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this year unless you'd like to change something we can do that it's like tuesday now on tuesday do you want to keep it at six or five thirty or do we think that's still a great time at this point that we've uh some people had our hurdle 530 that couldn't hopefully we'll have some more in the person folks coming i don't know i'm good whether any other comments or concerns on the uh the dates award dates for the remainder of the year go ahead to next year as well anybody online have any comments okay see that i'll entertain a motion to approve those dates mr hillary yes yes thank you watching passes hard to believe that we're headed for so as we alluded in our reports busy busy month of february um aspa bolts training is february 12th and mr ollery miss allen monique and i will be attending the virtual goals training other than that board retreat is february 22nd but i believe we might be changing that date uh i thought i saw something about the schedule for next year or is that something we need to put on the schedule it'll be in our next board meeting so i did mention it okay um no i i got one of those the reports from the map as i write um it is very interesting is it shows the you know where they're at compared to cohorts and the state and the part that i was really interested in was the improvement then it also shows i guess the software smart enough to show how much they're guessing so my child one of them was a little higher but the other ones were pretty good so i'm really interested to see the final one at the end of the year you know just and it's been such a crazy year um and i do commend you guys and support what we're doing here and the community members that i talk to in out there a lot of them are just like in all some very few think we're crazy but they don't understand because once i explain they're like oh okay um so that's that's pretty much where i'm coming from so you know you know we support you and um yeah i'm looking forward to the bolts training again i think it'll be worthwhile um just to emphasize again what mr osterly just said again kudos to our staff and teachers for keeping this school open it's incredibly important and i think actually some of our politicians at the state and the national level are also beginning to recognize that the kids need to be in class and so congratulations to continental i proudly talk about continental when people say we don't think we can open i saw them call continental miss keith you're on the floor well again my my congratulations to the exceptional job that we've done it's all based on the foundation of having put together an excellent continuity of operations plan that was well-founded and has played well for the school it is important for not only superintendent rico and her staff but also to the board to recognize that continental elementary school district is talked about in these political circles as the school that can and the school that did so i think it's really important to know that we have set an example and so congratulations to all of these fine jobs reached out to me to find ways that they can help our school and be involved and it's not just too much that they can do right now since they can't be on campus but um and just to just maybe sharing with them our our teachers wish list during their scholastic book center and they loved that idea they would be happy to purchase some those wishlist items for our teachers in our classrooms and any other way that the state should help us and support our teachers right now and um and our students so um i'd be happy to speak with an event if anyone has any other areas in green now they're very very proud of what we're doing here great thank you thank you i uh i think it's been said that i'm very very proud of each and every one of you it's a what an interesting year it's been so far i mean that's not the best way to describe it and you guys have stepped up to the plate very very proud of you keep pushing forward and slowly and cautiously and we're gonna get it done and it's because of all of your efforts so thank you very very much it's very much appreciated and one thing i wanted to say is just about every time i walk into this building i hear something something new that someone in green valley has offered in some way to help cut the school and i cannot tell you how appreciative we are of such a great community whether it's time or materials or technology or whatever it may be we have an amazing community and we're very very grateful for you so uh i just want to say thank you and uh it's very much appreciated and we will continue to do the best again and we will move forward and have a successful year and i think by the uh by the time may rolls around we're all gonna look back and say you know what it was worth it because the rest of the state is gonna be spinning retire so to speak and we're gonna accomplish something so um good job thank you thank you if you can please check your calendars for friday march 5th for a possible retreat dates we have um miss can attend and mr obama who can as well so we are trying to look at friday march 5th from nine to two so please let us know if that will work and we will continue to work on origin and getting the information out but we really are going to work hard on our strategic plan for our two to three year strategic plan as we look at our action items that we that we have in the past okay anything else anything we have some uh documents to sign up okay recess for trump thank you [Music] oh
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now off the hand i don't think there is but i'll have to we'll double check well it also says you're we we're supposed to cross reference 6 colon 40 and 6 colon 255.
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some of these are in progress some of these are already approved sf would mean single-family homes and db would be doubles or th meaning down so compiling that information basically it gets us to approximately eight thousand single-family lots that could be built assuming that the entire township was built out of course there was room left for parks there's commercial zoning that's not included in this and other areas of the district that wouldn't be included we're just focusing on residential there is an assumption here of 80 homes for 40 acres so if you made a change in that assumption that could go a little bit higher or a little bit lower than the 8 000 estimate what i think is really important here however in particular for enrollment which is what we're talking about is what is the impact on enrollment is it's not just the level of building it's also the pace or timing of building for instance the impact of 8 000 homes in 10 years is huge compared to the impact of 8 000 homes in 15 or 20 years and that's largely because you already have students who are in your schools or about to be in your schools because they're preschool aged and when that building occurs faster it really has a significant impact on enrollment than compared to when a building occurs much more slowly okay so in my mind it's just not the level here that we're talking about it's also the speed and the speed is what really um drives enrollment so that's the first thing i wanted to chat about today so that was the first agenda item the second agenda item is to talk about an update to the enrollment forecast the last time i did this for you all it was 2018 and when we did that and and some things have changed um one of the things that has changed is we did that forecast uh for 10 years and since then births are actually going down yet housing has gone up and those two things have impacts on enrollment in different ways fewer births means maybe elementary school enrollment might not be as high as we would expect but more housing you'd actually anticipate that your enrollment score would grow up would go up in advanced grade levels so the enrollment the forecast is basically being redone with these new data and the new patterns that we are currently seeing um also additional thing that we we've done and this is the first time we did that this is the new piece is we're extrapolating the data so that we had a 20-year look into the future and you know the idea here with an extrapolation is just basically saying okay we've got a forecast we've got data from the previous 10 years and now what if what if that trend continued into the future what does that mean and particularly here for the activity that we're trying to do or the question we're trying to answer what does that what would enrollments look like if 8 000 homes were built out okay so that's really that second piece that we haven't done before that we're going to do with the forecast so you've seen this graphic before or this was our 2018 enrollment forecast and i bring this up just to kind of highlight some things uh when we're doing the forecast one is we have this apologies for this touchy mouse um we we have this solid line and we have the previous 10 years which is actual data and we have the future 10 years and we don't quite know exactly what the future is going to bring or the future is going to be but we can make some reasonable reasonable assumptions and then see what enrollments would be so we've seen this before and that solid line going into the future 2018 forward is what we often call our base forecast and then we have a range around that high or low based on both birth assumptions as well as housing assumptions now where are we right now with regard to the forecast currently actual enrollment is just a little bit higher than what the forecast was there were some differences though enrollment was higher at high school levels and lower particularly at kindergarten level but overall on a total basis the forecasts did pretty good even in this covid times but there were differences at grade level the other things that we do know that's going on is burst births are different so in the year um 2017 we had 1700 births for hendricks county residents all right so these are moms who actually reside in the county and this is the lowest level of geography also that we can get this data and at that point in time when we did the forecast with 2017 births we actually expected that burst would continue to go up and actually they haven't so this is burst for 2018 2019 and that's that solid line bursts have actually declined somewhat since then all right so an assumption is reasonable assumptions well what's going to happen in the future and if you look at this history of births here now we have 12 years of births very unlikely if history is any marker on the future that it would would go back to the peak numbers this was the highest number 2007.
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so that that's a little internal wrestling match we're having is as we're making that determination about an instructional model how do we couple that with decisions around close contact tracing and then quarantining the number of days of quarantines for those people who who are identified as close contact so i as you mentioned that through the slide up here which is my last slide i think go ahead and ask a question so for me the challenge of the stuff is the tests because we all know there are so many families and students that rely on the schools to feed them to take care of them so i have to infer from that yes that we're also the health care if you will for them so i have i i have no sense about are is testing in the community free yes okay so so perhaps the best resource i i think i like the idea of it going to the community health department rather than are assuming that because there's a part of me that's we have families that they won't get tested because they'll only come to school but if the resources at the health department okay i i respect that struggle i don't i don't think i get the thing about using them for staff at the bottom like i think they just go to our clinic instead of the school's starting to do that there was at least an initial thought that that if not doing for students perhaps we could at least do them for staff and so that's a little bit easier um that to do but there's some even hesitation on that for a couple of different reasons so we're right we're i mean we've absorbed a lot of responsibility i'm not sure as a corporation we want that one too yeah we just and i don't know that it happens but you try to consider every situation and and right now we're just trying to get people to stay at home with symptoms they were still trying to get ahead of this our per capita rates still over 30.
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we had 255 students out of our 306th 9th graders this year take the assessment that's 83 a little lower than we typically have and the average score for our students was 486 and the math benchmark is 450 and their average score was 472 so and a nice uh you know nicely exceeding benchmark in the oh i think i passed over grade 10 in grade 10 we had 313 students out of the 326 taking the assessment 96 of class evidence-based reading and writing benchmark at that grade level is 30 and our students earned on as an average 513 and the math benchmark is 480 and they earned a 484 as an average score and then in grade 11 345 students out of 371 so that's 93 percent of our population the evidence-based reading and writing bench is 460. they scored 532 is the average score math benchmark 510 and they were a little below with a math average score of 492.
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that's it it looks like for 2022 it's february 21. later february 21. yeah good catch thank you money mainland mlk day so we just put the green square in wrong box and you can make that you can make the motion with that adjustment pending approval with negotiations motion to approve the 21-22 calendar draft one with the exception of moving the february date to the 20th february 21st of the day subject to final ratification of the employment contract with beta second while those in favor are opposed vote mike past 7-0 executive session regarding negotiations the emotion has disappeared how much time we need 20 minutes negotiations under coma and to return to open session in this room at the end of that time including craigslist matt springs stacy dave watkins and lindsey graf okay all those in favor or opposed to vote well you're not going to be able to because mine isn't going to refresh so you're going to have to go down mike i and i have to take the responsibility for that this emotion disappearing because i changed it to a discussion of an action item so that caused so okay what i will uh i just knocked them one minute okay i will bring the camera [Music] you can't see it from here [Music] big okay debriefing meeting [Music] and i think everybody took the art walk i think i mentioned that to you all so you had a chance to see the artwork
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this past week we had five days of less than 50 cases in the quad in the quad city area so that includes mayor dewey prescott valley prescott chino valley polder that's the areas that i i select and humbles in there so you can see according to the county health department the numbers are decreasing significantly as well i do want to point out even going down on the state benchmarks which these are numbers that the state put together based on science these numbers are still considered in a substantial risk range according to the state the other thing i want to mention is someone someone mentioned one of the parents uh mentioned that about the cdc it there wasn't a cdc report the cdc is supposed to come out with some guidance this week there was some cdc scientists that put out some information and an article that i shared with you last week that said that the headline was kids could go back to school safely what was not in the headline was what are the conditions that need to be met in order for kids to go back to school safely there's really four things one is masks which we do one is sanitation which we do one is distance social distancing which we cannot do social distancing when all the kids are back in school 100 it's much easier to do social distancing when we have a hybrid schedule and the fourth one is that the community is doing all those things as well and i'll let you decide on i'll i'd that's that's something that you need to decide if the community is using mass social distancing and things like that those were the four qualifiers that needed to be taking place in order for kids according to this article and according to the cdc scientists where kids could go back into school safely it's difficult um i've been in classrooms when we were all in person in october and part of november there is no social distance in one or all in school in the classrooms it's just impossible so questions about those like i brought up three things uh the the two sets of data along with the article any questions or comments so far well i just have a comment about the social distancing i mean i went out to dinner last week and there was a group of junior high or sorry junior and senior in high school they're watching football and there's like 12 of them watching football at a restaurant so the keeping them they're not social distancing now i'm just going to tell you that but i think that we should get our kids back in school are we voting on this i'm going to have a recommendation in just a second oh i just didn't know what that plan was so go ahead no continue on or are there more questions right now because there's going to be much discussion i'm sure yeah so based on the based on the information that we have based on the benchmarks the recommendation there's a couple recommendations one is from the district nurse based on a health a a strictly not any discussion or consideration for anything else other than health the district nurse says that the best plan right now or her recommendation is for a hybrid instruction after a discussion discussing this in our district leadership team meeting last tuesday the recommendation from administration is pre-k 12 hybrid instruction i agree with i i i agree with what ms deangelo said i agree mostly with what the parents are saying um we do need kids back in school when we were at these numbers in in november my concern at that time was are we gonna have the kids are we gonna have a staff to actually supervise kids safely that was a concern i don't want to get into and what i'm seeing in some businesses in the community um there's a restaurant in prescott that is closed they were open they've been closed they've been open they've been closed because of covet issues and their staff it's easier to do that back and forth when you're a business not when you're dealing with 2 400 kids 300 employees and families that are that are looking for consistent consistency going back and forth i think is is not a good thing and i'm afraid that if we go if we go too far then we may have to back up before things you know before we finish the year my goal is to get kids back in school at some point i'm hoping that things are or 100 back in school i'm hoping that by the next board meeting we'll have some additional information we'll have the cdc guidance that's coming out this week in addition we'll have some more data and making sure that those numbers continue to go down i've always been a firm believer and again if you know my background in rodeo in the western industry i've always been a firm believer that you ride for your brand and since i have been a part of china valley school district i've always pushed chino if you're a teacher here i think your kids need to go here if you're a district employee i think your kid that you should your children should be involved in this district i've kept my children in this district as of tomorrow my junior will be transferred out of this district i have to do what is best for him and this is no longer the scenario for him i am keeping my younger ones here but as of right now tomorrow my junior gets transferred i am doing what is best for what what is best for my child i hate to see other people take their kids out of our district there are these huge schools in phoenix that are sending their kids to school that have three times as many kids that we have education is the most important thing i had a parent tell me the other day that her 13 year old son told her mom i have not learned anything this year we are failing our children we our teachers have the opportunity to get the shot right now if they choose to get the shot that's them if they don't that's on them too i work for a doctor's office i wasn't raised in a way my parents didn't want me to get the shot that's a whole nother thing i had two super bad reactions i just got my second one the other day i didn't want i'm doing what i can and to doing my part i expect other people to do it too to me teachers are essential we are filling our kids they are not learning they need to be in school full time and even though my son is being transferred out of this district tomorrow which kills me because i would he's been in here since he was in kindergarten i've my oldest graduated from china valley high school this is not a fun thing for me but like i said i have to do what's best for him we need to have these kids in school peter please well i have a couple comments i'm going to make but john do you have the final numbers of our staff that got the vaccine during our first run so between the number of students or sorry staff members that received shots along with those that have had colbit that we're not eligible but there's there's some um you know they have the antibodies to help protect them for at least a limited amount of time we have about 60 of our staff members in those two groups [Music] just just thinking thinking about how loud i think we've all read dr fausch's recommendations for one night i said to john basically he was saying k through eight he's recommending in in-person learning with the projects that that john has mentioned um the more i think about it you know we've had the peaks and we're now going on on the downhill side personally as our vaccines continue to ramp up i think that this peak i've got my fingers crosses all of us will continue to go down as we build towards her immunity so that's one consideration two everything i've read to say the youngest of our kids have the least risk of catching the virus that's and i'll just say k-2-8 are our least risk-repaired risk i don't if this board in the past has concerned convinced concerned about the staff because they're the most vulnerable population but i'm glad to hear that we've now got at least six percent of the staff i'm disappointed it wasn't a hundred percent but at least we have 60 percent of our of our staff you know has has gotten their first vaccine shot and i resume that second sixty percent or forty percent plus the ones that have had it uh or fifty percent plus the ones that have had it will get the second shot so the more i think about it the more i'm leaning to asking if we could consider doing the k through eight back in person and going with the blended model for the high school opening you know overnight for uh for the blended model for the high school um maybe i'm too optimistic but the signs that i'm seeing are saying that we are finally past the worst of it it's not going to be out of here for a long time but one i think elementary kids need that in person learning more than any of our kids two our staff is to a good degree getting the vaccine which is where my real concern is and three uh even some of the national experts are now saying it's time to refit opening up keith k08 so just thoughts on on my card kenny so peter i'm really interested in what you're saying why not high school if you remember from our discussion last month the exposure of the teachers to all the high school kids is far greater than it is in the elementary school basically one teacher is only exposed to you know they're 20 or 30 kids so i think that that one the danger to the kids is greater the ability to do social distancing i'm going to guess and maybe we need to hear but i think it may be more difficult at the high school level than it is to force it or oversee it than it is at the elementary levels so that's my number two concern and uh three i just i guess i would feel a little more comfortable once all the numbers that john has showed us are one tier lower uh than than they are now i mean all the other things i was saying are perfectly valid it's just that uh the infection rate is lower with with younger kids and the exposure is greater with the older kids do you have additional comments i i do want to comment go ahead yeah i think we should really think about um offering opening up all the schools to in person um with the option to do hybrid if the parents choose i think it's the truth i think it's the parents choice i agree i'm with you on the parents i do because i i i don't want to be that school that i mean these kids are they are suffering and we're hearing more and more about depression and suicide and i just don't want that on my head can i can i make a comment real quick i don't know if it's possible to do both all in and hybrid at the same time it's it's the same teachers teaching that and if you want to continue a lesson over four days those kids that are hybrid only get two days of that same lesson versus those that are all in person so the reason i said that is because of the problem with social distancing at the high school level that you pointed out right but they would still have options of online that's true correct yeah okay i think i say yeah i i think that we give i mean i agree with you penny we our kids are suffering and i read article the other day about younger children even being depressed that they didn't even realize that they were depressed because they obviously don't know because they haven't dealt with it i think we open up the schools and give parents the option of whether or not they want to send their kids to school or not mike may we hear your opinion please so one of the perspectives i i'm not disagreeing with anything that's been said so far but one of the perspectives that hasn't been brought to the room anywhere that i can tell is that 75 percent of all school districts in the state of arizona are doing something other than in person so this notion that our kids are the only ones that are suffering um is is erroneous okay that we're the only school in that um yes we want to be proud of our school and bring back cougar pride and everyone to have that vast majority of people in the state of arizona are all experiencing that same thing it's not us so um i just wanted to add that to what we're talking about i also think peter that the way in which the various levels of schools function middle school and high school is most similar it's very difficult to cohort 8th graders 7th graders 6th graders because they are also moving from math teacher to a social studies teacher to et cetera it's much like high school so i'm not sure that i just question whether or not your structure of k your thought of k8 is appropriate um so at any rate that's well am i to be honest with you part of the reason i was suggesting all the way up to the eighth grade was that was in dr fauci's recommendation going k-8 in person learning now you're absolutely correct you know the middle schools have you know very similar structure but again we're going all the way down to fifth grade [Music] it's a it's a policy decision i'm not going to argue with you at all if we decide to go everybody open all right if we decide k-8 open uh the rest of the blend you know either one i think we need to change from where we are right right now so before we have much more discussion i also have some thoughts mine are more personal rather than policy or statistics or anything else and because i can be emotional i wrote mine out in the past six months we have been accused of not caring not putting students first that we are out of touch and that we should be ashamed of ourselves i can only speak for myself when i say that the past few months have been the most difficult of my life and that includes agonizing over decisions making decision making for my own children struggling as young married persons and now as old married people trying to juggle a family and school and successfully running five departments at work i have lost sleep i have cried and i too have been sad lonely and depressed i do not say any of this to try and get sympathy i say this to show that this decisions made here on this dais are not made on a whim or taken lightly at all my heart is breaking whether you believe it or not we care 100 for our students and our teachers and staff otherwise seriously we'd be doing something else i don't know how i will vote if a vote is put before us tonight both my heart and mind are torn into two pieces as a parent of a sophomore myself i feel for the parents as a working professional i feel for all the teachers and staff and as a community member i feel it is time to come together and stop by stop the blaming and finger-pointing and start the healing no matter the outcome of our decisions tonight with that i think we need some solid emotions or some more discussion as to what those solid motions will be um with that said i just want to to let you know i don't feel like we're the only school well our children aren't the only ones suffering i i don't know where that came from but i wasn't saying that our children were the only ones suffering the whole united states everybody is suffering and i don't i don't want you to think that oh i was just saying that our children are suffering i totally love that you just wrote that note i have gotten hate emails i've got nice emails i've gotten this is just brought out a whole different thing people need to realize us sitting up here we volunteer our time and this has not been the funnest thing that i've ever been involved in and we've been dealt a pretty tough card i mean anybody that is on the school board i think right now has been dealt a tough card but our main focus is education and our main focus is our children and i would like to make a motion that we put our children back to back in school and we give parents the option if they'd like to keep their children at home that can fall back into school full-time full-time in person full time in person full time give parents the option if parents don't want to send their children leave that up to the parents but give our these kids the opportunity to be in school can i make a quick comment any motion that that's made if we could put a date on that so that this is not something no matter what changes we can't do this tomorrow right so so if we could get a date out there um we have um monday is a holiday of next week okay give us some scenarios john so the 16th i think is what we're thinking for hybrid or in person or but whatever the change is no earlier than this no matter what decision we make right no earlier than the 16th would be good okay so there is a motion on the floor i'll second that motion so i was so if i may made the motion i would make it that on february 16th china valley unified school district would go back into in-person instruction and give the parents the option of whether or not they'd like to send their children to school or not annie could you say k-12 just so it's very clear 12 in personal instruction i'd like a roll call for the vote this evening please so all right i'm going to say that on february 16th china valley unified school district would go back to in-person instruction pre-k through 12 giving the parents option to keep their children at home or not okay motion is on the floor okay yes yes annie yes mike motion passes good night that's it that's it you
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to make sure they're all aligned they help with implementing this policy yeah all right so that was one i wanted to point out in that group any others that you all had any questions on it's funny that you guys thought was as soon as i saw it all right i'm going to jump into item b then the approve the volo annexation term sheet in your packet you have the exhibit 13 and i'm just going to work through that if we need it on the screen let me know so i wrote a memo to the board in the packet exhibit 13.
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that was the peak number of births that occurred in the county now one thing that is not here is uh covet babies matter of fact one thing that's not here is even 20 20 births all right so um 20 20 burgers will not be available until may of this year and 2021 which would be coveted babies right children that were conceived during covet that data is not even yet available those children are newborns right they're just starting to be born so um what we know and what we anticipate is that during covid years we're actually going to see fewer births and the reason why is because it's very uncertain times as well as we have high unemployment and during high unemployment births tend to go down during good economic times births tend to go up so that's what we would anticipate also based on current times that data as soon as we're going to have data on covid babies would actually be may okay what else do we have going on is permitting now you have seen this graphic before what's different about it i i actually added a couple years so we're going all the way back to 000 so we're seeing a snapshot of 21 years of single family permitting in hendricks county and you can see at the beginning of the turn of the century right so the heavy building years it's 2000 all the way to about 2005 were peak building years um those numbers came down and they bottomed out about 2010 2011 and burst i mean sorry um permits have since gone up uh what is new is permits are not only not only high last year historically we're approaching high levels this year all right so in 2020 the numbers at least countywide appear to be very comparable to 2006.
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and we were having a heck of a lot of debates about 10 back in in august and it's over 30. and so as we still work to manage that something that might encourage somebody to come to school with symptoms just to this to just then be tested there i i don't know that's what would happen but um it might and and no yes it will particularly i'm giving i'm giving everybody the benefit of the doubt i respect we just have so many families that don't have the resources or somebody has to take time off work and they don't get the time off so it could be it could be me i mean you know if if i'm not quite feeling well i have a few symptoms it could be you know i need to to get some things done i want to go in and kelly can give me the test and i'll know whether i'm positive or negative it sounds simple enough right you you show up i go straight to kelly's office and i get tested at seven o'clock in the morning and if i'm negative i can i can stay at school the rest of the day i don't know that we want to get into that kind of decision making process so there are some some protocols we have to put in place if we do it regardless right whether it's for students or staff some very specific protocols as to how this would be used and to try to eliminate too much discretion at individual buildings as to who would who and how and when that would be done but we are that's an important component all right all right thank you knew this would all generate a lot of we thought that this coveted 19 update would be relatively simple until the governor's press conference last wednesday and when that list of things came out that changed uh you know at least where we might be and maybe nothing ended up and it ends up changing too much but all things to very seriously ponder and work through and see how it could help us achieve our our ultimate objective which is having kids in our buildings five days a week and staying here uh as much as they possibly can um i should add to that week not adding to the spread of coping 19.
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so part of what we look at is you know how did they do in each year just isolated but also because we have these tests we can then begin to look at cohorts so our just to take a look at our our juniors who will be taking the sat um when you compare their psat score so they're so last year's performance to this year's similar number of test acres 348 last year 345 this year and last year on their grade 10 assessment 508 was the average score this year it was 532 on evidence-based reading and writing showing an increase in 24 points the math average score 471 in their the grade 10 492 grade 11 with an increase of 21 points and that significant uh because i looked back at uh what what are the average increases in our derg you know are we are our kids increasing at the same pace as other kids uh how do these scores look um kind of across our our comparative group group of schools and the average increase from grades 10 to 11 and i was able to look at comparative data only for 20 19 2019 2020 data they don't of course the current data isn't in isn't uploaded in the um state system yet so when i looked at that at chs our average increase from grades 10 to 11 was roughly 38 points and the derivative was 35 so our our increase is is a little bit ahead of we're increasing more from one test to the next and in math 35 points the durg average is 30 and then interestingly from the psat 10 to the sat11 so psat 10 remember is given in october the the the psat 11 is given in october and then the 11s take the sat just just uh you know half a year later in march or april and at chs the average increase for evidence-based reading and writing from psat 10 to 11 is 73 points math 96 and it's so it's ahead of the dirk the dirk average in terms of are the gains that our students are making um as they take the assessment so overall uh our our next steps really just just to give you a short overview of of our psat results our next steps are really to look at uh do a deeper dive into college and career readiness around individual groups how can we support teachers uh to ensure that students who are right or close to make meeting benchmark or just behind what can we do in instruction to really move all students to be sure that they're making those gains across the board so that is the long and the short of our psat results from this year a little bit of comparative information blended in so i'd be happy to answer any of your questions tony no i i don't have any questions and just uh feedback it's great to see the progression uh especially the year year-over-year um trend that we show between 10 and 11 students progressing in both categories that's huge um i should know this so uh my daughter's junior i know she took the kids he hasn't won if they've taken sats they are taking the sats on march 24th that is the s.a.t school day assessment yeah is there anything um i saw some communications about this a little earlier in january but uh is there any changes to the way sap has been delivered or other changes yeah it's not and and we had wondered would there be some kind of digital component now with the with the ap examples coming up there is going to be a digital component uh so you can and they're they're offering them there's a certain chunk of time when you can do it in person in a certain chunk of time when you can do it digitally and the the college board is dictating that for the advanced placement assessments um but not for this the sat school day and i and i have not heard that either for the sat that's given on saturdays not not the school day uh and we've done in-person administrations for the sat in school and our psats we're all in person okay that's good time you know it's can't believe it's already marches around the corner it's amazing um but but thank you got to get out any feedback i i found this every year as always to see that you know our kids are progressing and um closing that gap i know is there anything that you would do differently to help bump up the the treasure high school math to the to the um average target or below on one grade level i mean is that just basically what you talked about earlier is look at the core of the students and perhaps you know adjusting the curriculum a little bit or focusing on more areas that they improve i mean i i don't know how you target you know that yeah we have a group of math teachers that will be meeting with to talk through okay when you look at the when you look at the uh the problems that that students are confronting if we can drill down into some of those details we don't always get as is as granular a level of feedback as i would you know all of us would love on those assessments so but you can you you can see which areas students demonstrated strengths and which areas they they showed some some individual struggles so teachers in their own classrooms can really target that support and that really is the next level of work is really utilizing the assessments to really in inform instruction and uh that was our work um prior to covet and and we're we're moving you know back into that that arena of of database decision making yeah good well thank you again abigail it's great to see that and for our kids so thank you my pleasure i'm proud of them and did you have a question okay um so i was just um i guess you um dr gaddy just answered this question so where the looking at the the 10th and the 11th grade scores and you see the diminishing well the uh they're just not as strong in terms of how they compare to the benchmarks as as the ninth graders so are you you can at this point identify which concepts the students are having problems and that's that's what you're trying to assess or are you can you begin to see some of them oh yes and i i could let you know what some of those are although it would be likely very different for each individual student i you know but i could certainly give you more information on which areas they're struggling but that's really the instructional piece that teachers need to look at that data and then determine how they're going to gear their instruction and and how they're going to manage you know the different needs within their classes and so that's that's part of that instructional core work that we need to accomplish okay um and so um all right and then these results um and again i how do let me see what am i trying do we see any covet in them i mean is this is there any coveted fallout that we're looking at here i'm seeing a pretty consistent overtime set of scores um these scores are not dissimilar from scores from 2017 to 18.
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i'm going to follow last month you asked me to come up with pros and cons for this and i tried to make this as clear-cut as i could and i had some conversations in the last month with i've met with volvo's administrators i've met with our file fire marshal i've talked to the company that does our fire suppression systems and i also met with our one of our attorneys in in the hodges louisiana not the one that i typically deal with one that specializes in this kind of thing so um obviously the pros access to public water supply is a big one uh you know wells don't last forever improved water quality the third bull is something i haven't brought up to you all but i didn't didn't really think about it initially but uh with it and i'm going to just read it verbatim here with the new water main construction volvo will establish redundancy looping in their system if the main is broken in one location they'll be able to loop the resource to assure we would still have water supply so right now like where vivian lives they have water supply coming up route 12 to feed that if that broke vivian would be out of water they're looping it up they're looping they're going up fish lake and down mould or so they have a loop so if it breaks on 12 they can re-loop it and she still has water so if you remember last year we had an issue we had to shut campus down for at least a day because they broke the uh the guys doing construction for solar broke the power to the well pump and that well pump is our lifeline with water here if that well pump goes down we have no water and we can't have school so there'll be looping in the system that if the water does go down we have we'll have water if it goes down in one area we still have it uh fire suppression improvements um obviously we talked about this last month and i was i was correcting that those hydrants are not functional hydrants they are hooked up to our well but they they would the well would not be able to keep up with the what they need from the hydrant so when they built the campus i'm very appreciative of the fact that they did build it with the thinking that someday there'd be connection to public water supply because the piping is in place so we're not going to be ripping up the campus to install all this it's uh from from over on the other side of primer elementary to all the way to the middle school it looks like we are good to go and all the hydrants are in place so by completing this during the construction phase they're going to be the costs will be lower and as part of the current annexation agreement the village has agreed to waive connection fees i didn't get a cost on what that savings is but our engineer told us that was significant so um the village has also given us the opportunity to finance it through their loan that they have it's a low interest government loan that they're using i don't know if necessary need to do that but the options there if we wanted to so roughly a two hundred thousand dollar cost so that when you get down to the cons here i guess the cost of construction is one of them two hundred thousand dollars rough estimate um again we could finance that over five years six years uh whatever we wanted to do with them but we could also just pay it right away to save us interest money there is going to there could be some cost associated with the current fire suppression systems although the guy told me last week i talked to him again you know last month i showed you where the pits are the pit in here he told me he's like your system is built for that to draw water out of that pit and he goes he says his recommendation would be we just keep the pits the same and though you're just going to fill that pit with the fresh water supply and don't change anything that was his recommendation he goes we could change it if you want but your whole system is built or to pull out of that pit and he said it's really not a problem so we can talk about that further once we get into this but his recommendation was keep it annual water cost is a con i guess because we right now we're not paying for water so there's a this was a hard estimate because we don't have a really good we just installed a system that's measuring our water uh usage and that's not even going to be accurate right now because we're not fully in session so it's i don't have anything to go off of it's really good but uh estimates are around 33 000 a year in water costs uh we'll save about 8 000 in some of the well testing we have to do and the maintenance of the well and then the we buy a lot of bottled water for the building stuff like that so we'll save a little bit but but we're going to have some water costs the attorney i have a paragraph in there the attorney was stating that his big issue was making sure that we didn't get ourselves into a zoning issue and so he talked to their attorneys and they got it worked out to make sure that basically we are grandfathered in uh we will be grandfathered and any zoning issues that we might have so um our attorney felt uh very comfortable with the decision to go ahead and uh do it and this this agreement that we would approve tonight is non-binding so we're still not we're basically telling the village volo we are very interested in moving forward so let's continue moving forward and then they they it puts some things and works for them so but it's not binding we can back out if we want to any questions on that so that so then we become volatile illinois instead of single side that that i don't think so no i think nothing changes is to my knowledge i i have to double check on that forty doug bay um i go by like my own house i live in ingleside but i'm actually incorporating a fox lake so i have an eagle side address and i think that's what will happen here i've they have not shared with me any of that will change but um i'll double check though because it's possible that will change but uh i just don't think so i just want to clarify so you're saying right now our current water costs are about eight thousand dollars it's about eight thousand dollars okay yeah that's with uh we have to do some special well testing every year uh we have to do um and we yeah between well testing and some now do they control it said the usage is around 33 000 i i mean you read a lot about this in the paper that the village controls the water bill so is there any i don't know guarantee on the rate or are we going to pay flat rate for so many years or are we does that all come later that negotiation that'll come later yeah because they hate from natalie all right so say we're going to pay x number of gallons to sign up and then year two they jam it up and pay and triple that yeah yeah um because the vote what's the benefit i mean because they say they're not getting they're going to waive their connection fee but they're going to get it back yeah what they're getting right now is a pretty good water customer okay but well that's what yeah yeah i don't i don't think i mean if they if if our rates go up everybody's rate i think it's you know we're just going to be on their system so i don't think they can just say we're going to raise big hollows rates but i can no i'm sure they can't yeah yeah i mean what i would like to know like what is the procedures for raising the water rates and not that we'll have an input but yeah so they can't do it month a month and then they completely screws up the budget and everything else yeah yeah volo has cheaper water rates than all the other surrounding communities they started increasing the fees earlier for the lake michigan water okay so like it's much cheaper than um going to round lake further i'm just saying vola's got to benefit from us doing this i don't know how much or what yeah they got to benefit some wow and then my only my my next my question would be services because the rumor is that they're going to leave lake county sheriff's office and go with wakanda police which completely changes the level of service we would get here yeah i would like to know their answer to that sounds good what do you know how long will the well last i don't because what will be the cost of signing up now versus 10 years from now so i mean are we really gonna you know well it's gonna be cheaper now than it would be but and another thing i thought about too sorry my mic's not working are they going to dig so that they can run water to big hollow or the kids going to be home because there's no water coming here so you know long term is it beneficial to do it now versus waiting until the well goes dry right yeah oh it seems like it's way beneficial to do it now i mean just the water quality yeah do we have to do it then do anything to the well if we go back and go on um no i think um i i'll double check on that for sure but i talked to them a little bit about i'd like to just might as well keep the well activated for any irrigation purposes that we might have but um so yeah we won't have to do any testing water testing with that even if we're just using for irrigation or i don't think so as long as we're not drinking it but i'll i'll double check all that before we do anything but at least we know it's there and we could always tap back into if we had to for some reason i guess but i don't know why we'd have to i don't see us doing a lot of irrigation out here in any way but you know at least it'll be there so tonight it's just a basically a vote to approve to uh basically giving polo our intent to do annexation the final agreements will be coming in the coming months but they need this step done all right can i please have a motion to approve the volo annexation term sheet motion second tiffany but this will be roll call uh oh yeah no yeah just yes yes yes yes yes yes all right item c i'm going to turn over to dr king and dr pittman they're going to do a presentation on some winter map data and desa scores which desa is new to big hollow this year and the recently gathered results can you guys understand that i can't either not at all yeah sounds a little trolly i thought it was in a different language just the qualities not very rating skills [Music] i changed it already [Music] the following is and emotional competencies [Music] relationship skills looks at whether the child demonstrates consistent performance of socially acceptable actions that promote positive connections goal-directed behavior is a child's initiation and persistence of a task as it becomes more difficult in order to reach a goal personal responsibility views whether a child is being careful and reliable with their actions and contributing to a group effort decision making looks at how a child approaches problem solving and finally optimistic thinking measures a child's attitude of confidence hopefulness and positive thinking we receive parent ratings for a total of students a little over 10 of the population rated fell within the at-risk range this means 62 students were observed by parents to demonstrate behaviors that may be considered at risk for exhibiting or developing social emotional problems diving deeper into the data approximately 16 students throughout the district fell at or below the first percentile 363 students fell within the typical range and 160 students demonstrated seo competencies to be a strength looking more grade specific it can be observed the grade levels with higher needs of instruction per building are kindergarten 2nd grade and 7th grade that being said the district would like to ensure that we are using multiple pieces of data to make decisions soon dr king will share how otis our district student data management platform can assist in decision making for individual students first however she will share a brief overview of the district map data they call the winter map results reflect the nationwide trends which indicate that students in grades three through eight performed similarly in reading to stem grade students in 2019 according to winter map data about five to ten percentile points lower in math almost all students in all grade levels demonstrated some learning gains in both reading and math though math was slightly lower on average students scored better than nwea had projected for fall 2020 based on the covet 19 school closures and reading but the projections were more closely aligned for actual math performance in grades four through eight more specific grade level breakdown of data can be found within the board report located in the board packet one of my responsibilities was to develop and provide alignment of district assessments interventions programs and instructional delivery models pre-k through eight utilizing a district student data management platform allows for the most streamlined process while reducing occurrences of errors due to human inconsistencies at the start of the 2021 school year the district had been working with partners for results for the past two school years however the program did not allow for the immediate updates and changes we required when running reports and statistics nor was it an intuitive program to operate this created frustration when pulling and disaggregating data finally and most importantly it did not have the capacity to share out the information with families therefore we explored otis as an option it was one of several other software programs i had examined during an audit only conducted two years ago otis is an educational technology company that provides a learning management system data warehouse and many classroom management tools for k-12 students teachers families and administrators it has won several technology awards of excellence for its ability to integrate standards-based grading centralized teaching and learning in one place disaggregating multiple assessments and communicating to families to celebrate student work through their personal student profile feature otis has many functionalities including but not limited to lesson planning and design templates standards-based grading and rubric templates progress monitoring family access assessment analytics behavior incentives attendance gradebook and more but one of the great features otis provides teachers and administrators is the ability to run report queries based on multiple criteria this feature has been fundamental to develop the development of our district-wide mtss framework in identifying students who are in need of academic or social-emotional support in the form of intervention or acceleration i will now demonstrate how we were able to run various reports within otis so i'm going to actually really briefly walk you through how we ran the reports and if you have any questions specific to some of the data that we can disaggregate or how we're going to look at it or what otis can do eventually on our roadmap i'd be happy to answer that um i am going to uh so i've logged into our district admin otis and what this allows us to do is look at all the buildings all at once and i can sort out specific buildings but really quickly i'm going to show you the way i was able dr pittman and i were able to run the report for the the presentation we just put together last week last couple of weeks so i can build a query i have several that are i'm going to try to do this i'm looking at the screen up there so i have several reports that i've built into this system that were based on criteria for our mtss framework which we'll be sharing more information about that uh throughout the next several board meetings and conversations but so we've built in criteria so i've got several reports that i can easily show you so for example the in the board packet the 10th percentile what it allows us to do it's tricky so is that how you got the 586 students yes we so we have the dashboard that allows us but we just send it right into otis so it's easy for us to pull it up because what i'm going to show you is we said we only want students that meet the 10th percentile and below in math or reading and we want them to hit a certain threshold for desa so we're able to aggregate it like how to sort through any of these it's a little tricky but i can pick different grade levels if i only want to look at one building i can select one building but the beauty and since this is public record i can't show you but it tells me in the seventh grade 18 students meet this profile those students are actually listed at the bottom of this the sheet i could click those students create a group for them and send it to their google classroom and so they'll have interactive activities immediately sent to their sp their space that they don't need to necessarily access otis for it because it will go to their go their otis classroom and the same way we can do that for our um our teachers as well so they can see who those students are so it tells you based upon information you put in what this 72 are but i want to show you really quickly how we build this and this is something similar if you're going to go to the town hall for advanced placement later on this week with the middle school if you're coming on those zoom calls criteria for advanced placement we'll be following the same process i'll be selecting the sites i want to go to so in this particular case what i did was i selected all the buildings and then i select the selected the first criteria let's see so i wanted to see you can see i've got several different assessments in there but i wanted to use map and i wanted to use again i've got data all the way back for back to 2014 the criteria hello the criteria i'm in this case i wanted reading they're overall i could do their writ i could do how long they took that's an interesting report for parents and families if they want to see how quickly their kids move and then for this report we ended up choosing less than or equal to the 10th percentile and then right now you can already see it gave me 163 students in the entire district i can run the report as it shows me right there or i can add criteria and that's exactly what i did there's the and or option and for this case we created an or option so we wanted to see let's see we said again winter math i went to overall percentile anything below equal to 10.
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now this is washington township not countywide but washington township so we're seeing a very similar pattern when we're just looking at the township itself again you've seen this graphic before but i think this is the first time you've seen it where we're just looking at 2 000 and moving forward in 2020 we're looking at home building at about 550 560 single family permits i should say single family permits issued that actually doesn't mean the house is built yet the permit has been issued um and that level has not occurred since 2006. this level of building exceeds what's in the current forecast okay so that's another reason for us to go back and say all right what should the forecast be what should the numbers be what should we be looking at in terms of building and how can we update that forecast and give you the best numbers possible so in terms of the forecast range and what's most reasonable for us to assume you're going to start first with bursts the base forecast assumes that bursts will be fairly steady like that graphic that i showed you but burst could go up so we'll make that the high forecast and burst could actually decline and so we'll make that the low forecast in terms of single family permits uh for the base forecast we're saying that permits will increase to about 700 per year and again right now they're bad about 560.
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so plain of action looking forward um our decision making point is around the corner i guess i didn't actually add that dave did i no i didn't so the next decision point is this thursday um which is the 11th 11th thank you so february 11th and thursday so some kids considerations in trying to think about that so we have our secondary students in a hybrid model spring break is approaching we've been going on a two-week rotation here so if we said oh we're going to stay hybrid for two more weeks all of a sudden we have seven student days until spring break so just an fyi in terms of what we've been doing recently that that gets a little awkward here in terms of just that small number of days than to to pivot and make another decision perhaps secondary students again all the students in grades 7 through 12 have been out of the classroom for about 58 of the time since monday march 23rd and why monday march 23rd that's the monday we didn't come back from spring break and we were out the entire quarter and then we were able to be in school for um a number of days from august 10th to november 6th so not out any and then november 9th through december the 22nd we were already learning i was another 30.
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uh we had some similar you know you know a 508 and a 482 if i'm remembering correctly i have to go back and check my data but you know not dissimilar uh so i'm i'm not seeing why wild swings and i'm also seeing when you compare the cohort where they were when they took the assessment as sophomores correlates to where they grew to when they took the assessment as juniors yeah so they they demonstrated a similar level of growth um as we would expect so is it is it as much growth as we want do we want to see the you know the the the the scores the average score increase absolutely but in terms of um making some movement they they did make movement yeah i is this something that's going to require a whole this may sound extreme but a whole new math program or a new textbooks new um what do you you're speaking of textbooks i think um could probably jump in on some of the work we're doing uh i know that our algebra ii uh team is looking at a new textbook uh looking at resources that best support our students but it's also targeting lessons and targeting support we also have a team of teachers who have been working on infusing their instruction daily with sat and psat related questions so but that's not teaching the test i mean because i know that was a huge concern about no no no these are these are translatable skills this is this is an assessment in time one one day in time of a student's proficiency on specific math concepts and reading and writing concepts that are part of our curriculum and that the college board has determined are critical for it's their measure of how they how the level of success they'll have once they hit college so this is really predictive of college and career readiness and the psat is the preliminary step to the the s.a.t which you know and our sat results um were pretty strong for last year uh and and and so were our advanced placement results so you know these are these are growth measures with the psat and and these these are the measures we can use to then intervene so that when they hit the sat we've we've made we've made some strides okay so answer that question before too you know that we've we've got a new math program a couple of years now at the elementary level we had purchased a new textbook a number of years back and did work really outside of the textbook to align to standards at the middle school that work had begun it was done for algebra one it had been done largely before covid for geometry the next level of work is in that algebra 2 course where not only are they going to be they're currently examining multiple texts to decide on our resource because we are in need of a new text for that course but then this summer during our curriculum institute there'll be a focus on then writing that curriculum for algebra two so i think you're seeing that if we look at multiple years you're seeing that change start at the elementary go to the middle school and now we'll continue that level of work at the high school okay i think ann had a question also um yeah so as you know i couldn't get my colleagues on the board to agree to put a math interventionist in the budget for this for the next year coming up but i'm wondering if we could do such a thing we could use coveted relief money that may be coming our way could we use that first for such positions i'm thinking of both the high school math coach position and i'm thinking also of the elementary technology coaching positions i'm just brainstorming here i should mention that anne because that is a conversation that i was having with vin and jeff last week after a webinar about the use of the new cares new edition of the cares funds act so that is something that we've been talking about and exploring great i'm glad to hear that actually okay thank you okay um any other yeah i guess we're we're good thank you dr gad for that and um thank you okay um and then um the last item is um sel update social emotional learning update yes give me a minute here i'm going to present my screen to you all and can you all see that we can okay thank you so i thought it was important that we sort of circle back to talk about the work that we've been doing on the social emotional learning front you know a few meetings ago we had representatives from cirque who have served as our facilitators here to our curriculum committee meeting so i wanted to sort of put this all together so we can see what it is the district is working on so as you know our two focus areas for the district are complex thinking and social emotional learning and a number of years ago our social emotional learning theory of action was created and so i'll read it for you if the cheshire public schools consciously focuses on the social emotional development of our students then school practices will demonstrate a clear focus on social emotional growth and students will demonstrate self-awareness self-regulation cultural awareness and empathy and i think mostly about the cultural awareness piece of this theory of action i want to talk about social emotional learning and the connection to equity and the connection to our castle standards so everything that we do in cheshire public schools is grounded in the standards whether it's english language arts standards math standards science standards the same is true of our work around developing students social and emotional skills and castle is the collaborative for academic social and emotional learning and tonight i'm going to talk about specifically those standards that you can see are related to equity so the first of the standards is self-awareness integrating personal and social identities identifying personal cultural and linguistic assets and examining prejudices and biases now these are castle specific also under social awareness taking others perspectives identifying diverse social norms including unjust ones understanding influences of organizations and systems on behavior the other two are relationship skills and responsible decision making so we're talking here about demonstrating cultural or cultural competency standing up for others rights learning how to make reasoned judgments after analyzing information data looking at social problems personal problems reflecting on one's role to promote personal family and community well-being evaluating personal interpersonal and community institutional impacts these are some pretty complex skills for kids to learn through through out their school careers so when we talk about equity i like to think of this this picture this graphic on the right hand side of the slide it talks about equality and equity there are a number of um variables to this slide and some show offense and kids not being able to see over the fence and and taking down the fence so that everyone can see no matter what the look so the goal of our work is to address educational disparities right we want to look at ways to foster long-term change that create bias-free environments we want to look at organizational institutional conditions that might manifest themselves in inequity and we want to remove that so as you know and as you heard from our circ trainers we have been engaged um engaging two of our groups through training with circ and one of those is what we've called our group here in in cheshire is our our cspi our cheshire strategic planning initiatives team and that's really our what we refer to here as a district equity leadership team now that group that committee has met four times this year it's made up of teachers from across the district parents from across the district administrators and also some of our non-certified staff our administrative council made up of all of our administrators including our pupil personal services director kevin as our curriculum coordinator all of the building principals all of our assistant principals and our special education supervisors we are not as far along just by the way the calendar happened we've met twice this year we have another meeting coming up the objectives of that circ training you might be curious are about introducing the practice of courageous conversations engaging in reflective discourse on equity on racial equity is specifically in education becoming familiar with key concepts about race and its impact on us personally and collectively and when i talk about um those sorry when i talk about those um courageous conversations uh what i mean about that is learning strategies for systems for our organization of the school system to address racial disparities through effective dialogue and having authentic conversations about this so the outcome of this training will be a equity policy that would be presented to the board for consideration um and also thinking about a transition plan and equity transition plan and so the equity transition plan will have four parts one will be what are the leadership shifts that we might need to make or be aware of as we address these issues the second will be teaching and learning so what are the practices that our teachers need to be aware of what do we need to look at as far as our curriculum and the resources we use in our curriculum the third will be engaging our families in these types of conversations and giving them voice and hearing what they think about this this progress and the other is student voice [Music] when i talk about student voice an example of that is um and mary and maureen can certainly speak to this as well our circ facilitators will be holding virtual meetings with about five percent of the students at cheshire high school to hear more from them about this topic as well and get their feedback and their feelings and that will be done with those facilitators without um a lot of listening ears from uh from any any of our you know teaching staff so that they are able to you know really share things most of which i think will be uh voices that have been heard through the rams against racism group that have already shared with a number of our teachers and administrators so i thought i'd also add some other work that's being done in this area we have partnered with meridian public schools as you know on a couple of venues and they offer an affinity group for their teachers of color and have offered to have our teachers of color present at that as well to join them and that way we can decide whether our teachers would like to have affinity groups here in in our district and affinity groups are just gathering opportunities for people who share a common identity they provide opportunities for people to connect with each other who share the similar aspects of their identity especially in situations where their identity is a minority in in a particular organization so certainly here in cheshire we do not have a lot of teachers of color and so an affinity group we would hope would support them to help us to better reach out to additional minority groups in addition to the dealt that group of parents and student parents and teachers and certain not certified and non-certified staff that are coming together for that training and in addition to our um our leadership team our administrative team we also had the opportunity again through our partnership with meridian public schools to explore racial equity with teacher leaders so meridian had started this work um previous to us and they were working with a facilitator named dr david cormier and they trained some teachers so david and his teachers um came to virtually to our district last last week and the we worked with about 25 teacher leaders elementary middle and high school and our objectives were objectives were to develop a shared meaning of key terms related to racial equity that's important as we're talking about these things that we have a common understanding just of vocabulary we engage in personal reflection and demonstrated an openness to learn and grow in this area and increase our levels of racial consciousness and understand the impact of race and racism as our practice as educators i think one of the most beneficial um the most benefit the most powerful impact of last week was those teachers from meridian who came and talked to our teachers they had first-hand personal experiences that they were able to share i think that was very beneficial to all of us as a group many of you know about our other efforts to recruit and hire diverse candidates we do advertise in the national minority report we actively recruit through southern connecticut state university we are currently exploiting minority teacher recruitment through the rests aces being the rest near us and we are recruiting at college and university job fairs we had plans to be at a number of those last march and april but due to covid were unable to so we are eager to see what we might be able to do in that area this coming year lastly you've heard us talk about the peck jones grant and helped us to approve that last year we're looking there to incorporate diversity in literature both at our elementary classroom libraries the dodd library the chs library i know that at dodd they have created some social issues book clubs and at the high school our librarian there has done some salons on a number of a number and variety of topics regarding our curriculum we're looking to do an equity audit starting in the elementary with some of our read-alouds and our anchor texts and i know mary has been working with teachers at the high school to do this as well some of that work had started over the summer so what are our next steps with all of this well our first step would be to craft an equity policy for the board's consideration then we would be working on an equity transition plan um we have plans to do equity audits of our curriculum and then just of our physical space developing our school equity leadership team so this year we have a district equity leadership team we'll begin by branching that out we have parents and teachers who are very eager to create those at the school level but we wanted to make sure we had training in order to do that well at this at the school level maybe next starting next year we have a summer book club planned for our administrative team the topic is of the book is unconscious bias in schools a developmental approach to exploring race and racism i particularly like that and know dr gad has read that as well because it really looks at this with a growth mindset not as someone is either racist or they're not but rather along the continuum of what can we learn relative to to race and um and biases that we all have this summer's curriculum writing institute will also along with you know looking to improve our curriculum making sure we look at that with an eye towards equity again making sure that our anchor text etc represent a variety of authors and and perspectives looking continue to look at our hiring and recruiting practices continue to implement responsive classroom to respond to the individual needs of our students and grow their social emotional learning skills we continue to learn about and implement restorative practices at the middle and high school we see that that rams against racism club will continue to run next year you know we have a lot of enthusiasm around that at the high school level and then of course next year our two wonderful teachers don dimeo and aaron griffiths will be teaching the african-american black puerto rican latino studies course and we'll have ample professional development from the state and circ around that to get them ready for that course next year so that was a lot of information in a short period of time but i want to open it up for any questions you might have on our our you know um our efforts thus far and can board members be part of the summer reading group i'm glad you're interested in i am interested it's a great read i have to say that's all i have thank you tony no i was going to uh pay you back to uh ann uh asked us if there's uh i i know uh cave uh i've been attending some of their workshops uh diversity equity inclusion they actually have uh an equity toolkit for boards and uh looking to see there's something that um we could think of angela board get more insight in some of these topics because i know a lot of groundwork and working the trenches those speaks being done through circa those training sessions where they're very tailored to our educators but i don't know the same thing in this toolkit you're showing that more take advantage of my guess is more from a perspective but you know if there's something you like us to read or attend or watch i'd be happy to do so tony it's it's so um interesting to hear you say that because there are a number of my colleagues who have gone through this training with their board of education and i know both david cormier and our facilitators from circ would be more than happy to conduct some training sessions for for us as a board um that would really be beneficial so i'd be happy to look into that further no i agree that's great marley and you know as long as we're not taking seats away from educators i know we have you know 400 plus stands to go through this over uh a period of time but i think it's worthwhile because not the cape stuff isn't helpful it's um you know it's more from a policy i guess approach and i i'd rather you know for members they're interested to get the same feel that our educators are getting so that we actually see and hear and learn well we're actually doing our own district you know if you can so but i can i can really remember who might be interested but i'd love to see that i think it would probably be um very helpful as we look at something as serious as an equity policy that folks had sort of that understanding and mindset as we look at you know particularly the words used in that policy i know adam had brought up something the other day on making sure we all had a common understanding of what some of these terms and things mean and i think that could only help us as we move forward yeah i like to have one source of the definition the truth of this thing so we're also you know we're all as you know there's so much um so many different perspectives and definition interpretations even my inbox i might trust your uh email account i get these uh invites from some so-called diversity resources and groups and it can be so mesmerizing if you're trying to get um a good perspective on this so to extend possible yeah when you have time whenever that is it's checked out you have any time left these days but if you have some things the bush look into i'd be more than happy to talk about the board and see if things could take you out on that but thank you yeah marlene do we have a snow day tomorrow for instance um tomorrow we have a remote school day i think dan's going hey let's use a professional development day and you know we'll uh we'll participate as well right i'm just uh marlene to go back to the the slide with the two committees that you had that you put up i noticed there uh there was no board representation on there and when you had parents you had teachers you had um leadership um why is that well most of our most of our internal committees do not have representation from the board the communication channels are really through all of the different board committees so we bring that information to you through curriculum through policy through what are the other ones personnel okay i just um i i don't know it i i understand that and um but i just was wondering you know we are ultimately the authority over the schools and um even if we're there as listeners more than participants i i just think it would be worth considering um the potential of putting a board person on there um so we could certainly do something like that as we move forward the um the groups that have started are underway so it wouldn't be a good fit but i i think that we could this isn't going to be the last set of training that we have so more opportunities i mean it is just such a vital issue and it is going to shape our schools for decades to come i mean it's going to probably transform our schools and um i i personally um i know i'm new to the game but i think that there's a place for the board there but other than that um i thank you for the presentation it was enlightening and it was good thanks um anyone else have anything to add this is a full meeting for sure uh there's so much good stuff going on it's great to i feel bad for all folks tonight that have these long you all have some very long days as it is and i appreciate you spending time tonight to walk us through all this details is very helpful though so thank you everyone yeah well we're really happy to share it so thank you all yeah i can see the excitement in everybody's eyes that's great they're saying ann's got a birthday cake to get to so um where at the end do i hear emotion to adjourn thank you ann happy birthday and do i hear a second thank you tony favor hi we're good i
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again you'll see up here it changes the field so now it show it clearly it increased because we have more students and for math that hit that threshold but i'm going to add criteria so i'm able now i want to see for dessa it's a whole lot easier when it's on a computer you're familiar with there it is okay then in the report we gave you uh raw score but if i wanted to do by t-score and a t-score again when we were looking for students that were at risk i would say anything with that t-score of less than or equal to a 29 okay let's see i'll actually tell me on the next page let me quickly go up because we got up up up okay so it gives us 246 students meeting those criteria and again i am able to disaggregate by grade school race ethnicity gender and again all of these students however i want to i can take all of these and we have we've created reports off of all these students so we can start targeting specific uh responses to intervention for those particular kids and that would be the same thing we're gonna do with when we have our advanced criteria for cogat we're gonna say or excuse me for advanced dla we're going to say we need a coget score of this i need a map score of this i need a renzoli skill you'll learn about that soon of this and i need a profile of creative abilities for this and odessa and the strong and it will tell us who those students are really quickly and again this allows us to send this information to staff they'll be able to learn how to do it soon we that's not part of our rollout particularly to get them to force them to into it this year because they've got a lot of other things they're learning so we're i'm happy to provide them that information for now but that's on my communication plan and our rollout plan for the over the two years just to ensure that our staff are able to do this because there's functions in here that dr hetrovitz is using related to standards-based grading the gradebook is in here there's so many functions already in here it just makes sense not to it would make sense not to use them all so that's that's a little bit about otis any questions or anything you're wanting to see a little bit about right now from a parent standpoint because they're going to have access to otis and i know you've had some parents test driving it like what if i'm a parent uh what's it gonna look like for me as far as the ease to get to my map data or whatever data yeah so um there is an app so we have actually about 143 families already accessing it so because all everyone in the district has access to it so about 143 i get a report to see how how people are using it and so from the family on the dashboard on their laptop they can see all the reports for the assessments the app is most useful for when we start doing those formative assessments and that's where you'll start because these reports the grade reports aren't on the app that's for the functions of this but they right now they can go in and they can i know that we've talked yeah um and i'm taking that feedback that i get from families like i don't understand this and so that's part of the reason why we're trying to make more video so families can start to like learn about it as it as it rolls out but they have access right now and i i see quite a few families accessing and looking through it and the website is pretty easy so yeah like i said i was doing some research on it and they have a help button they have i mean it's pretty neat so and it's pretty easy so thank you very much appreciate it it's a lot of work going into that we just want to kind of give you a uh a uh sneak peek into that it's gonna be some good work coming as well i just think it'd be really neat like no kids are gonna fall through the cracks yeah you know you'll be able to get advanced and you'll be able to the kids that need extra help and it's just really neat yeah a lot a lot of work has gone into that this year i really appreciate the work they're doing uh my last item is item d the january enrollment update you'll see in exhibit uh just a small change from the fall up four students but we are we're down you know around 100 for the year so with the cove environment so that is it for uh for my report kevin all right anybody have any questions on the certified support staff seniority lists nope can i please have a motion to approve the certified and support staff seniority list motion second doug all in favor of emotion is red say aye aye all right any pose eyes have it anybody have any questions on the school fees for 2021-2022 nope nope oh they're staying the same correct yeah everything's the same all right can i please have a motion to approve the school fees for 20 20 of 21 2022 motion second yes yes yes yes item c kevin we do not have uh any agreement on that so we can pull item c off oh there's no yeah okay no um so i guess i should have said that at the beginning with it yeah so guy please have a motion do we table it um i think we can't leave it we can't yeah we're not gonna go with the yeah there's something so if there's something we can defer we can move it to the next meeting but i don't know how to do it the table yeah yeah so can i please have a motion to table item c approve this memorandum of understanding between the big hollow education board of big health school district 38 in the big hollow federation of teachers second yes yes yes yes yes any questions on the cover related absences for all education support staff and out as outlined in the memo this is the exact language that's in the proposal to the union that we don't have an agreement on but i want to make sure the support staff their support staff has something so when they're covered yeah so this makes the support staff whole if anything would occur on campus all right okay can i please have a motion to approve the procedures for covid related absences for all education support staff as outlined in the memo to the board motion second yes yes yes yes anybody have any questions on the january employment recommendations okay please have a motion to approve the january employment recommendations motion doug yes resignations accepted we accepted a retirement request from heather wick as a middle school special education teacher effective at the end of the 2024-2025 school year we accepted a retirement request from don smith a second grade teacher effective at the end of the 2024-20 school year anybody have any questions on the four-year request no uh anybody any questions in the monthly reports for the board uh the next regularly scheduled board meeting will take place on monday march 8th 20 2029 with closed session beginning at 6 00 p.m uh can i please have a motion to adjourn motion second lauren and tiffany all in favor of emotions red say aye aye
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so we're increasing the number of permits to 700 a year at a high level again this is just a scenario we don't necessarily know that this would occur but at a high level we're bringing it back to what occurred at the turn of the century where we're going to about 900 permits a year and at the low level we're going to basically take permits and we're basically going to cut them in half over time they slowly decline to about 250. so that gives us a range of the high and the low as well as a base forecast we're going to assume that all scenarios could actually support the infrastructure for building out you know that apps actually is a question and it's not something that's reported here i'm also assuming that transfer students as well as private school enrollment doesn't change much from current patterns um there are some unknowns and probably the biggest the known and and we've talked about this previously as being a big unknown is resale and the resale of homes what would happen if homes turn over well if homes turn over let's just say mom and dad live in the house and kids have already gone to college or and moved on and if they sell that home postcovid then that becomes another place where enrollment could grow there's not a specific assumption in the forecast for that really it's not something we know but if you do believe something like that is going to happen or could happen then that would suggest we should be thinking about the high side for our forecast okay so what does this mean um when we when we run our our forecast what does what does this mean these assumptions mean so again we're going to see a graphic very similar to what you've seen in the past with um going back 10 years so that's a number of 8 500 which was enrollment at 2010 enrollment this past year this is fall adms by the way was about 900 students and then we go out 10 years and then because we're doing this extrapolation we go out an additional 10 for a forecast of 20 years okay a couple things i want to point out here is that i have labeled the forecasts f and t right and so the reason i'm doing this and trying to make this distinction is f means it's the forecast it's our forecast process where we have assumptions about births and housing the t is the extra that means time series now that's our extrapolation okay so we're not making assumptions like we've made for um the first 10 years of the forecast the time series forecast is something very different we're just assuming trends are going to continue and we're taking those numbers and we're extrapolating them out so in terms of a 10-year forecast because again this is consistent with our forecast process uh avon schools would go from 19 i'm sorry apologies would go from 99 9 900 students let me say that one more time would go from 9 900 students to almost 12 000 students over a period of 10 years on the low side that would be about 1965 terms of member and students and potentially on the high side with that high level of building at over 15 000 students one thing that i look at when i look at these types of graphics and i would encourage you to think about is think about the base fork i mean i'm sorry the low forecast as a floor okay so the low forecast which again here is 99.65 it's very unlikely total enrollment would go below that all right so it's basically you can think about it as a floor the only way we would anticipate that enrollment would go below that would be if housing really fell off all right um the number of about 12 000 that would be your forecast number going out 10 years for total enrollment um the extrapolation the extrapolation here is taking the 20 years previous so 2010 all the way to 2030 and then extrapolating that another 10 years and so we're basically taking that trend and pulling it out into the future what you could anticipate would be on the low side 9 100 students nearly 14 000 students at the um at the base forecast and over 20 000 at the high forecast now before you take a big deep breath about that 20 000 let me just say that doesn't mean that 20 000 is a reasonable number and and this is why and this is why we did the extrapolation is if if we assume that 8 000 single family homes could be built out the question is where does that occur and what would be basically a peak enrollment number okay so at the high level buildup would occur in cy meaning calendar year cy calendar year 2030 that would impact enrollment at least for the next three years to 33-34 and at the high level that means 1600 and 16 and 400 students at the base the base you know that's the same level as 8 000 single family homes but the timing of that is much later so that's at 2032 and it impacts enrollment until 35 36.
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and then since we've been the hybrid a through k students have actually been out 16 days because of january 4th we didn't have school anyway martin luther king jr day was a monday and then they also had a monday out last week and tomorrow is a tuesday and we have snow right now so unfortunately the a through k students have landed on it on a few days now right now because i counted today with making the finishing up this slide uh is only two days difference because they did go to school today and this week hasn't yet occurred for our l to z students so they'll add to their number here and maybe add to that gap if they're able to get into school at the end of this week so uh just the nature of the beast uh in terms of that 16 that is eight out of 24 days so we we have had uh 24 possible school days um and and they've been in school eight because of just how that that works so that that's of concern as we think through all of that and try to make those decisions so i just i place that in front of you in terms of spring break is approaching uh how we handle that in terms of a pivot with a decision and how many weeks or days we apply this next decision as well as that continued concern about secondary students not being in the classroom as much as we would like for them so again it is about of the time since monday march 23rd they've been out of the classroom so the majority of those days that is my last slide again we we will uh look to make a decision as always i'll reach out to you just in indicating uh thoughts and and direction um we have a meeting on wednesday morning i think we had a hold on that kelly but we were trying to get some things finalized for a a a conversation with our local medical professionals again um just to take a look at the data and and also make sure that they were on board with these changes because i i failed to mention that with the stuff here it is important that our bartholomew county health department also review this information and gives us some insight as to to where they might stand and i believe a meeting is coming up for them to digest this information too so we'll continue as we have since last march we'll continue to consult with our local medical professionals and work from there as we make a make a decision for this next next time doctor operations i'm going to go home and let my w child who is in middle school know that you are aware of the disparities that she has made for the monday tuesday a couple of times okay so thank you very much for keeping more on that i bet others are doing that gosh darn it those kids are getting out even more than we are yeah based on how they're looking at it but yes we are keeping score the monday tuesday group is falling behind okay i'll just share for future conversation and i and i do respect all the controversy associated but i think it would be interesting that as we're doing our metrics that eventually we start adding the percentage of vaccines happening in our county i mean we've been working i mean we've been it's i'm recalling the conversation about somebody asking us about the number in the hospital like because it's the county and bcsc is not the whole county and the intent of that initially was so how healthy are we but then it evolved into it's an issue of can we take care of everyone so so the purpose of that metric kind of evolved and got a little more complex in our conversations so it just occurs to me that i think the percentage of vaccines that are happening in our county is also kind of adding to the complex portrait if you will of how things are going that probably should start to be added we can ask us to what kind of data we have available on that and how we could add it to our conversation what's that kelly okay code and task force is it on the site now it's come okay so that is in the works to be on that okay good thank you good great all right that is uh my update all right thank you so much so um next on our official agendas opportunity for public comments and we did not have anyone sign in today so i will move on to an opportunity to share board commendations so i'll ask colleagues if they have commendations they'd like to share yeah dr shan all right guys yes i would like to uh take the time to congratulate a couple of teachers who just received lilly teacher grant creativity opportunities it's a super neat program put on by lilly awarding up to twelve thousand dollars from teachers to you know kind of recharge their batteries if you will over the summer months and hopefully at the same time pick up ideas to utilize in the classroom and two from bcsc were recipients uh brooke lanat from ell teacher from schmidt and fadria and the title of hers recharging in chile a linguistic and cultural immersion so brooks plans to spend some time with a host family in chile and develop spanish-speaking skills while learning about vina del mar if i pronounce that correctly and then the other recipient from northside language arts teacher dakota huddleson i personally am very jealous of his opportunity but a writing teacher's written renaissance and dakota plans to travel the u.s by train to spark creativity and rekindle the desire to write for pleasure and teach creative writing in the classroom so a couple of super neat opportunities for uh teachers this summer and i know that's kind of a lengthy somewhat tedious process to apply for those so applaud their efforts for you know receiving those awesome very good awesome thank you for sharing those others all right i've got two um i wanted to share that our fabulous eye care program has been reviewed by the 21st century community learning centers which is an element within the indiana department of education and in that evaluation the words were and i'll quote your program was selected as having some of the highest levels of academic achievement in the state with an exclamation point so congratulations to all who work on such an important part of our programs here in bcsc and then i'll secondly i will share that amy dixon and evan burton both at northside have been named as the 2021 outstanding administrators of the year by the indiana council for exceptional children so we knew that about them but we're so glad that others have identified their outstanding skills doctor if i could just add one more perhaps if i could add to the group um because i don't think we've mentioned this publicly but our marching bands at columbus north and columbus east uh are are going to begin working together so providing some expanded opportunities for our kids a great idea uh somewhat innovative approach i know there are other school corporations that have done something similar but as opposed to just having a marching band at east and a marching band in north and they may do some of that but they're also going to have a combined effort so increase some numbers increase some opportunities probably help us out a little bit even with competition perhaps but a really neat situation that our two band directors have have found a way to get the two schools together and have two bands one sound is is what we have so we're looking forward to that uh that work between the two awesome are there others individuals have all right school board member reports are there reports that individuals have to share okay dr shed yes this isn't necessarily a report but just as a reminder for folks to put on their calendars for the next board meeting on march the 1st we will be having our hall of fame education hall of fame recognition on that evening so just so everybody can jot it down on their calendar right yeah great article in the newspaper i believe yesterday's version of the republic on on susan so tremendous thanks kathy and thank you for your work on that committee kathy dr shed i have a couple quick ones please um last week at a couple meetings one i had the pleasure i'm participating in the indiana school boards association new board member academy uh last week we had a meeting on effective governance and board superintendent relations and tomorrow night uh dr roberts be glad to know the topic is uh evaluation of the superintendent um probably yeah and then the other uh meeting last week the school foundation just to remind everybody that the school foundation's virtual trivia night is coming up saturday night the theme share the love so i just want to remind everybody to hopefully get involved with that saturday evening i believe 7 to 8 30.
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uh what does that mean in terms of total enrollments just shy of about 13 000 students at the low level while building would occur and could continue to occur it would not hit the built out levels whatsoever okay so this is the updated um enrollment forecast with the new [Music] assumptions let's next take a look at grade 9 through 12 so this would be your high school enrollment okay so we're going to do the same thing year 2010 he had about 2500 students last fall so 2020 you had almost 32 or 30 we had 3300 students and the forecast would suggest over a period of 10 years the base forecast with building at approaching 700 single-family homes a year that would you would be over 4100 students in 10 years okay another way to look at this is what about below forecast would have actually building fell off a little bit it's very unlikely for your high school to be below 3500 students that means even with low levels of building your high school is likely to grow at very very high levels of building looking 10 years out you're probably at say 54 5500 students um one of the reasons why for instance at that low level uh you're you still grow or you your school is still going to grow is because you have large cohorts coming through you have large cohorts uh kindergarten first graders you know sixth graders seventh graders i did some quick checks i think your current sixth grade is somewhat large if i remember and that's a cohort that's getting very close to a graduating class when it graduates in six years very close to a thousand students okay so what's happening is you do have large groups that are coming through and they'll come through at the high school level essentially whether or not there's building or not if we think about build out though that's that second question that's taking it out 20 years so again build out occurs in the high level at 20 30 and at the base level at 2032 that means if the township was entirely built out at a very quick pace enrollment at the high school level at the high level would be about 6 000 students at a little bit accelerating pace from where it is now build out would bring your enrollments at the high school to about 4 600 students and that's the base again it would never occur at the low level we're doing the same activity or that same type of process for grades seven through eight so at grade seven and eight tier it had about fourteen hundred students ten years ago today a little bit over sixteen hundred students and that again is fall numbers and looking out ten years we would anticipate enrollment to be about over 2 000 students again at the low level very unlikely for enrollments to fall from where they are now even with lower building and at the high level could approach 2 800 students at about 20 30.
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awesome thank you mr grimes i appreciate that others no all right i'll just share with individuals as your liaison oh i love this part um there's a lot of conversation among a variety of our educational state associations about there are three different bills that have been presented that increase the amount of funding in our voucher system here in the state of indiana so just again this this afternoon there was a meeting of representatives of those associations all of whom are considering a letter both to members of the general assembly and governor halpum as to so how do you find money to do that when students in our non-public schools are four percent of the students in the state of indiana so we'll watch the progress of that legislation as it goes forward all right it is cabinet report time mr phillips i'll cycle ahead there mr phillips there's not a slide on the t8 tax participation one rate right okay that's correct yep good evening thank you i'm going to uh go relatively quickly considering the state of the weather outside i will just note that mrs wilden i think our eighth grader will switch places with yours because if it if there's a snow day tomorrow my h son in eighth grade i think my wife might just drop him off at school anyway just leave him there for the day because she's tired of him being home so that um just a quick update on the each each year we do tax anticipation warrants and in january we find out what that interest rate that we're being charged you'll be happy to know that our interest rate on our tax anticipation warrants for this year is 0.63 interest so great time to be borrowing if you haven't refinanced your house do so now personal advice there and then on to the 2020 year-end financial report again you have all of the details in front of you and so if i go too quickly please feel free to stop me or send questions afterwards so that we can get home safely tonight um just an overview of the year end on this is the education fund and um the revenues were a little bit higher than expected mainly because adm was up when that was an anomaly across the state and a surprise to us that adm was up for the fall and we also had some timing issues with some federal aid that we get we go we got two deposits from the federal government one in january and one again in december and we usually get one a year so next year with zero but um so some cash flow changes there that are unexpected and then on expenditures expenditures were basically right where we expected to be a little bit less before you take into account transfers from the education fund to the operations fund but just about just about right on there so cash balance up uh quite a bit about 50 over the prior year but again with uh revenues higher than expected that's uh that's exactly what we would expect we have seen as we entered into the fall you know that we did cut positions in anticipation of the state cutting our funding and then they ended up not doing so that wasn't until september that we found out that that was the case that they were going to fund us fully since that time and this could have changed since i asked miss heine last week since that time we have hired either full-time permanent teachers permanent substitute teachers or temporary teachers to address the needs in our classrooms from bridge students that are online to just covering classrooms when people are doing other things to um to subbing for someone when they're a close contact situation they have to be out of the room so we have taken some action in that last quarter to uh to really catch up because we probably would have had our expenditures in 2020 would have been a lot less had we not done so and those continue to be the case we're still still looking for additional subs and temporary teachers to fill those spots for the second semester on the operations side much different story over on the operations side just a strange year as you would expect revenues were about right where we would expect them to be because i don't ever budget for for any tax cap losses and our losses were expected to be a little bit less um final the final losses to be less than what the state guessed in the fall before but this year we had an unexpected decrease in our last tax distribution we have not shared this information with you yet been working with the county on it you probably read in the last part of last year that the county's lawsuit with hpi or thrive alliance now housing partnerships was went to the indiana state supreme court and was final and they are still negotiating but the county didn't want to get stuck with that bill during the 2020 calendar year and not have the money so for the last 10 years or so bcse has collected tax property tax revenues from the county and on those properties that were taxed that hpi owned now that the state supreme court said that those properties were not supposed to be taxed they reduced our tax property tax distribution in december by about five hundred thousand dollars so the county's sitting on that money and has that money ready to pay whenever the final settlement amount is finished with hpi in this year so between the about half a million dollars that um that we were expected to save in tax cap losses that were overestimated and the half a million dollar underpayment because the county is keeping that money for the hpi settlement is about a wash there so that was a lot of information just on that one line yes mr the amount that i think you said the county was keeping because of hpi that represents several years worth of taxes across several hpi properties correct and the 500 000 is the sum of it all correct plus interest so uh it's about 12 years but i think that only represents 10 years of it they're still working on the final two years but yeah about 12 years of of taxes on i'm going to say it was it was well over 40 properties maybe closer to even 60.
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