If you think about how our buses do to and from and then go out and do extracurriculars. Um, that's another issue that we have. We don't have a whole two sets of buses that can do both. So, I think uh it won't be it's obviously not this 5-year contract, but there's still hope that that will continue to evolve and it'll become more attainable um for um like just a normal school district to be. I will say that some of the school districts that have been sort of out there in the forefront, Conquer Carile has buses. I've heard though that they are in the parking lot. So it is it's hard to it it it makes it makes good environmental sense but from an operational standpoint in our environment it's still sort of difficult to match the need with um how the buses work. Um again it's also retraining the mechanics.
So then we would So then it would move to right. Okay, that would work for compression. Yeah, A to it would be A to B. So it would be, right? A to B and then B to C. And that would help with them attending professional development if they knew they were going to be moved, I guess. So is everyone at How do people move along besides schedule? Oh, you have to leave and come back. No, no, no. Oh, sorry. No, you move on the salary, not schedule because we don't have we have a placement schedule. Your salary moves based on the recommendations for increases in salary from this group and approved by the board. That's how salaries increase. So you stay at A. If you come in at A, you're at A forever. Yep. If you shift to a different position, then yes, you would you could move.
It's all new training for the mechanics. It's the parts. There is a lot involved. So, it's it's a much more comp I've learned so much over the last year, but it's a much broader complicated um um endeavor than just saying we would like to get electric school buses. Where we can start making a difference is our handicap van that does a lot of school transportation probably is going to need to be replaced and we're looking at doing at least a hybrid for that when we do replacement. So it's those baby steps that we can take that we can manage um because that van stays local um for transportation. Um so that is where you'll see us probably try to take a step into that in that direction. Do we have any idea what the total cost for fuel is for the the year for our buses?
Like if you move into a resource position, you might be moving because you're going to a different salary schedule. So all my teachers that been in the district like they came into the district eight years ago and they only they're still a salary has eight years ago. Okay, Kelly. Oh, thanks. What's the difference between if the teacher started at A, they wouldn't be moving from B to C. They would be moving from A to B. So, it's just going to say move from current level to next level. Right. Would there ever be a new teacher? There could be a first year teacher that starts at let's say D if they came in with a certain number of years. Sure. Right. And are are first year in the district employees required to do this cadre? They are. Oh, I know. This is where I think it gets a little tricky.
Yeah, you can if I I could calculate that because there's um there is a base set of miles per day in the contract. Yep. Yeah. Okay. Do we just wonder what the savings? Sorry, I was just wondering what the savings would be. Well, there's but there's there's cost there's a different set of costs, right? Right. So, it's cost benefit. Yeah. Do we know if um with buses I'm assuming they're diesel? Yes. Do we know that if electricity would actually be more efficient than diesel miles per? Well, yeah. Well, it's comparing apples and oranges, but you know, considering the number of times it's going on to number of times it stops, it actually might be there is a case there's an argument where uh sticking with diesel might be more efficient than switching over to electricity. Even though electricity doesn't have you know as we see it the environmental impact from just the vehicle there's al all the other environmental production which I don't I think electricity production all those other things to you know get them in instead of just diesel you know right so I think there's still that's an evolving um uh sort of segment to sort of see but that's you're not seeing a lot of school districts even if they wanted to to convert because of the uh supply um chain and again it's the infrastructure that would stop us even if we could afford to get the buses.
And then it's like if they miss one meeting now, do they forgo doing this step? Well, I think we would have to further define what is successful completion Sure. look like. I I I think typically we're talking about two different things. the the new teacher induction like at the beginning of the year. Ariel, would you mind sitting down while she's sharing? I can sit up at the same time. You're not talking. Thank you. Um, so new teacher induction or Kraton educator induction, that's for everybody that's new to the district. Um but the new teacher cadre is typically really focused on firstear teachers. Yes. Because it's like you talk about uh the behavior management cycle, some of the Moodle things, but you also go through examples of parent teacher conferences because maybe you didn't get to experience that in your student teaching, things like that. Guess where the confusion is is I heard you say typically it doesn't sound like and maybe I'm wrong on this.
Um it's very costly to set up the infrastructure and you need to actually do the super duper charging ones because we don't have time to sit here and do that. So, um I think that was some of the information that we learned as being part of that grant. Um looking into that and understanding sort of the um the different um situations with what the charging stations can do, what we need them to do, and how you have the grid to support it. Right. Yeah. So, we need the, you know, the electrical companies need to get involved and make that investment because it's not something we can do. I see. On a row. Okay, good. Thank you. And if things did turn around in three years, we actually could up to continue. So, yeah. I will say that their plan is so we typically get new buses every contract.
It doesn't sound like there's like you are this employee this is what's going to happen. It's kind of like based on what their experiences were maybe or their level of competence be recommended by their supervisor if they go to this cadre or not. And then are people going to be advocating like well I want to move up a step even though I have five years under my belt but you know what I mean? It just seems like a little topsyturvy. Well, I just want to say that the new teachers are not required to participate in committees to alleviate all of those things and to receive those supports. And so, if they're not going to do the new teacher orientation and not going to be doing in committees and they're going to go up in a in a salary level, what about the rest of the teachers?
So, this spring, they've already actually purchased our buses. So, good thing they got the contract. Um, and so you will see those switching over. Um, they're going to start putting them on the road this spring. I do have a question about that. Uh, especially with it getting colder in the winter and warmer faster. Uh, are the buses heated better or air conditioned? Yes. So, the new buses actually have a preheating um mechanism that are allowing the the buses to um they explained to me and I I'm not going to do it justice, but there is an enhancement to the bus that they will be warmer faster. There's a preheating um setting that will be um activated on the buses. So, that was an enhancement. I have a question. It's a It's a wish, not a do we get our names at least printed the wish schools on the buses?
Is that equal? I was told to sit down. No, no. You were told to stop talking while people were talking. That's what everyone does. We were looking at the schedule and it it it's not much money. It's not much money. It's $1,000, but it reached a point where it's going to cause compression between potentially a first year teacher and then someone that came in like two or three years. We was looking at it. years of experience. Yeah. 2%. $374 to go between A to B and then 367. Are you looking at the certified teacher? Oh, shoot. 12 month coordinator. It's a It's not $1,000. It's a 2% bump. But also think it's actually a 1.9% bump. I also think that we're going to stinky territory where we're going to pay some employees for professional development and not others. But also, I don't think we should be having a discussion on what's happening in new teacher orientation.
No, cuz they're not really our buses. They're serving us because those buses go and do other things other Yeah. We sort of own them, but we don't fully own them. Just give it a sign while they're on or something like that or No, they they own them. Gotcha. Yeah. I will say though, a lot of times you don't really want to have the name. There's it goes both ways of what you're right. Do you want to display it? Um, but you'll see a lot of Michael J. Connley buses or apps. A lot. Exactly. That's the name of the school district. Donna, I've asked this question before. Um, I thought we were going to put uh out to bid how much it would be to add bus tracking. So, we don't have to put that in the bid. um that's software that we would purchase um separately and administer ourselves.
That is above all our pay grades. We're just here to talk about, you know, compensation. I think the option we had originally moving from A to B after your first year, hey, stay another year, you get this type situation. Like I said, and also we you know how much minutes we spend in Wednesday meetings talking about parent teacher conferences. When we sit down and have our weekly meeting with the coach, we're talking about parent teacher conferences. I think whether they go to that hour of training, they're going to be talking about parent teacher conference. So we know we want to thank you. So we definitely are going to keep the original option. So, we're going to do a consensus vote to add the other option and see if we come to consensus. If not, then we'll just stick with this option. And Lord, read the um next option.
That doesn't have to be part of the bid process. Um we did talk about we did talk about that with the um um our bus contact and uh they highly re they highly recommended not doing it. They have had other uh Conley um districts go down that path. It is a huge administrative task and if you don't have a particular reason why you want that information it almost creates another position because we own it. We own everything. We own setting up the system. We own setting up the parameters that every parent would have. A child changes the bus. We have to do all that and we'd have to man any calls that come. So he didn't recommend that we entertain doing that unless there was a real reason why. um a lot of districts he said have started it and have left it because of the administrative task that it is.
Added option. After second year of employment and successful completion of district new teacher cadre, certified teachers are moved from current level to next level on salary schedule. Okay. Thumbs up, thumbs down, sideways. Yeah, because we'll keep the option and then when we go to do our prioritizing, that's when we decide. Okay. Can you read the wording again? Okay. Yeah. After second year of employment and successful completion of district new teacher cadre, certified teachers are moved from current level to next level on salary schedule. Okay. All right. We're going to keep cruising. Okay. Uh moving on to option 10. Option nine was tabled. I don't know what it is in the other one. I'm sorry. I'm going off the long one. I think we're on 13. So, the longevity compensation for two payouts was tabled. So, I'm skipping that one. Um, now we're on to option 10 for the Okay, we're skipping the 25 year.
So they don't make it simple enough to to that it was practical cuz I think from Chering's perspective the since the beginning of the not maybe the beginning of the year but as the year has gone on sort of morning drop off seems to have gotten worse and worse. Um, and I've talked to parents, I'm one of them, why I drive my kid is because the bus was very inconsistent. And you, kids would go out there and be like, I don't know if I missed it. And it starts to get a little bit later. And then you're like, all right, let's just go. Uh, and so most parents by this time of the year are just like given up a lot of them, especially in the morning. And that's just starting to hear to us like if we would know that, then we could talk to Connie and find out are they starting because the elementaryaries are the first runs.
Okay. Contract substitutes will receive. Oh, it was 5%. Okay. Just making sure. Contract substitutes will receive a 5% pay raise retroactive to the 2425 school year resulting in a stipend of 1735 and 12 cents paid at the end of the 24-25 school year to people employed as contract substitutes for the entirety of the 2425 school year. Just a little context was this was like a error. I don't think they are. Well, there are opinions on this, but basically the these employees were classified as classified and certified somehow in both ways and they essentially got skipped on receiving a pay raise because of their classification. Is that right? Okay. Daniel has his hand up. Go ahead. Use the mic. Just verbiage. Could we cross out the uh just to make it clearer and more um correct to like the language that our HR/Payroll would use, can we cross out the retroactive part?
There should It's when there's It's when there's substitute bus drivers, which you never know when there's going to be a substitute bus driver and they literally come 15 minutes apart from each other at times cuz substitute doesn't know the route as well and starts maybe a little bit different. It's not like that's the the you know not the norm but the exception that we have substitutes because we you know our attendance is actually pretty good for our 19 buses. Um but that's kind the kind of feedback if we can get that they are very attentive to any uh constructive crit criticism or um improvements that we want because they are here I mean yeah very customer service oriented. Okay. Yeah. It's probably something I work with them with specifically on routes that aren't driving down the neighborhood streets. It's the pickups on the corner of the busy streets, whether you're on datam or center uh center or Walpole.
Um and then also and then just instead of resulting in a stipend, it would just be as well as a stipen percent equal to that amount. Yes, but the raise would be to make up for the fact that they did not receive that raise the previous year. And so to catch them up to where they should be, they still need a raise on the salary schedule, right? Does that does that so so they're at like they're at like 36 whatever this year. We may or may not end up giving them a raise, but regardless of what happens, they don't just need a one-time stipend. They need to be made up for the raise that they did not receive last year. Does that make sense? So we just I just when I talked to Joel a little bit or Vanessa, someone told me we don't do retroactive.
Um because then you have little 8-year-old, six-year-old stand out there and busy busy street and stuff for maybe too long. So, okay. Well, again, I think um I'll let me know about that though because we can sort of get them to a little bit be a little bit more attentive to that. Okay. Thank you. But yeah, I didn't realize the it wasn't more of a plug-and-play system to track a bus. You can track everything this day system as to like what diameter or what bus um that you that you allow parents to track, right? It's it's like um specific to your student. Yeah, that makes sense for for safety. Yeah. Yeah. It's not just a while, you know. Yeah. Let me see where bus 15 is right now. We don't have bus. Okay. Sir, there is a motion on the back for each committee to award the um your district's public school transportation.
That doesn't make sense. So I just want to cross that out and instead of resulting in the language just says as well as a. Okay. So it would say contract substitutes will receive a 5% pay raise resulting in a stipend of no just as well as a as well as instead of resulting in. Yes. Okay. So let me read it again. Contract substitutes will receive a 5% raise as well as a stipen of 1735 and 12 cents paid at the end of the 2425 school year to people employed as contract substitutes for the entirety of the 2425 school year. So just just to clarify, Daniel, you're not saying electrical noise. Uh so the intent is to make that group whole on the 5% for this year and not to continue a stipen for next year but to have that 5% be ongoing and then whatever other raises come up would be included for next year.