If it's material, we're going to know. We we we're we're part of all the groups, but sometimes things do slip through the cracks. That are kind of catches us. >> not even slipping like you can't even control that one. Cuz you don't know what's going to be asked of you next year. Thank you. Thank you. If there's no other questions, I'll make a motion to approve. Second. Lisa, I have a motion and a second. Ben Owens. I. Lisa Garcia. I. Carolyn Lopez. I. Patty Catray. I. Our last action item, approve the curriculum adoption for ELA advanced placement Spalding. Dr. Scott. Good evening, President Catray, members of the board, Dr. Loveland, and community. At our last governing board meeting, you saw presentation by Mr. Watson and Dr. Berry regarding the work of our ELA adoption committee. Um there was some recommendations about some additional information and um some additional time for parents to review.
And that's what we're going to do from now until the budget gets approved. >> Doesn't sound like a fun time, but that's what it is. >> So, our starting ask is we could continue things status quo with this amount of money definitely. And then >> we'll adjust accordingly or >> we can't adjust accordingly. don't have a number so >> there are things that I think you know like brings up the preschool bombing >> absolutely that's you know so but it's one of those things where >> did the preschool self could it be self-substaining >> we'd have to charge a little >> there's 33 kids in there I thought about this. >> Those those are the types of things where you know and again as Roland clearly talk about going back to the public hearing of you know the real work for all intents and purposes is starting now and it's the negotiations that are going on that has always occurred >> you know between the >> we have a conversation about charging for athletics is that >> well everything and I say is on the table it's charging for parking right charging for this charging for that eliminating things.
Well, I would think that you would have the assessments and all that whole question ready and waiting. So, that as soon as our master plan or whatever, but to say, "Okay, we're going to do this. Now we're going to go this and it's and it's over here." When you could have had that part done, so that portion can be completed almost simultaneously, but now you're still going to go over all the gathering of the data to to even start. Or that can be done during this period while you're waiting for your master plan. Right? I mean, that's the kind of steps and that's the kind of management that seems to be lacking by the authority. Noted. Thank you. Okay. All right. Okay. Chair, any further questions? Yeah, you got it, please. Thank you, chair. Okay. Thank you. There's no further questions. Next, we'll follow up offline with everyone.
Members, any questions? Can we proceed with the decision? >> to go to Dr. Gucci and let's go. Okay, so first up for HB 469 relating to parking for disabled persons. Chair's recommendation is to pass with amendments. We're going to accept um DE CAT's proposed amendments. Any comments, questions, concerns? Seeing none, vice chair for the vote. Pass with amendments. >> Okay, recommendation is Senate draft one and noting the presence of yourself, myself, and Senator Kenuha. All others are being excused. Any WRs? No. Seeing none, recommendation adopted. For HB 2488, chair's recommendation is to pass with amendments. We're going to add number six for Peter Fitz's testimony to include instructions to a grieved patient on how to file a grievance. Okay, any comments, questions, concerns? Pass with amendments. Okay, recommendation 2488 HD2 is a Senate draft one noting the excused absence earlier. Any WRs? No. Number of members present.
We posted and sent out that additional information, posted that up front, and today we are here to ask that we move forward with the recommendation of the ELA adoption committee for our McGraw-Hill, Savvas um Spalding, and then the publications for AP. Dr. Scott, did we get um people coming in to review it after our last meeting? We had one. And we did? Okay. Good. Yes. Great job. >> [laughter] >> We had one. Vindicated, right? Yes, we got it. Thank you. For your time. >> [laughter] >> 100% increase. 100% And and it was great. We had a wonderful conversation with the parent and it it was really heartfelt and she was super appreciative. So, thank you all. We really appreciate your support. Any other questions or motions? I have one question. Sorry. Sorry, Patty. It's okay. We can be here all night long, Carolyn. >> [laughter] >> The Spalding, just because I loved this as a parent and I don't know if it's included in our purchase, the cards, the Spalding cards.
Nobody wants to hear that though either, right? Because we want to save everything. >> I mean, as a sports parent, you know, your kid plays club sports and you're looking at $200 right there. You end up >> and you haven't even bought >> but you end up spending money on people to collect the money and that becomes in South Hadley, we did that. We charged for lockers. We charged for busing. They kids were making fake passes on the bus. I mean, we charged for everything. Also, we don't turn for athletics for a reason. Like look at hockey and how wonderful our hockey team. >> Hockey is an expensive sport. We don't want to be like you must have x income to play our sports. >> I would support that either. I mean I think >> the more kids in sports the better. And if people hear there's a charge they won't even >> what you collect in many of these things when you collect fees.
Okay. Thanks, everybody. Um Noting time is short, we'll move on to HB 2437 relating to arts education. Um On this, I think there was one testifier signed up on Zoom, Lili Pack. They are not on Zoom, chair. Okay, that's everyone who had signed up to testify. Is there anyone else wishing to testify? Seeing none, uh there's no desk questions up, so with that, uh we'll go into decision-making. Okay. Uh beginning with HB 2592 relating to the Mauna Kea Stewardship and Oversight Authority. We'd like to move this forward with amendments. Um First of all, like to uh adopt the LRSC clarifying amendments on uh MKSOA's um ability to hold [clears throat] property. Secondly, um while we won't um require uh leases to be extended for 10 years, we'll um include the language from uh previously uh moved out of this body uh in HB 2593, which um is a directive to get that conversation going.
Seeing none, recommendation adopted. For HB 2009, we're going to pass with amendments. We're going to remove sections two to four and per disability DDC's recommendation, we are going to create a working group. Members are Department Human Services, Department of Health, DDC Council, Hawaii Disability Rights Council, member of the House, member of the Senate, and technical non-substantive amendments need for clarity and consistency. Already contains a blank defective date and a blank appropriation. Any Bad effective date, right? It's yeah, a defective date. Cool. Shaylynn. Any comments, questions, concerns? Seeing none, chair vice chair for the vote. >> Okay, 2009 HD2 is a Senate draft one of the members present. Any WRs? No. All others are being excused. Make recommendation adopted. For HB 2007, we're going to pass this with a defective date of January 1, 2050 and technical non-substantive amendments need for clarity and consistency. Any comments, questions, concerns?
Do we get those? Do we get more of those? We do and we order we order them on a regular basis. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Yep. Yep. I think last week or our last meeting, we put Mr. Watson uh through the ringer with lots of uh lots of questions.
>> I'll tell you it's it's nominal. >> Yeah. You know, at best maybe, right? If you collect busing fees, I'm making this up. $180 times blankets. I haven't even done that. What are you gonna collect? 10 grand. I mean, something like that. I mean, when when you're talking about hundreds or a million, right? I don't know what it's going to be. >> Many of those things are nominal, as I've mentioned before, unfortunately. Right. That's the savings or where you're going to make up the difference is through either drawing from your checking account or personnel. That's really where it comes. And we don't want to overlook postage or different small things, right? >> How much money you got, Andy, in revolving accounts. >> You got a million. >> No, let me let me see. >> You got 500 and something for the preschool to throw at the preschool.
Um we'll add in the language also um relating to reversion um upon uh completion or non-completion of the transfer by date certain. However, um not due to the conversation that we had here in this room today about um process and timing, but solely because of um the let's say uncertainty within some federal agencies, uh we'll uh make that threshold for that drop-dead point um additional 18 months out to December 1, uh 2029. Um uh which then will mean things uh revert back um per the the schedule in question um by um Finally, uh we'll note in the committee report um uh we'll ask the AGs as well as other stakeholders uh regarding the CDUP question uh to help weigh in, and we can hopefully clear that up as we go into the next committee or set of committees. Um I know there's I know there's a lot that needs to be worked out.
Seeing none, vice chair for the vote. >> Okay, recommendation 2007 HD3 is a Senate draft one of the members present. All others are being excused. Any WRs? No. Seeing none, recommendations adopted. For HB 1518, we're going to note that there's already a pilot program. So, we're going to pass this with amendments. We're going to change the effective date at the end of that pilot program which would be February 28, 2027. So, just changing the effective date to February 28, 2027. Any comments, questions, concerns? Seeing none, vice chair for the vote. >> Okay, recommendation 1518 House draft one is a Senate draft with a new effective date. All of the members present. Any WRs? No. All others are being excused. Seeing none, recommendation adopted. >> With a new effective date of February 28, 2027. Whatever you said. Whatever I said. Thank you. HB I'm just repeating your recommendation.
Um so, I personally don't have any questions, so uh I'll make a motion to approve. Second. Lisa, I have a motion Ben Owens. I. Lisa Garcia. I. Carolyn Lopez. >> I. Patty Catray. I. All right, our last item. You're welcome. Adjournment. Motion to adjourn. Are you sure you don't want to have a discussion about it? >> [laughter] >> I have a motion. Do I have a second? Second. Lisa, I have a motion and a second. >> Ben Owens. I. Lisa Garcia. I. Carolyn Lopez. I. Patty Catray. I. Meeting's adjourned at 8:02. Thank you.
>> Because they don't want to be closed. >> That's exhausting. Oh, >> that's okay. That's fine. Do it. Okay. So then what's next? You got anything else? Your computer has >> I think what are you asking? Empty the checkbooks all >> Yes. Can you >> Oh, you in there is the question. >> Are we emptying all the checks? >> You've already >> I think you got to be careful. >> I wouldn't empty all the checkbooks. >> I'm not a voter, right? You guys voted, but you got to be careful on that. >> I mean, don't empty your checkbook at your house, right? >> Maybe you do if you have to. >> And does the city do what you got? what does the city have you know says that type of thing or what's good for the groups s but yeah I mean if you were to look at the projected balances yes there would be there's a million dollars but you know it's that balancing the short term with the long-term sustainability challenges that we're going to have now don't get me wrong I always when I do trainings with school committees I always do say these times we find ourselves long range planning is year to year you know so >> well this is I think year to here because the B I don't think >> we're already reducing our overall those for I saying you know I'll go down individual school choice is being reduced 51% from the beginning of this fiscal year I >> think I have this right now >> correct >> sped tuition is being reduced 76.57% transportation 31.83% overall it's a 30.87% 87% reduction.
Um time is short, so folks will really have to come to the table on this if it's going to proceed. But for the moment, uh we'll stop there. I'll note it already does have an effective effective date already in the bill.
That's all. HB 2208. Chair's recommendation is to pass this with amendments. We're going to just um change it to include an effective date of upon approval and we and an amendment of reports being required to be due prior to the fifth 2029 and 2030 session. Except for section two to be effective on July 1, 2028. Any comments, questions, concerns? Seeing none, vice chair for the vote. >> Okay, recommendation 2208 House draft one is a Senate draft with the members present. Any WRs? No. Seeing none, recommendation has been adopted. And for HB 2096, we're going to change this to pass with an effective date of upon approval. Any comments, questions, concerns? Pass with amendments. Chair votes aye. Recommendation 2096 HD2 is a Senate draft of the members present. Any WRs? No. All others are being excused. Seeing none, recommendations adopted. >> And with that, the HHS only calendar is adjourned.
Circuit breaker is an actual increase. >> I touched that over, >> right? Because that's by statute. So I would agree with you. >> Shoot. >> Right. So that 16 though is factored into 30.87% overall. So it's actually far worse because you know when you're talking about an overall reduction. >> So your answer to is there a million dollars? There absolutely is. But if you're taking the if you take circuit breaker out of it, you are going to end up leaving 200 some thousand out of all four of those three of those. >> So the districts around us I have not seen anybody going in with 7%. >> So and also keep in mind last year we were level funded not level serviced. So, we didn't get a 3% increase last year, which was >> So, you think the school budget should get a 3%? >> No, I'm just saying like we didn't get an anything last year.
So, any discussion or comments? Hearing none, um acting vice chair for the vote. Okay. Chair, voting on um Sorry, members are voting on HB 2592 HD2, recommendation of the chair is to pass with amendments. Chair Lee. Aye. Senator Inouye is excused. Senator Chang is also excused. Senator Dela Cruz is aye. Senator DeCourcy. >> No. Chair, your recommendation is adopted. Thank you. Okay, same recommendation for the Committee on Education to amend to SD1.
Aloha mai kakahiaka and good afternoon. Mahalo for joining today's AEN HHS EDT hearing. It's Wednesday, March 25th and we're convening in room 225 in video conferencing which includes the audio and video of remote participants. It's being streamed live on YouTube. In the unlikely event that this hearing is cut short, the committee will reconvene to discuss any outstanding business on Friday, March 25th at 3:01 p.m. in CR 224 during AEN's time slot. And because of our we're running a little bit late here, we'll be having a one-minute time limit for your testify your testimony. And there'll be a virtual countdown on the Zoom. So, we have one measure and that's HB 1618 HD1 establishing and appropriate funds for cesspool conversion. Revolving loan fund to be administered by the Hawaii Green Infrastructure Authority to provide financial assistance, including low interest or forgivable loans to eligible eligible homeowners for the upgrade, conversion, or connection of cesspools.
>> So, it'd be making up for >> So, it would be making up for what it would have gotten the previous year is the way I look at it. >> It never works that way. I'm >> doing this a long time. It It doesn't work that way. I mean, people get a 3% raise, which is part of our issue. There's like 868. >> There are places that will what they end up doing, I say in the same way that the municipal side is limited by the two and a half% increase every year because of Prop 2 and a half. So to >> member Leb's point, you know, is there is there that same concept where at a minimum theoretically we should have at least seen a two and a half% increase because two and a half is what everybody >> do you see Walmart do you see market basket I'm not disagreeing I'm just saying that that that that is a >> they got nothing a budget cut >> the point the point I'm just trying to make is that there was no percentage increase last year, >> right?