Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Keith Hayashi, Department of Education. >> Aloha, chair, vice chair, members. Jesse Suki, Deputy Superintendent of Operations for the Department of Education. The department stands on its written testimony which provides comments on the measure. But in summary, um the Department of Education supports the goals of the bill regarding improved CIP transparency and technical staffing, but requests flexibility to align reporting requirements with existing data systems. uh clarifying that attached agencies are excluded because they report differently and consideration uh regarding potential pay disparities created by the pilot program for exempt positions um allowing the adjustment of other salaries for equity. >> Thank you. Johnny May Perry in support opposing for HGA. Anyone else here wishing to testify on this measure? If not, um questions members? Jesse question? Have you folks compiled the CIP as we asked >> the request from your office?
>> Thanks for having us tonight. This has been very educational. I'm learning a lot. >> Probably more than you care. >> Yeah. So, we're just really excited to to be back with the center group community and students and families um and educators and really excited for this partnership and collaboration. >> Thank you. >> Awesome. So, if you look on the next slide, it just talks about our transition plan. So, in the world of mental health, um I know Jane, you were speaking a little bit to your world. We have to look at credentiing and getting um our clinicians hired and credentialed. And so how they're credentialed under community health is how is different than how they would be panled under adult and child. So that takes time and so we have come up with a transition of how we would go about supporting that so our students and families do not go out without services um and that we can be up and running for next school year.
>> So now what would the process be like? Would it be like would we put out a like an RFP for uh for council or is it because I this wouldn't be this would be just a one-off >> it it would >> and so is it >> in the past but and if I can go here when I was a member of the board we did this once before when we were doing serious apartments >> um uh we took a vote to hire an outside firm and and we picked that firm and contracted it through Michael's office. >> Okay. >> But um that's something that you would have to decide on me. >> Okay. And that would be more that would be an hourly rate. There wouldn't be a retainer involved. It would be comparable cost to what we're what we would be paying for for our current council.
Um and then the new the use of the new form. >> I actually have a question about that. So I know when we were talking um about the Dina student specifically um there is a pretty significant number of you know reported incidents to you. So >> I just wonder is reporting being done differently. Um are you looking at different behaviors or behaviors just escalating? >> What >> I mean I was just shocked when it was like 500 and something referrals so far. You know what I mean? So is that typical? I think that was at the end of last year up to this point. I think it was 200 something. Maybe I said it the wrong way. >> Okay. Cuz I heard five something and I was like >> that was from the year before total I think that we had. >> Okay. >> So, but no, that's a good point though.
And we're trying to manage the day-to-day and we have somebody coming onto campus that shouldn't be on campus. Perhaps they have a stayaway order or whatnot from a staff member or a student. We want to, you know, use everything that we can to make uh that situation as safe as possible. Um and then finally, there's the who took my stuff quality of life crimes. Again, sometimes kids don't know where they left their backpack that now doesn't have their cell phone. And so, again, using the technology to be able to track the student, find out where their backpack was, and then identify who maybe went rummaging through it. It's a big help to to keeping the quality of life uh in incidents to to a minimum and being able to get some speedy resolution to again safety and efficiency. So that is kind of the summary of of how I feel like it appeals to to me the the as a as a site administrator.
>> Yes, >> we we did submit um a compilation um based on the um template that was sent to us from your office based on what WHAM committee had requested and subsequently um you you let me know in a hearing that that wasn't what you asked. >> You said you were going to get me and you didn't get it. So, we working back and forth with your office to get to a a template that is acceptable. >> Jesse, we sent you the exact template that you guys sent us in 2023. No deviations, no nothing. We have we gave it to you guys. I don't know how come you can't just follow that. >> We So, we followed the template that was sent to us from a request from um Wham that was um not the one that you had requested. So we sent you a copy of the 2023 submitt that was I don't know 50 pages.
So wanted to provide that transition timeline for you all. Um and then ask for you tonight to approve that they are our next school-based partners as we move forward um to serve serving our families. And then I would bring theou and contract back up once um we have all the things signed and dotted. >> So just to be clear, this doesn't displace any of our counselors or anything like that. >> It does not displace any of our school employees. So we currently have seven therapists and four skills um people that work for community health who are all given the opportunity to apply and interview to work with adult and child. Um they're not school employees, but we love them dearly and we've appreciated the work and we're hopeful that transition will be smooth for our families and our students.
>> I I think it would depend on kind of like what our choices are. >> Okay. And um you know what I would recommend is um you know authorizing it if you feel comfortable with it with like a a cap on the fees. And so when the con if they get to that point coming back to the select board and asking you know maybe to extend that cap that makes sense. >> Does that make sense from a from their perspect's perspective? Do you remember how we we did the building last time? I I don't remember, but there was it was quite some time ago. >> Yeah. You know, I I want to say it was like 5,000 at the time. >> See, at that time, they were kind of co-consel. They weren't replacing our council. They just had an area of expertise that we thought was more specific than our council was used to dealing with.
I think at this point we're still at like two something and one of the areas in the summary uh for the school climate we talked about is many of those are happening in the classroom. And again, that's not always the case. A lot of it is on un many many times it's unstructured time more like um we happen to notice that this one's a lot more in the classroom. So one of the things we were supposed to have our PD in February that got snowed out um our BCBA is going I think I even put that in here um was going to do a professional development with our staff on the four functions of behaviors and why people behave the way they behave and how to handle those type of situations. Obviously, they're doing that with certain students that are already on the radar, if you want to say, but it's also helping our staff understand, you know, or or help them with different strategies because kids are different, you know, uh, you know, from one, it depends on the type of kid.
So the with this new system what we're hoping to do is be able to give new tools to our principles and our system principles that lit them to be able to allow them to be able to speed up the process of what they do right now. So, right now, we've had this system now, the old system for 12 years. It's very old and clunky. They have to go in and manually scan through all the footage to try to find things. It's very, very slow, and time goes by, valuable time goes by. So, that's one of the greatest things about this system is it allows our our staff to do the same things they do today, but much more quickly. Um, I do have some final things here I want to mention before um we close this up and open it up to questions. Um, so many of our older cameras out now right now are out of warranty.
I don't know how many page we sent you copies of that >> and we said this is what we want and we never got anything like that. You had different kinds. You had different but >> yeah we so yeah we did submit something um and we're working with your office on making some adjustments to that so we get it in a way that's acceptable. >> Okay questions members? Senator Ashimi, >> deputy, I so I I think, you know, I'm looking at your testimony regarding the pilot program for hiring um you know, exam positions. You know, I I guess this is our attempt at trying to figure out what can we do to make, you know, the some of the problems in the facilities branch kind of get figured out. And so, you know, I know it's not perfect, but I think part of it is what we need from you is what exactly do you need to make something like this work?
>> Any questions? >> Any other questions? >> Do we do we anticipate any of the other services community is providing? >> We have a meeting. Go ahead. >> Got it. >> We have a meeting coming up in the next few weeks and we'll have more information to share at that time. Okay. >> Any other questions? >> Thank you. That's an action item. >> Uh yeah. >> Do I have a motion, please? >> Mr. President, I move that we approve the schoolbased mental health service proposal. >> Thank you, Mrs. K. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Mrs. Duncan Smith. >> All those in favor say I. >> I. All those opposed? Motion passes 5-0. Thank you. If you look on the back of your agenda is our upcoming uh events. March 19th will be executive session uh 6 pm and March 19th will be the regular next board meeting.
>> Yeah. And I think like our town council would still be apprised of it, but they just, you know, from like a a council perspective, >> but um yeah, I mean I I I think you would have >> I think we would be fine with that, Michael, with a cap and and if for some reason we ran into trouble and we need to amend that. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Do we have a sense of what the cap might be? I mean, how many hours would you anticipate, Carl? Like >> I I don't know. You know, it's it's we figured that we would get um um approval of the board before we got too far out over our skis as far as that goes. I mean, I have had discussions about rates and things like that, but they're just generally speaking. And as I say, the commission really hasn't spoken about uh in what manner we would use council.
And there's still things today, I've been here doing this for 30 years, there's still kids today, I'm like, I can't believe I just I'm having this conversation right now. So, we don't have all the answers. You know, what worked for you may not work for Robbie. We we don't know. So that's also our mental health staff and um our BCBA who's again specific to students but she was going to do this professional dem for all staff strategy. >> Thank you. I just it was just something that >> Good question. >> Our bus numbers have been down though >> which is our bus referrals have been down >> and we joke because we did meet with the bus drivers at the beginning of this year >> and we did say you know like listen if if we were I'm laughing because we did actually have this conversation.
Uh, this project will replace all of our current cameras with new 4K cameras. Uh, the old system lasted us for 12 years. It's now antiquated and slow and difficult to work with. Like I mentioned, anyone who's worked with Milestone, our system knows how that feels. It's just very it's just not very intuitive and it just takes time. It's also limited because um the current system you can only run it on certain machines. Um it's very resource hungry and so we've had to put we put office computers in our principal's offices with video cards in them. Um special machines that allow them to run this program smoothly. The one that we have right now um it's it's very clunky if you don't have a good quality machine. The new system is not that way. The new one is all web- based so it's very very fast.
I think there's some semblance that, you know, there's some changes that you folks want, but are we like what we really need to understand is it would you do this number one if we give this to you? If this is not the solution, then what is it that you guys need to fix facilities? So we we support um the concept there and when I say the concept I mean providing increased uh the ability to provide increased salary for um engineers and architects and folks working on um these delivery of u CIP would be very helpful because we're competing with the open market and salaries are high. Um we were just asking that you allow us to uh have par with other positions that are existing. Um, I haven't read um the union's testimony, but I'm sure that that might be part of it, the parody part.
>> Any other questions or any other things? >> Anything to add to tonight, Mr. D? >> Nothing else to add, but thank you. Okay. Well, >> ah, come on. You got >> I can't think of anything else. >> Mrs. Counts. >> Nothing. >> Mr. Armstrong. >> Nothing. >> There's a joke behind that. >> Nothing this evening, sir. >> Okay. Thank you. With that, we are adjourned. Thank you all. >> I feel better. We need an exterminator.
I'm and I'm I'm speaking for myself now. I imagine that we would probably not have them attend the early meetings while we um while we figured out how things were going. >> Yeah. >> And if and and maybe have them watch the hearings uh that were recorded uh to comment on um on things that were good and things that they thought could improve. >> Yeah. >> Or or or avenues that we might be able to take. And that would certainly save on the budget end of things. Um, >> so I mean, were we looking at $5,000, $10,000? I mean, this is this too is money that would have been spent if we were even using our own counsel. That's true. Right. So, it's not >> So, what where would we be on this 5 10? What do you think? >> You know, I I think initially like eight I mean because there is going to have to be some frontend like catchup work, >> you know.
He said, "If there's a student and they're fooling around and you ask them to stop or whatever it may be, obviously it's a safe thing. If you need to pull over and say if I need to make have another conversation with you, we're going to call the school." I said, "You could throw my name around, Mr. Napoli or Mr. We're going to stop and and if we" and we told kids, if we have to drive to that bus to get you off that bus and your parent meet us there to pick you up, they're not going to be happy. And whether that really did or not, I'm not sure. But it was good I think for the bus drivers to be able like all of us as teachers we want to hear that you know the administrators have your back type thing and the bus drivers I think felt a little bit more confident to be sit listen you tell them sit down means sit down you need to sit down because your job is to make sure it's a safe ride home not easy we all know that so but that was one area family community engagement again uh just it's the same things I just talked about before with different uh involvement areas that we could have uh involvement from the parents the uh workshop and then also just making sure we're communicating whether it's through our newsletters parent square and or I didn't put any power school you know um with the parents data collection last analysis is really just any of the things I just been talking about our school climate surveys which we're going to be doing similar to what Mark was talking about um next week the dis discip disc discipline behavior things that I spoke about and just anything for um our last uh meeting we had talked about students with D's and Fs but then also with attendance issues are they correlating you know is it is it certain students that that are struggling um and some that do correlate that have a correlation the kids that aren't here are are not doing well but then there are ones that it didn't correlate so what we're doing is we did was we go in and we see does that student whether it's attendance and or D's and have some type of before.
You can actually do it on your phone. Uh, so a principal could have it on their phone as they're walking to an event to an and something that's happening and know what's going on. They can see it on their phone as they walk up and they're not walking up blind or they don't have to go back to their office to view it there beforehand. So, it opens up that whole whole new door for them to be able to come into a situation with knowledge of what's going on and not have to worry about that. So, the new system is a 10-year all-inclusive warranty and subscription. So, the cameras themselves have a 10-year hardware warranty. It has a full 10-year subscription. The cost is already baked in, so we don't have to pay anything. It's all inclusive. No additional fees. Um, all future feature updates over the next 10 years are included as well.