We can't do it on our own. Um and we've made a number of cuts that will be happening regardless. Um and I guess what I'm looking for and what I' I'd like to hear is is how is the town going to help uh kind of bridge that gap. Um what's that going to look like? I it wasn't clear to me um from your presentation, Michael, what the impact is going to be on the town uh should the override not pass. There's a a big impact on the school. Um and so I I guess kind of to piggyback on what Lori said, I'm I'm looking to see how how do how do we bridge that gap? How do we actually come together and and figure out a way to um to make sure that we're getting the the the small amount really that that we'd be asking for if there was no override.
We have it was something that just came out, Lisa, I think the last two years. It was looking at these gaps, right? And that's data that just started coming to us two years ago and I did a deep dive on that this summer. And so we have those numbers. I don't have them off the top of my head, but it is that gap between our high, you know, high achieving and our low achieving is getting wider. And we are seeing a num more um an increase in the amount of students who don't necessarily qualify for IEPs and 504s. It's just that middle group that are really struggling with basic reading and writing skills that is just going to continue to exponentially to to snowball. And that was that's where the reading specialists can come in and help. I'm going to be very frank. This is the first year when working with my um lower level students I have felt helpless.
Hearing none, we move that board of education approve consent to $10 in favor. I oppos you. >> No, he's done. >> Okay. All right. So that's all right. We have a series now of um things to uh to approve here and I'll I'll try to go through them and not screw this up. Let's see what we can do here.
After receiving uh approval from the street state, we had now increased enrollment from 30 to 120 students each year, opening the door for many aspiring nurses. If you anybody had somebody in their family or know someone that was trying to get into a nursing program, you know, this is difficult. This is four times the amount of students we're going to be able to service. In addition, we've also now partnered with APU to expand the nursing education access. So now students can concurrently enroll at both Citrus and APU credit for credit and clinical experiences. So now just in six semesters they can earn their bachelor's of science and nursing which that BSN is the one that uh many hospitals and places are looking for. Do you have your BSN? Do you have your BSN? So that is now available. Once again, cost-saving. Students can go, we're at Citrus for two years for free.
uh actually meeting in this room three years ago almost exactly. Um Tom Berez who at that point was the area rep for Supervisor Christie. We had a meeting here and it was full and he promised us a public hearing on the uh extension, you know, so people could raise concerns, you know, make sure they're aware of them and see how people would see what the response is. So far, we've not had that. I know there's a meeting on the 25th. I suspect, Miss Rico, that you've been invited to that from what I've heard, but that's not a public hearing. That's more of announcing the project. It's very limited capacity. I think there's 30 or 40 people total. Our residents tried to sign up and after two days after it was announced, but the room was full and we got an email from Green Valley Council saying we have no questions allowed, no speaking.
>> I'm sorry. >> By the by the definition of what you just read joint in district also could have been triple I >> district. >> I don't that's not in district. That's what I was saying >> because it's not in the school district. You're not bringing it in. >> Yeah. >> That's what I wasuding when they bought me in the tail to chastise. >> And I think that's where the disconnect in all of our communication. >> That could and that could be it then now that we get this. >> Yeah. Now that we understand what's going on and why there are two different numbers floating in heads. >> Yeah. >> And does it sound like to me it would behoove us to think about that 400? not for Janine but just if it's a 10-year-old number >> is that is that value added for 4500 if we think >> again I would look at it because I think the conferences either the national or the cost of what both of them is considered national >> I think just the conferences in and it of itself is like $1,000 so if you go to and and triple Y is probably $1,000 too >> per person >> yeah I think I is about $1,000 roughly so if you take triple Y, you take the national, you $2,000 just for the conference.
>> Go ahead, Mike. >> Yeah, I I mean I I do have the rest of my presentation which I I'm happy to go through if you if you'd like me to and if you think that'd be helpful. Um, I I think what I have programmed as an increase in stabilization fund usage should the override not pass is um, uh, a $1.3 million increase over and above. Um, with 1 million of that going to Ashlin Public Schools and 300 of that going to the municipal departments. Um, I believe there's a $444,000 difference between um the 1 million I have and um the amount that um the 3.25% that Jim had budgeted for. Um I'm happy to try to find a way to close that if that's um if that's what you if that's what you'd like me to do. Could we just review um Jim please?
I have a huge there's a big group in that class I feel completely ineffective with because their needs I don't have the skill set to get to where they need and so I mean I've been talking to Rich and Lisa about that and that's that's frustrating. It's like we need this help and I'm hearing that from a number of people. I'd be happy to get you any of those numbers. We have a >> so I think so >> it's kind of an obsession of mine. Yeah, it the slides the slide's not up, but the reading specialist is listed here. It is listed in priority one. It's listed as uh 90 90,000, >> right? Give or take. So, if we were to agree on that, I think that would be very helpful in in bringing that forward to the towns because it, you know, we're going to get the same old.
So the first one is move that the can board of education approve the policy non-discrimination community which is what is B14 first one >> volume 14 >> sorry it's it's the version of that >> oh version okay thank you version 14 to 13 uh count on the first three we talked about this last month they're essentially some word change updates the committee better as long but nothing really changed word so we'll go right down the line first and second Amy you first on the motion second ally thank you very much any further questions hearing none all those in favor I opposed that's 80 motion that the camp board of education approve the policy non-discrimination students volume 29 I'm sorry. >> Sorry, that was I said it all. >> 29 to 28. We'll take ahead. >> Okay. So, having heard that comment. Yeah. So, may I take a motion?
Now we're concurrently enrolled with APU. You know, the savings can be phenomenal for a student and especially a single uh single students who's really putting themselves through college, this is a great opportunity. So if you know anybody who's looking into nursing, tell them Citrus might be the place for them to start. In addition to our nursing and talking about enrollment, another area of Citrus area uh Citrus College has expanded is the nonredit the nonredit enrollment because you know what? We're we're we're all learners. Uh there's learners in our community. Some of us have already went to college and finished or had their jobs and now they're uh looking for something to do. And I have a few retirees that were telling me, you know, I'm a retiree, but I'm not dead. I would like to learn, too. I would like to take a poetry class, a painting class.
So, it's hardly a public hearing. >> And suffice to say, I've got >> Mr. Schubert and I will be attending and it's at 9:00, >> right? Yeah. >> That date. >> Anyway, I've a bit of a pin cushion on our dart board on that for our residents, but you know, so anyway, we wanted to raise the safety concerns and I can't tell you how many people really tal we're not age restricted. We have a school bus about most of the people right here like me and they were really concerned about the students and um we really think that a public hearing a real public hearing would be useful you know so you everybody can find out what's going on. I know a number of our residents have suggestions I'm not going to bore you with you know some are some are better than others. Do >> you know what timeline they're looking at by any chance?
Now, the hotel accommodations and the PL flights and all of that that could come up. So, I don't know. I have to look. I I think I didn't exceed it. I went to the Nationals, I believe, or you and I went to the Nationals, went to Triple I. I don't think I exceeded the $4,500, I don't think. >> But we can look at it. We can revisit it. Definitely. we can see because again >> what the prices are cuz if we're faced in our track on an old 10y old member maybe >> that's true and I want to go back and I want to go back and look at the 10 year you know Dr. Oh, if that was cuz I was here. So, if I voted on something and it did not get changed. >> No, you Yeah. I don't know if you remember when we were in there and I showed you.
What So we're you're losing um 13 positions to start just to try to minimize and then if we go to the if we get to the 1.44, how many positions are lost at that point? Or is it easier to ask you if we only have a million dollars to give you when it if it doesn't pass then how many positions is that? Did I read 20? >> Yeah. So, so let I want to back up with that. Right. So, and because the school committee has not voted on a budget yet and and how to allocate the resources that we have. >> So, the 13.2 positions, as you stated, are gone. Right. >> Right. We're reducing those under every scenario possible. If we were to then get to a a a budget of um 2.25, 25, right? There's an additional five positions that we would have to take out of the operating budget and fund through the revolving accounts.
You're just looking for more money, right? Looking for more positions. Well, we're looking to solve a problem is what we're looking for. it happens to cost money to solve that problem. >> So yeah, if you have that, you know, yeah, we we'll if if we go that route. >> Yeah. So going back to when we moved to this building and the sixth grade came up. Um prior to that, we had four ELA teachers in the middle school, two for seventh grade, two for eighth grade. We still have the same amount of teachers there now in ELA for three grades. So we dropped that double block a day. So the last graduating class who had the two blocks a day was 2018 and we started it's just it's it's more than just coincidence that we start to see those drop offs about 1920 and then COVID I mean the gaps that we have now with the 10th ninth and eighth grade students those students were in third fourth and fifth right and those are the magic years for reading comprehension and it's it's not coincidental that these groups are really struggling right now and so that's That's important.
This motion. Thank you, Kim. Second. Thank you, Michelle. All those in favor? That's eight. Oh, thank you very much. Moving on. So, motion move to the camp board of education approve penalty non-discrimination personnel 28 to 27 first. All those in favor. Thank you very much. Okay. Move the camp board of education education approve the policy on visitors 7 to six. Um a quick comment mainly the big changes addresses the issue of government officials coming to to the door. Uh I should tell you that in a policy they have a first read out next month uh the school safety policy that addresses it a lot more specificity but otherwise it just sets a basic guidelines to visit unless regulations about that. Thank you.
But just to give you an idea of some of the continuing education classes that we have available for people um could be anywhere from uh tax preparation to bartending to drone technology, learning how to fly the drones. I did go to go to the class one time. They weren't flying the drones, nor did they let me. All those years of video games gone to waste now. But those classes are available and they're available for nonredit. they can go ahead and go over there and they can lead. I believe our drone technology is now leading into a credit site as well. We're leading into a credit side where they can get uh those certifications in drone technology. So, we are up and growing. So, if you have a need or you know somebody that's looking for something to do or to learn and to be a continuous lifelong learner, this is the opportunity for them to continue to be a lifelong learner.
>> I don't. >> Okay. Um my guess uh is that I haven't seen any indication they've started the archaeological work. It's fally funded. I think they've got two or three million of federal funds. So you have to comply with national historic preservation. Uh the road cuts right through between two historic sites. One where the TP substation is. I've got the report on that. The other is for Madera Reserve. And we know that that whole area there was a Pok village. uh from the river well up you know Steve near your house and so they've got to do that and I haven't seen any evidence on the roadway there that they you know start to mark it off and do the test trenches and those types of things. So my guess is that you know from a standing start that would be at least a couple months.
>> You showed me something. You show me an email. >> Yeah. They didn't It didn't >> I have to go back, you know, I go back and look at that >> and see just what happened. >> Are we in a financial pos and I'm not saying like this would probably come up a hundred times over every year. Are we in a financial position knowing what we know to start adding additional training dollars? I see Bill shaking his head. >> I don't think I don't think that's Yeah, Jamie. I said we can revisit and look at it. >> Oh, no. Definitely. It was just an open question and statement >> and and we do or don't. >> Yeah. One of our major responsibility is to be good stewards over the finance of the district, right? >> And and and Dr. Hall alluded to too, we want to be we want to have be knowledgeable through professional development.
Right? So, it's a reduction, if you will, of the operations >> by five individuals. But unless the school committee says to me, we don't those positions are going to be reduced, they're not we're not people aren't losing positions. is they're just being funded for one year out of the revolving account. And as I shared with you before, in year two, that money's gone. >> And if it's a, you know, a 2.25, we're looking at a $900,000 deficit. Yeah. >> So the the money we're short basically grows. >> Correct. >> Right. And is also comp compounded in that year. >> That's right. >> Yeah. I mean I I um you know feel obviously I mean I have a background of schools in this community and um and you know also I also have used a lot of town services um and my family has in this community.
>> The invention of the smartphone in 2013 is also interestingly timed among those facts. >> Did you see that gentleman who testified before Congress who's he's done a whole bunch of research on this? When we went to oneonone one tech in schools, there's a precipitous drop off in this. So that's a whole last week across the board. You guys killed a whole other issue. >> So So let's be clear what we're looking for. I know you mentioned a couple times in the LA teacher. We're looking for a reading specialist. a reading specialist that's trained in teaching students how to read, right? Um and and let's be very clear about it. There's very there's not that many of them out there. So, if this is something that school committee we're hoping is going to go go in favor of, we we want to post those jobs, right?