So, be like in a different room in a different room or if there's been other leaks or things like that just to you know, we don't ever want anybody getting sick or anything from from water damage or mold. So, um, that fixes that part of it, but it doesn't fix the roof, and it doesn't fix if the front of that library needs to be lifted up to make it level. Those are all going to be other expenses that, you know, the roof might be covered under this claim, but I don't think the foundation repair, if it's going to need repaired, is going to fall underneath that claim. So, we got a lot of work there to make sure it's done right. um that way, you know, we're not putting anything back until the problem's fixed. So, we've got a lot of work to do on that side of it to make sure that that it's safe there in the library.
Academy the one guy right sleeping there, they're still getting the full day experience. Yeah. So, so next year with doing nothing, we see 30 more students in this building than we see today. Fewer teachers, fewer staff. I know the year after that, the Bron class in what is the current fourth grade sizing was 40. So, you're going to have a similar number, high 80s. Um, because the Bron class in fourth grade is like 46 or something right now. Yeah, I did look into I just haven't. Okay. They're all big. After that class in Boilston, that's 40. They're all in Boilston, they're close to 60. Yeah. 65. And then, yeah, we got and count the new apartment buildings that really probably aren't fully incorporated yet. That report we got for the projection, the NESD report projection shows Berlin growth actually larger than Boilston growth wise, not middle class and and to add 30 additional kids into the building.
So, um we even talked at the start of next year if we don't have things up and ready, if there's still open walls, moving the library to a different room for an amount of time until we can make sure that the problem's fixed. I don't want to go back and put walls and carpet in there if the problem's not fixed. That doesn't make any sense. So, I just wanted to give you guys an update on where we are um where we are with that. So, so the guy that you had come down, have we had him? Yeah. So, I got his name from Tim. Tim said Lemon Lemon. Lemon Mole Lemon. They're out of Salina. So, I'm sure we're going to have to reach out to at least two other places to get, you know, insurance adjuster information from them as well. So, um, yeah, and I have that if you guys want to, this is what he gave me today.
Younger kids too, not you know, mature seniors graduating, but like younger kids coming in just get ready, get used in the building for the first time. with fewer staff, with fewer teachers, with a million dollars cut out of the budget for services that we just approved. My philosophy on school choice now is we have enough to focus on with local taxpayers, kids. We just went through a huge budget. Finance committee is upset with people who are making a pit stop in these towns and taking our public education. Right. This the comment that they made. I just can't imagine a lot of support for adding outside, you know, not outside but just additional students outside of a natural growth that's we know is I think over the next five or six years in Berlin the projection numbers are like 40%. Something like that. It's a blind lottery, right?
This is the the uh estimate that he's given us from that company. If you want to take a look at that, we'll add that to our list of things we got to get done. Um, item number 22, board member reports. I don't have a report, but I have a comment. Okay, you know how we Wilson and do we already? We have not. Okay. We need to probably do that at the next meeting if we can. So, well, we won't. Yeah. Yeah. They'll have the asbest to steal at the next one. I mean it I just maybe I was thinking okay I thought I was here every meeting and I missed it but September maybe after [Music] um and I'd like to mention our walkthrough ceremony we tal Mrs. more mentioned earlier, we had had 10 Sil and Lucas graduates walk through their cap and gowns, one from Lincoln High School and one from Ellsworth High School, I think for our Wilson students, but they graduated from those schools.
So we're we're going to put names. So right now we currently have three six seven eight n 10 applications that of of students that have applied. I don't looked at them. I just know the number we have, right? Because again, it's a blind lottery. You put their names in a hat. I have have a school committee member with us. I'm not sure we've done this in the past. Here's the opening. If if you have openings, here's number one. Here's number two. Here is that. Um, a little bit more data. Again, we put a lot of time into this. Nicole, myself, Lisa, Rich, Renee. Um, I know one of the questions in the past was, you know, to help out with school choice, to help out with um extracurricular activities, sports, and stuff like that. So we literally went through every school choice student and see if they participate in extracurricular activities.
And so we had a nice little ceremony for them for the parents and staff and students to see them again. I think you guys do it here too, don't you? We do. It's such a great school. I think it would be nice to see the high school go to Wilson grade school incorporate that in maybe next year. I think we had talked about that at one time just kind of I would like to see them come more together. I mean, you know, the high school like if they do a in the classroom like to see maybe with Wilson too um things like that you bring Wilson in a little bit instead of pushing him out. Um, Michael said that he reached out to USA for the funding for the tennis courts and actually they called them back about 5 minutes after he talked to him and said, "You guys are actually in a high need area.
It's roughly about 16% of students that attend our district from school choice participate in any extracurricular activities. Did you say 60? 16 sorry one6. So I'm just giving you all data. First time presenting school choice you guys. So I want to make sure you have all that information. Are we voting on this tonight? No. Okay. just I don't I am not prepared to vote on this tonight. I just got this information. Haven't had time to look at it. So I this is like a first. No, this is just a first read. And the other thing that I've been asking for for the past couple years and not to put any other weight on Aaron's shoulders is um it would be great to have some type of cost analysis like what are we actually getting and like maybe total money you know just in a given year total money we've gotten from school choice people and you know estimated expenditures for these specific y if that's even legal I don't know because I know there I'm sure there there's there's the exact exact dollar figure.
So, they might actually get more funding for the tennis courts than what he had planned on." So, that's awesome. That was Any other open agenda items? Okay. Items for next month's agenda. So, I'll give you guys a report on the kicks meeting. When I say kicks, that's our property insurance as well. We'll have some workman's comp numbers for our insurance as well. Um, and then we'll have handbooks and and personnel, too. Um, I looked last year. I think we talked about student $8,000. Anything else? Hearing nothing, I would entertain the motion to adjourn. So motion by Alison, second by Josh. All those in favor say I. I. I.
We can give you $5,000 per student and we can talk about that special ed component. We can present that at the next meet meeting that we have, but there sometimes un undocumented or how do you account for expenses as well too and I'm just giving you examples. Yeah, it's a heavy lift something that he'd have to you might have comes into us with school choice um and Megan Grill comes right in but she needs to see Rich multiple times because I'm just saying it's a blind lottery. We have no idea how to document that, right? How many times they visit Rich, how many times they visit Renee, how many times they go to the office. All of those things we don't document, right? Again, it's a blind lot to where we choose our kids. I'm just giving you all the data and certainly I'll have we'll we'll give you some cost analysis about school choice and whether if they're special education kid, there's a there's a there's a misunderstanding about where that money comes from other districts as well too.
We can provide all that information. I think we g gave that in the budget presentation. Aaron gave a presentation about the funding on that, but we certainly give give that again too. And how many kids are we sending out? How many kids are we losing in school choice? Because NOVA opened up quite a few seats for this year and I feel like I know of at least three kids from Berlin that have gone to Nshoba that are still waiting for more seats that are going to also be leaving. So right now we know of right now we know of the Senate confirmed asking the question. I'm sorry. No, like how many of our students are currently going out of district or school choicing to Bolton to Lancaster. We haven't been made been made been made been made been made been made been made aware of any of them at this point unless they unless they've started much early on like unless they have been school choiced into another district from very early on.
There's really no way of until I I don't know like there there is currently there are currently no 6th through 12th graders that I know that are school choicing out. Um I know several well well they must have been school choiced out before like I've not we've not been got we've not been given the paperwork. So how how so tell us about that. How are you made aware of those kids? So they have to um they have to unenroll them. They have to unenroll. So So if they start if it was sixth grade then they would have gotten the board sent from fifth grade. Fifth grade, right? There's there's also the districts have to talk to each other, right? Because we we got to give the money, right? And so all of that conversation happens. It exists. What's that? Yeah, that that information does exist um in in a database of like school of students that are Burland, Boilston residents that are school choicing at any grade level.
So I would imagine that is something if you're asking Aaron for that kind of data he would be able to so before we vote that I think it would be good to like give Aaron like an email I mean get in a month. So yeah so we will vote on it in June. Yeah. So what do what do you want to know to make a decision? Ask it now. It would be nice to get some more cost out. Beth makes a good point like how much money are what are we paying for school choice out? what are we getting for school choice in I mean I'm just saying like some facts that he has that you know you know about you know what are some additional costs if any you know Sure and along with that doesn't directly relate to school choice but the exit interview that we've talked about that we got information last year to get new information sure the only thing I might not be able to give you on this is is what you're asking for I don't know when we will be able what's sorry she was talking about assets so we I mean we're paying out we're going to pay out for those seven kids going to asette and then those seven people hypothetically the four and the three would cancel out those costs.
I I the other thing I'm not sure I'll be able to tell you just going what Janelle says we know in our district who participates in school chess right now. We can tell you exactly who we won't tell you date, but the grades level. We can give you that information, but for next year. Oh, no. I don't mean for next year necessarily. Okay. I'm sorry. I like in general at this snapshot right now, how many students are we paying out for them to go to another? Yeah, we should have I think I have that. No, Aaron would have to go through the accounting system to see what he's actually paying because I agree with Lisa. How would you ever know unless they you guys aren't gonna you're not gonna report on that once they're out of district? They're out of district. Financial financial thing either.
The town might I know like in Boilston they'll ask Aaron like for numbers and they deal the money like just like in Berlin how vocational comes separate. I don't know if school choice comes separate like if it comes from the town or if it has to come from the district. Yeah. Aaron might tell us differently but the I agree with Janelle. The information exists. You're not gonna have it now. He's gonna have to like research it and see whatever. What do we pay? Yeah. So, I guess I want to make sure you understand this in the financial pieces. I completely get that. Are you looking for numbers per grade? Just in general. I would like to know how many current residents residents are being school choicing elsewhere to another town. And like and if if you knew what town that would be great that information like I live in Boilston.
I'm not going to go to Tanto. I'm deciding I want a school choice to show more importantly with why I think we have that information. So, but we might not because people might decide we might not want that as a as the St. John's and stuff. We have that. Yeah. People that started at Tahanto and then they decide they're going to send to private high school. I mean, there's always going to be people that do that in general. That's right. And and no mist, right? No matter what, you know, there's alumni. there that whole field of alumni, right? My my my son went to St. John's, my father went to St. John's. Some of those things we can control, but certainly we can find out the cost and and what grade levels they're they're school choice. So again, just presenting this to you uh my first time presenting the school choice numbers to you guys now that I know that you're looking for more specific the numbers per grade from Btown and the numbers that the cost.
Yeah, that's perfect. Good. Okay. Before we go, anything else? And we do private schools. No choice. Yeah. Okay. So, by the way, just just for a little, if they go to a private Catholic school, not even private Catholic, a private school, we we don't pay the $5,000, right? Just only if they're going to a public school do we pay that money out. Okay. So, at the St. John's and things like that. And if I if I chair um so I I just wanted to make you aware um I believe there's a school choice um law on the mass Massachusetts general laws that the school committee will vote before June 1st of each year to notify the department of education whether we're participating. I don't know if we're already on the docket because we we currently have school choice people, you know. So, I just, you know, so the slots after you got to participate.
That's what we're going to participate. Yeah. Yeah. So, we're just I just wanted to make sure that we're, you know, we're because Yeah. There's two things you can do. You can either choose not to not to participate or you can choose to vote on numbers every year. We chose the vote. Yeah. Okay. any other information you're looking for for us in the next meeting? Okay, that's good. Great. Thanks. So, the next thing um sort of housekeeping things is the facility use forms. So, our forms are very old and very outdated um and the financial cost that goes along with them as well too. Um so, appreciate Beth catching some of that stuff as well too. So, in full disclosure, I didn't recreate a wheel. We spent a lot of time and money and effort creating this and him and Wilberham. I sort of just took these forms and created now Berlin Boston.
But it literally goes through when you have a hard copy. I'm not asking you to make any decisions tonight. I want you to sort of do a first read, right? We were paying X number of dollars for a custodian um paying them, but we're charging lower than what we were paying our custodian. So, we're losing money every time we had an event that we had to have a custodian here. It just wasn't working out for us. No one really revisited the the cost centers that go along with this. No one ever revisited the forms altogether and and the liability and the assurance that goes along with this as well too. So again, spent a lot of time, money, and effort years ago creating this um vetted through attorneys, make sure we're good with it. I'm now presenting this to Berlin and Wilson to just take a look at and update our forms.