So, while Teddy McGawan goes back to the line, just another quick thank you to tonight's sponsor, Townhouse Pizza and Roast Beef. Appreciate them setting us up here, the the crew and the announcers with some food tonight. You can order online at townhouse pizzarossbeef.com or call in your order at 5088813010. Yeah, I had a the had a slice there in halftime and it was delicious. Just like the last uh every other time I've had their pizza. >> Consistently good. >> Very >> the Ashland [cheering] students coming alive for some defensive help on the free throws. >> Long pass there intercepted by the Wolverines. Samadini getting away with some very physical play here. Long crosscourt pass. Another one. Gansen looking for an opening to Leaniano Alejandro who we know loves to drive. And there he goes. No good. But rebound Wolverine still loose. No, no foul called.
So there there's legitimacy to everything you're saying. And I I really can tell this committee in absolute honesty, we are working on all of these things. and you're looking at how we can use um you know computer and digital and zoom and all of that because you know is if anytime it's now in which we're finding more and more people virtually working you know and so forth but if you can do that from home then why do you have to go travel to South Carolina or to you know China to to Z and there are some there are some you know very very worthy type of trips that you know it's good to take and we realize that because we do travel. But again, we got to keep in mind how we balance the taxpayers's dollars because they want to travel as well, right? So, yeah.
>> Okay. Okay. Excuse me, chair. I have to count you back in. Connor's back. >> Okay. Call the joint committee back to order for decision making. Starting out with Senate Bill 2138. Yes, you have the um lead on that one. National Guide tuition. >> Oh, okay. children for um Senate Bill 2138 relating to the uh National Guard tuition assistance program. This is really just adding the word graduates. So, the chair is recommending that we pass this measure in an unmended form. Uh I think it will expand greatly um the students at University of Hawaii who can take advantage of this. So, sounds like a good step forward.
Still loose. And finally a foul for the shot. They're going to get Kit Sandra for this one. >> Making him the eighth clocker to commit a foul tonight. >> Wolverines inbound all the way up top in the key for three. No good. Visas gets the rebound way up ahead to Igor. He fires his own three. Foul a little too hard off the back iron. Wolverines collect. Three and a half to go. They're going coast to coast right now. Another three ball attempt and this time it goes in for Lauriano Alejandro of the Wolverines and he is having himself a half. >> Crossy backs his defender down, loses control and Wolverines get the ball. No whistle here as Pendell goes behind the back. Anise tried to draw the charge but unsuccessful as he had established position but then leaned to be able to draw contact. >> 306 to go as that's Anisha's second foul.
So, I hope DOE shares your folks's attitude because certainly they did not express that during that hearing. So, >> any other questions? >> Okay. Thank you. You might want to sit there because the next item is off. >> We'll just stay. >> Okay. Senate Bill 2658. Um, also relating to the University of Hawaii, it requires the board of regions to expend funds appropriated to new, improve, or modernizing existing University of Hawaii facilities for only those purposes and not for current ongoing or anticipated capital improvement projects. And so, let's see. Same cast of characters, I assume. Um, well, actually, we have here um AG quick. Yeah, sorry. Technical amendment.
Any questions, concerns for uh PSM committee? Vice Chair Lee? >> Voting on Senate Bill 2138. The recommendations to pass un amended, noting excused absences of senators Hashimoto and Enoi. Are there any reservations or nos? Seeing none, the recommendations adopted. >> Same recommendations for committee on education to pass as is. Uh chair votes I. Chair votes I. Vice chair votes I. Senator >> I senator Hashimoto. >> Excuse Senator Deort. >> Hi. >> Measures adopted. >> Thank you. We're moving on to Senate Bill 2614. Recommendation on this to authorize Department of Education to award a high school diploma to qualified persons. Our recommendation is to pass as is.
>> Wolverines in the bonus now. students helping out again. >> Yeah, they're making their presence felt tonight. >> Looks like Luke Gres has checked in as well as Ben CJ for the Wolverines. [cheering and applause] >> Pendell silenced the student section by hitting the free throw. Under 3 minutes to go here. Clockers down 5539. Here's a steal by Laniano Alejandro. No whistle here as there was plenty of contact. Ball loose on the floor. Wolverines recover. >> Baseline back door pass. Rossy blocks the shot. Grabs the pass. Going to have a little conversation between the refs over who touched that ball last. And I think we just got a couple of T's. >> Little conversation there between the players. That's uh Cassandra for the Clockers and Laniano Alejandro for the Wolverines. >> Clockers will inbound. >> Going to get a slight delay here while the scoring table gets clarification on what exactly was called there.
>> Good afternoon everyone. Deputy Attorney General Candace Park. The Department of Police Attorney General recommends indicating that the bill is a law of statewide concern. Thank you. >> Got it. Thank you. Appreciate that. And then we have uh let's see Jan Goa signed up. So that is you. >> Sure. >> You don't look like Jan Goa, but >> vice president of the university.
Any discussion? Hearing none. Chair votes. >> Chair vzai vice chair vzai. Senator Fukunaga >> I. >> Senator Dort >> I. >> Senator Hashimoto excuse me it's adopted >> on Senate Bill. Hold on one second for PSM committee. >> Same recommendation passing un amended for the vote. Vice chair Lee >> voting on Senate Bill 2614. Recommendations to pass un amended. Noting excused absences of senators Hashimoto and are there any reservations or nos? Seeing none the recommendations adopted. >> Okay. Such an e eager beaver here. Senate bill 2687. This is requires department of education to develop and implement the 100th infantry battalion curricular plan. Um members, the recommendation um you know I I believe that this is really important for our students uh to to be well-versed and and understand what happened uh and to have heroes in their life as well. I think that it's not just the 100 infantry but any any of the wars that involved Hawaii and Hawaii residents I think is important.
So, >> Alejandro heads to the bench. I don't know if that's he's been removed from the game by his coach or by the referees, but he is headed to the bench. [cheering] Kassandra still in Anish with the ball. 240 and counting. Kassandre drives baseline, pulls up and fires. Front iron, no good. Ball loose and out of bounds. It'll stay clocker away. I thought when they had technicals, they both had to sit out. >> Again, I'm just not really clear on what exactly was called there. I saw I saw, you know, ref point at both players, but I never actually saw the T hand gesture. There's a three ball attempt and [cheering] nothing but the bottom of the net. Anish hits the three, his second of the night. And Ashlin coach Mike Tormund calls timeout. >> Wants to keep it close. He understands that the first quarter does not matter tonight.
We will stand in our testimony in opposition here to answer any questions. >> Okay. Well, why don't you come forward? Anyone else wishing to testify on this measure? Um Okay. So, you want to um I know we have your testimony here. >> Did you want to elaborate at all? >> Yeah. So I think as the way that the bill is written and I think I I do understand the need in order to g to gain a little bit more clarity around uh the rim funding because the rim funding is a lump sum budget that the university gets. But if you look at the way that the bill is written and how you cannot use it for for new capital improvement projects that essentially is what RIM is because RIM is kind of an ongoing uh you know expenditure of like deferred maintenance of new projects as they come on board.
uh also recognize we recognize as chair that um it's the board of education that um mandates the number of hours and so forth that would you be required as far as um teaching and so I will defer to Senator Fukunaga whose bill it is as for recommendation for the amendments. >> Okay. for um Senate Bill 2687. I believe the goal is to have Department of Education report back on exactly how it is implementing a lot of the uh stories and the experiences both from the 100th battalion as well as many of the other veterans. And so the recommendation is to incorporate section two up through page pages two and three and end on page three which talks about uh establishing some form of history curricula. We would look to amend the bill with u references to a broader scale and ask the department of education to report back to the legislature on ways that it is implementing its social studies curricula in a manner that does in fact demonstrate you know uh active learning and use of these curricula.
[laughter] >> Give the clockers credit. I mean, this was looking like it was going to it might get into a blowout here in the fourth quarter, but they're hanging tough. No loss of energy from that team. >> That's and that's good to see, you know, when you have a, you know, a season that didn't go your way. Um, to still finish in the last game, you know, for all the seniors, for all the senior parents, to be able to see be out here, watch your your son for the last time. Mhm. >> I remember that's really tough. That's one of the things I miss, you know, the most is watching my my sons play sports. Um, >> you know, this is a meaningful night. So, going out with max effort, even if it might end up at being a loss. Um, unless you don't count the first quarter, um, you know, it still it still means something.
I think if the intention really is to to say that you cannot use rim funding for specifically appropriated CIP, I don't know if that's what this bill actually does. >> So, are you advocating for that instead? >> I think that that would be a discussion that we should have. I I mean I I don't want to speak for the vice president of administration, but as it stands right now, I mean, our rim funding and we are trying to get a much a much better hold on the way that we actually allocate funds towards capital expenditures. I think one of the things that we deal with and and this is not a this is not a problem unique to the university senator is that we have and we get appropriations for CIP projects and and often times those are based upon a conceptual spec of what they think the project would be.
And we would retain uh the pilot program at the end of the bill to serve as one model that the department of education and groups like the 100th battalion center can work together on. And then the legislature will then have a report from the department as well as the efforts in this pilot project to make a determination next year as to how we might want to strengthen the DOE curriculum and also make available uh new sort of tools and resources that could help uh enliven a lot of the important Hawaii history that we want to capture. Just wanted to add that we wanted to make sure that it's not just school by school, but that it's completely across the state that this curriculum you folks would be looking at implementing and hopefully that if you folks really are serious about it, maybe we won't need a bill because then you'll come up with a plan in which you folks can incorporate.
So, I love seeing when my son could play and he was, you know, both my sons when they're out there putting in max effort. >> That was my the thing I was always the most proud of. I'm sure these parents feel the same way. >> Absolutely. >> They're only graduating three seniors, so when you look, you know, this is a team that could have a lot of lot of talent for next year. >> Clockers unveiled their fullcourt press. The Wolverines having a little trouble getting it out. And there is a turnover by Igor. Breaks through a double team trying to just get a handle on the ball. Looking for some help. Over to Cassandra. 212 on the clock. Cassandra starts to drive, gets stripped >> and the Wolverines end up with it. >> Had a man open on the low post. Didn't see him. >> Yeah, they're going to they're going to go to slow it all down.
I think it's imperative upon us that if there are going to be cost overruns, if there are going to be uh these types of increases and expenditures for projects going forward that we inform the legislature and we ask for that money going forward. So the utilization of rim and in order to accommodate our what it should be used for which is to accommodate our our extreme backlog in deferred maintenance is is something that we need to go back and basically get a better hold on the way that we're spending money on our deferred maintenance requirements. So that's where I think you know I the way the bill is currently written basically doesn't doesn't address that in in many ways it might render RIM unusable because it is a lump sum appropriation for for new diver >> right and I think you know it's always my goal that the entities or the departments manage themselves and when they fail to manage themselves in areas then we end up sending these kinds of bills and it may have unintended consequences which is why we have these hearings to fix that.
Right. Any questions members? Any discussion? Um hearing none. Recommendation is to amend to an SD1. Chair votes I for Senate bill 2687 to pass with amendments. Chair votes I. Vice chair votes I. Senator Heni. >> Senator Hashimotoki. Senator Deport. >> Hi. >> Adopted for PSM committee. Same recommendation passing with amendments. Vice chair Lee. >> Voting on Senate Bill 2687. The recommendation is to pass with amendments. Noting excused absences of senators Hashimoto and No. Are there any reservations or nos? Seeing none, the recommendations adopted. >> Okay. Thanks me and this judge is the chair. Thank you.
>> Igor trying to foul him on purpose. That's what it looked like there. Throwing up a wild shot. Wolverine somehow come down with it. And it's a jump. [cheering] Arrow favors the Wolverines. 149 to go here. Clockers down 5542. [clears throat and snorts] Now it's the Wolverines head coach having his turn with some anger at the refs. Three ball attempt for the Wolverines. [cheering] And Zaneski nails [applause] it. His first bucket of the night. Three-pointer puts them up 5842 with 138 in counting. >> Igor with a deep three. Bosses tries to keep it alive but unsuccessful. It will be Wolverine ball under their own basket with 132 to go. >> Good defensive play there by Igor to keep that away from a Wolverine player. They'll try and inbound again from the opposite side of their basket. >> And I know both coaches are, you know, being a little vocal here with the the the referees, but uh honestly they haven't been like very tic-tacy [screaming] too much, you know.
But you know, you come in specifically for CIP and you tell us the project, you tell us the cost and we give you folks that money. Then you come in and we have repair and maintenance or rim monies for improvements and you want a lump sum budget or you know in the past we didn't give lumpsum lumpsum because you want some flexibility. We gave you that. So you know now you want to say well you know we should be able to use that in. No, that's not the intent, but that's how you folks have been using it. >> And we want to be clear. I think our intention is to follow the in the legislative intent. It always will be to follow legislative intent. So, I think if the legislature, you know, would want us to be a lot more, you know, again, accountable. Well, shouldn't you folks I mean isn't that >> should be common sense in the sense that to be accountable if you come in and ask us for Sinclair and you give us a amount of money and we give you that money now you're over you cannot just go run and go take it from from rim because we have so many projects you have all these housing projects students housing that needs repair and maintenance you have deferred maintenance and yet you're using it to over cost overruns >> cost overruns of these projects instead of holding that entity accountable for those cost overruns.