>> That's correct. >> Is there a breakdown on what services those 600 school district you know are most of them not using AIA or >> a lot of them are using a lot of stuff and I would encourage you to reach out to them directly because some of them make it public some of them do not. It's based on their community and their policies and I'll just have everyone reach out. But great question. >> We're we're not the first to do this. >> So you said you focus on Northern California. Are there other are there other districts or entities in our area that are using Vicata? >> Yes. >> Um can you tell us whom? >> Yes, I can. >> Would you? >> No, not right now. >> Oh. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. I that >> I want to make sure I give the correct statement because again for privacy of our customers.
So they understand at least how to report some of these projects and getting updates on projects. So at least that's a step in the right direction. But then I think the system really needs to be figured out on on where we're going to go. Looking at what is the quickest method, who is the best entity to do this, right? I think what bothered me is right in the the other bill essentially it was kind of saying that the it's not only organizational structure, it's it's the funding. But I get it. It's like if you but if you're not going to look at deeply about the organizational structure, right, the the funding is not going to help you because we've already given you the funding and obviously there's a lot of projects that we can't just get done. So hopefully you kind of take this the takeaway is we got to focus we got to focus on this kind of thing and I know you're you're supportive of this kind of legis this this particular piece of legislation, but I think it's it's I think this the chair has strategically placed all the facilities bills all in in order.
Some do not like to disclose and some do. >> We have a full customer story reference on our page. I can name a hundred off of my head, >> but I want to respect our customers and their privacy. >> Um >> I hope that comes off okay. >> That's okay. Well, so I so I >> That's okay. Thank you. Um Mr. Blake you said that uh Thermalo school district where you used to be superintendent is using ricotta. Do you have any feedback from Thermalo for example? >> I can tell you that we don't have anything. I mean if I would if we asked anybody from thermal well if we asked the superintendent and the maintenance director of maintenance and operation and transportation as I have recently they have no complaints at all about picata >> mountain view lotos is a publicly traded or public customer that is willing to talk to anyone >> Santa Clair unified Palo Alto unified >> Cordova >> I believe John you mentioned that BCOE uses the the is that am I misremembering?
Um but I but I hope you you understand where we're trying to go with all this. So thank you chair. >> I do and I agree. Thank you Senator. >> Any other questions? >> Thank you. >> We are moving on to 2605. This is requires department of education to make available all public school outdoor facilities grounds on Saturdays and Sundays for public and community use without the need for any license permit or deposit fees under certain conditions. Uh please AG. >> Good afternoon chair members and Horuchi from the AG's um office. Quick note um on the first page of our testimony there's a typo. The second line from the bottom um we quoted test um language from the bill. It's actually on page four lines one through two not page one. Um but as noted in our testimony, we suggested some in some areas that um one there be a clarification of terms.
>> That is correct. Yes, BCOE does and actually was a a presentation that BCOA gave showing how well it works. That was our introduction to the software. >> Do you know in what capacity? So BCOE um has sites literally around the state like they they have teachers that are down in San Diego. I mean everywhere. So in what way I guess is BCOE using Vicata? Do you know? I'm just curious. >> I would just be taking a just in talking to them it's it's limited. They um they're migrating away from a vigilon which is the other system that we looked at as well. Migrating away from a vigilon to verata. So it's a it's a migration for them. I'm not sure to what extent right now. >> Okay. Um do you have a general impression? But but since since they were the ones that were hosting the presentation, would your general impression what would your u general impression be from BCOE?
What is exactly meant to be um outdoor facilities and grounds? Also, is this meant to apply to um charter school outdoor facilities and grounds in addition to department schools? Um the term make available does that mean just physical accessibility or does it also impose on um the DOE any obligation to ensure safety or security of users? Um with regard to assumption of risk, we've suggested some language to amend HRS um 302A-1148.5 um to address the liability concerns. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Nahilani Parsons on Zoom. >> Not on Zoom. Chair. >> Okay. Uh, Department of Education. >> Aloha. Chair, uh, vice chair, members of the committee, Jesse Suki, Deputy Superintendent of Operations. Um, we rise in opposition uh to this measure. Um, essentially unrestricted unrestricted weakened public access to school facilities would um compromise student safety, risk costly damage to specialized infrastructure like artificial turf, and effectively force the department to operate an unmonitored statewide parks program without necessary resources.
They were very pleased with the product and that was really one of the selling points for us was how well it worked for them, how easy the interface was for our their staff to use to be able to find footage quickly and and and stop things from happening before they get out of control. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> If there's not um any other questions, I think I'm ready to actually make a motion. Was there any other questions though? because I feel like we could still continue to discuss this and maybe come up with a Okay. >> Um, may I? >> Yeah. With the stipulation that there might be additional motions, I would like they possibly might want to take more than one piece of action on this item. That's >> Thank you. >> Yeah. I'm just kind of putting this out there as like a working um motion and so I'm not even sure I have the wording down correctly.
Um, and I'll just end by saying, um, that operating these these these facilities are installed for public school kids. Um, it's not installed to handle the capacity of the general public. Um, so it's a really a very different type of programming um that the bill is asking for and here for comments. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Department of Health, anybody? >> Uh, Ch apologies. Aloha chair, vice chair, members of the committee. Justin with department of health. We stand on our written uh testimony offering comments. Mahalo. >> Can you give us a summary of the comments please? >> Of course. Um the Department of Health uh we believe that as according to 2025 data shows one in five uh youth under 18 are physically active meeting CDC activity guidelines. Um most of the many students particularly in rural communities do not have um accessible parks either they're not um either they're too far away or there is no meaningful or quality infrastructure such as sidewalks um low stress bike facilities and furthermore often than not schools may present the open opportunity for open for open space for green open spaces.
But um I think from all the information I've heard this evening um what I've gathered that uh we've we've purchased this program BRCATA and I'm gathering that it's something that we can very much customize to what our needs as a district are. I'm definitely hearing that um we are not liking the facial recognition piece and I completely understand that. Um, I like the idea and I'm not even sure how to make this motion, but we um we move forward with our decision that we've already made and we create um a committee that um consists of board members, um teachers, students maybe also since we have a a strong um student representation here tonight. um possibly other community members to determine what our priorities are as a community and what we want to um how we want to utilize this program. Um I think that makes the most sense.
Um this bill has the opportunity to um provide greater access for park space so children and their families may be able to have greater opportunities for physical activity and happy to take any questions or comments. >> Thank you very much Justin. Uh Joy Bolan poses we have a number of opposes and support total five opposed 10 five support 10 opposed three comments. Anyone else wishing to justify this measure? If not, okay, I just have a quick question. Who polices the school grounds now on weekends and after hours? >> Excuse me, Senator. What was the question? >> Who polices the school grounds? Like if people public wants to go onto the school campuses to do anything, somebody polices it. >> So, currently the campuses are not open to the general public. If someone wants to use it, an entity, we have a facilities use process. >> No, I understand.
Um I'm even I'm I didn't even realize that we had the opportunity to go with another and I'm sorry I'm not using these terms correctly, but another way to store the data. Correct. I mean that would be on our dime. we would purchase that. Um, so I think that that's even also something that we could further discuss. So I guess my motion is um we move forward and develop a committee to help um represent what our community wants in this program. >> May I offer a friendly amendment? >> Did that that committee, if it passes, that committee meets before we deploy uh any of the ricotta cameras? and um another friendly amendment type constraint to what we that because I know there's a schedule for finishing deployment of this that we h we asked this group if if we approve establishing a group to have a recommendation back to senior cabinet within 30 days.
If I wanted to take my dog and walk my dog on one of the school campuses because they're not all fixed yet, right? Yeah. Schools are security. >> You have security >> if not not always, but not always and not for all schools. Yeah. >> So, you can't keep people out >> if they walk across the campus and nobody's looking. Yeah. >> Like with any state property. >> Yeah. So if they wanted to hold a pick on the school, >> well somebody reported it to the school might show up but otherwise yeah it's like any state or county property. >> I'm just curious on that. >> I believe also Senator there are um no no trespassing signs on school campus. >> Yes. >> Okay. So if they call the police, police will remove them from the school. >> Okay. Members >> question do you see this as a potential uh revenue generating opportunity for the schools?
That seems like >> I don't think that's realistic. I'm I don't think that's realistic to be able to get that committee together, met, and have a decision within 30 days. I'm sorry. I just I mean, I'd love to be able to do that. I just I don't see how it's possible. I We can pause We can pause deployment as long as we need to. So, I just don't I don't think we need to be in a >> I don't know that that can happen. It's just too It's just too fast because I'm thinking, you know, I'm looking around the room thinking, okay, we, you know, how am I going to put pull this off, right? I mean, it's who who's, you know, getting getting the right people involved, including the people some of the people sitting out here. So, that's going to be a lot.
Like as example, there might be football clinics um from out of state that would like to hold their clinics um maybe at the schools that have a better laidout football field. >> Well, now they can do it with the facilities use. >> Oh, >> yeah. Yeah. >> And the the thing about the facilities use is that it it ensures that the property is protected, that they clean up after they leave and that sort of insurance. >> Yeah. without any kind of >> permits or any kind of >> we should charge them more. >> Okay. Thanks. Senator, >> I I guess you know the the question is you know you have some schools that are consistently used right for community use through your official process and then there's others that are hardly used and I think there's a disparity there and I think I think to me it's because you kind of leave it up to the principal to control and some of the you know I think a lot of that some of the principles are you know are like oh no our school's busy when really it's not.
>> We haven't voted on. >> All right. So, um, >> did we vote on accepting the friendly amendment? >> Well, if it's friendly, we don't need. She just needs to decide if she wants to accept it or or we don't need to vote on a friendly amendment. If she accepts an amendment is friendly, then it's just as if she had stated that in her original motion. >> So, I accept your friendly amendment. >> I'm sorry. I'm Mr. Mr. President. Oh my gosh. So, can either of you restate the motion so that we can get it make it clear or give it a shot and we'll keep hacking at it till it's clear. >> Okay, let me see if I can do this here. Um uh so I would like my motion is um we well we've already purchased the ricotta. Uh we create a um committee that consists of um uh teachers uh staff, students, board members and um community members uh to discuss which um which features we will enable, we will turn on um as part of the program.
Have you have you guys kind of looked at your policies on how you are fairly allowing the public to utilize your your your public facilities? Right? These are public facilities technically, but I think you're you're delegating a lot to the principles and it's it's kind of like a case by case basis. For example, one of my elementary schools, they won't rent you out their facility unless it's 30 days in advance and anything before that they're not going to rent you out, right? So I don't know I don't know what when have you looked into that and what what has been the result? >> We do have a process senator um for for schools to follow um regarding use of facilities. Um if you let me know which schools are experiencing some difficulty then we can help to follow up on that. >> Okay. But is there there there's a there's there's a specific statewide policy that everyone should be following.
And until uh we meet, we will not um push play on the on the cameras basically. We will not deploy them. >> Does that sound about right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Oh, yeah. That was yours. >> I'll second that motion. >> Let's do a a roll call. >> Hold up. Now, do we have a motion? >> We give it to discuss it. That's correct. >> All right. Um, may I just since I'm already talking? Um, okay. So, first of all, there's a lot going on here. Um, I do want to say that I really appreciate both the community and the vendors, and I don't think there are any bad actors here. I think everybody's trying to do what they think is right. And I'd like we all came at it from that point of view. Um, just we got to grant each other ground before we can have a debate, right?
>> There is a use of facilities policy that um schools follow >> and everyone has to follow that. So is there no discretion of the principal? >> Um there is discretion on there's some discretion um in terms of availability of the facility and such. But we we'll follow up with you on that. >> Okay. No, I I think I think the bottom line is the public needs to know that if you if you're saying that there's a process, >> yes, >> they if you go follow the process and they can't then I think then then it's kind of broken, right? So I think we got to got to look into it a little bit more. So thank you chair. >> Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? Um, moving along, we have community outreach. >> Senate bill 2261. This requires Julie AA to conduct a study on physician and dentist recruitment and retention to serve the island of Mokai.
Because there's so many issues here. We've heard about um the culture on our campuses and whether surveillance cameras in general as they exist or might exist in the future um inspire the kind of culture we want. Uh we've heard about concerns about data security um either via uh ricotta software via uh worries about uh AWS usage and um setup and concerns about data security from the point of view of uh you know human error um bad actors um and these are separate from the AI and facial recognition issue which is its own thing and I've heard a lot of much more consens ensus on that. I think we also heard about spending choices which is kind of linked to the culture um about whether this is where we want facilities money to go and finally there's an issue regarding how we as a board uh use the consent calendar and I know that internally that's already we uh some people have been having discussions about that.
I guess you can guess whose bill this is. So, Elizabeth Ignashio in support. Johnny May Perry in support. Mike Nent in support. That's all I have that signed up. Anyone here wishing to testify on this measure? Anyone here from dental order health? Not nothing. Okay. No testifiers here. Uh moving on to 30, Senate Bill 3047 relating to financial literacy requires Department of Education to implement financial literacy instruction into existing courses, public high schools, and sufficient overlap with financial literacy program beginning in 2027 2028 school year. And to testify on that, we have Kayashi. Aloha, Chair Kim, and members of the committee. Terry Ushiima, assistant superintendent testifying on behalf of the Department of Education. Uh, the department stands on its written testimony offering comments on SB3047. The department has implemented a requirement for all students starting with incoming freshmen in the 2026 to 2027 school year to successfully complete a financial literacy educational opportunity prior to graduation and is aligned with the financial literacy program standards which establishes a minimum knowledge, skills, decision-making abilities that students should acquire by the time of high school graduation.