So we just needed to do the planning a little bit ahead of the establishment of district just because of the money the funds that we have available right now. I didn't want to lose it is what I'm saying. >> Yeah. So no I'm not talking about you in general. So I know you in the seat but I'm just speaking when I'm trying to explain that my whole issue is not about all the other stuff. My issue is again government is telling the people you can be on advisory board because you going to say everything but at the end of the day the board still going to vote yes or no in the advisoring from the kind the the community. So if the community tell you they don't want to rebuild that hotel that we breaking down. We don't want it there. We want it to be access to the beach.
So would love to hear from folks. What are you thinking? What might you want to do? What's going Yeah. I reached out to um some of the other people involved in this and um reached out to Joe Kumifford and so they're looking for visuals because they feel like they've done all the talking that they can >> and so looking for strong visuals. So, um I was thinking of local photographers and you know, empty chairs, um spelling out SOS. I think every school district involved is using SOS. So, they're looking for pictures, you know, um that have that symbol. I really didn't want to use pictures of our children because that felt like but empty chairs. Um everything from it could be hockey sticks or basketballs or um teachers doing SOS. Um at the high school when we were walking around there's a place where you can go up high to take a photograph from down.
Um, I don't I I'm going to vote against your amendment, but the reason being I I don't know that we should ask the council to apologize for doing what they thought was best for the town and the kids. It may not have gone the way we wanted it to go, but I'm sure it wasn't. There's nothing to apologize for. they're doing what they thought was right and what if had if it had gotten approved would have been great for us as well. So that that's all I got on that. >> Go ahead, Kim. >> Oh, thank you. >> Final word. No, I um I totally understand where you're coming from and I don't think they had like any sort of bad intent where I think the the apology is I guess would be dropping the ball on communication and now we're going back what we're we're going down a path of asking the voters a second time for it and it's and if I'm a voter I think voters are going to look and say huh what we just said no.
We want to have a usage for the community. You guys would be good with that? No. Is you guys going to build a hotel and we'll spend money to break down one hotel that the other person that even give nothing back. We're going to bring that buck on them down have somebody come in another commercial person who come in. What is the safety zone for our community and our community members? Senator Favlla, you know, uh, with respect to Country Club and the demolition of that hotel, that's really far from what it the [clears throat] plan envisions or at least some initial plans. We're actually thinking that country uh, country club and next door to it is the Uncle Billy's lot parcel that was recently destroyed. There's other hotels around there or former condominium hotels that around that area. We were actually envisioning that area to be open space and park space uh in addition to other uses but park space because one of the things that is going to happen with sea level rise is pl certain places on that peninsula are going to be subject to more sea level rise than others and it could be some of the parks like Lilio Colani Gardens.
So that's the big thing they're looking for. And then they're going to take them and put them all together. So, even if we all as we're walking around, but they are due March 3. So, but I really like like I was trying to think like what a powerful picture that's sort of um I have a bunch of pennies. I saved them. I thought like sort of a representation. You're only giving us pennies, not you know on a empty chair. um trying to make a point. So if anybody has great ideas, I mean, >> mayor, how about some pictures of the empty Green River School? >> I think that would be great. >> Okay, so >> with an IOU, >> in order for us to do things, because as you know, as we just learned, we only act as a collective. we need to vote to like officially want to participate and then designate the work to happen in somewhere or by somebody.
So there's a So the I guess the simplest way for me to put it is something went wrong and I don't think it's the board of ed that did something wrong. We made a choice and they just picked it up anyway. So it's it's not I don't mean to say any mal intent on their part, but uh they dropped the the turf. They dropped the ball. [laughter] Well, to to Mark's point, they were also working with a community group and you know, sometimes when your community comes to you, you want to respond to them and >> yeah, >> I think there were some powerful people in that community group. I'm just saying. Okay. Um, we have a amended amendment to the motion on the table that I'd like to take a vote on, and that is for the motion to continue to say to be amended that um that we get a special appropriation for that $7,500 um from the town council.
So to make up for sea level rise and not I know not everybody believes in sea level rise but it's a reality. So I think for Uncle Billy's for uh country club where we there's a bill to uh demolish it. Actually the vision is to do some kind of open space and some kind of park that can also serve as a buffer for sea level rise uh for that district. So I don't think anything has been set in stone in the planning. That's what I want the community master planning to bring forward from people. Senator, >> thank you. I'll just note um just for the clock um should the measure move forward um we'll get to see it again in the ways and means committee have further questions. >> Thank you, senators. >> Anyone else? >> All right, seeing none, thank you everyone. Let's move on to the next measure, SB2599 relating to development, which redesates the Stadium Development District as the Halava Community Development District um and makes uh related amendments.
Um, so I would entertain a a motion from someone about that. Yep. Member Goodman. >> I would move that you send it to the community engagement committee. >> Okay. Any seconds or >> I'll second that to open discussion because timeline is my concern there. >> Next week. >> All right. So, we had a motion from member Goodwin to refer this matter to the community engagement subcommittee. We had a second from member child's.
So, all in favor of the amendment, Mr. Colehower, Mr. All those opposed. Do I get do I vote or not vote? >> Yeah. >> So that's four. Four against. So the motion fails and we are back to Mr. Ek's motion that the Cheshire Board of Education approve the expenditure of $7,500 for SLR to complete preliminary design services for the track and field project. And we have a second to that emo to that motion already. >> Well, we already had a second. We already had a second by Mr. Kolhau. >> Uh, any more discussion on that before we take that vote? >> I'm sure the answer to this is yes. Um, I just want to ask it. Uh, so I I know we're talking about the 7500. The total for all this kind of design and the preliminary and the consulting and the documents is $30,000.
And first up on 2599 is HCDA >> stand. Thank you. Uh up next is Stadium Authority. Thank you, Chair, and thank you, Chair Decoy, as well. Um Mikey Dao from the stadium authority. This and the measure afterward, um we stand on our written comments or we stand on our written testimony and support. We welcome the opportunity to codify and to strengthen our relationship with HCDA. We would like to note however for both this and the bill afterward that there are some issues in that the stadium authority has sole jurisdiction currently over the entire development of the 98.5 acres. That has to that that has to change should this relationship move forward in this manner. And also um we do believe very strongly that we currently have a relationship with the city administration that we can move forward on infrastructure permitting um that we have the things in place necessary to get a vibrant community and a vibrant district in the upcoming years and that this HCDA model would serve as a backup um to that that we can move forward as currently constituted.
Any discussion, questions? All right. I've got the mayor and then member child. So, I think that's a great idea, but we just heard about the subcommittee's role from Liz. Um, I think if that goes to subcommittee, if we need to submit something by March 3rd, we wouldn't be weighing in on that. So, if anybody has any thoughts on that. Yeah, that was my question as well whether or not it is possible with the timeline. >> Yes. >> With with the timeline, they would also need to bring it back for approval before submitting it like the subcommittee would or how would we handle that? Like I guess we're only talking about subcommittee right now. I'm just wondering how we'd handle that in general. Yeah, I I get the sense that if we are following the exact sort of letter of the thing, then we send work to be done by a subcommittee, they do work or come up with a draft of something, they bring it back to us and we either say try again or good job.
I assume it's been competitively bid and we got like a whole bunch of other co other bids before we landed here. >> Yeah, we did get other proposals. This um being design work that we're focused on now, there's a $35,000 threshold. So, the design work doesn't fall under that that that threshold. Um so, we did solicit as many people as we knew that did this work. It was six six um three ultimately responded, but we are following all of the regulations with bidding. Yes. Well, any other questions, Mr. White? >> Yeah, on on the original motion. Uh, yes. So, I'm I'm not going to be supporting this tonight. Um, I do think it's I do think that this is maintenance and we should do it, but I also think that we are headed down a path right now where this will be more difficult than it could be if we have if we had council leadership speak to it.
Thank you. >> Thank you. That's everyone who testified on this measure. Is there anyone else? Aloha, Angela Melody Young testifying on behalf of CARES um in strong favor of this legislation. So I don't know about the competing interests to manage Aloha Stadium District, but I can provide a proposed amendment. Um so which is that the committee um the committees should consider a work group to invite University of Hawaii invite the county's office of DPP who is experienced in transit oriented development zones and can assist with um the planning because the Oahu general plan already anticipates University of Hawaii and the train um and that's you know a development zone within um the Aloha Stadium district and so the counties can also provide clarification about um the complex transit oriented development zoning standards. And so, you know, making minor major adjustments in the powers of these authorities are central to the new Aloha Stadium Entertainment District project.
Um or don't try that again. One of those one of those things. So, it does seem like maybe >> yeah, we are in a bit of a conundrum. member Den and then the mayor. >> There's an easy way to solve this. What we have to do as a committee is we have to designate a representative to do this work. Choose a person or have a person step forward who can do this work and then we empower them and then they go and they do it. That we don't have to go through subcommittees to do this kind of thing. We just designate a representative and empower them. >> Thank you for that. That's very helpful. Um >> I concur. That's what I was bringing up. That's what I was I was going to say the same thing as you. I've seen it done on other committees.
And so I encourage the council leadership to speak to what happened and hopefully communicate it fairly broadly to the town. Um that would go a long way in getting me on board with moving forward on this because like I said it's just too reminiscent of the pool. Just going back and back without getting a full explanation of it is uh problematic for me. So that's it. I I agree with you and I will be supporting this uh motion because I'm interested in moving this forward. Um but I do agree with you and I think it's incumbent upon us, everybody on this board and on the uh town council to to make it a point to work in tandem and to have those conversations. >> Mr. Colehower, >> uh just a process point. Um, as we know on page four here the other processes. So I think I'm seeing two weeks for them to do this preliminary design.
and to streamline the complex process from a single state-run stadium to a co-management of a 98 acre um mixeduse community with the initiation of the demolition and the dismantling of the original stadium to be completed by mid 2026. It's a lot. So, the committee should anticipate working with the counties. Thank you. >> Is there anyone else wishing to testify on this measure? Seeing none, other questions? Seeing none. All right, let's move on to the next measure. Um, SB2604 relating to the stadium development district which appropriates funds uh for the planning design development of the stadium district by HCDA contingent upon stadium authority submitting a report that includes various documentation. Uh, testifying first is HCDA. >> Um, good afternoon. Stand on written testimony comments. Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh, up next on Zoom is the attorney general. >> Not on Zoom. Chair, >> uh, in person.
You just designate someone. >> Okay. Then you all can choose to friendly amendment your motion if you would like or resend it and and bring a new one. >> I withdraw my motion. >> All right. Motion withdrawn. Do we have another motion to designate a representative? >> Oh, yeah. And >> if she is willing, I would move to designate member Goodwin to be our representative for SOS on the grounds of she's the one who came with all the ideas for it. >> Okay. >> Member Netman, I see you came off mute. Did you have >> uh Yeah, second. >> Okay, great.
Would we expect then some at some point after the two weeks or the following planning committee after that that we go through this again for 2.0 and then 3.0? I mean are >> Yeah. in two weeks, three weeks, are we going to be voting on $8,000 for >> going through local regulatory permitting or >> Yeah. So, what I'll say is before we go through the twoe preliminary, if if this were to be approved tonight, there needs to be a conversation with the planning committee about like the actual specs and what we want to ask them to do in their preliminary design work. Um, and once they've submitted the design, the next step is including in our capital plan. Really the idea here being the preliminary design work gives us an estimate of probable cost so that we can include that in the capital plan and have some renderings to share with the community about this.
>> Good afternoon, Deputy Attorney General Kevin Tong with comments. Uh, we have concerns that certain provisions of this bill conflicts with the stadium authority soul jurisdiction as uh, raised by Mike Yadal. Uh, we recommended certain um, amendments or changes in our written testimony depending on the intent of the legislature. I'm available for questions. Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh, finally, Stadium Authority again. >> Thank you, Charlie. Thank you, Senator D. Mike Dal, Law Stadium Authority [clears throat] Executive Director. Um, I don't want to sound like a broken record, but but essentially it's similar to the previous and that we welcome the opportunity to work with HCDA. However, we believe that as currently constituted, um, the CDM authority has sole jurisdiction over the 98.5 acres and that as currently constituted, we can move forward. But again, we welcome ACDA involvement and we welcome the opportunity to move forward as a partnership.
Uh any discussion? Yep. Take your time. >> The only thing I want to say is I really like the change or the pennies on a chair or like um I don't know if you have availability to find some like desks to do something like that, but maybe with some old outdated curriculum there. >> I was looking around today on our tour. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. So, we have a motion on the table. Thank you for the discussion. Are we ready for a vote? Looks like yes. When you're ready, member Webb, can you please call the role? Yep. >> Member Dyman. >> Yes. >> Member Goodwin, >> yes. >> Chair Ston, >> yes. >> Member Webb, I'm Yes. Vice Chair Childs, >> yes. >> Member Dene, >> yes. >> Mayor Disorger, >> yes. >> All right. Thank you. Member Goodwin, please go forth. Um, all right.