Um so I think we kind of need to address all those at some point or another which is just to say that I do want to offer more motions in the future. As for this one, um I think that the committee is a an important first step. Um not only specifically around this issue, but because we um I don't I was going to say we we did screw up in passing the consent calendar and I think a lot of us were frugally found that. And the accountability piece is important. Um, and again, I I do appreciate staff has immediately um started working with us to figure out, okay, how are we going to make sure that big ticket items that might be really important as a community don't uh get passed without proper scrutiny. That's that's important. Um all that is to say that part of repairing uh that trust and making sure that um we remain a entity firmly re rooted in our community um is that this kind of a committee even though it will be slow um is the most important first step um long-winded way of saying I think we should do that thing.
and embedding financial literacy into existing courses is an option. So, thank you for the opportunity to testify. >> Thank you. We have Cahani Duko. Are you here? Not. We have testimonies from Helen Sante in support. Is Helen here? Yes. Please come forward. Okay. In support. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. Johnny May Perry comments and Ryan Mad in support. Ryan still here. >> You want to come up? >> Uh, I will stand on my >> stand on your testimony. Okay. >> What am I? >> 3116. >> Okay. Shall I just since we're on I called everyone for 3116. >> We'll take it out of order. >> Three for seven. At least >> Oh, wait. I did Keith on that. >> Okay, I'm going to stick with 3116 since I went down that list. Keith, you want to come back on that one and then we'll go back to >> getting lazy guys.
Yeah. So, I wanted to uh say that I think this is a is a um great learning opportunity for our senior cabinet or I I firmly believe that um John Vincent had no intention of like sneaking something onto this consent calendar without um the board uh having an idea of what was going on. I I I believe that that was not the intention. Uh, and nevertheless, I I also believe that the board didn't have when when you look at the RTI contract and the fact that there's nothing that mentions AI on it. Um, and I and I want you to also understand that the $1.9 million um to that to regular ordinary people, $1.9 million. That's a lot of money and I'm not downplaying that. But in a school budget, when you're looking at our budget of what is our our working what is our our yearly budget, >> we're about 225 million.
>> Chair, vice chair, members of the committee. Keith Aayashi, superintendent um testifying in support of uh this bill. Um, it is a a department administrative package bill and it updates the scope of the department's adult education program to align with the federal adult education and f family literacy act title two of the workforce innovation and opportunities act. It does provide greater emphasis on workforce readiness and workforce development uh providing underskilled individuals with educational activities to develop the skills necessary to be gainfully employed. Um the uh also it aligns with the basic and secondary education programs within the department's K12 programs and provides family and community literacy that includes financial literacy and health and wellness instruction. Thus, the adult education programs enable adult learners to develop the foundational skills necessary for a productive home and work life. Thank you. Stand by. And for the record, this is Senate Bill 3116.
>> Yeah. So 225 million. Um we we as a board we do see big ticket items come across for approval. Um and in facilities that's not that's not outrageous at all. Um you know we are building there are lots of things going on and um when uh I I told Mr. lake that I feel like if the public wants to come and with pitchforks, that's what we that's what we get, right? Because because it was handled badly. Um, and it wasn't just Mr. Lando. I I don't know if other members of the board asked for this to be agendaized, but I I did as well. And so, I think we are here listening to you, and I hope I hope that you feel like we listened and uh are compassionate and reactive and uh I feel like um the the district has has uh taken some responsibility and I I truly appreciate uh Mr.
Updates Hawaii statutory framework for adult and community education programs to ensure alignment with the federal funding requirements and best practices. Um, so I do have a question. Helen. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, you're on. Okay, go ahead. >> Uh stands on its um Aloha. you testimony. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you so much. Anyone else wishing to testify on 3116? Give me a treat. Okay. If not, Helen, if you can come forward. I have a question for certainly appreciate all the work our community um adults schools that go through and so thank you so much. Um right now how is it structured? Is it does it is it within the DOE? Is it >> Yes, we are part of the DOE. >> You're part of the DO, >> right? I'm a principal at within a school within the DOE. >> Okay. So, but structure it falls under what portion of the DO?
Vincent taking the time to walk us through how did we get here? Why why was this even an option? Um I think that is an important piece that we've had cameras on campuses for years for longer than even our seniors. They they were on campuses before this group of seniors was were in school, right? And so they the idea that students are being surveiled they tr it's true and they have been for their entire our seniors for their entire career in Chico Unified. And the difference is that our administration wants to do it more effectively for safety concerns. And that being said, I'm hearing that you're saying, "Yeah, but what what's going to happen with that?" Um, you know, I have a granddaughter at uh Rosedale and I have a grandson at Loma Vista. Uh, it's these are important things, right? I was a teacher.
>> I fall under complex area superintendent then I'll deal with >> from KMR. >> Okay. So, you get you get guidance and stuff from from that portion of the >> and also we fall under the workforce development branch with Wel Kaneshiro. Okay. >> So, we also work very uh closely with her. >> Is there any any things that we should be looking at helping the adult school and coordinating, consolidating anything? You guys are just they're doing folks work, but you know, is there anything we can do to help get more adults? >> Currently, we are in the process of um realigning the two schools. >> Okay. >> And that should occur come July 1 of this year. Okay. >> Yeah. And so what we're working on very diligently is workforce preparation for our students. And so we're working very closely with um the FP and with also Dana Wicker from DBED and the Department of Human Services >> and um providing the necessary training with our programs, our career foundations programs.
I I was a union president. I would want my, you know, my um teachers in my um unit to feel like they that their rights were being protected. So anyway, that's my comment. Are we ready to vote? Okay, let's do a roll call vote. We'll start with um member H. >> Hi. >> Olsen. I >> Conan I. >> Lando. I >> Robinson. I with a vote of five to zero. Um that passes. All right. >> May I offer another amendment on the same another motion on the same topic? >> Yes. >> Um I am very concerned about the potential use and misuse of um either biometric data or um facial recognition, true facial recognition um and the use of AI models to surveil our students. And I would like to and I think it's been brought up that there have been many large um districts and other entities around the just outright say no, we don't do that.
um build your bank, build your skills, and um >> what kind of >> build your farm? >> What kind of response are you getting from the communities? Your classes pretty much fill up or >> um we've gotten very good responses and so we've launched it's just launched not too long ago because of the curriculum was just very recently designed and um it's not only the community at large, but also our high schools. Our most recent is Wua High School that adopted the build your farm um curriculum and so Wahoo High School also there are several on Maui and um we're also moving to um Mulikai. So we're looking forward to meeting with the principal from Mulai. >> The um complex area superintendent of Maui um asked if we could do a presentation on our career foundations uh program which we will be doing very shortly.
So I would move that we direct staff to draft a board policy um that specifically bans the use of facial recognition and AI uh models in our security. >> I'd second that. I second that. We have um an amendment uh motion motion by Tom um to develop a board policy. >> It specifically bans >> specifically bans AI and facial recognition in our surveillance. >> And a second um by Second. >> Yes, I did. >> Darn it. >> You can vote. >> All right. Um, shall we do another roll call vote? Okay, we'll start with >> Is there any debate on this one? >> Do you want to do you want to have discussion? >> No, we just got just got to check. That's all. >> No. >> Okay. >> Sorry, I'm getting tired here and I need to go >> at my end again. >> Uh, we'll start with um Vice President Olson.
>> Okay. I think he folks give a a service to the people without them having to have to go to on a college campus but you know to go to um community college but going just to adult schools I think is a huge huge benefit and service to the people. So >> and I think the cost is really um I think beneficial to the community. So, it's only $20. And if you're really having a hard time and you're hopeless, I mean, help homeless. Sorry. >> Hopeless. >> I actually took adult ed for golf, believe it or not. They offer that. Yeah, I know. They had that. >> But we we offer scholarships. We find because people donate to the school, right? So, we offer those students. >> You have to let our constituents know about that. >> How do they get go for a scholar?
First >> Olson. I >> Conan I >> Lando I >> Robinson I >> Hace I >> with a vote of five to zero. That passes that motion. >> How are we doing guys? Are you needing a >> Can I Can I just just throw one more? I'm really sorry. Um, but as part of the um as part of um this committee, what we look at, I would like to I don't know if this needs to be a motion um but yeah, I kind of want it to be. Yes. I'd like to direct staff um to identify um prices and options for bringing uh our data inhouse rather than using AWS. I second that. >> Okay. Do you want to discuss that >> discussion? Um, yeah. I know I know we got information on that, but I I don't know that we ever got a kind of a firm handle on what that cost would be.
They just apply. You have on your online. We check financially, you know, if if their home is like >> Kakaako in the streets. So, we >> verify that and it's very easy to do >> and then we just offer the GED >> for free. >> Well, thank you very much. >> Yep. You're welcome. >> Just Oh, one question, >> Ellen. Quick question. >> Just just clarify. So, you you report to a CAS, >> correct? >> Of of where? >> Um KMR um Kami Kim Kim Roosevelt. >> Okay. And then who does the other principal for the community school for adults report to? >> He reports to his CAS I >> like Farington. >> What is Fington? See the thing is I work very closely with all of the Casses because I service many of the schools >> but I'm my supervisor is Lenel Dwell. So that so then there's no one overseeing then how the two community schools are interacting then because you're reporting to two different reporting lines then.
I know that they said there would be a cost. Um, do you want to put anything in there or ju or just that you want the information? >> I want the information as as we move forward with this with this committee. >> I feel like that's one of the key pieces they're going to need when they make these decisions. We're going to want to look at both. >> I have no objection to that >> because we're going to want to educate the whole community on okay, what does the security actually mean, but also, you know, how much is it going to cost us to do that if that's the route we chose we choose to go. So you would like as a part of the committee to also consider how much it would or what it would take to have our data stored inhouse. >> Yes.
So so in theory then there's supposed to be heidi. Well, actually, it's not going to be problematic anymore because we're going to be known as the Hawaii State Community School for adults come July one. >> But the reporting lines are what? At July one, >> we'll be to my complex areas. >> To who? >> To um Lynel, deal with >> just one. Yes. >> Both both will report to her. >> Um there will be one principal and that's >> Oh, you're going to be the only principal for the entire system. I see. I see. Okay, that makes more sense. Okay. Okay. >> Thank you, chair. >> Okay. Thank you. Okay. Now, we're going to go back to Senate Bill 3047. And this is the financial literacy measure that um DOE already um testified on. So, we have unless he wants to testify again. Um we can go to Hawaii State Board of Education.
>> Why don't we just make that happen then? >> I mean I don't necessarily think it need it can just be part of the committee's duties. Right. >> Okay. >> I don't think we need I don't know that it needs to be a separate motion for that. >> I >> No, >> I think um well I'm just clarifying. I think Tom is asking that we find out what that cost is and I mean because we do have I mean facilities we do have we have do have money that needs to be spent on facilities and if this money is being taken out of facilities I think it's important to know if we store it inhouse this is the cost I mean I think there is a co you have to look at the cost risk benefit and see if it makes sense to store it inhouse or whether or not that that we look at it and say, um, it doesn't make sense, but I thought Tom's motion was to direct the staff to find out what that cost would be.
>> Uh you have the testimony in front of you, members, chair. Um the uh the one point that we'd like to point out is that there's a section in there that requires the board of education to do professional development. And the board does policy. It doesn't do professional development. You know, it doesn't train teachers or do leadership development programs, all the rest of it. Yeah. So that's better. I'll refer to the um Department of Education itself. >> Okay. Thank you. Sherry Meno or Manor the left after the R testifying for Chamber of Commerce. >> Thank you. Thanks for sticking around. Okay, >> absolutely. Um Nadia Holt here testifying on behalf of Chamber of Commerce Hawaii. Um aloha chair, members, thank you for hearing our bill. Um I have here our um vice president at the chamber and subject matter expert in education to emphasize further.
Is that correct? >> Yeah. And >> yes. >> So, that's the motion that has been seconded is for the staff to find out the cost. So, we have a motion. Um, >> and report back, of course. Yes, you're right. So, I'm thinking like programmer now. Can't just make it variable. You got to do something with it. Anyhow, >> so a motion um to direct staff to find out the cost of using an in-house Yeah. storage. >> Yes. >> Okay. And that was by um Vice President Olsen. >> Okay. Let's just we've been unanimous for the last couple of times. Can we just do a vote all together? >> Okay. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Those opposed. Okay, that passes. Vote to five to zero. >> Any more motions? >> Um, we will at some point come back and look at the consent calendar.
So if I may yield. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Thank you, chair, as well as our committee members. Um, so we sent out our testimony just adding a few more comments to the bill. Um, so we are in support of the bill. Um, we hear this as an ask from our employers as financial literacy being a fundamental skill and we think embedding it into the courses would be really helpful um to make sure that the strength of the bill as well as the financial literies courses are go according to plan. Um, the appropriate funds would help support the educator professional de development to meet the workforce needs that we see. Um but we do also recommend the amendment um that the DOE takes lead and not the board of education when it comes to the professional development um around the bill. >> Okay. Thank you.