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e good hello can everyone hear me okay in the back yes good okay good evening I have 6:30 we're going to go ahead and get started for those that are able if you wouldn't mind standing for the Pledge of Allegiance please really enjoyed all the little voices helping us with that tonight that was very special okay I have all board me members in attendance so I'll call the meeting to order Dr Phillips thank you Miss Welden we like to start each meeting by reminding ourselves of our mission vision and core beliefs and so I'll read those aloud to all of our guests tonight for a packed house the vision of bcse is to be the choice to learn work and play and our mission is to develop expert Learners by partnering with our community to invest in people our core beliefs are that we all can rise to the challenge of of high expectations that learning is most effective when we have Choice flexibility and see relevance that we Thrive when our social physical and psychological needs are met that our community and School District are stronger when we partner with one another that we flourish because of the diversity and variability in our community and last but certainly not least that our democracy and Democratic institutions are strengthened by civic-minded citizens you Dr Phillips we have quite a few recognitions tonight this is very exciting I believe we'll start with the 2025 education Hall of Fame War Mr Schultz yeah to kick off all the festivities and appreciate the full house uh we wanted to present the 2025 education Hall of Fame award uh for those of you that aren't aware this award's purpose is to recognize outstanding and extraordinary contributions to bcsc by a bcsc teacher staff member or administrator um just to walk through the overall process uh applications were given uh by November 1st a committee reviewed these um and we really appreciate all the applications that were provided to us um and today the award goes out um and I want to thank the committee members that are here um if any of them are uh Brett Finley uh principal over at CSA Lincoln Toby Haron the parent the parent representative uh Janice Montgomery and loose Elena Michelle and if any okay I didn't see any of them but I wanted to make sure I didn't miss them um and I I want to make and want to appreciate uh Miss Carla yudi is the recipient and welcome Blake Manuel to introduce her uh for this award [Applause] all right thank you Mr Schultz and the board before I hand it off to Mrs udy I just wanted to I'm just introduce myself my name is Blake Manuel and I'm an assistant principal at Columbus East High School but 12 years ago in 2013 I had probably my favorite title of being Mrs Udi's student teacher um and and so from that not being from Columbus and and coming to a central Middle School to um experience what teaching was like um I had a firsthand experience of just seeing uh Mrs Udi work and interact with the students and be um a pillar for a school and I got to see that firsthand and I got to see that over the next few years um as a staff member at Central as a teacher and then later as assistant principal um just continuously seeing uh Carla not just um interact with the different student teachers that she had or the different staffs but really just make an impact on all the students that she had um the running joke amongst everybody with her team and Mindy and all the students is that um calling her dinosaur and all that stuff but that's but they say that um endearingly and it's it's it's kind of a running joke too um that uh she's always the first person in the parking lot and she's always the last one to leave and after 42 years um as working at Central Middle School it's I'm just an honor to call her a friend and a mentor um and I cannot think of a better person deserving of the 2025 education Hall of Fame award and so before I hand it off um I just wanted to read some things that are going to be remembered on the plaque that she'll have in a plaque that'll be at Central Middle School and so these are some of the things that um your your peers your friends your daughters um wrote in their recommendation for you and so um first it's Beacon of influence an honest faithful and loyal exhibits empathy and compassion leadership beyond the classroom student teacher mentor ignites curiosity and critical thinking skills among her students four Decades of dedicated service to bcsc as an educator passion for World cultures US history and current events and then a quote that I'll be on here is her extraordinary commitment mentorship and educational philosophy have left an enduring mark on bcse so with that congratulations Mrs yudy [Applause] [Laughter] well thank you bcsc for giving me such an honor um I used to joke with people about you know after teaching here for so long I would hope I'd at least have a plaque on a bathroom stall or something and I never my wall streams would have thought of this um but I want to thank everyone who uh helped with the recognition process I know there's people that wrote letters and I've got to see the letters and it's very touching um as well as my children that uh that participated in that effort um I have sincerely loved being a part of this Corporation for my 40 41 years this year um I love Middle School um I think part of that is because perhaps I have a little bit of a middle school personality I think that goes a long way um sense of humor also obviously very important um but I have truly loved all the time that I've spent with like over 5,000 students hundreds of students athletes when I coached in my first 10 years which seems like a lifetime ago um and then of course all of the teachers and so many of teachers that have come tonight I can think of stories with everybody uh stories with children and then also funny stories that that we've shared um uh we do a lot of teasing at the middle school level because humor is important and that's sometimes that's what gets us through a day when it's a tough day um but my team that I'm working with now currently has been also an inspiration for me to continue to be the best that I can be as well and we have different Generations represented from someone that's my children's age up to dinosaur age um so they've been a real inspiration for me as well I was really touched that Mrs Hagen is here um Willis Hagen her husband who was deceased um hired me and I remember so many stories from Willis hang or what I used to call him Willie um I could remember the the day that I had my interview and I was so nervous I drove a a gremlin it had no air I was coming from Ball State um no air conditioning so I had to roll the window down but I had puffy hair and I'd spent a lot of time on that hair and uh so I wanted the window down I sat straight at my seat so I wouldn't have sweat on my back I got down there and hour and a half before my interview and there was some seating outside so I parked and I sat outside later to find out that Willie and Mr cell were sitting across at the Olympia watching me the whole time so I'm glad I didn't embarrass myself um but uh Willie and I shared a lot of good stories and uh I truly I truly do miss him um I don't know I I know I could tell you a lot more stories and uh I could also write a book on what you can get a middle school child to do for a Jolly Rancher that might be in the works maybe when I retire but I do want to thank everyone for coming out and and supporting me tonight um and feel a lot of love I really appreciate that thank you so much [Applause] than [Applause] pleas okay next I believe we have Southside spell Bowl champions Mr Beck Meer Miss Duo I didn't say that right I can tell Jack's G to be mad at me Z front and center all right uh Dr Phillips thank you for having us members of the school board it's a pleasure to be here um giving us the opportunity to celebrate the accomplishments of these Southside Mustangs um we talk about personal best and each of these individuals did their personal best and then combined that together to uh do their personal best for their team and so we appreciate all of the efforts I couldn't be more proud of Mrs Doo our spell longtime spell ball coach who's not allowed to retire and then all the many members of of the team so we appreciate them very much and I'd like to introduce them uh and have her say a few words all right um standing in front of you are 13 amazing fifth and sixth graders um they had tough shoes to fill because last year we were state champs as well um and we only had one student return um the rest moved on to Central which I think you guys celebrated a little while ago um but they they worked hard so our season started in August um we had 50 try out these 1 made the team um they they hit the road running um we had 21 tests from August to November we had 12 practices um I threw in crossword puzzles I threw in extra credit um extra credit you'll see on our shirts um one of our words was cumulo Nimbus and I have a black golden doodle named Nimbus so that's how he um became our mascot for the year um so the night of the event is actually um hosted at Southside we had 14 teams compete six were in the green class eight in the blue class which is um the class that we compete in um we won our area tournament and then out of 104 teams um in the blue class throughout the dist or throughout the state we had the best um score so very proud of them and and yes personal best is is what you would hear out of my voice or out of my mouth and and that's exactly what they did so I will let them take the mic and introduce themselves um I'm yoshika garia I'm in sixth grade and I was one of the spell members I'm Dia Rami and I'm in fifth grade I was one of the spell bow team members I'm stavia fresh and I in grade I'm Risha ragavan I am in sixth grade I'm rant Sharma and I'm in sixth grade and part of the spell bow Team I'm rashan jagi and I'm part of I'm in fifth grade and I'm part of the spell bow Team I'm subu subaya and I was part of the spell bow Team and I'm in sixth grade my name is swasti tande I'm in fifth grade and I was part of the spell bow Team my name is sonana Manata and I'm in sixth grade and I was part of the spell bow Team my name is Victoria Q andl is part of the spellow team and I'm in sixth grade my name is Bella Zang and I'm in fifth grade and I was part of the spell ball team my name is mishita pal I'm in fifth grade and I was part of the spell ball team my name is verica pru I'm in sixth grade and I was also part of the spell bow Team con [Laughter] sh very cool congratulations way to go it's amaz up here the [Laughter] okay Mr Miller all right thank you Dr Phillips and the school board for recognizing this uh amazing accomplishment by the girls wrestling team winning the state championship in the first year um I'd like to thank coach olds and his staff uh they did an amazing job obviously when you're starting a new program from scratch you're going to have um a wide range of uh skill levels and we had some girls who are wrestling in our club program um for the last few years and we had a few girls who have never wrestled before um and Coach olds and the staff did an amazing job working with each individual wrestler and helping them to get better every every week um I told Coach olds I wouldn't steal too much of his Thunder talking about um the team but kind of one quick story that really shows you what type of Team This was um a few weeks ago on a Friday when we had some uh bad weather um the girls team were wrestling in moresville for the Regional Championship uh they had a tough week the week before in sectional didn't win sectional um but really did a great job in Regional we had a lot of Champions and that really um pushed us to a a state championship that next week um and the next day that Saturday after wrestling a long hard Regional uh bad weather coming back getting home late a lot of the team came to Franklin to support our boys team in the team State duels and that truly shows you what type of team this this this is um they support each other they support others in the school and they truly embody what it means to be a Columbus CE Olympian uh I'll turn it over to coach [Laughter] OLS I want to thank everybody for coming out tonight and showing support for these state champions uh before we meet them I have some people I have to thank um coach noblet for helping with everything that happened this year wouldn't be possible without him um I need to thank my wife Emily and my son Braden uh they've sacrificed uh a lot their sacrifices allowed me to coach these young ladies um and they gave up their time and gave their unwavering support for me and the team uh next I'd like to thank the parents of these athletes uh without their commitment to the goal long hour in the gym miles driven this would never have been possible uh I also want to thank the athletic department the school and the fans they showed up to make sure uh this was a special year and I just hope we represented them well now I want to thank this year's State participants and then say a few words about the team uh so step forward when I say your name first up Tina caditz [Laughter] Madison Mount matd schwartzen truber Seventh Place finisher Eden [Applause] Knight fourth place finisher Madison Sher third place finisher Grace McMahon State runner up Sage plumber and state champion Monica [Applause] McMahon one more time for all the state qualifiers um I was asked a question after we won how did a group of girls with very little experience come together to win a State title over the next few weeks I had time to think about that question and what I came up with was six universal truths that we all learned together as a team number one big Su success starts with Big Dreams without dreams you can't create a path to success number two believe believe in what you're doing believe in in yourself believe in your teammates if you believe you can't achieve number three consistency without consistency dreams are just dreams make a consistent effort every day to get better don't focus on the early wins and losses but grow every day to be the best version of yourself number four dedication every person in the room dedicates themselves to getting better and making their teammates better success isn't built in a day a week or a month but small daily gains are the key to reaching your goals number five accept failures as inevitable use failures to find Improvement and take your abilities to the next level and finally be passionate about what you're doing passion will push you forward when things get hard and lead you to your dreams there will NE there will never be another first time ihsaa team state champion these girls have earned everything they've achieved nothing was handed to them I hope they never will forget they'll always be Champions thank you [Laughter] congratulations that's awesome taking picture [Laughter] come on we got to do our F [Laughter] go board members I don't want to make I'm the only one doing it what the [Music] heck hey can I say you ladies even had tough handshakes I very much appreciate that and I can't help it I have to uh add just a a quick comment uh about um Miss McMahon Monica's speech I told so these poor kids I I've been going to the state championship for the boys for a lot lot of years um just because I'm a a fan I don't have any wrestling background but I love the sport and these poor kids when they win a state championship um what happens is the guy from TV sticks a microphone right in front of them as soon as they're finished they have a short break and then ask starts asking them questions in these poor kids for the most part very unprepared and you can tell and plus they're worked up because they just won a state championship um and and that happened to Monica and she I I've told so many people this now they're tired of me talking about but um she gave the best speech that I've ever heard any state champion give following um following her uh her win as a individual state champion um and did her family proud and her School proud and her community proud if you haven't seen it try to find it on Instagram or or whatever social media app you are on because it is it is a tremendous Testament to the um the whole team but also the way that coach olds prepares them the way that her family prepared her and I have to tell you also I felt so sorry for her sister who was getting ready to have her picture taken because she was on the podium for the previous weight class and when she talked about her sister and what Mentor her oh she just she just lost it and then so she was all prepared for a picture but then by the time the picture came she was a you know um you know kind of kind of uh you could tell she had been crying but um tremendous tremendous achievement there and um I don't think U very many of us get to say our community has the very first state champion ihsaa history so congratulations to all of you hi we are going to move on to Schoolboard member reports uh Mr major can I start at your end please yeah the the Redevelopment committee commission met uh last week and we had a lot of stuff going on swor in a new commission member uh former mayor Jim linup um talked about parking garage we talked about new uh owner for the Orange Leaf location new owner for the or leaser lesser for the subway uh location the downtown entrance Plaza the Hamilton Center chillers and the Arcadia Drive uh Department of Public Works projects uh Health Trust also met last week had a great conversation um talked a lot about how we finished up last year and what risk looks like this year uh we're probably going to have another meeting sometime this month next month to talk about some things that uh will help lead into managing the risk for this year so we're doing everything we can to keep cost down as much as possible uh but acknowledge that cost is increased so we're just trying to figure out the best way to make everything great for for uh all of the users of our insurance so uh I connected with uh Mrs Sarah Dunlap to talk about Cyd and get our first meeting on the book so I'm really excited to talk about the work that they're doing and learn how I can hopefully help and create a positive impact reviewing their current initiatives and projects and what their goals are for the year um also communicated with DD about the foundation and reviewing what their current Works have been and uh hopefully we'll be able to assist in that capacity as well it's just din no meetings nothing to report this evening thank you um so I did not have any meetings I did participate um in a closeout session for our um exit conference for a financial audit um I want to thank Mr brener and Paula beus for doing such a fantastic job with the audit um there were no major findings I think there's always opportunities for improvement they dig deep um I thought the things they found were valid and and we'll get better from those so just want to thank the team for putting in putting in the time with that um I didn't have any meetings but I do have a isba legislative update um there are hundreds of bills I'm just GNA throw out three of them here um House Bill 101 is the budget it's pretty early but I'm I'm sure that will have some impact on what we do here when it comes out um House Bill 102 is a lot of educational um has a lot of educational impacts and one I'll throw out there is that it would remove under its current um version it would remove the requirement that the state Secretary of Education has an advanced degree or experience in education and um House Bill 1544 if this went through this could have local impact for us it allows a it would allow a 25% tax credit for donations to a public school foundation and more to come Mr Glick a couple weeks ago we had the superintendent advisory Council luncheon with a whole number ranging from all levels of Staff uh and one thing that stuck out to me was Jen moral who's she's a counselor at CSA new tech uh there's not much to really report other than what she said kind of stuck out with me and where she led I was hoping that's where she was going uh they had their open house for eighth graders and they did something different this year they had the seniors lead it and the students lead it and uh that's exactly I was hoping to go she would go with that and uh and making their job easier as staff by letting the students do it sounds like they uh created more work for themselves because the they had a massive number of increased applications so they're going to have to do a little bit of nagling there to figure out how they're going to do it but that's exactly what we need to see empowering our students to step up and help with enrollment thank you Mr Schultz no meetings on the ccic I believe it comes up in the next couple weeks and then we just covered Hall of Fame so we're all good thank you all right cabinet Ember fors I'm color blind so to me it was green um thank you for participating in today's audit I would love to take credit for all the work that went into it but it was the two-year audit for 22 to midyear 24 so Dr Phillips and Paula they did a great job setting it up for me um and it it was a good audit and we're very proud of it um looking at our financial report for 2024 um revenues for the year were very strong in the education fund we were up five and a half or five and a quarter percent over 2023 the largest part of that increase was due to to the interest income that we discussed last meeting with our investments as well as our basic Grant was higher than we had anticipated because we had good ADM numbers in the operations fund revenues were up about 7% um that was again interest income and also our local income tax in in um Revenue was higher than we had anticipated for the year and the referendum fund we were up 2 and a half% in Revenue over 2023 um property tax revenues were again a little bit higher than we had anticipated strong years we had 96 million in Revenue in the education fund 36 million in operations and just over 10 million in the referendum fund our education fund expenditures our salaries were up just over 7 and a half% over 2023 the biggest part of that is the um salary rate increase that was uh as part of the CBA that was done as well as the additional Staffing due to the cohorts at north and east and benefits were up about four and a half% which ties into the salary increases and our other expenses were up about uh almost 20% a big but the dollarwise it's not as much as the other increases show due to um some under $10,000 Tech Supply purchases as well as some testing material purchases that we had and then the transferred operation ations we had discussed at the last meeting as well um for the year we expended 96 m700 th000 in the education fund budget um when you take out the transfer to operations which isn't a part of the approved budgeting through the state's eyes um salaries and benefits were 95% of those expenditures operations fund expenditures salaries were up about 95% that is again due to salary increases as well as the fact that we are nearly fully staffed across the board within operations uh we have an operations team meeting last week and as Dr Boseman went around the table talking to each of his team leads um nearly every one of them said fully staffed fully staffed going to be fully staffed after we fill these positions on Friday so it's a great thing the salary increases that the board has put into place over the last few years has really tied into that um benefits were up just a little over uh 2% and our other expenditures were pretty much flat for the year um expenditures in the operations fund overall 35,1 126,000 um just over 4% increase over 2023 referendum fund expenditures salaries uh for our teachers were up 3.8% support staff 2.3% benefits 4% Safety and Security increase of 40% a big part of that was some bus purchases that we had had in 2024 and our stem Labs were up about 12% over the previous year total expenditure within this budget was 9.2 million um 9.25 4 million of the 9255 we had budgeted so our fund cash balances when we look at our reserves we look at them in a couple different ways that Dr Phillips has told you about before but I'm going to follow up because I'm new at this with you guys so within uh the education fund we receive funding from the state on a monthly basis so we like to have a reserve of about two payrolls that fits that month time period in case there's a delay in the expenditures um for 2024 we ended the year with about 5.9 million in reserves our our two month our two- pay period would be about 5 a half million so as you saw during the budget process we did intend to bring that down just a little bit for 2025 so we have anticipated um spending more than we bring in as a way to bring down those reserves to not be over reserved in that area in the operations fund and the referendum fund those are basically property tax revenue funds so we get those payments twice a year so we look to have more of a six-month Reserve level in the operations fund we have a balance of 15.6 million um a 50 a six-month balance would be about 17 million so we're still building that up just a little bit to get to that six-month Reserve in the referendum fund we are at 4.1 million half uh six months would be a little over four and a half million so we're still building that up just a little bit health and dental trust we have a balance of 5.6 million which is an increase of 4.3 million we look at this fund um if we have a a reserve level of 30% of the next year's expected expenditures we then put that extra money towards um hsas for our employees we're not quite at that level yet so that balance is still strong and good and in debt service we're at 2.8 million any questions then on financial report questions from the team okay next is our property tax rate um as part of the budget process uh our advertised rate was 1.01 78 for 2025 when it was all said and done it came in at n or 9981 which is a slight reduction over 2024's rate and as you can see 2122 those were the effects of the referendum Dr Phillips staff and board at that that time was assuring to the public that we would keep it below 101 and try and reduce that um another thing we've been able to do even with the Envision 2030 projects and the bonding that we're doing we were able to remain net neutral for the year so we're really proud of that and uh State average for 24 was A1 five um we won't have the state average for 2025 for another month or so and when I get that I will bring that information back to you any questions on the tax rate the only question I have regarding property tax rate is is there a way to present how that compares to the assessed value increase over over the last couple years because that's that's the biggest issue like our our tax rate is neutral but the sess value is what is hitting everybody and certain people don't understand that so maybe compare those numbers to to bring some light to that could do that um what we can control is uh the tax rate I'm not saying that you have control over that that's the county assessor tracking yeah thank you yeah yeah don't mean to throw her under the bus but yes we can provide that information for you this is a little bit off topic but at the beginning you talked about the uh State Board of accounts and the two-year audit uh what was the time frame that they cover covered with their two-year audit July 2022 to June 30th of 2024 okay and then how long are they down here when they do that work um it's changed over the years um they now um sub it out to auditing firms Crow did our audit this year um we began meeting Paula and our staff we began meeting with them november-ish late October early November um back and forth uh they have a website where we can upload a lot of our information they have access to Gateway uh the state site to pull a lot of our information down um and then in January uh they present us early January they presented us with a preliminary report we were able to respond and then today was the final hearing thank you and last but not least our extra curric I can't say the word our ECA account um these are funds that each school has for their extracurricular activities there I did it um starting in 21 or 22 we were able to start investing These funds um that fourth column is the amount we have invested currently um at Raymond James uh that total that 947 th000 is not included in the December 24 balance but if you add the two together you can get what each school has um for the year or for the six-month period July 1 to December 31 we were up about uh $400,000 again strong fall where there's a lot of fundraisers that happen and then in the Sports World North and East all of their competitions against each other happen pre- Christmas so we have really great attendance really great revenues from those Sports at that time second semester we'll see uh these uh balances drop a little bit so when we come back to you in July with this report you'll see a little bit smaller number as those monies are spent so being new it may be a silly question but who has the authority to spend these funds at each school and how does that process happen he's new to um okay Miss Lloyd so step in on the the school side of how these this function so each building also has a treasure and so there's a um a certified sorry a classified position and so any expenditure is approved by both the principal and the treasurer at the building level and there's a whole section of State Board of accounts guidelines for extracurricular account accounting and so at the January meeting one of the approvals from the board was actually a a bond to ensure each of the building treasurers as well these can be used for academics Athletics and any teacher can submit a request this is these are almost 100% um clubs or extracurricular programming so you know the all Athletic program is the bulk of most of the money that's up there but if um yeah if there's a club that's going to do a field trip they probably already have a sub account in there they do a fundraiser money goes in you all approve those fundraisers every meeting and then they expend the dollars thank you and within that our staff does audit this monthly at the end of each month we do a Reconciliation of the funds thank you very much thank you good evening uh we are going to give our annual technology update tonight uh can't thank you for your time and your support to help us have the technology department that we have so with me tonight is Brian trivet he is the lead over our operations breny cummer is over uh the education and I'm the technology director we have a fantastic team uh that's listed up there including Asher who's helping out with sound tonight but uh really fantastic group that we've we've been able to work with for quite a while now so by the numbers um this slide is an annual slide but we we have a lot so we have over a 100,000 assets that does include devices but also um monitors to the microphones that you're speaking into tonight I have over 14,000 user accounts um and two million square feet of Wi-Fi coverage that we have to kind of update and 100 plus systems so those are software systems some we host some we don't um also include some digital ulum pieces as well but we also have a lot of vendors that we work with and maintain those relationships from year to year so finances it's a it's a very large investment that we've been lucky enough to have in our department we spend about this past year 3.5 million in annual technology needs over a million goes directly to new student devices every first Fifth and ninth grader gets a new device and we'll stay with them over the course of four years and seniors get to take their device home after graduation another big piece of our finances is Grants uh we've had almost three million since 2019 that includes funding from federal and state that helps fund internet hotspots cyber security software family engagement Ai and a lot more our state is really strong in terms of their edtech use and support which we've been been able to take advantage of so Dr Phillips asked me to uh like what did it look like before we started so Dr Phillips and I started here uh the same year and I found a strategic plan from 2001 to 2003 which was the year before we came and this is just the Stark difference of what it was like when we started teaching here so from 17 to 28 staff members a $1.8 million budget to 3.5 some of the most shock ones are software there's only 13 District programs um that cost the 181,000 and now it's well over a million and we have a lot of software programs and then the devices were all in Labs um we had around 2,000 computers and now again we have a lot of devices around 20,000 Chromebooks laptops and iPads all right so every year we try to cover an aspect of what we do and we've especially the last year and a half has had a lot of questions about cyber security and safety and student safety so we thought it'd be a good opportunity to talk to everybody about that so our technology and I actually talked to a group about this and they were concerned that students were on devices all the time and that is not the case so we follow and support our udl instructional framework and that framework is all about having student choice and options and that is how we view technology is as a tool to help students learn and we have a very diverse population over 60 different languages about 133% uh in the El ml group 10% qualify for special education and a device can help you know read aloud can help translate it is one of the most accessible ways to give content to students uh we also make sure that they have a device the devices follow the students all the way through so as they're first grader it'll follow them to second grader and so on up and over the summer we'll move all of the sixth grade devices into the middle schools and then as ninth graders they get a new one so uh there's no reason that they should you know kind of use somebody else's tool because everybody has their own device we also work hard to make sure the device fits their needs so there's large screen Chromebooks there are touchscreen Chromebooks regular Chromebooks um iPads laptops uh depending on what best matches students need and we work with uh teachers on that the other big piece uh when we went Ono one and had a stud a learning management system we adopted a digital citizenship uh kind of platform which is Common Sense Media as a parent it's great you can go there and look at ratings on apps that your kids may have or movies but it also has a lot of great content for our teachers so our department has helped create advisory lessons for the high schools have made other lessons available in canvas that all of our teachers can use uh on a day-to-day basis and if we get questions from parents we usually are referring them back to articles uh that this platform provides which has been really helpful so getting into student safety we do have a firewall that helps protect uh at least anything any Bad actors from coming in we also have a Content filter that works anywhere so it doesn't matter if they're at school or at home uh and it also sends a report to principles of suspicious searches so there's this long list including uh words in different languages that our El ml Department helped put together to alert our principles if there's something that they need to be worried about and we also have a program called bark that monitors all all of our Google accounts and if there's anything in there self harm threats violence then it will alert our principles immediately um so that we can at least be aware of those situations and that has been a helpful tool again for us to help make sure our students are safe over the years all right Brian thanks Nick uh so we've had a lot of support I was putting up little too close we have had a lot of support as far as security uh practices and what's that you're all the I'm all the wayle is this okay right [Music] here okay I'm gonna try to talk and not blow everybody's ears out we good okay all right so we have had a lot of support when it's come to uh cyber security across the district um we've talked with other technology groups and other across the state we feel like we have really a leading of the pack mentality when it comes to our practices and procedures and I want to kind of dive into why we think that and what we are doing to kind of stay in the front of a lot of our peers across the state so we operate under a kind of what we're seeing here is a pyramid but the base of that pyramid is made up by what we know as the CIS or Center for in Internet Security framework there's about 150 or so metrics that we measure against our practices our procedures and try to see what we can do to make things better or maybe we're doing things already pretty well but we meet monthly and we go to the people spot now where we have a cyber security task force we discuss the framework what things that we're doing well what things we need improve on maybe what's coming down the pike that we need to maybe address here pretty soon um and we have a lot of support from teams locally from other groups nationally that we can bounce ideas off and get some thoughts and feedbacks on our practices and our procedures our third level there we have infrastructure Nick alluded to that a little bit earlier but for infrastructure we have a lot of great Technologies in place um with our firewalls are monitoring we have backups in case something happens we have air gaped backups that we can use to restore things if needed there's inpoint protection on all of our devices uh we do yearly pen tests which is we engage the third party to basically try to break into our Network and then give us a report on what they've done so that we can go through and mitigate and resolve those things before someone maliciously tries to break into our Network as well as doing regular updates for all of our devices and that top level there is kind of what we put into practice our two- Factor authentication just another level for our staff to protect their data their students data other staff's data we do self- fishing so we send fake emails like a bad actor might but if someone clicks on it we give them some educational prompts to say maybe need to look at this next time or maybe think about a little bit different this way we have tabletop exercises where we simulate something happening just mental exercises but then we mark down and document what we could do in the future if this type of thing happens we have complex passwords again more complexity more security and we limit the admin access on all of our devices so anybody that used to be able to install whatever they wanted whenever not even it can we sit there on our accounts and install something directly on our desktops so a little bit more secure across the board for all of that so there's a few things we try to do that are a little bit more fun I mean Iber security can be kind of a drag and sometimes boring but you can see here we've started the first time ever a fishing tournament it started today so there are of these self- fishing emails that are going out across the district um we're going to have building level winners we're going to have District level winners and we'll promote and show off those individuals for their attention to detail and then their success in that but you can also see our little Fishbowl it's a traveling trophy that buildings get every quarter when we do these fishing uh drills whoever whichever building has the lowest uh percentage of people that click on those messages they get a bowl full of candy get the bragging rights for the next quarter and they get share that with all the employees in their building we have you can see Nick's face they're taking a good picture of all of us this is one of our cyber security uh tabletop exercises where we're talking through what might happened in some sort of an incident and then in the opposite Corners there we have various security throughout the year trainings and also we celebrate cyber security month and do contests and just raise awareness across the district on best security practices and what everybody can do to keep BCS see safe I think part of that is being proactive so we've met and talked to a lot of districts who have put these into place after an attack and we just try to be as proactive as we can to prevent attacks as much as we can what questions can we answer about security or uh technology will the board be participating in this fishing tournament you are more than welcome to participate if you want you will get those emails regardless of want them or not no you did answer my one question of whether it was like I'm hoping that we're not getting fishing into the network so this the self self- diagnosed fishing is all right that's where my question was going so thank you sorry I'm full of questions tonight can you talk just a little bit more about bark and how this may not be a question for you but maybe counselors when a that flag goes up if a student has search something I mean we have a lot of mental health issues and so if a student is genuinely trying to look something up to maybe help themselves and it gets flagged what does that what unfolds next so there's there's a couple things depending on the severity of it but the principles are alerted first um so especially at the high school level and the cohorts that whole team will work on it I've seen my wife go through that process the middle schools would work with their counselors and then same on down to Elementary um there's not as many in elementary but we have had a few uh also tied into that is our Wellness team with Jana Norman um and Julie Miller so they're alerted as well uh as well as myself kind of being the system administrator of that so well you know it's not a uh kind of constant alert it's it's ones that you have to pay attention to to make sure that uh we're keeping our students safe um and making sure that you know the right help can be there thank you I I don't think I've ever asked about this but typing class When's the earliest age group that would take a typing class good question um that I'm not sure of the answer of uh the only reason why I ask is the two most important classes I ever took were typing and speech we use that we use those every day and it might get rid of some of the LOLs that we see when our kids text us if they knew how to actually use a phone right we've we've had a typing program as a system um but in terms of How It's integrated in the curriculum and when they start using that or if they're still using that uh I'm not aware but we can we can get back to you on that one more real quick too um my daughter graduated last year and has her Chromebook still at home but she doesn't use it for college because it wasn't capable of doing some of the college stuff there's going to be some kids that will want the Chromebook and some kids that don't is there a benefit to us to take the Chromebooks back and recycle them or donate those to other schools that might have use for them um rather than sitting at home collecting dust yes um potentially so with the fourth grade devices and the eighth grade devices will take the best of those and you know some are used for testing or some are used for loners uh try to use those until we can anymore but we have certainly had different groups reach out um if we have devices and we usually try to satisfy those that does take board approval for or the removal of those or disposal of them so you know kind of every once in a while you'll see that as an approval item um and we do try to do that we don't we don't try to hold them I guess um in anticipation of that but we've we've certainly done that in the past and I think the what I'm thinking like locally you know the kids for the most part that are in schools do have a Chromebook available to them but place like a s Susi might be a good place to you know make a donation and then you know they're they're going to make a couple bucks off of them but somebody's gonna get something like that really cheap so yeah and I like Ivy Tech was asking us um if we could actually think about starting the program of seniors taking them home laptops were a little trickier so when we moved to Chromebooks for high school it allowed us to do that because they had several students coming without them so uh you know we definitely try to engage with our community in that so um this is about technology in general I to me I think one of the biggest challenges in technology is how it disturbs us when we're no no that is um is that it's always changing um and I I know I've seen you do a lot of creative things but my question is what what's the big challenge you face in terms of training and in service for teachers on the Ever Changing technology and and what do you do to meet that challenge so that's a great question I I think we are extremely conservative in what we adopt as the district and we're thoughtful about it so I could go you know kind of yearby year of like virtual reality was a big thing that a lot of schools invested in and then it's kind of come and gone so having Educators and teachers we have a group of teachers that we work with called Tech Titans that represent every building that we get feedback on so like the adoption process we're very thoughtful about that and practical I feel um keeping up is really difficult especially now that everything uh is just in the cloud and they update like I just saw a Google update on a form that I've never seen before and it's like oh a new interface um so we have to work hard to update training offer all the time we try to be creative with it um but it does take a lot of energy and we have a lot of people that we you know kind of try to keep up to date as we can being involved in our organizations kind of helps us weed through some of that as well which is extremely beneficial we'll hear from vendors or hear from other school districts of what they're trying um we're very rarely the first to jump in because of that practicality and not you know we have a large district and trying to scale things is is difficult so we yeah I I don't know if I answered your question completely but it it is at least strategic on our point of trying to adopt what we can and support it and train for it thank you I had one question we use we get a little application happy sometimes in my day job and sometimes when you put in a new app you think oh my gosh I can't believe I did that and sometimes it did exactly what you wanted it to and then there's those few moments where you're like that was really handy I am pleasantly surprised with how impactful positively impactful that was for us what would that application be for for you and your department what's one you've put in place that you're really proud of I think and again it kind of started with a pilot but parent square has been life-changing for us they got rid of so many other outside communication tools that we were supporting or halfway supporting and having that one constant communication tool along with Josh and his work has been really kind of that most recent kind of revolutionary type of tech that has helped everyone say before that was probably a one learning management system that helped us do e-learning helped us prepare for the pandemic as best we could with one to one but that that next one for me has been parent Square thank you appreciate uh now we are on to public comments so um anyone who wishes to come to a school board meeting and participate through public comments there's a blue sheet that's always at the front of the the um house when you walk in the door can sign up um it it helps us if you kind of jot down what you want to speak about and then we do have some um some rules uh we ask that you do not say any particular names or a specific role within the school corporation we want to make sure that our comments are um fair to people uh you do have three minutes there's a timer here that'll keep you on track and and we'll remind you when the buzzer goes off um and then if it's a topic where you feel like someone before you has spoken and said the same thing you can always pass um and just say I agree with with so and so um and tonight we have one speaker and it is Mr Cole Bennett Cole you still there good evening everyone my name is Cole Bennett I live on the North side of Columbus and I'm here to speak once again to the issue of uh safety within our schools and since your last regularly scheduled meeting on January 22nd a shooting occurred at anach high school in Nashville Tennessee one student was killed and another was wounded these events are not outliers according to a CNN report done this month 83 school shooting events took place in 2024 across the US that's about seven per month like almost all school shootings today the news quickly moves ahead to the next headline similarly to how bcsc made a statement regarding recent changes to immigration enforcement I would like to see the same being applied to school violence we as a community cannot be desensitized to these events kids are growing up in a violent world but kids should not have to ask questions like are we safe in school the worst part is that since Sandy Hook in 2012 the number of school shootings across the US have increased by over six times I've come to these school board meetings over the last last year and I've seen the increase in funding for school safety and that is very much appreciated I'd like to request that information on that money and how it's being used be shared with the community thank you for all you do thank you Mr Bennett next we have request for approval thank you Miss won so we have several approvals in front of you this evening under old business we have the minutes of the regular school board meeting uh from January 133 the board work session on January 27th and the executive session of the board on also on January 27th request approval of old business item 6A as presented request approval I move that we approve item 6A minutes from the regular school board meeting the board work session and the executive session Mr nelan and Mr major Mr mcgyver I was not able to attend on January 27th so should I abstain from the approval okay yep okay I will do that okay I have a motion and a second to approve minutes from January 13th and 27th um board meetings all those in favor please say I all those opposed say n motion carries 60 thank you um under new business evening we have our routine items of supplemental contracts field trips and professional leaves school fundraisers and the claims and payroll from the January pre- runs the docket for February 3rd and two payrolls January 10th and January 24th of 2025 we also have item 7e which is an additional agreement uh last time we covered one of these it was actually listed under the additional approvals for HR and you have the details of that additional agreement in your packet board members have access to that in your packet uh item 7f is the policy package number three and represents the nine I believe it's nine uh policies that were presented at first reading in Janu uary um excluding it's nine out of 10 the 10th being um I believe that's policy D 27 175 thank you 175 on board uh and staff Communications and so item 7f reflects all of the policies that were read in January with the exception of that uh one that was discussed at during the board work session item 7g is a purple star school resolution uh for our secondary schools board has previously um passed this uh resolution for our elementary schools This is Indiana Department of Education Program um that uh schools can go through a certain process uh which includes the board passing a resolution in support uh to become a purple star School uh which honors essentially honors the veterans um who have served um both in the past and are serving now so I believe we're getting close to having all of our schools designated as purple star schools also a reappointment of Dr Laura hack to the baramu county library board uh approval of bus purchases this is uh an annual event now that we have to order our buses in February to receive them by the next uh school year I'm saying as in next as in 2627 so in order to get those in the summer those have to be ordered in February uh item 7j is a a change to the guaranteed ma maximum price contract for uh Schmid Elementary School uh to reflect the addition of the bus uh sorry bus lot relocation and item 7K is uh change to the district calendar I brought this up at the last meeting and since then we've discussed it with principles uh cic's and all kinds of different groups um to determine whether or not that would be disruptive to the community and didn't receive any um any feedback to the contrary so item 7K would move the snow makeup day from April the 17th sorry it would move the professional development day from April the 17th 2025 to May 22nd of 2025 so the student instructional in inperson instructional day will be April 17th that was scheduled to be a professional development day but at the request of many of our teachers and our uh Columbus Educators Association leadership uh the having an instructional day on April 27th was a much more meaningful use of our time than moving it to the May 22nd the the day before the last day of school so that's the uh request for approval there if if approved we'll put out a new printed uh calendar and update our website U and and uh promote that in the public I also want to point out during the board meeting publicly um to members of the community that might have already scheduled something on that April 17th date um if they were going to be out of town since students were not scheduled to be in session on that day um work with your teachers and the principal and as long as the work is made up for that day if a student has to miss with parent permission has to miss for something that was arranged beforehand that can be made as a non absence for those students so some a student has perfect attendance up to that date or they can still as long as they get all the work done and turn it in with a certain number of days they still uh get credit that last one was that I don't remember seeing that in the board packet maybe I overlooked it was it was it listed in there just as an approval item there was no attachment or anything like that so I request approval of items 7A through 7K as presented I would like to uh pull M 7j out for discussion just to make sure that I fully understand what that is because when I read the packet it is not very clear and I don't know if everybody saw what you sent me I I believe you three saw it but I just want to make sure that we fully understand what that is did you request to vote on that separately or just discuss the item in more depth fly discussion just just just so fully understand what it is so I think normally we do a motion and then we'll discuss after a motion has been made if we're if we're okay with that well I don't I don't think you need to the motion would be to approve 7A through K and then discussion would just happen normally right so Mrs Welden I did get a question from one of the board members before the meeting uh on item I related to the bus approvals as a reminder I don't believe anyone has a technical conflict but we have had board members pull that out so they can abstain uh because our specs normally include commum engines and with some of our connections on that we have pulled those in the past okay okay would anyone like to make a motion excluding item I um excluding I yes okay so so I would move that we approve um items 7 a through H and J and K as presented Mr Nan do have a second thank you Mr major and and then um I think we want to discuss item J so um Mr Glick do you want to share your questions for discussion yeah so the graphic that you sent me which is item l22 as subcribing the packet uh um I don't know if Jason or Logan received it Whitney I don't know if you reive it or not um I have it pulled up if you want me to share it with you but it's basically I want to make sure I'm clear I know what exactly the project entails because there's I I saw the layout that was in the packet but I don't know exactly where this million dollars is going to be put so wasn't clear to me either because is it I know what the parking lot looks like now and based off this I it says bus lot sure yeah so um so yes it's the purpose of that is to separate um pedestrian pedestrians and vehicular traffic from buses so at Schmid currently if you're familiar there's uh staff parking to the Northern end of Schmidt and the buses pull in between the uh that parking lot and the building and unload students and there's a lot of um pedestrians that walk across the bus lot quite frankly to get to and from the building um so this was this was originally intended as part of the project when we put this out to bid with all the other bid categories um a little over a year ago we chose at the time not to approve uh bid Package 2 mainly because um we wanted to we we did the same thing with Parkside um mainly because we wanted to make sure that the budget um was safe quite frankly um and we didn't have any surprises when we came through and started construction so now now that we feel comfortable budget wise uh we rebid the project it came back in right about the same pricing we had previously actually had a couple more biders this round um so we're awarding it the budget has not grown overall it just wasn't awarded the first time this big category wasn't awarded the first time time that we um that we issued when the board approved the other big categories um and the design hasn't changed in that last year it was just a safeguard for for budgeting purposes so but to answer your question a little more specifically the so the cars um and the buses are two separate Lots um in the new design so the buses would come off 27th Street um into the bus lot and then Right Turn Only onto um Home Avenue to go southbound um and it just it just separates those buses from from car parking and also that bus lot can be um used as event parking for basketball games or something if it needed to be as well so and then the the road along the South Boundary that goes around the field yep um are we expanding that a plan yes correct so it'll be uh the width will be doubled so that's a car line now to get um car pressure off of the adjoining side streets that was done many many years ago um but car lines have grown at our schools at all of our schools so um the plan is actually um with your approval that will be done this summer in the summer of 25 to um double the capacity in the car line basically to get them off the the city streets and the bus lot to North to the north be done in the summer of 26 yeah I just want to make sure the graphic wasn't entirely clear and the packet didn't have this graphic in it at all and some of the wording is completely eligible so appreciate your ask absolutely I I live on that street and so I'm in the middle of the the heart of the congestion every morning so St B's Norths side North Schmid so on and so forth and I will say that is one of the most hectic areas I would say in Columbus from 7:30 to 8:15 I also pass the car line that goes all the way down California Chestnut wraps around onto 25th Street and lines up in front of Greeks and the snow conb place and I can't imagine being a parent sitting in that line I also watch kids Dart across that bus lot every single morning in the dark um um parents drop off on the street or they they park at my house or my neighbor's house and they walk their their kid runs across there and so I think it's a great I think it's a great investment I think it's a huge safety concern so yeah I think I think the only call out I have and I I wasn't aware of the drawing so I apologize um is I think whenever we're doing scope changes like we need to have some clear standard work like here's the scope of the ask here's the original budget here's the new budget cuz like even when I'm looking in here guaranteed maximum price goes up 1.1 million but then the sentence at the end says we're within budget but it doesn't tell me what the budget was and so I think when we look at like because we're going to have a lot of these right there's there's change amendments there's expectations across all the facilities I think we just need to make sure you we have like when we get the memorandums clear scope of work budget change of contract and then I think whenever we supplement stuff to other board members just be good to go ahead and disperse to all at that point to the point about to the point about money I think it is a good point right I mean I think I saw a note in there that it said that we had saved we made improvements and saved well if we've offset it then we're still spending the same amount of money so I don't it makes it easier to approve but if we said our our original budget was 17 million and we're going to spend 18 million now now it's where do we come up with the million dollarars and so for me me that's where it was it was just a little bit of uncertainty there and I I appreciate you showing me and confirming I understand what that is now better and it makes sense because if you're going to tear stuff out of the parking lot and you're going to replace that and build that bus lot it just wasn't really easy to tell like the before and after on on what was sent previously so from a from a need to spend the money I can see it now it's if we've made improvements or if we have an original budget I looked at uh I looked at the original budget from the Invision 2030 and what was in the packet from November of 2023 didn't have Schmid on it so that's where for me it was like I can't I can't compare because I didn't I probably could have found it if I'd have gone through every single board packet but it was more of a do can we get here today and ask a question too so do we know what the original Schmidt uh estimates were that were voted on the total budget for Schmid that was approved through um through bonding was 20.4 okay and so you're still even with this what it's roughly 17 and a half so uh so you're two and a half under uh that does not include soft cost for Architects um which is about 1.3 and a half or so you're one point two under yeah okay that's easier yeah thanks thanks for your question so um I appreciate the questions that realizing now in hindsight the you hadn't seen much of the Schmidt content since we you had approved it almost a year ago so moving forward I'll I'll um include two things um in your approval one any visual of scope of work that can be of help um to your point Mr Glick and then also a summary of a just review of of to budget and where we are on on the project that's that's before you so thanks and and one thing too just for transparency for everybody else too one of the things I mentioned to Dr Boseman was um we've talked about this in the past this board packet comes out on a Thursday night most of us have a job and we're working on Friday you get to look at it at some point over the weekend which leaves you about this much time to ask questions and get answers um so and and then if you do get an answer sometimes you don't have the ability to digest it quickly because you're working on Monday so one thing I would ask again um because I asked this about a year ago is can we work to try and get the board packets available to board members in the public one week in advance of a meeting so that we have the ability to come in and get these questions asked so that the meetings aren't as clunky trying to get questions that could easily be answered in a five minute uh conversation versus uh trying to do stuff over a weekend when it's really hard to contact people or respect their weekend time okay you want me respond that so just just so you know Mrs um Chrisman since uh since we switched to board docs we have I believe every time gotten the board pack it out to the public and the board members by 9:00 am or or 10: am.
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America and to the for it stands one nation God indivisible withy and justice for all thank you all right it's 6 o' call order Board of school Trustees of Brown County um is there any modifications to the agenda there are no modifications to the agenda going to recognize visitors and comments from the audience yeah I'm excited tonight to be able to introduce um Mr shoman and Mr steel and I know um Mrs Roberts is here in support as well um there has been a lot of work that has gone in to talk about high school redesign and a potential schedule um for the high school next year and um also like how that would potentially Impact Middle School in the future as well so I'm really really proud of this team and um I I can honestly say in three and a half years uh to see the collaboration between sixth through 12th grade um has been just amazing and this is just another step towards that so I'm GNA turn it over to Mr shoman and um get excited okay well thank you I appreciate that and Mr steel I was a little panicked when you weren't here here thought it was like the new guy initiation so I'll just apologize before I start because I am a former uh music teacher and when you give a music teacher a music stand and a microphone like get comfortable Mrs Tracy said keep it brief so I will okay but first of all I wanted to just if you would just set the stage at the work that we've done this year and really it began several years ago uh in the state 2017 18 with looking at the way we're doing High School uh and then last year here more specifically to Brown County Schools the high school as you know did a lot of work in looking at schedules and so what I want to do is talk a little bit about the work that was done uh both at the state level and the high school level a little bit about where we're at now and then where we want to go okay so if if I could just indulge you in a minute I would just like to set the stage a little bit hope everything works here okay Mr steal said I can't have a presentation unless I have a video so the idea that we have a certain amount of ability intelligence and talent that idea holds us back because when we don't succeed we think oh I guess I don't have the ability the talent the intelligence to be successful at this and that fixed mindset always comes out When You're vulnerable when you're out of your comfort zone when you have criticism or setbacks or when someone else is really successful much more than you are so what are you going to do about that I want to start with this this idea about this fixed mindset right like in a way in a lot of ways in education we we do things the way we've just done them for 100 years because that's what we've done uh and so what I'm going to ask us to do as a community uh and I've asked our staff to do this is to really have a growth mindset when we're looking at this and it it puts us in the position of being vulnerable and it it says that it is okay that we know that what we're doing was good for a while but maybe we need to make some adjustments moving forward and that we don't always have to have every single answer right now that it is a community of people who deeply care for kids it is okay to walk through this as a process and I would just encourage us to look at at at what we're going to propose this evening that kind of mindset okay and if we don't have a growth mindset we turn into this right uh and and I like to reference this often U we all know what happened block they were everywhere right uh people were renting movies and DVDs and they saw this whole world of streaming coming and did nothing about it uh they were not adaptable I think it's fair to say that that the company managers Blockbuster didn't operate with a a growth mindset and so uh they no longer exist right and and I think in education and we don't want to turn into a blockbuster all right so the state the state decided that we should revisit how we're doing High School a long time ago and came up with some um uh key things that they were thinking about um fewer Indiana students were enrolling uh and what was like traditional college and kids after talking with industry weren't graduating with the skills that that companies needed them to have uh so they could have this you know um academic Mastery but no skills that went along with that and so you know they were finding out that new employees were were very knowledgeable but didn't know how to apply those skills from that uh real world situation um a little bit about kids who were looking at in listing we're finding out that they were disqualified based on a lot of things including their physical state like they couldn't they couldn't do that and and of course student apathy is getting more and more noticeable right like that connection to what they're doing in the Monday after high school um seem to be more disconnect and and Steve I would just say you know this is framework around the high school so you'll see like students aathy is high leading to high rates of chronic absenteeism in grades 9 through 12 it is across the board this is not a 9 through 12 issue if you ask Elementary folks it's an elementary thing if you ask Middle School anybody across the state everyone is fighting this and so we're kind of focus you know you'll see 9 through 12 today as we focus on this but know that this is not just a high school issue and so why do we need to look at high school this is some some data that the state put together several years ago and it's been presented in state board uh at meetings quite frequently um but but check out this here Indiana ranks number one Nationwide in terms of students com completing at least one college course in high school so that's important um six Dural skills this is important right if you look at our graduate profile it's over there on the wall and we we've identified those things as being important at Ground County High School and so the whole idea of high school redesign is more uh as is adequately preparing kids for the Monday after high school with not just academic Mastery but the skills that go along with that and so we they said it's just not working and so the state as you know adopted um a new high school diploma requirement uh this year and so we're going to get into those a little bit but here is the reality of our economy you see this ratio of 1 to 2 to 7 so in the current job market for every master's degree job there are go along with it two Bachelor level degree jobs and that go along with that are seven uh jobs that are correlated to something that needs a credential of value some kind of post-secondary training and so look at the numbers where where is the heaviest area of need it is those seven that ratio is not changing right so it really tells us as Educators we can't just focus on academic Mastery we we have to do the stuff that goes along with that and most jobs now require some form of training Beyond high school and so what we're asking you to do is think differently about the word College college just doesn't mean a fouryear university anymore well that is very important and we have a certain group of kids here who are forear University bound and they are being well prepared what about the other 80% right it is our goal to get them equally as prepared for what they choose to do so this college redefine from at least my perspective and I think several others in this room college is anything after high school any kind of preparation After High School whether it be a training program an apprenticeship anything after high school we are going to lump into this world of college okay and so we want kids is to understand what it takes for them to do what they want to do in life understand the education that goes along with what their their goals are and their hopes and their dreams and that experiences do matter especially in this the current state of our economy right the more prepared we can help kids be the better off they will be when they move Beyond us I think you've heard it over and over it's one of the reasons why I wanted to be at Brown County High School is because we don't do things status quo here uh I have seen for years high schools under preparing kids and all this other stuff and what was one of the great things about Brown County High School is we focus on that right it's not one or the other it's both and here and that is unique in education and credentials of value you'll see later on that the new diploma does create space for kids to walk across our graduation stage as they look at the week after high school and and create space for them to achieve credentials of value in the area that they want to pursue vocationally Beyond this and so the new diploma incorporates that Mr Ste there anything you want to say here just this point about the level of Education we have the work that we are doing with uh students learning their RC and their working beable and spending time in that platform even at a kindergarten up through the middle school kids are learning more details about careers now than they ever have right so my own two kids are coming home talking about careers that they learned about and it's not just exposing them to careers which is important but at the middle school kids are starting to learn like this is what I'm going to have to do for these certain jobs whether that's what I want to do or not they have the knowledge of knowing what to expect after high school so again focusing on high school but this is already starting to trickle down through the middle school and even into the elementes which is really cool to see and and I will just I will acknowledge right now the work that our elementary administrators do in leading this work in their buildings and and then Gavin f up at the middle school level this is I think our our elementary schools do a really good job of this right H if there is an area of growth I to be quite honest it's probably at the high school level right we are already doing great things kind of in pockets and you you know e manufacturing they're doing great things right biomed Mr fall they're doing great things and but there is a connection for what's happening in those spaces to what's happening in our core classrooms as well uh and and for the sake of our students right isn't it work that we we continue that work for that Foundation is laid in the elementary years so the high school diploma is kind of broken down into three sections and if you've heard this before I apologize but I'm assuming you've had conversations about this but there are three sections so there there's the credit piece kids have to get so many credits to graduate you've heard that you've heard that for years right the that Carnegie unit they've got to get 40 credits in order to graduate okay and there is uh the the competencies that they need demonstrated in and then employability skills so those three buckets if you will are required now to have a student graduate and so and the it's kind of changed over the years uh several different forms the core 40 has kind of always been consistent and so in the new high school diploma the core 40 goes away but but it's uh it's agenda of preparing kids for kind of university is still there along with some other things so we're going to talk a little bit about these three areas for high school this is a side by side comparison of the old core 40 and you probably can't see that well I I have some hand for you and I don't know if you all got them um did you all get a copy of this if not I can cast them down yes and so that so just just to make sure we're clear the legislators said the high school diploma must be redesigned they gave a timetable it was December of last year that the rule had to be approved by it was approved uh and so this this is it right the decision has been made and by leaders in our state and so the future Indiana high school diploma that's the the right side on your handout that is our new diploma beginning with our current eighth graders okay our current eighth graders so high school kids now returning operate underneath the the previous formula there is some space for them to jump over this new diploma if if they're ready to do that um and that's kind of a case by case situation we're still waiting on some guidance from the do how that might work but if you would look the diploma it it looks kind of the same there's a lot of flexibility and I won't go through every single one of these categories but there is uh they wanted to create more flexibility for our high school students so we could personalize their educational experience and so there this whole conversation about flexibility and less requirements ended up in a diploma that now has two more requirements on it credit wise which is kind of funny but if you look down here in the 12 credits of electives is really where the personalization and individualization is built into this diploma I think it's important as we take kids through their High School experience that we treat them as the Unique Individuals that they are right like don't they deserve that they are who they are with their own strengths interests and values and this new diploma model allows us to better serve kids in the in the context of who they are and where they want to be and what they want to do so there are some uh there are some there ability in terms of credit so let's just take math for example so the traditional math pathway was algebra 1 geometry and Algebra 2 if you are in core 40 that's what you had to take I don't know that every student needs to have Algebra 2 in order to be successful again and the state agree and so they said well certainly for maybe your kids that are College Bound that might be important to have right so that's still there but the state's asked us to come up with some other options for kids to fulfill that math requirement so maybe it's a bus or math related to financial management the states required Us in this new diploma to offer computer science and so I'm happy that Cinnamon's here tonight for computer science uh but that so there'll be a semester of computer science required for all students in the new diploma financial literacy is another piece that's required for all students we have asked that question forever right they can have all the academic Mastery that that they can have and then they get to college or they move out of their parents' home or they go to trade school and they they can't manage their checkbook so the state said hey that's important now it's funny because they said you don't have to teach economics anymore just financial literacy at Brown County High School through talking with our teams here we think teaching economics is important still and so we're going to try to put those two together so kids get both in so financial literacy becomes part of economics anyways right but there's a way for us to kind of structure how that credit Works to give kids both credits on top of just the general diploma for lack of a better term the base diploma there are these things called seals and that would be uh kind of the basic diploma and then most of the seals the the honor seal and honor seal plus require a certain level of work-based learning in order to earn those seals so the state ass set is it is important that you equip kids with these competencies as they look at life After High School but in order to really drive it home we're going to create a diploma requirement for these seals where it's actually embedded in that requirement so 75 hours is the minimum number of hours at Brown County high school after collaborating with our staff we think that it's Our obligation to equip students with a seal as a minimum okay and that's huge so let equate that back to what you probably are familiar with the general diploma and the core 40 diploma both lead to a high school diploma right core 40 is that College Bound and prepared there that would kind of be translated to our seals now we believe that every student here is capable of earning the seal so that's that's what we are going to set as the minimum standard okay I think that speaks a lot to the wisdom of our teachers and our staff as they our kids on an individual basis we know they are capable but more importantly than being capable they are deserving of that opportunity and so we are going to create a schedule that allows kids to achieve those seals okay so three parts of the diploma the first part they must earn the right number of credits 42 credits under the new diploma beginning with our current eighth graders so the diploma is kind of the foundation you will see them there's the honor seal and the honor seal plus I put our Eagle there because that's what our kids deserve to be the seal okay I think as we look at postsecondary success I I told you that this idea of college is changing here are some ways that it changes right of course College is still there University but technical school twoe schools apprenticeships service to our country we're entering the workforce directly every student by earning a seal will be prepared to be successful in one of those areas so which diploma is best for me we'll walk with our eighth graders and their parents through this process uh later on in February and we will talk to them about their strengths their interests and their values and and help them figure out kind of what path they want to go down are they looking at enrollment employment or enlistment as their destination when they leave the high school and then we will craft an educational experience for them that is in line with their strengths and their interests and their values the enrollment honor seal plus talked just a little bit about this uh this would be for folks who had questions about the core for the academic honors diploma it's still there right and through the seal so it's more rigorous and it it it would encapsulate more courses and dual credit offerings so kids can walk away maybe at a minimum with the Indiana college cor instead of 30 transferable college credits we already have many of those offered here of course we're partners with IU we also partner with ivtech and so there is a world that exists where many many of our kids can walk away with the first year of college and then some already under their Bel test have chose to the employment honor SE plus talks about combining rigor in in the coursework that is there for every other student but also Al it connects to the relevance of their their their experience outside of our building uh in in terms of their work experience while they're here this prepares students to go on to like an associates degree um or pursue a credential of high value students uh in this world gain skills that are helpful to them um as they they go out into the world in terms of employment um and I think that that gets back to our conversation you've heard me say several times these competencies the skills that go along with this academic knowledge the second box the second bucket that kids need to attain while they're in high school uh they need to demonstrate employability skills so it it was one thing for us to hear from industry and I think Indiana did a really good job at programing with industry but it's now embedded into the into the high school diploma they can be in one of three areas Project based service based or work base um for us after talking with our students and stakeholders there is a heavy focus on this work-based learning experience right it's a direct connection on what they're doing when they leave this place there are opportunities in project and surf based learning but we've built a schedule uh that we want to show you tonight that is really focused on a student's ability to get out into the world in an area that they find relevant to start giving them that Real World experience and sometimes even be paid for it how cool is that so this is that box to the employability skills you will notice that the second Point here talking about communication responsibility working with others that is in direct alignment with our graduate profile and I also think it's in in alignment with these competencies and so it's really nice to see a diploma that's bringing the work that's been done in this District together this district is an innovator there's no doubt about it uh and now we see that the proof is in the putting when in the pudding when that Indiana says here's now the diploma requirements that precisely line up with what we've been led to value in this community when kids complete these experiences they do have to write about them and that's that's part of the requirement they do have to process that our hope in as we as we build out our 912 program is that kids are able to talk about this experience before they leave us and we want them to own their educational journey and and connect the dots and so we want to create space for them to do that we're going to do it in a class so we're going to support them as they develop that plan but but we almost want them to defend their educational journey and walking across the stage is not the destination for us we care deeply about what happens to our students after that then I think you've probably heard it for a long time that Monday after high school right so the third bucket that Kids U need to kind of be assessed in is this this postsecondary Readiness uh and that's you can check that box several different ways with some standardized testing um but I think we're the state is still looking to broaden what that is um right now the the kind of the testing rubric at the high school level is the SAT we know that not every student is College Bound and so I'm not quite sure why we use that test to measure the whole other 80% but there are some other options there um earning the Indiana college core would be an option and the amount of dual credit courses that kids take so that's still super important apprenticeships would fulfill that requirement as well so lots of options there but if you'll notice everything that the state has said that we can use to measure that all is looking at Time After High School okay any questions so far it's a lot I know where's theed yes um Fox career Readiness um we won't go over this I talk a little bit about that if you want to know more about that we can do that um let's jump into the schedule so last year just bring you up to speed my understanding I'm new here obviously I've not been here and but when I met with leadership team they talked about this schedule had been done last year so I asked them to kind of bring me up to speed and fill me up and they have done a tremendous job my understanding is that last year it was quite a thorough process it took a year there were many meetings and Community input saw it and there were several different iterations of proposed High School right and we kind of identified as a team like why were there why was there always one more iteration of the schedule and it was that we were trying to capture everybody's wish list right we know with as many students as we have here that it's not possible in any situation to capture everyone's full wish list right but I but I think that speaks a lot about our community is that that was the goal uh to do that and so um their Vision was to really pour in to kids at an individual level right that's what this is here summarized really briefly to treat kids um as individuals and help them explore their strengths their interests and their values if you looked at our school data it wasn't lining up with that goal right uh and so there were kids maybe that are are disengaged from their own learning experience right like they don't get the why behind it they're struggling to connect the dots why am I in this class or why am I taking this how is this relevant to me towards The Day After High School how does this align with who I am as a person and so the team last year really dove into that uh and and identified that maybe a seven period day or an 8 period day accounting SRT is not what's best for kids and if you look at industry um industries that are successful are also ones that are willing to step outside of the box and be Innovative and creative with the way that they deliver their service to the community and their stakeholders so we thought that we could do that at the high school level um and so I just wanted to acknowledge the work that happened last year because there was a ton of it and as gav and I talk talk about a a high school schedule we really kind of focused on some of these big ideas that were driving this work number one the collaboration that we have as a small school district and the opportunities to collaborate K12 is what sets us I think apart from districts around us um we are sandwiched between several large districts and I don't know that they have the ability to be as personalized as we have here I don't know that in those larger districts they have the ability to sit with leaders in other grade levels and talk about what we want high school kids to leave us with uh I value our elementary school principes take on what that looks like they they led a very substantial part of those kids formative years right and so now at Brown County High School they in our school district they have a seat I know that doesn't happen in mg districts right and here we have that ability and we think that we can focus on our values of building small school relationships for doing something different we we think that the key to our success as a school district is the time outside of school kids being involved and connected to something other than their classroom and so creating space for them to do that to be part of our music programs and our athletic programs and our clubs that is important but we all know that kids that do that are the kids that generally do several things and then we slam all this work at them and say you've got to do now 5 hours of homework after getting home from you know a game that you traveled four hours in a bus for there and back like it at what point are we providing a disservice for kids by not doing something different and so we've really worked collaboratively to create a schedule I think that it's going to allow kids to have a little bit more say in what they do and a little bit more time in the day to do it so they can participate in this High School experience Kevin did you want to say anything about this just that as as we talk through it right that we came to the realization that maybe the middle school schedule doesn't look exactly the same as the high school schedule because there's things that we do want to accomplish at the middle school that are that's different than what you are accomplishing at the middle school right so as you were talking about kind of structuring your day you know one of the things that I think is is really amazing that we uh have support in doing at the middle school is that every seventh grader does take computer science class eighth graders are able to take computer science right the the state's mandating that High School takes a year of it our kids are already getting a SE or a semester of it our kids are already getting that at the middle school level and even younger than that in the work that they're doing um in pltw in their science courses right our kids are already taking Finance at the middle school and Entrepreneurship at the middle school so you know as as Mr Shum and I were talking through like what this schedule might look like you know we said well what does it look like if our schedules are different and how do we get creative and making that work between the two of us as we share staff and so that's what we've done is said all right here's we still want students at the middle school level to experience all of these opportunities to give them an idea of what they may want to do when they go to high school um try to flood them with every possible option and so the high school schedule is shaping up to look different than what we would run that we will run at the middle school and then it's on us to figure out how we work together with our shared staff and so this is this is kind of the evolution of all that work last year and our conversations this year around what's best for kids and I and I can't say it enough the the only thing that led every conversation was what's best for kids we as adults will figure out the nuts and bolts we will figure out how to get out of their way so they can have the best experience possible and so u i I don't know that it really has name other than I you could call it like a hybrid block schedule and because of this Wednesday so let me walk you through what our what our day will look like next year so you will see at the very top there's Monday and Thursday then Wednesdays in in the middle and Tuesday and Friday on the end so kids would be blocked in eight classes so their their periods 1 2 3 and four will be 87 minutes and they will take that class on Monday and Thursday their periods 5 six seven and 8 they will take on Tuesday and Friday for 87 minutes four classes a day on Wednesday they will see every teacher once okay and there's a reason for that and we talked about those work-based learning hours as we talk to Industry and I'm glad that that Megan's here part of that work based learning experience is being out in the workforce well we are kind of stuck here geographically right like in order for our kids to get somewhere that's relevant to what they want to do they may have to drive not everything is on Main Street downtown right so in order for our seniors and some of our Juniors to get off campus for that Real World Experience we've created a schedule where on Wednesdays they don't have to be in this building if they are doing that real world work-based learning experience so let's say I want to go into the medical profession I've been connected with a physician in Columbus who's allowed me to Shadow on those days I can go work an eight hour shift with that physici now I will tell you I think that that 8 hour shift is a closer resemblance of what it will be like in the workforce rather than going for an hour right and that's our goal to give kids real world experiences if we have a student who is looking at some kind of you know job in Machining or manufacturing and the best place for them is a company uh near Greenwood in this schedule they would be able to go and experience that Hands-On right if we don't offer this they are locked in Nashville and and I don't think that's what's best for kids this model is run in in schools uh in our in our area and in our state with a lot of success their data attendance connection graduation rates very high because kids are engaged in their own learning you will see that up there first period Mondays and Thursdays is a course called Eagle seminar I want to just spend just a minute talk to you about Eagle seminar Eagle seminar is a course that that came out of this idea that we really want to connect the exploration of kids strength interest and values to to every bit of work that we do in this building and so that is a four-year Journey that our students would experience with a team of teachers our ideas that the the group of teachers would be able to loop with them so they can really pour into the relationships with kids and get to know them at at at a deeply personal level that is the work where we help kids explore their rasc their strength interest and their values it is a place where we connect that exploration to what they're doing in the classroom uh it is a place where we build this the capacity of the student section at our games to be honest with you it is a place where they build community with one another uh we can't just do school here high school is so much more than academic Mastery we have to meet kids where they're at and and my observations in just one semester is that many of our kids the bell rings at 3:00 and they go this gives them a reason to stay connected and it gives our teachers an opportunity to build those relationships I think when we pour intentionally into that there in the eagle seminar we are going to see the climate and the culture of this building to a 180 and I've talked to people who graduated from here 20 years ago right and you remember when there was no room in the student section somewhere right you remember uh when they people were doing cool crazy things right uh Mrs Roberts and I worked really hard this year to build relationships with kids and our staff are asking for the time to do the same thing and so we think it's important the cool thing is is that we can code that class to meet diploma requirements so freshman would will code it as as PCC preparing for college and careers that's a high school requirement now so we can code it there maybe senior year we coded as a Communications course that was one of the requirements as they prepare to defend their education for us talk to us about their Journey before they leave we can give them credit for that experience so I think it's a pretty powerful opportunity that we have here will only Juniors and seniors be allowed to leave on Wednesday yeah so that work based learning is really tied in academic in their academic progress so the Junior and Senior year we have a few um we have a few sophomores that have internships but I don't know how far away those internships are and it is very small number of sophomores that have that so I hate to always say a very hard line um like we want to find the F but primarily mostly it's Juniors and seniors would also add to that just because it it is8 hours of the day doesn't mean that experience has to be for eight hours right like it's it's really up to the um the partner the industry partner and the the school district to be able to make something work for them um so I just didn't want you to think they're they're going out for a full eight hours maybe but maybe not with the schedule that was kind of talked about a year ago I remember seeing something similar was that implemented implemented in this year's schedule yeah so this schedule is is really the result of all those schedules uh and then I came in with a fresh set of eyes and and I just noticed some things in some of the old schedules like there was not equity for example in instructional minutes between the the courses that was important to me right like we needed to find Equity so we weren't mathematically valuing another class more than another right so that was important our team was able to make that work and Eagle seminar in in that eagle seminar is an opportunity for kids to explore their passion areas as well and that was something that was discussed last year and we think it's important uh for kids to take ownership of their learning experience right is to help them explore their areas of passion and this schedule allows for that not quite to the extreme that some of the schedules in the past in the past had had but this would be like every other week for one day a week for half that period 45 minutes to an hour every other week would be a Time for Kids all kids in not building to explore their passion areas I think that's important right like we have that's our job is to help them explore who they are and so there's an opportunity for them to do that in this while maintaining the Integrity of the instruction how about the ones that are going to go over to Columbus the schedule allows for it yep they'd still be able to go and C4 kids still Absol be able to do that okay yep the hope is that we recruit we build up programming that keeps more in more of year that we're not sending this right if we I think unfair to say like we have amazing opportunities with C4 and there are going to be things that we will probably never be able to offer here but the more we can offer here and keep those kids here is beneficial to us right like our partnership is great there certainly things that they will offer that we won't be able to but hopefully in the coming years we can bring some programming that allows more and more kids to stay and and that that's our team has talked about that and Mr Tracy has been really open to those conversations like looking for ways to to meet our kids where they're at whether that's expanding programs or creating new programs and I'll go back to how we started right it it takes a growth mindset no matter what we right whether it's looking the future in academics uh preparing kids for the money after high school or any other conversation that that centers around kid is is easy for us to get stuck kind of in this narrow mindset but I think in order for us to to serve kids well it takes the adults to get out of the comfort zone and and think outside of the box I'm proud that our staff kind of landed on this together um in full transparency we will have early adopters here that will get on with this really quickly there are other staff members that will struggle with this right like it's like let's just address it now when you go from 45 minutes to teaching 87 minutes one of the issues that will come up is how do I plan for that and so this semester we're going to build out options for teachers to come to to receive some training and and how do you make that shift we're going to support our teachers through this journey um you talk about a child maybe that struggles with emotional regulation during a class period they're still going to have that same struggle whether it's 45 class or 87 class but it's our job to come alongside them and help equip them as they transition in okay I'm super excited Gavin I thank you for being my partner and it has been really refreshing to have such a collaborative approach all our administrators and our leadership team and Debbie's been a great a great thought partner as well and I appreciate that it really does take a village and I'm grateful for the village that is here Brown County Schools one other thing I'd like to share so we presented this to a superintendent High School Superintendent andas gr last th last Tuesday Tuesday Yeah Tuesday um and one of you know one of the really neat things that kind of TS at your heartstrings is so Mr trowman was talking about evil seminar and kind of empowering student work in this area and so students start talking and then they're like you know would there ever be a world where we could use this time to build relationships with middle school kids so that they have a better uh feeling about coming to the high school as freshman is there a world where maybe some of that eagle seminar time we're down with them during their whatever their first period class is partnering with them just getting to know them working with whatever they're working on so that when they come to the high school they have familiar faces and it was like yes I think that's a great idea I think we did hear a lot of affirmation from lot right like kids I I spend it's one of my two favorite days of every month and it's when I get to be with the student ambassadors and then when I get to be with the adult ambassadors right about so much oury schools and I spent a lot of time with those kids and um a lot of time on high school redesign and the way we like just dream big like what if school look different you know and they want school to look different like seven periods 45 minutes every day like you talked about and then extracurricular and a job or home and whatever that looks like for every individual kid is doing an immense disservice to their mental health and they will be the ones that say that to us um I think it's time that we listen to them and um it's okay the school looks different I am incredibly excited about this schedule um I support it I am proud of it um I think it is going to open the door to do some pretty incredible things for our kids middle school and High School um so whatever that's worth so how does this intersect with the middle school schedule because I know you've got some staff and students who cross over yeah so it's all about plan like planning our periods to mesh up with their block periods and so that's what I was talking about earlier right now it become that's on us to figure out the Lis because we want to continue to provide opportunities for the students at the middle school and we can't you know like we can't teach everything at the middle school without the help of the high school and so the collaborative work that Steve and I have done and laid out the you know well what if they come down fifth and sixth then that'll be the double block of this time and then it'll allow it to work out so working with Steve on trying to figure out the logistics of that and and we have started that we have worked with guidance uh both middle school and high school we have had time together to collaborate and I appreciate that so middle school guidance counselors have have been over the high school and so we've started to craft schedules for our shared teachers that it does work for them um it's not it's not at the cost of any quality of programming at all or added personel or added personnel and would it be seventh and 8th grade schedule matching up sixth grade will still be its own well no oh because sorry because sixth grade flows back into the seventh and eighth grade schedule for electives so they yes they run their block schedule but they still come back into our schedule six period for our electives um and so that is when we also do Bay inquir so they come down six so just that little piece of sixth grade yes so we have sixth grade said they schedule 19 so thinking about a timeline moving forward right we would um obviously like full support of the board to be able to make a change like this because it is a big change um so we would like to bring it to the board um at February 18th meeting to approve and allow the school district to to make this change and um start educating our parents and we we have a robust plan of of communicating with all of our stakeholders right like my biggest fear right that that we don't do our due diligence there and I know with the minds that are have been involved with this we will do a good job and and so we want our kids definitely to be prepared and you know we're talking curriculum already for next year like the nuts and bolts are in motion and have been for several months I can tell you again just being from this area this kind of work you should know as a board doesn't happen in every school district and it is a shame uh it is absolutely 100% the reason why I wanted to be here and I proud kids first thanks for the opportunity does it look like we got any discussion items get a motion to approve the minutes of January 21st 2025 I approve minutes yes Vicky yes yes yes for Action needed items I'll have the recommendation to approve the second reading of the following theola policies in volume 36 number one as listed I moveed to approve the recommendation to approve the second reading second any discussion yeah we are not adopting these policies usually with the second read we go ahead and adopt um the set of policies and put them into practice but there is um one set that is just incomplete and I just need some guidance and support for from Neola U before we can take it back for a second reading and adoption so um we to February 18 to finalize these policies any more discussion a vote dou Yes Carol yes Amy yes jice yes I have the recommendation to approve a donation in the amount of $170 from the Community Foundation through a grant from Brown County Board of realators for spica Elementary for winter wear for the students can I get a motion to accept so MO any discussion thank you V Doug yes Carol yes Vicky yes Amy yes Janice yes I have the recommendation to approve a donation in the amount of $170 from the Community Foundation through a grant Brown County Board of realators for Vamp and Elementary for winter for the students can I get a motion to accept I should do second second any discussion thank you vote dou Yes Carol yes Vicki yes Amy yes jise yes I have the recommendation to approve the maternity leave of Caitlyn Carter effective approximately April 8th 2025 through May 30th 2025 can I get a motion to accept approve second any discussion anything as well yes Carol yes Vicky yes yes for the consent agenda items personel will start with the separation of BR County Middle School girls head track coach cinged May 10 through the transfer of Brown County High School boys head soccer coach loan F to Brown County High School boys assistant soccer coach effective February 4 2025 can I get a motion to accept so Mo second I'll second any discussion vote Yes Carol yes yes Amy yes Jimmy yes um for the superintendent update tonight um again I just want to express thank you to Mr shoman and Mr steel and that came together uh to work on high school redesign in that schedule um it is a lot of work uh but it's clear that it aligns with our our vision for the district so really really excited about that opportunity so thank you um I also want to welcome cinnamon is here um she will be our new computer science teacher at the middle school and the high school so we are very excited that you are here and then really the only other thing I'd like to update um the board and the public tonight is about the upcoming potential Bond projects um there's a few it's a lot right I think about this presentation we had earlier I'm not going to spend 45 minutes on this although I could spend hours on it so I'm just going to give a brief overview and then uh because this is an update from me I I would welcome that have questions to please ask um if I don't know them I will figure them out um and and get them to everybody so it is it's pretty big and it's pretty important to BR schools moving forward um we have an opportunity through our debt service fund okay so uh Public School Finance 101 we have an education fund it's where we pay our teachers it's the money comes in through student enrollment um we have an operation fund where that is used to operate the rest of the district so when you think about electricity or you think about um supplies um trash bags buses anything to operate the district it comes out of that that money comes from property tax um we have a referendum fund because last year we passed a referendum and that fund is legally only allowed to be used for what we campaigned or what we proposed in that spending plan and our referendum was for Wes and benefits for staff and the career Resource Center you cannot spend it on anything else that is it um and then we have a rainy day fund which we do not touch unless we absolutely have to touch that fund okay we also have a Debt Service fund and um when we take out General obligation bonds or lease bonds um it comes under that Debt Service which is part of our total School tax rate so historically Brown County School has had a a school tax rate of 57 cents historically um we passed a referendum last year and it was a 10-cent referendum so naturally one would think that okay if our school tax rates 57 cents and we just passed this 10cent referendum that our new school tax rate will be 67 cents however that's not the case when school districts take out bonds or these loans to do certain projects right we have X amount of years to pay those off when those are paid off we have debt that rolls off okay which lowers your tax rate because it's only coming from your debt service I cannot use Debt Service to pay any teachers I cannot use Debt Service uh to pay the electric bill right I can't move money from Debt Service to go into our referendum or into our rainy day fund it is solely for those projects or those loans that we take out so I told you that even with the referendum our school tax rate does not go to 67 cents we have debt that is rolling off in 2025 that lowers our tax rate to 52 cents I think it's 51 something okay we are able to take out an additional U lease Bond where we have two proposed projects for the board to consider that will our tax rate neutral at 57 cents okay the two projects that we have are completely separate one of them is capital projects uh around the whole District okay um and I'll walk through what what those projects specifically are in that price range and then we also have a proposed project for the Athletic Facility upgrades okay so we have two proposed projects that will be under one lease Bond okay it cannot cross over at all they're two separate projects now there's also just to complicated a little bit right um there is something called a petition remonstrance and obviously a referendum if a a school district based on a percentage of their AV can take out a bond or a loan up to a certain threshold where it does not force you to go to a petition remonstrance or a referendum a petition remonstrance is um where there's an opportunity for the community to have a percentage of opposition within 30 days I don't remember what the percentage is but if a certain percentage of opposition comes within 30 days that forces the schools district to take their project to a referendum and put it on the ballot so there's this threshold right Brown County Schools based upon the AV or assessed valuation in the county is I I think right up to the line $6.6 million if we wanted to do a 6.6 million dollar project we can do it without a petition remonstrance which ultimately without a referendum right all it takes is a board to approve the resolutions to move forward with the project let's say that um Brown County Schools wanted to do a $19 million project across the whole District right that's obviously above the 6.6 threshold that forces the district to go to a petition remonstrance which means once you file it you have 30 days or the community has 30 days to oppose the project if they get the percentage to oppose it that forces the school district nope you have to take it to a referendum and put them on ballot if nobody opposes it or you don't get to that percentage guess what after 30 days school gets School District gets to raise the school tax and do a $19 million project make sense okay we don't have a $19 million project I'm not proposing a$1 19 million project um very fiscally responsible we do have a priority list across our district and uh both of these projects fit in to keep our tax rate neutral at 57 cents spread out over your payments and um allows us to be able to to do the we need to do we wouldn't be able to do out of our operations fund if we didn't have this Bond okay so now I'm going to talk about the projects um it's one lease right one lease two separate projects the very first priority is uh when we worked around the district obvious was the hbac at van I don't think anybody will question that that's the priority um when we initially started to explore these projects um we thought that this one project was only going to be vanan and we were going to call it vanan project um but then when we realized that we could do two separate ones and still keep that tax rate neutral we decided that open the door pretty wide for us to be able to take care of some Capital project around the entire district and then still be able to do an investment in our athle Athletic Facility upgrades so the first priority being bu and Elementary HVAC upgrades um it it replaces all the handling units um I think you think about the few oil burner um all of the things that come with an HVAC system would be replaced and brand new at HVAC that piece of the project this piece of the project is anywhere from 2.5 to$ 2.9 Million moving down the district with capital projects um in 2021 the district took out a bond for the high school hbac across the whole building because of the limits on the bond or the scope of the project when they built it out the science Wing here at the high school and then the main gym ox gy and weight room did not get HVAC upgrades so all this P side of the high school has been done that side has not been done I don't have a science teacher in here but 57 degre some days 87 they know they did not get their their wing done um so the high school science lab HVAC budget is anywhere from 750 to 900,000 and then the gyms in the weight room is anywhere from 1.5 to 1.9 which takes the capital projects scope anywhere from 4.7 to 5.7 that's a million dollar range right there's a million doll range for a reason they get into bamban it's ancient and something comes up right there has to be some built-in contingency to be able to deal with the unknowns okay that is one project 5.7 I we could go up to the threshold of 6.6 I don't need 6.6 to be able to do those projects are there few other projects around each of the buildings that we could do absolutely but if we can put this in our bond project that keeps the tax rate neutral then that frees up money my operations budget to be able to look at bathrooms at the high school to be able to um look at lighting at van in the uh bus lot to be able to look at the front doors here um to be able to look of at the middle school that we weren't able to finish with the last B that we did right it just opens up some space to be able to do that so this is one project the other project is the athletic uh facility upgrades and we will start with the football field Turf Improvement so right now we have grass um and we are looking to replace the graph field with Turf um to be able to paint on our soccer boundaries so we can also have soccer on the football field um I it also opens the door to be able to have um marching band competitions it opens the door uh I think for some excitement around cheerleading I think it's an opportunity for us to do community events like I I think the possibilities are endless in in how we want to use that um it it will be absolutely incredible as you some of you know there is a portion of the football field that is in a flood plane um the engineers and The Architects that are working on the scope of these projects they know that they have the plans um they have done the assessments to be able to figure out what we need to do ter of that flood plane they came back with three options one option was to move the entire football field out of the flood plane which means moving everything back um strongly discouraged that because of the amount of money it would take to just move everything and everything being new so we took that off the table the other option was to be able to raise the football field x amount of feet which is a possibility and it's not out the window as of yet but it will cost at least a million dollars on top of the turf project to raise it so we thought that's an added million dollarss right it's just an added million dollar um and then the third option that the engineers came back with was um to keep the field where it's at we don't have to raise it but we use the highest technology possible with the absorption and everything that goes into the turf um to be able to have the maximum absorption and if we were to have a flood like we had in 2019 18 whenever it was um will there be an expense to fix it absolutely um will there be an expense to fix it if we don't enter absolutely right so we have to take that into consideration that Turf scope right there is anywhere from 1.9 to 2.2 remember we have that range because we have the unknowns in addition to the scope on this project project we have the football field lighting upgrade so we which is the range is 300 to 375 um we basically get to keep the poles um they're just switching out to the LEDs and then um in addition to that we would do a replacement or an upgrade to our scoreboard again to be able to add LED um different lighting thing cool things that you can do um with technology and then to obviously be able to have something for soccer or right not just for it to say football um and then also we have an opportunity when we do that we think about the track so we have a track replacement option just we have a track resurfacing option obviously resurfacing is less than replacing it um so we can take a look at that if we're approved for the projects of what what is really recommended for us to do we don't want to get in there and say yep we're just making executive decision to replace it if they get in there and they're like you don't really have to replace it but we don't want to make that decision until somebody comes in and actually looks at it um so replacing the track completely is anywhere from um 950 to 1.2 and then the last scope of this athletic project is the football and track new restroom concession locker room so you know about our the campus right there there's only restroom it is clear over by the school and that's the only restroom that we have available outside so we would like to be able to add um an additional restroom um have a locker room so we can grow continue to grow the program and half space and then move our concessions there um and then think about the space where our current concession is maybe for officials or or something else um but that that restroom locker room is needed right there it would be right um in between the home and the visitor and then so that piece is anywhere from 1.8 to two so if you think a total budget for the Athletic Facility upgrades is anywhere from 5.2 to 6 million so let me come back two projects is under one lease right one building Corporation lease being able to do these two projects sprad out over the debt payments over 10 years allows us to keep that at that tax neutral of 57 um I guess a few more things to highlight on um we also did price out baseball turfing the baseball fields and the uh softball fields um I have proposed that we put those that project on hold or um maybe put it back in the list of priorities down the road if we were to add those one of those projects it takes us over that 6.6 um I don't believe we should go to a petition remonstrance um I I think we have debt rolling off in 20128 that opens the door for us to to to look at some more projects um I just don't think we need to go down that road um I think uh coming back like some questions that I've receiv is is about cost of Maintenance so our current grass fields we have the football field which if you haven't experienced the football field I think one football game uh coach Bell took me out to the 50 yard line and it's like oh I had no idea right no idea how bad of shape our football field is in um it needs some major work we also have the soccer field that's out at Eagle Park that um is is very just status quo like there's nothing special about playing soccer on our field out there um it needs some work when we think about irrigation and um painting and um the True Green or the the maintenance of the lawn right to keep up it's going to cost the district anywhere from 20 to $24,000 depending on what kind of year and weather that we have and that's annually um we look Turf right um and can move our soccer games over there I mean we're not going to Turf our two practice fields um but it does it does change some things right an annual maintenance of a turf field is anywhere on average from 3,000 to $5,000 a year it's closer to the $3,000 a year in the first8 to 10 years right and when you get to that 10e Mark that's where you start thinking about okay where where are we at and it's dependent upon again uh weather and everything that happens on the field right but that 10e Mark you start looking about okay um when do we talk about replacement what does replacement look like um replacement of a turfield is that going to cost us the $3 million again to like we did when we put it in um and no the answer came back that it is typically at 50% that it costs of what you paid to put it in in the first place um I think I think it's important to know that um bonds right when we sell bonds to have the money to do these projects let's say that the board approves the resolutions to move forward with these two projects um let's take the field in the flood plane and we get down the road and I don't know somebody from the state I comes in and says you can't do this because of the flood plane aren't stuck with taking out money that we won't use or we can't use because now we can't do this project right we just don't sell those bonds and it lowers our principal amount right that's really important for people to know in the worst case scenario right we don't want that to happen but at the end of the day if that happens we're okay we just don't sell those bonds the other piece that I've heard is that um we just spent all all of this uh time and effort to pass a referendum and that referendum was for our teachers and our staff members and our career resource center and now we're going to take money from Brown County Schools or from that referendum to pay for this Turf project we're not legally allowed to do that first and foremost right we we cannot do it you cannot do it with the referendum you can't do it with your debt service right so there is absolutely nothing that would uh allow us to do that if even if we wanted to so that is just education to the community or our families or staff or whoever um to know those different processes and where they come from um presented at Ambassadors last Friday with the adults and um went through this whole overview and I'm sure I missed a few things um I don't know but at the end of the conversation someone reminded me reminded everybody in the room that yeah we do we lose kids to athletics they're going to bigger Schools they're going to schools with Turf they're going to schools with field houses um but you know what we have 1463 kids right here that are worth it and they're worth this project they're worth the agback project um and um I think it just really it put it all back into perspective for me um we can invest in it and and see where it goes or we can sit back and and hope hope kids stay or hope kids get excited or hope this um I am strongly encouraging the board to to think about um the primary so um I will I know that was a lot I open it up the board has any questions does anybody in the audience have questions um again I will try my absolute best um to answer them and if I can't I won't be shy to tell you I don't know but I'll figure out what is the timeline on these like I know I know the timeline for when we go through our process and get the money but then when do you think would be completing these projects um yeah that's a really good question I think that um of course with the H at vanen again that's first and foremost priority so they will move forward with those steps I would imagine this would be a summer project um and the athletic uh the turf field I mean all of the conversations we've had is kind of dependent on when we move forward so if the timeline is for us next board meeting February 18th Performance Services will come and present this final scope of both projects and then the March 3D board meeting the board would approve the resolutions once the board approves the resolutions that allows the school district to move forward when we know that answer then we can work with uh Performance Services on they start the bid process right they'll start the bid process on both projects and they'll work on it simultaneously we would hope for the turf right that if we could um we would probably strategically schedule or reschedule some of our home games so we have fewer home games so they could start earlier if if we could get in um maybe if we could at least have October um half of September most forunate but if they can get in there where where we're not having home games then we would hope to have track season in Spring of 2026 this fall 2025 if we were this fall 2025 we will start our football season and our soccer season on regular on what we have now um if we have approval we will probably reschedule some of our home games to see how much of September can we give to contractors to start working all projects everything as listed performance service bids it all out um and then they present those bids um to us so um they do that work for us so it's not like I can say I want you to use this company right they they will bid it out and um they will recommend based on quality and cost I remember when they did the HVAC here that it they told us that it would take a lot of planning for them to be ready to do the H I assume then that's probably not this summer but next summer would be van I'm not sure I I don't know that answer they might when they come present have a better sense of that um yeah it it just depends on what they can do ahead of time um I think Vann is so unknown because they don't know what they're going L um they're still burning furnace and it's still got tank yeah that's thank you that's that's a good question very good what else or does anybody it's a lot safer the other thing I want to add to is the safety for the tur Fields it's a lot safer if you go out there now and you look at ankles knees all that fun stuff it's it's a mind field you don't even want to walk on it let alone play on it so for what it's worth um I went to school over in Columbus we turfed our fields and it dramatically helped everything so from a safety aspect you get that bonus as well I can add to the fact that um many of these companies that we've talked to about the fields love the fact that we look at multiple programs utilizing not just football soccer that the more wear and tear they can get on it actually is better for its overall life expect which helps the longevity of of it so that is one one thing to keep in mind and you know the repairs are going to be annual for for whatever things you have but the more that it's getting used the more that it helps it what they tell us we had a student that unfortunately I was the only one the football program then but we had a student that went out last two years ago with B injury because of our field our practice field wasn't our game field we had one that was went out this year for an ankle who still dealing with an ankle injury on our football field it's we need to start thinking about the safety of our kids and honestly we've got kids kindergarten all the way up I don't know of all the kids that are gotten hurt on that field or those fields but I know it's more than those two um the other thing that I'm looking at is I mean Mr BR and I have had multiple discussions because I was the youth director at a point in time and it was we had to schedule our home games for the Youth to correspond with the high school to St CLA we couldn't host the tournament because the field was in poor shape we actually had had rather link disagreement because we had an Edinburgh game that completely destroyed our home field I what two hour discussion very heated but it was you don't want to discourage the kids around here just because we can't invest the money in there yeah I think it's like it's tough because when you hear two like 5 point something project and a $6 million project like you hear $12 million right and and how is Brown County Schools not paying for 12 million dollar that's why the tax rate is is so crucial if we let that all that debt fall off that we've ever done we keep it the 51 or 52 cents that we have we would not be able to do these because we could not fund any of these projects this debt service and and using these bonds to keep a t a tax neutral of 57 cents allot that's what's allowing us to do these projects honestly um it's not like we're taking $12 million from Brown County Schools $28 million budget that we have it it just isn't and it's the only funding vehicle we have for large projects we don't really have other than being able to borrow money for these kinds of Lo yeah I I think somebody also had asked about where did these priorities come from like did we just pull them out and say I want to do this and and no like we go back to to Dr hammock I think in 2018 um had the facility study done across the entire district from that study it was determined they did helmsburg they did spica and then uh the high school was that next hbac project um the middle school back on the 2018 they still had on that priority list for secure front interest and for HVAC it just didn't hit the priorities of the other buildings up to that point um that's why when we did the Middle School right that Rose to the top to be able to do that um that's why rising to the top we also a year and a half ago looked at it like um an investment study as you could say and thought about well HVAC is one thing right that we have to do we feel really comfortable with the uh debt that's coming off in future years like okay where are we at at actually doing some investment um around the district that's not do electricity um and yeah the athletic facilities has has risen to the top I mean and it's not just Turf right like we've got a lot of different things we would love to be able to do um just believe that this here and this now is the best thing for Brown County Schools um a lot of people talk about a Fieldhouse um I would love to have a Fieldhouse they told Mark on day one right I want this I want this I want this and that was included in that um I just I think there's a vision with strategy and intention um that pushes that just a little bit further down the road um we think about a connector we've talked a lot about a connector between the Middle School and the high school um yeah it'd be awesome I think it'd be really great we need it for a lot of different reasons um but we don't need it right now we don't need it right now um so for what it whatever it's worth as the superintendent yeah I I look at those priorities and then I present them to the board and um and that's what I am recommending that we move forward with um again Performance Services will be here to to present on the scope what I just presented on um at February 18th and then um I would recommend moving those resolutions to the March meeting for board approval anybody else um kids are worth it but but also when we to proactively upgrade this athletic uh fields or manties definitely that could be the reason that we maybe just bring more families back to County if we keep five that we're going to go because they get excited about it or if we bring five back because it's like oh I can play or I get to march on the field or I get to cheer field or whatever it may be gosh that's better than hope and 10 just didn't stay away right like why would why wouldn't we invest in it I think something too that I I thought a lot about I'm not from here you know here in 2014 but one of the things that I was really encouraged about and coming back for is like the information that it's not just for our kids so like my husband works from home and he does a lot of um workout and stuff and a lot of that happens in Columbus just because there are groups and there people there but a lot of people also use our track because it's free because it's open because it's available and it's nice to have that like and I've I've started going there more often myself just because so I think it really like that part of it is for our schools but also ties in the rest of the community that might not have kids in the school too so I think it is really important to see that it's not just for school corporation it's also for community the scoreboard would have to be approved by the town have asked they consider it a sign um I don't think we'd have any problem getting something approved but that is a step we'll have to go through well and I was going to say actually we hold one of our largest community events um in that facility which is the 4th of July and um the lack of bathrooms is a real deterrent for folks it's a long long hilly bumpy way to get to the bathroom from just about anywhere um so I I me I think it's not exactly the field but it is just you know it's our facility and we want it to look nice and we want it to be prepared not just for students and staff but for the community to use well I I just leave it with if anybody here has people friends family in the community that have questions and you don't know how to answer them um please tell them to call me or come to the next the February 18th meeting um one of the two so be happy any anytime always to talk and and help people understand and that's that's all I have legislative update all right um I am the legislative liaison for the board and it's you know we're right in the middle of it right now any of you are following what's going on in Indianapolis um what is today February 3rd so we are one4 of the way through the legislative session um and today in fact there was a hearing on one of the bills that we've been carefully watching it is um Senate Bill 287 which is whether or not Schoolboard races are going to be partisan or not um this has come up for the last three years and has been um not passed but um it is still being studied and and there was a hearing about it today in um the senate committee on elections and apparently they did not they passed other bills but they didn't pass that one so they were trying to hopefully take some more I don't know exactly what else happened today um but if you feel strongly about that um we have a lot of um I mean we are nonpartisan we don't run on a ticket and we think that's really important for schools we don't think that schools are a partisan issue we think that school board members I'll speak for myself but also for the School Board Association um who opposes partisan elections for school board that we don't think it should be a political issue um it should be something that is nonpartisan and that citizens should be able to run for school board without having a party affiliation or feeling indebted to um anyone for once they get here so if you feel strongly about that um contacting the senate elections committee um or Senator cook uh about your feelings about that Senate Bill 287 um there are a number of um property tax bills you probably heard about um some of them are over my head I have to admit um because there's a lot going on with them um but we've got to keep our eye on that because obviously whatever the property tax re form is um can affect how much money is available for schools um so uh I don't know where those are right now they've had a lot of hearings on them um but if that is something for um people to be aware of is that those bills really do matter to how much money we have available for our maintenance of our our general maintenance of our buildings um and our other operations budgets um another bill to watch is that um House Bill 1498 is asking that we go back to an a to F grading um system for schools um and it passed through the committee 11 to zero so we are likely to go back to um a to F rating of schools um so you know if you have an opinion about that I encourage you to talk to um representative Paul so those are um those are a couple of them I will say generally as far as the budget the governor proposed an annual 2% increase in state tuition support formula generally for schools um for each of the next two years of the budget however inflation is 2 and a half to 3% um and and I don't I mean the the word that I've heard is that it you know they don't think the governor what the governor said is what's going to happen so um we really never know what that looks like until they get the State numbers of like how much tax came in like around I don't know April 15th and they have to be done by April 30th so honestly all the discussion that happens up to that point it doesn't really matter much because once they get those numbers then they will come up with a budget at the very end the last budget session this is um just interesting and important that um they sent out the numbers um for every school district and then superintendent um noticed the discrepancies and the errors in it and within 24 hours enough superintendent contacted legislators and got it changed um so that tells you the power of of doing that yeah advocacy is really important so if you're interested in those things you want to talk to me about it I'm trying to follow those things I'm going to go up to the state house a couple different times here in February um and try to talk to legislators and and you know try to Advocate on behalf of small rural schools because that's that's who we are and and sometimes we get lost in these debates you might have heard that there were issues about um you know that could close IPS schools um that doesn't affect us by the way that's that's not about us it is about uh IP s and Gary School specifically and um but they talk a lot about those things and then they don't talk about the issues that we're facing and so we want to just always make sure that we're not very many but we can also make sure that our our legislators are listening to us so that's my update thank you can I get a motion toour the meeting so second second all in favor I I I
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[Music] welcome to week 10 of the ihn regular season uh this will be the first competitive week of the spring split today the bluon Cyber ERS will be facing off against 26 other uh schools totaling 69 players throughout the the state of Indiana and the game of tetrio and this Swiss style bracket the players will attempt to win best um best of five 1 V one matches yes that's a thing that they'll be doing yes very cool very cool uh we should be introducing the player soon I believe so yeah I think it's just all right currently in 12th Place in this split Alex AKA Gil oh wait he's not up ah there he is I wasn't looking at the camera but here is here is Alex currently in 12th Place in the split AKA gaale leis Maro who was currently oh he's not in the thing that oh wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait waiting waiting for Maro that that's Jordan okay I guess I gotta go Jordan next Jordan aka strixe X1 oh no Jordan who was currently oh now it's Baro okay I'm very confused I'm having an anur trying to read this okay B [Music] C the entire [Music] stream okay I think we're restarting um back this might be take two uh just in case we are restarting uh sorry for being repetitive if we are not like restarting from the top uh welcome to week 10 of the ihn regular season uh this will be the first competitive week of the spring split today the Bluffin cyber Tigers will be facing off against players from 26 other schools totaling 69 players um in the entire I guess split um throughout the state of Indiana in the game of tetrio in the Swiss style bracket or where players will attempt to win best of Five One V one matches just notice it says this is the first competitive week now this is the 10th yeah in oopsy doodle whatever who cares it's the I think I think I think it's week 10 of overall but the first week of the spring Split For No it's it's like the fourth week of the spring split whatever anyway let's introduce the characters the characters I don't think I should call them that I don't think that's what they're supposed to be called anyway currently in ninth place in this split EMT AKA Lego Master also we're going we're going yell for yell Owen AKA oh [ __ ] is currently ranked 20th in the split okay once he shows up yeah there he is currently in 12th Place in the split Alex AKA Gil Lis okay Baro AKA X dark ninja is currently raided fourth in this split up next currently ranked third in this split Jordan aka sty X1 okay uh next Hunter AKA lazy Soul s is ranked second in the split second place in the state and currently ranked eighth in the split the last on the roster clay AKA Firestorm I might have won that we we got we got to we got you might have won we got to bring that to HR yes way way better yell for y than cull but yeah you might have won is this a Canon event for the first round for the Cyber cybertiger Cinematic Universe dropping oh my goodness us oh we're back hi are we're going back to the Canon event and the CCU also known as the Cyber tiger Cinematic Universe no I I don't think they've started yet no one started yet actually I think I think we're just like waiting yeah we kind of did intros early usually we have a match ongoing while we're doing the intros yeah which yep we have we have match with Owen oh I think every I think it's uh starting now I yes we begin okay they were quick okay dang oh wait I think that might have been I don't know if that was an actual game I don't know what oh and oh practice match okay oh okay they're practice matches all right all right I was really confused cuz we just we had Clay win a match as well but I guess that as a a quad yeah qule yeah and then he could no no he couldn't he couldn't do a te- spin quad right there he does have another t-pin setup does he get it yep he will go for it all he has to do is just get the tpce gets the tpce gets the te- spin double right there big miss m drop but it's okay finished he he does get the t-pin Finish mhm going up 1 oh here we go oh yeah reminder your cyber tiger is on the left side of the screen Alex is on the left side of the screen his opponent Raven King is on the right I wonder if he'll use the opener that I taught him today we teaching people openers I I did teach him an opener I'm not even on the team let's see he's just 9 by one second right now going getting the double quad back to back combo one if he gets a combo of five and then he breaks the com it'll send an additional five lines off of whatever broke the combo gets another quad back to back number two oh he does break the combo it will set I think one line he does have SP set oh raving does not get it he gets the quad though he's got to get himself into a position where he can actually deal some big damage right here yep right here this is going to me opportunity quad quad let's see how oh it actually didn't send Alex uh that far up but he does have to down St just to get all the way back down yeah he's got he's got to get that opening that garbage opening oh with the PE unfortunate one one one to one yeah in case you don't know what back to backs are if you do either a t-pin double t- spin triple or a quad line clear if you get any if you get any type of spin it'll count towards your back toback oh okay yeah back Tob backs are basically strings of those big attacks and the more your back to back is the more it'll send Yeah the more damage it deals it'll even just be like if even if you get like a back toback two and then you get like a quad your quad will then sit in five lines yeah that's why double quad is like very like deadly in very low ranks when people don't really know how to down stack because nine lines if you can't clear it out to then get um like the Line open for yourself to do quads then you're just in a really bad position yes you want to get the the back Tob backs racked up as soon as possible the double quads are very yummy for that yes yes that's a weird part of my vocabulary I call things yummy he does get the another m on the tpce meanwhile off screen unfortunately Jordan is going to take a loss to stalo off screen that is good I I have a parlay If he if he loses three 0 I win $15 so he hopefully he doesn't sell my parlay oh do you yes I do joo's in it uh Alex is in it and Silas is in it oh well we didn't get to see the match so we don't know the score yeah I was about to ask why is why are you referring to that is good our cyber tiger lost yeah I I Get Money but you're winning yeah I I'm I'm winning money it it'd be good for us um for for the Cyber Tigers I I I told him I mean I might I don't I might give him a little bit of money if he loses because it's like you know I'm I'm praying on his downfall I'm being a bad friend but I need money I'm broke yes oh that's what that's what you're talking about with that $10 in the hallway okay now now it's 15 oh very nice now I get it now I get it see oh t- spin set up see he just needs a t block it's about time yep there is he gets it oh okay it's two two all right Clay is also two2 against uh brma master I I cannot pronounce his name that is Brian Bri Oh I thought it was something else okay yeah Gail Lewis and Raven King route for the left side that is your cyber tiger t-pin setup it's looking like y yep let's see all he needs yep he has a t- spin boom no back toback score because he had to get a single uh yep okay he's going for another t-pin yep gets the t- spin does he get the set he goes for another setup he's got it ready he'll get the single he'll get the single though will he get another oh oh he he kind of he he could have gotten it but he won uh just more garbage to down stack as well let's see triple single single nice combo it's going to open up that hole yep quad and then I think he could had this T spin he could have had a te- spin yeah see stacking up again getting the quad yep quad that's nice will he build up or will he just try he's going to go for the another t- spin setup yep Raven King's got to waste some time down stacking double let's see how oh this will definitely get him really high up in the board he's waiting for a quad but only be a triple whenever he gets it so Alex can easily clear out that garbage yeah he's got a both Fighters have place for game unfortunately yes yeah an unfortunate string of Mis drops there yeah yeah if he if he didn't miss place he definitely could have won at least one of the games yeah that one was just jockeying for position to try to get into a spot where see will ow get the T spin set up he does have it let he can see he cannot see it unfortunately I believe we had to I saw on the side I believe Owen in um round three actually hit an all clear what very early on he did yeah I I think I saw out of the corner of my eye I saw Owen hitting an all clear so he does have that in his bag yeah yes he's got it I'm not going to finish the lyrics of the song I didn't even I didn't even know what I didn't know like the reference that you were making I'm not even going to lie that that song Venus about something probably a Venus what what are you looking at me for I'm not you have no proof oh okay I oh Canon events going on Baro versus e back to back number one he's got that hole in his get thein oh breaks breaks the um back to back yep getting another quad spiking emit up yep setting up for another T spin yep let's see it is he does get it you see t- spins a lot high level very yummy very now I Go Again saying yummy let's see o finish off with the t-pin double very nice all right going into round three Baro looking the same open that he did last time I mean it worked last time oh that's what oh yep he's he's just stacking High I've seen this yep yep double quad goes up gets another setup let's do just clear that hole yep he's a t block there it is t- Spin and then yep just just down seconding a lot Owen does get the quad let's see how much Ro we sent oh four line still do sent B does have the t- spin double set up it's going to be a bit before he gets the T block there it is though he does get it and then martello just you know some short efficient down stacking the triple single in the quad yep sting big garbage it is not enough but emt's been doing a nice job he's actually doing a really good job EMT he has a line in there looking for aay Quad he needs to get to that piece though will he yep oh he he wasn't going to drop the JPS he down he does have the oh he did have a t- sp he has another one though big damage coming through yep he is defending very very well yeah emt's been staying alive in this he's been dropping quad so he's staying alive better than I would yes he survived the beginning Onslaught now Baro has to get setups to actually get back to that point where he can deal that big damage he was dealing at the start of the match oh that is game you know what I found out today you can spin the opce like like the 2 by two you can spin that how does that work I have no clue I want to learn how to do it though it's just a square I don't yeah I don't know how you spin it also I found out that if you would do the ice bin which it's like really insanely hard to set up but if you get a quad with that it sends 10 lines which is half the board oh so I think that that's probably the most damaging thing in the game probably but like no one does it because how do you I spin yeah I seen someone where it's like it went like boop boop boop I mean kind of difficult showing it with just your hands boop boop but like I I get it kind of oh meanwhile Owen picks up his win very nice 32 that was a very close one that went to last round got a couple last Rounders yeah pretty good uh first round for our cyber Tigers I don't know if we have any more matches I don't think we do uh break I believe yep okay that is round one Owen listens to Metallica while playing Tetris okay I guess uh but yeah that is the end of round one we will see you pretty soon for round two when it begins so it's it's the J block where I can't the block where oh SP piece that's me yeah [Music] a [Music] f [Music] a [Music] for [Music] a [Music] oh he's closing the door we are back for round two and we are going straight into this round with a Canon event ladies and gentlemen I also won my parlay and everyone he's gonna need his parlay also I got my parlay I'm making $15 because Jordan got cooked very nice which unfortunate I mean I mean I guess I guess nice it's it's good for me bad for bad for the team yes how sad how sad here we are we got Baro on the left side of Jaden oh we're making this joke again this guy's still in the league it's Jaden didn't get cooked by B got Lego Master versus clay and Clay does pick up oh already second round Victory mean offc screen Bara picking up a victory over me you're getting off screen I got off screen how you're getting off screen un fort on Fort un Fort unfort I thought you were referring to fortnite no that game with me going it yeah and on the left side of your screen green Clay on the right root for your respective spawn it's I probably could have worded that differently but it just seemed right to say I don't know fre I don't know I get a little bit quirky here in the in the getk room the commentators T tend to 10 to they do get a bit quirk I I I can hear Colin yelling at me for stuttering the commentators tend to get a bit quirky during the evening yes there we go yes that's the thing that they do yes am un all my my God very he's actually a chef put him in the kitchen we got Hunter versus Yeet stroke not to get confused Deathstroke the I I forget I think he's DC I don't know where he's from but theoretically e stroke should have been powered up because Jay Uso the guy who said ye won the Royal Rumble but no the 3 0 from Hunter and is that already it we went fast yeah no we're like speed running Hunter's 20 next next Canon event next Canon event people there's more Canon event we we got to substitute Canon events because beyond the spiderverse is getting delayed again oh man yeah it keeps getting delayed because the voice actor's weird I've only watched the first one but I I've heard it's pretty good and I main Penny Parker and Marvel Rivals so like I appreciate that yeah Marvel Rivals which I'm Diamond W I don't play it a lot but I want to get out of bronze because I'm better than bronze and it just starts youing bronze no matter what yeah so I just want to get out of bronze because it's embarrassing to be in brze yeah you got to get at least gold for the The Limited Time season skin uh which is what anyway he it's an invisible woman skin say the thing it's Canon event Canon event there we go I think we have to say it so we can do the transition we said it we said it like three times yeah we we said it before we started talking about Marvel Rivals anyway we got Alex Gail Lewis on the left and we got Owen on the right let's see Alex going for the open right onut him he does mess it up whatever you still got a te- spin set up if you BL right yeah oh go for it very nice oh Alex has the setting where the screen doesn't shake that's awesome yeah I can't play like that I it's like I have like a stroke if I do that the shake yeah yeah because it's like if I'm playing like high levels and like I do the opener and and it's just like a lot of just boom boom boom boom boom mhm I get it it's flashy but like please don't I don't want to have an epileptic seizure in the middle of my ranked match yes weirdly I had to like get used to it again after I like turned it off I had to get used to the screen not freaking out I had to get used to the screen not bringing the bo I was going to make I was I was going to do that with a te spin you stole my joke oh I apologize you can still do it well no not anym what did I accidentally say it during a te- spin yeah you said like right as he as he as he tees spun oh perfect I wasn't actually paying attention to the game that I'm commentating get a load of this guy get a load in this guy what you can't say that on stream I just did okay I couldn't resist it iiz 9 by one St let see going for the double quad boom boom double quad boom wait like what we bringing bringing the that was actually very unintentional trust chat we're bringing the brain rod we're bring we bring the brain rot skib ity like gritty right foot I'm walking with that heater oh my goodness meanwhile we are putting up the worst commentary job in human history meanwhile Alex is currently up 20 on Owen yep let's see here let's see the opening seconds of t-pin single coming through from Alex yep all right yeah they're just up stacking right now yeah ow and delivering some small combos looking to S te spin set up bit of garbage there it is into a double teasp double into a double double double no basketball the double double yeah oh yeah I remember I used to play a this like old uh Nintendo game on my Wii called double dribble I remember absolutely nothing from it but I remember it's a basketball game with like NES Graphics M cool probably better than 2K still probably better than 2K I think they had a really like crappy version of the like national anthem because you know it's game yeah like very like low quality yeah with the worst singer they could possibly hire they just got like some random programmer out of their seat to go sing The Star Spangled Banner real quick we'll pay you double that's get paid double he got the bag he got he got double he got paid double like the double dribble like the name of the game like Alex getting the te- spin double to finish off the now never mind what is he doing let hell oh my goodness put him in the marketing class the marketing class he would fit right in with the silic where's my there's my hair don't put him in the marketing class though that class is so boring I know I I took principles and was exactly anyway that was the Canon EV I think that I think that's just round two I think I think round two they did uh do they bring the boom no Mr Linda world does not bring the boom we're taking questions from the Press right now from the press in the center of the room does not bring the boom I I must confirm yeah that is going to be uh Alex getting the three Victory anyway okay uh shout out to one of our sponsors really quick Adam Wells huge shout out to our local internet provider Adams Wells internet Telecom and TV they're directly responsible for our Esports players being able to compete because they're incredibly fast and reliable fiber internet speed um if you are in the market for um Internet TV or phone service please check out adamswells.com that's adamswells.com yes it is another one of our sponsors the Moose special thanks to oopsy yet special thanks to The Moose for sponsoring this event as well check out the garage here in town on Main Street it's a cafe slame room/ music venue for the Youth of Blu and to thank out what to thank out to to thank you the Moose SL garage for sponsoring us you're very cool are we getting oh Baro is on it now we have we have one more sponsorship though importance yeah well we should also probably save the sponsor though okay to can we go to Boro screen oh after the game Banger gameplay yeah uh this is like Tradition now oh they're eating pizza I want more I'm hungry in case you don't know emt's Dad brings in pizza and water for everyone he's very cool very today I learned that Papa John's pizza is good they don't put enough pepperonis on their pepperoni pizza I don't know I just I just eat cheese cuz I'm a plain guy like that I don't really uh I never really ate that much pizza because I just thought it was like greasy and sloppy but Papa John's is actually more like it's it's clean yeah it's cleaner you know it's not just I'm I'm chugging a bottle of Grease yeah it's very nice it's more bready if that makes sense there's just I I can't really taste the sauce when I eat it though this is turned from Tetris comitting to Pizza critic yes as I choke on water y as I choke on water die he does get it Jordan Beats the level yes sir he beat the level okay wait maybe if I drink more water the water will stop choking him yeah the W the waddle I think it worked I'm a genius wait wait wait wait wait oh oh oh and this is just incredible gameplay right here riveting riveting gameplay he got tired of w he set the level wait no he he got the bubble that he was stuck on though he got the balloon but now he's going to be stuck on different ones yep now he's stuck on like five others the loop oh wait a oh oh wait oh oh oh okay top right top right top right top right oh it's like it's like the DVD screen saver oh he got it he got it very nice green question mark green fortnite green fortnite oh he has to Green it again oh he has to put more power into it oh wa to not be red oh it was a yellow oh red that's not even red that's that was like lit no color it was the white one yep wait oh oh oh oh tipping nope wait wait wait no okay oh they can't hit this guy okay just drops the ball wait wait wait wait wait oh it goes in oh but now it's actually got to hit the bottom wait wait wait no he can't he has to wait now because like he oh he's he's going to look at me very disappointed I sad he nothing but a broke boy boy boy boy I think he's nothing but a broke fiend f f fi he can't hit his shot though oh my goodness he can't hit this shot oh my go oh just chomping on Pizza is he actively chomping I forgot I mean they probably are I I had to I had to like stop like eating like I got banned from eating like you got banned yeah because it's like one time I was eating and they could like hear my saliva glands like activating as I as I ate like so they could like hear the saliva coming out of my mouth like were you eating during a shout casting I was eating no like I was like just eating like around the Esports room unless it's like a Tetris day like I like people like can't hear me eat on a mic because it's like they can like hear my saliva glands like activating like the micel picked it up I can't eat quietly how do how you're supposed to yeah how are you supposed like all of a sudden you can't not have your mouth make sounds that's if I chose slower yeah if I choose slower then like I'm going to lose the flavor then I won't eat it MH no you'll gain flavor that's only in some foods though like it's it's very rare I don't know I just kind of eat all food the same so I don't really know what you guys are talking about Jordan getting absolutely cooked by this level oh my goodness why is the fail off center developer what are you doing H the developer of this Flash game where you bounce a ball what is he doing he needs to put more effort in for real ski buddy ski buddy I'm I'm ski buddy buddy I'm skiing who what did what did that do no that is for his safety I'm sorry we're having a discussion with the guy on the stream that is for his safety that is for my safety it is for his safety yeah it is it is when will around three be starting no clue we're just we're just uh we're just waiting it took a bit for round two to start we we got to eat an entire Pizza in the time that it took yeah this intermission bark bark we don't act like this actually in these Sports this is a bit we put on for shout casting because we're bored exactly we act worse yeah actually we swear mhm on everyone's soul but mine mhm for real what is this some block blast oh my goodness he's in the Among Us character what that level looks like an Among Us character that he's on Jordan yeah I don't see it you don't see it I'm trying I I don't see it now he doesn't have the backpack I like I see the legs like I see TR with like the legs but like I don't I don't see like the like nose and the nose or the the yeah I don't I always think that's like a nose it looks like a nose oh are we actually we're checking up on round match ups for round three I'm currently attempting a bottle flip he's currently attempting the bottle B also do that I didn't do it I hit it no no oh he hit it I hit it I hit it he did it I actually hit it okay no oh I just realiz it wasn't even on me yeah no okay a he did it yep you think we're going to be doing that in nursing homes when we're all old Jen shny watch this oh oh you can't oh CL stalo that's the guy who made me win my parlay oh yes sir yeah we got Clay on the left stalo on the right St going for stpc yeah stalo is a very big deal in this league very powerful creature creature is a crazy violation of words getting another I couldn't I didn't even know you can do that like you blink and then you're dead exactly that's how high level Tetris works yeah it's like meanwhile we also have Alex and Opie oh my goodness Opie is one of the other top contenders in the basically the other one yeah they're both massive massive you know what else is massive you know what else is massive there you go good job I'm afraid of what I've started because now I have everyone in the room saying low taper fade cuz I said it once yeah it's your fault it is I know now I have to live with it yeah unfortunate uhoh oh my goodness but he he is uh stking down see up quad single clay doing a very God a very good job ye stroke oh my goodness it's ye stroke I was going to say something that I will not say it what say it no comment you know what I just said earlier yeah that's about the load that's you oh I just realized he was Oh I thought the match just started oh well it ended y got this match just started yeah yeah we're currently in round one of Lego Master on the left in Aquamarine on oh I just yeah they Alex got off screen oh how sad meanwhile I don't think Owen has even started his match up yes oh Owen I don't know I thought you were talking about EMT yeah EMT on the left route for him unless you have a parlay on aquamore we got to start doing that we start having parlays the bets yeah there we go oh meile oh I'm surpris I saw I'm surprised he's just not going for the quad I I know he's waiting for the double quad but I mean still yep boom boom there it is the double quad now it's just down stacking yeah boom boom Oh the seven combos going to oh my goodness gets it 20 very ni getting some Pats from his dad his pops his PS py oh Owen's screen is stuck ah oh it's oh probably like what's actually being like shown for his screen not his camera okay okay so maybe he's playing we don't know yeah probably yeah let's see if EMT can close out aquamarine here in round three Jordan already 20 against Raven King I just saw the match start and he's already up 20 all that's happen happening off screen Alex is down 02 to Opie yeah that that's just to be expected with like anyone facing Opie it's just like she's so insane at the game yeah Opie is wild speak you're going to see it right now oh Alex does do the opener oh he he does he doesn't student he doesn't get the um other thing he didn't uh Slide the SPs correctly Op with a quick quad another quick quad and a t-s spin that might be oh he should have placed a tpce yeah he got to survived a tiny bit longer right there that speed and efficiency from Opie yeah that's what just high ranking is like are you fast and like can you efficiently and quickly set up like you know te- spins and everything else cuz meta the meta's changed actually since like a year ago which I mean to be Tetris meta there there's meta for stacking yeah H which is like weird cuz it's like the way it it's because back toback got added meanwhile Jordan did just win oh yeah I guess that I guess that would change something yeah and like the actual like system of getting back to backs to you know there's a victory for EMT very nice very nice yeah I believe Owen is playing off screen but we're having technical diffic difficulty two for two two for oh my I'm two for something I don't know what I don't know we we're not counting we're not C Hunter hasn't gone yet soon yeah we I guess we just got to wait on those last few matches here we go we don't have to wait any longer there's a tpin double immedately yeah Brian master master master of Brian is he just a master in general or is he a master of Brian is he the best Brian is he the best Brian around we will see Owen is ow and one ow 0 one Owen oh here we go we got a hunter on the left side of your screen as usual oh getting the t- SP oh does miss the setup went too fast messed it up y it sucks when you do it with something like t- spins nice seven combo yeah see going for the S yeah he's getting an S spin right there the Mini S spin I don't know how you get like an actual like s spin I know I know you get like a mini t- spin I don't know how you get a mini S spin though I just kind of mash it to kind of like finagle it into the hole and it either works or it doesn't 90% of the time it doesn't and then the other 10% of the time since I'm mashing so much I don't even know that I've hit it Hunter does pick up a game against briesta very nice doing some sort of special opener oh my goodness setting up the tpin Double T triple you can go into a triple after that apparently he got an ice I just got a mini ice spin oh big quad double with the back toback score exactly Jeepers they they can't see don't know that you're doing that I'm like I don't I don't know like what I'm even doing I don't know like what that's called I don't know doing something with your throat you know what else you can do with your I'm sorry he's not yeah you've made some type of joke like that every stream I have never punished baby yeah it's a miracle honestly and as we as we talk we should be commentating but we're we're not uh Hunter does finish his game and this actually the first I've seen in a while of him um like actually having his camera oh but his camera is blurry you used to just be able to see his forehead oh it just focused yep yay we had congratulations to Hunter on that last round Victory Owen is currently 02 in the match that we can't see because technical difficulties aura yes I just got AA did I just nonchalantly flipped my bottle and got AA see look look at the chalant Blue Jay trying to do it oh my Aura is crazy literal chills literal chills oh my goodness we're so skibbidy actually that means bad we're not skibbidy yeah we have Lord Aura like in Marvel Rivals exactly I hate we have slow walking in Marvel Rivals Aura I did that in a comp match I did that my game to Diamond we won I don't know how to do that cuz I'm on keyboard in outro whatever youall got wait there's only oh I forgot they they changed that they only three yeah it's only three rounds oh I forgot I when I did it last year there was like there's like five rounds I was here until like 7:30 oh it's not oh I just realized we have another sponsor I thought okay oh yeah we missed a final sponsor do you have a favorite nonprofit that can do some that can use an a awesome you go I'm not do you have a favorite nonprofit that can use an awesome fundraising idea I know you do Janet auction is an online inperson auction 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[Music] hello clockers my name is hi silver and I'm very excited to bring you another segment of WCA news blog today I'll be giving a quick update on the latest Ashlin happenings as highlighted in the town manager's newsletter first off the priority project update traffic calming speed signs speeding has been a major concern in Ashland and town officials are taking action with support from the select board arpa funds have been used to install 10 new speed r our feedback signs in key locations including Chestnut Street and Myrtle Street these signs remind drivers to slow down and collect data to improve Traffic Safety officials urge all residents to be mindful of their speeds to keep ashlin's Road safe some news you need to know congratulations to firefighter Connor McBride ashlin's newest firefighter Connor McBride has graduated from the Massachusetts firefighting Academy's intensive 50-day training this rigorous program prepares firefighters for a range of emergencies Beyond just fires including hazardous material incidents and rescues congratulations Connor and welcome to the team Ashland's Boston marathon runners 15 dedicated Ashlin residents are set to run the 2025 Boston Marathon each raising $3,000 for the baa grant program to support local initiatives you can support them by donating through the town's website this week's Community shout out goes to Ed idus and the The Bagel table this week's Community shout out goes to Ed idus who is the co co-owner of the bagel table a cherished spot in downtown Ashland since 2018 for the past seven years Ed and his team have served up delicious Bagels sandwiches and coffee while creating a welcoming space for friends local organizations and town events The Bagel table isn't just a cafe it's a community hub from hosting nonprofit meetings to supporting the annual Holiday Stroll Ed has always been eager to give back and bring people together his dedications shines through in the friendly staff the inviting atmosphere and his commitment to ashin so next time you're in town stop by The Bagel table grab a bite and support this fantastic local business thank you Ed and the entire Bagel table team Ashlin is lucky to have you some local meetings programs and events for upcoming meetings stay informed about what's happening in Ashland Town meetings are held at Town Hall in the select boardroom or remotely and can be viewed on waca TV agendas are posted at least 48 hours in advance so be sure to check the town website here are some upcoming meetings Tuesday February 4th the Board of Health will be held at 7:00 p.m.
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Mr eki here Dr her here Mr Grio here Mr Cher Al United States of America stands indice all right members of the audience seeing none we'll move on all right view policies for first reading electronic devices so um this policy is predicated on the conversations we've been having about the cell phone use and the survey which we reviewed I don't remember what month that was I think it was December or was it was that in January that we discussed that was it January last month we've been talking about we talked about the setup for a while and then in the last meeting we uh reviewed the survey results which were um for the most part pretty supportive um of the existing process that's in place so what we have here is the existing process um it outlines you know K to six you should not have your cell phone 78 you should not have your cell phone in both cases the teachers have the authority to employ those if kids have them and they want to use them for a certain reason the teacher can direct that but generally speaking kids shouldn't have their phones out um because they're distracting and I I want to go on the record and say that I don't believe cell phones are the devil I mean you guys know I've been way out in front of limiting social media and engaging active Play Because social media uh is can be really detrimental for kids that's what research says um but it's not a cell cell phone isn't the devil it's what are you doing on it and I think there's a real important role for social media uh for kids and I think it's important they learn how to use it correctly or whatever but um generally speaking it shouldn't be during math class so you know this really limits access during the school day academic time at the high school um you know they the cell phones can be collected or left in backpacks but they in essence they shouldn't be out during class unless directed by the teacher to be out the exceptions to that being things like study hall or lunch what we've seen is a dramatic reduction of use of cell phones in those times which I think it's because it's been away so much it's you just seeing a lot less of it which is really great I'll tell you that's what we're aiming for so yeah because there's a much higher level of student to student student to adult engagement when you walk around the building now than there was before we started really enforcing that that's I don't have scientific data to back that up but I've got a lot of anecdotal just my own personal experience going through the building um the one thing that I think is probably going to be a hang up for some is we're telling kids not to bring cellphones to the bathroom um I mean shouldn't have your phone out in the bathroom anyway um videoing and everything else but um we all we have a PA system designed where students are starting to get used to uh signing out it directs you to certain bathrooms we have the ability on that P system to you know if you're somebody who's uh violated policy you've been out for a number of times or you're always out during period with your buddy down the hall like we have the ability to shut that off so if you signed out your buddy can't sign out uh for a while you're limited until you you return um so it's uh it supports us keeping bathrooms clean accessible workable you know in working fashion um so because as you know I me since I I was principal in 2012 um we had issues with kids smoking in bathrooms in 2012 you it was a different world then um but still we have issues with Vapes and vandalism and things like that um now and we're trying to really aggressively limit that so students have the right to be able to use the bathroom during the school day a safe clean bathroom um and so we're really focused on that um I'm thinking as much as I you know I want to make sure parents know that this is the policy so if we do a first reading of this I will send it out again even though we've sent it out on multiple occasions and say hey this is the policy the board reviewed the first time last night if you have questions or concerns email us so what do you think those why do you think the bathro part would be conern because I think the security thing is an issue for some folks that what do I do if God forbid there's an incident you know security incident my child doesn't have their phone on there in the bath oh when just away but you would think it would there would be a lot less going to the bathroom yeah class time we obviously we don't we don't want yeah yeah we don't want the other reality is you know because I don't have X-ray vision thankfully like if a student has their cell phone in their pocket I'm never going to know yeah and you know because and we don't do Pat Downs before you use the restroom but you know don't take the cell phone out you don't have a problem you know unless the teacher may say hey leave your cell phone here if you're using the restroom which which could happen and you know I want to make sure that whatever we adopt is a policy that everybody can live with students staff parents so I think it's worth approving in this fashion sending it out and seeing what sort of feedback we receive can I ask um in the schools that have an outright ban oh cell phone ban yeah cell phone band where you got to put them in yeah the pouches or whatever are they so does that mean it's they are locked up all day so even in the cafeteria and in study halls depends on the school but yes some high schools have that yeah so I ask because that is in ours where it can be used in the cafeteria of the commons should we consider Banning that yeah my take is no um at the high school level because you know we're preparing kids to move on after we're trying to teach them how to be responsible young adults um and you still get to bring your um you know cell phone to work and everything like that kids will have their cell phone if they go off to college nobody's taking your cell phone um and so we're trying to work on responsible use um more so than just pure prohibition of in all places and I think so you know social media does have a lot of positive benefits to it um but doesn't if you didn't have a cell phone in the cafeteria that continues to promote H the one time where there really is human uh unregulated human interaction is now the one time where you finally get to use your phone and what I've seen Adam you know going into the the lunch you know looking in cafeteria Commons at lunch is different today than it has been which is a very pleasant surprise to me and I think too the kids at D um they don't have the cell phones out at all at lunch is they matriculate up like they don't find the need for it uh the way that some of our kids have in the past um and by the way we're we're setting a a policy that we could always change if we find that to be an issue um but I I really think it's important to teach kids boundaries and um help them live within those boundaries as they get developmentally older I wouldn't think it's appropriate for a 12 or 13y old so so just so I'm understanding so the the progression here so at the high school beginning at this year it was just the start of this year right is when the cell phones were actively being discouraged in the classroom in Earnest across the board yeah okay and then you saw and yeah pretty much improvement in human interaction essentially absolutely um so now what we don't know is when that eighth grader right because we haven't had that yet where they had the ban at lunch in the study halls now they're going to be going to the high school that assumption you're making it's probably not it's G to be well okay I finally get to use my cell phone at the high school now so now we're going to kind of get to see how that Happ where you're being more restrictive to less restrictive um I'm making an educated guess that they won't be binge surfing at lunch um when they move into a cafeteria with 10th 11th and 12th graders who are not doing that behavior that's an educated guess more than assumption I'm going to go with I'm G to give myself some credit and go with educated guest rather than assumption now um how many lunch waves are there at the high school three okay there's only three okay so would there be any or do you uh do the uh I guess the AIDS that are there do they do any observations someone who's maybe excessively on the phone because it could be a sign of a uh uh what's it addiction or something not well not an an addiction a um antisocial Behavior I don't know what the modern term is but know what I mean yeah withdrawn right yeah yeah our our lunch AIDS um by the way our administrators are often circling through the cafeteria as well too are observant they're asked to pay attention you know there are several hundred kids in there obviously so might they miss something one day yeah several days probably not so if it gets to the degree that you're referencing I think they're more than likely to pick it up report it have a conversation um find out because if even if you were sitting at a if you were sitting alone at a table with 10 people and that's what I would consider it like you're there but you're not there you know yeah that's my concern is that you got at a table but you're not interacting with anyone cuz you're just yeah and like I said you know maybe you don't feel like talking to someone and that's fine yeah yeah maybe you texting with your job for after school or something you know one day but uh and I think one day most of our people would be like all right then maybe they'd ask depending on your demeanor or whatever but if it's several days then we're going to ask going to have that conversation um and you know if that's what's going on then I don't know that the ban is going to as not going to discipline you you need some support of some sort right yeah it's more about kind of yeah which we're going to kind of get into in The Bullying thing of the whole support piece of right life so because because I'm just wondering because I don't know if was there a a goal statement in here because is the I'm guessing the goal is to have balance in self-control right that's the goal is to have that balance of human interaction and being able to use your phone responsibly well at the high school yeah it doesn't outright state that that's the goal at the high school um it the overall goal of the policy is to ensure that we have an appropriate learning environment we don't speak to the goal of developing appropriate use at the high school but I would say that that is a goal of parents of you know staff uh I'm sure students too want to have a balance because our kids will tell us like I talked to kids doing the whole anxious generation book talk and all that other stuff man I wish I knew then what I know now and you know I know it points especially when they talk about being a middle schooler maybe even a freshman that I was more consumed by the Social Media stuff than I am as a senior um and so we have particularly girls um trying to Circle back we were working on this after uh the first book club meeting I had but I know Kevin is working on pulling those girls together to talk to our freshman and then maybe our middle school students because they were very interested in doing that after we read the anxious generation and had the conversation just because I just because I've just been learning kind of like with the iPhone 16 and and Google with the the roll out of their AI Technologies where my understanding is the phone is constantly interacting with you listening it can be it yeah it can be I would think a lot of people would even prefer it so now you have a device that is designed to interact with you to continue to keep you engaged and now we don't want you to do that so you know we may you may not have a choice but to restrict right as that technology becomes more Advanced or is it I your brain or whatever like where is the world going it's unbelievable but um but you know I just mean phone based technology yeah and you're bringing up really fair points Adam and I you know like I said this is a policy you'll see on our building policy where we've amended that like a doz times the last years like this one you know we can come come back to it if we feel like we need to uh and make adjustments as we feel like we need to you know the last time we wrote this policy we were worried about beepers you know I don't think it's going to be that long before we look at this one again yeah yeah not with all the advanced yeah Jeff can you tell us where um where the structure for this policy yeah so it's a hybrid between what cab had provided and what we're already practicing right now um so they had kind of like the Preamble part which I made mild modifications to but then um all this stuff here the elementary school middle and high school that's what that's what we do you know it's what we do I really appreciate having and what we surveyed the people on yeah I really appreciate having this uh in this format policy format so thank you for putting this together so this is only a first reading you know like I said I think what I would do is send that out after uh and you're talking about sending it out to the whole Community the parents yeah so this next one is new legis and I wanted to just I don't want to really belor this but um I went to this training I brought Marlene um and um Dr iene Tracy with with me to this uh this was this is part of their slide deck their original slide deck was 110 slides and we weren't going to do that tonight A lot of it doesn't have anything to do with policy so I just kind of uh paired it down to the stuff that was more relevant for this policy but you know I just wanted to give you guys context and rationale here about what we've been doing like um as Adam and an will tell you uh Mike and Carol are probably even tired of hearing about it like how many times the policy has just changed over the years and you'll see some of the context but the basically the reason for bullying laws is is not just like following the letter of the law but to create a safe learning environment um that's emotionally intellectually safe it's a positive learning en environment for every student and adult um there's the definition I'm sorry for this being a little wonky but I I just uh had to upload it from Google docs to or from uh PowerPoint to Google and I haven't had the opportunity to fix it but the definition of bullying basically everybody has a different definition of believe all 50 states did um and pre Coline taken right from the de definition one habitually cruel to others weaker than himself and it's that imbalance of power that has always been a staple of bullying post bullying and more recently we've kind of manipulated that a little bit to all mean-spirited behaviors be them once be them 50 times whether there's a imbalance of power or not it doesn't make those situations okay it's just not bullying and what the law sought to do was really focus on um providing a Better Learning environment as opposed to um oh boy that is wonky I'm trying to fix it to it won't let me fix it but you know what I'm logged in as me so I can pull it up on PowerPoint we'll do that instead oh shoot computer all right sorry about that this should be much easier to see all right yeah so you know this was the old mentality this Progressive discipline is the way to solve the problem and I always said you know when thinking about disciplinary issues if you know punishment was effective Chester Correctional would be the best school in town and it's not consequences are Effective Education is effective um simple just Progressive discipline isn't enough to change behavior in most cases um so this is the history of the bullying law in Connecticut the first number that 2digit 02 all the way to 23 that's the year that the law changed so the law has changed in the last 20 years 1 2 3 4 five six S 8 9 10 11 times making it really hard for parents students Educators to follow so is a state law you this is state law yep so um the 23 Connecticut bullying definition unwanted an aggressive behavior among children K12 that involves a real or perceived power IM balance um now that's you know context dependent um and this is where you know professionals determine what where that context is was context defined somewhere um not really it the context is power depend uh Power imbalance is you have to evaluate where the power imbalance comes in and we'll take a little bit of a look at that in the um what the uh in the policy too so again the power imbalances about again abuse of power in the school context a lot of this isn't typically what happens if Sparky's being a jerk or mean to another person it's generally not a power imbalance piece um it's mean-spirited and it needs to be resolved and there but it just doesn't necessarily meet the definition of bullying anymore um so what determines here is a power and balance I think is what you're that's a huge change yeah yeah massive massive shift yeah massive shift um is that int was that they realize it's intentional or yeah it was all right um through a lot of Investigation uh because a lot of everybody's time was spent investigating these nuances of you know trying to substantiate a bu bullying claim or not um the label of bully made investigation twice as hard because now you know even parents don't want to tell the truth about what's going on um it it it detracted away from the real effort to improve the school culture and change student Behavior you're spending all your time you know chasing uh down investigations and not fixing problems um and so they wanted to make a conscious shift in that direction so they're not most things are not power imbalances there are mistakes that kids make um and so instead of playing Ma wake whack a all with all the changes um many principles like like I said we're spending a lot of time we we are victim of this too and when we talked about this with our administrative team there was like a bit of a relief like we can focus on the things that really matter as opposed to filling out a six-page investigation form um so again the focus is really on improving School climate um as opposed that's again I want to reiterate I can't say it enough there are consequences for misbehaving there that should come with education and restorative practices but it's not you're going through this um this investigation report that's just short of you know a um calling in Sherlock Holmes uh and spending those that many hours on it it's it's really about what happened how do we fix it is the the change in Focus uh again the real cure for polic bullying is creating a positive climate hanging up a no bullying sign is that's not fixing you know things uh the term bullying gets misappropriated in a lot of cases how do we fix mean-spirited behavior and create a positive climate for everybody a climate of respect that's what the focus is really on and so you'll see some of the things that have to happen as part of this in order to um to create this these definitions are not in the slide deck but they are in the policy that we're going to review so if someone is attempting to physically dominate someone else like someone's bigger than the other person and they're just you know you can have that's now considered mean Spirit you can have an imbalance of power based on size you can be you know if that's if you're just in trying to intimidate and I mean I think that's a more traditional application of bullying yeah you know the big bad guy trying but a little guy can have an imbalance of power too you know if you're in a high school situation and you're um you know the captain of the team and you're harassing a a freshman who's maybe three times your size there there can be an imbalance of power there too and so that's what the law seeks to find is there an imbalance of power um so you like sort of start there and then it starts it's bullying starts and ends with inbalance of power um you know but if there is not that imbalance of power but you're still doing things you shouldn't be doing there are consequences and education for that too um but we know already without going through this whole litigated process that it's not bullying and we're focusing on fixing the problem as opposed to labeling a bully or not a bully you know which I think is the welcome shift um that a lot of Educators have have said um so these things LA are all defined in our policy um the statutory requirements so um I found this really interesting not later than 2024 which is behind us uh training is made available to School Employees in Seal welcome aboard you know we've been there for uh part of a decade School climate Improvement restorative practices all things we've done tied toal um other identified research evidencebased programs efforts we have to um obviously protect safeguards with IEP 504 plans there's references to furpa as well I have to give an annual report on the number of in incidents of challenging Behavior that's um effective July 1 2025 when uh the new PR policy starts um no retaliation for anyone reporting challenging behaviors which is already you know in place um so the meetings held no more than two days after challenging Behavior so for people who are like oh they're throwing out the bullying they're not they're not they're not throwing they're not saying we don't have to investigate this anymore this isn't important fixing the problem is important that's more important than labeling a bully or not a bully is what we're trying to focus on now so um School climate improvement process consists of a continuous cycle of planning evaluating you know action and implementation it's just a cycle so you know we're trying to identify what the issues are we're looking at the data we're um setting a plan in place implementing the plan reviewing the data determine adjustments things like and it's just that uh that process that cych goes through so so seccom safe School climate committee for each School shall administer a safe School climate survey to students employees and families we have we've been doing that already every other year um that was required as part of the law um what is clear in this is that they parents receive prior written notice of the content and administration of such survey and have reasonable opportunity to opt students out of the survey um which you know is kind of disappointing you know I I would want survey feedback from all students um but it right now the uh survey had gone through the curriculum committee and is coming to you you know the full board again so you'll see it the survey again before we send it out out I think we'll you know we're going to adhere to this even though it's not part of our policy yet it became part of the survey policy that we were doing so we'll send it out once we get a chance to review it and who made that determination that students were people can KN out the law that's in the law yeah so School climate Improvement plan what does that look like effective July 2025 uh each year the committee each school has the committee they'll develop an update is necessary the plan so they're looking at the student survey results recommendations from Members um data uh they um the team is defined in here of who has to be on the team you'll see that in the policy so this is then made available to everybody and we have to send it out to the um you know the constituents in the building by December 31st so in the fall each fall they update it Implement review it in the spring then review again in the fall with the new data and feedback and it's just a continuous Improvement cycle hopefully so training requirements again I already touched upon you know um we have to educate our folks in social emotional learning these are things that are already part of what we do so this is easy piece for us funding the law speaks specifically to funding District shall find in its discretion uh allocate sufficient funding to satisfy the requirement so basically I know we just went through the budget process we're already doing this we will continue the so the PD money we have allocated it's not like we have to go back and say oh no this we have to add more money for that was already part of what we do so we didn't add anything in the budget for that um we have to adopt and allocate adequate resources we already do and the resources that treasure allocates are you know uh at least on par with what other districts allocate so um this was part of their slideshow that I thought was really important worth sharing as much as this isn't really so much about policy I think it uh speaks to the way that we've tried to tackle um what what we do here uh it's all about relationships um with our staff and students it's about setting a positive climate between our students and between our students and staff that is critically important I mean we have hunt literally hundreds of teachers and thousands of students here and we do our very best to try and do that we've been focused on we're always trying to get better recognize we're never perfect um but it's really about relationships and um so this quote that they had in their slideshow I thought was really important School administrators know that Educators who naturally and intentionally create wonderful relationships with their students and their parents or Guardians and build and nurture a positive classroom Community climate are the same Educators who experience the highest academic achievement it is the same group a Ono one correspondence and if I'll challenge any you know anybody to reflect back on their teachers who are the most effective if you had a top 10 list nine of them are like this you might have the one who's the kudin but he taught you a lot you know but you probably wouldn't sign up to go back there almost you know it's like nine out of 10 you're going to find this to be the case almost always which may sound familiar right I mean it's what we've been preaching for like I said the better part of a decade you and you look at our achievement it's gone nothing but up um as we focus on these things and that's a real Testament to our staff and to the board for funding that approach we've added mental health stuff so this I thought it was funny that they had this slide after I was thinking well that's our Crossroads that they had this kind of same idea with the the driving idea but where it all comes together so these were the two folks who put the presentation on they work very closely the folks that actually joyan F Friberg worked for the State Department of Education for a very long time um and retired and was working with uh Patricia shonne who was a um former superintendent the shore um and they've been working together doing a lot of school climate Consulting so I I wanted to share this with you and I apologize for you know I w't say dragging out the meeting but I know it's you know usually we're just looking at policy here but I thought it was important to have that context when we took the look at the policy and um we'll find a way to fix up that uh PowerPoint on the link if you want to go back and take a look at it but um so in essence this is the policy that outlines all those things it's got definition of school climate what constitutes a positive School climate so this is replacing our bullying policy in total the one that we worked on for years yes sir I you know but this is what what do we say the 12th time the law has changed in 10th well we we worked on it that gap between 14 and 19 when we we really sunk our teeth into it and made it very much more user friendly I think than the legislation ever could have been and you know I think it was solid um but all the law has changed so now we've got to Pivot I it's totally different yeah so um you know you've got the definitions where do the definitions come from uh statutory definitions over there um you know I did appreciate their reference to uh Team Dating Violence so how about like our um Anonymous reporting and all that that all stays the same okay yeah that all stays the same um we we have something called speak up where uh I think we talked about it in here actually when we had Mike Papa uh come and visit where you can submit Anonymous reports um you can still submit Anonymous bullying reports um it's just filtered differently now I mean it's again I don't want to if I said it once I want to say it a thousand times misbehavior is still misbehavior that needs to be addressed is it bullying maybe not probably not uh under the definition it's still wrong and it still needs to be fixed um but again instead of spending all of the time determining if it fits a narrow def of bullying in order to just label people in which you're going to probably end up taking the same steps anyway um now we're focused on how do we just fix it so that the power structure part I think it was even as recent as last year the law had changed where they had added teachers student bullying so is that sort of that still there that's a good question um I I'd want to go back and look at if it speaks specifically I don't recall it speaking specifically to CU it did speak specific yes I know I know yeah yeah which was a huge change right yeah um you know either way it again just like um I was saying on the behavior it's misconduct like if it's if it's wrong it's wrong um whether it fits the definition of bul I mean because we like well un need issues and if you identify a teacher as a bully like I mean we we would have a progressive discipline with you know a teaching component to that too yeah up to termination you know um depending on the circumstances again context matters you know uh a teacher doing something really wrong abuse of power with a student once is ific to me you know so um we would handle it accordingly well that's the other thing that last year the definition was it could have been a one-time event right and now it still could be okay still it still could be again abuse of power under the context it it still could be so it's not necessarily what was it repeatable yeah yeah it was like it's not it's not necessarily that's cuz that used to be the definition that is no longer the defition it simplifies things let me see if it's got the I know it has the bullying I feel like the purpose is just to diffuse the word bullying yeah well I think I don't disagree with that an yeah I I think it yeah because bullying means different things to different people well there were 50 state definitions of bul and so what is bullying and so they simplify it um and get away from focusing on labeling to focusing on fixing problems exactly which is better for everybody students parents you know uh administrators alike it doesn't mean mean that we're not still taking care of bullying right we don't care if the behavior is bullying we're addressing misbehavior we're addressing things that erode positive School climate whether it's bullying or some other Behavior that's not technically meeting the definition of bullying is kind of irrelevant you know it's fixing the the cultural issue educating kids is more important I like this move to when I again when I we mention this to our administrators usually legislative changes mean layering on a lot more paperwork and things that don't necessarily pay dividends this was well received because it allowed us to focus on what really matters more um as opposed to the label because at the label you still had to fix the problem it just took a lot longer to get to the label which everybody thought was like a death sentence and would avoid it all costs I going to say I'm not loving this wording of challenging Behavior has a definition but I guess nobody asked me so so the law says we have to adopt this whole cloth like uh the um suspension policy yeah pretty much I mean this is the law around bullying and it it says that you replace your existing you know 5131 911 wow so is this policy comes directly from the state and we don't get to change it even though it has cable letterhead on it I you know I can ask our attorney what sections here yeah um would be subject to adjustment or potential adjustment if you'd like me to I can have them review it and say is there anything in here that we can that play with that we're free to play with well I think maybe it would be better just to or do you have a statement from cave saying this is directly from the state I think that's a better starting point than having to pay for pay $300 an hour this against the policy you know we you we we'll reach out to uh that's what I was inwardly grappling and I you know I can like what does cave say I can certainly read the law again you know well interpretation or is it you know is this it like the suspension policy yeah well you're going to see in I this I I know follows the letter of the law as does the uh well it says a mandated policy ice one that we're looking at but you can see in the ice one I highlighted a couple of places where um I know that's not written into the law and it felt like a little bit of a liberty I'm going to point out there's a lot of Liberties in that one so op pointed out a couple of places where thought yeah that might be accurate but I don't know if it's necessary for a policy um so this I mean again this is a first reading you guys will have time to review it um but this speaks to I know this speaks well to the various elements of the law um this because I I reviewed this closely against the uh presentation that was given grounded in the law and it's step by step but we'll we'll go back to cave and ask them Carol if you make a note of that um thank you sure no so we'll come back to this one next month as well the non-discrimination policy this is for a third reading um I don't have any seconds right now no this is from all as well correct yeah this is the one where I know we updated Robin's information um if you recall we were progressing with a couple of policies that the revision to Title 9 just took totally off the table um so we don't have that one h no the title animals no this one we don't have the non-discrimination oh on paper yeah oh no I didn't it hasn't changed since the last one I can make a copy for no so this is going to third reading for implementation yeah and this is one that um Rebecca had reviewed okay we still have a title 9 coordinator even though Title 9 was kind of reverted back to the pretty what year it was that the original version before the final reading final um actually guessing I have it somewhere at home St you can have this yeah that's total legal legal language right oh yeah this is basically the discrimination laws so remind me Jeff that one just had to come into compliance with yeah I forget what was you remember Carol what was missing from that when we updated it the the 521 four months ago yeah I think it was was it updating the definitions oh you know what it was it wasn't lining up with the other policy yeah remember we had that question about how come sex discrimination is the only one in this andd the yeah so I think she updated this to include the every legal element yeah right here um and then that last one's kind of a catch all so remember we only had like sexual discrimination or something on there so this is every legal place where you can't discriminate against people status is a veteran Etc so which is like everything yeah you just can't discriminate against people based on St discriminating against people you know these on who they are maybe what they are say who they are but so it's it's basically all protected classes that's what Rebecca updated I was looking to see if this if there was like slash something but it's actually a Google Document which is really hard you know I could just drop in the um yeah okay the URL because this is where we have it you know bullying harassment discrimination and you click on it and it's like okay so I can't just put that in there can't just take the uh that will do this one yeah it's not going to be a live link anyway but at least yeah you know parents or whatever it's a little bit clearer than it was anybody have anything else to adding pass right so if you recall when we updated we put our two uh our policies are now one policy for the uh discipline conduct um as such we're resending the old ones taking now that we've adopted the new one that covers this otherwise they're redundant and in Conflict so um we have the the to uh what is the number of policy that can you remember that Carol is the new policy is it the name of the new policy too a suspension and exposion toess there that's oh there yeah okay y okay so we kept one of the numbers no this is different 5114 as opposed to 5144 and 5131 those get dropped because we adopted this policy in the last meeting the board okay the last policy we have is not our current policy um this this is um a cave policy for um managing the protection of undocumented students now as I was saying this is all grounded in law um this is consistent with the um information we we SE received from the state like I've been kind of bombarded with information in the last few weeks about this and how to handle these situations um this does put together in one document not just the policy but the regulation outlines the practices that are consistent with what the state shared and I had an immigration attorney who was in town send me a bunch of information um which was helpful and it all aligned basically is what I'm saying and so um so because of pler versus doe we can't impede the rights of any students to public education under pler versus do now might that change with this supreme court I don't know but that's current law um so so so here's kind of like what I know we were having a conversation on as we were starting up District Personnel should not treat students desparately for district residency determination based on their immigration status um regard they receive all School Services regardless of immigration status um they shall not inquire about immigration status I was asked by somebody with the power school breach could that have been somebody looking for immigration status the answer is no because we don't even ask that um if they were looking for it they'd be barking up the wrong tree so that's been practiced for how long that's that's just been the law so this goes back to 1982 for plyer versus d but they're not asking we we are prohibited from asking since 1982 we don't ask about your immigration status we ask about your residency do you live here right in Cheshire that's what all we are really able to ask and all we really care about because if you don't live here you don't go to school here um unless you're homeless then you might have a clean to go school and then there's that's the McKinley Bento act which is federal law and we have to abide by those rules so just to be clear you're saying that we do not collect uh imig legal legal status because of federal law yes because of that decision are you sure because I read that decision I did not get that I have not um I got the part about anyone who does not have legal status can attend school period sure right cannot we can you can't stop them but it didn't say anything about not knowing who they are you can't ask that you can't ask yeah we don't ask um right because that's I I'll track that down I'm just wondering I'm just wondering if it's state law or that because I'm sure that's that's not every state does not do that I will track that down to determine if that was a legal uh is there a direct legal reference to that or is that legal advice to avoid discrimination right but I will track that down yeah let me let me ask I was at some conference I'm not sure which one it was that they said that the public schools are not immigration agents so we're not supposed to investigate whether or not somebody legal resident or not IL legal resident we ask for birth certificates we ask if we don't have birth certificates we ask for passports we ask because it just seemed like this entire policy hinges on fer V do and fer V do does not speak about it's pler yeah sorry just to be sa was iter what I say Philadelphia Flyers pler pler voo I as far as I can tell it did not speak to the documentation part it just said yeah if you live in town and you have residency here you can attend yeah so if you just revie can be denied public education you cannot be right yeah right but if you just reviewed it I'll I'll defer to you in terms of the exact well I'm not a lawyer right so and I maybe missed maybe someone referenced something some Nuance something because that was the decision from 1982 right maybe there was some revision somewhere yeah so it's a fair question I'll look into it to see if that was our direct legal guidance or is it statutorily prohibited right because this is pretty far-reaching and almost depending on where you are could be in Conflict clear yeah clearly you know there's been a lot of discussion about this recently locally um nationally but you know certainly locally as well and I haven't heard of a single District that does ask so it makes me wonder like it it's probably statutory but I I can't definitively cite where so let me find out let me look and see it it could be wrong on that could have just been legal advisement because you know up say years and years yeah a few weeks ago no one really cared so so the case Court reason that illegal aliens and their children though not citizens of the United States or Texas are people quote in any ordinary sense of the term and therefore afforded 14th Amendment protections since the state law which was barring them from school severely disadvantaged the children of illegal aliens by denying the right to an education because Texas cannot prove that regulation was needed to serve a compelling State interest the court struck down the law right the right but um you know the the understand the specific question about inquiry about you know alien or uh you know citizenship status um whether that's statutorily prohibited or just strongly legally advised against doing right is it tradition versus yeah uh I forget what what's the uh the term tradition versus practice or um I I figure what it is right you just do something because we've always done it doesn't necessarily mean it was right to do sure whatever you know that got a great poster to show you afterward I I assume I assume they were asking for status because they were do demanding tuition fee for illegal yeah well I know you can't charge tuition to People based on their immigration status it says that here in this as well um so this is the the policy on that and um so then we ask if I recall right we ask for uh social security number for American students correct or no we don't we don't have that no we don't keep Security numbers cuz I know that was a concern that people so that so that wasn't in power school then I guess well I guess that's lucky yeah I don't so it's just date of birth address I don't know why name any District would need your social number um you know best just not to have it yeah we don't need it guess so yeah all right so like this is um that's so that like I highlighted a couple other places where it was more this is part of the policy that is not a legal requirement um but it's you know it was part of the the cave yeah I was going to ask about that next you know the encourage the increase enhance partnership with Community Based organizations I I don't think this is you know necessarily a bad thing but I don't know that it's it's our role um necess going to say I don't if that's your role to be yeah to be immigration Support Services for Families either um having been a former school counselor and principal I know that you know when you have a student and they're asking you for support service that's outside of the school's domain like you know counseling services or whatever well we don't endorse we can provide them information on a variety of you know resources but you know for us to actively try and educate a community is something that I'm a little uneasy with um because first of all I'm not an expert and we are not experts and so wouldn't that also make you an active participant I don't know if that make you an active participant but I'm I'm not an expert like you know if um if a student came to me about criminal defense for something you know I wouldn't be providing them all these legal resources like I wouldn't make it the district's job to be responsible providing you know criminal defense information um where is that section that's um a 5113 a at the bottom of the page p is that first page p511 oh it's this one first page so you know I well I I wouldn't say to any of our employees um that hey if you had a student who was very concerned about deportation or something you know and they family was asking about resources to point them in the direction of somebody who knows what the hell they're doing um yeah I would understand that they did why they did that um but to for us to provide resources for those actively facing deportation things like that to to make it our responsibility um it's encouraged um but I and I don't have a problem encouraging our people to support their the students in our schools but actually you know um I guess while you're at it the basis for well yeah I'll leave that one we don't have a lot of 9-year-olds who came here on their own you know no no no I the free free Services um I'm guessing that that wouldn't matter that would be which one is that state supported um uh bullet point2 lunch breakfast yeah lunch breakfast yeah I guess that would just be part of the attending school yeah that would fall under that umbrella yeah we're not going to discriminate uh based on their immigration status so you know um again looking at I don't know if it's your job the top part of that paragraph as well just Personnel show for the state or non loal local nonprofits immigration law oh this this part yeah oh not refer them not refer them the ice and then refer them to State local nonprofit a list of organization should be complied by a superintendent disseminated on school sites and District website yeah I'd say that whole paragraph yeah not a huge fan of that yeah you know I that puts you in the middle violating and I current revised federal law and we're going to do everything we can to protect kids I would never send a message otherwise but you know for us to play because this this is putting us in the middle right of a yeah Customs issue now again if I wouldn't reprimand somebody who did it either but I don't know that I'm going to make it our District's responsibility well well it's not about website reprimanding it's a about how far would ice take it if someone you know was going like this or sneaking kids out the back door or something like that right you let's say or you're referring to whatever are they interfering in a like a federal investigation and those types of crimes are yes pretty serious that's a felony or whatever you know you can't like sneak people out the back door right this isn't going that far but but it's putting on you to put stuff on our website refer people to uh nonprofits who do actively attempt to oh you interfere I don't I don't know that they do or they don't individually okay listen my father would say Humpty Dumpty was P right okay were I think if you went to someone else websites it would be pretty obvious I'm not going to blindly allege right cuz I don't know but I I don't think you're think you're crazy than not so yeah it's like that sort of language I was a little uneasy with um you know this is all of this stuff these this made sense to me yeah cuz yeah what is it is this the where you're checking warrants and not allowing people well you know what I I don't want for any child whether they're in um illegal immigrant or somebody who could have their parent could have given birth to them at Orton school I I it doesn't matter having law enforcement come in and forcibly take a student is not good for any kid in that room or adult by the way you know I mean if our adults can't handle it I don't think our kids could handle it it's really not appropriate if there's a Judicial warrant for that to occur then we would work together to find a way that is least disruptive to all parties involved do our basically what this administrators have they're aware of that they're they're trained to know the difference between that because wasn't there two types of warrants list judicial and administrative yeah um I can't say that I've ever seen a Judicial versus an administrative or so I think I'll probably ask what's that I said new world yeah I right like they didn't teach you that in superintendent school um or principal school so I think I'll ask um are it's a good good piece of advice I'll ask our uh the immigration people that have contacted me if they could show me the difference How will I know and and they say consult your attorney um and frankly you know I I happen to know a couple of immigration attorneys because of the work that we've done with the Korean student Orly Korean uh teacher Exchange program because you call your average school Law Firm they're not going to have a a Cadre of immigration attorneys on hand to answer your questions I mean I'm sure Floyd are I mean attorney could tell me the difference between an administrative and judicial warrant but you know I'd like to see it and maybe if there's an easy way to educate our people about it um so that's the policy the the um the uh so these are two different regulations here the regulation is how to enact the policy that's that next part so um they yeah so like this is a history lesson which is fine um I don't know what what my oh there's one of my comments I know it's I mean do is the feeling that we should be work we should be uh working on this pretty quickly because of what's happening it you know what this is one of those things where it kind of does doesn't matter if you adopt it it's out there for the world to see if you don't it's we're following federal and state laws like you know you got to follow the law well some of it is right yeah well we're going to so we can I guess I was asking yeah it's not is there something immediately that we need to be tending to I mean I think you could make an argument that there's an imminent but even if the policy isn't there we still have to follow the law I'm asking it in policy because Tim's gonna ask it yeah at the board and and he may if the board determines there a certain level of urgency then they could pass it a single single shot but um well you know see this this uh part two is already making a lot of assumptions yeah says as schools continue to meet their commitment to educating on documented students and lose their protected area status once again they are put in the middle they are assuming that in this I don't think it's an assumption I think that's the reality but it's an editorialization but and and it's it conflicts because you're under the law you're providing public education from uh pler voo right so you're not in the middle you're there but you know providing education the other part is yeah I don't want to be in caught in the middle of immigration issues but for me that's editorial like I so like that doesn't help me facilitate the policy at all and therefore I don't know that we need that um so this next part again corresponds with all legal guidance that I've seen so ice rolls up they go to the front of the school contact the district Point person which is me uh upon arrival well there hasn't been a lot of TR I have contact who the principal the principal would know to yes I've already directed them call me you know if anybody shows up um and then we would consult with our attorneys but so they know how to do this um and is Adam already astutely pointed out I'm not qualified for Warrant examination because I don't know Squad no I asked if you were I yeah take some time yeah um you have a special certificate for that perhaps yes add that to the and then you should be getting credal special certification providing uh immediate support direction to building administrators receiving I perfect that makes perfect sense to me um Consulting with the superintendent and board approved attorney on matters including not limited to the validity of warrants Etc makes perfect sense Consulting with and updating the superintendent on all matters well if I'm the person doing the stuff then yeah it's redundant but it could be a design if you know I'm not available or what excuse me the superintendent staff training uh by legal experts who are updated on immigration enforcement law I I have the first one like from a like an actual virtual training on Wednesday morning so um at that point we figure out you know who needs to be trained by who or what or whatever uh how to follow step steps in Enforcement Officers request to ENT enter includes training school bus drivers custodial staff you know we'll we'll get there um when we have a better sense of what we have to do um offer no your rights presentations to families and students where appropriate engage with families and look for opportunities to provide information and updates related to ice activity address family's fears and get ahead of misinformation a huge fan of that so now you you right like I don't know that that's our responsibility like you know what if there's and I I I am so sensitive to children who are here you know because their family was trying to make a better opportunity for them or whatever but but you know making the district responsible for providing presentations on it when I don't know anything about this you know like um I don't have a problem trying to connect them with people who do but so are we supposed to pay immigration attorneys to put on presentations is because our policy says we should I think that's where I was a little uneasy yeah I do want to address family's fears and get ahead of misinformation if any exists like yeah we're not we're not um holding you know inviting ice agents every day to sweep lunch I mean if they heard used be setting up roadblocks and raiding buses yeah like right like so like if that's something that's out there and we know that's that's true yeah I would address that misinformation because again this is going to Rattle has rattled a lot of people in our community whether they're they have legal immigration status or not um if they've lived in ches five generations I've heard from families that are like this makes me really UNC I don't want my child caught in the middle of something like this or observing their friend yanked out of class or whatever um and I don't want the kid yanked out of class like I you know I don't want them and had a lot of people have different feelings about immigration all over the place so you know I just didn't know that us talk about being put in the middle of it I feel like this puts us squarely in the middle of it um everything else here uh read to me as just good guidance you know don't resist a nice agents questions or requests cooperate with federal agents you know my dad was a federal agent not nice but like you know guys just women just trying to do their job um you can engage them doesn't mean you know again like we're opening the doors um but you have a conversation follow the legal advice um do again these are just this is procedural document you know who did you speak to what did you see um follow furo laws follow federal laws again if you have a Judicial warrant you have to follow that um like to me this is uh editorial and again like I I try in my role to be very politically neutral um and this is uh I just feel like some of the things in here are editorial um in that policy I think this is good advice should you know find to be part of our regulations good advice there's there's a the administrative uh although we haven't gotten there the administrative warrant piece yeah it tells the difference yeah between the two yeah yeah but I have never seen them like I don't know if they're does it say administra a warrant on you right like that would make he of a lot easier like administrative how do you know warrants are yellow with purple writing on and the other ones are blue with green writing I I could figure that out but like are they nuan differences how do we how do we know and so and it's good to know like it's this I thought all this was appropriate for our um you know regulation oh there's there's a second version sample two yeah oh it seems to be much shorter that we we didn't have oh wait this is yeah and I I was comfortable with sample one I thought it had a lot of detail yeah it had a lot of detail the thing in Sample to that I didn't like um like counselors and mental health support services are to be made available to students who are experiencing stress or anxiety period in my mind as a result of the repercussions of the presidential executive order regarding immigration like that again may be accurate but it's you know editorializing in a way that I didn't think was appropriate for the board no so so actually um if you guys are cool with sample one I'll delete sample two as part of what we're looking at our R 511 is regulation so we don't necessarily have any say in that anyway right that where so this policy I I would update the regulation though right this is all policy just you know that's what you guys highlighted I we seem to at least have some agreement does everything in the sample two is everything included in Sample one um yes it's it's written in Greater detail though I would say and that's why it's so long and I'm okay with the detail because this isn't something that happens all that often and if you were Consulting it um I think the detail would actually be helpful yeah cuz like uh number three like is a is a summary of like an entire page of procedure in uh sample one and then right down to the point where it gives you the the whole piece about the administrative warrant versus a Judicial warrant I I I just thought the sample one provided greater detail that would be helpful when this is an issue you don't deal with all the time hopefully yeah the only thing sample two number seven schools participating in student exchange visitor program must continue to comply it's common sense but got in the regulation on in part one CU I didn't see anything like that part one you're right this is all focused on Customs Enforcement and everything like that um but you're I don't know I don't yeah I don't I don't know if I'm ready to delete sample yet we can always come back to it obviously I mean we this isn't even this could go for a first reading if you wanted it to tonight doesn't have to again I have to follow the law anyway which is pretty much everything that's in the policy can it not go for a first reading but can we get the rest of the board well at the meeting this will be you could be reporting out on this and say you know I would encourage you to take a look at it um and give any feedback to Mark or members of the policy committee for me you have all the uh the changes marked um yeah so everything that we talked about or considered I updated on here so you know right down to I think we were talking about dropping this part of it and and then the rest is the regulation stuff which editorial so I guess no what I'm thinking is I would even like people's thoughts on the parts that we're looking to draw it'll show up from the policy if they look like so so well then maybe we should move it to a first reading then it can be posted CU if we don't then it won't be posted it's actually it's posted now so if we if you go on the website you go the policy committee it's there for the the whole agenda is there and this will be the agenda okay but it would be easier for them on the linked agenda just to click on it there instead having go to website if you want to do a first reading I like the first reading you know again it's law you got to do this anyway so I like the idea of putting it out there and you know let let the board weigh in on it it won't it won't become policy is that for three months anyway I did the strike through maybe if we just print this just print a copy for the board members we can give you seven copies you can pass them out when we do the policy report and then it's like right there in front of you like here's what we're considering we'll take any feedback for the next meeting you have any be perfect it's just easier than ask people go to the website check it or whatever like you know if there's something like this where you have all that information as well just it's it's short enough it's not like the bullying policy where it's many more pages so okay thank you sure all right could I just ask a quick question before we absolutely before we do motions so this flyer here yep this came from y okay should probably read that it's it's a lot of what you see in here it you know it just tells you how to handle it if they come you know um ask the agent if they have a Judicial one any warrant materials um note that they may have administrative Wars this is that's why when I say that this policy is consistent with the guidance we've had from the state with what we I mean like I said editorialize a bit more which we have addressed but with what I've had from immigration attorneys with two different law firms that have sent a fair amount of information out on this that's all cons consistent ice comes to the door you don't just let anybody in your building on every day so you have the right to say hey guys you know what can I help you with and in that process you call the superintendent who connects with the attorney and you say you know can I see any warrant they have determine if it's judicial or administrative if it's judicial find a way to support and cooperate with that that judicial warrant exactly what it says on the warrant if it's administrative then you don't here's a question so let's say they're monumentally stupid and then they decide to raid a school during the school day and someone pulls out a phone and takes a video of the event is that anything is that who's someone and like what are they doing with the video I don't know I'm assuming would be for personal consumption I don't know is that an act of something or is it just an act of defiance or an act of some places they transparency you know what I mean they tell you to in like a general like if you're being arrested and you recorded a police officer is that the same thing as when if it's Federal I don't know just because it's Federal if it's different than regular think you could do it you know it's that kind of TR that kind of speaks to is this a public or private location in a public location you'd have the right to do it you know well you know the argument was that schools aren't public locations during the day because we don't just let anybody wander through the school right you know if you're practices just anybody can come to school grounds during the day outside then that's more of a public place but we don't let people come to the playground in the middle of recess right does that um does that um private protection extend to our school buses we don't let anybody just anybody get on a bus right so it so it does extend public location yeah the bus stop that's a public location right right but in order for a bus to be boarded boarded they would have to show the warrant right and the bus driver would have to know well most of our are they required to know like yeah most of our bus drivers have limited uh legal training so they have to talk to Luther about how to yeah I mean I don't know let's let's call it you know whatever theoretical possibility sounds like a problem for that what sounds like a problem for us T better fix it I don't it is a dco issue but CPS issue too so just want to put those issues out there where where is that private speak about you know going back to the whole conversation of of you know administrators using their times and ways that support the educational experience for kids me training bus drivers about judicial warrants um I'm not pretty sure that's not supporting most of our students in their academic success but it's me realizing anyway so so we have motions uh for readings so we going to move that to a first reading or not what do you think yeah let's move along okay have a couple more and again it's all the law anyway yeah and do you want to move or shall I um are we doing it all together um we usually separate first readings and third do the first you choing at the big oh okay I'll second you you all right sure um move that uh policy uh 5131 81 electronic devices 5131 911 bullying that's interesting that they're the same almost the same number um and uh 51113 undocumented students uh be moved for a first reading second yes all in favor unanimous um let's see uh move that uh policy 0521 non-discrimination be moved for a third reading second favor I'm just assuming we have no discussion on this you know I'm going through yeah okay well didn't we just have yeah we had much discuss discussion yeah right but you know one we going to have to change the name to school climate instead of that's how they yeah okay I'll fix the motion so okay thank you we had needed a motion to resend as well right yes yes um move that uh 5144 discipline and 5131 conduct including appendix um be rescinded um and replace do we have to do a replace or well the other one already exists so to be so to be resed second all in favor move to a journ second all in favor we are
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all right good evening everybody thank you for joining uh our Citywide PTO uh meeting this month sorry we did not meet last month some stuff came up for a lot of people and it just was quiet anyway so we we uh we skipped in the winter um if you can real quick just drop your name in the chat as usual just so we have a log as to who is here um other than that I sent out the meeting minutes earlier today hopefully you guys had a chance to review them from our that would have been our December meeting um if anybody took a look at them I'm asking for a motion to approve those minutes please I see I see you waving Cheryl right thank you Cheryl so that's a motion I got a second anybody second second who that was is that Maggie yes all perfect thank you all right so motions approved for that um treasury report um so I'm still acting treasur um for anybody that does not know we have a vacancy at the treasurer position so if anybody is interested in joining our Citywide board please please please we are still looking um as of right now we have $571 73 in the account we did get charged our Zoom our Zoom bill which was $170 for the year that was on January 9th and and as of this year so far the school year we have received dues from AIS King Street milridge Shelter Rock Broadview Westside and DHS so anybody who's on this call I don't think there's anybody here that's not in that group um but if you have not paid your dues they're $25 um covers the year and I sent out period if I can resend it if you need just send an email to Citywide for an invoice for that just for your financial records chy I'm sorry who was after Shelter Rock for dues paid yeah Shelter Rock Broadview cool wests side and DHS sorry is taking minutes tonight for uh Jess is double dipping so she's she's holding down the fort while her husband's away um all right so that brings us to school reports um anybody has a report they'd like to give real quick I ask that you go ahead unmute and give us an update as to what's going on in your school hi all right how you doing good um so we have the Scholastic Book Fair coming up um my favorite person dance on Friday read aloud for second grade on Thursday um we have uh you know we're going to have an end of year event of of course and um some things happening in the spring but nothing's been really pinned down yet awesome cool cool thank you good things at a all right um so everyone can hear me right yep okay uh so for PTO for penr we got this week um tomorrow we have our meeting for the month then Friday we have our school store um not that it's PTO related but Thursday for the 100 days they're doing 80 seed clothing or attire for the 100 days of school then we have um coming up in March we have our anti-bullying presentation by the hat tricks and then we have our family game uh attendant attend the one of the Hat Tricks games okay very nice yeah sorry about that um uh we have our hatrick game then we have um coming in up in April the Monday before April we have a planetarium inhouse field trip for all of our students so we have I'm new to this um but we've had parents say that this is one of the greatest things ever so we got that coming in for our kids um and we got Valentine's we're going to do a little Valentine's treat for the kids on the on the 14th and that's what we got going on so far for p awesome thank you thank you you can I go for wests side absolutely okay so for West Side um on Friday had a kindness night where kind work and did stations for our students and families about kindness um students actually created a shirt that is Westside choose kindness that we're selling and the proceeds from it we are our teacher on in the you're pole are next Wednesday the twentine day we are the teach tree a bag of like candy and water um we have our fund on February 22nd and then for this week's PTO we have the Career Academy toing at our school awesome thank you hi there Melissa from King Street um our school uh worked with spice City on their opening night so we had our families go out to support them so it was a great little fundraiser for us they're a great um company to work with um and we had our trpy fundraiser that helps us with our um fifth grade uh end of year stuff so we allocate that stuff um our fifth graders are going to have their tall and small this week or um sorry this month coming up so our fifth grade parents are working really hard on that and then um we have Buffalo Wild Wings as well this month so we thought good for the Super Bowl get some wings in there um um and they they're actually great they go like all day they go from 12 till 10 at night so if anyone's looking for something um that's a good one get breakfast lunch and munchies at at night um and then our kindergarten first and second is doing an 80s for our 100th day and our third grade is still doing their old person because they love it so much so um that's what we've got going on very thank you thank you I can go DHS this is Gina um we have our meeting next Monday and we have some guidance counselors coming out to do a schoolo g presentation and we're I think we're do a college night at the meeting also so that's our meeting next Monday we are starting to plan teacher appreciation we're not sure if we're going to do breakfast or lunch um and May um and we're trying to decide how we're going to support our our um our seniors typically we do like a cup and we stuff it with like random things that they end up trashing so we're trying to do something that they won't they'll appreciate more so we're looking into possibly contributing to their field chip we're going to contribute to their prom um so we're trying to figure out how to best use our funds that support the most number of kids um and that's that's basically what we're working on right now cool thank you I'll go for Shelter Rock all right um last month right before winter break we were able to do holiday cookies so we were able to give every student in the school a chocolate chip cookie before they went on break to kind of do with their holiday movie and stuff we also just did our hattick fundraiser a couple weeks ago uh we're currently working on our yearbook cover contest so February is where all the teachers get to vote on which uh illustration they like the best from the students and coming up we also have our carnations for Valentine's Day and we will be hosting a bake sale at our school's talent show in March a all right is there anyone else I thought I saw somebody here from Broadview but maybe I didn't maybe I didn't all right anybody else one's going twice sh all right okay so then I guess um at this point um I don't I don't have anything other than vacancies Tim do we have anything no no okay um so then I guess we will turn it over to Dr casmiro for a budget presentation about the school budget hi good evening good evening um I'd like to introduce um Mr Michael Weaver Mike is our CFO our new CFO for the for D Republic schools and so if he had to had a chance to meet him um he's been doing a phenomenal job in his first stent as a school CFO although he's had many stints before that uh in a different uh in different Arenas um but he's done a great job for us so far this year and helped us really pull our budget together and and help us um do some projections that are that are greatly needed so um he is with me tonight and as I told uh Tim he's going to keep me honest with my numbers if I go off of course okay um so I wanted to just um briefly talk a little bit about the last time that we were together uh we talked about um doing a little bit of a poll with the parents to understand their budget priorities so that we would have that in mind as we're building the budget but also um you know should we need to uh make adjustments to the budget we understand what the what the parent priorities are so just kind of very briefly before I get into the full presentation I'll just pull up um a slide which shows our survey results and we had about 600 or so let give one second 600 or so parents respond and they selected their top three priorities um and the top three were supporting Sports the Arts and extra curcular activities um increasing safety measures in making class size is smaller so really not a shock that the the top three were those um they seem to be perennial favorites when we do ask this question um the fourth one down uh was upgrading school facilities creating new programs for students and enhancing technology class and resources um so these were sort of uh in the middle here um of equal weight and then of course the big priorities are supporting Sports Arts extracurricular activities uh and increasing safety measures in the district so uh we take uh the parental polls very seriously we also um did some polling for staff that we're taking a look at now internally to see what their budget priorities are um class sizes was was one um the the poll is still out there but um making sure that we have adequate Staffing and supports for kids um and uh safety and facilities are were at the top of those as well and resources I'm GNA zoom out of there for a second and I'll pull up another presentation which is our our budget second there all right does that look okay on your end everyone yep okay good okay so we were um very lucky that our board passed our uh the first superintendent budget unanimously it is now the board's budget uh we met and did a workshop on um January 21st and the Board of Education cast our budget um on that that following Wednesday and uh we spent time digging into our district priorities the major drivers and unpacking some of the bigger needs that um that we've been facing in the last couple years last year and this year as well um that that we came to the board with in terms of our budget meeing uh moving forward so um if you take a look these are our strategic plan of District priorities um these are our buckets if you will of focus uh and where we put a lot of our efforts and then therefore also uh alignment with our budgets so teaching and learning um providing good quality staff development um really important the talent acquisition this is playing uh true ever more so this year than than before with Recruitment and Retention uh improving School climate and that deals with the teaching and learning environment also safety and the emotional growth and Civic responsibilities of um students families um Etc so that making sure that our schools uh are good places to go to school and also good places to be if you are working there um meaningful collaboration so engagement with families um and all stakeholders and then resource allocation using our um using our our budgeted uh our fiscal resources in a financially responsible manner so the budget process this year was a opportunity for a fresh start this was um Mike Weaver's first budget build and my first budget build from the ground up um we put a few things in that were a little bit different this year um there is a lot of effort and attention um put into to meeting with every single department and every single School leader so that we really had an understanding of their needs um I think in the last couple of years um you know because we've had financial difficulties um we've just sort of rolled forward if you had it last year you're lucky to keep it and that was sort of the plan that we used so this year was a real fine tooth comb to make sure that every single uh School leader and Department leader had an opportunity to really discuss uh what was happening in their building but also the the needs not so much wants we're not quite the place where we could list out all the wants but the things that we really need to be a high functioning School District um we spent a lot of time looking at operational efficiencies um prioritizing critical need areas we've had several hot spots this year um over the course of the year as a result of the um the reductions from the prior year and in many cases we realized that we were functioning below optimal levels which was actually costing us a little bit of money time and frustration which was wearing on a lot of our climate and culture this year and we'll talk a little bit more about that further in um understanding reasonable year-to-year growth that we need to catch up for a decade of underfunding so um while the ask this year was large it really is just an accumulation of what we've needed all along that has come to a head um similar to the way it did similar to the way that it was last year um and then with the way that we're positioning the budget this year um creating budgets by location uh which is a little bit different than how we've did it in the past there creates a greater sense of transparency on how each department each school um each bucket if you will um how they are spending uh their money and and comparing U the budgets to actuals and then using that as a solid basis for next year's budgeting um and so while that seat May basic there were some pieces missing in in our ability to to um to do accurate projections and so I think uh with Mike's expertise in the way that he built the budget and the way that we're moving forward um on the back end of things it'll allow us to do have cleaner more transparent projections for the future which allows us to articulate our need and engage in Greater dialogue uh with the city so here's our district profiles for those who are on the call um most are familiar with this we have two Early Childhood centers 13 elementary schools three middle schools one very large high school soon to be two sites and two alternative programs our multilangual learner number is at 38% so not only are we the highest number across the state but we are the highest percentage wise in the state so we have the most amount of multilingual Learners in the state of Connecticut we are at the top of that list um similarly our numbers are on the rise for economic Ally disadvantaged and students with disabilities has also increased just a tad to um just a little over 15% we were hovering around 14 so we've have some some driving needs here driving needs here and this has been a constant uh driving needs with our multi-lingual Learners uh and the services that they need to be successful our enrollment no surprise that were seem to be on the uptick this is a little bit of an off year because of the kindergarten age and the cut off so we're down about 200 or so plus students um so we're looking to see how this affects us this year when students come back to reenroll for the 25 26 school year we think will be around this number but that is uh yet to be seen and students are just starting to enroll now again just a quick chart of our multilingual Learners as you can see in 2425 we've topped the chart at 4541 um with this uh projection holding true we anticipate being at 4,630 give or take and with special education we are at 1756 this year and projected to be close to 1,800 um some of those projections are made based on students that we know that will be coming into the district so key issues for our budget um we're at the basic level meeting contractual obligations and cost of living recruiting and retaining staff restoring the eliminated positions from the 2425 budget um and not all of them but uh at least about half of them or so that we need back um moving arpa positions back into the general fund so the city was um did a great job of um getting us securing us about $7.5 million to use for a onetime funds for the for the school system if you recall um city of danber received about 12 million and 7.5 of that came directly to us and then the remaining funds um most of it indirectly also uh came back to the school districts in terms of capital uh improvements um as everybody knows we are in the process of opening up DHS West which we're very excited about but to open up that campus it needs to be fully staffed and so supporting the enrollment needs for the high school and and the operational staff needed to operate another satellite campus is is included in here and it's a major driver for the for the budget for next year um transportation as you can imagine uh when moving an additional 1400 kids uh separating them out to another campus creates uh Transportation needs moving across the city in different ways affecting our tier Transportation plan um so we are approximating almost needing 28 or so buses um it could be less we're working on some of that now uh to run across the district for the transportation um ensuring Safety and Security as this is one of the of our parents primary concerns uh it is for us as well so there are some in um increases around the security components um and some of this also has to do with our staffing model um as I mentioned before our sped numbers are on the Rise um and so to are the tuitions our out estate tuitions and out of District placements uh for the most part the FED um special education is a very hot topic IC at the state level there's a lot of legislation uh being posed around this because it is such a a rapidly growing cost uh for districts and there's not a lot of controls placed around that and so that's something that um many districts are hoping we get some relief from down the road but right now it's very much a part of our budget for next year so I want to talk a little bit about remaining competitive so uh Danberry you know couple few of our contracts are competitive from a salary standpoint um however because we have our enrollment is the way it has been and our staffing levels have not kept up in a way that they needed to the conditions in Danberry teaching in Danberry the conditions of working here if you're an administrator if you're a teacher are a little bit more challenging than they are in some of our surrounding districts in addition to that our surrounding districts and districts in our County are raising the rate of pay at a faster rate than Danbury has been so while we've been working hard to keep up with those contracts we are competing um with surrounding districts and in our County for the same people but at a lower rate and so this is causing um us to have a very difficult time attracting and an even harder time retaining one of the greatest examples of this and it's something that again is a driver in this budget uh relates to our par Educators our par Educators work with um special needs students they work with students who need academic intervention they work with students who may need one-on-one support they need they work um in a variety of capacities uh supporting the needs of students in working in classrooms um teachers cannot do their jobs without them administrators cannot do their jobs without them they are absolutely essential um some of our uh parent Educators service our multilingual learning Learners and in many cases when we cannot find an a bilingual teacher our par educators are are helping us to fill some of those language service needs by providing native language support in the classroom so between students needing Intervention which is a mandate which uh students needing their second language learner Services mandate and special education services which is iip driven um all of the parent Educators and the work that they do is super critical iCal to the functioning our school district um so you're saying well what's what's the problem with the par Educators well right now I believe the starting salary for our par Educators is around $16 an hour and if you go to surrounding districts they're in the 20s some are even higher than that um so it makes it very difficult for us to attract people to come to our district uh and to retain them uh for the future and so we have about between around 40 to 50 opening right now um with our par Educators we spend a lot of time trying to fill those holes and making sure that we're meeting all of our obligations so it's a very serious situation when we can't fill those positions um so much so that we legally we still have to fill certain positions we have to go and use agencies to backfill these positions the agencies come at a very high premium um making it not a cost-effective solution to to supporting this this issue um so one of our big drivers is going to be to um right siize our par educator uh our par educator contract to ensure that we remain competitive um safety Advocates we have a similar situation with safety Advocates and uh right now I I don't remember how many we're at now because it changes daily we're also using an agency to staff a good number of our safety Advocates because we cannot attract or retain SA advocates for the same reason so we do have an ask in there around uh supporting uh supporting the benefits and contracts uh in there as well so that we make our contracts more attractive um so as I mentioned before urban districts face greater challenges so class size learner profiles having less support in the classroom make teaching in Danbury a little bit more challenging um than our than our neighbors than teaching in our neighborhood schools I'm sorry our neighbors uh you know surrounding in the greater Danberry area so uh we need to make sure that in order to fill persistent vacancies in order to remain competitive and also to make sure that our kids are getting the very best teachers um that we can afford we need to take a good look at some of our contracts and make sure that we're staying competitive we found out very quickly this year um how badly the losing 68 positions in our budget last year has affected us um we are all feeling the effects of not having that staff across the buildings the schools and all the Departments um we talked a lot about how the operational inefficiency that is happening this year actually can cost money down the road so um we have several key positions um when we talk about the driver that is called the restore driver where we're looking to restore 29 of the 68 positions that we lost last year back into this budget to bring us a little bit closer uh than where we were this year so this has been a very challenging year Staffing wise um you know the other thing that we talked about is our ability to staff certain positions so when you cannot have enough staff in a classroom sometimes in certain cases um which means we're not able to support certain students here in District which results in outplacement um outplacement uh tuitions which are extremely expensive and so again not having the right staff and not being able to maintain staff creates a a bigger costlier condition down the road in addition and someday it's almost its own presentation but when you have for example um really good intervention systems and students are um receiving really robust intervention it prevents special education costs down the road and there's a lot of research behind that um but again that's like a whole another layer of of presentation but there's a lot of research on the cost of prevention as I mentioned we're looking to restore eliminated positions we lost 68 last year in the budget um while that was not highly publicized um because they were not physical losses we only had two physical uh two staff members who physically lost their job because we could not find them another opening in the district but we lost 68 positions out of of our budget that included teachers coaches support staff counselors media Specialists operation staff and administrators um and so our inability to attract and retrain current staff does cause instructional operational challenges um and we've had a big issue this year with morale in the building as a result of that so I've listened and heard to many of our our uh staff members and our administrators across the district and this is a great concern uh which is why that was played such a prominent role budget for next year I'd like to give everybody uh a second to take a look at this slide this is an example of how Danberry Compares very basically to a school that is very similar it's one student different difference this is a Danbury Elementary School this is one of our real schools uh not to be named and this is a Norwalk elementary school of 465 in Danberry our staffing model looks like this one princip principal one assistant principal and that's only if you're at the larger School the rest of our elementary schools do not have assistant principles uh one secretary one student support specialist one srbi par professional one social worker and a point8 psychologist if you were to go over to Norwalk one principal one assistant principal one dean of students that are that are certified admins not serving as a teacher one principal secretary one administrative assistant in addition to that secretary one and a half reading Improvement teachers or Specialists two math Improvement teachers or Specialists two literacy coaches assigned to the school one math coach assigned to the school one gifted and talented teacher Four srbi PA professionals those are people delivering explicit intervention in small groups kindergarten pair of Professionals in every classroom those are extra hands in the classroom and one social worker one school counselor and a halftime school psychologist off of that one school so this is the this is the difference with what we're doing in danburry compared to typical school we compare ourselves often to Norwalk because we are very close in size and demographics and so this is a stark contrast and so again while our budget um this year is a large ask we're only trying to get to the place where we reach minimum levels of the support that we need to be successful um we had some questions around how we are spending our arpa funds that the district that the city allocated to us so um we had we were allocated $7 A5 million dollar so last year given our funding cliff and our budget um we offset this year technology needs the replacement technology and infrastructure student and teacher devices so those are our refreshment Cycles since we're one one: one excuse me um supplement for our DHS West Campus to help us make our transition supplemental for AIS magnet school for some of the tuition dollars that have been lost as a result of some tuition changes uh and then this is the staff um at that DHS needed this year to meet their enrollment needs so this had to be offset in onetime funding which also needs to to be recouped um as far as the existing staff we had our media specialist if you paid attention to the budget last year you know that the media Specialists and the instructional coaches were on the elimination block and um the one-time funding allowed us to hold on to them for this year um so there's $2.2 million there and then we had some uh money set aside for student supplies and also the fees incurred for the audit um that we had to we had several audits over the maybe the last two years and we needed outside support um for those audits because we did not have the Staffing internally to keep up with those so here's just a visual depiction of the big buckets of our budget drivers okay so on the right hand side the contractual increases are about 4,000 4 million 500 restoration of positions eliminated from the last year's budget is about 3 two um all other new positions which I'll go over uh in this budget um 1.1 million some of those are sped and multilanguage learner and also uh positions that are needed um departmentally um the competitive par Staffing model 4.9 million that includes not just the increasing of the salary to to attract and retain but also to add some pair of professionals at the elementary level in our uh K and one class CL K1 and two where our most vulnerable Learners are um who need intervention early on to prevent um uh problems down the road um special education increases in costs are 2.8 multilanguage learner needs are 1.1 benefits for positions above 4.4 and I'm sorry we had an increase was it 19% increase 19 19% increase in the cost of our Healthcare uh and then it improvements in security 233 3,000 normally that would be much higher um but we offset that in the arpa funds this year so normally that number would be a lot bigger and then just a accumulation of other incremental um increases across many smaller categories uh that total 1.8 and we have those coming up here so I'll try to move along a little bit more quickly um our total budget request for this school year for next year 25 26 was 4,946 th000 it's an increase of almost $34.5 million which is a 21 and a half% increase uh this is just a a slide depiction going moving left to right it's another way to visualize the as broken down by buckets and category Types on the left and then the drivers going across the top in blue so that you can see where those uh those buckets and drivers kind of meet up on the right is the total increase and at the bottom is the total budget just another way to look at the budget visually that some people prefer to look at it this way um I'll try to move through these slides because this was part of the budget Workshop so we spent time in detail we don't have this as much time tonight but you can see uh these are the staff associated with theem of Danberry and basically you know everything from custodians to safety Advocates uh refu removal Transportation natural gas electric uh the teachers that are needed to go over there uh the nurses the uh secretaries the the school resource officer all of those are are needed in a building just like they are um that we have at DB high school but at a little bit of a smaller scale um the projected enrollment for next year is about 800 students the building is ready for 1,400 um but we're going to staff it for 800 to do two things one U reduce some of the cost of Staffing in the first year that we there um but also to to allow our 12th graders to remain on campus uh where their they'll finish out their time so that was a little bit of a win-win strategy heading into next year so U our contractual obligations and increases so when you roll up and adjust for um the different contracts that we have across all salaries and groups it's about $4.5 million um the Restorations of our instructional coaches backfilling of the assistant superintendent for teaching and learning which is my former job for which um I'm currently doing and that's also broken up amongst some other folks on my team as well um that needs to be filled to provide adequate uh support um and to also uh make sure that we're pursuing grants to make sure that we're pursuing um Innovation and we continue on the path that that we are on it's a very important job um our 13 media Specialists two Elementary assistant principles uh one security coordinator very important um three administrative supports in offices that do not have them and um because of the budget cuts last year and were desperately needed that um are important and our three SC up coaches that were eliminated and are being housed in Grants this year that will be coming back online next year uh new positions non Academy sped or MLL so uh with the number of staff that we're going to be hiring next year um and through this budget um and also with the high rate of turnover and the number of persistent vacancies that we're experiencing we are going to invest in a a recruiter um additionally um an HR benefit specialist we have over a $30 million uh benefits uh outfit here and we have one person no secretary no support so the that's the operational efficiency component that we were talking about earlier um that we need to be able to make sure that we're able to um to conduct business in the way that we need to and service not just the students but our staff as well um senior accountant uh this was sorely needed we've been through multiple audits at this point we're paying top dollar for agency support and this is a position that we should have in here anyways in our finance department um for student support special specialist to support our largest elementary schools three teachers uh this is a number elementary teachers this is the number that fluctuates uh from the time that we project the budget in starting in November December um the number of teachers that we need can change at the time that we put put the budget together we had about three set aside the number can go up to three four five six seven depending on enrollment and shifts um and so we keep a close eye on that but we have three as a placeholder in here for now um and uh our AIS uh Magnet School needs uh some recruiting we are losing some of our tuition dollars and reimbursements from the state because our numbers are not quite where they need to be um so we going to put a little bit of money behind um our recruitment uh of students in surrounding towns so that uh we can hopefully regain that money multiple times over uh in the form of tuition and grants and then those are the benefits for those positions um as I already mentioned before this is the uh par educator driver so an increase in the par educator salary floor and increasing the number of par Educators and the associated benefits special education we we are in need of um at least two more special education teachers a social worker a language speech and language pathologist those are the benefits uh related to those there's an increase in some of our contractual services that we engage in um out of District to ions are up $1.6 million so we've incurred a lot last year so this is the projection heading into this year uh next year I should say sped sped supplies and equipment and then increase in transportation costs and runs um as far as our multilangual Learners we have a variety of uh support that they're going to need uh bilingual teachers par Educators uh we need more leadership department head as we're growing and um school aison we lost those last year and it's position that every single principal is dying to get back because they helped support the home to School connections um they also helped us to um reduce our chronic absenteeism numbers very important and then these are associated benefits Health dental life workman's comp and then we had a a little bit of an offset with unemployment compensation it in security this is a number that normally is quite large we moved some of this to Grants and then the majority of it will be spent this year using um using arpa funds onetime funds and then a list of other if you will building repairs and maintenance Transportation adjustments uh we have an increase in the number of homeless students in the district um some whenever our transportation goes up um it also goes up we pay for the non pubs as well um so that number has going up a little bit and then alarms and infrastructure utility staff development and some small miscellaneous very small dollar amounts that add up 299,000 if you look proportionately across the increases for the 34.4 6 you can see where the preponderance of money uh is where the drivers are so the cies represent 29% new positions around 3% benefits at 133% sped at 8.1 the competitive par Staffing model at 14 contractual incre increases around 13 and Restorations around 10 and in our total budget of 194 464 again it's 21% increase over 5.2% is dedic dedicated to the academy if we had our full budget last year at 181 um all positions which we needed um the increase over the original 181 would have only been about 7.2% uh which would be in the ball Park of surrounding districts um and school systems similar to ours so with that I will take a few Q&A from the from the group and I will stop sharing for a few I know that was a lot I think my only question is um is there a way to see this whole budget like if I tomorrow when we talk about it with my school or you know I could talk to the principal see if there's anything that we could do is there a way to like get this budget to share with her absolutely so the budget will be available I think I believe Ken this is will have a recording for for to share correct at the end of this thank you so much and Cara this is Mike a version of this presentation is on our website currently that's right thank you anyone else hello hi hi I just want to say thank you for such a thorough presentation and making the um information so accessible to all of us I'm I really think that this is a very clear perspective on where we are as a district and and I appreciate your Clarity and Leadership um my question is pretty simple um how what what do you recommend is the best way for us um as parents to help um with this process right well um just by being present tonight that's a great start being able to articulate you know the why um sometimes when you know in town you know we recognize a 21% increase you know could have a serious effect on on folks um and while we may not get all of that we that we need I think it's important to keep dialogue open um between and amongst the parents about about the why um staying active in the PTO coming to all of things like this where we're having dialogue where our board members can hear um what your concerns are um you know our board uh board meetings are sometimes they're really well attended and sometimes not so much um but I know that our board appreciates hearing from parents particularly on these issues it allows them and me um to know where to press on these budget issues and and where to where to be more vocal um and it also allows us to um you know when it comes time to make decisions hard decisions we kind of know what where the parents stand on these things of course um our budget is gets presented um to City Hall in April and there's a couple of open sessions that will come up and certainly if you're a taxpayer and uh you want to start to talk about that and uh you know bring your friends that's always certainly welcome the more that we can educate uh people from a point of transparency understanding and having the details um I think the the greater chance we have of kind of building that Coalition of understanding about you know why the budget is as high as it is and why we need to kind of keep keep at it you know the fear um you know I have is you know there's a it's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation when you present a budget this big um and this high and this you know with all the numbers and all the details um but I think it's really important that parents know what they're getting and what they're not getting uh for their tax dollars and I think um you know I think it's important that City hears from our parents in a positive way um I do feel good that there's an open dialogue and that the city has an open ear towards this and there's a a commitment to improving our school system I know our uh many of the folks who are in the highest levels of offices there have children in our school system as well uh which is also very helpful so um you know I think that there's a good will there but I think the more that they hear from parents um and people who are directly affected and their children are directly affected by the services we're able to provide or not to provide uh the better thanks for your support so I'll jump in um that one slide that you posted there the side by side with us in and Norwalk a typical school to me was a very powerful slide that was um not something I've seen before in any budget presentation and a little terrifying quite frankly um but okay so just like random question teacher pay scales probably vary dep I mean a first year teacher is not making what a 25e teacher so when you budget how does that work how does that factor in like are you budgeting like an average are you budgeting like you know yeah so in the last it's a great question so um maybe about 10 years ago we used to budget you know like $70,000 all in you know 50,000 starting salary and then 20,000 in budget in a in a benefits um but we've been hiring our actuals in terms of our hiring have been much higher because the competition for staff is is much greater um there was a time when if you were a a a teacher and you were teaching for 10 or 15 years and you tried to move to another District um you'd have a really hard time because nobody wanted to pay top step for a teacher with experience to come into their District everybody was looking for that first year teacher um the game has completely changed and the we are now constantly looking at staff members with 10 12 13 years experience um particularly if they are in math or science or they're bilingual teacher or they have a very skilled position like a coach um we are paying upwards of you know I think we budget in now for was it 85 that we budget all in um because this we're just hiring at at that rate anyway so um it was a false sense to say you know budget at that lower number because we're like I said we have a lot of persistent vacancies on top of this and the stem math uh areas chemistry bio very hard to fill because of certification um so we really do need to do something to attract um greater otherwise our you know the kids are the ones who pay pay the price you know we have high places where we have a lot of substitute teachers coming and going because we've got vacancies and people leave it's very disruptive to students academics particularly at the secondary level could be detrimental um and then just car say do we have like a grant writer like a like is that like a designated position or is that like a like a like a bucket list something that we'd love right yes um I would love to get a grant writer at some point um but that's what an assistant superintendent I I did all the grants but I'm still doing all the grants uh I say all the grants but a good number of Grants our assistant superintendent Kelly trus has quite a few grants um in her area in special education and for homelessness and for uh many things and me does a lot of Grants uh for families she's very prolific grant grant writer um but but there's about three of us who who do those and uh it's extraordinarily timec consuming and if and there's ability to pursue more if you have the room to do that um but again that assisted soup I did a lot of of that work in that role and I'm still doing it and if we want to get better at some things we're going to have to backfill some of these positions that are key that's that operational efficiency piece um we talk about some point when you cut below the belt and it's just it's not working we could rework the high school uh writing curriculum to teach them to write yeah we can try it Chrissy I'm willing to try anything at this point well thank you I appreciate it okay sure I have a quick question um along those same lines about the grants because I know that um possibly it had come through for King Street to have the walls put up in the schools as part of the gr I don't know if you know any information about that some of our parents have been asking yeah I think where that is and where where we're moving and what's going on with that because walls would be wonderful to help a lot of our kids of course so so um as I mentioned before um when the city received an extra allocation of 12 million they started to to put that towards some of the priorities on a capital Improvement list they Ellsworth Avenue School I believe was part of that there's a leaky roof um there was a few other projects in there that were super important the next project that's on the list that there's a lot of attention on right now is the King Street project and I know um our city leaders and our delegates are working hard to secure something through legislative funding um and so they're asking they you know reached out to us and asked us lots of questions to help them uh with some things that they're trying to work on to get that project underway so I do know that they're working on it I know that it's a very important project not just to us but to them as well they recognize the need so that's it's on the list and it's high up there thank you you're welcome just have one other quick question if that's all right sure I noticed that um the questions the conversation naturally went towards grants which makes me think about um the revenue side of the budget um you know we spent a lot of time talking about the expenditures and certainly there's a lot to talk about there and and I think uh my personal opinion is everything you're asking for is um reasonable and probably not enough definitely not enough um is there a way for us I I think that's a Big Driver for a lot of parents in the community as well to understand where do the revenues come from for the school district I know in the past there's been quite a bit of conversation about how much of the school district's budgets financed specifically from tax levy versus grants versus um you know other you know other opportunities that they have there as well so where can we find information about that to help support uh your proposal sure so we have uh when the we're in the process of developing what we call the budget book the big budget book and that's what goes over to the city where it's kind of the complete package of everything um you know for example our largest grant that we receive is the alliance Grant and so that's a $30 million Grant that's going to go up about $5 million next year but it's packed with staff and so some of that increase which would be I don't know if you'd call it Revenue but but some of that increase will will get eaten up with contractual obligations just with the amount of staff that we have in the grant so we'll have some a little bit of of room in there and some relief um but we won't really you know until we kind of get the whole landscape we'll know what um what tolerance our grants can have as well as anything in in the general fund so um I would say we have 30 million 3560 million probably about $60 million of of what we do comes from about grants but we but um that's all going to be laid out in a in a larger package um what we have out there right now is kind of the the big presentation that we that we have this book here will turn into you know probably like a two-inch binder with all of that information we could certainly get that out to everybody to take a look at that'll be posted on the website as well that slide with Norwalk was as Chrissy mentioned like extremely compelling and it makes me wonder um what does the revenue side of their budget look like relative to danur how much of that is is funded through uh through the tax base um versus through grants versus through others and then how do their mill rate compare as well that might be a question better asked to the city council um but um I'm just trying to uh you know get as much information as possible no it's a great question it's a great question and and Kevin too I'll just jump in um I don't know if you've ever heard of Erica Haynes with the school uh Connecticut school Finance she has like a lot of information too on that that actually Compares us to other districts um and yeah definitely I think there's some for improvement there too so Chrissy I was just going to going to mention that too it's school state St finance.
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in room 229 and a public notice will be posted on the legislator's website I'd like to take this time to remind our testifiers that due to time restrictions on our hearings we will be limiting testimony to 1 minute per testifier per bill for people participating remotely please remain muted and video disabled until shortly before it is your turn to testify when I call your name onute M yourself and your time will begin after your minute is completed staff will mute you so that we can move this hearing along in an orderly and efficient manner thank you welcome Senator Donna Mado Kim you the first item on our agenda is Senate Bill 529 relating to education appropriates funds to the Department of Education for its COA program this program is to educate students by integrating Math Science Social Studies Civics leadership language and literacy with cultural practices and traditions in AA land and Community settings first to test superintendent Kashi please K Vice chair Kim aloh Keith Hayashi superintendent testifying on behalf of the Department of Education the department stands on his written testimony and support of this measure the impact of H has been truly been performed for our students and our families and our communities thank you for the opportunity to testify follow thank you next to testify n Noah Thompson CEO Polynesian voyaging Society aloh I enjoyed seeing you in h July at the convention center where you spoke so passionately and eloquently on educating our cats through our dedicated teachers and our communities we are also so fortunate to the partnership that we have with you and the Polynesian oing society as well as a here well H and thank you um chair and vice chair for having me um having said that I you just need to know that for me education is everything it will determine our future but what we teach our children so I'm here to support the DOA in any way I can and um I know we only have one minute so um let me get I put in written testimonies is much more detailed about my support I just want to say 2013 we started on morning The Arc went from Alaska to San Diego got a phone call in late August that from Laina and um they said in the black of the storm you bring the canoe home so we did but my sense in communities there's a lot of strain there's stress uh economic there's um and children are concerned about about future not clear so we stayed home and did this five Monon Voyage which is going to end up being seven months total going around the state 26 Comm ports probably will hit like 300 to 350 communities and reason why I'm support of um bill um 529 is because I seen the impact of a when there's a bridge that's created between the power of communities and families and the whole that bridge to teachers were the bridge to our schools so I just want to uh just say that maybe imagine my poor mathematics but by August when 13,000 School teachers go back to 295 schools and wait for 27,000 school kids come we may be at the point where we won't be able to train um 2,600 teachers and to reach 55,000 students that's why I'm in support of this particular Bill thank you thank you I Know M questions um that all T yes um that's all the testify is correct superintendent I think this is a wonderful program and I believe that if it's integrated into the schoolwork that it can be projects that will Encompass math literature um common sense and tradition so I think it's an overall program which is what we what we search for to have in our curriculum so questions I'm going to ask is like um I I just I'm not sure why it hasn't been embedded into the curriculum and why we have to actually put a separate like it's a separate program um so my question is who is this offered to is it like a special course or is it integrated into the the curriculum now thank you very much for the question Senator um actually it's being integrated into the curriculum actually the uh um thanks to n Thompson and Polynesian voyaging society and our Community Partners that uh participate in the H across our communities um it's an opportunity to bring communities together uh to bring teachers together students um uh with with the oh with our Cano and um really help students to connect on the importance of um Thea uh VA and um looking at building on uh uh n Thompson's 10 million planetary Navigators you know it's it's about as you shared Senator is about um building the sense of value and community and appreciation for Earth and and all that we have so to your question about being integrated um definitely no no matter what um curriculum I believe that's being taught in our schools there is a direct connection that teachers can make to community support and to uh the H program and um it it is about bringing our teachers together to um help build that sense of so when you refer to the whole Care Program what program is it actually that's embedded now or what is it now it's not embedded yet is this just the training portion of this or I so I I think for me as a teacher if I were a teacher that's participating H um I'm able to bring my class down to to the no I understand but currently right now what is in the schools because I'm reading the bill and it says that U legislature finds that um this movement ignites 10 million Navigators who will pursue critical inspiration voyages but what is it actually because is there it is this a brand new thing that's being integrated right now it it it connects and integrates to our current curriculum uh it is up to the teachers and uh to be able to connect to the current okay students aren't don't have this in their curricul they they currently don't have it in so that this is very important for us to right and you've been building it by training the teachers is Teachers uh bringing Community organizations together and and so forth okay so in the meantime the curriculum is being Rewritten as such to embed this yes for for teachers to build connection to uh what they experience to the whole uh experience so is it required how do you how do you ensure that it's being integrated throughout like is it from K through 12 or how how are you how are you folks looking at this I I think um you know as as a as a educator um and experiencing H experiencing the uh the connections that students have as as I go there and I listen to the teachers and to the students um I really believe that it's a strong connection for students and so um teachers will I I really believe connect with this so it's not a um a mandate that teachers will uh do ABC and D in in this sequential order but it's more of a a connections that we make as as Educators and bringing that sense of value uh all you know vales to our students integrating but if you have a teacher that is not buying into it or if you have a teacher that don't actually do it you know what I'm saying how do you how do we ensure that all of the students are getting this and I'm don't saying that they all have to do it the same way but that there's some way of measuring how much of this have been actually integrated um by classes um I I I really believe that um uh as as teachers um experience the whole program and make those connections uh they they're able to make connections throughout curriculum I don't I don't think I don't believe that it's a uh only in a certain content area that they'll draw connection to with experiencing but again there there's no guarantee that all the teachers are going to embrace it right there's no guarantee that you know one class may not get the same benefits as others whose teacher might be a little bit more passionate about it I'm not sure I'm just trying to find out you know it's one thing to have a program but it's another thing to measure at some point and to ensure that there is some systematic way in which it is getting to the student and that we can measure it at the end of the year to find out whether or not we achieve the purpose and not just yeah if the teachers feel you know motivated about it that you trust they're going to integrate it but they may not um I I do believe that we we have um an evaluation uh uh that teachers complete as a after the whole let me just double check on that there is an evaluation that as teachers go through the whole Care Program uh that they do complete and fill out to say you know the the what value they have in it their connections and so forth It's not at that point the point at the end of the school year once this because this is new or this has not been integrated so once it's integrated after the end of the year do is there some kind of evaluation to see how much of that has been integrated I think um when we look at uh some of the data that we're collecting through like a panorama survey and such there are a number of things that um teachers do in the classroom to help build uh the sense of efficacy sense of um connectedness um so so you're saying yes there is going to be a mechanism by which we can look at and see a direct connection uh to specifically to hokel at the end of the year um I don't believe we have that uh but will is that your intent to have something um we we definitely can look at at um implementing something to put in a thing where it's it's taught differently across the and not all the students get to benefit thank you you know I think it's really important too that um as teachers go through it I know for me I I I did also that when I went through the program I made personal connections for myself that I I didn't expect to make and I think that's um uh it it's it's that connection with uh with with the community um um Partners there with hok it it it is life I like life changing it is it definitely understand and but it doesn't affect everybody the same way so I'm just just wanting to make sure that we are investing in this and that we're ensuring that it is going to be embedded and that we have a way of looking at to see how successful we were because if only 75% or 80% of the teachers are actually utilizing it a teacher might just use a small portion of it and not enough I mean I'm just you know how do you know that unless there's some way of measuring it I um you bring up a good point I think also uh within our schools we do have uh as grade level teams and such or um uh um Pathways and CTE groups of teachers get together and they uh continuously discuss about learning student learning and what they're going to be doing next um I know that when teachers participate in the H uh experience uh definitely that would be some of the again I don't doubt that but at the end of the day I want to see the data I want to see that you know this is being integrated so that and and every teacher will integrate it in their own way but again that it is being integrated in a meaningful way that the students are benefiting from it and I really think they can so the money that how have you been paying for the training and stuff you had monies in the budget before this um prior to this we were leveraging some of the our SRA funds our s federal funds um as as as Sir has how much have did you leverage um I I believe about the same we last milon yes 3.5 million over the last each year okay and that money went to what to train the teachers training and experience training and experience for the teachers teachers and students okay so the bulk of the teachers have been trained no can you come forward so okay maybe I should preference that by saying when do you tend to Institute this full on come Tomy Department of Education um we started haare uh two years ago at the beginning of um The Voyage and we have started in two complex areas I'm sorry two districts wward and the word and then we cumulatively built out so we've trained to date about 1,300 of our teachers um Senator you are asking about like the scope uh the funds that we're requesting will provide both teacher PD as well as Student Activities so our most recent Hare in Maui had 2,000 I think students that participated um over multiple days both on lahina as well as in in partnership with PVS at um Central Maui so each haare that we're hosting will have anywhere from you know several hundred to very large groups we have one scheduled for spring in Hilo and we're hoping to he hit each of our complex areas but our funds right now can only do a certain amount of students at a certain given time um part of it is capacity of our canoes and our Ina based organization so um one day might be focused on secondary schools we'll bring out just our middle school students and Center our activities around age appropriate for them and yes we do do evaluations both students as well as teachers as well as our community partners that are coming in with us to see um one is at the right setup and pairing as well as um what activities do they see that will be ongoing cuz some of these activities there are follow-ups both in the class room as well as like summer you know like what comes next you know see that's my that's my vision that it's embedded in the curriculum so that's why I guess I'm having a hard time when you just refer to this as a whole care um event or whole care s it shouldn't it should be part of the curriculum and if part of the curriculum means they have to go see the Cano or they have to go see the whatever it is that is already embedded and it's not a separate program correct because when you have a separate program you have um the tendency to lose the funding to lose this but if it's embedded in the program like every other stuff you embed into your program that has certain things related to it right whether it be you know um um trips or or student Student Activities whatever that it's embedded into the program and yes you might have to dedicate some monies but I'm having a difficulty when 4 million a year how many more teachers you intend to train and so forth yeah I think what you have to think about for the event there's things like superintendent share that we can do in the classroom but to actually put on the event allows us the opportunity to partner with those 50 organizations um it does require funding for us to move the canoes to different locations but we'll be able to leverage the resources of those commity based Arts to put on the event is expensive I do want to say that but but if it's part of your curriculum to know it in advance be able to when are these events and how it's related and so then the teachers have advanced notice so that they can work the curriculum so it leads up to the event and so forth I think it's so important that we we have this done in in a holistic manner exactly not peace new yeah like you said so for instance this year Kawaii is getting ready for their event so this school year they're spending what we call preh like you said the canoe is being taken to each of the schools um and then they'll do activities to get ready to for a fall actual Hare event at the beach similar to what Maui had so kind future budgets looking like is it like every year you're going to ask for $4 million no I think $4 million will allow us to continue to build capacity at each of our districts we've designated um the 4 million will allow us for eight districts on hav island to do eastn West because it's not realistic for us to move kids um it allows for like I said the pre the preor care event the actual big it's a week long we'll have a day for our kaiapuni students and then four days of elementary middle and high activities and then it allows for us to do a post activity back in the classrooms um each year we're able to train additional teachers so this year you know we're up to uh what is that 1300 teachers of out of 13,000 teachers so we hope to keep building more and more teachers each year that we have haare and who does the training um we um use all of our Community Partners the department our partners like with Polynesian fory Society so we have a large amount of of um Ina based and vaa based organizations that help is there such a point where you'll have um these people totally trained that they can then train in house yes we actually um with festpac which happened last year we were able to build um do training for our lead teachers to then take it back to some of their grade levels so some of it could be train the trainer but I think like superintendent said it's one of those things that you yourself have to experience I think like you said to build that connection might be a little bit harder to hear it from someone else unless you're already committed and invested in the kind of work I'm having training or continued training right okay thank you much I didn't mean to take up so much time it's quite all right I just think it's so important Camille so thank you for the discussion um the $4 million you're asking is for f school year 2526 correct again 4 million for 2627 correct and and by that point how many students will have been trained we will how many I mean teachers how many you know how many more years are we going to have to do this to make sure all of our teachers I think um we're thinking within the next three years cuz this is like our first like full implementation um in three years we'll be able to get to all of the districts to better assess like our capacity capacity we're also trying to get feedback from our schools like is this does this make sense this is this how you want to learn are your students see seeing the benefits out of it um I think at that point we'll have you know we'll have systems in place and I think like Senator Kim said like at that point how much can the schools already absorb will it be within our regular school budget to afford the trips um I think there is still going to have to be an investment by the department on making sure that the canoes and the vaa type of activities CU like I said it's expensive it's expensive for our organizations to host it but it makes a lot more sense for us to invest in community ORS I know our um counterparts in the private schools like Pono Kamehameha they have built their own canoes um I have big ke we do not have that capacity it is extremely expensive as n will share with you for us to invest in that type of things but our Ohana vaa can carry that you know but it still requires us to pay for our kids to have those kind of experiences so some some things I think we have to rely on our partners other things we can build you know I have um two schools called AA and W ho who have been doing work with kanun moku for many years now um um and they have built capacity so that their entire staff not just teachers but their entire staff is trained and so for them they're at a very different level it's already in in you know ingrained in their being which is what I think you're looking for and then I have other schools this is like the first time that they've even heard about voyaging so you know just kind of at a different level um it took uh wild H Anda several years though to get there so I think for us with Department support you in the next three three years we we can come back and let you know where we're at um and we couldn't do this without you know like I said the strong Partnerships we need all 50 and more you know every year we're trying to attract more Regional based support so that um each Community can host their own have you into um decommissioned Cano Cano um that they can donate to the school I I don't know Senator if we could afford the upkeep you know the the training the crew maintaining and managing getting the canoe to the water it's easier that I I was thinking not so much it's in the water or whatever but if you know if you needed like to have a real canoe there I mean that can serve other things other than being able to get in the water and have a whole crew but I mean you know looking at way ways to increase the students awareness and ability to touch feel see uh even though it's not maybe in the water correct we have um we have like for our nanakuli what and I they're working with with AA and trying to restore we have others where like I said on kaii um one of the people who submitted testimony she's actually taking the VA to each School more of the we have Urban schools like you know the I the coast kids the OU Island they have a more tendency to be by the water and see the canoes versus more of our inner schools who maybe don't have that you know ability or don't have that not in their backyard yeah and their parents is not in in their real house so to me those are the ones that may benefect from stuff but anyway that's just an idea I'm sorry great great ideas no I love it thank you any other questions thank you moving on Senate Bill 1390 computer science report so this changes the due date of Doe's annual computer science legislative report from June 30 to 20 days prior to the start of the legisl of sessions similar to other doe reports superintendent Hayashi Aloha chair kidani Vice chair Kim and members of the committee I'm Terry USI Jima assistant superintendent from the office of curriculum instruction design um the department stands on its written testimony and we appreciate the opportunity to provide testimony thank you thank you memb questions yeah Terry don't go so Terry I understand uh you need more time to be able to compile the data and that June 30th is just too close to the end of the school year right yes but going all the way to the 20 days before the convening of the legislature can you do it like by August or September because you know you you know how many reports we get by the 20 days I mean and we can barely get through them all and you're going to add one more plus I'm sure you have to deliver so many other reports for 20 days before so wouldn't you want to at least spread it out so could we could we do it more like September or August um I think probably um yes we could do it before the end of the year part of our thinking was to be consistent with the other reports that we have to submit that's my question so it would be helpful if we could do it like in September or October because um even you know what at the end of the year it takes time to get the data and it's not just like okay here's the data we have to make sure the data is good data right and I'm just thinking September October with school starting maybe you know end of summer August but hey anytime before November if we could do it October we can do we can aim to submit it earlier but I think that would give us more time I think that be better than we can I have the time to review it otherwise yeah we get so many I don't know we get at least several 100 not more okay we would appreciate October then that works can we change it okay we can talk about a decision yeah we can probably change it but my my other question is what exactly does the report entail or what it's expected to so I think um the intention of the report is over a three-year period we um systematically um put in a plan to offer computer science um in all of our schools so the first first year they started with high schools the high schools had to offer um a course and then the following year it was um it gradually ramped up so that at least um one middle school and one Elementary School had to offer it and we're at a point now where um we're expecting District yes each complex area and now we're at the point this year where we're expecting all schools to offer something something so um the report helps us to track the implementation of this important content area in our schools thank you members questions thank you ter thank you next Senate Bill 1388 it adds two voting members that represent the Department of Education to the board of education to the the school facilities Authority board superintendent testify chair kidani Vice chair marado Kim members of the committee Kei aashi superintendent testifying on behalf of the Department of Education uh the department stands on its written testimony in support of this measure although uh the school facilities Authority is charged with the Planning Development and Construction of school facilities the daily School operations and implementation of Public School curriculum remains an exclusive mission of the department um and oversight from the board Al so we do look forward to um uh should this pass work together with the school facilities Authority thank you thank you members questions so when we put this together did you folks say something to us that you thought is important that we have two we have two other members that from the school district um I'm just to clarify um put together either the bill or the SFA when we put the SFA you know we put five members right then you want to add two so I'm just wondering was this something that we overlooked or you guys didn't think you should have anybody on there um well I think um as we um move forward it's it's important in working together with SFA I think we've identified that having a a superintendent and the board chair on the SFA um helps to ensure that there is collaboration it makes sense I'm just wondering if that wasn't something proposed the beginning uh uh sorry S I wasn't here when the SFA was um initially created okay I was just curious let's do that and then when you say that it's the superintendent's design the chairperson design I assume that it's going to be the same one um throughout whatever term you point them to and that every meeting is not going to be a different person no for um for for I can speak on my behalf either it will be me or the same designate I think it's important we put that so there's some continuity okay thank you so I'm not sure how well you collaborate or the doe collaborates with sing now but uh will this bill help with this collaboration yes Senator uh um chair the um the bill Will adding two members uh to the SFA board um myself and the board chair uh will help with the collaboration so is SFA now in communication with the doe and the Boe uh we we try our best to uh collaborate with each other I think there has been some instances where um collaboration could be a little better but I think that this will help from your side or from SFA side um uh don't mean to put you on the spot but I I I you know for this to work to for the benefit of both agencies as well as our students and our schools yes there has to be collaboration and if there is an issue I think this committee you know should know so we can try and help fix whatever that is um I I can speak for on behalf of the department uh we we have um done our best to collaborate and work together with um SFA and any other agency I think it's important especially in this in this particular situation with the school facilities Authority I think they're charged with a a very important responsibility and so working together with the Department is I think of the utmost importance so um I know one of the uh projects that SFA is working on is uh teacher housing so um we've had as far as I know one meeting out at middle Loney High School are you guys aware when the meetings happened or do they collaborate with you guys I mean I just want to know that it's not being this is what're we're going to do and you guys have no inut um we we we've tried our best to uh work together with SFA to um um to to uh with the Milani high school project um thank you members forther question so the governor appoints all five members now right yes have you ever talked with the governor and and recommend people to put on that you think might presented interest of the school um I I have I have not yet reached out to the governor related to SF because he could he could appoint one of the five to be from the board or whatever right I mean he could appoint whoever he wanted yes I I I think this would um this bill would ensure that there is representation for I'm just trying to see if we work within the within the framework of the um law that's there and then you're saying they're voting members why do they have to be voting members can't they just be ex official members because I don't know if having um conflicting interests and then a division of the of the um board because of that I'm just trying to anticipate what could happen um um I I think that as voting members um it it's important that all um seven members get together to to work through any issues that might arise and having um everyone as voting member members I think helps to facilitate that process um that everyone's views are uh considered I but I see that the board chair would have additional weight in the sense that they know he's the board shair he already has a lot of powers that he can already influence and similarly with you um I I see it more in the board chair but I'm wondering if that you know Screw skes the um the whole makeup of it I I I I think um Senator Vice chair that uh although we each of the seven members have their respective positions um in in uh on the board um each member still just has one vote that would be equal so but you have influence I mean come on you know that some members or on the board would have more influence over others um and the fact that you know when third pretty much one third of the board would be coming from the board and from from schools uh one of the things we're hoping that this will do is like the chair said have collaboration that you know when they're going to be at the schools and so forth so I'm just wondering if that the necess necessity of them having a vote and just sitting on the on the vot on the board so anyway I'm just questioning I I personally for me I just I think it's important that um s members be voting members okay thank thank you superintendent has um the department been advised or had any collaboration and discussions as to uh what schools will have um teacher housing uh from to my knowledge uh no not from you mean from SFA with the Department of Education right uh no not to my knowledge no okay uh in in a collaborative sense okay so I mean to me that's an issue because you guys have full Authority on school grounds so they can do all the plans they want without you but it's not going to happen if you don't agree is that correct um I I would I I would um hope so Senator that to be able to work together um I I do believe that there is some um uh uh with within the SFA respons responsibilities themselves uh I'm not sure if we're in agreement on on that but that might be something for um uh School facili authority to respond thank you further questions members okay thank you super capson executive director Board of Education good afternoon uh chair Vice chair and Senator uh capson po executive director of the board uh standing on our written testimony supporting the bill uh and we just want to say we do welcome all the opportunities for communication and coll operation thank you members questions thank you Ricky fujitani good afternoon Senators Ricky fujitani with the school facilities Authority we stand and our written testimony with comments MERS questions yeah so you heard the discussion do you foresee any kind of issues of on voting versus ex official being ex official members of the board I think typically it's been ex official in this yeah it's it's voting so it's it's it's a little different right now are they ex officials no right now there is no there right this this bill would make them voting but I'm asking your opinion as to whether or not it should be ex official or you think it should be it should be ex official okay thank you so Ricky thanks for being here so so what what is the current communication right now that we have to have a bill that you know is forcing you guys to communicate is that communication just not naturally happening already so we actually have uh four standing meetings with the doe there's one monthly one overall on the direction of the SFA and how it impacts the doe that's happens monthly there's that's open meeting or that's it's with uh myself Chief of Staff the deputy super uh Camille okay with also with Audrey hadano on basil side and with the deputy superintendent used to be Randy Moore first it was C O gorl then it was Randy Moore and now it's with d chea so that's a monthly meeting and we go through all our programs that we're do dealing with and how it impacts the Department of Education that's the first standing meeting the second standing meeting is with Milani High School on all the issues and all the Milani High School issues have been constantly with the lead of friend Murphy so that's the second standing meeting there's a third standing meeting that we're trying to schedule with Workforce housing and that hasn't been scheduled yet we're waiting for a response and then and the department of education on who their point person is and then um the fourth standing meeting is with Central Maui schools and that's again a regular meeting that one has had many meetings because as you know the central Mai schools is in schematic conceptual planning stages so there's been significant amounts of meetings on those first stting meetings so those are the basic studing meetings we document we keep a log of every meeting you keep a log of what the minutes are is it available online no no could you put it online um yeah actually the the Central Maui ones are online um the midani high school ones have been documented there's a separate website for that too for additional Workforce housing not yet and the other one is an internal one with Senior Management so I guess the question BS becomes I guess even though you're having the meetings are you actually listening to what the doe says because I think if if they feel like they need greater say over things my sense is something's a miss here well for if we look at each of those standing meetings the first one is an overall strategy Direction uh the second meeting dealing with Workforce housing right the I guess I'll cut to the Chase and I guess the question is is my sense is you know I might be wrong but I think my sense is that the doe felt like at a certain point the whole Milani thing wasn't something that they consented to right um they felt that maybe the RFP wasn't um what they expected it to be what you have to realize in the enabling legislation for Workforce housing Milani high school was the number one on the list with the most amount of money I mean that was in the actual that doesn't mean you just go do what you want you have to have some discussions with the oh absolutely the meetings were with um Senator one meeting that I am aware of although there's been in total maybe 20 or 30 meetings there were a whole bunch of pre RFP meetings because of site selection on the impacts of these issues an RFP process is a very very long process yeah so could this be avoided if there was Prior some type ofus before proceeding or some type of other doc I'm just I'm just trying to find ways to how we bridge this Gap because I think there's needs I I think there's a role for you to play it's just I feel like the Dee feels like they need a larger stay and so yes this bill is one way to do it but I feel like there's other ways that you can do it without a bill as well right on the preschools there was four or fiveo use significant amounts of meeing so that's really not the issue I think the issue was with Milani High School okay but there was no with that with liai high school right no okay yeah it's so maybe we should move towards that model so what's happening since the initial RFP and subsequent rfps that are needed in order to repurpose School lands for work for housing the governor's office has stepped in has conducted monthly meetings between us in order to p that along because in the eling legislation for Workforce housing it's really the governor's decision he has that final say so the governor has to be on board at the start and that's the intent so will Kaine has taken the lead on that so he is scheduling he's had a series of meetings and he's trying to push along the next Who's included in the meetings RI it's uh governor's office Attorney General's office the Department of Education and the school facilities Authority for future could you also send it to the committee on education sure yes I know that SFA has been um in communication with the department but can you explain why uh doe found out about the mid December meeting after SFA sent mailers out to the constituents right so um Milani high school was aware of it they're aware of the request from Senator Del Cruz's office to do a greater mailer and so they were informed the school committee Council was informed it's just that that communication then from the school to deal we management didn't occur but the school has always been involved every step of the way in the midd high school Prospect you uh you and SFA or or their Consultants stated that potential school campuses would be used for future teacher housing and the department was not communicated after repeated letters requesting F SFA to communicate with them I can show is it your intention to cause confusion or or I'm I'm just trying to clear this up because this is our communities and your task with with doing uh teacher housing however it's on school property and principles still have control of their schools absolutely so we've done no other RFP since Milani RFP Milani High School Fred Murphy was involved from the very start no other rfps or due diligence has been done in any other school the amount of money that we have to do rfps we only have for this one so until there's additional funding there's no funds to do due diligence to progress to the next sites we've identified a lot of sites but none of this has gone beyond any communication to the principal of the schools please also copy the superintendent and myself we will was it your intention to cause confusion with School principles who were unaware that their campuses could be used for Teacher housing could you said that at a meeting Our intention was not there are lots of schools that could be monetized or could be repurposed for workfor housing we have not done any due diligence or engagement in order to pursue next steps questions um yeah I guess so in your monthly standing meetings with the chief of staff Don everybody else in there do you talk about the upcoming meetings um for Millie Lon do you talk about all those things yes we have three programs we have three very distinct programs the progress with preschools the progress with the midani RFP and Workforce housing and the third Central M that's all we've been aside okay so at these meetings how involved and how um interested doe have participated and asked questions and stuff yeah they're typically at least an hour or or or longer and they're very involved in all the issues we we summarize it every month and we go so you you think that there's a lot of communication yes yes I do okay can I ask um the Board of Education as to you can stay there as to what is your what is your need that you see that you folks need to vote on this board what is what's been lacking well Senator I think part of it is um it just formalizes some of the communications that we've been talking about you have to have a vote to formalize Communications I I think we would appreciate the vote no I know You' appreciate it but I mean you you folks as a board already have that power over everything that comes under the scope of the board so to get on to another board that has another vote I mean there's other ways to be able to get the communications and having a vote because even with a vote what does that do you just formalize vote and if it's s five to2 or what does that really do just getting a vote I mean I I think that that that's true what you point out I mean again we think representation matters having a vote matters but I mean if if the legislature decid otherwise that's fine and I think being all the things that have been discussed I think everybody would want to continue all of this engagement and communication and I'm trying to get to the bottom of what what precipitated this and if it's lack of communication then I don't know if just getting a vote on the board will improve that communication because if there's all these meetings going on then you know and if you're not asking questions in these meetings if you're not being engaged then it's not going to help if you're one you have one representative ative on the board and one representative the board that votes how that information going to get down now if that's the case then they don't need to keep anybody in informed because you too going to be informed and it's up to you guys now to get the word out right you follow me so you have a lot more at stake now because you are the representative and it's up to you to get that information out which I don't know that you want to take on that additional responsibility I mean Senator I just say that I mean with that kulana right I me if you get a seat at the table then you do have to accept all the things has been known to not get information out so anyway okay thank you thank you um so Ricky there's a potential that the school campuses other school campuses will be used for future teacher housing so is it the um sfa's um intent to make sure that um the principles and the community is aware and not start any project any type of any work without notification yes so was it your intention to cause confusion with School principles who were unaware their campuses would be used for Teacher housing no the enabling legislation actually lists a whole bunch of campuses ident identified by the legislature where te future teaching housing projects should have happened but you've made statements in public meetings that you're going to do other um projects and no one's aware of what these projects are yeah we haven't started it every school there's 256 sites that are all potential sites for workfor housy what about the the Middle School in Moi have you notified any of the principles or the Middle School in Maui and Central Maui there's no space it's not an option yeah okay so there's no plans right now absolutely the those two schools are overcrowded they're compacted the the need is to build additional capacity for schools in central so you are aware SFA is aware that the doe has full Authority on their campuses so any plans whatever should be discussed with the doe and the scho principles as well as the superintendent yes absolutely act 307 gives title to the doe they own the land the only way we can monetize or repurpose that the governor has to approve the transfer of the land or the use of the land for the SFA to repurpose that's why it all starts with the governor's office because if he doesn't agree there's no progress I'm asking you before you go that step that you discuss with the superintendent and the principal of the school before you take get step to Governor so that you fully are aware of the needs of the school in the community that's one of the standing meetings that will cane is leading in order to go on the next steps for subsequent rfps and that is done by letter or just phone calls or what well so far it's been a series of meetings with Will Kane his recommendation is to have a standing meeting scheduled between the school facilities Authority and the land use group at the doe in order to triage and prioritize and identify all those sites before we do are you aware of these meetings sure thank you Senator um I have attended uh two meetings uh what that what um director um is is talking about you had Representatives go to the other meetings uh we've had repres uh the one that he's speaking about uh related to Mr K I've gone to two of those um for the invited to all of them I have been invited to those with Mr K I went to two of them and you send anybody else in um if if anybody attends that meeting it would be our school facilities Authority you can authorize somebody can't me but you have't I have whoever whoever uh if there is a meeting with u the governor's office then if I can't make it right so you know about facilities I do yeah um however Senator I um just to to kind of clarify um when when as if it has standing meetings with the Department what is discussed at those standing meetings is really important because although we have standing meetings if it's not the if it is not the point of discussion on what decisions are being made or what's being explored um and those discussions and standing meetings are limited we have no knowledge of what else is going on but you can ask right uh not if we don't know what is happening but you can ask at the meetings for more information or Clarity or whatever if we know what the next steps are going to be well if you go to all the meetings you have a better idea right I mean you have that opportunity you have a voice on the Committees right now or on this meeting if you attend if you don't attend then you have no voice right we correct right so if you ATT 10 you can ask is is there anything else on the horizon is there anything else coming up that we need to know about you have any plans right can you ask that at every single meeting we can okay do you have that opportunity who holds the meetings uh it's a depending on which standing meeting uh it's a standing meeting with uh Mr fuani with the chief of staff is online with our facilities folks with Will Kane it's who that's in person in person but who calls that meeting uh well the the the policy office the policy office yes so in in the um in the case of the midani high school project um as Mr fuani shared that um principal knew of the the project our conflix superintendent wasn't aware neither was my office aware why not that's a good question I'm not sure I I believe that the the the in talking with the principal uh he thought that the communication was going to go between SFA and our office so repeat do you guys just go to the principal with no letter directed to the superintendent so uh to give you a real brief history I started this in February the RFP was posted months before so all those meetings were before we started as soon as we found that out we did have a meeting with superintendent Chief of Staff with B Davis with Fred Murphy with Kurt wter Gurl on the status of that RFP because until then we were not aware that subsequent Communications from Fred to senior staff didn't happen so after that then we had a slew of meetings inviting all the key people on the status of the Milani RP including with our key consultant the willham group that was running that whole job so upon discovery that the previous executive recor did not involve other than the scho of all this information we Rectify that we scheduled a bunch of meetings with all the key people we even formed a steering committee task force specifically do with midd with key legislators the Attorney General School Community Council neighborhood boards on on the status of that Ary so in all your Communications written communication with principles um do you provide copies to superintendent and the complex area superintendent the only one we've had is with Fred Murphy and certain ones we copy I mean after that meeting we copy everybody on everything yeah because but that's already in play that RP was in Flight already right it was already been posted when did the Ry get post uh December of 2023 and did you guys know about the Ry no you didn't know about I you didn't know what's posted Noe I did not who knew under de besides the principal um I don't know but the principal did know princip knew right yeah I mean Fred was involved from the start on the sites the location the draft and it's a public document right yes it is it's posted on posted so there's no way you folks somebody wasn't keeping track or going on should you not include the superintendent as a CC on anything to deal with SCH um I was at the doe that time superintendent were you the superintendent no I was working at the do that time when the RP was posted that was in 2023 what was your role um I was in the auxiliary Services Department did you know about the rfg uh no at the doe my function was paying a lot of bills so who was who was FS FSA or whatever uh at that time it was uh the first executive director uh Chad fuus yeah so he's not there anymore question for an executive director Boe so so I guess do you does the board get regular reports from school facilities Authority as a standing item on your agenda uh no no we we don't but the why why don't you we are looking to schedule some meetings maybe maybe they should be a standing agenda item and then you don't need to then they can come to you you don't have to go to them and they can tell you everything that they're doing because I would assume that the Board of Ed members don't know what's going on because the board chair can can't tell the other members nevertheless if he was a member without going into a publicly noticed meeting under the Sunshine Law anyway that's correct Senator U but I could also say that we as staff can try and make them aware of things that are coming up and to your earlier suggest you only can tell them that in an open meeting that's that's noticed yes so you should have an agenda item to at least inform your members of what's going on at SFA right thank you very much for the suggestion Senator no in all seriousness uh we do have uh SFA uh schedu to come before the board no I would recommend a standing agenda item we can make things more regular I I I think I think at the end of the day something is broken so we just got to fix it and I don't think you need a bill to fix it it's just somebody needs to be proactive to fix it right and I think you're the the prime person to do that and then just uh just to clarify I don't want to uh I do need to check with the board members and yes the appropriate chair uh to to actually schedule that but hopefully they can watch this on YouTube and they can see the interaction you think thank you thank you further questions further comments sure superintendent please thank you Senator um I I do also just want to uh point out that uh this bill is a Governor's package Bill and it was drafted in collaboration with SFA thank you okay thank you members we are moving on to Senate Bill 527 which establishes and appropriates funds for the full-time equivalent of five full-time equivalent positions within the Civil Rights compliance branch of the Department of Education to testify superintendent good afternoon Senator kidani chair kidani Vice chair Kim Tammy Chun Deputy superintendent testifying in support of this bill this bill would increase the capacity of our civil rights compliance branch office to respond to and conclude complaints and investigations more quickly the recent changes with Title 9 in the Trump Administration um changed the the rules under which Title 9 cases are reviewed and so the additional capacity also assists with that thank you thank you members questions question how many do you have now there are currently 15 Equity Specialists you have 15 and you need five more you need one3 more so the 15 are uh most of them are assigned to a geography to a particular complex area so they handle the cases from the complex area the four of the additional position would float among all the complex areas to provide additional capacity where there are um cases that need to be dealt with and one position would be for gender Equity regarding um Title 9 Athletics how many cases do you get a year about 400 cases a year and each case um each of the 15 gets divided among them or how does that work so because they're most of them are geographically based um it's not always even across all of the Specialists but um on average um hang on see so I think it it do depend on how many cases are coming up from any particular complex area so they each have about 25 30 cases yeah on average in addition the uh civil rights office also handles accommodation requests for Ed okay thank you thank you to testify Linda elento on Zoom Linda please proceed is Lind I'm in of FB 527 but I wanted to ask that the committee consider additions but basically the of students with disabilities also be included I feel like that this particular Bill kind of hides Section 504 as well as Ada as it applies to students also the Hawaii Revis statutes 36815 also includes um the civil rights of children or students with disabilities um I I can provide um some written testimony with more details but again I wanted to support or ask that the funding be also considered for um specifically for students with a disability who may or may not um need special education so that they can have access to an accommodation modification Aid Service opportunity or benefit that the Department of Education offers thank you for this opportunity and I would welcome or be able to answer any questions thank you Linda I look forward for your written comments members questions there are four testifiers in support but I do not believe they're online they're all written testimony pardon one in opposition yes one one person was in opposition testone any questions thank you superintendent did you want to comment on this thank you moving on to item Senate Bill 868 relating to school bus driver certification subsidy pilot program which establishes a one-year School Bo driver certification 7 by subsidy pilot program within the doe for fiscal year 2526 requires reports to the legislature and appropriates funds anybody to testify on this bill superintendent good afternoon Cher Kon Vice chair ke member of the committee Dina Deputy superintendent testifying on behalf of Department of Education the department stands on its written testimony which provides comments on this measure the Department of Transportation is primary is the primary agency responsible for licensing and ensuring compliance of school bus drivers in Hawaii the department of education does not own or manage School Bus fleets and lacks the resources to certify staff needed to implement a comprehensive bus driver certification program we thank you for the opportunity to testify on this measure anyone else here wishing to testify on this measure members questions um yes questions I appreciate your testimony I had some questions regarding whether or not um doe can certify you have the Personnel no we don't to certify and then who would the bus drivers work for right we don't have flea so they're all contracted out right um lewood Community College is helping with trying to get bus driver certified they have a extended program but yeah we're not involved with the dver be better if we gave this money or funding or whatever to Community College I was wondering we take on certifying we have enough challenges already okay thank you okay so Dean yeah um how many well what's the shortage I mean in percentage of bus school bus driers it it fluctuates because we're dealing with two different vendors contractors and we don't know what it's going to be we cannot project what the shortage might be that's what's really you know the the tragedy of this whole thing is that we cannot prepare for it because we don't know until school starts if the driver show up or not you know some of them they just don't come back after summer or the Christmas break and so that first day of school is always really traumatic for our bus guys because they got to figure out you have enough to cover got to move stff around um that's the unpredictability and that's what causes aot of problems right now so what would be the cost of um this program I mean how many how many um people are you expecting to get certified what is a shortage Nationwide of you know school bus drivers and then I think you see the advertisements on TV with um West the Wahu aggate recruiting bus drivers everybody's trying to look forward at uh CPL designation um it's just we don't have people that are interested in driving a school bus right now that's kind of the problem so is there projected cost in I I don't I don't know trying to do this program they cannot don't we don't even know if we going have enough drivers so I I don't know how how much the training would be right okay so so are we is do e trying to do this program themselves or they're going to ask us this is a this is a bill from a senator so this not yeah it's not our but we have reached out to the city and county etss to try and see what we can do to you know overlapping um the city bus routes with our bus route I maybe free up some more drivers but they're still in discussion right now we haven't had any commitment from anybody so but you don't have any idea what the cost would be then no not at this moment questions thanks Dean for being here yeah I I guess the the what begs the question is the intent of why we're this Senator introduced this bill is that there's just a frustration with this bus driver thing right and I think I see the deputy there who I you know had some words for at the beginning of this school year about why this is happening again and I I granted your new so maybe there's a fresh set of eyes but I think it's just we know that it's this is happening over and over again and I think PE legislators are just kind of frustrated at this point that something needs to be done to fix it right I think we cannot go into another year and say oh we're just going to do the same thing and expect different results because I feel like that's what we are kind of doing so I think you just need to give give us assurance that there is a plan for this coming school year and even on ma we haven't filled all of our school bus routes they're not all back right right and that's unacceptable in my mind that we're at this point where we can't even fill them and so at some at some point there needs to be some operational differences whether we're you know doing I don't know stagger school start time so the bus can do multiple routes or something right but for a lack of just saying oh we're just going to do the same thing again and hope for a different result I think that's at least this bill offers a solution even though you you can't implement it but you you get the gist of where it's coming from understand I understand yeah I mean I think everybody's trying to help get more more bus drivers um unfortunately we don't have a a large Dem I mean a large uh work to work from I mean Workforce to work from um trying to train them going through leward program that's one option I we try to grow our own to that program um but you know we cannot predict how many people are going to grew up and want to take the class and get the CB license that's the problem I get I get that so so with the with the challenges that we have is the de we looking at any other thing like I said is staggered school start times or something else reaching out to the you know Rand Randy was brought before he left it was very interesting he was like well we're going to let them work at on the bus and then they're going to come work for us and then they're going to then drive the bus again interesting at least he's thinking outside the box but I think that's what it takes right trying all those things and you know not many not much success the thing with the the city is if we can get um some of the routes overlapping we free up drivers and we have more drivers that we can spread around to other places that need rout so that's kind of yeah but that's not going to work on the neighbor Islands well they can they can take the drivers and fly them to the neighborhood some of the the companies are doing that now because of the shortage so it's happening right now with drivers flying to neor Islands to cover different routes okay okay well I hope we don't have the same debacle this next school year you and me both you and me both well I I think it's the whole economy and not just bus drivers but we've got rubbish Pickers and all kinds of areas so maybe we need the policy as to how do we how do we do this because as we give more and more services it becomes an entitlement and then it's hard to take it away so if you go to staggered school hours the parents are going to complain about that so there's really you know no real I don't know solution at this point unless people take their kids to start taking their own kids to school or you know I used to walk half a mile to school but yeah covered barefooted barefooted in the snow thank you so I mean I don't think there's an answer to this this this issue but are we encouraging more students to go online or how are we trying to deal with this problem city bus yeah that's that's one option we're trying to look at the city bus pass BR is that the only option though I we're looking at the the thing that Randy had talked about getting drivers but we're getting a hard time getting anybody interested in even doing that so yeah but knowing that because it's not just school bus drivers everybody all the bus drivers companies are having issues so how are we trying to solve the problem are we trying to do more online classes or no we we're trying to address the transportation issue as best we can and we're trying all different things right now you know the licensing different programs but in the meantime how many students are missing classes and missing school work school time because of the the lack of the bus routes being covered correct not being able to get school no matter what I don't have that exact information but I'll get it for you that be interesting to see but yeah that would be something to look at to see if we can provide maybe more online I know it's not the ideal but we still have to we have a an obligation to our students to make sure that they're getting their education right I agree so I'd be interested to know what other um things you guys have looked at okay we'll get back to you thank you thank you okay 1393 one more uh use of public lands Senate bill of 1393 it requires SFA to consult with doe or other impacted Department agencies before any transfer or lease of land or property owned or occupied by the do ensures that SFA land use decisions aligned with the du's operational and strategic goals takes effect upon its approval superintendent Hayashi why is this bill needed kadani VI chair members of the committee Tashi testifying on behalf of the department uh we do stand on our written testimony support of this measure and requesting though uh an amendment uh uh in working together with SFA to delete on page three lines 10 and 11 a quote upon terms and conditions as may be agreed to by the parties for the purpose of this chapter and quote uh removing this language uh will create more flexibility for the parties to effectuate the bill and again this is a Governor's um package bill and we have collaborated with the school facilities Authority in in this bill explain why that why you need that deleted cuz I would think you'd want them to agree to right no um yes it it's uh under uh HRS uh let's see um 302a 1703 uh the school facilit Authority is charged with the responsibility for uh the development planning and construction related to all public schools that are assigned by the legislature Governor or the State Board of Education uh so in in um uh us working to consult with the Department uh would help to um um again build in stronger Communications I thinking about this line that you want deleted yes Amendment you want this line taken out in collaboration with the school facilities Authority page three lines 9 10 11 10 and 11 10 and 11 yes it says upon terms and conditions as may be agreed to by the parties for the purpose of this chapter so you don't want the parties to agree um we uh did want the parties to agree why you take out in collaboration with together with SFA I think we agreed that we would remove that language SFA can you come for I I'm just confused I don't know am I reading it wrong stay there you don't want to have the agreement what is this no the the statute is poorly drafted it just has to be clarified what the doe is correct in their position is that the way it's drafted when the governor authorizes transfer from any other state agency they have to agree to the terms and conditions but for some reason the last sentence repeats in the department case they don't need to so it's really inconsistent so all the intent is to try to make it consistent with state agency lands and doe lands but okay it has to be redrafted but it has to be agreed to yes absolutely on the ter I just was think you King that out yeah no I don't know why the de would agree to it the de is is is right is that that the statute is confusing and inconsistent it creates a different hoop for the doe when it should be the same for all the state LS so to be clear on page three line 10 you want to take up the upon terms and conditions as may be acced by the parties for the purpose of this chapter is that correct that's the drafters of that one to me just go back to the statute and just say state agencies and the authority is much simpler than okay convoluted just thank you a question CH SFA uh hasn't the SFA been put in position to make these kinds of decisions uh on behalf of do or Boe um because my point being is I'm afraid of getting somebody else in the process delaying the process of these transfers uh so is there something that I'm missing as far as SFA being able to vet the paperwork make the decision and not prolonging the process so all SFA has those title of aiding land so the first step is we have to approach the governor to get approval to transfer the property or lands that we want to use to repurpose once we get that approval then it's on the sfa's part to do take it out of Latin court go to the regular system get the title subdivide and then repurpose back right so our only project so far is Milani we're not at that phase yet until we get agreement from the school from legislative funding there's no point to put that for the governor for his approval to transfer the land and then subdivide it oh so this is a a situation that you've never been in before as far as being able to make that decision yeah we can't it starts with the government it thank you CH thank you any further questions superintendent sh just to clarify um Senator this chair just to be sure that so um director fujitani has mentioned that you would the SFA would check with and get permission from the school before going to the governor for request so it's the doe would be in in the very beginning in the decision- making being that it's our school campus thank you very much so it's um with approval of the doe and not just the school you approval of the do yes correct thank you thank you foration no further questions okay let's go into decisioning okay calling the committee on education back to order we are in discussion and ready to decision make on the recommendations for the Senate bills so on Senate Bill 529 relating to education is appropriate respons to the Department of Education for its whole AA program recommendation of the chair is to blank out appropriation amount and note in the committee report that 4 million is requested by the Department of Education recommendation is to pass with amendments chair v i um mam chair I have a discussion I'd like to request that we put into the commit report um the discussion regarding integrating the whole Care Program into the um embedded into the curriculum of of du as we disc thank you and also we're supposed to defect the date okay defect the date thank you for that reminder okay with those uh recommendation members is to pass SB 529 with amendments uh the chair votes I uh the vice chair votes I Senator Hashimoto I Senator k i Senator dord I okay five members present all voting I recommendations adopted thank you on Senate Bill 1390 relating to computer science legislative report changes the date of the Department of education's computer science legislative report from June 30th to 20 days prior to the start of the legislative regular session um recommendation of the chair is to pass with amendments noting Technical and non-substantive amendments um changing the deadline for Doe's annual report from 20 days prior to the start of the legislation legislative session um to by each October 31st thereafter MERS questions can I clarify so are we changing it as of October 31st from now this year and then onward right are you able to meet that deadline yeah I think she said October yes or earlier yes question members thank you okay recommendation is to amend s SP 1390 um any me member voting no any member voting with reservations hearing none all five members in the affirmative recommendation is adopted thank you for Senate Bill 1388 relating to education which adds two voting members that represent the Department educ of Education on the board of education to the school facilities Authority board recommendation of the chair is to pass with amendments and defecting the date to July 1 2015 Madam chair clarifying the amendment would be to have the board members the ex official cor board members ex official okay questions members if not the recommendation is to pass s SP 1388 with amendments any member voting no any members voting in with reservations hearing none all five members uh vote I recommendations adopted thank you Senate Bill 5 27 relating to education establishes and appropriates funds for the five full-time equivalent positions within the Civil Rights compliance branch of the Department of Education recommendation of the chair is to pass with amendments but changing the appropriation amounts in sections three and four to unspecified appropriation amounts noting in the committee report that 77952 is a appropriated for the five full-time equivalent Equity Specialists and 20,000 is appropriated for material and supplies also for some technical and non-substantive amendments and defecting the date to July 1st 2050 members questions hearing none Senate recommendation is to amend Senate Bill 527 with amendments any member voting no any no for me no for Senator de okay any members voting with reservations hearing none four members voting I one no your recommendations adopted thank you Senate Bill 868 relating to the school bus driver certification subsidy pilot program which establishes a one-year school bus driver certification subsidy pilot program within the doe for the 20252 26 school year requires reports that the legislature appropriates funds uh I think we're deferring this one members questions thank you Senate Bill 1393 relating to the use of public lands requires a school facility's authority to consult with the Department of Education and other impacted departments or agencies prior to the conveyance of ownership rights or lease of lands to the school facilities Authority recommendation of the chair is to includ include the testimony of the do e and SFA to to delete page three lines 10 and 11 which reads upon terms and conditions as may be agreed to by the parties from the per for the purposes of this chapter members questions hearing none recommendation to pass s SP 1393 with amendments anyone voting no anyone voting with reservations hearing none five members voting I recommendations adopted members that cludes our meeting meetings journe
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68% what that means is you if something cost $100 in 910 it costs $145 today okay so the next line over is the general fund in that same period of time it's grown 66% okay it has grown much faster than inflation in other words Indiana has more money today to spend than it did did in 910 you look at education that's K or prek through college that's at 40% so it's behind inflation and if you look at tuition support it's 41.46 per behind inflation now I will tell you that that's an improvement over what it has been some of that is due to the voucher program you'll see that showing up here in a little bit so to sum this up inflation at 45% the general fund at 66% and tuition support at 42% now what if there are fewer kids enrollment fluctuates according to the census Indiana is shrinking in schoolage kids we between the two censuses from 10 to 20 we lost 15,000 students so we're shrinking so theoretically it shouldn't be keeping up with inflation right there's fewer kids so let's think about this here's the enrollments since 20091 in 910 there was 1, 37,000 students in public schools in charter schools public and Charter Schools today there's 1 million 6,500 kids 6500 kids the difference so that that has shrunk but the difference is the number of voucher students that have been added and today with voucher students there's 1,812 78 so there are more kids today being funded in the tuition support line than there were in 20091 that but buget has shrunk so to compare apples to apples let's take the budget and just divide it by the number of kids now don't get confused into thinking this is how much money each school got there's a funding formula we'll talk about that in a little bit but we can compare per student how much is being budgeted and then compare that to inflation so in 910 $6,200 per student this year it's 8458 per student but with inflation it should be $9,200 budgeted per kid on a per student basis which means it's $63 million behind what it should be if they were keeping track with inflation and I've had legislators say well well I know a lot of people who their income has not kept up with inflation and I remind them that inflation's an average and what you're saying is that it's okay for teachers to be below average so if the allocation per student had kept up with the general fund Remember That Grew at 66% there'd be $10,000 per kid today so the money's they' they've got money they're making choices about where and how to allocate it now how does that money get to your school every September there's an ADM count and on that day the state computers count up all the kids the student numbers associated with your schools and then they begin to compare with all the others and if a kid is listed in two schools they call and find out who really has them because kids move and nobody takes the number off until they're made to take it off because the numbers are dollars so the count then gives you basically half the year's funding and then we do it again in February because people graduate people move yada yada so each student is worth a dollar amount based on a formula the school gets the value of each kid enrolled vouchers are 90% of the value of that student at their school so if I'm an Avon student and I'm worth $7,000 if I go to a private school they get 6,300 is that 90% something like that it's 90% I taught social studies I didn't teach so each child how much is each child well there's a basic grant for everybody and then there's a formula called complexity which determines the amount of uh it's a socioeconomic indicator basically and that increases funding for schools that have a lot of kids in poverty then if you're a special education student depending on your D designation you get a amount of money from speech which is very in very small amount of money up to severe and profound and emotional disabilities that's a much larger number there need more people um additionally there's Perkins grant money which is some of it is federal and some of it is State those are for your vocational t uh classes and then uh honors degrees but that's going away now isn't it is that part of foot's yeah yeah this yeah yeah again it's always forever being tweaked but based on this factors are put together and you get to total up based on all the kids that you have in your District okay now how's it spent when it gets here well first of all of all is your enrollment growing this is a big problem in rural Indiana because let's say that the increase in funding for this year is going to be 2% but your enrollment is dropping 4% well you're either going to have to cut teachers not do AR raay and as this happens and programs disappear students leave because they don't get this and you see some of the death spirals that you're seeing in some of the rural communities right now so that's a problem when we have students that trying getting ready to go out and look for work we go through this list with them take a look is the enrollment growing or are you going someplace where they're going to have to start laying off and if you're a rookie guess who's first so be aware the teacher contract that gets bargained out of this money basically a rule of thumb is across the State teachers salaries end up being about 50% of this money 15% of it goes into benefits for everybody so if you think about it about 45% of this is in the classroom with those teachers then you have building level administrators you have classify contracts for your aids your secretaries um and then the school board philosophy how much money do we hold in reserve or rainy day and that varies across all 300 districts in the state I've seen districts where two months is enough and I know districts where they want a whole Year's worth sitting somewhere right so all of this then is how it gets divided up and you will hear legislators say well teacher pay is a district thing it's up to the district keep in mind that the district gets a pie and it's about dividing the pie up if the pie is shrinking there's not much you can do to create more money for those teachers they'll tell you pass a referendum and then every year make it more and more difficult to pass the referendum so just be aware that that sort of whack-a-mole game is going on every year so here is in a little bit the first runs will come out and when these things come out Scott will be very excited all the legislators come running they'll run this is from the budget and it's basically they've run the formula and you can see on here here's avons from two years ago the numbers you're looking at there's all this stuff up here but really what you're looking at is right down here 7910 and 8,040 or 74 that's the ballpark guesstimate of what an average kid at Avon is going to bring to Avon in the percent is the percent increase from the year prior so if I'm a teacher and I'm bargaining I look at the first year and I'm thinking 7% raise right and then I look ahead and think oo 2% raise maybe we do some defer maybe we there's all the strategy that goes into bargaining he starts thinking about okay classes how big are my class sizes going to be how many teachers do we have are we growing or are we shrinking because this is based off a guess on enrollment and how often is the guess right Scott never so that's why all you look at is the per student number and then look at your enrollment numbers and try to figure this out now at the bottom of the list is this line This is the choice scholarship Line This is the voucher program it's in this budget and it always has been it's not a separate place it's in here and the money is coming out of tuition support it's coming out of tuition support you'll notice they don't Factor complexity in because they don't know what the complexity is because they don't know who's going to take this so the number down here at the bottom the 6,225 the 6,366 that's a guess that's even worse guess because they don't know if the average is going to have a lot of complexity or not except they've done this a number of years and they've figured out that it isn't a lot because when you see the average voucher amount that comes out in the report it's pretty close to this yes so the increase in the voucher program there 88.5% increase was bigger than the Avon increase that was very stud of you to notice and I think it's the same then in the second year 2.3 or was it something in that range yeah it's different and every District's different because of complexity and all these other things um I'm going to guess Avon does not have a high High complexity number which means maybe you didn't grow as much due to complexity I'm not sure how they calculate it the formula is one of those things that who knows BEC and you'll like for instance when this came out for the first time ever there was a huge fight because it was so bad for schools I've never we've never seen this happen there were three conference committee meetings to try to resolve the budget problem the last time remember that that that was so nobody knew what was going on for a while but yes it's a big it's a number that uh in the formula in the formula now here's a question let's think about this this is a tax break for these people right let's calculate how much of your income tax actually comes to Avon because you can do it we can get a good close enough ballpark let's assume you have a taxable income of $200,000 okay the tax rate in Indiana is 3.1% so the most you would pay if you don't take any if no deduction whatever would be $6,300 in income tax everybody with me so far so if we know that tuition support is 38% of the general fund 38% % of your taxes is 200 or $2,414 going to tuition support okay thank you on behalf of the teachers of Avon now dollars follow the student Avon's enrollment is 01962 per of the state's enrollment and when you do that math $26.46 of your tax taxes comes back to Avon to then be divided up among the teachers remember big numbers are small and small numbers add up so this adds up big and here's the deal you're giving more money to IPS it's all based on the size of the school because it's following students right so you'll give a few pennies to the south atams of the world you're given $26 here the voucher program is the largest program in the state and $125 of your taxes is going to the voucher program so as I said before Indiana is shrinking in children that are school age but the voucher program has added 44,000 more students and even at 90% of the funding that is a dramatic increase just today a post came out on Facebook bragging how the voucher program saved $77 million what that 77 million is is the 10% that wasn't covered it they're saying if they were funded at the whole rate it doesn't save money if you're adding more kids so think about it this way here's the pie in 20091 and we've got kids all getting a you know nice chunk of pie through inflation it shrinks but we have more kids so they still should be getting a decent size of pie right there's fewer kids smaller pie the problem is we've added more kids so I don't care if it saved $77 million because you're not getting full price you are still costing Indiana on a per student basis money everybody's getting less this is like if you have a set of golf clubs and you see at the store a brand new driver on sale and you buy it and you bring it home and you put it in your golf bag and you say to your spouse honey I saved us money so again funding's a pie Pi's smaller due to inflation smaller Pie has more kids eating everybody's pie is smaller so what's your share of the cost of the voucher program eight years ago I started tracking this because I got angry that nobody could explain it to me my wife calls this my second dissertation so this is just eight years but I've here's the snippet of Hendrick County and I've each year I can calculate you take the value of the voucher program and divide it by the number of kids in the state get you a number and then you multiply your enrollment times that number that's a ballpark idea of how much money you could get right totaled up across the way Avon $47 million in the last eight years that could have been here you can see Northwest West Hendricks at 8 million South Harrison etc etc right there this year eight almost 8.3 million this year Scott could you use 8.3 million thought so now if the voucher program did not exist and we funded the 1, 6,537 students at the 09 rate relative to inflation the current budget would have more money in it than we needed half a million dollars if they had never started the voucher program and just maintained inflation education would have less money in the budget it would have saved money and we would have kept up with inflation on a per student basis this would have been $565 million or $565 per child more which is about I think it's $6 million for you guys yeah about $6 million just right there how much do you get per year on your referendum 13 yeah so half of that is unnecessary if there was no Voucher Program I just want to say in Southwest Allen our loss was almost identical to the to the size of the referendum so they could do this and it would save the state money so let's let's talk about voucher schools here in 2011 when the program started there were 291 accredited private schools these are the OG private schools their cumulative enrollments in the 15 years since then are only up 2,000 students and I say this because we keep hearing how there's this Exodus from the public schools to the private schools and anybody who lives in a big area and went to Catholic schools as I did knows it's the same families going there I went to school with them so of those schools 129 of them are actually down in enrollment there are 94 more schools today that have sprung up and the percentage of the students in those schools taking the voucher is rising so here is a this is a school in the Indianapolis area and I couldn't get the numbers bigger because I'm not that techsavvy but I will tell you at the top they're enrollment in 2011 was 528 today it's 429 since I've been tracking in 20,000 in 2018 34% of the school students there took the voucher today it's 83 so fewer kids but they're all taking the voucher here's the number of schools on there we go 291 in 2011 and then 266 s 24 of them dropped out of being accredited but then the next year 59 anybody know what happened that year the state dropped the requirement to say where the money was going in the first year to get this passed they promised that they would have the schools report how they were spending the money and in the next bium that got dropped and you'll notice 59 schools jumped into the program that number has stayed fairly consistent until the last three years and in the last three years the minimum income has gone way up and so more people are able to get in and you see a lot of schools jumping up here in the last few years some of which are Charter Schools who've lost their Charters but new schools hey so at this point it's important to say that there is today no no oversight of the $500 million that are going to these 373 schools and I want to talk now about what I learned growing up in Catholic schools we were taught to avoid the occasion of sin I used to talk about the occasion of sin keep yourself out of situations where you would be tempted to sin coupled with this was a story my dad used to always tell me my dad was a political scientist and so he studied people's motivations a lot and he would always say that locks on doors are not there to keep thieves out thieves are going to get in they're going to find a way to break in they're going to take what they're going to take the lock keeps an honest person who is tempted from doing the wrong thing this is the same thing that oversight of public schools and public tax dollars does it's a gift that keeps us honest so every two times a month when you're having your board meeting remember it's a gift that you get to go and you get to show everybody how every penny is accounted for and your capital projects plan for three years out where you plan what you're going to do with the taxpayers money three years out that's it's all there to make sure you all know what we're doing with your money right that matters this is why people get caught here pay attention to this how often it's athletic department money because that isn't supervised by the state that's a local supervision thing so the state oversight is huge talk to anybody who does the auditing for the state and they'll tell you all the people they catch because it's public record they can do that they all used to work for private firms and could never talk about anything so then they get to doing it for the government and all a sudden they're all chatty chatty chatty so remember this is a gift so I'm going to end with this the state puts out a list of the top Appropriations number one at the top is the distribution for Te tuition support the voucher program by itself would be the fifth largest expense on this list it is the fifth largest expense in the state and no one knows how it's being spent now however you feel about vouchers and whether that should exist or not if we get to the point where I'm where we're all fine with that that's fine fund it fund it and make sure they have to account for it that's it that's a conservative hooer opinion and I don't see why they can't do it but this is it and there is active lobbying against this by the private schools that is the end of my talk so thank you anybody have any [Applause] questions any questions yes sir Larry dor Larry dor yep funny at the same time right yeah yeah supposedly one of them was locked up in South Bend somewhere I don't know but I I remember hearing that too so yeah any any any other questions yes ma'am it's like family 400,000 or $400,000 yeah yeah it's it's it's a it's based off of the federal poverty line and I think it's 400 time it's 300 300 times that I think it's 300 times the federal poverty level right yeah and how much of your taxes actually come here right um well the statute is being used to say well we're a private entity and you can't can't do that uh that's a good question um I think you know I remember growing up in the church bulletin there was a listing of the funds that seemed very uh sparse and and was just kind of General nothing like what you get two two meetings a month the gift that Scott gets twice a month um here so I I I think there's a lot of not wanting to you know yeah you'd have to ask those I I I don't know five well why did they you have to ask the legislators yeah yeah Lobby is for the private school schools are there hard um there's a lot of money behind the choice stuff and a lot of it makes its way to to campaign coffers and so that that just is and and to in I want to give a a a a break to some of the legislators if you're on committees that are not education you're dealing with complex crap thrown at you all the time yourself and so you are dependent on the people in other committees giving you information and being honest with you about it there may be a communication breakdown there um I a lot of people actually don't know and they will spout things out which is over the eight years I've been doing this every time I get one of those spouts I start investigating and I end up with an answer that they were not right but um yeah it's not a separate fund it's tuition support it doesn't save the state you've added more kids to a smaller pie it just the math I'm sorry that's it's just not true and they can never explain to you how it is when they're like the 77% there's no math behind that claim but I I just know enough to know that's what they're talking about is the 77 million is that 10% of the voucher program that because they're only at 90% the private schools the the private private schools those are all I don't know if any of them are for-profit I know like canbury does not take the voucher in for Wayne I don't think Park tutor does down here I don't think they do I think it's primarily religious based schools um and they have a tax exemption and yes to be ACC to get the voucher you have to be accredited and to be accredited you have to take the testing right and take some of that stuff but um no no no because they're voluntarily doing it no no we just have to take they just have to take the test yeah yeah but here here's the thing is no school is better than another school based on the type of school it is all right public school is not better than a charter it's not better than a private an individual public school might be or the individual charter school might be but in general what is a good education I mean you know it's Community it's all the things that I'm sorry this seems to be kind of cutting into but yes no right because the argument shifted away from poor kids getting getting away from Bad schools to families wanting to have a choice in the type of education and we should all have a choice well I mean it'd be nice to be able to pay tuition and have a boat on the weekend yes ma'am I'm not even messing with that that's a that's a okay sgo these are the other ways that money comes into the into the private schools that's not tax dollars that's tax credit and so that doesn't even make it into the coffers you can get a tax credit for making donations to Scot scholarship granting organizations that's the sgo and then that money goes to pay scholarships for students to go to private schools that is I don't even know where to how to start looking for that but I guarantee you there's big money there's big money that I know Karen Francisco when she was the editor at the Journal Gazette was was trying to track that down and there have been people who've been trying to do that but those are essentially the the statute you created them but they run as separate little their own little foundations and it's a sweet gig I'm not sure what the credit is but I how much it is 50% up to amount or yeah I don't know there you go you can start your dissertation um other question was there another one over here or yeah this is this is just the general fund this is just the tuition support that's all I've been tracking because it's to me was the one that was like it was hitting me that sort of does but it's a lot harder to track down y it comes when I fill my taxes out there's the deductions for different credits and if you make a donation to one you can claim a credit yeah is it yeah so it's not yeah but either way it's a it's it's credit so it's not a deduction it's a credit so if your tax bill was 6,300 and the credit is $200 your tax bill is now $6,100 a lot of the universities have them I mean if you donated you donate to Purdue or any of those places you get to deduct I think it's up to $ thousand dollar as a credit or something like that so private schools uh in a geographic area will have a public school as what's called an Lea a local education agent um and if there is a student who is eligible for title or for um uh special ed services that funding comes through the L a and then the Lea hires the AIDS in that school to take care of that we've tried for years to Lobby the legislator to let them handle their own special ed and they always go down and argue no we don't want to I I don't know why but I'm just telling you what I have seen Scott can verify this it's the it's the same and when I was in Southwest we had four private schools in our district one refused to take any government dollars period it was great I'd go down there they'd sign off a paper I'd say hey Gods speed see you later the other ones all wanted every penny they could get and they would would sign up and so and that's interesting because their expenses have to come through your board and often let's just say they they are not used to the same level of scrutiny about what should be claimed and what shouldn't be claimed so so yeah just [Applause] different so if if any of you want to talk to Dr Phil he'll be around for some depending on how many questions you have thank you so much my pleasure my pleasure go Orioles go Orioles minutes thank you my pleasure yeah I'd be happy to by the way that's your and that's mine just so you know I mean there's no idential numbers now you done it for me so are you PowerPoint or are you PowerPoint I will convert this and just email it to you can oh yeah so we made it thank you for your help whoops e e e all right I didn't look at my clock so I'm going to trust it's been five minutes I think most of us are back so we'll get we'll get back together here going again so uh Phil and I I did not I didn't uh see Phil's slides before uh hand so but you there is some overlap so he uh this is helpful what they asked me to share with you is some updates on some of the bills that we're watching really closely um and I've got a little bit of background information that's going to dovetail really nicely with what Dr DS shared so a few um updates this was the best visual I could come up with um I really uh and I liked his V I like the fire hose I may switch to that one um I believe our schools are a lighthouse for a lot of our families and a lot of our kids and um um a lot of us move to our community for the schools how many moved to Avon to to have your kid and Avon schools we did my family did we were already in Hendricks County but I wanted to move to Avon for the schools and that now my old my youngest is a senior so we've gone all the way through Avon schools I said I was going to set my timer hold on otherwise I'll start rambling um they've got me yep um so one of the things that I feel in this legislative session is the waves are intense th this legislative session is probably one of the most critical I think uh probably of my career not a superintendent of my teaching career 25 years so there are a lot of bills being considered that are waves crashing on the lighthouse so I often feel my job is to be the calm so I want to keep our teachers calm I want to keep some of you have reached out to me and have said what about this bill what about that bill and I go it's early most of them are going to die and I I really try to be the voice of calm this legislative session is going to be really intense so all of us have to be geared up because the the waves are strong my strategy for coping is I often uh go out into classrooms and I I was today was one of those days where I was like all right I am stressed the waves are intense so by the end of the day I visited four classroom at Hickory Elementary and I felt way better about about things but when I go see what our kids are doing what our teachers are doing they're incredible and so our job as advocates is to try to stem all those waves that are coming at us nationally from the state all these different things so that our teachers can be amazing our kids can be amazing and uh the things that are happening in our schools that just make make me so proud as a parent as a community member and as a superintendent so one of the things that we have really focused on and we've got two school board members here we have continued to drop our tax rate so one of the things Dr DS was talking about is all the local entities now are fighting over the 1% right it's very easy and you'll often hear the legislators say well schools just keep their their tax rate steady they just want to gobble up more and more maybe that's true but it's not true in Avon we have been dropping our tax rate steadily so you can see even with all the construction that we've done as a growing School District High School project new Middle School all the work that's happening right now to serve our kids better we've been able to drop our debt service rate 21% and our referendum rate 32% so we are continually trying to be good stewards of the tax dollar and serve our kids in a grow Community as effectively as we can this is our tax rates going back to 2011 so 2011 is as Dr down was Downs was saying that's kind of when the state changed the funding formula for schools you can see our tax rate spiked in 2019 the first year of the referendum our tax rate this year is the lowest it's ever been since 2011 so we have continually tried to drop that tax rate over time um and serve a growing student population Dr DS was talking about uh per student funding this is a chart that we've often used you some of you have seen it when Sheila has shared it this does not include some of the special ed funding so these numbers are a little bit lower than what he shared this is just the base funding that we receive for uh our students you can see that in that 2015 to 2019 time frame on average we were only getting about 1% increase per year from the state I remember and uh he said Dr hornman is watching online in 2017 Dr hornman and I went down and we met with Senator Ryan michler he is still in the Senate one of the most powerful people in the Senate and we went through our funding challenges in Avon schools and Dr michler or Ryan michler at the end of that conversation looked at Maggie said Maggie if you want better than what the state's providing you're going to have to do a referend that was the solution you you're going to have to do a referendum that was pivotal for us because Maggie and I came back and in the car were like oh my gosh do we need to do a referendum do you how are we going to do it I mean it was a a huge conversation but when the state was only funding us at 1% well below inflation we knew we needed to do more now you can see in the last few years funding got better better than inflation and then in 2025 we're back down to that 1% increase again so I wanted to talk a little bit about yes sir yes well because when you add in the special ed that got it a little bit higher yep so I wanted to talk a little bit about some of the bills that we're watching because several of you have reached out and said should we be talking about this one some of you might be coming to a coffee that we're going to have this week with some of our legislators so these are some of the bills that I'm watching the most closely one is uh 101 remember if um in the house and in the Senate the bills that are ranked 1 through 10 are the most important so 101 is always the most important bill from the house and that's the budget it's the number one bill we haven't seen it yet but what they're saying is it will have 2% increases for K12 for the next two years by the way I did I do have copies here so don't feel like you have to write this down uh you can grab these when you leave if you want some of these um we will eventually get to that run that Phil was talking about that breaks it down to Avon specifically I'm always really skeptical when they s send say on average 2% because I know a chunk of that's going to go to vouchers or to other schools so I'm always looking at the the Avon run and we just haven't seen that yet unclear what the financial impact will be of universal vouchers uh Phil talked about that on each of these slides I tried to give I originally called these talking points and then I said okay some of these are pretty biased so I labeled them windom's talking points uh because these are this is how I would Advocate but you need to decide maybe you disagree with me and that's okay let's have that conversation but I wanted you to at least know how I'm thinking about some of these things you can decide if this is the right talking point for you but this these are the talking points for me we've always said our request of the legislators is fund to inflation inflation right now is about 3% so if they fund anything less than 3% that means we we are not keeping Pace we're going to have to make Cuts uh we continue to see significant needs and special education and multilingual education for more funding uh fully fund textbooks curricular material materials that is something the state took over said hey parents you don't have to pay those textbook fees anymore wasn't that awesome that was great except they still have not funded that to schools so schools are eating the cost of that so that's $483,000 this year for Avon schools because the state isn't funding it um and then as Phil said um my talking point to our legislators is always I am not afraid of school choice I'll put our schools against anybody in a competition I am not afraid of competition if we're all planned by the same rules so if there's going to be increase in voucher funding I think it ought to be tied to accountability as we've already talked about um 1002 is a bill um that is about deregulation a couple of you have emailed me about this bill this is a pretty positive Bill representative sterwald has been working on this the last couple years we actually had conversations with him a couple years ago about this and what he is so good at is kind of seeing the long game um and it didn't lead to anything in the last session but this time it's 10:2 which means it's the second most important bill in the house um and so really what it's trying to do is remove some of the regulations for public or for schools this would be a great opportunity to thank representative sterwald we often don't take the time to thank them for the good things they do because we're always saying we want we want we want um there are some concerns in this bill um so I put them in here removing requirements for the state superintendent of Public Instruction the charters there's some Charter School language that's concerning um but by and large the focus is on reducing administrative burden that's always great my talking point back is always whatever regulations are left ought to apply to all I always bring my prop This is Indiana Public School law it is very fine print I'm this is not like the large print edition this is small print so if they could reduce this that would be fantastic I've got it all memorized yeah um but in my opinion every school that takes public tax dollars ought to have to abide by every part of this and that's just not the way the system works um okay Senate bill one this means this is the most important bill in the Senate property tax relief and it is basically Governor Braun's propo proposed budget and the Senate uh put it out as Senate bill one I watched Governor Bron's State of the State last week and I put this quote directly from his speech all governments need to do more with a little less this is from the State website of the impact of Senate bill one to HRI County they don't have it broken apart by individual taxing entities it's just the total for the county the total for Hendrick County and the first year 2026 is $44 million to local government so that's your roads your police your fire your library your schools year three goes up to $67 million so we have not been able to get a uh list of the impact to Avon schools the estimate that we have been told would be cost equivalent to the entire transportation department and half of our custodial department so when they say local governments you got got to tighten your belt local governments you got to do more with a little less we're not talking a little less we're not talking tighten your belt we're talking massive implications for uh all governmental entities but uh specifically for us so we have heard there's another version of Senate bill one that might be coming out this week so we're hopeful that this was the worst case and maybe things will get a little bit better in the next round this is the biggest wave that's crashing on that l Lighthouse uh because this this is drastic if you've been in some of Sheila's Finance presentations you know every year uh because of tax caps going back to what Dr DS was saying on average there's about $6 million that we don't collect you know he was showing those tax bills there's about $6 million that we don't collect because of property tax caps over the course of of the last 15 years that's over $100 million that we have not been able to purchase the bus do the repairs that we need to do this is the system we've figured out how to live in this system but there's no way to absorb an additional amount as significant as what Senate bill one proposes the other thing I wanted to talk about is Senate bill one and Senate Bill 8 I'm going to look at my time I have three minutes uh we were talking about referendums and Dr down said they they uh emphasize legislators have often emphasized if you need more ask your community for a referendum and then they make it harder to do a referendum so these two bills Senate bill one and Senate Bill 8 both talk about referendum timing so you have on your table our latest referendum progress report so if you don't have this take it with you because this is a great thing to carry around so if somebody says what does that school do with those referendum dollars this can tell you exactly how many teachers we fund how many clubs we fund how many support staff we fund the front page really tells you everything that we do uh with the dollar then the back page really talks about some of the impacts Avon High School being National Blue Ribbon School one of the only one in the in P the only public high school in 2023 um talking about uh over $3.8 million our kids earned in scholarships because they're able to take more rigorous classes um at the at Avon High School more AP classes those kinds of things so this is a great document to have to summarize the impact of the referendum both of these bills though are re would require a school district to do a referendum in November it would eliminate the primary as a possibility for a referendum so I want to explain that to you so right now our referendum was passed in May of 2018 so we would need to do uh the school board would need to decide if we're going to do a renewal in May of 2026 that's eight years that's what state law has said all along the reason we went in May 2018 is the reason a lot of schools go in May because that coincides with the school calendar we knew if that referendum passed in May of 2018 we were adding teachers that next school year if that referendum would have failed we were cutting teachers that summer that was that was what we were going to have to do May coincides with the school calendar November does not coincide with the school calendar so in this bottom half you can see I said well what if we had to do a November 26 referendum and what if it failed that would be horrible for our school district but what if November 2026 would be the election December of 2026 our referendum funding is done because property tax funding comes at a calendar year so at the end of of 2026 that referendum funding is gone well we still have a half of a school year that we have to pay for those teachers and those staff that are on the referendum and we have no money coming in to do that so that's about a $7 million impact state law indicates if you're going to reduce teachers you're going to eliminate positions you have to notify them from May 1 to July 1 that does not match up with a November referendum so this is why the you know they keep saying the legislators keep saying there's more turnout in November well that may be but November referendum does not match up May is what matches up with a school calendar and with state law as we're making decisions about Staffing for the next school year this is another hug huge wave that we've got to be articulating to our legislators so my talking points for Senate bill one um I love your visual of the map so I'm going to steal that from you um Indiana already has some of the lowest property taxes in the country uh we are currently not collecting about $6 million a year because of tax caps my talking point to our legislators is always local control the people who are most closely elected by their constituents wrap it up wendam for a conservative state that favors local government the people most closely elected by their constituents are the school board if somebody doesn't like what's happened in our schools they can go talk to them at Kroger they know their email addresses they're going to see them at the soccer game that's the power of local control not decisions being made from the big government which in this scenario is the state so I I always advocate for more local control they know their communities the best they know the the the needs of their constituents the best Senate Bill 8 I'm not this uh basically uh reiterates what I already put on Senate bill one but it has some language uh about the November referendum it also requires a gap year so if a referendum fails you have to wait two years before you can go back to your community again so again trying to make it harder to be successful um then the last bill I wanted to highlight is again about Schoolboard um this is Senate Bill 287 and 1230 this would require Schoolboard candidates to declare a party um stick to stick to the notes Scott schools are nonpartisan and um one of the things that is a a point that I didn't think about with this is it Al this also limits who can run for school board because federal law says if you are a federal employee you can't run for a partisan office so right now if you're a federal employee you can run for the school board because you don't have to declare um but we the focus of what we're doing in schools is not partisan it's about what's best for kids it's about what's best for our community trying to boil it down to an r a d or an I just does not capture what we're what our school board is so great at doing which is providing great leadership great governance for our schools so I listed here what I would suggest are some calls to action I don't think these are like three alarm all alarm fire call to action do it tonight those will come uh but these are things if when we're talking about a meeting with our Representatives this week uh or if you are so inclined to reach out to some of these individuals that have sponsored these bills these are the contact information for Senator Holdman Senator Clark Senator Buchanan um one of the things they've said is that sometimes these bills they'll do kind of a straw pole of the Senators so while Senator Clark hasn't been asked to vote on this bill yet because it hasn't come to the floor of the senate in a caucus they might say how are you thinking about partisan Schoolboard elections and if nobody has said to him what what's there concerns about this then he may not have enough information to to advocate for that on a straw poll even if it hadn't gone to the floor of the Senate yet so these are these would be great talking points on these three bills um just to to kind of reach out and share your opin there will come a time in this session where we send out the alert please call today please do this today um that will come and it's probably going to come multiple times because there's so many bills that they're considering that are going to have drastic implications on us but we couldn't do it without all of you and I really think about when Maggie started the advocate she said she knew she couldn't do it alone they hear from superintendent all the time down there they hear from lobbyists all the time down here they've often said they don't hear from the normal people so we need the moms and the dads and the grandmas and the grandpas and and the aunts and uncles and the community members to say here's what a here's what public education means to us here's what our schools mean to us in our community um and and be able to advocate for that so it's not just always coming from from a few people that they hear from all the time so thanks for all that you do and I think I turn it over to R yes it's in the top 10 it's Senate Bill 8 so if it's in the top 10 there's a real passion for that bill to have support if it's in the top um well no but I I always look at the number of the bill because the number of the bill tells you a lot and the other thing that we have seen in previous years some of the most concerning legislation in previous years has come out of the house and then it got better when it went to the Senate the Senate has has helped us more these some of these most concerning Bills starting in the Senate concerns me because we're going to then have to rely on the house to to um help with some of those and we've got to you know I I appreciate representative sterwald he always always listens he works behind the scenes very well um to help us so that's where we're just going to have to be able to um leverage those those relationships because in the past we really needed the Senate to help us quite a bit these bills starting there concerns me oh yes so I a senate in the group me if you're in this year's class I know I got my mailer from Senator Clark um they have said before they only get less than 1% response to those mailers so every time I get one I try to take a picture make my kids fill it out uh that that are registered to vote um you know and my wife who doesn't care anything about uh politics I'm like you got to fill this out sometimes the questions really frustrate me because they are very slanted questions um they always have an open-ended at the end and actually Senator clarks's I thought was one of the better ones because it allowed you to prioritize so you could say I think education is number one or I think education is number 10 you could move them around I'd never seen a survey that was that way so I felt like his was a little bit more um user friendly but there's always an open-ended that and they they look at those um and so that's a really important thing to complete yep yep very much yep Y and he's asking really good questions Senator Clark is asking really good questions uh you know he as a new Senator he's drinking from a fire hose too everybody's coming at these these representatives for lots of different things and so I appreciate Senator Clark that he is asking questions to try to make sure he understands as much as he can about all these different issues that are coming before them so if you have questions about the legislative session don't hesitate to text me email me um usually right now I'm saying it's okay uh you know we're we're tracking this but like I said here come March things will start to get really active so all right R all right e all right so I'm just going to go through I don't know how many of you were here when um Dr hornman spoke to us um last session but this just kind of goes through some of the points that she talked about um and things that she in the F referendum that we had um and I mean again we're all a team and we just have to band together as a team essentially um and the the biggest thing is to be civil in all of your you know encounters with people if you um you know encounter someone that you think is giving you misinformation um you know frequently you can just say you know what I'm not sure that that's right and then that's when I just text Dr Windham and I'm hey Dr Windham can I have this information or you know he is very good about giving out his cell phone number and you can have them text him directly um I'm sure all of you are on some sort of social media and we know how kind of out of control that kind of gets so um I try not to engage in any of that as much as I possibly can every once in a while I just you know have to say well that's not exactly true and then that's all I say but and I move on from there so um okay so just some other things that you can do um there are some um breakfasts with the legislators that they have um I know February 17th March 17th and April 28th there are free breakfast that you can go to um they're from um 7 to8 in the morning you have to sign up just because it's apparently a very large um Gathering so but if you're interested in doing something like that um that's definitely something that we would recommend then um once Dr IND Windam starts sending out the call to actions you'll get an email from me um and it'll probably go out on the group meting text that we have as well um and usually when you get something like that it needs to be done fairly quickly so um whether it be a phone call I think they phone calls are usually the best at that stage um and they'll have somebody just answering the phone I always say I'm an orial advocate and this is my concern and they'll pass it on um for you so if we can get all those phone calls and get them inundated that would be a a positive thing for our district so um if you want more information um you can go to the Indiana Coalition for public education website they have a lot of really good talking points and a lot of effective um information on there that just supports public education in general so um and then my last little bit is um my other hat in life is I'm an occupational therapist and I own my own business and so just to kind of give you an idea of how crazy things get and how there are no checks and balances is that um there's something called the um education savings account scholarship account and um for families that may homeschool their kids they and the children have an IEP um they can have this Esa which is just a money attached to a child essentially um and then you use that money for therapy for your child or any type of um School needs that the child may have um you can actually buy a big screen TV and say that you need it because that goes along with your child needing education um so I actually provide services with the esa account um from my own business and what I have seen is um astonishing to say the least um it is the only service that I provide that no one has ever asked for an evaluation no one has ever asked for a therapy progress note um I actually have been paid twice for one visit and called the state and said hey I got double paid and I don't know what to do and they said well you can write us a check or you know it's already out of their fund and we don't really know what to do once it's already out of their fund so um the other thing that I found very interesting was that this is through the treasury Department it's not through anything to do with education um so it but it has zero checks and balances and so again when you talk about voucher programs it's I I live that like real life I'm like this is astonishing I mean I'm not even a provider for insurance and I have insurance companies that call me and say hey I need this and I need this and I need this and I have never as a medical professional seen anything with no checks or balances like that so just and Things Grow exponentially this program started out just for people who had IEPs now it includes their siblings um we just got an email as providers saying that there are 600 people on the waiting list for this program so it's another program that the state is growing and growing and growing um the other thing that I am concerned about too is is that um when you talk about special education um there's a big threat to um ABA services for kids so they're they are taking things away from even those kids so um so it's you know it's a very volatile moment in in in the medical community as well so all right Valerie yeah so if you're in the well if you're in the public school your services your your therapy services are tied to the public school oh yeah the therapist in school oh yeah yeah yeah oh definitely yeah yeah thank you Vicki so I'm gonna talk a little bit about just kind of what advocacy looks like on the ground how do we engage in our community to best advocate for our public schools and the first thing that you can do is be informed information is our absolute best weapon think about how much information you got here tonight that you didn't know $26 $26 I had no clue think about the shrink flation of that pie I didn't know that be informed the second one is be the go-to person when somebody has a question you know what I got the answer for that be the subject matter expert on all things public education whether it is public education funding or if it's what's happening in our schools or hey did you know that they're cutting out this program at no they're not really it's just your kid know your audience know your audience going back to Vicky's um comment about social media not everybody is ready to hear the message don't engage say your peace and move on or know that no matter what you say they aren't going to hear it so move on because if you engage and then they engage and then it escalates who looks bad because I promise you they already look bad we have a brand The Advocates don't act up we are positive and so when we engage who looks bad and it's not just The Advocates it's the school corporation Dr wendham looks bad Sheila looks bad bus driver who has to have all of our kids on his bus looks bad no where to engage the socials ain't the place the unsocial media is not the place it's the conversation at Kroger where it's oneon-one where I can look you in the eyes it's the conversation in the church parking lot it's at the soccer field where you have the opportunity to actually get a message across to convey legitimate good information when in doubt ask don't just pull it out of the air I have texted Dr wendam I have emailed Dr wendam I have called Dr wendam I'm sure he's like oh here she comes again when people have come to me with questions the day that we got the snow somebody's kids didn't get picked up and somebody asked me hey why didn't the school bus pick up my kid I don't know but I tell I can tell you who does know why don't you talk to the director of transportation and they can give you an answer I promise you he would rather give you an answer than you think that he has something against your kid and the message I got back was we really didn't mean to not get your kid but we were short on drivers and we couldn't get into some neighborhoods and we couldn't get the information out ask the person that knows and then the last one remember it is absolutely okay to disagree it is not okay to disagree disagreeably it is perfectly okay to say I'm sorry I don't agree with you I don't see it that way and walk away because we're real protective of this brand because you know it'd be horrible if Dr wendam called representative stalt and he said o do you know what I heard about the Advocates truly we're kind of like EF Hutton when we talk people listen now I'm I just told you how old I was I am let's keep that up it's tough times in public education when my family moved here 22 years ago my husband was an Army recruiter and see he had access to every single test score of every single high school in this nation and we moved where we moved so our kid could go to Avon and I have that one's gone and we had another one 18 years later and he is thriving at Avon High School and he says I don't think I could do well someplace else because this teacher talked to me and this teacher took care of me and this teacher listened to me starting with his kindergarten teacher what we do matters what they do in those schools matter and we have to protect that and how we do it is by drinking from this fire hose of information because it is a lot asking the right people the right questions at the right time and when those call to actions come out answer them all that wrap up uh um quick outline of future goals that we have we need see all the information that all our different classes are getting we need to get that out and we're looking at newsletters we are uh thinking of a newslet subcommittee which actually Valerie and Ola Nik is um on that committee as well uh I think she's watching virtually thank you both and we are looking forward to something happening there our website is a work in process we we actually have my son put together a little website yesterday uh you can check it out it's it's totally working process nothing uh uh major in there social media we have uh one person doing social media right now and uh we could really use some help and for that we have volunteers who have actually come forward which is great um the intelligence gathering data Gathering and research monitoring education use so all the data that is floating out there on different websites uh we are planning to get all that if if and this is where when I sent out the email to the uh founding Advocates we really could use your guidance and help in in kind of finding people who can actually do that uh Dr Phil had some Amazing Ideas we'll share with the whole group um for for the next referendum you all had a successful referendum on your watch we are determined not to have a failed referendum on our watch what will happen we don't know we'll see uh we are thinking of the GB meeting on a regular basis on annual basis where we can all get together and discuss have you know um good discussions and and ex exchange ideas good speakers uh this is one idea which actually Valerie came up with uh PTO we need to get our message out to schools so we are looking at collaborating with cedar and um uh River birs and uh the P presidents are here thank you both for coming really appreciate it and we actually have a class member 2025 class member who's the PTO I think the president of maple so we'll have three PTO that will oh Amy aren't oh Sher okay oh Cheryl oh I okay all right good old Cheryl so yeah we have these in inroads into the PTO so we'll be working on that um legislative breakfast like Vicki mentioned at school board meetings we started our uh myself and vice our Todd singer Vice President we attended our first ever legislative breakfast it was quite an experience um not many questions you know not many questions but it was good to hear them and get some of their viewpoints it was really eye opening um and one fact which was shocking was Indiana is the number one in the country number one number five in human trafficking did you all know that nothing to do with schools but I I that was astounding which is um and then we are working to uh we're working on alliances with other like-minded organizations ICP is is uh organization we are uh working on in fact class of 2025 members March 6th um Kathy F Ros will be here to talk to us so she's the president of the ICP and uh probably watching us virally coming up F 17th there's a um ICB event and uh they have invited us to come and maybe talk very uh briefly about orial Advocates because they like that model and ICP is trying to get this model to other school districts and which is great and so we are we are walking in the footsteps of Science and we want to keep that work up and Spread spread this model to other school districts so they can also achieve the same goal and that is saving public education Equitable public education for public schools private schools Charter Schools they should all have the same standards like Dr Windam always says that is what we are working towards um so if you can come great um any ideas and suggestions that yes awesome yeah you do amazing work and absolutely thank you for bringing that up any other suggestions ideas Sarah and uh our two school board members I'm sorry I Jennifer that's right Jennifer there any ideas how how we can help you with your jobs and I mean support pressure um I I think you covered it well by saying the accurate information and getting it out because there's a lot of um parents and taxpayers that are not connected to our schools for whatever reason um and so we need to make sure they have that information because it does impact them they may think it doesn't but I just want to say the whole participate you know participate in whatever you can whatever you're available to do we as advocates we haven't gone to any school board meetings it's like wait a second that's not right so we'll be doing that but you're right Sarah that is something where uh the the gold cart for seniors and and you know that's an we have neighbors who are not don't have kids going to uh School the A1 schools but I have to talk to them about the gold cut I didn't know about that was Dr Windam said so the without Education Without education of any type the communities will not Thrive will not Thrive think about what happens when you don't have good education you know kids don't come out with productive degrees or or experience what do you think happens they end up doing things that we all don't want see them doing so education is important but it's public private Charter religious it has to be all under the same standards everyone should be under the same same standards and accountability is something we are we demanding that that is absolutely nonsense that that happens any anyone else I want to say just stay stay on top of those um bills about the timing of referendums and anything related to restricting referendum um because it's happening because we have been successful and um um so make that make noise now for those get um your opinions out about that immediately and stay on top of it and watch like watch if they proceed in committee and all that anyone else yes now that I had a moment to think about you know what else when we start to gather members for the political action committee for the reference R renewal please volunteer do not be intimidated there's no job too small um everyone in this room would be wonderful we will need all the help we can get so start thinking about other people too like we we just have to we've got to organize and we we've got to get this ped so anyone else well thank you all thank you so much for coming thank you for sharing the evening I know two hours is a lot of time especially for the class of 2025 you have another 2hour session coming up on the 18th so amazing all those who showed up from class of 2025 thank you so much and all the prior Advocates and you're always an advocate but pre pandemic advoc thank you we we really could use your help and we will be calling on on all of you so
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at the latest on Thursday and doing so has pushed a whole lot of approvals and work up in the up in the time frame um just to get them ready for that Thursday morning and so um the answer to your question is yes but um it will cause a lot of things to not be approved on the normal cite that they are that they that they would be otherwise maybe better with the four weeks between board meetings that we're going to have you know that we started with this year the delay from January's board meeting got pushed back a week so we had one fewer week in there but when we start getting four weeks um you know it it could be possible but it it was a lot of work and thank Mrs Chrisman for and everyone else who gets the all of the content that comes to you um to to us in time to have it reviewed and to you by Thursday morning I have a motion and a second any more I have additional questions my bad uh line item uh where is it I is that the standard Cadence now for buses I noticed we got three general education buses to looks like four specialty buses is that what the G is that should that be the I think we pulled that one out though it's okay we're on my bad I'm sorry okay well I'll I'll hold the question okay you're good okay uh Mr mcken is here also He's our transportation director so he he can answer additional questions that that you may have um the answer is no for the most part to your question so um it does follow our bus replacement plan yes um you may recall we have a goal of having no buses older than 12 years old so that follows with that U what Mr mcken and his team have done have entered produced um as scheduled they you know this has been a plan for for a while now of replacing those activity buses that you see here on your um which is not our typical Gaines but was planned um he can give you more detail but those activity buses um typically there're 14 passenger white buses which you'll approve tonight are actually uh two different types of activity buses um but they they run for girls golf they run for students that are under kimy vento that we're transporting between counties um he has a team that that runs students to Indianapolis every day for um specialy schools um and they are um they're a need of replacement so um if that answers your question right we have a motion in a second for seven a through H and J and K uh all those in favor please say I I all those opposed please say nay motion carries 70 and I would make a motion that we approve item 7i approval of bus purchases second thank you Mr Nan and Mr Glick I will abstain from the vote all those in oh any further comments or questions on 7 I I already took my out turn so it worked we're got okay okay great um all those in favor of approving item 7even I please say I I all is opposed please say a motion carries 6 Z evening uh the five Human Resources recommendations this evening consist of one appointment three resignations and one leave of absence I request that you please approve the Personnel recommendations as presented I move that we approve line items A8 Alpha through Bravo this time sorry Mr Glick do have a second Mr major any questions or comments if we are going to date a and b there are no additional Human Resources recommendations for this evening all those in favor of approving Human Resources recommendations A and B as presented please say I I I all those opposed say n motion carries s z thank you okay board input and review uh Mr major we'll start with you again yeah I would like to uh just congratulate Mrs udy the East girls wrestling Southside spell Bowl team I think everybody will probably say the same thing there um the big one I wanted to talk about is I think we have a future Hall of Famer uh in in waiting here in Mrs Haynes uh Mrs Haynes was ultimately the leader of the robo Rodeo event that was held at East uh just a week or so ago and uh that that event had probably somewhere between 60 and 70 teams I can't remember the exact number um from what I had heard I'd overheard somebody say that it was the second largest uh robotics event in the state of Indiana uh they would have had probably the title for largest if they hadn't had four or five teams back out one of the other things I don't know Dr Phillips if you heard anything different but I think I even heard that it wasn't just the second largest in the state but it might have been second largest in the country so I don't I don't know where we stand with that but it was really a a a great event uh I was able to be there all day uh saw a lot of cool things happening that the kids were doing lots of different designs a lot of creativity uh throughout that I think we only had like four or five teams missed their their queue uh when you have 60 to 70 teams and they're going multiple rounds uh there were there were several hundred of events that occurred during that day so it was very well put on like to thank those at East uh from all of the administrators all the way down to the janitors that had to help uh clean up the mess at the end for putting on such a great welcoming event for not just Columbus but for those in the state that traveled here to participate so great event and I would encourage uh other others out there to volunteer for those events if you have the opportunity so thank you Mrs haes and all the volunteers Mr major I'm just going to jump bandwagon there uh two things I just got stopped um on Saturday by Mr Wolford Co coach Wolford at Central who said the at the event this Saturday the fifth team from Central qualified for state so that means every stem robotics team at Central has now qualified for the state event and then also um I want to because Nick and his team um presented tonight just add the fact that the technology U group and Mrs Haynes has told me the same they could not have done what they did without our Tech folks being a part of that throughout the district even not just with competitions but um you know throughout the course of the year so it's really become like you said the size and scope of how quickly this has grown it's become something that really takes a lot of resources and I'm I'm proud that we have those resources for our kids I'll just jump on the bandwagon too so kudos to to Mrs Hines and to uh Mrs Harden I thought it was a great event I got to volunteer upstairs and make robot circuits as part of a senior project at the mini St stem lab that day and it was really remarkable to see the number of students and then their younger siblings who were being exposed to to that those types of activities so great day great great day so and congratulations to Easton Southside this was a great meeting I Echo the comments of Mr major and Miss Lloyd in addition I'd like to point out some Honors that uh some of our students high school students uh have received in recent weeks the Indiana All State honor band has been announced and from Columbus North High School there are three members of that allate band Luke Hensley on trombone Santi Duna on tuba and Cameron shoot on percussion in addition the Indiana Jazz Educators Association has announced Its All State Jazz Ensemble with from Columbus North High School will include Grant Barker in the percussion section on drums so congratulations to those students and uh the U directors who make that possible the recognition is going um I wanted to this is near and dear to my heart the Columbus FFA novice and Senior teams which includes members from East North Central and Norths side um um place first place in parliamentary procedure um and they advaned to the state on February 8th for Robert's Rule of Order which again is near and dear to my heart this is not simple um and it's pretty amazing that these kiddos have mastered mastered this at the state level so look forward to them going forward um congratulations to um one of the things we approved for field trips tonight was a trip for the Columbus North cheerleader ERS to the National Finals in Florida so congratulations and best of luck to them um also this was in our Friday notes but um commendations and congratulations to six bcsc teachers that um qualified for 15,000 I think it's $15,000 Lily teacher creativity grants um Chad Russel and Amilia Shaw both from North High School Brett Finley from CSA Lincoln Christa Reen and arish Spurgeon from Northside Middle School and Mandy Keel from Southside Elementary and um last a story a book Buddy Story I do book buddies on Monday at Schmidt and and I always start off one of the nice things about doing Monday you can start off with a conversation was how was your weekend how was your day going well today one of my book buddies she said I am so excited because today is stem day and I get to go to this my stem class and she seed to tell me all the exciting things that they're doing in stem and um just confirmed to me that it's working our our focus on stem is getting to the kids and and she was just so excited about what they're doing uh I start this off with uh recalling item 7g which is the purple star schools um as a service member uh means a lot to me uh so for those of you who are in the room that may experience this or those who are going to watch this my phone is always available my email is always available if I don't know the answer I know somebody that might have the answer so use me as a resource to help with you finding your resources um next over the weekend was uh wrestling sectionals this weekend is wrestling regionals down in Jeffersonville north and east qualifi quite a few and we'll uh continue their efforts through the state tournament and uh girls basketball start sectionals I believe tomorrow so uh East North will be competing this week so that that's going to be good and then swimming as well so uh lot lot on the agenda athletically and uh lastly I had the pleasure of assisting in the Parkside steam event which is a stem night and probably had easily 75 kids show up and had four or five different stations all with little trinket uh uh experiments and stuff and everybody seemed to be pretty heavily engaged and having a lot of fun so that was pretty cool to to see that the downside about being at the end is you just start Crossing off all your things that you were going to talk about but it's okay I I want to Echo everything that we we discussed I also want to kind of give a special shout out to Mrs udy as we were looking through her file as part of the committee and not to share too much but the number of students that wrote on her behalf and the number of community members was overwhelming and um a lot of it also is she was also one of the key leads for the longest time I believe at Central for the DC trip which is memorable for many um going through so I just want to re-echo that congratulations it was not a very difficult decision to select the hardest part is just picking only one um and so that was definitely a great experience um and then the other thing was so I have two daughters that are also in book buddy so I thought I'd bring that up as a lot of the book buddy mentors are getting them ready for testing and getting them prepared one of mine's third grade and one second grade so both at that critical year um and so I just want to shout out and say thank you to all them I believe I saw Indiana jump to number six nationally for uh reading by the way so big shoes to fill this year we we were a big part of that I'm gonna say that Dr hack's not here but giving her credit for that and I'll just add uh thanks to Nancy Milpa and her team for the food for the reception this evening um if you uh before you leave go out through the kitchen and grab something on your way out if there's any leftovers left and then also welcome to Asher who's been helping with sound back here the last couple of meetings um and thanks to Nick and his team I don't know if you noticed but the big speakers aren't in the room anymore and so this is it's been a year and a half they've been trably talking about what might be best for this room so um new mounted cameras so when you watch this it's probably going to look a little differently and hopefully sound a little differently and then um just on a personal level you know she's gone already but uh could not be prouder to call Carla yudy a colleague and a friend she like um like Mr Manuel when I was a brand new administrator as an assistant principal at Central Middle School she treated me with kindness and Grace which I needed a lot of at the time so congratulations Carla and her family hey uh next meetings we have an executive session um this Saturday at 8:00 a.m.
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Wednesday February 5th the select board be held at 700 p.m. Tuesday February 11th zoning board of appeals at 7 p.m. and Thursday February 13th the planning board at 7:15 p.m. also coming up we have some Town manager coffee hours do you want to chat about ashlin's latest happenings join Town manager Michael Herbert for coffee and conversation every third Wednesday day of the month at 10: a.m. at the Ashen Community Center for upcoming dates we have March 19th April 16th and May 21st the osrp public forums will be held on February 7th and 15th at 7 p.m. as Ashley updates its open space and Recreation plan residents are invited to share their thoughts on shaping the town's open spaces for the next seven years attend either session in person at the community center or online via Zoom RSVP by February 7th at the link provided on the town's website supporting the Ashland food pantry the Ashland food pantry plays a crucial role in supporting residents facing food insecurity but they need your help donations of frequently requested items can make a big difference for families in need if you or someone you know is experiencing food insecurity don't hesitate to reach out the ashin food pantry is here to help so call 508532754 n or email human services at Ashlin mass.com for assistance every contribution counts so let's come together to support our community lastly some happenings at the ashin public library there's always something exciting happening at the Ashen Public Library so here are just some of the events coming up that you won't want to miss for adult events we have maang Night on Wednesday February 5th at 6 p.m.
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org and if you click on the issues tab you can go and line up side by side Danberry versus other districts and they'll they really break out into a bar chart what's Federal what's State what's local you know and then they'll you know there's a whole different ways they'll chop that data but you can go in there and get lost for hours i' I've spent a lot of time in that website great site if I can find it real quick I'll send it to you Kevin but um thank you so and and just so I know too so you said that the 181 was our ask last year which obviously we did not get but then we had that supplemental that kind of came in um but had we got that 181 last year it would have been a 7.2% increase which would be sort of in line with other districts that's a and and surrounding towns are any anywhere between like three six eight they one next doors around close to 11 A lot of people are because of the the healthare the rise in healthare costs and then special education costs that are going up but yeah we would totally be in the ballpark of a normal pretty typical ask I think we're just in a place where we need it's like that onetime catchup to get back on track as we lost ground for about 10 years so well yeah I guess I guess yeah you said 36 so like we're the high end of that but to me like I guess my question was we're opening a new building so like it should be on the high definitely definitely okay because to me that actually that's why I sound L I'm like wait if we're opening a new building how could we possibly be like sort of what if we're on the high end of in line than that but but even even still though even with the building we would have only had a seven seven point right right like it would have been phenomenal ask right considering we're opening a new building so it's really just kind of puts it into perspective that it's high but it's really not compared to what our needs are and what you know it could be okay hi I have a question a friend asked me she's um watching but not able to ask um so the question is have there been any preliminary discussions with the city regarding the budget yeah so we so Mike and I went over um last week and we had our first discussions yes any feedback from the discussion well you know it's a it's a big ask it's a big ask and certainly folks were prepared I think we're preparing for you know the academy but you know when when you put a comprehensive budget together I think I think the big the big driers obviously the academy but you know we have 17 other schools and um you know 9,000 other kids um outside of our 12,000 that that needs support and uh cumulatively building by building department by by Department the things add up pretty quickly um even though there some of some places it's just incremental but but um what we're experiencing is really no different than what other districts are experiencing but because of our scale and sort of where we started um it just puts us at a little bit of a disadvantage in terms of you know the ask yeah yeah I really appreciate all that you've been doing that fight for all the extracurricular and your focus on um raising be more competitive salaries because I'm sure you know it's really frustrating to lose teacher after teacher the great when they become great then so I appreciate that that your focus is there yeah I appreciate that the amount of effort and work that goes into hiring recruiting hiring onboarding training um mentoring supporting with very the very few people that we have only to lose them a year later yeah is devastating it's frustrating as a family when you when you get great teachers then you lose them it's frustrating yes that's all but thank you thank you and I think I dropped the right link in the chat there for uh this the Connecticut school Finance projecta does workshops all over the state free workshops like just hop into a zoom and you will learn a tremendous amount about how Connecticut Works she's great and she actually she'd even meet oneon-one with anybody she'll talk to anybody she's very very good yes yep any other questions okay well certainly this won't be our first run with uh talking to parents and doing some Community conversations around around the budget and um you know certainly um touch base again as the budget story develops over the course of the next couple of months so actually I I just thought of one another quick one um so with the survey that went out so being that like you know improving arts and and sports and whatnot how did you factor that in for the budget I'm assuming that you did the survey to factor it in but we well so in our regular budget that's a preservation of those items right so like what we have now we're not losing um and also to you know on the grant side of things last year we did put a little bit of infusion into some of the different categories so for for instance you know Tim will tell you we we um try to support the music programs a little bit more um we've got a little little tiny not a lot of money you know $55,000 in for you know Theater Arts programs and things like that so they can get some of the things that they need um but you know we had heard from if you remember the city we were at City Hall we had kids coming in talking about anything from you know broken tubas and not having the equipment needed to be competitive at these at these you know large large stage events and it's pretty heartbreaking when you got kids that put in the amount of time and effort after school every single day hours and hours and hours a week uh to not have the basic equipment they need to be competitive with with schools that um quite frankly that danber could be you know beating everywhere that they go with with our size our number and the commitment that we have on the on in some of our programs so um they just needed a little extra boost and so we gave them a little bit and we're going to keep an eye on them um because you know in when we have tight budgets these are the kinds of things the first things that go um so you know it doesn't take too much to really support these programs um it just takes really paying attention and dedicating funds and when we look for Grants um finding some little niches to to to Sock some money away so that they can keep up with things like uniforms and and um instruments and repair excuse me a little bit of Transportation things like that we've been supporting our robotics program the last couple of years we did that with the robotics program they're they are they're killing it they're going all over the all over the place with their program it's blown up so you we make sure that the kids have the parts that they need the the tools that they need to work on the robots and that the teacher has the right materials uh and access in terms of getting kids to tournaments so it's just as important as as sports right we take care of our Athletics absolutely that's what I was going to just say I I you know I love this and it's not just damber it's not dber thing like the sport you know the Arts tends to get get you know out everywhere and and you know it's like CU even I've got nieces and nephews in New Jersey and same thing there they have to do their own fundraising they have to do you know all it's like why yeah I mean we're trying to help it's important to our kids it's important to our staff it's important to parents so we're doing our best and we'll continue to do that as long as we can I I just wanted to add on to that I think it's really super important that our kids don't come to school to be compliant but they come to school to be excited and that's how we get them excited the Arts the sports everything extra that's what makes them excited to show up field trips I yeah the field trips I mean we got it like I know personally from me being a kid that's what made me excited to show up so totally agree agreed Dr Casmir are you able to send us the or or have P send us the copy of the packet so far normally we would I'll send that right over okay thank you you're you're welcome anybody have any other questions I'll stop [Laughter] asking Cher Cooper did you have something uh thank you Tim I just enjoyed the present ation again and I thank the superintendent and uh our finance director uh doing an excellent job working together and getting the information out to par so they will understand the budget and hopefully we'll support our budget so again I I I I just enjoy the presentation thank you thank you and again I can't overemphasize enough how much work went into developing the budget you know that it's it wasn't just the the ask here it's the behind the scenes preparation um having come off of multiple Finance directors um having come off a massive funding Cliff which um you know if you're in the finance world and you have to suddenly find a way to move and shift you know $20 million worth of stuff it really blows up all of your lines and and your back end and it can create wreak havoc and so uh Mike has been doing a a fantastic job of um doing some post Esser cleanup um and also making things uh you know bucketing and categorizing things so that it makes my job easier in terms of being able to um go into our budget with a scalpel instead of a sledgehammer um which I think is a huge difference I yeah well I agree I thought it was very comprehensive very yeah very well put together actually I was just happen to think too like even for next year like that one slide probably you could even you know trickle that down to like a classroom what's a typical you know danur classroom versus a normal classroom look like you know in terms of what they are provided um you know sports team you know to a sports team band you evand we lost Athletics at the middle school many years ago I was the I was the basketball coach assistant basketball coach over there when we had Sports at the middle school yes so um those got lost in budget cuts quite a while back and uh we just put implemented through a grant um some intramural programming to get to start to build that back in that culture of staying after and competing and uh having another adult check in on you and hold you accountable and make sure you're going to class and all of that so we're hoping to at some point bring bring Middle School athletics back motivate kids to want to be successful so so that they can participate in these things yeah cool all right Welles anybody have anything else or anything outside of the budget that they would like to bring up well there was hold on I'll be the guy that ask for homework at the end don't cause trouble sorry um I'm stuck on the the process piece of this so um yeah so the budget has been adopted by your proposed budget's been adopted by the Board of Education next step is it goes to the city council um after this we'll have opportunities for public hearing But ultimately each city council member has the opportunity to vote on the mayor's proposed budget which would be inclusive of this and the city's budget so um okay I just wanted to make sure I understood before I emailed my city council yes yeah so our budget went over the board's budget already has been sent over to the mayor uh for his review and he reviews that in line with all of his other departments and then they they do their work from there and I um I I believe um you know what we can send out is the actual timeline right now we've been given Target weeks um that's going to happen I we I I'll go back and see if they actually gave us the actual date uh that they're presenting wholesale but uh we'll get we'll try to get that out okay yeah what I'm what I'm really inquiring about is where the leverage points are um you know what is the typical um what's the probability that the mayor's proposed budget will be a red penned version of the one that you were proposed versus does it go to the city council as is and get voted on um and in that respect so that would determine whether the leverage point is with the mayor or with this with the individual councilmen we so we receive Kevin we receive an allocation and then from that point um we we go back with the red line and have to figure out where we would have to go to you know stay within the allocation so we'd go back to the drawing board and revise the the budget our budget our ask for the for the following year so um yeah we we will receive an allocation I understand thank you thank you of course and typically Kevin the the part of where the public can speak is usually over spring break I will say this they they they chose the week I think before that I'll go back and get the date uh to their credit that was a a complaint that I had for 10 15 years that the uh the vote was always on April break and that was just never sat well uh with me um and they listened last year and I I believe there's a genuine um you know will to make sure that the process is is done the way it's supposed to be yeah yeah no I I all the players right now that we're you know are there's a lot of Goodwill there and and well- intended uh people that are trying to do the best so um we just need you know we need a little time to catch up to where we should be and and hopefully we'll get a really good uh result this year to make a big step in that direction that was a very hard ask when you would go to council chambers over the break and see 30 people there when you know it could have been 500 right right because of break yeah yeah agreed yeah all right anybody anything else Kevin you're done uh for now yeah thank you thank you so much thanks Kevin all right well we're good all right all right well thank you everybody for coming so I guess um if nobody has anything else then we'll take a motion to adjourn any motion Dr casmiro if you can just hang just one second after i' appreciate it but um all right so I guess thank you everybody for coming then um we will see you what's up what I say our next meeting was March 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um so that will be board members only and then um actually right after that there's an isba training session that all of us are going to participate in so that will be that will be good for us um new and old board members I think we'll all learn something there and then we have our regular board meeting um on March 3rd uh in this room at 6:30 p.m. okay so nothing else I'll call meeting adjourn thank you
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the terrarium workshop with the Ashlin Garden Club Saturday February 8th at 10 a.m. and a discussion with the library director which will be Saturday February 8th at 1 p.m. for children's events we have little Picasso's Art Club Tuesday February 4th at 4:30 p.m. clock toown rockers on Friday February 7th at 10:30 a.m. and Ashen stem Club Saturday February 8th at 11:00 a.m. no matter your age there is something for everyone at the asham public library so stop by get involved and enjoy a big thank you to our town manager Michael Herbert and the town staff for putting together this newsletter and thanks to everyone for tuning in this is Hal silver with waca with
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e their spot e look all right we'll go ahead and get started um like to welcome everybody to tonight's work study it's Tuesday February 4th I'm going to call this meeting to order and uh we will jump right into agenda item number two uh fiscal year 2025 revised budget number one presentation Dr McCord thank you Mr President governing board members we will also probably throw in just segue right into Maybe I'm Wrong 2.02 FY 2025 monthly financial report and second qual financials blah blah blah blah right that sound right yes sir cuz I've got Lauren and Jackie captured roll well Miss Betts uh go ahead and introduce Our Guest thank you U president Thompson Dr McCord board members I'm very happy to turn this present ation over to Miss Jackie Matman our Director of Finance as well as Lauren toska who most of the time is our budget manager but to date she's been doing lots of different things um however they're the ones who worked on the revised budget and so I will just be providing support tonight so with that I'm going to hand it over to M Matman great thank you Miss bets so we are presenting the fiscal 2025 revised budget number one we are not required to revise the budet budg at this time however uh after the final recalculation of fy4 we find it beneficial to um capture some of those new numbers so we'll share that exciting uh information with you now so tonight's report will include student student counts and ADM FY 2025 revised M and unrestricted Capital budgets we'll talk a little bit about other funds and finally average teacher salary so this is their ADM comparison FY 24 to fy2 Revis number one uh that top that top row is the inperson attendance so FY 24 revised number two was 30672 this the second column um as we work through the adopted budget the proposed and the adopted we're working from estimations only so because that work is done in July so we estimated uh 20 a TW sorry 1,200 student loss for the adop opted budget so that brought us down to 29707 uh now after the final recalculation of the fy4 um we are back up to 3,65 so there's an increase of 358 which is really um something to celebrate also uh Arizona online uh last year they were counted separately this year in fy2 they are counted as part of their uh brick and mortar schools this is a graphical representation of our ADM comparison year-over-year um you'll notice that we go back to FY 2019 as that was kind of our first quote unquote or last sorry normal year uh preco so you can see the um the differences year-over-year and again we're at 3,65 today okay all right a little bit about m&o um there's a lot happening here so bear with me um so similar setup as the previous um table we've got FY 2024 Revis number two all the way over to this revision I did want to point out that that um farri column is the difference between adopted and revise number one so when you're checking my math that's the math that we should be checking um so we did student count from adopted to Revis number one you'll see that we did increase um our weighted student count by 487 now this is different than ADM so average daily membership is a straight count whereas this is weighted so um just as a little bit of background all of our students are weighted based on different things so our K8 students have a weight of 1.158 whereas our 9 through 12 students have a weight of 1.
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test test Anna can you hear us I can hear you can you hear me we can hear you okay thank you good evening I would like to call this meeting to order Miss Richards may I have roll call please yes let the record show president when that four members are here in person and board member Van Hook is joining us via phone miss van can you hear us I can can you hear me yes perfect thankk you please join me in a moment of silence followed by the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all did you do something no I said it's going to get cold this brings us to uh 2.1 I motion to approve the agenda miss jarmin seconded all those in favor I I I I I motion passes 5 Z Miss Richards president Wade members of the board we have another episode of higgle Adventures so this evening we want to recognize the College Board recipients in August of 2024 the College Board awarded thousands of students Nationwide with academic honors through the annual National recognition program the program celebrates underrepresented students who Excel academically on College Board assessments including PSAT [Music] nmsqt psat1 and AP exams the five programs were open to high achieving students from all 50 states and US territory we are so proud to share with our community the recipients of this honor from higgle high and Williamsville I believe some of the students are joining us in person so if you're here this evening would you please to the come to the front of the room [Applause] this is simply incredible I'm going to let you introduce yourselves I don't usually do this but I bet you you can do it if you did this you can do anything hello I'm Michael I'm a senior this year I don't know maybe you're doing than and I'm planning to go to ASU next year to learn software development computer science stuff and I want to thank my mom dad and my little brother for joining [Applause] me hi my name is Alexa skro um I'm also a senior from Higley um I'm involved in band I'm the best buddies president and I'm also a member of NHS um After High School I'm planning to go to the University of Arizona Honors College for biochemistry um yeah I'm Emma I also am a senior at Higley um I'm an NHS and I'm going to ASU for architecture next year awesome I'm so glad glad you guys came this evening and your partners up there and academic Excellence shine down on Higley Unified School District now stay up here because I'm going to do williamsfield and then have the governing board come down for a picture oops not that quick these are our students from williamsfield high school I'm not not sure if any of these students were able to join us is anybody in the audience all right let's give them a round of applause this is an amazing amazing honor and governing board they would love a picture with you [Applause] all right here We Go Again williamsfield High School is the division one small all girl show cheer state champions here to share a little bit more on this is Williamsville athletic director director Daryl stangle so Daryl come on up [Applause] Madame President members of the board superintendent Richards the cabinet thank you for inviting us here to enjoy to celebrate this uh amazing accomplishment by this group of young athletes um this group of athletes truly does understand what it means when we talk about how a Blackhawk dominates in every aspect um this group just to give you an idea of a of a day in the life of a Blackhawk cheerleader 6:00 a.m.
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and that it's 5 o'clock I call to order the P school committee meeting on Tuesday February 4th um public comment um public comment we have't do we have anybody in the room who wants to give public comment all right so just because somebody may actually view this public comment can be emailed to SC public comment at arps.org by 3 P.M on the day of the meeting public comment can also be left by voicemail under 3 minutes at 413 3621 1891 by 3M on the day of the meeting um we will move on to approve the minutes from our last meeting do we have any I make a motion to approve did you make a motion approve the I do not okay I move to approve the minutes second uh any discussion about the minutes all right all those in favor great um all right here so warrant reports are here for anybody who wants to see them there are three this month um we actually have a gift this came in this afternoon middle of the afternoon very great it's great to see it um would someone like to read William would you like Sarah hi uh move to accept Roger Wallace excellent and teaching award Foundation Inc number 1031 to support social justice curriculum materials speaker events Etc as described in the attached letter the amount of $500 second are you second I am uh any any discussion about this there is a second page here with an explanation of what the grant is for um so uh We've accepted that Grant gratefully um G to move on on to the chair's update so since we actually have people in the room uh I just wanted to say um that just a couple of things about how we run our meetings um the public comment is intended to be for the school committee to sit and hear people uh we don't answer we don't have discussions but it's an opportunity for people to give us their input um the other thing is that this you know we follow open meeting law and something that I found a very useful way to think about it is it's a it's a p it's a meeting in public so the meeting is amongst the school committee we don't have a public meeting where everybody participates unless we have a a special meeting or a forum which might then entail some interaction with people um so I went to the student concert this morning Willam was there as well enjoyed that very much really liked the students dis announcing what they were going to play and they had their little things that they read about the different pieces and really enjoy seeing the students um thank you for sending the meeting invitation because then it was on my calendar um I have put up I put it under the chair's update it isn't something we need to discuss tonight but Micky I asked last time if we could get a list of all the positions in the school and she put together this this list which is very nice because it goes by grade it shows teacher and Par educator and then there are also the other positions but are not directly in the classroom that are listed here and I think when we have our budget here in this will be really good information to have so you know hopefully we'll have a chance to go over it before we come for the budget hearing um there is a the pjo is sponsoring a multicultural night on Saturday and on their calendar it said it's at 6:30 a.m.
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[Music] all on [Music] all right ashin with the puck behind the West Westwood recovers tries to pass up Tuck knocked away and Lucas dumps it into the zone as they get a change the Panthers race in karage couldn't keep it in but flipped it back into the zone and now Lucas look like we have an off Sid Panthers getting some good offensive time playing down the Westwood end of the Ice start the game that's a good indication all right face off will be right outside the Ashen Zone Westwood win behind the Weston net being chased down by MC [Applause] Connors and we have another off Sid Shane Bloomquist there number 15 is their top score seven goals and seven assists on the season wow go keep an eye on him sure will be seen a lot of him Westwood dumps it behind the net chain goes to field it jumps over his stick into the corner Campos bring it out passes across to Connors Connor takes a hit and we have a call on Westwood looked like a hit to the head oh big break for the Panthers right here see if coach Bard sends out on the power play yeah two minutes into the game when we're already in the power play which is great with Simmons Campos Roberts Ford and Laro Loro number six is a top score fors behind the net shot on goal miss they get the puck out of the zone and Westwood a little bit of a breakaway on oh nice save by big now ashon break it out there's Oli Theo the top goal scorer for Holliston he's in there pass goes a little bit wide that's F Simons into the corner into roach roach fires over oh the post Luis Campos had a had the open shot and it just hit the post that was a great opportunity great pass just didn't just missed it still have a minute to go in the penalty 12 one left to go in the first period have roaches oh roach goes into the corner but westford's going to fire it out and they clear Brady Lucas is chasing down into the corner with Westwood behind him okay Lucas has it Lucas is coming out with it a little wide of a pass to Roach and Westwood recovers again it's going to flip it down and let's see if we can make something happen here 23 seconds to go and a penalty garage behind the Lucas taking it up shot on net rebound gets away from everybody G chasing it down Panther flips it into the Westwood Zone as Ashley gets a change going to be an offside so they couldn't pursue and now Westwood should passes up nice back check broken up by Timmy Dwayne shot wide Lucas over to kahar Karis back to Lucas and we have a whistle Tom I haven't seen Danny Kelly on the ice I didn't know if Danny Kelly's a scratch for tonight but Danny Kelly's probably one of not the best player on the team very strong on the defense and offense oh here Breakaway raen ruts gets it over looks like a trip but maybe not and now Westwood's coming back with it nice breaking it up yeah nice save or y's had a heck of a season 2.02 goals against average and an 899 save percentage has really back stopped this team I'm sure we'll be hearing his name a lot during the broadcast face off one by the Panthers but whistled we reset Elman on the puck bring it up it's taken back fighting for it on the side R Gallagher behind in that pursuing through the corner the Pucket out of the Zone picked up by Westwood fire on go wide gallager tries to get it to the side at some of the Westwood FKS are there another shot wide picked up by Westwood in the corner pass it out to the Blue Line trying to pass it back in behind him that Liam Gallagher tries to clear and back into the corner kahar chasing and Alon just clears to get the puck out of there needed to ice that puck too much pressure going on in the defensive Zone a good idea just to get the puck out of there you have a reset so now have a face off to the left of Mor Ari in The Poon Zone but Simons on the face off one by Westwood Puck one out of play Holliston Ashland comes into this game with a record of five wins seven losses and one tie they've scored 30 goals Westwoods nine and five have scored 45 41 goals they're ranked number nine in division two paulon nashin being in division three nice passing by Westwood but a wide shot the that and now lford Simons with the puck shot on that rebound backand a little wider than that into the corner Theo on the puck shot wide by Ma Roberts out to the point oh another great chance for the Panthers was the almost picked up that rebound which is how he's been scoring quite a bit being in front of the net getting good rebounds having quick hands now we have a little bit of a breakaway but broken up by Holliston Westwood passes up to the Blue Line we're going to have a shot on goal in the crowd Mor Ari saves we got a whistle the oh off net came off good Hustle by hollison Ashland in the offensive zone trying to get some opportunities definitely trying to throw the puck in on Holland just going to try to bury him tonight yeah I think the Panthers are coming out very aggressive they're looking looking very good in both zones they face off to the right of Mor arti shot save Puck on the corner oh Puck dropped out front shot on net laying out in front of the net Ah that's a goal the puck was just laying there nobody could get a nobody saw it it was literally laying right on the ice like two feet away from Shane and Westwood saw it hit it score 27 Luke Luke Martin with the goal all right so we'll have a face off here at Center Ice looks like Timmy Dwayne taking the face off Westwood takes the lead with 721 to go here in the first period must with dumps into the Zone picked up by Ford and we got a whistle not sure what that whistle was forys let's go let go base off to the left of the Westwood goalie one by As Nice Shot score OE Laro lose 13th on the season we talked about him being the top scorer quick hands right there took advantage of a loose Puck tied it up 15 seconds later great score by oo good face off by lamb fit Simons good quick Hands by loo just like that we're tied we'll give Fitz Simons the now with a nice move in again shoots but gets blocked he chases into the corner fighting for it pu comes out front Ford knocks it away back Westwood has it back Ford throws it into the corner now the puck comes bouncing out Lucas fires it back into the [Applause] corner W gets it back but oh M Roberts takes steals the puck Liam F behinds the net looking for somebody oh his pass gets blocked and Westwood just dumps it in Shane picks it up tosses it back [Applause] out and the corner Ford brings it up Westwood gets it into the Zone nice check off the puck Kobe Alman fighting for it doing a good job getting the puck away Westwood dumps into the corner Westwood at the point fires in gets blocked by too many people we go to the point again fired in Saved by Mor Ari or a little bit wide and now we have some extra curricular activity behind the net penalty on Westwood a good job by the Panthers and staying calm and letting letting Westwood take the penalty and not retaliating right now we have our second power play 539 to go in the first period one to one your score Westwood clears chain stops the puck behind the net leaves it there for there pass up to fit Simons fit Simons over to Loro L with a quick pass to Campos Campos for the quar [Music] scor the roow to Campos makes it two to one what a rope that was fre Campos fired that shot on a on a rope Holland didn't look like he was expecting that no that's campos's first goal of the Year got to tell you Campos has been doing great on assists he has nine assists on the year so he's you know one of those unsung players that you don't you we don't call him out a lot because he's not scoring goals but with nine assists he's been a very important part of this team and that's his first goal which is great yeah I always like to get that first one oh all right 451 left to go into first period Panthers have two to one let's see if they can maintain this momentum Lucas taken out behind the net stopped and we're going to have an icing here on Westwood all right 438 to go in the F in the first period two to one Panthers will have a face off just outside the panther Zone just had a flurry there in the last two minutes this game first game I said was 2 to one Westwood and now we've got two to one in just two minutes this could be a 9 to8 game that'll be exciting Westward fires into the Zone the referee blocks the puck from going out another Puck picked up by Lucas again now roach back into the Holliston Zone in shot there little pushing and shoving the Connor passes it up a little bit wide the Connor get gets it into the zone and he takes a shot was blocked wide of the [Applause] net now wolver now behind Wolverine trying to get the puck out Wolverine's on a long pass up but broken up by Evan kahar great job in stopping that potential Breakaway back into the corner the harage has it flips it up the side stopped oh what a save by Mor Ari I don't know how he got that one I don't that was a great pass right across the crease open net morar got his leg across and just blocked that shot and kind of knocked the net off in the process right Dumis number 14 thought he had more he already set up to open that that left side of the net but he flashed the pad on it all right face off now to the right of Mor arti Ford takes it behind the net tries trying to get the puck out of there passes up kept in the zone for it oh Tri in the Mori tricky bounce there yep long pass up the ice but I think is going to go for an icing good idea just went over o the roose's head 245 LIF in this first period two to one Hollis and ashin I don't know what the Westwood Wolverines were expecting coming into this but uh the Panthers are giving them all they can handle right now but Simons wins the face off behind in that Lucas fires around the corner picked up by fit Simons passes it up to Roberts taken away by Westwood chased by Roberts Puck bouncing around pass up to Westwood Westwood oh broken up amazing play by Grady Lucas to break that up thought Bloom quit was in to walk right in yeah [Applause] over to Lucas again now the puck didn't get out of the Zone Westwood flips back in but for trying to bring the puck up hson trying to do some changing but Westwood's coming in shot wide of the goal Westwood has it behind the net tacking back to the Blue Line another shot blocked by Mor Ari back out to the point shot of morti save oh goal that somehow trickled through Bloom put it through a crowd Mari already made the initial stop but then uh got poked home right under his Pad all right so that'll bring us to two to two tied up here with 1 minute 30 seconds left in the first period that was Matthew dunan number seven that was his eighth goal in the year yeah Panthers just allowed too many chances in there didn't get the puck out chased down by karage knocked out of the Zone Alman with the puck chasing into the corner Alman sends it around picked up by Westwood Westwood trying to pass it out Austin orm chasing down the puck into the corner fighting pushing pass out front blocked by Evan kahar we had a Westwood player coming in that would have been ugly but good job Michael harage to block that pass now another Westwood player just getting by everybody firing on morti but luckily the puck got out of the out of the zone that was Sullivan number two Let One Go High over morard shoulder harage pass it's going to get called for a icing all right 38 seconds left to go we'll have a face off to the left of Mor Ari Westwood scratching and kly to try to keep up with uh the Panthers right now and they lucky they got it tied up Killian painter on the Breakaway firing up the ice firing it off the backboards hoping for a kill painter another check takes a player right off the right off the puck Timmy Dwayne picks up the puck circles around passes out to painter painter oh here's a get RS On The Run oh and just broken up now Lucas is going to pick that up go around and that and that should be the end of uh oh that was very lucky a little bit of lazy play 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Facebook um they're right on 135 in ashon and open weekdays 10 to 7 all right so at the end of the first period we'll be take a short break here and we'll be back at the beginning of the second period welcome back to the beginning of the second period where Hollis and Ashlin Panthers are taking on the Westwood Wolverines we're about to uh have the puck drop here at the beginning of the second period I'm George tuin I'm here with Tom Emmons at Center ice at New England Sports Center in Malboro scores tied 2-2 as we get away get get underway here in the second period two goals for Hollis and Ashland was at 710 of the first period Oliver Loro scored his 13th of the season from Liam fit Simons and then just two minutes later Lou Campos put his first one of the period first one of the Season behind Jack Holland as he ripped it by number one that one coming from Loro also and Westwood tied it up with 126 left in the second period so these teams have been scoring scoring a lot more than happened the first timeout yeah yeah the Panthers came out very strong they look good crisp aggressive just a couple of Aaron coals let's hope they can keep the pressure up on uh Westwood keep them on the back of their heels so that was a that was an offside so we'll have a face off to the right of the Westwood goalie quick shot on that Danny Kelly nice tip by Fitz Simons back out to Danny Kelly oh just trickles out Danny Kelly gets the back up skate around but nice backhand pass so Luis Campos takes it in but gets gets sto popped and now Danny Kelly protecting and here comes L here comes the Panthers loo brings it in through the legs one of his best moves oh it was a great pass but broken up by Westwood painter got hit in the face with a step but the referee didn't see it now pass up flipped in to the goalie nobody out front for the Campos fires it in no save behind the that out front for Simons and just knocked away tuck back in the panther Zone chased down by Kelly couple of tap passes Puck fired back into the Zone looked like I but it wasn't called kelly with the puck being chased but nobody's going to catch him Kelly bringing the puck up nice rebound nice juicy rebound we could but the uh roach wasn't didn't get in there in time roach with the puck now fires on goal glove save L really challenged Holland on that one let go a really hard low shot he Bound for the far corner Westwood Captain flashed out the pad on that [Music] one like to see the way hollison Ashland's playing they're keeping the pressure on Westwood so far the beginning of the second period Corner's fighting for the puck in the zone pushed off Lucas pushes off Connor behind the net no that's not Conners goes back Roberts out to Ford Ford of the corner behind the net chase down there's ni Corners M RS oh pass almost a good pass out front but that's a nice in that's coming back as they say although Westwood's the higher rated team here it really Panthers are right there with them step for step Dwayne on the face off chases into the corner fights for it puckets pass Kelly Kelly's going to chase it down chased by a couple of westw players Kelly flips it back went to the bench face off in the panther Zone to the left side of Shane Mor Ari shot block by painter chased down by three Panthers but not able to get to it Puck behind a net morotti flips it around now flip that can we get a little crash karaj fighting for it in the corner Ro gets it back to kahara it's then back out front painer with it across the ice so carar gets it up out of the Zone flip pass a little bit too much flips it into the panther bench there's two his teammate teammate was just off the ice right it would have been a good pass if he was on the ice 1120 1109 left in the second period two twos you score for Simon on the face off wins it behind in that flips it around to Lucas Lucas passes up a little bit too hard no Ford with it behind the net for Simons in sails it around chase down by loo back down around the boards picked up by Ford again Ford gets it up to Loro but Loro couldn't keep a handle on it and now M robis comes in and shot in the save sort of in an eye position there for Mack but he had the right idea jumping on that Puck and putting it on Holland again this just a good aggressive play they're constantly pushing the puck up the ice looking for those opportunities now we'll have a face off to the right side of the Westwood goalie Campo taking the face off around the corner Cas down by that's roach in the corner tries to send the back into the corner get bounced out front Connor chased down was able to keep it in but then West guard have flipped it out DP back in the zone intercepted by Campo shot just High boy he a great what a great shot kahar sails went in a little bit wide another one in Kelly intercepts passes back but it just gets by um mck Connor for an icing Lou campo's really feeling it with the shot tonight hard hard high shots hard low shots he's just feeling it letting it go yeah it's a face off to the left of Mor Ari everybody fighting for it Lucas picks it up brings it around the corner back to Westwood y are in there fighting sh the sh of the corner Westwood has it behind the net fires it out chased down by Gallagher G's going to get it in the corner fire it around to Lucas a little bit too far Westwood keeps it in the whole team over there fighting for the puck Lucas uh Lucas clears around the board par stolen by Westwood but then got back by Panthers Westwood fires save Westwood again throws it behind the net nice Jack taken right off the puck Puck squeaks by the defender on the blue line Ashlin gets a change Westwood dumps into the zone lcas is going to pick it up play it back around nice little tap passes there m Roberts got it but there's a little bit ahead of him oh there's a shi Solen by loo oh loo tries to go through the five hole and just misses it great move but no goal that quick stick just big Advantage there for theow to come in Panthers on the two two on two Breakaway picked up backhander great save by Shane morard Puck was like right around face high neck high and he knocked it down and was able to cover it yeah Westwood was on the backand and there was a little bit of traffic and Shane picked it out picked it out of the air 726 left in the second period Danny Kelly with the puck around the corner passes over pass up pass up across the ice nice pass shot wide big hit there great save by Shane Mori West was coming in uh you know there was there was a passer on the other lane Shane paid the played the puck was able to save that now the defender sort of angled him off number 22 so he had no place to go except put it on moriarity good job on the D kick back behind the net Lucas takes it around forward Dwayne dumps it deep in the zone and goes back for it painter on the check Lucas sends it back into the Zone the Panthers are chasing Dwayne goes into the corner nice Hustle by number 14 yeah picked up by Rod fighting for it over there in the corner still still good hustle oh nice pass across but there was painter on it but they kind of caught him on the [Music] backand all right long clear there great combo on the side boards there good Hustle by Dwayne and rs rots singing a pass right to painter in front it's great pass just caught painter on the back hand so we had a shot but it was it just happened so fast yeah but uh that's the kind of combinations that lead to goals all right six minutes left here in the second period still two to two shot from the line J Mor already sees it even though it was through traffic glove save so we'll reset try that face off again shot of morari through traffic he sees it though now Westwood has the puck behind the net around to Connors with the quick move but gets knocked Away by the Westwood player d K Kelly all over the Westwood player stopping him from coming in flipped out of the Zone chase down by Nick Conners Westwood has it now three on three dumper behind the net picked up by Danny Kelly Kelly passes across a little bit far picked up by Westwood Westwood brings in another Zone shot on there easy Love Save by Shane made it look easy anyway it definitely makes it look it wouldn't be easy for me but 508 left in the second period still tied at two well Panthers are keeping up the pressure still playing aggressively although Westwood I think has picked up the pressure as well so really really is a great match here wide shot of the net Roberts passes up Roberts again against the boards check Lucas fighting for it shot nice grabbed by Shane I got tell you one thing morard does well is holds the puck you know he doesn't allow for a lot of deflections a lot of those bounces out front he knows how to absorb the puck um so that the team doesn't get a second chance he I think he's worked on that a lot you the shows when when you see him play that gives the whole team a lot of confidence you know the back end knowing it's that solid with number 33 back there yeah they can play on the front end of their skates oh [Music] oh score by Westwood here just a lot of passing around from behind the net to the front of the net the pain are going to have to do a better job at getting to that puck behind the net not letting set up back there for you know start passing around number 22 I think that's uh Donovan no Timmy Timmy Molly he makes it 3-2 with 438 to go here in the second period so we played a clean 10 minutes and now we're finally got a score up on the board really the Panthers had carried the play too bad jeez there another one where West with nice pass across fire it in with somebody right out front two players out front here we go we got to get to the Puck finally the Panthers get to it got an off siiz called f spend a little bit too much time in the panther Zone at the end of this second period going to have to get the puck out get a little bit more aggressive tap pass deflected out of play good idea it just didn't connect have a face off just outside the Westwood Zone mov tampos on the face off back to Lucas for another Zone chased down by roach roach and Campos in there fighting for it Lucas chases it down tries to pass it back Campos dumps it in behind the net goes goes after it now Westwood has it broken up by roach as they try to bring it in the Pu makes its way behind the Panthers oh back up to the Blue Line westw fires in Puck is loose westw sucessful put in a lot of traffic in front of Mor Ari little bit of a breakway by Danny chell's over there to get in front of it breaks up that play great job on that now we have a whistle looks like it was an offside 225 left in the second period nice pass across shot high but back out to the Blue Line some nice moves by Westwood into the corner trying to pick it up Kelly knocks it out R dumps it back in but they have to clear the Zone Kelly across pass went a little bit long but it tipped off of Dwayne's stick so it won't be icing here's a steel steel Drake SC Timmy Dwayne on the score Ashlin Jr Timmy Dwayne that'll be his third goal of the Season just came off a perfect steal he wield and shot to the back of the net his third goal of the year went high on that one hit the hit the high side of the net and scored 138 left in the second period score now tied three to three [Applause] seemed like Hollis and ashon was playing a little flat when they after the Westwood goal they took advantage of that steal right there found the back of the net see if they can apply the offensive pressure they had been the whole the beginning of the second period wood bringing it up Puck goes wide of the net picked up by Loro loo flips it out can't get it out picked up by Westwood westw with a great pass shot on net blocked by Mor arti wide now morti falls on the puck I think morti wants to have pucks bouncing around in front of the net anymore all right 110 to go in the second period we'll have a face off to the right of Mor arti can't just have the park knock it out get it out of the Zone the break for Holliston now F simons's oh great little pass over and a shot by roach but nice save by the Westwood goalie Panthers had numbers right there all right less than a minute to go here three to three in the second period have a face off in the Westwood Zone Luis campo's taking the face off Westwood winds flips around pu's getting knocked around in the neutral zone here great defense by Danny Kelly there's another Puck bouncing out front Aon shot campo's racing up the ice dumps it into the Zone chased on by Nick car is into the corner but now Westwood's racing up the ice with it Pucket knocked away Nick Conners with it flips it up ahead to Campos Campos leaves it back for Conners Connor shoots and Sav by the Westwood goalie nice high shot good combination between the players right there Campos dropping the puck right where we get a good shot off it's very good passing there Connor to Campos back to Connor then the shot but just great save by the goalie so 15 seconds left to go we'll have a face off here to the left of the Westwood goalie this sends it around the corner fires it up but chased down by Lucas into the [Applause] corner and that's the end of the second period that action in the last four minutes Westwood going ahead the Panthers not staying on their heels as they tied it up with just a minute to go take a break here for uh the end of the second period period just want to uh thank again our sponsors Townhouse Pizza and Rose beef located at 300 Elliot Street in Ashland and also Marathon Deli located right on Route 135 in Ashland that was a that was a that was a great second period oh yeah hollon Ashland was controlling the play the whole first half of the second period just Westwood started to get a little get some bouncing pucks in front of morar little bit of traffic and finally knocked one of them home but Holliston was quick to respond and get a get a goal there just with just a minute to go Dwayne jumped on that Puck and a loose Puck and just fired it to the top of the top of the net it was it was it was great to see it was great to see that comeback now we're three to three um and as you said I mean Westwood is a top rated team and for the Panthers to be where they right here in this game is very impressive oh I don't think any the West would expected this kind of a game at all you know but it shows how far the teams have come in uh the season you know early on it was 2 to one and uh you know really close game the first game of the season and here we are here we are 13 games in thinking about playoffs and you know this is a big move by the hollison Ashland team is there really starting to gel yeah we mentioned last game I think um coliston is now ranked 22 in MAA division 3 hockey the top 32 teams make it so if they keep playing like this even you know they keep games competitive against top tier teams that still helps with your rating it's not necessarily wins and losses but it's how you do against the better teams and they're doing really well against one of the better teams well they get tested in the tri valley League Medfield is number one in the state you know so you know they get to play the top of the top absolutely all right so let's take a break we'll be back at the beginning of this third period folks welcome back to the big ashin Panthers versus Westwood Wolverines here at the wiland sports center beginning of the third period score tied three to three all tied up because oh that's out the side of the net all tied up because Timmy Dwayne made a great steal in a quick snapshot top corner with just a minute to go in the second period where Holliston had ashin had carried this second period I think in my opinion before Westwood took the lead hopefully they can carry that that momentum here into the third period Bo behind the net over to Lucas picked up by Westwood thought far by Campos Puck bouncing around in the middle there taken by brooch thrown behind the net Puck out front quick shot by Nick Conners but too much traffic picked up by Campo sent around and Panthers will make a change Panthers get out of the Zone but F Simon coming in all in his Zone quick shot right in the middle no rebound on that good quick play by F Simon skated around a couple of Defenders took a shot hoping for a rebound but it it wasn't coming but will slow of a face off there in the Westwood Zone just by m Roberts in the corner out front to Loro but just got by him K how back on defense car with the park flips it forward and Ro just flips it into the backboards oh kind of an errand shot there Puck out front now kahara breaking up oh Westwood has the puck and some quick moves couple of shots on goal and wow holls and Ashlin escaped one three on one Westwood was looking pretty pretty good there as they had the numbers was back there Fighting by himself but Mor Ari was able to stop the puck yeah more that bouncing around Puck that we don't like Face Off to the left of Mor arti picked up sent around by Lucas over to Ford Ford tries to flip it out now gets back around to Lucas Westwood able to keep it in luk is still trying to clear can't get it out picked up again by Westwood into the corner good again on him Ford fighting again pick up by Westwood pass out front painter tries to get to it we got a shot Lucas again tries to clear it around and the puck gets out of his own Westwood sends the park out of play well 11 left in the third period tied at three before that last face off Mack Roberts was the one who got the puck behind the Westwood net with a chance to get it out in front nice play by him on the back check and then finding the puck behind the net R try going for a tip there but it didn't work put picked up by the Panthers skating up you guys great pass oh Kelly almost sent number 20 Elman in yeah Kelly brought the puck in great pass over to Alman nice combos I love those little combinations absolutely keep making them guys we got a face off in the Westwood Zone looks like moschini taking the face off Westwood racing up with the puck but knocked Away by karic dancing around trying to pass it up Kelly gets it Kelly going up the side dumps it on net bounced in on Holland Panthers make a change Westwood racing up dumps it into the Zone War already tries to go out and slow it down but gets around back into the corner picked up by Panthers Panthers long pass up pass across just a little bit too far ahead and now the puck dumped into the panther Zone slapped Away by Mor arti now Campo racing up get behind goalie flips the puck away into the corner oh able to keep the puck in but Panthers already backed up so couldn't take advantage of that Westwood shoots wide morard flips the puck now we got a whistle see what this call is going to be uh goal came off the post again oh must have a bad uh pin there gold post is a goalie's best friend right face off to the right of Mor arti one by Westwood Westwood passes across shot on net through a crowd didn't get to Mor arti and now Robert's taking the puck in oh tried to get a pass over to Laro just a little bit wide Theo in the corner now fighting for the puck campus in there too colen Ford fighting for looks like he's going to get it for fighting back over oh quick putt just trickled over we had a nice quick Slap Shot right in front of the net by Ma Roberts oh gosh Ford was battling with two West when Wolverines got the puck away somehow found it uh Roberts over at the right Circle that shot just didn't get get connected either Puck low tries to pass out front fighting for it behind the net Simon's in the corner digging out front but nobody's there over to makes a stop now we got an icing 931 left in the third period tied at three yeah looks like Westwood really came out aggressive at the beginning of the period uh definitely the aggressor now it looks like things have turned around a little bit we see the Panthers coming back at them quick shot in front of the net elbow Sav by morri Ari Puck bouncing around to the right of morri Ari into the corner oh Panthers not able to get the puck out of the Zone quick shot wide of the net bounced around back to the blue line and the puck gets out picked up by Kelly Kelly resets and quick pass up goes wi it's going to be an icing so just under nine minutes to go here still three to three this is is a much more competitive game than perhaps one would have thought based on you know scores and rankings Lucas around the Ford Ford tries to get it up the Conners but goes wide luckily the shots on net so no icing picked up by Camp's quick shot on net save quick Puck out front fighting for it oh wow may get a penalty there there was a high hit on broen roach in front of the net roach got knocked off his skates with definitely a sh shove I think that's going to be a cross check no they didn't call anything now the refer was talking to the player I don't know why they're taking the face off outside of the westward Zone Lucas sends it in behind the net Lucas picks it up again back to Ford Ford has it in front of the net just turns around flips it out of the zone and now gets knocked back into the panther Zone nice pass across by Lucas Campos takes it in gets tries to get it through crowd it doesn't work quick shot on Mor arti save no rebound so we'll have a face off to the left of Mor arti good job by number 33 Panthers try to break out there a couple of times just couldn't just missing one pass eight minutes to go 4 seconds in the hockey game 33 your score right but Simon's taking the face off gets knocked back just trickles out of the Zone the road chases it down and the puck is flipped in and before a shot can go off Panthers steal but Westwood recovers great passing by Westwood Kelly has the puck now flips it out the Puck's out of the zone and Westwood gets called for an offside all right the Panthers make another change looks like MOS skini on the face off M oh great job getting in front of that puck be passed out now he's chasing it down on the corner and the puck just got away nice pass up shot on morari right to the middle Mor already go gobbles it up now a face off in the panther Zone 724 left score still tied three to three it's going to be an exciting finish I can tell that both teams going at it tonight Puck Puck knocked forward chased down by alond oh great pass out front by Westwood but knocked away before the shooter can get a stick on it Westwood Fighters the puck back to the backboards centering pass Alman has it Alman clears and Westwood clears his own Westwood dumps it into the corner Kelly picks it up Kelly taking it up the side puck gets away from him and Panthers are making a change ro ro got right in front of that pass and blocked it I think with his helmet shot on morti nice save flips behind in net goyard sees the puck out front flips it away another shot on that morotti stick saves it and it goes out of play Panthers not making it easy for the Westwood Wolverines they just won't roll over they're they're looking for every opportunity to put the pressure on Westwood I think we have a team gets like the big burst of energy and gets their gets their sticks on the putts going to win this one shot behind the net again Puck rolled in front of the net shot on Mor arti but Mar had his pads out there so nothing going on here's a break painter on the Breakaway but oh the puck went just wide of him but he's still chasing into the corner nice check and here we go Center Danny Kelly oh couldn't get a stick on it now we have a little bit of a breakaway but now being chased down good Hustle by Ford yeah Ford gets gets to that puck before anything could happen and now a little Breakaway by the Panthers raen roads flips it in oi theow out front oow shot just I think that puck got tip so the shot went a little bit wide painter in the corner fighting for it loo over there as well digging digging for the puck somewh fighting Westwood has it sends it around the corner now back behind the net Westwood controls but the Rogues knocks the puck away Rono has it fighting for it behind the corner the row has it skating in skating around front flips it around he [Music] scores Oly Loro with the wrap around the net scores number six would not be denied he was fighting every Wolverine he could find in the corner finally wielded around round tried the near post took it behind the net and then buried it behind Holland with 455 to go here in the third period it's 14 goals now for oi loo on the season he's fired up that was not an easy one that was no gimme on that one 455 to go let's see if we can keep this lead have to keep aggressive but Simons in taking the face off Westwood wins it sends it back that's what plays It Forward Danny Kelly on Dean knocking it away pass intercepted by Westwood now in the corner trying to get the puck out I was just about to talk about all the ozone time the Panthers had finally against Westwood they had been countering all their neutral zone and and attempts to get into the panther end but hollon had some great ozone time and then Ali the row just oneman show there gives the Panthers the lead with just four and a half minutes to go Panthers need to stay aggressive just keep keep doing what they're doing all right Panthers try to clear the puck and it goes out of play so they'll have another Face Off to the left of morri Ari Ash win or Allison wins this face off that's Kelly behind the net flips it up to Nick Connor Connor chasing with Rogen R Kelly flips back out again Westwood clear fires into the Zone karic fires around the corner out front puck drop oh Slap Shot out front Puck bouncing around out front morard on the ground Puck bounces over the net fighting for it behind the net and we we get a whistle don't tell me that the net came off this the post again yep wow that's just what West would wanted that bouncing Puck that just just seems to stay in front of Mor arti forever all the sticks flying and bodies flying and that's how Westwood's gotten their goals all right 351 to go face off to the right of Mor arti it's Timmy Dwayne on the face off into the corner trying to get the puck out can't get the puck out of the Zone fighting for it on the side have four players tied up five six players seven players everybody wants in on this digging eventually the puck flips out picked up by Ford gets it around the net Timmy Dwayne gets it around passes up go Nick Connor who fired it on goal Nick Conor around the back of the net nice check Puck kept in by Timmy Dwayne Timmy Dwayne aggressively going in into the corner [Music] looks like we have a we have a whistle here this may be a call this was a uh a tough hit on Dwayne no no call on that looks like we'll have a face off now just over three minutes to go big chance for the Panthers right here but Simon's back to Loro wow Liam for Simons won that face off tapped it back to L loo with the quis rip shot right in the goal that's a hattick for oi loo again 134 and 15 tonight for number six score is now 5 to3 the Panthers with three minutes to go Ry the RO I this is a second hattick game it may be more I I hope it's hope I'm not selling them short but what a job could to give credit for f Simons for winning that face off with a quick pass back to Loro that's his second assist of the night for Fitz Simons and the Panthers take a two-goal lead with 248 to go Puck up up by Robert robs it brings it in brings it around the corner flips it back to the blue line but there's a Defender waiting and now Westwood fires the puck on net picked up by Mory Hardy thinking about dropping it but then thought twice about it after he saw uh Westwood player coming in two and a half minutes to go big excitement here for the hollison Ashland team best game they've played all season against one of of the top teams in Massachusetts making a point here tonight in marbor face off to the Le left of Mor Ari pucks Dro back into the corner Lucas picks it up sends it around tried to clear but can't Puck out right out front oh they score blumquist their Captain top scorer top scorer cuts the lead to one goal with 2 minutes and 23 seconds to go that shot looked like it was right off the chest of morari and somehow just dropped and trickled back there pther are going to have to learn to get that puck cleared so Westwood answers back less than a minute later it's going to be a fight to the Finish for these two teams that that two goal cushion is gone still have a one goal cushion which which is good Westwood sends the puck into the corner morard behind the net trying to hit it out traffic in front Puck Dro in front of Mor Ari and mor Ari jumps on it and jumps up to push uh the players away great job by moriarity there cutting through the chaos to get the glove on it 208 to go now five to four Panthers have a face off to the right of Mor arti Simons on the draw Panthers oh Westwood gets it fires off moror but a save and now oi loo is taking the puck up he sees for Sims across he tries to spit around they're going to get an interference here there's going to be a penalty called Westwood wow Roberts Roberts sent laru away and Laro got it deep into the Westwoods area before he was hauled down wasn't allowed to make that pass to Roberts so the Panthers will be on a power play with 153 left in the game that power play is going to last the remainder of the game so Westwood will be short-handed not the situation Westwood wants to be in here one goal down short-handed for the remainder of the game certainly the situation the Panthers want right Campbell is going to be on the draw here desperate teams try desperate moves oh quick quick shot there out front and now roach holding the puck holding it in the corner and has he's no rush to do anything F Simons has it behind the corner passes over to Campos Camp's taking his time coming around with it fires it behind the net back over to Roach roach holding it just taking his time roach fires it back over around the corner but then the puck Slips Away Westwood has it but Westwood flips it behind the net it's going to be no icing because they're short-handed morard flips the puck around they get the puck out of the Zone here's Kelly Kelly all by himself into the net he's G dny Kelly steals the puck goes in and scores with one minute 6 seconds remaining back breaker by Kelly what a goal by Danny Kelly oh the Panthers are feeling it tonight they love that one that was beautiful Kelly just went right to left right around the goalie stuck it up around his snuck it in around his leg and scored right there power play goal for number four Danny Kelly his fifth of the Season shot on goal glove save Mor arti less than a minute to go Westwood has pulled their goalie which makes sense now with the uh face off in the panther zone so it'll be six on five got 59 seconds left and we got a timeout right now looks like uh the Panther's called a timeout yeah coach Bard wants to talk it over with his guys a lot of excitement on that Panther bench right now I mean 5 to3 was just more than they can imagine what they worked for they've been down 3 to2 tied it up 3 to three in the second period and then being ahead by two goals with 3 minutes to four minutes to go you know it just seemed like they were going to cruise it in but Westwood wouldn't let that happen but then they got the power play which Kelly took advantage of so a lot of emotion you want to calm that guys down right now a little bit keep skating boys yeah very clear instructions on what to do in this in this situation all right just a minute to go Panthers are up 6 to4 we have a six on five situation here Westwood has pulled the goalie face off to the right of morard going to be a great finish face off goes back out to Westwood Westwood fires on net through a crowd Rogan roach brings it into the corner kind of holds it in there and now Kelly's holding the puck in [Music] there fighting for the puck in the corner 40 seconds to go oh now A breakway O loo he shoots SC oo four goals in this game oh my God four goals the Panthers go absolutely nuts oh gosh wow what a season they've had what a game Panthers are screaming they're so happy you know coming together as two teams sort of zip together Frankenstein Lake you know Finding their finding their skates tonight here in Marboro against a West good very good Westwood team they are just playing with all sorts of confidence Howard sends it around to Kelly in front of the net L racing up racing up again with roaches they're not letting up they're they're continuing to be aggressive they're not going to let this slip away they're going to this Fitz Simons fit Simons knocks it out to ro kahar on a slap shot Gets behind the net pucks all tied up we 2-1 game and now we have some extra clicker activity we got a bunch of Westwood players jumping on one a one Panthers player in the corner looks like they all jumped on low if I was a Westwood player I'd be pretty upset with the row myself well loo by himself scored as many points as the entire Panther team it's the entire westw team oh somebody's hurting there oh it's a shame to see the game end this way so it was on the row that that was very shameful for the Westwood players three of them to jump on I don't if that was broken roach down there I I I can't tell oh it's too bad on to leave a sour taste in their mouths it was such a great game that they played and they all run out to suround there goalie Shane morti who back stopped this win seven to four Panthers over a top Westwood team I mean if Hollis and Ashlin was crowing a little bit about their win it was well deserved because they played their hearts out tonight absolutely I mean hopefully we see some um some penalties here on the on the Westwood side that was completely uncalled for to have three players surrounding one Ash One Ash hollon player yeah that is broen road kind of limping off the ice hopefully everything's okay the main thing the main thing here is that uh the Panthers got the win they beat who who uh on paper was the better team oh my gosh this was upset City tonight I said from the get-go it looked like the Hollis Ashan team was giving Westwood all they could handle it look like Westwood was thinking this is a team we've already beaten once we got 30 shots on net and maybe we could have had more in a two to one game but boy the Panthers were really just creating opportunities and sending a lot of ozone time in front of Holland Westwood was on their heels all night long yeah maybe it was a little bit of embarrassment at the end getting getting thrashed the way they did by uh the Panthers you know to lose by three goals when you're a much higher ranked team you've beat the team before you come in here you expect a win well and they they they kind of walked into a buzz saw oh my gosh well you just hope that this team can finish this season and strong and find a place in the playoffs and then and then upset somebody who hasn't seen him play but this is a big game tonight it really is this is a real Testament you know this the beginning of the Season we had um the Holliston High School team join with the ashin high school team they had never played before a lot to work out you know a lot to learn a lot you know between plays how to work together and you could just see them every week getting better and better and better and this is really the culmination of it to see them come in here against a Westwood team top ring team in their division and come out with a three-goal win I mean that's just amazing unheard of unheard of in hockey you know they tend to be sort of rubber stamped if somebody's that far ahead of you ranked they just they just come away with the win but hollon as had said no not so fast Westwood we're not letting it happen especially Ali Laro with four goals now he has 16 on the season uh Power Play goal from Danny Kelly his Fifth and we had Timmy dun dun with uh Timmy Dwayne Timmy Dwayne with his third goal of the season and Lou Campos with his first of the Season that great it great to see that Lou Campos he's a good player it's great to see him get his first goal well whoever whoever the Panthers play next do you know who's next on the list I don't remember who's next on the schedule but well they better watch out well they're coming off a big I mean this is going to show them that they could beat the better teams I mean they've they've worked at it they've progressed they've learned they know how to play with each other and it shows they they beat a good team and now hopefully they carry this into the rest of the season realizing that they are they are a good team oh yeah this kind of C confidence can last games and a hot goalie too Shane moity really back stopping this he had a great game too yeah all right well I guess that I guess that's it here from malor uh with the final score 7 to4 Panthers over the Wolverines will sign out here and see you next game here on waca TV
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1268 right um additionally we've got Group B weights so those are special education kiddos gifted free and reduced um various weight applied to those kiddos as well so that's the difference between ADM and weighted student count I just wanted to point that out cu those numbers aren't going to be the same um so with that um we do have an increase in our M Revenue control limit of about $2.7 million um which is great news so the third um row there is during uh when we proposed and then adopted the budget in order to balance ml budget we did take $2 million of District additional assistance out of the capital column in our budget and put it into M with the increase of our weighted student count and consequently our Revenue control limit going up we do not have to make that transfer anymore so it has been removed um from revision one um our override is based on those um previous ADM numbers as Jackie mentioned so the 15% did go up a little bit for our m&o override um additionally budget balance carry forward um those numbers are estimated at proposal and adoption and then finalized with our AFR that we submit in October so we had $3.9 6 million more in budget balance carry for than we proposed um and adopted with the original budget so all of that kind of together um got us an increase in budget limit for M of$ 5.57 million which is great okay oh back to me now we'll talk about the revised um unrestricted capital budget capacity so same grid here uh it's just District additional assistance rather than M so that first row uh you'll see the fy2 24 Revis number two versus adopted which was an estimation uh and then 25 revised one so the 39 the $390,000 difference we made a judgment call during there during proposal and adoption um we in we increased our um formula by $390,000 uh when the budget sheets came out it was on a different line so you'll see it on line three the $390,000 so it does wash um it's not a decrease necessarily and then the daa to M as Lauren mentioned um that transfer is no longer uh and then the budget balance carry forward we adopt in July and we still have uh um the fiscal year ends June 30 but we still have July and August to pay bills and then we wrap up that work and do the AFR um that's due October 15th and with that increases our budget balance carry forward because of purchase orders that were not spent or um projects that weren't finished so that increased our uh budget balance carry forward by 3.4 million and then interest earned this is exciting we can earn interest on Capital last year 420,000 versus um estimated million but it's actually 1.17 million and this particular issue is is very important to us we we created a strategy where all of the revenue we we received from the state and the local um taxpayer first goes into unrestricted Capital so that we're maximizing that interest earnings because as you know in ml we do not receive we receive interest but we can't spend it in unrestricted Capital we receive interest and we can spend it it absolutely increases our budget capacity so that's why we're doing this so it's part of our strategy to make sure that we're maximizing resources great thank you for that so from adopted to revised one an increase of 5.58 million any questions before we move on it's awesome to see an increase instead of a decrease okay some notes on other funds um M and unrestricted Capital are the big ones but um as we kind of go through the year and you see the monthly reports you'll notice some other kind of categories that we talk about so that's what we want to talk about right now um instructional Improvement fund classroom site fund state and federal grants CTE specifically fund 596 and then nutrition services and Community Schools um we wanted to point out the three that are circled here um state and federal grants from adopted to revised did increase by 8 almost 8.7 million um majority of that is because of the completion reports that were done and submitted and then approved by ad um remaining funds that were not spent in previous projects are able to be carried forward with some exceptions of course um but that's the majority of that 8.6 million in state and federal grants and then nutrition services and Community Schools um increased because of that budget balance carry forward estimation so at adopted uh we were pretty conservative in what we thought we might carry forward those funds um and we ended up carrying forward more than we expected which is um always good news so um those are the the big ones that we want to hit on and again you'll see these um in the monthly reports and the quarterly report that we're going to talk about next so thank you one question on that sorry if you mentioned so under state and federal grants yeah can you talk just about the process why and from the revise number two to adopted did you drop 10 million so that is going to be due to that same carry forward thing so carry forward process for the grants so most of our grants end 6:30 um and then we have 90 days to submit the completion report to ad with that process um whatever money that we don't spend is then carried forward into the new Grant term or the new project we don't like to necessarily anticipate that carry forward at adoption because none of it is guaranteed until we get that um completion report process all the way through ad so we like to be um we like to hold that back and then when we revise we include all of those numbers hope that answers your question funds too oh that's the other thing yeah so in FY 2024 we had Sesser 3 funds still um about 12 9 10 9 10 million um in Esser funds um and those have since been been spent um so that's another big piece as well I wanted to point out too before we go further into the average teacher salary we are not obligated to present to you a revised budget at this point in time um we're only required to revise the budget if we have overstated our budget um and we have to do that by December 15th but fortunately we're adding but we we believe philosophically that we should make sure that you guys are up to date throughout the year so you know how much money we do have available and that when we're doing our projections for next year we're St starting from the base that you already know about versus and as as you can see our budget across the board has increased substantially and so that you all should be aware of that so I just wanted to share that yeah and we like revising the budget we do it's fun right so next we'll talk about uh FY 2025 average teacher salary so this grid was from the adopted budget and this is because again in July we we don't know who's filling the seats yet uh this is straight just a straight data so fy4 67052 was the average salary of all teachers um we added the 2% that was awarded by you all for the compensation increase moving into 25 that brings us to 68 393 and that is just data now we use the revised budget average teacher salary uh we use the October data after everybody's kind of in their seats and the dust has settled a little bit um and with that we can see that it has decreased over over the um adoption uh because uh of attrition um teachers are retiring and we're hiring in newer teachers uh so even though the 2% was awarded um the the increase on this grid is 7% uh this also includes the 67 520 for the current year includes $750 of pay for performance the $1,200 appreciation stien that you awarded and an average of about $1,600 in additional stiens that they are eligible to earn for extra various duties and then if I could add so um since we awarded a 2% but what we actually realized was 7 so that difference is all going to fall to um budget balance forward when we complete this current year and then we're preparing for next year so I wanted you to know that we have two turnover savings here that we will be able to use as ongoing money that will help us balance the budget for the um 25 26 school year so keep that in mind that's it's it's worth about a million dollars of ongoing money that we will definitely assign to ongoing uh against ongoing expense okay just to give you an idea [Music] and just as a reminder this is an action item 7.01 and we do require your signatures on the actual budget document so stay in your seats uh and that concludes our presentation are there any questions okay I've got um a question um it Al it all looks very positive right money where we more money than than we thought money where we thought we wouldn't have money so that the I don't say the pessimist in me but are there any areas of concern that we as a board should be aware of or areas of concern that you as uh the uh accounting folks are are concerned about something that maybe I don't know it just seems like everything's so positive and I'm just kind of like okay when's the other shoe going to fall is there are there any areas of concern that we are we should be we should be uh aware of yes yes maybe not in our budget but we're always concerned this time of year when the legislature rolls through because we just working off of a of when we calculate for the following year and we budget we working off the governor's budget and we know it's [Music] it's it's a wish list more than anything but then it has to go all the way through the state legislature so we don't know where it going to come out at the end so when you hear these folks talk about next year we're always going to probably plan for the worst and hope for the best I guess is the best way to put it that's why when we're looking at projections for uh student loss when we're looking at possible salary increases we will be on the conservative side and contracts will be going out you know I think it's March 24th is is that around because remember state law says now they can't go out until March 15th but we're on spring break and so we have to wait until they actually come back um we don't know if there'll be any increases on that we've done this in years past saying based on what the legislature does will determine what we can give for an increase and that's unsettling for all employees but it's also probably the best way to utilize the information we have and not overextend ourselves so as Jackie and Lauren said coming back we're not revising a budget that um we overshot our dreams I guess the best way to put it so when it comes to budget that's always my major concern this time of year um but in terms of the current budget I don't see anything but these folks might well and I I will say that right now the news is very good with our revised budget and all the money that we just shared with you is in our pocket so right now we know this is what we have and we can anticipate that we'll have probably comparable to that same budget balance carry forward of around $20 million so for us that's good news because that gives us even more more flexibility going into the next year versus having to reduce $10 million now and then like oh my gosh and then if the legislature doesn't come through oh my gosh what are we going to do so at least it sets us up in as in as great of a positive way as it possibly can as we move into the unknown and then we'll just share the unknowns with you as we go through the next few months thank you does anybody have any other questions for well I have one thought about you're saying and that is just that our timeline is that we're working on our budget we're adopting our budget before the legislature makes those final decisions and so it's just I mean conservative assumptions I these three have always done a wonderful job of um being very accurate in their uh predictions of what will happen and and so you know it's it's it's just the way our timeline works is that we're going to get our budget together and then we're going to find out how much money we get from the legislature so it's a little a little backwards I would say well thank you very much for your presentation are we moving into 2.02 yes sir all right 2.02 fiscal year 2025 monthly financial report thank you and second quarter Financial year-to date ending December 31st 2024 did it kick you out okay good see see she they they have to verify her security too it's not just me yes sometimes they your right so um the through December 31st not only represents the end of a month but also represents the end of the quarter we made a commitment a couple of years ago that we would also give you information about Revenue as well as expenditures and comparing them to the prior year at the same time so we're adding a few slides to this presentation that represent that quarterly um look back uh for for our financial information so as always with the monthly report we share the grids so you you notice these are for those of you that are new you notied on the board agenda item you have two items one is the presentation and the other is actually the report so the report always includes all of the categories of funds whether we're going to talk about them or not here in the board meeting whereas generally we only include the specific grids on the presentation that we're going to say something about for tonight because this is the first time that we've presented to all of you as a new board we went ahead and put all of the grids into the presentation but we're not going to to talk about them all we're only going to talk about the one that we have the ones that we have yellow highlights on so I just wanted to give you a heads up on that so you will you will expect to see changes every month where we think there was something notable that changed month over month that we thought we should share with you so just wanted to give you an idea of how we're going to move forward so today we're sharing the district operating funds which we always share with you uh the Federal grant funds the state Grant funds as well as the bond funds um fund 630 and then the first quarter I mean the second quarter we made an error we made an error sorry about that the second quarter Financial so that's your to date December 31st we'll share the year-over-year comparisons of revenues and then the year-over-year expend uh expend expenditure comparisons thank you for putting that out so this is the district operating funds and you can see from M and unrestricted Capital you see the pending budget revision number one which is really what you're going to approve tonight it's still pending though until you actually approve it so we'll change that to Revis number one for the next monthly report but we always share maintenance operations and unrestricted Capital because those two uh funds change every month as our schools are spending down their discretionary allocations Etc but you can see that all of the available balances for both M and unrestricted Capital have increased because of course our revised budget has increased the one new one that we've highlighted is e- rates so every few years we do receive reimbursement from rate that's for something that's not our annual or regular connectivity costs associated with the Internet or with phones or something like that so every few years we actually go out and spend money on stuff so it's considered like Category 2 so um uh technology Services last year completed the network refresh so that's equipment and additional cabling and stuff and so we just received a $2.2 million reimbursement for those expenditures that occurred out of bond it's great news for us because it gives us some flexibility we have a lot of discretion on spending our e- rate monies and So speaking with technology services with John Castellano we are um considering a proposal on how we would be spending that additional money over the next couple of years so I just wanted to share that and then this is just the details of some of the stuff that I already shared with you so we generally do that we give you the grid then we give you a note page so um this is the federal grants just wanted to share the sr3 as you you can see um it's totally spent um and we only noted it because we did complete the completion report by the deadline which was December 31st and we actually have received the reimbursement of over $9 million um to date so we're just wanted to point that out and then the the other Federal projects so a note about this we were awarded H sort of informally I guess an additional $40,000 Grant associated with um nursing equipment and uh we received notification on Friday that we probably will not receive any of those money so we didn't change it though we decided to leave it in there and that of course we'll have to revise that down for the final budget revision which must be r no later than May 15th okay and then State Grant funds um so there isn't anything highlighted on there so then uh and then the Enterprise funds there's nothing to share here uh but the other funds just wanted to share the employee benefit trust funds I shared this a little bit with you on Friday which is one of our other areas of concern to answer your question uh Mr Thompson the fact that we've had a couple of bad years in terms of of our employee benefit Trust claims um so you can um we're highlighting that just so that we can give you a heads up that we are expecting to draw down fund balance in the current year by somewhere in the neighborhood of $3.5 million we are deliberating we had a meeting today with the employee benefit trust committee they will be meeting again next week and making a recommendation to the formal trust board on the 13th of February and then that will come to you for final determination of what the premium rate will be going into next year as well as the impact on the district's budget okay so school-based funds again we're not going to share anything there and the only reason that we're sharing a little bit on the bond fund is that in December and this was before the three new board members took their seats but in December we did approve a purchase um of Transportation Vehicles so statute was changed two years ago I think allowing School districts to buy a yellow bus that's smaller that doesn't require a CDL bus driver so um our uh director of Transportation Mr Trace tolby he wanted to take advantage of that it's actually much easier to find drivers that do not have a CDL and so he's been he's already purchased a couple and he he's purchasing three more and so we expect to have those added to The Fleets by the end of this year so that they can be utilized next year giving us again a little bit more flexibility Transportation what's the difference in capacity oh my gosh it has it's um they're 10 10 passenger buses versus 54 or 68 or 80 so they're quite a bit smaller yeah they're on the they're on the side of our size of our activity buses which generally hold 12 um generally we're using them for smaller smaller runs though for special education Etc so thank you for that and then that's it for the monthly Financial are there any questions before I move on to the second quarter financial report okay if you could go back to page three there's a line item fund number advertisement could you talk about that and the difference between the adopted budget and the revision and what what are we using what what do we attribute the increase in in those funds from do you guys know what the increas is from I'm assuming it's budget balance carry forward but it is when we adopted we used an estimated number so when we brought in the revision as Lauren and I talked about um the 27 is inclusive of what was left over last year um and possibly some new Revenue I don't not sure it was interest an interest yeah there was interest earned in that fund last year um and so that's most of honestly most of the the difference we were estimating based off of um what we anticipate um year toe but we had a a sizable interest earnings in that fund last year so and what sort of things is the money in that fund used for so I can give you the example so we had a meeting in cabinet and we all deliberated over this and um um Miss maai she Don she said hey I could really use some resources to continue our efforts to Market our schools and try to make sure that we're increasing enrollment and so that's why you see that uh $20,000 encumbrance it's actually all in in her budget right now thank you okay back to the second the second quarter Financial so again year-to date revenues again just wanted to make sure that we're sharing we never share revenues except when we share the quarterly report and the revenue story is always very interesting interesting in the state of Arizona because the state with withholds a significant amount of money from us until the end of the year in which we call it the $30 million rollover um they use that as a budget balancing measure oh my gosh 2015 16 something earlier 2012 yeah so this is born out by looking at the operating Revenue by source so you can see if you look at December 31st 2023 versus December 31st 2024 the revenue picture looks very much the same year-over-year but but note that um to date we have received a toal total of 151 million in the current year which is only 47% of what is expected so why is that oh my gosh we're half we should already have half of our Revenue well that's the reason is because of the fact of that that rollover so for Gilbert public schools that rollover is there are two pots the rollover is worth about $34 million to us so we get that on January 2nd I mean July 2nd I mean July 2nd right after the fiscal year is over so that's really the story on the revenue and this just shows it by the sources um one thing that you wouldn't necessarily expect is that we do have Federal monies into in our um maintenance in our operating funds uh that's the other one one thing I wanted to clarify we're not talking about all of our funds districtwide we're only talking about the operating funds so that's that first grid that we share with you every month um but we do have federal funds that go into operating funds which means we have a great deal of flexibility over those monies so those two funds are eate I just shared about the extra $2.2 million and then also Medicaid so we receive Medicaid reimbursement from our special education services that we provide to special education students when they are U Medicare Medicaid eligible okay so um this is the operating Revenue by fund you can see as you would expect that M would be the largest amount but note that year-over-year a year ago we had most most of it in M whereas in the current year we have more of it in unrestricted capital and M splitting that so that again is that same strategy I shared with you earlier every revenue or cash amount of money that we get we're putting it into the unrestricted Capital fund so that interest that's earned on that cash we will be able to increase budget capacity accordingly so that's the big difference between the two years there and then that just shows it by fund and then finally the year-to date expenditures so you can see again that our expenditures look very very comparable to how they looked um a year ago note the expended encumbered a year ago was 338 and this year the expended encumbered is 358 so that's primarily due to salary increases um as well as in unrestricted Capital so you can see and then the benefits the benefits have increased a little bit there was a slight increase in um in the uh Arizona State Retirement contribution um just a slight increase because a year ago we had a year ago was when we uh prefunding pre fund yeah so it looks looks about the same but you you should expect to see salary increases because you did award a pay increase going into 2025 okay and that's all we have for today and we're here to answer any questions you might have I have to ask question I have to ask this question I don't want to get too deep in the weed so if you say Jill that's too complicated um okay we can earn interest on our unrestricted Capital funds if we earn interest on our maintenance and operation funds we can ever spend that is it does it just sit there if we earn interest on that money or so we're definitely earning interest on it and um a couple of things I'll say about that so if you recall we had the Quasar judgment that hit us because of cash the Quasar issue is a cash issue because we had the cash we did not have to increase our our tax levy to our taxpayer we had excess cash and we used that excess cash to pay that that judgment so that's how we can spend it if those types of things occur in the future um but no generally we do earn interest and yes it just sits there there okay that which is craziness yes I was going to say the legislature needs to address that but I'm glad it was there when we needed it so we didn't have to uh seems like that would be an easy thing for them to fix to and they they allowed the charter schools to spend it so it seems only fair that we should be able to spend any interest earnings so well I I personally feel they don't really understand how public schools are funded very well that's my bias okay can I just real quick I just wanted to thank you for all your work and I I think the lack of questions just speaks to the preparation and the great job you're doing and so appreciate all the work thank you thank you very much well done all right thank you very much moving on to 2.03 secondary grading practices feedback planning and communication Dr McCord thank you president Thompson governing board members we're bringing up a team I'll let Dr Cox introduce all of our friends and and the subject matter Dr Cox is the director of secondary CIA now she the running joke is that she actually thinks she's a CIA but she's not culum instruction and assessment and um does a fantastic job but they're going to talk talk to you today about secondary grading practices the feedback planning and communication and where we're at today and we'll list at those same things from you guys Dr Cox thank you good evening Dr mcord president Thompson and governing board members uh the CIA does have a nice ring to it I get more interest when I uh introduce myself that way so um I would like to introduce the team that we have here this evening so I'll just kind of go down this is Shannon haigi she is an an English teacher in department chair at Highland High School and then we have Shannon Carter who is an instructional coach for mosqu junior high school and recent math instructor and then we have Mr Tyler Dumis who is our principal at campy high school so we are really excited uh the four of us also were members of the grading committee that we have reconvened for the third time in the last four years um to continue the work and so we're going to spend this evening going over the history uh we recognize with three new board members we were just excited to kind of share some of the work we've done with the the new team and then um really the the core purpose of this presentation is to really get into what this year's committee has done and um what steps we've identified to take action on to just continuously improve our practices here in Gilbert Public Schools so getting us started uh when I talk about the historical context uh just put a little bit bit of context up there but this work does go back probably even further but um for my knowledge 2018 2019 I know that there was a lot of work going on in regard to mindset and best practices and um what I would consider um the traditional conversations annually around grading that happen in the classrooms and so as we were having that conversation and mindset work um obviously we led into that next year 2020 2021 um which was an interesting year uh with covid and during that year we learned a lot and um it uncovered a lot of things that we may have thought some of our best practices were in place and when uh teachers were expected to teach in grade digitally and students it really uh forced us to look at things through a different lens and uncover some things that were happening uh that we probably wouldn't have noticed um prior to that just because it kind of put it right in front of us so that led to um we were seeing different data points and evidence of things we recognized that we needed to do something about it and take action so in 201122 uh we created our first secondary um grading committee actually at that time it was a K12 committee uh but our elementaries um handle things a little bit differently and uh when we looked at that from a K12 standpoint that was when we created our Gilbert public school's grading beliefs and practices uh handbook and um um prior to that in probably 2017 18 we had started the work with our instructional framework and um we realized that a lot of the things we were pushing out to teachers were maybe in silos and that was around the time that we realized we needed to look at everything our evaluation our teaching and learning Maps our instructional framework they needed to be aligned and so grading is a part of that we wanted to make sure our grading practices aligned to everything else so that teachers um can operate at their classroom more efficiently and um that the training all is aligned so that they don't feel like they're getting hit with different tasks that don't um work together so then into 2223 we recognized that it okay so we created this handbook now what and so the 2223 year we really worked with our secondary schools um every school was in a different place so there was a lot of training a lot of focus on building up our administrators and our leaders to make sure that we all understood and that we were leading the training and then we really trusted our campuses from 22 and 23 into 23 and 24 to evaluate where they felt they were at with the different practices and meet the needs of their teachers because all of our campuses are very unique and where they're at and um that continued on for uh the last 3 years and so each year um we have continuously developed the teacher training and in 2223 what we learned after a year of trying to implement was that the handbook was a great guide but it didn't really include what to do how to do it and we needed to really hone in on what that training looked like so you'll notice that um we then created an appendix guide and I will make reference as I'm going through each of you this evening were provided with a folder in there when I mentioned the handbook that is included and then the separate appendix and resource guide that was created after we learned that we needed to have better training that's been included um and that was through the lens of having a common vision and then creating consistent and common training to make sure that all of our schools and teachers were having the same understanding so when we started with rolling it out we wanted our schools to identify where they felt they were at and um after a couple of years of that we went from teacher understanding and then we wanted to make sure our plc's were consistent and on the same page so if you had two nth grade English teachers they were on the same page so if a if a student switched from one class to the next they're not vastly changing the way that their grades are being reported so then into uh this school year the change that occurred was that we went from just plc's being consistent to wanting our campuses to be on the same page because the same thing is true if you have your English Department doing one thing and your math department is doing a different thing so again we have spent the last 3 to four years really ID identifying that this work can't be done overnight so we had to start on building the teacher knowledge admin knowledge then it turned into that consistency development so this year uh a few a few of our schools have gone schoolwide um a few of our schools are at the place where they are really trying to get departmental and so this was the year that we recognized we're probably one more year from having that districtwide consistency cuz that is our end goal and where we want to be because what we found is that every time we think we've created consistency what happened this year is that then we have some schools that maybe schoolwide have the consistency but then we get phone calls because we're like well what are they doing over at Campo or how come this campus is doing it this way we want our students to have it that way and so we recognize we're at a point where um we needed to kind of go districtwide with some of those bigger um best practices so we reconvened the grading committee again for the third time which is this school year and um one thing that we did differently this time around is we invited uh just about 20 parents into being a part of that committee there was more parent representation than there actually was faculty um representation which was interesting cuz we learned a lot from it so we're going to go into that in just a moment um it seems when you look at the trajectory of the historical context that I'm sharing um we really started from like a leadership best practices research like let's learn what we can and we knew we spend a lot of time with our admin because they're leading this work on the campuses and then after that we realized we needed to do more with teachers what has really surfaced as the theme this year and um we're proud of what we're going to be sharing with everybody this evening is really the um need to make sure that we include our parents in our community as a stakeholder in that so we've done a good job of mainstreaming that with admin teachers and now we're to the point where we really need to make sure all of our students and our families understand this and are a part of that conversation as well because all of everything that we do is for our community and our students so uh you'll notice I did put at the bottom there next school year because it is our goal that we will be rolling out everything you're going to hear tonight um as districtwide uh required um consistent pieces so some of these slides uh I already shared a little bit about so I'm going to go through some of them a little bit more quickly um because I did talk about them you're welcome to ask questions as we go and then each of the uh members with me this evening are going to kind of share from their perspective just so you can kind of hear like from a teacher perspective an admin how it's gone for them uh with um moving forward with these pieces so the grading committee this year I talked about what that looks like but to go back to the beginning of the grading committee I just listed out again we started big picture what do we believe in um what are the responsibilities of the different groups what's the responsibility of the building principal our admin our teachers um and then that goes into what do we believe a grade represents so in Gilbert Public Schools we have really four commitments and I don't need to read them verbatim uh but really the idea is to make sure that our grading practices are consistent so that again if the student is going from one teacher to another or from one school to another we can all speak the same language because I truly and firmly believe that that will help with communication to our um parents and students none of this should be a secret our students should know what's expected and what the learning expectations are um and the grades should be aligned to Student Learning not Behavior Uh another one up there is that uh we the biggest piece is talking about communication grades are a piece of communication and they are feedback so are our grades um communicating feedback and how students are doing and so that is an expectation that we have that we want our grades to communicate to students and Families how their students are doing and where their proficiency levels are with the class and then um that leads to what the grading practices that were outlined with our committee work um again retests and redos these are topics these five practices are research-based and best practices there's others these are the ones that are um committee four years ago um recognized that we have to put in to place consistent measures on a campus when it comes to these topics that's all that this means so when you look at some of the pieces up there you'll notice that some of what I'm going to share with you tonight when we say districtwide that doesn't necessarily include all of these things we're not prescribing and um uh outlining what a teacher does with every single step we're going to share with you what we are creating consistently at the district level and then in some of these areas we are outlining and helping schools come up with for their school what do some of these practices look like in um making sure that teachers have the training to understand how to adhere to different pieces so when it comes to homework making sure that they understand um how to use that in the classroom and use it as a a guiding piece in the learning and not kind of like a check off uh we we want to make sure that again we're giving feedback on things that we're um entering into the grade book so that leads me into I know I mentioned the grading handbook and the append document I'm going to turn things over um and let Shannon just share with you a little bit about how the handbook and the appendix tools have been used uh when it comes from a teacher perspective hi um thanks for having me tonight I don't know if you wanted to hit on this or just I'll put that on there okay um so this has been really helpful in what Christa was talking about with just consistency so as the English department chair at Highland um I have had between 27 and 22 teachers um in my department and as you can imagine getting 22 people to do the same thing at the same time is difficult so it's really helpful to have the grading beliefs and practices to kind of fall back to um one of the questions that we consistently say within our plc's and within my department is is that supported by our beliefs right so we always come back to what do we believe a grade should be and is what we're doing and what we're saying what we're grading how we're grading it um how we're giving it to students is it supported by that um and that's kind of our like grounding question um in addition we have if you look through this um like the recommended and not recommended side um what I have found especially with new teachers coming in who um maybe didn't go to school to become a teacher haven't um done a lot of practice with grading right and even even I would say in getting my degree in education there isn't necessarily a class you take in grading um you take some assessment classes um but there isn't a lot of Education surrounding within a program grading philosophy and so having this to kind of talk through grading with teachers is really really helpful because what our default is for many teachers myself included when I first started teaching was well how did I get graded I'll just do that right and because we fall back to what we're used to and not necessarily the best practice so this has been really helpful in driving those conversations with our new teachers about um what's recommended what's not recommended and why and getting them to understand that and then getting them on the same page uh with the rest of the department or within their PLC um and you'll see that it goes through all the different categories that were on the last uh page or the last slide there um in the appendix um and this came out right at the right time uh like Christa said we started getting a lot of questions right about like but what about this and what about this and what does the research say and so this came out and we were able to put together like an FAQ so this is in the hands of all the teachers as well both veteran and new teachers and so you can go to this and go okay well I want to I know I need to give a retest but like how long do I give a kid to do a retest right if they need to retake something from August um and it's May should I do that what does that mean right and so they can kind of come to this first and get some help here and then if they need it they have their PLC leads they have their Department chairs instructional coaches admin to further explore those questions with in addition there is research in here there's some things cited from um different places that help them explain like what the research is behind that um philosophy or that FAQ um you'll see like the formative and summative assessment page kind of helps new teachers understand like where those things cross over um and just helping them continue with having um solid pedagogy for teaching their classrooms because we can talk about instruction um and we can talk about assessment but grading is like that third piece that is is just as important um for our students this is going to create consistency like uh Christa was talking about um one of the things that I I know is frustrating for parents and for students is okay well in this class these are the rules and in this class this is the this is how this gets graded and in this class I'm not allowed to do like a retake you know things like that and um so getting the consistency for our plc's for me and at Highland in our English Department making sure that 9th 10th 11th and 12th at least within that grade level all n9th grade English teachers are are doing the same thing in terms of grading um and their policy surrounding grading and then 10th grade 11th grade and 12th grade all of that is in everybody's syllabus that is something that I check as a department chair to make sure that it is there and also goes to Administration they check off on that as well and then at parent night one of the things that I've done over the last um five 5 years at Highland is making sure that I have um that information in my slideshow for parents that night of like here's kind of the Baseline of how grading Works in my classroom what I did for my department is I shared that slide out so that they could just take it and use it um with their parents but I was um clear about like make sure that you go through this stuff because parents need to have an understanding and so that's kind of where we are now is is continuing that communication with parents and making sure that um there is an understanding for both parents and students surrounding the grading um uh beliefs and philosophies that we're we have and moving to more of a comprehensive consistency so it's not just like okay well this department is doing it but what about our other departments kind of helping get everybody on the same page so sing into a lot of the things that uh Mrs Howe just shared um we talking the beliefs and the practices and how teachers do the grading but that leads into the grade reporting which is actually what is an infant campus and it's what's associated to a student's transcript so for our secondary schools all of what we just shared we do use achievement letter grades and so they're numerical and this helps when it comes to scholarships and college admittance like this is just what we have used um for the reporting in Gilbert public schools for forever so um when we talk about those consistencies and kind of some of the shifts that have to happen it really comes down to and I shared with you all and I want to be transparent that these are drafts we have one more uh working committee meeting that's going to be next week but we were excited to share these with you as a draft and if there's any feedback that you guys have we thought it would be a great opportunity to get that but you'll see on the presentation the two things that came out of the committee and moving toward consistency it is not all the intrical little pieces that are in this handbook it is simply this one pager for junior high High School which you guys can look at those are the pieces that we feel as a district that we do need to have consistency everything else can happen at the school level department PLC level and the second piece to that is the syllabus what we have found through this work is um and I did also include the template of where we're moving toward with the syllabus in the folder for you guys to see some of the areas the committee outlined what these different topics and categories are on here and this again a very driven these one pagers by parent and Community feedback of what they would love and what would make their jobs as parents easier if they just had a quick snapshot as opposed to all these packets of paper so um then that led in when we got into the syllabus conversation you can't fit everything on a one-page document so the syllabus is almost like the expansion where you can refer to handbooks and policies and like the written explanation of some of those pieces so they are going to go hand inand um but the more that we kind of went down the rabbit hole of what issues and concerns we've run into when parents reach out um and maybe have some frustrations it comes back to in full transparency the lack of communication which these are all forms of communication so teach your syllabus similar to what Shannon had shared um often times when you're a new teacher you maybe have a department shair that gives you a copy or you remember what your syllabus looked like in college and you kind of copy it and I'll be honest that historically it's like you have that and then you push it out and you think it's great and you maybe don't get feedback on it and then you forget about it until summertime and then it's the first week back when you have two days to prep your classroom and your principal is like oh we want to see the syllabus we want to get and you just kind of copy and paste the same thing and so what we have found when we're dealing with um uh topics when they come up is often times we look back at the syllabus and there's something in there that's like from 10 years ago and the teachers are like oh yeah we didn't realize that was still in there we didn't and it's not it's not ill intent it's not that anybody meant to do it it's just there's a lot that goes into a syllabus and it's almost like this growing document that teachers um they they put a lot there there's a lot of time put into it and they're trying to put all the rules and practices so we want to help teachers and take that away from them and help with creating it so when you see this template of the syllabus that looks like this one um each teacher in the spring we're going to roll it out a little earlier this year but in the future it'll probably uh be right toward the end of the school year they will get a Google form they will get to put in their bio they'll get to put in their teacher information and then they press submit on the Google form and it's going to generate the rest of the stuff that we want common and consistent for the district so for example if we're talking um absences or if we're talking the configurations if we know that it is the same across the board why are we having teachers draft that in a syllabus when every teacher's voice and their terminology could be different and so we're almost setting teachers up for that push back by not just giving them the same consistent verbage so we have a student handbook we have a course description book um even down to the course description when you look at teachers syllabi they often are creating their version of what the description should be really it should just be copy and pasted from our course description book because that's what's approved by the governing board so any of those pieces that we know we've created and worked on it will autogenerate into the syllabus and then the teacher gets a pdf version that they can attach to their Google classroom and then it will generate a signature page to go home to parents so again when we say we're open to that feedback again the committee has driven what you'll see here but we're not finalizing it for another week or so to make sure that um we have time to get that feedback so when you look at the um configurations part uh I did put a screenshot in the slideshow but I just want to kind of verbally say it for the junior high it will be 60% assessment which is the summative and 40% the assignment which is the formative and at the junior high any class that is a high school class which tends to be math algebra and geometry and World Language if they're high school level they would then stick to the high school configurations which are listed on the high school document so all of our schools when it comes to those categories and percentages will be consistent moving forward and then um again I mean I know everybody can kind of read through it so I don't want to kind of go through it uh word by word but um with that I want to that's just kind of what the committee LED but I do want to turn things over to Mr Dumis to kind of just share uh from a principal and um a site administrator lens how some of these things have gone um and how he has rolled these things out to his campus because a few of our schools this year started the year with this as kind of a practice and so Mr Dumis has spent the year already doing this and so we're trying to learn from those few principles to get ahead of those things for next year year when we go districtwide so Mr dumes if if we could pause real quick I just have one question so what's the philosophy behind um Junior High not having any portion of their grade attributed to the final a final exam yeah just curious um right now we do not have District final exams at our junior high level okay so since they are campus and teacher created and there's not consistency we didn't feel that uh it was an appropriate time to add that in uh we do have a few departments at our junior high level math is one of them that have been uh begging for those final exams and if we get to a point where we push those out districtwide we would consider changing these configurations to match so for those those teachers that those Junior High teachers that do give their students final exams do those just have no bearing on their grade or do those fall into the assessment block they would fall into the assessment block okay thank you but currently they probably fall all over the place correct correct okay um thank you for having me tonight I wanted to kind of come in and just say straight off that this is a been a process for us to get to we started rolling things out in the fall we've I have had personally and I know that we've had as a group number of conversations several conversations with parents with students with staff as to the direction that we're heading and I'm actually really happy with where we've landed uh We've been implementing this since the second quarter with the 50410 as a campus uh and it has quelled many of the concerns that we had from when we started and and I'll take you back to the the differences so in my math department at the start of the school year we were 80% uh we were 80% uh Summit of assessment 15% uh formative assessment and 5% final uh in our English classes were more like 50410 or like it set up here our social studies was in wanting to be in that 6 40 and including it uh we get into science and they were six or they were 70 uh 255 so there was just a variety of different numbers just from that without looking at the definitions without looking at the the way to define what happens in each of these categories and what come out of all of our conversations in particular with our parents is they didn't know some of these school terms they really didn't understand what we meant when we said summative informative and that was a very fair piece of feedback so moving on to the assessment and the assignment and then providing parents with a list of some some example or sample items that could fall into those categories not Exclusive by any means and then coming back in and through so we could start to Define what it looked like and communication is 100% where we were uh as we worked our way through it uh and parents appreciated the one pager that we came up with and it made sense and much of the concerns that we had at that time um were related to two things and one was the fact that we were doing also at the same time that we were doing some grading adjustments and and working on uh getting ourselves more aligned as a school we're also working with an instructional model that had a different way for us to deliver instruction and they bled into each other a little bit so some of those terms got a little bit confusing over time our students have responded well our teachers responded phenomenally and our parents and and my site counsel in particular been very very very supportive so we're in a good spot the data that we've collected and we've analyzed it looks very very good there isn't a change in the number of uh students that are being successful at A and B's we had a as our campus alone had a 1.98% failure rate which I would like to get rid of the 1.98 but that is lower than it has been over time uh we're seeing changes in instruction for all groups of our students uh and changes in results so I've been very happy with that the challenge has just been what we didn't know really that that for me um I I like to barbecue so I thought about this on the way over and it's kind of like now people are getting to know what it's like when the sausage is made we're getting to dive in and understand exactly how ugly that can be sometimes and we don't really want to know we just want to know that it tastes good and we don't get sick from it sometimes that's how it is until we do and then we want to dive back into it because I I understand and parents were very honest I want my kid to have this this grade because of the impact it has down the road with my scholarships or my opportunities and that's very understandable um but at the same time when that doesn't happen and we don't have some kind of structures and standards and expectations that we can have as a as a school uh that are similar we are going to run into the same problem when you know that sausage isn't going to taste so good so we have to work our way backwards in in that and and set things up so that we have a way to communicate um and it just continued to be set up and I would say that as a campus we were further further along than most of the other campuses we've been putting things in place already as a whole uh we have a syab template that we use we had all the departments on board with their specific grading but you can still see the variances that we had uh and then we had variances even in between our plc's or our different groups between Algebra 1 they're just different processes kids won't know and parents don't know how to go about making up tests or replacing scores that needs to be consistent and parents shouldn't have to fight uh to look for it and try to try to make sure that they ensure it the phone calls that we get and the and the frustrations we've had in the past is a lack of knowledge as well and trying to figure out what that process looks like because we will know where that syllabus is on the first day but we're not going to know where it is come February 4th so those are all things that we just had to work our way through um I feel good about where we're at right now I don't think that we're done and I think that uh we have work to do with our staff I think we have work to do with our with our students U the feedback I've received from our student leaders so far has been I get it now we're seeing a higher level of Engagement with the work that we're doing uh and we're beyond the higher level of Engagement students aren't thinking of what they need to do to re just turn something in they're looking at what they need to do to make sure that they're learning and that's the that that's what the feedback has been from our staff as well that they appreciate that aspect of of the work we've done thank you so that that's a perfect segue into what came out of really yes this year's committee but over the last four years that our secondary schools have been going in this direction because we've learned a lot along the way and it really breaks down into two categories uh communication and training and professional development and you'll notice that um on the training and professional development side uh we we recognize that to Mr dumas's point that each of our schools they're still in different places like I mentioned that we started that way but at some point if we want to be able to kind of Monitor and inspect and help we have to have some consistency or else it's like way too much to try to figure out where everybody is at to support them where they're at so we believe that moving in this direction will help us to be able to quickly identify those Pockets that do need support and help and then we can provide more personalized professional development training um our instructional coaches they're asking for this we didn't have that position before so now if our coaches know X Y and Z they can just go right and work with the teachers um immediately we recognize that the training extends even to our parents so working with um and under the communication plan I tried to include the pieces that are for our parents and students but some of the feedback that we got was um even parents not really knowing or understanding how to use infinite campus or wanting to have training on how to access their students Google classrooms cuz we had teachers in the room that would share what they did and we would have parents that were like well not all of our teachers do it that way or um we really haven't ever been shown how to do that and so that was really good feedback for us um and we've already worked with uh different teams uh to maybe put together some some like screen recorded videos to help and um are going to provide that to each of our principles to do as site Council presentations with the expectation that it kind of trickles down in addition to a whole list of things that we want to share with our PR department to get into Shane or Dr McCord's um newsletters that go out each month um so I mean you can read the list up there but these are these are all pieces that we know we can improve and they all come back to training and communication every problem or issue or concern or lack of understanding has come back to these two things so I listed them up there but I would like to kind of remove myself from it and um I'm going to lean on Mrs Carter just for a moment um and then really all three of them to just share when it came to the committee work how they got feedback um how it this work has impacted where they're at in their campus perspective it's easy for me as in a director position to share with you like theoretically and all of these great documents that we've created but I feel like these three are in the field and they're dealing with these things at the site and in the classroom level so um if Shannon if I can put you on the spot to share like a little bit of how you collected feedback and what your journey has been yeah so um over at MOS Jr so after our first committee meeting in December we um got the one pager and at our time similar to Campo Verde we had Greenfield Jr who was also kind of piloting what this looked like so we went off a Greenfield Junior's one pager and I broke it down basically into a Google form for my staff and I laid out the big ideas and just kind of got their feedback on if they would buy into this or if this was something that was totally outlandish that they were like no we we don't want this and so of my staff the majority that came back were super positive I'd say about 75% were like I can get on board with this this looks good um the other percentage was they had feedback was more of the things that we um talked about that would be in the syllabus that it was things like um what about students with special needs that might need accommodations for turning in late work uh what about chronic absences so it wasn't so much the grading practice side it was more of a what is the site going to do to make sure that those things are fair across every subject and so that was the feedback that we got there um the biggest thing too is I really appreciate it under the assessment and the assignment categories there's a lot of things that teachers do that are marked and um on my site teachers didn't have any other things that they wanted to add to it they said that they felt like that definitely takes care of everything that they work on and um you have your little departments like you know PE has feedback that they might look different than the other core subjects and that's understandable but I think it just comes down to everybody being aware of this especially before we leave for summer so that when the training does get implemented right before we come back um when the instructional coaches maybe have um that kind of plan of what that's going to look like um we can already address those questions that they had and so I was really pleased with the feedback that the staff gave and they were very um happy with um how things were laying out yeah um so for us in the English Department at Highland I'm obviously I'm not working schoolwide on this so I can only give you the lens of my department but um we we've kind of been moving in this direction for about four years um because we had a grading committee going on our campus about 5 years ago and then we were testing out some different things in our department specifically and what I can say is that um what I did once we got the grading um beliefs and practices like in our hands the first thing I did um on my department shair day we get like two hours that we're allowed to like meet with our department when we come back to school and I train them so I put together my own PD um for my department in helping them understand the different pieces of this I gave them um all of the research that I could find I um I got a book I put it in the Teachers Lounge and said like this is my copy feel free to take it um and so um you know it's it's kind of like what they say like if you build it they will come right and so like just having it out there for them and in an accessible way they ran with that um I think the the one of the books that we have on grading has gone around our department a few times um and then that inspires conversations um for people to come in and talk to me be like I read this here's what I got out of it here's what I'm going to try um the 50401 percentages that you're seeing here actually is is fairly close to what our department did um all the way across um like you were saying there were there's some tweaks here and there within the PLC so it's that we're going to be able to have some consistency for parents so that it's not well in nth grade it was this and 10th grade it was this and 11th grade it was this it's just going to be the same but the these uh percentages are really really close um the other thing that I did with my department like I said is providing them some language for talking to parents um because I think that a lot of times that's uh what both the parents and the teachers need right is the teachers need to know like how do I explain this to a parent and then parents need to have that in um in a language that they understand too and so providing them with my syllabus and saying here's how it is you can copy and paste this section right out of it and put into your syllabus so we have some consistency there and then the paren ey information I think has also been really really helpful um I also will say that um in doing this we have seen um a really exciting uh uh increase in our data so um for The English Department one of the things that just came out we just examined this data is that the proficiency levels of uh our students on a final exam in 9 10 and 11 12th grade English are almost identical within a couple percentage points of the grade they earned in the class um and that's huge that's a new trend that yeah all of this work that is new um so that is amazing and that was shared out in a um department chair meeting on my campus from my Administration looking at that and looking at what the other proficiency scales are in comparison to from the final exam to letter grades for other departments caused other departments to come to me and so other department chairs now are going okay what did you do in your department because we need that data too and so that has opened up some communication and me being able to just work on one one-onone with some other teacher leaders and helping them figure out some things that have worked in my department and things that haven't worked then I'm like don't do this cuz I said that and it wasn't it didn't help you know um and so that's helping us move along as well thank you I have a question real quick so in regards to the trend of the final exam grade being within a few percentage points of the overall grade what's the what's the significance of that so what that communicates um our final exam is going to show what the skill levels are for that semester for that grade level right it's it's assessing them on the standards and skills that they should know for that semester so um when you're talking about a proficiency scale it's going to show like the student is proficient in the standards and skills for 10th grade they're approaching proficiency or they have um not met proficiency at all or they have like a Mastery level of proficiency and what we saw is that the letter grade and the proficiency we matching so a student who is proficient is not getting a failing grade um or a student who maybe um is showing Mastery level proficiency probably should have a around an A in that class because that's about like the uh parallel we're seeing that those numbers are matching up and I mean she did share there it's within a percentage point which is statistically appropriate uh what we don't want to see and what we unfortunately have seen um historically and I think happens everywhere this is not a Gilbert Public Schools thing is if a student is showing that they are passing their final exams and even State assessments say they're highly proficient and they're getting an F in the classroom it just warrants the question of why like what's going on and it can happen the other way around there could be a student getting an a in a classroom and maybe they're minimally proficient on everything so then we get parent calls in the summer when they get their test scores they're like my students gotten an a all year long and they're minimally proficient on the test what's going on and so we have to do better and when there is a closer alignment it's showing that the grade again is communicating the feedback that hey this is where you're at in learning um so it is really neat when you see that alignment um happen and I I know Mr Dumis that's something that you have seen some of that correlation as well I don't know if you were going to hit on that but maybe you can share just another example in addition to anything else for this slide so I'm a little bit of a data person sometimes um so I did a comparison between the uh the final score and then I did grade distribution so looking at how that went for every core subject for all of our high schools so I just pulled all the data and did it myself cuz I just needed to see um what that looked like in the areas that what what I've seen is a bump from from I would say the bottom up from the minimally proficient into the partially and the partially into the other Prof uh to to the proficient level and then a bump all the way up where that hasn't happened I can tell a story as to why that didn't take place or if it there are a couple of instances where I didn't see the growth that I thought I did and now I've got to go dive into what's going on there then again we're asking the question why so I did that for all of those and then I also looked at year-over-year finals data to try to see any trends that went along with that along with looking at grade distribution from all schools um I did it for the 4 and A2 9 13 and A2 uh and semester to look and compare how we did and because as an educator and as a leader if there was something that this was doing that was going to hurt kids we just i' just spun on it and we' have been going 180 uh it didn't show that at all our students are not only being successful uh they are we're we're pushing from an area that students that typically get a little bit ignored and they're having more success it's like built-in interventions for us um so that that's kind of the the comparisons that I go into but I kind of wanted to share the stakeholder piece for me uh what I would say I needed to do what we had to do we put this in a little faster than I would have liked to um and then when we came back we trained our teachers on it our teachers went and delivered it to our students our students then went home and delivered it to their parents and you can imagine that I had had a few myths to dispel um and I spent the first quarter which I think was the longest of my 32 years in education uh trying to work through those myths I believe I made four or five videos uh to kind of talking about this sending it out to the community every parent that called they had either a phone call back from me or when invited to come in for a meeting um my site Council amazingly blossomed to about 30 people um people were coming in and having conversations but we talked through it I guaranteed them and I showed them the data that show that I just talked about uh as data points over time uh that that was a lot to do to get us to the point um that we are as a campus and with our parents but I also went out and met with every leadership group of students uh I met with a variety of students any students that had questions I went to them um I was presenting to 40 I pulled uh all of our leadership teams our student council our link crew our radiate pulled them all into the auditorium and met with them talked to them across the board uh to answer questions to see what what they had concerns with um feedback from them and a very open door policy so they can come and and talk to me any time the concern was just what I didn't know and what I didn't understand and some of the language once that settled they're settled in and don't seem to be having any any kind of adverse issues right this at this point in time at least that's the feedback that I'm getting from them and then from my site counsel which is back to a more manageable number now um but it was good and it was good to hear back from them because what happened was that listening drove change so where we started isn't where We've Ended up and I think that being uh willing to listen to parents willing to listen to students willing to listen to staff and and legitimize the concerns that that they felt uh gave us a product that I think is good for us to move forward was so so with that I will just share um what Mr Dumis just was hitting on our parent group by the end of our third evening and we spent a lot of hours uh our parents when we showed the one pager that we ended up finalizing and that's in front of you um they were we asked is there anything on here we thought maybe there'd be like some and they were like no that is perfect they're very receptive to it they're excited about it and the quote that a parent had said that has stuck with me is um we didn't even know some of that stuff and if we would have just known we would have known how to better support and guide our students it would have eliminated some of those frustrations and then they go to admin and then they've got to include the te like there's all this runaround and by the time they like maybe did understand it you're two three weeks past something and it it is it still relevant and so uh the parents truly feel that having something like this in front of them where they know what the expectations are for the grading upfront is all they are asking for and so even with the fact that we had some schools that chose to do this at the start of the year the feedback that we got to from them and then also others were if we would have had it a little ahead of time it would have been nice so that's one of the reasons that we want to choose to push this out in the fourth quarter so that all of our families see it now and it does I mean the beginning of the year it's a lot for parents students a lot of information so we do have a plan to kick off that communication pretty short here so um that concludes the presentation that we have but we were really excited to share and um want to answer questions so please let us know um what we can answer for you all well thank you so much that's a tremendous amount of work over several years and so I think this is so great and I think that it really sets us up for student achievement and academic Excellence which you know our main focuses I I think philosophically that's fantastic appreciate you kind of taking the arrows on the implementation side and hopefully other schools can learn from that because I think that's the key and like you said that is um we can have like a a beautiful uh document and philosophy but it's it's how it's implemented um and so I do still have some questions on on that I guess as far as so so a few things so like when we go through and we have like the recommendations uh in in one of these presentations where there's like recommended not recommended so are these guiding principles and recommendations or these rules and and policies and and who's who's deciding that yeah so they are not rules and policies uh they truly are recommendations in um alignment to our beliefs and so um our administrators have been trained and have been put in a place to help guide their teachers to understand those pieces um some of them there are campus-wide decisions so I know some principles like they it makes their job easier if they do have a consistent practice but at the district level we don't we didn't feel it was necessary to to do that so depending on which practice there's five of them depending on which of those five um they they kind of take on a little bit of different direction and I will say each culture of each campus um changes some of that as well so truly uh guiding practices when it comes to that so is that campus to campus is it Department to department is it teacher to teacher like within Highland English Department if a teacher you meet and go over all these scen and the teacher's like yeah I don't want to do any of that and they they can do their own thing so I guess where I like academic freedom like what who decides bottom line like in a classroom what the policy is so we started it kind of goes back to the trajectory of where we've come from so it did start where it was kind of just putting it in the hands of teachers and hoping that they would all magically it would go great um and then we found with the lack of consistency that we did need to go PLC this year currently we have asked that those decisions be at the at least department and or campus so there are some of our schools right now I would say it's probably 50/50 that are departmental and they feel really good in supporting where the department chooses to be there are other campus that that feel their leadership is that they want that schoolwide we have asked them especially with going to a common syllabus because it's more to manage that way on our leaders um and some of it is like nuances so it's like let's get everybody together and see if we can agree kind of similar to what we did from the district lens um we are guiding the campuses to move toward a campus-wide decision on those practices uh just because again it it becomes a lot and if you allow for seven I mean our campuses have multiple departments so say you have seven different practices are you going to be able to Monitor and support that so we're we're to the point where we are going to that campus-wide um but right now I would say it's about 50/50 departmental and uh campus wide and then absolutely so what I did was I the recommended not recommended I changed that verbiage on our our stuff to say aligned and unaligned so that just became where we went but it takes time to get your staff there we started when I came back to Campo started having conversations to get ourselves to that point we will as a school I I kind of think that this is overarching in a way and then the the details is where we get caught up in it by department and every department is going to be a little different so our departments will have guiding documents that will say in this department This Is How We Do retake and redo this is how we go about dealing with missing assignments the parent feedback that came out of that was very very positive that they like the idea that they can just go look so that would be attached to what the syllabus is as well so it will be an expectation schoolwide but how a English teacher does a makeup of a paper is going to look a lot lot different than maybe how a chemistry teacher makes up a lab so we have to have some variance within there but but but it's a great point because it is going to be a little bit different but we have to have a standard that we do schoolwide so yeah if I I guess I should have led with this is this is the issue I've heard the most about since becoming a board member by the the the most number of parents was was concerned about about this and so you kind of touched on a little bit and I guess if if we feel really great about these uh principles and everything the work the committee's done and and I do and I I think you guys do and should be proud why not make it a district policy is that like too heavy-handed or or what's what's the reason to not make it a district policy and to let I think I think you have to the Buy in I think that when you go we have to go slow to go fast and when you say to everybody okay this is the way you're going to do it now you're going to have Kickback and if you work slowly and get people to buy in that they see that this is a better way I think you'll have more consistency and they they'll do it more happily that that may be true that that's not what happened this year though like that's not what happened and I will say that um one of the things that we have learned is that we have slightly shifted some of these documents year-over-year based on feedback that we get from all of our stakeholder groups and I think for the better um so we actually discussed in our committee that we are going to attach the one pager the syllabus and our grading uh all of the practices to course description books so that this is stuff that we continue the practice of reviewing it annually um there has been feedback that was given for example changing the terminology over and tweaking it and so we we don't if we don't have a process where we annually can maybe tweak some things or change up what we believe in um we'll lose sight of it and so now moving forward in November it will come to the board as a part of the coursebook process and the feedback we actually got from parents and teachers was could we even include this stuff in the coursebook so it's all together and I think that's great um I think right now uh when I share that it has been a journey even getting to the point where we are making these configurations consistent um these are I am a person I go like 110 mes an hour all the time and so when we first started this work I actually was like let's do that now I I think I probably would have been run out like we we really weren't at a place where um it was and that's kind of how I feel with some of these pieces right now I feel we are leaning on and trusting our teachers and because the training we have to do a better job of making sure that that training is there to build up and Foster our teachers uh and as professionals like they have a lot that they like this is one teacher who has made a huge impact on one campus and so to tap into that teacher leadership and we think it will be more authentic and then in a year's time if we feel like there's maybe uh two areas that we're like o we see the evidence is actually supporting that our grades are better aligned when we do it this way then we would maybe add some of those things more at the district level to the consistency page that we already have um but right now because we have so many different ways we're trying to hone in on what those practices are and within each of the ones that we do give the district autonom or the campus autonomy to there are if I'm being honest um multiple ways to do some of those things and so until we have evidence and data to maybe show why one way isn't working I don't know that we're at a place that I want to take that autonomy away from the campus teachers and and I know you're I know you're very aware of of of everything I think for me and and I think that teacher Buy in is super important and I think teachers should have input and teachers should have time to come to hopefully a consensus and there'll be some disagreement I think the the problem is from what I've heard and and kind of gathered is that there's not been alignment with amongst teachers there's not been alignment with the teacher and the principal um at certain campuses yet things were implemented and so I think when you have that misalignment but you go ahead and imple like I feel like the alignment should come first and then the implementation um and so I just knowing that this was implemented at a at a small number of campuses this year right and um you know I'm aware of one campus where there's um a lot of issues but I'm sure there was at at several um I'm just worried about implementing a districtwide and and minimizing those issues at every campus well and we we we learn so much as we go through so when I shared that several years ago uh we were excited to give the campuses and the teachers the autonomy to go about this at their own pace and choose which practices they wanted to phase in if I if I were to be honest like I that almost caused more pushback because the campuses and the parents did talk and then it looked like well why are we being expected to do it this way and we're not so again the reporting part of it and like what goes into the grade book and how we do it that is the part that I think we are able to manage and uh Monitor and again it's something we can take off teachers plates so all of this will be pushed out through Infinite Campus with our um technology department and then teachers will no longer have to set up their own grade book so even like there's human error when when we have individuals do that so we really were looking at like what can we do to save teachers time to take off their plate in times that like maybe there's some human error that happens inadvertently um and then we recognize that we could make decision to even push more districtwide but if the if the training and the understanding is not there then it's not authentic and so we really want to our focus is to take that approach of like we need to do a better job of the training so uh we have a leadership team that is made up of teaching and learning uh our other assistant superintendant and we just this last week threw it all out there and our entire PD plan next year we outlined like what are our three top priorities and because we do get a lot about the grading grading was the number one um topic on that so it will be interwoven into everything that we do uh which next year that'll be the first time that we are going about it the way that I'm describing so uh we have a lot of work to do we are really excited about where we've been and where we've come but we still have so much work to to be done so yeah you should be EXC I mean these documents are I mean they're amazing this is what Gober public school should be about so I think it's great um just if just one last because I think for for most most parents and most students they're they're not going to look at these documents right like their question is can I turn in homework late can I retake a quiz can I retake a test and so is there there's not there's there's not specifics about that is that is that still going to be different class to class or Department to Department um it will be consistent at the campus level and that will be in the syllabus so I know I just gave the template but these will expand to hit on all of those pieces that you just hit okay but it will be campus consistent correct Okay and like the principles are all bought into that and yes we did a whole activity with principles um a couple weeks ago uh based on how a committee meeting went with parents to just be real with the principles to say hey we wanted to make sure they were aware of what's going on and Mr Dumis actually is going to be running a leadership series for all of our secondary administrators um since he has kind of of led the way and has a lot of historical experience with this and so he's going to be taking that on that means well I found out today but um congratulations but yeah thank you um but at the same time I I think some of the things that were a little missteps were things that like I said as Educators these some of these terms some of the things that we assume um that led to some of the miscommunication was things that we'd been doing but parents didn't know I mean they're not going to they're going to look at the grade and they're going to look they're not going to see that we've been labeling formative and summative in the in the Gradebook and we've been making some of these changes that's all very understandable but at the same time um I think that we've learned so much that I think that our experiences can really help our peers at our other schools make this a lot smoother the ones that go through the wall first get the bloodiest and and the grayest air I hear you so I I do have a couple questions I I haven't heard as much about that this year because I think this is also something that students have to grow into and get used to because it's more I think our previous grading was more carrot and sticks and this is more you need to do this or you need to be engaged in this you need you they have to have a desire to do it so I want to I want to ask a few questions about things that have been that I've heard um and one was you know what if what if students don't finish work what what if they don't turn things in in that 50% how how do we handle that so we get students on the page of you got to get your work done and you got to do your best want me to answer that sure yes so the 50% and you're talking about the 50% F yes okay so that's a variance across campuses we were all allowed that we don't do that at Campo so under zero is a zero in our grade book okay um but on the other side and this this is a bad it sounds like a bad word it's really not it's a academic intervention but we started calling this is another thing we learned we started calling academic referral but it was a referral for assistance from the teacher to administrators and to teacher leaders that this student isn't engaging in their learning they're getting behind in their learning they're not coming in for help how do we start start there and then that administrator will take that referral maybe just a simple conversation with the student and then we see how they progress next so it's an intervention step for us if that student and we find out that there's something going on at home or there's a situation where they maybe they need some support outside from a behavioral health standpoint we can connect them with the right people on our campus so the academic referral allows I should we we'll rephrase it but it's working on our campus right now because we don't really share it out with students but we just say we're going to get you some academic support so that then comes in we're able to provide some some one-on-one support for that student and then get them on the radar and then check in with your other teachers to see if this is similar behavior in other classes so that's the that's the starting point and that wasn't where we started that was a byproduct of some of the concerns that came out of of what teachers were sharing with us and concerns that they had so okay thank you and so the this another question I had was um I have had some complaints that students don't they're like oh I if I don't do well on the test I can take it again so they don't really study and prepare for the test they take it and they don't do well but then they never come back having prepared to take it again they just it's it's water under the bridge and they move on so how do we address that issue so in in this case this is where we're getting different from we're going from grading to instructional model and instructional practice so on our campus we give an assessment they take it the first time we look at the score then we intervene and we work with building up whatever skills or deficits they have um students technically if they were doing really well and they got a 98% they could elect to go into some kind of enrichment activity we're not there to where we're really good with that that's not a skill set that we developed but that will come out of our professional development for next year so they take the first assessment we look at where they're at then they have some time to remediate and then they take a second so that is built in and it's done within classroom time um that's what we're starting to find that's why I believe we have the numbers at at the students that typically wouldn't opt in to retaking are kind of forced into the retake and they're forced into their own intervention so that's how we've done it on on our campus that would probably look different on different campuses but yes um I do think that that's a concern that every every campus is going to have to figure out how they're going to I mean I think really it's part of the student has to learn that yes I need to prepare I need to study before I take a test um and and if they've done the work they should be pretty well prepared but it doesn't hurt to to have a little review um my other question is um of course we've moved a far uh distance in what we tried to do so so what is the um how are we going to keep this going and helping students and teachers to be on this page of grading as we you know we are going to have turnover we have older teachers retiring and newer teachers coming in and so we do have and I'll defer to these ladies but we have included this is now a session when we onboard any new teacher into our district this is a part of their um onboarding so that every new teacher receives this but then again at the campus level that professional development and working with our pgd department again the all of our departments work together to make sure that we're meeting the needs based on what struggles or training that teacher needs that's kind of big picture but um the two as an instructional coach and even teacher you guys can add to that being an instructional coach I think not having this position before when all this was rolled out it gives me the flexibility to meet with teachers if they come on on fall break like they missed maybe the July PDS um having a hub that those teachers can then go back to look at those presentations but I would definitely say it would become the role of the instructional coach on that campus to be that person that then reaches out I know I meet with a lot of my teachers that are just new to the profession but also just new to your campus they come on they later um they don't have the background that we have so that just falls on then my responsibilities when working with those new teachers for sure okay okay I appreciate those answers thank than you I do think it's something where students are going to have to grow families are going to have to grow and we're going to have to really communicate to help them understand that you know this is a different kind of learning we're we're really focused on you learning and doing my turn um I have a couple questions too a couple of them kind of piggyback off what Jill just said have you received any um feedback or anything from parents Andor students about about the no zero policy because I know I've heard that um depending so I guess I should ask this first is 50% like the absolute lowest that students can get not necessarily so um when you when you look at that part of the grading beliefs it it is one suggestion uh that you can use a 50% when you think of like a rubric that makes each letter grade the same calculation so then they're each 10% so some campuses have chosen to change that setting in Infinite Campus whereas other campuses are focusing on like more of the Learning Cycle where it's embedded in and they do give zeros um and we have a lot of teachers that are I would consider it um uh or research set proficiency based grading so they grade everything off of a rubric so still zero to 100 but if they're using a rubric to grade it it helps to categorize kind of where they're at on like a proficiency scale right so I guess the question I have then is what happens if you have a student who say has earned a 26 did the work turned in everything and then the student who didn't do the work now you have nothing to give them and they get a 50% I guess that's where the confusion is cuz I've just heard that it's like okay well this kid put in the time and the effort but he got a way lower grade than the student who didn't do anything and I would say not necessar I mean I I think that it's a perception that that's what's happening but I actually I'm going to for to Shannon because she as a classroom teacher does use the 50% and I think her valid like real lived experience will help to kind of just share that from like a true teacher perspective so do you want to share yeah um okay so um the 50% Baseline like Christa said is just waiting the categories of the letter grade the same um in order to not like make a grade so um unrecoverable right so that's part of in the chart that you're looking at there's a video that's a screenshot from that video of that research that's done that shows if we're averaging a grade um and a student consistently is getting an 85 and 85 and 85 and 85 and then suddenly misses something for whatever reason that might be they were absent they were out sick with the flu you know something happened they just bombed a test whatever and they get a zero and how that disproportionately affects the grade right um so that's where that is coming from if a teacher is doing 50% um like for for my class for example where the floor is a 50% that that is the floor so there it every every grade that I give there there isn't any there isn't a 26% that doesn't exist right um and that comes from proficiency scale so that's that's doing all the math for like um multiple choice tests for example for like our our district cuas right um those are on proficient skills and um you can think of like the example I always use when I'm coaching my department in this is the act right and the ACT is a is a proficiency scale if you get a 36 on the ACT it doesn't mean you got every question right right that's even though that's 100% um and then the proficiency scale like for the AP exam right is um they they use a proficiency scale so a 50% is actually what you get for pass that's what passing is um and and so just understanding like the difference between um proficiency scale and then traditional grading reporting that is something that I realized right away in implementing these policies that my teachers needed a lot more education on so that is something that I focused on as a department share um just because I have a lot of knowledge in it um this is uh something that I've done other districts I've been in they they implemented this as well and so I had the some of the background knowledge already and so I've been working with teachers consistently to just educate them on the different types of grading and scales and the math that goes along with that for understanding that so I do think what chrisa said like if if that's happening where a teacher is giving a 50% because somebody didn't turn something in and then somebody else is getting a 26% on the same assignment that they did turned in that's a Mis that's a misconception okay yeah um so but then the question is if they are able to do something over and over and over again then that it the floor of 50% may not necessarily be necessary because if they got a zero and you say you can redo the assignment then they should be able to earn x amount of points so if you have the rules of assignments can be turned in as many times as needed or whatever the allotment is cuz it says right like regardless of how slowly they get there so I guess that's determined based on campus and syllabus um it's still just I don't know it was just very confusing because it I have had the experience where it has has been a little bit where it me it it messes with things it doesn't necessarily keep it even Keel so I was just curious as to why you know if you're allowed to turn things over turn things in many times over and it doesn't really you know doesn't matter then why bother with the 50% floor when if to me it sends the signal to students well I get 50% whether I put in the effort or not yeah if I can jump in here I I I think I agree so there's two two schools of thought one is a 26 is an F no credit and a 50 is f no credit so whatever your floor is if it's if a student's doing doing some work and getting a 26 or no work in getting a 50 they're still both failing right but I do agree that that this um that this grading method which includes retests and allowing students to turn in missing missing work missing work late work things like that kind of makes the the the the 50% floor obsolete there's no there's to me it doesn't really seem like there's a purpose in having both because like like uh like you said said if they can redo it then it's not going to be a zero it's going to be whatever the teacher the teacher allows and then um and then I I also understand the the perspective of you know it it it doesn't make it it makes it easier for a student that wants to to turn on the gas towards the end of the semester to catch up maybe they they had an epiphany and they're like oh man I need to get my life together I need to catch up and now I only have to catch up from a 50 from a 50 instead of a zero um I get that but then also our our teachers do have the the flexibility to offer those students whatever work they want to and grade those grade that work however they want to so it's it's yeah I see some some philosophical issues with 50% being the floor and when in when in when combined with with the the beliefs that we're trying to that we're trying to get all campuses to adopt so I am I anyway so I'm going to say that I agree with what both of you saying there not a there's not a difference and I think it's how we're going about getting there but we allow zeros but I also so when we started this I knew that my staff would probably really I they did and I knew that they would push back on the 50% off um so we went a different route and I said you're going to have to get to the point that now we're doing retakes now we're having extra opportunities so we did that in said very few times will you see a zero in the Gradebook because kids have multiple opportunities to do it the other part that we do have to worry about our teachers is and what I've found over the last couple years is that teachers were H having until the end of the semester to make up work and that's taxing on teachers so we do need some deadlines we do need to set some deadlines so we've moved this year through this process to when the unit is completed that's a last opportunity for you to make up that work so it just we just need some deadlines and and and they're I mean they're hard but if there's an situation they're soft so I don't think you're wrong I think that the way that they're doing it um at Highland and In Pockets at different places on different campuses it's not wrong necessarily it's just that philosophically to get my campus to move as fast as I wanted them to move we had to make this other aspect of what you're describing be prominent and be something that we all agreed upon and that's where our staff went right but if the goal is consistency across the board if there's 50% over here and zero is over there and your students are having a harder time being able to hit the gas and make up the difference and your students aren't doesn't that kind of kill the consistency coal I I would agree that it would if if we were in a situation where teachers weren't actively going back and we do test replacement too so we're looking at um how we did on that final unit exam and did I get a 40 or a 30 on an assessment that was covered the same standards down the road then we'll go back and replace that because that covered that standard and and at some point in time we ended up getting to that point so you know not everybody finishes the race at the same time we want to get to that end when that unit is completed whatever that final grade is can go back on our campus and replace grades so um there's just there is just a lot of intricacies I think that that's a conversation for us going back to Dr robison's question when there are some pieces that when I say where our different campuses in their culture are at I will say even with that there are some campuses where Campo it was very much like we're ready to like enforce the Learning Cycle and test retakes and they had uh Bank of extra tests and they were good we also have campuses that are more stressed about the test retake and have not had issues with the 50% because in their world they don't have extra tests and they're like well who's going to create these extra tests for us to do it so that's where with some of these pieces with having the recommendation and not and really trying to support to some extent where some of our campuses are it there when I say that there's different ways to get to some of those things from my perspective I care more about um being within those parameters of the best practices and again when we revisit in a year or maybe in two years from now maybe we get to a point where once we have some of those more tests created and um we are uh doing some work groups with teachers um um even our common uned assessments that we're creating there's a lot of work being created right now that we may be having a totally different conversation um in the future but for right now depending on where some of our campuses are some of them again are very passionate it's funny because I didn't even plan this but um Shannon would voice one way and Dumis would feel different and that just shows the differences with the different campuses um and and I think at the end of the day it is about like the grade reflecting the learning and the proficiency and truly depending on which um Avenue you take there are a few ways to get there what I think matters most in our for our stakeholders and our community is making sure that it's clearly communicated and that our practices aren't penalizing and hurting students and if we can get to where a whole campus is doing something um consistently and in the best interest of our students um then I think that that's a win and then I think we just continue to have that conversation so right now I still think there's work to be done to even get to where we're um adhering to the things that you even outlined as you were kind of debriefing on that page yeah no I I I definitely think you guys you know are on the right track in a lot of ways I love the fact that um I was talking with curriculum instruction the other day and just aligning things for teachers and having that one pager and having those guidelines so that everybody kind of knows parents know like putting all of the stakehold holders on the same page I think is fantastic so that's you know it's awesome so I was just noticing some nuances that I wanted to to ask that's and I I do appreciate it I wrote that down and I think too uh we did share with the parents uh that are very passionate I uh joked that if they well I wasn't joking but I shared with them that if they wanted to bring a friend to the last meeting and they brought friends to the last meeting so uh one of the things that we are going to continue moving forward is the committee work we are at a point where we do want to include parents and stakeholders in that ongoing and I'm going to kind of piggyback off to something Mr Duma said earlier we truly are proud and some of us have been involved in this work for years um I feel we have made more progress and have made this more meaningful and I'm personally more proud of it and I feel like that is because of the parent and Community feedback that we had at the table and my my only regret up to this point is maybe not including them sooner so moving forward we plan to have them in and I we have a a running agenda and I'm going to add some of the things that you shared on to that to just see uh where we're at so thank you for that feedback yeah I think I think just what you said I think that this um I mean these one page documents are so great and I think it is it just it's not just clarifying it's like substance and I think it really does focus on learning which is the overarching goal but clarifies on grades which are important as well so I think it's great that IT addresses both those things um I I think you know this but I'll just state it like you you can't overc communicate about this and so I I think to all stakeholders I think if just overc communicate and I think I expect more out of our high schoolers than our Junior highers I I don't think you know a couple days after curriculum night for parents we should tell the seventh grade students about a grading policy change but not tell parents so I think for our like seventh graders like and for our high school we should be communicating to parents as well um but I think if we can just really overc communicate over the next months before next school year I would agree so yeah like a chance I have question kind of kind of going back to to these forms so are these going to be you said like it's per campus per Department that may you know may want to use these recommendations so will this this be communicated to everyone and then the Departments or the campuses will decide whether they Implement those direct so everything that's on the one page and specifically the categories and percentages that will be pushed out and mandated districtwide to everybody so our Tech team is actually putting that into Infinite Campus so that people can't bypass it and change it like and the intention was to save teachers time and to eliminate the errors that just happened uh but also to be fully transparent it is for accountability uh as well and we all need that in all areas so it helps us to Monitor and track that to make sure that our what we're saying is actually accurately in there okay so I hope that helps anything else from anyone okay well thank you very much we know this was a real uh a real labor of love um and and pain and sweat and tears I'm sure they'll be presenting this tomorrow also to the parent Council teacher Council support staff counsil as well so great well good well thank you very much um if we have any questions as board members uh followup questions who should we reach out to myself please Dr Cox okay all right thank you again thank you thank you thank you for all your work well done guys thank you uh I don't believe so nope all right that with that uh we will adjourn our work study and we will now move into our brief board business meeting uh which I will call to order and we'll ask um Miss Wilson to uh for roll call Mr Chad Thompson here Mrs Shaina Murray here Dr Blake Robinson here miss Jill humph here Mr Jesse Brainard here Mr President all board members are present you have a quorum thank you very much uh agenda item number five Proclamation National School counseling week turn it over to Dr McCord thank you Mr President govering board members it is National School counseling week and um we really want to thank all of our counselors for all the hard work uh that they put in each and every day I think a lot of times um they think people just assume they're there just to change a schedule and they do so much more than that and we appreciate them and uh just want to read this Proclamation for them whereas school counselors are employed in public and private schools to help students reach their full potential and whereas school counselors are actively committed to helping students explore their abilities strengths interest and talents as these traits relate to Career awareness and development and whereas school counselors help families Focus on ways to further their academic career and social and their emotional development of their child and whereas school counselors work with teachers and other Educators to help students explore their potential and set forth their realistic goals for themselves and whereas school counselors seek to identify and utilize Community Resources that can enhance and complement comprehensive School counseling programs and help students become productive members of society and whereas comprehensive School counseling programs are are considered an integral part of our educational process that enables all students to achieve success in school therefore I Shane McCord superintendent Gilbert Public Schools do Proclaim uh February 3rd through the 7th 2025 as National School counseling week again thank you to all of our school counselors thank you very much I feel like we should have after you made that Proclamation we should like cheer or something like that thank you yeah our school yeah let's do it again we'll reset uh yeah we'd like to thank all of our school counselors they uh help our students a tremendous amount uh moving on to consent agenda item number six I'm sorry agenda item number six our consent agenda is there a motion to approve tonight's consent agenda items as they are outlined on our uh as they are agend presented on our agenda so moved thank you Miss Hum is there a second second thank you Dr Robinson all those in favor of approving tonight's consent consent agenda items as outlined uh please say I I any opposed nay none okay then that passes thank you uh agenda item number seven uh fiscal year 2025 revised rised budget number one is there a motion to approve the fiscal year 2025 revised budget number one so moved thank you Mr brard is there a second second thank you Miss Humphries is there any discussion regarding the revised budget number one I I do want to say that um I really appreciate the attention that um we get so many reports and such detailed reports and we're on top of things and and I'm really grateful for that thank you Miss Humphries I think we all Echo that those sentiments uh any other any any other discussion on this agenda item okay and call for a vote all those in favor of approving the fiscal year 2025 revised budget number one say I I any opposed say nay and that passes 5 to zero great and last but not least adjournment is there a motion to adjourn our meeting tonight so moved thank you Dr Robinson is there a second second thank you Miss Murray all those in favor of adjournment please say I I me opposed all right thank you very much everyone e
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