>> Yeah. So, we'll I'll send out like a a reminder and a and a message. I don't I don't remember exactly who's doing the office hours for the next I think Joe is I think I saw Joe's name on there. >> Okay. >> How far are we scheduled out for office hours right now? >> Um I think it is so March, April. I think it's through April. >> Okay. >> And I think we had planned on the same cadence if we want to change that. If you think that Wednesday afternoons are still good, if you think that we want to try a different day of the week or >> um >> or other locations maybe >> Dolce Dolce is the the good thing about Dolce is that there's like space and it's easy. I mean, not easy easy. It's >> you still have to park and walk, but it's not that it's not really that.
Um, they've assured us it's not able to be hacked, but they have been. Um, they gave a list of safeguards. Sounds great. Those safeguards are there because the Department of Justice and the FTC went after them, not because they put those into effect on their own. Facial recognition has verified and documented racial bias. Women are more likely to have false identification. People of African descent, people of Asian descent. It might not affect your children, but it will affect mine. I want to add one more thing. I love the Chico school system. You guys do a great job. The teachers are amazing. They teach things like 1984. They tell our kids about Big Brother. They tell our kids it's wrong, but they don't practice it. You're not practicing that. Practice what you preach and protect our kids. Thank you. So, normally we limit public discussion to 30 minutes, which is 10 speakers at 3 minutes each.
>> The act was passed in 2020. >> 2020. Okay. 2020. Okay. So you're saying that >> we are trying to get back to >> So when So when did when did the legislature move take it away from DAGs and give it to DOE? I believe was it was during act 51. >> Okay. Dur what was the date of that? >> Um I I don't know the exact date but I believe it's around uh 2004 with act 51 if I'm not mistaken. >> Okay. So 2004 I believe. >> So you says everything were going well but then why did the legislature and I wasn't part of that. I mean I was at the legislature but I don't recall why SFA. I wasn't on education committees. Why SFA was created? My understanding is FSA was created because DOE was not doing a good job. DOE was not handling it >> and and during that in early early years um when it was successful um that I believe it was that's my personal opinion.
>> They also have extended hours, too. So, you know, they're open late afternoon. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Which is good. >> I mean, maybe I might do a if somebody was interested in a in a bagel table like 11 to one or something and try to catch people who are coming in for lunch if anybody has availability for that. >> Yeah, maybe could depending on the day. >> Yeah. >> Might be able to sneak out for that. >> Yeah. I mean, I would almost say like if it's the bagel table because certain days of the week are really like I had had a conversation with Ed and some some days are just really dead there during the week. But maybe >> so we should do it on those days. >> Yeah, because maybe it'll bring somebody in. >> Bring people in. Yeah, >> you could do that.
Uh, the board can always choose to offer more time if they'd like to do so. That requires a vote to amend our procedures. There's a question about whether we need to vote to suspend the rules to allow more speakers than we normally do. >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Um, sir, >> I didn't I don't know if I counted. >> Uh, good evening everybody. Uh, thanks for staying late. Really appreciate you all. Um, and you know, really impressed to see everybody come out. Uh, it's been been pretty awesome. Um, just a couple of thoughts. I mean, everybody's pretty much covered everything, but I, you know, listening to everybody, I I I couldn't help but but think about a couple of things in response to the the statements. Um, and, uh, there's a lot of interesting stuff about all of these added safety uh, you know, abilities, um, that we have.
I was an era superintendent with at that time superintendent Hamamoto and we were turnurning out the work but during that period and more recently um prior to co uh um things had changed within the department and I'm I I cannot speak to that cuz I wasn't I wasn't um here and I was at that time but so what we're trying to do now is to get back to a rhythm um that, but it's actually it's changing processes that have been put in place that were put in place. It's changing priorities. It's changing how we're requesting funds. And that's why we're appreciative to the legislature for allocating the um uh the lump sums to us because it allows the department now to really take a look take a look at prioritizing based on different kinds of needs for all of our schools throughout the state. >> But you're looking at a different time.
Or I was going to say like, you know, plan for like a Friday or something when more people might be um >> Yeah. >> around or something. >> So if if you guys >> not not that we're a huge draw, but if it would help for us to come in >> the celebrities, >> the celebrity select board members, >> whatever would work uh for bagel table. But I like the idea of like kind of looking at a couple different locations, too. But I like Dolce a lot as well. So >> yeah, it is nice. >> So do you guys like do we want to what do we want to plan for March? Because we'll we'll ask Clara, our communications person, to put together another flyer for um for March because we had both dates listed on there, which I think was good. >> Yeah. >> So that would be March 4th would be the next Wednesday.
and and it strikes me that a lot of this this stuff the the slip and falls and the fighting and all of this stuff um that seems to be inherently generated upon AI and predictive software. So if we get this and we remove you know we untoggle the option does that not you know eliminate a lot of the effectiveness of of some of these bells and whistles. Um, and to the the second point on that, um, you know, it says it was encrypted end to end, and that sounds really great, but the massive data breach wasn't, uh, you know, a a hack from, uh, you know, from the ether. It was an administrative password and username that was obtained. Uh, you know, that's human error. And the more times you allow for human error in a system, the more opportunities that there are for bad actors to take advantage of that, no matter how, you know, careful you can be, this is still adding a lot of liability and a lot of uh you know, uh uh problems uh to to the scenario.
So if you want to go back to what it was, it's not going to be the way it was because we're in a different situation. We have different leadership. And I think that's the key problem. We're having issues with getting information and getting things done. So you know, you folks were given the 12 schools or whatever. We built only two over the years. I mean, look how long look how long this Maui school has been there. That Maui school had we were it was advised that not get built there, but it did. But be as it may, I mean, we still don't have the overpass that was promised it was going to be completed in 2025. The building, the cost, everything. And that's all in this recent times. So, you cannot say that, you know, how long is it going to take? Another decade before you get back to speed.
>> March 4th is the next Wednesday. So, so it would be March 7th would be the >> Saturday >> the Saturday for the book sale and then we would look for to do something the week of the 15th. >> Oh, got it. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that makes sense. Um, >> so the week of the 15th is that um No, no, I'm way ahead of myself. >> That's St. Patrick's Day. Uh on Tuesday. >> 17th is St. Patrick's Day. >> Excellent. >> The um No, that's okay. But we might not get a Well, I don't know. We might get people in St. Patrick. That's a Tuesday, though. Um that Wednesday the 18th or that that Friday the 20th. Um >> Friday Friday like 11 to 1 would be able to take some time out. It' be easier for me to find that.
Um, and then, you know, no one's mentioned what, you know, they talked about it came down to to this system and then another system, and no one's in this 1.9 million, we're going to save a lot of money, and that's great, but nobody said what the second runner up is. I mean, could we get a system that's basically just as good without, you know, all of this uh potential for nefarious actions for 2.5 million? Because that seems like that's a pretty good deal. Um and and the fact that we don't hear more about these other options and instead uh you know we've got these two AI ghouls from Silicon Valley out here, you know, pushing their stuff, you know, strikes me as, um as as uh not enough information to make a decision as serious about this. So, uh thank you very much for your time.
>> And and the great separated pedestrian overpass was something that we had worked with the um the Maui land use commission on. uh we are that um is an e extremely uh costly item but we are working uh to see what the next steps are in in addressing that >> but again the planning that went into this school did not anticipate these things did not anticipate you knew the rock was hard you knew that was going to cost more >> I I didn't know that senator respectfully because I I wasn't on the job yet but I know I accept the responsibility now from here moving forward I talked with the decision was made with the chair of the education DBOE at the time Don her and he he said that the rock is hard that it was going to cost a lot to do. So it was not as if it was a known it was known.
But that's not going to work for you. >> I can't do Friday. >> Okay. So the 18th >> you want to try to do that? >> Yeah. Uh what time do you want to do? >> Do you want to try to do 11 to one or 12 to two or 10 to 12 or >> any of those work for you? >> If it's a Wednesday like that 3 to 5 slot is probably going to be the best for me. >> We could leave it. >> I could definitely take some time then. But >> yeah, let me just also look to see who signed up for that and what the uh hold on. Sorry, I'm just I'm a sign up genius. One second. >> Yeah, I know. I didn't sign up for anything in March. >> I don't think I did either. >> I just I don't think I did either.
Really appreciate it. >> Yeah. Hi, I've been here before uh early over there. Um if you don't know me, my name is Tanner Johns. I am a teacher for Chico Unified School District and a parent of two kids at Rosedale Elementary School in fourth grade and first grade. Um I want to echo what others have already said. It is hard to restate in better ways um what has been said before, but I cannot say clearly enough that AI facial recognition software has no business on our campuses whatsoever. They sell us a cloud service to store our data and I don't care how robust the system is and the security measures in place which we have already called into question. Those systems can be hacked. I promise you. A system that keeps our information on a closed system intranet should be explored. Systems that are closed to a campus are much more difficult.
So again whether you were here or not you're taking credit from Hamamoto and her time you have to take credit for respectively. I'm not taking credit for I'm just sharing that during that period. So the department was successful. >> Okay. So you are you are quoting that but again you have to also look at the the unsuccessfulness of the of the period as well >> and and and during that period when um uh appropriations were made to build Kulani Hakoy uh that was prior to when when I stepped into >> but you have it you've had it now for the >> Yes. and and we've built um in the Kulani school uh I believe there we have two classrooms built two classroom buildings the administration building um I believe we're >> yeah at the tune of $230,000 plus more or million I'm sorry not thousand millions dollars and going to cost even more and you don't have an overpass so they don't want the the kids got to get dropped off the kids can't walk to the school I mean it's it's crazy >> well we are definitely working to address that issue Okay.
>> Yeah, sorry. >> So, >> I think I think the library is Joe and Makita. >> Oh, did I sign up? Yeah, I did. That's right. >> Um and no one has signed up for the select board hours at Dolce. So, it's it's free game. I'm happy to make an a repeat appearance on the 18th, but if somebody else wants to do the 18th is, you know, >> I have I have issues trying to get like I'm in the city. >> Yeah, I guess. Yeah. >> Um but I could do I could potentially do a Friday if we wanted to change that to Friday >> or Yolanda, you want to do Wednesday afternoon with me? >> I can't that week. Those two weeks I'm performing and >> Okay. still trying to work and >> Yeah. >> So, >> yeah, I get it. I can't >> I get it.
They're not traveling between servers into the cloud and other things. We need to explore options like this. I have firsthand, as a teacher, seen Mr. McKay effectively use our current camera systems to find and identify students. Does it maybe take a little more leg work than an AI system would do? Yes. Has it been effective? I think so. I also want to call into the question the use of um the cost. Somebody else mentioned it earlier. Our facilities funds are being used for these but our facilities are crumbling. You hear that? Have you been on my site? Because for years I have had uh painters tape X's on the floor for when it rains. I'm a band teacher with thousands of dollars of instruments in my classroom. And I'm tired of putting buckets on the floor. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of my kids going to Rosedale and holding their bathroom break to get home because the toilets are always leaking and unavailable.
I would hope that you folks will start to take off the rosecolored glasses and look at the situation and what help is needed instead of just saying that you guys can do it because obviously things have to change and there's need to be some help somewhere along the line instead of trying to do the same thing over and over again which is insanity. >> And and Senator just to be clear too for me um I I'm not really looking through rosecolored glasses. I definitely know that there are areas that we need to improve in. We're working on that. Um and we we appreciate the legislature support in in helping us to move in that direction. But we we're definitely committed both in CIP and in deferred maintenance um as we as we shift into this into this process uh to be able to address the needs of our schools that in our school facilities.
>> Um, if you shift, you can't do Friday that of that week, right, Claudia? >> Yeah. I mean, would would folks look at maybe the following week so that maybe schedules would would jive like Claudia and uh >> so Fridays I I have my younger grandson. >> Uh so I mean I could bring him and have lunch with him at table, but I'm not sure very productive, you know. >> You maybe you guys could look at the um what what maybe St. Patrick's Day. I don't know the Tuesday uh the 17th or the following Tuesday the 24th or that Thursday those Thursdays the 19th and the 26th. >> Yeah. Plus with when I'm going to be out in April, I can't take more time during the day, >> right? >> In March, unfortunately. How about How about we try we try a Friday and I'm happy to to plan for a Friday like Friday the 20th.
There are four toilets for the girls to use on that campus and two of them half the time don't work. I'm tired of it. We can do better. I want better for my kids. I want classrooms that are designed to reflect the future that I want my educ the education that I want my kids to have to be prepared for the future and we don't have it. Surveillance systems, cameras can be a useful tool in identifying students, but when you add in AI facial recognition software in any part, and I'm sorry, he says, well, it it does data points, but it doesn't mark a person. What are we talking about? If you're marking data points, it's inevitably connecting to something to a person. Data points are being made out of our kids and our facilities are crumbling and we need to do better. Hi, I'm Caitlyn Sheridan.