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that is a quarter of the downtime that a public power utility experiences in comp comparison to our private energy utility next slide please is also a cheaper source of energy on average across the united states public power utilities pay an average of 14 percent less in energy rates than their private energy utility counterparts however once again the nationwide data doesn't quite tell the whole story for ann arbor if you look at this graph we have ann arbor's dte energy rate is about 17.51 cents per kilowatt hours meanwhile our next door neighbor of chelsea's cents per kilowatt hour is about 10.15 that is over 40 percent less in their energy rates that they pay just a few miles away from us next slide please but we don't believe we should do this just because it is a cheaper better source of power though honestly that's probably reason enough we also feel that it is important that we have a local control over our energy future with a municipal energy utility we would control the rates we would control the source of power and we would control when our infrastructure is updated next slide please and furthermore it invests in our community now i can get into the jargon about how your average public power utility does give back more to their community through a system called pilot then uh private energy utilities give to their community through taxes and that's true public power utilities pay about an average of 5.6 percent of their operating revenue through pilot back to their community meanwhile your average investor owned utility pays only 4.2 percent of their operating revenue back in taxes but it's more than that through a municipal energy utility we would create a massive investment in infrastructure in jobs in our community and the city would have the power to ensure that those jobs are strong union jobs we could build modern reliable infrastructure and a resilient energy grid all on our terms next slide please and finally and as the speakers alluded to maybe most importantly it is the environmentally responsible choice now we know that dte currently stands in our way of doing a lot of the things we want to do build more rooftops solar and distributed generation however and dte could waive the rates that the state put the caps that the state puts on those things however they really have no incentive to do so a municipal energy utility simply wouldn't have this issue but it's more than that ann arbor is a community committed to green energy and we could say that every bit of energy generation that ann arbor builds would be a hundred percent renewable allowing us to reach that 2030 energy renewable energy target on our own terms without having to rely on any outside factors next slide please and this isn't a fairy tale municipalization is a process that has taken across this uh taking place across the us with success many times in long island in 1998 the city municipalized their energy utility they now serve well over a million customers and reduce the city's elect their customers uh electric utility rates by 20 next slide please it doesn't stop there though winter park florida formed a public power utility in 2005.
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the city made so much money back in excess revenues that they were able to massively re-haul their energy infrastructure investing in underground lines which massively reduced their outages next slide please and finally and probably most inspiringly jefferson county washington voted in 2008 to establish their municipal electric utility just like we would have to do they bought out their local private utility and were able to transition to a 97 carbon-free electricity mix one of the cleanest mixes in the country soon though hopefully to be beaten by us at a hundred percent next slide so what is the path that we see for ann arbor to join these success stories the sustainable and fiscal ones well we think that ann arbor is right for me was right for municipalization for a variety of reasons for one thing municipalization is legal as we've touched on the annaber city charter and the state constitution both explicitly authorized municipalization unlike boulder colorado which one of the previous commenters mentioned is often brought up in the conversation of municipalization in ann arbor um however the boulder fight was long and legally bloody in part because they didn't have the kind of explicit legal language that we do ann arbor already has a public utility our water system and our sewage are municipally operated this is not true in many communities across the country but it is true here which demonstrates that our local government has the ability to provide these services to its citizens and to to meet our needs there is a strong local commitment to carbon neutrality in ann arbor both the city of ann arbor and the university of michigan our largest employer have set very ambitious carbon neutrality targets and perhaps most importantly we think that ann arbor has the expertise and resources to make this happen both materially and socially ann arbor is one of the most highly educated cities in the country it has demonstrated over the long term our commitment to being environmentally sound so if we can't do this here we can't do it anywhere but it's happened elsewhere so we think that we can do it here with amazing success next slide please we also believe that municipalization is in alignment with the proposed a20 energy criteria and principles looking at the core criteria municipalization will allow us to reduce greenhouse gas emissions through our locally controlled energy source blends and increasing local solar municipalization will allow us to add new electricity generation including as mentioned by a commenter by perhaps incentivizing local solar or building new generation elsewhere which we would then own as a city it also democratizes energy access allowing our communities values of equity and justice to influence our local energy both in generation and distribution looking at energy principles municipalization is that's the most local control you can get looking at an energy system and we all know that local control enhances resilience whether you're talking about an energy system a food system or a school system municipalization is scalable cities of many sizes have utilities and as ann arbor grows our municipal utility would grow with us and we believe that ann arbor can be a role model for new public energy utilities across the state of michigan next slide please we also believe that cca can combine community choice aggregation and municipalization are complementary the renewable resources identified and secured for a cca could be distributed by a municipal municipally owned grid and if ann arbor is successful at establishing a mutant school utility we could provide power to adjacent communities we also think importantly that our timeline is simply too critical to put all of our eggs in one basket when it comes to the climate crisis cca is not legal in michigan and it is not likely to become legal for at least several years we would like to work with cca advocates and strengthen energy democracy and access in michigan across all its forms next slide please however we know that this process will not be without challenges there will be costs stranded cost separation and reintegration costs transaction costs costs startup costs legal fees and opportunity costs however there will be costs associated with any path that we take to change the energy landscape in our community it will take time on the scale of years again this is something that it shares with every process that we might undertake as a community to make our energy future more sustainable we will face opposition from dte dte is not going to want to give up the ann arbor market however as we have touched upon earlier we believe that the legal basis for their argument is flimsy and it is a case that we could win and we will win um we know that it's been a long time since a municipality has in michigan has created a public power utility which is all the more reason for ann arbor to do so the state needs a test case we need to break the monopoly um in the stranglehold honestly that our large electric utilities have on the communities of the state and we believe that the benefits will outweigh the costs we don't we think that not doing something on this issue will cost more in the long run speaking of costs next slide please one of the first costs associated with this process will be a feasibility study and we believe that this feasibility study is likely to cost about 120 000 what we get for that 120 thousand dollars will be a much better perspective on exactly how much it will cost to start up and operate a municipal utility as well as a better understanding of the legal framework involved so where do we come to this 120 000 estimate well in 2017 decor iowa with a population of 8 000 paid 70 000 for their feasibility study for establishing a municipal utility the next year in 2018 pueblo colorado population 112 000 paid 122 thousand dollars for their feasibility study and just two years ago chicago population 1.7 2.7 million paid 120 000 for their feasibility study so we think that 120 000 will get us a feasibility study which will give us a lot of the answers that we need to begin this process as a community to secure sustainable and community controlled energy generation for us and for the people who live here for many years and we think that we owe it to ourselves into the future to find that information and answer these questions thank you very very much and let us know if you have any questions for us right now i thank you very much that was a great presentation um i would not be surprised if we have a lot of comments and or questions from commissioners i'd like to open the floor i can see all of you so go ahead mark a couple comments one i want to clarify that the first speaker on the phone um i think mixed up uh community choice aggregation and dte screen power program that a cce a would would not require ann arbor to buy power from dte community choice segregation builds on the electric choice program that was authorized under republican governor john engler and is still in effect today and the second part of that i guess is um the working and fighting the legislator on this doesn't i don't find that a scary prospect we took on the solar taxation the city of ann arbor the michigan municipal league the michigan federation of cities the public schools um and numerous others were against us and we ended up with a unanimous bipartisan vote and got solar taxation done i think the issue is um selling it to uh communities that don't look like ann arbor and there's not a lot of them out there that would like to do that and there's a bunch of municipal utilities out there including the one that i'm sitting in now in my 100 solar house in harbor springs that would be more than happy to sell green power from their their cell their staff their excess generation under a green power program as as i would think some others would as well so i agree that the cca and municipalization is not mutually exclusive i would say um they're synergistic and and these are two paths that we should we should look at i would say that we can we can start you know monday um working with the legislature we have two people who are very interested in this and uh and uh and begin to look at how how that um the other part i think uh i remember our previous city administrator john mursky and i had a meeting with him talking about this and and i remember him commenting about how different it was to come from austin to ann arbor and how much he didn't really fully appreciate the benefit of the municipal utility he said that they would routinely at the end of the year get a to 100 000 surplus uh what funds flowing into the city from the municipal utility that was totally unbudgeted and unplanned um there was always a there's always surprise phones and stuff so he was rather shocked when he got here and realized that uh that was no longer an option for him so um anyway i just wanted to clarify uh those those two things thanks thank you mark would people raise their hand at the bottom of the screen um i saw um maybe robert um george's the the next person and then travis and i think mike also indicated um his that he wanted to speak so um robert go ahead uh thank you mr chair um first i just want to thank you both for jumping on and giving that presentation um i've had the privilege of speaking uh with a member of your coalition and um hearing more about uh how all of this would work and the functionality behind all of it um but again uh big kudos to someone uh not far out of uh college myself that it's always great to see uh youth activism especially around such a pressing issue as climate change so thank you again for that um uh my question relates to chelsea um i'm very unfamiliar with that i know commissioner cleavy mentioned that a second ago um so i i guess you know to the both of you and you know commissioner i'm sure you can jump in there too um about uh how chelsea's works and um you know if there's anything we can take from them that would work here chuck can you speak to that i see your hand up or is that what you raised your hand for or did you have a question or comment we also i believe have a couple other members of our coalition who are now involved in the call here who could give comment maybe ken um or sam or another member of atp2 might be able to comment uh more about chelsea as a specific example um robert can you if they if they can respond then missy can recognize them um they're already elevated i think ken just unmuted yeah thanks tegwin um i'm i'm elevated because um i just did some of the statistical work that showed up on the presentation slides um so i calculated chelsea's um electric electric rate um based on its um utility website but i cannot answer uh robert's question about um how chelsea works i'm not familiar with the ins and outs of uh of their operation so maybe chuck is yes or i can too i they i we did a study with chelsea uh like five years ago looking at solar um there when the impetus there was they half the city council was driving electric vehicles and they couldn't get them charged so they wanted to do solar um chelsea does no self-generation um they buy a hundred percent of the power outside they're probably more of a typical municipal utility and you know that's an option for us we we could be in this municipal utility buy power and and you know buy buy green power buy brown power buy whatever power we want um it's you know that the trick is if you're gonna self-generate it's a it's a business and you gotta be smart about it so and ever i'm not sure we'd all be happy with having you know gas powered facilities in ann arbor and all the stuff that's going to go with it but um you know this this this could get really easy if if the university of michigan joined with us in a municipal utility um we could uh this would move along very quickly or would agree to put up some money in the lawsuit or to pay for half the study this could move along quite rapidly so um i i would think uh chelsea would be a potential customer from her green power from ann arbor and supposed to uh that's looking at the other way because they they buy the green power from dte right now and it's upward to three hundred thousand dollars a year just to buy green credits so missy indicated earlier that this is um obviously a learning process and um you know some deeper dives on some of these topics i think would benefit all of us um because we obviously want to make a good decision and not regret um where we what we've done five years down the road and don't look we don't want to lose five years robert did you have any other follow-up or is that yeah i just had one other quick unrelated question um so the presenters um you know you mentioned uh the potential legal concerns there um i was just thinking i i do i deal with a decent amount of contracting in my uh day job and i was just curious you know what what type of contractual obligations the city in the university you currently have i'm just unaware of what the legal um concerns there that you kind of alluded to for more of a contractual angle like is there a certain amount of time that the city has committed to purchasing power from dge um that we must uphold for um just uh on that lines and it doesn't need to be super detailed just any uh quick explanation robert i'm going to take that one and say we need to pump that for the energy attorney to really talk about the legal ramifications i think that that needs to come from from expertise okay councilmember radina thank you mr chair uh and and thanks to the speakers also i wanna uh echo robert's comments about how grateful i am for all of you to be involved and to be willing to put together a presentation and come and talk to us um this is something that i've been interested in studying a lot personally and i've had a lot of conversations with some of my constituents and other elected officials about it um and i think you know i'm a i'm a former customer actually of lansing board board of water and light and and you know enjoyed my service there um and and the responsiveness of the the utility to the to the community um i think one of the things that i have struggled with and that i really appreciate from your presentation is that you know lansing board of water and light established their municipal energy program in 1892 and so we don't have a recent example of what that might look like in in kind of our modern modern times and so i appreciate you pointing us to long island winter park in jefferson county i will continue to do my research there but i have struggled personally to find some of those recent success stories so to the extent that you have additional information that you could share about those three examples i would be really grateful to look at that i'm particularly interested in some of the the initial startup costs and things like that um i know that a feasibility study would speak to that um more uh more closely to our kind of local situation um but you know as i'm considering even what um what this might look like going forward and looking at the fact that you know we also have a covet budget system that we're recycled that we're dealing with right now um trying to just kind of do all of that math kind of on the front end to the extent that i can as i'm as i'm weighing some of these factors so if you have more information about that that would be great as well but i just also wanted to thank you again because i really appreciate the presentation on the conversation tonight thank you travis um yes certainly we can forward on more information regarding those examples i believe that that information did come from the american association for public power which has a lot of information about those types of success stories and so forth and i appreciate that you alluded to the fact that a feasibility study would answer a lot of these questions i think as we've seen there's a lot of support in the community and a lot of interest in this it is a very feasible uh path forward it seems and uh it seems prudent to and fully investigate that and get those answers that we need commissioner schreiberg mike yeah thanks i want to echo the the thanks to the presenters who i think did an excellent job of laying out something that this commission's been talking about off and on for probably a decade or so but this was maybe the most focused um you know effort to bring that to bear that i've seen my question is really around the the timing because i i'll tell you one of my the hang up that i've got for for this is that the time that it would take to form this which you know is measured certainly in years if if not more um is time that i don't want to waste when we can be working directly on the solution so i you know and i realize there's a short-term long-term thing but i'd be curious from the presenters or others on the commission how you balance those things the urgency that we need to reduce emissions right now and the time and effort in the legal fight over many years it would take to create this because you know i'm i'm there in concept but i i've got a practical concern about about timing yeah we share that concern i think that that's a big part of the reason why we said that uh cca and municipalization are complementary approaches uh you know we owe it to the future generations to fight this battle with every tool we have um and yes uh municipalization is not a short process it can be uh done in a realistic time frame that allows us to get to those energy goals that we want um but that does require urgency on the form in the form of city cooperation and we really hope that we'll get that type of cooperation moving forward so that we can use every tool in our disposal to make sure that the future generations have the sustainable future that they deserve and i guess i just add i see a concern that i have is timing but also you know the limited pool of resources of city city resources in time to do that and i just think there's a there's a balance there maybe i'm stating the obvious but there's you know that you know time that goes into that can't be can't go into other other program time so i know it's not a full zero-sum game but they're you know time and time and resources are limited within the city as well so just to comment on that but thank you um commissioner hookem and then commissioner kerber broken microphone sorry okay so then we'll move on to um and and um commissioner okam if you would like um you could potentially might be good now chairman no check yourself so if it's very very short you could put them in into chat um please do not use the chat function you should not be using the chat function that is not allowed for oma please do not use the chat function ah okay yes uh chuck if you want to email me i would gladly read them okay there we go so we'll move to uh commissioner kerber there yes you know i can understand solving ann arbor's problem this way and and our word's quite unique has been pointed out quite unique and not every municipality would have that same uniqueness um i tend to really want to see the idea of energy choice everywhere in michigan not just in ann arbor and if if what we do can apply additional pressure to loosen up the monopoly stranglehold what's been referred to as the monopoly string hold and i think that's a big win for ann arbor for other municipalities and for the state of michigan and hopefully the rest of the country because we're not the only state that suffers from this stranglehold it goes on all across the country all across the country so having an impact here is just a step it may be a good step but not a complete step we have to do bigger than that thank you commissioner kerber um i'm going to recognize commissioner mccoy next and commissioner streiberg and york if if you have other comments leave your hand up if not then take your hand down go ahead amber yeah um thank you for the presentation um i think as some people know i'm a part of the ann arbor for public power group so it's really excited to see this conversation at the forefront here um i just want to explain a little bit like the reasons that i'm excited about it are um i think i've mentioned a couple times um on the call i think that we really need to be focusing on things not just that bring us to clean green energy which i think can easily be a lot of our focus um but also on things that touch on many of the things that the public comments around affordability and resilience and that's the way that we truly center um environmental equity when we're thinking about our policies i think those things are really important elements that are not brought by all plans but again emphasize the important uh importance of working um together with a couple of different things um and also as mentioned um i really appreciate i think i feel like in especially in michigan people have this sense that dt is inevitable as i think i've mentioned before at energy commission meetings and so i think you know really trying to explore the this and other options and pushing against that against the status quo is like the really big bold moves that we need and the type of moves that um ann arbor has a history of doing um i also wanted to address a comment that was made over email um i so robert said earlier how um he appreciated how this is like a youth driven movement which i also really appreciate seeing young people present um in the coalition of people across different ages that are part of this group um there's a comment over email that this needs to be driven by um taxpayers and i just wanted to say that like to me i read that as um homeowners so if i misinterpreted that please correct me um but i just want to make a comment that renters even though we are not the ones directly paying taxes our rent pays taxes and then some and i think we should really um not encourage conversations that exclude um a huge group of residents in ann arbor in this case the majority of residents in ann arbor um and especially exclude um create a conversation that's only around wealthy white um and elder older skewed older um people in an army so i really think it's important this conversation with everyone who will be a voter um and i'm encouraged to see that here today commissioner i mean councilmember briggs thank you um mostly just a comment for me um just wanted to say thank you for this outstanding presentation i appreciate the background the um the uh acknowledgement of the challenges um within you know any framework that we move forward with and also just sort of practical what are the next steps so it's really good um piece also many thanks to all the commenters that that called in um to share their thoughts as well and um i'm looking forward to sort of the the series of educational um pieces that are coming forward so that we can kind of put this in the context of um hearing from some legal advice next and and just um i also appreciate uh the the comments around not putting all of our eggs in one basket i think that's really important um what we need to we need to make sure that we um we're exploring a lot of different options that we get to a successful outcome for our community and as amber mentioned for everybody in our community um other commissioners commissioner cleavy i just want to pick up on what mike was saying and it's the question of the the cost of this um is it it would these 120 000 be borne by the office of sustainability and innovations budget or because we have a water utility is this something that would be you know done under their budget and under their responsibility uh or some other part of the city i mean how i'm trying to figure out how this would happen dropping 120 000 and missy's budget right now i think that people's eyebrows would go up but we do have a water utility i wonder is that an option uh is that part of the conversation i guess as far as i know it is the one someone from the group want to comment i i don't know if there's a source really identified um i i'm aware of the municipalization effort in decorah iowa and my understanding is that was essentially privately funded primarily by a local philanthropist is there any idea from within the a2p2 group as to what the source of those funds would be or a proposal where they should come from we have not um made a budget right now with how to raise 120 000 ourselves i think that we as an organization recognize that there is a lot of private money in this community and if in order to access that money to pay for this it would need to be funneled through our group um that's something that we are open to and i think we're investigating right now those sorts of legal frameworks that we would need as an organization in order to engage in fundraising um i also am curious um and i think a lot of people in this group are about how to potentially access um some of the general funds in this city like the kinds of funds that went to like buying new electric ford mustangs for our police force for example um very cool but um i think that as a community um they're you know i think that some of the values that our community holds would be open to some of the like general funds of the city being used uh for a feasibility study like this i don't think that we are interested in all of this coming out of the very important work that the office of sustainability has already budgeted it for um so i think that there are a lot of questions to be pursued there and if anyone on this call has information or ideas about that please reach out to us great other commissioners questions comments anyone yes um carlene i would welcome information about the process for the feasibility study uh you know what's you know how does it get kicked off first plunk down on the cash and then what happens or like what's what's the process and that would be really informative if you could share that uh with with us yeah so as you saw in that slide that referenced the feasibility studies that have been done elsewhere there are organizations that do these types of things in fact two of the most recent feasibility studies were done by organization called new gen um i'm not an expert on city process so maybe someone else could step in more on that but i imagine the process would probably be some sort of bidding process where those types of organizations would make an offer and the city would accept one of them if i'll i'll just comment um if indeed the city were to take a lead in this then that would be exactly right i mean if it would to be through private fundraising through an upper public power then you could decide how that would be um you know whether you issue a request for proposal and then evaluate those or whether you just short circuit the whole process time wise i mean that would be something that would be probably up to you guys um so that you know that's that that remains open um well my recommendation would be to provide as much uh structure to this as possible because just the rfp process is an entire process in and of itself to understand what questions to ask and in order to get bids for so um i i would advise you know that to do that kind of research ahead of time which would serve the city and city council as far as um making it more uh easy to make decisions and this is part of what we went through for having the approval of the uh electric vehicle readiness ordinance there's a tremendous amount of work that went into it ahead of time anyone else's questions yes um commissioner i was just going to um second that discussion on request for proposal process if it's a privately funded request for proposal that someone or a group would bring into a public entity and say this is how or you would municipalize something the rigor that's done on competitive bidding analysis and rfp analysis and the questions that need to be asked make sure you have experts in the fields of electricity and others so that you do ask the best quote right questions so that you get the information that you really need so that you get a feasible cost because if you do not get the costs right up front or the feasibility up front you could take the city down a path that would not be wise you know so if you take say the washington municipality and the fact that they're renewable right away you have to understand that the major source of electricity in that area is from hydroelectric generation and so you have a very natural abundant renewable energy source there so you want to look at other municipalities that have been formed in areas like hours with similar infrastructure like ours with similar um diversity of supply right so make sure that you're looking at those and make sure that if you would happen to get private funding that you do do a rigorous rfp process as if you were doing it from the actual city of ann arbor and understand and follow that type of process so there's a lot of technical details in here that are even outside of the realm of legal politics everything else because you have to set up your own utility you have to staff your utility you have to understand the technical requirements of owning and maintaining an electric distribution system and that's even before you start deciding whether or not you're going to add your own generation within the city of ann arbor if you're going to buy a generation from outside the city lots of things so mark's just back nodding so i know this is a very daunting task and so you can't look at the elephant you have to think about taking this in chunks and bites and you also have to set up a project plan with exit ramps off when you may have and what criteria you're going to use to make those decisions like is this the best right use of ann arbor's resources and talent you know to uh commissioner kerber and uh commissioner uh cleavy's points you know is it better served for us to look more in the policy realm to get more of a global change in the state of michigan or do we continue just to you know focus our energies on um just the city of ann arbor so those are my preliminary thoughts but thank you very much for your time and your research you know thepublicpower.org and institute for local self-reliance are also places where there's a lot of information on municipalization so it's very trendy right now in the country thank you for the time thank you um missy did uh you were you able to get any comments or questions from commissioner hook um yet no okay okay chuck do you want to try your microphone one more time i see you're working no go too bad you calling on the phone so i think um do we have anybody else um so i'm going to offer some very few comments from my side um first of all i think this is a beginning of a really great um conversation where i think we can learn from each other and um i think a lot of the the guidance that came out of this um was hopefully very helpful to the group and i can see that um you know conversations outside of this forum are also going to help inform us and i encourage those to take place i just want to point out a few things that haven't been brought up um so on like i think slide number three i'm talking about dte's energy resource split pump hydro is shown as 9 but pump hydro really isn't if you think about an energy source it's a battery um in a sense it is an energy resource but the energy that is disposed through pump hydro is coming from some other source so you want to take that out of there and show what that is without pump hydro you know the general picture doesn't doesn't change um but just to to to get that right um and um yeah i think i can skip my other comments there were a lot of really good comments and like i said i really encourage um all of you and all of us to continue this discussion and as missy has pointed out um we're looking forward to the presentation next month as well as potential other presentations it could be that we look at cca it could be that we have dte come in here and talk about what what they plan to contribute to the 820 plan um so on and so forth so there's lots lots of options open to us over the next couple of months so cameras i think commissioner hookah might be a muted i heard a ding from his no no he did light up though he did right okay okay chuckling on the phone chuck yeah we didn't we didn't sabotage you on purpose chuck okay so um it's um approaching 8 o'clock and i realized that many of you have other commitments this evening i mean we have some other interesting things going forward so i'm going to bring this agenda point to a close um again thank everybody and um the next topic is energy commission meeting topics and there's been some communication on that already so hopefully we don't have to spend too long missy do you want to take the lead on that yeah and forgive me here i'm just uh moving people around in the space so uh chair mursky apologies are we on policy or are we on topics um according to the agenda um energy commission meeting topics is nest uh i'll share my screen for you all but as the preface for this uh as we started we are really excited about the ideas that commissioners have kind of talked about for a while and we've had uh really great presenters come in and talk about a topic here or topic there and i think i shared with you at a previous commission meeting one of the things i really want to work on from the staff perspective is creating an educational series and chuck uh took us through some beginning of the kind of understanding the grid and how it functions and so there's some technical things about how our energy system operates and then there are of course questions about the levers we have what policies should or could we explore uh what technologies how viable is geothermal in our region what kind of geothermal what's the role of distributed generation how about virtual power storage agreements have a virtual power reduction agreements like there's all kinds of things right and we talk about them a lot in osi and we talk about them a lot in our professional circles and you talk about them a lot as well and we know we have really strong community support for some of these ideas but what we don't think we've done a very good job in at least from the sustainability office side is paint the ecosystem and let folks know there's actually a lot of things that we can explore and there are some things that we can't yet but we could and so we want to understand sort of where our foundational laws and legislation is where there's room to move where there might have to be change and then what levers again we could pull so we went back through some of the previous commission meetings and then we had a meeting with the chair and co-chair and we just started to dump ideas in what are things that we've heard and so what you've got before you is a list of topics and i will share my screen if that's okay with everybody to show the list and i think i'll leave it to your discretion chairmerski on how you want this conversation to go um i think we could quickly see if anyone has any ideas um i believe what we had talked about was i can take suggestions you can send them over to me after and then at the next commission meeting we might actually vote um on the topics in priority order for you so this is hard to see let me blow this up i will not walk through all of these but i'll just pull out some kind of exciting ones uh they're in alphabetical order there's no prioritization i promise so we broadly thought about financing and jay is really interested in offering a lot of uh excitement around the concept of like how we finance the space we're doing a lot on beneficial electrification i've heard talk in the last meeting about the green belt so i've already reached out to the green belt coordinator to come and talk about the intersection of green belt acquisitions with renewable energy generation as i mentioned we've got our energy attorney who is going to come and talk about legislation but there's others right how the grid works 201 so can we give commissioner hook um more time and some others to really talk about the system itself and how power moves um i mentioned some of these fun things at the end virtual we've got power purchase agreements which uh for us often look like most tangibly things like um oh i just totally do a blank on the solar uh solar and houses of worship so we're faithful thank you uh is a version of a power purchase agreement but there are other mechanisms that we can use on-site the city released its rf oh i forgot to share that we released our rfp for on-site solar two weeks ago for about 1.2 megawatts of rooftop solar in ann arbor very exciting we're working on a parallel for the housing commissions but that's a different right that is a behind the meter generation what about uh something like community solar so we've got lots of topics um some of these things are things that have not been done yet here some of these are emerging like a virtual power reduction uh agreement is something we believe we are only one of four states that are unable to do so i've asked the energy attorney to talk a little bit about why this is something we think we could do and what that would look like and um some of you may have seen a large corporation reach that has a goal of being carbon neutral has moved past kind of a commitment to offsetting their emissions and investments in renewables to actually doing a management of load profile so they're bringing in storage to help manage loads so when they're actually pulling from the grid they know they're generating at that same time and they had to do that through a virtual power storage agreement so there's a lot of things that are here i'm going to stop talking and see if any commissioners are really excited about a topic that is not listed that they just want to name but before we do that um i i'm going to step in um so i'm i'm going to open things up back up and i'm going to open things up with the following comments for your consideration and that is um we had a little bit of communication um like missy mentioned osi and carlene and i about how to handle this and our thought was at one time well we're gonna try to do some kind of force ranking tonight and we decided that's probably not a very efficient way of doing it and there may be other ideas that people provide tonight or um if in looking at this you come up with other ideas um then we'd like to have you submit those so um what we would propose to do is if anybody has anything that they want to say tonight that's really important then we would recognize that but the intention is then is to give this as essentially a homework assignment that everybody review this finalize the list then give you some time to do some kind of force ranking we'll provide some kind of process to do that so that when we come back um for our next meeting um we have at least an initial force ranking um and i don't think it's necessarily important that we rank um you know the top um um a through you or whatever the the list ends is that we first get the first five or so and we plan around those and then if there's some new things that emerge then we can also review the force ranking going forward so um if um that's okay with everybody um i would would open up the floor for a few minutes um and then hopefully we can move on so anybody have any comments they want to make right now commissioner hook up still don't hear you chuck can you give me the last three digits of your phone number i know there's no way you can because you can't talk let me see if i have your phone number really quick because i think i need to elevate your phone if you want to um go on i might not be great at counting on the phone if he would raise his hand maybe right yes i think i have him so i got you hold on okay give me mccoy do you want to go first while they're figuring that out and then we'll circle back to uh commissioner okay too much i technology i got two computers and a phone and i can't connect so i apologize for that and um i'll just say you know i could talk a lot i think you've heard me talk a lot i'm experienced in a lot of the buckets a lot of the items on the list right now and i let's just say this way my largest customer is mppa michigan public power agency and i worked with all the munis i think chelsea on down holland lansing you name it we've worked with them i can talk a lot about history of working with them what their thought processes are where they're headed renewables the whole gamut i can talk a lot about ccas i've worked out in california um i i guess it's one of those things where do we start right and what's going to be the biggest uh dent going forward obviously the thing that comes to mind right out of my my mind is energy efficiency we can all do that today no rules no laws no policy we can do it right now and make it make a big difference so some of these others have different uh benefits and costs i can bring a lot of that to the table and i'll just stop there i mean this is a great start um i think a lot of people have said it already let's look at the alternatives let's let's lay it all out i think we need to be cognizant of economics technology and time they all have constraints what do we need to break those constraints how do we move forward in a pathway that makes sense but let's do it pragmatically let's not do it out of passion let's do it out of a well-studied process going forward somebody made the point that we're an educated community let's use that educated body of knowledge and make this look like a semblance that has success to it and we have to define what success is that's really critical too so i'll just stop there and we'll go forward thank you um so um commissioner mccoy then commissioner hetcher then commissioner then council member bricks yeah this is a little different than some of the things that are proposed um but i think it would be helpful um for everyone to hear a presentation just around energy justice and energy democracy i'm thinking like either organizers like the energy democracy organizers for the michigan environmental justice coalition or maybe having u of m's dr tony reams um talk a little bit about energy efficiency and the intersection of justice i just think it's something we talk a lot about but not everyone might not know about and we have a lot of expertise um very close to home thank you teresa hi yeah um in the grid 201 section there's nothing in here about distributed energy resources and so the federal energy regulatory commission had put an order out in 2020 for order 222 which requires rtos to build tariffs that allow distributed energy resource aggregation and then that access to the wholesale markets right and so we're in the midst of figuring out what that means but when we talk about distributed energy resources not necessarily generation resources um because batteries are not generators there are seats but something on that der topic der aggregation in that grid 201 series would probably be helpful because there may be opportunities depending on how the der aggregation plays out over the next couple of years councilmember riggs yeah thanks um so in terms of kind of what i'd love to see um coming next it sounds like it's valerie brader who's coming next month is that right and talking a little more extensively about sort of municipalization but also kind of the legal framework uh legal considerations and i guess i'm not sure i'll just i'm not sure exactly what she's going to be talking on but talking about but i think it would be helpful for our community based on all of the the calls that we got today and maybe forgive me if this has already happened in energy commission before um before i joined on but obviously our the carbon neutrality plan that was adopted by council last year had sort of a framework of community choice kind of is our strategy moving forward and i think really explicitly having a conversation around that and some of the trade-offs of of how where that feedback came from what the what what led to that decision um to to include that sort of framework within our plan because um we're obviously hearing a lot from the community about um sort of either having a dual strategy or another strategy and i i guess i would i'd love to see us um very more quickly diving into that conversation and and really building um strong understanding from for myself but also for for others in the community about um why our the our you know our current plan lays a certain path in front of us um we still have some hands up that those may be holdovers um except we see commissioner cleavy i think yours is new your mute is still marked there you go energy grid 201 i i think you know we have an opportunity we have an awful lot of hydropower just sitting in and mothballs i know chuck has raised this issue a number of times but perhaps under the energy grid 201 we could have a you know whatever whatever the latest thinking is on hydropower and ann arbor if if it's viable um add that that in and certainly if we're gonna look at municipalization or cca it seems like our hydropower uh capabilities should at least be considered um that's okay with you commissioner phoebe i'm going to propose that as a separate topic that fits elsewhere and looking at the city actually does generate quite a bit of hydropower and so i think that warrants its own discussion with the experts in that space and the other one is is the 2030 district um seems that behind the meter solar and and 2030 district is the logical place we've got an awful lot of commercial operations and again whatever path we choose to go down this is going to be well beyond just residential power and municipal buildings and and uh figuring out how to how to do this we could do behind the meter commercial power now do it get somebody to move on it anyone else i think what we see here is a lot of material to cover a lot of learning cycles um but obviously um we have a sense of urgency we need to have a sense of urgency that was made abundantly clear by the callers and so we need to also have a lot of action cycles um so again as i mentioned um missy will figure out um how to get something out this this document um maybe we can have a call in the next couple of days um we welcome additional additions um one that i might throw out there is that we anticipate getting a carbon neutrality plan from the university of michigan sometime around the end of this month and so what is the intersection and independencies between what we do and what they do um and we don't know that yet but um we will knew that know that hopefully um here in the next month or two so that's another another thing we can talk about collaboration exactly so um take a look at this we'll get this back out to you we welcome your comments on new topics maybe how to bundle these and um then maybe we'll figure out a way to also have you force rank these very good good i it's been a really great meeting i really appreciate everybody it's you know been great from the public as well as from all of you i'm really encouraged by this meeting so um missy we i at least i'm missing it on my agenda but i know we wanted to talk about it and that was on um policy aspects um i don't see it on the agenda but i think you're able to talk about it correct i am and i have um i have updated the agenda on legistar although you're not this updated file because i honestly um got recommendations very good i printed it out about 24 hours ago or so no that's fair so um the way this is gonna have to well first let me let me say i'm i'm not sure how this fell through the cracks oh craps that was freudian the cracks uh we went back and looked and we didn't see any correspondence so i'm sorry this is coming a little 11 59th hour basically what happens for those who may not have noticed or seen previous emails the the commissions get asked as do staff for recommendations of policy that often it's state policy uh at least for the last four years has been state policy uh now it is also federal policy that we want to see uh promoted or enhanced or changed very candidly if necessary and the various commissions uh kind of bring some ideas forward they can be voted on by the commission they often aren't they're just kind of ideas they then get put together with all the commissions across the city a staff ad and then they go to the council policy committee for review and prioritization and then counsel that committee themselves will determine what the top priorities are they will then go to our lobbyists uh to support and push for so uh of course the energy commission is really really important the good news is we as staff are laser focused on energy so we had a lot of the ideas kind of already present but what i've got before you um is an updated memo and i will happily circulate circulate this to folks the problem is we we have until thursday to finish it which means i have to finish it thursday so i have to get comments back for you pretty much tomorrow morning to make this work so i've taken all the comments i've received from people and organized them so thank you so much to the commissioners who've shared this is wide ranging concepts i think we ended up with 27.
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um ideas that we have everything ranging from supporting the types of legislation we talked about today um to changing our tax uh our tax incentive the itc the tax credit to being a rebate right so more people can access because they don't have to have a tax appetite and or they don't have to have the upfront capital to make these investments to adding the state itself having its own additional tax rebates so we're continuing to lower the costs and then there are things uh that came out from the ev landscape really critical here things about parity with registration fees um allowing direct sales to customers um per uh the motor vehicle franchise act and so there's a there's a lot here what i wanted to do what i would love to know is if anyone has something that they're like chewing on that they didn't get a chance to check to share and this is your moment to name it and if if no one does i'll send this out immediately after the meeting so folks can then just write back to me um anybody have anything to throw out real quickly i had just sent a meeting or an email to you like pretty last minute missy so i just wanted to confirm that you sucked out it yeah i definitely have that um amber yours is the only one that's not fully in here yet but like i put placeholders for it so i'll get that in before i circulate it to everyone okay very good missy i'm gonna throw one out that just came up um in the webinar that i participated in earlier today i don't believe it's on the list and that is um third party um demand response um bundling um so in the state of michigan um utilities are the only one entities able to do that and in other states there are third parties that are able to do it um i don't know um how much uh benefit that brings in terms of um innovation and things like that i mean the basic policy is is is there but um whether the third party brings a benefit that's something to at least look into um commissioner george and commission councilman briggs uh thank you mr chairman uh just a quick question um uh as i'm uh still somewhat new to the commission um historically uh maybe this is a question to you mr chairman or missy uh what is the commission's stance and the city's uh lobbying position on nuclear ben on nuclear power the commission took a vote on that several years ago um and um my recollection is i was new on the commission at the time was that um we were opposed to new at least certainly new nuclear power i don't remember um commissioner cleavy do you remember if we took a position on um existing nuclear power i don't know if our position was that we we encouraged the city to um just support re-licensing of furry two um because they were going to do a bunch of expansion there and through through a bunch of efficiencies they were actually able to increase the power up with there um and that uh you know that we were in support of of them looking at bringing fermi three online at some some point in the future because they they're one of those six utilities in the nation i think that actually has been uh authorized to um chuck and probably do this better but six utilities in the nation they've been licensed by ferc to do a new nuclear power plant but they don't have any plans to to do so um the uh if you remember the dte said that they really appreciated uh our support but they just assumed not acknowledge it because uh they didn't want to uh this was such a sort of a slam dunk re-licensing so they thank you very much but um they didn't accept our support for their idea but um i would encourage anybody who's interested this to go take the tour out there it's very interesting going to furniture and looking at seeing what goes on out there it is a the largest source of renewable energy in the state and it's just been re-licensed john can i add to mark yeah go ahead please check so thanks for the compliment mark i designed and built for me amongst the thousand other engineers so thank you for that so burma 2 is re-licensed it's uh licensed ex license was extended to 2040ish um fermi 3 is it was a license approved by the nrc but the boiling water reactor that was configured for that project never made it through nrc so it's pretty much parked right now it's still a viable license that could be acted upon but it's going to take a fair amount of time to bring back um unfortunately what we're seeing are other nuclear plants in the states expiring in their licenses and so we're going to lose nuclear power that was part of my presentation last week but i'd be happy to talk more about what we did in the past and what we could do going forward robert okay yeah i was just curious because i know that and the rush to try to get to as as green as possible as quickly as possible and you know looking at what's happened in japan and germany with the closure of the nuclear plants there with replacement with coal i was just curious what we were doing locally or like what our local position was so i don't i don't want to get in a prolonged discussion obviously it's late but i did i was just curious on that if nuclear was at all mentioned missy in that document that you we can dig up that old resolution and and send it around um just one one comment if i may well i have the floor and then um councilman briggs and then um missy stoltz wants to speak to again i think um i i would i would encourage all of us to also can do lifelong learning outside of commission meetings i had a email exchange with another commissioner earlier this week about resources and we traded resources there's a lot of just tremendous material um you know on youtube on um podcasts um blogs etc and i i really encourage you to to look up on some of those topics if you have something that you're particularly interested in you can email me or um or missy and we can trade uh resources but i want to encourage people to do that outside the the context of these meetings because there's just sometimes there's just too much to cover in the meetings so councilmember briggs yeah thanks um i just wanted to give a little bit more um background um on the about the policy committee which council member redanna and i both serve on um i was um surprised i guess that there actually wasn't more prioritization on the list because it's a very have really long list of policy priorities for the city and um our lobbyist uh obviously has repeat for a very limited time with our lobbyists and that's actually one of the things that we're planning not well maybe not planning it's being presented as an option of of where we might cut our budget this year for for covid um as well so we might might it's potential that we might scale back a lot more um my understanding in terms of how staff uses it is is more of an opportunity that if something arises um it provides a little bit of freedom to be able to jump in on an issue that might become current as well so i guess a longer list is not necessarily bad i guess i would just ask dr stoltz especially to maybe take a a look at what our our long list is and make sure that there's not anything on there that's been sitting around for a long time that maybe shouldn't be there anymore um or is contradictory um in any sort of way um with with our with our goals i haven't looked through that lens and you'd be able to do it a lot more effectively and if there is then certainly let us know so that we could um serve in that and then obviously remember that we are serving on that committee so we are happy to keep pushing um as much as we can for our limited uh uh lobbying power to to focus on certain issues i don't have a question commissioner um if the if the lobbying budget is cut um i know the office of uh sustainability innovation has testified um in partnership with glrea and a number of things in lansing stuff would that curtail that no it would okay so it's more just kind of how our external contract with a certain firm um yeah well i would think on renewables if that happens there's a number of organizations i won't i can't speak for the ecology center but i certainly can speak for glrea that you know we'd be happy to step up and and hop out even more on renewable energy things and we work closely with the house so um you know that happens then then you know i can see five organizations represented on here who who lobby and uh perhaps we should all get together and see what we can do here yeah black missy um and then carlene yeah just procedurally to let folks know the way that we are thinking about bringing these recommendations forward since we won't have a formal vote of the body is it'll come through osi so we will do that prioritization of that ranking based on that that's for the policies the good news is uh having worked on it a lot today i can tell you we don't have a lot of conflict uh but there are things that are low-hanging fruit there are things that are more complicated so we'll need to strategize a bit so i promise to do that and then i wanted to share uh chair murky to your point about lifelong learning the intent really this is the previous agenda item for me but the intent with the training series is i hope we actually turn them into short pithy videos that go on a website for people to be able to access and so we're kind of in some ways um the this body with osi staff get to do a deeper dive but the intent really is that we make these much more digestible nuggets that sort of live for our community to access so i just wanted to name that we're hoping to really build a training infrastructure if you will for new commissioners for our residents and others to get up to speed and stay up to speed because the landscape's moving fast if i can riff on that real quickly one thing we might consider doing missy is when we're going to consider a topic um as pre-study if people are able and um interested look at these one or two resources and then we're going to take the topic and we're going to look at it particularly from an ann arbor perspective so if you want to look at it generally there's going to be a lot of general resources in the public domain but then you know whatever that topic is what is what is a particular interest in terms of ann arbor and its circumstances and the policy situation in michigan and so on and so forth so maybe we can sort of pair those up and provide resources for people to look at outside of these meetings do double piggyback on missy and you john it would be really uh convenient for us to have a shared document that we can that we can uh post our our resources you know and uh share with the commission members the um like reliable and um verifiable information for each upcoming discussion topic for our meetings or anything else and being that we are such an educated community we're very capable of organizing them in a in a very logical fashion to share great idea um i missy did we talk need to talk anything else about policy okay so any other ideas out okay um so we can go on to um the last big chunk but hopefully we can keep this brief we have um committee updates um i don't think all of these committees are up and running so i'm just going to recognize people who raise their hand who want to give a committee update how about if we handle it that way i think we're all either tired of talking and listening or whatever but i think we had a lot covered a lot of great material so we don't need to cover anymore so um what that leaves us with then is um the second uh public uh comment period and i'm going to read the directions again sorry for having to hit the replay on this but again this is an opportunity for people to speak for up to three minutes if you're watching on ctn call 888.7880 or 877-853-5247 enter the meeting number 913-5783-4502 um this information is on the agenda it's on the video feed as well um and staff will recognize you one by one using the last three digits of your phone number um and in order to electronically raise your hand plus star nine and missy then we'll see that and we will recognize you um please state your name and your address at the beginning of your comments might have a little bit of a delay not too much and yet tara mursky okay what i'm going to do is um missy if you can continue to monitor that that would be great and then i'd like to open it up for items for the next agenda i think in a sense we've already covered that but if it's not in the realm of the topics that we've discussed i'd like to recognize anybody that um wants to throw an idea out anybody have anything that they'd like us to consider you do have one person in public comment oh i do okay great you want to recognize him last three digits 627.
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hello can you all hear me we can hi i'm connor davidson i'm a resident of ann arbor in ward 5. i'm calling to speak in favor of energy municipalization um i've been living in antarctica for about 10 years now and paying dp directly or indirectly the entire time as some of the people who called in at the beginning and as presenters mentioned epe is more fossil fuel dependent on other utilities and across the nation and has no near-term goal to change that we're a historical moment where we don't have any time to waste burning carbon and it is appalling to me as a resident of the city uh that we are spending our money to give it to a corporation who is working against our own goals as a city who you know we who pass the eight to zero plan and have a lot of goals around the natural environment and dte is using their profits to promote fossil fuel consumption and lobby against decarbonization and just as an example of what dt is using their money for the detroit metro times investigation in 2019 found that every customer bill from dte is inflated by about 13 a month just to fulfill their investor obligations that's money that all of us in ann arbor are spending that we could be using to install solar wind power or repairing the barton dam but instead that's going to someone who probably lives outside the community they're doing all this but we don't have a choices if we offer the municipal utility we'd be able to control where that money is going and do things that align with what we want to do as a city with the a20 plan and i fully support municipalization and i hope you do as well great thank you very much anyone else can see yep caller two one five yeah hi can you hear me yes you can wonderful um my name is matt sarah sweeney i am a graduate student here at uh um and i have actually i've been in ann arbor for quite a long time i was here for undergrad as well so i've been around for about been an ann arbor resident for about eight years now um and i like so many others tonight i'm just calling to speak in favor of the um the call for a study on municipalization um an enormous amount of really great points have already been made and i don't know that i have anything more that's very unique to add but i did want to say that the presentation that a2 public power gave tonight was really really i found incredibly effective and um really robust and convincing um and i mean especially in demonstrating that you know super effectively i think that dte's goals are just totally not aligned with what ann arbor um is you know supposedly committed to um i also wanted to note just like listening to the public comments earlier um was pretty remarkable and i and i hope you all take seriously the support from um state representatives um erwin and robbie they're you know the way i see that at least is they're trying to do what they can to make this politically safe as you know as politically safe as possible for you um and i think it's really important to recognize that you have those uh champions at the state level um so i just wanted to you know sort of emphasis re-emphasize what they're saying um and i think one last point that i wanted to make in response to uh one of the commissioner's question earlier about you know making sure that this can get done in a reasonable time frame um municipalization does indeed take a while uh but we know for a fact that dte is not doing this on a reasonable time frame um so it just seems like moot point to me you know if we're sticking with with dte we are assured to not be doing it on a reasonable time frame um yeah and i think just lastly you know this is an enormous win it would be an enormous win for energy democracy um and i think that is really critical for uh for you know fighting climate change in the coming years um and so i hope you take it seriously thank you we thank you anyone else missy yeah caller with the last extension two four five i hear that someone else is still speaking is that right no there is some background noise but go ahead we hear you okay okay uh well good evening members of the energy commission and chair john mursky i am kathleen murphy i live at 315 linda vista street in ann arbor that's ward 5 and i work with ann arbor indivisible and recently i've been following the work of ann arbor for public power i'm a committed environmentalist worried very much about the future of the planet and the fate of all living things i have been tremendously inspired by ann arbor's commitment to carbon neutrality by 2030 as well as the very impressive work of the a20 project i became intrigued with the concept of municipalization when i learned about those cities in michigan and around the country that had tried it i wondered how this concept could be helpful to the city or to the ace to zero project to reach their goals more efficiently municipalization is a concept that seems oriented toward the future it combines a full commitment to clean energy with the empowerment of the anna republic to own and control their own electrical grid thus it seems to offer an additional pathway for achieving ann arbor's and a20s carbon neutrality goal by 2030.
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yet municipalization or energy grid poses many challenges that need further study many of those have come out tonight the ann arbor for public power group seems willing to take on that study i was excited to see their presentation here tonight and i hope that you energy commissioners were also now that the biden-harris administration is trying to aggressively deal with the climate crisis the political environment for meeting the climate crisis head on is improving it's possible that municipalization might find additional support in this new political environment so i joined with those who have spoken up earlier from municipalities to encourage you energy commissioners to seriously explore the possibility of a municipal electric utility in ann arbor thank you very much that's all the public tutors is that it i would just like to respond and say we we are inspired by all the speakers tonight i mean we really appreciate it and um i'd like to remind everybody that um when we started first talking about a carbon neutrality plan for ann arbor the date was 2040 and then there was a lot of input and it moved up to 2035 and then when it was voted on by council was moved up to 2030.
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so um this this whole process of engagement and passion and reason and um everything is is a good mix and i think um the fact that we had all these voices tonight was really important and we're going to look forward to a lot of other voices on on related topics um here in the coming months and hopefully that will enable all of us to plot a reasonable plan going forward and make good choices um that we can really enact quickly so i want to thank again all of the commissioners comments as well as all the people that called in today it was a great meeting i think um so i truncated the discussion although i don't know what needs to be carried on much longer agenda items for the next meeting any new ideas going going gone so uh it is now 8 39 p.m and i adjourn this meeting thanks everybody tonight for your commitment to this topic and these topics and i look forward to our meeting next month you
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one good afternoon thank you for joining us for our committee on education and actually we are starting out with a joint hearing with the committee on higher education also it's wednesday february 10th through conference room 229 this meeting including the audio and video of remote participants is being streamed live on youtube you will find links to viewing options for all senate meetings on the live and on demand video page of the legislature's website the zoom meeting and youtube live stream event will include the three o'clock pm joint agenda for the committee on education and the committee on higher education the 302 pm decision making agenda for the committee on education and the 305 pm agenda for the committee on education in the unlikely event that we have to abruptly end this hearing due to major technical difficulties the committees will reconvene to discuss an outstanding any outstanding business at friday february 12 3 o'clock p.m any public notice will be posted on the legislature's website i'd like to take this time to remind our testifiers that due to time restrictions on our hearings we will be limiting testimony to one minute per testifier per bill for the people participating remotely all testifier audio will be muted and video disabled until shortly before it is your turn to testify when i call your name staff will unmute you and your time will begin after your minute is completed staff will mute you so that we can move this hearing along in an orderly and efficient manner thank you starting with senate bill 245 on our three o'clock agenda joint meeting with committee on education and committee on higher education relating to education requires the department of education's existing free application for federal student aid also known as fafsa working group to create a state plan to make completion of the fafsa or an up opt-out waiver a statewide graduation requirement requirement by the 2023-2024 school year requires a report to the 2022 legislature to testify terry ushijima assistant superintendent department of education please good afternoon cherokee dhani vice chairman carlo kim and members of the committee interior interim assistant superintendent with the department of education testifying on behalf of superintendent christina kishimoto the department stands on our written testimony and provides comments to senate bill 245 while we agree that there is much merit in completing the fafsa as it provides an important resource for families to afford college we respectfully know that the department has concerns about making fafsa a graduation uh requirement along with the possible opt-out option as for this as stated in the reasons in our testimony our state has performed above the national average for the fastest completion rate over the past three years and we are committed to continue to promote the fafsa completion within the department and with education partners to provide additional support to students to increase the number of completions thank you for the opportunity to testify the department is available for questions thank you terry members questions another question senator keith agaron yeah i'm just curious in the text of the proposed bill it cites that the goal for the department is 90 and you've been hovering at about 60 but your testimony said that the numbers are actually quite much lower and doesn't mention any goal of fafsa completion does the department have 90 percent goal yes it's an internal goal and we continue to strive to get 90 but um we have not reached 90 percent what about the 60 that is cited in in the bill are you at 60 or are you at the 37 or so that isn't a testimony um that's where we are currently at this point in january and so we still have till the rest of june to get the completion rate for this year for 2020 our completion rate was 60.2 percent that was above the average rate of 55.6 and the highest completion rate so far amongst the states has been 78.7 percent well if you have an internal goal of 90 then with the caveats are in this bill about dealing with some of the issues that are brought up by yourselves and other testifiers what's wrong with with pursuing what's what's called for this bill so we agree that the fafsa is very important and we would like to encourage as many students and parents to complete that as possible we are concerned if it becomes the graduation requirement as or even with an opt-out option as the fafsa um it's the parents must complete it and there are other possible concerns that we are worried about for example um you know some of the messaging that may go out may may indicate that college or allude that college might be the only option whereas it is a very viable option that we would like students to have and we want them to have opportunities but it's not the only only option so why do you have a 90 internal goal then we have we think it's important for all our students who have options and if they choose to go to college then this is a possible way to help with the financial aspect of that opportunity okay well you didn't answer my question so why are you at 90 as an internal goal if you have all these concerns about sending out the wrong message um we the the message is having it as a graduation requirement we we want to continue to strive for that 90 percent goal however the you're saying is that college isn't for everybody and there are other things to make someone um you know a good graduate and a contributing member of our community why are you setting the goal of 90 for fafsa because fafsa is basically for people that are aiming to go to college uh it's a very aspirational goal and we would like students to have whatever options they choose whatever opportunities they seek and depending on their aspirations all right whatever thank you thank you chair thank you members further questions if not we're going to recess to deliberate on this bill recess the senate committee in education and higher education were reconvening committee meeting on senate bill number after the discussion the senate committee and education chair was is recommending that we pass out senate bill five as is members questions if not chair votes eye cheerful tie on center bill 245 uh uh vice chair hold side senator de la cruz all right senator hi voting an affirmative recommendation for doctors thank you for the committee on higher ed same recommendation to pass senate bill 245 amended chair vote sign chair kim votes eye manager donnie votes aye senator keith agaron senator wakai excuse senator favela measures adopted madam chair thank you very much and hearing for the higher education committee thank you this meeting is adjourned and we are going next agenda for decision making this is decision making only for senate bill 7-6 proposed sd1 relating to education the proposed sd1 requires that the board of education prioritize for the superintendent of education position candidates that have a minimum qualification of 10 years of employment in a department of education with at least five of those years serving in the capacity as a principal or hire and a desired qualification for a candidate is having a working understanding of the state's tri-level system of educational administration again this is uh decision making only members questions again seven senate bill 76 proposed sd1 relating to education recommendation is to pass with amendments and we will insert the proposed draft and recommit this bill back to this committee on education members questions if not thank you um she has a vote yep okay so so no questions on senate bill 76 chair votes eye okay so the chair votes eye on senate bill 76 this is a short form bill that is being amended to put in the proposed language correct and then recommend correct i uh vice chair vote tyson dela cruz all right thank you that adjourned that hearing now we are on the 305 agenda committee on education to hear senate bill 815 relating to education funding establishes the maintenance of effort provisions establishes a public education stabilization trust fund makes appropriations okay to testify catherine payne oops i'm on the right one here catherine payne chair person board of education catherine please aloha chair kidani vice chair kim and members of the committee the board of education supports the intent of sb 815 which would establish a maintenance of effort provision for public education and establish a public school stabilization fund we support proposed legislation that preserves funding and resources for student learning at the classroom level including our most vulnerable students who are economically disadvantaged english learners or receiving special education services we support establishing a minimum level of funding for public education or a funding floor which would provide much needed funding stability and predictability the rest of my testimony is in written form and was submitted to your committee i'll be available if you have questions thank you members questions if not moving on the next testifier is superintendent christina kishimoto dr kishimoto please aloha chair kidani vice chairman cardo kim and members of the committee this legislation is sb 815 i stand the strong support of it this legislation is of utmost importance in solidifying hawaii's commitment to equity and empowerment for all public school students a school learner our school leaders rely on adequate and predictable funding to provide innovative learning opportunities stable funding will provide our schools the security they need to implement programs as students needs and aspirations evolve without the worry of budget cuts and the need to decrease offerings a hawaii maintenance of effort commitment will ensure educational funding remains constant from year to year providing for comprehensive student supports and preventing drastic educational inequities among students the enactment of this legislation will ensure high quality public education system that is supported and funded by our state with adequacy equity predictability and stability thank you dr kishimoto members questions hearing no questions we're moving on to our next testifier corey rosenly president hawaii state teachers association corey please thank you chair kadani hsta supports sb 815 but we do suggest amendments the first part we do like we have seen the proportion of the amount of the dua's budget decrease from 20 uh 23.1 percent in fiscal year 2014 to 19.7 percent in fiscal year 23.
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at this time i'd like to be meeting to order let the record reflect that all members are present and let's rise for the pledge of allegiance i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all all right first up we have audience with individuals one person asking to address the board i'll go ahead and read the statement this is a time for the public to comment members of the board may not discuss items that are not specifically identified on the agenda pursuant to ars 38-431.01 h action taken as a result of public comment will be limited to directing staff to study the matter responding to any criticism or scheduling the matter for future consideration and decision at a later date in order to facilitate accomplishing the business of the district in a timely manner a time limit of three minutes will be imposed for each individual or group addressing the board when you approach the podium please state your name for the record and tonight we have hannah edwards good afternoon board members my name is hannah edwards a parent of first grader anthony edwards at rancho gabriela when the school reopened the campus we ended up choosing high school option with our existing classroom teacher mrs gentle and this was after an unsuccessful attempt at in-person learning due to mask difficulties anthony has been having an excellent grades of in all of his main curriculum core curriculum including math ela science and social studies when while we did have some difficulties with special teachers back in december we had resolved this matter adequately although we were hoping for some version of hybrid learning where anthony could um attend some specials in person instead last friday high school parents and teachers received an email from the district with that specials will be optional become optional in the individual classroom teachers being taken away and replaced with one instructor for all grades from k to four to fours i wasn't the only one surprised of this change so close to the end of school year after calling the school and district offices i discovered that this change was done in response to some teachers reporting the online students being absent failing or falling behind not benefiting from the current high school setup however however anthony is not falling into this category and is thriving and successful with the existing format the complete change of what anthony knows his first grade experience would be traumatic and for him and detrimental to his learning process when our older kid moved to surprise from peorium we made sure we uh they finished the school before we transferred them we spoke to mrs gentle earlier this week who um agrees that the change so close to the end of this year is not necessary and she offered that if the district would allow she would continue to provide anthony the same format that he's accustomed to therefore we respectfully ask for the ability to finish the first grade with the with mrs gentle as all parties on board with this option thank you do i need to answer any questions i appreciate you would consider this thank you for your time madam president administration will follow up with the edwards on this matter thank you next we have superintendent and governing board updates dr kellis and president members of the board we're going to start out with a student update and we have several students representatives from the dicer student leadership council like to invite them to come forward and share what's going on with our student body uh good evening board members dr kelson cabinet my name is peyton takolvi i am louise and i'm aubrey and we are all from valley vista and members of the dysart student leadership council we first wanted to start off and share our coven 19 relief and canned food drive that we've been working on we have drop-off sites at all five of our high schools and many of our elementary schools as well as the district office west mec and some community locations and businesses we're currently continuing to add more drop-off locations as we've had a lot of participation we've also completed our mascot campaign at all of our high schools this includes specific site signage and a student produced promotional video and that is the only update we have for you guys today and now we're going to show you guys this valley vista's mascot video we wear our math because we want to have a zen police i wear masks because it keeps everyone and me safe i wear my mask so i can participate in athletics and other extracurriculars that i do i wear my mask to keep myself and others safe i wear a mask because i care about the safety of others i wear my mask to keep my loved ones safe i wear my mask so we can stay in person at school i wear a mask to protect those around me i wear my mask to protect everyone around me i wear a mask so that i can protect my students and so that we can be here to actually learn together in person i wear my mask to keep everyone around me and myself safe including my husband and my daughter who have underlying medical conditions i wear my mascat valley to protect myself and to protect others and so we can continue in-person learning and have our cool school activities i wear a mask to keep myself and the people around me safe i mask up for my friends my family and my peers because i know i need to keep them safe and everyone else safe and i just want to have a fun high school experience and this is one of the ways i can keep everyone safe and have fun at the same time i wear a mask in order to protect myself and those around me we wear our mask because it's the right thing to do [Music] [Applause] i'd like to thank mr gresaber uh for his leadership over the ambassador student leadership council and to each of our student leaders for recognizing this as an opportunity to help students all over the district understand the importance of wearing their masks each high school including i believe sundown is going to be creating a video this is one that has been done and the others are either done or in progress so this is a a very nice thing that they're doing so thank you very much awesome can't wait to see the others too thank thank you next we have the superintendent update thank you madam president members of the board i would like to first start off by saying how much we appreciate our school counselors last week was counselor appreciation week and i can't tell you how much all of our employees are doing extraordinary things on a daily basis our counselors have had the added responsibility of tracking student progress in a very difficult time whether they're online or in person and helping them to stay on track for graduation they work with students individually with personal situations or or group situations but um i mean i could just probably spend a half hour listing all the things that they do but dyster is very fortunate to have the counselors that we do and our students most of all have just been incredibly um benefited by the extraordinary work that our counselors do each and every day so congratulations to our counselors under counselor appreciation week there's a lot of things happening at the legislature some of the more interesting ones are starting to get a little bit of traction i have been adding a little attachment it's not actually it's about 30 pages long but an attachment of the most current legislative bills each each week to the board if you have any questions about those ken hicks is our legislative liaison and feel free to send any questions to ken who's keeping tabs on everything education and then i also want to thank everybody in the district who is doing your part to keep us safe under covid and who's implementing the safety protocols it is because of the extraordinary protocols we have in place that people are following that we are able to stay in person to that note there's a lot of opinion a lot of frustration a lot of successes a lot of celebrations but just want our community to know that we are listening parents have expressed frustration about the amount of teacher access student access to teachers and so we've made some changes to have dedicated teachers for students who are online teachers have expressed challenge with teaching dual platform both online and in-person students at the same time and also to address that we have changed up some of the structures of the schools leaving it up to each school we're looking at air quality solutions substitute shortage solutions um it really is a a lot of things that it seems like you're we're always making changes and that was true back in march as we're learning and adapting and even today as we learn and adapt of how to provide that extraordinary learning experience we are trying to be responsive but also planning ahead and looking at ways to make sure that our students have a learning opportunity that's all i have to report thank you dr kellis i would just like to to echo what you said about the counselors i can tell you that my children have greatly benefited from their counselors specifically at valley vista i know that my daughter has changed her schedule for next year probably at least four or five times and probably another four or five to go so constantly changing what she's interested in um so i just appreciate them and and all of their work that they do for all of our students that was it yeah um well mrs schafen and i we attended the uh arizona school board association on zoom not attended uh boltz training which is a board orientation and leadership training and then today i with dr kellis i had a wonderful morning visiting riverview thompson ranch sundown and el mirage so it was a dysart day for me today uh just a couple of things real quick um i do believe this month is cte month is that correct mr grishaver all right so um if uh folks do not know what cte is see that gentleman that's over there cte is for career and technical education and you can't just put a student into one box there are so many opportunities for students whether they go to college whether they go into the vocational field there are so many opportunities and so i am very appreciative of everything the cte has to offer so thank you yes national council school counselors week was last week showed appreciation to all of our counselors it was a great week for them a company dr kellis to hand out a couple of the extraordinary pins it's always great to see people smiling underneath their mask you can actually see them smile when they receive a pen so you can look underneath and actually see them smile congratulations to the i call them the fine five of the arts teachers that are nominees for the governor's awards there were a total of 27 nominees and five of them came from dysart that is phenomenal so you know we have the three a's for dice art it's arts athletics and academics see i need that one but uh congratulations to those five and we're hoping to hear good things on march at least march 26th or something like that uh i wanted to give a big big shout out to um dysart education foundation d'ia uh each year they give to our seniors that are graduating scholarships that they go on to whether they go into medicine whether they go into architecture or something like that and they are they actually let us know what those kiddos are doing while they're in their first year their second year or third year of college and um it is really good facebook is a great thing if it's used right um but def puts up their um the contact that they've had with the students once they've left dysart and uh have used the funds from these scholarships so um i just have to give def a big uh shout out um because they keep us posted with the students and everything and uh i think that is it that's enough yeah all right next we have the consent agenda items i'll entertain a motion i'll move the board approve consent agenda items as presented second um are you waiting for me yes no hers didn't pop up mine didn't pop up okay so you give me a verbal yes i'm like come on you can do it are you logged in are you logged into the meeting oh i don't know let me check i'm logged in all right we're good give her just a second okay nexus information all right so next we have um item f1 dr kellis thank you madam president members of the board and members of cabinet this evening we continue with our regular monitoring of board policies if you have taken a close look at this agenda item and the attached revisions that are proposed we are looking at a possible solution to some previous board action and the modifications that are added there are intended to reflect um some of those modifications as it relates to the discontinuance of policy governance and there will be some more conversation this evening with the board and then later at our study session next week where we will also have more in-depth conversations about policy and moving forward but what is here tonight is just a first read and it's an attempt to take a stab at modifying our current policies to better reflect um the the will of the board so this is just information as a first read happy answering questions about these i had a question on 9.3 so um we have the red line where it redlines the superintendent shall not fail to and that's in the last paragraph but there is one where that is still included and that's in the third paragraph i don't know if that was an oversight or if that was intentional because that is still maybe a legal requirement madam president that second sentence can be rewritten to reflect that but there is um some statute that does allow the superintendent powers to close schools as needed under these bullets that are presented but yes um that can be adjusted to [Music] a language that's more reflective okay of a more traditional policy governing model okay that was the only item i had i had one question regarding policy 9.22 textbook supplementary materials selection adoption and as far as when the committee brings forth a recommendation what's that process like for an example is it the expectation that that committee actually read the materials themselves is there like a criteria that we use as a measure to guide whether or not it meets you know a certain set of standards for our district can you explain any of that i just want to make sure that we know what we're passing on to our teachers and students yes and a lot of this is also driven by statute the curriculum adoption process that allows more mandates some public observation of the materials first but there's a committee that is formed whenever we go out for an adoption of new curriculum there's a difference if you're considering the content versus the materials so the content is provided by the materials a publisher will provide the materials the the content of the curriculum it's what is being taught and how it's being taught as the resources so we present both of those to are public the committee will review those based on state standards which are all published by the arizona department of education if we are out of compliance with those state standards then we are necessarily required to tweak our curriculum um and then as far as the committee's recommendations sometimes it takes an entire summer if they are bringing in for example a social studies curriculum they'll bring in teachers from all the different grade levels i don't know if there's 18 teachers there but there there could be um a lot of teachers plus uh curriculum specialists who are over that particular content area they review the standards they look at our current materials they look at multiple publisher products so it could be that if there are six or seven publishers they will often send materials to be reviewed um and they'll decide what recommendation to make to the governing board as far as the purchase of those materials and then it's a package that is then presented to the board for approval i don't know if that answers your question as far as process yeah so in regard to like curriculum things that answers my question but i think i'm speaking more toward like supplemental materials so for example sometimes english teachers will have a supplemental reading list and and so i know that those and if they're not board approved and you have to sign the like the parent permission slip acknowledging they're not but for the ones that are approved i'm saying are those books put through a process at a bare minimum have they been read by a district staff member to ensure that you know certain and that's why i asked about that list of maybe criteria or measures that we use to say okay are there certain things that we just absolutely do not want to pass on to or into our classroom like obviously politically driven bias or something like that or other areas where you know we just want to know that if we're going to approve it someone's read it dr pauline i'm going to refer to you i don't believe that there's a checklist of check check check check if it's met all these certain criteria of items but i know that there are some guidelines that come you want to explain that yes and supplementals often come from the teacher level things that they have vetted are recommending and that's passed up to district staff who also vet it before being recommended some of those supplemental materials could be recommendations from the publisher that come with the the curriculum adoption if we for example get a new math curriculum they might send i'll make it easier and say language arts curriculum they might send class sets of novels that go with that curriculum it might not be that the teachers have read all the books that come with that package deal the bundle but they could be adopted as part of that bundle do we feel like just to be responsible or just for the liability of it that we should not maybe not if we're not purchasing all the the recommended bundle but whatever books out of that bundle we may decide to pass on to the students would it be um reasonable to ask maybe the the staff to read it prior to forwarding up to the board to approve it to say okay this is definitely suitable to pass on to our students having someone trusted like an employee any of our employees should be able to read it and say yes i professionally i believe that this is something appropriate to put on a list i would say that that was definitely an expectation that whenever a committee brings together a recommendation to the governing board to approve curriculum and materials associated with that that they have thoroughly vetted the materials with the support of the district office staff i think what may be more challenging is after a bundle or a curriculum resources have been adopted on the onset perhaps there's a a literary classic that wasn't part of the original bundle but that supports the curriculum objectives and it could be that there's a class set of those books that are assigned to the class to read what you'll see more and more is that there's a list of options of three or four books that the students can choose from that meet the same objectives but if a student feels uncomfortable reading huckleberry finn then there are other options that they could read to get the same meet the same objectives okay you would think that it would probably be part of the procedure that's what i was asking yeah so like is it part of the procedure that someone would have read that book before it's even on that list i will say that someone you know either probably teacher level has probably read that book but not necessarily the district that will vet it do research on it but you know our supplemental book list is like 2 000 books long and so i i cannot say district staff has read every one of those books but they are completely vetted on you know on the the research behind them and are there controversies why are we recommending it etc i would also say madam president spritcher that it would be my expectation that before any teacher presents a lesson that they're familiar with the content of the lesson that they're teaching i would like that i would like to know that before they pass on a book they someone has read it to make sure that it's appropriate because i know that there's been times when it's just we discover things after the fact that then we might pull the books later that if we could just make sure that like you're saying that the expectation is that it's read before it's even put on a list for a student to choose from and i would extend that to videos to websites to magazines to books to any ancillary materials that are presented in a lesson so that's the only piece if that's not really clearly stated in there that i would ask to be considered in that process exactly how you've said it not just the books but any videos things like that okay thank you just to clarify is that in the acquisition of supplementary or is that in the committee piece for curriculum uh madam president that will most likely end up in the uh procedures when with the more detail um but un under the supplementary instructional materials there will be a reference that we will add to that that says procedures will be put in place to ensure that all materials have been properly reviewed vetted whatever that language may be okay thank you other discussion on this or any of the other policies okay moving on to the transportation update dr thank you madam president members of the board in our effort to continue to provide information to the board about the various departments and this evening we have our transportation department and ken hicks will introduce this item thank you very much madam president members of the board superintendent dr kellis colleagues and community members it is my pleasure to introduce mr doug curry he's our director of transportation he is new this year he has a vast knowledge of expertise knowledge skills abilities does an amazing job has jumped in during this coveted world and and done an amazing job so i will let him do the presentation thank you you can see the smile [Laughter] madam president governing board members dr kellis members of cabinet it's a great pleasure to have the opportunity to kind of give you an overview of what the transportation department does on a daily basis and also some of the goals that we have for this year and some of the challenges obviously with this year and some of the celebrations so with that being said we we maintain and uh buy several fleet annually we maintain 200 vehicles that's both activity buses school buses and our white fleet which is facilities food service community ed has one vehicle that i think our service for it is going to be put it on a tow truck and send it away and also warehouse vehicles we transport over 6 600 vehicles for 6 600 students daily and operate 87 daily routes and this is with social distancing normally that number would be about 3 000 more or 300 more excuse me some of the daily duties uh it was responsible for ensuring all staff made proper credentials cpr first aid cdl these are all all credentials that expire either annually every two years or every five years so our staff make sure that um we make sure that our drivers and aides are qualified some of our department of goals this this year are continue to provide essential services while maintaining social density whenever possible on a school bus that's extremely difficult but we've been working with the sites to make sure that we're we're providing cd charts we're updating them on every monday the sites have them by wednesday so if there is any contact tracing that needs to happen happens we're working with the with science and ess develop routes to support the middle school's opening at the start of next year just just to be ahead of the ball game if it's gonna it looks like it is going to include a few art extend us for a few more routes so we're making sure we have equipment and staff in order to support that and continue to work with the state to receive grants on bus purchases our fleet is aged and we're working extremely hard to remedy that oops i want one too far excuse me so update on goals we are monitoring the number of students on each route daily um we're trying not to get on a on a transit bus you can put 84 passengers on that that's three to a c we're keeping it to the maximum of 56 two to a c and we don't have hardly any routes that have that we're looking somewhere around 40 students so social distancing is pretty easily maintained routers are working with the new boundaries for the four schools i kind of mentioned that for staffing and equipment expectations and we are applying for the dera grant monies on our upcoming new bus purchases derek grant is diesel emissions regulatory act which came from it's just monies that's there from people from companies such as volkswagen that did not meet emission standards and so they were fined and so that money is being put into school buses that are are not emissions certified to the 2016 standards and we have several that are in that category the thing is with that you know you don't really get you lose fleet because it has to be destroyed staffing this is some of the challenges is to continue to hire and train drivers and aides it stays a story one step forward two steps backward but where hr has worked extremely hard and some of the candidate pool has increased greatly we're getting a lot of drivers that already have their cdl and credentials which saves us about four weeks of training that we can put them actually behind the wheel obviously like i said maintaining a lower fleet of buses diesel exhaust has a negative effect on environment and children's health and increased maintenance expenses for our fleet with the intersection of federal and state laws as has related to school transportation which we all know this just gets more convoluted every year means the district operates in a complex regulatory environment state federal etc and with the ess growth in private placement more more students are requiring transportation outside of our boundaries which uses up some resources instead of being able to do two or three tiers a.m or p.m that means two or three different routes they can only they pick up and go to one school some of the opportunities and celebrations that we had this year which as we all know has been one of the most trying years in in public education ever i've been in in public schools for over 20 years mostly in transportation and not to make a pun but we are reinventing the will um learning lab experience um our staff with the opening of school being postponed really didn't have essential functions so we worked extremely hard with district office and community ed and nutrition and our food services and so our our staff was very versatile and willing to do whatever we asked them to do i'll go over a few of those our dispatch department transformed into a temporary employment agency matching transportation staff to sites so instead of dispatching buses to schools they were dispatching staff to sites to help with learning labs and cleaning and we also assisted with mail deliveries routers had to create whole new routing for students attending school versus online learning so instead of the routes we had made up we had to figure out which kids were going to go to school which ones were going to online learns we had to recreate routes they also created routes for during the first couple of weeks when ess um was online and we had to get the packets to the students in a timely manner so the teachers would have them done on friday we'd pick them up from the sites on monday deliver them instead of picking kids up we were picking the packets up and taking it to the individual houses in order for those students to have their lesson plans office staff routers dispatchers trainers continue to adjust to any and all projects i can't tell you i've only been here since july but what a great staff i had and and their willingness to come up with resolutions dispatchers continue to be able to cover routes with minimal staff due to covet trainers work week we're working weekends to help out with community ed for some cpr and first aid training so that they could still be in the classroom during the week with that being said that's my presentation if you have any questions or concerns you can give them to ken i'm just kidding don't ask uh if you could share a couple of pieces of information um you said we have a fleet of about 200 buses um i know that maintenance is a challenge how many buses do we have out of service right now um several we're working to um i'm working with the outside entity right now i i somewhat inherited this problem but i i do have a uh a goal in sight to get us back up to where we're on an even playing field i have uh uh outside of any gonna come in i've already set up we've got a quote i'm getting that to mr hicks as a matter of fact i got the quote today um to get an outside identity come in and just help us get caught up so our fleet is aging yes and the maintenance efforts are keeping up to some degree but as an estimate with our aging fleet how many of the buses would you say are i'm almost embarrassed to say but about 20 percent okay and and at the end of this project which is going to last about two uh three to four weeks i'll i'll know which vehicles are not worth um putting the money into so it'd just be better to to um get rid of them started instead of trying to keep maintaining them and we're talking some vehicles that are to 2003.
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good evening i'm going to go ahead and call this meeting to order dr foley roll call good evening president reese and members of the governing board let the records show that all members are present thank you we're going to go ahead and have a moment of silence followed by the pledge of allegiance and if we can just keep the student teachers the students teachers and family of the student that we lost yesterday in our thoughts and prayers please all right we're going to go on to approval of the agenda i move that we approve the agenda as it's presented second any questions or comments regarding the agenda all those in favor motion carries 5-0 dr foley the superintendent's report president reese members of the board we begin tonight with our favorite part of the superintendent report which is our acknowledgments of our points of pride so tonight we're going to have two schools we have two schools here we'll start first with chaparral and then with hta and what will happen is that our administration will come up to the front of the room and they will invite each individual who we're going to recognize up one at a time and so when we when we have you come up the administration will share about you and then we will have a picture taken with you so that our governing board members will stand we'll take a picture so that we can highlight you on the website as well and this way we can honor and acknowledge you with careful uh mitigation strategies as well so tonight we're going to start with chaparral we have the sharks in the house and we have mrs hanson mr pepper and miss day who are joining us to celebrate our amazing employees student and volunteer all right good evening madam president members of the board it is a great honor to be here this evening to celebrate our chaparral points of pride all right let us begin with a very special they're all very special person mrs penny montes come on up penny all right mrs montez is currently teaching fourth grade english language arts and facilitates our student lighthouse team she incorporates new learning into her instruction and inspires her students to be the best scholars and leaders they can be mrs montez is creative hard-working and devoted to our students she goes the extra mile to make sure her students feel loved and are successful in addition she inspires students teachers and staff on our campus we are proud to have you [Applause] should we say who she brought with her tonight okay sorry they say your family makes you so i brought my family with me they are my support [Applause] okay next we have another very special guest this evening and i would like to call up our student and stugo president mr zach zerlini zachary all right we figured you'd like chocolate over flowers okay mr zach cerlini has been a student in our shark tank for seven years now throughout his time at chaparral zach has undergone numerous surgeries as soon as he can he returns to campus and his business as usual yes he is currently our student government president and an upstanding chaparral student leader both on campus and off zach inspires students teachers and staff in our shark tank every single day he comes to school with a smile on his face and he is often seen encouraging and supporting his fellow sharks zach is always thinking of ways to make sure all students are included and he always sees the good in every situation he is such an amazing positive role model for many and he has been showcased on fox sports for his work in the miracle league of arizona you are truly a gem zach we appreciate you [Applause] now can you guys hear me okay i brought my three other brothers and sisters and my mom and my dad [Applause] okay okay all right and i have the honor of introducing our classified points of pride winner miss emily parker [Applause] we'll wait on that we'll give it to her last so miss parker has worn many hats on our campus over the past several years she's been a crossing guard lunch aid paraprofessional parent and emcee of our most recent jingle job she's dependable she arrives on campus uh early to ensure that crossing signs are placed correctly she steps into cover when extra supervision is needed without hesitation this year she has supported our students during support service learning supports our families with summer meals she is a super support on campus and she goes above and beyond for her school at all times so miss so miss parker doesn't get flowers i came in a couple months ago to a note on my desk that said i wouldn't even need a stop sign while wearing these bad boys so this one's for you you can go ahead and open it up for us me on coveralls for you thank you yeah she'll be out uh tomorrow morning at fry and shaft so swing on by you'll get to see the pants in action [Applause] all right one more so our volunteer is miss [Applause] fennell miss fennel is part of our shark tank she is one of our highly regarded and respected substitute teachers and parent volunteers we have certainly utilized her this year for school miss fennell is so positive she's willing to take on any task grade level or job with a smile and just has a positive attitude our teachers appreciate her flexibility and feel comfortable leaving students in her hands we are lucky to have miss finnell in our shark [Applause] tank hmm [Applause] and i i apologize i forgot miss parker's got her three children back there and her wonderful husband [Applause] and i have my lovely two little girlies here who are proud chaparral sharks thank you thank you we will now invite up mrs bacon and miss garland we are so excited to be here tonight to honor four very special people that contribute endlessly to our campus and so we're going to start with our teacher ms garland's going to introduce good evening tonight i would like to recognize joanna eau claire as our certified representative for points of pride mrs eau claire goes above and beyond to serve our students and staff at hta when we were presented with the opportunity to pivot with our instructional delivery processes and methods to accommodate online learning in the online learning environment last year mrs eau claire stepped up to offer support to our staff and along and another along with another teacher or leader on our campus she quickly immersed herself in the canvas online platform attended professional development and made herself ready to support our campus with training troubleshooting and support for this we are incredibly grateful to uh joanna eau claire [Applause] thank you very much i brought my husband john and my kindergartner my hta kindergartner decker wow next none of us ever thought we would be facing the pandemic that we're in right now and and health aids on our campuses are incredibly valuable but this year more than ever they've had to step up and learn a new normal and work harder than they've ever worked before so kristin ramos is our health aide at our school and we are incredibly grateful for her come on up can often be seen running up and down the halls with her ppe on but keeping us all safe but um wow being a health aide in elementary school has never been easy but this year added a whole nother layer of complexity kristin takes care of each and every person on our campus with genuine love and support she is detail-oriented and thorough and takes her responsibility very seriously she takes time to answer all questions with dignity patience and respect we are so lucky to have her as part of our family [Applause] tonight i brought with me my mom my stepdad and my husband who are an amazing support system and always there for me ready now i'd like to recognize our student representative cayden cleveland come on up please kaden is new to our school this year and being a new student um as a sixth grader is never easy but that didn't stop caden from becoming immediately involved and showing his teachers and his classmates all he has to offer his teachers report that cayden consistently exceeds all their expectations especially in math he can offer often be seen helping other students who are in need he is responsible and courteous showing a great deal of respect for his peers and teachers he shows great leadership integrity and accountability we are so glad he chose hta [Applause] so i brought my my mom my dad and my two little sisters plus my grandma who's basically my second [Applause] mom [Applause] and last but not least this special lady on our campus has served us for many years and it's nice to get the chance to recognize her melissa shanis would you come up so this deserving parent has served our school she was on our pto board um and this year she's continued to be of service even though serving as a parent volunteer looks very very different knowing that there's a strong desire for all students in the classroom to have their very own set of supplies to minimize the need for student staff to share those items melissa has been very generous in keeping our classroom teachers supplied with school supplies books emails with words of encouragement amazon deliveries from teacher wishlist and notes special notes to show her appreciation we are so grateful for her we're going to have her introduce her family her hta family i brought with me my husband randy my son vincent who's a fifth grader and my daughter vanessa who's a third grader and it's honestly because of them that i'm here and i think it's really important to to note that the kids are have become the the eyes and ears of these needs and will come home and casually mention that they observe something and so thank you very much for looking out for everyone [Applause] we want to thank our points of pride acknowledge our recipients and acknowledgement today we always let you know at this point you are welcome to stay if you would like but we also know you have busy evenings and plans so if you need to we always say that this is a you can leave at this time if you'd like [Music] thank you hello and then there is five so president reese members of the board to continue with the superintendent's report you have up our upcoming events i'd like to just take a moment and thank the governing board for the additional time and and uh days you dedicated to learning together with us as a team in the month of january we had in addition to meetings we had two saturday trainings and we appreciate you and your dedication to that time and then as you can see we have several meetings coming up in the next few few weeks here and of course we're entering into a long weekend and that is that concludes the superintendent's report thank you we will go on to board comments this time is set aside for any board members to [Music] share any events or make any acknowledgements mrs wilson president reese i just want to thank all the students who signed last wednesday i believe we had a great signing and a great turnout of our student athletes to sign for college and also um spelling bee and mrs richards and her great efforts to make the spelling bee happen for our kiddos and some of those words man i cannot spell so just thank you to the winner um mrs richards would have to remind me what his name was the over i'm not going to try to say it but thank you um thank you to this okay but thank you to that winner and the runner-up they were both great spellers so thank you anybody else all right we will go on to request to speak mrs reach any requests okay then we'll go on to our consent agenda i move that we approve our consent agenda as it is presented with 6.1 through 6.14 seconds any questions or comments regarding anything on our consent agenda all right all those in favor aye aye motion carries 5-0 president reece mrs kaler i just want to say thank you to um david delgado leo i'm not right but he donated to williamsfield a used kiln and that's a very generous gift to the school i also see that we got gifts from maricopa county health department but i look at those and think those are necessary i know they follow under our gifts um but uh shout out to mr del goddy i can't say that word to save my life so anyways nice gift perfect thank you for acknowledging that all right we're going to go on to our information items 7.1 our mno budget update and projection president reese members of the board tonight we have tonight the theme of tonight is a financial conversation and and as as mr gad and as mr moore prepared to present to you tonight's produce starting first with our m o conversation for the third time i just want to take a second and publicly thank the finance these two gentlemen the finance department and your executive team who've been working really hard to deeply research understand put together information so that we can continue to understand where we are financially to make important decisions and so uh these two gentlemen have been working really hard and we have learned a lot with them and and from them and so again tonight they have got additional information and so we will turn the floor over to to them thank you dr foley madam president members of the board this is our third review of the operational budget for next year still have a couple things to update but it basically is the same as we presented to you before we are headed for the march 10th board meeting to ask you to approve some salary schedules and contracts so that we can commit the staff and new staff to um aqua school district so with that i'm going to ask mr moore to go ahead and present the powerpoint thank you mr yad good evening president reese members of the board um like mr gad mentioned this is the third review of the mno budget projections so we'll make our way through so the highlights page a lot you'll see here is what we reviewed on the last board meeting we do have a few updated highlights starting with the first bullet point nothing has changed here we have received the total of 3.2 million in coveted relief funds that is as of today we know that sr2 is coming we still have not received a dollar amount from that we're estimating it at 2.6 million but we are anticipating ade the arizona department of education to give us a dollar amount in about mid-february so before that march 10th board meeting we hope to have a hard dollar amount for that esther 2 relief fund bullet point 2 we have passed our 100th day adm that was on january 15th and we have realized uh a little less than expected so 117 adm loss as you know before we're bringing about we're estimating about student loss so this is in our benefit as you'll see as we progress through the slides this evening and again i want to emphasize that in fiscal year 22 we are budgeting at the same student account that we are utilizing right now so any additional students that we bring into the district will be a benefit to the budget formula so again a very conservative number that we're using for fiscal year 22.
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food after noon fort river friends bienvenidos amigos de fort river viennese day february it brings me joy to know that we are connected again together as a community we're here today to celebrate the love there's so much love to celebrate before we dig in i also wanted to celebrate the lunar new year happy new year to everybody that celebrates everybody should take this opportunity to celebrate a new beginning this year lunar new year rings in the year of the ox and fun fact more than 20 percent of our world's population celebrates the lunar new year it's a time to honor friendship to honor new beginnings dig in celebrate that lunar new year i'm wearing red in honor of the lunar new year and read in honor of the love we also get to take a moment in february to celebrate black history we all know that black history is all of our history but we know that it hasn't always been recognized the way that it should so february is the time where we elevate those voices and make sure we celebrate all that there is to celebrate we should celebrate it every day so one of the ways we can choose love is by talking about historic racism current racism and celebrate what race really is so in talking about race is choosing love it acknowledges also that we have a lot of work to do to ensure that all people are treated fairly and have the same rights but the civil rights movement was all about and what the black lives matter movement is all about today so to kick off our celebration of love i wanted to share a poem by the inaugural national poet laureate amanda gorman she wrote a poem called talking gets us there it's normal to notice what makes us different because what makes us different is what makes each of us so special there's beauty in every type of face and in every type of freckle from the curl of your hair to the color of your skin no one is exactly the same not even twins but across time and place people have been treated unfairly just because of their race so heroes get into good trouble they have to struggle for a long while but when they win it's worth every mile people of color still experience racism today so it's up to all of us to say enough is enough to speak out with all our hearts and that starts at home starts with asking questions about race when we're taught about it together i know we can tackle racism but first we have to talk about it so honor the movement and help our world get to a better place for everyone talking about race asking questions about racism making space for people of color and choosing love for us all so at fort river we started using the term we choose love back in 2016.
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um pretty short ones okay okay good good okay i would like to call our meeting to order as we always do could we stand for the pleasure of allegiance please yes ma'am i pledge allegiance and to the republic for which it stands one nation under under god indivisible with liberty and justice thank you before you start could you get rid of the agenda on the screen now it's really it's more annoying than yep thank you i'm sorry i didn't hear what you said oh that's okay thank you okay okay uh roll call cake uh joseph britton present rachel chaleski kate canetta here gladys cooper yeah lauren daley here joe da silva president catherine hodgston is absent this evening uh rich genelli yeah kathy molinaro yeah al russo president amy spolino here all right that's ten president one absolutely right we have ten ten that's present and one absent uh doctor said that we have any recognitions uh not at this time man okay okay uh kate will you do the public participation statement that we read at our meetings every meeting certainly uh the board welcomes public participation and asks that comments be limited to three minutes the public may offer objective comments of school operations and programs that concern them the board will not permit any expression of personal complaints or defamatory comments about board of education personnel and students nor against any person connected with the danbury public school system due to the unique nature of the covit 19 crisis and the limitations of technology members of the public who are danbury residents are invited to send brief comments and questions via email in advance to dps underscore public comment underscore boe at danbury.k12.ct.us thank you okay sam will go into the comments sure uh first comment is from patty alessandro i am ready to ask the board to give families with special needs students who were granted the schedule of four-day in-person learning in october a timeline for when the schedule will begin now that students have returned to their school buildings while the special education teachers and para educators have been working incredibly hard since september with their students distance learning can be especially challenging for this population navigating google meets and receiving necessary services online can initiate frustration and be an ineffective way to measure and meet the required objectives stated on a student's iep while mainstream academic students may have found other forms of socializing safely during this time for many special needs students being in school with peers is the only form of social development allowing special needs students to begin in person on a hybrid schedule after thanksgiving was the beginning of making up the fragmented in-person special education services law since march many surrounding districts with the hybrid learning model see the importance of four-day in-person schedule for their special needs population and i hope the board can quickly work with the school administrators to do the same for danbury special needs students as well next comment is from oswaldo chen first i would like to thank you for your service and for all the hard work you put in by making sure that our children's needs are met second i write in support of the new school budget proposal however in considering that for many years our beloved public schools are being defunded i wish you would have proposed a higher amount third you as elected officials must do everything in your power to protect your public school system our public school system is the jewel of our democracy i am committed to support and protect our public schools and i strongly oppose charter school funding in the connecticut budget and miss cooper i am just refreshing to make sure there are no comments and we are all set for the night okay and if somehow um someone comes in a little late uh saying and we'll go back and we if we look at the time okay okay thank you so very much sandy you're right next on the agenda is uh the consent calendar amy would you do the consent calendar please amy i'm sorry you're on mute amy can you hear us yes i'm sorry yes i i i'm sorry all right i moved that the board of education approved the item on the consent calendar exhibit 21-14 through 21-17 as recommended motion made by amy did i get a second second and seconded by jody silver any questions on the consent counter 10 cnn uh kate could you take uh roll call please joe britton aye rachel chaleski aye kate canetta aye gladys cooper aye lauren daly aye joe da silva aye rich gianelli hi kathy molinero hi al russo hi amy spelino hi so we have uh 10 in favor of the consent calendar and we still have one person asking so the motion is so careful thank you all uh next uh item seven educational staff representative reports n.a.a.a danbury uh christie's a leader dr zolita is not unable to make it tonight okay wanna she sends her apologies okay thank you okay and so we don't have anyone here from nea either i don't see aaron on the call okay good good because i can't see everybody's on the screen okay so we moved down to our student trip anyone from dhs [Music] anyone from ace yes okay good evening bourget members cabinet and community members thank you for allowing me to represent and speak on behalf of the alternative center for excellence as we approach march the ace staff led by kyle truccola as our s.a.t administer administrator prepare to march prepare for the march 24th sat day ace would like to thank kyle for all his efforts in organizing what will be a successful day for our 20 11th graders who will be testing i'd like to announce that the a showcase website which highlights students writings paintings and all things creative has been created and is being managed by joanne poles joanne and her poetry students are already planning our annual spring coffee house which will be a venue for students and staffs to read original pieces of poetry display artwork and host musical performances we would like our creativity to be on full display on our tentative center for excellence youtube channel ace would like to publicly acknowledge and congratulate our january students of the month chris pius and brianna villani both students are 9th graders they that are new to the ace family this year and have excelled and engaged consistently throughout the first semester lastly ace would like to congratulate our most recent student of the week award winners laura medina medina and xander wickson congratulations to both of you and keep up the great work during the rest of semester two thank you all for allowing me to share the great things happening with my our aria's family stay safe everyone and remain strong thank you christopher okay do we have any of our other students i want to go back i don't want to miss anyone no one here from dhs okay so we move down to action item nine uh mr britton would you like to make that motion sure thank you madam chair um i move that the board of education authorizes the chairperson of the board of education and the superintendent of schools to approve the final plans contract specifications and cost estimates for the ellsworth avenue school addition project and the associated board of education space zero three four one five one b e and sign the scg042 forms for submission to the state of connecticut for approvals promotion made by joe did i hear a second second okay rachel uh are there any questions any discussions do we have our architect group that here would like to say anything at this time are there any questions to anyone concerning this act tonight from board members cnn uh kate do the roll call please joe britton aye rachel celestia aye kate canetta aye gladys cooper aye lauren daly aye joe da silva aye rich gianelli i'm going to abstain only because i didn't get a chance to go through the information i was working with the budget so i apologize thanks mr chinelli uh kathy molinaro hi al russo i also abstain because of the budget and amy spoonino hi okay that's eight eyes two extensions one absent yeah yeah so the motion is so carried with the two of center okay and one abs okay thank you for attending i'm sorry i was just thanking the city folks and architects for attending for being okay i was just getting ready to say that and thank uh the sites and facility committee uh for putting their meetings together and bringing the information and having their workshop on i think was last week and if i make the wrong data because we've been having a lot of meetings and you know sometimes we forget but thank everyone for the input and to help making this move forward thank you so very much next on the agenda is action item b uh okay uh i will make a motion at the board of education adopt the superintendent's fiscal year 2021-2022 budget as presented for submission to the mayor is required by city charter and for the motion to reflect the budget was presented on 210 21 to the board in the amount of 149 million 10 641 which represents an increase to the current fiscal year 2020 to 21 adopted budget of nine point eight two percent or thirteen million three hundred and twenty four thousand six hundred fifty one dollars second second by mr uh december any question concerning the motion concerns a question concerning the budget that we'd like to talk about right now um last night as a result of the finance committee we had voted unanimously unanimously as a result of the workshop to recommend to the full board to accept the uh the budget as as indicated here version of this budget today at 5 40 p.m yes yes i was just getting ready to say that okay i i have some things to say as well i do too okay can we ask our question who who was first go ahead amy well i just wanted to say that i really appreciated the powerpoint presentation that we saw last night and the explanations that we heard about each category however i do wish that we had more time to discuss what we will actually be able to include um once we take our budget to the city and we have the final number that they'll be giving us you know i just i i don't this is the fourth year i've been doing this and it just feels very rushed i don't quite why it's like this i know we've had an unprecedented year um at with the schools and yet um i just feel that it's it's it's a rush and that then once it goes to the city and we possibly every time i've been here so far we don't get everything and i think that's pretty typical across the state across the nation but then what will we do and how will we with all the we heard last night all the needs you know what we really be able to afford then you want to aggress that dr sal well um i think it is the nature of what we are doing and in terms of uh the information and normally after the board gives us the okay then we produce the booklet that will everybody gets and goes to the city hall so that that you will be getting between now and when mr cavo decides the recommendation of the budget to the town then we'll have an idea of what it is that we're going to spend i mean that's always the you know the the catch in this thing last year we were able to um you know we knew earlier because there wasn't a vote so we were told basically what we're going to get and then we we braided it i guess we'll do the same thing this year one we talked about this today as the cabinet because as you know we have the grant and if you look at the grant i sent you the governor's notes today he divided danbury over two years on our 10 million dollars somehow included it in the ecs i don't know what that means but we'll have to look forward you know as you just said when whatever we wind up getting then you know how do we get the things we talked about last night that's the creativity of trying to use the alliance grant which by the way in the governor's message looks like we're going to get as much as last year at least my first reaction got to study it some more um so that's what we'll do and then we can come sure back to the board and talk about what we can do um the big thing is that's a plan thing amy that we um that we're able to balance things last year the money we had wasn't all um the same it was it was leftover money so we could use differently so it's going to be a challenge and we'll get back and let you know what it is that um about getting it late i i do thank you dr apologize yeah and self i could just add also that um the budget that you had in hand about ten days ago from our first workshop um changed and just minor items i know that you only got the final um today but the presentation last night is matching all the detail back up that you got today and the detail back up that you had about two weeks ago we continued to meet and so the things that changed were relatively minor but i'm happy to tell you what they are verbally now as well so you felt comfortable it was the removal of three features from the elementary proposal it was consolidating a category for the curriculum and programming support with humanity so the dollars didn't change there but the two categories got collapsed and we added ten thousand dollars for and uh uh uh it's called the interventionist um um we in the one last thing we reduced the bus request and so all of that's reflected in the current package um those were the things that happened over the last two weeks says cabinet kind of refined the budget proposal um and and i repeated that i apologize for the short time frame this year so amy just if any of the board have follow-up questions just call courtney and we'll just sit down and talk about it yeah okay well i think then so just feel comfortable to do that and then yeah and we also look forward to this next series of sessions like last year because we know that we're going to be braiding and so a lot of the conversation we've had with the finance committee and also just moving forward is three things you know how do we present the budget to the public and engage the public and super assistant superintendent kevin walston is engaged with the community um outreach as is kate and then anyone else we encourage and that we're also really going to be mindful of building that branded funding so dr kasmir has led a few sessions now that we're getting ideas about that 10.1 million cares funding package as well as talking about once the governor's budget gets more firmed up how we're going to handle that additional alliance increment and lobby the city simultaneously so there's a lot of work ahead of us to continue to refine like what this really means and that's the good work that you know we're going to count on the board to be part of and and be timely with and we'll have all this information already at hand that we've started um the care spending is a little quick it's going to be a deadline of our initial submission of february 22nd so we do have some work to do between now and then and you know we're glad to have your support in that in that work thank you courtney thank you amy may i speak no i was just getting ready to call you oh thanks um no i just want to kind of echo amy's concerns i have this i had the same frustration that i expressed that you know at our workshop um you know when we first got the budget just last week it changed to our to the following workshop um the numbers change but also just the format so there's really it's it's difficult to see it's just difficult to compare um and um and the braiding of the funds you know i understand you know that's that has to be done but again as i mentioned um at our workshop it doesn't seem sustainable um you know it kind of puts us further into the hole i mean you know dr sally you've been very clear in communicating that the additional federal funding funding is not to be used just to plant operations but we're braiding it into the operations budget um and i understand there are a lot of moving parts and um you know this was an unprecedented year are we all sick of that that word i think unprecedented um but um i don't feel you know as a board member i don't feel part of the team that kind of helped to develop this um it was you know it's presented to us in in a very nicely done um but i would just like to request more transparency and collaboration you know with the board as a parent of course i want all of these things for our kids and as a board member i want all of these things for our kids um but this is also a tough year um our community is struggling through a pandemic and this is a huge ask and um so those are my concerns i'm not i don't know that i'm comfortable approving something without having the binder before you know we're asked to ask to approve it thank you i will support rachel uh you know and i know courtney opened up her office or her telephone you know because we're not going into people's office right now that the concerns that you raised last night and if there's other concerns you know uh about this budget that you you raised tonight uh maybe a different type of conversation uh with courtney and and uh mr genelli and mr uh russo or whoever you feel comfortable with can answer some of those questions that you know uh we're having and um uh we this has been a sort of a different year but i've also been on the board to know that at certain points at times that we have received the binary down at city hall so you know uh things just don't work out sometime on time the way we would like to do but i encourage you that if you you know continue to have questions uh talk to courtney because i know i apologize um miss cooper and and rachel i i was under the impression that the binder is produced after the board votes because that's when the budget becomes the budget to present to the city um and so i do intend to everything's ready to go once we get the vote on the from the board so i would be able to produce that before it goes to the city the deadline to the city is the first business day after valentine's day so you know if it would make a difference i can certainly have it to you this week but we typically don't put that book together until um from my understanding until after the board votes because then we have the final budget to prepare not understanding that okay so my question might my comment was i have been in city hall when the board the budget book was handed that's why we were sitting at city hall so that was my only comment so if there's no other question anyone else have any questions i'm sorry rachel are you done go i don't want to step on you again to your comment go ahead no it's fine i just um i think that was lauren but oh sorry we've been in previous years we've we've been given i thought we had given the we were given the binder beforehand i i maybe i'm mistaken but i just you know if we're not given the detail how are we supposed to vote on on something but normally normally the budget there's pages in the budget book that can be done and then until like we moved things around sometimes we'd get tonight's meeting and the board would say if you need more x here or that and then they would manipulate put redo the budget put those pages in the budget book and try to get it out i think maybe we start the finance committee a little earlier next year when we know that so people you really want to talk about it because when you say what goes in the budget so much of it is um you know just moving forward we know what they are particularly when we have contracts that we've already negotiated it becomes those other items uh rachel that uh people begin to figure out what do we need to move ahead and that's after the after that the move-ahead budget but if we have this finance i get asked earlier then we could start talking about this is what we're thinking about why and that that'll show up in a budget book down the road the pages that i shared ahead of time where the details there is detail as they come these are the ones that i gave you last friday um it breaks it down to the object level the account level but if there's something more specific you know that you'd like to see in future like before we produce the book then i'm more than happy to produce it this is what i had sent um over last week um but this is at the account level detail um which you know breaks it down by title and type and everything and it gives you the history going back to i think 2016 fiscal 2016.
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all right ladies and gentlemen welcome to our school reorganization team meeting it is 5 30 p.m so we are going to go ahead and start right on time um so nice to see you so nice to be with you again i want to thank you for a couple of things thank you for all of the input at our last meeting last week i had the pleasure of going back and re-listening to the meeting and seeing myself on camera which is uh odd and strange but nonetheless uh thank you for that i also want to thank you for uh participating in in the homework i know nobody told you that there would be homework when you signed up for this so i apologize in advance but thank you for uh for doing that um very much appreciate it ci alien con nosotros [Music] he [Music] thank you um so yeah so thank you for for doing that um today we're going to um kind of debrief a little bit about last week we're going to be brief about your survey we're going to ask some questions we're going to participate in live polls or so we think we are we're testing it out for the first time hopefully it works the way it's supposed to work and we can go from there all right so let's start off with what you already know because i had put it in my email number one and number two you were in this meeting with me so you were listening to the things that i was listening to and we were all listening to all right so let's start off with with some of the things that happened last week one of the things that happened last week is that no matter how we look at it and i'm gonna explain to you in a second what that means but no matter how we cut it slice it or dice it no matter which method we look at it model 3 was by far the model that was most favored by this group that does not mean that everyone in this group loved model number three as their number one but in general as a group by far not closely by far model 3 was the most favored model what we also know again right now we're talking entireties okay so we're not saying everybody in this room what we also know is that model 2 was the least favored model of this group okay as a whole once again that does not mean that everyone in this room did not like model 2.
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that represents if we had kept at the same proportion 234 million dollars less in the proportional funding the one part that we were asking for an amendment for is that what we've seen is from year to year the education budget does go up except for in economic downturns and this bill currently allows for the governor to waive that if we truly want to keep the education budget steady then there should not be an ability to waive it even during economic downturns and we're asking that the senate committee delete section 302 a which would ask for temporary suspension of the moe thank you thank you members questions if none moving on to our next testifier tom yamachika tax foundation of hawaii tom thank you thank you chair members tom yamachika from the tax foundation um we understand and appreciate the intent behind this measure but i think the the practical reality is uh that new legislature can bind another one so whatever you say whatever you enact can be undone by any subsequent legislature uh the same way so um the there are technical concerns with the current measure is drafted i've gone over some of those my testimony uh so i think those should be addressed and um i'd be happy to answer any questions uh thank you very much for the opportunity thank you tom members questions if not the next testifier shari nakamura for hey coalition sherry please hello kidani vice chair kim and members of the committee my name is sherry nakamura director of a coalition we would like to comment on hp 611 um it fully supports the concept of a long-term stable funding for public education we have comments on the public education stabilization fund proposal we suggest that rob has been calculating a year and year difference of the entire state education allocation the comparison be narrowed to 80 and 100 school-based budgeting and edn 150 special education funding the reason is we want to stabilize funds where it impacts students the most which is in the classroom in addition we are not comfortable with a special fund in which the doe would have full discretion without transparency and accountability the two tenants for which the coalition consistently advocates and i apologize uh i said the incorrect bill number uh it's sb um 518.
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it's just not a it's it's a liability to say the least and then you mentioned the dara grant and that some of those buses have to be destroyed so what you're saying just for clarification is that if we get a new bus under that grant then we're obligated to destroy a number of other buses correct so that they can't be used again right and there's also some uh regulations under that derral grant so i can't just take a bus that we haven't ran for a year or year and a half and put it on the deregrant you truly have to be pulling something off the road so you have to show that it did a certain amount of mileage the year before so there's a fine line there do i do i get rid of a piece of equipment that i need for ten thousand dollars when it's going to cost me 160 to replace it thanks 160 000.
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bullet point three we're estimating three million in reduction for funding for online uh learning again this was not a decision based on funding when when the board or higgle unified made this decision but this is just a factor of the formula and how the state is funded we are monitoring potential legislation that will remove this 95 percent online funding and fund it at 100 for fiscal year 21. that would be a one-time legislation change and we're monitoring that as it moves through legislation bullet point four we're implementing a phased plan to reduce excuse me to reduce the m o uh to capital transfer as we mentioned and as you'll see as we progress through this slide we have been budgeting a 4.4 million dollar transfer from mno to capital to pay down for that lease payment that lease obligation payment that we are obligated to pay uh number five we are budgeting no increase to current employee benefits this is more of a just a notation that you know we're not putting if there is any increase to benefits we are not putting that on the employee for next year so again the coveted relief grant breakdown not a lot of new information here we're still waiting on ade you can see the two grants that we have recognized this at year to date 2.6 million from the enrollment stabilization grant that was from the governor's office and we've recognized esser i guess this would be esser one and the amount of six hundred thousand and again we're still waiting on that sr2 amount to be handed to us from ade [Applause] so as we work through the projections there's not a lot of new information here i'm gonna be pretty brief with this this is the same numbers that we presented the last board meeting um i will highlight the online learning adjustment we are still budgeting for that even though there is legislation in place to possibly remove that so that would be a benefit to our budget if that legislation passes in the tune of three million dollars so as we progress to the next page you can see the transfer to capital reduction currently in the june of last year we budgeted six million dollars uh for that capital reduc um that capital transfer we are only going to budget are we only budgeting in a revision or may revision a 4.4 million dollar transfer so that's 1.6 million that will can recognize in our current year budget as you know in school districts we adopt a budget prior to the year in june and then we do a may revision on actual numbers off 100th day 8 and that's how the school district that's how the budget functions in arizona so you can see the jbl difference there of 5.4 million that is the difference in the budgeted adopted budgeted numbers that we presented in june and then our revised numbers so that's the difference between the 90 million that we adopted in june of last year and then the revision that we plan on making in may so fiscal year 22 or school year 22.
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we started to do it because it was a troublesome time then still a trouble sometimes happening now and we used it to ground our community and connect and make sure we were taking care of one another we wanted to secure ourselves as a place that we allowed growing together and shared a sense of commitment and support so we could all take chances and learn so we had a group of students volunteer to think about what choosing love really means our school climate team so i'm going to introduce our school climate team to you now they've got some great things to share here they come by one welcome our school climate team i'm xander from mr austin's sixth grade and the school climate team thank you miss encouragion for helping us with this project hi everyone my name is kira i'm in mr awesome in 6th grade class and i'm also part of the school climate team hello everybody my name is eleanor i'm in mr austin's 6th grade class and i'm also part of the school's climate team hi i'm macy i'm also in mr austin's 6th grade class i'm also part of the school climate team hi my name is mary elise and i'm from the i'm from fifth grade and i'm from the school climate school the values of choosing love try your best don't ever give up there's always another way treat others the way they want to be treated kindness is always necessary in every setting everyone is helpful compromise to resolve conflict and make sure you're listening to what others have to say accept everyone love everyone we celebrate language diversity we try to be optimistic in every situation we are all very kind everyone is helpful to others we all show empathy to one another value all cultures going away go idiot away go away um we we all like to sing everybody is respected here we are all important we stay open to new ideas and we never give up and everybody is accepted so we looked at the matrix and realized it needed to be changed to make it more of a tool instead of a law your teachers will be teaching these expectations to you in class and we already translated it to espanol you might think of fort river's community as just a community but it's more than that we're a family we're always there for each other and we're all in this together here we're going to be doing a slideshow of all the logo logo contest entries because we want to celebrate everybody's artwork [Music] so [Music] okay hi i just wanted to say thank you for everyone who entered the contest we loved all of your projects the first finalist was sam and olivia damon the second finalist was co parson and the third finalist was maria salinas ayala and alexandra maria caramel congratulations to everybody what a fun way to celebrate love great job great job so we've got another special video project for you all to enjoy thanks huge shout out to mr t for helping put this together because it was very challenging but many of you have contributed a special video talking about what you love about the river so buckle up get comfortable it's gonna be a long one but you'll get to see so many familiar faces faces that you may not have seen for a while all great levels lots of people have contributed sit back relax and enjoy the love hi my name is marissa jarrah and these are some things i like about four rivers first of all my teacher miss scuffs to stand she is very nice and um i've been at fort river for about five years now and it's just made a challenging experience a lot more easy to handle i like my teachers because they are really nice and um i've just always loved fort river and i've been and i'm been at fort river for a very long time now hi my name is michael jarrett and these are some things i like about fort with um ben and pat made my education more easier and they're really nice teachers this this year mr buckins my teacher and i've been at fort river for four years hi i'm maya williams and what i love about forever is that everybody's so nice this is only my first year and i already feel like i'm able to make friends because everybody's so nice to me so even everybody the teachers and the ch the kids in my class everybody's always so nice that is why i love fort river hi i'm kuma and i love fort river because it's always loved me and it's my community hi my name is nora and i've been at four river school ever since i was in kindergarten and i love it here we are all treated kindly and equal and equally and i just miss being there because of coved and i hope that i can see all my old teachers all of my friends soon again without having to wear a mask fort river i've also made lots of new friends and i've gotten to meet more people and all my teachers have been really kind and i really miss them so have other people so i hope that we can all get together and see each other soon thanks bye hello my name is sharla and i'm going to talk about what i like about fort river for forever i like how there are wave owners because at the last school that i had there were no wave warners there was just um it was just like you can be pre class president and that was only for one year last year i also like how we can interact with the teachers because last year i only had to um when we were online i um there was one meeting and it was in only in the beginning of the day no there are two meetings there was one at the end of the day just to say goodbye but then in the beginning of the day and she only told us what we had to do the whole day we had to figure it out on our own what we had to do like if we had any questions on google classroom we couldn't go up to her and ask we had to figure them out on by ourselves so i think it's a lot better that we can um though we can actually interact with the teachers here um yeah and that's what i like about pearl river what i like about fall river is all the students from the sixth grade into kindergarten all the teachers coaching and mrs chamberlain all the teachers all the students i love everything in four river bye hi uh i'm johnny and one of the things that i love about fort river most is that the teachers help us and the teachers and other kids in the school are nice bye my name is hazel and one of the things i like most about fort river are the people and the friends um i like fort river because um everybody's kind to each other and in my opinion it's pretty easy to make friends there you you get included every time if there's someone new in the school you have fun there the teachers make it very fun the math teachers uh gym teachers art teachers music teachers uh tech teachers make it very fun here and that's what i love about fort river well what i love about ford river school is the doors it's really colorful especially the blue i love that color bye um i like forever because everyone's really nice and it's um very easy to make friends hi my name is alex and what i like about ford river is the logo i've never been to a school with a we choose love logo i think that's really special to the school it comes from fort river goodbye hi i'm emory and i like fort river because everybody is kind and welcoming hello what i love about my burger is that i get to see my friends a lot of the time what do i love about far river that it's fort river i like for river because you eat cupcakes right now i had the sun right i like for river because you learned a ton of math and you do a ton of fun math games what i like about fort river is that the path of rocks i just really like all the paintings on it and i love seeing my friends but not during covet so but yeah that's what i like about fall river slash love so what i love about fort river is how accepting the community is and no matter who you are there's someone always there for you and it's more than a community it's more like a family hi this is cole from mr severance and mr principe's class and what i love about forever is that we choose love and we all are open to new ideas we all have a way of choosing love and i really like that about forever so um there are so many things that i like about fort river one thing that i love is at four river is myself another thing that i like is people who like me and i like miss evans i have miss praisepay miss king even though she wasn't here she's my favorite teacher mr mario miss criswall you know she's new here miss felix miss susan mr grant and miss rondo yeah and miguel and coach renee and miss chamberlain and miss aquino and ruthie were these another one of my favorites and alex putnam he's amazing i like the art hung up on the walls i like my friends who crowd the halls even though these things are small they are a few things i like about fort river i like prefer is that all these good teachers that i've had it by many years or her a great here even with online learning i love the people that crowd the halls i love the teachers within them all i love the specials classrooms too most of all i love our wave the color blue what i love about fort river is that the teachers are always very nice and help you learn like i've learned so much in this first half of fourth grade what i love most about fort erver is the kind teachers and the students who work very hard what i like about the river is that people the kindness does spread around the community and they welcome you even if you're short or big no matter what we always say we choose love hi my name is aaliyah and i'm from mustaggit's fifth grade class what i love about fort river is that we're all a family and we all chose to love and chose to be together my good sister and i love my teachers and youtube's love at fort river what i like about fort river fort river is very nice and the teachers are very nice there's no violence no boiling and there's no um and i like miss kristen and i like um the classmates they're very very nice and i really like voight river because i used to go here a long time ago in 2000 16 and 2017 and 2008 probably bye um i like playing outside oh i like playing outside and i like um going on the swings and i like um i like like i don't um i like playing with big sean i like playing with um ben like playing with michael um it's jeremiah and bye see you hi guys my name is karina i just wanted to say uh uh everything about forever and i'm gonna talk to you guys about why i love buffalo river and what i love about fort river is that it is it is such a big community and the one thing that i love about this school is that i have a lot of teachers i have a lot of friends and one of my favorite teachers are mr benjamin so yeah shout out to mr principe and one of my very best friends are melinda and curly sinclair so yeah thank you guys so much for being here for me and uh yeah hope you guys have a great day and i hope you guys can be strong with this chronograph or everything that's happening in this world stay strong read a lot of books bye hi my name is jordan and i've been at fort river school ever since kindergarten and i've met a lot of nice friends there and everyone there is so kind and one thing i really love about fort river is that if someone's hurt and needs a friend someone's always there for them and if someone let's say if someone really was just sitting somewhere just not doing anything and was super duper sad on the playground and she didn't know what to do or he didn't know what to do someone would always be there just to go and help them and have some fun and so that's one of the things i really love about four rivers hi my name is melina and i'm going to be saying some reasons why i love fort river um for river is a really kind of place really family come community and stuff like that but i
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and now down a baker's dozen 37-24 fancy football footwork by the way nobody is there unfortunately 326 left on the clock and now macarini on defense she catches a nasty screen oh yes to the dismay of number 42 of the colts not happy with the moving heck if i do it was just planted a little too shallow yes a little weiss inbounding to cafaro gets it over to macarini and she tries to make a move and she does wow great little floater there awesome finding two peter is very happy with that he would like to be referred to as mr hyzek oh yeah i was not allowed or coach isaac anna oh oh no anna caught sleeping there yeah well she thought it was going the other way yeah just some miscommunication but it happens spartan's able to come away with it after all weiss 242 to go in this contest spartans will be checking in and number 15 maybe for the colts as well as number 12 knee 2 23 2 2 nope that's a two it's definitely a three um we'll get a confirmation on the two three situation surely it's definitely a two yep so who was right me um and white shot off the backboard out and now colt's trying to pull together some late game heroics an open three will not make it in weiss will slow it down a bit voice at the circle she stops over to macaroni good stuff 216 left who are you texting over there just group chat lighting up well because you're just so popular i know and now clooty are also back into the game for the spartans she's got great defense lockdown lock down d oh gaffarro she might have a couple fouls i would say about five maybe or four she's getting up there that's for sure dowd will check back in good job list oh yeah i think she fell first one on the way no [Applause] i'm excited to see him tomorrow i know i miss him he's back from college yeah he called the last hockey game with me and we will be doing another one so very exciting stuff tune in tomorrow 40 live on lcat that's pretty late and for all of you that may panic if it's not if we're not punctual at 640 it's because it probably hasn't started yet um i'm gonna add my own family there because they always well they'll actually be at the game so they won't have to worry about that but if you're not gonna have a special ticket into the game 6 40 give or take five minutes live on lcat and that one's able to fall i believe that was macarini yes you believe right so yeah tune in spartans a minute jog set for their second contest of the season [Music] that's only their second game their second contest with minijaw oh okay three three pointer no cop has had struggle has had trouble shooting the ball i think they've hit one maybe two threes but a good pass inside macaroon he's got to be up to about eight points yourself doing very well this game her father will be proud he is doing the scoreboard right now he's my i like mr mac me and him are good friends now that we have a we no longer have a school relationship [Music] we're now good friends see him on the golf course every now and then oh yeah big golfer huh clue to her over to weiss weiss driving shooting that one can't find a home bound by macarini cloudier that would have been some electricity right there 30 seconds to go in the game it's been a pleasure we hope you have enjoyed it with us happy senior night big board for clutier and she'll likely dribble out the clock here we might see a shot one more shot will be sufficient and she kicks it over macarini that one won't fall ball goes out of bounds with 12 seconds to go on the clock we definitely hope you've enjoyed our broadcast looks like the spartans are going to hang on here up 43 to 25 with under 10 seconds to go and so that one rims out and likely will do it final score from island middle high school is 43-25 spartans catch a win on senior night we wish the best to haley weiss and alyssa cafaro in the years to come been definitely great components to this spartan winning team we hope you've enjoyed our broadcast here on lcat looking forward to the game tomorrow on behalf of us though nina gomeli and devin dobeck the voice of the spartans [Applause] goodbye
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