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testing testing one two 3 testing e e e all right I would like to call this I would like to call this board meeting to order this is the cre mon School Board 201u Committee of whole today is Tuesday October 8 2024 18:30 military time 6:30 p.m.
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[Music] hi and welcome to another edition of all politics is local on this episode of all politics is local we're going to be talking about question one which is on the ballot the state AUD Auditors authority to audit the legislature a yes vote would specify that the state auditor has the audit has the authority to audit the legislator a no vote would make no change to the law relative to the state auditor Authority in other words to look at what the house and the Senate are doing up on Beacon Hill and audit those we brought on the program tonight a former State Rep and I've been working with the state auditor's office on this question for quite some time Lenny mea Lenny welcome to all politics local thanks for joining us John thanks for having me on pleasure to be here it's an honor to have so let let's tell the audience a little bit of your background a little bit I mean you were a former State Rep uh we're a state rep for quite some time tell us a little bit about your background and then more importantly how you got involved with question one yeah so I was a state rep for 10 years representing the second Essex district and I came into the legislature ran for the first time in 2012 and that just happened to be the same time that Diana ran the state rep for the first time as well she was a State Rep from methan and we both represented part of haal for a number of years so we've worked on issues before and we think very much alike uh we're very good friends um I got her on speed dial she's got my number too and so when she was embarking on this you know one of the things we always agreed on was the very desperate need of more openness and transparency on Beacon Hill something that's severely lacking it's it's actually quite an embarrassment that we have one of the least transparent states in the entire country and we think that leads to a very bad place it leads to a lot of waste and Corruption and so this is just one small step that we can take to address that and so when she wanted to uh audit the legislature uh she had asked her permission and they weren't about to give it so she took this rout of putting it on the ballot and that of course required uh two separate instances of collecting signatures to get it on the ballot and it took quite a bit of work uh because a lot of the signatures that we gathered were discarded for whatever reason a stray Mark or a fold on a ballot sheet so we had to collect over and above the number necessary to get on the ballot we did that twice uh and we were successful and it is now on the bout it will be question one and uh we're feeling very good about it let's back up a little bit because um as you know you and I were talking before the camera started rolling here today you know I was a selectman uh been in local government for quite some time in state government for some time like you said you were a State Rep when I was the chairman of the board of Selectmen uh you know I had foyer requests done on me all the time I had public records requests done on me all the time and I never sh shied away from it yeah I mean there were a couple times when I had to call the local newspaper and go I didn't say what you have you know in quotes around me but that's a little bit different than even like the public records request but when you were in the legislature those same laws that applied to me as a local official didn't apply to you as a State Rep or a state senator and I think 95% of the public goes really I we would just assume that they the laws would be the same but they're not right that's exactly right we've Exempted our well the legislature Exempted itself from open meeting laws and so they don't have to discuss anything in the uh in the open they the public will never know how they debated any kind of Bill we're Chef John our legislation doesn't even know let the public know how our members vote in committees so we submitt a lot of bills every year we submit over 6,000 bills and um if you submit them by a certain dat they supposedly get a hearing quote unquote a hearing but the public will never know what was said about those bills they'll never know how the members voted on those bills nor will they see any of the testimony given on those bills even with a foe request and I can't think of another state in the entire country that does this it is just outrageous people should know not only how the rest of the um not they're all state repid state senator but they should know how all the State Rep and state senators voted on a bill in committee and they can't even find that out now to clarify will question one change any of this let's let's say you're successful with question one and it gives the state auditor the audit will that will any of that change or will this just give the auditor to publicly disclose you know audit findings yeah that's a great question but if you look up the role of the auditor um you will see that it has an official um explanation and description of the job it's to conduct audits investigations and studies to promote accountability and transparency improve performance and make government work better and you know it's it's going to lead to something that um a dirty little secret it's not a secret anymore uh the Boston Globe is done a good job reporting on all the additional titles and positions created by leadership in both the House and Senate and to put it bluntly John like the house Speaker created a whole bunch of phony baloney titles and positions that come with gigantic raises in tens of thousands of dollars and of course to get one of these positions all you have to do is do whatever the speaker tells you to do and that's what leads to our current situation uh with an embarrassing lack of transparency so to to become a committee chair you just do whatever the speaker says and you'll get a gigantic raise and like the globe reported a lot of these committees aren't even meeting like they haven't met once the entire session um we we Consolidated power on Beacon Hill so that a tiny number of individuals maybe three four five people and the whole building decide every bill that gets passed or doesn't get passed and and the public never hears discussion on that and their State Rep State Centers have virtually no say and um they've been bought they've been bought and paid for and it's shameful um and it's our hope that an audit will expose this like who is getting these positions how much are they getting paid and and what is being traded in exchanged for that because it's not supposed to work this way that's not democracy when we have 160 State reps and 40 Senators okay so 200 legislators legislators and all the decisions are made by like three or for them it's not supposed to be that way not to oversimplify it and please correct me if I I misspeak here uh essentially a state rep's job everybody's tax dollars flows to Beacon Hill a state ref's job is to make sure that your proportionate money flows back to your district is is am I over that's one of the many jobs you have yeah absolutely and if there's no transparency how can you look your constituents in the eye and go well yeah you're getting you know western Mass is getting you know the same as you know uh North sure prove it to me you can't prove it you know so I mean will that will the this allow for more transparency about where the money's going as well yeah I think it will so keep in mind that the House and Senate get their own budgets it's in the millions of dollars and so speaks to spend his budget the way he wants and Senate President Karen SP gets to spend her money the way she wants to and it's in the millions of dollars and we don't really know how and where it's getting spent I mean I think we do an outside audit that gives just broad perimeters in dollar amounts but it doesn't really tell the whole story you know I think one of the things they're afraid of is it might show something embarrassing like they spent a million dollars fixing a bathroom in the Senate chambers or something ridiculous like that but they should still make that public and just get it out there and just press up to it but the the real secret is how much is being spent um on these extra committee assignments these extra titles and are they needed um the public has a right to know that and it's it's something that is shielded it's it's hidden from View and even people in the media aren't able to find that information uh the globe has started to report on it they're doing a fairly good job um but I don't think it tells the whole story you know it's a nonpartisan rant uh but I'm also a housing commissioner I'm a governor appointee to my local housing authority and we get audited every year and I look that's right I look forward to it and I appreciate it you know I've literally had Auditors tell me did you really need that box of pins did you really need did you really need to you know buy that doormat yeah we did you know I mean yeah we bought a box of pins in a doormat and like you're giving me a hard time about it like you know and we won't buy it next year because you know but so it's good that the transparency is there but then we're hearing millions of dollars in the house in the Senate are not are not being audited uh I I think this is going to be great so what are you hearing on the ground when you go I know Diane is I thought it you know my words and I mean it complimentary I thought it was wonderful how she's doing this walking tour right now uh I think the videos were great uh I think they were very effective and she's literally walking across the state trying to get this thing past let's talk a little bit about what you're hearing on the ground yeah she is walking from west to east across the entire commwell and you'll see pictures and videos yeah literally walking and you'll see pictures and videos posted on social media on Facebook here's the thing what you mentioned she is posing with everybody a lot of Democratic town committee people are meeting with her um the Republican Party the mass go came out and helped her collect signatures for this um this is a nonpartisan issue it should not be partisan here's the other thing John not only should it not be partisan it should not be controversial this is something the legislators should just agree to and they could and in fact they used to agree to audits on a regular basis so she to a Committee hearing um that the legisl put on for all the questions and of course they questioned her about this and said you know why do you need to do this we never did before and she was ready she knew they were going to go down this path and she had a cart full of books full of previous audits we used to audit all the time you know 100 years ago we were doing audit so what happened within the last 100 years that makes this current CR legislators think that they don't have to be audited if anything this problem more than any before them needs to be audited um I think they used to be subject to open meeting laws uh and for your requests and now they're not so now more than ever they should just simply agree to the audit and they are not and it's absolutely shameful we shouldn't have to go through this process but we are and we think it's going to PEX we find that it's popular with everyone the only people we're finding that are not in favor of this um are uh the Democrats in the House and Senate they're the only ones uh the the Republicans I talk to in office seem to have no problem with this offit with this audit uh Ju Just you know for the viewing audience so they understand it will this apply to the governor office as well I think the governor's office already gets audited so does the Attorney General's office so does our Judiciary so this argument that it's Crossing you know the lines of of the different branches of government I think is a fallacious argument she audits every entity like you said every housing authority every Transportation agency and if she can audit the Attorney General's office and if she can audit the Judiciary then she ought to be able to audit the legislature I mean b basically the Senate holds the checkbook in the Commonwealth right the House and Senate control the pocketbook the CSE strings correct so and if you don't want to a I mean if you don't audit your own checkbook how do you even know what you're spending money on that's exactly right and I just it's checks I think everybody just wants to know hey you know how much money do we have this month you know I don't think that you're going to find this but let's just say you find out you have more money and you can you know give it to you know law enforcement you can give it to schools and stuff like that or more importantly to find out where the boat is laking because I want to talk a little bit about this because the boat is leaking in Massachusetts you see you know uh revenue is down especially in Boston state revenue has been down what 10 out of the last 11 months I think the revenue has been down it's fair to say costs have been up because of the migrant crisis uh and uh so I think the timing is great on this bill uh to come in and audit the legislature but let's let's just talk a little bit about you know the the health of the Commonwealth I mean what are your concerns as a as a former legislature where where's your head at on that I think is great when we have a growing economy and revenue was coming in above expectations and for most of um the eight years on Charlie Baker that's what we had revenues came in higher than expectations and so we did something very smart we put a lot of it in our rainy day fund okay I think we have a record amount like five billion dollars in that rainy day fund which is great because it helps our bond rating which lowers our borrowing costs uh it's a good thing all around but then you know the economy doesn't grow every year John you and I have been around logging up to know that it's always expansion and contraction we're going to have it a recession at some point and so revenues will come in below expectations so what are we going to do when that happens like you said we have a migrant crisis uh in the state that is costing us billions of dollars and here's the scary part I don't think there's a single person anywhere in the state that knows what we're spending on migrants or on immigration both legal and illegal I don't think anyone is keeping tabs on all that because this will cost uh for every aspect of it we just had to come up with another billion dollars for emergency housing for them but that doesn't include the food the clothing the health care doesn't include what we spend on having their kids in our schools because we have something called English English language Learners elll that requires us to teach in their language so now we have to hire additional teachers to teach in their language so what is that costing us and better yet what's the long-term plan we're coming up with emergency funding to fund the costs right now but what about next year or the year after that and what happens in a recession if if revenues come in below expectation and we still have this migrant crisis and then in the background of all of it is of course the housing crisis where we don't even have enough housing for our current residents so it adds up to a very bad place well it's going to drive up the price of housing because it's supply and demand supply and demand always drives up the you know cost of housing so you know kids coming out of college getting into the workforce you know want to get out of mom and dad's house how they can't there's no Supply two that Supply just went up6 s $800 a month and you're you're fighting against you know other people for that apartment um so you're driving up the price of Housing and like I said I have a lot of experience as a housing commissioner and I get so frustrated every good politician will run an ad and say we need more affordable housing and I'm right there with him we do need more affordable housing but what is definition of what is Affordable housing number one and number two where are you going to build it and you know the most and you know this from being in a legislator the most powerful force in all of politics is nism not in my backyard where in Massachusetts that is predominantly built out for the most part are you going to build these millions of homes that you need to solve this migrant crisis and even the regular housing crisis for normal people and we haven't even touched on low-income senior citizens or homeless veterans yet so I mean uh it's Madness it's the math doesn't work uh you know uh so how's it going to work and how much billions of dollars are going to have to be spent to make it work billions of dollars gonna have to be spent no matter what but you actually touched upon something else that um got exposed um through this process of of you know a lack of transparency I'm I'm talking about 3A or MBTA housing something that is immensely unpopular here in eastern Mass where just about every city in town now has this mandate to create more housing so the state is forcing cities and towns to set aside a certain number of acres for multif family housing and the way that it came down is absolutely shameful we never should have passed that bill um but here's what happened a bunch a tiny number of people were working on this housing aspect with the bill and um they snuck this 3A rule into a broader Economic Development package a back a bill that was over a thousand pages long and then they dump on the legisl said okay we're voting on this tomorrow well no one read a thousand Pages overnight nobody did and it didn't matter anyways because you know 90% of the legislature is Democrat and like I said just about every one of them is bought and paid for by leadership they just do whatever the speaker and the Senate President tell them so this got push through without any real debate and the public never got a chance to look at it or hear about it the legl I don't remember anything about um this NBTA zoning in that bill but it the way it read is that even the small towns where I live at okay I live in Georgetown I had Groveland West Newbery Bost little towns that are nowhere near an NBTA station we don't have a we don't even have a bus stop here but somehow we're in MBTA town and so this mandate got that's got slapped on us and the residents justifiably are spitting mad over it and you know part of it is nimia like you mentioned John but a part of it is we had no say in this and now we have no control over this and this is what happens in a secretive legis that does not do its job appropriately by not having public hearings and debates on important bills like MBTA housing and now we're saddled with this thing and here's the the worst part I don't think it's really going to work I don't think it's really going to see a lot of housing built they're saying you their their number is 200,000 I'd be surprised if they got even half that amount through MBTA hous because of the way it's being implemented and cities and towns don't want it uh and in fact today I heard Milford I think or Milton ended up in the courts for the SJC just this morning I don't know what happened but they're fighting it tooth and nail as are a lot of cities and towns but it just points to another reason why we need much more transparency and openness in our legislation because things like this will keep happening John if we don't do something about it you know this is a snowballs effect like you said nobody in the legislature read a thousand page bill either no way find me a town counselor or a select board member that's read thousand pages of that and has explain to them or and no disrespect to any counselor or select board member or any Town counsil find me a town C what town is going to pay your Town Council sit down and read that thousand page document and come back and dumb it down for the rest of our board and explain it to them oh by the way here's the bill you know that's gonna be even on a retainer that that it's going to cost a city or town a lot of money so nobody really understands what's in it and like you said it's probably not going to work I applaud the effort to build more housing but I don't think this Avenue is going to work that's why transparency in government is so important and that's why you know one is so important exactly right let's talk about it I I'm confident that question one is going to pass because I think both you know like nonpartisan people want transparency you know yeah uh I think people appreciate transparency uh I think people appreciate accountability hopefully this will bring it so what happens on November 5th this gets voted in unanimously in or you know you win you know 8020 I think is what you're going to get what's the process after that yeah that's a really good question so the question is what happens next session when the new legislature gets sworn in in January so will these new state reps and state senators vote to support the will of the voters or are they going to side with their party's leadership and that is the big question because this has happened before uh we had allocations on tax cuts on capital punishment on campaign Finance reform and voters you know voted emphatically on those ballot questions uh thinking that okay this will be the new law only to learn in a few months that the new legislator just decided no we're not we're just going to do what we want and we're not going to honor the will of the voters and that is just criminal it is catastrophic and it shouldn't happen but you know that was years ago uh we talked earlier about that tax cut we in back in the year 2000 we voted to lower the tax rate to 5% we got there but it took 20 years to get there um but that was a different time uh now with with social media uh and the way news travels fast on the internet I'm hoping that the public will be more aware of what the legislature is doing and that they you know hold them accountable and and tell their state reps and State Centers no we want this we want the legislature to get audited and we expect you to vote in support of our wishes and um and if there's State Rep state senator does not do that I hope they're held accountable um which by the way would be a help keep in mind uh um most of our seats go uncontested we actually have one of the least competitive elections in America which is another thing that you know it's not to be proud of and uh maybe this helps change that so so the legislature could just ignore the will of the people let's hope that it doesn't happen but they could ignore the will of the people what then it is the recourse for the people can this go to court does this get uh mitigated in court or is it just you're going to have to vote out the people who don't want the transparency that's a great question um and if and if I had to bet if I had to whip out my crystal ball I'm predicting that it's probably GNA go to court no matter what because I the legisl might try to challenge it in court first to give them an out to not follow it um I hope it doesn't go that way I mean like I said what what should happen John is the Senate President and the house speakers should just say okay the people have spoken we should do what the people have asked us to do just get audited that's what should happen um but like I said history shows that um Beacon Hill doesn't work that way so it's a very good question and you know what your guess is as good as mine as to what will happen next session interesting uh you know the auditor was a former State Rep and state senator and now she works she still works up at the State House you know in the at Beacon Hill in the office you know I mean like anything you hear chatter inside the hallways uh what you know is she getting the cold shoulder from her former colleagues or is she you know quietly getting hey you know good job you're you're doing a real great job with this I mean what what's the reaction to be I mean because I've been on both sides of an argument before you know like they say if you want a friending politics get a dog because your your best friend today might be your work tomorrow so what what's what's the feedback up on Beacon Hill I mean other than you know the power Brokers you know of course yeah that's a great question so I'm not in the building much anymore I I went to tell find a couple of bills that I had for them that was about it um talk to as many legislators as I can I write a newsletter called the mirror memo where I talk to them as well and write about it um I think right now the ranking file are kind of just taking a hands-off approach okay we're only hearing from speaker Mariano and president Stila uh we're not really hearing from the rank and file so much so I've been writing a newsletter about races and I only asked two questions and it's about question one do you support the Otter's attempts to a leg and and number two do you support the safe communities act which would make Massachusetts a sanctuary State those are the only two questions I asked and so every single Republican I've talked to said no I don't support either one of those uh but the Democrats are just not answering the question so it's a you bring up a good point joh what are they going to do next session if they're still in office are they going to support the will of the voters or are they going to support their party's leadership uh I'm not hearing anything from the rank and file on the the Democrat side so Lenny we never have enough time here on all Politics as local but I want I want to run down a couple things real quick before we let you go we're we you're here to talk about question one and we really appreciate the Insight that you brought tonight question one the state auditor authority to audit the legislature question two on the ballot and like I said all politics is local these things are more important than you know what's going to happen between Trump and Harris you know Trump and Harris probably AR going to affect Lenny's life and John life all that much I mean they can but on a on a local level you can be affected a lot more and this is a big one elimination question too elimination of mcast is a high school graduation requirement uh that's probably going to be a contentious one on the at the polls yeah it is mcast or keep the mcast so and it's a complicated one too because um when I served a lot of a lot of Educators wanted to do something about we spent a lot of time and effort on M and on testing in general um you know we have SATs lsats we have entrance exams to colleges and so it's a lot of time and money on testing and it's a lot of stress on students and so when I first started to hear about this mcast question I was thinking all right maybe we can alleviate some of the expense in time question two wouldn't do that we would still have mcash John the only thing question two would do is take away the graduation requirement from it and a lot of people are against it because they think that a a high school diploma at that point will be meaningless it'll be worthless because it doesn't really show anything and so you know it took a long time to get mcast passed was passed a long time ago it took a lot of effort to get there but I think once we passed it it improved the schools in Massachusetts and in fact I would go out on a limb here and say that Massachusetts you know we we criticize our state for a lot of things but we get education right and I dare say we have the best public educational system in America today I went to Public Schools graduate from W High School I sent my two sons to public high school we moved to this area because I wanted to go to Pentucket High School where they got a great education um and because of mcast I think we you know we have what is probably the best educational system in America today so taking away the requirement I don't think is a good thing and um I'm kind of siding on a no vote I think we should keep the uh requirement only because we're running out of time the elections on Tuesday November 25th 2024 you can do early voting now you can also you know vote by mail if you've already probably received your ballots Lenny give a 30 second recap of question one and why people should uh pay attention to it yeah you know like I I written before any government entity that claims it should not be audited should absolutely be audited uh for too long we've had this embarrassing reputation as the least transparent state government in America um that's not something to be proud of it's something that leads to a very bad place uh so I hope the voters get out there on November 5th and vote how you want up and down the ballot you're going to vote for a president you're going to vote for a US senator please vote Yes on question one uh it's for the betterment of the entire commonweal it is a nonpartisan issue it should not even be a controversial issue I hope it passes by a wide margin we say it here all the time on all politics is local if you don't vote you lose your right to complain it's an important for many different reasons here so get out and vote Tuesday November 5th 2024 you've been watching all politics is local and we'll talk again real soon [Music]
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okay good evening I would like to call this meeting of the Berlin Boon Regional school committee to order just a remind that this meeting is being recorded your image and or voice may be broadcast please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and okay we'll have a public comment is anyone here that would like to make a public comment no okay all right great um Communications does anyone have any Communications they would like to share the group we're GNA fly through this okay so tonight we're going to do something a little different than we've done in the past we're going to um well first let's approve the consent agenda okay could I please have a motion to approve the consent agenda so lri second Jess right any discussion on this consent agenda we have some warrants in here for the first time question I signed off DE the um I'll U explain warrants um in my Advan update I'll explain we did bring them as well too yeah it was the cleaned up stuff from the summer that they've been working on for since Dan started anything what TMS the answer is no we're not not not now all right any other discussion so those wars were not in the Drive um no no we usually just put the page of my signature we're not going to put every again I'd be happy dance uh but uh I little and I have it in my little narrative here that if the chair signs off on the warrant that the school buiness official uh would then be required to bring the warrant to a school committee uh what I will do um if you don't mind I'll hold off until we get to that P of the meeting um is that I'll give you the values to vote and then I'll give you a really really brief snapshot as to what's in each warrant so you know when you're voting on and then um at the end of the evening you are welcome it is your prerogative uh to review the warrants uh that are behind me on the table here it's a lot of paper killed a lot of trees I love paper yeah but also I know you're going through a chair has and can do is bring come here early and bring the ons with us early so this way you get a chance to review them before you bu off those as well too um so even though Megan might sign off and those as a chair um but to have them available for you phot the being starts we and that's something we can do for you guys top so you get a chance to before your vote all right so what we used to do is we would just we wouldn't have all the invoices we would just have the summary page Nicole would scan the summary page into the drive and people could review that so they could at least see what was being paid for the meeting so it's fine that it didn't happen this time yeah Dan but we could do that moving forward chair G A yeah best practices and we're not there yet um superintendent on day 20 I'm on day 16 or whatever as we say to each other so what what should happen in a perfect world and we're going to get there you're going to get there is that um the committee should receive a copy of each respective warrant warrant 101 whatever um with the value and the respective reports that go with that warrant and uh then you're you're free to look at it and if you have any questions about any of the invoices you're you're more than happy to to raise that question um that's in a perfect world um and uh it's also U for the the payroll warrant as well that you should receive the payroll warrant from from the payroll director um and then on an email that goes to the treasurer and school visit official um the payroll director would say uh please finding detach warrant uh payroll warrant 101 uh with a value of $500,000 uh please approve the treasurer typically then sign says um the file transfer has been done payroll is funded $500,000 and then the committee would then vote to approve the payroll one I know that we're getting way ahead of ourselves um but that's best practice if I may um if we could just table this discussion on the AP warrants do vote on the consent agenda to then yep good idea so I did already sign just to be clear I signed off on the warrant and the bills have been paid because I the committee designated me as the author not as the chair I was voted by the committee to review the warrants and sign off and then we approve as part of the consent agenda but we can wait to vote until after d report all right so the motion was on the table it was seconded so we're going to take a vote now and then we'll we can we can move to table the topic until all right report all right so we're g to move to table the topic until later in the meeting I make that motion yes thank you okay second all right all in favor I I all right I'm an i as well so we'll table that all right so first thing we're going to do tonight like I said we're going to do things a little bit differently tonight we're going to enter enter into an executive session this has to do with um the contract for the par professionals the school committee is going to exit the room so all of you can stay here we're gonna uh see if there's any questions on that contract there were two people designated um to do the negotiations from the committee uh it was lri and Mike and they spent a lot of time this summer working on that with I think Cindy was on the committee I don't know who else John oh Janelle okay thank you yeah so um we finally have a finished product and um tonight we are going to vote I believe the vote will be in Open Session um to ratify the contract but we're going to enter into executive session to discuss the contract for anyone that has any questions and Cole has paper copies and and chat about it if needed all right so could I please have a motion to enter into executive session pursuant to Massachusetts general laws chapter 38 section 21A purpose three to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining or litigation if any open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the bargaining or litigating position of the public body and the chair so declares and this topic is the par professional contract so moved lii Mike all in favor I right as well right we'll move into the conference room yeah question go be time what you [Laughter] getday e e e all right yes yes unless it's on the agenda as a yeah are we on okay all right could I please have a motion to enter back into Open session so move second Lai and Julie we're gonna do a roll call vote uh Jess hi Julie I lri hi Mike I'm an i as well all right we're back in Open Session um so we are going to vote right now uh to approve the par professional Union contract so could I please have a motion to approve uh the contract as we reviewed it um for the par professional Union so L and Mike any discussion on that point to Parliament to inquiry so what is it has to be two-third majority to pass yes and so right now there's only five correct so what do even fourth f so if four people vote in favor of it it would pass no five people have to vote in favor of it to pass two3 25 sorry three chair why are we thinking 23s are not majority I don't know no only four 2/3 four yeah 2/3 is four why I don't know some stuff is two3 majority where get I I I don't I'm not getting it from anywhere it doesn't matter four is majority four is a majority here and four is a two3 majority all right any more discussion on that okay we'll do a roll call vote on that one um M Lori I Julie I Jess I'm gonna obain okay I'm I um so that motion passes so through chair I will speak to um the Paris that have been reaching out to us to find out this has passed and I'm sure they're paying attention on the meeting as well too let know passed um to subcommittee and Janelle and Cindy thanks for your great work on this because this really was was good work to Mike and Lai um thank you very much for this work you guys did on this um it's a it's a nice piece for us to have especially as we're going into teacher negotiations as well to and having a contract with yeah thank you thank you y okay so we're going to move forward with the reports so for my chair's report um one so one thing we need to start thinking about is hiring a full-time superintendent while we would love to keep Al on forever that is just not possible and the reason for that for anyone listening that doesn't understand the reason for that is because he is already a retired super superintendent so we were lucky to bring him on but the way the state works is you can't retire and then go back and work for a district um without a waiver so we're pretty sure we're going to get the waiver for the year um but we really are going to need somebody on board by middle of next year most likely um so that being said I think that um it would be prudent of us to at least start thinking about the the hiring process for the superintendent um the permanent super endent so I would like to um get people's feedback but I would like to appoint lii if she's interested and willing um to be the chair of the superintendent hiring subcommittee and how that will work is I think a few people have already from the community have already stepped forward and we'll have um a group of people teachers administrators um central office folks parents students students yep elect in last year yep Town officials yep whoever is interested in serving on this committee um and L will be the representative from the school committee if somebody else wants to go from the school committee that's great I I am not going to um so if there's somebody else that wants to be part of the process the only thing I ask is that if you are going to be part of it you need to be part of the entire thing um and the way it works is lri will all the resumes that come in will post the position um we'll work with masc to do a formal search um and then as candidates come in lii will review the resumés and bring in people for interviews and the first round of interviews will be with said committee um there'll be set questions that are asked of every candidate and the committee will do a grading system of each candidate so that we can try to keep some consistency in how we're viewing each candidate and then the finalists will move on um and we're absolutely going to have Al meet with them um probably have Dan or Aaron whoever is here at that point um myself and then obviously the full committee is going to meet with the candidate and the finalists um and then we'll make a decision we'll vote in public so um without further Ado unless does anyone I don't know if anyone has oh let me make the motion first so um could I please have a motion to appoint um Mrs Lian Hart as the chair of the superintendent search committee mik I need a second yeah a second I second and then we can discuss yeah yeah all right now we can discuss okay so in L of this being a um um a big search a careful and thoughtful search would it behoove um and John you may be able to know this because you were on you gathered all the applications for the principal search would it behoove the committee to have two people to split work I think it might be a lot for Lori to do so so just through the chair masc this is the world right we pay them our annual fee each year help us do this work they're the ones that help advertise this they're the ones that help bring all this stuff together for us and we'll work closely it they want to point person to Megan's point they want one they want one person to work with but they we pay an annual fee to them let's use it right and and let them help work and and do that search and we can actually have them come in and do a presentation to us to make sure we want Mas to lead the search we want NE to lead the search do we want other people to come and lead the search MC does a great job they have those connections and have those things but um they they do a lot of the leg work for us but they want to point person okay so the last time I I happen to be on the search for super I actually have the handout which just happened to be in this folder um and I know last time there were two school committee members there was someone who led it um and um the AL is going also going to help me to organize as well but I do like the of having another member with me just you don't to do all the work it's a lot so I am definitely not interested is there anyone else that is interested I won't be here that's what I mean not here iome negotiation I'm also interested as well because I wasn't involved the last oh Jess you were involved with this uh for Jeff okay um all right so what do you think three is that too many or I I I think I think everyone in Schoop is going to be an opportunity to be on this committee anyways so it all depends what SE segments they want I think the masc is going to say great if you you don't want three on there that's fine it's all going to go to you eventually but they just need a contact person so L is gonna be the point person and then if Jess and Mike wna be you want to go to all the first round interviews is what you're saying no I don't he the one but if I could just suggest yeah before you start interviewing the committee have a discussion maybe it's an executive session maybe it's not I don't know but as it relates to negotiating a future contract with whoever this person will be yes just make sure the committee is on board with what they want in a superintendent I agree I think that yep and that way whoever is the point person or whoever is looking through the resumés will know what we're looking for um sorry through the chat even when I when I did bu hon wilham they they did community outreach right so m had like one in Berlin one in wolston and they brought people together and said hey what are you looking for right and they took that information that's the leg work they do for us and they come back and say Here's what your community is looking for we appreciate what school commun is looking for but here's what the the other communities are looking for us all right so and the other thing is I think that um whoever the point person is lii I think you have to kind of remain neutral similar to how we brought up the principal searches John was the moderator for that he remained extremely neutral in all that he was pretty much just doing all of the administrative work kind of like the leg work so his opinion wasn't coming out until afterwards when he had you know had private conversations so the I think the point person isn't there to sway the committee more to listen to the committee and see what everybody is uh saying about the candidate so as for the other school committee members that are on this committee I think it's going to be important to remember to Al's point we're going to have our chance obviously if there's somebody that you're like oh my God no no no no no you need to voice that but um I think we need just need to kind of keep that in mind too that I think this should be we want to hear the voices from everybody else right um so that you know and and I think Meg to a point having Mike and S like a subcommittee right Gathering all this information and and it could literally be subcommittee for a superintendent search right that's okay to have that and they're going to bring the information school committe but they just want a point person like instead of going to all you know everybody who's po all right so the motion on the table is to have lii be the chair of this subcommittee um let's vote on that and then we can um make a separate motion to add two members we'll make a separate motion to add Jess and Mike to that subcommittee does that work for everybody okay all right all in favor I I all right I'm an i as well that motion passes okay could I please have a motion to add Mrs Jessica deoy and Mr Michael Topman um as the two members to the superintendent search subcommittee so sari second Jess all right any discussion on that I also think it's great you have someone from Berlin someone W great yeah perfect think I think the community will feel good about yeah yeah that's great all right I love it all right all in favor I I and I as well any any Mike you said I right okay um okay that was my chair's report I'm glad we got that done uh the only other thing I wanted to say is it's going to tie into what Dan has to say we are still working diligently with um cleaning up the central office I think that from my perspective um I'm only looking at it from bird's eye view but I am getting updates probably more frequently than others um it it seems like things are moving along and I'm pleased with the progress and pleased with the work that both Alan and Dan have been doing an Aaron um who isn't even on board yet um so you know from the bottom of my heart thank you for the hours and the time and the sweat um and the grit that you guys have both showed um in in moving the office forward it's greatly appreciated and I just want everyone to know that and again please be patient but they're moving in the right direction and that's all I have I I think we're going to lay some really ground work for the next superintendent comes in here will'll be be able to take the reings and and really make some good things happen in this District because there are some really great things in place okay um if through the chair I can just give a brief over I know I know Dan's got a lot he wants to talk about financially um just a little update on a couple things verus mcast data um as I'm sure you heard by now across the state the data does not look as good as we were hoping it would look in almost all categories um student performance went went down um so I was sitting on a a conference call with um with all the superintendents as we're discussing and looking at the data as a whole um we we have some concerns as well too and we as principes and administrators have St to look at that data um we just got the boxes in literally um maybe a few days ago um but please know that the next schol meeting on November 12th we'll be giving our presentation to you guys um it's going to be two folds that we'll give to you the first one will be showing the data and and let you see exactly what it looks like and I know a lot of you have access to that your own individual students but also What's happen the community but also with with that what's our next steps now what we're going to do here's our data what what what is our plan in place and that's going to be a huge impact for you guys because we as a Ministry is going to be coming to you and say with that we're going to need some financial support with that as well too whether it be some additional pars whether it be some additional support some additional programs um additional textbooks whatever working number what our next steps will be that will be what we need to work from you guys as a school we need to support us on that and helping us get get those things accomplished so please know I appreciate your patience um I'm glad we were able to hold it off to November 12th so we can really do um a Thal presentation for you um John and Sally and I already had a chance to meet and stop looking at it um we've really been focusing on this executive session this school commun we're having now before we roll out that next one so um just be prepared on November 12 that will happen um next thing I want to talk about publicly is um what took place here on September 12th at at Tanto um there was a safety event that took place here at Tanto High School um I want to compliment the the students staff in administration and school committee as well too um you were you right there be able to to keep me to keep you informed um as well as to uh listen as well to what was taking place I also want to to thank the local and State Police as well as the fire departments for for the quick response and the way they were handling things um please know there are many things that we did after Le and I applaud our community for doing that but we also discovered that there areas that we need to address um we'll be doing a very deep dive in the events of what took place that morning at Tonto in executive session um there are many there are very limited reasons to go in executive session um at this T and this is certainly one of them um the goal of sharing this an executive session is is to work on fixing and modifying or changing some of our responses um sharing the up with school committee so we can get your input and and your feedback on that as well too um but at the same time um we're doing it an executive session because when we show some of the weaknesses here um we want to make sure that there are some people in this world as we know when we're paying attention to the news of what's happening this world that might use those weaknesses for their advantages and our job is to keep this community in this District safe um I'm going to introduce to you shortly um a gentleman that's in in our in our little pen our audience although I think he stepped out um stepped out you got take a phone call Rob Belle will be working with us as well too um and we'll talk about him and work with him in executive session he is a a safety liaison and um he has many years of experience that will be helping us put some procedures and processes in place what I can tell you is that September since September 18 um we have a number of things that we have put in place and one of the the major things that we've done um with working with h is we've had the district attorney come in um Julia vinski who works for the da um and I can honestly say I'm sure ah performance student of mine um did two really great presentations to our our high school um at the middle school and at the high school as well too um great job really talk to the kids about safety really talk to kids about Internet safety and and about things that you do now even in sixth grade how they can impact your life right if you're making good decisions or if you're making not so good decisions um the next step and I'm looking for feedback from the community as well as spy is that she's going to do a family a community for we'll do it by Zoom right and that will be a lot easier this we'll be able to have everyone together and stuff um so she's willing to do that ready to do that but we felt it was important to get get to our students first and our faculty um at at Tanto and then we're going to roll that out to the community so again I I look forward to talking to you guys about dates that work for everybody and we'll go from there um with regards to um I'm sorry in the two dates that she came just for for the record is is September 30th and October 8th at the district maor's office C with regards to our Administration work um working Clos to with Sally on more and better atat trate um so one of the things that we're going to be doing as an ad team is is going for that tra again right we need to get that part about sometimes all consistent in evaluation systems right and that came even when I was in hamon wilham even in Wester we need to be consistent and that's something we're going to be doing here so we're coordinating that as well too um the other part you we're working on right now you might be seeing some individuals walking around we have some a mentorship program that takes place we have some mentors that are working with our first year and just we're going to do some mentors with Administration as well too um we started our first one working at the high school with Lisa we have Lisa julan who is a retired um administrator who was a a principal for over 25 years both as a principle the middle school at the high school she's now working with our community as well too and helping us and supporting our our our ad Administration as well too so um those are sort of things that we're putting in place and and we're we're excited about that um the last thing I guess I I just want to say um I appreciate what Megan has said I appreciate um school committee um their support and as well as our principles and our community I we're working on things we're we're trying to continue to move forward in a good direction um and and just know that our goal here is not to keep changing things but it's to make sure we're not keeping status quo as well to so that's the work that we're really focus on and trying to get done um I I said it when I first was interviewed here um this is a really good school district and and our goal um with finance and and and admin is to make it even a great school district and that's the work we'll be doing so with that being said uh that is my report to the school thank you questions thank you yeah go ahead yeah Jess um the beginning you said uh that MC results were disappointing were you referring to just our district or Statewide on the Statewide Statewide yeah they were they were pretty low across um and again you know there is some validity saying covid but that's getting sort of old with us as administrators and and us as superintendent as well too um but there is there there there were not good results for the state of Massachusetts but it's a Massachusetts test across the board so was that brought up what's that like it's only a Massachusetts test ter of being validated the whole state did poorly is that being looked at yes that's that's the work that I'm not doing that's the work that department of education is doing CU that was on the call as well absolutely right so the state is just in Massachusetts they give the mcast right and so across the state if you go on the pop ucation website you can see it there there was very little growth across um and in some areas we're going to show you on November that we we we did better in some situations better than the state did um but still that's not the growth that we want to see but we're we're getting there so and it was the same test as last year it's a different test every year it changes a little bit right um some the different questions they don't have the same questions every year um and there are people that they superintendence retired that help create those questions for that test but it is a different set of questions they ask each years similar themes right in ela and math and science but a different set of questions we got work to do across the state as well in our district as well too I guess I'm curious if the whole state did poorly if has to do with the mcast itself that's my question I don't know and I and unfortunately our next meeting is after some valid questions that are relevant to that yeah but just that's not for all mcast just know that right that's not for students in the elementary schools and all that it is specific and if through the chair if you're okay yeah yeah so can I put you on the spot Lisa because I know you did a great job explaining it just for when you're talking to parents at your open house would you mind just oh absolutely so the ballot question is whether or not the mcash should be a graduation requirement the state has put a lot of time and money into developing mcast at every level it will not be going away as a metric for um accountability so the state will continue I'm confident that the state will continue to use it as a metric of accountability um but maybe you know depending on what the ballot question so what no matter how you vote on the ballot question it doesn't mean that mcast will not exist it it will always exist in some way shape or form and let's be clear the money that's a tied that's tied to the mcast as well too the money we're getting from the federal federal government based on that mcast as well too not on our stores but that we're ministering the mcast and just to that point we'll talk about it I don't want to go deep on that November it's one assessment right we should be looking at whether it's good b or and different it's one assessment but the things that we're going to show you is some of the other assessments that we're doing as well too and what we're looking at so it's one assessment at one point in time um but it's certainly a data point it's one data point Thank you any other questions for Al okay thank you Mr Dee please take it away I love the podium love thank you madam chair uh good evening everyone uh so first of all I apologize I was late getting my BR report uh into the drive uh today so I apologize for that secondly as I mentioned earlier I'm the new kid on the Block I don't sing I Don't Dance little let please to to the group from the 80s twice Ser so uh but but that being said u i did review the school committee policy uh policy DGA which states the school committee shall designate by vote one member who will sign the payroll and accounts payable warrants presented by the school committee School business administrator copies of warrants approved in this manner must be posted and provided at the next school committee meeting that being said um I have in the back uh three warrants that we've done uh during the month of September but again uh not uh clear in terms of the policy the process here I apologize uh so what I've done is that I've given you three votes tonight so I'm going to read each motion um and I would ask for a vote to approve uh that warrant so the first um is the first vouer is voucher 10001 it is dated uh dece September 11 2024 with a value of $164,600 61 this warrant includes a number of payments across the general fund circuit breaker school lunch revolving in several federal grants and again the warrants in the back of the room I have a motion um in my pack in my B report to approve the value of this warrant you want to vote now please all right so could I please have a motion to approve warrant 101 as presented by Administration with a value of $164,600 61 so moved lri mik all right discussion on that we're paying out bills we need to pay out bills thank you it's not I mean you want to look at it yeah it's very difficult to be voting for something that I'm not myself I and I know you are the the you know designity to sign off like so if I may Madam cheer you know I started on September 4th um I I walked into a bees nest and and one of the issues that I walked into that I'm still trying to resolve is that there were a number of unpaid invoices those paid invoices are now in that pile over there uh Ed that term pile but it is a lot of paper um and for the record for the public for the committee uh the the the checks um um for those warrants have been released um because there were vendors who are beginning to shut us off okay I can give you a Litany of of what hasn't happened um as you well know uh the district was behind in making their 403 payment 403b payments uh to to serve our our 43b uh TPA consequently because we were not making those payments the subsequent transfer to respective investment companies wasn't happening we will be penalized for that um for that uh lack of of work um don't know what the numberb is going to be but we're going to find out we were not making payments to mtrs we were not making payments to W the regional retirement we were not making payments to our ground screw company and on and on and on and there were many more we were not making payments to our special ed providers our our tuition payments so my job in an all sincerity was to get those bills paid as quickly as I could with the appropriate backup now I'm not done we are not done there are still issues with FY 24 and one big issue and I'm sure they're looking now is that there are still some um reimbursements for for teachers from courses last last spring there was a problem there was a problem that I had fixed relative to the encumberance it wasn't properly encumbered said how could it not be properly encumbered it wasn't properly encumbered and you can't use your previous year account as a slush fund to pay bills you can't so yeah sorry so sorry interrupt so just on this and he's gonna go on it wasn't criticism yes no I apologized so it wasn't CRI on this time through chair you guys L late fees taxes all that we're trying to we're calling all these people saying listen so we're we are pushing this to and I apologize but I I think you trust will not be presented this way but we got to pay our bills and if I may going back to my opening comments this evening in a perfect world and you will be there you you will be there soon or later is that for both the AP and the Peril warrants what should happen what will happen what will happen is that both the payroll director Emil to the committee making them aware they'll please see attach payroll voucher 1234 with a value of $500,000 uh please approve and then the committee will have the opportunity there'll be reports attached to that email that you can look at and you have that positively have that right to revie both the payroll and and the 8 me warrants as well and uh and then that will go to the school B official to the committee and to the superintendent the treasurer will also be part of that for payroll and and she will sign off funds have been transferred to to find payroll um and you're good to go that's best practice that's best practice and I and I've said that uh to the committee uh prior uh to this meeting uh this evening and you're going to get there you're just not there yet and and in all sincerity I just got to pay bills disruption disruption of of services across the board and the liks don't go out either okay so what we used to do is we never had a point person I don't know was when I first came out of committee remember we used to have to look at the warrants during the meetings yeah you guys remember anybody would rush to sign them you would rush to sign them you'd have to sign them at the end of the meeting and then be proove them at the following consent agenda we're definitely not going back to that because it was super inefficient but given the fact I wouldn't recommend going through all the invoices there's a report at the front of each thing so you can see the vendors that are being paid and that's what we used to get Nicole would put in finish his report you can look through these I mean they're not it's not that long you know that's really the the the bulk of it is right here and it totals up to the 164,000 in the motion so we can table this motion and let Dan finish his entire report and then we'll take make those three motions after she looks at them did you be okay with that yes all are you okay with that Jess you want yeah I mean I think that's the best we can do if we're GNA get it voted at this meeting because we don't meet again until uh November right here I'll get you the other ones and if anyone else wants so you can just pass them all you got okay all right and then we'll do the Motions I I know what you're saying okay want we continue with the yeah continue with the skip the Motions we'll do that do the other stuff so the uh the second voucher is voucher 10002 dated September 25th 2024 with a value of $266,700 and several uh federal grants then the third is uh voucher number 10003 dated September 22nd 2024 with a value of 1, 38,7 19618 and this is a big one this here is primarily to pay our health insurance that was in Aras minimum Le for for three months and the invoices in there reflect that um again for the second and the third there are separate motions uh to to approve those warrants and again um and for for the record for the committee for the public um I uh I grel I'm getting pretty good at that um with a number of vendors um and uh Meer um has uh agreed to extend uh the 60-day window um in which we can get applications in um given the the issues that are occurring here in the district and I appreciate that um so that um anyone uh who was on board during the summer or anyone since then and there have been hiccups uh with getting their applications in they have been incredibly incredibly um helpful to me to the district to those individuals um to to to get it done and just doent share like you don't realize the personal stories that go along with not paying these bills like people not having health insurance people not able to get their medications like all of this was impacting us not paying our bills and sending the money over there so it really the personal story is what's been taken so sorry to everybody that this happened this is just an awful situation all right um good okay this is later yeah we'll vote yeah you finish your update and then if you guys want to pass them along while yeah whatever you're done with so I have some interviews tomorrow afternoon and also on Thursday relative to an AP uh position uh this is again one of the vacancies we've had it for about a month now and I'm hopeful that we'll find someone and we can bring um camer on board soon so sorry can you just tell people ad is Count payable counts receivable for the committee I think I know the administrator see around the table know this uh during the business day typical hours 8 to4 um you know I'm I'm on paper hanger um I think that they know that and and I'll publicly apologize again uh to to the folks sitting around the table because I know for fact that I'm not getting things done um um for them but I'm a one arm paper hanger however we we you know as the superintendent noted uh uh there are days when the business office is busier at night from say 5: to 9: um than it is during the day because I have other people coming in and as I have stated before uh this job is going to take a village to can't mention their names because they're working elsewhere um but uh I sincerely appreciate I can't mention one person because we have signed her to a contract Patty spunberg um you know our new payroll uh coordinator who will be here on October 28th um we got her a week sooner than expected and I sincerely appreciate that and I'm sure the folks sitting on the table appreciate that and the folks and staff in anyway um we have interviews this week um it'll be myself and then I'll make some recommendations to Aaron osbor and perhaps he I can do round two just be done with that to get sewn in hopefully sooner than than later great what I'd like to do Madam chair I just go through my report and and that I'd be happy to to entertain um questions uh from from the committee all right excessive deficiency uh given the fact from from the comme all right excessive deficiency um given the fact Target to file our our D and as you call it um on November 30 or December 1st there abouts ironically uh we got a an email today um SC officials in Regional districts just remind us uh that the deadline is is slowly uh creeping up so so that is the gay man however it is my responsibility as your school business official to apprise you of issues as as I come across them and and 23 subito for for E that the figure and it's on the balance sheet checklist what is the balancing checks well I so when budget sub meets in a week or thereabouts I will do a 50 foot uh review bring it down 50 feet of last year's I'm not going to get into all the numbers but I sincerely believe and I've done this in my previous District that I would give you a high Lev review however on the first page it's called the balance sheet checklist the figure reported for FY 24 for the f24 general fund budget is incorrect the number reported there is approximately 25 million so that is off a variance of minimally of two million plus um I have um to use my term this is my term I have self-reported to do I have reached out to to our representative and I've also U made desie aware of the issue U as well um haven't heard from from DOI yet I did hear from desie um and uh uh you know their responses keep us in the loop in terms of what you're doing relative to that so I'm so sorry just through so Jessie has a phone conference with us in on the chair on Thursday Thursday at 11 o' and then at the next school committee meeting um they we're looking at having them come as well to and speaking to us as a school so I want you to make sure that we're going through the proper channels of this we'll be with Megan on Thursday and then School cre and maybe even sooner than then the next school meeting with the Department of Education maybe on a zoom call for all of us as well too depending what happens on Thursday's meeting okay sorry you must have seen my script oh was that sorry I apologize that's okay okay it's all good so um relative to fy2 uh last week at the ad staff meeting um again I gave a quick budget update uh but one thing I said to them and I I mention this to to this group as well is that this is an opportunity this is an opportunity to to initiate to develop and then to implement best practices you may have okay practices now or good practices but after all this work is done that I will not be here um because I'm the inum guy um uh but you there will be best practices in place it's not going to happen overnight it's not going to happen overnight but one of the best practices that I did share um with uh the ad staff team is what I call Chas and dogs POS and that is a periodic review typically on a quarterly basis to look at all those open purchase aties and to see where you stand for those goods those services that were AED perhaps during the summer uh for the start of the school year to make adjustments accordingly you should have and you will I'm going to create a a schedule before I leave um a financial calendar in terms of goals uh to be met uh during the the school year and when you shut down purchasing and and shutting down purchasing is not on June 29th of 2025 um it it should be done probably at or about May 1 I know I'm getting ahead of myself a little bit um but uh uh I shared that uh with with the group publicly that being said I as your Schoop buiness official I have a responsibility to to make you aware of issues relative to to the budget uh relative to assessments and and what happened um as I said a moment ago um I I have self-reported the issue with the FY 23 submitt um to do and that may not impact that that may not impact um your free cash certification last year because they're just looking for the FY 24 budget so that that that will be a good thing um in terms of that um certainly uh the folks in this room and out elsewhere are aware uh that that there are um issues with the um fy2 budget um I've done a deep dive I'm looking at various minutes and um I'm I'm here to to tell you this evening that if you just look at the June 24 2024 letter uh that was sent to the Town Administrator in the town of Burling um in that letter uh which was signed by the the previous superintendent and the previous Treasurer uh they quote a general fund budget of approximately 23 m423 32063 cents however however as you know um our our general fund budget um as in our accounting software I Visions is approximately 24, 18822 so we have a variance round numbers are approximately 1.4 million approximately round number is approximately 1.4 million um in the general fund given what was voted by the committee in June 24th and uh what's in our accounting software I do remember way back when um when I was working with one with an auditor in a previous District they say whatever is in your accounting software that's your budget that's your budget so if I may I'll I'll finish up um so that being said we have the deficit on paper there is work to be done um on Friday I had a 45 minute call with the Department of Education uh with Michelle Griffin who was the liaison uh for Regional School Districts um she was aware of of these issues and I made her aware of some other issues uh we agreed uh to have a follow-up conversation uh yesterday um with Administration the superintendent and myself um along with uh several other Representatives um from from the Desi uh we spoke for about an hour uh we spoke about the budget and where the budget stands uh we spoke about the assessments and where the assessments stand and the calculations for the assessments we put it all on the table all on the table um desie probably to No One surprise expressed grave concern um about the fy20 fund fy2 general fund budget they express grave concern um about the uh the assessments and the calculations um so it was left uh that that they would contact me today and they did um I work with Michelle Griffin and we have a subsequent meeting uh for this Thursday um with uh our school committee chair with representatives from the desie and from that uh we will then report back to the full committee um and certainly will report back to budget subcommittee now having said this I'm not here to say okay you got a problem here you're out of luck um that's not my job it's not my job my job is to make you aware that you have a problem and then to present to you some recommendations to solve the problem even though I'm out the door um that beach is looking really really good the fund balance in the certified FY 23 um D and D for school choice was properly 2.3 million the fund balance unofficial fund balance in school choice um for FY 24 was approximately 2.8 2.9 Million want to call 3 million that's fine because there are probably some revenues that still haven't been posted from last year that we need to check on okay but you've got it that's one area secondly there there is a fund balance um as reported um in the FY 23 IND midle um for a um a sped uh uh you have a carry forward um in circuit breaker as report fy2 uh circuit breaker which reflects FY 24 expenditures approximately just a little bit under $800,000 the point have that you can reallocate cost from the general fund into them to cover the budget for FY 25 it does pose a problem for FY 26 it it does I'm not going to deny that but I I I also think too that there there are the the reason for the variance in in the 25 general fund budget is that that number but I have no documentation to to substantiate this is that number probably includes the the the offsets and I and I have seen those numbers in in in um meetings and um in PowerPoints that some of those offsets may be rolled into that $24.7 million to to account for the variance that shouldn't be the case you know that shouldn't be the case they're they're separate meeting again Thursday at at 11 o'clock um the other thing that desie uh spoke about yesterday uh Jay San the associate commissioner for school Finance is that uh the first thing that that I'll need to do um is to to begin the the reconciliation process uh uh for fy2 uh to basically start from from ground zero and to to tie into the number uh that was reported on June 24th to the town of Berlin in in the assessment letter I'm going to assume I'm going to assume that that is that is the committee's final number and we're not going to get into this this evening I I need to share with you what what like um in our in our budget subcommittee meeting so you have you have options you have opportunities to to to fix this and uh and I I believe that um um that can happen I I do you you may be um again not knowing the practice here in the district but if you look to carry forward one years's one year's allocation of circuit breaker the following year just a second so this year's number number was 800,000 just use that number it it has been my experience my practice that that 800,000 we we don't touch we don't touch that fiscal year we use it the following year one year to use those funds to use those funds if we if we have to tap into this year's circuit breaker so be we we do I also want to make a recommendation that I I think you you've again an opportunity this is an opportunity to do a reset you've got a you've got a great opportunity here to really drill down on your school-based medicate claims um you given what I've seen you you you bring in some some small cap and and there may be others saying we're not going to go down that road and and I get that but but there is there is money there there is money there that I believe can help you in FY 26 uh for sure but it's going to take some um perspiration sweat to say the least you got to have to roll up your sleeves but but there there is an opportunity there given the receipts that I've seen um today and I've seen greater and I've seen much larger numbers U um in my district that I was working last year inm gig we brought it well over $300,000 um in another Regional District years ago we brought it well we brought it well giving you this bad news I'm also giving you suggestions as to how to write the ship and make it hold uh moving forward I think that's enough about fy2 last um FY 26 with all that's going on uh we can't lose sight and I mentioned this at the adstaff meeting last week that um FY 26 is is knocking on the door um we're we're kind of pushing the middle of October um I will have for the budget subcommittee meeting um proposed schedule um for FY 26 and that will include uh again this financial calendar um for the fiscal year um and I going to tease you a little bit and and suggest uh maybe some things that you haven't done in the past to to bring forward the budget the budget's a story it's a story it's a book that we write every year and and and in this story to to the folks in this room here as to how we're going to enable them to take these funds to be students and adults of the 21st century period so that's on the horizon um and uh maybe I'll be on a beach by that point in time um Madam chair that concludes my report um I've said a lot and I'd be happy happy to answer any questions from the committee thank you for the time you put into this just we can set I think it's a good idea and still know running we got to really start digging deep into this so instead of using again the reason why you have the budget sub or any sub communties is getting that work done there and lifting it up to school committee so yeah and we did a actually last year Julie and I met a lot right more than once a month and then we would both try to take turns or go to all the um or a good chunk of the finance committee me deadline of October 31st which is creeping meeting with Kristen Kristen from Berlin on Thursday morning um Mike did all right I just thanks for the time that you put into this and the suggestions and how to go forward did you have something can you just repeat the bills that went unpaid that goes back to Mid mid June of 2024 the there were issues with our as I said our 403b um payments to our respective providers um I believe I have reported this uh to the school committee um consequently uh we will be fined that that's the term I don't know the is going to be yet but basically the fine is such that um penser will calculate uh the the loss to earnings for for those staff impacted by that and that U we will pay penser that penor will then make the dispersements to the respective uh vendors for for those lost earnings um there were unpaid invoices for um mtrs um for um with the regional retirment there were a number of unpaid invoices for our grounds provider and they actually they shut us down for a week or their reps I think J June 1st is right about where we start to see that we we bills weren't being paid from I think Mike question right around about June 1st thereabouts and uh you know frankly it it's just a hodg podge of of invoices and and we we have kind of a system now at least in central office that um if someone gets an email from a vendor for whatever it be that unpaid tuition bill or whatever it might be um I said just give me that give me that email and I'll I'll contact that person um I I think we we've made significant Headway in in those unpaid invoices um but there there's more uh you know there there's more um you know and I'm sure that there are folks listening and watching um there there is an issue uh with the incumbrance as I mentioned earlier my my discussion for reimbursing teachers uh for for courses for last year I'm not going to get into what it was I'm not going down that rabbit hole guess it a little bit complicated um but there is a resolution and um we're going to fix it um but but it takes time especially if you're went on paper hango question anybody else all right thank you madam CH than seriously thank you so much for all of the time and effort here put into this all right so we do need to vote on these warrants so do you got are you guys you want to do that now that done okay all right can I please have a motion to approve warrant 101 as presented by Administration with a value of $164,600 2 was presented by Administration with a value of $66,667 7 so move um any discussion on that okay all in favor I all right I'm an i as well that motion passes last one um can I please have a motion to approve warrant 103 is presented by Administration with a value of 1, 387969 sove Lori second sorry I'm sorry I was wondering where she this I don't I don't so all right any discussion all in favor I I can't hear Mr tomman what it's because I wasn't in favor all right all right opposed yes yes all right yeah he probably was opposed on the others as well Nicole you you capturing all this so on the both the first two motions he was opposed this third one he's opposed all right I'm an I that motion passes motion are still passing all right so um I'm going to backtrack a little bit before we the principales do the report so we voted on the warrant but we did not vote on the consent agenda so um I'm GNA have make the motion and then if anyone has any questions on those minutes so what we're specifically voting on is um it's the minutes from June 17th which was the meeting right before town meeting June 18th which is the meeting we had the day after town meeting and then the September 10th meeting which was the last last month's meeting all right so could I please have a motion to approve the open meeting minutes for June 17th 2024 June 18th 2024 and September 10th Lai Jess any discussion on those or questions okay all in favor I all right I'm and I as well that passes five zero all right now we are up to the principal reports Mrs Sykes please take it away well thank you for the opportunity to share some of the great things that are happening at bees you received my report so I'm just going to highlight a couple of things um one of the things that we do at the start of every year is to kind of screen the students to see where they are and we make a plan for how we're going to teach them we Benchmark again in the winter we Benchmark again at the end of the year and this one of the tools we use is the as web and out of this and I'm going to point to Mr floro here who is our amazing math coach that we share um we were talking about parents understanding the data so we send it home and we provided an opportunity for them to come in and I'm going to be very honest it was very short notice at first um we gave two days because we had to plan this I didn't expect a lot and we had what did we have 17 19 um we planed a second one just because of that short notice there was a lot of great informative questions and a lot of great conversations so this is something that I'd like to see continue and again Joey right here LED that it was a lot of fun they really didn't come with I didn't plan it I wanted to see how it went and they just came with really questions that kept us there just over an hour and they were all engaged and I think walked away knowing and feeling a little bit better about what's going on and we'll get back to how many people we have this coming on Friday as well we're I'm expecting more and we um offered them treats from our lovely cafeteria that you had mention to out to you so we that as well um you have the rest of my report so any questions about that or anything on the report anyone have questions for Mrs pkes I'm curious if like the I don't know if there any notes were taken from that meeting but if maybe like commonly asked questions or FAQs for the Amwood could come out of that meeting definitely I think that was a great thing Joey led the meeting I kind of took the notes and just jumped in every once in a while but we did take notes that we Shar to KI off next year it's great all right anyone else all right um perfect thank you Mr Campbell good evening everybody You' got my report as well de beginning of the year assessment I won't repeat that um I'll talk real quick about all school meetings which we do obviously once a month um we're focusing a little bit this year on attendance not because it's a huge problem in my school but it's a source of U Pride for kids that you know they show up every day um so we made in addition to our hardest working student of the month for every grade we did certificates for everybody who had perfect attendance so far this year 128 kids out 225 whatever it is we have now so it was really nice to see and it was funny because I missed a kid certificate and she complained that was aot that means more of them sometimes in the grades that appr you know everybody needs something to celebrate and we didn't spend a ton of time on it I didn't like you know had them all come up individually to get a certificate because theyve got learning to do um but we did take the picture and uh been good start to the year great all right does anyone have any questions for Mr Campbell just a comment joh thought I'd read this in your report to maybe I'm dating but you placing that emphasis on attendance I feel the need just to bring up the grumblings I'm hearing get a pattern going for kids full days day off tomorrow full day off Monday half day of the next week so there's you're placing an emphasis on the classroom time for kids not to miss school but then as a district we' got all these days off it's it's for a good cause I understand you're professional development but the importance of the focus on the attendance next to the lack of class time with all these days off is just something that sticks out to a lot of people not to you pres and through the chair that Sally and I and John have already been talking about the calendar what I'm going to propose to school C and the chair is that we're going to do two years worth of calendars the onus on us right now is to get next year's done right away so parents know but if we do two years of front we only have to work and we'll be really looking at all of that data right how do parents feel about what's our attendance look like on those half days right what's it look like um and we'll go through all that and we'll give you a report probably after the holidays of where we're goingon to go in what direction I'm hoping by March I'm hoping by March the very latest that you'll have two years where the C's in front of school gr is that usually a timeline on that March we usually vote on the one year ahead of time okay so by by hopefully by much we have two years March April and also serving the teachers how are they feeling about that okay great all right uh Janelle um sure so um my report was written in collaboration with the other members of the administration team um and summarizes the preschool program review that we conducted that's in accordance with the district Improvement plan it was a while to receive that report um really the the um having to do with enrollment Staffing um potentially relocating the Tanto preschool program over tooon Elementary School um supporting students with autism through our programs and comparing our tuitions to other districts um and as you can see my report there's a number of key findings that are that are discussed as well as recommendations and really you know the big overarching focus of that report was really about um our program our preschool programs Effectiveness areas for improvement and expansion of our programs through full day preschool programs um which we do not currently have so a couple of big recommendations that came out of it that the administrative team is in um and these are relevant into budget season is um there was a recommendation to restructure the preschool leadership um to really increase that and perhaps even add a halftime preschool coordinator or director um to the district so that's certainly something that we're in favor of that we feel like we need in order to really provide some unity in the preschool programs and to act on a lot of the recommendations that were there um in general if there are you know there are a number of fiscal considerations that need to be taken into account as well as the child development program at Tanto but if those items could be school over to Boon um they need a have time attention and we'd like to even um ask the budget subcommittee to look at some of those items with us yeah and then there were some recommendations that we already have very well in progress those are um conducting at graphic study those are being we just got some information from nezda that we're looking at we'll bring that back to share with you um as well as improving professional development very specific to preschool students and staff and that is actually being done through the calendar of our additional preschool time so um th you know those are that's a big overview of a very lengthy report there's a very full copy of that report that's available in my office it does have some confidential staff information but if any of the school committee members wanted to take the time to look at that please let me know IFD be happy to meet with you I just ask one question so I I know um at the high school the students that do it for four the child development course for four years can actually get a certificate um through the Department of Education so we that's something an area that we really need to study because we don't want to lose that program it is important um and it is important support so that is something we would have to take into consideration as well okay thank you yeah of course just stent shair that that's something obviously the next Administration about creating those Pathways in a high school le and I have talked about that right so that students have an idea where they're going to be when they graduate from their their senior in high school that yes educ want to go into putting my time into yeah something I want to go into so looking at those Pathways is certainly something that we plan for the high school as well too I just want to be clear not looking at moving the preschool for next okay A little bit of a longer it's a little bit it would require more planning it would be a multi-year all of those fiscal absolutely um considerations really need to be studied and I'll be going with to the budget sub been talking about that preschool coordinator right that's a huge position that most districts have I I have to tell you preschool is a very competitive money-making business as well too right there's a lot of money to be made from the from with preschool um but it's also very competitive buiness business out there there a lot of private there are a lot of um so we need to really focus on that because when you look at declining enrollment right at any of schools getting them in that front door the first time and keeping them in as that preschool is huge um so we'll be talking more in details about getting that are looking at having that that preschool coordinated okay all right anyone else thanks the like I assume fulltime is kind of the direction you want to move move in but like has it been looked at to do full-time at the elementaries and then maintain a part-time program at Danto just to open up the slots I'm just saying because fulltime you're gonna have your slots right hypothetically yeah so and that's where um we would want to look at so your s that suggestion would be having three preschool classrooms right we have the one in Berlin the one in Tonto so that goes to having an additional teacher it's a fiscal consideration so I agree with you I think that that should be an option that we should slots for the families that that works for as well as the full day slots um but it just for students with and without disabilities um and ensuring that there's enough of those slots both we we get reports from NASDAQ and and that will probably my next school committee meeting that show like birth rates and show like projections right we pay for that just so you know lot of our budget so we get these reports that are really good reports so they get out there and get that information so before we're looking at adding additional preschools is the birth rate telling us that yeah we're going to need to do this because we're seeing this many births are happening right now and that we need to be prepared for that so looking at it so it's not just giv to the school so I'll add that Nicole if you make not this on that rep I think you have it Sally oh yeah sh you had s oh yeah share information so let's make sure we get that yeah and that will that will lead us in terms of do we really all right I think defin everybody great thank you all right Sally sure so um at the beginning of my report I just had an update for the allocations that we received for the es grants I had discussed them in my last report but didn't have the actual numbers there so I've added those um and just a couple updates about a couple of grants that we've already received and that we're working on um in addition to the ones listed in the report just today actually I heard from Cas and they're offering us another Grant as well um we had a full professional development day on the 24th and I list in the reports from the various um sessions that we offered and um we're having another one tomorrow and then uh the W committee did meet and we um are finalizing that presentation that we'd like to bring around to the faculties and the PTO and the boosters we should be able to finish it up at our next meeting um which is coming up on October 23rd and finally we are developing a steam committee and so far what steam is right sure so steam is a committee that um helps has to do with um science technology math and arts and the ability to um promote multidisiplinary collaboration between those um courses and also to put together activities and events that um are all around those areas does anyone have any questions for Sally it was really nice to see in some of the news what was happening during the PD day um and some of the topics discussed at parent absorb those hours off to see what's happening good point yeah and and we'll be talking about that with contract negotiations with our principles like what does that look like for professional learning days moving forward okay great thank you all right so um I think that's it for reports right and then all right everybody thank you so we have two more we got the search committee we got the contra so we've got two things I'll do the Boon education collaborative this is very uh easy simple I think um all right so I'm gonna have to abstain from voting because I'm the treasurer of the Boon education collaborative and I'm bringing this request to school committee so the Boon education collaborative is looking to sell beer at pumpkinfest uh we went to the board the select board in Boon and they approved a liquor license um as long as the school committee approves it as well so what we've done in the past at bingo we sold beer and what we have is a there's a woman on the Boon education collaborative her mother owns breens bar in Worcester so thank you breens they donated the alcohol they donated it for Bingo and they're planning to donate again for pumpkinfest if we get the liquor license so it's straight profit for the group for the the collaborative um for those that don't know the Boon education collaborative is the merger between Boon Elementary PTO and the Boon Education Foundation um and so the group raises money and all the money goes back into enrichment mostly goes to teacher grants I think more than half of um half of what we raised goes into the teacher grants it goes into programming at the school it supplements the budget we've bought iPads before we bought the Smartboard in the library with the amazing smart cart that goes with it um it's an amazing group to supplement the budget especially in these tough times where um you know we we've had to make a lot of cuts so I'm going to make the motion and then we can discuss um but the request is just for the school committee to approve selling beer um at pumpkinfest all right so could I please have a motion to approve the boilson education collaborative to sell beer at pumpkinfest someone and Jess right any discussion or questions so at bingo you had your own insurance as well yeah only a certain number of tickets to be sold per person yeah so we um have a separate policy for each event this policy includes alcohol the process with the select board to get a liqu license you need an insurance policy you need to sign off by the police we'll have a police detail there and you need to sign up by the fire chief so John and unata signed off on it Joe Flanigan signed off on it we submitted the insurance policy the select board voted on it um it's a three beer maximum um so there's bracelets you get an orange bracelet you get three beers if you buy one you can also buy one beer um for a yellow bracelet um we have a tip certified bartender that we pay who will be doing the serving and the alcohol is not allowed in the building um so what we have is we have a parent watching the door so if somebody's holding their beer they want to go in the bathroom they can't they got to get rid of it or they got to put it down can't go in the building obviously if it rains this idea will be nixed and the beauty of it is we don't lose any money because breens is donating alcohol they're a bar they can take all the alcohol back and use it in their bar especially the pumpkin beer that they're planning to provide in siters it's no hard alcohol it's just beer and wine the date on that is oh it will be it will be October H Sunday October 27th I think it was in report from 1: to 4m and there's also non-alcoholic things as well too oh make your own s'mores yeah we're having a coffe The Coffee Cabin um halt tastic popcorn which is amazing coton candy just so people don't think we're just doing beer we just need the approval for that but yeah same thing with bingo I think we have pizza chips Waters like all that stuff so but you make the money on the Alcohol especially when it's donated a great state cheese at GRE just for the record best in the city sorry haran is watching she be having here all right any any other questions on that okay all in favor I I all right I'm an i as well that motion passes all right last vote and then we'll close this up and go into executive session so Al has um an addendum he'd like us to look at for the school contract and the gist of it is I don't think this was in Carol's contract but the way it's written now is he has to keep track of all of his travel rather than just having a stien that would cover the travel for the year so I think after they him and Nicole started keeping track of all the times he's going back and forth between the schools because he's on the road every day at all of the schools um it just kind of doesn't make sense so what he's asking is that rather than having to keep the mileage there's a stien so would you like to explain that so thank you to the chair so nocole does a nice job I was trying to keep track of me where I'm going and what what I'm what I'm doing as the team looks at me like so instead of like literally charting out where I'm going in the mileage from one school to the other um I I I just figured we' give an abbreviated version right I just did an average of it as well too so this way we don't have to submit previous superintendents they just had to do their mileage and add it all up and present it that way it's just so hard and I'm really just trying to take that off um off off Nicole and if anything I'm probably on the lighter end of this but I just feel like this would just be an easier Road for me to go down no pun intended there um than than measuring each step I go from place to place and I've also encumbered um all the the travel I'm going to do with for the Mas masd meetings as well too so I just sort try to L that all together at the same time so that's on that other do a lot in the district Prof is trying to make things cleaner and neater instead of harder we're trying to work smarter not harder so the addendum would be to add a $4,000 travel stien rather than um Nicole literally rather than tracking it Y and and I'm comfortable either way I'm just trying to clean up things so please it seems like a waste of time okay so I'm just going to make the motion and then we can discuss it so could um I please have a motion to approve the addendum to the interim superintendent of school's contract which would add a $4,000 travel stipid rather than having to keep track of travel do you want to say the exact amount 4108 oh yeah sorry it would be $410 18ve listen we have we're dealing with the budget I'm going to be very specific all right that's valid because he has all the backup for it all right so lii I need a second second okay just all right does anyone have questions about this for Al do we know what the line item ended up being for Carol last year I don't I have no idea I I feel like she had a travel stien I know like a lot of people in the district had have a travel stien in their contract so I'm surprised we used a completely different contract template for Al and it was you don't have travel stud I know that it is an Al contract for travel I've seen Carol like I know she did the one for um the the conferences I've seen her she I think she did she do her own reports maybe I don't know what so I don't know I honestly I don't I'm sorry I do not know I do not know I I did see some of her expense reports come through for travel but I I I didn't like do a deep dive on that and I'm really okay either way it's just trying to make it cleaner so this is the fin sounds all right any other discussion on that guys ready to vote all right all in favor I I'm just gonna obain because I have nothing to compare it to no disrespect I just don't you know sure all right any opposed thank you and through at the next schol Prem I'll make sure that Dan has will we look back what the expenditure was for previous superintendent so you just have some reference points I should have probably done that as well too and this was just as you can see in the think was literally just average yeah all right all right so wait so wait I'm confused now all right so we we're voting uh all in favor was Jessica lri Julia stain opposed did you raise your hand for that no I was gonna say something oh sorry go ahead no what did you want to say it was just oh all right all in favor start sorry at this point all right so I'm gonna make a motion we're gonna um exit Okay exit Open Session we're going to go into executive session we will not be returning to open session so this is it for Kyle um so could I please have can I please have a motion to enter into executive session purum Massachusetts general laws chapter 38 section 21A purpose 4 to discuss the deployment of security and not return into Open session we GNA do a roll call vote so moved second okay I Jess jul hi Mike I'm I as well thank you so much we will see everyone back here in November wait one more thing Kyle don't shut it off this is um the last meeting Julie seriously thank you four hit me in the middle of it when I saw November 12th and we might have another Zoom we'll see but this is like the last meeting so Julie Lee thank you four and a half years of service [Applause] to thank you okay now you can cut it thank you everyone good night
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e e osar acknowled osuka all set to seea i' like to call the meeting the order please can we stand for the pledge of Allegiance and remain signed in for a moment of silence please i' like to recognize our men and women who are overseas and in the service in this country I'm afraid things are going to start happening fast fear for their safety remember them i' appreciate thank you sh can we do the roll call please Mr tbox y Miss Ferris here miss dler here M Mr Jones here Mr Mia Mr Mia oh I'm sorry okay Mr Mercedes here Mr hden we get a motion to accept the minutes of September 24th please I'll make a motion to accept the M all those in favor I take a minute to uh change the agenda you'll notice we have't you notice the agenda has a a red uh line on it the students report was not ready as of until yesterday and they would like to uh present it at today's meeting uh can I have a motion to add that into the agenda make a motion to add it to the agenda second any discussion all those in favor say I opposed I'd like to introduce um the committee uh the uh students still introduce themselves also Mia kopelan who's a senior in the business office ysen MOA who's a junior uh from carpentry and Lea uh Guerrero she's a freshman she was here last week 10th grade you're in freshman right you're in 10th Grade 10th grade great sophomore you're a sophomore okay hon who's going to start Hispanic heritage month is taking place from the 9th of the 2024 to the 10th of the 15th of October this year's theme is pioneers of change shaping the future together and it's all about celebrating the incredible contribution of Hispanic and Latin communities throughout history and today over the next few weeks at GTS will'll be sharing stories hosting events and learning about the incredible ways these tail Blazers have shaped our past present and future the school count the school counselling department will be offering the PSAT Tuesday October 29th period 1- 4 the test is open to 11th and 10th grade students on a first come first serve bases all students who register are required to participate this will be a full digital test and students will use their Chromebooks Family Game Night family game night and times 2 training is taking place this Thursday October 10 from 5:30 to 8:00 pm in the cafeteria students families and glts staff will celebrate together with food games and prizes Reggie leaders will join our staff that attend to welcome parents to serve dinner poo Centro from Lawrence has graciously donated the food for our event Domino's parches and the ever popular Bingo will be accessible for families to enjoy prizes will be a available for students and parents including a free raffle to win a brand new Chromebook from Target this prizes to be promises to be another funfilled night for our school commit Community the glts College and Career Fair the school counseling department is hosting its annual College and Career Fair on October 31st from 8 a.m.
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c c here and we uh we have some uh some students we're going to be making some awards to other than that we'll be following our regular agenda if you don't have our agenda it's on the table and some of the things that we're going to be going over tonight you can find those uh on the table if you'd like um I'm going to start tonight uh before the Pledge of Allegiance with just with a moment of silence uh this past week and a half uh we lost a legendary coach in Nancy Grace um and you'll hear a little bit more about that as the meeting goes on but uh sadly Nancy passed away and uh we also lost the board of members son-in-law who is also a a substitute teacher uh in our district Andrew uh Jason and uh Andrew passed away uh last week also so if youd rise with me for a moment of silence and then we'll turn to our question Le thank you if you join me in the Pledge of Allegiance please I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic stands one nation under God indivisible with libery and justice for all thank you okay tonight uh we'll start with our public comment so we'll start with anybody in the audience that would like to make a public comment uh the public comment segment of the meeting agenda is set aside so the Boe may receive public comments procedurally public remarks will be limited to 3 minutes and citizens will be asked to identify themselves because the board of education is limited by the Freedom of Information Act to discussing only matters on the agenda the board of education is not permitted to engage in a discussion with the comments presented so having said that we'll time the the comments to make sure we keep the meeting moving is anybody in the audience would like to address the board of education for public comments Andrew thank you Andrew L for fining Drive last month I sent every board member an email and I just would like to get that email what i' said in the email on the public record so I'm just going to read the email as I wrote it to all the board members last month during the summer I found out from Anna Robins that board of ed budget just the Year 2005 was about $16.8 million I took that 16.8 million and put it into a website called US inflation to.com and found out that keep PA inflation since this year 2005 today we'll need a budget of just over $27 million the current bordered budget it's about $32.9 million so when compar to fisal year 2005 our current budget is about $5.8 million 12 inflation my request for the board that is to find out why are we running 5.8 million of above inflation and to do so before you go to the board of Finance with your next budget there could be legitimate reasons why we're 5.8 million above inflation for example I'm sure they're more on fronted educational mandates now than there were 20 years ago maybe the student population size has increased I'm not sure with the board ofed budget several million of public inflation I feel the public has owed an explanation as to why this is happening and to do so in a public meeting I was offered graciously andna offer time to to down and you know run through everything with May I'm not sure quite detail byly decline because the explanation needs to be had at a public meeting not one one behind thank you thank you an anybody else like to address the Board of Education in the audience okay hearing none we'll go online sure I have one raised hand and I'm going to allow Lisa C to talk Lisa you should be able to talk now thank you so much um I was just at the policy meeting I just wanted to thank you oh 13 din Drive sorry go ahead hogin 13-day nard drive thank you okay thank you um I was just at the policy committee meeting and I I want to thank you for allowing this meeting to be held hybridly I could as well um at the policy committee meeting I attended um I asked for further revisit policy for further edit um and I hope that other members of the public will also come forward and give input on policy topics in the future now that public comment is on that agenda the second comment and final comment I wanted to make was to just Express GR ude to John bishop and the Safety Committee for pursuing the safe roots to schools and for being recognized as a district of Distinction for their Vision zero program October is pedestrian safety awareness month and so although we didn't pull up the bike walk roll event um together for this month I'm looking forward to the event in May um I'm a member of bike won CC also we have a Bike Rodeo um plan with parks and Rex and the C and more information will be coming um in next few months but the sa FR school meeting on September 17th brought forward a lot of valuable um Engineers forwarded me a copy of their presentation and I shared that presentation with the temporary traffic and pedestrian safety advisory committee meeting last week um um and we assigned ourselves some homework work um we decided to look over the recommendations and send feedback to Mr Bishop and hopefully that will further the development of the safe roots to schol I just want to thank the administration for all of their efforts on the M program thank you Lisa appreciate you I have one more rais hand from chrisy Mitchell I'm going to allow christe to St christe you should be able to unmute yourself hi christe hi thank you good evening my name is Christy Mitchell I live at 14 noja Trail for the record my husband and I have lived in Canton for 24 years and we've raised our three daughters in the Canton School District I speaking tonight to urge the board to delay implementing the title 9 rewrite policies and to resend the gender identity policy 5145 53 to prevent further harm until the law is settled on this issue and I've already submitted comments and talked at the policy committee meeting at length about the injunctions across the country and all of the legal reasons why I think you should do that so I'd like to just share our firstand experience with these policies um and you know why it's so important that you take a step back and really understand the harm that's caused by it so back in 2017 my middle daughter Chelsea as just a freshman found herself in the finals of the 100 meter dash at the k to get State open um this is really hard to do out of the thousands of girls that compete in that event only eight make it to a final the only other freshman in that race was a male and had he been running with the other males he would have been ranked 422nd place and would certainly not have qualified for the state eight but because he ran with the girls he finished fourth that Year Chelsea lost her chance to medal she lost points for her for her Canton team and she miss qualifying for new englands a male took honors instead and policies like the one you are discussing tonight allowed it the next year second male started running girls track he switched from the boys team to the girls team between the indoor and outdoor season Chelsea again made the finals of the 100 meter at the State open but this time settled into her blocks with a mail on each side of her they of course took first and second the boy who took first would have placed 181st in the boys rankings but because he ran with the girls he said new meet record and beat the girls by at least five meters that same boy went on to win the 200 meter that day and to sweep the 100 and 200 at the New England Championship all along the way girls were losing their chance to advance to make finals to make Podium there are only eight or nine Lanes on a track and when boys are in two of them girls are being displaced this is sex based discrimination the policy you are discussing tonight allowed it by junior year Chelsea was losing state titles four of them to be exact this went on and on again the race wasn't close he the boys took first and second and he took third um that loss was hard a state Open Championship means a lot and you can go down to the gym and take a look at the banners and see how many athletes have been able to do that in our school's history you'll find a handful of boys but no other girls she is the only one and this mattered to her and it should have mattered to you this is sex based discrimination policy you are discussing tonight allowed this to happen I could go on with 20 more examples um I'm not going to do that because they don't have time but 15 state titles seven New England titles and 17 meet records all taken by males and girls races nobody would step in and say enough this is wrong this doesn't make sense this is hurting girls girls were silenced coaches were silent nobody dared discuss it and after years of asking for help as a last resort Chelsea and two other girls filed a federal lawsuit to for common sense and fairness now four years later that lawsuit is still ongoing and this school board and my family remain on opposite sides of an isue that we should be United on protecting the rights of your female students against sex based discrimination the Title Nine rewrite destroys the can can you summarize please let you go over but thank you certainly these policies fail to consider the impact on female students ex separated sports categories locker rooms and restroom facilities are just common sense categorizing these things by gender identity should never have been implemented in our school district you have the opportunity to do the right thing rather than double down on a flawed approach I hope that you will stand with the young women who have taken a stand on this issue thank you thank you Christie anyone else online here don't have any other raised hands that's it okay we will close out the public comment of tonight's meeting thank you for your comments uh both online and in the audience tonight appreciate you okay uh we'll move on to the administrative reports the Chairman's Corner tonight uh I report to the board um that with the passing of legendary coach n Nancy Grace we've gotten many comments and thoughts about how to honor her and I will let the board know that we are along with the board of Selectmen we are reviewing options uh and it's going to take some time so uh I know that people would like to see certain things done uh in town and we will continue to valuate those options something will be done I'm sure um but we're not really sure what yet um because board of education does not have naming rights of certain things we have naming rights inside the building but not outside the building so we have to coordinate with Board of Select so that's in process uh the second thing I want to remind everybody about is uh we do have another legendary coach and Bill Phelps who retired as our soccer coach last year this year last year you retired after last season after last season thank you and on 1022 at a soccer game here in uh on our own home field we'll be honoring Mr Phelps at halftime with a little reception so uh I hope as many people can make that meeting as possible and I hope the board can also make that meeting uh that that event uh been on Mr phelps's uh behalf uh I also want to remind the board there's a cave conference that's coming up the annual cave conference which is 11:15 to 116 and um we also received um oh it's right here uh we received from the uh Park and wreck for board members and some of you I remember I think Ken myself and Joe I think last year were at Mills pond where they did their Halloween at the park uh where they've asked all different parts of town um Everybody the Board of Education Board of Selectmen all the different boards if they would sponsor a table and hand out uh candy the uh there's an event run that day this is Saturday October 19th the event is um there's a fun run from 11:30 to 12:30 but there's also um Candy giveaway that also happens from 11:30 to 12 12:30 it's 1 hour um so if there's a board member fortunately I'll be away that weekend but if there's a board member that may want to coordinate that one hour uh we put our Banner out there we'll buy the candy and the kids just come by it's pretty cool they come by and all their costumes and if you want to come byy in a costume and I'll open this up to our our reps if if you want to help us out with this that would be a great too it's one hour on Saturday the 19th um the other the other thing is there's a teacher is it a teacher appreciation next we how it's Board of Education and EAC collaboration of a social okay so meet and a meet and greet with the Board of Education and our teachers union and that is next Thursday is it Thursday 17th thank you so it's next Thursday the uh the 17th so um I I plan to be there um and I hope as many board members can be there also to uh to um have some fun with our our Union 35 teachers 3:15 goes 3:15 I think to like 6:15 or something like that so 5:30 okay um other than that that's all I have uh as a Chairman's up there we move on to Dr G Dr grman please super good evening to everyone it's great to see everyone here and person and online a lot of happenings within the the can Public Schools I do want to welcome Mr to pipo and Dr Kidwell here this evening and the rest of the Ken High School staff and students and families that are joining us for such a great night I did receive an email from Mr dep pipo that I did want to put out out here in let the board in the community now that Kon high school was recently recognized as an advanced placement program by being placed on the honor rule for 2324 by the College Board as far as Mr pipo and I can remember this is one of the first times that this has happened and what it does it's honoring and recognizing the schools that have done outstanding work to welcome more students into the AP courses and if you remember that is all part of Mr the pipo in the high school's continuous Improvement plan so [Music] congratulations as I wrote in my update to the board of ed last week and I do want to let the community know and my hope is eventually to bring this individual in the spring to a board meeting is our own Kent High School Kent Middle School music teacher Coral director Mr Brian Jones has been selected as a national finalist for the American prize in composition for his short Coral Works professional Divi division for his peace may it be so that that's a tremendous honor we wish Mr Jones tremendous luck and and we'll bring Mr Jones here in the Spring tomorrow is a big day here at Kent high school and there'll be a lot of traffic in in this uh building tomorrow so we need to be prepared for that our SC counseling department has work worked really hard for our college fair for our Juniors and seniors tomorrow I want to let everyone know that this Friday will be a half day in the Ken public schools that we have districtwide professional learning Monday October 14th there's no school due to the holiday and Tuesday November 5th our staff will get together students will be off for our professional election day um development and that will be at Cher Brook primary school we really haven't had our professional learning day at Cherrybrook so that will be exciting I do want to let the board know that we are in in deep into our budget process that we will be meeting with the administrative team to discuss their individual budgets they're putting their budgets together with the hope of presenting our proposed forecasted budget if you remember we do it I I did it a little bit different than what you're used to I'll give you a forecasted budget of where we are at that moment in time in December and then I'll come back and give you the final superintendent budget in the the January and February timeline but what the goal is to share with you where we are are within the the process of what the administrative team is looking at in December and looking at it in relative to the tri board meeting which is October 21st at 6: PM it's very important that all board members attend the tri board 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to see electric lawn care equipment in action uh you'll be able to hear from lawn care service providers and experts about their experiences with electric equipment and pollinator aware practices get questions answered and view live electric lawn care equipment demonstrations um you can view our website or get in contact with me or Chrissa Ebling at cing a2gov.org um in the last to you know to celebrate an a20 achievement um through our various free tree giveaways and events we are happy to announce that we have officially surpassed our goal of planting 10,000 trees on private property in an arbor um while you know we have reached this goal uh well ahead of schedule uh naturally we you know uh we plan to keep this momentum going they'll be continue to host free tree giveaways over the next few years um and we're also beginning to do uh survival studies to monitor the trees that have been planted make sure they're doing okay in assess um if they are not that is all that I have for today thank you we'll move on to report uh from the environmental commission yes uh thank you uh the last environmental commission uh was focused on two agenda topics the first was a review it was just for information only on the water regulatory framework that the city operates under starting with Federal level State County City looking at all the different agencies that are involved and what they regulate and what they're responsible for that's a really interesting uh presentation um that was put together with including input from City staff so anyone that really wants to better understand that uh I encourage them to take a look uh at that presentation on legistar or review the uh the meeting uh video the second was a first reading of a resolution of support for or Michigan Senate Bill 228 which would repeal the 2016 PA 389 which prevents local uh jurisdictions from regulating plastic bags and other containers uh so the city of Detroit has already passed um such a resolution um I picked that up and we looked at that and um it will be considered in a second reading and hopefully approved and go on the city council um by the way uh we uh have several of our elected officials in Michigan that are behind that um including Senator shink and and Irwin so that's all one other thing about 10,000 trees we've discussed this in the environmental commission and I think the only thing that we can claim for sure is that we've handed out 10,000 trees we don't know whether they were planted and we don't know their survival rates at least as of yet Joe is that correct is that your understanding um I believe so I don't work directly on the program but yeah that's my understanding and they we've just started doing those um survival and follow-up studies so those are taking place currently fantastic thank you thank you for that um updates from Council I don't know why this part always catches me off guard do you have anything Erica I don't at the moment I'm sorry um oh there there were some revisions made to herd last night um which I know that um that folks have been involved in and so maybe we can provide out an update on that um we could send kind of the revisions for everyone to have so that they can review them that' be great thank you so much okay we'll move on to the um the last uh opportunity for public input uh this is an opportunity for people to speak for up to three minutes and if you're watching on CTN please call 888 78899 or 877 853 5247 and enter meeting ID 956 8718 7876 this information is also displayed on the meeting agenda and video feed City staff will select callers that have raised their hand one by one using the last three digits of your phone number to electronically raise your hand inate your desire to speak please press star9 on your phone you'll hear an automated announcement that the host is allowing you to speak um and please state your name and address at the beginning of your comments Aller ending in 134 thank you Mr Lang and Cher harp it's Ken Garber again um yeah thank you for the discussion I have two things to say a question and a comment the question is um Mr Lang reiterated that um the uh checklist elements um and the scoring and the ordinance in general was um pretty much pushed the limits of what the city can legally do based on State Building Codes um and I know you don't have the information right at hand um Mr Lang but I'm going I want to warn you I'll be emailing you this question and hopefully you can give me some kind of reply you know I'm familiar with um the uh statute that governs new construction The Still d rosted Hil single state construction code Act 1972 as amended also known as act 231 and um you know it's a reasonable interpretation of that act that you know new the cities cannot pass construction codes that exceed um State uh construction code and energy code um elements uh but for existing buildings I wasn't aware of uh similar state preemption I know there's something called the Michigan Rehabilitation code um but taking a quick look at it you know during your meeting it looks to me like it sets a floor not a ceiling um so uh you know I would appreciate any clarification of this legal question um or from commissioner Levan who seems to have knowledge of this I'm willing to be enlightened on it um so just a warning I'll be sending you Mr Lang an email um any information is appreciated the comment is I want to remind energy commission that um over a year ago in September 2023 you had first reading of you know the carbon pollution impact fee ordinance um which it was modeled after the one that Burlington Vermont adopted last year that um puts an annual fee on um and new construction that uses natural based on the social cost of carbon um it's also similar to what uh Cambridge Massachusetts seconds doing and uh other cities are stepping up berky California is set to vote next month on um a an ordinance taxing um the owners of buildings you know new and existing uh large ones are 15 15,000 square feet or larger based on the amount of natural gas consumed um the funds generated would be estimated at around $27 million a year 90% of which would go towards retrofitting homes and buildings in the city electric hbac um anyway just want a reminder this is still on your table formally we love to see it come back thank you thank you um just make sure sorry for the juggling yeah no further callers thank thank you Joe and thank you for the for the the comments um we'll move on to items for the next agenda uh as I shared an email um that outlines some agenda items with all of the commission members um through through Joe and just to give a look ahead um in November we're hoping to have a a potential presentation from OSI staff on the greenhouse gas inventory and OSI dashboard if possible and then then in December um looking to potentially try to tease out some of the challenges associated with the implementation of a20 I think this came as the suggestion of a number of of Commissioners um and have a um that from MOSI staff and to have a discussion among staff and commission members around that and possible priorities for Council in the year ahead um and as as needed so that's the look ahead I think for the the next two commission me that those may be subject to change but I also want to open it up if there are additional um suggestions commissioner Mery um I support the request uh that we take up the resolution that uh Ken Garber just mentioned uh I had mentioned that um maybe six months ago um that we had left that dangling that resolution generally received favorable uh input I sense that the city council isn't interested in taking this up they're interested in more in uh uh carrots than sticks but I think it should be discussed um and I think when we discuss it we need to consider um the the the point that council member Briggs mentioned about uh building in an arbor versus building outside Ann Arbor but I think uh we all know that affordability is not just um rent it's also utility cost it's the travel uh or Transportation cost and it's the opportunity cost of time lost in transit so um whatever we do that minimizes that while also minimizes emissions we're doing the right thing for anabor residents and prospective residents thank you okay um seeing no further hands raised um it is now 8:04 p.m.
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Madam Secretary and have a roll call please sure Mr alre Mr gag go here uh Dr Hall rup is here Mr swales here miss site stumbris here president Brown here okay let us please stand to site the Pledge of Allegiance and also hear our mission statement Pledge of Allegiance led by board member Alex gigos and mission statement followed soon after led by Dr Hall I Al to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all and our mission is to engage and Empower our students to positively impact their community and future and our mission statement is to Eng oh oh engage and Empower our students to positively impact their community and future thank you for thank you for the clarification thank you uh any public comments okay hearing none we have any board updates other then what's listed here on Alpha a or five Alpha um I don't know should does this go on board updates what I told you I wanted to talk about or mention bu I'll do it now get it over with okay okay um I just wanted to discuss I mean I I don't know how much can be done but as I brought to your attention I wanted to bring to the board's attention the the conditions of the football field first game was really bad grass everywhere it was just overgrown um you have when we she did the fly when we did the flyover just how bad the conditions of the field were with the Brown all the brown spots and circles um trash um the garbage cans need to be if you ever walk the track you see just trash cans just filled with trash um in the middle of the game the sprinklers came on last year in the middle of the game the scoreboard goes out and I don't know how much maintenance has to do with that but it's just like always something going on and the conditions of the field when people are walking that are it's a Community Place it needs to be cleaned up the grass needs to stay cut as long as we have grass which shouldn't be a problem hopefully soon but I just think that um that needs to be looked at not because if not just for the fields that means that it's probably somewhere else as well all right I can definitely take a look at that and follow up with our um operations team thank you thank you well just quick question on that who addressed the mo of the turf the field football field is that contracted out or is that in-house do we do that in-house Jason could you address that please it's uh Keith initially contracted out on Monday and then the buildings and grounds Department uh ideally updates it throughout the week to Ure that's ready for play and I agree with Dr Hall that I was not happy uh with the condition of the field week one um I believe the field was in a good condition week zero when we had our game against Hill Crest um I totally agree with him regarding the grass clippings that were left on on the field during week one and also um we spent a lot of time Friday before I believe it was week four um getting the lines corrected and putting forth the best effort to put the field in great condition for our students and for our community members so I am aware of that I've addressed this with buildings and grounds and I'm not you know when I wasn't happy but for when I hear the last couple weeks there has been an improvement when we made some internal changes and um it's gotten my attention thank you all right appreciate it Jason okay any other public comments other than what's stated on the agenda uh yeah we on um the 29th I believe the Saturday sorry I said public comments board upates board updates yeah yes that was a year misstep uh we had the uh Fun Run uh which I particip IP ated in I don't know how well I did uh I didn't come in last so that's good was your dog there yes she came uh bill was there were you yeah that's right uh and Cheryl was there yay yeah that's right um other than that it was it was a success excellent thank you Bor members for participating uh I was there in the Spirit mhm so all right if there's no other board updates is this you Dr coges for a okay yes I just wanted to bring up for discussion uh discussion of board policy 2 colon 125 and that's regarding um board member expenses according to our policy that we just updated uh board members um are encourag to participate in additional professional development activities um in and out of the district um they are uh kind of allocated $4,500 per board member uh to seek those um professional development opportunities if by chance a board member does exceed that a board policy does um allow us to um let you vote to allow another person to person to um exceed that amount we do have one board member that has exceeded that amount and there is a request to attend to different session one of them is the um it's called the cube conference it's a councils of urban Boards of Education that would be taking place in October um so there is an total cost for that of uh $ 33700 and some change and then um additionally that would be the joint conference that everyone generally goes to which would be an additional $ 3470 so just need to find the board's uh interest in uh allowing this uh individual to go to one if not or one or the other of these conferences are we allowed to ask questions oh yes absolutely I'll do my best to answer um so there was a first conference on that list and how much was spent on that conference uh $5,500 and some change so for their very first conference knowing kind of what our budget had been set at they already went over that well I think we we are um had we had it before it was always kind of understood that if there was some overages and there was some discussion I think at the last board that was here that was allowing people to go over that and I'm not disagreeing with that but they went over the total that they were theoretically supposed to spend by $1,000 for their first conference no KN that there was the triple ey later but again as Dr Cogan alluded to Jamie that it was kind of a precedent set that if the reg The Other Board colleagues members did not utilize their full amount that it kind of It kind of I'm disagreeing with that when was that conference that July July okay so how um did they know no one else would be us money and that there would be an overage yeah I mean yeah cuz that's the fiscal we do fiscal year right I guess the question we got to look at too is we got to look at like the reason the how reasonable some of it is I mean if you look it's a 4 day three night right and if you look at the housing that's crazy like that the number doesn't it doesn't compute I mean it's a lot and we're supposed to be Ally responsible to the taxpayers and that's not and then I and I understand you're looking at the other thing but even the housing at the one in in October I'm like there's T of places you can go so I guess the question is um CU I asked a friend it you know how they did it he travels a lot for work and so the office will set up you know this is when you got to go to do a live week and then they book everything for them so they get the best rate right so who's booking everything and where I mean I'm assuming is Miss heinl doing that that is correct so all these is or were these the conference whatever and that's where they want cuz like I know one of them takes place I thought in Las Vegas right and there are some great $80 a night rates at the Stratosphere like I'm seriously asking like if you want to spend over and above what has been allotted for everyone then why aren't you trying to do it in the most financially responsible way which is not that's what I'm agree hotel that is and you can commute back and forth to that hotel for any kind of conference activities that may be going cuz Vegas has some cheap Transportation right so I don't understand what that extra expenses for can I say something I just want to say this that's why it is some checks and balances and that's why we had the dialogue and conversations over the last couple months so everyone was assure and understood the policy that we have so there's a certain level of like there was some uncertainties there on how people looked at it I and I give everybody that that leverage and that you know that position I'm not disagreeing with you but the policy is currently stated it is it is and so now we need to look back at what has been done that is going to take place after that policy technically the fiscal year started July 1 exactly that's why so I I don't know what to say at this like if you've already spent all of the money technically and you have been to other conferences multiple times you made your choice and that's why we again the board members have an opportunity to chime in on that as the policy indicate where we actually take action and open yes that would be next week right no I'm just saying like that's my perspective especially when it appears given the request that frugality was not necessarily considered I guess I guess to to to agree in that is just that when you're going somewhere and we're supposed to be fiscally responsible to the taxpayers we have to do it with you know if I'm doing something personally on my own and if I feel like I'm going to go somewhere and spend you know stay somewhere that's fine but when someone else is paying it I just think being a little bit more you know simple-minded is is is more or less I think what Jamie is saying which which I agree with because I mean I look at some of the housing there the one in July and I'm I'm blown away that that's that's what it is that's a lot I mean I'm tell you right now I booked five days of Vegas for January first and it was for one person was we uh U air flying airplane TI gets in hotel is 700 bucks yeah for for I'm like I look at these numbers I just I'm thinking you have to be responsible we're talking to the tax you know we're responsible to the taxpayers so I just look at this and the other part you got to look at the totals 127 right I got to make sure we get something out of that 127 to make sure that they're getting something out of that 127 that's a lot yeah and again that's for the board to try in on and and that's why we want to make our policies black and white for the most part and let our polies drive drive the yearly average okay um so everybody go ahead we have repeated that and when did we come up with this agreement I think in August sep August was that after July correct oh wow so I don't understand so now we understand it was after we came up with the policy no no no no because question was well how would someone knowing what the policy says do thise no because it was after it was after the policy was created before the it was not a number thec second 4500 and we went back to it we didn't know what the policy said because we assumed it was a 7,000 something like it was supposed to be written in the email yes in the email that I found I was in those meetings weum we assume that it was 7 $700,000 like it was stated in the email it was some unclarity was some unclarity but it's always been so the first trip was after was before that's what I said the yeah yeah I'm sorry the first trip was before the policy was made clear but if so after that it doesn't matter so understanding was it 7 or 7500 let's just go with 7500 safe uh you're already you're still you can't even go to the The Joint triple down exed no I understand that and that's not even a big deal to me the the big deal to me is to act like I already like it was already known can I finish I didn't I I apologize I apologize it was like as if I knew that the policy wasn't the way it was supposed to be written in the first place I have the emails from 20 was it 8617 that says it was supposed to be $7,000 nobody else has anything that states that it was changed to 4 500 other than the fact that it was changed to 4500 so I we were going by that so to say that it would be over that's fair it it would be over so then the second thing is to insinuate that who me or whoever goes out and finds these hotel prices and just is not being fiscally responsible that's not the case if you've ever if you've ever spent the time to try to get knowledgeable on board happenings you know that most of the time when you stand up place it's usually state of uh pay state of play or whatever you want to say or they try to put you at least where the conference is located and you go by those prices it's not that when you go out you you as the board member go shopping for prices and it's not like when she goes to look at the prices she's trying to be fiscally irresponsible by doing by trying to make it convenient that's not the case and it's not even when I what do I say to you on your email flight please make it as as cheap as possible one flight I took to go there I took three different flights just to make cuz I said I don't want it to be overly so to make it like oh anybody's trying to be irresponsible with funds no that's not the case and to say to look at the hotels if you look at the hotels and you go if you want to say hey the person cannot stay with the conference is because those are too much then say that put it in a policy no but there's a huge disparity but that's not that's The Who that's not the board member who does that we go by we try to stay if we you can say the same thing when when it comes to Triple I if we go to Triple I regardless of if it's within budget or not in budget the hotel price is ridiculous so to look at that and say oh this is ridiculous why are you standing you can just drive back and you got to understand from a person now in my second year not going because I don't see the fiscal the the I don't see the the benefit to the taxpayer for me to go and look at this listen to the same stuff but that's AO I decided not to go because I don't think it's fiscally responsible of me to spend that money on Triple ey to the taxpayers when I just don't see the benefit of it think that's real isue the cost benefit right is it is the district does a district really benefit worth that much money I think that's really need to be looking at not so much so the question on the table tonight isn't necessarily to debate what was the debate the question is on the table um is the board going in the direction to approve um the cube conference yet kind of a yes or no and then the next question will be will the board approve the person to go to the triple ey yes I I think again I think we got I think we got Clarity of the policy I think you know it's each it's up to each and every one of us as board members again to do a deep dying do a self valuation on how we are allocating taxpayers money so I'm definitely leaving it up to you and the board will as we I see here challenge that and so we know what's on the table we know what to vote on next next week and again I don't think nothing was was intentionally done in in a in a bad way here I I don't I think we got Clarity we went over the board policy regarding this expense over the last month so and so it's black and white now so now we all know and as they say in the legal will ignorance is not a defense right and I just want to say it's fine to say yes or no but don't try to make it like somebody did stuff on purpose and why they not be responsible and blah blah blah and no it's either no I think that's too yes or no but to try to Grand stand and be like well I'm doing this for this and I would I would never do just because you don't want to gain the and it's clear that you can only go to one confence it's clear you can only go to one conference a year at the price that we have it's about what knowledge somebody wants to gain cuz this isn't about gaining knowledge you don't know that how can you speak for me because you're saying other people don't want to gain the knowledge you said if you don't want to gain the knowledge I sure all of us would but you know what there's a time in place we each get one what's the time in place get one a year we know even but you shouldn't only get one a year because if you if you are trying to get better giving you the opportunity to speak on this and I know cuz it's just kind of going uh fair enough I know you're absolutely right thank you I really appreciate it though but I think everybody know the premis and what's going on here let us digest it we got a week to determine how we're going to vote on any I don't know exactly I would assume it may have something to do with Jud you I'm not sure what this is all about here as far as as individual per se but we know what what the large scope of things we'll have it on there for an action item next next week yeah and again everybody look within themselves when it comes to board training and say does it benefit the school district as a whole taxpayers and leave leave it up to you guys and if it's something that the board feel that that's not happening you we can chime on it okay thank you thank you guys thank you Jamie and Dr Hall and all Bill chiming in on this all right is that all for that particular I believe so yes sir board updates okay so number superintendent update so yeah administrative update superintendent a good news I do have a good news to share with you I chose not to put it in the FYI because I wanted to really present it h today so um we are really excited about some good news that we have here regarding a grant that we applied for and um I'm going to turn it over to Mr okasinski to kind of uh do the drum roll thank you Miss R yeah good evening uh good evening president Brown distinguished members of the Board of Education Dr kagin uh stand before you and I'm uh very proud to share this great news with with you um the district applied for the school violence prevention program Grant it's issued by cops office which is a subsidiary of the United States Department of Justice uh the purp purpose of the school violence prevention program Grant is to improve school safety by funding evidence-based programs and Technologies our svpp grant was one of A8 uh submitted only 203 were awarded um I'm proud to announce that the district was awarded a half a million dollars um each award thank [Music] you each award is covers a three-year span uh 36 months and duration for a maximum federal share of the $500,000 so um initially when we began this process we were just identifying a couple items that we previously discussed and I'll speak on a little bit later but uh you know the team decided hey if we can go up to 500,000 let's not let's try and go for 500,000 so um we did um that's the envelope we pushed and as I said we're proud to announce that we rewarded that amount of money there is a local cash Max uh cash match excuse me a cost share requirement of at least 25% so the district does need to put up $125,000 over that three-year period to ensure that they we meet the parameters of this grant um what I'd like to do now is take a few moment moments to just thank some individuals that were involved with that and also some of our local uh stakeholders that also helped make this a possibility for us um in the audience tonight I have Mr Robin Tobias uh Jamie Heisman Vicente Castillo and not in attendance was Carmen Thompson um all of those were integral in gathering information in the process to help us apply for the grant and last but not least I would like to thank Miss Andrea pow who spearheaded the initi um she served as the point person between us and the grant specialist that we worked with um she was present in every meeting and um it's just a pleasure and uh just a great job by her so um and everybody to be honest with you but I can't stress enough how much you know these individuals worked outside of their normal job responsibilities to help secure funds for this district and also make your vision of providing this as a safe environment for our students and staff members so um I would like to take a moment and thank them for their hard [Applause] work I would also like to thank uh individuals from our local municipalities Village President Michael ironhorn on behalf of the village of cre Dr uh I'm sorry mayor Dr theres Bogues on behalf of the village of Moni in addition I would like to also thank some First Responders uh our local First Responders the village of Creek Police Department univiversity Park Police Department Moni Village Police Department and the Park Forest Police Department all submitted letters of support for this grant I would also like to thank the village of cre fire department um and the Moni fire department for Furnishing letters of support also sorry was a long process and uh they did a great job getting all this support um we also received uh a letter of support from US senator dick Durban and other Community Partners such as First Baptist Church of University Park Dr Reverend Reginal Williams Jr Schoolhouse Counseling Center of Chicago Illinois Nicole coffee cre Area Chamber of Commerce Jamie Healey and creep Mony 201u Education Foundation Reverend James E hunt and last but not least our kids count uh Mr donzel Franklin items that will be covered with the grant over the three-year period um we are looking to upgrade our current camera system uh with digital cameras and install new cameras as needed and identified throughout the district we also looking to install shatter resistant or complete our uh project of shatter resistant window film and the new Bridges edition of the high school and also the rear of the high school where we have the cafeteria and all those open windows in the back we are looking to upgrade classroom door security for our lower level classrooms we have a series of handheld weapon detectors that we are also purchasing at brand new and last but not least we'll be looking to implement a camera weapons detection system um and those are the items that we included in the Grant application and that were approved uh with that being said uh I'll open this up for any questions or any comments regarding uh the SVP Grant excellent job thank you I mean actually all the work goes to them to be honest with you is to continue the safety and and if you turn on the news and see it every single day it's crazy so the fact that we continue and the staff continues to take strides forward is amazing now that but you know presenting a you know a budget deficit this money will really help us out and we can definitely work forward um freeing up that area uh those amounts of cash um to see this thing through but it's definitely something to help with the district I agree with you Mr swes any of them no questions but thank you to everybody and congratulations phen thank you very much but one thing I would like to add I just when you was just spilling out those names in one group after another I was waiting to hear just the entire District participation and you hit them all you hit University Park Park Forest Mooney Creek uh that was just a great and and internal team player stakeholders as well that was just a collaborative teamwork effort and this is the result of that so good job you spear hen this and and our security director Robin over there for doing such a great job this is this is a wind wind wind win so keep up the good work all you know people make the places and it's definitely a great place to work and have a great team working with me so thank you excellent thank you thank you for all you do let's give them one more this actually ties in very well to our next topic um okay go ahead um fa you know over the course of the last seven years as we've been really focusing on the future forward with all the work that we've been doing here ultimately the goal was trying to really integrate all four communities into working together for a common cause and as you know it wasn't as smooth at the beginning but it is now and I think this is just Testament to see how everybody did come together for a really good project to benefit all of our students here in the district and keeping in vain with that same philosophy is you know a conversation about perhaps thinking about how we're going to Brand our schools to finish that Unity piece um I had mentioned it in my FYI to maybe think about talking to see if there was some interest in an updating or adjusting some of our elementary buildings um to have a similar name to unify them to dignify the various communities that they come from you know there's been conversation all along about you know the all the schools were in the creek Moni uh School District but not all the schools are represented since they're in Park Forest they're in University Park and so forth um so so and thinking about that one way that we could kind of unite them without changing everything would be to just unify them through their their towns such as if we were to rename our elementaries it would be cre Elementary of of cre uh Moni Elementary of Moni uh tala of Park Forest Bal moral of creit leaving the middle school and high school alone because of I think some of the work so anyway we're just wning to bring that c sorry I didn't have on my list yes of course CR Scott King Magnet School of University Park so I'm just bringing this up as a discussion point to see if there's any interest in kind of continuing that conversation I have so many questions oh boy but at least we know what's driving and I thought that was what was driving what was driving but cre Elementary of of cre and mon Elementary of mon is a little redundant I'm open for other suggest and I mean not to be funny but like is like so to our I know who ketta Scott King is but and I'm assuming to ala and Bel moral are named after particularly important community members after a street name meod probably the RAC is no longer here okay all right so hear me out we've got a cre Elementary we could we do a Park Forest Elementary we've got a mon Elementary and then the the Bal moral which is also in cre how about this University Parks kescott King school it's still long I mean yeah this mon Elementry of mon I mean that's in the cre don't need to be changed but the other ones because they don't are not so I'm going to write these down these are good ideas okay so what do we have again Elementary Park Forest Park Forest and you can't change kis Scott King so that's going to have to be long if you really want to put so it could be of or could be University Parks to make it consistent yeah yeah okay so I've got Park Force Elementary CS can I say I'm sorry the only thing I could see changing is maybe the Middle School to University Park middle but I don't know and and that's actually not a bad idea that's not a bad idea except that it's it's hard to reflect the Rebrand all of it but yeah cuz I mean cuz you already have the high school that's the creep on need because of the township and that's why I think to suain uniform if we're trying to Brand it with the Warriors you'd almost want to do Creon junior high school because you're you're trying to keep it all consistent from one building so that they're growing into a seven-year thing instead of a three and a four right you don't want to keep them separated I can see that well like in K ke all of their schools are K whether it's V stuen they're the K whether it's um Kennedy they're the K everybody's the ks and the and the colors are the same so so the mascot stays the same the mascot stays the same so they're still the Warriors but they would be uh University Park Middle School right Warriors yeah right everything is the C like out there everything is the casay that's just an idea I'm not opposed that that would be kind of cool yeah just okay so I've got Park Forest um Elementary I've got University Park CSK univers City Park Middle School what about B moral yeah see I was going to say I think I think you stick with the elementary schools first and see how that goes over any meaning and see how that because obviously cre Mooney they already have the name in so you don't need to do it but balm moral CSK and tala definitely want to make them feel like where they belong right I mean tala is tala men but it's part of Park Forest so it should have some sort of meaning for them there for sure ball moral should have some sort of meaning to that too whether whether it be Creed or however it's presented but B moral tala um CSK you're going to want I think you just Rebrand for sure to make sure that and I think the main reason for rebranding B Maro is because while there was a Creek Elementary B marrow was after the racetrack but the race track is no longer there so I don't know we can B think about that one because we want something important I think at one time Bal was called intermediate Center I believe wasn't it it was something in that predates me yeah yeah but I agree uh there was some redundancy there saying cre Elementary of creed mon Elementary of Moni but I I want to go back and about Park Force I think because tala has been a name stuck with Park Force you know the school in park Force for a long time I would probably want to keep that name in there toala so Park Force I I don't know how to put it but I would probably want to keep tala with Park Force have Park force in there and Tava well can I ask why because why because it's just so known now you're taking a whole name out wouldn't that by that logic wouldn't you want to keep B moral then too because that's all because well then we're back to the putting the towns in the names right and Barrow is unincorporated it's not in the village Incorporated unincorporated Elementary School I mean it's it's unincorporated it's in right then say unincorporated call it it's an unincorporated you say I'm not disagreeing with you I just putting their name with the town then brings us back to the same park tala yeah I don't know I just guess the point is we agree that we want some kind of unity in the communities but don't completely agree with the selected name and it's up disc this just a starting point but I think but I'm sure there's a lot of really creative people if you put it out to staff maybe the community or the students should get a vote okay so it sounds like people are open to kind of revisiting this rebranding this to kind of create that finishing off that Unity piece yeah I think the schools that don't have their name like create Elementary and morning Elementary I don't think you change right but the other ones I think you give the buildings too that have been there people that have been there for a while maybe they have some insight on that the staff yeah all right I will um bring this back and start moving it through the staff and circulate it we just needed to find out if the board was interested in going in that direction sounds like you support that we'll let the uh the Titan loose we'll let the buildings kind of have voice in this process and I we'll keep you informed I'm going to take it a little further though um I think that was some talk about the bridges program building that so I think we got some push back on that and I think do we want to name they they just want to call it the South the students specifically said that they didn't want it to be named something different they just wanted have it be called the South Wing so they don't feel like but there's a purpose for that though well it's a program within the building so the bridges program is uh is a just like any other program that we would have is in the building but it doesn't need own building name I don't care what you do with it I just I'm just saying there was a purpose behind correct call it because you are you have been put in this for a reason so and it is a a separation between the two but I mean we can bring it back to the kids just like we do the rest of these um to get their voice on that so so okay I'm taking another step okay Leaps and Bounds today and what do you guys think about naming the new ad building with a name I personally thought about Dr kogan that langage we could call it the Cog billing or something kagin just does not roll out the new Administration build yeah I'm just throwing it out no administ the ad building yeah not agriculture think coming up with a name would be very difficult but um I it's a good idea I just think agreeing on a name that's very meaningful will be very difficult why do you think than sir because you're going to get all kinds of opinions I don't is there any name or any person or anything that really stands out or you know that's what I think is going to be difficult so that was it those the buildings that we have so I just threw it out there on the table couple with her bringing it up as a topic of discussion okay so so that's great so you're going to what's our next stuff just bring us some next I'm going to go back to the buildings and talk with the building principles about this and then figure out some sort of process that we could do to start engaging our stakeholders at the building level okay just the elementary school elementary schools correct well I had heard from the middle school as well I thought that was discussed here okay so yeah the middle school at least they can have a voice in that to see if they want to do that okay okay cuz I looked at the middle school you know when it kind of came across my plate is the middle school is it's not technically a neighborhood school that's where all of our kids go I know CSK you know we you know but yeah we still I still think CSK is a neighborhood school you know even though we don't have majority of our neighborhood kids from University Park attending that school but you know that name was Chang but CSK I know always said keeping things consistent from the high school to the middle school you know with the Warriors brand so I don't know so right now it sounds like we for sure at least the board is for sure were keeping Creed Elementary and mon Elementary the same I think that was kind of a consensus so the other the other names I guess you could deal with that too okay I'll start working on that and mo uh um the middle school with the opportunity to chim in is the high school changing the name too I don't think so I think that's going to be the hardest one to do yeah okay because I think what would be the reason high school but yeah you figure University part came into the plue probably 1969 1970 when that Village was was first uh brought about and I think the high school in it of itself was named after you had Moy Township in Creek that's all you had here one time so they collectively brought those two township names together and that's still the the only two townships though right that is right so that is the reasoning but yeah I think I don't know a little bit bits and pieces with beer I don't know if that's Washington Township or whatever I don't know if that's still Creek Township with the Beacher students that come here but for the most part The Heavy Hitters are you know Park 4S University Park Creed and Moy so okay that's all okay moving on to business then yeah so next up is with you the business yes uh Brian Johnson I'm going to have him uh and Russell uh talk about our 24 audit which is ready to go nice and early thank you good evening everyone my name is Brian Johnson Director of Finance for the school district I'm here to introduce Lindsay fish who is the audit partner who oversaw our fiscal year 24 audit and she'll touch on the highlights of the audit and be able to answer any questions you might have thank you good evening I'm not as tall as everyone else can you hear me okay yeah okay perfect um so as Brian said my name is Lindsay fish I am a partner at sikit I was in charge of overseeing the audit for the school district this year um this was the second year that we've performed the audit for the school district um as a result of our audit we've issued several different reports I can see the stacks in front of everyone so you've got copies in front of you um what I'll cover tonight is the annual Financial report which is the largest of the reports that are in front of you I'll do a quick highlight of the single audit report and then I'll touch on the ISB AFR which is the one thick report that's not found um let's start with the annual financial report flipping that open a couple pages to page number one on sikic letterhead this is the independent auditor report our opinion is on the second paragraph down um we've issued a clean unmodified opinion on the district's financial statements this is the highest level of Assurance we can provide and the type of opinion that you want to receive so congratulations to the district on the receipt of that unmodified opinion next page I'll cover is page number five just flip a few pages forward this is also on sikic letterhead another opinion so this is our independent Auditor's report on internal control over financial reporting and on compliance um this second opinion is required due to the amount of state and federal funding that the district spends on an annual basis um the results of our procedure noted no non-compliance with laws or Grant regulations um we did have one finding related to segregation of Duties um which has been repeated for the last several years and I'll go over that finding in a moment here as we flip the pages forward so page number seven um we'll show you the details of that one finding that we noted this year um again just relates to segregation of Duties due to you know limited Personnel in the finance team um the district has provided what we call a corrective action plan um so their response to the finding um is included within the single audit report um however you know the corrective action plan for the district is essentially um just continuing to provide what we call like compensating controls which means just additional oversight review and approval of those transactions that are under that segregation of Duties issue flipping two pages forward from there is page mdna number one so this um titled Management's discussion and Analysis and and truly is is um provided by management um what we do as Auditors is just make sure uh the numbers are consistent with with what is reported within your financial statements and just ensure that everything is presented as it should be within this Management's discussion and Analysis um so you've got a you know a big report in front of you and I would like to think that everyone's going to read this from cover to cover but I'm not so sure so if there is one part of this report you're going to read read the management discussion analysis that's your starting point that's your required reading right there so it's just a good high level overview of your financial statements gives some comparative information and also gives you some of the reason the why behind why some of these numbers change that you won't necessarily see elsewhere within your financial statements and just kind of give some good explanations of you know what's presented and what these numbers mean so start with the management discussion analysis when you're reviewing the report from there I'm going to flip to page nine and 10 this is your statement of net position for the school district um I call this like the 10,000 foot view of your financials um the reason I say that is this pulls in any long-term capital assets of the district as well as any long-term liabilities so any outstanding debt as well as any pension liabilities are all pulled into this presentation this present presentation isn't really used by the district you don't want a day-to-day operational basis it's something that you usually just see annually during the audit it's required to be presented to receive that unmodified opinion um page number 10 would be my focus here on the statement of net position you'll see your total net position is 2.5 million of that you had 19 million that was your investment and capital assets so that's your value of capital assets less any debt that was issued to acquire those Capital assets and then you have net position that's restricted for various purposes usually due to tax levies in those funds and then you had an unrestricted deficit of million flip the page to page number 11 this is your statement of activities um still that kind of high level Focus there um of the district's activities so the second line up from the bottom there is your change in net position um so this not only includes the changes within your funds themsel but also includes those longterm changes so it pulls in things such as depreciation expense payments on bonds things of that nature all get pulled into this change here so third line up from the bottom there you had a slight decline in net position of 6.7 million um so net position went from 9 million to about 2.5 million page 12 and 13 is your balance sheet for your governmental fund so this is going to be a little similar to probably more what you're used to seeing um takes out any long-term debt takes out any assets um general fund is your education plus working cash fund and then you have a column for each individual fund of the district as well um one highlight I would like to point out for your general fund um a metric that we look at is comparing your fund balance to your annual operating expenditures um so total fund balance there was 29 million you had total expenditures of 92 million so about four months or so worth of reserves there in your education fund right kind of in the range that you want to be there or your general fund rather so General is education plus working cash from there I'll flip to page 16 and 17 um this is your income statement for your various funds uh kind of two lines that I think the focus should be here the first would be um about five lines up from the bottom it says access deficiency of revenues over expenditures so this kind of shows you how your fund balance changed in each individual fund for the year and then the third line up from the bottom is your net change in fund balance the only difference there is that net change takes into account any transfers that you had during the year um so overall you did have a decrease in fund balance of 21 million um fund balance went from 70.8 million to 49.6 million um biggest driver of that decrease is really could just be looking at that capital projects fund column um that change in the capital project Pro fund of 21.8 million pretty much accounts for that change in your fund balance so you know almost all attributable to any planned Capital spending you had during the year um as you continue flipping through you'll come to page 20 so this is the notes to the financial statements not going to go over these in detail I just wanted to highlight you know what's included here so um this gives you further details on any accounting policies of the district you'll also find further details on the district's Capital assets further Det details on any long-term debt outstanding as well as repayment schedules there in the notes the financial statements and then also um quite a bit of pension information is included within those financial statements as well so um essentially just backup for what those numbers are that you're seeing is just a little more context is what you'll find in the notes the financial statements um from there I'm going to flip uh quite a few pages to page 56 and 57 and and not going to cover these pages in detail but just wanted to highlight starting on page 56 is where you can find the budget versus actual um so there's a budget versus actual that is presented for each fund of the district for you to review the last item I would like to cover within the annual financial report um relates to the district's pension plans so this starts on page 74 and 75 um page 74 is your pension liability for Illinois Municipal retirement fund imrf bottom corner of page 74 you'll see your net pension liability so you at December 31st 2023 because this is based on imf's fiscal year end you had a net pension liability of 2.7 million and then the top corner of page 75 you'll see your percentage funded status so 94% funded so really a very strong position um to be at 94% funded in your pension plan IM has historically been well funded page number so if we go back to 2021 is there is there a point where we you consider we just have too much money we overly fund it so so you you had you did have a net pension asset in 2021 and so really what kind of drives those changes you know a lot of calculations go into these Actuarial valuations but the money that you have sent to imrf they invest that money for returns and so stock market going up and down can affect how your net pension liability goes up and down so that's why the focus is more so like on the percentage funded so it could fluctuate but overall 94% funded very well positioned and what that means for you like right now what ises having a net pension liability versus asset mean it really kind of drives what your employer contribution rate will be for imrf um that you're required to send to them so you could see as you have your liability go down or even turn into an asset um your employer rate will go down okay all right thank you page 7 6 is TRS um so this is measured one year behind so June 30th 2023 the district had a net pension liability of 2.8 million um however the dis the state um has a share like picks up a share of your liability for you which is the largest share um so overall your liability was 249 million your share was 2.8 million the state's share was 246 million um on the bottom there you'll see your funded status so 43.9% funded um so not you know as well as IMA but still decently positioned and and one thing that's kind of worth mentioning um for TRS is that all schools are involved and you just have a share of that liability so you couldn't just send more money to TRS to make that liability go down you just give them your required contributions and then they calculate your liability there's not really much more you can do if you want to change that liability so just worth mentioning you're doing everything that you're supposed to regarding that liability great page number 77 is your other post-employment benefits this relates to retiree Healthcare um this page is specifically for imrf employees so not teachers um had an opab liability of about 1 million um for that plan and then last but not least is page 78 this is the teachers health insurance Security fund um the district share of the liability was 8 .9 million the state's share was 12 million overall um had a net pension liability there of 21 million um that went historically not as well funded at 6% funded but similar to TRS you're just paying your acquired contributions and nothing more but doing exactly what you should for that pension essentially so that concludes my comments on the annual financial report next I'm going to cover the single audit and I just want to cover one page in the single audit and it is page number number 11 and I'll use my like one auditor accounting joke that this is what we call your report card here so it's our turn to give you a report card so it's kind of your summary of auditor results here so we've issued unmodified opinion on your single audit um there's a section called internal control over financial reporting so we covered yes there was one significant deficiency in internal control um no material weaknesses no non-compliance noted and then for our internal control over your major program we had no material weaknesses significant deficiencies and no audit findings um the district had Federal expenditures of 11.3 million dollar this year of that we tested 7.6 million during our single audit so about 67% of your federal expenditures um were covered under our single audit this year so overall a clean single audit report you have there and then lastly is the ISB AFR which is the Unbound report and here I would just like to C cover your financial profile score so this ISB AFR essentially what's in this ISB AFR is regurgitating all the numbers that are in that annual financial report we put into this format that's required by ISB and is submitted to ISB um so the financial profile summary which is on page number four on the top corner there um is isb's calculation u based upon operating funds of the district um so they look at you know five different metrics here and then they calculate a weighted score for each of those metrics your total profile score was 3.7 which was the same as previous years um it puts the district in that recognition category um so congratulations the district again on the the receive that recognition profile score as well um that concludes my comments but I would be happy to answer any questions you know I have run a small organization and always get that segregation of Duties um comment and I'm wondering is there any way not to with the the staff with the size that it is is there any way to satisfy that ever like there there could be you might get a little creative so it's kind of you have to look at the cost benefit I think like is it is it worth the benefit of not having that segregation of Duties to you know do these other and does that affect anything when people look at this does I mean I I everything I see always has that like almost every audit I ever see so does that affect anybody that looks at these you know not necessar um but I think it's important to still include it in there because you know the compensating control I talked about or kind of what what you do to combat that segregation of Duties is the review and approval process so always I'll bring it up every year because the review and approval is kind of the control there um that helps you with that segregation of Duties so not only like the district Finance team's review but the board's review process as well all right thank you any other questions um I I have a couple here page 80 when you're going back to your combined balance sheet and you mentioned over assets here uh the receivables and it says receivable property tax is net intergovernmental what is exactly is that because that 17 million is a small number when I see the money we are receiving from taxes so I believe um how it's calculated it's like half of next year's Levy is kind of how the recognizes the property taxes that's probably hit it um but I will say that that receivable is basically it's offset um under the Deferred inflows line by that same amount so those net to zero and the reason that that's presented that way is that that receivable that you have is really intended to finance next year um so it's both an and a liability that doesn't really it's no impact on your income statement on the current year because it's intended to finance next year okay so assets and minus liabilities is equity right am I saying that right again I'm not trying to pretend to be account here okay so I see the liabilities so what would you consider Equity here I see your I'm seeing your liabilities here I'm seeing your assets what would be considered sure so I see your fund balance here yeah so it' be like the total assets of the 39 million okay and then minus not only liabilities but those deferred inflows so again like that large property tax item so that total would be that 23 the 23 million so 9us 23 that's what gives you that 16.2 million second line from the bottom get it yep so then we have the unassigned of 13 million and then the assigned for future years's budget so since you had unbalanced budget um we just show that essentially you're planning to spend that fund balance next year so it's assigned for next year's budget okay great and two more questions here be simple going back to the segregation of Duty is that a a account phrase itself or is that segregation of Duties yeah yeah okay one more here and then I'm going to release you first of all good job this is very well prepared very professional so I really appreciate the effort your team put into this it was going back to I don't know what number of pages the MD na6 yep yeah yeah I don't know if you would consider that I guess a paid five you got two fives but that's what it is it shows the pie chart just opposite of this pie chart here yep and under revenues you list General revenues property taxes and then the personal property replacement tax is that that corporate yep got it okay that's what that is it's usually abbreviated CC cppr RT there you go okay I was trying to find that so that's sources that we get our money that's all I have thank you so much anybody else have any questions no I don't have any questions I just think it's interesting like our P I don't know the terminology you were talking about our percentage of how we fund our pensions and then I'd be curious to see what the states percentages you don't have any idea what it is do you I I honestly haven't looked at what theirs is recently so I can't comment on that but of all that crossed my mind but I tell you what of all you said for us to come back and get that 3.7 for the state recognition for the state profile that I think that ties with the highest score we ever had so you can come back anytime you want long as you bring that number back with I'll see what I can do right and I would just like to say say thank you to Brian and and his team as well for all their they really they really keep us l and a lot goes above and beyond his normal job duties goes into the audit and I email him and he gets right back to me it's amazing so he's great to work with as well yes and there even one thing doing the audit that I I found that I think we need to do better at with a manual I don't want to get into further discussion but they hopped right on it and said we're going to include that for next year so I think you guys responded back to me on that and and I said basically no further actions on my part the team basically got it so great job thank you is that 3.7 your recommendation to ISB that's how ISB calculates it so that's just we put all the data into that ISB AFR and they have all these formulas that pull in the data and they calculate it that way so is that printed in here on what page I yeah it's page number four but it's not four pages in it is I don't know 15 pages in but okay it's if you can see it from here I'll you theage like so it's page number four on the top gotcha but page number a little odd there just like is be that we just dump the data into essentially thank you yes so board members you have homework to do to go home tonight and go through all of this tonight you have trouble sleeping you can read it cover to cover well great job excellent job for presenting giving us so there was nothing again you kind of alluded to it already but nothing just stood out that we have to address as a high priority at this point point right just that segregation of Duties issue I mean we could get creative and maybe you know sit down with Jason and Brian next year during the start of the audit and see if there's maybe ways we can segregate items but otherwise things are operating pretty Sly okay great all right thank you thank you good [Applause] job all righty next up for discussion is the six Bravo number two discussion on the camon education center yes um we're bringing this back up again I as you recall um we were going through the process of uh trying to put the Mec building up for sale um we did have a someone in the community that was interested and I'm going to ask Jason to just give uh just an overview of that and then we can have a discussion about next steps good evening again um regarding the sale of Mo education center um as presented last spring um district has two options regarding uh the sale of Moni uh education center uh first option was the sale of the property to another public government uh public SLG government entity um we did receive some interest from the Village of Moni we were in communication with them uh going back and forth in fact they uh ordered an appraisal on a property we ordered an updated appraisal on the property and uh my last communications with representatives from the University of I mean not University I'm sorry the village of monim my apologies um when I responded to them with the new appraise value um of $615,000 I was informed that at this time the village of mon is not interested in pursuing uh purchasing the property so that leaves us with the option uh number two which is to sell sell the property to anyone other than a public SLG government entity and that could be done in two methods one uh is an auction method and the other is the sealed bid method so um I believe and Eric correct me if I'm wrong you can set a floor price on both of those uh I know you can with the seal bid I'm not too sure about the auction so we have ask for a legal representative to uh join us tonight and share their insight and their opinion on the matter yeah so you're correct that you can set a minimum a reasonable minimum floor price um it can be used with either method um and and really the procedure how we work it out is you would have the resolution you would pass as be by two-thirds majority saying that you want to sell the property that kind of kick starts the process um and then uh within 60 days of that is when you're supposed to have either that sealed bid process or the aution um and then in the weeks leading up to either the sealed bid opening or the um you know the auction you have to provide three successive weeks of notice in a locally circulated newspaper um and there's a couple other uh you know kind of little things you have to do throughout the process but that's the general process you adopt the resolution um you provide notice ahead of the auction or uh bid opening and then you get your your offers and then uh if you've a minimum price then if none of the um offers are basically meeting that price the district would then have the opportunity to engage the services of a real estate broker um there's some restrictions on the type of compensation they can releve it's a maximum of a 7% commission and that has to be contingent on the property being sold within 120 days after them being engaged um so that's kind of the general process any any other specific questions on that I don't I don't have any sir but I'll be sure to be in touch with your firm deciding the action that the board wants to take we're happy to help so great I I do have a question on that process where if someone won the bid per se just from the dollar amount how do we determine if that group or that person is qualified to obtain the money necessary to acquire the property how do we do that how how do we verbalize that in other words they won the bid and when it came to like okay you want the bed we want x amount of dollars by c a certain date to close on it and they cannot come up with that money do you go to the next person or what how do that work um at that point in time um you would probably you could probably decide to reopen the bidding at that point if you wanted to or go back I haven't had that happen in the past um so that's something they I want to double check but I think that the the process would be that you could either go back to the the next highest purchaser or you could reopen up the bidding um I I would say can you put some can you verbalize it I I guess we don't have to get into details just so you don't waste time going back and rebidding and putting out for auction to have these serious people that's serious to bid on this put up some x amount of dollars I don't want to say earnest money I don't know I mean that's that's kind of what I was thinking president a significant amount of non-refundable earnest money so if they can't qualify they're not because because it just when you when you submit a request for proposals or bids you have I don't know um bid bonds for example a bid Bond you end up put in that money and you win the bid and you say you know you want to bail out or whatever you lose your bid Bond money so that something to that effect you don't want to waste our time can't you get a letter of intent or say like you do do that exist at this level there has to be some consequences there has to be some consequences if a person said okay on paper you wanted to B but you know what you really didn't have any intentions on buying this or you you know you don't have the money or you waiting for someone at that point I think it would be easy just to push them aside and go to the next person that that's what you can do that you can do that right you can do that but that's why we verbalize that to say that okay and people know up front that they have an opportunity to get it even though they were the second when it's announced on a s s bid opening and the lost bidder won it and the next lost bidder then but there still may be an opportunity I don't think you at that point say you won a bid just she was the lowest bidder there there actually should be some other verbage you could highest better oh highest bidder you could also is it highest bidder yeah highest bid say yeah yeah I'm just doing just the opposite this particular yeah the highest bid yes in in this situation president Brown you're correct we want to get the most money for what we're selling yeah when we go out to bid we like to have the lowest yeah when I say lowest bidder I mean you know it's the win put it like this the winning bid high or low winning the winning winning bident terminology yeah the winning bidder you can also when you if you did the bidding process you could have you know specs that you would essentially have on the bid so you could have for example um pre-approved financing requirements and stuff like that there's all types of options that put there just I I just don't want to go out there spend this time and only for the person that won the bid is not qualified for it and now we have to start the process over that's all that's my intent of saying what I said I understand the the last thing I'll just add to is if you set a minimum price and then for example you did not get any of no one met that price for example and then you ultimately decided to lower the price you'd have to Rego through the entire bidding process once again just something to keep in mind so we want we want to be one and done with this I would say right we want to be one and done and and still trying to obtain what we want one and done and but still trying to me meeting our goal best we could we put on Next Step yes I am I don't know well the next step is the two pro proc it's the it's bidding and out right or the property transfer which we were entertaining with the village of mon right where you just it's the no it's the the auction or the seal and are there like prosen kinds of each of those or you can't do you can't do the property kind you can't do the property transfer again if someone wanted to is that only with a government entity or is that with a nonprofit organization as well when you can just entertain Ain contractual talk with just that one sole per uh entity from my understanding and based on the research I have it's a public SLG government entity not a nonprofit okay public okay so a nonprofit would probably be subject to option two which is the auction or the seal bid okay that's correct so seal bid or auction which is open that's I'm wondering is which direction do we want to go so I guess my question is based off of your for you all's expertise is one better than the other um or do you need time to try to look at it and see which one might benefit us more than than the other you know I would like a little time to um consult with legal counsel on that um to be honest with you this isn't a common practice of selling School dist you know school buildings um which limits our uh you know the potential buyers out there so that is one thing that I would ask they do tend to seem the same um I'm familiar with sealed bid processes based on everything we do um and I just don't know how the auction would actually work out but I'll be sure to I would think it would be additional money if a seal bid there's no middle person when you auction office there got to be Auctioneer out there that we have to pay I would a certain percentage so I would think financially the seal B bid process would be probably better and we got to put a floor on it so it does yes we put a minimum amount or whatever we we're looking and we don't have to deal with people they submit their bid you have a a bid opening at a certain time you open it up for the public to come in sit in or however you want to do it so I would think probably the seal bid should be the best way so you need to talk to him and then you all will come back to us and let us know we don't have to make a decision tonight right no okay no but I think we do need to go close session for that because in negotiating so that'll be next time not we don't have it could be next I I guess my point is we can move on if they need to talk yes am I right okay there you go thank you so was it a consensus that the board have our counsel and our business assistant I'm oh I just assuming that they had to talk regardless yes so no for for the best approach yep yes next week okay you guys going to talk about that with the best approach and even a recommendation our offic will'll communicate with him so that next week we can at the board meeting we can have a better idea of if we have a recommended approach between either auction or a sealed bid process yeah probably see what's the monetary value of an auction you know it pays a lot for that guy to go you know how they speaks like that all right all right thank you uh assistant superintendent for bringing us to number oh we got three oh and four four all right it's on you number three apologies I forgot my agenda over here you're supposed to know this by hard [Laughter] Jason kind of want to zip through this like Dr cogin when she reads off all the bills and stuff but I don't think we can so um you did you did Pat dudes um addressing uh item number six Bravo 3 as president Brown would say I'd like to open up a discussion to accept and approve awarding the project of the creep Moni High School renovations to Burns and Jones Construction to include a multiport a new multiports stadium new baseball and softball fields a practice field renovate tennis courts create pickle ball courts and new asphalt to all existing asph on the creep mon high school campus so so the only question I have is in the FYI so it says that um the Tiff has been the Will County Clerk has confirmed that they received it and it's going to add about 92.3 million to our eav so we've discussed this we've talked about it and we've proved it in both phases of this correct yes um but can you maybe by the next meeting or being say even in November is fine figuring out now that Moy and up have closed those tiffs there's I want second Mr swallers um the only Tiff that was dissolved a year ear early was Tiff five in University Park uh mon is not going to disolve their Tiff year early um those funds will be captured in fy2 Levy so then it'll be pushed a year um yeah it's just not being dissolved a year early I think that are we actually dissolving till 5 in up early yes it's dissolving not early I'm sorry it's dissolving it on time yeah so then we'll have if I understand right the 92.3 brought us roughly $4.8 or5 million yeah it'd be roughly our effective tax rate is slightly over 5% so when M dissolves there is that'll be approximately 1.1 million or somewhere around depending upon what the eav is and then what our our ra at that time could be more or less could be um depending upon the way our econom is going and the property value so with that being said we have both of these projects but is there a way we can just say that hey the total amount is going to be approximately $6 million what are we using that for and how is it going to be distributed so that I can definitely have that for you uh one thing that I do want to keep in mind I know we've had previous discussions about what those funds would be for and you know we were just estimating around $6 million we were looking at about $2 million for uh you know alternative revenue bonds to fund those annual payments we're also looking at about $2 million a year for preventative maintenance to ensure that all the work that we've done is uh going to sustain you know a substantial amount of time and then there was also the the leftover amount um kind of still in that scenario uh one thing I do want to continue to emphasize is that we did you know approve a budget of roughly $580 some, deficit so um hopefully we don't need to use the money for that cuz I know that with the idea of the Tiff rolling off that that would be new money that we can't use for other things but that's something that's closely on Brian and my radar to be honest with you and that's exactly what I want to make sure is that 2 million was supposed to go for the the bond payment 2 million for preventive which we need to make sure that every the money that we spent is maintained correct and um actually I've also spoken with Brian Brian's in the process of creating account codes specifically desicated to dedicated to preventive maintenance for the buildings and grounds department so that will give us a Tracker a way to track those funds they're just now looped in with the overall buildings and grounds funds and don't get co-mingled to what we currently spend and with the you up Tiff and even Moy being delayed a year it's not going to affect it because the mo is approximately 1 million and you're only looking for four out of that six right now the other two would go into general fund or what wherever so at least we're at least moving forward with everything else correct it it won't come all at once but it will be coming subsequent years yeah okay um and I'm probably missing it is the finalized Renovations of the Middle School in here no they're not in there at this time but the funds from the the issuance of alternative revenue bonds would address the um renovations to the middle school that was presented I believe was last May it'll be allocated for when we did the other projects that's kind of how we no I just want to make sure like that was my like I think when we voted on that it's I think we earmarked it that specifically cool perfect I just wanted to make sure is that right we specifically earmarked the Middle School the sports uh number three number four and then the middle school is all earmarked out of that money correct B the yeah correct the reason I didn't put it on the agenda uh at this time is because um you know just to keep our time frame of starting the Sports plex and completing it by next fall where we uh we do need to get moving on this if we want to stick with that time frame if we don't take action now then there is a possibility that it you know it will be delayed a year and you had to wait until this happened anyways right to confirmation correct right and that was the big thing you know uh Mr surma attended the meeting on May 28th when it was passed we felt that as if we could not move forward in good faith without having word from the Will County Clerk that the paperwork has actually been filed and uh I received that word I believe leave on sept the afternoon of September 20th sorry if you don't mind no burn bernon Jones and and bear are they holding their price is it staying yes they are um yeah they're holding their price from the letter intent that was issued um I believe it was approved in March of 2024 so now the for the Middle School same thing is there anything on that that's with it being out so far we did a projected estimation right projected estim now who are you are you're going to start working on at least the preliminary um renderings and all the architectural stuff so we can get some good hard budget numbers yes we are we've actually started working with Burns and Jones in regarding the preliminary site development for the sports plx um I will be reaching out to Bear not only for the concession stand but fact that the middle school project is much bigger um I'm going to work on that as well all right now that we have financing secur thank you you you can walk and chew gum at the same time I would hope so okay all right anything else any questions for Jason for number three okay so uh quick question sorry I uh wanted to see uh the tennis courts they're uh are they going to be painted with pickle ball courts on them or like are you you taking a you're not taking away the tennis courts right we currently have eight tennis courts four of them will remain tennis courts and then the other four will be converted to 14 pickle ball courts okay both courts will be crack fi refinished and resurfaced and everything to make both of them playable and keep them in excellent condition okay I just all right thank you when you remind me something we do have a tennis team right do we have a tennis okay and the courts are being used right yes they are that's why we're not eliminating all courts boys and girls boys and girls okay great and our hope is to to also you know introduce pickle ball not only as a a sport but through the curriculum of the physical education department and giving our students exposure to a Leisure an additional Leisure sport you wonder if HSA is going to adopt that at some point I I I given the popularity I've seen in certain areas it's it's it's definitely growing yep okay I do challenge you Jason and Alex thank you for bringing that up and I think I brought this up once before that's the pickle ball court the sound the decibels that they you know playing with the noise level and all of that just make sure before we finalize the drawings and we know if there's some type of noise level that's acceptable and I don't know what guidelines is out there but I know just the profession that I'm in there's certain noise level that we have to maintain in the neighborhood whatever if if not we could get fined by yes and I've I've actually looked in no not fin by pickle ball but I'm talking to the noise that's it's a a loud it's like tennis Ser Willam not pickle ball it makes noise that's been all on TV and neighborhoods tennis I was at The Acorn Fest and there was a pickle B pickle ball tournament going on I didn't hear anything scho just saying you go back and look at it and I know it's been it's been on the news and you know Condominiums and people Senor think I think much of that yeah pickle ball it's the noise it says it's been driving neighborhoods crazy so I'm just saying to go out and just you know yeah I know but it's been all on the news Google people playing it though yeah Google yeah Google no actually um I I do remember you bringing that up and I'll uh put the information back in the FI FYI um regarding decibel levels I believe a lot of it is originating from people put them in close like senior orientated communities the fact that we're putting it south of where our football field is that can work very well I'm just saying do our do dillig to say we assess this da da da we're not going to have a problem the court is going to be over here it's not going to exceed any noise level it's not going to violate anybody uh you know living conditions so to speak that's all yeah no I I got the literature it is I mean you want to go Google it it's been all on the news over the last on the last uh year 85 Deb so whatever you're not wrong like I said I I looked into it I pull the information included in the FYI after Friday okay but like I said I hate to put it there and then all of a sudden you got a neighbor complaining and then we have to address their complain and say hey we are in violation whatever and now you know we got to start it's some start over from scratch so let's do our bu wall H build a wall and use a noise barrier must be from the chering from people chering no it's it it makes a sound it makes a sound a loud 85 deible noise but most of the complaints come from quarreling that's what you say 85 DB and just there some normal conversations in 35 40 DB 90 DB require earplug so yeah so that's all that's good thank you thank you so much you're welcome and you pretty much addressed number four or you still talking about number four here um no uh six Bravo four goes along with three number three so if there's no questions regarding the concession stand that's kind of within the same scope of the project okay thank you thank you thanks Jason all right Charlie okay for item uh one it's uh board policy 7 colon 270 270 for revisions as you saw on your board packet it was highlighted in green basically this is just some additional language to include that allows the district to maintain a supply of medication a prescription for medication uh for asthma and those with the EP epinephrine injection so that was just there for you to take a look at later that's the epip pin yes correct okay how do that work do we have do we know students that may require we have a list of those students we do and I know this is a year or so ago the cost of these epip pins was extraordinar high so we keep someone stock right we keep them that's what thisy is asking us to do do you know what we're paying for uh I don't know roughly just nurse Kate that's to be outside ofit have nurse nurse Kate oh I knew I had she just we plan this she gave me the question to ask you know I don't come here for fun I'm here there's a reason uh so right now the we have um for the albuterol which is the asthma so this is to address the asthma and the um allergy medication okay so for just to preempt the question the alol which is the inhalers we have free P we have free was given to us through the um asthma allergy Foundation the Rescue Foundation has provided us with at least two inhalers so over 300 doses for every school so we already have that with disposable Chambers like all set ready to go M um gotcha and then um um for the epipens I am waiting for a shipment of epipens of the adult and the Junior from the epipens for school um through the EpiPen company so that's already done they've approved it I should be getting two doses of each for every building hopefully I just don't know when it is a very slow moving um I think I submitted it back in July and just got that it's processed it we'll let you know when it's shipped I got that notification in September and it's still apparently not shipped but it didn't matter because I can't do anything with it until you guys so I add this to the policy so it can sit there legally we can't do anything with it until it's in board policy so it should be free the barrier that we had in the past about having it has been lack of prescribers we didn't have anybody that would prescribe the standing order for epipens so I finally found one hopefully I can convince them to do one more so that'll give us another two years um and so that was the only barrier we ever had it is not abnormal most schools have undesignated medication so what is the cost for one of those pins uh in the world for like not prescription it's a few hundred for us and for most people it's free ah yeah okay it's just access to it and then insurance insurance okay yep all right thank you random aside yes love it does the high school have Naran yes all of our buildings have Naran and we actually have Naran available um for staff if they wanted it to keep on their person as well um our provider has been willing to give us whatever we needed so we've even opened it up to our staff at our yearly meetings or trainings that we meet with them at the beginning of the year that if they ever wanted to supply a Naran that we're happy to get that for them thank thank you okay anything else thank you n thank you that was actually great okay that's the that's for um what's the drug for overdose overdose yeah yeah opioid okay okay all right is that it with the policy yep and it's going to be for us to approve we'll have on next one next one next one okay all righty thank you got any old business the the only thing I just want to say is I saw that video I thought that was kind of kind of cool that we did a a drone and a video of homecoming I just like the whole Atmos the everything about it so I like the direction the district's going for homecoming trying to bring in um the past the present and hopefully the future so yeah and we are looking at uh we've been just using some contractors out there for various um videos I will be talking with you soon about trying to have a full-time videographer I've not wanted to do that but I think the direction we're going it would be helpful to have a full-time videographer on staff so they could be out there daily pushing out the videos that are going on you can see on the website it made such a difference you know it's in an interactive video uh you've got the aerial views and things like that so there's a lot of things that we can do with that and I'll be talking with you about that sooner than later but yeah I'm excited about that and especially for homecoming for next year yeah excellent any other old business new business hearing none we do have a reason to go into close session tonight and that's for the the purpose of the appointment employment compensation discipline performance or dismissal of specific employees can I have a motion to go into close Chester some moved move by Alex I second broll call please any questions com Miss s stumbris i Mr swales I miss r and i Mr gyos I Dr Hall I president Brown I okay so we should be in close session anywhere from 35 to 45 minutes and we will not take any action after that thank you public for joining us we are adjourned L yeah
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to 10:00 a.m. seniors will have a chance to meet with representatives from many colleges and universities as well as members of the armed services as they began to plan for their trans transitions to life after glts quarter 1 progress reports progress reports will be available in the F in the family and student portals today Tuesday o October 8th students and Par students and parents/guardians will receive an email letting them know progress reports have been published Reggie represent at methu Admissions and counseling staff Betsy Gomez and Ramon Cruz as well as student Yoli Torres were thrilled to represent the Reggie community at Mat day this past Saturday October 5th they were able to speak with many middle school students and families about all that GS has to offer and help them to learn about our admissions and enrollment process interact interact Club spet River cleanup on Saturday September 21st the interact Club cleaned up an impressive 8,000 lbs of trash from the spigot River in addition 300 needles were collected from the river congratulations to Mr SE and the inter interact club members the girl soccer team host Ed a successful car wash on Saturday September 28th thank you to teacher Mr Chris sier for coordinating this event in the spet river cleanup driver's education is returning to glts driver's education classes are available to all students who will be at least 15 and 9 months by October 22nd classes will run through November 21st and will take place after school from 2:45 to 515 p.m.
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and that will be held at the community center and I I normally don't do this but I will because it's part of my thought process we will be able to as part of this budget process really share with the board of finance and the board of edit why the budget looks different than it looked in 2006 or even in 1996 and give all the external factors that that make up that that that budget process so that is something that we definitely put as part of the process it's good for a board of Finance to also understand that as well as the the the board of education so I'll be asking Mr is Robins that we'll put that as part of our presentation I'm not sure and we probably should have that um by the time we do our forecast budget also um so I do want to let the board know that and the next uh regular scheduled board meeting will be held on Tuesday November 12th I'll take any questions out of the superintendent's office at this time any board member have a question for the superintendent okay hearing none we'll move to the assistant superintendent report Mr Bishop please might I'll be brief tonight uh Mrs cogins uh was able to share a little bit for us I want to thank you to to Lisa for bringing that up and share with everyone on uh September 13th The District in cooperation with the community received the distinction of being named a vision zero District by the Connecticut Department of Transportation this is due to the concerted and coordinated work of the district and our community in an effort to be able to promote safety uh this award was made possible by the collaboration of the school and District administration um uh Brandon Richard and James Mona who are two teachers at Canton High School for some of their work in developing a a bike pathway um bike technology pathway in partnership with Jan Tanner of benador bikes um and then also through work with our community members including those from bwalk hon uh the temporary traffic and Safety Committee and all of our neighbors so we're thrilled to be able to be recognized for doing that work uh I'm grateful for that uh recognition and then on uh uh September 24th we had an early release in support of teachers really focusing on using language to support and when necessary theas students making sure that we have an outstanding School culture and climate um it was work it was done in coordination and collaboration with our district culture and climate committee our Equity committee and our pts Department I want to say thank you to Amy GIC from CIS and Kelly d Martino from Cherry primary school and Mrs mle for her leadership and being able to help coordinate and make that day happen and then uh our upcoming professional day will'll be focusing on the data that we're receiving from our first universal screen that we provide for students this this uh fall any questions out of my office uh Mr Bishop can you give the board just a 30 second update on Cherry primary school and where we are in the building project please absolutely uh we have U we've met together as a team we're coming back together to be able to um prioritize the options that are aail a to us what we understand is that the board of Selectmen had commissioned the pmdc to move in a particular direction the working committee that had worked together to provide uh a potential solution um gave some additional information that's requiring us to take a step back and reevaluate further with our Board of Selectmen to be able to cast a new uh Vision going forward but the work continues um and is uh going to keep moving forward with uh the conversations with that group and eventually into our pmbc again anticipate as well thank you sir any questions from Mr Bishop we don't have any online okay thank you thank you Mr Bishop okay excellent the fun part the student report I'm sorry did I no she's she's after students like that no the fun part is students and then we get to [Music] business and you're a f part too some Maggie do you want to go first or how do you want to who wants to go first tonight I can start okay I'll be reporting on CIS so in the month of September CIS started recognizing students for Positive Choices by Hing up respectful responsible and Role Model Star cards Maggie can you just speak up a little bit cuz I'm getting old thank you uh CIS participated in start with below week does create a sense of inclusion and kindness C had its largest students Council this year with many ties in the race house representative the school held its first advisory meeting of the year and students created a hello brick that would be added to a start with Hello wall with the school Ela and special education teachers have their first PD session with Ela consultant F gold uh fifth graders went on the project oceanology field trip while a little chilly both groups had a great day uh sixth graders have their first uh their first of a two-part series with Empower leadership last Friday CIS got's first ever character car off each home room and preschool class will car or decorate their styrofoam pumpkin to be in likeness to their favorite book character and the students will vote on a favorite pumpkin in Halloween and the pto's annual prid night will be held on on Friday October 25th Board of Ed members are welcome feel free to be AC thank you thank you so uh CIS their their SCH government is uh they meeting they've had their meeting how often do they meet I didn't get that okay I was just wondering maybe you catch that for me Julia okay um I will be reporting on cherra um so in partnership with forti Transportation uh Mr amera and Mr Barnes engaged in a student lesson on bus safety um and this also involved visiting a parked bus that was in the parking lot so they were able to actually put into practice um on Friday October 4th CH held its second all school meeting of the year at this meeting they focused on the bare necessity um and they watched a video that the faers were involved in making and it was supposed to teach the younger grades what it means to be like respectful and to really uh kind of show the values and how to get like positive cards and at this point they have received over 400 positive cards as a school uh the second graders have been on a field trip to rber Nature Center uh where they're able to connect the science topics that they're learning in class the real life um and coming up uh the this month the kindergarteners will do their Halloween par to CHS and uh in the Middle School uh this year chook will be holding its Field Day in October and this will be a great opportunity to enjoy the fall and also to build connections and teamwork between uh students and teachers um and cheber has launched a new birthday book club um uh this birthday Book Club is where when it's your child's birthday you donate a book to the to gr uh library in their off excellent report thank you Lucas I suspect you're going to get high school yeah high school middle school and high school so for the high school we have our PSAT set up and practice day um this Thursday 10:10 and uh next I believe Thursday I not Thursday Tuesday 1016 106 we take the actual PSAT for PSAT 11 uh 10 and 89 uh which is also the middle school for 8th grade um soon uh Kent high school will be honored for winning the Michaels cup which is a sports honor the fall play will soon be taking place with hsal and tech prep well underway um the annual prisons concert is in development with the seniors selecting producers and working to pick a theme right now um currently us sport of EV Representatives districtwide are interviewing students about their goals for the year and soon in the high school we will have spirit week and the game day coming on upcoming Friday excellent excellent great great report so what's what's the mood out there right now we're through September and we're going talked over everybody kind of in the swing of things and yeah it's back to normal good well you guys are smiling so I you're representative of the school so I suspect everybody's smiling right okay well thank you for those reports any questions for the student Representatives okay thank you very much now we go to the other fun part this is Robin on uh the business managers report great thank you thank you good evening um tonight we um just going to talk about the September results Financial results for the district um we went um finance committee reviewed um all of these this the overall forecast for September is unfavorable $ 56,86282 188 special education is forecasted to be unfavorable 593 684 um which is NS after the 560 we had a little movement in Salan benefits that was positive we did have some uh to replace um hot water heater in C Middle High School um that was not budgeted um for so we'll be over a budget in that area and then again the special education over budget condition is due to having District uh transportation and tuition um um and let's see and those expenses will be offset by some forecasted revenues um for excess cost cost um were to come later on that um we did review some budget adjustments to for the month of um um September um to um reflect the allocation of the provision for salaries okay I'm GNA ask you a whole your questions because when we get to the finance report Mr Bush and M Robins will kind of give you an update on the uh Finance meeting today and then you can ask your questions there um okay we're of and running to uh C celebrates and our continuous Improvement plan updates by Mr depo and Dr Kidwell thank you for being here tonight we appreciate it any students here from the high school over here here [Music] so nice uh to be here tonight um and we thank the board for the opportunity to speak uh and celebrate some of the things going at the high school um Mr you you ask Lucas about how the school year is going I'd have to say it's quite busy uh busy on all levels stely with the teachers and certainly with the students we are up and running there's so many activities going on um and the weather's been been wonderful so so between Outdoor Sports and indoor activities we've uh we've just really uh been portal and hectic I think but also really in a positive way I think all students are highly involved tonight I'm going to be speaking specifically about four groups but in my mind uh it's really representative of um the school student body as a whole um in terms of the activities that happen in our school early in the year it's hard to celebrate a whole lot of things so this is sort of a hybrid of celebrating certain things but also informing the board of some fun things that are going on and some things to look forward to I'll also be speaking about my continuous Improvement plan and in that we talk about learning environment we talk about opportunities for students and when we talk about plan planning um and budgeting um we've often added cying positions to offer opportunities for students to be involved and I've always appreciated the board support on that and I think what we'll be hearing a little bit about tonight is students who take advantage of those opportunities but not just take advantage but invest in those opportunties to the point where they become full-fledged leaders and really more than ever tonight I think we're celebrating the leadership and the maturity of this group because not only are they involved in certain capacities but they lend themselves and Lead themselves or lead the Endeavors to the point where um you know they just top not the first group I would for those members of The Writing Center um please come forward by Dr Kidwell we have five members tonight four are present um I'd like you to introduce you to Kendo forsland Elizabeth pelen Ariana Schuman is not available tonight and nor the BGE uh most of you on the board were able to to uh hear a brief presentation on October 2nd where they spoke at length about their um commitment to supporting students one undering of our of our student population is um the ability to outreach in the community um Outreach uh through volunteerism and and through areas where they're committed to um certain elements of of um the schools and the broader Community this group in particular has taken their talents um to just simply support students every day in our school um but I really feel like they're their opportuni is a little bit unique as mentioned in in the presentation they take a course called The Writing Center um wrer Workshop wrer Workshop Writing Center Writing Center all right and within that um they essentially um are selected or or asked to be involved in nth grade and take the course during their 10th grade year and they learn all the ins and outs as um we discussed last week about how to support students in their writing we have many layers of support in writing but uh these folks act as peer coaches um to help um students in all elements of writing um they're um connected to ninth grade um teachers when when they're doing writing assignments and it progresses all the way up through um College um essay um writing as well and I also want to mention about this group you know this group is is is um willing to give up their time but they're highly invested I mean they athletes here members of the drama music productions as well so they're very busy during this uh school year but yet they find time to work with students during the week I would also you miss I didn't mention Miss mly who who's here to join us tonight miss mly is really the the think tank behind uh the course um we had a different element of how we supported student writing when she came to me about 8 years ago and said I think we have a better idea and she did uh the hard work and learned through Ukon about the program and and then brought brought the course back us than Anna and I know the stud directly from Anna um and have continued to to give so I I'd like to honor you tonight and thank you all of you for your support of of student growth here in our school and being role models for volunteers and in our community so I'd like to thank first kend Forman and off you can get your certificate from Dr [Applause] IDW Ariana Schuman [Applause] B all right you guys can start we're going to a picture in a moment those here represent Mr Depo if I could just say the board that was there at the CIP we were very impressed with the with the generosity of time and the kindness that you show to your fellow students in helping them in their writing development so it it was a very impressive presentation that you made to the board so thank you thank you so the second group I'd like to uh honor tonight are members of our Leadership Council the warrior Leadership Council who are also um preminent athletes in our school and you you Jo I'm sorry and um again not only are the athletes in our school but they certainly act as Role Models uh and their leadership um is above reproach as their leaders in in each of their Endeavors um I'd like to introduce them first individually and then talk about sort of the collective reason why they're here uh Nick Le better is here he's on a soccer team he wrestles he plays golf he's captain of the soccer team this year he was all all conference in golf last year L Conor plays field hockey presently she's also been involved in indor track and softball where she's all state in both field hockey and softball as an all and all conference in indor track she broke the school record last year for shotbook and um she'll probably shoot at it again this year uh she's the captain right now for the field hockey team Juliana you know her here as as a member of the Board of Education she also runs AC cross country in and outo track and she was the Captain for uh this cross country team this year she's all conference inor trap so you see um the breath of Athletics uh prominence that we have here but also the leadership that they bring forward this year as L just mentioned we were honored and we had been honored a little bit for the Michael scup award and I want to thank M church here or M Mrs her here who um helped also develop that it's a combination of things that we do behind the scenes such was organization um it's also um over ly as part of our community for our sportsmanship both um in the stands and what we do in our community and then also on the field above that uh we want a Fred ball summer Sports of sports specifically this year for some of the things that these students help run I'd like to just just um it's about a 90 second video but I think it's worth watching sure here if you would mind just running that that kind of talks about why we want us to work for that's for for [Applause] So Yesterday members of the our Leadership Council um joined several other um High School um high schools throughout the state at um the cic leadership conference where we were um given our Michael cop and these three amongst others received the award the picture is there and so again I do believe you know as much as they are here for themselves they do represent um you know the greater good here on the athletic fields here at K high school they truly are sort of ambassadors for all the athletic teams where they represent themselves so thank you for all that you do uh individually um you know in all your accomplishments but also collectively for you do for the athletic teams thank you so much Nick um Juliana and so that Michael's cup Awards really distinguishes and separates Canton from the rest of the pack and what we do and when we look at a vision of canton's public schools and what a graduate looks like you know as I was looking at that video you've checked off three of the five boxes and we're just very impressed and thank you for all your hard work and your generosity and kindness uh to others so thank you Juliana Owen TR group Owen so you see a few familiar faces and a few new faces here um the triam is basically our our music um groups that support um music in terms of you know leadership uh Within the Music Department and U this group represents U basically leadership of that we have Owen who's the president who's also a member of our chamber singers and a future soloist and a drama leader we have Julie Adams a vice president who's also a tenor saxophone in the band and a choir and a chamber singers uh this is Shay Shaker and Shay is a secretary and she's a clarinet play the clet in the band she's a member of the concert prior and she's been in several of our uh future plays and musicals as well we you all know but he also plays a French horn in the band he's trumpet in a Jazz Ensemble and a Basse singer in the choir last year he was selected uh for the northern region band for the French war and he's going to audition again next month so we wish him luck there and this is Anna cop she's the historian she's also a member of the chamber singers uh she's a featured soloist in our choirs she's a drama club leader as well she's been several of our plays and musicals and she was also selected last year for the northern region course and again heading to another audition next month so we certainly wish you well Anna um verying to what I said uh about the athletic department um this group is is supremely talented uh in their own right um they give back to their um fellow um members uh in the band andic choire with their two religion leadership um they um supported um the greater good of um the Outreach that's going on right now in the music program and I actually want them to talk a little bit about some of the Endeavors that they've just recently accomplished and that they will be um you'll be hearing more about soon so I'm not sure we going to speak but we do have a couple sides to work for I do it but I don't know the script um basically we there was a night that was at the community center um that invited anyone who was in band singers um actors really anyone who may have to audition for entering into college or a specific field that they're looking at um and I believe Yukon was there it was represent from Yukon I believe art and maybe another College um pictures and they just kind of gave like tips about you know whenn auditioning and stuff like that and very important just giving information about different things that you might need to appes auditions and stuff all right I will talk about the hearts trip to New York City which occurred on September 28th it was a very fun day out in the big city where we started by going to the Museum of Modern Art for a couple of hours before going to see the Broadway show Hades town the ma performance where we then ended the day at the restaurant bubble gum right in Time Square and it was a great day for everyone that went great memories to celebrate the Arts uh this is so upcoming soon we have the first Coffee House of the Year this is the fall Coffee House basic basically if you guys don't know coffee house is an open performance night where anybody can sign up um we encourage it to be uh performances that involve the Arts so it could be a solo singer it could be a small band that you do on the side or it could be some kind of other performance like maybe a d like you uh do dance outside of school and you'd like to take that in like a lyrical performance um coffee house is open and it's a great way for students to go and express themselves uh basically just go out have fun everyone can show up I believe uh to next Friday not this October 18th uh that Friday at uh 7:00 p.m.
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and as chair I will call this meeting adjourned thank you everyone and um appreciate the discussion and have a great evening thanks for thanks for bearing with my technical stuff appreciate yall
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the 5:30 Athletics bus will be available if needed the total cost of the program is $825 all of eligible students are encouraged to participate September athletes of the month G Gustavo far farella varsity football Anderson Ortiz JB football Ethan D rusher freshman football M mathas young freshman football Diana Rosa JB go Ashley qua JB go Jayla fanz JB Che and camil varsity soccer GTS spirit week and homecoming plans are underway for our annual homecoming celebrations including Spirit Week running from Monday October 21st through Friday October 25th more information on Spirit Week themes to come soon Friday October 25th will be a fun and actionpack day with a pep rally being planned for all students during the school day followed by our homecoming football game at 5:00 p.m. and a homecoming dance at 7 p.m.
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I believe and the uh High School cath okay so um this group again um does a wonderful job representing the music department and all that they do again in house but also the public as well and you'll be hearing more about everything that the department does throughout the years this was again to celebrate the work that they've done and that they will be doing so congratul again Owen Juliana sh thank you so much so so again your words I have to tell you I do recognize some of you without your makeup from the plays but but but the plays the plays are outstanding the musicians are unbelievable the singing that goes on we we have such a talented music and arts program and you are the of it so just a wonderful job we're looking forward to the spring play that's usually a musical right I think so I don't know if that's been selected you don't have to reveal anything yet but uh we we all try to get to to all the different uh events so thank you for your time great good job right so uh that was a wonderful segue I think for the final group come on up the final group going here and um so you know there is a bit of a crossover and a blending of this group but these are the our drama club officers that I wanted you to meet um this is collaborative group that works to support the director Mrs Taylor to plan dat all the dama club meetings and in general these theater Productions that you were just referring to so it's important that that um you see these some are in front of the stage some are behind the stage but uh James Barker who's our senior recently was a in the Adam family last year um he'll be the lead in in Big Rock City at Candy Mountain this year Corgan pendel is a senior as well and she's with our Tech representative last year she was the assistant stage manager and this year she's looking to be the lead stage manager um we met already but and also is is in a drama club and she recently as we said uh was hug The Adams Family it should be uh Unice in big rock at Cy Mountain a junior U and again he was in ad family as well um and he will be performing this in this play um and we also have Claire CL Dr Who a sophomore um and again in the family it will be in big rock uh at Cy M I mentioned that a few times as you can see that we have uh our play opening November 7th so it'll be that weekend the 7th 8th and 9th and maybe James or any else can tell for a little bit about the play yeah of course I would be happy to uh so briefly mentioned uh the play that we are putting on uh this fall is Big Rocket candy mountain now I wouldn't be surprised if none of you have heard of this before it is incredibly nich but I feel that you will find it to be very very fun it is extremely funny it is cheesy and all the right ways and it is a Rance a little uh but I don't want to give too much away but I will give a basic synopsis of a little bit of I want to keep it short of sweet essentially a big businessman is trying to make it on his own he is not doing well uh so he sees the public as a good investment to see business opportunities to see what they can offer and a hiy comes to him and says I got an idea for you and then a grand adventure of music and love and chaos and a lot of death uh happens and it is all beautifully portrayed and I highly recommend you all see it now that is the synopsis of what the show itself is now if I may I want to give it over to uh Claire and Anna to tell you a little bit about what the drama club officers play uh the sort of roles that we do and what we hold the power that we hold in the drama so a lot of what we do is um gather the group together like we all meet up in the auditorium for reversals 3 days a week and so we kind of just say hey let's all get up on the stage we're going to do a warmup and we do a Qui game before M gets in we organize we just organize drun things and we do a lot of just getting the people to know each other and getting the for people familiar with not just the people in the club but the things we do in the club as a whole whenever people split up into smaller groups dur certain scenes drama Hub leaders will uh take the lead and make sure people stay on track uh we will generally recommend good warm-ups and team building activities to help the cast get closer and uh generally our leaders and people to look for for advice and Direction during all of the shows how many people in the drama clook I would say around 2530 that's fantastic you know what you do is not just for the district or the school but our community just Embraces this what you do people look forward to seeing the talents and the things that you do so thank you for the behind the scenes and for the in front of the scenes that you all do and James I I I I didn't recognize you in the beginning until you spoke your voice your voice is very distinct it's a beautiful voice by the way and you're going to have a career somewhere using that voice I'm sure here yeah so again uh congratulations to James Coran Anna and Decker and Claire all you do to support Dr program thank you so much [Applause] so the whole board pictur why memb [Applause] [Music] [Applause] thank you all thanks guys [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] okay if we can uh bring it [Music] back and Dr K going to take us to a brief presentation or of the continuous Improvement so um thank you for a few more minutes um to really just give you an overview of the CIP or our continu Improvement plan I did speak with several members of the Board of Education October 2nd you go compl in detail I'm happy to answer any questions I know all the it's part of the board packet I just a couple mentions in terms of the continuous Improvement plan at the high school I hope you know first and foremost that it is exactly the same as last year uh in terms of of the big picture goals um as I mentioned the other day um we had need some strong inroads in several of the goals and the plans within the goals have been effective um and many of them were were starting to emerge so we maintained uh several elements of the goals so you should see about 75 to 80% uh duplicity from from the previous year um there are a few further elements and as I handed out just a quick one pager in Blue uh I mentioned uh I kind of pulled out what might be different from the year before um so again uh you're well aware of the goals student growth and achievement Partnerships and Community engagement Financial sustainability learning environment belonging embracing equity and Workforce Development um and before I dive into the goals you know I do believe that within each of the goals you know we do have um some results that we're we're trying to uh work towards we also have um really strong elements the goals in terms of what administration uh does what and what the teachers do to support uh the process within the goals and I think that's the most important key that the process in the action steps are really sort of um help bring uh these goals forward um some you can you know pinpoint a number or a measure and others um you know we look forward to just general growth in a particular area um I'm happy to answer any questions um either from the one major or from the um the CIP itself um um board members any any questions you know I I will say that so impressed that day that we spent with with you and uh the students from the uh wri Workshop uh but the improvements have been significant across the board and uh you've made great Headway and tremendous progress and I think it's you know based on the leadership that we have and and the way that the staff has come come together and collaborated to make that all happen so um I know that day we were very impressed with some of the uh some of the information that you provided uh I know you're getting the condensed version but if you have any questions I think uh you know feel free to bring them to me or to Dr Gman and we can get those answered for you uh down the road okay anything else for a quick comment it was was really a wonderful morning uh I was said it that day that keeping the goals same and refining them makes so much sense uh because there sort of almost internal goals some of the areas you picked out uh and we only walked around for about 40 minutes uh but you picked up a sense of Engagement uh a sense of quiet work uh kids seem to sort of be enjoying school and you can't fake that you know that that just was imp permeated to walk around and stepping in the classroom so thank you it's great great day thank you okay we'll let you get home to dinner thank you so much for all your support our processes and forward to meeting you again thank you thanks for coming tonight thank you okay thr U thrill to have uh here tonight um to go over oh I'm sorry hang on one second we we I you know um is is the agenda is I want to get something out out um so that we can move it to to deal to to kind of handle things while we have our board attorney here so I'd like to have a motion that we move uh recommended actions consent agenda forward to this particular point we'll move through that pretty quickly and then we'll get to this meeting so move okay second thank you any any discussion on that you want to vote on them now yeah we're going to we're going to move it up we're going to take one by one vot on now okay so I have a first and second any other conversation questions all those in favor iOS sorry we're not voting on them now we're discussing no we're we're going to take the recommended actions from the consent agenda and we're going to vote right now we're V just mov the agenda yeah moving the [Music] agenda so again all those in favor do I have seven right thank you okay have have eight here have eight eight okay so eight of all right thank you H okay um so we start with consent agenda approval of the minutes of September 5 2024 uh and September 10th 2024 can I have a motion my motion thank so motion to C Board of Education approve the consent agenda thank you Cindy second thank you Jordan any any discussion all those in favor okay that's 80 thank you so you did the first one right so you had to do the approval of the audit it's It's all under the consent agenda all all three of those are under the consent agenda so so we'll take it we'll take it one at time approval of the audited U audited 2324 financials if we're given have a motion to approve that was given that last me right thank you Erica second thank you Jordan any questions on that all those in favor I 80 on that thank you and then the approval of the UN audited 2425 financials as of September 30th 2024 uh including July August and September thank you Felicia second thank you Erica any other questions all those in favor okay so that that Tak yeah going to do the trans talk about that appr that's what we just did July and a oh there's two sorry we did July and August we need to do sep I put them all together July yeah when I when I asked you a motion you did them all yep okay so now all right then we go to Anna Anna we're going to we're looking for information on the approval of the budget transfers for the fiscal year 2023 2024 terrific um this is something that we do um each year uh the board approves the budget during um the budget season in the previous year we finish out the year with some variances in each of the line items but because it wasn't approved budget um we do have to the board does have to authorize these adjustments in order for us to have a revised Budget on record so um again this is for the fiscal year that we've already reported on um the budget transfers are just a a separate document and topic okay I'll take a motion that we uh move cam Board of Education approve the budget transfers for fisc year 2023 2024 after I give the motion I open discussion requests motion thank you uh thank you Kim for a second appreciate that um open up for discussion anybody have any questions for Anna on this I mean this typically what we do on the transfers wean out okay all right all those in favor I oppos okay you know thank you very much okay uh now we're going to uh I just read okay so now I'll take a motion on uh the camp board of education approve revisions to policy 4021 prohibition of sex discrimination including sex based harassment Personnel such policy shall be considered for adoption at his second read at the next Board of Education meeting I'll take a motion oh thank you Jo second have a second please thank you s okay we have a first and second any discussion yeah this is a federally mandated U policy came up at the first policy meeting in September uh it's a little bit complicated and we felt that some additional information was necessary would be important for us to understand it completely uh so we had our board attorney come to the last policy meeting had a very very lengthy discussion about it where say Jordan and I asked a lot of questions over for about an hour period of time we had a fair amount of of input from the public as well uh and we recommended United members of committee there for first read tonight and I will leave our board attorney is here so we did we did uh ask the public that the public came forward I'm very appreciative of the questions that we get on this because I understand this policy is a little bit complicated uh but however um the questions that we received really had nothing to do with the policy they had more to do with the implementation so there's really nothing to further to discuss on the policy the questions were more based on implementation so I I have nothing to report on those on those particular questions any other questions from the board I do I have questions in regards to actual policy and how it's written okay so it just how it's written here in regards to the timelines so there there's a bunch Where the dates are brought up of 7 Days 5 days is that the only option that we have so let me give you an example Sarah just so you know exactly one talking about so this is series 5,000 so if we're looking at oh my God let me it's page nine that helps so this you know Onan we're talking about 4,000 right now 5,000 they're the same ex it's probably also still page eight um sorry yeah so page nine B and take meetings from the date of the written notice Prov into subsection 3.3a the parties will have 30 school days to reach a resolution so that's just an example I guess my question is is that our only option um for most of them I don't want to say it's for all of them about going through but for most of them um the title 9 Federal Regulations say that you have you have to choose something that's reasonable um but there beyond that you do have flexibility for changing some of those exact time frames okay so like for instance we're filing a complaint on page 13 fining a complaint be filled within 30 school days of the alleged occurrence when you're saying school days I just want confirmation here let's say a a grievance needs to be filed of something that happened in May or June there a school day over the summer um so school days is defined on page six okay and defined means the day that school is in session and designated on the calendar posted on the district's website and its discretion and then equitably appli and with proper notes to the parties the district may consider business days during the summer recess as school days is if such designation facilitates the pro resolution the okay so then it's the current has happened in let's say the 24 to 25 school year over the course of the summer it would need to be filed then it could be it would fall within we wouldn't need to wait until the fall the school days correct okay well I mean based on this definition that if the district May useit our business St during the summer recess I just wanted a clarification on that and then is our title n coordinator work year round outside of the school year so do she working through the the course of the summer 12 months 12 months yes no so how would we handle that so partly that in that case the if you look at school days if you don't have somebody being able to do a prom resolution and it doesn't sorry I lost the definition I go back and look the exact definition um if you don't if such designation does not facilitate the pr resolution because you don't have the the people to do it then you because part of it is too that you can't necessarily do an investigation if students aren't in the building depending on what the the issues are right you don't have students to talk to okay so that's it all together okay so is there room for us to say that this could be within 90 days just to cover the summer I guess I guess that's what I'm looking for is to make sure like where's the administrators are still in compliance but we're not asking the coordinator to come in over the summer we're asking students who might be traveling to do the actual full investigation is there en way in that actual time period so I think what we have decided in terms of put putting 30 days in there 30 school days is and the definition of school days is kind of giving you the discretion to use business days in the summer but you don't have to is because I would hesitate to expend expand it more because Title 9 says that you have to promptly resolve from L and so if you put [Music] 90 what I don't know school days business days whatever I think you run into the potential of being outside of that reasonably C time frame and so by having it as 30 days 30 school days in in most instances that's going to account for it and in those certain instances where we don't have the staff or we don't have the resources to do a promt resolution you have the flexibility there to um to not be not in comp Sarah you talking regulations or the policy that's in the yeah so this conversation is the regulations not policy correct the policy yeah the policy is the first four pages corre cor and that's implementation correct okay all right that was really my biggest one is I just wanted to make sure that we would still be I guess the regulations even if it something happens let's say the last day of school and there needs to be an investing grievance investigation process and we don't have our Title 9 coordinator for those whatever 12 weeks okay so you're saying that that would be covered okay that was really the biggest piece that I wanted clarification on and then why is there no difference between the students and the Personnel the right like I read through this in are basically like copy and paste there is no difference and that's intentional corre okay okay so I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything okay um I think oh one other question that I had uh and this is my last one I believe is um I believe that there oh so if I read in the stud or in the Personnel it says and this might be the regulations again so it might be out of line with the policy here but it says if um an expulsion needed to happen so there could be like a prompt expulsion that would have to have to happen with a student but would we still use the word expulsion in regards to an employee board um I'm not sure exactly okay let me see if I can find that exact page and it it's past page four so again might be out of questioning I guess but okay so it's page 18 and letter e it says if and this is in the Personnel so if expulsion is recommended reers student respond to the board for expulsion proceedings pursuant to Connecticut law but I didn't see anything of with Personnel if they're found to be guilty of whatever this is and they need to be terminated I'm just looking to make sure I so it's remedies and disciplinary sanctions yeah so if you look at the okay um possible sanctions being included but are not limited to discipline up to an including expulsion for students and termination ofemployment okay I I'm trying to read all of the a lot and I'm not an attorney so okay all right thank you that's all I have for questions that thank you okay we have a first and a second close discussion all those in favor all those in favor for what motion okay moving it from first reading to Second did you go please yes8 thank you okay now um I need a motion that the C Board of Education approves revisions to policy 5030 prohibition of sex discrimination including sex bias harassment students and such policy shall be considered for ad option at a second read at the next Board of Education meeting we have a first thank you Felicia second thank you Erica discussion hearing none all those in favor iOS he up okay thank you very much and the final uh motion tonight move that the camp board of education approve the homework policy 6154 I have Mr uh shy uh speak to that in a second can I have a first Mr Shyer second Cindy thank you very much discussion Mr sh just on it was uh somewhere in this gigantic folder it's one line added recognize when the policy was written it was a seven period day the new policy is an 8 period day with two days of of uh long extended periods so it allows uh teachers to give homework on Thursday or Friday so that not help me out here one line it's it's page two homework may only be assigned on it it changes from Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday um and it's simply to homework may be assigned on the days in which the classes are session this classes don't meet us today that was my okay any other questions on there I do have one question are we allowed to approve it because this is just because it's an amendment because don't we have to do a SE any policy change we are you could you could choose to to approve it on one read yeah it's it's the C Board of Education approve the H policy system and that this if you remember that the policy committee though will be discussing homework in general General at a future poliy meeting this was just a a quick change that was actually brought to um the the Board of Education several years ago to make this change but to let the public know because it came up at policy committee meeting tonight the policy committee is going to look at uh H more which just looking at the technology committee and the bylaws uh right now and this will be a future agenda item so this is just to move basically practice at High School just really because of the BL class correct so we have a first and second are of the conversation questions hearing none all those in favor I oppos 80 okay thank you very much thank you sir thank you so much all right now it's my pleasure to introduce mrle who's here tonight to give us an update on uh special education and the Thrive program so can I just uh jump in before Mrs M goes there's been um some questions from the the Board of Education just to provide an update on tuition and programming which aligns very well with this's continu Improvement plan so there was some specific questions related to that and we'll also be asking Mrs mle to make this same presentation when we go to the board of Finance in November it it it goes a little bit into uh the the public common question that we've received today regarding budget one of the major shifts that has changed in 10 years is special education that far out seeds the inflation rate and Mrs I'm mle will talk about it so we're very fortunate to have mle us me uh so good evening everyone uh I appreciate the opportunity uh to provide you all with the tuition and programs um and as Dr grman um so eloquently stated and you actually stole a little bit of my intro of this presentation is directly aligned to board World 3 which is financial sustainability and efficient operations which is directly connected to my continuous Improvement plan and the continuous Improvement plans of all the administrators in the district uh I want to begin with two things one programming for students with disabilities is incredibly complex um and there are multiple variables that are constantly in play and when we um anticipate our budgets at the very beginning of the year uh it's virtually impossible to anticipate all the possible changes um in programming or movein with students and that's why you often see um big swings in the in the special education tuition and transportation lines I also want to take this opportunity um to celebrate uh what we do as a department in collaboration um with our families our students our outside providers um we do not work in isolation we are a team uh I'm incredibly proud of everyone from our secretaries to our par Educators our jenet and specialed teachers and administrators and all of your support here at the board um we could not do the work that do for students about quers um so with that I will jump in and begin so screen's a little small my vision at this hour is not ideal so I'm going to peek up my notes a little bit um but you'll see on this slide over the three years I wanted to share um a couple of points here one is that you're going to notice that the uh K12 all student count in the state um is decreasing but you'll also notice that the prevalence rate in special education continues to rise at the state level and in Canton um and one example of this is um in the area of emotional disability uh that has G up in the Last 5 Years 10% in Canon so 5 years ago we were at 24% and now in that category or 34% and it's our fastest rising identification category in this District um so coming in and um thinking about how to advance our programming through Services through briide is a key step in addressing those student needs so this slide uh my intent here is to give you an example of the wide range of variability within costs in special education when I mentioned it's incredible complex on the high end if you have a student who requires wrap around behavioral supports therapeutic uh possibly locked facility you're going to be on the higher end of the tuition well over 200,000 uh our average based tuition rate is around 100,000 that's not accounting for specialized transportation and the low end would be services that happen above and beyond the academic school year think extended school year um to during additional summer therapy that go above and beyond do during our regular course of year you say the transportation a little okay so the also the average cost for transfer is $44,000 annually per student per student exp what that is so that's uh that's the rate caught so many times students who are in an out of District placement uh may require solo transportation for uh different reasons does that include if a nurse is onic reason it could be a medical reason but it could be for a monitor could be the need to just add an individual run if the student is placed at a school that we don't have other schools um that we can ride share with so every time we have to add a run to a different school it's an additional $44,000 here I answer your question but you also need to understand that the the tuition cost that is not regulated by the state of concut it's not regulated so that is talk right now within State legislative bodies that superintendents have gone to our representatives to ask for regulations to regulate the the increase that schools can to can charge so for example Barber does a great job with and says 3 to 4% going back to inflation of what is typical 3 to 4% schools can say well you know what it's going to be more like 9% so if we budget at 3% which is responsible growth and sometimes far they budget 4% I'm like no go three and half because I'll split the middle with you because it should be three but you'll get a bill it's a 9% increase it's not regulated right so why don't we just pick another place then Barbara why don't we pick another place I know the answer but I because uh schools are there's a it's complicated there are many reasons one is that uh we are limited in our options for highly therapeutic programming in the state of Connecticut um and the other is we are faced with a situation now where the weight list to get into some programs as well over a year and a half um so if we have students that require a therapeutic placement sometimes we're looking at transferring them close to an hour to get them the supports and services they need um so we don't have a lot of options they really have a monopoly and they're privately run and funded they have their own boards um and I've experienced uh tuition increases of close to 11% this year in some of our facilities which is just sticker sha right so this next slide gives an overview of actual expenses for out of District students this particular year um so it's took it's a great care to make sure that this uh data is anonymous um so it's not tied to a specific student um that I would reference but you can see here the base tuition for student a is 205,000 uh when you factor in the alart services for OTP speech behavior um that's an additional almost 8500 Transportation if the requireed monitor is above that 44,000 so in this case we're at 54,000 so we're at a grand total of 268 uh for one student um so you can see here that the swing is fast you look at students they have a base tuition of almost 73,000 they don't have related Services um they they have a parent transport or situation um and and that's the cost so so the board understands $268,000 in the year 2024 was now $268,000 in 2004 it could have been 50,000 2004 it's just that is the the how quickly things have changed when something is unregulated next slide um so there was a question about what were there any documented savings from our IND District programs um and these are savings uh from the last fiscal year uh so I'll draw your attention to what was thought in the tuition budgeted section um so just going by student and we budgeted 11 19,700 um with our Thrive program we were able to bring uh couple students back to District um in this case um we had a a tuition savings coming back mid year of almost 61,000 and we also had some Transportation Savings of 24,79330 594 um and what I want to point out that's most important is those savings could then be reinvested into our district programming to make those programs that much stronger so um we build to S practices we have extra resources available to us for able to then reinvest those saes back into our program l a good question um I know like on this other one it's student adnc is this school ADC meaning different schools within the district so different schools I the next two slides down the operational clost to run Pride program and our learning lab program in District as you know both of those programs we offer districtwide um and the Thrive program in total cost see where the numbers are coming from uh and again I'll say this reflects our commitment to offering high quality in District programming programming and services in order for Thrive to thrive as a program it needs to have behavioral support and therapeutic support so it requires Social Work support embedded and behavior consultants and behavior text to support individual student needs then turn to the learning lab program that program operationally costs 870,000 um in the swing here the difference is most of the students in our learning lab programs require either a one toone par educator support or a two to1 support um so there's a higher we have I believe 18 par Educators supporting that program are they fully staffed are they fully staffed we are much Clos CL ER to being fully staed than we were last year at this time we still have about four par educator positions that need to be filled so this slide is I think it's my favorite slide of the presentation I'm going to point out the key to you um and try to break this down and explain where it's coming from so so canton's um PP is our per people expenditure so it costs on average $1,575 per student to educate a student in C Public Schools when you require an out of District placement it's four and a half times that amount so that's where we get per people amount of 88,000 for a special education student that needs outp and that's just their tuition when you factor in the average cost of Transportation I came up with an out of District base cost of 132,000 per student now in the program potentially this is all hypothetical but potentially we have 18 students in five if those 18 students required an out of District placement that would cost over $2 million when you factor in the operational cost of $551,000 you have a potential Savings of 1.8 it's very tiny print so I'm not going to the exact number uh and then in learning lab if you do the same exercise you have a potential Savings of 1.7 does everybody understand that because that that that's a big chart so what Barber's saying is that drive costs $551,000 to to run if we didn't have Thrive the potential of those students being outplaced would be a total of $2.3 million right by us having dropped 551 th000 1.8 is savings that we are generating from this another example of why our budget looks different than it did that's 51,000 that's operational and the same thing with learning lab so right there if you total it all together by my simple math it's approximately two 2.6 Barbara of six if we had to outplay children so investing in our industri programming and making that as strong as possible is a key step to maintaining that fiscal responsibility that we talked about in our board goal next slide so this slide is about XO plus and it's very very general anybody has specific questions about exit plus i''d be happy to follow up with you um outside of this meeting if need be um but I wanted to point out that in 2324 we received % so that's a significant hit and what this cost refers to is anything above and beyond that threshold of $888,000 so the district has to eat the cost of the $888,000 no matter what if your cost is if it's a $100,000 outplacement you get 70.5% of what's left of that let's just say it's 20 grand you get 70.5% left of that um so it it helps but you know we're advocating strongly directors in the state superintendence to fully fund excess cost it has yet to be fully funded Barber what's the reason for the discrepancy if the state said 88 yeah I appreciate that question so I asked the same question to uh the state department and it was explained to me that what they do is they annually they look at all of the school districts in the state of Connecticut and based on the level of need in um some of our larger districts uh they have to re reallocate the amount of funding that's available um So based on that redist redistribution provided with us yeah answer so so I intend to invite our state representative state senator to the board of Finance meeting a so they can hear our financial report and B I think Barb's report was so so enlightening that they need to hear this also so I hope they can make it but I'm going to get on the phone tomorrow and invite them both welcome that conversation I know so [Music] I if it cost $100,000 to send student out place you subtract the 20 that should have cost you subtract it 88,000 on that 100 okay that's your thresh four and a half times per people whatever is left you get 70 and half% of that that's question just to follow off with that so the 19,0 575 does that include uh specialized services or No like is is that so that's what it cost to educate with nothing extra so the the state does a Formula based upon and help me out because this is complicated the state does a Formula that generates looks at your tax Bas how much your budget is how much um your town could afford and then they come up with your per pup expenditure that's what it comes so it takes out the special education takes out the out of District um special education cost okay so this would include prog 19,000 I would I would say that that's the average amount for a general education student and then a student that requires special education related Services they're above and beyond what they get during the school day there would be additional cost to educating even there there's such a thing as a high cost IND District student that would go above and beyond the 19,000 so it just depends on the student and their their IEP needs totally understand that but I I guess what I'm a little bit confused about is the actual calculation of that number and it sounds like so any student within the fry program would be attributing to this okay okay so these are key steps to mitigate high costs um the first being investing in programs like learning lab and pride um keeping our students in their home District where we set the standard for our rigorous high quality expectations for all Learners um is key and we're training our staff and we're building our capacity um so when I think about budget forecasting um I think about what needs do we have in our student population and where do we need to invest in training supports and resources to make sure that our programs are um align to best practices and that we're ensuring faith for each and every one so fa is a free and appropriate public education and all special education students are G students first they're entitled to that um investing in District Services goes right in line so that's looking at recognizing the need um when I joined the district a couple years ago that we needed behavioral consultants and behavior Texs to support some of the emotional regulation needs that we were seeing in our Learners um we've successfully built Partnerships with Quantum behavior um to ensure that we have Consultants um meeting with our programs regularly and also with our PBS teams regularly our school-based teams meet and we consult on individual student needs and put together plans um also I mentioned budget forecasting leveraging our grants so every year I write uh the idea Grant which is the grant that um helps us supplement the cost of Services um and we try to we work very very hard to be incredibly thoughtful around um programming and planning for what our needs are through that and we're always monitoring these programs ride is new it's still in its ady stages it's only been around for a little bit so we are still learning as a team and coming together in our meetings to to think about what we need to do to continue to make that program strong and sustainable for many years to come we do the same with learning lab in our preschool programs um our structured literacy we have structured literacy staff in each of our schools to support students with thisa so it goes much further than Pride um we look at it for all of our programming in the district um and then lastly I just want to say that Community collaboration is so critical so we have um Partnerships um and shared services for example uh 18 to 22 program with Randy bear um is our program for students who require Services Beyond Canton High School from 18 to 22 and sharing the cost of that um helps mitigate what it would cost a small town like can to in to create their own transition program so we share those resources um we also have a partnership with c and behavior and they're running a hybrid Clinic um it's the first year of that program uh we have as you students who are participating it's incredibly successful they spend a portion of their time at the clinic and then they're with a on toone Behavior Tech who goes with them to school for the second portion of their day um and it's keeping them students here it's creative programming with Community Partners to make sure that we're continuing to meet those individual needs I just start talking about some of this yeah um so I will summarize but our 18 to 22 program um is key our Behavior text um embedding uh things like talk therapy with our social workers through Pride helps to enhance that program to make sure that we're giving opportunities um as a group of for students to work through areas of need such as etive functioning or emotional regulation um we are also exploring this year starting a home visit um protocol uh and the intent behind that is we have uh because of those needs with emotional regulation um and emotional disabilities that we're seeing in the district we are noting that we have students who are experiencing School avoidance um and we're looking for opportunities to re-engage and reconnect them with the learning process so that starts with those core relationships at home and making an effort um to do that Outreach and even if it doesn't work right way planting those seeds and eventually that that will um get our Learners re-engaged with school um and then uh lastly the um last piece that I want to mention I've had the opportunity I was invited to join the working group with um CPAC which is the contic parent Advocacy Center um around language equity and access so a law was passed this year um requiring um translators and interpreters and um an understanding of the parent multil language Bill of Rights um so we're working really hard to get the word out around that um and that parents are entitled to that we want them to be engaged in the PBT process um so encouraging that homeschool connection is is another wonderful partnership that we're incredibly proud of so as you can see we're working really super hard in PBS um but it's not in isolation it's in Partnership Mr Bishop grman Rob so it it takes some Village um I'm incredibly grateful and to the team in this district for all your support thank you bar great presentation I know one you kind of touched on this a little bit and I know the board of Finance was interested in this when we uh when we were talking about th and I know we in the infancy there was hope that maybe we you were talking a little bit about this we can expand and maybe grab other towns with with a more reasonable tuition than they they would get outside how far away you think we are from maybe getting something like that in place I think that every year that we build in stronger practices we get one step closer to that so I think if there are opportunities to explore that um even this year I would be H into it if an opportunity came I'll share with you uh another school district reached out to me today asking questions about what our learning lab program looks like and ask to come and visit the program um to get a sense of how we're supporting activities in daily living at the elementary level um so you never know we're talking as directors we're exploring and they may come to me and say hey I have a student that we're struggling the program for would you be open and those are kind of it happens organically um to start and then we can formalize the process but it be open to exploring that opportunity one one of the original Advocates of of Thrive one of our supporters Andrew La is here tonight he was one that you know they they saw the U they saw the possibilities and the opportunities and I think I think the board of Finance would say if there was a um additional seeing these numbers if there was an additional investment so that we can do something like that to allow you to to in and get there I think there would be um you're going to get question I'm sure appreciate that how about other board answer this and I miss that I apolog are was able to bring any aners back who were out place the numbers that you haven't had to out place is great but anybody who y so the earlier slide where I spoke of the 179,000 those were um three students that we brought back to District last year yep and I anticipate um at this time on forecasting that we're in the process of bringing two students back fantastic Kim just we wondered just like there surveys and formal feedback that they get at the end of the school year you know for all the schools do you have any process or getting feedback from the families speciic specifically involved in Thrive and then also the population of students that you service thank you for that question I appreciate it so I don't have a formal process um but we do have like PBT uh during PBT we have a opportunity for parent input around programming um so we take that as anecdotal data and information um to help gauge you know with how how our students are feeling about the program and our our parents and honestly I think as as our Learners get older we really want them to be able to communicate clearly around what's working for them and what's not so encouraging them to be part of the PBT conversation around their programming and what their needs are um is is critical it's essential feedback to help us go back and Provine our program thank you the only other question I have was the piloting home visits so that's new is there a certain percentage of students that are part of that we we are just in the meeting stages in exploring what a protocol would look like we have some students who are not coming to school and that's your that's a strategy you're using to thanks Kim other questions so who does the home business so we're developing that protocol I've been working very closely um with Francisco beers at crack um and the recommendation is that we have Behavioral Health person attend um with another adult that is that has a relationship with with the individual so that could be an administrator it could be a teacher um it could be um corre liaison it could be a lot of different people it really just depends who the right person is but we always care that person for safety reasons who go cars um care that that person with another individual that we can connection with any other questions that was just a great presentation a good warm up for you for the board of Finance meeting that's right thank you very much excellent good numbers thank thanks s for helping on that too yeah thank you okay fantastic all right so let's uh move to you know one one of the things that uh we talked about at the retreat was uh the board has been a little bit Tardy on this is is getting our strategic plan in place and the way we decided to uh to approach this is uh the superintendent has helped us develop um against our goals and priorities um what the Strategic plan should look like what our priorities should be over the long term tonight you have the first uh board goal and don't forget you saw it in Packer from Mr dep pipo the vision of a Canton graduate kind of you know is one of the lenses that we're looking this through but what I'd like to do tonight is take that first uh first Board of Education B of priorities for number one student growth and achievement and just go through to see if you have any thoughts or changes on a through I so I I think I'll take I that says align standards based curriculum instruction and assessment across all grade levels and service of the vision of The Graduate any questions yes so I have a question about the word align so there's there are different types of alignment we're talking about vertical alignment or horizontal alignment I think it would be both so when we say alignment it's broad enough to allow the administrators within their own continuous Improvement plans to say we're now going to be vertical in line with our ninth grade or we're trying to be for so it allows the flexibility so a line for a strategic plan would be broad so that's what well ask on that all right and just a reminder to the board the whole purpose of the Strategic plan is that when you're seeing the continuous Improvement plans they're going to be able to put by their goals they're exactly what Cindy just asked where if they put something in there say align standards within English vertically across they're going to be able to put board goal one a so we know exactly which one they're doing so you're actually sitting there when you're meeting at the schools or here to check off which part of our strategic plan did we had so thank for asking that actually Drew pipo did that in our last uh when we met with his continuous Improvement he actually aligned or he checked off which board goal that work so perfect good question B expand career in college Pathways to provide more opportunities for Future Ready cour work I have a question about that too so is that Future Ready like is that how that ised fure OPP for Future Ready y okay okay thank you see identify Trends and gaps in student achievement and to guideance structural adjustments um I had a question about that one too only because it reads a little bit like a like a typo that and in there so give us an example yeah give example give an example of what it should be identify Trends and gaps and studed achievement uh to guide take out you got that order so take out the hand okay Hannah's Hannah is our person that's charting this all out and then plotting remember this isn't final folks this is just kind of going through then y great D Implement draft uh Implement datadriven personalized learning for students to address individual academic needs and learning preferences put the word instruction in there somewhere I don't knows I feel like after personalized learning and instruction it's like personalized learning and instruction for students to address instruction so it would read Implement datadriven personalized learning and instruction for students instruction and learning yeah Implement data personalized instruction and learning instruction you say no a yeah Implement data personalized instruction and learn I like that we so much I like that that's good good suggestion establish regular feedback protocols with students and parents Guardians to ensure that they are informed about academic progress in areas for improvement that makes sense can I just ask a clarifying question there obviously I know like you said it's meant to be broad um but when you say feedback protocols with students like rubrics and with parents and Guardians it's like power school or or whatever like parent teacher conferences I mean it's that I think the whole thing needs to be looked out one of the things that we received from the the survey that we gave out last year to families it kept coming up of feedback providing more feedback so we have to analyze administrative team has to analyze what type of feedback families are looking for that's going to take some time and that's why there isn't direct answers to that question that we got we know we have to do better job providing feedback Pre K through2 saw that right you good F develop and expand Partnerships with local colleges universities and businesses to provide students with real world learning experiences I have I would add the word like Community I know there's the word businesses but like Community I don't want to say businesses again something with the community like you know preschool we have nursing homes we what about what about businesses and Community what if we said develop and expand Partnerships with local colleges universities businesses and community the organization and the community just overall and the community that's good you got that Hannah you don't have to AG no no it's a good good suggestion excellent that's what we're doing this for okay G train teachers in high leverage instructional strategies to promote deep understanding and Mastery of content I'll turn to our two teachers High Leverage What does that mean I don't know yeah so so there there is meta research on the impact or E efficacy of individual strategies there's some things that work really well and then there's some things that are nice that we may have held on to in the past that we like but they're not really doing enough to be able to drive student AG gen in terms of instructional strategies correct okay I I sometimes think that pairs is an essential teacher so I would say [Music] staff train staff yeah that's good good catch got that Hannah that is it is it teachers and staff or is it just sta yeah instructional strategy deep understanding you good Cindy what are you thinking through um well so the the teacher training and high leverage instructional strategies uh that promote deep understanding and M of content for students is that what that means yes okay we can for students I mean I don't know I don't want to be like the more we put students in there the better um that how about as John just said uh train staff and high leverage instructional strategies that promote deep understanding and Mastery of content John and supportive student learning and supportive student Lear very good that's awesome I I'll take Jordan's R in this you got that Hannah isy all right eight continue to explore international certificate based programs to expand students Global competency remind me what international and certificate programs are so there are a couple things that are out there there is the um like a World Language duel uh dual language uh certificate that's out there and part of it too is just looking for more those opportunities to Brad the perspective of of students beyond the C public schools there are some things Jo that are out there that haven't been even utilized within the the local area that we would be able to Divine Define and be able to lean into the idea of being Global Citizens would that include um John like the international travel that they do or it very well could and it's about being able to to state this is these are expectations that we have as a district or as a as a high school and experiences that we want students to be able to have and then we are able to say through our process we can certify you that's one way to be able to go about that um so I had a nups to move 1 H to five and to take 5G to one so sorry you say change the order uh no oh so taking from board B five y g which is ensure all students have access to Advanced coursework extracurricular activities and enrichment program move that to one there's a St that staff to GB that's work yeah so I know that we're only focusing on one but I'd like to move 5G so that from embracing Equity to student growth and achievement and then what would you move out of one I mean we don't have to move anything out of one but I also thought that 1H would fit better in four go five I I don't know if you agree but we talk about International exchanges Global a lot more in the embracing Equity so I thought that flip would make sense but I mean I was looking I have no problem if the board would want to move H in bringing that conversation when we get to board goal number five just to slide it over there we can put it in both spots right now folks uh um that that's not an issue there's a recommendation to move H to five we could keep it in um board goal number one right now slide it over to board goal number five because the administrators haven't even looked at board goal number five yet okay and then when we get to board goal number five come back to that one Jordan for G right so that's the one that I wanted to move to one though so should we talk about that one now sorry wait so I wanted to take 5G and move that to what well and that was the one you said Jordan it could exist both and both but it would have a different meaning because in five it's about this is about diversity correct equity and inclusion and in one we're talking um we're talking uh curriculum and instruction but okay I just think uring all students have access to foror extracurricular activities and enrichment programs is so G the theme of G and like I said the administrators haven't got here yet the theme in G is just access and access to make sure that students and staff have access no matter their their color their their gender that they have access to Advanced coursework extracurricular activities enrichment programs that one is not written based upon student achievement that's just based upon access student achievement may be a result of that but it was just written on access um the the inter the the letter age I I I can go I think the ministrators I think one administrator did say that that could go to board goal number five also and we wound up with in number one but I think it's worth since we're in writing form and we're going to come back I think there's been a question that I think we put H in board goal number one but Hannah let's throw it in board go number five also and then we can come back to when we nail it down does that make sense and then we can always come back um because we're going to remember this well I know I'll remember this we'll come back to letter G and when we get to board goal number five and then we'll have this conversation again does that make sense yeah it does I I I do think that agent addresses student growth and achievement but we can take a look at it okay uh I utilize contemporary Technologies to maximize instruction and support of Future Ready learning I don't know if I like the word contemporary Cutting Edge or I don't know contemp hard to be it's hard to be cutting edge in any school district contemporary is the stuff but you would expect it to be contemporary would you well and and what I would say too is as much as we want to be U Cutting Edge there there's there is a there is a leading bleeding edge that's a part of some kind of a given 21st century we're already in two and a half decades into well I I agree with you that I didn't have a that's just a that's a that's a buzz so you know if you just want to make it simple you could make the recommendation we leverage Technologies to maximize instruction I said how about relevant instead of contemporary utilize relevant technology how about [Music] leverage Technologies write theology specifically when they do continuous okay so how do you want to write it use I like relevant uze relevant Technologies relevant as in like well contemporary it's another way to say contary got a student um I just had to I just see fut [Music] missell go Maggie your dad's going to walk say question where does citizenship says Ure students are College and Career race where does citizenship and digital citizenship is it coming somewhere here or is it later on Joe that's a good question [Music] and the the carrot that I had there after Technologies would be something like in Associated practices to um in support of Future Ready learning so I was trying to think of that same that same perspective Joe uh when we were talking about technology like how are you ready to be able to not have it use you but you use it for good so I don't know if that Associated practices is the right way to be able to say it the idea of being Future Ready is kind of that concept of being able to use those things well and for good well I think digital citizenship and citizenship are pretty important and I think they ought to be specifically referenced up like maybe somewhere else would you think Future Ready learning and citizenship I don't know maybe learning environment aot no that needs to go somewhere I'm thinking about supporters like you know 21st century Global Citizens that shape of changing world not to Ste maybe just think about it why don't we uh how about current current can you ask your principl why don't you come back with us to un eye see if there's better way to write that next meeting when we take a look at the second one would that be all right because we're not voting on anything your principles might have a better but what it means to be a good of the United States is not important so and and that's what I'm wrestling in my head I'm wrestling in my head is that a continuous Improvement plan or is that within like broad enough grad like is it is it broad enough like to write digital citizenship and citizenship is it broad enough my head says it is broaden up right and that the the principles can drill down without within their continu play that is one that we got stuck in the mud when we met as administrators so so so Joe are you saying that citizenship piece is missing there is that just ask where is it where is it I could find so for sure yeah Compass yeah compassionate CZ where is it in the goals yeah so we'll we'll come back at the next meeting when we go over board goal number two a through that one's that one is partnership with Community engagement and that's actually a shorter one so we'll come back if that's all right to with I with it Rewritten and then we'll look at board goal number two administrators have not looked at go number two yet so what you have in the the book the draft book that I gave my gut says it will look different than what you have but you will get a copy like you did tonight one with all right thank you that that works fine all right thank you for that that was excellent input by the board and I I appreciate that very good so let's let's move to our standing committee reports I'll move to uh Mr Bush and Mrs Robbins for finding [Music] the um only other thing that we really discussed other than the finances uh was that we're going to be talking about uh ease for athletic events uh moving forward if we're charging students and or parents or adult residents for sporting EV by the basketball games charge for right now we will have anything else you want to add any questions for the committee okay let's go to policy Mr Shyer we did not discuss Title Nine tonight we did it the September 23th special meeting I've already filled you in on that we adopted the first read tonight uh we did have lengthy and I think really productive discussion than you Jordan John and who High School principal was there too about cell phone use technology use in school um preliminarily we seem to think the current policy just adopted last year is is good as it stands it's the regulations behind it uh that are yet to be determined especially through 12 and uh Ruth and Andor Drew are going to back to us hopefully in November with proposed regulations so we had to made some of good progress I thought it was a very good anything any questions for our policy we're looking at our bylaws too yeah they need to be refresh and then on to curriculum Mrs Hayes yeah so curriculum we met um in September and we just give you a couple of highlights we um heard the assistant superintendent monthly report um successfully on boarded 12 new certified staff members um we looked at our curricular legislative updates uh one of which will be implemented um second semester this year at the high school the personal finance management and financial literacy um class that is a requirement now and will count toward students stem credit requirements um and then we also looked at our Canton educator evaluation and growth plan and reviewed the state required amendments um to that which were fairly minor and then lastly we uh looked over the fall District standardized assessments and that was it our next meeting is going to be October 30th 9 to 11: a.m.
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we invite you all and all of our community members to support reggies during this exciting time of year thank you that this concludes our representative presentation thank you all for your time and attention thank you very much guys it's great to have the student report back uh hon it's especially good to see you you've come so far from when you started it's a pleasure to have you back thank you for coming thank you all Mr would you like to say something the kids I would I repeat that it's exciting to have you back at the school committee members you did a a meeting you did a great job and uh do you have any questions for the school committee members no do you do the school committee members have any questions for our students regarding their report well yep so I know it was last minute you put this together so you did you stay after school and work with somebody and helping you put this together yeah I I stayed after school to work on it all right thank you for that that was uh well done and and the uh slides were awesome appreciate your efforts and we look forward to seeing you at each School Committee Member this year thank [Applause] you all right the chair would like to recognize the principal came to visit us CH Jackson Mr Jackson is there anything you want to say to us or this is just checking up on us just coming to support my thank you Mr DeStefano cash balance report please sure cash balance report as of August 31st 2024 the account balance on July 31st was $677,500 we had deposits for the month of 8,852 56207 um we had actually two chapter 70s during the month of August uh because the July one uh was a couple days um late and so it arrived in August plus um the town assessments uh some of the Town assessments came in that's why we have such a large number uh of deposits in August which is actually good um uh we transferred 2 and5 million of that over to our mmdt for investment purposes uh we have a payroll three payroll amounts as you see listed um plus uh two warrant amounts um and the GL balance at uh August 31st is 3,800 12363 uh the bank balance is 5 million um corresponding bank balance on the same day is 5,714 1575 in our mmdt account we started with 4 million 5872 uh we had net uh deposit in the account from the op operations of Two and a of uh 2.5 million uh the interest for the month was $35,200 uh leaving a balance of 600 uh 6 mli 888,246 um with a total operating cash balance of 10 milon 680 47263 for the month thank you Mr dhano can I have a motion to accept the uh cash balance report motion to F all those in favor say I opposed moving on Consolidated cash is uh a packet and a revolving fund is a packet and there's also a packet in there with the budget report Miss Martell isn't here today is there any questions we can give the superintendent uh to bring to her about any of those thank you communication donations I don't see any articles I don't see any articles public participation we don't have any public participation we do however have Miss Chris Christa Gillis and uh William Boogle both administrative Deans uh assistant principal and administrative Dean uh from the safe office um thank you for coming you have some slides good evening everybody he guys you guys are well thank for coming um so we wanted to we asked to come back and talk a little bit about um some of our discipline procedures parent communication um so we put together a few slides and then we'll be open for questions um at the endk so our first slide is about our classroom procedures in regards to discipline so we uh work with the teachers the expectation for teachers is they establish clear and high standards for classroom Behavior they work with their students to create Norms in their classroom um and high expectations which is one of our core values at the start of the Year and that they hold those throughout the year um we ask them to guide and correct student Behavior as needed redirection we ask them that they communicate with the students caregiver um whether it's good or bad or to reach out let them know how their student is doing what help they might need or what struggles they might be having in the classroom we asked them to assign a teacher supervised detention if they feel that is necessary um we encourage that because it it it's all about creating relationships with that student so if you might be having a uh problem with the student in the classroom we ask them to have them after school and have a sit down and typically that relationship builds and behavior will uh improve if that does not work we then ask them to submit a formal discipline referral through too which will then be sent to the safe office um and then we ask them to collaborate with the safe office to try to strengthen the relationships with both the students and their families all right so after issues in the classroom evolve throughout the year uh we are primarily there to support the classroom teacher support the student students and their learning and maintaining them in the classroom during that time uh we have a series like our Protocols of what we do and once the teachers have exhausted all of their resources in the classroom to control discipline in most cases um we're there for their support um typically discipline referrals come to us in the form of a Aspen referral uh it's our our student database um Miss Gillis and I um and Miss Keys who actually works with a freshman primarily uh we we we'll uh shuffle through those those referrals every day so in the morning um our day usually starts you know answering emails then we get to our referrals uh referrals that have come in the day before um sometimes throughout the day we'll get the referral and we'll be able to handle it right then and there uh but when we do this the the most important thing is we have to figure out what the needs are so we have to start by calling a student down if we get a referral sometimes a student is sent out of class to us and we'll we'll handle it that way as well but as you can imagine you know it starts off with us having to collect this information uh typically the students the first one to respond to us when we get a written referral um so when we bring them into our office individually we're talking to them and um Miss Gillis and I and Miss keys are usually at in a position where we sometimes are meeting the student for the first time so it's very important for us to start to develop that relationship from the from the getup um our time is spent interacting with that student um you're not just coming at them for a discipline referral because we can't have a negative uh beginning to our relationship so a lot of times we're just introducing ourselves talking to them a bit and then that's when we'll get to that referral um they vary you know from every anything from you know being late to class to uh something major where they're really disrupting the entire learning process uh hearing the student is very important for us um understanding that we're we're not just getting them in our office to assign them a discipline and sending them back we have have to actually figure out what the problem is and then go through some steps a series of steps to try to fix it to solve the problem for everybody so uh after we do talk to the student there's some cut and dry cases of kid kid a student is showing up consistently late to class and the teacher has tried everything that's where we come in for support um sometimes it's just a conversation with the student and they really could get to it um sometimes we're calling home after that a lot lot of times we have to assign a detention um and when we do that's us holding the student accountable the discussion becomes part of like we don't want to just hold the student accountable every time because they're not learning the process they're not learning to hold themselves accountable that's the main goal uh at that point if there is any confusion if the written referral is not 100% clear Miss Gillis and I often find ourselves going going back to the teacher just to clarify um but a lot of times the steps already happening um for example I'll call a student in I don't get the full picture um I'm getting one side of the story and then I'm not really getting all the information from the teacher so I I'll I'll put it on hold for the time being and usually follow up later in the day after I had an opportunity to go and talk to that teacher and find out maybe what is the gist of the matter what what is it that is causing this issue is there an underlying issue that goes beyond just a having a bad day um students have bad days just like all of us so we're considering all of that um at that point having those discussion collecting that information and again sometimes it's very simple like a tardy to class but often times it goes a little beyond that um we have resources at our disposable at our disposal including uh school resource officer a school resource officer we have a school adjustment counselor in our office um we have our parent liaison uh sometimes the the student is on an IEP or a 504 so they'll have a liaison that's assigned to them as well so depending on the situation we may call a meeting together with a group of those individuals to discuss it um and a lot of times we're we're pulling the parent in at that point as well um I it it really is dependent upon the situation but that process could be kind of cumbersome because we're not in our office waiting for students to show up all day we're about we're out in the hall we're covering lunch duty we're checking in on classes we're going through the shops um often times I find myself at the beginning of the day looking at my emails and my referrals and then making a list for myself so I could actually circumvent the building and check in to see what's going on not only am I checking in with the current issues that we have but I'm also finding myself following up with issues that may have existed the week before once the students going from shop to academics and then they have an opportunity to go back into where they had an issue I could follow up and find out sometimes seeing it for myself and seeing the interactions that are going on in the classroom um really are the gist what we're doing is we're trying to bring everybody together we're helping the teachers to do their jobs we're helping the teachers to create those relationships a lot of times with discipline problems the the there's two sides right there's there's a teacher side and the student side and you know it just gets separated and there's no time or place for them to actually solve it while a teacher is teaching class they really want to be able to get to the rest of the class so without letting things just simmer uh we we have to get creative in our design and how we we help to solve these problems but over the over the course of a day a couple days um sometimes weeks you know we're helping to build those relationships we're helping to uh helping the the teachers have that voice that they need to really deliver those lessons to students not just in their academic or shop career areas but also building the whole child building them from you know their their social skills building their their employability skills and we're doing a lot of that throughout the day and the days they're not scripted they're not scheduled um you could look at our schedule yes sure we have meetings throughout the day and we have to juggle those meetings and our duties such as lunch duty to actually give us the most time possible to to use these opportunities to build the relationships and sometimes to uh deliver some type of consequence so I think I cover we both covered a lot of this but um as you can see we we've put up a series of uh steps that I think are important in in developing discipline and successfully uh navigating what we have to do in our office and throughout the school uh most of it stuff we've already covered a lot of it centers around our core values um they're they're intricate to what we need to do here we believe in them and we're forever like reminding students that you know what you are making mistakes but those mistakes are actually great opportunities to learn um that's usually the last thing I tell a student you know make sure you learn from this so that it doesn't repeat and uh it's really uh again it's never never no day gets boring they're all pretty exciting I think we're just going to open up for any questions or comments um anybody have any questions Mr Mercedes how um how successful what's the the um successful rating you have for the the planning that you have for um for the students on on the um on the behavior I mean on the um on the procedure how what is your successful rate on that on the it sounds great yeah if it's you know on paper I mean on the day today obviously you guys go through it but how successful you guys are being on this because if if if it is like this I like it I mean I I I came to school and I had my my issues with with teachers and sometime because you're the student you're not really being listened to and and it seems to be you guys are doing both and getting to the parents and all that stuff having these meetings it kind of sounds great but what is your successful rate on on on the dayto day so uh without having the raw data in front of us um I I could speak to like my experiences here and and and I mean this is my 10th year in this building um I previously in another District had a lot of experience doing this having discipline not only in the classroom as a teacher but also as an administrator uh we try to collect our data and provide um you know what the infractions are what the actions are it could be read in a number of different ways when you talk about building relationships and being successful um at at the the point when we're dealing with students um we we don't stop if there's still issues we don't stop when a student goes back to class and the there there hasn't been a resolution um that's as I spoke previously sometimes it doesn't get resolved just by the student walking on our door and providing a consequence the followup the checking back in with the teacher the calling parents um checking in with theud students throughout the day as we see them we are able to see growth through that time and to take a student in any year freshman sophomore senior Junior whatever year to have them come through the door and be solved and have that success which we want okay they're not going to be tardy anymore for example um that we don't know that right away so we have to follow up to find out and if a student something as simple as a class tardiness student shows up late again then we have to progressively increase what we're doing for consequences we have to try different things sometimes when we have a meeting with a student and a teacher it doesn't get resolved so then we may have to pull in a parent sometimes we have to pull in a a a school a social worker to help get to what is the underlying issue that's causing these problems um it's more complicated than that but my my answer to your question to be direct I'd say 100% success because we're not just sending a kid back and saying oh well we can't fix them we're forever digging back in to try to get that student to get all the way through high school and to earn a diploma and a certificate in their shop area um what I often say this high school high school every high school it's almost like a big parachute for students they they understand I think at some point they can mess up and sometimes they take the risk that they wouldn't take otherwise while they're here we help to build them because we're not encouraging them to make mistakes but we're allowing them to make a mistake because we're there to help support it and to help fix it so the general answer I would give you is I I believe we're 100% successful when we deal with student discipline that being said students get to a point where they're graduating they sometimes they still need supports um we we don't know until you they actually live their life but we we build those relationships so that when kids leave here I think so many could come back to us reach out ask for support ask for help and I'm very proud of that part of being at this school because I I know my colleagues are kind of the same philosophy that I have with that one I'd like to add too sorry as well is that um for some students it takes one detention right or or one call home others it might take many more so it really depends on the student it depends on the situation the severity of the situation as well as whatever might be going on outside of school or some issues in school so um not every incident is cut and dry not every incident is the same cookie cutter um so it really depends on the situation and it depends on the student as well thank you other questions soill Chris are you saying in essence I think what I hear you say I think what I hear you saying is that bottom line is you don't quit on kids so no matter if it's the fifth time the 10th time your job is to help them uh improve help them to be successful so whatever it takes you're going to keep trying the next step and the next step uh um so I think that's probably the key to a lot of the success that you find in terms of relationship building with kids and they come to you when there are issues or problems uh the other question I would ask you is so we're uh into our second month here at glts with students what is your sense of the culture of the school with regards to kids right now versus other years when like are you seeing any changes improvements in terms of the data that you see with regard to the issues you're dealing with with uh teachers sending you students um is there a difference this year or is it you feel like it's common to every other year do you want to go first I have to say um what I'm seeing is our kids are awesome anyway our kids our kids are great do they make mistakes yes do they screw up yes that's their job I say it all the time your job as a teenager is to screw up and our job is to help you get better and change that behavior um and like you said John we don't give up on our kids we want them them to be the best best version of themselves by the time they walk across that stage um so is it it is it too early to say it's going to be a great year I think so far it's been a wonderful year um I was just saying today walking down the hall like my kids are doing really well but I'm afraid to say it I'm afraid to jinx myself um but so far you know our teachers have been wonderful supporting them in the classroom our students have been wonderful holding them self accountable I had a student in my office today I got a referral um for doing something I asked him if he did he said you know what M skillus I did and I know it was stupid so they are reflecting on their behavior their understanding they're taking accountability they're serving their consequences um and I think that we're going to have a great year um and it really just goes to show about the culture of our school the culture of our students the support that they have the resources that we have for our students so I think it's going to be a great year um and that is my hope um we never know what tomorrow is going to bring um but I really do believe in our students I believe in our staff and um our you know our supports that we have that our students can be the best version of themselves by the time they get there are there going to be bumps in the road yes are there going to be shop turns yes are there going to be pit stops yes but eventually they will get there um and the big moment is when they cross that stage and you maybe you never never thought they would get there but they did um and they're just as part of themselves as you are so questions so in your conversations with teachers and the faculty how have they responded towards this procedure that's in place I don't know if you've gotten input since the school year started I don't know if I don't know you could care to explain if this these procedures have changed compared to previous school years pretty again so so so um great question uh I think as we are building relationships with students we're also building and improving on relationships that we've had with teachers um often times the feedback we get is um individually um sometimes it's an email from a teacher that will share with both of us um I've gotten several emails this year from a couple I don't want to name them just because it's but but I hope they're they're reaching out and saying good things too um you know when they send us an email saying you guys are doing a a rock solid job it's great it's good to feel that it's good to hear that um but it also speaks to like and and I've learned from her she's amazing at building relationships I think my first few years here I learned to do that more and more and and as I've done that with teachers I've had teachers that maybe didn't agree with a way that I handled this situation in the past I've shown them that I'm willing to you know work with them and discuss what what their concerns are um having that type of open door policy being willing to like visit their classrooms rather than just say hey come see me if you have any problems that that's important so I I mean we we get feedback in both way we get positive and negative feedback I'm not going to lie um but typically uh all is worked out through a discussion and by having those relationships with the teachers it really helps um it's also not uh it's also I not to to carry on they do say I speak too much sometimes but one thing I do want to point out is that we are we are not infallible we're you know we're we're we're always in a a spot where even today I learn something new you know I always reflect the self-reflection is so important um when we talk about our core values of like growth mindset for example you know you don't graduate high school and stop making mistakes in your life you know I've made mistakes I've made mistakes here I've made mistakes in my my my past school that I worked in um I found those humbling experiences are very important because they allow us to take the time time to to accept change it's not always easy so so um when we talk about that it's not only us that are making mistakes sometimes teachers make mistakes and being able to have a discussion and with a strong relationship to help them grow as we grow as the students grow it's really a a solid community that we build when we do it and we approach it that way and I just want to add to sorry M um Mr miia that these procedures are not new they're they've been you know this is kind of what we've done over the years it's built uh as Bill said it's really about building those relationships with the teachers families and students because we all want the same goal in the end so these are not cut and dry they're not cookie cutter these are just you know what how we do our job every day and it's been kind of that way you know I learned from Miss Farris um from the beginning of what to do so um we've really built it from you know 30 plus years ago so so just to just to add-on so there are teachers that agree with this procedure and they I mean I like this procedure personally but there are teachers that do not like the procedure and how do you as a safe office approach a scenario where the teacher let's just say can't handle the discipline in the classroom or just doesn't handle just sends the kid to the safe office you do one mistake you're going to the safe office how do you approach you know I mean as here they're skipping from like 1 to 4 by just sending them to the safe office without handling it in the classroom so how is the safe office or how is the school approaching those teachers that you know don't don't like this approach you know maybe you could answer that I know every scenario is different yeah right so every scenario and it doesn't go step one step two right there might it might jump from one to five depending on the situation right um we to answer your question though if some if a teacher is like just go to the safe box just right there could be a reason why they might be having a bad day it could be a bad day for them something might have happened at home on their way to school so what we do is we try to reach out to the teacher we ask the teacher hey what's going on with Julio right um why was he ENT today how can we help you help Julio how can we help with that relationship a lot of the times we'll have a meeting in in our office uh guidance counselor um myself or or bill um or Miss Keys the student and the teacher and have a parent come in and have those conversations and figure out what is it that's going on what is making you want to send Julio out of class all the time um and maybe who Julio is saying well you know what mr's doing this mr's doing that he's making me feel this way and we really get to the core of the problem I just had a meeting like that last week um and it was wonderful and you know so far the relationship is much better they both understand each other um if teachers are struggling with classroom management we'll go into the classroom we'll observe we'll give them some feedback um give them some ideas have them work with a mentor maybe if they're a new teacher um so really we we we're there to both support the student and support the teacher to make sure that we're all kind of on the same you know page yeah thank you and the reason the reason why I say that scenario is because a parent had called me and told me that the teacher wasn't able to resolve the discipline but miss Keys was able to resolve it just by having a conversation with the student so that you know I commend that and I appreciate that that you know happened it wasn't just you know a goodbye to the student the student is still being followed up up to this day it's been two weeks so yeah that's great and sometimes again it's the Heat of the Moment there could be an issue like Bill had mentioned it's hard to stop teaching in the moment to address it right um and it might be in a situation where that the teacher needs to send the student down in order to finish the class um you know we don't love that to happen but sometimes it has to happen um and sometimes when the students all upset we give them a minute to calm down and then we talk to them um and they're able to reflect and figure out what's going on from there so I'm glad to hear that it was resolved yeah I really I'm you know I mean I'm I'm 100% behind you on these procedures and and I know that you know that the office itself I mean the whole the whole description the job can is a very fluid situation from moment to moment my only concern and it's always been a concern whether it be for me or you um is when do you know it's like you know all right when when do you know that you're building relationships you're working up a sweat you're doing everything right and you're doing it too many times and when when does it click that hey maybe this is over my head maybe we should do this that the other thing I mean it's like sending you know that that person that person that is driven drunk five times out there knowing that they're savable but they're salvageable but you know it's not up to you to do that you know I mean they could go kill somebody that's that's an awesome question million dollar question because because we yeah I mean you know your teetering is it's all balance and it's it's a fine line and I I think that you know in all schools you have to be really Vigilant and and know when that person comes around so many times that you know what it's not a coincidence so what what we have been able to do is our relationship has gotten so strong and we brought in a rock star Miss keys to to help us with the Freshman because it was just too many students at one point you know my first year here we had 1300 students so it's an equal split that's fine we we work through it we have another 500 on top of that now and it's not that we couldn't do it up until last year we did but um we we hold each other in check um I turned to her so many times throughout the day when I struggle to uh find that solution because it's not getting solved in a day or a week even that it's ongoing you know um but we we turn to each other we hold each other in check we also learn from each other and we we try to model that whole procedure for the teachers because I mean going back to to your question Miss Maria like that that when we do have a teacher that's struggling with that so our modeling that consistently is important and it is it's something that um it really spans out to everybody at that point where it's infectious you know that we we do that but but um we we will often turn to each other for that support um if I see something that I feel like it's it's it's I I'm not afraid to go to miss Gillis and say hey this student that you work with have you tried this have you tried that where are you what could I do to help um but working off of each other is is helpful a lot um because you don't know at what point you know like Progressive discipline is great if you guys just to explain what that means it means like if you come into my office and you're tardy and you get a detention then the next time you're tardy you should get two detentions or or so on it's progressively it increases what we do and we have almost a box of tricks that what's next you know the more resources we have to work work with the uh the better we are with it but when I'm dealing with a student and I'm not seeing the progress that I need that's evident because we're getting the same type of complaints um it's very important for us to see that with each other and use the resources to get to that underlying piece um and that's that's what we do we we'll call in a a school social worker for an example I I use it often when I have a student that shuts down they're not communicating with me at that point I'll ask our social worker to check in with them and then I'll follow up after they do we'll I'll meet with just a social worker you know I'll meet with Miss Gillis we we hold each other to to straight answer is just checking each other and staying on top of it and we do the best we can with that and I want to add to uh Amry is that we you know we try to use mtss or tier three interventions right getting as many people involved as we can to help the student because obviously what we're still seeing the student all the time right and the behaviors might be getting worse so they could be the same behavior over and over and over again um we've tried suspension we tried you know whatever it may be and it's still happening right so um now we need to dig even deeper we need to yeah I mean I I guess my concern has always been certainly even more now um that these behaviors are contrary to everything that goes on here and you know I mean it's and and it doesn't maybe maybe it doesn't happen at all but in this day and age it's it's something that I think extra vigilance needs to you know always be there yeah and sometimes students need more than we can give them right and we need to identify those students right those students that I think you're you're talking about right but what what point does does that student Elevate to some more serious consequence yeah I I guess it depends right it depends on and it certainly does depend it does so I guess what I'm saying my concern it's not a question I'm 100% behind you here but my concern is the vigilance for that kind of behavior yeah and I agree and now it nowadays in today's 2024 right it's not uncommon that that that stuff is out there that happens it happens and it affects everything you've done you could have do it 100% but you you you overlook something that you know what was there all along and I just didn't see it yeah and that's important it is and it's important to bill was saying reflect be like what am I doing I need help and really we we're very fortunate enough to even have more resources having a social worker in our in our office having three Deans essentially having um other social workers having social workers in the special ed office right so our resources have grown um and we're able to use those and we have a lot of expertise within the building that um we can tap into as well um and when that perfect moment is I wish I I knew when that perfect moment usually it will click and say or I'll say to Bill or Bill will say to myself I think you need to go here um sometimes you're right you don't see it because you're in it but someone else will see it and and we really do work collaboratively and we do have like the tier three meetings where we bring kids up and ask for those supports right that's that's important too um collaborating with other people um the other thing is um you have cover to passes do they check in check out and they can go wherever yeah they it's on online now right right yeah all right don't rub it in um you know uh for those who oversees and you know is the oversight on that yeah to see that gez you know the student is running right under the radar but they're never in class they're here they're there they're everywhere they never you know do anything they always do their work but they're running the Halls all day yeah the awesome thing now is that with the new the new system that we have we can run reports how long they're out of class how often they're out of class yeah I guess I'm asking how often is that done that's that's done once every month um and then also if we're getting write ups about a student that's missing was over their pass by 10 minutes we'll follow up with that even sooner but we run that data and that data comes out how many minutes they've been out of class how many you know right cuz that could be an embarrassing situation if parent comes and says you know jez well I don't know my my kid's been out of class hasn't had any discipline problem so it's it's um it's a great way to show the data yeah no that's great that was my that was my original question actually yeah it's it's a great system and it's uh we started uh last year with our data analysis uh Personnel it's Courtney she helps she would run reports for us and then we divvy It Up by our students and we put students on restrictions actually allows us to do it ourselves now so every month I'm actually going to run the report and share and uh what we do is they it it actually causes smart passes the system and the report calls it frequent flyers so it's it's aptly named um and if they're flying too much all our students get four passes a day and the first offense when we have that 5% which it prints out and we could see how many hours they've been out of class so we bring them down to two passes day we have that discussion and we help to explain to them you you we're doing this we're holding you accountable for it we want you to be accountable for it so you could earn it back if you bring your numbers down then at the next month we'll actually take you off that list right so so that's kind of what I wanted see that it's monitored there's some oversight it's not like oh I get away with this I've been all quar you know I mean what we find is those on the list are those frequent flyers that they don't only have problems with passes they have problems in other areas too so again we have those relationships we're able to work with them we bring the parents in when we have to and again we're not always just going to two sometimes we go to zero and we escort students around so they're held accountable for that directly and uh the system is I love it it's great it's three years and the hardest thing was getting everybody on board you know early on when we first brought it on teachers would be oh just go across real quick and they wouldn't make a pass so emphasizing making that pass communicating that out to teachers because when we put students on restrictions the teachers then see it and we are able to tell them you know if if this student needs to leave a class again call us we'll escort them and a lot of times that you know is what we need to do to discourage that type of behavior one of the things I want to point out is we have a student whose Behavior may impact the safety of other students or or adults or anybody in the building then we may go to outside resources for support and advice on how to handle a situation when it gets beyond what we can do within the facilities of the building or we've worked for them work with them for an uh a series of different uh strategies and it's not working but we feel there's a danger to other students or adults then we go to outside resources as well including our own legal support yeah um number safety is number one for all of us we want to make sure every single student feels safe to learn um to be here every day and that's our goal questions actually now it's my turn uh for Mr uh superintendent you said you go to outside resources like what kind of outside resources you you referring to it can it can be resources it can be anything from uh uh legal services that we work with our attorneys that we work with it could be outside agencies that we work with who have uh different uh uh skills and ability to work with students with different issues that they may have whether it be mental illness whether it be something that's uh causing that behavior that we can't manage or handle we may go to an outside agency to work with that student when it's beyond anything that we can control so we can't always control certain behaviors but we have to make sure our students are safe so whatever we it takes in order to and not and not and it's not to say that we're looking to not have that turn student return our goal is always to work with them and try to see if we can help the student students so that they can return someday and continue their education here uh so the goal is not to say oh we want them out of the school the goal is what can we do to help that students who's dealing with some behaviors that are causing these problems and and uh that we need to resolve in order to have him back in the school and work safely with other students within the school now it's my turn if I again they don't let me speak around here much first of all Christa congratulations for getting the mic away from Bill and uh secondly you mentioned Kate Keys um Katie's been doing an awesome job um but she is not an administrator does that hold her back from doing anything is that any friction from the faculty and don't get me wrong I'm not advocating putting on more administrators believe me I just want to know how hand no I don't think I you know she's very professional um she'll she'll come to me if she feels like she's having a conflict with a teacher um I walk her through it I help her I'll support her um it but I the teachers respect her um she has earned a lot of respect within this um position she had respect before but a lot more in this position because she has done a phenomenal job with a freshman a freshman making getting fresh from the minute they step into this building is the most important part they need to learn the culture they need to learn the rules they need to understand the core values of our school and the expectations and having someone um directly working with the Freshman just like they do in guidance they have three different guidance uh guidance counselors we're pulling from 27 middle schools 26 27 middle schools um all with different discipline expectations what they you know um some middle schools say this behavior is okay and we have very very high expectations which we do because we know they can meet them and especially because it's vocational school we have to expect our students to act a lot more mature than you would at our sending Community you comprehensive high schools because they're working with heavy machinery and we need them to be safe all the time um so does she butt heads with with uh teachers I I don't believe so if she was to have an issue or feel as though she needed to do something more that she feels she's not since she's in the same Union teachers union she would come to us and we would support her and address that um but you know if you want to make our administrator we'd love it lastly um and this is the vocational person in me your Avenue whenever you're having difficulties is go to the principal then go to superintendent and come to to us let's do the vocational way go direct directly to us I'm going to ask you directly is there anything you need to keep our faculty and Kids Safe that you don't have just your I would say your continued support um being able to support us um you know Chad has been a great addition John Brenda everyone um in you here have been a great support for us supporting us in what we do every single day um it's it as Amry said very fluid you never have the same day twice um so it's being able to support us when we need help we always go there you know at whether it's a colleague or a supervisor superintendent assistant superintendent other people in other departments um it really is a team effort it is not a oneperson job it is a team effort we're here for the students none of us would be here if it wasn't for the students um and really it's just that continued support cuz we want to stay what people think about us right they people come here because we're a great school and we're safe and we want to continue to to to serve that for our students and our families and our communities I thank you both for being here tonight I know you've had enough hours in this building today uh we've taken you away from your families from your homes thank you I want you to know that this committee is very very concerned about discipline in this building and thank you very very much for being here tonight thank you for inviting us and you know we can come back whenever you want thank you thank you have a good night thank you guys next up is the uh dress code Mr Lavoy so um with regards to the address code we did put a committee together and it's was uh a recommendation when we got together that we should uh move the issue uh to our attorney we in doing some research we found that there is a lot of struggle with dress codes across the Commonwealth that different schools are dealing with uh particularly that it's become an issue where it seems as though uh students have more rights to um to uh wear what they feel they're comfortable in without as long as they not this um disrupting the learning environment uh and uh and is safe for whatever uh procedure uh activities they're doing within the building so we've uh asked our attorney to do some research and he's going to come back at the next school committee meeting to do a report on uh what's going on across the state and what we can and cannot do legally with regards to dress codes any questions am Mar well given that this is a Vocational Technical High School primarily it's not part of a comprehensive school it it should have separate rules and expectations right I mean I'm I'm not a lawyer I'm next to being a lawyer but I'm not a lawyer but I mean this is a school where you have to work and be in the right attire so um with regards to our rules can impact students with regards to Safety in terms of how they dress in chop and safety but the general uh consensus at this time is that students have more rights with regards to the dress code than they've had in the past and there have been other schools that have uh uh tried to enforce dress codes and have been brought into uh question and brought into legal battles over it and in most cases they find that um that they are weighing on the side of students with regards to their rights to dress uh in uh as long as they're not dressing in a way that's uh causing disruption in the school poor language those kind of issues so um we're the reason and the reason we haven't tried to make any changes on the dress code rather than make make changes and then come back with a uh a challenge from parents and from students and from faculty um I believe it would be in our best interest to have our attorney uh review the the matter uh and make sure that we're going to align with state law and changes that have been uh happening in the last couple of years with regards to dress codes okay I mean I'm I'm not going to I'm not going to supersede what an attorney is going to say but I mean I mean this is our society I mean I mean we're not against the law are we no I don't think we are in our dress code the existing one there's question it's questionable our existing dress code for students is questionable whether we're violating their right is inappropriate it's not it's that we may be violating their rights based on what our existing dress code is now I'm not saying we are that's why I've turned it over to our attorney to um to make a uh recommendation to the committee which he he will come to the next meeting I just know Mr superintendent that we could have a long discussion on whether we're violating student rights and whether our rights are being violated when they're not absorbing the material that people are standing up here all day trying to get them to be again using Christ's word the best version of themselves I don't know of anyone in society in our communities that wouldn't want their child to be the best that they could be and to help us all stop entitling individuals and start allowing and putting some parameters and boundaries on our youth and I mean I I will continue this forever because that's how I feel I think we're way too I hate to use the word liberal but I mean we are way overboard even as a society but I have faith in the four at least the four communities here to know and and and know that they want the best for their students and and dressing appropriately is part of that I mean I just cannot I I I think I think as a school we fail students by not putting some boundaries on them yeah I wouldn't argue or disagree with you but I know that's the thing and um no one's going to listen to me yeah it's not you know it's not what my standards may be but what not even low my what the law says is their rights well I mean then I have a right to go to dunin donence and and ask for a coffee and get it the way I want and not have it done incorrectly because they can't read the little sticker there I mean I I I I really can argue this all day and especially being out there and not in here all day and being out in the communities I mean I have a lot of material well I think once once Wayne comes and gives us his report then we can talk about what we may disagree with in with regards to what he has I already had uh two meetings with him and tried to argue some of the points with him and uh I mean I fear I fear what you're going to tell me next that's why I'm not going down that road so I'm not even going to allow you to say that to me so I'm done well um in regards to the uh to the dress code I I personally believe that my community for example Lawrence has when when it comes to dress you know kids are too focused on what they're going to wear and whether the brand they're going to wear and whether they're going to use shoes from palis or they're going to use Nikes and and that's a a problem of its own so when it comes to this I I I don't even understand why student will have a a saying when in each institution should have the right to decide what kind of clothing what kind of coat you know whether the going to wear uniform or not cuz you know you wear uniform on on shop and it's not questionable because it's the dress code for each shop why couldn't we have a uniform for academic week so that each student identify theel that they belong to gr laar Technical High School in this period um I think that again I I don't know I'm not an attorney neither but I would definitely vote 100% for for um for uniform because it would identify the student it will also take the pressure from parents in communities like mine that they not able to keep up with buying kids clothing because they want to dressed up like they're going to a to a club right or they're competing with an ex girl in the in the same classroom on the clothing the parents can actually afford to buy so uh I would love to hear legally what we are able to do I think that if we represent the community that we represent I think it should be able to be up to up to us to be able to vote on on whether the kids should have a uniform or not I think it should be the end of that because that's why they hire that's so they voted for us they V for us to represent their needs and I think if you ask me I think that my community will will be parents will probably appreciate more the fact of not having that pressure of buying their kids all these extra clothing to be able to go to school for for a year because they don't want to repeat the clothing next week or whatever so I think that if it if it up to me I definitely vote for for uniform so that that's not even a question or even a battle of what I'm putting on myself that that's my my point on it I mean I I mean I know it's crazy but I I would too and it's about Pride we're doing so much in the school to show them Pride to have them be proud of who they are and what they become and I mean to ask him to just dress appropriately I I think I find that ridiculous I I I would go so far as to put it on a ballot that is this is this is I'm sorry they are still students they are still under someone else's care I I I they they are not at the point where they're making decisions we are helping them be productive members of society and part of that is is personal Pride personal grooming that is all part of who you are and become I don't know so I mean we have Lawrence public schools that have uniforms correct as far as I know as far as I know as well I mean we could be Trail blazes and the problem to what to what you're saying is you know what I consider to be okay for the skirt right small skirt or whatever 3 Ines away from a certain from your knee or it's a halfway through your through your through your through your tis or even shorter right like it depends some people consider okay and I think this we just got that that consideration I think it should be just uniform with shouldn't be even discussing regular clothing unless they have a a Friday for just dress dress like whatever how you want on on one particular day no I'm serious I'm with them I never thought I'd say that because that's even more extreme than I was anticipating that I would say but I'm I'm with him because I think that that's the only clearcut way I mean I'm saying appropriate dress appropriate grooming well then there's that nebulous what's appropriate so I'm I'm with them and when I when I came to high school I had kids in pajamas in my ridiculous and that that is it's it's it's unreal so it I don't yes any other questions Mr Jones yeah I wouldn't want to beat the same issue to death but I do believe in the dress code and I do think that if they were uniformed whether it's whether it's a shirt and slacks or maybe something a little bit different for the females again they don't have to worry about what they're going to wear that day everybody's equal and I feel if this is the place that everybody wants to be and you set the rules those are the rules and I could be wrong but in years past I I know the school provides certain amount of shop uniforms at this point I think uh they should also be buying their own uniforms you know for academic side you know not everything in the society can be provided anymore we just haven't got the resources you know no matter how much this budget for this school comes up with you know to throw more money in to dress everybody the same way for an academic side they have to take some responsibility on their side and I think uniforms be cheaper than a lot of the some of the jeans that are out there my wife hates when I bring that up but the new Jean style where they're all torn up and shredded it just boggles my mind it's like so the I know society's changed but we've we SLO we sort of slobbered up quite a bit I mean if you look back at pictures from years ago you might have a guy that dug ditches for the day but on on the weekend or Saturday he was dressed very respectably CU he wasn't at work you know and they have to understand there's two sides of it and I've had kids come to me you know for employment and if I could see their underwear they were told to get a belt and put them on or they will leave them cuz they're they're representing my company you know so if the standards not set here when it gets out to the employer it will be or the student won't stay and you know that goes for torn jeans again the underwear uh it's it's appearance so that's my take on it Mr Mia I mean we've come to the conclusion now that we all agree on dress code I assume yeah we all agree on a dress code policy um the only thing I will say is is superintendent maybe you could clarify is we have a dress code policy right now correct is one in place right now yes okay so you know obviously when when the attorney comes you know we want to make sure that the dress code policy that we're the recommendation that we're getting is of course we all agree a dress code policy but also a part where we're being you know aware of culture cultural and religious accommodations um I think that's where I would say okay you know there's exemptions in certain under certain criteria and I know other districts and um schools across the Commonwealth would share in their in their policies is that you know their policies are integrated in a way that is collected by input through their District committees their the families The Faculty the administration something that is fair all across and it's not you know here you go this is the dress code policy but we're also involving the teachers and the students and the parents that are also going to be impacted by it so I know you said that in the policy right now there might be a question whether they we're violating students rights do you know to the top of your mind what rights were are we talking about I mean what what part of the dress code policy right now is in violation of the students rights because one is individual adult rights and also student students rights on school grounds so I just want to make sure that that that's clear I'm not I didn't understand fully what you meant by that so if you could just clarify yeah so you we may have certain criterias in our dress code now that uh a student may not want to live by and uh they and it might be violating their creativity or their right to to creativity or expression of who they are and how and who they want to be which we have uh no right to deny them of that uh that's been some of the language that I've encountered in and doing some research around this and so um the very spec I wouldn't want to highlight the specifics in the Co in our address code at this point I want to let our attorney determine where we're in violation or if we're even in violation uh that's his you know exper teeth or his um area of research that he's doing for us to ensure that we follow uh the regulations of the laws as it come pertains to dress code since we are looking at we've decided we want to look at do we need to have a more stringent dress code do we need to have higher expectations so in doing the work of looking at what that should look like um I think we need to have some guidance to make sure we're not incorporating new a new dress code that is even um in more violation of what we can or can't do so rather than start making all these changes and then come back and find well made all these changes but uh we don't want to be challenged and find out that we can't uh uh hold students accountable to what we've asked them of better off to know what we are capable of uh of are allowed to do with regards to to the law uh so we're working on Solid Ground we make our decisions so it's so it's basically what I said there are you know we're allowing students to have you know there are cultural there are religious accommodations but now what I'm understanding from what you're saying and again we're not lawyers and and you're going to wait for the attorney is a matter of being inclusive as to how the student identifies or how how the student wishes to dress up I mean you know that's the society we live in and we have to respect that if a student wants to dress a different way then we have to respect that but also we need to make sure that we are being you know stringent and we're being you know we have expectations because we are a vocational school I just want to make sure that that's clear for when the attorney comes and you know the recommendation becomes well we don't need that kind of dress code well I just want to make sure that we have one that's of high expectations but we're also being fair Equitable to those students that wish to identify differently or to to dress differently but also appropriate yeah I think one of the advantages that there are concerns of safety that are going to be looked at when we determine you know what's safe attire in a particular shop versus you know another shop or or the classroom itself so there will be some consideration with regards to safety uh in each particular program or shop to ensure that they are uh their tire is uh safe and manner whether it be work boots whether it be pants shirt you know if they're working in a welding shop what what's a safe attire in a in a program like that to ensure that they are meeting those standards that will be also considered for sure yeah I mean if I had my way yeah I'd love to have everybody living in a uh you know in uniforms way you know I did back when I was a student here or maybe that's a little strong but at least something that's respectable and represents the career in which they're pursuing uh to me would be a you know a good standard in which to hold them to questions so I'll Echo the uh the superintendent uh having uh attorney Simmons here for the next meeting if we can get him yes thank you work Force announcements Mr Lavoy we have some good news oh there's um I just added to your packet uh that on September 27th I was uh asked if I would uh because we have been working for over 10 years with the Clean Energy Center on grants and pursuing Alternative Energy um methods and training that they asked if I would present at their uh award ceremony where they gave out $13 million in in grant money to uh different schools and different organizations to talk a little bit about some of the uh new technologies we've instituted based on grants that they've given us over the last 10 years one of the things that I when I got when we went into the auditorium the pamphlet The Brochure that they had was actually a picture of our students from a program we did almost 10 years ago we did a a uh a program where we taught students how to put solar panels in in which the students actually got paid for that program yeah that was about almost 10 years ago but uh they highlighted that program as one of the uh outstanding programs that they uh awarded to us almost 10 years ago so I did want to uh just give you a few pictures and highlights of uh some of the success we've had with the Clean Energy Center uh we've been very fortunate to get several grants from them over the last last 10 years including the one that we just got for $750,000 which is funding um a uh a build a house uh that we're building to teach students new weatherization technology uh techniques and uh a geothermal system in our uh one of the buildings we're building now which is worth about $300,000 which they're funding and some other training and equipment that they've also funded through this last grant that we just received so uh we've been very fortunate to be successful uh with that organization thank you uh update on the purchase of the Elks Mr well with regards to the Elks we're still trying to find a suitable location for the Elks met with the City of Lawrence um we're looking the uh the city has uh re Redevelopment Authority owns a piece of land over in sou Lawrence not far from the Elks that may be a possibility there are some uh issues with um some of the uh conservation issues on the lot but we met out there to take a look at is it are there solutions to that which we believe there may be uh so we're doing uh we're working with the city to try to get uh a answer to that and they're helping us to try to uh see if we can get an engineer out there to let us know know if it's going to be possible for the Elks to put a building on that lot that is our best opportunity right now we are also uh doing uh a reach out to Brooks uh properties who own some land out on the out not far from the Elks as well um typically they don't like to sell their land they usually lease it but uh I've got a call out to them hopefully uh I'll get a recall return call but we are continuing to pursue to try to find something suitable for them to purchase so then we could purchase their their building so that's still uh one of the things we're doing uh in the intrum is the uh Barn that we have out back that we're building we're looking at uh putting in six uh medical uh classrooms out there uh that we can have students until we're able to expand out at the Elks uh utilize that space and then we can convert that to another program once we move them out to the elk so that's how we're trying to deal with it right now so um it doesn't prevent us from continuing the opportunity to expand those medical programs in the interim questions desie recognizes glts for achievement on access scores Mr Lavoy so uh I did share a document with you where uh our um multil language language uh learning program uh was recognized for significant progress on the 2024 access test um it shows that we've increaseed scores from 34 to 46% which is uh was noted as an uh a outstanding uh progress uh and our uh cultural our director language culture and Equity uh Dr Joe faucet I was invited to present with two other panelists at the dsc's OA Network meeting on October 9th to talk about some of the insights and progress we made with our students which is a uh pretty significant um uh recognition of the work that she's done for our students and I think I sent you an email today of a staff member who also recognized her uh for the work that she did helping their particular program as well so we're fortunate to have uh a staff member administrator that uh does exceptional work like that so I thought it was important for you to highlight that one of the things uh I spoke to the administrative team at our last meeting so starting next meeting we're going to try try to highlight one administrator and the programs that they oversee so that you can learn a little bit more about each program and the work that that administrator does so that you're more familiar with what's going on throughout the building uh relative to each specific program that the different administrators over see everything from um academic programming to vocational program I think uh I thought it might be more helpful and that'll open the door for you to ask questions and concerns you may have about anything that may be going on in those programs in your packet you'll have uh two calendars October and November things that are happening any questions to the superintendent on any of those moving on to reports of the committee we have uh we have the uh the BGE policy uh for the district committee priorities we have to vote on um if you look at the last couple sentences you only there was a change in there the bottom sentence remove the above statement policies are online uh the school committee policy manual will be considered a public record and will be available for inspection at the superintendent's office that has been removed removed that statement and included in policies are online and I understand they're on the glts website I need a vote on that place a motion on that pleas to accept you get a second second thank you all those all those in favor say I opposed any further discussion on that no new business we don't have any tabled matters uh Personnel considerations report resignations head the Sila ml instructor effective 10 1124 no leaves of absences no retirements appointments we have two of them Jason Hull Plumbing instructor effective date 10724 Richard suu autoc Collision and Repair instructor effective 11424 and no job postings excuse me please I noticed on that there's a discrepancy between what the principal sent out um in his newsletter about new staff and what we have absorbed uh during the last meeting and here as a reading specialist and I'd like to know how many we have so we have two reading Specialists that were I think they were in the last meeting's uh no um they weren't in the last meeting's appointments not this person and I'm you know I don't think I can say that name which person are you referring to it's a Judith that was not in our report last time of one of the reading Specialists there were two I think but she was not one of okay there were already two yeah so we had two there were already two listed here yep and in the principal's report um in the principal's report that was decided yeah so one of them resigned and we recently had the in the short amount of time she was here and we recently just fulfilled her position that that's probably the from one week I don't think she actually start didn't actually start so was that the very beginning of the school year I don't know that she even yeah there's a question whether she even started she resigned went to another school uh and so then we had to repost and hired another person in their in her place that's probably the name that he put in the report you know what I'm always sure of there's always an explanation so we'll um I'm not sure that but I will keep on Sue Has zeroing in so the the uh names that are in here Sue gets from the uh uh HR office but sometimes within the time frame of someone getting appointing appointed and her putting together this uh this work a week in advance she might have gotten hired I'm not sure what the situation is I can find out we set in there's not anything I can do about it I can't hear you in me I said there's there's nothing I can do about that if that person I have the superintendent tend to check on he he just explained himself future agenda yeah I'll bring her I'll bring her name next time we come I'll I'll present her in the in the uh report Personnel report okay okay future agender items none at this time there is a need for an executive session Personnel mtis I have a motion to move to Executive session please motion to enter executive session second we shall we take a vote on it all all uh in favor I I I anybody opposed thank you osar e e e e e yeah I'll make a motion to accept the uh resolution to the labor board claim second second all those in favor I no let's follow vote Miss TSLA Mr Jones yes Mr Mahia abstain Mr Mercedes no no Mr tbox yes M Ferris yes Mr haum yes other item can I get a motion on the Cory checks please I'll motion we accept to have the Cory check done second can I ask about that so obviously let's let's get this the second before we open for discussion you have a second discussion obviously I do want the um you know the most security for our kids I don't know how the Corey to what level Cory Works how far it goes back I thank God Happ have any criminal records in my life um the only illegal thing I done is speed I think it all time at one point but that's my most illegal thing but I I do have a question and and again I'm sorry I'm bringing this up but there is um a story a true story I'm watching on Netflix and this one guy made made a mistake in the past and obviously it kept on Hunting him where people don't give him jobs opportunities because he did something wrong but he turned his life around and he's still being hunted by he his mistake and again that's not my my situation and I do want but how far the core he goes to where a person made have made a mistake in the past of his life and he turned around and he's giving back to his community now he wants to come in and give to to our kids in this position is not a PID position why would would would how is that going to affect that person who turn his life around and want to be able to be part of the committee like so if anybody can you answer that so I look at Corey and sories all the time for employees and the only time I look at them is if there's some kind of issue that is uh picked up by the Cory Sor and genuinely speaking uh it can be 25 30 years back so all a lot of things are considered is there is there a danger to the students like if you did something wrong in the past like H up the hell the bank up or something very serious you know then you know that's considered whether is there a danger to students in any for any and if it happened 25 years ago and you had nothing else since then then that's considered as well there's a lot of factors you consider the first and foremost is there a danger to students and uh if you are engaging in coaching doing something uh will it have an impact on will you have some kind of negative impact on on the student that's really kind of what they look at you can make a lot of people make mistakes you know uh because you made a mistake in the past doesn't mean you don't pass the cor or Sor otherwise there be a lot of people not working in the building a lot of people you know not uh coaching or because people do make mistakes because if you look on the Corey if you when you were 16 got caught driving a car without a license that would be on your Corey that doesn't mean you shouldn't be a school Committee Member this has no impact on the work that you're doing is just a mistake as a kid or whatever but it's important you know so I'm not going to look at the Cory and stories I would suggest that if the school committee is going to you know thre into Cory and so of the school committee and and something comes up on the Corey then that would be I would I would suggest we have the attorney look at it because I work for you guys I really shouldn't be checking the Cory's the stories or anything that comes up I think in out like our attorney would be to me in my mind that's who I want to look at and say oh this is a serious event that we got to be concerned about cuz or you can have HR look at it or you can have somebody else look at it but you know uh Sor in particular is more sexual in nature and something you might have done that had would have a major impact on concerns being around students or kids no matter how far back it goes then we would probably say no you can't and then uh then you know that's up to the committee in terms of you know what you do with it just say um from my experience uh one of my players from North End of we got in trouble in high school and he's a soccer coach and all sort he could he was hired in other towns but he couldn't be hired in and over North and it's like it's just it's it's followed him through his whole life yeah it's at the discretion of the person making a decision as to whether they you're D you're danger to the the students yeah but it was like the HR in those towns they through his records and they wouldn't hire him but other towns would hire I'm saying that's that's what happens sometimes I would suggest if there was uh a problem or anything that we move it back to the city or town you come from and let them make it determination they're the ones that sent me sent me sent you well It's Tricky it's a tricky thing because nobody can look no one can know what's on that cor sorry except for the person that is at the highest level of ensuring the safety of students so in in the school situation that would be myself so typically HR like might look at the cor and stories and then decide oh there's a problem here got to bring it up to the superintendent and I look at it and determine if there's a danger to the students or not cuz we we Cy uh anyone any of the night school people don't take courses at night we Cy all those people and sorry all those people night school teachers anybody that's in the building when students are in the building we cry those so I look at you know people are taking a course in the electrical or Automotive we Cy all those people and I have to determine if they're a danger to being in this in this which is a very rare case that that happens it does happen but it's a rare case because I understand if you did made a mistake 20 years ago and you're trying to make your life better and you're taking a Course and there in no danger that just because you got caught you know driving without a license that has no impact on hurting kids or anything you know I think you're trying to change your life I'm not going to say no yeah I'm going to say absolutely is trying to she or he's trying to do make make a difference in her improve their lives unless it's something real serious I mean the the reason I had it done is because I'm helping with the girl soccer team so I'm in touch with those kids you know yeah our substitutes are I think that as a school committee don't really engage with kids or anything so um by law I don't think the law says you have to be Cory and Sor you're making a policy because you think it's important but as far as the law is concerned you don't need to be Mr um honestly I mean the attorney has his opinion um but I don't know of any school committee in the Commonwealth and I'm a part of the regional division for the mass Association for school committees and I don't know of any school committee that has such a requirement we don't have the authority to you know if let's just say someone else I mean I don't have a record but if someone had a record we don't have the authority to take a vote and remove the person because we're in elected positions that would be in a different scenario if we were appointed by the each each individual Community but for example you know the methan school committee they don't have a COR check requirement they're in elected positions so I I don't I'm not going to vote in favor of any such requir just because this is we're in elected positions um but I suggest the attorney go back to mass Association of school committees and double check that but out of experience that's what I've what I've seen else for the vote let's call the vote on it this is my uh this was my suggestion a few weeks ago everybody agreed to it and I know everybody's agreed to it and that's fine what I want to do is take a vote for the future school committies so let's see how that goes you're saying you you want to vote you're voting on a policy that says you have to have a Cory Sor so that's what you're voting on to put a policy in place my interest is just protecting our kids nothing more can I get a motion to uh any other questions I'm sorry we did receive a motion receive do I have a second all right that was the discussion can we call the vote please miss Faris yes Miss dla yes Mr Jones yes Mr Mahia obstain Mr Mercedes uh I don't even know what to V to that to tell you the truth I I don't understand it much but um I do want the benefit uh to the kids and and if it's going to be overlooked the way it's going to be looked at I think uh it's a good idea yes Mr TX Mr hayam yes [Music] motion make motion to Second thank you everybody all we have the vote Mr tbox yes Miss Ferris miss dla Mr Jones yes Mr Maha yes M Mercedes Mr Mercedes Mr hayam yes this
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at Cherrybrook and we are going to be um hopefully hearing about our reading resource selection thank any questions for uh curriculum and Technology I want to make sure we get that title curriculum and Technology onto Communications pass yeah so uh from from our perspective uh we continue to work on information to go up for the the public through a video for uh our chry process as that continues to crystallize for us we're also um working on a new newsletter that we intend to be able to come out right around right around November um early November with highlights from the the Board of Education opening the school year um Lucas also stole the lead there too with the next installment of you did are good uh with the next installment of the students Center video that the student board event the student board event reps are are providing to be able to talk about um goals as we think about our our Focus this year as cultivating growth um going out and being able to look at in addition to the goals a district what are the goals of our kids as part of telling the story for us as well that's great I'm I'm interested at getting that newsletter out any anybody have any questions on Communications Okay calendar events I'll just remind you again the ca uh mixer is 10:17 Bill Phelps um is 1022 at halftime tri board meeting is 10:21 Nancy Grace's celebration for life is 10 28 at the firehouse in 26 I'm sorry 1026 at the cant Street firehouse and again is uh Eric just mentioned curriculum is 10:30 9 to 11 in the Middle School both States primary school I'm sorry primary school for oh it is primary school sorry is is that where it is now permanently or just for that okay thank you primary school thank you for that correction any any questions for the chair any issues on calendar anything else BR sure it's I think in regards to the Strategic plan but I guess my question would be like if we don't see something in there should we just email you that's a solid point so if you see something in student achievement for example which just stay one go thought so if we didn't discuss something tonight yeah email um Claudia and Claudia will make sure that we're going to put it in no matter what so if somebody emails I'll put that in red for next meeting and then we'll have student achievement when we went over we know we got to look at i h we'll make the changes that we made and then if there's anything in student achievement that we didn't discuss t i put it in okay I guess I just need some guidance on like where occupational learning would fit in it's basically what I'm touching upon is like an occupational learning especially Cherry for the younger students and like hand washing things like that cleanliness going into um uh you know flu and sickness season and just learning environment okay okay thank you okay finally I'd like to ask is there is there anybody that wants to volunteer to man for man a table edit for an hour on October 19th to give candy out to the kids that's at the park that's Ms Pond Park right we got two kids so you guys are great pardon me I'm part of it for the as thank you okay okay so if we could just get one just from uh setup is at 11: but it goes 1100 at 12:30 would you mind me okay great uh I'll talk party about arranging get candy and the table CET Banner that we put so you know supported that thank you so much for that can I just add one thing Jordan just answer your question because I want the Strategic PL is a big part of the board so what Jordan gave examples of like hand washing and and different things like that and this guide and learning learning environment and belonging where that will go is Implement Wellness programs and initiatives to promote the mental and physical wellth being of students and staff so specifically if it was one of the continuous Improvement plans that would fit right in there and I guess just really quick I know it's Le um when or where will you see like the plans on these items so so like we see you know that one Implement Wellness programs like where would we continuous Improvement PL so if you go yeah so if you go into Drew's plan tonight that's in your packet if you look at his goals he would be able to go into a student achievement and look at what we discussed tonight and I can guarantee he actually that I crosswalk he matched them up every every continuous plan will match up against the goals and strategies great okay can I take a motion to adjourn please thank you thank you Cindy second K any any discussion on this we can go for another 20 minutes if you all those in favor at 8:47 8:47
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e e e the meeting to order uh Welcome to the Wednesday October 99 2024 design review board meeting public comment is by Zoom or by phone or phone by calling 877 5247 or 888 78899 and entering meeting ID 9412 this information is also available on the published agenda in the Public Notices section of the city website and on the broadcast of this meeting on CTN Channel 16 AT&T channel 99 and online at www.a2gov.org slatch CN the volunteer resident design review board appointed by the mayor and confirmed by city council Foster's excellence in Ann Arbor's built environment M design and advises applicants on meeting downtown design guidelines first the applicant presents their proposed project for 15 minutes then the board discusses the design after that members of the public can comment for up to three minutes each uh Hank if you can do the roll call please I will actually be doing the roll CER today um Jeffrey Perkins here Tamar burn Lorie Singleton here thank you William Kenley here Richard Mitchell here John karski and Wendy Ramson here thank you you have a quum thank you uh we'll move on to approval of our agenda um if I could have a motion to approve in a second so moved second um moved by dick and seconded by Lori any discussion on the agenda all those in favor signify by saying I I I opposed same sign agenda is approved uh next is the approval of the minutes this is the minutes from our July 10 2024 design review board meeting I could have a motion and second motion to approve second uh moved by Lori and seconded by Wendy any discussion uh yes please uh I would like to clarify a comment on the first project that 129 South University um item number four about the brick column and radius um it's written as being uh very tight transparency might be good uh I would like to add in there my comment was really that um that that area might um benefit from an inset and not just transparency but push back so however you want to word it I think this was um drafted by Julia um but I'd like that added please uh believe that that was circulated by email for final comment it has been provided to the petitioner team so we could we could send that to them um okay well I I thought that was what my comment was okay so had to make it clear when we were in the meeting um Julia that was your project that you brought to drb correct yes okay and we uh did circulate that for comments from the board members correct yes we circulated the draft okay and then and then after a week as is protocol uh assumed final with no comments well I missed that so that's okay uh would it be acceptable to you Miss Ramson if we uh clarified that comment in an email to the petitioner sure okay we will do that uh instead of a a just because of the delay it seems like it would be challenging to update all of the various copies and where they live I would um rather add that clarification as an update to the like I say I thought that was clear when I spoke to them but um it was more than just transparency so fine got it uh did you hear what the uh correction was Julia Miss Shake did not because I Was preparing something for this meeting but if let me open up a tab to note that okay uh yeah so it was item number four on the 129 um South University uh just making sure that one of the options is actually an inset or um rather than just transparency at the corner thank you thanks and I will be more attentive next time when the minutes come through that is good to point out because for the um uh draft recommendation summary that staff will prepare for this meeting it will also be circulated by email because of the staggered nature of the board you do not always have meetings that are consecutive so we had to find another way to finalize your recommendations without waiting four months or so or conveni a meeting just for the purpose of approving minutes uh so that is how we've uhi that you do you will actually have a meeting next month um however we'll still plan to circulate those for comment via email so please look out for that email from U Miss Shake thank you and just to just to clarify Wendy and to the rest of the the members what we do it's I think it's about a week after this meeting we circulate a draft letter where we summarize the comments um from the the members uh we circul circulate that to the members before we finalize it and share that with the applicant so be on the lookout in about a week yeah so I don't suppose there's any way to I mean in essence what we're what we're the reality of what we're dealing with is that our comments are going out to the developers to the development team um as though uh I guess with the understanding that we're going to approve that at our next meeting because I think we have to approve minutes in a public forum um so yeah if uh if you if you can pay attention to what comes to you in email and if you have any objections um just make sure you copy all when you not objections but um clarification or whatever um just get that back to everybody at the time that the the emails are circulated then that way they can go to the developer and and then they've got everything so uh without objection um send that to the uh development team and um we can move on I guess we have to vote on the approval of the minutes so all those in favor favor signify by saying I I I Poe same sign and the minutes are approved uh picking up Wendy's comment uh Now we move on to public comment uh section uh Britney at this time we have no comments or hands raised all right um to speak during public comment please use the raised hand feature in Zoom or call 9412 there will be another public comment section at the uh later on in this meeting and now Now we move on to regular business uh Dr 24-4 303 Detroit Street uh [Music] Julia thank you was just promoting our panelists so this is point of clarification for the agenda this is Introduction of the project I present my staff report after the applicant presents correct yes this is a project at 303 Detroit Street a proposed plan to convert this site from an office retail building to a primarily residential building construction includes building an additional floor on top of the existing buildings adding balconies to the east side and creating aart parking garage in the basement accessed by rotating automobile elevator from a new driveway off North Fourth Avenue the additional 10,000 square ft of floor area features glass and aluminum curtain walls to produce apparent mass and contrast from the existing industrial aesthetic the site is located at the South End of the North Fourth Catherine Detroit block zoned D2 downtown interface and Cary Town character overlay district and secondary Street type designation uh and just as a note um that this is uh some additions on existing space existing building is a a little bit more than 30,000 square ft so it's an addition of about 10,000 square fet so the the ground floor and then uh two to or three to four floors depending on the two buildings that are connected uh will remain primarily intact with some modifications and most of the work will be be done in addition on the roof of these two buildings with that um I will turn the the floor over to the applicant team uh we have two representatives and other Representatives available from the applicant team um to present their project you're muted Mark oh Julia there y yes can you hear me yes oh okay and video guess I'm on so uh I'm not quite sure how we're going to handle the referencing here will you be allowing us to share our screens with us to show the graphics are are you going to be doing that juliia no you should be able to do you not see the the share green button on the bottom yeah I'm gonna have Jim share that and he will is he um promoted to speak also yeah okay all right great okay so um I'm just going to give a little uh recap here of Design Concepts and what our ideas were and then I'm going to have Jim as the project architect discuss some of the other features uh in more detail but uh if we go to sheet A4 Jim um which is the um exterior views of the um the old agricultural Implement Hall and the the Edition uh when you know we've looked at this building for a long time since the building across the street the flat iron building next directly across the street took a lot of its design cues from a heavy concrete base that held up um the uh the other four floors and uh some of the other sheet metal elements were Incorporated next door now the agricultural hall building uh was built 1856 and it was substantially renovated over the years with many improvements including widening the windows to accommodate all aluminum sash we think sometime in the mid-50s something like that so that's why the windows are not quite proportional to the uh the width is is a not an 1856 kind of uh demonstration of how you would do a window like that uh and then in 198 8 when the new uh Edition was added designed by Frederick Herman uh the existing building was substantially upgraded structurally uh the footings were underpinned more steel was added to reduce the spans on the floors so right now we have a quite robust 1850s building the parut has been rebuilt so we we're able to accommodate more loads on this building than we uh with normally be able to without sub substantial structural work plus we have very good bearing in this area with uh the gravel uh outwash Marine plane so it's uh the pounds per square foot can easily accommodate an additional floor on both buildings um I think uh one of the things that uh we looked at we looked at what was the importance of this facade here on the right where the the Garden Court is The Silo ESS stair Tower and how that related to the farmers market building and that's become it's become a very important part I think of the farmers market um experience is to walk by this and so uh one of our early objectives was to look at how we can preserve this as much as possible and in fact we are doing very little except for some pedestrian accessways uh that will affect The Pedestrian experience to this level and it's been vacant for quite a while when sweet lorain's went out of business there was a business there but these Courtyards will be uh made more active with um Courtyards uh off of the lower level now if let's go to sheet A4 Jim or M sorry A10 that's the first floor plan [Music] um I'm on A1 oh you're on A1 oh okay yeah um so one of the one of the early questions was how are we going to handle uh parking uh pedestrian access elevators and services and there was a lot of discussion among the design team as to whether we do it off of the uh Detroit Street side or do we do it off the Fourth Avenue side and we came to the conclusion that it'd be better to preserve the Garden Court and the experience on the Detroit Street side and not um encumber that with a vehicle package drop offs pickup and loading vehicular access so this led us to decide to create a new parking entrance where we have an access to a carousel parking system that will accommodate 12 cars as well as a drop off and a new elevator that's located uh in the slot between the two buildings and of course uh as you can see the blue common area there is uh a kind of continuation of that existing uh pass through now that you walk through it will be closed off and uh but but but residents will be able to uh walk through the building or be able to walk out towards the farmers market or walk on to fourth hav or walk uh to the elevator go down to a level and call for their vehicle to be U delivered on the spot without going into the garage so that's Jim can explain how that works when we look at the cross-sections a little bit later so once we got that issue sort of out of the way then it became a matter of working out the other details so going to let Jim sort of start from there and walk you through some of the other features of the building okay so um at uh at the ground plane our goal was to um provide a vehicle access from Fourth Avenue and this is going to be done at grade so this uh garage area is halfway between the the basement area and the first floor area it accommodates um a carousel system that um has a turntable in front of it so we'll be able to drive in and uh load your vehicle in through the center of the Carousel and it will stack uh 12 vehicles in there uh and then we have one Ada handicap space which is required by code that's also accessed off the turntable and so when you back out the turntable can either turn 180 degrees or 90 degrees and then your vehicle will exit out uh facing the street um we decided to put a loading area um we decide to have the main lobby because currently there's no um handicap access from Gray to this building the existing um elevator is is a 2500 lb series and smaller than will handle a gurnie for this building when it was put in in 1988 so we're accommodating a new elevator and a new lobby area that's at grade that will um be accessed from the Fourth Avenue side um and then um we're doing packages for um Amazon and uh the corridor itself will be blocked off currently right here there's a stair to the basement um exterior outdoor stair um which collects a lot of debris and stuff and um so it's um we're going to try and eliminate that access point so that we can have better security of the building and stuff we're going to maintain the exess here that's currently here and the entrance here for um going up the grade slopes considerably it slopes five feet from front to back and we'll have Suites on the main floor the existing silos being maintained we've got some balconies that we're going to be accessing from those Suites um the next floor up the only change here again will be Just An Elevator Shaft and the vehicle shaft with some additional balconies on the building we're going to do some hung metal balconies um on the brick uh veneer for the white swan building um some balconies in the gaps between the two buildings that are there currently we're just trying to maintain the same original look of the building that was there all along same thing on the third floor hasn't nothing there fourth floor here we're going to add a story on top of the white swan building uh it's going to be accessed from the elevator um we are going to do this this Suite it's a it's going to be a half a flight up from the original fourth floor because the parit wall is so high on the White Swan building we're going to have to offset this story so it's going to have its own entrance from the uh from the elevator on the fifth floor we're going to add on to the 1988 Edition with a two Suites up there um private balconies on opposite Corners um and then a common space with the stairs there in the elevator access so the um in the elevation we're maintaining everything that's original to the building the only elements that are changing are the upper elements we decided to do um with the fourth floor story here the stair access and the elevator access and then another uh fifth Story up here on the U 1980 Edition this large element here is our car carousel that's facing the farmers market parking lot U balconies will be added and they're independent of the building except for the the hung balconies that are on the White Swan building uh we're going to maintain a glazing up there for the upper Penthouse Suites and uh do a a light metal either gray or some some kind of light metal this will be the access for the garage on Fourth Avenue with a man door there that's accessible this will be our new canopy here that we're adding as far as an element uh to our lobby that's at grade on Fourth Avenue and this is the uh perspective from Detroit Street looking towards that area we're going to the only thing we're going to be doing as far as a change to the building uh we we have to um provide new windows for the for the faad we're going to redo the glazing system because it's failing um based on its 40-year life um the windows here that were originally in here are an older series oning with the fixed glazing we're going to go back to more of a traditional window that will be in keeping with the white swan building so all these windows will be replaced with new modern Windows system and this is the section uh storage is down here um Car Care cell will sit in here and then the new Suites up here on the upper story uh everything else is existing will'll be just uh gutting the Interiors of The Office Buildings removing all the metal stud partitions and providing new spaces there for residents that's uh basically the uh everything that is happening to the building yeah I might just add that the Triangular balcony um uh Arrangement um uh is on the on the new 88 Edition is a kind of a reflection of the the angle of Detroit Street so while whereas the old building assembly did not reflect the diagonals of Detroit Street this balcony is a small reflection of of those uh the directional aspects of Detroit Street also there is a signpost not shown in this uh rendering that's on the existing building that identifies the building and it is a similar Arrangement um it's right above the U the courtyard you can see it in on another sheet I think I we went by that earlier that's which one so that's I don't know how we're doing that's pretty much a wrap up of kind of our um project and I guess we are open to questions if that's appropriate now or I'm not sure what the procedures are oh thank you thank you for that uh so next we should listen to the staff report um Julie you can present that to us I presume thank you Jim and Mark for your presentation um give a brief summary of the staff report that was shared as the applicant stated the site is two connected buildings situated at the southern end of the block border by North Fourth Avenue Catherine Street and Detroit Street uh primary work in the 10,000 ft proposed Edition is additional space above the existing buildings uh on the existing roofs above the existing roofs with the addition of triangular-shaped balconies in metal format uh in various locations around the building and the addition of the carousel parking system staff identified a number of design guidelines uh that could be especially pertinent to this project uh specifically in the categories of urban pattern and form open space parking driveways and service areas building massing Street Edge entries materials building operational systems sustainability and building elements and noting that this is in the Cary Town character District and these are uh Street type uh secondary Street designation so as a transition space uh staff an in staff's analysis SE notes that as a trans transition space between downtown and residential areas of ant Arbor KY Town primarily contains two to four story residential buildings and commercial buildings including a number of single family historic homes while the proposed 60ft height of the building follows the guidelines it's worth noting that there are some lower height structures nearby however given the building's location near the Cary Town shops across the market space uh and the ongoing new construction in the area specifically directly across Detroit Street the height May soon be contextually appropriate the design follows the downtown district guidelines for buildings that will be larger than some surrounding structures the facade is broken up and a smaller building modules with varying Heights balconies and building materials including the fact that it is two interconnected buildings staff find this street wall to be appropriate scale for pedestrians the project includes open space primarily through private and semi-private plazas and balconies however the design should consider not only the future residents but also pedestrians and the building's interaction with the adjacent Farmers Market uh K Town particularly directly uh directly from adjacent to the KY Town shops an AR in an arbor Farmers Market is a very popular location for tourists and visitors the proposed building has a brick o and noting that another neighborhood popular neighborhood Gathering space uh will soon be demolished across the street in Bron Court the proposed building has a brick exterior staff finds that this is appropriate given the material context of the neighborhood and the prevalence of brick both on the buildings and in the streets themselves as uh the streets couple of the streets adjacent to the building in which the building fronts are actually paved in Brick additions on the upper floors cladded in glass provide a distinctive break from the lower level design in a contemporary way the proposed construction of balconies in metal accent the existing Silo feature which will be maintained uh conclud it's the staff summary thank you Julia uh so now anybody on the board want to jump in and uh make comment okay we're done thank you guys uh I'll start out by making a couple comments I guess when sorry interrupt you Jeff but Lori actually did raise her hand oh sorry I didn't uh we're okay was the last thumbnails are so small that I'm gonna have to get my glasses on go ahead Lori no problem um just a a few things um happy to see you know a different life brought to these buildings in this location um my questions are primarily around accessibility understanding that there isn't a lot of uh interior program um you know that doesn't send you up the elevator to different floors but I'm I'm wondering about um the decision not to add an accessible ramp along Detroit Street um where the existing stairs have been kind of reduced in place of landscape it seemed like you have the ability to play have a ramp there and have it not be required to use the elevator we know how elevators Co in and out of commission and that seems like it would be beneficial for folks with um accessibility needs even to the first floor for that so that's my my first question and I'll give I'll give you my other and then you can kind of respond to both um I'm I'm a little curious about the decision to keep the lower Tes and I I know you know with the his toric uh not historic the more recent use of the building and the restaurant at the bottom that had some value but from a Street Experience standpoint and the ability to kind of enliven the corridor I I'm personally wondering about being more advantageous to have that as a near at grade or at grade um open space that was more usable and accessible to more people even even within the um Community that's living in the building but also for the adjacent Community there's quite a bit of space around this building and in the downtown area there actually usually isn't right we have kind of a sidewalk and we have a building and then we don't have much left and I'm just curious about the you know the benefit of that space the usability of it the comfort of it and and whether that real estate might be more valuable if brought up to grade um for more to use and appreciate thank you uh uh Jeff should we respond to that now yes please okay um so we have discussed internally among the design team exactly what the a uh barrier free ramp uh how that would work or whether a lift would be installed uh presently we have a landscaped area that you can see on the uh first floor uh sheet and there is enough room there to do a Switchback pedestrian ramp uh in that landscaped area so that is a possibility that we're working on internally to see how the geometry of all of that would work or whether we would go to a small uh lift someplace uh within the building or just under the cover of the building so that is something we working on right now we don't have that shown on these drawings but it would be a fairly minimal um impact on the site we think because we sort of worked out the geometries on that the other question is uh ever since I saw that Garden Court down there it's getting quite striking to me to look down into a space and um seldom do you have the opportunity without enormous expense to create a kind of a sunken garden that would open up a whole side of the building for residential or uh some sort of commercial space to get light and air down there and and we looked at this as as a real benefit to this space as providing light and air and access to the gardens down there it would be a nice um feature at the grade level it would be more of a public space but uh it's it's been our choice to think about using that as a designing enhancing feature for a future residence or a future business a live work kind of arrangement might be a nice thing in that lower level Jim do you have anything to add to that or um not really I mean we've looked at um the possibilities of putting a ramp on Detroit Street that would bring you up um currently there's Concrete in this area here um as it um and it slopes up from the farmers market uh and goes into this walkway area here and currently I don't think it meets the Ada guidelines but um because it was done in the 80s but we could um possibly put in a ramp system that would get you up to the walkway um without having to go through the elevator and up to the common space we we could we've investigated that um briefly and uh like Mark said we could either do it with a lift or with a a ramp system if possible so and the the courtyard space too I think we like the feature of the U daylight at the lower level and keeping that U as amenity for those for that uh basement level thank you dick thanks Jeff um so many office building owners are are really struggling right now due to leases and uh and many of them are talking about converting to residential where the demand is and and so this is a real good early conversion example for everyone I I think you've done a wonderful job with maintaining a real iconic building and especially that Silo feature and I sort of like the setting that it's in even though Lor's right it is a little underutilized maybe it's just waiting for its time I would hope but the the building is is terrific and as it is and and it's it's going to remain terrific um you've really done a good job I I had one other barrier-free um access question the the one um berf free parking space you have off the Turn Style does the driver then go back outside and walk south and forth and come in the entrance to get into the building is that how that works that was the plan um to there's a Mand door at the at the Fourth Avenue entrance you have to come out to the sidewalk and back up through the uh grade entry Lobby and then through the elevator system okay there is a stair here that's back stair but um yeah we'd have to put in a second lift um to accommodate that um handicap space I'm I'm wondering you You' put that in the best place you have to put it I wouldn't put it on Detroit Detroit Street or fourth either but it is going to be an intensified Street with the housing project to the west across forth there'll be more and more pedestrians and I I wonder about queuing space for cars and maybe if that one curb extension between the drop off area and the access to the parking could could also be queuing space um in here right there yeah just for cars waiting to go in while one is is coming out and it's going through whatever it goes through to make that happen it just seems like that's going to be a spot where it'll take a while for a person to egress and to enter and um given that there's only one door um so it seems like queuing space there would make sense and and more might be helpful uh but other than that I it it's really well done and I think you've done a great job thank you dick Wendy you have hear hands up hand up sure um question about um so the driveway is being relocated understood but there's a curb Cup right now where I think the lobby is going to be where you have trash collection so where are you um storing the trash for pickup our trash mitigation plan is the same is what we did next door we are going to um have um housekeeping come in and collect the trash from the corridors and take it offsite to um South State Street Commons where it will be disposed of and the dumpsters at the South State Street Commons and the recycling as well yeah recycling as well okay um other question is the from this um plan it looks like the farmers market shed comes right up to the property and so uh will that continue to be an option for pedestrians to kind of cut that corner in the Northeast um once these become condos will there be a a certain sensitivity to people um traveling over uh that property um like is happening now yeah we we did keep a little bit of concrete space there at the end of the shed um we did U we're Rel Landscaping it there we wanted to create a buffer both between the residents of the of the building and between the farmers market but yet be sympathetic to trying to provide some circulation space back out onto the Detroit street from the end of the shed but there's not an easement there now no there is well so there is one easement on the site and that easement is for the Detroit Edison that um follows here so this will be a maintained power easement um but so that's kind of over the Detroit Edison power easement um for the Transformer that's on site but there's no granted easement for anything beyond that great thank you thank you lendy camera um I probably am repeating a lot of what um my colleagues have already said I you know this this uh building uh the the white swan plus the addition that forer did is a project that I often tout as a wonderful example of preservation and beautiful beautiful beautifully done addition um that complement the historic building and I was a little nervous um when I heard uh that this was the subject of this meeting but um I was relieved when I heard that Mark rder was doing it and um very um just to Echo what dick was saying it's just a I think you know beautifully done you've been very sensitive um in um in in and how you've touched the white building I'm have to say I'm not too fond of the balconies um I mean I understand you're trying to provide some open space for those units um uh the two balconies on the White Swan building um they they look like they're sort of hanging there on each side um but you know I'm not sure I have any suggestions for how to do that differently and um I like that you didn't touch the front um I'm I just I think I think you did a you know really wonderful job um I do wonder how you're dealing with vibration and noise from that elevator for that unit that is sort of over it over the elevator it's um just curious about that um that seems a like a quite a challenge um I also just want to mention on the gardens um as probably as many of you I spent a lot of time at sweet lra and ate in that garden and um it's just a lovely feeling being down there um it's very light and um you know I think I think it worked great as as Gardens for a a for the occupants of those units um you know so somewhat like a I don't know New York you know where you go by and see you're Boston all the sunen gardens um they work really well and so I think that could be very successful um I also would love to see a ramp um on that east side and um I don't I can't remember what that ramp is like even though I walk up it almost every day but um is there any way you know that um I don't know if it's something that could be kept um or grandfathered in um I don't know or maybe it's not in the right spot but um yeah I think that's all comments I had great job thank you Cameron thank you Tamara bill maybe this getting by the way I I I like this whole design I've love that building Rick Herman did a great job in designing that I've always admired it he was a very careful architect he reflects a lot of the original building and the projection agree with all the Architects on on board it's very well done maybe it's getting too much in the weeds but as a property owner and thinking going through the the planning process while it's a clever solution in uh collecting the TR and Recycling and off sight the question is what can happen in the future if State Street Commons is not available if this is disjoint uh is is the planning department and particularly the the folks that are person that are in charge of trash collection going to be comfortable with this offsite solution if there isn't some way to assure that that system will be in place somehow or other so it doesn't end up being a trash collection internally going out under the street Etc sometime in the future what what consideration is being given to that um that's a hard question to answer uh in the future maybe Jim has some ideas about that but um it's something that we think that the whole DDA should address in very very Urban situations because trash collection has become a major issue for smaller buildings that just don't have the off-site ability to get a huge garbage truck of 26 foot overhead clearance above it lifting uh you know trash containers overhead and dumping them this was something that was requested of us in the adjacent building we we spent a couple of months trying to accommodate a complete TR crash truck inside the building and came to the conclusion that it was going to be impossible to do so we worked out this arrangement with the the owner but I think it would be great if the DDA could come up with a solution for all all of these sort of situations uh and it allows for recycling as well as maybe compostable recycling as well as just trash there that where you could you have the opportunity to do that better than I think the the garbage truck now I don't really know what might happen in terms of the development agreement that was written on the other building and the owners should uh I don't know if they can respond to that I think they're listing in maybe MAV or the Builder uh uh here on construction I don't know if they're um available or online is that I just allowed the contractor to uh the engineering team to to reply hi can you hear me we can I believe hi right hi thank you hey this is Tom fit Simmons um I'm a partner in the project and um and Bill uh specifically we're required to put on easement on the uh the uh South State Commons so there's basically it's it's it's going to run with land I mean we've encumbered another property for trash so it's never going to go away good good answer thank you no problem thank you for that Tom Lori you have your hand up yeah um I did just want to note um especially with a kind of a switch to uh residential use possibly the um ability to look at landscape surrounding the building a little bit more closely would be lovely to kind of enhance I know this is further down the line for you but you know enhance the beds that are already existing but I would love to see an expansion of landscape and removal of some pavement on the south end adjacent to Unit 102 um those stairs if they were only accessed to the South you could landscape all around them and create a bit more of a identity as a kind of more of a softer neighborhood residential um use there and and reduce some um Hardscape and incorporate some permeability and a little bit ability to have more Lush landscape around that corner so as much as we can remove of some of that Hardscape and soften it um especially within the property lines that would be wonderful yeah we can look into that we've we've discussed that internally is about removing some of the sidewalk that's on that space there right without um interfering with too much circulation yeah might require some handrail reconfigurations or something but other than that that' be great thank you okay thank you Lori well I suppose that bill and Dick and both relate to this maybe better than some of the other members on the board but after you've been around a while um this this building um the part that was designed by Rick Herman in uh in 1988 was built by Joe Neil but my company finished every single one of the Interior Suites in this project starting with the an arbor Observer on the first and second floor of the uh White Swan building all the way through to doing sweet lra in the basement and so it feels funny to uh see it come around when I first saw this thing I thought oh my God what are they doing to this building but I have to agree with other members here that this is a this is a great solution and the idea that it's changing from what used to be all offices and a little bit of retail to now all residential especially given what's going on in the uh in the uh office rental environment um I don't know it's kind of encouraging um I have a couple questions well first of all the idea of the the car elevator is really intriguing we don't have anything like that in an arbor so I'm going to be fascinated to watch how that goes I just came back from a trip to uh Edinburgh and I had to get into a little tiny elevator to go down into the basement of this Downtown hotel and I mean it was the most CL claustrophobic experience of my life and uh so it'll be this one is bigger uh for sure but uh it's going to be interesting to see how residents respond to an operation like that um just it's it's interesting um question for you are you getting rid it looks like you're getting rid of the ganged pyramid Skylight detail that sort of in the uh inside of the uh L of the building um there's a whole gang of pyramid skylights there there there are some small skylights for the basement area and uh we just didn't think that the um that space could be utilized for more open space for a balcony for this sweet 102 at grade level without um taking over other Green Space um and we didn't think the light to the basement was necessary through those U skylights uh if we maintain the lower uh we maintain the Terrace itself so that that's going to become outdoor um seating area for for the ground floor Suite so if I understand this correctly um these are two story Suites um 101 and 102 are lower level and um main level Suites that's our intent is to possibly have um a main living area with um a lower um additional um sleeping area or bedroom spaces with a a wreck space down below so yeah it would be um a twole suite there on at the grade plane yeah uh I'm not totally geeked about losing the skylights but I mean it it does present a challenge as to how you get natural light back into those lower level spaces that are tucked way way back uh there in the corner um and especially considering that uh suet 101 already has its lower level Plaza area so um just a question we're adding an area way over here um so that we can get some more natural daylight into the basement area down here um that was some of our intent um so we're looking at the other area ways are scattered around the building to see what we can do as far as bringing natural light in good um while we're up in that area where the Triangular balconies are I I mean from an aesthetic point of view I I think they're they're good and so forth but from a practical standpoint um as far as how they function for the units I mean if you're going to put a group of people out on that triangular balcony um you got two you know sort of wedge shaped areas where you know maybe one person can be isolated I guess I I I guess the question I'm asking is is that the right shape for the balcony's uh understanding that you're trying to provide some outdoor living space to those units um which I applaud I just um question whether the Triangular form uh it might serve the aesthetic function uh from the standpoint of how the building looks but does it really function well for how the residents might use it so that's just a question I don't object to the Triangular form elevation wise um we we've had some interesting experiences with the two flat iron buildings we designed one at the other end of Detroit Street which has essentially triangular balconies that jut out and then the Triangular balconies on the building next door and people come up with inventive ways we found to furnish those you know like uh I'm not exactly what it sure it is but a lot of times you create uh a space that's a little unusual and people come up with real creative ways to use it and so that's what I'm hoping happens here um the car elevator the car elevator thing uh the the development team actually went out and rode these things and used these things where they're manufactured in pits in Pittsburgh gu that right Jim yeah there's a double unit in Pittsburgh being currently used um um by the same company that we're going to be purchasing it from so we went uh the developer team went and tested it out and looked at the safety features and how it functioned and uh you know it's it's virtually quiet you can barely hear it um 12 trays hold vehicles are all going to have um EV charging on them so it's it's a it's an impressive system that we think it's completely automated once they're on the on the lift the uh driver exits and um it goes to its respective space and stays there and then when you come down you essentially have an app that recalls your car and it comes down to that level and you get on and drive it out go on the turntable so you're not actually in a confined basement like space at any time yeah I I'm fascinated by it and I'm really looking forward to seeing how it works um the I wrote a sustainability report for the um planning submission and um one of the things that you have to compare this with this uses about, 1300 square feet of space for the turntable the handicap space and the uh actual Carousel car elevator and if we were to put 12 cars out on a parking lot it would use 10 times that much space you know with Paving concrete so from uh an environmentally um from an environmental standpoint this uses far less steel concrete uh it uh doesn't need internal lighting it doesn't need Heating in the space it uses far fewer materials so we think it's it's a great sustainable kind of way to handle vehicle parking without under pound underground parking lot garages which in themselves are very expensive to do so not that this is cheap but so just do you do you know off the top of your head mark what kind of the cost comparison say per parking space is for a system like this compared to say I mean obviously it's going to be more than a surface parking lot but uh or a basement parking structure just I I'm just curious you know what kind of cost premium does something like this carry the de the Milling development te is working through that right now and it's a little hard to attribute costs because you it's it's a little bit like doing an underground parking garage you're supporting the building so how much of of the structure do you allocate you know to the underground parking garage but I think there wouldn't do this if we didn't think it was a competitive way to handle Vehicles so that's about the only way I can say it right now maybe Tom has a something to add to that Tom you got your hand up yeah I'm sorry can you hear me yes yeah uh uh so specifically on the on the clost side they tell us uh there's a number of different automated Solutions out there right now this is just one of them this they projected around $30,000 of parking space 25 $335,000 a parking space depending on how it's configured what uh features and options you get um I I I personally went to Pittsburgh and test this out and the reason I really like the this Carousel style is I I don't like parking and parking lots or parking structures I'm I'm big I'm tall it's it's it's narrow and tight but this is is a double car wide but at the where you where you enter and exit at the first floor because people don't ride up this they they get on and off um you don't people don't actually use it there's only one car wide so you actually have four and a half to five feet of space on either side for your doors to get in and out which is really nice uh and then they're automated gates for safety so once you exit your vehicle um you have lots of room to get in and out of your car take groceries or or packages in out of your car exit the gates they close and when it senses that you're out of there for a safety feature then it goes into operation it also operates both ways so uh can go up and down either way they um we experienced and they told us that the time uh from you know trying to get your car to to it being ready to get in is is no more than in 90 seconds at any point so um between that and the technology they having these things is all controlled in apps as well as just directly through your car we were pretty impressed with the whole system Mr chair did you realize your two hands raised I see that um Lori yeah mine was sort of like never went down but I did have one simple comment about the balconies which is it could just be the location of the doors being kind of thoughtfully moved to one side or the other that would free up some uh different uses of the real estate on those so it might be something to think about um that's all thank you Lori and uh I did have hand raised although um maybe the time a lotted to it elaps do you mind if I make a comment go ahead uh appreciate the discussion a very engaged group as always when you provide comments uh staff are doing we're doing our best behind the scenes to take notes so that we can resmar them for you and then turn them into your your final uh memo of recommendations for the petitioner team and and one thing that would be really helpful to us as you go through your discussion is to cite what area of the design guidelines your comments relate to or if it's unrelated to the design guidelines that way we can organize that in our report uh one thing I would just like to remind the board of is that there is a very extensive review for items such as physical accessibility Ada uh uh solid waste and um transportation impacts associated with projects and those will be uh looked at by our colleagues um in a variety of other departments so we want to also ensure not only that the comments that are related specific to the design guidelines we capture that accurately but also that we don't generate potentially conflicting advice from this board that may later be uh given to the applicant or the petitioner from uh staff that specialize in those areas so wanted to make that comment um open to any feedback about it but it would really help us uh do our job thank you all right thanks for that and Lori you still have your hand up or is that an old uh hand raising I back up only to say that I'm happy to retract the comment about the lower level use spaces and uh re um maintain for the minutes that that that's an appropriate use of the lower level Garden space as an amenity to the users if we want to kind of retract that um inconsistency the one thing I will say about accessibility is meeting that the letter of the law is not always the same as creating Equitable and fully um kind of uh uniform accessibility to the building and the structure so I think some of the comments start to address the Nuance of that um requirements versus quality of experience um that is I think a a portion of what the board brings to the conversation I would love to believe that our staff also moved Beyond technical requirements to quality of experience so uh let it uh sit well with everyone here that we very much care about those things we take them very seriously and always do nudge our petitioners to look for opportunity to go above and beyond thank you okay any other comments okay hearing none uh thank you very much for the presentation uh to the folks at MV D and um we look forward toh seeing this project progress thanks thanks for the presentation patik you all for the presentation and thank you uh to the members for your uh insightful uh comments on a number of different features I would like to just briefly uh summarize uh many of the points that I heard to to make sure I'm capturing the The Contours of your observations and suggestions and comments uh there's an emphasis on potential inclusion of public gathering space importance of pedestrian access at the northeast corner adjacent to the farmers market ability to look at landscaping around the building especially around Unit 102 to create more residential identity by removing Hardscape removing the skylights raises a challenge for some units receiving natural light aesthetically the Triangular balconies are good but functionally uh a group of people in a triangular format may be difficult perhaps the door location could free up space and some other concerns mentioned include consider queuing space near the parking access entrance for cars an emphasis on accessibility and new improvements uh specifically a desire to see a a ramp on the east side and consider other possibilities for the low lower level Garden space than potentially just as amenities for units did I miss anything or um capture things uh the details correctly or is anything you would like to add uh or modify um I expressed a concern about the uh usability of the Triangular balconies um and marks clarification that experience with other buildings um uh certainly experience uh counts for a lot and uh the fact that they uh uh see no problems with that in other locations um that's sort of reassuring or some somewhat assuring to me that the Triangular balcony issue is not a problem for me and therefore I don't see any reason to include it in the notes which is a long way of saying that uh it's not there and I don't think it should be there board member Singleton you also mentioned the Triangular balconies yeah I was simply saying that the location of the door within those balconies could be considered to provide more usability of the space yeah you have your hand up I I do the in in spirit of Hank's comment the section in the guidelines related to parking and driveways I talked about the curve extension on Fourth hav and and we may want to reduce that to cre queuing space and U circulation space as one person's waiting to get into the parking Turn Style and someone is coming out I think there there may be some long Waits on Fourth hav that could create issues so it'd be nice to have a curbside queuing space there and that that would come from our parking and driveway section of the guidelines thank you for that clarification any other comments okay Julia thank you for that thank you uh item G moving on to unfinished [Music] business uh there's nothing under that item is there anything that we need to uh talk about uh [Music] Communications various Communications to design review boards do we have any Communications um thought I looked at this I think your audio is not working Miss Alexander but we do not have communications thank you all right thank you uh now is our second uh section for public comment yes thank you um at this time no participants or attendees have their hands raised okay um I guess before we adjourn anybody got anything uh to talk about yeah Hank I was wondering if you could update us on our fate I'm I know we went to Planning Commission but I didn't see that meeting uh sure this will be several months away yet I can share if you'll bear with me just one moment I could look up the exact date if you're curious uh the topic was recently circulated uh with the Planning Commission at their working session that would have been the September 10th working session uh so if you're curious about the status of discussions that's the latest one that I know of those meeting minutes and also recording should be available uh through the city website and CTN resources um but it as it stands no formal uh language text Amendments have been forwarded or agenda once those are we will certainly let you know keep you apprised of any dates but I don't have a specific date when a text Amendment would go before the Planning Commission yet and then they would make a recommendation to city council so we will keep you updated but the September meeting was um presented by manager Leonard that's the update I have all right thank you and thanks everybody Lori I just notice you have your hand up again sorry I just wanted to note that I did listen on that meeting and will note that there was very little mention of the design review board there was a lot of ground to cover in the discussion around review periods and public input um there was one voice from the community that uh at the end of his minutes mentioned quickly by the way I think design report has value there was another um commissioner that um mentioned the same but it was maybe all of 15 seconds within the course of the meeting so just wanted to let those of you who weren't able to do that know that thank you thank you anybody else well thanks everybody for coming um and um we'll look forward to the uh email from staff uh so they can get it so we can look at it and then they can get out to the developers so uh if there's nothing further uh if I can have a motion to adjourn so moved moved by dick second second by Tamara all those in favor signify by saying I I thanks very much for coming everybody we're adjourned thank you for
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e e e and I will call the meeting to order just so everyone knows our president Stephen Ray will be a little bit late so um I will be running the meeting I'm Bob Delina the the board Clerk and uh to start if I could get a motion to approve the agenda I'll make a motion to approve the agenda okay we have a motion a second please second okay first and second all those in favor say I I I opposed okay it passes four to zero we have a very special guest with us this evening uh from Ellsworth Elementary to help us with the Pledge of Allegiance and to lead us through the Pledge of Allegiance is Riley Baker so where's Riley Ry come out up here you can stand right up here in the front everybody please stand and if you face the flag and you can start whenever you're ready and we'll all join in okay I Ali to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all right thank you Riley okay so we need to approve the minutes from the last meeting so can I have a motion to approve the minutes I'll make a motion to approve approve the minutes um September 11 2024 meeting minutes as presented okay thank you Shelby second second okay Jennifer any discussion on the minutes okay all in favor please say I I I okay opposed I will abstain since I was not at that meeting okay uh now we're up to current events superintendent report Dr W thank you number of different uh things going on at the high school we had lisaura Garcia who's a high school senior be named to the 2024 promising Rising educator by ASU and the Mary Lou Fulton uh Teachers College um the recipients of these awards are seen as a Beacon of Hope and inspiration set the shape to uh shape the future of Education in Arizona and Beyond so we're extremely proud of Alyssa we also had two students on uh recent testing um receive uh recognition National recognition through the College Board that would be on the ACT Testing uh kenle CLA received the rural School National recognition award and Jennifer Hamilton received the first generation National recognition award so those are against students from across the country so it's a very prestigious uh those are very prestigious Awards um we also have um uh had a very successful homecoming week there with a ton of lunchtime activities uh they kind of changed things up a little bit with a u uh an event a carnival type event instead of a parade uh that was very very successful very well attended by the community a lot of hard work by the kids but also by the advisers Nick Smith and Melanie Weinstein football teams 5 in one so they're having a good season good job Lev trap and Ski Club is uh leading the Arizona clay target League um and the fall Arts Performing Arts centers uh performances have been taking place there's a number of events that you'll hear from me uh coming up with trunk Retreats uh chair booster at chs's doing one on Saturday the 26th uh Ranch they're igniting a passion for learning uh so they're working on announcing a participation of read to the finals challenge we be partner with the Arizona major events host committee to bring this engaging program to our school to motiv our our kids uh to uh work with reading uh at CCS they have after the first quarter graduated three more uh students um and those are early graduates in 2025 so that's a positive they have 400 class is completed uh a chance to celebrate with those kids that made the completion right before the break uh Miss Greaves uh received a Desert Schools Financial Credit Union adopt a teacher Grant and they recently uh Mr rker one of their teachers helped them celebrate Sandra Dale Conor Civics day uh which goes around the state um the Harmon Hawks are soaring in second quarter they'll have their attendance Awards assembly uh here on the 16th those uh students achieving 95% attendance are higher in quarter one will enjoy a glow glow dance uh they're also going another trunk retreat at Harmon on the 29th so you got the 26th now you got the 29th I think there's some others coming up uh they'll also continue their partnership they're continuing with their partnership with the Central Christian Church to celebrate character Council Awards in November Ellsworth uh is also doing a whole lot of things upcoming events include again an honors recognition assembly this is October 11th uh October 18th students will light up the night with a neon dance a spooky stem night and trunk ATT treat so they have a lot going on in the 18th so in the community now we got the 18th uh we're picking up the days you pick it right you could take your child out to Halloween every day before Halloween um lastly costume yeah lastly the costume parade is on the 31st Middle School sports are doing extremely well both girls volleyball and boys baseball teams have advanced to the finals uh cross country program is continuing to thrive in only its second year with shayen Heyman finishing third overall and the recent individual so strong participation there Simington held first parent teacher conferences uh of the year a lot of parents and families there their scholar or Scholastic Book Fair is also was also going on during conferences September 13th PTO kicked off the ra C raise craze fundraiser to help raise money for the school but also promote acts of kindness for all the students in the in the school and CTA um is also getting ready with their second quarter activities um they're anticipating induction into National Elementary Honor Society to celebrate student achievement leadership fifth and sixth graders will showcase understanding of civic responsibility um enhance the learning environment uh uh they'll also in involve fundraisers aimed at raising funds for new furniture and they also have the trunk Retreat which I believe is the 25th so now there's four nights um so a lot of things going on very positives I think everybody enjoyed the break but it was also uh uh a good end of the first quarter and we're really looking forward to a good second quarter thank you before we move on if I could just put my two cents in on October the 12th at our Performing Arts Center is a show called close to you or tribute to the Carpenters uh there are people from my community who are the singers in that and they are two spectacular young ladies and I my wife and I are going to the show and I would encourage you if you like Carpenters you like that kind of music to come out to the Performing Arts Center on uh October the 12th it's I believe it's this coming Saturday okay thank you thank you all right next on the agenda is uh school and staff recognition I'll do some Staff first U before we go with that we don't have it here yet there's a quiet young man who works over in that dark window over there that makes us look good every single day his name is Jacob Harding he is doing his last board meeting today he's moving back to Ohio to be closer to family um and we just wanted to take a moment to to truly thank him there's a lot of people in the district that do a lot of things behind the scenes so thank you Jacob he's a it extraordinaire and we appreciate everything he's done now for the next two groups that we're going to recognize three groups but the first two groups I do have to tell you sometimes we recognize uh a lot of our employees based on employee of the month or or uh there's a special day in the month uh but many of our employees have a lot of things going on and so in some cases we read these names they're busy in this case coaching um so so I'll read their names I think there's only one here we'll see how long we make Levi stand while I talk but I'll read their names and I want to say a little something about the coaches so one of the first people we want to recognize is Miss uh Ria baldenegro cross country coach at Colmes Middle School I don't believe she's here Mr Kobe Edwards who's baseball coach at Colmes Middle School yep he can come up and um you got the Mr Levi hogland who's the football coach at Coles High School [Applause] you guys can just stand up here for a second Mr Ed Allen volleyball coach at Colmes high school and Miss Heidi Bush basketball coach at Coles High School like I said we'll get a quick picture but like I said um at this time of year or this this time of the board meeting it's really a chance to say thank you those you that don't or have not coached many of us have uh this is one of those things where people go above and beyond to really make make a difference for your kids a lot of hours uh if you're at school if you're in a high school example you're starting school at 7 o'clock in the morning and you may not be getting home from an event or a night uh event until 9 or 10 o'clock at night to come back the next morning at 7 o'clock you're sitting there every afternoon in the hot sun or uh evenings and weekends in gyms helping your kids be successful uh it's just another part of our district we talk about a comprehensive District it's something for everybody and we have coaches that participate in lots and lots of different uh activities and it's always to help your kids get better and to help your kids follow their passions so we really do appreciate the job you do and the hours you put in and everything you do for our kids so thank you so very much thank you we also have a group of people some of them may be working too because they do the night shift which is our custodians in October 2 is National custodian day so we wanted to uh go ahead and recognize them I'll read their names again I don't know how many you here because many of them working but uh Miss Sierra Guadalupe from Ellsworth Mr rosar Rosario salguero from Harman Mr Carlos vuela from CTA and ccs [Applause] Mr Xavier Smith from Ranch Miss Zoe ogal tree from Coles Middle School Miss Gloria bond from the district office and Mr Kaden wusi from Coles high school again these are the people that generally working at night uh sometimes during the day uh and they're there for your kids they're there for our employees they're always there to help to pick up to clean up um it's a thankless job at times uh but without them being there obviously our facilities wouldn't look the way that they do look uh coming off a break where many people were resting and having a nice time they were put in extra hours to make sure that we could do some of the things you can't do when kids are there like deep cleaning and taking care of the carpeting and some of those kind of things so a lot of unsung heroes uh that we have every single day that make a difference for you and for your children and we just want to thank the custodians for everything to do so thank you very much this next group of people will also Mr or Dr Fountain and myself will do a little tag team on this one this is uh a special group this month is October is National principal uh month and so it's our way to say thank you to our leaders and so I'm going to call them all up and have them stand for a little bit while Dr Fountain says some things and I say some things and we give them a little something so Miss Tanya Loftus from Colmes High School Dr Pat gouby from comes Center for [Applause] Success Miss Laura Ridge from Colmes Middle School Miss shanana schner from Colmes Traditional Academy Santa dunker from Ellsworth [Applause] Elementary Cheryl Pierce from Harmon Elementary Peter Quinn from Ranch [Applause] Elementary and Melissa Lopez from Simington [Applause] Elementary let's make him stand up here extra long um so I get the privilege of working with these folks on a regular basis um and I we run the gamut of emotions with this group sometimes it's high fives and hugs sometimes it's tears and frustration um but the thing I'm most proud of is that each of these folks uh lead with their hearts I was just going to read a little something and then i' I've got some flowers for you so uh so this is about the principal's role so a principal is not defined by the title they hold but by the quiet ways they shape a school the decisions made in moments unseen they are the ones who set the tone before the Bell Rings Who Walk The Halls not just to oversee but to understand to be present to notice in the heartbeat of the school day they see not just the academics but the person behind the paper the teacher behind the lesson plan the child behind the challenge they make space for every voice listening when words are spoken and when silence speaks louder their work is not about rules but about building relationships strong enough to hold a community together a principle is the St hand guiding through uncertain times the vision that pushes the school forward when obstacles feel insurmountable they are the ones who see potential where others see only difficulty who Inspire not through grand gestures but through consistency trust and unwavering support and their office doors are never closed not because there are no problems to solve but because they know the real work is done in connection even the Open Spaces of collaboration and care every change they make every hard decision ripples through the lives of students teachers and families transforming not just the school but the future Beyond it so we're very proud of the work you do [Applause] what are hydranges there you go okay and now we have our uh school that we're highlighting this yeah and so we'll ask Miss dunker to come up and highlight [Applause] Ellsworth good evening members of the board Dr W Community it is my pleasure to welcome some of our students and I'm really excited for some of our students because they've been longtime Ellsworth students um some have been there since kindergarten um one since second grade and I think I'm trying to think how long Ethan kindergarten kindergarten so three since kindergarten Levi since second grade I remember I can remember when each of you started at Ellsworth and this is like our co- cohort this year in sixth grade I'm really excited about cuz we have about 40 students from this sixth grade cohort that have been at Ellsworth since kindergarten and that is the most students that we have retained since kindergarten through sixth grade and we do something special each year for them um our Eagles from the start we do recognize them when they leave Ellsworth and fly the nest and move on to their next um their next chapter of their lives and I'm really sad cuz I'm losing two families I still have one that's going to be staying with us um but I'm really sad because these are two longtime Ellsworth families and I'm really sad that we're going to be losing this year to move on to their next school but I'm going to welcome Mrs girton up our sixth grade science teacher as well as the students who will be introducing themselves and sharing a little bit with you of what they are learning in science this year [Applause] to make this balloon experiment you will need a balloon sorry I'm Riley Baker and I'm a sixth grader at Ellsworth Elementary my favorite balloon experiment is the balloon is the balloon experiment obviously to make this balloon experiment you will need a balloon when the balloon stays in place the balloon has potential energy when the air is coming into the balloon sorry that stays in place which is potential energy when the air is released the potential energy is converted and is converted into the energy of motion which is also known as kinetic energy this balloon experiment this balloon experiments experiment sorry demonstrates how energy changes in different ways and forms I really like this experiment because it helped me learn about new's Third Law so this is what they had to do in class so my name's case and Howe and I we did I chose the egg drop experiment and the law that I chose that I thought it fit was Newton's third law because Newton's third law is force and when you drop the egg without a trap without Contraption it'll just fall and it'll break but if you have a perfect Contraption it won't break and the the example for it is so we dropped these from 12 feet high so the kids had to do the whole write up the experiment draw it up design it label it and then from 12 feet high we dropped each of their experiments I did yes sorry okay do you want to continue um yes what I liked about it was we got to go home and build our own projects with whatever we wanted and use our ideas to make something to stop the egg from breaking and that's the end was your successful um Yes mine was successful I didn't mine did not break mine did not break [Applause] my name is Levi seski and I did the law that fits the egg drop the most that is Newton's third law force of emotion I think the egg drop test uh I like the egg drop test because it was a Hands-On activity how I think it was beneficial because it was a great way to introduce the concept of gravity to students to will while making science [Applause] fun my name is Ethan aosta and I am a sixth grade student in elworth elementary my speech is about this project that we did where we dropped baking powder into vinegar and water to see how when the chemicals mixed they create this bubbly effect which makes the bag explode and so this project what this project includes energy and matter the states of matter is the liquid the change of pressure the compound and the gases created and then it goes into a cause and effect motion really so I just I want to say thank you guys because without the donations werble to a [Applause] lots e [Applause] you know it's been really fun to see the students um enthusiasm they re and we all know like students really love doing the Hands-On things and they really L creating and just to see their enthusiasm for science this year increase has been it's it's really been incredible so thank you Miss girton for bringing that enthusiasm back to the classroom all right I'm going to recognize our volunteer and it is Alexis if you could come up this is Alexis G from V Sun Corporation and earlier this school year in the summer we were approached that we were nominated um we were one of two schools in the valley nominated um for their fill the truck um event that they they sponsored and so they actually did a fer truck school supply drive for us back at it was the first week of school the first Friday of the school year is when they held the event and then they came a week later and um brought 500 backpacks and many school supplies to our school and it it was at a time where like you know with budget cuts and things like they were just a lot and we were starting to hear from families that couldn't afford school supplies couldn't afford backpacks so it was a wonderful surprise for us to see all of the supplies and I provided some pictures that you can see of just the trailer that that they had and this doesn't even scratch the surface of what they provided and this is just such a wonderful partnership that we're hoping can continue not just for this but just because it meant so much to us that that we were thought of and um we were very thankful for that so I wanted to recognize via Sun for your generosity towards [Applause] us all right all right so I have three more to give out Ginger girton could you please come up here she like what am i j up here so so it is my pleasure to recognize one of our dedicated staff members Mrs girton joined Ellsworth last school year actually in last September um as a fourth grade teacher uh she moved here had was just moving here from Washington State and she has made a t tremendous impact on our school She's pass passate about learning um she has quickly established herself as a key member of our school Community this year she moved to sixth grade science social studies and she has stepped in as a team lead for the grade level she in addition to her leadership in the classroom she's embraced the role as a student council sponsor and is Tak guiding and inspiring our young leaders has really taken on that role she's also working on setting up fundraisers and coordinating science Dem science camp for our sixth grade students um she seeks out opportunities we recently found out we had I think five students um in the with the post the count panau County poster contest for the um antidrug contests that are fi one of the top 40 finalists we've never had that kind of response before um she's getting us involved in the Civics B um so we're I'm really excited about the things that she's doing and beyond that she's just been valuable resource in for us and I'm really excited about all that she does for us and for our school community so because of that I wanted to recognize her tonight with a blue Apple [Applause] all right next up Chrissy Ryder could you please come up [Applause] here Chrissy is the administrative assistant at Ellsworth and she joined our flock in January and since then she's been an incredible asset to our team um she has been able to streamline some processes um that we needed weren't badly needed as far as with her technology skills that were helpful for me she has taken over helping manage the social media pages so it wasn't just me having to do that um she has beyond that she just you know she has helped getting securing sub coverage for us um she has a few Subs that will sub for us that she's built relationships with which is invaluable if you know how that can go um she's done an amazing job and we are very lucky to have her at Ellsworth so I wanted to recognize her with a blue Apple [Applause] right my third and final one is not here she is at home she's watching from home um Miss Sarah Dixon our reading specialist now I can't say enough about Sarah her dedication and impact on our school are felt every day she's in our she's been at Ellsworth for four years this is her second year as our reading specialist and she has shown um such a commitment in supporting both students and teachers in their literacy Journey one of her contributions is she has built an incredible Bank of resources organized by skill for our teachers to use during small group instruction for reading and um this has been invaluable for our students and for our teachers that they don't have to create those resources because sometimes that's the hold up and get it you know the time needed to create those resources um she also has facilitated professional learning sessions that have been well received by our teachers and guiding our staff on how on literacy skills and how to effectively run small groups this year she has been instrumental in helping our teachers analyze their data and making informed recommendations on how to um on the phonic skills they may the students may need to Target their in and the instruction for our intervention groupings and that's been helpful for all of us so that we're really focused on what the students need um and I'm so grateful that she's just part of the Ellsworth team really she's really just has she takes initiative she SM has a smile on her face every day and this is an addition to what she does as a reading interventionist with our students so Sarah I know you're listening from watching from home so thank you for all you do and we hope you feel better [Applause] soon we'll have Dr mton come up for uh students of the month good evening good evening members of the board Dr Wyman colleagues and a warm welcome to our students and families it is always a great meeting when we are able to celebrate our students of the month tonight I am pleased to introduce to you eight students who exemplify problem solving which is a key ability to have as highlighted in the portrait of a j comes graduate students when I call your name please come up and join me at the podium I will share with the board and our audience a little bit about your problem solving abilities before you are awarded with a student of the month medal graciously provided by the comes Education Foundation we'll also have you step over and get your medal and have a picture taken all right we are going to start with Melanie Flores from comes High School [Applause] I'm hoping Melanie is watching uh the nomination regarding Melanie is Melanie is a wonderful Problem Solver she is an early graduate which is always exciting and shows such hard work comes in for extra tutoring has a job outside of school and has Straight A's in her classes so Melanie I hope you're watching and [Applause] congratulations next from com Center for Success Vincent ariso Vincent so let me tell you a little bit about Vincent a problem solver has the ability to identify key issues and barriers and find solutions to them a good Problem Solver is valued in the workforce Vincent has shown these skills and characteristics by completing countless hours of Ingenuity curriculum as well as hundreds of academic activities at CCS Vincent works well with staff and his peers has consistent attendance is respectful and able to focus on his goals of graduation awesome job Vincent again [Applause] congratulations next we'll go to comes middle school and Malaysia is that Malaysia okay come up beautiful name Malaysia [Applause] limbs not only is Malaysia a student athlete she is a defensive specialist on our volleyball team but she is an exemplary student she was also an exemplary student when it comes to problem solving in her time here at CMS she has shown such great ability to figure things out and always comes out on top of the situation in science she was on her way to mastering the subject due to the hard work and dedication the same can be said about volleyball whereas the seventh grader she won a starting spot by being able to learn and adjust to our def defensive schemes she rarely needs to hear directions more than twice and she is always the one to remind her peers where they should be if they are lost on assignments she's always on task and if she can't figure something out the first she rereads the directions or asks the friends before going straight to the teacher congratulations on being student of the month [Applause] our next student is from comes Traditional Academy Kennedy ewal and I will say get your tissues out for this Kennedy has shown many characteristics of a great Problem Solver from day one of kindergarten she has overcome many of her own problems and has proven to be helpful to be a helpful friend on the first day of kindergarten she was very sad and upset to say goodbye to her mom she had a special stuffed animal that she held on to to help her through that very tough first day as soon as she saw another student upset she immediately stopped crying and offered her special stuffed animal to help make the other student feel better she is the first to offer ideas during class Kennedy can recognize immediately when another student is having a problem and offers appropriate Solutions without taking over she has creative problem solving skills when working on a cut and paste activity recently another student in the group next to her was upset about losing the picture of a car she left her own activity to help him look for it and when they couldn't find it she drew a picture of a car on a scrap piece of paper for him so he would be able to complete the activity those are just a few examples of many of Kennedy's positive her positive attitude and helpfulness to make her an amazing classmate and friend so Kennedy [Applause] congratulations welcome to you Kenedy I'm going to call Levi up because I know he was here just a few minutes ago with Ellsworth so [Applause] Levi in class Levi demonstrated excellent problem solving skills and embodied our rise code when faced with the challenging question on his assignment he showed engagement by actively referring to the text for guidance displaying a commitment to understanding the material he also uh respected the Lear learning environment by seeking help from his peers and teacher and he fostered collaboration while maintaining Integrity by ensuring the work remained his own even after initial setbacks he persisted exemplifying a safety mindset by creating a supportive space for learning through trial and error his dedication to trying again until he succeeded reflects his his strong problemsolving ability Levi congratulations [Applause] from Harmon Elementary Emily Vasquez Emily has been selected as student of the month for her outstanding problem solving abilities she consistently approaches challenges with critical thinking creativity and persistence whether working independently or collabor collaborating with her peers she adapts to new situations evaluates options carefully and finds innovative solutions her attention to detail and determination make her an exceptional Problem Solver congratulations Emily [Applause] next I'm going to ask Kaden trod to come up from [Applause] Ranch Kaden is being recognized for his problem solving at first struggled a little bit in the cafeteria with the noise and the crowd so they decided maybe going to the C going to the office to enjoy lunch would be the best thing but it was his decision to return to the cafeteria and persevere with his problem solving so Kaden congratulations [Applause] and finally from simonon Camilia Vasquez come on [Applause] up again we're hoping camil is watching uh delighted to announce that Camila has been selected as our second grade student of the month for her exceptional problem solving skills she consistently assists others thinks critically through ideas and approaches challenges with collaborative Spirit her ability to analyze situations and seek effective Solutions is impressive she's open-minded demonstrates Hands-On practice that enhances her learning she's thoughtful in considering others ideas before coming to solution she also exhibits outstanding communication collaboration and Leadership skills her Hands-On approach to learning allows her to analyze situations effectively and seek Solutions with with an open mind it's inspiring to see her practice these skills daily this recognition not only highlights her achievements but also sets a wonderful example for her fellow peers Camila has truly exemplified the qualities and values of a jom's United school district's portrait of a graduate let's give yes let's give her a hand and let's give a hand let's give a hand again to all of our students of the month and thank you for for joining us tonight we will take a few minute break if you want to get some pictures or those you that don't want to stay for the rest of the meeting you can quietly sneak out right now so we'll take a few minute break and and go from there e e e thank you so that brings us to 5.5 governing board members any anybody have anything to report all something I want to share um just kind of in light of the uh n or the national principles month I had passings with a couple of principles from coms it was exciting it was at a uh Arizona Department of Education safety training and Chandler and I crossed path with principal Lopez so she's my neighborhood principal so I just wanted a little shout out there and I my experience with the two and three principles I think are my thought are representative of our principles in a whole um so it was neat to just have a moment to speak with her um and hear how her experience how things are going and the confidence and the hope that she had so I was excited about that and then I was in a zoom meeting um a couple weeks later there must have been 20 or 30 of us in for the the quality evaluation training that we were having from the Arizona Department of Education as well I think and I was thrown into a breakout session with one other person and it was with principal Quinn I am sitting you know right there with him and so again to feel some of that hope and that confidence just excited about the principles that we have and then yesterday yesterday of course talking with someone else we're talking about our power our PA our path of cross and and the name of Laura Ridge came up and there's always a feeling of joy and love when Laura ridge's name comes up and so it was thrilling it was thrilling so principles I want to thank you for what you do um not always do you get recognized and there's always a weight on your shoulder I know as soon as you put your foot on the cement from that car there's probably someone ready to take your plans just to take your time um that excitement that joy that enthusiasm you have for uh education be sure your teachers get to feel and know that you appreciate them um I know through action you probably do but give them those words give them those words let them know let them hear that you appreciate let them know you see that what they're doing even though some teachers can be struggling a little bit but let them know you appreciate let them know you see that they are there they're kind of a lone soldier sometimes in that classroom they need to hear that you recognize them that you see them that you appreciate them so in this month of being recognized for principles give that love give that excitement back to your teachers so they can know because uh when they know that they're going to give that little extra ump when they're in those classrooms when they're having that tough time with that student or they're they're just that extra excitement that they're going to teach and so again I want to thank our principles for what you do um we see it I don't think we get to tell you enough that we appreciate you um and that's just what I want to share today so thank you I also had one other thing um so our egg science or FFA um over the break and the last two days the land lab now has pens and uh they're going to start uh having animals in them for the fair so my my husband was part of that uh collaboration so he's been over there for a while helping out but it looks awesome so yeah and a lamb I think I think a lamb is going I think they have a lamb the Lamb's purchased but they have they have a place to put it now but yeah lots of pigs awesome all right anything else all right do we have any public no we all right um that brings us to seven point the consent agenda any questions on the consent agenda not unless Julie wants me to ask one no not not this oneth are we good on the ratios for the overnight well the some of the ratios were off but that's okay they were close they were close they were close dang it well I mean one of them were doing expose facto kind of thing but okay any any questions if not I'll take a motion I move to accept the consent agenda as presented okay I'll second all right I have a first and a second all in favor I I I motion passes 5 all right that takes us to 8.1 discussion and consideration of approval of the joms proposition 301 um performance-based pay plan uh good evening again and last month we talked about the process of adopting the 301 plan and the similarity that it is to last year's with just a minor tweak uh last since our last meeting I went out to our um teachers and at each building and really with an overwhelming 92% they were in favor of this proposal and I would ask that the board approve this for the 2425 school year okay were there any negative comments or reservations they had about any part of it no there no none that I heard it was either in favor or they were not but U the feedback there was no one gave me any specific uh feedback as to what they would want different okay any other questions all right I'll take a motion I'll motion to approve the J com's Unified School District 2024 2025 proposal proposition 301 performance-based pay plan as presented I'll second all right I have a first and a second all in favor i i i motion passes I V okay that brings 8.2 discussion and consideration approval of 2425 governance team and book this is just the annual uh U bringing forward to you guys of the handbook the only changes uh this year are we I just waited until you had approved the Strategic plan so the back of the the book is the Strategic plan we made some changes a year ago on on Mr delena's suggestion but those are Incorporated so there's no other real changes yeah so I would recommend approval as presented okay any questions quick question um on the very first page where has the governing board members I guess after this next ele election on January the 1 we'll have a different board so that page will just be updated yeah we'll just update the page all right I'll take a motion I motion to approve the 2425 governance did I say that right team handbook as presented I'll second okay I have a first and a second all in favor I I I motion passes by vote 8.3 consideration and approval oh questions already discussion and approval of jov comes Unified School District annual Finance we're to the questions I I can do it backwards if you need me to no I was looking here so I wasn't scrolling oh the slides were backwards um Mr Mr President members of the board colleagues members of the community action item 8.3 is the discussion and consideration for approval of the 2324 J comes annual financial reporting everybody's favorite topic it is Bob's it's Bob I I love it Mr Delan is in mine we'll let you guys party hard here we go all right Arizona revised Statute 15904 requires the the governing board adopts an annual financial report no later than October 15th the package includes a district annual financial report School level reporting as well as a food service AFR all of those documents were attached to this presentation this pre uh the slide presentation is just a summary of the annual Financial reports and all of the worksheets since Mr Delena and I are the only one that want to look at 15 pages of excel spreadsheets the actual forms have been attached so that everybody can review them however with your approval tonight we will upload these to the ad School Financial website as well each slide will reference where the information was obtained in the upper corner or in the header of the slide this shows a summary of our District's M budget utilization you can see our budget was just over $31 million and we spent 95 .2% or $29,800 th000 we are projecting a carry forward of 1.5 million and I really contribute that to the conscious spending of our staff everybody really looked at the cuts that we were having to make what the carry forward was going to be and knew that our Target was at least $1 million um and they really helped us pull through with watching how much went out last year this number will be fin finalized once ad confirms our final ad numbers it is based on what is published at this time but there are always small changes um but I do project and expect it to be very close to this number that projected carry forward balance it's almost double what we at at one point were looking at just 750,000 when we were doing cuts and changes throughout throughout the last Academic Year so that's pretty good yes everybody really dug deep it gives us some breathing room yes thank goodness especially with the minimum wage going up in January yes it helps a lot the maintenance and operation budget um typically what we present so that you know is how much did we spend in each of the respective categories within the spreadsheet salaries and benefits were just over $22.5 million or 75 almost 76% of our total spending purchase Services were almost 6 million we had supplies and and then other those are the different categories now I'm going to apologize right now if Mr Delena hasn't already caught me in the Box it says 2.1 million almost 2.2 million of the purchase services and it equals out to 90.5% that is a incorrect number when I originally did this 2.2 million doll of purchase services attributable to salaries and benefits that we hired from outside sources when we went back and looked at it and we had our custodians and we added some of the staff that were in the retire rehire program those individuals when we add all of that that number should be closer to almost $4.4 million that gets us to the 90.5% if I exclude those we're still only around 83% but still in line with industry standard which is typically school districts spending between 80 and 85% of their overall budget for salaries and benefits that's what I would expect when we do our budgets and we do the AFR they are typically broken down into program types regular education special education transportation and K3 reading are the programs for coms these numbers are really in line with what we have done in Prior years the largest difference was 77% which was an additional allocation to special education which was reduced from those other sources but again our spending is still in line with what we projected in our budget and what we have done historically maintenance and operation is not the only fund it's just the one everybody looks at the most we do have other funds such as classroom site fund most people consider this your prop 301 money and we did spend over $4 million for our staff um that is salaries and benefits that's not supplies that's not purchase Services it is salaries and benefits our unrestricted Capital which is usually our furniture fixture Equipment Technology Vehicles things of that nature we spent just over $1.3 million our federal and state projects thank you to all my grant people who work so hard on these diligently um that brought in an additional $5 million that we were able to use to benefit coms other funds that could be our Civic Center which would be facility use it could be Community Ed auxiliary operations student services um gifts and donations rooftop fees things of that nature in all of those counts combined we spent just over $7 million now the fun number if you take all the numbers and all the money we spent all year long in the 23 24 school year we will be reporting expenditures in excess of $53 million lots of benefits to our staff and students once we take all of these spreadsheets we have to break it down in what's called School level reporting it's additional reporting that came out several years back that says we want to know how much was spent at each individual school I will apologize that the spreadsheets that I scan and upload for you to review they're very hard to read because it's very small the spreadsheet doesn't allow me to save um directly from the spreadsheet into a PDF because you have to go into one single spreadsheet and then use a drop- down menu to select each individual school so the way to get you the reports to review I have to print each one of them and then scan it into a PDF document if I could download it from Excel directly it'd be a little easier to read unfortunately I can't do that but if you do want that spreadsheet if he'll reach out to me I can forward it to you the breakdown really just looks at all the sites and says based on what we know was an expenditure for that site which we code when we do the expenditure we can also look at what are the student counts what are the square footage meals served how many staff do they have at that particular site or what's the ridership if we're dealing with Transportation expenses and we take all of the expenditures and we allocate it out to the various sites based on these criteria that's the spreadsheets that were provided to you so that you can see where it all spends looking at them there's not much difference from prior year then the last report that we provide to you is the Food Service AFR those people work really hard as you can see based on the numbers they're beginning balance was $2.2 Million roughly they brought in another $2 million and they spent $2.6 million which is going to leave them with $1.6 million in the account which is sustainable going forward which is great their meals they served over 435,000 meals breakfast and lunch to students and staff that's almost 14,000 meals more than the prior year the allart items increased 43% in the previous year we issued 3,590 and last year we uh issued four uh 53,9 129 alloc card items to students and staff so they were really busy again the annual Financial reports are complete accounting of all the revenues and all the expenditures during the physical year and with your acceptance we will upload these tomorrow morning uh to the ad website are there any questions about the information or any of the reports I I do I just want to say you're absolutely right when you say it's very small and hard to read it's very hard to take out a magnifying glass to do it yes did you I did of course I did if you open it in PDF you can actually increase it to 200% and then scan back and forth back and forth back and forth I'm there now um the one thing I'm curious has anyone ever looked at the total expenses for schol School divided by the number of students attending that school and get a cost per student overall big picture cost per student and compare schools to see how does Harmon compareed to Ranch compared to Ellsworth I'd be curious to see what those numbers might look like I can do that okay um I know one of the things that I've already talked to Miss Corey one of the things we are going to look at is on some of the reports it also looks at uh the special education spending by site based on funding and how that all Compares so her and I are already on tap to have a meeting to sit down and make sure that we're we're also hitting those targets as well but that's something I can definitely pull for just be curious to see what that might look like I can do that okay good thank you you're welcome any other questions all right if we don't have any other questions I'll take a motion Jason's on a roll I was leave that to but I'd be more than to motion to approve hold on motion to approve the 24 2324 annual financial report School level level reporting and Food Service AFR reports as presented I'll second have a first and a second all in favor I I motion passes 5 all right that brings us to 9.1 discussion information on student achievement all right good evening Mr President members of the board Dr Wyman and Miss Winger um our report for this month is actually going to focus on the instructional time model um we'll have some updates for you next month on our student achievement I believe Dr Wyman shared with you our memo with our anticipated a through F scores but shocker of all Shockers we're still waiting for those cut scores to come out so they're still sitting there in limbo but hopefully we'll know soon what those official cut scores are we'll be able to present that information to you um in the meantime I wanted to share with you some updates from the instructional time model and the work that we did this first quarter uh just a reminder this was what was originally presented to you back in May um the purpose of the instructional time model looking at those three main criteria there to address those educational challenges and some of that revised Statute language I won't read it to you again but just a reminder that's where it came from um and we really looked at a couple of things obviously increasing instructional time um and re regaining lost ADM one of the interesting pieces that's come out of the work on the instructional time model um that our one of our principles is going to speak to tonight is really some interesting data about what student makeup work looks like and it's giving us another way to track that in our system to better understand if students are missing school what is the percentage of time that they're taking that opportunity to do that work um and what impacts that might have on some of our student achievement so just an overview of the time frame and some of this work uh your approval came back on May 8th um we then submitted that plan to ad on May 24th um we took some time over the summer then to develop a handbook um that handbook has multiple components to it um part of that being the teacher facing element of what is asked of our teachers on a weekly basis to review their attendance and then the other component being that on the attendance side of things and what our attendance clerks are doing to update and refresh this information we got our first itm report out on August 8th so it took us a couple weeks to get our feet underneath us um with some support from our itm team and I want to mention Miss Liz zoa up there as well uh Liz did some great work for us to help us kind of get our feet underneath us of what that would look like um and then we're going to give you the the first quarter review here tonight um so this is kind of a breakdown of what it's looked like campus to campus I know that's a lot of numbers but some of us love numbers so there they are um so you see CHS CMS CA the schools are there along the bottom um what you're seeing in those bubbles there is the number of absences that we uh recuperated out of the number of absences overall during this five-week period so from the 6th to the 27th um I am missing a little bit of data in there we had a little snafu to to make some catchup so CHS is not 100% accurate because I'm actually missing one week so those numbers might look a little bit different um but it gives you a sense of where we're at so in essence what you see there is the recapture rate um that we're accomplishing on each campus through the use of the instructional time model um our average then as the district is 29.9% in those first five weeks so we're pretty pleased with that as an initial um initial effort one of the things that our principles are doing for us now is taking a look at um that data at the site specific level oh sorry got ahead of myself there um but taking a look at that at the site specific level um and kind of breaking down what that means teacher by teacher you know so for example do we have instances on a campus where we have a teacher or two who has few or no students who have taken advantage of the instructional time model so is that a skill or a will issue is it a matter of we haven't skilled them up in how to use the instructional time model are they not offering makeup work to their students are they offering makeup work but they're not getting it back from their students so it's kind of those nuances of better understanding what that looks like um but I asked U principal Pierce to come and share some words with you tonight because Harmon's done a really nice job with that before you go on could you go back to the previous slide because if you look at the range of percent of capture from a low of 12.4 to a high of 54.7 there's a big range so we'd like to leverage the ones that are what they're doing and leverage that across the district and obviously you're working and and I think it's a somewhat of an obvious statement here but if you take a look at the schools that are lowest um there are a couple of caveats there the first one being when we look at CHS and CMS the complexity of capturing those at the high school and middle school level is much higher the ask of teachers is much higher the ask of the attendance staff is much higher because we're capturing attendance per period for students so every day a student is absent we're asking teachers to go in and review five periods worth of attendance so it's a little bit harder it takes a little bit more work and then if you look on the other side there um obviously a couple of our new principles who have a lot on their plate new to the job new to the experience taking a little bit of time to get their feet underneath them they've had some other priorities um but we feel pretty confident that um that this is a a very low threshold for us coming out of the gate and that we've got some room for improvement but your point Mr Delena is exactly why I asked Miss Pierce to speak tonight because she's got some good examples of the work that they've done Mr President members of the board Dr Fountain thank you for inviting me to share tonight I'm I'm not going to lie I'm not sure I have anything like Earth shattering to share with you I think one of the things that has helped Haron to be successful in implementing itm is that we started having conversations about itm right from the beginning of the year um I had my grade level teams come together I had them really just focus on what are we doing when students are not coming to school what best practices do we already have in place when students are missing work and so that kind of started to drive our conversations and as we were speaking most of our teachers started to realize you know what we were already doing those things anyway so the idea then of combining that with itm really wasn't a big stretch for them they were like well we're already doing it now all I need to do is just document that in some way so by having the conversations early on we even started looking at Data before data was presented officially from the district so I just feel like being proactive in those conversations helped to set us up for success and then one of the things that we have done um since we've started itm is we are revisiting that conversation often so we had a conversation with staff today um a after early release and we talked about what's going well what's not going well um we even really talked about if you're somebody who is struggling to provide that makeup work how can we help to support you with getting those systems in place so our teachers spent some time even today still talking about what they're doing how do they present that to students um and it really um drove some great conversations about why we're doing itm and teachers really quickly started saying things like it's important for our parents to understand that when our kids aren't at school they are missing really important things and we want kids to know like when you're not here there are great things happening and so I think they know that there's money involved like everybody knows we've had conversations about recapturing dollars but for them it's really becoming more about how can we really increase attendance over time so that being at school becomes more of an important topic so I i' I'm happy I'm super competitive so I'm not going to lie I like being above 50% feels really good um and my staff also is competitive but I think I think we're really trying to look at it from a bigger picture um for attendance overall so our goal is to remain consistent to continue to have conversations and like Dr Fountain said um revisiting with teachers who might still be struggling to consistently have these best practices in place and help them to refine also so that as a St staff we can make sure that we're continuing to provide opportunities for work when students are absent any questions that I can answer for you awesome thank you so much all right thank you Miss Pierce I just wanted you to be able to hear from that site lens kind of how they've gone about it and some of the work that they've done and they've done some excellent pieces there so um even though these folks aren't here tonight I wanted to put them on a slide because I want to make sure that we also recognize the work of our attendance staff um so these folks here that are listed on this slide are you know kind of the the meat and potatoes of the work that we do and with the support of their site level principle because they're really the ones that are are making the effort and kudos to this group of individuals because really from day one they've had an amazing can do attitude um they've asked questions they've collaborated with one another um we've gotten a chance to kind of learn and get some best practices in place from one another and help each other out um so it's just really an amazing group of people that have have gone above and beyond um one of the things that I pride myself on is that we try to have those personal conversations so I sat down with each one of these attendance clerks as they were going through the process and just said talk to me tell me how it's going what's working what's not working what supports do you need and so we learn valuable lessons we make adjustments and we move forward so we've actually changed starting in Quarter Two we've changed kind of how we're producing our report um Lan cabales in our office who I also want to compliment did some amazing work and is kind of overseeing that now and we've just made it much more userfriendly for them uh just trying to be responsive to their needs so I just wanted to recognize those folks and their principles as well so our next steps um are looking at increased usage our goal for second quarter is to be at or above that 50% threshold we think that's a very doable number um based on the things that we have learned um we're working on our improved systems that includes improved reporting and systems with Central support um again on that same vein of asking for feedback and input if you remember when we talked back in May um we had done some work going out and sitting down with teachers as we talk through the process we extended that same invitation to those teachers of okay now that you've been doing it for a while um we'd love to come sit down and talk with you we didn't have as many takers this round as we did at the initial onset but got a chance to sit down with some teachers and hear what's working what's not working um and and suggestions that they have I mentioned earlier the site account of AB ility so principles are now able to utilize that data to have those internal conversations um I want to reiterate the point that principal Pierce made that um I mean I'm an educator at heart and yes I I want the dollars because it's good for our district but my heart says we're learning a lot about our system we're learning a lot about our kids and we're learning a lot about what's working and what's not and as much as we we want to be um open and respectful to our families and the decisions they make at times to take things like vacations I think that it's really shed a lot of light on that component of but when we haven't been as accountable with our students for that makeup work we've unintentionally sent messages that when you're not here it's okay you know that that you haven't really missed anything significant and I think it's really been good for our teachers to think about how we better communicate that to families that hey lots of stuff happens in life and sometimes that family vacation is important but we want you to know that learning is happening all the time in our buildings and we want to be able to provide that to you outside of that so that's been really wonderful um and there's some great data analysis there with progress monitoring of usage by site as a district and of course hopefully we'll have a positive impact on our ADM and be able to look at that 1.5 million surplus and you know bump that up and be able to do do right by our teachers with raises and positions and those needs that we have on our campuses any questions for me that's because Cheryl was so amazing thank you Cheryl all right thank you all right 9.2 any questions or comments on District enrollment numbers uh yes I do um I looked at the uh email you had sent us with the enrollment numbers and I compared enrollment from May to October by each site and some overall the district went down just a little bit okay but we know that's happening it's happening all across the valley but some schools three schools went up four went down and one stayed almost even so I'm wondering again can we Leverage What the schools that enrollments went up what they're doing to help the schools where the enrollments are going down yeah we can take a look at it it depends I'm not sure what the schools were I mean it could be so as an example and I don't know if this is case but if it was Simington Andor Ranch let's say and we have new developments that have come into play and people are now starting to occupy those houses you're not going to really leverage the new new kids that are coming into the system because they're in the new houses if it's a different District that doesn't excuse me a different school that doesn't have that growth then but we can take a look at it and see and so I I'll double check the numbers and we'll talk with the principles because off the top of my head I don't know you you may have them but I I have them here but I just yeah but yeah we'll take a look at it and and look at that and if there's something that we can Leverage leverage if it's something like I say based on on on growth patterns um we may not be able to leverage it quite to the same degree because I know that we're reaching out to families that leave and trying to find out why and trying to encourage them to come back maybe there's something else in addition to that that some schools are doing that others are't yeah and and and Mandy will be doing some presentations on some of the things that that that we're doing a little bit different this year relative to uh some social media out out out pushes uh for um schools and trying to highlight what we're doing um that's in an upcoming meeting so that will be something else that that you'll be able to see and hear what we're doing we just started some new things like I think it was just before uh uh break end of uh September uh a new uh push to communicate with our families and stuff but yeah we can take a look at that good thank you all right thank you for providing that report I do look at it every month all right 9.3 discussion information of your proposed fiveyear District calendar yes so we had a 5-year District calendar in the time that I've been here and so the five years is up this year we mov back out uh to go with the next 5-year calender uh what we did was put out a survey to staff our secondary students when I say secondary students that would be 7th 8th uh 9th through 12th um with the same set of questions and then with our staff uh so I just wanted to bring you the the results of the survey again pretty good uh return rate at 842 also nice to see that that our parents and Guardians were 40% of the return rate so uh we're we're getting out to our parents to see uh what their uh what they would like and what their expectations are in terms of the questions we ask we're trying to get enough information to make it uh uh good you know enough detail for us at the same time you don't want to uh 75 question uh questionnaire about uh what we're doing with next year's uh fiveyear calendar um and you can see I'll be honest with you I'm surprised that the at the differential uh the ones I've done in the past in in in other districts it's much more in line with about a 40 60 or somewhere a little less than that so when we're running our lowest differential is 7426 and your highest is like 8412 uh that's pretty much uh a slam dunk relative to uh what the expectations are um I shared with you some proposed um calendars just so you have an idea the reason they're not in this agenda item is because I didn't know what the discussion was going to be and I didn't want to place uh uh calendars out there that people might start grabbing and going ahead and making decisions on what they're going to do next year in particular for example um uh for when I'm going to have my vacation and then if there was a discussion with you guys or a discussion next between now and November and we had to change something um that all of a sudden it screwed up their vacation so that's the only reason that that's not in this this agenda item and it we share private with with you guys uh at at next month's meeting you will see the actual project those project uh calendars unless there's any adjustments that are needed to based on conversation tonight we had some conversation with uh leadership yesterday that conversation was probably more relative to procedural pieces for our staff and the start of school prior to kids coming back so the framework of what you have in here so far with our leadership has not wasn't like anything jumped out um a couple not a couple things you'll you'll see again overwhelmingly people are I'll just say happy with what we're doing uh the big either or question was what are we do in Christmas if it falls on a a weekend and the overwhelming was to say go out Wednesday before not the Friday before um and so that was in there um and then the other thing that we're seeing that's not reflective in here but if you looked at the calendars this five-year Trend different than the last five-year trend is the fall semester is significantly longer than the spring semester generally speaking you tend to see a longer spring semester fourth quarter is usually the longest the way the calendar is falling out you're actually seeing a a 49 48 type split in the fall not in the spring um and so not a big deal uh but it does crunch a little bit come the fourth quarter because you have to take a week or two weeks out during actually I should say both third and fourth quarter you have testing State Testing so there there is a little bit of crunching in the in the quarter but the reality is um the second big question we asked which is desire for school to end prior to Memorial Day at 81% that drives the whole calendar we can have all the conversations we want but if you get to the Before Memorial Day and you start counting back 180 days it's going to drive your calendar so although lots of people like to talk about calendars the reality is that decision right there will tell you when you're going to start you can make a few adjustments here and there um whether you're going to go modified year round or you're not going to go modified year round but but that really drives the whole calendar if you want to do something different on that end cool but then you're going to do it on the other end if you want to do something different on the end then you're going to change when you're getting out um but so just note uh not much that we can do relative to the 49 48 47 48 split um but it will be a little bit longer so uh that may create some stressors uh especially the first quarter because you only have fall uh Labor Day so you have a full 49 days um and that's issue in the fourth quarter you usually only have spring holiday and so you have two long months of April and May um so sometimes both kids and adults can get a little stressed uh on that part of the school year but it I mean the calendar is what the calendar is in terms of of how we place it so more than happy to answer any questions but I wanted to give you the data uh and then uh see if there's uh any discussions or any questions that that uh can be answered um I I have some comments uh I looked at the percentages just as you said I said boy those look pretty good and then I went through and I read all those pages of verbatims and a couple of common themes came out and again you know given the constraints on the calendar I don't know if there's any way to accommodate what people were saying um some people said starting in July is too early let's start the first week of August instead and then by Memorial Day don't know if they're compatible or not um another theme was fiveyear calendar is too long because you know you're changing it all the time maybe we should not have a five-year maybe we should have a three-year calendar and I know when I was in the business Community we tried to do five-year planning and it never worked we always cut it back to two or three years um another thing people were saying and I know people voted that they' love having the week off for Thanksgiving but other people were saying let's just have Wednesday Thursday Friday so maybe if you need a couple of days as you play with the calendar maybe that's a way to pick up a couple of days I don't know and and I'll we'll we'll build the calendar at whatever the board tells us to do I say that only bit but the the cautionary piece is when you're running an 82 a 74 76 a 81 percent in favor so are we making all the change so hey we asked you for your opinion 81% of you said do this but by the way because and those 81% more than likely did not write a comment because even though we shared them with you nobody lots of people didn't put comments the other thing I've learned over time is that a lot of times people instead of just paying a lot of very diligent attention to a survey they say yeah it's okay and so you know that's why I wanted to look at the comments to see what that brought I'm just I'm not saying we should I'm just saying right and and and and I only say that because if you guys want me us a chance I mean we'll do whatever fight November so that's all I'm asking is is whatever you want us to do we'll do I just cautionary because of the high percentage rates for approval yeah I understand uh a lot of people wanted two weeks for fall break instead of one again that that puts a time crunch on do you start earlier do you end later um a lot of people wanted the first day of school to be a Wednesday I know in my grand kids District their first day is a Thursday and that that way it gives teachers time in the at the beginning and the kids don't get stressed out with full five days um let's see they were talking about early release being a Friday instead of a Wednesday I don't know what the benefit of that is but a lot of people seem to indicate they would like that idea so those are just some of the common themes I saw from the comments so I just wanted to bring that out and just on the last one I mean the reality is the the the um early release is irrelevant to the to per se irrelevant to the calendar so if you're going to go Wednesday or you're going to go Friday it's really not going to change the calendar so if if if as a whole the board or whoever said hey let's do Friday cool the all I know in some of the smaller communities I've been in the concern with Friday is everybody's bailing the because are getting out of town on a Friday and so that's why it's generally move to Wednesday because otherwise it appears like Hey we're giving you early release for PD but all we ever do is see you getting in your car going out of town on Friday maybe a little bit different down here because you're in a bigger city uh but uh again if we want to move it to Friday makes no difference to me I just wanted to highlight what I saw as a lot of comments in those areas okay so trying to make sure that the uh Community is heard right yeah NOP I understand all right uh 9 point four discussion information regarding Asda updated bylaw recommendations this is uh we'll bring it back for approval next uh month again this is the work that asba has done over probably the last year I think the uh if you looked at all the information myor majority of the work was done by or the lead person on the committee was uh a board member out of vale down in uh Southern Tucson down in the Tucson area um and uh so I there's a significant amount of changes my review of them although it was a high level review seems to be in response to any of the concerns that asba has had over the last couple years with some of their own internal uh operational pieces with either their uh executive board and or their executive director I don't see anything that jumped out at me that said oh oh whoa this is a little bit crazy um but it's really up to you guys and up to asba because it's a a board member organ organization or driven organization so uh unless there's a specific thing that someone read that said whoa I don't understand why they're doing this I can't necessarily give you an answer I can give you a projection or I can call up someone at asba to ask but this is really driven by uh the executive board at asba asking someone in a committee to go ahead and make some recommended changes they' felt comfortable enough with it to move it forward so uh we'll bring it back next month but if anybody wants me to get more information on the topic or on a specific I'll be more than happy to look at it if there's a specific concern otherwise we'll just move it uh next month okay all right 9.5 discussion information regarding the changes of polic recommendations from asba policy advisory 801 to 807 again first reading uh come back next month this is just a second iteration out of the changes in the last legislative session uh we brought some I think two last month maybe for a second read um they were the more uh pressing ones or the ones that laws passed a little bit earlier that uh asba had a chance to and actually trust because they're very similar in their policies they had a chance to fix these came a little later in the session so this is just a second iteration of some changes that occurred based on laws that were changed so be more than happy to answer any questions either tonight or between now and November but we'll bring them back in November for a u second read there Light reading only 42 Pages all right okay that brings us to 10.0 which is call for an executive session to discuss in consideration the superintendent's performance goals for 2025 and I'll need a motion I move that we go into executive session for the purpose of discussion or consideration and review of the superintendent's performance goals for 2024-25 second all right I have a first and a second all in favor I I I 5 let's
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all right well we will get started thanks for coming out um we are live streaming and uh we'll put this up on our website for folks that couldn't be here but I appreciate all of you being here to hear a little bit about the work of our redistricting committee that's been um meeting for the last several weeks so welcome and I am not Dr Michael Sullivan uh he is one of our assistant superintend but he is sick so he was not feeling well yesterday came to work and this morning texted me and said I I can't I'm just not going to be there so uh those of you that have been on the redistricting committee he has led all of the sessions that we've done and has done a great job so uh I was sorry that he couldn't uh see the the committee process all the way through to completion um but uh he he entrusted uh Mrs Al day and myself to uh share this information about the work of the redistricting committee so um but he he did a great job leading us through the last few weeks so if you participated in the redistricting committee will you stand up awesome very good so thank you we'll talk a little bit more about the committee um o that that uh that met the makeup of the committee and those kinds of things uh as we go through we also have two school board members here Mrs Smith and Mrs parent if you'd like to stand up [Applause] we've had school board representation at every one of our meetings and really appreciate their investment in uh supporting the the work that we've been doing so tonight's agenda uh we're going to go through some of the the really it's this meeting is intended to be a recap of the last six meetings that the redistricting committee uh had so this committee spent about 10 to 12 hours um over the last six weeks studying redistricting studying starting in time um and we're going to try to capture about 12 hours worth of work in about 45 minutes to an hour so uh We've really worked hard to try to condense the work of the committee um because of that to be mindful of your time we we're not going to take questions tonight because all of the questions that have been gathered over the last six weeks are on our website from from the committee so we counted them up and Mrs Al day is going to show that give you some more information on that but there are 71 questions answered on our website that the committee asked so we'll hang around after the meeting if anybody has questions but my what I would encourage anyone to do if after this session you think I wonder this my guess is we've already answered that question on the website and if not reach out to any one of us and and we'll be glad to add to it uh but we're going to review uh the the FAQ some definitions some boundaries Starting In Time the priorities we heard from the committee the feedback from the committee and then we'll get into reviewing the models so since so many of you here were on the committee you've seen this slide we started every meeting by going over our protocols and Norms we had note cards at every meeting and so the committee was great as questions came up they left note cards for us and then our team would meet the next day and draft answers to those questions U and the the committee was great we started and ended on time uh lots of great questions lots of positive intent um lots of um and we talked every time about the good of the many uh outweighs the needs of of of a few and so great conversations in our committee we have several folks from our transportation department here Mr Hon's here director director of Transportation Teresa Clark is here she is the routing coordinator from Transportation um so the the data the maps everything that uh is available really uh Teresa helped create through our system and we'll talk about that a little bit more and then Kevin gray uh co-director of Transportation was involved in every meeting but he uh is out of town today as well we always started every meeting with our vision as a school district that we uh want to be a nationally recognized District of choice that Embraces all students and prepares them to grow and Thrive for our future everything we do as a district we funnel through that vision is it uh we try to live out that vision and everything that we do and we also started every meeting by reviewing our three goals that the board has set for us we have three strategic goals goals the first one is centered around student achievement the second one about systematic and purposeful Innovation for kids and the third one focused on supporting the whole child and we really wanted to start every meeting through that lens of the vision and the goals we have as a district and how our structures and our systems and our supports allow us to meet those goals so with that Mrs Al days going to go into some of the data that we shared hi I'm Carrie Al day and I'm assistant superintendent for teaching and learning so I worked with the committee for the last six weeks and it's been a just a great experience and so again I'm just going to share some of the pieces of information we shared with them so um this graph really shows some of our student growth so if our the last school that we built in Avon schools is River Birch Elementary and we built River Birch back in 2010 so since 2010 we've grown over 2200 students without open up a new school if you go in our schools if your kids are in our schools we're using every space possible um we're you I mean we have been very creative we even had to get to the place where we had to get some Portables um so those portable classrooms and we're at the point now that we had to say okay what's next because we don't have any more space and so our our board's been a great Steward of really of taxpayer funds and of leveraging all of our space and so last year we did a lot of work on how and getting feedback from our community is like what's next and um based on that they the community gave us some feedback and the one piece of feedback is less transitions for students is better and so what we did through some of this work and is think about uh we brought currently our fifth and sixth grade are in the intermediate schools and we are bringing our fifth grade back to the elementary so right now this year we have six elementaries when we next year we eight elementary schools intermediate East will transition to Evergreen Elementary Intermediate West will turn will transition to Willow Elementary and each of those schools will be K5 Elementary School the other feedback we heard from our community was at that middle school age smaller middle schools is better and so we are currently building um a new middle school and so our we have three middle schools and they will all house grades sixth grade through e8th grade it'll give kids some more time and it'll give families time to know get to know staff and our staff time to get to know our students and our families so we'll continue to have north and south and then we're building Middle School West right now and all of this will be done for the start of the school year and the Great Piece all of this is it does not increase any um it doesn't increase taxes and we are not using any referendum dollars to do this construction project and so our committee so we had nice robust committee and we had some different goals through this work of our committee and so our first meeting we really just set foundation and at that point we even had to talk about you know in schools we sometimes have like our own School language and we had to Define some things with transportation and this so we just built that foundation and the next two meetings we really focus on boundaries so it's like what parts of the of Avon will go to which schools and then from there we transition we went two meetings talking about those start and end times like what are we going to do with start and end times and then our last meeting um we brought I mean we really we tried to bring start and end times and boundaries together and get in get some work from our get feedback from our our committee so our committee so typically when we do redistricting committee we have about 25 people and that is the committee well we decided this is such a big piece and it impacts kindergarten through e8th grade we really wanted to expand the ask so um everyone in our district was asked if they want to be part of this committee and so we sent it through parents Square I think Dr Windham sent a video message and so um we had 149 people show interest in the committee and then across the different meetings we averaged about 80 um 80 participants at every meeting and kudos to those people it was about the same people at all six meetings which is a big commitment and a lot of people I think probably have interest but it's also like do you have the time to do it the second graph on here shows who was a representation of the committee so you'll see we had a nice representation of people who had K students in kindergarten 24 we had a nice group five six seven eight in high school and some parents could represent multiple of age groups if they have multiple kids so a great committee so throughout tonight you're going to hear from a couple of our committe members members and they're going to give a little testimonial of what was it like to be on the committee and so our first is Mr Jason K claser and he's gonna come and talk about his experience on the committee okay hello everyone um uh as she uh mentioned my name is Jason cazer I have a daughter who is in seventh grade I have a son who who is a sophomore and I'm also the husband to uh my wife who is a speech therapist at the high school here in Avon so I am both a parent and a I guess bouse to an employee um so it's so get to hear some of the fun stories uh coming home from that aspect um I actually was not able to join the very first meeting so I went in a little bit blind uh into the second meeting and for me from an experienced perspective I wasn't real sure what I was walking into um I think they did a great job of setting kind of the ground rules and making the transition from each meeting to meeting so that as you were able to come and go it was easy to pick up um they mentioned the the note cards and question box I think they may have been regretting that after the first or second meeting um at the end of the first day we saw a number of slides that had some data on them and you guys can all see those online but at the end of the day there were still a lot of opportunity to dig deeper into the information and the data and for me my job in the in daytime is in it so I spent a lot of time around data and information systems um so I think I had six or seven different index cards that I submitted that night of different data elements that would be helpful to look at and understand and I don't know if this was part of the plan or not but they then came back with a whole stack of data so I don't know if it was in the plan or if it was a hey we're going to throw a bunch of data at them and get them to shut up and and and so we can get through this process right um but at the end of the day that the data was extremely helpful right and being able to look at it from a uh an abstract uh way right and being able to take some of the emotion out of it we all have our own preferences and ideas on what's best for our family but really looking at it in the context of what's best for the community and all the kids and the students as a whole um is really where I I think everyone really red around um as we got into the boundaries that's an area where I was like I I was super surprised at how complicated that was right and I have the utmost appreciation for all the data crunching work uh that that went into trying to figure out how we show this picture in a way that still achieves the outcomes that we all Aspire and and all want to see uh from a so socioeconomical balance from an ethnicity balance and from a balance of mult multilingual students uh to give all of our kids within the district the great experiences that they get today by embracing those various different aspects of diversity in the community um we've looked at I don't even know how many actual options we ended up looking at uh but I think at the end of the day we narrowed it down to a couple that uh really account for all those different pieces um and I think maybe we even went at least half a session if not a session longer on boundaries than I think we originally planned um which unfortunately then on the flip side of it started to then cut the the time school start time conversation a little short I think that is an area personally where I think we could have spent a little more time the the neurological studies and the neuroscience and the Pediatric studies that have been done are undisputable you there's all sorts of research you can look at I found some great articles from Europe there are a number of from other different institutions both that um they were able to bring to us or various different academic universities and other science-based companies that are doing research in that space But at the end of the day you have to be able to balance all of that with the logistics and needs of parents and extracurriculars and all the other things so that one for me is an area where I think we could have dug a little more into what are the true priorities from a outcome and benefit for the kids uh and and their learning uh and and what the different options are um by no means is it an easy choice but at the end of the day I think the options you saw or you will see uh as you look at the data are good options um I think there's maybe a little more to dig into around the the high school start times um the last thing I'll hit on from my my experience perspective that I think is another area that um we'll just need some continued discussion um again the the group leading us through this discussion was really good about considering U as many aspects as possible in the short amount of time that we have although six weeks doesn't really seem like a short amount of time um it it went by quick right and and found ourselves at least I found myself pretty frequently having more follow-up questions that I'd throw in the hopper and I'm sure they spent lots of fun time on Thursday mornings talking through all those fun things but one area that I think that that we also need to give a little bit of a a closer look at is the impact that all of this will have on how we're setting up our strive and impact programs um lumping that population into the common student population uh and looking at the same characteristics the same values the same benefits for that population and and starting to look at class sizes and some of those things um I think we just need to be very intentional about making sure we have enough space at the schools that we've identified to be the schools where those programs will be hosted so that we can Ensure that we're setting them up for Success not just for today but ask things real in the future thank you Jason and the Great Piece is I I we probably didn't share but we have been very intentional about um setting our stri and our impact programs up and our Architects are working on to make sure we're really thoughtful about what um what their needs are and their spaces but agree that's a group we have to be really thoughtful with their trans so thank you so we have been um since we started this back um with our restructuring we've been working through a timeline um and so we back in September of 2024 this kind of shows our road map but September is when we start that redistricting um committee work right now we're at the community input um this will go through November of when it goes through our school board ultimately they'll make our the decision and then that's when it starts all the next steps um then we the families will know where their children are going to school next year and our staff will know typically we don't do this process this early typically this happens in the spring but we knew this was a massive one with kindergarten through eighth grade we wanted to give our families ample time if there's adjustments that they need to make with child care or different pieces and we also want to give our staff members ample time they might be teaching different grade levels different subject areas and we want to make sure they have time to feel prepared and the best for our students and so that's why we did it earlier in this time and the piece is as you're driving on Avon you see a lot of construction happening but that's all even the high school everything will be completed um for our July opening of next school year so at our meetings they really followed the same format even though we did different things we always had what our goal was um and we really leveraged the committee to help us with our prior priorities the district came with priorities like for boundaries by all means we have priorities based on what our transportation needs are but we also want to know what were the priorities of our communities and our families um and based on that that's when we came back and um the transportation team we all work together to come up with models to bring back to the committee we've evaluated those models and um that's where we're at now we're presenting to the community and then ultim we'll get all this feedback gathered and that feedback will be created put in a report for our school board as Dr Wen shared earlier um as you're as you're thinking about this and digesting all this and wanting to get dig deeper if you go on our website there's a a wealth of information and the nice piece you could scan the QR code but if not when you get home you can just go to Avon school's website and if you scroll down there's different boxes and one of the boxes that you can select is redistricting and if you select the redistricting there's G to be multiple things in there um the one piece you have a recap of every meeting so if you want to look at the six meetings uh our communications director was there at each meeting and he took notes and he Recaps each one another piece there's a couple podcasts that you can listen to Dr Windham Dr solivan and I talk about some of this work and then I think the the wealth of information will be in the questions from the committee again again there's 71 questions in there they're organized really well and so probably a lot of the questions you might have right now are the ones they had so you can look through those questions and then we have answers to all of those um additionally you'll find the um the boundary maps that we're going to be taking to the board on there and uh and with the boundary maps with the committee set are strengths and challenges for each map and you also see the models for start and end times so again we talked about three meetings on boundaries and when you think about boundaries boundaries are kind of exactly what they sound like it's like what is that area that boundary area of of neighborhoods of homes of kids that will go to a school so there's Elementary boundaries then there's Middle School boundaries because they bring multiple elementaries together and obviously all of Avon school districts are High School boundaries so this map right here um is our current boundaries this is what we're living right now in 2425 um and so you can see each elementary school so they' be six on here um attend has a different color and that's the school if you live in that area that is the school you attend so when we think how do you create boundaries like it it is like I mean there's an art and a science creating a boundary um if you think about it we actually have a software program that we use for transportation for buses and in there um it feels like magic to me but it's not magic but you can go in there and you can like if you think like almost like an ed a sketch you can say okay we're gonna make this a boundary and we make say we make this a boundary let's say for Sycamore Elementary then the computer will tell us like a how many students would go to Sycamore Elementary and then what about the like the student demographics so it will tell us the percentage of students um like the socioeconomics so sometimes here I say that's like the percentage of students who are free in reduced lunch it will tell us about the ethnicity at that school it will tell us about what percentage of kids are multilingual and we do really want to look at that we want to balance that across our school district um and so really that's how we create boundaries and we are looking really how do we balance it how do you balance it across the school knowing some of our school elementary schools are going to be larger than others because they have they're larger schools than other schools and the middle middle schools we're trying to think how can we really balance and have similar size middle schools the three middle schools so once we started this work we really talked about priorities and like what's a priority to one person might not be a priority to another person because there is like what works best for my family but we try to look at this too as a collective group and so when we started this as I said the district has some priorities with boundaries we wanted to be thoughtful about student ride time we want to think about the balance of enrollment side we also want to balance that the student demographics and we do have some pieces that the federal government will even tell us you really should when you if you think about your student demographics they shouldn't range more than 15% so that means if one school is free and reduced lunch is around 50% you wouldn't want another school being at 30% because that's too much variance um we also to think there was a real piece about Transportation capability right now Avon there we have a a bus driver shortage but that's not just an Avon thing this is across the nation and so we really strive to get all of our buses on time every day and part of that is we have to be really thoughtful about the capabilities of our transportation department um another piece is a feeder system and the feeder system really means which elementary schools will then feed up to a middle school so we try to have where it's not just like then all the kids are put back in the pot and then um or I mean split up again for middle schools and then we wanted to maintain neighborhoods and subdivisions so we didn't want neighborhoods and subdivisions that were split so that was our priorities then we asked the commit all the committee had time to brainstorm and write on Post-it notes what what are their priorities and so they were able to put all their priorities out there and then at the end they were even able of this portion of the of the committee work they were able to say looking at our commit at our priorities and their pri priorities what were the top five priorities and that's what you're seeing right now so from their feedback um transportation was the top priority like ride time availability and then proximity the next one was balance school size they wanted us to have to keep our small class sizes which is thankful to our refer our past referendum for our our community members and they wanted the small classes but they also wanted room to grow like they we want to get out of the business of portable classes um the other was balance with student demographics they wanted to keep our feeder system and they wanted neighborhoods to stay together so that was the priority from the committee the top five I'm gonna throw it back to Dr wend so we spent some time in our first one of our early meetings talking about boundaries and spending some time about reading the boundary Maps because it's one thing to see the visual and the colors excuse me and how they break down it's another thing for this committee to really dig into what these Maps mean so we spent some time on this map and we created this knowing it would not work but we wanted to use it as a teaching tool so I am sometimes asked in our current boundary map why does the River Birch boundary run east to west why do most of our map our boundary lines run east to west so as we were creating Middle School models and like Carrie said this program makes it pretty easy to draw the lines in different places we created a model where our Middle School boundaries went north to south and what that does is you can see how uneven our three Middle School enrollment size would be so even though this whole western part of the district is huge geographically if we drew the lines This Way Middle School West would open with 450 students we told the committee our goal to open the three middle schools was to open around 800 so to open a brand new Middle School that we designed for 800 students with 450 did not seem appropriate Middle School South and this even though it's right here in the middle and it looks small geographically Middle School South would open with a,2 students well outside that range of what we what we were hoping for and middle school north would open with 935 so the enrollment was unbalanced and then as Carri talked about if you look down at the bottom this is where on every map that the committee considered we looked at the ranges of demographics so if we did this version there would be a 42% Gap range in socioeconomic status between the three middle schools Carrie just said our Target was 15% so a 42% spread between uh middle schools would be well outside that boundary same thing ethnicity 44% spread and so uh this was very compelling I think to the committee to be able to see that when you see our new maps the ones that are being considered and they all are more oriented east to west that's part of how number one we find the overall enrollment balance between schools and that socioeconomic um and demographic balance between schools so in our committee um and Carrie touched on this a little bit um our format stayed very similar and that we would start presenting content updating on questions that they had asked in the previous session and then we always broke off into small groups for uh really to dig in and have more conversations and more questions we had some parameters that guided each uh session that we were in when we broke out and then we came back together um to to wrap up so this slide is actually a slide that even our committee hasn't seen because um at our last meeting uh we brought them a new model so they had get through the feedback from the committee um and uh we also engaged a demographer which we have not done in previous redistricting but we wanted to have an outside analysis of what our enrollment projections would be so when transportation and the amazing ter a Clark draws her lines around our Maps that's looking at our current students what we have never had in the past was a demographer to say well if you draw the lines that way that's what it's going to look like in five years this is what it's going to look like in 10 years we had that uh this time uh because the school board engaged a demographer uh to make this process even more um um solid is to have that outside perspective So based on all those items we came back to the committee in uh our last meeting and brought them a 4B at the end of that meeting uh we asked the committee to rank their uh the four models that they had seen model one model two model 4 a and model 4B so you can see that the committee um more had more support for model one and then um support for model 4B you might wonder why is there no model 3 there was a model 3 it got kicked out pretty early in the process so just for our own uh tracking we decided to keep the numbers the way they were uh but we had two different we had a 1A and a 1B early on in the process we had a model three um and so uh at this point really the two models that have the most support based off of the work of this committee is model one and model 4B so you have those as handouts um and they will be on our website so if you're watching online you'll be able to download these uh off the website site as a PDF um so if you would pull out the handout that says model one we're going to take a look at that here real quick just to give you some orientation um us36 goes kind of right in the middle we've labeled that if you look closely you can see it you can also see we've labeled some of the north south roads so you can see um a little to the left of halfway is Avon Avenue kind of right in the middle of the district is Dan Jones Road going north and south and then you can see how we break apart uh the boundaries between our eight elementary schools in this model the other thing uh I'll point out is as you look at these models and we're not going to dig into them deeply tonight but on the left of the page you can see where we have slotted in some of the newer developments that we know uh are happening on the right of the page you can see the overall breakdown of enrollment at each of the schools and then along the bottom is the demographic range so for example model one in elementary you can see the range of our socioeconomic status is 14% well right within that range of what we wanted to be under 15% the other thing I'll point out that for those of you that haven't looked at these Maps as much as the the committee has you'll see a couple schools on this this uh on both models that are split and they're noted off to the right there's a number and then it says split that just means that those schools are split between two middle schools so Carrie mentioned earlier that one of the priorities from the committee was maintaining a feeder system knowing that this Elementary will feed to this Middle School we were able to do that in most situations but in both models you'll see that there are split elementaries we have had split elementaries in the past when white oak was an elementary school half of white oak went to Intermediate West half of white oak went to intermediate East so they're only split between two schools so kids will likely still have friends that go to the the middle school but it might not be all of their class from Elementary going to the same middle school so I just wanted to explain what split means when you see that uh in model one for example Maple and Hickory are split schools that would be feeding to two Middle School schools so wanted to take another break here and give a chance for one of our other um redistricting committee members to to share a little bit about his experience and so Brad Reed is going to talk about that a little bit than I'm not going to go over all these documents hello everyone my name is Brad Reed thank you for the opportunity to speak here today uh I am the father of a ninth grader and a sixth grader and a beautiful wife and entrepreneur and I'm also a realtor so I have a long list of clients that want to buy a house but only if it's in if it's an Avon Community School District so thank you for making my job hard but thank you for your great work in the past and current uh for our society for our community and for our children uh over the next three hours I'm going to talk about my okay I'll leave out a lot of jokes uh want to talk about my experience before I was a realtor I was a lean Six Sigma Master black belt that means that I did statistical statistically proven process Improvement for large organizations uh and I facilitated and taught people how to run meetings like this for C Level and BP level Executives for Eli Lily Pharmaceuticals Delta Faucet company Dell computers and several opportunities in the Department of Defense the reason I I share that with you is to let youall know that this meeting was professionally done on the highest of Consultants level I don't even want to think about what it would have cost the taxpayers if they had outsourced it but it would not have been better uh better conducted the opportunities for us to speak were unbiased they were open-ended um if there was not time there was a place where we could ask our question and get it voiced later uh it was uh amazingly and professionally done um I love the opportunity to say thank you to the committee members and to our administrators welld deserved compliments but the reason I I'm taking your time on this is to know that the results that came are professionally done they're unbiased they are true they are what the parents uh the the taxpayers and the voters of this community want it is what the teachers the principes and the administrators think is best for our our children uh one of the the reasons that I joined the the committee was for the discussion about the school start times my kids started in kindergarten and as I said they've gone through that transition to 9th and sixth grade they experienced the 7 AM uh start times and I know it's rough but maybe that's just my experience right what do the community say uh Mrs Al day brought us an an article I believe hers was from the American Psychological Association um I did some research and found several articles from that organization as well as the American Academy of Pediatrics spoiler alert later school start times for adolescents improves their mental health their attendance their grades and uh fewer car crashes which is uh uh not one that we discussed but I quickly looked up the major causes of death in children and Adolescence car crashes is at the top uh mental Health uh suicides are second so in summary because I'm over my time than I'm in smacking distance um the results that are done that are presented to the board today they're what the parents want okay they are what the teachers and administrators want to deliver right they we can design the ship but they have to sail the ship right it's theirs it's what they want and due to psychological pH DS MDS all kinds of D's it's what our children need so for the community members I ask that you support the recommendation and board members I uh ask that you vote to implement the recommendation that you received today thank you so um our last two U conversations of the committee really focused on starting end times just as as Brad spoke about so we spent some time on U really talking about starting end times because really redrawing boundary lines is challenging talking about starting end times is even more challenging because it's so personal my work schedule is is this my kids needed child care when they weree Elementary age at this time yours might be totally different and so it's very personal very individualized what we each need for our family so we spent some time because one of the comments that I occasionally hear is 7:20 is too early to start school 7:30 is too early to start school and then I hear the opposite 9:20 is too late to start school everybody wants the middle tier everybody wants The Sweet Spot school should be 8:15 to 3 so we spent a lot of time as a committee studying that studying why we need three tiers of Transportation because the number one priority from our committee was Transportation making sure that kids get to and from school that need a bus neighbor uh districts around us are frequently cancelling bus routes we do not frequently cancel bus ROP please everyone knock on a table while you're right here because Friday is all Friday is before for a break we're always crossing our fingers um but we are in so much better shape than a lot of communities around the state and around the country because of the hard work of our transportation department so we spent some time in the first meeting studying this slide so this is our current time uh among our three tiers of Transportation the intermediates start at 7:25 then we have another tier that starts at 8:25 and our third tier that starts at 9:15 920 so what I occasionally hear from uh folks is well why can't you just move the start time back 30 minutes move that 725 start time back 30 minutes it seems so simple except you can't move anything in the first tier without moving everything later so this scenario shows well what if we move that first tier back to 755 that seems so simple then this tier moves back has to move back to 855 start time okay maybe that's okay but then that means that third tier doesn't start school until 9:50 school doesn't end until 4:40 which means lots of kids are not getting home until well after 5 o' so it's not as simple as just saying move 30 minutes you can say the same thing if we shift early so okay 9:20 that's too late to start school Scott okay noted if we move at 30 minutes earlier and they start at 850 well that means tier two has to move up and start at 7:55 and that whatever schools get assigned to the early the Early tier would have to start at 6:55 and dismiss at 1:45 way too too early so that's where I think some of the comments that you've heard tonight about it's much more complicated than you think is where we tried to convey some of this type of information that 30 minutes seems so simple but 30 minutes in the world of transportation is a huge amount of time um and and navigating those three tiers of school start times was really important to make sure that we have enough bus drivers and enough buses to get our kids to school so we started off and asked our committee what were their uh priorities when it came to starting end times as Carrie said we had a list that we thought as a district were important uh but we wanted to hear from the committee the number one was the same from a district and from the committee the bus drivers transp what do what can we do to make sure that that we're efficient in getting kids to school you can see brain research was top Mr Reed spoke about that was towards the top extracurriculars uh and then we asked people to rank Early Elementary start late Elementary start early High School start late High School start early middle school start late Middle School start I shared with the committee What You Won't See on here is Middle start you know we have a tier two why didn't we put middle as something that they had to evaluate those of you that are on the committee remember why everybody would have picked it so we said you can't pick middle that's too easy that's the easy out to go oh I think this this level should start at the middle time so we we took that out of the the survey and said you've got to you've got to make the tough decision who should start early and who should start late so you can see the committee um ranked Early Elementary start um as something that that was more supported and you can see where they ranked uh High School start high school was kind of split and then Early Middle School start uh was at the the bottom of that priority uh list from the committee so what you have as another handout um is the start and end time scenarios this will also be on our website as a PDF so uh if you're watching online you can download it and take a look at it you will see that there are two there is scenario a and scenario B we went over all of those uh with our committee one of the questions you'll see on the FAQ is well did you think about this third scenario and we did and and that's there one person asked if we would do a scenario where the high school started earlier so we put that out there but the committee really uh landed on a or b as the the the two that uh had the most possibility when we asked the committee's feedback on that overwhelmingly the support was for scenario a um and so you can see on that sheet that you have um what schools would go at which which times and we also included on there the number of buses that are used in each of those models because as we've talked about Transportation was so important and our challenge was to try to get those three tiers as evenly balanced as we could so you'll see in scenario a Elementary start earlier at that 730 7:35 start time uh with 57 gened buses then you can see that second tier is high school a couple of elementaries preschool that has 66 gened buses and then the middle schools are on the third tier at 63 buses so it doesn't balance out perfectly between the three tiers but it's really close and that's what Transportation um was was striving for then if you turn the page you can see scenario B while scenario B didn't have the support of our committee we wanted to go ahead and share it uh with our community just so the community could see how we considered all options and and we can get feedback on it but you can see in this option the middle schools and the elementary flip so in scenario B the middle schools start in that early tier and then more of the elementaries are shifted to the later tier the other thing that you'll see in all of these packets and um this will this will be online as well we included the strengths and challenges from the committee so we've mentioned that we broke into small groups in every one of those small groups we we asked for their input on strengths and challenges so again there might be something that a Community member would would think of that we didn't cover but my guess is 95% of what you might be thinking is a strength or a challenge of both the boundary models and the start and end times is on this sheet so we wanted our community to see kind of the summary of the work of the committee whether it came to boundaries or whether it came to start in end time so that's all available as well then in our final meeting uh which was last Wednesday we reviewed uh some feedback from the committee uh we shared the projections from our demographer uh as as what he looked at five years out 10 years out in our boundary models and then as I uh said we shared a new model 4B um that as you saw earlier had good support from our committee so we had a couple of folks uh Mr Cole claser and Mr Reid that were uh willing to come and and said that they would they would speak tonight but at our last meeting we also asked for um members from the committee to share a little bit about um their experience I know Mr Reed is in this video as well so you get to hear so see you are getting more time it's just part of it's on the video um but several several of uh the folks that couldn't be here tonight did share a little bit about their perspectives so we'll show this right now as well my biggest takeaway is just learning more about um the requirement that needed to L kep for balancing demographics and boundaries for school districts I really love the hard process my name is Sarah Snider I'm a parent of three children in three of schools um my takeway was we were given a lot of information a lot of data a lot of Statistics that helped me mentally decide that we have to do what's best for the school um not just what's best for us um and it's it's the way this played out is it was a great even though we're going through change everyone's going through change so we're in the same boat my name is Brad Reed uh I'm a parent of a current sixth grader and a ninth grader so my kids have gone through that uh that really early start time at those older ages uh and that's what brought me here also I'm a realtor and I have so many people saying Hey I want Avon School District or I'm not moving so thank you to all of the the people that have made it what it is and I'm here to help keep it what it is one of my big takeaways was the amount of science that has gone into this like the reports on the sleep times how that affects the kids uh as well as the uh scientific instruments I don't even want to think about what's gone in to do the demographics like the economic status the multilingual and the the the racial Equity so I feel really good about the recommendations that we've got because of the science that have gone into it and the professionalism of Dr Windham and Dr Sullivan of running the session and my name is Jed Cardwell I have a sixth grader and um I'm a parent so um my biggest takeway for this is how much the school district actually cares about this whole process they did not just come into this and think they'll choose a few people to be on the committee or that they would just draw a couple lines or would throw some dors on the board you can tell with everything that was given each and every me it was well researched it was well thought out they were completely open to hearing from each member on the committee about what are their concerns what are their what's the weaknesses and then each week you could tell with the new information that was presented that they list and they heard us and they um they took that back and made adjustments so I feel like I know that not everyone's going to be happy I know there's a lot of changes coming but I feel like if if if anyone missed out on the meetings they missed out on seeing this whole thought process it was not just a decision that came down for from on high my name is Kristen Carver and I am a parent of a student in the Avon Community School System and my takeaways from this process is I wanted to be involved to ensure that diverse perspectives and were repres was in it in the process and I feel like this provided the greatest opportunity for that to happen it was a safe space for that to happen and I do feel like um diverse perspectives were and we involved in the process to help uh influence this decision my name is anaisa um I'm a parent I have a first grader and I joined this mainly because I wanted to know kind of what was going on um I'm new to all this I'm CU I only have one kid but it it was really eye open in experience no matter what we're moving so at first I was kind of upset about it but actually like knowing we're going to move no matter what allowed me to kind of look at it more objectively um and I did realize that the school districts were not just like you live here this school is close to you this is where you're going to go to school how how much goes into that the demographics all those kinds of things so that was really eye opening for me and really appre bur about that I'm uh David Bailey um I'm a parent to a middle schooler um and the intermediate and Sherry Bailey also parent to the intermediate and middle schooler and recent high school graduate this biggest takeaway I think for me has been the extra effort that everyone has to put in to create the culture that we know we aspire to in Aman right um so the effort and the energies for all people in these meetings has been pure me it it's been good um there's no perfect science but we've definitely done our best so my takea away from this is I think I took for granted um the process of the redistricting and all of that stuff um just being aware of all the different variables and factors that you all have to juggle to make our children School experience worthwhile um so I appreciate the community coming together everybody voicing their opinions and stuff as well as the administration and the work that they do um as parents you think it's as simple as all my kid needs to go to get on the bus and go to school but it's so many different factors um and then you know we love Avon um it was great to see the uh balance of diversity across all of our schools so that that was a great takeaway for me yeah I know it's never fun to have a video camera so I appreciate those folks that that did that and shared a little bit about um their experience and so our next steps from here um is this evening um we will be sending out a parent Square message to parents and staff with a survey um that survey will be open through for for a week into next week um and so I'll I'll show you a link to that survey here in just a second but you're going to be getting it uh via parent Square it really just asks for gives you the different models gives you the different start and in time scenarios ask you to uh rate uh your support of those and then ask you a chance to narratively say any strengths or challenges that you see in those uh different options so that will go to everyone whether they've been on the committee or not uh so that that will be widely distributed so that we can compile that uh over the next couple of weeks then October 28th uh will share some of the feedback that we've received with the school board um and then uh ultimately a decision will be made on November 11th so following uh that decision then we'll communicate again where information can be found on our website so this is a QR code to access that form you really don't have to do that uh this evening uh because you're going to be getting a parent Square message with that link there but we really do uh appreciate feedback and I know this was a huge ask for those those of you that participated in the committee and not everybody can do that but so this is a this this survey is a way that we're able to get feedback from folks that couldn't participate and give up six or seven Wednesday evenings uh over the course of the last couple of months to to be a part of this process so thank you for coming out as I said we'll stick around we've got uh Transportation Representatives here who are the smartest people on this topic in the room Teresa Clark let's give Teresa Clark a round of applause she hates the attention but uh we would not have gotten through the last seven weeks without her support so we'll stick around if you have any questions uh don't hesitate to to ask and then like I said lots of information on our website so thanks a lot
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thank you good evening everybody it is October 9th um this is our school committee meeting and the ashle Ashlin Public Schools strives to be a model District that creates a culture of inclusivity for our diverse students and staff who feel safe and supported are empowered with the academic and social emotional skills to pursue their chosen path and embrace their roles as positive contributors to local and Global communities this meeting is being recorded by waca cable TV this evening we'll have our call to order opening procedures agenda review and adoption there will be time for public participation reports and presentations include school committee student advisory Council AHS student counselor warrant approvals superintendent report assistant superintendent report the action items discussion updates include second read of policies LCR guidelines for managing life-threatening allergies superintendent goals masc Mass resolutions clubs and activities the consent agenda includes September 25th 2024 minutes gifts and donations and grants one by one Grant from four imprint there will be reports of school committee members and then we will adjourn so I'll just take attendance and ask if everybody's okay with the order of business this evening Marcy here and yes Tina yes Paul yes Mark yes okay um so I will uh ask if there's anybody in the audience or online who would like to offer public comment okay seeing none we will move right to the school committee student advisory Council yeah it's hi my name is Vanessa Thompson um so just some updates with School uh for athletes we've implemented the navigating through quicksand so um once a week every Tuesday we have um a lady come in and and she presents to us like different ideas and strategies on how to like become better captains and how to lead like our teams and like basically it's all about like like culture building and just making sure that like everybody is on the same playing field and um it's been like a big success and I think the culture like throughout all the teams is definitely building and we're seeing like more positive impact with all the sports teams um having better results and and just like coming together more and then there are a lot of college visits that are coming through with all the seniors so about like once a week during xblocks the a bunch of colleges will come in and students can sign up and we're seeing a lot more of seniors um signing up for those and taking advantage um and meeting with like admission counselors and just learning more about like the colleges that they'll be applying to and there's also a family reconnect weekend this weekend so that means that um all classes are exempt from giving homework that will be due the following first day of classes and um but this is not this doesn't apply to the AP classes due to like the tight schedule that they have to stick with um but it's just kind of a way for students to get a break in terms of like work on the weekend and um it's pretty beneficial and we have like three throughout the year thank you um hi my name is son M Swami um I just wanted to inform and talk about Ashton day um thank you first off thank you for supporting us and supporting School clubs um which allow them to be more vocal on their cause and to show people in the community what we do and um which we're which is like not often um able to do during school um this despite all the rain that happened a lot of students showed up eager to support their clubs and I think there was around 20 student groups who um participated and organized numerous and fun events um um um also the QR codes um this which was recently introduced has helped many people who don't have cash which was very efficient during the Ashen day um and help transactions happen much smoother um also I know that the last time it's happened was in 2019 and many Club leaders and teachers have um said how they're eager to have this happen much more times in the future and maybe like better weather but it doesn't matter despite the weather people were still great and showed up also the cell phone policy has been implemented in our school um many students are seen without their cell phones but they're much more focused on their tasks instead of being distracted which is like easily can happen um it's also provided much more equal space in um classrooms some teachers they um they used to not have cell phone uh be restricted but now it's much more equal and um better yeah thank you thank you thank you so again I'm abash carthik and today we're missing two members actually we're missing Maximo Gamboa who is out for work and uh Sophia wety who um has a track match I believe and so I just wanted to give an update on things that are happening in the future and things that are going to happen uh that already happened so to start off we had a couple school safety drills so we talked about Alice schoolwide and I know we were talking about that the first meeting I was here and we also had fire drill so the first fire drill I believe did not go so well but we updated some protocols so I believe we should be doing much better now and so picture day just happened as well um and retakes are in a couple days I believe yeah so like around two weeks and um so for upcoming events next week we have a very busy week with PSATs on Wednesday which is also a community service day for the underclassman and um a future plan planning day for seniors uh also NHS applications are due tomorrow I believe and um college applications are getting into full swing for our seniors also next week we have the homecoming uh homecoming event which I believe student council will be talking about more so for that we have the rally dance uh spirit week and also big football events and so yeah I believe that's all of it uh thank you guys for coming um thank you Miss iner and that's all for us do you guys have any questions any questions thank you no thank you okay good stuff thank you everybody okay next up AHS student council hello all right hello everyone my name is Sarah mixus my name is Bobby Abramovic and we are seniors at Ashen high school and also the President and Vice President of the student council So today we're here just to talk a little bit about the student council and what we do some of our plans for this year but specifically we want to highlight what we do for the school community at large so uh our board consists of obviously the two of us but then we also have our secretary Yasha Hua Ami sha our treasur Ella Dickinson our historian and then our advisers are Mr wixer and miss mazini so now we're going to talk a bit about what we do so one of our main functions is to fundraise to give back to the school so recently we've bought new water fountains with water bottle fillers in all the hallways in our school we've also last year brought um a bunch of supplies for our different departments we have a box of cords that we got for Miss St cerr that's available for faculty that may need them like for projectors or other technological things and then we have a propane grill that we bought for Club use and other school ride events that we've used since uh our freshman orientation and Senior convocation and we're always open to suggestions from teachers and faculty so we let them know like when we presented at the faculty meeting last last month that we are here as a resource for them and we periodically try to reach out to the Departments throughout the year to see if there's anything we can do to support them or the school as a whole we're also always looking to help out in more Hands-On ways with jobs around the school for example in the past we've had members cleaning desks or prepping labs for different classes we always need more credit so we often reach out to teachers to see if we can assist in any way and make their lives a little easier also if any of the teachers ever need assistance from students they let us know and we can try to make that happen so here are all of our events um what the dates so we have clocker idle pancake breakfast and bingo night and all of them are open to the public so we hope to see you all there uh so right now we are actually getting ready for a homecoming rally and dance next next week yes so our spirit week will be from Tuesday October 15th to Friday the 18th with of course our dance on Saturday the 19th so recently we've been looking specifically to our teachers to be chaperon for our dance to be rally volunteers specifically in our teacher chair race and also to help us advertise for Spirit Week participation to get the whole school involved so that is about all from us so thank you for indulging us and letting us talk about our club and all that we do and while of course we plan a lot of events for our students and members more importantly we just wanted to share how much we do to give back to our school and our faculty however we can so thank you and we hope you enjoyed the rest of your day thank you thank you and thanks for all you guys do that's amazing anybody have any questions about any of that yeah I guess my only question is actually for uh for gim is for the Fountain and things like that that seems like it's something that we should structurally do as opposed to yeah this was in the high school it was never done initially that was one of the um initiatives they took probably a couple years I was going to say I've heard about that many years ago I don't disagree with you Paul it's like providing supplies to teachers and and families we finally did that for mes and Warren this year right uh yeah we shouldn't necessar be asking for that either yeah I mean the other things like the grill and those are extra things but you know uh I agree for you guys taking yeah thanks for doing that I just feel like we should have done it I agree so that's part you know I invited themop um we've had the uh student council come and present to our faculty you know the last couple years at the beginning of meetings because um everyone does think of them as they plan the the fun events that that happen in the building like the rallies but they really do so much um for school community and are always putting out there how can we help how can we um be of assistance to the teachers that are doing so much for them so I you know just want to thank them so much for that and um you know they've they did um helped pay for the sign that's out front the digital sign the banners that are around the building they've done um all of that and um I think they often look to and see things that we don't even realize are missing you know we've had water bubblers since the building opened um but it was students that came and said we really would like to get um bottle pillers um because you know we're doing a better job bringing our bottles um and you know I don't know many how many years ago it was six years ago at list I think that um the first ones went in and even back then the plumbing was so difficult to do um and then the last couple years they've been able to make it happen so um we're very grateful um and in terms of updates um and from the high school they do an amazing job so they have shared a lot but that you know what I would like to reiterate is um the cell phone policy has really not it's not the policy has not changed um how we are um enacting it has changed in terms of the teaching staff coming together and saying we're going to be consistent on how we um model that and um meeting with The Advisory Group yesterday um that was the word that the students used that they loved the consistency of the teachers and um you know we kind of had the conversation that you know we all expected there was going to be a lot of um push back and that this was is going to be really difficult um and the students have been amazing um and compliant and I think um from those that I've talked to do see um do see the benefit of not having the distraction while they are um you know during instructional time so um you know we are grateful that um the teaching staff has um come together to say we're going to be consistent with this um and that the students have been so amazing with it um and the other updates you know we've talked about some of the safety things that we've been working on um this year and again uh students ask a lot of great questions and have been really Cooperative um when we talk about some of the district initiatives you know they're obviously at a higher level um in terms of their ability to participate and drills and have conversations about what we're doing to keep them safe um and St they've been wonderful with all of them um and the final update I'll talk about is next week um which is definitely going to be a very busy week at Ashton high school school um but we are um looking forward to Wednesday when we'll have uh 240 students taking the PSATs um I think all of our seniors are uh planning um you know great ways to spend the days whether I just got an email about a job shadow and um you know whe they're working on college applications which are going to come du very soon um essays Etc um exploring different options hopefully going to visit some places um and um the uh community service sign up sheet for the 9th and 10th and 11th graders who aren't taking their PSATs closes tonight um we still have a few more that need to get in there but again that is you know if they can choose to come to school for a regular day if um they do not want to participate in the service but we had um about 280 kids signed up um at when I last checked it at the end of the school day today um with some amazing opportunities um within the school district and all over the community um we have kids going to three different YMCA ites um we have students going to restore through habitat um we have students um going to Unity Farm in Dover or sherban sherban um which is um you know protects animals Sanctuary um and then we have kids going to all our schools um there will be projects at Ashton high school um and we have students coming to the town hall um and all the other offices within the community and then a lot of students who are um finding their own service opportunity um through organizations that they already work for um we'll be spending some time that day um engaged in those activities so we're looking forward to it um a lot um you know it's still new our second time around um a lot to learn um on how we roll it out and uh timing um we you know definitely next year won't do it the same week as homecoming week um um and a short week uh uh and our community service adviser I'm kind of took over the planning and rolling everything out this year which has um been amazing um but again you know learning curve as we kind of you know think of the three things that we hadn't thought of but I'm looking forward to a great day with students having some wonderful opportunities Kelly can I ask a quick question you mentioned a lot of different sounds like really amazing community service opportunities were those all set up through ashin high school or are those some of the ones that students also set up on their own the the we set up the ones that I mentioned nice yes that's awesome yeah yeah so for people who are for example coming to this building are they responsible for getting themselves here yes that is the transportation is the one piece that um students have to be responsible for their own transportation if they're doing opportunities outside of um the high school and and the Middle School in some cases and so what what do we have for some means of seeing how it really goes with you know kids either following through and what they've signed up for if kids haven't formally signed up for something you know how do we kind of how do we evaluate the success of of the day so we'll be sharing out the students that are signed up for through our opportunities obviously we'll be sharing out their those names with um the different groups that are hosting students so they'll be able to take attendance um we have several staff members that are volunteered to spread out and visit the sites and help supervise at the sites um and those that aren't signed up at all um we'll be reminding them they should be coming to school for a regular attendance day and then we'll have our regular attendance procedures thank you than thank you everybody good night all right you too you're all good well between September 26 2024 and October 9th 2024 I Paul Kendall authorized by my signature payables in the amount of $622,500 5,600 $535 and Grant expenses of $ 27,7 159 thank you Jim great uh so just a few things I know Tina will probably mention this as well but last night um all the administrators um were at ashon high school library celebrating uh with ashack uh are lighting the way uh award recipients and and what this has come out of is our parents of special education students write and nominate Educators it can be anyone across the district it's not you know just um teachers it can be par professionals administrators special education coordinators Etc uh where uh they they write in and nominate um an educator to to say thank you for the work that they've done throughout um uh whether it's last year and it's last year um last year with with Someone's Child it's really a nice night it's a nice way of recognizing the hard work that goes into uh working with our um unique Learners so so that was a nice event that was last evening um Mike and I were fortunate uh last end of last week we were um went to the New England Association of school superintendent conference where I'm on the executive board and and we focused a lot on um seal and social emotional learning and and the ability to uh what we're finding is across all of New England uh it's a challenge right everything is um you know we're still we're still not fully out of the co era if you will um but we seem to be and other states seem to be moving um to more normaly than what we were the last three years uh so it's always to me it's my one of my favorite conferences to to interact with with people from around uh New England to see what things are happening it rotates each year um into the the different uh States uh so next year we'll be uh back in the home state of Vermont um which will be great uh a couple other things um the I found something really interesting at a Tri County meeting and tri Count's again superintendent roundtables um when we're talking about pipelines of Educators and administrators um they were talking about uh the lack of of interest in educator being in education by our high school students and about 10 to 12 years ago that if if there was a survey done and it was about 18 to 20% of of students were were interested in going into education uh the most recent survey shows less than 4% um of of folks uh Ed you know high school students who have an interest in um going into education and I find that really concerning I think as we have conversations in um in schools about how do we encourage um you know our students to enter into the profession how do we get folks into administrative positions uh that's another uh real um concern that we have have at the the superintendent level is uh we used to have this um pipeline of of teachers who would then Ascend into an athletic director role or an assistant principal role and then eventually a principal role and then maybe an assistant superintendent and so on and so forth and eventually ending in the superintendency and I can tell you in my 16 years here in Ashland um we haven't had anyone you know we we've we've had had um Kelly um and Dave djo um and and Derrick Aon who hasn't been here for a long time but honestly the the the Educators who we identify and Mike and I have identified said they would be a phenomenal administrator they look at us and say Jim Mike no there's no way I'm going into that role nobody wants job nobody wants our job which is okay I guess I mean job security for us forever right right so but it's a challenge and I think it's just that as a bo uh you know even attending the MC M conference and and you have an opportunity to talk to your peers uh you know find out what they're doing in other districts to try to you know drum up um you know excitement to be in education uh it's a challenge for sure and the last thing I'll I'll mention is um Chris myself and Mike uh have been meeting uh with our aea Ash educator Association um membership and that's all of their representatives and their board their um that includes Administrative Assistant um the teachers the pr professionals as well as um the nurses uh on a monthly basis and and we were doing that well before covid and then when Co hit we sort of had that stoppage in that meeting process and and I think we're finding that the ability to come together on a monthly basis to have conversation uh it's all new leadership uh for the current aea uh as Michelle Smith has retired and you know while they're not necessarily contractual issues uh they're they're really a wonderful way for us to build relationships with this new board uh as we enter into uh the first year we're in the first year of a new contract uh with all four of those organiz or yeah all four of those units so um I would say that's about it all I have to to add tonight so awesome thanks Jim Mike uh this month uh we had our our initial U curriculum leadership team meetings that began uh we meet monthly with uh members of the different schools representing uh science math and Ela we started with our um math and our science teams we meet with Ela next week uh the focus of the initial meeting is to talk about uh item analysis Based on mcast data to take a look and um we're utilizing our open Architects platform and teachers really uh took some time to get a little bit more informed of how we can utilize that particular dashboard to help us drive some instructional practices uh it offers the opportunity to you know get us spreadsheets but we can really look deep into the specific item analysis comparing ourselves against our own District as well as uh against against the state data that we now have um because the mcast Embargo has now been lifted accountability data is available um and specific student data is going to be mailed home to parents um on the 11th so that's in two days so those mailings will be getting to folks probably early next week uh also I ready is is near 100% completion at this point we've had over 1700 students complete that nearly 1,700 students complete their test we're waiting for a few people to finish um those results will be shared with parents during October conferences for our K to 5 students and will be mailed home this year for all of our middle school students which is the first time we're doing that so I'm pleased that eron is going to be doing those mailings for all our Middle School families um data looks very similar actually uh to our fall data from last year except we've we've gone up by a percentage point or two in both Ela and math but it does typically look pretty similar in the fall obviously our most important thing is to see how the data shifts towards the spring for our growth data um educator evaluation update real quickly all Stu all self assessments and goals have been shared with evaluators um and at this point teachers are working hard to finish up their educator plans to show how they will go about achieving the goals that they proposed as you know they all propose a student learning goal as well as a professional practice goal that they work collaboratively with their evaluators to make sure that those things are happening um so those will be due um in the coming weeks uh I want to shout out to our our our evaluators who are doing a really fantastic job this year um we have made it a point to tell folks that we want to get in classrooms more often uh to do a much better job of uh giving useful feedback uh to our teachers regarding instructional practices um I I haven't I didn't do a comparison to where we were uh this this time last year but I can tell you based on uh just knowing how things are going we have done significant more we've been in the classroom much more we've got 117 observations done as of October 7th wow so our folks are really working hard to get into the classrooms regularly uh I've begun giving them weekly updates of how many uh observations have been done um as a whole team and I think that that's been useful for some of our more competitive people especially um but but we are getting in and um folks are doing a really nice job of seeing what's happening in the classrooms and providing teachers with some great feedback uh finally some professional learning that's been going on uh CPI training so Crisis Prevention Institute Training which is essentially uh how we are dealing with situations where students need to be assisted to make sure people are staying safe in any possible crisis situation um that and that training was uh led inhouse by Katie bent who was one of our Special Education team chairs as well as Paulie Krauss who was one of our new bcbas uh several of our staff members at the elementary level uh took that training with her this week um next year I mean next week I'm really excited for the first uh first day of our collaborative work that we do with men and Upton and Milford we continuing to work with them for specifically for our year two and year three teachers the year two teachers will be heading to Milford some of the year two teachers will be heading to Milford on 10:16 um some we headed to M Upton on 10 21 and we will be hosting here in Ashlin on 10:24 um the the focus of that uh training is that we do Collaborative Learning walks and we talk about what a learning walk is we teach folks about what to look for and then the the teachers work together on those walks to go in and see different instructional practices and then we come back and we talk about them and we talk about how we can use some of the practices we saw in our own instruction uh finally the last thing to talk about about is that Raptor has now been fully implemented I know we've talked about the Raptor technology that we're using now to make sure we are keeping a safe andure environment for all of our schools um knock on wood I haven't heard any negative feedback uh after the complete roll out I know it's a change for a lot of folks but our our uh forward- facing administrative staff is doing a wonderful job and and I appreciate the patience of parents and visitors understanding that things might take a little longer now when you're coming into dismiss your child because we're running that system through and for all visitors to ensure that they are bringing proper identification into our school building to ensure the safety of everybody who enters that building so it's going it is going well so far I may have asked us when you talked about Raptor last but um do we have a protocol in place for somebody who shows up without an ID yeah tell me what it is no we we do we do have protocols in place for for when that happens um so we can enter enter the system manually if necessary obviously we would prefer not to but we do have you know procedures in place if that has to happen the first thing we're doing though is asking them to go back to their car if they don't have it yeah fair enough that was me mik you also just mentioned I think I think part of it too is there will be some substantial changes at Warren as well as the middle school coming forward so if you go into um the Mendes is a great example right now right because you you get buzzed into into that that holding area if you will and um I can't say the word Paul you know go ahead you can't say best I can say vegetable um veg see it's a hard word for me so so you makes the holding are is perfect so but so we have like a banker's box there right uh that was built into to that but at at the middle school as well as at Warren you can actually walk in and and those doors can be closed and it's the same exact scenario there's a window there where administrative assistants can can open you know and grabb stuff or whatever so we're going to put in tables under just under those windows so parents never have to come in to drop off you know a Chromebook or lunch Etc uh it'll just make one less opportunity for people to come into the building um so that will be forthcoming uh Chris and John have ordered tables uh we still have to get a new um uh buzzer system at Warren we have one on the outside but we don't have one on the inside uh we removed removed it from inside to outside so we are looking at those things to make sure it's a lot more secure pway is a different challenge because we don't have the ability in the high school is the same way right there's the way it was designed there's no um no no vestibule there thank you thank you I had to slow the word down thanks excellent thanks guys so just speaking of Chromebooks actually um all the high schoolers except the seniors got new Chromebooks this year year wow so um I I mean I don't know like the cost figure for that but I'm assuming it was pretty hefty but um so my I this is my new Chromebook actually it's been working great and um yeah awesome just wanted to throw that up there thanks you thank Mr Matthew for continuing to put stuff on the capital plan and working with the town in the IT department yeah thanks yeah the students appreciate it they do great thank you okay um I'm not sure what the second read of policies yeah so so sorry so this policy we at the last meeting we forgot the the language that yeah there was we did not approve the policy because there was a sentence that we had agreed to have and I'm going to show it to you um that so it was the second reading approval of this policy we didn't approve it last time it was on the last um agenda but no but my concern is in I Council if it's not spelled out which policy we're having the second read it is the one that's underneath one under oh that's what that what I was confused about why are there two different cat the formatting the formatting it's messed up when you post it to the town uh versus the printed it off the town okay I was just like why do we have two categories so that's a challenge too right so we're still trying to work with the town with the regard to our new agenda format it doesn't necessarily fit perfectly within what because they want on their letter head Town letter head Etc so it it is correct I see where I can look at it now and see see it's it made it like its own category so yeah so okay the second read of the threatening allergies and and we were talking about it yesterday I'm just highlighting it Wellness committee so this is this was what we had talked about adding uh it was not in the last iteration that I shared at the last meeting uh so I'm just looking for you to approve the policy uh based on having this language put into it as requested that's all great yeah and thank you Tina and the folks who gave me feedback on that and the nurses so y excellent I'll move to approve uh policy jlc d-r guidelines for managing life threatening allergies as presented second all in favor I I I excellent okay you're up next with your goals okay so thank you uh so everyone had a chance to so a as you know each year at the beginning of the year uh we've been certainly more on top of things this year with making sure our go the goals get um set or draft goals get set sent to you um it's always a challenge right because a lot of times the work that I do um most of the work I do is is holistic in terms of the entire district and I'm asking Michael and and Chris and and the principles to do specific things within their departments their buildings um and so our goals are all intertwined and I try to make sure that as we set goals they they revert back to and coincide with the Strategic plan it's always a challenge to determine how many goals are appropriate uh what are I doing that's not really necessarily outside of the scope of my everyday work if you will uh because I think every time I read the goals it's stuff we're doing no matter what um and it's it becomes a challenge to identify what it is you all want me to focus on and because that's in the end it's about I can set the goals but if they're not what you're looking for me to do this is where the opportunity excuse me the opportunity for you to provide me feedback and I go back and rewrite these goals um and so in this iteration that you have I I've had gotten up to seven goals uh which I think is is too many is a challenge we we try to get between that three and five um frame but that being said um you know I I moved one goal from we can make it a goal or it's really Mike's goal and and the assistant superintendent's work as a lot of this stuff is again it's not just about me it's about the the Departments that we're working through there are two that I I would say are more specific to me for sure of of the goals I'm presenting so I don't know how you want to go about this I know I've shared them with you uh and I can just read the overall goals um and then the actions Andor benchmarks uh if if there's something you want to add to it I I did um you know provide ahead of time the opportunity for you to do that um right and that was my question to you Jim I I mean you did meet with Mark and I and we gave you some feedback did you receive feedback from I did and I Incorporated that feedback so what we're looking at now correct is all the feedback you've received to date that is correct okay yep so so again I will not spend a lot of time talking about key actions and benchmarks unless you want me to but it's really about the goal and I'll I'll give it a a more Global um context if you will is that right well so I think for the conversation are people generally pleased with the direction of the goals on a high level um are we focusing on the right things did we miss something is there something that's redundant I mean my only comment on it is I we do this every year year we go through this exercise of goals and we get goal happy and we end up with seven instead of three to five right and while I agree with Jim about a lot of this is already gonna it's going to happen or somebody else is going to drive the issue um I think In fairness to Jim and making sure that we're really kind of focusing on what's the most important if there's a way to call this down by at least a couple I'd like to see us do that I don't have any concerns about the substance of any of the seven mhm um but as I was just looking at it again now seeing seven and I think you had five or six when we talked the gy um you know when I think about like the first one right we talk about the Alice training the protocols I assume that all you're doing is making sure everybody else is done what they're doing and it's not something that you have hands on so while that's important and I want to make sure it happens I'm not sure that I see that as a as a goal level thing in the same way as some of the others are okay as observation but but I I will say before getting to the weeds of it I I'm really fine with all seven goals and statements of things that we that are appropriate and if at the end of the day you're going to say n leave it it's fine I don't you know I'm good with it I'm okay I just feel like um like I said we get goal happy and and sometimes I I worry that we cause you to go in too many directions at once well I think that's the nature of of my job right is that I am in a thousand different have my hands in we want to make it worse well right so so again contextually when we go back to the Strategic plan resource management and and providing a safe environment for all students and staff right that that's one of our our pillars and we've started the process starting in June with admin training under the Alice you know um protocols and and obviously you know AB talk we're getting the message out there in our schools at what we're doing I I think it's valuable again Mike leads the Safety Committee um but there's always conversation uh there was even you know when talking about safety you know I'm sitting in my office today working on something I hear Chris and and Mike having conversations about cameras and on in with transportation and who's going going to be responsible for making sure that the messaging is really clear to the community right as opposed to it should it come from Mike or or Chris or should it come from me uh you know so those are things that are that we're constantly having conversations about or they're excluding me from those conversations sometimes but um and I just overhear it but that being said um safety is one of them I mean I mean but just to go back I think we need to figure out what we want what's the purpose of the goals and the purpose of the goals can be many different things it could be hey you are pulled in all these directions Focus here it can be value statements of these things are important like you mentioned Alice so okay we're focusing on this it is it's going to happen whether we put the goal on there or not but it's another way to not publici but talk about it to the and so so it's all those things and so seven is fine if it's if if we're not if it's not distracting if if it's if we need goals to tell him hey something's going to fall off the truck don't let these things then Seven's too many but if we're not worried about that then seven's fine if it's to meet those other things so so it I think really depends on what what our intentions of these goals are and I think depending on and it can even change from year to year because our situation might be different and and so so Jim do you so do you do you feel that these would these are going to pull you in and and make you lose focus and if and and does anybody here think that the value needs to be hey let's make sure these three things don't fall off the truck right so to answer your question no I don't because I think part of what I am doing within at least three or four of the goals is management right it's ensuring that the folks are who are working on these goals are indeed working on those goals because then it becomes part of their evaluation right it becomes so so that first goal I'll be honest this is you know a Mr Kyo goal that is part of his evaluation tool did he meet those the goals that he's setting setting forth as part of the Safety Committee so so it's it's again I I think they're worthy to to publicize and to say hey we're focused on this this year as a school you know and as a school Community um my thoughts were going in the same direction as yours Paul I mean I was going to use different words but if some of these things fell off you're doing them anyway right like you're still responsible for managing some of these things that are other people are responsible for so it doesn't necessarily take anything off your plate it just it just now is a tool that you will be like like officially evaluated on um and if that's if that's a concern then we can just talk about that but it's it's not like we're adding more work it's just we're um highlighting the fact that these things are still ongoing but it doesn't really add anything to your work plate no there are a couple for sure that do right and which are you know I think critically important things that we do this year that we've sort of let um and they would be on there anyway those are the things things that I'm pushing forward saying like goal two District policies right I think we've had this conversation here we need to get back to reviewing that entire policy handbook for sure and you know I'm suggesting and we've already started it I'm suggesting that I I present to you you know a process of how we're going to do that and what policies uh we think are going to be the most valuable to uh review uh to might be not just what masc says but what we think in our district it should look like uh there's 280 policies that in the book and you know so you know it's a big job it's a huge job it's a huge undertaking so what I'm suggesting is that hey we get about 25% of them done this year um I was suggesting a little higher number and then I got feedback saying why don't we tune it down a little bit um because it does actually impact all of you as well um um it impacts you know Lori and Paul as the subcommittee to make sure we continuously meet I mean we're meeting on Thursday tomorrow it's our third meeting already of the year yeah yeah so it's great so we're getting in a rhythm of of things that we can start presenting we're starting with the higher level uh policies for sure but like for example though like we're already down the road on that goal you're not taking that off needs to be done we're already doing it everything starts in July if you look at it s seven sounds like a lot but if you look at each one most of them are already sure in the works but I would say that that one would be one that even if you're going to do it anyway you keep it on there because then you can use it as justification why you can't get pulled in another Direction where it's written down from us that this is a goal and therefore if that's what's going to fall off the truck for something else you can say no my my goal is this right right and so and if it needs to change okay we can come back and have that conversation but so so this one even though it would be something that you plan on doing anyway and we plan on doing uh is one of those ones where it can be being on the list is justification for something else not getting on your list right I I like where in the goals like goal number seven you write that it's District led by Mike so if there are goals that are dist like the safety if that's being District LED more by Mike maybe bifurcate that so when we doing the evaluation specifically for you at the end of the year we can you know uh provide you more feedback on the things you're driving to you and then the other things are more feedback you're providing to your team and you're the you know the person who's empowering them to to Champion that that initiative so of the seven I would say three are really being driven I think by me so be good to and I think you wrote that in the you know in the verbage but you know it's good to then I think that's manageable right yep I mean they're so um specific and well thought out with the action items I mean as someone who does this in my own career so I I like that you have such accountability for your team in this and it helps us I think Empower you to do what you need to do right well thank you so how do you want me to proceed then do you want me just to give a quick overview of the goals I know you've read them all I mean I want to waste your time I mean personally I've read them I understand them I I don't need yeah Ian I don't know we discussion for anyone who's watching focusing on safety communication curriculum once they're once they're approved I I post all my goals online just so everyone who's watching uh the process is posted online as well so so um you know goal one as I talked about is safety goal two um you know we're looking at our policies uh ensuring that that our policies are up to date we've got policies going back to 2002 and three that haven't been reviewed and uh we just need to go through that that book uh goal three again when we talk about curriculum and programming we've had these conversations uh we are kneee already uh with with looking at the middle school um schedule uh with M lashel and um you know we spent what an hour and a half with her today uh walking through our process and what we're looking to do and how we're looking to to um potentially revamp the schedule to be the best it can be for all kids in that building um so this will be stuff that will be coming to the school committee but yes I I went to even the faculty meeting of the middle school it's being driven by me 100% because I don't think the schedule is appropriate uh in terms of providing equity and access for all students in that building so we're going to change it well we will recommend a change and and because because it does have curriculum related um you know ramification some of the things you know we've talked about world languages we've talked about other things it will have to come before the school committee we will be involved okay that's some so so that is important to know um you know educator evaluation I can't remember whether it's in there but another consideration is we've we've had uh resource issues trying to yeah you know adopt expand that program to so it links back to it's in there Resource Management to 100% yeah good that's great so um educator evaluation obviously Mike is is has talked to you about the process we're undertaking right now we started back in in our admin Retreat and talking through exactly what um we are looking for uh and emphasizing um from my perspective where are principles and Deans and anyone who is part of the evaluation process as an evaluator um you know the things we're asking them to do that being said we are also um Mike will be working with um I don't know if Kristen Kristen Scully um who was the union president on years ago we we sat down and talked about the edal and we talked about higher level things that we should be looking for um and we identified key indicators and so it's been since yeah 201 probably 14 13 14 since we did that with the Union uh so we're do undertaking that now um which is is fantastic the learning walks are great uh when when you get a you know an elementary principal coming to the high school high school going to Elementary and to see and and we're looking for the same thing maybe it's student engagement uh right what does it look like at that level um because it can look the same actually believe it or not in terms of the lesson planning uh you know it's done differently obviously with language but um goal five um this comes out of a conversation uh that I've been having here for a long time but also out of a conversation with um Michael Herbert um and he and I have had strategic conversations about where we headed with our facilities especially in the school system and because we recognize the fact that that our modular at the Warren school are now 15 years old uh or no 10 years old 10 years old first year well but they're older they they were already 5 years old before we bought them um but that being said conversations about do we want to are we interested in pway is this isolated school and there are very few and Sarah could probably tell you maybe two or three in the Commonwealth that have a separate building just for a preet it doesn't necessarily make sense in terms of our resources and how we approach things Sarah being also the specializ coordinator the early intervention evaluator but also a principal in a building it's way too much even with seven she's got 78 kids but she's out three or four days a week with early intervention and it's so it becomes you know a real challenge to evaluate all her staff in the building it becomes you know a challenge to manage the complexities of prek um are we looking to expand opportunities in in prek in this in this community we know there's a demand for it but or are we focused on looking at prek as a mandate from the state perspective and those are all questions that we're asking uh but the feasibility study is is what we did before we ended up in the Mendes project if you will um Michael and I were having conversations about does it make sense to to really do another in-depth uh um study of of the pway and the and the Warren school and is there an opportunity to to maybe combine the two schools so we have a prek through uh to school um so again it's it's I know how long this it needs to get started yeah and how long this will take um but it's worth having it that conversation I'm not ready to to throw the baby out with the bath water if you will with at pway I I have to better understand the entire Financial Obligations that we have currently at pitway but then how will that trans you know look like what will it look like in the next five years like do we need a new roof yes we know that do we need a boiler yeah we know that are there other you know Capital Improvements that that facility is going to need and if we're talking millions of dollars are we you know short-sighted and putting millions of dollars into the pitway when we might be able to right you know leverage that to increase warrant I'm getting way deep into the goal but the thoughts that I'm happy but even even with that so say we were to move that building is there it's a it's a community it's a town asset y yep I think we'd either need to still maintain it or do something you can't just let it go derel and and be and so so it's one of those things we have to look at from both both both those lenses of from a community perspective I don't think it's just oh we go here and we don't do anything with that you know we'd have to figure out what the opportunities are sure and from a school perspective the ADA requirements and the variety of things that again I think it's important to have that that feasibility study with a singular focus of looking at that prek through 2 model if you will that's the best so to go from there scenario for that yeah okay District district six goal six talks about communication we had this conversation this summer uh about what we want communication to look like uh when we were at the um summer Workshop um and the one thing that I did add uh in the last two days because I had a really good meeting with esmer about um you know increasing the presence uh in terms of our our social media presence but also um I'm I'm have always wanted more highlights of of students teachers faculty uh you know all staff about what's happening the goods happening uh in pushing that out now some of the things that we want for instance when she um created the um the launch the the um the article about the launch program at the 18 to 22 program right what we ship it off and we we push it to Metro West Daily News we push it to all these other media Outlets they then say well great thanks for giving it to us but they don't share they don't publicize it that's not on us it's sort of I want to make sure that you understand that we are doing those things and I will provide evidence of that we do those things we just don't get a choice if Metro doesn't want to publish it uh things of that nature but something else that has occurred in the past couple months is that our website our our website and our um mass communication tool called Blackboard that has been purchased by another company therefore we need to figure out and um migrate all of this information it's a different setup on the website than what board has uh it's called final site is the company that bought purchased them um so esmer is going to be pulled from her role significantly uh an Canton retired and from the IT department and and she really wasn't she just was the deao web person but esmer has really taken that role on and we have administrative assistants who can publish information but not to a level of of detail that we need and to ensure that these websites are ADA Compliant which they're required to be so she will be working with final site to ensure the migration from Blackboard to final site is not only appropriate but everything that is on the website has been triaged because we have stuff on there that doesn't belong on there anymore so she's going through every one of those um you know sites links Etc and she'll be working with final like that's probably a 20 to 30 hour job a week right now just doing that uh it's pretty significant a question this may be way out of the box but um is there a volunteer opportunity for any students to help with some of that verification some possibly um yeah it's something I can certainly bring up to her and I've asked our principles I think it was the first week of the year I said you need to go to your own website by the way for your school and go through the links yeah and say what's appropriate what's not what we've got in the athletic Pages for instance um we've got people listed who no longer work for us uh we've got teachers who no longer work for us so there's it's not just that component which yeah I certainly think we could have someone go through a site and document you know um what should be changed and what should be taken out the what is challenging is as was not um a website designer that's not her job that was not her job however because of who we are as a district um certain roles have to adapt and and evolve and right now that's one of the roles that we need her to do the IT person I'm sorry is infrastructure it's not you know Mike would say we want to hire another it person but it's for instructional technology in the future we don't have that either like we have so many software you know systems that we use that we don't have a a point person who understands all those systems and can teach and use that um with our faculty I was going to say with the web development piece since there we used to have a staff member that took on that role whether or not that was her expertise or that was that became part of her her job um and you know it's it's shifted to esmer but is this something I mean I have no idea how often these need to be up updated but is this something that could be outsourced is it a is it a job that can be you know potentially is it something that we should look at should we contract that out so esmer can have the time to focus on the other stuff that is on her plate as well and I don't know the answer but so we are tracking hours so that's that's one component too is we're tracking the time that she's spending currently outside of just the the migration of one to another how much time is she putting in on a weekly basis that results in uh changes to the website right these are and I don't want to get too deeply into the weeds with this but these are conversations we will be having from a budgetary perspective as well right but right now this has to get done we Blackboard is going away um and we need to ensure that this gets done um efficiently um timely and you know comprehensively we just have to uh and and she's got that expertise to do that now uh and that's what we'll be how long do you anticipate it'll take like is there a deadline where black boards off yeah we've got to have it done by the end of so beginning of the new school year so it'll be 2025 the possibility that this is going to take up her time for the entire year no okay no no it's just I'm just I just we are adding it in I just want you to know that all the stuff that that that we're put in here for key actions for her there you have to also understand that there's a component here because of losing this um contract with Blackboard I just don't want to lose sight of that it's going to be a significant time um that is well spent in my opinion to ensure that this is accurate information I guess my request would be is that we follow up on this relatively soon maybe within a couple months so that you can share with us if this is still taking up the the bulk of her time so that we can I don't know have a discussion it still needs to be done and I know that I'm not suggesting it come off of her um but just I I think it's important for us to have a conversation because of her time is going to be shifted I feel like this there have been a number of different things that have taken her um attention needed which needed to be away from some of the exactly the um the goal of bringing her position on and so I think it it's important to have an ongoing conversation to make sure that the the reason she was brought on we're still able to achieve that goal as well too and how do we best do that understanding that things need to take PR as as long as we keep it focused on the goal I don't want to get too much it's only phras it's only phrasing I don't want to get into micromanaging her time that's not our role um but you I don't think you meant that but the key actions and benchmarks that that we've got here yeah if those are not being met then that's on me right I mean that's the bottom line so myob job is to manage the the individual in terms of making sure that these things are being done right so uh and then the last one uh again this really does relate more to the um you know the curriculum instruction side with the mtss process um you know the open Architects and student competing dashboard we've talked a lot about and Mike and I had this conversation today uh about individual success plans for all students right um and we're get we will get there and I have no doubt we'll be there probably the next couple years um which is something I've been talking about for a long long time here uh that being said um you know Mike did you just want just briefly talk about that you know the dashboard yeah sure so um I've been working closely you know with open Architects to make sure that the portal that we have in our dashboards are really built to our exact specifications and what we are looking for and one of the things that they're doing for us right now is they're building what's called a student companion ultimately the student companion dashboard will be a way for us to track all interventions uh all accommodations and all specific resources that are provided for each one of our students um and that will follow them throughout their time in Ashland so one of the things that I'm I'm really looking forward to is how we can now incorporate our bcap and Decap accommodations for each one of our students so once this student companion is built they're current putting in the entire bcap and Decap that we developed over the course of the last few years with dropdown menus for each of the different accommodation areas during a during a student meeting um where we're determining whether or not a student needs to go into an intervention so you know for lack of a better term during an ntss style meeting now they can pull up this dashboard they can drop down put the plan in place into the dashboard uh put notes in there be able to have each student tracked um how how is it going how is there specific data that is associated with these different accommodations that have been provided and that will again follow a student year to year ultimately this is what we'll be utilizing for our issps um because every every student is represented on the dashboard if you if you take a look at the you know um the other dashboards that we have we have all student data throughout so this will also include all that information as well so it's it's something that's going to take some time uh it's going to involve some specific training for our um Administration and then for our teachers as well um and this this is also a work that's continued from the work that has been started at uh Warren with the S3 team that was that was brought in um by that Grant and uh it's something that has been done in menen Upton who you know is a partner District of our and they've had some success so we we have uh you know some folks that we can talk to as well to help us with any challenges that we may have but I'm I was given the uh a little bit of a test run the other day about some of the things that they've already implemented for us it looks good so far but it's in their you know their internal review process right now but um I was hopeful that we would be um you know up and running by early November I'm not sure if that's what it's going to be but it's we're going to be really close so it's it's it looks good so far and I'm excited to bring it to everybody ni excellent so those are the seven and I have no problem keeping all seven on I'm just you know can I ask one more question and go back to communication for one second because this was something that I gave Jim some feedback on and one of the things that I had a question for and I'm curious what other people think is whether or not um there's value in doing additional surveys um and not knowing how how esmer is is pulled for the website not pulled but how her time is being taken up for the website whether or not that's something I'm just curious as to other people's opinions and with in the intention of not um spreading asmer or you too thin in terms of the deliverables um you know surveys about communication or surveys about top yeah no survey to the community to determine if communication needs are being met and what's most important I think I don't know I I'm some of some of the goals that we've had like people don't even know what they're missing if they haven't seen it yet you know what I mean that to like highlight students and teachers and things like that like I think we need to get a good handle on getting some of that stuff out and then maybe gather some feedback about what's working and not working I think otherwise then we get things about oh I'm not hearing from my teacher enough or you know all these things that we've kind of been spinning in the air for years and years and we finally got a person on board to kind of um streamline some of these things but we have all these other things that are coming up I mean I personally would like to see us push out the things that we intended on pushing out before getting more feedback which is probably just going to be more of the same feedback that we've already received in the past that's my feeling yeah yeah I I guess I I sort of start my answer the way Lori did not sure which right my my gut instinct on it is that when when we've done surveys in the past quite frankly we get fairly decent marks in terms of communication even though I think as a group in this room we've questioned sort of why things certain things aren't happening or or why we can't do better on certain things right now we that's not say we haven't made progress over time at all um but it does kind of leave me in a similar spot to where Lori is like let's let's see this stuff happen first let's get closer to where we all wanted to be and and maybe that's going to shift too um and then see whether people are responding positively to it so I I think between that and my just general reaction of I'd rather keep the goal simple and and keep our input around the goal rather than the my computer died so keytion yeah the key actions and benchmarks I'd rather kind of stay away from getting into that unless there's something that people felt really strong about um so my inclination did maybe it should be stated in the goal and but I I personally I mean I'm glad I know you were the one who raised this um as another goal I'm glad you did because I think um our goals should reflect our to some Paul's comments are they should be respect respect reflecting excuse me what we're trying to do what's important and I think this is a place where we have been talking about this and pushing on this in different forms for a while and what's identified in this draft goal is something that I think we envisioned a couple of years ago and has yet to come to fruition so I I'm glad we're we're adopting it as a goal but i' probably get that's fair I guess my feedback is if something needs to go I think the surveys is it would be a fine thing to go but we're not get into those weeds that's just my thought yeah we don't need to get into those weeds but I guess yeah no I I kind of just pick back on that I think that the goals we've always set are I think your point things that they don't know they're missing yet and so relative to the goals I don't think a survey would help unless you said hey we wanted to give you these um but I also want to make sure when we send out surveys they have enough meat on the bone um but that doesn't mean that if if you know I don't know if we have something like there's can there be a how we doing you know button on these things and and get the get that little bit of feedback that you you might you might be if it's only you know a couple of points maybe there's something like how we doing that we could do that isn't like a broadcast survey because you want to be careful how many times you do that as well right right um so I think there there might be a way to you know might be a way to get some kind of feedback you know if you will I mean I know they have the click we have feedback on tracking how many people read and all the other things but U right and there's so many different like levels of communication like how they're feeling about the classroom you know how they're feeling about the newsletters which are fantastic like they have been streamlined and they're going out every week and they they're consistent and and that's great and hopefully people are noticing you know there's so many different I think it just might bring a lot of information to us that isn't going to change the scope of what we're trying to focus on yeah right now but at some point after we get some of that there's nothing I mean if there's ever a specific need for it or we're better placed in March which I'm going ask that happened so so Jim are you so are you good all them with the seven or are you were you looking to I am fine have something fall off I mean it's that's all stuff that's happening it's just a matter of whether we bring it to the focus we're yeah so I I move to approve the superintendent's goals as presented second all in favor hi hi thank you okay guys so next up are the resolutions Marcy for your benefit you probably figured this out already but and I know you can't attend the conference neither can I um at the conference every year there's a meeting of um whoever can attend from all the different communities that attend the conference and we vote um as a committee on these resolutions so we have to have a meeting to get ourselves on the same page about how the committee is voting on these resolutions and if a representative can go that person goes on that day and votes um the way the committee U Wishes the question is um whether before we delve into and there are quite a few things on the resolutions this year um and some of them are big big deals but um do we even have somebody who is available to do this Mark is often working during the conference I think you're are you teaching this time as well yeah I'm doing it but I think this is on Friday afternoon now I think that's instead of Saturday like it has been yeah I think so I think they didn't get great attendance on the Saturday thing so I think it's Friday afternoon I don't intend to to stay that long yeah personally um my intention is probably to come back early afternoon on Friday so you know I think when we talked with Jim about setting the agenda what we were talking about is tonight let's just find out if anybody wants to participate is available to participate because if not then we don't even need to talk about the resolutions right right like typically you know we've we've been out of there by early Friday morning there's no more classes right that day so there's you'd be whoever does it would be hanging around for this purpose if there's something I want to I want to want to verify that I'm correct on what the agenda looks like for the conference but you can try to look it up but you up okay so I would think it I think it would boil down to you know Paul or Tina if you were still planning on I'm not a to be there you're not going to be there okay I'll be there for the rest of it but I won't be able to be there not it all right so that's it's not worth just make sure make sure that it's on Friday yeah so let's see under the events appear I think yeah that's this page so I'm try to is it yeah here we go yeah just this in the mail yeah right so Friday it's the delegate assembly right doesn't look like anyone's gonna go yeah uh delegate registration Del assembly yeah it's 3:15 um so it doesn't look like or it doesn't anybody's going to be there at that point okay so it's it's because we don't have a representative it's not um it's not worth going down the rabbit hole of the conversation I know there are some things on um the agenda that relate to you know some topics that are um important and that are concerns for all of us but if we're not sending a delegate then there's no point in having the conversation here right now whever I'm stop sharing with all right next clubs and activities uh so we have a debate club uh we've had a debate Club at the high school in years excuse me in years past uh they've just uh restarted up or they've started up again um and it was under originally under the JSA is what was in the junior state affairs um and what they're looking to do is just have their checking account what happened is the the club eventually dissolved uh for the last few years so the money then goes into the activity account of the high school itself uh so what Kelly's asking to do is have that checking account open back up or that activity account open back up again okay you have a motion for that are there any funds being seated into it or I I that I don't believe so Paul but um when when she and I spoke about about it she did not mention that but there could be funding that was left over well that's and that and I don't I'd have to go back when it dissolved if there was x amount is is it being seated with x amount again back from let see if it's on here high school it's not on there yeah so not not that that's our necessarily our purview within those accounts we typically so yeah they have not started yeah so this is Rec this is to set up the account correct okay y y and then there's also one for the class of 2028 attached to it as well too so I just where was that it's on page two she didn't tell me that we just talked about JSA okay just want to make sure if we make a motion we recognize but what's included in it as well yep okay yep establish the club or re establish the the account the activity account and 2028 is obviously new because it's fresh and class okay yeah so I believe the club was like no there was no attendance no meetings nothing like that and so uh a couple of my friends actually got together and we're like okay we should start a new Debate Club so I actually served as the treasurer for that last year um and this year I'm the student representative but again we didn't have any funds so it wasn't I was Treasure but really it was Treasure of nothing exactly bookkeeping right there it was just club for our friends just hanging out but this year here we're grown to around 50 oh wow and yeah so in the Google Classroom actually I'll pull it up um we have I love this live gonna say that's live feedback we 46 students in the Google Classroom wow great that's fantastic um we just had a bake sale as well so if this now they will have fun are you still the treasure uh no I'm student representative okay excellent I'm thrill that you guys did that because I think there are a handful of clubs and activities that probably fell off because of covid and then it's taken a while so I'm thrilled to know that you guys are jumping back in with those thank you so so Jim I think we can go forward just the the agenda item is it's really Vue really vague okay um so Ian I think I'm comfortable going forward but we should actually as we continue in the future yeah say Hey you know them out list them out but also just say hey we're talking about you know you know create creating Student Activity account right even if we didn't list them if we know them we should probably list them but it could be that you get them you know hey it might be two or three or whatever but but just clubs and activities is pretty big yep and when we do the motion uh remember we uh also should authorize the principal to expend the fund yeah you know you want to make the motion no but I guess you talk you're hired all right uh I move to approve the creation of the St two Student Activity accounts as presented and to authorize uh the building principal to uh manage the funds and accounts and the two clubs that are presented are uh Debate Club and a class of 2028 I'll second the motion all in favor I I excellent okay all right consent agenda move to approve the consent agenda second all in favor I hi I like that that's nice the things that we could just take a look at see if we're all good with oh my God that was like therapy well you do need some help we made one good change on the agenda there you just figuring that out I didn't know this okay um School Committee Member reports AB I know we already heard from you earlier but if you have anything else that you want to share at this time what you've been up to uh not particularly so we did have a meeting with Miss S as you mentioned yesterday during Xbox so I don't know if you guys all know what Xbox is it's just yeah so we we met there and all our members were able to attend um but unfortunately we didn't have everyone here for this meeting um but yeah I think we mentioned pretty much everything I just again wanted to say the Chromebooks came in um didn't but um other than that it's started a good school year awesome good yeah it's rolling right along Marcy I don't have anything Tina Jim already shared the update I was going to share on the lighting the way award so it was great I was glad I was able to be there last night uh I attended Fall Fest uh uh over the weekend and so uh that's a great event uh thank you Jamie trip and and Tim McKay for putting that on it's uh it's a fundraiser for uh some of our uh town and school teams and it's also just great Community event uh so we need more of those things uh I also uh recently attended the services for Roy CA um he recently passed away after Battle of cancer for those who don't know him he was he worked with DPW uh we worked with them closely on the Mendes project and and obviously Jim and and Mike work with them regularly in the past uh with snow days and everything like that and and it's just uh you know sad because he was he's a really good great guy and so uh it's unfortunate but thoughts and prayers with his family and friends so thanks Paul um I I just have one item I was um today we had the first site council meeting at the high school um this afternoon um they had a big crowd of people uh which is great I mean there probably 20 people around the table four students a number of parents um the same staff members who' been involved historically but um seem like a good group and and Kelly spent some time just talking about the things that they've been working on last year and and some of the things that they'll carry forward um two consistent themes that we've heard tonight one is um cell phone policy consistency seems to be fairly well received um and then the other one was talking about clubs and that there seems to be a significant increase in the number of clubs but really small numbers of kids in each and they kind of pop up when a group is interested and then fade away when the couple of kids that were really interested were kind of graduate or lose interest or whatever um so there was some discussion about you know what what can they do with that and the idea one of the comment that was made was you know maybe what we actually need is fewer clubs so that more kids together and kind of building more camaraderie and school spirit because you have larger congregations of people rather than three people over here doing this and three people over there doing that um but it was just kind of a a conversation um kind of came came out of came know excuse me organically um but I thought that was interesting feedback and the other thing um Kelly highlighted was know she anticipates continue to work on the the grading um issue and and didn't get into substantive discussions but sort of whether we continue with weighted grading or not um is an ongoing conversation but she's very clear people like just exploration you know and people shouldn't necessarily think because we're talking about it that A change is going to come about and um so we'll see where that goes um I attended the wellness subcommittee meeting yesterday um last year really the whole year was consumed with with writing these policies that we've been reviewing lately they did an excellent job it was a lot of work and it pretty much took the whole year of meetings um and now that they're done um there can be some more focus on just more of the um the details about wellness and how it can fit into our curriculum and and other areas of what we do um and get more creative about um sharing that out with with the buildings and the staff um I I will share just in light of what you were saying earlier Jim about the challenges of getting people to go into education and stay in education and rise up through the ranks um there is somebody on the wellness committee that um Works in another town after having worked in Ashlin and they were saying um in the committee meeting about how like great it was to work here and now seeing um what it's like in in other places you know just I mean and not to toot our own Hornet just if if we're having trouble here because we get that a lot people comment on that we function well as a committee um and the administrative team is so strong and great and we have all these great collaborations in town and you know if we're struggling in those areas and and we're considered you know by others who have now other things to compare it to um you know it's a great environment and we still can't get that going then that that's that's a real problem yeah sure is uh but anyhow um it was certainly nice to hear the good feedback on on what we do here in town um and that's it for me yeah any else motion no it's time good motion to adj yes second all in favor I thank you everybody
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a while come back leave for a while come back so Sarah and I wanted to sit down and really talk about what we did and the painful process for both of us on on how she got to be here and before I start I just want to say what happened with us is not unique in any way it's the same that for anyone with addiction problems you'll hear the same kinds of stories but for Sarah and I we were always really close and I was afraid this was going to just destroy our relationship Al together and I'm so glad it didn't so um do you want to kind of start and talk about where you started off and what was kind of happening when you started drinking um sure I started well I drank casually through high school and then when I turned 17 I had an incident with an ex-boyfriend where Al I turned alcohol from a feeling of loneliness and I felt that's where I started to become dependent on it and once I realized it made me feel better I used that in most situations and it wasn't that bad right away it from 17 and I'm 29 now and I've been so sober since um February 4th 2022 and it's not my first time getting sober um but yeah it so when Sarah was living with her boyfriend at the time I knew I I saw some signs of drinking but it was normal high school drinking you know you go out you party you come home she was a homebody she was home every night but when she started dating this man I started to notice some different behaviors I noticed some behaviors from him I didn't really like and then the turning point was really on Easter Sunday I went to get Sarah she was not answering her phone she had not answered a call in days and for anyone who was a child just a pit hit my stomach and on Easter Sunday I just said that's it I'm going over to his house and I went over to his house and Sarah opened the door with this Shiner and I'll tell you for the people that know me I wanted to go into that house and just kill that kid and there are some lessons I have learned since I had Sarah but before I had her when I was pregnant and there's this woman my closest friend's mother who's here today I'm so glad because she's a big part of the story and she doesn't even know it so I'm she said to me when I was pregnant with Sarah once you have her it's going to be the first time you could actually kill somebody and I thought true well I have wanted to kill people in the past it's been pretty close I thought I could kill someone yep but it really was true it was a feeling that came over me like no other feeling I had ever felt I was sick and what made it worse is Sarah didn't come home with me she made a choice to stay and that's at that moment when I drove away I knew alcohol had her not the boyfriend not the being out of the house the alcohol had her because she had other stuff going on too she was a strange from her father I mean there were other stuff I was a single mom we were struggling so when you didn't come home that's when I started to think about okay what's my plan of action here and what do I have to do to help her and shortly after this is when Sarah started calling for help but she only called when she was drunk drunk I did not get a call sober for a little while and so I had to really learn to know that voice I and I because I couldn't see her because if I saw her I could tell I knew when she was crying I knew when she was drinking I knew when she was hungry you just know so now I had to be able to tell on the phone what was going on and that was probably one of the hardest things because she was so so come hi Mom just wondering you know if I could have a few dollars and at that point when I said no it was like a switch and that was when things just entered into a whole another phase because she wanted what she wanted when she wanted it right you weren't working yeah so why don't you talk a little bit about after Andrew and kind of where where that went from there you want yeah sure um well eventually left that relationship but while leaving that I did initially turned to alcohol even though I was under 21 I I had I got a hold of it and it made me feel better then I started working at a sports bar and I worked there for about two years from like 19 to 21 and there is when I was working in the back with the kitchen and so drinking was pretty common there the head chef had given me someone's ID that they left behind when I was 19 and then I started going out drinking with them met somebody who was already in full-blown alcohol addiction started a relationship with them wasn't thinking straight throughout all of that I had I got suspended from work for a week so I didn't really have consequences to my actions yet um and yeah so it basically once I started that relationship with someone already in alcohol addiction that's who I was drawn to it was easier for me because I did just wanted I wanted what made me feel better what made me feel better and then I didn't that's when selfishness pretty much took over and tunnel vision yeah and so when Sarah was working at the platform this is you know we all know where we were when 911 hit right we all know certain events in our lives we know where we were we know what we were doing and this night I was watching Barney Miller with Joe I don't know if anyone knows that show except me and Mrs Kelly maybe maybe Angela does anybody know Barney Miller it's an old show I'm watching it and I get a call and I can't even Sarah I can't even understand her she's just sobbing hysterically and in between the sobbing she's saying assaulted and I'm thinking what finally figure out that the chefs in the kitchen had assaulted her and it had been going on for some time so again I got in the car against Joe's wishes and I might have put a baseball bat in the car I'm not sure but it was this BL mind rage and I went down to the restaurant and the girl was sitting at the front Sarah was outside I hadn't found her yet and she explained to me don't worry about it everything's okay we took care of it Sarah is going to work at the front of the house and not go in the kitchen and I went you're kidding me right and right at that moment I saw the chef come one of the chefs come out then I got up and I said a couple things to him then she wanted at that point wanted to call the police but I all I saw she had tunnel vision I had tunnel vision whoever is g to hurt Sarah I'm going to hurt them not even really addressing the alcohol part of this yet so I left there and explained to them that we would be filing charges and we kind of did all that but Sarah came home and she move back home yeah I had been living with the active alcoholic while I worked there for about two years drinking daily before work all day all day Drinker yeah so it had where I needed the alcohol at that point so I was it pretty much had me at the grasp right there yep so I had to decide at this point should I let her come back and live in the house and I said talk to Joe about it and I said I'm going to do it but there's going to be some stipulations they're going to have rules well she didn't want any part of that she had been living on her own yeah before that throughout a couple apartments there were several instances of when I drank um calling people that this welfare checks a couple evictions so it was already hard for you to let me move back yeah she had um she was struggling living in one place because the drinking you know she wasn't working steady um and I was very nervous about it so I had to really plan ahead another visit to Mrs Kelly I go see her I'm in Westfield so I go by her house and we were talking and I was telling her what was going on with Sarah and she looked at me and she said you know Danielle here's the thing this is going to be a difficult ult process and I just remember thinking no this is a difficult process now what do you it's gonna get worse she goes it's gonna get bad but you can do it you can do it just listen and I said okay I'm GNA go and just listen and I tried but it got to the point where Sarah was just doing whatever she wanted she was coming home drunk and she was just combative she want she wanted to fight just fight fight fight she had a lot of anger inside of her from these relationships and I was the punching bag but I got it I understood it you know I had Joe with me and he was trying to explain this to me as well but she would also in the interm of being in and out of the house I would get a call from the police saying we have Sarah here the first call I ever got from the police was shortly after she moved in and when I saw that unknown number I just knew and Sarah hadn't been in trouble with the police at this time so I could hear her sobbing in the back and the officer let me talk to her and she was begging me begging me to please come get her I could tell she was like almost ready to throw up sobbing and I just just I took the phone I put the phone down and I just remember sitting and thinking what is the wrong thing to do and I knew what that was so then I just did the opposite I told the officer thank you for calling I'm not coming and he said thank you because most mothers would be right down here getting their kid I went nope then this whole journey Starts Now this other now we're in a whole another phase of the drinking because I don't really know how much she is drinking I know she's drinking a lot but I don't know at this point that she's drinking first thing in the morning and I'm also denying any knowledge I have of this disease and thinking well Sarah's got to be different my brother's a recovering alcoholic and addict he's been sober for 29 years I started to relate her to him which wasn't good it it was different but once the police called me then I knew we were kind of in for a ride and then she met this man I mean there was a lot of fighting and arguing and stealing and actually no stealing No Stealing Sarah never took any money she never took anything from me nothing and so that's why associating her with my brother's story was different because my brother did and Sarah just wasn't just wasn't doing that wasn't showing those behaviors but then she met this young man he came to the house and another day I will never forget he had this big fur coat on and he came in and he smelled like marijuana and I just went here we go again because Sarah didn't feel good about herself so that you can't attract goodness if you don't feel good inside um and she moved in with him you want to talk a little bit about you want to talk about that time the yeah I could talk about that time there was an instance I can bring up before I moved out when I was living at home yeah where I don't think you knew how much I was drinking but that first time you tried to section me yeah that happened before so I moved in with chamelle okay and so that's right that's pretty significant part because I had was living at home and I was in my room and it was early in the morning and I took like three shots you called me out to the living room and there were three officers there and I didn't know what a SE 35 was but where they take you and you're going to go to the courthouse and handcuffs and then you see a judge and they determine if if you're going to go to a treatment facility so they took me and I told them in the cell that I didn't drink way less than what I was drinking and I went in front of the judge and they let me go that day and I was already kind of and I had drinks in me yeah so that was like I think talk a little bit I don't have a problem yeah cuz that was and then I walked home yeah that so sometimes we forget when you go through a traumatic experience you forget these details and they're just huge they're huge because a whole another section of this is the courts the court system how we help addicts and alcoholics how we help the mental ill how we just how the court system the police department I knew what a section meant section 35 means you and there's tricky things about this I know this law I know this process like the back of my hand now in order to section someone first you go to the court you have to petition it so you speak to a clerk and you have to write page after page of everything that's gone on then you hand that back then they hand it to an officer they have to serve her with the papers but first they have to find her and if they don't find her by 3 o'clock that shifts over I have to go back at 3:30 and do the whole thing all over again I have to fill out the paperwork hand it to the clerk it's the same system when this done when this was done a year later I went back to the clerk and I got her some flowers because she was so helpful and so calm with me because I was sobbing and she's like okay just fill this out fill this out like and of course the officers could not find her so they would call me and say you got to come back so then I started looking for her and someone had told me she was in and this is cold weather now we're getting into winter weather and I went down to this tent community in Northampton and as I'm I parked my car and as I'm walking down I can see these women coming out of the this the wooded area and I thought oh my God it's just like a stab in your gut because you know your kids's in there and I asked around and these girls were so nice and I really wanted to take all of them home with me I was like do you want to just come home with me I'll get you some help but she knew I was trying to section her so she was not going to make it easy for me so these women told me you know there's her tent over there I went oh I didn't know this was happening at the time yeah I was on the run she was running she was running she did not want to because she didn't know what was going to happen when she got sectioned so what happens is there's only one facility in this state for women and that's in New Haven New Bedford New Bedford what's the name of it woman's addiction treatment center waty waty so waty is run by recovering alcoholics and addicts you only had to be sober at that time how long six six months 6 months to work at this facility you can only stay there 30 days when Sarah went to court I thought okay now she's going to be sectioned she'll go to court I'm listening to the judge and he looks at Sarah and he says Sarah you're too pretty to be getting into trouble like this I went are you kidding me well this guy next to me who had a son up there goes I hope he talks to my son like that I went no you don't so he let her go and as she's walking by me and I mean we can talk about this now but boy it was hard when she'd said it she walked by me and just mouthed I hope you die and I went okay talk to you later Sarah good luck today I don't know where you're going I had to just I I did not want to cry I didn't want to get upset and then I looked at that judge and went we're not done buddy we are not done you and me so I did write a letter to the paper I did speak to him personally and he not only did it once but he did it twice more he let her go three times and that three times he let her go and the fourth time finally they took her and then two more times after that and then two more times after that so when he went to waty this facility in New Bedford looks like a prison it's you know Barbed wires it does not look like a facility that gives any type of treatment and there was a woman outside swearing like no tomorrow on the phone and I said they let you come out and have cigarettes she goes what are you talking about I work here I went oh that's nice that's nice do you know Sarah my daughter are you her counselor I just thought how is this but this is our system we want people to get help but we don't give them a pathway to get it we don't give them the right pathway because when I went to get Sarah after the 30 days the first [Music] time I pulled in there and she said do you really want to know what it's like in there I said well if you want to tell me she said well have you seen Orange is the New Black because that's pretty pretty much it women are setting off alarms women are right yeah it was yeah I mean it was people would run away from there and then OD the next day we would hear about it because it's not in a good part so yeah but for there you have to have somewhere to go home after and the first time you let me come home after yep I let her come home and I really talked talked it out with Joe and I also talked about it with my dad and my dad really struggled with my brother's addiction and really enabled him you know he would come home and say he needed things and they'd give him money and I needed I wanted him to know what was going on with Sarah I wanted him to really understand that when I had to tell him she's homeless why because he would never my brother was never homeless never kicked out of the house and that was 100% Choice by me yeah to be be homeless because I wanted to drink yeah every day yep and um so now we're in this phase where Sarah's getting sectioned and she's drinking and she's just she's falling apart and I was falling apart too because it was the phone calls it's like chipping away at sanity you're just chipping away chipping away and she would call me when she was drunk and demand that I give her help and then when I wouldn't give her the help she wanted because I would tell her if you want something to eat go down to Antonio's I'll get you something to eat I'm not giving you any money I'm not doing it and once Sarah heard that she this violence in her she just she just went right to the heart of my emotions because she was struggling I was struggling and I think at that time I think did you think you could wear me down like did you think you could I would give in um I don't really know at that point I I don't think I was trying to wear you down specifically I just I couldn't stop the the pattern I was I was on so then what what happened is now a year two years is going by and we're still going through this and then another incident I'm walking with my co-workers walking with my co-workers in ammer after work one day one of them was my boss and we were in ammer and we cut across the street to go to Johnny's and I could hear Sarah on the street I could hear her yelling and I just went oh Jesus this is not going to be good and I could see her my peripheral vision and I just just thought I just got to get in the restaurant well then I hear Danielle Danielle this is something I don't remember yeah at all and my co-workers looked at me I went I feel bad for her mother I don't know who that is but this isn't going to be good and my cooworker goes Danielle she just said your name I went oh she did and then we walked into the restaurant and I completely ignored it we in front of the window and here comes Sarah right in front of the window she goes I see you and then I looked at my friends I went okay that is my daughter that's Sarah just let's eat and ignore it because the police are coming someone had already called the police and my co-workers I mean I just sat there eating I was just eating my co-workers were looking at me like Daniel what are you what are you doing I said there's nothing I can do right now she's in a bad place she does not want me to come out and talk to her I have to leave her alone and they said she's going to get arrested I said I know that's what has to happen he go Danielle what where is she G to go I said I don't know and that is the hardest thing to have to say when you don't know what's going to happen to your child I don't know I don't know where she's going to sleep tonight I don't know if someone is going to try to hurt her I don't know if she's going to try to kill herself I don't know if she's going to hurt someone else the worst fear is death the worst fear I had every single night I went to bed was that Sarah was going to hurt herself and die alone and then this one night I get another call from the police going so your daughter's in a hotel room and Northampton you need to come get her we're going to section 12 her so section 12 is when the police do it so we go to this hotel room she did not want to leave she gets on the stretcher and as they're Wheeling her out she yells to the clerk am I welcome back here they were like no not I go yeah don't worry she's not coming back here but Sarah because she's female and pretty she got a lot of people to help her so I would get calls like this I get a call from my Uber driver she goes do you know where your daughter is right now I said who is this she goes I'm an Uber driver and I just brought your sis your daughter to the Marriott do you remember that I don't remember her calling you what she got you the room oh yeah yeah she goes I got her room at Marriott I went what you got her a room at the Marriott she goes what kind of mother are you I went um did you give her your number because if you didn't I am I'm gonna give her your number she can call you next time she needs help and this woman called me every name in the book I went I hope you never have an addict in your life never so Sarah had all these allowances given to her I'm like she's never going to get sober if people keep just helping her so after that is when things I started to see a change in Sarah she was just getting tired I could see it in her face she had Joe to talk to Joe's in recovery too so they had this camaraderie where they could talk to each other about what was happening and Sarah didn't have to say much she could he just understood her because really and Sarah's kind of like that just naturally once she gets flustered she doesn't like to talk too much she's like it's too much so Joe really knew that about her so they their relationship got stronger and stronger and stronger I also didn't know during this time that Andrew my son was paying for her to get rides everywhere he was paying for Ubers so I called him up and I said what's going on buddy you've been helping your sister out he goes I can't do much Mom I'm up here you know at school I can't really do anything but I can make sure she gets home safe or gets to wherever she's going safe and I thought okay I can't tell him how to interact with her I can't tell him not to give her help not to give her money I can't do that even if Joe said hey I'm gonna give Sarah $100 okay I can't be in control of that I can only I could only be in control of what I was doing and saying and the worry started to change I stopped working I stopped thinking of the sectioning I stopped that because Sarah then had a fear right that I was every time yeah why don't you talk about that because that's important also the sectioning the first section happened Christmas time six months later I get sectioned again so first time didn't really work the second time I got out of the section and I went to pick up my purse at the police station and I opened my purse and all of my full nips were still in there from when I got arrested and I relapsed before I got home so and then the third section so by that time I don't know if that was working but I was tired yeah and yeah's good to get sober in the moment and keep you sober for 30 days but they don't really prepare you too much for when you get out and the last time she was section they had called me and said you know we're we're releasing her we're discharging her I said she can't come home they said well where is she going to go I said that's not my problem she cannot come home and they dropped her off at my house without me there and I could not believe it and I'll tell you I went I don't mess around with the people down below I went right to the mayor I mean the governor the governor and I wrote letters I wrote letters to watsy I WR I'm a letter writer I am a letter writer and I was livid because here's Sarah I got the house to myself now I wasn't home I was at work so I started noticing she looked different she was dressing different she just looked tired and weepy all the time and I knew that look meant we're turning a corner I just have to keep up what I'm doing I cannot give her money I cannot even think when I look at her and she looks so put together and she's talking to me calmly and saying I'm going to do the right thing I'm working this is where I'm working this is what I'm doing I'm going to get a car I'm going it is very easy to be tricked into thinking she's okay here's some money I couldn't do it I couldn't let her use my car nothing and I think at that time Joe and I were looking at moving and I thought what are we going to do when we move to Springfield is she going to come with us is she going to stay with this boyfriend what is going to happen and things with him were getting very violent and aggressive and there were a couple incidents between me and him and the police said listen Danielle if you come to this apartment again with maybe a baseball bat you will be arrested and I looked at the officer and I said do you have a daughter he goes yes and I know exactly how you feel I go then you won't arrest me and he just looked at me he said Danielle it's not going to help Sarah not to arrest him it's not going to I go well can you arrest her then at least when Sarah was in a jail cell or at watsy I slept only time I slept and I mean like I was out like a light but if she was out running around I was up all night I had people looking for her and a lot of times that made me drink the next day what made me start that was the guilt of those phone calls yeah and the guilt of everything I did the day before and then that that's what it was at also yeah and then Joe and I moved and Sarah came with us and I said I'm going to allow this but there are some things now that have to change and I gave her a list of conditions and she did every single one of them she went and got a counselor because alcoholism and addiction AA was not something at the time she wanted to do but AA and therapy in combination that is what is the most successful and Sarah had found a therapist she was using an amazing organization in Springfield um out of the sheriff's department and she started talking to people that was the thing she started talking to a counselor talking to sober people and that was after my last arrest which was that week of February 2022 when I just did not want to get arrested again yeah that was like the amount of times you can get arrested and not spend time in jail I was hitting that point so yeah was ready yeah and we had an incident where when we first moved into the apartment I knew it was going to be hard for her but I told her she can't keep her door closed and there's these what happens is if you know anyone who's an addict they have personal items that are like a trigger they become a trigger and for me it was her pocket book she could stuff so many nit in that pocket book it was amazing I I was like what the heck this little tiny pocket book I cannot even look at an she does not bring a pocketbook in the house anymore I have to ask her please do not bring it in it's an instant trigger for me people have these and you don't sometimes you don't realize it so what I realized was when she would come over I would get instantly agitated and then I started looking looking at the pocketbook hanging up and I realized it wasn't her irritating me it was that pocketbook it represented something I wanted nothing to do with I didn't want to look at it nothing so she stopped doing that she stopped bringing it in but we had an incident where she had been it was when we first moved in I had just been living back yeah for and she had been drinking and I said sorry this is there's no three stri strikes here I called the police and Sarah was more mad I I just she was so angry with me and then I realized the police were not the people to call because they came and they're talking to her and then I see them drive away but as they're driving away Sarah is driving past them in her car so she got into her car drove around them I ran out and stopped them and said she is drinking and driving right now now you can arrest her no we can't ma'am they did let me go that day I said what he said we can't arrest her because we don't know she's drunk I went this is where we're at with the police this is it right here this situation she's drunk driving Well ma'am that's you telling us I go so you're going to wait till she either kills herself or kills someone else and then they got aggravated with me and they left and she was gone you came back that night and uh after she came back that night that was the end you did not when you were once once that happened and you came back and we sat down and we all talked about this that was I looked at Sarah's face and and I just knew she had had it I had seen that face before with people I recognized it and I just thought finally finally we're getting to this point and it's okay if it's not perfect but we are get we're turning a corner here and you for me the first step we had to make was Mig go to a detox for two weeks not a good one but it was a detox for two weeks which I did and then yes that was that's right that's right you found me one we went to court and I I was on probation also for probably 10 years of this back and forth yeah so until May of this past year so that also I wasn't mad to be on probation but that was the agreement yeah I wasn't allowed to drink but to live in the house yeah yeah so that day I took her to court and this is God's way of saying okay Danielle I'm about to intervene in a whole another way in your life so we get to court and I walk in and I hear this woman in front of the judge sobbing about her son and she turns and her son was a client of mine at one time she was trying to get him section again and she's sobbing so we left the courtroom and she came out and I introduced her to Sarah do you remember what she said to you maybe not yeah exactly she was crying and she said Sarah don't do this to yourself oh yeah don't do this to your mother don't do this to the people you love and you know they always say you don't want to get sober for other people okay why not why not why can't we change that saying because I think it kind of stinks and Sarah gave her a hug went in front of the judge came out she was already done and she said I'm ready to go and I brought her to wer to the shittiest looking I mean this place looked mice were crawling over me in my sleep horrific there was people sleeping in the one man urinated on himself in the hallway and I'm sitting there thinking can I leave my daughter here yes I can it wasn't that hard actually I realized it really wasn't that hard you get to a point where you're just like I don't care if I drop her off in the middle of the desert something has to change so she she went and um you know Sarah is one of those people that makes the best out of a situation she really does and you left there with some funny stories she has was on probation it seemed like her whole life these probate I mean but if any of you know anything about probation officers they don't usually give gift cards and gifts and parties they love Sarah because she never missed a urine test she she would get called you got to go now so it didn't matter what she was doing she had to explain to her boss and everyone has to do this if you have been arrested and you have to do random drug testing they call you you tell them the col they tell you the color right if you have that color it does not matter you could be having lunch with the Pope and you have to say I have to go take a urine test excuse me doesn't they don't care so people lose their jobs they Sarah got lucky she she had employers that were very good to her and they listened to her and trusted her because she was a hard worker but she never in all those years missed going down there one time her probation officer called me at the end and said we're really Gonna Miss S I said are you yes I'm sure you will you'll never see her again hopefully so I hope you had a touch in goodbye the last uh the last time she was in there but in doing this is there anything is is there anything you'd like to impart anything you learned anything that you could tell a parent um don't give up on on your kid don't give up on your kid it is a battle with yourself and it gets easier every day and and then it gets fun to do better and yeah there there is a light at the the tunnel there is there is and I and I knew it was there because I had people in my life like Connie Kelly who I could just go over and visit with who would make me feel better in three minutes she raised about 15 kids of her own I don't even know how many kids grandkids she was the word of wisdom for me she didn't say much but when she Connie I can't even tell you how grateful I am for the help you gave me and everybody needs somebody like that I had Joe with me he was in my corner you have a loved one that's abusing drugs abusing alcohol it's not them it's just not them so I knew when I was saying no to Sarah and she was cursing me and telling me she was going to kill me in my sleep and I don't Maybe that I think that was kid from try um all of these things that Sarah said to me I was able to disassociate I was able and we all disassociate we think of disassociation as you know not that's not how it is we just have to disassociate all the time I had to remove myself as her mother and treat her as if she was a stranger I was trying to help because if a parent does not have the capability of doing that you won't be able to sit here we wouldn't be able to sit here and do this she I would be giving it would be dysfunctional and it would just continue and continue and continue now Sarah has these skills or she has recognized I need to live with healthy people Ed I need to have a good job Yankee mattress she's a hard worker we had to rebuild our relationship but it didn't take much because most of the most of the negative feelings she had towards me were when she was drinking not when she was sober so I had to really say that to myself every single day on my way to work because I knew I was going to get calls at work I'd have to say today is going to be okay I'm going to support Sarah by not supporting her I'm gonna support Sarah by letting her know I love her and I I told her the same thing every time I will pick you up at any time of the day or night and bring you to detox yeah I hated that sentence I know hated it and I'll tell you she you did hate it she as soon as I would say sarup if you ever click but nothing she would tell me Mom I'm not going to detox okay but if you do click I mean she did not want to hear it but that's the wonderful thing about addiction if you want to change you can do it it didn't matter what I did she didn't get sober because of what things I did what I did or didn't do just help facilitate it I think a little quicker that's that's what that did but Sarah did this on her own she made the decision one day I'm done do you remember that day I mean you may not I don't know well technically the court did determine that day but I was on bored with it at the same time I didn't want to drink anymore at that point yeah I didn't want to and I was just using it as a void for loneliness and I love being alone now so yeah so I guess if there's anything we would want someone to take from this is that family is hard we love our family the person you feel safest with is often the one that is the target for all those emotions you don't feel safe releasing on other people and that sometimes the help you give an addict or an alcoholic or anyone struggling Sometimes the best help you can give them is just to listen and then send them on their way because nobody is going to get sober she was never going to get sober because I told her to that was never going to happen and no addict alcoholic Gambler doesn't matter what you're addicted to you have to be ready for it you have to be ready in your heart in your mind and when I saw this look on Sarah I could see it coming so I had to be patient I couldn't always say to her Sarah how are you feeling today because she hated that too yeah I did yeah she didn't like that a flashback so I just treated her like she was kind of a guest yeah I treated her very casually and that worked now if Joe wasn't there would I have been able to do it I don't know doesn't matter he was there I don't need to think about what I would have done I was very blessed to have Joe around and I'm just blessed that we're here today to talk about this and I really hope there's there are some people watching this that are clinicians and I hope that they too can realize when you're helping a family through this you have to be really careful what you say because it's a very painful process and you can't say to someone just stop drinking just stop drinking I tried everything I tried changing your room around I thought maybe if I cleaned out her closet for her she'd come home and be happy all these things that I thought if I just fixed but it was in her heart she needed to fix first she needed to learn to like herself if you don't like yourself you're in trouble you're in trouble so having Sarah in my life is just I can't I just don't even know what to say I'm just blessed I'm blessed this that we're here talking about it and and hopefully someone hears something that resonates and some mother or father out there can hear it and say okay there is a light at the end of this tunnel it's not always it's not always the light you're looking for though people lose their life all the time to this disease so that's a light in a different sense a light not always a lightness of positivity this disease kills so many people every single day so you have to look at light in a very very different way when you've lost someone to this disease and we all know someone that has died from drugs or alcohol so thanks for coming this is wonderful this was really nice I I appreciate it if anybody wants to ask Sarah any questions or me you're more than welcome there's coffee up here I do want to say thank you to this young man behind the camera I forgot your name I'm sorry um that's cable access so it's wonderful they're here God only knows who's watching this thing tonight but yeah does anybody want to ask anything or just uh wrap it up I would you avoid your triggers around alcohol you know I really I stopped hanging out with anybody I there was a point where I was sober for two and a half years and then I was hanging out with people who were drinking all around me and then one day I just drank with them so I just stopped hanging out with people I went to work I came home every day honestly just having you as a someone there every day was helpful and now I avoid triggers I still find new triggers every day me and my mom went to a casino when we were in Florida yes and I didn't realize how much of a trigger that was walking in there just from the homeless days the environment just so I'm still learning triggers but I know to just walk away from them now what we did was just identify it then we left and I mean it still will pop into my head even just like a shower thought of why don't you have a drink but then it it's only a Split Second Split Second but it's like we have that's reality comes into play so yeah trigger still happen but just learning what to do every day making those changes yeah her car Sarah lived in her car for a while so the car was a trigger for me because and this is another thing to really remember about people people that have lived in their car homeless addicts whatever is that car becomes very sacred becomes as a place that they consider that's where they're living so Sarah was very protective of her car and it it is it has a whole new meaning for someone else so if I went near the car if I looked in the car Sarah would get very angry and so now seeing the car clean see you know for the most part yeah um you know just not all her stuff all in it I mean you could tell she was living in it that was a trigger for me but then Sarah started to clean it up now she keeps her car clean for the most part and yeah I think me also recognizing that that was a trigger because we were walking through through the casino and Sarah was just getting so Snappy with me and I'm thinking woohoo I got a night of gambling tonight yeah lasted 10 minutes I looked at her and I said are you okay she went we got to go and then I realized this whole scene is a trigger for her so we left yeah people drinking you know you got people at the slot machines with a cigarette hanging out of their mouth they're like drinking I mean it's very once I saw it through a different perspective I was like oh my gosh I'll go by myself next time so yeah so that's it so thank you thank you congratulations [Applause] okay where's the thing that's a [Applause] WRA that takes a lot of courage to sh that story a lot of good Lu thank you okay
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