I want to be very clear that's a very important issue. But just the cost of yours because one of the reasons for that change several years ago was so philosophical in terms of keeping kids local but also eventually it would save money. >> Um so just to recap your question I want to make sure it was a little muffled in some spots from my end. Um, you're asking if we h like the difference between keeping students inhouse versus keeping them out and is it which one is more have we done an analysis or which one is less and does it still make sense to do it how we've been doing it? >> Right. >> Yes. Again though, absolutely stressing that going out does not philosophically meet that goal of >> um so we we haven't conducted a formal analysis with any types of reports to that.
Four? Just four? Okay, I know you had me on the clock here. >> Thank you. Through the chair, can I just clarify something technical review again? The other stuff is I'll I'll talk about the hearing, so. Um the under adequacy number is a state number, coach. Um that's not my number saying it's under adequate. You've had that number here for probably when you were here as well. Nobody probably said it though. That's a That's a combination of your aid versus your tax levy, etc. So, just so the board's aware that That's That has nothing to do with us. That's a number that's given to us by a formula. So, I think it's important that everybody understands that that includes the aid that you're getting. Um so, just I just wanted to clarify that. It's not It's not really a back and forth there. >> one more question.
Um but I think it's important to understand the cost of of as what another district placement is for one student alone. um which can be upwards to $130 $200,000 for just one student plus the transportation cost. Um and sometimes if a student if we have multiple other districts that are going to the same place, we can save on transportation because they can ride the same van. Um but sometimes that's not always the case. And so when they're in a setting or in a program within the district um such as summit where we can have teachers and multiple students being serviced at a much lower number than receive than paying 150 to you know up to 200 $250,000. It it is cheaper significantly cheaper to have them inhouse and we only try to send them out when when we can no longer meet their needs within the district.
Do you How many students Do you know how many students that are in the um the charter schools? And And comparing to the 13.7 million or the 11.7% increase as compared to what we pay our people um per student? Do we have a number there? Sorry about that, but I I I I need to know these numbers. >> Thank you. Any other public comments? >> Good morning, everyone. Danielle Marcello, 66 Crack Ash Street. Um not necessarily a dig at at any stretch of the imagination, just a comment. So, I'm very familiar with the budget process. I'm very familiar with coming down to a bottom line. I unfortunately or fortunately have a revenue stream. You guys don't, and I appreciate that tremendously. But in the grand scheme of what we're looking at, and this is a principle that I I live by with my teams on a daily basis, we look everywhere else first before we look at positions.
Um, but if there is some formal thing to that that you would like us to put together, I'm I think Joan and I would be more than happy to do so. And I just want to say I heard you say not philosophically, but um, also we have to put the kids in the least restrictive environment for to meet their fate needs. So just want to give that caveat as you talk about that. Thank you. >> I was just going to speak I think >> I think I was just going to say I think the transportation cost alone, we were looking at it one time it was like $600 a van per day. So if it was one child, I think the cost was like $600 a day just to transport them. So just transport alone without paying the tuition, you know, would be a huge expense that we wouldn't have to do if they stayed here.
Someone's livelihood should never be in jeopardy when there's opportunities in other places. Looking at lean principles, tapping into your community, there are so many of us in this community that have backgrounds that could support you. I'd volunteer my time. You want an objective outside look? Call me up. But when we're looking at positions as the solution, what positions? What impact does that have? It's a It's a cost benefit. You have to look at what that money is tied to and what is on the other side of it, and what's that impact? What is that direct line impact? Is everyone functioning at the top of their ability? Do you have people who are highly efficient in those roles? That is what I look at. Just because someone's in a role and it's no it's no shame to the work product that they do, but are they the most efficient?
And the only other question I have was the um HR platform. Is that a one-time fee? And if it is, could we look at our talents on their free cash and do a different request for that? Or is it not a one time the HR platform? >> Yeah, it's not a one time. Um, it's not a one time thing. It's it's carrying over year to year. >> Morning. Uh, AJ Cashy from the Shbury Finance Committee. I was wondering um if you could talk about sort of what process there is for disagregating the costs associated with the the sixth grade academy and how that um either gets compensated to the region or like I'm just looking at lines like facilities utilities I I assume you know some some portion of those costs class um need to be applied to the sixth grade uh academy. If so, how is that happening?
Is there a way that you can look and and again, looking at a lean structure, if you have people who are in a position and it takes five of them, but they don't have a tool or resource that can make them more efficient, where is that done? And so, yes, my insurance went up. I work in health care. I get infected by people every day. You would think that they would not take a dig at our health insurance and raise ours, but guess what? It went up, and I get that. And the cost of electricity went up, I get that. But I think, and again, yes, increases are necessary, but I think perhaps maybe this year we should start looking because it is going to get worse. Health care is going up, I'm telling you. It's my specialty, it is going up. But perhaps now this year we should start planning for next year and start really going through the lean process now so that we don't have to face a potential 2018, 17, 16% increase dangling over our heads.
And um or is that what the rental income is designed to do is compensate the district for those for share those costs? >> Yeah. So, um for for the rental, the cost of the utilities, um the facilities, um maintenance, things of that sort, that will be all a part of the lease. Um, so I haven't I have already reduced the budget for what I anticipate that'll end up finalizing around. Um, and then that money will actually go into a revolving fund. We'll have to set up a separate account and move a portion of the um, utilities onto that revolving fund. Um, so the revenue will go in that revolving fund and then we'll end up charging the utilities to that which will um, have a net effect. But for right now, I just have that amount in the control accounts until we finalize and know exactly how much it's going to be.
So again, not a dig at anyone up here, but just a recommendation that there's a far different view for people who are not intimately ingrained in this every single day that could be a benefit to you all. So, that is all I have. You can tap into me 100%. I'm more than willing. You don't need to pay me. It will be all volunteer, but I do I do encourage you all to look to the community for us that would be willing to give back our time and our specialties. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any other comments? Thank you. A motion to approve resolution 8.1. Mr. Taylor. >> I'll second. >> Mrs. Petrie.
>> So, so just a followup. So, is the amount of that lease being um calculated as a as a function of what share of those costs are going to um to proportionally be be applied to the sixth grade students. Is that how you're Okay. based on square footage. >> Great. Oh, sorry. >> Great question. Um, we didn't hear anything about the capital plan and the capital budget and what the assessments for capital will be in going forward next couple years. Are we going to hear about that at this meeting? And Shen and I have a followup on that question. There are a couple big ticket items um high school roof, windows, um and doors. And the question is both are they priced out in current dollars like 26 or you have projected expense. Second question is, are we applying for the accelerated repair program? Because that's when there's a huge jump for every town when those one is an $8 million placeholder and one is a $10 million placeholder.
Any discussion? Roll call. >> Mr. Taylor. >> Aye. >> Mr. Otto. >> Aye. >> Mrs. Hassan. >> I'm going to vote yes on this preliminary, but I think I've made my position very clear about how I agree with some of the things that were said about some redundancies that we need to look at before positions. So, yes. >> Uh Mr. Kilis. >> Aye. >> Mr. Gabbard. >> Yes, what is >> Mrs. Petrie. >> Yes. >> Mr. Focarino. >> Aye. >> With that, I will reopen it to public comments if there are any at this time. Seeing none, I'm calling for an adjournment. You want to open it? Uh we'll open up comments to the board. >> Okay. Coach, to one of your question about that uh teachers getting paid extra, that had nothing to do with us. That was part of their union, which I think they deserve if they have 28, 29, 30 kids in the class when I think there should be only 24.
They have both. >> Okay. Uh so good point, Mandy. So I can actually So in the document that Sarah Res shared out yesterday at the end of the book, it's like going down to like 120 out of 130 pages, it does have the capital information on there. Um so nothing has changed in terms of the capital projects that we would like to ask for, but since we're here, I will just take the opportunity to share that. Um and again, it is in the end of the book um that was shared. So, for the capital budget, we um for the high school, we were looking for um the domestic hot water heaters replacement. Um those are over 20 years. Um and a adjustment to or a repair of the HVAC in the um room 2011 to a green 205 at the high school. um e-wing roof patching, which is actually something that one of our staff members can do, but we need to be able to purchase um the shingling for that at uh for the high schools.
So, again, that was a union thing that we didn't just decide. That was under the union. As far as a lot of these assistant coaches, we are looking at all of that, combing through everything. Um Danielle, thank you. I pick your brain a lot, and I sure will be doing that some more. And actually, about transparency, if you are lucky to be elected, just remember that song, A Whole New World. When I sat there, I thought it was one way. I came here and realized it's a whole new world. And if you feel we are not being transparent in any way, shape, or form, could you give us a specific area where you feel we're not, or where you feel in a specific area where we could improve or do better? There's a lot of things here we're not allowed to say right now. I mean, everybody knows that.
There's an additional funding for the design work for the girls locker room and the adult bathroom that's within the high school. Um the middle school um elevator needs to have an oil change and we've learned from the high school that oil change is about $10,000 or so. Um so that's a capital request and that's only done every couple every couple years. And then the uh electrical service upgrade at the middle school um which is updating the main breaker and it's original to the school and it's really difficult to to have replacement parts. Um there's also at the middle school the wood shop door um that needs replacement as well and funding for continuous needs for ADA work that arrives during or throughout the school year which is a total of $497,000. Um I on page 129 of the document that was sent out yesterday, it has the capital plan forecast for the next 10 years.
Everybody in politics knows that the confidentiality, what you could say, what you can't say. But like I said, give us a specific thing. As far as number eight school going back years, the school's 100 years old. I am not knocking any other board that sat here. Nobody. But they tried to save money, which everybody tries to do. Uh as far as the boilers, that that problem wasn't even boilers. It was other things that were I don't want to use the word Mickey Mouse, but they were temporarily fixed because they had to save money. Now comes the time where we have to fix it. And coach, getting back to you about the new school being built, thank you to the last boards who were here. You know, that came at the state were very fortunate. There's other towns that would love new schools. Again, we don't say how they're built.
Um, and this is something that, um, I put together in conjunction with D, the director of operations and really going through what we anticipate in the in the next few years here. Um, but the I won't go through this specifically, but you can see the projects listed to the left. Um, then on the last page of the budget book, it has the assessments for this year. Um so for fly 27 I have separated out the roof project and the track and field project. Um in terms of the vet assessment that was something that was brought forth by um Sarah Marsha who also collaborated with us for the capital plan. Um and just because these were two big projects that the um community supported I thought it was important to to show those separately. And then we have the debt for all of the other projects um listed under FY21 to FY26.
They come in, we're going to build your school. Thanks to other boards, we said sure. I mean, you have to be dumb. Is it going to cost us money? Yes. Well, you know, how you going to fill the schools? Don't worry, we will. There's so many possibilities out there that number eight school could be used possibly not as a school. We have a lot of leases on buildings. Possibly, we don't have to do that in the future. So, there's a lot that res It's not There's a We're never going to put 10 kids in a classroom. That's not going to happen. But, there are future plans for that. Thank you. >> This vote today allows us to move forward and look at the bottom line of everything and we have to do this today. Um we don't like the numbers, but we might have to live with some of them.
Then um so this is a total of um 944,000 with AERS at 761,000. Pelum at 29,000. Helms is significantly less than the others because of the cash payment for the uh middle school roof. And then Lever's at 86,000 and Sheetsbury is at 67,000 for a total debt support for FY27. Um so that's just a brief overview and thank you Joe for bringing that up. Um Kathy, I know you had other questions and um if you could just briefly repeat what your question was. Actually, I heard you better without the microphone. With the microphone, it's being really muffled and I'm trying really hard to >> Is my voice clear right now? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, if you're looking at Alge trying to anticipate in terms of a plan, you have two big expenses. One is high school roof at 8 million and then it's windows and doors at 10 million a couple years later.
So, well, we appreciate what the administration is doing to try to sharpen their pencils and uh we're going to do further consideration on that. Uh with that, motion to adjourn. Mr. Garvin. Mr. Mr. Quiles. All in favor? >> I. >> Opposed? Thank you. Adjourned.