the fact that we recovered it and it was a perfect kick mechanic you're going to be the man in motion he's going to catch the ball about four yards deep in the backfield he's going to make one man miss he's going to get brought out of bounds at the 22. and it looks like it's going to be a late hit there's going to be a flag on the play someone looks to be james sepetz running over there late on the play i think mcconaughey got slung to the ground there and like we said earlier it's on a hillside so yeah when you look over here like to the left it's like it's a straight divot the field is set inside of the track that's for sure so if it is a late hit it should be on sale it'll be a first down for the eagles it's probably going to be a half a distance to the goal penalty for light conduct took place at the 20-yard line i think tonight for the player of the game that we might be able to get an interview with you think wibbed wibbs or dom we could pick we could pick one i think whibs with a couple big catches a wildcat 11 yard line defensively making some big tackles too stepping up making some plays eagles offense ready to go officials are not official timeout on the field starting to get a little chilly here we are spoiled in our press box and i don't have any hair anymore and then really throwing me off back to the action here we're going to hand the ball off to mcconaughey is going to go up the middle not get anything on the play going to get back to the line of scrimmage main thing under nine minutes to go in the game now carrier yeah big thing for coach hoyner just let this clock run keep running the ball and keep the ball out of salem's uh hands as we've seen a lot in the second half we haven't really given given them a big chance and that was one of the big keys that coach jermaine said to come into this game if we can keep the ball out of salem's hands and keep the ball in our hands we can win this game and get out of here with the with the w doubles running back to the left side gonna be a pass to the left side gonna fake the arrow now dominick's gonna have to roll to the right he's running to the right he's gonna try to get to the pylon gets inside the five to the three before being brought down and it's gonna be about two yards short of a first down i think we're going to be able to get a first down in here just barely he's pretty good with him pump fakes on the run he likes to throw a little pump fake in there whenever he's rolling out to the either side of the field two train comes off schrader comes on two running backs in the backfield third down and three from the three sniffer back to the left is schrader going to hand the ball off to london it's going to be a pull great play dominic vaguely the officials still didn't know where the ball was dominic's nine yards deep and that's another columbia eagles touchdown it's great vision there by dominic vaguely that's probably his third rushing touchdown of the night i i would i think but he's shown tonight that he's uh got great awareness great vision great footwork um and only as a sophomore um coming in away look who's kicking this extra point that's the man the method legend london little in on you can do it all folks you might do a backflip after it just keep an eye out good snap good hold kick is up and it is good what do you know that avoid london so that takes it columbia 37 salem 12.
oliver schrader good thing he was there every time if he doesn't make that tackle i don't know it's gonna happen he's the last guy that was gonna be able to catch him and that guy had a lick of speed coming so we didn't have to tackle him there short of the 40 yard line but definitely got to do a better job of containing him and not letting up so many yards on kickoffs did a great job getting down the field we just over pursued kind of deal and got past the ball carrier so salem will start from their 39-yard line try to claw back into this game they've moved the ball had turnovers and their lone touchdown came when they started inside of our 10 yard line going to be a bootleg to their right side trying to cut everybody across there's going to be a hitch by number two he's going to be caught good for about 15 yards in a first down 14.
as we mentioned in the pregame broadcast columbia scored 35 in each contest between the eagles and the wildcats kept them below 15. and kept them below 15. so we're on pace here seven minutes 40 seconds remaining we are going to send it to a break as the officials got to get down to the other end of the field and we will be back after a few short seconds welcome back to jim fink field at salem high school where the eagles lead the wildcats 37-12 with 7 minutes and 40 seconds remaining webb's going to send this one deep and it will be caught at the 4 yard line by the wildcats got a good wedge and they got a man going up the middle of the field and it's going to be wibbs at an open field tackle the one man to beat he's the only man and he's going to be able to make the tackle mitchell at the 30-yard line good open field tackle there by adam wigamire definitely a touchdown there and i've been put in that position as a kicker and that is not fun that is not a fun situation because you are standing there flat-footed and this dude is flying from straight like from the goal line straight at you hasn't had a chance to stop and yeah it is it's it's tough to stop stop on a dime and try to make a tackle like that so great job webbing meyer to save a touchdown the eagle 30-yard line salem will take over at the eagle 30-yard line trailing 37-12 they're gonna go shotgun formation trips left columbia's got four down linemen gonna be a quick pass to the left side and it's going to be caught two train was there i thought they were gonna call flag for good coverage nobody knows what's going on clock's still running looks like they're going to call it a catch they are going to call it well now you got the official coming from the other side of the field saying incomplete looks like it's going to be a challenge on that the official from the the official from the other side of the field came in and said incomplete we're just gonna they're gonna send it to the booth i think in the second call gene's territory and see we'll disregard the 15 seconds i ran off the clock we won't tell anybody we won't say that's our secret trips left running back to the right side and four down linemen seven guys in the box for the eagles here sending a man on the blitz looks like it's mcconaughey or mclaren he's just a step late it's going to be a touchdown for the wildcats fastest coming to number 25 donovan williams should have been a penalty for the play throwing the ball in the end zone but there is another flag on the play gonna be a penalty in the backfield gonna be a late hit i believe on mclaren on the quarterback yep roughing the passer i guess i should call it which will be declined a result of the play touchdown wildcats personal foul on the defense that's still enough yardage for a wildcat touchdown got some fireworks getting ready to be set over here at the baseball field to our right look at that you ty you you cued that one alex boom boom boom [Music] one thing that i was thinking about 37 points this weekend cheerleaders didn't make the trip here to salem that would have been another probably 100 push-ups for them tonight no air horn that time for the wildcats salem will go for two doubles sending a man in motion fake the handoff to him quarterback and running back are gonna run into each other now he's just gonna have to get rid of it and he does and it falls to the ground incomplete the play was blown up from the start quarterback had nowhere to go on that two-point conversion rolled out and yeah from the start he was running straight backwards so great job by the columbia defense to get in the backfield early on that play so columbia still leads it 37-18 we'd like to thank everybody for listening tonight we will see you from the warmth of our own press box the wi-fi of our own press box the room of our own press box next week as the eagles in the freeburg midgets set to battle and like you said that's a game now used to be a dupo waterloo or the two games that you always schedule i think now it turns into a waterloo freebird kind of deal and like i said not too many people like playing free break you just want to get that win yeah every every year freeburg is definitely like i said earlier a game you circle on your schedule because every every game you go to freeburg it's always uh it's always a great fan section that they got there always a great venue and i know that their players are always ready to play against us so every every year we play freeberg it's always a battle and always a physical game and a fun one to watch as it has over over the past couple years we i know we played him in the playoffs i think two years ago when cole corey and all those guys were seniors i think we played them in the first round of the playoffs and we got that win so i know beating them in the playoffs is a lot a great feeling for columbia teams that have done that in the past so um yeah so freeburg is definitely a big game next week that uh i'm ready to see so because of the roughing the passer it's going to be a 15-yard penalty assessed on the kickoff so salem will be kicking off from the eagles 45-yard line instead of their own 40.
colin second it was a pretty good route there by number two he ran our cal i think it was two train ran to train all the way back and just put his foot in the ground came back to the floor he almost found like a sideline hit rat over here and he runs pretty good routes i've been watching him a little bit because he's uh he's got a lot of speed to him and he runs really good routes he put his foot foot down on the grass and two train had to get out of a break there quick not quick enough before caden b was able to make a good catch and get away from him for a first down doubles of the left side sniffer back left big kid over there gonna hand the ball off to number 44 he's just gonna get run right into the back of his lineman maybe get a yard or two out of it and nothing more as far as big as number 24 is for the wildcats six five two twenty twenty two he really didn't do too much and that's somebody i'd wanna be my lead blocker yeah didn't move anybody out of the way and we've seen this defensive line in linebackers after that first drive looks like coach germain maybe got into him a little bit and these these last couple drives for this columbia defense is starting to fill a lot a lot more gaps by the linebackers and defensive line making a lot more tackles seven guys in the box for the eagles and they're going to lose contain just a bit going to be a good gain for about 10 12 yards good for a wildcat first down and as i say that they run around the right side for a first down that happens second by columbia number 20 andrew mulding not before enough yardage for a wildcat first down looks like 75 dawson suit cup and 15 colin mclaren we're there to make that tackle first hit ten for the wildcats bone the eagle 34-yard line two minutes 54 seconds or 50 seconds rather remaining columbia leads it 13-6 in the first half doubles to the right side sniffer back right hands the ball off and he's not going to get anything stuffed great he was in the backfield before the play even started he blew up the i think it was the left tackle that he's over and he went right through him and stood right there and basically caught the running back for uh no gain coach pretty big boy mason coleman yeah yeah on the eagle that's that's a big big nose guard that you like right there clogs everything up coach jermaine saying come on garrett come on garrett see what garrett poultry is going to do on this play send a man in motion on the right side going to be a botched play he wanted to play action by dominic vaguely reading the quarterback's eyes steps up gets the interception gets a couple boys vaguely that was a nice read there by dom [Music] yeah you i don't even think that quarterback saw him i don't think so yeah vaguely was a safety i was playing about 12 to 15 yards off the ball there and he kind of just i didn't even see what route this guy ran i think he ran like a little 15 to 17 yard out route and vaguely went right across his face and made a great play on the ball that's a big play for the eagles see if we can uh run this clock out and get the ball back at halftime coming out in heavy set here london the split out receiver dom under center he's going to turn around hand the ball off to mcconaughey he's going to bust it to the outside he gets the outside and he's going to be slung down by a salem wildcat mcconaughey the ball carrier flag throne flag on the play 37-yard line number 63 for the eagles grant matheny was about 10 yards down the field and they are going to call a holding penalty on them at a lineman 10 yards down field and look yeah you look like two guys were going at it grant math and he was laying on top of number 24 so they must been going at it there on that last play but if your coach coach warner here you definitely do not want a turnover with only a minute 42 left here in this first half the turnover would absolutely kill you here as we've seen it in the we saw it in the first five minutes of the game turning it over uh inside our own five yard line so definitely do not want to see a fumble or a muffed uh snap to the quarterback here on this next play this is a good thing here a lot of blue jay teams now do go under center so it's not like you get going to be a reverse handoff this time to mcconaughey who's going to gain a couple yards not going to get much of anything the ball carrier i don't know why salem isn't calling timeouts unless they don't have any yeah i don't i think they've only called one so to bring up a second down and ten and a half in smith with under one minute to go in the first half when we go into halftime we will once again do our coach's corner our senior spotlight recap the first half [Music] and much much more maybe not much much more let us know where you're listening from where you're watching from i believe it's let us know who's all up there watching up there heavy formation for the eagles for what should be the last play of the half is going to be a turnaround hand off to mcconaughey who's not going to get anything maybe a yard and that's about it salem number 44 keaton mitchell so after a slow start columbia we're looking gonna take a 13-6 lead into the halftime not a very clean half especially after yeah fumbling inside your own five and then fumbling the ball into the end zone i mean having a touchdown basically taken away from you still going into the half up seven i'll take it columbia absolutely we got a lot to improve on coach warner coach jermaine you got your work cut out for you in halftime we will be back columbia is leading 13-6 as we head into halftime here you
so this is something that you just come out of the the change of possession you tell the guys where to line up and then they line up the wrong spot so salem's going to send it to the left side where it needs to be picked up by the eagles and it is picked up by the eagles got it just barely eagles recover it at the 22 yard line good job oliver schroeder falling on the football there yeah that was a good good job there by straighter to get to the ball and just dive on and right when he dove on it it kind of came loose but he was able to pick it up and lay on top of it and columbia football [Applause] seven minutes to go up almost 20 points three possession game you gotta just run this clock out and get out of here with no injuries and a w trips to the left side for the eagles dominic vaguely and kyle mcconaughey in the backfield going to be a handoff and dom looked like he was trying to pull it and mcconaughey wouldn't let him pull it and it's going to be a loss of three on the play here coach runner saying come on white we got to block here the game's not over yeah definitely been crazier things happen but like two fumbles in the same game into the end zone yeah in the same quarter second down and thirteen six minutes 25 seconds in counting 20 seconds on the play clock for the eagles to the left gonna fake the hand off dominic's gonna keep it he's gonna run up the middle not much blocking once again as there's two or three linemen all standing next to each other i still don't know if they've done anything i will say last week had the high snap over wibb's head early in the game and then i think there was a high snap and a p-80 as well having kyle jackson back in the game tonight haven't had a bad snap yet yeah it's really big for an offense third down and 11 for the eagles gonna look it's going to be across the middle of the field going to be caught by a columbia eagle who's gonna gain nine a yard or two short b just short is two trains two train tackle my wildcats number two i believe this would be the first punt of the game for the eagles here colombia is going to let this run down probably within the five seconds again we'll be on to do the kicking as he does all the kicking for the eagles this year got to watch the football if you're salem another good punt gonna be caught by the wildcats number 22 who's going to make one man miss he's going to slip out of the london little tackle and then he's going to be brought down after a gain of about 6.
yeah he probably ran about 20 to 30 yards on that and only gained six seven yards we will send it to a break and we will be right back with you for the last four minutes and 44 seconds of the ball game here in salem back at you here from jim finkfield in salem as salem now sends in a new quarterback into the game he's going to turn around hand the ball off they're going to try to go up the middle schroeder is going to be the first one there not going to be able to get anything done and it's going to be another 7 yards probably before the salem running back is brought down jared will be going down for a post-game interview i believe with number 23 adam wibbemeyer had a pretty good game offensively gets the pats again 48 yard line second down in three for the wildcats columbia's gonna have eight guys in the box turn around hand the ball off he's got a blocker ahead of him going to gain a couple yards maybe about seven probably by the time it's all said and done here good for another salem wildcat first down [Music] [Applause] first down for the wildcats for the wildcats boulder eagle 44 yard line as they have now entered eagle territory one tight end two running backs two split out wide receivers gonna be a pass to the right side gonna be a quick hitch and it's gonna fall incomplete intended for number three and defended by number two aaron two train three minutes 40 seconds remaining in the ball game tonight from a brisk salem illinois hope everybody had a good good friday today if you went got your fish the fire department had fish today were sold out in about an hour and a half went through about 500 pounds in no time today columbia 44 yard line second down 10 for the wildcats eight men in the box once again for the eagles it's going to be a fumbled snap and i think it might be recovered by the columbia eagles look like the quarterback just tried coming out a little bit too soon and he did fumbles on the play columbia recovered by the eagles jared good luck going down the uh the ladder rack here you gonna go get whipped sounds great time out wildcats [Music] little different feel from last week at this time couldn't see any number on any player this week the uniforms are staying clean so moms dads grandmas grandpas whoever did the laundry for the eagles did a heck of a job would have never guessed some of them turned white again saw one picture i believe it was poultry's uniform hanging up in the uh car wash trying to get it the pre-cleaning out of it so parents had to get creative and everybody for the most part tonight is all white yet a couple guys got a couple stains on them but pretty nice ball field here in salem the old grass field one of only a few turf fields left in the conference [Music] everybody else has gone to the turf i think i'd rather look at a grass field though 44 yard line eagles come out doubles formation running back turn around hand the ball off and go up the middle got a big hole can't see who the running back was on that play but he had about seven yards before being brought down looks to be can't see a number i just said i could read everybody's number and i really can't believe it's number 30 for the eagles elijah jarvis fall on the 50-yard line ball on the wildcat 49 and a half yard line eagles lead it 37-18 just under three minutes to go in the game second down and three gonna hand the ball off right up the middle once again full head of steam for jarvis good for a seven yard gain and another columbia eagle first down like to see this kid run he just gets the ball and he's going straight downhill no juking or waiting he's going to come hit you in the mouth and he's going to get a couple yards after he hits you first and 10 for the eagles all the wildcats 42-yard line keeps the clock moving two minutes 40 seconds remain eagles have a 19 point lead
home from work so he's not sure down to about nine million dollars and the reason for that is the utilization of the i'm going to call it covered money against items in the budget that we can can apply to which is certainly a benefit and a practical thing to do because it does take the burden off of the the city and ultimately taxpayers but i think i'm not sure what part of the schedule is you're going to see something here where we estimated the effects of our budget going out four or five years and you're going to see the size of these numbers with certain assumptions we've made and with one exception we don't have built into these assumptions the academy cost so any of the numbers that you see are going to be substantially increased and i say substantially because i think the carrying cost of the academy is going to be high but ultimately i think this is a turning point in denver's investigation where we as a board and going forward you as a board can no longer work alone these numbers are too too too large too drastic they change too quickly because of uh uncontrollable events they have and at least with this forecast we have it's going to be a united front going ahead to get funding on behalf of of the board of ed both by the city government as well as the board of education and i firmly think you're not only going to be able to get it from the state but i think eventually you're going to have to petition the federal government because this one-shot infusion that the government has given us now was like jump starting the economy all they've done was given us some money to jumpstart the schools for next year without any any thought process as to the initial achievement gap that we've had historically and what it's the what costs are taking place in different communities and specifically in danbury to continue the education in danbury so these numbers that i'm showing with that that you're going to be looking at i think you're going to be astronomical at some point for the city government to handle uh strictly by itself uh if they if it doesn't come to fruition then the education in danbury is going to take a back seat to a lot of our thinking to me as i said this is a turning point on everything we do or you do going forward you're going to have to start thinking out of the box and not traditional as to what we've done before um as i can pois as a case in point i think for the academy in certain expenses expenditures you should be looking for outside funding and any kind of relationships that you can get in the private sector that would mitigate our costs and certainly help make that academy successful but again that's something for a couple years down the road right now we're faced with at least the immediate problems and those problems that are only projected with certain assumptions going forward so the some of this may be complicated um it was the best format that i think we can come up with and uh i'll turn it over to courtney thanks rich um dr sal just joined us um dr zahl did you want us no i'm sorry i had computer problem no i think just for the board's information you know we've received the federal funds we have the guidelines particularly on over this esa two three we're still waiting for uh courtney's done a great job trying to coalesce all of the needs looking at the original submission to the city and um as the will of the board has indicated if there's opportunities to uh mitigate some of the expenses and um to modify what we've requested um you know we should deeply consider that and look at it and we did she did the team did and we have here some recommendations that we think are viable with that i'll just let you go courtney go ahead [Music] for a while okay i think i'm having a little bit of a connection issue if you just bear with me for one moment okay can you hear me now yes okay okay so um i we sent out some schedules um today um can you see the um presentation um the the slideshow okay okay so what i wanted to do was start with sort of level set so that we all kind of have a common set of um understanding um and i'm gonna do that from the powerpoint and then i'm gonna move into the detailed schedules and you can feel free to raise your hand and interrupt me if you'd like during the presentation of the schedules because it's a bit it's a bit complex but i want everyone to be able to see it and ask questions as we go if that's okay with you gladys um so um basically i just want first wanted to remind everybody this was our original budget request this is what we call the carry forward portion about 7.2 million and we had an additional ask of about 6.2 million for various things including the graduation and kindergarten requirements of teachers the social emotional support all the things that we've been talking about all along we're still asking for we've only made a slight modification which i'm going to point out when we go through which is a phased approach to a portion of the social emotional asp and everything else gets shifted out to the additional asser funding which i'm going to talk through in detail because i want the board to have an understanding of that as well as the risks and impacts and something that rich has really driven us to do which is to show you a multi-year um a multi-year look at the budget with these sources and what happens when we get to 25 26.
um so this is just one more reminder and it's in your packet of the original request it was 9.82 the 7 million again the carry forward and the 6 million dollar of what we call new programmatic needs which are really restorations and mandates um for the 149 million so what's new well we found out about additional coronavirus relief funds some of it we knew about already this column and some of it was new to us and i talked to gladys and she said it was helpful for us to say sr1 sr2 and sr3 because it kind of helps us with to be clear about that there's three different buckets of money as well as the coronavirus relief funds which was time limited this is showing you a schedule of how we could spend those funds over the course of time so they each have an end date where you have to spend them down and the idea is this year um when we talk about ester one sr2 and so3 sr2 was a coronavirus response and relief act sr3 is the american rescue plan these are the authorities that get grant or granted the right to allocate these funds this last column is a projected amount because we haven't received it yet the s or q is our allocation amount that we are given but we do have to apply for it and when we apply for it it's along the lines of it's allocated along our title one allocation so we will get these monies but we do have to apply for them and we do have to draw them down and submit um backup information about how we're spending them much like we do with alliance so if we were to spread this out evenly with a little tail on the end of the sr2 it's 11.2 million and this would be the result if you look at fy 2022 we talk about this big bunch of money but really it's about 13 million dedicated to 22 13 million to 23.
then it goes down to nine and then a million and then if i added a call in here 2026 it would go away because all these funds have to be spent even the sr3 by september 2026 which is our fy 2025. so total funds that we have for all coronavis relief is about 41.2 million of which we've already spent some so the rest that's left is about 36 and a half million dollars for us to allocate for the next few years and why this is important is because if when we when we get forward to talk about the braiding conversation or using some of these funds to offset what the city we were asking for from the city which was a 13 million dollar ass it's now down to 8 million that's because we're using um about 11 million or 12 million of this 36 million to fund operational costs so when we went ahead and we're still in the process of planning this out because this isn't even the application isn't even out yet but we're in the process of planning it out we said okay we can prioritize and i'll show you in detail some of the things that were in our original ask to be paid for within the some of this money about a third of it and what this looks like over time just for a visual to see if we spend it at that rate which is allowable you can see we're kind of having even spending on the coronavirus relief monies over these two years but it drops off and it goes away after fiscal 2025.
and why that's going to become important to us i'm going to get build up to this schedule but i just wanted to show you and we're going to talk through a series of assumptions and schedules that are behind this but if the city only funded us at the current rate so historically they've funded us over the last 10 years about 1.72 every year even though we've asked for three three and a half four whatever we've asked for on average they've given us 1.72 if they kept doing that every year up until fiscal 2026 when these esser monies go away we would have a 31 million dollar hole that's a problem so what we're proposing is if they were to give us this 9 million dollars this year it would be a more reasonable increase and i'm going to talk through these assumptions over the next few years and still leave us with quite a gap in fiscal 2026.
so i'm just going to go into the schedules that i sent by stopping share and then re-sharing the screen i think this is the one i'm sorry guys i just bear with me for one moment the wrong document okay um can you see a spreadsheet now a little while it would help a little larger sure thing yeah okay so this i just i'm not going to go through this one in detail but i wanted to show you what we used as a working document and just kind of talk through the logic before we get into the summary spreadsheets so basically we said here's our updated ask if we had 136 236 we wanted to restore the old enrollment growth that the city didn't give to us and add a carry forward so you'll recognize that as that 7170 keep the lights on number and then we went through and went line by line and we said okay you still have the summary of the multi-year budget oh thank you rich good morning courtney can you also make it larger when you come back sure sure okay now do you see a spreadsheet now and it's kind of it's blown up a bit it's pretty big yeah that's the correct one oh thank you so much okay so i'm going to do that one more time so i'm going to say this is our updated ask so the base was 136 236 which you recognize as our budget number and then an enrollment growth number we're saying put that back in and add the carryforge so that's 7170.
down below then we took each of the new asks so the increased enrollment piece for example we said okay this ask is 945 000 i have to pay for that all through the city budget and then we went on to the next one okay so you would see special um special education i have to pay for that through the city budget but what we did is we looked at the social emotional intervention and support which you'll recall was an ask of about 899 thousand and we said okay we could use for example s or three so we shifted that cost from the city ask into the s or three column and so on and so forth so special ed we had slp well that would have to still continue to be a city ask because you know operationally it's something that we need and it doesn't fit the other criteria um but the the nurses for example could be paid for from s or three and so on and so forth and so the curricular programming was slipped it was shifted into esther three so what that means from uh our summary documents that we we showed you last year that's how we planned out this document to show you from a multi-year perspective what would be needed we're looking at resources and then we're looking at the proposed um budget for next year so i'll just give you a sample so in fiscal year 2022 this is assuming that we have the 136 236 available as part of the base budget and then we go through line by line and say okay there's salaries there's part-time benefits everything that we currently have we've got a plan for so 136 236 and then in addition increased k-12 enrollment our original ask was 945 thousand dollars we're keeping that at 945 000 and we're paying for it with city money asking the city to give us funds to pay for that so this is for special then i have whether you know describing it in the column uh column i so it's four special edge teachers three and a half high school teachers and six elementary teachers then we move to the social emotional piece and this is the only one you'll see we've actually modified our ask so our original ask was 1.2 million and we've decreased that ask to about 000.
that's a decrease of 321 000 and the reason we did that is we said okay given all of the resources and given the conversations we've had with the board what we'll do what we'll do propose to do here is rather than hiring two aps we'll phase it in we'll hire two this year and the following the next year rather than hiring the 14 proposed student behavioral specialist we'll phase that in we'll hire seven and then seven the following year so you'll see that that line represents a reduction in this year but when you get to fiscal 2023 it's fully there plus a two and a half percent and so on and so forth so pupil services as i showed you in our planning document there's a portion that we're paying for out of the city budget and a portion out of s or ii curricular programming and support the same thing we're shifting that from city into these two funding sources esl again all the teachers are here and the psyop would be here i'm going to show you when we get to fiscal 2026 we move that back to city which is why you're going to see a big need in fiscal 20 20 25 26 um and we'll get there but this is just showing the current year and then learning loss mitigation summer school so this is just the portion of summer school that was associated with the new new request it's not the additional summer school funding that we're looking for we're accounting for that elsewhere because this is just the increased children that are coming to us this year as a result of the mandated requirements of increasing summer school options for students that were happening in spite of the virus we also need to increase um through the esther coronavirus relief funds on top of that to mitigate learning loss associated with the virus this is just the ask associated with our original request in the city budget and then you'll remember technology and operations was made up of um busing a lease and some technology requirements um and this is the same but we've been able to shift some of the funding out to the other funding sources the maintenance budget again you'll recognize this number of the enrollment ad and the general maintenance which adds up to that 7170 and we're funding that all through the city because we don't want to supplant our operations anything that we've shifted is our new things and we're going to account for that in the out years as well so you'll recognize this original total request of 13.3 million against the current budget of 135 686 now that does include the matrix funding and that was a 9.78 change in our original request now that we've modified this budget it's going down to a 9 million request on the city side this is the city column or a 6.71 percent increase because we've shifted all of these pieces into cares 1 2 and 3 for a total of about 3.8 million dollars in this year i'm just adding it up on the bottom and showing you the total here so our original request was 149 million 560 000.
our new request is 149 thousand two hundred and thirty one hundred forty nine million two hundred thirty nine thousand for a reduction of three hundred twenty one thousand for the reasons that i mentioned before about delaying some of the social emotional interventions and that's made up of um a total ask of nine million dollars from the city and then being supported with the federal funding of 3.8 million dollars now if we go out to 23 24 25 and 26 it's essentially the same thing that i'm showing you but what happens is in 2026 all of these funding don't exist for us anymore so i'm saying if we're assuming that we're still going to need to do all of these things that we proposed in this year's budget and let's say that they grow by a very conservative amount which is only two and a half percent per year and let's say that the curriculum request which was had a lot of one-time things in it is now going to drop in the out years but it still has a a need that's above our base request because right now we fund the curriculum at the end of the year you know with what's left over from underspending and really this needs to be built into our base budget and so this is the amount you know if you talk about the staffing that we committed as well as some tactile investments in curriculum materials as well as um software this is what we would need to continue to sustain so what does that mean so against the the request which is escalating by taking the original request and escalating it by just two and a half percent per year and making a few adjustments which i'm going to go over that would result in an overall meet of 176 million by the time we get to 2026.
all of these numbers are referenced on this summary document so i'm just going to go over these assumptions and then just let you know these link to all of these documents with the pieces that we just spoke about so what that means is right now we recognize the city budget of next year of a base of 136 236 if the city did nothing that's what we would have as a budget and if they gave us just 1.72 each year that would mean which is what they've given us historically over the last 10 years on average we would only get 145 million by fiscal 2026. but our need as you can see and this ties to these spreadsheets here for 23 24 25 is going to grow to 176 million by fiscal 2026 and that's only assuming a few things so it's a very conservative estimate it's assuming that we take the nine million dollar the thirteen million dollar investment that we needed nine of it's funded with city money the other uh 6 million or so is funded with i'm sorry 13.4 million is funded with esther funds over the years but that esther money goes away we assume that we just need that and i'm only adding two esl teachers per year after that and only two counselors per year after that because we talked about a multi-year approach for those and i'm adding also a two percent enrollment growth assumption which is if you fund that at twelve thousand dollars a kid with the two percent enrollment growth those are the assumptions built in it barely gets us to where we needed to be today because our 13 million ask was not enough yet and it accounts for a really modest assumption about enrollment growth so what are the two scenarios if the city only funded us at 1.72 percent next year that need would grow to 13 million then it would grow to 17 million then it would grow to 24 and then it would grow to 31 million by the time we got to 2026.
if the city funded our need this year the incremental need next year would be about 4 million because we have those other resources another 4 million and you notice the resources start to go away in fiscal because we talked about that on our other chart so the need goes up in 2025 and then in 2026 it starts to plateau a little bit um but it's also you know we have a loss in funding here so what does that mean so dr asked me to show you the percentages so if we get zero percent this year we're looking at 9.4 12.2 17.0 21.3 these would be the needs against a 1.72 increase so we would still need this much more every year if they gave us the 9 million this year the increment would be still a high increment but relatively modest we also wanted to show you the estimated alliance because you know that alliance has been traditionally used to offset some of our operational costs and so this is just the alliance increment because we're assuming that that other 14 million dollars that we have currently planned is still needed for the extension of the k for the esl teachers that it's funding for all of the curriculum um and data assessments and and things that alliance are currently being utilized for so typically we've used some of these funds to offset you know our operational needs because alliance ecs money was frozen and the only the state money is frozen and the only real increase that we get is through that alliance increase so if they freeze it these two years and they only give us the extra 2 for 6.5 by 2026 you can see how it doesn't really keep pace with the needs either so we're challenged on the city side and we're challenged on the state side and the point i suppose that we're trying to make with this presentation is even with some conservative assumptions about growth you know we need a steady commitment over time from the city and we need ramped up um advocacy to escalate this ecs funding you know at the very least to pop up the six which we should have gotten in fbi because even though we're not supposed to we could utilize that to offset some some of the projected growth that we have assumed in the budget and i'll pause there and see because that's a lot of information so far if there are any questions i have a quick question if i could sure sure courtney when you talk about the 12 000 per pupil uh uh cost can you is that city side funding at 12 000 or is that total expenses on a on a student district yeah that's total and it's just the average you know it's not even what would be needed and it's not assuming anything about you know esl because the state does have an assumption about what you need for esl and what you need first bed and what you need for children living in lower income family situations so this is just a gross assumption that just to give us a placeholder to say if we had two percent growth per year at a twelve thousand dollar cost per pupil which is still really um a low estimate um this would be what we'd be looking at okay can i guess can i ask one follow-up question i'm just i'm just wondering you know forgive me because i just don't have financial background here but i'm trying to understand the benefit you know presenting this with a conservative estimate well we know it's likely to be higher than that well we did get the demographer um analysis today so we can update that two percent um and i use that as a benchmark cost because that's roughly what we spend now without having some we can and i could put an assumption about how much it really does cost uh uh us to educate a student in danbury which we probably should do i mean that's a good feedback um because the state does have those estimates for us based on our ecs formula um so if you don't mind i could update that and send it back out um as part of the presentation that would be a good that's good thanks courtney and courtney could you go back on the revenue side and explain the concept for the esther funding the the second across this one here oh yes thank you thank you yeah that's important so what this is saying i'm showing the total here this is about 12 million dollars so as we did our planning you know you'll remember here i showed um this summary which says we actually have 36.6 million in total funding from 22 to 25 basically over the next few years but of that this is the portion 12 million that we're proposing to use to offset essentially our operational request from last year in a baseline way in an ongoing way so it's about a third of the funding that if we had to do this you know if we're getting what we do to propose to reduce the ask to the city it would mean that roughly a third of that money would be repurposed to utilize for these new asks that we had as part of this budget so be correct insane so my way of thinking is sort of we dipped into the one-time funding to to to use it going forward and have created that 12 million dollars as you talk about here would be so-called a cliff that that we resulting in in terms of utilizing the the esser money to apply it against our operating budget would that be that's correct that's correct uh rick and it and the point is if the city doesn't mean we can we can do that and we're proposing to do that but if the city doesn't maintain a steady commitment over the next few years we have to acknowledge that we would be left with a really significant hole in 2026 which doesn't even account for an academy cost of maybe even six to nine million dollars right then just to if you have that schedule i wanted to show it one of the schedules you had was the schedule of the alliance funding and the the the the proration of it over the course of of time it it was getting you know we're showing the the years that the the monies were coming in and ultimately the total uh amount of funding that would have made it whole i think was in the 50 million dollars yeah so this this one which i think you're talking about right right yeah i'm gonna make it bigger trying to make it bigger there we go is that better yeah exactly see i just want to go you know to everybody's attention that we're moving ahead and and to your point uh kate on a conservative basis you know we know that these are just estimates however just look if we were fully funded what how that money would impact us and have a favorable impact and then readjust these numbers so that it would also mitigate the the burden that the city has to to compensate us for for education and that's why in my earlier comment i said that we've got to think outside the box and now put our efforts as a city it's in its entirety to see what we can do to capture money that's do us you know not that they're paying us 10 years forward for money that was due as 10 years ago or something but it demonstrates the magnitude of the numbers and how much we're suffering because of the lack of funding that we've been getting okay and and uh so when you look at the funding rate of close to two percent a year as well as the the deficit that the state has put us in that affects the the the that affects these numbers and also going ahead is going to affect the quality of education for us in terms of what we're looking to do in denver and that's why i think it's very important to understand the impact of these numbers and how we go about collectively trying to work a solution to this particular problem you know we certainly don't want to just walk away as i mean walk away but historically when things were pre-covered the board of ed made a budget it went to the city the city gave us an appropriation and then a board of ed did its magic by coming up with doing something you know to to meet that appropriation and and basically kept the philosophy of keeping teachers in the classroom i tend to think that philosophy and i that that technology is gone now these numbers are too big and we don't have wiggle room anymore yeah i think to rich's point if you look at this 9 million ask which is 13 million because we're still funding all the things we want to do and they don't go away they're here still in 2026 right that wasn't even catching up for what we needed in 2022.
so that alone nightmare don't ask but it's it's all the 13 million of things that we asked for are funded out up to two and a half percent and the only thing that's added here is two counselors a year and two esl teachers a year so even then we're showing a big gap so i think these aren't the numbers to hang your hat on and say you told me we were going to need 30 million in 2026. these numbers are illustrative of where we are because we were so short as it was in 2022 and this includes an enrollment growth of two percent which again like you said it's a conservative enrollment growth but just to illustrate the point that with even only a two percent enrollment growth and only holding steady at the things that we asked for today with just a few modest increases in esl and then again the enrollment growth assumes the cost per people so that's busing and that's teachers and that support staff and that's all the things that go with it but still you know it leaves us with a big gap and again it's the city commitment and the state commitment um both that we need to to to all come to the terms with the fact that we're added we're at a turning point as rich said we're at a turning point where we can't ignore this looming problem any longer and with people saying that we have the esther mondays yes we do but even with us very prudently taking a third of it to support operations we still have a looming problem and we're at a turning point that we all have to come to reconcile that if we want to serve our kids appropriately and correctly for the next few years and into the future when we build our academy and when we do all the things we want to do we're going to have to start really uh acknowledging this reckoning day you know i think and again it's important to know the comment on the schedule here on underneath relative to the academy that it does not include an estimated cost for the academy so again these numbers just become higher no matter which you know which assumption you you look at but if again in in the near future we're looking to build a 90 million dollar structure or have an investment of 90 million dollars we certainly don't want to go back to what happened in the building the extension on on high school where we have a brick and mortar building and we have no funds to to staff it and we have to do that over a period of time so we didn't want to throw in that number there because that would really be my ballpark number but i think it's a an important consideration to have as to how the numbers would increase and really what at stake for us going forward and so i think what rich was asking us to show here was not just that we were being cooperative and acknowledging that the ester money is out there and some of it could be utilized for some of the things that we were doing in this budget and however even with using that that those funds it doesn't achieve the things that we need for our future with our steady commitment from the city and state and even then we're challenged you know because we were challenged so that's kind of the takeaways that we were hoping you you know dr sal and cabinet when we put this together and with rich's help that you could see you know this delicate balancing act that's that's going to be challenging for the next few years can i um say something or ask a question yes um i don't disagree that we're at a turning point for sure um this has been very helpful so thank you thank you both rich and courtney um i just to be clear the alliance increment is both alliance and ecs correct so that i mean it's supposed to be it's supposed to help fund operations as well but i don't understand why it's taken out you know why it's on the bottom [Music] and not within the formula and then so the total need should be a total city and state need yep yep i feel like we're kind of letting the state off the hook here yeah so let's say it this way i hear you and i agree with you ecs has like a 30-something million dollar base that the state has stayed flat the increment is given to us through alliance which is an adjusted formula every year you know based on our enrollment mix and we we all know that this is just saying if all things go forward the same you know without us we've found efficiencies we've done we've didn't we've dove down into the budget and found some fuel efficiency some paper efficiencies we might be able to even find some energy saving efficiencies in the future etc we've repurposed everything we could repurpose so within the formula for ecs which let me just stop sharing show here because i think you already know this but just so we all have the same terminology okay i'm putting back up this slide which this is the total funding and it's not coming up do it one more time okay this is the total funding so when we started in 2019 this 32 million was what we had when they established that legislation back in i think it was 2017 right and they said you have 32 million but you really should today have 56 million so every year from now till then we're going to adjust those numbers but we're roughly going to give you about 2.7 million every year so you're correct to say that ever so what we've gotten from then has been about 14 million dollars right that 14 million i'm not showing here because let me go back to this document we're and we can and we did in the past we're saying everything we were doing with that 14 million we still need to do all the kindergarten teachers all the esls the only thing that's going to change if the state's legislation goes forward as it is we're going to freeze not get any more money for the next two years and this is just the incremental increase so we're saying we're doing everything the same in the base for that 14 million the other part of the 14 which is the third makes up to the 20 million is part of how the state city allocates our money in our share so we're doing all this this is just showing the increment you're right we can put it together and show one big picture um which we should and the reason i included this as a below the line is because technically this is supposed to be above and beyond to close the achievement gap because we have to apply for it every year as you know we have to submit really substantial documentation that cara wandser and kara dr casmiro work on to substantiate closing the achievement gap and even though it was yesterday's dollars it's still meant to be augmented um so we could technically use it to offset this because all of our other state money is frozen outside of this alliance increment so we're not trying to i think the poor people on the board know that the standard had been at least 51 of it had to be new you know all of all of it even if it's operational which is part of which is part of the thinking it has to go to mitigating the achievement gap so when we put together the application and they do the review that's what they look for at those statistics yeah the governor the governor did it too for um when he coalesced the money with ecs saying here town it used to come out actually separate and then it was aggregated and it's been a part just so that we know that if we got 2.1 that's new money we have to put toward towards the um you know over and above the operational funds if we can so that's why you know it's been kind of like mixed in together and this isn't to say so i just wanted to add to what dr phil said too it's like like for example the kindergarten teachers that was extending the kindergarten day you know right so it was adding more hours to the kindergarten teachers and more service even though it's funding like an operational need um the esl you know teachers falling into that allowed us to expand the esl so technically it is supposed to be not supplanting what we're already doing in the budget um but it it's true that we could some of this you know could be folded back in if they if if the state put this back to right here some of the things that we're doing that we're folding into esser we could do an alliance potentially now does that leave us short again yeah you know it does but that's kind of why we showed this below the line because really this money should be available to us what it's intended to be for which is closing the achievement gap outside of all of this these basic needs that we have which total up to you know 176 million by 2026.
rachel t point the state is getting off the hook because if we go back to the schedule that we uh courtney showed on on the funding uh from the state and if you look at the total it's 56 million dollars that's really do us and they're going to get to that that that number in in 2028 just imagine if we hadn't advocated that we get that 56.56 million that's due us i mean the differential between that and and the point at which we're at is some 37 million dollars would certainly help our cause overall here regardless of of how he allocated it whether it be to alliance projects or funding it still goes to take uh a bite out of our distressed numbers that that we're asking for so we're just being shortchanged all over and over the course of time it's really come back to bite us at this particular point in time i mean we can no longer we can no longer continue to do what we've been getting and and that's why it's so important that whatever they're doing in the state legislator for this for this uh ecs uh the ecs formula we stay on top of it and we do everything possible both the city and board of ed to to make sure that we make our point clear that we get the funding and we just demonstrate to the city of danbury the the situation that we're in uh we've never had something that went ahead a number of years and i i think it's an eye-opener i'm not saying we have the answers we certainly don't have the answers to this but i think collectively we put all our cards on the table and act as one unit and not us against them or them against us but there's a problem here to resolve um we have to look how to face it and get this issue because if we don't we can ill afford to cut back you know anything in these programs that we're looking to to uh to put ahead and also as an aside point i find it and i was talking courtney today we sort of agreed on this i find it hard to believe that the federal government at this particular point would jump start the jump start education jumpstart the economy and let it go there they have to be somebody in that government has to be smart enough to realize that education hasn't been hasn't been the the funding to education vis-a-vis the the title one money hasn't been increased in in anything of any substantial quantities to to to to represent the particular times so the need is going to be in my feeling is the needs going to be in the future for the government to come in with something similar to this orisa money that that provides funding for for you know for education it's got to be another funding source for us because these are just too large for a municipality to to be able to handle at least i i think anyway but that's more editorializing yeah do we have any idea how the mill rate will be affected by this ass i don't know what the ad i don't know what the the i don't know what tomorrow's night's meeting i think on the city council budget tomorrow night agenda is the budget and i think they're going to give that number uh i would tend to think that if i were the mayor coming in or if i were the existing mayor that you know the safe place to be would try for an increase of a nominal amount knowing the economy stinks uh i can't raise taxes you know on on residents in our businesses so i'm gonna have to suck win this particular year we're gonna have to tie in our belts i mean that's what i think do i know anything more than that no it's only an assumption on my part how will that he's just wondering how this money would affect the mill rate if we happen to by some miracle get it all i just wonder you i remember we did i did this for al i don't want to misspeak on um but i can get that to you kathy because al and i did that when it was the original ask of 13 million and we translated that into mill rates and the percentage tax increase for an average home in danbury i can send that to you after this i just don't want to speak and i don't remember on the top of my head i just saw that that will be part of their argument obviously yeah it was a sizable increase okay i mean you know which is why we did come down in the number and even coming down it's an increase and the challenge is obviously you know compared to a greenwich when you're talking about one mill rate in in danbury it doesn't equal mil rate and greenwich so the fact is the state really needs to honor its commitment to catch up with our needs right you know but we want everyone to see the full picture of information and to rachel's point earlier we want to be as transparent as as is can be um so we'd like to share with you how we planned for the alliance 14 million existing spending we're just showing the increment because it hasn't been planned for yet um but but it just was so much info and you know we included that last year but now you add all of these as resources and it becomes kind of big the goal is not to let the state off the hook you know really truly you know this is the picture for the state they they have not kept pace when the when the when danbury went like this and everywhere else in connecticut went like that in terms of population they couldn't just grab back all that money and give it out so to rich's point maybe there will be some rep reconciling with the federal commitment when districts are changing like that and what how that impacts you know it's positive that danbury is growing it's challenged for our local population we're probably one of the more challenged in the country for all of these reasons we're in a state of declining a state of connecticut which is declining but we're in a region that's growing and it's growing in ways that's more expensive to educate and there's not a federal commitment so all of these forces are converging for us and you know we just all want people to be aware of the facts so we can put our advocacy in the right places and cathy the effort there is it's a meeting on a planning commission in it for denver and we'll be getting some information that the average value of the house in denver is 399 000 dollars the average value in fairfield county is what i think nine hundred thousand eight hundred ninety nine thousand or nine hundred thousand so i mean it it's you know if courtney wants to do a calculation she could do it on the 399.
um and then of course there was the the average income they had for danbury and you compare it to fairfield you know it was blown out of the water so it wasn't even you know a number that was uh even to to be mentioned but i think these are things that we have to instill on the city government and going ahead and working together there's there's a tremendous amount of information but it's going and the more information like this that i think we get out to the general public i think it would certainly educate them to understand the plight that that we have i'm not asking anybody to storm the gates or anything like that but it's and i hate to use the word transparency but i think if we just educate people as to what we see today and going forward to the best that we could at least forecast with other things in the hopper you know we've got a particular problem that we have to solve when i say we being and i can't stress that enough the city of danbury this is not a board of ed problem we can't solve this problem you know the only thing we can do is come up and put the numbers together you know and then we go with our hat you know it's like going to church every on sunday and they pass the hat or the basket and that's basically opposition in the past we've got to take more of an advocacy advocacy just a comment here um every year we've been having our conversation i and i don't think this is news to anyone that that we have been we've had shortfall so um yeah we could we could speak to all of this and um it will be the way it is what people have to keep in mind now is that the money you have our primary job your job board sal's job is to get those kids in school five days a week that's going to be unbelievably expensive what happens here as this budget goes down and you don't see it in the narrative there's only one thing you have to um to cut the budget you either cut people and we have stayed away from so you all know that we have a very lean i think administrative staff and that's fine but your class numbers are growing exponentially so when they look at us and they say danbury why is it you can't bring these kids in you're starting from a standard of 24 26 27 you're not starting from 21 or 19 to get kids down so all of this as we cut down and we still have to rent the space we still have to educate our ell kids or sped kids or gifted kids have the ap courses we've never cut athletics but you can look at it for a million dollars doesn't pay because it really impacts kids the only thing we have is to curtail the offerings at the high school and we've done some of that when they're very low enrollment but by and large your classes are going up higher higher and higher in terms of ftes and that's what's creating the the issues and the only way we've been able to mitigate these the money here and then what you have to make danbury at least uh pushing forward has been the alliance money and anything we've been able to get from title one and money that we've gotten from other grants um whatever foundation so now with the 36 million i think the thinking is well geez you know that much money they ought to be able to float through and i'm saying to you you know really that doesn't work it really doesn't and we'll cut back and as richard says it is a town problem but it's a board problem when it gets cut when you increase the numbers and you have to provide the education what courtney didn't do in here i mean we could put that's kate's point just about twelve thousand nine nine for average student but you know your all population's growing your spat population's grown because of class sizes migration in youngsters there is 19 to 20 000 a student we're the what fourth highest in ell in the state we have 2700 kids we have a growing population about 13 to 14 special ed you put that on your 12 000 students multiplied by 14 those youngsters we have to those are in special and so all of this comes down on the kids shoulders and i i'm sorry when i talk to folks in the city government they do exactly what rich said you know the economy is terrible we can't bring it to them i get that but understand that you know this money has to go to at least trying to open up the school and we can't just shift it all over to fiscal 21 or 22 to make this thing work because the cliff just gets exacerbated and that's my worry and that's my my advice to you is you know i've looked at it every year and that's where it's coming down in the class with the teachers with with high numbers of students generally speaking throughout most of the core areas in the schools so that's my worry and i think i'm sorry i just think that we've done a pretty good job of of trying to find what would apply and saying here this is a true unhonest um look at it and then courtney put the percentages on there that if they increase the percentage reasonably you know maybe there's a way around here but if you start getting 1.2 and you know 1.3 1.5 massive trouble here yeah you're still gonna have a huge gap yeah yeah and and the idea too is is so we did take a third of that and set aside for just this year's operational and then baselining it up like the the cost of the counselors and the um uh some of the esl you know the site coach for example and things like that and the curriculum needs but um there's still about 20 some odd million dollars left in the esser that were we've been planning for and and we're already over allocated in terms of what we need to do with that that money as dr saul said if we need to spread out kids if we need to buy additional buses we're looking at you know oh which brings up dutch style can i ask the board that about the bus yeah i was going to mention that to you we have the opportunity aside from here as we did a few years ago the bus company has one year left on their contract and we have been asking for more buses and they have a proposal they'll they'll give us and give it to the board to consider which would possibly reduce some of the transportation costs but they're looking for an extension of the contract as they've done in the past so i think courtney will be able to bring something to the finance group to see if it's something you're interested in doing to control some of the cost go ahead courtney yeah it's allowable and and their proposal will be we don't have the numbers but it will be you know some freezing of the per se increase and then some lowering so right now our bus contract for example is has a standard three and a half percent increase every year um and if we were to ask them to add say for example anywhere between five to ten buses next year because we're looking at um you know even this year with us in hybrid we've had some challenges with the busing because um you know we're able to distance out the kids because we've got a certain percentage that are on remote learning and then we've got half in on a given day because we're still in the three two two three but when we bring the kids in full they proceed per day until all kids are vaccinated that's not gonna work we're going to need additional buses and it's exacerbated by the problem that you know we're seeing across the teaching population and our staff in general and in your own community in your own life as people are sick you know they can't work and they have to be quarantined if they're exposed to a sick person so when we have less drivers occasionally if we don't find out until late we've got to double up a bus and that won't work with our current number of buses so dr sale asked me to look at at least um to expand five to ten buses and you know we add about two to three buses per year to account for our increased population so we're anticipating that that probably won't be just a next year issue but it will be a multi-year issue where we're going to need the additional buses so we went to sta and we said can you give us a proposal to add those buses and what would that look like and they're working through that for us but as dr mentioned what they're asking for is an extension to the existing contract we have one more year left on the contract it was a five-year contract we've done an extension in the past this was 15 years ago we had a five-year contract and we did a five-year extension the one we're in now was a new rfp four years ago so what it would do is we would extend the existing contract to be able to buy the additional buses this year and when we have the details of the proposal i'll bring it back to the finance committee but we wanted to make you aware and it will be challenging um you know as we talk to colleagues it's hard to find buses it's hard to find drivers because everybody's facing the same situation you know we're not the only ones we happen to be pretty crowded but we're not the only ones that need to spread out kids you know more in upcoming in the upcoming year and again coordinating dr stella none of anything we talked about so far has been projected to what the cost would be to open up the school next year you know with all inclusive including let's say buying or or getting an additional 10 buses uh and the possibility of renting a facility to handle the overflow so if i just picked the number you're probably looking at the buses alone is another million dollars which at some point in time i would assume would have to be absorbed in our budget uh you know i don't know if we can let all thing go but that's down the road and then the thing that would go away would be the the rental cost for a facility um uh hopefully that that certainly would would go away so there are a lot of moving parts to to what's going on and every time you look at something you know you're talking you know a million dollars here a million dollars there uh these numbers is the money that's in front of you here um the board's going to have to allocate it to opening and we're looking at a multitude of options including the things that you're talking about um we need more space that's costly um there's busing that's in here um and now we we've hired we're working with the architect to go through and vet these places out this is all moving you know 24 7 you know day by day that we're doing it but my only point is um you know it may be i think courtney said 20 million dollars in there um you know um right now some spaces can go you know be 36 76 000 square feet you know 20 to 30 dollars a square foot is reasonable if you can't find reasonable you know you're talking quite a bit of money there from that what the board needs is that we're talking staffing uh today we toyed with an idea of the 24 possibly you know now um you know um if we do that you know we always have an attrition the following year but you know the initial expenditure is high to do with that so um you know i'm going to do we can open this up if and if the town doesn't give us the money you know i'm saying to you is we got to open up somehow and they have to find the money you don't want to sit here in the fall waiting for the government to say don't worry about the three-foot mitigation anymore bring them all back in because if you do that and they don't do it you know it's really unfair to our kids and it'll create great chaos what you're not seeing here just to reiterate one more time what dr saul said and what rich said is the other 20 million so in other words we're only planning here to we're only showing you the esser portion that we plan to offset the existing cost for the current needs that we proposed in this budget and we have to baseline it because their staff and they don't go away so we're showing you that here but sal's goal and the cabinet's goal is to get the kids back five days a week next year and to sales point that's expensive and that's going to require an investment whether it's in buses or space or furniture some modifications are going to be needed in addition to the curricular work and the family engagement work that is the intention of those funds to mitigate the learning lost during the the pandemic and the social emotional challenges and all those other pieces so so just bear in mind that's going to be part of another board workshop it's just we didn't want to throw everything at you and because this sr3 funding is not yet you know ours we're not showing it to you yet because we're still in the planning process and we've got to submit that application for esther 2 in about a week and a half so we're getting important of course i just asked a question sort of help me out just a little bit we've submitted our budget the board of ad budget uh to city hall uh requesting 13 million okay and you worked it and and and and uh came bought it down uh i think seven or six million okay um how do we we can't change the budget because it's already a city off so how would this be presented to common council and and the uh mayor as to uh we asking for 13 we asked the original for 13 and now you you know we're saying that we can uh work with uh seven or eight me i just explained that to me a little bit more i think let me try that courtney before we could this is a board workshop the board as a whole mate has to vote and say look you know what because you approved it as a board tell us to modify the budget that's one way the other way is tomorrow night when we get the budget number i'm just going to speculate that we're not what we ask that's going to make an automatic cut on you anyway so that's kind of a move point you know what i mean so i think we go one step at a time see what happens tomorrow night and wednesday night at our at the board meeting we could we can present that because i have no idea about how much money that the city is going to allocate um so if they if they give you for example three three million dollars i'll just use that as an example well we already cut half of it so now we've got to cut the rest because you know where we're at um so it's it's kind of um all we're doing is a good faith effort saying look you know we have the opportunity here to mitigate it now going into it and i think it's just very uh transparent what we're doing that's where i'm at okay okay thank you yeah and gladys it let's us have that response to council too like if they say we're only going to give you 2 million because you have 30 something million we're saying no we told you we were going to make that good faith effort when we found out we got the yes or two and three money we and we've done that and we still think we need nine so we could even come back and potentially negotiate or have influence i don't know if they can do anything if they say give us four million and we say but it's really nine and look what will happen if you don't sustain the commitment that's you know yeah thank you both yeah because i think it's very you know and really need to be clear because like we're sitting here uh what is it's not even 20 of us there's so many people out in the community that don't understand what we're talking about madam chair may i yes thank you and answer response to courtney's question or the question about the mill rate i found the document the board's proposed increase of 13.3 million would require an increase of an estimated six percent to taxes and that's based on the mill rate of 2020.
thank you thank you thank you and that was the 13 million stuff it was modified down to the 9 million i'm assuming it would be 4 or something like that what's nine out of five right like a little bit modified yeah and i think was on 300 000 you estimated the value of the house too correct and you're saying it's now 399. so i can only hold 200 000 on this this estimate okay so i'll update the estimate with the average value and with our current ask and i'll send it around to the board after this the other thing that we don't know and uh up in hartford if they don't accept the governor's proposal we don't have the precipitous cut the first year so that helps mitigate this as well so that's kind of in the hopper as well i haven't been trying to read them that haven't gotten much back the only thing we all got was that the the legislators didn't receive it very positively i don't know what that really means in the end but that that's got to go into this so the model here gets a little bit wanky if if in fact it comes back and he doesn't get all of what he asked for too so keep that in the back of your mind as well i think the only thing we could set in stone is that our costs are increasing and everything else is available and basically um is an unknown so we got the tail end of the stick here um we should have been in the other side where we were you know heavy with the revenue and looking at looking to spend the money but i think courtney's done an excellent job trying to put together something that's very complicated and and and try to to present as much information as possible that that we we go forward with and and see what we have to do to to just make our point across is how how needy we are to to to get these this money yeah we can yell keep saying we can he'll afford to take a three million dollar hit and cut what we have but let's wait for tomorrow and see what happens and then we have our dog and pony show with the council to try to convince them there there is does seem to be a lot of momentum out there in supporting the school budget so it's more this year i've heard more of that than i've heard in the past i think that's good whatever that you know whatever that means i i don't know but certainly to have support and people advocate for us is a good thing but it's okay go ahead courtney okay oh i just wanted a second with rich said because i i truly appreciate all the work that um kevin and dr sal and and the community group with amy and rich and kate and gladys have done to set up the community outreach because it's been really invaluable i think to be able to educate people about the different pieces of funding that we have and what that means for us for the future and so so thank you for everybody that participated in those meetings it's been helpful to me um and yeah i'm sorry kate if it's okay i'd like to just make a comment um i i am i i have to say i'm still sitting here with some reservation because what we're talking about is how to keep the schools afloat in their current in our current situation like maintaining the current level of services that we have with an expectation of those enrollment increases and how to plan for those enrollment increases um and i know that there's the component of you know planning for the career academy but i but i do still have some reservation here because you know we're walking back the ask that we made um you know based around what our what what this short list of needs are and i don't feel like we're giving a full picture of what some of the larger needs are in our district um you know one of the things that's come up a number of times is a conversation about the gifted and talented program that we don't have um this kind of budget planning unfortunately and this the context we're giving this budget doesn't really take that kind of you know doesn't take that into account it doesn't talk about an expansion of you know different types of um educational programming that maybe in our schools is not as robust because of the constraints of our existing budget situation and i i do think that it would be really helpful if we could have a list of you know sort of the existing needs whether those are building and structural repairs whether those are you know curriculum planning uh costs um whether those are you know areas that we might be interested in expanding to to create a more robust educational experience for our kids if we had that list to begin with i think the conversation that we could have with um the community and with city leadership might look a little different because it would be easier to say this is you know this is what our goal is this is this is what we're looking for and this is the portion that we're asking for help with i think it would just help provide some you know some context for what we're asking for and sort of give perspective on like the bigger picture of what we're trying to do with the schools so i and i realized like right now this year has just been um one new deadline after another so i i certainly appreciate courtney all the hard work you've put in this um dr sal kevin everybody who's been involved in in the planning and i don't want to diminish that in any way i just i just think that this is another piece that we have to think a little bit more about in order to give you know city leadership a sense of the big picture of what we're doing well kate thank you for that and um we in this new budget there there's there's a lot of support and i will say to you in my departing words that when you develop the portrait of a graduate in there will give you a set of standards that you will measure the activities that you do in the schools regarding whether it's remediation or extension of curriculum i think that's that that'll give you us that'll give you an alignment to what we're all about and what the argument is regarding what do we have to offer in order to challenge all the kids i would i would employ to look at that and then um and then see how we can uh achieve that in meeting the needs of our students because in our in our population i will say at the high school you have one of the most comprehensive high schools in the state you are offering gifted programs at the state at the high school we are i would be challenged at the middle school at the elementary to offer some special programming so i think you know it's legitimate our money has been focusing on getting to the core remediating and then pacing so you know we do some extensions and that's a lot of it based on teacher interest and things of that nature so i think the timing is good we could talk with that but looking at the portrait of the graduate would give you a set of standards of of how we can move things for kids to challenge them um so that's what i would say we should do and i think you got an excellent person in dr kazmerita she'll take three hours of you one minute and tell you how we can get there yeah you know so i think we can do that once we have i think once you have that portrait of the graduate so but thank you for that thanks dr sam she has done that to a degree with what we had gotten i mean we've seen it you know with the s as her one or the cares money and the alliance carryover this year and what she's been able to leverage in that short period of time you know she will build on we will build on continue to push for and you're right in a budget presentation it should be reflect your values it should have all those things and you know we need to get there we absolutely need to get there um so according before we go i think people in the public might have a question about the um revitalize america whatever they want to call sm3 we don't have anything in writing i mean i should say we have some things in running but nothing concrete right so we have to get that before we could start saying this hey you know what we're doing with it so people out there i'm wondering and saying well there's something they're not telling us and i'm saying no we don't really know we know we're supposed to get it right for sure we know we have the s two money for sure we're getting the other but we don't have a lot of details to be looking at is that accurate that's correct yeah so you know for me from finance it's not until i have the signed letter or the grant in the system so sr2 is in the system we know how much we're getting we know how much we have to apply for we know how to apply for it sr3 was just kind of passed to us from a colleague that said this is the estimate right now now it all makes sense because we see how the federal rule and how it's allocated to the state and what the state assumption is we can say yeah we're pretty much sure we're going to get this much money and at all you know but we have not seen anything official from the state about it um not yet so to be determined and they expect to have it out to us in the next week or so so we should have more information soon about esther iii thank you mr ginelli no i have them were to say just thank everybody for their reference courtney and the administration i do want to comment one thing the administration we have is is it should be included in these numbers here is is probably the lowest in the state of connecticut it's hard to fathom that we continue to work under these conditions with uh six or seven people in a cabinet you know for the most time it's it's it's mind-boggling the amount of work they have to do and sometimes it's being more reactive than proactive which is unhealthy so i think we've got to change that as well okay well you know um thanks i i just i'm going to go to a pto meeting at 7 30 and i got about 25 questions and i i just want to lay out to the board i've known you for a number of years that um you know part of part of the challenge we're having is to try to follow the best practice in my view and in the medical view in terms of distancing and i think any mitigation of this money that doesn't come your way to think that we're going to force in the population populating the school is going to be problematic unless you want to abandon the three-foot rule and um you know that this time i i will make a recommendation to the board uh in terms of how to handle that but uh we haven't done that and that's my worry for next year yeah you're going to increase your numbers if you don't get the money but if you're under the pandemic particularly for k-8 you might be okay for the high school it looks like but k-8 um it's it's it's going to be a challenge to all of us to try to do that so i just want you to be i'm sure you're aware of it thanks rich thank you all for attending the workshop courtney uh and everyone that was affiliated with putting the workshop together okay yeah yeah for putting the workshop together i want to thank you uh you know the committee and al russo is our uh black up chairperson uh for this committee and i just want to thank all the members that uh attended the workshop so if there's no other questions that anyone would like to say uh i would like a motion to adjourn the meeting the workshop i'll make a motion modes are made by mrs janelle seconded by a second exactly about kate okay i forgot did you get the uh i forgot [Laughter] motion made by mrs janelle in second by kate thank you all so very much and thank you courtney so very much okay good night thanks everyone