Thank you. Mhm. Yeah. I I love Sax and math. My kids all did Sax and math all all through elementary school. So, and and my understanding is that Saxon and and Singapore are kind of opposite approaches to to math teaching. Um is is that correct? Whereas Saxon is is heavy on repetition and slow on on new concepts that Singapore's a lot of new concepts and not as much repetition. So with that has have we is that true as is that what we've seen in implementation and are teachers adjusting their style to I guess give the repetition that's not provided in the curriculum. There are two extra components that go with the program and one is the fact fluency that teachers have to help build um foundational skills to helps that conceptual piece build and the other piece is let me get it right extra practice and homework.
So there's no ill intent. Nobody was screwed over. Nobody was purposely making a mistake. It's just the unique characteristics of the classification. They're not fully certified. They're not classified. They're in in in limbo. So, I totally follow the intent and I think it's it's a good thing that we provide this. Did the discussion help? Okay, let's do a a revote on I'll read it again just to make sure. Contract substitutes will receive a 5% pay raise as well as a stipen of $1,73512 paid at the end of the 2425 school year to people employed as contract substitutes for the entirety of the 2425 school year. That's 28 38,73569 to improve the intent of it. So I was talking about to We're really intending to do it because it sounds like we're just giving them a 5% rate. I'm sure in the presentation we can, but we've already done the option.
So there are continual components that is something that we looked at as a committee that saw that the program had needs. But what are other some scaffolded needs that we need to complete with having further repetition and further building components and those are two additional pieces that we did purchase in making sure that students have that access. One is available online, one is an extra book available. And so yes, the teachers do have access to those materials to help support them as well as teacher trainings within the teacher material to help support how do we foundationally make sure they are really honed in skills as we oh sorry move through the grade levels. Great. And then are on our our campuses where um we have some traditional and some that aren't traditional are they taking the same beginning of year and middle of year tests?
Correct. Yeah. It doesn't need to be in the option. I'm going to say like the intent of what we're voting on isn't particularly clear. It's just Yeah. when it's um presented. If it's voted on and it's presented to the board, then your intent will be shared. So, that's a good point to remember. Yeah. Well, we're waiting to see Okay. So, let's have our vote, our consensus vote again and see where we come with that. Carolyn, what was your notebook? I would like to find out if we if they got 5% and 10%. What do you mean? I think that's important. I know the other I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. I'm sorry. No, the other the other group of people. I mean, I feel like this could if we're investigating this, we're finding out just now that this happened to a group of people or maybe uncovering that happened to another group of people.
They are taking like tests. We call them diagnostics. This program happens to call them growth measure. Both are a diagnostic and they're both adaptive to measure where the student is. So the students come in on grade level and it kind of dips and grows up according to how the students answer, how quickly they answer. And so they take all that assessment data and from those domains of mathematics and they put them into placements of need for their every student. So every single student would have a program tailored to what their needs are in the mathematics. Additionally, they do take DNA benchmarks that are ASA mimics. So they take the exact same test three times a year. Um so that's a great chance to evaluate where our progressions are. So again to kind of summarize is they've got a curriculum component that's more diagnostic and how can we fill gaps or enrich in certain areas per kid.
I feel like they should be included. Do who who would know that? Joel, is there anyone is there anyone that would know that? So non so noninstructional certified PE sorry give you information that's something we have to investigate that's what I'm asking for the opportunity to do that moment okay to come back and address that but we we follow the classification based on their salary schedule whether classified or certified on the salary schedule for determining races whether they are five or 10 question. But now there's a difference between certified and instructional. So do you mean instructional or certified? No, I'm talking about salary schedule. So what is coach? I don't understand. What is it? What is a person who's certified but not in a classroom? Which which salary schedule are they on? Depends. So if they're a TOA, they're on certified salary schedule. They're certified employees in a certified.
And then we also do ASAB benchmark mimics um that kind of allow us to evaluate programs. Yeah. We have those numbers. Yes, we do. Yeah. Okay. Can I get with you later to see those? Absolutely. I think we're meeting next week, too. Not about this, but I can get some for you. Terrific. And then we have those same things from a couple years ago with Saxon that we can compare to. Absolutely. Yeah. Terrific. Um Thank you. Are there any other questions? I just have one logistical one for you. Um, I understand how hard it is to have an hour math block and get all of that stuff in. So, my question is, are the teachers able to get those extra components in the extra fact fluency? And the other part of it is the online component. When are teachers able to utilize that? Because I know you were saying they're expected to grow that.
Okay. I'm sorry. If if they're certified a certified employee in a certified role, then they're certified, right? Like a TOA, like an instructional coach. So, there are some positions that like in effective schools or yeah, effective schools that have certified people's people in those positions, but they're not on the certified salary schedule. So, they would receive the classified increase. Okay, does that help clarify? And honestly, this is this is the group the substitutes was the one group that didn't fit in a bucket because they're not even on a salary schedule. They're they are on the ancillary salary schedule. So, it's not even um their job description is differently aligned. All of those those things are different. So that the substitute teacher position is very different than any of the other certified classified positions. Okay. Does that make does that help is? And I was just going to add that the way that I figured this out was from talking to contract substitutes, going into the salary schedules, doing the math myself, seeing that there was a gap in the pay, talking to other contract substitutes, and figuring out I had to go talk to HR to figure out if they were classified or certified, what was going on with that.
So it just becomes when because I just don't want to see any other area suffer just because we're trying to trying to cram it all in and I just know from a logistical standpoint it's definitely one of the biggest roadblocks in education. You know what that is something that we did to carefully consider and as a committee we talked about how would we do that. Um thankfully in the master scheduling um the schools have what's called a win time or an intervention time slashenrichment time and that is a time period where they use the the waggle the extra practice the fact fluency and or other materials that are needed to help support students to make sure those foundational skills are solid and making those scores go up. Perfect. Thank you. You're welcome. question. It is early in the adoption period. Have we gotten feedback from teachers, from parents on on how it's going?
And so like if you meet people um who feel like they have an issue like this or if they feel like the pay raise is something is weird, I would highly encourage them to go talk to their union rep and like have like someone do the work to get that figured out? We have 30 days. So Carolyn, um does that conversation allow you to live with it? I guess so. investigated and sideways. Just so you know, does mean that you can live with it. If you still have questions, that's okay. And we're not voting to make this an official recommendation. We're just voting to not table it right now. And then I also Oh, is that what we're doing right now? Oh, okay. I'm um I just want to say too, as someone who lives in that category of I am certified, but now I'm considered classified.
So, this is good objective data. Do we have subjective data just on comparing this to Sax and math or what's the feedback we're getting from teachers and parents? Initially, it was interesting. Saxon was so beloved, you know what I mean? And that was across our East Valley. Um, as I know Chandler made a similar move, you know, we couldn't help that the publisher took it away. Um, however, we heard less negative than some of our surrounding peers. Um, it is something that our elementary CIA team does send a feedback survey to all teachers and administrators um, on a semester basis. So, it is something that we are constantly asking for feedback. Are are our pacing guides doing what they're supposed to or should we adjust? Is our curriculum meeting this need? Are you able to use this as a team? So, we're constantly asking for feedback.
I received the 10%. So, I don't think it's as large of a population outside of this contracted sub. Okay, Amy. Um, the reason why why my thumb was sideways on it, it's not because I don't think that they don't deserve that funds, because I absolutely do. I'm just concerned because we have a very such a small amount of money. I want to be able to look at all the options um and really have a potential discussion about it before I thumb up because the last thing I want to do is thumb up and then oh wait we can't do this one. I just would like to be an opportunity to be able to look at those first. So that's why my my thumb is sideways and that's what my hesitancy is for. Okay. The table that's what I thought. Can we do that? Well, we if that's what we we can at the end, then I guess we'll go back to them again.
Um, and it's actually gone fairly well. Um, I think it's up to us now as we look at year three. We're already planning since we're doing some stuff on I Ready July 17th, which is the when our veteran teachers return. Um, Dr. Martin was great in bringing up like, hey, we should probably do something for math and focus as well to ensure that we're on the forefront. So, we're already in talks with a consultant to ensure that we're meeting the needs um of these teachers in year three as well. Thank you for all the hard work. I know it's a big push and the other math adoption is a big push, too. So, we got a lot on our plates. Yeah, we're hoping to not adopt anything next year for math. Crystal is we've got a lot on our plates and we love where we're at.
So, this one um we kind of came to agreement that we were not going to table that one. So, that one will be one that we're going to revisit today. It's still correct. Okay, next one. Hey, by the way, do we need a break? We didn't have one. Finish the finance ones. Okay. Um, number seven, the district will create a parental leave package with sufficient leave time and an option to reserve days upon return to work. Monetary again, the amount was not provided and that was a little bit complex, Vanessa said. So uh table that did did everyone vote? Okay. So that'll be tabled. Number eight, for the purpose of allocating staff to sites under the district staff ratio 27 to 5:1 students who are English language learners 1:1 um 1.1 um and I think that was seven teachers I guess would be the cost.
Thank you very much. All right, let's move on to our consent agenda. Uh, is there a motion to approve to approve tonight's consent agenda as outlined? So moved. Thank you, Mr. Brainer. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Dr. Robersonson. All those in favor of approving tonight's consent agenda as outlined, say, "I." I.
I don't know why I wrote down seven teachers. And the amount I have was changed after Vanessa shared with us. $514,77. Um, let's have a vote. Okay, that'll be tabled. Number nine, um, psychologist compensation and compression committee recommendations. uh $24,000 which would be 5,000 adjustment to current filled positions. Okay, let's vote to table it or or not or revisit it bullet. 24 on the blue and compression. That was the one that came from the compression committee. So, we'll revisit that today. Okay. Uh number 10, facilities. That was also on the list. It's the 24 200, right? Okay. So, I still want to ask I still want to read it. Um, yes. Oh, I was looking at the psychologist one. Facil um facilities compensation in compression committee recommendations requesting 20,000 to apply to compression as work is completed on salary schedules during the 2526 school year.
Any opposed? And that passes. Thank you. Moving on to our action items for this evening. 10.01 policy development first read of policy 3-102 banking and accounting. Is there a motion? So um so I move that we approve policy 3-102 banking and accounting. So this is so we're not approving the policy tonight. This is the first read. We're just we're it's a first read. So Well, we're approving the first read. Approving the first read. Thank you. Okay. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Mr. Briner. And thank you, Miss Humphre.
that 97,460 was all of those um recommendations, I think. So, we're just looking at the 20,000. So, was that one we want to revisit today? Ariel, your thumb is down. Uh I thought she said we weren't doing facilities or something like that. She said they want to do nurses. So, who is on our facilities then? No. maintenance. What Vanessa said was that the salary schedule is too confusing and all over the place. Then they need time to go and actually do the work of figuring out who needs the money and where and they think that they'll they need about $20,000 once they figure that out, but they're not ready to make Yeah. So they're going to look at it and determine and it's going to be custodians. So ladies, maintenance, can so can I chime in and and Moody, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think like looking at some of the things where we talk about specifically like night leads, night leads make what 50 cents more an hour than the rest of their crew that they're supervising.
Uh, is there any discussion amongst the board regarding policy 3-102, banking and accounting? Well, can we let uh Dr. McCord just go over what that was since it is a first street for our I guess constituents. Yeah, it's it's essentially it says the governing board may establish bank accounts as permitted by statute of the uniform uh financial records USFR. Uh pursuant and I'm skipping down pursuant to ARS uh 15-1121 uh the governing board shall option a student activities treasur and assistant treasurer if applicable. The governing board shall approve student clubs and student organization fundraising events annually by type. And so this is where the change is changes in this uh and then it says see attached exhibit of potential types of fundraising events. In addition, the governing board shall receive monthly student activity fund reports of cash receipts, dispersements, and uh transfers as well as cash balances.
So that's a lot more large roles and responsibilities and you're only getting 50 cents an hour more. Nose goes on that job. BMS the health and safety of the of the school. Uh you're making almost the same amount as a parah. Um, so there's a lot of adjustments in that. And there's trade specialists who are making, you know, sometimes 20 bucks an hour, if that, maybe. Uh, we have landscapers that are making under $17 an hour. Um, custodians that are making under $16 an hour. And then they're everybody that is above them like their night leads like Amy mentioned they're making 30 to 40 cents an hour more. Uh same thing with it's just a there's a lot of areas in there that are you know cross work. You're doing more work. There's not enough people in those positions. Yeah. I want I want to that's why we need you here.