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>> So I actually think that it does continue to run with the land because uh it's part of the on&m plan and the on&m plan is an ongoing document um by design. So that um we we didn't intend for it not to be a perpetual requirement. Um, we just thought it was more appropriate here. >> We should at a minimum state that uh you're not just submitting a plan uh that it should be part of uh a long-term invasive species management plan as part of the operation maintenance plan. >> Otherwise, it's just some amorphous plan and it's a plan. >> Completely agree. We we completely agree. We were trying to take a light touch and not make more red line, but we agree it does belong in the O andM plan as all you know all in one place along with the ongoing monitoring and uh maintenance provisions within that plan.
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Um, and so I appreciate people like that, you know, and I I do think that I'm like I said earlier, like I I I really pride myself on finding good talent and like Dr. Suarez had said, um, I take full responsibility for the ones I hire. Um it's sometimes the ones that come in and aren't doing such a great job that we have to utilize um our own systems to to you know figure out what is the best thing for them. Um but we have access to those things. Um we have the ability to do those things. Not all principles may have the same um I guess uh selection process. I don't know how else to say it, but um it's one of the most it's actually the most important thing that you can do within a school is is hiring the right people. Um sometimes we don't have the people with the full credentials to actually hire because we're not in an ideal situation.
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>> So that has been added uh as Preston described. Moving on. >> Yep. Condition 46 is a new condition um regarding the replacement of the 12 in RCP located in Waverly Street. This is a long condition so I will just summarize and I'll zoom out a little bit so you can see the whole thing. um essentially explains uh that the new pipe uh its location, how it shall be installed to not impact the structural integrity of the stone box culvert that it flows into. Um the applicant's proposal is for this to be submitted to DPW for administrative review and approval. Um the proposal from myself was that it also is submitted to the conservation commission and that it's not an administrative review and approval, it's a regular review and approval. Um as that uh pipe also passes into the buffer zone of a jurisdictional stream.
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But um it makes it it makes it really difficult when um when we have to say goodbye to just start all over if if their term is up. How how many times can one take the practice? >> Um, a lot of times as long as they'll pay for it. >> What does it cost to take the >> Oh, I think like about $90 each time you take it. >> Yeah. >> No, somebody's taking the You have an answer to that? >> It's It ranges between 90 and 180 >> depending on the test. >> Depending on what the test the type of test >> type of Oh, they can choose. Oh, depending on their area of of activities that they're going into. I see. And then they have to do it within the three-year period. >> Yes. To to take that test as well. Okay. That's another fast.
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Um and the stone box culvert itself is a naturally naturally occurring stream that is culverted. Uh and it would be the commission's jurisdiction to ensure that any um replaced existing storm water features that are in those areas um comply with the uh relevant regulations. Uh the applicant did have a copy of the plans shall be provided to the commission forformational purposes concurrently with delivery to the DPW and that um approval and permit issuance shall not be unreasonably withheld or delayed provided the plans are consistent with the approved plans from this order of conditions. No details for the pipe has been provided to the commission. So, I'm not entirely sure how um the conservation office would be able to determine compliance with the plans if we have nothing to compare them to. Um, >> this this plan list that you gave us, >> it it has a stamp date in it and they all say either NA or ND.
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>> It's another stressful thing. Taking tests is not always easy. Okay. It doesn't necessarily measure, you know, how good you'll be in the classroom. >> Questions? No other questions? Okay. Well, thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh our next gubinatorial nominee is GM654 uh for consideration to the Hawaii Teacher Standard Board, Daphne Okunaga for a term to expire 6:30 2022. Aloha Daphne. I am going to call and see if there is anyone that uh wishing to testify. Um Keith Hayashi seems to not be present although in person. We've had we have 14 in support. All of these names I'll read off. If you're here, you can come up. Uh, Linda Furuto, uh, Brandy Yagi, Don Taba, um, Tammy Yun, Reena Rabago, Dana Tanigawa, Leanne Lane, Lane, Satak Satakara, Malama, Malama, Ada, Blake Oiro, Joseph Hoffman, Sean Kanoi, Christina Rossman, and Patricia Ishihara.
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And don't we need a stamp on the plan set that we're referencing? >> They were >> uh the they are stamped. The stamp itself was not dated. >> Oh, okay. Jennifer House stamped. Okay. But it doesn't have a date. Is that right? >> So ND is for no date. >> Not not dated or Okay. >> But plans date. Yep. >> Yeah. The the issue log states the final date. >> Oh, the final rev date. Okay. >> Um Okay. All right. I was just looking at the last column and going, "What's an ND mean?" >> Um on these plans, um I guess it might be the utility plan. Does it show the culvert replacement? >> It shows a line um depicting the culvert. It's on uh details five, details V. Um I have the big plan set on the table here if we need to review it.
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All in support. Anyone else wish you could testify on this measure? If not, Daphany, welcome. I know you're on the mainland. I don't know what time it is there. 5 hours difference, I think. Is Texas 5 hours or six? >> Yep. So, if you hear my stomach rum rumbling, I apologize, but I haven't eaten dinner yet, and it's uh 7:50. Um, but I I'm so sorry that I couldn't be there in person, but uh we are here with the state math team at a math conference seeing how we can move math forward in our own state >> and she did tell me in advance that she was not going to be able we weren't able to move the meeting. So appreciate you >> and our state isn't paying for it. The Dana Center paid for us to be here and we got the ethics approval.
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There's detail A1 that I've just been notified about uh which was added March 12th. >> So this should Well, do you want to bring up the plans maybe >> long before March 12th? I see that that enlargement was has been there since at least uh February 12th, not March 12th. >> It doesn't have a detail of the trench. The the um stor the storm drainage trench detail appears on detail C7 on sheet C503. Could I um maybe just sort of explain our uh rationale for the modifications that we made um to this condition. >> So essentially we we sort of agree with the the process um as generally laid out. So the commission has and through its peerreview consultant has reviewed um the impacts uh the storm water impacts from our project. So we've talked extensively about the fact that we're not adding any net new flow through the culvert etc etc.
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>> That's good to know. Thank you for voluntary. Yeah, you understand what's going on with our travel moratorum. So thank you. So, opening remarks. >> Um, thank you. So, after starting as an emergency hire at Pearl City, I was there for 19 years teaching math and business. And in reflection of this moment, I don't think I fully understood the um the teacher shortage uh because I was kind of uh shielded from it at Pro City. We we don't have a huge amount of turnovers in most of the years that I was there. Uh but now that I'm at P20 and I'm you know visiting nonawahu schools and I'm talking to other schools across our state and our pathways work um I it was just mindboggling to me um the shortage and while that is not great news I also see um huge potential for our state um when things when people are collaborative you know the dive into education event by the way you're all invited next year um the dive into education event um you know is is Um so was started by Tammy Unun at Pro City High School.
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So in terms of the jurisdictional uh impacts, the commission and and the peer reviewer have already approved that. The only thing that's left to do now is to simply install the pipe. Um we've provided a general area for where the pipe obviously is going to be replaced. We've provided a general uh cross-section trench detail um and and sort of delineated the the area with the limit of work. Mhm. >> So, in terms of uh the approvals that need to happen now, um it's really the DPW needing to review the more uh slightly more detailed set of construction drawings, providing them with everything that they need in order for them to review the replacement of that pipe and, you know, approve that work and issue the trench the street opening permit to do that work. there are no new jurisdictional you know wetland impacts uh to be reviewed because they've already you know been reviewed.
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Um but has evolved and now um Hawaii P20 is involved. You know all our EPS they they do the college fair. They provide speakers. The department of education um is very supportive in providing speakers. HSTA um you know uh helped us to get our keynote speaker this year and provided supplies and support. Um the so sorry um HTSB also was supportive and HA. So, you know, when you have all these organizations that are coming together to both um support monetary and timewise, you know, you can see what an what an amazing event the dive into education could be where there were about 240 students um you know, that are at our public schools now either in a teaching as a profession field or program, sorry, excuse me, program or um in a edrising club and they're excited and you know, they want to be teachers.
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So the process the way that uh is laid out here is uh we provide a set of detailed drawings deliver those drawings to the DPW. At the same time we'll deliver a copy of the drawings to the conservation commission and then the DPW reviews and approves that work and issues the permit and we do the work. Um, and the, you know, we we've sort of created this new title for the set of drawings. We'll call them the RCP drawings. We'll submit those drawings to the DPW and submit them to the Conservation Commission at the same time. Um, so I don't I there from our standpoint there really isn't any additional wetland, you know, jurisdictional issue to approve by the conservation commission. It's really now the DPW that needs to review the plans, approve the plans, uh, and issue the work >> to the commission. Uh just a correction on the record.
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just to see that synergy that can happen if we all rally around you know this one um issue together gives me hope for you know what's in years to come but the current reality is that we are in a teacher crisis so while I would love um you know that all our teachers are highly qualified I know that I started out as not one of those um and I know the level of support that it took me to get through that program because my first priority was, I'll be honest, was not in obtaining my lensure. I was super stoked about getting to work with the kids. I wanted to help coach soccer at Pro City. I not for I'm not sure why they let me, but I ran graduation my first year. Um, so I was really busy in those first couple years. Um, and I and again, honestly, I wasn't so worried about the lensure.
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GCG's recommendation was that the culvert replacement and all details related be submitted as part of this notice of intent or as an additional filing before the commission. The commission at that meeting um agreed that an additional filing would not be needed if uh the details are prior to construction provide to the commission for review and approval. Yeah, and that's what I was kind of getting at is I don't I don't see a need for a new filing or an additional filing for this culvert. It's on the plan. It's on the plans. The details in there for the trench line. All you need is DPW approval to do it. Um I don't really I don't want to go through another protracted permitting process for something we've already looked at and agree with. >> I I agree. Yeah, >> I don't have a problem with this. >> This is just going to be a fivem minute item at some meeting.
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I was worried about the kids that I was facing every day. Um, and so when I decided I did decide within that first year to go for it, um, I was lucky that I had parents, right, and um, that are former educators to support me through it. Pearl City High School had a tremendous amount of mentors that were willing to work with me. Um, but a big part of it, honestly, would have been money. Um, I don't know for a lot of folks, you know, it to pony up your own money while not earning a great amount as an emergency hire, I think can be a struggle. Um, and so I know what it took for me to get there and get it done. And so I worry about other teachers who are going through the same. Um, so I don't have a whole lot of solutions.
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Unless you're doing something really wrong. Uh, you know, we have a number of things like this that show up where where it's just a a you show that the developer shows us, oh, we said we were going to do this. This is the details of how we're going to do it. And usually it's like, yeah, go ahead. But it's fairly a DPW issue >> that it's a courtesy that we're involved in. >> It is jurisdictional to us. >> It's jurisdictional, but I think we can handle it all in this process and not have to do it through a whole another process. >> So do I. You've already done it. >> So I I your wording is that you would give us the final plans concurrent with the DPW and then we would just >> voice approve them >> and I'm I'm fine with that. >> Well, No, that this says it's the the wording that they had was that it would beformational to us as opposed to >> approved.
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You know, I'm very very new to the board. Uh, I know I have a lot to learn, but I'm looking forward to committing to do that work with our stakeholders and the board. >> Thank you. I think that's what that's what as legislators we hope that you will, you know, look at some of the issues that you've heard and be willing to roll up your sleeves and try and see what areas we can improve. And um, were you able to finish in three years? >> I was. >> Get your three years. Did you find that difficult? >> Yes, but I also was able to finish within three years because University of Phoenix allowed me to start I think like the month after I applied. Uh and University of Phoenix is no longer one of the ones that uh provides lensures anymore or provides I mean sorry does the program sorry an EP anymore.
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>> Yeah. And I again that's fine with me. I don't Okay. I'm I'm >> you know we're going to approve these plans and it's showing on these plans. So it's approved >> as far as we're concerned. >> Correct. And and these plans are really at the same level as you know with respect to the RCP replacement as everything else. These are not construction documents per se. So >> those will have to come in in due course for the entire project. >> Yep. >> And should something show up that the agent has concerns about, I'm sure she'll let DP W know, hey, think twice about this. And I don't foresee that happening. But >> correct. Ultimately, they have to approve the plans and issue the road opening permit for the work to be done. Moving on, since it seems the commission is accepting the applicant's language, >> I think so.
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>> Well, I think your perspective is going to be welcome on the board because we want to be able to hear from from all walks of life, right? what are the issues? And again, as it was brought up, the one size does not fit all. And I know it's hard to to craft a program that will take into everybody's situation because that's not possible either. But there still needs to try to aim towards some kind of um system that can address the majority of the concerns and issues that's out there.
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