I had questions about like um >> storage in addition, you know, is that didn't happen. We didn't make the addition big enough to do that. Is that still an issue? So, there's going to be some things come up like that. We can start hammering through that whenever you're ready to get in that. I do know they're purging >> with the new principal has been purging a bunch there and getting rid of a bunch of stuff. >> Okay. >> So, I think some of that's getting freed up from what I've gathered. >> Good. >> You can walk in that shed now. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Back up. Going back through this, one of the big questions I had was auditorium lighting. That's what I was just >> because you all were working with Purdue and other people and and I didn't know the outcome of that if it's sold.
Um we have first up on this is Department of Education. Once again, [clears throat] >> good afternoon, chairs, vice chairs, um members of the committees. Tammy Chun, Department of Education, Department of Education supports this bill. Um there's things that need to be worked out from a collective bargaining point of view. However, thank you. >> Thank you. Attorney General's Office. Good afternoon, chairs, vice chairs, and members of the committee. Jenny Nakamoto, deputy attorney general. We did submit comments on this bill, uh, specifically asking to include a perspective in P on pages three and four to add in after retiring teachers hired after June 30th, 2026. And we also asked to add in a section three um where the act wouldn't affect the duties matured already and ask >> can you expound on that? >> So section three we're seeking to include language that the act would not affect rights and duties that have matured already.
>> Yeah. >> It just kind of dropped. >> Um the person that was working with Purdue is no longer there. >> Um >> the performances that have went on unless Corey has got complaints. I have not. Okay. So, I don't know. We replaced some stuff in a sound system there that I feel like could have been causing some of that electrical issues we were having. But that's just guessing on my part, but I don't I honestly don't have an answer for you on that. >> Okay. >> I wrote in here in the notes, no recent complaints for this date, but we'll have to figure out whether you know That's >> I know Cory still has it on his >> Okay. >> capital projects. >> All right. Well, again, it's you I don't know if if you're thinking about combination of pushing what you're going to push to capital improvements this year [snorts] and and you know what's going to be a next contracted cluster of things to make a project.
So in other words you know whatever they've acred up until that time we wouldn't be affecting those people. only those teachers who come back to work under this who have been retired already moving forward after June 30th. >> Okay. Is there uh six the six month or the one year? >> I believe this one is the 12 month. >> Okay. Is the other bill that's the other bill is six months. >> Is that right? >> Um the other bill >> you probably don't know that. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> I'm getting mixed up so many different bills. Okay. Osatui from HSDA. >> Thank you. Uh, Calbertt Young. >> Uh, good afternoon, chairs, members. Um, so the board of trustees for the employee retirement system has not reviewed or taken an official position on this bill, but administration has submitted testimony just offering comments.
You know, the the big ticket items that I see that like raise red flags for me chillers and the two things we did as alternates that you prioritized highly last time. >> So those I mean as the project's going on do you think there's going to be funding in them to take care of those two? >> We that one came out really close on the budget. I mean on the nail. So there was no extra money in it. >> And I don't think the winner is helping us on that end either. >> What the children? >> Oh no. The project's going on now. >> Trenton, are you guys in pretty good shape with your outside equipment? Well, we've got a lot of stuff on not on this list, but on our capital projects list to start up >> we have here after Stacy's done this stuff.
Um uh and those comments summarized are that there are a number of components already in the proposed bill. So as the as the bill continues to progress, it would be good for the legislature to keep uh focus on those um because they are related to the overall sustainability of the pension system itself. >> So what in particular uh is we should be focusing on? Um so this bill as you mentioned um with the last testifier this bill sets a 12 month element um break service versus the previous or the other bill which was 6 months. So our recommendation on the previous bill was that it should be 12 months because there is already in existing statutes this provision for other uh applications. It's 12 months and the 12 months is important because it uh the IRS code requires that there be a bonafide break in service um in order to not jeopardize the tax exempt status of uh the pension system.
>> Yeah. >> Are there any items on here you want to uh >> but like we have here on here which we take care of, right? The otter dining hall. >> Yep. And that's like here at the top. >> Yeah. >> I put that I puted it to the top here. basically done. >> The yellow ones are done >> or being done. I should say that. >> And then are you going to send that to us then? >> Oh, yeah. >> We get done messing with it today. All this is is [snorts] >> Okay. >> These are nonissues there. corporate storage renovation. Is that here? >> Well, so so that's a big question because we talked about storage everywhere. >> And one of the things we did or the big back and forth was, well, are we going to get rid of that and build something somewhere else?
So that's why the recommendation is this this bill has 12 months. So keep an eye on you know that that's a good that is a good mark because it's already consistent in statute. >> The other thing is that um the way these positions get determined or classified of which positions are applicable for this uh return to work. um the way it is written it it's it's good because it's spelt out and it also involves um the human resources directors of all the employer jurisdictions. So in this case the the the DOE the state deerd that is important to again maintain consistency across the application for all positions within government employee in this case department of education. Okay, thank you. Eggno charter schools. [clears throat] >> Aloha, Chair Marcato Kim and Chair Elephante PJ4 on behalf of Dr. No.
Are we going to renovate that? Well, in in what was built there's a significant storage space but that's probably mostly for the outdoor sports equipment >> get it out of there and move it over. So you you have to readress that the whole issue of storage in light of >> once it's done >> what you've been done what the principal a doing right now I think you have to readress it kind of a fresh from where you're at now because you've made some decisions and things have happened but not exactly what we listed out here. >> Yeah. So that's kind of a new >> I would suggest you have to take a new approach to that what you're thinking. >> Well, we're not looking at putting money in that building. >> But yeah, I think >> that storage building. >> No, >> I was just trying to clarif to to handle the paper and the file boxes that were there.
The commission stands on its submitted testimony in support of SB 2872 and is here to answer any questions. >> Thank you. Glenn Kagimita, is he here? Not here. Anyone else wishing to testify on this measure that didn't sign off? Okay, members, we are open for questions.
>> We're planning on bringing that >> bringing that here. Yeah. But >> one of the one of the conversations I recall is bring the paper here, >> bring the sport stuff over there and maybe even you don't need that anymore. >> So the correct the two 20 228 228,000 >> cost there was for that would be was for that if that would >> Yeah. >> Well, I know I didn't know if it was this building to house the stuff that was there or thought that was kind of Okay. So that's that's a big zero right there. >> Yeah. Permanently. >> So in years past sometimes the snow blades off your trucks would be over here. Is there going to be room for that out of BC now? >> Well the snow plates are fine but like the paper all the paper storage. We like 30 pallets of paper at a time.
Any questions from anyone? >> Do we have a time limit on this measure? >> Okay. Yep. >> Did we do five years or was that the other bill? I'm getting mixed up. >> Okay, we can we can look at that.
>> Is the storage facility at the BC annex going to be climate controlled? >> Yes. So that was part of that situation was keeping that paper in a climate controlled zone. So that would be >> you know what now now you say that I >> I can't remember if the storage section of that building has air conditioning. I can't remember that but probably not would be my guess. >> I don't think it does. >> I think it's just >> we never intended for the paper to be out there. >> It was to be here. >> Yeah. >> Oh here in this building. >> In this building. >> Yeah. that we were really hoping that could be for the big uh athletic items, >> co pad, stuff like that. >> High jump. [snorts] >> Yeah. So, if the paper is stored here, is that going to sh from being able to handle it pallets at a time to handling it manually boxes at a time.
Other than that, I don't believe I have any questions. Members, you have any questions? I think this bill is is very important along with the next bill that we will take up because it certainly helps to fill the pipeline. uh we get teachers who've been teaching, have all the experience there. And so certainly it would be um advantageous if these people want to come back and help us at least temporarily uh while we we train our and get our licensed teachers on board. Okay, with that I'm going to switch over to our labor chair for the next two bills. >> Okay, thank you so much chair. Our next item on our agenda is Senate Bill 2391. This is relating to education pursuant to collective bargaining agree agreement negotiated for bargaining unit 5 and subject to the availability of funds provides annual step increases for public school teachers who have completed one year satisfactory service and comply with specific requirements.
>> Are you talking just white paper pallets at a time? Yeah. Not the records paper, >> right? Yeah. Just blank stuff for copy. Just black paper. >> But how much did you say? >> 30 pallets. >> Yeah. >> And we probably We need to find out then if if we have to order it in that much. >> Maybe we don't have to get the distance. >> Get them bigger. Yeah. >> Can you order it at that much, pay for it, and then they deliver it as needed? >> I don't know. We could check into that. >> Now, I do know that Prairie Crossing uh and Ottoman both have purged and cleaned up. So maybe some of the schools can take more than what they have now. I mean in back there I mean I don't know that would be a J Jennifer and Brandy question but they need all of those bays for we have one mechanic in three bays you can pick up one the first one you know there is add admin add bus bay oh bus bay exhaust I was not reading the small print very well >> I I think let's just say in theory If if you said, "Well, we're going to do what we started in our priorities last time >> at number TW's, let's say, we're going to capture number TWS." That's $915,000 of prime contracts that doesn't have soft cost in >> just the number TWS then that we haven't >> that that would be your contractor cost to get capture every other cost.
First up on our list is JN MUTO office of the collective bargaining chief negotiator in in opposition. Uh it is Mr. Must on Zoom? >> Not on Zoom. Chair. >> Okay. Thank you. From the Attorney General's office, Amanda Dolan or Jeffrey Kent. >> Aloha. Welcome. Well, good afternoon chairs. Um I'm Jeff Ken. I'm deputy attorney general. Um you basically we have a comments on this bill. Basically, while the intent on this is good, the it conflicts with the collective bargaining process and chapter 89. We did provide some language to allow for this if you did want to proceed with it. And then we also have some very tiny technical amendments. Don't really affect the subject at all. >> Okay. Thank you, Deputy Attorney General Kent. Uh we also have in person from the DOE, Superintendent Hayashi or Representative. >> Good afternoon. Tammy Chun, Deputy Superintendent.
You really got to add about 21% to that. What about the ones that I'm seeing on our paper that like are you know smaller little items the >> um admin HVAC >> those are the ones already being done if it says capital projects >> over in the right hand colum >> okay they're already >> that means we decided that probably wasn't going to be a part of a construction project it would be through the capital improvements budget That's all that really. So, >> and what Tracy will show us uh in a little bit is that there's only so much >> in capital projects annually and it just doesn't go very far anymore with the cost of things. So, part of it is is what do we use for capital projects and then how do we finance the other pieces. Yeah, most of those are well, there's one 30,000, one 50,000, but most are 20 20 or less.
The Department of Education provides comments on this matter. We appreciate the um support in improving our ability to attract and retain teachers. The comments that we have are um there's details in the testimony, but I just wanted to summarize to say it that bargaining unit 5 includes more than people who are teachers. It includes counselors, librarians, and other job titles. So, we just wanted to clarify that. And the other is we would like for consideration for the step increase to extend to the other bargaining units um in the department of education as well. Um some of the other ones have also have shortages. And then finally, if this is passed, I'm requesting funding to provide to cover the cost. >> Okay. Thank you so much. >> We have Pakia Kalaka Bard. >> Okay. Thank you so much. Standing in support, Tuli Tafi from UPW. >> On behalf of UPW standing on our testimony, providing comment.
>> And the 2025 ones are already allotted for and have that >> you'd have to look at that and tell those things have been done. I don't know. >> Not necessarily, but >> okay. because well to me like if they were ones and we just keep overlooking them because they're being paid by something else then >> that's not really serving us >> and that's what uh Tracy and the directors and the principles soon they will go over their list of items. Um Stacy, how about if there are things like the fire alarm system? Okay. Where is BC's and Prairie crossings then? Do are or are there things where if you're going to do this, >> then you better grab that one because it's the same. >> Yeah. >> This building right here needs a fire alarm system. I mean, it's that was one of the stronger recommendations in the report.
Okay. Providing comments. Thank you, Grace Brown. Okay. And TFA is teach for America, right? Got it. >> Uh, Osatu, HSTA. >> Aloha. Welcome. Hello, chairs, committee members. Thank you so much for having us. I'm Osati, president of HSTA. Nice to see you all again. Uh with regards to testimony that said this violates collective bargaining so forth and so on. I would like to strongly point out the fact that our collective bargaining agreement says the parties recognize that annual incremental step movements are a viable recruiting and retention tool. So the parties are the employer plus us. So not just us. Teachers who are not at the top of the salary schedule and who have effective evaluation shall move to the next highest step of the corresponding class at the beginning of each school year. annual increment step in movements are subject to funding. So that is already bargained language.