We just did. Oh, they thought we raised our hands to agree to that specific change, but not passage of the resolution. Well, you can have a second vote. Do people Everyone want to Mr. Roberts is sitting on my shoulder. I appreciate that because I'm new at this and I never use Robert's rules in industry. I got a book for you. I'll get it to you. Oh, no. I'm gonna read it. Miss Donald, you may want to look back. Who seconded my motion to approve the I did. Yeah, that's what I was saying. I think we may need to amend that if you're if you didn't truly second that amendment or second that um vote. I did. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, that was a a true second. Yes. Okay. Great. Okay. Um yeah, we can move on to the bylaws. We haven't still taken a vote, Mr.
um and now uh trying to pay it forward um and do great things. Um and the questions they were asking were fantastic of him. It was clear the impact that was being had and uh that was just great to see them them gathered there in that space. Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Smith.
Mhm. So on top of it, we can add the previous informations and the last letter about what is the status of kind of like our housing stock. And what I can do, Alvaro, is I can send you right now the I can cut and paste it out of the prior letter, the part of the history of all of our efforts. That's okay. I have it. So I can just copy and paste it. Yeah, I'll send it to you right now. No, he says he has it. Yeah, I have it. I I thought the previous one, Beverly Street, had a little bit of story that may need tweaking to this project. I can put it up because I have it. We want to just make sure that it is relevant for this. So, I think this is what you're referring to. All right. Yeah. And it's also Yeah.
It's this this week or it's next week. Next weekend. Yes. Yes. Anyway, we will wear these the rest of the board meeting in honor of our loss. Yes. I committed to the rest of the board meeting. Thank you. All right. So, how long they have to wear the hat? The whole meeting. We're We're wearing all meeting. Okay. Good. get it done fast. We can get it done. I'll I'll try. All right. So, that makes leads us to uh get their hands. More reports. So, up first is JC Scott or do I have cards? I'm sorry. Is there cards for their Oh, no. They don't need cards. JC, come on up. I'm sorry. Yeah, I got confused. You spoke public earlier. I will say that my children who attend Srano High School will appreciate you guys are wearing those. Um, speaking of which, um, I will say I would like to before I start my speech honor two of the retirees tonight who um, my daughter who is graduating on June 5th um, had the honor of being in their classrooms, Miss Clark from Phoenix Academy and Miss Olen from Ranchover.
Chair, on the whole resolution. Okay. Is there a motion to approve the whole resolution? Let's It's already on the table. Just take Let's take a vote. Everyone approval, raise your hand, say I. Thank you. I There goes Mr. Robert. Okay, now we're on to the B new bylaws. Great. So, these are bylaws for sustainability commission we're talking about. Yes. Yes. Okay. And what changes happened since the last time we met? Yes. So, yes. I apologize. So, they look a lot different than the ones from last time, and that was the result of me getting ahead of the attorney's office. And so, um, they have been revised to be more, um, more closely matched to what I would say our current bylaws are. Um, so I'll go ahead and share my screen. Share the line version. Yeah. What was that? Are they on legar? Yes. Yep.
Any questions or comments from the board? Seeing none, Mr. Yates. Roll call, please. Roll call. Administrative items. Miss But yes. Marcy, yes. Mrs. Null, yes. Mr. Thompson, yes. Mr. Peeleman, yes. Mr. Bach, yes. Mr. Conton, yes. The motion carries. Thank you. Moving to item nine, curriculum and instruction. We need a motion to approve items 9.1 through 9.6. Do we have a motion? Motion by Mr. Dearcy. Seconded by Mr. Thompson.
Is this a the waverly one? Yep. Yeah. We'll obviously need to go through and you know just make sure it's relevant to the story or context of the site further into that. Yeah. So that we're not um um referring to the pre the previous project by accident. Yeah. Yeah. the site appropriateness concept. Yeah, because that zoning that zoning actually gets into you know the wild limits I think that this isn't this the same thing? Yeah, key zoning. Yes. Yeah. So that would be the but if anything that's your comments can be plugged in on that section and then it can follow in architecture. Yeah. Okay. Well, can I ask a quick historical question, please? Um, so we're going to write this letter because it sounds like there's some violations against our zoning in our town, which we want to push back on. Right. Right. Like the parking spaces are not the right size and they might be cutting down trees that are over six inches and stuff like that and maybe the fire part is not right.
um you are a part of her graduating with honors at Sarno High School. So, thank you for your um support in her educational process. I really appreciate you guys if you guys are still here or watching live. So, thank you very much. All right. So, good evening once again, school board members, district administration, President Sabers, Avooda teachers, retirees, members of the public, and most importantly, my union brothers and sisters of the California School Employees Association, chapter 828. My name is JC Scott, and I am the president of this amazing chapter. Before close session, I stood before you with passion and conviction because my members, your classified employees are hurting and the truth needed to be said. Now I come to you not with a fire but with a heavy heart. The truth is as I stated in the past morale across the district isn't at an all-time low.
Thank you. Um, so you'll see the bulk of the changes are going to be in the membership part in this article 3, the purpose, objectives, and duties. Um, if I toggle, I can't remember. Does it move the screen if I toggle or does it stay on the red lines? Is anything happening? It it moves the screen. It does. So you can see the clean version when I toggle. Yes. Okay, great. Um, so this per this first paragraph is the intent. So the it's kind of the the mesh of the two. So it includes kind of the original language protects and enhance air, water, land, but there's also some wording around um the city's sustainability goals in A20 and efforts to achieve carbon neutrality by 2030. Um and then we move into the powers and duties. And so you'll see that's where um the annual work plan comes in uh the staffled work plan.
Any questions or comments from the board? Seeing none, Mr. Yates. Roll call, please. Roll call on curriculum and instruction. Miss Bowens. Yes. Mr. Dearcy. Yes. Mrs. Nolan. Yes, Mr. Thompson. Yes, Mr. Pelman. Yes, Mr. Bach. Yes, Mr. Conton. Yes. Motion carries. Thank you, Mr. Yates. Moving to item 10, Finance and Operations. We need a motion to approve items 10.1 through 10.17. Do we have a motion? Motion by Mr. Thompson, seconded by Mr. Peeleman.
But in general, why are we what was the decision to push back on this project besides the parking spaces? It's basically it's basically an opportunity for um so the um you know obviously the 40B pro process passes over the planning board and goes right to stone the zoning board of appeals. So normally a big project would come to the planning board not the zoning board of appeals. So, in a 4DB project, it it passes by the planning board, goes to zoning board of appeals, and um the the applications can get a waiver for basically any of our local zoning bylaws. So, it's kind of our opportunity to say, actually, our lo local zoning bylaws are important um and it and and to try to get the project to to honor them in a way. So you're kind of presenting that case to the state about why we think our bylaws are important.
Just like President Sabers stated as well. Our members the backbone of Apal unified are tired. Tired of feeling invisible. Tired of fighting to be heard. tired of being treated as disposable when we've given years, even decades of our lives in service to this district. You say we're essential, but the way we've been treated tells a very different story. We were backed into a corner on health and welfare. We were told this was the best we could do. We were met with pressure and misinformation. And even now, after the vote, our members gave in out of fear and desperation. We've seen no real commitment to build trust, no genuine outreach, no follow-up, just silence. And that silence is louder than any words. Our members have been clear. They feel unsupported, disrespected, and completely abandoned by those who are supposed to lead. Further, when it comes to issues around the school campuses, calls for help are often ignored.
Um and then how uh the work plan will kind of be organized around um metrics to um to determine progress uh towards meeting those um the work plan. Um and then we move into some of the specific powers and duties. Um and some of these have changed kind of based on um maybe staff is now has the capacity to do some of the work that we were doing previously and others it's just changing because now we're addressing both energy and environment. Um and some of like the wording has changed. Um so like instead of sewer we now use water reclamation. Um so you can see kind of some of those red lines as well. Um and then membership will go from 15 to 13 voting members. So we are proposing to have city council be non- voting members. Um and then 11 voting members plus two youth voting members.
Any questions or comments from the board? Anish, can I real quick? I just want to point something out that uh I did hear back from the attorneys for Yale like midafter afternoon today um giving the final okay on our suggested changes so we should be good. Thank you very much Miss Gford.
Got it. So if they came back and they're like, "Okay, we won't we'll put in the right size parking spaces and we'll make sure that there's a fire thing that that firet truck can get in and we'll make sure we don't cut down any trees that are larger than six inches from the setback. Um then we're we're good with it." No. So 4E is kind of like another mechanism of permitting rather than site plan and that goes through the Sony board of appeals and that overpasses. I get that they're bypassing. I understand that part. Thank you. Um but what I don't understand is it feels like we're against this and I'm asking are we and what's the history of it? It's the density it's a density of apartments that's starting to pop up in all these locations. um which is something that I was trying to understand.
We've reported issues. We try to work collaboratively. But the response from the administration, if it comes at all, is delayed, dismissive, or deflective. We're not just numbers on a spreadsheet. We're human beings with families, with bills, with dignity. Let me be clear. This is not just about compensation. This is about being seen. It's about knowing that our value is recognized not just in words but in actions. Instead, we're seeing the opposites. Members leaving. We just had a member quit today. Burnout is spreading. Fear replacing hope. Division creeping. And where unity once lived. This isn't just a union issue. It's district-wide crisis. To our community, to our board, and to district leadership, we urge you to take a hard look at what's happening here. Because if you continue to ignore these warning signs, you won't just lose good employees, you lose the very heart of this district.
Um so yes it would still be 15 but it would be 13 voting members. Mhm. and then the liaison and then uh there we did include a paragraph about um you know the initial membership as of June 1, 2025 and then you know after that with we'll start getting back to the um the staggered start as we bring on new new folks. So it reads the initial membership shall consist of those members appointed to and serving on the energy commission as of June 1 with terms expiring as stated and their respective prior appointments going forward. members shall be appointed to staggered terms. So approximately one-third of the members with three-year terms expire each year. And then um this is not new language, but we just moved it around. Um and then you can see a lot of this is similar. These articles I just took out the review of the bylaws on an annual basis.
Any questions or comments from the board on item 10 finance and operations? I are you I wanted to ask a question about art. Is art going to be on a cart? No, our art our will be moving to and this screen here. I just want to make sure the staff know this so I'm not Am I sharing something right now? Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. I'll just I'll just leave it like that, but but they'll I don't I'm hesitant to share something that I'm sorry to ask your question. Very important. We don't want art on a cart here. What about computers? Yeah, computers, as was explained, will be on a cart. Yeah. Oh, computers are okay. Not a designated room. Okay. Yep. Any other questions or comments from the board? Seeing none, Mr. Yates. Roll call, please. Roll call on finance and operations. Much mowitz.
I I kind of searched for projects which were rejected by zoning board of appeals to see what were the conditions where zoning board of appeals rejected a 40B application. One of the applications was because of the density. Um, and I couldn't find a rule of thumb that I could say, you know what, this is 4.9 acres. How many units can you have that that means the footprint can be shrunk? Um so in that project that I read the zon uh zoning board kind of reached out to the applicant and asked to reduce the density of that project which meant that reducing the footprint and the applicant did not heed to that particular case and they did not come back to the zoning board of appeals with an updated project or footprint. So the zoning board of appeals literally rejected that project. So that was one condition that I saw uh and I could not find a rule of thumb like what is it per acre that you can say how many units you can because it felt like 4.9 and what this was like 120 units 116 I think it felt pretty dense so and but I couldn't figure out what is that rule of thumb that we could come up with.
CSEA is still here, and I know my Avuda colleagues are still here. We're still willing to work hard for you, but we can't carry this weight alone any longer. It's time for leadership to lead. Not from behind a desk, but from a place of empathy, honesty, and respect. Remember where you guys once came from and where you started. Humble yourselves once again or dignity, community, authenticity, and service means absolutely nothing. In solidarity, JC Scott [Applause] Thank you for your comments, Mr. Scott. Up next from Mavuda is Karen [Applause] Sapers. Good evening, Superintendent Nelson, board members, cabinet, President Scott, and audience. My name is Karen Sabers and I stand before you today as the president of the Apple Valley Unified Teachers Association. Ava would like to congratulate all the retirees and wish them the best in the new chapter of this book of life. You will truly be missed and I can't help to think about all the history of our district leaving with you.