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[Music] okay good evening everybody today is Monday March 19th this is a special meeting of the Brookfield Board of Finance I call this meeting to order because Stan enjoyed me for the Pledge of Allegiance my allegiance to the flag of the United States of America which it stands one nation oh my god okay so thank you everyone we did have five members of the Board of Finance and you expect our last member to roll in shortly a little bit after we start we will start the evening with a public comment for any members of the public here tonight that would like to get comment okay hearing none we'll move into a new business tonight we have designated as a workshop to discuss the budget so in addition to discussing the budget all facets there up we also have the capital budget that we will go over and eventually come to a decision on so what we have in front of the Capitol [Music] so we can do here is we can go through each one there's not that much there and we can give our thoughts and if we feel comfortable in the moment we can certainly go around and do a quick get your neck too or if you guys would rather we can save that till the end until we have a full complement preference I think we need to consider each one individually then as a whole okay so we will go through we will make notes and then we can go ahead and make a decision so first we have [Music] the reserved for turf fields at the high school they asked from the department was $250,000 this was postponed by the First Selectman is there anyone that was going to give comment on that or give a different point of view okay hearing none I'm of the opinion where we leave it as it is for now but again we can come back and decide on that at the end so no changes right now tennis court replacement we the request was a reserve of five hundred fifty thousand which was postponed by the selectmen can you comment on that [Music] all right hearing nothing further the next one was the replacement of an f-550 truck for a 65 thousand and that was put into over 10-year bond financing hello okay wait the next item Torro Precor aerator the request was for 26550 that was in over 10 year bond financing any comments on that I know that it's close to the $25,000 threshold us wondering if the lifespan of a Toro Precourt aerator is [Music] all right here life okay the next tie into septic roof doors and the floor in the Brookfield high school building sixty-five thousand let's put into over ten year without the selectmen questions comments or concerns on that hearing none the next item aluminum leaf and chip box this was a $14,000 request this was postponed by the First Selectman and just so-so everybody knows the time it would have taken in the mental muscle to move from postpone by First Selectman to postponed by Board of Selectmen was more than I was willing to commit today so if it says postponed by select for selectmen it was obviously passed by the crew it's a difference the next item was sealing the cracks at the tennis courts this was a $25,000 request selectmen have it as cash any discussion on that one this is something we have to we should be doing every single year to maintain these it's any other more tennis court replacement or do this until we replace the tennis courts we wouldn't do this yeah all right next item center school playground drainage and mulch that was a $15,000 request for maintenance and that was postponed by the selectmen recess time the kids get which are effects learning and and in $15,000 less I think it's something we should consider comments on that I do agree with that so for the sake of discussion Ricky why don't we the ones that we want to add and you missed our initial agreement we're gonna go through and we're gonna go through each of these and give our thoughts we're not going to make any decisions or move on anything until we have whatever color you want I would highlight it and then make the movement you know you can also do Ricky copy that tab so you have something fresh and then leave the copy as is and just work on the capital funding one yeah every change the car in town okay material dim roofs and trust replacement that was the next one that was 15,000 and that was postponed we do have a comment Parks and Rec stated this could move a year any questions or comments on that one it was postponed by the first by the selectmen okay next one huckleberry hill elementary school upgrade playground and border this did have to do I believe with the with this dairy around the swing sets and that was 15,000 that was postponed by the First Selectman any questions or comments on that one I mean I think that is have indicated that usually if there's extra bulbs that gets tossed on various projects the only concern was the swing sets are starting to come loose that's something that I do feel you know Dennis did mention that things were starting to move so I would prefer we take a look at popping that one in and see where we fall out we do realize everything we put into cash goes of the operating and everything we move from yes line goes to the like the 394 line on the front expenditure page and it increases these numbers so if you're looking at increasing our budget by X percent we got to be I'm not disagreeing with the toys are moving but I'm saying as we go through we already put thirty thousand to the left yeah it gets up there in a hurry there may be other movements so I agree alright so let's move down to the Assessor there was a request to upgrade the Assessor system this was postponed because we have another two years before this has to be implemented so I think we should do it next year to give them a year to really be up to speed before they stop supporting the prior version any further comment on that one okay leave it as possible now we get into public works and really decide more which was eighteen-years-old they would like to replace this the request was for one hundred and twenty nine thousand we did have some discussion with the Public Works Department they mentioned that there's a potential salvage value to the mower that's being replaced of about ten thousand Steve was that confirmed that replacement no I think they're right about ten thousand but for the purposes of this board you want the fund the entire amount because you can't do the offset you put a revenue number into the operating budget for it but fun for the entire I think that's true of everything we're going to get trade-ins on just to keep the new town and clean is that that the debits in the credits we should in this proposal when we make a resolution to fund the entire amount because if we take ten thousand dollars off the price we don't know what we're going to get when we do sell the old vehicle so you could put a revenue line in right in the operating budget in these amounts that we believe we're going to get but if we let's say lower this by ten thousand dollars and we get six thousand we're gonna be off on our budget we're going to be over on budget and there's no guarantee is that what we're gonna get for these vehicles so my suggestion is leave the full price of the vehicle in here and then put in a revenue line what we think we're going to get is a sale we don't care about capital things you do from an accounting standpoint but we're not paying taxes on it so you have to change your fixed assets right that's a game who's that is that the proper accounting though we would put the hole and then bond to the whole thing that's mine in further counsel any any discussion for the discussion on that one next one replace a 1990 Ford truck 35 BK 4 54,000 a discussion of melon replace the street sweeper there's a lot of discussion on this one good value apparently we left it in or it's in at 225,000 over 10 year bar length this is the one where we rented it every year anyway so we decided the purchases I'm sorry jamming I'm sorry this is the one where we decided to where we rented every year anyway so it's 40 to 50 thousand to have someone come in 10 years see if you approve it it seems a no-brainer - you're fired the next one the factor truck tanks yeah so at 40 you have to further discussion with our public works they believe they can repair this for four to five thousand dollars and it'll last at least one year maybe more so my suggestion would be to do that that came up when Public Works actually came in to visit with the poor diffidence okay they removed adding is there a room right now in their operating budget under you think they could do that under maintenance and their operating budget right now no I don't believe so I think what we should do is just put four thousand dollars in their operating budget that repair so then this one you have postponement for the sake of argument can put that in there so we know what to discuss later huh if it turns out that it's not really needed or you put it in cash we'll see four thousand of cash six I don't even know yeah not not on here better be a maintenance item essentially it's a plus five operating it becomes more of a maintenance then a capital improvement so really does belong in the operating budget might be next item of mini-excavator this one was an $85,000 request this most postponement selectmen there was discussion during the presentation that we really wouldn't see the value of purchasing this equipment any further conversation on that one next one replace a year 2004 truck your class pose for twins Oh necie garage very cheap as I saw was red I'm sorry replace the a/c unit at the garage that's 30 years old this one was putting his cash 5000 any discussion on that one back to the next one replace the year 2004 truck this was 27,000 under under 10-year bond financing yeah I don't think that's a land use vehicle Tina says over as you stated they would be willing to drop this that was under land use under 10-year bond because I'm the fire marshal vehicle we've already decided to recycle a Police Interceptor so the third item the fire marshal vehicle comes out of land use and it stays in here in the Public Works it's kind of a wash so this is 27,000 placeholder for the under 10 year financing that's a big yep the discussion that moves the next one in place to heat pumps in town hall the request was for 12,000 we have that in as cash discussion there the road paving we have a portion in cash and a portion to pond and this is one of those ideas that hasn't really been formulated into a policy which which could be if we determine policies our ways of working we have eight hundred fifty thousand designated to be paid for in cash and six hundred fifty thousand dollars to be paid for in bond and we've been tipping the scale towards cash over the past couple of years is there any discussion the split that we have there what was last years ago fifty says it's 750 and for six fifty two year before I was like the idea of having it moving in that direction Olivia just as 700 maybe 700 instead of earth 50 years but are we going down a slippery slinger got a change in a policy that we've stayed it's a steady course and now we're gonna change the slope but I mean if the goal is to eventually and this has been followed now for the last six years pretty steadily yeah so we're we're breaking it's up for discussion don't take it wrong but we would be breaking something that we really have agreed to many board members over the past so many years have agreed to this process it's no it's been a long-standing I mean everything's up for discussion but this is something if we change it now future boards will hack into it the other way it'll go could go not would go that choice of words could go the wrong way I think it's a good policy we need to get up pay for the roads in cash you know Richfield is going back and forth they have paid all cash and they paid all borrowing I think if you can do it pay it in cash teacher so I said Sharon's out beyond presenting he's kept the the Public Works have kept the 1.5 steady yes and it seems to work for Anna per mile basis and you can correct me if I'm speaking out of school so that numbers mean constant because the technologies have allowed us to get more roads for a cheaper price yep so that number stayed the same so all we've been doing is taking that 1.5 and like last year was 750 750 this year is 850 cash 6:55 the prior year was 650 cash 850 bunch so it's just gone through the aggressions we have 98 miles of roads and we've been consistently doing between 8 to 10 a year but also getting to a point where we don't have to fully replace a road we can just micro mill it which is a lot less expensive now we do that more often than replacing whole road but when you look at it overall costs say over 30 years it's about 30 percent a little more less expensive so we can get our roads in good shape and in micro mill all of them will be in better shape 10 years for that absolutely a few spending million 1/2 dollars every year on the same thing that's operating expenses John it's not it's not there if you're constantly borrowing for it and your mortgaging for so I applaud what's been done and I think we should continue the discipline what I would like folks to consider is the possibility of going from 850 650 to 800 700 because we do have things that are I think a priority last last year I made that suggestion and one of the board members made a very I think convincing argument not to stray from our path that's fine I like they also have I mean we also have commitments to the firehouses right we off on them and they've been cut in half almost every time so yes we do have these things and what I said that we have policies that are more ideas or ideas that are policies because these aren't written anywhere these aren't enacted in stone I don't have their ideals that we're trying to get to but when you have mulch running away from our playgrounds and swing sets uprooting themselves maybe it's time to not go full-bore on something and to take it back a little bit so like I said just things to consider as we're moving to do this next thing that we have replaced the second air-conditioner at the library that was ten thousand requests it was put in for cash any discussion on that one design an engineer the windows at the library we had some this one was a $15,000 request it was postponed by the first selected we did have an email I think that was shared with the board Ralph our public works director said that in his opinion the best course would be to do the study first and then see what it comes up with and then roll into a project that way we had discussed previously with with our board to look into funding they study plus the construction and for a Ralph's opinion that would not be a good course of action and everyone get a chance to read that and digest it any comments on that email or anything we'd like to do with this I think it's got to be put into the discussion what I would what I would like to discuss is putting this under one of those financing buckets because when we actually do go to replace the windows it's gonna be a couple hundred thousand dollars and we could roll the cost of the study into yesterday that you tend and we find the CIP and roll it up that's something we can do without adding it to so we have that for discussion the much-debated canopy canopy over the fueling station the request was for 50,000 and was put into over a ten-year bonding by the selectmen any discussion on that guy replaced the windows at the town garage this one was a $30,000 request so it was postponed by the selectmen they did have some discussion I don't know if it was glad or den that brought up can we do this in a phased approach to put some in and then do it you know bits and pieces instead of postponing the whole thing I want to revive that conversation or we okay with postponing it I'm up for reviving it any ideas on how we go about those half now No I gotta get through the whole list before you can put anything cuz if we we end up with a number at the end of the list that doesn't make any sense somebody's points becomes you I'm just wondering if this particular need can be paired up with the library window need an actual okay no but I'm saying at the time that we are going to purchase them I'm wondering if we can have the same contractor do the windows at both buildings your question for the windows in it and garage are nowhere near as complicated would think we can actually place them without going to contract or bid or a design we're just trying to replace some basic windows so we don't have to the libraries a lot of windows you know no idea what they would cost the windows in the town garage we have a pretty good idea so if you said to us you know okay guys we'll give you ten thousand this year and thousand exterior ten thousand and next year you know I can live with that I'd like to do them all it would saves us a lot of heat because these are single pane windows well but then they become operating cash again yeah well it's cash whether it's capital or operating you can put it in operating you're right a lot of maintenance things like this this is really replacing things I could absolutely see them in the operating budget you know on a separate line so you know what they are you don't lose track of them from year to year don't have budgets going like this could this be another situation where if we did let's say over two years when we funded this over two years that you would roll this into a two year CIP you could do it that way why to use them spread the pain of the budget was just too big whoo this time around just ideas yes Johnny maybe there's a bad idea that's not a minute now about pending teaching I really I really think that that for this budget and going forward we need to the board needs to maintain discipline in support of the town paying for maintenance in current periods I think that's the most disciplined and the most responsible way to budget period so anything that's that's purely maintenance which this is should be fit into an operating cash budget and if it's got to go up it's gotta go up if you got a color stuff it's got a color stuff but borrowing we've already I mean we've already talked about three or four different line items and maybe we can spread out if you keep doing that and you keep eating into the pavement and you do them windows and you do this you're not gonna have that enough money to do all the big projects because you do it year after year after year after year we have to be disciplined should get operating expenses current and capital expenses spread that's mine so any any time this comes up that's gonna be my my opinion but you use the key word in their discipline mm-hmm that word discipline yep is the key word across everything and it's the key word about operating budgets and everything else it's making hard choices so when you flip that switch which I'll be on board to flip that switch the backside of that switch is the operating budget can go over six percent so that's it so then you got to make the choices on the back side I agree to education whether it be whatever the total budget once you get into six percent range or in a range of I hate so the key word is disciplined I'm not disagreeing I use the word on purpose you let me know how many windows there are today we please make every time I Drive by the public works I can't figure out how many windows there actually I have another kid can we bring some when the fire to Center from Center up to the table because we're asking his question but the last meeting if you'll there we need that covered but the last minute we're talking with with the the staff that was here and they said you were now looking at possibly double-hung windows a lot cheaper there was a some discussion that 30,000 was more than enough for not too much okay so yeah it's okay we want to replace this we have casements in there now we just want to replace it with standard windows [Music] it's but they're only 12 days that's spreading it out over a couple of years versus you know [Music] I'm with Dan and we're gonna move it but you got to move it operating and then you got to make a hard decision on operation all right all right next up replace carpet at the police station okay so before we before we go no no no cuz I'm thinking this day if we leave it off capital tonight right we say not capital tonight we have to decide on capital tonight right so then the discussion is we can have the discussion later in the week on whether we put it in operating or not an operating correct I mean if it doesn't make it into column G and or one of the other bonded columns then yeah it's out of right so then we have the opportunity to get costs and decide whether they want to put in the operating by the end of the world or if it's really a maintenance type item we have the opportunity to see if public works can squeeze it in there what they have now or what will be approved as early as cheaper when they didn't price out double-hung in that 30 grand maybe they can squeeze in a couple every now and then they have budget I think their budget is tight enough we're gonna tell you we can't fit $30,000 into our operating budget if you want to add to the operating budget whatever you decide 10,000 15,000 dude over two years and so we lessen the impact on the research that's yeah the number is we can ask them to come in and describing the greater detail but it sounds like it's not gonna make the capital the way to go so it's it for tonight it's we get bring them in and talk about and put it in any operating I mean I might be saying something wrong that's no more than likely what's gonna happen well I think as we move along to Dan's point you know we've been moving this up 10,000 20,000 30,000 40,000 once you move up to that point throw it into the operating budget and have the discussion there but make it a separate item so you know what it is in case you go from say no this year but we're gonna say yes next year just trying to be transparent with windows anything on the window carpet at the police station the request was for 12,500 this project was postponed to trot selectmen and commentary on this one next month miscellaneous repairs at Old Town Hall I believe our Parks and Rec Department is using the old town hall and that's a $10,000 request that was put into cash okay the next one we have replaced the exterior light at the police station was a five thousand dollar request and that was postponed by the selectmen none design an engineer Town Hall restrooms the request was for $10,000 and that was postponed - elections there okay nothing for those weak move on to the police police had requested three market control cars for 125,000 I have that under under a ten-year bond financing many questions on that we have computers laid open I do and it's not on these time police cars but it's on the previous three police cars and when do we address where we put that $122,000 is that part of this discussion or is that that's that I think would be a separate discussion because it's been approved question is how to finance it right that's a different discussion right now it should be under short-term financing that's what it was a window we discussed last year I know we discussed it last year but it's got to be funded this year out of either a capital budget or an operating budget what we need to make that decision is the reconciliation so do you suggested we put in 250 on that line I was what would it hurt us financially have to put the 250 in the short-term right now in this budget whatever and just not spend it I don't know the logistics of the accounting till the budget was 133,000 we actually spent 120 to 5 so the question becomes did we do what would the original intent was to borrow short term in looking back over our records this was this was through 2 years ago there was when we went to you the savings that we want to borrow this they said you're still going through your issue with a 3.3 million we want dreams of data and that is so we decided to hold off till we clean that up and we did do that so now we could go borrow the 120 to 5 right what is where Dan is saying plug it into this line-item put it in at one time get rid of the headache twice in the same thing with umber oh no no no we approved it for borrowing it's been in the capital budget that would be double dipping you could put it in the operating budget from 22 but how do you do that then that doesn't that much because I've even lost when you put in the operating budget if you don't know in case basically paying back right it's not in this funding that the general right you're gonna reimburse it you know when it's in another fund we was approved for borrowing we didn't borrow it but we paid cash for it and now that has to be paid back somehow but until we have that reconciliation of our bonded capital fund we don't know if that 122,000 is already there for us to move into so if we put an item in the operating budget alright guys on this one alright so what we're trying to figure out here would be the best recommendation on what to do about 120 mm okay we can't borrow twice for it right so putting it in this column to have a $247,000 item under there is not as I see it the Board of Finance of food for this purchase to be paid for with short term financing you'd have to do another resolution to undo that so what I suggest is we do what we said we were going to do borrow short term to pay for this over three years and what action is needed from us now it would be already be approved we'll just execute the bar room which we didn't do last year because any issues with the three point three do you satisfied then we fit back into your obsession I think we can talk about it another time that 122 that you mentioned is going to now be able to cover these three masters budget we approved 133 to be borrowed for three years to pay for three cars he paid 120 to five for the cars now what we should do is actually do the borrowing where those three cars okay that cleans up the squares up last year and then you just move forward any discussion on the three cars that are on the screen the next item computer software for 61,000 now this is made up of a bunch of different things it's in our binders anyone like to discuss get any more detail it's just one just one point on this we don't want to borrow for this because it'll be taxable and then we have this have two different issuances it doesn't make sense the next one one pickup truck that was requested for forty six thousand six hundred when I was reviewing this file we did have the number 27 in there is that related to anything I took it out because there's no that one was postponed by the first leg select any discussion on that one next item traffic radar I was in there though the crest was for 4385 and I was put into cash [Music] there was a request for 2d bikes for 11,000 this one the chief did mention that they were going to look at purchasing your knees out of the outside service fund I think that one can leave him as postponed or cut out all right now we have Candlewood fire an apparatus reserved in there the request was for a three hundred thousand the selectmen had honored a request for seventy-five thousand in cash and in post : 225,000 any discussion on this one it comes down to what we talked about the last meeting that we've got to get agreements in place to make them feel comfortable to operate their budgets they're planning ahead they're being proactive they put forth the request on a proactive basis and due to our cash restraints which we've talked about left and right we keep cutting it down they're trying to plan ahead for equipment that it's going to become obsolete and we don't have a safety net to catch them if they come down to the process of when they need a truck we need to have two million dollars on hand or whatever the number is so we need to address this in some kind of an agreement like we talked about or we got a funded one what are the other I think you'll be hard-pressed to get hard numbers in an agreement other than the town will put aside the funds and we'll make up the difference between what has been put aside in cash what the fire departments have raised in cash with long-term borrowing I'm not certain what else do we have an agreement I think well I think in the agreement would be the schedule of when the equipment needs to be replaced so when they come to us in 20 years to 2020 say is a good term and they need a fire truck in 2020 we don't know well maybe next year and then it's 2021 and then we say well maybe next year then if 2022 I'm certain that was the intent though to push off the actual purchase no I'm just saying it has to be in this agreement to structure it around because again even something like on the roads we had an agreement of the 850 750 now we're talking about what I'm saying is they need to know that in 2020 if their equipment is obsolete we're coming to the table in 2020 they're not going to get a a postponed I think that I think the issue with the roads though is something similar to the town to do in 1.5 million in roads right now we're getting there with some cash and with some bonding and hopefully flipping it to the cash side right right I think you can draw strong parallel to these apparatus an ambulance reserves where yeah we're putting aside money it's not as much to do it like this year but the commitment is still there to make up the difference in borrowing when the time wrecked correct I agree with you the 1.5 is a number what I'm saying has to be done at the year that they requested in other words we've taken the 1.5 annually and we've accepted that number annually we can't take a 20/20 need of to a million dollars in sight to them she postponed it next year and then the port changes in the next year they say postpone it again what I'm saying though is I don't think the I don't think the intent is put to postpone the purchase the intent is to fund as much as we're comfortable with in cash and make up the difference when the time comes right but that's the key word when the time comes and that has to be something that goes along with a schedule that they produce absolute Renaissance and they produce that schedule I think now it's a matter of actually putting it on paper in doing that because our owners could look at it and said here you have an unfunded liability that you've got to put on your books right now if you make it written you have to care whether you're right I'm not gonna write anything we're gonna go to I agree the council for this we need to do it we need to have an agreement but we have to be careful how we write it which is why we are not going to write it we're gonna ask Council to do it so we don't get ourselves back you know does anyone from the board have an objection to members of the fire companies giving additional input on these as we go along no big no Miguel speaking of like please come over to the mic at home yes assistant chef Angela centerfire company we're not looking for a commitment for money numbers for you guys you know in an agreement it would be the schedule for both fire companies and a time frame you know that you guys with no way in advance when our big purchase would be coming and what you guys have helped us set aside every year and what we're able to pull in in in donations we're able to basically put it together and buy the equipment we'll have a very good idea for you way ahead of time price-wise and we know when they need to be replaced pumpers need to replace every 20 years that that's industry standard and without that the ISO comes involved and we have insurance issues with your homeowners insurance and things like that which nobody wants but we have a pretty good handle on our apparatus replacement and and I feel more confident after the last meeting with you guys and and once we cleared up Steve you and I support what the town's commitment is to us that's I think the doable item I definitely think we need to have something the writing work together there's departments that have it around here that kind of a commitment and a process and I think that would behoove all of us and the community and that way we know you know we don't have to lay a big purchase on you you guys know you know 18 years out we got a buy a ladder truck and you know we can plan for it and and we were committed to raising all the funds we can't build fire companies but again the fungi Stagner we're coming to you guys for help this is uncharted territory for us in the fire company you guys have never bought a fire truck before or even helped us so this is new for us and we're we're trying to you know come up with something so we all feel confident because I can assure you in 10 years you guys are all probably not gonna be here we will and we need to have something that we can all agree upon and I think that would help us out great so you guys have any questions with that when you want to set that up please let us know I feel comfortable to numbers mr.
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Dunn that you put in there for the fire company for center fire company that's fine because we can figure it out on the back end well I think our goal is I think this board and the Board of Selectmen have always said hey we've seen your schedule it's good clean schedule we understand it fully it makes a lot of sense but I think the purpose of these reserves is to simply avoid running into that problem where we have a three million dollar hit in a year where all of a sudden other things come up when we say to you sorry guys no a truck we would help this money away every year all right so maybe we have to follow 300,000 or 400,000 it's not 2 million and we can fit it right in we wouldn't be helping you do your jobs and you know stew ours if we did do that thank you the questions comments concerns and the Candlewood fire apparatus reserved mom can we just put a placeholder there for now I'd like to get back yeah I mean this is all of this is all up so we haven't made any decisions the highlights are there because those are good ones that folks want to go back and talk about insulating the second attic that was a request for 11,000 and it was honored by the selectmen that's cash anything of your discussion there new command vehicle that was the request was for 85,000 that was vehicle plus all about fitting in tools as they don't have those at the moment and that was postponed by the selectmen discussion [Music] I'll use the timer's if I have to no Mon it's gonna be really sure that promise just in regards to that I know you guys have a lot of discussion on operating budget tonight if we could get that funded at the cost of the actual vehicle in the arrange of the fifty-five thousand in our operating budget over the years we can outfit the vehicle so if that puts it back into consideration I would appreciate it now you said fund it to your operating budget as an additional request or within your current and within our current ask over how many years the couple it would take we would downgrade their radios we got I would have to play with the numbers but I could if I could get the vehicle I could find money in the operating budget to outfit it well there was an outfitted vehicle though without everything you need in it [Music] Jeff you remember off the top grab [Music] well I think it's alright if you're saying that you know what needs to be in there and you know that you could fund within your current operating budget to a manner with which you're running a well-equipped vehicle for the time then I don't think we enlist anyone wants further clarification I think that's good enough Thank You vets no 55 I think we could we could change the original or quite well we could change the changing now you're there one of them are just make a note somewhere just to be clear you changing the amount of the request meant yes you can change the original replies kind of 55 [Music] next one thermal imaging camera two the request was for 16,500 and that was fully postponed by the selectmen any questions on that one yeah I saw that that was [Music] the new boat the request was for 250,000 and that was postponed by this first in the vial of Selectmen any discussion on this one I think we talked about that we got to have the meeting we gotta sit after this budget go through a meeting and plan it out if we're gonna do it we put it in next year's capital plan we take more than a the week to review this number and I'm not saying it's not needed it probably is needed but if we can we need it to sit down and go through all of this and have a better plan would you like to try and do something in April or May if a preference think as soon as possible so we have an understanding so they could better manage their donation money they could better not better manage but I mean it Nollan to have actually managed what numbers they have I think it's you know if it's that they tell us it's a need I believe it's a need I just think it came at such a late stage for a big number to understand it [Music] hi-yah when it comes to the boat if we could get the board's agreement and since it's never been used before we have for the last about five years had the towel put money aside in the apparatus or chakra service and called two different things at different times if we could use that money to help offset the cost of this boat we could use some of our savings to purchase the rest of this boat with the understanding that we're in an odd spot spot in our apparatus replacement schedule as you guys have in your book that we're replacing apparatus looking to replace apparatus back-to-back years so if it would be this board who eventually approves what we use out of that apparatus trees are fun that's been put over for the last five years or if it's the Board of Selectmen if we could use that with the understanding that set up the meeting that you guys are speaking about which is great and needed we could I guess the question would be since no one's ever used the apparatus reserve fund the money's been put aside in how you actually go about using this I would have to say about 150,000 put money away for the last two years we'd have to check on prior years because it wasn't specifically it meant that different centers on me and Steve had on balance because what I'm seeing here [Music] that would include our savings and also Plus what the town has put aside okay so all together yeah yeah but that includes next year you're planning on behind six hundred sacks where we're in an odd situation right so no matter what its gonna be left pocket right pocket the way you do the math yeah they're still gonna be on the hook the talents of them have to fill up the same money it's just yeah could we just is the boat in an absolute immediate need because we I don't feel like it's an absolutely immediate movie and if you allow the town to be able to plan for this over the next three years it really eases what the town can provide I'm gonna give you five seconds Becky I'm thinking was much I think yeah I think with the boat I kind of feel like maybe a lot could be felt with the library but I'd like to see what other options like that was presented had all the bells and whistles and is all that necessary I've never bought a book aside to kayaks I don't really know but I don't know you said they would be one of the best boats on the lake and you know what other options are there to get you a functioning booth that maybe doesn't do every single that's the vote that we have proposed here is a mirror image of what we currently have so it does not have any extra bells and whistles from what we currently have it's the cost of the vessel that is going up over the past 13 to 15 years from when we originally purchased it so we are matching what we currently have we're modifying some things but we are it's a match well you turn both the front end doesn't drop them yes it does drops down have the powerful pump to put out fires and yes it does it has boliya as powerful no but it has it has the bow gate that drops down and it has a pump on it so it's called a diverter valve you know through the jet drive so we're eliminating this diverter valve and adding a pump - yeah I realize that but I don't think this boat is comparable to your existing boat at all I just don't it's absolutely what I would like to see when you come to the board to the boards with things like this is show us three options tell us the advantages and disadvantages of each option and what the costs are and why you want to go with this boat there's more than one boat manufacturer out there proposed we have three bids we have three bolt manufacturers we're not set to one boat right now but we would I personally I would like to see that I'd like to see why are you proposing this boat versus that boat or the advantage of hosing specs so when you design a piece of apparatus you create specs as do stuff that you wish we wish to have these options they will go out to bid they're different both manufacturers and we will get back prices we'd like to see that okay well just I want a boat it's 250,000 I'd like to see the specs I'd like to see what your thinking is why you say we need this option that option this option this one else is you guys are the experts we're not so the more information you give us the better and I think you know if you came to us and said here are the options here so why we want to outfit it this way versus this way I think the boards would get a much better feeling that yeah you know what this is the right book this is what we need for book people I'm just saying it would be are you asking us I mean this goes down to only coming back with a firetruck are you gonna be questioning the same items alright as to why we have certain things on our piece of apparatus yeah I'm curious get nuts to pay for it yeah that's reasonable you know when when Public Works comes to me and says I need an f-550 essay why do you need an F 550 versus a 350 or 150 and they say well we're doing this we have a heavy-duty plow going on it but they give me all the reasons that they need that and I say okay that makes sense you know last year with Parks and Rec we talked about a pickup truck and after the discussion they went from the 350 to a 150 because we realized maybe we don't need the extra heavy-duty 350 there are trade offs and you have those discussions and it's not us telling you what to do it's having the conversation so we fully understand your needs and how best to meet those needs I think that's reasonable first I was just you spending two or three million dollars first I would just like to put in a record that this boat is comparable to the current boat we have just to make that very clear it is a different pump design because the pump does not work on candle and Lake I'm not disagreeing with you Ryan I'm just saying you haven't shown that to me you just come to me and said I want a boat and at the last meeting you did describe it what I'd like is more information just like I get from all my other departments you know they tell me if they want to buy a piece of equipment why do you need this piece of equipment versus this piece of equipment why do you need an excavator that has a three yard capacity versus a 2 yard capacity and you couldn't you just go through the conversation so you get the board's comfortable that you've done your research you've done your work and you want to come to us and say this is what I mean and this is why I need it I think that's reasonable and we are willing to work with the board on it I was just stating that I put it in I'm sure we did give a description of it I didn't fight the Board of Finance I had a very nice meeting with two board finance members about the boat I unfortunately no one else is able intent I understand schedules this was in the budget last year it was in our plan for a price replacement which was submitted with our budget last year so it is not a brand-new item and we have had discussions on can we swap it around they have back-to-back Capitol years the truck in a boat can we put the boat in two this year buy it at the end of this year in this budget buy it at the end because it'll be the beginning and then the boat will be left open for discussion for next year's capital they got back-to-back capitals they're gonna come to us next year and ask us for a truck they're asking for a boat this year a truck next year by the time we put in the capital and we actually buy the truck at the end of the fiscal year next year it might as well be forward looking into that next budget if if they don't buy it till June of 2019 or they buy a July of 2019 it's a different budget year could we consider funding the truck now in this capital that gives them a full 12 months to get us the boat information that we need and only delays the boat 12 months so you're talking about putting I'm talking about famous back-to-back Apple right now they have back-to-back needs as what was just said they have a general by truck next year they want to bike get a boat for their needs this year a truck for their needs next check if we approve the truck right now which again is a need probably to a schedule can that then allow us to take the time in this next year to get the boat situation under control because next year what's gonna happen if they bring us the boat in the truck you're looking at a number that would probably won't pass both of those are gonna be bonded though yeah but things got a point you know you really think about it we're not saying no the boat we're saying we don't understand the boat right now that's the key to this whole thing and what Steve said the three quotes we don't have the quotes what I'm saying is can we have an understanding of what the truck cost can we prove that in this year's we got to buy the truck I mean ten years before they can get better scheduling for the apparatus reserve so that they don't have to borrow as much in the future I mean it sucks that we have to kind of take the Hitman ship for these next two years but I mean I'm willing to help them with rescheduling this so that what gets funded in their apparatus reserve makes it said I wouldn't have to leave behind going forward that's an apparatus reserve and if it's there with the pound money if it's there with their money and have it on this schedule then would be rather irrelevant because if they have let's say for the sake of argument that we haven't validated this so I'm saying for the sake of argument if they have five hundred thousand dollars all in between town and their own funds I then this doesn't have to be on this schedule and it could be an appropriation that goes through Board of Selectmen go to Finance because that money is in the general fund already and it's set aside in this reserve so it makes this discussion then irrelevant it can stay off of this schedule you can still put the money into the apparatus reserve and the request could come from you to you to us I need you to speak just stretch that out into something that's a little less this is fun that's fun okay so the money's not in the general fund otherwise you'd have surpluses in your general fund from year two years money's been already moved down into the capital non-recurring or the equipment reserve funds what is your point then can we then do an appropriation or no can this happen you don't have to authority it's already been appropriated it's already been passed in previous budget romantics here what could happen and said the fire could company could come to us and say hey we want to purchase this the Board of Selectmen would make an appropriation for it to the warden and supportive finance which considering we'd have to prove it first and then you would prove it and then we would make the expansion so this then becomes relevant if your priority really is this boat net break now Frank if this is your priority and you're telling me that through prior budgets this money hasn't set aside and it's in this fund we can strike this and it becomes irrelevant it's not all the way to Arizona shop am I missing something there's like 150 there we're putting 75 in doubt it's two and a quarter you see me have 500 total okay Ryan is saying that they have in their pocket though other funds and if this is a priority I'm saying you could take what's been put aside and try our budgets and the apparatus Reserve that Kimberly just mentioned supplemented with what they have and their coffers and this becomes irrelevant and if there really is a priority and they can use it for that seventy-five thousand if we choose to leave it there could stay there and be put aside into that a dradis reserve fund right so you said for that truck so by doing that two things one you're basically committing to when Ryan comes to Steve and Steve comes to us we all say yes number one number two we're taking that money I'm just going to taking that money from the ten 20 30 years that was gonna be applied to and using it for this one space that we're basically pre approving the use of that money for this purpose in this year by which might not be the worsening world what we're doing we're bypassing the meeting which is gonna lay it all out to solve this immediate problem no I don't worry about enhancement they have to put their presentation together it can either be a joint meeting between the Board of Finance and the Board of Selectmen or they do it twice over if it makes it through the Board of Selectmen it gets to the board of fine if nothing this is just just just a plan or a theory right now if that doesn't go into column G H I or J then it's out of our discussion let's say for tonight and then it's a discussion for another time either way nothing I wouldn't say that it's pre-approved the conversation is the same regardless of whether we do it tonight or you do it a month from now or two months from now I agree with that I can go along with that process I think that we need to have the meeting still we need to understand and then we need to understand their priorities along the way and we need to agree to priorities because if they spend the 250 on the boat now which I'm saying it's their decision it's their core knowledge right that leaves 250 less to fund the fire truck in the back to back gear and it just leads to less apparatus fund I know we combined and I understand on that but I think the meeting is that important that we really understand the full band they commit to their priorities fully commit which they are I mean just to rethink this process and then we put forth the plan and then you raise their money I mean to spend on their needs it's far be it from us to tell them what they're new it just to save people to ask for approval know it's still got to go through the process I get that but far be it from us to really tell them how to save the people of work field that's I can't make that decision and Shawn to that point I will agree with if from what I got out of it was we would have get approval to spend it out of the apparatus reserve to purchasable along with loan money during that meeting I could then probably push the apparatus the truck purchase baffi year if that gives the town more time to help save a little bit Martha meeting this all becomes again work willing to work with you guys to make your needs and being able to fund you properly and this is all part of the meeting we're discussing we need to sit down and spend more than 10 minutes or 20 minutes that it had a budget meeting and understand to make commitments and I think we're committed to sit down to the meeting we're committed to from what Shawn and Dan are saying and maybe I'll speed up everybody's if you have money in this fund we're committed to hearing then you can spend the money in this fund on the boat if you feel it's really necessary to go through the processes through the Board of Selectmen I don't know what the process is but I would assume through the board selectmen all of us we just want to have the meeting so we understand everything totally I mean and I think Andy said it perfectly every year he comes he speaks to six new faces every year he comes a different this board is gonna be here for quite a few years I mean a lot of us have for your seats most of us are here for four years season if we can get an understanding at a meeting that gives you four years of the same people right I mean so I think the meetings important so I got a lot of what Shawn says is totally does anybody else have questions before I go back to my seat then you have to believe 24 it's an $11,000 that we purchased that with the town money last year last year Andy and Ryan just so you can reconcile the amounts that are on hand work so we have these discussions maybe an April or May yeah for these specific things we know 100% what each parties coming to the table with I don't want to see bank statements I'll take your word for it when you guys reconcile but but you have donations come together and we know exactly what's on hand were talking about a lot centerfire actually out though before we get too much into the center fire I think the same logic it will apply right they have money in their apparatus fun right so if we done some of their needs we might want to do the same thing we have a pretty solid apparatus play we know when we have expenses coming up this year we are refurbishing our ladder truck which is 17 years old another 17 years out of it so it'll be going out to get refurbished how we get in the fall so we have a plan for that [Music] the big thing with the apparatus replacement plan is it's an evolving item it's gotta be looked at every year with you guys and we need to have a meeting with you guys probably in the summer when you guys are done you know with your busy season and sit down with both between old fire companies the ambulances and the backup so because over 20 years things are gonna change I mean are we have reduced our fleet over the years we've streamlined things we've added different apparatus just because the town's demands change so that's something every year that we need to update with you guys but on record and it would give you a better idea of how to plan for these things thank you free you one just hang out there that's where I'm staying okay we have apparatus reserved the request was four hundred twenty six thousand two hundred sixty dollars the selectmen put it in seventy five thousand in the cash reserve and deferred the remainder and we are okay with that I need a certain circuit the conditions that we are discuss any okay then an ambulance reserved the request was for sixty nine thousand four hundred fifty eight and that was put into cash by the selectmen any questions or comments on this okay next one the Lucas CPR device winners by the cash the reserves we bind there before years Lucas CPR device 16500 this was deferred by her postponed by the selectmen this would this year for our notes would round out the fourth year of a four-year commitment any questions or comments on this one you know it was my understanding though when we have meaning that if we funded the 51,000 for the apparatus reserve and we funded 16,000 for that they were willing to postpone another item I thought I had come here no we have that later on we once Steve discussed what the plan was and we haven't let me get down okay so you're good yeah we have something yeah we go down I would like to Lucas device a fee it seems like I mean there's no no doubt about it if that is there's one piece of equipment that's on here that's gonna save somebody's life they could save anybody your family's like what's that it's something to think about would we like to flag that for all right we have an incident command vehicle in a 55 thousand this was postponed if if you look at the $75,000 we have for the heating control system we sent you guys an email we would rather see the incident command vehicle and the generator restored and we can eliminate the $75,000 and postpone it for next year we were looking at some alternatives it was very difficult to get people to come to bid the job and we only had really one company come out and gave us a figure and we're working with Mark Mulvaney at this point a few other people to try to get that number it down it was a basically just a placeholder for us because we needed to do the system but you know we only got one room but you really feel comfortable with that and when we got the discussion with you guys that was you know gonna be kind of how we handled that we're okay with eliminating at and I want to look look into next year getting more accurate and better and a scaled down on the company that came in it was high-end and it was difficult to get people to come in and look at the at the building so we're working on it once we got ahold of mark he's been pretty good about he's working with lumen in this so we would like our preference the fire companies would be to eliminate that and get the into the community ACO and a generator which was inadvertently left off and pushed off those two items are crucial sauce it's gonna snow again on Wednesday four-wheel drive vehicles we need them it's it's it's a crucial thing for us operationally but Andy you had said that if we fully fund the apparatus reserve the fire company ability to take up the incident command correct because you gave us that fifty one thousand we would we would take them you taking a sick man vehicle so it's one way or the other you know what we need to see we need we need to buy the vehicle so so the question is cash or bond it'll last election year shakyck no but if we just pay if we bond just the incident command vehicle postponed - no I think what did you say in the cell they'll buy the vehicle if we fully fund the this year's request apparatus reserve these morning tomorrow and just till I spread out I paused and I'd rather put the cash into reserve and let them take care of the truck incident command their culture that's your guys Jeff however it happens I just know that we need to make it happen we pushed it off from last year and this year you just needs to happen we've had too many incidents and things are going on and it's a neat it's not a while and I just could say hey I'll go along but every time and I don't know the answer but every time we moved fifty thousand over to the left side of the for spreadsheet you gotta take something off on the back side of the operating because we're gonna be someone somewhere something's got to give at some point now because if you're saying from the reserve of the fifty one thousand that becomes an operating cash right that's the left side ten years frontline service and then after ten years it'll go into a wind-up are on it yeah a reserve so leave the reserve at seventy-five and yeah that's the either way this is this this is this is the appropriate thing to the power forth as opposed to some other stuff there right yeah it'll be ten years out of its my short yeah yeah yeah smoking generally for us smaller vehicles like this we attend years out of large fire apparatus pumpers we get twenty years out of other things that are big ticket items we send them out to get kind of refurbished we try to get thirty years out you know we understand the whole deal I'm gonna destroyed so I'll ask the question then how do we determine which command vehicle is more important the center fire or the Kenda with fire departments did your poultry do I am a suggester both they're both essential items they really are during the snow standard bad weather with which we have frequent events these things are used all our our Chiefs cars use every day are coming vehicles use every day mom it's it's an essential piece of equipment I mean it station money on we weren't there and big apparatus especially in bad weather when we run the risk of really having some damage done to our trucks I mean if we bang up a fire truck 50 60 80 100 thousand dollars of damage isn't out of the question and then this a more maneuverable vehicle prints out from happening and also as far as running incidents out of we're mandated to do a lot of things in this vehicle kinda helps us do that so they're both essential far as I'm concerned I mean I'm not gonna speak for them but I I know we do the same thing with your command vehicle can we buy the base and you cover the equipment we are operated we are already ER that's why can't I went down see that's the base and and that's that's a not a Cadillac man he means it's a stripped piece of utility equipment that we use we have the one now that's 11 12 years old okay so the one the new command vehicle for handle it is a replacement or is it in addition to because it says the note that we have is that we only have one vehicle that's capable you're gonna have to talk to them about that - because for them the one we got was on a grant years ago and it's just this time [Music] all right highlight it for discussion the next one gasps tonight meet a replacement left leg roll 57 yep the gas meter I guess detector meter replacement and that was a 12,000 request in cash for 12 [Music] we use these every day and they have exceeded their life we have this protects our firemen we gotta replace it protects you know we go into people's homes or see largets the generator I think this one was renamed and I think we I didn't catch the gravy bathroom remodel well we preemptively put it into over 10 years but that decision you'll get 30 years at it at least again it's we got 33 out of the way it's it's something that's just um the HVAC you stated that this can wait you have any 5,000 it was postponed by that's later okay and the brick reseal the replacement $23,000 request as well but it's that's a bottom request that's that's a I want not a need I mean it we do need to take care of its ability it's a town building pretty much we paid for it but comes back to the town [Music] just tell me 20 gone about five feet yeah it's something's probably gonna gonna be 10 years right well let's say every 10 years or so it is some it is something we could wait a year on I mean it's not a vital ya know gonna be like a one-time things at one time yeah and like I said it's not a piece of equipment to me emergency equipment life-saving equipment those are needs and vital things for us yeah apparatus things like that the other things you know as we get them you know we have to push them off this if you're considering Windows as maintenance how do you not consider [Music] peanut capital I don't [Music] okay any further discussion on that one thank you sir unless you want to speak on behalf of the library so we have public library computer replacement the request was for 12 five selectmen put it through 8500 cash and postponed four thousand any discussion on this when we do get to it I would like to consider funding I know we're adding to the left but I would like to consider funding the whole twelve five [Music] next one ad a compliant bathroom the request was 23:5 selectmen put it through as under 10-year financing any comments there you could make it long-term financing bathrooms last a long time the ones in town life this needs to be done though if we put this off year after year after year and we're really disadvantaging some of our residents or using that downstairs gotta be done I think we need to do it because we're gonna now we're not getting a new library we're gonna need to bathroom down there anyway to be clear there are a couple bathrooms there there are there's an 88 compliance okay to design public education first up at the high school we have a generator and a transfer switch the generator is 350,000 the transfer switch is fifty thousand Steve you had mentioned in an email that there was a quote for three hundred seventy thousand was that all energist for the generator generating and transfers three hundred seventy one thousand five hundred from one proposal so I think we can move this to 375 in case there are small pieces or little things that need to be done and then I do think this needs to be done it is this is our emergency does it doesn't matter how I bucket eyes in this I'm sorry it's a long-term purchase should last twenty thirty years again it would be propane it just need to do it Tuesday we cannot leave it in a striking 25 from there what's it gonna save us straight on 25 you don't need it we don't borrow it right that's exactly right no need you got a quote for 374 without any incidentals there are certain items that we might want to switch over might only be authorized but unissued so we could leave it yeah it's an authorized up to spend right so and be done on it up to spend yeah any further discussion on that renovate the boys locker room 50,000 that was put into over 10 years financing questions our discussion on that one get it done construct outdoor restrooms foodservice and storage that request was for a hundred thousand and that was postponed by the select and we do have in the audience Colette's term chairperson of the Board of Education should anyone have any clarifying questions I'm putting Collette on the spot any any discussion on that item I was a for priority on the list then we get into the public education district live replace the choral risers Colette did send to me and I distributed to the board members pictures of the risers sagging without any students on them keep that in mind for our discussions that's 15,000 it was postponed by the selectmen discussion I know I said it before I'll say it again that I would consider putting this back in I think of all the small ones that were messing around with this one is from what I understand the risers are used district-wide they're used for internal and external purposes and they're dangerous this support damn too early so let's let's move this one over in marketing to speak at the time and attendance system that request was for 60,000 and it was played under 10-year financing by the Board of Selectmen in the additional discussion on that one this is just software that's hardware and software [Music] Tecton design contingency that's in for 300,000 the request was for 300,000 it's over 10-year bond financing I believe the assumption here is that this study will roll into any project that goes into place should it be approved after presented so this one was rolling to that bond capital questions comments concerns nothing she can move on from that thanks Colette to and we have our technology normal computer replacements the request was for 6400 the selectmen put 5,000 in cash and postponed the remainder any discussion on this one I would like to consider putting in that 1,400 in cash it's rather de minimis in the grand scheme I'd like to consider that in our later deliberation network upgrades 13,000 internet cash any further discussion on our okay software licenses 20100 the most - yeah I did have a question that one when presented she said that it was partially based on the Microsoft Office will be supported but actually it's supported until October 18th of 2020 so it doesn't seem like it's an immediate need if we're looking for things to postpone that might be one that we can the way she explained it to me is that our licenses is expired I'm not sure what other company's agreements are on the Microsoft website page they know Microsoft Office 2010 is off is supported until one version of it is already extended as it's like but it's not just licenses for that that's why is this Israel more than sorry not the elbow sorry that was $20,000 included the cybersecurity but most of bulk of that was [Music] since its cash it can wait till next week do we get a better answer right so essentially yes so it can leave it as cash and we leave it as cash with an asterisk so to make sure of what Eileen saying is correct or not correct your spent a part of both actually we have until - you can spend when I say next week Wednesday night we should be able to get this information by Wednesday yeah yeah I'm hoping we get it tomorrow right [Music] primer fee is only for the sole purpose of no we don't have a generator and to put a generator in because we have four different million boxes the power comes into the building it would be most people ground a laptop you're gonna be able to most people have desktops we do have some laptops that people take when I come like here but virtually everyone's on the desktop printers and at 2,500 2,000 cash 500 [Music] Landy's replaced the year 2012 [Music] and if it's if it's approved at all yep okay so let's yep well I like that one consider moving Melanie cash what was the reason it was only twelve thousand because we're gonna use the fire marshal truck working itself to the fire department they read to buy it for twenty five thousand and the cost of the vehicles thirty seven thousand so we have an offset I mean I don't think you should be bonded but again should that be short-term finance well it's right gross stuff yeah that's true that's true they make accounting Michael that's true so 3:37 well for twelve thousand he put it under cash anyway according to our unwritten policy right yep which would make a point that I was arguing before irrelevant I think so where are we putting it 10-year financing 37 well no it would you can decide the short term or long term short term on a boat would be a short term this is a vehicle yeah 37 senior anything and where you can find it before we said that we didn't account for the whole you know purchase of the equipment here but that look but this is within the town's out ransom yeah because we were talking about selling the tractor I think you should be you should be consistent in the way you Truvy's you should still recognize we can't take a short term note to ourselves [Music] I thought we were but I thought we were getting a car we're getting twenty five thousand that would come in on the revenue side would be an offset and then we could just borrow 12 pounds say lit a fire Moshe stuck to the fire department [Music] who's on first land used to selling it to the fire department no I am but there but everything that if a fire marshal doesn't want the fire marshal Chuck our you know our existing fire marshal that truck was set up specifically for the prior four marshal because he was also the chief of the fire department and our fire marshal does not need an f-350 truck with the side boxes and everything it's just he can get around much easier in a smaller SUV more economical better mileage I want to know what the proper accounting is here this isn't this is internal business I think you want the gross expenditure you want to put 37 [Music] that's probably probably but let's reverse that accounting event so then it becomes a revenue on the other side 425 425 thousand because unbudgeted revenue you're not gonna put it in your budget [Music] it'll be a transferring into the general fund at the end of the year but is it gonna be like an account like that insurance account that we put the 470 out of and no is it gonna be people where is it it's gonna go if it'll be in the other fund and it'll be transferring to the general fund roll-up so it can't be touched during the course of the year now you can only go to the job no because it's unbudgeted money it's an unbuttered revenue source even if we're budgeting for it there's no certainty in what you're going to get [Music] into town so the money it's been in the co-main then it can't be touched by anybody for the course of the year and at the end of the year it goes directly to the general fund exam it only Park so we can't take that twenty five thousand and utilize it for something else along the course of a year not without approval of the Board of Selectmen or the four different names depending on the amount of money right but so that it can be used it's not an untouchable no I actually think it couldn't be used because the Board of Selectmen can only transfer money between line items within a department and this doesn't have more than one liner we can't spend them without the Board of Selectmen making the appropriation requests therefore demands that's my opinion we can't spend it if we go to the revenue tab we put in revenue anticipation it can't do it why not then it's budgeted well make it that nice but you're taking grants though what you're gonna get in this case we know what this is internal yeah we know we're getting twenty five thousand right why can't we just put it on that revenue tab that miss lane is that other miscellaneous or transferring yeah so put the phones down in there I agree with that that's what we're talking about right now Ricky insert a line please between those two I will put all the vehicles and budgeted revenue source unbudgeted revenue source [Music] this one I view as this one we know there's no written sales gonna happen but the other one I think Jim was even shaky I wouldn't call it that I have to because I have to stay consistent with the uniform chart of accounts and there's not going to be an account called vehicle transferring so I gave you two options that conform to the uniform chart of accounts you can pick one or the other we can't just make up again and make a note to the right you could put it put it in miscellaneous and then I'll create the proper account and move it over so this is this is making it transparent our bonding or our capital schedule is proper this way things going the only lost in the sauce just away energy answer from the down to the beach just so I understand who is buying the vehicle see the fire department who was buying the vehicle is buying the vehicle from the town their separate legal entity okay okay [Music] like maybe that thing I'm gonna change all those numbers okay thanks okay help department vehicle to replace the one from the 2011 17 year old vehicle the ask was 26,000 that's under 10-year bond financing I think discussion on that one did you need to go into short-term financing also you could or vein consistent with the placement of our vehicles however I think it's not exactly relevant because the intent of our deliberations does not have to be have to be consistent with what the treasurer and the first selectmen actually do okay so this is I think this is one of those days where we discuss a policy that vehicles are under short-term financing and we know it so these things actually happen under short-term note financing but for the purpose of the idea whatever do anything in short term under 10 or over 10 gets lumped into the same pot in that resolution essentially [Music] we can talk about that I guess all right fire marshal vehicle 26,000 request that was postponed by the selectmen so is ecstatic what is he driving it for taking the hill a nice view he's not driving the pickup truck at all he's driving an old beat-up piece of junk any borrows cars okay so he has some police car yeah he's got on him we have a police car that we're transferring okay I didn't credit we have building design next 22,500 that request was postponed I believe the first selectmen just wanted to get it on our radar for now any discussion on that the Assessor the office Assessor office revaluation that was for 67,500 that's in cash is there any any discussion on this one every five years we have to do a full Reve a Louisville the properties in town this is what we estimated another four years it's gonna cost like the fire apparatus any discussion on that one okay all right and our prelims are good now I'll go back up to the top and start making some discussions and decisions I take too much yes and we will take a five-minute intermission five-minute intermission starting now [Music] and we're back okay after the intermission we are ready to go through the capital budget line-by-line if there are discussions we will have them if there is a desire to move any line items around we'll take a quick a quick show of hands the majority will rule on that as per usual and Riki we should note somewhere on there what the quick votes are on these things just so we have them votes yeah all right so I'm gonna go through these if there are any if anyone wants to make a comment - to discuss a change please let me know if I don't stop on it or I'm moving too fast okay the reserved for the turf fields postponed the tennis court replacement postponed the replace the f50 truck 65,000 over 10-year bond financing the Toro Precor aerator [Music] 26550 ten-year bond financing tie-in to the septic system over a 10-year financing 65,000 the aluminum leaf and chip box 14,000 postponed twenty-five thousand for Brookfield high school crack seal on the tennis courts 25,000 cash the center school playground drainage and mulch this one we can have a discussion on it was postponed there was a comment to move it into cash for fifteen thousand any discussion on that further okay all those in favor of moving it to cash or 15,000 indicate raise your hand okay three zero it's not 3-0 I'm sorry against oh it's that true vote it's right right it's a it's a yes or nothing so I see three $15,000 items for school-related it's good to hear and the risers I'm prioritizing them rise as a first and I don't think to do all of them the mulch is a good thing I'm reading a note that says it's not a hazard more of a quality I know that recess is an important thing how much does it impact it was didn't seem as critical in the discussion we had last week so that's why I'm good okay so we have three three okay so this please move that one back to postpone and indicate three for cleaning [Music] three four this is the time where he's opinion on the matters count [Music] next hun beti Rio bin roof and trust replacement 15,000 postponed the huckleberry hill upgrade playground and border 15,000 we had this one marked for discussion I was moving or the discussion is to it from postponed to cash any discussion okay all those in favor of moving it into cash 15,000 raise your hand I did the huckleberry hill upgrade playground board yeah 15,000 into cash those in favor raise your hand okay no no I'm on three I'm on 33 okay opposed okay that's three so this one sir okay so that one again sails three four okay next one upgrade the Assessor system the postponed 20,000 okay Public Works roadside more 129,000 over 10-year financing the replace the Ford 1990 35 BK truck for 54,000 under 10 years financing [Music] replace the street sweeper 225,000 over 10-year financing any discussion there [Music] replacing the vector truck tanks it was in over 10-year financing the discussion was to postpone it as this will be an item that can be repaired for at least a year for $5,000 interoperating minions all those in favor of postponing it show of hands okay the pass is sick so we will postpone that one [Music] I mean the excavator 85,000 that one was marked as postpone okay replace the AC unit at the at the garage those thirty years old five thousand cash any discussion on that replace the year 2004 truck for twenty seven thousand under ten-year bond financing any discussion on that one [Music] replace the two heat pumps in town hall twelve thousand cash paved the roads eight hundred fifty thousand cash 650,000 bonds for a total of 1.5 [Music] but there are us to consider tipping at 800 700 did you read this question yeah thank you I proposed that we move from well no actually I'll take that discussion away that was really hinging on actually serving the needs of the the schools from parks and recs as noted above and since the board moved to not do that and my comments on this one are irrelevant [Music] take the back to entertain trucks out that was Mike [Music] money to the right potentially [Music] okay designing a new your videos at that library so all those maybe ever [Music] yeah [Music] here you know we'll leave that one place carpet at the weigh station there's a little kind of all-cash design and Indonesia news control of our although all right [Music] Hudiburg 16 when I was with $157 that's cash primary right after that was borrowing the business alone try $3 before that I was going to define the cash g'bye oh I don't think they really go on its okay you really don't wanna know [Music] and so the one that can know [Music] and talk about our money and look like the other player everybody should be able to make better decision they make it all right we have okay good then eight right man I don't have that whole amount okay no no Lucas CVD our device the request was 16 I was murdered this one and I know I look like throw it out there in cash okay all those failure or sick he's got how's my 500 cash okay I'm staying there uh okay the community 12,000 singing cat funding occasionally postponed is there any visiting any from reading - okay no we are two years okay all those in favor of moving any from [Music] all right okay 40 million figure out why or money but I think I give you a man-eating scenario you want to give you the four thousand anything Wow so some it is the other one that I see in the four words I see like the risers in accordance this I see there is a need in my very reduces to that happens but I think I have to be you can use : you don't know column G [Music] so the first nine ninety five visits out hours our F and then seven is Harbor colluded well I think if we made our choices and we want to give you the library I think you got it be a lot of that exercise those may be mad anymore all right okay boys in discussion okay that's over ten year financing we have construct outdoor restrooms food service and storage that was $100,000 that's been postponed coral risers 15,000 that was postponed I believe it's been mentioned that we'd like to add those two cash any further discussion okay all those in favor 15,000 from postponed to cash and Kate was saying aye aye okay opposed okay carries 5-1 the time and attendance system $60,000 request that's in under tenure under under ten-year financing any discussion on that okay the tech time design contingency 300,000 that's in over a 10-year financing discussion technology normal computer replacement we have here the request with sixty four hundred five thousand cash fourteen hundred postponed I would like to initiate the session to move that fourteen hundred back to cash to complete the normal computer replacement any discussion on that okay um the only discussion on states you know like my computer is an i3 processor go so slow but I can live with it for another year I don't need it you know I can live with it like I think we can talk to Tommy it's not gonna be fun but we can live with it we've got a very good point but I think we can replace our computers at a little slower rate every year yeah if we absolutely need to you know somebody could we get a laptop and plug it into a little monitor and the keyboard so I think we're we're not gonna affect our operations by slowing this down a little bit that's not as kind of money but we gotta watch every penny here any further discussion okay all those in favor of moving 1400 back to cash hi okay five upgrade Network that's in there thirteen thousand as cash discussion okay software licenses 20100 in US cash any discussion on that one safest thing to do we need to leave it as Kansas ended okay right so no we need to find out because again it goes down to an expense line I the thing again so if we can if it's fifteen thousand we can use that six thousand elsewhere take it out I mean that's far they give it take so we should know the number - but there's right by Thursday tonight's your resolution tonight will only comfort a capital I agree I'm saying for me prepare for tomorrow disapprobation even have a need that we want to have this at what I'm trying to say is this information you want to have tomorrow for tomorrow's discussion so we can make that decision tomorrow night because I don't want to wait till Thursday and then have this number consensus is leave it where it lies now yes printers 2500 requested cash two thousand postponed five hundred this one I'd like to discuss moving the 500 back to cash I think it's a penny cut the bottom line is I think that it's 2200 they gotta fight 400 bucks on their operating budget Jews are apparently already as tight and lean as possible with no room so I understand your position there's always a little I say we we've got printer and friends with that we continue to use for another year 500 back to cash ok by saying aye aye okay two four yeah okay land use the land used vehicle from 2012 they updated yes the updated request for the eight for accounting purposes 37,000 short-term financing I suppose suppose the discussion would be around moving it from ten year under ten years of short-term financing just for consistency sake so all those in favor doubling the amount from under ten year financing to short-term financing the leading the amount engrossed up for accounting purposes and came up with an offset to revenue for the twenty five thousand they gave us a night I carry six Oh long way to go no I mean for that thousand all right help department vehicle replace the 2001 vehicle BK 69 26,000 we have that under 10-year bond financing a discussion on Alan fire marshal vehicle request was for 26 this one was postponed discussion ok the building design 22,500 was the request this was postponed discussion okay the reserved for the accessory office revaluation 67,500 this was put into cash reserves any discussion Steve that's the amount that you have to put aside every year to plan for the five-year same as fire apparatus anything other game it's about four hundred and somebody find a four hundred and something so I'm a thousand dollar bill on your way as we get to that year we pick up all yeah the last year was actually the rebound year and that was for the system who keep upgrading [Music] that as they say in France is that is there anything anyone wanted to go back and read in it before so we 70 can you do just a delta there acuteness can you string that on a long pole okay so the additions to the additions to cash financing within the coral risers right let's see and then Ricky can you do you mind just making sure that that all checks out so do cash short term and 10-year [Music] just make sure we check out before so you make sure we have everything captured is you code you can go to the go to the capital funding tab the great one then there should be fairly many for check formulas in there off to the right see this f2 so you can see that sir there's a copy it and pop it over vision either that was good to make sure we're complete that's all Junior all right so that formula v Lashon 40,000 it's in a little the way that the check formula works it didn't take that one yeah him truck really have a trauma thanks the way that check works if it was a problem it would be over 40,000 anemone everything accounted for okay so we're good I think so we should have it all town for good f2 that again please before teeth out yep so if you string it all plus the 40 okay oh yeah yeah yeah a hat solid okay so we any further discussion on the capital items so if you don't mind some up please the short term note financing the under ten year and the over ten year online ninety-five more comfortable done with that one hundred thousand an issuance costs yes we're ready to make the magic happen all right all right I make a motion that the town appropriate two million four hundred seventy eight thousand fifty dollars to fund the costs of capital projects and issue its general obligations or bonds or obligation bonds or notes and temporary notes in an amount not to exceed two million four hundred seventy eight thousand eight dollars as agreed by the Board of Finance see the attached lists of projects plus debt issuance expenses in the event bond council requires modification to this motion we delegate approval authority to board of finance chairman second and discussion all right the the debt issuance costs which we will note here on this spreadsheet are approximately $100,000 that could move give or take a little bit so that's what we had in there if we require modifications in motion this is 2 4 7 8 include 200 no I think your motion shouldn't commander I'm not sure it did last you say not to exceed I'll be the last year if it's gonna be part of your long-term borrowing you have to approve it right do you recall last year did we approve the issuance cost and that's your defense a defense abadan if we're going to slowly to say add a hundred thousand so you're saying to buy the issue to five seven eight and that works in the resolution level is that what's in the resolution that that the talent well I think our bond Council is gonna say to us you approved two four seven eight and one hundred is gonna have to come from somewhere else because you authorized a specific amount and any changes right but you might you might at this age not as I said I think you're right Shawn we did that and then you were able to make the change the Board Chairman was able to make the change they add the financing cost what you add it now so what you have a firm number yeah so if you want to do this you say this is what we're doing and the Board Chairman is authorized to add up to one hundred thousand dollars if needed to the total Anansie I think we should the hundred thousand estimate yeah it's an estimate that's an S all these are estimates but I think we should note on this sheet though because this is going to be posted in a clean form obviously you should know down here finance and costs estimated at a hundred thousand to be confirmed by the bond Council and we're gonna leave it out of the amount we're gonna keep the motion on the board keep the motion on the board and on it up to the board of finance chairman to be able to appropriate the other thousand dollars not necessarily to appropriate it but to offer food to amend the motion for bond Council two to five I'm good with that that doesn't but we should make a note in here on that as well and that so next year you'll have to say discuss why and yeah yeah so that's what we're in a row here it's like here right okay yeah - I'm a chairman to add one hundred thousand baht me and my issuance cost a total to one hundred two thousand dollars to fund the costs of the town's capital expenses at town facilities for the fiscal year 2015-16 and then it lists all the individual projects at the end it says the appropriation may be spent for acquisition of materials installation subcontractor fees legal fees net interest on borrowing in other expenses and financing costs related to the project otherwise we're gonna be all those projects we're gonna be cutting will we were taking $100,000 that's what you're asking is not your resolution number number of your resolution is to include the financing cost attack I haven't seen yeah we don't know exactly in there not to exceed no no I wouldn't do that but all of these are really that's good at estimates as we can get I don't think it's might exceed $100,000 if that's what our financial advisor told us it would cost that's not Rockefeller you know we're not picking a number an emotion if we amend the motion to include 100,000 that doesn't mean that they can spend it right so it is cost of what it is right as I managed to make sure that we managed it but I don't see what the harm is if we're gonna have a true cost of near $100,000 right we don't want to get whacked and have to think of that of our general fund org or take it out of a project so city now and a hundred thousand dollars of debt issuance expenses you say that twice you need necessary my addition for a total of for a total of never right as long as you put in there for a total of two five seven eight oh five oh say that twice I'll have it on there and then if we require any material modifications to that crazy all right might as well just rescind my motion play against him all right I make a motion at the Town appropriate two million four hundred seventy eight thousand fifty dollars and one hundred thousand dollars for debt issuance expenses for a total of two million five hundred seventy eight thousand fifty dollars to fund the cost of capital projects and issue its general obligation bonds or notes and temporary notes in the amount not to exceed two million two million five hundred seventy eight thousand fifty dollars as agreed by the Board of Finance see the attached list of projects plus debt issuance expenses and the event bond council requires modification to this motion we delegate approval authority to the Board of Finance chairman okay further discussion beat this one no all right here no further discussion all those in favor of the motion on the floor indicate by saying aye okay motion carries six zero what time do we have in case something does go awry with the bomb Council tomorrow do we have a chance to know we need this I'll get this to her first thing in the morning and then she'll come back to us immediately if she's got a problem okay we have to get it there by 10:00 so Shawn and I will discuss and if we have to make any changes we'll do that and we'll notify you immediately Shawn were notified immediately we had any changes and then I just need the list as quickly as possible for the projects that are so tricky the any notes that we have our development for that exercise so you could clip from the top down to row 93 and you can clip that in to approve that can approve capital you know approve cat little tap okay bust that out and send it over to meet this this is resolution that's the most important cuz she when she has that actually saw her next item on the agenda is to discuss the town of Oakville 2018-2019 budget are there any items that we would like to discuss tonight I'd like to make sure any of us have questions they get them tonight the Steve so you can happen for tomorrow but if there's anything that any of us any you know sums up wondering at further detail right now I have IRA sent a note that I'm in dejected Microsoft licenses anything else there was the other thing this yeah for discussion we could sort this out for tomorrow yeah Steve usme a note regarding elderly tax relief yeah are you able to have for tomorrow tan the redemption rate of that rebate so we can gauge if there is any exposure over that 400 yeah the total exposure to the town 485,000 even have that six hundred and seventy thousand five hundred dollars we usually get about a hundred thousand dollars in the state and we did last year to help offset these costs for elderly and veterans relief the state has not said either way whether we're going to get that they've been totally silent on it so you can interpret that both ways we're gonna get it we're not gonna get our redemption rate has if you look at the mill rate page on the budget that's based on previous experience actually how much we've actually paid now we don't get a hundred thousand you'd have to add a hundred thousand to that right now he was at $485,000 so we'd have to to be ultimately safe at about a hundred thousand to that not everyone takes advantage of these programs that's eligible that's fine it is what it is but it's been pretty steady if you look at each year it's been pretty steady so I'm gonna try to find out um I put a note in to Steve Harding the Craig miner where do you think this is gonna end up you know we're gonna get the hundred thousand or not cuz that's a lot of money I think what he's gonna do is come back say Steve I don't know but we're asking the question anyway so the elderly tax relief is a number that's presented net right right that's not something we have to present gross I know no no it's just the amount of money we get back for residents as tax relief on their properties all right so hopefully we can have an answer back on that in the next couple days yeah it well the answer may be so insane I'm telling you right now all right we got to make a determination much as the grants from the budget summary the governor's budget yeah I think us getting nothing for ECS then that was the old that was his first original so he's revised that numerous times do the numbers that Steve is and Kimberly have put in are the actual approved budget numbers so the numbers that are in our and Steve and Kimberly's assembly of the revenues are the numbers since the approved budget Malloy has put out his thoughts on how to deal with the deficits and his his is what I've taken off is his latest box on how to handle it so in fairness to our budget it is the true budgeted numbers on the bottom side animal was already saying he wants to make changes and reduced by a little now in the past two years ago there was $165,000 cut to the ECS grant after we were promised the Board of Ed has absorbed that 165 two years ago last year we took another $140,000 off of what was promised to us in budget so each year what we've been promised for the last two years we have received less and it wasn't like we were notified they just notified us a month before two years ago that you're just not getting the 165 so what we've done in the past two budget cycles and I was only involved in one is we've taken the promised money and reduced it in our own budget so this is the first year we're actually taking the promised money in three years of living with the promise money as it states now now I'm not talking about us without much how it is I mean this is the actual budget right for the last tooth fire by the last tube right prior budget years it was like 1.47 promised to us we only put in 1.37 last year were promised like 120 something we put in 1.1 so I'm saying as a general rule the last two years we dropped that revenue number by a hundred fifty thousand and this year below is already projecting that in his notes gotta be true who knows who knows I had a pretty lengthy conversation with Steve Harding about this and he said Malloy's numbers are not gonna fly with legislature does he think there may be some slight cuts maybe it's hard to say somewhere between Malloy and the legislative budget is where the number is probably gonna end up right I had a long conversation yeah pretty much is now he's pretty much my thing is though that we said this prior year was a million for the zero was a big gap we weren't gonna lose everything now you're talking a million two down to a million is that really a big gap that can't be stretched I think that people have an easier way of going along with a 1 million that cause the deficit instead of the one - I think it's not as drastic as going from a million for I think it's gotta be something be considered to do not take that it did I miss that the special education grant are we not getting that's a whole thing they went back to the old formula the old formulas based on students and it's in the thing they've calculated that out very well so it's a matter of dollars spent students so they figured out - the amount of the formula I'm sure Ken did and I'm sure his numbers are pretty close that doesn't mean that numbers solid either because depending on the money spent is it's it's a moving number as their best guess how they they could do any better you know I'm not gues governor malloy wanted to get away from the EECS grant which is formulaic yeah he just wanted to give cut that out completely and just okay I'm gonna give you 500,000 yes now the Democrats there's a migraine you wanted to get away from UCS because it's got formula right right he can't change that formula so he said no we're not gonna do me see us anymore we're gonna do special education grant which means it's just a number that's picked by his team that didn't play that was supposed to be nine hundred thousand four lakh - yeah so what they did is they revert it back to the old way yeah and that's a number we know how to calculate and again it's not a solid number and the board of that can't be held to a solid number on that it's the best guest on expenses the only other revenue lines we need to look at again we talked about worthy investment pooled cash is where it likes 65,000 year-to-date we only budgeted 25,000 so I think we can raise that number up from 25,000 to a little higher for 65,000 year-to-date 52,000 prior year so I think if you're looking at revenue top you know yeah I think you know you're looking at about 110 112 thousand if we go with the current rate so I think you could put in 100 to 105 and probably be pretty safe interest rates are rising I don't see them going down they're not drastically moving but if we've got 65 already divided by 7 months I think you could put you can go down okay so I'd be comfortable with a number of I'm sorry I said I'd be okay with a little bit less than a hundred MPC I just need I'm not comfortable in 25 I think we should reap the benefits of my great the higher number three think 90 I think let everybody else decide but I'm right you know here today Brad why she's alive Alex to it that number being as low as $29 yes I don't think they're gonna go down I don't think they gotta rise so I'd rather see okay which in your professional estimation would be 90,000 a gene or $1 they sometimes well senex it becomes 106,000 yeah I [Music] 111 thousand if we're gonna just kind of do a prorogation recording estimate getting a lot of 111,000 if you were to just take those 7.4 figure started out there have it I would like to see us go to 75 how's that and just follow it we now recognize it as a deficiency it's another number that we can understand better next year and we can adjust it again next year we're gonna go up on it in the line and up by $50,000 almost right it's a percentage we increase it now and that gives us a little leeway on it I'm comfortable at this 75 then we look at it next year I'm good further discussion pull the cash okay hearing none all those in favor of increasing the budget for pooled cash investment income indicate by saying aye I carry six up might as well start the top that if you want to do it and just get it done we're here and then we'll call it a night after ever all right up to the top okay current taxes that's I don't want to use the P word so we'll just say current taxes are a function of the movements that we make on other revenues and the expenses okay the Board of Finance impact there as you see it was due to an update in a formula error that was in the file that we were getting so I took that out we were double counting something okay so then the number the real number is 63 588 as of the time that I sent this file yes however Ricky can you go back to the mill right tab please now the concept of a balanced budget means that total expenditures will match total revenues okay so right now I would bet that they don't so go to column M okay so you have total expenditures of sixty seven six one one one sixty-two now scroll down to total revenues sixty seven sixty seven one six - no they don't know so seven strongly it's late 67 67 all that oh sorry Lucy it's almost time Harry okay all right good so what that means is we have expenditures that are now less than our revenues which means that we would have the benefit of reducing the current property taxes by 50k okay so we can do it on a one-for-one every time we make a change let's say when we're done with revenue we can go ahead and make that change so you could Ricky if you wanted to go back to that revenue tab and then you could do the BLF review you could take out you can subtract 50,000 from there and it's got to be 50,000 as a whole you can go over there and do it good in that be laughter you do - 50 Shane get the exact no thank you thank you thanks exactly 50 so you can you can reduce the the the current taxes by 56,000 then if you flip back to the other tab you'll see that change carried through and as of this moment in time kind of 31 tonight we have a balanced budget that's how that works there so should I just put a formula in there so that it always bounces for not now you cannot give this later goodbye slowly nice surprise your taxes I believe are a function of what we got from Roberta yeah so shits did pretty good those really bet those supplemental taxes it's a vehicle taxes and whatnot you know any discussion on those two why'd they go down so much because people with the advent of the change in the tax laws thought they would get a big advantage I'm pre paying taxes so people that we fumbled up some taxes as long as you got a result the explanation they just shifty put one year to the other next year he'll go back up I think it'll be more even there's a bit before three to five thirty five so we just interesting lean piece you can you can delete that note I just wanted that there for us to see any discussions on that or the telephone access for forty eight six oh six okay [Music] the moment you've all been waiting for now the intergovernmental education cost sharing part of the past past budget we have education cost sharing revenue 1 million 144,000 $183 discussion and hill I'd like to see this boost to Malloy's numbers you take the difference other contingency boy was almost let's call it the nine nine nine nine hundred ninety nine thousand that's the flat was yeah that was just I could get the exact mom's ricotta for tomorrow but that's just my proposals to move the relative down and no we're moving out of the contingency fund so that's zero under yeah if we get the revenue it just relative if we're gonna move the moon wise number we should also then on a low set move to the 190 we got a couple weeks ago yeah up sixty thousand agree I'm saying move to that move down the move on what we got the Liz data move down on the other two that we got different data in the Delta we take are the contingency fund okay this is mine completely agree thought process it just tightens things up a little bit if you get the revenue and we're happily surprised we would agree happily surprised right but then we could build a budget based off of that that that's the most sound run I think right we won't get bit by his very small but if we were told by a member of a legislature that his number is not reasonable would you really want to be that conservative you didn't want to meet in the middle I'd be open for a discussion after we run through the numbers but I think that if we use it as a guideline I'd like I just have sat here and you said here that we lost like I say to 169 that we were promised we're gonna get it and it didn't come and then last year we thought we were gonna get it and the numbers changed on us at the end I think if you have budget - less revenue we can make that discussion if we really need to add expenditures we can look to to move that number a little but to start the discussions how's that and use it as a guideline yeah so after there has a deadline we're not you know they can go back as you if we see we need to you want to leave an even million there's a matter that's fine and that's something we've done the last few times anyway we've dropped that ribbon to the last two budgets to be conservative and it's worked in our favor then two years or two budget cycles feeding it back right - we do two budget cycles in a row now hasn't been because I'm not so sure that I know it's silence with that road fund money I'm not so sure what he's doing with that either because I wrote fun he's been good about it because it's a hot point for voters I agree but he's been walked at something they could see right I don't think he will he's been waffling out of the little bit all right the next item on the list adult education Town Road aid it was there anything was there anything on that road II know that was bright he's got that overlay okay Louis it grant who the lady to is 192 three upper 190 it raised it hard to be but that's also for me okay yeah for the sake of transparency I had reverted it back to what the board's like my head reviewed sup because I'm a change now you anything to 72 number and I do have that I think that number also this will be sharing credit is that's it let's go out away that's a zero where is it at there were twenty seven hundred eighteen thousand you just finest enlightenment no that's a different that's not the additional revenue sharing that's a time the sales tax shares the municipal resident zero this one here one eighteen that's still a good number three proposal he didn't change his memory he changed the I think the municipal stabilization brand outward did he move deep down he went down to like 120 years I'm okay if you moving to 150 if you wanted to down 200,000 yeah but again now if we take that what we've done there on a revenue side if you take that you take that the Delta from the 67 and 120 whatever it would sit without 198 centers total they've you've met changed if you took that other contingency what happens that gives us a contingency of 200 mm which I know we raised it the past two years but prior to that it was 40 50 thousand you still have your personal contingent secret of the union labor discussions so really we have a $250,000 contingency fund which I'm comfortable with 90 so I think then it was sort of net out and reduce some funds circuito of the expenditures tab and that contingency you could put the DOF approve that general contingency you have so over that 400,000 you could take out one I hate it it not to be yeah I'm good with that you just smooth it out yesterday so what does that do to the mill rate page yeah that's just wanted to make sure you go up look at this my didn't see make sure that that all carried through I know so I think native or before it was a 1.8 yeah oh so I was one one five eight now it's one point five five so right I didn't move anything so we did was just so there's no more counselors nurses side yeah do some risk oh yeah that's off took out some risk and remove anything so what you wanna lack surrounding yeah we can actually you better probably what was that the revenue side of you maybe did we double-check the town clerk revenue yep 456 will be double check that vetted it again I gave a sheet land use the same thing has be conservative they're the police that's pretty consistent that's where they think they're gonna be and Fire Marshal we look at those numbers too so if we're talking this year's sound revenue right what are we period seven here today was 364 right so we would be at 550 if we were running at the current rate Jim and we got in here for 450 or if it looks a sec so it's a hundred thousand less than our current burn rate on that Rabbinate yeah but we've had a couple big projects come through you did yeah I'm gonna trust my staff to say this is where we think we're gonna be next year you know we had the Enclave come through parts of Brookfield village came through these are big big fees individual fees okay you know we may get surprised next year no no no if you've got that feeling on it rather be on the conservative side Pat okay so the same thing with the Oh yep very comfortable I don't think I have any more to add on the revenue side then I think that's a good starting point you go down so the revenue increased by 74 theft we get an SME we added it 50 when you say edited 75 and another 25,000 can you nuance or current formula laughter oh I forgot the car that's not factoring in that factor okay oh yeah can you carry that formula through the or carry it down so we see at the individual on it row 47 all right Oh all right so you increase revenue where can can you up where they increase come from so we have 46 and 25 40 citizens silicosis sixteen what the Llosa give us plus whatever this 201 is staying back into yeah we shouldn't have it happenss we increase taxes I don't think the peak all that 201 over yeah balanced budget we well everything everything else is gonna change the final one yep so we're then tolerate it again where are we rather dude but need to expense now so we have total revenues of 34 percent assassinate the right one tonight so revenues appeared about 67 - that 67 thirty-six which was the net of everything I did before right that doesn't so it makes sense doesn't make sense maybe because you got this 257 already baked in here oh you left it there I think you took out no no I left it in here and just add the 56 data we white our [Music] we have to add the 257 because before we're double counting the interest of levy you if you were to if you blow that out all the way hmm ooh to blow out current taxes all right let me get rid of it well blast that out yeah do that so then all right happy if you go back to the nori tab if you run your calculation again revenues minus expenses the changes to asset so then through all of our changes I think this one I should spreadsheet magic works but that would be it you have all you other revenues we have all our expenditures so that's how you please the dirty word that's the plug that's what falls in so it has to pass to D it it has to be okay that's your so we're up 74,000 yeah I mean it's it's 10:47 and I Looney here that's that's the way the floor that's the way it works all right would you do the math all right you have all your expenditures you have all your other revenues you take away or you subtract all of your other revenues from your expenses and that's your taxes right that's right that's the way it works all right that's the way it works all right so we have a good starting point wouldn't have to go to any of these but yeah it looks like we're up so I have done humility acquired that [Music] sixty-four good hell of it yeah okay five four eight nine forty but it ain't John Oh this is where children wish you last year this technology was the discussion all right we're good there tonight anyway yeah we're good for tonight they make a motion picture before we do that an email did come in a resident did raise a concern it was senses were defiance in the Borah slacker with that it the levels of mulch and sand on the playground are below guidelines and it represents a safety concern what I would like folks to consider is the one colette is that does that make sense that if our mulch and sand are below the acceptable levels that presents a safety concern and then electic might have to consider doing something about that if you can validate that as a safety concern if those levels are below yes boxing record look at that a little not really caring about his opinion right now but if it's a safety concern and that was missed by parking racks but it was brought up today by someone who's taking a fresh look at it oh he's that though okay it's something that we will need to address it as a safety concern cannot in good conscience so to find that summer but I would like to see this find as instead of an atom yeah just I don't know that's just my opinion do whatever I mean we had a good conscious I agree safety don't get me wrong but I think that in 43 million dollars on one side 17 or 18 million on another I think I'd like to see it be if if we're adding it and it's makes it a priority I think this room of elsewhere to make it work and I understand the revenue we we found extra revenue I get that but I'd really like to see us drop down if possible on the tax rate yeah if we're gonna add in we make the hard decisions to add it in and that might be 2000 here and thousand there 500 there 1,700 here and net it out the reason why I'm voting against adding it and I had nothing to do with him how it was because a qualified person of Parks and Rec this came in front of us and stated that it was nice to have it wasn't it wasn't exactly a need it was a woman of the exact words but he said it wasn't a safety hazard he said it was that it was you know so that's if if somebody is a qualified person a qualified members of Parks and Rec comes to us and tells us it's not that big of a need I mean that's we'll check it you know adding some mulch let's say it needs to be 1/8 inches second that's at 7 any some mulch is not gonna be that expensive yeah no no we missed the point is advantage there is a we had to build a retaining wall basically to contain the mulch because of the water every time you put down the mulch the water watches the mulch away replace the process was the proactive fix of containing them all so this doesn't happen on an annual basis or a rainstorm basis it was to make it where it the fix was as permanent as it could be eternal I have this there's snow on the ground there's snow on this field there's snow on this playground I think it would be very hard for an individual to determine that there wasn't enough mulch there so I'll have Parks and Rec jacket and if it is below standard and what's required we'll put more mulch down now that's not gonna fix the problem it's a temporary solution which we've been using for years can you please validate that it is a safety concern the leader said is it a safety concern or is it just somewhere it doesn't meet guidelines our guidance but in our safety concerns because the weather is getting warmer okay to go out and play how big of an issue is this right now there absolutely are standards for how much mulch you have or rubber or whatever you're using there are set standards for every playground we'll check it you can actually be an issue as well but yes is this something that you could look into addressing in the current year she doesn't do that Parks and Rec yes I know it's a partner X issue so you would look at me and say I'd like to make motion to adjourn second all those in favor [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]
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[Music] okay welcome everyone today is Tuesday March 20th this is a special meeting of the Brookfield Board of Finance I call this meeting to order to stand and join me from pledge allegiance pledge allegiance to the fire of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation okay first item on the agenda is public comment no members of the public here with us there's no public comment le'me illegal to do business and that is 2018-19 an open field budget workshop discussion essentially a continuation of what we were talking about last night does anyone want to go through a recap of what we did last night or would we like to move it along so we could tackle to tackle the big one so as we all know the biggest item on our budget is school operations and right now we have a proposed budget from the Board of Selectmen forty three to forty three million twenty two thousand one hundred fifty one dollars for an 1819 year before full we dive into details any high level general comments on that if not we can just start right up so that is about $180,000 lighter than the Board of Education and as Steve excessive did explain the Board of Selectmen is thinking on that so now we will begin our deliberations I would say from from that standpoint I have some thoughts does anyone like to share theirs before I get mine do you want it did you want to discuss the contingency and the additional funding that we gave to schools we can yet we can do that I thought more about the note that you had sent me and I have a concern about restating numbers it's more so Steve had sent me a question on if we wanted to restate some of the board the numbers to account for what was given to them through contingency funding does anyone have any thoughts on that it's not it's not exactly what was appropriated to them it has her the last budget but it would represent I think more of a management and view at this point were those numbers included in collects presentation the Board of Education included one hundred and twenty seven hundred twenty thousand seven hundred and twenty seven in their baseline right one hundred twenty thousand more than this number and their thinking was that excuse me that money that was appropriate as part of this year's budget Rhonda we did that last year additionally there's four hundred and seventy thousand five hundred that we had to give them for special ed you know even after they made all their changes so their opinion is that changes their baseline for this year's budget they're the only thing that does has changed percentages and increases but for some people that's important oh it less than the percentage increase right so we have one person that was there your honor is there a reason why that wasn't included because they did their budget well before we gave him the 470 but in your draft though yeah of this that you sent to us I didn't consider it and we literally should have but I would want to have a discussion with you because if we start changing their last year's numbers it gets to be and that's certainly if for review purposes I think it's a good thing to do but for actual documentation I think mission I think we should leave it where it is I don't know it's a tougher any opening comments on that I mean technically it was it was budgeted for as part of the town budget as part of that in 702 of the money that was used I'm not certain about reallocating to their visit is it possible to just add a column to show that money that was you know the special in crashing it's a document to show on here that there was already you know what I'm thinking more for the taxpayers to view it later we can do that in the presentation layout for the purposes of this yeah I'm not certain that that would be an actual Restatement of their budget yeah anybody have a definitive thought on that my thought is only that if we change it and it lessens the percentage are we really given the true picture to the taxpayers I mean Joe then Joanne sit there and only go out to vote on budgets and they see well on the Board of Ed increases only two percent they're not realizing that it's really a six percent jump from prior year is that fair to them because most of the people that watch us that read us know the numbers so whether we play the semantics or not the semantics or the the right wrong and different and however you want to word it it's the Joe and the Joanne and say oh it's only 2% and they go to vote it then they realize when my taxes went up six percent in the long run how you handle it right now they're gonna look at 2% and their bill is gonna go up five right in your point but their actual budget this year is higher by five hundred ninety thousand dollars what is my increase of the tax what is the mill rate increase gonna be because that was already the money that was appropriated was already factored in via that 702 so you're saying I raise all those numbers so we're gonna really only raise the budget two percent because it was again it was already factored in on the bottom line and we're making it that jump now so I'm not certain that we would restate 17:18 the change would only be the one at 1.3 percent difference take it as a percentage of their budget 600,000 out of 420 is one in 1 point about percent that's another den significant III like fine furs I first of all the question is there a regulation or a rule that says you can or cannot adjust what you're presenting from a previous approved budget I would think that there's a rule against that I don't I hope but I would think I'm checking that I'm meeting with our town lawyer tomorrow my guess is Stan you're right I'm not I'm not sure we can change this right in our official doctor I don't think you should I I would I would expect that to be the case for presentation purposes and when we go to come meeting I think Eileen's idea and it's kind of what the board event did is the right way to talk about it because that's what happened here's what was approved here's what had to be added for increased expenses that were anticipated here is and here's the new budget and people can make their conclusions based upon that those are those are the facts the but I thought the Board of Ed and collected a perfect job when she described it to us for the purposes of the exercise this exercise that one look at for trying to gauge what the tax increase is it's gonna be the way we have it now that's yes yet that's how you get that gauge yes still enjoying that's what I'm saying those are the the ones who watch us know the story the ones who actually watch this and watch the bored of it know the story dan said Colette said it they know the story it's the other people out there that are just voting on numbers of what they think they can afford those are the people that make those in the morning what some stake are shot people it's hard to understand the budget if you're not really into it they look at what percentage increase are you giving me this is what I'm saying that's why I think we stick to the true number and that's just my opinion I mean just making notes for my presentation okay um all right then if everyone is in agreement I'd like to roll forward I mean it's an excellent point to consider I'm not saying it's a bad point for knocking that point but for the purposes of this exercise I think we should roll forward with with this presentation because at the bottom line it is what it is and we would just be moving from that contingency line essentially into the Board of Ed line but that could get a little murky I'd rather not do that because this is what the town approved last year right and it would be an increase that when I'm really thinking about it but let's roll through this thought we found the 470 in account that we don't have anymore so the taxpayer really didn't take the hit in the increase so this increase is real the mill rate increase is going to be real regardless if we change the base number of the Board of Ed the bottom line is the 470 was out of a pocket of revenue that we do not have this year to go back to right it was but that we put that aside in a prior budget too for the possibility of having all those medical expenses hit and it was the fact that of those two expenses didn't hit so the folks in town already footed the bill in a prior period but it was a benefit that we could take legally this way but I'm talking here on your increase if nobody you won't see that 470 in here you'll see the increase of a higher percentage right I think we're I think we're on the same page okay so on the subject of discussing the school operations but I did have some exciting discussions today felt like I spend more time on the job I don't get paid for what I did hope no one listened but yeah I know but yeah I did have some exciting conversations with Colette and Glen you know I think everyone did a lot of homework on this I mentioned before that the Board of Selectmen did pass a budget cut of a hundred eighty thousand okay and I think we found some ways and these have to be verified a hundred percent by Board of Ed Council we should get that tomorrow but we do have some legal ways to lessen the impact of those cuts without necessarily adding back that full cut into so there's there's two things okay the first there is a Connecticut statute I believe we've exercised it in the past where the Board of Ed can request of the finance up to 1% of their budget to set that aside essentially on the balance sheet as an make sure I have my words right here as an unexpected education funds account we know for a review of the kafir' last week that the Board of Ed does have an under run about seventy nine thousand dollars so it's well within their right to request to the Board of Finance to set that aside for use in subsequent budget periods to offset expenses okay so that's seventy nine thousand and change I'll just use round numbers so we have one eighty and then we have seventy nine let's say that they could use and then through a lot of due diligence and I thank you for this Glenn we provided some guidance to a Board of Ed and they were able to find including interest sixteen thousand dollars of money that was in a fund that didn't belong in that fund so the thought is they can move that out to cover other expenditures in the 1819 budget okay so that's another sixteen so 180 - make sure I have all my facts here straight the 180 - the 79 - the sixteen okay brings it down to about eighty five thousand okay of 85,000 out of that $180,000 cut would remain I'll say as an unfunded request to the board of that and those are legitimate and I believe legal ways of lessening the burden of that cut Colette has committed to working with their counsel mr.
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Murphy to get a firm answer on that for us tomorrow so in the event that we don't have meeting tomorrow due to weather we will have hard answers and determinations to go on for when we pick up on Thursday we'll know exactly where these scenarios lie and I'll say the legality with budgets of actually utilizing those to cover the kind that will make sense does explain I can accept that I can accept that from the point of view I think the last two years the Board of Ed cuts have been or savings have been forced more than managed due to the budget constraints that have happened as you know I always think in 43 million dollars there's always some shake out of a budget and I still stand by that a hundred percent that I think there's always some shake on a budget but I think in prior years within the town the board of it has always been forced to add in little bits of money to cover expenses that they don't foresee because the typical way and it's worked is they've gone to the board a finance the board of finances said no and the process is broken down a little bit I'd like to see if we go this route that we don't we consider not adding in that eighty six thousand dollars and we let the system work to cover that in other words the system is if the Board of Ed has an unexpected expense they go to the board of selectmen ask for an appropriation just like we did with the special ed money the Board of Selectmen reviews it they come to the Board of Finance the Board of Finance then approves it I think that if we start the process slowly we can get these budgets down to a much leaner budget get rid of some of these pockets of safety which they were forced to build in I'm not saying they built them in they were first in the past the building these pockets of safety because in the past they go to the Board of Finance the first thing would be no before the word even came out of the mouth I think that the boards and last year's board was good I'm not going to say they were good about it to us I think we need to start building the trust amongst the boards and allowing the system to work instead of building bigger budgets to cover these deficiencies I think that if we use and use a contingency fund like Sean said we use some of the Student Activity money and we say the $80,000 you've tried to manage it on your side as in a forty-three million dollar budget I think there's some room for $80,000 and if something were to come up we would go through the process let the process work we order c4 right they go to Steve at the Board of Selectmen Steve sue and Harry vote on the merit of what they think is a good expense I don't think the Board of Ed is that it had a safety net as what I'm trying to say I don't think they've ever had it so they've been forced into these positions of padding a little bit here and there I agree with you and we have two things one this is less than one-quarter of 1% 85,000 remember we're gonna have teacher turnover and then choose the okay let's not assume any savings given the possibilities of what could potentially happen I mean it was just a teacher retires at 95,000 and we hire one at 65,000 every year in fairness every year I would follow on that and in fairness every year Steve's right it might not be the 300 thousand or 40,000 this year but prior year was a hundred and some thousand prior year before that was three hundred thousand we might be in a law of where it might not be as much you know that that is going on it is usually there is but I'll say and let the system work what's my only concern is I don't that 85,000 - follow me have them look and say okay we can't hire that extra e ll teacher that we had in her proposal if you can't you know that's my concern about sure you're having an underfunded request the dude seemed like they weren't asking for much extra beyond and I understand the you know finding some savings but I just want to keep that Steve can you remind us and everybody the rationale for that where that was outlined by lion custody came up with the 180 or was it knows it just up but no it was we looked at we thought you know we have little pockets and our goal was and this was not unanimous Harry and I both believe budget to get this increase under 5% because remember at the end of the day we got to get the residents to vote for it and if this budget does not get passed we're being immoral to hurt I mean we're gonna have to be pushing and shoving to get a budget that people can pass and do it very very quickly otherwise we're gonna lose another summer of construction at the schools usually and we need some we need this construction to be done he lost one summer not last year a year before because we had to push back the date for the referendum to get him on the same day so I want to give the schools every penny that they need for their kids but historically if you look back ten years every year they've had teacher turnover people retired they have five hundred some-odd employees most of them teachers and a certain amount retire and usually we don't have to pay they've been here thirty years in making the top salary and last year they used a lot of that over job on hiring highly qualified people at higher salaries but I think that there would be money there I'd be shocked that there wasn't and then there's a to Glenn's point if we get to the point where we're really hard hit were their market or let's say no teachers retired and they really need that eighty five thousand they can come to us and we have proven true to our word if you come to us we will pay you on the health insurance for the hundred and twenty thousand we said take it out of your budget you have an overage will fund it and we do so we're building that level of trust right I'll speak well yet before I apologizes we're looking at less than a half a percent so think about that hon a hundred thousand dollar salary what's that five hundred bucks that you need to find in your budget yeah it's not a lot I think they can find it and I think it's the start of getting the trust and taking out some of these pockets and getting to a leaner but I don't think that half a percent is going to be catastrophic to losing positions I really believe in my heart that they can in my heart I didn't maybe I'm wrong that they could find a way to find that kind of money if we help them out with a hundred thousand on the top site which we weren't committing to do and then we start to build this trust and the contingency fund which Shaun has thought about putting forward if they have the savings on the salary and Ricky you're saying we don't if they do say that we don't know if that's you know we're gonna hopefully build up enough trust with this contingency can roll forward for the next year and instead of this money being just absorbed and done and the old use it or lose it mentality because that's what they're forced into unfortunately and it's a use-it-or-lose-it type of matter wrong mentality maybe but I'm saying the mentalities if they can foresee it and then they could manage their funds better going forward it might help us all out in the long run so I'm gonna I'm not I'm not sure which way I'm leaning then I'd have to point out a fact that's in the transmittal letter or the the letter to the front of our budget book pointing out the source of the increase of that of the increases where most of the increases for the special to the budget were due to special ed or staff or status quo increases the through club pays the net cost of new enhancements to the school budget was ninety three thousand seven hundred seventy five dollars so by doing what we're suggesting we're slicing out every enhancement that was proposed and sticking with the status quo budget essentially what he's also sangs this status quo included pockets of C I know I understand that if you listen to the last board event meaning which I know you did they were talking about very the last hundred thousand eighty thousand was not critical matter okay I won't mention it here but if you watch that deliberation the last eighty thousand was not oh my god the skys falling it was another it was a management decision it wasn't a program cut it wasn't an initiative cut it was not a new fund cut it was a pocket that maybe could be more efficient and you listen to them the meeting as well yeah so and that was a hundred thousand dollars so I still think and I hear what you're saying in 93 but I still just even based on watching their meetings and listening it wasn't like oh my god we're gonna lose an e ll teacher we're gonna lose a program we're gonna lose anything it was still something that was achievable without in my opinion and and without devastation because they weren't that was four to three day voted right it was a four to three split vote on the last hundred thousand on the board so three of the members were choosing to cut the hundred thousand and four chose not to there was remember you know when the school year is over that's when teachers retire that gives them three months to hire new teachers they don't know what their actual costs are going to be they usually can hire the teachers pretty quickly occasionally they have a problem but they'll know before the school year starts so it's all like we're cutting something out that can't be put back in it of every expense in the school budget I would hate to see them scrimp on hiring a good teacher who doesn't salary yeah I'd hate that the worst thing though is we put forward a budget that gets voted down we have to balance these things it's not easy I dream it's not easy I don't think they skimmed in so we know they know the numbers they're the right teachers even if it's one for one that's the right person hiring and they know how to do that and they know what they're doing and I don't have those skill sets but if you look over the last ten years they've always had money left because there are teachers your standard English teacher do you need iron somebody with 30 years experience they make the determination which is somebody good at Aniak school from Yukon and they just historically they've had money left yeah so this $79,000 school contingency or whatever that were finding out if they can roll into next year as another spend so them jumping ahead to next year's budget you know this Student Activity fee the sixteen thousand is at one time savings like the sick of them the money that was appropriated for the special ed and then this is seventy nine thousand potentially is at one time savings also especially for expecting the budget we may not expect that type of rollover to be available for the five years so just considering moving forward that maybe next year we end up seeing these numbers but it there's a a very small increase here yeah every will have the big special hope but you also have the chance of the teachers retiring into savings I'm the salary man like Steve said that we could roll into so again the salary savings should have real no effect on a budget that to me should actually come back to the town or be rolled forward into this contingency because you're basing your budget on expenditures and if you save two hundred thousand on salaries that's not a savings or a management thing that's just money to fell into your lap fiction and if we're saying your role you might see these salaries come in this year and roll that forward now back to the Student Activity account I still believe there's another twenty thousand in there if not 40,000 and Colette's checking on it but I looked up the true definition of what's supposed to be in a Student Activity fund it's not a lot that we have in there the finds of the library books not supposed to be in there that's eight thousand the fines on textbooks or another ten thousand there's another twenty thousand in there that by definition by the way I read the state statute do not belong in there the the security monitor by definition of the state statute does not belong in the Student Activity account now that's my interpretation we need legal interpretation I can see Shawn saying that but this this the statue says it should be for the lunch money which is a different account which is not Tao money so everybody realized that's parent money it should be for student ed and club money that's what the student a fun and we have like I say it counts for fines for textbooks accounts for lost library books game ticket athletic ticket sales there's another 30 to 40 and we still have that other crossover that we got to figure out I know collect in the board event or work in our nada I'm not this is not a put-down but they answer your question I think there's more money in this account that we're gonna see next year and I think as we get better at budgets and we tighten them up and we take this salary move these contingencies forward it's easier to fund everything it's a it's a straighter line item a straighter way to see it and we're looking at a big increase this year all around I think we've gone a long way towards getting much more open and transparent budgets and when people see transparent budgets they look at them and say ok that's the right number I should vote yes if they think there's shenanigans going on they go I'm not sure right I think we're getting we're getting there much when you a great like it's getting better much better so all right Shawn you're turning away and you said no I mean I I set the thing down in the 85 that's my boat that's my thoughts on how to make up a lot of this difference in the cotton and like I said tomorrow now as soon as I get word from Colette that their counsel says yes these are go ahead these are the right things to do that I'll share that with everyone how does that get does that get thrown into some sort of breath you bucket and then as an expense its money they already have it's already there they were just transferred from one life to another they take it out of here yeah and it's not any money that's doing activity - going it's not club money it's not like the the Chess Club increasing the school budget all right that stays the same down 180k but then they have this other source of funds but they can also utilize so the board is not on paper or not increasing the Board of Selectmen reduce their budget by 180 Shaun has found seventy nine thousand on that one eighty within their current funding apparatus the Student Activity account and other funds so we're really talking about cutting their budget from what they requested by eighty five thousand out of 43 million that's less than one quarter of one percent but the mechanics are such that the proposed operations would remain and there's other there's other funding that would be illegal for them to use but that's a carryover yeah just like they look at it here's our revenue from the town here's our cue from this grant here's our revenue from that grant because they do get Medicaid all those things that they get this would just be a transfer from we're taking it from this account and putting it in our general operating budget and because of the way we set up our books correct me if I'm wrong they're tracking revenues now than the muni system so this won't be like it has been in the past this will be a transfer to align a visible line item yes we're gonna see this next year we'll see so you know we talked about them being we speak of them being able to come to us that they do have a contingency item do we have our contingency boats awareness to be I'm just thinking of the the line items that contingency things that we've been asked for this year outside of the school budget and you know if we're going in with the idea that they they have they can trust us to provide that are we okay on that contingency line we talked last night if the state cuts us the total cut difficult if it goes the Malloys which the party has said he doesn't believe it well and it never has before there's about 200,000 that leaves us another 200,000 in contingency came--it 702 is where we started with this year and right now we're down at 200,000 and that didn't go it didn't all go to the schools I mean no it didn't so I'm just I'm what we anticipated other be thinking ahead dissipated other amounts of we were gonna get larger cuts in the grants said I would anticipate it that's why we brought it down to 400,000 because we know we brought it down to our last night that's what we asked talking about yeah so yes that route the contingency last night well we did it move it we didn't vote on it we just moved it as a placeholder yeah so I'm just looking at that supposed to offset write you off said that we took the revenue down with offset zero now I mean we don't know what the governor's gonna do right for what the Legislature's gonna move on for that so we could we could put another 50 into that contingency to account for any bogeys on that side I don't think that would be out of the realm of possibility to do there would be let's say 250 thousand in that contingents of them instead of just 200 thousand I'm just looking at our what our contingency fund got hit with this year and we had the fire and ambulance repair we had Medicare supplement insurance coverage which we have talked about and it sounds like we tried a budget that appropriately every year but because there are factors out of our control we don't always know if it's not a solid number we can work with so just I mean in the years that we had a $50,000 contingency where did that did you just not get hit with those types of things or where did that come from Bridgette it's very hard to say okay I believe that we did get hit with those sorts of things but since we're more in closing our books at the end of the year and we got our general fund down 3.3 million okay or we lost the cells was probably I don't we don't know I also can't say either way what they did but they're pretty clear if you look at most towns in Connecticut that are very well rated and do very well they have a pretty healthy contingency because you know you can't account for every possible future outcome right and we don't want to issue a supplemental tax bill and we don't want to hit our general fund the net of it is if you don't use your contingency fund it rolls into your gen upon unassigned general fund rate which we're trying to build up to ten percent plus so that's a plus plus you got protection against issuing supplemental tax bills or hitting your general fund and if at the end of the year you don't use it it rolls into your general fund now I wouldn't recommend a million dollar contingency fund you know if we wanted to build up our general fund they can make an appropriation transfer to general fund but this protects you up either way it protects you I mean like that last night we underestimated like the ECS grand you know maybe consider moving that down so that were you know for being conservative on the revenue side that protects us it it protects you but it also human nature gives you a a safety net and cushion that if you don't have your debt you're you're operating leaner and you have you're looking for other avenues rather than oh yeah sure I got this to 150 thousand dollars thanks that's lucky money and a credit card side but I could be open to fifty thousand for the fact of we went from seven then we're working more on it I could be open to the fifty thousand under the understanding of the again I read state statutes today and I'm dangerous I admit and I could be wrong so my understanding of the contingency fund is that cannot be moved I must the Board of Finance approves it so if Steve can't just say oh we're going to take this money out of the contingency fund he has to come to us and I do think that we have a fair makeup of people on here I mean we've had myth boats that we split so I'm pretty open to that we can make our decision so I say we've had enough split votes on this board where I feel that we can come to a conclusion that would probably work so I'm not up for 300,000 but I could sure be in for 250 as a compromise but I don't want to use it as a credit card I want to I'm so like you did I want to manage with him budgets and utilize it and that's what I guess sort of the proposal for the Board of Ed we're asking for us you know eighty thousand of help and they can do it that mean from their first ask this is eighty thousand this isn't like we've cut them and we caught them we're going back from the first ask eighty thousand to try to manage it without something happening I think is asking them to live within their budget and not use it as a contender or a credit card as well and it creates a unanimous bipartisan support for not by me that creates the entire Board of Selectmen entire Board of Finance at higher court Abed just pushing forward with a budget that we're actively supporting to the town that we feel I think we can though I don't think we can do that I actually believe that right now I think that with the makeup that we have I think that Sean's relationship was Collette is very good I think it's trustworthy and I think that Steve can hold up his under the triangle if I could just remind everybody the board can move up to 20,000 dollars now with our new ordinance within a department anytime we want to move money from one department and this is one department let's say to Public Works we have to get Board of Selectmen importer finance approval and we've always done that we will never use the contingency without going to you guys because that wouldn't be right and it also it's illegal small details but no Glenn is right we don't want to use this as a little piggy bank that we can use it why do you want to do this project I wanted to know the answer's no I think at some point we got let the system work we got to get back to what the system's supposed to be and I think everybody was forced and I think again the Board of Ed was always forced into well if it's 28,000 make it 30,000 because if we're not gonna be able to get the money if we fall up short and I think we got to start somewhere I'm building up this trust and move it forward that's it's in my opinion okay so we do further comments on that well I wouldn't feel comfortable moving education until we get the firm answer from the Board of Ed Council that's number one number two there's a chance that were cancelled tomorrow so we would wrap up the biggest portion of the budget Thursday essentially if there's anything else that we want to talk about as far as Board of Education is concerned Shawn what what wording did you use for that fund the unexpected expense fund for the really unexpended unexpended education funds account and that is section 10 - two four eight a in chapter 171 time management yeah maybe you can talk about what we actually brought in this audit that we are looking to bring to the general fund reserve fund I don't think we've said the number no well yeah I was going to I was no topic the other way okay right but it's not published up right but I expected it's not published it but can we say what we anticipate you know [Music] right so we met with so we're gonna be I'm gonna be presenting to the Board of Finance also on Thursday the results of the audit the what Glen is talking about is is the 2000 the 2017 audit is going to add a bit over a million dollars of general fund from where it was at the end of 16 to the end of 17 meaning that the revenues for 2017 exceeded expenses by by a little over a million dollars and we had a very positive impact to the general fund in Alaska school year that's it that's us that's a good thing it's a very good thing so part of this money that we're talking about tonight the seventy nine thousand that Sean brought up at the beginning was the board of EDS extra money the unused budgeted money so it's not well you know I don't want to have people freak out over taking it for that we're gonna put over 1 million dollars to the general reserve fund even if we utilize this or allowed the Board of Ed to utilize this money right right so it's bit right I mean it's there it was it that the close of 17 so right yes right correct that's great that's great so we had a good year and we're trying to offset some of the costs of a heavy expenditure year utilizing some money that's already been paid for by the taxpayers that's right I agree to that questions comments concerned and that was just a lot of information from the last 45 minutes it's coming from the town side education site that's consolidated it's all consolidated at the end of the year is a matter of these companies you can tell right big the audited financials but it's all just one big dive the larger portion is on that downside okay do we want to see what it looks like if we were to add for the sake of argument 52 that contingency you see it a vacuum that doesn't mean anything because you [Music] I guess it does whoops that's too many zeroes try and tribute back I know zeroes [Music] also on that tax tip there on the the revenue tip did you add 52 and that's gonna be how for you right being Christy essentially the expenditures moved so now we have to add plus 50,000 there and that should then flow there's an actual surrounded it still 1.55 absolutely increase tonight I'd okay with that I mean I'm one with Dan I'll be a hundred percent and I want to see us manage it and really manage it hard but just to cover ourselves I'm okay with that [Music] and then the contingency is is just that it's not you're marked for a specific thing necessarily yes but at the end of the day everything that comes out of that contingency fund does run through the Board of Finance I believe at one of our last regular meetings Steve did present to us an accounting of what's come out of that general fund what we had remaining for that 700 mm in the current budget so the expectation would be to have that running forward I think until obviously we close out the year for that 702 and then what it would be if this doings forward out of that 251 we should know because you're going to be approving it all right but a proper accounting yeah but take a scraper unemployment where was our thing might be hit with as a year goes through that's something we can attach to the minutes yeah data so that everyone knows exactly where that came out of any further commentary or deliberations on on that update so if we tap the contingency fund unexpectedly the unexpected events where do we go next the only time we can tap it before a contingency fund if there is a genuine emergency and the boys luckily get together I'm not sure what that would be right I don't what statute is pretty clear on has to be gentle an emergency you have to declare the emergency and then you have to allocate the funds and then come back to the board and tell them why you did this and take take the example we had last week right death where there was an emergency generators shut down and we needed to quick get something fixed apparent that's something that would quick appropriate of a general fund I was replenished later with bond proceeds but no that's what that's for something like that the only thing I can think of is let's say we lost two of our ambulance using this within a couple days of each other and we needed it either rent them or buy them very very quickly right but even that it's a there's a time period to buy it to get an ambulance delivered so I don't even think that would qualify well we might have to rent one I'm just trying to think of things what about like a weather emergency Steve like a hurricane or something yes okay yes you know if we had a higher that's a good example let's say we had what happened down in Westport they lost 60% of their streets in the last storm before last and they kind of hire crews outside crews to come in and start clearing those streets because it was an emergency situation and their police and fire could not access most of the restaurant residents you know what if we had a higher crews to come in we would do that immediately that's a that's a whole nother again now you're talking FEMA help you're talking a lot of different things that dis or ten pounds up yeah yeah but by the time the theme against you right now I appreciate that I mean and then correct me if I'm wrong again because when we spoke to the auditors the general fund the reserve fund is to be used for these things as long as it's used properly absolutely this was not a hit on our bond rating this was not a hit if we managed properly even if we have to go to the reserve from which none of us want to do let me be clear but that account is set up for this situation that's why you're supposed to be at ten percent to be able to use it when you hit an emergency that you can't fund in your budget that's unexpected and that's not frowned upon by the reading of the rating industry as long as it's not tapped into every year right absolutely right if it if it's used for emergency and then there's a plan if you absolutely and we talk to the article absolutely this week non-defining yes we did so to put your point we can use the fund properly and not take an adverse rating effect so something we're definitely like we're talking about and to be on the other side of this we got to get better at managing their budgets if we can't manage within a certain percentage of a contingency fund I mean that shows we got to figure it out and get smarter and I think we have the rating agencies will look at frown upon very heavily if you're using that general fund as a stopgap 20,000 40,000 30,000 then they say you're not budgeting properly but if you're constantly hitting that that's why I bid against hitting that at all if there was a true hurt you see a true unexpected you go in there and rating agencies would say what did you do why did you do it okay we understand it and it will not affect your radio but if you're dipping in there a number of times they're going to say you don't have the financial discipline that we want to see understand yeah so what what flow of decision-making goes on Steve do you have to go to air counsel or how do you to when you still have to do so yeah the Board of Selectmen can declare an emergency and spend money immediately okay then have to provide the reason to both the Board of Selectmen ourselves and to you tend to go through the process then we try to do that it's going to be a really rare occurrence where we maybe it's a Saturday night they have a hurricane but we're gonna know that anything and we have to do something and we would do it okay I don't think you I don't know of any case when it's actually been enacted in Brookfield where the Board of Selectmen had an emergency expenditure clearly if you know it affects life or help but a safety of our residents it was probably the only things that would qualify to be really clear if we talk about the bigger picture this whole thing is are we really gonna cut enough out of a first wave budget to really make it where that amount of money really is gonna put us into crisis control because if we're looking at right now as we stand we've only underfunded the port of it by 80,000 in general the town size 20 million if we go through it now and we we take out another hundred thousand or two hundred thousand what are we talking to 280,000 on a sixty three million dollar budget if we can't manage two hundred eighty thousand dollars with it sixty three million we're in trouble we're in trouble period the towns in trouble it's just not conceivable to me I mean will it be tough will it make maybe some things not go to way we want it to go possibly but in the big picture the scare that we're talking about I think is something it's gonna be a bigger number there has to be something to address that just might unless we're cutting the townsite by catastrophic and then that's a different ballgame to talk about [Music] discussion so just going going through the tabs we have there as they're presented several for right now comfortable with revenue as has been presented I don't have any questions on education cost sharing our and the other things that were in there do it go through that last night yep okay we covered education right we touched on the contingency so those are both on the expenditures tab I'm we can take it through we can take it through expenditures that's really where we should lay off right now I like getting with that but I mean as everybody else is Dan and Rick to me yeah [Music] right do we want to go department by department or line by line right so first up the select nerds office any thoughts in there total it goes up the request is an increase of 7.4 9% primarily driven percentage-wise by office and supplies and travel and conference dollar-wise that the main driver is not union wages where's the tap with the actuals for prior years do we have that understand if you if you went to individual take the one that I sent out in the individual departments yeah the actuals were only inserted on that expenditures tab and there's expenditure if there's actuals for 1617 oh actually we have actual isn't there I apologize for a fourteen fifteen and fifteen six did you want to see more than one year of actuals mate Ricky maybe expand that and then hide the budget columns there so hide the yeah I don't that I don't write up to thank you and then let's just see the foot three years or four years perfect and then since we're only midway through we didn't know six plus six without that budgeted for a 1718 right so if we look at if you now go over to the percentage caller whenever I see 26:23 percentage increases and you go to prior year data that go back over here twenty nineteen hundred and twenty six I always have concerns it's just me I'm not saying that I always see that those accounts are there always the accounts that get over compensated for the year before I took office the continuing education travel and dues when the first eleven was actual spend of nine damas $9,000 that doesn't make it right I didn't say makes him right but there are a lot of things I pay for personally well you shouldn't so let's be clear on that if you don't leave with you you should have do the reasons there's news I just like I say that's an area and I can pick an example that in the town clerk's life budget you'd have the town clerk going in to conferences you use last year's data as the conference base so it was the nicely done that I'm not making anything but in that the conference is in South Barry's so you already have hotels built into her travel to stay at South Barry now that's true why would we have an expenditure for hotels in South Barry when none of us would be staying at a hotel in our companies if we were in South Barry we'd be driving to it from the conference it's a conference in their own angel that evening there are presenters and meetings to meet with your other town courts when you go to a conference you're at a conference you're there for three days therefore to MLR many days going in and out you don't get as much knowledge as when you sit down at dinner with somebody talk to them how do you handle this out of you handle I go to more conferences and anybody in this table it upon itself Barry on that standard hotel I'm a damn very I'm not staying at a hotel if I'm in Hartford I'm not staying at a hotel if I'm in New York sometimes I don't stay in a hotel I do my do I do my business and I'm able to get home and I'm saying these are when we're making hard decisions that's where I see travel accounts and I'd go to more conference I'm a sales guy I go to more sales conferences than you can shake a stick at and to me these are the areas that I see we can squeeze down on and that's when I see big percentages that's just again the thought process of big jumps and travel I think you talk big percentages in cases some cases we're talking $500 because a budget might absolutely stiva I know your relative versus absolutely right yeah if we have $100,000 item and we're increasing in 25 percent okay that's real money that's 25 grand that's why that's why you use percentages though when you do a lot of things you base it on percentages and what I'm saying is 500 here 500 there 600 here before you know what I got 15,000 to put something at Center school that's I'm trying to say when I'm just saying when I see big percentage jumps because if you go here and I know I'm starting off but it has a merit to it Gotha so your travel and office supplies lines with the two lines went up 23 to 25 percent right there 25 percent of travel go down to the next office would we go up and travel [Music] 20 percent I mean it's just it flows through you're right it's small dollar Steve I'm not gonna lie to you and you're absolutely correct but each department 20% increases on the Travel line not each department somewhat doubt I yes you're correct but the town clerk we have a new town court she's going to attend more conferences we want her fully qualified as a town clerk there are a lot of classes she gets CEUs going in these conferences and like first thing for one want a fully qualified town clerk yes agreed and so we totally are in Warriner training we just do I think it's penny wise pound foolish not to have the best trained people again we're also in the town clerk's office now we used to have a separation one of her employees would do all of these things one of another one would just do the vital statistics or cross training them so they think you need to vote so that requires training for both of them also this isn't just for the town court themselves I think it's a reasonable expenditure you guys can decide what you want to do I think it's reasonable [Music] I mean the optics of staying at a hotel in South Korea I can see that's not great no not great we change that and in fairness I know she based it off of the last year's to get a best but that was just an example of when you're doing this that's always seems to be a category that seems thin you're right it's small number Steve I'm not gonna lie to you they add up as you say they do and that's when I see that the biggest if you look at all your other line items even throughout the budget to a percent three percent four percent you're very consistent on a lot of the other line items it just seems that those are the ones that seem to have the bigger numbers that's all it was just a point to bring up any proposals any discussion not needed wages that's a big one as well so we had that offline executive session discussion a week or so ago none of that's flown through these numbers here in right we hadn't changed we had a discussion but we have not made any changes tennies now I mean again that's a tough thing to do I've listened to what Steve has had to say about we're not in other towns levels we have dedicated employees my heart says anything above 4% is a tough number to give anybody in today's world I understand what you're saying so yeah it's not like I'm not listening to what you're saying I hear the dedication and I know that the jobs that some of these people are doing but in every one of our businesses we have that same restraint on us that we can't change a salary by such a large number you could do it over time you know I have about 130 employees and I'm asking for raises for less than 3% of them over 2 so we're not really nearly walking through employees in just any memories I didn't say willy nilly at all I said I realize it's a handful of employees I just said I find it difficult to give that kind of raised without promotion in any business generally it's difficult to get through particularly in the case of that my assistant she is underpaid by a significant amount I think it is reasonable given her years of service and what she does for the town she got this put together today this is the bond resolution that we're gonna suffer to get this done in six hours she left a photo of um she's really really really good and I think she deserves to have at least the mid which is what I'm proposing on what executive assistants captain that's what's the headcount in the Select mom's office - right - you know if you had six employees who would look like you're increasing salaries one non-union and one well two non-union Steve why does the First Amendment's our econ down I'm sorry can you speak up like the First Selectman salary has gone down from these earlier in years two percent yeah I don't think it you haven't gone down I mean I'll be other these numbers are off you think 215 see Angeles 1562 consent no you didn't go down you didn't take a pay cut [Music] no I think it's a timing issue before prior so I wasn't leave here oh no no no I know a distance that prior first 11 and two weeks of vacation left nes be paid it teachers in a row though Steve right it's 80 it's 89 to 45 and 60 and 15 16 and they guess is I guess it I wasn't here is that that stipend is in there that's my guess see there's no sighs I think it's rolled into the actual salary yeah see if you notice a stipend has nothing in it for those years it's in that day yeah no I know you know [Music] yes to while recognizing the amazing work [Music] and it's a little it's a little rough to go through but I mean such an increase in thinking's it's rough I think in this current budget cycle I would propose doing that over maybe two years so that it's a ten percent IRR to thirteen point eight seven percent increase in $10,000 oh it's 10,000 right for thirteen point eight seven percent that's it that is exactly the line to avoid which is talked about individual people salaries been kind of there's this high agree with it's painstaking because I the bucket was one person the rocket was died I know I mean you look at let's look at it from the big picture because you're doing this at the board event look at the increase at the board of the same asking for and you pretty much are comfortable where we are now with the board yet can you go back to the memory page what look at the percentage that we're asking for the town you're talking you scroll up it's 1.8 3% is a total increase that we're asking for the downside remember salaries are most of my costs and I'm under the 2% for the budget yes I mean you can recommend time the town side and really affect my operations and my people and my staff and we've looked at this down Sean and I and John and glad you for a long time I've looked at this for three years now none of our budget minds when we Glen you went through it upside and downside right John and Sean have to there isn't a lot of fat in my budget there isn't and I don't think I'm unreasonable requests that I'm making I'm not asking to will if you go across the board and give everybody a ten percent increases I'm saying to you we have some employees that are incredibly good that we think should be at least at the mid of their salary levels that over the years in other towns even in the town of Brookfield people on similar levels are getting three and three and a half percent raises year after year after year in other towns they're giving their non-union employees the same raises they're giving their union employees the police last year out of two and a half percent increase CSEA cut a two and a quarter percent increase dispatchers got is two and a quarter percent increase my people got a 2% increase in the year before they got a two percent increase when the union people got more I think it's reasonable to pay these people reasonably I do and because we haven't done it for years right where we're finding ourselves in a little bit of playing catch-up now I know this is a really difficult year that's why we were very careful as to who we ask additional phrases you know I have one employee is making $7,000 a year less and unit employees and she's a manager I think it's reasonable to bring her up to the same level as the union employees she has more responsibility and every burden on her and she doesn't work just 35 hours a week I think that's reasonable I think the increase that were asking is very reasonable given the circumstances work it's time with Dan as I will agree with you Steve here at overall last I think is is well within life but not good I mean almost to the point where Bowl was and I know I was pointing out some points almost at a point where I was saying you're pretty much in line you can't get much lower than what you're asking for what we talked about was perception to the to the voters to get this budget to pass as well and in this town to unfortunately and I'm guilty of it too sometimes we focus on the negatives instead of the positives and we blow that month and the first thing that happens when we say we're going to give a ten thousand or thirteen percent favoring is that's the first in is gonna ripple through the time that we have to be strong if we're behind it that so let me be clear because who's gonna get that flag we all are I mean we all get phone calls Steve doping you know they would have you go in the last two days I have not got as much as you've gotten I appreciate that and that's why you're in the big chair I get my share too but I I'm more with Sean I'd rather see us staging in and get to a point and I know it's probably semantics and I understand it's pay me now pay me later but it's a perception thing and I don't think you can correct all wrongs in prior years with one right I think you gotta get to that stage now they deploy you that you're using in this example is fantastic I'm not going to lie I mean I don't feel while your employees I know this one and yes I think and that it let me be further really clear I think the First Selectman should have a higher pain in the seat that that chair is hit to but we can't do I agree with you on that but you can't get there from here sometimes sometimes you have to take a step approach yeah I see your point and usually I'm had a movies where they were for whatever reason or underpaid and put together a plan to get them to at least the median of their peers right in this case this person way below the median ever appears and I think it's reasonable to pay what I'm asking when I'm not asking for every employee and you've got to allow me to manage my employees how's the First Selectman and I don't go around asking for money for every single employee you know we've got this discussion and I had very direct conversations you did die and we've lost employees because I wouldn't pay him a salary that they demanded we've lost employees we have met the demands and they just got a marriage it happens it's that's not that's business I mean that is please it happens it happens so Steve if there's turnover in a position and you've already offered an increase when you rehire you're not locked into offering that same salary that the exit person was receiving right typically our our history has been we were pay about getting to the zip our tax assessor we were paying seventy eight thousand dollars a year when she left we had to pay ninety thousand dollars a year to get someone with the equivalent experience yep we had a typically we have data more okay I believe in overpaying our existing employees but that's pretty typical even in the private industry and no one's gonna change jobs for the same salary right no one's gonna cheap jobs for a five percent ratings why take the risk of that you're not gonna work in that organization right typically you want a fifteen twenty percent bump to change jobs but if we lose people you know then we have to pay more typically we have to pay not in every case but then what we're bein yeah just because what's in the market there yeah and this budget cycle I don't like the idea of going so far above to correct all of these the prize I just other people's opinions were two of six energy so kind of think I prefer more stuff as approach and he says true depression of that's a quick jump just disco and very good but I think approachin in general I was wondering if there's any there's a merit-based approach on pay raises it seems like we're trying to match the unions which you know trying to maximillian's we're trying to pay people reasonable salaries based on their position length of service but if everybody across the board is interesting percent if we're paying our union to the quarter yeah right now we're budgeting 2% for my employees for the third kind of a year for everyone that's not union that doesn't seem to me to be fair because my non-union employees work more hours they work weekends sometimes yeah they stay as late as say one of my union employees are going to four o'clock every single day no they're not otherwise I would ask to raise this for all yeah I didn't but in that case I just wonder why that's not merit they said [Music] this is for the non-union but I think you'll get a sense we aren't doing merit-based there because I'm not asking for a big increase for everybody remember municipal organization is not a private thing every salary is discoverable every salary gets discussed in Town Hall you don't think that our employees have looked at this budget and said ooh look at that look at this look at that and you figure it out to the penny who's getting what it's a colander it's just the way it is so you the idea of merit based on a pool we talked about that earlier it's been tried before in town and it failed miserably oh but for those employees that we think are doing an incredibly good job that improve to be loyal and capable and work really hard I think it's reasonable regardless of the year I know we're having a bad budget here but the town isn't we'd have a huge increase in the school sites you're gonna say to me because we have such a big increase in the school side we're gonna take it away from the town to get to a level I don't think that's fair if you've no no no no I'm gonna I'm gonna have to argue that point we're not taking away from the town we're questioning a ten thousand dollar pay increase of 13 percent pay increase we're not taking away from the town we're saying we're questioning the amount taking away would be say 2 percent across the board for everybody we are giving you some leeway to I think that's a bad choice of words so we're not taking away from the town let me ask you this question did you go through all the board dollars and decide Oh everybody's getting this Mathis Mathis and now you say well guys you know what we don't have next say we don't have that say I could say cut a hundred miles about a salary so you could look at all of those things in their budget and say I think this is more reason to do what you want with schools but I think this increase is more reasonable how many are your employees our Union and how many employees are not Union about 70/30 there you sure about that 20 you take out through these Department take up the police department go non-union salaries versus Union salaries what's the ratio [Music] season 34 people three I think the salaries are four five nine Union and union if you take out the police unit do the best for me do the math before me I'd like to see it you know most of my plays okay so is there wage savings anywhere else I'm sorry a certain weight if you have wage savings anywhere else for example Parks and Rec position opened up there yeah we probably will we probably will but we're budgeting for the similar salary at the moment right now it's at the same salary that the director of Parks and Rec dan are you doing it and we're pretty close to making a decision there but I don't want to discuss that salary in public right now when the process of hiring somebody kind of finish that in the next week or so I want to go baby salaries here for a minute let's go back collects ear and cheek and answers on the board of that site on salaries how many of her salaries are not contract related Union because I know the principle has principles heaven Union I know the Paris haven't Union how many positions are we talking about what's a handful nine twenty twelve people 20 people we have no control on managing those pay raises they are what they are what they are the union's negotiate them and unions have been involved with private sector in years so and the Union everybody gets the same and that's what I think Eileen was that looting to ISM we start our baseline almost at the union ring of and then we add to it we don't start a percentage below the Union rate and say if you're not performing at a certain level you're going to get one percent so you're going to get lower than in Union and then my higher performers are going to get a Union rates and we're starting at Union just below you generate I mean the you're saying two percent I know the Paris was two point three the nurses was 2.0 the Union prior year I'm saying prior year 2.0 teachers average one two eight three four years something like that I'm not sure all I'm saying is we're starting at at our base level of pay raises yes you're comparing that the BOE gets more money and we're not looking through some we can't look at their salaries we go look at fifty nine possibly but I'm saying this the Union we're just below the Union pay raises on your baseline increase your standard whitewash increase and now when you go above that is where we're having this issue of absorbing the higher increases [Music] my point is our baseline 2% is almost union wages you're making the argument that we're below union wages we're below Union raises your baseline everybody gets two percent is pretty much like the Union it's a quarter percent under 22 a half percent under ordered over 10 years you're talking about a lotta money how much money am I talking about am i talking about $10,000 on a seventy two thousand dollar pair is enough I multiply it out I don't want to have to read it you know I've asked you guys and I and I think I've made a very good case for the salary increases that I want the total increase over two percent for my staff it's just about twenty thousand dollars I like I can't get sent you the information not only fanzine I can't be I lifted a mountain I know that but it can't be happy you did but I mean we've got ten thousand on there let's go right through here it goes down to ten thousand town clerk there are 13,000 with the first two positions so the last five positions are above tip I'm saying oh and the two percent yes I apologize yes it's just about 20 times I said you know no you're right I apologize you're right because then you would be - in the 2% out of that number we're getting it so I think it's fair to say okay we're gonna give everybody 2% why don't we look people to give over that 2% that's I think they're a fair comparison the total value Union wage increase approximate system that's the I'm sorry say again total not even anyways I painted a business right including the good that the 2% increase plus the overage of the over 2% into that $60,000 everybody so who said that 16 reviews of 15 wife [Music] Coquina pirate that way where you decide rather than 20,000 over two percent for those positions [Music] we say there's a reasonable time if you do it it how you see this otherwise we're gonna look line by line and we're gonna have the same argument because I have different opinions about different positions anything okay so then let's do a line by line to just do it by two different positions right why not if you have different opinions we do it right Steve yes on the assistant salary if you did take this jump would you be able to keep it stable next year okay okay or do you need to apply another increase next yeah it's hard for certain low lower middle in terms of managing your employee I'm saying would you be able to keep it set for next year you know people who have given raises two before over the percentage I haven't given him another 5,000 or 6,000 or 10,000 they've gotten 2% the next year no need Steve did hold to that that happened it fair to Steve and and a couple raises he gave last year he did not compound the raise this year I went to a 2% you know you turned something I mean and I'm gonna play devil's advocate in its for discussion is if we went to call it and said Collette you we're giving your superintendent at 13 percent pay raise would we say something on our site to the 13 percent pay raise to the superintendent you can't he's on contract no I'm just saying I isn't it as an example would we say something about that good yes so we're doing the same thing in Reverse here so what you're doing is what I'm saying you have the right to do that I just think I've made a very good argument for those people that I've asked for credit for you additional increases and you know what I'll give you the tax account clerk right I see your point somebody new to the job I'm asking to get her up typical town clerk's make 85 to 90 in our area right I'd like to move that salary up into so remember we're looking long term if we have jobs especially an elected position that pays reasonable salary we'll get really good people if Andrea ever decides to leave sometimes you won't get people to run for these jobs because they don't [Music] I agree with you it was uh it was known for arcing discussion I agree with that but I think spurred by that line I agree I agree with that but I think we know who's been in our wheels on that I think so we're getting a lot of a - I just wanted to make one more point if I may before we do that I think that a person's longevity in the position is very important and I think that is that does require out-of-the-box recognition on this on the flip side I think the person very new in the drum deserves some encouragement for doing a very good job but I think there we need to be more cautious because they're so new viewpoint I accept that logic as well I just I just do I think there's a wrong Steve yes okay they've kind of know a lot but to correct the wrong in one swoop I just I have difficulties I think it should be stepped that's just my opinion I'm 106 that's all 106 so I'm ready to vote I don't know how to volapük 20,600 8 was the information we got from Steve above the 2% [Music] 20 million dollars I heard and understood all right so now I hear the argument Steve but perhaps on those if you were looking for 20600 here we compare that down to ten thousand three hundred you can do that program and then a based on the department's that you have these in or not yeah I mean that's that's just an idea I think too there's I think five departments here right and that way you take you take a stepped approach where put that in next year and for those folks who are those positions would we look at that again in a favorable light would anyone like to entertain that discussion how'd you come up with the number tap for the email that's half it's added up cut it in half I mean there's no indication for the email that we got what the increase above 2% was one could be 10% one could be thoughts here they're going right food I know all right Oh tell some are cool yeah yeah yeah back out to 2% you're at the number but I mean those are easily tied to the department [Music] I don't see another fair and equitable way to do that versus those folks are still getting the standard and then some if they grew that and I would encourage Stephens manager to the I think the guidance of longevity into account when applying the country three months purses thank you [Music] for instance I was thinking that because I mean the amounts are doled out that it would just be a pro-rata v like 50% you know I know but yeah I'd rather him see fit how he wants to allocate that because if he thinks that there's more deserving than work that's his you know he could I feel like that's um it's him to manage that but I agree that [Music] I I wouldn't agree that half would make sense because I think there's proportional raises that he needs to apply for people you know in different situations so I don't think that makes sense do you have something to countenance or to counter with for that you know another way they've decided that we are all voters [Music] without seeing what the 2% increase actually is the to percents built that already ya know said this is top of and so with $20,600 there's budget that's above the standard look for this one in threes and four going down 270 bill but you could leave it at the 17 in any loose for the salaries accordingly yeah I think half of 20 is is a big trout them with a number that do you think is a reasonable number well then still everybody getting to percent and then in addition to that is may 2 percent plus that addition additional 10 3 to allocate Steve if you if you did 2/3 this year and push the other third of the of the total balance so next year does that make sense but that hell I'd be happier Sean's yeah I think cutting it to ten is cutting too close among the number of people that is targeted for exceptional performance it's not all about performance though some of this is getting people to market and as you're not thinking about perform yes yeah well for both reasons for both reasons it's I think it's too many people involved to cut it 50 which I disagree with you but I have no desire to bring somebody up to even the mid if they're not a great performer I've had employees come to me and ask me for raises and I've said no I hear these this is also performance-based the amount of the increase is to get them towards the middle of their range all right last time but this I got another question that asked and then write them about is are we when we dictate salaries and we do this is the Tao cloud to use that towards a salary [Music] about remember I can't move money from one department to another yes I did agents I decided not to use these the salary increases I could put him in the continuing education like okay you want to select me yeah I can't do the personal so if we were to give ten three on this extra and say you know what we get to did that his budget you can go to where you want to go you got to live within your budget but the line items are dictated right and it's my department so he would have to transfer living in those departments I'm sure there's a devalue 8000 within that which would be the value opinion but the by Department request it would be I see your point doing I see this until you get into a problem by line item if let's say you give me either amount right I'm going to have to allocate that it probably would have to come back to you because we were moving when you put it in one line item right and then I would come back to you too a little bit I mean during this week or after your budget a budget is final it's that a big hassle to do that no it's a request supporters like that makes it requested Ward finance the new this from this line to this line to this line that is like to reduce office or travel and continuing education and put it into a solid yeah all right so with that in mind why don't we continue going through this and we'll all have a think on how we want to handle salaries and come back to it okay Thursday still here so anything else for the selected office [Music] and keep in mind because there is an argument or a argument for or against this is still this is still our budget boat okay this is still our budget too go through this is no different than another department coming in the fire department stating their case keep that in mind please Town Clerk office do you get the proposed increase 21:03 so you know I mean wall a little bit up little bit up [Music] 21000 1:07 t9r 7.6 9% anything to go through I'm there [Music] it's just gonna be so picking you and I'm a lot of these things that's in you well I don't need to be the home where next encounter I'll help be really honest wit chip I feel strongly if you feel struggling about the the travel the travels only up $75 here however it's the the taking out dollars the point of the matter was that it was budgeted based on prior year without a need for the funding that was in the prior year so that was the point anyone feels strongly about that we can chat about it if not like in London like I can move on I mean I just brought it up as a notation petition to say that this is how we get to some places where we go good money wise not travel wise I'm just saying these are the areas that typically grow and have less management over it because it's such a small number and it's accepted and it just goes and it gets lost in the sauce again I don't handle this part of the budget cuz Steve is right in his own way and he's asking for one whatever percent increase overall so what are we really gonna pull out of this thing I'm up for suggestions but I mean we could pull out 300 here for on it there [Music] what is it really my exercise department by department I would say we see something gross we bring it out if not we Dan yeah Ricki Lisa yeah then department by department anything in a department then huh I mean we've already identified the salary lines that we think we need to do something we're gonna have to think about it and then I think anything gross that we see I think with the town clerk specifically were and raised in a new position and if they're looking to restructure I think we kind of need to get you know but see how it falls out this year because if responsibilities are changing and training is increasing that kind of isn't the do so maybe that's just something to consider for this year and then have our harder look at it next year when we see how it seems but that is one of the only positions yeah that I will agree that we have to look at something like that only from the fact that it's not a hired position it's an elected position yeah so yeah you know I it's not like the person gets hired to fill the position yeah and they get serious and then we got to train them to do their job I think in this case it's a little bit different aspect but the other positions if we hire someone to do a job we should pay their training to do the job we should be hiring them to fill the position alright there's nothing on town-clerk registrars 2700 our inquiries 2.5% the bulk of which is the election expensive and also this year we think we're going to have a primary we're going down a little bit for the governors races yeah with so many candidates it's our guests so we've got a little American how many do we have built in there one right there and how many referendums it was specified yeah three right yeah what three are we have we found budget town budget school schools know the November budget in the primary I thought there was a thought something was mentioned for protection remember election that budget budgets next year that's right Miranda you have a reference but no that's it who will probably have a referendum for the schools yeah we may not make it by Election Day that's a doctor I'm sorry if I keep on thinking we're having that on an election but every year and every year though you have we have a budget referendum oh yeah right yeah maybe year a budget referendum I want at least one election in November and impossible primaries and any other referendums this year we think we're going to happen three yeah we can get it to November they'll save ourselves suddenly if Caleta some nodding at me that we can make it by November what's wrong schools so that's critical we've got them into that before it's got to go for planning and zoning that's the next one on there to 2.09 an increase for 5,800 primary driver their salaries 2% of peace you'll love this one land use building it's going to take a lot of discussion it's up $39 or 0.0 0.0 and technical support is going down it's not as straightforward as you may think next one in fire marshal that's going up by about 80 800 or a 7% primary driver the part-time wages does anyone need a refresher and what that was for now burgers gonna be offset by the fees revenue side so that's really a wash I think that we're doing this we're doing these feeds you've got to produce more paperwork you're gonna have more supplies you're just gonna have this just compounds they also need remember the code books and some equipment it's a technical support I think was the permian yeah the technical support went up a lot and I was yeah I don't know what that was about technical supplies books that was in the presentation was new code books oh yeah yeah okay sorry I was the videos and technical surprising so yeah now these are the one offs yes was a one-time get us up to to speed I lost this is a next year we shouldn't see that extent next me you see someone on it next up health the health department there fifty two hundred or two point two two percent primary driver main account wages Community Development 15:38 increased 1.5% primary driver wages for comfort tyrella superset the wage increase there the Beast of the mall conservation take solace in the fact that there's no stray data what do these what are their projects that they're this is my merrily working Karski oh and Bing Bing Gorski gotcha right and we're locked into that yeah get your federal grants yeah we don't have a say in that exactly we have we were showing their progress that yeah we're gonna otherwise they're gonna next up the historical district that's actually a $260 decrease their time Kirksey Commissioner stays flat the assessor's office that's an increase of 8,500 about for around 3% primary driver there being total wages but was the it's not unreasonable what was the overtime driver on that Steve on the tax assessor's we have during the summer we have a period where they have to update all the records so we hire temporary help come in and do so it's not really over time it's temporary help yes I'll be better I know the terminology and keep the accounts lined up and did you probably be more seasonal worker because it's really not over I feel strongly about rearranging those lines I'd let it ride cuz it's all part of total wages yeah tech clothes tax collector's office actually has a seasonal part-time you know outline item so might be something to be consistent that me yes you should switch them yeah I agree with Darlene on that don't you yeah I agree with that lien if it's truly seasonable and you've seen it to have the answer right away and then if it's truly a seasonal you change them then it get me trapped so we feel strongly for having the update next year that when we arrange something this year so it's budgeted recorded properly I'd like to see if this year done so we can our goal is to get tighter oversight not oversight but to be able to trend attract it he's changing County it's a process to change in honor you can change some sponge and continue to track oh yeah yeah because if you know this what it is when you're not here oh yeah you were right once than see one here right just how about here Shawn's not here wherever the old board changes in a year I know it can't but change in the air that's what's gonna be in early does that formula pick up the five in Australia 222 definitely up to five I was up there that kind of yeah carry that sucker over to the left let's teach my sound [Music] water all those in favor of moving that line item to make it that are trackable xti and any decision no this is almost to the team [Music] and then we give you any as a cover-up tax collector one said I want increase or a renovated 410 apartment the controller with an increase in it I waited - secretary the Autobahn eliminating on all the positions that I have time Oh [Music] secretary secretary and I proposed when I told the discussion yes actually the actual canyon right to set up we don't have we have a rely on the number in there right so while I figure out what that is as reliable in underfoot because it's an option that will fail and our so that was when I thought it was nasty you know last year [Music] okay let's assume an attack is like right back on the ribbon there all those either team secretary stuff but please make even that was well I mean increased super sand and Sun so there are a lot of process all right move on to a lot of fees and leave in a prior year was poor Washington was a little finance portion forward ahead WETA and I believe it was a so it is 25 the PCA 7609 bill was 69 thousand for there goes the this is lacy and then we've got about 6080 so if there are no or less actual time spent next year yes again if you're running the WEC the 11 cynics remove that extra filling sinking that then you should it be between the Board of Ed and us we should be expelled right leaving 11 6 out there on our side if we use that for extra counts when it every day and decide when you want to die and it's a miniature it be your distraction you know our thing Bureau Federation does it authorized we reduce it down by 2025 from the world ahead the extra building right equivalent to Carl Ross for the with everyday let's do is process because we need the base which I don't think you spend how much okay with that you know it was just better than what we get the great job really this is odd so 35 [Music] since I got I have what I said okay 68 degrees because women act quite a bit you Economic Development [Music] the recording secretary and [Music] I agree Oh [Music] next is personnel this is where we have our personalities I forgot I was wondering anyone was there anything it's primary driver is not equated just said Chris the next lemon I see my tailor actually want to do last set out an increase offset by sought offerings and in there it is Town Council and convinces 80,000 increases legal fees No yeah higher that's our nose so we have heels even though we have order in place and we use what this is a what it is it's monthly so he is 60,000 baseline users or [Music] after three years [Music] yes all right the know is listening to this schedule's happening we may not understand that to waiting an hour how to do glasses but just know there's a lot of people that aren't aware is that it was totally weird to wait an hour what is your can control your employees when I think it's right so let me be clear I'm a firm believer in this office so you have a procedure that people do before they go to be a shooting are you prepared you know that every email every phone calls this is a do you have a procedure for approxiately so before when you go over to be sure that it is a concise we have you know everyone is pretty good at a three-minute video recalling the public that's what I said I mean I agree I'll serve it so it does that that has didn't I lo and minikin in years it's trying to trying to generate streebek 1.5 percent increase overall overall but if we take the free ride with actual it was it's a diamond ring yes Bobo getting this is sitting quite a bit of the agent so I know nobody's touching that sort of services [Music] especially that's our Center focus enemies are I'm gonna try over there the way just Falls I'm eating good yeah it'd be kind of me yeah parks recreation any grease or hours the studio I don't think we've got the detail their program an external system they do the gross numbers reviews because all the money comes over to us and we deposited but the detail is on their system I think it's important that we you always take a look at that because they are maintaining half a million dollars so that's that's pretty important that we have a handle on what's in there next uptown grounds let's see here up five point five point five percent or about 35,000 primary driver there be maintenance questions on that I remember I think we covered that but I would say explanation I think part of it was a contract that the contract had gone up for the services that they use right they got increases in our contract in us and has still everyone and the primary trying to do the maintenance is the twenty thousand dollars a year two of the bridges see you tomorrow so you take that out Jimmy Pelton further discussion on that the Arts Commission they'll increase their discussion there public safety police department the lengthier budget their 4.25 percent increase or 180 185,000 primary drivers there of course wages and remember we gross up to 46,000 it's actually going to be $1,000 after we get the grants which is in the revenues you traffic service grants there that's a big-budget driver a second highest number there is that him anything else to go through on the police Center Fire Department maintain a budget offline and always see here is their net expenditures three hundred twenty five thousand five hundred ninety they have an increase of nine point nine point eight thousand twenty-nine many hundred or about three percent any questions or comments on that EMS there's a increase of four point seven nine percent or about forty thousand related to volunteer they're Candlewood Fire Department again same story as the center fire department as far as the numbers that we're seeing $31 increase or 2% why isn't listed under Homeland Security yeah this started after 9/11 and we had left we had no money in there last year we're talking to Jay Jay's come back barriers spending we wanted to I'm sorry my eyes are off so a civil defense Homeland Security they're expensive five thousand dollars their question apparently didn't budget anything last year because they were crandolfs and whatnot five dollars discussion public works this one here we do have a net decrease of 5,600 I do want to remind the group that's something that we discussed last night as part of our capital was we removed the doctor truck from capital the understanding that they could spend about four or five thousand dollars to prepare that and get at least another year out of it was it was it clear Steve that and their maintenance equipment that they could cover that there would that pain additional yeah pathetically three four five thousand and you might be best at everything no they can't cover in there what line-item with that going to it obviously but we were talking about fifty cleared a correction to this right is anyone recall like maintance practicing is there twice yeah but maintenance roads I think I actually harbors that activity and the 150th and is a maintenance equipment but that's correct we couldn't is the means to quit so if we put 150 for 150 points so but he do you mind going up or down here because we should have some maintenance equipment online I rode through 74 you could control C B to 74 and C to 74 dancing and take that maintenance equipment or 275 sûreté then paste that over I think we did this during the presentation but that's an old version and you could put that over 311 b12 we added that extra line all right yeah which means they got it okay yeah all right so carry over from last night I'm adding the $5,000 to maintenance equipment any further discussion on that all those in favor of adding the 5,000 to the equipment maintenance line and keep us a night okay okay six Oh but as the note some jellybeans okay so that's got a flow through there because are you over here change this has taken off the horse up in Budget Act I can it just about support violence I was the only yeah we have we've made two minor changes they oughta took down by 25 so we're at I think that change of 20,000 down all right if there's nothing further public works and go to town buildings there's an increase of 18.61 percent about 65,000 primary driver their wages any discussion on that town utilities 10.10 point eight percent increase for about seventy two and a half thousand dollars primary driver of that vehicle fuel and a close second electric in the left or any Cadogan for for this year and that's about three thousand they're still being a assist you requested why we have the one though is the strategic any further discussion on ten utilities Steve said he's going to come back with more actuals for prior years we should probably flag so you ever come back to that just something on their yellow some recycling up twenty thousand one hundred dollars or fifty two percent believe that was the additional hazardous waste day I'm sorry the recycling games yeah electronic waste questions on that all right Public Library next order of business and the stave can you just refresh us on what here or what the Board of Selectmen proposed reduction was was if there was a reduction or new entry positions yeah the library of this before positions in total new positions on Park Lane I thought it was three new three positions in one increase mr.
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Hecuba pretending they only there ten hours a week for the assistant to the librarian the Board of Selectmen agreed to do the increased hours for the assistant so if the librarian can do more library and stuff that was after keeping and one of the three assistants that they're requesting new assistant librarians they thought that was reasonable I think they're I think they're understand you know if we look at their report you can see we clearly along with any of those guys but I don't give him this legend I don't think we can move it up look at it each year plus they have space constraints to for their employees awesome yeah in the library at so much space constraints although they are crammed in there it's actual support constraints and I've seen it where librarians are over checking books out but okay simply check books out who could doing research or helping people find the right books I thought it was a very reasonable thing to do I just didn't think we could afford to three people and pretty much the rest of the budget elasticity any further discussion of that any and proposals what was the total joke 40 75 they totally increased 47,000 for any time thank you I mean that that adds 10 hours to one person and three additional assistance no oh that reads one out of the three and they can choose which one you know they know what yeah being that as part-time and I think there's a lot of value added for the amount of salary that they would be providing I would consider adding it to of the three requested part-timers an increase in the hours I'd be curious what others thoughts are but without knowing exactly which which position or positions if we added a second one I mean I'm very biased I would love to see the children's librarian in there you know along with the assistant but if if no guarantees can be made or assertions because it was made certain under no uncertain terms that it's at their discretion so if there's no guarantees then I think I support where it landed for this year and how much of the one or the other what will the increase bathe by adding anymore this is a twenty two twenty three thousand dollars about the same I think yeah can we meet in the middle we're talking about compromises and things so can we meet time and a half for that thing people feel more comfortable I'm just throwing out like we all agree I mean whether how we got to this point of the need of the staffing requirements I think we all do with a understand yes okay I mean I know got through it through a roundabout way that needs to be set aside and dealt with the real thing are they understaffed and how do we deal with the understaffing so you jump in I think Steve did that I think you know there's there was three plus additional and he's airing one plus additional it's a little less than half of the requests in the first year I think he did a good job yes I mean Eileen do you think there should be a little more I could see it I just thought well yeah I know that the discussions in Butte has to bend the therapist issues with not having enough staff available and potentially having to close the library on certain days and it is a very huge resource in town I just don't want to see that type of thing happening no no but they've had to reduce hours because of not having enough staff available and I think as long as we're if we agree to your proposal that were still open the next year we revisit absolutely we can't just say that that's enough a great option [Music] put that in the notes to this exactly what was and what was left in we should specifically know one part timer position plus additional hours included left [Music] there's a commitment to released a vibration to revisit visit two positions not data this year does anyone have any pointed questions before it's nice McIlvain [Music] so initial is in there just one hour pretty revisit it's too early because it here and I'll visit married we agreed they are understaffed that's not the problem yes there's no changes to select my budget public debt questions comments or concerns on this one things are corrected also I reviewed all the documentation that supports these numbers and uncomfortable so our town treasurer corks popping the controller in public that was it there's a section in my binder and the last one there any questions there regional services a decrease there about 12 and a half thousand questions comments concerns there the next one employee benefits increase of two hundred thirty two thousand or five point one nine percent the primary driver there is the Medicare supplement and health insurance offset by decrease in life insurance any questions or commentary to add there so we think that this health insurance numbers a little closer I know that this year there is the $90,000 okay yes you know we go Basinger yeah our actuarial arkansas tells us the exact here's your other ways here's how many marriages any single and this is your number so yeah we're comfortable with it I think her the awesome change weather review the prelim a lot a committee review of the capper or a very strong fun position great great that could be a busy one container yeah liability insurance October 14 14700 6 or an increase of 227 - driver and their workers comp other expenditures we have miscellaneous decreased there primarily attributable to the fact that the general contingency as if right now we brought that down three hundred two thousand as compared to last year or as compared to the selectmen budget also have increase in capital improvements of 15,000 questions comments and concerns this ladies all right so we've taken a prelim passiveness is anyone in favor of taking a five-minute recess like they do in that recess it's just a spreadsheet integrity get our formulas right bio brain make sure that we understand where we are I need to comment that's all right so well it's it could lead to a broader discussion so that's side so my comment is that this was a very good bottoms up budget discussion and I think it's probably a good idea to also do a top-down one similar to what the Board of Selectmen did with the Board of Ed where looked at the bottoms up said it was all everything's justified in decent shape however the total number is probably a little high both from an optics standpoint and from a total standpoint we'd like to take a little bit out to make the number more attractive that's what the Board of Selectmen did the Board of Ed we adjusted that is our job to do to consider the same thing to the board selectmen budget in general so my thought is that is two point is this is about two point seven five is that we're at is two point five a more attractive passable number is taking seventy-five thousand chopping it off and saying go find it the right thing to do so that works so that the Board of Selectmen budget is a 2.5 percent is that where it is already I won't accept already 1.7 where it was good all right well no no because we be chapter continued ceiling but are you including capital projects financing I know you're just talking about the 1.72 of 2016 all right so I'm with Dan I think we fund a bunch of peace males we've gone through it I think we got to look at so the night so that I'm Way off on the top down I need to review that but if my concept still stands yeah you know way I mean I threw out a number that was there's a lot of numbers of yeah yes so let's not and this was this was are just like we did you know on last night of capital this was our first run-through we flag things you know there's obviously a gorilla that we want to address so yeah I mean we're by no means I gotta look it looks with your whole number yeah you're right at the end when we go through our run-through we all look at the whole number and say is this something to live with yes one of the things I think I don't think is on here in the police grant we have a forty six thousand expense well we have a forty five thousand grand we want to make sure that's in here yeah I didn't see it anymore I think it should be in the revenue somewhere or move that grant line down to the 1062 I think I've done I felt I had that J said final cost would be pretty attractive serious grants traffic sir remember we put the whole expense into forty six thousand someone yeah there's an offset order five thousand coming back so we should put that in for miscellaneous income yeah we got of revenue forty this should go miscellaneous revenue yeah I wanna my favorite seven five was including the cash travel there's are the two points industry in the 1.7 the 2.7 yeah yeah we got agree with you definitely when we get to that point you got to look at the what you baked right yep that's all I got a look what you baked tip so I agree with it okay that was nice so we know you care right okay if you look at just a town in the capital projects right - 25 % like based on what something all right okay let's go to break all right all right yeah take about five minute break starting now [Music] romance on more like studies job and we are back from our brief intermission I do want to go back to that revenue tab there as we were discussing earlier this evening we went through the the police the expenditures there was traffic service item on there and we had as Steve mentioned we had grossed it up and the intent was to leave in the budget a net about $1,500 and that chief Purcell said would be our exposure so when when we put when we gross up the expense at that time we didn't go back and put in the revenue so if you scroll down here initially noose income okay right there that's 67 if you click in that cell that includes now that 25,000 that we had in there and now it includes the value of the grant revenue that we should get or that we're expecting to get of forty two thousand five hundred thirty-seven is there any any discussion on that all those in favor of adding that grant revenue to the miscellaneous income indicate by saying aye so the addition of that grant revenue carries six Oh due to the 25 25,000 was for still have any notes Oh the the sale the vehicle [Music] and the 43 I take grant revenue traffic yeah grant revenue traffic service grant revenue jellybeans imagine tomorrow that's well don't eat it there okay and now as a result of our deliberations but not final discussion Ricky if you don't mind ordinal rate Tampa so where we are now without further discussion including the updates that we've made thus far this is where we stand the the Board of Finance budget according to last year's or the budget cycle that word right now obviously the biggest percent change is the decrease in that contingency so much now if we are ready to explore Dan's ideas I would like to first answer any questions anyone has or any comments and what we're looking at here then we could move into a further discussion according to it okay so does anyone have any any questions or need additional explanation on this page I do have a question and that has to do with where on this page the cash portion of the capital budget cap shows X financing okay that's the one three five one one three five one oh wait oh so I'm looking at the capital funding page but I didn't update it for right so I'm so okay so it could go to the expenditure gap just - yep so like down to line 390 or something Capital Improvements that number should go through yep it doesn't right okay so that so now go back to the mill rated page so when we're looking at talent in my mind we're looking at the town cash budget operations budget for the year it's a combination of the 18 7:03 10 operations plus the 1 3 5 1 capital projects that's the way I think I know it's but that's the way and that kind so so can you total those two up okay 2.1 okay oh yeah very good okay that's exactly what I'm looking for so so that top bad combination is a two point one five percent increase over what those two pieces were last year which is different than the two seventy-five I had in my head I know that's you know no I know I just build in increase weight but right okay and for the sake of discussion and deliberation I don't want to hold things sacred so it was an idea that we have yep so my concept my thought was you know just just to bring up for discussion you know is that an increase that is acceptable that is justifiable on a high level basis so we did it all we did it piece by piece and now that we're looking at as line points out the almost finished cake is that a number that works for the sport to two percent to consider general just the general operations the reason any company that's to me that seems to me that seems fairly reasonable I mean I would be concerned if on the town side it was 5% or crazy dad absolutely you know school is obviously there's different circumstances there things that are out of control we've seen a lot of decreases in the budget as well as some increases but then we went through line by line and it be we've been nitpicking maybe luchador squeeze out but two grand if we take out 500 here 200 here maybe okay I think for the services we get in the town of two point one five percent increase on the town side is not not in control now we have the ultimate auditors as they're the voters in the town and I think that for us to scrape it just might pay that's just scrape out the 10,000 15,000 or 20,000 that maybe we can scrape painstakingly out of this is it a true exercise or I don't think I'm with Ricky I don't think 2.45 and we forced the hundred thousand mm-hmm right because of our policy you know that we're sticking to that's not added Steve's control I mean it is but it is and I mean he's following the guidelines is that really a huge increase can I bring up one more point this is still factoring in the full 20600 of wages above the few percent so Breyers think that's correct it's yep that's a good point when you really look at it of the so if you take a year on year what were ya what's the increase from back to that the 1863 four to 1895 four point seven - no a dollar-wise 320 they say 100,000 of it's enforced to give increase well yeah I know it's not the next line yeah yeah I agree yeah I'm not argument I think it's I brought up for discussion area I'm gonna see the numbers I'm in agreement with you guys so yes on the capital project slide on the 135 compared to the prior up a hundred seven hundred that's forced yep so it's really only a seven thousand increase from prior year right absolute numbers yes mm-hmm yeah it's hard to argue it really has a five really is what are we really gonna move that needle yep yeah I mean I'm okay with fine-tuning it a little bit but I mean to the point of I think it's almost at a point could be the voters voters decide I wanted I wanted to have this discussion and look at that number and I'm fine with the number if the voters think it's too much then we have to have this harder decision harder choice I mean very good everybody else's and then in here also is ruled in the education stuff that we talked about right is that rolled into this rolled into it how I don't know I'm asking that question you're the smaller guy no it's not the the reduction of 180,000 is essentially it's represented in these numbers because the seventy-nine thousand and the 16,000 they're not right so they come on the revenue side of the Board of Ed side they come in on the back side of the board of that revenue like the grant like the special ed grant they offset the cost I mean I'm not certain the technical representation we should make on that but it's it's offsetting the expenditures yes yes so technically what we're looking at is a four point one one percent increase of expenditures give me the state we made we're using the voice numbers and the special ed costs right so I know the big number the the 4.11 is our expenditures now go to the mill rate increase because that's not some correlating that would correct and I'll let you smart guys explain that one so the actual and John's very good at this is like a rock star the values of the mill rate right the proposed mill rate would go up from seven twenty seven point two nine to twenty eight point eight three are you able to engage yeah because we're only going up 4.11 on the expenditure side you have that yeah so you have that yeah that an elderly tax relief that we haven't done anything like a proposal from they say approval from the Board of Selectmen yep what our selections budget didn't I'd revenues to expenditures to yours yeah we can't go up if we went down we're balanced yeah you are maybe you maybe it's with some tweaking there were there was something thank him Oh silence there his the Board of Selectmen budgets 3.94 how do we get the four point one one he's not look the revenues don't balance with the expenditures you got it back into for the amount of money you're saying you but overall numbers I think you were makes more sense now yeah that's that's yep I made him accountable yeah so essentially it's a five point six four percent increase can you explain this the elderly tax relief last year altogether we looked at this we thought we were double counting it because there was not only tax or any in the budget it wasn't the same okay so what you have to do is determine all of your taxes you're needed revenue then you take them off that amount yep and it changes the end risks like this and this state mandated okay and what was proposed then by the Board of Selectmen was a little glitchy mechanically it was actually proposed by the Board of Selectmen was a low rate of 28.87 and when the Board of Finance has it in front of us now for the male rate of 28 point 83 we just last time about the selectmen proposal let's just make a point to scrub this harder next time okay [Music] I mean now you go back to the question the day a nest know yeah earlier is 5.64 palatable increase and how much is it per percentage now like if we wanted to move that needle 0.5% now but okay so the mill rate what we have in front of us the mill rate goes up to one point five four yeah now what does that work out - okay so leverage Joe what I did was I took the new mill rate of twenty eight point eight three and subtracted the old mill rate of twenty seven point two nine to come up with the same change that you guys have the increase in mill rate of one point five four so if you wanted to know a high level how that would equate to an increase in property taxes so using an assessed value of 270,000 dollars multiplied times zero point zero zero one five four you come up with a tax increase of $415 so I think you know if you wanted to know some real world information about how property taxes would be impacted but that's on an assessed and as soon as s value of 375 what I did to under set to assess me so the magic number is point zero zero one five I'm sorry wait yeah point zero zero one five four so that is your multiplier times your sss value yep do we know what the [Music] estimate yep 415 you Center 451 415 actual taxes bed so at the new so the old mill rate was seven thousand 368 the Nimmo rate would be seven thousand seven eighty four point zero zero one five four which you kind of already have into your spreadsheet so you just gotta and it's the same thing comes up at the five point six and that's the average home state well that's just a number I got just another barbecue remember I took as an assessed no I think our average price is between 350 okay I think the average I don't know that for a fact oh okay so the 415 seems in line with what's happened in previous years I've never had this what idea what I put on the bottom next are the bottom two cells right there mm-hmm is the increase from I would have to scroll up a little button eyes from 1677 yeah yeah yeah sorry double direct crease deep what is you gotta eat down there right go down to this Matheny almost doubled right so from for a date what's our top sorry so we're talking from from the 15 16 to 16 17 years we went up 0.71 from 16 17 - 17 18 we went up 5.8 so the proposal from 17 18 - 18 19 is 1.5 force and that not quite doable but yeah I mean I think and we were talking about this earlier I think for what we get as residents and taxpayers here currently is one hell of a deal and I think we've had we I think we've had it good for a very long time and it's my opinion only I'm not going to speak to the rest of the board members then I think you know a lot of this might be putting in some Corrections from the past you know we know that some folks are underpaid we have an unfortunate pickup them special ed you know but you're dropping grants a dropping I'm sure the Dryden is closed at the same yeah where we're putting in or we're trying to go back to less bonding more more cash payments for things so I'm of the opinion that this is a bit of a correction would I expect this to continue in the future no absolutely not unless we have more on foreseen circumstances but no one has a crystal ball you know I don't think collect could either I mosey on up to the table and suit we're gonna have another giant increase in special ed you know everybody just collect the evil eye you know yeah we have almost perfect storm of problems here yeah better hating us together it was just special that one year we'd still be a very reasonable it was just the state grant cuts we'd still probably have pretty reasonable to choose a gather really especially we've got to pay up we don't have a choice the grants we don't have control of those does anyone else have any thoughts on what's going on here before we and you know at our discretion it is almost ten fifteen before we explore any changes I'd like to go down that route I'd like to see a number that would move the needle a percentage or whatever take the things so in other words what what's it gonna take to get it from 4.1 one down to three nine say you're like are we look what kind of a number are we look at that because it if it's a huge number it's not let's talk about expenditures if we were to drop a hundred thousand in expenditures what's it gonna do what's its sensitivity that's a sensitivity that's do it so for you know just a built I think you can increase its range on you an increase in expenditures are technically balanced with an increase in taxes so if you just up your taxes by a hundred thousand that you'll see the way the way that this is a bill yeah you don't if you if you change the revenue if you change the expense when it doesn't automatically flow through the way this is built so you'd have to just change your revenue your taxes because if you look that is estimated tax receipts on row 38 is what's driving that milk out so it's just the mechanics of this spreadsheet that's all yeah I just want to add a honey or 100,000 and see what it does the text yeah he's gonna add it here but it's gonna reduce that okay to see what that is I mean you really got to get the real number so now you're talking to make this thing change it you're talking drastic yeah yes you know the job what is that equation so 1.5 1.5 what what change in the tax dollar doesn't mean it's like the tax and I think the other thing we need to keep in mind is you know when we've had these discussions no earlier on about up coming up big capital projects and you know this move for our capital funding to have more of an out of cash instead of bonding is to prepare us for the things that we know are inevitable or the the school's the vibrated police station so I think people need we need to remind yeah and we need we we can't avoid it I mean it has to happen that these projects will yes really pay more for cash I agree I mean if you took out the whole town increase yep it doesn't move the whole pound increase yeah and then to Dan's point the school is really I understand and I know I'm a big proponent of cutting things down is ninety two thousand dollars of which we're already saying we're gonna try to reduce some of that so there's not there's nothing but yeah yeah where's the ID - that was the danger to us with a number aborting hey I could have been wrong I thought it was about 90 - yeah you said it the actual dollar amount that's going to increase services enhance again I'm having a boy I don't know if we do more tonight you think about it and you come back we've gone through a lot Sean of numbers I mean the realistic point is we're not moving this needle a whole lot unless you're willing to make a $300,000 cut which is for Ricky says four hundred thousand which is going to be serious in that sense right here so exercise and a $400,000 cut those two movement right Bridget just down below 5% exactly it's still in my humper then yes right a hard number to swallow anyway I mean personally four hundred thousand I totally want to smell it made major changes cut I mean asked us to cut it boys yeah I mean we can go through it can we get thirty thousand out of this thing $40,000 than fifty thousand out of this thing I don't have an answer I mean I've seen doing at it you really looked at this you've got it looked at almost every single line you've looked at every single line on both sides of the budget the schools in it I don't think there's any fat in here I think you're cutting to the bone I think if people are watching this they're gonna see the care and consideration this board took and putting this budget together and I think we have to have a good presentation to the town and tell them why we are where we are and then I think if people trust us and believe that we're doing the right things I think they they would vote for this all right then I think we're it's stup if we're on tomorrow we're at Town Hall and we're off tomorrow the way the agendas are written then we're gonna update Thursday's agenda as we have some other business that we love John talked about 250 minutes yep forgot it and the audit does have factored into the budget so it is legit discussion for that caught it for Thursday anything else no it was just that there's they doing yes yes so I what up so just for the board members who weren't at the Audit Committee meeting with the auditor on Friday so on Friday morning the audit committee and members of town management and Board of Ed met with our audit partner and audit manager and they reviewed a draft of the kafir' which is basically the town audit with us so that that's a that's a thick document they can go through a page by page they also have a summary letter of findings in the audit summarizing the financial statements summarizing issues that were that were uncovered and we went through each of those in some detail it was about an hour meeting that we had with the auditor and with the whole group there were questions asked back and forth and the amount of committee sat with the auditors by themselves without management there to have other conversations so I received today final drafts of all that stuff I've been through the capper word for word every word I don't expect the next 48 hours anybody else to do that but what I'm going to be doing is sending tomorrow morning the whole Board of Finance copies of the capper copies of the letter transmittal letter still isn't quite finished yet yeah we're updating a couple things based on comments right we'll have that done tomorrow morning okay so I'm going to send all that out to the board with with a summary document of what was discussed at that meeting and then on Thursday I'd like 15 minutes of time that might be a lot to to walk through what we discussed and having the rest of the board be able to ask the Audit Committee and myself questions because we as a board need to adopt that that audit on Thursday because our extension for the audit to be filed with the state is on Friday and so it's gonna be filed on Friday so it has to be done so I'm gonna send all that information I would I'd like you to read kind of my summary and the the summary letter I don't expect you to read the hundred page kafir in the next 48 hours but but over time you probably didn't get be a good exercise how its conducted and its timing with the budget they are very related event this time we will have our audit and delivered and published with the state before our budget goes to it which is closed before ok so yes tomorrow if we have our meeting will be at Town Hall if not Thursday will be here Media Center the next big event after Thursday is April 3rd we have the Board of Finance public hearing on this the Board of Finance draft of the budget that'll be the next big thing what is the don't has their town meeting I'm a capital that's March 29th right so make sure to Tuesday's the school that's usually not a really long eating's because really what it's doing is setting the referendum day okay that's all this and then you open then the Board of Finance presentation to the entire town as well operating capital and schools can we typically invite the schools at least for the last two years the schools will participate usually here nothing I'll make a motion that we adjourn a second all those in favor gave us no [Music]
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[Music] okay vidya min everybody today is Thursday to March 22nd when I called this special meeting of the before to finance to order prevalent please join me for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all seen no members of the public here with us tonight we will move into new business the chair of the board of finance audit subcommittee will now walk us through a presentation the 2016-17 brookfield consolidated annual financial report thank you very much so earlier this week I emailed to the board draft copies of the the kafir' as Shaun described as well as some accompanying materials summarizing the results and I passed out a couple things to the table that we're going to be going through last Friday as I mentioned the other day the board of Finance the Audit Committee I'm sorry met with the auditor the audit partner of the allotted manager as well as other members of town management to review this and we ask questions and I'm going to summarize the discussion that we had so I'll begin with the agenda the first thing you have that talks about the summary of the work done and the summary the results so just to begin the audit any audit really is not a complete assurance of 100% accuracy of every statement what I thought it is is based upon professionally agreed upon procedures and statistical samples it's a reasonable assurance that the statements that are being presented a materially represent a fair representation of the financial position of the of the town and that's what that's what the audit represents so I just want to personally make that clear so what the owner is did that the work they conducted via the engagement letter was they did the financial statement audit they presented a federal and state single audit which what that is is some required audit procedures for municipalities that take federal and state grant money so they did that work they also provided some non-owners in terms of accounting work and things like that some of it was was predetermined but they had also based upon some of the audit work that was done I realized that they had to do some year-end adjustments to work then I was outside of the normal scope of what an auditor would generally do and we'll discuss that in a little bit couple of minutes so that was the scope of the work so the results first and foremost the most important result was that they they offered an unmodified clean opinion on the financial statements that's the most important thing what that means is that with reasonable assurance they are telling the board and therefore the town that the financial statements do in fact with no reservations reasonable reservations represent a fair statement of town finances so that that's the most important thing you want to get out of an audit is that clean opinion and we were able to get that so that that's very good the second piece however is regards the control procedures and the control policies and the control activities and shoe produced those results and they did find some issues in in that that we need to discuss so while the state wild while the end result of the statements were positive and clean the process to create those statements have issues that the town is going to need to chew so to reconcile and so we've talked about these in the past that so there's there's material weaknesses and material to fit in significant efficiencies material weaknesses is more severe than a significant deficiency it's important to note that none of the none of the things that were found were found two to two at the end of the day affect the financial statements but the process to create them so the first thing I want to if we go down to the second document that I did I talked about that I handed out will turn to page 9 and we'll just briefly go through what the what was found as weaknesses and what is being done to address those weaknesses the first issue has to do with bank reconciliations we talked about this in the past well actually the first the first overriding overriding weakness is in the closing process and despite the efforts that have been made over the past year or the year prior to this audit where closings were not done really at all so there has been progress however despite those efforts in the year ending June 30 17 there was still material weakness in the closing of the books that need to be addressed the auditors presented a series of recommendations two or three of them in general it's a combination of implementing process following those processes and training personnel to to either understand what what the what the what the roles is or to perform them so those are activities that have been that have already started to be could be implemented and will continually implement it for this coming on it and going forward it's incumbent upon the Audit Committee and the Board of Finance to manage that we are we are ultimately responsible for the audit and to manage the proper financial status of the town so it's our job to make sure that the processes that are being put in place aren't even followed and that's something we'll be doing so as we talk to them specifically that the the the two issues that that caused that materially good weakness are in the significant efficiencies the bank reconciliation process which again something that's been talked about at this board and prior boards for a while I believe there's been improvement in that but there's still still weaknesses in improperly following policies and procedures to make sure bank reconciliations which is basically a monthly balancing of the town's checkbook to have that be done properly again a combination of implementing policies and training employees will be required to to alleviate that my hope is that the next daughter will see improvement on that and then the other deficiency that was discussed was the tracking of the capital projects we've talked about this at this board a lot current projects even dating back a year or so are being accounted for quite well the the deficiency comes in some of the past accounting which is still still being rectified so I don't think that's that I think that's being handled pretty well so so those are those are the details of the deficiencies but I want to I want to reiterate and state effects that's in all material specs the financial statements are accurate and they are clean so that's that's that's a good thing all right well going back to the agenda just some specifics on the financial statements that we need to point out most of which are very positive first one is the change in the general fund balance we talked about this on Tuesday night but in specifics for the year end of 630 2017 the general fund increased by a little bit over 1.1 million dollars that is a very good thing state the obvious that the cause of that was because revenues exceeded the budget and expenses we're less than budget for it for that that particular year the source of that fund increase comes from a number of different sources revenues were higher by about $64,000 that was that was from a combination of a number of different sources none truly significant and then it was offset by an inter government transfer so the revenues exceeded budget by $64,000 the expenditures on the town side expenditures were six hundred and five thousand six oh four eight ninety to be exact less than budget for the year the two major under budgeted are two major items that came in under budget was a two hundred thirty three thousand dollar in HR and I think that was from from a delay or lack of our not hiring if they were budgeted and then there was two hundred thirty five thousand dollars a debt service less than budget and that just is what it is right yeah there are some operational issues with a journal entry really cause that this was trued up by the auditors we realize where the GL need to be and the adjustment was made and thankfully it was in a direction that right okay on the board of ed side there was a $79,000 under spend to budget which went to that general fund but as we as we've discussed is going to be utilized as part of the process going forward on this around the school so that that's that it's good that that was there and then there is other financing sources that were they were under budget or that assisted there was some bod premium that were accounted for as well as some transfers so that that accounted for the 1.1 million dollar general holding increase general fund is very important it's the you know the equity balance and in undertown books just like your home equity or anything like that so it's it's excellent at five at five point five three million dollars at six thirty 2017 that represents eight point one percent of the expenditures for that year that's a healthy number it's not an ideal number but it's a healthy number the goal of I know Steve's and I share the goal is to grow that percentage to ten percent of expenditures so if you do the math the total budget is somewhere between 65 and 70 million dollars so you need to get that 5.5 up to 6.5 to 7 so that would be about a 1.5 million dollar additional increase to hit that goal obviously I don't think that'll be hit in a single year I hope that that's even with this lean budget we're gonna we're gonna see some some efficiencies and and be able to add to that balance during the course of this this fiscal year I purposely here but that remains to be seen there were that the auditors did discuss some of the fund balances three of them in particular that that are on their list the bonded projects fund has a deficit of eighteen point four million dollars but that's that's all properly funded with the short-term debt that we currently have so that's that's that made perfect sense it's not really deficit someone fill up see exactly thank you Shawn there was the issue with the police cars which we've discussed earlier this week one hundred twenty two thousand two hundred fifty dollars in that capital and non-recurring fund that needs to be filled and will likely be filled from the from the available balance that Kimberly identified as of words of three million dollars will be transferred in and then there is a thirty thousand dollar deficit in the educational programs fund which is a combination of several things over prior years and quite honestly still being researched by by the Board of Ed as to the causative effect of that not particularly material the auditor did go through the pension the town's pension liability as well because it's it's a very important thing I'll summarize everything by just saying that the pension pension plan for the town is in is in healthy shape it's in quite healthy shape I was pleased with that and it's well managed by the by the are back to make who meets regularly so with that that's the summary of the of the capper you all have a copy of the whole thing which as responsible with board members we should read but on the this summary I think highlights the key issues so if anybody has any questions for me or any of that other number of the audit committee please shoot that was part of the part of the discussion last Friday so where I would normally have questions or comments they were addressed in that meeting I don't have anything further we're comfortable with the results and I think you didn't look how other job of presenting it thank you thank it was very thorough very come here you know I I have to say having this this is the third budget and financials that we've had audited my honey save all did an incredible job much more in-depth much more careful they literally had three and four people at our offices for about fifteen days and I've incredibly impressed so I'm very comfortable with the work they did III group that the conversations the Audit Committee has had weekly conversations with the with the audit partner since the beginning of February he's kept us up to speed identified issues identified successes been very open it's been a good process yes I agree so if that I guess I'll make the motion that the Board of Finance approved the 2016-2017 counted Pro field capper as as presented today second any further discussion that's been presented if anyone had a chance to read through that lengthy document there's any questions on it whatsoever here no further discussion or is there anything that no I'm fine you know as Dan said we were immediately in this process will result some deficiencies we've already put policies and procedures in place to make sure that those are corrected including oversight controller actually going in looking at some of these doing the trial balances doing some of the recs themselves because I have to be honest I'm unhappy and not unhappy I'm very upset with some of these findings because we've been working really hard did make sure we don't have any findings and I commit to you that we will not have those [Music] commitments so the county is required to draft and file corrective action memos for each of the findings and those are those are supposed to their details not just you will handle it but how we will handle and who's responsible for handling and who's responsible for making sure it gets handled and so those will be violated in divorce and job within the next week or so we've already started working on it and to follow up we've talked with the auditors about maybe doing a midterm checked up and see where that was discussed in our audit committee between Shawn dan and myself - maybe draft a small scope of the auditors to come in in the next few months to make sure they were on track with the policies that are in place and they're being implemented so we don't find ourselves that the process just and it's not like we doubt it is just to help bridge it into the next so we had a conversation between the three of us that this is something we would discuss as a board after the budget process that we would want to do it would be an expensive high-dollar thing but a small dollar just to make sure we're on track right with me so we're looking to close up I know you work but we want to make sure it's closed up to the auditors expectations so we don't have a problem I agree with you 100 times we know any surprises if they can come in and look at what we're doing to say we've implemented a new policy some seizures are they working they can do that pretty quick pull some of our funds pull them up reconcile them say yep it's working and it won't be an incredible amount and then part of this scope was and I'm just as on it is we would have them look at some of the Board of Ed stuff and not as a check up but because they've new to munis they're new to entering some Dana so to make sure that the data that's going in is valid they're doing what they think is right I'm not saying they're maliciously but sometimes when you do what you think is right it's not right so we want to make sure that it all stacks and a nice this is sometimes the the intent is right but the journal entry is not quite correct that we want to prevent that from growing Micheal Mahoney's able the partner did say that that's while you didn't not minimizing the deficiencies here at all because they are they are important but but we're not unique and there have been towns that have had more material deficiencies that follow recommendations and over a period of not too long gets to completely clean following so so fun these processes so that's that's my personal goal I have four years here and you know I hope it doesn't take four years to get clean I agree I just want to elaborate on one of one of Dan's comments for the board if you're curious about the actual fund balance number that all the rating agencies are looking at so when Dan says general fund but he's really referring to the unassigned fund balance so if you look at page 19 which is the town's balance sheet that's the number that to three years from now if you ever want to pick up a Kaffir do you want to say what's our general fund owns what's our unassigned fund balance you're gonna be one of looking at the balance sheet so page 19 yes yeah in the bottom left you have your fund balances so they're different types of fund balances but the one that we're really concerned with is the unassigned fund balance so just to navigate around the financial statements [Music] they have the full big bumper yeah that's how you know that's it I didn't print it out well we've had 12 by the auditors the two main pages of the full big book is 19 to 23 page 19 at page 23 yep well when when this when this capper does get published in its final format there is a lot of material in here that if someone does take the time to read through they would learn they need not reading about our town the makeup and the demographics the goals statements before where we are now age 19 being the balance sheet in page 21 being the P&L statement income statement so it's a lot of good information here's a lot of statistical data that's required to be submitted to the state but overall it's a very interesting document reputed to that sort of it Kimberly is on the phone did you have anything that you wanted to add or are you generally good unmute please okay No thank you very much for for being available for this we appreciate it okay thank you okay so hearing is there any other round of discussion okay hearing no further discussion all those in favor of the motion on the table to approve the 2016-17 town of Brookfield Kaffir as presented this evening indicate by saying aye all right aye motion carries six own thank you thank you thanks trapped in Kimberly I'm going to hang up on you now [Music] all right let's get into the other fun stuff [Music] last night we took a quick opportunity to get together and go over some semi final budget deliberations before tonight make sure that anything that was on anybody's mind they had a chance to speak their part voiced their concerns have questions Aspen or ask questions and have them answered and then we took the night to stew and everything that we went over and so tonight we have a chance to take a final look Fraze any final questions comments or concerns and anything in the latest file that I sent around we didn't make any changes last night so the file I sent out Wednesday night would still be the latest and greatest here at leap a so Steve Rickey if you don't so may I open the floor for discussion on the 1819 budget flip to that first page [Music] last night but I'm just wondering for the benefit of the taxpayers can Steve can you do it just a brief outline of those grants that have been impacted because I know there is a lot of money that has been pulled from the states do an overview dude I'm sorry I'm a little just the the grants that have been impacted I think it's helpful for the taxpayers knowing that we've had these deficits and that's part of what's weighing in - how are ya we're still waiting for final word from the state as to what the grants are going to be yes um I talked to Collette's term and Ken post today they did get eight hundred and eighty thousand of their EGS grant so that's usually 75 percent so that's right on target what they want 680 but I think it was 680 but there's still 75% there are still 75 there's 75 percent I don't think is that high but I said there are on target yeah and I saw a new Millford got a whack on that yes so that's very good usually because they do their calculations in December January then issue the jack and so the calculations don't change that we should get that so we're on target for every grant right we're getting this year the problem we have is next year okay that this board has had as long discussions as to which numbers we should use and every way there's no wrong answer there's a little more conservative answer and use Malloy's number or you could use the current actual published legislature numbers and I think this board has made a determination to change the numbers we use the Board of Selectmen use the actual publish this is what you're getting from the legislature it's I don't disagree with taking a little more conservative number but people should realize that pushes up your budget for next year it does in the percentages so it can where that if we get that money then you will have more room in the budget to your question yeah absolutely so can we just list those that are somewhat nebulous because we don't know how it's going to land in Hartford so the ECS grant we don't know how they're going to calculate it going forward right that's no we know the EECS is a straight number it's a straight number then they it's the other grant the board of a a special ed Board of Ed grant is a calculated number oh okay so that's the one that we're not sure how it's going to fall out right even ECS is a calculated number yes but part can look into Milford it got hit so I've got a feeling that they have a formula that tends to be a little fluid well I guess is the best way to put it I'm absolutely comfortable with Malloy's numbers because those are on the low end of what the grants will be I think there will be higher you know when talking to Steve Harding I think a couple guys here you talk to Steve Hardy he doesn't believe Malloy's numbers are gonna fly the Legislature's not going to do that so it will be somewhere above Malloy's it might be below the legislators numbers okay and then on the town side the other area that we may lose money or going to be closed down as the Transportation Fund right the State Transportation Fund that had given us money for road development that's also dried up you mentioned no the 10 Road Aid I think we're still gonna get that okay right that comes from the legislature I think in talking to Jim Redick or I met with him a couple weeks ago the state's transportation fund has zero money in it yep and he has about four billion dollars worth of projects that he wants to do some one of them big one in Brookfield you know doing from kalilas all the way down to BJ's for the streetscape yes right that project the design is still going forward but the fundings not there so that's what the state legislature has to come up with how are they going to fund it now they're looking at tolls they're looking at gas tax they're looking at a number of different ways to raise money for the State Transportation Fund I don't think anyone would argue that the infrastructure we are like number 40 something equality of our infrastructure the state of Connecticut out of all the states so we can't ignore this the only thing that will affect us though would be I believe that if they really don't get the funding they want they're gonna they would push projects back right they still have those projects on the books but they have to determine how they're going to raise the revenue to cover them right okay here's the good part about this the lower federal road project is partially funded with federal funds that protects us believe it or not yes the state can't simply pull their funds they can delay delay implementation but they can't pull a project right now because they're getting federal money yet you have to push it through right okay so those two we have are there any others that are impacted that we are not sure how they're going to play out with a new governor or whatever it is decided in Hartford yes for the streetscape projects where we're going with phase 2 phase 3 and phase 4 we had planned to apply for lots of Llosa and cap grants because taps are still available but those could be effective you know they say okay lots of this year is down a hundred thousand right exactly so we'll know when we actually make the applications and they tell us what kind of funding we know what we get lots it blows it but the tap grants are still available that's what we use the phase in Phase two so that should be pretty good okay good there are any others that I just want them to be aware of it because when they look at our budget numbers they they must realize that we are factoring that in we are constantly on the lookout for Graham constantly one of the things we're going to be doing and we've already started it is that every single grant that we have in town is all of the documentation is being delivered for those grants to the finance department so we have central record-keeping we're gonna let people continue to administer the grants because Public Works knows your grants and Greg Dombrowski knows the grants or a streetscape we're gonna have a second oversight while that will be in finance because every grant has very specific requirements and if you do not meet those requirements to the letter they will not give you the money we have that problem with a high school remember we fought with them for ten years we never want to have that problem again so we've already started to do that I bought a new program to track capital projects the auditor had said for the last two years we're doing a great job of managing our capital projects we know what they are then we know its costs we're tracking them well it's prior to that where we didn't have quite the documentation that they would like to see then we don't we don't want that situation so we're even going back and looking at those because we don't want this finding in the future if we don't get that pretty clean we can have this finding even for something to happen 8 years ago right now all your projects have a unique code so you're mapping vaccinate codes we're tracking all we're using a capital projects model we're tracking all revenues and all expenses by project and revenues our town money grant money all of those things and they're attached to the projects and we're closing these projects out you know actually having a formal closed because then we go to the state fought it for some of these and the state by law and regulation only gives you one audit on the high school we were able to get four different audits that's unheard of usually to give you one on it that's it that's the number you screwed up you don't get the money so it's critical to have it exact I think that's very helpful for that for the people listening in and for the voters to understand that so thank you so I have another topic that when I bring up again and I know it's a small dollar amount related to the whole budget but I want to talk about the seller is oh my god and specifically the ones that are greater than the 2% and I thought about this last night and yes the number that we're talking about the dollar amount is not huge but it's it's a budget to me and that was more than immunity yes it's that it's the math world map of the pound it's all of that but it's also a statement of other values and priorities and at twenty thousand dollars there's projects that we cut in that same dollar range projects for the for the police projects for Parks and Rec projects for school that are a similar or less dollar house so basically what we're saying but is that the outsized raises in combination are more important than any of those individual projects I don't think that's a statement that we're saying or that we really believe and it's a it's a point of view that I think is important I think it's one that that that's you know anybody who's going to be looking this budget wants to poke holes that's an obvious Adrian football that's not the reason to change anything but I think it's important but to me those those outside raises still remain to five and it's because would we rather do the material within we'd rather do the playground repair or rather do the imaging cameras all of those are less than the and the dollar amount of the rage motel so I would like to revisit some way to reuse those I emailed a suggestion which again is not big dollar amounts but of removing the town clerk from the from the list because of time timing service only and taking a percentage of the rest and applying that to the mystify the village do those I'm gonna read the closer you know as we go through this process you guys have discussions back and forth and you know I was dead set against putting incident command vehicles in either in the fire departments one fire department has a seven-year-old vehicle it runs fine there's no problems with it and they want a new vehicle the average age of the town vehicles is something like 12 to 13 years so I think they could have lived with that for a few more years also we get our police cars they rolled off three to four every single year I think it needs a new command vehicle that's a beautiful second life they already alight they have the sirens you know very inexpensive to transfer them over but we made a decision to buy two new incident command vehicles that's one hundred and twenty thousand ten thousand dollars so in the big scheme of things when you look at this we have an obligation to do what we think is right by both our people and the town for our employees they have over the years our non-union employees have been behind the eight ball because we've often negotiated with our police dispatchers with our police and with well CSEA we're looking at them and probably the increases we're going to be going and settling and arbitrating four are going to be more than two percent the non-union employees in the town have been getting two percent every year for as far back as I can see even though the unions were getting more some they've been every year they walling behind I think it's time for those extraordinary employees and I can see your point on the town clerk and you know what I grant you your point right new employee I'm fine with that right but for the other ones I really would ask this board to let me do my job and let me manage it I'm not asking for an outrageous sum of money um we're gonna be hiring a new Parks and Rec director we're going to be saving I think a lot of money there I don't want to get into details because we're still in discussing it but my overall budget is gonna be very reasonable right about two percent across the board even with these raises and I think it's reasonable so I ask you to give me the money to rework to give to those employees who have done a really good job I think what's also significant is that the particular departments that are related to the request I think our men buy either one or two people so you have to remember that if it's a small department like that those folks are really carrying a heavy load because there's no enough they're sharing their duties with and it's quite different than other departments where we have a lot of manpower to use the wrong word manpower a lot of people power so I think given that consideration and that those particular jobs like Steve said may wind up getting overlooked because they're not represented by union and it's not that type of negotiation I think it is definitely worth considering considering who those people are the roles that they play in the depart it's that they're in and the the level of work and commitment and overtime that goes into it last year we granted about seven of these as well this year were nasty grant six how many we granting next year how many we granting every year going forward this is you know I'll like it into the NFL you only get to choose one player that you put into that contract called your franchise player and I know it's not the NFL I know it's not a game and I know it's real of people's lives don't get me wrong but and I asked you last year and I know it was busy time to rate your play rate your staff and you know you should have a tough 5% you should have a bottom 5% we should understand that in this pay raise process everybody can't get a 5 on a review I do that but I do not do it in writing it's fo hypo I am NOT going to put something on paper I'm just upset I don't want to do they purr but now I'm saying I don't want to see it I'm just saying but I think that again you lost me on the town clerk position this year totally because it's a new position and I see your point that totally like through wind at it I think anytime you get up over 10 percent out of pay raise to without it's just a number that is a hard number to swallow and and I get catch ups but usually catch ups are done in stages when you're trying to catch up on an employee and I think the other ones are around 5% right I mean that's right I think it's just too much that's my so I liked your calculation Dan that you made I liked it I saw what you did and that you that you've multiplied it by the two-thirds factor that we talked about yes so if we were to decide on that amount and rounded it to 13,000 does does that focus the the First Selectman does does he then have discretion as to how to allocate those funds and then we can track back on upon the budget next year to see how it was allocated is that how it works see that you can take a lump sum and allocate it according to your discretion yes and no technically no okay because I the Board of Selectmen is not allowed to move money outside of any department to another department if you put that money in contingency then we could make the motion to move money from contingency to line-x in this budget and mine X in that line okay right there are ways to do it but we have to go through the process departments Oh we'd have to go oh okay so that's apartments make essentially make their reductions I'm very uncomfortable with you guys deciding how much money that my deployments over like do it okay but if you know I don't think that is our job though we're not we're not the managers we don't we don't work with them we don't see the quality of the product that they produce Steve does so it's summer so you do have to trust the manager with those aspects of his job um yeah it's unsettling to see 13 percent raise for someone given the circumstances I understand it especially if it's someone that you definitely don't want to lose and new things that somebody who is critical to it I think what did lose us was the town clerk I seen that point all the other ones cool them again I mean and again here that's how you're the manager you it's it's up to you to kind of decide that and knowing that you were able to in a sense recoup that in other areas which we can within the same bucket oh yeah salary nicely a little bit more comfortable I think the point on the town clerk is is a good one it's a valid one right my goal there was we didn't raise the town clerk's salary at all last year right everybody else got we didn't move it because we didn't have a town clerk she had retired so we just left it where it was it didn't seem to make sense increase it two percent for right so if you looked at those both that's what's my thinking there I agree with you I see that's a very valid point on the downward then we leave that where it is we have to go through the expenditures and adjust that line you can't on this on the town side you can't just say some place because then it's certain because then his process of going through it will be camel things it would be a saloon of work you could do it but it'd be a lot of work right State Board of Selectmen coming to the point of Mancini this is if this is the way you want to go gonna have to code through the department's that were identified and go line by line that is that's how this side of the budget oh yeah good we can be my people it's five five lines is it crazy to make a motion like could we just go first it just fell on whether or not we even want to make a change on each of those people rather than they have to go through everything first or perhaps vote on the dollar amount of allowance that we I know Eileen you weighed in when you saw advance let's start with whether or not we even want to make a change because I think there's some yes some knows there it's all yes then we go through it because I get a number okay fair enough all right all those in favor looking at the salaries with the intent to make reductions indicate by saying hi so that's that's an animal go ahead do we want to simplify it I'm not suggesting I'm just saying do we want to simplify it the two majors for me and there's only really two majors so okay I mean the other ones I can see is if we drop the town clerk position down to the 2% and we took the town admin to a 10% promotional type of the raise senior type of thing it's just I know it's semantics I know it's a very few dollars but I can then deal with the rest of the pay raises this is we're gonna need for though I got a calculated number what I'm saying is we take those two line that's the 2% you take the town clerk the 2% on the line item right and exact we could change now and we can may probably agree on that and then I'll be honest with you I don't like big pay raises I'm not a big fan but I do it as your own I do know that it does a lot of work right and I do the 13 I think is beyond even promotional type of a pay raise you know 10% I'm willing to listen to suggestions and the other ones were in the ranges of almost get you down than at 2/3 when we get to that point I mean we're almost at the where you're around them if we do that so I think then the other ones without painstakingly changing out we allow Steve the manager so I don't I just my suggestions may keep it as easy so if we take the race for the town administrator to 8,000 we're going to clone clerk out sorry 10% would be six thousand two hundred seven so it'd be sixty eight to eighty one point five five is ten percent okay am I looking at there I had a salary of sixty 207 for that was that was budgeted I guess and that means I'm just having it in line with promotional okay senior admin so yeah so that represents a savings of three thousand seven ninety three from the attacker brings five and that brings us pretty near the number Danna you were looking at right that would be a lot easier I agree but I mean I'm open for other suggestions I was just doesn't seem equitable from Steve's perspective than well that's it I mean okay I think it was some also appears that though he's pitching a budget it's our decision yes right so let's correct feels is fair and equitable all due respect is irrelevant in this situation no no I mean in terms of how it's going to affect the other people that work that's my job to manage yeah okay Sean is right okay you can answer my input here but it is very difficult okay okay so we're saving the thirty seven ninety three and then how much is it for the time Oh clerk that's even more than dance did you calculate this thing without that fortunately some snow pointer scales was a reduction of 6s yeah so yes we're gonna be about the city that's about $5,000 can you plug that one in Turkey if you don't mind it's not gonna change maybe needles I know it's not it's there's some of its optics some of its you know like I said values and priorities of a budget which you took you took that 1718 budget number that was in there and that's your 10 percent that's a jerk-off yeah the 62 calm Jeff yep do you ever you ever change percentages proper cutlet that's a change from partselect I'm like so bring that again stuff [Music] sixty-two again an original I wanna drag that formula and back up again particular the the lines where there is some relation victims whatever since we've gone ahead and decided we were going to look at this we have now non-union wages and the selectmen office budget at a 10% increase for the reasons stated all those in favor of making that change indicate by saying hi I how all those opposed thank you motion carries or though is not emotional I just told you it's important to have it what's almost lotion next what we have for the note and then that you have MS eight you may want to note be not born felt that 10% was more reasonable oh yeah over what touch it yeah I think that was I think that was the general consensus right that those are the kinds of things I want to leave in here so with Oliver literally this is okay the next one resetting the the town clerk elected officials salary at a 2% increase okay which was a reduction from the Board of Selectmen proposed budget on 1120 all those in favor indicate by saying aye aye okay six help or reasonable so that does that satisfy them making them the changes on those two does that satisfy everyone oh okay I think that are asked are there any are there any additional changes anyone would like to discuss you can take a quick look to make sure but I don't think any of them where they were all around the gentleman basic merit increase right two percent a little bit high when I did Steve said he can justify them to the point of Merit races [Music] any further discussion you know there's none it's fine it falls sort of it's basically where you're at that's my little bit it's not yet that's fine that's fine all right then that concludes never discuss it again before we move finally tonight but that concludes that salaries over 2% discussion for now so let's go department by Department I think that could be very quick and if there are no changes that will be inherent or if there's no discussion we can assume that everyone's okay I don't think we need to necessarily move on that there's no one okay cuz we move on minds don't like any further discussion on the selected office budget any further discussion on the town clerk's but it any further discussion on the registrar's budget any further discussion on land-use planning budget which includes planning and zoning and for the discussion on land-use building the market budget a further discussion on land use the fire marshal budget any further discussion on land use health department budget [Music] any discussion on the community development budget any further discussion on the conservation community pleasure any further discussion on the historical district budgets any further discussion on the Gursky Commission budget any further discussion when the assessor's office budget chessmen is a lot quicker than two hours less and far more robust any currently discussion that's usually tax collectors budget any further discussion on the controller's office budget any further discussion on the finance budget on the assessor's office work leads to fantasies in flight which has freebie paragraphs you know we put in we took it out as overtime when Canada in and seasonal it's just a redirection alone to another way yeah yeah you had mentioned that it was better served in that account they don't question on the controllers office okay um with regards to the the kafir and those comments is is there any what will any of the changes necessary for RIA counting and that have an impact on personnel like need for personnel any attempts coming in or something that's not budgeted in here and the audit services the extra audit services that we that Glenn referenced we kind of built into the discussion from from the other night other the reallocation of the order for a lot of fee okay just like to make sure yeah to the question I think you're just reviewing the whole process anyway right Steve I mean you just put your new policies in place that your whole your reassessing every aspect of it I mean am i speaking about a school or another we're going back and we're redoing every single bank reconciliation starting in July we're not gonna have this again we're now and you look at a job where is everything really looking at the whole correct gambit of the whole office correct correct so then we just got to support you and what you do on that aspect of it thank you what has or finance any further discussion on the Board of Finance budget for the discussion on board of assessment Department pleasure sorry further discussion of the economic development budget any further discussion on the personnel or human resources attending I want to go back to the economic development now there's a different budget process can we get her to come in and talk to us for meeting one time - sure yeah we haven't had Betsy con any of our meetings really she was here when the position was her first though created yeah after that you're right we haven't had any updates and then II loved to do that and it's not the thing if she's doing something wrong it's just a lot of us don't know even what she's doing what accomplishments I know you speak lessons and things and I just say I'd be nice to have her come why don't ever come to your next meeting okay I just said I'd like to have you home to a meeting just a lot of people are this streetscapes and everything else and the new businesses are start to see the building what's coming I think it'd do us all good to have her I think you you'll be very impressed in what she's doing as I'm saying I mean I know you speak would it be nice to have her sure and speak to it for 20 minutes will do yeah sorry I just know while it's in your head rezoning for the discussion on personnel or HR budget workers comp that five and a half percent increase for workers comp is echoed absolutely yeah they came in and sat down with us and went over every single line item Muslim a flat the Corcoran's comp enough five percent any further discussion on the information technology department budget any further discussion on the legal budget you know Steve I did want to ask you a question be hopeful I have mentioned to me that their attorney there's no standing but you said there's no standing retainer but they do it hourly have we checked into that or when was the last time that we went out to to bid on town attorney services me because we say that for every single service that we can write when was the last time we just change order I think he's done a bad job that's a question my goal of spring is to go out to RFP for bond counsel financial adviser and legal counsel not say Tom Peters then done an excellent job for our town but every three or four years you need to just go out and level set the market make sure you're paying fair rates for the services you get is there a reason why we don't combine the school and the town is there like a legal reason or um well we the schools in the town both use the same layer labor lawyer Pat McHale and he's probably primarily he does all of their work his firm does almost all of their work we use Tom feature for the town it's two separate beasts and a lot of their issues are really labor related with 535 employees I believe so you know we've talked about that but I don't see a lot of crossover in the need you I don't and I would yeah and Tom it's not a labor lawyer and you really need a labor lawyer specific okay any further discussion on the legal counsel Department further discussion on social services any further discussion on the Senior Center budget any further discussion on community grants any further discussion on parks and recreation subject sorry I'm up on that grants the calculation wrote in column ours therefore the Newtown Parent Connection not getting up they're not oh it is oh there was no year for year from last year sorry I saw the air just time to make sure I think something we can definitely will definitely brush up the formulas okay and whatnot for that so it'll be a zero okay now with that fancy schmancy yes spreadsheets anything even the dev oh yes okay any further discussion on parks and recreation but it affair did we get the numbers can we add that to maybe another meeting yes it is I started to get the numbers with date use we used muna so we all say also use an accounting system yeah that's meant for Parks and Rec and getting the two to reconcile yeah no I don't think anything's going on but they'll give us a massive deposit which represents a certain amount of revenue on their side so we criminally gets back and we're gonna match them up for you we do that today bleating yeah [Music] today further especially on the town round budget any further discussion on the Arts Commission budget any further discussion on the public safety budget make sure we let you know from the traffic service grants [Music] that we did increase that number and it's offset [Music] yeah I have it any caption then the other banana tip yes just make sure you copy over the copy over the note in there concerning further discussion on public safety budget thank for the discussions on the center fire department budget any further discussion on the EMS budget further discussion on the Candlewood fire department budget and further discussion on the civil defense budget any further discussion on the public works budget so a straight character in front of actor [Music] any further discussion on the highway department was that sugar Jean can we just back up a second on the Homeland Security item Steve is that something that's reimbursed at all on a federal level or it isn't now no this is for Colin's barriers replacement gear that wears out over time we didn't put anything in last year and J Purcell asked me if we could this year so we do like the Memorial Day parade putting everything out that we do they just for public sleep any further discussion on town building less maintenance any further discussion on town utilities budget if it highlighted their vehicle fuel to me the question I think was about the electric were supposed to get an actual on the electric and see if that numbers in line that number is in line we did a review of it and it is absolutely in line remember one of the things we've got new cattigan lighting we've got the street lighting in the new downtown we are switching over like we switched over the town hall parking lots today and yesterday to LED so there's a few moving parts there and but I vetted that number and it's a good number plus rates are going up and we anticipate a five to eight percent increase we're trying to lock in their grants available to the town for the switching over to led yeah we got a ten thousand dollar grant it's paying for all of it great on the same subject if I could just think so I don't forget it we had a company come in called ECG and they did a full audit of all of our buildings and they presented a proposal to us yesterday where the overall savings to the town over 15 years will be 2.3 million dollars they do not charge the town anything to do this what we do is we hire an e cos an energy conservation and operating company and they come in and do all the changes and switches the lights that pumps whatever but eCos monitors looks over it and then the eCos pays that I might talk to Collette's term about it and what we're gonna do is wait till we're not gonna do anything until we know what we want to do the schools I don't want to go retrofit a school and in have to take it out in two years but it seems like it's a really good plan and and once we have that I'll get that to you guys because it's pretty interesting when we decide to move forward with that I think it's a win across the board what was that savings estimate against T about 2.3 million dollars total savings over over 15 years and the nice thing about it is that we would have an investment of about 1.2 million dollars I believe but the energy company guarantees savings to us and if we don't achieve those savings they write us a check and it paint the system pays for itself and you save money plus you do nicer things for the environment hug a tree we satisfied with the time utilities budget I can see it I mean reminder it are we gonna get out of it 5,000 if we chop the top now we just gotta monitor it and understand better I think is right there has changes we've added more stuff it's a big jump it's different than the part of that jump but if we can justify more usage that's going out the bill is going to go up now for the discussion on tap utilities a further discussion on the recycling budget any further discussion on the library budget any further discussion on the public debt budget maybe for the discussion and regional services budget any further discussion on insurance and benefits budget any further discussion on liability insurance budget any further discussion and other expenditures make sure have no further discussion on the contingency or capital equivalence paid for with cash [Music] did we get the 1312 dollars off of the 251 312 general contingency went from 400 to we we did a direct way cut in half now which guys like 201 and change okay we can clean it up but what's it looks like you actually had a reason for going there not a big round number I think actually Shawn wasn't one to put it round things up off number yeah I think it was okay so those are what the notes are if that no raids happen now we did okay to scroll up just a little it is so we did make six thousand two hundred twenty five dollar change so now we need to go ahead and go back to the that revenue tab remind me which column is a thank you we need to make sure that that revenue is properly that was balanced and the VLF review what was that when you to 2506 225 you see if you hit the right now it's like [Music] scroll down so again I think that's where we were 1.54 so it wasn't a matter of trying to move the needle as a matter getting it right off so here we are and we're ready to move do we want to take five and all it over I think I'll say it again I think it's beyond the six of us now to make the next decision levels the motors can come out make their decision if they voted in obviously they've accepted it and if they both though then the harder decisions have to be made mouth bite out here I mean I think we've squeezed out the small little cracks I don't think there was a whole lot of cracks this year to squeeze and that I think it's up to the voters now to decide whether they want to maintain their same level of services that we currently have and the same level of service in the education level it's beyond the six of us sadly well we have decimals happy to be a bunny where's the decimal you know what let's let's take five oh come on Joe we're gonna take a five-minute recess just to make sure their work they are up here decimals and go back representing for the mother first move the decimal box for a TV okay good [Music] but can we get marks on your first time yes I'm ready [Music] okay thank you we have our spreadsheet maintained here is there further discussion or commentary before we make a motion and have our discussion I had to make a motion and I will I make a motion to accept total expenditures in the amount of 67 million four hundred thirty six dollars four hundred thirty six three hundred twenty-five dollars to include the Board of Education budget in the amount of forty three million twenty three thousand one hundred fifty one dollars town operating budget in the amount of eighteen million nine hundred forty eight thousand seven hundred forty dollars capital projects financing of 1 million three hundred fifty one thousand eighty dollars debt service of four million one hundred thirteen $354 which represents an anticipated increase in the mill rate of one-point-five for from 27 point 29 to 28 point 83 as referenced in the attach to 2018 from 19 count of Brookfield budget summary I'll second I'll open the floor to further discussion commentary I'll call them at this point closing was in Vice excellent job proud of the work we did good stuff I just I think it was a it was a good process going through with this team and a lot of us being new there's a little intimidating at first but I think the process went well and we had good discussions and I feel comfortable with what we're presenting the town save him I'll say the same thing and I also sent it with the Board of Ed site but there's a lot of new board members and part of this put in the budget forwarded to the Board of Selectmen was to give them the opportunity to manage the process they're new to the job they want to do a good job and they gotta have the tools to do a good job so I think we all took that into account to make sure that they had the tools to get their initiatives into place without handcuffing them and putting them in a bad spot being new next year hopefully they'll be more experienced and you know to come to us and work together again I'm not saying it did anything wrong but they'll have a different take on how things go and I think we can work together going forward there's nothing that's okay I think that all three boards did an exceptional an exceptional job of working together in this year's budget there was a significant amount of collaboration especially between the board and finance leader Board of Education which is important yes there are some increases here but I believe and I think the way that our deliberations have been going that they are a value-added increases especially on the education side there's a heavy special education budget that we have to accommodate and this budget does that it's what the board of education asked for for special education and as Glen mentioned you know we did leave the Board of Selectmen x' cut in place however we did identify significant sources of funding to offset more than 50% of that cut and I truly believe that the process will work if and when it is needed and part of the collaboration between the Board of Finance and the Board of Education was intended to strengthen the trust and relationship between those two boards specifically and through my discussions with Colette I really believe that that trust is there it is building and it's getting stronger I think we will demonstrate that in future meetings almost immediately so I I think the five of you did an exceptional job these conversations that we had were excellent we handled disagreements I think very well it doesn't always happen and again we let the process work and that's extremely important we made notes we don't have to agree on anything but majority rules all right and again the process works and I know I will stand behind this budget nice and firm and I do look forward to presenting it if we should vote to move it forward I do look forward to presenting it on April 3rd is there anything else that I'm on my tab all right hearing no further discussion I called the motion on the floor and to a vote all those in favor approving the budget has been moved on indicate by saying aye all right motion carries six out thank you everyone thank you are there any members of the public here I hope that folks did tune in and any questions that they have please bring to the April 3rd meeting move to adjourn I make a motion to adjourn second follow the favor by saying aye aye aye motion carries six oh thank you all very much thank you [Music]
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good evening and welcome inside discovery canyons campus the gym for the Thunder this will be a huge boys basketball game at 4a in the state of Colorado my name is Brian geminus sitting alongside me is Jason Carter and Jason I say it's a huge game because the Luas Palmer Rangers right now are the top-ranked team in the state in 4a yeah the best RPI ranking amongst all the teams like you mentioned and the seventh great team in the entire state of Colorado so certainly a good opportunity for discovery came to see where they stack up against one of the best any time a good team comes into your house you want to show them and remind them that it is your house let's take a look at the tale of the tape so to speak and discovery Canyon comes into this game they're a larger team they've got a lot of tall players on their team Jason and as you can see from the school Road though they're gonna be a little bit outnumbered from Lewis Palmer they score they score more points per game they get a few more rebounds per game so this is gonna be a tough battle for the Thunder coming into this one yeah I take a look at that the overall records obviously speak volumes Louis Palmer won their first 13 games this year lost a couple but have since won five more in a row discovery Canyon at ten and nine point difference about a 16 point difference but there wasn't that large of a margin the first two times these these teams met and that was at Lewis Palmer so we'll see if the home crowd makes a difference tonight both teams before a Pikes Peak League Lewis Palmer comes in at 10 and one in first place discovery Canyon in fifth place at five and six we'll see if the Thunder can make a move up the standings when we come back with this one you're watching boys high school basketball on 20 TV you [Applause] you [Music] welcome back into side discovery kami high school Brian German alongside Jason Carter just about to get that on the court both of these teams starting lineups have been announced we'll get to those in a minute I also want to welcome a third member of our broadcast crew tonight Andy hyo is the president of the colorado springs basketball officials association so anytime we see a questionable call we're coming to you Andy all right thanks for having me here I appreciate it no we're not going to talk about that we're going to talk about other things and the officials always in need of more officials and they do an outstanding job here in Colorado Springs we'll talk a little bit more about that throughout the game the starting lineups for the Louis Palmer Rangers Joel Scott Salim Nam a Carter Kreischer no Ibaka and Matt Ragsdale of her discovery cami Lilly Riley Marshall Seth Clausen Caleb Greta Lucian Zac Anderson and Caleb Blackburn and as you can see some of that height for Discovery Canyon a lot of teams can't play with the height of Luis Palmer and the tip by Scott goes right into Marshall's hands and discovery Canyon will take that possession to open this game up Marshall in the corner Blackburn trying to post up inside they get it to him off the glass won't go gets his own rebound this one is good discovery Canyon that's a good strike for them vision yeah you mentioned the heighth and that worked out perfectly they went right inside went to their big man who got his own board and put it back up the first to belong to the Thunder now we'll see how they do so far playing a man-to-man this is Joel Scott the leading scorer and much talked-about guard for Louis Palmer as we mentioned they're the top team in 4a coming into this game we'll only lost twice on the season only once in league Scott working on Anderson hole up can't get it to go and that's a good job by the king of discovery Canyon giving him just one shot yeah great defense stood his ground didn't go up didn't foul and Scott just missed a short little shot unfortunately ragsdale can't connect with Marshall the ball goes out of bounds it will go back over to the Rangers Selim and Nam a brings it up [Applause] outside open shot for Ragsdale can't get it to go again marshal only gives him one shot if the Thunder can do that all night long they're gonna be in this basketball game they're gonna need everybody to crash the boards and stay throw the second straight time that goes out of bounds for the Thunder if they do that all night they won't be in the best bouquet no Ibaka brings it up this time for Louis Palmer discovery came you're really concentrating on that man-to-man defense now male bring it back out top when they've cut us inside for the Rangers get it down Scott he goes up over Anderson this time it's good great leader there by Scott took the contact and still got the shot up big man dribbling the ball up the court this time at 6'5 Seth Clawson don't look it out inside this one Anderson nice entry pass again to Zac Anderson again tough leaders both teams make it a little more difficult on themselves and they probably have to that low but they've made him early nice poke there right there by a row dilution Caleb grit Ellucian the tough defensive player on this team he's the guy that does everything if you're looking for a guy on the Thunder to get you anything Caleb bro dilution is your guy up top Baca brain just moving the ball well coming inside and back out then on it let's crossover dribble spin move can't get it to go revolution couldn't come down with it the Clausen can on the run gets it to Marshall a little bit of it bounce pass there to him and inside they keep looking inside Anderson could shoot from out there as well can't get it to go nice box out a good job by Ragsdale to come around with that one former Rangers both these teams playing pretty good disciplined basketball so far in this first quarter Scott trying to turn on Anderson goes up and that'll be our first foul of the game as he forces Anderson to follow Scott just so strong down there he got slapped across the wrist and still got up a pretty good shot that almost went in for him so Scott will be shooting - trying to tie this game back up 71% free-throw shooter for Joel Scott got the first one more times than not he makes two no that's not true trying to figure out the percentages I was never good at math he made it both we're tied at four here comes Seth Clausen to Marshall on the outside [Music] discovery Canyon playing their offense way outside now Anderson will drive on Scott as they did get some open space inside won't get it to go Blackburn rebound up and in handle Blackburn nicely done that's the second time he's at the offensive boards and been able to come away with some extra points six for now Namie on the outside gets a screen from Kreischer and moves around it's got almost open on the inside Baca now tries to get the entry pass in there good job at the Thunder closing that one get it quickly after Anderson try to get it up couldn't get it there and a nice offensive rebound again by Seth Clausen third that time for the Thunder crashing the offensive boards well they've got six of their eight points off offensive rebounds Scott back up top gets it to Nami and moving it around good man-to-man defense so far by the Thunder and leave Ragsdale open he'll shoot not on tonight but Scott right there for the rebound puts it back and in Joel Scott a good offensive rebound and he now has six points just like that he'll go for one more nicely done by the junior check out the leaping ability and then takes the contact and the gets the friendly shooter bounce on the visiting rims Andy what you see on that that's a good call you know when they spin away they can get away from some of our officials but usually what we try to have as anything on inside the basket you want to have two sets of eyes on it and Mike made a good call there eight seven now grow dilution driving he'll go in for the easy layup Caleb grow dilution yeah when you don't play defense move around nama gets a screen now doubles it inside Scott knocked away a good job by Baca to get it back to rags yel up and in nice hustle there from Louis Palmer on the loose ball with the Thunder did a great job at double-teaming Scott on that inbound on that pass inside 10 9 we're gonna stay right here and I'm gonna talk to our resident official again Andy he oh the president the Colorado Springs basketball officials Association and Andy do usually when we talk about basketball teams getting together and start in a game they're kind of feeling each other out do refs have to feel the game too it's hard for the players to get into any type of rhythm so you know we're looking for things that make the game better we don't try to interrupt it we make calls if there's obvious things that need to be called but we need to get to a flow as well and that'll help the game all the way through to the fourth quarter we mentioned Lewis Palmer 18 and 2 coming into this game and DCCC 10 and 9 Jason the Thunder doing what they have to do to stay in this ball game so far when they did that the first time around 2 they were within three after the first quarter and actually outscored Lewis Palmer by 11 in the third quarter the first time these two teams played so they know that they can play with the Rangers Marshall brings it up top inside Anderson playing with a couple of files now excuse me they called it on grill dilution last time here's the Anderson up top go dilution nice entry pass black room looks like they could do that all night long yeah they certainly seem to have an advantage even in there even though Luis plumbers got plenty of kids listed six five or taller so far the inside game is belong to Discovery Canyon Namas Anderson steps out on and get it to Scott coach Campbell speaking with the officials right now about something he saw out there there's Baca had it knocked away momentarily gets it back he'll drive in on Clawson put it up nice block by Seth Clausen and here comes discovery can you get it to Blackburn down low and there's going to be a call to be made and they call the charge Andy I'm going to ask for your expert opinion on this if we get a repo [Music] guarding position protects Scott's got it you've got the took it in the chest if both players go in the same direction probably an offensive foul thanks for that it's explanation back to live action Scott Namie fakes it Riley right there with him and Ragsdale with throw dilution hanging on him Rangers get it out to Scott he wants that three and he could shoot it from there and he does so Scott's got nine points so far nine of the twelve for Lewis Ballmer now a little bit of pressure from the Rangers three-quarter court broken by the Thunder up top to Clausen so come down to Anderson nice spin move tries to go up with it Scott comes away with that ball and loses it out of bounds so it'll remain with the Thunder good help side defense there from Scott to come over and just get in the way of the discovery Canyon player and force him to run an inbounds play Marshall with the inbounds gets it inside try to get it to Clausen which is exactly where coach Campbell wanted it he's about two feet from us and told him exactly who to throw it to Marshall again oh this time try to get the black where no one on the outside will go out of bounds that's a third turnover for the Thunder so far today and just three passes that should have been caught I mean now when should have been picked off and the other two just went off the hands of players so if they can clean up those mistakes that would be yes I would work in their favor 12:12 Anderson pokes it away comes back and picked up by Kreischer good job by the official recognizing that was not and over in the back it was tipped by Anderson nice just give him points 11 and I mean he just wave baseline took a step and went up that's pretty impressive you won't see that a ton at the high school level no discovery Canyon coming back the other way nice in side pass again to Black Rock hila Blackburn has eight now for Discovery candy as we come down to the final minute of the first quarter get it down to Scott once to go on Anderson backs him down takes it inside nice job working inside out right there Clawson batting this one around Marshall can't handle it knocked away by grote illusion and here comes the Thunder Road Aleutians gonna take it all away himself can't get it to go tough one there good hustle just started his approach to the basket maybe a step too far away and he just laid it off the side of the rim Bach is holding it out here it looks like coach bill Benton and company want one shot to close out this first quarter at the game tied at 14 they'll set it up top Kreischer to Ragsdale Ragsdale with Road Ellucian on him the count has started I'm not sure Ragsdale realizes that but he does get rid of the ball back now to cry shirt and Baca they'll swing it around runs inside eight seconds now here comes Ragsdale [Applause] - Scott they got him the ball with just a few seconds left he puts it up won't go Anderson with the rebound he didn't get that off in time it wouldn't be counted but a good job defensively there to end the quarter will be back we're tied at 14 after one at discovery Canyon discovery Canyon 14 Louis Palmer 14 back with more after this on 20 TV you every Canyon so far it's been Caleb Blackburn who's been doing the job for the Thunder he's got eight of their 14 points we are tied at 14 and a great job so far for discovery Canyon getting it inside of the big man yeah and he's got that nice little hook shot off the glass down he said it a couple times already we'll see if he can continue to do that Ragsdale of top gets it to Baca try to get it Scott nice catch one-handed stolen away by Marshall here comes Riley Marshall all by himself and a deuce and again discovery Canyon back in the lead great defense there by discovery candy it turns into two easy points back inside now back in the game Trey McCulloch another steal here comes Marshall again nice back pass to Anderson he thought about Duncan it took the easy two instead now it's a four-point lead quickly back the other way here come the Rangers and Joel Scott bodied up by Seth Clausen puts it up can't get it Blackburn with the rebound this is a good start to this quarter for discovery Canyon their shots have been easy booze Palmer shots have all been contested Scott's had to go up with hands in his face the entire time as we get a foul that foul is gonna be called on Trey McCulloch his first foul is the six seven Junior Center Ford just checked into the game to start this quarter inside Blackburn it's a de Clausen almost lost it they'll keep Anderson and Blackburn out a double high post flossing gonna bring it around the baseline shot up can't get it to go rebound good box-out by everyone on Louis Palmer Ragsdale run the court tries to go ahead as soon with the block and he taps it right to court Ellucian look out here come the Thunder nice job for Caleb revolution Oh can't get it to go Clausen had the rebound grow dilutional run it down in the corner yeah we got another foul the second straight on Trey McCulloch for Lewis Palmer and this crowd is coming alive at Discovery King great defense has led to some easy buckets they didn't score that signed ECC but they've come away with blocks and steals here to take a look nice timing they're on the defensive end leads to a fast break great job for the Thunder back to live action now Seth Clawson with the ball up top being guarded by Ragsdale gets it down to Marshall in the corner he's got a Anderson inside instead comes back up top to Blackburn there's two posts doing a great job so far for discovery Canyon Blackburn gets his own rebound what's been up and in again that's the third time he's done that tonight nicely done I mean he's got that off glass he loves that shot and he's so tall and leaves the ball up so high a lot of guys will bring it up from their chest but he leaves it up high the entire time now made his Scott Scott will take that three-point shot not contested at all this one goes off and Lauren Phillips and discovery Canyon gets that rebound Marshall up top coach once played 21 k-dubb row dilution inside Anderson and he's fouled again this one's gonna be on Baca no Ibaka here's another look great feed there from crota Lucian inside and Hakka almost got it to go up on the other side of the rim just left it a little short it's great feed though from crota Lucien Anderson this is the first Zach Anderson is six-six jr.
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it's the first of the game on you can see Sand Creek they're in that zone it's a two-three matchup but they are getting out quickly in their trap and this cat team especially when they get the ball down in the corner we'll keep an eye on that see if the cadets can take care of the basketball Lunt up top he's getting trapped as well dribbles out of it now back up top they'll move that ball around if the cadets can keep moving that basketball it's gonna help of laughing outside Bendrick drives inside and we're gonna get a second foul in this possession called against Sam Creek and great ball movement they pulled up Luke Lausanne right to the high post he took that entry pass from Biddle just turned right away didn't even look to shoot turned right away to the other side to bend only draw the foul nice inbounds pass Luke laughing gets the first bucket of the game and Air Academy takes it to nothing lead here comes Santa a pack the other way Javon Williams kicks it on the outside Jackson Dawson gets it out to vargas won't go rebound cadets middle quickly at the court hat doing with him a little too close for that pass though lost it and knocked away by doing a good job Biddle to doing for the second bucket of the game good hands there by dad doing gets the turnover gets it to Biddle gets it right back Javon Williams down the lane no call as he runs over that doing and we got a foul called probably on bad doing and it is and it will be it's gonna be a block call and boy the Air Academy benching their coach Barry Clark he wanted a charge call on that play we'll take a look at it right there but he looked like doings feet were set in at the last minute was the referee on the outside of the play that makes the call but we're the mascots feet set and the previous shot they're not sure he looked like he was full rubbing his tummy for nothing this is Javon Williams junior guard for the scorpions misses the first one second shot up and misses as well rebound who else that doing quickly a hood did Josh Biddle can't get it to go and Williams is there for the rebound pushes it up to Kenan Thompson Thompson gonna take it up and in and Sand Creek gets on the board go race horse basketball going on right now doing as laughing inside dribbles by three scorpions kicks it out to Biddle got it three-pointer by Josh Biddle Biddle gets the bucket but all the heavy lifting done by dad doing quickly back the other way Dexter Dawson nice fake got doing any air but couldn't complete the pow Bendrick almost loses the basketball gets it back to Lunt again Biddle in the corner he'll take that all day absolutely back-to-back threes from the exact same spot Sand Creek has got to get out of him quickly but Josh Biddle is feeling it right now Vaughan Williams download' Dexter Dawson comes back up top Kenan Thompson shows he could shoot from three as well and he's got all five of the Scorpions points so far like good work by Kenan Thompson just finding that open spot hits the shot 10 5k tetes middle now Kenan Thompson said I better guard this guy out here bad doing try to get it to Bendrick finally gets to him turns on Vargas and comes back up top nice job inside that doing goes up no foul called against Galvan as he blocks that ball now gets it forward to Kenan Thompson Thompson again goes up and there's a block they're gonna call Bendrick for the foul yeah they are gonna get him and looked like he got the ball of initially but he ends up getting the arm for Brock Bendrick the first foul of the game on the senior we'll take a look at that right now here's Kenan Thompson coming right at you oh yeah that's a foul all the way thought he might have got some ball early on but he did not we have Kenan Thompson at the line who has 5 points tonight it's a great look from the 20 TV cameras down there Tim Sara Tory run it on the baseline and I good look and there's a missed free-throw from Kenan Thompson and into the game now Joel Malina as well as Isaiah Jordan for Sand Creek Air Academy still playing with their starters that one is good 15 Ian Thompson Sand Creek backs up into that zone a 1-1 3 or a 1 3 Luke latha to Bendrick he'll take the outside shot can't get it to go rebound Galvan and tied up by Luca Alpha and we're gonna call it a hell ball and it'll come to Sam Creek this time but good job by laughing to get the tie up really nice job getting in there and getting that tie up bro Miguel van got the rebound he went up he gets the rebound high but he brings it down low and allows Luke Lausanne to get his hands on it Galvan good ball movement kini Thompson again for three Kenan Thompson with all 9 of San Creek's points tonight two three-pointers kid it's 10 Thompson 9 good ball movement by the cadets again this time inside to laugh and kick it out to pendrick nice pass to Lutz Blount on the outside gets his first three points of the game Niko Lunt the senior three points tonight averages just under 13 per game but at this pace the cadets are gonna score a lot more than the 48 that it took to beat San Creek the first time doing got the ball he's gonna get fouled right there by AJ Davis take a look at that play right now here's the three-pointer by lunch out of the corner three three-pointers have been hit by Air Academy soldier as you're looking at the way they've run their offense they want to get it into Latha at the high point kick it over that right side corner for the three laughing playing strong inside this time he gets wide open underneath doesn't think about it but he stepped out of bounds it's gonna be Santa creek ball and good job of mixing it up a little bit we've been seeing the same plays out of air Academy in that time Luke Lavin goes down low he was looking over to the nut to the nearside corner for the shot and ends up stepping out of bounds Keeney Thompson try to get it inside got his own ball back and this gets blocked by Blount quickly on the run Bendrick Bendrick with everyone around him got that ball off I'm not sure how he did that Isaiah Jordan got the rebound and they're gonna fall it and call a foul against Biddle that's his first the third team foul both teams with three team fouls right now in Isaiah Jordan will inbound it for Sand Creek Eric Adam he comes with a little bit of a zone press quickly beaten by Jordan they trap him there good ball movement really by both of these teams so far inside AJ Davis shot up won't go Biddle gives it to Lunt coach Clark says run Blount loses it off of Thompson's foot and it's just a little hat habit haphazard right now Biddle to doing and they call him for walking with the basketball gotta settle down now substitution coming into the game for Air Academy Cal Yocum comes in as does Ryan self coming out the game fab doing and Josh Biddle Isaiah Jordan he's gonna get that ball back okay that's with a little bit of pressure again Kenan Thompson beats it down low nice ball movement by the scorpions kick it back up Kenan Thompson this time it won't go ran down my Lunt nice forward pass to Cal Yocum up and in for the senior while what a great look up core by Nico Lunt to pick up the assist on that Guinea Thompson did Jordan scorpions trying to get it inside AJ Davis loses the basketball here comes Bendrick in up and in how about the transition offense here of air Academy they are getting up and down quickly and a team that averages 60 points per game they've already got 17 in this one 17 to 9 139 left here in the first quarter we'll keep it right here and Robert Hawkins the head coach for Sand Creek probably gonna have to figure out a way to stop those transition baskets from the cadence and the cadets are getting it every way possible I mean they're hitting their three-point shots when they get them they're getting buckets in transition turnovers by San Rico it's really hurting the scorpions in the quick transition must put the key that's up by 8 points in this one here's a here's a good look at that last layup Cal Yocum coming in great outlet pass by Nicole Lunt and then Bendrick taking it all the way himself coast to coast for the chippy 17 to 9 is where we stand right now so Sand Creek trying to get back into this basketball game Galvan will inbound the ball to Javon Williams they're both back into the game this Isaiah Jordan John Williams did it drive the lane and they're gonna get a foul call that's the thing they're being aggressive offensively that's gonna be on Brock Bendrick which for Barry Clark that's two fouls now on Bendrick the senior guard he'll probably have to come out and he does for grant Shandi but saying Davis Sand Creek really forcing the cadets into play to play a little bit more frenetic defense and causing them to come up with some fouls in the corner Javon Williams takes it to the hole tries to go up and we get another foul so the fifth team foul already this one's on Luke Lavin on Bryant like you were saying this is an Air Academy team they like to pressure the basketball all over the floor Javon Williams shot won't go offensive rebound inside blocked from behind by Ryan self they get it out to lunch one behind the back turns around takes it down the lane kicks it out there move it around now Yocum thinking about it out there Jeff on Williams playing the point in that defense and he knocks this one away comes back one-on-one with Nikko Lunt he goes inside Lunt got his leg out there kind of moved his leg out there and he'll get called for that foul Nikko want his first Javon Williams will go to the line missed his first two I was good hands by Javon Williams to force that turnover then he comes down and yeah you could just see just at the very end sticks his knee and his shoulder out and he draws the foul but a nice steel by Javon Williams comes down in transition draws the foul knocks down the first free throw at the first he's now one of three you can do a good job to climb back to 50% back into the game Kenan Thompson Isaiah Jordan takes a seat for Sand Creek this ball bounces around off the miss and it comes back down to the scorpions Brandon Galvan Kenan Thompson out top swing the basketball around this is gabe rock back did you bond williams and now our Academy forcing Sand Creek to run some offense Brock comes inside good contact no foul called rebound laughing Luke laughing quickly up the court good ball movement to get it out to grant Shandy for his first three of the game we've got 13 three-pointers this season but hits one right there in air Academy just knocking down those shots they're getting good open looks because of the penetration they're hitting their shots Javon Williams into the corner there's Thompson won't go rebound again offensive rebound Joel Malina has two straight offensive rebounds this time the cadets come away with this one Wow King comes up with it and good job by Javon Williams stopping him from going anywhere as the clock expires here for the first quarter cadence with a 10-point lead will come back with quarter number two right after this on twenty TV you here Academy with a 10-point lead after one quarter and everybody getting into the active well they really are Brian you look at 7k debts have scored their 20 points shooting 57% from the field four for seven from three-point land they're shooting lights out early on in this game for a team that averages 60 a game they're set to score 80 in this one if they keep this up good ball movement by the cadets so far today chandi long pass good grab by Ryan self they'll get it out to lunch nice pass inside Cal Yocum may be ill-advised bounce but it'll take it two points for Cal he's got four on the day yeah a nice pass down low yeah I thought Kelly you'll come sure went straight up with that he had the little hesitation but ends up getting the bucket shows you what we know right we probably would have blown straight up in the mist that's why we're over here yes Vargas inside back to Galvan they'll move it up top to Molina and now the man who's been scoring everything Keenan Thompson goes inside he gets two more call it 11 for Kenan on the night he's having tonight 11 of their 12 points in this game Lunt up top is Chandi okay that's moving that basketball around just one starter or two starters on the court with doing and Lunt coach Clark barking out stuff and there's that doing wide open layup great job offensively for the cadets patience and work that offense get a wide open shot and a great pass by Ryan self who was in the corner hits doing slashing to the bucket Javon Williams gonna take this one inside and we're gonna get a charge called a great job by Grant Shandy to step in and draw the charge yeah I've really was and Kay that's been trying to get a charge this whole game here comes right and good job by Grant Shandy he came off the bench knocks down to three draws a charge good minutes for the junior to grant Shandy still in the basketball game kid it's still the same Isiah Jordan is now back in the game for the scorpions here comes lunch down there things just too easy for the cadets so far tonight well it just opens everything up when you're knocking down those three-point shots it opens up the middle and you're able to ease hips down low Galvin driving tried to get it to Vargas knocked away the good job again by Shandy hits that ball to doing-doing quickly at the court thought about it lost the basketball Niko Lunt good behind the back pass look at this beautiful pass here after doing he'll bring it inside and we're gonna get a foul on the floor I believe by Galvin and it is Brandon Gavin's first the team's sixth well I just great ball movement and such unselfish play day they passed up about three or four good looks just to try to get a better one bad doing pass Shandi wide open inside he missed it I'll just hurried that one up a little bit coach Robert Hawkins talking to the official right now I think he's worried too many too many fouls being called on his scorpions but it is seven to five Gators had seven fouls called on and this one comes on dad doing his second doing second foul the game sends Brandon Galvin to the free-throw line for the first time tonight misses this one good hustle by Thompson and knocks it off the cadets it'll stay scorpions ball well he scorpions are getting to the free-throw line tonight they're 2 for 7 from the line in this game when they get those opportunities they've got to make their free-throws inside won't go nice rebound in there by Ryan's self stolen away again but blocked by self now down the lane Vargas puts it up Lunt tips it to self and the cadets will keep this one self now gets it to Lunt and they will calm down 26:12 a 14-point cadet lead Lunt drives the lane tries to get it up can't get it to fall and we're gonna get two shots once again and this one is on Brandon Galvin his second foul one goes to the line Nikko lent their leading scorer 13 points per game we've seen him knock down to three in this game we've seen him hit a layup as he drove and got to the buck at that time he got in again faul gets to the free-throw line for the first time but misses his first free throw on the season Nikko Luntz a 77% free-throw shooter Luke laughing back into the game for Ryan's self self do good job while he was in there a couple rebounds a couple blocks once second shot got it you would expect miss 77% free-throw shooter misses first Katie Thompson down to the corner scorpions continues swing the ball around being told to run play number one Coach Hawkins driving the lane Jordan can't get it to go kick it out to Vargas thought about the shot gonna be called for the walk and the cadets so active with their hands and you could just see as soon as they got set up they tried to go into the corner good active hands they almost drew a steel and then Vargas ends up getting that loose ball at the top of the key he ends up traveling with it the ninth turnover for San Creek one shot outside got it nice roll for Niko Luntz get in 9 on the night shooters touch to it just touched about every side of the rim ends up going in and Rob Hawkins is gonna want a timeout from the Sand Creek team great quarter already for the cadets 3212 will take a timeout as well we'll be back with more action high school basketball here on 20 TV you back inside air Academy High School and the cadets running away with this one so far 449 left in the second quarter and quite the lead and just everything working for the cadets yeah really is Brian Air Academy on a 10-2 to run to start out this second quarter down low Kenan Thompson knocked it away here comes Josh Biddle who's back in the game quickly ahead to Luke Laughlin he'll run the run the court tried to get it to Bendrick who falls down and they're gonna call for a walk with the basketball and that's one where Luke Laos and were just going a little bit too fast he could have just gone up or maybe a little jump stop for a little easy bucket but instead he tries to pass it behind him and the key that's turned the ball over head middle with the turnover back to Lunt easy deuce for niko lunch 11 points now for Niko he's almost got his average is not even halftime Jordan in the corner nice job by Vargas couldn't get it to go knocked around saved by Galvan and here comes Bendrick vendrick quickly up the court two scorpions with him they'll run it inside it'll get a foul called as they got the ball to grant chandi yeah Bendrick got in really low and he tried to just hand it off to grant Sandy Shandi went up for a quick shot draws the foul on the play and three substitutions now coming in for San Creek Dalton Dawson comes in jayvon Williams is back into the game as is Ryan Nelson Isaiah Jordan picks up the foul and it'll be Shandy to the line two shots misses the first yeah there's a whistle coach Clark asking what's going on I'm not sure if there was a lane violation they're shooting a one in one they were not sure so now he'll shoot the first of a one in one and he makes it makes it again yes four points four grand Shandy see if you can make it an even 5 although I'm not sure what happened to that first free throw that's that's one you just throw out I guess got it well for Grant Shandy it worked out well it sure did he made two of three little says two for two in the books here comes Ron Williams down low nice move Marcus Gowdy just into the game 34:14 okay that's gonna try and just keep this pressure up the whole game here's Biddle out top tried to get it knocked away by the scorpions scorpions playing deeper in their bench right now Javon Williams to Dawson and Agathon for travel for air Academy you're up 20 points in this game and Josh Biddle just forced that pass inside they've been working it around they're getting good shots they're shooting 65% from the field when you're doing that and you're ahead early in the game especially at home you don't want to turn the ball over Luke laughing and want up top move this ball around grant Shandi inside try to get it back to Biddle and the kid that's starting to make some mistakes good thing they're up by 20 as you said yeah exactly you don't want do anything to let Sand Creek get back into this game remember when these teams met back on January 5th at Sand Creek it was a 48 47 win for our Academy here's a steal Bendrick comes up with it he'll take it easily in for another two Rock Bendrick four points quickly ahead now to Goudy in the corner and scorpions working around Mark Thompson no problem taking that three won't go month with the rebound push it forward Neko LUN nice bacon he gets hammered as he goes inside by Kenan Thompson that'll be Thompson's second foul a good job by Nicole Emily nice little behind the back dribble we'll take a look at it right there's better it is great behind the back dribble a little fake to the pass with the clipped to the corner and goes in and gets fouled on the plane Nicolette heads for the line he is 1 for 2 tonight and Niko Lunt for the game has 11 points first one up and good Nikko once an impressive player and actually could really handle the ball well for these cadets which Barry Clark just trying to get his team to come around as we mentioned in the pregame they were eight and three at one point on the season now they're 8 9 so maybe they got it going tonight and can keep it going the rest of the season and one thing that's plagued them as we talked in the pregame show a little bit Brian was getting off to a bad start they've gotten behind early in games they've lost six straight but those six straight games they've lost a lot of close games six last week to Cheyenne Mountain one to DCC back on this past Friday and this game here they came right out jumped on Sand Creek early on and they've kept it up all game Josh Biddle was called for his second foul Kenan Thompson is at the line biddle came out Cal Yocum came in and Thompson another shot 12 points in a rebound for Kenan Thompson got it make it 13 Yocum cross-court pass look the cadets just move this ball around swinging it there's a skip pass brach Bendrick outside can't get it to go Lausanne knocks it but sends the ball out of bounds and it'll be scorpion basketball and another good look by the cadets and they had back-to-back possessions with turnovers that time it was good skip pass from Cal you'll come over on the right wing over to Bendrick he had a good look just couldn't hit it there was another steal by Bendrick one got it to Yocum yokum's gonna take it in on his own and get fouled it almost hit Adam Drake the 20 TV videographer under the basket again that's that pressure the press of Air Academy they've got good hands Lunt was in there as well laughing with his hands ends up getting it down to cal Yocum Yocum goes right into the basket gets fouled 64% free-throw shooter as Cal Yocum the senior and on the Scorpions side it's gonna be tough because Kenan Thompson just picked up his third foul the leading scorer tonight with 13 for the scorpions he'll be coming out a seat along with Javon Williams as well as Ryan Nelson Jordan Collins come into the game with Vargas in yokum's second shot got it you like to see those just swish through six points for Yocum and he knocks the ball out of ounce kid it's gonna keep up that relentless pressure despite being up at 24 good hustle by Cal Yocum I mean he just took that last free throw quickly got back to midcourt he's that anticipate or right at midcourt in that zone press ends up knocking that out of Ellis I say it Jordan moving the ball around it comes Vargas on the baseline tries to drive it inside stolen away by laughing I see how they have so many steals per game okay that's a lot of them here in the first half Yocum nice dry kick out the Bendrick won't go wow that almost had the rebound scorpions come up with it in the hands of Cheyne Collins here comes Jordan has Vargas with him he'll take it in for two first two of the game for Isaiah Jordan okay that's come right back Lunt up top it's a pendrick back to Lunt and swing it to Cal Yocum scorpions may be not moving quick enough on that defensive side in the zone not being able to stop these cadet passes from finding their mark here comes Isaiah Jordan nice spin move puts it up won't go Luther Laughlin with the rebound K does he'll run back the other way he's got Shandi with him laughing goes up won't go this one's tipped around it's gonna go out of bounds off of the scorpions it'll be Kate at basketball I got Barry Clark the head coach of Air Academy right in front of us telling Luke Lausanne hey when you pull up right there get under control a little jump stop you have a better chance of hitting that he was leaning a little too far forward missed the shot Brian self back into the game for Bendrick cadets inbound the basketball they will move it around they certainly can swing it keep the scorpions back in that zone nice job great ball movement get it to shanty on the outside for three won't go scorpions with a rebound oh and he was out of bounds and that's a good call by the official Marcus gaudi's left heel went over the line and touched down and that is out of bounds and as well as their Academy is shooting the basketball their missiles have not in buy much and that last one by Garrett Shandy wide open look from three-point land it just spun around and came out Jochen comes back up to want like Barry Clark would he'll take one shot if you can get it but they're gonna make them pull that zone outside Lunt almost at half courts making our wide camera just go really wide this is a bad pass goes over Shanti's head they're gonna let Galvin pick it up throws it right to Cal Yocum and they'll continue to run he tried to get it to laughin try to look him off try to look the way of Ryan self and throw it to laughing and kind of threw it somewhere in between threw a right over cameraman that's Adam Drake down there just staying with the play and he's got a lot of lot of action right around him he's not even on the court Sankar trying to break that press and Laughlin comes back again another steal once it's a dis Shandy ten seconds now Cal Yocum goes baseline sends it back out Lunt thought about the three he'll switch it over to Shandy give him another shot won't go rebound a nice tip inside by laughing they're gonna call that off of the scorpions it'll be kid at basketball one point six seconds left under there were two point one seconds left under their own basket Yocum it's an inside Lunt throws it up won't go and that's the way the half will end but a great half for air Academy as they go into the locker room with a 42 18 lead will come back with some halftime highlights after this on 20 TV you the world around us is wide open with plants and birds and animals and possibilities Academy district 20 prepares students for the world ahead by striving for excellence in everything we do from our great teachers to the unique variety of learning opportunities we provide if that sounds like an environment where your child can thrive then choose excellence choose Academy district 20 visit ASD 20 org to learn more you we're back inside air Academy High School where the cadets have a 42:18 lead over the Sand Creek Scorpions at halftime Brian German alongside Dave Toller and Dave the cadets got this thing going early on in this game they did Brian they got some good looks from three early hits some shots right down the Delaine let's take a look at those highlights from the first half you saw the graphic right there the 50% shooting in the first half that one from laughin on the inside then Josh Biddle really got him going he hit two straight three-pointers that's the first one right there Josh middle here's another one coming to the pass from Nicole utt middle out of the corner knocks it down again and puts the cadets up early just about all of the offense for Sand Creek scorpions coming from this man right here Kenan Thompson at one point he had all nine of their points he had 13 in the first half trying to keep the scorpions in this but the cadets were just too much Nikko Lunt Nicollet going to the basket with the left hand gets the easy layup as he gets down low on the scorpions and we'll take another look here's Nicole Lunt again this time pulls up from three and knocks it down and then to pressure defense really what's working for the cadets just causing so many turnovers middle with the turnover presence of mind to get it quickly up to Lunt he scores and just like that the cadets have a 40 to 18 lead here's another look at that graphic indicator that's really winning in everything but rebounds yeah they really are Brian look at a couple of numbers that really jump out 50% shooting from the field for Air Academy and look at the turnovers by Sand Creek 18 turnovers 12 of those are steals by an air Academy team that averages 14 per game well ahead of that pace and if you're Air Academy and you're trying to look about what we need to do better I guess you want to turn the ball over a little bit less they've got 12 Turner's over their own of their own I mean yeah they do they've got they got to do that they're doing a nice job of hitting the the rebounds in the first game it was Sand Creek that really out rebounded air Academy cadets doing a better job on the boards tonight both teams back out on the court will come back momentarily for the start of the third quarter Kate adds up 22 we'll see more of it right after this on 20 TV you just about ready to start the second half in this one and it's a boys for a Pikes Peak League basketball game and Brian German alongside Dave Toller the cadets with a 22 point lead at the half if you're Robert Hawkins and Santa Creek Dave how do you get back into this basketball game well Brian the biggest thing is taking care of the basketball I mean 18 turnovers in that in that first half is a lot for that Sand Creek team and then four on defense for the scorpions they've got to get out on those shooters for air Academy and they've had way too many good looks as you're watching the highlights of the first half you saw how many wide open looks they had from three couple of times they got inside for an easy layup no defense around him so turn up the defense and take care of the basketball for the scorpions good shot of Barry Clark there and here's the cadet mascot on the sideline he's been pretty happy along with the cadet crazies over there it'll be scorpion basketball a lot of fun as he should be when you're up 22 Keaney Thompson back in the game he's got three fouls for the scorpions captain keep keep an eye on him and Vargas and they swing it around Thompson up top works on lund takes it inside he gets a bucket and the foul his offensive touch when he went out with the three fouls they did 3000 of the game here's a look at it right there what a good start for San Creek that's what you want your leading scorer Kenan Thompson your senior taking control early on in the second half gets inside gets the bucket gets to the line they go up strong in the three-point play of the conventional way for mr.
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good evening and welcome inside the classical academy in northern colorado springs for a boys 4a colorado springs metro league basketball matchup my name is brian german alongside me is dave toller the mesa ridge grizzlies invading tca tonight and on paper dave this looks like a really good matchup i think it's going to be a great game brian you look at mesa ridge they've won 11 straight games tcu has won six of their last seven and you look at the rpi standings in the state mesa ridge number 22 tca number 24. we should have a great game here tonight if you look at the stats on paper mesa ridge scores a lot more points during the basketball game but tca does the little things you see their numbers of assists are bigger their rebounds are larger on this graphic as well the only thing mesa ridge really has an edge in here is blocks and that's probably because they just have a huge lineup from all the way down from their guards all the way to their center but again i look at those numbers and not really going to tell the tale what's going to tell the tale is the last time these two teams played tca lost by 27.
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good evening and welcome inside Pine Creek High School Bryan German alongside Dave Toller for this 5a Metro League boys basketball match up between the Palmer terrors and the homestanding Pine Creek Eagles and Dave on paper this looks like a pretty close contest the Pine Creek comes in at eight and six overall one and three in Metro League play Jimmy grants his team comes in from the Palmer it's six and ten oh and five in Metro League play they've had a lot of close losses this one really could be a big one for each of these teams that they can get a win in this game for the rest of their season while Bryan should be a really good game these two teams know each other very well the last eight meetings between these teams each one has won four of them but last season it was Pine Creek that swept this series and Palmer terrors have put up a few more points than pine creek on the year but these numbers may be a bit deceiving especially tonight because we found out from Jimmy grants on the Palmer side that Isiah Robinson the second leading scorer for Palmer will not play tonight he's out with strep throat gonna make it awful tough on the terrors isaiah robinson averaging over 15 points per game when you look at those stats the one thing that really jumps out at you the rebounds palmer averaging six more rebounds per game than pine creek is we'll keep an eye on that during the broadcast should be a good one we will come back with the tip-off right after this you're watching high school basketball on 20 TV you the world around us is wide open with plants and birds and animals and possibilities Academy district 20 prepares students for the world ahead by striving for excellence in everything we do from our great teachers to the unique variety of learning opportunities we provide if that sounds like an environment where your child can thrive then choose excellence choose Academy district 20 visit ASD 20 org to learn more you [Applause] inside Pine Creek high school Brian German alongside Dave Toller for this boys five a metro league battled the Palmer terrors taking on the Pine Creek Eagles and for Palmer starting lineup looks like this Julian Davis Hank Meyers timac Braden grants and Darian Meyers Pine Creek will go with Grant Wilkinson max low fees Sam Bishop Peyton Westfall and Cameron Horton up to jump center here will be Derry and Myers against Sam Bishop it's a good look at Peyton Westfall just about set to go Dave Darian Myers I'm expecting the palm-trees to go to him quite often tonight with Isaiah Robinson out he is gonna have to have a big night tonight Brian Isaiah Robinson the junior guard for Palmer 15 points a game he is out tonight he's he sick quick call real quick inside Sam Bishop talking to Cameron Horton down low and Horton will pick up his first personal foul for his team foul against the Eagles just seven seconds into this game Palmer's ball underneath Mac inbounds Myers comes over to grants grants now it gets it into the hands of Darian Myers good swing past grant so shoot for three just off the iron it comes back down and Pine Creek gets it and will bring it forward with important Horton and the Eagles set it up Westfall on the left now loafie up top with wilkinson nice cut by Sam Bishop he turns and faces wilkinson cuts baseline up won't go rebound by Palmer's Hank Meyers and the terrorists come back the other way the patient they look like they want to go down to Darien Myers every time he get the ball he's off on his first shot of the game and Cameron Horton again with a rebound loaf Ian Wilkinson out top Terrace playing man-to-man defense nice look to Westfall on the side shot up won't go another good box out there for Darien Myers well these two teams have had some good looks already Brian they haven't gotten anything to go down here's Myers go into the bucket can't get it to go parsley blocked rebound Wilkinson here comes Mack slow flee quickly up the court low fee inside Myers was there and gets the call they called the charge on max low fee the second team foul already on to Pine Creek Eagles and that was max low fee coming in one on two and you think maybe if Heda pulled that out they could have got a better look he took it to the basket we'll get a look at it right here boy Palmer player was set up right there taking the charge low fee takes the foul if you're thinking Darien Myers is just an offensive player because he's the leading scorer for the Terriers think again good defense there by this the junior forward shot way downtown bang call it for time mac and it's the first basket of the game three nothing yeah a nice job by time a quell he was deep he was a couple of feet beyond the arc that time puts the terrors up 3-0 Wilkinson inside pay ship it's a back Wilkins it will shoot for three this one's off and Myers with the rebound and Myers breaking things down he's an explosive player Julian Davis now outside again this one well off for Wilkinson Wilkinson comes down can't get it to Westfall just outside his reach and it will come back to the terrorists little bit sloppy there on the break for the Eagles wasn't the Pine Creek head coach Joe rouse told us before the game one of his keys was taking care of the basketball recently they've struggled with that and he said it's unforced turnovers and that was an unforced one right there on the break he's up top to Mack Mack penetrates hit sit outside Davis shot won't go both teams cold from the floor right now Westfall with the rebound gets it to Wilkinson and the Eagles will bring it back the other way there's a nice penetration a kick to the corner for a wide-open shot it just wouldn't go down loafie looking inside finds bishop up top here's Wilkinson and loafie cuts into the paint no call on the collision tipped out loafie gets the rebound puts it down back up and in and the Eagles get their first basket from Max loafie nice job by max loafie going in and the first one wouldn't go but he stayed with it low fee at 5:10 was in among some tall players got the rebound a good head fake him put it back up back we come with Ty Mac in the corner for Braden grants Jimmy grants his son the other Myers in the corner can't get it to go Wilkinson both teams rebounding well on the defensive end Wilkinson brings it forward cuts into the paint finds a Horton outside this one won't go loafie again inside for the rebound quickly back outside Westfall shot up good three points and eagles have their first lead of the game paint the westfall with a good shot he's set up on that spot on the wing but credit max loafie back-to-back possessions where max loafie winning got the offensive rebound they kicked it out to Westfall for the three Braden grants in the corner Myers shot up won't go he's been off so far knocked around and comes down again to Cameron Horton Horton doing a good job on the glass Westfall slows it down gets it back outside Wilkinson Sam Bishop loses it comes inside against Myers got to get out of the lane does so fast there Horton it's it off of Westfall goes all I thought it was out of balance back to Bishop Bishop takes it inside knocked away and back the other way comes Hank Myers all the way up and they're gonna call a block against Cameron Horton and that'll be his second foul quickly here in the first quarter yeah that's two quick ones and you look at the other end pine creeks offensive possession the ball was just bouncing all over the place they just had no control over it a little sloppy and then as soon as Palmer got it out good job by Myers on the break coming down the left side we'll take a look at it right here comes in with the left hand goes up draws the foul he'll be shooting to first ones up and good and substitution now into the game thank you Dave marks a Vitello comes into the game and surprisingly horton doesn't come out second shot good as well we're tied at five we thought that would be Horton coming out he did pick up the two quick fouls but he stays in took the westfall out instead seven tella inside wilkinson almost stolen by grants keeps the ball gary myers DS him up up top switches now to take Bishop playing a two-man game on the side get it over here pine creek doing a good job taking their time on office Wilkinson down low pops it up top Bishop doesn't want to shoot from out there takes it inside on Myers they're gonna call him for a walk when he had the wide open look up top he didn't want it he made a nice spin move he just picked the ball up little too quick drug that pivot foot in the turnover that's the third turnover of this game for Pinetree it's asking coach Roush did I really travel and coach around yes you did time act brings it up into the game now Terrell Crowell for Palmer shot up again for Mac won't go rebound Myers back out and now it's Braden grants his turn shot up won't go rebound again inside Hank Meyers working on the offensive glass doing a good job inside they're doing a great job and draws the foul on the play and whether they call that unfortunately they did his third and porton will come out of the game with three quick fouls Wow Joe Roush probably second-guessing himself there as now Horton we thought was going to come out with two now is three Colton Jager into the game along with Blake Hatcher for the Pine Creek Eagles Roel up front back again nice behind the back shot go Wilkinson comes up with it they're still tied at five dude Wilkinson up top gets it to low feet down the lane shot up and good a nice play by max loafie took that ball the way up at the three-point line puts it down with the left hand takes it all the way up to the rim loafie has four in this game already Terry's moving it around in the core Darien Meyers goes baseline gets it up partially blocked no foul called rebound pine creek good job by Grant Wilkinson getting up and getting a piece of that ball as Meyers was trying to take it all the way to the rim goat and Jager comes up with the rebound Wilkinson gets a pick from Jager puts it up won't go rebound low fee again inside max loafing a great job on the offensive glass we talked about Hank Meyers on the other end both those guys doing yeoman's work in there they really aren't low fee drew the foul on the play as well so max low fee goes to the line here's a good look at it that was the drive by max low fee the previous play that he scored on he's got four points tonight and he's at the line time after Palmer got the foul his first actually the first foul called on the terrors in this quarter and into the game comes Julian Davis again as well as JD j tu t'en low free second shot get either rebound terrorists here comes grants Darien Myers top working down inside the lane won't go and he's gonna get a foul called this one on Colton Yeager they're gonna get Yeager on the ground and Wilkinson on the previous possession got the block from behind Wilkinson was going for that block from behind again but the foul was called on the ground on Yeager this is Darien Meyers talaiya Myers a prolific scorer for these terrors has yet to score today with 1:16 left in the first quarter not sure he's done that this year gets his first point is fourth in the conference this season 16 points per game and we've seen him go to the bucket a couple of times we saw him miss an outside shot maybe he can get going with a couple of free throws always helps when you score it's a chance to get to the free-throw line second one good - for - for Darien Myers we're tied at 7 Wilkinson brings it up top of key Jaeger now gets it to hatch over Tatchell drives down the lane against Myers puts it up won't go Myers add the rebound I believe they're gonna get Colton Jaeger and that's two quick fouls on Jaeger well Jaeger just came into the game he came in and replaced Kamran Horton so down in the post that's five fouls already for Pine Creek three on Horton two on Jager yes so Jaeger and Horton have fouled out combine up the court Newton Newton works on loafie gets it up top they'll swing it down to the corner of the grants grants almost loses it comes back baseline gets it out front to Davis Davis is shot up won't go inside Yeager comes down with the rebound heywhat pine creek does a nice job of boxing out on the on the low post haven't given up a whole lot of offensive rebounds but then they come back the other way and they turned the ball over fifth turnover of this game already for Pine Creek 35.8 seconds left in the first quarter Palmer will take the ball let's see what they do here yep Jimmy grants calls out the play five live for one get a good one he wants a good shot to end the quarter if they make it they'll have the lead here on the road you deny a little earlier than coach grants wanted rebound Sabbat Ella Sabbat Ella being hounded by Davis he comes back loafie Satchel missed a shot from way downtown Westfall won't go rebound terrorism here comes grants he sees four seconds shot it a little bit early puts it up good ho Braden grants has just received a technical foul and now so has his dad Jimmy grants a couple of technical fouls there's Jimmy grants his son the sophomore I thought took that shot a little bit earlier but he was arguing that he should have been called for a foul yeah I mean there were it was right here in front of us there was some contact that's a tough one to get but at the end of a half whether just a couple of seconds left letting go on half-court desperation shot but there was contact in front of us and Gloria have some free throws coming up for Pine Creek and I'm wondering if the if Braden Grant's thought he was gonna get the foul and that's why he's shot to get some shots maybe we can get a replay on that we could possibly see but it's 7 to 7 at the end of the first quarter we'll stay right here that's this could change the entire game Dave absolute ethical fouls against the terrorist pine creeks gonna shoot and you know this could this could open up a lead that they could keep the rest of the game it very well could here's that replay here Brian will see there's yeah we couldn't see the end of it Braden grants let that ball go right from golf Clark and didn't see a whole lot of contact on that angle let's take a look at this one right here grants lets it go boy nothing before the shot maybe a little contact after but the ball was well gone by then he gets pushed into the table you'll see ran on this shot here he goes into the scores table just just to the right of us here one more time the ball was well gone the contact was afterwards and no defense to the high school player you see the official right there teeing him up Braden grants immediately turned and said somebody to the officials so that's got to be a technical yeah yep so now shooting Payton Westfall I believe he's gonna come down to the other end Jimmy Grant's getting an explanation from the official that called both technical fouls sure the official telling them exactly what happened exactly what his son said what he saw and what he heard this is Wes fall got the first one Westfall with four points already in this game Jimmy grants continues to have his conversation with the official Oh Westfall that's a big Mis thought he had a chance to give his team a four point lead he can up it to three with this last one yeah got it so six points for Westfall and it'll be Pine Creek basketball really damaging here because if Pine Creek scores it went from a tie ballgame to a five-point lead angles absolutely and this is where Pine Creek and coach Joe Roush he's gonna tell his guys hey let's get a good shot let's get a bucket and let's swing that momentum our way low fee to Bishop inside hatch along the cut gets it to low fee on the side he'll shoot for three won't go and good job by the terrorists now who can cut it into that three-point lead udin across half court gets it to Mack it's got Julian Davis on the left and cutting inside Terrell Crowell nice pick insiders Meijer where they get a call I thought he got his arm up a little bit I thought so too but they're gonna call I'm gonna call this on Blake Wachtel the block boy if the block was there but let's see if the arm comes up here's the replay there's Blake agile Wow when you move your forearm like like Myers did there and then wrap it around it looks worse you can get that call yes Merritt Myers at the free-throw line got the first one three points tonight for the leading scorer for the terrors dairy and minors all three from the free-throw line and it's the next one it's got a shooters touch maybe that might get him going like you said gay loafie brings it up along with sabot ello Westfall on the right it's at the bishop is stolen away by Mac time at it's going right back again my Westfall the Eagles gonna slow it down the Eagles more to slow down run their offense kind of team you saw that opening graphic scoring about forty nine points again low fee download shot up got it max low fee taking over what a nice play there by max loafing he's got a good left and he's gone left twice in this game God inside ends up right up against dari and Meyers who's got about five or six inches on him and he got the soft touch over it Myers comes back the other way baseline and they're gonna count that one as Darien Myers is gonna start to heat up foul will go on March seventh a low his first first field goal of this game for Gary and Myers we'll take a look at it right here Myers goes down to the baseline one on three goes up draws the foul and gets the bucket and I think we're gonna see a whole lot more of that in the second quarter well really the technical fouls really did not hurt the tears here because Darren Meyers has a chance to tie this up got it and does one field goal five from the Lions seven points Wilkinson bring back in the game for Pine Creek as well as Jake Zink in their number 12 for the Eagles down the baseline Wilkinson Sabbat ello shot up got it boy what a nice looking shot there by mark 7l oh I mean he took it came off that screen went straight up with the ball up nice and high knocks down the three Julian Davis passing this one off Gary Myers again top the key good d from Bishop this time and he gets the rebound nice job by Sam Bishop and here come the Eagles Wilkinson Sabbat L wanted it out front again why not Bishop hands to Wilkinson for three shot up got it grant Wilkinson his first bucket of the game he comes into this game averaging just over 10 points per game the second leading scorer on this Eagles team Krewella out front almost stolen away by Wilkinson Hank Meyers picks it up back to crew well inside Darion Meyers they might I'm surprised they're not calling for that hook on that I am to Bryan and we're watching Gary and Meyers play he's a good player but he goes in he uses his hands a little push off to create space a little flip as he's going around the call goes against the Eagles he's making some hay at the free-throw line tonight here's another look at it there he saw his arm but they called Bishop instead and out comes crow L in comes grants has not missed yet tonight from the line five for five five for five 88% on the team top five in the conference and he knocks another one down six love a chance at seven and just when we thought with one minute left in the first quarter he hadn't scored any points yeah it did not take long did it every every possession they've gone to Myers he's gone to the bucket if he doesn't get it he gets the free throws first missed from the stripe Wilkinson with the rebound they've come the Eagles Sabbath hello it looks like here's Westfall for three shot got it Peyton Westfall his second three of this game he's got nine points tonight eight in the Westfall couple of threes one in the first quarter and just knocked that one down folks Joe Roush talked about what team you would see if they might get hot and they're starting to heat up here in the second quarter got a foul called they're gonna get Jake zinc on that foul it was time Mac that went to the bucket and time acts again he's got the ball all the time it seems like he's their point guard he moves up very well that time he saw a little crease he got inside and drew the foul Mac it's the first one senior guard averaging seven point two points two point six rebounds three point three assists per game and I'll bet you but most of those assists he got the ball to be ready you know what if I had a guy like Darien Meyers I'd give it to him all night long let's leave the league in assists absolutely get out of the way Wilkinson's to Bishop he'll turn in face Meyers watches him there and they're gonna call a foul on Myers his first personal foul substitution for Palmer into the game Jaden Bernie he comes in to replace Julian Davis Bernie a tall player for these terrorists be more of a presence in the middle that ball goes off of Sabbat Ellis hands and out of Bounce a tough ball to handle right there grant Wilkinson making that inbounds pass and going to the bounce pass went right off the knees and out of bounds and here comes time asking the terrors once again let's follow diem up and I mean a man-to-man offense right now let's see if they try and get that ball inside to Bernie Bernie trying to post up now sets a pick now he gets the ball inside and might a walk no call rebound Pine Creek Bishop gets it to Wilkinson and they'll slow it down nice job by playing Creek getting in and getting that rebound they do a great job of box it out there ship hands to Wilkinson fakes the step-back goes inside almost blocked by Bernie as he went up and we're gonna get a foul called on the terrorists this is gonna go against Hank Meyers on the ground was on the rebound it looked like Palmer was gonna get that rebound anyway and they called a push off my pliers [Applause] so we'll consider him bound it for the Eagles gets it into the heart gallant eyes in the game for the pine creek the Senior Center for these Eagles and Wilkinson pulls it out and they'll run the offense steal right there by Hank Meyers takes it in on Wilkinson shot up and he slapped the board they used to give you the basket for that but they did the foul to Wilkinson his first here's another look at it nice two great steal right there by Hank Meyers he takes it in and I'll see him go up there's the foul but what a great steal if you reach with the wrong hand you're gonna get called for a foul he goes incorrectly reaches in pokes it away and then takes it the other way and knocks down the first free throw so it's a five-point game you can cut it to four misses that one no rebound by Payton West Falls West fallen Horton not the tallest players on Pine Creek but they get it done shot outside got it you got to get out on marks a Vitello that's his second three to nine absolutely and you can you can just see the confidence right there he pulled up on the dribble straight up top of the key knock down his second three of the game he's got six tonight timac out front being pounded by Westfall gets it over to Peru and back a Mac Savitz hello doing a good job on darien meyers down low they can't get him the ball so they come to Hank Meyers up top in the corner try to get him to Grant's off his hand and out of Bounce well like you said Brian a great job by Sabbat l that's hard to do I mean he was he was playing behind Myers he swung around he got in front of him he confused the passing and subsequently the turnover comes and a substitution for Pine Creek max loafie is back in the game and Wilkinson went out oh no excuse me Wilkinson brings the ball up it was Westfall that went out gets a Botello Zink who can also shoot the three Wilkinson low fee and galantine galantine tried to give it the low key threw it out about well he can't miss Hart galantine out there the Senior Center six foot ten that time he was a little I think out of his comfort zone he was out at the high post out at the top of the key and he thought is his teammate was going one way went the other and threw it out of bounds and I'm guessing his socks are mismatched by design just a guess Ty Mac tries to get in on Valentine if he gets a block yeah that's it that's a tough place to be there's a good shot of time Mac right there time Mac is five foot eight and we'll get a look at him go into the bucket a lot of contact before the play and then the ball goes up and galantine swats it away this is what Mac I'm sure was yeah speedy the official about Mac sends it in good job by Myers kicks it to grants - Hank Meyers behind the back nice moves inside Bernie drop step can't get it to go galentine's gonna get call for the foul and you know you look at Hart galantine right there with his height in that long wingspan if he goes straight up he gets the block it's when you swing that arm down you get called for the foul and picks up the foul on the play actually they called they found it Wilkins the ground yeah his second Bernie's first shot good another one coming down 7 and when well off did not hit the cylinder and they'll get the ball underneath this a patella low field bring it up back up front garden low if he gets it to galantine Valentine hounded by Bernie Zink Sabbat ello galantine down low against Bernie puts it up gonna get the foul sound a good line you just knew they were gonna get galantine post it up he popped out on the wing took the ball kicked it right away went down on the low block takes the entry pass will get a look at it right here there's gallant a he got fouled about three times on the play once on the ground once on the shot this is Hart galantine at the line rolls around now touched every side of the room twice falls down another shot trying to push this lead to eight points for Pine Creek won't go and we've got a line violation I believe they called that on the shooter on galantine even if it went it does have some large sneakers maybe it's the socks I don't know timac across half court two grants look for Darien Myers I keep doing a great job on Darien Myers habits hello darling them up now here comes time act ass outside work it around grants and Hank Myers Gary and Myers was open for a minute get it back to Braden grants thought about it send it to timeout deep downtown won't get it offensive rebound by Bernie nice pass inside Hank Meyers he'll go up and score I don't know how he got that one off I don't know how he got it off and no fell a lot of contact in a good job by Hank Meyers have coming right down the lane gets the rebound goes right to the basket cuts it to five there's a steal by Bernie Jaden Bernie will slow it down and wait for his teammates good job as Palmer tries to battle back into this game grants out front can't get it to go rebound loaf he brings it forward fake Jimmy grants Wanda a little more time off the clock on that one he was screaming to move the ball around and a quick shot went up down low inside that is zinc can't get it Wilkinson inside for the rebound now to loafie thought about it gets it back out to wilkinson I'm Creek will take their time with a five-point lead coming down to the final minute of the first half Wilkinson can't get it nice steal time at the terrace takes it up and in count that one as Wilkinson tried to stop him but you cannot stop time Mack on that one well a good strong move to the basket by Ty Mac gets the steal back-to-back steals on possessions here's a good look at it right here there's the steal time Mac coming right into your living room goes up draws the contact gets the bucket and he will go to the line he's got 5 points tonight looking for number 6 you know what was most impressive on that day Adam Drake the cameraman below the basket didn't even flinch no stayed with it the whole time good job down there Mac at the free-throw line misses this one and Pine Creek gets the rebound low feet brings it forward Westfall Myers on it it's Bishop out front working on Bernie almost stolen away by Mac now into the game Andrew rapier four five Creek number one that one goes off West Falls hands Meyers picks it up and the terrors come back Jimmy Grant says one again get it over to Myers and work it around back up top three-point deficit right now for Palmer Jimmy grants wants one shot 20 seconds left in this half we'll see if they set up a play here for Gary and Myers Jaden Bernie he's at the top of the key he sets a pick Mac cuts inside it goes down the lane and scores how about time act nice ball screen time max set it up perfectly goes in little traffic he got the shot off and then he steals the ball at half court from Westfall as time expires coach josh is on Westfall he wanted to get a shot off but that's the way the half will end the pine creek eagles have a one-point lead 24 to 23 against the Palmer terrors will come back with our halftime show right after this on twenty TV you excellence comes in many forms shooting sound and precision and the discipline to get better every day 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came back behind ty Mack steals and buckets all night long that's what I Mac did the second part of that second quarter him going to the basket right there he gets fouled had nine points in the first half he did a great job and then right before the close of the half drove down inside with a couple seconds left and got that basket to go and that's where we are 24 to 23 we will come back with the second half of this one from Pine Creek High School after this on 20 TV you the world around us is wide open with plants and birds and animals and possibilities Academy district 20 prepares students for the world ahead by striving for excellence in everything we do from our great teachers to the unique variety of learning opportunities we provide if that sounds like an environment where your child can thrive then choose excellence choose Academy district 20 visit ASD 20 org to learn more you back inside Pine Creek High School Brian German alongside Dave Toller we're about to start second-half action the Eagles with a one-point lead and they will start with the basketball at one point in this Brian Pine Creek had an eight-point lead good job by Palmer they did it on the defensive end creating turnovers going back the other way draw and fouls and being solid from the free throw line same starting lineup for both teams in this one here comes Westfall Cameron Orton back in the game with three fouls for Pine Creek you got those three fouls early Wilkinson up top to loafie and the Eagles I'm sure and coach Joe Roush they were just want to run their offense like they've been doing this score more apt for their game than Palmer loafie inside shot up Oh won't go nice tip to himself at this time is Darion Meyers he runs it down in the corner low fees got a couple of offensive rebounds in this game it looked like he was gonna get another one right there a good job by Myers going up getting his fourth rebound of this game Hank Meyers gets it Darion Meyers in the corner shot up off the top of the backboard that's out of bounds Julian Davis senior guard couldn't get it to go and again down low for Pine Creek a good look at Sam Bishop who was down there boxing out and there's Bishop right there boxing out even if that ball had come down Bishop was in great position for the rebound Wilkinson comes forward Pine creeks got to be fortunate to the one-point lead at halftime when your starter Cameron Horton was out for much of that first half with those three fouls cutting low get it over to loafie on the side shot up good count it from 3x loafie has nine tonight hits his first three from deep in the corner here comes timac back up the court for the teres did Davis fakes to grants in the quarter but on the side - Hank Meyers out top way downtown shot won't go rebound Bishop coach grant says come on we talked about that I don't think that's a shot he wanted from timac that was a quick shot as well and Jimmy grants have been saying the whole game let's move the ball around get a good look shot up from Wilkinson won't go mac tip the rebound to Myers here comes time aking nice moves takes it in the lane shot up won't go it's a tough shot right there for Mac he's coming down the right side tried to go up and under the hoop and spin it with the left hand he got it up off the board but a little too much English on that one Mac needs a look around maybe for some teammates when he makes that penetration Wilkinson shot up note Mac off his hand out of bounds of the stay with Pine Creek when Mac was down there all by himself looked like he could have had that rebound and tie Mac is gonna come out of the game je tu t'en comes in for Palmer Mac smiled a little bit he knows why he's coming to sit down low fee he just told coach Krantz that's a shot I usually make which is what every players gonna say their shooters mentality Gareth Orton max low fee cuts inside nice pass behind Myers kappa ship for the bucket boy what a great pass by max low fee he's done a nice job getting to the bucket in this game he drew everybody to him and little drop-off with the left hand for loafie on the board is Sam Bishop his first bucket of this game Davis in the corner here comes Myers little push-off and Bishop right there and he's gonna get called for the foul I tell you Jerry and Myers uses his hands a lot on offense the offensive player will say he's creating some space the defensive player will say it's a push off Myers again at the line got this one made his first six in a row then missed one we'll see if he can make at least these two in a row ninth free throw of the game gets it he's got ten tonight those are little for those of you at home they didn't want to do the quick math thanks day that was that that was the dead air that was us counting it takes the soil yeah Bishop up top turns gets it to low fee thought about it now takes uten inside in the lane shot up got it max low fee he could be dangerous max low fee is feeling that he's got five in this half had a nice assist on that previous possession and puts the Eagles up by six they're in Myers out top working on Bishop shot up wanted the foul there no call rebound here comes Pine Creek will consider down the lane nice pass get it to Horton out top Bishop they'll work it around this guy low field shoot it can't get it to go and Orton does a good job chasing down that rebound Pine Creek still alive on the offensive end six-point lead wilkinson baseline low fee for three won't go Darian Myers with the rebound errors come back up the other way you'd to Hank Myers he'll go in can't get it to go get the foul called see who they called this on are they gonna get yeah they can get Bishop as the referee says to the head with the foul so going to the free-throw line is Hank Meyers he is 3 for 4 tonight that's bishops third now for Pine Creek wonder if coach Roush will go to the bench there Hank Meyers first one up is good Meijer 4 for 5 from the free-throw stripe tonight Palmer scoring a lot of their points from the free-throw line tonight two more for Hank Meyers timac comes back into the game he'll replace Julian Davis Hank Meyers now has seven points for the terrorists and Pine Creek comes back loafie up top well if you're working on Mac Mac almost stole that one away loaf he gets it back up Oh can't get it to go Mac tips it Hank Meyers comes down with it quickly up the court one on three he'll slow down jtu tonight outside I look at Hank Meyers inside working on wilkinson but it comes down to low fee low fee nice moves gets it back out to Westfall tried to cut in there and they're gonna call a foul inside on time ACK his second he is so quick well he as you look back at that other side Max loafie got the rebound it was a great job by Grant Wilkinson and here's a look at the foul right there back to live action Wilkinson in the corner for Pine Creek tried to get it to important work it out to low fee low fee outside shot up good max low fee feeling it tonight he is on fire eight in this half he's got 14 in the game he came into the game averaging seven points a game already with 14 puts the Eagles up 6 time ack out front Braden grants grants drives on Westfall trying to get it across inside the Myers and it's kicked out of there taken by Pine Creek low if he was on the run Wilkinson looked at him takes it himself shot up and go great Wilkinson while grant Wilkinson does a little bit of everything he's got eight points in this game five rebounds couple of steals Jimmy grants wants a timeout pine creek has an eight point lead we'll take it as well we'll be back with more from this basketball game in just a moment on 20 TV you third quarter winding down here at Pine Creek High School and the Eagles have an eight-point lead Brian German alongside Dave Toller the Palmer terrors will have the basketball and Dave they need to get some offense going they've got back into this basketball game in the first half by causing turnovers yeah they did and they're gonna have to do that and when you talk about those turnovers Brian 10 turnovers in this game for Pine Creek just three for Palmer they cashed in on a lot of those turnovers we'll see if they can turn up the intensity on the defensive end Mack the dairy and Myers up top Myers gonna work on Bishop cuts inside and they are gonna call it foul man he is tough going through there he is they're gonna get Sam Bishop with the foul and he just stepped in a little late that's four fouls for the senior forward Sam Bishop and he is gonna stay in the game against Darian Myers don't be surprised if they they're gonna call that one on Darian Myers who stepped out late to try and set a screen on that one that's his second foul and now Bishop will come out of the game he's got those four fouls Colton Jaeger will replace him Joe Roush now speaking the official the game within the game the coaches and the officials Jager outside shot up won't go rebound Mack timac almost had it stolen by Horton quickly keeps possession Hank Meyers download walked out of bounds by Yeager he's trying to get it over to crow al a good job by Yeager just coming through with his hands up and they teach you keep your hands active that time you got a piece of it Meyers out to Grant's they swing it then the corner shot up Mac won't go down Wilkinson at Pine Creek they'll try and built and make this a 10 or 11 point lead low fee up top gets in the lane nice ball movie Yeager thought about it goes on Myers and look out cuz Darien Myers now has three fouls in this basketball game back-to-back possessions Derry and Myers gets the offensive foul on the moving screen on one end and comes back down boy it was great ball movement good screens by Pine Creek if he were to foul out of this game that would be huge Wilkinson shot up the rebound crow L and I get it to Mac Mac comes across the time line quickly can you get to Hank Meyers going baseline tried to drop it off comes to Braden grants dance a little bit upset as Westfall was on the ground hacking at the ball dodo fried into his legs and it was Braden grants was trying to maintain possession Jimmy grants the coach is yelling for some call on the plane no call and the position will stay with Palmer and Darien Myers comes out with those three fouls grants will probably keep him out the remainder of this third quarter ty Mack gets it inbounds to paint Myers with a crow well inside nice swing grants may have gotten away with a walk there comes inside can't get it to go but he will draw the foul there was a lot of feet moving on that look for Braden grants and he wanted the shot he can knock down that three-pointer instead he takes it into the end of the paint draws the foul on Braden grants goes to the free-throw line now it looks like it's on Colton Yeager his third Braden grants first shot got it imagine easy good free-throw shooter tell me he's presenting today he is a great free throw shooter 73% on the season second one up and good that will help out that percentage thinks about that giving grants as I recall is a really good free-throw shooter which would be 90% yes it is early in the season Wilkinson brings it forward and back into the game galantine gave him a nice screen don't work it out Westfall shot up won't go rebound Mac and there's a foul it's gonna be called probably on max loafie and it will though they gave Wilkinson the foul he called on wilkinson he did and Wilkinson hung his head the second he called it because that's his for yeah and that and that's yeah they Joe Roush is arguing it that it was on max loafie yeah and not Wilkinson and they are going to change it and that's that's the right loop he did have the foul yeah there was no doubt I mean as I was saying if he had a foul big smile on the face of Grant Wilkinson who does not pick up his fourth no last three time ACK brings it up just a six-point game just cross over cross over back to Hank Meyers Grant's thinking about it top Mack Hill shoot that shot and it's gonna go in time ACK for three from deep deep water holy Callum banks it 12 points now for Mack at three-point game Wilkinson thought about it gets it to Westfall down the lane shot the low feed low fee for the corner don't go rebound looks like I don't know thing gonna call that yep they're gonna call that one on wilkinson yeah they're gonna call a hold on him my Jimmy Grant's the coach of Palmer he wanted a call earlier hold on on Wilkinson they called that one so after he picked up his fourth they took it away now he does get his fourth and that Wilkinson will come out of the game marks a Vitello will come in and Julian Davis comes in for Hank Meyers on the palmar side so Braden grass and Mac bring it up down three is Palmer working on the side of crow L up top Mac he's shot from here before down the corner Davis now grants I swing to Mac Mac shot up got it ty Mac is on fire he's got 15 the night back-to-back 3s and this game is tied up 35 all Mac's loafie now with the ball for Pine Creek nice moves against Mac spinning turning get it to galantine should have gone up with it gets instead of the corner of the horn now to galantine shot up won't go knocked out of there comes to Pine Creek ten seconds left in this quarter Westphal up top seven seconds drives on grants inside against Braden puts it up and he's going to get a foul called and almost take out Adam Drake in the process our photographer underneath the basket and Adam Drake staying with the shot again paintin Westfall getting to the bucket goes all the way and draws the foul and the shot went hard off the backboard has a tough shot to make but he draws the foul and Peyton Westfall goes to the line he has nine tonight good shot a Jimmy Grant's there the head coach for Palmer this is Westfall shot up won't get this one to fall Dave I'm telling you when we have a 20 TB all-star basketball game I want Adam Drake on my team because he's gonna take a charge every time that's right second shot now for Westfall trying to give Pine Creek belief back but he does 36 35 3.2 seconds what can Palmer do with it grants we already saw a shot from half court from Braden grants here he comes again shot up and it will not go 36 35 we got a one-point game after three quarters the Pine Creek Eagles have that lead we'll be back with 4th quarter action after this on 20 TV you back inside concrete there's a good look at Joe Roush his bunch of eagles and Joe getting his team ready they have they've had sizable leads in this basketball game at every single time Palmer has come back Palmer's been chasing the scoreboard this entire game and it was 7-7 at the end of the first quarter Pine Creek was up one at the half they're up 1 entering the fourth quarter here and it just seems like a game that Pine Creek it's a lead palmer comes back pine creek it's a lead palmer comes back we'll see what the fourth quarter brings darien myers back in the game jimmy grants at him there for the end of the third quarter now Braden grants down low they're gonna call the foul on the floor they will get 23 Payton Westfall with the foul his first of the game and it's a 1 in 1 for the terrors the terrors have four fouls in this half Pine Creek has 7 don't go rebound Horton and here comes max loafie Palmer backs off defensively here low feet inside on Myers I like that I like the play Colton Yeager gets his first basket of the game but I like loafie challenging Myers trying to get the fourth foul on their key player absolutely a low fee had a great third quarter had 8 points early in that quarter gets to the basket doesn't get the shot to go down but Yeager follows it Myers drives baseline shot up over Yeager can't get it to go rebound Horton how good is Cameron Horton on the boards for Pine Creek here comes low fee to Yeager in the corner shot up got it Colton Yeager scored five straight points five in the game and five unanswered Colton Jaeger has looked at that shot a couple of times tonight he's passed on at that time he did not have puts Eagles up 6 Darren Meyers who bumped a bump by Yeager as time act tried to set the screen and went down hard it's a good look at Yeager Colton Yeager picks up the foul I think that's his fourth it is so a little foul trouble for Pine Creek Yeager with four fouls Bishop has four fouls and Mac at the line got first the Eagles jump down to that quick six point lead to start the fourth quarter Terry's trying to bounce back and that's gonna be a foul off the miss that's a foul against Terrell Crowell here's his first foul of this game Mac with the miss at the line he's got 16 tonight came in averaging seven pretty good night for time act maxchloe won't go rebound Darian Meyers inside big rebound for their player and here comes Braden grants across the time line back looking for a cutter they get it down inside to Davis work it back outside by Mac shot up and get that foul he goes down the wolf that may have been Yeager's fifth foul they were battling pretty good down there that could have went either way that is going to go against koel Wow even I looked at Yeager I looked at Yeager and he thought he was done tough call there for the terrorists here comes Horton working around the westfall get to spin by grants and hits that bucket nice play by Peyton Westfall using the right hand to get in the lane and Jimmy grants wants a timeout 4336 will keep it right here 608 left in the fourth quarter Dave and how does Pine Creek keep the terrorists from coming back this time well why you got to watch out for time Mac I mean he shoots that thing from everywhere and early in the game he was missing in that third quarter he hit back-to-back threes and when you do that that gets you back in it quickly but this fourth quarter playing out just like this entire game has Pine Creek builds a lead Palmer comes back we'll see if if Pine Creek will slow down that comeback of the terrors and in the beginning there it looked like Joe Roush was telling his team to go at Darien Meyers do you think they'd continue that tactic as well to maybe get the terrorists best ball player out of the game yeah they very well might and they went at him a couple of times with Mac's low fee and he's got three fouls in this game he's only got one field goal comes in fourth in the league in scoring averaging 16 points a game he does have ten points in the game eight of those from the line tonight here comes Palmer Braden grants along with Hank Meyers back in the game for a well up top with Davis and Darien Meyers mom runs the office Darian Mayer says get this ball over here and get it to me inside Darian Meyers up won't go but he did get the foul it's gonna be on Cameron Horton and that's gonna be his fourth now well Cameron Horton has played so well when he's been in there he hits the glass fired he picked up three quick fouls here's a good luck there's Horton at the back there's Myers and when you go down to minors he's a load he's a strong explosive player he gets up to the bucket he draws the foul and he goes to the line first shot up won't go for dairy and Myers it's just his second miss from the line tonight if my numbers serve me correctly my numbers in my eyes second shot is there in the double bonus they'll be shooting two from now on misses again three misses from the line to Derry Myers and a foul on the plane that's gonna be crow elegantly he's picked up three quick ones in this in this second half two big misses there by Darien Myers he got a good look when he went in the ball just didn't go down but he missed the free throw and coming back down the other way Cameron Horton at the line for Pine Creek and we're gonna have free throws the rest of the night here Cameron Horton first thing good that's a good way to be the team to make free throws when the other team doesn't it really is I mean you look at one end you miss a couple of free throws and then coming down Cameron Horton knocks down the first one here's the second go rebound inside by sabot L oh but he couldn't get it to go and Palmer comes back Darien Myers brings it up himself gonna work against camp prints two guys with four fouls kicks it outside couldn't get it to go Crowe L and Pine Creek gets the rebound max loafie and it's an eight-point Pine Creek lead we've been here before look it inside get it out to Horton he'll shoot for three can't get it to go Gary Myers another rebound [Applause] I'm max it to come back into game that's no foul call to sabot ello had it there and they're gonna call Hank Meyers with the foul Jimmy Grant's has had enough he's resigned himself there on the bench you could see him on the left on your screen he is just gonna watch the rest of this one not complaining yeah a little frustration right there dairy and minors thought he was fouled on that plane instead we come down to the other end and free throws coming up for Pine Creek Marx Abbott a low at the line anti Mac comes back in for Julian Davis well you knew points had to come from somewhere for Palmer because Isaiah Robinson we mentioned earlier on in the broadcast out with strep throat Sam until his first shot is good and Ty Mac has really stepped into that void awful tough you take Robinson out of the game almost 16 points per game and somebody does have to step up tight max had a heck of a game tonight sabot ello misses the second one here comes Palmer down nine now it in the corner Pro out here comes Mack trying to cut back to crow well he'll shoot for three got it Tyrell occur out first points of the game and that's a big bucket as he knocks down the three cuts that Eagles lead to six loafie up top working on Hank Meyers it's an out important down low Jager Jager nice bounce turns around shot up good Colton Jager seven points all here yeah good looking shot nice head fake spins back around and gets the little hook shot in the lane timac Crowe L inside Meyers back outside Hank Meyers in the corner Braden grants shot up got it Palmer starting to heat up writing grants knocks down the three but that was all because of Derry and Myers down low and he got the ball in the paint everybody collapsed on him good job by Palmer kicking it out grants hits the three Colton Jager just picked up an offensive foul that's his fifth he is out of this basketball game you see the frustration on his face clothes basketball game five points four minutes 11 seconds yet Jaeger will have a seat and Wilkinson comes back in he has four fouls as well Bishop comes in Westfall goes out and that's a big loss here's a good look at it yeah they called the foul there on Jager and Gail Yeager's he's got 7 points in this quarter and he has done for the night we talked about the terrors or Pine Creek possibly going against Darien Myers to get his five fouls Hank Meyers shot up alt go Derry and Myers tips it out four rebounds a botella Sabbah teller to Wilkinson inside Bishop nice walk with a basketball loafie shot got it three points from max loafie the palmer doesn't like that one at all but nice job by loafie knocking down that shot he's got three threes this half and 17 points in the game for max loafie and it's still an eight-point lead for Pine Creek lost the basketball time act quickly up ahead loafie blocked out of bounds great job by Hank Meyers to get back defensively and he called it foul and they called a foul on Hank Meyers let's take a look again well I don't know that looks like a pretty good block Myers look like he came over the top of the body and got all ball we've got the Palmer bench next to us they don't like it but max loafie at the line they haven't liked a lot of things tonight first shot misses second shot for loafie to try and give Pine Creek that nine-point lead it's been the biggest of the game got it here comes Palmers time running out on the terrace if they come forward closing in on three minutes left in the fourth quarter Gary Myers doubled up gets it in the corner to grants he'll shoot over wilkinson won't go rebound throw well good job at Tyrell Crowell getting inside getting the offensive rebound the putback yeah nice play he's got five in this half Wilkinson de loafie back to Wilkinson and Pine Creek will try and slow it down they've already scored two points more than their average this season shot by Sava Telo ill-advised doesn't draw iron and here comes Palmer back the other way Mack shot up once the foul that won't get it timeout Jim he grants it was up I thought he was complaining about the foul but I guess he just wanted a timeout give a 30-second timeout we're seeing some splendid performances tonight Dave boy we are I mean Ty and Mac is just yet big shot after big shot and Brian you said ill-advised shot down here by Pine Creek just as you said the Eagles were gonna slow things down shot out of the corner by set italo doesn't go betters the pull-up by time agate went IMAX stepped up big time there's another look there's a deep three he had earlier in this half time at doing a great job for Palmer 19 points for ty Mac I'd say single-handedly keeping his team in the game at least he has he's made steals and buckets and got kept his team within five points on the other side Mac's low fee for Pine Creek his friend the man he says he yeah 17 points tonight for Mac's low fee a couple of guys that average about seven points a game Max and loafie have stepped up for their teams tonight Maximo Jackson I just realized that good report tonight the Pine Creek girls basketball team defeated Palmer down downtown Colorado Springs at Palmer high school Sam Bishop inside gets it out to Wilkinson Wilkinson down the lane shot up got it big timely bucket from grant Wilkinson that's the play that you want and you can see Pine Creek slowed it down that time they got Wilkinson in an isolation we got the low up crow well looking inside to Myers won't do it but he might shoot that now they get it down the corner Gary Myers it's gonna dribble inside has to go the other way behind loafie shot up he's gonna get the foul called and that might be on Westfall I think it will if it is that will be only get on player that's know that's right there is no 3131 got fouled on the play no no he called it on Horton which will be his fit while we thought that was less faulty really and on there 23 instead of 32 but it will give that to horn let's take another look at this it is yep Horton pixels question the stripes right right Darian Myers [Music] John the freezer line missed his last two got this one that looked more like it shooters touched that time yeah he missed those last two he gets it's a little Redemption right here trying to cut it to five under two minutes left in this game that's 14 points tonight for dairy and minors just two below his average he's got 12 of those from the line tonight just one field goal for dairy and Meyers but he's finding other ways to get on the scoresheet loafie working on Mac time Mac is stolen a couple of those in the first half to get Palmer within one at the halftime whistle there's low fee nice leave out front for Pine Creek trying to run it [Applause] does some acting they're gonna call it on Sam Bishop here as well fouls out of this basketball game here's a good look at it oh boy look look like to us Bishop was set up and I'm not even sure there was a whole lot of contact there but certainly credit time at little gamesmanship and he knew it he's got a huge smile on his face as he's walking her on the court he just threw the foul take another look at it right here that is the fifth foul of the game on Sam Bishop three Eagles have fouled out in this game Bishop Yeager and Horton have all fouled out blake Achille comes in to replace Sam Bishop and it's a five-point game at Palmer has the ball we'll see what Jimmy grants wants his team to do Gary Myers quick turn shot up won't go rebound Wilkinson they wanted Myers to drive to the bat basketball lots of no calls right now Pacha with the ball back to wilkinson Wilkinson and Hank Meyers that's at the Sabbat Ellis and foul him that'll be on Julian Davis that's his first foul if you like on people to foul go ahead and have him foul somebody good ball movement there by Pine Creek and we saw at the last position as well just working a little three-man weave up front and you know the Palmer could see that there is gonna run some time off they went for the quick foul and they put sabot a low at the line shot up and good four marks a Vitello in comes crow el outcomes Julian Davis Sabbat Ella shut up got it [Applause] here comes time act as we come into the final minute of this basketball game in a regulation Mac up top for three won't go rebound inside Hank Meyers we got a whistle and a foul and that is going to be called on hatch oblique Achille sophomore forward his second personal foul and it's going to be Terrell crow L going to the line his first trip to the line tonight battling down for the rebound and Hatcher picked up his second shot off time quickly becoming me nemesis of Palmer got the second one Julian Davis comes back in for crow L offense for defense defense for office yep and sabot L oh and Palmer will run a press Hank Meyers on Wilkinson Mac on loafie Westphal comes forward sabot ello gets it inbounds to hatch 'l natural being guarded by myers and they get it back to loafie wilfy quickly stolen away by mac how about time mac two more points for him and we've got a timeout by Jimmy Grant's 55-51 Palmer calls a timeout Dave let's keep it right here how about iMac oh my goodness is that his third or fourth steal layup of the game just picks the pocket on Macs loafie takes it in and gets the layup and we were just saying before loafie made a play to come across little crossover move earlier and he beat Mac with it not that time Mac with the steal takes it in for the layup and cuts that Eagles lead to four points loaf he's got to be hating that as well because they were on a full-court press he got the ball told everyone to go I got this I got this I don't got this and Pine Creek did everything right a man-to-man press blake hatch won't sprint it all the way up got the ball when the big guy gets the ball everybody says give it to a guard he did he gave it to Mac slow feet they gotta clear out a nice play by timac he's had a he's had a great game and he's kept his team in this one he certainly has we'll see what fine freakin Joe Roush have to do now to beat this press maybe they want to keep someone else back to help against if ty Mac is guarding the man with a ball we may see a little ball screen coming up here to just get time back off of Mac's movement you have to watch out for that too because the officials have been calling it Irina's fouls against Pine Creek there's Mac slope or excuse me time ACK and it'll be Sabbath hello to inbound the ball they get it in to Wilkinson Hank Meyers is on him riding him up the court doesn't foul him yet and that ball goes out of bounds tough break there for Pine Creek and Palmer offense for defense Julian Davis comes out crow al comes back in here we go good hustle by Hank Meyers are playing with his feet not his hands he got in front of Wilkinson that time and played turnovers knack driving down the lane they're gonna call loafie for a foul out front Mack will be shooting free throws Max loafie called for the foul his third of the game and even max loafie looked up he put his hands up I'm not sure he touched it what a great move by timac little little hesitation little head fake and he goes to the free-throw line misses the first that's a tough break for time ax Palmer has missed some big free throws in this fourth quarter still if he makes this they're down three get it to a one possession game got it and again Julian Davis for crow el here comes the press for palmer pine creek if you're pine creek fan you're on the edge of your seat right now Palmer's done a great job causing turnovers tonight SATA tella wants a timeout he'll go over and talk it over with your ouch we'll take a timeout this time excuse me well it's 30 seconds they'll keep it right here Dave it seems to me this is kind of a prime opportunity maybe where you bring all of your players into the frontcourt to try and break these press then send someone long absolutely and if nothing else if you don't hit the baseball pass for the layup at least you can draw some people back and maybe drop some of those Palmer players back the other way but what a great press that's been set up by Palmer they've forced turnovers on back-to-back possessions done a great job of that there's another look at the bow on max loafie he comes forward and Wow that was such a good move by timac he couldn't even be fouled on it yet he drew the foul so remarks a Vitello to try and aim down the ball and you can see all the eagles ready to come forward sabot ella gets it into low feet low feet up the court Hank Meyers just stole that basketball gets it to Braden grants and there's a foul on loafie and actually that might play better to pine creeks hands then just let palmer having the basketball yeah the only thing it does do is palmer gets a chance to score without that clock ticking but how about hake myers back-to-back turnovers he is forced on possessions three straight times Palmer has turned the ball over now loafie now joins the fourth foul club for Pine Creek Hank miner shot good heck Myers an impressive player he just hustles out there then a little bit of everything tonight points rebound steals good all-around player hate Myers eight points for Myers couldn't get the rebound I gotta call him with the foul I believe eight points for a guy that usually averages three and a half and that is on and Myers his fourth foul and this will send max loafie to the line like max loafie does a good job of getting in he's got quick feet he got up got the rebound put two hands on the basketball to protect it draws the foul and max loafie to the line big free throws for max wants to get at least one of these got the first ball throw well in for Davis and this is a large free throw Jimmy Grant's still coaching for Palmer telling time Mac to get that ball up the court up and good low fee four-point lead for Pine Creek here comes time act he's gonna shoot from way downtown won't go rebound crow up inside lost the basketball give it to Pine Creek Terrell Crowe L lost the basketball after the offensive rebound Julian Davis comes back in for well can't believe it he's trying to go back up and get that quick two and just a little too quick as he bounced it off his leg Sava teller with the ball hung creek trying to get it inbounds timeout again the Eagles got to be a little wary here Joe rauch quickly up calls for a 30-second timeout they're having a tough time getting that ball inbounds and Brian just as we are talking about sin and that guy deep I think Pine Creek was gonna do that they just ran out of time to baton Westphal started that play at midcourt he ran all the way into the free throw line stopped and turned to go back get away when the timeout was called that that ball was released he'd get a layup going the other way we'll see if Joe Roush and his team can could set up something to break this press a moment Jimmy grants there's two around say what they're both earning their coaching money tonight well I tell you what there's been a good basketball game I mean that the whole way the story has been Pine Creek it's the league lead Palmer catches right back up and they're doing that again here in the fourth quarter seventeen point four left Sabbat ello as loafie opened gets him the ball Loki takes his time mac right there almost Alden no call Wilkinson coming right by us they try and foul him they finally get the call and they might get eight Myers for his fifth foul of this basketball game yeah I think they will Brian well we had our hands up we we could have got a ball a player could have had anybody coming right over in front of us Hank Meyers gets called for the foul that is his fifth good night tonight for Hank Meyers yeah we needed to Adam Drake the photographer over here to get a block in front of us right because we were jumping out of the way over here good job by Hank Meyers can't believe he says I got five as he comes out it's good look at him going to the bench Wilkinson trying to put the seal the deal here for Pine Creek misses the first I like both of these teams tonight missing some big free throws in this fourth quarter second shot to make it a five-point game won't go rebound Myers quickly to Mac Mac across the time line he's gonna take it inside trying it to quick ones I think Hall offensive foul what a great job standing in and getting the call Payton mess for a nice play by Payton Westphal he was camped out there I think when Mac came across half court he he just planted his feet he's set up and takes some courage to stand in there when you got a guy come in full speed at ya Payton Westfall did that player control foul so Westfall will not go to the line it's a four-point game four seconds left so Pinetree can get this ball inbounds pretty much seals the deal see if they throw the deep ball right here sat at L oh there goes Westfall they get it inbounds to Wilkinson and a foul by udin his first and fine Creek Wilkinson will go to the line he just missed two I can't imagine him doing that again well they they were I mean to talk about being on line they were both short so I'll see if he can a little more legs into this shot bend your knees is what I always used to say did no problem with direction just got to get it up over the front rim it's a five-point game this'll make it six ten points for Grant Wilkinson quickly inside Davis Hill shoots from half-court shot up won't go and that's the way it'll end to Pine Creek battles Palmer as the terrorists fall - Owen 6 in Metro League play they fall the 6 and 11 overall pine creek moves to 9 and 6 2 & 3 in the Metro League the final score 59 53 for dave Toller and our entire 20 TV crew i'm brian german saying so long for Pine Creek High School we'll see you next time on 20 TV
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good evening and welcome inside Discovery Canyon High School for this girl's high school match up from two for a team's discovery Canyon Thunder and the Pueblo East Eagles my name's Brian German alongside Dave Toller they're getting to the starting lineups right now a day but this on paper looks like a pretty good basketball game DCC coming into four and one Pretlow East a few less games but they're 2 and 1 on the season yeah exactly Brian each team has just one loss but that one loss for each of these teams has come against one of the top five teams in the state enough and an interesting match if you got a DCC team that's played great defense this season allowing about 30 points a game you have a pleb lowest offense averaging over 50 a game should be a great matchup tonight should be a lot of fun let's get to the starting lineup for the Pueblo East Eagles it'll be Evelyn Valdes along with a Jana V Hill Natasha Rubio Rianna Cox and Riley Harding Harding the one to stop on pueblos east team number 33 for them she scores 21 points a game and for Discovery Canyon Brianna Smith number three Julia Carter is 12 Abigail Gannon 22 Kristina Schnabel 33 and the one everyone has seen right there in the middle of your screen Ashton prek ttle who's just a junior but she stands 6 foot 5 the tallest police tape player according to our stats is 5 foot 9 so you might have a little problem with that yeah they just might and I just said Brian just a junior first-team all-conference player last year as a sophomore and she wins the tip a little bit of a quick jump there by Cox discovery candy well working around on the side Brianna Smith comes inside there's a steal by Pueblo East and they're quickly up the court get it to Harding and they're gonna call her for a walk with the basketball she didn't get it down fast enough and we're still at 0-0 and my partner Dave Pollard trying to get them to start the clock they're having an issue with the clock as well and those and they're gonna run ten seconds off quickly and this will be discovery County basketball looks like blue East setting up to press and Breanna Smith will do the honors of inbounding the basketball quickly they come inside they've broken the press all the way down court Gannon Gannon up won't go Peck till the offensive rebound putback to nothing and that's what Ashton fractal does she averages almost fifteen points ten rebounds a game and you could see her running the floor very well at six-foot-five Harding on the corner to Valdez go work it around that's Rubio up top now to be Hill Harding they have to watch her she could shoot from anywhere as we mentioned 21 points a game and it's rebound down by Schnabel but Lewis backs off Smith gets it over to Carter who brings it across the time line inside to Kristina Schnabel second leading scorer on this team nice pass from freckle got away from her shot up won't go p-- rectal trying to get that off as a rebound has it puts it up won't go gets her own rebound up again can't get it Schnabel's their count it a hoop and some harm she's gonna go to the free-throw line three-point play Ashton pretzel patting the stats a few rebounds why exactly Brian that's what we thought with the size of this discovery Canyon team like we mentioned prick dolt six five novels five foot nine pushing five foot ten and you look at those two underneath they're gonna crash the board hard all night and they picked up three offensive rebounds on that last possession Nidal misses the free throw and out comes Rubio for East I'll get it - Harding up top Harding Rubio Cox and Vee he'll put up most of the points for Pretlow East this year inside Rubio shot up oh just misses it practically gets the rebound we're off and running Ganon brings it back the other way they will set it up inside fractal good job by Rubio getting back on defense here comes Harding trying to draw a foul there impress with Harding quite athletic Rubio up top and how to get it to Harding on the side she'll think about it it's discovery Canyon stays back in that zone shot up won't go rebound Smith discovery kandi just taking their time which they do most of this year they they don't mind just making sure they get a good shot down inside prec ttle puts it up but in speaking of a good shot that's a pretty good shot right there when you can get it down - temp rectal on the block four points now for prec ttle and you you can imagine that that's what Coach Heath Kirkham wants to do because Pueblo has such a height disadvantage in this game shut up or Rubio Kotik etosha Rubio gets a three and cuts the lead in half practical comes back to help against the press and now Smith will bring it forward had a player down low can't get it stolen away coming back the other way as Valdes Luiz working around this discovery caning zone if they could keep hitting threes they might pull the Thunder out Valdez up top fractal pretty much just hidden down inside in this 131 zone get it down low shot up blocked partially by prick though they're gonna call her with a foul it'll be Rihanna Cox going to the free-throw line went first all its prec delays in as many blocked shots as she has she doesn't take very many fouls has not felt out of a game in her high school career so going to the line shooting to here I believe is Rubio that fell is actually on Gannon not unpractical hip Cox hit the line hits it makes it six to four guy did not see Gannon there but they called it on Gannon which I'm sure coach Kirkham is okay with and the second shot good for Cox discovery Kenyon breaking this press pretty easily getting it down to Schnabel Schnabel up can't get it to go Cox and Rubio Rubio comes down with it brings it across the time line she'll go to that corner go down low and we're gonna get a a block called against Briana Smith her first personal foul so Schnabel now will take a seat Cora ferguson comes in for discovery canyon and it'll be eagle ball underneath get an inside rubio she thought about the three of top around a hearty parting with a nice move gets it to Rubio in the paint she hits it Natasha Rubio the senior forward averages 12 a game for Puebla East she's got five of their seven points so far and had given him some trouble here on the press or a Ferguson it's foul they're gonna call that foul on Evelyn Valdes that'll be the first on but Louis team Breanna Smith will take the ball out right in front us gets it into Abigail Gannon and Gannon brings it up Cox leaning on fractal fractal inside puts it down tough to do when you do that and harden gets away from her usually the taller players you don't want her to have to put it down she holds it high there's no way they can get it Harding to Val this kind of Cox and but Louisa head coach to gratis are wants a timeout we'll take it with him well Lou East with a one-point lead on discovery Canyon 7 to 6 348 left in the first we'll be back right after this on 20 TV you welcome back to Discovery Canyon High School webelo East has a one-point lead right now and was asked a ball up top Valdez can't get the shot practical gets the rebound and outlets it to Gannon across the time line this is now Sammy Edwards who's just checked into the game for the Thunder they try and get it down pretzel with the save Rubio comes up with it heat it to Harding on a side leading scorer for Luis yet to score she gets it by pretzel right there for her first bucket of the game boy great job by Pueblo East a team that's a little under sized in this game they've got great hands down low they forced a lot of turnovers they're hitting their outside shots and they have a three-point lead get it forward to Ferguson Ferguson down low shot up she's gonna get the foul couldn't finish it let's see who they call it on may have been on Rubio here's another look yeah here's a good look at it coming in from the backside well it's gonna be they got 14 15 15 Ayanna V Hill Ayanna V Hill second team foul or the third team foul on Pueblo East outcomes Breanna Smith and in comes Julia Carter rectal and Carter will back off as Ferguson will get another shot won't go rebound inside Rubio and they're gonna call quickly Abigail Gannon with her second personal foul and Gannon will come out of the game coming into the game Sophia Sotomayor comes in to replace Gannon so to Meyer with a heavily wrapped shoulder sophomore guard for the Thunder whose steal attempt by Julia Carter forces Rubio back to get the basketball of course no shot clock in the high school game so plenty of time for the Eagles work it back around B Hill shot up won't go that's an air ball but a hit out of bounds but they're gonna call it out of bounds on Harding and Thunder ball a good hustle by Harding trying to get to that ball just landed on the end line but a wide open shot for Anna the hill over on the far side soda Meyer cuts to the middle good job they break the press fractal though loses the ball to be hill nice work ball moving around Cox tries to get around prek ttle crazy shot and discovery Canyon comes down with it that's what we'll do with all those block shots she just altered that one got the air ball picked up the rebound Ferguson nice drop step bucket Thunder back to within one and Harding brings it back up for Pueblo East and work it around leaving finding people open Valdez hits for three on again good ball movement I played Louis they just seemed to find a lot of open shots in that time it was Evelyn Valdez that hits the three Carter in the corner Ferguson trying to get into the soda wire and it's stolen away by Harding Harding comes back the other way four-point lead for the Eagles open but no shot from Valdez now Rubio being hounded out front she goes and throws it up won't go rebound discovery Canyon Sammy Edwards Thunder with three players set to check in at the next whistle Edwards being trapped in the corner get it to Sotomayor down the lane blocked by Valdez Valdez good job keeping that ball alive and gets it forward of B he'll be Hill comes down and we're gonna get a foul called I believe against Sammy Edwards and we will that will be Sammy Edwards first foul of the game but what a great job by my Valdez down with the block shot picks it up makes a good outlet pass leads the break on the other end and for discovery Canyon they they got to take care of the ball better they have had a lot of turnovers down on the offensive and recto Ferguson and Carter come out style comes back in along with sites and Smith and Seitz gets the rebound quickly their sophomore forward get it to Breanna Smith and prep the least backs up defensively Edwards inside schnabel knocked away again but Louise did a good job on those entry passes today sure are that was Riley Harding getting the hand in there inside Harding Harding loses it no call discovery Kane comes down with it Sammy Edwards get to decide Sotomayor has the ball looks like maybe the Thunder will look to the last shot 20 seconds left here first quarter Breanna Smith working on the baseline takes it inside and they're gonna call a foul on the floor and that's against our Rhea Williams that will be her first nice job of getting on the baseline by Breanna Smith and drawing that foul nice move inside try to get it to Schnabel and this one's knocked out of bounds Riley Harding all these pueblos east eagles are doing a heck of a job defensively is that ball they say went off of Schnabel and it'll be Eagle basketball yeah what right off of Schnabel's foot and that's Riley Harding that's your leading scorer averaging over 20 a game who's created the last two steals now Pueblo East will take it with 13 seconds left see what they do bring it up Valdez with Harding on the right snipe way out on Harding they moved around Cox back up top Valdez shot won't go Shanaya ball has it throws it off of Cox and it won't really matter how they call that one as the quarter has come to an end that's the way we'll first the first one goes in the books 12 eight webelo Eastover discovery canyon will come back a second quarter action after this on 20 TV you welcome back inside Discovery Canyon high school the Thunder down 12 to 8 Brian German alongside Dave Toller and Dave we heard coach Kirkham telling the discovery Canyon team take care of the basketball absolutely they've got seven turnovers in eight minutes of play and a lot of that is a credit to this very scrappy Pueblo East team we starts with the basketball here as we start quarter number two Rubio up top she can hit from out there they're gonna take their time coach gratis are probably told them keep it slow we've got him right where we want them Rubio comes to the basketball gets it over to Harding Harding backing off Harding with just two points in that first quarter average is 21 [Music] vo up top Valdes and Pueblo East appears willing to just run some clock yeah that moved the ball around the perimeter they got some good outside shooters just trying to find that open that open shot here's Rubio with it and they do they've got several shooters that can hit from the outside Rubio thinking about it now Harding cuts inside against that zone the corner Valdez back to Harding Harding now in the paint shot up good she's tough Riley Harding well they got a good look nice job by Harding flashing into the paint and a great pass by Evelyn Valdez to set that up and Bob Lewis comes with the press again and there's another turnover make it number eight for discovery Canyon quickly back to Rubio you know that's just one starter on two starters on the court for discovery Canyon right now Rubio on the side to Harding we're gonna see a similar offense once again here from the Eagles just taking their time passing around the perimeter and trying to find that open shot oh no taking a long time and when you have the time to take because they do with a six-point lead they'll take it here's Harding down low off of discovery Canyon we'll stay with Pueblo East and back comes in Ashton fractal and Abigail Gaiman for Sotomayor and sites that was a good look by Riley Harding trying to hit Rubio down for a layup Rubio - Harding knocked right at us and Harding will take it down the backs I didn't need your quick hands to save my face that time we seem to be magnets over here Harding nice move gets it over to Williams now back to Harding for three won't go Breanna Smith with the rebound Weatherly still back off because they did not make the basket Smith and Gannon up top they're working the ball getting it to fractal inside and they're gonna call a foul coach Greta so I wanted a walk that's gonna be on Ileana Cox I believe was that on Harding that was a hard II party her first her first inside nice move snipe over the caller with the walk before she scored Kristina Schnabel and the frustrations continue for the Thunder let's get a look at it here right on the inbounds playing well I just maybe drug that pivot foot I don't know that looked like a pretty good move by Schnabel I'm gonna agree with you David Harding over to Valdez so they work that ball around Williams and Rubio discovery cane gonna sit back in that zone plenty of time in the game of course nivel came out that time on Harding and they're gonna get foul there on Sammy Edwards that's gonna be her second foul DCCC just trying to come out and put some pressure on them and if they don't Easter just gonna keep passing that ball around the perimeter and looking for that open shot so they've got to get out and try to do something that time it was Edwards picking up her second Harding again this time from three won't go rebound pretzel [Music] gets it to Smith and I'll move forward Edwards inside prek toll drop step up won't go rebound Schnabel on the other side good job on the offensive glass daibo puts it down its knocked out of bounds by east and the Thunder will keep the ball well and you can see what the thunders trying to do they're just gonna work it inside and do it quickly they got it into practical she missed on the other side they had schnabel for the rebound there's Nile moving on rubio takes it up tried to get it to practical practical does come down with it and I got a fall a reach-in foul on Cox that'll be her first foul the sixth team foul against Provo Eastern and they've been pretty successful with their hands getting in that time she went with the wrong hand she went with the left hand and got her with the body she goes in with the right hand she gets a clean steal rectal back to Smith down low she'll put it up can't get it rectal comes in and grabs it and puts it on Ashtyn practice well bringing the ball in making the pass going right to the bucket she cleans up the rebound and puts it back in prep till now has six points coach Steve Gravatar takes a timeout he wants a short timeout we'll keep it right here Heath Kirkham and company Heath you see him scratching his head there talking to his his Thunder he's right once they've started taking care of the basketball but now they've got to worry about getting some baskets while they really do and you could see early in this in this quarter just trying to pound it down load they've got a huge size advantage fretful at 6'5 Schnabel is 510 the biggest player on this Pueblo east team is 5 9 they've got to utilize that but in making that entry pass you got to make sure you make a good pass and they're there making that pass in but Pueblo ista is a good look at him right there they're scrappy defensively they've got quick hands and they have forced a lot of turnovers in this game tonight yeah you saw Steve gratis are in there look we're on television that was crazy Brian German alongside Dave Toller for this one Bravo East with a four-point lead now and coach gratis are probably just telling them keep keep going keep taking as much time as possible before you get a good look absolutely and I offensively be patient they're getting some good looks the last two three-pointers that their leading scorer Riley Hardy took they were wide open looks they just didn't fall Rubio as discovery came in the peers willing to push that zone out a little bit further now the wings will come up with the players on the side Williams nice ball movement by Pueblo East but the bout is up top now inside Williams back to Rubio shot up won't go rectal grabs that rebound yes that was a good-looking play though they got it inside to a smaller player she was not gonna shoot uncorrect oh but Rubio flashed into an open spot and got a good luck discovery Kane working it around coach Kirkham yells reverse they get it inside prec toll Ashton I belong inside up and I got a call Ashton fractal for an offensive foul she doesn't get called for a whole lot of fouls but we'll take a look at this one right here yeah just turned right in and has a nice job I played Louis getting good position down low a smaller player but playing with her feet gets in front and quick dole picks up her first foul of the game back the other way comes puebla east harding and rubio up top along with valdés they've got a set offense they got good movement down low and they just passed the ball around the perimeter here's Rubio with it once again this is a pueblo east team then there are three games they've scored over 50 points in every game they averaged about 53 but they're not in any any hurry to hit that number tonight why would you be yeah the height advantage that discovery Canyon enjoys in this game just take your time find a good shot Rubio inside and Cheney a call for a walk and she's slitter pivot foot trying to come to a stop there yeah made a good play on the baseline she got in but again that's a play that Preta will will create that turnover here she comes there's Rubio stops takes the extra step and gets called for traveling discovery Canyon we're working against the press again nice press break yeah ball thrown away by Ganon another turnover for the Thunder yeah it's their second in this quarter ninth of the game and again that that press from Pueblo East is causing them all kind of problems they're getting over half court just fine once they get into the offense they're making just too quick of a pass and they're turning the ball over once they break that press they need to settle in and work that inside game a little bit more Sidney Mahon into the game now for the Thunder he's on the wing against that pub Louie steam good stuff up top from juliek Carter but Fred Lewis comes up with a basketball or two got it from Cox we couldn't keep it away from Valdez and that's what you've got to do up there to force quit lluís to do something and here comes Carter again putting a little pressure up high Rubio and Valdez playing catch they are gonna make you Lee Carter work up top they'll move it around the Cox and bring it back out good good discipline by Pueblo East working that basketball around there they don't really need to shoot they've got a four point lead right exactly inside Harding there's a steal good job good hands by Breanna Smith knocking that one down and back comes Julia Carter may on up top looking in fractal trying to get open inside kristy schnabel for three won't go Brandon Smith battling for the rebound I'm gonna call it off of her and it'll be fun Louise ball well a great work for Pueblo East by Briana Cruz who was guarding pret well there's a good shot of her right there correcto came all the way out to the high post Cruz was all over maybe a little too physical at times but doing some good work up against the big center for the Thunder Bradley Harding brings it across the time line to Valdez there's Williams Rubio cut through the middle Christina Schnabel is shadowing her so we may have a box in one going on here day that's what it looks like gentle is with with Rubio well they're almost in a man right now and Breanna Smith is with Harding yep and Schnabel is with Rubio it does look like a man-to-man it comes about is that is up top to Cox I'm switching a little bit to man just to try to force him to to play and get something going but again Club Louis boy good ball movement what a move by Arya Williams and they get the bucket and they got the matchup Arya Williams about five foot five pulled pretzel all the way out she had the bigger player outside puts it on the floor and gets to the bucket snipe rectal puts it on the ground puts it up can't get it to go Smith was there trying to get the rebound the was off of Cox and he'll stay Thunderball couple of substitutions for the Thunder Laura Ferguson comes into the game along with Sammy Edwards Schnabel and Smith will come out 1610 very low-scoring first half here and the official talking to Cox right now who's been as you said like all over practice they're gonna throw it in high to practice show grab it shot from there won't go Ferguson can't get the rebound Hardin camp and here comes Pueblo East and I would really not be surprised coach Kratz are says hey one shot absolutely Williams but discovery Canyon now in a man-to-man Harding up top being hounded by Edwards the corner des I'll get it to Rubio up top on Ferguson Rubio is gonna stop outside the three get fouled and the official says two shots and that foul is against Cora Ferguson her first so two shots for Rubio she will go to the line this makes it really tough discovery Canyon they have to try to force Pueblo East to do something they go to the man to the man man to man defense but it pulls their size away from the basket it allows the Eagles to get into the paint Rubio misses the first one not happy with herself a Natasha the senior forward for this Eagle team got it I heard coach gratis are say make him dribble it up the floor but low east makes prep will dribble she puts it up oh-ho-ho Ashton fractal I thought she was gonna come down with that one but that's the way we finished the first half discovery Canyon down 17 to 10 coach Kerr command company will trying to come up with something here at halftime we'll take a break we back with more here on 20 TV you are you trying to find the perfect gift for your child this year maybe it's time to think outside the box and consider a gift that will last a lifetime like a world-class education give your child the gift of excellence by enrolling them in Academy district 20 d20 is one of the highest performing districts in the state and choice enrollment begins January 5th choose excellence choose d20 you we're back inside Discovery Canyon High School where the Thunder find themselves down seven - pueblo east at the half Ryan German along side Dave Toller and we had we had some entertainment here at halftime we had a young man come out of the stands and drain some shots from half-court Oh unbelievable here's a good look at him right there hit three shots from half-court right there that one spins in two of them hit nothing but net we'll get a look at one right there look at that shot right and he just walks off all cool like he does it all the time that's what you do right like you've been there before we'll keep it right here Pueblo East I would think Dave stunning discovery Canyon right now discovery came he's just ten points in the first half discovery can you used to holding opponents to less points not not only scoring ten themselves and then several problems discovery Canyon has had it started with taking care of the basketball they had nine turnovers in the first half alone seven of those came in the first quarter they're doing a good job of breaking that press of Pueblo East but once they get it in across half court they've got a lot of turnovers they've got to work the inside game better they got to find a way to get prec DeLand Schnabel a little bit more involved prec ttle with six points schnabel with two but four pueblos each there's a good look at their team right there great defense they're scrappy they forced a lot of turnovers they take care of the basketball in the offensive end they pass it around the perimeter look for a good shot and they've been very successful with that it'll be interesting to see what both coaches do here in the second half coach Kirkham and discovery canyon we'll see if they attack this defense from east a little bit different and we'll see if what Louisa actually goes on the attack it's on offense as well yeah we will say I think we're gonna see a lot the same from Pueblo East there's a good look good past and rectal Brecht oldest Schnabel Schnabel scores and that's exactly what they need if they keep that up they're gonna have a lot more points here in the second half and they've got the size advantage they've got to use it upfront Smith can't steal it from Rubio Rubio gets it down to Cox in the corner and discovery Canyon back in what looks like a boxing one again with Smith taking on Rubio Valdez comes inside fractal gets a piece of that one Schnabel with the rebound and here come the Thunder coach Kirkham likes that a lot better absolutely a little more life out of this Thunder team fractal inside up top shot up by Carter won't go rebound Harding Harding running with Rubio Rubio all the way ahead of the pack it's the easy bucket nineteen twelve but Louis and discovery Canyon had a good shot they just missed it as soon as they did the Eagles were off to the races it comes again and almost lost the ball get it to Schnabel goes baseline opposite fractal rebound bucket for discovery Canyon that's what you want I mean you get a good look from from Schnabel on that layup and then fractals right there to clean up the rebound and put it back you could almost tell everyone just just go in there and throw it off the glass and let ash can get it that's right Valdez to Rubio nice little weave up top by Pueblo East first time we've seen that but correct elliptic with the block Knobble Smith Smith can't get it to go no call Schnabel rebound gets it again puts it up this time a foul on bub Louis and the Thunder and their fans are back into this basketball and they're doing it just as we thought they would with the inside game they got the the rebound right there two chances from Schnabel inside she draws the foul then Kristina Schnabel goes to the line Shania the senior one of just three seniors on this team along with Smith and gammon excuse me Carter make it four good try not to be too quiet very quiet in here Nidal second-shot can cut it to three won't go rebound valdés but lluís comes back up the court tough defense out front from the Thunder lots to harding there's that patient offense of Pueblo East and discovery Canyon back in a man-to-man defense well I'm impressed too cuz police doesn't seem like worried all came out and scored outscored on five to two and the crowds into it and Publius is just taking their time still Harding down low on schnabel gets it back out top this is Williams for the shot won't go rebound prec though and almost had it stolen by Cox Kirkham reminding pretzel to keep that ball up high absolutely I'd take care of it against this this Eagle team Schnabel up top own go around the side another miss and Cox with the rebound David mentioned Webb lluís did beat discovery came in last year pretty handily they did lose some players from that team but they've they've had some success against the Thunder team yeah they beat him last year with 70 137 right here at discovery Canyon it was a game that BCC had 29 turnovers in so you can see a little a little bit of that pattern from last season carried over to this one early on of course Coast Gratus are was not bare last year valleys shot got it for three they get 20 to 15 now Bob Lewis back to his seven point lead again that patient offense they worked the ball around a good skip pass from one side to the other said it Valdez for her second three of the game Carter over to Gannon Gannon gets it to practical prac the will work on Cox puts it up won't go rebound Valdez good job of boxing out down low by Pueblo East to the shot came from the from the elbow right there and everywhere underneath all you saw were yellow jerseys about as up top being hounded by Gannon get it out and that's a turnover by club Louis and the summer could use a little bit more of that defense causing a turnover absolutely and a nice job and again they go to that man-to-man they forced Webb Louis to make a quick decision with the basketball webelo East wants to run that perimeter offense but that time good job by the Thunder to get out force that turnover Ferguson Mahon and Edwards come back into the game well the Edwards in Mahon bringing up for the Thunder it's we're now almost stolen away by Rubio shneail takes it inside loses its Cox Cox quickly ahead to Valdez put him in called for a walk but she'll go up and score 24 15 the biggest lead of the game is now 9 for Pueblo East and again it all starts with the defense great steal look it up ahead and get an easy layup at the other end Mahon tip rectal puts it on the ground and the call is a block inside Harding can't believe it practical take it so close and earlier in this game trettel got called for an offensive foul that time it was hearty but slides in we'll take a good look at this there's Preta with you I got in a little late Harding didn't quite have the feet set prec tall draws the foul and she will go to the line shot up nice smooth touch for a 6'5 player that's just a junior in high school it's a good look at Ashton shooting 83% from the line this season just about good and discovery Kenyon will bring them half court press Harding to valdés the cornered B Hill and they'll work it around boy they're all over Rubio they're not gonna let Rubio or Harding shoot this ball may hand inside shot up good how good is Riley Harding getting that basket in terrific and she had two players on or just split the two defenders will get a good look at it right here goes in between the two one of them is pretzel little up and under with the layup gets it and goes to the line and that is the third foul on Sammy Edwards shut up and good for Harding but she got now today she's got seven points averaging 21 a game but a different game for this Pueblo each team just being very patient offensively but she's got seven to lead the team ten point lead now they get it to pretzel in the middle and I gotta call a foul on Cox it'll be like being believed her second personal foul she's been hounding fractal all night long it's good look at Natasha excuse me Breanna Cox may hum gets the ball in two schaible Kristina Schnabel maybe has the most experience on this Thunder basketball team only gets away to carry their throws it up won't go p-- rectal inside can't get it tries to get her own rebound this time it's Harding who comes down with it good work down low by Harding I mean tough to get a rebound down low with that size of the Thunder but good work by Harding to get it moved outside shot up and that's gonna get stuck and I'll bet you Ashton can get yeah I was Wow she read my mind couldn't even quite get it out before she went up and got it hey Jana V Hills shot was stuck up there and put Lewis will retain the basketball Shania Bella Mae Hong come out was able to knock it out of there I mean she got that easier than you were always a ladder to get up there but Lou East again taking their time very quick moving game because of this slowdown offense by blue East we had a ten-point lead a lot to wait and see if coach Kirkham goes into that man-to-man which they have done actually right now maybe a little more pressure to get them to go Valdes outside V Hill they're working on Smith who backs off well I'm just pulling the Thunder way outside look at the offense is starting almost up at the half court line good pressure by DCC though pass inside the won't go good pressure there by Julia Carter and she's gonna get called for a foul I believe yes it's her first personal she will but great hustle you know somebody's got to make something happen or else the Eagles are just gonna pass the ball around the perimeter and Julia Carter there's a great shot of her right there great hustle up front to me ten minutes left here in regulation and probably should be just fine not shooting the ball again with the 10-point lead get it back to Harding up top of working on Sammy Edwards Rubio against Ferguson and timeout Webb Louis could be a full timeout 27:17 142 left in the third we'll come back after this on twenty TV you welcome back here on 20 TV Discovery Canyon finds themselves down 10 to pueblo east eagles and girls for a high school basketball brian german alongside dave Toller pueblo east has the ball 142 left third quarter and so far tonight the Eagles have been very patient offensively against this Thunder defense they have they've run about 40 seconds off before they had the timeout there's little over a minute and a half left in this quarter and it might be a last shot situation for Pueblo least down to Harding and they'll work it around very impressed with the Eagles under their first year coach grata saw Rubio maybe a shot earlier but she gets her own rebound so coach will take that comes inside gets it to Harding Harding download back to Rubio they're gonna call Hardy girl walk and that was because of the presence a national threat doe because Hardy wanted to go up with that shot prickle just stood up put her hands up Harding had nowhere to go with the basketball took an extra step before she made that pass Cora Ferguson comes out Kristina Schnabel is back in and the Thunder having a little bit of an issue here with the press get it to fractal in the middle and now the Carter Carter shot up won't go p-- rectal almost had the rebound it's bounded around pretzel does come up with it tries to put it up and Harding comes away with it for Pueblo East they are scrappy down low they do a good job a box it out fractal got that rebound was too far underneath to do anything with it Harding gets the rebound and here come the Eagles again all knocked out of bounds by the Thunder it'll stay with the Eagles 41 seconds now and Rubio will in demand the ball this Valadez up tops goes inside B Hill Thunder trying to trap some eels the Eagles moving quickly and passing that ball doing a great job moving the ball around boy they do that and BCC doing everything they can a little half-court trap you can see right there but when Webb Lou East handling it very well and now we get a foul called on the Thunder that's gonna be on schnabel it's gonna be here first and twenty seconds now for the Eagles and here's a steal good job by Julia Carter cutting that one off she'll go up by herself and she's fouled right in front of our videographer down there Tim territory here's a good look at it Julia Carter has played so hard in this game I love the way she plays defense that time she gets the steal comes in hard gets fouled on the play and she will go to the line foul was on Evelyn Valdez her second she gets the history it's so quiet you can hear that that's a nap on that one kidding and out comes V Hill in comes Williams for Pueblo East not a lot of substitutions for Pueblo ease they've gone with their five on the floor DCC a lot of substitutions in this game just trying to find some chemistry rebound almost an offensive rebound by Smith pulled down by Valdez she comes across the time line with five seconds throws it to Rubio Rubio notes no time left I need that guy from halftime Harding in the footwell East did not get a shot off so the Thunder have cut it to nine and that's the end of the third quarter we'll be back with the final quarter of play from Discovery Cammy high school after this on twenty TV [Music] you back inside discovery Canyon High School the final quarter of play and the Thunder gonna have to get busy here get back into this basketball game down nine they will have to do it quickly the I take care of the basketball and they got to get their inside game going a little more they did early in that third quarter but late in that third quarter it was all Pueblo East a little bit more urgency Breanna's Smith gets her own rebound gets it out the schnabel Schnabel now into the paint up can't get it to go but that's exactly the Thunder need a little more urgency on offense for spread lou easton two fouls it nothing else exactly nice job there by Schnabel she got that ball out on the wing just took it right to the bucket and got fouled on the play the third foul on Evelyn Valdez four-shot Schnabel ghosts and the thunder of credit to seven this is exactly where they were at halftime down seven see if the Thunder can make something happen they're gonna have to put pressure on this Eagle team if not they will just pass it on the perimeter there's some pressure and a steal good job by Carter and Gannon to force that play now Gannon on the left inside freckle puts it down up and in 27:22 it's a five-point game here come the Thunder they'll get right back into it quickly if they play defense like that and get it down low to prec Doyle nice steal by Schnabel Schnabel gets it up ahead again and gammon fires up puts it up fractal again with the rebound and a bucket for Ashton correct over there in three timeout Steve Gratus our we'll keep it right here we'll keep it right here and talk the Thunder back in this basketball game and David we knew if Louise couldn't hang on the ball for eight minutes that the Thunder would be making a run at someone absolutely I mean a quick six old run right here we'll get a look at it there's the entry pass trettel puts it on the floor lays it up and gets it six straight points here's one coming right at you off the glass but correct ole again the rebound puts it right back up and in so 27 24 and you've got to wonder what Steve grata SARS telling his teammate if now there's a three-point it's different when you're up ten you can take all day but with three points it's a little bit more precarious especially with seven minutes left in the game and they're still gonna have that's their game is that outside shot they they can't get a whole lot going inside with that size disadvantage so they've got to get some more open looks for DCC coach Kirkham he's got to be thinking where has this team been for the last three quarters because for the first 52 seconds of this fourth quarter they've looked like a terrific basketball team yeah and we heard him in the first quarter between the first and second quarter they were losing 12 date after that first quarter and he lit into him hard between the first and second quarter and then they went out and scored two points in the second quarter he's getting a little more I don't know nicer approach here in the fourth quarter and it seems to be working son doing a good job defense sometimes you gotta change it up and just figure out something that's that's work and he's been trying a ton of different combinations as well a lot of substitutions and we'll see if the Thunder can keep up the defense party brings it across the time line goes down to Rubio Valdez and Fred Louis and looks like Coach Gradishar said let's let's make them phallus let's just be better with the basketball Williams the Harding discovery came in way out front the clock is on but they move it around well almost a steal by Carter but Williams comes up with it again and now in Valdez Valdez down the middle over the Cox but it really looks like Louise is running at four corners offense it doesn't want to shoot and they're doing it very well they're getting a lot of pressure from DCC but they're taking care of the basketball and BCC changing up their defense they're going from the trap to a man-to-man back to trap as well but you can see the Eagles just moving the ball around the perimeter Williams up top to Rubio takes your time comes out with it now download of Harding Harding back to Rubio cuts nice two-person game there Cox comes away with the offensive rebound that's a big offensive rebound for the Eagles that's a huge one especially with the team that possesses the ball the way that they do they get a another full possession out of this Rubio does a good job penetrating brings it right back out and Smith is right there trying to get the ball from there no foul called the official just kept the count going then move it over to Harding and about is there's a steal by Briana Smith was right there with Rubio the whole way she takes it up and in counted she's got a foul and she is fired up I have a feeling she's had enough of this kind of basketball tonight y'all had a great play maybe the great steal comes in a little jump stop little head fake draws the foul prior to that though how about the play Breanna Smith made if she just went full speed add it to get the steal there's another look low head fake draws the foul on Rubio and Brandon Smith will go to the line to complete the three-point play and a little bit of enthusiasm why wouldn't you shut up and good we're tied Dave we're tied oh it was 2717 this quarter two and a half minutes ago ten Oh run by the Thunder but Lewis may be feeling it here in the thunder gym work it around Mariah Garcia in the game Rubio down low Harding in to Cox and there's a push and we're gonna foul I believe on Julia Carter yep yeah that's gonna be on the floor Carter was down low Preta went up for the block we get a look at here nice pass on the baseline by Riley Harding there's the push in the back from Julia Carter she picks up her second Harding gets it in to Rubio Garcia top there's another steal by the Thunder get it to Schnabel and they'll bring it across with Julia Carter in the Breanna Smith shovel pass over to Schnabel who goes in and gets fouled and the Thunder fans are loving this well they are into this game we were just saying earlier Brian how quiet it was there's a nice little passion Idol goes in gets fouled on the play at the other end it was Julia Carter with yet another steal she's played a great game defensively she's nine ball at the line with a chance to give the Thunder a lead beautiful touch by Kristina Schnabel everybody was just sitting in weight and Schnabel had a big smile on her face just waiting for it and it drops the shot took longer than the second quarter second shot no good rebound and it's a one-point lead for the Thunder first lead maybe the entire game nope they were up to nothing and the Thunder crowd saying double they're trying to double people out front put a trap on Garcia gets the ball back from Harding shoves it back to Cox Cox has doubled in the corner back to Garcia Shelton he'll bring it up top almost loses it picks it up and gets it to Rubio and they're calling on the foul on the for Cora Ferguson good call for her second foul but totally different when you put some pressure on this police t different game and you know you love the way the thunders playing defense and not letting pleb Louis just pass the ball around for 30 seconds every possession Garcia now trapped on another steal smile picks it up and gets it to Carter and here we come the Thunder trying to build their lead now four minutes left here in the fourth quarter it's a fractal up top looks inside takes the shot won't go rebound Rubio gets it to Harding nothing doing there against prec though top [Music] Harding nice pass Cox inside and Publix has the lead back 29:28 boy what a great look finds the open shot and gets an easy layup for pedal East now Carter up to schnabel shneail against Garcia should have an easy one takes it in gets fouled pushed as she went in and Kristina's probably thinking I can make both of these this time absolutely well you love the way Kristina Schnabel is playing it goes in with the left hand that time but every time she's had the ball she goes right to the bucket she's been to the line a lot this fourth quarter we'll keep it quiet should I believe the line feeling good Granny Smith give you a dirty look there Davy were talking Andrew and Christina was trying to shoot rectal comes out sights came in Breanna Smith will come in for the shooter if Schnabel's able to make it won't go rebound Rubio tied at 29 his gym certainly came alive when the Thunder did that's for sure Riley hearted down low against sights puts it up I'm going to call a foul on sites McKenzie sights her first a nice job by Harding to get into the bucket there was a good look at it puts it on the floor with the right hand gets down low and draws the foul and we haven't seen much of that out of Pueblo East they've had the lead they've been very patient offensively here in a tie game Riley Riley Harding takes the ball right to the bucket shot off though for Harding second shot will go sights good job getting that rebound for the Thunder on a lot of missed free throws on both sides navels missed a couple for DCC and then right there Riley Harding missing two free throws in a tie game with about three minutes left I know she wants those back they're getting a foul called inside on that is rubio natasha rubio her first foul and it'll be Mackenzie sights the sophomore forward at the line just averages one point a game but if she can make to hear she can double her output and give her team a leap won't go rebound Smith he just came in the basketball game Breanna Smith has really taken over sites gets it back again goes up and she'll have another chance at the free-throw line Mackenzie sights and Breanna Smith just battling on the board and that's just will is what that is it's a missed free throw but car rego or Smith goes in gets the rebound Birds won't go sites follows it up great hustle by these Thunder players sites another free throw up and no this time she'll get two shots coach Keith Kirkham trying to show the form she should use thought she was gonna get the bounce on that one it went straight up in the air nearly came back down mini up won't go rebound Harding Kylie Harding in Pueblo East bringing it back up get it to Williams Williams breasts again good pressure defense by the funder Rubio now with it they'll try and trap her tries to break it and we've got a jump ball tailing the ball called that ball will stay with Pueblo East and that's a good thing you want to do with two minutes and 44 seconds left is the next time he'll ball goes to the Thunder coach coach Kirkland wants a timeout it'll be a full fractal Schnabel and Gannon we'll check back in we'll be back with the exciting conclusion of this 129 all from Discovery Canyon after this on 20 TV you to 44 left fourth-quarter what was a 2717 game to start that quarter is now 29 all and pueblos east has the basketball Harding to inbound it gets it to Rubio rubio up top wonder what Coach Gratus are told his troops here Rubio breaks the double-team gets it out on the side back to Rubio stolen again Julia Carter and that Thunder defense have been doing a great job here in the second half Edwards now Carter takes his shot no won't go rebound and rectal try to tie up Harding underneath a belief skinny a call for a foul what's so close on that shot Carter's played great defense got that last deal she was about three feet behind that three-point line when she took that shot and it nearly went in then a foul at the other end good hustle down low and Harding gets hit on the head the foul is gonna go against a shrimp rectal her second of this game Harding goes to the line well in the senior Riley Harding missed two in a row their last time at the stripe got a feeling she doesn't do that that often but she misses the third right here fractal with the rebound up almost stolen away from Gannon the gamin brings it up Julia Carter as we come down into the final two minutes of this fourth quarter in two Ashton correct I'll show go baseline can't get it to go Schnabel right there will go look at Brickell with that rebound she was leaning over the top of Cox to get that rebound and they're gonna call it against Rihanna her third yeah she was moving her feet right underneath and you see Schnabel with that rebound she can't get it to go and just back and right underneath cost just backing right into pret go gets called for the foul and Freck doe will go to the line Ashton prick though you mentioned an 83% free-throw shooter you've been asking for someone to make a free throw she just did it there she is 3 for 3 from the line in this one and both of these coaches have to be saying if either one of us could make some free-throws we'd have a we'd have a pretty good lead in this one we'll see if prick dole can go four for four from the line for this one coach gratis are told the official he wanted a timeout if she made it she didn't make it 32:29 split by valdez she goes inside gets it back to Cox and they'll move it back around here comes Harding in the paint up and in little bit closer than the free throw she gets that two pointers ago and it's at one point well Louie sleep coach grata saw urging his team on that press go to the cross half court this is Carter gets it inside pretzel shot up and good Ashton tectal has given the Thunder elite again that's a great catch by pretzel in traffic to got it over the left hand and lays it in should be 33 there 30 excuse me 32 31 Valdez inside almost lost it gets into waves it goes off her and out of bounds the Thunder fans are loving it they got a one-point lead and the ball with 1:15 left and again that's the pressure this Thunder team has had this entire fourth quarter they've they've forced a lot of turnovers they get possession of the ball move it to the middle fractal has it she'll go up with it and in Ashton pretzel taken over now that's what they need they got the pressure that one in with defense and in the layout book for pretzel 34 31 fractal with a bevy of points this evening we're gonna get a foul called up front against Abigail Gann and her third what sprek till up to now gave 19 points 10 rebounds right about her average maybe a little bit more and that's that's what this Thunder team needed but it all starts on defense they're creating turnovers at one end there hitting prickled down at the other end Brianna Cox at the line didn't cut it to one got the first one she made to earlier in this game she's three for three all right looking at your chicken scratch good luck figuring that out second shot up is good for four for 34 33 East again with the press they break it get it to Gannon Gannon out races Rubio for it and they're gonna call Rubio on the floor before Gannon went up with it and it's gonna be a one in one again and Ganon's gonna be put on the line well how about Abigail Gannon we'll get a look at it right here she just stays with that she was tripped on the play she was pushed on the play the senior stays with it gains control draws the foul and she goes to the line her first time at the line tonight Natasha Rubio's fourth foul that could loom big as well as that missed by gammy again in trying to give it a two-point lead shot up won't go Hawks can't grab it Harding can 45 seconds Pueblo East with the ball down one Rubio back to Harding Harding inside against prickle and they're gonna call both officials have a call against Breanna Smith watch it again well take a look right here good job I hardly just take him in and prep the holding up or ground but Smith gets in gets in with the hand grabs the arm and sends Harding to the line and when she needs to make when she's 1 for 4 tonight she's missed her last the read their swing nothing good and that ties this game up thirty nine point eight seconds left Riley Hardy misses the second one fractal with the rebound tie basketball game here comes Breanna Smith Valdez pokes it away Cox and harden come up with it and we got a foul as the Thunder tried to tie it up and didn't get the call they're gonna call a foul against Abigail Gannon and Harding again to the line boys she's spent a lot of time at the free-throw line tonight gotta go again and out there with four fouls now I'll leave parting shot up and good Riley Harding what's after her now 3 for 7 from the line tonight she's got 11 points averaging 21 but just a different game we played tonight as you can see the low score second shot up and good and plug the lease for the two-point lead Thunder need a basket to break that press is pressed by Pueblo East they can get someone deep Schnabel has it across the time line no one guarding her she's gonna take it in by yourself won't go rebound Harding and they call it they say foul a couple of Thunder players reached out and grabbed a player and they're gonna give it to Ashton fretful that'll be her third foul of the evening and Harding again will go to the line well as a pretty good look by Christina Schnabel who had a little bit of room goes in with the left hand just couldn't get that layup to fall Harding suddenly has begun a good free throw shooter she's hit three in a row out comes Abigail cannon in comes Sammy Edwards and Harding will try and make this a two possession game she does so four-point lead for Pueblo East Webb lluís takes it 30-second timeout we'll stay right here Dave let's talk about this down for eleven point four seconds blue East took the timeout so I don't believe discovery Canyon can say where they want the basketball I think they're gonna have to go the length of the floor oh this is why I called the timeout right he could take it right here right and he let maybe that's what we're Steve goodness all the time out so he can't decide where he gets that basketball absolutely so make him go the full nerve 11 seconds left getting our basketball fishy and ADO's Adam Parker over there telling him I'm not correct they can take you can still move the basketball where he want me talking about it yep we took the timeout discovery Canyon thinking about this but okay that aside you still need two possessions in order to get this you go for two or three right away you got to get a quick two I think and you know your best shot you go down low Ashton pretzel she's got 19 in this game and tried to get a quick one down there maybe she can draw foul and and get to the line as well and then you have to hope that you know at the other end but Louise misses a free throw but early in this game early in this quarter Viggo's couldn't buy a free throw they made their last four all coming off the hands of Riley harder yeah and even if Discovery cannon had taking this time out they wouldn't have been able to move it to half-court that's just a college basketball rule I'm set straight here comes Discovery King Breanna Smith across half court time running down really quickly they get it out discovery can he needs a basket fast that shot up it good and the clock runs out and that will do it discovery Canyon Falls to Pueblo East for the second year in a row this one a lot closer than last year and a marvelous job with the Thunder to come back in that fourth quarter day it really was but it became a little too little too late for discovery King it took him three quarters to get going especially defensively they did so they got right back in this game but but Luiz credit family played great defense all night and they hit key free throws down the stretch okay if nothing else that gave discovery canyon a look at what they might see in the future if a team's gonna try and slow it down because of that high but good job hats off to prep Luise 38 Thor 36 for Dave Tolin and our entire 20 TV crew thanks for watching we'll see you next time on 20 TV you
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welcome inside Discovery Canyon High School in Colorado Springs Colorado for boys high school basketball i'm brian german alongside vince greco as the discovery camión thunder take on the st. mary's pirates in this early season campaign Vince I say it early because discovery canyons played just two games st. Mary's just three and we can take a look at the way these two teams shape up against each other and you could see st. Mary's yet to win a game this year while discovery Canyon is split there's and I don't know quite what to make of tonight's game yet Ryan I'm glad it's early in the preseason you see that st. Mary's has not won a game yet but they bring back all five starters from a year ago they should be a better basketball team a year ago they did beat discovery Canyon so tonight the Thunder has something to prove their one-on-one they had a win early in the season and a tough loss to Longmont but give them credit Longmont was in the semifinals of the state basketball tournament a year ago so this discovery Canyon team is better again it's an interesting matchup that's why I'm looking forward to the play should be fun to watch Gabe Calhoun will be the player to watch for st.
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break highschool it is high school basketball season starts tonight for the Pine Creek Eagles who will take on the Fairview Knights my name is Brian German alongside Dave Toller and Dave first game as it being we had to look at last year stats to find out who might be the players on these teams in Pine Creek they graduated eight players and 45 points last year so an entirely new team for genichi but it really is they graduate and some key players Courtney Stanton Jade Odom they're top two scorers from last season their leading scorer coming back is senior guard Bree Bailey now as far as the Fairview Knights are concerned they lost four to graduation just 24 points but they got two really good players coming back in Ashley Panem and Denali Pinto both of them averaging 18 15 points a game that that's pretty good so we're set to go here it should be fun Kate Lampert will jump the ball up against Elena Murdoch and the tip comes down and Fairview will have the first possession of the game actually Panem will run the offense from the top Pine Creek sticks back down stays inside they'll work it up top there's one of those key players we talk to you about Pinto gets it back to pan I'm up top flashing inside now on the outside is he Munson have you working that ball around well pine creek for the most part staying with them good post defense inside they go to cross court put up the shot it's knocked around a pine creek comes away with it out of Bounce give it to the Eagles a good possession there defensively for Pine Creek a lot of passing a lot of movement outside on the perimeter pine creek stayed right with them got the turnover it looks like Fairview is gonna come with a little bit of pressure here to start the game Cato Grod me brings it up herself being guarded by Pinto turns around they'll come back up top Pine Creek moving the ball left to right see a bowel des and they're gonna call it foul I believe on Elena Murdoch the senior forward for Pine Creek with an illegal screen yeah a little moving screen right here and you could see her just move right into the player Bailey was trying to get around so first foul of the game goes against pine creeks Murdock so now I'm going to Pinto there trying to get panem post it up inside there she'll cut out now Pinto changes places with her pana will take a shot from deep it and as a foul called out front it's gonna be Hayley Murdock with the foul and I believe we'll be getting three shots for Panem out front nope my bad if alcohol before the shot they called it on zero Kate Oh Grod knee her first touch Beauchamp asking for an explanation he said the shot came after the foul there's another foul by Pine Creek out front and that that is again on a groggy and that is tough Kate Oh Grod me someone I know Jeanine zubik was gonna count on this season two quick fouls in this first game of the year yeah and that one just running right through the screen and yeah two quick ones for your senior guard and she will yeah oh she's gonna stay on the floor and the referees are gonna decide the foul was on the floor was on Olga Rodney where's the ball gonna be out of bounds it will be under the basket so coach Janine Kubik might have to go to the bench early here for Oh Grod me Munson nice pass inside easy deuce for Denali Pontiff pinto the first basket of the game now bringing it up is xuong xuong gets it back a nice little give and go play because out of bounds it'll be Fairview basketball Sydney's on couldn't handle it Kubek is speaking to the official right now trying to figure out what the foul situation is I believe she she thought the foul was called on someone other than Olga Rodney but there's two fouls up on the board on I grab me out front now for Pinto Pinto drives the lane kicks it outside Panama good movement back to Pinto and I'll shoot from downtown good box-out by Pine Creek and now they might get hanim with a foul as was Rodney went to the ground yep and they will yep pannin picks up the foul and well she was sitting up for that shot she was camped out in the chlorine and she's going after that rebound she gets called for the foul so Panem's first of this game good job by Kate Oh Grod needed boxer out there Hannah gets the foul and now coach Kubek speaking to the officials trying to figure out about the foul situation the official will be called over there's a good look at Janine one as we heard her talking she thought fouls on 55 Haley Murdoch which is what we all saw on the three-point shot yeah they called the foul before the shot on the ground that's what they were just explaining that was Oh Grod knees first one and she picked up another one just a couple seconds later so with five 55 left in the first she's gonna go to the bench and Jordan Gutierrez is gonna come into this game expectedly for a broad neo grounding up top now it's picked off that comes Panem up the middle can't get the layup to go but Pinto can and it's boorda nothing Fairview now with Rodney baseball pass nice job coming back to receive that one Bree Bailey it's on the side to Zahn back to Bailey she'll take the shot from there won't go rebound Pinto Fairview on the run again busy Monson was out ahead of the pack but until didn't see her goes back to pan and nice hands by Pine Creek good job defensively pick up that ball and get it back to a brodny bring it forward Bree Bailey nice passing Murdoch over Tucson first bucket for Pine Creek cuts the lead in half at fortitude what a great pass by Haley Murdoch in transitions that's a easy basket there for Sidney's on now Pine Creek with some pressure but they break it quickly to Pinto and a player open down-low couldn't get it but Pinto take the shot and that's why I Denali Pinto was the second leading scorer coming back from last year of 15.2% players she's got all six tonight for Fairview zon the corner here comes Bailey again Bailey up off the glass won't go she's there for her own rebound by Pinto rips it down until in a corner to Richmond back inside and the big coalition and Kate Lampert collides and they would get the foul called and the Pine Creek bench is loving that as he Lena Murdoch took the charge terrific job by Elena Murdoch watch her set her feet sets up in the lane takes the charge way I take some courage to stand in there and take a shot like that and she did so improve the offensive foul Kate glamper at the 511 junior for Fairview is coming down there pretty quickly it does take some guts so now Oh Grob knee comes out Gutierrez comes in for Pine Creek and it'll be zon and Gutierrez trying to bring this ball off Gutierrez tries to set a pick is on beats it to the right quick reach in by a day of Richmond that's the fourth foul for the Knights against three for Pine Creek and Hayley Murdock to inbound that ball gets it into Bailey and Pine Creek will set up the offense Fairview pushing them way out today Gutierrez couldn't handle it steps out of bounds and it's still 6-2 to Fairview ball and that's what that pressure will do to you and you can see what Fairview is doing defensively they're picking them up right at half court using that half court line as a as another defender and they're forcing turnovers tonight Pine Creek backs up on defense this time Panem brings the ball easily across the time line dipinto on the right side cutters they come up top and again stepping in there and they're gonna get a block this time on Haley Murdock we thought they picked up her first foul earlier but she didn't so I circled the first foul I scribbled it off and ivory circled it so that one on the sophomore Haley Murdock Panem will inbound the ball underneath the basket pass inside stolen by Bailey Bailey a good job defensively scramble no fouls call Pine Creek is up get it to Murdock on the side she'll go up block by Pinto and out of bounds and almost into the lap of videographer Adam Parker down there on the baseline by Denali Pinto is everywhere she's got all six of their points here with a good block nice job going up with the right hand swats it out of place you got three rebounds already in this game two and here's it tipped away from Fairview Fairview gets the ball out to Richmond Richmond down low can't get it to go pintos there for the rebound a good job by Murdock take that ball away from her Haleigh Murdock sprinting up the court gets it to Gutierrez in off her hands and out of bounds it'll be Fairview basketball well because of that pressure a Fairview pine pine creek is gonna get some opportunities down the other end they scored their only basket in transition they've had a couple of good looks but when you get those opportunities you got to take care of the ball and get a shot up Pinto now comes forward get to De Panne him back to Pinto it's good pressure defense out front by Pine Creek they're gonna watch inside there's Pinto outside for three give her all nine points for the night so far tonight more pressure from Fairview zon comes forward gets it to Bailey Bailey being guarded by Pinto takes her inside now though work that ball around Bailey was inside again tough pass goes out of bounds Alaina Murdoch good idea a little tough execution and in comes Orianna Martin for Pine Creek and out comes zon that was a good look down there on the baseline just needed a little spin on that ball to keep it in she made the nice bounce pass inside but didn't connect so Fairview back on offense Richmond on the side cutters galore get it to Izzy Munson and over to Pinto until thinks about it now inside Panem nice turn shot good Ashleigh pan of the first non Pinto related player this score for the Knights today 11220 the Ayers brings it across the time line it's tied up a little bit they're gonna call a foul on Panem that'll be the fourth foul on the Knights to go with four gets Pine Creek I believe that's the second on Panem and it is Ashlee Panem senior guard 18 points per game last season first-team all-conference player you know the coach rod Beauchamp wants to make sure she stays out of foul trouble so Beauchamp comes in with just eight players today - so want to watch that you want to get too many people I'll trouble there on the ground good scramble for the ball and timeout called by fair viewed a good job by Rob Beauchamp to get that timeout called and they will keep the ball 11 to 2 but Dave what's pine creek got to do to get back into this game well first of all you got to take care of the ball they've got seven turnovers already in this game and you know you look at that number they've had opportunities in transition they've gotten behind that pressure a couple of times but they've gotten in and they've turned the ball over and then on the other end you look at Fairview they have been red-hot nine points from Pinto two from panem we talked about their top two scorers to the top returning scorers in the whole state of Colorado in this one team and they've shown it early in this game certainly have coach doback gets her team back out on to the court good timing timeout by coach Beauchamp and they point I was trying to make earlier they only have nine players on the roster they only brought eight down from Boulder today so you really don't want to get people in foul trouble pan and with two here in the first quarter they had to bring in faith Anderson to take her place you see how Fairview can attack with her in the game top Lampert over to pinto pinto drives baseline gets it up and in she's gonna be tough to stop today Denali Pinto you got to cut off that baseline yeah she shot the three she's hit one of those as well she penetrates she's a she looks like a good all-around player for the Knights Gutierrez up top working inside Murdock to Murdock shot up won't go and a box out in faith Anderson gets the rebound here comes fair of you hit doe eyes up goes to the corner to Monson back to Pinto ride Beauchamp says swing it they get it down low faith Anderson working on Murdock puts it up easily can't get it to go it comes free Bailey pushing it up the court running down - Martin Martin will take it in good ball movement - Bree Bailey on the right side can't get it to go and Pinto gets the rebound long pass ahead to Richmond who stepped on the line and that'll leave Pine Creek basketball I was a good look and a good aggressive play but there was a lot of white jerseys back Pine Creek did a great job of getting back on defense run back to the paint turnaround and they create the turnover as a result of that and faith Anderson comes out of the game and into the game are a constant appleís say that three times faster inside nice pass to Bree Bailey won't go and the rebound comes to Izzy Munson they get it out to Pinto Pinto running draws the defense to or loses the basketball out of bounds and it's gonna stay with Fairview with 41 point 9 seconds left back into the game comes Sidney's on junior guard for Pine Creek for Gutierrez down low inside Pinto Pinto puts it up and in Denali Pinto 511 senior guard here comes on see if Pine Creek made the place with a last shot here in this quarter - Martin and Murdoch - Murdoch across is on I ran the baseline good ball movement again by Pine Creek get that open shot Murdoch can't hit it Fairview comes down with it pushing that ball forward is he Munson Munson up and she is fouled as she goes to the basket and hailey Murdoch I believe is going to get her second foul called on her well a good good ball movement told by Pine Creek and end up getting a good shot on this end and here's Izzy Munson coming right at you aggressive play she picked up that loose ball goes coast to coast with draws the foul and she's at the line first one good for Izzy and Gutierrez comes back in this time for Haley Murdock with the two fouls so Murdock a no grodd me have two fouls now for Pine Creek Panem with two for Fairview shot up and good busy Monson two for two for the free throw line so less than 10 seconds forever.you wants pressure Gutierrez puts it up to knocked out of bounds by Pinto it'll stay pine creek ball 4.1 seconds let's see what the Eagles can do with the basketball Gutierrez InDesign back to Gutierrez thinks about it gets it down low and that shot will not come in time and that's the way the first quarter will end Fairview up 17 to 2 we'll come back with second quarter action right after this on 20 TV you welcome back inside Pine Creek High School the Eagles taking the court again against Fairview down 17 to 2 Jordan Gutierrez brings the ball up gets it over to Bree Bailey nice open shot on the side Bailey can't go Gutierrez there for the rebound gets it out to Zahn swing that basketball and this is Elena Murdoch won't go at Pinto grabs another rebound for Fairview up the court they come on creeks suffering from some turnovers early and Fairview shooting lights out so far that girl with the ball thenali Pinto doing the most damage inside they try to get it to PanAm who's playing back in there with two fouls and they call a push on Martin these two teams played last season up in Boulder and Fairview 155 34 to start almost identical last season Fairview up 18 to 5 after one quarter inside easy basket for Pinto 19 to 2 what he got her with now Dave 15 15 of the points and that is right at her average from last year nice pass inside Murdoch brings it up can't get it to go trying to get her own rebound it's taken away by Panama Panama looks up throw that ball down to Richmond Richmond quickly up it's the bottom of the basket with it but is fouled and she will go to the line and another foul against Orianna Martin her second foul when again Pine Creek got a good look at the other end and then here comes right back how quick in transition is Fairview they get to the rebound they kick it down all the way and then Richmond gets the good look draws the foul and goes to the line first one no good hailey Murdoch coming back into the game she has two fouls martin has two fouls Oh Grod knee has 2,000 we haven't seen cato groggy back into the game since the first quarter when she had to leave after those two early fouls so Richmond shot misses the second month good rebound by Martin but Fairview's pressing right away here get the ball ahead to Murdock in the corner to Bailey nice move to fake that get it to Zond good ball movement by Pine Creek and finally a shot goes in for Ariana Martin quickly up ahead Fairview comes right back at him I'm Creek good hustling Murdock gets the rebound you look up design but maybe forced that one a little bit it goes out of bounds but good job by Haley Murdock to get that rebound and what pine creek is doing a nice job of breaking that pressure moving the ball around getting good shots they're just not going down for me they just need to get something to fall for him there's a trail 19 2 for Pinto follow up top she'll take it won't go Murdock's underneath there may have gotten fouled from a high note they're gonna call white ball knocked out of bounds by Fairview good box-out down there by Haley Murtaugh - she knew she had the the knight right behind her went up and tipped it right over her right over her body knocked it out of bounds and the Eagles will get the ball Jordan Gutierrez back in the game Tia Valdez comes in for Fairview Gutierrez a freshman goes Pine Creek team zon brings it up to Elena Murdoch swimming the basketball inside and Murdoch again trying to get it out to Gutierrez and pintos gonna win the sprint no over and back as Gutierrez good job by Jordan Gutierrez - hustle back and touch that ball and stop the fast break absolutely that's a sure layup going the other way for Denali Pinto and instead it's a it's a turnover Pine Creek Munson now with the ball on the side up top Pinto she'll shoot it she's missed her last two now after a great start here comes Murdoch with the rebound passes it to her sister Haley Haley bringing it all the way up nice pass over in the court of those Gutierrez got it sorry for the grunt Germans going in nineteen six Munson inside shot up again Pine Creek with a rebound again it's Murdock Haley Murdock bringing it down gets it tried to get it to Martin and it goes right to Adam Parker our photog and I sketch out him nice one-handed catch down they were just gonna say Haley Murdoch's done a great job in transition of finding the open players but that time found the cameraman at a Parker Oh a nice steal Gutierrez Oh can't get it to go Zhong tried to get the rebound knocked out of bounds by Fairview broad Beauchamp not liking what he's seeing he's up off the bench and again Pine Creek getting good looks I mean nice play by Gutierrez to hang back get that get the steal and then puts up a good shot from about eight feet it just wouldn't fall Anderson and Richmond in the game for Fairview back in the game for Pine Creek outcomes Martin Bree Bailey down low can't get it to go Pinto with the rebound we got a foul called it's gonna be against Pine Creek and we'll have a one-on-one that's against Bree Bailey Bailey here first get a good look at it right there Pinto goes up VIN tolls got seven rebounds already in this in this game and she gets fouled on the play by Bailey and we'll see Denali Pinto at the line for the first time we've seen her shoot from just about everywhere else on the floor tonight why not the free-throw line gets the first one 22 6 now the Murdochs sisters ready to box out here that second shot is up and good 21 to 6 jordan gutierrez brings it up against that pressure into this time knocked away by richmond gutierrez gets it back i'm doing laying a Murdock Murdock stolen by Panem Murdock right there diving on the floor good hustle gets a diss on over to Bree Bailey shot up won't go rebound knocked out of bounds by Panem it'll stay with Pine Creek but how about the hustle of Murdock on that play great hustle and she's had a great first half I mean her hustle her vision everything they just can't get anything to fall Murdock inbound nice pass can't get it to fall again Murdock gets the rebound now download Gutierrez back to Murdock she'll shoot for three still won't go pinto another rebound and they push it ahead get it to daya Richmond inside and Pine Creek defense is right there and it's Elena Murdock on the ground they're gonna call a hail the ball and this will stay with Fairview 21264 33 left second quarter Panem with the will inbound the ball good tough defense by Pine Creek forces them and there's a turnover as they get it to xuong xuong goes up can't get it to go good hustle there by Gutierrez playing some tough defense on the press just to get the ball to Pinto she brings it across the time line Panem and Pinto in the corner to Pinto coach Beauchamp asked him what are we running we got to be moving and until gets it over almost stolen by his on back inside Valdes Richmond turns around backs up they're gonna call for a walk no basket that's a travel and Kato Grod knee it's gonna come back into the game for Pine Creek with 351 here in the second quarter coach Ubik once her team wanted her to bring the ball up but Gutierrez will do the honors Kazan nice pick from Gutierrez out top Bree Bailey thought about the three comes down with it back to Gutierrez up topic Rodney Rodney tried to get it inside knocked away by Munson Munson on the run has P know whither she makes a nice move maybe got away with a walk and got the basket to go really was a nice move and she gets the steal at the other end good active hands knocks it down takes it down the other way but was contested she gets the layup and then coming back the other way a double dribble on the Eagles they're gonna get zon for that another tough turnover for Pine Creek they're fair he gets the ball Elena Murdoch set to check back in for the Eagles Pinto for three won't get it to goes on tried to get the rebound it's not cut it out I'll get it to Pine Creek so Elena Murdoch back into the game for her sister Haley she'll have a seat the monarch sisters Elena a senior Haley a sophomore Oh Rodney trapped gets it - Gutierrez and Pine Creek beats them on the other side Bailey this pine creek moves that ball around ogród me good job keeping that basketball get it to Gutierrez in the corner Bailey thinks about it has Murdock down low nice post good ball movement again hug Rodney gonna take it into the lane up and edy Cato brodny how about that play Oh terrific played it all started with the ball movement good job of keeping keeping the ball from going into the backcourt they move the ball around and they'll get a good look right here coming right at you Cato Gradney the foul up and under gets it and that foul was called on faith Anderson her first 16 found for the night Oh Grod me it's that one to go nice three-point play the conventional way pine creek getting ever so close to the first 10 points working it around Pinto down in the lane spins they're gonna call up three seconds on faith Anderson inside I do like when they make that call to high school level it's they called it sometimes overlooked by officials that's right you don't see it a whole lot and sometimes you'll get those centers they get in the paint they just camp out and stay their faith Anderson did that and even though Pinto had the ball was dribbling around Anderson's got to get out get back in and she didn't that's what the turnover was house on comes forward on Crete trying to build on that three-point play by Oak Rodney and they're gonna call a foul out front on Izzy Munson that's number seven for the Knights that should send Zahn to the line for a one in one her first time to the free-throw line tonight Sidney's on the junior guard key here pine creek and make the free throws edge back into this game miss but a rebound down low Gutierrez tossed it out to Murdock who couldn't get it to go and Elana Murdock having a tough time trying to make baskets did a nice job of going up and getting that rebound Gutierrez got a piece of it tipped it over to Murdock she had it you got to keep that ball up high go right back up with it she brought it down a little bit just missed the mr.
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[Music] Mike turns on the afterburners Eddie scores touchdown Thunder darn ol in there here a Parker goes back wrong with it and the rampart Rams take the lead [Music] good evening and welcome inside Pine Creek High School for Girls 5a high school volleyball in Colorado Springs my name's brian german alongside dave Toller and dave - district 20 teams doing battle tonight we know that whenever two district twenty teams get together it's gonna be a good one it should be a great one tonight Brian you look at these two teams Liberty comes in there three and two in the conference Pine Creek is right behind them at two and three and when these two teams get together it's always a great match we'll take a look at the tale of the tape as you mentioned a pine creek comes in at eight and ten two and three in conference the Lancers are 11 and eight three and two and really the only difference in this is that one team beat Palmer that being Liberty and one team lost to Palmer both of those were five set matches so this is a real even match and you can see that from the numbers very competitive I mean you look all the way across the board pine creeks got a few more assists a game that they average that turns into a couple more kills per game that they average but very even across the board well it should be a good one we'll come back and have the start of this match between Pine Creek and Liberty right here on 20 TV after this you welcome back inside Pine Creek High School both teams being announced the Pine Creek Eagles finishing up their announcements right now we can set the starting lineups for you my name's Brian German alongside Dave Toller the Pine Creek Eagles will start with Gabby Wilson Macky McDonald Chandler Nelson and a ruff faith horton and Juliet bemble with Lauren Blount playing the part of the Libero and on the lancer side it's Kennedy Garn Hart Karina Florrick Kaitlin makhmour simmer East olk Avery Smith and Jordan Valentine with Nikita Elsner as the Libero and Davey we talked about it in the open to district 20 teams we're gonna see great sportsmanship tonight but usually when two district 20 teams get together the rivalry there's it's unmistakable and usually it is a great matchup it should be a great one when these two teams get together and they have a lot over the years now one thing with this rivalry it's been dominated by Pine Creek the Eagles have won ten of the last 11 games in this series we'll see if Liberty can end that streak tonight and we mentioned the Liberty Lancers come into this game in the 5a Metro League with a three and two mark Pine Creek is 2 and 3 and this is gonna decide it because this is the final match of the Metro League season so if Pine Creek is able to maintain that quote/unquote dominance over the last few years they will end up in the third place behind rampart and Coronado yeah of course you have those two that are well ahead of everybody else in the pack but these two teams battling for that number 3 spot in the conference and it should be a good one too good hitters on both teams you look at Liberty Jordan Valentine their senior middle blocker has a ton of kills this season on the Pine Creek side it's another middle blocker and another senior their team captain Juliette Bendel will be calling those names a lot we certainly will as well as Gabby Wilson on the Pine Creek side and Corinna Florrick who's kind of an up-and-comer as a junior for this Liberty Lancer team and a pretty cool story here as well Kennedy Garn hard right there number 2 on your screen is going to start serving and we'll tell you a little bit about that young lady a little bit later she had substantial spine surgery during the offseason and the fact that she's playing is is a miracle and she plays quite well at that well she certainly does I mean a bad case doli osis that was corrected over the summer and she gets us started here there's a scent right in the middle of Enel in a block right away by Liberty simmer East Oak was right there to stop Mendel right at the net here's another look boy what a great play watch doke gets it lined up gets the hands over the top the solo block for Stokes her seventeenth block of the season so darn hard serves again deep this time Pine Creek able to get it back to Vandal she'll go deep it out and it's two nothing Lancers and that's exactly what you want to do when you're in someone else's gym get a good start well exactly at the block before may have forced that ball to be hit a little too high in the ends up going out of play darn art dessert this time is set to the back row the Lancers will show their offense for the first time and this one's a bit too long inside by Corinna Florrick and that gives Pine Creek the side out yeah to two points there bite by Kennedy Glenn Hart she rushed up and got to set on that one long serve taking my Valentine Kennedy sets it into the net Pine Creek that's going to be Point Liberty and the Lancers have jumped out to a 3 to 1 lead and right away they get that serve back and to kill Kirkus comes back comes in for the Lancers getting across the net and Pine Creek will take the side out well I just tried for a perfect placement on that you could see where that ball was turning and trying to drop it into the short corner just couldn't couldn't get it in the ball goes over to Pine Creek Gentry Shannon and Kaitlyn CID come in for Pine Creek CID will do the survey over the net darn hard quick set outside what a hit arena floor that's a big-time hit what a great quick set and we'll get a look at it here's garden art settles underneath with the jump set and boy what a shot right there by Florrick for the point how about the back set by Garn Hart I think pine creek was looking for the outside hitter on the opposite side and garner Hart with a quick set behind her not the easiest set in the world no it is not you know when you do that it catches the other team off-guard and certainly did with florid skill Bendel now serving for pine creek that one's long Lancers will take couple of substitutions coming in for liberty Sammy peachy comes in to replace Garn Hart and Aaron McDonald comes in to replace Avery Smith back to serve for Liberty McDonald long on the serve both teams having a little bit of an issue when you serve it it's tough to serve it hard and low enough to get right across the net and in both teams maybe a little bit too fired up I was just gonna say that Brian to come into a rivalry game a conference game like this and well I just maybe a little bit a little bit too much blood pumping through the veins a little too quickly right now Alyssa Atkins nice serve this time Lancers can't handle it and Atkins will get the ace not five that's a great serve and again you try to get a placement looker that balls at back in the the back corner very tough to get a good pass on that serve Melissa Atkins that was a 21st save of the year or excuse me ace of the year so Atkins will go again good crowd as usual here at Pine Creek High School the Lancers being Lancers crowd being warned by the official at the net and now it's time to go Atkins again another top serve can't be handed yeah same spot that that was put in that was McHale Curtis who's in that back row and and just a tough ball to handle she's put two there well we'll see if she goes back there for a third time that conserve she did try and go back there but a little bit long this time and so far it's a even match here at six six and a good choice by Curtis back there she had trouble with the last two that one was awful close but she let it go he's a good look at the leading kill artist for the Lancers Jordan Valentine she gets to serve across Pine Creek sets it up on the outside and not a big enough swing there by Savannah not and the Lancers will get the point just jumped a little bit too early on that didn't get the whole hand just got the fingers on it and point goes to Liberty another serve for valentine quickly over Blount gets it there set it on inside and I believe it was tipped know they're gonna say it was out and give it to the Lancers well they sure looked like it was tipped let's get another look at it right here here comes the kill right at you it was not with my good balls a little slow to get up there and an a rough shot went out so it's eight six Lancers the bumps set on the outside not gets it over peachie sets it up on the outside coming right out is that out was it out it was off the block it was off the block good good hit off the block and another serve for Jordyn Valentine sorry Dave I was more worried about getting the ball back once up front that was Shannon getting it over and a nice quick hit right there by Anna ruff at Pine Creek gets the point that's one of those over balls and just caught Liberty a little bit a little bit off guard with that one good good chance there by by a pine creek and the serve will come back to the Eagles and that is faith Horton with the ball Gavin Wilson also check back in for Pine Creek 9 7 Liberty fans getting on Horton and another hit out by Pine Creek the Lancers have taken and they built a three point lead here early and that is why coach Molly Stowers wants to take a timeout for Pine Creek 10 7 and I think an important early lead for the Lancers well really is I mean they've come out playing very well and boy firt for Pine Creek they've missed some serves and they've missed a couple of attacks twice now savanna net not has been set up once she get into the net over on the left side then here on the right side hits one out so the coach here Molly stores just trying to get her team settled down a little bit probably just trying to tell them they have made a few too many errors both teams making errors of that when you get into a big rivalry situation like this sometimes you put a little a little too much pressure on yourself but maybe she's just trying to calm them down the Lancers on the other hand they'll be happy with it Marianas Esserman excited her team up 10 7 here in set number one yeah they came over just for a brief minute they were right back out on the court and when you're up and you're playing well you just want to get it going nice serve and a good bump on the back row they'll go to the offside Gabby Wilson nice pass up front to PG that block is right there for Pine Creek boy great job on the block that erupted was part of that we'll see who else got a piece of that they had the double block said if that was rough they got that block and sent it down and Pine Creek will get the point and the sir ruff and Gabi Wilson right there Lauren blunt with the serve liberty tough play right there peachie sends it out Lancers can't get it over without hitting the antenna and it cuts it to ten to nine that was sim Reese tolk and a tough ball to hit that ball was well out of bounds and a tough angle too to try to get it over and she hit the antenna I'll start it with the tough serve from blunt because she is again on the back row can't be handled from here McDonald having a tough time right now looks over at the coaches now being told she's alright Keita Elsner goes over picks her spirits up a little bit we'll see what they do here at 1010 one again goes back rover Elsner this time she gets the pass to peachy but double hit and it's gonna be pine creek who's now run off four straight points and coming right out of that timeout you know that's what the coaches love Molly Stowers called her team over talked to him a little bit they responded by getting four straight points once again do that all day the Lancers got to figure something out here and we're gonna have our substitution avery smith is going to be in and take the place of Erin McDonald so now Smith well we'll see if they continue to serve in that same spot or maybe attack someone else hope they go to Smith Smith gets it beat you with the nice it's blocked it out and that'll give the Lancers a point and stop the run alright just what the Lancers needed a great pass there by Smith sets up the hit right here goes off the block and out of bounds and good substitution right there Avery Smith comes in makes a good pass it leads to a point for Liberty and there's Kennedy guard Hart with the ball good heads-up play by Marianas Esserman to stop that nice served by Garn heart pine creek gets in system nice dig on the backside Liberty will get the place won over Smith does so Pine Creek again this time on the outside and a good kill right there that's Savannah not she got all of that one well she did and she's been struggling a little bit she missed on a couple but she does not miss on this one what goes around the block puts it straight down nice kill by the junior Savannah not there she's a good look at Savannah she heads towards the bench Chandler Nelson now it's this one in play Valentine decides to play it nice set up front and a great job by Carina Florrick who's got me going here for liberty great job by garner getting underneath this wall watch how low she gets sets it up a kill goes down for Florrick her second of the game I've done a great job so far those quick sets that's a tough serve it's gonna be playable and played by Pine Creek and that ties this thing up 13 or sometimes you got to get a little lucky put that ball right on the tape and it was falling over a great great spot there by Curtis I know they served by Curtis blunt handles this one Nelson to Bendel they try to go outside the look on her face she wasn't sure she got that one very well but it counts like priceless was the look look at the smile on her face I mean she knows that she didn't get all of it and you know sometimes you got a score with the basketball sometimes just go with the change-up and that's what she got right there Caitlin Syd with the surf plate on the back rope darn hard again the quick set on creak there sit plays it from the back row Barnhart has to play it up the bump set to Valentine and to free ball for Pine Creek back they come and we got a double hit get the point to the Lancers and David right now it's everything we expected it to be 1414 well I just runs back and forth I mean we saw Liberty get about three or four and relax coming out of the timeout I ain't Creek got five in a row and now Liberty on a little run with the serve that time Shannon hits it over for Pine Creek I set inside Valentine couldn't put it away good dig on that side by Pine Creek nice block by Nicole now to vendo she gets it to go for Pine Creek 1514 the Eagles sure would like to run off some points here well as a great dig by Lauren Blount that started the whole thing and there's the set to juliet bindle she's got a hundred and eleven kills on the season right now and right on cue she will take the ball she's back with the serve Bendel one of the seniors that was honored before this game three on the pine tree Squad it's the bump fair they'll come back row sit blaze it and it's gonna be out that's a tough place to hit I mean she's behind that that 10-foot line going for the back row kill and that was close chance some good topspin on it but just a little too far Liberty will take the serve we're all tied up at 15 right now it's too many errors on each team probably both coaches want their teams to just settle down just punched over nice play by the Lancers peachy plays it up and it's over by McDonald on the back side to Shannon the Lancers set it up he cheated far set to Valentine great play by geordan Valentine a leading killer on this team and what a play here to go with the dink what a heads-up play by the senior she had the double block in front of her a huge opening in the middle of the court right there and she just drops it in you could tell him his players have played a lot of volleyball they know exactly how to do things look for those open spots miscommunication there between Blount in McDonald that one falls and it's gonna be Lancers by - 1715 line back and forth we go what a great match we have here Darren McDonald to serve sit across the overpass liberties there to play at peachy outside again to Valentine this time it's blocked McDonald plays it peachy to Valentine again once is there over to Shannon off the block in out 1716 Pine Creek right back in it yep right back and forth and that ball was tipped off the block and it was tough to get that dig in the back to gauge where that ball was coming from went off the block went off to dig and point for Pine Creek Atkinson not back in Atkins to serve sends it back peachy on the outside the Valentine this one's blocked out Lancers get the point 1816 we're getting to that point in a set where one of the teams has to start to take over when you see Liberty stringing a couple of get together right now we'll see if they're the ones that can get a little something going Jorden Valentine in ace Jordan Valentine who leads this team with now 23 a sazon the season look at it again Dave boy what a great serve look at it coming in well that's not even on the line that's well inside of the line great spot Jordan Valentine put that in and like I said Brian leading this team with 22 aces picks up 23 right there and a huge point to put the Lancers up by three coach Marianas Esserman has to like what she sees Mollie Stowers trying to get her team to make a comeback here but this this this first set has been what we've expected it's been very close but this is the precarious situation you get a three point lead in a set like this late in the set you want to take control make it four make it five fine creeks got a score soon or they'll be in trouble well they sure doing this these are the points in these games where we find out which team knows how to win which team wants this one the most and we'll find out here soon enough Valentine to serve again deep sir Blount is there Pine Creek gets it outside to not stop by Liberty to come back a nice play by Stoke Pine Creek has to place it on the back row Valentine with the dig too peachy outside Oh makhmour makhmour tried to get that one over the sophomore for the Lancers a tough set there from peachy and makhmour couldn't get it done and she looped a long way around to get to that ball I don't know if she thought that ball wasn't coming to her but she came all the way around to get to it by the time she got to it was a little too late faith Horton with the serve Valentine plays at peachy back to makhmour stopped by pine creek and again it is Anna ruff up front and a rough doing a great job on the block well you see the height that looked more God on it but great spot for Anna ruff gets the block and brings the serve over the Eagles Dave Horton played by Valentine peachy on the outside stole couldn't finish it Scott can't block that one and give it to ruff and just like that I said pine creek need to score some points they're back in this thing tied up and two by Anna rough one of them she comes off the block with the last one she got off the kill ties this thing up two points for the junior middle blocker faith Horton again to serve there's Peachy the outsider a low hit that time my simmer East Oak and suddenly just like that Pine Creek they seemed to me there runs seemed to comes in forwards and five they've got four in a row right now and a little miscommunication peachy and Stoke we're talking after that last one Jordan with the serve overpass Liberty there to play it Donald backs up nice another stuff there by ruff both teams playing it at the net this time it goes over by Stoll Pine Creek on the outside Gaby Wilson good dig for a Liberty come on back they have to get it over one plays it it's time to back set the mat off the blocking out Savannah knot and Pine Creek had a two point lead now and it's time out for liberty the marianas Esserman wants to talk to her team now as they've given up five straight points I tell you what for Pine Creek two players up front and a rough and Savannah not are giving the Lancers all kind of problems they had the double block set up it forced a little lob kill over the top to that Pine Creek was able to play they sent not up she got the great kill right here on the near side those two players given liberty a lot of problems up front yep the Lancer is gonna have to look at the way they're setting the ball and maybe see a different place it looks to me like Pine Creek is pretty much figuring out exactly where Liberty's trying to go with that ball and being right there with a block and Pine Creek doing a great job of moving the ball around themselves right before the the kill from not that was here on the near side they set Gabby Wilson all the way across on the far side when you have that kind of ball movement you forced the defense to move around you end up getting a point out of it not just what Pine Creek did and they go up by two faith Hortons still serving for fine Creek up 21 19 they'd like to keep this run going peachie sets it to the center block and down Pine Creek once again gets the point summary still can't find any room around the block yep that was Savannah Nutt and Anna ruff and it's those two players up front giving the Lancers problems Horton again nice serve Valentine the overpass this time it's blocked up front by peachy and that stops the run and gives the Lancers to serve back nice play by Sammy peaches she's the center but on that overpass she just turns around jumps up gets her hands in a good position gets the point into that run for Pine Creek Elsinore with the serve want has it concrete a little bit out a system here and it goes into the net off the hand of faith Horton but suddenly it's a one-point game again the Lancers would like nothing better than to get a little six point run here their own and take set1 Keita Elsner the junior sends it over [Applause] set on the outside and it good hit by Savannah not not to put everything on that but to find the open spot go again a great spot had the double block right in front of her not goes up and just Dinks it right over the top great play 23:21 now pine creek fine creek trying to close out set one now lauren blunt serve on the back rub mcdonald handles it peachy comes way to the middle with that set that's a tough place to attack from on that back row it's out of bounds Pine Creek is one point away from set one victory when it takes your time sends it back McDonald the overpass Bendel was there the concrete gets to play it one plays it over peachie only outside that's a good kill by simmer East Oak simmer East Oak had gone to the middle so many times in the hit this time she comes down the line and finds plenty of space there and a good kill for the Lancers to keep him alive at 24 22 a much-needed win what a perfect spot she put that in down the line kennedy Garn Hart back in to serve I serve over Pine Creek that's gonna be tough a tough one to handle on the bump set right there Mayank wreaked a little out of sorts and a nice served by Garn Hart that really wasn't it all started with that serve you could see that ball just move and and floating as it came over the net Creek stays in system Bendel gets it over nice dig for Liberty Stoke hits it over for the Lancers they'll come back outside and Pine Creek takes the first set on the kill by Gabby Wilson they haven't gone over to Gabby Wilson a whole lot but they did right there in a key moment she hits the game-winner she's the second leading killer striker on this Pine Creek team she gives them the win in set one 25 to 22 we will come back with set number two right here on 20 TV you welcome back inside Pine Creek High School Bryan Durman alongside game polar and the Eagles have taken set number one 25 22 was the final but as we expected Dave that one was tooth and nail all the way boy it was right from the beginning Bryan and you talked about just a set of runs I mean yeah it just went back and forth the whole way and it ended up with the last run being on the Pine Creek side they did a great job up front with with their two players and a rough Savannah not were terrific in that first set and they take that one 25:22 we look at juliet vandal and Macky McDonald up front along with Gabby Wilson Gabby Wilson ended that last set Mendel had a couple of kills and Pine Creek tries to start it off here the overpass they'll take it nice block on they were passed by Gabby Wilson gives Pine Creek the one nothing lead yeah good start there for Pine Creek not a good start for liberty as the overpass comes over and the two front row players were able to just drop that over inside nice play again this is time it's to Carina Florrick beautiful set that time set her up for the kill it sure wasn't boy Sammy peachy got underneath that one set it up and Florrick had a good game as well that's her fourth kill in this in this match now PG will be back to serve [Applause] jump surfer beachy one takes it they'll set it on the outside block right there by Florrick and Smith Avery Smith calling for it she gets the bump set she'll send it over Pine Creek still in system on the outside Wilson and into the net against Liberty give the point to the Eagles yeah so good set in a good play right here the net near side there's a good shot at Gabby Wilson who had the the game-winner in the first game had that kill right there leads to a point for Pine Creek back into the game for the Lancers comes Kennedy Garn heart for peachy and Kaitlyn sit back to serve for Pine Creek Valentine with the dig Kennedy outside Smith got it off the block and down get every Smith the kill and the Lancers tie it up at two and again she's smiling look at her right there she knew she didn't get all of that one but again just enough got the fingertips on it goes off the block gets the point gives the serve back to the Lancers Gel Kirkus nice serve but they let it go and it sails just Long Pine Creek gets it back and Bendel will go back to serve want us come out Gentry Shannon back in Valentine with the dig nice bike darn Hart floor it goes off the block and outs it's three three but again a tough spot we'll get a look at it here the back set right here to the near side sneaks it inside the antenna off the double blocking point for Lancers great job on the back set by Kennedy going hard again the service error by the Lancers it's yeah a lot of times you want to point at that service error and a lot of times coaches try and point away from them but man it is tough when you have that chance to go up by two points three points and you yeah it's just tough when you just get it a little bit long and both teams now do it back to each other boy either unforced errors too I mean you work so hard to get that point you get to serve you you know I know you're trying to get the point off of the serve and put it in a perfect spot but boy sometimes you get that thing in you can build a little bit of momentum but these two teams go back-to-back serves with errors McDonald comes back in to serve she gets that one in and it's a double hit against Pine Creek that's five four and the Lancers would like to run off some points here as a great serve by Aaron McDonald though I mean it was hard it was right over the top of the tape and just kind of dove into the far corner she's a junior for this team defensive specialist long and you wonder - with these Serbs I mean everybody when you're missing that long they're trying to be so precise with it you don't see a whole lot of a missing short everybody's missing long just trying to drop it on that backline Horton and Wilson back in for Pine Creek Horton back to serve deep run McDonald handles it but on the overpass right there we've seen it time and time again tonight and a rough yeah and a rough just walking along that line just trying to find that spot the overpass there she is drops it into that open spot Horton again McDonald handles it peachie goes on the outside of Valentine that ones in that's what you like to see out of Jordan Valentine on the outside Jordan Valentine had four kills early in the game and she was quiet about the second half of that first set but not quiet at all right there is that ball game right into your living room right into Dan Hinkins face that's a videographer down there 420 TV get it - Gaby Wilson on the outside McDonald handles it peachy way across and a great job that time by summary stole to put that one away it's two in a row for the Lancers yeah really is nice set there by peachy and the kill she was a couple of feet back off of the off of the net puts it down Valentine nice serve played by Horton set it up on the outside for not good dig that time by Elsner but couldn't get enough of movement on the ball to keep it in play and a good kill for Pine Creek yeah a nice play by Savannah nod I mean she just jumped up and again just looking to find a hole and dropped it inside the line want to surf sends it over Ballentine has it peachy on the outside Stoke tried to go to that back corner picked off by Horton and back to Gabby Wilson McDonald plays it and yes into that on Pine Creek and I Lancers trying to keep a hold of a lead here in set number two after losing set number one and again just going back and forth that ball walked along the tape fell on the pine creek side and bindle wasn't able to handle it kita Elsner with the serve Orton plays it and set it on the outside of Wilson Elser can't handle it Gabby Wilson starting to catch fire for the Eagles another nice kill by Gabby Wilson her third of this of this match there's the set go cross-court with it and just not able to handle it for the Lancers Macky McDonald and Chandler Nelson back in for Pine Creek Nelson with the sir that one's long and out Lancers take that one-point lead 9 8 it's all about trying to keep the serve get a couple points Jordan Valentine had a nice run at the end of the previous set hands it off to PG who will serve now Sammy peachy the overpass handled by Liberty outside great job by Avery Smith dug out by Pine Creek of this one is hit over an ounce Maki McDonald 10 8 Lancers and peachy and try and get a run going here for the Lancers deep serve Gaby Wilson has to play it is a pump set to Vendela endo plays it Elsner back tough play there by then we'll try to put it home and he went out for Pine Creek and again to another one of those over balls but that time vendo a little too far back tried to sneak that in and a great shot right there it just goes just goes long and now a little run for the Lancers peachy and go outside of Wilson Wilson comes down the line with it Wow she looked like she had an opening in the middle and she went down the line still got the point it looks like she changed up her angle right there at the very end she was going to go into the block and that's hard to do up in mid air change the arm angle and instead of going into the block she goes down the line gets the point Kaitlyn Sid now trying to cut into this 2 point Lancer lead they serve dugout by smith Garn heart nice job at Florrick that Garn heart Florrick seems to be working pretty good for the Lancers really isn't again on the quick set there goes up Florrick nobody in front of her puts it right down and blow another one coming right into your your district 20 TV cameraman Mike by room over there behind Creek having a tough time trying to deal with those quick sets by Kennedy Garn heart and there's a double hit against the Eagles and now the Lancers have a four point lead at 13 and 9 they would like nothing better than to keep moving and Mollie Stowers doesn't like it she's gonna take a timeout down for really worked for in set number one she was down four was a little bit later but they came back and won that's that first set after whatever she told him to and whatever that was I'm sure she's gonna go right back to it now I know I would but vote for Liberty at the Cal Curtis the senior one of five seniors on this Liberty Liberty team that's gotten four in a row in and we talked about early on just trying to get those serves in get him in play neither team was able to but Curtis has put foreigner illing play Mollie Stowers a former player at the United States Air Force Academy played for the Falcons was actually a co-captain of the team her senior year in 2004 now she's teaching these young Eagles how to fly and again the Lancer is just out of that timeout quickly they're ready to go and they want to get back quick you you want to slow it down if you're if you're on the other end of this run if you've got it going you want to go quickly and here come the Lancers Curtis with the serve mind creaking system to Bendel and it goes off Kennedy gone hard she wants that one back since it's my bad 1310 Pine Creek gets the point yeah just a quick reaction she didn't know she had her teammate Curtis right behind her reached out and tried to play that one and that ends that run but a good run by Liberty vandal with the surf Elsner gets down Kennedy gone Hart the back I call a double hit against Garn heart she knew it and here we go back the other way and that's the way this whole match has been back and forth a little run for each side Valentine plays it darn heart back to Valentine got this one goes just long they say it was tit they yep they give it to him the Lancers get the call their coach Herman was up hollering next to me there's a look at it Valentine had the double block in front of her and gets the gets the touch and the Lancers get the point Karina Florrick to serve it over a nice dig by CID they go outside carne Hart barely gets a dig there Valentine plays it over and we're still a lot pine creek on the outside there's a hit goes down for Gentry Shannon and the Eagles get the side out I haven't seen many opportunities for number four Gentry Shannon but well at that time again hits it makes you hit it off the tape and avoided the block it hit the net jumped over the top of the block and ends up falling good look at the junior Gentry Shannon right there Melissa Adkins with the serve Elsner gets it pump set by Garn Hart to Smith off the blocking out Lancers up three 1512 a good job there there's Avery Smith and she had the double block in front of her had a little room they'll hits it off the block goes out of play peachie comes back in along with McDonald who will serve once can't handle that one and give the ACE to McDonald Aaron McDonald came in with 14 ACS into this game she's got a puppeteer network 1612 [Applause] I've served that time out and again trying to be so precise she just got the point in that spot the hard serve that was that was turning a little bit from right to left and the last one led to a point it's about 50/50 high-risk high-reward you go back there you get the point one time the next time you go over and it's out of play Wilson important back in they important with the Serb Dhamma maybe could have gotten away not playing that one it may have been out but it's an ace yeah this was this move an awful close yeah she knew it right away McDonald as soon as she played it she like I did not want to touch that one Courtney serve Ellesmere plays at peachy right upfront makhmour it is in 1714 Kaitlyn makhmour the sophomore jumping out at a gym boy she was and went right off the side of the block again had two in front of her picked a good spot Valentine with the serve he over passed but more was there pine creek can't play it they'll give it to the Lancers and Liberty fighting back here in set number two back-to-back kills right there by the sophomore Kaitlyn look more and Valentine the senior it's that one nice serve at a great dig on the back side by Horton Gabby Wilson plays it short peachie goes outside a great block that time once again by Pine Creek and they're doing a great job at the blocks today yeah they really are they had it set up right in front didn't even have to move that was not and rough look like rough got all of that one her fourth block of this game and a rough came in with 24 blocks coming into this game that was tough for balance time to play 18 16 now Pine Creek starting to make a run and this is about the time they made the run in set number one sure is and they did it with Blount serving Valentine plays it right at the net the peachy quick serving more pick more Caitlin make more didn't like the way she hit that one but you got to take the points where you can get them absolutely I mean she jumps so high but she was up there for so long just waiting for that ball beginning there's a nice shot at Caitlin McMorris she just came out top serve there laid over by not peachy plays it up Elsner plays it over here comes Pine Creek right back the other way good inside pendel beautiful touched by Juliet Bendel the senior for Pine Creek here in her last game at home that looked like it was gonna be trouble for the Eagles and then Bendel just kind of comes in out of nowhere really couldn't do a whole lot with that but gets the hand on it just swats it into the open spot Chandler Nelson back to serve trying to get the Eagles back to even here against the Lancers Stokes sends a deep port and plays it there's the back set has to just be bumped over by Pine Creek PTU will now set it up for flora once Pine Creek plays it over the free ball again for the Lancers this time peachy goes to the back sir yeah Hannah McDonald's there but no one else is to play that ball Pine Creek will take it and make it 1918 and again it comes off of that Pine Creek block there's a nice shot at Gabby Wilson who was up in the middle of that block and where the Eagles have done a great job on the front row tonight dig by McDonald peachy quick sets up before Elsner plays it over back outside Gabby Wilson sends it long ándale answers leave this one 2218 Gabby Wilson had some room over there too she stepped up and there was a lot of space on that back line just wasn't able to find it Liberty gets the ball back up to Avery Smith comes back in for McDonald and peachy will be to serve serve over three cats to play it back to Wilson blocked right there by Florrick and stalk again this another walk into the net now is avery smith and that was stoked that got up there's a great look at it right there it had the double block set up pine creek with the serve Smith plays it Elsner back to Smith double hit this time and pine creek has drawn to a 20/20 time as expected we said this would be a great match between these two and the first one 25 22 in favor of Pine Creek and retired late in the second Wilson Smith gets down findell right there and Liberty scrambling we keep this one alive Smith plays it forward back inside of endl nice block Florrick was there but pine creek still alive Smith bumps it high stole cast to play it over once the back sit on the outside the Horton good job by Valentine to dig that one out darn hard sends it to Stoke the one plays it on the back row here comes Pine Creek right back hatchet Valentine quick set Florrick and down once again fendle and pine creek right there with the block nice job by Juliet van Gogh great rally by both of these teams and Mendel gets the solo block was set up perfectly and boy what a rally between these two just back and forth and both teams you know a little out of position is they're just chasing down every ball they can to get it set up finally Liberty get set up for the kill and bindle is there for the block to put the Eagles up one Mollie stores this is really a replay kind of a that one in Liberty was up Stowers takes a timeout and they regain the lead liberty takes a timeout so so is talking to a team right there now I still got 30 seconds left in this timeout Pine Creek gonna take their time they have regained the lead if they can win this here that could really you know put a damper on the Lancers if they could go up two sets to none they certainly could and again you see every single timeout Liberty is out quick they're ready to play fine Creek taking their time and they will get the ball they have the serve and that will be Gabby Wilson Wilson sends it over Valentine they're darn hard in the middle to Elsner laid on the back rope once to Horton that one's out and the Lancers are tied to back up at 21 the key portion of this game we're gonna have a substitution Stoke will come out Kirkus comes in to serve and Curtis did a great job earlier in this set she went off about four straight points and you know that's what the Lancers would love to see right now gets it they get to go back side pay Portman it's played right over by us Avery Smith does a great job playing that with a fork nice dig by Pine Creek keeping it alive that come back outside to McDonald and the Lancers go way outside the balance on watch at the net again Valentine McDonald on the outside good tick by Curtis John Hart with this the bump set that's blocked some Lancers with another chance Avery Smith great play but a good job digging it by Blount now Horton plays it what a great rally here by both teams darn hearts ends at the Valentine another hit but on the overpass Garn Hart middle of the floor across what a great rally by both for these teams Dave the Pine Creek in the end gets the point phenomenal volleyball right there what a great dig by Chandler Nelson who went at that last ball one hand diving to a right kept that ball in play and led to the point light by the Eagles but boy what great volleyball on both sides some fun to watch we told you it was going to be Juliet the overpass by Ballentine McDonald tried to get it they'll send it to Valentine she'll keep it alive nobody is way out of system on this one Pine Creek now they'll get it going darn hard to Valentine town the line Gabby Wilson with a good dick I'll get it to Bendel she couldn't play it over 22 22 this is turning into being quite the set here set number 222 all Karina flora the junior gets it over and miscommunication there between Wilson and McDonald and the point counts give the ACE to poor Oh a great place when it's coming right at you yeah just right between the two Eagles a nice spot my Florrick and the the Lancers go up by one I think Dan Haines can get a little scared he's no longer operating that hammer down there Marcus Rodriguez doing a good job for you the middle set to McDonald Laura can't handle it whether he tries to stay alive and we're tied at 23 now boy great hustle going back to chase that down by like McHale Curtis she went a long way to to try to keep that in play wasn't able to and we are back tied up serve goes to the Eagles Matty McDonald back there McDonald surfs it into the net boy and that is don't want right here because that not only gives a point to Liberty it gives them a chance to win with the serve 24:23 Smith and Garn Hart come out and it's gonna be McDonald trying to win this one from behind the line Aaron McDonald [Music] serve deep orton plays it runny after the play get it to Horton at the net Elsner plays a peachy Valentine down the line nice dig by Wilson here comes Pine Creek back Blount has to play it Valentine peachie Valentine hoses it out for Liberty and you would think give me in Liberty high school right now it is loud in here Dave as the Lancers have come back to take set to the final this time 25 23 give it to the Lancers were tied up in a set of peace we will come back for a set number three right after this on twenty TV you we're back inside pine creek ice and hide in a set of peace as the Liberty Lancers came back to take September 2 25 23 after Pine Creek once at 125 22 I got a feeling day we're gonna hear a few more scores in the 20/20 range and then maybe 1513 who knows I think we will Brian and before we went to break you were mentioning the crowd and boy right on cue there's a shot of the crowd they were going crazy as they should be boy what a what a great set that was we thought this would be a great match coming in and it has certainly held up to that so far if you happen to be tuned in and facebooking don't realize at these two high schools a couple of miles apart here in Colorado Springs Gabby Wilson with a nice play good dig by Garn Hart Lancers keep it alive Ballentine sends it over coming back to Bendel Valentine plays it on the back row current Hart nice set floor it couldn't handle it though and it's one nothing pine creek yeah I came in a little late just tried to punch that over the top of the block and wasn't able to the serve goes over to Pine Creek Chandler Nelson with the serve deep serve Valentine plays it Avery Smith Horton has to play it Chandler to Bendel my sir nice set for four or excuse me two stole can that one to send out by the Lancers and Pine Creek takes it to nothing lead Chandler Nelson is a good look at her up quick served by darn Hart and they're gonna call underneath the net on the Lancers and quickly the Eagles have jumped out to a three to nothing lead yeah and again just some miscommunication right there that was that was Florrick that was trying to come in or Stoke I should say coming in a little late for that kill nice serve darn heart sends it up Avery Smith gets gets it to go over Blount keeps it alive Nelson sends it over darn heart outside Smith Avery Smith off the tip and out and Lancers get their first point Avery Smith the sophomore with a nice hit on the outside a good back set right there and she just had the single block in front of her had some options chooses to go down the line with it and gets the point now comes stolen in comes the Cal Curtis for the Lancers [Applause] because a deep sir blunt chooses to play it Nelson outside Wilson she goes deep played by Kirkus Elsner plays it Valentine not sure if that was going in or not Horton played it it'll be a point for the Lancers yeah would have been awful close but it was over everybody and you can see coming back to to play that ball that was Horton had no idea where the line was she had her back turned to the play and Valentine he gets the kill Blount on the back row Nelson outside McDonald Elster darn Hart nice set to Valentine blocked up front nelson plays it back Blount has to go and now Horton will try and play it over and again some miscommunication Horton and Bendel not sure who is going to take it and it gives the Lancers a point and they've tied it up we've seen both of these teams with a little communication issues on both sides and that time it was Pine Creek one Nelson Bendel blocked right up front Lorcan Valentine where there Valentine couldn't play that one is Pine Creek the Eagles done a better job at those plays off of the blocks today and just kind of a scrambling play that time that's your sitter chandler Nelson they just turned around and got a got a finger on it gets it over for the point Abby Wilson with a nice serve that's bygone hard too many hits and that's gonna be pine creek taking a five to three lead now and it started with the good serve by Gabby Wilson that you know the pass was tough to to receive for Liberty and it led to that point instead of Fork again on the outside that one did not go over the net and before hits all against the Lancers and it's 6-3 pine creek just like that back up by those three points yeah Liberty got a little disorganized on that one again time to get it back from darn heart nice play right there by Jordan Valentine recognizing a hole in the Eagle defense tenth kill of this match for Jordan Valentine and boy again not trying to go through the block just goes around it finds a little open space and gets the point back to serve Florrick another kill again Valentine but it was out it was outside the antenna let's take a look at it again we should be able to see that it was outside yeah could not tell from our angle here comes Valentine right at you yeah it sure was yeah Abby Wilson even said about Mendel else who plays it Garn hard in the middle of the fork that Valentine inside there great job by though answers again there's the quick-set garden hearten boy when you can get that play set up it just works to perfection jordan Valentine one of the top killers in the league even in the state as well there's a good look at it right there 11 kills on the night here in McDonald with the serve Gabby Wilson on the back row they'll go outside this time - Jacqueline Cleary is in the game for Pine Creek job by Valentine the play it'll come - McDonald off the block played on the back row now peachy - Valentine blocks this time Elsner keeps it alive but the Lancers can't keep it going and Pine Creek still with that three point lead now at 8 to 5 that was Mackay McDonald and a rough in there for Pine Creek we'll get a look at it right here you'll see him slide in front they get the block in the point Sid Cerf sends it over peachie back to McMorris now to McDonald for Pine Creek Lancers keep it alive Elsner plays it on to nice job by Wilson to keep it alive and it's gonna be a double hit against Pine Creek that shows you just sometimes when you then you attack on to it gets them just a little bit off of off of their game and you know you never know what can happen in that time it forces the Eagles into two hits Jordan Valentine nice Serb Blount handles it Nelson Eddy the Clery that one's out when it was a nice received to by Blount she came up and and didn't have to make the the dig the diving dig she got her feet moving made a nice play on it in there saying it touched in there getting that point to Pine Creek High coach Marianas Esserman can't believe it but yeah that's what they call they called a touch on the Lancers points Pine Creek Horton mr.
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