If not, do we have any questions? questions for SFA. >> Okay, >> Ricky. So in the in the um measure, the bill transfers school impact fees from Klehi to Alam Moana School impact District um to the school's impact fees sub account for the school's facility special fund for acquisition and renovation of one or more buildings in downtown Honolulu area to develop and expand kind pre kindergarten and charter schools. Can it also be used for renovation? No. >> No. Can we change a language to say that? No. >> No. Uh that's a exaction because it was taken for new capacity. >> Okay. So, it has to be. So, it can't be for any of our existing Khali schools that might need um what about if they needed like a portable or something? >> Uh that might make it because you're adding more capacity. >> Yeah. So, you could do that.
>> So the cooling tower is slated. I have at least this particular one which is behind the high school cafeteria. I do have that as an open project. Uh I would like to say it's going to be about a year and a half. It does take about half a year to make and I'm still catching up on others. So, we're going to have to >> slated. >> Yeah, we're going to have to balance some of those things that we're putting through the the SFB with the stuff that we have on the bond situation. Um, >> yeah. So, and that's a great question because what I think we're doing is the facilities assessment came back at about 48 million, right? And that didn't take into account any of our buses or computers or any of that. So, what we're looking at is if we are able to get these projects through um school facilities division, SFD, SFB, the school facilities board, that will come off of the things that we need to put into the bond.
It's It's tricky to bring, you know, our last order tonight is approving our CMC. So, it's hard for me to start having conversations with the CMC and GM um until you guys approve that. So, >> I just didn't know who was in control of the trigger. >> I I am. >> They They are not. >> They are not. I am and I will work with Gorman Miller and again, if FCI is approved, that will be a a conversation in design phase with [clears throat] FCI. Um also Stifel, who is, you know, our financial bond representative. Um I've already begun conversations with Luke Brogman there, who you guys have met before, um to determine how we want to draw out this $30 million. That comes from conversations with FCI and Gorman Miller. Hey, what's our time frame on construction? When are my big checks going to need to be written?
>> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Sorry. Please stay right there. How do you know how much is in the uh account for the Khi Alam Moana area? >> Yes. Um half a million in construction, 3 million in land, but because of the recent condo boom um in Kakako and that whole area, there's going to be probably an additional 8 million more being collected soon as the units get sold. So that's why the bill we anticipate based on all those construction being sold now it's the balance may balloon up to 15 million soon and that's why the bill has a $15 million transfer anticipating all those funds. See cuz the as the units get sold that's when the fees get paid for right uh so it it'll be a sizable amount of money by next year. >> Yeah. So it's funds that you can actually do something with, >> right?
So, then we can put that money into buses. And so, we were looking at um like the bus schedule, and we'll get to that in just a second for replacing our buses because our buses are in the same state where they're not 30 years old, but they're 10 years old. Um, is is there a way is there a way Mr. Bosley like you know you you mentioned a lot of this stuff kind of got neglected so to speak. Is there a way I mean maybe not for you but for somebody to put together a like you're doing with the plumbing how they're pl coming in every four to six months. Hey, in two or three years we need to be looking at this HVA system and in five years we need to come back and look at this one so that we're not having all of them down at the same time and we're replacing things in a in a rotating cycle again.
I work with them in conjunction with Stifel and we'll determine if we can spread this out a little bit. And those conversations have already begun. Um again, it's a little tricky. I don't like to have those I don't like to make assumptions, you know, by having those conversations before the bond is actually sold or before we're ready to get to that point. With But, those conversations will start in earnest after this evening. >> Yeah, >> just Again, I would Who was the trigger point? >> Yep. >> They or the contractor? >> That's us. That's That's me working with our CNC and and architectural crew. >> Okay. >> Any further discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed? Motion passes. Eric, could you please summarize the resolution authorizing the seventh supplement to master continuing disclosure undertaking and insurance of bonds? >> Certainly, yes.
If we apply it to additional capacity, >> it would be a great for preschools for prek or it would be also great for a charter school. You just have to think of different uses on most of the money. >> So the cut off for charging developers for new development with impact fee is of this past year. Well, that's that's this is just the land component, but they don't pay for it until the units are sold. Right. The agreement kind of says when we sell the units because developers don't have that cash, >> but I'm just saying that. So, is the is the law now that they're going forward any new development of of buildings that had no no agreement would not get would not >> Yeah. It'd be all gone with But you have two two bills, right? One bill was just transfer the fee, let us spend it.
That might be 101 15 years down the road, but is that something that you guys are looking at putting together? I am 100% looking at putting something like that together uh that rolls into a preventative maintenance plan, right? >> And we do we we change air filters every four months throughout the district and that's roughly about $12,000 for an air filter change on all the HVAC units throughout the district. And we do that about every four months. Will I tell you sir that honestly it might go a month or two behind because I'm putting out a fire elsewhere and so things slowly over time may but that is what I want to change. I want to become on a schedule where we are that preventative district and responsible for what we do have. >> Do you feel that the SFB board or the board is being as cooperative as they can be?
So, anytime we do a public bond issue such as the one proposed here, um the Securities and Exchange Commission, the SEC on the federal level, requires a school corporation to make certain promises to bond holders while those bonds are outstanding. So, it's things like um updating your enrollments on an annual basis, your top 10 taxpayers, things like that. Um so, this is just authorizing the execution of that securities document. You mentioned seventh supplement, so obviously this is the seventh time we've been through this. Um for every bond for every public bond issue that we do, this is a requirement. So, this is just the seventh time um with the same contract essentially with bond holders. >> Thank you. Could I have a motion and a second to adopt the resolution authorizing the seventh supplement? >> I'll make a motion. >> I'll second. >> I have a motion and a second.
the other bill um um house went went for it and said let's change it and they modified it on house draft one to a complete repeal. >> Right. So, >> but last year's bill didn't didn't we stop some of the affordable units or some units or >> Right. The problem with last year is this initial bill that now is a repeal was a cleanup bill because the law killed the construction component, but it wasn't clear that the exemption applied. So when it came out, it it was a conflict of law. >> Okay. >> The the bill sought to clean that up. The housing committee decided to just repeal the whole thing. >> Okay. >> Just start again. >> Okay. >> So now you have two different bills, right? one just to transfer fees in one specific district. One to just tabularasa. >> So if we pass the one then we don't need the second bill >> probably you would just sweep the fees transfer to us give us the expenditure ceiling and we try our best to spend it before we have to give it back.
>> Yes. >> Because we've had problems in the past standing in line in between uh some of the management of the SFD changing as well as our old liaison. Um the person that did the job before me, Roger, and several other changes throughout call it administration. Um there is new light and Blue Ridge is is not being looked down upon in any way. >> Do you Oh, sorry, one more question. Do you get any mandates from the state or the federal government that we can't possibly look at being able to implement because we're so far behind like changing filters often or just things that you look at and you say we don't even have up-to-date equipment that we can >> in in some regards. Yes, ma'am. I'm sure we could find examples as if we walked the district. Off the top of my head, nothing's ringing a bell, but yes, ma'am.
Any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> [clears throat] >> Opposed? Motion passes. >> Thank you for your >> All right, thank you. This is the end of our bond related resolutions. Okay. That brings us to item H9. Our CMC recommendation. >> As promised, the CMC recommendation for the board. Um I won't read the entire memo that I wrote up for the board. We have had a long-standing relationship with FCI. We did receive four bids for uh the CMC position with this project. Uh it came down to two. And we went through Steve and I had numerous discussions. FCI has been a valuable partner as you all are aware on our last project with the football stadium. They're they're a local contractor that has been fantastic to work with. They are our current CMA on the pavilion project. Although we did have one bid that came in lower in terms of the monthly fixed expenses, I believe I would love to get this done in 24 months.
>> Okay. >> Clarification. So impact fees not necessarily needed to build new schools but additional units to a school to allow more students. What about facilities on a current school that would bring more students like a band room, music auditorium? I I don't know. Yeah, I think as long as it meets Well, you'd have to check with our esteemed council Randall Watt, but it's additional as long as it's increasing capacity, right? The risk is that a developer sues us and says, "Wait a minute, this exaction doesn't meet what you what you're looking for. >> Band kids, kids in the school that are taking bad. >> Yeah. Yeah, that would be harder. But additional capacity clearly, right? You're increasing the footprint of the school, too. >> Well, I guess what I'm getting at is that maybe more students from the area would go to that school if they had the facilities [music] that that student was looking for.
I mean 100%. I know that I the joke down at the office is that I'm the OSHA violation. I'm the one that stands on top of the forklift trying to fix something. So, yes, ma'am, there's plenty of things that we could be better at. I 100% agree. >> Okay. I thought so. >> Yeah. And some of the mandates too um that we get, you know, there's certain unfunded mandates that we get from the state like all of the teachers needing uh elementary teachers needing the reading endorsement, stuff like that that pull out the general. And so sometimes facilities, but sometimes just other unfund funded mandates from the legislature that we just have to figure out that comes out of the general pool. And um I think from the facility standpoint once again um I want to give Mike a lot of credit because the wheels are starting to turn.
Going through the football stadium renovation, hopefully that will happen. But if we go over just a little bit, FCI will have made that money up in just just the blank bid that they have to give us for CMC. In talking to some of my cohorts, it's important to keep in mind that the bid they give for CMC is just to get their foot in the door. And I'm not saying anything against the other firms in terms of maybe those numbers could be you know, deflated a little bit and may rise a little bit as this project got off the ground. I have full faith in in both companies that our decision came down to. Um but FCI having been in the last project, having donated, I want to remind our community and the board if you've forgotten of and I'm sure Nick or Tyler could give me the exact dollar amount although they probably wouldn't want to >> [clears throat] >> in the number of bricks they donated for our concession building.
>> Oh, for that programming. Yeah. >> Yes. >> Yeah. That would be a little more difficult to to justify. But again, it's just a risk, right, we want to take in terms of litigation. Okay. >> Further questions? >> Okay. If not, that brings us to the end of this. Okay. >> Hello again, Jesse Suki, Deputy Superintendent of Operations. I I believe the question on the past bill is germanine to this bill and it was raised. So, I just like to say that the impact fee money was transferred to SFA. It's a an account that is in DOE because they're an attached agency. Um SFA doesn't have its own. It's managed by DOE. So, I just wanted to make that clear. the school impact fee money, which is the subject of the other bill, was not transferred. Uh, and we we're asking you not to transfer.
Unfortunately, even though the wheels are starting to turn, those wheels take a long time to turn to get some of these. So whether our cooling tower can last another couple years or not, but those are things too. Um once again, if we um look at holistic funding or if we're able to get it funded from here and take the school facilities division money and put it in to where it can put some relief on those bond funds, too, so we don't have to go for quite as much. >> Question. So the presentation, >> go ahead and push your button. the presentation that um that company gave us and the numbers that were provided to us last month that includes everything that the school needs including the things that are currently on the list with this district >> from the facility standpoint. So, what I did actually right here is I broke it down into a spreadsheet um where the original spreadsheet on the presentation last month doesn't show necessarily how it is, but if you look at this, so building one is the building we're in.
I mean, they donated almost the entire amount of materials needed for that. They have valuable partnerships with local industry that I'm hopeful that we'll be able to possibly get some donations towards this project. Being local is important to me. You know, people that work at FCI obviously have children in our district, have you know, a lot of buy-in on these projects and they've been fantastic and saved us a lot of money as a district in the last couple of years since I've been in this position. So you see the breakdown their pre-con fee of 649, their construction fee of 2% was in line with just about everybody and their monthly construction management fee was lower than everybody at 217. So, that's what we're going to pay every month that goes by, we're going to be paying that that amount of money. So, I would bring that recommendation to the board.
>> So, you're saying last year's bill to transfer the funds that the funds were in fact transferred? >> Yes, I confirmed. Yes. >> Transferred into what account? >> Um, they have an account in our fiscal office for SFA. >> Okay. So, Ricky, is that correct? >> Not my laws, but I'll try to confirm that. Can you get back to us in that? >> Unless there's other questions. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. That brings us to the end of this agenda. Um we're now in recess. Good afternoon. Welcome back to the joint hearing of the committees on housing and education. We're back for decision-making on the two bills on the agenda today. First bill is House Bill 1713 HD1 relating to school impact fees. Um, thanks for a robust discussion on this bill. Um, having conferred the chair's recommendation will be to pass this measure with amendments.
Um 2, three, four, and five are these portables. Uh six is the main gym. And so when you look at it, um and I'm sorry, I guess we didn't get this printed for you, so we'll print this out for you and email you guys a copy. But on some of them, so like you have a cooling tower and a boiler and that feeds a lot of the area. So it's associated with building one, but it it feeds um not just building one um the restrooms. And so when you look at like building six, getting the restrooms up, and once again, another concern about the restrooms being older is getting them into ADA compliance. Um, so that they were grandfathered in before, but if you touch them or if you do anything, everything has to be to ADA compliant, so it has to be a complete remodel.