>> Yes. >> Or is it going to be one of those that they get both? >> Yes, it's both. they get high school credit if needed and in the dual enrollment pathway if they're taking it during the school day, they're kind of out of the corresponding um Apple Valley Unified School District course and taking the Victor Valley College equivalent course. So, they get credit in the proper area. They're actually earning credit at a slightly higher rate because a a three-unit class at the college is 10 and if if it's four, it's actually 13.3 or something like that. And then um they're also of course taking that and making their high or their college transcript for the very first time. And you know as you know the colleges have said that they really um want to see students in that dual enrollment kind of work and they um privilege transcripts that show students doing that kind of dual enrollment pathway.
And it's for college and career indicator for us too. when students do take and pass two um community college courses, they then are counted as college ready, which makes sense, right? They're in college. >> As we all know, there's always this conversation that our CTE programs are not equivalent. So, if we have students who want to go get that through the college level, um that should balance it, right? balance those kids who want to go that route and get it. Instead of getting the middle the high school CTE credits, they are now not only getting a high school uh college CTE credit, they're now multiplying it by three. Is that what it is? >> If if they're taking a CTE course that is articulated >> Yes. and uh where they're going to get uh credit by exam at the end of our course, then you're exactly right.
>> They are still earning. However, our state um does not allow the college and career readiness indicator to be satisfied by classes taken within a student's main pathway. So, if I'm a welding student and I take courses and I take articulated courses at VBC, those don't count as dual enrollment towards the college and career readiness indicator because they're within my pathway. I have to take another course outside of my pathway to count as dual enrollment. But those students still are qualifying. But that is a unfortunate quirk of our the state CCI metric where they don't allow those courses to count as dual enrollment if they are taken within the pathway. Now if a student is choosing to do this um some of these courses are often offered in the evenings um they're not offered during the day to accommodate students who are going to regular school.
Um have you um thought about making arrangement with u the city buses to be able to do you know coordinate that so our kids can get on the city bus get home and all of that. Do you guys have that conversation yet? College that does it. >> They did. They have. Uh, Victor Valley Transit Authority has been excellent this over the last couple years and a student ID now allows students to ride for free. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Thank you so much. >> Okay. >> Renee, did you have anything you wanted to add on that one? >> Because you said you were >> No, 24 was the one she she wanted to add. is not coming. >> Okay. >> Does anyone um >> need me to take them one at a time or can we do them as a group? >> Do them as a group.
>> Okay. All right. So, I make a motion to approve consent items number one, 2, 7, 8, 18, 22, 23, 24, and 25. >> It's a move. >> Second and may call for the vote. Mrs. Longore, >> I. >> Mr. Raleigh, >> I. >> Mrs. Tucker, >> I. Miss Apara, >> Miss Buchanan. I >> parallel universe. I had to look it up. >> I She looked it up for me. I was trying to find it on my phone because my computer died and she was like, "Here it is." Parallel Universe. >> Um, >> that's the name of the radio program. >> Yes. It seems that that statement caused a little bit of concern in the audience too as to what that really was what the the random statement that Mr. Schauer was making. >> So, >> a parallel universe. >> Yes. >> Amanda knew what I was talking about.
>> I did. Okay. So, we don't need a second. Closed. Uh closing items, future items. Do any members of the board have any future items? >> I do. >> Okay. >> I'd like to move forward uh with the agenda item for future discussion on the censor on Renee Longshore uh official censor for slandering staff uh false statements to the media which are still on the internet. Um and there could be a lot of other violations too. So, I'm not sure how we would research more of those violations if we would have legal u go through the tapes that Miss Longshore talks about all the time um to find out some of the things. I do believe there was some uh information released from close session as well. So, I'd like to move forward with that. I'm just not exactly sure how that uh will work.
We need to agendaize it for discussion as a board or we just have somebody have legal draft up some allegations. uh maybe poll uh different board members um from the phone and ask have you do you believe there's any violations that um would um be items that would be that she could be censored for and I know there's punishment that goes along with the censor censure if the board so desires she could be banned from different school sites she could be banned from uh any travel and things like that So I think we we need to move forward with it. Uh things are not going to get better uh with Miss Longshore and her allegations of um malfeasants against not just Tre Nelson but Matthew Schulenberg and other staff members. Um so that's that's what I like to do. So, I'd like consensus of the board to move forward and maybe Tren you could research a little bit more and get back to us on what we need to do to move forward with that.
>> Um, yeah, I can look into that. Um, I think because of the precarious situation we're in, uh, the superintendent probably probably needs to happen at the board level. >> Oh, okay. That's fine. Okay. Well, we need to have I I would ask ask that uh you madam president reach out to one of the legal teams at the district uh employees and find out what needs to be done and then as board president you handle it and uh maybe get back with the uh clerk which would be Maria and the two of you guys can hash it out and bring back what needs to be done. I'm sure it's kind of uh time consuming and has to be detailed. It's not just your average uh agenda item. >> Okay. >> For sure. >> Maria supports that looking into it. >> I have too much to do.
So, I'm just >> You don't have to do it. >> I'm just >> Well, I was just saying that the clerk of the school Yeah. that it might be better for the two of you to do it as president and recently vice president. >> If you don't want to do it, I'll support >> I I think you you two should do it. Okay. I'm just right now I'm I'm I'm I'm thinking that we we should find a way to >> personally to get along. And if we can get along, we won't need to go that route. >> Well, that's not going to happen. It's obvious. Sure. >> You were back there. >> Okay. So, what's there to get along? Can't we all just get along? Is a good term, but it doesn't work. >> Um, are we moving toward a vote to give direction? >> Just consensus.
>> We're just taking consensus. Yeah. >> I don't think he's >> Yeah. You know, whatever it is, I think we can go ahead and do it, but I don't know if we can get the results we're looking to get. Yeah, we can look into it. >> I can make calls if necessary. >> Well, get with me tomorrow then or whenever. >> Are we going to take a vote for consensus or is >> No, I'm just walking. No, I'm I was working. >> I mean, it's just already going ahead. I haven't been asked. >> The three of you are already just making plans. >> Well, it just takes three. >> Yeah, >> you have to count the three. >> So, my voice doesn't matter. >> No, no, please share. >> Voice. No, I think that I think Miss Apar you talk about healing. >> This isn't the way to do it.
I I would have a resounding no for consensus. >> We're going on two years of this nonsense. Two years in and and there's a lot more that you probably don't even know because people probably don't even share with you because they don't trust you to Okay, I'd like to go ahead and call for a point of order. Uh, Trusty Raleigh, you keep hurling out accusations, name calling, um, putting words in people's mouths. Um, this is unbecoming of a board member. We have a governance handbook that tells us how we're supposed to behave on this DAS and okay, >> I believe it needs to be reinforced. >> So, do we have consensus? >> We do have consensus. Um, Mr. Conrad, can I catch a phone call with you or something tomorrow possibly on the if you're available? >> Sorry, I know and I I am well aware I do not direct you.
I'm just asking. >> No, I I I can I don't know my role in this. This is brand new to me. So, I I will >> um >> Thank you. Yeah, we'll figure >> provide phone numbers. >> Okay. >> Yes, I can support however I'm directed to support. >> Okay. Are there any other closing items? >> Um, yes. So, I would like to go ahead and um again request um the information of spending and staff um including position and certification or training um at both of our high schools, Apple Valley High School and Granite Hills High School. The original request for this information was made two uh meetings ago and given direction by the board but I have not received it. So it was requested in February 2026. Uh, and then I was wanting to also hand down um questions that were referred to to um I I sent them to our superintendent and I wanted to make sure the board had all those questions as well.
and I can send one down for the superintendent, too. I just kind of put them on one document. Uh, so I would I would like these questions answered. So, I don't know if we need to do a Q&A, putting it on as an agenda item, or how this board wants to handle that. >> Are these the ones that we were sent in an email earlier this week? Some of some of them uh some of them were answered uh but many were not. I believe uh they can be answered um and I would like them answered. Uh I believe it was clarified earlier tonight that the superintendent said she would need direction from the board to answer those questions at Okay. So, I know she answered the ones that were pertinent to what we do in our role. At least that's what I read from the email.
>> No, it was on the ones on the agenda. >> She the ones that she thought were related or unrelated to agenda items at this time at this board meeting. I received an email from Trustee Longshore that said questions regarding the April 2nd board meeting. And when I opened them, the questions were not related to the April 2nd agenda. So I referred them to the president of the board and let her know that there was a desire to have those and that is the board according to our governance handbook. It is the board's right to ask for an agenda item and it would go through the board president to do so. So if there are questions, the board president can agendaize it and get the direction from the board as to whether that's going to happen. Several of the things are stated. Well, I'll leave it at that.
>> Okay. So, I just want to clarify. Uh, Superintendent Nelson, are you saying that in order for a board member to ask questions, it has to be agendaized or you have to see how they're connected to >> her agenda items? >> That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is according to our governance handbook, in order for me to direct staff to step away from their jobs to respond to a um group of questions that are some dating back to um a PAR's retirement. Um some that are closed session and cannot be discussed and um have to be negotiated. um a letter from Sanino County Superintendent of Schools um that was received today at 11:04 um and 11:27 while I was with students at student advisory. Um there is an agreement that questions regarding the board agenda are to be provided to the superintendent in advance of the board meeting.
I will be honest, we are governance handbook says in advance in advance of the um the board meeting in order for staff to be prepared to answer those questions. That's making an assumption that we have nothing else that we are doing on the given day that you send the email. And so I can't pull staff and ask them to do this question and answer for things that the board in many cases have already approved. And I won't do that without the direction of the board. >> I'm for clarification. I'm not asking you to pull staff. I'm not even asking you to answer my questions right now. I'm just asking you to answer my questions as a board member. And you said you would have to get the direction of the board to answer my questions. And I know you're saying some are close session items.
That's why I provided them to the board so they can see for themselves if it is close session items or not. That's a concern because now they're in writing and I I purposefully did not provide them to the rest of the board because they are close session discussions and now they are in print which makes them discoverable. Um, so this board has to be able to separate fact from fiction. And when we inform each other as members, we have to be willing to look at the information and not just take what is being said. Um, so I encourage my board members to go ahead and peruse these questions. Um, I would like them answered. Like I said, it doesn't have to be right now. It didn't have to be before this board meeting. I was just told that I couldn't get them without board direction.
So, is that does that still stand? Superintendent Nelson, do you still need board direction to answer my questions? >> I need board direction to ask staff to respond to these questions. approximate if you had to estimate like how much time would be involved for one person to do all this. >> Well, it's not one person. That's the problem. >> One person for hours >> and I haven't estimated it. >> Okay. >> Well, this is a question that I have and I I'm not sure that we are we we're going in circles. It's like talking in the cloud, you know, as I look at the second page of this uh paper because I this is the first time seeing these questions. Um the second page of this question it says is this closed session information if it is since it is closed session information it's already out of close session >> right >> it shouldn't have left the closed session room to come out here it's already out of close session yes our eyes are seeing it but if I should get up and leave this paper here I who's to say I've already exposed information from close session that shouldn't have come out to the open session So this is a real concern that I have if the superintendent is making a decision when an email has been sent to her to make a decision not to send to all of us because that is like passing the whole close session information out to all of us then that's up to her you know I just I don't know how to explain it but it almost sounds like that you know we are trying to make the sup superintendent um our servant um >> you know and she is a servant of the whole the district.
She's carrying this elephant in her head and then you know as I'm thinking about it's like she is busy trying to balance an elephant on her head and we're busy dealing with little ants. She's trying to find the ants with the elephant sitting on her head. I don't know how else we can address this except to say the superintendent, this is no offense, Renee, because I hear you and I know that you're trying to have your voice to be heard, but it is very important that we can give the superintendent something that she can manage, questions she can manage on any certain day, but to give her two pages, actually three three pages tight for her to get it together for our next meeting and then prepare for all of this and then go out to all 14 sites or 13 sites. It is near impossible.
We need to be able to allow her to do her job. And this is a struggle that we are beginning to have now. >> I I'd just like to point out I and clarify I did not ask her to have it ready for all of these questions for this meeting. I just asked an answer to these questions. I did not stipulate a timeline for it. I did not say it had to be done by this time. The answer I received was I will not receive answers unless this board gives direction. I have put no timeline on this. I have put no demand on this. >> Actually, I have good timelines in writing to me. So, I I would I would humbly disagree. >> You just cut me off. Um, got it. There are some questions, but not the three pages. We, when we speak, we need to speak clearly.