And so you so you can't just look at what's good for tomorrow and what's good for next year. You have to have a one year, three year, 5 year, 10 year plan. um buildings get older, things need to be replaced, things need to be fixed. So, I would look at all of that and I would work on it with with those people and then I would come back over and over. Another part of my methodology would be to make sure there's no surprises. You can't always you can't always predict surprises. You can't always predict a leaky roof or um I saw today that the a pipe had burst in one of the elementary schools. Um, I know they're fixing that kindergarten. So, um, you can't predict everything, but you can you can go with the scenarios. You can say, "What if what if what if this happens?" You can have plan A, plan B, and plan C.
>> Okay. Thank you. All right. Any other questions from the committee about this? Any questions from non-committee members? All right. Seeing none, I am look for a motion to be made to recommend updated Cape policy 5145.12 search and seizure to the board for a first read. >> Motion. >> All right. Thank you, Sherry. May I have a second on that, please? >> Second. >> Um, we give that one to Wanita. Thank you. >> All those in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. Anyone opposed? Motion so carries. All right, Kelly, let's tee up that last one. >> The last one I'm actually going to make a request. Uh, this is policy 5142 and it is student safety. I do think it's a pretty extensive policy to go through. We also got some recent feedback in which we want to make one or two recommended revisions.
This is and it's not the best paying job so go do something else. I think those are all things that challenge us. >> What about the fact that you know they don't just teach now? I think you folks always not I mean you but you know everybody sort of just goes over that issue that they're not just teaching anymore. They have to be caretakers. They have to be nurses. They have to, you know, dispense with with with medication. They have to change diapers. They have to do all kinds of stuff now. And I know that because I hear that from a lot of the a lot of the people that went into teaching. It's not like before. They they they taught 100% of the time. They taught. And now that that's not the only that's not the only reason. And then the parents are no longer I shouldn't say this because I know I got calls about it, but they're not as involved.
>> Thank you. >> It's 10:01. I'll see you back at 10:16. >> Leave this one for you. Oh, >> please stretch. Sitting is the new smoking. My hips can attest. >> Yeah, just let them see my talking note. My talking points. It don't make sense to me. Bunch of numbers. What is your >> birthday party? >> I'm so sorry. I haven't looked at chats. I've just been focused on getting data. >> Is it cool if I go to the deal for >> sure? or do you miss ahead? >> Um I don't I mean other than just really understanding the information that we're bringing and so you'll wanna Oh, there it is. Um you'll want to understand how we got to the numbers and things like that. We can discuss some of that later. Um, but just that's good information for you to >> No, I don't think you need to say.
>> So that will just shift. So they're they're actually not losing very much space at all. >> Okay. All right. That's good. Y >> uh my other question is >> um we were talking about the great room and how often it's used by community groups from the seniors to you know us when we have meetings there and things like that. How what's the timing of that basically being out of commission and how long would that be and what can residents expect with that? >> I've been told it would be out for a couple days. >> Oh, okay. >> It's not long to >> I was going to ask I was going to ask because you were talking about like March. >> I thought the same thing. >> Yeah. >> And we would never do it where it impacted programming that we already have scheduled. So, we'll try to fit it in creatively so it doesn't actually impact anything.
And when you have to go to the plan B or plan C, then I would want to make sure that um the schools know it, the union is aware of it, the school committee is aware of it, city council, and just come back to the table. So, it's a lot about communication um and it's a lot about transparency. It it is tough times right now and so we want to make sure that we're working as a team um and we're hearing all the voices and then when the tough decisions have to be made, you know, I put that out for the school committee and um to see which way you would like me to go. And so that's how I would do it. Hi, thank you for coming. Yes, >> it is important that schools work closely with other city departments and city boards. Could you tell us how you have successfully worked in these environments and what you will do here to develop those linkages?
So, um, if the committee would be okay with it, I'd like to, uh, pause this one and postpone it as the first one in our next policy meeting in March. Are folks amendable to that? I certainly am. >> Yes, >> absolutely. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Do I have a motion to table that policy, please? To table updated uh CA policy 5142, student safety. >> Motion. >> Thank you, Sharon. >> Thank you, Minnie. >> Thank you. Uh, all those in favor >> go. >> Sorry. >> All those in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> Anyone opposed? >> Okay. Motion carries. Thank you. Sorry. >> I apologize. I just wanted to let you know um we are getting towards the very end of the 5000 series, which was a huge feat. It's one of our largest series. Um, I think we're going to need another next meeting and the following one and then we can safely be through the 5000 series.
They drop the children off to school and expect the school to correct all of the problems that is going on with the child. And when they don't do it, then they get really angry with the teachers and with with the schools because yeah, people believing that, you know, that they should be able to drop the child off at two years old and then pick them up at senior year, right? Pretty much. So the demands on school and expectations of school are different today and a lot our our communities are different. Um and especially postco we're seeing a lot of different needs in schools and so to help our students to be successful in uh the learning goals that we have for them. Schools have done a lot more um >> yeah but have crippled have we crippled our families because of that? Have we crippled them to thinking that the school is the panacea and the more problems they are the more that we as government and we want to you know help everybody have taken on these burdens which then doesn't solve the problem but just keeps make growing it bigger because if you look at every year Bill you know we used to take the take them at at four years old for preschool now three years old and then it's two years old I've had calls come in and so it's pretty much like you know after you have the baby just drop the kid off And but you know but that's been the kind of um attitude I think that is prevalent now and you know the responsibilities for the family has really shrunk in that sense.
Um, I just think it's important that um, you get the inner workings of how we physically plan forward. Um, and so just maybe that part of the conversation and as we talk about, you know, This morning I woke up to understand like five years out from now. So it's good to have someone who has the knowledge along the way and make sure we share all that with you. >> I'm still [laughter] the temptation. >> I know the temptation is gonna be so >> [laughter] >> I could go right now. >> I won't, but I just I know me. I won't. I got two years, but that'll go real fast. >> You're still young. >> That will go really fast. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, for sure. >> David. >> Okay, cool. That's nice. >> I would like to figure out what we're doing with it then.
>> Okay. Great. Y Thank you. Thank you for all your work and it's nice to see all the all the faces of the community center because we don't get to see you guys all that often. So I mean we see candy and you know but [laughter] but it's good to it's good to see you guys and thank you for all the work that you do. So and welcome welcome to Ashlin. So it's a good it's a pretty good town. We like it here. >> Yeah. So thank you very much. That was a great presentation and uh yes I I ditto welcome to Ashland. We're happy to have you here and there is such tremendous amount of commu community support that happens um in that building right it's really a very special place for the way it reaches so many different people of all ages and and needs and everything else.
>> So, I think one of the um the biggest positives and one of the reasons I've been so successful in Chipe is I have been there a long time. So, I've developed a lot of relationships over the years. Um, and I do understand that the importance of that. So, I would um I think it's unbelievably important to have those relationships that people know that they can come talk to you, that people believe in your integrity and they believe that they can trust you. And so, if I were to work here with city departments and city boards, I would want to have similar relationships. And that means putting the time in. That means having the conversations um being around going to going to whatever open meetings that I am allowed to go to, invited to um you know watching them as well when I can. I I have seen a couple city council meetings and so I think it's important that that you build the trust and that people trust me.
Um, the next uh series after that is the other equally long policy series which is all your student policies related to curriculum and instruction um and programming for kids. Um, so I would expect that we would be able to start that and then continue on that in the fall. Um and and the la the only other one that we have left after this comprehensive policy audit that we went through everything is some of our financial policies um that we need to also come back to. We've done some updates and some of the critical things that we've needed to do, but a comprehensive review of those. So um good news is we're winding the corner with the 5,000 uh the 6,000 series will be very similar. Um and then uh what we will do is um then circle back to the remainder of the finance policies and then this full committee has went through all the policies since the audit in I think it was 2019.
Um but have we done too much to enable that kind of culture? Senator, I think it's a question for the community and the legislature as a whole body about what our expectations are of the Department of Education and I think it's a question worth asking. But I >> Yes. >> But the Department of Education being that this is your this is your you know this is just one part of all the problems in in our state. you folks are on education to be the leaders to say hey wait a minute enough is enough or stop or this is the cause why you know people don't want to go into education why students aren't pursuing it they see what the teachers are going through I mean there's got to be not just so okay we'll do this bill oh okay yeah we we'll take on more yeah you know we we'll we'll we'll hire more psychologists yeah let's you know and you guys embrace all of this I mean that's been my my sense in these hearings Yeah.
It was kind of stuffy. >> Me and Rachel have been discussing juicing our >> direction. Bless you. years it and then you know static >> they just keep paper supplies and something >> and some custodial paper and custodial. So the other part is you know recouping some of that space you know the family resource center you know more space we got you know we just got some space >> let's set up the video >> and you know I when I walk through the warehouse and I just entire shelves out shelves of decorated paper >> right So, you know, it's obviously not something, right? >> So, that's that's priority for next year. going to continue with the finance information >> presentation. Russell. >> Hey Russell. Oh jeez. I'm not on like it's not doing anything. I plugged in. >> Having issues again. Can you send me a presentation?
Um I just what what's going to happen to their space upstairs? I I maybe missed that that [snorts] you know those little offices that they have upstairs. So those offices will stay. Yeah. >> Um so currently right now u Mary is actually share it's it's a really strange office right so it was Susan's Susan has the office in the back and then um Mary has an office in the front but it's really not an office because Susan actually has to walk through >> Mary's space. >> Yeah. It was supposed to be like a little sitting area. So Mary will actually have her own office now um in that space and then we'll utilize that other office that's back there because they're fine offices. Um but you have to walk through the grumpy men's club to get to your office. It it kind of stinks, right?
So some of the so as student support well as vice principal principal and now as the assistant super of student supports I work very closely with um the city council but I also work closely with the fire department the police department and outside agencies in the city. So, I'm responsible for working with the police department on um on lockdown trainings and I did this year I did a professional development myself with the help of the police department and I trained all staff on um fire hazards, safety hazards, lockdown procedures. Uh we also added some signs of suicide and some mental health in there. And it was important for me to do the PD myself with a little help from a police officer for a few things. Um, but it was really important for me to do the PD myself so that the people that I work with understood that I understood the importance of it.
>> Oh nice. Um, so, um, Kelly, do we have any mandated policies >> that we need to do before the end of the school year that might go into effect >> like we did last June? No, there is nothing on my radar currently. Now, that said, um, the legislative session is opening, so we will be very mindful to see if there are any tweaks or changes that need to be put in place. Um, but there is no policy that I'm aware of to date that we have to get in before the end of the year. If that does um come to be, what I would just do is ask that we address that policy first and then continue on with any remaining whatever series we're in at that point in time. >> Thank you. >> Um, I just want to ask a real question, Dr.
And I think maybe we can ask uh the board of education to send a report to us to um give us a clue or give us a heads up on why you know people are not going into teaching. What could we do or try to do to enhance it so that we can recruit more teachers? >> We So thank you Senator. We also have the teacher education coordinating committee which is created by statute and it brings together all the teacher preparation programs together with department of education and um I think that is something we can bring up with them >> we can we can share a report that they provided and then see whether or not we should um further ask them to >> um and elaborate on that. But I I think that these groups, as worthy as they are, see focusing on the same thing, pay, housing, right?
on screen. >> Oh, okay. [clears throat] Uh, just email it. Or Joel, do you >> I don't mind. >> Yeah, it just some of it's not in the links. All right, that's fine. I can I can make do. Okay. Uh, I guess let's just go to the What do you guys want to hear about first? Budget or compression? >> Compression. Okay. Um Joel in the meet and confer links can you move um can you click into the complex uh compression review folder and then show the folder. Okay. So in the folder uh let me go to the folder too because I can't see that far away. Okay. Um there's quite a few documents in here uh to look at at your leisure. Um these are the compression uh revised schedules. You can see that there's the original schedules are there and then there Oh, that benefit analysis is in there.
[laughter] >> So Oh, I'm sorry. Dull men's scrum. Not grumpy. Sorry. >> Dull men's club. Sorry. >> Grumpy men's [laughter] club. >> Sorry. I don't know that dull is any I I don't know. Is there a sign that says grumpy men's club? >> There was an article dull apparently >> because that's going to be my office then. [laughter] >> It's that movie. It's the movie Grumpy Old Men. >> Okay. [laughter] Sorry. My bad. I apologize to all of those lovely men. And I have gone I grumpy old man. So I'm >> That is like that is one of the best programs going right now at the senior center by the way. It is packed all the time. >> Um >> nationwide movement. >> It is packed. >> It is. It is packed. Don't be all >> at any rate. So, that will be used for veteran services.