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I'm always available and always willing. I I love you know speaking with parents. >> Thank you so much. And I would take questions from the board. Trusty O'Neal. >> I'm just thinking way to get uh a way to get to the parents. You know, we have a back to school night throughout the campuses right after, you know, the first couple months. If you were to have a a forum on the campus at every back to school night, inviting the parents specifically into the the theater there or into a classroom, hopefully a theater, because we want more stu parents that would overflow a classroom, and give them firsthand knowledge of what what we're doing, especially because it's the beginning of a of a school year. Get them on board. >> Can I add Tyler and I are also going to be play putting on monthly workshops next year about AI and ecadence together.
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The big question that we asked about last time, I think, was the the turf and better ways of doing it, not better ways of doing it. So is um and you've provided some information about particular products. The smart turf would very particular product. I'm not sure about the other at um it's it's the infill. This is about the base underneath the turf. Is that what the second document >> is about when it talks about >> hybrid infill and tpe infill? >> So I am going to defer madam chair. >> Okay. >> To Roger Martin with uh green leaf landscaper. Okay. >> Um and he can answer the questions specific to that. >> Great. Thank you. >> Thank you.
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It's in our professional learning plan. So that way families can come and I would love to use our libraries to get more people in our libraries. So we do have that as a plan for next year as well. That's one of our goals. >> Good. >> Yeah. And just to echo what Brian was sharing um not not just to get on board but also to share some of their concerns. I know that uh at the end of the AI summit I did speak to three parents with OKO and uh great job for being there. Uh they did voice some concerns with artificial intelligence but just to have that conversation right. Um also I really loved all of your presentations. I was very intentional. Uh is it just is that correct? You are a master pedagogue in terms of your uh uh session. That was an amazing session.
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>> Well, good evening everyone. Um my name is Roger Martin. I'm with Green Leaf Landscaping. Um yes, the question was brought up with regards to the type of turf that'll be utilized. Um, obviously synthetic turf, much like a lot of building products, um, has had significant growth and, um, innovation over the last, you know, 20 years. If you think back 20 years ago where synthetic turf was, it was, uh, what we put inside our porch areas. Uh now you see them on professional uh sporting fields, you see them in parks, you see them uh uh residential and commercial landscaping, uh playgrounds, so on and so forth. Uh the synthetic turf itself would be analogous to say um like a cell phone in apps, meaning that each manu each company makes their own proprietary turf and has their own proprietary infill. Um, in this case, uh, I what I wanted to do was to look back on what Ashlin currently has, uh, and has been using.
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um the way you were able to interact with the group and also teach them the information. There was another great presentation with some of uh Dr. An's researchers and you see Irvine uh I really love the work that they they were doing with Ryes uh specifically and the communities there. Maybe that's something we can model with our community schools or our parents. Uh that's just a thought with of course permission from them. Um so yeah besides that great job web presentation I look forward I firmly believe that we are uh moving forward with AI responsibly right uh at a as a metacognitive tool to continue learning versus what's happening right now in the nation in terms of just being dependent on it right so thank you >> thank you >> I have to echo that just that workshop I went to I was I was I was blown away I mean I um I think that you should do more workshops like that especially because I feel like um hands-on but I have kind of a proposal because I'm a senior citizen and I need to go over things and repeat it and then stop the track and go back.
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So, Ashlin High School, as I mentioned last week, as well as Ashlin Middle School, have a synthetic turf field. I believe they're older than, you know, 2020. And although that's only six years ago, there has been significant changes uh done to the synthetic turf for durability uh for flexibility. Uh in addition to that, uh the infill component itself um earlier on and I believe both of the fields in Ashlin have what I would consider to be the base level infill in what it's referred to as SBR. You'll see that uh denoted there. And SPR is basically a substitute for a synthetic rubber um substitute for natural rubber. Um and predominantly it's made out of recycled tires. Um what the what transpired from that is they wanted to get a uh they wanted maybe a better material that might have been more eco-friendly. So now a lot of companies are utilizing products that are like a hybrid.
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I'm kind of wondering if both you and Tyler, Dr. Sherman did um some videos >> that we could have for parents to educate them cuz I'm >> I I know that there's presentations but again I want to see I would like to have access uh for specifically >> for you know and for AI safety and and really some of the things that you covered in your workshop. It was so valuable. I mean I felt I felt I mean and I think what you what was really valuable for me is you kind of addressed both ends of the spectrum of kids just trying to find the answer versus there were kids that are critical thinkers which were trying to make them and then they didn't like AI in some cases they were anti- AI and for and I think the the big takeaway for me was the impact on the environment which I didn't know and Um it was really eye opening.
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So using both the SB, but in addition to that, you're also using um organic materials like cork and coconut fiber and um olive kernels. And then um above that would be the TPE infill, which goes away from rubber. And what you're really dealing with there at that point is um um more like a um a sand material that uh is been engineered for its durability, elasticity, and so on so forth. So I would say that where we're looking to uh would probably be something above what you currently using in your uh your own public fields since this is a private field. um you know and the innovation is just such that um it's it's more apt to use a better product because of the environment and then we're kind of focused on that. Uh so we would be using something like a hybrid infill and I gave you a technical data sheet or I believe Wayne sent in a technical data sheet um from uh Smart Turf.
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So I I think I would like to propose for my sake. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Because I want to learn really about ecadence. I I want to see demonstrations of scrappy. I want to know more about and I think especially for parents who can't get to our workshops, who can't get to our coffee with the principles or wherever we're doing it. Um, again, I'm doing it because I wanna I want to stop and repeat itself and keep on going back. >> Do it step by step in slow-mo. >> Yes, >> we will definitely we will definitely record some videos. Yes, >> I um I echo all the sentiments. I mean, fabulous work. I I I loved um seeing the demonstration of all the um you know, getting our uh employees up to speed. um if employees don't know what they're doing and they don't feel comfortable, you know, how can they help uh roll this out?
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Um so the the product we would use would be something similar to this. Something that um is one going to be easier on the joints of the children uh you know playing the sports. In addition to that something that's going to have better drainage uh in addition to that uh obviously increased durability and something that's more eco-friendly. >> Um so sorry. So which one on this are you proposing? There's there's the hybrid system and the TPE system. Which one are you proposing for this project? >> So, uh the again this is why I'm saying the the words that I'm using when I say hybrid infill and TPE versus what you guys have used in the P or are using currently at Ashlin High School or the middle school is SPR. This is like saying Kleenex, meaning that there's very there's a there's within each of these are very specific products that are um proprietary to whatever vendor.
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So, and and I was really anticipating this moment when uh you're going to unleash Scrappy, but I really understand why um that it was intentional to make sure that this is um uh has all the safety protocols and and to give it the um the best um uh coding, you know, so that um it really really helps our students and our parents. Um I am elated. Um, thank you from this presentation, for bringing this forward. Um, I too want to learn and so I'm going to go through uh these uh self-paced course because I'm too embarrassed to have somebody show me because I'm probably slower than them. I've dabbled a little bit in AI. U but this um you know this is really a hot button issue, but I know this is um we're we've been doing this in our district how many years now are we in our third is it well technically four >> yes I wanted I wanted to say that out loud this isn't something that we've just you know started yesterday and so we're being very responsible and there's all kinds of safety uh um precautions that are in there but in the grand scheme of of life I just had a teacher talking to me about this today and I guess there's a movie out there Yes.
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Uh so to what I wanted to say was that we're probably using something closer to like the hybrid infill. So it's not quite the SPR that you've used in the past. that's older technology, but something that is more eco-friendly and um in, you know, utilizing materials like I said, cork and coconut fiber and olive kernel. So, I I'm hoping I'm answering your question by saying it would be a hybrid infill, but to say specifically the type, it really determines it's really determined on the specific manufacturer of the synthetic um turf. So, I think what I'm hearing is look, the town uses a certain kind of turf at the high school. Ours is going to be better for the environment is kind of my takeaway. >> Yeah, that's that's I mean, I'll be honest. >> That's my big takeaway. But the one thing I was going to ask you is because you're not being specific as to the brand and I think what you're saying is like there's different there's lots that fit in into that category.
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And she's talking all about it and she's scared and it's like, you know, it's really sad for a teacher in my district. Sorry, not in not in in in Anaheim Union District, but um you know that that that's out there and that there's the scary part of it. Um but we have taken the steps to uh discern and and and take the scary part out of it. We as a district believe that there's that the most important element in AI is the human element. Um and I I want to stress that that um this isn't unleashed. We have all of the things that we need um to protect our kids and um to help them succeed in this world because we cannot bury our heads in the sand and ignore it. Um so we um I have every confidence in all of you in this work and uh bravo to you.
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>> Yes. >> I'm not a turf expert. I don't think anyone here is. Is there a way you could just like tell us about one that might work? like just pick one off the internet and just kind of give us >> I don't even need to do the we could use >> or something like it. >> Yes, you you should have that document in front of you. >> Right. I think what he's saying is what we currently use is pure pure um rubber crumb. >> Correct. Yeah. what he's proposing to use is the hybrid system which is a combination of >> sand rubber chrome >> or so what that percentage of each thing is varies by manufacturer and correct me if I'm wrong if I'm misinterpreting what you're saying what the percentage is proprietary by manufacturer but ultimately it is a blend of all of those things that >> but are they like are some some manufacturers like 20% organic material and 80% yes or is it like a 50/50 blend and which way are you going to go is My question, >> it's usually when you're talking about hybrid material, it's usually the replacement of anywhere between 30 to 50% of the SBR, which would be the recycled.
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Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Moving on with our public comments. Opportunities for public comments occur at the beginning of each agenda item and at this time for items not on the agenda. Persons wishing to address the board of trustees should complete a speaker request form available on the information table at the back of the room and submit it to the executive assistant prior to the meeting.
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Okay. >> Uh, tire rubber. >> So, essentially what you're telling us is you will be using material that's 30 to 50% uh what's the word? non rubber and is more >> it would be the the one you want to talk about because when utilizing rubber there are other rubber materials that are eco-friendly it's the SB which was made out of recycled tire and that's where uh a lot of one of the reasons why the technology came about is because uh of the dust that was provided by the SB rubber. So what I'm what I'm saying is that that SB rubber um will be decreased by 30 to 50%. >> Relative to what we have at the high school. >> Exactly. >> Okay. So it's 30 to 50% less rubber than the high school. Yep. >> Which is >> Yeah. That's the hybrid. >> Yep. >> Which is 100% which is probably 100% what's at the high school.
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Each speaker is limited to a maximum of three minutes. Each topic or item is limited to a total of 20 minutes. Board members cannot immediately respond to public comments as stated on the speaker request form. And I will call forward our first speaker is Pearl uh Ara I think. I'm sorry if I pronounced that wrong. Welcome. >> Hello, my name is Parzola. Thank you guys for having me. I just want to speak about um the name change of Hanahim High School. I graduated Anaheim in 2017. And I just want to say as somebody that has natives in their family, it is it was very hard for me to grow up and them ask me like, "Oh, what high school do you go to? Where do they stand for?" And I'm like, "Uh, the colonite colony." And it was very hard just for the fact that we all have indigenous in our blood.
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>> Yeah. Roger, is there an example of somebody using this particular recommended field in this approximate area like one of the universities or another high school, middle school outside of Ashlin? >> Using what the specific brand? >> Not brand necessarily, but the style that you're >> I can tell you that any new field I can for the most part any new field that's being built today is using the hybrid. that that's the there there would really be no reason at all like the fields that you guys have currently I'm assuming that at its end of its end of life and it needs to be replaced you will be going to a hybrid system >> I think I think where for me like where where the town of Ashland is concerned is um is about the materials and the safety of the materials in regards to like the environment and what leads leaves, you know, what leaves the site.
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And I feel like just like how they did Caesar Chavez and they took down his name, I feel like in November we should do that with the name change of Anaheim High School. It doesn't represent us as a whole because if you really dig deep into the name of the colonist, it has blood on its hands. It has blood on all of our indigenous people, everybody. So, I just feel like we in November, we should definitely change the name of Anaheim High School. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Our next speaker is Meritza Bermudez. Uh, good even. Hello. Good evening. We're President Guerrero, um board members, district um cabinet, staff, parents, students, and community present and watching here on on watching online. Um I'd like to begin with a quote from Margaret me. It says, "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world." My name is Marita Benmudes and I'm I'm the education community organizer for Orange County Congregation Community Organization.
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And so the smart turf sheet that you provided, you know, they say on their website that they're 100% um PASF free, right? And that's so and that's the actual turf that goes on top of the infill, correct? >> So is that the you know, is that the standard now? Is is a lot of what we're hearing about turf fields not being good for the environment is is that really in regard to the old turf fields and not not in regard to this new technology? That's what I'm wanting to know like is >> yeah I think I think like anything else um you know there are there is an there is a desire obviously um for one to have a better product but that better product can be denoted on many things one durability but in addition to that how it's how it it's utilized uh in in an environment you know people are looking to be more green uh one you know the big thing we have is you know how do you recycle the material of the field when you're done, you know, when it's at end of life.
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