we would just have to be mindful of the effect of having to adjust our office space. Um, so and budgetary constraints. So that will have to be taken into consideration. >> I'm going to restate my motion to go into executive session. >> If there are no other questions currently, >> President Buchanan, this is Superintendent Reichman. >> Could I just add one thing? Yes, >> we are projecting next fall around 25 students in ASB and then the following year we will have less than 20. Again, this is ASB students. >> So, we are looking >> I'm sorry, Superintendent Reichman. There is a disruption in the crowd. >> This is this is a warning. >> I don't care because I'm going to leave right now. You're going to I would she can be removed anyone. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Just so you know, you guys are going to be separating for what?
For a number OF [applause] Can you get on my personal space, please? >> Can I finish my statement? >> Uh, there is a disruption in the crowd. Attendant Reichman, just give us a minute. >> Get out of my way. Excuse me. >> You guys are cowards. You guys are disgusting. >> You can leave now. [applause] I will not tolerate any more disruptions. [applause] I would like to respect everybody's time to be here. Okay, this is not trying to silence voices, but this is trying to be respectful of time and respective of governance of this board. Superintendent Regman, I am sorry you were interrupted. Please continue. >> As I was saying, when we look at the number of students, we can have space at Copper Creek for all students to be there again depending on their IEP team decision. And so that was what I was going to say before the interruption.
Uh, a point of clarification on that. When you say that it's an IEP team decision, excuse my ignorance on this specific topic, but does that mean the IEP team meets and uh, we'll use Tucson Unified School District since that seems to be majority. Tucson Unified School District says, "No, we cannot physically have this student on our campus. We need them to attend your facility that you have at Copper Creek. Is that what we're kind of talking about here? >> Again, the IEP team does decide placement and that decision includes the school district. It includes ASDB. It includes the student's parents and the student. I This is board memory cannon. I guess I Okay, so there could be a recommendation on one side of the IEP that says we need this student to go to Copper Creek and there could be a discussion on if Copper Creek facility physically is a good or not good fit for the student.
Is that correct? I'm not sure what you mean by that, President Buchanan. >> Our students are admitted to, we're talking about ASB specifically. Our students are specifically admitted to the Arizona State School of the Blind. This has historically been a campusbased decision. they are coming to our Tucson campus. However, what we are talking about with the construction of a cluster site versus a on campus, a physical campus um that we either own or lease. We are now talking about admitting students to the school ASB as a more conceptual idea. that is physically placed possibly at a Tucson Unified School District building. My question then is how can a student be how does does the IEP team say we don't need just the conceptual admittance to ASB we need physical placement at ASB And can that compel us to place a student physically at Copper Creek?
President Buchanan. And if the IEP team determines that, the student should be physically placed at ASDB school and we are in agreement to that placement. the team is in agreement to that placement, then the student will go to Copper Creek. Again, what I have been saying with the number of students we currently have, it will not be a full school >> because we will not have a sufficient number of student enrollment to have a complete school. So, that school would become a program for those students who are blind and visually impaired. I appreciate the uh clarification. I was obviously trying to just clarify um the conceptual ASB in reference in light of the cluster site versus physical placement. And it sounds like as IEP teams are current, I understand currently meeting with students and families about placement that we a do have space currently at Copper Creek in a flex um kind of way.
Correct. A flex uh we have the ability to flex for ASB students if needed. >> Correct. So factually we have space Factually, an IEP team will absolutely determine without bias where the student needs to be placed as far as educational needs such as school of the blind as well as physical placement of the student. These are the facts of how this >> this goes. >> They kicked us out. They didn't say anything about us going that way. They told us that our kids not involved. >> I can't do it anymore. You told me the >> no. >> I'm going to restate my motion to go into executive session so we can clarify and let things settle down. Just uh just to your point, board member Kaylor, that the executive session is only to assault our assistant attorney generals in the the laws surrounding education. So if that is what you are your point is, I am willing to accept a motion at this point to go into executive session with our attorney generals.
>> I think that's what it says for discussion, consultation, legal advice for the board's attorneys. I continue to make that motion. >> Is there a second? This is board member Terry. I second. We will do a roll call vote for this. Linda Both >> I >> Colette Chapman >> I >> Diana Haron >> I >> Shauna Tam Tamiko >> I >> and I uh board member Buchanan say I >> do I get a vote or >> you made the motion? >> I'm just asking >> the board will now go into executive session. Yeah, [cough] >> sorry. >> Secretary Bove, would you please uh actually maybe I'll just read it because I think I have it right here. Uh it's um pursuant to ARS 38 431 03A1 the board may go in may vote to go into executive session which will not be open to the public for the purposes of discussion and consideration oh of employ uh that's not the right one I am so sorry pursuent to ARS 38431 103 A2.
The board may vote to go into executive session which will not be open to the public for discussion or consideration of Am I reading the right one? >> It's the three Britney. There is too many uh AR pursuant to ARS 03 A3. The board may vote to go into executive session which will not be open to the public for discussion, consultation, and legal advice with the board's attorneys as it relates to this item. So you don't just session. Um, and we are still on agenda item 5.2. Um, before uh a vote, I will take any other further discussion. The board pass or any other further questions. Otherwise, if there is none, we can have a motion to vote on 5.2. >> Excuse me. Um, this is board member Terry. Yes, >> I was thinking that we should potentially hold that decision and not make a decision tonight.
>> If you would like a decision not to be made tonight on this, I will need you to make a motion to table this to a future meeting, however you would like to um maybe envision seeing that working. and then we'll take a roll call vote which means um for the general public we will go board member by board member for our votes. >> This is board member Terry. I move that we uh table this decision and do not make a decision tonight. >> Is there a second to board member Terry's motion? >> I'll second that motion. This is Bill >> [snorts] >> Okay. [clears throat] Board member Herren, do you have a vote? >> I oppose. >> Board member both. >> I oppose. >> Board member Chapman. >> I oppose. >> Board member Tamiko. >> I oppose. Uh, I am board member Buchanan and I oppose.
The motion carries. Motion fails. >> Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. The motion does not carry. [snorts] I will entertain another motion for this for a decision on this. Seems like there um I will make the motion. I am board president Buchanan. I am going to make a motion to uh move forward on the lease agreement for the Afi school district and ASDB um change of location as outlined here in our lease agreement and uh per policy CBA. >> I second. >> I'm sorry. This is um this is board member Herren. Do we need to um also add who is authorized to sign that lease? >> Um I have no problem um adding to the motion that we will give the discretionary authority to Superintendent Reichman to sign that lease. >> Colette Chapman, do you still second that? >> I second. >> All right, we'll do roll call vote.
Um board member Heron >> I. Board member Terry. >> Nay. >> Board member Both. >> I. >> Board member Tamiko. >> I. >> Uh, board member Kaylor. >> No. >> I am board member Buchanan and I vote yay. >> What? Oh, you made the motion. >> Oh, I just so sorry. >> Okay. >> Board member Chapman. >> I have the majority. The motion carries. That delegates the authority to sign the lease for the Copper Creek um school um with Superintendent Reichman. >> For our next action item, it is 6.2. The reduction in force of teachers and staff. Um, this is an action item that requires a vote. The board be before you, you have the policy GCA that outlines um, how reduction in force is done. Um, which superintendent did recommend did go over in her report earlier in this evening. Um and uh part of your documents is the numbers that superintendent did um mention as far as the overall count of positions that would like to be rifted and um the order that they go in.
I'll give the board a minute um in case they need to consult their documents before u making a motion to uh let me make sure I have this um motion to give Superintendent Reichman the authority to have a reduction in force of teachers and staff. So moved. >> I uh CL I did not make a motion. I said I would entertain that motion. >> Sorry. >> Okay. Uh I move that item 6.2 reduction in force of teachers and staff be approved. >> I'll take a second. >> A second. This is board member both. Again, we will do a roll call vote. Board member Heron >> I. >> Board member Terry >> abstain. >> Uh, board member Bo seconded. >> Oh, I sorry. I'm in favor of course. Yeah. >> Okay. >> I did second. Yes. >> Um, board member Tamiko. >> I. >> Board member Kaylor.
Before I make my vote, I I would like to offer that this action will gut this agency of highly qualified and highly concerned individuals. I vote no. >> I am board member Buchanan. [applause] >> I am board member Buchanan. I vote in favor. Majority wins. Motion carries. >> We did seven. Okay. Next act.
Um, next item on the agenda is 7.1 information discussion item introduction and possible discussion of policy DBA. Good evening, board president Buchanan, members of the board, superintendent Reichman, assistant superintendent, staff, and members of the community. Um, you >> guys got to go. You guys are terrible. [snorts] >> Just let the school go. It' be better. >> Please. Um, just give a second, Maria. You're unbelievable. >> You all are welcome to excuse yourself from the board meeting. This is not respectful discourse. >> Go look at yourself in the mirror. >> Can't even run a board meeting >> without stuttering. >> I'm so glad we're just coming against disabilities. stutter. >> Katie Senko here. Wait, I'd like to say one thing. >> It truly breaks my heart to see this is happening. >> I'm very disappointed. >> I am very extremely disappointed in seeing this happen that we've arrived to this You are not listening to the community.
>> You're not listening to alumni. You're not listening to your stakeholders. >> Stakeholders. >> Look at the people in the audience. >> Look at who's here. the faces of teachers, students, >> half of your workforce. >> This is a detrimental impact of the quality and service of education to deaf and blind students. >> You can do better. >> I have a lot of respect for ASUB, a lot of respect for each and every one of you. But when you're not willing to accept anyone's feedback in the process, not even parents >> to share their grief. >> And Bill is the only one the only board member >> who has come to our community's forum to hear out the parents. Where were you? Where were you? >> If you're asking personally, I was on Zoom. >> Thank you. It's a really unfortunate situation and it saddens me.
>> I now I'm going to go home. >> I drove two hours. I spent the entire day at the capital speaking with the legislature on how to best support ASDB the entire morning to come here with hope for the best. But unfortunately, this isn't it. I'm really devastated and disappointed >> and I truly hope you reconsider this decision. >> I'm leaving to be with my family. >> That's all. Thank you. >> Thank you. [applause] >> We will not have any other interruptions. Maria, please continue with your report.
>> As I was saying, good evening board members, superintendent Reichman, Assistant Superintendent, staff, and members of the community. Um, you have before you the red line of policy DBA. And one public comment was received in regards to DBA. And uh I will paraphrase um the uh this member of the public uh requested that because trust funds are intended to support students over the long term, substanti substantive revisions require careful scrutiny. Uh and while the categories may be appropriate under certain circumstances for the with for the withdrawal of trust funds, um this comment said that the timing of the revisions raises governance questions as to whether the policies are being considered in isolation or in context of the current and anticipated expenditures. Um, this person also respectfully requests that the board um ensure that any policy changes um ensure that the record includes a clear explanation of how the proposed policy changes interact with um anticipated relocation, lease, capital, and programmatic expenditures.
Um also multi-year projections that would show the cumulative impact of trust fund utilization under the existing policy. Um clarification of how the revised utilization limits and expenditure categories preserve capital and confirmation that policy revisions are not being introduced primarily to support or justify decisions that are already under review. So, um I believe that assistant superintendent Cooper um spoke to uh these policy revisions in her report earlier um today and um the draw down amount is not being changed as part of the policy. Uh what is being um contemplated is to add um capital improvements, furniture, fixtures and equipment and information technology infrastructure to the list of items that can be um that trust funds can be utilized for. Uh and again this this was in response to a um suggestion that the auditor general made um in order to uh increase the number of funds that we could use for some of these expenditures.
And with that, I'm available for questions. Oh, and I'm sorry, this is a first read, so no, there will not be a vote tonight. Does any board member have any questions for Maria on 7.1? >> Seeing none, thank you Maria for your report. >> Thank you. >> We had moved 7.2 to above 5.2. So we'll move on. 7.3 and 7.4 were under the consent agent agenda items. We are down to 8.1, which is the call to the public on non-aggenda items. Uh, Secretary Bo, do you have any Actually, I might have them have called to the public on non-aggenda items. for non-aggendaized items. Um, a person submitted a comment, Stacy Smith. Are you here? >> No, they are not here. >> Okay. Uh, do I go to Britney? Do I go to the next one or do >> these are um you're currently going through the public comments that were submitted through our website.
So, these will actually be posted on our website per policy. But if you are here, we would like to give you the opportunity to speak if need be. >> Okay. I don't see Stacy. So the next person is Astred Goodstein. >> Also not here. >> Okay. Astrid left. Um again this comment is posted online. >> And I will move to our next set here. I've got two um again non-aggendaized item comments. Richard McLuren. >> Richard, are you here? >> Not here. Okay. Louise Marie Torres. Louise, are you still here? Seeing none. Okay. And that is all of the comments we received. Thank you. Next is um 8.2 discussion and possible action item agenda items for the next regular board meeting which is scheduled March 12th in Tucson. Board members, >> this bill, I'd like to have an information and discussion item that was requested for this board meeting that was removed.