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44-41 spartan's still in the lead 10's definitely a good player on the offensive pack by shaw come on brady come on brady and it's yeah brady with those underneath baskets breaking that hustle back that's dangerous yeah we've seen him hit a couple of those before three from 10. and it's good he's he's on fire tonight yep oh this coach is hyping them up a lot scores 46 44. spartans are still in this so is chag it's definitely a fight to the end it's not going to be an easy way for anyone like oh oh great number 10. that was incredible you definitely got some good sent that ball into the bleachers yeah ten's on fire he said good cut good pass all right you can do about that three subs come in number three number eleven number thirty for number thirty three forty four and twenty let's see how this lineup does i wanna say this is their starting line but i can't remember neither can i but it looks like they're a little bit faster yeah number three and he's fast number 11 too yeah all right carter brings ball up screen by mccackney and layup by carter and it's another floater yeah he tried to swap that but carter got that height on him all right three with the ball back to 10.

[Music] tough call jack a good deed yeah it's definitely getting heated between those two yep they're talking to each other right now i think sweeney's talking to you bad let's give him the benefit of that he's talking about definitely bad all right let's see what spartan's defense does here hopefully we get a nice stop forward with the drive good help by brady but they're going to call a foul for a block and that's that's the toughest is that his third i hope not is it on yeah well that was backwards that was 53 but sorry nice try rough it's his 35 yeah all right brady's really going to play smart defense here but that's his third foul and there's four minutes and 30 seconds in the last quarter so yeah i think he's good let's not jinx it though yep knock on wood somewhere all right time with that ball with sweeney with the defense oh we need help defense in there from the corner and it's no good all right let's go sweeney carter looks like they have numbers to cam and cam with the three and it's good to go scores now 51-44 with four minutes left spartans leading 10 with the long three again and it's off it's going to be spartan's ball timeout let's go we definitely got them sweating in their boots again that three is going to give him some momentum he finally hit when he's been taking them right chuck has one timeout left with four minutes and three seconds that's dangerous you know if it's a close game he's he's a little stuck right there spartans have four fouls now though you gotta keep track of that because that could be that that's nothing towards the end of the game yeah that's for us yup all right definitely that timeout got the spartan typed right there yep you definitely know that chag's a little nervous right now both teams got to come out strong and keep fighting till the end though yep bringing in plenty of time yeah exactly it's only 51 to 44 with the spartans up it's a lot of time to make some changes here honestly these teams are going to fight to then so there's no telling what can happen right now all players are bringing great hustle right now though they're all fighting to the end i love how their coaches hype them up i love it there's so many of them all right mars inbounds it to carter and carter brings that ball up the court a little bit of pressure yeah three backs off though carter's non-stop beat them up that court every single time mara swings it to carter to brady brady's going to dish it out to cam cam with the long three oh it's just up brady with the rebound let's go cam with that drive but gets tipped by 30.

good follow on his shot though yeah definitely needed that offensive rebound oh cam with great defense right there almost pushes him back over the line spartans need to stop right now yeah time's ticking down for chag right now 10's going to go in good and great defense they can't jump out all right we'll take it i'll take you guys great defense yeah shaw's definitely pushing it out there yeah 100 all right let's see what the carter's gonna do and he backs off again sucker he's beaten every single time yeah he's pointing them nice ball handler right there so we needed shaw oh he could have had that nice cut got a little tied up in the middle though all right spartan's got 10 seconds left on the shot clock but it's harder to get in the lane and he does but it's just off 10 with the tip 10's always and foul believe that one was on sweeney yep all right that brings us up to five team fouls with two minutes and 48 seconds left they're not no shot was on that so they're going to inbound the ball still two to give before they win 101.

carter on three tips the ball nice steal let's see if he can get it off and he does to mckechnie that was awesome d with carter right there that's a huge thought for them right now ref got in the way but he ducked all good yeah they're playing tight d on cam right now he's on fire hit his last few shots score still the same hasn't been much oh but ball's just picked off by number three and four with that drive and it's good but he gets his rebound yeah that's tough four is definitely strong under the hoop right there there's no messing around with him foul on 15 camshaft brings us to 16 fouls and now the score is 51-46 number four is on the line for one two minutes and 15 seconds left in the game it's good makes the free throw three-point play for four it's a five-point game right now carter with the drive kicks it out they dish it mars up to sweeney handoff back to gemara's they use a lot of handoffs in their offense it works well for them yeah ready with a step back three oh sure that was good though they were running out of time on the chop clock right there i had to get something up thirty wide open pulls back dishes it to three three to eleven i'm just gonna go to four for that three and then it's off off and comes down strong nice rebound third is gonna play d on him as he brings the ball up he's a jack's off [Music] score is still 51 to 47 with a minute 20 left in the game 16 fouls for spartans and two for fantasizing for three and it's good beautiful three there we go yeah spartans with a little over one minute left in the game you know it always seems to get 10 hyped when they score it always goes back really fast after that oh oh yeah definitely foul number four i can call that before the right time yeah there we go that brings chags team fouls up to three with 56 seconds left 56 seconds left in the fourth quarter with the score 54-47 spartans ball good hustle by the spartans now not giving up on anything yeah hopefully they don't let them time out by sweeney that's a good call not look happy with that they were playing really tight defense i don't think they had a press break going they all kind of just stood there i think we have a lot of timeouts to give too with 56 seconds so well i mean it does give jog you know a couple a breather and time to yeah yeah hopefully we come out with a new the spartans just run the clock they can even if they don't even get a shot it uses 30 seconds it gives chag to come down they what 30 seconds because they take a shot this is going to be a nice one if we do win it's a nice win for spartans since how hard they fought and how they didn't get about the whole game yeah good effort on both teams i mean neither team gave up avad approaching the court right now he wants to be a player again he misses it wants to relive his glory days i do believe you played at springfield college i think so too sweeney inbounds ball while chag presses oh my god that's the same press break as us yup swing it carter brings that ball up with a foul on number three they're definitely trying to stop the clock right now it's a little unfortunate hopefully carter can make both of them falcons do have three more fouls to get before it is one and one though right yeah let's definitely see that yeah exactly yeah you're wide open yeah it's just gonna keep happening until they get to one and one that's a good play for child right there definitely a smart move we might be having some technical difficulties right now we're not sure but the score is four 54-47 again foul on child six fouls for chag now time is now running down to 41 seconds and six seconds like two of them were on shaw yep i think one of them was on ray definitely i think they're good players [Applause] come on cam beats that easily 11's definitely getting angry out here i see them melting off the cam a little bit maybe they're friends but i don't think it's that kind of doc but and now can we get the benefit of the doubt yeah benefit that's before i can sink these two so it helps just there we go score is now 55-47 spartans in the lead 38 seconds left give this barnes an eight-point lead just off but rebounded by number 10 he pushes that tempo a lot gives it to wide open number 30 and it's good timeout by oh by falcons i believe that's their last time out but i think the falcons are going to come out pressing i didn't think they had another timeout left but maybe i was wrong i do believe hockey is up next i think they will be broadcasting on lcat as well at eight o'clock yeah definitely go stream our guys out there hope it's 8 10.

maybe they've started after after this game gotta watch the end yeah can't leave yet i think it was at 8 40. oh maybe yeah [Music] all right so spartans approach the court again it's gonna be spartan's ball all right 29 seconds left score 55-49 let's see how we finish the game oh geez oh all right good sportsmanship right there shaw tried to save that ball looks like looks like they are good yeah they're friends we read that wrong we read that wrong but great sportsmanship right there eleven pushed him out of bounds cam tried to save it hit back at eleven and you know came back strong kind of looked like it hurt yeah looked like it almost hit his face but definitely good sportsmanship right there just trying to save the ball playing hard all right one-on-one cam with that nice one brings it up to 56.49 spartans not getting it all in there you know just rather hang back and play a good d and cam with that easy one so that's 47 49 spartans definitely gives 25 seconds left oh unnecessary foul right there that's all right i think that's his fourth sells one more i think yeah i don't oh that puts him in one and one though yeah it's a little dangerous to have four on the line considering how good of a shooter he is but let's see how he does there's 22 seconds left in the game score 57.49 and it's good it's a seven point game right now spartan's still leading 50 57 spartans on top with 22.9 seconds left in the game and it's good for was ready to get his rebound out there that fast yeah that's good offensive rebounding all right cam breaks that pretty easily but they round those guys yep 20 seconds left they're just completely stalling right now good composure by the spartans right here yeah definitely keeping it classy you know score 57-51 six-point lead right now by the spartans cam on the line for double bonus i think and it's good spartans are killing it from the free-throw line yeah and they definitely have to have a high percentage after this game it's not something we can do and it's off 11 brings the ball up pretty fast takes that three and it's quite off brady with the rebound 10 fouls again stopping the clock at 13 seconds at least parents can come to games though makes it all better brady on the line it's just a little bit off a little strong and the second shot and it's good makes the second free throw brings them up to 51 falcons with 10 seconds on the clock 10 pushing that tempo once again hot oh 11 with the wide open drive but dishes it out to three and it's off air ball and game is over that's bargains win 59-51 great effort on both teams glad we came out with that win all right logging off you

good afternoon and welcome to the committee on education today is wednesday february 3rd 3 o'clock p.m and we are in room conference room 229 for hearing uh agenda of seven bills this meeting including the audio and video of remote participants is being streamed live on youtube you will find links to viewing options for all senate meetings on the live and on demand video page of the legislature's website this zoo meeting and youtube live stream event will include the three o'clock agenda for the committee on education in the unlikely event that we have to abruptly end this hearing due to major technical difficulties the committee will reconvene to discuss any outstanding business on friday february 5th at 3 o'clock p.m and a public notice will be posted on the legislature's website i'd like to take this time to remind our testifiers that due to time restrictions on our hearings we will be limiting testimony to one minute per testifier per bill for the people participating remotely all testifier audio will be muted and video disabled until shortly before it is your turn to testify when i call your name staff will unmute you and your time will begin after your minute is completed staff will mute you so that we can move this hearing along in an orderly and efficient manner thank you we are going to start with senate bill 224 relating to education this gives a preference to students who live within the service area of a school or who enrolled in the school the previous school year who apply for participation in a career and technical education program offered by that school establishes enrollment in a career and technical education program as a new exception to the requirement to attend school within the service area in which a student resides to testify on senate bill 224 terry ushijima interim assistant superintendent on behalf of the department of education good afternoon chair kidani vice chairman khan of kim and members of the committee i'm on interim assistant superintendent of the department of education testifying on behalf of superintendent christina kishimoto the hawaii department of education recognizes that intent and respectfully provides comments on senate bill 224 and stand on our written testimony thank you for your support of our cte programs we know that it is one of the vital pathways along with others to provide students with opportunities to pursue their interests and aspirations and benefits our future state workforce the system in which a school determines entry into career and technical education program varies with each school design being unique schools weigh ge applications with existing resources example availability of space instructors equipment for the various programs when approving the applications including cte thank you terry members are there questions we have other written testimony but she was the only oral testimony if not moving on to senate bill 518 relating to education requires the department of education to establish and implement the sexual abuse prevention education program to educate public school students on sexual abuse prevention provide relevant training to teachers and staff and inform parents and guardians about important child sexual abuse topics requires the board of education to adopt policies to effectuate program requires reports to the legislature appropriates funds to testify on senate bill 518 terry ushijima testifying on behalf of the department of education thank you very much chair kidani at the hawaii department of education who stands on our written testimony and respectfully provides comments on this bill currently the department implements board policy 103-5 sexual health education and is updating a list of vetted instructional materials for sexual health and sexual violence prevention which includes all of the proposed knowledge and skill requirements for child sexual abuse prevention instruction to students with the ongoing work of the department we continue to be committed to supporting students health well-being and safety and safety currently addresses the issues highlighted by this measure should the bill or should the measure move forward due to the scope of the proposed proposed statewide program the department anticipates that additional time will be needed to prepare for training and implementation the department respectfully recommends that activities and appropriations be extended over three years of phased activities with the first year being used to prepare for phase two thank you terry members questions if not our next testifier is judith clark executive director for hawaii youth services network judith aloha i'm judith clark executive director of hawaii youth services network and we are in strong support of this film the only education i received about sexual abuse as a child was to be aware of strangers but it wasn't a stranger who molested me and five other girls in my fourth grade class it was our school bus driver every child on the bus watched the abuse take place daily for a month or more but none of us knew how to report it or knew that it was the wrong thing when we when someone finally reported it to the school and we were called into the office by the to talk to the principal every one of us thought that we were the ones who had done something wrong if we had received education about sexual abuse we would have recognized it immediately known how to seek help and understand that we were not to blame for what had happened it could have been stopped after the first time with the first thank you judith members questions not our next testifier on senate bill 518 is ryan kusumoto president and ceo of parents and children together ryan thank you chairs and committee members i see aaron marin listed as a testifier and i would humbly like to yield my time to her if that's possible go ahead excuse me now go ahead thank you one in four girls and one in six boys are sexually abused by the age of 18.

the meeting to order craig if you want to do a roll call alice in luck here deborah mexico air jonah kopi david esau here sarah fuller you did you did what we see here sophie gray here john kotarsky here peggy leonard here and was santa young you have a uh and also council member uh radina here that don't want to forget the important one you have a quorum thank you um next we will move on to approval of the agenda if i have a motion for such so moved thank you david second second thank you dab any discussion of the agenda all in favor aye aye yeah post okay all right i think we're all in favor of moving on with the agenda and then we get to come to um our most fun part of the meeting are public comments and i see that we have erin and i'm assuming julian here with us to present so you guys can uh take it away well thank you so much for having us some it's a real honor to be here yeah thank you to venita who we've been emailing with um for inviting us can everybody hear us all right i just want to make sure okay okay fantastic um so yeah um so i don't know if all of you have seen the um slides that we sent to veneta um but we'll just give you a quick rundown of what who we are um why we're interested in getting more some more public art around ann arbor um and i guess we'll go from there um so yeah so aaron and i are founders of the pickle street mural co-op and we'll get more into what it is in a little bit but we are both recent u of m grads we graduated virtually of course um this past spring um and are looking to just bring more color to ann arbor um so yeah yeah yeah so pickle street mural co is a um mural organization that we've created to bring local artists together and have a platform to um paint and design murals locally and um yeah yeah so so again we we were both um u of m grads and we aaron was an art student um and i um helped found a mural painting company which again we'll get to in a little bit um but basically we loved the freedom that we had when we were students um of like being able to create an organization and have really anybody who wanted to be involved um and a lot of our friends we both had plans of moving out of ann arbor um after we graduated but like a lot of our friends we found that the social connections we made during um our time at u of m was like was something that we you can't get in society right now so we like a lot of us we actually ended up staying um around um in at u of m um like in ann arbor um and so we just decided that like why not just try to replicate the the freedom and the sense of community that we've had at u of m um and try to make a mural organization that brought in like our fellow muralists and our our fellow students and our friends and um try to build community while also making ann arbor a a more uh more colorful spot um so i see that i see that the the screen is up so yeah now i'll go into a little bit about my cell phone again i founded this organization called live in color which is a art organization at u of m um the most high profile mural we did was painting uh roosevelt roast um i don't know how much you guys know of john john roose but we came really close and after i painted um at argus farm stop actually he saw um the mural there and we ended up painting his storefront which turned out super well um and but mostly we were painting on campus um in the usually the older buildings um but it was just it was great because students from all across campus could come and like you can see from this picture most of the designs are very geometric so what what we would do is we would put up this like geometric kind of paint by numbers almost and then have anybody who wanted to free of um skill level or application be able to come and paint so it was a very inclusive um and uh beginner friendly place where someone could just come show up paint like one of these red triangles and then leave having a sense of ownership over space which was which was really great to see um and then also i i painted houses professionally which is where i got um a lot of the skills so these are a couple other places this top left one is actually in the now closed um in our brewing company um this bottom left one we teamed up with the union for their new opening which was super fun and we actually painted this well there was like that open tour of the union um and then the two on the right are in the uh modern languages building which is one of the oldest and kind of forgotten about buildings on campus so we were able to work with the facilities managers there and get bring a lot of color to the building and a bit about me i graduated with my bfa from stamps the u of m art school and i was an interplus disciplinary artist and painter and also i worked on a lot of community oriented projects on the very right i'm painting at the mario grocery store as a it was a performance piece slash um public um art proposal question about what it means to paint in an ordinary space like the grocery store and what it means to see this grocery store with the beauty of something you would give attention to like a beautiful landscape or something that is more traditional um and so yeah here yeah there's a few more thank you yeah a few more paintings and some designs um that i made throughout the throughout my school year um and um here are some larger scale designs from some artists that we really admire um yeah yeah i'll talk about so so like i said earlier a lot of the designs that i tend to gravitate towards are very just bright i think aaron and i both are just like very bright geometric um not political controversial like uh complicated but just simply bringing color and design and a sense of place to um a space and allowing again like i think what was so cool about the like out this this one we were on the left and some of the ones we didn't live in color we're just simply allowing anybody um who wanted to to be involved um and this is just an example of someone who has inspired me and morgan myers cloth on the right oh yeah so i met her through the stamps lecture series and she talked a lot about how designs can influence people's feelings of belonging and a sense of place um in their neighborhoods or cities um and i i really love her message yeah so this on this next slide there are um yeah so if you go to that yeah could we possibly have we go to the next uh yeah exactly so this is the first proposal that we have in terms of the place um you know and i are both big runners and we've run down along the arb um as i'm sure many of you have been here um and from the pictures you can see it's like just graffitied um and kind of forgotten about um and i think uh part of this whole project that aaron and i are both really excited about is like bringing back like belonging and also just like ownership to like forgotten about and kind of discarded parts of ann arbor um one that's like simultaneously a big three-way for a lot of walkers bikers runners and also one that's like not very high profile just in terms of its visibility um which i think is like a cool it both challenges people's conception about what matters but also just like brings color to a place that is forgotten um so we imagined again so i think this middle picture on the top is if you're coming from the argo cascades and you're walking down under the bridge um it yeah it's just it's granite concrete um and really just forgotten about so we both both into like plain geometric designs could could imagine just a really beautiful um design that kind of runs all the way from the top down into the bridge and kind of covers the graffiti obviously and brings a sense of place and color to a kind of drab and forgotten about part of innovation so that's the first design area yeah all right and this second design area is in this new tunnel that was just uh built we noticed uh these panels of concrete throughout the tunnels and um one day while we were walking or running through it we imagined it um each panel a different color and so it's like this rainbow tunnel of color um and thinking about how how much our inner child would love that um and um it could possibly go out if you look to the bottom right photo it could extend a little bit outside of the tunnel along the sides i'm welcoming people through um is your title an editorial comment our title lore damn argo pond oops typo maybe subconsciously yes freudian's clip we'll tell our editor that that was uh not okay yeah yeah so that's number two yes number two and this third one um this is in the same area under the bridge of division and depot street um just another nice fresh canvas underneath um and we could yeah we could envision another um more simplistic colorful design um something that is wonderful to drive by or walk by a run by yeah and so on these next slides we have some of our designs um so that you can get a feel for what we could come up with together um these are definitely examples um and we're super happy to work side by side to make a final design together um but we wanted to give you a taste um and then there's some more on the the next slide as well um do you want to say anything about these um yeah i mean so so these two so the the uh i think i think what's becoming i hope is clear is like the idea is like bright geometric color um again that like doesn't necessarily always convey a message but a lot of the time just like let people become excited and welcomed into a space um also yeah it's kind of combining this like this color and and everything with forgotten about spaces um which i hope was clear with the the couple the couple uh uh design areas that we included like under bridges and in graffiti spaces um and then tunnels and such so so again like aaron said we'd be more than happy to shift design um like exact designs and work with with you all um but we just wanted to have our message come across that like we were just super excited to about the possibility even of just bringing some sort of color and some sort of design to a lot of the places that have been somewhat neglected and but are still high trafficked yeah um and some of these that on this slide these words like write more friends do your art those are some things that i i took from my own like journaling new year's resolutions writing um so we could also even work with city members maybe set up a booth out at the farmer's market and crowd source words um and work with like the community for words in that sort of way um so something that's very um like a very democratic um thing yeah yeah i i believe i believe that's the last slide um like aaron said we've we have like a good amount of um funding that's simply like we both did this in college like aaron was an amazing artist and i was doing this mural painting and our families are supportive our friends we live in lower burns park um and are like wrapping ourselves in that neighborhood and so so we have we have the funding necessary to make this idea a reality um and again i just want to hit home the fact that like the the designs aren't like set in stone we're really just trying to bring a sense of color and yeah place and happiness to kind of a a gray winter and a great time in our lives um so we'd love to hear questions from you all if you have any or comments or anything really yeah thank you again for having us yeah yeah first of all i'd say thank you for being here guys this is awesome i have seen your work around town and love it um i would want to get some questions out of the way before we got too deep into it that actually this is for vanita and craig the um spaces that they identified are those all city-owned spaces um including like under the bridge there it's not any of it's like federal or highway or trans you know outside of your jurisdiction or do you know greg you're muted yeah first thing i'll do is get off from you um i believe all those are our spaces um and they mentioned they have funding so that's usually the biggest hurdle for us and a little bit on when we talk about the ellen creek berm opening that may be a good a good place to to put some of the murals [Music] and we can we can discuss the hurdle that we we are facing right there on that project right now because they're bringing the funding i think you folks could be the adjudicators of the art that is going up on it and it would be could be fairly streamlined yeah i mean in our experience we have found that including the public in the process the selection process has been beneficial not only so that they feel included and then have some sort of connection to the ultimate piece um but also then there is some input there's more ability for us to communicate with the public and emphasize the importance of public art which i can tell you guys really care about and are passionate about and so and also i love the fact that your murals allow the ability for the community to participate in the creation of them as well which i would encourage you know if you move forward with any of these projects you do not only in the selection of the artwork but in the actual installation um you know one of the things that we are charged with is communicating about public art but to do so is really challenging to find you know the outlets and stuff to do that i think your idea about going to the farmers market or things and talking to people and getting their feedback is great um so i would encourage you guys to include the public as much as possible through the entire process because as you may or may not have found um ann arborites are very opinionated and even a piece that you think is not controversial can be cloaked with lots of opinions one way or the other even if it's just color so including people in the process at least gives them the opportunity to say yay or nay or whatever and feel like they participated and in the end they were part of it they had their chance and they can enjoy it even more let me clarify when i said it was going to be it could be streamlined i was meeting we didn't have to do the ask for funding through council and go through that i did not intend to be excluding public input into the process out of it but maybe re removing some of the bureaucratic hurdles great but assuming there would be city staff that would be need to be involved as far as um like preparation of the area and things too uh i would assume when they say they have funding that they could prep those walls they are basically except for the dam tunnel um those walls are bare concrete i believe the damn tunnels already have been anti-graffiti coated so that that would if you're going to paint inside the tunnel you have to do something to strip the anti-graffiti coding off okay and then the other thing i would say that all preparations are not equal if you know you guys probably have seen a lot of the public art around town if you've noticed the building on i want to say it's on fifth to the fifth or fourth i always get the two confused but the old oxford properties building there's a two-tiered mural and we just talked with oxford properties in our couple of our meetings ago and the top of the mural that's on one building got prepped in one way and the bottom of the mural got prepped in another way and the top mural is peeling away and it's really sad and the bottom it still looks good um so you know we would want to know what your prep was and why you're using that prep and also when when you do a project with a city you leave historical remnants for maintenance purposes as far as how it was created and what type of maintenance you would recommend moving forward so that the city can do upkeep if they so choose to do so and and there would be uh some sort of legal contract because when you put a piece of art on a city structure you are going to give up all your artists rights to that piece of art meaning as an artist right you have we would have to preserve it if we didn't have your artist rights and you would have to sign away the artist's rights you would still get acknowledgement for it etc but if we were to demo the bridge we don't have to preserve the art sophia your hand is up yeah i was um maybe i was wrong but i was thinking there was already a plan for the tunnel to be we will discuss that a little later i believe the plan for the tunnel is not the inside of the tunnel correct it's at the end it's it's the lower wall as you come out of it oh so there's nothing inside planned at the moment no oh okay so wouldn't it be nice yes peggy i just had a question thank you for your presentation i love your designs and the idea the concept um you talked about involving the community in the painting process how does that work how do you get people how does the whole thing come together yeah i mean so speaking from my experience at um so it was there's a lot of flyering emailing um this and that and then again like we had a a dedicated staff uh like like inner team of like 15 people who would just like show up two hours early or so and just like use the painters tape um or chalk or whatever to just like outline everything um and then at noon everybody else would show up and we'd have the paint already poured into buckets and all this stuff and people would just really come um and what was fun is a lot of the time well yeah so a lot of the time we would have it planned out but then a lot of the time we would also let folks like decide what color we would go where um like if if a triangle was going to be 10 feet or 20 feet or this or that um so we could really scale the involvement of the community basically from picking up a paintbrush all the way down to helping design it um because like in those designs that both of us um showed especially like the first one on the red page there were like polka dots everywhere and you could like talk about how many polka dots you wanted to add or this or that or what color one of the streaks would be um so in terms of actually day of logistics again it could vary um depending on what um like the desired level of outcome of involvement would be um and then in terms of like before painting day would require just flyering and getting the word out um again we are on the lower burns park email chain um just using like modes of communication similar to that just to kind of blast um the the opportunity out through local newspapers flat like this and that you have different areas are you going to focus on one in particular like if you had a preference i'm not i'm assuming you're not going to have the three projects going all at one time yeah yeah i mean i think i think what would be super amazing is the first project that we proposed um that like the the like the lower part of our go damn that goes under that um broadway tunnel um that would yeah yeah it would it it would definitely be one at a time um with kind of a headquarters set up and again we have like the living color project is still ongoing and we have friends in the area so we could get like a a crew of dedicated individuals to come help us day off be kind of like overseers of the project but yeah it wouldn't we wouldn't be spread out throughout ann arbor painting all at once done you john you're new john i said uh jeff and aaron i think it's wonderful absolutely wonderful and piggyback a little bit on allison in terms of uh what i really like about the project is the synergy uh so the fact that you're incorporating folks in helping make the project helping design the project and to me that's unique and that's an art form in and of itself and as you are probably aware some neighborhoods have a little more power than others it's you're very fortunate to be in burns park i mean you know those those are the movers and shakers of this town so you can raise money kind of easily i would encourage you just like allison said to think about uh taking that synergy to the next step incorporating more and more neighborhoods and the uniqueness of the neighborhoods uh and and more individual groups like there's the women's artist group the and so if you could if you could get their buy-in um that it'll really um leverage the project and so to me uh the the design is very nice you know i i like you know geometric designs and um and it has a rich history and art history um um but it's it's the politics of the art that really draws me into it that you know your your your crowd sourcing ideas you're crowd-sourcing words and you're letting people participate and and own a little bit of it that to me brings it up a big notch and it certainly helps us and i think allison said that far more eloquently than i did but uh so kudos you know and and like craig said you've got the money most of the projects that come to us are great ideas but they really don't have the funding uh and i think what what what craig and and allison and and i think peggy and sophie touched on is uh the sustainability of it so the preparation of that wall the finish of that wall the maintenance that wall how often does it need to be touched up who's going to do that and where's the funding for that so i would encourage you to build into your project budget some maintenance and some documentation and it sounds like you really have the um the promotion uh so what we can do is help you get roadblocks out of your way but uh kudos kudos great project thank you sarah i also wanted to commend you guys beautiful work and beautiful spirit so really wonderful and i was just wondering if any of the funding does include a bit for marketing i think even taking out an ad in the ann arbor observer um you know those are relatively well priced ads um and something like that could be a great way to get the word out and um if you're familiar with the nextdoor app um that is a really great way i'm on the app in my own neighborhood here in ann arbor and it's a really great way for people within that immediate neighborhood to get together with you know community projects like this and that i believe would not necessarily be something that you would need to pay for um but if if any of that funding includes marketing yeah i think i think it totally it totally we we we've thought a lot about it and i think we it's an amazing thing to include um and that's a great idea about next door um i tried to get on that app when i was still in college living on dewey street um but now we're going to be here for a while i think it's a great idea to it's a great way to do it thank you for the idea travis thanks and we'll we're going to start like start sounding like a broken record here because i also want to just thank you and and i really appreciate everything and all the work was really great um actually hearing you talk about kind of your passion for like the bright colors and shapes also reminded me of my favorite parks and rec episode when tom falls in love with the with the with the shapes and the art um but but i uh i also just i i think this is really great i i'm still new enough to this that i'm not entirely sure kind of what next steps are in terms of process but if this were to move forward i also really like the idea of um kind of how you you want to engage with the community around this and and i could see this being something that um you know sarah brought up a good point about kind of making sure that you have some marketing built in but also really thinking about ways that you can leverage some of the free media that you might be able to get um i think just the fact that you want to engage the community and participate in that you might actually be able to get a story out of the observer rather than having to pay for it and and i think you know to the extent that we can be helpful in making some of those connections to the right reporters and things like that to kind of pitch an idea for a story to them um might be might be an avenue to get some folks aware and engaged as well and then i also just wanted to say that i know that both i and a number of my colleagues um have council newsletters and this is exactly the type of thing that we would love to be able to advertise as well you know really proactive ways for the opportunity to come together around something that that could be exciting and in community building and so um to the extent that we can be helpful as well i'm happy to to help make those connections to my colleagues and and make sure that they're aware so that it's something that they could advertise and and share as well craig i see your hand yes and travis did a beautiful job of the lead-in to next steps um the next steps would be to prepare a project proposal uh for the art commission to consider and in that you would have to include what areas you're interested in working in your your budgets how timelines staffing etc so that the art commission can look at it and weigh in and that application is on our website correct okay yes i believe it is vanilla would you be able to maybe send them that link to the application great what's up i see your hand okay yeah thank you uh very colorful and you're spiritual colorful the colors are colorful and your uh inclusiveness and diversity is very nice lovely um i just want you to also make sure that you include some liability insurance craig you're muted i'm trying to click on my new button uh that goes without saying as part of your project if we if it were to go forward there not only is liability insurance there is work area plans how you protect your work area what safety you're going to need but that gets into the finer details as it's going forward great sophie um i just wanted to ask if the pickle street mural company is your website if you have a website or how one would contact you if with any other ideas or suggestions or questions yeah yeah so we um have an email for the pickle street mural crop um it's called the street pickle gmail.com and we can um i don't know if um if um we need to share it with you but we can also tell you our um emails right now as well um would that be helpful okay um mine is um can i suggest that vanita i also i don't know that i have the um the presentation and i would love to have that as well if possible and so maybe you can head out along with contact information i sure can and jeff and aaron uh this is being recorded so if you want everyone to know your email you can say it now or you can just have the need to send it to us yeah okay yeah now i just see the flashing red dot up in the corner final comments david a couple things first of all i just want to make sure that we're all clear you're not asking you'll be paid for this at all correct correct so the funding will come from um the crowdsourcing that we've already done and um plan to do in the near future um and then craig some of the locations they were looking at i assume would need a public right-of-way permit would the city be able to waive those fees at all for something like this where they're basically making a contribution to the city and it's okay because i had i was formulating a response in my head i won't say that we can wave it but there may be alternate funding for the right-of-ways but permits the the biggest hurdle i think for them is going to be the the insurances for working in the right of way i think that go ahead i'm sorry i think that when uh after we see the proposal there will be an opportunity to meet with y'all and kind of go over what those other pieces might be yes there may also be some other uh funding that even we might be able to garner toward that sort of support for a project that comes to us so shovel ready and financially supported we do have access to some funds that we have recently been able to expand and so there are all sorts of little details that we can work out once we have the broader proposal in front of us one other thing i wanted to say is that as far as marketing goes we also have ways to get the word out through social media as well through the city if indeed this is a a partnership and so it wouldn't just be on you to necessarily get the marketing done in order to get community engagement i think that one space that you guys are narrowing in on is right across from a dte property um so they may be interested in supporting in some way cool yeah and we might be able to to create that opportunity for introduction as well so and the last thing i want to say is aaron so nice to see you a former uh arts engine uh micro grant recipient so that's true thank you anyway great to see you both of course um but just wanted to do a little shout out there to say yeah nice to see you nice to see that you're uh how you're expanding to support the community oh thank you thank you well thank you both for coming and feel free to reach out to us with any other follow-up questions as you're putting together that application um and you're welcome to stay and stick around and listen to the rest of our meeting although i don't know how inspiring or fun it will be um or you can get onto the rest of your evening i'm sure it'll be scintillating but uh the rest of your evening will probably also is as well yeah i think we're gonna take some time to hop on over and start uh looking up the the application yeah great we look forward thank you so so much for joining me thank you and hopefully we'll talk to you all soon all right so our other um public commentary uh is not happening tonight um i will be talking to jeff uh next week so i will come back and let you guys know if there's anything regarding that that needs further input if you needed wants to jump in yeah um could we let um glenn uh come on next and do a presentation now before we go all the way through the agenda through the group sessions well it's funny i i struggled with how to start this because this project uh is is maybe only about seven or ten days old it it just it just started a couple weeks ago with uh a quick discussion with venita and sarah and david um so i i do have a very short presentation uh to share i so crudely put it together today just in an effort to have some talking points so forgive me um it won't be nearly as colorful as aaron and julian's uh presentation but um as a as just a way of uh of means of an introduction to this to this new endeavor um veneta uh are you able to pull up uh some slides here well she's filling that up glenn can you tell everybody who maybe doesn't know you who you are and what you do allison that's my very first slide oh allison you get the two dollars for the lead-in my name is glenn wizorick i'm the engineer at the water plant and uh i have been working on city of ann arbor projects for about 17 years now um most of them uh for the water plant but they have extended to uh parks and rec and also on a couple instances um directly with the art commission um there were two projects in in particular uh can everybody see the slide here yes uh the two projects that i thought to to share with you today uh is on the left here the manchester elevated tank um some of you may be real familiar with that whole process but that was an extraordinary public engagement uh effort um receiving uh citywide votes on this i believe if i recall we we received uh almost 4 000 votes um on on this artwork and uh and and this is the end result it is a matter of fact it received the tank of the year award it's a national award um for this painting project and the second project that i was involved in was the canoe art project my scope was was uh not so artistic but rather it was uh designing and constructing uh the foundations for the artwork there so um that was uh that was still nevertheless uh an extremely interesting project so uh vanita next slide that brings us to um this this new uh possibility uh we are here with these two pictures here we are inside the water plant um this is near the the entrance to the to the um the front entrance of the plant in the conference room this is a two-story stairwell that leads the public um from the ground floor up to the second floor and we are undergoing um some fairly sizable renovations at the water plant right now and we're going to continue to do so over the next few years but right now they involve a lot of interior work and that kind of sparked some interest in what to do here with the stairwell uh you can see it's a very large blank slate basically without much interest and the fact that uh this stairwell plays an important role in our uh tours our open house tours of the water plant every year um in addition to the corridor for public staff up to uh public up to the uh the laboratory and the in the control room um this is a uh highly traveled area that will receive a lot of uh viewership so um again i think uh that that this uh kind of sparked some interest in maybe painting of a mural of some sort to really uh brighten up the space and play a part of our public engagement process um so we kind of incorporated on the tours uh vanita next slide really quickly this was just another ground floor view showing the two-story nature of the space next slide so obviously we have not discussed any sort of style or ideas but just for the sake of discussion um i wanted to share a few things that i was aware of along the these lines and in the smithsonian there's this fantastic uh artwork here's construction of a dam um incidentally it's it's so interesting to me because this is this is essentially the exact year that the water plant originally finished construction and and came into service um you know i'm just sharing here again possible ideas of of things that could end up in that space something of a of a you know municipal construction type nature venita next slide and similar to that i think we're all familiar with the mural and the detroit institute of arts um this is also of that same uh era in the early 1930s and uh drawing upon like the art deco features of our original water plant next slide and incidentally i was able to grab some pictures from the lansing board of water and light and they in fact i coincidentally ended up with murals along this line too showing infrastructure and and and and the construction process and the in the construction workers and you know essentially the history in the backbone of of how they got to to who they are now uh i think the next slide is just another view of some of that you can you can see it's quite a dramatic uh entry at the lansing board of water and light last slide uh is the point that i just wanted to make with this is you you know it can be it can be anything we we haven't started the process really just yet um you know it could be educational in nature where it's reflecting uh like our own watershed of the huron river um similar to like the artwork on the manchester elevated tank that was uh here on river water life there are ideas of maybe a mural uh tying into specific components of our water plant where it could be um discussion points on an educational tour because we do receive you know in different times we receive regular busload tours of students throughout southeastern michigan [Music] so the there's there's all sorts of ideas and i'm and i'm just sharing um just to just to let the the juices stir a little bit but um the engineer in me also thinks that maybe the stairwell we don't want to have a spot for too much reading you know we do you don't want people stopping and and uh doing anything dangerous on a stairwell but nevertheless uh this does present a great opportunity to really liven the space serve part of our public engagement strategy and uh and and also be um an educational tour in the in the whole process um veneta and craig uh if i say anything incorrect please let me know um i'm understanding that the budget for this is about uh 25 000 right now and uh um the details have not uh necessarily been hammered out yet um you know whether it's uh a call to art or or commissioning of a artist directly there's a lot to be hammered out still however one some of the input that i am receiving from plant staff though is that uh we do want some sort of control on some level about what goes in there just because we feel it's it's so critical to our public engagement strategy knowing that this is the exact path um for all of our public tours and and all of the uh school tours and the open house we envision uh using that as part of the story that we're telling and that leads to the upstairs where we're going to have further historical photographs of the construction of the water plant just really telling the whole story because the history the history is is is is quite impressive you know it's well documented way back from the early 30s and uh and much of that still exists today uh is is there is there anything else venita and craig that i should be adding at this point no i would just add a little bit to the history you say to the early 30s for the water plant but the water system itself goes further back than that to earlier days when it was a private water company prior i don't remember off the top of my head glenn but it was the turn of the 18th to the 19th century if i remember correctly when the water system was first formed so there's quite a bit of history there there is yes thank you that budget is craig and are you guys looking at having city staff handle the call process to contracting it out what do you as glenn said totally unformed as of now process he is correct when we say it's about eight days old please please please forgive me for not having all the details here no i don't as of early this week i was having discussions with bra with brian glenn's boss about financing and how we're going to swing it etc so none of those details are formed well i would say just preliminarily i think we're all on board to help support it move it forward it's really exciting um i think it has great potential that's why i go up go ahead john ah let me see if i'm on you no i'm not um i want to compliment you uh glenn on the manchester water tower i mean i've been on the commission for too long uh but uh that's the gold standard uh that uh that was done in-house by you your in-house and it was widely supported that you you you had all of the many of the submissions uh at the water plant uh that it was the outreach was absolutely incredible and the final product was awesome i don't know anyone that does not like that manchester water tower and you received or the company i think received a national award for doing it so absolutely wonderful i'm delighted to hear that you're interested in doing another one because as i recall when you were presenting that you really liked it again so um that let me just in the brainstorming the five day old project give you kind of my my in feedback uh and take it as it is i'm one of uh nine or ten what really attracts me is is the notion of celebrating workers um um you know manual workers workers that that get trade workers that that go to community colleges i mean that's a big thing right now that that there are a lot of folks that are kind of transitioning and and i think it's a perfect opportunity uh to do that to celebrate work in in much the way the riveras and all the other things do it but maybe do a modern twist so um that that really touched me when i heard what you were saying and when i was connected to those uh murals of workers so i would encourage you to explore that but again uh this is just the minor stage i'm absolutely tickled to know that you're going to take charge of this project because i know it's just going to be absolutely awesome so kudos oh my gosh john thank you those those are the kindest words i i'm so appreciative thank you very much well deserved i i will say i am equally excited about this as i am the elevated tank so if uh if some of these visions uh hold true we're gonna see great things uh i was just gonna give a little more background this came up on a zoom call that sarah and bonita and glenn and i were having a week or so ago about the project that's already approved for enhancement at the water plant that's still a ways off and glenn volunteered this as an idea that he thought would be really cool a day or two later venita emailed that we had money for it i thought she was volunteering to pay for it well thanks venita i might add that the manchester water tower as i recall craig you correct me this was one of the first volunteer the cip projects this is one of the first ones that came about after the uh the the new um uh uh uh charter was was was changed the ordinance was changed and and and you hit it out of the park so it ties it all all in uh if i can share i know i'm speaking out of turn here i i just wanted to share um piggybacking on john here my recollection is is we receive 600 public entries for the design of that and the evaluation team scored every single one of them it was such a tremendous uh um public uh involvement uh it was it was it was quite exciting so thank you the challenge on this project because it's at the art at the water plant it's in a secured facility so trying to pick something where people would see it while the stairwell you would think is a crazy place to bury art but it's the only place in the plant that is likely to be seen on a regular basis by any of the public craig that's absolutely true um in fact strangely enough that's probably one of them the one spots that is viewed by the most uh public here on our site sarah you had your hand up i just wanted to say anecdotally um that i uh grew up in ann arbor going to ann arbor public schools and i remember our field trip to the water treatment plant and uh you know i i think and i i still remember it to this day and these have you know long lasting effects so i'm so happy to see that this is approved and moving forward and i love the presentation you put together glenn those are great ideas for what that mural could be and certainly that focus on education i think is so important um so really happy to see this move forward thank you yeah i think we're all really excited um do we know what a time the timeline is for this project at all as far as like does it have to tell us as we said this project is eight days old well i didn't know if there was like a timeline that has to be done by or like we're trying to well and you're you probably got another year on renovations out there yet right our capital project exactly it has about uh about a year to go maybe slightly less uh so we're in that time frame however uh in if we're doing this project right the right way doing this with you you know without compromise if that pushes our project long then then so be it we'll finish our work and we'll keep this mural going and um and finish it the right way great i'm excited i always say glenn just let us know how we can help push it forward and um you know how you want us to be involved moving forward i think we're all in support i see deb's hand before we move on though it's just um this is a great project i think it the stairwell is a fantastic place to do it i've spent a lot of time in stairwell art and on the stairwell looking at art so this is great um and the the loft of the space is really nice as well what i was going to say is i don't know that um i know that it's been eight days which means that in 24 days or so you should really have it all set to go you know the planning phase is always about a quarter of it and so um but i did want to be a little more serious and say you know the fact that you've got the green light and the fact that there may be funds encumbered and the fact that you might be able to move forward on some of the planning aspects of it sooner rather than later might not be such a bad thing it would be a lot more time for public commentary it would allow more time for um you know work getting gathering excitement um making the call more broad things like that and so i don't know that i would wait the whole year before getting this rolling um i think i might want to strike a little earlier while resources excitement and that eight day push has really gotten things underway so um that would just be my only advice is not to put it off too long but really keep the interest rising and the put pieces in place and if you're done a little early and ready to go before the renovations are done so be it so the commission understands the timeline for this is not necessarily tied to the timelines for the architectural renovation they the project the architectural renovations is the parent of the funding but not driving the project anyone else have any last-minute questions or do you have any questions for us glenn uh i don't have any questions um however as the project evolves i'd be happy to continue updates great we love that all right thank you okay thank you um for those familiar faces it was all great to see you again and and for all the new faces um i i hope uh i hope this will all be a great experience for everybody thank you thanks glenn okay take care bye all right next on our agenda is old business which it looks like we don't have any and then new business which we don't think you skipped a minute oh minutes isn't on my agenda but we can do minutes um so minutes um we have two minutes to review and approve so the first one we'll look at is last meetings um the january minutes so do i have a motion to approve john a second deb great any discussion no all in favor aye any opposed great those minutes are approved um the other minutes we have to look at and approve are the um december that's that retreat that we do um and do i have a motion to john do i have a second deb thank you any discussion oh and i'm sorry if sarah would like to be the second on that i'm more than happy to uh okay sarah a second they yield the seconding so um david your hand went up for a discussion yeah on the third page of that there's a presentation discussion at the top of the first paragraph of that page and in particular down toward the bottom of that paragraph it says that a recent mural installment on the back exterior pot belly represents is a new art take on the convergence of university life i think either represents or is needs to come out of that before it gets posted great benita's doing a thumbs up she's gotta change that i i noticed on the fifth page um it's just a formatting thing the special projects group means it just needs to be a space and then it underlines so it's clear that the bullets underneath the special project group relate to that and i read it and i was like that's not the policy and governance but it's just a little formatting thing there any other discussion of the minutes um so i would assume those are fake our in-kind changes or and we can just move forward with approving the minutes with those small changes all in favor um as long as the the uh first and second person are you okay with moving forward with those small changes i'm seeing some thumbs up great all in favor any opposed great we've got minutes from our last two meetings um i it looks like i'm working off of a draft agenda so please correct me if i miss anything else the next thing on my agenda is old business nothing there and then i have new business which i have nothing okay and then we have report from staff i'll i'll jump in starting off with the allen creek berm project update um the construction on that the berm tunnel is essentially complete there's restoration work that needs to be done landscaping work in the spring the issue we have on that project is we are significantly over budget on the project and so currently there is not available funds for the mural at the end of on the wall not saying that it won't happen but it's not going to happen in this springtime the nature of the cost overruns are without saying too much there's probably some lawsuits involved and until those wind their way through we won't know fully what funding is left for that but that all being said that might be a site for these folks that presented earlier in the meeting to do one of their murals so and the space is is prepped for a mural correct it had it is what the treatment was left neutral uh they'll probably have to strip the sealer off the wall to put the mural on it but i don't think it has the full anti-graffiti coating on that stretch if i remember correctly the other piece of news on the allen creek berm opening a corporation has come forward and is interested in doing art at the intersection of the tunnel walkway in depot street and i have as of this morning when i was talking to their rep they would like to be on their next meetings agenda to talk about what they are thinking about and what possible treatments they would fully fund for that entrance way does it make sense for them to put together the formal application like we just told aaron and julian yeah we can ask them to do that it might just percolate and give them some ideas about what we might ask them about in that meeting and they might become more prepared or whatever when you see who it is they are a very well known large real estate investor in the area they hold they build projects and hold on to them they don't build them and flip them and they might be near the tunnel location if that gives you any clue greg you also have their their name in our minutes yeah i think you may have told us yeah it's first martin um but have they done i have has first martin done public art projects previously yeah that that the trestle is their art project they preserve the trestle and put a rail car up there okay they the issue for them will be the public engagement part but we will share the the application for them to use when they come back great okay did i see someone did someone have a hand sophie yeah i was just wondering whether it's possible legal or wise to put a sign up near either of these places that aren't funded for murals and things saying we would love to have a mural here if you want to contribute to this happening send money here wherever or is that um not done because a lot of the people going under those places probably think this really needs a mural and they might you know be willing to help it out generally the city has not gone out and sought funding i'm not saying we couldn't but that has been the past practice um we're not into the crowd funding etc the nearest we came to that was the jewett memorial chairs and we didn't do it an individual did it and it got vanitas shaking your head they're not in your head it got quite hairy john was there for that uh extravaganza i think don't put me there no ability to have a dedicated source or our place that people would donate to that would automatically go towards public art and that would be the area foundation well sort of i mean i think that and i think that having i think that there might be a both and for what sophie is suggesting that we should probably talk more of as a group is that certainly something to get people to uh look into more information about something is always a good thing and then talking about the possibilities of where funding might come from or how they can contribute either through uh you know spreading the word about it or something else but i do think that there should be a way for the um the public to engage back about the project if they want more information or if they might be interested in donating to the endowment those kinds of things so i think that there is a really good sort of pr element there that could lead to some funding toward public art in general and we could also then talk about how any donations that might go to the foundation for this might somehow be reworked into our annual uh interest take toward a project so for instance if you contributed to the endowment a certain amount that amount could then be used from our interest earnings up to a certain point against that project so i think we can do some shifting that would allow for some crowd sourcing that might not be quite as direct as money to money but that would generate interest in things that we already do have set up and make raise awareness that way uh john me dovetail and dab i think it's a great idea what sophie has brought up is that we should think about engaging not just opinions but also money from folks so that they can buy in to what we're doing uh these particular projects however i think come funded i mean the folks from burns park they're pretty confident they have the money and it it sounds like uh first martin does have the money uh so it may not be these projects to start with but i think sophie's idea is worth exploring as deb has mentioned maybe even something after a project if you like this you can actually help with the next one and this is how you help but i think that um that's a great idea that sophie has brought up and it should be explored we have some working group i'm sure that could do that oh i'm sure we can make a working group if we don't have one john i mean we only have 45 working groups so you know sure else it needs another one to be on yeah yeah there's the fundraising work group who should put this into their thinking caps and try to make something like this happen for sure yeah even just like a qr code somewhere nearby to as john says some of the more popular ones and uh like the the canoe one and things and uh you might get a few you know few pennies added good idea sophie thank you alison if i could be so bold to move on to the next one um the city flag project i have had conversations with uh mayor taylor we i i owe him the whereas i mean that therefore clauses of a resolution for council to use to direct uh or request the ann arbor public art commission to take on the project the project of a city flag i admit i got sidetracked the last three weeks with some family matters but we'll be back on track and i suspect travis you might want to sponsor that along with the mayor when it comes yeah i was just going to say i actually also spoke with the mayor this week about it and um similarly uh he he mentioned that he spoke with mr hubey and um was was hoping to to have a resolution that we could work on together and so um we anticipate that um likely to come sometime soon but i think he was also thinking uh that this would probably be a project for the spring so i don't think we're behind or anything like that so um so yeah we but we will certainly work on that and have something to bring to council so that we can provide some direction to this body i i it is direction but i think of it as cover for this body to go forth and do it okay have the um apec project folder update on here or at least on my draft agenda i think everybody's gotten a link already from jake on accessing that project folder shaking no okay um you should have an email from jake chase it's a microsoft account um if you don't have it i can certainly send it back out or ask that he forward that back out to you you probably may not have recognized what it was coming from jake chase and microsoft hopefully didn't get caught in a spam folder so this is what's going to give you access to that really cool shared folder that venita shared with us last meeting and there'll be individual folders for each of our working groups where you can upload files that you guys are sharing and working on together there's also going to be um other documents that are more like reference for you as far as meeting minutes and agendas and bylaws and all that kind of stuff also did i be looking for an email from someone called jake chase yes john did you get yours how did yours come through okay it was filtered uh through updates or something like that with okay gmail but uh it did not get spammed okay i guess if you don't if you look through your emails and you don't see it just let vanita know and she can um work with jake to get you that information yeah i can't i'm doesn't come up in search so i don't know c-h-a-s-e nothing there it seems like a resend might be best fanita yeah yeah it looks like sophie and david could use a recent anyone else need a resend raise your hand i have found it in my spam box oh you found it sophie yeah great so it looks like sarah might want to resend too bonita any other updates from bonita or craig no all right we'll move on to our reports from our work groups um and start with our business owners and developers work group nothing to report uh the design review board did not meet okay um cip working group okay so hopefully you got my email um with a couple pages of recommendations for you which i would hope i could put my finger on and i'm not right now so there were a few things on there that were a little that we might want to discuss the the main one being there are several big housing projects added to the the cip this year um and they've been a there's been a lot of public discussion about them using city land and um and obviously the tax millage that was just passed very recently so they've been added to the cip and we would love to have public art on them i have reached out to jennifer hall at the housing commission i have not gotten a response back so we haven't talked to her about these and i don't know you know what the possibility is of um using that millage money or what other sources there may be typically the tax credits that they get for public health or affordable housing barely pays for the project so they haven't had a lot of possibility in the past this one just has some new things about it so that's one that's that we're still trying to refine the other one is that i had put in there about this project that we just discussed at the water plant the stair painting and i don't know if that really needs to go in here because it's kind of already funded it's not really part of the enhancement process that's that last one that you see right there um that bonita just put up but there were a couple others that we thought were were worth putting in there for enhancement we've also been having a lot of discussions with people about either potential new projects or projects that were already approved for enhancement and how we can get involved in those so some of them are starting to to move forward not all of them by any means but a couple of them are starting to have a little bit of movement so we hope to see something happening maybe in the next year or two with another art project so david i know that includes one of the fire stations can you can you elaborate a little bit which ones are we are hoping are are likely to move forward within yeah we have there were a couple of fire station projects in the cip that we got approved a couple years ago and one of them it's the replacement of the fire station on huron parkway south of washington so they're tearing the existing one down and rebuilding it it's a pretty tight site but because of the odd shape of the site there will be some land available there's also a park right next door so it's possible i i would think maybe it'd be possible for the artwork to go in the park um instead of on the site if we just can't find a place uh we also in the part process of discussing that did some online looking in the the fire chief sent us some stuff about artwork that he'd seen and liked and there are a lot of cool examples of fire station or fire related artwork that have been done at fire stations around the country so there's a lot of cool models that we can work with but they're they are just in the process of signing up an agreement with the architect who'd be working on that so they don't even have the building design yet um you know they'll talk with them about whether it's possible to incorporate a place for art but it may be something that we need to kind of come in afterward and figure out how it can go because it's such a tight sight and a difficult program but this is the perfect time to be having those conversations you know with the architect involved you know potentially could go on an exterior wall or something you know so i'm excited that we're hitting the ground running at this point rather than coming in at the final moment like yeah and he was very supportive of doing something with it as well that was good david i would leave the stairwell project on your document uh so that anybody looking at it knows that that's one that has the commission support okay my only question is craig this is this is document is being prepared to go to city council for their approval um what if they look at it and say well we don't want that i would hope that we don't go there with that but i would rather fight that battle there at council than finding out that we're doing art without their knowledge i i don't expect that that's going to be an issue this time around i mean we haven't been opposed to art they've just been opposed to paying for and we've already got the money for this one yeah that's right john i know it's late i'll be very brief but i'd be remiss uh david comes around with these opportunities once a year this in my opinion is the single best opportunity to expand the public art collection of ann arbor what we are doing is that we are leveraging material that's already going into municipal construction and incorporating creative design public art um and this is huge it's actually in the ordinance uh and it's more than one line it goes through a it tasks us with discovering to uh to to counsel the council uh to advise the council on what projects have the greatest opportunity for public art david and his team spent two years identifying um um a way of doing that a process of doing that and how to do it and he's applied that to these cip projects uh and as allison has pointed out this is the best way to incorporate our actually within the building it's at the design process not sticking it on to the end so this is near and dear to my heart um this is i believe one of the most important things the art commission can do and it has the greatest opportunity to actually uh expand the art collection so i've i've done my little piece i will do it next year but uh kudos to david and the other thing that i think is really important is allison is now on that cip committee that's absolutely i think essential to get the chair of the art commission and you know i mean david knows the mechanics of this machine that he's invented and it you know i mean it comes out very well so if there is in fact opposition to council uh we council members that support our will say i know because they've done it before look this is exactly what we've asked the art commission to do this is what they're doing for us and this isn't approving a specific art piece this is just saying the project has potential enough to build a slot into it moving forward and if as craig pointed out the tunnel project ends up not having enough money that's what happens but at least we planned it into it so i'm sorry i've said enough thank you very much well and so today we're looking at these recommendations and david is are we going to approve them here so that they can move forward or what were we hoping um yeah i would like to approve them so that we can start seeing when they might go to council hopefully we'll have time to talk to jennifer hall before it goes to council and we'll have a better sense of what that piece of it can happen but it usually takes quite a while to get onto a council agenda with us i also want to throw in from john's discussion thank you need to mention that sarah fuller joined our committee this year our work group and has put in a lot of time on zoom calls with me so thank you for that as well forward sarah forward or onward onward as the mayor says so i guess i would make it a motion to approve those recommendations if anyone would like to second it second seconding any discussion great deb i think we should do it all right i'll approve all in favor okay any opposed great it's approved thank you thank you david yep craig and vanita let us know when that gets put onto city council's agenda travis that'll be a big one for you to want to push forward and you know touch base with us if you have any questions about these projects that can be really um not complicated i guess is the wrong word because it's like not described at all what the projects are in the cip but david has a good grasp on what these projects are if you want more information on what they potentially could be no i don't nobody does as good of a grasp as we can have on what these projects might be in the next 10 years or whatever most of them are still quite a ways off so yeah that'll never happen so if we want if we want that on the march first agenda we'd have to hear back um by february 16th in order to have it on that march agenda yeah um the next a deadline date for staff would be march the 3rd and it would go on the march 15th agenda so those are the the dates to try to hear back from jennifer yeah and and none of this is a commitment that each project that we recommend or even that gets approved will have art on it some may not work out but this is what we've been tasked to do by council so we have to submit something and they can decide where to go with it and but i i know that it's been said but i think it's worth being re-said and and maybe said again so i'm going to help here david maybe it's helpful these are projects that may or may not have art but could have no obligations far in the future no money being ascribed to it this in this moment am i am i doing okay so far david money is sort of a range a budget range is in the proposal it does get attached to it in the cip for whatever that's worth but not encumbered no so just just to be clear what this is it is it is a planning document of the first kind yes right do you have any other discussion around this item before we move on to our next working group thank you so much david and sarah um we will move on to the communication and art placement work group um we have not met so we will have an update for you next time uh same with fundraising same with the leadership forum this past month guys um nominating and membership i don't know who's on that one is that me too i don't think so since you're a chair right the hardest working commission in the city that's all i can say i i think i might be on that and uh that has been a working group we don't have a report i think we're full up for members anyways right and it's also to nominate a slate for leadership so what is done in the past is that this working group told everyone to find out how they feel about the existing leadership and who they think might be good leaders in the future and that this working group would use all of that and create a slate to present for uh that says if i do i have that am i is that the working group i'm talking about i think so knowledgeable yeah you're on there with jonah jonas on with you as well okay okay so it's just a matter of timing for when that that leadership piece turns over and i believe that's at the fiscal is it not um you know it's at the annual did we did we have a vote uh on uh on the chair uh what month is this well we february well we we should have had a vote in january i think so maybe we are a little bit uh behind um i will i will send out a survey and try to get everyone um and we can do that at our next meeting and and present a slate with um how many years have you been allison is this your third year coming up or have you already had the chair can only serve for three years i can be done at the end of this time i can be done at the end of this time at the end of this year yeah yeah let's just let her go for another year if i might recommend um uh veneta could you ascertain uh when our last uh leadership change occurred and yeah i thought those were part of the minutes for for december though there there are three folks coming up they may be in the minutes for december that december retreat i'll take a look at that instead that's for membership that's for replacements for council people or i mean commissioners correct yeah and it gives the yes and it's the end dates as well right right but what i want to go back to is when did we last when did we typically have our leadership votes when were uh my my sense of it was that it was later than january but if it was january then we are indeed behind okay i think it's in the ordinance whatever so i think if we can we can find that out vanita can find that out and um uh and and we'll just assume that allison this year would be her third year she hasn't already served and uh i can have a seance right now uh i think we can nail this down for the next meeting so okay do we get to do like putin mid video switcheroos and you can step down and then step back up again later or is it three years and that's it you're done well though i think i i think it's three consecutive but there were a lot of discussion with previous council with previous commissioners that we we wanted to uh set in place kind of a um a way of of training leaders so uh if everything goes well that mexico the vice chair would move into the best position for chair justice allison was my vice chair she became chair and so the whole idea of identifying folks that might be have potential for leadership is important and then this working group would reach out to those folks to see do they have any interest and i can tell you we reach out to david esau constantly and he constantly says no thank you but um so i'm sorry travis no you're fine but while we were talking here i did pull up the bylaws from the the website and it does say that the the term of each officer shall run to the date of the commission's regular meeting in january and something should have done in december yeah that was um so we definitely need to do it um as soon as we can and uh we just need to get those pieces in place so john do you need anything uh from any of us at this point or would you like our help with getting that reset up no i i think i have a copy of the survey it's like three questions you know tell us what you think of the existing leadership tell us whether you'd be interested tell us if you can recommend anyone else on the art commission that would be interested in the future so we assemble all of that and um and i think it might be what did you like best about uh the leadership i don't like we don't ask what david i i was just going to say is there any reason not to just vote on this right now yes no let's do it let's do it a lot of time but no no that's what i said no no you're gonna say no no we need to go through the process right i mean if this is an annual process we need to need to follow it even if we're late okay i'll do it and jonah i will tie him in we'll get it done because one of the things that concerns me and and this is something that why i said you know john if you want to you know chat with allison and i about this afterwards i mean while this is getting put together because you only have two people on the committee and maybe you could use a hand uh but the other piece of it is is that um since it's january and those terms are calendar wise they don't necessarily intersect with people's terms so we need to be cognizant of that as well i mean for instance my term is up in i believe may correct and so voting me in for any sort of three-year term is is something we need to probably look at a little more carefully well you'd only be voted in for one year but there's only half a year left but if you're not interested in being reappointed then uh well the thing is that you you can serve as vice chair and when you when it's vacated i think it says when it's vacated we can we can re-elect a vice chair but right that's correct but i think that that that having that all laid out is important before entering into that that commitment i love the way you're thinking about this deb i will put a draft together i i will share it with you and allison and you can give me feedback one thing i might suggest we do this evening if indeed we are currently rudderless by statute is that we could uh huzzah a temporary until such time as uh a temporary continuance of the current leadership until the next meeting or the time that we decide will be the vote we could do that if it made people feel better so moved you got that bonita the way that i phrased that it's very carefully worded resolution back to the recording thank you all right we have a second second any discussion hold on i i can't see everybody with the document up so no discussion okay uh so all in favor aye any opposed all right you're stuck with us for as long as it till the next vote at least my apologies not really being on top of this better you know i just want to say just for for the gather because you know i i really love you guys and all but the pandemic has really just thrown off our time frames in ways that i would never have expected to happen you know and it is not just here and it is amazing how the time soup has affected most of the other organizations i'm on uh my colleagues at the university it has been difficult keeping track of what is normally very routine so i just want to say that you know we we shouldn't beat ourselves up too much over this we just need to do what we need to do to get back on track yeah i would say vanita if possible would it be could you make note of like specific things that we should be voting on at certain meetings so like in december it sounds like we should be voting on leadership um and then in january we should be approving an annual plan you know those kinds of things that we have to have specific um votes on but could you make a note of that in some sort of document that you share with us in that folder so that we can um all of those things are already in the folder i have a feeling that what we should look at would be the annual retreat in december and pulling some of those things off of there and adding them to that site for all to access that'd be fine i just i just don't want to be charged with doing it and keeping track of making deadlines so if somebody else wants to work with me on that i'd be happy to do that work group should be doing it and i was remiss no no no dad thanks uh one of the the other things that has been done is that on some committees that i'm on where there is an annual thing is that the template that there are templates for each of those agendas and it just sits on the template and so when you pull up the december agenda it's like oh look there it is or when you get the project the project folder does have calendars so we would be able to put all of those things exactly on that calendar within the phone right and even even whatever it takes to just get it so that you don't even have to even look at the calendar the agenda template comes up for december and there it is so yeah no that would be great thank you [Music] moving on okay so we will look for something from john survey wise coming up for that group um policy and governance um in our last meeting we had talked about how the line item was moving forward um have we heard anything back about that bonita i'm sorry i didn't hear we had talked about in our last meeting that the line item that we were asking for potentially for funding had been dropped off at whatever office it was supposed to go to did you get anything back on that no no it did not go i i don't know what council agenda it was on we were due to have it in by february 1st i haven't been notified that it's been on agenda yet okay but it is it has gone in yes so it's out of our hands was that just an annual budget request so yeah whenever they did that and the budget is still being formed yeah it was the dedicated line item yes that's probably a may vote right yes okay um special projects let me um golden paintbrush is teetering on the brink of being ready to go in what a day or two if you need to the um we've been having discussions with the design department who've been finishing up designing all the uh nomination forms for the website and and the virtual flyer and things like that so um wasn't quite ready for this meeting but i think in the next couple of days it might be yeah i think robert's working on the um website is already except that he has the survey attached to the website and i think he's all set with that so he probably sophie will reach out to you or i sometime before the week is out i don't know that you're ready to push that live just yet you should probably have something else look at it first but yeah yeah he will he will share a preview of that first but i'm pretty sure when you say yes he's ready to click the button and i just had a question sophie because i looked at that again today i know we've been drafting doing drafts back and forth did we ever change the deadline submission for nominations or did we keep that as april could we move that to later i don't have that you know bonita i don't have it pulled up right here i was just worried that if we you know when we started this in the fall it looked like we had a lot of time for nominations and i just want to make sure we give ourselves enough time for nominations because i do feel like um like deb mentioned time kind of goes yeah yeah no well actually what what robert was saying was that it's better not to have an endlessly long nomination period because then it concentrates people's minds a bit more if they think oh it was sometime in the future and then they go oh when was that you know and then he said so he said keep it as it is but um i only thought about it today because we're i'm involved in an education project with the university of michigan art museum and i'd love to nominate this partner not i can't but i'd like someone to nominate it but i don't know if the project will be done by the end of april so since we incorporated education as part of our yeah i don't think it has to be i mean if you know that it is finishing okay then that's okay i think yeah right i'll go back i think you can nominate it completely part of it is we could nominate ourselves artists could announce so you could nominate the project okay my understanding i i also just wanted sofia as that becomes available in the next couple of days i know that i mentioned this before but as soon as you can let me know as well and i'll make sure that all of my colleagues are aware and so that we can help spread the word as well and post to our social media and share in our newsletters that folks are interested in helping with that thank you does the timeline allow for if you don't get as many submissions as as you think are enough does it allow you to potentially extend the deadline if you want to um i don't think anybody will come and smack our hand if we do but uh i would rather not even if there aren't a huge number i think it would be better to start with not that many nominations for the first year and build up from there because otherwise people get to assume you're going to extend it you know what i mean so in this one i guess my question was more not about the number or if you just didn't get any quality nominations or something there's that potential for not sure if there's a requirement that we give all of the all of the you know awards out i can't remember whether it's required that we do or not i don't think it was it was just up to a certain number so if one we get one okay all right any other questions or anything related to the special projects um the next group i just want i'm sorry else and i just want to say hooray a couple of days it's going to get launched i just want to say great work good job hooray come on sophie oh y'all take my feet to the fire there yeah really near the fire anyway uh and then we have the youth outreach group work group yeah actually jonah and i we had an email conversation and we were going to meet soon to kind of talk about that great um i i was in a meeting this week with um a gentleman his name is trevor stone he's been hired by the neutral zone as their artist in residency and he's really interested in involving some young people and painting a mural so i thought that he might be a great connection to our pickle street mural company so anyway we'll work on that and jonah and i are going to talk soon he's on the side right riverside gallery in the past yeah i wasn't familiar with him but when i brought him up at my art meeting today everyone knew him do you know him sophie well he used to be at riverside oh okay okay he's got a lot of energy you know when you come on a new job you got a lot of energy and tons of ideas so good guy yeah i think mary thief is had that job for a while didn't she i think she did yeah all right well before we adjourn are there any um updates or things that anyone would like to share for the greater good sarah um this is information i actually just got yesterday that i thought might be good to pass on to the business development group and i my apologies because i had forgotten who was on it so i would have said this via email but just wanted to give a quick uh shout out um my day job at motowee i received an email from uh someone who works at kla which is a new company that is going to be building a big headquarters here in ann arbor um this is by woodridge avenue near the u of m botanical gardens they reached out because they'd like to do a make a tile workshop with us uh for their employees to create a wall of uh employee artwork tile artwork um and it just made me think if they're thinking in that along those veins um and this is a huge campus that they will be constructing um it might be worth uh reaching out and seeing if there can be any collaboration uh in terms of other artworks they might want to incorporate in that campus um i can you know who is on the the work the business development work group just so i can john and david john and john all right so i will send you um a link uh just so you can see the campus it's very contemporary um really interesting looking and uh could be a good connection thank you um i have an announcement which is that the formerly ann arbor women artists as a few months couple of months ago became huron river art collective and has been working its little cotton socks off to get a new website up with a new name which hopefully next week will be up and running and so look out for that here on river art collective it's got all new graphics all new mission trying to be bigger and more inclusive and more exciting and more diverse and all that it should be good and i'm on the board of that which is too many things but there we are great i just wanted to say that many of you are probably aware of the university of michigan president's arts initiative that he implemented as a three-year project about a year ago the pandemic sort of delayed that a little bit but they have um recently posted for a managing director position for that arts initiative at the university of michigan and i just wanted to sort of say that out loud to the viewing audience and to each of you all to just have a look at that and if you are yourselves perhaps interested or know someone that might be interested or good for that position um please inform them of that opening right well if there are no more announcements uh is there a motion to adjourn do i have to do that emotion john second all in favor hi hi all right good work everyone thank you have a good night thank you bye you

oh there's two it just doesn't just on my phone that's all hello hi harry thank you for all your help harry oh you're welcome that's me that's a rarity rosie you're all set to start great uh good evening everyone today is wednesday february 3rd 2021 and i call the special meeting of the board of education to order this is steve dunn for selectmen and i call the board of selectmen to order glenn rooney calling the board of finance to order okay uh in accordance with executive order 7b suspending sections 1-206-1-225-1-226 of the connecticut general statutes the public will not be able to attend this meeting in person but will have the ability to view or listen to the meeting in real time by way of the brookfield board of education youtube channel the dial-in information if you'd like to listen uh from your phone is area code seven 301 five eight five nine two or area code nine two nine two zero five six zero nine nine and the meeting id is nine nine four zero two four seven six five two nine okay so let's stand for the pledge i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice okay we have all of our board of ed members present um so we can uh go ahead and um eric if you want to pull up the presentation we can just get right into it all right and actually you can just go yep perfect uh so a couple years ago the board and the entire administrative team for each school constructed the portrait of a graduate which is a short but all-encompassing list of competencies that we strive to have every graduate achieve during their time in brookfield this has become the focus of everything we do including perhaps most importantly construction of this budget what you'll see in this adopted budget is a continuation of systems and tools that we know have demonstrated work for our students as well as investments planned over the span of years and those strategically drive students towards becoming critical and creative thinkers communicators collaborators and change makers next slide please did harry get kicked out of the meeting i see him i just got a message that popped up harry i'll be back on in a minute okay all right so as many of you uh know that our budget cycle really begins in october of the school year prior to the year that we're planning for which not only makes this an extremely time consuming process but one that requires a lot of expertise in all of the areas and facets of education to anticipate these large expenses so far in advance and it's also a process that evolves over time and we'll continue to do so until we bring this hopefully to referendum later this year the superintendent's proposal is presented to the board of the brookfield board of ed far earlier than in most towns in connecticut it was presented at our first december meeting this school year and what that has allowed us to do as a board was ask questions over the course of four regular meetings a special meeting a budget hearing and ultimately what arose was pages of questions all of which have been provided to you but it's also allowed the finance committee to meet several times and we actually met weekly from about mid-december through the middle of january and delve into every single item of this budget and understand how each figure was calculated from the individual department level upward this was done alongside eileen from the board of finance who joined us as well as our town controller miss marion uh this is an iterative process that continues today so we present this budget estimate to you all tonight with the understanding that adjustments may still be ahead of us any of those estimates that are still awaiting confirmation have been noted and they're being watched and adjustments in either direction will be communicated at your upcoming regular meetings next slide please so our goals have remained the same but given the context of the current environment and how this pandemic has impacted education our goals are more challenging to reach of course we must provide the necessary resources to meet the needs of all of our students and those needs have grown so you'll see many new positions many of which were needed this current year but were not able to be accomplished given our budgetary issues with enrollment in special education the specific needs those positions would have addressed remain today while this pandemic has increased their urgency so you'll see enhancements to programming for regular education students we don't have the increased enrollment issues that we did last year but we do make adjustments in both directions so to maintain class sizes within board guidelines we plan to reduce one fourth grade section and reallocate that teacher to second grade to provide for a rigorous and relevant curriculum using best practices in instruction assessment and learning you'll see classroom library books and professional development added to this budget the need to provide the technology infrastructure that effectively supports student success in a digital learning environment has never been more validated than it has this past year so you'll see investments to enhance our internet coverage and complete the basic technology upgrades at the high school lastly although challenges will always continue to present themselves we're committed to maintaining and continuing to enhance programs while being responsive to changing needs so you will see investments here that have been long requested by students and that align with our overarching goals of providing more equity as well as educational experiences that will prepare our students for college and career next slide please unlike last year we are not anticipating any major shift in special education or enrollment so what drives the increase in this budget is a bit more straightforward in the upcoming slides i'll detail the composition of each of these main areas and we're looking at contractual and inflationary expenses to be the main driver but the decreases in revenue are also notable lastly our strategic investments are certainly contributing to the growth in this budget but we can further discuss these and classify them into those that meet student needs and those that enhance programming next slide please we say this every year but the cost of personnel mainly teachers is the largest part of this or any budget however the year to year growth in salaries as you can see was rather ordinary again these are only the currently contracted positions so it doesn't include any of the positions that will be added as an investment what we will see as the largest single contributing factor to this growth is health insurance which is increasing nearly 11 and a loan contributes 1.3.34 to the total adopted budget increase all other expenses though affected by inflation and uh contractual increases net out to having no increasing impact on the budget in actuality the inflationary parts um of all the other expenses are actually decreasing the budget by 0.02 next slide so i wanted to touch base on the impact of the decrease in revenue that we'll have on this budget overall we expect about 180 000 less or 17 than we received this current school year from recurring revenue sources mainly the special education excess cost grant the primary reason for this is a decrease in expenditures for out of district special ed transportation so in their continual efforts to not only monitor but problem solve and effectively manage this large and extremely complex part of the budget uh ken post ginawagonic and their team have all worked to keep the overall cost of special education relatively flat despite increases in various line items one of the ways they've accomplished this is by consolidating bus runs this is not something that's done once it's done continually annually and its effects are not always consistently fruitful because of course it depends on the individual needs of students but it has reduced the out-of-district spend in this particular budget by about two hundred thousand uh this means it will receive less in the excess cost grant money but it's saving the district more than if we didn't consolidate the bus runs and received more grant funding we're also receiving less from the universal service fund or e-rate as well as the health services grant not because our overall expenses have decreased but our eligible expenses decrease so together the decreases in the revenue is noteworthy next slide so we can categorize our investments into those that meet current student need and those that enhance our programming but i thought it was more valuable to prevent to present them to you like this in a way that highlights the investments that we needed to make in this current school year but ultimately couldn't accomplish so you'll recall last year we had some significant special education obligations to me coupled with some increasing enrollment at center school and those factors limited our ability to address these in other areas but a lot of what you'll see on this slide continues to be a need so for the past several years we've recognized some efficiencies in hiring part-time ell tutors instead of another full-time position the problem has been that after investing a lot of time and resources into training these folks they tend to leave our district for full-time teaching positions elsewhere resulting in a higher than ideal turnover rate and a great deal of human resource energy we would like to undo this cycle build a team that can have some longevity and consistency and so we're again aiming to hire a full-time tesol teacher for the district we're also looking again to fund one full-time math interventionist at the high school to help those students who are still needing support in math which will give them the ability to access curricula in math and technology courses that will better prepare them for college and career in addition to that we're still looking to fund a part-time math tutor for center school which would better help us meet the needs of the students there especially after this year we're anticipating this in particular to be of high value to those students again we're hoping to be able to fund a stipend for a girls cross-country coach to properly supervise and train the nearly 70 students that currently are participating with one coach and lastly we're aiming to complete the technology upgrades at the high school with the last 15 classroom district wide to receive the presentation stations these along with some pd were actually items that were budgeted for for this current year but those funds had to be relocated in order to address other urgent technology software needs largely related to the pandemic next slide so here we have additional investments that will either help tackle newly recognized needs or will enhance our programming the first one being to address the large caseload at the high school and for that we will need to fund a .5 speech and language teacher next it's been a long time goal to offer a summer school program for regular education students but it's never been more justified than to implement then a year in years closely following ones like this and i'm sure doctors brill and ruby can provide answers to any questions you might have about the details of this program but the cost that you see here is not the full cost of the program this is partially being funded through multiple grants for wisconsin but to fully cover the program to any students in grades one through eight that needs it we'll need to complete the funding we always talk about the importance of classroom libraries our consistent need to grow them and their offerings so we're planning to invest in this area particularly with books that make our classroom libraries more well-rounded speak to a wider range of experiences and are written by diverse authors related to that is an investment in professional development specifically to address equity and inclusion and as part of enabling our very popular equity and inclusion subcommittee's work but also professional development involving technology integration and trauma-informed instruction because we have so many new devices in district we plan to upgrade our internet speed this will increase accessibility as well as support our efforts in becoming a one-to-one district next at the high school there is many stem course offerings in the program of studies that students consistently request to take but unfortunately we don't have the staff to actually run many of them so to address this and to build our stem programming there we plan to hire one additional full-time technology teacher to teach courses like architecture and design 2 advanced video production computer-aided drafting 2 and robotics there's also long-standing requests at the middle school where students have asked for opportunities to engage more in the arts and leadership organizations specifically a wms art club as well as an allies of diversity club so we intend to fully uh fund stipends for teachers to help run those clubs lastly several students have requested some for multiple years in a row now the addition of a girls gymnastics team and a boys volleyball team at the high school the level of interest and the commitment from these students and their teammates was clear and it would also mean that bhs would offer the full complement of ciaac sports so we are planning to fund both of those teams the cost here includes coaches officials transportation and space rental where applicable for both teams next slide as you can see the enrollment figures here are swinging swinging a little bit particularly at center school which might be expected this year going into next those numbers have a lot to do with the pandemic a small number of parents choosing to homeschool but many parents are holding off how to hold it off waiting a year to register their kindergartners so as you can see we're projecting those numbers to return to some stability these figures are based on october 1 enrollment data so you'll see outplaced we have 30 students we're projecting 32 students out place next year and that's not necessarily two new students if you'll remember students come students go services change so overall the net number is just one of the statistics that's constantly monitored and reported to the board via the finance subcommittee and subsequently the board of finance and in the bottom right corner you'll see data for our english language learners currently we have 89 students which is down 26 from last year we are still successfully exiting a good number of students allowing them to fully access the curriculum without assistance alongside the mainstream student population lastly the number of students receiving free and reduced lunch is relatively stable and again this is just a snapshot so these numbers do fluctuate throughout the year but this gives you an idea next slide here we have our current class size averages as well as the projections for next year as you can see we've worked hard to keep this budget goal in focus over the years all the sections are within the boe established range everything you see in red was above that range and as i mentioned earlier we do adjust staffing in both directions and next year some adjustments will be made to move a fourth grade teacher to second grade and the class size averages here do factor in that adjustment next slide okay so that's all i have for you guys in terms of our operational budget i don't i in previous years we've typically stopped here and sort of had discussion before talking about capital but that's up to you guys rosa i have a couple if i can i just a couple of very quick and just kind of really uh should be short short term here um the cross country girls um 70 girls is that at the high school alone or is that a combination of high school in wisconsin what does that encompass that 70 so that's just at the middle school so there are 70 girls at the middle school 70s students not just girls but right now there's no boys or girls teams there's just one coach sort of supervising okay okay so it's 77 okay yeah 70 students okay um the uh let's see girls gymnastics do we have a boys gymnastics at the high school we don't okay and uh one about the tessel teacher and again i know none of the details i'm just asking this question i i am understanding that the uh the uh people that we're using now they come and go pretty quickly because they're taking full-time positions um but what i'm seeing with the numbers is that we are going to be more than doubling the annual cost the first year to go to a full-time person and each year we're going to get we're going to have a further separation because that salary and benefits are going to continue to go up so that's that's just a concern that i have just um i'm not saying no to that it just sounds like it's going to be over the next 10 years a considerable amount of more money than we're spending now and again i don't have the details so there may be good reason why we need to do this but that's just one of my questions yeah i mean i'm sure you know dr uh barrel and dr ruby can can speak to that as well um it's just you know what you don't see is the the huge time and human resource energy and funding actually that goes into training these people and getting them on boarded and for them to only stay for what amounts to be a temporary amount of time um is not programmatically what we would like okay so then that that would reduce the difference there in in in the annual you know in what we're paying now and what we would pay for a uh for a uh salaried teacher um that difference is actually going to be much smaller because of the time it takes and the money to train the people and then they're leaving so that does give me some justification there thank you it's stunning harry the diversity of uh languages and family situations that we're getting i mean we've talked about it a lot of times in the board of ed meetings but a lot of kids whose isn't aren't speaking english as their home language at home right and we're doing a good job patching together what we have and uh but with 90 some odd kids it's been over a hundred at times it's a lot of kids for uh one teacher and two uh tutors to handle right okay thank you think about that i asked one question i know last year we had iterations of the budget even after it was submitted to me as you updated uh new information uh are you going to continue to do that and do you have any updates now that you can share with us yes we will definitely continue to do that so what we're planning on doing is we do have and it should be in your budget binder there's a list of potential estimates that are awaiting some confirmation those might take all the way till june but my plan is at each uh board of finance meeting um you know we can report any updates on those to you in either direction so steve what was steve what we did was we went through the budget with mr post as we were going through our detailed inspection and we wrote down every item that was based on an estimate instead of a quote um and when you look at the list that's in the budget book there's only one that's a significant risk one way or the other and that's the same thing the town will be seeing which is the health benefits because that those final numbers don't come in until like march yeah we have the same problem so both the town and the schools have the same issue around that and it's really wild this year because not only are the rates going up but the insurance providers are restructuring their rates so that fairfield county is bearing a higher rate than the rest of the state and that's causing this 11 percent increase we're in the same boat bob yeah i agree but i think that's when i looked at the list that's the only one i saw any significant risk and mr post felt the same yeah and we've actually found out a couple of new things in the last couple of days that i was going to bring to the finance committee on monday the um and the dollars are small right now but the uh our uh the disability and life insurance excuse me are going to be staying flat and i had estimated a three percent increase so that's about 4 500 total and then we just found out today we got a renewal rates for our workers comp and property liability insurance which was going to save us about fourteen thousand dollars i know marcia had a question with the insurance company about the distribution between the board of ed and the um and the town so hopefully we'll get that clarified before monday night and i can give you some concrete numbers right right i would say to more also on the revenue side i know that we're we're continuing to get grants for uh covet 19 and other things uh any any updates there yeah steve actually we had um uh just this past friday and we shared it with marsha in the finance committee at this point on ken and myself and dr ruby and eric actually our technology director i've had some conversation about this we received the sr2 um number the brookfield will be receiving 328 000 uh to be spent by september 2023 there's very specific rules and guidelines that go along with that uh some of the areas that we can take a look at offsetting and remember these are supplemental funds not funds to supplant things like summer school work with our english language learners tutoring for students parent education and parent engagement things we do already some of the things like parent university and those kinds of things ppe hvac in terms of facilities and all shows also some of the ideas we've talked about in terms of trying and working toward advancing the one-to-one opportunities and specifically with the digital divide technology professional learning for our staff and teachers so there's a lot of areas that we can work in which is pretty exciting we have to conduct a needs assessment as part of the grant requirement as well as develop a plan for a submission as an application so there's a lot that's going to go with this we don't have all the details yet as a matter of fact ken and i just attended a webinar uh yesterday afternoon and um the team will be getting together shortly to start working on what those priorities uh will be so why thank you it's a possibility that grant might be able to offset some of the operating costs of this year on a one-time basis so some of the things i mentioned you know uh summer school um professional learning and technology in the technology area there probably are some significant areas that uh could offset and again that becomes a strategic conversation among all of us of how we might want to handle that right we will certainly go through vetted make sure what you can cover what you can't cover and then you'll come back to us okay absolutely so um dan divorce i have a quick question but before i wanna before that i wanted to say thank you for um providing not only the budget but the the uh very comprehensive list of questions particularly the where there are estimates and where there are um actual quotes that was so helpful in going through this so thank you very much the level of transparency is wonderful so i appreciate that my only question is really one i think of budget presentation and geography more than the cost and that has to do with how the the cost grant reduction of about 180 uh drives almost the entire decrease in revenue which impacts the budget but then you said in your presentation rosa that there's an offset that actually makes that a net positive so i'm just wondering where that net positive shows up in in the presentation so that i can i can kind of factor that in do you mean the the decrease in out-of-district special ed transportation yeah yeah in in what line item and where does it get rolled up into that presentation is it in the negative kind of point two percent so you know that line that was all other that was kind of flat that was some growth inflationary growth and some items offset by the savings on that item okay um and and when you go look at the detail budget but go focus directly on out of district transportation it's a pretty sizable decrease i mean i can look that number up if you want yeah it's um 286 000 looks like okay so while you know when you just look at revenue um there is a decrease but when you look at it kind of holistically there's either a zero to a to a slight positive when you factor into the savings from that right okay now one of the one of the things we did look at is a holistic view of what all special education costs we're doing year on year if you'd like i could send that over to you that'd be great bob thank you okay that's all i have can i ask one more question uh have we done uh i know we had talked about enrollment went up a little bit where do we see that going in the future is that going to continue to rise yes last year we had enrollment increases at center school right yeah so we have so the current first graders first grade class is fairly big um they're obviously going to be in at huckleberry next year um so that's why that reallocation of a teacher uh is there and then currently uh steve we're down a bit from projection in kindergarten as all of us could imagine because of the pandemic a number of parents are electing to keep their children out or send them to a private facility or whatever the case may be um mrs diamond uh and her team are really watching principal diamond are watching this very closely and um talking with those parents who aren't registered don't have their children registered for kindergarten right now with um trying to understand their plans and what they're thinking and so forth and so we've we've looked at that holistically and and we believe we have centers will staff properly in the budget uh for for any swings with kindergarten you know in first grade and how that might work out okay thank you that that addresses my concern directly are we going to be doing i know we did this study with was it maloney mcgroom will we be doing that again in the future and when will we do that we don't have it in the budget for the coming year but one of the plans we have going forward for the following year is to do an update study okay thank you john i have one one question on you were just talking about huckleberry in the need of a teacher i know uh when i was on the board you were able to um you were able to reallocate a teacher from a different school because of um reductions and i didn't know if that was something that you were going to consider if it's possible to maybe fill that needed position at huckleberry from from another you know area in our district if if that's possible well the first thing is we we look at it net teaching positions and sections so it doesn't necessarily mean someone would come from center or it's the exact because in the in this budget there's one less uh next year's budget one less fourth grade section so that section gets of an fte for a teacher gets allocated to the second grade so that's why it's a that's off the bottom so so there's not a net plus in huckleberry it's a plus and minus between second and fourth grade okay all right good thank you that's um related to the binder um a couple points but they're all kind of related um there's items like the presentation stations it seemed like since it's last year it seems like it's kind of a non-recurring item now do you have any other items like that that could potentially be considered to be moved out of the operating budget and into the capital um i know you have a large ask for chromebooks as well but that seems to be more recurring but are you kind of at this point because of kovid asking for more than any a more than usual amount that perhaps we can take a portion of that and consider that capital yeah so um the presentation stations uh would be something that potentially is is not a recurring expense so that's the potential shift that could happen the only other thing you know i think that um you know may not be a recurring expense and mr belanda can speak to this as well is the there's a swipe system uh that i mentioned going into the the high school the software for that is going to be a recurring expense but i believe in the first year there is an initial hardware um expense as well is that correct yeah that's correct it's initial the initial hardware is purchasing of um computers and software the initial piece and then it's a recurring license and uploading um you know renewing renewal of licenses so it connects to powerschool and things like that there's a there's a bigger upfront cost because it's mostly hardware purchasing of carts and things like that so that is one of the ones that would only be an initial and then would be a much smaller recurring cost year to year how much is that those might be eligible to just go into capital right allocate them over to capital if that sounds reasonable that's possible it's it's not a huge expense it's i think it's 9 800 for the for the swipe system um the presentation stations also not a not a huge expense i don't think it's going to impact the budget in any uh in any sort of significant way but it's certainly you know something that we can discuss if you know if that helps yeah so um i think about capital from uh you know what are you trying to accomplish in it ricky and you know the presentation stations i actually think could be a capital item but it has been a recurring thing we've do it we've been doing over like multiple years as we've been using the technology that's available this last year we didn't so it looks like a bubble but the uh but we didn't have anybody really in the you know to use it on so we actually were doing some software stuff instead this year um so that one's a decision i do think this uh this 9 800.

problem okay um we have glenn i think everybody knows you um but glenn is with frye architect he's doing a design for us he's worked with the district for a long time and um we have a few things i know that d'antoni has a seven o'clock meeting as well so if we can get started right away on the first project we want to talk about joe if it's okay is osborne is that all right yeah yeah please go ahead whatever if you're gonna switch up the order go ahead oh okay um go ahead uh antonio sure um as um by the way it's been a while since we spoke and uh i'm glad we pulled together because uh there's a lot that's been going on and this is a good uh segue into um you know kind of bring you guys up to speed on where we are but in addition to that um there's going to be a considerable amount of work that we are going to try to accomplish with sal and his staff pertaining to putting together uh educational specifications uh for um one of the new schools that we're looking at pulling together which is the danbury career academy and um it's it's um i just think with this cover we used to get together at least every six months uh if not sooner uh but we haven't really done that so i want to uh i want to be able to uh just bring you up to speed real quick um i know that um glenn uh has um a couple of presentation uh slides that he's gonna share with you but what i wanted to do uh uh and i'm hoping everybody's there because uh everybody went blank is everybody there yes okay good thank you i just the whole screen went blank um we wanted to talk about osborne as you know this was one of the primary uh focus for us uh that came out of much studying the enrollment projections uh predominantly the uh the decay to five projections and one of the things that uh we came up with and we moved and secured the funds for was the ellsworth avenue annex which has now really been uh called the ellsworth avenue edition uh that's what the state would like us to call it so uh just to give you some very quick history uh the uh actual ellsworth avenue school uh was designed for 380 students believe it or not we found a very convenient way to put 522 kids in that school um amazing um amazing how we're able to educate them in that tight of a space but the kids are there and um the population on a k-5 for ellsworth avenue is going to be pushing into 634 in the year 24-25 so that is the reason why we are uh putting a good size edition on to ellsworth and uh we're doing a project that we're going to be speaking to you about tonight so very quickly uh we are looking at adding a total of three pre-k classrooms uh and four kindergarten classrooms uh in addition to that uh we are going to provide a substantial amount of space for the ellsworth avenue school administrative staff which has really been sort of relocated or pushed into other offices because a lot of their spaces is actually being used for educational needs right now so um that is sort of a very broad uh um highlight of uh what this project is about uh the project antonio that's going to be the registration center too right yes a small piece of this project will be uh the actual registration center for the district and that is actually been defined as a separate project with the state of uh grants folks but it is one project for us so yes so that's important to bring up and glenn will uh glenn will actually show that piece of the uh of that of that project in a few minutes so uh just to speak in round numbers uh the project is around 11 million dollars for the school piece and about 500 dollars for the board of education uh registration overall the project is anticipated to be about 11.5 million dollars and uh that does include uh some very uncertain bidding environment uh that we're starting to see because of covet issues so it is a conservative number we hope that the number is going to be much better at bid time but right now uh not everybody um not a lot of people are have bid out work and we don't know where the square foot numbers are going to land so we have taken a conservative approach uh to estimate this job and that's what you're seeing is an 11.5 million dollar uh project very quickly i'm going to talk about a schedule and then we're going to get glenn to show us some of his uh some of his work so schedule wise and we have been working on this project for the last six months going and going and going we've been meeting with the staff at ellsworth avenue school we've been meeting with sal's group uh we worked hard and worked together and putting educational specs uh that was part of our original application which the entire board of education blessed uh i'm going back now uh oh dean was it six months ago yeah um so um it may seem that we haven't gotten together but we've been plugging along on this project the beauty of it is if everything goes well and the state continues to be able to communicate and meet with us via zoom we hope to actually have our final state review by march 2nd uh which is right around the corner uh so what we're going to do is in the next week or so we're going to finalize our plans we're going to meet with the school building committee um next week and then we're going to come in front of the entire board to have you bless the final estimate and the final plans and specifications they're not going to change at all based on what you are seeing tonight um so this is actually a good preamp uh for you folks to see some of that work that we're going to be discussing in about a week so our big date is around april uh probably mid april and we hope to immediately go out into construction with a contract to be issued in june and our goal is to be fully ready and ready for occupancy august the 20 22 so it is a very fast uh moving project and we should be able to hit those timelines pretty well we have a great record of of uh uh sort of uh always meeting our budgets and meeting our deadlines uh the unknown here is the covet issue which uh we just haven't seen what the impact of that can be uh but we're ready to work through it knowing that there may be some mitigating issues that we'll have to deal with so glenn do you want to uh uh do a presentation of the uh of the uh what this edition looks like sure okay thank you kevin um so to to start off uh with we have the the two plans the lower level plan lower on the sheet is your first floor just to orient you osborne street is to the left and the existing school is to the to the right the upper level as antonio has said we have the uh administrative offices and the the hatched area is the areas that are uh designated for the board of ed the registration testing uh and and so forth for the second floor so uh uh there is an elevator that that will bring you up and there's two brand new stairs that make the uh second floor code compliant uh we'll have uh um enough uh um bathrooms up there for for staff there's also a conference room a break room and then we have mechanical and some storage space along with the offices uh for the individuals individual staff if we can go downstairs real quick so here we have our our classrooms the three pre-k or along the uh the the bottom edge of there and the four kindergartner along the along the top each classroom will have the cubbies for the for the students um they will have individual toilet rooms and the pre-k will have two toilets to meet their that code requirement um we have uh again the elevator and if you can go down scan down a little bit towards the entry you'll see this is the the new entry to this area comes off of that parking lot that's already there um into a secure uh uh area and uh you will have to be buzzed in by the security staff that will be in that office once you're in that court or you you can go down to the elevator and go upstairs or you can go down that corridor into the individual classrooms the doors uh to uh to get you into that classroom will be on access control so uh there's limited access uh for other uh people that are coming in to go upstairs the corridor that goes to the to the right will lead you back to the main school and it's connecting right in the cafeteria um that's an existing door opening that's in the cafeteria so the way it works right now is the students that may be in that cafeteria may be dismissed through that those doors to the playground or it's just a an emergency egress unit but in this case you're going to come through that cafeteria down the corridor and into the uh annex if you will or you can go directly out into the new playscape area there's uh no real uh changes inside the existing ellsworth um physical wall changes at all so we're just making the connections for our utilities and services technology those kinds of things so we can tie everything together to the existing school if we go to the next slide glenn if i could just um uh if i could just let everybody know that um this um what is a separate building now will actually function as a uh as really one school what i mean by that is the fire alarm system will all be integrated the uh telephone system the communication system will all be integrated um so it is uh it is really an addition uh but it's gonna function as a completely uh comprehensive and cohesive uh school uh that's very important uh it was very important for the staff to to secure that need yep uh the next slide uh this is a uh kind of a representative of uh what we're looking at so you can see the from the parking area osborne street is to your back as you're looking at this we've got new windows going into the classrooms new windows upstairs into the office areas and you can see the the uh point of entrance to the uh to the building i think we have one more slide also um yes so from again from uh existing ellsworth is to your right osborne street is to your left and you can see how uh the connecting corridor leads into that central entrance and then the existing osborne street building in the background there so the site is um in in a couple pieces here so what we're looking at right now is uh again osborne street to the bottom side of the uh sheet you're coming into that parking lot um the building uh the for the classrooms um is there on your left and uh what's uh what's important here is that we're we're only taking away a few spot spaces parking spaces in this parking lot enough to put our our new uh connecting corridor there so most of most of the parking spaces will remain um and then there's the the area right now that is behind the existing building between that and the existing gym of the school will then become our uh play area or at least one of the play areas and i've got another slide which we'll get to a little bit more to detail that but uh just to uh um explain a little bit more uh if we can move the slide uh the other way up there you go so you can see um you can see the edge of that existing parking lot uh bus loop and there's an existing playscape there which i'm sure everybody's familiar with um those are gonna remain and we're gonna add a new bituminous play area because the the grass grass areas has been so difficult to make usable so it's going to be a bituminous area and and again there's going to be a half basketball court in there and so forth and i'll show that to you in a second as well if we can go to the other half of the site now so you're going to see some additional parking spots along the um along the uh left side of this uh drawing and those those will be additional parking spots um for staff uh associated with this uh with a school um and glenn i think we got 22 new spots so we really were able to what do you think we're going to be able to get that many boat uh we're able to get 22 which is really nice um so the the the parking that's uh on both sides um should give plenty of parking between uh the school and registration and will allow for some separation between those two functions and then the next site plan this is a blow up of the play area to give you a little bit more detail again you can see that the existing um playground which has the existing playscape there and the existing swing sets those are going to remain and we're going to add the bituminous area with some four square play areas hopscotch the half court basketball and something that's fairly popular a painting of the united states that is used in a lot of places and then between the two buildings we have the playscape which is going to be age-appropriate for for what we're doing we'll have a playscape there a swing a couple other apparatus it'll all be on a cushioned rubberized surface for safety each piece will have there's a safety zone that's required so it's you can't just cram a lot of uh uh items into that because you have to maintain a safety zone so um we've done that and uh there'll be some benches and and so forth in there it should be uh really really kind of nice for the students when that area predominantly is designed and the equipment is designed for a pre-k k age group right yeah and it's nicely fitted in an area where uh it's protected it's a nice isolated area uh and and um you can allow those children to play there without really getting bumped or roughhoused by a little older children which would be predominantly to your left right so all of all of the the play play apparatus is something that will get submitted to the state in in another phase of the project um but we're you know coordinating the the larger images of uh concepts of what we're doing so the state knows now and uh we'll we'll be back with a more detailed apparatus plan in the future um so that's real quickly a a a view of what we're doing um we've been working you know as antonio said several months uh we've had my team as well as my consultants out to uh um you know verify all the existing conditions uh we've been through the existing school to look at utilities and and how we're bringing bringing things across um so as antonio said we're looking forward to an approval in march and and getting this out to bid um soon after that then thank you so um before i move on do you have any uh you want to see if anybody has any questions or regarding it ask the board joe what do you think yeah the only question i had is the reimbursement still all good to go on that project yes the reimbursement um and that's the reason why we have all of these uh crazy meetings with the state is because we don't want to jeopardize that reimbursement yep so we are uh we're scheduled to meet our reimbursement with very uh negligible minimal uh ineligible cost every project has a little bit of ineligible cost but ours are very very uh minimal uh one of the things i do want to bring up to you is um the board of education space that will be used by the district on a district-wide basis the reimbursement rate for that is 50 of what our full rate is so we get a just over 60 percent so that is also eligible but at a much lesser amount but that's the way those projects are handled across the state of connecticut okay okay great uh anybody else have any questions anybody else amy glad so what is the board of education space in the top of that building it's the registration piece of your uh district-wide board of education and it covers uh it covers testing of brand new students coming in determine placement and things like that so it's sort of like your intake area for the entire district okay great thank you al you had your hand up too i think uh yes i had a question about uh there was a mention of a bituminous play area which leads me to believe asphalt uh did i understand correctly that's correct basketball versus a pulverized rubber or astro turf well part of it part of the uh area is is the rubberized surfacing but the state does not reimburse for um synthetic turf okay so uh putting the rubberized surface is something that we limit how much and it works better for certain games basketball and so forth to have the hard surface we're going to colorize it so that it's not doesn't look like a parking lot um but we find that that holds up the best i was more concerned with young child safety on an asphalt surface yeah right now that area has been producing um glass and other things and it has been a problem either got to be either or we can't leave it with grass so whatever you guys come up with so i just wanted to put that out there all right thank you anyone else if not uh doctor sal we could go on to the next one okay um antonio go okay uh let me just put this stuff away real quick um i guess i uh why don't we talk a little bit about danbury career academy so the danbury career academy again another very unique project this project is another project that has really blossomed out of a lot of the work that we did about a year ago when we were having very uh you know very detailed discussions regarding our projections for peak enrollment and not only the middle school but also the high school and also how to deal with some of the overcrowding that exists at the high school so um an opportunity uh presented itself and it's a very unique project to do a uh six to twelve school uh which will be a career academy uh at the uh summit which is uh i guess it's the old matrix which is the old uh uh what was the union car bite i think right is that what it was do you old union car by building so um there is uh there is an opportunity to take a total of three parts which are very much isolated from the balance of that building and turn it into a school there is also going to be a very a very good sized addition 25 000 square foot addition which is a good size addition that will house a gym it will house uh which will be a multi-purpose uh assembly area and also a entryway if you will uh to the to the uh 6 to 12 school that we're building there so that project we've been very lucky to secure some special legislation and the special legislation um has allowed uh this unique school to uh to be constructed in um in a commercial setting uh which is uh what lends it to be a career academy because there are numerous opportunities for children to also engage with numerous businesses and diverse businesses that exist um in this one 1.4 million square foot of building there so uh the project uh special legislation was approved for a total of 93 million dollars and we have a beautiful 80 reimbursement rate uh which our legislative folks worked really hard to secure for us and we're incredibly thankful for them to do that so this project here is in the very beginning uh it is really we just started to have conversations with the state regarding how to move ahead with this project because a project like this has really never been done before uh in the state of connecticut and the school grants folks are working with us to actually develop a pilot a program and some guidelines on possibly how other communities could do projects like this so we're kind of the first to do a project of this magnitude and although there's been an interest by other communities we are going to be the first ones to do it so um we anticipate having weekly meetings starting next week with state officials to start formulating that plan and to start gelling this project up we are also initiating uh with the board of education and all the fine folks that we always work with on the board of ed to start putting together educational specifications which really would guide us on what this school looks like what it should have in it um so that educational spec will guide us in the overall design of the spaces and how the school comes together so we are working with sal's staff to do that and we're going to probably be starting that work in the next month or so what else can i tell you about the school what i like to tell you is that the school is intended to accommodate about 330 um sixth to eighth graders uh that that's uh that's sort of where where our initial numbers lay right now and those are directly coming from the enrollment projections uh that we received about a year ago that initiated all of these discussions in addition to that uh we are looking at the high school piece to accommodate about a thousand children so uh although the enrollment peaking for uh the high school is about an additional 400 students we hope to maybe take some of the existing population that's in the high school right now and uh kind of bring it here to alleviate a little bit of the overcrowding that we have in the existing high school right now so those numbers can change a little bit based on what the educational specs um will will uh tell us to work with but overall we're looking at about 13 to total student population to work in these three parts that we spoke about the other thing that i like to tell you is the pods are are very well isolated and will be isolated from any other entry uh from the rest of the building but by design and one of the benefits is our children can utilize some of the assembly areas and other opportunities that the summit building has uh based on how much the board of education would like to have that interaction so there's some great spaces there uh there's performing uh arts areas and all of that is available to them uh through a scheduling uh scenario to utilize that so it's a great great opportunity so this project we have to get an application in to the uh school grants folks by september of 2021.

the anaheim union high school district board of trustees meeting of february 4th 2021 is called to order at 2 31. the following members are present anne-marie randall treya brian o'neill al jabar katherine h smith and myself anna piercy staff has requested the following amendments to the agenda on exhibit t we are asked to replace page one this is correcting one word in the last paragraph okay if you're not sure which one what it is an exhibit x we are replacing page six which is adding the word district to the title of the anaheim union high school district now do i have a motion to adopt the amended agenda hello i have emotionality okay all in favor aye aye any opposed okay seeing none public comments do we need to take it as a roll call vote or no i don't believe so just for adopting the agenda so typically for adoptions and for uh adjournments we we don't although the agenda does state it will be a roll call vote so then i suggest that we take a roll call what if it's uh indicative on the agenda okay oh i see where it says real call okay it doesn't say it on my subscription okay roll a call vote starting with hi kathy smith hi and i vote i okay moving on public comments closed session items is there anyone that wishes to address the board of trustees regarding closed session items only at this time uh good afternoon everyone we did not receive any uh public comment for closed session items today okay very good thank you and so now it is 2 33 p.m and we will move close session

[Music] so for those of you that um that matters or not if you use the link that i sent you you are showing up in zoom as arturo ortega congratulations i just want you to know that if you use my link that's what it's going to say it's very easy to change your name uh you can just hover i believe a hover on your picture then you'll get a little three dots and i think right there you can rename yourself if that is important to you just want you to just want you to know all right good afternoon everyone welcome to february 3rd welcome to our fifth meeting of our school reorganization team i can't believe it's already meeting number five but thank you for being on this journey with us as we address school reorganization in azusa unified school district uh all of you received an email uh from from me uh letting you know uh that today we are going to be um participating in um in a in a protocol uh called the lblb uh protocol uh we're gonna walk you through each step of the way um as we as we go through this protocol like always these these videos are being recorded live streamed and they're going to be eventually on our website along with all of the handouts the copy of the protocol everything uh that we that we provide for you will be there and archived there uh as well um so the way we're going to begin is we're going to give you some uninterrupted think time for you to either on this graphic organizer or your own piece of paper or your own graphic organizer or however it is that you would like to do you're going to be spending some time writing out what are called alby alb statements okay you can write one you can write 10 you can write 100.

for the last 11 years i have traveled across america testifying at erin's law which requires every year we teach kids personal body safety education state of illinois and 11 years later here we have now passed it in nearly 40 states hawaii was one of those states that i traveled to tried to get it passed four years ago and was not successful as a young child the only education i got when it came to sexual abuse was by perpetrators the neighbor that told me this is our little secret no one will believe you i'll come get you if you tell anybody and then the family member that told me i would destroy our family i had no proof what he was doing to me and that no one would believe me no one was ever teaching me safe and unsafe touch safe but unsafe secrets and how to speak up and tell if you were being sexually abused so i had made it my mission for 11 years now to get this passed in all 50 states hawaii is one of 13 states left that have not passed and it is my hope after looking at my testimony that i've submitted to you this is no longer an unfunded mandate the aaron's law federal bill passed in 2015 signed by president obama providing federal funding towards the bill and the fact that all the success stories popping up around the country of kids coming forward and disclosing if been abused after being taught aaron's law one perfect example was just a few months ago out of south carolina the article out of a fox news report said brave child comes forward after being taught aaron's law and reporting it to teacher a maryland teacher was sentenced to 40 in prison after a 12 year old was taught aaron's law thank you aaron members questions next testifier is andre descara andre please proceed hello chair this is remote data staff andre is not on the call thank you that is all the testifiers that we had signed up to give oral testimony we do have several written testimonies in your packet members any questions moving on the third item on the agenda is senate bill 805 relating to the practice of behavior analysis makes the exemption from the behavior analysis licensing requirements permanent for certain teachers working in collaboration with a licensed behavior analyst or licensed psychologist clarifies exemptions from licensure as a behavior analyst for general education teachers direct support workers special education teachers and teacher trainees working in collaboration with or under the supervision of licensed professionals exempts licensed special education teachers and individuals in approved and accredited special education training programs who are working toward licensure as special ed teachers whose scope of practice and training includes applied behavior analysis to testify in senate bill 805 heidi i'm armstrong testifying on behalf of the department of education heidi please good afternoon senator kivani i'm heidi armstrong from the department of education and the department supports the intent of sb 805 relating to the practice of behavior analysis with modifications the department recommends that the licensed special education teacher exemption be amended to include only special education teachers licensed in severe profound disabilities or autism who have completed training in a behavior analysis and interventions and are operating within the boundaries and scope of their education training and practice the department is also in support of allowing licensed classroom teachers to implement aba services in a school setting in collaboration with a licensed behavior analyst or a licensed psychologist and in addition the department recommends that licensed classroom teachers be allowed to implement aba in consultation with special education teachers licensed in severe profound disabilities or autism the department recognizes there may be some special education teachers licensed in severe profound disabilities or autism who feel they're not equipped to provide the level of quality aba services they are tasked with in accordance with the proposed amendments of this bill these teachers may decline to perform such services while they seek additional training and support in their area of deficit as part of their commitment to ongoing professional learning there may be situations where special education teachers licensed and severe profound disabilities or autism may be prevented from performing this work due to their current assignment or caseload in these situations thank you heidi next testifier is nathan morata dean college of education university of hawaii dean morata please all right good afternoon cherokee vice chair kim and members of the committee uh nathan morocco dean college of education thank you for the opportunity to provide testimony on senate bill 805 exempting special education teachers for training in applied behavior analysis from the behavior analysis license licensing law the university of hawaii college bridge supports senate bill 805 which exempts spread teachers from with training in apa from the uh behavioral analysis licensing law the a licensed specialist teacher and individual was working course licensure as a special teacher and was enrolled in a state approved nationally accredited special education teacher preparation program that includes training and behavior analysis assessment and intervention provided that the special education teacher and individual working towards a license special and teachers hope and education and training and practice so we're very supportive of this bill thank you for allowing us to testify on our behalf thank you dean murata next to testify mary jo noonan chair the department of special education university of hawaii thank you senator quinani and vice chair kim i'm in favor of senate bill 805 and it's exemption 10.

roughly for the hardware on the swipe system is that but it's kind of below normal clip levels so we ought to think about that yeah they're not big items but if these uh expenditures are going to last more than one year i think it's reasonable to consider but just throwing them over into capital cash for capital and actually that kind of uh brings up my next question so actually eric what what is the turnover rate on the presentation stations they last a few years i assume right yeah you know it really depends on the classroom and usage um you know it's like any other screen they have a shelf life um you know for example projector bulbs get you know 5 000 hours um i'd have to go back and look at our projectors and i'd have to go look at our current presentation stations to see what the led hours are but like most technology um they usually live on a five to six year life cycle um i think we can sometimes stretch out more um but you really don't want to go too much more than that um that's certainly some information i can gather why do they increase the chromebook so is that just because you don't need as much as you typically do no no so chromebooks is a different animal um chromebooks you know we have this program where you know the the that's a one-on-one program at the high school where you get a chromebook coming into i want to say eighth grade now eric yes correct and then you keep that chromebook through your high school career and at the end it's old enough that it's it's not worth you know it's it's lived its life so that what we're getting every year is the next class coming in gets chromebooks we recycle any reusable ones at the end kids can buy them right at the end but the uh but usually it's just a normal program that's rolling through and then they last for five years so the chromebook expense you know it's with us every year because that's the nature of the program yeah so actually what you see ricky with the with the chromebooks that we have budgeted for next year is not expanding anything it's just maintaining um the circulation the our typical rotation and circulation of chromebooks that we have and we bring back anything we can for parts right you know and we do all the normal smart things so what that makes sense uh is there so out of just the attendance system and presentation stations there's nothing else that you guys can think of or could you at least in the next month or so just if anything sticks out because every little bit of it yeah that could help um to get it moved off to the um i'll tell you what we'll have a discussion about that at our finance committee meeting on monday and uh we'll send you a note on anything that might pop out of that discussion okay we'll get that on the agenda for monday we'll make sure it's there we'll go that makes sense thank you can i ask a question um along with the the you know presentation stations and and first i do want to give compliments to the board for their very thorough report and the matching of the questions and answers to the account numbers was very very helpful um under technology other equipment used to count 57390 at 282 000.

so it's right around the corner um uh the city's already initiated uh discussions on how to formulate some paperwork and and get everybody uh on the consensus to do a bond uh which would be able to support the application going in on september so what does that mean that means that we have to demonstrate to the state when we submit our application that the voters are granting us the opportunity to spend 93 million dollars to build this school um and and that's really what the whole referendum uh is for uh we don't go out and borrow that money all at once uh we board in small pieces unless uh the money is uh uh is so perfectly priced that taking the loan out and minimizing the risk of the loan uh in the future is an attractive option which are fine has really capitalized on that uh on several other projects uh including a sewage treatment plant right now which we're able to borrow money um so incredibly cheap i i wish i could borrow it to refinance my house but uh so um the occupancy uh anticipation is for august of uh uh 2024.

this is this is up to you this is a way for you to capture and organize uh your your thoughts these lblb statements are meant to focus your attention on a particular model or particular models that are that you like that are attractive to you lbl lblb statements are not the opposite of that we are not writing things we don't like about a model today's today's protocol is going to be focusing on the things that you like the things that you appreciate the things that that are are calling to you uh that are speaking to you that are exciting you and the reason they are called lblb is because when you are writing down your thoughts and capturing your thoughts you're gonna capture them in two ways one of two ways or both ways number one you're gonna have a like because statement so you're gonna say something like i like model one because it offers parents a choice between a traditional elementary school and a tkh school that's an example and that is in your protocol the examples are in your protocols that's an example of a like because sentence or you might have a like but so maybe you do like model one and that is what you're liking but maybe your sentence is i like model one but suggest that it should only be one high school but your focus is still on what you like about that particular model in the protocol we have provided some non-examples so saying i like model 1 because model 2 is horrible would be unacceptable because you are trying to sneak in something that you don't like about a particular model and today's focus is focus trying to focus our attention on the things that you like and again maybe there's something about a model that you really really like but only if if this would happen we want to capture those too you're communicating to us hey i like this but i prefer that it would only be six schools or whatever that may be okay again there there is no magic number you can have as many uh as you want uh i have my timer here we are going to have if you've done it if you've already done this then take this time to review uh take this time to do whatever you need to do if you haven't done this take this time to try to gather your thoughts on paper of uh how this is going to go you are going to have roughly nine whole minutes to to to think about this and get your thoughts together this is think time this is silent time this is individual time around five minutes after i'm gonna check in with you and if we still have people working awesome we have until 5 45 so for now i'm going to uh stop talking enjoy your quiet time and we'll see you we'll hear from you in about nine minutes thank you [Music] yes is there a way to see all the models side by side like a a list maybe or a that we can look at give me one side i'm not but what i could do unless natasha you have that i know we have the detail one that we can post real real quick that's fine okay i did i was able to see the last three but i didn't lost three models in our emails but i couldn't find the first two okay one how many thank you no worries i'll post that or uh in the chat i have it here do you have it latasha or do you want me to post it go ahead and post it boss clap to look for it oops did you get that miss kimberly yes thank you so much this is the halfway mark just checking in give me a thumbs up if you are still that you still thumbs up means i still need more time okay perfect perfect we have about three and a half more minutes coming down to our last 15 seconds you can start and we're gonna we're gonna move on to the next steps all right thank you i saw a lot of intense thinking and working uh so i appreciate the thought that's going into uh that's going into this uh what we're gonna do now is uh we're gonna move in to start having folks share their alby alby statements and the way we're going to do that is we're going to do it by group so as a reminder right we have we are comprised of five groups we have our teacher group our classified group we have our elementary parent group we have our secondary parent group and we have our administrative group in a second i'm gonna get this nice little guy right here and i'm gonna pull out those groups at random uh to to uh to um see what order we're going to be doing that once we pull out the groups and we know which order when it's time for that group to go the other four groups are in listen mode right you are listening to this other group and you're listening to their lblb statements at no point in time will the other four groups be allowed to unmute themselves and ask a question or uh provide a counter argument or a high five like this is this group's uninterrupted time to share their lb alb statements number two just because you are a group does not mean that everyone has to have the same lb lb statements it is okay that within a group there are differing opinions that's perfectly fine that's that's that's okay and there is nothing to say that you individually have to like only one model you can like two you can like three you can like all four it is okay every alby alby statement that is shared today is 100 true and the reason it's 100 true is because these are opinions these are my thoughts and so those can those can't be wrong and we just want to listen uh and and accept your alby alby statements uh for what they are each group is going to have a maximum of 10 minutes but that doesn't mean that we need to take all 10 minutes if after seven minutes that the people in that group are done then we'll move on to the next group okay questions before i start drawing names and again i'll walk you through it as we go all right kicking us off tonight are oh no of course you can put tape on this secondary parents so secondary parents that's going to be the first group that's going to go [Music] that group is going to be followed by csea so csea will go second that group is going to be followed by admin that will be followed by elementary parents and so if we did this right i will bet a whopping one dollar that this one should say aea or teachers aea so aea will bring us uh will bring us home all right so with that being said i am going to put a 10 minute timer on the clock uh there is going to be no like first second or third you're going to unmute yourself and you're going to offer up uh your albee alby statement or albie alby statements uh and everyone should have an opportunity to do that uh yes miss jones uh leslie jones no you got a question okay i saw her raise her hand so she's in the chat there's a question she's asking how she unmutes herself oh i think she just figured it out all right there we go all right i'll start off so let me start the timer this group time starts now all right i like model one because it combines all the middle schools um into one large middle school allowing for more students which allows for more class offerings um i also like model four but i worry about having 6th graders on the high school campus maybe a 6th through 12th grade option could be looked at it i like that it gives the middle school students opportunities to take advanced classes if they qualify i like that it gives them access to the sports fields i like model 4 but i worry about the tk8 in this model not being a viable parent choice for parents of middle school students i like model 3 but it contains the most schools i worry that our the fact that our students will be spread thin across the district i like the tk8 model but i am concerned about the self-contained classes i have i have seen what ellington started off as and what it could be and what it currently is miss jones um yes uh may i ask you to start that statement with ilike model and then give us the number oh yes okay um they all contain tk8s um so i like all the models that contain the tk8 but i am concerned about the self-contained classes um i have seen what ellington started off as and could be and is currently i like model 2 because the district would be more focused on the tk school tk8 schools than they have in the past the schools could have a sense of um equity um i like model three um but it contains the most schools oh i already said that one um i like model three but i personally think that the tk8 should be eliminated the two middle schools combined however it still does not address the declining enrollment of our high schools um i like all of the models that include the implementation plan of the models um but i am concerned that the five-year transition plan is too long could we look at a two to three year transitional plan and i'll pass the time to other parents thank you someone else who ha who who's in the secondary parent group okay miss rico okay i like model three uh because it keeps middle schools i like model three but i think that we should eliminate the k through eight make it into a tk through five um also uh keep only one high school uh i like uh model three but i think that the transition should be two or three years instead of five um and i also like model four but prefer to have uh the sixth graders uh not you know make it a seven through twelve instead of a six to twelve thank you miss rico another parent from the secondary group i can go thank you um i just have one really i like model three but i think it would be more cost effective and better for the students to have one high school and maybe one middle school and keep the sixth graders down at the elementary level thank you another one of our parents from the secondary group i'll do one more i like model one um the fact that it has the one traditional middle school um but i would eliminate all of the tk8s and just do four or five tk through fives and combine the two high schools thank you uh do we have uh sophia uh berdusco with us in the in the room how about um miss virginia batista yes i'm here would you like to share any lblb's i'm sorry very good it was at the heist i thought it was the elementary okay now i did like model three because it has a two traditional six to eight but i just i'm not sure about um i like it but i'm still kind of worried about the um the middle school getting enough of um um education in the classroom you know the self-contained classroom and i like the model too because the schools are more equitable there's five t k through eights and only two high school but again i'm worried about will the middle schoolers be prepared to go into high school and changing schedules and moving about thank you miss loose fields with us tonight [Music] okay any other parent from the secondary group that has anything else to contribute or another lblb statement all right well thank you thank you for that awesome launch uh parents of secondary students uh we appreciate your alby alby statements uh very thoughtful thank you all right we are going to reset the timer here let me put a fresh new 10 minutes and we are going to now transition to c s e a again every all the other four groups are are in listen mode um as we listen to their lb lb statement or statements your 10 minutes starts now okay i thought patricia was going first but i i didn't go first um i like model three because it offers the more traditional um uh choices um i wouldn't want to have like just one high school because i think that would um cause us to lose students and defeat the purpose um and but also i have a concern that right now and this is kind of adding to it that maybe we should actually you know postpone it a year until right in the middle of pandemic that maybe is not the best time to start thinking about closing schools rather than we should start to just worry about getting the kids back in school so that's my opinion thank you i like model 3 because it does offer more choices and it maintains the middle school um but i at this time um the same i would like to table it due to the recent uh pandemic we need to focus on supporting our students our community our parents and our staff and be available and ready for them so i like model 3 also because it does give us that traditional transition for students and it gives choices um i also too feel that the timing is um not right to be able to um make these hard decisions um i'm we're looking more at the you know social and emotional needs of our students and to impose another change in their lives that they've already encountered um would be another hardship for them um so i too also along with my csca fellow csa brother sisters and brothers believe that we should table this okay i also i agreed with them i um i like the model three it does offer more choices to the parents my i do have the concern though of only having one high school um there's so much um um pride in their height in each high school each high school has their pride and they're so um driven and to take that away and have like have them pick they almost it's almost like the kids would have to choose a high school and um i feel that that would probably be really hard on on the kids on the students as far as their emotional being um i feel i do feel we need to probably table this as well um at least it for another year um the kids are barely going to be returning to their schools and then to have to realize that they have to be changing schools or splitting up families or because there are certain the programs aren't available or um that they actually leave our district as well because um because that we don't offer um what their students are needing or what they're wanting so i agree with with them so that's mine other lblb statements from csca oh okay well thank you csea i'm going to reset the clock here um if i'm not mistaken i think add let me make sure yes admin is next um i like because i like but all right your 10 minutes starts now i i will go first i like model 3 because it provides parents options similar to what we currently offer i like model 3 because it offers choice in traditional middle school programs i like model 3 but suggests having one high school and one middle school to maximize capacity i like model 3 but suggest five traditional elementary tk six since we just added sixth grade to our campus this year i like model three but suggest eliminating the tk8 i'm making it a tk5 or tk6 like the rest of the elementary schools thank you and i will continue i like model 3 because it includes a dual immersion option at a traditional middle school i like model 3 because less goals are affected during the gradual transition i like model 3 because it allows middle school students to mature before entering high school i like model 3 because it gives students more opportunities for traditional electives i like model 3 but students in schools 6 and 7 should also have the opportunity to participate in stem thank you i can go ahead and go next i like model one and three because they offer the most student and parent academic options in a secondary setting i like model 3 but we would like to investigate one high school i like model 4 but would prefer a 612 versus a 712 increasing the probability that students will stay in ausd i like models one three and four but would like to investigate and consider the 0.5 ap and counseling ratio that are not aligned with any recommended recommendations from any of the governing boards to be staffed appropriately and that's all i have all right um i like model four because it helps secondary schools develop student readiness and academic subjects with a maybe more single subject teachers more more opportunity for vertical articulation between middle school to high school also we maximize the use of the newly renovated athletic facilities at ahs and ghs the elective offerings at middle school might be written probably would be richer given access to more teachers at two sites and finally model four because we could concentrate resources for stronger art and music programs at the sites and then i like model 4 but i think it should be 7 to 12 like other schools in l.a county that have 7 to 12 possibilities but we would require lots of attention to scheduling logistics and student movement at the sites but for model 4 we may need to consider bell schedules and how many periods a day are offered admin there's still time on the clock is there anyone else from the admin team uh that has another lbl statement that they would like to share okay we're gonna reset the clock here the timer i'm sorry uh to ten minutes um we are moving on to parents of elementary students again i like this model because i like this model but elementary parents your 10 minutes starts now i'm happy to start so i like model one because it offers the option for a traditional elementary and middle school i like models one three and four but would like to see them phased in over two to three years instead of five i like model 3 because it offers the most schools out of all the models i like model 3 because it keeps the most traditional elementary and middle schools i like model 4 because it keeps the traditional elementaries i like model 4 because it offers 6th through 8th graders an opportunity for richer electives and or after school activities and sports i like model 1 but would like to see the dual immersion included in the traditional middle school as well i like model three but suggest that it should only have one high school i like the same goes for model one as well i like model one but would like to see only one high school i like model three but suggest moving the sixth graders back into the elementary school in the 21-22 year i like model four but prefer to see a 7 through 12 instead of a 6 through 12.

i'm professor and chair of the department and i have expertise in severe disabilities autism and applied behavior analysis or ada teachers licensed to severe profound disabilities and autism are very well trained to design and deliver aba assessments and interventions my written testimony also submitted illustrates the substantial overlap in the coursework and practicum for special education teachers and severe profound disabilities in autism and behavior analysts aba is the foundation of special education and severe disabilities and autism and it is assessed in the special education licensing exam used in hawaii we must include these skills in our accredited curriculum it will benefit our state and our state's children with licensed teachers and severe disabilities in autism are exempt from the behavior analyst licensing law and allowed to practice within the scope of their training and practice my written testimony provides suggested language for senate bill 805 thank you thank you next to testify corey rosenly president hawaii state teachers association hi mitsy hika speaking for corey rosenly president of hawaii state's teachers association we oppose sb 805 and this is the reason our teachers as we have stated before even our special ed teachers it's not the same license as if they were a behavior analyst or a school psychologist and we do not want them to be exempt we do agree they can in fact implement and the date that is on let's say july 1st 2019 on page 2 line 14 should absolutely be removed so that teachers can be free to implement the problem with implementation of the other like the functional behavior assessment we're talking about a 20 to 30 page report teachers are already overwhelmed especially our special ed teachers they do a lot of assessments but sometimes they need outside help they need to ask another expert to do a functional behavior assessment and give them an aba plan and then they work together to support the child thank you mitzi next to testify dr linda huffano for alex lichten on behalf of hawaii psychological association thank you good afternoon uh chair kidani and vice mercado kim i'm dr linda lufano and i am here to uh you have a written testimony but i'm also here to say that there is still a huge need for both aba paraprofessionals and aba professional so we are advocating or seeking clarification to ensure that licensed psychologists will be able to supervise any parent including registered behavior technicians we have trained these people sometimes they get an rbt certification in addition to the certification that that is required for us to to work with the doe or uh to work with third-party payers so we want to continue to supervise those people and we also believe that it will be helpful to the department of education we know that the superintendent in a recent report indicated that there is thank you dr houfano next to testify amanda kelly vice president co-founder together for our keiki amanda hello chair amanda is not on the call thank you next to testify amoy hugh penny individual okay you here and see me yes hi my name is dr ramoy penny i have over 25 years experience as both a board certified behavior analyst as well as special education teacher and administrator i have been teaching both licensed teachers in teacher licensing programs as well as behavior analysts and behavior analyst certification programs i am in favor of some of the exemptions made in collaboration with behavior analysts however i am in opposition to exemption 10 for teachers who are only enrolled but not licensed as special educators and for those who which we cannot test their exact competencies in um writing behavioral procedures the extent to which the the experience necessary to do such engage in such practices is uh quite extraordinary and uh to do so without a lice without collaboration with a licensed behavior analyst could lead to the opening of increased risk of harm thank you next to testify kristen kolberbert individual thank you chair kadani vice chair ricardo cammon members of the committee i would like to stand on my written testimony in support of exemptions 2 and exemption 4 but oppose exemption 10 and echo hsta's testimony ensuring that teachers have the support of experts as part of the iep team when needed to support some of our most vulnerable students thank you thank you kristin members that is the last of our oral testimony and we have several a number of written testimony are there any questions members if not thank you moving on to [Music] item number four relating to public school lands requires the attorney general let's say of hawaii on behalf of the department of education to institute proceedings to acquire certain land owned by the mililan town association by voluntary action or condemnation to testify on senate bill 806 randy tanaka for the department of education hello kidani vice chair kim thank you very much we truly support the bill and want to thank you senator and the mta for the extraordinary patience that you have displayed in getting this accomplished you should know that we're very close to the finish line the condemnation process has is in place we're about to complete the project in the front of the school and acquire the rest of the property that will be put to good use by the by the school so i just want to say thank you very much we support the intent of the bill and much mahalo thank you randy members questions and uh just as a note i am a board member of the mililani town association and they are voluntarily wanting to release the lands to the department of education without any questions members moving to item number five on our agenda senate bill 807 requires relating to education requires the department of education to submit an annual report on the school academic and financial plans to the board of education and the legislature to testify on senate bill 807 is phyllis una bisami for the department of education our deputy superintendent phyllis please aloha um vice chair kim and members of the committee i'm feliciano bassami deputy superintendent testifying on behalf of superintendent kishimoto the department supports the tenants of this bill and offers comment in our written testimony we thank the legislature for your interest in delivering high quality k-12 public education in hawaii school-level leaders in collaboration with their school community councils are best suited to design academic and financial plans to meet the needs and aspirations of the learners in their community the department state offices provide resources centralized and targeted support to ensure the successful execution of those school plans and we are available to answer any of your questions mahalo thank you phyllis also to testify sherry nakamura director for hey a coalition yes uh aloha cherokee danny vice chair kim and members of the committee a coalition is testifying in support of sp 807 on academic and financial plan reporting we thank the legislature for this bill which asks schools to connect the usage of financial resources to student outcomes stakeholders are entitled to see where schools are strategically spending their resources to provide the greatest impact on students while the bill improves transparency and connecting the use of resources to outcomes we believe that more should be done when we look at the academic plans on the doa website they are difficult to understand and there's no consistency in reporting across schools which makes it difficult to evaluate their effectiveness we give an example of how we think the academic plan should be structured so that stakeholders can logically follow the goals and strategies that both the schools system and the schools we hope that we were able to present it in a way that is easy to follow if you have any questions we are happy to stand by thank you for this opportunity to testify thank you very much sherry members questions sherry the last of our oral testimony we have two written testimony also there are no questions moving to item six on the agenda senate bill 809 relating to education appropriates funds to public school positions and the hawaii teachers standards board to testify dean nathan morata college education uh university of hawaii di morata please oh hi again good afternoon chair kadani vice chair kim and members of the committee the university of white manoa college of education supports senate bill 809 which provides funding for public school positions and the hawaii teacher standards board there is a continuous need for public school positions throughout the state of hawaii including the heart to fill areas in high demand positions further it means hawaii teacher standards board serves as a catalyst for ensuring all our teacher candidates have met professional ethical standards prior to receiving a teacher license thank you for allowing us my testimony to support thank you dean morata to testify also lynn hammond's executive director hawaii teacher standards board vin thank you chair kidani vice chair kim and members of the committee i'm lynn hammons executive director of the hawaii teacher standards board and we stand on our written testimony and strong support of the spill and thank you for hearing it we hope to be able to continue seamlessly to provide support for teacher licensing preparation programs and professional development in the state and if you have any questions i'm here to answer those for you but again thank you very much for hearing this bill and for your support thank you men members questions interesting if not we are moving on to the next item in our agenda senate bill 811 relating to the department of education requires the department of education to publish a weekly report on schools that have reported cobit 19 cases to testify on senate bill 811 phyllis una bisami deputy superintendent phyllis please are you i'm just checking can you hear me yes okay thank you aloha chair vice chair and members of the committee the listener basami deputy superintendent on behalf of superintendent kishimoto the department offers comments on this bill the department has been advised that disclosure of a specific school where an individual tests positive for covet 19 would negatively affect our ability to protect the individual and or community groups from being identified protect them from harassment and based on our experiences being marginal being marginalized the department has been able to respond to the incidence of covet exposure through our mitigation strategies current communication protocols and continual consultation with health experts from doh and cdc recent school visits by cdc and doh to multiple schools validated the efforts of our school leaders and teams to create a safe place in the midst of a pandemic to date we have no report of transmission of covet due to the way we operate our schools this is a testament to the dedicated work of our state level kovid thank you deputy superintendent uh members any questions good one phyllis i do have a question um you know i just wanted you to make sure is that we're not here to to say that you are you can't you shouldn't i mean you should be naming individuals that's not what we're asking we're just asking you to name the schools previously you guys have told us it's against hipaa it's against ferpa i doubt that that's the truth just recently i can't remember it was in the morning paper yesterday morning's paper a principal of a of a windward school you know said that they had a covet case i mean it's in the paper doh you know often names uh care homes and condos where there have been outbreaks so i do not see why you cannot name the school we're not asking you to name an individual a student or teacher whatever instead of naming a complex area which in the case of mililani can be from mililani town all the way through the north shore with thousands of people there wondering what school it is and you know being unaware it it makes them hesitant makes parents and students hesitant to want to come back to a you know in school classroom because they don't know which one it is and i'm not saying that the schools are not doing a good job uh sanitizing i'm just saying the public has a right to know what schools have been impacted so so why is really hesitant to do that so based on our thank you senator um and so based on our experiences and which schools have um been identified either by media or by others um we have experienced disruptions to the school community to the school operations we have seen families and or community groups that have been ostracized and or marginalized especially in schools in in communities that are small enough where it's easy to identify based on the the kinds of notice that might be given that was put into the media it is for that reason that we are hesitant to identify schools the burden of taking the questions inquiry either from media and or from the public and that falling on an individual school administrator at a time when they're trying to set up operations and so forth we know from talking with school leaders that it has impacted their ability to do their job and run these goals and it's for that reason i'm in front of you sharing that um we ask that you consider that we do do notification and communicate with those individuals that might have been affected by a person whether it's a staff member or and or a student that we do communicate with the com the affected community but that we do not feel that publishing yet on a weekly basis adds to the value of the communication protocols that we've already set up frankly deputy superintendent i believe that it would be less of an impact and to the school to have the information made public by the department of education it doesn't have to be the principle but just to let them know there was a case it's under control that's all that has to be said rather than having again multiple communities wondering you know is it their school was it their student was it you know their family member was it their teacher that's all i'm saying i think it's more disruptive when the public does not know members questions senator kim thank you uh i i to share the concerns of the chair wouldn't it be better for doe to get in front of it wouldn't it be better for you folks to control the message by putting it out and saying who would be the person to respond to it doesn't have to be the principal it can be the superintendent whoever you designate but you would be in control how is it going to help if a small community the people find out without you making the notice and word gets out and it doesn't necessarily get out in an accurate way then the community is going to be all up an alarm so i think that's a worse scenario than you folks being in front of it and taking control of it thank you senator um again we have communication protocols that include notifying the affected community of close contact possible close contact we also have in abundance of caution put in some protocols and agreed to certain procedures that we will use to make sure that we're protecting and keeping our our schools and our offices safe employees and students and so in our experiences so far we have set up those those um those protocols and have been using them for the last 10 months in those cases um we have found that that has helped to balance the uncertainty and reluctance of individuals who um carry the carry whatever for whatever reason and this sense of worry that i might be stigmatized i might lose standing in my in my community and we believe that as an organization that if we can help to balance that that we want to be able to do that and that that is why we set up our protocols the way we have all of the communication that has to do with a particular case is um handled with the school by the state office and by the the complex area and we do it as quickly as we can so that it reduces and the burden on the school and lessens hopefully the disruption to the school what we know is that when a school gets identified whether we agree that we will handle the media and or public inquiries the school still is a point as the focus of wanting communication beyond the school community i can understand everything you said and i certainly appreciate that but again this is a small community even the whole state of hawaii where it gets out so when you say stigmatize the fact that we're not talking about a case we're not talking about the individual we're talking about the school so i find your your reasoning to you know you can continue to do everything you're doing we're just the what the bill is calling for and what the community other this bill is here because this is what the community feels is needed and that they want to know what school so i think you folks need to rethink your your position on this thank you senator de la cruz phyllis what i don't understand why the department sees it as an either or similar to what senator kim is saying why can't you just do both again in discussion with our leaders and knowing what the impact is when we are when a school has been identified whether um erroneously or not the impact on a small school in a community where everyone knows each other is detrimental and i am speaking from experience and it is for that reason as we as we learned and we built the system um i can only say that in my experience i will do what i can at my in my role to continue to protect on the individual from being the focus of attention while they're converting from an illness and that's why i am asking for you to consider that that position also i think it's more if effective if the department comes out with messaging versus having the coconut wireless start to dictate the messaging and then you lose control and then now you're doing more mitigating on the messaging because you didn't come up with anything official from the beginning so please note that we do come up with something but it is to the affected community um and the people that are in close proximity to the case okay i just think in this time of social media and twitter and facebook and people calling and texting that if the department is not ahead of it then now you're having to deal with more mitigation more effort getting the truth told out trying to change get the facts out and you're already behind because the department's not taking the lead further questions members if not moving on to the next testifier who looks like he's ready to jump in cory rosen the president hawaii state teachers association you may be again corey thank you chuck itani good to see all of you oh yes hsca supports us bill this is something that we've been advocating from the beginning of this pandemic we know that other states are actually doing it by school there's so much need for this for multiple reasons we shouldn't have to guess if there's cases at a school it doesn't allow us to have any accountability to the doe especially to look to see what type of opening a school is having whether it's bringing all students on campus is there higher cases we also have our teachers share that some schools are not maintaining certain cleanliness standards and there's no accountability to check with this as well so if we're noticing that certain types of openings are causing more cases or if we're seeing that the schools are not able to keep up to certain cleanliness standards and that is leading to increase of cases there needs to be some accountability in the department so that's why we do support this bill thank you corey um you know i'm i neglected to mention that senator favela is with us virtually senator favela thank you for joining us members any questions of corey rosenly please if not corey thank you very much moving on to item number eight and the last item on our agenda senate bill 812 relating to education requires a superintendent to serve as a summer learning coordinator and coordinate all summer programs for children requires the summer learning coordinator to leverage certain federal funds for school-based summer programs to testify on senate bill 812 terry ushijima for the department of education please thank you cherokee dani thank you for this opportunity to testify on behalf of the superintendent the hawaii department of education respectfully provides comments on senate bill 8-12 and stands on our written testimony given the existing board policy 500-18 providing the superintendent with discretion over summer school programming and the existing cross-office collaboration we believe this measure is not needed at this time we will defer to the department of human services in regards to any restrictions placed on the federal funds administered by their department that is mentioned in the bill thank you members questions terry i have a question um with regard to any programs being looked at by doe for remediation for our students who are falling far behind because of you know of course the pandemic and not being able to be physically in school are there programs being looked at now is there a plan i yes we are currently working with our complex area superintendents who are working with their schools to look at their student progress up to this point and they are in the process of determining what their school needs are and we will be having further discussions about possible options this upcoming month and moving forward well we're already in february and in three and a half months or so you know summer will be here for for our students um i think we're kind of getting past the time of looking and we need to be having some plans in place um and that's you know i have some concerns because you guys have already posted some of the uh the test results and we know that between 23 and 25 percent of our students in grade school are failing in or behind in reading and math um that being known i think you know those are programs that you should be looking at and should have some idea of what we're going to do for these students yes we we realize that summer will be here very soon and that it is important for us to start looking at what we need to do to extend learning for some of these students in need and we are also waiting to make sure that you know we work with our our board of education to get appropriate um approvals and decisions to uh determine our funding sources as well so why we are not just waiting um we are actively in the process of working with our schools in complex areas to design what the school specific programs might look like thank you for that terry but in listening to some of the board meetings um it seems to me that the board is asking the same questions and also you know asking about uh what the plans are for funding and have not received that information yet so i i just wanted you guys to be put on notice that we are aware of what the statistics are and we are aware that there will be funding coming down from from the feds to help with the department of education we are aware of the budget shortfalls which is why planning now for courses and curriculum that's going to be needed is even more important to make sure that we have funds available to carry this out and keep our children at the grade levels that they need to be to move them on to the next grade members any further questions senator favela are you raising your hand no okay i'm scratching my nose thank you terry moving on to the next testifier kathy betts director department of human services kathy please good afternoon sharokina vice chair kim and members of the committee my name is catherine scardino i am program administrator with dhs here to testify on behalf of director best the department stands on its with written testimony and offered comments we will stand by to answer any questions from committee members thank you members any questions if not moving on to corey rosenly president hawaii state teachers association uh chair kadani hsd opposes the bill as it stands right now specifically one provision and that is that the uh there could be use of the keras acts funding for this um the last boe meeting the superintendent put forward a proposal that was asking for 50 million dollars for private tutors and 10 million dollars for summer school learning at the same time looking to eliminate 700 teaching positions we know that there's great need out there but we need to prioritize so we would ask that if this bill proceeds just to eliminate the cares act as a potential source of funding thank you thank you corey this is exactly why we're asking the department for their plans because we would like to know what that is also members questions if not paula adams executive director hawaii after school alliance good afternoon chair kidani vice chairs mercado kim and members of the committee i am paula adams from the kawaii after school alliance and i'm here to support the intent of the bill and to answer any questions that you might have regarding summer programs thank you for this opportunity to testify thank you paula members questions if not nicole wu director hawaii children's action network speaks aloha chair uh kidani and vice chair kim members of the committee i'm the director of research and economic policy at hawaii children's action network speaks and i stand on our written testimony in support of the spill we know pandemic learning loss is affecting our students especially those without the means it's exacerbating inequalities in our state so we believe that a coordinated effort on summer learning is one way that we can really help these students catch up the current system is sort of first come first serve um it would be great if there are ways to really target those children who've been falling behind further from their peers and we really um you know we defer to hsta and their concerns if there are certain funds that aren't appropriate we understand that but the idea of coordinating summer learning is the important thing too is our important message and we support that part of the bill thank you nicole members questions if not can i call for a recess we're reconvening the on education three o'clock agenda starting with senate bill 224 recommendation of the chair is to pass as is chair votes i question both sides hi senator hi senator favela once twice excused affirmative recommendations thank you senate bill 518 relating to education recommendation is to pass with amendments this is a bill to require the department of education to establish and implement a sexual abuse prevention education program we will include charter school participation in the development of the program and specifying that the board of education adopt board policies applicable to all public schools including charter schools we will also insert a blank amount of appropriation amount to go to the charter commission for the purpose of implementation of the program and we also have technical and non-substantive amendments no questions senate bill 518 pass with amendments chair votes eye chair both sides thank you for senate bill 805 relating to the practice of behavior analysis recommendation of the chair is going to be to pass with amendments we will focus on area where we do have consensus by striking the exemption 10 in section 1 and also making technical and non-substantive amendments questions if not senate bill 805 to pass with amendments chair votes aye both side vice chair both sides senator cruz all right all right senator kavela aye members president all affirmative recommendations thank you senate bill 806 relating to public school lands this is the uh mililani town association uh voluntary action of condemnation for the department of education at mililani high school recommendation the chair is to pass as is members questions if not senate bill 806 pass as is chair votes eyewitnesses all right thank you senate bill 807 relating to education requires the department of education to submit an annual report in the school academic and financial plans to the board of education and the legislature recommendation of the chairs to pass with amendments clarifying that three most recent years of strive high data must be included in the academic plan the naep scores apply to schools who participate school outcomes in the academic plan must have priority improvement strategies and measures to determine progress and also the reflect in the committee report the suggestion by hey coalition to set up continuous monitoring by complex area and state leadership to support schools members questions if not recommendation is to pass with amendment senate bill 807 chair votes eye share any members voting no any members voting with reservations if not all members voting an affirmative your recommendations adopted thank you senate bill 809 appropriates funds to public school positions and the hawaii teachers standards board recommendation is to pass with amendments making technical and non-substantive amendments um chair wanted all to also to to say that this is not new funding it just was not put in the line item this is something hawaii teaches standards voice has been around for a long time and we do need them so recommendation again is to pass senate bill 809 with amendments to make technical and non-substantive amendments questions share both sides any member voting no any member of voting reservations hearing none five members in the affirmative recommendations thank you senate bill 811 requires the department of education to publish a weekly report on schools that have reported covid 19 cases recommendation of the chair is to pass as is members questions if not recommendation of the chair is to pass senate bill 811 as is chair votes eye trouble signing members voting no any members voting reservations hearing none recommendation all members going and affirmative recommendations adopted thank you the final bill is senate bill 812 requires the superintendent to serve as a summer learning coordinator and coordinate all summer programs for children requires a summer learning coordinator to leverage certain federal funds for school-based summer programs recommendation of the chair is going to be to def pass with amendments and the amendments would be to defect the date to july 1 2050 for further discussion of this bill members questions recommendations past senate bill 812 with amendments chair votes eye double sign remember voting no and remember voting with reservations reservations okay reservations for senator fabella anyone else if not for all font members in the affirmative recommendations of them thank you members thank you audience for your testimony meetings adjourned you

other than five presentation state uh stations is there anything else that's included in that because it just says other it's so it's not a very good explanation it says other equipment i can go unless eric knows it off the top of his head i can go back and find some details for you we have we have details all the way down to the school level it's a question of digging quickly oh well i mean i did i saw within the booklet you know they had given us you know the stations i just wasn't sure i i didn't see anything else within the book and then maybe just another question if anyone's looking up my my question you know the answer to that um so when we're done uh with our desk shields and all that with you know the end of covid here um i trust we're going to keep them hope hopefully we'd never need them again but but keep them for the expense that we put into them is there going to be a cost for storage or where where do we plan on keeping these um the first thing sue is that's a great question um secondly uh we hope we're really nearing the end of this there's certainly light at the end of the tunnel with the vaccine program on its way um but we are hearing uh from all the different health folks that we speak with that while the majority of people will be vaccinated come september um to really begin herd immunity sometime over the summer there may still start the school year be a lot of mitigation that needs to continue so we may be using the shields contrary to popular belief into the beginning of the school year we don't know that yet um in addition to that we work on storage probably at the schoolhouse level at this point um we haven't given a lot of thought to taking a look you know they've been taking off trucks and things like that um and um i think it's there's some good hygiene practice that we've uh gotten involved with and so they may be used as partitions where teachers have sight lines for supervision and so forth but we have partitions in the room uh and for other reasons um so i think we're still going to get some good use out of those okay thank you and sue um so i found uh most of the the stuff that's in other equipment are the chromebooks and the laptops for staff those are the biggest sort of uh pieces to that you know what all what all you know other things that fall into their sort of like firewall maintenance network switches things like that but uh it's technology related um okay yeah same i wanted to pull my my information up in front of me although i can probably do off top of my head i want to make sure i have it in front of me um yeah that that's um um the majority of that is definitely the chromebooks on the increase in the presentation stations thank you so if you want um oh sorry go ahead ricky i'm sorry no i just noticed a pretty large um increase in the technology software line um as well and they're listed as inflationary and contractual drivers and not new investments so i'm just is that because they're just an increase in subscription costs or maybe expanding on certain subscriptions like none of those are any sort of one i know everything's pretty much digital and subscription based now i just want to confirm that that's the issue there yeah i mean over the years we have certainly um really increased our our technology in the software obviously for for the students especially this year too but the but the cost for those programs are going up i mean only because you know everybody needs them and companies realize that so yeah okay okay we can we can we have all that detail ricky so i can we can we can send you a detailed analysis of the line items and what's happening some of that was we had some stuff that was covered by a grant that is now in regular spend so that's uh that's uh that was part of the explanation in the footnotes there and i think eric and ken can develop a little chart that walks through exactly what's going on there down to the line item level because that's what we went through i just don't have happen to have those notes easy at hand oh that's fine just i just wanted clarification on it it's a good question always thank you for the chart showing the class uh size reports um but i'll tell you that the the brookfield high school class report did uh uh you know really show itself to me with the percentage of uh classes that are above the class size guidelines um is there any thought for increasing the number of teachers at the high school level to reduce some of these well we certainly would like to i mean we do have one in the in the budget for next year um i saw mr bland to turn his camera on so he's probably he's probably ready to answer this one so i can turn it over to you to help help answer that one well sue and i i appreciate that you you know you notice that it comes it really does jump off the page when you look at it in terms of our class sizes at the high school um it's something that we're certainly faced with especially in covid times in terms of mitigation strategies right it's one of the reasons we're still on a hybrid schedule is because our classrooms just can't fit the same number of kids in them that we typically have to space everybody out and make it work the way that we'd like it to or need to according to guidelines um you know we've tried to been really we've tried to be really um systematic in the expansion of you know and and responsible in asking for or looking to expand our programs um you know i think of when i started we we've added a since i've started so we've added a science teacher we've added a business teacher we've added um a reading specialist we've added um you know we have a tesol teacher and teacher in the district which now services a bunch of different people um so we've we've made some pretty significant expansions if you think about over the course of the six years i've been there um i'm really starting to try to to do that and for me it's really in the elective areas right so that's where that request for technology teacher um you know there is uh today on capitol hill uh dr cardona was asked in this congressional hearing um you know i'm gonna throw my plug for you know i'm a meredith boy he's from my hometown you know i saw him at a pig roast once i can say um but uh you know he was asked about class size and and you know they talked about specifically you know 28 kids in a class and uh one particular senator was asking saying that there is there is no statistical difference i think it was actually mitt romney who was saying it um and during his conversation and and dr cardona answered it great he said listen if you give me a classroom of i'm paraphrasing of course of 28 kids versus a classroom of 15 to 16.

that fits in very very well with the enrollment peaking that occurs not only in high school but also that occurs uh in the middle school the middle school peaking is a little farther down the road but having this school ready so we could uh introduce students and slowly migrate them into this new facility that sal is very interested in doing that uh again if everything goes well we might have an earlier occupancy opportunity but right now with covet and everything that's going on we feel comfortable with the august 24th uh 2024 uh because it also fits in well with our peaking and uh a projected enrollment uh uh so everything seems to be working uh really well um and that's that's all i i have i don't know if there's any additional questions i can get a little more into detail regarding the existing building but right now it's such a schematic and preliminary planning a project that i don't have much to share with you i i just uh one of the board one of the issues and challenges i think the board wants to be mindful of is that there is a firewall mentality between the main operation and and the school i think so you know in the design that's something we kept coming over and over so that's important the rainbow too so that's that's a very good point to bring up yes there's not only a a total isolation um and and what sal is describing uh you know these fire separations which are very critical and a requirement of our code but um we we are gonna put in and there's plenty of stairwells we're gonna put in an additional stairwell um in the corridor building just to facilitate additional opportunities during an emergency for children to get out of this building safely again um we got to be careful that we don't over build a stairwell is could be considered an overbill scenario and we don't get reimbursement but right now we have planned for a very large center core uh stairwell which will also facilitate another uh elevator and that will drop right down into the core entry point that we described which would be a complete safety checkpoint uh for for everything uh as you know parking is uh is also going to be dedicated parking for this school so there'll be dedicated parking for students and for teachers uh and that is part of the agreement that the developer has offered to give us so there'll be plenty of parking uh directly and covered parking directly accessible for this building the uh the other thing you know before mark left and um one of the things we talked about because you just mentioned it and i'm sure the board's thinking the 93 million dollars is not what we're spending but that has to be the referendum on approval that's not actually that's not that's not the tax dollars from danbury is that correct well it's the price tag is 93 million that includes everything from design about 80 percent of that uh and very close to 80 percent is is going to be the base reimbursement so uh you know we're only paid for 20 of this building which is incredible um i think that was the point that you just can't put the 20 you have to put the whole enchilada on on the ballot and yeah it's gonna cost 20 million but i just wanted the board to realize that that's why it's got to be uh portrayed that way thank you gladys um just just a couple of things um and i know it's still preliminary and we need to kind of circle back on some of the ideas that we've been brewing and cooking up in the background when it comes to uh sort of the 612 piece we started to talk more along the lines of maybe the middle school side middle school component being slightly larger than we originally discussed because of the just the economy of scale that is not really there when you only take a few kids out of out of the middle school right so you still have to have this middle school staffing set up um you know whether you're have a you know 330 or 500 right so um so how do we hit that sweet spot so that it's um economically uh more viable than to kind of overstaff for a smaller number of kids so that was sort of one piece um and also pulling enough kids out of the middle school to make a nice dent in that um you know the the having a thousand uh kids on the high school side is a lot it's actually a lot more than we actually need um and so how can we kind of rebalance the numbers a little bit um so we've been having some conversations which of course would affect how we would design the the separate learning spaces between middle school and high school and so you know before we kind of go down that road of um you know the architectural plans and and finalizing those things i definitely want to make sure that we you know we swoop back around to kind of have those discussions uh the other thing that um is kind of kind of you know i talked to dr sal a little bit about this um about the identity of the school itself and the campus and that this is not going to be a high school but it will have a middle school component and that and that currently in those plans even though we don't have even though i heard you say that we have opportunities to book space in the matrix or rent space for functions i'm a little concerned that we don't have in those plans you know in thinking through them a place that is you know for that school for that campus so whether it be an auditorium whether it be a a grand or multi-purpose room of some kind where kids can come and meet where schools can meet and for assemblies to have discussions with folks coming in for careers and so right now it's a lot of classrooms and a gymnasium and a small kitchen and so you know if it's not too far down the road how do we think kind of you know a little bit differently about the reorganization of space if possible just putting it out there while we still have time to to make changes and to be thinking through it um because you know down the road as they continue to sell off space at the at the summit site um things that were initially available to us now because of the large fast availability may suddenly become unavailable and that leaves us with a 13 or 1400 seat school without a place to meet and to gather the student body which is really part of the identity and the culture of the school so just something to think about cara i think when we come up with the ed specs um you know there is a large gymnasium that can be a gym auditorium i think the specs will have to help us also uh if um we need multi experiment rooms where you can bring um you know rooms together i think that all would have to be built into the spec that's what i think uh antonia was referring to so that it could be a comprehensive plan so meeting areas um experiment areas things of that nature um would be in that specs and that's why it's important that we develop them and i just uh i just want to say this you know we uh we're right in the beginning and the you know the worst part of my job is um if i say nothing um then i'm a bad guy if i say too much i'm also a bad guy so uh what does that mean what that means is um we want to put something out there to get people to think uh to get you folks to think uh the enrollment projections some of the previous discussions we had with the high school regarding population that's what i just presented uh the the discussions that care is bringing up are good discussions they need to be had and honestly sal you'll have to orchestrate how many students you want there there is an opportunity for 13 1400 students whether we increase the number of middle uh school kids there and we lessen the high school that's up for you folks to sort of kind of figure out but the opportunities there the other thing i want to mention to you is um one of the benefits of going to this facility is i think there's a thousand seat auditorium uh that's available for you folks to gather uh that's not a that's not an uh that's not a space that's getting used every day so um that is one of the benefits there is a um a restaurant class uh high production kitchen uh should you guys want to have some big events or uh or gatherings uh so there's a lot of opportunity to be associated uh with the summit that's there um one of the things we got to be careful with is our space we got to meet the space requirements so we have to be very conscientious of the fact that if we build more space then the state is willing to reimburse us on we have to pay for that space we also recognize that because this is a career academy there's going to be some specialized educational spaces that were that are going to eat up a lot of square footage which typically doesn't fit into their formula so we have to just balance all of that but um these are all great discussions that we'll have down the road uh and that's that's why i think it's important as we start to talk with the state about how to formulate the the process of building a school there we also start uh talking to you guys about a net spec and and some of these issues that carrier has brought up um so that's that's that but um it will have to happen pretty quick because as i mentioned to you september 2021 is right around the corner is the um i just had a question is the um that gigantic lease that neuvon's health signed a couple months ago is that going to have any impact on this project or nope nothing no nothing no well in a good way potentially not from the architecture or the plans standpoint but we did reach out to someone in neuven's to start the discussion about potential relationship with with the academy so we're very interested in finding out what exactly is going there is it are they corporate offices or is it actually going to be a health care facility and if so would that be a better place to move a health and bioscience academy as we try to grow that out right it's like to make sure that the placement and the locations are strategic and that could lend itself so not from a building standpoint but just from a relationship a collaborative relationship so i did get someone to to reach back out to me who's in charge of the move over there and he's forwarded my information to the person who works in that area so i'm excited to hear what they have to say exciting that's very good you had a great working relationship with them too so if you uh if you do needle uh some help getting to a good contact person let us know but um they're totally into that type of stuff uh they would enjoy partnering with you guys yeah that was one of the purposes of being here to permit our youngsters without traveling to have opportunities to to uh to mentor and to observe and that's one of the powerful pieces of this so that that's um that's great but the specs care we'll have to work on you know i know we're working on the conceptual design for the educational outcomes and then the um the structure inside of it is what um we're going to have to come up with in terms of the um the building space the number i think is is it's a secondary school how it flips back and forth will be somewhat flexible um and i think i think the board would be really interested because as we look at middle school i think when we saw this to do it economically we have to have certain numbers otherwise it's very expensive and it doesn't really um make them uh a dent into the middle school so that's the exciting part of it uh doing all of this it'll be a first antonio yes sir i realize we're at the infancy of this project but you you know my background and uh concerns i had up at the clapper ridge high school where cell phone communications inside the building and public safety radio uh penetrating the building uh have you already had something in your design plan for biodirectional amplifiers so uh either the in-school radio system or public fire uh police and fire and public safety will be able to communicate on all the floors you know yeah and um one of the things that just i i just learned about this the other evening al is uh there just was a donation made for a hundred and sixty thousand dollars uh for a um an antenna uh and a communication enhancement uh that was done by the developer and was just approved at the common council the other night um so as you know the west sides had a historic poor communication the communication equipment in that area is very very uh tough not only for fire police and even public works but uh uh yeah that there is uh uh there is a donation that was uh just granted which will help with the entire city's communication system for police and fire um and the other thing i want to mention is we also just signed uh a lease which is a no-cost lease for the police department to have a substation uh only a couple of feet away from the main entrance of where this school will ultimately be uh be have its main entrance so um it is uh it is a really unique situation and when people talk about a city within a city that's really what this is starting to gel up like uh uh so it's it's a wonderful concept and antonio now i just wanted to add that we did just increase the frequencies that we purchased so the number of you know individual frequencies with our radios um we just recently increased so that'll help when we get to the career academy so that people aren't sharing multiple schools aren't sharing the same frequency on their radios and we also have that grant antonio that we're working through with the organization that will eventually roll out to the academy as well to link into the police department and all of the other danbury um radio you know yeah so that will also be another enhancement as we roll the company a few years from now wonderful so um i know while the board's taking in my questions we're going to start i know as i said cara is working on the you know she we all know she went we went visited um um in nashville and uh the career pathways but that and the portrait of a graduate all of that is um uh kind of a kaleidoscope coming together and the pathway academy is part of that um and we're gonna have to come with the uh ed specs and start talking to the board about uh who gets in how do you get in and all of that right that's really gonna be important for you guys that it's opened up so um we'll be coming to board with presentations for that when do you think in terms of a target time i think you may would you like a a proposal for those drafted specs antonio well sal i i would say the earlier can get them to us but we're gonna need at least a month uh to vet them out with you um so you know i would say august uh you know the latest for for draft for a draft copy um yeah yeah i think the board will start working working on it now you know actually because that that we do it uh the board knows when we open get us involved as much as you you like to i mean it worked out really well when we did ellsworth um uh i know it was uh it was a lot of work and we we did we did work a couple nights deep into the night but um you know let us know uh when you have some uh preliminary thoughts together and and we'll gladly jump in with you okay i i just want the board to hear this i know there's another project down the road can you just tell the board because that was sure i'm getting short on time so i got sure so down the road uh one of the other uh um sort of um challenges that uh we found out that we have in danbury is uh sort of with the pre-k uh population um so um right and one of the things that we looked at and came out of the work that we did about a year ago was to possibly consolidate all of the early childhood uh activities and classrooms uh that are needed throughout the district into an early childhood center and um we actually looked at um it was a great plane right great plane yep great plane provided a great opportunity to do what would be an early childhood center we looked at um 16 uh pre-k classrooms uh for that location uh which will allow some uh potential growth too as we move into the future and um uh again this would not be for at least another five or six years uh the beauty of doing that uh early childhood center is that it will allow the board of education to um to get away from the two leases that they currently are in uh so the uh lease avoidance would be mitigated by the construction of this early childhood center and we just started to have preliminary conversations with the state uh on the need for this we figure the earlier we start talking to them the better it is and there's no other school district that's doing more building construction than us so we like to just let them know what our needs are as it advances we can um so 60 pre-k classrooms uh could easily cost us about uh 17 million dollars again that doesn't include escalation uh but it is a very very uh early planning budget uh that we have to work through as we proceed uh through some of the existing projects that we have uh so again that's a very preliminary um look at doing a uh lease avoidant avoidance project uh that that would help the district long term uh with some of their budgets and also consolidating uh this this pre-k program and uh having all the resources in one school antonio question on that would that be an addition to great plane that would be adding 16 classrooms to the building yes yes it would be uh it would be an addition and as you know pre-pre-k classrooms really all need to be sort of on the ground floor and that's what we did we've laid out uh and we know they fit the other beauty of it is i also took that school a couple years and got it off the septic system and actually tied it into a sewer system so that does allow us to be able to really enhance uh the building opportunities at that school okay thanks antonio i realize it's early for that 17 mil but do you have a projected build date on that yeah so the building um i actually have an occupancy date out of uh like 2025 or possibly 2026.

uh and i like model 3 but i wonder about the possibility of having one middle school um if one high school um middle school at the high school instead and that's it thank you um i'll go next i i like two models the first one i like is model four the six through 12. um i like model uh four but i'm concerned about logistics about the that large student body being divided spatially with the six through eight cohorts and the nine through twelve cohorts being able to operate somewhat autonomously um it's not possible to achieve that on campus i would support um changing the model to a sixth um keeping the sixth graders at the elementary school campus and changing it to a seven through twelfth model um what i like about model four is this model um has a wealth of opportunity for programs and electives and investments made to the facility um at these two large campuses and that it concentrates the the student body uh the other model i like is model three the all levels model i like this model um because it allows for um traditional electives um for the students with this all levels 2.0 model model 3 i like a single rebranded high school um set to a four-year phase out allowing the ninth graders to graduate from their closing high school um i also um sorry i scribbled all over my notes um i'd also like to consider the possibility within this model 3 of not simply closing the other middle school i mean sorry high school but instead using that amazing facility for a a single middle school campus so that's model 3.

those 15 to 16 are getting a lot more and better attention than the class of 28. it's just it's it's just the nature of how numbers work certainly i'd like to see more um but i think we're working with the superintendent and assistant superintendent and the board kind of you know putting together you know specific programmatic improvements um you know i think that number um is something we can eventually um over over time uh hopefully start to get down but uh i think our teachers are doing a fantastic job with with what they have and what they're doing so that that would be my take across the board i'm sure they are but the numbers are staggering how many are over the size limit of what they should be sue's point how is this trending over the last few years well now ninth grade is going to have 236 10th grade has 223 kids so your your class sizes are getting bigger so you're you're i'm sorry steve maybe that wasn't your question but yeah no but that that ninth grade class is a bubble class we know that also that was uh that's the biggest class we've had with the big we've been following that bubble class since i've been on the board of ed you know moving teachers following them around and uh it's been hard so uh and it's been that one class i think it was fourth grade when i started you know i'm just concerned that we're losing ground you know we want to hit our goals are we at least staying even or are we getting behind or are we ahead year to year or well see you can see in the k-8 report that that we're within the range uh across the board so you know there's an ebb and flow as we know it every year so so that we're we're good there and it really is year to year it isn't anything different that that dr ruby and mr blanda put together in that annual october report on different class sizes for the grades and so forth and so that that high school report is pretty straightforward mark now has those bubble classes in there so he's bumped up over 900 kids um since his start uh you know gosh six years ago now i believe it's been that long mark um and we've added you know gosh five teachers i think you know we a history of business uh a science uh to to help with that um we're staying on top as best we can in a fiscally responsible manner and you know we're always on top of it we bring it to you folks and have those conversations and i just want to add in that things could get um we we may have to get very creative mark you might be better verse to talk about this because of the um impending changes in graduation requirements and the um the move towards uh in the state and across the country and this was also spoken at the today uh in the congressional um nomination uh procedures about the um the need in this country for um stronger cte programming and um the in connecticut there's there's going to be um a demand for us taking the new graduation requirements and having pathways for uh students to have options and then that's where we're going to have to sit down and start looking at the staffing and also the program offerings in order to be able to be in compliance with the graduation requirements that have now expanded the opportunity for students to get interested in um things that have to do with college and career at an earlier level as they enter into high school and also be able to ha have more um flexibility in the courses that they take because the requirements aren't going to be are not designed the same way that they were when all of us in this room went to high school it's not you know this many credits of this it's uh this many credits of a grouping of courses that's much larger and that the students can um have a better selection so i don't know mark if you want to add to that because that's that's a horizon thing we're going to be facing that yeah i'll be quick and just to kind of step back to mr dunn's question to steve's question about you know losing ground are we losing ground these numbers are so high i can tell you every time i you know the numbers do pair out so if we add a teacher let's say in the business department right the ability for us to you know now offer of course like personal finance as a graduation requirement for every student we can now do that um and also opens up some of the other electives that we're able to give so those class sizes have gone have they're they're at max and we could probably use more but i i i shudder to even think of what we were like when we had one business teacher when i started across the board and could only teach five classes um you know so we have certainly seen decreases in class sizes in those particular areas um you know science is one of those unique ones that because of osha and some lab requirements some lab sciences can only be 24 and no more than that um you know so that's that's helpful but then um you know we saw an increase you know when i started in terms of needing for reading intervention so we're able to break make some of those classes smaller um but yeah cte is huge and this that's one of the requests i put the technology request for the teacher last year um you know because that is a big step in terms of cte i think you know rosa did a great job explaining some of the courses that we'd be able to offer and really expand uh for our kids um you know we're looking at introducing even a programming course next year that we haven't decided whether it's an open source python program that we're looking to add that whether it goes through technology or goes to the math department one or the other um you know it'd be great to have kids have that opportunity to have a coding class um you know that's a small step in the right direction but it's the step we're taking we see that the that it's coming down the pike um and will continue to be more and more important um you know as we look to the state continues to always adjust their graduation requirements what categories how many sorts of things they've changed things in the last couple years so that you know the classic you needed um four credits of english and four credits of math and four credits of this they now put them in very broad categories you need nine stem credits you need nine humanities credits it's all changed it used to be from you know when we were here even when i started it was specific english social studies math science they've really allowed some more flexibility and allowed kids to to explore a little bit more and so to respond to that need you know some of these expansions in the elective areas are going to be really important so for the public that's listening can you define cte yeah so c cte is career and technical education um you know so right now we have a teacher um who teaches who's our technology teacher um cte also counts as business right so uh that's that career piece um and the technical piece and we also have a a family and consumer science teacher who does uh the culinary program so those three generally it's usually um business and marketing courses technology courses and then um you know uh the culinary courses and also human growth and development you know which is interesting you know the the number of kids that we're looking at that are looking to go into um whether it be a child care or perhaps early childhood education program we actually have a child development course that we offer the school but with only one teacher you know it's very hard to run a total number of sections we will get there you know it is it is a plan and sometimes i feel like we're trudging along but everybody's been great in supporting our efforts to move forward great thank you very much anybody have any further questions on operating i'm good oh are we going over capital tonight rosa this whole time sorry uh yeah so eric could you um pull up the capital slide great um so what you have here is uh our proposed capital improvement plan um some of these uh you'll see and actually the facilities uh subcommittee just met uh tonight so we can talk about probably the biggest uh one that's gonna pop out at you um but they're prioritized here um replacing the guidance wing roof rooftop ac unit uh at wisconsin replacing the original electric service at the high school plumbing and fixtures equipment at wisconsin building management systems at the high school we have we have funds allocated here for the additional design funding for the boys locker room as well as the actual renovation itself with skinnier replacing the seminar room seating that was something that just kind of came up this year it wasn't on previous capital improvement plans at the high school replacing exterior windows and doors with the security film and replacing library air conditioning and paving in concrete both at the high school and wisconir as well as the replacement of a maintenance vehicle can i ask a question um you're very detailed in the cost of what the renovation for the boys locker room is going to be but we have additional design that you're looking to do so i'm just curious how can you come up with a number if you're still doing a design or am i just reading this wrong so and please anybody from uh facilities can jump in and correct me here but we had from tecton the estimate for the renovation itself but the design uh to get it to that point um because we're going to have to rework it is that additional 35 000.