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right any glasses good evening uh we'll call the regular meeting of the Board of Trustees to order at um 6:01 p.m. that clock is slow um we'll move to open session we'll start start with the flag salute trusty Jimenez would you like to lead us in flag salute please every ready please stand put your right hand over your hearts I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands a nation under God indivisible of liberty and justice for all thank you thank you for that trusty trusty hog can you please read the district mission statement of course barasa Union School District provides all students the skills to become lifelong Learners and successful 21st century Global Citizens thank you for that and trustee would can you help us with the Norms of the Board of Trustees yes the barasa Union School District Board of Trustees agreed to focus on the best interest of students at all times be respectful listen openly address problems and process not persons keep each other informed maintain confidentiality work toward the future learn from the past equal participation from all members and to stay on task thank you for that um and may have a motion to adopt the agenda I move to adopt the agenda second moved on seconded all those in favor say I I I I I thank you um agenda adopted 5 to zero um any public comments on the consent calendar agenda items there is none uh let's get may I have a motion to adopt the approve the consent calendar move to approve second moved and seconded all those in favor say I I hi hi consent calendar agenda items are approved 5 to zero I'll just go through this all right no comments from the public on non-agenda items either uh we move to superintendent report if you have anything Dr Fus yes thank you so much um good evening everyone I just want to um give my thanks and appreciation to all of our staff that are running our summer programs this year we have quite a quite a bit of students that are being engaged at maril Middle School at uh Northwood Elementary as well as at um Dr mccre I know Lane View Lane View and Lane view um each summer we have more and more children that are participating through our elot fund so we're really glad to be able to provide that service for them um but you know it is a quick turnaround to go from the close of school to the start of summer and so want to thank our summer co-principals as well as the classroom teachers and the support staff for making sure our students have a smooth transition into this next Extended Learning opportunity for them and again I just want to remind everyone in our community that our school consolidation um advisory committee continues to do work in that area we will have one final meeting tomorrow um that uh they will be reviewing educational programs that all of our school sites offer that meeting is held in our district boardroom it is open to the public if anyone would like to come and and observe the conversations that are occurring and then the committee will be going dark uh in July and they will um reestablish their their meeting schedule in August uh but definitely thank all of our parents and our staff that are part of that committee and they've been very dedicated to the process and have asked really good questions about you know our school facilities um and about you know continued work that our schools need and and really getting a good understanding of the declining enrollment and the impact that that has on um on expenditures but also on student learning programs and uh opportunities that we'd like to provide for our students and then finally I just want to wish everyone a wonderful summer I hope everyone has a good opportunity to rest and rejuvenate with their families thank you thank you for that Dr fenters um are there any comments or announcements from the board Miss Bo do you have anything just wishing everyone a safe and happy summer thank you for that um we'll move on to review and action uh item a is um A1 is under I'm sorry item a is Educational Services um number one is uh 20 2425 LC cap and other related items Dr fenes yes thank you so during our last meeting uh we had the opportunity to hear from Dr mccu and the Educational Service team about all of our goals and objectives that are outlined in our lcap it also demonstrates um all of actions that we plan to pursue over this next coming year um and the resources that have been allocated for those action items as a result um it is recommended the board approves the local control and accountability plan our elcap federal addendum and the budget overview guide for our parents for the 2425 school year thank you for that are there any questions from the board if not I'll entertain a motion to for appr it's been moved and seconded all those in favor say I I I I I motion carries 5 to Zer thank you for that um next item under Business Services uh number one is um is 20 2024 25 budget adoption Dr fenes thank you um for this item we also had a presentation at last meeting but we had some technical difficulties so we'd like to again provide our community another opportunity to learn more about our budget and our current position with this um with with all the different impacts we've had with State funding this this past year um after the presentation it is recommended the board adopt the 2425 budget as presented and direct staff to submit the state to the state the prescribed forms and criteria and standards to the county superintendent of schools and so with that I'd like to invite Kevin Franklin our assistant superintendent of Business Services uh to provide his presentation all right good evening so I'm here once again to go over the presentation as Dr fenta has mentioned that um I went over last time so that's why the the date still reflects the last uh special board meeting date because this was um this is just kind of a a review again of of what was previously uh presented so so getting to um you know what is now outdated the governors May revise there's subsequently been um you know a legislative proposal for the budget and then a budget agreement that was reached over this past weekend with the governor the budget hasn't been signed yet um but we do kind of know what the parameters of of everything that was agreed to and it's very similar to what was in the May revision so um I'll just kind of give um a couple of those updates as we go through the slides as to some of those changes might be but really all of the changes that um came in the governor's budget agreement um that he will be signing later this week um really all happened outside of education and on the other part of the state budget impacting other areas of U you know state funded programs um so nothing really changed on the education side so I'll I'll just point out a couple of the little differences so the biggest change um from January to uh May and now subsequently June is um the cola of 1.07% for education and for the state so um that's a statutorily um calculated number but if you remember back in January that Cola was at 3.76% so that's a significant change for a district like ours that's a significant um impact to our projected revenues not only for um the this upcoming year but then there were also adjustments to the cola and the two out years of the budget as well they weren't as significant as this um three you know 3.77% uh reduction um or 2.7% sorry reduction but it's still um enough where it makes a significant impact to our budget and multi-year projection so um the way that the governor was proposing to deal with this um significant decline in state revenues um was mainly like I just mentioned on the non-rop 98 side of the budget so you know to different Health and Human Services some of the other um programs like that are being impacted outside of of education so that actually um came to fruition in the governor's budget agreement there um are very minimal Cuts he's actually maintaining um what's um constitutionally um supposed to be provided um within prop 98 so um that's good um but you know we're going to feel the impacts of that elsewhere uh within the state the one positive is that I did see uh just this morning that state revenues are coming in slightly higher than the governor projected uh for this um current period so um that's a positive note they're not coming in significantly higher but they're still coming in uh slightly higher than what was projected so any of that type of uh increased Revenue at the state level is going to be a good thing for um for our budget so the budget problem was mainly because of um a spike in uh capital gains from pandemic and so we still have an upward Trend um within the economy so they don't predict uh recession they still are predicting economic growth just not as significant of growth that we saw in the past couple of years because of the pandemic so um when you look at everything you know we usually have a pretty steady growth and we've actually had a really long period uh historically long period of growth um you know with the state economy um that they're not projecting recession and it's not actually recession just because the revenues went back down it's just normalizing and then continuing on at the same um at the same trajectory so um a lot of what impacted those um those revenues were the delay in tax filings for the state and at the federal level so the federal government if you remember extended the tax deadlines for um the past two years um to October so instead of the state knowing in April what its revenues would be for the upcoming fiscal year we had to wait till October and that was all based on projections so a lot of what happened is a lot of the projected revenues didn't materialize and so that's why we have this significant um decrease uh especially from January till now so um that was the biggest impact um so that's where that's where we had this huge you know budget deficit that they keep talking about so um there was a$ 32 billion short fall um in 2023 um as a result of of these decreases in revenues so that's a huge um a huge decrease January budget then projected another 37.9 billion uh shortfall so you know this is these numbers are just getting extremely large especially when you go back to the days not more than you know 10 years ago or so in the state budget was um you know about twice of what the shortfall is I mean everything has significantly grown over the past uh five or six years A lot of it aided by the pandemic but a lot of the project um a lot of what the proposed Solutions um were going to be for the 2425 budget year for the state were um spending down reserves they were um doing fund shifts and doing uh deferrals so in the budget agreement for 2425 at the state level there's there still are some deferrals but they're very small they very minimal and the impact um is not even going to impact our um our operations here within the school district there will be some deferrals but they deferrals um over a short time period um so they won't really impact our cash so um the state looks like they're having some what in their eyes is some long-term uh longer term solutions to uh to the state budget deficit but again all of it is is all predicated on the economy still continuing this upward growth so if there's any slowdown any of those revenues that I just mentioned of having that slight increase from what the governor's projecting you know it'll really impact all of these um mitigating factors that they're using in the budget to balance out the state budget so these are the 2425 funding factors um based on school Services of California and calculated by the state so as I mentioned 1.07% Cola is then applied to all of the 232 four base grants so you can see that increase it's about $110 on average uh increase for the grade levels that uh we serve we service here in the district um and then you can see how that also impacts the 20% supplemental Grant add-on we do not qualify for the 65% concentration Grant that's for um unduplicated counts over uh over 55% so um we don't we don't qualify for those dollars so really you're looking at at um everything but the bottom line of that chart um this is the school Services dartboard so the two out-year colas in 2526 and 2627 go up to 2.93% and 3.08 both of those are down by either a quarter percent to a half a percent from what was projected back in January so again not as significant of a decrease but still a decrease uh overall that impacts uh are funding over a multi-year projection the other thing to take note of on this chart is uh right below that with the calsters and Calpers employer contribution rates So Cal stirs is staying constant at 19.10% but you can see calers which is our classified staff's retirement fund is still continuing to grow over the next number of years so um increasing this year from 26.68% to 27.05.2012 % in 2627 unemployment insurance um is 05% that actually had gone up significantly during the pandemic and um made a few hundred, impact to our budget um back then but is sub subsequently gone down so this is back at the normal rate so we're kind of seeing those type of things return back to normal Statewide average Reserve levels this is a slide that I have um every year so you can see on that middle um part of the chart Elementary School Districts uh such as ours um how The the Reserve levels have grown over the past number of years uh most of it was due to the pandemic that's why you saw some of the big growth because in 2021 that's when we got a lot of the first um rounds of covid funding those sat on the unrestricted side of the budget even though they were restricted in nature and so a lot of districts then saw a rise in their reserves and then now you're seeing a little bit of a spin down over 21 22 and 22 23 but still at 25% and we're sitting around six or so percent this year and then going down to the 3% level for 2425 and Beyond so significantly below the Statewide average um but again when looking at the Statewide average taking into account districts that are um you know all over the state having different um demographic factors than we have and and the high pressures of cost of living and things of that nature so the impact of covid on the multi-year projections so one of the main things that's been seen during the um pandemic and coming out of the pandemic is the drop in 88 percentage um amongst um all of our grade spans and so you can see the 88 to enrollment ratios and how those have changed from 1920 which was pre- pandemic to 2223 so TK to three dropping by you know 3.6 or 3.7% that's significant all of them Dro by about you know two to three% across all grade spans and so for a district like ours historically we've been around 96 and a half to 97% Ada to enrollment and now we're at about 94 and a half um just depending um but that's the the percentage that we're using right now um in our rejections because that's pretty much what we've had the past two years so you know we had one year during the pandemic when we had the um the distance learning that we were doing so attendance was High um that kind of helped buoy us a little bit but um but once we've returned to school what we've seen is we've seen some pretty significant declines um in percentage but the one thing to take note of is that on average with the um across the state you see that the average is about 92 and a half% we're a couple of percentage points over that so we're doing really well with our attendance compared to the state average but just historically within this community um we're about 3% under um kind of following the same Trend throughout the state here's the Statewide Ada enrollment percentages and funded adaas by year you can see the the spike in funded Ada in 2223 was due to the hold harmless um that we all had so you know this the enrollment in California is declining and so we were held harmless on our Ada for a year and so um having higher Ada levels enrollments going down our Ada was actually funded at at very high levels I believe our Ada was actually funded over what our enrollment was for one particular year I think in 2022 actually but um but that's why you see that Spike and then you see it going going down because um because of that the other thing that was implemented was we went from um Ada funding being at the higher of your prior year Ada or current year Ada and being funded based on whichever of those figures was higher to a three-year rolling average three-year prior year Rolling average Ada versus current year so you take your last three years figure out that average and you're funded on either the higher of that or for the current year Ada so the three-year rolling average was to help the help mitigate that big decrease in um in declining enrollment but again um all the Ada protections from being held harmless have fallen off and so now those 92 and a half% um enrollment or uh 88 percentage figures are kind of now the norm and so you have a big drop in uh funded 88 so that's why you see that um on that graph going down so steep um pension costs I mentioned this earlier on the previous slide this is just historically um where the pension costs have been and where they are now and so over the past 10 years and um and even prior on the calper side Calpers was even lower um prior to 20145 it was I think down around 9% but over the past 10 years you can see how much um the pension contributions have grown own so over 10% on the calster side which is for all of our certificated staff and then you can see on the on the classified side we're looking at 15% and more as we uh move out into the future in our contribution and so what's happened is the the uh employee contribution has remained the same but the employer contribution has increased so um all of the increased pension costs are passed along to the employer not on to the employee so how does all of that impact um bar s so I'm going to go over the revenues and expenditures for the next three years the enrollment and Ada and then what the miip looks like so in our proposed budget for 2425 we're using an enrollment of 63 that's a slight decrease uh in enrollment for from this year we're at about 6,040 in this year um after doing a review of enrollment over the past couple of weeks um our enrollment is looking pretty strong um not to the point where we can say that we're going to be higher than what this projection is but it's looking um pretty good especially at the lower levels um TK and Kinder especially we have some really strong numbers compared to where we typically are by the end of June as far as enrollment goes from what we've projected to who's actually enrolled so that's a really good sign so um when we come back uh to school in August we'll be real telling as to whether or not these figures will be revised at first interim and looking at a higher you know potentially a higher enrollment number than what was projected and then of course whatever the Ada is um when our students return but right now um the funded Ada is 5,825 that's a three-year average of our prior year Ada and so um you know any increase in enrollment doesn't necessarily lead to an increase in revenue for 2425 because we're we're being funded on the prior Year's three-year average so the way that we would receive more Revenue in 2425 for an increase in enrollment would be if our 88 percentage is high enough to have the Ada higher than 5,825 so to achieve that based on that enrollment number we would have to be over or around 90 close to 97% attendance Okay so that would be the only way that we would generate more Revenue in the current year now that would increased enrollment of course then would impact the future years because then we're using that three-year average Ada which then is using higher numbers because our enrollment has gone up from what we've projected so so hopefully that makes sense um again 1.07% Cola and then this bottom figure of unduplicated pupil percentage so 42.6 s% that's another area where it's impacting our revenues um historically our our District's been at about 45% um that's also a three-year rolling average um of our unduplicated count and so um what we've seen coming out of the pandemic is we've seen our unduplicated percentage drop and it's pretty much at about that 42 and a half percent figure and you'll see that um goes out throughout our myp so um we kind of Hold Steady at that percentage and and what it is is that it's not on the free and reduced lunch side of that calculation it's on the English learner side so we're having less English Learners and um so even though we have an increase by I think three or four percentage points on our free and reduced lunch um students we've had a drop on the El side and so the unduplicated percentage has then dropped even though the free and reduced is going up so so wanted to point that out that hadn't been um something that we had seen in the past but now that's starting to become the reality and so that's now built into our projections we thought that with the increase in free reduce that we would see an increase in UND duplicated count uh but that's not what we're what we're seeing question um just on that uh complicated Ada calculation that you describ I was wondering if it would it would be beneficial to have a you know pictoral representation of how it how it's actually done like a what if like or just actual calculation of what uh like how the moving averages work just just uh maybe realistic data from what what our attendance is and how it looks in a tabular format or whatever it is maybe we can supplement that uh to these slides and when we post it we can put that into the first interim presentation we can put in a snapshot like from our our calculator that shows the different averages um for lcff we can definitely do that because it's it's Ada is I mean like we understood it's critical it's very crucial and you know we need to find a way to increase focus on that part so parents and Community knows that you know this is an important thing it affects everybody um so it it needs to be you know highlighted as much as possible and if we can make it if we can make it simpler um sure for anybody to understand okay yeah we can at doing that thank you okay so this is the calculation of our lcff funding across the grade span so this comes straight out of our lcff calculator um that we use so you can see how how the um ada8 projections um then flow through and what the funded Ada is at each of the grade spans and then how that calculates out to our total funding of 69.2 million there at the bottom so these are the general fund revenues for 2425 just in a chart format um to to help make it easier to kind of see where those revenues are coming from so you can see the bulk of the revenues are coming from our lcff funding uh from the previous slide at a little over $69 million we have total revenues of 88.7 million so that's quite a bit lower than what we've been receiving in the past so um over the past couple of years we've had a lot of influx in one-time dollars that we've received and a lot of those are are now um expired or they're going away and they're coming to an end so we don't see um the revenues at that hundred million do level like we have in the past so that's reflective of that we get about $2.7 million in federal revenue we still have some other state revenue of 11.3 that's inclusive of like our elop programs that Dr Fuentes mentioned in her report um serving our kids over the summer after school during intercession um and then we have other local revenues of about $5.3 million and that's through a lot of site donations and and other funds that we receive um outside of both state and federal dollars so the total expenditures on the other hand are still at about 99.5 million and so because this is inclusive of both sides of the general fund both uh unrestricted and restricted um we do have some some planed deficit spending on those onetime dollars so we've received them in the past we need to spend them so of course that's going to lead to spending more than the revenues that we're bringing in for 2425 but again those those dollars are coming to an end so the corresponding expenditures for those um for those revenues need to also uh come to an end um so you can see a little less than half of the the expenditures are for certificated salaries that's the big blue on the right hand side of 43 million um classified salaries of 13.8 million and then that big gr um piece of the pie is benefits so um salary and benefits make up a considerable portion of the budget it's close to 90% of the budget you can see we spend a little bit on uh supplies at 1.6 million services and other operating expenses of 11.7 million which is inclusive of all of our utilities and things like that so it's not just contracts it's a lot of those other just required um costs that we have um and then no Capital outlay most of our capital outlay is coming through the bond program so um taking a look at that um you know 90% or close to 90% I think it's about 88% of the expenditures are uh salary and benefits that's within kind of the that's on the high end of of what you typically see within a school district um however the thing to make note of and I think I mentioned this last time is that um it's really taken a look at what's the um percentage of expenditures for your salaries and benefits as compared to the revenues that you bring in and so compared to the revenues that we bring in it's like 98 and a half percent of our revenues go towards salary and benefits and so that's why we have the structural deficit that we're needing to address um so just want to make sure to point that out so this is the proposed budget um broken down between unrestricted restricted and combined and so you can see um the total revenues on the unrestricted side of 74.6 million um even though there's 63 million in expenditures what we have to do is we contribute um to our restricted programs which is um special education and routine restricted maintenance routine restrictive maintenance you'll see on the future slide is a requirement of 2% of our expenditures have to go to um restricted maintenance and so that's what those transfers out are um leaving a fund balance of 626,000 Dollar on the unrestricted side of the general fund um and we have two million in restricted balances left and that's in some of those um one-time funds in our federal programs general fund deficit spending so we've been deficit spending over the past number of years um and so this is just a history of that um kind of bouncing between a low of $1.5 million in deficit spending to 4.9 million in deficit spending a couple of years back um this current year that we're going into has a deficit spend of zero however um we are utilizing some funds from fun 40 to to utilize for um some restricted expenditures on the main inside of the house to help offset and um get that to a a balanced budget but that's you know that just gives us a little bit more time to help address some of these um expenditure reductions that we need to make um and gives us time to make that plan so we have the school consolidation committee um that's working through a lot of that too that's going to address a lot of that in the two out years so these are the contributions that I just mentioned um that make up the $16 million 13.7 million is going towards uh supporting our special education program and then 2.3 million um for the uh routine restricted maintenance I think I said 2% before but it's a 3% contribution and then this is um the general fund contribution for special education um going back over the past 10 years so um in 1516 we're at about 5.9 million in contribution for special education uh with this next year being at about 13.7 million so there's a few things that that um impact that some of the raises some of the costs of benefits special education program in and of itself is just growing it's it's not exclusive to Bera it's it's kind of it's a a state and National um um you know thing that's going on where um just there's just more students qualifying for special education and so costs are going to naturally go up it's a essentially unfunded uh program we get only a couple of million dollars in total for special education funding um and then I think previously had mentioned that for our special education preschool program which is continuing to grow as well um we only receive about $350,000 or so for those special education students which pays for essentially uh classroom in a half um but we have significantly more than more students than that uh to service so um really a lot of that's due to unfunded programs we had the drop in 2122 um mainly in uh due to the fact that um the pandemic kind of shut down schools we weren't providing services for a a a certain uh number of months and then when we resumed we did increase those but then we also had some onetime covid relief funds that were're able to utilize to fund some of the special education staff so that's why you see kind of a a little bit of a decrease there for that year and then it it ticked back up as we um had to start moving those expenditures back into the general fund this is our enrollment over the past couple of years and then what's projected over the next um two years in the multi-year projection so we go from a total enrollment of 63 in this upcoming year to 5858 in 2526 and 5,649 in 2627 so um we had that little bit of an increase in enrollment this year mainly due to TK and then we're projecting a slight decrease in um this upcoming year and then back to the same kind of decreases we were um seeing over the past uh 10 years or so not quite as significant but still following the um the trend that we saw in Tom Williams presentation a few months ago um we're down to 5,649 and then continuing to decrease subsequent to that then um you can see on the next couple of lines our total unduplicated pupil count and so that's that percentage and calculation that I had mentioned before you can see the number of students um there is going down as well um and so that's also leading to a loss in uh in Revenue in the future years and then on the very bottom line you can see that as a percentage and you can see how um the unduplicated puil count has been changing over the past three years we were at 46.5 8% in 2122 and then in the current year we're at 42.4% so 4% drop over the past two years in our unduplicated count leading to that uh rolling average going down to 42 and a half percent that you can see kind of goes out over the next two years this is our enrollment history um so just a a graph version of what was just presented you know back in 1314 we were just under 8,000 students you know and now we're we're sitting at right around 6,000 students so 2,000 student drop within 10 years is pretty significant um a pretty significant decline this is a um comparison of our actual Ada and funded Ada so um just showing the difference between you know our one-year Ada versus what we're funded at which includes that three-year rolling average and then um when you look at 2122 um that hold harmless Ada that I had been talking about so that hold harmless Ada was at 6,668 because our enrollment was over 7,000 um in 1920 so uh we had a much higher um Ada back then and so that really helped us out um to get through the pandemic but now you can see that those numbers are now falling off the calculation because of the the actual Ada that you're seeing being used for the calculation so you know we're using 6,103 5,661 which is a 500 um 88 difference almost um and then 5739 we had a little bit of an uptick in Ada for 2324 due to that increased enrollment and then 2425 um we're continuing to go back down slightly and then um projecting out in the future over at that 94 a half% level so if we see that our our Ada is trending up um as we get into the first interim then we'll go ahead and start to adjust those numbers we'll be a little bit more conservative just because we don't know how attendance will Trend um post first interim because first interim is everything through October 31st so it's kind of right at the beginning of school a lot of kids excited to come back to school but then what we see is a lot of sickness around the holidays so you know even if we start out with a really strong 88 percentage we have to still be careful um and not include that in our projections moving forward um until we kind of get through the holidays and get to the second in R and know how that's really projecting and what we had seen in the past was we used to see this u-shape with our attendance um where we start out really high August September October start to go down um November December January and then we come back up as we came into the spring what happened this year was we had that dip and we never recovered and so that's reflected in our multi-year projection because we had because the past couple of years we've had that recovery and we've raised that attendance percentage as we get got into the spring and did our uh P2 submission for our 88 percentage that didn't happen and it and it and we had just a a flat and continue or continued decrease in our 88% and so that's really impacted the current year Ada which then impacts the two future year Ada and so that we had to adjust When developing this budget because um we didn't have that attendance rebound like we had had in the past so assumptions for 2526 and 2627 the unrestricted fund balance when including fund 17 which is a Special Reserve fund that's also counted towards our reserve requirement we have 2.9 Million and we also have 3.5 million in 2627 because we have a little bit of positive growth in our fund balance on the unrestricted side and that year as we um take the school consolidation proposals into effect and into account in those um scenarios so those are included in the two out years this is our enrollment projection and Ada projection funded 88 projections for the two out years um we also are using the cola as rejected we all know that the cola fluctuates so even between January and now we had a significant drop those numbers for Cola can um quickly change as we've seen especially when you're talking about a year from now and two years from now so um we continue to Monitor and update those as we go along and then then duplicated percentage at the 42% level so what we typically have built into our expenditures is we have um uh in increases for step and column adjustments so usually we project that to be about 1 and a half% for all of our staff uh because they are on salary schedule so we build that into our projections as well and then we have our FTE reduction estimates based on school consolidation and declining enrollment built in at 4.9 million in 2526 because that's when the bulk of that work is going to happen and then in 2627 that's mainly um FTE reductions based on that declining enrollment that uh we saw there uh on the previous slide this is our multi-year uh projection and it includes our estimated actuals for 23 24 um you can see we're still um deficit spending overall within the general fund as I mentioned that's all on the restricted side of the budget um and so this is just kind of summing up what I had on those past two slides and we do meet our 3% this is the slide that I introduced I think last year the cola versus our actual Revenue um increase in this in this uh particular instance it's not an increase it's a decrease so even though we have a 1.07% cola uh our lcff Revenue um calculation and this doesn't include the add-on in the supplemental that's why it doesn't match the slide from earlier this is just taking the grade span um calculations but when you take a look at that the actual um it's actually a decrease from this year to next because we do have declining enrollment and so we actually see our funding go down from 61.7 million to 5928 million so a decrease of 3.93% so remember this slide last year we had this big 8% Cola um and so everybody assumes 8% Cola cool we're going to get 8% increase to our revenues it actually translated into um less than a 3% increase and uh revenues even with the 8% Cola so this is the calculation for this year 1.07% Cola we're actually getting an almost 4% decrease in lcff revenues hopefully that makes sense the differences between the second interim and the budget so I've tried to kind of explain some of these as we've kind of gone along um with some of the the changes to our Ada calculations and our Ada percentages that we've been using um we've had to adjust those and so that's impacted this uh 2425 budget because that was uh one of the two out years on our multi-year projection um we've also had um you know we have we had revenues built in for leasing out the old um district office property that we have not um yet leased out we've had some interest in it but um that hasn't come to fruition so that's had to be adjusted that's also been adjusted within the budget um the other things that were um taking into account now are um are some of the the increases in utility costs that we've in incurred and then had to um factor in at and staying at that level and increasing uh PG especially um that was why it was important with the project that Tony brought forward um we're going to be installing some more solar to help save some some money um and we're doing some other projects to help mitigate some of those increased cost and utilities another thing that really impacted us was um in the elop program so in the elop program it's based on your unduplicated uh percentage so not only did the state not have as much elop dollars to allocate out for um for 23 24 are unduplicated percentage dropped so you see it dropped from the 44% to the 42 and a half percent so our elop dollars dropped um and then the allocation just per student was significantly decreased and so it impacted Us by almost $900,000 for 2324 those were dollars that we thought we were going to be receiving for our elot programs that were turning out to not receive that we then have to um supplement with our general funds so um we may get some of that back we haven't built that into the budget but um essentially what CDE um has done and what uh the governor has done is he's trying to normalize that calculation there's two tier of school districts um as far as elop the elop calculation is concerned there's tier one districts where are high unduplicated count districts and then tier two districts which are the lower unduplicated count districts so basically it's the difference between those that receive concentration grant funding and those that don't we don't receive concentration grant funding and we're not really close to it so um what happened is the tier one school districts receive a much higher rate for elop and they were allocated all of these dollars the thing that happened is that a lot of those school districts didn't spend all of that money so he had certain number of years to spend um the elop dollars for each year and so what the governor decided to do is he said he's going to end up um having CDE capture all the expenditures for elop from all districts by September 30th and then he's going to um sweep all of the unused elop dollars from tier one and real those dollars to the tier 2 districts so um so there's a chance that that $900,000 approximately that we lost this year that we may recoup some of those but there's not a way right now that we can figure that out about how much that'll be until they actually sweep those dollars in a couple of months so the last I heard was that we'll have um hopefully some projections around January February and that we'll receive those dollars by the spring so hopefully we'll get some of that back to help suppl supplement our programs but um uh that was a a huge area that that uh we saw significant decrease in revenues that we had been counting on for our students um the other thing that we've had is we've had a significant increase in liability um insurance and so um One update that I have from when I gave this presentation from before was that um I think in 201920 our um liability insurance overall was around 450,000 it's now sitting around 1.2 million it's gone up a significant amount over the past five years um and year-over-year um our uh increase was about 10% uh for 2425 and our jpa overall was a little bit less than that I think it was around eight% but the interesting thing was that our um insurance provider that we work with as a jpa mentioned that that's actually the lowest percentage increase that he's seen across all the jpas that provide Insurance in the state so um it feels like it was a lot in a high increase but Statewide um others are in much worse shape so the jpa that we're a part of is actually doing a really good job at helping keep those costs down um and then one of the other um major increases and for us it's to the tune of a few hundred, dollar that that we had had no way to prepare for um to know that we're going to get built for it though is through um self so self is the insurance group that funds us over and above our $5 million limit liability limit with our jpa and they fund us for liability up to $55 million self provides that supplemental insurance to every school district in California with the exception of La unified so what self has had to do because of the ab218 um claims where you can go back and and Sue um school districts and sue you know any Organization for sexual assault or any of those type of claims um school districts have um been getting um hit with those lwuit suits and a lot of the school districts are covered by self self has had to make a lot of these um payouts on these claims and so what we've got now is self is kind of going back historically and doing a true up of their insurance and their billing all of us um and so for us I think it's um it's around $300,000 we just recently got our our last um our our bill um but that was something that we didn't know was going to happen came because of Chang in legislation from a couple of years ago and so they're an insurance company that of course has to recover costs to help pay for these lawsuits that um they're having to pay out so so that was another significant um factor that has has increased a lot of our um expenditures above and beyond what we had thought so you know when you looked at that services and operating expenditures um line item you know there's almost $2 million of that $1 million that are just for liability alone so it's a pretty significant um cost for school districts right now so those are kind of um some of the main differences that we've had to had to build in so um so what's next um first bullet already happened legislature came up with their their budget plan they proposed it to the governor by the June 15th deadline they had been negotiating that they came to an agreement over the weekend um again they haven't signed off on that um but there's there's not many significant changes um the governor fully funded prop 98 he fully funded the cola uh I can't really think of many others that really um impact us this year there's some delays in some of his proposals there's some Ada mitigation that the governor um wants to implement in 2526 when it comes to uh Ada recovery um there's some changes to independent study that he's making um to implement for this upcoming year for 242 um not having a minimum number of days for short-term independent study for instance um and just having one um kind of lump together short-term long-term independent study program um so we're gonna have to see what the details of those are and and figure out how to implement that um as a district to help with our Ada but um you know it's it's too tough to comment on his future Ada plans because there's no details to his proposal so he has a proposal where you can provide a a program similar to Saturday school but you could do it in 15 minute increments after school before school um during inter sessions but how that's going to work and how you recoup those funds um all that's being delayed till 2526 so that was in his proposal he wanted to have it implemented um in 2425 but um he's decided to wait to help um get some of those details together so that uh districts aren't just trying to figure it out as we go along uh with these new requirements so the governor should be signing off on the budget officially um later this week and then as Dr Fint has mentioned School consolidation advisory committee is continuing to meet we have a meeting tomorrow evening at uh 6 PM um it's from 600 to 8: pm and then um the next one after that is scheduled currently for August 15 I believe the committee is um going to discuss whether or not that date changes to the week prior but right now it's uh scheduled for the 15th any other questions about uh the budget or any comments thank you for the presentation any questions for the board Miss Bo any questions from your side if you have any questions no no okay thank you for the presentation one more time thank you for doing that again um all right at this time I'll entertain a motion to adopt the 2425 uh budget move to adop Second has been moved and seconded uh all those in favor say I I I um the budget is adopted 5 to Z thank you so much um next item on the agenda is measure a 2324 annual report and allocations for 2425 fiscal year Dr Fus it is recommended the board approve the measure a allocations for the 2425 fiscal year I do believe we have a member of the measure a oversight committee who will provide the board a brief report thank you my mic my mic isn't working but um but uh we have Margo sandavol who's uh on the committee here to represent the the oversight committee and do the presentation of reports the bo thank you good evening um my name is Margo sandal I am a measure a Committee Member each year the measure a committee presents an annual report to the board today I have the pleasure uh to be the presenter uh measure a committee began making annual reports to the board on both the fiscal accountability and impact on students of programs and personnel which are funded by measure a this year the committee met four times the committee has made up up of three community members uh one parent of each of the three School families in the district who have a child that is currently enrolled in one of those schools two employees representing teachers teachers must be nominated by their Union ctab uh two employees representing classified Personnel uh CCA and or teamsters and two employees representing management Personnel each member has committed to a three-year term a majority of current active members is needed for a quorum and a quorum is needed in order to make decisions um examples would be suggestions on how money should be spent as well as evaluating how money was spent uh we still need to fill five vacant membership seats as they are listed here the measure a committee oversight responsibilities are fiscal accountability and impact on students the annual riew of funds received and how they were spent was reviewed at the October 23rd 2023 meeting the allocations are consistent with original the original proposed measure a ballot each year the committee provides data to show the board members how measure a funds impacted students the year the district uh discussed the smart this year the district used the smarter balance assessment to test for English language arts and math for all students from third to 8th grade measure a funds funds the following special types of programs and services um they attract and retain qualified teachers maintaining science and math proficiencies as well as technology and counseling keeping School libraries open providing Hands-On science instruction keeping School Technology up to date and funding programs that enhance student achievement the bar chart compares the percentage of students meeting or exceeding the English language arts standard across three entities berasa Union School District Santa Clara and the C of California from the year 2021 22 to the year 2023 24 berasa Union School District consistently performs higher than both Santa Clara and the state of California across all years the percentage of students meeting are exceeding the standard increase for baras Union School District from 6626 per in 2122 to 64.6% in 2324 the data the data for Santa Clara and the state of California in 2324 has not been released the bar chart highlights the percentage of students meeting are exceeding the mathematical standards of baringan school district from the 2122 to 23 24 school years baras Union School District consistently performs higher than both Santa Clara and the state of California across all years starting at 54.8% in 2122 slightly increasing to 55.2% in and reaching 55.3% in 2324 the data for Santa Clara in the state of California in 23 24 has not been released the number of positions funded by measure a or less than was designated in the beginning salaries continue to increase whether it be by step in column raises and or increases in benefits the positions that can no longer be funded by measure a are funded through other unrestricted funds this concludes my presentation do you have any questions thank you for the presentation are there any questions from the board trusty H Maro thank you so much for the presentation I just have a quick question for you I noticed there's no allocation funding for counselors was what is the reason for that um so right now counselors are being funded uh through through the local accountability planed elcap hey thank you you're I can share that it's a lot of it's just due to the fact that the salaries and benefits have gone up and there's just not enough remaining funding to fund the position so we shifted those costs any other questions from the board is boak any questions from your side no all right thank you so much for the present all right um we will need a motion to approve the annual report and allocations for measure a are a motion the board move to approve second okay it's been moved and seconded all those in favor say I I I I thank you I um motion carries 5 to zero thank you so much uh next item on the list is school consolidation advisory committee replacement Dr Fus yes thank you um as previously mentioned our committee has been very dedicated to being part of the school consolidation process we have had a parent who was representing uh Sierra mon Middle School have to step down from the committee due to moving out of our area so uh we are uh we do have another applicant that is interested in continuing in that individual's Place their name is Melissa mes and so it is recommended that the board approve Melissa to be part of our school consolidation advisory committee thank you for that is there a motion to approve the parent I have a quick question before this motion um Can Melissa be given materials to catch up to what the consolidation committee has discussed so far yes absolutely um as a matter of fact uh Mr Franklin uh he'll be doing that with her uh so that way she can get caught up in her application uh process she did share that she's been reviewing all the minutes and our agendas and the presentations but we'll still go ahead and do a a onetoone with her and we also provide that opportunity when any of our members do have to miss a meeting for emergency purposes okay wonderful and with that I move to approve Melissa's appointment second thank you it's been moved and seconded uh all those in favor say I I I motion carries 5 to zero thank you so much um next it on the agenda under Human Resources we have public hearing acceptance of the 242 is it 2426 Sunshine proposal for the uh cab according to government Cod section 3547 Dr FES is recommended the board conduct first a public hearing and then accept the sunshine proposal for caap for negotiations thank you I'll open it for public hearing I see no comments on the public I close the public hearing and I will uh uh entertain a motion for the acceptance of the 2426 Sunshine proposal for SATA I move to approve the sunshine proposal second okay it's been moved and seconded uh if there are no questions all those in favor say I I I I motion carries 5 to zero thank you so much the next item on the agenda is resolution 23-21 authorizing participation and self-insured schools of California three is a three Roman 3 sic 3 Dr ftis it is recommended that the board adopt resolution 2321 authorizing authorizing participation in self-insured schools of California cisk 3 I do want to just say a thank you to um Mr Franklin as well as Mr Cabrera for coordinating our health benefits committee and for all the individuals uh that were part of that discussion to be able to review uh various options that could be of benefit both to the district as well as our employees perfect are there any questions on this resolution uh if not I'll entertain a motion iove thetion is there a second on that second it's been moved and seconded we'll go with a roll call vote on this one miss Gomez yes president shason I truste himz hi truste Hal hi truste NN hi I truste boak I thank you for that resolution 2321 is passed unanimously um next we have um The Joint exercise of power agreement um for the operation of common risk management and insurance program s ic3 uh Dr fentis it is recommended the board approve the joint exercise of powers agreement for the operation of common risk management and insurance programs CIS three and uh this support the previous resolution that the board has approved thank you for that um are there any questions if not I'll entertain a motion on this one approve it's been moved okay we have move have Motion in a second over here M thank you it's been moved in seconded all those in favor say I I I the motion carries 5 to zero thank you thank you for that that's on the agenda uh any requests for staff followup or items for future agendas from the board is boak anything from your side nothing from my side thank you in that case I'll entertain a motion for adjournment toour it's been moved and seconded all those in favor say I I Mo uh meeting is joined at 704 thank you so much for being here you
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e e e uh oh Sor M oh I was still muted that's okay that's okay take two you ready for me now they can hear me out there I'm sure we have lots of people listening in I'm just kidding okay no no worries good evening I I now call to order the Chica Unified School District special Board of Education meeting and workshop it is June 26 2024 uh just after 4:10 p.m. uh the board will be going to close session at this time and we'll return to open session at 5:00 p.m. thank you e e e good evening uh the board has been enclosed session um we are now returning to open session for the June 26 2024 chica Unified School Board um meeting and workshop it is just after 5:00 pm.
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um the uh kind of highlights in that legislative package that was approved for specifically looking at K12 highlights um a was Exempted uh that was just a one-year exemption unfortunately so we're we're still um we'll be on the hook for 26 uh and seems like I've mentioned before this seems like it's going to be the kind of theme right there it's going to be annual exemptions to that aggregate expens limit um we were anticipated to exceed that by 1.3 billion so that would have been another 16% % in a potential Cuts so um that's reassuring knowing that we can go into 25 and we'll have full budget capacity um for next year um one uh kind of unexpected expectation um was 200 million was awarded um in the building renewal grant program so as I mentioned Higley has been a beneficiary of that um higgle highes weatherization that painting uh we were recipient of $1.2 million from that Grant fund to uh paint and weatherize that camp so uh we will look to continue to tap into those funds um and utilize their um Grant portal to submit up applications and so um hopefully we have some additional renewals coming in fiscal year 25 um or bring forth I guess project approvals to the board out of that fund so um one kind of negative the daa funds um that were appropriated um and the governor duy legislation so that three-year appropriation of increases um we were going into year three of three of those increases um however the legislature moved those um increases to onetime funding so what that means is we will we'll see the increase in 25 but immediately in 26 that will come off our budget we'll already start to see a capital reduction um it seems like uh just a reoccurring thing unfortunately I felt like we were just emerging out of this um but now we'll see a capital reduction in 26 unless additional legislation U changes that in uh in the 25 year so um that's unfortunate uh again provides another emphasis on looking for additional Capital funding um and you know one thing we do have on the ballot is a bond so the other point we uh the remove in the leg they remove the Statewide kindergarten entry assessment um I can't speak to that personally but maybe some of our education side but that was just another point on the K12 kind of highlights that I wanted to emphasize um one more thing I didn't include on there was I think the board or I think everybody's kind of a heard of the quasm kind of leg you know lawsuit and judgment and so um one thing I did um kind of remove from our board agenda I had originally a resolution on there um when the on the last Thursday but we pulled that um after assessing our cash balances with our levied funds uh we will we don't anticipate needing to do any sort of resolution to tax our tax base additionally to Garner um the 3.4 million that we are um assessed in that judgment so we'll be able to cover that completely from our cash funds or levied cash funds um we have enough cash on hand to cover that 3.4 million obligation from that judgment um and so Higley again will will'll have no resolution um brought forth to the board as all that will be handled U with our levied cash funds that we have um the known implications um these are the the same pretty much that I anticipated and that were approved in the budget and so um we were proactive and put these known implications in my you know preliminary budget form so the adopted form or the final forms that were released the final budget forms already had these numbers in there um so uh I don't anticipate needing to come back to the board in September to revise our budget because we already are maximizing uh what is um legislatively available to our district in terms of um the K12 budget so the highlights of those again again 2% inflation adjustment that's in statute if inflation is Runing above 2% which it was about 3.5 the state legislature is obligated to at least minimally fund us 2% which has been the practice estimated again increase in capital they they did appropriate that increase but they moved that to one time so we will see the increase for 25 but it'll immediately come back off in 26 unless further legislation changes that uh and then again just another bullet point this is our last year of our fully funded M override unless we renew that November 2024 again that's about a $4.3 million implication to our m&o budget uh it would be that first year and then again it's another phase down over the next two years it's a total of a three-year phase down but the immediately the immediate impact is $4.3 million the budget transfer again our practice um to pay off our or to continue to make our payments for our Middle School leases has been to transfer M dollars to Capital as I mentioned we have to pay um our lease obligation from a capital fund so um We are continuing that um but we are not transferring any additional dollars for major projects so um just making that transfer that $3.5 million that's our principal and interest obligation for our leaste payment next year uh and we just rering that amount so our proposed uh adopted budget is um not changed since I last presented in June um just to give you the highlights again in 20 in May 8th 2024 we revised our budget to $126 million that included um the reconciliation to 100 ADM which finished off at a loss of 226 um that budget did have a higher transfer from M to Capital um and which is one of the reasons why you see going to 25 uh kind of the budget increasing right we're not transferring as much dollars to Capital which in in terms those those M dollars stay in M we are projecting a 100 ADM decrease um that 128 million does include the 2% inflation um I already mentioned that the capital transfer being less than what we've previously done again leaving more money in ml and we're anticipating ending the year with $22 million in budget bals carry forward which will be down approximately uh one and a.
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persons wishing to be heard on this matter are invited to attend the public Hearing in person or by logging on to the zoom meeting interested parties who are unable to attend the hearing May submit written comments to the select board's office Town Hall 101 Main Street ashin mass 01721 or by emailing Susan Roby sroy ashin mass.com Okay so we've announced the public hearing and we are reviewing a change of stock option for this uh entity and that's it um if we are William if you could come up and take us through the change and why it's necessary okay actually motion to uh open the public hearing which I read second all those in favor I I perfect good evening will Goldberg from uh Main Street Wine and Spirits uh this is just house cleaning on some paperwork that uh that came to our attention in the past year just um when my father uh passed almost 27 years ago and my uncle passed 5 years ago they never properly split their business is in the eyes of the Alcoholic Beverage Control Commission and so uh this is all this is is just letting them know that my dad and my uncle don't own the business [Laughter] anymore okay good and we um unfortunately Susan's not here but either Jen or Michael from what I can tell we had everything we needed in our packet to approve this okay okay and as far as I'm aware we have not received any comments okay okay well congratulations on your your new business or about to be new business any um questions or well anyone here to speak against this not that I expect that but we just need to go through um any comments or questions from the select board regarding this bill is bullet's Market still in operation it is under new ownership okay okay because that was the other that was your your uncle's business right that's right that's right all right his uh his son sold it to the person that had' been working there for about 30 years so okay and that that took place last year last year yeah that's pretty much when all this came to light all came to light gotcha okay okay thank you wel okay any other questions or comments I can get a motion to close the public hearing so moved second all those in favor I and then if I can get a motion to approve the stock change as presented so moved second all those any other discussion seeing none all those in favor I and that carries 4 Z you are all set all right thank you now now congratulations now congratulations it's finally mine there you go there you go [Laughter] now the fun starts thank you right great nice kid okay moving on I see Steve Greenberg is here so if it's okay with Steve and everybody else if he's actually still there okay until we see him we will uh move on because my understanding is that Steve is giving the presentation from the affordable housing trust okay so let's keep going down our old and new business until we see Steve come back uh vote to approve a one-day bino Bingo license request from K&B crayons and Beyond to be held on August 9th 2024 at the VFW 311 Pleasants street we have the information this is basically just they're looking for a one-day license to be able to do uh this program and it is a fundraiser for kmbs crayons and Beyond a non-profitable a nonprofit charitable organization Michael we just need to vote to approve the one-day license correct any questions comments concerns okay uh I move that we approve the uh I I would ask for a motion to approve the one-day beo license as requested so moved okay Second Great any other questions or discussion all those in favor I I great and that passes good luck to them and if not doing anything that day go and support do we all need to sign should yeah you should sign you should sign a license okay we'll do that after the meeting yeah so remember no one can leave until we've signed that license great wonderful still no Steve well he's just said oh he just needs to maybe he doesn't realize he's here see oh now he's gone now he needs to be let be on some good medicine right he might might we want to make him co-host yep okay well as we continue working on that uh Michael you want do the town hall yes let's do the update on the assessment of the Town Hall sure so um so just a couple of updates related to town hall and essentially the infrastructure so one of the things that we have been working up on is um first of all basically securing the building uh had a significantly cracked beam um based on when the renovation was done I think around 2005 so what happened was the proper uh supports wasn't putting put in place in order to support the HVAC systems that were put in place so unfortunately that led to a pretty significant crack and twist in one of the main supporting beams which um so we've ended up going through and you know having to get an architect and engineer and so that's been fixed and secured so that's number one um the second thing we've been doing is I mean as you can see the exterior you know we painted it probably eight or nine years ago go but it's looking a little tired a little rough so instead of just looking at painting this time um one of the things that we've done is uh Doug Scott our Building Commissioner who's kind of heading this project he went and secured a lift uh with an architect to actually go through all the town hall and the exterior and kind of look at the places that's have rotted and and all of that good stuff and making determinations of what needs to be replaced and how it can be replaced and so he's taken that assessment and putting it all together and we'll put that out to bid later this year to do the work like whatever kind of replacement work needs to be done and then as well as uh painting and so one of the things I will make clear is that um you know we used a composite material for the steps cuz it felt that that was probably most appropriate but you know for the town hall proper if you will the exterior you know we'll be using more like the historical period materials you know wood Clapper and stuff like that good um so anyway yeah it was um as we all know how how hot it was last week and so you know Doug uh we've got some good shots of Doug up on the lift um with all of his safety harness and stuff so so has that mean support being been repaired or is it in the process beinged so it has been repaired yeah and there were a couple of other things like apparently there was another support that was supposed to be put in place um really kind of I'm looking up because it's kind of in this area and it was not so that's been taken care of and addressed not anymore we probably should have moved a long time ago Joe uh but now we're in good shape so okay any other questions um just um we had we had budgeted for this this year right like we had when we were looking at the budget for this was part of that Alle the 8 million yep are we thinking that this is going to you know depending on like how much placement and stuff is that is it going to align with what we had projected the the cost would be it should I mean I we I think we'd put in 450 okay and yeah that should cover it I was kind of hoping we'd have some more left over but it doesn't sound like you know based on Doug's estimation that that's going to and unfortunately pricing right now for cards like you know are are are higher so exactly yeah a nice nice okay any other questions or comments on the town hall question about the painting um we I'm sorry a question about the painting um do you ever consider using Rhino Shield Joe I think given the historic nature of the the building yeah are you you're talking about like a a composite type of more like a plas siding it's it's it's the type of it's the type of paint right it's more of a plastic it's a ceramic it's a ceramic type of yeah I think we probably be looking more at the traditional acrylic or I'm just saying it would last longer and it would save the towns taxpayers money over the years type of deal yeah I mean if if we wanted to go in that direction um then I mean we would look at something like a composite type of material for the siding but given that this building's on the national register I'm not sure exactly what be an interesting question to ask to see if they would they would allow that you know because I know a lot of historic uh places down down in Florida are using it so yeah yeah I'm I'm trying to remember the exact the Secretary of interior standards I got to know those with the Valentine with quite a bit um and and there's certainly times when it is appropriate to use that I if I remember correctly it's really more in a location that's not very visible to the public um but Town Hall was just on Chronicle on Mond right that's true true we don't want so okay good see seeing no other questions on the update on the town hall project and we see Steve Greenberg Steve welcome thank you uh if you're ready apologize for technical difficulty I tried to uh unmute and unv video but uh here I am great so thank you for uh inviting me to this evening's meeting and uh happy to answer any questions and maybe first I could tell you a little bit about what's new and what's going on with the affordable trust that'd be great sure currently uh is's a property on Main Street um that uh the trust has been working with the property owner and Habitat for Humanity uh to develop a single family home on that property and that's been a a a long time uh vacant parcel of land that that uh we're we're excited about the possibility of developing an affordable unit there and habitat's been great to work with the property owners have been great to work with so uh they're working their way through the process and the state so uh look forward to Habitat coming in front of various boards in town in the very near future and getting something uh put up on that lot that serves the affordable housing numbers here in town great another uh project we have been working I'd like to say collaboratively with the with the select board is uh Olive Street and uh the former sipson property that the town has owned for quite a while that property was purchased a long time ago with uh Community preservation act funds uh two buckets open space and affordable um it's a property that has some upins on the on the street and uh a lot of wetlands in the back and I think uh beavers probably enjoy that property more than anyone but uh we uh uh you know we did some Wetland studies years ago we had all that updated and approved uh with through the Conservation Commission and uh we took those new boundaries and uh setbacks and the trust retained a landscape architect a gentleman by name of Steven Cosmos and uh he's come up with uh some scenarios a very uh limited scope because again of the um the wetlands uh sort of make it a uh a small envelope so um I have a document I can if I'm allowed to I could share screen with everyone or uh just talk about it whichever you PR it would be great if you could show it I believe you're set up to co to um as a CO host okay yeah so you can just share your screen here with me yes so Joe it this didn't get into our packet but you all should have received it via email from Joe is that is that visible very good yep that's it okay so what um the landscape architect has done has taken a section of Olive Street that probably has the greatest depth in term in terms of setbacks with with Road wetlands and uh zoning and come up with a couple of different scenarios here that challenge uh both access to the parcel and uh and the number of units so the top left has six units with 12 parking spaces as does the uh the U rendering on the viewers right the uh parking gets a little complicated but the purpose of uh putting something like this together would be in the hopes of with the select board's approval going out uh with a request for proposals that gave those who might be interested in developing 100% affordable units on this property some ideas of what they could potentially develop so we would have for someone who' be interested a full set of uh wetlands and topography and approvals as well as these uh particular renderings maybe they could come up with something that fits better looks better um maybe has a few more units but again it's it's very Compact and uh so that would be the affordable component of the property and and again because of the extreme Wetlands there um I think the balance of the property would be for those to uh enjoy whether they want to walk back there and get their feet wet or uh just have something pretty to look at okay so that's um that's something we'd again like to further discuss with the select board to see if they'd be uh interested willing to go forward with an RFP and uh I think the other uh most recent update to the affordable trust is that we're at full membership Carlton Phelps has joined our ranks so that brings our membership to five and uh he's new he's new to the uh to the trust but in our last meeting he very much participated and we look forward to his future interest and and future additions to the uh for the trust and what we're trying to get done great questions or comments Claudia go ahead and then Brandy hi Steve um just I have a couple of well one question about the Main Street property um so how does that work when somebody like the owners have are selling it or well they must be selling it to Habit that for Humanity to build well um like any real estate transaction Claudia you need site control um so they have site control they have a purchase and sale agreement with the property owners they needed that to uh present not only to the to various boards here in town but to the state okay so uh there is a contract they haven't shared it right right I think that's private between them and the property owner but um so I guess I guess the thing that I was trying to get at is if somebody owns property and they um you know want to make it available to a developer would build something or in this case Habitat for Humanity is it is it sold at a competitive market or is rate or is it discounted in some way or does the the state participate because it's um going to be you know for affordable housing or um I don't think the state contributes in terms of of financial yeah um I think the biggest Financial contributor here will be the town of Ashland through the affordable trust yep uh because you know to as mentioned earlier in talking about rehabbing town hall construction costs are silly um soft costs to get something approved uh is not cheap so I would say that you know 10 years ago 15 years ago the purchase price on this property uh is probably what's reflected in the contract so it's um it's probably a 25 30% of what would be market rate but um I think cloudy it all depends on the project but you know sometimes property is donated right you know the YMCA project is is a donated parcel yeah I know I know it is yeah it's not the easiest parcel and maybe that's why it's still available yeah but um I hope I answered your question or if I didn't please tell me how I can better better answer the question yeah no I I think you have and then um the the Olive Street property um so that is so that's currently owned by the town and then for it to be affordable units how does how does that work they're they're set by that the certain formula in terms of price um there is is are there some priorities given to people who work for the town it depends on the size of the final project okay um I I think unfortunately with Main street that won't be the case but I think that can be certainly part of the RFP that um Town residents might get uh certain advantages in the potential ownership or rental of the property on Olive Street um but um there pretty strict guidelines about that the um again as as I mentioned earlier the parcel was purchased with CPA funds out of the two buckets open space and affordable so um anything that was sold there would have to be affordable or built there would have to have deed restrictions relative to Affordable so I hope that answers your question yeah so and and those though a developer there right it is it are they I'm just asking I guess it is developing a property that is going to be affordable housing and as lucrative as it would be to go and and develop a property that isn't affordable housing or you know I'm trying to understand what the impetus would be for a developer to step up um there wouldn't be impetus for a market developer okay this is a project that uh entities like habitat or others that might be looking for tax credits but I don't think that would be the case here uh this is not a financial gain by uh the town or the developer if we do something on B Street or Main Street it's uh it's a negative it's a negative Capital uh know Improvement if you will couldn't they go to the state right there's there's housing the the Housing Authority at the state that if they're building affordable housing they can get some kind of financing as well there's funding available for that if you look at um like Robert Hillway they were able to get how some funding to help build that parcel build that R Hill Way was actually um a federal program and there were tax credits and that that took years to get approved yeah yeah on many different levels that that took years to get approved um in a in a case like U Main Street and a case like Olive Street I think the um the financing would most likely come through a state approved Agency for the homeowner right but in terms of uh Development and Construction um I think it would be uh one of the primary uh fund sources would be the trust right okay and then and then you're always kind of looking for a non a nonprofit developer if you will absolutely okay and are those um do we is there a pool from which we kind of seek out I know we put out an RFP but do we also advertise it with oh I I think that you know willing I think Jen could speak to that uh but the irfp is um broadly advertised uh based on state guidelines 30b guidelines and uh there are a number of nonprofit developers out there I don't see a lot of them U banging on the door to to get a project that is going to depend on a local uh funding and uh and possibly some State assistance but I think we can get it done I'm actually very confident we can get it done at a price right the other thing too is the developer doesn't have to purchase the the land because that's town-owned land so that there's there is that component of it right the Olive Street parel the street so they're they're starting at a different point than if they had to purchase so the profitability is is a little bit a little bit so I think there'd be some subdividing you know I don't I don't see um if it's a if it's the individual units are purchased I don't see those individual units taking uh any ownership of the balance of the land available in the back I think we would have to uh look at a plan that's subdivided out in development parcel and the rest would stay with the to and what is the in terms of their going through to the permitting of that with the planning board and that is it what's that similar to is it typically be similar to it would be a 40b yeah it's similar to a 40b that's I guess yeah so it' be the zoning board of appeals okay Michael you wanted to add something and then BR yeah so so Steve what you're saying is like we would have to give the property basically to the developer and then we would probably need to make an additional Financial contribution right to make it financially feasible that's 100% correct from the trust from the trust from the trust correct from the trust from the town you know it comes from the town from CPA to the trust to the developer and the trust right now has significant funds um well those funds aren't as significant as they used to be but there there are there are some doll in the trust so I also Envision um when we get there to go to town meeting and um look say what the town has to say about this project and uh ask for some funding at that uh at that time right so right now uh there's still affordable I mean there's housing money sitting in the CPC bucket that has to be then moved from CPC to the trust but so the monies are would not be on top of what the tax rate in any way shape or form no no okay thank you Randy so thanks abolutely um thank you Steve and and the whole affordable housing trust for all the work on the Olive Street project um I know the last time I think that you were here we were talking about you know what potentially that could look like and you had to do a lot of work on the the wetlands delineation and all the the the surveying and all the the you know the groundwork to even get to this point so seeing seeing a sketch with with actual units on it is is uh pretty pretty cool I think so um so thank you for all the work on that and I'm I'm looking forward to to seeing this kind of go go to the next step um I was just curious you know you had mentioned ownership or or rental and you know are these are these looking to be like probably two bedroom units or how big how big of how big little houses are these or or I guess that's I I think the state prefers three bedrooms if it's a property for sale um so um I think that would be the U the way we would hopefully write into the irf and uh I think I think in a development like this uh the trust has talked about it for a long time and I I think Joe uh would back me up on this that we're thinking more of a for sale rather than a for rent okay uh certainly like to see home ownership and you know what happens with entities like I Habitat for Humanity there's a lot of Sweat Equity from the purchasers that goes into literally from the ground up they're involved in the construction and uh you know pride of ownership I think is important so you know we certainly want these to be an asset to the town and to those that are going to live there great um and then so as far as the whether it would be you know is it like an you look at certain Ami for for these types of units you would you look at Joe just said 80% so um that's kind of what you're looking for yeah okay right you know I think they would probably sell probably you know in today's world they probably sell around $300,000 which okay you know that's affordable in today's world yeah absolutely well not really but it that's what the numbers say um so just to talk about the 80% it's 80% Ami the area mean income so who would be eligible for these types of units um and with the am with the current median it's it's the so the large of the family the uh more income they're allowed to make Ashlin is in the so the the districts are set up by Hud ashin is in the Boston District so the allowable income is quite substantial you know 100,000 plus so the larger your family the more you're allowed to make okay and and it has to be your first home is that true uh there are some caveats there podia but typically your first home okay and this is into perpetuity so um deed restriction would be in perpetuity I think that'd be one of our not only the town but the state's requirement right and other just just from a time frame perspective um what what are your thoughts about like timing for you know to put this out to bid for an RFP and um what I'm looking at gen to um so I was just curious from from from your perspective what what that kind of looks like well if if you want to make a motion U certainly look forward to working with uh with Jen to U we to yeah I I just like there's a lot involved in these things I also you know we're doing our Retreat the first meeting in August and we can talk about timing and how this fits into the other projects I think a lot of work has been done but I think before we I mean I I'm you I'm like ready to jump in but we know that a lot needs to be done uh any other questions or comments because if not I have a yeah the only quick comment I wanted to make with with respect to what Brandy just brought up is that the Woodland delineation we were really surprised at how much land we actually lost over the years yeah uh when we did our first uh Whitland delineation and it's quite substantial I mean we're talking we're talking about a ball field we wanted we were thinking about putting a passive you know Recreation P that's all gone yeah all of it's all gone because of the delineation all well because how the wetlands have increased how they increased yes that would climate change would that be uh I think be the Beavers more than anything else the Beavers the be so Steve thank you for coming and and chatting with us I just had a couple of comments slash thoughts on housing and what we're trying to do here in in Ashland one of the complaints I hear from a lot of people is we're doing a lot of rentals and not a lot of purchase so the idea idea that these would be for purchase rather than rental I think is a great idea uh the other thing to think about is I'm looking at the floor plans and you know their three-bedroom we also are hearing that people are looking for other forms of housing right not looking for maybe larger units they're looking for smaller units um instead of these being single you know single family is it possible to make these two family but smaller um just things to think about is it something that we could do senior right small senior housing that's affordable I don't know those are just some of the things that I've heard people say certainly the the small house thing that you're you know it's sort of something that's a lot of people are talking about instead of having a bigger house having a smaller house we could potentially fit more units on the the land any thoughts on that I I do have a thought on that and it's unfortunate um I've had the pleasure of putting my sister's house on the market she lives in uh she lives in poppington on Lumber Street she's surrounded by mcmansions and uh the house is 780 Square ft I'm not going to divulge the uh price that it's under contract for but you would be shocked I can imagine talking between $500,000 yeah for 780 foot house bring that house to ashin you're talking about $425,000 Bel y um I think I think the development world out there um has a has a good understanding of the market and the right nonprofit developer knows what uh the state wants and what the town wants and I think we can we can guide an RFP to get uh as much Bay for as many buckes we have to spend as possible okay great yeah I I think all three of these I I like the ones where they go completely off the street to get into the development I think because of Olive Street and either the oneway circle around or the entrance in and out something that gets the houses and their front part so they's not all the homes are not going in and out of olive stream yeah right okay great any other questions or comments for Steve gentlemen any questions that you would like to ask no the reason I'm asking that Steve is we have three boy three Boy Scouts here who are learning yeah so they they came specifically to hear about affordable housing I'll be happy to talk to them anytime yeah so you can reach out to Steve Greenberg he's very knowledgeable he's is so great get better my friend if there's no other questions yes feel better Steve if there's no other questions uh thank you very much Steve for coming and speaking with us and we look forward to moving these projects along thank you I appreciate the opportunity thank you for you thank you for your work on this yeah okay byebye so many years ago Jen and I and Brandy had the opportunity to actually work on a Habitat for Humanity house when it was being built in Holliston so I think that's certainly one of the things that as habitat comes into our community with this house they am sure would offer opportunities for people who want to volunteer to help build it's actually pretty cool to go and help and then see the house get built and as Steve said with Habitat for Humanity whoever is selected to be moving into the home they also have to put so many so much time and energy working on building their own home Steve called it Sweat Equity yeah great okay wonderful thank you for sharing the information Joe beforehand appreciate that moving on in our agenda update on the de Andi project Michael and probably Mita as well yeah definitely and and Makita or Jen please feel to jump in here but um so you know I'm happy to say that we've basically concluded our engagement with I success Consulting and T Rene smth um or the energetic Dynamo that is the principal of said firm um and uh so we got basically a a lot of good actionable information from the surveys and the interviews that we did which was u a key component uh the first component of of this stage which is developing a Dei action plan and um again just to kind of refresh everybody's memory we did um interviews and surveys of both um you know Town leadership also employees and then also community members and basically got their take on uh basically what their experiences have been uh and what they have witnessed and things that they feel that are important in the Dei realm moving forward and we got a variety of responses back which we did review as the Dei task force with um uh with the consultant so since that time um Jen and I have met with our department heads to to review basically the employee um stuff and go through that and talk about basically what our potential next steps could look like um we still have to meet as the Dei task force and do the same thing and I think our although we don't have specifics right now our next step we know is to do more of a communication out with the community to explain this is kind of where we are with the process this is what we've heard and then these are a couple of steps that we're going to take based on the on the information that we've received from an will the report be available for the public to read yes okay um and so that's pretty much it in a nutshell Makita or Chen do you you know have anything to to to add to that no that was a pretty good run that was a pretty good rundown of of what's happening so yeah I don't really have anything to add Michael thanks for the recap yeah thank and thanks to the Dei task force again and Makita and Jen being a part of that but then um also the other members I think they've been very very critical in terms of providing feedback a good set of eyes good questions to help guide this process and thanks to the community and everybody that participated let's say y absolutely will we be able to take this report and roll it into our work with the comprehensive plan yes perfect yes and that that was one of the primary I was about to say that was a key focus of what we were trying to do here so absolutely great yeah Mita and I have been very very in sync in terms of the fact that from the very beginning that we can't have a plan that is sitting on the shelf it has to be right it has to be actionable and it has to be executable so yeah okay any other questions regarding the project from anyone else comments just one quick question were you guys satisfied with the survey and how it came out was you surprise were there any surprises that uh you didn't take you know I well I'll take the first part um you know I think that the methodology was sound I was actually very impressed with the uh consultant and um how they actually conducted the survey and and just uh how we gathered the data I think was very sound and solid so you know the results that we have are a good starting point I think for us uh it's not the end all be all certainly won't uh you know give us any sort of uh complete answers uh but I think it's a good starting point yeah Michael I don't know if you have or Jen if you have anything to add around that yeah I I thought like Makita said I think the survey the the methodology and everything was sound so I do believe that what we have is a good accurate uh base from which to make decisions from or to work from I think the range and the breadth of answers that we had elicited I guess you could say like a range of different thoughts and maybe even emotions for me and I'm sure for everybody else um I was very appreciative of some of the D data that we received especially from some of the employees because it didn't um you know even though it was focused on diversity equity and inclusion um you know there were some other things just about culture that kind of um came through that was pretty interesting and um something that I think that we can use moving forward so and this included not just general government but the schools as well the well I mean people um certainly opined and offered their opinions on school yeah but um but it was not yeah so that I think that there are a lot of opinions about many things um in town uh the town Services especially but also just business you know folks experience generally in town around this um and of course there are a lot of families who were part of the schools who responded and shared some of their experiences um in that survey as well but there there is definitely Joe to get back to to answer the second part of your question and there there is definitely a diversity of opinion of of uh different experiences in town around this issue so I think again I think it's going to be a solid foundation for us to uh start rolling up our sleeves and taking some action so when you talk about staff you're talking about General government staff was part of that and part of that discussion I mean I know the schools have been doing some work as well exensive work several years ago even for sure okay great any other questions or comments no thank you Makita for being on that thank you Michael and Jen for your work on that I know it's it's very important that we look at what we're doing in our community because of how our community has changed in the last 15 20 years it's it's definitely our community looks a lot different than it did before so yeah well I you know I think every Community should change no matter what the community itself looks like I think that um you know we are a world we're not just a these communities anymore or even countries right everything is um and I don't think we can ever have real peace and and a a good world when there are people starving and people uh you know there's too many imbalances right throughout the world so um I think uh it's nice to certainly be in a community that Embraces that but yeah everybody needs to great thank you for that Claudia moving on discuss and vote on the Mass housing comment letter for the Oasis at Ashland located at 61 Waverly Street and as of today we have received 40 comments you all should have received this packet unfortunately it was as we were coming in but there's a lot of similarities to this response as there was to the mill response where we had a lot of input so Michael do you want to take us through this and is there any big difference that we need to be aware of um well there there's there's a few I I think not necessarily big ones but things that you know we should kind of run through and uh you know as you mentioned Yolanda you know you all got this as you're coming in and um I do apologize for that this obviously uh way later than gives you an opportunity to kind of digest this and and um you know make some comments associated with it but um you know essentially you know the the the letter itself I I mean the the lead in in terms of our rationale against why we think this project is not good the way it is presented um really hinges upon the work that we've already done in developing housing throughout the community um both in terms of what has been built and what has been permitted um and then you know we also reference the fact that there is an additional 250 units that we're talking about aside from what we've detailed here that is at least I I guess you could say for lack of a better term on the table with the mill proposal urrently before Mass housing uh so this is a little bit of a different project and a little bit different site than the mill first of all um the whereas the mill has been seen and visible and has been talked about and plans put together for you know four years um you know this site itself really we haven't seen anything about it for you know since since I've been here for for a while so it's relatively new and then also I think um you know there's very there's very little information that's required by Mass housing um as part of their application package um and I think you know with a developer with like the mill project SLV which has experience in Massachusetts doing a lot of um a lot of 40b projects I think in their application you see a lot of data even more and above what's required from Mass housing whereas with this one um it is a relatively new development company in at least in Massachusetts um you know technically their their LLC for this project is RSP Acquisitions but it's essentially the parent company's posern realy Group which um is based out of Rhode Island and they've done a couple projects now in Mass at least have one uh that's built and one that's in in the in the pipeline but they provided relatively little data um associated with their application as well so it's been hard for our boards and committees to um and our staff really to kind of take a look at it and um and basically find specifics to I don't want to necessarily say take issue with but at least evaluate um but that being said there are some um and just again like the the the project design itself so if you're just looking at Aesthetics you know you look at what was envisioned by the town through the Wildwood mixed juuse District where this project is located um which was you know really supposed to be a self-enclosed and self-contained mixed use District that had a variety of uses like commercial residential open space recreational um you know obviously the project as proposed uh through this 40b sticks strictly to residental and um so it just in that element in that Essence it kind of goes against what the town had envisioned um specifically with regards to the buildings themselves so the height um is something that I think that we've all taken issue with so we're talking about on the site two four-story buildings into two five-story buildings so on the site under the traditional zoning um I'll call the traditional zoning or or zoning I should say um you could do a five-story building as long as it's mixed use um if you only decided to stick to like a residential only building um the limitation was three stories and so obviously you see a deviation from what our zoning is by having four and five story only residential buildings um so I think that's something that we um you know we take some issue with uh with regards to infrastructure of course Water and Sewer um is is very very very important um in detailing you know the issues with our our water supply and you know look the fact is that we do have this supplemental connection now to the MW but we're Limited in what we can basically take from Southboro in terms of gallonage uh I think it's 300,000 gallons a day um uh so you know there there's potential to bump up against that even if you don't look at the Mill project itself um and then also the town sewer system you know we've talked about the limitations associated with that both from a physical perspective but then also from uh again a paper perspective and what we're allowed to basically what they call an interbasin transfer um from you know the Basin that we withdraw water from and then because essentially what we're doing is we're drawing water out of our basin and we're transporting it through our sewer system to Boston Harbor um and so again there's limitations that we're allowed to do through de um and that and then also with what we're allowed to basically transport through framing Hamp system through the intermunicipal agreement um and so again the addition of 226 units is is not going to help that at all um so one of the things that we found uh I'll just say frustrating um to a certain extent is that um you know in order to really kind of identify what Wetlands resources that you're potentially impacting you have to have an up-to-date delineation or you should have an up-to-date delineation uh what they have pres what um the developer has provided is really kind of an estimation of what the Wetland resources are um that is significantly out of date by a couple of decades um now the person who did that work Joyce Hastings um I don't know if she's retired yet but Joyce has done a lot of work in Ashland and in Metro West uh through glm Consulting um but Joe just as you mentioned um how much the re resource area Wetland resource area had grown on Olive Street over the past you know 15 years you can imagine having a very similar situation here and so I think a real delineation needs to be done in order for us to see what the impact is and I think that's going to impact the conceptual plan as well um uh traffic concerns um oh wow uhoh uh obviously a little bit different than what the with the in terms of the specifics than what we had with the mill site but um the fact is is that 135 in Waverly Street is is really kind of the main thoroughfare corridor from east to west you know running through Ashland and so um again adding I I think there's 431 spaces you know adding 431 cars let's just say take that for what it is exactly and and then I think also the fact that it's proximity to the public safety building which um you know obviously there needs to be you know quick egress from our Public Safety vehicles to do that and granted we have you know signalization and everything that's been put in place but um you know anytime you're adding that volume ex exactly right exactly um they provided no storm water plan so it's been really really hard to evaluate what the storm water impact would be uh again I'll draw a comparison to um you know what we saw with the mill proposal where we had an idea of what they were thinking of from a storm waterer perspective uh using underground systems and things like that you know we could we could point out where that could be a concern we really didn't have that much of an opportunity with this so um I think given all of that information or lack of information you can say um you know I have you know that the board uh is not supportive of this project as as it's presented and uh is asking Mass housing to to deny it as as presented did we ever mention did we ever mention the fact that this proposed project is directly across from the bracket Reservoir and the potential storm water coming off of that could potentially be an issue to the bracket res I don't think I mentioned specifically bracket reservation um but I did mention the fact Joe that you know given the pitch of the site the fact that there's a lot of ledge so you're not going to have a lot of infiltration you know both during construction and after construction you want to be concerned about the runoff I'm just want I'm just wondering if that may have been or could be a potential issue for them you know yeah I mean I can certainly add some spec specificity to that seems like a good idea um because you know the other thing is you're talking about again the pitch of the site and I know they plan on flattening it to a certain extent but it's it's not going to be that way way throughout the whole site you know you don't want to have a whole lot of water run off that washes onto Waverly Street or 135 that could freeze over especially you know that presents some challenges as we know that all too well from the public safety building right well and from cus right I mean that's built on a huge hill and the amount of problems they had and they and they had plans for their retaining pool and things like that so yeah yeah prior to being built so we were able to see that well and then they built it they had issues yeah so we did um so in addition to our letter you know I did like similar to the last packet include the information that we had received from other boards um and then also the information that we had received from the public and putting the form up and everything online questions or comments speak of storm water um I just have a question Mike you know in terms of the I know we talk about our our sewer um that all of our waste water goes through Framingham and that's through an inter Municipal agreement and um so so so we're at capacity in terms of or maximum what we are allowed to put through Framingham at this point yeah so there's different there's different limits Claudia so there's like an annual limit there's uh a daily limit there's a peak limit and uh with regards to the Framingham I am um we exceed what's allowable under our Peak limit at at certain periods like during certain storms and things like that okay so and and is it because um is there more capacity that that would be on us to purchase or is there not that capacity even out there there's potentially capacity that we could we could purchase you know the other thing that you hear us talk about in terms of being able to expand our capacity is working hard on our inii program um and making sure that any kind of leaks that we have in the system that contribute to what is flowing in as as part of our sewage is that's just regular groundwater is cut off so that preserves uh that capacity for actual sewage to flow right so there's you know time if you know how do we add all these units if we we can't or there isn't the capacity to to send the waste water through I I I think that is a a good question pretty good basic problem that is a a good question it's a pretty straightforward problem G already said that the sewer moratorium was well that the well the housing moratorium housing the sewer one the sewer was okay okay although just remember you know with a 40b project they don't that doesn't impact them yeah but if there's if there I just don't understand you know if there isn't the capacity to do it then well there's I mean and that is a broader conversation Claudia that's happening across the state especially with the NBTA communities law because there are some communities that don't have sewer and and so you know talking about you know putting projects in at the density of 15 units per acre um you know developing a septic system and having you know a a piece of property that can handle a septic system that would or an on-site wastewater treatment plant right um it's very very it's one of those open-ended questions that the state didn't necessarily think about when they went through and and passed this quote unquote well-intentioned law you know and then again in their proposal these are all apartments there's no nothing that no home ownership involved in this correct it's all rental and all and that doesn't have to be the case with a 40b correct right you you could have home ownership you can have home ownership um and obviously there's benefits uh to each each one um you know the primary benefit to the town for the rental units is that uh 40b you get to count all of the units towards your affordable housing inventory which gets you closer to that 10% which in turn allows you to turn away 40b projects that are not necessarily desirable um whereas with ownership projects you're only allowed to count the the affordable units the true affordable unit okay however and why that is I I still have not been able to get a straight answer and if and if the the real goal is to give people the opportunity to have you know perhaps ownership then it would seem to me that if if you're doing it for that reason right which is supposedly the reason this is happening that 40 BS are in place they are to provide affordable housing and I would think in the longterm some kind of ability to purchase and own then you need a you need a stepping ground right you you can't people aren't going to get ever get into the market for the most part if they don't have lower I don't know that their idea is that we're going to provide affordable housing and that's going to get more people in the market I think the idea behind a 4B yes they can do they can do purchase but the idea is just how how can we increase the affordable housing stock right and we're seeing more and more rentals rather than home ownerships right you're not seeing condos which is what you used to see in buildings like this right they would be Condominiums and part of it probably the affordability or the long-term profitability there's a lot right and yeah Poss Market factors really I would imagine Drive these sort of decisions C like in so far as these developers and what's profitable to them and out as rentals yeah no I understand that what the developers are in it for what I'm saying is what is the the state in it for right yeah yeah I think you know certainly you know when 40b was um Incorporated in the late 60s you know the world that we live in in Massachusetts was very very different in a number of different ways I do know with like the NBTA communities law you know what the the overarching goal is even though I think the state has done a horrible job of really kind of saying this is from an economic development perspective and the concern that you have high wage highly skilled workers that are leaving the state to other parts of the country because of high housing costs the idea is to create enough housing to and I would assume you know know by just through traditional Market forces bring housing costs down just through flooding the market with units that people will end up staying here my my a lot of years under the beyond that now a lot of years that we have history and it hasn't seemed to have done that well I agree and and quite frankly I think you know from one of the things that I've had a hard time with with the NBTA communities law is that you know those highly skilled High wage earners that are leaving the state because of housing are not leaving to find cheaper Apartments they looking to find cheaper single family homes they want a way to get into and that's just antidotal information on and I would say I would go so far as to say that maybe single family homes aren't necessarily everyone's goal any longer that that too has changed some but but I think that ownership the ownership piece probably still is there particularly for that those those people who are leaving the state because they're highly educated and they want um you know to work and be able to buy something I think there's they don't want to live in an apartment for right I mean I think there's a lot of complexity around this issue and you know I I think that there you know 20 years ago 25 years ago a strategy for uh folks I think in that meeting those demographics would probably be to initially rent and be able to save money to be able to put a down payment on a house uh anecdotally that's kind of how my hubby and I did it um but you know Market forces as they are availability how it is some of these apartments I'm looking at these rental prices they're almost as much as or even more than you know a mortgage situation so like the question is to Michael's point you know what kind of you know what what's happening here how are we achieving these goals um and then of course there's also the issue of you know not just the high you know people who are making a lot of money aren't the only ones who are having trouble trying to find a place to live you know so there's affordable housing and there's low-income housing there's a general housing crisis you know in the Northeast in our our city and I to all of your points I don't know if current policy uh direction or recommendations are addressing any of this adequately right um so you know I mean personally I I I think you know what the state should be concentrating on is more on the wage end you know um but that that's just me I can't remember if it was the times or the globe that did an article a couple weeks ago go just doing an analysis of renting versus owning because they are talking about the fact that more more people now are choosing to rent and making that choice as oppos and choosing consciously not to own that's right and they go through the the financial factors but of course it makes sense in some cases to rent only because housing prices now are so high Visa you know what your what people's incomes are what interest rates interest rates exactly money's expensive but it used to be that you did that you rented so that you could save money because it was cheaper to rent than it was to exact but the other thing to remember is this is all cyclical right it is I mean I remember when we were buying our you know we we were we did the same thing we rented an apartment for a number of years then we looked to buy I think our interest rates were 111 12 133% to buy our first condo wow right in the '90s that's what interest rates were for things 15 yeah yeah depending the even higher right and then they went back down and and now they're going back so it's it's just like housing and work and interest they're all it's all cyclical I hope econom getting taking notes Here economics a little e economics 101 we're sort of going a little off track but um any other questions or comments specifically to the comment letter that has been pulled together any changes or anything like that that you need to see so my question is are we planning to kind of Workshop this because I'm I'm not or or maybe we take a bit of a break and we have a chance to actually read this because I don't know if I'm comfortable voting on The Letter without having a chance to actually read the letter disagree I I think that's fair Randy because I to be honest I haven't really had a chance to really look at it or okay you just got it absorb it so either way like if we want to Workshop it together we could do well we could either Workshop it together or we could take 10 minutes and with that I mean some of it is similar to what we saw for the other letter um so either we can walk through this Michael took took us through some of it or we can take a 10-minute pause and have the opportunity to read through it which what are people feeling I mean the the other thing Yolanda is I mean I don't have a time like like noon tomorrow that it has to be in like it has to be in tomorrow so you know if you wanted to look at it overnight and provide me comments you know tomorrow during the day I can spend time um i' I'd rather take 10 minutes and read it through and then we can have some consensus and that would be helpful for everybody because you're going to need our vote on it and I'm not comfortable voting until I read it so I don't disagree yeah okay okay great that's okay so Mack I don't know if you can put something up on the screen we're going to take a 10-minute pause so we can read through this document and then we'll be back at 8:30 so if you're watching I just if you're joining us back thank you for your patience uh we we had continued discussing because we didn't want to hold on we are currently doing project priority project updates and Michael is updating us on the downtown project thank you Michael you're welcome so and um so you know those bids will be due I think um in a month to six weeks I don't remember exactly hopefully we'll get some good bids in rticipate in the work to be around $750,000 um hope knock on wood um and so that's one piece of good news um the second bit uh which is really really good news is that uh one of the things that we've been missing in terms of a key piece of infrastructure um is uh Transformers for the project uh my remember recall I've I mentioned that um specifically we were missing um two Transformers that you know specific specs you know that allows them to be underground and everything it wasn't an Ashland issue it was a Statewide issue um and I'm happy to say um through uh Senate President sp's advocacy I think she was an important person as part of this uh we did find out that those Transformers are going to be shipped on July 8th so um again thanks to the Senate President for uh for her for help in kind of loosening up the uh the uh the wheels uh to get that to get that moving so that's good so if I may interrup you on they're being shipped on the eth and we've had similar issues when we were doing the public safety building certain certain items are going to be shipped out a certain day do we have any idea when we're going to receive them and when will the work begin Joe nobody's guessing on those we just all we're saying is we they're where are they shipping from um China so answer that okay um it'll be a while got it y thank you um so yes so okay moving on to Mendes uh so work on the fields is continuing there has been some ongoing discussion um we' talked about it a previous meeting with um with concom like an enforcement order that's currently in place and stuff so uh I'm happy to say that on oh excuse me on Monday I think uh we've worked out an agreement uh to where everybody can move forward and feel comfortable with things um uh so we'll do a few studies with the understanding that they'll basically serve as a Baseline and not necessarily if anything adverse comes back um it's won't be basically held against the project so um so after many meetings and months that is over um so Pawn Street and I know we did receive an email uh recently just about some uh some potential rumors I think about the the lack of of movement happening on pwn Street uh so it did respond but just for the general public um there has been that project has stalled out a bit because one of the major components is uh doing a culvert pretty good siiz Culvert um needs to be redone over on the Market Basket side uh so that was designed and everything when they went to go build and implement it they found that it wasn't going to work so they're in the process of redesigning it now um not L exactly exactly uh that that that is my understanding from you know the people that I've spoken with um so that that color doesn't have any effect on taking the polls no that's another piece and so the utilities are are working I think it's Comcast is up next transferring the the the lines um so that is happening as well um we'll talk about uh P's Trail those going to be underground no those are not underground they're going to be on the new poles the new polls um just some projects that are not necessarily what we've what we've called priority projects but you know major projects and projects of Interest so uh the sidewalk on 135 so we did get the order conditions from the concom and so we do have the contract um is in place um with the Paving Company um that's also going to be do the paving company be doing the sidewalk work so um and so the Design's been finalized we've actually put together the draft letter uh that we're going to send to Residents notifying them of the work that's going to be done and this is a sidewalk that will go on the eastbound side from the crosswalk that we put in all the way to the community center or all or in front of them will it go all the way to Olive Street or where is it the community center okay yeah okay so um that um and we think that that work will be done before school starts that that is it it should be it should be yeah um so I think you know some of people might have seen updates on the Arboretum or Cadillac paint and just the fact that you know we do have the paving of the parking lots done uh just want to clarify and make sure everybody knows that the actual Trails themselves are still stone dust it's just parking lot that's paved um and so a design will be done over the summer and um with the hope that that will be completed and uh we'll start the plantings in the fall so isn't it looks so much better than what it was I mean it's hard to imagine what that site was um just a few years ago is it something that the public can go see or not yet like is it yeah they can they can access I mean the walk the trails are there and the parking is now is the is it lined yet I don't think LED parking is still locked off yeah still but I do know so let's wait until it's l then before yeah okay but I do know like residents in the area have have been taken oh yeah they've been walking there which is nice so um and then uh we're just another big one um that's more recent is uh just the ozone filter so we're working on that and um getting that out the bit have we done the design out the bit yet yeah okay so so that major that first major piece is done and then uh Clover roads um so the plane board process is complete and um shooting for an august/september opening nice open yeah okay John's doing some work and I was told that there will be a ribbon cutting July 18th for Starbucks Starbucks in the afternoon I think 4:00 is what I heard so yeah fingers crossed fingers crossed yes so a lot of good stuff happening in town um yeah I mean you kind of start adding up all these things it's a it's a good is that market that that's going into the old Dairy Queen is that still moving forward in the planning board process that got approved right that got approved THS oh wow good okay well that was quick that was quick so yes surprisingly yes okay um that'll be great update on the mass Trails Grant yeah um wow that was big yeah so a few months ago we put in a uh a a Grant application to the Mass Trails um Department division uh if you will for $300,000 which was the the max that we could apply for to uh for land acquisition or easement acquisition for a couple of PE pieces of parcel off of 126 um that is part of the upper Charles Trail and um I will be very very honest I thought we had a snowballs chance in hell um just kind of given kind of where we were with the property owner um but we found out last week uh that we were awarded that Grant $300,000 so we Yolanda and I as well as members of the upper Charles Trail committee um went to uh basically that celebration in Holliston on Friday have to get a lot of kudos to the upper Charles Trail committee um and Joel specifically Joel B Joel did a ton of work on that app ation um he he did a lot of work himself on that so um so major major congrats to everybody um uh thanks again to Senate President spila and uh representative Lewis for their advocacy uh for this project but um so the next step is just engaging with that land owner and F finalizing what that looks like and um I'm going to reach out to Joel and we're probably going to have him come to our second meeting in August to talk about about an update and next steps and where they see things and also sort of talk about how we want to move this project forward because there's a couple of different ways so that way to get people up to speed uh the the exciting thing about this and it was very nice being at the event is for those of you who don't know so our part of the upper Charles Trail the goal is to have a 33m loop that goes ashin to hopkington Hopkin to Milford Milford to Holliston into Sherborn little bit in Framingham and then back into Ashland so you have that Loop that then goes to Sherborn in Framingham so that you then have the North and South in Framingham they got funding to do what they call their Chris Walsh Trail which will go around Farm Pond which will then connect to the Bruce Freeman Trail which goes further north which then connects to another trail that goes Boston out to Northampton the other part of that is you go from Sherborne into Holliston and into Milford then the goal there is to continue south from Milford so that our little Trail our upper Charles Trail Loop will be not only part of a big structure here in Massachusetts but in What's called the north south Greenway basically the goal is to have a trail that goes from Maine all the way to Florida and this little portion so people could hop on their bike in Maine come down take a loop through Ashen come see all the great things we have in hollison and then continue on their merry Way South so that is there's getting there's a lot of federal federal support and funding there's a lot of State support and funding a lot of people have been working on this for a while of course if you don't know one of one of the drawbacks we have here in Ashland is we don't have that empty rail bed like Holliston did but I think we have our our Trails group and we've been working on this for a while I I foresee it happening it's just one of those things that's it's going to take a little while and if any of you have ever been at a Trails event with me one of the things I say is we've been working on our Trail actively for probably 10 years now we did the group Holliston had to work for 20 years on an existing on an existing railed so we have half the time we've made some good progress but these things take time fortunately right now there's a lot of funding and support at both the state and the federal level which was why this getting this grant was key for us to continue the work on that project and yolan if you don't mind just to explain a little bit because we say a lot you know what makes our project a little bit difficult is that we don't have an existing rail bed right so what makes it easier if you have an existing rail bed is to fold so first of all usually you're only dealing with one property owner right maybe two CSX and maybe you know another train related entity which makes you know whereas with us we've got 10 or 20 that were that we were dealing with property owners that were trying to work with or get easements from certainly purchasing the land in back of the public safety building is going to help with that connection look at how we can do it from the cemetery up in back of the public safety building up until the high school and with this grant getting funding so that we have the Dyke Trail off of 126 that heads East and if you've never walked that trail you should go check it out because it it's a really cool Trail and then the goal is to go now further west we already have it built in that we're going to cross Route 126 so now we're going to with if we can make this property purchase work we continue west from the D the um is it it's the dke trail so you know where the paintball company is on Route 126 as you're heading north just after it there was always this break in the guard rail and that's called the Dyke Trail it takes you into Framingham and Sherborne it's an it's an old trail I think there used to be a trolley there it was a trol so but it's been you know probably the late 1800s early 1900s since it's been there there's no more track it's just the raised area for the for the Dyke Trail and if you follow that from 126 it takes you from 126 into Framingham into a big CSX Yard Rail Yard yeah it's a rail yard from CSX so Framingham is in the process of trying to work with CSX they have some real fun they have some real funding in Framingham to bring theirs from the Chris Walsh Trail which is around Farm Pond they already have a little section of their trail that goes near um where's the mwrta road what's that road but it goes into downtown yeah so that d d I think so I want to say it's not Dudley no um um what's really cool and one of the reasons i' I know about this is the m our Metro West Regional collaborative helped kick off working with mapc they have someone in their group uh David luten Heimer who has been helping with these connections and again probably 10 n years ago we had a kickoff here in town hall where Not only was it the members of the Metro West Regional collaborative which was the eight you know 89 units but we brought in Holliston and Westboro and further west and further east and a little bit north to have the discussion and so that work is moving forward and again because of all this infrastructure money of wanting to improve and get people out of their cars is is one of the reasons this project keeps moving forward so Blandon Avenue Blandon that's it yeah Y and that's really cool yeah so so yeah um obviously great news so yeah yeah okay and then uh you listening Joel thank you for all your work yes thank you Joel oh uh just the last thing it wasn't on the agenda so Claudia Jen and I met with Framingham State Mass College building authority Mass State College building authority and the design design team if you will uh to talk about the Warren Barn last week too so had a good initial meeting thank you Claudia for being willing to do that okay now a number of reminders now that we're back live let's see vacancies on various boards and committees affordable housing trust has a vacancy for an associate member conservation Comm committee has a vacancy open space and Recreation committee has two vacancies storm water advisory committee has a vacancy sustainability committee has a vacancy Town Forest committee has a vacancy for an associate member if you are interested in any of those you can go to the website and fill out a talent Bank form uh and we will be appointing people as soon as we have some also the board is seeking resident to serve on the naming at the public safety building committee interested parties should complete a talent Bank form we'd like to have that done at our probably July meeting so that we can get the naming reviewed and moveed forward we are also seeking residents to serve on the historic district study committee interested parties should complete a talent Bank form and again that's one that's going to be a pretty short lift free covid tests are still available at Town Hall Town Hall will be closed next week on Thursday July 4th our summer meeting schedule our next select board meeting will be on Wednesday July 17th we are having a retreat meeting on August 7th and then we will be having another regular meeting on August 17th plus based on conversation we are going to be looking to do some joint meeting with the planning board and we will have probably two of them or different ones so be on the lookout for that that is everything on our agenda let's do board reports so Makita why don't you kick us off okay um let's see uh I think a few a few weeks ago uh I was uh delighted to be able to attend the Ashlin Pride Celebration In The Corner Spot uh put on by ashin United really tremendous Community event um unfortunately I had to miss the juneth celebration uh that area had last weekend but I was able to roll up my sleeves and participate in uh the Ashland Cemetery uh cleanup uh was really more like digging holes but it was it was a to be more specific lots of them but um but it would that was a a great educational opportunity to find out not just about you know a memorial art preservation and the importance of that uh but really learning about the history of the Town a little bit more so I was uh really energized to uh be part of that event and I know they're going to be looking for more volunteers to help with that um in the fall I think that's when their next push is going to be it was pretty hot out there it was a hot weekend but it was a lot of fun so good okay Claudia y so um we had a uh meeting of the mindes building committee recently and um you know that project is really wrapping up quickly they are doing a lot of site work now um and finishing up the fields kind of very exciting to see all that come to fruition we certainly could use some addition fields in the town um I think it was this week they were scheduling a walk through to just uh just check on the status of everything before we come up to um basically a year since completion in which case a lot of um the warranties would be potentially expiring so they they kind of um you know do that to make sure everything's what it should be at this point in time um Mike mentioned about the Warren Barn that certainly is exciting up there to um to have like Framingham State partnering with us and and certainly you know they're making so many changes up there in terms of what they've uh made available to community members they have a little restaurant Henry's place um they have a very small membership fee I think it's about $120 a year something like that and um 150 maybe and it includes um you know the ability to use the pickle ball courts to um use the the beach area and some of the boats and kayaks Etc so that's exciting what they're they're doing up there um and then on Saturday I was able to participate in our uh selectboard Town town meeting um and the juneth event um so that was really really an enjoyable um morning um enjoyed hearing the the speakers and they had some musicians that were very very talented and uh so that was a great day so I guess that's it for me okay Joe thank you madam chair um to pigy back what Claudia just said um participated at the farmers market uh select board table uh it was a lot of uh it was very interesting uh throughout the throughout the stay there um I actually stayed till the till the end because it was it was uh it was a lot of fun um love the music I thought I was in Animal Kingdom at Disney because of the music I mean it was phenomenal and and I it's and watching the kids as they were walking by they were dancing and they were celebrating it was just a lot a lot of fun it was fantastic I I I loved it immensely um the interesting thing about being at the table uh we had about 10 to 15 people throughout the day stop and um one of the major concerns of discussion that they brought up was the barage 40b project that are coming into town and what can Ashan do to prevent it explain to them there's not much we can do other than write letters to um Mass Housing and to try to get them to understand where we're at and the concerns that we all have and one gentleman uh didn't want to talk about uh the 40b project he was really concerned about waste management and asked about trash pickup and is there any current written action in the current contract that would penalize waste management for this repeated missing of trash pickup throughout the community and I asked I told him I said you know what I don't know I really don't know but I'll find out and we'll we'll ask so is there is there something I I I don't know yeah there is there's uh there's in there sorry in their contract there's a pretty well outlined and detailed uh list of penalties and um we have we have penalized them before um I want to say 6 months ago when it got really really bad I think they ended up racking up about $20,000 and what we'll call fines and their performance turned around a bit and uh but lately um we've been very very very uh I think discouraged with kind of where the performance is going and so actually this past Thursday in Friday there were a couple missp pickups and I instructed Doug to uh find them and I think there was a concern there was no mention that trash pickup would be delayed because of the holiday and I think confusing this past week it was very confusing so a lot of the residents and I know in my neighborhood some didn't put the the trash out and sure enough Waste Management showed up you know so their trash wasn't picked up and they you know they get a phone call what are we going to do I said said well give the DPW a call you know when they're open on on on on Friday and so you know you can have a call um my husband who is the family he lets everybody know if trash is going to be delayed um we get emails that go out to all the family members they can get put on his remember brought this up I did not bring this up he's happy to report that it was it was definitely confusing it there was no delay for and Wednesday was a national holiday so I would have expected trash to be delayed by a day and it wasn't and it was not they picked up on Wednesday so they're pretty they're pretty clear in the flyer that they put out we posted yeah of of what holidays are are considered um and I think with this being a new one people might have been confusing and lastly with respect to the F's Market uh being there for the table uh we had several new residents come up and introduce themselves yeah and they were they were ecstatic about the town uh they didn't realize that ashin offered so many different variety of uh opportunities and events for them and and they they said this is a lot better than where we came from and they were very happy and they look forward to uh staying here in town for quite some time and they were very very pleased and we all welcome them to to Ashland and a big shout out to uh Bill gath who uh last Tuesday received the Melvin Jones award um he uh that is the highest award that the Ashland Lions can bestow on Melvin Jones was the international founder of the of the lions in the United States so congratulations Bill and uh during this heat advisory I just would like to remind everybody to check on their senior citizens uh if they live in the area make sure they're okay make sure they have you know a cooling area or provide a right to a cooling station or Center that's that's made available through the town community center right which is our community center in the library uh so and and make sure they have plenty of water to stay hydrated and uh AOC I mean ACL also advises us to make sure that our furry friends are also uh in the shade or inside where it's cool and keep them hydrated as well traffic study committee would uh will met on the 18th and we that's many concerns that the residents have we would love to be able to put sidewalks and crosswalks on every single Street of the road uh in town but that's not going to happen because of budgetary issues and um we are we are working to the best of our ability but everything comes down to human nature you know it's people that drive they drive fast they don't pay attention to the signs you know we have signs up not to through away but people still go through it anyway because they don't want to be delayed and it's very frustrating extremely frustrating so uh bear with us we're working on it and that's all I have Madam chair thank you thank you Joe brand um I'll be pretty quick um I just wanted to thank the ashin farmers market and area for a really great juneth program um uh it was it was uh great to to to be there on behalf of our board um and you know the table that we had was um thank you guys for for for pitching in on on office hours at the farmers market um I think the way that the it it like Joe said it's a really great way for people to come and talk to us which is which is you know it's it's a good opportunity um I did want to talk a little bit about the um our next dates at the farmers market just so we can make sure that we're all on the same page um generally we're trying to do like one a month um and the July date I know that the um I think it was the 13th or the 12th or whatever that date 13th the 13th and the 20th were the two dates that I had floated by the farmers market came back and said they couldn't do the 13th so and I know a lot of folks can't do the 20th um do we want to look at the 27th or do we want to just do the August date the August 10th because with the with the 4th of July holiday and everything in there like I I'm just so I wanted to just see what you guys thought about that I I'm not sure what we're doing but okay I know summer's hard hard the I'd like to recommend is maybe we reach out to a couple like school committee and planning board and say hey we're getting the community tent for one of these dates does you guys want to join us because that could give us different coverage I don't because I don't know if they're actively doing that we can do that it's not a bad idea I I I think that's that's great and that way there's some there's coverage and there there's actually more folks that people can come up and right interact with yeah so do we want to tentatively think to do maybe that that July 20th date and then ask I'll I can reach out to to right you know just send send it out to to their whole board to both planning and school committee and say hey we're looking to do a town tent do you guys want to join us for part of it all of it whoever wants to show up okay yep all right that sounds good all right so okay and then we'll plan on August 10th as well as a the next dat okay y okay um and just to piggyback on what you guys were talking about with the with the Community Club over at Framingham State this upcoming Sunday is an ashin day so it's the second one yeah so um I hadn't seen the thing about the first one and then I was like oh it's a so it's a good opportunity to go test it out so if you guys want want to go rent Kayaks or um I think on Sunday this next Sunday coming they had it this past weekend as well I saw that you have to sign up for it but you can try out like standup paddle boards and stuff like that which I always am scared about but um but it uh they have all sorts of stuff over there pickle ball and tennis and things like that I'll try that standup uh paddle board Randy with you if you if you're looking for someone to be a buddy to be adventurous with all right deal both of you on the same board holding on moral support moral support probably going to be a scenario yeah so resting on my knees there's no standing yeah and then just the only other thing um when when Joe and I were at the the table at the farmers market our friend uh David Sandro came over and was talking to us and David's such a great guy and he watches our he watches our meetings and so he um even records them so I he says to us all the time that he sees us on TV so I I I told him we'd give him a shout out y go so um David we know you're watching and thank you for for hanging in there with us so yes good to see you last weekend great that's it okay couple things we received a letter from the from Comcast and I just wanted to read it to the public so you're aware as part of their ongoing commitment to keep our customers informed about changes to xinity B TV services we wanted to notify you that the Pack 12 network is seizing operation on June 30th 2024 so as a result the Pack 12 network will no longer be available as part of the Comcast lineup so if you watch that I don't know if you do they've also then implemented a channel slate change and you can check that out to keep our customers informed during this period and you are getting notified of this in your statement but I figured we could read it here as well should probably see a slight decrease in your bill probably not yeah no couple things so legislative event with Metro West Regional collaborative happened on June 14th it seems like forever ago was a great event was so fun to have a lot of different communities together and discuss we didn't have that many legislators because they were dealing with budget still but it was it was a good event uh Claudia touched base on the Mendes I don't have to do that talked about Ashen day at the University Club last day of school was J was June 18th so congratulations to everyone who finish the school Year and be safe and sound until through your summer two other updates for in uh issues around town so at the outdoor YMCA Center they now have outdoor new pickle ball courts oh and there is a ribbon cutting happening for that on Thursday and then if you love Halloween and you enjoy acting or even just want to give your hand at acting uh the proog there's a uh a new event it started last year called The Haunt It is a fundraiser between the hopkington Center for the Arts and the ym Metro West YMCA and they are holding auditions on Sunday for people who would like to go it's a two weekend event in the end of October you don't have to commit to both week end but if you love Halloween and you want to have an opportunity the event this year is a wedding at dead Woodville where they have a I think it's a moral the groom is mortal and the bride is Immortal so some of the signs have been around town what do this event like so so is it like an acting opportunity is it like acting it's an acting and Andor dance opportunity got it you audition to be a witch or you audition to be one of the members of the town so you could be part of the church you could be a bridesmaid you could be they have so when they did it last year they had a doll shop they had a town hall they had an electric chair they had a laundry they had chops um chops Diner uh and because it was out on the YMCA property they had their their camp and someone died at camp and so uh yeah so if you enjoy Halloween and you want to participate they are looking for a lot lot of volunteers because as I said it's a two weekend Endeavor this year and they're looking for people you don't have to commit to both weekends so but you can go to HCA their website and there are some signs around town talking about it and that's all that I have so our next meeting will be on Wednesday July 17th so happy 4th of July be safe with your friends and family be aware of our First Responders who are going to be out there keeping us all safe one one quick yes go I'm sorry I'm sorry I just wanted to bring up that uh our next summer con is going to be July 19th it's a town U Metro West favorite band uh it's uh Back Pages they're very very good I'm sure you've heard them before uh the folks that know Inky far and and his band that's who they are come and enjoy them um our last uh concert was that first concert last Tuesday we had about 125 people show up the first one which was very nice so we appreciate that and starting next week July 5th Ashland will be selling its favorite corn oh nice be ready to see that that lucky farm so okay I have a quick question just about trash findes where where does that money go when we find them so Claudia it's technically not a it's it's not done as a fine it's actually done as a withholding of payment oh so like so they send us an invoice of you know $100,000 and let's just say they've racked up 20,000 in fines you know we would send them $80,000 with the I think maybe we give everybody a free bag or something yeah I have one more Point yeah um yeah with the July 4th weekend coming up uh I just wanted to remind folks that in Massachusetts uh fireworks are illegal uh so uh I think that um you know with pets and kids and such you know just be careful and be safe uh take the chair's words to heart but also remember that those fireworks are something that we want to keep out of the hand out of little hands especially but really out of everybody's hands or you might lose a hand so and there's certainly enough places that are doing fireworks oh so many Holliston is doing stuff June 28th in Framingham June 28th yes they're doing something Ms belong in New Hampshire m80s belong in New Hampshire yes they do and thank you to the three life Scouts that are in our audience tonight along with their sponsor Mrs K Michael thank you very much I learned something tonight that a life Scout is the next step before Eagle Scout and I just learned that tonight so congratulations to you three thank you cool is great if I can get a motion to adjourn so move and a second second all those in favor I thank you for joining us sorry for the hiccup with power outages not much we can do about that and we will see you again at our next select board meeting on Wednesday July 17th but I'm sure we'll see you out and about at either the farmers market or other great events stay safe and we'll see you all in a few weeks thank you thanks everybody
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persons wishing to be heard on this matter are invited to attend the public Hearing in person or by logging on to the zoom meeting interested parties who are unable to attend the hearing May submit written comments to the select board's office Town Hall 101 Main Street ashin mass 01721 or by emailing Susan Robby at sroy Asin mass.com Okay so we've announced the public hearing and we are reviewing a change of stock option for this uh entity and that's it um if we are William if you could come up and take us through the change and why it's necessary okay actually motion to uh open the public hearing which I read second all those in favor I I perfect good evening Goldberg from Main Street Wine and Spirits uh this is just house cleaning on some paperwork that uh that came to our attention in the past year just um when my father uh passed almost 27 years ago and my uncle passed five years ago they never properly split their businesses in the eyes of the Alcoholic Beverage Control Commission and so uh this is all this is is just letting them know that my dad and my uncle don't own the business anymore okay good and we um unfortunately Susan's not here but either Jen or Michael from what I can tell we had everything we needed in our packet to approve this okay okay okay and as far as I'm aware we have not received any comments okay okay well congratulations on you your new business or about to be your new business any um questions or well anyone here to speak against this not that I expect that but we just need to go through um any comments or questions from the select board regarding this is bullard's Market still in operation it is under new ownership okay because that was the other that was your your uncle's business right that's right okay that's right all right his uh his son sold it to the person had' been working there for about 30 years so okay and that that took place last year last year yeah that's pretty much when all this came to light all came to light gotcha okay okay thank you wel okay any other questions or com comments I can get a motion to close the public hearing so moved second all those in favor I and then if I can get a motion to approve the stock change as presented so moved second all those any other discussion seeing none all those in favor I and that carries 4 Z you are all set all right thank you all now now congratulations now congratulations congratulations it's finally M there you go there you go now the fun starts thank you right great nice kid okay moving on I see Steve Greenberg is here so if it's okay with Steve and everybody else if he's actually still there okay until we see him we will uh move on CU my understanding is that Steve is giving the presentation from the affordable housing trust okay so let's keep going down our old and new business until we see Steve come back uh vote to approve a one-day bino Bingo license request from K&B crayons and Beyond to be held on August 9th 2024 at the VFW 311 Pleasants street we have the information this is basically just their looking for a one-day license to be able to do uh this program and it is a fundraiser for KB's crayons and Beyond a non-profitable a nonprofit charitable organization Michael we just need to vote to approve the one day license correct any questions comments concerns okay uh I move that we approve the uh I I would ask for a motion to approve the one day beo license as requested so moved okay second great any other questions or discussion all those in favor I great and that passes good luck to them and if not doing anything that day go and support do we all need to sign should yeah you should sign you should sign a license okay we'll do that after the meeting yeah so remember no one can leave until we've signed that license great wonderful still no Steve well he's oh he just needs to maybe he doesn't realize he's here oh now he's gone now he needs to be must be on some good medicine right he might night we want to make him co-host yep okay well as we continue working on that uh Michael want do the town hall yes let's do the update on the assessment of the Town Hall sure so um so just a couple of updates related to town hall and essentially the infrastructure so one of the things that we have been working up on is um first of all basically securing the building uh had a significantly cracked beam um based on when the renovation was done I think around 2005 so what happened was the proper supports wasn't putting put in place in order to support the HVAC systems that were put in place so unfortunately that led to a pretty significant crack and twist in one of the main supporting beams which um so we've ended up going through and you know having to get an architect and engineer and so that's been fixed and secured so that's number one um the second thing we've been doing is I mean as you can see the exterior you know we painted it probably eight or nine years ago but it's looking a little tired a little rough so instead of just looking at painting this time um one of the things that we've done is uh Doug Scott our Building Commissioner who's kind of heading this project he went and secured a lift uh with an architect to actually go through all the town hall and the exterior and kind of look at the places that's have rotted and and all of that good stuff and making determinations of what needs to be replaced and how it can be replaced and so he's taken that assessment and putting it all together and we'll put that out to bid later this year to do the work like whatever kind of replacement work needs to be done and then as well as uh painting and so one of the things I will make clear is that um you know we used a composite material for the steps because we felt that that was probably most appropriate but you know for the town hall proper if you will the exterior you know we'll be using more like the historical period materials you know wood Clapper and stuff like that so good so anyway yeah it was um as we all know how how hot it was last week and so you know Doug uh we've got some good shots of Doug up on the lift um with all the safety harness and stuff so so has that mean support being been reped or it iness so it has been repair yeah and there were a couple of other things like apparently there was another support that was supposed to be put in place place um really kind of I'm looking up because it's kind of in this area and it was not so that's been taken care of and addressed not anymore we probably should have moved a long time ago Joe uh but now we're in good shape so okay any other questions um just um we had we had budgeted for this this year right like we had when we were looking at the budget for this was part of that allation mli the 8 million yep are we thinking that this is going to you know depending on like how much replacement and stuff is that is it going to align with what we had projected the the cost would be it should I mean I we I think we'd put in 450 okay and yeah that should cover it I was kind of hoping we'd have some more left over but it doesn't sound like you know based on Doug's estimation that that's going to be and unfortunately pricing right now for cards like you know are are higher so exactly yeah oh nice nice okay any other questions or comments on the town hall question about the painting a question about the painting um do you ever consider using Rhino Shield Joe I think given the historic nature of the yeah the building something yeah are you you're talking about like a a composite type of more like a plastic it's it's it's the type of it's the type of paint right it's more of a plastic it's a ceramic it's a ceramic ceramic type of yeah I think we' probably be looking more at the traditional you know acrylic or I'm just saying it would last longer and it would save the town's taxpayers money over the years type of deal yeah I mean if if we wanted to go in that direction um then I mean we would look at something like a composite type of material for the siding but given that this building's on the national register I'm not sure exactly what kind be question to see if they would they would allow that you know because I know a lot of historic places down down in Florida are using it so yeah yeah I'm I'm trying to remember the exact the Secretary of interior standards I get to know those with the Valentine with quite a bit um and and there's certainly times when it is appropriate to use that I if I remember correctly it's really more in a location that's not very visible to the public um but Town Hall was just on Chronicle on Monday right that's true true we don't want to so okay good see seeing no other questions on the update on the town hall project and we see Steve Greenberg Steve welcome thank you uh if you're ready apologize for technical difficulty I try to uh unmute and unv video but uh here I am great so thank you for uh inviting me to this evening's meeting and uh happy to answer any questions and maybe first I could tell you a little bit about what's new and what's going on with the affordable trust that'd be great sure currently uh there's a property on Main Street that uh the trust has been working with the property owner and Habitat for Humanity uh to develop a single family home on that property and that's been a a long time uh vacant parcel of land that uh we're we're excited about the possibility of developing an affordable unit there and habitat's been great to work with the property owners have been great to work with so uh they're working their way through the process and the state so U look forward to Habitat coming in front of various boards in town in the very near future and getting something uh put up on that lot that serves the affordable housing numbers here in town great another uh project we have been working I'd like to say collaboratively with the with the select board is uh Olive Street and uh the former sipson property that the town has owned for quite a while that property was purchased a long time ago with Community preservation act funds two buckets open space and affordable um it's a property that that has some Uplands on the on the street and uh a lot of wetlands in the back and I think uh beavers probably enjoy that property more than anyone but uh we uh you know we did some Wetland studies years ago we had all that updated and approved with through the Conservation Commission and uh we took those new boundaries and uh setbacks and the trust retained a landscape architect a gentleman by name of Stephen Cosmos and uh he's come up with uh some scenarios of very uh limited scope because again of the um the wetlands uh sort of make it a uh a small envelope so um I have a document I can if I'm allowed to I could share screen with everyone or uh just talk about it whichever you prefer it would be great if you could show it I believe you're set up to co to um as a co-host okay yeah so you can just share your screen here with me yes so Joe it this didn't get into our packet but you all should have received it via email from Joe is that is that visible very good yep that's it okay so what um the landscape architect has done has taken a section of Olive Street that probably has the greatest depth in term in terms of setbacks with with Road wetlands and uh zoning and come up with a couple of different scenarios here that challenge uh both access to the parcel and uh and the number of units so the top left has six units with 12 parking spaces as does the uh the U rendering on the viewers right the uh parking gets a little complicated but the purpose of uh putting something like this together would be in the hopes of with the select board's approval going out uh with a request for proposals that gave those who might be interested in developing 100% affordable units on this property some ideas of what they could potentially develop so we would have for someone who' be interested a full set of uh wetlands and topography and approvals as well as these particular renderings maybe they could come up with something that fits better looks better um maybe has a few more units but again it's it's very Compact and uh so that would be the affordable component of the property and again because of the extreme Wetlands there um I think the balance of the property would be for those to uh enjoy whether they want to walk back there and get their feet wet or uh just have something pretty to look at okay so that's um that's something we'd again like to further discuss with the select board to see if they'd be uh interested willing to go forward with an RFP and uh I think the other most recent update to the affordable trust is that we're at full membership Carlton Phelps has joined our ranks so that brings our membership to five and uh he's new he's new to the uh to the trust but in our last meeting he very much participated and we look forward to his future interest and and future additions to the uh to the trust and what we're trying to get done great questions or comments Claudia go ahead and then Brandy hi Steve um just I have a couple of well one question about the Main Street property um so how does that work when somebody like the owners have are selling it or well they must be selling it to Habitat for Humanity to build well um like any real estate transaction Claudia you need site control um so they have site control they have a purchase and sale agreement with the property owners they needed that to uh present not only to to various boards here in town but to the state okay so uh there is a contract they haven't shared it right right I think that's private between them and the property owner but um so I guess I guess the thing that I was trying to get at is if somebody owns property and they um you know want to make it available to a developer who would build something or in this case Habitat for Humanity is it is it sold at a competitive market or is rate or is it discounted in some way or does the the state participate because it's um going to be you know for affordable housing or um I don't think the state contributes in terms of of financial yeah um I think the big Financial contributor here will be the town of ashin through the affordable trust yep uh because you know to as mentioned earlier in talking about rehabbing town hall construction costs are silly um soft costs to get something approved is not cheap so I would say that you know 10 years ago 15 years ago the purchase price on this property uh is probably what's reflected in the contract so it's um it's probably a 25 30% of what would be market rate but um I think cloudy it all depends on the project but you know sometimes property is donated right you know the YMCA project is is a donated parcel yeah I know I know it is yeah it's not the easiest parcel and maybe that's why it's still available yeah but um I hope I answered your question or if I didn't please tell me how I can better better answer the question yeah no I I think you have and then um the the Olive Street property um so that is so that's currently owned by the town and then for it to be affordable units how does how does that work there they're set by that the certain formula in terms of price um there is is are there some priorities given to people who work for the town it depends on the size of the final project okay um I I think unfortunately with Main Street that won't be the case but I think that can be certainly part of the RFP that um Town residents might get uh certain advantages in the potential ownership or rental of the property on Olive Street um but um it's pretty strict guidelines about that the um again as as I mentioned earlier the parcel was purchased with CPA funds out of the two buckets open space and affordable so um anything that was sold there would have to be affordable or built there would have to have deed restrictions relative to Affordable so I hope that answers your question yeah so and and those though a developer there right it is it are they I'm just asking I guess it is developing a prop property that is going to be affordable housing as lucrative as it would be to go and and develop a property that isn't affordable housing or you know I'm trying to understand what the impetus would be for a developer to step up um there wouldn't be impetus for a market developer okay this is a project that uh entities like habitat or others that might be looking for tax credits but I don't think that would be the case here uh this is not a financial gain by uh the town or the developer if we do something on H Street or Main Street it's uh it's a negative it's a negative Capital uh you know Improvement if you will Stephen couldn't they go to the state right there's there's housing the the Housing Authority at the state that if they're building affordable housing they can get some kind of financing as well there's funding available for that if you look at um like Robert Hill way they were able to get how some funding to help build that parcel build that Rober Hill Way was actually um a federal program and there were tax credits and that that took years to get approved yeah yeah on many different levels that that took years to get approved um in a in a case like U Main Street and a case like Olive Street I think the um the financing would most likely come through a state approved Agency for the homeowner right but in terms of uh Development and Construction I think it would be U one of the primary uh fund sources would be the trust right okay and then and then you're always kind of looking for a non a nonprofit developer if you will absolutely okay and are those um do we is there a pool from which we kind of seek out I know we put out an RFP but do we also advertise it with oh I I think that you know be willing I think Jen could speak to that uh but the irfp is um broadly advertised uh based on state guidelines 30b guidelines and uh there are a number of nonprofit developers out there I don't see a lot of them U banging on the door to to get a project that is going to depend on a local uh funding and uh and possibly some State assistance but I think we can get it done I'm actually very confident we can get it done at a price right the other thing too is the developer doesn't have to purchase the the land because that's Town owned land so that there's there is that component of it right for the Olive Street par the street they're they're starting at a different point than if they had to purchase so the profitability is is a little bit yeah so I think there'd be some subdividing you know I don't I don't see um if it's a if it's the individual units are purchased I don't see those individual units taking uh any ownership of the balance of the land available in the back I think we would have to uh look at a plan that's subdivided out the development parcel and the rest would stay with the time and what is the in terms of their the going through to the permitting of that with the planning board and that is it what's that similar to is it typical it be similar to it would be a 40b yeah it's similar to a 40b that's I guess so it be the zoning board of appeals okay Michael you wanted to add something and then yeah so so Steve what you're saying is like we would have to give the property basically to the developer and then we would probably need to make an additional Financial contribution right to make it financially feasible that's 100% correct from the trust from the trust the TR correct from the trust from the town you know it comes from the town from CPA to the trust to the developer and the trust right now has significant funds um well those funds aren't as significant as they used to be but there there are there are in the trust there's so I also Envision um when we get there to go to town meeting and um let's say what the town has to say about this project and uh ask for some funding at that CPC at that time right so right now uh there's still affordable I mean there's housing money sitting in the CPC bucket that has to be then moved from CPC to the trust but so the monies are were not be on top of what the tax rate in any way shape or form no no okay thank you Randy so thank abolutely um thank you Steve and and the whole affordable housing trust for all the work on the Olive Street project um I know the last time I think that you were here we were talking about you know what potentially that could look like and you had to do a lot of work on the the wetlands deliniation and all the the the surveying and all the the you know the groundwork to even get to this point so seeing seeing a sketch with with actual units on it is is uh pretty pretty cool I think so so um so thank you for all the work on that and I'm I'm looking forward to to seeing this kind of go go to the next step um I was just curious you know you had mentioned ownership or or rental and you know are these are these looking to be like probably two bedroom units or how big how big of how big little houses are these or or I guess that's I think the state refers three bedrooms if it's a property for sale um so I think that would be the U the way we would hopefully write into the RFP and uh I think I think in a development like this uh the trust has talked about it for a long time and I I think Joe uh would back me up on this that we're thinking more of a for sale rather than a for rent okay I certainly like to see home owners and you know what happens with entities like Habitat for Humanity there's a lot of Sweat Equity from the purchasers that goes into literally from the ground up they're involved in the construction and uh you know pride of ownership I think is important so you know we certainly want these to be an asset to the town and to those that are going to live there great um and then so as far as the weather it would be you know is it like you look at certain Ami for for these types of units you would you look at Joe just said 80% so um likely that's kind of what you're looking for yeah okay all right yeah you know I think they would probably sell probably you know in today's world they probably sell around $300,000 which okay you know that's affordable in today's book absolutely well not really but it that's what the numbers say um so just to talk about the 80% it's 80% Ami the area mean income so who would be eligible for these types of units um and with the am with the current median in 12,000 property it's it's the so the larger the family the uh more income they're allowed to make Ashlin is in the so the the districts are set up by Hut Ashlin is in the Boston District so the allowable income is quite substantial you know 100,000 plus so the larger your family the more you're allowed to make okay and and it has to be your first home is that true uh there are some caveats there Claudia but typically your first home okay and this is into perpetuity so um deed restriction would be in perpetuity I think that'd be one of our not only the town but the state's requirement right and just just from a time frame perspective um what what are your thoughts about like timing for you know to put this out to bid for an RFP and um what I'm looking at gen to um so I was just curious from from from your perspective what what that kind of looks like well if if you want to make a motion uh certainly look forward to working with uh with Jen to uh out yeah I I just like there's a lot involved in these things I also think you know we're doing our Retreat the first meeting in August and we can talk about timing and how this fits into the other projects I think a lot of work has been done but I think before we I mean I I'm with you I'm like ready to jump in but we know that a lot needs to be done uh any other questions or comments because if not I have a yeah the only quick comment I wanted to make with with respect to what Brandy just brought up is that the Whitland delineation we were really surprised that how much land we actually lost over the years yeah uh when we did our first uh Whitland delineation and it's quite substantial I mean we talk tell by we're talking about a ball field we wanted we were thinking about putting a passive you know Recreation part of it that's all gone yeah all of it's all gone because of the delineation all well because how the wetlands have increased how how they increased yes would climate change would that be uh I think be the Beavers more than anything else the Beavers the Beavers so Steve thank you for coming and and chatting with us I just had a couple of comments slash thoughts on housing and what we're trying to do here in in Ashland one of the complaints I hear from a lot of people is we're doing a lot of rentals and not a lot of purchase so the idea idea that these would be for purchase rather than rental I think is a great idea uh the other thing to think about is I'm looking at the floor plans and you know their three bedroom we also are hearing that people are looking for other forms of housing right they're not looking for maybe larger units they're looking for smaller units um instead of these being single you know single family is it possible to make these two family but smaller um just things to think about is it something that we could do senior right small senior housing that's affordable I don't know those are just some of the things that I've heard people say certainly the the small house thing that you're you know it's sort of something that's a lot of people are talking about instead of having a bigger house having a smaller house we could potentially fit more units on the the land any thoughts on that I do have a thought on that and it's unfortunate um I've had the pleasure of putting my sister's house on the market she lives in uh she lives in Hoppington on Lumber Street she's surrounded by mcmansions m and and uh the house is 780 Square ft I'm not going to divulge the uh price that it's under contract for but you would be shocked I can imagine talking between four and $500,000 yeah for 780 foot house so know bring that house to Ashlin you're talking about $425,000 y um I think I think the development world out there um has a has a good understanding of the market and and the right nonprofit developer knows what uh the state wants and what the town wants and I think we can we can guide an irfp to get uh as much baying for as many buckes we have to spend as possible okay great yeah I I think all three of these I I like the ones where they go completely off the street to get into the development I think because of Olive Street and either the oneway circle around or the entrance in and out something that gets the houses and their front part so there's not all the homes are not going in and out of Olive Street yeah right okay great any other questions or comments for Steve gentlemen any questions that you would like to ask no the reason I'm asking that Steve is we have three boy three Boy Scouts here who are learning yeah so they they came specifically to hear about affordable housing I'll be happy to talk to them anytime yeah yeah so you can reach out to Steve Greenberg he's he's very knowledgeable he's our is so great get better my friend if there's no other questions yes feel better Steve if there's no other questions uh thank you very much Steve for coming and speaking with us and we look forward to moving these projects along thank you I appreciate the opportunity speak thank you for you thank you for your work on this yeah okay byebye so many years ago Jen and I and Brandy had the opportunity to actually work on a Habitat for Humanity house when it was being built in Holliston so I think that's certainly one of the things that as habitat comes into our community with this house they I'm sure would offer opportunities for people who want to volunteer to help build it's actually pretty cool to go and help and then see the house get built and as Steve said with Habitat for Humanity whoever is selected to be moving into the home they also have to put so many so much time and energy working on building their own home Steve called it Sweat Equity yeah great okay wonderful thank you for sharing the information Joe beforehand appreciate that moving on in our agenda update on the de Andi project Michael and probably Makita as well yeah definitely and and Makita or Jen please feel to jump in here but um so you know I'm happy to say that we've basically concluded our engagement with I success Consulting and T Rene Smith um the energetic Dynamo that is the principal of said firm um and uh so we got basically a a lot of good actionable information from the surveys and the interviews that we did which was a key component uh the first component of of this stage which is developing a Dei action plan and um again just to kind of refresh everybody's memory we did um interviews and surveys of both um you know Town leadership also employees and then also community members and basically got their take on U basically what their experiences have been uh and what they have witnessed and things that they feel that are important in the Dei realm moving forward and we got a variety of responses back which we did review as the Dei task force with um uh with the consultant so since that time um Jen and I have met with our department heads to to review basically the employee um stuff and go through that and talk about basically what our potential next steps could look like um we still have to meet as the Dei task force and do the same thing and I think our although we don't have specifics right now our next step we know is to do more of a communication out with the community to explain this is kind of where we are with the process this is what we've heard and then these are a couple of steps that we're going to take based on the on the information that we've received from an will the report be available for the public to read yes okay um and so that's pretty much it in a nutshell Makita or Chen do you you know have anything to to to add to that no it was a pretty good run that was a pretty good rundown of of what's happening so yeah I don't really have anything to add Michael thanks for the recap yeah thank and thanks to the Dei task force again and Makita and Jen being a part of that but then also the other members I think they've been uh very very critical in terms of providing feedback a good set of eyes good questions um to help guide this process and thanks to the community and everybody that participated let's say yeah absolutely will we be able to take this report and roll it into our work with the comprehensive plan yes perfect yes and that that was one of the primary I was about to say that was a key focus of what we were trying to do here so absolutely great yeah mck and I very very in sync in terms of the fact that from the very beginning that we can't have a plan that is sitting on the shelf it has to be right right it has to be actionable and it has to be executable so yeah okay any other questions regarding the project from anyone else comments one quick question were you guys satisfied with the it came out surprise there any surprises that you didn't take you know I well I'll take the the first part um you know I think that the methodology was sound I was actually very impressed with the uh consultant and um how they actually conducted the survey and and just uh how we gathered the data I think was very sound and solid so you know the results that we have are a good starting point I think for us uh it's not the end all be all certainly won't uh you know give us any sort of uh complete answers uh but I think it's a good starting point yeah Michael I don't know if you have or Jen if you have anything to add around that yeah I I thought like Makita said I think the survey the the methodology and everything was sound so I do believe that what we have is a good accurate uh base from which to make decisions from or to work from I think the range and the breadth of answers that we had elicited I guess you could say like a range of different thoughts and maybe even emotions for me and I'm sure for everybody else um I was very appreciative of some of the data that we received especially from some of the employees because it didn't um you know even though it was focused on diversity equity and inclusion um you know there were some other things just about culture that kind of um came through that was pretty interesting and um something that I think that we can use moving forward so and this included not just general government but the schools as well know the well I mean people um certainly opined and offered their opinions on schools yeah but um but it was not yeah so that I think that there are a lot of opinions about many things um in town uh the town Services especially but also just business you know folks experience generally in town around this um and of course there are a lot of families who are part of the schools who responded and shared some of their experiences um in that survey as well but there is definitely Joe to get back to to answer the second part of your question there is definitely a diversity of opinion of of uh different experiences in town around this issue so I think again I think it's going to be a solid foundation for us to uh start rolling up our sleeves and taking some action so when you talk about staff you're talking about General government staff was part of that and part of that discussion I mean I know the schools have been doing some work as well exensive work several years ago even for sure okay great any other questions or comments no thank you Makita for being on that thank you Michael and Jen for your work on that I know it's it's very important that we look at what we're doing in our community because of how our community has changed in the last 15 20 years it's it's definitely our community looks a lot different than it did before so yeah well like you know I think every Community should change no matter what the community itself looks like I think that um you know we are a world we're not just a these insular communities anymore or even countries right everything is um and I don't think we can ever have real peace and in a a good world when there are people starving and people uh you know there's too many imbalances right throughout the world so um I think uh it's nice to certainly be in a community that Embraces that but everybody needs to great thank you for that Claudia moving on discuss and vote on the Mass housing comment letter for the Oasis at Ashland located at 61 Waverly Street and as of today we have received 40 comments you all should have received this packet unfortunately it was as we were coming in but there's a lot of similarities to this response as there was to the mill response where we had a lot of input so Michael do you want to take us through this and is there any big difference that we need to be aware of um well there there's there's a few I I think not necessarily big ones but things that you know we should kind of run through and uh you know as you mentioned Yolanda you know you all got this as you're coming in and um I do apologize for that this obviously uh way later than gives you an opportunity to kind of digest this and and um you know make some comments associated with it but um you know essentially you know the the letter itself I I mean the the lead in in terms of our rationale against why we think this project is not good the way it is presented um really hinges upon the work that we've already done in developing housing throughout the community um both in terms of what has been built and what has been permitted um and then you know we also reference the fact that there is an additional 250 units that we're talking about aside from what we've detailed here that is at least I I guess you could say for lack of a better term on the table with the mil proposal currently before Mass housing uh so this is a little bit of a different project and a little bit different site than the mill first of all um the whereas the mill has been seen and visible and has been talked about in plans put together for you know four years um you know this site itself really we haven't seen anything about it for you know since since I've been here for for a while so it's relatively new and then also I think um you know there's very there's very little information that's required by Mass housing um as part of their application package um and I think you know with the developer with like the mill project SV which has experience in Massachusetts doing a lot of um a lot of 40b projects I think in their application you see a lot of data even more and above what's required from Mass housing whereas with this one um it is a relatively new development company in at least in Massachusetts um you know technically their their LLC for this project is RSP Acquisitions but it's essentially the parent company's posern realy Group which um is based out of Rhode Island and they've done a couple projects now in mass or at least have one uh that's built and one that's in in the in the pipeline but they provided relatively little data um associated with their application as well so it's been hard for our boards and committees to um and our staff really to kind of take a look at it and um and basically find specifics to I don't want to necessarily say take issue with but at least evaluate um but that being said there are some um and just again like the the project design itself so if you're just looking at Aesthetics you know you look at what was envisioned by the town through the Wildwood mixed juuse District where this project is located um which was you know really supposed to be a self-enclosed and self-contained mixed use District that had a variety of uses like commercial residential open space recreational um you know obviously the project as proposed uh through this 40b sticks strictly to residential and um so it just in that element in that Essence it kind of goes against what the town had envisioned um specifically with regards to the buildings themselves so the height um is something that I think that we've all taken issue with so we're talking about on the site two four story buildings and two five-story buildings so on the site under the traditional zoning um I'll call it the traditional zoning or or zoning I should say um you could do a 5tory building as long as it's mixed use um if you only decided to stick to like a residential only building um the limitation was three stories and so obviously you see a deviation from what our zoning is by having four and five story only residential buildings um so I think that's something that we um you know we take some issue with uh with regards to infrastructure of course Water and Sewer um is is very very very important um in detailing you know the issues with our our water supply and you know look the fact is that we do have this supplemental connection now to the MW but we're Limited in what we can basically take from Southboro in terms of gallonage uh I think it's 300,000 gallons a day um uh so you know there there's potential to bump up against that even if you don't look at the Mill project itself um and then also the town sewer system you know we've talked about the limitations associated with that both from a physical perspective but then also from uh again a paper perspective and what we're allowed to basically what they call an interbase and transfer um from you know the Basin that we withraw water from and then because essentially what we're doing is we're drawing water out of our Basin and we're transporting it through our sewer system to Boston Harbor um and so again there's limitations that we're allowed to do through D um in that and then also with what we're allowed to basically transport through framing Hamp system through the intermunicipal agreement um and so again the addition of 226 units is is not going to help that at all um so one of the things that we found uh I'll just say frustrating um to a certain extent is that um you know in order to really kind of identify what Wetlands resources that you're potentially impacting you have to have an up-to-date delineation or you should have an up-to-date delineation uh what they have Pro what um the developer has provided is really kind of an estimation of what the Wetland resources are um that is significantly out of date by a couple of decades um now the person who did that work Joyce Hastings um I don't know if she's retired yet but Joyce has done a lot of work in Ashland in in Metro West uh through glm Consulting um but Joe just as you mentioned um how much the re resource area Wetland resource area had grown on Olive Street over the past you know 15 years you can imagine having a very similar um situation here and so I think a real delineation needs to be done in order for us to see what the impact is and I think that's going to impact the conceptual plan as well um uh traffic concerns um oh wow uhoh uh obviously a little bit different than what the with the in terms of the specifics than what we had with the mill site but um the fact is is that 135 in Waverly Street is really kind of the main thorough Fair corridor from east to west you know running through Ashland and so um again adding I I think there's 431 spaces you know adding 431 cars let's just say take that for what it is exactly and and then I think also the fact that it's proximity to the public safety building which which um you know obviously there needs to be you know quick egress uh from our Public Safety vehicles to do that and granted we have you know signalization and everything that's been put in place but um you know anytime you're adding that volume ex exactly right exactly um they provided no storm water plan so it's been really really hard to evaluate what the storm water impact would be uh again I'll draw a comparison to um you know what we saw with the mill proposal where we had an idea of what they were thinking of from a storm waterer perspective uh using underground systems and things like that you know we could we could point out where that could be a concern we really didn't have that much of an opportunity with this so um I think given all of that information or lack of information you can say um you know I have you know that the board uh is not supportive of this project as as it's presented and uh is asking Mass housing to to deny it as as presented you ever mention did we ever mention the fact that this proposed project is directly across from the bracket Reservoir and the potential storm water coming off of that could potentially be an issue to the bracket res I don't think I mentioned specifically bracket reservation um but I did mention the fact Joe that you know given the pitch of the site the fact that there's a lot of ledge so you're not going to have a lot of infiltration you know both during construction and after construction you want to be concerned about the runoff I'm just pitch I'm just wondering if that may have been or could be a potential issue for them you know yeah I mean I can certainly add some spec specificity to that seems like a good idea um because you know the other thing is you're talking about again the pitch of the site and I know they plan on flat fattening it to a certain extent but it's it's not going to be that way throughout the whole site you know you don't want to have a whole lot of water run off that washes onto Waverly Street or 135 that could freeze over especially you know that presents some challenges as we know that all too well from the public safety building right well and from Cirrus right I mean that's built on a huge hill and the amount of problems they had and they and they had plans for their retaining pool and things like that so yeah yeah prior to being built so we were able to see that well and then as they built it they had issues yeah so we did um so in addition to our letter you know I did like similar to the last packet include the information that we had received from other boards um and then also the information that we received from the public and putting the form up and everything online questions or comments speaking of storm water um I just have a question Mike you know in terms of the I know we talk about our our sewer um that all of our waste water goes through Framingham and that's thrown into Municipal agreement and um so so so we're at capacity in terms of or maximum what we are allowed to put through Framingham at this point yeah so there's different there's different limits Claudia so there's like an annual limit there's uh a daily limit there's a peak limit and uh with regards to the Framingham IMA um we exceed what's allowable under our Peak limit at certain periods like during certain storms and things like that okay so and and is it because um is there more capacity that that would be on us to purchase or is there not that capacity even out there there's potentially capacity that we could we could purch you know the other thing that you hear us talk about in terms of being able to expand our capacity is working hard on our inii program um and making sure that any kind of leaks that we have in the system that contribute to what is flowing in as as part of our sewage is that's just regular groundwater is cut off so that preserves uh that capacity for actual sewage to flow right so there's you know but in the meantime if you know how do we add all these units if we we can't or there isn't the capacity to to send the Wastewater through I I I think that is a a good question pretty good basic problem that is a a good question it's a pretty straightforward problem already said that the sewer moror well that that well the housing moratorium housing the sewer went the the SE was okay yeah okay although just remember you know with a 40b project like I they don't that do impact them yeah but if there's if there I I just don't understand you know if there isn't the capacity to do it then well there's I mean and that is a broader conversation Claudia that's happening across the state especially with the NBTA communities law because there are some communities that don't have sewer and and so you know talking about you know putting projects in at a density of 15 units per acre um um you know developing a septic system and having a a piece of property that can handle a septic system that would or an on-site Waste Water treatment PL right um it's very very it's one of those open-ended questions that the state didn't necessarily think about when they went through and and passed this quote unquote well-intentioned law you know and then again in their proposal these are all apartments there's no nothing that no home ownership involved in this correct it's all rental um and all and that doesn't have to be the case with a 40b correct right you you can have home ownership you can have home ownership um and obviously there's benefits uh to each each one um you know the primary benefit to the town for the rental units is that uh 40b you get to count all of the units towards your affordable housing inventory which gets you closer to that 10% which in turn allows you to turn away 40b projects that are not necessarily desirable um whereas with ownership projects you're only allowed to count the the affordable units the true affordable units okay and why that is I I still have not been able to get a straight answer and if and if the the real goal is to give people the opportunity to have you know perhaps ownership then it would seem to me that if if you're doing it for for that reason right which is supposedly the reason this is happening that 40 BS are in place they are to provide affordable housing and I would think in the longterm some kind of ability to purchase and own then you need a you need a stepping ground right you you can't people aren't going to get ever get into the market for the most part if they don't have lower I don't know that their idea is that we're going to provide affordable housing and that's going to get get more people in the market I think the idea behind a 4B yes they can do they can do purchase but the idea is just how how can we increase the affordable housing stock right and we're seeing more and more rentals rather than home ownerships right you're not seeing condos which is what you used to see in buildings like this right they would be Condominiums and part of it probably the affordability or the long-term profitability there's a lot right and yeah possible Market Market factors really I would imagine Drive these sort of decisions C like in so far as these developers and what's profitable to them and what's not out rentals yeah no I understand that what the developers are in it for what I'm saying is what is the the state in it for right yeah yeah I think you know certainly you know when 40b was um Incorporated in the late 60s you know the world that we live in Massachusetts was very very different in a number of different ways I do know with like the NBTA communities law you know what the the overarching goal is even though I think the state has done a horrible job of really kind of saying this is from an economic development perspective and the concern that you have high- wage highly skilled workers that are leaving the state to other parts of the country because of high housing costs the idea is to create enough housing to and I would assume you know by just through traditional Market forces bring housing cost down just through flooding the market with units that people will end up staying here my my a lot of years under the beyond that now a lot of years that we have history and it hasn't seemed to have done that well I agree and and quite frankly I think you know from one of the things that I've had a hard time with with the MBTA communities law is that you know those highly skilled High wage earners that are leaving the state because of housing are not leaving to find cheaper Apartments they looking to find cheaper single family homes they want get and that's just antidotal information on well and I would say I would go so far as to say that maybe single family homes aren't necessarily everyone's goal any longer that that too has changed some I would agree Fair ass but I think that ownership the ownership piece probably still is there particularly for that those those people who are leaving the state because they're highly educated and they want um you know to work and be able to buy something I I think there's they don't want to live in an apartment for right I mean I think there's a lot of complexity around this issue and you know I I think that there you know 20 years ago 25 years ago a strategy for uh folks I think in that meeting those demographics would probably be to initially rent and be able to save money to be able put a down payment on the house uh anecdotally that's kind of how my hubby and I did it um but you know Market forces as they are availability how it is some of these apartments I'm looking at these rental prices they're almost as much as or even more than you know a mortgage situation so like the question is to Michael's point you know what kind of you know what what's happening here how are we achieving these goals um and then of course there's also the issue of you know not just the high you know people who are making a lot of money aren't the only ones who are having trouble trying to find a place to live you know so there's affordable housing and there's low-income housing there's a general housing crisis you know in the Northeast in our our city and I to all of your points I don't know if current policy uh direction or recommendations are addressing any of this adequately right um so you know I mean personally I I I think you know what the state should be concentrating on is more on the wage end you know um but that that's just me I can't remember if it was the times or the globe that did an article a couple weeks ago just doing an analysis of renting versus owning because they are talking about the fact that more more people now are choosing to rent and making that choice as Oppo and choosing consciously not to own that's right and they go through the the financial factors but of course it makes sense in some cases to rent only because housing prices now are so high VIs you know what your what people's incomes are what interest rates interest rates exactly money's expensive but it used to be that you did that you rented so that you could save money because it was cheaper to rent than it was to exactly own but the other thing to remember is this is all cyclical right it is I mean I remember when we were buying our you know we we were we did the same thing we rented an apartment for a number of years then we look to buy I think our interest rates were 11 12 133% to buy our first condo wow right in the '90s that's what interest rates were for things yeah yeah depending in the 80s even higher right and then they went back down and and now they're going back so it's it's just like housing and work and interest they're all it's all cyclical our economy is cyclical getting they're taking notes Here economics economics a little e economics 101 we're sort of going a little off track but um any other questions or comments specifically to the comment letter that has been pulled together any changes or anything like that that you need to see so my question is are we planning to kind of Workshop this because I'm I'm not or or maybe we take a bit of a break and we have a chance to actually read this because I don't know if I'm comfortable voting on The Letter without having a chance to actually read the letter disagree I I think that's fair Randy because I to be honest I haven't really had a chance to really look at it or okay you just got absorb it so so either way like if we want to Workshop it together we could do well we could either Workshop it together or we could take 10 minutes and with that I mean some of it is similar to what we saw for the other letter um so either we can walk through this Michael took took us through some of it or we can take a 10-minute pause and have the opportunity to read through it which what are people feeling I mean the the other thing Yolanda is I mean I don't have a a time like like noon tomorrow that it has to be in like it has to be in tomorrow so you know if you wanted to look at it overnight and provide me comments you know tomorrow during the day I can spend time um I'd rather take 10 minutes and read it through and then we can have some consensus and that that would be helpful for everybody because you're going to need our vote on it and I'm not comfortable voting until I read it so disagree on yeah okay okay great that's okay so Mackie I don't know if you can put something up on the screen we're going to take a 10-minute pause so we can read through this document and then we'll be back at 8:30 so if you're watching e e e
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um we took no action during close session so we'll move on in our agenda uh so we can uh please stand for the flag salute okay um item four superintendence report and recognition so typically we reserve this for school sites and um maintenance and operation and other staff to recognize individuals that are doing great things at the workplace but tonight is a little bit of a Bittersweet evening for us because we have three district office administrators that are retiring and while I will tell you I'm super happy for all three of them because they have worked hard and they have earned it it's really a a bitter sweet time for the rest of us that are left behind because I can honestly say all three are truly outstanding in what they do um I'm going to honor the first one who unfortunately is not here tonight and that's David Cole uh David's board is actually the Personnel commission and they are meeting tomorrow so he will be there to meet with the board tomorrow his board um but he has done fabulous work in Chico Unified he is Mr HR he is known Statewide for his knowledge uh probably even nationally especially as it pertains to the Merit system he is also just a funny individual and a fabulous father and a fabulous husband so we want to say thank you to David Cole and John Shepard has a little Parting Gift which we will give to him at his Personnel commission meeting tomorrow and Mike I don't know if you wanted to say a few words or not I was just going to keep this short I just want to say David ni Cole has been an absolute wonderful Mentor um throughout my training this year um he is Mr HR I go to conferences with him he knows everyone he's the president of like six boards for the State of California he's just an amazing individual and I I'm lucky to have had the pleasure of you know working with him um I'm in the currently in What's called the Merit Academy doing some training and uh we're the speaker speaking and we're doing this thing uh along zoom and David Pops in on zoom and they stop the whole thing and say hey our president David Cole's here and that is our HR our guy and so I'm just super proud of of you know being part of it so thank you take's computer already he's already blushing so David's an avid Outdoorsman and so for our retirees we have a backpack we have uh you know the obligatory water bottle to make sure people stay hydrated a name tag that has U their personal information and the only thing I want to walk away from um this with David Cole is he's the epitome of trust uh we have you're you see in front of you today an agenda item that is the direct result of how much people trust David Cole they may not always agree with him they may want to question him at the end of the day they trust his recommendations as you have before you with the CCA tenative agreement and I think that's a a compliment that all of us would cherish so we appreciate you David we know you're watching right now and uh we look forward to continuing the mentorship that's already been established we can add that to his backpack and we'll tomorrow okay aome thank you so David was in the district 19 years and I saw Eileen laughing but he has some of the best onliners when you meet him he's just you think oh he is very straight uh but he's got some he he really does have a wicked sense of the humor so our next individual has been with us for 36 years and I'm just going to ask Ted Sullivan to come right on up as I'm talking about him he has been a teacher he's been a swim coach he's been an assistant principal he's been a principal at Citrus mcmanis Chapman I'm missing onek Park viw uh he has been director of Elementary education for the last several years he he is truly our district historian if you want to know something and when it happened you go to Ted uh and the thing I just love about Ted is he is so very analytical I can go with a problem and I really will walk in just like oh my gosh I can't believe this what are we going to do and he breaks it down and he has a solution um and he comes up with something that's very workable he's trusted the people that work with him think very highly of Ted Ted's also a father to two Wonder ful daughters just buy them the house okay just buy the house my daughter's been house searching down in Davis they're finding the prices are a little high and I'm just like you're retired buy him the house um so with Ted we lose a lot we lose a lot of history um but we have some wonderful people coming up that he has trained so I just want to thank you Ted for 36 years of your life it's been fabulous thank you very much and we have a gift for Ted as well there you go I love it thank you oh Jay's going to do the picture duties Jay's on picture Duty no easy task get in here Tina come on why am I holding this can hold it his backpack is for travels he's leaving right away for your tomorrow right Tim's leaving tomorrow I'm a couple days later okay make us look good thin okay thinner the better thank you and then finally uh Jay marant has been with us for 18 years in the district he has started as an assistant principal became principal became director of second dery and then for the last several years has been our assistant superintendent for Educational Services Jay is one of those guys we all know him as the humor the funny guy I I'm pretty darn sure somebody really messed up at his school in Clear Lake when they did not identify him as hdhd and give him an IEP but um what I think a lot what a lot of people don't know is Jay just hasn't incredible heart he has a huge heart for kids and in particular kids that come from difficult situations uh Jay experienced that himself growing up and the empathy that he has for kids never ceases to amaze him and I cannot count the number of times that I've have watched Jay open his pocketbook and buy shoes and clothes for kids that he knows are really struggling um offers with books for kids going on to college I we could go on and on about Jay and I won't but um I will also tell you that in addition to caring about kids in our district and Beyond he's also a wonderful father to his son Blake who is now a teacher in our district and just recently what a week and a half now a grandfather so Jay we're gonna miss you come on up [Applause] and The Crowd Goes Wild you guys sit down now take picture ja I want part of my therapy we one today portrait mode no wrinkles all the filter go get one with go get one with the board okay I want wherever you want to go yeah there you go I don't want to get Cera what we have just again a huge thank you to our three retirees and um make sure you tune tune in to our board meetings all three of you for the future turn it back to you madam president um I just wanted to add um a little bit to that um because I have the microphone um take take notes from Jay uh on using your time when you have the the microphone um it's not just Jay but um as an educator you have Ripple effects when you have students who are inspired by you and they go and do great things and then when you're a teacher with student teachers then they they go become teachers and have great students and do great things and so these folks that are retiring um and the ones who are moving up in their in their shoes all have have had such an impact on this community and worldwide because of how great that they are and I was really fortunate to um to get to work under Jay um as a teacher as a a pretty young new teacher it was my fifth year when I came to chica unified I had a hard four years before that um just teaching all the different science subjects every single year I was a new teacher and um Jay's leadership along with Erica Sheridan um really helped set set the tone for me as well and um there's just um an unbelievable number of great examples in our district of fantastic Educators and um I uh didn't get a chance to speak at Jay's retirement party um because he took the floor and didn't ask if I wanted to say anything I'm just kidding um but what I what I would have said or what I want to say is that um Jay's Jay's one of the reasons that I'm here I mean definitely the reason that I came to Cho in the first place um and that I'm grateful for um the example that you've set for not just me but for for the rest of us and um that we we all can be proud of uh where our students are are going um and the impact the positive impact that we're making on on the world so thank you all for your for your time and for being an inspiration [Applause] okay I can't believe I didn't tear up I actually teared up when you were speaking so I got it out of my system such a crier um moving on to consent calendar the fun stuff uh is there anybody who would like to pull something from consent no okay uh do we have uh a motion for consent I move the consent calendar all right second okay we have a motion by Mr tennis and a second by Miss Robinson um and we have no public comment and seeing no further discussion um this is our first vote for the night we so we will do a roll call vote starting with um Mr tennis tennis I Conan I dollby I Robinson I okay and we have one board member absent today so um oh do we have to do a roll call vote for all of them I never can remember that rule me we can okay okay sounds good good so um it is four approve zero oppose and one absent um and from here on out uh we will just consider four yes votes unanimous or four no votes unanimous okay now that that's cleared up we'll move on to uh number six for our board Workshop tonight is the discussion action on the draft 2024 25 local control accountability plan our LC cap I'm going to ask Tina Keane and Tim car to come up okay good evening board tonight Tim and I have brought the draft copies with some edits that uh you'll see here in a moment per uh but County Office of Education there are three pieces coming to you for approval tonight the first one is the budget overview for parents the second second is the annual update from last year and the third is the 2024 lcap for next year if you could uh please click on the I believe it says edits required thank you uh Tim's going to go over some of the edits that we made every year it's quite common and customary for us to be working with our lead at the but County Office of Education between the time that we brought the draft to you and now she has reviewed it yet again with some edits that um have been requested of us so so we can make sure that all of the template pieces are addressed we uh work collaboratively with them and we um we trust that what they're telling us is what we need to put in there this is a new template with a three-year cycle so there have been some new pieces that were new to not only Tim and I but new to them as well so um Tim will go over some of the edits here as Tina said um earlier each year we send off our lcap at various stages of development to the county office um This was um post uh our first presentation to you all um and this was the feedback from the county office in addition um typically we asked for additional edits um usually in August that we bring to the board in September they're very very minor typically um but I'd like to go over the edits and the differences between the document that you see uh tonight on the agenda and the document that was presented a couple weeks ago um number one in the annual update um there was some missing uh data um measuring the outcomes of some of our metrics and you can see those there any questions about those okay in the actual lcap itself as Tina stated um this is a new template a new format for the lcap and um we were learning as well as the county person who is assisting us and monitoring us um as we went um so you can see there's um we added um intended lcap actions specifically supporting our lowest performing student group groups um I'm not going to read that whole part for you but this the spirit of this is um we are required in the lcap to um address our lowest performing student groups with actions and attach metrics to those actions to evaluate our progress towards um improving the the student group's performance um that's always been embedded in the elcap process it it became much more robust this year and in this lcap cycle um you'll see a lot more metrics and a lot more um attaching those metrics to to actions so we can evaluate our actions on a year-to-year basis for their effectiveness and see whether we need to modify cut or add to um what we're doing to address address those areas so if there's any um is there any questions about the changes to the elcap I don't have I don't have a question question but isn't there a typo in the second bullet added medic uh middle school dropout rate data 44 there is yeah and this is um not copied out of the LC cap so the LC cap doesn't doesn't reflect that typo but thank you finding those are my specialty we app appreciate it a lot thank you okay with that we're um asking for approval of the um 2024 25 yep I didn't expect you to go so quickly into the asking for approval mode um you're right um in that the the new template changed things for those of us that um reviewed it I um I was impressed with how the new template tends to um identify what they're uh treating to and then why what they're suggesting they us the school board and the district are authorizing and and what it's expected to do and when um I like that it's um uh it's much easier to follow when you are trying to decide whether or not we've treated to all of the concerns that have been brought before us during the year and with the input of the meetings the students the parents um um was there another group I guess there were several parent groups that's that's what I but um it was much easier to go back as I did um after I found thank you Tina um the input from the parent meetings well and the student meetings it is in there um and I was at several of those meetings and the notes were very reflective of exactly what I heard when I was there so when I went back through I was what I was looking for was how much of the parent input student input was reflected in actions being taken in this next year and I I was disappointed initially that um I things seem to be missing and then I got reminded Kelly Staley that you can't put things in the lcap might be a good idea but can you fund it and if you're going to fund it what are you going to take away from what's there in order to do that so it has to be a balance acts of prioritizing what you've already decided you're going to fund because of all of the evaluation that you've done on how effective the 2223 lcap is being because we were still in the process of living with 22 23 no 23 24 excuse me made that mistake a couple of times too um the end result is just complimenting how um if you get down to actually digesting what staff and uh others have put together in these meetings um very comprehensive seems to um hit the nails on the head for so much of what's in there and treating to the um big push to continue to support our unduplicated student groups to bring the gaps in um their functioning up narrowing the gaps I don't understand dashboards so I'm not even going to go there thank you I'm sure there all you know quite representative of what we needed to see what I do have is um suggestions on a couple of things that I saw in the input area from parents um that I didn't see reflected in action um and I didn't see that any of what I was seeing were things that would cost money so that was my my first criteria is could you do this and have it not be you know a cost prohibitive thing the first thing was um some desire on the part of the special dead parents to um be more um handson with getting our our special ed kids as as they mature into junior high and high school more experience with taking a look at what the real world's going to look like jobs budgeting um it was mentioned in several areas but not in specific reference to specialed and I did see specialed parents indicating that that was you know something that they were interested in because as kids age out of special ed with the school district there's not a lot of support out there so if we aren't doing what we can to give those students skills um and some of them are are you know um very high academic but very low social emotional students that those needs SP uh particular attention in those areas so that's one thing that I would like to see as you begin uh writing things into next year is you know take a look at what you can do there um the other thing was the um using restorative practices on a lot of our discipline issues and yes it was mentioned but I would like to see it um highlighted and um a more robust look at how you can use those restorative justice um guidelines within service and other things and it's already that was mentioning those as part of inservice training but um I'd like to see that become a bit more of a focus um other than that I it it's just just um it's overwhelming as a board member well me speaking for myself to look at what we have put together that we are attempting to deliver to all of our students every student every day um it's significant I think we're doing a good job I think it can be tweaked with um some targeted inservice which I know is a problem because we don't have a lot of days but um keeping our ins Services targeted toward the things that are most important for our unduplicated kiddos and other than that I'm thrilled to vote Yes to approve this thank you um I don't think we have any public comment um on this item and um seeing that there are no questions for clarification um we have a motion I Believe by Mr tennis to um approve the LC cap I just heard him say so moved so unless something we have the um budget over rview for parents the annual update and the lcap itself okay three of them you've already explained all those they didn't have any corrections there was no Corrections on those from from last the annual update um it's not being projected anymore but we did have two um uh revisions from the county from the last time we we were here um discussing the lcap the budget overview for parents is a uh abbreviated uh version of the money side of lcap that's meant to be more understandable for parents so the money matches what's in the lcap itself all right U please help me formulate my uh motion please uh I'd like to approve or move that we approve the overview the budget overview for parents annual update for 2324 the annual update for 2324 and the 2024 lcap and the 2024 lcap I'll sec I'll second that okay um we have a motion in a second do we have any further discussion no just sort a appreciation for all the work that goes into it and for um another year of increased I think increased um Outreach and input Gathering From stakeholders um I think we've improved every year um how much input we're Gathering which means more data to process so thank you again for those efforts so um in closing I just wanted to thank the ed services team because really this is elcap is an expression of all the um conversations that we have over the course of a year so me and fiscal we're just really putting it into a format that um the state wants but those conversations are already happening it's ongoing it's ongoing um Al also like to thank my team and others who have helped um Jen McCall and K D in the data World um chase shali our community schools coordinator who's also an excellent writer um helped out a lot um fiscal um is excellent to work with yeah bcoe Janette Spencer at bcoe is a wonderful to work with always very helpful do they use these L caps for door stops down in Sacramento or do they like pour over them and like really care what's in them I'm curious reallying not okay the state oversees the county office so the state's looking at the county office's work yep um we were unanimous last time so all those in favor of approval please say I I I uh it's unanimous it passes thank you thank you thank you thank you again are you up again wait you on to the discussion action calendar uh under Educational Services number one is uh 711 is informational for the fall 2024 California school dashboard local indicators right so every year in um June along with the lcap um the state of California requires us to present um our responses to the state required local indicators um that will be displayed on the California state dashboard when it comes out in December and so you're familiar with the state dashboard and normally what we talk about is hard metrics uh English scores math scores suspension rate etc etc um to address the other priorities in the local control funding form formula put forth by the state um the state requires us to do a a self-reflection um inhouse uh on priorities that are that are not measured by by the harder metrics that I just mentioned and so the the local indicators um the document attached there is essentially our Reflections as an educational services team on our progress on things such as topics such as um implementation of Standards um facilities uh teacher credentialing um student access to a broad range of courses and um stakeholder or Community partner um input um the state uh doesn't look at at these results um and and rate US um we are seen as meeting the criteria for these indicators on the dashboard by completing this self-reflection form and this is an informational item um and I'm ready to take any questions regarding those local indicators I don't have a question but I I do want to comment again that somebody's doing a better job of setting these up into a more userfriendly document I'm going to uh give um and Chase chabalier are one of our resident English teachers um I used to think I was a decent writer until I started working with Kelly and John Shepard and Chase the former English teachers so um I he helped out a lot with this with editing etc etc so um and then also the format has gotten better yeah okay so with if there's no questions that's all I have for you I I do have a quick question um just the rating from Full implementation to full implementation and sustainability on the um self-reflection what what are you looking for to say it's sustainable or sustainability we're we're really looking at sustainability as we've been implemented a while um we have times for we have Incorporated those into professional development um time um essentially that's it time time following the implementation of uh a curriculum and the initial uh professional development around that um and then living with that a while and continuing to provide PD what had caught my eye was the Next Generation science standards being kind of a lower rating on average than than the the rest and then you know just the room for growth on all of them yeah we we're hesitant to give ourselves the highest rating on anything and in particular those standards that we the curriculum was adopted um after um English and math in at most levels thank you okay thank you uh this is informational uh don't think that there's any public comment on this item uh so with that we can move along to Business Services uh 2 point Sorry 6 point Sorry 7.2.1 is discussion action for the original budget for 2425 yes so this evening um I'm seeking approval from the board related to our budget for 2425 um after the public hearing last time there was no suggested changes and if you hadn't heard there was a budget deal reached at the state level this week um Sunday or Monday so we anticipate um signage of that by Governor Newsome by Friday um statutorily so no major um changes in the reach deal uh we are going to get the fully funded Cola um he is going to declare in a fiscal emergency in order to tap into the state Reserve um for education and he did agree to what's called a maintenance factor which is we're underfunding schools now but your guaranteed payment later and so those funds will come in in 2627 or 2728 is the anticipation right now based on state revenues um so at this point um no changes to the budget that's not to say that when the state legislature comes back in August that there isn't trailer Bill language that may make adjustments to the state budget um for 2425 and at that point we'll take those into account as we update um the budget for first interim any questions from the board all right seeing none and no public uh comment this is discussion action so I'll ask for a motion I move approval of the original budget I second okay we have a motion for approval of the 2425 original budget and um by Mr tennis and a second by Miss conin um any further discussion seeing none all those in favor of approval please say I I uh it passes un ly thank you uh item 7.2.2 discussion action for the 2425 education protection account EPA yes EPA education protection account um this came into effect in 2012 again it's not any new money to the district it's just to set aside essentially within our local control funding formula it's estimated to be about 27.5 million and we will per statute use that exclusively on teacher salaries um there is a provision that says it can't use on admin and we will follow that provision um and that goes to teacher um salaries and no change from the meeting two weeks ago okay thank you okay seeing no questions and no comments from the public um do we have a motion for this board I move wait a minut look at the wrong thing here never mind what item number is this uh 7.2.2 under business services oh it threw me off is that we've got another original budget underneath that so that was very confusing okay uh I move the 2425 education project protection account I'll second that motion okay we have a motion by Mr tennis and a second by Miss Robinson any further discussion all those in favor of approval please say I I it's unanimous uh item 7.2.3 under Business Services is another discussion action item for the 2425 original budget reserves disclosure yes so this item is tied to original budget but this is our reserves disclosure so once a year we have to substantiate any reserve that's greater than 3% which is for district our size the Mandate um from the state of California that 3% Reserve is 6.5 million um to be fiscally prudent and to be able to make payroll which is over 14 million um every month um we do have additional reserves that have been set aside and that form is attached to the agenda item to substantiate the additional 14.9 million and that's no changes as well um related to the meeting two weeks ago seeing none in a public hearing questions like it looks like no no further questions no comments from the public so we'll move into a motion I move passage of the 2425 original budget Reserve disclosure I'll second that motion okay we have a motion by Mr tennis and a second by Miss Robinson any further discussion board okay um all those in favor please say I I I it's approved thank you uh that was unanimous and then um under Business Services item four is discussion action for the bid approval at Chico High School roofing project right so we are looking for boat approval for the uh Chico High um roof project that went out to bid in early June the bid was awarded to Rua and Suns mechanical out of Roseville and they will be starting the 1 of July upon approval and real quick Joe can you speak to the safety concern related to the roof at Cho High JY yes so with this comes a very significant safety issue that we have and which used to be the old front of the entrance that they've changed now it's to two foyet there used to be a main entrance that are between it there which is actually a storage room now and it's got a significant leak that it's going into where electrical boxes are and where where the stuff is stored plus it uh it comes up with also basketball season and when we have basketball season and we have a rainy day and the gym leaks we have safety concern we end up having to move from the big gym to the small gym which is a newer facility and it just becomes a safety s situation that we're very uncomfortable with um due to the leaks in the in the gym itself the electrical room um we have significant problems in that area so we're we're looking to get this done for the safety of our children and then also we're looking to get this done to make it a a better facility for for everybody well I mean a leaky roof you know in a gym is no good we've got the money to do it right now and our competent staff is recommending it I think that we should uh move forward starting Monday yes or sometimes competent staff I no relativ make I'm gonna make a phone I'm GNA make a text message as soon as this if it if it does I have a question you said the Lo responsive bidder was who's getting the contract what was that lowest responsive bid that lowest was 898 248 800,000 change okay thank you yeah thank you there was like that not very much additional right context in the agenda right usually we get fancy drawings and stuff maybe next time next time promise thank you I love looking at CAD drawings uh great any other questions from the board that sounded sarcastic but it wasn't actually I do it a lot for for lots of reasons um great so seeing no further questions and no public comment uh we can move into motion um I move approval of the chico High School roofing project I'll second that motion all right we have a a motion from Mr tennis a second from miss Robin any further discussion board let's get her done uh all those in favor please say I I I I it's unanimous it passes s that text message thank you and before Joe leaves I want to give him a huge thank you we had HVAC systems all over the place flying through the air yesterday seriously today there were helicopters Yer downtown today um and that that was all Joe's work there so thank you for making that were there in helicopter like all there wasn't just me there was a lot of moving Parts a lot of people that put a lot of work in too so there were actually HVAC systems flying through the air today that wasn't two days it was 105 of them they helicopter yeah that's amazing on the top it wasn't just a figure of speech cuz that definitely could have been it could have been but it wasn't it was real it was real for sure that is like actually news said so I was going to say that's newsworthy good good glad to see it thank you thank you there was an article on uh Joe was interviewed by Action News now so actually it is newsworthy was a great article and you did a great interview fantastic yeah that's always fun next up uh discussion action for ab2756 public disclosure documents for tentative agreement yes so um the next agenda item that you'll be seeing um John Shepard will be discussing related to a tenative agreement with our classified Union CSEA part of the requirements of of that tenative agreement is that prior to approval of that tenative agreement that the disclosure both financial and non-compensation items be disclosed so the attachment um that is with this agenda item Eric do you mind bringing it up just the one that says public disclosure yeah so right now um csca from a financial perspective um has the same agreement with cuta it's a formulaic salary schedule increase right now the estimate for next year is 0% % based on the way the formula ends um so that's why in this document you can see on the screen year one um and is zero essentially so it has the cost prior to the proposal and then the following columns are all zero because right now we anticipate a 0% salary schedule increase for next year um but there are non-compensation items and I'll just list them but I think John will go into them um in Greater detail related to the TA um that CA will be receiving so there was new layoff language um related to our class staff regarding March 15th so our TA now reflects that um juneth was added as an authorized holiday as well um the top three ranks which don't necessarily mean top three people but top three ranks will be um utilized in our recruitment process and additionally there's been a lot of work um related to the work day immediately prior to the first day of school being a classifi a unified classified U professional development day so so that there's been a lot of work with that so I'll let John go into the details on that um but this is the disclosure of what will'll be coming forward in the TA and the next agenda item questions about sorry so you need to approve all of this before we before we yeah you have to approve the disclosure typically it there be Financial impact and you'd have to approve the financial impact prior to the actual ta okay but yes I'm looking for approval any further questions board all right and no public comment we'll move for a motion I move the approval of uh the ab2756 public disclosure documents for tentative agreement with the California Schools employee Association chapter number 110 I'll second that motion okay we have a motion by Mr tennis and a second by member Robinson any further discussion board hearing none uh let's do a um just a Voice vote all those in favor please say I I it's unanimous it passes thank you um moving on to Human Resources um we're under 7.3.1 discussion action for the California School Employees CA tentative agreement thank you uh board President we are extremely excited to bring this before you um every year we sit down with our bargaining units and if it's a a non-compensation year when we're trying to figure out how we can improve uh working conditions for employees and also strengthen the relationship between the union and Chico Unified often times we take existing M us that may be in one year of existence or two years of existence and we talk about those as if we either need to refine them and come back and have them um back in the shape of anou a memorandum of understanding or if we're ready to take those M us and drop them into contract language so just for the Public's understanding that's typically the process in addition to that process so most of what you have before you and I'll go through those in just a second um in addition to that some people may be wondering why we had a three-year wage agreement with cuta our teachers um certificated Union um last year and only a one- year with our classified School Employees Association and essentially the um well called the mothership um Sacramento wanted our um agreements to align and so the the Bing units bargaining units would be coming to the table at the same time um for the same revenue streams so to make that happen we had to um embed a 2-year uh compensation agreement in this ta so that's why you have a 2-year versus last year we had a three-year the cuta so just to succinctly go through the um tenative agreement and Mike Allen may join me at the podium just if there's some clarifying questions or probing questions if you have those as well so as you can see we're just going to go through through these numerically um the first section is some language that's been an existence inou form uh related to wages and essentially here we are trying to um recruit when we have situations classifications where it's difficult to uh to bring people into the interview room so that's the um language related to wages in article step in on that is really to clarify the process of when we can recruit at a higher step or um lower them down when we don't have a problem of recruiting so um it was clarifying so everybody's on the same page with that so thanks Mike the next one article four just clarifying the language related to March 15th as everyone knows uh that additional or that uh spec specification was implemented this year um that we had to notify our employees by March 15 so the strikeout language is what we've had in the past and we've added in the uh most recent changes to legislation Mike anything you want to add on that one no it was just was 45 days but it's matching the um cuta um and certificated so we're matching up with that and so March 15th is now the deadline for for layoffs so and the same 4.1.2 notice you can see there is the same type of change and under Article 5 we added the juneth language to the contract that wasn't in there before and then under 5.1 5.2a in the event of a national day of morning for the death of a current or former president we wanted to be sure we clarified exactly what will happen it's always been kind of a knee-jerk reaction in the past we've had to decide within a week of what we're going to do and and we all agree that that makes it very difficult for payroll for people planning and so we wanted clarifying language in there for that one and then 6.4.6 is what jacine was referring to we're talking about ranks Mike you want to talk about that one a little bit Yeah so basically um we identified the ranks and it gives a little more flexibility um for um us hiring um to be able to see um candidates um that are from either in internal or external um and just identifies what is rank one what is rank two and what is rank three very specifically and I think it gives um a little more flexibility in in hiring and just to add a little more to that this was one of the M that we really wanted to be patient with before we put it in contract we wanted to make sure it met the needs of the employees as well as made it manageable um for our interview panels so we waited a little bit longer before we were able to embed it in a tenative agreement if approved and then under article 9 we have training uh everyone has been clamoring for training more opportunities for training we even talked about it earlier today how we can be sure that're providing um ample opportunity for our classified staff to be trained so we developed some language here to be sure that we include classified staff in input on training topics that we clarify expectations for for training uh moving forward and we we started this last year and received a significant U appreciation uh we being ed services and classified Human Resources receiving the appreciation yeah I think it's one of the things that our classified folks have been really wanting is more training and so um kind of mirroring what the certificate it does um the day before school we'll have a training um and I'm excited because at this time we all also mirroring um what this certificate is doing is that we're bringing in Dr Greenfield I think it's very exciting and they will um hear about you know culture building culture and climate um in the workforce so I think it's I think it's right up to Alley and they get exactly what the teachers are getting so I think it's a good move and as Jaclyn already explained we are trying to mirror or we are mirroring the uh formula for compensation for classified can I answer any questions there's a lot this has been a work quite a work in progress yeah yeah it started with uh you know Jim henlin and David Cole um working together with CCA and then we got to take it over and so we're kind of standing on the shoulder Giants right now so it's it's good that we got it through that's great I have no questions does anybody else have questions I'm formulating a question but I'm I'm reading these so I'm on the um what happens during the second secondary non-student day um it looks like the language excludes um instructional Paras yard supervisors campus supervisors on secondary school campuses and all 12-month employees including office staff are excluded from the the dropping of that day so so are those classifications losing one work day per year nobody's losing a workday per year um nobody loses a workday um basically what well they're moving the work day so it was a a non work day it was a non non student day right and so we move that to for the training day in the beginning the so we change calendars to reflect that that day being moved to before school and they don't have to show up on the non-student so it's substituted with a an in service yes got it okay I'm done part of what I have to do is watch everybody else's faces and see if there there's their gears are still turning on questions but it looks like we're ready to move on so um there's also no public comment on this item and uh therefore I will ask for a motion I move item 3 point six point something sorry 7.3.1 uh the California School Employees tentative agreement I'll second that motion okay we have a motion by Mr tennis and a second by Miss Robinson any further discussion Bo just a big thank you to you both as well as your predecessors for all of the time and work and um and the folks that that negotiations take place with because it's a lot of work and for most folks it's a lot of extra extra curricular curricular work um so very grateful for everybody's time I will say cssea did a great job their the relationship with them is very good right now and it makes it fun and easy so thank you it's um it's really refreshing knowing how many kind of dysfunctional relationships exist not just in the school realm but also just in the state union realm or private um and it's always been really nice for me to kind of smile and Nod and say well chica unified has figured it out and it's pretty great so I just would love to see that continue on and on all right um I think we're ready for a vote uh so uh let's do uh just a Voice vote all those who are in favor of approval please say I I I it's unanimous thank you thank you thank you all right moving on to um 74 one um under the under board discussion action for the Chica Unified School District governance handbook so the board has in front of them the governance handbook that we updated last year uh this was sent out to everyone I did not receive any changes to it so if there are no changes we can go ahead and move forward and accept that we'll change the date and nothing else um last year um Tom Lando made a major concession to me uh on the uh mission statement um you know I was grousing that you guys had taken out the year previously uh statement oh something about uh how we were preparing them our our students to you know compete in uh you know in the world you know you guys didn't like the that sort of hostile tone of the idea that that our kids were going to go off and compete whereas I thought it was a really legitimate use you know phrasing um and so in response to that last year uh Tom Lando suggested uh some slight verbiage change in here um oh contri you guys had put in that they would merely contribute to the community you know in in the complicated World whereas I thought compete was more like what we wanted to kind of be ready for you know and uh and and Tom came up with I think a confidently succeed in a changing Global Society so I really appreciate um that and the fact that you guys all approved that change last year and so I'm just flying high on that and so excited to move the board handbook this time around you know yeah I I would add um keeping in mind that um at the end of this year there will be two open seats and new board members and it will be up to them to decide if any new changes need to be made I'm comfortable with our board handbook as it stands um so if there's no public comment on this I am happy to take a motion uh I move approval and and I I also think we should um maybe I ask that it be recorded in the minutes that we hope that the subsequent Boards of of uh trustees will will see the value in this revised you know mission statement uh Doby will second so I have a motion in a second um any further discussion all those in favor please say I I I it is approved to move on until the next round thank you uh let's see lost my place just kidding uh item two under board discussion action for the proposed 2024 25 CH Unified School District board adopted districtwide goals and mission statement so this is somewhat repetitive because the board just approved the elap which really is the goals for the district uh but each year we like to have board adopted districtwide goals and those are in front of you they do directly correlate to the lcap so I would ask approval from the board for our district board goals goals where are those enumerated I'm sorry yeah yeah yeah okay yep yep yep thank you it's not in in the back of your packet if you un think it's like third to the last if you undo the alligator clip so I have a question for you Kelly um and I kind of have asked this before or I've alluded to it but when we when we have our l cap there are elements missing because the l cap also talks about that local control funding um so it doesn't really outline the facilities updates that we have goals to make in the master plan um and maybe doesn't like speak to um campus culture or District culture or um you know it does it does in terms of like professional development collaboration in a bit a bit but um I just I I'm wondering if there is room um at some point to consider at least pulling some of those elements into to the board goals um in terms and then and that can you know be reflected upon throughout the year and in our self- evaluations and um superintendent evaluation in the future what are your what are your thoughts on that so I think our our major goal obviously is to educate students at the end of the day and when we go out and we ask for input we really do get input into we hear about facilities issues and if they are truly impacting our students and their achievement it does get reflected um Tina and Tim have been really good when they've been going through that they recognize that there are other funds that pay for things and when they did the lcap at our last meeting they delineated these are things that are paid with elcap funds but there are so many other funds that go in to do all of the things that we do districtwide say there's probably two areas that um maybe are not reflected specifically uh in these goals and you know one would be facility renovation and um the other two a little bit lesser extent really would be on the M side um but if those issues do come up and they come up over and over and they're pervasive then we end up addressing them through our lcap because it impacts student learning it's not always just the the lcff funds are there any other questions from the board for staff and no public comment okay um do we have a motion on the board goals and mission statement I move that we accept um the board goals along with the mission statement I'll second that motion okay we have a motion by Miss conin and a second by Miss Robinson uh any further discussion from the board okay hearing none uh all those in favor of approval please say I I I it's unanimous uh we can move on to the next item which is item three under board discussion action for the proposed 2425 board Workshop calendar topics liaison and board member assignments so here's where it gets a little more chaotic so each year the board is uh has the opportunity to select workshops and that's topics that they would like to learn more about and it's really specific to what the board would like to know more about um things that are happening within the within the district uh we did have some items that were submitted uh both staff brainstorm on some items that would be good to do workshops on board members have submitted things that they would like to learn more about um we have uh board Leons that work with us to make sure that whatever staff is presenting is exactly what the board members want to hear about so we try to have two board Liaisons for each Workshop topic and then they work with staff to develop that board Workshop so this really is um your time to direct staff work not that it's not always that time but uh this is your opportunity to decide what you want to hear about I don't know about everybody else um I reviewed the proposed list of topics for us to brainstorm on there's quite a bit of overlap with my own list that I've brainstormed on um and I don't really it's always it's chaotic a bit this s this session is um you know do we want to pull up just a fancy graphic organizer that's on the board already I just looked up and saw it um and uh yeah maybe just talk about what some of our um ideas would be um with the uh again the acknowledgement that there will be two open seats this election and so there will be two new board members um after uh the November meeting and so um you know if there are things that are either timely or that certain board members who won't be in their seats anymore next year would like to still participate in before the election um maybe prioritize those for the fall um is there anybody who wants to jump in is your microphone on no did you want to there go and know which three jump out to me the most okay um student school safety and student discipline including harassment and bullying um special education update in um Career Technical education update um nutrition's not on the list yeah nutrition's on my on my list a deep dive on nutrition um which was it's been kind of an ongoing discussion and I think some yeah I mean that's what I meant to say is that nutrition would be on my list but it's not here on the um suggested topics we can absolutely add it it's like you guys don't even care about nutrition at all well on my list it says Deep dive of nutrition so that's what's important is if the board so I would take off I guess in that case um one of mine since I only have till the end of the year um Can somebody explain a little more like uh the human resources practices I guess I'm not exactly sure what usually it's my understanding when that's been presented in the past it's been about process and also been um a little bit of a clarification of the Merit system because that's always difficult for people to um to navigate to understand it can truly be whatever the board wants it to be so the board lay is on would work with staff to say this is what we want to learn more about and I do just want to note there is room for five board workshops next year and in your fifth one you're counting the November 6 as an open spot I am okay um I had a question about and this might be an unpopular question um but because we do know we will have two new board members um you know come mid December the thought occurred to me about maybe adding a January Workshop to go over those nuts and bolts of the district kind of things um I just wrote down a quick list um budget overview like you know budget there's a there was a budget one on our short list too um Rules of Order uh annual board meeting overview Human Resources um making adjustments to Liaisons uh a qu a snapshot of what is mtss and um equity and inclusion um this I'm just like rattling off things that could be in a in a like a I'm open session you mentioned mtss I mean I feel like I have been mtss like every which way twice on Sunday you know and and that and that may not be needed but some of the other things could be uh staff qualifications or chart types of things and I know that you meet one-on-one with those folks too but sometimes it's nice to have it done in open in an open session so that the public also gets that information well they also so we do have new board member workshops and in fact we meet with all candidates before they even um have the election and then we meet with new board members and there's new board member training as well that um they can go through through csba or board workshops that we do here adding a January Workshop is really really difficult because you have staff that is gone um you know through December and and January so putting that together having Erica get it all agendized and ready to go for that first part of January it's just it's a tough time to do an extra Workshop yeah um my experience was you know more than three years ago now um I would say and it was during Co that's the caveat there but um uh it was a lot of figuring out for me um our our pre-election um overview was just way too much information for me to even process um and yeah it was just quite a bit of figuring out I don't know how maybe your experience was Rebecca um I do remember what you're talking and then also um meeting down in orille we did that in I think that was in January yeah I did we didn't get that so and I also remember meeting like and we talking about budget and specific things it'd probably be good to hear it even again right I was when I was kind of thinking that too it's just sometimes nice to have a ref refresher like that I understand that January would be a really hard time to do that but it's just a thought um cuz I don't know that we would necessarily want to prioritize that above some of these other topics that we're that we're thinking on but I do think your point is well taken I know for example Jacqueline holds meetings with all board members that are interest but specifically new board members to go over the budget because you look at all those numbers and your eyes just glaze over like what are you talking about uh Tina has done the same thing with mtss and I know Matt loved every minute of that disc he went back for a second time I heard um I and I think too like watch a January meeting I know you guys can tar and feather me later it's fine um but it really wouldn't be a lot of new development it's stuff that you already do maybe just do it in one space at the at at the same time instead of the individual meetings and Refreshers I don't know I it doesn't have to be decided or you guys can just totally shoot me down it just a thought I had tonight so I would say if we do it um it's going to be in we would still do the individual meetings because people just you know everybody has different questions different levels of understanding and it allows especially with things that are as complicated as budget and Merit system to get into that one-on-one those other questions hearing other people's questions is really valuable and there would have probably been times for me like if I would have heard it asked in a different way or board members at prior experiences brought up you know it could have it could have been helpful so kind of cuts both ways yeah for sure I'm going to weigh in on the one that came uh you know to my attention during graduation at fair viiew and Oakdale yeah um I was looking at the fluctuation in the number of graduates over the past couple of years and was talking with Andrew Maul regarding um impacts on why that might be happening and it it was you know we were just getting ready for graduation so there wasn't a lot of time to talk but his explanations for what's happening with um with our enrollments in those programs and why kids are in and out so often um were very interesting and I would like to definitely get some more input from you know the whole Triad of the the the three high schools um um to see what it is we can understand about why that's happening and whether or not the um the new schedule at the senior highs is going to help they're they're just um you know I didn't get enough information so that's one that I would like information on is that like is that is that like the alted programs and supporting at risk students topic yes that's the topic okay um for me uh just to tack on to so far Matt and Eileen's um topics um one that hit me kind of hard this year so maybe it's personal um was the after school programs and um the huge need we have very long wait lists across the district I think there was more than 700 students who are weight listed just for elementary school for the after school program for next year um my kid is on the wait list so no nepotism there's there's a a note for that um but I'm seriously considering not not putting Isa in school and CH unified if I can't access after school program because there's nothing else I don't have another support system and that's really it's um dang it I cried tonight um I didn't think that was going to hit me but that was something that hit me really hard um when I got that that email and so um um just the what's going on in my brain about what am I going to do with my kid in two months has been has been stressful and then so I know that there's a lot of other families feeling that right now or considering alternative you know options because we're not offering enough in our after school programs and I know that we do what we we have been doing what we can and it's it is a good it is a good program and it's in it's in high demand so anyway that was one that was kind of close to me so after school programs and I think that that could even be maybe even combined with Early Education um but maybe that's just because those are the things that I'm thinking about the most right now um and then I also thought special education program second and specifically secondary special education programs um uh was was another number one for me so those were my two number ones you know um secondary special education programs I would love or at least special ed programs talking more about inclusion looking at the the High School courses that are being offered um when inclusion is not happening or when they're you know in a I don't like the word basic class um you know what does that mean for our students and kind of delving deeper into that um obviously getting input on um from our stakeholders on what that Workshop should look like um or focus on and um so I don't I feel like that would be okay to do for after my time on the board is is done I would be okay with with the next set of board members being in involved in that discussion so that they can continue to carry that that through um with the remaining board members uh so my two number ones after school programs and Early Education secondary special education programs or special education programs in general um and then my two number twos um was alled programs and supporting atrisk students um and then something else that had come up when we were talking about facility and budgets um I know jacine was kind of looking into this but um looking at uh doing some sort of like utility and sustainability audit and looking into Energy Solution Alternative Energy Solutions um as a means for decreasing our our utility bills and improving our facilities for longevity um was a thought um maybe an opportunity politically to try try to encourage a um separation from a certain utility company that keeps jacking up the prices um and other um elected boards and commissions may be looking into that locally as well so getting ahead of that curve and being involved in that effort if it does launch sooner than later um was something that had come up deep dive on nutrition and attention to attendance some budget was something else that I had felt so I have six I can never narrow it down everything is important to me plus a extra workshop for the nuts and bolts for new board members and a refresher for current board members I'm GNA stop talking now I think for me um my priorities are ones that um jump out would be school safety and discipline um also I I see the importance just again and again it seems like we're reminded um how there's so much room to grow and um address the attendance issue particularly postco so I see that as a priority um the uh CTE is also to me of high priority there was one more I wanted to see it sounds like everybody already is on board with nutrition um so I won't beat that one uh yeah I think those were my my priorities so I have for you Rebecca three attention to attendance four CTE uh six alted program seven special education and then the number 15 on my list I didn't mention all Nutri not that I don't think it's important which I'm sorry I didn't mention alt Ed but oh I'm sorry I mean not it's important but I just I didn't point that one out in particular but um I also oh special education that was the one that was on my mind can I ask um for the members that are um because I'm not anti- CTE or anything um but I felt like we had a pretty good update this year I mean is it something that we want to hear about annually is that why it's brought up or just because it's a passion project for for many people above other things um we did just have a update right like a couple months Ag and we just had nutrition right but nutrition had a lot of there was a lot of questions coming out of nutrition um from the public who was listening in as well as board members and it seemed like there was a lot more digging we could do on that one yeah you make you rais a good point I mean um those reports were were were good you know when do we have a sp a sped um report so we haven't I mean that's what we're going to do now is schedule these as report yeah I know when's the last time we had a specialist when did we do it in the fall huh September 2 second I knew she'd no that um I'm trying to remember so that that presentation and maybe Jen can speak to this better but that presentation was I feel like was really specific about something was it was it a general overview or was it more specific about something it wasn't the one where we had like a really long lunch meeting with all of the staff there that was the year before this year the school year before last2 Oh September 22 I was thinking you were saying September 23 like we just did it okay I don't I don't know yeah yeah okay so it's been a while it correctly all compon district at that time yes yes thank you that's why I was like I don't remember what we had heard in in in September but I'm pretty sure we heard a lot further back but now that makes sense um if anybody's listening in um it was September of 2022 not September of last year so it's been a while since we had a a relatively comprehensive special education program update and not since you've moved into your position yeah we said we give it a you for you let you get your gears running eileene you just had the one is that correct that you were interested in uh well yeah because others were interested in in the other things that I was interested in and um we've just done the the CTE stuff my interest in CTE is did we have more completions this time around um you know that's a concern of mine is the number of students that aren't completing this the full CTE course is that something that can come out of a different yeah data um update yeah and um Eileen if you want to say your other priorities um on the board uh Erica I think Erica is running this program is putting stars next to the ones that we've all said so the more stars there are the higher interest there are on those topics right the um the alt Ed programs Erica special education update [Music] and attention to attendance some other topics that I don't think we necessarily need to to write up there um that I had on my list were really geared towards curriculum updates um this is first staff so I'm kind of waiting till they're listening uh so on my notes I had um Elementary curriculum more clarity on the elementary curriculum updates uh we kind of that kind of came up with when we heard about science you know what's what how much time is being spent on what and overlaps and efforts there I'm not saying that we need to add this up here cuz there's already a lot of things for us to choose through um but also um we maybe get an update maybe not a workshop but just an update on ethnic studies um on the ethnic studies roll out um I know math is coming down the line for a curriculum update um science is still in progress as we saw on the um LC cap update earlier um and then health education uh for k12 and some questions can came out at the PE um the PE presentation about just equity and implementation um the health education thing is because it goes back to um qualifications and certifications for staff and if Tomas here he would probably Echo similar making sure that we have the right staff in in places for things that are as important as health um and health education uh but yeah so just like curriculum updates we haven't we're we're kind of I feel like we're finally kind of getting back to being able to focus a lot more on curriculum and you know the normal stuff and out of the the weathering the storm post through and postco so um just something to kind of keep on the Forefront of our minds as we go forward um oh sorry I was just going to um try to get us down narrow this down a little bit so I can't tell from Erica's stars but what I show yeah we have um one for facilities master plan Alternative Energy Solutions we have one for after school programs and Early Education three for attendance so that looks like one uh two for CTE two for alted uh I think there was more for alted I have eileene and Caitlyn oh okay was there anybody else that had alted down maybe it was the switch up with between alted and special ed that I'm reflecting back on sorry okay two for alted four for special education update um two for school safety and student discipline three for nutrition uh one for the new board member workshop and then one for elementary curriculum updates which actually I do believe we can do at our regular board meetings those will be coming forward as adoptions anyway okay I think I agree I think you made a valid point about the CTE I mean it is something I'm kind of passionate about but I I think I would like to move one of my my boats there to um after school program so so it looks like um for sure we will have the attendance with three the special education update with four and nutrition with three so we have several that have two that's uh after school programs alted programs and school safety and student discipline so we need two out of those three is there one that is less appealing or one that perhaps we can um combine with another one with the attention to attendance um one of the things that was repeated over and over in our lcap were the things that were um highlighting student teacher engagement and that that was a big driver in getting kids to school and staying in school was that bonding between the teacher and the student okay so trying to narrow down um between after school programs alternative education programs in school safety and student discipline where's the board is there one there that is of less interest um is it possible to maybe bring this this back to a next meeting when we have our fifth board member here yeah what would we so the three completely starting over no no just the three that have the two votes now we could bring back um to see if there's yeah to see if if there's basically he would put his vote on another option is we could all vote which to I don't know that would shake things up a b you know um we uh we just did that draft for the safety letter draft you know we we we we talked about that issue and we actually had a briefing leading up to that so I don't I think I think we all signed it universally just take that one off and and go with alt Ed and after school programs I would add to that that we get asked this to come back um just as like a a brief survey item you know a followup from the last um survey that was put out or maybe you know kind of have a recurring update on how how things are going um because I'm going to ask for this on cell phones too um to have uh another round you know kind of a pulse check on those items um or or something along those lines a regular just board item not a full Workshop kind of thing cuz I I I have I did write that one down for myself too but also um yeah I kind of felt the same kind of with CTE we just had a pretty good robust um discussion about it okay so what I'm hearing then is that we will go with after school programs and combine that with Early Education prek TK and K and then um um alted correct alted programs and supporting at risk students question for Tim or whomever would like to answer um for the February 5th achievement data in cast info is that also going to include cast with the science do we know I don't know if Tim's still here did he run away oh that's funny but way to call him out that was good I know he just needed to step outside for a moment sorry sorry about that um yeah and then I I know that Bond facilities Workshop is that that's not necessarily something that's critical for us to do I think we will be having lots of discussions about the facility master plan in bond dollars um if we pass the bond okay gotcha so those will be built in built into our meetings Okay okay so just so I make sure I get this right we have decided on two after school programs three attention to attendance six alternative education programs seven special education eight was included with the other one and 15 nutrition good okay so now I'm going to ask that let's just start up at the top with after school programs and Early Education if we could have two board members that would like to volunteer to be the board leaon for that um yeah so probably I mean that would mean that it would fall in the fall anybody else Rebecca you were the other vote on this is this is all uh after school programs correct and Early Education yeah sure that's appropriate for me I've got a child who just finished kindergarten and did TK and um and then we all were in after school programs to some meaningful degree so sure okay Doby and timis uh thank you attention to attendance and and the impacts of attendance on the budget Eileen I figured I'd see your hand there I'll I'll do that one too okay Robinson and conet um alted programs yes here and how about we think there would be interest in Tom's part on that one yes special education I'd like that one if possible okay I'm interested too but I'm worried about time slots yeah yes all Ed programs this morning hour students please okay conen and Dolby on special education is that correct oh was that special oh my gosh why do I keep doing that I keep mixing it up I think in my head which one was that special ed yeah number seven Special Ed I was I was going back and forth in my brain about uh that alt Ed programs um I have Robinson and Lando on the alted oh that already happened wow I'm about a half a step behind y'all Special Ed I have conin yeah I'll do it conin and Dolby okay and then nutrition I would like to be on nutrition I wasn't I wasn't on it the last time tennis and Doby Fantastic Team great okay yep so um with the board's permission what I'd like to do and uh the board president can help me on this but go back and put together a schedule and just slot them into the different available times okay okay sounds good thank you it's not as chaotic as I was anticipating um great job team I'm proud of us go us so we do need to vote on that that was a action item discussion action we discussed I move approval of the tentative schedules for workshops next year and boardly is on perfect yeah I I'll second that okay any further discussion sorry I also just had a brain cloud again maybe my brain's catching up to the time time warp that I just went through um okay no further discussion no public comment uh let's uh just vote uh how about a Voice vote all those in favor please say I I I it's unanimous thank you thank you guys that was much easier than it has been in past years for jaming our next topic is uh we're on item 744 discussion action approval of revised updated new board policies so we had the first reading on these at our last meeting and they are now uh brought forward to you for approval could you put them up uh let's see yeah I think just the whole list you click on that give me a second here okay right what we could do if there's ones that there are no questions on we can go through and approve those and if there's ones that uh there's more discussion we can come back and discuss those or we can approve them all at once whatever is the will of the board all right just give me just give me a 15 20 seconds here guys just caught a little uh off guard for some reason yeah yeah I there's one I want to um pull off of the little the little group that is um discipline 5144 any others the board would like to pull for further discussion if not we can go ahead and improve all approve all of the others okay so we have no public comment and um no questions or for clarification on the other policies um and so I move approval of the board policies listed um except 5144 discipline so moved okay and so um any further discussion board for those other board policies oh okay those in favor of approval please say I I I I okay that's unanimous um we'll move to uh board policy 5144 for discipline um for further discussion member tennis I just plan to vote no on this I just don't agree with it at all oh okay are there changes that you'd like to see made that would help no I I know that I'm out of sync with the rest of the board on this this is a was was a we had a 41 vote s that related to this um a year and a half maybe two years ago basically where we decided that we were never going to take away a child's recess no matter what and uh we were never going to prescribe any kind of physical activity and um I just think that's um really irresponsible on our part are there um there a lot of Ed code around student IPL do we want to just clarify for the public any specific Ed code around those types of um discipline approaches if if there are any not to necessarily try to change Mr tennis is mine but it's I'll put it to this way if Gavin knew some himself came in here and told me that the Ed code said it should say that I I wouldn't really care I would still want to vote against this yeah um what Matt's talking about I'm sorry I'm G to have just got jacine had it in front of her because it was that law the new s SP 291 came to is said we couldn't take the recesses away and that's what we had to bring back you know because the law came through and it's also Ed code um 49056 that they reference that in and again I understand what you're saying um Matt but we just have to be able to follow what what were um abided by the law yeah I think it's fair for Mr tennis to be able to State your your stance and you know everybody has an opinion to share that is shared by many and um just to clarify for the public public that this is in here not as some kind of deliberation that was made internally but that it was it came through from Ed code so um thanks for for pointing that out so that we can just clarify that for everybody um okay so if there's no further discussion um do we have a motion I'll go ahead I'm um I'm moved to approve uh board policy update for four 5144 discipline I'll second that motion thank you um knowing how this is going to go we'll do a um roll call vote I'll start um and we'll go to my right so Doby I Robinson I tennis a Kon can I okay it passes three to one with one uh with one absent thanks everybody um up next the moment we've all been waiting for that's not true actually I think I know what the moment everybody's waiting for the uh penultimate moment we've all been waiting for is uh informational cell phone administrative regulation number 31.8 um mobile it's all it say on my paper must have got cut off thank you mobile communication devices thanks it's right there just not on my paper you guys able to pop that up or you all have it before you yes okay so inside there we go okay perfect my glasses so just want to let you know that at the last board meeting you asked us to come forth with the AR with regards to cell phone use we did just just that and we were able to Define certain things within our ARS the first one was we defined the uh mobile communication device the emergency or threat of danger um restorative practices and we discussed storage and the biggest takeaways from this that I really want to bring forth is we came what I feel in taking into account our teachers from DLC and EAC taking into account our administrative teams at the your high Elementary and high school levels to come up with something that we can enforce consistently and fairly and so before you you have a breakdown of what it looks like at the elementary school site at the junior high and high school you will notice that um Elementary is a little bit different but when you get to the junior highs and high schools in terms of the progress and the discipline that goes with it in terms of the violations it's pretty consistent and so I do want to you know reiterate that this is all something that all our secondary teams admin teams fully believe that they can support who's scrolling through that thing man there so fast well I don't know who who's scrolling oh um so something that stood out to me there was a typo that I haven't gone back to look to see if it's still there there's two different versions and the one that says ar51 3 1.8 draft that was updated added 626 is the most up to date document I'm guessing anyway I haven't looked at the typo but something that really stood out to me that um kind of had me concerned a bit um is for um secondary so Middle School and High School third and Beyond violation where it says the student may be placed on a behavior contract and required to turn in their device to the administration daily um I feel like this is a bit too ambiguous um and I would be concerned that it's not being applied uh equitably um either student by student or site by site or administrator by administrator um the word may is always uh kind of a little bit of a orange flag for me where is that Caitlyn um so under the for yeah under thir restricted from attending extracurricular activities I mean anytime that there's May is scrolling who's scrolling who's in charge of that okay uh where where is it um so the student may be placed second to last bullet on the page student may oh now may be placed on a behavior contract um no that's oh yeah and required to turn in their device to the administration daily well I think that gives a little bit of discretion to staff third violation I mean um this is going to be a relatively i' hope small uh slice of our student body and why there's a May in that is because when we talk to our administrators if if a student gets one taken away let's say in October once in December and once in April and it's spread out over the year and we're not going to sit there and we're going to not do a what we call a structur day where a student turns in their phone and their walk to class and those types of things that's what would be a behavioral contract would be but if a student get all of a sudden in October you know they got in their first week maybe on that Friday is being very disruptive to the the admin about giving up their phones let me pick up on this narrative Mr Mar I mean I've got a number of children now one of whom is exactly the first kid that you described who oh man it was once in what did you say October and another one in December and then another one in April you know generally a you know well- intending guy you know not not somebody who's going to be just like a sneak trying to violate this thing like week in and week out I've got another kid who yeah it he'd be like in there you know three times and over the course of a couple couple of weeks not a bad person just you know um any more than the rest of us anyway but just yeah I mean I think that the staff needs a lot of times we'll work with the parent on that behavior the high I know the high schools do that on those behavioral contracts and the junior highs they'll work with the parent we want you to sign off that we want your student to turn in their phone at the beginning of the school day or you keep it before they come in those are those those extreme cases where and the kids or the student is being disruptive when taking the phone with them and they're not respecting after it's done one two bang bang you know we want to put them on some type of possible structure day where they have to turn their phone in and we want the parents support when it comes to that that's a behavior contract I don't disagree with that what I what I think I'm a little concern feels like a strong word um what I'm questioning is um you know if there should be more a just slightly better defined um thresholds where you know not left to the discretion of of um a side administrator that well three weeks has gone by it's fine you know it's it's kind of just a first violation now because that's where we start to get that inconsistency um and you know if there's a fourth violation within the same term like they will be placed on a behavior contract and that phone should be taken away from them there you know I'd like to see a little bit more firmer language um that would be applied I I agree with that that makes sense fourth out a fourth one where it's like hey if you're in here four times on this you're you're in trouble yeah you know and then I mean and then truth truthfully and this is I'm sure what admin has is already brainstorming on is you know if there's a if there ends up being somehow a fifth violation because they brought a second phone from school or or something um then the length of time before they can start to earn their their right I'm talking about high schoolers at this point their right to have their phone with them instead of having to turn in at the office at the beginning of the day um you know becomes longer and longer maybe the first time that they have to go on the behavior contract it's for the rest of the term or the next time it's it's for the next six weeks um and then or the next time it's like no till the end of the school year or if it's if it's the last week of school no actually next year when you come back you're starting on restriction um that's those are the kind of like those thresholds to just show that we really mean business about this because um it's going to be a hard adjustment and I've always I've my bottom line has been hard and fast um and and uh consistent um with this because if we ease into it or if there's a little bit too much gray area going into it it's going to be much harder to implement it um over the long term and it will fall apart would you want to do you know drop the hammer after at the third some school districts are no I'm asking you if you think that that we here at Chico Unified should to drop the hammer on number three if it would yeah I mean yeah yes it could it could semester maybe you're really putting me a hot for the whole school year you think I think that for the whole school year is a little bit unreasonable um especially if it was in the beginning of the year you know um but but I think that there obviously there could be a little bit of room for discretion um so we're not no a little bit but there's hear what he has to say response this wasn't ready for that I feel like here's my example and let's say we have had two students that got into a verbal argument and there was pushing this is away from the cell phone now why we have may when it comes to how many days a kid could be possibly suspended or put on structur day if they got into a mutual push maybe that's one to two day you know if kids are throwing one um they get into a mutual combat and they're throwing back and forth maybe that's a two to three day suspension if one kid turns around and assaults um a student those are all 48900 um A1 or a2s where we have the discretion of our administrators on how we do that if we lock them in say NOP one punch that's three days one punch five days that's very difficult to do I'm just saying that's why the May word is in there you have to look at each individual thing and when it happens on when we're doing that there's different levels of that of disrespect or or situations when it comes to if I'm yeah but that's to add to that that's why um our admin teams really stressed upon the behavioral contract because within the behavioral contract depending upon that student you can say hey it's going to be for this amount of time it can be for this amount of time it's I mean all these restrictions can be set in stone or set in place for that student and a way for them to earn their rights back if that's what we were to do but therefore the behavioral contract and the leeway for each admin and and the student I think I just am worried about too much subjectivity and discretion could lead to inequitable implementation ation um and too too narrow obviously doesn't allow for Equitable implementation as well so um you know there does need to be a level of discretion that's why we have side administrators um and I think especially knowing that this is new um Pedro and and John and Jay before him are really good about having meetings with your assistant principles and principles and talking about how are you implementing this what are you doing to ensure some consistency across the board and if there isn't consistency we will hear about it and need to address it at that point but Absolut I I mean I definitely see all the points made about um you know maybe being more consistent and verbage and like consequences I just really think where this is going to be most effective is how well that first violation is handled I mean to me like in hearing um I I believe it was you know Mr K's Approach at Bidwell I mean kids are going to learn real quick um you know if if on first violation how that's handled so I mean I just think the consistency at that level has to be so important and hopefully we aren't dealing with third and fourth violations you uh definitely brought up a great point and to add to that it's the education of our students done in PBIS done prior to the start of school with m messaging to our parents of what exactly uh our BP with regards to cell phone use is actually going to be required of uh uh implementing for our students and so that whole education piece I think it's going to be very key and actually what it's going to look like when our students show up the first day because we're going to know is how it's handled the most and on that too is it's it's really going to be depend dependent on our Educators in the classroom absolutely across if it's not being implemented consistently and some teachers let it slide the first couple of times instead of saying no first violation is first violation for every single student it needs to be addressed they they teachers need to know and Educators and the staff staff in the classrooms need to know that this is a burden upfront it's an investment of our of my effort to have to walk this cell phone to the office you know and instead of just giving it to them at the end of the period like that can't happen anymore like we have to know that it's an investment of our effort up front so that it's definitely a team effort yes yeah and and I know that I'm like that's okay that's a great s to the that's a great Point Kaitlyn because we're at the admin Advance that's what we meet with our admin teams that before the school year starts one of the things that's on our agenda is to go over this policy how are they going to discuss this with their teachers on their first staff meeting you know that first staff meeting when they come back before school starts about this is the policy this is what is being implemented this is what's in our ARs and we have and our students are asking for everybody to be consistent on this from class to class if you can see it in our notes from the students please have everybody consistent and that's what we're going to be asking our admin to go over this again with our staff I can and the new teacher orientation that our Junior High team uh met last Friday with regards to this um on that note just evidence is always nice um I would I would love and I don't know if I'm speaking for the board here and they could tell me no cuz that's fair um to to have an um an update you know in at the November meeting that um is another survey that is similar or the same as the survey that just went out that you know that asks similar questions about how implementation is going and you know using educ Climer um data as well um that way we can see if there are some trends of inconsistent implementation um sight by site level by level kind of kind of thing I think that that would be really valuable and I think we need to do it early so you know do it in November and then evaluate how it's going from there um just a thought yeah um thank you my thoughts and and I'm remembering back to what people said about why Mr McKay was having success and others weren't necessarily and I think um one of the things that was very clear was that Bidwell was very clear through messages from Administration and their teachers to the students on an ongoing basis they didn't just cover it the first week of school and and then it was every week you know and it doesn't take much to put a sign up on the the board and point to it and go uh uh uh you know put your phones away that that takes what 15 seconds and um I I think that if Administration is consistent with their messages to teachers that teachers are going to really be glad to have this policy enforced but they have to start the enforcement by continuing to remind their students and I think if they do that Matt even your child May m want to continue to yeah actually doesn't have a phone so I don't know where he get it but and there you have the collaboration with parents being so important too so good job Matt um I have another layer um of thought to the whole policy um and subsequent AR um that has been kind of Weighing on me the last few days um which is that not all cell phone uses created equal um cell phones are used for valid Reasons by our students um to communicate about professional things you know job schedule changes extracurricular scheduling pickups you know with their parents um emergencies if needed when that's and and it's up to the high school at the high school level their discretion when they need to use their phone however I am still very concerned about the social media use an appropriate picture taking and and um um um videot taking and I wonder if it would be worth considering adding a layer to the policy and AR that especially at the secondary level you know where they can have their phones um uh out during in between Class time lunchtime yeah High School only um but it would but it would apply still they're just you know if students are are sneaking their phones out middle school students are sneaking their phones out during lunchtime um that that social media is still off limits during school time and I know that the enforcement of that is difficult but so is vaping while at school that has been a difficult topic I know that's a that's a sore subject but we hear we hear the rumors all the time that kids are still finding a way to do it so and it's still a policy so it's it sends the message that this is not good for you to do this is inappropriate time while you are in an educational facility um to be to be engaging in social media activities um just to try to mitigate a little bit of the in school bullying that happens um or the in school distractions um in the bathroom doing a Tik Tok or whatever it is that they do these days kids these days um and then also um that uh unauthorized picture taking and and video taking is not allowed that's already not allowed right is it yeah yeah there're suspendable offenses even during lunchtime oh yeah if a student if a student came in and said that they're videoing and they videoed this fight or they videoed something to this facted yeah that's a suspendable offense okay okay got it social media is not though but they shouldn't be using it at all at school in my opinion so some some thoughts I don't know what what y'all want to do with those and I do just want to add in here this is our first time through it right we just have the board policy this is our you know first AR um where well we've actually had the policy but this is where we are really putting the emphasis on this this is what the consequences will be things will come up and we will have to change it you know there's no doubt in my mind that we're going to find out something holy cow we didn't even think about that so we'll be you know making changes and that's the beauty of a working document like an administrative regulation when there's holes we fix it yeah I think that um maybe we bring it back in the future especially with data um if if necessary if I still feel strongly enough about it um to add a a statement in the board policy um that that says that um students students uh mobile devices at school should only be used for obviously for the legal reasons um uh or during allowable times for school or professional related activ School professional or extracurricular related activities um and that students are encouraged to use School phones or school email for communications that that otherwise so like they have email that they could be talk you know conversing with with families with outside folks through that's School sanctioned they have their Chromebook they don't need their phone to communicate all the time so um there are other there are other methods and I will tell you at least in my experience four years ago that it was very difficult to teach a seventh grader how to write an email and that is a skill that they need to learn I don't know what it looks like at the high school level but you know um anyway I think I'm getting a little in the weeds but just my my feelings on it apparent obviously I have lots of feelings about it I think it's really close I just I wish it was a little bit more Okay C yeah I agree I just think this is going to be a huge change in general and so maybe um starting off with things that we can e easily somewhat easily enforce seems like our you know it'd be nice to be successful at that and then consider tightening the reins maybe so you agree with her and so what you guys basically are kind of advocating for some kind of like three strikes in your out sort of approach she was talking specifically about social media just recently is that you are you talking about no I don't ask me questions like that um clearer guidelines and consequences basically yeah and and I think outlining better with our policy what is appropriate use of cell phones at school versus what's not um and then the consequences that go go with those yeah that sounds like a lot of uh getting into the weeds maybe with with with with students like you're like talking to them about social media uh I think I was trying to frame it more as what is appropriate use of of mobile devices which isn't social media communicating with with would you you get in more trouble for doing that than just sort of communicating with your mom or oh yeahuh but that again like the so going back to how would that be enforced it probably couldn't be enforced 100% of the time just like some of the other rules that we do try to enforce as best as we can to the best of our ability right um but if a student is is if there's evidence that a student has done a social media post at school or during school hours then then that would be grounds for consequences if I had my way it sounds like a lot of work for staff that would be uh it would be like a passive turn it's not like yeah we're now we're getting into the weeds of the conversation implementation so part of the Elegance of the cell phone band is that you know it's straightforward and and very visible and easy and yeah and it's a clear bright line you know don't be on your cell phone if we start to like try to like parse whether a child was on social media versus if they were just you know setting you know making arrangements to go with a friend downtown or something like that Matt I am on the same page as you about the cell phone band if we could do it I would vote for it today but but I don't think that we have the full support of the board and it is impossible to implement according to staff and so the things that weigh on me the most are inappropriate use of phones during school hours where they are allowed to have them um which especially to me is social media I might have missed something so this AR that you proposed you don't think you can enforce it no I think we I think we can force this AR I don't think I think it would be more difficult let just say three kids are eating lunch at a lunch table and they take a picture of himself and post it on Instagram or or something like that and now we're disciplining them for taking friendly picture of sitting at lunchtime that's going to I think it's going be going to be very difficult for us to enforce following everybody's social media if they're posting something now if we if we get evidence where kids are posting something that is becoming inappropriate or harmful for another we do that's a whole different type conversation and how we discipline them that's actually not even in this is that is part of bullying and a different AR and board policy but I'm just saying what it be very difficult to monitor every students if they're just walking downtown at lunchtime and they take a picture of they're going into one of our um restaurants or something and I'm just talking about on campus or like in campus facilities um even again in the cafeteria they take a picture of their food this is what I'm eating you know I don't know why they do that but sometimes they do and sometimes I do um when I'm at restaurants for whatever reason but I just think it'd be very difficult I'm not saying that they shouldn't with the use of cell phones I'm on them quite a bit myself yeah but kids don't even text one another anymore they only communicate on snap I guess according to my kids I'm not even going to guess because I have no idea what they're communicating on so you don't think we have the support of the board on this why not because I don't think that the rest of the board would vote for a full ban I think that what we have is supported by the board because that's what we voted for last time right I think that's what we're talking about yeah no I'm I was talking about like we how we were talking before about like an allout no cell phones on high school campuses I'm talking this yeah I was and I was saying that I would support what we had originally sought out to do which was the full ban and we ended up with this and I was looking at some ways to elevate a little bit just to alleviate some of those distractions that come up when kids want to constantly check their pH because they just posted social media 20 minutes ago and they want to know how many likes they have so far yeah but I mean right I mean so in grade schools and Junior highs they're not going to be doing that at all during school hours first belt to last belt right hopefully High School uh it was the will of the board to allow high schoolers to you know be on their phones during passing periods which I think is quite ridiculous and also lunch break which is more reasonable um one reason for not having cracking down on passing periods is maybe enforce enforcing you know people roaming the hallways uh you know it just maybe seemed like a hassle A Bridge Too Far if you will uh but other than that it's fairly thorough yeah you know uh cell phone ban so I don't think my terminology was inaccurate there per se um this gives a lot of scrutiny to I guess administrators but I think we've kind of made our point that we want to take it really seriously haven't we and there's now an AR like regulating it districtwide so I think this takes us in the right direction you know getting into the weeds of whether the kids are on social media because it's evil you know or or just kind of communicating with their mom is kind of like how are we gonna do that you know for one thing it's like the person's kind of private property and and you know could be like confidential privileged information and are you allowed to just grab somebody's phone and start reading it to find out if they're so posting on social media you know so I think this looks good and um I think we should carry on I think it'll be interesting to see how La unified's policy plays out I think that they're starting to implement that in January which is more robust than ours yeah and if anybody here if any of the other um the people people on the opposing side from Caitlyn and I on this issue decide they want to be take a tougher role on it then let us all know and we'll we'll um join Governor Gavin Nome and La unified in having a more uh thorough cell phone B and and to be clear La unified hasn't surveyed parents students staff they don't have a defined they don't have a defined way of what they're going to do yet so it will be really interesting um to see what they end up with yeah negotiations all of that they did they had a resolution of what they want and then they've given the district and um until January for implementation so I said my piece these are the things that I've been weighing on me about cell phone usage for our students um I just know it's worse now than it than it ever has been so in the last few years I hope that you know the the the our our folks on um our team you know are getting the message loud and clear that we don't want cell phones in the classroom you know I don't want some teachers to be cool about it right where they're like the cool teacher who like looks the other way and neither do the students I can tell you in those meetings they want it consistent and that's what we have Chromebooks for okay thank you thanks Pedro um this is informational only so if there's no public comment about this cell phone own AR um for public record um and no further comments from the board I think we can move on to our next item nobody stopping me um there are no member uh requests to agendize an item and so I will ask if there's a motion to adjourn so moved I'll continue my tradition of being the the record holder uh motion maker for this meeting and before we take that action just a reminder uh that we will be attempting to a board meeting on June 29th to uh I'm sorry July 29th I wrote June uh July 29th to discuss superintendent contract okay thank you um we almost made it through the night being uh not Anonymous unanimous uh the the meeting is adjourned thank you Kelly what to discuss what contract superintendent contct superintendent contract
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half million from where we ended prior year so uh you you add those together and we'll see a fy2 proposed budget increase of 1.9 million in the M budget um one of the the main uh points um on the M budget that's on the cover page is our average teacher salary um I talked about this at the June 5th board meeting um to summarize um you may be wondering the board just gave increases why are we seeing a decrease in average teacher salary um couple of reasons our average teacher years of experience has decreased in terms we are hiring newer teachers coming in at a lower rate at a starting pay versus paying experienced teachers that are have 10 or 15 years of experience which will Garner a higher salary so those new teachers brings the average teacher salary down um it's not an indication of um not doing raises that's just an law of averages um in addition we had two very 10year teachers um again that have an excess of 50 years of experience moving um off our payroll to ESI um that's going to swing and average a lot right you take a that big um 10year teacher and move those off you're going to swing the average quite a bit so again the calculation does not include menal pays um again and it does include the board approved 1.5% increase from M and the 2 to 3% increase from the classroom site from base amount looking at the capital budget again uh same instance uh this is a statutory um formula on the capital budget it's derived from ADM the one difference from Capital to m is capital uses a prior year ADM calculation um don't ask me why it's in the rule book um so in May 8th we revised our capital budget to 26 million again it uses a prior year ADM calculation um we were transferring moreo dollars to Capital right so that would increase the capital budget um in in that prior year now moving to fiscal 25 um we're anticipating a capital budget re budgeting 15 million um again it uses prior your ADM funding um that includes the 4.6% increase um but you'll see a decrease in capital because we're not moving over as much from m&o to Capital um so we're not transferring as much we are transferring to 3.55 um a big difference is our estimated carry forward is now down to 4 million that was in excess of 10 million in PR prior years but as the board has seen our Capital plan and approves our Capital plan we're obligating those Capital dollars to projects um that we've identified um within our within our scope of our capital budget so um our carry forward is now at a point where we probably won't touch that or probably bring it lower than $4 million um within the capital budget typically if there's an emergency you're going to have a larger expense right if it's a building emergency you're going to have a larger expense versus um uh m per se so we'll want to keep a a contingency in there for those emergencies um and I feel like as we end the year $4 million will probably be where we try to cap it so all that in consideration our proposed capital budget will be down to 10 million or is is being reduced by 10 million um 700,000 but again a lot of the that 10 million being reduced is is money spent towards projects right um it's not a reduction from anything we're doing from a deficit wise we're obl we're using the money right and so we're going to see a reduction in in funding in the budget calculation so looking at the budget calendar again we're in the adopted budget phase um there's very little change from the proposed um and previously I mentioned there may be a potential to come back in September and Revis the budget but as I've kind of stated um we we have the final budget forms I've already included um the estimated increases that I was 99% sure would take place in the preliminary forms that were approved on June 5th so there is no um we will not be back in September 15 because the forms in the budget that you're approving that are on the agenda tonight um are are pretty much maximizing the Dish's um budget based on the state uh K12 budget that was approved by the legislature so um there was a chance that we were hoping optimistic that there could have been appropriated more money for K12 but that was not the case we're kind of um held flat um and so what is on the agenda tonight is our final budget for 25 unless again we revise later in the year of 25 based on ADM movement and what we've estimated so with that I'll be happy to answer any questions president Anderson Mr Moore um now I don't I just want to mention about the lawsuit in Maricopa County um that's forcing school districts um to have to pay back all this property taxes and I think higley's portion is about 11 million 3.4 million 3 sorry lots of districts oh money um so how is that impacting our budget I think that was mesa's amount I'm sorry about that yeah like as I st earlier it's it's not affecting our budget capacity at all um so we're using levied cash that's sitting at the county treasure to to um kind of fund that obligation that the district owes um it statutorily they cannot affect our budget they can't tap um our our our budget limit because that's our budget's formula controlled um and so every year we Levy funds um via our property taxes right um our Levy funds sit at the county treasure we do have excess funds um to satisy that judgment um and so that's that is what we're going to utilize thank you any other questions from the board it's open to the public now if there's anybody that would like to come forward and ask questions it's for each one that's okay okay then we will now move on to uh 6.2 the public hearing for the instru instuctional time model and this one will be presented by Mr birkshire good evening president Anderson members of the board members of the public if my presentation comes up um tonight this is our second uh required public uh hearing related to updating our instructional time model as a district um as I said uh last time uh ars1 15- 91.8 gives us the ability to um adopt an instructional time model that provides some flexibility uh in the method and the manner in which instructional hours are provided to students um we have some students in very unique attendance situations primarily our homebound our chronic illness students um our students that are enrolled in hlc and htap as well that a alternative method of tracking attendance uh is preferred uh gives us some flexibility with those students um for example with our homebound students those are students that receive instruction at home uh typically it's an hour a day um but if they are unable to receive that in-person instruction on that day we can't count those minutes currently um and so adopting an instructional time model will allow us to say on this particular day they're unable to attemp to access the in-person learning but they could access learning through canvas for example and count that time on canvas for that particular student we are really looking at making sure that these are for very specialized unique attendance situations that are different than a normal attendance situation where a student is absent and they're they're doing makeup work afterwards the requirements for the instructional time model uh we have to identify what the modes of instruction are um how are we going to track attendance and again the the public comment through the uh two required public hearings for us what we are proposing is that uh our typical mode of instructions is in person um through the instructional time model we are proposing that there be options for students to receive those hours necessary through remote instruction ction they may also do so through Mastery based learning uh we see that primarily benefiting our hlc students who work with Apex uh which is an online uh Competency Based uh system and then Project based learning that one we we believe our htap students will be able to primarily access and benefit them it can also be a uh variety of these different a hybrid of these different modes um a and we've provided you with some documentation that is very initial in terms of draft as to how that might be set up at the site level tracking attendance if uh currently in person students are tracked uh in k6 Daily 712 uh by period if students are engaged in the remote currently with our uh Higley Virtual Academy parents track their students hours and they document that within Synergy we would do something very similar with students on the instructional time model with the hybrid Mastery based learning again through Apex there is uh anticipated time on task basically that they're expected to do and they receive credit once they successfully pass that in of unit module kind of thing so we would identify what those minutes are and and by successfully passing that they would receive th the those minutes uh Project based learning similarly we would identify what kind of timeline that project should be expected to take for for a typical student and then upon completion of Milestones throughout that project we would then provide that time and and communicate that to uh ad in terms of assessment classroom assessment would be identified in that initial contract based on the mode of instruction between the teacher and the student student in administration uh could be virtual could be in person could be a hybrid of both um district and state assessments the requirement would be that they would attend they would take those State assessments and District Assessments in person at their home site so that's pretty much it again um open to questions president Anderson um I just have one quick question for excuse me for um the one for athletes um it states that they have to be out three consecutive days a month so if let's say one month they're not out then they don't qualify so the way we have modeled this is really anticipating students that are participating athletically in things like an Olympic development program where they are out every month a spe speci ified number of days every month uh we want to ensure that they have that continuity of learning and that they don't hit that 18 Mark and be identified as chronically absent um students that are involved in typical sports activities where there are tournaments where they may be gone one or two times uh every couple of months we believe that our current system of providing them with makeup work working with the teacher in on an individual basis should accommodate them in that way we were really really looking at those students that are Elite students uh that they're going to be out on a very consistent basis and making sure that they still have the ability to to participate in learning uh with their classmates and not have to make choices about where they're going to go and how they're going to make all of that up okay thank you you're welcome any other questions from the board okay this is now open for the public comment or question there's anybody like to come forward you turn the mic on for homebound I believe we had eight homebound students last year so this would be a very small number of students that would be impacted by this and then given the proposal um or the model with the athletes in different situations you haven't estimated how many students we could have you're looking at a range of 50 100 10 I don't um I can say that every year we have one or two students at each of the high schools that attend a program through for example Harvard or Yale where that requires them to miss the first month of school um so this could potentially be an option for them because right now we have to there there's a lot of work that we have to do on the back end uh we have not had a chance to sit down with our site administrators to really work through that process and and and make sure that we've got it put in place so initially we believe this is really going to be apply to our homebound students and our chronically ill students as we work through the process and make sure that we we're doing best for all of our students sure you mentioned hva currently does the remote already the Mastery um based in Project based do any of those currently exist or those new programs that will be developed so our students that are enrolled at hlc they currently work through a program called Apex a and it's basically a self-paced um online program so they they are engaged in um learning through uh online lessons activities and then there's usually a an end of unit assessment that they take within Apex um so that would be very similar to what we that's what we believe would be a Mastery based learning process uh frequently with our hlc students these are students in an alternative setting program that need some adjustments requ related to their attendance due to their their their unique circumstances so allowing us to use Apex and the time anticipated on apex to provide to ensure that we're being able to to say they're meeting the minutes that we expect them to meet and and and be appropriate really reimbursed by the state for those um we believe is a a a much better option than what we're currently doing um htap uh is our transitional program and shaa could probably describe it a little bit better than I can um but those students are really involved in project-based learning uh from my understanding they they they are out in the community doing some kind of work-based learning and and so we believe we can use this model again to to better identify these are the hours that they're engaged in those projects and and more accurately report to the state uh our minutes excellent thank you um you mentioned Apex currently does the kind of Mastery based would they be the the same we use Apex going forward or with this new proposal would we be revamping that I would anticipate we'd continue to use Apex we we found a lot of success with that program so I don't anticipate us looking at to to purchase something different the last question I have um we me you mentioned that it's athletes or people who are in in special academic programs could someone could a family come and appeal to for example let's say there a family business and they would like the the child to work in that family business and they want to be absent a certain number of days are there special cases that can be approved or how is that regulated that's that brings up a good point we hadn't looked at those kinds of situations so uh I do remember I used to have a family that they owned a a Vineyard in Utah and they would go and spend time there during the course of the year it's something that we can look at um in as we work to develop the the final form that our site administrators were will use this we believe this would be initiated by a family by by sites identifying families that have come to them or they've seen that students are missing a lot of schools a lot of school frequently with chronic attend illness that's how it works is we notice this child has been out and off a lot conversations with with the parents we we determine there's something going on in terms of an illness and they work with their physician and the school to create a a chronic illness plan basically that's it would be very similar in these kinds of situations we believe it's a case by case very unique gives us some flexibility where something comes up that we would negatively impact that student's ability to continue in school um sorry I thought of one last questions um you mentioned that there are in onsite in person requirements for testing and things like that um students with disabilities or chronic illnesses do they are they required to come to the sites so our goal is to bring them in to test on site um frequently especially our our homebound students that's not they're they're unable to do that and and and we don't ask them to do that uh but we do want to set it up as an expectation that if you are able to attend in person then we're we want you here in person so we can Proctor that uh appropriately and the followup question that you mentioned for using your example the a family with a farm or a Vineyard in in another state could out of state students take advantage of this program no they would have to be enrolled in our schools and in order to enroll in our schools they have to have that Affidavit of of um um where they live and so they have to be within the State of Arizona I don't believe we'd be able to do anything without a state students thank you for your time appreciate it you're welcome thank you anybody else okay we're going to reconvene an open session um I want to confirm before we move forward is M was Miss Schultz able to join us miss emmerman no okay thank you all right moving on to uh request to speak we value inut from our constituents this time on our agenda has been set aside for anyone from the audience who wishes to address the board those that wish to speak should have filled out speaker cards which are due prior to the start of our meeting members of the board may not discuss comment or take action on matters raised that are not specifically identified on the agenda therefore pursuant to ARS 38-43 1.01 I action taken as a result of public comment may be limited to directing staff to study the matter responding to any criticism or scheduling the matter for further consideration and decision at a later date also we ask that audience members practice proper public meeting decorum refraining from either negative or positive responses including clapping or verbal Outburst to ensure fairness to All Points of View those that refuse to follow these rules may be asked to leave in accordance with policy BH public participation at board meetings if considered necessary the governing board president shall set a time limit on the length of the comment period in order to ensure that each individual has an opportunity to address the board the president may also set a time limit for individual speakers thank you for your cooperation all right first to speak is Kathleen Richards good evening board and members of administration thank you for this opportunity um I wanted to ask I have been looking through all of the different um Personnel items that have come up on the last several agendas and I feel like I am seeing a trend of Exodus whether it is at an administrative level in our particularly it seems in the um k6 crew um but just in general and I have paid attention to jobs within Higley District in part because I have a wide n network of really experienced awesome teacher friends and I am always looking to pull as many awesome teachers into this District selfishly as a parent um to participate in the education of my own kids um as well as the kids within our district in general um and I worry that part of what is happening is um that our teacher base does not always feel the level of commitment and support from the very top whether that means the diets whether that means Administration um that they are finding opportunities and there isn't a strong enough pull for them to stay here and over the last 18 months there's definitely been an increase in openings here in Higley and the same way that during the um citizens committee I asked the uh team with Tyler to take a look at we weren't necessarily tracking Why students are leaving there's a lot of discussion in the Strategic plan about uh marketing and retention and as much as we need to retain our students obviously and we want to pull as many students as we possibly can in here from the charter schools because we have a lot to offer and we have amazing opportunities here within Higley School District I would encourage and ask as a community member and as a parent here that we are being um proactive in understanding why teachers are leaving teachers are leaving across the country it is not a great time to be a teacher it is hard in the classrooms but what can we do as a team here on Tim Higley to make sure that we are keeping those who are really representing the best of the best um because that will influence our ability to keep students here as well so that was just my ask um I hope everyone's having a great summer and thank you very much thank you next we have Sarah jarm Harman good evening members of the school board I'm here today to advocate for the importance of listening to parental input when it comes to decisions regarding our children's education as parents we are the primary caregivers and advocates for our children and it is crucial that our voices are heard and respected in the decisionmaking process parents have a unique perspective on their CH children's needs abilities and interest we are intimately involved in their daily lives and are keenly aware of what is best for them by listening to parental input and taking our concerns into consideration the school board can ensure that decisions are made with the best best interest of the children at heart it is essential that parents are included in this decision-making process and given opportunity to provide feedback on issues that impact their child's education we are the ones who know our children's best and can offer valuable insight and perspective that helps shape those policies and programs that will ultimately benefit all the students I urge the school board to prioritize these parental rights and actively seek out and listen to the input of the parents when making decisions that again affect the children's education by working together we can create a school district that values and respects the voice of parents and ultimately provides the best possible education for our children thank you for your time and consideration thank you next we have Mindy brocker he thank you very very much for the opportunity to speak today I will apologize in advance for not being properly prepared but it is summer and really um unlike everybody who's spoken tonight I do have three kids in this District two of them will I hope attend Higley schools from kindergarten through graduation and I just wanted to come out here on the last meeting of this Academic Year I suppose maybe the next to last and say thank you thank you to the board for all the work that you guys put in it's a lot of hours it's a lot of work we appreciate you thank you to the administration who puts together um curriculum HR payroll just keeps this whole machine moving it's a great machine we sincerely appreciate you I mostly though want to thank the site Administration and staff who pour their Blood Sweat and Tears into our children I over the course of this year alone we have had I've had children in AP classes dual enrollment classes special education classes we've had kids in band I've had kids in drama um and I'm a very lazy parent and still my kids get all these opportunities so I've talked to so many teachers teachers that have loved on my children and cared for my children taught my children and made them think so I just wanted to take this last opportunity this time this summer to say to you know to fulfill my promise of positivity and to say well we appreciate you we value you we look forward to next year and thank you and have a great summer thank you thank you uh next we have Heather Balch good evening governing board and cabinet um before I get into what I prepared I just wanted to piggyback on what uh Mr Len Heimer had said during Higley happenings is that what we're calling it um Alyssa Colbert she is the 2021 williamsfield graduate she made it to the semifinals for the Olympic trials in the 100 meter uh and so I was really proud of her and I think higgle should be as well tonight the board has the opportunity to vote on theou which is a memorandum of understanding between the Higley Education Association and our district last year there was lengthy discussion about this topic I actually went back and watched it today um and I just wanted to highlight a few things anou is a professional agreement between in our district Higley Education Association and our District administration this allows the two parties to work together collaboratively throughout the year in order to ensure our students receive the best education experience possible when teachers and staff are supported and provided with the appropriate resources our students are the ones who ultimately benefit if the nmou were not in place teachers would not have an Avenue in which to share their needs with District admin that'd be really challenging ing for Karen to receive you know several different calls on many different topics um and so we work together uh to work through meet and confer process to share those concerns with our district admin I fear that if we did not have an agreement and a process in place that those issues and concerns would just end at the site level um but we're able to work together to provide success across our district I would like you to vote Yes on this agreement tonight so that our district can continue to be a leader in supporting teachers that support our students thank you thank you next we have Scott Kent president Anderson and members of the board thank you very much this is a response to um several speakers at the last meeting um unfortunately wife cannot be here but I am reading an email um that was provided to some of the uh the board and to the uh williamsfield Administration um I'm a proud parent of four children in husd Schools starting their attendance in kindergarten they are currently at kolie in williamsfield I do my best to let teachers teach I believe the best foundation we can give youth is a strong education and a moral compass I let schools guide the first part and do my very best to guide the second last week my older kids came home sharing about Mr boy being put on leave and it had to do with a book my first comments were really three weeks before finals his poor students when I asked what book they just replied on level classes it could be different than ours coincidentally at the same time my husband pointed out a post on the neighborhood Facebook group calling for Action at the next school board meeting because of the offensive inappropriate nature of band books being required reading at williamsfield high school so explicit she said she couldn't even finish reading I was a bit surprised I have found williamsfield high school English Department to be exemplary and I am well aware of the process the teachers follow providing the list of reading materials requiring permission slips for mature content and the ability to work with them on alternative materials if requested and any given year I have had to sign a syllabus assignments and book specific permission slips so my husband and I got to work inquiring about the book titles three of them have been read by someone in our household as well as books by one of the other authors we were a little stunned when the poster provided us with a full copy of Mr parish's complaint letter first the letter outlines that the process works but at a greater issue I believe his letter is the perfect example of why the subject matter of these texts are needed into today's curriculum there is nothing woke about preparing children to think and act in a world that sadly is full of these experiences and people that have lived these situations this Guardian included an excerpt offended by graphic description of sex missing the point that it is sexual abuse and rape rape of a teenage girl by her boyfriend is relevant and real possibility for teen girls regardless their in regardless of their innocence in fact millions of people may M and female regardless of gender have faced intimate partner violence during their teens the fact he saw sex is part of the problem I have no issue raising concerns to the school and District I am not only an advocate for my kids but for the public schools I have other commitments with my children and cannot be present school board meeting to voice my support of the school and teacher please accept this letter as my heartfelt support for Mr Boy and the williamsfield English and social studies departments it was the williamsfield high school English Department teacher that encouraged my oldest son to pursue honors courses he is graduating in a couple of weeks proud he has learned and ready to take a challenge of higher education and a broader more diverse world than Gilbert Arizona he with a strong Foundation built at home in our community and at williamsfield thank you thank you okay moving on to the consent agenda I motion that uh to approve consent agenda items 8.1 to 8.29 second second it all those in favor I I motion carries for to zero all right Mr lson Heiser do you have some introductions tonight thank you president Anderson members of the board yes we have some uh people here today that you just approved to become members of our administrative team and so we're going to have their supervisors go ahead and introduce them tonight to you and so first U Mr walker uh president Anderson members of the board it's uh my pleasure tonight to introduce Mr stepan Reed as our new assistant director of student services uh he comes to this department we welcome him to this department with many years of Higley experience working with students in uh various capacities most recently as uh coordinator for special Ed as a behavior specialist uh assisting our sites and he'll be a great addition to the student services team welcome aboard Mr Moore good evening president and members of the board tonight I have the honor of introducing Mr John Stone as the new assistant director of Transportation so John is a hardworking people oriented person uh he's most recently served as a field trip coordinator uh and train Transportation has been within the district for 10 years uh I do also want to plug he was a heager leadership academy uh participant so another crudos to Mr Walker and the program that he runs um uh so congrats John and Mr Armstrong all right president Anderson members of the board we're super excited um you just approved the new assistant principal at Coronado Elementary School Mrs Alice St [Applause] in I have to correct myself because she's a recent graduate with her doctoral degree from na so a huge congratulations to you Dr stortini it's a pleasure Dr stini comes to us from a couple of other districts with 23 years of experience in education where she served as a teacher an instructional coach at the site level at the district level she served as an administrator for the summer school uh program in her other district and I will tell you that she is super excited to go ahead and start connecting with the Coronado Elementary St uh staff students and Community uh Mr Griggs and his committee that came together I'm telling you they are bragging about her so let's be prepared and Dr stini welcome to higgle Unified School District [Applause] all right I have the mic for one more we are here to recognize and honor it's a privilege to say this but Mrs Amanda day is the new principal at Centennial Elementary School Miss day has been with the district for 11 years serving as a teacher served as an instructional coach and has served as the dean of students as well as her most recent uh position at HT as the assistant principal and I will tell you she is super excited to go ahead and get involved with Centennial Elementary that school community and continue to make the great strides that they are so welcome and we're very proud and honored to have you serving as principal [Applause] congratulations congratulations and welcome thank you for your dedication and commitment to the students and the staff and the whole District the whole community okay we're going to go ahead and move on to 9.1 under information items for the school calendars presentation for 2025 to 2026 2026 to 2027 2027 to 2028 school years president Anderson members of the board I had the opportunity to facilitate the calendar task team this year and this is an opportunity I've not had in the past so I was really excited to be able to be a part of this and and learn some new things um and tonight I'm going to present to you kind of how we came about the decisions we did uh talk a little bit about the team um and the process that we went through so we were tasked with developing school calendars for the 25 26 26 27 and 27 28 school year um originally this sounded like an easy task no problem I never realized how much turmoil leap year could cause you so it took me about 40 minutes to figure out where an extra day came from because I could not count for quite some time so it actually opened my eyes up to a lot of different areas in the district that are affected by the school calendar and allowed me to facilitate that discussion with a wide group of people our team members came from many different departments and and all these stakeholders had brought something to the table to facilitate this discussion um because of this we were able to really dive into all of the things we needed to take into consideration when looking at the calendars from transportation to the payroll calendar to our classified staff um all the different pieces and so um it created quite the discussion in the meetings that we had and we did a really good job of respectfully disagreeing with each other and being collaborative talking about the concerns that we felt staff would have the community would have and and how we could address those concerns as the team um when doing this we came up with quite a few discussion topics those included professional development days um the hly the high school late start was a huge discussion that we had for quite some time we talked about middle school and the opportunity that they have for professional development and the need for an early release more early release opportunities for them um we talked about transportation and how our decisions were going to be affected by transport we're going to affect Transportation all kinds of things in this process one thing that the team was adamant about is while we had all of these stakeholders at the table they felt that it was really important that we get additional input from our community and staff that we felt we really wanted to hear from them and so as a team we talked about the topics we felt they would be most concerned with and we developed a survey that we sent out to the community as well as all of the staff we were pretty excited about the response rate that we got now is it great absolutely I mean not as great as we'd like considering the size of our community but in comparison to other surveys that we have sent out in the past we felt that we got a really good response rate here you can see the response that we got to the questions we identified we felt would be the most important to get the input from the first one was the middle school early release Wednesday as you can see the staff were predominant said yes we need this time for professional development consistent professional development that's planned um and targeted and continues on a consistent basis just for reference the NA means that the staff that because we couldn't differentiate if they did not teach Middle School they did not respond to that um and then for parents you can see too that we had parents from middle school were also in support of the early release Wednesdays so the next question was having the Wednesday before Thanksgiving be a non-school day I did a little bit of research at looking at our surrounding districts and we are one of the few that have school on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving historically our attendance is is not great on that day um and so as you can see what we were recommending kind of aligned with what staff were thinking as well as parents um beginning of the year soft start so when we looked at other districts um offering opportunities for professional development that were full day PD days the way that they are able to do that is by having a soft start and what that means is instead of starting on a Monday you would start midweek the week before which then gives you extra days within the calendar year for those professional development days um and again as you can see the yeses still outweigh the NOS we did have some parents that were no and they were able to put in comments um but overwhelmingly the the support was in the yes area the discontinue high school late start on Wednesdays was an area that we wanted staff input on um in our questions this week so the late start the high schools were starting at 7:40 versus 7:25 so it was a 15minute difference um we spent a lot of time as a team talking about those late start Wednesdays were they being beneficial at this point and the committee overwhelmingly felt like we would like to get discontinue those moving forward so one thing that did come out in our discussions was we truly felt that the teachers needed an addition of two professional development days and those would be added to the calendar on the Mondays we returned from fall break and winter break um and so that is one of the recommendations that you see on the calendars that we're pulling forward the other recommendation that came pretty strong from the team um was that while these calendars are just for the 25 26 26 27 and 27 28 school year they would like to see the late starts end next year and not wait another full year to do that um and so they would also ask that the the board consider doing that change to the 2425 school year so any questions president Anderson silly silly to think that the calendar would not be the calendars are it it seems like a simple task but it is not there's a lot that goes into it um I'm going to respect all the work you guys did for sure and I I will support this I am going to express my concern on the 25 26 school year of starting July 17th that when we started in when we creeped back and started starting in July which was in the late 20s of July that was one thing then things started creeping a little bit earlier in the 20s and now we're at July 17th and there's a huge difference between 2025 and 26 and then 26 and 27 because I I see we go back to at least we're in the 20s um I have a huge concern all the way around one I think I counted and it it's seven weeks and so from a staff perspective we have a lot that occurs during the summer there's a lot of Summer Camps there's and when I say summer camps I mean like you have football camp you have band camp Camp um you have stucco camps um and so those usually occur in that earlier part of of July that mid July before school starts and so we're putting a one an added burden asking our teachers to come back even earlier I respect that you asked the question about a soft start but I don't know that if it indicated we'll be starting that much earlier even um in that question cuz I think that that's a big thing yeah so uh board member reys one because as I was developing this and counting days over and over and over again I noticed that early start date and it took me a while to figure out why why is that date so much earlier than the other calendars and so I actually plotted this out six years and then I went six years in the rears to kind of see is this and it is a trend every third year you're going to get an early July and the reason is if you look Memorial Day it fluctuates up and so onee Memorial Day is the 25th and the next year it's the 31st so there's quite a big change in that and so every third year you're going to see that and the committee talked about this quite a bit and they felt that it was so important that teachers get out before Memorial Day and not have to return after Memorial Day that they felt they would be willing to compromise that early start date in July and I respect that for teachers but we have to remember families too yeah and that doesn't leave a a a huge time also and I think too speaking to several different schools and people in administration or offices we already see a a higher absenteeism at the beginning of our school years because we start so early and families have family reunions who people are back east and they're still on they're summer I mean they're summer all through August and so having our families are still taking their vacations so this is going to this particular year is going to creep in even more so and I think that we're going to see even a larger attendance concern at the beginning of that school year um so like I said I know there's a lot of work there's a lot of discussion a lot of considerations um and I I love that we're putting in additional professional development days and things like that and just for future cuz I know these are three years in advance just my two cents I would much rather see some of that time come off of the two week break versus starting earlier similar to the soft start maybe go to school Monday Tuesday Wednesday and then have Thursday Friday and then the whole next week but then you have some days you can take from um instead of having the those two solid weeks for fall in Spring um and then we can still start a little bit later in in the summer there um and not creep into into some of those breaks because next year is going to be tough it really is but I just wanted to express my concern with that thank you for the proposal of the late starts um that certainly did not go as as it was seen and intended so um I know it's a lot of hard work and I appreciate the committee and everyone who came together because it's not easy so thank you for all that I just want to express my concern for for the next year and and I'm sure plotting it out May look very different cuz even looking at Memorial Day for the end of that school year I think it I think I looked and it was like the 20 Fifth Fifth but then for the 26th and it it was the 24th it was only a day earlier so it's like wait we have a huge discrepancy on when we start when you just look at the two years there's only a day difference in Memorial Day so it must like you said plotting it out have a much bigger Trend there so and I was able to see that when I couldn't find the leap year leap year yes thank you president and Anderson um first Miss Miller I to piggy back off uh board member Reese I I appreciate all the work that you did as well as everybody else that took the time to to be at the committee because it is definit def itely something that is a gargantuan task um as far as the the summer I hear you on that especially being in a place where they had 10 week summer one thing that I can tell you is a lot of places not just in Arizona we know our neighboring districts are are doing the same a lot of places even on the East Coast are starting to do the same thing in terms of going back earlier and earlier um granted they're still in August but their summer was 10 weeks prior to um and so I I I I I noticed the same thing ultimately um my biggest concern which was the concern I put forth and so I would like to just address it again uh from the teacher perspective they have three days uh to prep their classro um and one of the first things that routinely happened when we moved back all those years ago um was a loss of prep days and so I guess my question is what are we doing uh at an admin level to sure that our sites are creating the space and respecting that time for our teachers to make sure that they can get their classroom set up and all of those types of things because three days is not a lot of time uh to get all of those things especially at the elementary level when you also have meet the meet the teacher night that you have to prep for but like I mean you have copies you've got things that you need to make and that's I just want to make sure that we're doing something to protect that time board member Wade when we were looking at the calendar we that was one of the discussion topics that we talked about quite a bit and of course you know High School teachers had a much different perspective than our elementary school teachers and what that looked like we also talked about when the meet the teacher night was and and what that looked like and one thing that we agreed to is that we will be speaking with administrators at the admin Retreat this year to talk about what those three days look like um to ensure that only the most necessary things are shared with them and that they are given ample time and to make sure to save those non-emergency non-immediate topics for either their regularly scheduled staff meetings or that first early release in July sorry one other thing um cuz talking to somebody who actually was on the committee from a teacher perspective because I know we have all of those lovely videos that we have to go through um every year you know like don't touch the blood with your fingers those types of things um is it possible um that we could because know now it's all just online right like you have like a big chunk it's a little bit different than what I still taught here but is it possible to give that like when I worked in Maryland once you had your signed contract they gave us like a week before school or even longer they would send it out I from my understanding I know we increase the length of time that they can do it but I just didn't know if that was like an option James sure uh board member Wade through Vector Solutions that's our training uh portal that we use uh one of the things we're looking looking at is one making sure that the modules on there are uh compliance necessary and they're not overwhelming uh the staff with training that's that can be shared in a different manner um but then two uh every year we open it up on July 1 it gets a little bit tricky because um people aren't expected to be working but that is the communication that's going out last year and it's going to go out again in the next uh couple hours is as of July 1 it's it's up and running and it's accessible and then we don't have a really a hard deadline immedi medely uh we we are flexible and cognizant of the time it takes to complete the courses and we can work with sites and individuals specifically to get it done that best suits their needs perfect thank you okay no other comments thank you and thank you to everyone that was on the committee and put in their time and effort and it's nice to see the that it's so far out um so people can plan well in advance okay uh we're going to be moving into uh 9.2 um policy IG GAA curriculum development first read with Dr Mr lsen Heiser I apologize if you'd like to give me an honorary doctorate I would happily accept it um that would save me a lot of time I've already spent the money but that would save me some time anyway um these next three uh information items were coming to you on the first reads remember when we look at policies we like to do a first read so that we could give your hear your input from it as we come then back next meeting for a second read when we look at three these three policies uh you'll notice that uh when we went through the changes and we looked at uh changing the policies we're going to the asba language uh because we needed to add some things to make sure that our policies were compliant with State Statute and so you'll see those changes in there so I just wanted to say that for the next three that's what they are and now we'll go through each of them individually uh as we look and so our first one is IGA curriculum development and you'll notice the blue that was added in there uh just making sure that we're compliant when we do look for this curriculum development that meetings of board authorized textbook selection committees that's what it's really specifically about is our textbook selection shall comply with open meeting law requirements and that's where you see the statute that's going to be required there the rest of the uh policy stayed the same but we wanted to make sure that we were in compliance with our policy going through that process so we can stop here we can have questions on this one I do have Mary Davis in here to help and support uh to answer questions as we go through these policies any questions or comments on the policy IG okay I think we're good okay so let's move on to the next one uh which is 9.3 then our policy igd uh the curriculum adoption you'll notice the one that we had I'm pretty sure it was from 2001 and so when we go to make changes uh you'll see the new one the new one is directly from State Statute and that's what it's following and so to make sure that we're uh compliant with it we're just adding that language again about textbook um selection committees open meeting law but then what we're going to look at with the instruction looking at the curricul curriculum adoption this is directly from State Statute so if you were to look at it you would see these listed out directly from there once again making us compliant through that process um president Anderson um so all the bullet points are from the state statute um the the letters we yeah yeah that that specifically spelled out um State Statute so I'm just wondering if um so prohibited instruction um should that include and I don't know if it references the AR statute at the bottom but as far as um explicit content and the the prohibition of explicit content uh not to my knowledge the the section and Mary if you want to add that um president Anderson and Vice President Van Hook not in that um particular policy because this one is about curriculum adoption um the next policy that we'll get into is um JJ which would include that particular um AR statute all right so now let's jump into the third one JJ textbook supplementary text and supplementary material selection adoption um as we went through this and tried to go Red Line Blue Line there was just too much to try to combine them together and so that's why you'll see the redlined policy completely removed and then we're looking to add again the asba uh direct policy um language from the policy from asba and so I'm going to have go ahead and and Mary uh jump in and talk a little bit about JJ um so the big updates with JJ is really giving us the opportunity to have a um committee come together especially when we're looking at novels and supplementary materials um so we'll have committees formed for those we'll really dig into this um in our next board meeting and have that 60-day review so I'll turn it over there's any specific questions but as um Mr laen Heiser mentioned it is tied directly to um the state statutes as well president Anderson um Miss Davis uh can you remind me the statute that refers to the um prohibition of sexually explicit material um president Anderson and uh Vice President Van Hook as I was looking through it um I did notice it's not listed in this one it is um ARS 151 12.3 um it is not listed in this policy but the way that we have built out um our guidance it is very explicit about how we would utilize materials like that okay I just I want to make sure that that's included um so that it it's very clear that um it is against the law to have sexually explicit material in our schools yes and we'll cover what that statute says um and with literary merit when we go over the guidelines um for our novel selection thank you so much so for clarity under the legal references that statute will get added is is that what I'm understanding I'm sorry president um Anderson I could not hear you oh I'm apologized under the legal references will it get added to the list of statutes absolutely we take a look at at adding that and and our goal is with this first read for you guys to have exposure to give us feedback on it when we come back in the second read and we come back at the end of July we're also looking at bringing back back our processes so that we can explain them to you more about uh our curriculum adoption and supplementary material adoptions thank you president Anderson just a quick question um so it's referencing we've always had a 60-day review period is that correct um for curriculum adoptions okay and it was my understanding we also had a book committee has that not taken place um that was in prior to my being here there was one and I don't know at what point that that did not exist so we are bringing that back to make sure that we have um Community involvement from schools and um the general community of hitle okay cuz to my knowledge we had a committee who reviewed any novels any books who they could provide input for anything and then we had a list that those for our schools and our teachers that these have been reviewed and approved that they may use them um if it was not on that list they could do a special request that requesting this book so just kind of getting the vibe is that not what's been happening um president Anderson and member Reese we will really go into this on July 23rd um but we do have that list that teachers are utilizing of approved books um or approved novels for secondary teachers and we have it all detailed out as to how teachers would select those books um and even put forward a request for how they can add novels to that list going forward President Andrew Miss Davis um will you guys discuss at the next me um meeting how that committee is put together okay thank you yes um regarding the textbook or the supplemental reading materials there was concern regarding the um permissions slip not is it permission am I saying that right is there permission slip yeah permission slip parent notification um how it was worded of the information provided um is I don't know if this would be the right policy is that something that's going to be standard um the language on it is it going to be revamped um what's given out to parents is it going to stay the same and if and would that something if it's going to be standard is that something we can make an exhibit to this policy so the goal is yes when we come back on the um the next meeting in July that we yes we have that and be able to share that with you about all of the different things not only the selection process and what that's going through to make sure that things are on the list and approved appropriately um through a committee process but then what do the communication going forward uh in terms of to parents as well okay thank you president Anderson is this policy coming back to us at the next meeting for approval yes okay cuz it seems like I mean it's hard to sit here and read a policy and then what we're hearing and seeing and things like that it seems like having that information um might help so I don't know if that's the first time we're hearing this I'm just throwing it out there I don't know that I would recommend unless there's a a time uh crunch on it that it be put for maybe a second read but not necessarily an approval if we're getting a whole lot more information that goes with these policies so just throwing it out there because it sounds like we're going to have a lot more information so yeah I I will consult with superintendent Richards on that any other questions or comments um I was just going to say um that if we could have a another um informational item to be able to fully go um through the additional information that's going to be shared with us next meeting instead of having it a second read but have it actually be another um informational item so that we have the opportunity to see everything um on one um policy thank you thank you okay let's move on to our action item for 10.1 uh I move to approve the adoption of the fiscal year 2024 2025 proposed expenditure budget are there any sorry any questions or comments anything we want to do before just a second okay all those in favor I I motion carries four to zero all right 10.2 the mill price increase for fiscal year 2025 um I move to approve the meal price increases for fiscal year 2025 president Anderson if I may members of the board I just um I specifically pushed this to action so I can just give you a little contacts but uh these meal prices increases um the meal prices are are strictly regulated by ad the Arizone Department of Education their nutrition service department um we are 60 cents below where we are required to be but um they only require us to minimally increase by 10 cents which is um we are um recommending the increase to 15 cents to try to um not catch up but really um kind of get and meet the meet between the differences between what um we are paying for food and what we are charging so um if we continue to be you well below the average we're going to potentially get to a point where we'll be subsidizing our food service program with operational dollars it won't be self- sustaining so that is why we're recommending increase slightly above what we're mandated to increase so thank you for explaining that and we had Anna second the motion all those in favor I motion carries four to zero idon point three the approval of the instructional time model I motion to approve the instructional time model second all those in favor I I I motion carries four to zero 10.4 yes um I just want to clarify um president Anderson um Mr birkshire um will there be additional changes to this model or is this pretty much set so by approving the instructional time model you you've deputized me to go to ad and they have a form on their website that we fill out and basically the information in that form is what was in the PowerPoint Slide the details of how we will Implement and and that contract and all of that that's not something that ad really want that they don't ask for that um so all we do is we submit here are the modes of instruction and here's how we're going to track attendance and we uh say that we had our two uh public hearings and I hit submit and at that point in time um we've adop we've given them that we have a new instructional model um it's very vague as to how ad then that they don't really monitor it it's on us to monitor our itm at that point in time they just need to know that we have one thank you good question all right moving on to 10.4 the 2024 2025 governing board initiatives a motion to approve the 2024 2025 governing board of initiatives second all those in favor I motion carries 4 to zero 10.5 approval of the 2024 2025 school calendar removing late starts at the high schools I motion to approve this calendar with the removal of late starts at the high schools and a second all those in favor I I motion carries 4 to zero 10.6 approval of school calendars for 25 26 26 27 27 28 school years without reading that again I motion to approve second all those in favor I I I I motion carries four to zero we are on 10.7 the approval of theou between the Higgly Unified school district and the Higley Education Association president Anderson yes I have some questions um I guess maybe just some clarifications we had on our questions and answers I think what came out would confused me more than reading so um I'm just trying to get clarification on the 30 minute uninterrupted or un non-duty time uh for lunches is that um how is that going to be handled from is it sight to site is it how are we going to handle that board member ree um through the negotiation process with uh the haa the lunchtime is um going to be handled by the site but if the employee is not given the lunchtime because there is some other some specific reason um that they could not get a lunch then they would be um granted that time to leave early after the students have left for the day okay so I guess my clarification is that it is in the case that we are unable to provide it not in the case of somebody choosing not to take it that is correct so we we should not be having people choose not to take time we're giving and say no I I'm just going to work it I'm going to just work through it I'm going to work in my classroom so then I can leave early because we do have contract time yes that is correct and this is not an option for employees to take it or not for the teachers um um it is if they are not able to take it that specific day then they are allowed to leave after the students leave okay it's not I go early I leave early that that's where I want to seek clarification because I don't want it to be interpreted as well if I just don't take a 30 minute if I choose not to if I just choose to work in my classroom and work through that that then I can leave at the the end of the instructional day versus if we're providing that time for them that it's not I choose not to take it right correct you are correct okay the site the site administrator will oversee that process but every teacher should be allowed the 30 minute lunch period if for some unforeseen circumstance they are not able to do that this is not I opt in or out this is you are given a lunch period if you do not get it because of something unforeseen then you know that would be an option for them to leave after the students have left okay thank you I just on that day president correct to clarify too this is already been in practice part of our conversation was to just formalize this and get it in writing so it's consistent across our district okay um and one example of somebody who may not be able to take a lunch as if we had a sped teacher who maybe the Paro didn't who called out that day sure that that SP needs supervision on the playground or whether it be a lunch and so that that SP teacher may not take a lunch that day um that is one example okay well now that we're seeing it in writing because I have heard concerns from site to site that we have some side agreements I guess if you will that perhaps us an administrator is saying you don't need to to do this that you can leave every day at the end of when students leave that they don't have to stay their contracted time and those are are kind of site agreements which um I think we need to be very careful of that as we've known we've experienced some concerns happening when some side Agreements are made and so um seeing this and hearing from other people about some of these side agreements which I will have a separate conversation with you um that I didn't want this in this writing now that it's out there to give permission if you will that we just do this so that's why I was clarifying that this is not an it's not a choice thing this is if we if we're unable to fulfill Our obligation then this is what happens for that day is where I was clarifying it's not I'm going to choose not to take this because I want to leave um or I'm going to choose not so anyway be with it being in writing that's why I wanted to make sure so thank you thank you for clarifying is there are there any other questions or feedback or comments president Anderson um I asked last year and I didn't get a response um as to the percentage of staff that we have that are members of haa um I think it's important um that we have that information when we are voting on such an agreement is it 15% 25% 50% if it's only 15% um why does haa get to speak for the other 85% of teachers there must be a reason why 85% of um of teachers choose not to be a part of haa um whether it's membership dues um whether it's due to their views um political views whether whatever it is um ha Should um not be able to speak on the other 85% um and before anyone claims um that I don't support teachers um which is absolutely not the case um um I think that um I don't believe that we need anou um for the haa to perform its duties that they get dues for um in order to do um AA is already responsible for advocating for and supporting its members without requiring an additional agreement their ability to fulfill these roles should not depend on anou um the proposed suggest a meet and comfort um process to address these issues collabor collabora oh geez I can't thank you um collaboratively um however um the means for collaboration um and negotiation should naturally exist within the ha's fra framework and its interactions with the school district teachers and staff are um are already paying dues for the these very um purposes and anou does not enhance the representation do I agree um with some of the demands um do I disagree with some of the demands no but I believe that the things outlined in theou should be discussed directly with these teachers to understand their needs and determine how the administration can support them in performing their duties and making their life easier um when it comes to their roles here um I also believe that a a pay for performance compensation should absolutely be a factor when determining disciplinary actions you don't incentiv incentivize someone when they violate District policy state laws or cross a line that should never be crossed and the fact that um theou uh protects that um I find to be a bit ridiculous um but anyway that's all I have President Anderson uh board member Van Hook one thing that I wish to express um just because I don't know if you're aware of it um having obviously worked in multiple states with that uh the benefit for the haa is I don't even have to be a member of the haa and yet I still can have access to those types of things so for example should I be a teacher that I feel like I have a legal matter even though I'm not a paying dues member I still have access to legal representation via the haa something else that happens frequently on sites every site has an haa rep sometimes multiple depending on the site um and often one of the things that they do uh is they create Avenues and opportunities for us the teachers who are nonmembers and teachers who are members to be able to discuss and express things that we have issues with or concerns so even though our representation percentage might not be you know at some arbitrary percentage that makes this beneficial the point is 100% of our staff actually have the opportunity to be represented with respect to your issues and how those things go you just may not be a a paying dues member um a lot of times teachers aren't in this state because we are a right to work state so our unions function a little bit differently but also with respect to salary I mean it's a significant chunk to be a member of it so I know a lot of teachers essentially utilize their site reps even though they aren't paying dues um because again we all get the benefit of whatever they advocate for or however that process is um something else that I can see objectively having worked here uh you know and been a part of the district for over a decade now uh being a teacher who worked when the AA didn't necessarily have this Cooperative relationship ship with District uh things were a lot harder um and a lot of times our concerns and our issues never really get to feel as if they've been met one of the things that I can see having this relationship is a lot of times some of the decisions that we've made which have negatively impacted teachers with respect to our teacher raise that we have done in that teachers collectively agreed to a smaller percentage uh our blackout dates calendar which I still obviously have issues with um there are a lot of things that have happened that ultimately I feel have been very beneficial for staff across the board with respect to this working relationship and we had public comment tonight discussing essentially teacher retention and a lot of that comes down to the benefits and the things that we do with that relationship so I understand your your views with respect to them as a union in general and I I understand that but I do think it is beneficial to at least list out and see the gains that this Cooper relationship has directly done for the the staff here in our district so as a former staff member and somebody who obviously has to make decisions that Impact Staff I am appreciative of the fact that we seem to have a very Cooperative relationship and even though teachers may get some of the hardship with some of the decisions it's nice to know that they are backing that decision because it makes it easier for us going forward president Anderson um board member Wade um I've spoken to um several teachers um within our district and other districts um and you know knowing that they have uh you know for instance Mesa you know mea um and I've heard often that when let's say a teacher feels like they're being retaliated against and they're not a member of it of the Union um and all of a sudden they feel like they need assistance um and they go to to rep at their site um they're told sorry we can't help you um it's too late because you're not a member and we can't provide that legal service um I've heard that often um another concern I have um is uh many teachers feel like um because of where haa members stand politically um they don't feel supported um and they see I I see it myself um you know haa members uh they're you know they endorse certain candidates over the others and it it creates this um issue with teachers that don't align with the political beliefs of H members um and it creates this negative feeling between them and they feel like well I can't go to them because they won't support how I feel and my beliefs um and so that's a big problem and if they truly supported all teachers um all students all parents um then um I I don't even remember when the last time a they um endorsed a candidate that was in support of parental rights um and I've seen it often and it's really disappointing um and if they're truly going to support all teachers then maybe they really need to um pay attention to their nonpartisanship that's all to be clear board member Van Hook that I understand where you're coming from with respect to the candidates that they may endorse one way or the other that is not pertinent necessarily to this specific agreement this agreement are for the things that are happening with respect to our district contract hours the idea that I'm legally obligated to get a lunch and to ensure ways that my legal uh contract is supposed to give me that's what this is here specific so I I I think it's fair to say that there might be things that politically you don't agree with with some of the stuff but that's not what this action item is for uh president Anderson board member um Wade uh my point to that is the fact that how it makes other teachers feel that they don't feel represented um not necessarily it's not I'm not talking about my feelings about the situation is when teachers see certain individuals and and how who they support and how they behave it makes them feel unsupported so when we have haa members negotiating things on behalf of let's say 85% that are not members but those members aren't members for a reason um and those are some of the reasons why they might not partake so um I mean I I don't want to create this as a debate but those were just some of my um statements I have a a few questions can we get that percentage the number of staff that are members is that something we can get in status I can get that from AA yes okay that' be great uh my next question is the fees man I'm starting my 10th year teaching in I I'm embarrassed to ask I don't know a lot about um the haa or or the groups in other school districts but the fees that the teachers teachers pay a fee to join correct I I would imagine they do okay it's out of each paycheck that you pay or maybe once a month I don't remember what option I selected um but you pay you you decide whether or not you join um and then you have a a crew fee so every paycheck essentially you're paying and then what does that money go to does that go [Music] into is it even a part of the districts no president Anderson AA is not an entity of the district and so what that's why the mou's in play because we Higgly unified is um wants a memor of understanding with HDA HDA is its own entity and so a lot of reason why we don't have those numbers um that that is not our that is not our entity to to pull those numbers or pull the membership numbers or to but we employ one I mean meaning we pay the we U miss one of the teachers who's the the lead gets money from the district correct yeah so I don't know um I'm just saying I mean I understand there now that they're s entity but then they also get money from us to be that do that work or whatever Sten to be the liaison for the district yes okay it's the extra time she's giving to meeting with the district to ensure that the district is sure but it's a separate entity I didn't I don't understand why it doesn't come from the fees if it's a separate entity I'm just trying to understand the the flow of money here I can um when we discussed this last year um what was brought up uh essentially is the reason that that fee was there was because this directly benefited the district and that's why we were choosing to do this because to have that working relationship and the things again like the calendar decision that comes in and that type of stuff having that relationship made it easier prior to us having that when we didn't um a lot of the concerns that individuals have and that you know District doesn't feel or or hear what the ha is about those types of things it created a better working relationship between the two and because her fees or the things that happen with the ha they have ha obligations that are outside of this they do things outside of of what is specific to the district amongst their haa this was for working with the district directly that's to Mr Tyler's Point Mr Moore president Anderson so so last year the district had paid $4,000 so approximately $4,000 for at least the last few years the district has paid to the haa president to attend events and I argued the fact that um as the G reps they're already getting dues to attend those events we shouldn't be using taxpayer money to pay them to attend events to act as a union representative when they're already getting dues um and so obviously that that continuously happens we're we're using taxpayer dollars to pay union members to attend events that they're getting dues to attend in order to support their members um and so that is also my frustration that we continue to do that um and yes I feel like obviously they're very involved the haa members are actual teachers um and um the fact that we do have this involvement with them um when I ask what percentage of our teachers are members of haa um I find it weird to be told that well ha is a different organization so we can't give you that and then be asked to vote on an agreement with haa without knowing how many of our teachers are members I think that information should be made available to us so that we can understand that relationship that we truly do have with haa um so I I understand what you're trying to where you're trying to get here um and that's my frustration president Anderson vice president can I just make one clarification on the stien that stien is to compensate a teacher and it just our practice has been it's been the hga president for additional duties additional obligations that districts asking that individual to be at so events um different uh Higley um outside of their their normal contract hours um the practice has been that that in goes to the ha president it does not have to do with haa uh responsib she's not out there advocating we've asked the practice has been that the ha president is the advocate the teacher advocate for Higgly unified and that's what that snip in comping sending her for to go to events outside of her normal contract hours so I just want to clarify for example the new teacher hire they will be at that um that is something that happens always where they talk outside her contract hours yeah um president Anderson that's right and she did attend the new teacher orientation last year and what did she do she promoted haa and then when you scan that QR code that was on that screen where did it take you to Nea um and so she's there to promote AA to promote new teachers to sign up for AA um and so again I I still that should not be the district's respons ability to pay her to come there to try to recruit more members for haa that's the ha's role and if she gets more members that sign up because of her coming to the new teacher orientation and promoting haa and they sign up well guess what it benefits the haa not the district financially um so I mean we can you know say it however we say it you know she it's not haa duties it's extra duties ultimately when she attends events she's promoting haa and she's she's trying to recruit more teachers to sign up for haa so it is haa role it's it is hga duties again I think it is important to keep in mind that there are other benefits that the district gets Beyond finances to ensure that staff is in a situation in which there are direct things that Impact Staff the policies we make the decisions that and how they're enforced at an admin level regardless if you are a member or not of the haa all staff benefit from the fact that we are contractually making sure that we are legally given the things that are part of contract the 30 minute time for example and those types of things uh as somebody who has seen it both before and after I I think it is incredibly important to keep in mind how that working relationship has led to some of our policies that again might negatively impact teachers with respect to time or the expectations that they have put on them but when they have the opportunity to do it through representation that and and get feedback because that is stuff the haa does they get feedback from both members and non-members before they go in and make these decisions and how they present to it that is a direct benefit to us here at Higley AC across the board because you have staff buy in for what is happening in these decisions that is not the political aspect that haa does I'm talking about the calendar we're talking about the salary increase those types of things that is the stuff that we directly benefit from with respect to this relationship and from a a board member perspective I am very much grateful that knowing the policies I'm putting forth are policies that are put forth with not only District in mind not only parents in mind but also staff because if our staff aren't behind it they leave and that matters especially as education is is bleeding uh teachers president Anderson um benefit to the district as far as salary recommendations um when we approved our salary increases I I was trying to be able to ensure that the salaries that we were going to give our staff was going to be sustainable um and I didn't see the recommendation that was brought to us by haa as a benefit because after approving that then we're told that if we don't get this Bond and override passed that we're going to have have to make 15% Cuts well how was that salary sustainable and at the same time be told we're going to have to make Cuts if the override does not pass if this is truly a benefit to the district then we really have to consider long-term impacts of these salaries that are being recommended by haa how is this going to impact our community when their taxes are increased in order for them to be able to help our teachers in the long run so that their salaries aren't cut those are the considerations that need to be considered when making such decisions and I mean this this lie that's going around that oh Anna does not support our our teachers and it doesn't want to give their you know our teachers a raise that is not the case I wanted to give our teachers a raise but when we are getting recommendations from haa to increase salaries across the board that's not sustainable so like I said I I do like some of the suggestions but I don't have a union in my at my work they ask for our opinions we give them on things that we would like to improve on and you know they survey employees and make make those adjust adjustments to help employees why can't we as a district be able to have that and be able to work with with our teachers and say what is it that you need how can we how can we work together to make it better without having an agreement with ha I just think that we should be able to do that our admin staff should be able to do that and be able to provide for our teachers and make their lives easier without an agreement that's all I'm saying thank you president Anderson I'm just gonna make a quick point that um just a clarification is that haa is not the one bringing forth the recommendations that's meet and confer which is both district and representatives so it's not I just want to clarify it's not like haa coming and saying here's our proposal what what gets presented to us is comes out of meet and confer and that is through um discussion with all levels of of different District admin site admin they have a variety of people on that team so those are our discussions which I just have to say I appreciate it coming that way instead of a back and forth you don't want to get into bargaining or or anything like that they kind of hash it out there and say okay I think we have an agreed proposal if you will that we can take to the board for the district and um I hear you about sustainability because that is probably all Mr Moore heard from me for ever when he got on here is how are we planning for the future how are we doing this and I'm thankful because we had a very large unexpected expense that we have to pay back and as a district because of planning and talking about planning and sustainability um and I hear you and I I don't I hope that no one's turning around and saying well we're going to give you a raise and then you're we're going to take it away if we are faced with uh an override that does not pass then multiple decisions will be needing to be made and that will impact everybody and so you need that relationship whether it's haa whether it's meet and comfort you you need that because that's where those decisions are going to have to come from and I hear you and as an employer I'm the first one to say I'll survey my my staff on what will make them you know what will help them this and that but I don't I also don't do their job and I have made decisions in changing something adding something taking something away that there is unintended consequences on because I don't do their job every day so when we're making these decisions and we have people who are there um that can help have that conversation then that helps us from minimizing those mistakes so I I I hear you and I I don't I honestly don't know that legally that they would have to provide the amount of members uh I hear your understanding saying if we're only if only 10% of our staff is are are members do they deserve a quote unquote seat at the table so as a membership I I hear what you're saying um but I don't know legally they have to provide that information as we've asked for it I don't know legally they have to provide it because it is a a separate organization it would be very nice to have an understanding of of what that population is but um I think the memo of understand standing just again it it outlines the expectations on both sides and and it keeps that agreement on keeps everybody in check if you will and I will say this till the day I'm gone is I would hope anyone member or non-member and teacher or not teacher any member of our staff that had issues concerns problems I in my heart of hearts would really hope that they can address their supervisor whether it's a site admin whether it's our maintenance whomever it may be that they would be able to go to that person that they could have that relationship and go to that person and express their concerns and that it can be reasonably worked out from an individual standpoint if we have staff who feels that they can't go and and address their administ rtion and get a personal grievance whatever it may be uh resolved then I certainly would hope that they could come to our district office and express that and get that and I also understand that we sometimes only hear one side of the story and it's sometimes it's people's perception and that perception is not always what has really transpired so they feel wronged and it it's their perception and so they feel like they cannot but I in my heart of hearts I would hope that anyone who has a grievance within our district or concern or problem or issue with that's work related could go and so um I don't need a memo of understanding for that for sure and so I I think this helps guide us and helps us kind of keep each other in check but I certain don't need that memo of understanding with anyone for any of our uh s any of our staff to be able to express concerns or needs we have policy for that we have the grievance policies you touched on I still had more questions but you touched on one of them no that's a figured it would it would move um can it's the Higley Education Association not teacher so can non-teachers join as well okay perfect thank you and um I've taught in this district and I have had whenever I was having issues I've had the an ha member on site come up and and talked to me and offered to help me out and I've never been a um a member so yes they do work with people who are not members absolutely um regarding um the president and the stien and and going and doing other things is that option open to other teachers that maybe want to take on that task and maybe be would like that opportunity to grow and learn and and and gain that that that's part of haa so whoever is the president is really to my understanding and Tyler can elaborate but that's their role yeah president Anders that's just I think our practice is just that one St so I think within ha if they want to elect a different individual to be you know take that role or sensely um you know that would be up to their membership but um as far as our practice it's been um unless they give us a different name the ha president has resumed those roles and responsibilities for coming to those events and um doing those additional duties so okay I can probably follow up with you um what the a president to understand uh better how they kind of delineate some of those tasks or maybe share some of those roles and and give different opportunities for uh teachers or individuals a part of that Association okay president Anderson and I know it's slightly off topic and we really need to get back to it but can we somehow work out it's my understanding that that stapen hasn't always been there it's several years but not always um can we figure out from a district standpoint what the expectation is to earn that stapen what are the roles and responsibilities to earn that stapen um if we're if we're going to have a stapen we should have expectations as to what we're paying for just the same as we have stens for all other things but there's an expect there's an expectation there so if we could get that figured out that would be very helpful what what the time requirement is for that amount of money what the expectation is um that would that would be helpful and then just again real quick I think due to the memo of understanding and and where we've come as a district with the haa that has been very beneficial to our district in the aspect of covid when teachers when we we decided to come back to school we were one of the first districts to come back in person and members or non-members they looked to the haa what are we doing as as a group a as a um as teachers whether they were part of it or not they looked to the haa for guidance and it was because of our relationship with the haa that we were able to work through and get our teachers back in the classrooms after covid and like I said we were one of the first districts back in the classrooms and so that that was very helpful and I know members and non-members that ATA was flooded with concerns questions what's going to happen what about this what about that it gave one Avenue and then those that they were able to filter information so if you had all these teachers who are asking questions in in all these different ways coming to The District in in different aspects we they had one Avenue they didn't have to communicate that way that's how they chose I'm some did come through the district but because of the communication with haa and all of our staff it allowed that communication it allowed them to express the concerns so it it was beneficial to the district because I know other districts could not get their teachers back in the classroom so we were very very fortunate that our not every teacher just not every person had the same viewpoint but the majority of our teachers respected the the response and the request of haa that we return to our classrooms and that benefited our district that benefited our students so I think it's because of the relationship we've built if you don't have a good relationship with that Association then people aren't going to care and so it was helpful again everyone had their own opinion there were people who didn't care and they were going to do whatever but they looked for them looked to them for guidance to help and that was helpful to us right and president Anderson um board member Reese and to that point they were also responsible for keeping the schools closed and our children masked so that wasn't helpful for all the parents that wanted their kids in schools and unmasked um they were responsible for that too so you might find it beneficial I don't find it beneficial because it impacted a lot of kids and the school closures and the masking now we're seeing the mental health aspect of how negatively these kids were impacted and now we're coming in going we're going to save you with all our social emotional learning and mental health support that we're going to provide because we damaged you for 2 years and or however long the the schools were closed so yes eventually they agreed to open um but they did a lot of damage before they did I can't speak to teachers in other places or anything I'm speaking Higley alone Higley returned to school in August before anyone else did um it was not the teachers who required students to wear masks again I'm not going to get into that we had an executive order that was to the school boards that forced us to do so and there was a lot going on so I can't speak to any other place I can't speak to any other District I can't I can tell you what Higley did and Higley was back in school in August I think we had three weeks after we would have normally started so I want to make sure we stay on on point yes okay all right we are on 10.7 and uh nobody's motion correct you motion I did we didn't motion Michelle motioned I think I read it you did motion you motion then I motioned and I'll second that okay all those in favor I I I all those oppose nay motion carries 3 to one all right 10.8 the approval of payment procedures um for ratified vouchers and salaries for fiscal year 2025 is there any discussion on this one this is the resolution the resolution as outlined in board policy dke for the execution of warrants between board I thought this was pulled yeah so this is the resolution for the warrants yeah pulled for discussion correct oh pulled for discussion oh I I consent and we I think board member asked to be pulled this action got it sorry I thought you said it was pulled I thought you me you guys pulled it off the agenda completely okay um yeah my first concern is the fact that um obviously this is a um it's an exhibit to a policy and the fact that this was on the consent agenda I have concerns with um I think it should be a separate action item on its own which is one of the reasons why I asked to have this pulled um I'm just going to read my statement um allowing warrants to be executed between meetings um diminishes oversight risking unauthorized and inappropriate expenditures without immediate board scrutiny this increases the chance of errors or fraud going unnoticed until the next meeting when it may be when it may be too late to address then current board meetings ensure transparent and public financial decisions this resolution undermines the transparency eroding public trust in the board's commitment to accountability it sets a precedent for bypassing the board in other decisions potenti ially leading to financial instability future boards or other or Administration could misuse this resolution to approve controversial or non-essential expenditures without thorough review given the district's history of financial fraud we should be especially cautious and not allow this instead we should enhance communication and documentation so that the board can quickly convene even virtually for Urgent approvals maintaining full oversight voting no on this resolution preserves rigorous Financial oversight transparency and accountability upholding the board's integrity and public trust any adjustments to Warrant processing should be carefully considered to avoid unintended consequences and ensure we have robust governance thank Mr Moore can you elaborate on how how this works and what it ends up that there's president Anderson members of the board so this uh resolution is a annual renewal that we bring forth to the board uh I believe we have 16 board meetings uh next fiscal year um we process warrants or checks uh to our vendors weekly um by not approving this this would greatly inhibit our ability to satisfy obligations to vendors who have um uh provided Services supplies Construction Etc um you know potentially you know risking the district to you know not have these relationships or not have the ability to pay warrants uh we could go into default we could be um uh you know again not an entity that vendors would want to work with because we would have an inability to pay them in a timely manner um so again this is uh unfortunately due to the number of board meetings we have um and the time between board meetings um this resolution I think is imperative to continue the operations of the district um not only is it warrant on the expense side but it's also pay War warrants that you approve and ratify um at every board meeting and so um by not having this resolution in place we would not be able to play pay employees on a bi-week bi-weekly basis um and I think that would greatly um disrupt our ability to hire and retain employees uh if we had to modify uh their payroll schedule from bi-weekly to match our governing board agenda so and we see it's not that we don't see them we just may see these expenditures after the fact is this what that's correct saying that correct yeah and at any point in time if the board I think as the practice um has an issue with the expenditure or voucher we've typically pulled that to action and discussed that and then provided any uh information that we have on that expenditure explaining you know why we expense that or um I think we've even you know changed our process you not expensing that in the future so um we're happy to have those conversations um after the fact but I think greatly you know not passing this res would greatly inhibit our ability to function on a day-to-day basis president Anderson um Mr Moore here's an example we have a voucher from May 1st that's in this folder for us to sign um some of us signed it last meeting and it came back for um more signatures um now how has that impacted our ability to be able to bring it to the next board meeting for signatures yes president Anderson member Vice President Van Hook uh So currently we have a resolution in place for fiscal year 24 um so those vouchers have been paid and expensed that's why you're seeing that that packet at this point in time so that those you are signing those you are ratifying those vouchers um because this resolution's in place now if we didn't have that all of those vouchers that you have in your hand would not be you know uh expensed essentially vendors employees would be waiting for your signature uh to approve um those vouchers and we could not physically expense those unless we have a resolution in place so currently we have a resolution in place which is why you're approving those ratifying those vouchers um if we did not have this in place we'd be bringing vouchers to you asking you for approval to cut checks or to expense vouchers to employees so um you can see from May yeah that that's a there's a lot of money on those vouchers that would not be able to be expensed from our um accounts um until the board approved them right so when when vendors bill us um typical 30 60-day that 30 yeah um so what prevents them if they're billing us net 30 what prevents us from waiting until the next board meeting to be able to make that approval because that's that's the board's responsibility so what's happening here is you guys are paying it and then the board so what if the board votes no what if you guys have made a payment but the board decides to vote no are we going to go back to the vendor and go give us our money back even though you've provided the service and we've paid you now we want the money back how I mean that puts us into a lawsuit right potentially legal legal issues so why wouldn't we if the if the vendors billing us net 30 net 60 why wouldn't we allow the board to make that decision at the following board meeting when we still have time to be able to approve that is the board's responsibility to be able to approve these expenses and not be told oh we already spent the money we just need your approval I don't see that as as a prop ER way to to be financially responsible and and as I said knowing the history of our district it's great we have we have great admin you know everything is great things can change if things change and some somebody we hire a new superintendent there's going to be time to be able to trust that superintendent and ensure that there's you know that they're acting um you know honestly um but in the meantime we need to ensure that we as board members are responsible because it's our job to be responsible for our finances but if if money is being spent and we're having to approve after the fact that takes away our responsibility as a board to make those decisions and if we are being as if we are being built 30 or 6 net 30 or net 60 that should give enough time for the board to be able to make those approvals that's all I think those are valid questions is that something can we get a do we get a glance at these before you pay like hey these are the things that will be pending or things that we'll be paying in advance you know pending approval I mean but then I guess it could open another can of worms for I guess the disagreeing with them thinking out loud um right now we've been doing this for how many years this is a standard practice um I'm not aware of any District that does not ratify vouter I think part you I don't know how involved the board wants to be but part I think the Board responsibility is to hire individuals to make um decisions based on uh approved board policies and and strategic plan and so I think part of my responsibility right is to review expenditures as well and making sure they're in line with the district's goals and and initiatives and so um I I feel like you know I have all day you know my my responsibility and my you know role in the district is to to kind of do that and so um again that's why the ratification comes uh before for the board because I think there's procedures and systems in place to uh ensure that expenses align with what uh the board's goals are and the districts ini ISS are so president Anderson and I I hear what you're saying I but I think that it's unfortunately greater than that um it's not just a vendor who's building us billing us net 30 or net 60 we have payroll we have town utility bills we have we have a lot of other bills um that we have to pay that may not fall in line with our board meetings and trying to assume it does payroll trying to get payroll approved prior to that would be very difficult um there are some months we only meet uh once during during the month um but business still goes on um I hear what you're saying what if the board you know were to say no we we don't want to approve that expense well you said that in your example you said they've already provided us a service and now we don't want to pay them then we also have another problem so um how do you accept a service how do you have someone do it and then not pay um we do get a look at them there have been plenty of times where I was like hey what is this is this what we need to be doing and I've never they've asked what would you like and we've adapted some stuff now I hear you also about unfortunately some of our our district history there has been Leaps and Bounds made to better protect the district um and quite honestly I given with and during that situation I don't even know that having this not in place would have stopped that because that was creative but um so um I I think I hear what you're saying it's our responsibility the only thing I can potentially suggest which then I think would create a ton of work is separate out what couldn't could not be paid by a warrant the expectation of your normal course of utility bills your payroll um our health insurance our while it's once a month it just also depends on how the bills fall too um by the time it's received they've got to handle it process it and then we may not come together and I'm sorry I also heard through a very tumultuous process of trying to go through a superintendent search and the amount of time that we had to meet and the amount of meetings we had to have I heard a lot of expression of inconvenience to board members and and we did spend a lot of time so I can only imagine if we're having to even meet virtually I mean you'd almost have to meet virtually once a week to make sure things are paid they're paid on time and then it's by the time you receive it it's got to be all put together for you you've got to have time to review it and we already have concerned about the amount of time we have to review our our board packet so literally you would have to at least meet virtually once a week and like I said I just don't know I I heard a lot of discontent on the amount of time that we had to take to for for that um and I think that we're we're just I think it would cause more harm than good and I I hear you this is our responsibility we are financially responsible and I think that we continue to put measures in place that help try and protect the district we put dollar amounts to you know for stop gaps to make sure that that no you can't pay this before it comes to the board you have to have approval before you can even agree to this like it's not even a matter of you can't pay this you can't even agree to it until it comes to the board for our approval um and so I think that that we would be causing more harm than good it is hard for looking at these things after the fact but I also know that with this admin and working with them that if we've expressed a type of payment um we've had lots of questions what I don't want to just see that we paid Amazon this I want the details what was this Amazon purchase and they have been gracious and great on providing that and I know that's their responsibility to provide it that takes time so um is it ideal for us to actually review payments and pay it after they're paid no it's not ideal um and we can continue to try and put processes in place that can meet everybody's needs but you it takes Manpower too and you have to have the people to do that um and then you have to have the the commitment of someone who of at least three people who are going to meet every week to approve them after they've had time to review them some are going to be greater than others it just depends on what's on the the payment plan that week so I understand what you're saying is our fiscal responsibility um to make sure that we're being responsible and only paying what we believe to be true expenses and if we have issues and we're seeing stuff on there that we're not comfortable with we have had a tremendous response from um this financial team and and our admin team to get us any information and to adapt anything that we're asking them to so um yes it is our responsibility I agree with you I just don't know that there is any good answer that does not cause a complete problem president Anderson board member ree um to be fair the superintendent search was in the morning I mean it was all during times where where you know I was supposed to be at work so that was the inconvenience not the fact that if we were to have these meetings you know in the evenings or whatever um such as board meetings that it would be an inconvenience no it would not um so it was just because it was in the mornings and um different hours during the day where I was at work so but if this is District normal course of business don't you think it should be done during their normal course of business and I that's actually not what I was talking about but since you brought it up don't you think that that should be done during their normal course of business if we're having to get together to approve it don't you think it should be during their business day during our board meetings no if it if we're having to come together every week to even virtually to approve these things because of time sensitive matters don't you think it should be during their business day not so what do okay so an example of something that we pay out weekly payrolls done every two weeks okay so but not weekly so we wouldn't come together every week but it just depends on when those would fall right so if so payroll obviously the one of the most important things we've got payroll we want people paid so that's bi-weekly um everything else utilities we have at least a month to pay utilities I know that um what other example would be something that would be that could not absolutely wait till the next board meeting I think student field trips um are constantly uh you know I don't know if that field trip right is next week sometimes revenue for those trips are collected up until that final week and then we expense a check um we have but we approve field trips during or board meetings student travel student TR that's the approval of student travel for um either out of state or overnight these we're talking about warrant approving the expense check to the vendor providing that travel service so you would not be able to cut that check to the service that's providing the what it would be the hotel um the charter bus airplane ticket we would not be able to cut that check and the students would not be able to travel so how long in advance do we know this information it's Case by case um there's also instances where we have uh Cooperative contracts that authorize if we um pay within Net 10 net 15 we get a a percentage discount I mean there's a number of different cases where it's not just a blanket net 30 on all expenses so I would really have to um do some due diligence and understand the true implication but um it's not as I think black and white as as we are making it be so yeah I just I I have a problem with taking away our responsibility and I mean this it's our role like and then we're giving that role away um I just have a problem with that and I I don't I don't know a solution to be honest uh can this can the wording be changed to say you know anything less than net 30 or I don't know can can changes be made to that effect um but ultimately it's our responsibility and we need need to take responsibility for it that's what we're here to do um and I mean what if this what if this said policy they're going to approve the policy and then they're just going to come to us afterwards to ratify it like how would you feel then it's a problem it's our responsibility to to approve these things that's all I have sorry president Anderson um I think there's a lot of the structure of how this system works and how this process works that has some feeling of discomfort because of the manner of time legalities or things that we have to do right we can't even set a board meeting without making sure we have 24 hours notice before we post it and these types of things right so there are a lot of logistic things that sometimes we're just beholden to the process um and understand that there is concern we have policies in place we have approved vendor lists we have as much as we possibly can in order to ensure that the system continues to function to Mr Moore's point this is how it is done everywhere with respect to education in terms of the practice that we are doing it's a practice that we've been engaging for for the newest members of us the last you know uh year and a half um and I I think it's important to keep in mind that should things happen in which something arises that we are as a board unhappy with what happens then is we set policy moving forward and how that happens um we are dealing with humans right at the end of the day we have all of these policies in place and when somebody does something to violate the policy I recognize that it doesn't feel good to be like after the fact we have to go and change it but this is also not my Minority Report we cannot predict the future so we have to do the best we can to essentially assure that the system can function and I think given the the length of time it took to even try to grasp just the ramifications of not following through with this policy I I I don't I don't think we will ever do anything that necessarily would would you know ease your concerns board member Van Hook but I also go the the number of things that are negatively impacted by trying to create a a situation beyond the policies and and those types of things I don't think outweigh the benefit of the system that is in place and again our ability to update policy and and make those changes as they are needed we have done above and beyond a good portion of things with respect to making sure that our our vendor list and those types of things we follow through that policy and grateful for how we've changed and updated the policies obviously from past things to ensure that we're compliant um I I just think it's important to kind of keep in mind that that is part of the reason why we have these policies in place and yes it doesn't feel good should they somebody violate that policy to have to go back but that's literally kind of the nature of how Society functions in general um and so I mean I I I think it would be far more detrimental to not not go through with what is clearly an age-old practice these would be I think the date on this is some of these were like 612 which was in between the two meetings and these would be open for a board member to stop by or or set a meeting with you just to review prior to the meetings or even show up absolutely for our time is now moving to 6 um to show up just a little earlier and review them and ask questions as necessary I'd be happy to accommodate that any other comments or questions no okay then I motion um that the governing board approved the resolution as outlined in the board policy DK policy exhibit I guess DK d e for the execution of warrants between board meetings second all those in favor I I all those oppose I'm going to I'm going to abstain okay motion carries three with one abstention all right that's the last item correct all right future agenda items anything what are we doing the communication the communication protocols protols do we have a sorry I like the work study plan I was just any other suggestions recommendations questions okay I'm sorry all right I motion to adjourn all those in favor I I motion carries for to Zero have a great evening and uh I she said it um first and back to school just want to welcome everybody back to school I think this it
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e e e I acknowledge that the land the city of an arbor occupies is the ancestral traditional and contemporary lands of the Anish Shin including Odawa oju and bwami and wendat peoples I further acknowledge that our city stands like almost all property in the United States on lands obtained generally in unconscionable ways from indigenous peoples The Taking of this land was formalized by the Treaty of Detroit in 1807 knowing where we live work study and recreate does not change the past but a thorough understanding of the ongoing consequences of this past can Empower us in our work to create a future that supports human flourishing and justice for all individuals thanks Aon um will you do the roll call now yes uh council member Amman here Ann Arbor Vice chair Brown I'm here n Arbor chairperson Curtis here Ann Arbor uh commissioner Dale here Ann Arbor council member dish will be a little bit late uh commissioner Graham I'm here thank you commissioner guber here and and arper commissioner Marson here in an arbor commissioner mki here in an arbor uh commissioner Mitchell here in an arbor uh commissioner nedrich here in an arbor uh new commissioner Peters wood here and Arbor thank you m new commissioner Smith Karen an arber and commissioner way Arbor thank you so I think we well meet the Quorum requirements um next is the agenda does anybody want to make changes to the agenda not is there a motion to approve the agenda so moved and by commissioner mki and seconded by Vice chairman Brown all in favor of approval of the agenda raise your hands say I I I looks 100% uh does anybody want to make changes to the minutes from last month's meeting there a motion to approve the minutes seconded by commissioner Mitchell all in favor raise your hand say I I I okay so next is um public comment this is opportunity for people to speak up to three minutes please call 888 78899 enter meeting ID 66543 to raise your hand press 9 to unmute press star 6 City staff will select callers who have raised their hand one by one using the last three digits of their phone number when speaking please move to a quiet area and state your name and address at the beginning of the comments Aaron do we have any callers online I do not see any no okay so I think the next is uh new members introduction of the new environmental commissioner so um we have two new people joining us new Commissioners for this month Olivia Smith and Hank Peters wood so I asked them each to do a sh just a verbal introduction of themselves themselves um Olivia would you like to start and you're on mute happens every time uh my name's Olivia um I am from Chelsea Michigan but I came here for school so I've been living in an arbor for seven years now um I went to the University of Michigan and I work in commercial due diligence right now as an environmental consultant and also do a lot of Brownfield work in southeast Michigan thank you um commissioner Peters Woods hi my name is Hank um I am currently a dual degree graduate student at the University of Michigan studying public policy and law and I'm also working in the governor's office as a public transportation policy fellow and I'm really excited to join the commission here well we're glad both of you are here thank you thanks uh next business is the uh comprehensive plan review by Brett Leonard um you want to show your screen or you want Erin to show the presentation or or you want to answer the questions we sent you or what would you like to do um I'm happy to share the presentation so um thank you very much for uh having me uh I would like to I think uh Aon uploaded the presentation the packet but I would like to go through that briefly and then um you sh shared uh Aon shared a few of your questions with me um that uh I have a couple of thoughts on that we can maybe go over uh afterwards and then generally I just want to make sure that um if there's any other questions but um as well welcome your feedback your thoughts on any of these topics um this is a great opportunity for us to hear from from you um and augment the wide public dialogue that we're having about this comprehensive planning process um I also before I pull up the presentation I want to introduce Jamie Granger uh Jamie is a member of uh our lead consultant team interface Studios who is uh helping us lead this work so let me see if I can Master the zoom can everybody see my super exciting title slide yes all right okay so uh just to set the stage to make sure that uh we're all clear on what we're talking about we're talking about the comprehensive plan and the comprehensive plan is the city's land use policy document it in itself changes nothing it changes no laws it changes no requirements it changes no activities but it articulates what our Visions are what our goals are and actually puts together an implementation approach for us to achieve those goals so it it is uh broadly our to-do list about what we want to do going forward so that our community evolves into the community we want it to be uh it looks on a long-term Horizon uh 20 or 30-year Horizon and this plan uh has been specifically directed to uh focus on three values affordability sustainability and Equity um some of you might um have heard the term master plan uh it is the same document however we have shifted away from the terminology of master plan that can um invoke uh perceptions of slavery or paternalism and it also suggests more of a sort of a finality that um isn't isn't not appropriate because like a lot of other public policy documents comprehensive plans are intended to evolve over time so that's why you hear the term comprehensive plan use instead of master plan if that's something you're more familiar with uh because our beloved city council is passionate and wanted to make this job even harder for the planning department not only did they say uh make sure that we're delivering a plan that is achieving a sustainable affordable and Equitable future but they gave us some extra uh goals to accomplish as well um they want us to be careful to consider an Implement Those portions of the a20 living carbon neutrality plan um that plan is not part of our current land use policy documents it's obviously been adopted and invested in but when we're talking about a comprehensive plan it goes through a very specific process for adoption which that plan did not do and so this is an opportunity for us to take Those portions of that plan that are really relevant to land use and integrate them into our land use policies and regulations going forward uh we are a largely developed City so make recommendations for adding new homes and densification in single family zoned areas I'm going to have a couple of maps that show why that's really important uh develop recommendations and policies that promote fewer zoning districts or categories and contain more flexibility for reuse and adaptability over time uh we are not unique as a community that we have our regulatory framework has grown and expanded over time uh we've been Zoning for a 100 years here in the city and we've gone from seven pages in four zoning districts to over 300 pages in 34 zoning districts and with that can come uh challenges to allow the evolution and adaptability of properties and and uses in the city uh we're look we are challenged to develop a proposed land use framework that seeks to emphasize values over specified land use limitations and that is in short recognizing that even over a 20 to 30e Horizon this plan will not anticipate every evolution or need or change or decision that we're going to need to face and what this plan is going to attempt to do is if it can't solve all of those questions at least provide us with the decision Mak framework so that when we're faced with new challenges be it in geography or policy we have agreed about some of the important questions and standards that we should bring to that question so that we can collectively make that decision consistent to meet the goals that this plan identifies and then specifically to recommend policies that undo or seek to repair past land use policies and regulations that resulted in the exclusion of people based on race income or other characteristics um while we I have not yet found the examples of a specific zoning regulatory Authority here in the city we have definitely uh been involved in as a as an institution the city government and policies that have resulted in displacement of people of color uh in our community and this is an opportunity to not only make sure we don't do that in the future but what are the some L policies that we could look at to undo some of the harms of the past so we are largely wrapping up a lot of community engagement uh we've had a lot of conversations over a lot of format but a big piece of that was sharing some of the findings that we have found um relative to our plan so to start um our population has really slowed its growth compared to our surrounding area between 1970 and 2020 uh the county grew almost 60% we grew almost 25% um much much more uh th modled growth rate if you if you will and a big part of that growth in fact is students at the University of Michigan so the sort of permanent resident growth is probably even less uh more more of a severe uh difference between the surrounding area and more recently this is a 20y year Snapshot from 2 to 22 we are becoming a less familyfriendly Community um as the demographics would show us uh we are having significant increase is in our 65 and older population and in our College age 18 to 34 population but our under 18 and 35 to 64 sort of household sizes those are decreasing over that time period um again it's only a 20-year period but it's showing some very specific Trends about the makeup of our community going forward and that sort of notion of being familyfriendly has been coming up in a lot of different a lot of our engagement opportunities we're becoming a more diverse City uh the Asian and Hispanic populations are growing the white and black populations are declining as a percent of the total population um and 18% of the city uh is foreign born um so again that's I think logically that probably has a lot to do with people coming to the job center and the education center at the University of Michigan but some shifting demographics that we need to be aware of going forward going specific spefically to population uh this is just a couple of snapshots from 1960 to 2020 and the more intense colors here are the higher percentage of black population in those geographies of the city so on the left in 1960 you're seeing the KY town area and the what was the west side and now is referred to as water Hill that was the predominant black neighborhood in the city you can see as of 2020 that's been dispersed through a wide variety of factors some of those were initiatives of the city some of those were economics I sure some of that was actually those households sort of uh seeking some of the same frankly suburbanization that a lot of people were in communities across the country but it's a it was clearly um breaking up a a cohesive neighborhood to dis separate parts of the city and further out from the core of the city for sure we talked about uh the impact of the university and uh when we're talking about employment and jobs it is obviously the the the big influence we have 94,000 jobs in the city 37% of those are tied to the University of Michigan we are the fourth most economically dependent uh community on anchor institution employment in the country and more than three times the national average um we that is from a you know if I were to nerd out and go back to my planning education the first reaction that an urban planner has to that is we should really look at diversifying our economy you look at uh communities impacting like we did the loss of fiser when you have so much of your economic power tied to a single IND industry and that industry fails or leaves that can have a devastating impact on the community I don't think that's as much of a concern for us if we're going to be a company town you could do a lot worse than the University of Michigan that as an institution is going to be more stable probably going to weather recessions better but it just does it's obvious that there's a lot of economic Reliance on that as an institution in our community and of those 94,000 jobs if everybody in our community of working age were to work in those jobs we still wouldn't have enough people to fill all those jobs and we experience that on a regular basis uh 76,000 people come in to work to the city each day 18,000 leave each day and about 177,000 live and work in the city and so this is something that we're really um really focusing in on with from a scenario perspective we think this is a great opportunity to sort of test out not only some of the densification uh policies that we could be evolving in our city how those relate to sustainability particularly around Transportation opportunities um but these numbers also I anticipate to go up as you if anybody if anybody's paying attention to recent plans released by the University of Michigan for example they're proposing a lot of new growth on the University and a lot of new impact so I would fully impact these numbers to continue to climb and when we think about what our opportunity is from a land use policy I think it's really resonant that the city council was really having a lot of foresight recognizing that one of the pl places that we can sort of help to mitigate some of this impact is to provide a lot more housing opportunities in our community not everybody wants that doesn't live here and works here wants to live here but based on some survey data that we've been looking at about half of the people um anecdotally it's not scientific have expressed that yeah they would like to live in the city if they could but there's a lot of barriers for them then doing that affordability is uh probably Chief among them we are also a built out City uh so we have a couple of factors that really um drive us to really be thoughtful and creative and make decisions about every resource that we have available 42% of our partial acreage is tax exempt um the university is only about a third of that a little less than a third of that so that's that 42% is inclusive of not only the university but city parks uh Public Schools um that is a Big Slice of our property and not included in this presentation but what it means is our residential tax base really has to carry the water for services in this community because so much of that remaining land is residential land and so when you take out like if we were to take out R1 and R2 zoning and some of the other restricted property such as historic districts and flood planes and public RightWay that leaves us with about 133% of our land in order to have a lot of significant Redevelopment potential that's why it's really important that we look at all of our zoning districts uh one of the common conversations that we're happening a lot is that that directive of us looking for densification opportunities across the city Den city is sort of a loaded word and it means 10 different things to set in different people um and so what we're talking about is we are talking about every zoning in the city how can we add more housing opportunities how can we add more development opportunities that doesn't mean the same scale as aopo in every single District densy can take a lot of different forms from an accessory dwelling unit to a duplex or forel to uh town homes and you know condo buildings that were built in the 1920s and 30s and cities systematically sort of regulated them away in favor of just downtown core apartments and single family house housings over most of the city so it's really important that we look at all of our property um coincidentally when you look at this map the 133% that is sort ofe more prime or more perhaps appropriate for higher density development you're going to see a lot of overlap with recent changes that the city did in its regulatory framework to create and reone corridors to our Transit Corridor District this map highlights a lot of those areas where we have rezone them to emphasize few uh restrictions on vehicular parking and higher density and development potential particularly along our existing Transit routes in the city um so there's uh in addition to of course the downtown district which is highlighted here uh engagement as I said we've been going through engagement for the first half of this year uh we've had uh late last year for that matter this is uh uh the green Fair we had uh partnership with University of Michigan group for a house party week in September um we've held a series of meetings in the downtown library this was a really great opportunity for us to really focus not only on the comprehensive plan but some planning efforts that the Downtown Development Authority um had going on it was honestly one of the few times in my planning career where I was grateful that people walking in the door could provide input on multiple plans instead of just one plan um so I think it was a great success you see the a great turnout here represented in this at one of the one of the presentations that was held that week um we've also had a series of workshops in uh uh libraries across the city with some of the similar content um and we've heard um some similar themes through some of those so this first one is really focused on a lot on um I believe a lot of this rollup was from some of our downtown workshops and it's consistent with some of the directions that city council uh identified um more affordable and accessible housing um I think one of the really interesting things that's happening from an affordable housing perspective is that one of the reasons that I came to work for the city of an Harbor is that I was really excited that this was a community that has invested deep and and for a long time in affordable housing and for the majority of that time it was really focused on the lowest uh income levels or um 60% area immunity income and below is a common Target and what's happening over time is that more of uh I dare say more of you my peers um people and more employees at the city and and working in the city we are having more and more first uh direct uh anecdotes or connections or experience with housing affordability problems starting to push higher into income banss than they maybe traditionally did in the city and so that's great it's it's cultivating a lot of conversation and a lot of momentum to figure out what we can do on the supply side to help address that um whenever we're doing housing in the city I always tell people I can't guarantee a housing unit or a home built in the city is going to result in somebody riding their bike to work but it gives them the choice it gives them the choice to ride their bike it gives them the choice to walk gives them the choice to ride Transit that is not options available to somebody who is pick your direction of the city and building building or residing uh in a home however many miles away from the outside of the city um balancing our protection of trees and natural areas the city has a robust a natural features protection system there's no desire to diminish that um protections and the type of housing not only affordability but recognizing that for a long time uh communities built single family housing almost exclusively and recognizing that that's not a that's not always the right form that's going to work for everybody to be able to meet their housing goals or to even age in place um and we uh need to do a really good job of reaching out to people that we don't always hear from um there are members of our community that it's very easy for them to show up to a city council meeting or a Planning Commission meeting and there are those that it's really hard for them so we got to be very uh intentional and thoughtful to make sure we're hearing from A diversity of people when we're formulating these goals for the city this is uh organizing some of those those similar thoughts around those values affordability equity and sustain sustainability again these were primarily from the downtown um one of the things that we asked as part of the downtown uh exercises we it's kind of hard to see from this but you can vaguely see a couple of circles around the downtown and one of the exercises we asked uh participants at our downtown workshops was how do you envision these areas around downtown evolving should they be built up a lot built up little or stay about the same and you can see the breakdown the majority of people thought that they should be built up a lot these are great opportunities for us to realize more housing opportunities more housing typologies and in a great place in the downtown um close to job centers close to campus close to the most uh public transit choices uh and the coraly to this that I think is going to be a uh something that we need to address as part of the plan is when we start thinking about the downtown there are certain amenities and investments in infrastructure that has to happen with that on the public side that H cultivates that type of density and success thinking about uh effective sidewalks Planters uh adequate bike infrastructure those take uh public Investments and public maintenance Investments that is hard for the city to do across the board it's hard for the city of course to maintain 10 foot wide sidewalks everywhere in the city just to promote pedestrian friendliness so one of the things that we're really going to have to figure out is part of some of the land use recommendations that happen in and around the downtown are what are our strategies in order to also cultivate that infrastructure so that as the new dorms are being built on El the old elbel field what is the connection to downtown what is that infrastructure because it likely needs to evolve from a typical residential sidewalk to accommodate a much high volume of people and how are we going to fund that if it is deemed desirable Citywide we heard very similar themes more housing is really important again I think this goes hand inand with more and more people exp experiencing affordability challenges more bike lanes and pedestrian walkability there's a lot of conversation and recognition about and appreciation I would say for the success that the city has in building out some of the downtown low stress bike Network now I think it's appropriate for us to start prioritizing thinking about connecting that to other areas of the city uh for connectivity um how do we incentivize affordable and and and some of those missing middle housing for those that aren't planner nerds like me missing middle is just that it's uh something maybe in between uh uh an apartment building and a single family home maybe it's uh condos uh in a small building or row houses or a courtyard apartment just um a lot of uh the opportunity to sort of reintroduce things like duplexes and for plexes to neighborhoods that a lot of communities us included spent a 100 years making sure that you couldn't build in many of our neighborhoods anymore uh a livelier Riverfront and expansion of the downtown footprint that is uh something that we heard Citywide and similar to those that specific ex exercise I shared preservation of historic districts and green spaces the city has a an abundance of natural features and Parks um how do we protect those uh better public transit and accessibility for Mobility uh density actually drives this as well um we have a great great public transit system and it's responsive to the desire so when we're making land use decisions that help drive more demand and connection to Transit that will increase the opport that will increase the opportunity that that service will be augmented in frequency or span of service or timeliness uh more small businesses and neighborhood retail options again that is absolutely hand inand with density when you're looking at businesses the sort of well I will say the Romantic ideal of the neighborhood coffee shop or Corner Grocery Store or you name it neighborhood bar those depend on H rooftops and households and the more households that we bring to different areas of the city will increase the chances that those neighborhood scaled businesses will be able to succeed or to succeed long term of the this was highlighting some of the data from the uh not in the downtown workshops are around the city workshops 75% of respondents were supportive of two to four units per parcel in single family areas uh some were not supportive of adding more density um and these are some of the comments we heard uh concerns about parking you know how is that going to impact on street parking and accessibility of that to existing property owners um is that somehow going to change the character of neighborhoods not having them feel me feel familyfriendly anymore I'm not sure exactly what that me means um and would that potentially encourage developers to play a bigger role in neighborhoods um yeah May it's possible but then that's going to provide more housing opportunities for people to live in the city uh full stop uh one of the other things that's happened a lot when we're talking we've we found this is a common uh sort of feedback that we get or observation when we're talking and engaging with the public people see the Housing Development that's happening in the city and it doesn't feel like it's meeting our goals it seems like it's maybe very student focused um maybe it's very expensive condos and it can be very frustrating because when we you see that happening you're like I thought we cared about affordable housing none of these are affordable to me or none of these are places that I would necessarily live as a family here in the city um we're trying to find ways to communicate that that actually does have a positive impact when you think about a new uh 14 story student uh apartment building being constructed on South viu and say it has 350 bedrooms in it uh those 350 heads and beds are in our community they're here and without without that building spread those 350 students amongst our housing stock it does have Ripple effects it does have uh supply and demand effects on the cost of housing on the availability of housing on where that housing is located and so part of this is also having a lot of Education opportunities and just dialogue with the community about um how things how those products that don't seem like they're meeting our goal um actually can positively impact our goal beyond the fact that they're supporting things like the ability millage the sustainability millage and other things this is the overall project schedule here we are in summer uh we are like I we have spent you'll see most of the early this late last year and early this year has been focused on input and we are shifting into some ideation and Drafting and starting to develop the actual document um this summer we're going to be doing some focus groups one of them will be uh we anticipate being focused on natural features you're all going to have to probably arm muscle or something to figure out uh cuz we're going to want some representative of this group certainly to participate in that as well as others from across the community um generally speaking our goal is to be have a draft plan uh near the end of this year um I said you know public engagement was sort of the brainstorming the the goals the fears the Big Ideas the second half of this year is starting to be translate those into what are those implement M ation steps that we want to accom accomplish what are the specific recommendations that is also going to be validated through a lot of public engagement this in if I haven't emphasized it enough this is the community's plan it's not the planning Department's plan it's not the environmental commission's plan it is the community's plan and so we're going to be keeping opportunities all along the way for feedback and input on that process and then everything going according to my dream schedule plan that will pos position Us in an opportunity early next year to actually start the adoption process of the plan and that goes that is a process unto itself in addition to uh public hearings it will require uh approval by the Planning Commission who is the official author of this document and then they deliver it to the city council where the city council um gives it a a yay or nay um and becomes at that point the if if approved the official policy document of the city I will stop there if you have any questions or um and then if um barring any or after we resolve those I did receive those questions I said I'm happy to go through those with some thoughts I have on those but maybe it's a good time here to pause first sure uh commissioner Brown you have a question oh yeah thanks Brett that was a great presentation I think it touched all the bases but um when I think of affordable housing I think of three things um that is um you know um adus um co-ops which were very successful here in the 60s it looked like and um and boarding houses I was shocked to hear that boarding houses are illegal here in an Harbor so what can the city do to Ena well okay that's great if it's not true but um what can the city do to better enable um these kind of mechanisms well uh accessory dwelling units let me start there uh since 2016 when we first enabled accessory dwelling units uh the city council has made uh I think two subsequent modifications to that each time making it them a little bit less restrictive to hopefully encourage more um but uh we are at around 50 in the community since that time so we have I think we've had some success in progressively making those a little bit more more real but I think there's a lot more opportunities for us to look at that uh we recently actually submitted a a grant proposal that we haven't heard from but part of that is actually is a goal of that is to develop pre-designed and building department approved accessory dwelling unit plans that any property owner could just download uh you know you could apply for an Adu permit click I want I want Adu permit a it's been it's been already validated to me code still obviously some specific site standards that would have to be applied to that but we think that is another opportunity to maybe reduce the barrier of Entry uh for that um and then other communities have gotten into financing opportunities that's not really land use policy but that would be another opportunity for us to explore to see if there's some opportunities if it's not the city maybe partnering with local banks to try to uh reduce some of that burden as it relates to the co-ops and uh boarding houses uh part of that 100-year history of zoning is this a lot of our regulatory framework got very anti- student a lot of our regulations became very protective of keeping students in parts of the city and not letting them move to other parts of the city and part of that was taking uh land uses like fraternities and S sororities and Cooperative housing and restricting where and how they can be located in the city um and so yeah we've had a lot of conversations I think that uh we're fortunate here in the in our community to have an active and successful Cooperative housing uh organization um and I fully anticipate that to be part of it it it can be challenging because when we're doing land use regulations we try to be very a agnostic between when you're talking about sort of the ownership Arrangements that is a house is a house I don't care if it's rented I don't care if it's own or occupied a house is a house likewise a uh Cooperative is group housing like a boarding house is group housing like a fraternity or sorority is group housing and we've regulated those in that same way but because of them being lumped together I I can't speak for all all the previous planning Commissioners and city councils but I think that's how we got to our regulatory framework because they look alike on paper from a legal regulatory perspective and there was a fear of fraternities and sororities expanding into too widely throughout the city but um I it's definitely on the table and I I think that it's an opportunity for us to look at oh thanks what about boarding houses uh same thing they're uh they're group housing they're restricted in the same way we require uh special exception uses for them um we really restrict the geography of where they can be located for all of those uses thanks commissioner Gruber thank you Brett this is really great information and this is an area where I admittedly have a lot to learn and I think I learned a lot so thanks I'm excited about this got a lot to learn too my question is um if you have thoughts on you you mentioned the familyfriendly N decreasing and we're losing families and I am a mom so I'm part of that population and I'm curious how you if you have thoughts on how the Ann Arbor Public School system challenges that are happening right now the financial crisis how that might compound this and if you are bringing aaps to the table to have them I don't know I don't know what that how that would work but I worry that that that challenge will mean fewer families coming to an arbor and more families leaving an arbor um well let me I think there there is opportunity let me let me sort of let me sort of skater on your question more broadly I think it's natural to ask how are we partnering with Anar Public Schools how are we partnering with the University of Michigan and I want to be clear this plan doesn't have a lot of shared goals in it those are entities that each have their own sort of focus missions and my mission is land use regulation you know my mission is I want this document to give me the to-do list over the next three years of immediate moderate and long-term things that we want to do to make sure that the things that are getting built and the infrastructure that's getting installed in our community meet our goals as it relates to familyfriendly I don't know time will tell it it is it is hard to know because I would say from a planning perspective for a long time an public schools have actually been a source of driving the unaffordability of our community and I know that there's some challenges there now um I suspect that there are going to be some short-term pain or moderate term pain but at their core it's a a functional organization with resources that probably a lot of other school districts would give a right eye for that don't have um so I suspect that it could impact that I I can't speak for those families but the one thing that is additionally impacting that now is even if that's not a barrier for you it's hard for you to find a home that you can afford at times in the city now so that's a place that I can work on I'm not that could very well be a challenge but at a minimum I think this opportunity is more about what are we doing about our housing stock so that we don't have two barriers if it ends up being one the short is I don't know it could but we've got other policy issues that I think we should work on to address to make sure we're not duplicating those challenges long term thank you commissioner mky thank you Brett and thank you Jamie for joining us this evening um just one question for clarification purposes I might have some comments later depending on time but the 133% of land that's available for redevelopment does that I I took your comments earlier to mean that that includes the tc1 uh areas um that's basically all of our commercial Industrial Research districts everything but R1 R2 and public land so that includes also then the surface parking lots and things like that as well uh those would be that's a good question probably depends where they where they are depends on where they are most of we over time we've rezone a lot of our we have we actually have a parking District uh we used to like parking so much that we created its own district with that's the only thing you can do in it um and we've rezoned some of those but then in the downtown some of the the public parking that the city has actually been focused on to sort of reapply for affordable housing development those are offen Zone D1 D2 so um generally speak yeah generally that what that represents is pulling out the tax exempt it's pulling out flood planes historic districts sort of areas that add a scarcity or a limitation to what can be realized and then meant to also emphasize that most of our city is zoned R1 and R2 that's single family and duplex and for us not to look at that as an opportunity to change we're we're putting a hand behind our back to reach our goals yeah okay thanks very much yeah I'll just add Jamie did you know on the zoning categories that were included yeah so you know that that 13% is like a very rough calculation um but the the way that analysis was done it was using zoning categories so if parking happened to lay in one of those categories that was included it would be in it um which you know honestly most of the park surface parking lots are probably in one of those commercial districts and not necessarily in a residential district so the answer is yes and no did just quickly the uh the county has a couple of surface parking lots are those would that be included like in the 133% or would that be some some other zoning area they probably are based on their location okay thanks you have a line there to have something done there commissioner Mitchell uh thanks for this Brett um I want to um start our Direction into talking about some natural features kinds of things but before then um I I just want to um get a sense from you how the comprehensive plan will relate to the a20 plan and measures of carbon emissions yeah that's uh one of the specific directions that city council tasked us with um the a20 plan has what I would say are some very relevant to land use policy and planning recommendations and it has some that are not what we are what Our intention is to make sure that we are incorporating those appropo to land use fully into our comprehensive plan so that we have the benefit of appropriately using those for our land use policym going forward I don't anticipate just well let me back up this is a community document I am not sitting here drafting it I don't anticipate it just being like let's add that as appendix a to the plan I do anticipate us spending some time to identify those specific land use relevant you know for example the the city uh a recommendation for the city to um bulk purchase EV Chargers in order for to reduce the cost and accessibility for those that is us making Financial incentives to that that is different from what is our desire for when a development happens how many EV Chargers are required if any regardless of the mechanisms of funding them we would never put a land use category in there that says if if the city happens to have some in a warehouse you are required to do three EV Chargers so that's bifurcating the we want EV Chargers and those have been Incorporated in our regulations but that recommendation of the a20 plan is probably not comprehensive plan worthy that is an incentive a financing mechanism the comprehensive plan will say how are we doing on EV parking do we want to go further on that do we want to back off because we've had challenges so it the I I Envision taking the pieces out of that plan that are core to land use policy and Regulation and fully incorporating those into the comprehensive plan which they are not today not sure that meas that matches the carbon measurement but go ahead that's fine thanks so Erin do you want to bring up the list of questions on natural features and we can just kind of go through those I know Brett kind of answered some of them during the conversation but I think that might just have them if it's okay I could if I could just go through them and yeah that works okay great uh so uh the first question was what is the timing the process of the natural features section um I we we talked about this with the calendar it's no different than the plan um I anticipate from basically the summer to the end of this year we're going to be drafting we are going to be drafting the entirety of the plan and so natural features is going to be part of that we are not and we are trying very hard to think about this holistically when we're talking about natural features we are not going to be doing that independent of what does that mean for Equity what does that mean for sustainability what does that mean for adding densification so um we are very intentionally trying to bring this plan together at the same time so specifically the timing and process drafting through the rest of this calendar year with the hopes of a draft ready to start considering for adoption in early 2025 I'll keep going unless somebody yells at me all right uh how uh that relates to the question about how are we going to build time in the work plan to update the natural features element I I want to be clear this plan is intended to replace five documents that are currently part of our comprehensive plan currently the city has eight plans that have all been ad adopted as our comprehensive plan that's about I don't know 800,000 pages eight different documents that have inconsistencies in them and so for you as a resident or a property owner or a policy maker it's really challenging for you to say does this meet our goals or not well let me first go through these eight documents to see what if it does or not and where there might be a question of interpretation which one do I go with so a big part of this is trying to consolidate that Canon of policy documents into a smaller accessible for not only you for the council for the Planning Commission for the public to understand what the city's priorities are so I want to be clear when we're talking about a natural features element or updating the natural features plan it is going to be a comprehensive plan it will address natural features it's going to address land use it's going to be it's going to address transportation to some regard uh it's going to address a lot of things and our goal is to make that an ex again a smaller singular accessible document that still articulates our goals still articulates our priorities for how we're going to achieve those goals but it's something that is less burdensome than going to the website now and having to click through eight documents don't even get me started on our 28 approved resource documents John mki I think one of those documents is the sustainability framework is that correct that's right this one's anticipated to be replaced okay so that would be then replaced by or incorporated into the new comprehensive plan is there any element of that that right now seems to be um Less in favor uh than what it was at the time of adoption or we not at a point yet where we have really sort of force ranked some of the the priorities or anything like that well the sustainability framework it some of you are probably here I was not when that was adopted but I read the sustainability framework as as intending to be an organizing structure for other plans rather than a document policy document unto itself I I don't think anything there has fallen out of favor but I think a lot of those things lack specificity um I I will tell you when we are um having Community conversations about tc1 zoning and the opportunity to add more housing along corridors I can I could reference in the sustainability framework well this calls for more a variety of housing types it's a pretty broad statement that doesn't always resonate with the people on the other side of that conversation who might be really scared about the changing conditions of their neighborhood so um I don't think anything there is out of favor but I don't think it provides much specificity for us to be making regulatory changes to advance them yeah I will just add at least my understanding of sustainability framework is it it almost in a ways does what Brett was just describing and that it was trying to take goals and values about sustainability across a variety of plans and compile it into one area so I think it could be useful for us to kind of look at it from that lens and think about like what are some of these broader goals that kind of apply to all these plans that that Brett's been talking about oh the next question I had was what jurisdictions have exemplary natural features protections built into their code and comprehensive plan uh n Arbor is actually pretty strong um the work of of my predecessors and you and your predecessors have resulted in a regulatory framework that is pretty robust um I we have not I I don't sit here and tell you that I have my eye on the city of bold or the city of Seattle as the model for it um I will say that uh from my experience on the development side um we have we protect a lot of natural features a lot of Natural Resources um I don't come to this with the intention that we need to back off that I don't hear that um you know there's members of city council here I don't think that was part of their Direction not that they can speak for the entirety of the council um um I I don't think that there's intention to uh lessen the protections that we have in place um likewise I want to be honest I don't hear a lot of intention to advance or protect more um that is that is a balance of meeting a lot of these goals around sustainability and new housing density and the like and so um so in short I don't know what those plans are if but I would sort of turn that around if there are plans that you think are particular particularly um excellent that you think that you would like us to make sure that we're referencing um that's why we're we're here to listen um there was a reference to the Seattle streetscape plan uh I don't know if that where that note came from um I happen I I am familiar with that because we actually looked at that when we were doing our tc1 zoning and some of our um trying to find the right balances of how we uh protect or use right of way in order to accomplish long-term multimodal which is really challenging in a built out Corridor um but tell us if you have them now um we'd love to have those resources tell us which ones are great and ideally why they resonate with you what is it about them that is it a format is it the way it uh communicates why it's important is it the areas of focus um happy to look at those and you don't have to tell me now you can um Aaron literally pull up my teams and bother me as much as she wants as those come in to her was the protection of natural features and the increase in biodiversity or ecosystem Services communicated as a priority by for the higher consultant it wasn't but I this question really got Jamie and I sort of thinking a lot and one of the it it could be it could be a a way that we frame our natural resources PRI prorities going forward um but it's interesting that it got us thinking about we're hearing choice and diversity in a lot of threads of the comprehensive plan you know you just listen to me drwn on and on about choice and diversity of housing um our transportation plan has choice and diversity of Transportation options um we are uh we as part of our consultant team we have uh retail strategist and economic analysis there's a lot of talk about the diversity of businesses I think people are seeing uh while not unique to n Arbor sort of the chain ification of a lot of downtowns ours included um there's a desire for diversification of businesses and so um the short is no it wasn't directed to us as a priority um but again if that is a a framing of how we should be thinking about that I think it's in line with a lot of the other subject areas of the comprehensive plan um that we'll be wrestling with over the course of the year related did uh the city council direct any specific policy requirements to natural features no um neither to relax them nor to expand them so again I want to reemphasize my interpretation of that is this is a community that values natural features we have a robust protection I see that as the base um I am not we have not heard a lot of we need to double that or triple that I want want to be clear with our public conversations but no there was not specific and I don't think that that means that it's not valuable to the planning commissioner of the city council I think it's a recognition that it's something that has to be considered in the balance of all the other goals that we're looking for here so Brett you missed a question uh what groups will be included in the natural features group meeting um I don't know yet but as I mentioned you are going to be included in the National features focus group uh we're anticipating focus groups around natural features around sustainability and around equity and am I missing one Jamie um we're thinking maybe like affordability or housing something housing yeah yeah so these will be groups that um I am I'm going to be appointing them to sort of help advise this process they'll probably be in the 8 to 12 people they'll probably meet three times over the course of summer to fall and those will be places those will be groups that we will be reaching out to to say all right this is this is how we think natural features affordability sustainability these are some of the important points that we think need to be included in the comprehensive plan it's not going to be deciding that but it's going to be helping us to frame that to draft it to edit it so that when we start those Community conversations they are uh well thought out they're logical and they seem to reflect important priorities for us to go forward um I I will tell you that I have been sort of thinking about some names I'm welcome welcome for suggestions on this um but a representative from this group will definitely be a part of the natural features focus group the one I missed that's it yeah thanks all right uh uh the next I'm putting I've sort of pulled two questions and I'm answering them at the same time um When developing the new natural features section can we use improving biodiversity as an overall guiding principle I sort of addressed that before but also invasive species removal possible credit or other incentives uh yes on both um one of the things I I talked about biodiversity could be a part of that it's like I said it's consistent with how we're thinking about a lot of different facets of our land use policy um invasive species removal um you the question was about possible credit or incentives I'd be curious what you mean by that um I I will tell you one of the things that's been happening at a staff level and this I think will be vetted with the focus group once that's established is we have a we have a lot of suburban Antiquated old uh uh land use regulations that emphasize open space um we have districts that require 60% open space and not always but a lot of times that results in lawn area and one of the things that we've started to talk about just at the consultant team table with um is is that really important that important to us like all of you probably know this better than I do but my training tells me that a mode Lawn isn't much better than a parking lot when you when you come to when you're talking infiltration and and ecological impact and so we recently had a project where as part of the requirements for it was to maintain a portion in a truly naturalized area um it was an area that had a very significant Bur Oak there was a lot of seedlings there and so part of that plan was let's actually protect that in a very naturalized area when we say you're keeping that open we don't mean you're going to seed it we mean you're going to keep it as a naturalized area and so one of the things that I think we are exploring is maybe it's not so much about the quantity of the open space but rather the quality of the open space um and so uh with that I don't know if that is resonant with you but I'm curious when you're talking about invasive species removal that seems very um component to that part of that would be the maintenance making sure those areas don't get overrun with invasive species but I curious just to hear a little bit more I don't know if that was anybody particular what was that kind of what was driving the question and more specifically what would you envision for credits or incentives if that were achieved well I came up in the biodiversity work group and we know there's a a cost today if people take out trees during development and they were're trying to figure out what do we do with invasive species so if we can have a cost for a tree we can give them a credit if they take out a Buckthorn tree you know maybe the same type of formula based on diameter something like that we're not we didn't get into the details how that credit would work or anything like that but it was just kind of a you know in the biodivers work group we talk a lot about invasive species in our parks in our nature areas we also know our parks in our nature areas are a small percentage of the land in the city so how do we address the big percentage of the land which is property residential property development things like that so this was just a something we could look at on that side that would go that way you you're right as far as turf grass is equal to Asphalt yeah yeah so you might I don't want to say you might be surprised but often with our development proposals actually as part of a requirement of approved site plan is invasive species do have to be removed as part of that that is often part of the approved plan if we identify that um I will be honest the long-term maintenance of that is probably less successful but it we actually pretty frequently at the time of completion that is one of the things we're often verifying is that has uh has invasive species identified been removed uh from that so um so sometimes that's just required as part of our development review process but I appreciate that I think it sounds like sort of what the staff conversation is probably pretty consistent with that question is like how do we get a how do we find ways to incentivize and ensure longer term maintenance of quality ecological areas as opposed to superficial uh if F like lawn areas yes exactly yeah um will the format of the new uh naal features section follow the format of the existing National features master plan document or the format in the current UDC probably not either um the UDC is a regulatory framework the N 204 uh natural features master plan I think not speaking to contact content it that document led us to where we are now with uh pretty robust tree cover compared to other communities a pretty robust flood plane uh regulatory framework that puts us in a good position relative to comparable communities um but I think to my point about being a more accessible more understandable more clear document I don't anticipate it looking like the 2004 document but again if there are documents that speak to you as commission members that you think man I wish we could do something like that send them our way this is the time where we're starting to marry content with format both are important so that we do end up with a document that not only says what we wanted to say but it it's understandable and it conveys the information to a wide audience so um so no but that's where we're at now this a great time to post the question if you see examples we want to we want to see them we want to hear from you about what they are uh will the content in the new current natural features master plan and the UDC natural features section be included in the new document um to be determined again I I want to be clear I'm starting we're starting from the framework that we have a very robust natural features protection framework don't anticipate uh reducing that so at a minimum yes you're going to see though that reflected there um that could be wrong I could be wrong we could go out to the community and they say I don't I don't care about Woodlands you know screw it um I don't think that's the case this is a community that's always valued those natural features so at a minimum you are going to see some of those same categories reflected but again this is an opportunity if there's something not there um that's tell us what's missing out of that if that's reflected in other plans that's something we can look at as we start looking at natural features though I just want to be honest that I think that's where we're going to we're going to have to as a community process how does that relate to our other goals of densification how does that relate to our other goals of affordability and sometimes we can't have it all sometimes we have to find tradeoffs we're finding that a lot with development as it relates to sustainability features having an affordable development that is also fully electric or that is geothermal those can add challenges one to another they're possible but sometimes we can't have it all and so part of this is if we want to start adding more robust natural features protections than what we do or new categories that's where I think we're going to have to have a lot of the conversation about how holistically it balances with some of our goals uh you specifically talked about uh to that end I think uh Native Forest fragments qualified Urban Woodlands Heritage trees rare and threatened species again the question is evolving what protections we have versus adding new ones rare and threatens we have endangered species we have Landmark trees versus Heritage trees um there's also a couple questions relative to applying those standards to single family or fourplex properties um not currently considering that uh those natural features come into play when we're doing site plan review that does result in some natural features that are not protected at the single family and fourplex level um that is not it's not something that I'm actively looking at um so it would be a very consistent application of those protections as we exist today going forward but again that's part of this conversation going forward uh would a woodland management plan be required for any development that requires removal of a native Forest fragment or qualified Woodlands I don't know I think that we don't require it now we could I think if we are going to get in the business of trying to cultivate higher quality areas rather than quantity of areas we will need some sort of mechanism whether it's wood Woodlands or other areas so I do see that there's going to be an opportunity to do something in that realm if we identify a natural area we're going to have to find the mechanism to make sure it's not a one-time removal of invasive species but an ongoing removal of invasive species and we're actually going to be talking there is talk about how this impacts public property we're actually going to be sitting down uh next mid July with that team because we're going to we need to learn a lot about some of the frankly the cost implications of that we're going to sort of try to dive into what is the cost to establish and maintain a a unit of lawn versus a unit of forest fragment that is routinely removed of invasive species we're going to have to wrestle with that if we also want to wrestle with things like affordability so I don't know about specifically a woodland management plan but as we try to cultivate more higher quality spaces whether it's a plan or regulations we're going to have to figure out a way to make sure that we're achieving that uh in order to be successful so I think it'll it's probably something very similar to a woodwind management plan but it might have broader implications than just uh Forest fragments it might just be other natural features that are of concern to us uh the new storm water management regulations reduced the emphasis on vegetative methods of storm water management in the city right of way will the natural feature section be enhanced to make sure that there isn't a gap I don't know exactly what you mean by Gap but the right of way and the private property will continue to be regulated separately our land use uh our UDC applies to private property not public property but the comprehensive plan does advise not only on private property but on infrastructure Investments so um that is something that we can look at I know you guys have had a lot more conversation on that than I have um but uh generally we have uh very robust uh storm water as it applies to private property um I'm sure you're aware we have I think we're the second only to Midland is as far as in the state of Michigan our community rating system so we have we are we have done a lot of work as a community in the storm waterer realm uh and it's reflected in some uh benefits to community members particularly who are in the flood plane uh if um develops metrics to check improvements in biodiversity would Ann aror considering partnering with um on the metrics yes yeah of course it's just a question of resources and who's going to do it but um yeah you know those things take commitment but of course um um i' love the opportunity to partner with u ofm more on land use policy but and we've had some successes and we've had some what's the opposite of successes uh but um yeah of course um I think there there's great opportunity I I I don't say that because our missions are different that there's animosity there or that we don't find Partnerships we do we partner with them on on a lot it doesn't always relate to single unified policy goals around land use and development um but yeah that'll be we talked about uh single to uh fourplex um will there be protection for natural features not prop not as currently proposed right now not we're not envisioning any change to that again the plans in its development stage that could evolve but I think that if we are going to be trying to particularly look at single family uh and duplex districts for opportunities for infill that could manifest and allowing multiple units in those District it could manifest in different lot sizes um I do think that that could result in some loss of trees um but that's one of those that's one of those trade-offs that we're going to have to wrestle with as a community do we want to provide more opportunity uh for that development to happen um and The Sweet Spot is of course to make sure that we're providing a lot of flexible options so that we're providing the most flexibility so we can achieve both you know it maybe it's not just duplexes and fourplexes maybe it's Cottages you can develop a single family lot into small cottages and they can be arranged around a sensitive natural resource but but generally um right now I don't Envision a change to that so no and I think that is the end of the questions other than not going through every all the specific um current natural features plan sections so who else has questions for Brett while we have him here commissioner Mery if I may thank you Brett I'll speak for myself uh I think the city both with a small c and a Capital C is fortunate to have you so thanks for all your work um I uh have maybe two comments um that you can respond to um the first is uh when we talk about affordability you talked about affordability for example sustainability and affordability one of the things that is never included in those calculations almost never is the social cost to carbon and and that's just I don't know how we address that but it's it you know when we talk about uh natural natur gas versus all electric or any other kinds of choices we we almost never include the social cost to carbon and I don't know if Council can address that uh I know that the university in its uh pccn recommendations is looked at um applying some type of uh carbon fee or carbon cost in in in uh its activities I don't think it's gone anywhere but it just seems to me that's a big gap um across the board and that's not limited to to the city of an Harbor um second comment I want to pick up on you mentioned uh what's going on down at elbow field earlier I think it's great that that's being considered I mean that could be when it's all built out another 4,000 beds down there or 5,000 maybe even um and I just hope uh and maybe this is again something Council can influence that the university in the city really have formal processes um that ordinate their campus plan and the city's comprehensive plan it seems like there's so many opportunities for win-win um particularly for example just in transit whether it's biking or walking um River Crossings um What U ofm is planning with their um uh what do they call their their their people mover thing that's going to be a monor rail or something like that bus Rapid Transit and it just it just seems to me that that's something that uh is really really important so you can respond to those but I just wanted to emphasize those two points and that's all from my side for tonight thanks uh I don't profess to be an I know I will just say after a20 we we have explored numerous ways to try to I don't want to say gamify but make it easier to understand the tradeoffs with carbon as it relates to developments and I'll be honest we can't always that's not always a factor and whether it meets our code or not but it's it's really challenging I've I've had several conversations with our OSI staff who I greatly respect and the answer is always it depends um so um I I can't provide anything else on that as it relates to the University of Michigan yeah I agree and I don't want to over emphasize we do have a lot of Partnerships you know when you're talking about transportation we are making we're having a lot of conversations about the use of public right of way and and how those were used and when they're reconfigured whether it's Bridges to the hospital or the presence of a brt operating on the street there are a lot of conversations so um I would generally say I I don't profess that I've had a 20 or 30y year history here in this community but I see a lot of Partnerships happening I see it improving I see it as a slow a slow build and um we're probably better now than we were 5 years ago than we were 10 years ago but yeah I I I think if we could if we were just to all sit on our back porch and sketch out why isn't this happening more collaboratively it's it's probably still short of that commissioner Mitchell thanks um I just want to uh ask one specific question and then a broad kind of thing and that is um is there any plan to assess excuse me heat island effects relating to the development that um is planned with the densification um and that could be across the city things I assume will be changing we um I think that is it's not something that we've done analysis on but we could definitely look at it I mean we've had we've had some regulatory changes over time I think sort of obtusely relative to that we started uh measuring our parking areas and when you have parking areas we require So Much landscaping now and trees within those parking areas so I think that's probably it's it is probably a good thing for us to analyze is that still the the right way to approach that um it is it is hard to not impossible but how does how does how do those policy decisions Urban heat Islands going to have an impact across the city how do we translate that to what's happening on this one parcel um that can be challenging but yeah I think it's something we can take a look at for sure sure and I think that is probably um not only near and dear to this group but also uh the sustainability framework as well thank you yeah I saw um some information about using GIS to map you know so that could be done progressively right and you could track it over time um so the the last thing my broad thing that I um found as I was trying to get ready for this meeting is that this really resonated with me as just a quote from a group called Geo designing nature into cities um and that is nature is not optional it's absolutely essential to Leading a meaningful and healthy life and I think that's what you want to plan for us right that that the city wants to have a a place where it's comfortable and nature is definitely a part of that and will be part of keeping people in an area part of what becomes you know our lives so that's that's all I don't necessarily expect you to comment but want to toss that out there commissioner Graham thank you Mr Leonard I'm very happy you came and talk to us I I wanted to listen to you for quite some time actually well I never hear that um you have couched um the protection of natural Fe features as kind of a zero sum game but it really hasn't been anywhere long has it uh I don't I I don't mean to say it's a zero some game I mean to say that I think that we have achieved a level of protection of natural features that is um I use your term adequate remarkable successful um and I don't think that there is any intention to uh compromise that at least speaking from my my team's perspective I think that as we consider going further um be it in categories or uh extent um I do think that they weren't really challenging conversations as it relates to a lot of goals in the city and so um maybe that's the definition of zero s that's not how I intend it it's it's to recog I I wanted to um I'm starting from the perspective of my experience and talking with petitioners that we have a robust framework um that has resulted I think in a lot of the nature that uh commissioner Mitchell was referencing um and just like sustainability measures there are there are trade-offs and balances that we're going to have to consider if we want to go further along those but it's never been true actually that we have essentially asked petitioners to identify the natural features on their site and then you shall not touch it's always been true that in the planning process we have balanced what they have um agreed to keep with what they've uh needed to take yeah and that balancing process has included lots of other considerations yeah and what then is required is mitigation at a modest cost actually we've never had a procedure in an arbor where there's a big tree and you can't touch it ever right that's correct yeah and I think so let me ask you if the greatest number of valuable trees and let's call them Landmark or Heritage are being lost on single two and four Family Properties without any mitigation then does that change how you balance things and by being unintended yeah single family house gets torn down a new house that's larger gets built there's a perimeter of that footprint I I think no regulatory no regulatory application where trees that aren't taken for the new footprint are protected unlike commercial property I think it's a balance I think if we were to say if if your house has a landmarker or Heritage Tree on it and you want to um you desire to build an addition maybe you want to build an addition because maybe you just want an addition because you want uh a bigger kitchen maybe you want to build an addition because you have a family member that can no longer go upstairs and they need an at grade H and so for us it is a policy decision for us to say um if if that addition requires you to remove that Landmark tree right now you can remove it because it's single family and it's not required for us to add that that is a policy decision that's going to add uh a mitigation cost to that same project so in that case in one case you can remove it and accommodate your desired Improvement of your property in the other case you can do the same but it's going to be more costly and so I think the balance there is how do we balance affordability with the remov of that resource and there there there is a tradeoff there for sure modest one yes but the real issue is the six trees that are outside the footprint of that addition they get killed by the builders because there's no regulatory framework that requires them not to kill them this is what's happening and uh I appreciate you don't want to more complicate natural features parts of your life but um uh stuff's going on out there that needs balancing and uh I want to be clear a lot of unintentional loss yeah I am not I'm not writing it now thank you this part of it is we want to hear that perspective what I'm hearing from you I don't know if the balance of the group is of agreement of that but what that comment is is we should regulate all natural features or just trees on all properties well if there's a wetland in somebody's backyard and they build their addition right up to the edge of the Wetland they're really intruding on that natural feature we don't have adequate buffers so I mean we can get into the rest of them but the main deal in an arbor are trees and especially Heritage trees that means native large trees and they're very fragile about how things happen on their Roots so I I you know there is never been a natural features ordinance in an arbor what we have done is in a very balanced way tried to conserve them and The Balancing Act is a modest mitigation charge if you don't want to it's never been no just setting the record straight thank you very much thank you commissioner Dale let's move on I want to like be clear that what I'm saying is not a solution to what Christopher commissioner Graham is saying um but and it's just a comment not a question but I think understanding they would take a lot of resources I think ultimately I really think it would be fantastic to have some sort of um comprehensive inventory of all of our ecosystem services not just you know trees or whatever including on private land and just have like a very fantastic map that basically allows us to say these are the areas that are high priority because of the ecosystem Services they provide or you know it actually helps affect our resiliency of our communities and I don't know if there like you know like people are talking about having something that is a you know incentive base or just Community awareness I don't know how how it happens in implementation but I I think starting with something that is like a very good a very good mapping resource that actually can relate to being something that ends up being almost like a quality index that can be use in the decision-making Matrix when it comes to any property um and how that is implemented I don't know but I think it speaks of what you're saying about like all green space is not is not equal and I think that there's this false tonomy between density and affordability and maintaining some of those nature-based uh Solutions you know for storm water and everything else that that I don't think it needs to be but I think that it's starting to look at how do you prioritize the very high quality areas and take that into consideration in sort of a formalized way um and I don't know if that that's something that's already being done to a greater degree than I'm aware of but well I don't want to suggest that it's always incompatible but they they can be incompatible and so finding that regulatory framework um when we're talking about that and identifying sensitive areas uh we we can do that we have to Define why we would regulate your home different than Mr Grahams home based based on that and so that that can be done um and as it relates to the mapping I don't think it's all the resources this group might know more than I do but I think that the city has made some progress on an urban forestry plan I don't know if that's just publicly uh owned inventory trees or all but um I mean I think that's um but I'm I'm certain it's not all natural features for sure does anybody else have questions and while you're thinking about Brett you mentioned the um the environmental commission would have somebody at the focus groups is that one person or how many people are you thinking one for now I'll get back to you if I'll open it up okay you all talk together if I one you'll share right oh yeah we all have the same opinion all right all right I'm going to pick though you guys gotta figure that out we'll take care of that part anybody else have questions while he's here and thank you very much Brett for a very good conversation uh my pleasure well if anybody's thinking for last questions um as I said uh share any thoughts ideas Mr Graham I'm just telling you sort of where I'm at I I take that feedback thank thank you I'm just uh that's part of this process where we want to listen to folks um uh if you have examples of plans that resonate with you please share them we want this is going to be the community's plan and um I'm I'm trying hard to deliver that but uh and we're talking to a lot of people and you're part of that so if you have examples please do share those if you have other thoughts please don't hesitate to share them you can always easily uh share them with Aaron or even easier right to my hot little inbox planning a2gov.org um all of your thoughts wishes desires questions planning related can always be uh addressed there and I would be remiss uh council member man and Dish I hope I didn't uh misattribute any of your tensions of uh comprehensive plan resolutions um thank you thank you all right thanks Brett thank you Brett and Jamie so our next agenda topic is to review the um questions about the anerobic digestor presentation that went to the energy commission and I know I sent some to Aaron and I know Bridget sent some to Aaron um are there other questions that people would like to get answered and then we can just consolidate that and move on uh Lisa dish commissioner council member dish yeah I I forgot to do this but um I really did want a more thorough answer to the question that commissioner Mery asked which is that um you know if we took the financial piece out of the picture um which of the which of the energy prod you know production outcomes benefits us more and I'm thinking of this especially right now because we're um debating the Southtown project uh Amendment and if we had a a a source you know of energy from waste from you know the endless and ever expanding source of we that this would be that would be a real alternative um that would benefit a number of green projects like this and so I I'm I think Mr mki you you asked your question better than I could possibly reiterate it so I'm really hoping that and I felt like you got an answer but it wasn't as deep because the question was complex and so I don't think the person could answer on their feet so I I would I'm very curious to hear more about that commissioner mki uh I think Lisa you you rephrase my question well I mean I think um this is um certainly an opportunity I mean humans we humans generate waste and the question is what is what is the best use of that waste and um I I think my without having studied this but just as a gut sense and having sat through the presentation this is um a good option maybe even the best option um this differs from other waste um as uh you and I were in a in a in an email thread related to Southtown um and I think this is you know certainly differentiated from Kayo waste um you know that that's that's completely different um I have two concerns that I expressed in the other meeting that I want to make sure uh the group that's evaluating this process addresses um first of all relates to one topic that we've addressed in this group and that is the question of P so we all recall that it was like in December of last year we had a presentation um from public services where we agreed with um their intent to stop taking waste and distributing it on agricultural Fields because of concerns about pasas and it is now being land filed and so the question is um if we go to a biodigestor what happens to P that's obviously in that waste I mean we know it's in there right now that's why we took the action that we took and does that indiscriminately then um simply re-enter the environment and what are the consequences of that and frankly what what are the better Alternatives and the other question that I posed that to me is really important I posed a number of them um was question of space so the the city has evaluated a biogest desert twice in the past um at uh at the current facility um at the current wrrf facility and one of the reasons for not pursuing it in the past only one was space there was another one where because of space The Proposal was to truck the waste offsite to an off-site biodigestor which would have added a lot of cost but I'm concerned that given what we just talked about given the University's plans which we also talked about which includes a lot of new housing both down in the eel field area as well as proposals for housing along Plymouth Road and potentially along Fuller Road that um if the city indeed does grow and we said we didn't have enough space in the past how do we have enough space now for a biodigestor so uh I may have mentioned that uh that one one process apparently has been um dropped and that has created some new space at the facility but I hope that the city investigates both of those very very closely as well as the one that you mentioned I mean what do we do with this waste um that is sustainable in all regards where we're maybe hopefully generating energy um we're we're doing it with a waist stream that we otherwise don't know what to do with but we have to address that in a way where we also uh capture and address the concerns related to P who else has questions or comments commissioner Mitchell you're on mute you're muted sorry um I the I'm going to send in some of my minor kind of questions but I think I want to understand even consistent with what commissioner mki was asking just the the financials relating to this um and one it's like because it appears that this can be a revenue stream related to the um the biog gas so it' be helpful to understand that um and I want to understand also whether there is a safety risk at all for running a biod digester because it is a gas um that can be um explosive as I understand um so that along with assuring um that if it is used that the hyip lines don't leak the methane which we all know is a serious um greenhouse gas Rita when I look at the um Financial models it looks like the RNG scenario cost about 7 million more but generates more annual profit from selling the natural gas but we can have make them clarify that that's what it looks like uh commissioner Brown um yeah you know I missed um well um I did was able to look at the recording of the energy commission presentation and um you know my impression is just that there's a the devil of cours is in the details here because there are various issues that John mery's already brought up and um I just think it's going to require a little bit more deliberation on everybody's part so I mean I have some questions but I think there would be I would have better questions if I had a clearer understanding of what's being proposed and what the you know what the risk and benefits are for each of these um for each of these concerns so I mean it's clear to me in general we should capture whatever methane we're generating ourselves we should capture that um because it's either going to you know it's 14 times or 20 times the greenhouse gas potential of carbon dioxide it's all going to end up as carbon dioxide eventually you know whether it's composted whether it's in a landfill or whether it's um you know burned in a car or or or in a you know gas furnace or a gas stove so I think I think it's it's a good principle to just capture whatever CH you know methane that you're making and then um and then converting it and then and then the other question is well with that methane that you captured say in the solid waste in the wastewater treatment PL how much of it you really need on site both to for generating you know heat and electricity and how much are you going to be able to export and how difficult is it to really manage that because um I've done enough like online searching to see that it's um it's a complicated process it's going to be fairly difficult to manage you know without flaring there's going to be have to be a certain amount of flaring going on on the site and um and there's a lot of balancing you have to do with the bacteria you're using in an Anor robic gesture you know that the bacteria can get all out of kilter it's a really complicated like bioreactor system that's um prone to um destabilization so it requires requires a lot of fine tuning U just to keep it safely operating and um and there is the space limitations um that's clear to me that um that it would have to be there you know there's no point in trecking it to the landfill like what the previous proposal was in 2017 and um it was good to see that there was some experience about particularly you know the Grand Rapids the City Grand Rapids efforts you know to try to implement something like this so I think so I don't think we're going to be able to do much of anything tonight but I what I would propose is that we we organize some kind of a public hearing where we all do some homework we maybe have some background discussions and let's have people from the you let's have Keith Sanders present let's have Missy present somebody from OSI uh people from the U energy commission the environmental commission who are interested and people from Weare Denali too because you know one of the things that's not clear to me is I'm sure there's methane being generated in the current wastewater treatment plant that's hard to avoid a lot of um in Europe you know where prices are a lot higher for gas and things like that and electricity both um um you know these wastewater treatment plants are already capturing their methane under their secondary treatment you know as a dome over their secondary treatment facilities so I wouldn't I would believe that there are um also other way ways of doing this instead of engineering you know a super super highly engineered anerobic digestor on a smaller footprint and is ideal um you know on a location that's close to a hospital as well as close to the Heron River so I just think I just think this deserves a little bit more deliberation and I'm not sure what the deadline is for making a decision here so that's all I wanted to add right now but I did find I did a lot of literature searches till I got crosseyed and I did find one paper here that was published two years ago um about p and poly focal substances in the atmosphere of Waste Management infrastructures so PS are clearly a problem but as usual it's um the biggest risk is by the U people working at the wastewater treatment plant but um there will be other emissions but they're not so different um what the posos emissions will be by heat and you know you can measure P emissions around landfills because of legacy and you know burial of biosolids and landfills you can measure it anywhere there are a couple of papers from China but they're all um measuring um posos in the air around manufacturing plants and um other such facilities there's not a whole lot of data out there is what I'm saying so I haven't had the chance yet to look at grants.gov or of the okay Steve if you've got more questions we can just get into Aon and we can ask the Consultants to answer all those questions I think it's a little premature to have a workshop but because I don't think they're I didn't get the impression from the first presentation they're getting ready to Source or anything they don't have money yet so it's there's still time no I understand that but this is like a um a technical challenge yes the needs to have input from a number of different that could benefit from the input from a number of people that are fairly knowledgeable and um and I would just say that so that's I don't want to take up any more time on this okay uh John mki yeah very quickly I think you're both right um this is just a plinary study um the city's not on the verge of making a decision I think Steve suggestion is a good one and I just wanted to address one comment that you made um Brooks and that is um the one scenario where um the city would sell the RNG that's taking advantage of some Financial incentives um and there's a possibility of additional to changes to the Regulatory and incentive structure that would make the other scenario um let's say nearly as favorable as as that scenario so you this is this is evolving and I think if we were to do something like this it behooves us to um maybe uh consult expertise um at Eagle and to look at some of of the other cities it's not just um Grand Rapids that just started up theirs but there's a couple of other biodigesters that are operating in the state of Michigan and certainly in the region so um I I think it's great that this has been brought to both uh commissions and I think it's great that uh the city and council is listening to these comments so I appreciate it anybody else have any topic questions on this or comments okay I think our next item on the agenda was reports from committees or other commissions Council and chair so uh for the biodiversity work group what we accomplished last month was pulled together a list of questions that Brett Leonard went through and that's pretty much all we did uh circular economy um yes John cart was leading that and he is not on the commission anymore so there's been some back and forth um Anya and I were discuss we're discussing it with Brooks and I think Anya is a little busy now so I'm going to step into John Kart's role so I'm looking forward to the next meeting but I'm not sure when that's scheduled Aon yeah I um I can follow up with Sarah on that I'm not sure when those occur either so I can follow by the solid ways folks that I know attend those a water quality oh I guess that's me again yeah I was out of town since May 15 so U we didn't have a meeting as far as I know does anybody else know Sarah Rita okay okay uh energy commission we talked about what we talked about tonight the anerobic byest proposal that was basically the the entire meeting okay uh Parks hi we met on Tuesday um we only had one item um we actually lease Mary Beth Doyle Park from the county and we renewed that contract hey uh Council I think can oh sorry yeah go ahead okay um I think maybe council member can help me but I think since the last time that this group met we passed uh incentives uh sustainability incentives is that Lisa is that news or is that not news I don't remember okay well I'm sorry if I've reported this before but recently within the last council meeting or two uh we passed a package uh uh you know uh budget allocation and um agreement with the company that's going to help us run the incentives program for things like um increasing the efficiency of your home uh air source heat pumps uh ebikes things like that and so look forward to hopefully that's going to be rolling out this summer um that's the main sustainability thing that I can think of that Council has done recently he report for chair um thanks last month voting for myself as chair and Steve for vice chair I appreciate the vot of confidence um next meeting will be inperson meeting it's going to be mostly a working session meeting um Aon is there going to be a zoom option for people that are out of town or do you know yet I think in theory we can do hybrid meetings um yes so the make sure I choose the correct room yeah so the hybrid is for people who are out of town and not for people who are in town who are trying to not come so I know we'll have at least one person who will be well out of the state so that's what the hybrid's for um the primary focus will be discussing what the work groups are going to be working on during the year what we should be doing with the environmental commission what are our prior priorities for the year um what agenda topics do we want to talk about what questions do we have for the presenters things like that so um that that'll be the general focus of that meeting and I will say in tonight's presentation with Brett Leonard I thought there was a really good conversation from a number of different Commissioners ask asking questions so I think that helps make for better meetings also and that's all I have let's see our next schedule meeting is July 25th and public commentary I think is next uh so oh sorry I missed did we get Planning Commission update if there was one we don't have anybody from the Planning Commission we don't have a Planning Commission rep right it's true council member dish has has been reporting out for us yeah yeah and I cannot remember anything I'm sorry I did not prepare to do this I was out uh canvasing before this meeting um I don't I nothing is well we did Planning Commission did discuss the CC1 wash TOA resoning um and it poses a couple of puzzles so where we might need to um where we're not putting uh tc1 fully along the the full length of the corridor because it's just that it's a very oddly configured Corridor it turns out but um that will have another discussion so we haven't voted on it yet so yeah oh no yes we did sorry no no no it's coming to council it's coming to council sorry about that yeah we did that and I guess um I did just want to say because the in-person meeting is different like there's flexibility around the time um if 7M works because that's already on your calendar that's great but we have a lot of flexibility to do a working session um so I guess let me know or we could chat about it now um or let me know at a later time but we're assuming we're all good to go at 7M unless we here otherwise does anybody have a problem starting the meeting at 7M on what date July 25th yeah our next okaywhere where the location is where what I was going to ask oh it's going to be a city hall I currently have two rooms reserved I need to do some reconnaissance to see I haven't actually seen them so I just need to make sure before I decide but it'll be in City Hall very good thank you so I think public comment is next so public comment is welcome and we'll be via telephone only to speak at public comment call I uh this information is available on the published agenda public Noti section of the city website and broadcast of this meeting on CTN Channel 16 AT&T channel 99 and online at a2gov.org watchv do we have anybody that called in Aon we do not okay is there anything else people want to talk about or should we have a motion to adjourn I um so I usually do a staff update but I did submit a written um update so you can look at that but I did just it's basically a reminder that the neighborhood swap is on June 29th on Saturday um at Pioneer High School sounds really cool I can't make it but um sounds like a really um unique and great event um where you can come and bring things to swap or which is not necessary but you can also find other great things so the you know the goal being not to put things in the landfill or to divert items from the landfill um and then from Environmental Services um there was a um a state hosted public hearing on June 20th uh regarding the draft discharge permit for Gman and so the city did make um verbal comments on that which was kind of a reiteration of written comments that we had already been submitted um so that is also in my notes thank you thanks Aaron commissioner Gruber I just want to share um some brief news about the University of Michigan uh they the regions just approved shelanda Baker to be our vice Provost of sustainability and climate change might be the title and that's probably of interest to a lot of you so if you want to check that out and follow it I I'm excited because she will be seeing over seeing the Graham Institute which is where I'm working so that's some news in this space at the University of Michigan what's her background Bridget she was at the doe Anya you probably know a lot more about this she was doing some really cool Equity energy Equity work At Doe appointed um working with Biden's office so she's got a lot of experience in external engagement and working with with communities and so she's going to bring that with to the table which I think is really exciting so hopefully that means more service and more Community engagement that UFM will do in the sustainability and climate space quickly she she was Tony or she has been Tony Ream's boss a lot of people know Tony Reams and I think he was probably instrumental in convincing her to consider the position thank you anything else is there a motion to adjourn so moved okay that's seconded by Chris Graham so thanks see everybody next month thank you thank bye bye everyone bye bye
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don't rush just don't rush do not mess up no pressure I see you [Laughter] I think we're good to go whenever everyone's ready to go 7:30 I'll call the meeting to order at [Laughter] 7:30 Al to the flag of the United States of America and to the rep for it stands nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all Mrs here Mrs Helma here Mrs Mrs Ro here Mr Golden here Mr Juliano here Mr Jones Mrs oriente here all right thank you can we have a motion and a second to approve the Action meeting minutes from the May 23rd 2024 meeting motion second all those in favor I opposed or abstain Perfect all right later presentations all right good evening everyone happy summer school is out but we are still doing our student of the month Awards and I see that we have three students here this evening out of our list so I'm going to start with you three students and then I'll read all the rest of the names parents feel free to take pictures afterwards we'll I'll take a picture with all three students who on the side here okay all right first from JFK our student of the month Addison Townsen come on up congratulations good job stay right here for me is that okay can you stand up here with me all right next we have from uh isenhower student of the month Bella Coughlin congratulations great job thank you yeah all right and also from Eisen Howard Melanie Abrams congratulations Melanie there you go and I will read off these other names here not in attendance this evening excuse me but also students of the month Logan stalard Maya Lester Joel pottinger Jack relli oia Marshall jerck Henry annah 8 Abdul Koy cherish Orlando Jackson Camry Amaya Crawford and Sarai gy and from Eisenhower Gavin whiy Gio Breo Sumaya nabii Modesta Medina Santino Magi and Liam Davenport so those are all our students at you want to come over here with me and we'll take a [Laughter] picture it's a question but not a question smile all right look up ladies thank you than yous congratulations [Laughter] as much as I know you guys would love to stay for the rest of the meeting you certainly do not have to stay for the rest of the meeting so you can you guys can go ahead before we get started with the rest of it okay thank you for thank you everyone have a great summer you too congratulations you got you up still am I yeah it's District mission statement sorry we're well we're going to skip that we're gon to we're going to skip the mission statement and the goals because we're going to be redoing those so no goals no dist all right we're gonna skip that all right so public comments we don't have any but we're going to formally open time have a motion and a second to open the meeting to the public for discussion of agenda items only motion second all those in favor I opposed or obain hearing none seeing none I have a motion a second to close the meeting to the public motion second all those in favor oppos orain right Perfect all right now you're up again I'm up again okay um time for the superintendent report so um item a motion a second first is that okay sure and then you'll explain can I have a motion a second to approve the superintendent itemsa the8 I know to sorry motion second who was that Kim Y and thank you all right yeah ahead I'm good yes all right items A and B are our Safety and Security drills for both JFK and dve all those drills were done this uh June before we let out for the summer um item C is monthly reports that are uploaded to the portal for your review of special services buildings and grounds technology curriculum and instruction and uh principal reports uh happy to report that uh we did not have any reported hibs um since our last meeting in fact we didn't have any the prior meeting as well so that's really good for us um item F uh number one is recommend that the board of education on the recommend recommendation of superintendent review the safe return plan revision all this is is the um it's the same safe return plan that we had to start filling out when we received the the federal funds for covid uh and because we're still receiving those funds we had to revise it yet again but this will be the last revision because the funds have to be encumbered by the end of September else well we'll make an adjustment we'll get to them um all right uh uh item G Personnel we've been busy doing some hiring uh so the names all the names on that list are people who have been hired either to to begin um next school year um or um over the summer so you can see the list there salary and a start date for those people we still have a couple people left uh to hire but we're making really good progress I also plan on bringing them all in in September for the board meeting and introducing all of them individually to the board all the little bio and that whole thing um number two is um resignations um with regret this is Kyrie aloy teacher for 29 years effective at the end of the school year 6:30 and also um another personer for summer painter cleaner position number three uh is uh child study team um members coming in for to do evaluations in the summertime so there's two names there letter H is curriculum and instruction we had some materials that we needed to dispose of so you can see that in your list as well miss Botley put together a list of things that we needed to get rid of that is it for my section all right does anyone have any questions I'm GNA do a roll call um Mr is here Mr Jones yes Mrs R yes Mrs Reed yes Mrs Helma yes Mrs Juliano yes Mrs orian yes and Mr Golden yes perfect thank you all right do you want to take a break of course we will we'll take a break hi you're here for awards I'm assuming I was confused at first we got you who's the who's the suent getting the award s Sarai all right Sarai Sarai what grade are you at four fourth grade going into fourth or you're going into the middle school all right it's exciting love that give me one second I'll find your certificate here where it's in the back all right Sarai come on up I found Sarai you are getting this award because you have been chosen as a student of the month because you are awesome and you're doing all the right things so congratulations can you st up here take a picture do you guys want to take any pictures okay step over your better backg turn it the other way got see a blank paper girl don't put it in front of your face are you looking Mom first looking and then to me got it great job thank you guys for coming in you can say and listen to all our exciting business or you can certainly go home and continue your summer not you do not have to have Ace summer bye bu my section is long but I will apply by it it's just our annual approvals of a lot of different things that we do every year um so I'm going to start with a motion in a second to approve the business and finance items um a through AQ can I have a motion in a second motion second all right here we go we have the financial report for the month of May 2024 um no line item has been overextended we did have sufficient funds available to meet the financial obligations for the remainder of the year the treasurer and secretary's report are in agreement for May um no changes in anticipated Revenue amounts or sources a is the um payment of the bills has everyone had a chance to review at least one time yeah at least one time okay um uh and then f is to approve the source for teachers listing from may all of the rates are listed with the pay rate and the bill rate G is to approve the cafeteria dispersements for the month of June 2024 in the amount of $ 24,38 57 H is to approve the care dispersements for the month of June 2024 in the amount of 8,924 21 I is to approve the following outed District tuition contracts for 2425 one is a Grade Three student to a tentative tuition charge of $155,000 for esy that's July through August and then $ 75,4 1460 for the school year September through June um there is a $210 perum rate for Extraordinary ex Services um we also have a grade 12 plus student um that just means that they're beyond 12th grade because uh special ed students get educ until they're 21 years old so this student is on the 12 plus I believe the student has either one or two more years left um tenative tuition rate of $184 se23 this includes esy so it's July through June Jay is to approve some travel and professional development for some of our staff members K is to approve to establish the following financial institutions for deposits of school funds we currently use Republic and Citizens Bank as you know Republic will eventually switch over to Fulton but that's just going to be a natural progression um we're still approving it is Republic at this point um that's where I do all my transfers still through the Republic portal um we need to approve to appoint the following designes as authorized check signers for all of the accounts listed below we need to approve to authorize the business administrator to purchase CDs and bankets for investment purposes it's a little Antiquated we don't we haven't done that in many years but um we still put it on there just in the event that we need to um and is to approve to authorize the business administrator to transfer and wire by telephone or Internet um specifically I do this a lot for um payroll every single pay um o is to approve the business administrator as our as the district purchasing agent and set the district's bid Threshold at 32,000 for the 2425 school year and the quote Threshold at 4,800 p is to authorize the business administrator to promptly handle business Affairs including payment of invoices that the board has contracted with um or what our public utilities are to have the payments approved at our next Action meeting Q is to approve Omni group as a third party administrator for our 403b tax shelter annuities the amount of the contract is 3700 there's a lot of implications with the um IRS code and things like that so Omni kind of oversees all that to make sure we're in compliance money well spent R is to approve the following tax sheltered annuity companies that we currently um offer for our employees to um work with and that's they're all listed there s is to approve TC irons hes and Hanes as our risk management broker of record for 2425 T is to approve Brown and Brown benefit advisors as our health insurance broker for 2425 you is to approve virtual Medical Group they are currently our school physician the is to approve um Megan stotter bus administrator and Charles fluger supervisor of buildings and GRS as the right to know coordinators W is to approve to appoint Charles fluger supervisor of buildings and grounds as the district compliance officer for the 2425 school year X is to approve Megan sder business administrator as the district public agency compliance officer for 2425 why is to approve Megan ster business administrator and Charles fluger supervisor of buildings and grounds as the district poosha officers Z is to approve Megan stter business administrator as the district custodian of Records double A is to approve Charles fluger supervisor of buildings and grounds as our district safety coordinator AB is to approve Kristen Braidwood our supervisor of child sa team as our district homeless leaon AC is to approve Megan stter and Ashley Surman who is our middle school guidance counselor as the district issuing officers of working papers ad is to approve Charles fluger and Megan stodder as the district IPM coordinator that's integrated Pest Management a to approve um to designate the following locally circulated newspapers as our official publications of advertising we use Central record at occasionally um Courier Post is used more frequently just because they have a quicker turnaround um AF is to approve to resolve that Berlin Township Board of Education adopts the established policies rules and regulations of the Berlin Township Board of Education AG is to approve to allow the business administrator to maintain a petty cash fund in the amount of $200 These funds are used for tolls for field trips as well as unexpected um costs a lot of times shuck uses them for uh small purchases at Home Depot for last minute fixes and then the amounts are to be redeposited June 2025 um ah is to approve the agreement between Berlin Township School District and the interlocal purchasing system the tips program for purpose of providing competitively bid Cooperative purchasing opportunities AI is to approve the contract with burlin Township School District and NW Financial Group to provide continuing disclosure Services they're related to bonds um and we have to file that and the and the county office has to see our sign contract with them every year at budget season AG is to approve the 2425 school lunch and breakfast prices our student lunch will remain at 3:25 and our student breakfast will remain at $1.35 AK is to approve Marilyn brigh as our district affirmative action officer Al is to approve Mr Adam Lee as our school safety specialist am is to approve the agreement with learnwell to provide Educational Services for student SID number listed that was in a medical facility the rate is $55 an hour with a maximum of 10 hours of Educational Services per week a an is to approve a contract with neutr serve for the 2425 school year this was approved I think last month or two months ago but um the state wanted us to have the full amount of the contract on there cafeteria is generally self-supporting so all of the money that they get back from the state for reimbursements is all part of what gets paid to that contract there's nothing budgeted in our general fund um for neutr serve it all comes out of the self-supporting uh cafeteria fund so we had to update that just to have the total cost of the contract as well AO is to approve Kart and scater under the terms of professional contract to provide legal services for the board of education for 2425 AP is to approve Bowman and Company under the terms of professional contract to provide auditing services for the board of education for 2425 AQ is to approve the following list of contracted outside consultants for the 2425 school year these are generally used from um used by the child study team so they compile an entire list of of people that they may use for services just because they're on here doesn't necessarily mean they always use servs just to have them approved in the event that we need them um and that's it for me does anyone have any questions okay I'm gonna do a roll call then Mr Jones yes Mrs R yes Mrs Reed yes Mrs Helo yes Mrs Juliano yes Mrs oriente yes Mr Golden yes right perfect thank you um old business I don't think we have any old business um negotiations everything is uh settled at this point all of the salaries that were agreed upon have been rolled over for the July 15th payroll um Finance we didn't have finance committee because we only had just me and Stacy so we said take the night off there's a ton of bills to sign we'll give everybody a little piece of the action um so we did not have one we're at the point now where we're wrapping up our schol Year anyway um paying any bills that you know we're trying to get everything closed out I'll be working on our federal grants submitting those applications in the next month or so um had a lot of transfers had a lot of um related services for child sa team that really exceeded multiple times so but we also had a few out of District tuition placements that we didn't expect um a few other issues that needed to be T to with some higher level services so we're going to see if we can kind of ring some of that in for next year because I did subst IAL uh transfers from there um Legal Services we had transfers there kind of some sizable ones again and um trying to think nonetheless we did do a lot of transfers we did still have sufficient funds to meet our obligations for the um entire school year definitely closer than I've ever been since I've been here in this job since 2011 um so it don't be surprised if come you know November or December I say spending's Frozen um just because I don't know if we have any unanticipated expenses I'm not sure what that's going to look like so um that's Finance uh New Jersey school boards Association I don't have anything for them other than their um annual Workshop will be coming up in October that's still a little ways off and I'll reach out see if anyone was interested in going we'll register who needs to go um ed services anything um there was a reorganization meeting um I was renominated to the board of directors and I'm on the education committee they approved the new meeting schedule appointed new committee members and they're talking about purchasing a property in collinswood to use for a couple different things okay Hill yeah don't mind my my crazy notes Here I didn't get a chance to sum them up um so National Night Out first of all is August 6 600 pm to 8:00 pm um at U Brook High School and July 3rd Pine Hill is also offering uh like food trucks and activities there starting at 6 pm and fireworks so um that's the first thing the I usually sum it up so um we had two presentations uh the first presentation was given by the achieve program um two out of three of the adult the adults that run the achieve program which is also formerly known as the Twilight program if any of you are familiar with the Twilight program um came in and told us some of the good good things that are happening with them um she they said everyone is now on grade level that is there um seven graduated uh it increased most of their self-esteem and decreased discipline by having them during the day instead of I guess at night time um things that they've addressed that they've tried to make it as normal of a school day for them as possible is adding breakfast um doing driver's education tests like the um Regular students get that go to Overbrook um going outside through physical education electronic learning um and the consistent staff and the routine being yeah because they run it during they run it during the school day so yeah exactly um they did the awards at Overbrook on the 12th of June of course graduation was also that Friday and we will be having a virtual meeting on July 9th however I will not be attending but they do do not that that's for hires basically so they can hire the people throughout the summer because we don't usually have a July meeting so um and we did a lot of hiring a lot of the same Megan did um and that was pretty right and there's not much for Camy County School boards association either I really haven't seen much from anything since a free dialogue from no and that was njsba but they all kind of work together but yeah I haven't seen anything from campas County um so any other new business for anyone that you need to bring up all right we'll go into second public um motion second to open the meeting to the public for the discussion of non-agenda items second all those in favor opposed or obain hearing none seeing none can I have a motion a second to close the meeting to the public motion second that you Sarah did you say motion no it was me sorry come from that direction all right all those in favor opposed orain all right we are going to have a small executive session let me let him let me let Jacob know to kind of shut us down for a minute there may be action afterward so we're going to keep the um we're going to keep the meeting going um because we may come back and have um action after the executive session so we'll wait for him to shut it down we'll go into executive and then um we'll do our motion so just wait oh yes no you can go hia yeah we'll have to go live again when we're done because we may have action so but I don't anticipate will be that long so you can just shut it down and shut down any um audio that would be great problem thank you e e e EXP I think you don't think soond moment okay guys all right thank you all right so we just came out of executive we are gonna have um one additional motion for the evening may I have a motion and a second motion second and the motion reads recommend that the Board of Education accept the retirement of Mr Michael Murphy effective 10 2024 any questions all right roll call Mrs oriente yes Miss Juliano yes Mrs helou yes Mr Golden yes Mr Jones yes Mrs Reed yes and Mrs R yes perfect thank you all right so at this point I don't believe we have any other business so we'll go ahead and adjourn the meeting can I have a motion and a second to adjourn motion second all right meeting all those in favor I opposed or obain right perfect done July thank you everyone know never goes according to thank you for you
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potential Embrace self-directed lifelong learning develop the skills necessary for appropriate risk-taking and responsible decision- making respect themselves and others problem solve individually and collaboratively become contributing members of a diverse Global Society thank you Mr dearcy I'll now hand the floor over to Dr Smith for presentations thank you m thank you Mr canthon and if I if you wouldn't mind joining me up front along with uh Mr physic we have the great joy to recognize some students tonight and we're going to start off with two Elks essay contest winners so if I could have Briel Wolf come on up and Ben forer come on up too he's here and from the Elks we have a representative I'm eile lynville and I'm happy to be here to represent the Elks of Marlton uh each year the Elks National Foundation offers a chance for our students to write essays um and they have hold a contest for it and uh usually the topic is something on americanism uh this year the students here wrote on what what does the Bill of Rights means to be so very impressive as far as I'm concerned uh these essays are judged both at the um District level the local level and the state level and these young folks have earned their right to receive certificates from the Elks for their excellent writing skills um I am happy to present Ben and Riel their uh certificates and commend them on their uh skills in their writing and encourage them to continue continue to Great to improve their skills and to continue to learn the knowledge about our great country thank you good job thank you continuing with the theme of writing tent etsd if Paige Halper could come on up so page won the junior upstander award from the the Esther Rob Holocaust Museum and Goodwin education center I'm I'm like so amazed by that can I tell you I don't know anybody else who's ever won that so you're like in that way the most famous person I've ever met with for that award you know and uh and I I don't know if like you you want to I don't know if I'm putting you on the spot a little bit so you don't have to but like if you want to share a little bit about what that award is or what it means to you or what you had to do no it's okay that's totally fine it's totally fine well can I say then a little bit can I can I guess and if I'm right you you tell me like okay so I think it probably means that you were courageous and stood up and supported someone who needed you yeah and that's awesome so great job okay so uh if if M wants to come take a picture come on up and we'll we'll get conratulations awesome so so our last round of awards tonight this is for staff and um so we have we're gifted in etsd with amazing counselors and administrators and um so what we have tonight is both our middle schools earn the uh the no place for hate designation from the Anti-Defamation League and this is the second year in a row that they've earned it and um that takes a lot of work so first I'm going to call them up and and then because it's easier to hear about that work from the people who actually did it so if I let's have um all of our Middle School team that's here come kind of come on up so Beverly green she's here miss green Mr Brie and uh Mr luch Bell Miss Miss Mel Isaac Mr Robinson from deacy Mr Fort as well From MMS Mr Hoffman Mr Donnelly Miss [Music] Williams Laura Mason I see her over there come on up Laura and Robins come on up here and uh I'm going to turn it over I think to uh okay oh you already figured that out yeah that's good that's good all right M Robinson if you can just kind of open the window for us a little bit into sure um just a quick like brief explanation of no place for hate um each school year we Implement um three different lessons throughout our classroom six seventh and eighth graders and we just touch on topics that are really um that really you know relate to our students so we might touch on things like social media bullying conflict resolution um and we change it up every year so by the time the kids go through Middle School they'll receive nine different lessons um and they also take a pledge and if you are in the room and can look up here we actually have the students um they all come sign the pledge they do so um grade by grade and they actually really enjoy it so I think it's been very suc successful and you know we're very grateful to be able to implement it perfect visual aid for anyone watching at home it's uh in the back corner that you can't see but other than that it's a great visual aid for everyone here more reason to come on out to our meetings you can you get to get it in three dimensions um but uh thank you three again for all the hard work and um I'm sure you're already thinking about for next year yeah yeah because there's more wall space over there so um but and and and and I just while the opportunity of just standing here in addition to the new police for hate work just all your all your work all year and and everything that you that you do you know Administration and counselors together it's it's a really important teamwork and thank you for that so much yeah thank you let's get a pick yeah right we're going to move from there into public hearing on our revised 2425 budget so yeah oh yeah this is the part where thank you Miss gford good reminder this is the part where I say everyone who was here for the student and staff Awards was welcome to stay but if it is summer after all and if you have something else to do feel free um no harm no foul the uh I myself am having like Day Day Dayja Vu just saying I'm gonna we're going to talk about the budget because this is the fourth time publicly plus staff presentations back in February March um and uh but this was a unique year because this year there was legislation that passed which enabled districts who were losing state aid this year to um through a a vote a board of education vote potentially go above What's um always a 2% local tax levy cap so um and as a board this presentation reflects um an increase in that cap in order to replace restore some positions um and uh so it's these are is a positive thing and we're going to not go through um all the slides because we've done that multiple times before the focus is going to be on the changes since um our final budget presentation which was May 6th so um this will be posted on our website it'll be in my update tomorrow so people can see the colors a little bit better then but just it looked really good on my screen but here looking at it like the maroon and the fuchsia um blend a little bit but fuchsia represents changes since um the May 6 presentation you can see no changes so I'm just not going to go over these slides we've talked about them before but essentially they just tell a really sad story about our District's um financial situation being million less than the average budget for a district our size um and that brings us to the tax impact which I'll pass off to Mr Ys for that thank you Dr Smith welcome back again everybody so here we are talking about the final revised budget that we're going to be uh approving tonight so I'm going to back up a couple slides just to show you guys some changes so our total revenues total expenditures uh you'll remember budgets need to balance in New Jersey so our expenditures need to equal our revenues in this case our total spend next year is projected to be88 mil 69,3 188 it changed very little on our percentages um across the board our salaries and benefits did increase slightly uh revenues our local taxes have increased because that's where we're we're um uh will be generating additional tax levy as part of this revised budget that we're submitting and then our state funding we did receive 8,331 in stabilized school budget Aid which was a restoration of some of our state aid that we were projected to lose from the state of New Jersey that stabilized school budget Aid allows or gives eligible districts 45% of their uh loss year over so for us our loss was was about $18,000 we're getting $833 back so it changes our total loss from $500 5,300 to 496 969 or 6.8% this year uh this was a slide that showed how the state has shifted the burden since the onset of S2 um it is now a heavier burden for the local taxpayers less of a burden for the state so they're Shifting the burden we're picking up um more of that lift and then here when we look at our total reductions again that number has only Changed by the $833 that we received as restoration this year our total cumulative State funding reduction comes to just over $31 million that we've absorbed uh so far next year if state aid were to be flat um we will absorb another $ 7,627 th000 loss so that number will continue to climb for us unless we get back every dollar that was taken and then let's talk about tax levy impact we are our full impact this year is going to be 3.9% from the previous year tax levy that total number is 7,892 83 it's an increase of $2,661 and uh 2,661 th12 you can see that in the top right the gray box shows the difference year over with the increase and increased percentage in the right in the middle there I know the screen's a little hard to read but the middle highlighted bar shows the average assessed values in eam which is roughly $272,000 the increase year over dollar increase for the average assessed home in Eve sham is $140 and 64 uh if you would say hey my home is not worth 272,000 it's a sliding scale so you go to the top of the scale for every $100,000 of assessed value your dollar increase will be $516 C and then if we look at the changes from the revised budget to what was what is current or what we uh had approved previously our increase in Levy is going to 2, 66112 up from the $1.7 million on the right and you could follow the chart there so the annual uh tax dollar increase for the average assessed home was previously $92 81 and it will increase to $14.64 tax rate went from 1322 to 1.34 and that's it thank you thanks Mr y so um one additional change not reflected in the um the positions that are being restored is uh we did receive updated uh safety guidance from uh Ean police they did additional uh safety study of the um firewood crosswalk and we're thankful for that effort in in investment of energy and as a result of that updated safety guidance we are going to uh provide busing or briwood MMS and Mees for next year in the 2425 budget that was going to represent a savings of $60,000 to make that up we are going to move 60,000 from from the shift dividend instead so and this I just kept the whole presentation from last time with um any adjustments so that's why this is struck through and here as well these are the positions that'll be restored so that 940,000 that's the um the amount of additional Revenue that we're bring in by going to 3.9% as Mr E explained uh we're going to use that to restore the instrumental music position to maintain the structure of the tier three program that was going to would have been a one position reduction restore the Spanish position that was going to be cut restore the related arts positions there were two special education positions uh in class support positions that we going to be cut we restoring those as well as four teaching assistant positions and one confidential secretary position for a total of 14 positions $940,000 so we're very thankful to be able to do that moving ahead to any of these slides that were so yeah so you can see like anything that was restored is now struck through so like the music position right right there all that struck through um the tier three restructure that struck through because um we were restoring that position for next year we have been uh in communication with the Ed Foundation as they uh undertook a very extensive effort to uh in um teamwork with Community Partners to raise funds to help support part of the cost of that position and we anticipate you know don't know what the future is going to bring in terms of state aid but we we anticipate um having that same um kind of shared cost sharing partnership with ef um not for next year since we won't need it for next year since we're restoring the position as part of the 940,000 in additional Revenue but we anticipate using that shared cost partnership for the 2526 in the 2627 school year again stru through the things that were restored Elementary Spanish related arts uh then um yeah and I guess the last word I I would just say here too is um the uh we do have um and I I think I we talked about it um we were going to talk about it that's right as part of the final budget presentation we moved it to a later date and talked about it um earlier this month but uh the preschool application so um you know we have on the agenda tonight recommended to the board to approve our district to complete and submit the application when it becomes available it's not currently available we check the website pretty much every day and the 2324 preschool application is still listed not the application so it's difficult slash impossible to provide numbers for the current the upcoming school year when we don't have the application for the upcoming school year what we will do is um pending board approval tonight to complete that application the approval tonight also includes that we will put the fully completed application on the August if that is if again if the deadline's before August then it'll be on the August um agenda but it will be on the next avail board meeting uh the fully completed application with details were recommended for board approval and we will make that publicly accessible prior to the meeting um and that concludes the revised final budget presentation any questions I have a question on the preschool application so if it is due before the August board meeting will we have a meeting where we get to see all the numbers and what that means yeah so our next meeting is August 15th so if it were due before that meeting we would be submitting it and then putting it for board approval on the 15th and if the board doesn't approve it then we would um basically remove our application that the state can't approve the application without the approving the application submitted so um it can't that it can't be approved without the board so we're saying we can submit it tonight but if we don't like what it shows then we can vote it down and it would be taken by exactly exactly yeah and we and and what we'll do is because we can't we haven't really been able to start working on it too much because we don't have the uh you know the 2425 application so we anticipate any day now it'll be made available and then we'll have basically like July and that first part of August to complete it submit it but then the missing piece will be the board approval without which it can't be approved by the state so good question thank you all right thanks everybody thanks Dr Smith um we're going to have two public comments in a row the first one's going to be for any public comment about the budget specifically so this meeting will now be open to the public um concerning the 2425 school year budget however if your questions or comments pertain to litigation student or Personnel items or negotiations we would ask that you see the superintendent after the meeting since we do not discuss these matters in public please let me your comments at 3 minutes per person is there anyone would like to speak on the budget specifically hi my name's Robert raldi I live in the briwood is the additional Levy raise $700,000 did I hear that correctly uh $928,000 approximately so was the $2.3 million surplus a surprise I'm I'm not sure what 2.3 million Sur your there was a a message that went out that they're you're trying to build a reserve fund a message from the district I believe so I don't believe the district put out any message about Surplus um I said in my last update that we used 860,000 from the maintenance Reserve to balance this year's budget that's what you mean um May you'll be more familiar see let me just pull up the the board of education current year anticipated Surplus the reserves does that ring a bell I mean I'm I'm not trying to be smart but maybe I could forward this to you but it shows a capital reserve of 1.3 million and the maintenance reserve of 1 million total transfer 2.3 million yeah so you're referencing an item on the agenda where we're we the board is approving potential transfers to Capital and maintenance reserves but the board never made a statement oh okay so this just came through and I thought there was a a surplus that was being transferred to the res sure so this isn't related to the budget but if you guys allow me to clarify I absolutely so this authorization that we're seeking tonight happens at the June meeting statutorily and it is our best case scenario so if we'd like to restore some of our Capital reserves or maintenance reserves which are allowable savings accounts for the district if you will for certain requirements without this authorization tonight we can't put $1 into those accounts okay so we're just we're covering our bases in the event up to 1.3 into capital reserve and and I think it was a million dollars I put into maintenance it's my anticipation we don't come anywhere close to those numbers but in the the best case scenario I'd like to have flexibility to restore as much as possible if that makes sense yeah just what I was thinking if there's a $2.3 million surplus wire we rais in the yeah no there's no indication right now that there is a $2.3 million surplus and we won't know what our actual Surplus is until we get our fiscal year 24 audit back which we won't have until the fall okay my mistake if that makes sense though it's it's just this is authorization from the board to allow us if there's room to restore some of our reserves okay and I also want to thank you for busing the children in briwood i' I've noticed a number of incidents where the crossing guard um just just as a matter of fact in spite of the crossing guard having his hand raised and being in the center of the crosswalk whether our hired crosswalk or a police officer many people blew through it as they were reading texts I have two daughters who were five and a half feet from being struck right and I know you've communicated a number of times about this thank you for re uh examining that decision and protecting the children of briwood because it was just a question of when and that's not my feeling that's Chief Miller's feeling thank you anyone else like to comment on the budget specifically seeing none we'll move into public comment number two this meeting will now be open to the public referencing agenda items only however if your questions or comments pertain to litigations student or Personnel items or negotiations we would ask that you see the super after the meeting since we do not discuss these matters in public please state your name and address at the beginning and limit your comments to 3 minutes per person is there anyone who would like to speak about the agenda tonight going once going twice seeing none we'll move on we need an approval for Section six items 6.1 through 6.4 approval of the minutes do we have a motion motion by Mr visicaro seconded by Miss Fox any questions or comments from the board seeing none Mr y's roll call please on the approval of minutes Mr Bach yes dearcy abstained the 6.3 yes to 6.1 6.2 and 6.4 so yes to all abstain to 6.3 correct your abstention is noted thank you Miss Fox abstain 6.1 and the May 30th part of 6.4 and yes to the rest you made it easy all right I have you yes to all you're abstaining from 6.1 and May 30th item on 6.4 your exstension is noted thank you Mrs null yes to 6.1 and 6.2 abstain to 6.3 and again like Miss Fox abstain on the June 20th portion of 6.4 yes to all abstain 63 abstained to the June 20th portion of 6.4 your exstension is noted thank you Miss Lee abstain to 6.1 and yes to the rest except for the May 30th on 6.4 like Miss Fox that was May 30th yes all right so yes to all obain 6.1 and May 30th portion of 6.4 correct your exstension is noted thank you Mr fisar yes Mr uh no to 6.2 yes to everything else yes to all no to 6.2 yes thank you bear with me motion carries thank you Mr Gates we'll now move into item 7 superintendent report and administrative items we need a motion to approve item 7.1 through 7.8 do we have a motion motion by Mr demarcy seconded by Miss Lee before we head into a roll call hand the floor over to Dr Smith thank you Mr Canon uh first I'd like to congratulate all our students and staff on a great end to the school year from eighth grade graduations to end of the year parties clap outs lead graduations and more even our first ever preschool prom the wrap-up to the school year was such a wonderful time joyful and there's always that bit of Bittersweet as it brings goodbyes in the end of a chapter I'd like to thank our Board of Education artily fervently gratefully um for their support of um our work with the this final budget presentation and the million dollars in additional resources this coming year and every year Hereafter um I'd also like to share uh I I I included in the last few uh etsd updates kind of like an all call to families um for what we're calling like hopes and dreams for the coming year and the question was essentially like etsd families would you be willing to share a bit about your hopes and dreams for your child's school year last year we reached out to gradu to share messages for opening day this year we're reaching out to families we are planning our second annual opening day in service kickoff on Wednesday August 28th 2024 and are seeking responses from our families as window to help us see and feel inspired about the opportunities of the new school year we'd love to hear from as many families as possible anyone interested please email your share in writing photo or video to my secretary Cindy espito at espito e sham.
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flag of United States of America and to the stands [Music] na Mrs here Mrs amaras here Mr Mrs Elvin Mr all right not at this [Music] time I Second Coming Mrs um Mrs Le yes M Mr M Mr so we got two thingsa need agenda I move to approve the consent agenda okay Mrs Le yes Mrs amaras yes Mr mg yes Mr so before you tonight we've heard this morning I'm used to uh you don't have a copy of it did you guys have oh Ione okay um so just a couple highlights on this year's budget we are budgeting at about $120,000 more than the previous school year we also are budgeting at 602 ADM which is what you had asked for so we went ahead and weid that budget as well um um last year's budget the the year that we're currently in for the next few days there was onetime money in that budget for 200 $211,000 that we do not have in this year's budget so last year the legislature appropriated an additional $211,000 for us um I think it was like $40 billion that they had appropriated Statewide we ended up with our share pay $21,000 um some highlights in this year's budget you know there's not a whole lot of highlights since it's it's pretty tight just like you know when we did our December revisions um I really there's really nothing in here that really stands out um big thing for teachers is classroom site buch is going to be about the same as it was the previous year so they should be expecting to get about the same amount of money this year through their 301 work as they did this year um one thing we did do in this year's budget versus the previous year we did move over $160,000 of capital money into our ml budget so that is basically how we got to the number that we are at current so that actual number is 16155 um our 14% override gave us $646,000 [Music] proposed budget for year second now we thank you for your work couple thing that happen is um in working with Greg decide to increase our uh head count by hand full more um so you guys remember if we're under and we get more kids than we get funding for the state by County we don't get any more money but if we overestimate we have to the money back there's no repercussions as far as AIT finding penalties mean letter Etc so that was part of that whole thing um the only one concern that I had necessarily concern is moving Capital money overed that money if we come to needed in the future you know both places right so we need all of our Capital money and then we used to reallocating some, so I I know we're good for it this year and it sounds like probably the next couple of years that's good but is it a good long-term practice I'm not sure maybe don't get used to it but it also is it is a common practice with districts across St I also I also just want to reiterate just to remind everyone that um almost 84% of our budget goes to salaries so we're um you know having a lot of discussion on just needing to be frugal in terms of Material supplies um using grants and using our foundation provides many grants for teachers for special projects and items that they might need um really look taking a hard look at the supply list that we have what we have in store from what people donate what what we get looking at sub costs really um you know those kinds of things really do affect our budget so Greg and I will be meeting with different departments to say okay what this is what you sent what do we need to do now to kind of save um for this year because all of that just affects how we operate does they give you a wish list hey I need this they um they do and we've been really good at um like every year our teachers get $200 $200 um to SP for variety of classroom items so we're really looking at that list what is it that they request every year and do we already have it um because we also go back to the supply list that parents that teachers are asking parents to do again that's optional which is what we added a couple years ago because we didn't want people to feel like it's mandatory um but somehow um divvying up and I know um Ruth had a good idea from an example of where kids a through F bring this kids G through you know bring the other so that you're not ending up with 26 or 24 of whatever is on that list so really trying to narrow our focus on what we're ordering and what we're spending and to go to what roxan was saying about the 83% being sou budgets sou from salaries and benefits that leaves roughly a million dollars over the course of the year for everything else but on top of that M but included in that million dollars is $275,000 that we have to pay out for insurance for the buildings for the property for liability yes we've got that so you know that that million dollars that run us through the year just quickly drop down to $725,000 so you got keep track of I'm sure you do like the teachers that seem to need more St than others saying you know hey hey you know together we're watching this year we are and we're going to have that conversation with with teachers um just at the beginning of the school year and our pre-service day is going to really be a this is what we've spent on what and how can you help us ensure that we can sa in certain areas but yes we do keep track of that and for the record there really isn't anybody that abuses um the sub list but it's times where if teachers have to go or playground monitors when they're out we call in subs and we're not going to do that we're gonna you know it has to be all hands- on Deb with office staff and us who are in classrooms to cover lunch recess once in a while um that kind of stuff when teachers leave yeah used to being in the hot sun I can [Laughter] yeah they appreciate I know bet you find some good gers out there rolling around and you roll them I'm pretty sure they'd enjoy it they'd be requesting Mr MC to come to playground Duty so [Music] Mrs Le Mrs Mrs Amaria yes Mr mg yes Mr a to the conclusion um we not the word for the over no that's going to be on our next agenda so on our next meeting did you guys look okay so everybody needs to make sure to look at it again lat so yes so we'll put out another draft a final draft before the next meeting okay com yes yes okay thank you have a good day thanks bye bye
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e e e good evening everyone and welcome to the ashin planning board meeting of Thursday June 27th 20124 just a reminder to everyone that the uh meeting is being recorded and broadcast um as always our first well I will call the meeting to order officially at 7:22 p.m.
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was juming the now that Daniel give me a napkin I want to see we had a long sence but then we're going to pull some other backup document [Music] teach absolutely that's why we're have some backup documents like I'm doing right now a backup document for people like to move I went inard no I was talking about yeah now that anyway I just we we how did that change well beginning of the year oh you need CL yeah go ahead [Music] know said on the desk everybody call this meeting the order it's 5:30 now um can you please uh welome today is a regular board meeting of June 27th 2024 at 5:30 p.m.
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k12.us or to me directly um sometimes things can be a little slow to come into momentum so I wanted to plug it tonight um in case that um helps anyone uh you know take the time and thank you in advance for for that share um I did receive one today that I wanted to just read as an example I I um excised any uh specific names that's the only edit um it goes uh son Our Hope and dreams for you as you go into sixth grade are to find confidence and to know your worth all things are possible with God and we believe in you so much your dedication determination and work ethic are second to none and we can't wait to keep seeing your successes your success in school in hockey and whatever you have a passion for above all keep being a kind empathetic generous person that people look up to we are excited for your future and feel blessed to be called your family mom dad and sis and I wanted to read it just as written because it's um clearly so meaningful and personal didn't want to change a word other than the the names I really appreciate that family taken the time to share it resonates kindness empathy generosity confidence these these are all qualities that we strive to Foster in all of our students all of our staff work towards fostering those as a district and as families in a community we share these values it' be so nice to receive some more shares in response to that question again etsd families would you be willing to share a bit about your hopes and dreams for your child school year and thanks in advance to anyone who would share best wishes to all our staff and families for a wonderful summer that ends my comments thank you Mr C thanks Dr Smith any questions or comments from the board seeing none Mr Yates roll call please roll call on administrative items Mr Bach yes Mr dearcy yes Miss Fox yes Mrs N yes to all except for 7.4 is that a no or an exstension it's it's a no to 7.4 thank you your no to 7.4 yes to the rest Miss Lee yes Mr FIS Caro yes and Mr conon yes the motion carries thank you Mr Yates mooving to item eight curriculum and instruction we need a motion to approve items 8.1 through 8.6 do we have a motion motion by Mrs N seconded by Miss Fox any questions or comments from the board seeing none Mr y's roll call please on curriculum instruction Mr Vach yes Mr Demari yes Miss Fox yes Mrs N yes Miss Lee yes yes Mr fisar yes Mr comp yes that motion carries thank you moving to item nine finance and operations we need a motion to approve items 9.1 through 9.27 do we have a motion motion by Mr fysic car seconded by Mr Bach any questions or comments from the board Mr deari uh I stated at the last meeting um where I stood on the revised budget so I'm not going to harp on that on that too much uh but I will be voting no on 9.17 um from the perspective of a younger member of this town trying to look out for the next generation of taxpayers and homeowners uh not just them but the current taxpayers and homeowners uh I fear that this state is becoming increasingly more unaffordable for an entire generation of Cherokee graduates who will not be able to call Marlton their home despite loving this town growing up in this town um and and for me that that makes you know the tax increases in the revised budget um I'm not able to support that however I do want to Echo uh sincere appreciation for the reconsideration of the briwood busing uh that has been something that I've spoken about before during executive session meetings uh at the last board meeting um you know that's that's something that I think was was a was a big mistake and I'm glad that we are you know correcting that and and that we did the work to uh to make that happen so so thank you to the administration who made that happen uh thank you to the presidents who spoke up about that uh and uh and I'm glad to see that's back in the budget so thank you any other questions or com any other questions or comments from the board seeing none Mr yat roll call please on finance and operations Mr Bach yes Mr dearcy no to 9.17 yes to everything else no to 9917 yes to the arrest Mrs Fox yes Mrs N yes Miss Lee yes Mr fisar yes Mr Conan yes that motion carries thank you moving to item 10 Personnel we need a motion to approve item 10.1 through 10.11 do we have a motion motion by Mr ficaro seconded by Mr dearcy any questions or comments as it pertains to Personnel seeing none Mr Yates roll call please roll call on Personnel Mr boach yes Mr Marcy yes Miss Fox yes Mrs N yes Miss Lee yes Mr FIS Caro yes Mr conon yes and motion carries thank you moving to item 11 policy of which we have Mr Kon if you don't mind just for one moment uh just one of the Personnel approvals that just uh took place which I just want to highlight for a moment so um we uh we have with us our uh newly appointed as of uh project the date of October 1st uh director of personnel Michael mongan who is also our principal of Jagger Elementary School and uh I just um and Mr M just to just to cue cue you a little bit like when I'm done my little couple M moments of comment here if you want to say a few words uh the mik's yours um but I just preface to that um we came into the district about the same time de of 2020 and uh I can remember having breakfast at Turning Point um outside of course at that point and um just you know the the um unprecedented of that time period um the leadership you showed throughout always putting kids first working with your staff building relationships um managing a school that that um is larger than I looked it up earlier today uh jagard is larger in it in itself than six entire school districts in our County um and to do that takes a lot of talent in a lot of different areas I can't wait to see that in this new position as director of personnel so congratulations um and uh that Mike's yours but if you would like to say a few words thank you good evening I'd like to take this opportunity to express my appreciation to the the Board of Education Dr Smith Miss mulik Dr Bland Mr Yates Mr danten and to the other administrators and the secretaries are part of the interview committee I'm grateful for this I'm grateful for this time and thought that you devoted to this process also want to thank my family for coming tonight my wife my two sons my daughter had to work but and my mother is here and also my jaggard family so many showed up tonight and I I really appreciate that so when I arrived in E four years ago to become the jaggard principal I was immediately welcomed by an amazing enthusiastic community of Educators and students jaggard is a special place and I consider it a gift and a privilege that was afforded to me to have had the opportunity to be jager's principal my time at Jager truly has been four of the happiest years of my career and for that I'm truly grateful as I transition into the role your director of personnel I am truly humbled thank you for seeing my potential and giving me this opportunity I stand here tonight with pride enthusiasm optimism and a sense of responsibility to continue to promote the inclusive environment that defines the eam Township School District as your director Personnel I remain cognizant that is my responsibility to build staff capacity which is key to creating a sustainable School culture of Excellence this will be accomplished through transparent communication meaningful relation reltionship building and genuine Community engagement and a student centered approach to all decision making I look forward to Contin to work collabora with the Board of Education the members of the cabinet and my other fellow administrators in addition to the jaggard staff I'm eager to get to know and work with the other staff at our other seven elementary schools and our middle schools Mr danten rich I wish you a long happy and healthy retirement may you get the chance to spend many years doing whatever you want to do thank you for taking a few minutes to tonight and allowing me the opportunity to say a few words once again my heartfelt thanks for this incredible opportunity thank you thank you Mr mongan moving to item 11 under policy of which we have no new policy moveing to item moveing to item 12 committee reports would any committee chair like to share a report seeing none we will move into Old business of which we have no old business we'll move into new business there is no new business open public comment is next for any items of Interest this meeting will now be open to the public referencing any items of Interest however if your questions or comments pertain to litigation student or Personnel items or negotiations we would ask that you see the superintendent after these meeting because we do not discuss these matters in public please state your name and address at the beginning and please limit your comments to three minutes per person is there anyone who would like to comment on any items of Interest okay seeing none we'll move into board member announcements are there any board members who would like to share an announcement Mr Marcy although it's not entirely School related I I did want to give a massive recognition to a member of the eam Township Police Department Kevin long uh he was recently cited in many major news headlines as running into a buring house to escort uh elderly residents out uh who were unable to escape themselves uh he quite literally save their lives uh and the reason why I'm bringing this up is a thank you and B uh we have so many great police officers here in our schools um you know that that work alongside officer long um and you know they they deserve great recognition for all the work they do to keep our school safe um you know and uh and keep our community safe so thank you to officer long and thank you to all the amazing sro's in our schools thank you Mr dearcy would any other board member like to share an announcement seeing none we'll move to a motion to adjourn motion motion by Mr V car seconded by Miss Lee all those in 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and first on our agenda after that is the clerk's report Kate uh Madam chair we have not received any correspondence to the planning board since the last meeting all right thank you next on our agenda then uh our public hearings we have one public hearing tonight this is 13 Joanne drive it's a site plan approval application um for uh solar panels within the Housing Development there Peter can you give us an update on where we are sure thank you so much so at the last meeting we talked about this revie we reviewed this project and I brought to um everyone willan boy's attention that um the fire department requested uh one more Swift uh analysis uh turning radius um which showed um the turn into I believe Building 19 which is can be sh that which is on page I believe uh 14 if I'm not mistaken excuse me it's on page uh p [Music] v-9 um furthermore uh in your packets you'll see a email from uh deputy chief Lynn morahan uh citing that the fire department has reviewed this plan and that it is um it the they believe the fire truck um will be able to make the turn uh and most importantly put the Outriggers out um from the truck and so uh that is the update on the plan uh for the remaining issues um I did provide a um draft decision and I did make a couple notes to it uh since I sent this out number one I updated the um the construction drawings um I did had the I had I had 613 as a revision date it's actually 66 and then I also receive I I added into the plan uh that they were received on 624 um and just as last week we will stamp them with the with the planning office uh stamp a second item that I did update on the plan sorry pet can you just repeat um the revision date is is we have it listed as 613 in the column of dates does that does that that's good I edited that to 66 okay that's that should be 66 instead of 613 correct okay and I'll just double check so Mark Mark Don who is on the call Mark you're you're co-host so please feel free and un mute yourself uh but that is the date that I had on the submitted plans uh that were sent to us on the 24th Mark do you concur that's the date of the plans yes okay I know they were probably updated since uh but that's these are the ones that I received on the 24th that's correct um and then the second item I did just want to make a note of and I went to the Building Commissioner kind of talk through this um is regarding the uh condition regarding the construction area so obviously this solar array is going to be put up in an existing parking lot and there's no way for the applicant to chain off the parking lot uh because the the residents of the 208 units within Joan Drive Apartment Complex need to partk their cars so obviously the applicant is going to have to be vigilant of how they work and and how they manage um their work schedule and they'll have to obviously communicate with the residents of um uh Chestnut Street Apartments however all the building material including the solar arrays and the panels I said that those should be locked up uh in order they should be have a lay down area that is uh secured with a chain L fence with a lock on it that obviously the construction the the construction uh workers entities will be able to lock and secure overnight so nobody's entering into um their lay down area to to access their materials um I just think from a from a this is not a site where you're going to be able to put a chain link fence around it so I thought that was probably the best option and and speaking with the Building Commissioner that's what I kind of that's where I landed regarding that uh typical condition which has had to be edited um so other than that uh I I don't have any more updates but you know Mark please step forward as the applicant and and update the board if you have any other items you want to uh speak to but I think at this point I would leave it to the board uh again Mark donaho uh for the landlord uh echos smart Solutions is is the company that I work for there's nothing else to add uh beyond that we have a lay down area that we use for the rooftop solar we'll be using that same area we had a chain link fence around it at that time as well well we had no issues uh for several months uh with materials on site and when this when this starts to finish this is a six- week project as soon as it starts very quick thank you any questions from any questions from the board before we start to review the decision um I have a question so um the fire truck is a ladder truck but we're in the process of purchasing a ladder truck in did anyone like is that the same size as the future one or because if it was that tight I think we have to at least kind of find out right so the the note you got came from the note that I got yesterday came from Lynn Moran Deputy Chief of the fire department um and so I believe that's going to be adequate you know what they're proposing is going to be adequate for for the new truck uh for the new truck you know um this is the specs that we have these are the specs that we're Prov by the astion fire department from a from a front on angle of the truck I can tell you a fire truck it measures eight feet from side to side um the wheel I mean with the the rear view with the mirrors on each side it's a little bit more obviously those can get folded in um when a fire truck um actually we measured this yesterday yester because of this question when a firet truck puts the Outriggers out it's about 5et on each side on top of that so it's about 18t side to side with the Outriggers um we believe this plan drawn to scale will give enough room for the Outriggers in the event uh if a truck has to pull up in front of building 19 and put the Outriggers out typically a drive aisle is about 24 feet when you talk about uh when you go to a a supermarket right where people with you know where people can back out and back in um but it it seems that we will have enough room um and uh I don't see the new truck being any larger than what we currently have be any wider it might be longer but won't be wider yeah yeah yeah yeah and I think given that this is a letter as of yesterday from Lyn Mahan I don't see that we need to go back and ask them for their exactly what they were thinking I guess they they're signing off and that would be in their in their court has anyone have any other questions before we just go through the go through the document is this something we want to go through kind of item by item or should we take it section by section and just read through ourselves how do you want to we've been through a lot of the I read I read through and I I just had a couple of like points of like hm did we address it I couldn't figure out where we did so for like so I don't know how you want to do it but I didn't think it was complicated that would require like a line by line review as long as we've all read it um I just want to on page two so we changed the date of the drawings but the paragraph C it said issued for review on June 13th is that supposed to change to the 24 so I just change that okay no I just so this made a correction of it obviously I wrote um hold a revision date of June 6th and just talking about item C that refers to June 13th yeah I don't know if that's correct or not if that's supposed to be the Landscaping plan was separate yes yes it was I think it is important as as we told last time to have make sure there's a date stamp on these that matches what's in here so yeah res scanned so just um in K you can pass this along uh that is the Landscaping plan that was submitted at the last meeting uh that's where I oh issued for review yeah June 13 2024 in the okay in the stamp so that matches yeah so my question had to do like in looking at our minutes actually from May 23rd Trisha you had suggested moving um you you said the revised plan should include property lines being confirmed ensuring the enlarged area where the Transformers are located does not obstruct the parking Lane I just wanted to make sure we've addressed that or it's in decision in a sufficient way so the applicant did address that with these revised plans okay as long as form and we don't need to mention anything because we're referencing the plans yeah you can you can tell on these um plans the pink line no longer goes through the parking spaces so I assume that that's the yep the line of the fence or the park and the only other thing from the minutes that grab my attention is I had made a comment about um the two lighting poles that are being removed where the largest panel section is being installed and the developer had indicated they would be adding lighting lighting underneath the canopy and I didn't see that in the decision is that in so I don't know if we want to make an extra condition that just indicates that lights will be added underneath the canopy sure there are plans showing those lights as long as it's in the plans are they can can you direct us to that um oh is it on the sheet right here oh no those are carport details it's it's small printed at this size but if we're referencing a plan that has it I'm good I just wanted to make sure we do do you know Mark where that is in the drawing where it's I don't know where it was it was it was not in the original plan set and added and I don't know exactly and I can't see it on the screen here but I can't remember where it is in the package it was it was a it was like the Landscaping plan it was it was brought in late but it shows the location of the lights and it gives it has a little graph that talks about uh the light levels under the canopies did that come in with the Landscaping plan yeah I um it's a separate plan from the Landscaping plan I guess if we can't find it easily maybe we can ref reference it in the decision assuming yes if we got a drawing of it then add it as a table of content type a list Peter I can send it to you in three minutes uh yeah can you please send it to me and then we can kind of continue on reference it yeah and then my my only my last point was page five where we talk about paragraph four the existing trees import condition replacing with new trees I'm only curious if we want to maybe Define what the new trees are like you know new trees that are comparable to the trees being removed something like that the land the Landscaping on the landies them as red but is it imply that they're going to be similar type or size like how are we're defining them specifically I'm good then I'm that's fine that's perfect that's great so then the only addition I have is the document relative to the Lights Under The Canopy thank you Peter I can send that to you in the next three or four minutes as soon as uh soon as I get off okay you think you might have it if if it was yeah um yeah obviously on our TP all of our typical conditions um we've already talked about the screening um were we okay with the um with the location of the panel and the um Transformer where it was shown there was some reasons for doing that um I did catch on this before it before it went out that we changed uh the street names to just say adjacent streets so start that habit of not having to find specific streets for and then there is just the one special condition about if requested by applicants the applicant will provide anti-glare film for the six resident Windows facing the solar panels located in building 19 and forgive me uh are we saying we want to do that proactively or wait for a tenant to have an issue because we're still not sure there's going to be an issue it says if requested by residents so yeah I agree if residents may not want to film on their Windows they may like it as it is all right so besides the lighting which we're still looking at I think it must be somewhere I I I don't know I don't know where I can't pull it off easy but it sounds like he's going to send it to yeah Mark will send it to me and I'll add add to the front page as a as a I mean unless there's changes I can make a motion if we're ready it right now Peter okay thank you Mark um so I'll make a motion to approve the what is this called certificate of approval site plan approval Chestnut Place Apartments as drafted with the edit regarding adding the reference to the lighting Under The Canopy second that any other comments oh um should we have do we have public we didn't have public we can we can have public can I can I actually okay I'll um withdraw my motion yeah let's have public comment first is there any and there's opening up for public comment that was for you especially mark thank you no problem um okay so um Anna I guess there's notion to approve the site plan approval application for 13 Grand Drive I apologize once again we have to close the public hearing oh then I pull I would draw that once again we can do this today we can we're getting really tired I think so do you want to close this okay so um we need a motion close public I'll make a motion to close the public hearing second and a roll C vote an tmanit i cther Jersey got Trish Kendall I we made it through that now now I'll make a motion to to approve the site plan approval application for 13n Drive including the certificate of approval site plan approval as drafted with the addition of the reference to the lights being added Under The Canopy second that and I will call Anna tki I Kath Jersey gu and Trisha Kendall I okay so that is approved um with the lighting obviously edit in Mark if you can send me that I'll add it to the decision and I'll last of PL board to sign the decision tonight and file it with the clerk's office in the morning um understood I sent it so you should have it any any second um thank you very much everyone thank you have a good night all right so next on our agenda and it's been there for a while is the planning board reorganization but we're again missing a member this might be well we'll have to talk about this L later in the meeting this is just something we're kind of kicking down the road until we have until we have a full table um is that still good with everybody I just have a question so is this like the reorganization of like positions or are we talking about like our meeting schedule reorganization it's mostly uh well traditionally it's been chair Vice chair clerk um those those positions so we usually do that as shortly after elections as possible though I don't think there's any rule about when we have to do it just is how often do I it's not annual it's informal it's usually annual I don't I don't it's usually annual after after after elections and so that's when it typically happens yeah so like I said usually we just wait for a full board for obvious reasons um I think that's fine okay um if anyone wants to practice being chair and take a turn I'm more than willing so just let me know you said very high standards right I you just see what just happened didn't you right so um okay so um item number five on the agenda is the planning Board review of Hest Stein's renewal application to the design Review Committee I think we have um I saw in here um hana's uh Talent Bank form which she she refilled out and submitted so that's right after the agenda actually and I see her on live L but she probably wasn't intending to come on this quickly Hana are you are you there just a to to Hana Hana you're now a co-host so please feel free and unmute yourself uh and you can turn your camera on she is there okay hello hello so Hana if you just want to um obviously we've all we all know you um but if you just want to tell us a little bit about you know your experience on the design review committee so far Mo and mostly your continued interest I guess in in reapplying okay um well my to date has been on several different projects and I have um I mean I think I've made some suggestions that were useful I've also been very interested in just uh being aware of what's going on in Ashland kind of putting it into a bigger picture um in terms of continuing um similar interest I mean I've been an Ashland resident for a very long time I have worked for numerous architectural firms and studied architecture very interested in the development of our town and obviously you know the future beckons however uh it would be nice that it um is realized in a way that is comfortable and positive and um attractive to the residents and future residents and people who uh have lived here for a long time that it doesn't feel like a foreign place to them so I'm you know I'm just aware of all these different issues that are going on and how sometimes they're um a little you know at odds with each other however I do enjoy the process process of looking for the solutions and you know Finding ways maybe to suggest Alternatives or possibilities so I'm just uh very interested in the future of Ashland and would like to continue mainly for that reason does anyone have any specific questions for H um she and I I had called let's see what I must was at the beginning of the week the days are kind of going so fast I think earlier in the week Han and I talked by pH earlier this week was it earlier this week um that we talked by I had called her I reached out to her um and we talked by phone for actually intended to be it went on longer than probably either of us intended right to kind of discuss um the design Review Committee and the planning board and um and I think um for me primary IL what came out of that and this is not um in a way in a side um from Hana is about understanding what I'm looking for in um in for candidates for the design Review Committee and one obviously is some experience with design in some component right there's lots of different components of the design and engineering and and we need a lot of different voices but um but also I think um because we we did talk about the struggles a little bit with the planning board and design Review Committee then and like and what came out of that for me is to um is looking for candidates also that have an understanding or or um want to have an understanding of the ashin bylaws that I know that we as a planning board are obviously we're into them with everything we do that we're going back to the criteria we're going back to the bylaw on on whatever zoning District we're in and trying to understand what was intended by that bylaw when it was approved by the residents of Ashland at town meeting right and looking for areas where maybe it's outdated and maybe it has to change and that's where the comprehensive plan comes in that we are hoping the comprehensive plan starts to guide us in the future about how these bylaws might change so I'm looking for candidates that have that understanding I guess that that neither the planning board nor the design Review Committee is a free-for-all that none of us are the town architect that none of us are the town landscape architect but instead we have the set of guidelines that that we need to go by and then hopefully use our our experience to to enrich enrich those bylaws so that they so that we make the right decision according to the intention of the residents at the time and so we did have we did talk about that we talked about you know as as we go forward trying to really look at the B Hana expressed interest in if there was a committee that started to look more more at bylaws especially as the comprehensive plan um starts to reveal those things to us about where those changes should be but being being more involved in trying to look at those BW to figure out what kind of things we should propose so it's a tricky place to be I I think and that's what about knowing that you might want to change things or you know have a strong opinion about design but being able to hold back and be more neutral based on what the bylaws are are telling us and those are the types of candidates I think I'm looking for that can see that difficult place to be in acknowledge it and kind of be willing to be in that position and willing to um work toward change while still adhering to the current bylaws and I think after our convers ation I I think Hannah that you were that you were in that position that you understood that kind of difficult place and kind of willing to work with it like is that is that fair like is that a fair summary of our conversation oh I think you froze was okay was really um very beneficial and that is a very good summary of uh where we ended up so I just wanted to um be transparent and put that out for the board as well all right with that I I'm I'm going to make a motion to approve the appointment of Hannah Stein to the design Review Committee and the approval of her renewal application second that and a roll call vote De Anna tki I Katherine Jersy I and Trisha Kendall I so Hana you are reappointed for I think it's a term of three years thank you thank you for your service for the time right I appreciate it and I appreciate our conversation the other night as well so thank you you too I hope there's more to come I'm sure there will be good night all right so we are in a spot in the agenda for general public comment is there any general public comment yes has a yes thank you Mark the son4 Hon Road after Mass follow up on the comprehensive plan which was a good good meeting total a lot of people this show up had a lot of good ideas and had a good table group that I was involved in Mr Peter was the was one of the captains and guided me through and made make sure I made sense to everybody else but I I'm just saying that it was it was a good group and to follow up it was on the guidance of the zone and bylaw plans that is looking for the future and it looks to be up needs to be upgraded and it needs follow through for the cof plant and for everything else that goes through this town it was worth the time to be there I gave myself a grade of a sea cuz I I start off slow but came on strong and the table itself was a little bit ahead of me or as with me and I grade the table I go I would say a good a A+ and the whole room that night was worth the time to be there this town in the future 2035 when the Z people the Zen people will be in their 20s and they will have to say yes this town is looking in our future but since it's June 27th 2024 now we got to look forward to everything else that comes with it so keep on going with the con a plan verbal from public and everybody involved and I appreciate the time that was given and the time tonight thank you thank you Mark all right moving on to reports from board members and town planner first is comprehensive plan um thank I want to thank Mark because we I do want to report that we were able to have one full additional group rolling up their sleeves and brainstorming and helping because Mark and other members of the public that aren't part of the committee came which I think um we we can make room for even more tables next time just for context this meeting we had that Mark is referencing was was it two days ago and it was the first of two sessions that the committee is doing to develop the vision for Ashland so out of all of those public meetings that were happening over the last few months all of that data was collected by the consultant and now it's time to create a vision eventually that Vision uh will be presented obviously to the select board and the planning board in September and Kate can talk more about that meeting but ultimately Mark was one of those people just to give context yeah so there'll be a similar meeting on July 18th at the community center starting at 6 pm and we would love to have as many people as possible the um following that is on here September 4th I don't know if that's it seemed it was thrown out as a meeting night and I don't know if that's confirmed I think that's the select board date so yeah so I went back and forth actually after the meeting with the consultant and see my recollection was that we were going to look for a different date however the recollection of the committee um was that that date was going to be we were going to the the JM goson was going to present to the committee right I mean the to the both and invite the planning board and anybody interested from the comprehensive plan committee to be present and so that would take place at the uh September 4th select board meeting which is going to be the Wednesday night um after Labor Day Labor day is going to be Monday State primary is Tuesday um and uh from a voting standpoint and then we're going to have this the select board meeting night on the 4th then I think this is where I I think we everyone kind of got a little bit turned around is that there was a proposal to have a comprehensive plan meeting after the select board presentation right the same night the same night that would probably take place say in the the basement here in town hall it sounds like that's not happening and that will not happen because obviously the two select board members would not be able to make that the town manager would not be able to make that they'll be doing their business up here in this room so with that I think the presentation was going to move forward on September 4th and then the committee was going to look for a follow-up date to have a follow-up meeting meeting um as a comprehensive planning committee and just to kind of give context for the planning board role in that because the consultant did a really good job kind of explaining what's next which is that out of this comprehensive plan joint presentation that we're going to receive which is sort of like this is what we have in mind for a vision right after that the steering committee gets together and the second meeting and starts to create strategies which which are basically plans to make the vision happen right um and the way that this was explained is obviously the planning board um can participate in this in whatever way that we choose as a board but what was interesting to hear from the consultant was that that Vision after you create all the strategies and all the goals you come back to the vision a few months later to see if it's consistent because in theory by listing all the possibilities of I don't know as an example one of the them that came up was trying to find balance between development and um conservation right let's just say that that is a a goal for the town as part of our vision in that you might have 20 different proposals of zoning changes and out of those 20 you might land on 10 but then you're going to come back to that vision and see if the vision changes in light of the 10 strategies that you chose so I think that's really important for the planning board to pay attention to because all of these strategies that are going to be thrown at this steering committee are going to have Design Elements zoning elements Etc and the expertise of the planning board will be really important I have a couple questions since we have actually have time to ask them um first of all when you talk about the Visions is that um do you know is that like a one of the first SE sections in the eventual comprehensive plan like visions and then it's some paragraphs or Pages describing that's an actual develop yes exactly so does it that's my understanding does it cover um like all the different um elements transportation and ucation no so the the vision is kind of like the brainstorming of imagining what ashin looks like in the ideal World 10 years from now if you had no limits on budget or anything like that not divided subdivided not subdivided and but then that vision is going to lead to the sub to subdividing into those little categories so through if you you know I can there was five or six groups and I can read the one that came out of my group if it's helpful I can say I can tell you and I think Kate can confirm that the other vision statements that we drafted two days ago were very similar there seems to be some consistency on the steering committee in how we're starting to visualize the vision but we basically had five tables that drafted the vision two days ago and then the consultant takes those drafts tries to squeeze them into one presents it to the steering committee at this next July meeting the steering committee then line changes it and brings it to September 4th so if you're interested I can read you one of one of them from my group I don't know Kate if you have yours just to give you a flavor of it I would be if it's okay just not not to not to have it set in stone yeah just understand what a vision is yeah so this was one that was created in my group my group included Nate from the zoning board of appeals um Janet was there um who else was in my group two more individuals uh you had Nate Janet I'm terrible with names you know what I have the I have the attendant sheet you have the attendant sheet so Peter can look up who was in the group just to give you context but it was an interesting group um it was an interesting group um so this is what we ended up together developing through the exercise and like I said what was interesting is the other groups had something very similar uh by 2035 Ashland is an inclusive affordable and sustainable Town built on History walkability integrating with open Green Space and with a small town feel within our vibrant neighborhoods by 2035 Ashlin is known for its flourishing Public School System abundant public spaces and widely accessible Gathering spots Ashlin continues to protect maintain its green spaces historic features and connectivity such as bike paths p pedestrian walkways sidewalks and public transportation understanding the pressures of growth and development ashin seeks to preserve values of connectivity sustainability and inclusion including ethnic economic religious and cultural while developing neighborhoods with a common space where people can learn work shop play and retire in order to balance growth in Community Values connection Ashlin will develop a focus on people of all ages being able to afford to stay and enjoy Ashland including C crc's resources for kids opportunities for learning working and retiring adults um so a lot of the other Visions were like that so you can kind of see the flavor of it of what it represents and then whatever the ultimate vision is that you're going to hear about September 4th what happens after is the whole stering committee gets together with all of the consultant experts and sub teams all of the different experts that they have to then take whatever the ultimate vision is and start to say Okay if that is your vision for 10 years from now here's your 50 strategies to make it happen and those 50 strategies will break apart into those categories of Transportation housing or whatever to make the vision happen well there's goal so it's yeah it's Vision goals and and strategies and maybe that's because my second question is all that data that was collected all those touch points all those leads to this so did so did you guys review that data and then you wrote the stat exactly got it okay yeah okay exactly so all of those public things that we did led to the data all the data was absorbed by the whole committee then the committee broke up into these groups each group created one of these and then now you do another in theory you're doing another public reach out because right now the steering committee has these ideas of what the vision is meets again in July that can be open to the public Mark can show up again as so can other members of the public you should all show up and where did the goals can you explain that a little bit about that will be after September 4th no that will be our next meeting at least starting on them oh starting on them okay I thought similar Workshop this it be a Sim that will be we should get that a week before or maybe even sooner just smooshed up Vision one draft and then the next meeting will be a similar Workshop meeting but goals so a good point so is that trying to put the vision into a a working uh into an action item a goal is it what it's I thought it was more about themes it was I would say themes would be a good way to describe the goals yes so the themes for example out of that out of that statement I just read the themes from my group were um what were they inclusiveness green open space VA um planning that is values based or intentional to our values creating livable communities and sustainability policy so those were the five themes so my understanding is the next session you wrap up the vision statement all together you wrap up your themes and then out of those themes you're going to get strategies and all of those strategies end up being the transportation the affordable housing and whatever else that's my recollection of it I think strategies come later very specifics if we want to let's use the sustainability bring by zero Net Zero by 2040 how do we get there specific so it might be just like different terminology that you guys are like that's obviously going from General to specific but whether something's labeled a goal or a strategy or a yeah is going to become clear but I think the part that's really important is after September 4th the committee is going to get overwhelmed by all of these strategies from the Consulting team right it's going to be like oh you want sustainability here's 20 potential zoning changes somebody's going to have to start the the steering committee is going to have to start understanding out of those 20 what actually works for Ashland and this is where I believe the planning board has a very vital jurisdictional role right that's why it's a planning process so I think we need to be active in that we need to think about that and we need to help the steering committee and Kate and I just two people are not going to be able to bring all the expertise um so I would I would urge the rest of the planning board to be to be at the September 4th meeting but also to pay attention to the ultimate strategies that come late after that yeah I think if you can continue to give us a heads up about those things where you like I said I would I would I would never make a claim that I am in that I have expertise in planning however as as a group we've probably read through those bylaws more than that's most people yeah that's that's exactly point we have yeah yeah and and and we may have some experience relative to other projects as to what makes sense for Ashlin or how to do it or what needs to change okay great well that was very helpful thank you so July 18th is the second kind of meeting and then September 4th is the big one um the big one that we should try to try to be there okay there'll be another meeting at the library in August I believe on July on August 15 and so the next meeting will be at the community center which is going to be a four which is going to be a six table six seven eight how many tables we need um working session in in that's July 18th then uh just from a conversational standpoint the the comprehensive plan committee will meet again August 15th at the library um and then we'll be then the next then will be September 4th for the presentation from the cite board okay all right great thank you um okay so design Review Committee besides but we just went through in my conversation with Hana I don't have anything to add there um sustainability committee I don't I don't have anything there and a since comprehensive plan you haven't been meeting with them have no not really they haven't really reached out to me unless I've missed something um I mean I'd be happy to do it to find out if we're going to do anything on the tree bylaw yeah let's reach out because I think that we should need we need a work plan if we are going to it' be good to know what their plan is I can reach out yeah to see what what they're doing because they haven't reached just keep up to date yeah can you carbon copy me when you do that sure in case they need something okay on CPC um we did re meet recently because we have a new member coming on from um um the Conservation Commission um who also always sends a rep just like we do um so we met but otherwise you know being so far from a town meeting there really there wasn't any proposals um but I will be restarting to look at the um The Corner Spot area the farmers market area um which are kind of in limbo a little bit in in CPC but um always kind of trying to gather information but always waiting I think for action for the comprehensive plan like as much as possible right how how much how much effort gets put into those um relative to other things so let's CPC Metro West Regional collaborative that was what you had just attended uh they had a breakfast two weeks ago I did not attend Alvaro was there uh he said it was a good breakfast uh many legislators were there um and that was held at the Marboro Public Library but um I think other than that having a good turnout and it was a good conversation about what's going on from legislative perspective number one housing Bond Bill uh still right now with the Senate uh is probably the biggest piece of legislation that could affect uh any matters that we look at so I think it's still time uh TBD but um obviously if any any plany board wants to know plany board's members want to know more information about the housing Bond Bill I'm still trying to learn about it um to see how it would affect us um but I know they're still hashing out a couple things up with the Senate number one um is um by right um accessory unit dwellings which are granny Flats in-law apartments whatever you want to say I know that's a fairly large discussion uh and a piece of that bill um so does that look like it's going to pass so it got through the Senate so it got through the house um so it was he proposed that I think it was at 4 billion the Senate excuse me the house attacked on another $2.2 billion and then right now it is in the Senate so how it gets passed I think it's going to probably go through um has a lot of things going on in it um expansion of MW um affordable housing trust gets a bunch of money um huge investment into the existing public housing um is would be talk about the bond bill as a whole this is a huge Bond bill as a whole the accessory dwelling is a little ACC dwelling a little piece of might be good to see that that section I'll try to find yeah it's I would say just stay tuned and you know um I always look at MMA website Mass Municipal association website and I kind of glance at um you know any articles but it' be good to figure it out there's been a lot of stuff in the globe about it yeah I'm guessing the communities that have accessory dwellings already are going to benefit with some money so this is where you know waiting for the comprehensive plan to be done may be a disadvantage because if the state starts to regulate whatever they're regulating it could be global warming stuff it could be accessory dwellings we need to kind of be aware so that we don't miss the boat financially yeah so it would be by right so we have we have accessory dwellings they just have to take they have to Zing board of appeals special permit and I'm going to say a majority of communities have special permit sessor un dwellings at they're very minimal I probably say on the top of my head I can only name maybe two or three communities one that I know of that has by right and so I think it's just a matter of iry that out um so so is it too soon for us to start looking at that like like what that would I think there'd be a time frame a roll out you know I think from my standpoint I'm just trying to stay plugged in to what's going on it's on my radar and uh when something comes just that we everyone know we learned with like the tree bylaw and the MBTA zoning that it's it's always a heavy lift like especially when you add trying to involve the public so if this is highly likely to pass I feel like we should put that on some kind of working group docket to start I think if um if there's any text about that one in particular I have not seen any text if you if you haven't if you see any text grab it just we see kind of what I'm happy you know what what it is but um yeah I'm just uh I agree that's been that's kind of been like on the slot for a while um that's just always like where's the fire to put out right um so but uh but we could get a group together if people are interested in you know have some time and interested in working on it so but um yeah so keep that in mind who people are interested in doing that speaking of groups the MBTA communities working group yes so Peter had printed out um I don't know how many what copies is this is your copy no I'm sorry this there copies to pass out I just want to note Amanda Amanda um is has joined the meeting okay great um Amanda you are co-host so you're gonna unmute yourself who are you hey there yeah so the hey Amanda yes so the um MBTA working group met last thank you was it Tuesday last Tuesday yes yeah we met and um um I I think on the last p page of this it's kind of going through you can see kind of going through all the numbers of um units and acres and density and um what happens with different things are included and um and there's still obviously no um you know there's no uh we're absolutely doing this but what it revealed to us is that it was just a good thing that we kind of are waiting to see what happens like the like 501 you know going forward if that continues to go forward makes us think differently about about that piece of property right um what happens when we find out with um our letters to 10 to 60 and the 40b at Waverly all that kind of plays you know plays into that I think there may be um there maybe that we start to look at a small addition of another property um things that we kind of had considered before but didn't add in that might be appropriate to put in it really will be I think it's going to come at some point um to a choice in a we we talked about meeting again the first thing we did last time is to meet with the select board I think we had a meeting there to kind of brief about what um where we were at we're kind of looking I think we talked about the end of August didn't we yeah so um we did have a we kind of sketched out a time FR a time frame is to start having public forums again in the end of August public forum um and that would just be kind of another uh last time we had about two or three on Zoom we probably have the same discussion uh you know getting that process going um the biggest thing is obviously a b and I'm talking about the the set the third page here um excuse me the second page um that's kind of the big page to kind of look at um obviously there's item a b c and d we would keep all a b c and d um with A and B which what really the biggest change is uh adding Item B which is 1060 Main Street and we would be adding that in at 10024 units which would be half of that 40b um and then just down here it's the other options but from a from a scheduling standpoint I think um obviously knowing in and kind of doing the time line backwards from a uh Autumn town meeting in November mid November um we would like to have public hearings uh not public hearings excuse me public forums uh starting um late August and then rolling those through early September and indoor indoor September and then hosting um a public hearings with the planning board gearing up um in uh October um and then that would probably go to a vote in November so so why was RTD taken out like I don't like those were so AR the ucg property yeah because those were properties that I mean right or wrong are zoning supported and the community it's already DSE and that was sort of a plan that people could kind of get their head around Ashlin has been building housing right and under the plan you were you allowed to take advantage of properties that are built it clearly says that in the law it's not skirting anything by using Parcels that are developed yeah no we we we very consciously did that was one of the things we had wanted to do all along because if you remember when we talked about moving this to Spring Town or to fall town meeting um one of the things we were concerned about was the the properties that weren't a sure thing which were 501 and ucg and ucg being in litigation still right and that's a friendly 40b as an over 55 community is that an A or B is that rtda or RT that's that's not in those calculations that's that's Kate's question it was a part of our additional right and please remember this is not a proposal these are experiments we're doing as we as we wait I'm just looking of page one the proposed spring 2024 was this a representation of our prior one yes this is a representation only one on there that we weren't short about it was 501 Pond right the rest of them were legally official so the the the 501 Pawn Street um it's area B it's area B that's that's ucg so area B RTD is the one that's in litigation correct so as of this moment that's the only one that's a question mark correct okay yep yeah and again like I said I would say that everything's kind of and what's the deal with that litigation like do we know I don't you know what it is it's um it's hard to it's hard to get a good update on it you know I think the two owners um or the two the two parties are battling it out um we the town are not involved you know because it's really a matter um external parties two external parties um litigating over to my understanding is the pns of this the the the land purchase uh the purchase and sale agreement and so um with that said it's kind of gone back and forth but to say you know when's a definitive date what's going to happen I we we just don't know right so it is a risk it's unknown so the risk is that everybody that completely blows up and it's vacant land and now someone else has to sell it to someone else to do something so we have to look at the underlying zoning how many right now could be built there before we kick it out of the calculations in my opinion we're not we're not please don't we're not kicking anything out right now we're testing things I know it's not on the piece of paper but we're testing what if we take but it's not written in stone that's why I want to be clearly we take things out we put them in what does this do what is risk does that create is this risk better than that risk right that's why I'm saying like it it's you have to think about it that way because that's way we're thinking about it okay we're testing things out to see op I will look up the zone what would what would be allowed to be built in RTD if it wasn't the um the the thing we're trying to protect if possible yeah and I get what you're saying because we're looking at that right what we're trying to protect is that that right now it's a friendly 40b and an over 55 community right so all that is good good good right so the risk is that we pull it out and it's it's not affordable at all and it's more dense you know whatever so we're not it's just one of the things we wanted to keep in I mean it's all in play but it's one of the things we just had an eye on because we don't have a definitive answer on it so I just I'm having a hard time understanding how a bu right at 10 to 60 main versus a buy let's just say it went to again that became bacon property a buy right at e like I I'd love to understand the thinking of that because I don't again I mean we're not uh the the thing that may put this right back in is that it's within the radius right that that's an advantage to this property all I can say is that we're you're um the the it seems like you're thinking H there's something else going on here and there's not we're just we're just testing no I just I don't understand because it it seems no matter what you're picking something the worst case risk could be by right only uh 12% affordable versus 25% affordable you're going to get a higher density this is what it comes down to Kate is you're going to have a a higher density by right if you're going to keep add in and so if above and beyond right what you have currently proposed within that 40b and so that's what the situation so can we calculate or do you guys have those calculations like the ucg is so if you FP over to the next page so if you flip over to the next page right ucg actually has an acreage about 38 acres because we have a because some of that land has to come back to us typically it was like 20 acres we subtracted that down so you have about 18 Acres up there to our calculations um and so there therefore you have a density of about nine call it 9 9.76 units per acre right and so there four it's lower than the minimum of 15 units per acre and so depending on how it all shakes out and like K excuse me like Trisha was saying this is all very theoretical right we're running tests we're riping hypotheticals is that right now looking at it is that the the 180 units within that 40b the density is lower than the 15 unit uh minimum that you have to provide within the MBTA zoning and so if we were going to increase the density right that was always part so it was always part of the factor if you were going to increase the unit density within adte you were going to get a you could get a bigger project if this if this 40b did not move forward with the current permit that it has now and so You' be looking for more units by right on that piece of land that's what the B that's what the take that's what the takeaway is so you're it the buy right's minimum 15 correct in AC cross MBTA zoning the by right minimum is going to be 15 units per acre so as you kind of move through this you can say oh okay um you know if you're looking at cus right what's by right is 20 units per acre right what actually the the the bylaws net is about 13.99 right so that's why when we're doing our zoning change we have to increase our our density right that's why we have to increase the density in cus to move that density up to to north of indoor at 15 units per acre can I make a suggest there's a lot of moving pieces can I make a suggestion for this sheet which I think is helpful is there a way for these properties can we like add a little table here that tells us what is currently by right or by special permit as far as density and what we're proposing like so we can see the difference I think it's important to note like that these are sheets that Alro put together we just put these things totally not necessarily for yeah yeah I me for the I mean for the future like for your whether it's for the Public Presentation or for the presentation that we do with the select board I think a lot of these conversations about risk turn on the question of what kind of density is allowed there now versus what could happen and so it seems silly to talk about it without actual numbers we were intending to get in the it's not really on the agenda totally but I think this is a good conversation because it highlights what we need to discuss with the public and what we need to discuss with the select board I think it would be really helpful to have a little table for each property whether it's the spring proposal or whatever possible proposal it is what does the Zone the areas in what is the current allowed zoning what is the current like current zoning what is the current proposal that we've permitted there as far as d there's basically three columns exactly three columns and then column three what would be the proposed MBTA what's it called density so you can see you can see I see what you're think we can try to do and we can have an educated conversation without a lot of emotion or speculation I think we can try to I I will say it's it's it's it's easier said than done under the point because our different zoning are different zones call for different levels of density so and just for example right um RTD and cus right you have a you have a density per acre which is great pretty easy to talk about right right but if you start adding in add right you have a there's nothing you will not find in add um as downtown overlay District anything any mention of units per acre right now we're jumping into floor area ratio right and so maybe that column is going to kind of show that disconnect but then at least you see the proposed density versus the MBTA density the approved density for the projects already there so I think we can work on something like that but I just kind of want to state from this point on is it's not like I said it's easier said than done because there's going to be it's not as clean the cookie is not always going to be you're not always going to break it right well I think that's why we're not all brakes are going to be clean that's why we're having this debate because it's not so clear so it has to be as clear as we can try and the most transparent thing we can do for the public and for each other is to throw it out there and frankly the fact that our zoning is so confusing or so inconsistent is something that we should change and so it may be helpful to see it in one place to recognize the disconnects and frankly to present it to the steering committee for the comprehensive plan as one more thing that we could clean up and make a lot more yeah I agree because you're looking at you're you're measuring something you're me you're measure you're you're taking two different measuring approaches right to the same thing which is land right so it's complicated so okay but yeah this is just for a conversation we're working on it and we're going to start the public hearing uh excuse me public forum process probably in late August yeah public forum process and we're also going to get um the meetings on the agenda um joint meetings with the select board so that we can when we have that chart which is a good idea um talk to the select board and the planning board at the same time so okay so um reports on planning topics we haven't even looked at that category in many months but I don't think there's anything is Scenic roads is there anything still to do with Scenic roads the only the only thing I keep bringing up every fifth meeting we have you know what I'm going to say that very first like time I started in the plan board there was that there was that tree yeah is that ever going to get planted maybe when I retire from the planning board like it would be great I give you um let me look into that yeah that'd be lovely I'm at a point where I just want to buy one and plant it myself T just so that I feel like something I voted for actually happened yep um okay e economic impact tool um so we what we just we were talking we have time tonight from our last point we were talking to Framingham State on that um um The Merc um actually I was at the Merc conference um a couple weeks ago I was a panelist there um and I think I joined the Merc board to tell you the truth um however I haven't been to a meeting yet uh or I was asked to join the meric board but I have not been sworn in yet please don't quote me on that uh and uh but we were trying to work with Framingham State with Merc um and when I say Merc Merc is their economical economic impact um study um I would say um group um and so I think uh last we were having conversations and last time I talked to the professors over there we were talking about how to move that forward if there was a way to have a tool to have their students kind of jump into this whole economic impact analysis study um to kind of take a look at it so that's where we kind of left off and obviously things got fairly busy um with zoning and other items but uh it's a great question DEA yeah there uh yeah let's start there really serious what I can Google it yeah but no off the top of my head I I cannot I cannot state so glad this is on camera okay um and then finally the parking memo which was really just about looking at the size of parking spaces and again it's a little tweak in the in the bylaws is is our 9 by2 parking space which is on the larger side of parking spaces doesn't really fit the times right um or should it be should it be reduced so it doesn't keep coming up on projects um and yeah and how we feel about that so um we just haven't we haven't gotten around to having that discussion um but something we might start addressing once you know through MBTA and you know once it just people feel like feels like there's an opening I guess um Peter is there any of these updates um administrative updates that are you know I really don't have none I think I I can tell you you know um we're still working with whittamore Estates um I was following up with them yesterday today 100 Chestnut Street they are um they're putting siding on the building we were up there I was up there the other day looking at colors everything looks good it's matching everything I think there could be a couple things they're running into they're going to have to shift a couple trees around just from a gr standpoint um however they're going to come in and and and talk to us I I know they email me about kind of getting the right placement for the bus stop I know they want to do that this summer before kids go back to school so but but construction seems to be kind of plugging along and they've kind of hit their stride so I think we'll see um we'll see that kind of move forward fairly quickly um windows are in they're starting to kind of put the balcony kind of the kind of the um what's the right word here um kind of the details on yeah kind of the details the exterior balconies um and then obviously the siding will go in so um they're they're working pretty hard up there um yeah I was up with Peter one of those really hot days and I went up there we we didn't even make it all around the building but we took a little look they went to show like the that the siding colors were on site and and that kind of thing but yeah it was pretty it was pretty steamy to be outside but um uh uh yeah no it's a good site I've been say I've been I I I can tell you right now um based on development the mcdows Roy and to McDonald have been great to work with um very professional um lines of communication are open um and so I think you know we can feel fairly positive about that project uh 501 Pawn Street I know um hopefully they're going to pull uh ticket I mean excuse me uh Foundation permit uh soon we're still in contact with them um moving forward um Starbucks um still crank you know they're still doing the inside uh they're doing the building the build out on the inside um right now I know our um culture council is working on the mural with our with with folks and so that is moving along how how is that moving along um wasn't Starbucks involved in that Starbucks was involved Starbucks is is very much so involved um we are I think the last there was contract going back and forth with an artist uh between the town Starbucks and I think we're iring out a few details okay so Starbucks overall is is okay with doing a mural there yes Starbucks is still okay um and the artist is someone they chose or the town proposed nope it's something to through the culture Council okay that's great I I think the big um problem right now and I I have to go back to it because they got a a memo or something from it from the cultural Council and what that didn't just go to me but I think I went out to others but it was about kind of the cost of such things like the cost of paying for the mural and how to you know how do we do those things how do we pay for them like in the future that's the 500 we forward that to the rest of the board yeah I have to I have to I have to I I want to say I got it like 10 days ago or something and I just haven't been able to um one of the takeaways I have had just working you know talking to you know kind of working in town hall is that um it hasn't been as easy it hasn't been to get grants and all that yes yeah um contractually following just Mast day law working from a contractual standpoint um approaching artists getting going getting through the minutia really has been um has has presented many hurdles you know so I think uh I'm not equipped to talk about it all tonight um um but um like I said we may want we may want to make time for that discussion because I think I we all have different views of that project I think there's some positive feedback in the community on the concept of amural there's obviously challenges with it I think one of the themes I've picked up on on this board that we haven't really discussed is the challenges of that particular project and so I think we would benefit from a deep dive maybe in a uh Retreat concept conversation um because I for one viewed that as a an exciting shift in our thinking um but I can also see that there's complexities to it that maybe cross jurisdictional paths of different entities in town yes that we may want to talk through in a more Retreat fashion um just something open to the public course can we also maybe um like we got just so many applications but we had a practice of we met with coner commission we met the superintendent we met with the fire department um to maybe the cultural Council right because I I think in general we've received positive feedback of having that part of decisions and we know that we aren't the people to implement it so if they say here's some things that could make it better or please never do that again at least we know right and the why because if it is it a capacity to get grants do we just lack the experience as a town in getting art grants is it just Logistics of the working between a private developer and the public because that can be difficult as you know with CPC there's limits on how you can use money for a private projects public money for private projects so is it is it a legal constraint like it's not really I think it's everything to tell you the truth I think it's it's a it's it's what you're what you're talking about is hitting on many different topics it's working with a private right it's timing you know it is um legally contractually um applying state law um applying Town funds right um responsibility regarding the mural um what if what if something happens to it in the future um you know from a from a if it is defaced from that standpoint yeah you know who owns it I will say when we made the decision we had legal counsel input on the and the conversation was there so it's not like we made it uninformed right so I think it's the kind of thing where again I think we would benefit from a retreat on that project where we can almost like regroup like what did we do how do we make our decision what can we learn from this what are the different challenges and elements for this kind of thing in the future so that we don't just outright say we're never going to do it again let's figure out what the issues are I think like you know Kate mentioned it maybe just a larger as we kind of um go through the summer and then and and then you know hit the fall again be talking about you know starting to make it starting to make a list and that we all we have some of these lists you know started already about um you know who do we want to talk to like like you said we've talked to these various entities various committees you know what's our list for this year what are the top five groups that we would really like to talk to this year and some of them are very immediate for our understanding of of those type of things and then also um a list list of potential little bylaws the parking the the Adu you know things that we had intended to get back to but you know they just haven't risen to the top again right so to to keep track of those we do that obviously in this list but there there's always another list we can keep um so okay the other thing about Starbucks is I was wondering about the um the screening and stuff that we did approve is that um it's all working you know I've been walking down there they have that there going to follow through with it as okay I haven't I haven't been down there in a couple days I haven't been down there in a couple days but I know they're still working on the site they're still doing a lot of stuff yeah I can tell things are still obviously uh still in action I just and then 12 Pond Street um 12 Pon Street's going well I've I've had kind of back and forth with with the developer regarding those sidewalks and the pockets uh the pocket Parks trying to finish up that Landscaping um bringing the DPW in with that convers ation when I went went out there uh with our engineer um there's a brand new light pole excuse me telephone pole kind of right an obvious place where you would put the sidewalk which is was place there so we have an idea to go around it and so I think we're just trying to work through that process but um obviously it's still on the radar and and the developer knows um that you know it's it's his priority to to finish that that that streetscape um any questions or other comments about things under planning office updates for anybody I guess it might go under um the 9B but it might be here because I I'm hearing people talking about other 40b projects and I guess it's just sort of if we're on the planning board I'd like to know what the public knows or at least to be able to respond and I right now I would say I don't know but I don't know anything do you I don't I I know two 40b projects one is at 10 to 60 Main Street and one is at 61 wav street so at one point they were we said there was a potential one on Pawn Street so somebody's had conversations right so no one has contacted me I know the piece of a land and uh a company's has contacted our conservation office but no one has contacted me um regarding that piece of property um regarding 37 James Road I know the address um I just have not been contacted about that property so there is potential one like if someone asks because it's like there's potential still on Pawn Street and then the fourth potential one we don't know anything about I guess the only 40b that I know of excuse me I know of what 40b it's going to be Habitat for Humanity on Main Street which is that one lot um vacant lot that that that will'll have to go through that will go through a 4 Tob process uh but that is a Habitat for Humanity piece of prop property um which I know they they need to go through that 40b process for that's probably the four people are talking about but I don't know what people are I don't know what rumors are being spread I don't know what rumors are out there um but people I mean I'm around people ask so I I'm trying to get the best information that probably that so that would be probably the four then that people are hearing about going to be a it's going to be a one lot 40b um at across Main Street um and that's going to be done by Habitat for Humanity um and uh and that's that it will go through a 40b process because there's there's some legal uh case history on that property regarding the zoning board of appeals and a variance that was uh rejected back in 200 I want to say 2008 2000 2000 excuse me 2006 2008 time frame um that lot was known as the Galan lot um and they applied for a variance to make a buildable lot it was denied uh twice and then upheld once um actually was it was denied three times by the zon Bo of appeals it was remanded twice by the superior court and then it was upheld the last time by the superior court so there's a file in my office about this thick about that property so to move forward through that variance in the case law that's on that property um they're going to go through a one LW 40b process all right so um anything else under that otherwise we'll go to that new applications Sal tower project yeah this is Sal tower project that uh 24 Tower Road is a um actually at the end of 24 Tower Road here there is abandoned water tank um and it looks like um the town allowed I believe it is um AT&T um back in the early late 990s in 99 or 200 2001 time frame to install a uh monop pole that goes up through the abandoned water tank um and so there is two carriers on this water tank and they are looking to upgrade the uh existing equipment on the monopole um and that will be I believe Verizon um that will be coming in here uh and just looking to do that and didn't you didn't you say they is that the one you told me asked to be on the July 25th of correct they applied and then due to vacation and summer schedules uh they applied to go they they requested to go to the July 25th uh planning board meeting any questions on that okay so um then we just wanted to have a up coming to upcoming meetings we wanted to have a discussion about upcoming meetings and when people might be out so for the July 11th meeting correct me if I'm wrong Peter but right now right now we have no applications no public hearings we don't we don't have agenda items for that meeting at this time I think I'm going to be out of town I like very like will be out of town that's when we have to go to Baltimore um so we're wondering I'm also wondering about you guys' schedules is everyone in town so for me both meetings I'm around um I don't get into trouble until maybe end of August when I have to take my kid to college um I I appreciate that we have no projects that are kind of big right now to me that's an opportunity I don't I have no problem canceling the 11th meeting but I I would think that we could benefit from a retreat now that we're sort of quieter at a time that works obviously for for our chair and everyone um and like I said I think it's a great opportunity to sort of throw everything on paper and figure out what are the agenda items that we never have time for like planning related agenda items um so that we can do those things or talk through the Starbucks complexity or whatever it is that we want to do maybe think about last year overall like what were the big projects of last year and what did we learn including Starbucks what are the planning things we want to do if any as a board um things like that so I'm just suggesting if we cancel the 11th that we find another time for a retreat I'm okay if people want to meet for the 11th I I don't think I'll be here and obviously it's been a we've been kind of rotating having a retreat I think having a retreat we'd want our chair there well what about July 25th does anyone think that they'll be uh anyone have plan now to be gone that day or not saying things won't change but I'm good for the July meetings like who's that oh Amanda's being very quiet there you're good for July you said Amanda both meetings sorry guys yes I'm good for the for both July meetings I'm free yeah and I'm I'm good for the for the 25th if we want to put the cell tower obviously first and then going to so there's a couple things one we can keep the meeting on the 11th and without Trisha handle the tower I I think they've already no the applicant the attorney so the attorney representing the applicant is actually on vacation the 11th yeah so he's he's not coming at the 11th yeah yeah and so the only agenda item for the 25th right now is the tower correct and we don't have anything lingering out there being continued either nope this is I mean I I guess my suggestion would be that if we're going to cancel the 11th keep the 25th maybe we can use these couple of weeks I don't know if there's interest in creating like a small little working session I I'm happy to try to do it somebody Gathering kind of whatever items that we might want to have a retreat about um and find a way on the 25th to do those things like if the 25th is just the tower issue maybe that's a meeting where publicly we can create some sort of plan or agenda as to what it what it is that we want to do with our time if we have extra time right now for however long we're going to have extra free time why there's no big projects coming up our way in August and September not that we know of that we know of yet um I'm just saying it looks like an opportunity I know I think do other things so why don't I mean why don't people send those why don't I send out an email that because I have some of these ideas myself um I just to take so that everything doesn't land on Peter's plate that that um that I'll send out an email requesting I'm going to put it in maybe into categories and people can start to fill in the categories and send stuff back to me okay um which should be not not a violation of open meeting law it's just going to be agendas items agenda items and I'll organize it and then when we get yeah when everyone has a chance to respond or when we get close to that date I'll I'll send it back out and we can start to pick and choose where we want to start because obviously it'll I'm sure be or maybe it'll just be a discussion of General where we're where we're going in the meting on the 25th normally our meetings are a couple of hours right so we could have a normal meeting from SE 7:15 to 8:15 that is our Tower Road whatever meeting and then we can have a retreat a separate time frame that's more informal in a retreat session so that we're together for the two and a half hours that we normally are but we actually use our time for the public hearing meeting and for more informal Retreat just get it all done on the 25th okay and use the next few weeks if we're going to take a break use it wisely to create an agenda and maybe do some of our leg work for the agenda like if we can create a retreat agenda by the 11th that we can share for the whole group then that gives the whole group until the 25th to do our research on the agenda items to think about the agenda items to come to The Retreat on the 25th with prepared thoughts I'm just kind of throwing that out there so even if we don't have a meeting on the 11th we use the 11th as a agenda organization day wait but not to just wher yeah but like that's our deadline to figure out what our agenda is for the 25th so that we have plenty of time yeah that makes sense to get ready so you're not getting it the night before here's here's might talk about yep got it because in theory let's say we put on the agenda accessory dwelling units because Peter is going to find that language from the state and we at The Retreat as an example want to talk about it if we know that on the 11th that gives us two weeks to sort of ponder it think about it research it come prepared okay yeah I think it's a good idea anyone want to add to that or no I uh for me it's like as this comprehensive plan is starting to kind of really start to shape up and we hearing so many of the communities kind of sharing the thoughts to me as a planning board we should once we have some shape and form sounds like we're working towards strategies and goals um everything seems great and this one when you have these strategies and fancy words but it's also the implementation that falls shorts many time I would love to see if we can as a group act and work on those special topics that's important to the town coming out of that and it's like take that smaller Milestones versus the 10year plan that comprehensive plan is for me those were will be the topics that I feel like will be worth the time spending as a team versus just coming up with topics at least that's so I can share one idea that happened at my little group the other day that was really interesting to me that stood out which was the idea of like something simple that we can do as a community is picking like five or six locations in town that have a public sphere of some kind where you can beautify put some Landscaping put a little bench put a little thing for people on bikes to stop and rest and that idea was so simple and everyone loved it as a concept do you really need a comprehensive plan to make that happen probably not do we as a board have some concept because of our experience as to where in town that might work we probably have more of a design or development or planning experience to deliver on something like that so there's opportunities for the planning board to do things like that that could be really useful as a resource to the steering committee um where the consultant doesn't live in our town and we as a planning board could do those things fairly easily with you mean making those recommendations oh so presenting it hey here's an idea I'm I don't think we actually have the power to do that because if the what I'm saying is these are things that are being discussed at the steering committee level for ideas we as a planning board could deliver that without zoning changes there's no zoning change that you need to create to make something so simple happen yeah but so but we can we can wait and discuss that during a absolutely I just wanted to use that as an example to respond to deepest point because is we don't need anything it's not necessarily zoning that we have jurisdictional power over it's planning and so there's things we can do as a planning board to support the steering committee that may not even be zoning related it may be more we can tell you Kate and I can share some of the things that are being discussed at the steering committee and the planning board could provide support to the steering committee for those things and okay I guess that's just why I'm not clear but we don't have to discuss it now like I'm not sure what that support is I don't know how what like like an actual like looking at an act don't have money we don't have you know like we could literally look at a map together we the plan board and we could figure out which intersections this could work in because Peter is here he can tell us which areas are public property and we could in theory deliver to the comprehensive plan committee a little thing that says oh you guys have been talking about this idea here's where it might work here we go okay okay I understand what you're saying okay yeah thank you that actually helped clarify it all right so I'll send out a list and and it might be ideas of yeah and and we can just a I guess the point I'm trying to make is let's use the retreat to kind of talk through all these things because there's a lot of opportunity for us as a committee as a planning board to support some of these other things that are happening in town yeah and I think the things that go on that list may be as simple as hey we really should meet with the cultural Council I don't really understand what they do it could be this idea it could be you know those parking spaces are just driving me crazy we've been on our list forever why don't we just deal with it you know it could be things like that right so at least we'll have it all in one place okay so we have a plan so July 11th we are going to cancel that meeting cancel the meeting then we'll meet on the 25th we'll meet on the 25th we have the cell tower and we will use the other remain all the remaining time for an organized retreat okay and we'll let Marcelo know that obviously and hopefully he will hopefully he'll be able to be there as well MH um okay so that's summer schedule as well so now we're at the meeting minutes I had no changes sorry I just need to look at them quick here for I would just say in line 76 um it says Miss Kendall suggested moving to site plan app to site plan approval and the plans to go to the design Review Committee I'm not it seems like I would have just suggested that that it goes to the design Review Committee okay um but I'm not sure what or maybe it was like the draft decision but it's fine just don't remember um the application yeah the application to go to the design Review Committee [Music] just in Reading over the meeting minutes and coming back to the planning board reorganization maybe on the 25th would have a full board again so maybe we would add that to the maybe that we would add that to the agenda or second second agenda item otherwise I have no otherwise I have no changes anyone else no I'll make a motion to approve the Maj 23rd 2024 meetings minutes as suggested by Trisha so as modified as modified okay uh is there a second second and roll call vote Anis I Katherine Jersey I and Trisha Kendall I so those are approved I think then we are at the end of our agenda anyone have anything anything to add I'm going to be probably missing for September 4th meeting okay that week okay okay I can make a motion to adjourn the planning board meeting at 8:58 p.m. and a second second that roll call vote de I Anna teski I Katherine Jersy I Amanda Hayes I and Trisha Kendall I all right great thank you everybody e
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members of the board and attendance president Linda Chavez present vice president Andres kto clerk mfam president member cordin alera president member Andrea Flor Shelton members admin ation interim superintendent Dr almazan thank you marel so we have a quum and this meeting is also being recorded and it's time that we will now do the pledge allegiance please stand please I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all 102 discussion and modification of the agenda the board may change the order of the business including but not limited to an announcement that an agenda item will be considered out of order that consideration of an item has been withdrawn postponed rescheduled or removed from the consent calendar for separate discussion and possible action is there any modifications to the agenda uh Dr alasan um just wanted to make a correction for the board's consideration for items uh 805 8 808 and 809 um the school year should be reflected as 2024 through 2025 not 2023 2024 school year uh Miss gelina would you like to do um thank you the orders of the agenda yes we just I'll just call the different okay good evening U Madame President board members Dr Amison and community members um we offer interpretation services and so if anybody wants to get the help we have them outside at a table and I'm going to [Music] read for [Music] vice president uh PTO are we can we are we still I know that we went to the explanation but I think the question was asked if we could if we go to item 1.02 because the rest items want yeah so on the modification to the agenda what number did you want uh I would like 5.01 to be moved immediately right now after 1.03 okay so did everybody hear that uh we're going to move up uh uh 5.01 uh immediately after 1.03 so um this is for discussion action update on the superintendent search from mcferson and Jacobson Mr Daniel president I'd like to move that um so since that one is after or it's before two I wanted to ask that the remaining fives all be moved between two and three fives between two three okay thank you just write down did you get that yes okay thank you any more modifications to the agenda seeing none uh we'll go ahead with uh Mr Daniel please hello there thank you um we are from McAn and Jacobson The Firm that you folks have selected to in fact assist with your superintendent search and as you see by the initial slide we are also associated with csba your school board's Association what I'd like to do is introduce tell you a little bit about ourselves walk you quickly through the process and then we have some decisions to make tonight as well so starting off um I'm Daniel Morel as one of your Consultants this is probably the eighth search I have done in different parts of the state at this point in time I myself have been a superintendent I've been a state administrator in a school district that was taken into receivership by the state at that time um and I've been superintendent about three different school districts um Urban Rural and suburban school so have that experience my colleague Miss Nicole good evening trustees and staff and community members I'm Nicole Anderson um honored to work with Dr Daniel Moro um as your um other consultant um partnering to do these searches I can't I think I'm losing track now I've done about 14 15 and um continue to do so um we've done several searches um for leaders in the local area um but also all across the state really um super excited to support you I bring um experience um as a practitioner um working um in the kto space as teacher principal um and got snatched out of the superintendent search or superintendent pipeline which I'm thankful for um and actually got to work for AXA the association for administrators um for about four years leading work all across the state and then also partner with csba uh our current uh work actually is doing a lot of personal learning with our leaders across California so our pipeline I'm super excited um for really supporting um you in your next steps of um how you decide who your next superintendent is is very very rich um super excited to bring that to you um and look forward to getting to know you a little bit more around what's going to be the best for you um so just appreciate the opportunity and we'll kind of give you a little bit of um what we're going to be doing with you but look forward to also getting to know you individually to get a sense of what um really you want to have going through this process and I look forward to give you some of the expertise that we bring to this space so super excited about that and we'll share a little bit more about what that looks like okay so nice to meet all of you and good to see you in person yes it's good to see you in person Miss Chavez and I've been on screen several times and we've only seen each other in little boxes so like oh is that you I want to briefly walk you through the process this is in your contract agreement but I think it's important you know the different phases that we're going to be going through and we're in Phase One tonight um it's a five phase process and the first phase is in fact looking at and talking with you tonight about some of the criteria you want in your next superintendent this if you haven't been told already this is the most important decision you as a board will be making and what Nicole and I are excited about is bringing forward to you talent that matches the criteria that you set and that's what we'll be doing uh as we go through the process well establish timeline tonight and yours is a tight one but we're we're ready to work and then we'll talk about advertising venues for tonight or tonight we'll do that phase two we will have stakeholder input meetings where your community members staff would have you tell us a little bit about what they like about the district and what they hope their next superintendent possesses uh we'll put together the application as soon as we've got after tonight and we've got the criteria from you we'll be able to post the advertisement on our uh website and our website we're a national company so it automatically you'll get National exposure um and then we will recruit a little track applicants and we'll be poing with each and every one of the applicants even before we start ding that phase three was uh we'll do the reference checks as I've mentioned already we'll work with you on developing interview questions and the structure for um your interviews base five goes on for a little while here uh you as a board will select the folks you want to interview you will have the opportunity to see we will talk to you about every application that comes in we will as a result of our betting and going through and part you set we going have a list of those we say these folks need to match your criteria the closest and so you may want to consider talking to these folks uh then we'll set up the interviews with you folks um uh if in fact uh you go with the stakeholders type interview panel they will be involved and we'll talk more about that actually as we get closer to the interviews we won't talk about that tonight so much and then you will select who you want as your next superintendent but as I said it doesn't end there what happens in Phase five here is we will work with you and your new superintendent to establish some performance objectives for the first year that um that individuals here because our guarantee our promise is we want the person to be successful for you and for your students um and then that slips into the guarantee which again you as hopefully you saw in the contract and that guarantee is last about two years and this is why we set up the uh goals because that's what you're going to be evaluating your next superintendent against now sometimes there are things have happened some uh it's sometimes it's justu that certain things happen things happen in people's um family lives what have you and they suddenly have to leave sometimes the board decides this isn't a match after you brought the person in and they have to leave and so we will come back and work with you within those first two years to get the ACT superintendent so those are the five phases Nicole you want to add anything to that yeah I know we're going to go through them and you have a short period of time tonight but a couple of things to emphasize is that um when we talk about that criteria and the process will walk you through is super important you follow these phases because this is really what allows you to get to the end and you feel like you have turned over all stones and you've done everything you can to make sure you've selected that person who you feel is the best fit for that criteria so we walk you through this and this is actually going to really be a great way for you to feel like it goes into your goals and objectives process and continue with your own board priorities and goals as well so it's very aligned with the work you're doing as a board but this also includes while we're doing outside um you know recruitment you also have internal candidates who may want to be a part of this process so we want to make sure we also include that that we have a process to allow them to have space to reach out and also we usually ask you know if people are interested internally so we want to make sure that's clear too that it's not always just the external candidates but that whoever fits that criteria whether internal or external that's something we want to make sure you have an opportunity to explore um also with those stakeholder input sessions it is super important you hear from people outside of the board space right and I think it's important for you to hear that so that you have a good sense of what your community wants and always including student voice I always look forward to that space to hear your kids uh but also to hear the community and what they feel so that it really is a collective effort although the community has to know who is the only one who makes this decision it is a school board you have one employee and that's the superintendent so as we go through this process to people get to learn the process and understand what governance is about that you all are going to be making this important decision ision as Dr Dan is here but also we look forward to walking you through this which will create a really effective process for you I think you'll really be pleased um but we need you to follow that process even though it's going to be pretty quick so I just want to add that to it um in terms of the the phases and one point I want us to be very transparent with you is that we do the stakeholder input piece and from that is a report essentially we're just reporting back to you what your stakeholder said we're not necessarily interpreting it and what have you and want you to be ready for that that will you will see it when it's on your board agenda and sometimes what that does is it not only shows the good things you're doing but it shows some of your blemishes so you just need to be prepared for that and if there's anything really alarming we will be with you as a board before we present that so that you're prepared for that particular piece but to me that's really critical and some boards felt like they got uh taking off guard there so all right so let's get into the process that we need to do tonight tonight I wanted to do the overview uh we want and we did that going to look at the Timeline next and you should have a a proposed timeline uh a draft in your packet then we're going to look at what stakeholder groups you would like us to talk to um look at it criteria that you would like and then finally if there's any additions that you want to do to the advertising that's beond your contract that you have it okay and please stop us at any point if you have questions we're not being clear about something okay so let's look at the uh timeline and you should have something that looks like this in your packet it says initial draft and um these are the dates based on what we were told now originally we were told that you would like to have this selection done by August your you can only appoint the new Superintendent at a regularly scheduled board meeting it cannot be a special meeting or any of that it has to be a regularly scheduled board meeting and what that means when I looked at your calendar was August 88th I think is your um uh reg board meeting for August and that's really too soon yes you asked us to raise our hand during the process so I keep hearing quick I keep hearing you know tight one um i' I've never hired a superintendent so for me I want to hear from you all who've hired 14 plus um you know I keep hearing this like a concern and so I also don't know that we've made a decision as a board so I'm a little confused right now when I keep hearing quick one tight one I'm not saying we shouldn't I'm just saying I want to make sure that you know we're hearing from you all right um and and maybe I'm wrong maybe I'm just remembering wrong there's been so much happening so have we decided as a board um I like to M president point of information I just want to make sure to clear to to that way you don't go off of or incorrect information but we as a board adopted a framework and uh set up a three-month process so obviously that was very that was uh very uh aggressive and we acknowledg that it's probably going to take slightly longer but the idea here wasn't to was to make sure that we are aware that it is clear that this board's uh uh this the collective uh decision of the board uh uh was that we would we were going to move sooner rather than later so this idea that we haven't adopted a uh a timeline um that's that's goes against what happened we we adopted okay so do you folks have a timeline I'm hearing but I have we have not seen it what I'm going off is the contract that was signed by the district and it said August and that's based on the on the on the timeline that we adopted so it was the aidea was to set up a three-month uh framework so the point I'm trying to get across is that there is uh a an expression by this board to move sooner uh not to drag this out a year from now for whatever reason we want to make sure that the community knows that there is stability that there is a a leader you know new leadership that's been put in place that at least that's with the perspective I brought process because as we said already this is your most important decision but I'm not sure we've answer I think it was answered you know I kept hearing like a date and like tight cut off and pretty quick I think we're you know in similar and as we go we may decide to extend depending on where we're at but um thank you I think it out and that's the direction you would give to us is if you want to extend that a little further um than what's here you folks need to tell us that typically the process is about four months uh total from start to finish right now we're looking here we are at the end of June if by September 18th 18th whatever your first board meeting is regular board meeting is in September if there your point there that's why we say it's a little tighter we have done tight timelines you know and typically you think of the season for new superintendence is usually January through May however so many things are happening right now in the state of California particularly around the superintendent position this is another time of the year where people are say I'm I'm not going back next year I'm going to go somewhere else so I suspect and particularly because of the size of your District we will we will get some real strong candidates for I'm not worried about that part okay so you've got this timeline here and as I pointed out uh September 12th when I saw is your next uh regular board meeting in September and again as I've said that's when you would announce the person and the contract uh because you got to make public a contract that you negotiate with that individual so starting tonight through September 12th is what uh we have on this proposed timeline now let me walk you through what that looks like over the next several weeks um starting uh to tomorrow uh we will um start to work with our own office in terms of what You' identify the criteria and everything get that into an application and get that posted right away I will be working with your executive assistant who's been tremendously helpful already uh we've talked about jvis knows this as well about getting a a landing spot on your web page so that we can give regular updates as to where we are in the process and so the first one of the first things that we'll have posted there is the application is now available and we'll give the website and all of that for applicants um so between the 2nd of July and the 23rd of July the position would be advertised um in there and um then on the 25th of July we are proposing a second meeting of the board we will need two um additional meetings with you in addition to the date of the actual interviews so we're proposing right now July uh 25th uh it's that would be about a 9 90 minutes with us uh 45 minutes of those in post session 45 minutes of that in Open Session um and that's where we will present to you the stakeholder report um talk about uh interview procedures uh in post session we'll talk a little bit about compensation you won't make that final decision that night but what we need to know from you is kind of the range that you're looking at in terms of the salary because that's one of the questions the applicants will typically ask us and what we usually start and what's kind of known in the profession is the salary that you're paying your current superintendent is typically the stge point so you you need to think about that piece there and then in post section we'll look at what interview questions you want to actually ask uh post the application on 23rd and then uh Nicole and I will then be doing more screening of applicants doing reference checks uh we'll develop what I mentioned earlier a short list of applicants of all the applicants we have those that align best with your ier which you've told us and from what we hear from the stakeholders we will say these are the folks that seem to align posts with that now you may choose to expose some others U that we didn't re recommend that's why we said we talk to you about each and every application there and that's why on August 8th when we have our third meeting that one is if you map out about three to four hours because we'll be looking at the applicants those that we're suggesting you look at closely will have done a video so that you can see them before you interview them and so you get some sense of that and then we just need to decide and on your I may have one long date here but either the 15th 16th or and or 17th or the 22nd 24th 25th uh typically only two of those days to do actual interviews are you talking August now a I'm sorry should have said that yes so those would be the actual and as you look at your calendars and we need this from you tonight we really need you to commit to those dates if you know that there's a wedding in The Works in Sia um a b whatever you missed it say okay I can't be there on that date because all of you need to be present that again this is a critical decision and the person you select needs all of your folks so this is what I'm hearing uh you said July 5th which is a Thursday August 8th uh another uh Thursday and August 15th is everybody later on we'll pull the board and and uh see if we can get all those statements coordinated thank you and that's exactly where I'm going to next and then September 12th will we stay at this calendar will be when you announce who your superintendent is and again at that meeting you need to outline the provisions in the contract publicly that's the timeline we pulled together you folks need to help us make it work um so Mr J as you indicate um if in fact uh the 25th I don't know if that works for you or not I'm good I'm good too everybody else July 25th July 25th yes perfect good deal and then the next one that we I need to talk about is uh forgive me what time July 25th you start your meeting how about 5:30 uh 6:30 that know that's not a regular meeting because we can accommodate 6:30 uh can you uh 6:30 everybody okay 6:30 yeah 6:30 okay thank you then that's important too to get that starting time okay then the next date that we need from you is does August 8 work it's a regular board meeting so it should work for is it yeah so so maybe we want to change that one because that's a long meeting that's a 3 to four hour meeting okay does August 9th work for everybody yep okay August 9th what does that land on a Friday on Friday next day after the board meeting prefer Fridays yeah the day before the 7th uh I can't do that they so can we um Saturday survey for something else that week we could do the 10th the Saturday there goes the weekend third [Music] meeting or we could do Friday 6:30 until 9:30 you said three hours right three to four hours 3 to four hours till 10:30 what is the six look like or the six the sixth Tuesday that works for me me work oh the 6th is National Night Out in case anybody cares okay so what time on the 6th at 6:30 uh Mr fam yes yes okay 6:30 it is National Night Out And I know our community would probably want to be here as well it's a busy night for our community it's National Night Out and it's a busy night for our community and I know that our community would probably want to be present as well how about the fifth no for that third meeting you really don't have time for a public session okay it's mostly all closed because you're talking about okay so we'll keep it looks like the at 6:30 on the 6th of August okay then typically two days for interviews I listed three just to kind of give you uh three in a couple of different weeks but um what works for you in terms of interviews so you mentioned August 15th I guess we have to do it before then so how about uh well that's the option right 15 16 17 23 24 25 yes and we need two yeah and so one of the contextually for the interviews here's what you do have to realize is we don't know how many candidates you're going to have so your decision on August the 6 will determine like do you need two days do you need one so we usually I think most of my searches were two days um because what you want to do is give your opportunity to do your interviews and then you have a deliberation time which you want to give that so the search I just finished um up in fome they had interviews all day on Friday and then Saturday they had like a call back for like two people and then they chose and deliberate that day so that worked for them some will say hey we're going to do half on one day half on another so you want to just kind of leave it open but I want to throw out Saturday for a reason because what that means is it gives you more time it depend on your personal lives for you to have an open space for deliberation because you don't know the end time like I've done 1:30 in the morning and I don't suggest that we do that um but some board you know they had a nighttime one of course but we want to make sure you're not in exhaustion when making an important decision so I suggest you maybe leave it open right now and just block the dates off and then you determine that when you get close closer to your interview time so that we can tell the candidates hey block this off because this all goes into the the advertising space too so once you pick it you want to stick with it but you don't have to like put yourself into like a box just yet because you don't know how many people you're actually gonna decide to interview so that helps so August 8 how about August 10th because they got two days on August 10th at the Saturday we're looking at other you you're going to do your interview part like about a week after you decide who you so the only day I'm not available is the 23rd oh so the 16th and the 17th is a Friday and a Saturday similar like what you're talking we should go with that block it off yeah that works okay and when you get closer you may only need one day so you don't want to put yourself in the box yet but at least you have it blocked off so are we blocking off 6 starting at 6:30 no just do the whole day7 all day for both and then you'll be good I promise I promise make two days of your life but it is important to commit the time it work yeah all right now I'm checking my work yeah okay so so that sets our calendar here all right I don't know if you want to formally do a vote on that or what and I'll go back over the DAT yeah Mo approval of the adopted dates do I have a second second with a um notation that September 12th is my 20th anniversary so I love spending it with you all welcome to the club that all right all in favor raise your hand okay those dates are set thank you thank you okay so the next thing we want to talk about is we've mentioned several times uh we will meet with stakeholder groups in the community now if you look at this timeline that you have in front of you on this my second page that starts with July 8th to the 12th stakeholder meetings um now these meetings occur several ways we will do face to face we will do some virtual ones and we will have again that spot on your web page where folks can um do it uh online on T every time it's the same questions and we do do it in multiple languages and particularly for those when we're face to face and um and or virtual we will need interpreters uh with us on that should we have some folks with that need will you need so three different ways that we do it and we'll s do you folks need to set up which what you be doing with each two that's what we'll be working with B about to um to get that to happen but what we do need to have from you is if you look at that list and start the top with classify sta yes sta these are the ones typically we've met with um and actually there's some additional ones here just as a result of the different searches we had done that different boards have wanted you can reduce this list you add something to what have you um just so if you look at that list and see what works or what suggestions you might have and we do a couple of them couple of different on you may notice there we will want to meet with the leadership of your Teachers Association and we will want to meet with teachers we will want to meet with the leadership of your classified associations understand you have at least two and then with the uh members of those associations as well for administrators will want to meet with District administrators and then your site administrators there's just a dynamic that happens that allows people what we're trying to do is have people feel very comfortable in just giving us responses so that's why we see multiple RS with that there's anything on this list You Want U work president like um so in regards to the partners um is that something that you'll get a list from from the US from uh our current interim superintendent or this is you you we we don't typically work with the superintendent who's in the seat because this is your decision so we so you know because obviously parents in general Community um and then School District Partners is very general I don't know if you get a list of whose you know nonprofit organizations have contracts with them or we just send you names that we think are important right now is nam of like your partners are the specific partner groups that you work with you say really want you to talk to oh yes okay then I'll pres uh vice president um so in yeah I appreciate the fact that you've been clear about how this is a board process and so I think it's important for everybody to understand in the community that that's that's what it is the last time we did it actually my colleagu uh and I were on the board and we actually did it ourselves a very long drawn out process this is a lot more concise and so I appreciate uh but if you were to say that you just start going out there and you can't talk to every single organization that has a contract with Al Rock we we we have a massive list of groups that have contracts with us so right here we would give you the names of some of the ones that stand out and that you would go out there and and work with and talk to rather than go down the list of the you know every check that's been cut by the district it would be all right so that's we also on the web page have it posted there you can respond by um online survey right here so that anybody in the the all Union School District serves can in fact respond you know that opens it up to low context for that also remember that you have an entire Community you would love to hear from everyone um what we consider like really good feedback is about three to five% and of your student population and so what I would suggest is that as you look at the list like Dr Dan said it's very kind of General because these are like you know the basic groups that we like to hear from but what we need from you based on who you think are key voices you want us to hear um we want to hear those and make sure we're not missing them but understand there's going to be a lot of folks who might fit in one category of Life Partners right or community members and we have them all in one space like we don't do it individually but then you'll have something like hey we want to talk to the mayor we want to talk to some key person in your community we'll have a one-on-one conversation with them because we also know the schedule we create may not be conducive for their busy schedule and worst case scenario anyone can take the online survey which is actually what we suggest in in multiple languages of course that you feel your community needs um and to go to like you know as the interim and also your internal staff they may have more familiarity with voices that need to be heard and so we would you know definitely say there's recommendations on groups that are not here that even the board may not all be aware of you do want to ask about you know internal staff hey are we missing someone we may want to hear from um does that make sense yeah okay yeah um so I have a couple um I would say the Family Resource Center Partners that are actually they're the providers that are seeting there I mean I can go down the list but as you're saying really we only have one week to contact these folks and see if they're available and then our um our spark previous parents be because we're in the summer so we don't have a current group but the previous group um and then I know that we have it's someone on here but just want to make sure um our leaders our student leaders we do have a body uh I know Miss Wy and um uh couple of our staffs are are working with them so those are ones that come off iust um I would suggest that uh we include the Santa CL sub Building Trades Council building and trades Council building and trades Council for and the um head of the South Bay libber Council was that the uh the the the of the South labor councilth laoun again tomorrow I meeting scheduled with to set these up thank you um it might be included in the Family Resource Center Partners but I wanted to say the CIS pu Collective um which primarily would be SOS uh Andor Grail um and then um I would suggest the city of San Jose's um Deputy city manager Angel Rios related to the children e master plan that's all I can think of uh something I don't see maybe I'm just missing it is our union leaders um area and maybe I just CA Association leadership I don't see area on there so just making sure a r e a e a a thank you that's under and the teamsters Teamsters as well yeah please thank you I'll send the list as well okay M president that was under your Teachers Association leadership want to make sure we that way because every District yeah and just one clarifying Point some districts do this but you have um like we think about feeder districts into um your surrounding neighboring districts if you want us to you know talk with the neighboring district superintendent or someone who you feel you really collaborate with as a district we also can do that as well it doesn't happen often but we've done it in a few especially you know when you're feeding from elementary to the high school space so we can definitely do that as well um but want to just throw that out there because some do it but but many haven't just so just throwing that out too um there is a group of neighborhood associations that gets together and um I'm um it's just a a large number of them um so District Five yeah do does TR participate in a larger body can you provide the name of the because I know that you guys get together in this larger group we only cover one small part of district 7 so the one that I was referring to includes uh the maper neighborhood association uh the uh Capital goth neighborhood association as well as the um he'll be so so I just met with them today on other things um and can help get you in contact with that cohort yeah now there's a certain reality here also I can't tell you how many times Nicole and I have virtually or face to face sat in a room and nobody shows up that's just the nature of the situation we're used to that sort of things but want to let you know we're not ignoring people sometimes and particularly doing these next couple of months harder for people to get to us get onl that's why we really encourage and ask you to do the same thing is to go online do the survey online top it up wherever you can top it up will there be non-online surveys available like because we're doing this summer it's unfortunate we won't be able to do like paper like paper copies at the school but I like would would people pick it up at a library and fill it out if they didn't have online I'm like asking our colleagues I think most of the time we have not done that but I've had like parent groups who say like hey some families don't have access to the the uh technology so we will adjust based on the need um I've had one moment where I just went and talked to someone and kind of filled it out with that individual um that's what they needed um we also have recommended that you have like the survey like information and like a QR code so that as you're out in the community you can like literally you know share that with people so they can just pull it up on their phone you can text message it out it's just getting the word out and people know how important it is because they're surveyed out like people are tired of surveys it is summertime but people do I think feel invested in knowing their voice is going to be considered by the board and so I think it's important that people do want to be heard um so I think it is important that there is a what I call campaign to really push it out but also recognize it's the summer um and so there's some efforts we can make to um do some hybrid experience if needed um we can be here in person kind of come for the day and you have as many folks can come as possible we'll do whatever we can but it is important like we have to have like your District be a partner in that because we don't know your community so we're not going to be able to advertise in the way that you can um so I think like one District we had I was amazed that um they had more student voice than any other group and the board was just like blown away and it's like you know why because the students one felt like their voices were being heard and they took it upon themselves to make sure their fellow students right like gave input so even though school is out right you still have ways that kids use social media and they use platforms that you could you know literally push that out um we've also said use like your principles for example it's like hey principles they communicate with you know they're getting ready for school to be starting in the next school year so have principes kind of share that in their newsletters so it's just ways that you can do that so you get optimal input um and we'll do whatever we can to support it we need some paper copies like we can make that work um we also do need to clarify the languages you want them in typically most do two languages um I notice your board agenda had three so you can tell us whatever you'd like and then our home office helps us with uh creating that survey and then we'll probably send that over to you to just double check make sure it's translated correctly before we send that out so and working with we've already identifi those languages so we've got that piece under wrap a in time and just the wrap up on the stakeholder P something you should know is number one there are no names attached to any of the the surveys are Anonymous we're taking notes and meetings or on virtually no names are attached the only thing we will redact from um and typically see these on the anonymous um online surveys is when people are using F language racial severe racial type languages we've had this and or if by reading the paragraph it's clear who they're talking about and they talking about a specific employee with them District those are the things we will be that um this isn't meant to shame anybody this is really meant to provide information and the applicants love this report as soon as this comes out we're getting calls on it this and that because it gets them some other insights as well okay so the next one which see how efficient we can be is looking at the Criterion for your superintendent and you have a looks like this um it looks like this what we need to do so potential superintendent and what we need to do I'm going to ask you with the categories at the top which are the major categories that you would like to make sure are covered and then we'll go through with if you selected three maybe four um categories that you want then I'll have you look at the different paragraphs and say that one seems to speak to us strongest in that area Okay so the first thing we need to do is if you just don't go don't get wrapped up down here yet look at the the top pieces B pieces what are the areas that you say yeah we need to make sure this is addess and this goes on the application and this is what the applicants will write to in the application what is the the number that you generally uh land on three three four yeah typically it's five um but I will say it's up to you all and remember once you pick these it's not just what they're applying for in their application they'll write to them your interview question is going to be center around this criteria your goals and objectives should connect back and we create the superintendent evaluation with you if you choose to do that um how you decide who you're going to pick we'll usually in the interview process when you deliberate we'll come back to this criteria so what you pick Now you kind of looking at the long game this is what you really want to see in this next person so this is where we give you examples these are some common ones that we use but you can create your own and tonight even though you may tell us what you want to do we'll still kind of take your feedback maybe craft it a little bit send it back to you before we make it official because it'll show up in the brochure or to show up online so don't feel like tonight we have to like do everything but we need on that so we won't have as much time as we typically have want to make sure we capture what you want to see in the criteria and so we recognize word smithing and all that may not happen tonight but we need to get down these five um that you typically want to see so jumping H so for me I mean obviously all the five but three and four for me very similar and so I think leader though covers more overall includes the management and like and the community so um I would say one two three and five would be my vote yeah I would agree manager is somebody who just does a b and c or whatever we need somebody who's going to be able to move the district beyond what we are and so just simply bringing a manager is not something I'm interested in we need leadership I my number one choice is leadership because of the um the visions and the goals and setting the direction the finance to me is probably the most important at this time I would suggest that we go with what was mentioned I think think it's a great idea one two three and five I mean yeah one two three and five those are the four and you wouldn't have to spend more thank you um just after reviewing them and kind of going back at the higher level i' you know between leadership and manager I think for me there's two words that are missing and it's like strategic and high functioning and so when we go into the descriptions bring that back to us so we into that's what Nicole was talking about a little bit a moment AG that's where we could incorporate that into what you deide number five does say that strategic planning and effective working it's included in five but I'm focused on these five categories I thought we were talking about the five categories so what I'm trying to say is we have these these descriptive words in front of leader and so what I'm trying to say is you can add high functioning or strategic to lift these up right they're they're like you know to me they Encompass some of the more specific things we're talking about so that's suggestion high functioning I'm kind um somewhat concerned about putting high functioning because it's going to make it seem as if we're like somebody who's very high function and is a an amazing leader might say it's kind of awkward that they're having to not that they want a high functioning person in fact if you're going to leader and you're going You're a transformation leader you by the Fall have to be high functioning in order to get things done so I don't know I'm just concerned that it might turn people off those are my thoughts but it's going to be a dup I think it's about the the fact that if if a leader knows what success looks like and has come from a place that is high functioning right then that means that they can demonstrate an exist that has a leader I'm going to go first and then I'm going to let you okay go um if we start doing the Tomato tomorrow thing I'm sure that there there's some um there's some thought that you have put into this many many times as to what words you're going to use and I think that us trying to words Smith it um especially now at this time is is not going to do the best because you guys have already bedded all of the words and Wordsmith everything precisely and if we go one lean one way too much to the right or to the left we could lose potential candidates so to me I'm fine with the way you have the wording so here here notice in the narrative that that was provided like I'm just give example like you didn't like the word manager right so we can like change that heading but if you notice the language I heard fiscal like um you know expertise and responsibility and notice there's some language in there around Finance because that is something we'd be looking at like we're going to vet like hey who has this fiscal you know experience so notice there's like number 13 if you go to D13 you can see language that actually describes more detail so what I'm hearing you say president at this point is that you're kind of I think each of you and Def want to hear each individual share like input on the high level criteria and then what I'm hearing is these words actually are built into the language so that's when I said we'll mirror it back to you so you can have one look at it your homework will be quick once we send it to you so that we can get this out but I feel like your feedback is really helpful for us but we do have the language we've done this numerous times you may have a word or two you don't like you can change that but tonight we really want to hear high level what is it you really want to see in the next superintendent from a high level space and then those words we can definitely add in as you see our first draft we send to you which again it'll be a quick turnaround right that you all have to give us feedback and so I want to make sure we hear everyone's uh voice in terms of what's important to you and so so far we've heard like one two three and five kind of stick out but the language underneath if you look at like the numbers you may see some language in there that really like kind of sticks out yeah and and if we can add one more I think um the this one number 14 touches more on the student achievement which is we are an ala that's what we should be focusing on the most so let's take a look at that right now let's take these one of so the first one that you have and you're right we have gone through these are what we consider some of the best the different searches we have done and and written and Rewritten and wrote these again um so like you see for the first one under Equity leader that's I want to say while equity's been around forever a day that's a fairly new Criterion that's being put onto so that's why you only see one and we pulled together again the best of the best but that's the descriptor we would give the applicants when they're writing to the equity so if you read real quick and see how that works for you I like it first page one thumbs up good move on now under ethical L you have two three and four what you can do here is one of those speak L to you or one of them really get it but there's elements from the other two that you would want P forward so um I prefer a combination of like four and three um I like this the dares to do the right thing for students I like that and three but really like the the the overall four and I think work ethic and ethical are different things than I'm seeing that in number two we've gotten what we heard is that under ethical leader we're I work on and I really like the humility piece in three too which one you've got humility and three I think the on number three the last sentence the leader must demonstrate the knowledge and the courage to promote the policies the budget and the instructional practices and must be student centered leadership folks no I I like five and eight something that brings both of those together I think they're putting it right out the bat and accountable and like really like lays it out and says hey you're not gonna pass the buck you're blame it on somebody else yeah that's why you're Po and I I like eight uh you know as elected representatives of PE you know the people right uh you know we're we're expected to in a sense represent the consensus of the community and so it's important that the next superintendent uh is someone who's in line with the general Sentiments of Alan rotten for president yes just uh for me also um along with those a transparent leader number nine the transparency piece um is key I do like under the leadership that um who will recruit Talent provide mentorship um I think under 10 that we not only have to ensure that um we have the talent but to pass that knowledge on to others so that if there is a transition it's a smoother transition and so that they can um make make the team stronger y so I think um the superintendent um and I've sort of seen this in different places as sort of school leadership is evolved I think Communicator is clearly I mean that is it's about you know developing narratives and messages and being able to convey that um again credibly and ethically on there's all that thing but I think communication is is very very critical can I I sorry trusty uh I think elements of collaborator you this is a K8 District so you know we our students feed into the local high you know the high school district and so we need a superintendent who who has uh you know who can forge that working relationship with the high school district and a team te Builder on the same number a team Builder who will bring people together establishing trusting transparent inclusive and respectful relationships with the board anyway yeah moving on we moving on under manager while that wasn't one that you picked I didn't hear this responsible manager incorporate that into the leadership p and I think what I mentioned is you know management is under leadership for me so that we would include you know some of those under that um category one thing that I would recommend and you can decide what you'd like but if you want to call out skills that you want to see it's it should be something you call out and not kind of blended into another criteria so when I think of management right it's not the only thing you want but operational management actually is a skill that that's when you talk about like all of the aspects of running a district right and so management is important while leadership is also important so if you want those skills it's sometimes okay to call it out so that as we're creating questions right as we're doing our recruitment it really guides like specific things you want us to like ask let's call it up so I'd recommend it yeah yeah no exactly as you said it I think you're emphas what you want to see I guess but 13 already falls under fisc fiscally responsible manager yeah and that could be the Criterion itself yeah you can say operational manager or phally responsible you like 13 language in itself yes okay it covers all basis yeah based on the landscape of public education this one is probably going to show up for most boards across the state right now so I think it is an important time to to ask those question yeah and back to the point of steering away from managers in the discipline there's a clear distinction the manager is a bureaucrat that makes the trains run on top but the leader is the one that starts setting the stage for the shifts that they're going to have to take systematically in order to address the big changes that if you can make the trains run on time every day right now under the circumstan you have some point in time that's not going to work if you just keep on doing the same thing you're going to run into a system that's not working for a changing world around you um don't want to have somebody say well you want a manager I can I can count the beans I shouldn't okay so let's look at educational leader and you've got two paragraphs to pick and choose from W some advocacy I like 14 I think that uh at least in my perspective we are a district that needs to um move ahead with the particular uh uh student population highly mobile very low income facing extreme challenges as opposed to the people around us immediately even to the folks in the South and to the north of us twice the amount of wealth that us than us it puts in a very unique situation I think individuals are going to app need to be made aware of that that the way they're not coming in thinking I'm going to Sil Valley there's going to be money everywhere that's not the case you're you're addressing higher needs with less resources work your magic I think um 14 also encompasses everything because um it also covers the let me read it the instruction leader must have demonstrated how he or she has implemented strategies to close achievement opportunity and access gaps between Target student groups including cultural revent instructions as well as social emotional learning because we have dualy as well that's why that covers that and the leader must have successful experience administering special education services and academic support programs to sure that all students have successful learning experiences especially with the budget 40% of it is special EDS and so we we need somebody who who has some kind of um experience in in in that as well as how to handle all the all the day-to-day funding for that for those special programs 14 yeah mhm now you'll notice on the last page there's a list of 10 preferred criteria sometimes not always Bo one important we this person better have a teaching credential better have this or that so there's some some suggestions here I don't know if you want to list any all any 10 is too many on any one application you only want a couple of them but um again are there any of those that you just want to list I want uh definitely one two and nine I think that uh yeah should have an administrative credential I think individuals should have classroom experience if they're leading a a a school district and uh and then obviously a very diverse District that we have with a lot of bilingual students should be some experience in that how many do you typically put three to four you start narrowing down if you got too many yeah and I always recom just based on what I've seen is you make almost all of them preferences um and I give an example is even having like um like there is no requirement right to be a superintendent when I think about like what we look at for our particular administrators and teachers you name it so even that we call them non-traditional folks right and there are folks who have been superintendents who had a non-traditional path um where they went through teaching and maybe being a counselor or they came from the business world so they are very rare but there are times you have superintendents who um candidates who actually are non-traditional so that's when we often say try not to put people in a box um when we think about the uh recommend or the requirements versus preferences um but definitely bilingual is very common um having teaching experience right those are things you prefer having leadership experience one criteria we look for is often having um cabinet level experience right that's sometimes we say is preferred number six so those are all things that we usually look for when we're scanning resumés um because we've had some who've applied and they've been like a substitute teacher and we're like yeah they get screened out pretty quickly but if you're not explicit those are things that can become um problematic you notice this category is listed as preferred criteria Nicole was just talking about you start to limit yourself and you say to be quiet and I think once you do put six it you're on a certain level once you get to the administrative experience because you just don't start going directly to it so it does show that it's should be at a certain level I'm looking at U three and um and I didn't catch numbers did you mention three on this it so I'm looking at three and 10 um you know for me experience matters at the superintendent so for me highlighting that you know is important now I know the elementary school level is kind of you know putting in the Box however there's very you know clear indicators of like our third graders were not testing like compared to somebody that would be in high school um so for me it would be important that this person who's our next superintendent has experience at this Elementary School level and that's a prefer so PR right right right preferred and so if we can add that you know we can come I'm thinking that we can combine those two somehow um yeah to include that the only question I put on number three within the California school system because some people outside of California say chance yeah let's take that off I'm open yeah but I think because you said like C experience and things like that you are talking about you better have some school experience upper level School experience no that's the point I was going to make that it might uh keep people like let's say somebody's from New Jersey or some that they doing some amazing work in a in a similar District that have similar needs as ours and we might want to just hear them out see if moneck yeah I and I love the feedback that you gave because just by eliminating California but you know the other piece of experience is important look like one two eight or one two nine and 10 there six also six yeah I did six One n and 10 okay I me and am I like the Masters or above is that's common sense right no that's not necessary no then I would probably required and I think that's what you have to remember when you require something like that or you can and I would let me back up even preferring that is great but you have some of most have their masters at least usually the doctorate is where you get kind of so same preferred is is fine but just keep in mind that you may have some folks who come through who actually don't have all of those degrees you're right um it's very rare and I mean at the end of the day we're going to choose the top so I think it's good to have a pool more important is and I'm G just read how this could sound we're going to massage a little bit of this but like successful experience as a teacher leader at the classroom site and District level now you just think about all the people who can fit in that space and then also like where you want to see more specifics that's where your five criteria come in right success in those spaces the key word is successful experience right by lingual um I'm I'm assuming bilingual you mentioned Spanish is that correct did we say the language or we just said bilingual we uh bilingual is I think is leaves it brought to somebody who speaks too Lang might be might means okay all right so we can actually maybe put in criter in uh parentheses you know what languages are are most common in your District just because when we ask about being bilingual if they say a language that's really not like does that help or does it not and remember Latin or something like that yeah well and not being bilingual is okay also because most don't always fit those boxes but how they actually can uh really communicate um and connect to the community is important there's a lot of great candidates who are not bilingual but can do so so it's all very helpful um I'd like to go back to the um number five I this is an educational institution and if somebody bacle the way through and figured out how to make it happen good for them but this should be a minimum level of of higher education credentials that you're bringing to the table uh that you demonstrated that you trained uh and that um so so I I would I would encourage us to put that in U not as a requirement but as something preferred because most people who do have credential will have a m and they don't well we already have it they we prefer our credentials so it'll be covered either way but he just sends a messages and educational institution we expect people have Val education that have pursued themselves what I personally like about that is that they have a desire for continuous learning that's what you really want somebody not walk in say I know all that yeah and like said we can massage some of the language to make it really fit when you see the the dra you'll be able to say hey this works or this doesn't um so I think I feel like we okay all right okay so the last piece is and you'll notice in the U it's it's suggested in the contract but it's also the proposal which you ini got that you will get four weeks of advertising which is the go joint are the two go you automatically are on our website which gives you National coverage the question becomes do you want a digal coverage and what I caution you about is only because come back to the timeline because of the timeline we're working in by the time we get these up it's going to be close to the closing of the position if not already but sometimes people look at like AA as one particular area education week um Ed Cal your experience okay in your experience have you you get a good pool based on what you assuming because that's what you're recommending we have yes so I'm comfortable with that all of the ones you just mentioned I would like those are the ones that I had written down that I would like it to all appear in each one of those I mentioned you want that also yes because that's the one for superintendent yes yes and what I let you know is now you're talking about an additional ones and that's additional cost yes $49 for 30 days yes how about local newspapers or media we do put things on social media as well as a company have so and it's interesting L LinkedIn um tend to draw I'm thinking of our like local newspapers can do that yes but again C I don't addition cost it cost the last time we advertised it cost a big chunk of money I highly doubt that a superintendent is going to be looking at local mer yeah get a job they're probably going to go to their trade paper as well as the Ed join and those and you have your own website as well so I think um most superintendents know to look in AXA at the back of the newsletter and yeah that that's typically how it's always been read when does that newsletter come out oh good perfect I just concerned if it was once a month you won't see next and online too yeah and I think we should be very strategic and specific because those are the ones that we're targeting yeah so I don't see going with local papers getting uh benefiting because of the cost and your Maj website our Mac andj website gets thousands of hits daily so that's also a space and then you have too so a lot of times we are we're the recruiters right we have the relationships we also have that space so and like you said we can forward out to social media because you never know it might be that person that's looking at Sam mer use great what our company does is they put a BL out to everybody who's ever applied through us as well so you know they're getting the message and sometimes even though we're sending it to somebody who's already in a position where they're comfortable they say oh you know this might be good and I'll name one of their friends and said we tend to know lot of people around so we as well you need us to do we need to take action to adopt all the all the do I have a motion to adopt yes motion to adopt second okay and adver U motion to adopt the criteria and the advertisement we have a second all those in favor raise your hands question uh sorry any of the increased costs are inside the existing contract uh no that's going to be it says gives you a price and then not uh not to exceed or actually you get another not to exceed a certain amount it goes in there and part of what you pay is like our mileage and things like that some point it may go beyond that will you know to that so you mentioned the five entities was there another one I missed no okay that's good thank you board president yes uh and before we move on if we can have public comment on this item oh sorry I interrupted the vote too yeah we were no we already voted everybody raise your hands did you not raise your hand I rais my hand to ask a question because it went so the vote is because you raised your hand it's 5 Z we went for it and so um the public comment we will do after they're done so okay um is there any more questions great in short amount of time know people sitting in the audience and saying how much for this but this was this is the work we have to do next couple of meetings as I said uh our second meeting with you 45 minutes in close session 45 minutes and public session the third meeting is going to be the longest and I strongly encourage you that's we should do the only thing on your agenda okay because we're talking three to hours okay so thank you everyone thank you no the board president so just a thank you everyone and thank the community I just want to put a plugin for the stakeholder input I see a lot of amazing faces and know there's some great voices and so when we do have our input session we look forward to seeing you and hearing from you I see a lot of like yeah so hopefully yeah this is one of your H so but thank you for your patience and allowing us to work with the board on something very important but we look forward to hearing the voices and so thank you all really appreciate it thank you staff for the patience and all the process and so thanks so much thank you thank you uh so now I'm just going to go to uh the public members who wish to address the board on the matters on the agenda not on the agenda wait a second let me finish okay thank you um so we already said that earlier because this has been going on so long I just want to uh wanted to reiterate that but if we have public comment on um our presentation from the audience please uh come to the mic and if not we'll move forward okay go ahead I just want to caution us because we voted before public comment and as one of of the voting members on this dis I just want to just say that I want to hear my the public before the votes are moving forward so that would be yes thank my request and reiteration so uh we moved up item uh 501 and and I think we were asked to move up and 503 504 and 505 and 506 so um going on to you want to take two did you do two no we're gonna let me finish we're going to do 502 right now so I'm going to read out 502 and you want to say something yes so when the orders of the day were passed I asked for 502 to 506 to be moved between two and three vice president kto asked for 501 to be before two you you asked for 502 through six to be moved between two and three so next up would be two yes I just did two and it it it was done earlier and so it was done earlier but what I do want is do I did uh I get a motion to accept the agenda that one I need to get now so do I have a motion to accept the agenda with all the changes that we made yes we've already done yes move to adop the agenda second okay all those in favor to accept the agenda raise your hand okay thank you moving on to the next one one which is um what uh truste Andrea Flores Shelton asked for do you want to read it or do you want me to read it uh approve to change the December organization meeting date from December 12th 2024 to December 19 2024 approval second okay we have a motion in a second and now I'm going to ask for public comment uh is there any public comment seeing none we're going to move to trustee comment seeing none uh we'll take a vote all in favor to moving it to is okay it's four 5 to Zer uh motion passes 53 approve approve resol wait let me just finish saying it and then 503 approve resolution number 6923 24 proclaiming June 24th pride month celebration and resolution this was brought by truste Andrea Flor Shelton and I will now have her read it thank you President Chavez um I'm very excited that amongst the many resolutions that we pass here and we do a lot of very important um resolutions that really reflect our community and lift up um our specific um values and choices and um in our diverse community and today I'd like to read out the first pride month celebration resolution um that I'm asking for my colleague support on today so if I may um read it out board president whereas lesby and gay bisexual transgender queer interex asexual plus pride month is celebrated each year in the month of June to honor the 1969 Stonewall Uprising in Manhattan and whereas alumrock Union School District recognizes years of struggle for freedom and civil rights by lgbtq people and their contribution to the rich history of collective action championing equality for all people and whereas current and former presidents of the United States have officially declar June an lgbtq pride month and whereas lgbtq history safety Health well-being and academic success are intersectional issues impacting arusd students and families and whereas arusd stands for inclusion and affirmation by working to honor all students staff members and families who identify as lgbtq fostering a welcoming School climate where they can live their authentic lives and be treated with dignity and respect and whereas all students deserve to feel safe and welcome in their schools to be known by their preferred name gender identity and story and to see themselves represented in the curricula and whereas the availability and the utility of lgbtq related School resources and supports promote a positive learning experience positively affects students academic success and mental health such as Community Schools wellness centers restorative practices and positive behavior intervention supports and whereas arusd supports schools in implementing history and social studies curricula that highlight the contributions of members of the LGBT community and allow students to see themselves accurately reflected as prescribed by the fair Education Act Senate Bill 48 which was signed into law on July July 14th 2011 and whereas California state law addresses discrimination harassment intimidation and bullying towards lgbtq Youth and whereas arusd celebrates this Rich history acknowledging the contributions of lgbtq plus individuals have made and continued to to make to strengthen the fabric of American society and promise and its promise of equal rights for all now therefore be be it resolved the arusd recognizes and honors June as national lgbtq pride month and remains committed to inspire Equity create alliances celebrate diversity and establish safe environments in our schools and communities throughout the county and that alen rock Union School District Board of Trustees does hereby Proclaim June 24th as lgbtq pride month and I very much thank you for your support and getting this on the agenda today and I want to give my gratitude um to the indim superintendent and her staff particularly Katie Wyatt um who is our fabulous ethnic studies um coordinator who helped draft this and again thank you for your support I move approval okay um can we have public comment good evening Sandra AA um I am the area president but I'm coming tonight as a parent um I don't know if many of you know this but my youngest child is transgender and growing up in a strict Italian Catholic non-denominational Christian home that was something that was not part of our upbringing and if it wasn't for the school system my son would have been lost his freshman year of high school he tried to commit suicide and so back in October I went before the San Jose City Council and I asked for resolution there as well Educators nowadays are more than just teaching the basic ways of curricula we're also teaching about how to become an adult how to treat treat each other and how to live and so bringing forth this resolution tells all of our students that they all matter and that we all come from different backgrounds we all come from different beliefs we all come from different places nobody is trying to indoctrinate the children I mean like I said I came from a very religious upbringing it was just who he was and it was through S safe spaces in schools and safe spaces here in San Jose that he was able to find his way and make himself who he is today so I want to thank you for bringing this forward to the board students can start questioning as I mean you've seen the one on TV who was four or five years old you know my son started questioning in fifth grade and it was nothing that was taught in school it was who he was and to be his genuine self was something that he desired to be so thank you for bringing this forward and seeing all of our students and all of the community here in alamro uh good evening to all my name Miss Gia quo I'm a parent and proud Community member of the alrock school district today I'm here to show my support of proclaiming June 20 24th pride month celebration and urge you all to vote in favor of the resolution as well I ask that you leave aside all of your personal interests beliefs and make a vote based on what our alamro students need which is acceptance equality acknowledgement and respect as you vote today remember you are all you were all elected to represent our district and not your own personal preferences or beliefs thank you good evening members of the board my name is daa Gonzalez I am a proud me Community member for of activos and and also a proud mother sister cousin and family and friend of many of our um communities that are LGT Q Plus community and I am just here to thank you um board member Andrea L Shelton for bringing a resolution that needed to pass years ago to secure that safety our kids research have shown that our kids and our youth are not feeling accept that they have a highly rate of suicide however we have in our hands the opportunity to change that because when we give them a welcoming loving and acceptance home school and spaces those rates come down you have the opportunity here not only to save lives but to tell all of our kids and youth that they are L and they're accepted just the way they are so I am here to ask you to set your preference lives aside your religious beliefs and do what what parents and youth are asking to do who you represent accept and this resolution thank you I am s placenia from Pon Hills High School I am your reminder that voting against resolution 69 to 23 2324 means voting against the inclusivity and the safety of all children yes the resolution focuses on how the LGBT students are seen in the eyes of the school districts but they are still children adolescence and so on if you were to ever say to yourself or when you ramp for the position of power that you're in now that you want to ensure all the kids in your neighborhood are seen and understood that includes the ones who like the same sex of themselves and the ones who know they weren't meant to be the agenda that they were given saying one thing and doing the other is hypocrisy and no one trusts a hypocrite religious religious and personal beliefs are one thing but just how you want people to not just understand how you feel you want them to respect it and be given a chance so does this community so I beg you to ensure the safety of the lgbtqia plus Community say their name say it with pride and comfort because they exist and deserve their basic human rights thank you hello my name is Maria alejandrez I'm a former a D student I am a part of henus activo and activos and we as a group urge you to the board to vote in favor of the resolution why so youth feel more supported and seen in their school and community and so students aren't ignorant to the idea and also I'd like to ask you the board to set aside all personal religious opinions and to take into consideration the lives of the youth that have to deal with the the discrimination and bullying at school due to the lack of awareness of others school is supposed to be a safe and educational place um and thank you for listen hi my name is Isabella Espinoza um I'm also a former arusd student and I'm a part of HOV activos and I would just want to say it would be honestly amazing if you could pass this rule this guideline it would be great because as me as a student I can tell you that we are more concerned about ourselves than we are about school and so when we feel we are not accepted we often forget about school and we struggle because we feel that we need to put on this role and we put more attention into that instead of actually studies and what that leads to is that when we actually start showing ourselves we get bullied and we we often get into things that we are not supposed to gangs drugs even Suicidal Thoughts so it would be great if this rule could be passed because it would help many students thank you hello everyone my name is Veron and I am an AR USC mom and also part of EMP and I am here also to thank you all for taking this Brave and courage to pass uh something so amazing right as you heard my daughter um this is something that we continue to talk about that continues to happen in schools right the homophobic the the scaredness from parents this quote unquote indoctrination it is not an IND ation it is an acceptance that we respect and fully love our children the way they are nobody's indoctrinating anyone we are just loving them and we are just accepting them and the more that as adults we can do that the more our children can show that kindness and compassion in our schools and as you heard earlier from our beautiful um you it is it is time and it is time not just to keep it on paper right we have ethnic studies now let's continue to also wear it within us as board members being able to speak on this matter as somebody that you support and we'll continue to support this in our school districts outside in Partnerships as well as within our children and our teachers thank you good evening both board members my name is UN Ramon I am a student I student also qu seil I am thankful that this resolution has been brought forward to the board I urge you to vote in favor of the resolution I'm honestly really surprised that this hasn't been proposed before it hasn't been passed as we have as societ we have been able to guess we've progressed a lot more and I urge you to leave all your personal beliefs personal interests or religious beliefs aside once you're as you're voting for this um you were chosen to be part of the board to protect and provide a loving accepting and educational environment for all of our students and passing this resolution will help a lot a lot of the student self-esteem because as we're youth we're growing we're being put in different situations and we're trying to learn who we are as a person and how are we supposed to focus on our educational studies if we constantly feel criticized by our peers our teachers it just makes without knowing that we're being accepted then it just makes our environment our educational environment a lot more um intimidating and once again as you have heard from some of the other people have given public comment when people don't feel accepted when youth don't feel accepted suicide rates tend to rise a lot so this is not only making sure that our students are having a loving loving caring and accepting environment it's also to show to let them know that school that your educational environment isn't a place that's going to criticize you it's a place that's going to support you and grow to be the person you want to be in the future thank you so we're going to take one more because it's going to be 20 minutes of the public speaking go ahead um hi my name is AB fernandz I'm here in honor with hovak and I'm here before all of us to stand up for those who feel like they don't have a voice to stand up for themselves because people don't realize what kind of people they are in front of and I can guarantee you all us heness who are speaking today are nervous why are we nervous because we don't know who you are we're scared that you're not going to pass things that support us having you not realize what we need and what people want is very scary we don't know what to expect we're going into a district maybe for the first time they're going into high school They Don't Know What To Expect and they're scared because they don't know who you are and they fear that you will do things like this to them they don't know how to feel and it's very concerning to know that young people are having these thoughts and oppression towards them that should not be happening and unfortunately it's reality and it's absolutely unacceptable so I'm coming here to stand up for those who cannot speak for themselves so please consider passing this to help and support all those who have struggled thank you okay thank you um so when Miss Andrea excuse me trusty Andrea Flor Shon uh first asked me to put this on the um agenda I agreed um and so even though my beliefs are one thing and her beliefs are another and everybody else's that's still going to be be respected I'm I still put it on the agenda uh whether it's my belief or not but I I do want to say that um I I'm first going to get give the other trustees a chance to talk and then I'll finish uh go ahead uh truste Corina thank you board president and I want to thank the community for coming out and sharing your thoughts Ence especially the youth um I remember when I first spoke up on the mic and I'll never forget that um but that's you know I I I look forward to hearing more from you all and uh coming back out to you know your spaces and your meetings and um take that time you know we we're not bled at 20 minutes so I look forward to do to doing that and I want to thank uh trusty Flor Shelton for bringing this forward definitely long past to we should have done this many years ago so thank you for bringing it Forward um you know for me the safety and the welcoming of our all of our students regardless um of any uh you know way they think they feel they you know speak um they act whatever it is you know all of our students get to be welcome and this highlights that and so I look forward to um uh supporting it um and continuing to you know maybe there's something else also that we're missing you know so I look forward to continuing to open up and be a district where everyone's welcomed uh where everyone feels saved safe but especially our children who often don't have the opportunity to speak like we do here um so thank you for bringing it forward and um I look forward to also you know hopefully um you know if there's any way that maybe because sometimes again a piece of paper is a great piece of paper but if we're not acting on it on that you know there's a problem so I look forward in not just passing it today but also act uh you know supporting it with actions um and you know whatever ways maybe we can get great ideas from the youth and um where everyone feels welcome so thank you again trusty PL Shon thank you trusty fam okay well you know now while we may have uh varying differences and things like budgets and all that I do want to thank firsty Flor Shelton uh for bringing for for this resolution I I'm going to say you know based on two Bedrock beliefs uh the schoolhouse only opens doors when it welcomes everyone and Alam rock is greater than some of its parts uh and as someone who you know is committed to getting more Alam rockers through our doors you know I think that you know uh we we welcome everyone of all different beliefs Fates uh Origins and so for for those reasons and I hope that this is a starting point in get you know encouraging more Alam rockers uh whoever they may be uh to get their kids through ourd doors too and also to provide all our kids a safe learning environment you know I'll be in favor of this resolution as well uh truste thank you thank you did you have your hand up I think you just gonna let the resolution uhp GTO um yeah I would be remiss if I didn't um give credit to a former arusd parent as well as lgbtq leader Ray mu who uh introduced the resolution um uh here and was adopted in Al Bron School District um obviously very much similar to the resolution prod that uh commits on Rock to making this a welcoming inclusive environment obviously I don't have the language right here with me but um I just wanted to make sure that uh Ray got credit for the work that he did and bringing that resolution forward and ensuring that it uh and ensuring that it uh passed on this board thank you for the for the U for the feedback no I'm gonna go and then we're going to vote okay I I thought the fact that I said this was the first and then I'm just hearing now that there was a pride resolution so um I was under the impression this was the first so I just want to absolutely acknowledge uh Ray Mueller and and would love to know what year that was that there was a a pride resolution that did pass so I just wanted to clarify the record that um when I spoke to you and the the administration we didn't have we didn't have one so it was 2018 I know that for a fact okay so just clarifying the record yes um um so like I said earlier um that I did put this on the agenda because I feel that it should be voted on um I have throughout my life I've had many uh LGBT uh friends and I grew up with them and so from elementary we still see each other to this day month after month we're still in contact we're still friends we've always loved each other in a respectful manner uh the way it should be I was also brought up by a maid who was also a gay man and he's probably the best maid we've ever had and always made sure we had curly hair but um that being said we can love everybody and respect everybody and it doesn't have to be just looked at through the lens of oh they're treating me like this badly or poorly because I'm LGBT sometimes it's not that it's because of their ignorance because they just don't know how to treat people right and lovingly so um I did see here on the fifth uh whereas where it says inclusion and affirmation yes I believe in inclusion but in affirmation when somebody is born uh and is assigned a biological sex either male or female and based on their genitalia um I do believe that that's who they're born uh what they're born under that's a god-given identity and because of my religion my beliefs and because I believe in God and this goes against what he believes I will not be voting for this so we're now going to take a vote all those in favor raise your hand uh four four well we already voted but I was going to ask if you would be able to amend the the comment about the purse that way it could be accurate not contain but it's fine I I think I said it I don't think it's it's not on I was just saying when I introduced it I said first I was like I've been I read it through and I it was in my my verbal comment got or so it's going to be for one one opposition being board president thank you moving on to the next number 503 you mean 504 oh excuse me 50 uh 504 thank you can you please be respectful thank you uh moving on to 504 adoption revised amended resolution 6123 order of election specification of the election order and consolidation request you I have a motion to adopt second okay we have a first and a a motion and a second so now I'm going to call for public comment seeing none let's move it on to trusty comment seeing none uh we're going to go for the vote all in favor of adopting raise your hand 5 Z motion passes next 505 discussion action Community engagement process for school consolidation uh Dr alasan would you like to speak on that um I believe this was trusty quintero's oh trusty quo I'm sorry um yes I MEP I we're we're facing some serious challenges probably challenges that are extraordinary uh in and we need a process to move this forward a process that's transparent um that uh allows people to um know what's going on and uh be able to make the necessary adjustments and uh and plans uh in place and I have uh put forward a um a proposal that I mentioned last time I brought it forward in writing and so I'll go ahead and read it and uh if you're ready I'll I'll gladly make a motion that effect and so the proposal is number one that the board shall hold two meetings in July two meetings in August and two meetings in September with a final site selection announcement to take place at the last of the two meetings of September or at latest the first Thursday in October of 2024 uh second a notification of the subject matter meeting dates times and locations be provided to all property owners in AR USD via postcard through the United States Postal Service and so uh that is my motion if you'll accept it do I have a second second okay um public comment seeing non- truste comment yeah and I'm sorry I didn't see that in the board book so um do you mind if I read that before I vote on it yeah you want me to read it again or no I'll just read it I just it was in our board book so I'm I I emailed it but I guess it didn't get included thank you um let's kind of last minute so yeah I just want to make sure before we vote that yeah oh can you read it out loud so Community engagement the the maker of the you want to read it you want him to read it out loud again and uh as I'm getting ready to read it I factored in some of the comments were made by our colleagues uh that some uh kids are uh in other countries till late in the in the year and so or in the summer and that uh that's why I place the at or or at the latest the first Thursday in October 2024 so I'll read it again uh one that the board shall hold two meetings in July two meetings in August of 2024 two meetings in September of 2024 with a final site selection announcement to take place on the last of the two meetings in September or at latest on the 1 Thursday in October of 2024 notification of the subject matter the meeting dates times and locations shall be provided to all proper owners in arusd Via postcard through US Postal Service or through the United States Postal Service okay now we're going to vote um all in favor can I ask a question before we vote sure um uh superintendent almazon can you remind me our first day of school the first day of school is on August 13th August 1 thank you 13 okay perfect thank you um and then I just just one question you have another I yeah okay and I might have five others I'm sorry I just allow one more and then we'll take a vote okay go ahead okay then let me think about my question one uh yes Dr alasan I just have some brief comments but IFA if you have your question go ahead and make your comments and then okay I'll add it um I just wanted to make a comment a few brief comments on this particular item because um the planning piece is uh is something that I'd like to offer some perspectives to the board um to consider if if you will and intentional planning um to truly engage stakeholders and potential Partners um is is you know one of the crucial pieces um to community engagement and certainly the timing that the board is is proposing um is very short um this isn't my and we know that families and uh site staff and Leadership um are are not um are not present in in the area um at this time and they're also a big piece of our community and so um July would be a time for the administration really um to backwards map right this this process and plan the content of the discussions as we engage our community um we need time to develop a criteria just like the criteria that you know our Consultants here were asking you all about and what the superintendent criteria would be like we'd like to hear from the public you know what would the criteria be like in terms of thinking about you know how the as we go through the process of school consolidation closure there needs to also be transition plans and strategies this is a very multi-layered process because we're talking nine schools and transition plans are very very um could be very complex um because there there's always so many different moving parts and variables that we have to consider and let me just go through some it's a very uh you know small piece of the puzzle but let me just go through some to give you all an example we need to considered the unique programming of every School site um transportation needs um enrollment by schools in terms of current and future and how will how will that affect space and capacity of our different School sites and as well as how does the school boundary how is that now impacted right as we make these moves and um you know certainly the capacity and the conditions of our facilities is always um in you know place played into this consideration uh piece in terms of Maintenance operations um and looking at the Deferred um maintenance costs as well as the long-term facilities plan um grants are also another another piece um as as you've heard in past in past um board meetings the the district has recently received you know 12.5 million um you know in Awards money for Community Schools and wellness centers and so you know those are the the pieces you know those are just examples of the many different grants that many of our schools have right so School consolidation in this process again please consider our original um timeline of July to November because school consolidation needs to be based on positive and negative factors and variables in terms of location capacity community impact for each school before the board approves um any School site for school consolidation so thank you for for the time okay your question so my question one question one question then Andrea trusty Andrea be next and just and I think I asked uh before but just to remind me you know because I'm in agreement with like November and I don't know that a month you know would make that much of a difference but if I can be reminded on the urgency of octo October if it wasn't November um what the urgency would be of that month of doing it the month to the proposer of the I think that the public needs to know I know that in the in prth meetings uh we had some comments made that um we're gonna have everybody take off the fact of the matter is this is a very serious Choice decision that we've made I I I supported the the larger number in an effort to save one more TK through 8 to give us more flexibility for students to move I wasn't necessarily inclined to move with such a large number in one shot but my desire was to save that tk8 to give that Community a place to go at this point we're going to go we're going to make serious issu serious decisions that are going to affect uh kids their parents we're going to affect our csca members they're going to lose their jobs as a result of the fact that the sites aren't there everybody that's going to be affected with it should have way well Advanced knowledge of the issues that are going to affect them and we should not do this make this decision based on how it's going to be comfortable for us or beneficial for us we need to make it uh uh make it to where they know what's going on early in advance we're making a drastic decisions here very it's going to affect people's lives and the least we could do is give them uh advanced notice of what's taking place so that they can start making the decision they need to do and I have no doubt that as a result of this we have Charter people DCP leadership going out there the County Board of Education telling them we are going to go ahead and survive based on the people that are going to leave Alam Rock because of this decision that's being made and that's three rep they actually have transcripts of everything that happens in their meetings and they provide them to the public which is something that we're gonna have to consider here because it's more transparent I'm very very appreciative of the fact that they do that sometimes I have issues with some of the stuff I have as the county office said appreciated with that and so that's the reason I made uh my my proposal for October was based on a comment that you made and I factored that in um so that you know at earliest uh in early October and so I assume that that would be a sage some of the concerns that were raised in the previous meeting um but my my my my desire would be to move in September give everybody advanced notice of what's taking place and let the chips follower they made and the benefit would be to people that are being affected by it so they can make the decisions that they to make to make their lives better as opposed to making us as a board comfortable or the district uh trusty floran and then trusty uh bam thank you is this only questions or is it comments comments okay thank you um so couple thoughts one is um I appreciate uh interim superintendent sort of walking through the complexity of this and um also um understand vice president Kino's overarching um concern um over what I would summarize is tell people sooner rather than later and let the chips fall where they may um I am still persuaded that the community engagement process should um be as long as necessary um not just for the analysis that I think is critical to making a really good decision since it is such a um important one but also Community engagement just isn't our families the flip side of this is that we are all concerned that nine facilities sit fallow and so I think the other side of this community engagement process is finding out what the market might bear to activate these sites and by pream closure sites without understanding what the market and I say the market not like you know for sale or anything but who are these possible users and what are the facilities because I think there's another factor in this which is which of our schools if we have to close nine might bring in Revenue right and if we pre- name schools and then someone says well actually I wanted X but you guys aren't closing why and then we are leaving money out on the street that could be in our coffers I think we're doing the bottom line in the district of diservice we could actually come back at midy year or second interim or third interim and say hey we actually have enough revenue and I'm being idealistic but if you let this community engagement process play out broadly enough and say we could save a school we could actually or we could save a school because we have enough money in hand and I just think by rushing this we're putting the cart before the horse and we're not giving ourselves a chance to help ourselves um so I'm thinking about this from um Revenue generation and even just making sure that they're not sitting there fallow or not spending $122,000 a month to take around graffiti and U put up fences and do all these things so we don't have MOA times nine so I think Community engagement encompasses the kind of work that the superintendent office is going to need to do to talk to a significant amount of hopefully stakeholders that say we want to be partners with you to try to activate these spaces and I think the neighbors of alen rock want us to do that too thank you uh trust F you know I you know thank you madam president I think there's uh you know those are points well appreciated I think that they're you you know uh I you know I think that you know and I'll be honest I've always I have stated my my belief that uh you know there's always a possibility for a smaller consolidation and I think that uh you know for something of this magnitude you know I you know my I think that you know uh nothing is more Community engaging uh than the Democratic process and I think that uh you know at the end of the day uh I think the people in some way or another ought to have an ability to uh weigh in and I think that uh you know this you know if this board is going to make a decision on consolidation you know no matter what the you know how many sites it may be uh I you know it should be done uh in in the timeline consistent with a you know eventure you know at the end of the day allowing uh the people the residents of alam Rock You know the final say on uh on consolidation so uh you know I I'm you know that's why I'm leaning in favor of this uh you know action item thank you very much okay so um so I'm going to go so I I heard what everybody said and um kind of on the same page but we're not experts we're not Market firms and we don't know how much the leases will bring on on the properties that we will be closing so I do believe that we do need a consultant first to see which ones would be more marketable um and perhaps put out an RFQ for that uh because we're not the experts so um I want you guys excuse me I want the trustees to consider that um that we need to do that before we make these decisions and that way we can get their input their professional input because again we're not Consultants um so if did I get public did I get public comment on this already uh I think I did okay so I'm going to allow everybody one more time and then we're going to vote uh seen uh trusty coras and then uh trusty Flor Shelton's next and then Dr alasan comes before your question go ahead um the way that uh vice president contero had um read the request I just wanted to make sure that I am um understanding this correctly that the board is holding these meetings and not the administration well every board meeting is a meeting of the board the administration's here to okay I just facilitate those meetings so it would be a board meeting of the board and staff would be working uh with us to help us through the process com and prepared to the meetings with giving us information in a very transparent Manner and the public would be here they would be able to speak on the issues and we'd be getting feedback as we move through the process okay so two additional board meetings during these months is is I just want to make sure so the we as transparent as possible okay um okay okay okay Sor um so then yours and then yours and then we V for the vote I mean I think a couple of hours ago we just like looked at our calendars and put in like three additional meetings and so to add you know and we had already two meetings and then to add two more meetings not just for us but I think for our community is just not I mean again I'm wondering what the rush is for October versus a month more or two um and then in in addition you know when I read this item Community engagement process for school consolidation I was really excited I wasn't sure what you know I wasn't sure who presented it or uh who was going to bring it forward and so when I you know for example when um our first presenters when we talked about you know our superintendent recruitment you know the timeline I'm like okay great this is going to going to be something similar I want to see something like that and and I think to your point president I think that's a great idea because yeah they're not experts and I feel like we need a little bit of support um if it's not uh you know somebody who has done this before then at least a little bit more time especially if we're guiding that right I'd love to see the the timeline we saw for the superintendent that's thoughtful that you know includes do we miss anyone um Al I think we all want the same right we all want to make I mean it's a tough decision one of the toughest we will ever make and that we do it in a way that you know is um is the best way possible they no good way but um yeah I I I I can't support this um motion that we currently have okay um I'm going to allow you to speak but just I'm I'm going to make one brief comment so when my husband was first on the board they had 40 meetings in one month so this is nothing compared to when they were doing all of their meetings and they even got flagged from the state for having so many go ahead trusty Flor Shelton how many days were there in the in one month yeah yeah um so comment then a question for trusty fam um so I won't be supporting uh this motion for two reasons one um the the details of it are not public um and with transparency and enough advanced notice um two as I said last time I think the superintendent search is is a phase then the consolidation Community engagement is a phase I think we are overwhelming community in the summer and they're not even it's going to they're it's going to backfire if this passes because they're going to come back to school and be like what did I miss this summer so um and that's not authentic Community engagement as I said last time we used the parent University use the open houses to make get this on people's radar um and so I find this to be seriously flawed from an authentic Community engagement um strategy and then trusty fam I just wanted to ask you are you suggesting that this goes to the ballot because I couldn't tell what you well I meant in the sense that I my my personal belief you know and I just speaking from a Bedrock principle nothing else I mean you know if if if it were you know my which it is not you know I would you know for for something of this magnitude with you know at 45% of the district potentially you know I you know uh as a trustee I would think that it would be a little arrogant of me to make that decision on my own and that you know and you know such you know preferably something of that magnitude should be decided you know at a referendum okay so thank you for the answer to that and I would say in line with what you're saying a process at least through nove November gets at having this have the most voices versus some rushed multiple Community we're asking you to come to a superintendent search meeting oh no now we're asking you to come to a school consolidation theme there's we can talk about our capacity all day long and sit here we're talking about what is the community's capacity to absorb this and understand this and be thoughtful about it when we're asking them to after the pandemic and everything go enjoy your damn summer right why are we doing to them to say show up to nine board meetings and tell us all these things I just find it to be very confusing for the community and I'm fired up about this and I apologize but because I don't understand how this supports the community and I I I'm not hearing um answers after two and I'm really concerned that this these details were not on the agenda just speak can that continues to be brought up I sent this precise document which is exactly what I mentioned at the last board meeting in a publicly agendized board meeting that we were all here I said at the next meeting I'm going to get introduce an item that spells out the process that I I believe is the one that gives everybody advanced notice that it's not for the benefit of any particular board member or any particular staff person that uh this is a tough decision it's going to hurt people it's going to remove the ability to provide for their families the least we could do is give them advance notice as to what's going to happen so they can make the necessary plans so this continues to be brought up that H this is not transparent I I I spoke to this item at the last minute I explained it I sent it to the superintendent I said can you please put it on the agenda I was told yes it will be on the agenda the uh the the title was placed but the uh the actual language wasn't so I hope that that clarifies for my colleagues and for the public that I did my part now I'm not lay laying blame on anybody but I would I would appreciate the fact that I I would hope that my colleagues would understand that now I'm explaining to you I hope that you would take that into consideration when you continue to state that there's a lack of transparency I did my part so um I'm sure that the I I still hold the floor but if you want to answer a question I I would be glad I just wanted to um offer some clarity on that um vice president quino um that was sent to to the board president and myself but how it was worded um it was very confusing to me because putting it on the agenda the way it was worded it was my assumption that I was directing the board to do this and that was not my that wasn't the intent if it were to be worded that way where it says staff analysis on the board cover and so I I had put the um agenda item for you so that you could speak to it and that is my that is my um explanation um because I wouldn't be able to direct the board to have two board meetings it would be the board deciding deciding that so that's that was where my perspective was was coming in so go ahead and and I I appreciate the clarification but um I understand that there are instances where we place items on the agenda and it comes as a board uh it's placed as a board members item and so obviously it's understood sir so thank you for the clarification um with regard to the concerns about why is it so rushed why is it so rushed well why exactly does November make the most sense I would ask that the the hard deadline is March 15 because that's when you have to tell people that you're not going to have a job anymore uh at least the certificated folks and I think CA is a little bit after that or right around the same time um so that would be the hard deine we could go all the way there and then give people just a month or two to make whatever plans that they have to do uh whatever take action whatever action why exactly does November November 14th why is that the best and most ideal time to for the board to take action I want ask that and I would ask the public to really think about that why is that November meeting specifically uh on the 14th somehow the most ideal time uh does that really make sense no it it doesn't and I'm pushing for September but uh I'm I'm trying to I my own colleagues comments B mentioned maybe October early October and so I went ahead and I thought that a compromise would be acknowledging uh comments made by some of my colleagues and then we would get to a place where we can all support this but I see that that's no longer the case and U me then you then you okay so um I'm sorry are you done I'm done and I'll call for the question after you're done with those comments that you've already called okay I I've allowed everybody their comments and I'm going to speak last and then I'm going to call for the vote um I don't I don't think maybe you heard the piece where he said that the mailers would go to all of the um to the homes um as well as there in 2021 uh there was a 7-Eleven committee everybody in alen mock has known for a long time that we had to shut down um and close schools this is not new to anybody um so this committee what they did was they got all the stakeholders and of all the stakeholders they were supposed to say and uh give uh the recommendation of which school to close they gave a lot of good recommendations but they didn't give the recommendations on which one specifically to close so it is now left on on the board we are three years later after the 7-Eleven committees and all of you were in the 7-Eleven committees I would zoom in on them and see them and so this should not be a surprise to anybody everybody has known about it for years it's come down to now we have to do something about it things weren't people weren't willing to do things about it then but now we're in the last hour and are we going to take the heat for it yes because it wasn't done sooner rather um than now at this last days these last months and is it going to be a lot of meetings yes are we going to do our best to be at all the meetings yes are we going to do all this for the kids so that everybody all the stakeholders involved are going to get the best possible outcome we're trying we're not going to please everybody you can't please everybody but we still have to get it done and I and I just hope that everybody has their the patience and the willingness to work with us and I hope that every parents and student stays here in alen mock we're not saying that you can't stay in alen rock we're saying stay with us just at a different site let's consolidate the site and I see people shaking their heads but that's okay because we're not going to uh we're not going to please everybody but we can't because now it is our fiscal responsibility to do what we have to do and so now we're going to take the vote all those in favor uh raise your hand did we do for the com yes I already did there was nobody all those in favor raise your hand so it's three okay all those opposed raise your hand okay three to two motion passes and the next one is 506 and I got to take a b break can you take item 506 approv resolution number 71- 2324 juneth commemoration of the emancipation of enslaved people in the United States and from what I recall at the last meeting board colleague uh Corda uh asked the staff to ENT to bring for this resolution uh I'll hand it over to you at this time thank you vice president kto so uh I'm very honored um to be able to you know do this um in highlighting and honoring our African-American Community our students our staff um here at ausd and the greater Alma Community um and in collaboration with Milan Valentin um who's the executive director for the African-American community service serves agency and also a trustee for the Franklin McKinley School District um and uh you know I want to thank uh the Franklin mckeny School District they passed this you know before us um and they you know graciously enough um shared what they had passed and then reading that and speaking with um U Mr Bellington and um Miss Veronica tton too um and uring that you know this resolution um would capture what our district here um you know would need and um making some edits I am happy um and again honored to present this uh for the board's consideration so I'm going to go ahead and read it whereas juneth also known as Freedom Day is an annual holiday that honors enslaved people learning of their freedom under the Emancipation Pro Proclamation and whereas although the Emancipation Proclamation was issued by President Abraham Lincoln in January 18 63 it wasn't until June 19th 18 1865 by Union Soldiers many of whom were black marched into Galveston Texas and announced the emancipation of the last remaining people in the southern Confederate states and whereas June 10th has long been celebrated in the africanamerican community this Monumental event is largely unknown to most Americans and whereas juneth serves as a significant event in our nation's history symbolizing the pursuit of freedom justice and equality for all and whereas juneth provides an opportunity for those in the Allen Rock un Elementary School District to honor the gift and achievements of African-Americans promoting cultural diversity understanding and fullness and whereas observing juneth within arusd will encourage a sense of belonging and appreciation among our students staff families and community members and whereas recognizing the celebrating and celebrating juneth aligns with our commitment to equity diversity and inclusion encouraging an Allin educational environment that supports the success and wellbeing of all students therefore be it resolved that the alrock UN Elementary School District hereby acknowledges juneth as a significant historical event and encourages the celebration of juneth in our schools through educational activities and events that promote awareness understanding and appreciation for juneth such as include juneth into the course of studies ensuring that students learn about the historical significance and importance of juneth in American history organizing special assemblies presentations or guest speakers to educate students about juneth and its cultural significance encouraging schools to engage in art projects performances or displays that highlight the history and accomplishments of African-Americans collaborating with Community organizations and cultural organizations to host events workshops or displays the celebration of juneth providing professional development opportunities for staff to deepen the understanding of juneth and its importance to our educational Mission making sure that information about juneth celebrations and educational activities is shared with parents families and the community Through various contacts therefore be it resolved that the elmar Union Elementary School District urges all schools and departments within the district to actively participate in juneth celebrations incorporating activities and events that promote inclusivity cultural diversity and a deeper understanding of juneth thank you asking my colleagues to support uh this item second who made the motion motion making the motion okay thank you uh public comment good evening Veronica Talton Alam Rock employee and Resident just want to thank truste and R L for bringing this forward I spoke at the last board meeting about the significance of jun and I urge uh President Chavez and the members of this board to please supported uh as the only African-American in this room tonight the only African-American in both of the school sites where I sered but I also founded the 1619 club for the safe space of African-American students at George Middle School um I'm asking uh TR trustee Chavez board president to consider the black student union formation for middle schools in this District I know that we are consolidating schools but the black students of California United is a Statewide organization focus on developing African-American students through culturally competent leadership training Civic engagement experiences experential Project based learning dual generation engagement mental and physical health maintenance habit habits and practices training as someone who has led students that are not all africanamerican because we are few I would love to see the district prove their support of black lives matter in school which passed in 2020 under the leadership of truste arera Lera who was board president to pay the $75 per Middle School price to create safe spaces for African-American students who are marginalized in our schools and who repeatedly experience racial discrimination harassment and oppression so there is a districtwide fee that can be paid on behalf of all the middle schools but I urge the district to prove their support of black Educators and students by passing this resolution and also considering black students of California United thank you good evening once again um part of community proud parent of to Al students I just want to say thank you to trusta for bringing resolutions like this tonight yeah they might be discussions they not be agreements but I feel that in the room when resolution like this passes the agreement is the wellbeing of our students their safety their acceptance and that they are seen by who they are and who and the future that we have here so um I urge you all to pass this resolution to um continue showing that our kids matter that they matter that they are basically matter um yes yes that thank you good afternoon F board members um I too uh believe it's resolution my topic is around uh something that was brought up last month around uh survey on safety excuse me right now we're taking public comment for the juneth thank you uh is there any more public comment seeing none um uh truste uh first trusty Shelton and then uh VP Gino and then um trusty fan thank you um thank you trusty Letta for bringing this and for um our steadfast advocates um in our faculty and um uh Veronica I just always appreciate your strength and your leadership um in the space and um I do hope that as the seconder of this um that the administration brings back juneth and I'd say Pride back yearly um without having you know we it's great to have an a board sponsorship um but that we bake this into um who we are on an annual um basis and continue to LIF lift this up this is a new commemoration really for um I don't think you know this is a new holiday it's a new commemoration and we need to keep um lifting up and figuring out how this is um embedded as we you know walk our talk and so I just again appreciate you lifting this up um and uh I know there's so much work that staff is doing doing um to continue to to move these forward as we head into the school year um and school will be out right every juneth and school is out during pride and so how do we how do we figure out how to incorporate these um into the ethnic studies curriculum so again appreciate it and I'm happy to support it um I also want to thank the author of the resolution and um I would uh one thing I would ask is if you would consider an amendment in the whereas um there's a reference to the Confederate States um would you be willing to refer to them as the Southern States in Rebellion um the only reason I bring that up is because that's a terminology that Jose Ramon Pico used when he recruited the all Latino Brigade that he led to go and fight these Southern States in Rebellion he didn't call them by that fictitious name that they made up for themselves uh I think it lends Credence and it gives him legitimacy of some sort uh by using that that terminology and saying that they were they actually existed when in fact they were in rebellion and shouldn't be recognized but I'm just asking if that would be a consideration go ahead and is the person who made the motion and the person who made the second I'll ask you next go ahead I I'm the person motion are you okay with me responding yes I just had I just said that I am oh thank you thank you for highlighting that to the audience um good points and you know because I did review this with community members you know at this point I'd like to leave it the way by all means if if the folks that you work with are comfortable with that terminology then go for it I'm just uh something that I personally don't like and point just I'm coming to my colleagues to see if that's something but um it's not gonna make or break it I'm not going to oppose it simply because it's there but I personally don't like to use that reference um yeah regardless and and I'm not against it I'm just saying because to honor and respect it's your commun work withs and B me so I'm not going to I it's just something I wanted to express because that's what I believe in there and it's not something that I lightly throw out there I made reference to things that I've read and I'm using somebody who's in this community who lived here born in s died in Alam pennes because his government wouldn't give him a damn dime after he went out there and and and put exposed himself and led people to die fighting the Confederacy a brigade of Spanish speaking Latinos that were writing and were taken because of their skills and their ability to be on horseback they were used uh and then some of them got screwed ripped off so I just wanted to I know that I had raised my hand and you gave me the opportunity to speak I just wanted to respond to that and I think uh M Shon FL was next NOP I no I was just I wasn't gonna support it if you were gonna support it but we don't have to okay trusty fam I think you were next oh okay yeah so I wanted to thank trusty herrer Lera for bringing this uh to the board for consideration and uh again uh you know I I you know as someone who Who's Who Wants More Alan rockers in the doors you I want to welcome everyone I think that this resolution um you know is a important step in in affirming our promise to have you know keep keep the schoolhouse open for all uh the only thing I would add you know ask is that uh since uh in reference to to miss Talton uh if there's any more information about the black student Alliance or Union because uh when I was in Middle School that didn't uh that we didn't really have many clubs when I was in Middle School that was sort of a high school thing but you know if there's a middle school club you know I you know I'd be you know would like more information about it but also see if you know I would mind you know making a donation to support a you know a chapter at one of our middle schools you know doing you know we're all doing our part to support our students in one way or another thank you thank you thank you that's very generous of you um so we're going to now vote uh on the motion all in favor raise your hands so it's 5- Z motion passes unanimously so now I'm going to move on to public comment uh miss the gentleman in the back do you want to come up now it's going to be 2011 we were ping ponging uh on the agenda today uh because of the presentation but I we would like to hear you thank you very much uh thank fell board members um and uh staff here I wanted to highlight that a topic was brought up about how our safety numbers are from the survey and it's pretty disappointing that every year we ask the same thing and the numbers doesn't change why because we continue do the same thing over and over and expect change what I would highly recommend the the uh staff do and the board support is what Atlanta did back in 2018 when they realized there was not enough data to be able to take action they created a separate survey for um the students U from third grade to e8th grade they had all the students they did they feel unsafe in the morning during lunch after school there's enough questions to be able to really understand what is causing our students to feel unsafe that same survey was done and given out to the we then had data so that we as parents and teachers could take action and see change we we focused on making sure that we had a gate added an offense added that were some things that that made students uncomfortable amongst other certain things so I'm asking you that if you don't feel that it's important to increase the safety of our children is to get the data by not re um doing the same s survey over and over and expecting change but to do something meaningful to get you the information so that the schools can take action that's one thing the next thing um I'm glad with that there's this plan to have these dates a rushing to make a a bad decision isn't the right thing to do it should have been take your time make sure there's a plan and engage the they here not in the summer that is not an engagement we I've gone to meetings we've taken a look but we have not been told what this going is how is it going to impact the school if you're going to do Comm me is make sure you're there at the school with parents when they're there not when they're not there thank you thank you uh any more public comment seeing none we're going to move on to um uh the next one is a 301 which is the progress of local performance indicators it's for information Dr alasan thank you president um there's a brief presentation on this and I'd like to invite um our director of state and federal Sandra Garcia and our director of academic Services Terry goodford to present this to us please m good evening good evening uh board President Chavez um inum superintendent um Dr Alazan um board members Community my name is Sandra Garcia the director of state and federal programs and um Miss Bickford and I are here this evening to present um on the California dashboard local indicators this is the annual report um that is required as part of the elap okay there we go uh so just a reminder um that um annually we are asked to uh report on the local indicators um as part of the elcap process and um in the spring we gather information from uh parents from students from our um surveys um from input sessions on the local indicator so that uh we can present this information on our California dashboard page um in June we are required as part of a non-consent item um to report to the board on um these results and then we are asked to report these um onto the dashboard and sorry that date has changed it is not in November it is now in July so by the end of July we are required to um upload our information to um our California dashboard page as a reminder uh we have state and local indicators the state indicators are priority four five six and8 and those are gathered um Based on data um from the California Department of Education and it's mainly on um suspension data chronic absenteeism and academic data that has already been presented to the board in the past tonight we will be reporting on the local indicators which are the rest of the priorities um this is just another reminder of what the state indicators are and the local indicators this evening we'll be focused on the right hand side where we will talk about basic services and conditions of learning which is Priority One uh implementation of State academic standards priority two parent engagement priority three School climate priority six and Broad course of study priority 7 I'm going to begin with uh Priority One which are basic services and this is these are the items that are also um meet the Williams um settlement requirements um and they are uh around providing um the uh qualified teachers for our students um also um the facilities and instructional materials and um these are the results of how we landed this school year um in terms terms of uh teacher um Miss assignments and uh vacant teacher positions and then our instructional materials all students had uh stand standards of line instructional materials um to be accessed at school and at home and um the uh identified instances that where facilities do not meet good repair um were 19 instances and that's throughout the school district and um there are about 10 areas that are checked at every School site so that's um and 16 of them were fair so it's good and then fair I'm going to go ahead and hand it over to Tara now so she can um speak to the state priority to okay good good evening I should say um so State priority 2 looks at the Common Core State Standards in the academic realm for us and so how these are B based is we survey teachers annually and they self-report and self assess on how we are doing with the district on providing services and supports for them around Common Core State Standards so as you'll see on this slide um it allows us to look at areas where teachers are identifying we really need to focus to support them and we can adjust our professional learning for them our mentoring and different supports that we have in place um so number one talks to professional learning for teachers on the Common Core State Standards number two the instructional materials that are aligned to that Pro those programs and number three also looking at um how we can improve that instruction for teachers so as you can see there's some numbers there that will if I go back you have the one through five for the rating scale so five is obviously the highest um and you'll see little asteris and different symbols there so the asteris are representing of the ones that we increased last year but then sustained that same score this year the little carrots you see there are ones that we increased this year so you'll notice ngss and history got an increase for instructional materials and then the one at the bottom on number three with the exclamation um that's where we declined in our score this year for how they felt so that one definitely illustrates that we need to give that one attention going forward um and then going on to the next slide we also know there's work to be done and we're always working on progress towards academic standard adoption by the State Board of Education as well as is success in engaging our teachers by identifying professional development needs as a group as individuals um and to support them with mentoring and coaching where needed so a big Focus this year was to increase professional learning that align to their needs we continue to make that a focus going forward um and you'll see that this year we sustain professional learning overall um going on to I'm going to pass it to Sandra sorry okay the next two are um mine which are around parent engagement um and school climate so um State priority three um consists of uh seeking input from parents in decision making and promoting parent participation and programs and what we've done in this area is um looked at the parent survey results from Panorama and we have done a self- assessment template for parent engagement and we've uh rolled it out to parents at our advisory meetings and also sent out a separate survey um Gathering their input on the different areas of um the priority um so first these are our results and we've shared them several times um over the past few months uh on parent engagement and overall there is a strong sense of um of of Engagement by families um you know the percent here has not changed over the past few years it has stayed pretty steady U with a strong sense of belonging with 96% of parents feeling that um they are welcomed um to participate at schools um that the staff treat them with respect uh staff welcomes their suggestions and staff responds to them in a timely manner um so that is the information from our climate survey the Panorama survey and then this is um a combination of um a survey that was sent home um through our student services department to parents on the three different areas this tool um the first area is building relationships um and it it's broken down into four areas and again five is full implementation for for full implementation and uh sustainability and four is full implementation where is where we want to be four or five um and so in these areas for developing capacity of staff to build trusting relationship uh we gave ourselves a rating of four creating welcome environments of four a supporting staff to learn about family strength cultures and languages we know that this is an area that we continue to um find ways to to improve um so that's a three and then multiple opportunities for two-way communication we feel that there's always um even more ways that we can um communicate with our parents and um that was the information that was given to us by them as well so this area is called building relationships and over to the right um this is information that we gathered through our advisory committees when we also rolled this information out to them and some very um important information um was gathered in those meetings on just ideas on how we can improve in this area um and a lot around wanting Fellowship type of events and um more family type events where families can meet one another and gather together and just kind of have fun and um build community um also um one that comes up every year parents really love parents square but feel that there are still other ways that we could um improve communic communication so that parents truly understand how their children are doing in school and ways that they could support them the second part of this survey is called building Partnerships for student outcomes and um this is on of course the Partnerships with the school on um having the information they need and the resources they need knowing the policies and um uh knowing the their rights and how to advocate for students and so um the first two have received a rating of a four and then um this Implement policies and programs to discuss student progress at three as I stated earlier parents do feel strongly that we do still need to find ways to um help them understand um how to help their children improve in school and then the last is U really educating parents on um their legal rights and advocating for their students um um when we spoke to parents at our advisory meetings um the conversation was around um having more consistency across schools they um very felt strongly that some schools um have more resources than others and have more programming than others and so I I know that we um in developing our mtss model as well this year we've talked a lot about there are C certain things that should be across all schools and we're working towards that and I think the parents are feeling that as well that some schools do have more resources than others and it just all depends on you know principal seeking um resources and us really being able to provide them with that information on what's out there and and programs that they could use the last area is called seeking input for decision making and that is like um engaging families uh to be leaders in their in our district and um encouraging them training them um giving them the the support that they need so that they can be involved in decision making um activities in our district also um seeking their input um when implementing um programs and strategies and um having the opportunity to work alongside uh other teachers and um principal and even uh district office um staff to uh plan and design um Family engagement activities um and some of the comments there of how we can improve in this area is um figure out ways that we could retain parent leaders on advisory groups because we do have parents that at the very beginning say yeah I want to be part of that and then as the year goes on they kind of stop attending and so how do we retain um those parents on our ADV advisory committees and how do we um what do we do in terms of retention and and encouraging them to stay on and giving them um the the resources to feel like they're important on those committees um parents need to be meaningfully included in decision making uh and we need to share best practices between school sites because some school sites do have stronger School site councils than others and so what are those School site councils what are those principles doing to keep their parents engaged and really have a robust um School site Council um at their site okay um and then the next one in mind is the school climate and this is um and you've heard a lot about the school climate survey um in our elcap development and this is strictly based on the parent and student surveys um you've seen these results before and for some reason it keeps it continues to want to show the little arrows that I put so sorry about that uh I think I remember which went up and which went down um so anyway this one this first one is about school safety and connectedness um and this is for parents 3,441 parents responded to uh this climate survey and like I said earlier pretty good results in these areas and then these are for the students and it's broken by elementary and middle um and and uh students feeling safe at school uh the the top two went down and then the rest went up I I remember because I changed it earlier for some reason those little arrows aren't coming out but in terms of students feeling safe at school um we went down two points for elementary and five for Middle School um students filling close to people at school went up seven points from last um school year in the spring and um up five from um for middle school and students feeling a strong sense of belonging we went up four points to 74% and the Elementary in 59 we went up from 50% to 59% in the middle school students are happy at school we went up one in elementary and eight in Middle School [Music] and I'm going to turn the rest over to T So moving on to Priority 7 this looks at the broad course of study for our students this is reported annually By Us by a self-reflection narrative but we also survey the teachers about this um so on your next slide you'll see kind of our descriptors that we put in there the broadc course access looks at what subjects we offer and elementary and middle school and what courses um overall and most teachers felt that we do provide a broad course of access to our students now we did recognize that in the survey we gathered some qualitative data and barriers did appear and this year was a little different than in past years because we've done a lot of strategic work around ELD and some of the mandates that we have to do ferally so there was a big um need that came out in the survey around um our students who have to take ELD as a regulation lose access to their elective course so how can we be Innovative to put that on a zero period or after school those elective pieces because we're not allowed to do that for El um so that they can at least access that as well and then we also had uh um a need for universally designed courses which that's exciting because we're starting to see that training come out by one of our own our coordinator Wyatt who is leading the charge on that and we've started to do some of that work so it was great to see that correlation um and then also a need to fill the foundational skills so when we're looking at Elementary reading it was loud and clear from our staff that we needed to do a lot of work around phonics and ponic awareness so as you'll see in the revisions or answers to that need that came up or those barriers We are continuing to train udl we're working with principles to think innovatively about how to support that zero period or after school time to offer the that resource to get the electives or language um and then we're also bringing in a districtwide t p a to foundational skill program to add on to their reading curriculum that they have and we'll see that roll out this next school year so we're excited for all of those pieces to come out and we loved getting the teacher input on that to help us push that along the next steps for our local indicators is for us to upload all of this to the dashboard by July 31st and then it'll be publicly released in December and that's the end of us presenting that but if you guys have comments or questions we're here uh any trusty comments okay seeing none that's it okay thank moving on to the next one uh three uh pardon was there any can do I have any public comment on the uh presentation uh one okay thank you for sorry hi hi hi victoriaa I am a parent here at uh the district and I guess I'd be curious to know more about the safe aspect like why do students don't feel safe is it because of other kids is it because of their I don't know the teacher other I don't know so if you can I don't know if I can get that information some way that'd be helpful for me thank you thank you okay um there was no trusty comments right okay moving on to 302 the Strategic plan annual update information only we have um Aaron price from gpg to uh present to us the annual update for our strategic plan so welcome back Aon I see can I I apologize I did not know that you had comments I apologize is that okay yes yeah um good evening um I just kind of wanted to share kind of a little background I'm not sure if you all remember Aaron from last year but he was part of of the team that worked with the district in creating the Strategic plan and throughout last year he worked with us on creating an implementation plan and he continues to work with us this year in order to really keep us moving in the right direction and really try to bring all our pieces together for our staff and our teachers and our principales so that we're all moving in the in the right direction to meet the goals of the Strategic plan so I want to pass it on and in your board books not only is there a copy of the presentation but a little bit more of a description of the work that we've done this school year in a memo form thank you Ain thanks for being here yeah um good evening everyone and a a great teeing up of this and I have the kind of small role here of just being able to share some of these updates with you all um which is a pleasure um and also doing a little bit of just regrounding in the Strategic plan itself there's a lot of great connection points to things that have come up earlier uh in this meeting and I'm sure to to many other uh meetings that that you all had recently so just as a a brief reminder so the board approved the Strategic plan in June of 2022 this is a of a visual very high level visual from the Strategic plan with the vision in the center all alumrock students will be ready for the future in a diverse and competitive world um and then the three main areas of focus surrounding that triangle all in service of academic growth and Improvement in College and Career Readiness uh and this just kind of re excuse me Recaps those three main priority areas uh which will be the structure of of some of the um later slides here and and also the memo that you all have in the board book so there's whole child and whole family development Multicultural and multilingual education and early learning and expanded learning uh and then as as BB mentioned the implementation plan which was developed in the year F the school year following the um adoption of the Strategic plan got a little more detailed what are some of the specific activities um Over a four-year period to to make progress on the goals in the Strategic plan also wanted to just reference some of the inment with the lcap as that's something that has um been a recent focus and the first bit here is just pulled directly from the Strategic plan that it's intended to frame complement and reform and not to replace other more targeted District planning efforts such as the lcap and list a few others and the Strategic plan priorities and goals are reflected in the the 2024 25 lcap goals and in particular the goal uh number two two in the lcap around implementing a districtwide multi-tier system of support uh is clearest um or most direct uh area of alignment so um I'm going to review some key areas of implementation progress from this past school year and this information really comes from meetings with Department leads the management team and it describes the work that's been done uh again organiz by these three priority areas and the memo has some additional information as well so first up um looking at whole child and whole family development uh work on the multi-tiered system of support really to put together a framework for Alam Rock's mtss system do a a self assessment of what infrastructure already exists and what else is needed uh as well as starting to do some training um particularly for principles and the management team and I know this is an area that will continue to be a priority uh and there'll be more work ahead and talk about that in a little bit Community Schools was also referenced earlier um this this evening this past school year was the second year of a two-year planning process that culminated with a Grant application which was selected for funding and will'll provide funding for a fiveyear implementation period and the focus this past year was was really on site level planning first year of planning was more at the district level second year looking more at site level having each participating site form a Team Planning team um doing a survey of uh families students staff Community Partners um at those sites um there's was some um training particularly around the the SST 504 processes for staff and then udl which was Universal Design for Learning which was also just referenced here um there were two cohort cohorts of staff that completed a level one udl certification and it's not referenced on the slide but but it's in the the plan that there's also a focus on training on constructing meaning um and there were two cohorts completed for elementary school um teachers on on constructing mean so that's priority area one whole child and whole family development um moving into the second priority area Multicultural and multilingual education and this ties to some of the resolutions um that uh came up earlier earlier today so one of the things that happened over this past year was a development of a diverse book list created and some books already shared from this list in relation to and support of of activating or implementing um resolutions that the board passed earlier in the year for example Ruby Bridges day recognition of Ruby Bridges day additional board resolutions on cultural celebrations and Multicultural education um and and these excuse me these two things really play together and and part of the thinking moving forward is that books from this list could be provided um in relation to the cultural celebrations that the district the board the community has decided to prioritize so they would be distributed along with some um material lesson plans or other materials that would allow for um sites to have have resources to draw on in terms of implementing some of these celebrations recognitions acknowledgements at the site level ethnic studies 5-year plan was approved um by the board in I believe January and then there's been some additional and more detailed implementation planning following that uh and then there's uh the final bullet point here aligned by literacy attainment recognition really working to align these recognitions across the Dual language of emersion schools that the district has for Fifth and eth grade at the third area um and again still looking kind of reflecting on the work this past school year uh increased capacity both for early learning and for expanded learning so in early learning um especially through Partnerships with kadango and think together for the California state preschool program number of sites and then for expanded learning through implementation of the elop the expanded learning opportunity program uh there's also some just one thing to highlight here uh as an example A partnership with Metro Ed for middle school students um which is metroed is the Metropolitan education District uh and um f it was a focus on Career and Technical education for middle school students as one example but there's other part ships in the expanded learning space as well one thing that exciting here I think is is uh this year also has some examples of shared professional development with those expanded learning and early learning Partners um which is something that's a long time been of a recommended in best practice and it's in the plan and there's some um progress on that this year so in the area of expanded learning there was PD for expanded learning providers on social and emotional learning tool tools that the district uses like Kochi and sewn to grow so there's some alignment with what um teachers and others uh working with kids during the school day are trained in and what the expanded learning providers are trained in and for the Early Learning space um there's a monthly professional development sessions with teachers from preschool through third grade so trying to build that P3 uh alignment a range of topics development including developmentally appropriate practice inclusion and adaptive Services uh and then finally family Recruitment and Communications um in both of these areas one example being kind of putting together a brochure for families of their expanded learning options how they need to um reach out or where they can find information about enrollment excuse me is that in like several languages on that um when when you do do the early and expanded learning you said that there's a they just go directly the brusher of information um I don't know off the top of my head that detail but can can find out I I would guess that that's the case um but I don't know thank you if I could just let yeah that the when the Flyers go out they're in the three languages that we usually send our flyers and information out about thank you um I did want to Circle back just because I had one note on specifically the expanded learning capacity um that particularly with elop there's the ability to serve all students who enroll in after school without a wait list sometimes there is a time like an enrollment period of just processing the enrollment but it's not a wait list like they're waiting for a space to open that's good um so that's kind of the reflection back then just have one slide kind of across all three of those areas for identifying some priorities moving forward that again came out of these discussions with management team and and others uh and many of these have come come up already in in today's meeting and and are visible elsewhere in District materials which is fantastic um so one is mtss again with a a particular focus on implementing tier one across all Sites so tier one services for all students and uh focus on consistency and I know this also came up earlier that there's sensitivity around what's available at some sites and what's not available at other sites so this may be one area to further explore that launching Community Schools implementation so this will be first year of the fiveyear implementation Grant uh which is fund provides funding for 10 sites um wellness centers at the tk8 and Middle School sites I believe that's a two-year Grant additional training on Universal Design for Learning and constructing meaning um as we um mentioned a little bit about a few minutes ago continuing to focus on Multicultural education and thinking about how to align books from the diverse book list with Community cultural events and celebrations and acknowledgements and lesson plans that can be provided the implementation of the ethnic studies curriculum with a pilot and an opportunity for kind of refining curriculum and and other aspects of implementation and then finally one thing that has um been completed uh is developing definitions for whole Child Development whole family development multilingual education Multicultural education and while those have been developed they haven't um they they've been shared in some ways so I don't want to minimize that but there hasn't been a large scale effort to um communicate them out or otherwise Implement them throughout the district so that's an additional kind of focus or priority for for the coming year so just in in wrapping up this is the I'm not going to review this in detail but it's kind of an expanded version of the gra graphic that we looked at earlier that lists out the individual goals and um I mentioned there's some additional detail in the in the memo but wanted to provide a brief update on some of the highlights of work completed over the past year and and what some of the priorities for the coming year are are shaping up to we to take any questions to the extent that uh that there are uh TR the floor Shelton thank you thank you for your um your hard work thank you to staff um for all the progress updates and just all the work that's behind this it's it's remarkable um I I don't have a Content qu um comment or question it's more about how like the lcap and the Strategic plan um you you talk about alignment and really this is to like the assistant superintendent the future assistant superintendent you know how um we can measure you know the like increased this increased capacity like are we going you know can we see like is it red to yellow or is it did we hit green or are we at 25% or 100% like I feel like and I I I think um quick question are we in the fourth year of the Strategic plan or the thir third yes it's adopted in June 2022 so 22 23 324 so we're really in the second year since implementing of implementation so yeah and so um just my experience in writing strategic plans and implementing and be held accountable for it it's just a really great way to like what is the gauge right so that we can celebrate or we can prioritize budgets or and and then just really understanding how the lcap you know aligns you know hey this is is Priority One and this one's priority two so that's just the way um because it's hard to see them kind of side by side when it feels like they're really they are integrated but we don't see it like sort of measured in an integrated way or I I don't maybe you do so suggestion if if I may um the work we've done this year uh we also we always include um our management team our site leaders but not just our site leaders um the people here in the district office that support the sites right because it's a collaborative effort so one of the things we did this year is we did we went through our implementation plan and heat mapped it to really and each department each kind of cohort of people heat mapped it just to see what they were feeling right and so we took some of that that feedback in order to see what were our plans for next year and also we actually just sat down in order for the transition you know fortunately for Sandra Garcia that's going to be stepping into the position she wrote the elap right so that's going to be an easy flow but that's something that we talked about planning for next year was also working with all our site leaders and our departments on how can we make that a process for them also because again the more we bring the two pieces together and talk about them jointly the more it's going to make sense to move the world for so is the heat mapping like to say I'm spending a lot of my time in this area or I think we are moving progress in this area what's the heat MPP so the heat mapping is because if you if are the implementation plan kind of went into more detail from the actual um strategic plan they're more specific actionable items so what it is is like we have the Middle School principal sit together how are you feeling that as a district we are doing on this item and it's give it a we haven't started it to we've talked about it to we've made some progress or we've completed that and then giving us some additional sometimes notes that help us really gauge how we're doing on on those so it sounds like you're in the process of understanding it and I just think there needs to be some again um measurement and I don't want to be like you know you've got 5% increase on belonging or this and that and then but I think from a strategic plan perspective at the end of the five years you're going to want to look back and say you know what do we have to roll over or what is like done celebrate and and sometimes if we're too squishy about it you don't even know when you get there so um this is just like the challenge with all this but it's it's it's exciting so a lot of a lot of progress thanks explain squishy soft not trust thank you for the presentation good to see you again it's been a while um and I mean I as a board or board member who was a part of the strategic planning you know a parent involved um like 10 years ago to them fast forward you know past things like ethnic studies and then see the implementation you know of how we we're moving um because even whether it's slow or you know whatever that amount is I know we're moving um and uh I think highlighting you know how we're moving would be good in the future so I look forward to you know the the how and how much uh but the fact that we are moving forward and the fact that we are pushing uh you know these what once upon a time we set you know whe was in 22 and since then with all the meetings um and seeing the implementation and then you know um hearing about the uh work that's being done in the classrooms um and in committees it's just uh it's great to see so thank you for supporting thank you for coming to present on that um and I look forward to continuing to you know support as a board member um not just the resolutions but you know Direction um and so in hearing more as uh from the community from the Strategic plan and um giving feedback to us to how we as a board can uh help move this forward um and then you know ending that right and then maybe starting a new um so anyways thank you I want to thank you I want to thank everybody that's been a part of this because I know a lot of work has been put in from the staff and also all the community that's participated in providing feedback and making sure that our strategic plan um reflects what we're actually doing um in our arusd community thank um trusty did you have fam did you have your hand up okay um anybody else okay I guess that's it thank you I'm just looking at the time and I'm just seeing um we have a lot on the agenda so um I'm going to I did I'm I better make yeah I I there I don't think there was any public comment okay so moving on to Teamsters 401 uh Teamsters is that anybody here uh seeing the Teamster's not here we'll move on to 402 California School Employees Association CCA Sharon uh she's not here either and she sends her regards 403 alark Educators Association area S I think it's a record um Sandra Rivera area president I don't want to make a long speech tonight because we already had our June board meeting but as this um board meeting is close so hopefully coming to an end I did want to take the time to recognize the working relationship that I've had with academic services this year and so thank you for all of the talks that we've had and the ability to look at some different things and move alumrock forward that'll benefit not only the children but the teachers and the community um we've worked really hard this year and we've gotten a new report card that will hopefully be coming out next year and that was a huge huge undertaking and um we've just had an awesome year so thank you for for making my first year as president but unfortunately I have to say goodbye but I know that you'll have a wonderful time as we're all envious of [Laughter] retirement and um we just look forward to you know keeping that working relationship with we now have Sandra Garcia and um thank you guys for all of the hard work that you're doing and the decisions that you're making the teachers are kind of here we're sporadically you know we're during our summer break I would love to say that we're on break but many of us are attending week-long conferences and everything to try to learn more and bring stuff back and to um I know that four hold on I can count there's five of us six of us five of us I that are going to Philadelphia that are working on behalf of Santa County representing us on the national level to bring um new education practices to the National level as well as what we do during the school year so see you guys in the few thank you all for your all your work and thank you Sandra um next uh we have the interim superintendent Dr amasan oh mam president uh that 404 the administrator oops I missed one sorry you're new good evening Bo president trustees um Dr alasan and Al Rock Community my name is z Rosales I'm the Pres principal and special assignment for the Multicultural and multilingual programs I'm also the um president of the alen rock administrators Association this evening I am honored to address you on behalf of a dynamic group of Educators and administrators who dedicate themselves tily to the school to our schools and Community there are promising advancements underway throughout alen Rock and our administrators remain dedicated to serving their individual sites and departments recently we concluded the 2023 2024 school year with memor celebrations promotions and great excitement summer school is now underway at six of our sites offering a diverse range of enrichment classes additionally we have a group of middle school students attending sounds State participating in the Jose Valdez summer program this year we've also introduced transportation services to all of our summer programs that is the first one for us meanwhile a group of um bilingual Educators and ministrators completed a two we intensive summer session at the Cent delu Modas at the University of Granada this experience provided significant learning opportunities and reaffirmed the value of our work in Alam for particularly with our dual language schools and all of our Lang all of our multilingual Learners we would like to express our gratitude to Miss Campbell for her dedicated years of service to the alen LA community and her unwavering support for All AA members your leadership has left a lasting impact on each of us as you embark on your retirement weeks and our warmest wishes for a happy and fulfilling future you will be greatly missed lastly as some of our members prepare for a well-deserved break others remain dedicated to supporting our ongoing summer initiatives we encourage everyone to take time to rest and recharge as we look forward to the approaching 24 25 school year thank you thank you uh Dr amasan I'm moving on to 405 board president um I just have some brief comments but a very important brief comment um as I have a special award that I would like to present to our assistant superintendent of instruction Barbara Campbell and um I'd like to also give credit where credited is due um had it been not the academic services staff behind this um I I I I think um you know we would have been we would have been missing something um if we didn't so on behalf of all of us as well is your awesome team at academic Services I present you this commitment and dedication Award presented to you for 39 years of loyal dedication an unwavering commitment in the alok Union School um District in retirement quote in retirement don't forget your vitamin C and vitamin C is sea uh moving on to 46 Board of Trustees Communications and comments um see none one bam you know just got move on two quick ones you know well three quick ones first of all I want to uh you know I I said my farewells to to to Barbara we're going to miss you this is your last board meeting ever so you know I think you're about to say hallelujah when the clock strikes midnight uh I want wish trusty Flores Shelton a happy 50th birthday birthday today and you know tomorrow so the meeting wrap up by midnight and I wasn't aware you know also I want to you know wish a happy 50th birthday to Mr Shelton as well you know that's a milestone we all don't hit 50th all the time which just other than that uh first of all I had a a good little meeting with uh County Board president Al Alberta over the issue of uh District over payments to Sela so I did forward Mr Chang's budget slides uh for her to review and you know we'll hope that in the hopes that uh since the County Board president is also the County Board member representing Alan Ro I hope that we can work together to uh you know make sure that we get our fair share in selfa funding and then the second you know uh last Thursday uh you know uh Dr Amazon and uh the teachers of the painter dual language uh Vietnamese dual language program uh had a meeting with uh East Side trusty Von lay the founder of the Moon festivals I'm happy to announce that you know uh since I'm also you know part of the going you know part of the painter appearance uh at this year's this uh this year's Moon Festival at Andrew Hill in September you know happy to announce that we're going to be part of a you know uh partner with Franklin McKinley's uh windmill Springs Elementary Vietnamese dual language imersion for the you know uh first ever uh dual Viet you know the Dual Vietnamese language immersion schools program at the Moon Festival so it's you know uh it's going to be a wonderful event and you I hope that uh you know more details to come but I hope that we'll all make it out there on September 14th at Andrew Hill High School thank you very much thank you um so we could make her day by extending till 1 or three in the morning or or we could hurry up huh so we'll see okay trusty thank you um first of all again thank you uh uh Barbara for your commitment to our children I mean you walked the different hallways in our district um and I know that you're going to be missed you will be missed definitely by me you know I'm like who's going I mean I know Sandra will do great you know and she'll sit here but you know we'll definitely miss you um and you know thank you for just all the things you've done um and most importantly for caring you know that you can't like learn and so that heart that you have you know I'll definitely miss that um and you know thank you for doing this not just because 39 years come on I me that's definitely you know um something that uh someone would do that you know cares deeply about this community so um I know that you show that over and over and over um so don't go too far you know and all the expertise you have please continue to share you know and I know you have um but hopefully you don't change your phone number um thank you again welld deserved um award and recognition um and you know I want to um just kind of briefly mention um some of the things in our community you know I think when we as elmrock are highlight highlighted in any way shape or form um it's important right especially the good ones right that we um highight all the amazing um work that is happening here at Alam Rock because there is and so um I I was invited to be on a panel um from the spotlight and uh to discuss about the opportunity gaps a deeply divide in the San Jose schools um to not just discuss about the realities you know in our district and how unfortunately we're underfunded compared to other districts um in the much need here but also highlight the good things that are happening here even though we're there right um so it was an honor to be there um and then just you know as a leader within the community um you know at the state level at the county level i w bore you but you know having conversations with leaders who again care and want to make sure that we're doing what you know we're supposed to and also seeing where they can help in getting us more um getting our children in our community more so looking forward to continue to have those conversations and then just overall you know as a board um you know I would push us to you know as as hard as it is to be here late and as hard as you know as much as we we want to go home um you know not to shut down our community or you know the voice um that's what we're here for that's what we're elected for to listen so um you know I want to just reiterate that and um you know in instead of closing down you know taking a little bit maybe an extra minute or a second to see if there's anybody that um is wants to talk or wants to voice something versus rushing it because we already heard for especially our youth that said I am nervous you know maybe she wouldn't have spoken or you know how do we become more welcoming and open so I look forward to doing that more of that um so thank you board president and happy birthday any other comments seeing none um we'll move on to um 601 and I'm going to have uh Dr alasan read this because I believe she brought to to the board this was uh on behalf of the our bonds team um and so this is a resolution um a resolution um to I'm sorry a resolution to the Board of Trustees um ordering an election to authorize issuance of school bonds establishing specifications with election order and requesting consolidation with other elections occurring on November 5th 2024 whereas the alok Union School District um The District in Santa Clara County State of California is committed to providing quality education to all its students and whereas in order to achieve funding in the near future to continue to address critical facilities needs and provide all district Stu students and Facilities conducive to high levels of academic achievement and safe healthy environments the board wishes to submit to the voters of the district and measure authorizing the issuance of General obligation bonds for school facilities and improvements and whereas on November 7th 2000 the voters of the State of California approved prop 39 which amended articles 13A of the California article to allow for the levy of an ad valerium property taxes for the payment of bonded indebtedness of a school district Community College District or County Office of Education approved by at least 55% of the voters voting on such proposition and whereas the passage of prop 39 the strict accountability and local school construction Bond of 2000 being California Ed code section 15264 in the following um act became operative and whereas in the Judgment of the board it is advisable to call an election pursuant to um the ACT to submit to the electors of the district the question whether bonds of the district shall be issued and sold pursuant to the authority of article 16 section 18 of the California Constitution and article 13A together with act and law for the purposes authorized by law and described in appending a here to uh full text of bond measure and whereas under the act the election may be ordered a primary or general election a regularly scheduled local election at which all of the electors of the district are entitled to vote or a Statewide special election upon 2third vote of the board and whereas the board wishes to call an election in the district pursuant to the law on November 5th 2024 which is the date of the Statewide general election and pursuant to Ed code section 15121 and elections code section 10400 and the following two request consolidation with any and all other elections held in the district on such date and to request the S Clair voter registar voters the county regar to perform election services for the district and whereas in connection with the calling of a bond election and in accordance with education section 15 Education Code section 1 1500 sub paragraph C the board has obtained reasonable and informed projections of assess property valuations that take into consideration projections if any have been made available of assess property valuations made by the Santa Clara County Assessor and whereas in connection with the calling of a bond election the board has been presented with the information about related estimated property tax rates and such information shall be presented to the district voters in accordance with election code section 9401 and in the form of the tax rate statement set forth as appendix C here 2 and whereas furthermore the board has been presented with the information regarding its currently outstanding bonded indebtedness and the total tax rate per 100,000 estimated to be leveled in fiscal year 2425 and based on reasonable assess valuation growth estimates it currently estimates that bonds issued pursuant to this measure will extend for additional years but not increase the to estimated tax rate for bonds of the district above the estimated Levy for fiscal 24 fiscal year 2425 and whereas pursuant to federal law federal tax law in particular being United States income tax regulations Section 1.15 D2 the board desires to declare its official intention that this time um I'm sorry at this time that if the measure submitted to the voters here under is successful and the bonds are issued pursuant to such measure that attends to reimburse from said Bond proceeds expenditures if any made by District prior to the date of issuance of said bonds for the purposes described to the measure now therefore the Board of Trustees of alrock Union Elementary School District does hereby resolve determine and order as follows section one recal findings the foregoing recital are true and correct section two call for election the board hereby orders an election and submits to the electors of the district the question of whether General obligation bonds of the district shall be issued and sold in maximum principle of 70 million for the purpose of financing the acquisition construction improving and equipping of the district facilities as more fully described in the ballot measure approved under section four and attached share to as appendix a full text of bond measure and appendix B abated text of bond measure and paying all cost in incident there too this resolution constitutes the order of the district to call such an election and shall constitute the specifications of election order pursuant to Ed code section 5322 Section 3 election date the date of the election shall be November 5th 2024 and such bond election shall be held solely with the boundaries of the district the boundaries of the district have not changed since District's last election the election is requested be Consolidated pursuant to section nine hereof section four purpose of the election ballot measure move approval please wait I just want her to make sure that the public knows that there's going to be another if we vote for this another Ta on their property bill but please wait thank you just move the purpose of the election shall be for the voters in the district to vote on bond measure a full copy of which is attached here to is a pendings a and marked appending a full talk full text of bond measure and the full text of the measure containing the question of whether the district shall issue General obligation bonds for the purpose stated herein together with the accountability requirements of article 13A and the requirements of section 15272 the act the full text of the measure which commences with the heading full text of bond measure and includes all of the texts thereafter on appendix a shall be printed in the voter information pamphlet provided to voters with such measure designation as is assigned to the measure by the county official County election officials the county election official is permitted to insert the assigned measure letter as appropriate in full text of the measure and other voting materials as required by Ed code sections 5322 and 151 22 elections code section 13247 in accordance with election code 1 13119 the abbreviated statement and of the measure to appear on the ballot label is attached sh to his appendix B and is marked as appendix B abbreviated form of bond measure the president of the board and the superintendent or interim superintendent are hereby separately authorized and directed to make any changes to the text of the bond measure as a describe Heron to conform to any requirements of the law or County registar to changes in appc legal Provisions to address word count limitations and upon advice of its legal counsel any such changes shall be shall be directed in writing by the superintendent or interim superintendent to the County registar Section Five Authority for election The Authority for ordering the election is contained in section um of of the section code article uh 16 section 18 B of the California Constitution and paragraph B subsection three of article 13A The Authority for the specification of the election is contained in section 5322 of the education code in order for this measure to be successful it must be approved by at least 55% of the voters of the district voting on The Measure section six proceeds for school facilities the board certifies that the proceeds from the sale of bonds will be used only for the purposes specified in article 13A Section 1 B3 as further specified in appendix a and not for any other purpose including teacher and administ rator salaries and other operating expenses further as required by article 13A the board hereby certifies that it has evaluated safety class size and information technology needs in developing the list of school facility projects set forth in appendix a section seven covenants of the board upon arri upon approval of the bonds by the electorate accountability measures as required by article 13A section 15278 of the Act and the government code section 53410 in the event 55% of the voters vote voting in the district approve the bonds the board shall a conduct an annual independent performance audit to ensure that funds have been expended only on the projects listed in appendix a b conduct an annual independent Financial audit of the proceeds from the sale of the bonds until all proceeds have expended for the school facilities projects listed in appendix a c establish and appoint members to an independent citizens oversight Committee in accordance with sections 52781 15280 and 15282 of the ACT D apply bonds proceeds only to the specific purposes stated in the P Proposition E thank you Dr alasan so now I will take a motion and the reason why it was being read is because so that the public understands that this is going to be another Bond uh do I have a motion move approval okay do I have a second a second okay uh do I have anybody for public comment uh okay good good evening my name is Del I'm one of the parents here at um Alan Rock um I'm very hesitant about this because uh one of the things is we do not have a parent superintendent we are going to be having um closing of schools and we're now talking about improving facilities for clues that might be closing or may not be closing so it's kind of it's a lot to happen in September October November superintendent closing the schools and a bond about something may or may not happen at a child school because we're still talking about closing six schools and where does these facilities clothing I do not want to spend money where it does not need to be spent you know I don't want to approve a school just I will close in the next year or two because we're not going to be closing this fall but we're going to be closing the schools after that starting the 25 26 school year so be very you're asking a lot from this community right now you're asking a lot for to be so much so compact in such a short amount of time and as I mean usually I do vote for bonds for Alan Rock but we also had one not that long ago we had one two years ago and we had a facilities one before so how can we get the parents on this when at the same time we're going to be announcing all these closures and still we're going to have a $10 million gap so please think about this one especially how are you going to be able to sell it when at the same time you're going to be telling parents sorry we're going to be closing schools thank you thank you any more public comment okay seeing none I will take the trustees comments uh vice president GTO I'm incredibly torn uh I understand that we have a lot of need and obviously have to fix them but I'm also concerned that first of all how this came about and it is a recommendation in box usually these um matters are dealt with by the superintendent as well as the board and it's it's something that the board has to own because we're going out there and saying hey hand us over 70 million doll and the public has to be comfortable with that we ultimately are going to have to respond to them as a board um and so it was very surprising to see it here appreciate the information that it came from the bond team it's a little bit different than I've um just usually have seen these bonds uh come to the board um uh one brief question to the Administration has any polling been done in advance of of this of bringing the recommendation forward I can I refer that to assistant superintendent Chang trusty con um yes so your question is was there any planning done for this bonds um no we did do any planning for this Bond but uh just from historical past I mean our community has been very supportive um as you can see this Bond require 55% um historically um our measures have passed over 7 70% so we're pretty comfortable with uh without doing the polling at this time so um I'm U so thank you for that response appreciate the permission I've seen that over the course of time we've given the ERS some time uh to from one bond to the other so that we can avoid that voter fatigue tax fatigue that will set in we we have very good voters here that have been very supportive as uh CBO mentioned we are we we've had bonds with very high levels I want to make sure that that continues to be the case but we have VOR G out 179 million measure J in measure J in 2008 179 million measure 12 125 million measure I in 2016 2022 we went forward just two years ago with 125 million bucks and now we're going out to the voters again now I am very supportive I've been I've always been very supportive but I'm very concerned given the fact that East Side Union was snapped back by voters and uh their their uh measures were pushed back and they did not succeed we've been seeing that and so I'm concerned that if we go out there two years after we're going to wind up getting that same response by our voters who said you just came to us in 2022 you're about to shut half the schools down and you're asking us forur 70 million 77 million something I'm incredibly concerned as a result of that um and so yeah those are my comments thank you um any other trustees uh trustee Gina I think the um only thing I'll mention you know I supported the other Bond and that we had before to put it on um and obviously we're we're in need um but you know I think our community um our elmrock community we had gone you know down here for a bit there we were doing a lot better and unfortunately you know I um right now I don't know that you know our community is feeling heard is feeling respected and so that you know is really going to have an impact um you know I I really wish we were where we were at the last Bond I think we were doing great I think you know uh we had um you know people willing to also knock on doors and make sure that you know our community where we were at and what this was going to uh do for our community and we have the support right now I'm not feeling the same way um and and that's really reflective on on our board so um I just wanted to highlight that you know it doesn't mean that I'm not going to support this but I think it's important that we reflect as a board where we were at when we passed that previous Bond where we're at now um and that we hear our community that's clearly speaking to us that's clearly um telling us you know slow down you know what's going on um there's a lot of surprises there's a lot of pess you're asking for a lot so um yeah I mean I I don't know you know I can't tell the future where our community if they will support or not but um I think we need to make sure that we pay attention to what we're doing as a board um in order to hopefully get the support that we that our community needs um and that's it uh you know I'll you know I'll I'll second that comment to I mean uh normally I'm a supporter of bonds and is someone who's visited every school in the district at least once every year uh yes there you know I there's no denying that there there are some very real material needs uh at the same time uh you know I'm keenly aware that uh you know uh on on certain major budgetary issues that there is a uh deep divide on this board as it currently sits and so uh oh boy uh I mean I you know uh again I I I kind on one hand you know I mean there's always a case that you know the board you know the board on the question of the on the question of this magnitude you know uh perhaps the you know the better part of valor is to you know uh let the voters have the final say but I admit you know in a sense I agree with you know my my colleagues that you know uh that you know there there is a you know deep deep divide on this board you know and I I want to say not because that we we I think that we all agree on the same goal it's just that we are having deep deep differences on how to achieve the same goal so on that I you know yield the I'll yield the floor M presid thank you trusty um Shelton thank you I'm supporting the administration on this one um one um I do think this is the the voters will tell us which way it goes um I think you look at our schools you see the need and I would just um you know given that we've got some of the some of the legal stuff behind us and we can move uh forward uh to issue the bonds well if we get approval to issue the bonds the money is there to prioritize how we how this board will spend it um for the future not you know on schools that would potentially um be closing so um it's an investment that I think the community needs to decide whether it's worthy and given the history um the community's support um I think we should let him have a a shot at it and it's also a general election so I think that's also um potentially in our favor TR yeah um I appreciate the comments about transparency and he in the community um I think that this came to us essentially out of roof um at least to myself and so I'm I'm very concerned about that wish should have been more a process that have been develop that we have been able to uh have more input and um yeah urance transparency transpar transparency seems like it just showed up on the agenda I come from from from the bond Department I'm not not necess comfortable with that in that approach but it is what it is um additionally we just sold 4 million bonds we authorizing issurance of $40 million bonds last month um as soon as those those bonds are sold the interest starts occuring the people have to start paying those off I'm um I'm I'm I'm hesitant about going out there and ask me folks who are having difficulty staying in their homes more and more people are out in the streets um it's it's concerning to say hey take take on more I get it we have the need but to have it back to back so so quick is concerning to me I would I would give the voters and the residents and taxpayers a little bit more breathing room so that they don't revolt and they don't go push back on us and then we wind up in a really bad spot we have the parcel tax also that we have to take into account the more we throw on them the more of an opportunity that we might wind up uh getting them pushing back and so those are all uh issues that I've T that I've taken into account as I've been you know struggling with this it's a it's a big struggle I realize the need but I also think it's too soon and it might wind up leading to V fatigue where we we will wind up doing away with that 70 plus% uh support that we've historically had in rock and so I'm I'm torn I'm I'm I'm thinking about it but I'm very concerned I think it's too soon uh we just had measure Us in 2022 to bring something back right away while have we even talked to other districts that's a big question as well how many districts are going to be throwing stuff out there parcel tax Bond measures if we have every District going out there such as San Jose Evergreen e side Union uh and ourselves and then the water I don't know who else might throw something on there uh the voters are probably going to turn around St up with and is all coming out us one so those are all questions that need to be had in advance uh to determine if in fact to make sense for for us to go forward and to just you on the agenda I think that some more up front work could have been done to uh ensure that ensure the success of this meure which is as I said very much needed but I think it's too soon thank you um I'm gonna say my comments and then we're going to take a vote um I agree with the the comment that was made from the public and I think it's too soon um and we're closing schools let's do that first um the taxpayers have been very generous with this District but um at this point in time it just seems like a lot and I won't be voting for it so all in favor uh to pass please raise your hand so two in favor opposed two opposed abstentions one 22 one motion does not pass going on to 602 uh approve Rodan Builder Inc to inform restroom upgrades motion to approve okay so I heard uh truste uh excuse me I heard VP and then uh second for uh trusty era loera uh can I have public comment on this seeing no public comment any trustee comments seeing no trusty comments let's move for the vote all in favor raise your hand 5 Z motion passes moving on to 60 approve okay 603 so uh I have a motion and a second so do I see any public comment uh seeing that there's none any trustee comment seeing that there's none uh let's go to the vote all in favor of approving uh 603 raise your hand 5 Z most passes unanimously trusty Chavez a really quick question because the motion was made by trusty who was a seconder uh BP uh K okay just want to clarify okay um so moving on to instructional Services 701 review and approv 2024 2025 local control accountability plan do I have a motion move to approve okay I have a motion in a second any public comment on this item uh seeing no public comment trustee comments seeing no trustee comments let's move for the vote all in favor raise your hand uh 5 Z motion passes unanimously moving on to section eight adoption of the district propos president I'd like to move approval of item 8.01 with uh the following three amendments as a package uh first of all uh you know to amend the budget to uh increase the uh you know to to adjust the enrollment projection upward by 117 students so Mr Chang uh uh in his presentation mentioned an enrollment projection of 741 so you know that you know that would move the uh projection to 7518 uh Second Amendment would pair uh paired consolidation you know in the budget Savings Plan adopted by the board and Incorporated in the budget to the consolidation of five elementary school sites one middle school with the option of converting a middle school to a dual immersion 68 middle school and uh one reorganization of a dual emersion tk8 and to direct the Administration to have the Consolidated sites uh be leased at or as close to market rate as possible and prohibiting leasing to uh Charter Schools you know by October 31st 2025 and Madam president if I may uh make you know make a speech regarding these amendments uh to explain the Amendments prior to taking public comments yes please thank you uh so here's the thing so uh you know the I will point to first of all the uh enrollment headcount presented in in as part of this board booklet the enrollment headcount is I believe off my top 7582 so I part of it is uh you know the en our enrollment headcount seems to be backing the head of projections and you know if I may you know Mr Chang's budget presentation uh at you know you know at the end of you know at the end of you know for the 2324 school year we were projected to have a enrollment projection of 7376 we exceeded that so I you know so I I think that uh we're this district is leaving some money on the table because at looks like our head count is uh although we still have declining enrollment our enrollment projection seems to be beating projection our headcount is seems to be beating projections and I think that our projections should be adjusted upward to reflect the uh you know reflect our head count a little closer and you know just just to explain you know this does translate into money there so uh you know and using using the calculations or I should say the assumptions provided the budget booklet uh so for for the upcoming school year uh local you know let's take the local control funding formula with a 1.07% increase in the cost of living adjustment uh that's an entitlement of $15,900 per student so this amounts to another 1 million $1.76 million in 2025 26 with a 2.93% cola factored for a you know LC for an lcff entitlement of 15,000 $675 per student this amounts to an additional 1.83 million uh so uh in a sense uh you know this is this is part one here of triangle plan to how you say uh address the the you know our budget situation but in a way that you know uh how do you say uh save schools save jobs preserves facilities for especially at our middle schools so an adjust you know slage you know uh uh enrollment projection that tracks closer to headcount actually would would produce you know uh $1.76 million in savings starting Monday and $11.83 million in Savings in 2526 uh the you know and further I want to base this enrollment level uh you know speaking of uh talking to the skoy board president when I did speak to her about Sela uh I was actually alerted that at uh downtown College Prep Alam Rock uh was projecting an increase uh a net pickup of1 students so from an enrollment of 240 to 351 over a 5year period starting next year due to their expectation of picking up those students from our schools so uh you know if I may read for the record you know actually the transcript from the May 15th sco board meeting uh when County Board president berda asked uh Pete settel Meier who was the then C Chief Executive Officer of downtown College Prep Alan Rock why he thought why he expected an increase in enrollment after was it four straight four straight decline four straight years of declining enrollment at DCP uh so I will quote him uh I think understanding what's going on in the alumrock area we know that there are opportunities within the alumrock school district and a lot of our students are driven by the local area so we feel like there's some change there I think it's important to know that we are projecting those numbers we have downsizes to where we think we are going to be for the 2425 school year in that projection we felt like we were conservative in the fact that there would be that small incremental growth so I think that you know uh it's obvious that downtown College Prep is expecting to take you know take up approximately $1.7 million in what should be uh Alam Rock money so if we close you know nine schools off the bat uh you know I think you know it's it's looks like it's clearly a a giveaway to downtown college prep so it's for those you know for for those two reasons based on our head count and based upon uh you know uh the enrollment projections that downtown College Prep provided to skoy that you know I you know I'm proposing an amendment up an upward amendment to our enrollment projections so that's part one that brings that brings forward $1.76 million in savings uh in the 24 25 year if I may finish this if I may finish the speech and then I'll there's three parts yes yes so I'm going to get to the second part here so the second part is the is the consolidation that I you know that's the second uh so using again using the budget numbers provided by Mr Chang and the budget Solutions plan uh you know this pairing back uh Ro closely approximate School consolidation option option six that was presented on May 21st so that would provide another $ 7.62 million in savings so uh so basically if I add up so basically in 2526 uh when combined with the upward adjustment in enrollment and uh the 7 point and the number of school consolidations uh we would save 9.45 million in 2526 now when combined with you know the 1.76 million in deficit reduction via uh incre you know an adjusted upward enrollment projection uh this budget plan actually uh proposes a net Savings of 11.28 million in the same time period uh compared to the uh budget savings adoption plan adopted on May 21st which would produce an estimated 10.07 million based upon again uh you know uh the pro uh projections provided in uh the May 21st budget savings plan and so the last part is as I've said uh the direction to lease Consolidated School sites by October 31st 2025 uh now I did ask Mr Cheng via email about rent district rental income so uh just just for the board and the public to know uh the district received $632,500 $1,833 for uh the former Miller Elementary School which is kit prize and Hartwood and uh have an at an average of $428,000 in change and uh possible annual rent for Elementary School site and recognizing that until the leases are signed we can't project Revenue right but you know conservative conservatively if we can have something in the ball you know if there's something into ballpark between 2.14 and 2.77 million in uh unrestricted rental income and this is why I stress the date of October 31st 2025 uh you know uh as Mr Chang stated at at the last board meeting uh even with all the budget savings plan that we've adopted we're still going back in 2627 having to cut another $4 million uh and let me be clear we we this District cannot cut itself to fiscal uh solvency we have to at some point think outside the box in terms of Revenue growth that isn't linked to Ada and I think that you know this is a a a start and hopefully hopefully uh you know uh you know if you know if all goes well we you know there is I I you know there is the potential of uh possibly averting Cuts in the third year out provided that uh the district is able to lease these uh lease the Consolidated School sites but but I you know let me conclude that at the end of the day this is a this is a shared this is a we're all stretching kind of budget here right so it's sort of like uh there are sacred cows here turn being turned into big Ms right I mean there's yes there's there's a consolidation of schools I want to make clear that uh you know closing of schools is something that's abhorent to every bone in my body and no no I'm going to and yet you know at you know uh and I'll be quite clear I mean I would I would rather resign from the board than have to close nine schools that's that you know that's because I I believe that there is a better way a more humane way something that preserves uh you know keeps our children in our schools preserves jobs preserves uh millions in Irreplaceable Middle School equipment if we close three middle schools and so uh you know it's my hope that uh my colleagues will adopt these budgets with these three amendments and you know again it's a package it's a triangle plan right we all have to you know we all have to we all have you know they link together and you know we're hoping that uh you know we we we again at the end of the day uh a more Humane and better way to consolidate as opposed to you know cut cutting nine schools without any you know uh without any hope of growth and having to come back two years later for more Cuts you know uh you know this is a some pain and some gain proposal you know other you know as opposed to what what what's on the table which is you know all pain and no gain uh so with that uh thank you madam president so with that uh you know I'll use my time for you know yet public comment and then questions and comments from my uh honorable colleagues uh just I mean excuse me trusty Flor said she wanted to go you want him to go first okay um BP I just want to clarify if there was a motion that was made oh I motion I made the motion I'll second okay um and so I heard you asking okay go ahead and then I'll go go ahead you no you yeah I thought she said no no she said oh now she wants to go okay go she went and then I'll go um oh Madam president are we gonna take public comment first or we yes but I see public but I will take public comment at this moment seeing none trusty comments there you go um so thank you uh trusty fam um so I I'm not understanding um and I not that you need to explain it again but given the the facts of the Ada enrollment going down with they were projected to go down and then their actuals go down I don't understand or hear the justification for moving enrollment up um nope I'm sorry I got the floor it's not a question I'm just stating the facts as um shown year after year what are we in 24 12 years back there has not been one uptick and I'm again I'm not trying to um be Debbie Downer I just need facts to help um explain and I to for myself and so you've you've made your case um so point one of your plan doesn't um and I it doesn't work for me and I also think that the Community engagement plan that this board just passed um basically does not help um projected enrollment um in any way either um I also think that um we need to adopt this budget one year at a time um and so market rate leases by um I would I would want to see uh what what we have in Hand by December of this year by January of this year so we can make build that into different um again second interims and third interims so I appreciate the the creativity I appreciate um but I I and I also know that you reached out to me um regarding some aspects of this and I hope I'm the only one um given Brown act and so I I thought about it um uh you know and wanted to I really want to support sort of creativity and that's why in the community engagement um discussion I was hoping that time not politics not election day was what would help us get out to the community the market and find out who would be interested Ed in using our facilities um so I just want to say that I think um I can't support this because it doesn't put us in a financial position um to to not have a qualified budget and um but I appreciate the the creativity uh did you want uh it was uh trusty Corina era laera and then trusty fam okay thank you wow um so I mean so many things come to me and one of them is taking me back to May 21st when we all sat here for hours and some of our members of our community um s Clair County Office of Education Francy Heim came and hopefully I'm saying it right came and spoke to us um and at that point we made a very difficult decision um you know we as elected leaders are here not to do easy things um and that day we did something that was not easy and now to hear one board member kind of moving us and to kind of delete that time you know for me like this is not a game the time here on this board and the members that come out and come to our meetings it's not a game for me and to hear just you know in this conversation where we had not just that moment on May 21st but then the time where Cora came to and presented to us and at that point asked does anybody have any questions any comments maybe another idea but here we are on June 27th where we need to pass this uh this um where hopefully we're passing this budget that was presented to us at the last meeting that I've been listening to that I've been asking questions about and then all of a sudden for this to be presented is me like my mind is just like wow you know um this month definitely our board um our our majority on this board has really um highlighted some concerns for me um and you know naturally and obviously I'm only the minority but you know I want to make sure that the record reflects that I will absolutely not support that you know again facts the truth right numbers things that that we've seen as uh Flores Shelton highlighted it's important to go on the facts not just what we believe or what we'd like to see and we've gotten some direction from Santa clar County Office of Education we're being watched we need to make decisions not on possibilities but on what we have in front of us so I think unfortunately it's pretty clear you know the majority and where the majority is going but I want the the uh record to reflect that I will absolutely not support that um and that I will support what we've been as a board since May 21st the decision we've been making and the presentations we've had to what I was hoping is pass the budget that we had presented here um that was already uh presented to us um and that we've been discussing on the decision that was not easy on May 21st but that we made as a board and that gets to be reflected on uh moving forward um and that's it for now thank you trusty uh DP uh we bringing forward this idea um it's part of process we are all here providing our ideas they're voted up they're vot it down and you just simply continue to work with each other there's no need to to but I I am I am uh I want to thank you for bringing forward the the numbers that you did we have projections that were uh provided to us in our in the budget uh meeting it's a very serious numbers and I I take them U very I'm I acknowledge it however I do see that uh the current enrollment that we have been given item 1207 doesn't uh jive with what we were provided and I get it these are just projections they're provided by demographic study from a long time ago um uh and so they're not going to be 100% but it is a significant difference between what we have here in the budget presentation and what we actually have and so it's it's with those numbers that I'm I'm I'm I'm keeping an open mind and I'm uh wanting to hear more because as I stated in that very difficult meeting um that I made the motion to go ahead and adopt the plan that was brought forward by our ass superintendent um that um and I I actually asked hey if we go with this one does that help us begin the process of attempting to address our budgetary issues I was and the response that I got yeah it's one of the options and so you know obviously you're always going to want to go for the most but it's it's something that that gets us in the process and that in future years we'd be able to continue to to work towards addressing that the position issues once we shut down the schools once we say goodbye to them they're gone and it's going to be difficult to figure out how to retain them or how to ever you know get them back and so with that said I I I'm I'm looking I I would I'm supportive of a plan that takes us and takes this incremental approach rather than taking one shot at it as I mentioned last time I said hey let's go for the the that option that uh is not as much as what we ultimately went for um I was I I made the motion it failed um but if there's an opportunity to revisit with new information and why not consider it have a robust discussion and and and and then make the decisions that we uh do our best for for the district ourselves oh you f then I'll go yes first of all I'd like to you know reut you know pressy floor Shelton here first I never said enrollment you know is an up what I'm saying is our headcount is beating projections our headcount is coming higher than our projections uh again you know we're projected you know uh to be at 7093 for the 2425 year based upon Mr Chang's uh uh budget presentation and yet our headcount is 7582 I mean that's a you know I don't want to you know but a difference of 500 students at $155,000 a student you know uh I don't have a master's of Business Administration but uh at $15,000 student you know thank good you know long time ago it used to be calendars here but 15 so I would say we Sock It Away instead of spend it that would be my still have the floor doing that okay one point you know one you know um you know there's always a risk and reward in in in maintaining a school district right and the thing is I think as my my colleague Tristy Quintero says you you know we run the risk of losing students for good that's why I I mentioned uh the skoy board meeting of May 15 and that's because you have a charter school called downtown College CL alen Rock stating to the County Board of Education that they're planning on picking up that same number of students when we close nine schools uh the problem is at that point we're not generating the savings we're losing the savings that gets eaten you know that money you know that enrollment goes to downtown college prep and that's money out of District funds so what I'm saying is we have a what I'm proposing is a a right siiz consolidation I never I'm even I conce I am conceding in my plan to a consolidation as painful as it may be and part of it is that you know my plan you know um is is trying to preserve three additional School sites you know one you know in in some total one Elementary and two additional middle schools part of that is our middle schools have uh equipment that can't be replaced uh I mean was it for Verizon LS if you shut down uh if one shuts down three middle schools uh there's a very reasonable chance that you're going to lose at least one if not two Verizon learning Labs that will not be that will be mo all never to be used by students and uh I can say uh if you close three middle schools that means that U possibly the the the band room at George Middle School where did Joseph George lean mean green lean green mean drum line practices or you know the the the historic Jazz Band Room at Matson gets closed uh you know that's equipment that this district is not in a position to replace H immediately so uh I think that uh you know this is a plan that keeps that equipment in use for our kids uh keeps our enrollment so that money stays in the district uh you know saves jobs say you know again uh you know three more schools that's 60 more teaching positions that's was it uh six more uh front office staff six more cafeteria workers six more custodians you know uh e you know I I you know many many pair of professionals and you know I'd like to rebut uh you know truste Herrera loera's point I agree with you this is not a game uh you know my G you know my only concern is um protecting this District's assets protecting jobs making sure that we Ser our kids and yes I want to see this District get to uh its Centennial in 2030 but the to accuse me of playing games when you know you're the one proposing to close even more schools I mean gez at the end of the day I mean uh you know I hate to say this but what viciousness sometimes I mean uh you may disagree with me but uh you know I challenge you if you got a better idea let's see it because you know I'm going to make this clear there is savings there is at the very least 7.62 million dollar of savings and know and you know potentially 11.28 million you know based you know uh based on a more accurate enrollment projection based on our headcount you know we you know that's an 11 you know that's more savings than you know than the all pain and no gain budget Savings Plan here so I think that you know we achieve you know we achieve savings but we also save more schools we save more teachers we save more staff and yes we save more equipment that we have no hope of replacing in the foreseeable future if our Middle School closed okay I said that I was next then I'll take your comment okay um I do have a question for Mr CA and thank you for doing all the numbers um trusty fam and thank you Mr CA because it's not easy because you're guesstimating and so him bringing up that we do have more numbers and if you times 500 times 15,000 per student that's $7.5 million and um I'm not saying that's delay this but I'm saying um is there a time Factor here that it has to be done tonight uh or because we have another board meeting in two days could it be done on Saturday and we get the numbers I because he has a point um isn't it two days that we have the the board thingy not on my oh maybe the what the study session yeah it's in July put it on the wrong okay okay on the next board me because we're want but anyways can the board get those because to do those projections um and if we do have more um students it does make sense that we actually if you look at it you're gonna have seven and a half more million dollars I'm just saying I don't I'm I'm not wanting to postpone it just to postpone I want to see if there's another option if we do close one school list because I know we voted to close that many schools but if we don't have to if one school less and because we do have the Adas why not give it a a second look Mr C do you have thank you sorry about the yeah thank you board president um well first of all I do want to inform the board that there is a statutory deadline of uh July 1st for us to submit uh the the approved budget to the um to the county offed for their review um and there's other serious ramification um if we were to make all those revisions that you laid out um first of all there's a lot of them and I can't quantify them um and have staff be able to make those revisions in a span of two or three days um to bring back a revised uh uh budget for the board to consider um another um significant issue is that the lcap that you previously approved um has to be improved in Ted with the budget so if the budget is not approved tonight the lcap needs to be brought back and revised to reflect all the revisions that you had laid out um just just right now um so those are the major uh ramification of not getting um the budget approved tonight um we also um I don't want to put them on the spot but we also have colleagues from the county office of Ed tonight uh Miss Francine Heim who's a fiscal expert and uh Miss Susan ad who's the director of fiscal um director of District business and advisory services from the county office of Ed here tonight um if you have any question in terms of what those ramification of and what steps the county office might take um if this budget is not approved tonight um so I'll yield it back to you okay so wait a minute so trusty Flores sheon was and then Cina and then whoever else wants to go after I'll I'll I'll check later thank you um board president uh Chavez I think um you're on to something in terms of process and um trusty fam um I think there is another idea and I will ask staff to answer it because I think maybe me being the messenger of it it falls on Jeff ears but I will ask um either the county office or the administration we approve the budget as as proposed is a possibility and then that's approving the budget it's predicated on the closure of x amount of schools but as the as the months go on and if our Revenue if if actual ad changes that gets reflected in the first interim or second interim so we do we have points in time in this year before we decide it's six schools it's or it is the actual nine schools or if our budget starts showing that it's turning can we make changes along the way and even up to March 1 say let's look at the budget again how are we doing maybe it's eight maybe it's seven maybe by some Revenue great idea that comes through we are able to only close three School whatever that is is this next year an opportunity to do that we are we approving the budget and have an ability to change our actuals during the year yes in terms of the timing um my recommendation is that you know the the least disruptive pass or passages is is to approve the budget as it is we do have a 45-day revision um where the board can provide these input and give us the administration more time to incorporate some of these ideas into um next year's budget and multi-year projection um this is not a final decision um the board always has the authority to make any adjustment um anytime during the year right um if those numbers improve then they they you know the board has the authority to do so um but we're building this budget or developing this budget based on the best information that we have currently going back to enrollment as I stated in the uh June 13 board meeting um you know our our district tends to um to increase enrollment uh as the year goes on um but the information that we're using is based on the demographic study I also did a comparison in terms of where we were at at the beginning of the year and the beginning of the year our enrollment projection was very close to the demographic study we were at 7,41 the demographic study shows 7,376 so uh we were very close throughout the year that's been the trend of this districts um is to get some more students back but at the beginning the year um you know we tend to lose that many students so if we're basing our enrollement projection on some very Rosy projection if those numbers don't materialize um there will be deeper cuts and deeper adjustment that need to be made um in you know in accordance to that so thank you um assistant superintendent Chang and I just do want to follow up with the question to the county office if possible in terms of um if we were to have um lease agreements in hand signed contract with that shows Revenue those would all be incorporated into the budget and accepted um by the County Office of Ed throughout this fiscal year if would you mind coming to the mic for the public thank you brancy H the fiscal expert assign for the district um so as Mr Chang said that you do have opportunities throughout the year you have this budget approval you have the possibility of a 45-day revision with updated information you have a first interim report in December and you have a second interum in March and at any time all of your assumptions will be reviewed for accuracy and your budget updated and the county office will be looking and um myself as well at those projections and as you stated in in in that component where you actually have least agreements they're signed they're confirmed those dollar amounts are real the county office would absolutely look at that as a valid budget revision so thank you and and and I just elaborate a little bit as well in terms of the budget numbers in the student population recognize there's a real difference also between student counts and um funded Ada so you're actually funded on attendance and your funding for next year is actually based on prior views so even if you have more students show up next year the impact in the budget would not be felt I'm assuming you're funded right now on so the the current Formula says the greater current year prior year or an average of the three prior years because you've been declining I'm assuming this is built on that prior year prior year so so this idea that the budget would magically change with a lot more money that's actually much further down so recognize the last three years are actually that's a known number that's feeding into this budget so so just just in terms of process I think what you've raised are questions to take a look at um but in terms of timing right now you you have a budget that reflects the board action today it is the best available information and it does need to be approved before July 1 thank you okay so the maker of the motion um do you want to redo your motion and then if it passes or doesn't pass then we could come back and give the staff enough time should we have a a revision because we would have 45 days after that you said right okay do would you want to do it like that I'd be open to it okay uh um go ahead the the the you would amend your motion to adopt the budget as is with the half staff come back of the report based on your recommendations within the 45 days revision period I open to that okay do I have a second okay second okay so do I have an wait a second let me get I didn't see it let me get public comment which there's none and then I'll go right to you okay any public comment seeing there's none go ahead so um thank you Santa clar County Office of Education staff for being here and and um responding to some of the questions I was going to ask um and I just want to clarify the motion on the floor uh now that with all the edits and the conversations is it to pass as is right now is that what I'm hearing not as is it's to pass with the recommendation that we have 45 days for the revision as she said and he said so during that time they're going to look at the numbers again and if there's something that can be uh pivoted to this way or that way then we'll do it like that if we got the numbers in in the Ada if we have the money behind it or Madam president I could say direct the administration to to you know yes that can can you just restate the motion I just want to know when I'm okay I'll pass you know move to approve the budget as is what direction to the administration to uh make Provisions to the budget in 45 days within days yes yeah so in other words we're voting on this as is I just want to clarify on the to make revisions if there's revisions to be made we're going to look at it I think the if because when we say to make you know in 45 days I just want to clarify we can make no revisions but it's still so right now it's just that then we're going to pass the budget as is today and then in 45 days maybe but with the in Brackets with looking at it again in 45 days no with it has to be before 45 days 20 days hopefully we get a millionaire says so let's go are we I think we've talked this to the to the end of the conversation so now let's go vote all in favor raise your hand okay 5 Z motion passes thank you okay so the next one 802 do I approval am okay um do I have a second before he goes on oh wait a minute after your improvement yeah yeah go ahead sorry remember that dwc contract with BR uhuh uh and there was a six month Amendment to the contract for this C and it was because there was a ton of lawsuits going on that was affecting our uh legal council's ability to focus on all of this stuff a lot of those lawsuits have already been resolved one way or another and so now I don't I don't see the need to continue to have that provision in the contract which states a litigation matters was deated by district and labor employment Andor Personnel related issues for class IFI staff uh so that's the language that I would uh move I move approval of the contract with the the deletion of that language uh so that we can continue as we were before uh we had them or all other matters um that are stated here in the scope of service we added the the classified staff stuff six months ago so since this is a revision to the contract or to an agreement would there be a problem there that redoing the language Mr C no we I we still have to approve an agreement that's aign contract that can reflect the uh edits that so you're proposing that do I have a second second okay second um okay so any public comment no any trusty comment seeing there's none let's vote all in favor of the 802 with um trusty King vice president gto's um Amendment raise your hand 5 Z motion passes okay moving on to 803 do I have motion to approve okay all right so I have a motion in a second for 803 request of approval addendum for an extension request for grocery and Fresh Bakery products for the year 2024 and 202 through 2025 um any public comment no trustee comments no all in favor vote 5 Z motion passes unanimously 804 approval request for approval then for an extension request ifp number 223 cns6 Grocery and Fresh bory Products fors second do I hear a second second okay uh any public comment seeing there's none any trusty comment seeing that there's none everybody vote 804 uh motion passes 5 Z 805 motion to approve okay I got a motion do I got a second now um public comment seeing that there's none trusty comment seeing that there's none let's vote all in favor of a0 five raise your hand 5 zero next item um I got a motion for 806 do I got a second second okay uh any public comment seeing that there's none any trusty comment seeing that there's none let's go for the vote 806 everybody in favor raise your hand motion passes unanimously 807 motion to proove second okay I got a first and a second motion was from um vice president kto second was uh Corina loera and um this is for the to the approval of the D done of the extension for the fresh produce Services of 2024 uh CNS requests 701 uh public comment no trusty comment let's vote all in favor raise your hand 807 passes unanimously 808 second do I have a second second second okay public comment see no public comment trusty comment don't you dare thank you I'll vote 808 motion passes 809 R motion now second okay public comment seeing there's none trusty comment no okay let's vote 809 everybody 5 Z thank you very much moving on to 901 resignations only everybody that was information moving on to 10 uh any public comment no thank you pres comment no thank you thank you for reminding me um so Human Resources items 91 we just passed it so let's go on to contracts over $100,000 uh approve the YMCA Silicon Valley cont contract that's item 101 do I have a motion second okay motion and a second do we have public comment no do we have truste comments no I just want to mention approve the YMCA of Silicon Valley contract for the school year 2425 in the amount of 1, 59647 thank you very much for saying that I know raise your hand okay 5 Z motion passes approval of 102 move to approve the uh emeres uh healthc care Staffing incorporation in the amount of $150,000 okay and uh we have a first and I mean a motion and a second no any public comment no public comment any trusty comment no trusty comment uh so let's vote on 102 all raise your hand 5 item 103 do I have a motion motion okay okay either or and do I have any public comments seeing that there's none is there any trusty comment there's none either let's vote on 1003 all in favor raise your hand 1003 passes unanimously next item approve the on is 1101 the leader Services contract of 20 that should say 2024 2025 no actually it's okay uh for $160,000 move approval okay I got a motion in a second any public comments seeing that there's none any truste comments seeing that there's none uh all in favor voting for 1101 raise your hands 5 Z motion passes the consent calendar a second I I know trusty FL Shelton made the first I'm trying to get all this information down okay kto second uh kto made the second uh VP okay thank you you uhhuh uh on the consent calendar uh is anybody going to pull anything move to approve the entire consent K second uh I just W to pull something real quick uh I noticed that item 1205 it's already after the fact so there's no way to turn that one down folks okay so I it'd be nice to have everything in order but every now and then something comes late to the board okay so I'm going to take public comment now uh seeing that there's none any trustee comment seeing that there's none uh we are voting on the entire consent calendar uh all in favor raise your hand uh 5 Z motion passes unanimously for the entire consent calendar now we're going to move to close session um so it is now 10:14 um I'm going to announce the the there any public comments to um the close session item seeing that there's none uh we will be uh on a 10-minute break uh we will go into close session uh at 10:25 and that's part of 130 1302 that I'm doing so we're going to recess now to close session we'll come back at what time should I say um an hour an hour okay so we should be back at let's say 11:30 e e e there is there is there's one it okay we're back at 11 um Mr too can you pleasee report up thank you board president uh item uh 13.10 on a motion from board President Chavez seconded by trustee era Lera the board unanimously approved Jody Edwards Wright as the assistant principal of hubard media arts academy there are no more items to report from post session okay thank you uh so on 15501 request from Board of Trustees and from the public request shall be submitted and writting in the super tener design with supporting documents and information if any at least one week before the scheduled meeting date item submitted less than a week before the scheduled meeting date may be postponed to a later meeting in order to allow sufficient time for consideration and research of the issue board policy 30 9322 and I'm going to um adjourn the meeting uh but I wanted to first comment on that uh V Gara had passed away last month and uh was a man who served his country during the Vietnam World War and served his community to the end of his life always looking tough like banoa with his long mustache and his sarcastic smile he helped the Latino Cho Community by leading LA rasa round table and the GI Forum in San Jose he used these Outlets to menter young Latinos who went on to BEC lawyers teachers doctors and television reporters to name a few please join me in a moment of silence thank you rest in peace Mr Victor garca can we ask the administration to send a letter to his family and find that wein with memory oh yes please I'll provide the address to your son thank you the youngest one or the oldest oh good ah I see ARA has their was it board meeting survival rest
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Mr grippo here Dr haran yes Mr perini here M Rosenberg here Mr White Madam Cherry thank you to the flag of the United States of America to the rep stand One Nation God indivisible withy and justice for all audience session if anybody would like to speak here we're moving on to report to the standing committee ccul is that here absolutely absolutely so we met on June 10th um we had quite a few things to cover on the agenda that evening it started off with an AP World History book and Tim galin was there to share with us um why he had selected that that's simply that the old textbook did not include all of the compon of the new AP curriculum and so he had proposed that uh we went on to talk about the Connecticut leader and educator evaluation and support plan um it was an excellent turnout from our teaching staff we had probably when you guess about 13 Educators here to talk about the process to talk about um the two years that they' spent really researching different models as we waited for the state model to come out and um it was nice to have so many people there that felt passionately about the work that they had done around our our new plan um we also talked about a program of studies change which was very simply a course on law that had been taught in the business department that had more of a business law Focus that is now going to be moved to the social studies Department which works out well since we have a teacher on staff who also has their law degree um bigger thing in in informational items was a change in our grade seven and eight math levels based on a significant amount of data that we have especially data that we have gotten at the end of the school year we're able to make a determination that our sixth grade students are really ready for some more advanced or an accelerated path in math and so we are going to have um be removing one of the levels so deling our map in seventh grade next year which means that the following year in eth grade we will have algebra one for all we have um engaged special education teachers in this decision as well as sixth grade teachers seventh grade teachers eighth grade teachers and our um department chair at the high school who math department shair at the high school we really feel very strongly about this um I just purchase order yesterday to make sure that um our special education teachers have access to any of the professional development they need about the new resource I ready that we begin using this year so there's a lot of good energy on this we really feel like it's the best thing for students questions I would just add um Kevin P gave a great discussion on the whole what the test course showing us being able to do this and getting it off the ground so I really appreciate that very I know it's it's a great result to be able to take the tracking out yeah and have it all eers and incidentally any student this is by Design um that Algebra 1 course in GR if there are students who need additional time with that they can absolutely take Algebra 1 again in ninth grade but it won't stop them from being able to also take geometry so they can sort of double up on that but have a little bit more confidence taking that algebra one course the second time around so that is something that's available as one of those safety do you have enough support Mar just in case stud struggling we do we have spent hours sort of looking at how we can reconfigure that to make sure that students in the special end classes are supported we've gone through and looked at individual IEPs so that any student who has a math um support goal has access to a teacher a par someone who's um expert let's say in that but even just before we get to SP yeah the general education yeah yeah in both buildings we coaching okay we do we're actually moving um one of our support people who has typically been at the elementary school sort of Shifting her over to do you may know her former um former teacher of the year B and real expert in MA as far as Retirement got to so just sort of reconfiguring where she is next year I just want to comment that that was uh so excited to hear that you guys hopefully finally kind of nailed maybe where the learning process should begin after all these years that I proposed you know starting immediately going in September obviously was not realistic happy to hear that at least 25 26 that'll be going so thank you yes from my own personal experience starting Elber in high school probably could have used in my case I probably would have done that second year but um you know having in eighth grade probably would have been a great help to have that because we know algebra is the basis of basically anything that's important except for addition obviously anyways but you know anything that's moderately complex you need alge for right and it's still credit bearing eth grade though I'm good awesome we're going to move on the next thing is the actual the approval of the teacher evaluation plan so I if you have I have um oh thanks um this is the presentation that we had shared at the curriculum committee meeting make sure I'm doing this so we sort of started by saying um the big shift in this is really that it's not evaluation in the way of judging teachers and scoring them as developing or above standard but rather it's about professional growth and again I think you all already know this but the new evaluation model is really coming out of the fact that this was legislated that the state department event needed to come up with another model and therefore districts did as well the major shifts are focusing the agency and ownership onto the teachers so that the teachers are really owning their own learning the idea is about continuous learning and continuous Improvement that results in high expectations for all students and trying to transform that process so that it's more about a growth model this I know this is a little far away you might not be able to see all the names but this is just sort of to um show you how many people were involved in this process everyone from Jeff and I to members of um every single different department and every single different school not just teachers but social workers and um reading and math Specialists Etc there are a few non-negotiables in this about um tying this to National or state Frameworks and standards which we're staying with the Conneticut Common Core for teaching but rather than using the rubrics that are there we've been told to use a single point rubric so we spent some time making sure we had a single point rubric for both teaching um for uh support services and for um leaders we're St we have to have a fall winter and spring check-in conference so that looks like a mid a goal setting mid year and an end ofe conference again mutually agreed upon goals that are all tightly aligned to the district's Focus areas so that's we're really going to see all ores throwing the boat in the same direction being tied to what the actual teachers are focused on and a big piece of this is the self-reflection at the end so we have some work to do around just supporting teachers to be in that self-reflective mode which I think most good teachers already really practi in that way the primary goal is really around pedagogy and increasing student learning growth and achievement so not about the contents that the teachers know so much as the ways in which they're going to carry that out mentioned that and again our district Focus areas which are all aligned with high quality instruction and results in students demonstrating when they graduate that they've achieve those skills identified in the vision of The Graduate mentioned that uh teachers are owning their own learning there's a goal setting cycle else oh some samples of evidence in the ways that teachers can demonstrate that they have um worked on this goal and achieved this goal so they could use student work um Capstone type projects they they could use student assessment data they can use um evidence of practice which could be those formal informal observations it could also Al be things like student work samples or something that a teacher has created or it could be work that students models that students have produced of their thinking while in the classroom so it sort of opens up this idea of what's the process along the way of the growth rather than just the score at the end of the year so this was for our curriculum team obviously for the Board of Ed we're seeking your support today we will submit this by August 1st to the State Department of Education and then um if they have any feedback they would give that to us we would submit that in September sometime but the idea here is that this is evolutionary that the way it stands can will change over time as everyone is living through the process I just what's the fre did it change in frequency I year one to year two to year three did you guys make any adjustments there the committee said if you're a non- tenure teacher this is how it is no matter what your years are and then if you're a 10e teacher this is how it is so that was the only differentiation in the corts so like a number of observations didn't change or anything like that okay it would be three for everyone that because it overlaps with team anyways so yeah there's also a p to support to you know that needs to be in place there'll be a support plan great oh you were there no I was not but I I familiar with the pl that was my question is is the number of observations and but so it's it's three one pretty much spring fall and time frame for all of the for all of the non 10e teach and this these teachers the sort of the premise here is that um it's a little less topheavy that someone's coming in is going to judge you based on this 10 minutes that they've seen right and so I think the principles and the teachers both are looking forward to the teachers being in their room more frequently to see things along the way but that the conversations that are going to exist around the teacher practice are going to happen in those collaborative group times so that there's more feedback there's feedback from your colleagues not just from a 10 minute I imagine it's a very positive thing for non-ed teachers to still be able to skills and be in position to achieve 10e rate what's the frequency for 10e teachers for a formal observation that would be something that would be agreed upon by the the duo that meets to set those goals so they might have a lot of other evidence and it might not include a formal observation yeah so if um previously you go in and you're observing a lesson that maybe disconnected to any sort of focused growth that you're working on here you might work you might say all right I'm trying to work on my questioning or the building thinking classroom strategies that we've talked about before you know I want somebody to come in and observe me and provide feedback on that might be an administrator might be co-workers um I know you guys have seen and heard a lot about our uh learning walks strategies that we've employed with teachers going in and observing instruction from a variety of teachers and coming back and debriefing that could be part of the growth uh Focus it's really oriented on improving practice as opposed to rating practice um the disconnected ratings that occur three times over the course of a year um they're not super valuable for the teacher or for the administrative team so this excited about the focus on supporting everybody's growth than you uh I just wanted to comment that I was at the presentation and I uh had concerns about accountability for those first three years and I think U your you and your team were able to answer my the questions I had um because at first it seemed like it was a lot of team building for those who are already there how to further enrich their careers and that sort of thing but was nice to hear that that accountability was built in because you know for good or bad but that really those first three years is kind of when you can really um affect if a teacher is going to stay here or not or if they'll be successful in our system or not so it was great to hear that that was kind of built in because at first it was like well okay it's like everyone's judging each other and how's that really going to work but you know it seemed in the end that it was you know good thank you that's sort of the evaluation process is there for those new teachers and they have a second level when they get assigned a mentor through the team so it's almost like they have double the observations and support you're right we really want to make sure in those first three years that they're keeper yeah but to that point though I feel this is just my opinion that the team process is we don't want to deter somebody who wants to come to the profession either and it's pretty excessive how much work they have to do to prove that you know they sure but that's the point right yes but the accountability Factor also applies to Veterans too you know yeah everybody needs to be held accountable right yes but at a certain point it's you have a lot more protections once you get past a year three or four than you would otherwise you're a bit more than that will employee before the I would just add it was very useful to see all of the folks who were here at that meeting and to hear their testimony from in the ranks and no one required them to do that you know I put that out to the team to say who would like to to be here well we I mean we heard from administrators we heard from um from teachers beginning teachers coaches you know pretty representative and just the comments were so positive about this collaborative Union leadership as John is here it was um it was impressive to hear and hear the actual testimony from the people in rights I I like the plan I think it's pretty clean I also like the fact you gave evidence of or at least some samples of what this looks like to because it's also hard to navigate very broad sample from the state or non-existing and the so my work for the summer will be to create some like sample professional goals so what does a good professional goal look like and what does it not look like so that each principal has a PowerPoint going into their year and is able to share that and maybe people want to take one of these goals but at least there's some idea there of this is not a good goal business so I would move that the chesh Board of Education approves the chesher educator growth evaluation plan has present second favor the motion unan thank you for that work Finance I'm I'm well how are you so I know one of the primary reasons of this this meeting this morning is for the board to uh review and approve the final fiscal year end balances um I will refer to the memo is dated June 28th and I will walk you through this um you'll see at the bottom of the page that the remaining balance is zero so the boards budget is balanced and I'll take you through some of those details so we'll come back to page one uh one of the board members if you inclined will need to read that motion on page two just this you know your rules just force The Habit ad we've been doing this a few years on page two at the top of the page just a couple of quick comments um and I think this is the most important thing that I I like to share with the board you'll see that the five category salaries benefits instructional programs Support Services operations and maintenance all those um balances on the far right are below 400,000 and most importantly salaries were within 7% of budget employee benefits were within 4% instructional programs were within 3.6% support services within 1.8% of budget and ups and maintenance 2% of budget so you know we I think you have to look at that and say pretty much on the mark with meeting our budget across the categories we um had a few items that we talked about throughout the year I would say they're relatively minor but Energy prices were one of the factors that we were concerned about uh as it turns out we were able to lock in pretty favorable prices for electricity oil natural uh gas we didn't lock but diesel and gasoline for our buses we did lot it was a mild winter and that helped us as well so we were able to mitigate that concern the unpaid balances on school lunch uh as we had reported during the year the concern was that those balances might continue to rack up to about 40,000 for the year um they did stabilize in about February at around 20,000 and as you'll see in the report the ending balance of 18, 04364 that were not paid by students parents the board is responsible by state law to repay that to the Food Service program so that is built in to our close um you know and I I do want to acknowledge that our food service staff did a good job to work to try and collect those balances without undue pressure but we did ask for parents that ow balances to pay us back um out Place tuition again that was one of the concerns that we had at one point we had reached a high of about 480,000 over budget um but we did have you know some students that no longer needed to be outplaced either because they came back to district schools or left the district altogether so from 480,000 of the high we wound up closing the year $242,000 over budget which um is I think you just reflective of the increase in student enrollment we're seeing increase in special ed enrollment as well so we did increase our budget for next year for that line item because I think we will need it um and so those were the concerns we mitigated them that allowed us on the last paragraph here that allowed us to uh do what we normally do where we understand where our budget is roughly by April so we were able to prepare and make the necessary encumbrances for year on school Equipment Technology and replacement Furniture purchases on the next page just quickly on medical benefits um through May you know we're running about $1.2 million per month in claims on average our budget was $1.1 Million that's what was expected so about 99.4% higher through May um but that overage was offset partially by higher than expected prescription rebates and um lower than budgeted administrative costs paid to Signa and other providers so we started the year with about $2 million in reserve and we're going to end the year with about $2 million in reserves actually I'm projecting 2.2 million because to close the budget the final entry we passed was 100 17,0 51855 came from the operating budget to fund the medical benefits Reserve so that's how we were able to get to zero and then on the appendix um attachment a we just listed out some of the summer maintenance and Technology projects I did show board members earlier just some of the pictures of the projects that are underway major projects are the West Jim Locker renovations we're doing flooring replacement across Chester High School which includes a specialist abatement we are replacing the cafeteria walk-in freezer Refrigeration equipment at the front of the loading dock area at the high school we're replacing two boilers at Dodd Middle School and also we're completing the fire alarm system replacement at Dodd uh which we've been doing over the course of the year in the evenings and then on the last page I just wanted to mention on the technology side besides all the maintenance work that we do every summer we are moving our work order platform from school du to a new product called ml schedules um and that that'll take effect actually next week July 1 we're also implementing Mutual link which is a school security communications platform that's not only for the schools but can be used by the police department across the town we are um making some more Replacements this summer of the old smartboards with smart flat panels like the one we have at the front of the room we're upgrading our five to sixy Old desktop PCS for the for the teachers uh we're replacing the Mac Lab at Chester high school because those Macs are about six years old uh and finally our technology staff is going to be deploying which is always a pretty large project to get the chome books ready for the incoming seventh grade great students and again our strategy is the students use those from grade seven till they graduate ches high school um so the summer projects are off to a very good start we're happy about that only other thing I want to mention on summer projects is the installation of two modular at Highland School which we're planning to do this summer we have rfps cominging back on the project labor July 10th that project you know is a little concerning at this point for a couple reasons you know one is you know the funding that we have and where those construction prices come in and there's also some concern about the plan that I have for using the capital appropriation of 450,000 plus you know operating and other funds to pay for the construction that may trigger a referendum is what was raised recently so I've spoken to Sean Kimel our to manager the finance director they're checking with Bond counsel you know even though we've done it in in the past where we've supplemented Capital with operating funds the we may not have done it where triggered a referendum so that's TBD and I won't know until after July 10th um we do have a plan B kind of ready if we can't get those Portables in this summer but we'll meet with the planning committee when we have you know more information and we'll share that out so back to page one the the final closing entries are reflected we um have to move money from salaries where we were under budget into employee benefits instruction support services and operations and maintenance those entries about 358,000 9036 on each side I'll answer any questions and I'll stop talking now and then the board sine you can make motion so wait V what's the worst case scenario for the high Portables we do them next summer well we decide not to do them um and we have a a plan B the only sense of comfort I can give you right now in Plan B which essentially means we'll keep all the students contained in the building and the two current Portables is that it seems that we May free up a kindergarten classroom over what was budgeted just based on where enrollment is today I'm not sure it's going to hold but you know we we'll have to make it work and we will you have one yes um so when I uh saw your offsets I was expecting to see like most likely the money came from like unfilled IIA positions or something like that that looks like that's not the case so that you had a lot from the teachers line which was a little unexpected so what happened there okay so a couple of things let's start with the teacher line where we a final balance available was $952,000 so we were under budget there were a couple things driving that one is we had more retirements and more savings from retirements than we had bud that was part of it not a major part of it number two is we did have a lot more leads this year than prior years and we also had a couple of openings that we couldn't fill now part of the teacher overage you have to look at is that was over budget $952,000 but it was offset by being over budget and substitutes by 38 right that would explain yeah so there's an offset there and also part of the teacher overage um is in our instructional program line for pupil services so to the extent that we couldn't hire a teacher or get a sub we did go out and hire some um services using Consulting money okay so that's where the teacher offsets were so it's not as Extreme as it first appears the instructional assistant line which was over budget 264,000 we did fill the instructional assistant positions last year we did struggle to fill positions this year we did fill them and then because of the increased enrollment in instructional in specialed students we added instructional assistance above what was budgeted really don't have a choice and then Factor number two which is a smaller portion is that the minimum wage increased further in January of this year so we did have to push some salaries up to make sure that we were needeing minimum wage um so that is the explanation on on the IAS and and to be clear instructional assistant is what we now refer to as par professional just make it sure I you know what I do need to change that Adam that well I wasn't sure maybe that's you know an official Financial term and approve that yeah I don't know I don't know if you can just change the account name don't need to do that's not a board action we need to take but just making sure we're talking apples to apples right cuz yeah instruct you know we we used to saying that up to a few years ago so so can you can you continue and talk about because it's looks like the maintenance is where over well overall maintenance um you know did come in within just a ,000 of budget but what we you know what we did do to the extent we had available funds as we did um encumber funds to do more summer work so we did when we approved the budget last year we did reduce the maintenance line below what was originally requested so you know like any year in our budget to the extent we have overages in some accounts you know we fund those areas that we need to fund you know similarly instructional Supply is over budget by 90,000 that's because we did push additional purchases of student equipment uh and Furniture because we did have some budget room to do so and I can tell you that some of the principes are quite happy about that and we did need to add a classroom set do little which we do have one more grade going in there so you know pluses and minuses per every year I would say these actually were relatively boring this year I was just thinking that maintenance is one that we have more control is that we do yeah but again reason maintenance is over it's because we are we added some of projects that we could do that have shown at that um attachment a which kind of help I mean to a degree get ahead of the capital budget a little bit you'll know that um we're going through the capital budget process right now with the town and they're really trying to pair down the year one projects both on our side the M Municipal side um but I think you know we met with them was it last Monday Monday I don't remember but uh you know we're making pretty good progress there to keep you posted on that that's pretty usual though yeah it's kind about having control maintenance line when things don't go WR a problem right yeah right it's been kind of I think it's been quiet not sure but for me years over come on boiler incident we've seen the pictures of the pipes bursting and I did have one question on the projects uh summer projects I what is the at do little what is the Polish heating oil contamination Polish Polish heating oil yeah I wasn't sure I'm like oh we're importing I'm think polish does make it so um don't worry I just yeah so that's the underground storage tank at dittle so let's just say some work needs to be done on the tank okay now I can get more details yeah is it polishing work what why is it called polish you there's some I'm assuming it's a technical term I think I know Tim were here he want know show the pictures I don't think oh I'll text a little more buiness of some of these projects so this is just a quick recap of where we are and just keep in mind we only started our projects about two and a half weeks ago at this point but we're renovating the cafeteria at cheser high school this is the way it looked before we pulled out all this equipment you know we're going to do um some real improvements to the area uh so you'll see those when we come back this is you know one of the areas where we do have a serving line the high school cafeteria is very choppy you have to go to different areas to get different food we can't fix that but to the extent we can make improvements not only in appearance but how we're able to serve students that's the goal of this project and this is funded primarily uh from the Food Service budget this is not the kitchen for the students at the high school this is The Culinary Kitchen that we have in the home economics area this is funded by grant that uh we received so we pulling this equipment out we're rejiggering the equipment we can keep Again The Culinary Kitchen will be greatly improved for the students and that's ER could be a jetti our food service director you know I guess she was helping brought you know everybody rolls up their sleeves around here everybody likes to demo this is the uh West gym lockers there's boys and girls lockers behind the West gym that are used for physical primarily although visiting teams do use one and and the other um so this is a project that was part of the ADA compliance requirements that we were cited for you know back in 2009 so this is the last major component of that work and I'm very happy we got it started you could see that they they have gutted the room there are some um you know there ventilation improvements that are included as part of this project we're going to have to add a new rooftop unit to replace the one that was there so this is pretty much gutted and they'll start re assembling as we go on to July the other major project this year is we have quite a bit of floor replacement at cheser high school this is one of the asbestos abatements that floor is going to get pulled up um this is another hallway section with an abatement uh this is a nasty looking floor that will be replaced under a batement i Jeff do you know what room that even is the no the B no that's one of the classrooms in the social studies way yeah and this is this is the band Ro so that's that's been ripped up at this point that was before and that's after the flooring gets ripped out all right this is the refrigeration units at cheser high school but they been there quite a long time not since the 50s what we were surprised and there was his best us that had to be contained there as well but what we were surprised to see when they removed the the structure is that they this was some type of a wood structure supporting the area at the ceiling then there was insulation and then there was just empty space above we were just shock that it was a wood structure is really what we found this water melting off is the ice that had formed above that insulation later that was probably there for a couple of decades so before they removed the unit they turned off the unit for a couple of days those walk-ins were they were not from the 50s I'm guessing probably in the 80s still Wow might 40 years right oh really is it's they would doow and I'm glad obviously we did it now um so that's them actually pulling down the roofing piece of it um so this area obviously gets cleaned up and then they will install you know brand new units in there um again most of this funded from the Food Service budget although we're doing the abatement and construction you know related work out of some of the operating funds that we have those are just chunks of ice it's amazing yeah wow that's how inefficient those units were yeah I mean we knew that they needed to be replaced but you know it was we would definitely we will improve our Energy Efficiency with the new new units for sure and this is one of the two cast iron boilers that um have now been pulled out of the do Park Place um saw front of the building when we to the building they're out um this is a there's a hatchway above that leads to the sidewalk and that's how they take stuff out and put it back in uh that's just against some of these are some of the old Parts but this is the crane that brought the new new units into do and so that's what the new units look like these are condensing boilers there'll be two to replace the two old cast iron much more energy efficient you know dot is off of oil we're all natural gas at this point so that project is going along just fine you know we'll we'll be finished by the end of the summer is is the Target and we believe we'll hit it but we we'll certainly be heating with the new boiler units by the time the fall comes so that's just a little preview of the early work that's going on I I Googled uh poish it is a procedure for PS from oil thank you appreciate that I Googled it good it's amazing Rich Google yeah try to I find all these projects over time then do you want us to do the motion for the or do you want to just do them all together it's just just one motion yeah I don't know if you want to move on to the increase in oh no we don't that's a separate item all right so uh move that the treasur Board of Education approves line item transfers for the 2324 fiscal year and as follows to end the year in Balance um move from salaries $358,900 36 uh move two employee benefits 59,0 3729 construction 162 47285 Support Services 1274 5365 and operations and maintenance 9,636 uh for a total of $ 35,9 36 remaining balance of zero all those in favor thank you the next item on the agenda is medical benefits which I reported on so the if it's okay I would like to move on to the recommendation for the school meal price increase I did share with the board a memorandum that explains um what we're doing and why but I do want to summarize you know really two key points why we need this increase at this time and the first is that the state puts out a calculator every year they did it rather late this year you know I do apologize I've been doing this today um but what the state calculator recommended Target price for next year is 385 per meal that's an average that the state provides when we plugged in our current meal prices to the state's calculator our weighted average price is $33.75 so so in order to meet the state calculator we do need to increase by an average of 10 cents so that's reason one um reason two is that as we got through this year we did wind up with a profit of 27 uh excuse me 29958 and we don't believe we will hit a profit next year we will have a loss if we don't raise prices so I think it validates that the state's Target price is pretty much in line with where we are the reason that we um are recommending price increases or the reason that we have to increase prices both by the state's model and what we're seeing internally is that we've seen an increase in the prices of food that we purchase um I don't think that's a shock that you know inflation has increased the price of food and most of the items that we buy go we go out to bid for so it's not like prices fluctuate a lot we know what we expect for next year and the second driving component is the increase cost of wages as the minimum wages increased over the years you know we are recommending you know to raise prices because if we don't we're just going to fall further and further behind the a besides the fact that we won't make a profit you know our goal in food service is to be a break even or better you know to the extent there is a profit and for next year with the increase in prices we're estimating a profit of $35,000 so I just want to make it clear that it's it's above break even it's not something that you know benefits Food Service extraordinarily to the extent that we have a profit Food Service can maintain it in a reserve and that Reserve can be used you know to offset not only operating needs but to make equipment purchases like some of the work that we're doing you know this summer at the high school that is being funded from those Food Service balances okay so that's the backstory the recommendation um on page one are as follows no change in the purchase price of an 8 O milk it's going to stay at 75 cents we are recommending to increase the breakfast prices at elementary middle school and the high school 25 cents per meal so Elementary will go from $2 to $225 cents breakfast at the middle school from 225 to 250 and at the high school 250 to 275 all those breakfasts come with an 8 O milk which is a requirement um the big recommendation we're not making is leave the elementary lunch price at 350 um and that is the highest meal C that we serve so to the extent that we have elementary students buying lunch the price won't increase next year but we are recommending to increase Middle School lunch by 25 cents from $375 to $4 and high school lunch also by 25 there are two different um meal combinations at the high school a $4 meal and $5 meal and those will go up to 425 and 525 respectively when you do the math on those increases we do get to $386 on average which is 1 cent above the 385 that the state set as the Target price which is why we're recommending that we leave Elementary lunch meal prices alone so gets us where we need to get um I won't bore you with all the details but on the third page shows what we where we would be without the price increase - 27,000 and what this price increase worth $35,000 we realize that you know families that you know have tight budgets this doesn't help but we are also responsible to have a food service operation that is self- sustaining this will enable us to continue to do that that's the recommendation and happy to answer questions um so for the uh reduced was there legislation this year to expand the reduced lunch program so what the legis yes there was the legislation is that anyone that's eligible for reduced price meals is free and the state is supplementing school districts to make that possible so for next year anyone that's eligible under the formula for reduced or free lunch it's fully free what's been eliminated just to kind of finish out the point is this year breakfast was free for all students free ruc and nonfree Ru that's limitated and in L of that reduce student meals off fre and so is our reimbursement rate uh based on cost or what we charge well no no the reimbursement rate from the state we serve a reduced or free Price meal that that's fixed we get that so just a fixed rate not regardless of cost correct so that's Revenue that we get when we serve a a free meal it's free to the student and we're getting re we're getting paid that some of it money from the state so we're not getting we don't get 100% reimbursement on a free um so that meal cost $4 and state usually $3 Yeah we actually I understand the point and yes we pretty much what we receive from the state is in line with that cost for that meel okay so US changing these rates here does not have an effect on that reinforement and that's all fact that right we balanced that to zero I cannot afford another chair you the budget just when we said the maintenance was good okay V so can we delay this increase so now we can we did this just last year well two years ago yeah uh and you know retrospectively it's good that we did that because we would be further on the water and so there there's two things that I would would say in response to that one is by delaying it the next time we need to increase prices it's probably going to be higher than what we're recommending today so you know that's something to consider uh and two is if we believe as as we do that we will have a loss for the year we need a waiter from the state to do that I don't think it would be denied but we would need to ask for a w so those are the two things that um need to be considered if we want to wave this and I guess the third option is don't do it now do it at midye next year after we get a handle on where we are for the year one of the you know one of the other things that is in the background that we're a little concerned about is with the free breakfast no longer offered what happens to the participation rate you know if it goes down that actually hurts us from a financial point of view so we don't know where we'll be with participation for breakfast next year we do expect it to be a bit lower but won't know but that's my concern is like now you increasing the price of breakfast the most important meal of the day and trying to still obtain the participation in so the last time we did this I think we pushed it like 3 months so that we can transition the communicated more I feel like we need to kind of do the same because it's only been two years and we're increasing prices again I I feel much better about going with this increase based on the fact that there's not that reduced lunch cost anymore that it's all under the free lunch so I feel like that actually this is a good handful of families that really should be getting the fre lunches and then for me the increases but I don't think the state change the threshold of of how much you know income you make that's the problem the formula did not change and we did Lobby for that we did ask our our legislators to you know those thresholds you know for the Northeast really should be adjusted they are National federally set thresholds and in Connecticut they are just too low a family of four um to get free needs to have income below 000 it's a low number it's a family of four I mean well it's not that now now it's whatever they reduc much so in essence they really did change they did yeah two agree two it was a compromise it is I think more needs to be done frankly but that's you know we have what we have so I understand and this is the recommendation board can make a different decision I don't I do I don't have the price increases but the issue is as impact the families that plan out those there are folks that are tight sometimes you forget well chest you receed as a fluent Community do have families that um do a we to we so I very sensitive that I don't have a problem postponing a few months to started a school year just so there's uh a heads up to the community that this is coming the plan for me get back from them I was like putting things out there ahead of time so people can give us some feedback and they'll feel like this is pushed on them we're not trying to do that but prices are going up this is right I'm missen 830 meeting right now we talk about some things Rel the cost and increases inflation so it's it's iny all around that's the it's not just 25 cents or 50 cents here it's costing energy eating electricity water so families do get hit around I get that I don't know how we avoid that but if you want is Play in line with the uh the population be that threshold and have a defic next year I think do this but I I okay if the board wants to postpone few mons we should P defin otherwise now we're having our budget hit because actually there is a loss we have to make it up by operting budget somewhere and we typically don't fund at all these F calls at oper that can get us especially the drops I think we all recognize that you know the cost is going up and this is just a question about how do we time it in a way that best supports our right so you know I think when V and I initially discussed this we thought that you know if we we put this on the Today gives us the summer to kind of educate and promote you know not promote but educate the community to create awareness about this change alternatively it's no different really it's not a problem necessarily to wait until let's see what the end of September brings in terms of uh practice participation and maybe that will be positive or it won't be and then we can start to strategize for a January increase and what number might that be um you know I understand V's point about we discussed this too you know if it's kind of on par with the way things are going might January be looking at in essence kind of a catchup cost so now you're going to 30 cents in January or you know 35 and the how what's the perception and impact of that versus 25 for the full year you know these are all it's an educated guess and so I think you know in our educated guess we said let's try the strategy for the full year we'll educate over the summer and um you [Music] know it's not exact you been trying to make a prediction if uh but if we want to wait until end of September again to review the data from the first month of school it's just we're just all this kind of shot in the dark for all of us so is the thought in a delay to let parents know that we that an increase is inevitable and that they should be prepared for it or are we delaying this because we just don't want to raise prices I I agree with the price increase I don't disagree with that I think we should be on par with what the state is recommending Target wise Barris some to what Tony said I think we're I don't want to rip the bandid off people at all but I do want some data in participation and so forth similar to what said right so if we can maybe push it to the end of October start the change in November but I'd like to see some raw data whether or not the kids are actually buying in breakfast in the morning so if we did that that every every day that we don't race the price creates a shortfall is essentially what you're saying depends on potentially not yeah you don't know most likely probability is probably higher yeah a little bit let's say it does we got what 27 cents instead of 25 now we're it's not going to bankrupt food service and it's not and I don't think we'll get to a point next year where we have to supplement the program unless participation completely falls off so I I think you can safely delay you may be pushing out the inevitable but there you there's not a rush that we have to do this today if the board's feeling is you know timing it into next year we do give families a heads up at the board you taking action we we do have to get the waiver approved by the stating I don't believe that will be a problem because we are we are pretty close I I will add some information that Erica shared with me is that there are some school districts that did not raise prices through the pandemic and so now they're looking for substantive increases well above the 25 cents that we would have to do to meet that 385 Target so we're not in terrible shape delay this you know to the fall you know to your point gives us some time to measure um and then we either we airm what we're requesting or adjust if we need to yeah no it's inevitable I unless costs are coming down which seem a trend anymore but yeah I I wouldn't postpone it past the fall because then we're going to catch up position I again depending what happens with with participation but participation or not heay flat told need to do this so yeah but I think the data will like many said will justify why why the rationale for increase and you know so if we can just take time to inform and then collect and then we'll start November 1st that's the increase so does that need to be the motion or do we make them do we adjust the motion I don't yeah we'll just review it September and then yeah if the board's consensus is put it off you don't need to do anything so we will approve the increase within implementation of November one then up to you you don't have to do that today no you we have the we can educate you know we can still say you know that this is what's going on we're going to have to tell people anyway that breakfast isn't free we're going to have to remind them of that we're going to have to make sure people are aware that um you know if you're on a reduced please make sure you submit your application because you do qualify for reduce its free for lunch so there's an education campaign that's going to have to occur anyway we'll roll in the idea that you know like you see at the grocery store we see prices increasing it's going to likely be necessary we're trying everything we can you to lay that to the greatest extent possible well will be reviewing in September um but an adjustment will be made in November we're just trying to determine what's an appropriate amount at this time that sort of messaging I think would be appropriate right but that being said we can just approve the motion knowing that we're going to increase it already that's all good I just need a sense of comfort that our families have enough time to get the message from you and prepare for that I would more recommend that you know we take action now and put it back on the agenda for September else here any time period especially when family communication schools for coming school year maybe there'll be some public comment in September 25% increase and they'll come and tell us about make a point to having our let's do so okay thank you any uh correspondence uh I received no correspondence no old business new business oh sorry actually you know I'll let oh Chairman's support I I just had it real quick on the old business we talked about chronic absente is in we have the um information regarding our chronic absentee is in District wide last year was 10.54% our team worked really hard on trying to bring that down 7 34% uh this year so a really significant decrease in the number of students who were chronically absent just wanted to share that positive and also the CFO yeah the the um the board the community even I would say because the Town Council very much wanted uh to see our pre-engineering and environmental science programs get off the ground for grades four and as we had hoped uh the great news is last night we had a meeting with the chesher Education Foundation who unanimously supported our recommendation to purchase um robots through this true robotics program that engage a lot of programming coding work into that students have to assemble the robots um and so they as I said unanimously endorsed the $555,000 purchase of robot for us to make that program possible so we're really excited about that firstly thank you to CF for this um is this in relation to the program that we have approved or is this is okay okay yep the science uh folks that were very close to hiring I just going to finalize that process probably next week I think we have them coming in um one of them was actually in attendance last night for the presentation so U cruising Right Along on that exciting did we talk about implementation in the curc meeting with the coaching model and I don't recall think so that'll be a early item in September we talking about the pre- engineering curriculum the uh environmental science what that'll all look like any other old yeah I just had a question um uh thank you the Facebook and perhaps Marty Coburn uh who uh brought up uh right to read uh and perhaps he was Awakening to it personally or others were and uh he mentioned an article saying and I think we knew this already that we are one of uh five uh school systems in my opinion I using my words yet to capitulate to uh the uh state Board of Ed on this um so I was just wondering if there are any updates on what's happening or we're just going to go our on way for now not necessarily you know um at the end of the day we is we talked about many times subscribe to the science of reading the various elements that constitute the science of reading uh we've spent a lot of time creating our own curriculum around the science of reading had a lot of conversations and Marin's had some conversations with uh other leaders in districts uh both identified by the commissioner of edet board meeting um and some that aren't um and maybe aren't really sure why they weren't but um at the at this point where we are is you know we are still reviewing our curriculum as we always do to try and identify areas for Improvement and you know where we are with phonics and you know there's not been U any sort of communication from the SD around this is how you change your status or anything like that um I thought it was interesting because we were initially identified as limited and now we're we partial um based on our last meeting we had identified um a specific program and you know so not quite sure why we were singled out like that with that group of five but I've been in worse company so so you have to understand where the article source came from That's So if you go back I mean it's not malicious it's just a particular stakeholders view of things right so but the end of the day I I I know so just based on other other boards have been going through through uh board members same situation it's the uh few month actually four or five months ago really just kind of sto processing waivers so to speak there nothing talking about anymore there's there's no clear path and that's one thing I legislators aware of what I'm not sure what they can do is there's no clear path on how you change status other than by falting to one of the 19 reading programs I it changes that there's program and then there's compilations of programs yeah so we'll start out with a handful you so but I mean there still open dialog department and it seems like that keeps going somehow chipping away fraction of that time there's that's a problem there's no plan or procedure workflow how to go from where we are to fully adopted using what we have that's the and I think what I'm hearing is folks are figuring it out there as this is keeps moving but I have not heard any District being told th sh fly or else yet I don't know if that's going to happen so we're this we're in this we situation okay everything's been done and now it's list is out there and not sure how SD is helping move this forward with anybody at this I don't think any and it's not advantageous for us to make it any improvements as we do in practice already there's certain areas in the state that do need to make improvements we're at a point where we we recognize some of our shortfalls and we called to you know and if you point there are some this actually helps us great you know like it just seems that once the districts uh you know are SpongeBob reference good noodle list there there's they it don't seem really talk anymore so I it's very very inter yeah oh no just for the record I didn't mean to put Marty on blast or anything Marty is a former pnz commissioner and an outspoken voice of the community I guess we could say certainly holds my feet in fire every once in a while um so thanks Marty oh great I we are getting he then I would we already have that so already all year so there's no future Financial impact that yeah I think we're in a good place the um Ive to a Jour I have to get up okay I don't have any new business so to her 9:30 meeting I at 7:30 I'll take that Jab
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flag of United States of stand indivisible withy and justice for all we have a special meeting this morning with one item on our agenda um Mrs count had a conflict so as vice president I uh have a little coup this morning and we'll be running the meeting um we let's go down to it there did anybody sign up for public comment no do I have a motion to adopt the agenda Mr President I'd like to admin the agenda to drop section as we have no items under Section Five this morning do I have a second a second with a thank you Mr Alexander thank you Mr Russell with the motion to adopt the agenda without item five um let's take a vote all those in favor say I I I opposed vote passes three Z so we'll go down to action item number six it's the motion or it's the uh the item to approve the superintendent's cont contract I know U Mr or Dr Dr Jason Taylor put together uh a nice presentation last time with a summary it's been posted on the website no one's here for public comment on it um is there anything you'd like to add to that Dr Taylor uh just on a personal note and I couldn't be happier with the selection the board's made um on behalf of all the administration um the leadership Dr long has shown in the past six months uh stands a testament as to why the board's taking this action today um he is the right guy to lead us forward we're excited we're building a great team and uh we really look forward to working with him moving forward in this new capacity so congratulations Bill thank you Dr Taylor before we take a vote Mr Russell do you have anything to add we did go through all his references didn't we and you were one of them and and even though you were one of them we're still willing to take this action Ander do you have anything to add what did anybody I know we had a post it on the website did anybody comment on the website at all or anything no the commenting would have been during the hearing okay last week okay which was held but nope no additional comments and I also want to thank you for for stepping up at a at a time where we we needed you to step up and look forward to the next two years um do you have anything you'd like to add uh no it was a really fast six months um but uh like Dr Taylor said we've got a really good team really looking forward to taking on some challenges in the upcoming couple years appreciate that can I uh get a motion Mr Daniels I move that we approve the superintendent's contract as presented this morning do I have a second a second thank you Mr Alexander thank you Mr Russell all those in favor signify by saying I I opposed passes three Z congratulations thank you you can't get out of it and we just have a couple of announcements um it looks like on July 18 there'll be a public work session at uh 4 o'clock at the ITC Learning Hub also on July 18 a an executive session will be held at 6 pm at the Learning Hub and then our next regular board meeting also July 18 at 7 pm back here in this room um any other comments Mr Russell Mr Alexander none for me Sor Dr Long superintendent long I can be the first one to say it and I don't either record to show my first meeting was four minutes long well we can drag it on if you can maintain that P Dr Long uh with that I'll adjourn the meeting
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e all right I'm going to I always love to do that just so you guys I'm going to I'm gonna call the regular board meeting together uh for Thursday June 20th 2024 um I'd like to start um I think I've Rewritten what I wanted to say no less than five times um sorry I also thought that if I didn't have it in writing that I wouldn't get through this so here we go um recently I told my youngest that God gives some of the hardest battles to some of his strongest Warriors and that he wouldn't give you more than you can handle but two Sundays ago I questioned that we lost a good one and this hurts and it's overwhelmingly sad but boy I know Gary is in a better place um grro was one of the most genuine positive generous caring selfless and God-fearing men that I've ever known he committed his life to kids of Center Grove for 43 years and then we were blessed to have him two more years serving this community over the last week and a half I've heard a ton of Gary stories I was lucky enough to hear um from about Gary from his children and his amazing wife Elizabeth at his service I got to see the video of the 1972 Center go of Basketball Championships winning shot or as we were told um Gary lovingly referred to it as the past um in everything that I listened to one thing stuck out the most was how much he Lov Center Grove he would leave every board meeting any executive session or any lunch by thanking me for being there and telling me I was doing a great job um I've never had him as a teacher my kids didn't either dang it but I could only imagine how a teenager would feel with such kind words said to them when they left his classroom he always had a list with him um it would be on a napkin a piece of paper whatever he had but he made sure that everyone he spoke with the month prior was heard at the next board meeting if you knew him you were lucky if you see the empty seat up here with us it's devastating and to say we're going to miss him is an understatement also to say thank you to him is just truly not enough so I'd like to have a moment of silence for Gary Robinson thank you um I get to lead the Pledge of Allegiance so if everybody would stand I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America to [Laughter] we did they did do the fight song too which was amazing all right so um item 3.1 is the adoption of the agenda Madam president I move that we adopt the agenda thank you Mr Daniels do I have a second second thank you Mr Alexander um all those in favor signify by saying I I any opposed okay motion pass is 4 Zer um and on to public comments I don't think we have any we don't have any okay and next item um are our consent items um does anybody have any discussion no all right do I have a motion Madam president I move that we approve the consent items thank you Mr Daniels do I have a second second thank you Mr Alexander all those in favor signify by saying I I any opposed okay motion passes for zero um president I may we have some people we'd like to introduce I know I just wanted to tell Mrs Mills that I'm mad at her but I was grateful I'm grateful that you got all my kids out of there before you decided to do this anyway go ahead that's great thank you like to call out Kaye Brown our executive director of HR she's going introduce a couple people in the room tonight exced aab in she's excited element Tec element [Applause] Alp aluc she serves as teer in 201 2018 she at as ition princip at map for six years yes ume is going to be joining us as the principal at Sugar grub Elementary and I think she's just going to do [Applause] on duty right [Laughter] now department at SCH [Applause] andby I was wondering what you did this time am there was a sheriff's deputies I know and then we're gonna have Christy Burger executive director of student services join us come up here with me as well so I'm so excited to um introduce Megan K she has been in education for 15 years she's been a school counselor at C high school for the last nine years and the last four years she was actually the director over there at the high school so she'll be joining our team um as our school counseling coordinator andan just brings a wealth of knowledge for what our students need to be ready when they leave our space and so with all the changes to our graduation um come up and Pathways we know that is going to do a great job for our students and here so we're so excited um not with her today but her is lo thank thank you [Applause] welcome and last but certainly not least uh Miss Kristen Rodman's goingon to join us she's our director of Elementary special education to welcome back um Miss Jenny toor school this is her she's finished her 17th year in education um she is a former special education teacher here in C gr but also in Texas New York and Tennessee um in uh 2015 16 she was our district teacher of the year here in C gr um she served us as a special teacher and as a program support um staff member as well and so we welcome her back to Center Grove as our new direct or coordinator of our Academy and we are so thrilled to have and continue to see the growth of our preschool and our Academy so welcome [Applause] Jen thank you okay um next is action item 6.1 which is our superintendent contract hearing um so here we go um ahe okay this evening's board meeting has been appropriately advertised as the hearing on as a hearing on the superintendent's contract so I now open the public hearing and I'd like to call on Dr Taylor to provide some additional information on the superintendent's contract thank you madam president yes the uh the summary I'm about to kind of summarize um was shared in the Daily Journal appropriately um the board is not going to take action tonight we're not asking for any action tonight this is a statutory requirement for a hearing um and I'll run through the sum the terms of the contract now the contract will run for two years commencing on July 1st 2024 and ending on June 30th 2026 it's a 260-day contract spaning 12 months running from July 1st through June 30th of each year um the monetary value for the salary and base amount is $215,000 annualized and the board in its sole discretion may increase the amount um via the terms of this agreement they may also um if other level a administrators receive the same performance valuation category as superintendent um the superintendent would receive a one-time stien or base salary increase depending on what the the level a administrators received that year um the plan also calls for a retirement contribution roughly totally the amount of 20,000 then 40 then 20 and it's split amongst a 403b plan and a 403a plan those have some um statutory limits that can't be exceeded so that's why the the the numbers might vary um throughout the years of this two-year contract superintendent will participate may continue to participate in the corporation's Health dental and vision plans in accordance with the level a administrators um package um the school corporation also agrees to provide a term life insurance with a face value not less than 450,000 not more than 500,000 superintendent will contribute this is a consistent amount of a dollar toward that premium each year um the board also is allowing for an providing allowance in the sum of $12,000 per each contract year as part of this um to be used for autom automotive automobile and mileage expenses and the superintendent agrees will not submit any claims for reimbursement um for those two items um paid personal leave sick leave holidays bement funeral leaves um are all in accordance with um the level a administrators um and all other any Fringe benefit that wasn't listed up above that the level a administrators receive also would be extended to the superintendents um one one little additional thing here a lot of the contributions up above um can also be included as annual compensation as reported to Indiana um teachers retirement fund and we will we will use that moving forward um the board will pay for any membership and participation in professional organizations um all reasonable expenses for travel to National and private um conferences um with prior approval from the board to attend such conferences and then the board will perform a performance review of no less than twice each contract year with one being a verbal review and one being a written review again we're not asking for any action this evening there'll be a separate meeting next week for that and I believe that's included in the hearing notes and that's all the summary I have to provide thank you thank you the appropriate time for members of the public to comment on the superintendent's contract or the information presented this evening are there members of the public present who would like to comment no okay um I now close this public hearing are there any board members who have comments or questions I guess I I would just like to thank Dr long for um expressing an interest and being our superintendent and the process uh we had very very productive conversations to to get to this proposal which I think is is fair to to everyone involved looking forward to having a a vote here in a week and having him be our next superintendent so I I I thank him for one accepting and two the conversations to get to where we're at looking forward to Mrs Council I apologize I neglected to make one statement may I do that this time it's not part of the summary but the total compensation amount is actually a savings over the prior superintendent contract that was approved by the board and I wanted to be clear to share that with the community yes yes anybody else no okay well we're not taking action on it this evening so there will be a special meeting at 8:00 am on June 27th 2024 um that will actually approve the superintendent's contract next item action item 6.2 um approve the statement of benefits and Dr Taylor will provide us some more information on the benefits thank you Mrs counts as part of our your agreement with the bargaining unit and all of our teachers we included a 1% increase for the 2024 25 school year um we're bringing this action tonight to extend that 1% increase to the support staff and the administration in accordance with that same same amount and so a lot of the changes you'll see throughout the statement benefits are just reflecting that 1% increase um for base salaries we did go ahead and adjust the holiday dates that we're aware of um and we clarified some languages on um signon referral bonuses made some changes to sub pay um and added some specific language about our sub bonus incentive which has um become very popular and has yielded even more subs than we've had in Prior years so very positive language um those are just the things we clarified now if something were to happen and we were to receive more revenue or be able to increase this amount we would bring that back at a later date um but we wanted to make sure it was consistent this will be the first year um in my recollection that we can start and pay the first um payrolls at the new amount for all employees and so that's the action we're asking for this evening is approval of the statement of benefits and compensation thank you does anybody have any discussion Jason just kind of to be clear on this and I I think you've said it but the 1% is part of our two-year contract with the teachers right that is correct and we refer to them as openers if something happens where we have more kids if something happens where we have more Revenue then there's certain things we talk to the teachers about about openers yes so just the fact fact that we're approving the or voting on the 1% tonight doesn't close the openers it just gets the money in the people's hands sooner right yes it's very well said and exactly correct thank you I just want to clarify and based on the initial budget runs we've gotten I know we don't have the final yet yep um we don't we're not anticipating any additional we are not at this time and we are comfortable with the amounts that we've already agreed to okay they can fit those into the budget budget okay y we still have a we a lot of input points that come after July 1st through June 30 or through August 30th so um we'll keep watching it weekly okay see if we get that flood of kindergarteners that all show up at once I think it's going to be first graders I think the past few years it's been more of our secondary yes that is correct okay um do I have a motion Madam president I move that we approve the statement of benefits as presented thank you Mr Alexander thank you Mr Russell um all those in favor signify by saying I I any opposed motion passes 4 zero um next action item 6.3 to um approve the uh resolution electing to join the 1977 police officers and firefighters pension and disability fund uh Dr Taylor yes thank you very much um the 1997 1977 fund has been available to um police and firefighters but not available to ones that work for schools and we worked with uh representative Davis and Dr long and chief Jackson even gave testimony towards this so that um they added some language that starting in July first um school resource officers um school police officers would be able to join this fund um this has been a limiter for us in the past as we look to hire and attract officers who might be working for a city Town County or even the state and so it opens up um to a wider candidate pool it also honors um some of the officers that we have on duty already had qualified for this fund and their priv prior assignments and so what the board has in front of them tonight is a it's a it's a very form form likee resolution provided by the fund that we were we're asking for approval on to move forward we don't anticipate that all of our SRO will be eligible or will join the fund um there is a financial commitment both for the corporation and for um the officer um in order to join the fund the other great part of this is not only does it offer retirement and a pension plan like we have with our Public Employee Retirement fund but it also offers a um a service death is that line of duty um payment if if necessary and so it's an added benefit and some comfort if if something like that were to happen so um we're very supportive of this the corporation led the way to kind of help make this happen Statewide and we're excited to be able to bring this resolution this evening for your consideration anything to add there Dr long no okay thank you thank you awesome any discussion just uh a thank you to to Dr long and and chief Jackson for for working with representative Davis on this this is something I I lobed for a few years back and we couldn't couldn't get it done because they weren't eligible and there were some other issues around that too so thank you for sticking with that and getting this over the Finish Line yeah okay uh do I have a motion Madam president I move that we approve the resolution electing to join the 1977 police officers and firefighters pension and disability fund thank you Mr Alexander do I have a second second thank you Mr Russell all those in favor signify by saying I I I any opposed motion passes 4 zero thank you action item 6.4 would be to approve the 20242 student hand book revisions and Jason Andy bur okay all right good evening everybody um thanks so much for coming I'm bringing our updates for next year's handbook um as you all know each year we have a great committee that comes together that looks over the handbook make sure we stay up to date with current legislation and then obviously take care of things that are outdated so um all of these are pretty lengthy but I will say that most of it is um some grammar some outdated information um that's in there however the things that I'm going to go over today in a little bit more detail were legislated um and actually are in all four of our handbooks so Tracy's going to kind of go in between so um all the items that I'm going to go over this evening will be available to the public via board Doc tomorrow so just want to clarify that um one of the biggest changes is through Senate enrolled act 282 and so this discusses how we will address attendance um especially for our k6 students so actually this will be in the elementary middle school and the academy handbook and so a change from that legislation was that if a student is um absent five days unexcused within a 10-week period the school is to host a meeting with that child in their Guardian so um we're going to work on a protocol for our school counselors and social workers to work um with our APS and Deans to set those meetings up just to be more proactive uh make sure we're creating a plan for how to get those students to school make sure that if the parents and families need any resources we able to provide that before they get to those 10 days or 15 days which is when um probation gets involved so that will be a big change for our K through sixth grade uh families hey chrisy do you mind do you would you tell the school board how many people last year reached that um put me on the spot um it was over 2,000 this I it was 2300 that we had that had 10 unexcused absence so um obviously all of those would would have had to have that five meeting um so that's going to be a huge lift for I had one of my kids reach it one time and I told them they were the only kid in school that's not true um but we are going to be I wish you wouldn't have shared that information now I publicly for them to come see now I know I misled my child and I was trying to get them to go back to yeah and we're going to be really proactive we're going to send a letter to families to just remind them what those unexcused absence are we know vacations and things like that come up but when they do add up to those five days um every 10 weeks we will be reaching out and having that conversation and so we're just going to really hone in on that we know our students need to be in their seats to learn and so that's really important so this may be a weird question but I've had people say they just don't quite understand the whole process uh so is that something we need to look into is is is it user friendly to do the reporting or is what user friendly how we share out that number yeah or how they call in oh yeah the weite and stuff I have not done it of course so Stacy does a wonderful job with that as always with communication sharing that out with families the schools do it on back to school night we've put together some additional PowerPoints that our school counselors and social workers will prepare and share that evening um that kind of walks through how to do that but I think yes we do a great job will we need to do it more probably so we'll be really intentional on how we communicate that with families how to reach us how to um put that in Skyward so that we're able to yeah more than once is probably needed just from the standpoint oh yeah we put it out a lot my kid was fine up until December and then once I got to do it oh I forgot how it go but now again it may be step by step easily followed I don't know and our Clinic staff obviously helps with all of that too just because they'll need to do it for excuse and unexcused absences so that's a great reminder that we'll make sure we do it just seems like a high number of people it's quite a bit yes so we will be focusing on that that again is just for our six students um but that will be new because at day 10 we will be sending a letter from the well we won't the prosecutors will be sending a letter to those is just law we have to this is all law that I'm talking about right now um so that will be different for our families historically we didn't send that letter till um day 10 so it's kind of just a little change for them um so we'll do a lot with communication being more proactive making sure we're giving families the support they need to get their kids to school um we obviously want to eliminate those barriers so our kids can learn so we'll be focusing in on that as a counseling assistant principal and Dean Team in truy is on the the list of legislators uh because we weren't the only ones facing these numbers no across the state exactly yep so we thought we'd see a dip back up after covid and I don't think nationally not just Indiana we haven't seen that so can I can I make a a request in in January can we get an update as to how we're doing yeah like year over years you know whatever steps you're putting in place are we seeing an impact yeah we can definitely get some Trend data for you um our team will have to track uh that meeting with that family then we'll follow their attendance after that so I can definitely bring that back in January we can show you student we can show you as well that um our Deans and assistant principles that was one of their goals for their PLC this year and we saw our our attendance start to creep back up um but they've worked really really hard at doing that and you know since Co we are we lost that I guess that impedence to come to school every single day um but the um they worked really hard this year to make that a priority and then this law um also helps us en enforce that so um I we can show you numbers at the end of this year compared to the end of last year and then if you want to see six months you know six months after this new we can kind of show you three data points that might be good to share okay thank you and we're thankful for our Johnson County um probation partnership this is going to be a huge lift on their system as well and so we're really lucky to work with the partners we do so um we'll continue to do that a new update for all four handbooks again was just focusing in on our Center Police Department and making sure that the language um clarified and defined the role of a school resource officer during an investigation but also really intentional to update language to refle reflect best best practice so how do we use our school resource officers how do they support us how do they um follow their um best practices so that's on there another one um that is for again all four handbooks is Senate Bill 185 and this addresses being able to use wireless devices during instructional time um so we've had something similar to this in all of our handbooks really um throughout the years but we will really be focusing in on um especially at our high school making sure cell phones um airod pods watches any device is not out during instruction time unless a teacher has permitted that so that will be a lift for our teachers our students but also for our parents because I know they like to be able to check in with their students and so we'll really be encouraging some partnership with that from our teachers obviously students and then their families as well so that language is all in there um in addition last maybe board meeting um our connected learning team came and talked about um artificial intelligence or Ai and so that we know that that is ever growing so we have also added that into all four of our handbooks and so we really were just intentional and making sure we outlined the responsibility and the ethical use of that for students so I am going to read this one verbatim because H this is not my area of expertise but uh students may not use AI to violate school rules or discipline or District policies teachers will clarify if and when students are able to use AI because obviously that is a part of post uh School careers and so we want to teach them how to use it appropriately right um we want to make sure that they know the use of AI to take tests complete assignments create projects write papers or do any paperwork without permission is prohibited and would be constituted or constitutes as cheating or plagiarism then we will talk to our students about how to use AI responsible and we'll focus really in on that digital well-being so the importance of taking breaks from um social media digital world um and really watching their screen time as students so all of that language that Tes is going over has been included in all four handbooks as well the next one um due to update of board policy 2140 which speaks to the recording of meetings such as parent teacher conferences case conferences 504 meetings discipline related conferences is prohibited unless it's necessary for a par parent or Guardian to attend so we just wanted to speak to that in our handbook as well um the last one that is across all four is um Amy Norman helped us to update some of our Health Service language due to the updated CDC language so we had to um redo our definitions of vomiting skin skin sores and diarrhea so all of those have been updated to match cdc's language was real excited to say that today in front of everybody um yeah live stream um and then imag the conversations you have at home well we just wanted to be real clear so there wasn't any to go hand in hand with attendance definition should be pretty easy there you would think so if you want to go Tracy to the middle school one uh one specific update there was we really wanted to be intentional for our eighth grade students or other students too but tends to be eighth grade who are taking High School courses um we wanted to make sure we spell out that High School Credit um if a student taking that in 8th grade it will appear on their transcript and it will be a part of their high school GPA so there's been some confusion about that people thought they would maybe get like a redo their freshman year um and there are some um circumstances where if they retake the class in high school um they can replace grades but if they do not that stays permanently on there so we wanted to just make sure we spoke to that for Middle School parents um a high school specific one is just about graduating early um if students want to graduate at seventh semesters or sixth semesters we've really outlined what that'll look like um again thinking futuristically with the proposed diplomas we'll probably have to tweak that again um but for next school year we'll stick with the update there and then the last one was specific to the academy just because their time schedule is a little different um we just wanted to put in there that parents and Guardians need to let the office know by 10: a.m.
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