Um, we we wanted to present uh what the mayor and and his office presented to us, which was a request for our district uh to support a 12-year extension. Uh, they provided the rationale, which I uh which I echoed last night. Um, I will say that based on my conversations, it wasn't 100% consensus, so I felt it was appropriate to bring it to the board. Uh, I do also want to note that there's two pieces of information. and one is uh the numbers that uh were provided last night are adjusted. So Jeff could provide a little bit of a of an update in terms of what the financials would be for district 230. Um and I also realized that we have a couple other entities that have not yet met with the mayor's office um which um we discovered late afternoon. Um so um there are several options that I put into an email towards uh to you but uh by law um an extension is granted by uh legislative action um and it would require that all public entities that reside within the TIFF boundaries um provide either a letter of support or a letter of uh willing to accept the the tiff as an extension.
Now a lot of times those students struggle in both. >> I was just going to say what if they have like multiple >> So what we do is those groups are fluid. The language arts teacher might say I need these students today during win time. And what I um what I did at middle school central this year is each team had to give me a rotation for their win time. So for example, everyone does social emotional learning on Monday. Tuesday um was math for a team and Wednesday was language arts. Thursday was social studies. Friday was science or catchup time for um a homework and things of that nature. So we will we will require to have a rotation so that fluid within the school. >> Is it the start or the end of the day, the middle of the day? >> It started the day right now, but um the current model that we have proposed would be after their lunch time.
Chat GPT alone is constantly updating, you know, its platform. So, I don't I don't want us to >> that's part of the issue that, you know, I've long used the Justin Trudeau quote that the pace of change is fast, but it'll never be this slow again. Every day it's like an accelerating pace of change. And um you know that's why it's hard to even nail down one one platform because it's like it would be like when I was a kid Atari being introduced and three weeks later Nintendo came out and then three weeks after that Sega came out. I'm dating myself but like >> you know you you just you're getting a hold of one and then all of a sudden it's it's that much different. But it underscores the point that we need to really prioritize this. >> Yeah. I don't want us to get late into the game because the game's already started and we're just >> Oh, the game has >> the surface tapping the surface.
Do we? >> You would on the home side, you would have to do something for those stairs that people You would have to do something where you enter into the bleachers from behind like the handicap ramp. >> Okay. >> Many times they came down those stairs and stuff right the fence. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> the fence is right up against those stairs. There's even like a spot between the two sets of stairs. >> It's dead. Yeah, dead zone. Yeah. >> Okay. Sorry. >> So, the cost. So, when we did the 2024 master plan, which is really big picture, we did provide some costs for a much larger scale project. I did my best to extract numbers from that estimate. Now, part of my my task on this one is after this meeting kind of finish up this this new round of design into an entirely new estimate.
Are there any questions or comments on personnel items? >> Mr. Pantheon. >> I uh I used to laugh when I started coming to these board meetings and hearing board members talk about staff members and roll my eyes at let's get on with the meeting, but I'm going to do it today. Um this is my eighth year sitting on the board and I've only talked about one employee before. It was Mrs. Buso when she retired. Um there's a couple of soap boxes I'm always willing to get on. Um the finance soap box is one, but we're going to save that for the working session. Um, and then there's three staff soap boxes that I get on quite often because those staff members are quite pro. I'm always on the the Mrs. Brown Signs soap box. I'm always on the Mr. Hoffman soap box. Then the other one's the Mr.
Um so this board is tasked with that. Um it's up to the board to to have that discussion and provide direction. Um, you also have the opportunity to vote. Although, we cannot vote tonight because it was not added after the uh 48 hours uh of posting. So, if the vote was something that the board desired, uh we would put it for the April board meeting for an official vote uh as a resolution.
>> So, who's looking over the other kids and when the teachers giving instruction to >> so they split those? They will be in the other teachers on that team or not team but on that grade level. >> Yeah, it's currently team but it would be grade level. And that's their default position. And if they need pulled out for special instruction, >> yody will go there. I might go to math. Deon might go to language arts, but we're both in the same win class. >> And um it's kind of I mean just getting down to the logistics of >> you know how he was saying Monday is character, Tuesday might be math, Wednesday language arts. Well, if I'm needing to go to a math class or whatever. So, math teacher wants dab. Language arts teacher also wants dab, right? Well, on Tuesday, math teacher wins, right?
>> I just I just want to add um we've been talking about this for a few years now in uh higher ed um environments at the university level. And um you know what what it comes down to also at at where we're at right now is um just making sure that our students know that there are good and bad uses of AI like everything else and just to get them started uh recognizing when it's a good time to use AI and when it is not a a good time when it's cheating you of learning. Um, so, um, you know, there's a lot of I'm in full support of getting the staff on board with understanding um, the uses of AI because they're ultimately responsible for letting our students know how to responsibly use it. It's not just a matter of being good at it because you can take off and and do it.
So, don't take these this number with a grain salt because it's not 1.5 million. So, site prep, synthetic turf, the track and field reconstruction, fencing, netting, discuss gauge, discus gauge, um that's a 1.725 million. And then I put a 15, we had a 20% contingency before I put throwing a 15. We had 20 before I'm throwing 15% on now. So we're we're close to a $2 million project. Um now that contingency will come down with each step of design to where we get to a 5% contingency. We we like to go into any project with some constru construction contingency. Um and these numbers will all change and be refined as we develop the drawings. So our tasks that we're authorized for right now is preliminary design. So we already had a com a kickoff meeting. We're working on preliminary design plans and then that we'll end with a preliminary opinion of probable construction costs for an OPCC.
Delasy soap box. Um, so before Mr. Delazi, I just wanted to to thank Mrs. Green for for all your work at Deacy. Um, Mrs. Fry for for your work at Rice. I went to Rice. Um, and then Mr. Delasy. Uh I I pretty sure the whole board knows the public probably knows too. Um I'm going to age all of us now. He was my eighth grade teacher. Um the only reason I pursued public service is because of Mr. Delasy's class. That was a major inflection point in my life. Um so I I hope that the whole Demacy community, obviously the Vanam parents know, but I hope everyone knows how lucky they are to to have you as a principal moving forward. So congrats, man. Any [applause] other comments or questions or comments? Seeing none except for I do want to congratulate once again Miss Danny Mculik on her new role, exciting role of director of early childhood education.
Um and then Jeff and I could answer any questions you had as Jeff was with me um as we met with the uh with the mayor yesterday. >> Do we want to do questions now or do you want to do that later? We have to have that an open conversation. So if you have a question, Jeff has permission. If he doesn't have the answer, that helps him gather it for next conversation, whether it's here or building and finance or both. >> Jeff, how much uh would it cost us a year? >> And Jeeoff, if you don't know, that's okay, too, because I know we've had >> I'll make it little time to to prepare. >> If you take a look at that, there's six parcels um right now that are part of uh the tiff on our side. Um Harlem Avenue divides the tiff between us and district 218.
So, if if the math teacher didn't want me, I can still go up to my language arts teacher, if that makes sense. Right? So, it's like um Tuesday, math trumps all, Wednesday, language arts trumps all. So, um So our kids are still able to get math and language arts, science, social studies on more days if their teacher needs them to do that. It's just we have those systems in place to say >> which is how the high school does it right now. Like they are home, they have that same teacher, but on certain days they can put in the system, I'm gonna get Jane, I'm gonna get so and so based on priority of the days. So when we're we're talking about Bill again, >> Bill needs a lot of help with math. >> Yes. >> Would there be a scenario where every win class he's out as long as Yes.
And it's not a matter of having um stop gaps put on it um so that they can't access it during school time because they go home after school and they have access to a lot of things. So it's it's the teaching the responsible way to use um our technology. That's I agree. It's available to us in faster than ever every day. Mr. White, thank you. Yeah, I just want to reiterate the um the date that Matt mentioned, February 5th. Um, so I'm not an expert in this field by any means, but my understanding is that that was a critical date in how this is moving forward exponentially faster, increasingly exponentially faster. Uh, so that may end up being a date for all of us to remember, but just to piggyback on what Matt was saying about the seriousness, the relative urgency with which we move in AI in relation to education.
What we also gave scope and fee for and but we're not authorized at this time is to go through permitting if they're going to require any. But we're hoping they're going to see this as a maintenance project. um permitting in 2011 was fairly fairly straightforward. Then we'll finish final design and construction documents. We'll give that final opinion on construction costs, bidding, and then construction phase services. And that's where we just serve as an administrator uh for the school during throughout construction. So >> Kevin, can I just ask what would prevent it from not being a maintenance >> project versus a the the field discharges into a water course. That was one of the things that we had to get through last time, but the last time we were converting from grass to synthetic turf that drains rapidly into the storm drain system. Um, so we're potentially in an upland review, uh, which would trigger inland wetlands.
I'm sure she will be very missed in the curriculum department, but I'm happy for her and I wish you all the best. >> Mr. Yates, can I have a roll call, please? >> Yes. On personnel items, Mr. Dearcy, >> yes. >> Mr. Fischer, >> yes. >> Missionelli, >> yes. >> Mr. Conton, >> yes. >> Mr. Massen, >> yes. But abstension to 10.9 >> abstain from 10.9. Yes to the rest. Your abstension is noted. Mr. Pee, >> yes. >> Miss Moitz, >> yes. >> Mrs. Null, >> yes. >> That motion carries. >> Thank you. Moving on to policy. Do I have a motion to approve items 11.1 through 11.4? Mr. Massen in a second. Mr. Peeleman. Thank you.
So, our side of the tiff, uh like I said, has six parcels. If you take the amount of money that each of those parcels puts into the tiff on their their tax um tax bill and then multiply it times the percentage of that we get. Obviously, there's other u public entities that get money from that uh that tax bill. Uh we are going to receive probably just around $13,400 a year. >> So each year that this tiff goes on, that's the amount of money that the tiff receives that we don't. >> Okay. And this tiff has already been in place for I'm sorry. >> How many years is that? 13,000 times how many >> $13,000 a year. So it's going to be expiring 27. Okay. >> So, for every year after that, it would be $13,000. We don't receive probably plus some increase because the property values would probably rise.
>> But if um if he also needs a lot of help in language arts, right, and language arts was Wednesday or whatever, then he go language arts time. >> Um but also, you know, language arts and math teacher are going to talk, right? And um they're going to make that decision to like if the math teacher says, you know, I know language arts trucks all these things, but I mean, here's where we are right now. He's got some momentum. Let's I won't keep him in all week. You know, so those kinds of conversations >> and it's very skill based. So the scenario that Davin is describing could be the difference between a student who is really strong in geometry those types of standards but struggles with algebraic thinking. So in that case the student would need that additional support for geometry and focus on those standards.
>> I mean, my understanding is Skynet has not gone live yet, but it probably is going live soon. Anyway, thank you. >> Any additional items for the curriculum? No. >> Thank you, Miss Lano. >> I just have a one question. Yeah, I'm so sorry. Um going back um and I agree on all the AI stuff and again Yale higher education I'm happy to bring forward any interesting nuggets points are doing a lot of research on it both from career side but also environmental impact side so I'm happy to share as you know I compile more and more information through my own work um but going back to the reading assessment uh I was just wondering if you haven't yet if you can build an understanding ing of the number of man-hour that it takes to do the pen and paper feeding of the reading assessment into where it needs to go and then kind of keep record of that.
um from a a planning and zoning perspective if they feel like making us go for it. Um but what we always do and what I think is in our phase currently is to get the plans to a certain level and have an informal meeting. >> Okay. >> So we know >> and like that and construction phase services I think we provided an hourly not to exceed budget as needed. >> Yes. Um so project considerations key findings and this this has been our opinion we concluded that it requires a renovation as we've as I've described um the synthetic turf condition your typical synthetic turf lifespan with normal use is 10 to 12 years used to be eight projects products are getting better maintenance is a big factor use we know this is a very heavy use field this field's 15 years old Um, so when I went out today, I I was talking to some of the coaches out there and than some of the athletes, but you guys had a really good product.
Are there any questions or comments on the current policies that are listed here on second reading? Seeing none, Mr. Yates. Roll call, please. >> On policy, Mr. Dearcy. >> Yes. >> Mr. Fischer. >> Yes. >> Minelli. >> Yes. >> Mr. Conan. >> Yes. >> Mr. Masson. Yes, >> Mr. Pilman. >> Yes, >> Miss Bucher Mowitz. >> Yes, >> and Mrs. Null. >> Yes. >> The motion carries. >> Thank you. Next, moving on to committee reports. >> Do we have any committee chairs who would like to present any summary of committees that happened this month? Mrs. I just wanted to um note we had to reschedu the CPAG meeting because of weather. So there is going to be um a rescheduled general CPAG meeting. Um it will be on April 13th at Jagard School. So just be on the lookout for communication. There will be an updated flyer going out.