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Well, so we weren't really sure about that part, but basically what we were saying is sometimes there are hourly employees that I'm going to use this as an example that are landscapers, but they get pulled to do the school cleaning because that has to happen and the landscaping can wait, but it's a different rate of pay. and so their job isn't getting done, but then they're also doing the same job as somebody that may get paid more. So, that was part of the conversation. And then the other part of the conversation was um when hourly employees get pulled to do different things that may be after their 40 hours, like certified has $35 an hour for any extra duties that they do. Classified doesn't have that. It's all different rates of pay and so it gets complicated. >> Okay, let's Joel's gonna speak to that.
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Right. Right. And and and does >> but Rob doesn't know about all the other things like the highway does that storm water for storm water. >> Well, that could be a piece of it. Right. >> So that's the problem when you have volunteers who like take such an active interest. They don't know and they're not they can't. It's just so much experience and so much >> stuff that goes into it. I think it's well then then it needs to be explained, right? They need to understand what employee >> or we could just let him do like do his work, you know, let Doug, >> you know, manage his manage his his budgets. >> No, no. I I I'm not suggesting we don't do that. I'm just saying if if the storm water committee feels like, you know, they're paying 80% of their this person's salary, but they're this person's only giving them 20% of their time or something.
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>> For classified employees, it becomes what's called a blended rate. So depending on what that task is, right? So the minimum right now and this might be something you look at is the um extra duty pay for classified staff is at the lowest cell in the this classified pay. Um but if it's it starts to be blended with their current salary or current rate of pay and then that's a calculation on the other side that um sort of blends those two rates together. Uh and so it it and then we also had the additional challenge of what the new overtime rules are which is not exactly what I think people thought it was uh when it was announced um through the big bill. So, so it's I think that would be another one that we might need more studying. >> Yeah, I think we um we also have to keep in mind that um hourly staff are looked at under u FLSA laws differently than uh salary.
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I don't know. Yeah. But but is the 20% of the seven highway guys that are going towards storm water does was that made apparent last night? >> Yeah. Yeah. The I don't I'm not sure what you're asking. >> So the seven guys that we pay through highway Yeah. that do storm water work. >> Oh that that are 100% through highway. >> Yeah. >> Oh okay. No no there wasn't that wasn't brought up really. Okay. They do some So Absolutely. And that was one of the things because at one point Becca Solomon who's very knowledgeable and she does a great job of managing everybody and you know she mentioned um I think it's Becca Navaro that I think 25% of her salary is paid from storm water. She doesn't do anything for storm water but Becca Solomon does and maybe that there should be a shift.
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Um so there's a cost there uh of how you calculate pay and um even with the blended rate depending upon what happens to them during that pay week or pay period uh we have a obligation to pay them at the higher rate for all hours versus just their blended hours depending upon the scenarios and the situation. So it's just a lot more complex when you're talking about hourly pay versus the salary. Not to say not to do it, but just >> yeah, just might need some more info. >> Need legal stuff. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Thank you for that input. >> Any other options for coverage from classified? >> No. Thank you. Certified options for coverage or division of labor. >> Um we have equitable prep time. So that was related again to this the special areas teachers. Standardized duty across sites. Um, we talked a little bit about breakfast in the classroom versus morning duty, etc.
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Right. So, I think it's something that just needs to be looked at and certainly, you know, I I feel like Doug, I'm I'm sure and I think he needs to get have what he needs to have to do what they do in this community, right? But >> we just need to make sure that everybody understands. >> I think it's a it's a great question, but I think we have to be careful because we're just doing board reports and >> we want to make sure we don't get into too much detail and and ask questions because >> Yeah. Well, I was I just really meant it to be that was a conversation that was had and >> Okay. >> And that's that's it. Okay. That I thought it was >> interesting% of Becca's >> I think it was >> okay. >> I I I might have that.
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Um, paras for gened for K2 specifically. We have a lot of high need students in K2 that are not in special education and so having Jed Paris would help with that. Um, and then clerical assistant for sites with virtual psychologists. So, we talked about how we have some contract psychologists who are entirely 100% virtual. Um and they people have to make copies and get signatures and people just currently do that without there being any sort of compensation or employee in charge of that. >> Okay. Equitable prep standardized duty across sites paras for K2 gened and uh clerical assistant for sites >> with the virtual psych contracted. All your virtual psyches are contracted. Is that correct? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, two that are not >> okay. Good. Anything over here for coverage? Thank you, Brian. >> We had site like a site behavior interventionist, site assessment person.
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>> Okay. >> Um yeah, that's good. >> Thank you. Are you all set? >> Yeah. Thanks. >> Thank you, Claudia. Brandy. Um, so I was also at MMA and had lots of great conversations, lots of budget conversations. Budget has been on the minds of everyone. Um the governor released her budget um what this past week >> and I haven't had a chance to really look at it, but >> um I don't know whether or not it'll be interesting to see how that affects our budget um once that gets through all the the you know the House and Senate, >> right? We won't have final numbers until July. So, >> so, but >> if we're lucky, >> still has to go to the House, has to go to the Senate. >> I mean, I mean, it's quite a process. But um but you know I know it was funny because Governor Healey um was at MMA and had you know had and they talk they talk about the support to communities and you know I do wish and I know this is going to be kind of just whatever but I don't feel like they really are focused on all the top like getting the communities what they need and I I think that we we had talked MMA has talked about how kind of the system is broken um as far as how like unrestricted government aid gets gets passed down to to communities >> at the the chapter 70 funding like it's all >> this shell game that doesn't really give communities what they need to be able to to to [snorts] meet the needs of their their residents.
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Um, many of the sites have a kind of a behavior interventionist, but it's paid out of like different different ways or it's done in different different styles. Um, so making that kind of like a mandatory um, position, maybe even a certified position. Um, and then an assessment person to help with um, district testing, state testing, CFAs, all all that sort of stuff. >> Okay, so here's what I have. Thank you. Flat rate for classified employees. Um, blended rate. We need some more explor exploration around that. hire additional staff and fill vacancies, equitable prep time. Uh, this was specifically around special area teachers. Is that correct? >> Or how they're used? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Everybody gets the same prep like if it's is it 40 minutes across all sites? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh, standardized duties across site. That's about breakfast in the classroom. Don't have breakfast in the classroom.
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So, it'll be interesting to see how that conversation evolves because um you know, I mean, her her her remarks at MMA were just kind of eh and and it's almost literally like not knowing exactly who your audience is. And >> she didn't even talk about the budget. She didn't even talk about >> the report that the MMA came out with about the financial storm and some suggestions as to what they can do. They totally ignored it which was >> she said she's like oh I know I know you guys are facing financial pressure and that was about it. >> So what precisely was covered that would have been >> talked about like like the grants like the like one-stop grants and you know what I don't even honestly I did not take notes because it wasn't it wasn't as memorable >> as I had hoped it would have been okay to put it that way.
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might have supervision duties something along those lines. Paras K2 paras for gened a uh clerical assistant for contracted site behavior position site assessment position >> check. Yes. I just have a question. >> Only if you have a mic. >> Is the the the option about the special areas is that related to the previous conversation about the whole one, two, three thing and having uh the the preps and used for other things. Is that >> it's just like we we've noticed that the in so at many sites special areas teachers have additional preps. how they're utilized is not standardized in any way, shape or form. And so it's like, you know, people would feel people don't feel that it's always equitable depending on the site and depending on the implementation how that time is being used. >> It's also an imbalance of workload compared to other certified staff in the building.
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But um so that was MMA and um so as far as committee stuff goes, I'm going to go to sustainability tomorrow and I was at most of the concom meeting this last Monday. They were talking about 61 Waverly. Um, we had also received um an invitation from um Ryan Turnliffe >> for um Eagle Scout >> for an Eagle Scout Court of Honor. >> Um Ryan had reached out to me and I said, "Oh, send it send it to the select board," which he did. And then I like RSVPd. I'm like, "Am I RSVPing for the whole entire select board?" >> Um how they sent it to >> Yeah, I I called him on and he sent it individually. >> Okay. But I was like, "Oh, that wasn't what I expected to do." So, I just wanted to let you know. >> Ry's going. >> Yeah.
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>> So is the message that special areas have more preps and other groups do not have as many? Is that >> Yes. When you compare them to other certified? >> Yeah. I guess it's more about how the the time is being used. >> Oh, I thought it was about the fact that they get so many more compared to other certified stuff on campus. >> I mean, if they were >> That's that was my question because I heard two competing things >> because if they're I mean, if they're breaking rocks in the courtyard, I don't think anyone would complain and say, "Sign me up." Right. But it just it depends on how the time is being used. >> I mean, I would rather >> Sounds like we need more information to actually know what's happening from sight to sight. Yeah. >> And what I'm going to go out on a limb here and say for all of these options, similar to our time, you've created some options that uh may have an impact on the budget, hiring additional staff, um hiring paras, hiring a clerical assistant, hiring a site behavior, hiring a site assessment position.
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[laughter] >> So, >> I know at least two of us are going, so I don't know about the others, but Yeah. >> So, um So, yeah. So, that's that's on Sunday, March 15th, I believe. So, >> um if anybody wants to be my plus one, just let me know and I'll >> I'm hoping to be I'm hoping to be your plus one. >> Okay. [laughter] >> And then I have Joe as my plus one, too. So, we, you know, um, so congratulations to Austin Turnliffe who's going to be going to be receiving his, um, Court of Honor. >> And, um, other than that, we'll be at the library this Saturday, 9 to 11. Um, come bring your questions, come bring your budget questions, come bring your >> concerns, issues, any concerns that you have. We're going to be we're going to be there um along with where the book sale is going to be.
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>> The theoretically, I mean, the PAR one, in my opinion, doesn't necessarily have to be an addition. And it could be just reallocation of their the current uh sorry not the PAR the clerical uh could just be a reallocation of what the current uh front office is doing. You're like you're doing this you're doing that or you're if they're already doing X Y and Z now they get to do A B and C kind of thing. Not I guess my point is not necessarily. I and I think what I'm saying is similar which is I think there's more additional information needed because I'm hearing different things are happening at different sites expectations >> and so before we go on to evaluate these and come to consensus on oh yeah we're going to try this option it sounds like we need more information for both the time and the coverage option we've developed and sorry Joel and Vanessa or Dominic or whomever is going to have to look into this and maybe teaching and learning.
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So, downstairs. >> Yep. And >> you be in El Cold >> somewhere >> wherever they put us. >> Yeah. The library folks are really good to they they're they're very supportive of us um hiding there in the winter time. So [laughter] it's true. Um and I think that's all I have for now. So um yeah, that's about it. >> Good. >> Thank you. Thank you for the updates. um my meeting with the uh the students that are involved with uh the new uh no um nic nicotine free generation. I'll be meeting with them uh on the 20 I'm sorry on the 10th uh next week at uh 3 to 4:00 and up at the high school conference room. Um I had to I had to cancel my previous meeting with them but definitely a meeting with them next next week on that. I met with the affordable housing trust.
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Uh Lisa, I like how you just put threw her under the bus. >> When they're when they're doing that research, can you also add in like school size cuz schools the population I think also has an effect on that as well, you know, like this school has these many students and that, you know, just to have that be part of the research part. >> Anything's possible. All right, let me have you >> I have a question. >> Come back to your tables and then uh >> I just have >> Let's get the microphone real quick. >> Well, you said that we need to do um collect more data. Do we need to put like official This is a request for next meeting or can you just pick up on what the request would be? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh we're Joel is saying, you know, it'd be great if we have a list of what the data is that we need to collect.
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Um there'll be a presentation and a sitdown discussion with Beth Reynolds regarding your all the street property and the potential project with affordable housing trust uh and the Habitat for Humanity. Uh unfortunately I won't be there. I'll be out of state. Uh hopefully I'll try to hook up on Zoom if I I remember that that it's there and I'm not lavishing in a pool or whatever. Uh anyway, and um Council on Aging will be my first meeting with them tomorrow at 10:30. I'm looking forward to it. And um go Pads. >> Go Pads. Uh stay safe. And if you have senior citizens that live around you, please check on them. I know it's been very very cold. Um, if we have another cold snap, which they're talking about again, do we have warming centers for uh for folks if if need be? >> We're working with the emergency Keith.
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And so if you guys are okay, it sounds like we're going to go through this list and say, okay, we're need >> how much would it cost and what would that position be? Like if if you do a site behavior and it's a certified position, then you're going to use a teacher salary, right? uh how much would it be to add a clerical assistant if you got that sort of thing? So, we'll help Joel come up with that to-do list at later. Not in this moment if that unless you guys you can speak to it right now. >> I agree. I think we can that way we don't forget to come back, right? Okay. >> I'm happy to hand you these lists. All right. So, what I want to do next is um there were other items within working condition that showed up in your survey.
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>> Yeah. Okay. >> To figure that out. >> All right. I just I just want to make sure we have some sort sort of plan available and ready for it to to go. >> Pockets. >> Hot pockets. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] So, with that, uh stay safe everybody and uh I won't see you folks. Uh, so happy Valentine's Day to you you ladies will be coming up. >> Get your Valentine be away. >> And um I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> So moved. Second. >> All those in favor? I I see you. >> Thank you very much. Good night everybody and stay warm.
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