Do you know I know that may just be baked into people's roles but can you speak to that at all? >> Um so we do have like adver there are some lines in the budget for advertising and like for when we have to post the um school choice in the newspaper like that can come out of that line. If there's other things that you all are thinking of and have a cost estimate, um I can tell you if that's something that we already like we have enough money in the budget already for, but it if it's a lot higher then that we need to consider adjusting the budget, then please provide me some quote or an estimate. >> Okay. I don't think it's anything significant, but I'm going to take a little time and Margaret I'll I'll share I'll send an email to you and Shannon and Dr.
I'll just stop and listen to any questions you might have, any comments. >> Well, I appreciate you getting the numbers back on the renovation budget cost breakdown and I think that's something the community certainly wanted. >> Absolutely. And I think that uh we need to focus on being able to get that out here sooner than later [clears throat] to create some talking points about that. So, >> and Darla, chime in if you have anything else you want to add. Um, >> just we need to know I guess what you guys are thinking the next step is >> Well, I think next meeting. I don't know what these guys, but so um the community has asked we I mean they had the questions when we had the meetings and so we kind of have put some of those questions together and Christie has done a lot of work on that also.
They're going to have to be managed and stored and secured by a school employee if they bring them into school. So, somebody's going to have to manage that. And they're also going to have to manage when they leave, how it's going to look, if they leave early, how it's going to look. I mean, there's a lot of moving parts whenever you're talking about what that looks like. So, uh, something we're having some discussions with if that does come to fruition, like it looks like it's going to, um, we're trying to make sure we have a plan in place and that'll be reflected in our handbook once we start into our handbooks this summer. >> So, we do already have with some guarant. >> Yeah. Just not as stringent as what these are. >> Yes. Yeah. So KSD audit went well. Um we still have the possibility that we could republish the virtual budget.
They don't need a building the size of the what it is. They need a building the size of what you designed. If the question that I heard from a number of people is if you took the uh police station just built that and said, you know, don't put a second floor on it. Could you tell me the incremental costs between just building the estimated cost, just building the first floor with the police station in it or just building that roof 12 feet higher and putting in four new walls and and some cubicles? >> Well, it's it's directly proportional to the area, right? So, the ground floor is 10,000 square feet. The upper floor is 6,000 square feet. If we were building just a police station, you have a little less because you don't have stairs and elevator, right? So, you'd be about 8,000 square feet.
Um the kids are looking for people who are willing to provide spending money for the kids so they can you know get beverages and food and stuff like that on their senior trip. Um they may have had the trip sponsored but they're concerned that the kids won't have spending money and stuff too. So I know that they'll be asked they're coming to the foundation on April 1 to ask for that. But I just wanted to put it out there, especially since, you know, we're have the reporting and stuff, too. If there's anybody that wants to just donate any money, I'll make sure I get it to Julie. So, the kids have >> Disney gift cards. >> It could be Disney gift cards. >> I would recommend Disney gift cards because they could be used anywhere at Disneyland. >> Are you going? >> Yes. Of course, I'm going.
So we're we're in the works of really making sure vertically that we are continuing to be aligned. But yeah, that that's definitely something we need to continue to work on. >> Thank you, Dr. Um, next we'll hear from Dr. Finley on an update on some transportation efficiencies for the 2026 2027 school year. So, um, as we've been reviewing our transportation department routes throughout the district, um, we're trying to find some areas where we can gain some bus drivers right now. I mean, it's a national trend. I think districts all over the country are facing significant challenges with ongoing bus driver shortage. So, we're trying to to solve some of those issues. Unfortunately, here in Avon, we're not immune to some of those challenges and um what we've been able to do this year though is hire quite a few really good bus drivers and we've been proud of their efforts.
And I think you all have done a really nice job of every other year, every few years, you look at doing a project and you address a chunk of those at a time, you're doing the same thing. I just want to point that out and it's good for me. It's like, okay, well, if you had a house and it's worth, you know, 250 $50,000, probably in a given year, you might be putting in four or $5,000 to replace something, especially as things get older. Okay, nobody follow their chairs. Um, this is this is the one slide that summarizes basically all of the efforts, cost estimates with timing. Once again, your binder is going to have it in much greater detail per system per building. Um but for purposes of tonight, everything that you've heard about kind of puts, hey, we have the the high school, middle school, uh the office building, our admin building there, all the all the facilities that we evaluated.
We've talked to him many times. I talked to him today actually. Um he is wonderful in getting us help. Uh we've actually had several meetings with him, presentations just to ask questions because this is new data and reporting that we've never seen before. Uh so he's been able to lead us through and answer some questions. Uh and the state is making adjustments. That sheet that I showed you that this the teachers are breaking their data down, the state's actually going to do that for us next year, which is wonderful. Everyone's going to be very excited to know that because it's very time consuming, but it really gets you to know your data, which is great. Uh so going back to the LL quickly, that's a program that we pay for uh the district pays for and it's linked for both math and reading. And what it allows teachers to do is assign um specific standards.
Um, I read it aloud, they do it all. And um Schubert then gets to act out like when something wrong um goes terribly wrong of all the things and how you would handle it. Then they take that lesson um with assertive voice which we've already taught in a morning PD and they use their sentence frame frame and they practice it with their buddy classrooms, right? And then they take it a little bit further and they now are starting to apply it to other things in their classrooms when things don't always go our way. How to use that big voice or a certain voice. These are just some more examples of visuals that we have put in place and modeling. Lots of visuals, lots and lots. And we started, if you see up in the very top next to the first arrow, that's how we started.
>> True. But you got to you got to avoid it first. >> Mhm. Yep. Got to avoid it. Which which she hasn't been doing with those cannonballs or the crown. Oh no. Oh, but King Kroll hasn't been avoiding the swords either. Tries for a counter, but that but I'm pretty sure that was a misinput on Izzy's part. Or maybe she expected King K roll to go to the platform. All right. Does a side be in terms of edge guarding. Tries to read for a neutral. Get up. >> Jumps over. Oh, it does. Shield that jump. >> We We just throwing projectiles. >> Yep. >> We just throwing them out. >> If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Izzy's going to have to find a way around. She could have used her her battles. >> Yep. Jumps up. Oh, >> nice shot from the table. >> Mhm.
Z if and when she's when she's back. Um, just around that that question if if there I don't think there are, but I'll take a little bit of time on advertising costs. The only other thing that I think was coming up when we were talking about this in February was um in the past kindergarten and first grade teachers used to need some time to go visit schools and I don't know if that needs accounting for in the budget. >> Um, well, I'm not sure what you mean. Like in the past the KN&1 teachers would go visit some of the private local preschools to share that choicing and wasn't that that Palm had school choice and to share about the school. Um I don't know if they did that on during their regular school day. That's that's my question. >> Okay. Um I'm not sure either, but I will connect with Mickey and we can circle back to that.
Um so we need to focus on that and then be able to provide that feedback to the community because that's what they're wanting. Uh because if you see the surveys there a lot of unknowns there. they have a lot of people that says unknown or I haven't can't decide yet etc or whatever. So we need to focus on those hidings that we need to get out and you know that this one here was one of them that they really wanted to know what that's cost us. Uh conceptual drawings I mean we we've kind of redone some stuff there. >> Um >> I did share with you there is a drawing in there from I want to say version 1.0. This was before we came on board with about any construction management companies and that was an idea that looks similar to I want to say Burlington Middle and Burlington High School and if that's something you want to pursue in terms of a little different conceptual drawing we can look at that uh the meeting today and I and I say Darless if I miss something here really what Macau Gordon and and GMCN want to kind of have an idea what they need to do to move forward in terms of do you want them to work on information regarding a new building with some different I want to say different parameters four sections we'll move it to three sections for example we had a gym that we were going to have as as a competition gym that would seat 750 do we need to trim it down to 500 seating capacity darl and I talked a little bit about when we had an elementary music program so just throw out just a general number let's Let's say we have 60 first grade kids and at that music program we have in the gym.
So just to explain that a little bit more when we do the budget on the adult side, we have to put in how many credits we anticipate for the next year. Um West Sharing Credits, we went down from 3,200 credits to 3,000 credits this year. So we are right right on the borderline of having to republish that budget. So it's not republishing the whole budget. If we stay at the 3,000 credits, the best way to explain it is if we go over that, we're only going to get what we put down in the budget. You would rather over estimate than underestimate on the virtual site. So, there could be the chance that we do have to um republish that. We talked to Frank Harwood at KSD earlier this week. Was it that was that this week? It was this week. >> This week on what that would look like moving forward so we kind of have a plan in place once we get our March credits from Graduation Alliance.
So, you know, if divide that by the total of 15. So, you're somewhere around 60 65% of the overall cost for just that, >> the first floor. And and you have to build a foundation no matter what. No matter what >> you're building one or you're building two floors, you're still building one foundation, >> right? >> Okay. So, you think it's about 65% >> for just the first and then 35 for the uh to the the incremental cost for the second floor? >> Yeah. Wouldn't that u potentially be much higher? I'm just thinking from the standpoint of walls walls compared to all the accessories that would be needed um in a police department, cells. I mean, there's certain uh I guess type of protocol that they would have to follow and build on the first floor that wouldn't be needed on the second floor. I don't know.
She'll >> I mean, if you need another chef, >> but then you could That way you can give them to the kids, too. like you could hold on to. >> Yeah, that's the plan that I'll be holding on to them and um sending the kids >> to come back with. >> Yeah, we still have three that need to be sponsored, but um I will want to say Willow Hills Baptist Church in Prescuit has been phenomenal and they've already sponsored three and they've offered to sponsor the rest that still need to be paid for. >> Nice. And how much is it per student? >> It's $300 per student. >> So, I do still have three that need to be sponsored. How much spending money do you think that they have to have? >> Um, for food and drink, I think $100 would cover it. >> That's what we're going to ask for is $100 per person.
We still have some efficiencies that we're finding in our transportation department. One of the things that I want to talk about is Area 31 and it was one of those programs as we as I started this year, I just started asking a lot of questions trying to understand first of all what they offered. It's such an incredible program. and they offer so many good things for our students and that career education piece is so important. But then understanding exactly what that looks like in the mornings and and so right now what we're doing and and that transportation lot is a busy place in the mornings. So many things moving in different directions and for area 31 right now we have eight morning routes that pick up 106 students. So we're designating eight drivers to 106 students. So eight buses are going throughout the district in neighborhoods to pick up students, take them to Ben Davis, then from Ben Davis, they go out from there and there's so it's this web of activity that's happening with just this one single program.
If you wanted to do everything today, which you don't, and nobody has that type of ability or money to do it, you could spend 43 mill almost $44 million to address every building. Once again, part of that actionable strategic plan is looking at putting this putting these plans out there for the future. So you all as a board and as a community can discuss what truly are your priorities and when do you have an opportunity to tackle on some of these needs. So they're parsed out there between 0 to two years, 3 to four, 5 to 7, 8 to 10, and then 11 11 plus. The challenge I'll present to you all tonight is that's based upon kind of our team, my team back here looking at it with their lens through some conversations. You all kind of know your buildings very well, your staff very well, how you teach.
It actually is linked to our math textbooks as well. So it can correlate directly to that. But my favorite feature is that we have the checkpoints that feed directly into that program and it allows students uh what's called a skills plan. So wherever they have fallen in their proficiencies, it it generates the exact types of lessons and question types that students need to help start filling those gaps. So between that program and the teacher, they're kind of getting uh double duty to to hit what they really need. My favorite part of that middle school teachers are putting questions up on the TV and saying to kids, "All right, find a partner. How do you answer that question? And kids are tearing the question apart, drilling down and thinking together because often the pure math the kids can do. It's the question that's catching them up, right?
And like nobody looked at that. It's just all words and so we had these big posters and we thought they were really neat looking and like they didn't work at all. And so then now if you see it's all it's actual kids our kids we've taken pictures of all the visuals of the kids doing all of the procedures and they pay much more attention to themselves in pictures than they did the chart. >> Um and we just stress how important it is to model visual and practice and when it doesn't go their way to try it again right okay acceptance empathy and we care centers. We're almost done I promise. Um, so we care center is a lot for our staff. So we have some different areas in our building that we try to have for them to be able to go and just like have them in it.
Jumping up and jumping. Going up and down. Oh, yep. of King Rule getting the first stock, but luckily Izzy is pretty good at taking stocks. >> That was a good punish. Izzy trying to go in for something that would probably kill if it sent the right wave. Speaking of things that kill, >> did you see that hitbox? It hit King K Rule and blocked the crown in the same move. The amount of timing on that. Absolutely bonkers on Izzy's part. >> Very nice play. Yes, >> very nice play indeed. And now Izzy doesn't have her own projectiles either. [clears throat] At least as Mithra as Pyro, she has one projectile. Oh, tries for a side B, but but King K Rule's projectiles actually interrupt interrupt as he side B. So yeah, that side B isn't necessarily the safest either. >> Yeah, >> it's not like it's not like you can combo that much off of it either because of how far it sends the opponent.