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good morning big Hollow today is February 26 it is the 13th day of school today this is the view beach news I am Achaia and I'm Lily today for lunch there will be breaded chicken fatty sandwich tater tots carrot sticks orange juice milk and ketchup two different front first well there will be many bagels capital city the answer is Springfield the winner is Alex and you lose Horner's class come to the office office to pick out your price today fun fact today's fun fact question is how many items are there including dozens my brother needs certainly and can include your name in class responsibility is the R and R star expectations let's see how our friends are showing responsibility Kanan GE says I am being responsible when I am being apart said and mrs.
Lucas in his class says I know I I'm being responsible when I I look after something that I don't lose and now we will observe a brief appearance of silence to reflect on the anticipated activities of the day please check please stand for the pledge I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all nice job good job guys I love it yep just yeah put him back up the first the front way so that way we know we've already done them I'm gonna try to finish them up all right let's push this board on those cards put those cards along the side of the wall push that board straight against that wall just push slide it straight into that wall
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good morning big Hollow today is March fit fit that means there is only 15 days until spring so it is the 118 day of school this is w ph e news I'm Ava and I am emmalin today for lunch they will be chicken strips roasted potato wedges green beans peaches milk and cookies drama breakfast their movies waffles graham crackers peaches apple juice and milk we have no one celebrating birthday yesterday some bet question was then what movie is the main character's name pulp the answer is coming food and the winner is a dingy and this is Cassidy's class come to the office and pick out your prize today's fun fact question is Manzana is the Spanish word for what foods include your name is less responsibility is the R and R star expect expectations let's see how our friends are showing responsibility Cheyenne says I'm being responsible and this is Johnson to bring back home melody says I'd be responsible by walking in the hall quietly and now what he loves a repeat of brief periods as of Chewbacca mantissa and activities of the day please stand for the pledge allegiance to the flag of United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all thanks for watching
good morning McCollum today is March 7 that means there is only 13 days until spring it is the hundred and twentieth day of school this is WBZ news I'm John and I'm Fiona today for lunch there will be many french toast yogurt cucumber fresh potato apple juice syrup and milk tomorrow here exit breakfast there are weak hard-boiled eggs animal crackers fresh apples unset' juice and milk we have know it celebrate we have know it celebrating birthdays today yesterday fun fact question was what popular candy claims that you can taste the rainbow the answer is skittles the winner is Lily and Miss buggers class of the office have picked out your prize tonight's what that question is if something is solar-powered where does the energy come from remember write your answer neatly and include your name class responsibility is the are at our strong expectations let's see how our friends are showing responsibility michael says responsibility is taking care of your things shaddup says responsibility is what you are cleaning up after yourself today is day two part testing we know you are working very hard and giving your best every yourself and your school please remember to be quiet in the halls all day this gives everyone the best chance to succeed during the test keep focused show perseverance the whole top and show perseverance the whole time that means never give up we are big Hollow students and we can do it please stand for the pledge and now we'll observe a brief period of time perfect to reflect on the anticipated activities of the day please stand for the plunge I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all have a wonderful Wednesday and remember kindness comes every day anywhere thanks for watching
[Music] and then I [Music] good evening ladies and gentlemen today is Tuesday March 6th and this is a special meeting of the Brookfield Court of Finance if you would join me for the Pledge of Allegiance pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation indivisible okay we will start the evening with our first public comment I would like to note that this meeting is to review the Board of Selectmen proposed budget so with that we'll be going through revenue income will be going through capital and we'll also be hitting the at least the finance department tonight okay so with that do we have any members of the public that would like to make comment [Music] okay wait just to the podium comes and then state your name and address for the record sir yes sir come on roster Channel six big buckling Brookfield Connecticut my only comment is I went online to see what was going to be discussed tonight so that I wouldn't come in here ignoring to what you guys were going to be talking about and I couldn't find anything that that was online so I would say that if you're going to have a special meeting if you would post what you're going to be talking about online so that the residents can look at it before they come that would be most beneficial and helpful and would eliminate many questions thank you thank you is there anyone else that would like to give comment okay hearing none let's move on to new business mr.
[Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] good evenin board members and committee members we represent the fourth and fifth graders in the mountains nearby Metro club our goal is to help keep the spoil on your mat beautiful learn about review reducing reusing and recycling and how to maintain the garden and other green areas throughout the school we also participate in field trips and other fun activities where we create and make food through our gardening we have learned about caring for plants and have even come across lizards worms grubs ladybugs and cocoons and on your table you will find some super king sundaes please accept this give any symbol of the fans you can find in our garden we also like we all also like to offer you some fresh herbs that were growing right here in our school garden we hope you enjoy them thank you [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] okay so I'm sorry one more round of applause please it is March 6 2008 een we are here for the regular meeting of these UC Unified School District and we can please have everyone's sounds nice [Music] thank you and poor liver journey well the question I remember you little Vegas vineya vice president here here tonight we are on approval of the agenda what are the wishes of the board - these are votes Nessus 5-0 they are now moving on to recognition and awards and again we're here at Mountain View it looks incredible thank everyone for coming down tonight we do have a spotlight on Mountain View Elementary so Mountain View we're going to give you the floor once again yes I just I'd like to I'd be happy to map the community to incredible thank you very much [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] now moving on between 5.2 the recognition of our student or cannot be here tonight we need to make sure that she resumes her and then is Alisa evolution Villegas and she was beautiful for my last on high school and she [Music] [Applause] [Music] oh that's good we can have some car tonight [Music] patience and has ever since I have [Music] this year [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] the second program we have is personal growth and these are 14 pages at her feet in their junior high experience and that event is on May 1st and then in on April 28th we are targeting the junior and senior girls in high school so continue to work with the district to ensure that the students Christmas and have these opportunities as well now on to citrus which I've come to speak about frequently I have two programs or two-person ORS or the board tonight one of the brochures actually focuses on our Energy Fund which you passed about 14 years ago and so we're almost finished using all of that barn money but there are handouts I only have handout for the word but I could certainly make sure that they get to the district office the second piece that I have is on our visual and performing arts every year there's an opportunity for students our [Music] the opportunity to secondly your kids would have an opportunity to get involved in whatever field they would life including spam which is very popular and so I wanted you to know that just because your spirit starts with us as citrus that they do not end their academic life is because tsipras was just awarded we are the second in the state and our division [Applause] [Music] I [Music] [Applause] [Music] because their program nasty rotten silver situation that occurred I'm not sure how many teachers retired but this was to have a budget deficit now just because it was similar situation and I'm really not understanding why at the last board meeting there were four members who spoke of their sentiments regarding their decision however there was no information as to why each new member I understand we're not running around in social [Music] we teachers and staff find solutions and work together [Music] [Applause] the teachers [Music] I have never made [Music] [Applause] [Music] - stupid psycho Vietnam be a concern of ours is with all the budget cuts our children's education because this is on either side [Applause] [Music] good evening I'm joking that one side from home technique video when I went to the superintendent roundtable around January it was disclosed to us that they are planning on the closure of the school and our school mountain was never mentioned last week we have which are [Music] open how they are going to be or how they're going to again imagine how are you going to feel a severe down the school option now we can I'm sure the board can find other ways [Music] [Applause] [Music] we're all free of charge our largest contributions for an area and beautification of our school there's a lot of work that goes into Monday internetworking the only one community and support and we realize the important investment education for our children and we're going to show our appreciation and gratitude involved doing our part we have known the district to consider moving our kids to different other amenities we might have not have to have to be an improvement that they would only end over here [Applause] [Music] most relaxed industry and when she would also mean [Music] [Applause] [Music] high school [Music] [Applause] [Music] I have I attended the 7-eleven committee meeting last week and just you know nobody has been picked they're actually these there's a group of people that are students that are teachers administrators parents members of the community they were people we're not doing it they are and they are being presented and they're being very very meticulous and very very picky and asking a lot of questions but one of the thing was I heard from them when I was at my meeting is anybody here from all of you so we have the meeting on the website this Friday at 3:30 at district office and the PVC meeting okay they'll there will be a meeting if you'd like to come in and talk and you know 3:15 thank you so they want to hear as much input from you as possible so I would suggest that everybody who wants to go talk and that way we had engaged all of you the entire community so that they can make a really reasonable decision and of course Lisa Hager it all works out it works out that's a tough job but thank you and I appreciate all the time that you all put into your schools and remember those days so and your son is not oh I'm a journey right now yes I just noticed the Bank of Israel one of us was inhabited and beautiful the connection and engagement and some creating different classes and the outside so I also was part of the whole 7-eleven Service Committee which I attended just over Sedona process I was fishing for you it is vital again everything said the stakeholders to make sure that this whole process is meaningful in the sense that it's been vetted through all of the interested parties who may or may only be impacted from the whole decision ultimately right so we're waiting for that process to complete obvious thing from there it's a comfortable based on recommendation that the committee is forward so and for me I'm much going to detail so when we talk about process as we had seen one of the commission members wanted to do instead of being worried about why I voted against last time for me is the attention to detail right so when I evaluate something I want to just see the results not that we doubt what the outcome is as to whether or not we've done everything possible to make sure that we are examining the intent and the objective is to save on the budget okay elimination what is aspect of that is the same on cause the same if we're now gonna have that detailed information I'll have questions about those things right so if we collectively deciding to say that there's gonna be savings so show me how the other component evidence that the data the data adjust shows the fact that if it's low enrollment so what does this tell us is it the fact that it's low enrollment because what the facts show as it states or was it there's something that we haven't done in our part to make sure that what has been reflected in the data is the accurate data so if it's not 100% accurate reflection of what the students do and what they decide I am questions about them so visiting the lgbtq and the student driven committee I evaluated and I just saw a lot of the interest in the service that's lacking in our district in my heart I would never subject a student I'm always willing to have much more services within our community so look no matter how much that's going to impact the budget I would just sort of do all the best that I can to make sure that we save those a budgetary standpoint okay so how much how many of those are being impacted that we're gonna assess from the budget so some of those positions are also made by already so what is the breakdown you know that and because I think important information and discussion to have again the process is in the detail so the other thing is timeline yes March 13 is a deadline yes so we do have a one to one ratio about our temporaries that we hire and fire every year could there have been a system in which we have evaluated that perhaps that board would have decided to lower that ratio to something else so that's another question that I have which has not been provided to me as well so mr.
Dunn will take us through the Board of Selectmen proposed 2018-19 town budget going through this in some detail so I put together a brief highlight that will listed what I see as the main drivers [Music] come on so as we look at this this is what I see are the drivers we have a lowering of state grants that's about 0.47 percent of our overall budget the grants are based on the latest cut from the state as to what exactly they're going to give us from OPM that could still change insurance is up to hundred twenty six thousand dollars is our estimate and that's a point three six percent growth special education on the school side is eight hundred and two thousand dollar increase which is one point two seven percent of the total budget and the veteran is you know literally which we're adding back in is point seven seven percent almost one percent and salaries increases both mandated by contract and otherwise our point three four percent of the budgets we're total two hundred fifteen thousand dollars the total of these items is two million twenty four thousand dollars which represents three point two percent of the overall increase of the budget we're not asking for any new staff this year we're not asking for any major changes we are fine-tuning the budget to make it more accurately correct the real numbers as we see them as we go through that when we tighten them up from year to year so that's pretty much it we don't understand where the state is going to end up so we have kept the contingency fund of four hundred thousand dollars in case the state does cut our grants more or we get more special ed expenses it could happen and otherwise our budget is pretty much straightforward but it was simple very similar to the last few years no major changes at all I'm sorry there is one change we did ask we are going to ask for about twenty thousand dollars to do the if you remember last summer we did the hazardous waste recycling here in the parking lot four hundred and some-odd residents of Brookfield took advantage of that HRA was able to absorb the entire cost because they get a lot of fees from the from the haulers and we'd like to do that again this summer if you look at the very behind the very first page of your on the agenda it shows this is a breakdown of exactly what happened at that it was very very well received and I'd like to do that again it would be about twenty twenty one thousand dollars in expense it's not me this current budget its intubated it's in there yeah and that's your new ask yeah that's the only major change that by [Music] just make it all small I'm having a bathroom who so the numbers that we're talking about from your budget overview and drivers obviously tired of this main yeah this main militate page yo yeah that's where they come and you're saying that the five drivers that you have make up 3.2 percent of what's presented there your expenditures [Music] if it's correct they would have any general top-line questions before we move into greater detail or finite stuff okay all right so so I would like to explore each line of revenue sure while we're here so if you could just take us through your assumptions your backup let's say for each one of these I'd be extremely helpful yeah sure the current taxes whereas there's 63 million three hundred thirty thousand that's driven as a result of the increases in the lowering the state grants that numbers of number that you live that's a number we would need to raise if we're going to have a balanced budget and we don't change this budget at all prior your taxes are pretty close to what they were the year before our tax assessor Tax Collector think they'll go up a little bit supplemental taxes are going down a good bit and that's primarily because the people last year they thought with the changes in the tax code they wanted to pay their taxes as quickly as possible so we got a big bump in the payments that means this year we're going to get a little bit less in a supplemental so that's why that's going down and our tax collector but it's been pretty good at running these numbers so that's gonna go down from a budgeted last year 535 thousand down to three hundred ninety one thousand interest lien Zippy's remain the same this is our estimate on that and the forty eight thousand four telephone access is what we've got in front of state and the supplemental taxes yeah a lot of that is driven by vehicles right almost all of its vehicles when people register a car after October 1st right then it rolls into the next fiscal year and so we send out the bills and it takes a little while to process and so that's why we got that pump because people went found out what their taxes were and then paid them in last year so what do we do as a town to make sure that everyone let's say who lives in town or Connecticut right registers their vehicle here right we have we have students in the schools we have people that live here and I know for a fact that there's some folks that do live here that have out-of-state plates but they have a residence here and they send their children to school here what are we doing - well on a pinch right no one wants to pay more taxes but if you live here your vehicle should be registered in Connecticut and you should be paying your taxes so what are we doing to make sure is there an audit process in place no not really if somebody notifies us that somebody has a car a vehicle that is seems to be in Brookfield all the time and they know it's owned by somebody who lives in Brookville then their kids go to school our tax assessor will take that and approach the property owner and say listen I think you have a car here that should be registered in Connecticut oftentimes what you see is these cars registered in LLC's names it's a very tough tough one to go you we're primarily relying on the honor system that people are doing the right thing I know a friend of mine has a business in Danbury and TAM Barry's pretty tough about it and he also has a business in Brewster it's the same business but it's incorporated differently and occasionally his vehicles will move from Danbury to Brookfield and vice versa and he got tax bills from Danbury for two vehicles that spent the night one night in damper but they're really used almost exclusively in Brewster so he went through the process and explained to them what happened and they took that off it's it's not an easy thing to do thankfully it's not many but I would encourage everyone if you know that someone has got their car in their vehicle and they live here the kids go to school here this is their residence because a lot of people do have houses here who are no residents didn't tell us and we'll go after them is it something where we could join forces let's say with the school system where we require re-registration and use the registration at the schools and make sure that those folks are have vehicles little trickier because the schools does have privacy rules that they can't avoid right they can't be telling us all Kevin got these eight kids here in this school and this is where they live but they do they also have the same problem with students coming from out of town I think it's been done in other places let me let me get my bearings about me to find out I I know it's been done other places with school registrations used to drive supplemental taxes so let me we can look at that let me let me look back into that and let you know where the okay the past the precedent is New Canaan okay they so it's been done in this state and if we're in a pinch like we generally are this is a big problem I want to know that it's not a big problem I don't see it I don't see a lot of out-of-state license plates driving around I just know boat registrations I ever fall into that category as well the painting property tax on the back you know so I pay like 40 bucks in here on my trailer we don't charge you people for their golf carts now most yeah well our new tax assessor we strive around down and there is a community that has a lot of golf carts and those are personal property and their taxable so everyone she found she sent out a tax bill we have some very irate residents but fair is fair did he own the vehicle it's your book wheel it's got value to three four thousand dollars you should be taxed on it and two people came forward and said I didn't know that and told her they don't know although she didn't know so that's a good thing so we're looking for every possible Avenue the garden right taxes for people they're villains so when they register the state I mean usually there's this laundry list of every possible thing you could possibly know II don't know especially for small businesses yeah the personal property tax is really tough it's hard for people to understand and it's hard for them it's hard for us to get them to report to us exactly what they do want and if they don't tell us that they got rid of a computer we're going to continue to tact you on that there are also severe penalties for not filing it's it's it really expensive it's a 25 percent yeah it's really expensive and so people have a problem with that but you know what you have a business you own property that is owned by the to the Assessor like the registers yes absolutely absolutely it's up to them to make the declaration as to what their personal property is right anything else on the total property taxes any questions comments concerns okay so in the intergovernmental revenues the numbers we have here are the exact numbers that OPM told us are currently the numbers that we will receive they could change if they do change they would probably go down one number is changing the low sip grant we on Friday late Friday afternoon I got notice the low cypriot is now going to be a hundred and ninety thousand two hundred thirty seven I believe you get to the exact number yeah you said what I mean 1 9 0 2 3 7 [Music] and that's the only one that we know is changing so it's going up about $60,000 you can ask on the line below that the state-owned property last year's eighteen thousand what qualifies a street when the state owns a piece of property they do pilot payment in lieu of taxes so if they own a property and let's say garage yep they have up in the milford they'll give it down something towards that even though they're not required to pay taxes what did we have last year that we don't get this here that i'm sorry yeah what's 18300 know three hundred municipal stabilization grant you don't know the state-owned property fine yeah they were not getting that this year right they still on the property we're just not getting out it's like a $300 right yeah how are you gonna handle the proposed cuts that Malloy's put out there because he's got it on the website if you downloaded today he's got nine ninety nine in the ECS grant and he cut the municipal grant from 274 down to 120 and that's what he's got published on the website right now so there's three hundred thousand dollars as you're looking at yeah that we have a contingency fund that's contingency fund he really didn't utilize all the way this year like we have a new unit almost every penny yeah but we didn't really utilize it for what we said we were gonna utilize it for we had pretty broad brush of what it was for it was three hundred thousand four board a bed it was a hundred and eighty thousand five six hundred thousand of that we had established for certain costs and they seemed to go into other areas we took a hundred fifty for insurance we took a hundred for this it wasn't really how we outlined the contingency fund what it was utilized for that's why you have a continued I don't mind having a contingency fund but if you know going in that this one one four four four UCS is not going to be one one four four we don't know that we're going off of what they actually said you are going to get today well the boy has said remember he wanted to give us two and a half million dollars in teacher salary expenses so his desires are not as firm as what the actual state has told us I could say I want 69 million dollars from the now that's just saying something we just have to I think we have to go with the numbers that the actual state has ordered the legislators already committed to us so if it goes boy wants to change those we should be aware of them you're right Dan but you're chasing tail if you start if you change if we change our budgets every time Malloy changed his mind we would have had 64 different budgets so far this year so I think we have to go with this my opinion what this legislature has so far allocated to the town of Brookfield that may change two years ago what happened to his projected budget what we lose on the education side two years ago 130,000 when we lose last year 160,000 so pretty much if he says these small cuts are gonna happen they've seemed to have happened historically two years in a row running we've taken hits on these accounts yep it was somebody legislature but historically two years in a row now pattern shows we lose about a hundred thirty hundred and fifty thousand a year if you guys want to cut the budget you can cut the budget I'm using I use the numbers that the state has given us so far and the same thing goes for the municipal stabilization brand that's also cut in half that's going from 272 120 on Malloy's projection but again the presentation of all this is where the revenue is at what was stated and the proposal has that shortfall covered in the contingency so I understand I understand your what you're saying when you say that the contingency wasn't all used for what we had broadly intended it for and that in this past fiscal year it becomes a lot of money that sits out there that's just able to be grabbed it becomes an awful lot of money sitting there we wouldn't allow the Board of Education to have that kind of money sitting there at their disposal at any one given time we hold them to a very tight standard as to the board of education and that's a lot of money to be sitting out there quite a few boards event do have their own contingency funds richfield's trying to do it this year's budget yeah less than one percent of their budget it's not unprecedented that boards of a by the of your nature of what a contingency is you don't know what expense you're gonna have but you're protecting it down from a supplemental tax bill or having to eat it to your general fund no highly likely I'm gonna go down I agree so look and I look I wouldn't I mean I would suggest I don't think it'll be as heavy as last year when we had 700 mm and a contingency you know they made the big cut this year if they make another cut I think it's going to be something less but again you know we're looking at a crystal ball here and we're making our best guess based on the best information we have today good change so again the one point one so all of us in the intergovernmental was you received that information from the state right the latest that we have right now yeah so according to the state we're gonna get one point nine seven million in state funding right correct so if we look at charges for services just can you explain what the municipal stabilization grant is it's a grant the state gives towns to stabilize the municipality how they honest-to-god that's the explanation I got okay that's it there's no other awareness you know it's oh well we know we're whacking you on EECS and on this and on that and so we've come up with our own formula no one knows what it is to make you a little more whole that's I agree with Glen this is not a good way to do it but I'd rather have just that formula just tell me what the number is and we'll live with it and we'll work with it thank you I know that that's enhancing you when we look at charges for services usually we're pretty steady here Leanne juice we think it's going to go down a little bit so we went from 482 and last year's budget to four hundred forty thousand this year Town Clerk though we think those fees will be going up a little bit as we streamline the department and get a few things a selectman office doesn't change almost every year it's it's the same now we got the vendor permits because we increase the fees for the vendors so I think five hundred dollars per person because no one likes vendors knocking on their doors and we we may look at that try to that again this year because that's what one of the single biggest complaints I get is there's some stranger knocking on my door on Saturday morning at 9 o'clock wide and they call police first and then the police and we have permits and have the pictures on them they're supposed to wear them around their necks but it's still not a lot of fun and the police don't issue a lot of tickets so this is historically a better number than what we had last year I think and the fire marshal fees will come in around 50,000 and that's the new fees we implemented last year in the commercial establishments so that we at least cover the cost of doing those inspections and that's going very well where are we draft wise as far as what we've actually earned 1718 for the for the fire marshal know for all of that like we budgeted 987 988 thousand where are we in in actuals I didn't bring my I didn't bring it either the revenue numbers like 50 running you're running overall for actually your lien uses down you Elena Lewis is running less than 50 percent but it depends on the cyclical part of it as well right on your reconveyance fees you're doing very well the red 84% you know but on your other ones you're down it isn't cyclical or not cyclical personalities come in conveyance fees are usually cyclical because most people sell their houses in the spring I'm also building from its are very cyclical spring and summer when most of those permits come out but based on the numbers we had from last year that's why we lowered it to 440 for land use else we get a big project you know like the supermarket we discuss that could give us 30 40 thousand dollars and fees like that they could so we guess low and we'd rather get low and then come in a little bit higher next year there are a number of other projects coming up that we think will generate quite a few fees now in also zoning you know we redid all the zoning and the ad hoc committee put that together that zoning rewrite is with the Zoning Board right now and they're going through it section by section by section they were also considering changing their fees because we put together an analysis of all the surrounding towns as to what they charge for various you know building permits in this permit and that permit and ours are in some cases very very different than other towns so we want we don't want to hurt our revenue stream but we certainly want to remain as competitive as possible so they're looking at that may take up a new fee schedule I think that that would be revenue neutral to the town and we wouldn't lose any money we might gain a loader so do we have do you have something more than a budget for the charges for services where we're ending up for this here we just wrapped up we can get you more information I think there's some business or something I mean what we do is we I asked you to department is to go through but historically these fees have if you look at them they're actual versus what we budget they they don't did you do huge joints let's have that let's have actual revenue before we start our deliberations and when you're talking about the revenue estimate form can they get redone because easily what Ben Watson's budget for current year for land use doesn't really make sense some of the fees lines in the town clerk has a projection of six hundred and thirty thousand dollars worth of revenue on the forms that we got they're not making six thirty she doubled the pnc I know what she did but I don't blame her for doing it I'm not saying that was done intentionally I'm saying it was okay I I met with her and we went over that and she understands they needed to be corrected right yes I'm saying if we're gonna talk about the revenue estimates would be nice to have the numbers correlate back because that numbers get back to the right amounts okay and the same thing with your land use estimate that revenue makes no sense whatsoever because you have fifteen sixty and forty five thousand sixteen seventy forty six thousand and seventeen eighteen you jump to two hundred thirty thousand and year-to-date you have twenty six thousand so that's that numbers don't matter this was the first year that the directors filled out those forms so I actually redid the revenue for them okay so I mean if we're gonna use them we should put it in the books let's just we'll double bet those musicians thank you investment income that's pretty straightforward 29,000 that's what we think it'll be higher but that's the number we're going with right now so let's see what's the year-to-date on there right now you're like Sigmund 5065 about indogene really 62,000 is what we learned here today so yeah it's July 1st up until January 31st we've earned about 62,000 okay so that's the full year you're looking at almost triple yeah I would have thought it would go up but not interest rates have not changed that's why I looked at how much cash we carry and what the interest is I mean that number should be something we should be able to get within 10 percent I have a the adjustment Leo 53 yep is here today yep no that's the whole year last year so we have 53 last year okay fifty-three 503 last year so why are we putting 25 in this year and not making that I understand you can't nail it I get that because if we did 52 this year we got 65 already year-to-date that number should be little closer no it should be you're right that's that's starting over right you're not looking at a cumulative balance last year through this year right so I specifically asked our contest you knew savings for fiscal year today we got implied July 1st up until the most recent data he had was up to January 31st so the answer is grew by a 62k like that yeah yep [Music] right exactly starting at zero this is a fixed rate no that's an overnight repo yeah we're very limited on what we can invest it there's a state stiff that we can invest in or overnight straight repo which most communities that's what they do you get securities from giving you the cash it's required by law on our miscellaneous income that $27,000 is the rent that we get for 49 federal Road we're now waiting for the state and have been for about four months they got about a sixty department process to approve the sale of that property to us so that we can then turn around and sell that property to the owner 49 federal and that's all they opposed this thing but until such time as that goes through he's paying us $2,250 a month rent he's been sending us certified checks every single month if you remember we hadn't gotten paid in a four years and so he last year he made good on all this background about one hundred forty nine thousand and we renegotiated a new lease so as soon as we get there we will and then the cell tower rental is going up because we're gonna get a full year out of it now if the company that owns a cell tower gets more companies to use his cell tower already goes out there he said he doesn't see anybody doing that right now but PTT he's got AT&T on this any questions we do have three folks who haven't been through this process before you guys have it yeah any of this whatsoever you don't have to hold your peace and you know after this moment but as we're going along please just and then no other funding sources and that's it for the revenue side you just want to put more emphasis on expenditures or capitals the expenditures we do have the department's coming in gonna go through capitalist are forever okay see if you would take us through the items capital yeah okay so for capital again this year we're following the same process we did the year before the year before that in every year increasing the amount that we will consider using borrowing for so this year I made it $30,000 some of our neighbors have numbers of 250,000 and 300,000 dollars I think that's a very good thing but we have to work our way back there we can't do everything for cash at once and we have a ten twelve percent increase in our mobile tax base and I don't take the poison the residents would vote for that Oh and move on from that Steve I would like us to consider putting in a policy or at least documenting this the fact that we started I think that 20,000 was it 10 20 30 this year it's in that letter yeah but I would I'd like us to look into having some sort of a documented plan that we can refer to other than the annual cover letter which is something that puts a commitment out there that we're going to try and put more of this into into operating versus small bombs yeah yeah I agree that we can I could write up a policy on that and while we're doing that we should do for the paving in the roads too that policy it's just not the right thing to be long-term borrowing every single year I don't think you know do the big projects you know if you got something 300 thousand another 250,000 enough okay if it's a long-term asset it's gonna be here 15 20 years it's a building whatever do that you know some of the equipment who are on big trucks you know we'll keep them 15 20 years so okay I can see spending you buying a truck for two and a quarter okay that you can ball to that but some of the other things and it's hard to get out of that hole once you start borrowing for smaller things it gives you lower tax increases to start with but over time eat up your bar capacity and you're going to have to pay the piper at some point I see the word reserve up there so we no longer have a reserve fund so now that fund has been moved and consolidated with another fund with the cash to capital fund at the recommendation of our auditors so I've dissolved the fun they dissolved it for last year and I dissolved it for this year and reclass the expenditures that is the name that was assigned to it by bloom Shapiro but I can try and update it that wasn't even that was assigned to by someone else throw my cash to Kaplan yeah yeah we don't like that so what would you like it is the cancer is a capital and then some businesses capital cash is capital and banking cash is capital well because there's it's not till think of something else so thirty six hundred would be the cash capital and then 3605 is the Bondi capital or just called capital so we can't change it to dust cap at all so something to identifying it so we went through the Board of Selectmen went through each of these items and decided what we could do this year you know given the state cuts in the grants and all the other issues were facing this year this was a tough year to really put money away aside you know if we put money if we reserved it we then encumber it from year to year right yes so perhaps you receive something I think that's a good idea for big purchases you know just put money aside and so but this year the board is recommended that we don't reserve for the turf fields Dennis the Pinta I put in in the high school you've got in your books that he would replace four tennis courts with five all the answers on their lighting all new lining everything brand-new with courts that would be guaranteed because they're concrete and they're cord and they have post-tension they call it that holds the concrete together it's guaranteed for Pledge time almost but we I'd love to do it but we just don't have it right now but the schools coming up and some of the other big projects I'd like to see us get to the point we do have in here the $300,000 for tacked on to do the second stage of the design for the schools we need to do that I absolutely think we should do so we know where we're gonna stand with the schools because everyone's on tenterhooks and I think it's one of the reasons the library didn't get a permit is because people said hey I don't want to take a chance on the library until I know exactly what the schools are gonna cost and that we can afford it and what it's going to cost I think a lot of people use that reason for to vote no for the library and I don't think anyone would disagree that our schools need work you can argue which belly means the most work but I think we most of us agree on one building so tacked on will come back on March 27th there will be a presentation it's March 27th right left at the high school and I urge everyone to join because that's going to give us a good indication of where we should be going with this and then we need to hire them to give us the final estimate and the final plan and they can do that and we are hoping to go to referendum in this fall right so they could do that pretty quickly and I think we should do that we should have been working on the schools years ago so I would recommend a contract well it's all the same thing all of these you know go through the ones that you suggested moving forward I'm just quick you know two seconds in each one there's call us well you can see what things I said postpone which ends to pay for cash and which ones to borrow Parks and Rec does need that f-550 truck you see the documentation in the supporting documentation I would like to get I think we should get the aerator that helps our fields and cleans it up and it left those things last a long time and then we should if we're not going to build new tennis courts at the high school we should crack seal and we put that off last year and a crack ceiling does extend the life of the tennis courts maybe too far gone this year but we should at least try to do that why did you postpone the aluminum leaf and chip box poem is that because after in our opinion after having talked to Dennis at the aluminum leaf chip box was a very nice thing to have but they do it with plywood now it takes a few hours to put together but you got to draw the line somewhere either pay cash for it or don't do it right now you could go either way I can see going either way when the assessment on the area 226 550 eating right that's below the $30,000 guideline it is it is it's goes at long term answer right but in this case given the budget that we had I did put it there so it's just a budget that's not because it's a longer term assets it would hit last like 15 18 years the current one we have it's really old but when Dennis explained it to us and will probably ask Mary to come in and and help out if you want them to meet again he believed that the new AR Reiter would save like four or five hours a week in time for his staff you know in 40 bucks an hour that adds up and they use this from the end of March right through into November so that would in a sense almost pay for itself in time sake right in the assessor's office we are going to have to upgrade the system because some the rest of the stuff so we decided not to do it Tom just then make some tough decisions excuse me obviously there's no safety issues with football no major safety issues there's no drainage in our school it's not a perfect situation but it's not causing anything no no if there's an ax so it was dangerous to tell us immediately whether it was dangerous enough um the one thing on here tie into the septic roof doors floor BHS building you know and Parks and Rec has a building down here that they keep all their equipment something it isn't woeful mean it's leaking and it really needs some help and I think we put this this item these items have been in the budget year after year after year and they've not gotten done so I think we should do that we have to maintain our assets on the assessor's system that we're gonna be required to make an upgrade because they're gonna stop supporting the current version of the system we have but we have up to 2020 to do it so I'm suggesting that when we upgrade their system we do that next year it's it's not a critical need at this point so one time cause not a license it's a one-time cost I'm a licensed we upgrade then you have your normal annual maintenance but to switch room the one virgin Thurmond taxes $20,000 in here next year license fees with the the operating budget so outside of that [Music] good yes but your public works we got an 18 year old roadside mower that is starting to fall apart it's 18 years old a juice you know some months out of the year and the documentation is in there I think we should replace that we have a 1990 truck you've also seen that the supporting documentation that needs to be replaced on the street sweeper I didn't have Jerry K go out and look at what it would cost to outsource it street sweeping street forty and fifty five thousand dollars a year the street sweeper will last between 12 and 16 years seem like a no-brainer if you're going to pay $50,000 a year ask about company come in at Street Suite using our own is it just makes more sense and saves more money is that an item that could be cost shared with other accounts I mean that just seems like it's not use all year round usually actually I use it almost year round that they do use it consistently throughout the year okay you don't see a lot of it but they do I asked around that exact question is my question but they do use it because that would be great if you know you could share a piece of button you use it for two months and I use it for two months the factored truck tanks we're gonna keep the truck that we have but the tanks on them this is to suck out the grates you know the street cleans the tanks erotic but the trucks in good shape so we just want to replace the tanks in the back of the truck and that's $40,000 mini-excavator is talking to Ralph in public works that's a really nice app but it's a sort of thing you go out and you if you really need a mini excavator your current equipments too big to get into one spot we can rent it for three four hundred dollars a day how many days a year you actually using it it's a real nice to have but I just didn't see it as something if we were using it every day you know four times a week but it didn't sound that way to me with route you can see that everybody has an S each department to rank their needs on the left column then replace the air conditioning unit at the garage it's 30 years old it's incredibly inefficient it's probably gonna go and I said let's go ahead and do that again 2004 truck you said that's postponed you know no AC in the second and I'm saying we should replace the 2004 truck yes just going on it it's a mess and I mean mm 2017 18 year old truck that's pretty good we've been replacing two heat pumps in the Town Hall every year I think that's a good investment they're much more efficient units we're getting now the parts and supplies for the existing equipment thirty years old it's hard to come by we've been pretty lucky in paving the roads in cash we went up another hundred thousand dollars eight hundred and fifty thousand and saying do six hundred and fifty thousand in borrowing I think this is a good plan and spending one and a half million dollars a year it's getting us right where we need to be to the point where what we'll be able to do instead of doing the full replacement of a road we just stay ahead of it and then every eight to ten years you do what they call the milk rind and it's about half the price get you beautiful smooth surface but if you let those roads sincereiy too much you have to take the whole Road up but if you stay on top of it and that's a fair percentage of our roads were already doing that we're able the roads are in good enough shape so we could save some money on that so I would suggest that we continue to do that next year but nine hundred fifty thousand in cash the air conditioner of the library last year we put one of them off hit died we replaced it it was about ninety four hundred dollars the second one there is exactly the same age and I think it will go and I don't want to get stuck where somebody really holds us up we got lucky last year Mulvaney mechanical had the decent equipment needed in their shop otherwise it would have been over three weeks to get it and we would have been able to use the library for two weeks in July so I would suggest that we do that I put off designing and engineering the windows at the library I just right now I just stuff the new fuel tanks down at Public Works our original request and original design included a canopy over the fuel tanks the overall cost came in too high so we eliminated the canopy I think the canopy is a good idea it protects our tanks that lasts a lot longer but that's all the there's a lot of delicate equipment under there pumps and things I think it's a good idea to do that so I suggested that we go ahead and borrow for that I put off replacing the windows at the ten garage again because of cost the same thing with the carpet of the police station you know we're gonna be doing work on the police station in the next few years we can hold off for right now the carpets not in great shape it's not good looking but it's serviceable it's gonna last another three to five years before or they'll have a design and say hey we're not touching this section go ahead and replace the carpet I don't know if it down carpet two years later whip it out exterior lights at the police station this is again I think a nice app not a need to have they've got those new they look like new lights to me if you drive by the police station it looks like 3000 watts each they're pretty bright and the same thing would design an engineer Town Hall restrooms I think our restrooms work we're not getting a lot of complaints those lakes though they're currently working additional ones at the police station oh yeah for the police again we our standard policy has been for the last I don't know how many years every year we replace three mark patrol cars they do need computer software which one said we should pay for one in cash because if you borrow for computer software it's taxable event you know we have fish in taxable numbers of non-taxable he asked for one pickup truck put off with that they could use it to tow their trailer and some of their signing the thing is you know they pull we have enough trucks in town if they really need a truck we can probably borrow one from either Parks and Rec or Public Works not a perfect scenario for them and so we're work to get that the traffic radar I think we should do that the units that they have are out of warranty and the e-bikes which I well I think it's a great idea these are motorized electrical battery bikes that two officers could patrol the still wearing white and then you downtown I think again it's a really nice at a maximum of 20 miles 30 miles an hour as opposed to getting to someone on the stove River Greenway on foot we had to get the Gator out these would be experiencing these would sit right on the back of police cars you know they take it off it you know and Jay didn't make a good point he says we can't have our police officers getting to a site to help people and they're exhausted can't breathe so I just I think it's a great idea I just right now with the budget the way it is we have to make some tough decisions first for the fire company so we're very much where we were before Kyoto Lord is asking for a $300,000 reserve I just don't think we can do so I said we should put you know $75,000 towards new apparatus I do think we should insulate their second attic because that will save some funding they wanted a new command vehicle I just don't see that right now they'll talk to you thermal-imaging camera they one or two new ones they've got once at work for right now so what I would say on that is if something dies and it doesn't work the absolutely needed was a back to the Board of Finance the Board of Selectmen and they wanted a new vote for $250,000 I just don't see the need for that right now I just don't we got a new boat this year $7,000 a new boat that they want they'll describe it for greater detail when they talk to you but I just didn't see it right now I've asked the Avesta fire departments of the center directly and I have to get to mr.
Williams thank you for bringing it up so that this helps you clarify the whole situation as what my rationale is in my decisions so again when it comes to the budget and money or any sort of situations that's convicted connecting my decision my above I did my part to make sure that I have the rationale so we're coming off of two very comfortable meetings to eighth grade students here at no point did you provide those recommendations to this board the suggestions the solutions this body we are a governing body of five people not five individual people making our own decisions in support that is very worrisome to me and it's unfortunate that you can stick here and you can stayed up I'm done being quiet about this issue I think it's unfair to the four of us that at no point unfair to my children to the children in this community that had no point did you share that with us I was shocked at this bass board meeting shocked because that information was provided to us that data was provided to us the numbers this was not a surprise to us we knew that this was coming I am in complete shock right now and I will apologize to the community because we have failed you we have and we have done that because we have failed at messaging we have allowed social media and Facebook to tell our story not the story of these children the administrators are the beautiful people and the talent and the educate the education that exists within these walls of these schools we haven't done that instead we will not other people the naysayers that they get the negative people out there that have put misinformation out there and and on our attorney students await if I was at heart and not in this phone I started off as a PT PT PT putting cutting paper in the classroom and I and and at some point I said you know what I do want to make a difference I want to see my children succeed I want to see your children succeed why because my kids are growing up with your kids so I did want to make a difference when I came on this board four years ago going on five years ago the perception of this district was negative negative I read I read the social media post I read the websites and it was all negative negative negative negative fun till I stepped foot in a classroom and in a school and I saw that the teachers were quality teachers incredible that my children are thriving so now we're here and I've said you know what for the last four years all of us have said collectively you know we need to tell our story we need to make sure that you have that information so that you can you can see what our schools are doing because that's gonna retain students if I'm a parent and I'm reading when I'm reading on social media I'm gonna go to the neighboring school district five kids near our school district that's that's it that's a teacher salary right there by a kid's neat imagine that and if I'm reading when I'm reading out there in social media and it's all false information gonna leave I'm gonna go and if your community member and you have you have any state in this community about the good of this of this of this district use your voice in a positive way don't come to it don't come to a board meeting and take apart the work the incredible work that these teachers are doing that our parents are doing that's not fair to them it's not fair it's wrong it's an injustice because you're taking money away from these students that's what you're doing so when you go out there trying to show you know and the people of Emily who have recently undergone scrutiny not everybody and MOT is guilty of all the things that I'm reading there are men and women good men and women that I feel like terrible because of all this negativity that is going that they have to show for work good people trying to make a living but because we've spun this around we ordered that body we ordered that investigation white because we knew that we needed to go in there we needed to D we knew that so take your voice and use it in a positive way because dirt what you're doing is a disservice to the state people we're trying to protect I have kids in this student and in this district and do teachers that have my kids in your classes you know my kids are good kids you know that and if you're one of the teachers if it has my head Pat has had my one of my and you think that I'm here trying to take away something funny that is that is a shame that is a shame so I'm done being quiet and you're right to Anna Williams thank you very much for your input tonight because you're right we do need to start speaking out we do need to start talking even though if it's a once ourselves in order to get the job done don't keep your opinions to yourself you share that we aren't a collective board if you want to work together you want to be a teen soon and that's be a team plate and then suite team players but don't pick up the ball tennis school and see the four fitters there perform on the Gold Rush these kids I've memorized ten songs it sounded beautiful in a very short period to see the kind of incredible work happening in our schools both see the students at Hodge I was able to meet on Friday I was reading them a book about Sonia Sotomayor I was trying to read in English in Spanish in Spanish in that circuit one of the kids in front of ever having to help me but I was reading it I was reading the book and all of a sudden this kid raises him it's these are second graders he's really excited so I stopped in half and he's like you just said a simile right I know that when I was in second grade I didn't know what a simile was great the things that these kids learning are incredible so saying that I also want to thank you Paul in question because we as board members we have a luxury the opportunity of being able to ask whatever questions we want we have the opportunity to ask for whatever data information that we want when we make decisions and yes I'm speaking directly to Paul because we have that luxury in open session in closed session we have an obligation to ask for all the information that we need and we don't so you have that opportunity to make clarifying ask that many questions and ask for more information or data you chose not to you chose to remain silent you chose to nod and affirmation that you agreed with the board who see what the board was doing and so I appreciate that today you are many people know why you voted no but what I would appreciate it better is that if you had thought we had other opportunities other solutions and you felt the data was lacking that you made it very clear in the meeting so that that data could be provided to the clarity that you need it so that you can make a decision and so that all the court can understand that what we go through all the same level of understanding so saying that I just want to reinforce what what might call date Helen had amigo said and that these are students are never easy as I said last meeting I'm never going to pretend like I can understand the way I feel it would be feel to be the student who's losing they're losing the program or the teacher who feel like they're I will never pretend that I can and that I will understand it but what I do understand is that ultimately we have to make decisions that are going to affect your lives and so it's our obligation one to do our due diligence and make sure that we're doing that we've explored all options possible and - thank you for pointing this out and this is where as we're coming that we are very clear about those decisions so people understand the rationale and I think we've heard very clearly tonight that we have not been clear about that and try things up we had now have an opportunity to change that and to make sure that we are clear and be communicate with not only communicate towards you but we also listen right so that there's a process that people under tuned 'ti to engage so I will just wrap up with saying this I want to talk to people about the figure out report because somebody came up and and talked about fraud yes we did order that we asked and the more it asked for this to happen and the very first sentence or a couple centers in the in the in the report says there was no fraud found so I just want to make that question everyone understand there was no fraud found it did it did highlight issues in our systems and like like how they said we knew that and so we were hoping that somebody when these that kind of expertise that justice across the state could come in and highlight that for us so that we can improve what we do and so what I see this very part is is a roadmap for how we can make sure that our our MOT our maintenance operate transportation are the best they can pop grated me so I just went in with that and I want to say I appreciate all of you being here and end with I cannot say I cannot say how much I appreciate our students that performs at the beginning of tonight and especially to key our students speaking in English and Spanish better than I could ever speak I hope that I see my son in that place in three to four years so thank you and the the Garden Club thank you for the herbs and the siblings that would be see but I also want to say that I went to the high school for the portly who's a rotary on each context and the three students did a fantastic job on their topic I they have to select one like you know there's winners and losers but me they were all winners they all get a fantastic job I would just hear a high school speaker which of the interns from APU use a Wellness Center on on Duncan there are three parents regarding the effects of drugs and what drugs do to their you know what drugs did to you on when they're under in tonight's without the parents recognizing your tech many questions it or not not understanding you know what are they doing but they're mighty the key should happen at every little school in and high school that these students should go to for me to you I want to thank you for your partnership this is a great job I was just lost in middle school the CPI M MEarth workshop where parents teamed up and they did math problems they interact with each other to help each other understand the content of the CPM math [Music] with their child is tonight leaves called going to ducks at my school with the current entry to seek an class and they want to know you know I want to teach you're not working with the students in a wire they seen eight floors but I think it's great to think that the math problems on their own so they knew what their child is doing so I want to thank the dosa a Tracie Spencer and the community liaison Veronica Casillas they did a great job in the parents I think that they did a great job I take the parents understood it a little more my even seeing the parents asking questions that each make there were student you know so what happens if we do list it and the teacher many teachers are this tota was explaining to them how it work so I think it's important that we you know show our parents with the future who in custody we do have the Common Core we do have the math and you do have any programs and don't use better understand these communication John I just know my mother all the other things but I think that we need to be able to teach children but also keep the teacher there are certain parents I went to Paul Longfellow picked Hans Murray school and I read to the students and birthdays all these pita bread knives very festive since we had cookies with 118 to mr.
Murphy from Candlewood but I've asked them to come prepared with for their budget presentations with a chart of when their apparatus needs to be replaced and when when they would need their funding in place so we can compare that to any funds that they raised privately versus how much the town has set aside for these things and I think that will help us make a decision you know and how critical those apparatus ambulance firetruck reserves really are because we haven't met their request in the last couple of years and that's got the attention of those sideways on us I know I know that Candlewood has put together and they've given it to us I think you have it in here exactly what they believe what it needs to be replaced right so even if they're not it's really full amount that they want remember they're using at five percent inflation factor so they're playing on the safe side if we have 80 percent or 75 percent of the purchase price of a new piece of equipment besides a huge difference the only time the only thing on that is on the ambulance Reserve we should put the full amount for the system clearly place one of them every four years so if you don't put it aside every year you're gonna have to come up every four years with more money and these guys this year they've got a plan to save some money they're gonna keep the box on of their ambulance and just replace the chassis that'll save about forty thousand dollars so they're working pretty hard at trying to save money and make best use of the assets so Center fire again I said they headquarters company they asked 126,000 reserve again I said but seventy five thousand the Union Street Service it but the full amount they have to Lucas CPR devices now they would like a third one for the third ambulance we're starting to run it's something that's nice to have again it's a great thing that they also wanted an incident command vehicle and again I just don't don't seem agreed on an additional ambulance but not a CPR device for that not an additional Amiens we're taking whatever we're turning in one of our ambulances taking the box off of it and putting it on a new body we are buying one to Indians right now that's been in the schedule been in the works for four years they won't have it are we gonna be short a CVA I said no we don't use the third ambulance all the time we use it when there's emergencies of when there's a high demand we typically have to be eminences that are working right now the chances of three people having heart attacks exactly the same time is pretty slim there is a chance but it is pretty slim the chances okay just three animals out there you know it's I did it you're gonna have a mule incision we can write their own eyes that's good conversation I have further conversation with the actual lab the gas detector meter replacement stairs are out of warranty and they do need to be replaced this is safety item guys walked into a building he mentioned the gas co2 or everything so I think we should do that the remodel the bathroom again I put that off there HVAC control system they have just a mess over there and I'll let them describe it you greater detail but yeah they got that switch and the timer and I think it will save money in the long run you can also keep the facility running well and then on the brick replacement after looking at the pictures of it one I don't think we're going to spend $23,000 to repoint the Brecon clean it but if we don't do something pretty soon a lot of the Poynting is completely gone in the first four feet of their columns on the facade so if we don't fix it pretty soon it's going to become a really expensive job so I think we should do that that should we do that that should last pretty long time on the public library they asked for computer replacement just to save some money I thought they could you know II got bought into some of the computers and take $4,000 off of their request and spend $8,500 on computers they still have come down in price so they can I don't think we'll crippling by doing that when we move the public education this building is the primary recovery site for any emergencies that we have they generated we have is 33 years old in the army it sits outside outside the cafeteria I absolutely think we should replace the generator and the transfer switch it's an investment in the community and the safety of people here we see pretty big storms we've had people staying here for days it was fun during that October snowstorm we had people here for seven days and I think we should do that also the boys locker room I don't know if anyone's seen it it's it's beyond uninhabitable so I think we should do that because that's something I think that will not change in any plan that the schools come up with so we could do that the outdoor restaurant and food services sort right now I think we just need to put that off same thing with the coral risers John and Colette have convinced me that the kind of attendant citizen will save the schools a lot of money and finding in so we have an automated way to keep track of all the employees they have a lot of employees and I'll say right now in deliberations I disagree Thanks that's silly fifty thousand dollars to take off and then the Tecton design I think that's a no-brainer we have to before this for the schools in technology we don't I don't have a lot of changes normal computer replaces I brought that down a little bit on the downside we do need to upgrade our network continue to expand out there a software licenses that's what they are and we did cut a little bit from our printers which Darla is not happy with but she will make her case to you to keep her printers it land use the vehicle we have a two thousand you've seen the pictures of it 2000 Chevy it's a 70 so what we're going to do is we're going to sell the fire marshal truck that our previous fire marshal you just a to the fire department they agreed to pay $25,000 worth that's market value of that truck they will then make that the Chiefs car I believe it's what they plan to do it so it's an incident command vehicle and they look quick that as they need to and then what we'll deal with that $25,000 we'll just buy a new vehicle for land use so on that cost will be about $12,000 I think that's a good use of it the Health Department we do need to replace that 2001 vehicle these these cars are getting dangerous on the fire marshal vehicle what we're doing is we've been able to get one of the police vehicles an SUV coming off if they are fleet and we're going to be able to equip it without a lot of expense for our fire marshal department so we don't need to spend that money so we're not cutting it out we're just doing a little bit smarter and then building design I put this in here because at some point in the future we're going to need to look at Town Hall and reconfigure the office spaces so that they're more efficient that people aren't on top of each other I don't know if you've been through into the land use fire marshal area it's it's really it's a rabbit warren and so I would like to I don't think we can do it this year but I wanted to put it on here so we have it there as a marker that hire a company to come in do the office design you know putting the cubicles and do it in a way so we have space to grow if we ever need to grow right now people are coming out of the seeds because it's really kind of pachi it just kind of grew willy-nilly over the years and without real thought so I just left that in there and then the assessor's office we have the refile every five years it cost about four hundred thousand dollars a year I think we should put the money away so that we don't get whacked all at once last year okay can I just ask why the talk about the land use vehicles in a measure not in cash at this $12,000 $12,000 we're gonna sell the fire marshal feel great right but why is it not in cash I mean why are we buying it why is that um because well no it should it should be in cash right it should be in cash technically I was thinking about the whole price of the vehicle but so I agreed you probably should go to cash you're looking strictly at email and not trying to match a useful asset yeah no no we're trying to mention yeah we are that's the borrower only the useful life of the asset I don't have any questions on anything in Capitol related each department as they roll through and meet their presentation they will also be presenting capital so we'll get anywhere not that this was lackluster by any means but we'll get a more passionate presentation and pitch every item within each departments or that's true yeah this was more to get an understanding of the decisions that were made by the boys select so there's no other questions on revenue or capital we can get to we can go over the slightly Department tonight and the finance department tonight and I would also appreciate you know in addition to the deep dive on those teeth your eye level you know introduction to what we're going to see from the various departments and well further the food of people what to expect in those presentations your assessment of what was presented your assessment what he did high level five nine sees you yeah when each department presents IQ I'm sorry I'd like to do a little bit so that's nice like Department there aren't a lot of changes students in that for once and before we guard the capital with me about the capital can you have a missing a comma three quotes for these big-ticket items but the mower was 29 does he have three quotes out there to get us yes idea or any quote I mean it Oh before we go out to bid you know I mean we get something prior to approving one twenty nine thousand for a mower and here we get us a ballpark number than if you take a look now I can't find of course if you I'm not saying they're 100% but a lot of these we've already done that we've done you need to see some of them returned to the fact that Jerry they worked with Jerry right but I'd like to see the number like the email quote or something you because if we can like to generate or $350,000 if that's 320 maybe we can utilize that for the setter school software utilize after school the generator should do I think we should have not really good super vetted the schools requests as to no I'm just saying like new that that's an example if we have $350,000 and it's really 3:20 I'm not seeing cut to 30,000 I'm saying utilize it somewhere else down the road for other items that were leaving out we do have at least one more chance to discuss all things education like the Board of Education I think okay is there a threshold that you would like to propose that we get to quotes or the work out from Jerry I think any over 50,000 is ruling then maybe to put other items in what I'm saying is if we're putting 350 is 320 or 120 that's 100 that allows us to put the risers in $15,000 would you want to see that presented with Department presentations yeah with the Department of Ed of prophetic does that capital in what they're requesting I mean it does that be hard but I mean a Terry get three quotes or whatever oh yeah I think he can get a good idea I think I don't let my son out and asked what would this cost right so they are experiencing things of what somebody says someone hundred twenty-five it comes right in there within five let's just make sure that's all it's not a matter of it's a matter trying to get risers it's a matter trying to get other things messy so I don't like this area he sends to the same about four hours we can hold down our are we gonna actually see that savings in the budget you see the salaries no no you're not gonna see a lowering our salaries most I'm gonna do something else at that time that's right yeah overtime overtime you say three or four hours a week on this you say three or four hours a week on that and this and that and also you've eliminated having hire another person okay but it's really hard to quantify that by going back and taking incremental little pieces that say do you sometimes have to look at it from the intangible and and work forward well Kimberly sir what do you want to do the finance alarm yeah we're gonna find him some saliva in it right either one it's a toss-up with everyone you guys wanna be first so I have three section so the only change that well I dropped the office supply because my not sure we had had it more office supplies because we transitioned from a smaller office and a larger one and we had some staffing changes so we needed survival shells and deaths and so forth so them obviously this year we don't have those expenses so I drop that down that was really the only significant change that I have there any questions in the controller's office section ok yeah I tried to update it's under control I can give it to you [Music] it's controlling your need for tax collectors line somebody third page and the elected official that 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look mr. belly Dale can you work the whole costume with even the white I don't want to say masculine makeup had makeup on and everything and I think that that was really good I wonder they don't even know that we do have great things going on here at a USC I do read Facebook and I'm very disturbed that I well I cannot respond and I will not respond but I wish parents or all these people that are on Facebook could come here let me speak up or get into the things that we are doing here that is losing any fight statistic I want to thank all the students and and the parents and you know they spoke up today and voice their concern I think it's great that they come in here because you know we need to hear from you you really do the I want to I do think that as Diana Williams mentioned we need to be more transparent we need to not only notify the parents that attend that their children attend this revision we also have to the community to the community or taxpayers it ancient beasts coupons in cases all the new things that are going on in our school sites I didn't more transparent rather this is what we do and are now going to be at City Hall and those meetings are televised the next day you may proceed on YouTube so you could hear and see what we say we're here and see what they do or if you have questions you know what are our emails are on the website you could ask any questions that you want I mean I'm sure all of us are always available to speak to you and you want to speak on we've got a concern that you have you know and and does that mean like you mean and it's true you know there is no decision you know if your body one more time like I said I I think they say what the only Facebook did not you get upset you know don't read it you know what I want to read it I wonder because I want to know what you're saying I want to know how I can respond I wanna know how I could answer you or the doctor community as ever known so she knows what can we do about this you know what we need to do is we keep it in the bud we need to let people know what we're doing you know because really has a rumor that's very true I do have to mention their merit a USB well you don't care about the kids you don't care about the teachers you know I'm retired 20 years of service in a children high school and Garden City Rose me so yes I do care about students and you know I would probably make decisions on kissing people to the people here I want India Marcus regions and I was excuse me employee I was a job steward a union steward so I get it you know what I was on that site at some time and I totally understand but now on this side and I have to see the big picture I want to I ran through scooper things I wanna see what's going on it's important that we know you know I read this and then now I understand you I make the decision already here and trust me we don't make decisions because we don't like kids or because you want to be mean or because we don't like your school better let me do it trust me so we do work very hard as a team trying to work together and I understand why wouldn't you say that the main they're hard but you know what we do we put it hard we don't do it we don't like anybody [Applause] [Music] thank you for 0i x 12 fevicol meeting in Faribault from 9 a.m.
mr. treasurer yes that's correct as far as staffing levels everything we did there properly executed the books make sure that's not the segregation of jeez oh and like that we feel comfortable what I say we're perfect no but you'll be not the right number Stan yes so you have two union positions in apartment 23 nope I am through being in position in one one exam Senior Accountant I had petitioned last year for a staff accountant but I was turned down did that need go away um it would be nice to have a staff accountant I have to clerk levels a senior level he certainly beneficial is there a we're we're we're this year is the very tips that's gonna go into my line into the non-union wages to follow up on dance point and what have we spent in the current fiscal year on temps do know off the top of our heads I don't know that off the top my head but I just started receiving the billing on the temp but I can look into that son only had a temper about a week and a half that fellow's out on the recs so it's not it's not a huge amount of money right now and I don't think it will be but I'll be back sooner and for what we need to do for this on it and air for doing weekend next year I want to make sure that we all all be a proper number and skills a place to make sure that these numbers also I would like a staff account then core an assistant controller there's a wide variance there and salary range though between a staff accountant and we're in assisting controller and the travel and Dayton dude was a prior-year you spent $2,000 this year we're asking for 6,000 that is correct why are we adding 4000 but may have additional people that are interested in going to the Muniz conference and also I am a member of the government finance Officers Association and I attend some of their conferences and trainings along with the other controllers in the area I'm a member at a local level in a national level so last year only one person went to immunise conference when the finance apart we were hoping to have more than one coffee yes but the GFO is extremely beneficial in updates for gatsby I know that there's interest in the updates for the pension so forth so all that information would come from the GF away they also produce the blue manual which there's a lot of trainings and coincides with gap regulations and I get updates on that and trainings weekly are there online trainings that are utilized by I utilized the jfo a trainings so I get emails and then I sign up for them and just take them right at the desk yes under my kerala we do this year we bought a 10 pack a 10-day training compiler for the cost of 5 days and we use those for the entire town wall for AP training all of the various things but there are also online courses that our staff can take um those are advantageous than they work well but sometimes there's nothing like going to a class and actually sitting down and talking to people next to you how do you analysts that you handle it you can really get a lot out of it so everyone has access to Tyler University which is training on unis and all the modules is the BOE finance staff also have access to that we advise them throw all the training classes and SM wouldn't say like that but the ten-day thing where we have somebody online actually training with us yeah a lot of the Board of Ed people have come over we have today they attended a training with us today well people in the room get it cranked both Ammar side and from the Board of Ed unfortunately our trainer said he only did one side entries I was listening in and he had he had recommended an entry that was inappropriate saliva flew for my Terri Weedon corrected him there people are usually pretty good but sometimes you get something he's not an accountant or doesn't know that's her teeth that I'm not an accountant yes these are software John I think we talked about this before but the issuance costs of bond issuances they're capitalized or there are advertisers in that bond itself before we move on to public that diamond is there any questions it's on controller on this couple lines up there oh yeah hold on another deadline out for to finances two lines below it right I mean for to finance yeah cuz he's here maybe went are you undermine so the the Board of Finance yes there are two lines for Board of Finance okay how's that there a little control so on the handout that we have there are there are two lines for the Board of Finance one is the Commission secretary that is correct a thief and the other one is for the audit Oh looking at looking at what's been presented I think there's there's a change in budget methodology from prior years so the current year's budget there is $80,000 budgeted for 1617 but when we did 1718 that number did come down and I believe that was because the Board of Ed and WPC a were putting it in their own budgets because that's how it was going to be paid so it's not that the audit is costing us less future it's that the monies are any different more property is allocation is no what evening for cost of the audit that we're projecting next year I would have to look at the contract I can get that for you cuz we have 60 here port of NS 25 so that's 85 and if WPC has money in theirs it's got to be 10 we're at 95,000 is that what it's gonna cost us I don't believe so that's how high because the budget is gonna probably be less than the previous year yes 60 in here 25 in the BOE so right I think this number includes before we can we can look into that that either we remove it from the BOE and let them where we take it out of ours don't worry I'll get it well it was a good idea to allocate it where belongs just fine Linda for an 85 role or that we should reduce down somewhere yep the the chair of the Audit Committee would reach out to the partner that were working with over at Mahoney sable and get an estimate we're currently at what's for next year you see if we want to adjust the scope anything like that yeah yeah we'll have to request that I'm okay then I not wear it every day I'll get that for okay we're comfortable so there's likely an adjustment that we did if we're over about gotta go down yeah are we comfortable with the board secretary I think she's fantastic okay okay so move on to public data quality control and these numbers are pretty solid they came right from wiser our financial adviser so if you look at this summary does everyone have a copy of this summary from attach section of ten the binders has backup so this is right from Susan the being attached to schedules and it able to there are fighting dimmers you go over them with her you know I'm comfortable with them [Music] dan did you have any any questions on purrs day okay there [Music] any questions on public [Music] John you're comfortable my ability insurance for that so the workers comp remember that went out because we were audited and that's the new number we have we did have a clean audit no findings but they adjusted some of the classification codes so that's why you see an increase there what is that what does that mean exactly well the fees are based on the classification and within the department the job duties so if they reclassify someone you would see see a lot of that like in parks and recs and job they're more high-risk recreation generation where it's a higher risk to get hurt right so they look at him you see lifting boxes what is he sitting at a desk so they'll come they look at each job and they classify the interview they look at where the payrolls allocated and then they reclassify every year and adjust the read five percent sure we had no findings so that was good um the initial package she said they were good karma the rep from Kermit said there were gonna be any changes the fidelity bond that's so I'm on it and the tax collector responded so that's our bond and then the town clerk is bonded you know and those are the fees associated with our box busted yeah those are pretty fixed nod for folks I'm not suggesting do this your vendors that is that on a rotating basis oh he just in which category would see you what we go you go if market was here and then no no we're right here we have gone out in the past Kermit is owned by the municipalities in Connecticut they provide very very good ratings and every time we look and as you look historically you can't beat karma they have incredibly good service incredibly good support a lot of training and so there's 169 municipalities in Connecticut and like 160 to our members are currently yeah and do all their insurance through karma it's only for you uproot Connecticut Judas Paulo so we're pretty comfortable that their rates are very competitive the thought called boundary check they were way better then first but having said that that this year what I would like to do is for our financial analyst and for our bond counsel I don't know when we've ever gone out to bed and I think it's just now so time soon as the budget is finished it's finished go out and just get a feel for what's out in the market are we getting the right services for the right price because these guys are not cheap they're not cheap at all and I think we should just as due diligence make sure you haven't checked it in a while we should do that and I already have Jerry days put together the packages to do that and we'll go ahead and do that there was a question somebody had a question when we were going to talk about the financial advisor as to what they were charging us all the work they did and they don't charge us any fees they only charge us when we actually go out the market so the support functions of going through putting together the packages that they put together for us and doing the analysis that's kind of like their teaser rate they do all that work so that they get your business to do the actual issuance that's pretty that's pretty standard out there any other questions for the controller or the treasurer on anything in the finance department budget okay did you want an overview on the finance department while we're on that tab yeah I know so by 18x okay um yeah select my budgets you got the elected official salary that's me the Board of Selectmen we do say Sue and Harry a small stipend the only big change that I'm asking for this year after having gone out the market and looked at what people are paid my executive assistant Ginny is severely underpaid the job that she does the amount of effort and time she puts in she works a lot of nights so I'd like to bring her up closer to market and I'll make her salary $72,000 a year do you know how long she's been about yeah and there are people who work for the town and similar jobs for ten years that make eighteen thousand dollars a year and when she does so those people would still make about seven thousand dollars a year more than Jenni does but I'd like to at least get her to more parity the stipend is paid to the first of those company but are they in the book I'm sorry did you provide those mops I'm sorry Katie provide those comps oh yeah oh yeah yeah yeah the rest is pretty straightforward for the stipend is the first election in lieu of a pension our office supplies and equipment we are a little over and you need to get some equipment and that's you budget have been cut and then it was but back I would like to keep that because I need a couple desks and chairs for my office in the confidence desk we've been working without them my four chairs I'd like to get a couple more untraveled continent continuity I added I moved that up for next year because I would like to gonna attend the Munich conference this year in Boston next year I'm not going to be in Boston it's probably gonna be Phoenix or somewhere else it's going to cost a little more to get there they do have specific courses and flights that you take as a chief executive officer with me a nice training and I'd like to do that so that's why traveling continually handsome Jews went up by a thousand dollars and codified law sets Jenny Cassady we use a company that keeps track of all of our laws and make sure that they're filed properly with the state know of those things it's company that does it we're gonna have quite a few changes with the zoning so I want to make sure that we're covered with that so that we get Sam and she'd set up that we're covered and that's pretty much the only change that I have any questions yeah overall salary can you give us a list of anybody that's above 2% everybody so we don't have to go through this and line by line as most of them are 2% but you got about five or six in here the other couple ten outside yeah and instead of painfully going through this it should be noted we didn't have to dig it out like you just mentioned it and rub front about the position you talked about but it would be nice to have a list of how many employees are above the 2% threshold okay a salary list of any magnitude should be very simple to pull and identify outliers regardless of what sometimes it yeah you're right but it would be nice just have a list yeah I sent out the salary list but I'll send it out again with the changes that I suggested is there any way we can get a policy in place for pay raises like most companies have a policy and I know we're not a company or a town but generally there's objectives set there's steps set there's different like windows of 1% of 3% and we have seem to go from 2% to straight-lined everybody's 2% then we have outliers at our 8 10 12 percent that we really don't have any other than your word for what happens there's no guidelines there's no set like what we're looking at and it sort of is most of our employees are unions and we're set on what we pay them just the amount is the amount those who are non-union the town has tried in the past to put in incentive programs to do a fully formal review process that hasn't worked real well I see where you're coming from and I don't disagree with you I had the same thing in my private industry experience we have about 20 people under subject to this information the problem we have is in the town everything's F allowable everything right but I don't see why it's a determined well I mean that for why those my most of my employees had no idea what their co-workers made everyone in town home knows through the penny but everyone else makes its it's not private so once you go down the road and I know I don't have an objection to this and from people who have been done exceptional work I've asked for raises what you set up a formal process like that in a very public place where everything zepa liable and you can cause more problems than you you sob because remember if I write a performance review for somebody that's fo liable isn't it that's not a personnel record that's its own I still I still mo mo unless it's HIPAA related things I thought but can you see lack of policy gets us in trouble and lack of policy leads to opening doors do have you had lawsuits involving pays and not discriminatory pays and things like that had we had lawsuits in regard that in the past few years yes so would you think a policy would protect us when we're going to give some people ten percent since it is a viable and other people are getting 2 percent wouldn't you think that'd be more of a benefit on a liability side than a negative I did I see by C pluses and minuses to it I really do would you be able so it's a question would you be able to get an opinion from our town labor attorney another not it's a good you know practice and municipalities to put in certain policies like end policies those mean like that anything I don't yeah something just looks something like that because it is ever liable one guys eight seven or one girl at woman man whatever no one's getting three and why am I getting it what's the why are you doing this because it leads to lawsuits and I think that's happening did it absolutely more than absolutely but that's why there's has something in place that gives you the vehicle to drive that it's so much less than that others I know our company need to overview every now and then across certain job grades and these make sure that everybody I've gotten raises every now and then when I was buffalo and everybody else but is there does that happen the time that looks at that my doesn't my experience has been over the last six months as we're losing people I mean we're losing Union people and we're losing regular people because in the town we've given and what I can see going back every single person has got the same race as the unions over the last ten however many years that in itself can cause inequities because we have some people who are better employees and others that do more work that work harder that work weakness at work nights and it's to certain extent that's true of the Union ranks too but we don't have a lot of control of them you always have some people who are your top performers and some we're not quite as good so the net result of the town and the town has done a good job of keeping salaries down but for like some of our Union people we just lost somebody who went to Bethel or eight bucks more an hour entry-level position and we are significantly below in some jobs significantly below every single surrounding town and it hasn't been a problem for the last six seven eight years because the economy has not been good and towns them to doing a lot of hiring and people have not been changing jobs but now with the economy becoming better with people feeling more confident in their ability to take a job and keep that job we're seeing people leave and turnover no matter what you do but you do not want your best people you don't so I mean I know like I believe that you know in general the Board of Finance that you request specific salary and specific raises for specific people and we don't we don't have that level of knowledge of who's good who's bad that's that's your job so is it possible for the Board of Finance Act monitor the Board of Directors and say here's the budget for salary increases for the year and go allocate them as you wish or have your department head it's it's a reward as opposed to us saying yes to this person and no that person without knowledge of their actual forms yeah we could we could talk about that actually you know it's support the force level in the first indictment who decide salaries if I needed to get somebody raised I could do that I don't need permission of for slacking or the Board of Finance to do that although in practice I actually do come to both boards and talk to you when we do something like that my a good example is our director of Parks and Rec we're in danger of losing him and I gave him a race away so awesome but he got a much better opportunity I mean even if we match the salary the opportunity wasn't the same but he's making 33 he's now making 33 thousand dollars more a year he got a 38% bump in his salary by moving so part of what we do is we look at the overall market what's out there we get the actual I can look at all the towns that are similar sized to us similar numbers people's similar budgets and revenues and look at the salaries that there may be for 5060 so we have pretty good hit with the market heads and our labor lawyer is also very good at helping us in telling us hey this is where the market is for these sex I think they'll read a mistake maybe I'm wrong they read the correct music we have a threshold everybody got two percent and then everybody got higher most companies we give the person three percent overall and then you decide some get one some get zero and that's purple eights - Ricky saying how you do how you take care of your better employees and we have a policy in place with something that says we give you 3% overall some people can get sick some people get one depending on their performance reviews on people who know right now we've given everybody 2% in this budget nobody got 2% or less so we're saying everybody's a 2% performer and then you have outliers and mostly you would see some companies you see 1% would be given to some employees 4% would be given to others and then this is not really set up that way and I think that's really where it dancing why is everybody in 2% are they all 2% performers and if that's what number ranking are you in your corporation and then why are other ones getting 7 percent why this is not in Union soon and your other state about people leave and that's always gonna happen in our area you drive 30 miles south you're going to get a better job it's reality every drive 60 miles to New York City my pay is going to increase tenfold and it's choices remain your limits so raising people's pay does not necessarily guarantee longitude in this area we live in a town you go to Richfield you only get a little bit more you will you're gonna go a little bit more you're very entertaining you make stepping stones and we are unfortunately even with superintendents stepping stones you know Lutz mr.
to 10 p.m. 10 a.m. March 15 produces Pacific University for APU 9 3 a.m. to 1 p.m. March 15 school so comfortably in the parent group 2:30 to 3:30 that's some high card stock exchange is the achievement and Ellington from 5:30 p.m. to 2 p.m. March 7 and adjudication at GHS gym from 7 a.m. to 2 p.m. March 7th fire concert in the multi-purpose room 7 p.m. to 9 p.m. on March 14th day to see the GP had eluted from 12:30 to 2 p.m. March 14th achievers senior items in the center of quad 12:22 p.m. to 12:30 p.m. March 14th achievers senior items in the center for 22 42:12 the deep no CT CT Hawkins dance from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. I'm sorry visual arts field trips at such as college from 9:30 to 1:30 p.m. do some high school Justin a.m. to 2 p.m.
Lutz knew where he wanted to go and he set it up nicely I'm proud of him he's a Brookfield person and even but the goal is you had South the Gold Coast and we're always gonna have that here whether we pay people did some people go to do that you're right no matter what this is what I collect money is there tracker not everyone is not everyone I agree I will accept that it's a very difficult subject it really is but I'll check with our labor lawyer to see what information is up a liable what what it's not I know it has been tried in the past by previous First Selectman to say okay I'm gonna get this person four percent of me to get this person one percent two and a half and it has proved to be an unmitigated disaster because there's no privacy salaries are fo viable and people go wait a minute why did you give this guy 2 percent on the scooters and you only gave me one and you are never going to convince people that they're not as good as the next guy there are a few people who are very very self-aware and they know how well they're doing but many many staffers do not most staff think that they're in the top one-third we don't have a formal performance remember given the number of people we have it's really hard to judge one person against another do we have a commitment to check with yeah we'll do it Dan oh I'll look into what what maybe some history is for boards of Finance assigning let's say you know we say back to the first life I might say alright you're a non-union salary 3% right figure out how to do that whether everyone gets one and a half percent across the board or what yeah let me look inside I'll do some checking around what else would you like I don't have any more questions on the selectmen budget the rest I believe is the the rest is really departmental so you have the 300 gone down to the open you have a contingency it's 350 so here's just before Hana right let me let my only one contingency then let's go over exactly again what let that 400,000 contingencies for there was ain't 300 and change to cover shortfall and state funding what constitutes the rest we have not failed our ended contract with the CSEA Union although we have put in two percent raise for all union employees we may end up higher than that we don't know so we're going to need some backup there our biggest reason we have decided with that you need to go to arbitration I said we're not moving at all relations and we're very very keen to have the pension plan accepted by the CSCI that's the hybrid plan where they would get a defined benefit for 20 years and then to find contributions there after that is really important to the town for the long-term viability other doubt it's going to reduce a lot of the exposure we have 10 15 20 30 years from now having defined contribution every 20 years I don't think it will save the money any hard dollars the actual cost of doing both do you have your plan so it's exactly the same as a defined benefit but where we gain the advantage is in that when we go to defined contribution we're limiting the size of the defined benefit plan so that if the markets go against us we're not going to have as big an exposure if the markets go down 20% on $100,000,000 place it's a lot of difference in the market going down on 30 20 percent on a 30 million dollar plan where you would have to refund it so that's what will save a lot of the risk we do very well with our pension plans we've had very good returns over the past couple of years the distension payment plan we have what we think are the best providers so we have a little room in the contingency I don't want to discuss exact numbers in public as to what is in there for that questions on contingency I mean I think we should drop the revenue and shrink the contingency I think that just leaves too much open can if we drop the revenues down from what my voice proposing shortly I stay overnight stay they drop that down to what you proposing online in this thing and then you take the that out of the contingency it just leaves too much money sitting there on a table I think that I it could be better managed and the state leaders in one place or another man well if we take another revenue loss you're not Club the holding in an accountant a better tax payer we have to manage you within our budget if we drop the revenue source down to what Malloy stopped in about the 9.99 to 122 you take 200,000 of the contingency when things arise we have to manage it within the budget instead of going to the contingency fund and I get what you're saying about the unions that we have to do certain things and leave some money there but I think five years if you really look at prior years we have fifty thousand in that account forty thousand in that account and we managed it and the contingency to of the prior four years we've had 50 and forty thousand dollars last year I know we went to because we had no idea what the state was to do whatsoever this year he's produced a document online of where he's headed so we pretty much have an idea where he's headed that whether it goes there or not is a whole different story but if we short-sighted the best thing that happens is he gives us the full amount we then have that money I know you know who looking in past years you know three two and a half years ago when I took office we found out we're missing three point three million of the town's money right and I think that was a direct result of not doing our County properly not closing out projects properly we discuss all the reasons but I think if there was some contingency there that maybe people maybe people want to said hey what over on this project I need to go to the Board of Finance I need to go use some of that contingency but since there was so little contingency there was nowhere to go except for the general fund it never came out that's my personal opinion I get that but that's Fault in the system in other words if we have this issue we're supposed to go through the process of you say you don't have enough money we go to the town we go to the town meeting and we go to well that argument I might weep there is having a contingency is a good thing yeah we get the fund goes to the town he goes into the general fund which is to the good because we want to build our general fund up to I'd like to see at least 10% and closer to 12 or 13% so then if we did have a hit we could take the head without on the rating agencies knock us down that's my opinion I just think with less contingency we really do have deeper into managing funds and looking at all right according to the budget best practices hosted that training hosted by CCM you do you account for a contingency I don't think there was a set guideline in there it's more of a town policy if you will but something in there is it best practice what that number is and I'm not saying cut it to the bone but yeah yeah what I'm saying is if you reduce the revenue side and then you can reduce it because what's the personal intention see fund to what is that personnel contingency that's what I was describing earlier that's pretty Union so now what we talked about really we have $450,000 in a contingency fund so I'm trying to say it's a big number that if we shrink the revenues down there's money to cover enough of what we need to cover just my opinion of it can you go over that again I didn't follow you if we reduce the state grant from one one whatever it is down to the 999 and they take the municipal grant if we could both Steve and I talked about we don't know why it's there anyway it's 274 he's reduced it down to 120 units he's presented this online if you go online to the governor's website it's there his numbers are there if you drop that down we can drop down a contingency of the 400,000 down to at least 200,000 because you got 50,000 already in a personnel contingency on the line below that a union piece so there's 450,000 in contingency in this budget right now realistically we're still on all contingency to walk away with the agency-wide language 7 you at the end wanted lower state grants all of the UCS all of that to what mobile is saying right now and also contingency yes so you're decreasing your revenues and you're actually increasing my expenses and if we get the money from the state with Wade's are the good if you don't get it you have no cushion you managed your budget of $200,000 cushion to manage to your rush there could be unexpected process for unexpected as you could order finance for a special appropriation you're pregnant at a time for hope right I mean we look at a big increase right now look at that huge increase in sales this year we need to manage these accounts as best we can I'm not saying you're missing management so don't think I'm saying now I'm saying when you go down when there's big contingencies human nature is we got a contingency taking out the contingency take it out of the kitchen we narrow this down and we drop the revenue down it makes us really dig for this money and with if you lower your revenue sources down right and I'll are my expenses and you lower your expenses you how much do you want to - what are you 20 - 20 to 30 according to Malloy and then you lower the contingency also right right well say they're offsetting each other right from an overall tax now exactly what it's awesome but it leaves less cash on the table leaves less cash on the table to use it for and item of contingency would not want identified between 1 and 11 months I'm gonna say prior year's practice has been 40,000 an account 50,000 in that account Wow okay notice however when we go back to so the 50,000 was 15 16 16 17 maybe we bumped that contingency up because we were changing out the health plans right thousand four so I was which we had isn't a transition the state brightly is netting that so there was a reason there was a reason for that it was a bit of a bogey so we went up there well we settled on 1718 I mean that number was comprised of some stuff right we covered ECS ECS special agents especially I had another bargain with 300,000 was special and you have fired from maybe that thousands of 380 80,000 was a kindergarten 200,000 was the ECS time some 580 of that was strictly on 300,000 was Board of excise Yeah right but they're now have a formula they built into their button there's 779 is based on their formula and they built that into their budget so I'm saying as the unknowns that we budgeted in five hundred eighty thousand dollars of last year's contingency are now knowns right yes and the way that we came up with those numbers though was pretty darn down to the wire through who are almost months of budget talks all right so I think if we were going to end all the talks now and not have any further discussions with the Board of Ed let's say or with other departments to sniff out some what ifs that aren't in the budget and we don't feel comfortable putting in the budget then yeah sure maybe we could take that out but I think I think at this point we need to go through to the end and see if there is anything else before we go thinking about cutting that out or not making any decisions today no we're just chatting but right I think that I think the concept first of all so you're suggesting that the two what items are not necessarily married that the revenue item the contingency which was identified as partially to offset decreases in the revenue that that number might be independent of that so if you separate the two just for argument's sake I think it makes perfect sense not to budget for the maximum state revenue this year when when we history says it's going to be not the maximum and I don't see why you would budget for the most you would get I was saying that before we jump to one in a lower contingency let's roll through the rest of the month I mean you recommend that you don't reduce the contingency and I'll tell you why because you have 40 other funds and the general fund will have to make those funds whole if they're not managed properly and one of the reasons the reserve account was consolidated was because prior to 2016 it was not managed properly so those assets come do your general funds gonna pay for them well do not manage our funds properly no they are immense now prior to that so that money was spent elsewhere so if you had money reserve and it wasn't managed properly those funds were allocated appropriately to pay for other expenditures so if my name is went over budget in capital that money was used so the money's gone so I think it's my recommendation that you keep that cushion there another year so you're saying that Passons have not been absolved yet exactly and it'll be didn't you win it secure the photo Sanjay that's correct the general fine I'll have to make that fun home yeah for the last three years I watched us like a hawk and we're not letting any capital projects go over budget I'm sorry no you can't do it you can not do it if the schools go over I'm gonna find the money I'm sorry this is projected for 250 you spent 260 I'm sorry we're only spending 250 find the money yourself and that's why we took the canopy off of the fuel things and we're watching these very very carefully and we're not over budget on any single Capitol item we're not it's not the watch it like a log but see I could take that argument the other way and see we reduced the contingency thousand two hundred thousand i watch your line items like a hawk and if you can't go over too bad on you find it like you just said you do for the Board of Ed why would we shut it I'm talking about other funds I'm not talking about fun one I'm talking about your other funds your capital funds your reserve fund your cash to capital assets comes you for those funds from prior years from three years back safe from some reserve account and they never spent the money your general fund is gonna cover that and those assets were not trapped properly the exposures what is the exposure you're bringing us up what's the exposure that we're talking about we can't just make these statements and not have a quantifiable exposure [Music] I'm up to probably up to three to five hundred thousand you want me to ask me off the top my god we're gonna need an agenda item for our regular meeting to go over this where are we gonna cover this shortfall out of curiosity when I mean someone would have to go back and audit those prior years and that reserve account and figure out what those balances were but those assets and those those capital items were not tracked properly in the system you'd have to go back and look at where your budget overages are were and those other two funds you don't know three different funds a really dumb question I'm good at that when can we fix this how do we fix this and what do we got to pay to fix this because anything missing I'd like to fix it there's a module that I would like to buy that is used by Newtown that I think would help address this issue the problem is that I can't go back in a treat at retrieve the historical information no not all of it it's not there so I don't think I think it's exaggerated I don't think that exposure is so great but for the last three years we're watching every single project every single item so that it does not go over that we know exactly every single expense associated with every single project particularly if it goes over fiscal years and I favor 11 III agree with exactly every word you're saying right now I do think you are watching it like I'm not going to say it any different than that but we got this problem that's sitting out there that we don't know about we're talking about holding contingency funds this year and cover this it's so convoluted and so lost it what are we doing let's get it right well we've implemented the project Cody County County we've merged the funds we've moved we've eliminated that reserve fund so what it looked like to me that the projects were coated in the wrong signs and and which would cause that particular fund to go over and a budget budget line item and then the funds were not moved that were supposed to be moved from the general fund down to some of the other funds so it's you know it's it's complex and so I don't know how much time you want me to spend on 13 14 14 15 15 16 so I can tell you from 16 forward and I think Jerry gay has mentioned this that he has a lot of trouble looking up the the asset information from the prior years prior to 16 so years ago when we first recognized the problem we had with our general fund we did call in forensic accountants found you a part of it John you're a part of it they came in and looked at what we had and they said there's no way you don't have enough information here we could spend $700,000 chasing this out and the net net would be you're still out three point million two million dollars three point three million dollars and you just spent $700,000 to confirm that don't know how nice a little exercise right and I can tell you right now we're okay like we have enough money in capital in our capital account to cover what we have approved now for capital expenditures and to cover or Abani capital we're fine right now the the risk is if something comes up from a prior year and we just have to sit probably right five is probably too high but you know I'm nervous oh that's aggressive stomachs yeah correct I'm flying through that we weren't aware of I'm a project from five years ago we're looking at probabilities in the 0 to 1 percent yeah I mean I probably was an exaggeration but you know why are we bringing this up then there's a zero to one percent probability and now we have this on public record that we just said there's a 300 to 500 thousand dollar exposure you have images you're the 1% probability is not an exposure that's my that's why I guess so the question is do we want to go back and start researching distance many many many hours going after this now we're clean for the last 30 1/2 years we know every single capital project we're doing and we know how much were so then that's not the reason for the contingency in the budget no 300 she's just trying to play I'm trying to play thing I'm kind of protective I still believe that a contingency fund is there for exactly that contingency don't assign expenses that a contingent a contingency punch li they're simply for sake that I've seen to cleanse point that we can argue an ambush in the revenue side and everything and I'm pretty dependent on each other all of it is this year we got caught up with a hundred fifty thousand and wasn't there 130 150 that worked really what were you playing on to use that money for we had a lot of money put there and I do feel that if we shrink that account down it allows us to manage harder it's just human nature it's just a human nature process but maybe our compromises that we've got the ECF screen and the municipal stabilization closer to Malloy's but maybe keep the to continue to see yeah okay and again towards the end of the cut budget conversations I agree with that - I'm just saying it's a point to look at it's a high number and prior years have done what a lot less see if anything comes up in the next few days who's responsible for the fountain delays and utilities yeah but what departments at under you Parks and Rec and Public Works okay as I had a question what I looked at the budgets the Board of Ed had a 25% increase on fuel oil in the town side had a 2% increase and on the electric they're the reverse at the town and 18% increase in the Board of Ed had 4.5% increase now I would assume he's the same utility company so the electricity was either a 4% increase or an 18% increase and the same would be said for fuel oil fuel oil went up 20 cents a gallon across the board I mean she's a certain amount but on a percentage basis the numbers generally look quite noted that those are negotiated negotiates efficiency 20% to a percent 80 percent to 4 percent I agree I don't stopovers it up the difference between the town and thing I said I calculated was one was 8 percent and one was 14 percent so that's a pretty big difference and unless Gerry came up to me everybody mention at this afternoon we used the numbers were Garrett Jerry has gone out and said this is where we think we're going to end up I'm not sure what the Board of Ed did but we can check to see if there was a difference in the percentage increases both the like that that's a good thing to look at because they should be very similar that's what I'm saying before we bring in a department I'd like to have no [Music] report of as long so those are that is right who are even if we're spying separately and should be similar yeah they should be moving in the same direction unless somebody has to find your contract or something like that discuss it that's what I'm saying they must be right now we were looking to lock in since this is the Board of Selectmen budget the Board of Selectmen I think last week did cut from the education budget about 180,000 can we review that in your in your proposal you know there were a number of items that Harry and I agree with and we thought that two things one at the end of the day we need to achieve a budget that we believe will be passed by the voters and a 5.4 percent increase seemed difficult with Harry and I not to be something that I don't think people would vote for that that's I could be wrong and in looking at the overall school budget though it's very hard to talk about specifics Harry does have some experience having sat on the board and he had identified what he thought were two hundred and thirty three thousand dollars in savings that they could achieve I don't want to get into the details because that's not really our job to decide how the school spend their money but we did agree that we needed to get the schools budget under five percent so we agreed on a number of $180,000 to get it under five percent I think it came for 92 I'm sorry it's not more scientific than that but at some point Glenn said this once you know you have to take a look at the numbers and then just make your best guess as to what you think there is what I did say that he quoted me correctly that was me correctly absolutely I know you back away from it so that's how we arrived at that number it's a big increase but again if you look at the schools and I do think you know we added in to this the 1718 budget the amount of money we appropriated these additional money we appropriated to the schools right to get their base budget from that year to this year but if you add in the money that we put into the schools this year both the schools from taking from other things right and the four hundred seventy thousand dollars that the town appropriated that gives them a new base new base for this 1718 actual expenditures of almost a million dollars more than their original budget if you compare that to the requested increase it's nowhere near 5.4 percent so what I'm saying is last year if if Colette and her team had known ahead of time that they were getting always special that kids they would have asked for one heck of a lot more money and we probably would have given it to them which sets their new base budget so if you take that new amount add it to their budget this year and then compare it to the increase they're asking for next year it's inward year's this big so nowhere near this five point four percent so that's something to think about I just absolutely understand it we funded these guys because they didn't have enough budget I don't see I'd probably not look looking at this right but I don't see where the department requests to the worst-looking budget was mr.
a button has taken a meeting it would be 30 to 10 a.m. now a softball Shakey's night fundraiser to be done 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. March 6 life skills were watching you for each culture from 8 a.m. to 2 p.m. Master Kota build a trip to LA in a.m. to 2 p.m. much night agency Hawkins dance in AHS turn 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. March 11 March 10th to 11th ASB / close buddies he waited event some idioms 3 p.m. March 10th and booster the Chrysler fundraiser in a.m. to 2 p.m. March 30th HS goes good you think and thank you all for coming a couple things I wanted to share with you first of all I wanted to thank the mountain GaN parents and mostly the students and the staff or what they presented to us tonight I have to say every time I come to this school there is always something good to see always something to to notice about the involvement of the parents the dedication of the teachers the wonderful kids that are here at this school and you deserve a lot of credit thank you very much for having us here really really appreciate it I also want to share that the other day I had a chance to walk into a teacher professional development session that was going on our our teachers all at all grade levels are implementing new textbook this year for language arts reading language arts reading and writing and they got some training before they even received books but they're continuing throughout the year to deepen their understanding of the work and to share with each other what they're doing and to to work together to develop lessons soon and pay attention how the kids are responding and adjust so that the kids are gonna learn as much as possible and I haven't and to the training for the first grade teachers which was a joy to me because I used to be a first grade teacher and I told something I was actually a little bit jealous because I wish I could be teaching that textbook and working with the kids at that age but what impressed me most was how rich the conversation was in each table there were probably about eight tables in the room with anywhere from four to maybe six or eight teachers at the table talking about what they were doing with the students how the students were learning and I had a chance to talk to each group of teachers about what they thought about the program how well the kids were responding to it and I have to really thank them because it's a lot of work to implement a new curriculum but they were there they were doing it and very pleased general with what they were seeing with the students so thank you to the teachers and Thank You mr.