in the district thanks any other comments or questions yes question on 79 710 with the njpa tutoring s Tut is it is this strictly voluntary or is it mandatory kids teachers so the kids um they don't have to come but it's it's an option for them to come but they they will be encouraged to come it's not mandatory how how do we or how far we encouraging those who needed to come is it just so just com out say hey you want to come and get it or we actually proactive saying Tommy this is something you really really benefit from like to see you do actively go to the classrooms for graders I just want to know how we're how we're promoting it so that the kids that really do needed can get it the parents who the the uh students who really need it what happens is the the letters are sent home to the parents the parents are called to of the importance and where they where they are in terms of their progress they're strongly recommended that they attend now we can't make a parent bring them if they don't come but it's strongly recommended it's tied into their progress and the uh benefit of attending is is strongly impressed upon them they have a pretty high success rate both during the year and after school but so uh that's that's how we go about getting into thank you and if I could just maybe ask one more followup question this is in regards to tutoring above and beyond any instruction or support that the general students are receiving during the regular school day because I believe there are some programs embedded within the classroom and the coursework that are supposed to prepare the students to take these tests yeah so this isn't done after after school hours this is an additional like a tutoring session um for students and last year when we did so this is a repeat from last year last year when it was done there was um like a line out the door of kids who wanted to be a part of it so it's a very popular um and effective yeah so test strategy skills environment as well so we're teaching how to manage tests and it's been a very successful piece and we do go to the classrooms and we promote it over and over again what time where to show up where to be um and for the NJ GPA we had actually we had so many people that we had to create two rooms so it's been a very successful event other questions or comments I was going to ask in the in the next section when we approve but this is at no charge to can't hear you can't hear I'm sorry I was gonna ask in in SE in the next section this is at no charge no the only cost is for us to um hire the staff members to work extra hours to do this but the students have no charge we'll talk about range coverance next time you guys on the left key you didn't hear Jo was asking about incremental cost to the participants and Mr no cost to participate only the cost that obviously Ur to staff any other questions or comments hearing none call please Mr B yes Mr Dawson yes M Gino yes M Carlton Mr zco yes mus yes Mr manhas yes Miss H yes Mr gmer yes Mr Januzzi yes motion passes excellent we are up to it 81 have resolve that board of education approves the resolutions as out District education resolutions these are items 8.2 8 have a motion thank you Mr Ben a second second thank you Miss H discussion um I'm very encouraged about all these social events especially with all the cultural diversity and awareness um is really um very enthusiastic to to see that the one comment that I have um maybe it's just something that was glaring for me was um section 8.5 I mentions about a French bakery um I don't know if you guys are aware of this but haris Vette is is actually a South Korean bakery it's a South Korean CH so maybe it's just an fi it's I mean I have no problems with folks wanting to go to a bakery but to be calling in a French bakery I just want to correct well I'm looking at I reading but itation AI forer French teacher to take the star program to Paris again so was the French teacher taking it yes so but it's not it's it's not what I'm saying it doesn't say that's a French if you look at the attachment along we have to that yeah that's all it's when I saw it I'm like wait a minute I know my so um but no um overall with the cultural awareness and the diversity really awesome to see thank you thank you Mr any other comments or questions I have one it's um 8.3 and it really goes along with the you know helping the kids after school this is with the SAT program the T I was just wondering how is that received you know do you get the numbers for that too the program um we had to expand last year we had one classroom something we started last year we had to expanded two standing moment so who knows this time they have three or four but students are really taking advantage and it also it definitely in a short period of time has an impact because we all know that sometimes it's not just knowing your content but it's knowing how to take test which is what an SAT prep class does so it makes a difference to add to that I when I was a kid I took sa an SAT tutoring prep and with test taking advice and everything it really helped me a lot because I'm one of those kids that got real nervous and T taking time especially with like something like this at National level orate so far personal experien and again no charge to the [Music] K any other comments for Section Mr B yes Mr Dawson yeso yes M Carlon so noted Mr subco yes m m yes Mr Minas yes M High yes Mr bmer yes Mr Januzzi yes motion passes thank you item 91 being resolve Board of Education approves the resolutions as outl action resolutions these are items 9.2 motion motion thank you Mr Z second second thank you Mr M I will open the discussion just by thanking the many donors we are graciously donating both funding and resources to the district this is B Police Department sub County Mr Sil the donor choose project Mr and W so just an amazing outpouring from the community um and can't express our gratitude any no no no uh question on 9.14 just a little clarification on that yes sir um on this uh board agenda there under board action there's resolutions 9-14 to 9-22 they all pertain to the board's acceptance and commitment of Rod grants which I'll outline in a second the verbiage in these resolutions comes ex exactly from the New Jersey SDA and they warn you in the guidelines don't deviate even a word or a tense or anything so they're copied and pasted exactly from the SDA and we triple check all of the project numbers for accuracy and again these um Awards do number one they commit the 9.14 to 9.2 14 about election that's also related to the same thing okay the the New Jersey schools Development Authority wants confirmation that the board of education has removed the court election previously from November to April April April April to November which which this board of education has so we need to just confirm that in um it's not changing the the election that's previously been done it's just confirming no that's not I just um it also authorizes the business administrator to supervise the construction on these projects and it again it commits the Board of Education to these projects and and their willingness to accept the grant Awards and last week we received from the New Jersey SDA the acceptance and authorization for these grants that are as follows we applied for 14 grants for boilers security upgrades bathroom upgrades and um they approved the most material of the projects which are the boilers I think the state maybe underestimated the amount of volume of the grants and the scope of school district's construction needs so they really narrowed in on the skin of the facilities uh projects which in our case uh was approval for what I had hoped for the most was the boilers because school boilers are one of the most expensive pieces of equipment in the school and these are projects that are generally done through Bond referendum to replace because they're too costly to put in an operational budget we're very fortunate because we're able to do these in the operational budget because of the state participation of 66% of reimbursement of all costs the high school is getting boilers and related equipment including hot water heaters costing an estimated $991,000 and the state's going to reimburse the district 65649 Lamont Annex is going to receive boilers and related hot water heaters costing $338,800 and the state reimbursement is $555,500 Lafayette is going to receive boilers and related hot water heaters costing $7,800 and the state reimbursed $42,988 and small e school which has one of the more system spaces is going to receive um boilers and related cost of 1,834 240 and the state reimbursement is 1,214 1852 th000 that's a total project cost of about 4.6 million the state reimbursement is about 3 million so bar um Bound Brook share is only $1.5 million to replace the worst boilers that are in need of replacement and long overdue in the district these are going to be new equipment they're going to be greener they're going to save on utility bills going forward as opposed to these 1970 turn them on and open the windows they only have one temperature style boilers and uh this is a very large project in scope it's a material upgrade to these buildings that will serve this community for at least 30 years to come and um if anybody has any questions about these I'll be happy to talk about it the the next steps for this process is tonight's hopeful board award resolution passing for these um then certify the resolutions and submit all of the signed grant paperwork then once we receive back the fully executed Grant agreement from the njsda we will go out to bid and then the board of education wor the bids and then we can begin construction it's expected that that those latter steps will happen in this school year so Mr gy just on behalf of the board let me say thank you to you and your team for the work that you've put in on this I mean all the way you support us an engagement in architect Architecture Firm to draft all these new agreements which was no small Fe itself um I AP to to draft off the project all our entire wish list didn't conf funded by the state clearly a significant portion what the district needs did um and it wouldn't have been done without all the hard work that your team put in um so thank you for that I know that you know from from the community whether it's the the maintenance team or teachers and students in the rooms I'm sure that they will all be happy to have a little bit more control over uh the temperature that they have to to work in during the weeks or months um uh and and just again I want to actually say thank you to our senior members on the board who've been here for a little while as well as uh our predecessors because you know we were in a financial position to actually take advantage of the r grant program from the state in part because of the diligence of the prior board Administration that we actually had the fund to go forward and say that we match uh and fund these projects out of pocket if necessary uh which was all part and parcel of actually receiving the awards so plos to you guys for making good decisions in the past as well thank just like to echo on those comments and commend Dr Freeman and Mr gy and their teams for their work I'm not sure the average person understands uh the level of complexity and ocracy that is associated with these grants and they're wonderful um unities that the state has provided us and we're so happy that district has pursued but they're very very difficult and I think there's probably quite a few school districts throughout the state that are still reading the instructions trying to figure it out they make it Beyond complicated and there's so much value in having professional people who know the buildings but also know the system how to advance things through the process appropriately and our district is benefiting to the tune of millions of dollars um that will be upgraded services for our building so thank you for your work and uh for stewarding us through this Grand application process and it's as easy and as um delightful as the government might make it sound we are very um I wanted to say something too it was almost ago that Lisa and I met with mik and we went to each of the buildings and saw the boilers and everything it was actually very Tas and to think from that initial walkr of what was needed to now just signing off on this actually seeing this happen it's just phenomenal um it just is Kudos I I wrote a note here thanks Mike I mean it just and the teamwork you know Dr Freeman you know grisy just a wonderful team and it it really is benefitting the district thank you so much right and certainly the operations committee led by Mr a lot work a lot of review especially early stages and project considerations narrowing it down most conseal listen if my ego wasn't big enough now that definitely makes it no seriously but thank you everyone it's uh it's just you know what is we have a great team all around we have thank you Mr that I just wanted to switch quickly to 9.23 the fundraiser for Katie's Place I wanted to say whoever who put that together student I have to say uh Kudos I wanted to say thank you and uh it reaffirms the hope we all have for our youth and for our community and for how caring our you know when you look at TV and social media you hear you know a lot of the negative but what incredible positive things coming out of our high school coming out of our middle elementary schools and this is just an example of Mr Smith I I can't tell you my hats off your kids are great our kids are great and and this is just an example of you know one little you know my grandfather used to say the water flow begins with a drop of water right and this is just exceptional so my head off to [Applause] person ium again I had two things on here one was 9.23 which the so kudos for that again and also the annual dodge ball coming up oh except I don't want to take another ball for the back of the head [Applause] [Music] part of the game yeah the other thing was um 9.7 cplus property of a mini tour bus what's the mini tour bus Miss H we have a older bus that was just replaced by one of the two newer ones that we just purchased and initially we thought we could keep this this one and it's a smaller bu that's why it's called a m keep as a spare but um one of our drivers and the mechanics involved took a a closer look at it and it needed an engine it needed a transmission it needed so many material parts that the replacement of alled them would have made it worth it and it became to the point where it was unreliable to even use as a backup so we're going to um use a school approved auction cyc called go deals to put it nationally we've had success getting decent bids on those in the past thank you any other comments or questions on Section n hearing n we'll close the discussion and ask for a roll call Mr B yes Mr Dawson yes Miss gazino yes Miss Carlton ex thank you Mr subco yes Miss Moen yes Mr Minas yes Miss High yes Mr bmer yes Mr Januzzi yes motion passes thank you business anything that the committee members would like to raise that was not on the agenda question um we had a family that was impacted by a fire I'm sure and um I was told that we gave them some gift cards and I'd asked the question is there any way that the the district can authorize an individual or a team to go to the shop rights the costos the targets and solicit gift cards for people that have kns um I say this because I have a friend of mine who was with the Salvation Army and the word SE director coordinator and he was always getting donations I it's nice to give them $100 gift pay for a motel for one night but that's we are a community and I'd like to think that we in school are a family this is a family member that's heard and I think that there's ways that we can reach out to the local businesses and say we have a need we got 10,000 people in this town and a significant number of us go to Costco to Costco still help out I don't know what the process procedure would be but if we got any families that that really need some help I think to be somewh to explore so we did take an active um measure in that way we have multiple counselors from small and social workers as well reaching out to both the local services so we reached out to the local um police contact here as well we reached out to shite to Costco to other places to ask for donations um we also have davidman who's our business contact reaching out for donations as well so we are taking your advice and we have a point person in Emily at a counselor connecting with all the different populations out there but working directly with the family so we've brought them to various resources um we certainly actively have been on this since the day after we the day after it happened so what you just said yes and more is amen than [Applause] you uh any other items for new business froms that's I was trying to remember what I was going to bring up but that's what it was so we talked a little bit at the operations committee if you all can see up above about the beautiful stained glass uh windows that are in the ceiling panels of the auditorium here and we learned um from our director of buildings and grounds that there actually were lights up there so tonight we actually have them on so everybody can see what they look like um and while it does appear that there are some sides of Aging you could probably uh use a touch up in certain places it's a beautiful element you know to the auditorium one that's not common in the area so um robberto if you are watching or seeing this on replay thank you very much for making that out great all right so if there's no other new business we will open to the public for open discussion any comments from the room good Tom do we have any comments online um just refresh the page I am not seeing [Music] any uh he resolve Board of educations enters executive session as by can I have a motion motion thank you Mr B second second thank you Mr all in favor your [Music] return all right you're live all right everybody we are up to item 14.1 be it resolved that the B Board of Education approves the resolutions as outlined in hi cases on our high school this is 14.2 14.3 can I have a motion motion thank you Mr Dawson second second thank you Miss High Mr B yes Mr Dawson yes M Casino yes M Carlton yes Mr subco yes m m yes Mr benas yes m h yes Mr Palmer yes Mr janosi yes motion pass thank you we are up to item 15.1 resolve that b board education approves the resolution says outline HIV cases on the middle and elementary schools this is item 15.2 15 [Laughter] motion this goes further can we Mr B yes Mr Dawson yeso yes M Carlton thank you Mr zco yes Miss musen yes Mr minhas yes Miss High yes Mr Balmer yes Mr Jan yes motion passes thank you item 16 which is motion thank you Mr second second thank you Mr
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2024-02-01 Middlesex County, MA YouTube / WACA-TV Ashland transcript source: youtube It's Your Move · passage 1
come on make your move stop quit stalling hey I think I hear somebody coming out the walkway yeah yeah here you go Queen takes Rook what should we do come on sit down and make your move we can't do anything in our condition you know [Music] that home sweet home welcome home oh Greg wow that was a great dinner you know I think I'm ready for a night C yes Greg that's a great idea here have a seat and I'll make us a drink how about a James Martin 20year old wow Lydia you really know how to impress a man wow 20-year-old Scotch 20-year-old Scotch what else do you have up your sleeve you'll find out I'd like that now Lydia I've been thinking about us and how much fun the last few months have been oh yes Greg me too what a whirlwind who would have thought you would take that goat yoga class and ask me out oh nights out dancing fancy dinners going to the lake housee it's all been wonderful wow a few few months it's taken a lot longer than mine mine took 3 weeks wow you're fast hey not at everything I would like to think maybe we can take things to the next level there it is it's happening again I guess we shall see well that's how it all starts come on are we playing chess or you ease dropping oh Greg I I'd love to but I'm not sure my kids might be upset if I married again Lydia you need to think of yourself and not worry about your kids they're adults what if I throw the newspaper in the air to disrupt the next steps really what the heck was that I think the window's open hold on I'll shut it that's odd the window is closed H nice try well you got a better idea Miss Bobby Fisher as a matter of fact I do now where were we yes where were we I suppose I do need to move on and I think we need to get closer I think I need to move out of the way but you know about my financial situation Greg I don't want my kids to think their inheritance is in Jeopardy oh Lydia stop it do you like being with me or not of course I do it's just it's just what the the money well yes my late husband made a fortune he left it all to me I have a responsibility to keep it safe for my children's sake as well as my own what do you want me to do sign a prenup don't you trust me I I do I do it's just just what I love love you Lydia and I'm in love with you and I love you too haven't we heard those words before yep sounds familiar the same load of crap that was played on me and on me and it worked it obviously worked on you why not on me well I never thought that that was your style well I didn't think that was your style either yeah but I got to admit smooth and Charming a little too smooth I should have seen through it no I did but I had already signed the papers and the next thing you know drinking the poison 2 weeks after I signed the papers I was found floating in the swimming pool my head bashed in with a pool pole oh poor baby doesn't show neither does the poison that ate out your gut anyway what can we do play chess it's your move hey I have an idea what you may like it or you may not okay I'm listening I had these papers drawn up I knew you'd be worried about the money so I thought we could become Partners everything I have is yours and everything you have is mine you know my company is worth $5 million and with what your late husband left you it's all even no worries oh Craig I'm not sure this sounds too good to be true but I do love you and it sounds fair I guess we'll uh need a pen here it goes Bill knck the pen over so we can't find the papers what the heck oh your butt as good this is plain chest let me try there now it's your turn ldia oh Greg I I I'm not sure it all seems so final is it fair Lydia I love you I would do anything for you sign here and your money will be safe I promise and I do love you you make me so happy Smooth Move Jane they're signing the papers it's too late one more victim coming up how this one go I'm thinking gunshot to the Head strangled sleep yeah maybe poison it worked before yeah too obvious that would happen twice yeah you're right uh KN knife to the wrist no it's got to look like an accident yeah true and cut the brake lines of the car 270s it's like the opening to a Columbo epis well how do you think it's going to go I'm betting slip and fall in a wet shower you're on uh I'll say U Blowfish improperly prepared you're on there now that's all signed money issues all settled no more worries Greg since my husband died meeting you has been the best thing to happen to me same here Lydia you don't know how happy you've just made me now you can show me honey what was that noise I didn't hear anything come on Lydia you must have heard something it sounds like someone's trying to break in let me check it out let me go with you oh great maybe we should just call the police yes the police call the police for crying out loud not going to happen I don't need to call the police I can handle it I have an orange belt in karate yeah he's a regular Lethal Weapon Belle this is going to happen tonight getting better with experience I see gr be careful I win I guess how so I said slip and fall in the shower it was a slip and fall down the stairs close enough checkmate what's going who the heck are you guys how did you get in here I'm Bill Connors I'm Lydia's first victim welcome to the club and I'm Jane Williams Lydia's second victim victims what do you mean victims well once you signed the papers handing over your partnership you signed your death certificate death certificate you mean you guys are dead so are you my friend so are you we tried to warn you with the flying newspapers and the pens that old pen thing that was you yep we tried thanks Nancy you were perfect I didn't think that idiot was going to have the papers tonight I'm glad you were listening in on our conversation I'm always here for you I was getting a little worried how far you were going to take it so when are we going to have enough money to leave for Albania oh not now Nancy we'll discuss it later you need to get going go out the back you can't be seen here I'll meet you back at your place tonight and we can celebrate now I need to call the police I'm looking forward to it anything for you Lydia now get going make sure not to be spotted she's a slim one I tell you hello police yes my boyfriend he fell down the stairs I think he's hurt I think he might be dead oh God please help yes I'll hold Lydia why why why because she's a sneaky and conniving that's why she made me feel like I was the love of her life she made me feel like I was the love of her life like I said I didn't think that was your style never mind she's very convincing and attractive I did not see this coming yes yeah yes he's not moving and his head is bleeding oh please Harry Harry it's the address is 26 Oak Street yes I'll stay on the line yeah so Jane what did we bet anyway we never actually picked something hm well next time let's pick something good uh you know she's going to do it again yeah 5 million only goes so far the way she spending money so how does this death thing work what do we do now well for one thing we have nothing but time and a chessboard set them up Bill oh Greg honey I hope your game is better than this old stiffs Greg it's your [Music] move [Music]
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2024-02-01 Franklin County, MA YouTube / Greenfield Community Television (GCTV) transcript source: youtube Greenfield Public School Committee Policy Program Sub-Commit… · passage 1
[Music] good morning and welcome to the Greenfield Public Schools committee meeting a policy and program um subcommittee it's 11:01 and I'll call the roll call um member Priti he remember Denise here and I'm here and we have a quorum so we get started um the only item on the agenda today is um reviewing section I and [Music] um uh the full committee approved this on a first reading um maybe December um and I think so yeah so this is our first chance to look at it as a um subcommittee and um hope is to bring something to the school committee for the February meeting for a second reading um I thought maybe we could start with General um I don't know if people had had questions or or changes that you'd like to see U maybe we could have a discussion about that um before we do a vote on um approving it I had a few questions great go ahead member Den mostly because section I is really IM mediate it's like 120 plus pages of of stuff and it's hard to get through but as I was reading I was wondering if there were a few places where we could be a little bit more um current but also I wanted to ask a few questions about it for example in IB academic freedom um we mention um I'm sorry I'm downloading it again here we go okay it mentions that we educate students in democratic tradition and uh respect for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and I was wondering if is this a section where we might want to include um that uh some sort of foundational point about educating students regardless of sexual or gender orientation um or is that something that would reside in another part of policy only I believe that um I'm thinking I believe there are policies in section A but I'd have to look that sort of speak to the fact that um policies are all inclusive regardless of race um religion I believe that to be the case but I will double check that I thought so too but I just wanted to ask because it seemed like that was the kind of the place to put it but if we have an umbrella policy then um I think so but I can certainly double check I had um noted one place where um sexual orientation is mentioned in this policy me um what happened to my little window but I will find [Music] it uh the instructional materials mentions it so I don't think it's exactly what you're talking about member Den but that's one place where it is sexual orientation is mentioned only bring it up because when we were at yo last week the students were specifically asking for stronger policies around um protection for our lgbtq Ias student and um so I was sort of looking when I was reading section I I had I had what they were asking me as a kind of a guide in my head so that's why I asked that I guess the to I guess I it would be helpful to know what aspects they felt needed to be addressed yeah I think so too I agree okay any other comments or questions on the policy from Members okay I had some um let me see back to my notes can I just share that I realized I had not um made graduation requirements current so I do have them revised to be current otherwise we'd have a bunch of very happy seniors leaving with much less credits than they expected to need and I don't think we want to do that okay that's part of I right yes yeah I think that that correction would be welcome by [Music] everyone I can review it if we get down to that section just so you know and I'll upload the new um the new version for the school committee meeting great um it looked to me like I there I have a few things that are more like typographical but it looked to me like h m a repeated ha a i a m a maybe it should be I I think it's I M A and it does look like it's it's repeated it did it does one of them is is will be deleted yeah okay great all right I had a question about in um special instructional programs and accommodations programs for children with special needs can you tell me what letters yeah I should have made note of that but I um we looked at that yesterday there was a little typo in that well there was a little typo in one um file ihb but that is stricken out for some reason I'm not sure why but it is I think it is ihb hold please what the heck is that somehow we enderr uping an e IB the joy of this being such a needy section we get to scroll a lot yeah I contr F to find things IB there are two of them so frequently there are the the whole section is generally made up of if there's a Greenfield version of a policy and then a more updated version from masc yeah um barring any substantive variation I generally went with the masc because they would have the most current review of policy so that's what this looks like that the Green Field version was deleted and then following it is the um masc version yeah and that's the case throughout and I think when we send this out to the full committee for their review we should let them know yes it is 120 pages but a lot of it is striking out but um although for a final vote I guess the question for you folks my intention would be to take out the strikeouts and just give the committee a clean version great yeah but I had a question about the first sentence of this um policy which is where it says and to return to the mainstream of social society as soon as possible I think in many cases we're trying to ensure that children never leave the mainstream or so could you talk a little bit about that in that choice of language um well sort of it's you know this was the language that was made maintained by masc I think um I think many references related to special education whether they're statutorily referenced are still pretty Antiquated um so I mean if the committee wants to delete it we can certainly delete it I think if you put a period after self-reliance that would represent the goal I mean we want all of our students to have the highest level of Independence and and positive function in society as they can so I or maybe even just said if it said return and and stay in the mainstream of school Society or return to it as soon as possible whatever you guys want I mean I it's some of this um I think to some degree um some of this policy is sort of broad Strokes for the function of a school district um but absolutely we can change this to whatever whatever you want we could say and to remain in or return to the mainstream of school society as soon as possible yeah I would propose that in is there any objection to that okay all right and two hold on let me edit now Y in or return to okay all set okay and then um I noted that the gifted and talented POS policy is completely stricken can you speak to that at all or unless I misunderstood we let me find it I don't know if you have letters oh gifted and talented um unless we're missing something um oh masc does not have this policy and we do not have program for gifted and talented and unless I've missed something which I'm open to have missed it is not required okay great I say striking it I was gonna ask about that because I've asked as a parent about those programs and they're not there so I was gonna ask a similar question yeah okay cool uh let's see the next one that I have um uh so the next ones were about the homeschooling policy um Karen has confirmed that the homeschool policy and I'm looking at her home School homeschool policy one is deleted and then the new one added Karen confirm for me that is the new version where the heck did it go I gbg IH BG G I know I saw it yesterday it down is it out of order um we don't have page numbers mine are mine is not here okay I have to put it back in for some reason my version that was used to provide your version doesn't have that policy but that is super weird but I'll put it back in and that wait and it also says at the bottom it's oh that's the alternative schools program goes ihb okay um okay so that's the new one that you folks voted okay maybe that's why it's not in your pack is because we already um prove that one I think it might be out of order because I swear I read it earlier this morning not crossed out and now I also can't find it I see crossed out version followed by a cross a non-cross out version with all all the words in red the the the two Crossed Out versions are exceptionally long and those are definitely not yeah there is one in here though that I have that's not crossed out follows the two Crossed Out versions good is in red it's not crossed out but it is in red as opposed to other policies then that is likely the edit that I inserted yeah great Okay so I guess part of this policy talks about a report from the an annual report from the superintendent to the school committee about um homeschooling instruction and I just wondered what that looks like um because I'm assuming there's privacy issues oh yeah the superintendent will prepare for the school committee an annual summary of the children who participate in home instruction Karen just said she usually includes that in an assistant superintendent report at some point during the year oh okay and what does that look like I don't remember literally just numbers yeah it's just data I remember it from last year only because it was around the same time that we reviewed and changed the policy great and how does is this um we also approved a policy about homeschoolers access to School District programs is that a different policy that was SP I believe right yes just Athletics that's in a different section of our policy um no it should be in this so it should be okay um I didn't see it but um is the version that you have the right one well why don't I share my screen so everyone can see what I'm looking at Great could you make me a co-host so I can share I can yes so the issue as soon as I find you yes you can hold on Glen there you are just so we can't hear Karen we can I know in the room um we get Echo so the issue is you didn't specifically add students who are homeschooled May participate in athletics you just took out that they may not okay I see so yes this is the current um there was a line that said students may not participate in yeah um and now that is gone okay and by default since it's not prohibited it's with the superintendent's discretion it's allowed yep okay great all right um let's see [Music] um yeah so under instructional materials um oh you guys are looking at my um looking at your notes yeah um let me find instructional materials I assume you're going in order Glenn so that makes it yeah I think so okay instr instructional materials policy i j um on item five it lists phical disabilities or sexual orientation I'm wondering if we can add gender identity to this list so my edit so you folks I think have pink anything that's pink yeah you see the edit but yes I can add in for gender identity no objection Amy and Elizabeth no Glenn can we continue this scroll down share screen experience for this whole policy because it's so media yeah of course I've got it open on three different screens over here and I'm gonna lose my mind that's fine yeah but remember question I kind of I kind of want to keep the focus just on the policy so rather than going back and forth to my notes so I'm going to change this share a little bit just a second [Music] okay and now you you all can see it okay um oh there just for some reason under academic achievement it's still using the his her thing but I think we we're using they them right yes okay and go back through and check throughout the whole thing for that yeah okay great and then uh the final my final comment was about the graduation requirement it looked like it there's a blank space where we need to insert the name of our schools I did oh great okay yes all right and updated so let me tell you what the update is let me find graduation the other thing as I'm scrolling down to graduation that I want you folks to be aware of all of the acceptable use and digital policies are going to have to be re-reviewed um we will need to review those in great detail with our attorneys but the amount of time that it will take oh good Glen um the amount of time that it will take us to do that I think that in the interest of getting the policy manual as a whole updated on the masc website um it makes sense to just leave those as they have been fix everything else and then we can bring you these policies individually for review yeah otherwise it's going to be months more and I I know that the committee wants the manual on the masc site as a hosted policy manual nice okay great I'm getting here hold on anyone else yes I have it so in order to graduate from Greenfield High School student must have earned at least 120 credits not 95 okay then the breakdown is 20 credits of English 15 of math 15 of science 15 of social studies five of Health 10 Wellness 2.5 credits of tech 10 credits of Arts and Humanities and then 27 additional um so that's the current those are the current graduation requirements and again I'll resend this out with all of the with this modification in it excellent any other discussion of the or questions about section I um I had just a quick question um under IH AE physical education h i AE yeah okay it's not so much a change as just a clarification because I'm going back to the students were asking me about one last week at that conference um it says that uh may include but is not limited to recreational team sports fitness and daily activities such as walking running climbing and gardening Dance Yoga swimming and stretching and the students were asking if they can get um gym credits physical education credits for activities like like does Sports qualify and I said well yeah I'm pretty sure Sports qualifies because it's in our policy no but I want to check it doesn't and that if they were looking to clarify that I'm sorry they didn't go to their guidance counselors they could have clarified for them very quickly I'm still scrolling Elizabeth sorry oh it's okay I'm not seeing a revised a IH AE I'm seeing it stricken stricken yeah all right Ben there's um if I can find it I can speak intelligently about it I'm almost there um so a couple things there are first of all the oh I know why we cut this um masc does not have a policy on this anymore the topics cover under physical education are identified in the standards through the Department of Education we would follow those um and our graduation requirements identify how much and state statute identifies how much physical education students need to have so this is redundant on multiple fronts okay I knew I could say something intelligent if I saw my notes in front of me no that's that's great I really appreciate it I just was kind of trying to see like you were saying earlier having it having the policy manual up and current is like one step but then the next step is us going through and adjusting and changing and making things work for our district specifically so I kind of am still getting my mind around what we have in place versus what is best practice versus what we can change and so on and so forth y so thank you sure any other discussion of section I okay um so I we hear a motion to approve section I with the changes as discussed so moved second okay any further discussion okay let's vote um member Den yes member Priti yes and I'm a yes so it passes unanimously to be brought to the full committee for a second reading perfect one more down how many more do we have well I skipped P but that only has three policies so I can get that one in quick JK I they jkl is the last and are any of those big ones like this one oh they all are they all are okay reading specs folks they are they are all that long I I will finish them before I leave because Karen has my address so I'm finishing them before I leave how soon can we get this to the full committee to um have time to yeah I would assume this would be on the February meeting no but can we get it to them today so they have time to read it they have 13 days basically what if I commit to tomorrow because I have to accept all the deletions and all that sure that'd be great as soon as you can would be wonderful because I know we have some very thorough members who may want to read every word and I don't want them to I don't I don't want to put off the vote I want to pass this in February move on to I have started working on the next section and it is as um it is absolutely as long as this one is there a possibility we can do the one with only three items for first reading on um the 14th um I'm sure I can yes that be great okay terrific all right um well with that I guess would hear a motion to adjourn motion to adjourn second okay any discussion no discussion vote um member Priti yes member denev yes and I'm a yes so we are adjourned at 11:28 am thank you very much superintendent for all your work on this thank you thank you everyone [Music]
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Terry's on Terry Terry you have notes tonight right so you're good so I don't if Kim joins later that's fine is Kim on no okay so I I called order the hello hello oh I'm sorry you're you're you're good okay so I called a meeting the uh the January 23rd Board of Education meeting uh in this virtual um virtual content only tonight which means that we'll probably be eliminating some of the things that you see on the general agenda and we'll move thing through uh this pretty quickly um one of the things that we're going to bypass because we don't have a flag is uh unless somebody wants to hold one I think I'll I'll just I'll pass on the pledge tonight and uh nobody send in a letter to the editor that I passed on the pledge so um so we'll pass on the pledge and we'll go right to the administrative report which is the Chairman's Corner which the only things that I want to uh mention to this board is and we'll get into it a little bit more with our reps is um we met with the board of Finance last night and we alerted them to some changes that may be occurring in this year's budget due to some um some funding that maybe we were counting on that we won't get and we probably won't get at the level that we budgeted for which is only going to increase our our deficit to some extent so uh we did report that the board of finance and the board of Finance understands uh where we're coming from um so that was uh that was pretty good and then uh the other thing is that um that uh we are going to be talking more about CIP that the board of Finance is coming up with more of a long range plan towards CIP I don't know uh if if it'll take place this year or next year but they're certainly focused on trying to solve some of the town's Financial shortfalls that we have on a more of a long-term basis and and some of that has to do with the capital Improvement plan so I'm I'm very pleased with the direction and and the um uh future thinking of our Board of Finance uh so I I I'm expecting very good things out of that group going forward so Ju Just to let you know so um and then the final thing I wanted to mention is we are out to RFQ on the on the modular and um we're expecting something back probably in February according to Bob Skinner and when we hear more on that we'll get back to you so those are the three items that really I wanted to mention uh in this in this month's chairman report any questions for me for the chair okay hearing none we'll go right to the superint just a quick question any update on possible reimbursement on the modulus so we we are we're we're looking into that there's some thought that we may be available what might be available is about 38% Jordan we're thinking 38 39% correct we won't we don't we won't know that for a while we submitted our Grant application in we'll find out um excuse me let me step back we have to go out to um bid for our architect first put plans together and then we have to go through the whole uh process of applying so we're we're not there yet Joe but we're gonna be we will aggressively look at that so you're muted Joe sorry it's still a possibility well the the the possibility is is we we need to we're going through all the processes right now we're going through um the RFP for an architect and then the architect we'll have to put plans together and then we'll have to go through the the process with the Department of administrative Services thank you any other questions before I move to the superintendent report okay uh we'll go to the superintendent's report announcements super thank you thank you Mr uh Daniels it's great to see everyone I wish we were in person uh tough call today by the superintendent of schools but what I will tell you it is very slick um I just actually came in a little while ago and the the roads are starting to Slick up so um this this is the best that we could do it's great to see state senator seminer and representative deot with us this evening I'm glad state senator I I know you were in the waiting room and now we uh got you in so thank you for getting for in it it will be a great conversation uh later in the the evening in the meeting I'll be sharing my responses to the board of ed questions on our open Choice memo proposed forecast budget that I presented at our last meeting and then the administration will be here to answer any questions that you may have regarding what you've seen relative to the forecast of budget and the open Choice with the the privilege to present the administration Budget on February 13th which is our next meeting I had the privilege and I don't know if anybody else did to attend the Middle School play th this past weekend Phantom toll booth what did what a great effort that our middle school students put in this play it was entertaining and the the crowd on Friday night was very large crowd and I believe the the the Saturday uh crowd was was just as large so congratulations to our Middle School also congratulations to our high school seniors since our last meeting our high school seniors presented their K Mastery projects and what a what a great event when when you walk in and the first thing that you see is a big boat it it realize that there's really not a boat in our school but when you walked in on that night once you walked in there was a boat of one of the students seniors built a a Mastery project with um building a boat and it was well done I was very impressed I know there was a few board members that were able to walk around that evening so very impressive great job to the the high school the there are a lot of events that are that are coming up that I would encourage the the board in the community to get involved in we have our course selection an info session for the class of 28 that's our current eighth graders on January 31st on February 3rd get your ticket now because I can promise it'll be sold out it will be the prisms concert on February 3rd 7:30 we have an early release professional development February 13th and then we have our board meeting and finance committee meeting and policy committee meeting on the 13th of February and we have a short break February 19th in February 20th so that that's really exciting that we of all the things that are happening in the camp Public Schools so I I'll take any questions at a superintendent's office at this time just want to say the senior projects were really terrific it was a great night it's all you Mr Daniels you're muted again you're muted uh you're muted there now you're good the host muted me who is the host Tonight Kira fooling around all right uh we have uh Simone Maggie and Juliana on who wants to go first I can start for the high school and middle school I was gonna say go ahead okay so um along with what Dr Gman was just speaking on um we had our senior Camp projects and they turned out amazing including Lyla Brower who made a real rowboat from scratch which was very very cool like he mentioned uh Julia Cogan sewed her own ice skating costumes Nikolai marinin wrote and performed a standup comedy act Darien Camaro wrote a weightlifting guide for beginners Katie Harrington upcycled her old clothing Cole Edwards created his own language and I wrote and produced the song um and then the middle school had their play The Phantom toe Booth which went fantastic so congratulations and good job to everyone who was involved finally the new semester started today congratulations to all the students for working so hard to do well and to all the teachers who worked so hard to make sure we have the best education possible that's great SAR thank you very much Maggie you want to go next yeah I'll follow up with the CIS report so tomorrow is their PTO sponsored family paint night they have 33 families attending and will be using a fraction of the Slate they saved from last Summer's roofing project as their canvases and they're excited to reuse pieces of the building in this way their last advisory meeting focused on responsibility what it looks like at school at home and in the community and during their February advisory they will be striving to show gratitude by making Valentine's Day cards for the community's Frontline workers and their bus and van drivers in anticipation of bus driver appreciation month a bus driver appreciation day at the end of the month great thank you anything else Juliana okay so I'll be doing uh Cherrybrook uh cherb students will be participating in the kids heart challenge um Jump Rope for Heart um from January 16th to February 2nd during their PE classes um they have been active participants in this program for many years and have raised thousands of dollars for the American Heart Association uh School culture and climate uh honey the Cherrybrook mascot has been busy uh visiting classrooms who have earned uh 50 positive cards uh Cherrybrook students are doing a great job at modeling being safe kind and responsible and uh to the state they have 2,423 positive cards uh additionally Unified sports at Cherrybrook is now up and running uh since 2009 Cherrybrook students have been participating in Unified sports right now there are 40 uhk through third grade students participating this year and uh Unified sports joins people with and without disabilities on the same team so it's a great way to have some school spirit and to um have people meet each other thank you great report so uh Maggie Juliana and Simone anybody have any questions for our studart reps on anything you just heard tonight good reports lot of activities going uh as we break through January into February looking forward to the spring I think everybody is but uh okay good report we'll turn to Mr Bishop on the assistant superintendent's report please thank you Mr Daniels excuse me a couple elements out of the uh assistant superintendent's office kindergarten registration information did go out to our uh Community uh and we look forward to a a strong process c um in particular in connection with the recent State legislation uh we continue to work uh closely with the school on the uh planning for the implementation of the new reading program uh uh required by State Statute this uh upcoming year and then additionally I wanted to be able to share as well that I had an opportunity to speak with several Community constituents on uh safe walk to school and safe route to schools and and had the opportunity to connect with representatives from the uh state to discuss uh opportunities to um work with our municipality to evaluate um routs to school and make possible recommendations on uh improvements within the community to be able to support uh fund acquisition for the town and to be able to support our schools as well uh but those were a few highlights for me and I look forward to being able to connect with uh our curriculum committee at our next meeting John what's our what's our exception rate up to on the uh on the kindergarten side reest for no new no news yet no news okay no news yet great okay uh that closes out the reports Mr Dan can I just can I just interrupt for a sec uh Mr Bishop can you give a a quick update of your uh first Equity team meeting yesterday please oh thank you Dr Grossman absolutely uh we had our first Equity team meeting uh yesterday with our district Equity team so thrilled to be able to have uh uh representatives from each of our schools come together and working in in collaboration with uh the partners for educational leadership Carrie Lord and Patrice Nelson uh Carrie and Patrice worked with us to be able to develop our uh Equity statement a few years ago and we're thrilled to be able to have them back to help bring uh action and Direction into our Equity action plan so we have a wonderful team that has assembled and really looking forward to uh the the coordinated work with this team with our instructional coaches and with our administrative team as well thank you Dr grman any questions for the assistant superintendent anything you heard okay we're moving right along this normally doesn't happen like this but we are moving right along um so this comes up to the public comment side of things Kira um do we have anybody that would like to make a public comment tonight and we just ask you to uh I understand that we're virtual but if you can keep your comments to three minutes we'd appreciate that so any Body online that would like to say anything if you're joining us online and you would like to make public comment go ahead and use that raise hand feature zoom and I will call on you by your Zoom name and then you'll be allowed to talk I have uh Andrew Lavery with a raised hand I'm gonna allow Andrew to talk great good afternoon uh good evening Andrew how are you how you doing L can everybody hear me yep we can hear you fine perfect perfect yeah I just want just real quick uh Andrew La for pineacres Drive just two for for the record um when we give the like the the subcommittee reports Mr Bishop just gave a report on that on that Equity meeting um a little more detail if we could like okay you had the equity meeting for example Mr Bishop but what specifically did you talk about is there a way for me to look that up a little more detail all you basically gave is what I what I basically heard is that you had a meeting you met with some partners he gave some names and that was it like what specifically happened what specifically happens at the and what specifically talked about in some detail about the subcommittee meetings I've looked at some of the minutes for the subcommittee meetings and they're very very vague the reports that are given by the board of members who sit in those subcommittees again the reports are very vague we talked about this we discussed that no specific detail at all really ever given in my experience and the handful of Board of Ed meetings that I've attended here recently so if there could be some more some more substance to these reports and uh better minutes taken that would be great for uh for more information for the public thank you good good suggestions Andrew I sometimes my myself I think we're we're a little bit light in favor of trying to uh move through the meeting but I hear you um Mr Bishop do we have minutes on on that are there minutes that are going to be published from that meeting that that's not a subcommittee meeting uh Mr Daniels that's a a representative uh group from our district but uh we were going to be able to provide an update to the uh the board of education curriculum subcommittee so we can have information via that mechanism we should um if we're participating on it then I think the board members should get some type of minutes or something along those lines and along with the Andrew's points U maybe we do need to go into a deeper dive sometimes when we Mak reports so let me uh let me jump in there Lou that the equity team meeting is a a teacher meeting uh but what is um in great detail that that would um possibly answer that question and is that um the assistant superintendent through the curriculum committee gives an assistant superintendent report that really has detailed activities of what this assist superintendent is doing within his office and details of what these committees are doing and what they're specifically uh working on so we'll take what you said Mr Daniels and we'll make sure that um our subcommittee uh minutes that we're keeping within the the finance committee the policy committee and the the curriculum committee or more detailed that Equity team that that's a a school-based team but we'll we'll make sure that we'll have to work with if this is a priority to yours Mr Daniel we'll we'll make sure that we work with the chairs of um Mrs Hayes with the curriculum committee Mr Bush with uh the the finance committee and Mr shiler with the policy to make uh the minutes more detailed thank you and I recognize the limitations on this because we don't necessarily have recording secretaries at every one of these meetings so somebody's volunteering or somebody on the staff is doing that but uh um May maybe we should um try to get a little bit of a deeper dive into what's being uh what we're going over and what we're trying to accomplish so that'd be great thank you thank you for that question Andrew appreciate it any other questions online Kira I don't have any other raised hands um if anybody else would like to comment now's your now's your time no other raised hands okay thank you very much Kira okay tonight we were going to we were going to and this will be one of the things that are tabled uh we were going to be recognizing the um the shops at Farmington Valley for uh the uh their contributions to education primarily school education but the monies that they give to our town are are significant as a matter of fact over the last 20 years and I was going to comment on some of the projects but I'll save that but it's in excess of $100,000 which I consider to be a good neighbor uh that they've given to Canton Education Foundation in turn Canton Foundation has given that mostly I would say 98% of that goes to our schools uh for projects that are unbudgeted and uh there is a Canton Education Foundation committee the committee uh there's an apption process that's reviewed and those dollars are given out so uh Liz arrian who is the uh the general manager over at the shops who's going to attend tonight we have a a couple um uh citations proclamations for her but we're gon to we're going to move that out to February so we we'll table that any questions on that guys so it gives me a great pleasure and I'm very thankful and appreciative that both our state representatives can make it tonight Senator Lisa seminer and state representative uh elany carbos de gr are both with us tonight it would have been nice to have them in person uh it's always great to see them and I would just say from this board's pect perspective we're very appreciative of what you both do uh for us in the way you represent our town and um always uh you know looking for ways that we can uh maybe there's a a grant here or some influence there to help out camp so we appreciate that tonight um I'd like each to you know spend a few minutes just bringing us up to date in your respective offices but um you know the the question that's going to be on everybody's mind to some extent and we realize you're probably just as upset as we are is the uh excess cost sharing that uh those dollars that um have seemed to be reduced maybe maybe not maybe there's an opportunity there and then and then of course some of the grants that are that are sunsetting and of course we're going to have some questions about how we can work jointly together on those unfunded mandates and maybe getting it funded down the line so uh wi with that why don't we start with uh state senator Lisa seminer and then we'll turn over to state representative elany caros de So Lisa do you mind going first uh no not at all um so good good evening everybody thank you for having me tonight um I I uh was I'm prepared to talk to you a little bit about the um excessive Co cost Grant I wasn't sure if you um lost a significant amount or you're feeling that you're you you're not my only Town that's discussing this with me so some people felt that their um amount that they were quoted they are not receiving so is that the case in the in your situation it is we we budgeted there there was a pretty good indication that the we were going to get 88 there was supposedly 88% was going to be funded potentially on its way somewhere down the line to maybe 100% which is where it should be but um we uh we budgeted 88% and uh it's it's a six figure hit to us uh with not without getting that money and you're talking about the excessive cost Grant correct So Lisa we're talking about the excess cost which is the special education uh funding we're not talking about the education cost share okay education cost share uh kon's actually expected to receive the the same amount this year and uh getting uh an increase next year of $398,000 so we're specifically talking about the excess cost that the the state came up with a new formula uh for this year and a a tiered uh system and canton's rate was supposed to be at 88% and so we I worked with the board of Finance in September and actually adjusted our budget from 80 to 88% to to meet that uh not not thinking that would be an issue and about a month ago we started receiving word that it it it may be below 7 % and then yesterday we received some information from uh the Connecticut Association of public school superintendants and in other groups that it could be as low as 70% for us so that's about for Canton right now and now we're looking at it about $140,000 yeah and from what I was told um the uh formula that they use used was that didn't take didn't take into account the amount of special ed students I'm not exactly sure uh why that happened I can tell you that I did um propose some legislation for this upcoming session to take a look at that excessive cost Grant formula because my understanding is that it hasn't been looked at in quite a while so I don't know if that was part of the um of the reasoning be behind why the amount of money that was uh appropriated to each Town isn't isn't happening but and I also asked um for some information in terms of is this affecting every single one of my towns and I haven't received that answer yet and I don't know if um rep degra has any further Insight on it than I do sure I'm I'm happy to pop in um I've been speaking with the chair about this because we had also heard that this might be a challenge and I do believe that it's actually going to be across the state as of now I will say that um the first thing the chair said to me was please have your superintendent and your board of ed chair reach out he's happy to have a meeting je this is Jeff Curry I'm speaking of who is the house board uh ofed chair he's happy to have a meeting anytime um he knows that Cap's put out that information um and he understands why they put out that information but he would like to meet with you one-on-one if if you would so desire um he is going to be doing that with Avon as well because they had similar concerns um the the challenge is yes the wrong we think it was the wrong numbers were used it was data from a previous year so of course that would skew the numbers in terms of U numbers being off for how many special ed students we actually have and so um that number is unfortunately off but I will tell you that um I have seen in the last week um that the chair is very adamant that he gets back to what we what we you know a bipartisan way agreed to have the funding be because we know how important it is to the towns and that um you know your budgets it's really hard to come up with even an extra $140,000 um and you know I think one of my very first meetings as a State Rep was with Canton to talk about the fact that sometimes you have four or five students move into the district where decisions had been made about special ed in other districts and then you could be looking at a half a million or more extra costs that you were not expecting that lands in your budget so um while I can unfortunately make no guarantees I will tell you that we are just as upset about it as you are because that is not what we voted on and that is not what we were expecting and so it it's you know we're here to be your voice and I know Senator seminara feels the same way about that and and so it's our job to continue to Advocate and but but believe me when I tell you it is every single legislator that is hearing this and is going to the chairs and saying so what are we going to do to fix this um because that is again not what we agreed to so we're going to keep fighting for that and um and and moving forward as best we can on that so I hate to tell you to stay tuned but that's where we are and this is why we have you know a short session which makes budget adjustments because we're going to have to hopefully do one here that's great um so we'll keep our fingers closed just to add while we're looking at I also put in legislation or put in you know plan not only to look at the formula but to also consider the time ing that's associated and I know that this has sort of been done many times before but um I hear it from every one of my school districts that the timing of it doesn't allow for for school districts to prepare with their budgets so um I'm hoping we can take a look at that this session and and see if we can make some appropriate changes or you think the towns would just saying tough so so the question the question is that um you know this the state made Lisa as you pointed out the state made a mistake that there was more special education costs so they make the mistake don't they have to find I mean they make this commitment don't they have to go out and find I I know I'm I'm preaching to the choir here but shouldn't they be responsible just like we would be responsible if our Board of Finance said you know you made a mistake now go find your cut go find where you're going to get the money that you need to offset whatever it is I don't know why the state gets a free pass on this I I don't think we do that that's that's I I I I think Senator semire I don't want to speak for you but I I mean I don't think we do um I I think that that's exactly what the chair is saying too it's like no this is not what we said what we said and what we said and what we I don't want to use the word promise but kind of um you know that that was what we were putting forward was that you would get that 88% even potentially up to 100 so I you know and and that is the challenge when we put in legislation that has a fiscal note is that we as your legislators and even as you know a lesson I'm learning as a chair you still have to chase those dollars even after you've passed it because you have to make sure that it is appropriately awarded the way that it was intended so I I agree with you I think the state is responsible for it because we said so thank you I I agree wholeheartedly I just I wish I can tell you you that it's going to be remedied but I I along with uh rep de gr cannot make that sort of promise we certainly every one of us is advocating for our entire districts and um and also hearing from everybody so it's not a you're not a so which I think you already know a soul case so it's an unfortunate circumstance for sure well what are some of the other things that are coming down the pike legislatively that either may be of concern to us or have helped us any any thoughts any ideas um well if you're asking me I think um there's going to be a lot of um I think legislation that's going to talk about or look at engagement of students who have um who don't show up to school uh that's been it's a huge issue it's a growing issue and I think there it is something that is concerning to everybody so I think that is going to be looked at uh coming up I also in addition think is going to be what's going to be looked at is um you know as you know we changed the age for kindergarten and uh some people are super happy about that some people are not so happy about that at all um but I think as a result of that we're going to have to take a look at child care issues and I know Child Care issues is is going to be big this session for many many reasons but I think it it's also going to be taken into consideration um because of the changing of the age of the kindergarten enrollment Lisa can I just add something about the kindergarden yeah I think it would be important for the the legislators to just take a stand um on that issue because even though it it it says uh and Mr Bishop correct me if I'm wrong a September one date um there is flexibility within that and it's putting parents and Guardians in a tough position and it's putting schools uh districts in a a tough position regarding waivers and you're you're getting different responses in in in different districts across the state some just coming out right out of the gate saying everybody's coming in some coming out um and I haven't heard this one but could say uh nobody's coming in um that doesn't meet the the waiver and then you're getting the the the ability of when do you bring a four-year-old into assess them um closer to when they're five or later in the year so I I I think there's got to be some piece and I don't know if that's going to be done in this session um that may be a larger discussion but I I I could appreciate that we went in um after the September one date um but realistically it just th through the ownership right on the districts and every district is doing um something a little bit different so I I I just think that that's something that I'm pretty confident that you're you're all going to hear during the the session is the kindergarten and and then the next one um is the reading legislation um that that just came out and relative to where Canton is on that we're actually excited we're we're our our waiver um wasn't accepted in in one area there were two areas that we were accepted in but our team's excited to do the work get their hands um really looking at what's uh best for our kids and what's best for our community um but I I I I think the the legislators have to look at it a little bit different um because it is math next it is science next is social studies next and the the the question that um I'm sure this board will have is where's the local control related to um curriculum and it reading was passed is math next um and there really needs to be some more guiding conversations with that because at times uh I felt in being in two districts over the course of the year I actually felt that the goal post were moving uh with um how the reading legislation was was put in so th those are uh two big ones and I know you mentioned the the kindergarten so I wanted to add the reading and and this board has been actively updated by our assistant superintendent where we are with the reading and we'll have a board member on our committee really looking at what's the best um program for the the cim public schools to you so thank you Senator I would also just add add to that um the right to read in terms of the waiver they did I was told that if you were denied any piece of your waiver that you should schedule a meeting with SD and sit down with them and have that conversation I was also recently U made aware that there are additional reading programs listed on the SD website I think they originally started with 12 I think there's 19 now um certainly I hear you on local control um I would pause it because you brought it up kindergarten age is local control that's that was why that was put in the way it was so that individual towns could make individual decisions and individual Boards of Education could perhaps look at what their capacity would be for accepting X number of children you know to move them up so to speak or to keep them where they needed to be um and is developmentally appropriate so that's that's the challenge at some point we had to change it 40 odd other states you know have have it that way I I will just tell you a personal story my birthday is September 7th the cut off in Virginia was August 31st they put me in with the two-year-olds and guess what I talked this much when I was that age so they immediately moved me with the three-y olds because my birthday was a week later so I mean I I think that that was part of that flexibility and local control that we were trying to put in there for towns and cities the other thing I would say um you know I know there is a lot of concern about what could be next and about especially unfunded mandates a mandate relief um again speaking to the chair you know some of the notes he sent me um there is going to be a mandate relief working group and that is to review recommended mandates that are unnecessary that need amendment that need to uh that maybe need to be provided less frequently Etc so there will be an opportunity and my understanding is everything is on the table so there will be an to provide feedback on all of that yeah so the kindergarten legislation I'm not going to disagree at all with what you said the the the piece that is difficult for the the district is how the legislation was written relative to the type of a assessment or um guidelines that that we are using that it says that the state should develop some CSD csde should develop something to guide um districts and that just didn't really happen at a level with the the the read to write the biggest concern that this board um has and this Administration has is is is not so much that it started with four or five programs and now it's grown to this many it's this could be a a $600,000 cost to the the the town of Canton and a $600,000 cost to the town C of Canton in the current budget is almost a 1.75 increase on top of what we already have and when we we did meet with the the state the we we got our letter on a Friday night I think we were meeting with the state on a a Monday or a Tuesday um and you know we just had some questions relative to we we we needed to move on and do what was best for our district but that $600,000 what I I did share with csde at that time was okay this is where we're going to have to move uh how much are we getting and Mr Bishop correct me if I'm wrong it's $50,000 towards professional development and professional learning that that that that's that's a tough one that this board's going to have to to sell to the community and the question that's going to come out from the community is well why do you need to do this and the answer by this board and this Administration is going to be well the it's a state mandate and it's a state Mandate of a a 600 00 for us it'll probably be about a $600,000 um cost yeah um rep cavos beat me to it in saying that uh I do agree with her that we did um pass the legislation with the idea of local control so um I agree with her there you seem to be um I have many many towns who are complaining to me about the right to read in the cost that is associated with it and some of the towns um are also coming to me saying that their Town um reading level is above what was required for this and that is why they are upset if if they feel if their students are performing and they are performing to what the expected level or above why should they be penalized and having it obviously what they're doing is working and is successful so why do they need to spend the money to um get a box program that's the other thing that I've heard too that this is like a boxed up program and it's all prepared with um very little um leeway for the teaching for the teachers so um I think that the right to read there there needs to be we need to further look at it at this point and and see if there's any adjustments that can be made um because I I do feel that it's a piece of legislation that is quite frankly costing many districts a lot of money and possibly unnecessarily and it's a piece of legislation that's with good intent right because for some districts it's really necessary um and that's the challenge and I think that it may even be one of the mandates that's examined by this mandate working group because I think that they're even think they're even talking about standing up like a committee that would look at legislation prior to being enacted and I wish that we already had that because that is where exactly somebody could have looked at this and said you know if it's this percentage of kids that aren't you know then this these districts should put this in place but if they're up here these districts don't need to do this so that that's the frustrating thing is because we know with good intent but it's the implementation and then the lack of funding that goes with that implementation that believe me when I say we hear you and it again that's another one we are hearing across the state it's not just here yeah so the the interesting thing about that legislation um Senator rep is is that you can correct me if I'm wrong the legislation really has nothing to do about data there there's no data there was no uh student achievement um relative to that legis legislation um it it it had nothing to do with if your district is performing at an 80% level or 90% level like many of the districts that didn't get the waiver are performing at an 80 or 90% so the legislation really had nothing to do with uh student performance it had to do with all kids need to to read and I I agree with that wholeheartedly um we when we met with the state it wasn't about um arguing or anything like that was about okay what are our next steps where do we need to go and can you help us fund um this changing can you help us work and make sure that we choose the the the best program for our kids but by my understanding um the leg legislation really has nothing to do with student achievement and that's not how um any District was scored relative to they um getting it so I want our board to uh understand that when we submitted the waiver it had nothing to do with uh student achievement it had to do with they assessed you on the program that you currently had um but they did not look at uh student achievement am I correct on that Mr Bishop yeah but thank you those are two hard questions and and I know you're getting hit all over the the the state and in your constituents with reading in kindergarten and unfunded mandates so Mr Jango I thank you for letting me uh jump in there on a couple of those because those are big ones from the superintendent's chair right you know when when you talk about um and I know you both mention it that you're hearing it across the state or you're hearing across your District what's it take to to get these things to change I mean h how does it how does it work legislatively I mean you both seem to be very much in favor and you want to help and support and why doesn't it happen faster if in fact others are feeling the same way Senator you want to go first or no no I'll let you take that one okay uh you know it it there's a couple reasons so first of all um you know obviously for years the state was in bad financial shape right so now we have more money and and that was one of the other things I was going to mention you know we secured an extra $150 million on top of the $90 million for the continuation of the ECS you know the education cost savings and that's 96% funded as of fiscal year 25 so like you know there is good news um there is good news that you know you'll be paying um I did go and look up the numbers today after I spoke with you um Jordan and the numbers are going to be um 52% of magnet tuition instead of what it used to be um so I think it's important that we you do see there is progress and we're making that progress the challenge is if we're not all sort of rowing the boat in the same direction ction and I think you can hear there's bipartisan agreement here right there's actually a lot of that with some of these things in the building that doesn't necessarily mean we get it done fast that's the challenge is that I think that had we looked at the bill and unfortunately I wish I was on education I'm not on education um it's not one of the Committees I serve on but I think that it would have been nice and I'm sure some people probably mentioned why aren't we tying this to data on these reading programs or why aren't we tying this to what existing student success is versus our students who maybe have more challenges um I think it's you know some of it is the process um in a short session I can guarantee you I hope we if we just accomplish getting the money secured that you were supposed to have that will be a huge win um SE change like we had in a long session last year where more got done in Education than has been done in probably a decade or more that's probably not going to happen you know it's bureaucracy it's which direction the boats getting Road it's a lot of those things sure um and I will say based on how many people are calling the chairs about right to read perhaps there will be something done sooner than later um because it it you know it's it's a cost that some towns just are gonna really struggle to bear I mean $600,000 is nothing to sneeze that right so um Senator I'm sure you have other thoughts as well um well I I I really do think that um sometimes it it also comes down to it sometimes it is bipartisan and I'll just be honest with you sometimes it it it comes down to as rep degra said that not everybody's rowing in the same D Direction This legislation was passed before I was there just so you know so I I was very concerned when it was passed that it it didn't take into account um you know looking at again student achievement and how the districts are meeting that and I I still I'm still hopeful that that will be taken into account and that because I think many many districts expected and anticipated that when they applied for that waiver that that was going to be taken into consideration and that they were going to be getting that waiver and that didn't happen and there are again many many districts with very high achieving students and I think very sound curriculums and um because it doesn't meet the quote unquote criteria that um was set out you know you you didn't get the waiver um so I'm still hopeful there's enough people again that are um concerned about this that are complaining about it so I'm still very hopeful that the chairs will listen and that and I think they agree I think they they feel they are concerned about it and they've heard enough about it not only from the legis the legislators on education but all the legislators and I think they're hearing it from their constituents as well because every one of their districts are getting whacked with unexpected um expenses that they didn't think they had and I will say that even if we do are not able to reverse policy we maybe can change policy or at the very least again pursue funding for towns because the unexpected hit of $600,000 I don't think was considered I don't think it was considered how much these programs might cost ultimately so so so along those lines and Kim suin raised a good question she she submitted to to me was um so we see we see these what's seems to be not even across the board or towns are being penalized what can individual board members or generally Boards of educations do other than to pick up the phone and harass you two to say come on we got to do better what what can we do where where can we go should we be uh you know at the capital is there chances for Testimony is there what what should we be doing to be more active proactive on the state level to try to fight for some of these things with you arm in-arm with you uh not certainly not against you so what would you recommend for us well and I I wouldn't even say not listen if if it's against that's okay too I mean I you know we're not gonna always be right either so I I I would say please come please testify or at least testify on Zoom submit written testimony if you're not comfortable testifying in person or on Zoom um definitely call us definitely pick up the phone make sure that you know you're reaching out to both of us because that's you know if you hear something at least if it's really bunk we can sort of say oh that's never going to happen or if it's something really critical we can say yeah we really need you to testify we want you there we we can certainly keep you AB breast or I can certainly keep you AB breast I am on the education committee I can keep you a breast and knowing that this is a concern of yours but you said something earlier that I just wanted to touch upon and you said what we what can we do other than harassing you I I can only speak for myself but I think cat rep de gr feels the same you're not harassing me this is what I was elected to do I represent you if if you have a concern you should certainly be coming to me and you should be coming to me over and over for whatever it is that you have take issue with because that's what I'm here for I'm here to represent you and and all of the towns that I represent so I don't I want you if I can leave you with anything don't ever think that you're harassing either one of us because I we I don't think either one of us take it that way no and I had a great conversation with Kim Sullivan for about 20 minutes get in the line at at Ulta right before the holidays about all kinds of stuff so I I mean the more you know call us it's I don't I don't think we neither of us look at it that way because if we didn't want to talk to you we wouldn't have run for office um and and we're you know we're not always going to agree on everything and that's okay too but I I certainly I I I think I can speak for both of us we take into account what our constituents what our elected officials in town said we we do take that into account and like I said doesn't mean we're going to agree 100% of the time but we are you know we do we have to look to you you're the experts on the town and and the and your board of bed I mean that that is where local control or whatever you want to call it that that does come into play because we are supposed to be there fighting for our TS so so Lisa Lisa I we we will take you if you wouldn't mind let us know when that education committee meeting we'll circulate it there maybe one or two of our members want to go and listen in at least and uh at least be there in support or or to voice our our our concern so that would be great if you could pass that on to me and I'll make sure it gets it's it's provided in our our monthly agenda when yeah I mean if if this is the issue if this issue is going to be heard and I can't guar but I can't guarantee you that it is but I can guarantee you that it will certainly be raised um to be heard uh and if there is a public uh hearing on it I will certainly make Canton aware of it and you and give you as much advanced notice as I can so that you can as you can testify either in person on Zoom or provide written testimony what whatever is most comfortable for you and just so you know the way our our system works when we have a public hearing you get five days notice and then the system closes at 3 o'clock pm the day before the hearing so you have to be signed up to testify by 3 pm the day before so that you can be heard the next day because it's you know say it's 10 o'clock the next day 11 o'clock the next day then you're assigned you know your number 10 to go speak now depending on how many agencies are speaking ahead of you that could mean you know everybody gets three minutes kind of like you gave three minutes tonight to Mr Lavery you know it's it's a three minute process and we can ask as many questions as we want um you know within reason um but sometimes you know if the commissioner of Education happens to be speaking that day they may take an hour because of all of our questions off of the top of the morning so it's not like oh you're number 10 you'll be 30 minutes in so just just to explain how that part of the process works the other thing is you can go to the CGA website and you can sign up for updates you know if you see a bill filed that you want to follow you can actually sign up so that way you're get you'll get emailed updates every time something changes with that bill U and that's that's an important part of the process too because bills change so dramatically from the time they are files and they're merely a title and a description until what we actually pass if it actually passes um there's some bills that I just automatically tell people that's never going to see the light of day so you don't need to get upset about that because you know thousands of bills are filed every year and we pass maybe 300 I'll just give you for my the committee that I chair Planning and Development I think we passed out 50 from committee but by the time the clock and everything else I think we passed we officially passed both houses and signed into legislation 10 bills and then there were maybe seven or eight Concepts that got tucked into other bills that got passed so just to give a more General Civics Lou I just want to add to that when I testified in the spring it was it was amazing to see that it wasn't limited to board members there was principales teachers superintendents language arts Consultants math coordinators so you know other districts are speaking up testifying advocating um from all over the all over the state so I don't you know I don't know how how Jordan feels about our teachers or language arts Consultants testifying but certainly that is going on thank you any any other board members just parents are also testifying and students by the way students come in and testify too and quite frankly they're usually very powerful just so you know and really smart uh board members any other questions for our reps Kim Erica I see a couple here Erica and then Joe I was just gonna ask um specifically about the excess cost um reimbursement what can individual board members do um in terms of advocating for it or right right because there's not a specific Bill where we can come and testify about it or anything so so there was last session um the bill that we passed basically held all districts harmless in terms of you won't see any less money than you were currently getting and you should be seeing more money than you were currently getting um I believe the amount that we are hoping the Canton will see is around $200,000 I think that was what was projected again that's something the chairs of of Education will be fighting for to make sure that those dollars actually go into effect um it will be 96% fully funded in in fiscal year 25 so you're welcome to send a a letter to the the chairs of of Education um and I would identify yourself as a board of AD member because I think that's important for them to see you know you're not technically their constituent but you could CC you know Senator seminara and myself um but you know there there could be a bill on ECS this year you know we don't know for sure so okay and the board chair is curry uh yes for the house side it's Curry and for the Senate side it is U mccy Doug mccy okay thank you and you you could also send in if if you have agreement amongst your board members you can send in a a letter or on behalf of your entire board so I I don't yeah yeah I'm just saying if if there's consensus and there's agreement and you're willing to do that um you can do that as well great Joe you had a question yes thank you both for being here appreciate it appreciate all you do for us uh and the additional ECS funding was was duly noted and it's been important to us as well uh the most uh important thing I heard tonight was the comment uh Alana you made about uh un unfunded mandates uh that they all or virtually all them they all sound great and they are great and they're all they all have a price tag uh a $600,000 price tag or a couple thousand price tag and maybe some of them have expired and and to uh to put that burden on local districts is really really difficult uh that that for example the additional ECS funding wouldn't two years of it wouldn't cover the new reading curriculum if we had to go that route uh so that that you're going to review all those maybe get rid of some and maybe consider more care carefully about the cost of them is really really important uh and probably something that should have been done a lot sooner just saying but we're here now we have to be grateful we're moving forward with the right thing so I just want you to know that unfortunately is not that report that uh it it's convening um 11 members of um it's an 11 member board and it's to to again look at mandates and review it's a working group to repeal or amend obsolete or dupli duplicative mandates but the report just so you know is not due until 1125 so I I just I don't want you to think that that report's coming out this session because it will not be we wouldn't want to rush into anything but at least it's progress in the right direction uh the uh uh just another quick comment regarding special education there have been study groups talking groups at the legislature uh for years uh because some of the issues are Universal funding surrounds them uh you mentioned Delani that you know we we get five youngsters move in that come with a half million dollar price take it's just not right uh that the funding ought to follow the student not become the burden of the of the town I don't know how to make that happen but that would seem to make more sense to me then there are out placements the uh regulations in the supervision of outplacement schools is lacking and I'm sure there are other special education issues do those task forces do they make reports is there any progress is it an unsolvable problem Senator I don't know specifically any task forces are you aware of anything recent that was done on special ed um I am not aware of anything recent that was done on Special Ed but I will tell you that I was at a meeting last night and someone asked if I would be willing to put forth legislation to to specifically look at outplacement and uh you know the cost of outplacement is excessive and could that at least be covered by the state if if they're not willing if we can't make the whole budget you know we can't make everything fully hole in the other way and I don't know how I feel about that I think that's kind of uh not the the direction in which I would like to go but I know that um a lot of people share your concern about the outplacement not only with the cost associated with it but um with the uh reciprocity between the district and the outplacement and the communication that that is between the two um in many situations districts feel like that is lacking and um so uh we might be taking a look at that in the future but as of right now I do not believe there is a a task force or a working group looking at special education I don't think it's unsolvable either and I think that you know conversations again that I've had with the chair because every sing single year that I've met with the Canton Board of Ed and the Avon Board of Ed they have brought up special education costs and so every year I go to him and I say when are we going to talk about special education and I think the plan was we need to figure out you know the I was actually surprised that excess cost sort of got taken care of somewhat last year and I think we'd be having a very different conversation if we were closer to 100% I mean that that was significant you know to have that Leap Forward frankly compared to previous years and again it's because we're in a better financial position than we previously have been but um you know I think the the desire to tackle that is there it's whether or not we do and again short session I hate to keep saying that if I had my way we would be a full-time legislature to be perfectly honest but there is a reality of a short session and having to follow the process of filing the bills having the public hearings going through the committee meetings and we all have very tight deadlines we start February 7th and my committee has to be finished by March 25th because we adjourn May 7th just to give you an idea of how fast this really goes in a short year so um My Hope Is maybe we tackle that in 25 um because it's really critical that we keep looking at that because you're right cost is way too high and those are private businesses that are doing a lot of that special education especially the out placements um and there there could be more oversite frankly that might be a but um but we hear you thank you any other questions from board members right now I I want to thank you both for spending the time and um I'm sorry we couldn't do this uh in in person it's always nice to see you and and um you know mingle a little bit but uh thank you for taking the time tonight and you will hear from us more often and thank you for that offer and uh you know you really do great work for us and I know it's a lot of time and we're very appreciative so thank you both thanks for having us yeah my pleasure and uh and again if I hear of something that through the education committee that I think directly affects you I certainly will reach out to you all and make you aware of it and and at the very least um encourage you to testify and and speak your peace thank you thank very much all right both you have a great evening you're welcome to stay as long as you'd like anyway further okay have a good evening thank you so much for having us good night bye bye uh next up on the on the agenda is the board of education budget Workshop Dr Gman thank you chair Daniels if we could um K if we could put up that uh slide deck so the community can see it and board members this was emailed to you you this afternoon and for anybody on the community in the community uh this is also on our website are you gonna put are you putting up the large Capital no she's putting up a a slide deck of the open Choice okay got it that you got it cure yep it's it's trying getting there it's trying to open give it one second here well I'm going to give it about 30 more seconds and I know all board members were asent this and I also know that it's on our uh website right and I very easily can talk to it okay so Ju Just A a reminder to the the Board of Education in the to the community that on December 12th I presented a forecasted budget to the board of education and to the town and a reminder that the the forecasted budget is not the final Administration budget it it's a budget at that moment in time with all the administrative requests and the department requests of where I was at that moment of time and then we did on December there we go on December 30th um I answered a whole bunch of questions uh to the board relative to questions that you had on the the forecasted budget and on January 9th um we asked for review of clarifications and then on January 9 I um January 9th I presented the open Choice budget to you which um I'll go over a little bit this evening and then on February 13th I'll be presenting the administrative Budget on February 27th we'll have a budget workshop on February 29th we'll have a budget workshop with a possible adoption of the board of education budget if we need more time the um we'll have another Board of workshop on March 5th with the board of education budget due to the board of finance of March 11th and then uh a budget the the budget presentation to the board of Finance on March 20th if we need to make any modifications to our budget the 26 will meet the board of finance will suggest revisions to the board of aded and then the annual budget hearing which was approved last night will actually be April 23rd and then the budget referendum will be May 9th so we have a very busy budget season as I've shared and we've been very transparent for the past few months with our budget process and once the Board of Education adopts their budget that's when we'll start going out into the community and sharing our budget through uh I I would recommend virtual meetings and some inperson meetings also the next slide just a reminder if you could go down here that this is um a chart of where we are where we were on December 8th and just a reminder if you take salaries Transportation health benefits liability oil natural gas and and electricity and contracted Services right out of the gate were a 4.20 above where we were last year you add in um special education at that moment in time it was 3.99 you take that's an 8.19 per increase right out of the the start of our budget and that's not including any of our dues supplies maintenance Furniture educational technology tech services and small Capital you add that in of what the administrators were giving me it's 3.54 and then that equals a 12.40 and just a reminder um we had some new staff that we answered at our our last meeting but then you look at the the bottom box what I really want to remind the board again is what I'm looking at is that the the the town will receive an increase of $398,000 in education cost share and what that was directed to do was it was directed to go right to the Board of Education even though it's Town Revenue it was directed to go to the Board of Education in the use of what we were using our our Esser funds for so that number that 398 if you remember from last time when I presented we actually having our budget that we're holding over that moved into our operational budget of over $300,000 so that's really an offset so we'll have to talk about that a little bit more and then the $850,000 for the the town re gets reimbursed for special education funds so if you take where we were that gives us when we're over in the right of 9.4 and then when you take away the 3.85 on December 8th I presented to you a 5.55 uh proposed budget forecast budget at that time I could tell you when I present to you on uh February 13th that that's not going to be my number we're still uh working on our budget um and I need to let you know there'll be some additions to the budget but there also will be some uh reductions uh to the budget so I look forward to explaining that to you on um February 13 the next slide if you go down regarding the open choice and the open Choice memo for all our community is on the the the website we'll be receiving 950 $50,000 for open Choice next year and um there were some questions relative to how some of our open Choice funds were being used the first question is how would the teacher minority recruitment work I want to remind everybody that the Connecticut teacher Residency program operated in partnership with CK it's focused on diversifying the teaching staff across the state of Connecticut the program partner with school districts in a grow their own model leading to Connecticut state certification the program works in support of legislative mandate Public Act 23-1 167 increasing educator diversity so this is really how it works the program works in conjunction with the district that Mr Bishop will form a team and people apply for the Connecticut teacher Residency program and Mr Bishop and his team will actually interview uh candidates and they will identify and support prospective candidates for parti for participation the program then supports the candidate in professional learning courses for 14 to 18 months while the candidate Works within the district so if you take a student teacher for example that's what it is so as someone is taking courses also within the C the Connecticut teacher Residency program they're also working in our district in one classroom it will be either at Cherrybrook or at kenon intermediate school and they're working in doing their student teaching the entire year candidates participate in depending on the program and work with their Mentor teachers for one school year receiving uh a a small pay um and benefits candidates are then eligible for a full-time teaching position in a partner District upon successful completion of program courses and certification checkpoints so after this person completes the year with us it is the goal that the second year of the program we will hire them as a teacher so what we anticipate is two years from now we do anticipate in elementary opening that the person that we are training for next year with our teachers within the Connecticut teaching Residency program would have a job for the 25 26 school year I'm going to stop right there because that's a big one if anybody has any questions board member questions okay the next one is a a lot of slides but I'm as you know I'm very transparent in in the the the budget process the question what was what would the technology funds be spent on so the following slid represent it items that will be paid for by the open Choice Grant totaling $533,000 so that's half of our open Choice funds is in dependent upon um technology is dependent upon half of our open Choice funds so you could see the the threat prevention that is our cyber security type of model Community messaging system copying support copying support electronic document archival system eate firewall keep going down Google for Education posting site for the arrow internet filter and annual renewal cyber security monitoring net watch printer support contract public performance movie site license School Erp support cost server battery cyber security training antivirus Solutions applicant uh tracking that's our Apple track Cloud hosting Library content management website curriculum support for teachers Mystery Science which I believe is educational technology freckles star smart and others Renaissance Learning that's some of our software ISL Learning Ally math data collection visualization for Bridges Microsoft licensing I know I'm going on and on but I I I want to answer the question Navan new news Ela paperless employee portal reading program Service Solutions science curriculum sixth grade math momx science simple video capture screen castify social Express cool school videos using animal characters Brain Pop we video cat laptop iPad for special ed students color laser printer with copying capacity monthly offline backups classroom techn technology staff and student desktop license server for the Wi-Fi network infrastructure firewall zero day threat prevention server infrastructure asset task for it equipment USB drive CD DVDs and Jewel cases Chromebook Parts classroom supplies desktop computers District badges for blanks District badges Inc stff laptop computer uh replacement student Chromebook that's AIG big one replacement for 99,000 smart score finale interact drawing math type mobile read right for Google backup software cyber security audit and compliance internet service providers earbuds for Smarter Balance earbuds for smarter balance for CIS and CMS infrastructure laptop office supplies tablet Replacements server desktop replacements for a total of $533,000 what you should be possibly thinking in your head right now is what I said is that if we didn't have open Choice funds all these things would have to be in the operational budget so that's important to know 533,000 that's about a 1.5% of our budget is earmarked for um technology so I know I had a board member that asked that I apologize for giving so much um but I wanted to make sure that I I was that we were clear in answering the the the board members question of what um technology funds would be spent on and and that's the entire list of what technology would be spent on using open Choice funds I'll answer any questions that you would like uh on that one any questions to the board I mean it's it's an extensive list who puts that together for you Jordan so Jeff deastro this is his budget so if he wanted to know what the technology budget is this is his budget and then with the help of Mrs mikowski she exported it out of um our vision software and and uh of course Mrs nardy put it in in nice slides for us and for the public um to view but as I said we could produce any line item of what's in the budget and what we're uh spending funds on um and I thought this was an important enough question to give you every dollar that that was in um that line item with open Choice funds I I think it's important for everybody to understand what we spend our open Choice funds on and that's about that's over 50 50% of what we spend our funds on have most of those dollars been expended I mean have we gotten these you know so much of this inventory well that's for next year this is for next this is next so I would suspect in last year's budget was fairly s it was it was did those dollars go out right almost right away or yeah so well we we don't receive open Choice funds um we receive open Choice funds Donna help me out here I think we receive open Choice funds two times a year one um in October and November and then one possibly in April or May okay great any questions about this how this all works the technology side poster by the way in April may say that again April May most most or April May yep so and then the the last slide those were the the the two questions that we had regarding o Open Choice um and I just wanted to to say that just reminder to all um board members that um you you received a really high level um forecast and memo back in in December and then we did the open choice and then I'll give you a um a real good administrative um Budget on February 13 that you you'll get um a presentation from me but you'll also get a a budget book that will have a lot of the materials that we discussed already but within that presentation my goal will be to share on three or four slides what is the difference between where I was was on December 12th and where I will be on February 13 I think it's important for you to understand um because there's definitely some things that have happened um additionally in in some of the things that we learned from December uh 12th to February 13th and and I had to make some uh adjustments so I I look forward to presenting to you on February 13th and having our budget um workshop and we did share this highlevel view with the the board of Finance last night great okay thank you Dr Gman okay uh we we move on to standing committee reports um nothing's really changed on finance Russell's way so we'll we'll let that go Joe you want to update on policy and what we're going to do at the next meeting sure quickly uh we didn't meet tonight it's it's a difficult work to do in a face- to-face meeting it's just it's too tedious to do in a a zoom meeting uh there are about half a dozen policies in the 4,000 series which is uh about personnel which we didn't get to we'll pick that up on February 13th and we'll start reviewing the 5,000 series which is a critical one as I put in an email to you after the last meeting because it deals with student policies so it's it mean all our policies are important these are probably the most important so I would ask the policies that you were assigned to uh please if you get your comments or questions to John H by the end of the month would be very helpful we we will not finish the 5,000 series at the next meeting but we should finish it in two meetings uh and John just a reminder uh we uh we didn't get minutes from last uh time's meeting so you know weever you can get to that I know it's only it's only been a couple of weeks and to the Mr Lavery and any else who's listening uh all of the proposed policies and current policies are on the school website and accessible to anybody in the public so there's no no secrets there and if we adopt uh new the drafting policies they'll all be provided to the public before we we vote on them right well thank you thank you Joe um I I meant to mention in my comments that I had lunch today with the uh chairman of the board of education for region 10 and uh we were talking about policy in they are they are mirroring us not on purpose but they they've chosen the same path that they are uh going to go and adopt the shipment policies uh probably about 85% of them they're going to just accept and 15% they're uh they're keeping and modifying in their own way and uh when I told them our method of going through this he said wow he said I don't think I could get our board members to read all those policies and I said well how do you how do you accept them if you haven't read them he says well he said that's what we're relying on shipment for so I said oh boy so they they flagged the ones that they wanted do uh to keep on their own so it was interesting thank you Joe thanks for that report Erica curriculum I think you meet tomorrow unless there's a delay I guess right yeah that's our plan um to meet tomorrow so I don't really have an update um until next meeting sure but um our plan is to discuss the kindergarten registration process and professional development and couple of other updates but I can share more at after our meeting so would you say if uh if tomorrow if there's a delayed opening if if we get that email then uh then curriculum is off for tomorrow correct yeah we decided um that I I think that's right Mr Bishop so we decided that we'd cancel it if there's a delay tomorrow and then we'll reschedule okay so anybody was planning just just FYI and then the the final is uh Communications and um Felicia do you want to give an update on that I know you guys are working on a is it a February um drop on that newsletter yes we don't have another update since the last board meeting but we I don't have the date in front of me but I think we'll have an update for the next meeting okay I think we meet right before our our next meeting we usually schedule our meeting uh the day the week before or a few days before so I'll have an update then great thank you thank you very much um calendar of events in in your uh board packet if you haven't printed it uh there's an updated of all the different uh meeting dates that are coming up in the next uh obviously the next board meeting and and all the budget workshops that are going on so I would just uh remind you to take a look at that Dr Gman is there anything you want to highlight there I know you did a few minutes ago but anything further that we need to know about no I think I think it says it all okay great um board member announcements anything the board wants to uh bring forward anything that we missed tonight or something that you saw or went to or you want to comment on I I I concur with uh I think it was Dr Gman that said that prism's on the 3 um we did we did submit a uh a basket no big deal but um that's a big fundraiser for everybody and hope you guys can make it and B on the baskets and and help the PTO the PTO is going to be at our next meeting with uh PTO update so and if you've never been to prisms it's really cool to work going okay uh board action items um is that a separate agenda item or is that uh well it's just uh it's the secretary um Kim I I don't think there were any action items uh tonight that no for for from tonight's meeting for us to uh to do uh the only thing that I um uh heard tonight um was Mr Daniels asked the the board to uh the administration and the committee chairs to look at our meeting minutes and make them a little bit more detailed so I I would say that that would be an an action item um that we want to look at okay so we move to the consent agenda uh and I'm looking for the uh for a motion that the board uh moveed that the camp board of education approved the consent agenda so approve which is the approval of the minutes of January 3rd through 24th and the minutes of the board walkth through of the special meeting on January 9th so can I have a motion to approve the uh consent agenda please thank you Felicia second thank you Erica first and second any questions on the consent agenda no now just just as a reminder I know we get these uh so the discussion that I would just mention I know we get these these uh these packets and the minutes are in there we and and I know that uh Claudia and Terry and Kim do a marvelous job but we're supposed to really proof those minutes so if you make sure you're reading the minutes and make sure they're accurate we have to rely on one another that those minutes are uh those are accurate so I have a first and second all those in favor I I one two three I think that's uh everybody what do we have one I three right four five six board members on yeah so six six okay thank you very much 60 all right um Dr Gman you want to give us the overview of the capital Improvement plan please yeah so um this was already presented to you um the the capital Improvement plan and if you recall from the capital Improvement plan when I presented in the forecasted budget um that if you remember I'm trying to forecast out five years out for planning purposes for the board planning purposes for the town and for the board of finance a reminder to the to the board that um we don't have Capital large Capital anything over $10,000 in our operational budget Capital within uh the the town of Canton it by Charter goes into the border of selectman budget so for next year our list totals 1,00 1 million excuse me1 m71 th000 included in that is the $500,000 of Portables modules that we got to work with the the board of Finance in the town of how that's going to work other than that um I just had a meeting the other day with uh Mr Skinner the town CEO and our director of facilities and our business official and our Director of Finance for the town to discuss the this list that uh we have put together and then the the CAO will put the list together of what they feel that could be put into the the the town budget so The The J the job of the Board of Education tonight is to um approve this list this is our um large Capital list and then um the the CAO will determine what is going to be put in h the the the town budget that's so so I I've had a problem with this method for a while I've talked to board of Finance members that we put together what our priorities are and then we we we allow and the way that the town Charter reads is that the board of Selectmen then will put forth a a CIP budget and they're responsible for and they'll tell us what what they feel like paying for so we're we're two-thirds of the budget but we may not be two-thirds of the CIP and and so that that's a problem and I think this is something that the board has to get behind it requires um it requires U Charter change and the way the charter change comes about is uh first of all there's a petition and then there's a vote and um I would really like to see after this budget's passed that I'd really like the board to get behind some type of Charter change that gives us better control of our own CIP and doesn't rely on the board on the board of Selectmen who by the way I think does a fabulous job but even with the arpa funds the arpa funds they they they were the gatekeeper on the arpa funds so we could put in what we wanted but the bo it was the board of Selectmen that decided what the Board of Education should get that's not the way it should be the tal shouldn't be wagging the dog here so I I would just like everybody to think about that I'm going to do a little bit more research on it but I'd really like to attack this problem going forward because I I don't see it as uh for whatever the past Charter revision committee saw to do this as a matter of fact back when I was a selectman the CIP L was was at the foot of the uh Board of Finance because they handled the pur strings they could tell you Board of Education what you could what what you can spend in Board of Selectmen what you can spend it shouldn't be the board of Selectmen taking that uh role on for uh for the Board of Education too so I I just mentioned that um so with that said need a a motion that the Canton Board of Education adopt the 2024 2025 Capital Improvement plan is presented by the superintended May the first Lou before you do that Jordan on the last page it says PPS $500 that can't be right thank you yeah it does Br classroom portable no windows no ventilation is the justification that must be 5,000 I bet you but actually it's oh I'm sorry it's actually uh in our small Capital plan I should have removed it from there so we'll take that one out all right the motion would read then uh that the move of the camp board of education adopted 2024 2025 Capital Improvement plan as amended correct may have the first thanks Joe second thanks Kim first and second any any discussion on that okay all those in favor that's six thank you very much pass okay the final the final piece and this won't take long uh I'd like a motion that the Canton Board of Education go on Executive session for the purposes of the superintendent of school's midyear valuation and we're inviting Dr Gman to attend and that will happen at um 8:35 p.m.
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2024-02-01 Honolulu County, HI YouTube / Hawai'i State Senate transcript source: youtube EDU Public Hearing 1-31-2024 · passage 2
in this room 229 and a public notice will be posted on the legislature's website I'd like to take this time to remind our testifiers that due to time restrictions on our hearings we will be limiting testimony to 1 minute per testifier per bill for people participating remotely please remain muted and video disabled until shortly before it is your turn to testify when I call your name unmute yourself and your time will begin after your minute is completed staff will mute you so that we can move this hearing along in an orderly and efficient matter thank you and with that I would like to welcome my committee members Vice chair Senator Kim Senator Troy Hashimoto and Senator forella members we are on item sb272 relating to education authorizes the Department of Health to require the Department of Education to report Corona virus disease 2019 potential outbreaks or other public health emergencies and related information in a manner most appropriate to public health and safety as determined by the Department of Health repeals the requirement to publish the report on the department of education's website and see to testify we have superintendent Hayashi please Aloha Cher kidani Vice chair Kim members of the committee Kei Hayashi superintendent testifying on behalf of the Department of Education the department stands on its written testimony in support of this measure thank you for the opportunity to testify thank you superintendent members any questions thank you next to testify Kenneth think director Department of Health you're not kenth good afternoon chair Vice chair members of the committee thank you for the opportunity I'm Sarah kemell here on behalf of Dr thinkink um I'm the state epidemiologist we stand on our written testimony in support of this measure and I will stand by for question thank you Sarah I'm not sure that everyone has read the testimony but if you have any questions let me know you can call her back do we have her testimony did you provide WR [Applause] testimony senator has a question I don't know if better you or superintendent but how many cases are we aware of the cases consistent decreasing um Senor I can get that information Dr Kim would you know if the current case load uh of Corona virus and I don't have the number for schools right here I could get it for you but um overall the case load has gone down in this last calendar year compared to the prior uh Senator um I'm being told that the daily average is about five cases about five cases so uh I guess the question is the necessity of the report um so from the do standpoint now we are really um working with doe when there is a potential outbreak situation so we no longer require each and every case to be reported to the um we aren't doing contact tracing of each case so the um reason that we were getting those reports before is now defunct so um we feel it is more appropriate for us to work with doe on potential outbreak detection and response okay and you support this superintendent so you support reporting how we we support um removing the requirement for us to report oh okay so this got it thank you thank you we do have um one person on Zoom to testify uh from the deputy uh attorney general and H Uchi and are person oh she jumped out of the [Laughter] TV good afternoon Cher kidani members and herui Department of the Attorney General um as we set forth in the testimony under this bill we see that there's a potential for the doe to be asked to provide what's called personally identifiable information under the family educational rights and Privacy Act um pursuant to furpa the doe must determine whether there's a health or safety e Mercy that warrants the release of personally identifiable information before it can provide that type of information so to avoid any potential fura violations we provided um suggested language in our testimony that we would recommend be added to the Bill thank you and members questions I'm not sure if was answered I still still on my pone um so you know for the reporting um still is it still going to be published on you guys website oh no um should this spill pass Senator that would not be a requirement yes but previously it was yes okay cuz then you can provide that cuz what they saying that they cannot find them on the link on doe page uh it it should be still there yeah the link should be there okay thank you thank you chair thank you questions of the superintendent members thank Youk members further questions questions okay we had someone on anybody else on Zoom to testify yes please come forward thank you chair and vice chair Angela Melody young testifying on behalf of cares um so this policy advises the school system to publish covid-19 related information as a collaboration of do and doe and it's good to get do and doe to sit at the table and to go over Health emergencies um we have a culture with the focus on working all day without rest or some people don't work at all so it's good to get to know health obesity awareness emergency preparedness nowadays there's so much information about mental illness smoking Vapes bullying how do you get it to the kids without without there being duplications in the research perhaps um this um committee can consider uh instead of do and doe rewriting the reports one can access the federal resources and you'll find the work is already accomplished um for example I can go down the list of what the federal websites provide CDC has basic information about heart disease foodborn illness environmental health growth charts interactive database tools smoking and tobacco um and some of the research is very relevant to students and CDC covers all diseases basically and CMS has emergency declarations such as National opiate crisis information thank you members questions thank you thank you any anyone else with wishing to testify on this matter member questions further questions I have a question question um superintendent are you currently is uh do we currently having the stats up on your website still yes we do okay so what is the average number now you said five five yes yes and that's been for the last October October through January chair okay so the last four months four months thank you thank you question um Department of Health what is the Department's position are you guys wishing the um Department of Education to continue posting this information or do you think that this pandemic is um not done but not necessarily to keep posting this information yeah thank you for the question while covid-19 is certainly not over um we are moving out of the pandemic phase into an endemic phase and we are aware that now many people may not even test when they have symptoms so to try to report each and every case that is reported to doe is really only reporting a subset of um people families that choose to report that to the doe so we do believe that that is no longer an effective way of tracking what's truly going on as far as covid incidents um so we don't recommend publishing those case numbers at at this point in time thank you for your testimony okay members if there's no questions no further questions we're going to move on to the next issue Senate Bill 2069 relating to the Department of Education appropriates funds to the Department of Education for the establishment of three full-time equivalent curriculum specialist two positions and 10 full-time equivalent FTE classroom leader POS teacher positions for K papahana kapuni schools K testifying is superintendent please my name is and I'm the director of The Office of wine education um the department stands in strong support of this request given um the growth that we've experienced within the line language immersion program over the last 10 years um we Advocate that additional classroom resources U be provided to our schools as well as um program staff to be able to continue to develop the supports that are necessary for um what happens in our schools I'll be available for questions um as needed thank you can you state your name again please you say Co is there anyone else here wishing to testify please come forward aloh my name is Kyle K Naka um I am a former Kaki teacher I was a kumu at kak an and k um I wanted to share my experiences to illustrate um the need for this bill this is my first time ever testifying at any State uh for any state bill but I thought that this was important enough that I should um while I was a casual h um part-time teacher at um I saw so many things that Illustrated the need for more kumu there I saw classrooms full of full of H 29 hanana full classroom was so full you could uh hardly fit students um as a science teacher the kumu there was responsible for teaching all four subjects in high school that's of biology physics chemistry uh plants and animals of a and for that kumu they bear so much of a burden to develop curriculum for all of those subjects um adding another kumu adding more kumu is something that would allow those H allow those kumu to be able to uh spend more time to develop curriculum to where in any other school they would have one kumu per subject in this school uh having in these schools the one kumu has to handle all four topics and this is something that would um allow them to have the time that they need to support our hamana uh similarly when I was a kumu at kamoko I was uh um was a first year kumu I was um in many ways needed a lot of help but at the same time the kumu were there to help me they were um they were also kumu they were teachers they were administrators who also had the same burdens that they had to bear I had to stop myself I mean I don't know if I should have but I did I didn't want to burden them more by asking for help so I didn't um and that put more responsibility on me the specialist positions that this bill asks for is something that would allow for um would allow for those kumu new kumu like me to get the help that they need for their uh to give the education their home on it deserve so all for your support of this bill um I'm sorry I'd also like to add by adding when I was at Anu most of our honic came from the West Coast by adding positions this allows us to add more sights so thatana don't have to wake up at 5:00 a.m.
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2024-02-01 Capitol Planning Region, CT YouTube / Video Storage transcript source: youtube BOE Meeting 1 23 24 · passage 2
May I have a motion thank you Felicia thank you Peggy any any conversation about that so all those in favor I okay it passes we will go off recording now Kira
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