>> So, most of your threes became 10, right? All of them except for one. >> Are the doors from the courtyard still having issues at Prairie? Yeah. What do we know about the doors that Bruce was always talking about? They were >> I have a recollection. [snorts] >> Okay. >> Is those kinds of doors that have to that have to be in a courtyard for egress. They swing in instead of out and they're a nightmare to keep them from leaking. It it it's not just you. It's every time that happens. Find a way not to do it right. That's my my design advice. But what I recall that I did was I gave Bruce >> a detail and a number on a specific threshold that helps the situation tremendously and that was going to be the step from a just a capital maintenance to do that.
It very might very well might be that funding can go to various agencies not necessarily um through department of labor. So it can be a collaborative among members of the workforce development council could it not? >> Yeah absolutely. >> Thank you. Thank you chair question. Would you be okay, director, if we put the rulemaking authority under DLIR? >> Okay. Thank you. Members, any further questions? Okay. If not, do you want to recess or roll into >> DM? >> Yeah, I'm ready. Okay. Um, we're going to go into decision-m. >> Okay. Members, going back to uh Senate Bill 3179. This is relating to the safety of educational workers. Um the fact that DOE is working on a policy for their harassment within the employees of the DOE uh the recommendations would be that this measure would apply to uh anyone non-DOE uh outside of the DOE family.
So I don't know if it happened through Bruce after I gave the information. I don't know that. Uh but that was what we said would be the first step. Uh if it's something further than that, we talked about you almost got to build something out to keep the weather away from the door. That's the next step, which is expensive, you know, but if the threshold probably should be tried first if it has been because I've had this problem before and it's that particular kind of threshold has gone a long ways to deal with. >> Okay. >> So, so what are the twos with the only three left? I guess. Oh, I guess I can add that the one three onto the twos and I can do that. >> Yeah. >> Well, I can do the spreadsheet really really fast. It's uh a million bucks. Million65.
Also a recommendation is to amend on page five the word may be embedded into training on the training issue shall be uh and that we on the question with the attorney general the TR that any legal actions support would be with the TTRO process only and um there were a couple other uh attorney general amendments that also would like to adopt adding the words because of the educational workers position as education. Um yes, was there anything else? I think that carries on any other technical amendments that may be necessary.
>> Okay. >> I would say too, as we're we're talking and and listening to the how how we just learned how capital projects money is moved out beyond time for a big thing. I would almost say that the chill is probably you should probably do that. We decided that last time that it's coming up, but the PC chiller uh you know five plus years a year ago. So start thinking about how you're going to set money back for that one, >> right? >> Or if you know in four years you're going to have another geo bond, just don't forget that's needs probably be in there maybe, you know, right? So don't lose track of, >> right? So that's not a red on my thing right now, but I'm just saying that's the kind of thing though if it catches you off guard, it's hard to deal with because it's a big chunk of money.
Any questions, members? Any discussion? Hearing none. Um the recommendation then would be to amend to an SD1 for the vote. Senator Kadani, chair votes I >> for Senate Bill 3179. >> Correct. >> To pass with amendments. >> Chair votes I. Vice chair votes I. Senator Fukunada. >> Excused. >> Senator Hashimoto. >> Hi. >> Senator Court. >> I was adopted. Madam Chair, >> thank you. >> For the Okay. >> For the committee on labor and technology, same recommendation as edu to pass with amendments.
>> Yeah. >> So yeah, that's just something to think about. >> Yeah. And >> the BC auditorium lighting I'm getting mixed. I would I would say for now that could be pushed back because it when now when it's when we're having the trouble it sounds like it's very intermittent and not happening as often. So So uh could be pushed back or should be pushed back, [laughter] right? It's up to you all whether you say, "Okay, we're we're not going to keep putting this off or or we're going to include it in something we're doing." I mean, I was just throwing it out. >> I think we want to do it. I'm I'm with Tracy here. It just seems like you pour money into it without salt. We haven't really got to the >> event on the current priority and it's a part of a designed and contracted scope of work.
Uh any discussion? If not, vice chair lamas for the vote. Chair votes I. >> Members voting on SB 3179. Recommendation of the chair is to pass with amendments. Um chair votes I. Vice chair also votes I. Senator Ihara excuse. Senator Mory [laughter] >> I senator Favlla is also excused. Chair recommendation is adopted. >> Thank you. >> Okay. And the next the next bill is Senate Bill 2872. This is relating to the retired education employees. Um, this members, this actually this bill amends the current education law. And what I would like to recommend is we delete the words that it only applies to only hard to fill um >> and and shooter addresses the shoot um such a shortage. I think this should this should apply to everybody. It should apply to all of the schools. um yeah, charter schools and whether they're hard to fill or not, which then addresses some of the issues I think in the pilot pilot project.
It's something we got to get into and figure out what is the scope. We don't know that. Okay. But if it makes the list and say we're going to deal with that this time, we need to get into it enough to really nail down the scope on it. It's going to take some >> do that engineer. >> It's probably going to be >> the electrical engineer, which is Bob from primary and maybe also u a company that does that tech stuff that they work with. They might be come together to do some investigations and figure it out. Are there other items on here that would require an electrical engineer? >> Oh, sir, >> that would >> Yeah. >> You know, hey, save a little bit of money that way, I would think. >> They'd be a part of the design team. I mean, if you got a chiller, you got electrical engineer.
That is a bill we're going to hear later. So, um see, so removing that and yeah, I think that clarifies that. Did I miss anything? uh and any AG recommendations that we can go over and any technical amendments if there needs be.
>> Okay. >> And primary is that the engineer can come and they have the electrical and the mechanical engineer within that. So if we were when we were doing one of the chillers or something, we could also kind of add this into the scope where we look at that lighting. >> Oh, absolutely. >> Okay. >> We'd package it one, you know, I would I would essentially put together a [clears throat] request for a proposal from the design team. Okay. >> Here's our scope that the school wants to pursue. Give a price for what it would take for you to get that design done. You know, that's okay. >> What about these smaller items uh up on the second page. Number fours when we're looking at like the um mini split rooftop H. No, that that was expensive, but we're we're looking at like 25,000 50,000.
So with that any discussion members hearing none chair um chair votes eye on Senate Bill 3179 with amendments. >> Oops. >> Is this 2872 >> 2872 that was >> Senate Bill 2872 with amendments. Chair >> I vice chair votes I senator excused. Excused. Senator Hashimoto. >> Hi. >> Senator Dort. >> Hi. >> Measures adopted. Madam chair. >> Thank you. >> For the committee on labor and technology. Same recommendation on Senate Bill 2872 to pass with amendments. Any further discussion? If not, um vice chair lau for the vote. Chair votes I. >> Members voting on 2872. Recommendation of the chair is to pass with amendments. Now noting all um members present from um labor committee and technology. Um, anyone voting with reservations or no?
Are those items that we can put off for another year of capital projects? like 27 and Ryan. Are those still needed and necessary? >> Well, a lot of these come out of that >> assessment. >> Yeah. >> And that's something. >> You want me to talk through the number fours a little bit? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. So, uh, the the rooftop HVAC obviously at the time included the floor because you figured you could get some more time out of what you got. I'd have to go back here a combination of go back here and see what the engineer said. I read this morning, but I don't remember exactly on that. And and then, you know, Ryan Bruce would say, "Well, everything's working great. We don't have any problems with it." So, you say, "Well, let's push it off till the next conversation." That's up to you all, right?
Hearing none, chair, recommendation is adopted. >> Thank you so much. Our next item on agenda is Senate Bill 2398. This is relating to education. Chair is going to recommend that we pass with amendments. We're going to adopt the AG's proposed amendments and their testimony. We're also going to change the effective date to January 1st, 2077. Any further discussion? >> What bill number is that? >> We are on 2391. >> 91. >> Yes.
It's on the list. Four is kind of high, but if you [clears throat] probably a unit like that, well, it's not one you want to get. That's a bigger one. So, you gota it's might not be a shelf unit. I don't know where you just go go and get it. So, that might be an issue. It's a matter of how it's functioning right now. if it's a big maintenance hassle or not >> if it's working perfectly and it's even if it's old, >> you know, it said it is >> the condition of the equipment is fair to pour. >> Yeah. >> In the assessment, >> but just because it says that on an engineering assessment that doesn't mean everything because you have to talk to your your maintenance people and say, "Hey, >> yeah, you would expect it looks poor. You expect it to be running badly, but to be honest with you, we never had a problem with it, you know.
Any discussion, members? Okay. If not, Vice Chair Lamasaw for the vote. Chair votes I. >> Sorry. Um, all right. Members voting on 239 SP 2391. Recommendation of the chair is to pass with amendments. Um, noting all members present. Anyone voting with reservations or no?
So, you have to weigh that. >> And sometimes they just base it on the years. >> Yeah. Right. Right. >> Well, when they say they're saying there, they looked at it and it looked sketchy. That's what they're saying. >> I mean, you know, like like my car has a little rust on it, but she sure runs. >> So, here here's two ways two ways that a kind of a a high level assessment goes on HVAC equipment. was you you go [clears throat] and you do what you can do on your day that you're there, which is >> for instance, in this case, you you probably looked it over and it looks sketchy, but you don't know for sure how are things functioning. So, you talk to the maintenance people. How is it how is it running? Yeah. >> And then you also have what's called ashra life expectancy, which is an industry standard for this kind of piece of equipment dies at this many years.
Hearing none. All members vote I. Chair. Recommendation is adopted. Same recommendations for committee on education pass with amendments for Senate bill 20 2391. Chair votes I vice chair votes I. Senator Fukunaga >> excuse senator Hashimoto. >> Hi. >> Senator Picort. >> Hi. >> Measures adopted. Madam chair. Thank you. >> And then our last item on our agenda is Senate Bill 3282. This is relating to workforce PEL grant program. Uh chair is going to recommend that we pass with amendments. We're going to adopt the AG's amendment in their testim in their testimony to include a statement that quote this bill is a is a law of statewide concern. End quote. And then we're also going to adopt the Office of Information Practices OIP amendment in their testimony under subsection D. Information produced pursuant to this section and designated as confidential shall be protected from public disclosure to the extent authorized by chapter 92F.
>> Yeah. So, so you're taking those three things and giving your opinion based on that. >> So, >> yeah, [clears throat] because on our end when they ask, >> hey, it looks sketchy. Everything >> it's ran fine. >> Yeah, everything's great. >> Don't touch it [laughter] >> and the next day it dies. >> Yeah. Don't look at it. >> So, I mean, >> it's a risk. Yeah, >> it is a risk. No matter how it looks. >> Yeah. when you get to the to the upper end of ashray life expectancy when you get to there it it's it's a gamble at that point and so you think if it's a whole chiller at a whole building you know you think of a of class or if you think I'm not going to take the risk >> if Annette has to sweat for a few days a year [laughter] maybe you want to take the risk right so >> just saying there's different ways to to address the risk what you're comfortable with riskwise as far as compared to getting the absolute maximum amount of life out of piece.
We're also going to do technical amendments and then also hearing from the testimony from DLIR director on page 12 starting with line three. The rulemaking authority will be to the department the department of labor and industrial relations. Uh and then we're also going to change the effective date to January 1st 2077. And if I didn't say that previously we're also going to make tech amendments. Okay. Any further discussion members? [snorts] Okay. If not for committee labor and technology vice chair lisaw for the vote. Chair votes I >> voting on SB 3282. Recommendation of the chair is to pass with amendments. Noting all members present. Anyone voting with reservations or no?