So, 9 to 5 is our current score here. Ashland uh is the nine, which is fortunate. After scoring five in the first quarter, it's the the offense has slowed down a little bit, but uh they're being kept in the game by Alana Duffy and her 11 saves. And I would say that the draw control has continued to be a a positive uh effect on it. I've got four for Peyton. I've got four for Forester. And another three for Vitti. So, that is that is an important part of the game. I'm I'm sure they'd like to eliminate some of those turnovers and particularly here with a lead, slow down, take some time in the offensive zone, kill the clock as much as possible. But that will not be possible if you're turning the ball over, so patience is I'm sure what Coach Blasi is preaching right now.
It's like, you know, not allowing us the legislative board to be able to understand what was the actions of the board and if it's in keeping with what we want. Um the other the other area is on the moratorum. Um, you talk about cost as an issue. And so in this in the case of C counseling, we didn't have a program in Hawaii. And so, um, teachers had or or people wanted to be counselors had no other option to be able to get that program and get that training. And so finally, Shamanad put the program together. But Shaman is a private university and it's very expensive. And so that option was Spalding University, which I visited when I happened to be up on the mainland. And um they're nationally accredited, they're affordable, and they're flexible. I mean, they have all those options. And I'm not sure why in in those cases where Hawaii lacks lacks having a program and lacks having an affordable program that's flexible that you folks would not consider this this program this EP um to to to be to allow them.
Has that been calculated? And if so, what does it look for our taxpayers? What are we talking about laying off teachers as you stated, it is hard to find teachers. When we find them, we need to pay them more. So, we're getting rid of teachers just to hire more next year at a higher rate. The math isn't mathing. It really isn't. And the second question I have is if the state aid was reduced next year, as it has been around many other towns, how much taxes need to increase just to maintain the same level of spending? I could tell you with just simple math, if it dipped to our emergency saving funds, we would have to increase it about 15%. The largest Garfield would probably be seeing, honestly, in history. And hopefully, you guys can answer my questions and not leave it to the super.
That way when they go back, they do take their vacation, they come back really well planned. Uh we're excited for this opportunity. I think we had over about 50 people put in applications for best instructional practices and it's neat to see our teachers that we took to Vegas last year really come into their own and say, "Okay, now I'm ready to present to my peers." which was really our overarching goal was to build capacity. Uh so, we are excited for summer workshop. Teachers are paid at a per diem rate. That means everybody's paid differently depending on what pay you get per year divided by your number of days. Uh so, it is lucrative to teachers to attend summer workshop. It also benefits them. I will add um as usual, all the governing board members are invited to any of those days as you were the the PLC conference.
So, I think there's some details that we need to work out. The other thing is with the change in the laws that Mr. Major referenced, the Well, even with this policy, the the proposal in the policy is to run a policy from July 1st through June 30th. We have plenty of time between now and that July 1st date that the reporting would start with this policy. So, I am still very much in favor of having a work session, which I would hope we could schedule before our next meeting and hash out some of these things before we vote on the policy. Yeah, I had great hopes that we would have scheduled the meeting before this meeting. The original policy draft was provided to every school board member On February 3rd, Dr. Phillips reached out and asked if we could work together. On February 14th, I sent my final draft.
Once this certificate of compliance is issued then then this these all go away. So um then it is an enforcement action if somebody tells us there's something going on on that property that shouldn't be. Um but I'm sure that's not going to happen. you know, you've you've designed a project that is um in keeping with our interests and in protecting the wetlands. So, I'm I'm expecting that it is going to be fine and that there's not going to be any issues. >> I'm knocking on wood. >> All right. uh to the commission based on conversation. I've just changed that middle section to say the Ashlin Conservation Commission reserves the right to require additional corrective measures if deter determined necessary determined necessary to restore compliance or protect resource areas in the interest of the wetlands protection act. I think that includes some of the applicants language as well as maintaining the intent of the commission there.
You know what's keeping me in the game, Kev? Tell me. My delicious steak and cheese sub I had from Marathon Deli. Oh, I've been >> order online right now if you want. marathondeli.com. Support your local shop and sponsor of the Whack TV. Get yourself a maybe maybe a Hiller Quacker Sand- sandwich. Who knows? Nice paninis, little warm sub, cold sub, whatever you want. Chicken tendies. Available for catering as well. Oh, yeah. Proud sponsor of the Whack TV and our local athletes, so we appreciate them and all they do for us and and not just the actual lacrosse team, but all the actual athletes and teams all year round. So, thank you Marathon Deli. Thank you very much. We appreciate your support of Ashland sports and Wakka. You like that segue Kev? That's pretty good, right? >> That was very good. I didn't know where you were going with it.
And so you're telling us the moral is going to the end of the year and they have to wait even longer. So currently well like I said we have one person who's putting together who does the uh the pro that helps to to uh lead the program reviews. So when she has to put the panels together we do have one right now through Monoa that they're putting through for their counseling program. So, we're in the process of also reviewing theirs and by that time when we can um Yes, then we'll definitely we can look at opening it up to any outside uh >> Yeah, I'm sure. But I'm talking about now and and in the last year why that because I went to visit Spalding what a year ago maybe longer than a year ago that I went to visit Spa over a year. So, I'm not sure how long it takes to look at individual ones that specifically show that we have a shortage in in Hawaii to give to give our teachers or our those that want to go into counseling an opportunity to get that program and get it at an affordable rate at a flexible time that they can do it because we don't want to take them out of the classroom because we need them in the classrooms as well.
Also running. Question isn't for him, either. Through the Through the chair, please. Marlena 67 Morris Ave, Garfield. Um I'm curious about the charter school cuz for example, I think Tomko, you said there's 684 kids in charter school. Okay, so 668, but on their budget, what they post, they are counting that we have 1,190 kids from Garfield in their schools. Also, I'm looking at like a year before, year 12,508 Well, 12 million 518,201. That's what it says that you guys paid them, but on their documents, it says they received 12,370 Uh oh, I'm sorry. The um 384. So, your math is not matching the charter school math. So, I'm just curious if there's ever like an audit because it it just doesn't match. Like that's that and then this is from their budget. No, cuz you're like saying changes, but that's where I got it from.
It's it'll be a great great time to see our our employees in action. So, you're all invited. Uh secondly, we are trying something new the week after the 2 weeks after and it is called summer learning. As opposed to summer workshop, which we really expect for about 80% of our staff to attend, these are smaller sections uh sessions really focused on our needs for next year and building adult adult learning. Uh it is paid hourly and our sessions will be on June 1 through 4 called the math behind the standards targeted at teachers in grades 6 through 8. We know some of our lowest math scores occur in grades 6, 7, and 8. Uh sometimes we don't have teachers that that do as well as we can in 7th and 8th grade probably with the standards and the depth of complexity of the standards. So, we really wanted to provide some scaffolds for them and some learning for them so they really understand what is the math that goes into that.
There were no other emails to me from February 3rd on to today advising me anything of what they just said. Um there was comments made last week after an executive session that this would not be on the uh meeting for tonight um because we had to look at the law more. The law really only states that uh the reporting structure would go from the Department of Labor to the Department of Education. That's a very simple thing to fix inside of this policy. I think the root of the policy was to uphold what had previously been done, which is look at no different than I wish wish Mrs. Weldon was here tonight cuz she could speak to it from an industrial perspective. Uh in industry, uh manufacturing facility, if there is uh what's called a near miss, that near miss is used for continuous improvement efforts to identify how to keep that near miss from becoming what would be called an OSHA recordable.
Um, if there's further changes or you disagree with that, speak now. >> I'm fine with that. >> I I would like to leave at reasonable times off. Uh, if there's, you know, huge storm in the middle of the night and somebody needs to go out and look at it, let's >> That's fine with me. I was thinking of the same thing. I mean, you >> I think that would be reasonable, but somebody else might not. >> That would be reasonable. >> Yeah. >> I'm sure everyone's going to act reasonably. >> Yeah. I mean, your your construction guys are gone home and this has happened to us in the past on other sites where it's a weekend or it's after working hours and people have left >> and it's we get a downpour and then the site goes to hell and um nobody's there to do anything about it.
I was a little nervous at first, quite frankly. Kev, don't make it all about me. Yeah. >> [laughter] >> Me and my my my appetite. Well, I tell you I'm you know, it's a little closer than I would have hoped 9-5. I think coming into this uh fourth quarter, draw control very important. Not dropping the ball, very important. Picking up ground balls, also important. If you're Ashland, you've got to be confident, but you can't be overconfident. At this point, Norwood has scored five goals in the game. You've got a four-goal lead. Do they have the offensive capability to score four in one quarter? I'm sure they do. But if if Ashland continues to do what they need to do defensively, Alana Duffy continues to make save after save, the the opportunity for their first win of the season is there, but they they still have to execute.
So, I think those are areas of of my concern. How many teachers would you say that you have spoken to personally that are opposed to the out ofstate program? >> When you say opposed to the out ofstate program, it's not that they're opposed to any programs. It's just that there's a lot of things that and it's not even the out ofstate ones as well. It's just uh issues that are coming through where we're talking about the quality of uh people coming through the programs because we know that you know again um when we look at um >> sorry >> okay let me just stop you right there because uh to be a to put a moratorum over it which is the point that I'm making is so dramatic um and really it closes off any option of any further discussion You're putting a hold on everything for it to be a moratorum during as my colleague had said we are in a teacher shortage crisis a crisis.
But you don't have to answer, but in the few in the My thing is, there should be some sort of audit cuz your numbers are not adding up to their numbers. And that's a lot of money that could be here. It might be just, you know, miscalculations, but that's like 400 kids. Um and then I'm questioning your math cuz I'm just confused, but I could see the board this thing at your office tomorrow. Because when I look at this per pupil thing with all the salaries and benefits, the administrative salaries and benefits, the maintenance salaries and benefits, uh with benefits, this thing comes out to like 108,341,948, but from the salaries you sent me the other day, the Garfield teacher salaries, including yours and maintenance, that whole list, that's only $53 million. So, I'm just questioning how you got the number, but I'm assuming I could see the budget tomorrow.
Uh an example would be when I taught math uh to 9th graders and I taught uh square roots, I taught it with nine, we got a three and a three, the two became one, and they went out of the house. And I had a teacher who was a grade level above me who told me if I ever did that again that we would have problems because there's a reason things work square. So, we really want them to know that it's a 3 by 3 squared and that's why it is the square root. Uh so, we will be teaching what is the real math behind the standards and not just tips and tricks to get kids through the test. On June 8th through the 11th, we are doing two different sections on direct instruction and active engagement. As you know, our models for next year, we are moving to a more I do, we do, you do a guided practice direct instruction model.
Uh for us, we are doing a report that says there was something that happened to a teacher where a teacher was hurt harmed or injured by a student and that report would be the similar of the near miss. When we have a workers' comp, that would be similar to an OSHA recordable. The request was for us to have regular reporting monthly as a school board on the aggregate number of those incidences that occurred during the month to have some form of uh reporting at the end of a semester and at the end of a school year so that we could plan and prepare on how to improve our processes, procedures, and environment in the in the education area, whether it's in the classroom or outside uh to ensure that our teachers are in a safe area and that they are not getting hurt. We've seen numerous uh cases, at least I have.
So >> through the commission for the benefit of the applicant, uh, conservation staff go and do inspections every time there's a quarter inch of rain in 24 hours. I think more than a certain amount within one hour. Um, even on weekends and early morning and late night as long as it's safe to do so. >> But we're all set. >> We're all set. Yes. Uh moving on, the next change is in 27 the pre-onstruction meeting. Um I see the applicant adjusted the numbering here for which condition is being referred to. Um I'm just going to highlight that all these numbers are going to change by the end. So we'll correct that um at the very end. Um some minor spelling and references. Um the final change was the applicant had um suggested excuse me removing the requirement at the pre-onstruction meeting for all individuals present to sign each page of this order.
So, we'll see how this one starts. Haven't seen a lot of pick and roll draw and dumps. Nothing really happening in the offensive zone, just mostly people catching on the outside of the eight and and trying to break through the defense. It'd be nice to see some teamwork and some you know, picks, some give and goes, some draw and dumps. And just those are those are the things that really get people open in the and not to force a draw and dump, but just to to see it happen, you know? If it's not there, don't pass it. But at least at least practice it and get it get part of the game. A wise man always says it's the second cutter. That's the important one. Third cutter is also important. >> Yes. If you can pull it off, but you get the second one always is first first cutter clears out the defense, second one comes through for the wide open lane.
This is as worse as our state has been with the lack of teachers in the classroom. And so right now what you're doing is you're telling the teachers that are within this process that are coming up on their third year wanting to go into their fifth year that okay all of the work that you have done we're just going to negate it. We're going to throw it out the door. Doesn't even matter. Maybe you can start all over again. And so right now we have classrooms that have zero teachers in them. They don't have a sub. They don't have a EA. They have absolutely nothing. So, do you think it's better to have a teacher that's going through the process or no teacher at all? >> So, for the ones that are going through the process if they need to uh if they come to us and they ask us, there's things that we have in place so that we have issued forth um emergency hire permits.