I'm voting no because this is just job hiring and I'm going to bring you the people that you guys will all get to talk to and hopefully form a relationship with. And also, gosh, Andy, thank you for sitting here and listening to all of this and sticking with us. And I'm so incredibly sorry that we're having this discussion in front of you. And I just feel real bad about it all the time. And I just want you to know >> if I'm not if you're going I totally understand and no judgment. So I'll be voting no on this and and I hope that I go forward and do a great job for you guys there. It was it was smooth and easy last time and I'm sure it'll be smooth and easy this time. >> Thank you for that reminder um to not ascribe people's motivations to them.
Or I guess actually we need to nominate that person now because we all have to vote on it. So amongst the three of you who's doing it? I'll nominate um member Webb. Do you accept? I will accept. All right. Motion to appoint member Webb to the screening committee for the business manager. Not a committee. I'm sorry. It It is. It's a screening committee. It's a group. Okay. To the screening group. Do we need to vote on it as a sub committee now? Nope. We need to vote on it as a whole committee. One time second. All right. Um so I've I've made the motion. Is there a second? Second. Second. Okay. Well, we've got All right. Let's give the second to Jenny and um I'm going to call the question. Member Goodwin. Yes. Chair Sexton. Yes. Member Webb. Yes. Vice Chair Childs. >> Yes. Member Geneve.
If you have a question about someone's motivations or why they vote the way they do, you are welcome to reach out to that person individually and have a conversation. Um, I would like to call the question. Please call the vote. >> Member Goodwin, >> yes. >> Chair Ston, >> no. >> Member Webb, I am a yes. Vice Chair Childs, >> abstain. >> Member Dene, >> no. >> Mayor Disorder, >> yes. Uh, member Dman. >> No. >> Sounds like I can't abstain. >> That's correct. >> To me, I see it. Six of one, half dozen of the other. I I I don't see that much of a functional difference one way or the other. So, I'll just vote yes and we'll be done with it. Okay. >> Okay. >> So, the motion passes and now budget finance and warrants needs to nominate someone to be part of the subcommittee.
>> No. Mayor Disorder. Yes. Member Dietman. Abstain. So it passes. All right. Motion passes with one no, one abstention. Moving on. We already did item O. Yes. Moving on to item P. Motion from member Goodwin that the school committee form an ad hoc committee. Can we please move this to April? Please. All right. >> Second. All right. Um let's call the question on moving item P to our April agenda. Member Goodwin. Yes. Chair Sexton. Yes. Member Webb, yes. Vice Chair Childs. >> Yes. Member Geneve. >> Yes. Mayor Disorder. Yes. Member Dateman. Yes. It passes unanimously. Excellent. Thank you so much. We are now moved on to old business. I'm going to make a motion to postpone item A to April as well. Second. Great.
And I would love for you to send the name of that person to roll in tomorrow. >> Or I guess actually we need to nominate that person now because we all have to vote on it. >> So amongst the three of you, who's doing it? >> I'll nominate member Webb. Do you accept? >> I will accept. >> All right. Motion to appoint member Webb to the screening committee for the business manager. >> Not a committee though. >> The screen it is. It's a screening committee. >> It's a group. >> Okay. Okay. To the screening group. >> Do we need to vote on it as a subcommittee? >> Nope. We need to vote on it as a whole committee. >> All right. Um, so I've I've made the motion. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. Well, we've got All right. Let's give the second to Jenny.
Call the roll, please. Member Goodwin. Yes. Chair Sexton. Yep. Member Webb, yes. Vice Chair Childs. >> Yes. Member Geneve. Yes. Mayor Disorder. Yes. Member Dateman. Yes. Passes unanimously. All right. Thank you very much. Um item B is a housekeeping motion from Chair Sexton to rescind the mediation vote that we took on February 19th given the new information about its potential illegality. All right. Second from member Childs. Oh, sorry. Second from member Goodwin. My apologies.
And, um, I'm going to call the question. >> Member Goodwin? >> Yes. >> Chair Saxon? >> Yes. >> Member Webb? Yes. Vice Chair Childs? >> Yes. >> Member Dene? >> No. Mayor disorder. >> Yes. >> Member Dyman >> abstain. >> So it passes. >> All right. Motion passes with one no. One abstension. Moving on. We already did item O. Yay. Us. Moving on to item P. Motion for member Goodwin that the school committee form an ad hoc committee. Can we please move this to April, >> please? >> All right. >> Second. >> All right. Um, let's call the question on moving item P to our April agenda. >> Member Goodwin, >> yes. >> Chair Ston, >> yes. >> Member Webb, yes. Vice Chair Childs, >> yes. >> Member Deniv, >> Mayor Disorger, >> yes. >> Member Dyman, >> yes. >> It passes unanimously. >> Excellent.
Um any discussion on that? All right. Please call Did you have Please call the vote. Oh. Oh, sorry. Did you actually have I also spoke to the uh Attorney General, but I think I think it won't affect what we're about to do right now. So Okay. Member Goodwin. Yes. Chair Sexton. Yep. Member Webb, yes. Vice Chair Childs. >> Yes. Member Geneve. >> Yes. Mayor Disorder. Yes. Member Dateman. Yes. It passes unanimously. Okay. Thank you. Um item C. We obviously made the vote about mediation for a reason. Um but if we can't proceed in the way that we had intended and and we still think that it is a worthwhile thing, then we need to figure out a different mechanism. I'm not expecting us to figure it out right now, but I would love to generate what do we need to know in order to have a better discussion about this in April.
Thank you so much. We are now moved on to old business. I'm going to make a motion to postpone item A to April as well. >> Second. Great. Call the vote, please. >> Member Goodwin, >> yes. >> Chair Ston, >> yep. >> Member Webb, yes. Vice Chair Childs, >> member Deneiv, >> yes. >> Mayor Disorder, >> yes. >> Member Dyman, >> yes. >> Passes unanimously. >> All right. Thank you very much. Um, item B is a housekeeping motion from Chair Ston to resend the mediation vote that we took on February 19th given the new information about its potential illegality. >> All right. Second from member Childs. >> Oh, sorry. Second from member Goodwin. My apologies.
Remember Danie. I had a conversation with the office of the Attorney General and with MASC about this issue. Um I know that there was an article in the Recorder and I know that a member of our public um sent a message to the AG saying, "They're going to violate the law." So, I come from a family of lawyers and that's what lawyers do when they want to make you scared. And so, I changed my language and I wrote to the Attorney General and I said, "Hey, we would like to work better as a body. We have heard that we cannot do this in executive session. Can you please advise us how we should do this?" And they said, "Yes, in fact you can't do this in executive session, but there are all kinds of things you can do as a public body without posting for the public.
Um, any discussion on that? All right. Please call Did you have Please call the vote. >> Oh, sorry. Did you actually have >> I also spoke to the uh attorney general, but I think I think it won't affect what we're about to do right now. So, >> okay. >> Member Goodwin, >> yes. >> Chair Ston, >> yep. >> Member Webb, yes. Vice Chair Childs, >> yes. Member Den, >> yes. >> Mayor Disorder, >> yes. >> Member Dyman, >> yes. >> It passes unanimously. >> Okay. Thank you. Um item C, we obviously made the vote about mediation for a reason. Um but if we can't proceed in the way that we had intended and and we still think that it is a worthwhile thing, then we need to figure out a different mechanism. I'm not expecting us to figure it out right now, but I would love to generate what do we need to know in order to have a better discussion about this in April.
And they would love to advise us on that. And then I also called MASC and spoke with Glenn Koocher who said, "Well, of course you can because you and I both took the training on dealing with toxic people and one of the training suggestions was having mediation with the School Committee. How do you do that? You do that by not deliberating School Committee business. So, if we are not deliberating School Committee business, we do not have to post for the public. And shocker, we can even have retreats where we don't discuss School Committee business. We can have workshops as a group where we don't discuss School Committee business. We can have interactive group functions to become a better public body without having to post for the public as long as we are not deliberating. We do not have to do it in front of them.
member Denife, >> I had a a conversation with the office of the attorney general and with MASC about this issue. Um, I know that there was an article in the recorder and I know that a member of our public um sent a message to the AG saying they're going to violate the law. So, I come from a family of lawyers and that's what lawyers do and they want to make you scared. And so, I changed my language and I wrote to the attorney general and I said, "Hey, we would like to work better as a body. we have heard that we cannot do this in executive session. Can you please advise us how we should do this? And they said yes. In fact, you can't do this in executive session, but there are all kinds of things you can do as a public body without posting for the public and they would love to advise us on that.
We can do it on our own to become better public servants. So, there is a way forward. It's not through executive session, but that doesn't mean that we cannot do it. And there are groups that will help us. Thank you. I look forward to hearing more about this in April. Member Childs. I wanted to make it clear that that dealing with toxic people, though I didn't attend it, that was not editorializing. That was literally the title of the panel. These titles are flashy and attention-grabbing to try to get attendees. In no way was Member Genevieve calling anyone on this committee toxic. It was literally the name of the panel. >> it in 2022. Yep. Uh can I I just want to reiterate what Member I did my charting the course on Saturday. Um and it was also mentioned train you know, trainings. As long as we are not discussing specific items >> specific item agendas or making any uh motions that motions or voting that would be occurring.
And then I also called MASC and spoke with uh Glenn Cooer who said, "Well, of course you can because you and I both took the training on dealing with toxic people." And one of the training suggestions was having mediation with the school committee. How do you do that? You do that by not deliberating school committee business. So if we are not deliberating school committee business, we do not have to post for the public. And shocker, we can even have retreats where we don't discuss school committee business. We can have workshops as a group where we don't discuss school committee business. We can have interactive group functions to become a better public body without having to post for the public. As long as we are not deliberating, we do not have to do it in front of them. We can do it on our own to become better public servants.
And that was from Liz LaFont. Great. Thank you. Um Member Genevieve, would you be willing to forward any email exchanges you had with the Attorney General's office or MASC about this? Yes, I will, but the MASC conversation was via phone.
So there is a way forward. It's not through um executive session, but that doesn't mean that we cannot do it. And there are groups that will help us. >> Thank you. I look forward to hearing more about this in April. Member Childs, >> I wanted to make it clear that that dealing with toxic people, though I didn't attend it, that was not editorializing. That was literally the title of the panel. These titles are flashy and attentiongrabbing to try to get attendees. In no way was member Denife calling anyone on this committee toxic. It was literally the name of the panel. >> I took it in 2022. Yep. >> Can I I just want to reiterate what member I did my charting the course on Saturday. Um and it was also mentioned train you know trainings as long as we are not discussing >> specific items >> specific item agendas or making any uh motions that motions or voting that would be occurring and that was from Liz Leafont.
And I would encourage every one of you to call them anytime you ever have any questions about anything cuz I'm not kidding you, they will pick up the phone. It's not a phone tree. It's their private cell phones, and they will drop everything and talk to you. So, you can all have this conversation with Glenn. Can confirm. Um okay. Thank you. Uh we will return to this item in April. Um to figure out exactly what how we would like to move forward with this. Um I would motion to adjourn. Oh, sorry. Uh if I may, um I was reminded I did forget that Member Webb had asked earlier about the warrants. Are they post They are posted on the city website all the time. So, we will connect the link through that. Is that a correct statement? Yes, the city uses open checkbook, so you can go and search every vendor, every payment, every check that's been cut.
>> Great. Thank you. Um, member Deniv, would you be willing to forward any email exchanges you had with the attorney general's office or mask about this? >> Yes, I will.
Amazing. The more you know. Great. Thank you. Um motion >> Motion to adjourn. Second. Excellent. Um Is Mayor DeSorcy Wait, you forgot Wait, what? >> You forgot new business for next month. >> Oh, crap. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. But we've had a motion and it's been seconded. If you have any new business, please email it to me. Email me your new business. Member Goodwin? Yes. Chair Sexton? Yep. Member Webb? Yes. Vice Chair Child? >> Yes. Member Deneve? Yes. Mayor DeSorcy? Yes. Member Deitman? Yes. We're We are adjourned at 10:43 p.m. Thank you, everyone. >> Mhm.