Yes. So what's the harm of giving it as a courtesy to oncom so if they want to hear public hearing so seems like we have plenty of time to basically say to them hey we're having a public hearing on this you have some comment you want us to consider please submit it for the public hearing yeah it it just can't be changed the wording will be set by that it will be sent to the newspaper by the 4th I believe is the max I mean it's better than nothing is what I'm saying so yeah no it's fine So, um, that was my only comment on that one. Yeah. And most of this is about about what has to get a special permit. It's kind of about that. Everything on here has to go through concom anyway. Like, you know. Yeah. So, they they no matter what we do here, it all goes through concom.
Um I think having an off the offear election there are some baked in advantages based on turnout and what what and whatnot. But I I'm I don't I would not um I don't think it's that necessary to go back and revisit these numbers. I just don't think the numbers played a difference. I think it was there was other undercurren undercurrens there. So I I want to I want to tag off what what Johnny just stated. Um I'll be honest, I was surprised. I mean when our information came back and we did our we did our due diligence um Dr. Croto and company phenomenal approach at doing the the clarity and the just transparency just clear getting out doing the right thing speaking to the troops if you will that was all well that said there is a huge and the irony is we're a school district and we educate people there's a huge misunderstanding of what exactly a bond and or an override What do they do?
Yeah. Anything that happens on the flood plane will be their it's already their jurisdiction. Yeah. No, I get that, but we're changing the bylaw. So, anyway, moving on. It sounds like we're going to hand it to them informally. So, is that what we're we're looking Let's let's go through that first. Is that what we're looking at first? Is the flood plane? That seems to be the first one in the orders. So, the use regulations 8.1.4 and then that 8.1.6 got added and it's it kind of conflicts. So, I'm not sure how that all works because you're like, "Hey, agricultural use are fine and in 8.1.4 and then you go to 8.1.6 and it's like, h, no, you might need a permit." And I don't that just seems odd the way that's written. Well, I don't think so because the first one is about use of the land such as farming, grazing, I don't know what truck farming is, horiculture is actual the plants like you're planting stuff there, but um in 8.1.6 it's it's called it's um placement of agricultural facilities like buildings like you know structures you know things that aren't plants, right?
How is that money used? What do we need? They're not budgeting their money. Daizard has been proven over and over. Meridel has done an incredible job at educating us to help then educate others at how well fiscally responsible Daizard is being. That's not up for debate in comparison to other school districts. So that said, what I've learned and this is from a personal approach. The frustration was and I'll it social media it is a thing. um reading the comments, looking at what people are saying about why the bond failed and they were glad the bond failed because and I'm just going to pick random things, but you know, because the uh the the superintendents just wanted to give themselves a big old raise and you're just reading this going, "But that's not true." So, I believe there was a vote. We didn't lose the bond election by much, but we lost it by enough of a misconception of what it does.
So um the first the first thing is all just about planting water plants wildlife management you're not actually you know fishing you're not actually doing anything to the land I mean I guess I would say if you're farming you might have a fence and that's where I saw and then it does say 8.6 8.1.6 Six is a fence, not just a building, right? But a fence isn't an agricultural use. Farming is agricultural use. Growing things, right? But constructing something falls under something else. So you would need to That's why these are in two sections. If you're just just planting some stuff, you do this. If you're trying to erect something, you're doing you're you have to look at the other one. Um so and actually there's three levels here. The the one the 8.1.4 4 is like I said is the planting the forestry and nursery whatever 8.1.5 is where um is the real like special permit ere building or structure that's erected constructed substantially improved reconstructed all those things comes before the planning board for a special permit.
So people in their unknowing voted no thinking they were doing the right thing when what they don't understand is that bonds and overrides the school district I'm just going to I'm hope I'm correct when I say this if I'm if I'm speaking wrong I it's my opinion we don't enjoy having to use bonds and overrides. I don't think anybody enjoys having to do business the way we do but it's a fact of life. Those first several slides that Meridell went over with all the different those are just the doubles, the bonds and override, that list is long. And I closely watched all the bond and override elections in this last cycle. And you saw some overwhelmingly passed, others not so much. Why? And it was because I feel some of it was the the lack of education to the public. So what that tells me is the numbers are fine.
The third thing 8.1.6 Six was what we were talking about that gosh does the planning board really want someone to to hear something about a fence or a post or a sign? My vote was no. We have a lot of other I think things that we could or should be doing with our time. And so if things fall in that then 8.1.6 six says that it goes um to an FPOD work permit which would be issued by the building commissioner so that we're not having to deal with those things and but even things in 8.1.6 go in front of conservation a fence goes to conservation. So um so they're going to pick up everything even if we're only going to focus on the big stuff. So, um I think that was the biggest kind of change in there. Yeah. And that kind of falls into line with the state was looking for and also what other communities are doing as well.
I agree with Johnny. 127 million that was a defined need. Those needs did not go away. If anything, they just got more expensive. That said, our task is now educating properly. And it's not any one person's fault. I I don't want to take it as a failure, but it that we need to do better at educating the people what exactly are we doing with this and how does it work and that kind of stuff. I'd be willing to bet if you went and pulled the average 100 people off the street, a bond, what does it do? override, what does it do? Most educated adults probably couldn't really define the difference because they say the two together. I was guilty of that before I came on this committee last time because a bond override, what is it? Well, it had to be explained to me. This is what it is.
Oh, I did have one more question. Overall, we were we kept wondering um about that um recreational vehicle thing. Oh, so we did email um email the I did email the um waterways our area waterways. So I think again I gota I gota I gota look into I gota look this is a little bit tricky right an AE all recreational vehicles or campers to be placed on the site must be elevated or anchored in accordance with the zone regulations or for uh for foundation and elevation requirements or be on the site for less than consecutive days or be fully licensed and road ready. So, if your RV Actually, I just noticed something. Um, didn't uh didn't Becca told us to take out A and EA zones because we're not in them. Right. Those weren't in our zones. Isn't that right? Or are those are those zones still in?
We're tasked with getting that out now. I don't think the numbers are that big of a deal. That's just Pat's opinion. But that said, I feel like we're close and we can get this done. I'm an optimist. We can get this done, but it's going to start with educating at the grassroots level. And we have to do a better job of organizing to get to that level. Patrick, that was a really good summary of everything that we uh we covered even in the last committee. Um, you know, through the six months last year, you know, the the the 127 million we we went round and round with that last year of trying to say like is there a way to prioritize the list? Well, if you know, we asked each one of those um even those specialists in those areas. For example, we had uh um Jason Jagger come in here, we had, you know, for safety, Todd Berter came in here for for the facilities.
Those still we have A and AE. We do Oh, those are still in. Okay. Yeah, we don't have V. I think B is out, which is a velocity zone. I was thinking about which is more of a coastal kind of a dune. We took out sand dunes, but also a velocity zone where waves obviously hit obvious if if you're thinking like thinking situate, right, in the big storms, right? Those are velocity zones where you have to build up on stilts. That's a velocity zone, right? Okay. So, when you talk about Sorry. So, A&E, I'm sorry, I was Excuse. So when you're talking about a recreational vehicle, so number one, if you're l if you're Wnebago, right, is fully licensed. So is fully licensed and road ready that can stay on the property, right? Because in the event of a flood, it's drivable. You can get it out of there, right?
There are when when we do when we do look at these areas, we do put time into saying, okay, what is the most prevalent need at this moment right now? Um, for example, something you don't see on the list here, uh, that that the district also I mean, and there's expenses that that Mary Dale will say like, you know, we have to figure out sometimes how to do it is like, for example, if elevators are breaking or something like that, I mean, that's a that's something that we got to have that's operating on our campuses with a two-story building, right? So, uh, for safety needs, but we did look at specifically each one of the areas of the bond and and for example, I mean, you know, just talking about the facility repair piece of 48 million, there was a discussion of the fact that 5 million of that was looking at a a renovation of the auditorium at Daisert and 15 million was restroom facilities um at primarily at Shadow and Willow and then also the uh some renovations to restrooms at Daertar High School and then also even looking at because there was no concession and we bring in the food trucks and we said that could be part of that building if you made a restroom facility.
And I think that's where it comes into then you're looking at the second part. You say, "Okay, um to be on a site for less than 180 days, right?" So you're saying if your site is going to if your RV I'm going to say Wnebago is going to be on the site for greater than 180 days and is not licensed and is not road ready then yes you have to create a um excuse me anchor andor foundation. So what they're saying is yes you have to build a foundation and bring it up to the elevation of that flood zone. So it's basically if you're using one of these maybe as a home. Correct. And then it has to be Yeah. And then that one the zoning will play into account. So this building inspector will have to look at the zone where they are located and then based on that they can decide what is the actual elevation.
So there was about 15 million that was accounting for that. So between just those two that's 20 million on there. Okay, that was 20 million of the 48 million. And that 48 million, if you remember the chart we did, we even did a spreadsheet where we actually did identify every single school of everything because of when those schools were built from about 2003 to 2007 8, you know, somewhere in there seven that those twausing as far as those those needs. So we we wanted to make sure it was there was transparency to what are the true expenses that are that are actually hitting us right now. Right. But based on the committee I mean it sounds like the conversation currently that was a need last year and so you know as Patrick mentioned the need hasn't been reduced. In fact, like Craig says, like just when we say, you know, we identified, I think we we got it and all of a sudden, yes, elevators now came up or there's there's always just something else that does come up that is going to occur in in buildings that are at that 20-y year mark.
Okay. Yeah. Okay. Because I know we were looking at the term anchor and I'm throwing out oh anchor you know is this like a like a moring or what's going on? But really it's a foundation. You have to attach it to the ground. in the word anchor foundation, but that's only in the instance that a it's not roadw worthy, it's not licensed, and hasn't moved off the site for 180 days, and it still rests within that flow. Okay? And so with confidence, I say we're we're most likely there's not there's not any of these in nor slim to none within Metro West that that's actually going to fit into this exact qualification. So I think it's we're taking the words for the state proposed, but that's how you would theoretically implement that that that definition. Okay, does that make sense? Yes. Okay. Yes. Thank you.
Um, but yes, so as Craig mentioned, we did go back because that was the feedback, you know, hey, maybe maybe 127 it was that was that too much? So, we did go back to our directors and just again, let's look what if we really just had to go with half the bus fleet, what you know, replacing that, what does that look like? And what then are the consequences of now having to reduce that fleet? Well, you have you're going to have to reduce your miles, you're going to have to reduce your routes. So, that does have a trickle down effect. And so those are conversations and decisions that are having to be made because that was, you know, the the result of the election is and you're starting to see some of those decisions that are that are, you know, out there. Um, but we definitely wanted to bring this conversation to the committee to ultimately it's going to be your your recommendation that's going to the board um and ultimately their their decision, but based on your feedback.
Any further questions on on that before we uh what what do we need? We don't really need a formal vote on these. We're just we're sending them off. We're just sending the final wording off and submitting them to the warrant. We're submitting them to the warrant. Start the public hearing process. Okay. Um, you know, Alvo will start the public hearing process which is obviously um newspaper notifications budding town. I think technically we should vote for each one to go on to the warrant. That's fine. Right. We need I mean I don't have any changes to the flood plane or the accessory dwellings, but we need to talk about the I do. Yeah, you want to do one at a time. So I'll make a motion to send the draft flood plane overlay district um section 8.1 of Ashlin zoning bylaw changes on to next step of this to be on the warrant.
No, I just want to say I mean you guys have higher positions within the city and within this whole committee, but I will tell you as a parent sitting there being on this board last year and then sometimes you have to let a process fail. And I feel like that conversation at the parent level, what I hear is being involved in sports, being involved in the schools, being involved in doing different things, they were at a basketball game for my neighbors and they had to stop the basketball game because the roof started leaking when it was raining last week and I can't it was the one down grand on the I'd have to get the name of it, but it started leaking and they had to call it and I was like And you know the question was and my question to them was did what did you vote on that bond and you know before sorry but you know I'm just telling you these are the real conversations that are happening and I think you know the buses let's talk about the buses I live on a sante in 163rd and I actually asked why do I have a bus sitting there in front of the fries when all these other buses are running.
All right. Second roll call and a test kendal. Okay. So, that one's gone. Accessory dwelling unit. Um, so there were a few little I mean from last time we basically added on the definitions. Yes. Which I hope someday will be will come out of here and be placed in the definition section of the bylaw, but for right now we we can't do that. We need them within this bylaw. Um, so the definitions were added on there. Um, Kate, I saw that you had a few edits that came through. Um, so yeah. So I had I mean they're in this clean version, the ones that kind of had to be made. Um, the ones that I think are still left. Um, so the 7.64 64 exterior appearance and size. So I feel like the two and the three two where the where the ADU has an entrance on the front facade of the dwelling and ADU entrance shall be secondary appearance.
Well they have to because in case one breaks down. my daughter was on a bus that broke down for two weeks in a row and that that was their answer to that. So you have people seeing the system fail. So the conversation is very relevant. I don't think that I think the number matches the need and to cut it back to me would feel like as a parent, okay, if we needed 90 million versus 140 million, are we cutting a bus out that my child rides? Did we not fix that ceiling that my child couldn't fix? couldn't finish their basketball game. I mean, it's I I think this is the relevant time. And as sad as I am that it didn't pass, I almost feel like it's good at this point that it did because we are so overloaded that the conversations are out there.