Um, and so this wasn't so it surprises me then that the height in that district is 30 ft. But >> because that special permit is by us, right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. That was one of the things they were asking for from the kind of from the beginning. So >> did you just hear the architect say 46 feet 5 in? Nope. I think that was Rick just offering what that dimension might be. I'm not sure what that dimension is that GCG is. I'm trying to find a drawing that will show that. >> I can weigh in here. >> So, I can kind of try to solve that. >> Yeah. Hey, Carrie. Lonnie's on. Let's let the architect >> Oh, Lonnie. >> Sorry. So, Lonnie Ash from CBT. So, that 46.5 was the dimension from the lowest level to the roof. When GCG commented and asked us for the mean or the height from the mean grade, we did provide them with the calculation.
So temporarys are the emergency or alternative certifications that new hires obtain in order to be employed with ASDB on a professional development plan. >> And what would the salary be for those folks that have the the second certification? >> The second certification would or you mean partial? >> Well, no. Once they actually achieve the certification, >> once they actually achieve that certification, they would move into the bachelor's, masters or doctorate depending on where they are at at the time of um the requirement of the certifications. >> So the certifications are separate from advanced uh advanced degrees >> could be. Yes. >> So literally somebody who's has a doctorate who's been there 10 years is going to make 66 grand. Well, we've already talked about the problem with recruitment and incentive. So, >> I mean, I I don't I I can't understand that as being realistic to expect to have not only qualified, but anyone be interested in that.
So, for instance, uh, we sent it to at least three. Yes. So, interestingly enough, this is the year when we uh because we do contracts for the auditors uh in fiveyear cycles. This is the year when we are putting out uh the requests for quotes uh for the next five years. And so, uh Jenny Beck, who does this um u sent the requests out to six agencies, okay? We might get two back, we might get six back, whatever. But we have a a a rubric that we use and we you know we keep track of from whom we've heard and what their quotes are and those kinds of things. And that's a really good question, Barb, because sometimes that happens. Yeah. Sometimes we only get one back. Sometimes we get refusals from anybody that we've sent it to and then we have to look again and start over.
So the height from the average grade is actually 40 feet 9 in. And we provided them that chart. So in that response there, they said the chart seems reasonable and that's where that last response was. >> And then what is the 54.5 ft partial two levels in the north elevation? 54.5 ft. I'm not sure where the 54 is coming from. >> That might have been early on. >> Yeah, might have been a We were never over 50. >> Okay. Yeah, >> if you can just make a note um just to send to Jasmine um those written out clearly so that something we can put um if we need to we can put in the condition like what the height from the street, the median height and the um I guess the average height and the the tallest height from the back like I know you know those numbers so it'd be nice for us to they are a little unclear here in in GCG's report.
>> So, I mean, that's the rationalization to it. I get it. that that I mean it seems somebody with a doctorate should be starting at the least with 66 not a 10-year achievement. So I'm I'm just looking at this and I just that's why we're asking it and and Katie made good points and she's well respected. So, you know, we certainly uh start to uh to be even at least myself be even more curious as to what kind of real stepped incentives these are because that again, you know, I understand better than most I understand when it comes to to budget and riffs and the importance when you have deficit uh deficit operations how drastic that can be. I've been on this board for years and I I frankly and I haven't said this publicly. I'll say it now though. This isn't a secret. When you look at 70 acres on the campus and a couple hundred kids, this is something that was was was looking to be ominous for years.
So, um yeah, as long as we have documentation that we have have have done the due diligence, we're okay. Um, and then you can see the others. Um, um, the conflict of interest one was one that I, you know, kind of caught me off guard. Um, uh, because I didn't know that I was expected to look at all those documents every year. Well, now I know. So, every time, you know, each year when people do a conflict of interest, whether it's the board or employees, I just have to look through them, read through them, and and if there are any problems, then do something about it as opposed to them just going into a file. So, um, uh, you know, sometimes it is that sometimes we didn't know we were supposed to do it. And, um, and of course, ignorance of the law is no excuse.
Um so the question then is does anyone have a was there any issues with those heights? We had discussed it previously. I think it'd be important to really see all these numbers in writing. There are too many numbers floating around right now. Yeah, I in my head it's not clear. So, it may be helpful to just see them in writing and then we can >> Yeah, obviously if you can send those send those in writing and I believe if the um to make sure the elevations that we have are up to date. I'm not sure when we if if there's still if all the work since we saw you last has been site work or if there's any more Mhm. >> If the if the elevations have been brought up to, you know, >> Yeah. largely site work. Yeah. So, we can send we'll send the Yeah.
And you know that's not that's not anyone you know Albert can talk to that you know and then we have like an $80 million renovation we're going to do you know where is that supposed to come from you know so I mean what we're doing is survival that's that's simple you know the roll out was rough no doubt about that and still is and we're you know people are saying you're not bad people you're not evil Well, what the hell is that supposed to mean? Nobody's up here with bad intentions. We're trying to do what we think is best, particularly because we don't know the personnel. And that lined up a dozen people here for directors. I've been here 12 plus years or more than that. I don't even know how many were. I probably know a third of them. So, and we're vote, you know, please vote on their on their uh on their increases, their contracts.
So, you know, we get we get our fingers slapped and we take care of it. Um, and I won't go through each one of them, but you can see the the kinds of things they look for. Um, what is training for gifts of 300 or what? Well, this was a new one. Yeah, I'm looking at that going, what is this? new one uh that uh is in the USFR and it came about because of some legislative action and uh and we're now required to prove that we uh that we have a training for every employee that they are not to accept gifts uh of three of $300 or more. Our policy actually says less than that, isn't it? 50, right? It's like $50. Um but the the legislative action and the U and the USFR says that we have to have the training uh for our entire staff.
We'll send an image that shows the elevation. >> Yeah. And put the elevation on the put the elevations on the drawings just so we we have a complete set of drawings that we can refer to in the decision as well. That that reiterates all the information. Um, okay. I think then, unless I'm wrong, Deepo, we're down to back down to 13, which talks about the accessible spaces, but that says resolved. >> Yep. >> It sounds like everything is there. Um, >> the next one was 19. >> Okay. And that is regarding delivery area. Okay. So, delivery area proposed in front of the YMCA. It talks about the non-standard delivery area um at the early learning center. Is that the is that the board board approval required there? >> Can one of you walk us through what that is about? And >> um >> Andy might be able to jump in on this one.
I'm okay with that because we trust the administration to run the operations. That's the way board of directors generally work. here it's a little harder because we don't have opportunities to discuss these things in in regular types of uh of uh meetings or or scenarios but you know these I mean it's hard enough as it is you know that and just when you think you're kind of getting somewhere or it's hit bottom one or the other oddly enough something else gets piled on and you're like what and this is I got to admit this is part of that so after everything the community is enduring ing. >> Mhm. >> And I'm saying this as as uh unbiasedly as possible, and it's been a lot. All of a sudden, you say you're you're getting a stepped salary tears that puts a doctorate level professional at 10 years that's going to be making 66,000 in the year 2036.
Uh one of the good news things is that for much of the training that we're required to do uh by AD or USFR or who whatever whatever agency requires us is that we work with a company um uh that will put a create or already has created little videos and so we don't have to spend meeting time with our staffs going over these things um that they you know there's a five minute video or a 10-minute video. Most of them are most of them are 10 minutes or less. M uh but at this point our employees have probably two hours of more than that. It's more than that of of annual trainings that they have to go through. Uh but it's nice that we can do it in the videos and they can do it even though they're not happy about doing it on their own time.
I think it's it's not required, but we do have an extra delivery area over there. Um, it's kind of an add-on feature, I believe. But Andy, if you're available, I don't know if you can jump in and speak to that a little bit further. >> Yeah. And if I can share my screen, it might help uh just to talk this through. >> Yeah, that'd be great. >> Okay. >> Just a moment. >> Okay. So, you should see the site plan any second now. >> Yes. And I think GCG's comment is relative to um not providing like a designated loading space or loading area for the ELC, but we were planning on using this space in front of the shed as loading. So, it's not really designated, but it's not really a very wellused area of the parking lot. So, that that's kind of the plan.
I mean, nobody would. No, no. I don't that's not what I'm talking about. I mean, I get you, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm just saying that that's not And then we're asked to vote on this. >> How can we, you know, it's I'm telling you, it's freaking rough what we're dealing with here, you know, on an aging campus that has an $80 million renovation tag, which obviously nobody's given us $80 million to rebuild. That's that's impossible. Nobody's given us five million. Nobody's given us a million to even fix the air conditioners because that's not how it works. So, you know, this is an institution which gives it its strange status. It h it is a school. It's also an agency. All those things, but at the same time, none of the of the above. So, it puts us in this awkward situation where a relocation was inevitable.
They can do it on their own time and at their own pace as opposed to sitting in a room listening to the principal at them or Kate or Jen or me talking to them about, you know, thou shalt do these things. Mhm. Um uh so um the company's called Vector and they and they do that for you know they that's part that's their business so they do it for all kinds of schools. Yeah. We have the same thing at the college. We have these 13 videos that you know it's like wait a minute I watched this for 30 some years. It doesn't change. Yeah. Well except that they're required every year. Yeah. They're required. Um and so you can see any of those lists. Um we missed we missed posting minutes for one meeting uh within the time frame. Don't know why it was a glitch.
That's what they're commenting on. And we talk about loading deliveries for an early learning center or even for the YMCA uh as the the main building. What when you when you think about location what are loading and deliveries like for the frame location? >> Yeah. So I can comment on that and if you stay right where you are there you'll see that the arrow pointing uh that says proposed concrete ramp. So, in general, most of the most of the deliveries that come for the Y are coming off of UPS. They're, you know, Amazon orders or things like that, paper towels and and equipment like that. They're not um, you know, not large deliveries. There will be food deliveries to the ELC. And so, right where Andy's little hand is there, um, you'll see there is a an accessible route up to that back door, which puts them right into the pantry of the kitchen.
you know, now when you're talking to the cooperatives and the clusters and all that, you know, that's that's probably aptly named, but you know, we're we're we're uh you know, we're hopefully be able to work through that and these resource rooms and the IEPs and all. I mean, it's a ton of work yet and a ton of ambiguity, but there's also like 20 35 35 blind students, you know, 20 next year or something. So, you know that that's that is a whole different topic, but I'm hearing it also that the community wants input. So, you know, this isn't a regular business. This isn't a corporation where you just make decisions. It has to be part of the community. We're trying to do that and it's not easy. So, anyway, my question was a doctorate get 66. So, so anyway, I'm sorry. I just uh >> um >> I've been on medical leave for six weeks and I think I just had a lot stirred up.
Now he's Oh, it was a glitch. Over from Oh, yes. Dogs to diligent and I I didn't see that it wasn't there. Yep. So, she did her piece, but it didn't get posted. So, um um you know, so they caught it. Okay. Um and you can see the purchase orders. I'm pretty happy that there's was only one error out of 52. Woohoo. Uh that's a big that's a big change um uh over the years. So um uh and we just we start addressing these as soon as we get the list so that we don't we don't have the errors again. Kristen's back there chuckling because once in a while it's something that she has to do or doesn't do or something. She she's not on this list this time. So um not on. So yeah. So all of her stuff was was good. So, um, we're good.
Um, but that's the bulk of it. um any special deliveries that would, you know, be equipment or or or such would either happen, you know, by going down this back access road or be delivered to right where they need to be. Um but the daily deliveries for the Y are just like, you know, you would get at a, you know, small shop. They're not um they they certainly don't need a loading dock of any type for their operations. >> Okay. So, it's not like it's not like at the at the Framingham Y. It's not like It's not like getting the Dunkin Donuts delivery truck in there every day. >> Correct. It's just Yeah. Yeah. Firmingham I it doesn't have a dock. Um everything comes in through the front through the front door. >> Yeah. I know we've provided um relief for that before in the bylaws because there are so many businesses.
So >> that's okay. No worries. But any feedback we get here today, we can obviously go back and look at that. Um there's no that's the process, right? We recommend and the board reviews it and determines from there what >> correct >> action we'll take. >> I just have a simple question really quick. Who who came up with this salary schedule? Where where do any of these numbers come from? >> So the salary schedule the base for the um bachelors is from the original salary schedule and then from there there's a calculation across um 10% between each of the degrees. >> Okay. Okay. But these are numbers that um our agency has already decided has decided on. It's not like the the state of Arizona has stepped in and said this is the salary ranges and we've just picked from that. >> No, all of the um classific classification and compensation for ASDB is done in-house.