2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 33
But that is it. We we've talked to Isby and we have talked to Will County ROE. The only other thing I have to say kind of that'll go into your budget thing is the fresh air is correct when you're remodeling or renovating a building. So, when you're doing work in a school like we did in this building, if we were adding air conditioning, then we would have to bring up the building to those standards if we're adding something of that nature. I think you and I had a conversation that the temporary air conditioners, a window air conditioner, whatever it would be, is a bridge to a solution. It's not it's not a I'm just I know we're going to I'm just saying that's what that is. that if you're putting in a temporary situation, that's not a solution. The solution is to bring in air conditioning, bring in the fresh air, bring in the energy codes.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 34
I understand all that. But if you're bridging a gap and because let's be realistic, there's a couple things you're going to bring up, there's some bigger numbers there. And to do that, which we know two and a half years ago was told that if it's not life safety, we have to go, you know, we have to go to the public for the approval. Well, no, that that that's not right. You don't have to go to the public for approval if you're doing renovations because it's what we've done partially in this building. All right? So, you do not have to go to the public. We did life safety here, right? Not we did not do just life safety here. Keep that in mind. The lighting that we did was not life safety. We added that into the budget and that um so we just did not do life safety.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 35
Correct. We did life safety in in accordance with with what we had to do. But at the same time, you see the only thing that was life safety now so I I'll get into detail. The only thing that was life safety was replacing the pipes. Your fixtures were not life safety. Your toilets not life safety. New partitions not life safety. New lighting not life safety. None of that is life safety. All right. So again, my question to the board would be, and I can go either way on this. If you replace the pipes, do we put the old fixtures back in? Which makes no sense. I understand that, Bill. But but that's that's the way this gets and that's how cut and dry this is when it comes to the Illinois school code and the way life safety works. When you talk about fresh air and you talk about a temporary solution with schools there are no temporary solutions.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 36
It's a solution whether that solution lasts one year or 50 years it's a solution. So that solution has to meet the Illinois school code. And what the code is saying according to my report and that which was done by an engineering consultant is that we have got to bring in fresh air even if we temporarily cool a space with a window air conditioning unit which means either you run the unit event that is there that is kicking out heat or we open the window that that's the only solution that so that's what I'm saying. Now, I'm not saying we don't do it, but I just want to make this I I just want to make it clear because I want to make sure when we install something and do something, it meets our codes. That's all I'm saying on that. So, so that's why, you know, there's a lot more to this, you know, as we go down that road.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 37
That's all. I have one question about the fans. Yes. Um the public comment that said they were only getting 15 per school. I had a conversation with the superintendent when I saw that you had purchased 15 fans. And my understanding was that every classroom had a fan, but those 15 were for a hallway or a corridor somewhere that we needed to push air. Is that correct? For a lot of buildings, we already have coral fans. The the fans that we're ordering are for classrooms actually. Now, I just said order 15 fans, multiply it by how many five buildings, and that's how many fans we ordered because some won't need all 15, but some, you know, so so we'll move around, but that that's just how many we ordered. Now, again, we can we can easily order more. I can get them here overnight. That that's not an issue.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 38
But again, a lot of the buildings already have corridor fans. Okay. But my clarification that I need is do does every classroom have a fan? Every classroom will have a fan. does not currently and we start school tomorrow. I don't believe it. I don't I don't believe it does, but I don't know that right off the top of my head. I can I can check that out. Okay. Because we start school tomorrow. I know. And it's going to be 90°. I know. Okay. So, when I had my conversation with you, that was not correct. And we should have acted on that immediately. Every classroom does not have a fan. And I get it that that doesn't cool, but at least it moves air. We need to get on this. We need to check. I can have fans by tomorrow morning. Okay. I I think we need to check.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 39
I'm I'm not kidding around here because we're looking at 90 tomorrow, which means 105 in a classroom at least. And when we chatted, I think there was a misunderstanding that those 15 were for corridors only areas that needed them. I I really think that that's something we need to get on immediately. So, at least we have air movement if nothing else. It's going to be hot air movement, but there's a little breeze in your face that might dry a little bit of the sweat. It can. What type of thought are we putting in when we obtain these fans? Because I heard from the teachers that Yeah, we got a temporary fix here with the fans. Okay. I don't want to call it a fix, but a temporary effort. Mhm. And the fans is not the optimum solution to provide cooling air for our kids. But I heard the teacher say that they were noisy, so they were impeding learning.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 40
So when we go out there and get these fans, are we looking at some type of efficiency, noise level or whatever, or are we just getting fans? There are no quiet fans. There are some quieter fans. Well, there's some quieter ones, but they're not quiet enough in order. Now, again, now let let me let me share. So, they have came a long way with fans themselves. Right. But my understanding is last meeting that you had the committee, the whole meeting when you were in here, there was not air conditioning. Am I right? I believe there was not air conditioning in there, right? And you had fan going, right? And he it was pretty loud. Well, and that's the size of fans I'm getting. Okay. I'm getting 20inch fans, you know. I mean, oh, no. This was a big commercial fan. Well, the ones that were over there.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 41
Yeah. Over here. But but again, but what I'm saying is that they are no matter what size you get. If I get a smaller box fan that is is quieter. All I do is just challenge you. I just challenge you to just seek to get the most efficient noisewise. And I agree with the teachers here in their classroom. We also have a hepailter running. So now I've got a hepailter running and I've got a fan running. So now I got more noise. Yeah, that helper filter is pretty quiet. That's the little white box. What is that? The UV. Which one is that? Here's what I'll say. It is not that quiet. I have one in my office actually that runs. And when I go on the phone sometimes if I go on a conference call, I got to shut it off. Okay. Do me a favor.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 42
Just real quick. something you can do just download a sound meter on your phone and just go in there and test how many decibb it is. Well, they they'll be able to tell you. Oh, just just check. I'm just Yeah, I can. Okay. Sure. I'm just curious what it is. Sure. Okay. Uh 90 is required by old to wear earplugs. That's 90. So regular talk when you're talking it's probably 4550. So, I just want to know how much that adds in decibels to that sound level. Sure. Okay. All right. Well, I have maybe it's rhetorical or whatever the question is. It shouldn't even be a question. How long How long have we known that this is an issue? We know that it's been forever. How many opportunities have this board and previous boards had to fix this? Tons. fans. We know that in the classroom it's gonna be loud.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 43
You can't hard you can barely hear and it's I mean we could beat the dead horse. At the end of the day we have to decide for their sake what the plan is moving forward whether it be for act of God days, heat days, whatever. And I'm assuming they have a plan and what the but the bigger plan is which is not what the teachers are necessarily looking for now but I guess that I would assume they would be happy with in the future is okay how soon I think they would want to hear when are we going to get air conditioning in the in the buildings for the teachers and the students. I'll share that with you tonight or for the Okay. So that and that's what I'm looking to hear is like and and we say teachers and students. I say students and teachers cuz I think that too often as adults we put us first and then them the students second.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 44
It's all even when the one teacher spoke and I'm not criticizing her but she said teachers and students or whatever staff and students. Yeah. I I don't I I I care about they have to be in a great in a good working condition. Um the students have to be in a great learning condition and we have to have a plan and we have to move forward with it and and not be revisiting this next year this time or in the in the summer or the um springtime, what have you. A decision has to be made. Um and you say you're going to share that with us. I and I definitely look forward to hearing that. Um I think at this point I guess everybody gets to say what they want to say but at this point I just want to know what the solution is for the the teachers um and every and um from their concerns.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 45
Sure. Any other questions on the heat update? Okay. Thank you, Shantel. And Ken, you're up next with the discussion of the fiscal year 22 budget. I am. And thank you. Good evening, board. Good evening, Dr. Cara and public. Um, I've shared with you, I've given you the a hard copy of the budget presentation. It's probably a little bit easier to read and that, uh, for the public, it is out there on board book, so you'll be able to download it. Um, most of the information, you know, some of it has remained the same. um pages four and five which are uh the end of the year that has all remained the same. Um so I'm not going to go into that. Uh then when you go into page six through nine those are some charts that I had put in last time but I'm going to go all the way through to page 10 which is a summary of the budget um to kind of give you an idea how the change has taken place.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 46
So you will see the on the um left side of the page the 2122 draft budget from July that I presented where I showed a surplus deficit of $6.3 million adjusting that taking out construction costs of 2.7 million. I've gone back and as President Alrech said I've sharpened my pencil and also have tweaked it. I've done both of those things and um now you're going to see a surplus deficit of $4.8 million. There are construction services in there uh of $3.1 million and I'll I'll go over that a little bit later. Meaning that there's an adjusted what I'm going to call an operating deficit of $1.7 million right now. Now the question is where is that coming from and why is that there and how's that explained? So, if you go to page 11, I've talked a little and we've talked about this before about transportation revenue and the revenue that we get from the reimbursement of transportation.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 47
And so, I'm going to kind of walk you through this because I wanted to kind of explain and show you where that $1.7 million is. And actually, it's about $2 million. So, I've got numbers on the top there, and I've referred those in different columns. I thought that was easier for me to point out to all of you and the public in that. So you'll see in column one there are regular vocational reimbursement and special education reimbursement. So we get reimbursed from the state both for regular and vocational transportation along with special ed transportation on a total it's approximately 80%. It changes kind of every year based on a number of factors that the state does but for the most part 80%. You will see that in 201617 those are the numbers we've received. You'll see that reimbursement and that's revenue that has come in in those years.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 48
You'll see that steadily increase as we go. Again, your expenses increase. So, uh that's why those kind of increase. So, at the end of in 1819, we received $4.2 million in revenue reimbursement from the state for transportation cost based on the previous year's expenditures that you submit. So, now let's go to column five and six. kind of the yellowish green color, whatever you want to call it there. So, you'll see in 1920 we received revenue of $4.7 million based on claimable expenses the previous year of $5.9 million. All right. Then you go to columns seven and eight, the blue columns, and you'll see in 2021, which again, we were full remote from March uh 2020 to June 2020. So, we received $3.5 million in uh 2020 2021 based on the expenses from 1920 of $4.2 million. So again, you'll see a decrease in the allowable expenses because we were remote at that time.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 49
And then again, you go, let's go a year further then. Our revenue in 2122, which is the budget, is going to be 2.7, at least I've estimated, is going to be $2.7 million of revenue based on expenses from 2021 of $3.6 million. So, what I'm saying is if you compare column 10, that total number 2.7, go back to when we had a full year of 4 point of column six when we got that reimbursement, there's about a $2 million difference. Okay. Now, take into effect our budgeted expenses in transportation, which is column 11, is going to be $6.2 million. So, they've jumped up now. And that's because we're going to have a full year in person and we're going to be paying full transportation. All right. So, the 1.7 million is because of a lack of revenue really in transportation and that that we're not getting.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 50
Now again, the previous year, keep in mind, last year we had a surplus in our operating fund of $2.3 million, and we knew that going in. We figured that that's hopefully will carry us and help us with this year's deficit. We knew that. Okay.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 51
So, I don't know if there's any questions about that. Be happy to answer, but I just wanted to kind of share that historical with you to kind of understand the revenue stuff. Ken, real quick, looking at five, just take five at the bottom. Yes. And the allowable expense, the last one, it's like 5.9 million. Yes. Okay. So, that's those were our expenses. And then we obtained revenue of 4.7. That's the reimbursement. Yes. 4.7 was the reimbursement. Yes. Okay. So, transportation is a cate category that we levy. Yes. So how much would would we have levied in transportation for example in this year? So that's what I'm looking at. I don't know to that off. Okay. But would we had levied what our expected expenditures would have been the difference? No. No. The same just say I if we expected five $6 million that's what we expected to expend in any given year.
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2021-08-18 Will County, IL YouTube / Technical Support transcript source: youtube Crete Monee School District 201u Board Meeting 8/17/21 · passage 52
I know the budget and the levy kind of offset a little bit 6 months or so. I'd have to look that. But do you understand what I'm saying? I'm saying if we levied what we expected to expend and yet we got reimbursed 80%. So I would think that we levied enough to cover our expenditures. Yeah. Roughly. And I know the levy and the budget is two different things. And I agree. I understand what you're saying. I'll have to look at that and see. I I'll take a look at that and get back to you on that. Yeah. Because what it looks like here is our expenditures, our expenses is x amount of dollars and then we only obtain so much revenue and it wasn't enough to cover our expenses, right? But I would have thought we levied enough to cover our expenses and then we got reimbursed, right?
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