2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 160
So we have a database now that lists each element of every single facility in government public schools and has given a um a condition status for that particular piece of equipment. So just some stats about Gilbert public schools. So our total square uh total gross square footage is just under 5 million square feet under roof. Our total replacement value, remember these are all taxpayer assets, um has a current replacement value of 1.8 billion, 75% and you can see from the graph that all most of our facilities were were created in in the 1900s and the early 2000s. So 75% of all of our school facilities were constructed in 1990s and 2000s. So the average age of our portfolio across the district is 32 years. So you can imagine that if you had a a house that was 32 years old, it it was going to be that time in which components would start failing.
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 161
So this is the graph that we've shared numerous times regarding our facility status. So you can see in 2026, which is where we are today, our deferred maintenance backlog is $112.1 million. And this does already account for Pioneer being removed. So we've already removed the the needs at Pioneer. So just a simple example, if we start with 112 million and we were able to ask for $20 million more per year, it would absolutely help us to maintain our facilities. We're asking for 136 million of which 65 million is associated with our facilities. So, um that would that would be $20 million per year for about three and a half years. So, it would help stem off that that continual decline in our um facilities and equipment in the condition in their condition. So, the next five-year facility needs, this is the time frame that we're talking about for this 136 million bond.
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 162
So, you can see of the deferred maintenance at 2026, about $52 million is associated with roofs and $40.2 million is associated with mechanical, so HVAC, plumbing, and then electrical has 9 million. Those are the failure points that we have on a regular basis where we had to shut I don't know if we shut down South Valley, but boy, they were raining cats and dogs inside their building when the roof failed. And then uh of course, you know that we've had um one school that was shut down due to a main distribution panel failure and then a couple of schools shut down due to HVAC failures. So, those are those are important components that need to be addressed. So these are some of the specific projects that are on the docket in that first two years uh for that critical facility upgrades. Um you can see the costs for each of those.
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 163
And then Albert's provided some pictures of some of these um these pieces of equipment. So um I I think the one on the right is Canyon Rim. Is that right, Albert? on the right >> is on is on the left and then um these two pieces of equipment as in Mosqu L which is our next major project. There are two cooling towers here to the left. They were installed way too close together which led to the deterioration you see on the right. So those are critical needs to avoid Mosquito from being shut down. These are bathroom examples. Um, we have renovated gosh I think I I think we can enumerate them, but we've renovated I mean almost all the elementary restrooms uh with the with the the bond authorization from 2015 and 2019. I think Burke Elementary is the last one that needs to be renovated.
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 164
Is that right? >> Only to the early 2000s. >> So we're through to the to 20 years old basically. And then these are the electrical distribution. If you remember, Ashlin Ranch was the one that failed where we had to get in um uh a generator and then we shut down school for a day or two, I think. But we got us up and running. And at at that point in time, we noticed the same thing was happening at Augusta Ranch. We were able to plan ahead and we replaced Augusta Ranch. Now Canyon Rim is seeing the same failure. And then on the right is Burke. Burke Elementary. That's original equipment and Burke Elementary is one of our oldest schools. So, these are some examples of those critical um items that you were looking for, Shaina, in your conversation with me earlier today and yesterday. >> I I had one one question if if possible.
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 165
Um, and I don't know if you talk about it later in the presentation, but um, I know for like things like the shell, I think the school facilities board can assist with, and I was just curious what, you know, have we applied for a couple projects and what that has looked like. >> Yeah, that's a really good question. So, as an as an example, we had um Desert Ridge High's uh roof and Greenfield Junior roof and Gilbert High's roof on this this year's uh capital request for unrestricted capital, but Alurn and his team have been actively pursuing right now Desert Ridge High to get the funding for Desert Ridge High. So, we're close to uh we're close to getting that um at least to be agendaized and approved by the SFD, but but um and Albert will be sharing this with you in the board report this week, but um we are going to request that that uh you approve $150,000 purchase to get the architectural done on that so that we can ex expedite when that project gets agendaized so that we can get that addressed next year.
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 166
So, that's the hope. But yes, we are actively pursuing SFD funding for sure. >> So what what what was that? That was for the roof where >> at Desert Ridge High all of the roofs at Desert Ridge High all the buildings. >> Aren't there already roofs on those buildings? Why do we need to spend $150,000 on architecture? >> It's one of the rules regarding SFD. But Albert, if you want to come up, can you can you give them some information on that? >> Thank you. Yeah. And I apologize in advance for my voice. I've been getting over something. I don't know what. Singing I think. Um so just to Bonnie's point. Yeah. So that is one of the requirements and and and exact that's the exact question in in a sense we're going like for like so you think like why do we have to redesign all the engineering's been done?
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 167
But per the SFB per their standards in order to follow uh procedure and and make sure there's no changes no change orders they they recommend a design. So, in other words, if they're paying for it, they don't want to make sure we're not peeling this thing back and going back over it again. Um, ideally, if we did this ourselves, yes, we'd be confident in the fact that the the provider is is going to do the the job correctly and and and to scope, but again, this is part of the SFB's uh requirement. And as Bonnie pointed out, in in order for us to pay for it, it'll help ex expedite those funds. Uh we were just on a conversation on Wednesday and sorry, we're not even at Wednesday yet. um with the S our SFD liaison and um we're we're running through the design phase and pushing towards a construction phase here soon.
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 168
So this will help catapult us directly into the construction phase for that that ask of 155,000 for design fees. So $150,000 will is there a chance we spend the $150,000 and the state facilities uh denies our request. >> Um right now yeah there's I mean always a possibility there's a portion of it but as of right now everything is qualifying based on age and status and deterioration rate. So again, working side hand inand with our liaison um helps us to to hopefully predict some of that so that we're not just to your point getting into 1550,000 or beyond and then all of a sudden be told that part of the 6 million we we get 2 million or 1 million. So this this is all part of that hopefully to to get the most effective use of that that uh BRG funding. And is there a list of things that are eligible for approval by the by the state state facilities board?
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 169
Um I mean why can't we just request that all our buildings that are 30 plus years get a new roof? >> So so part of the process again some may be termined as critical. So they have to be looked at as critical. And a lot of these envelope or or um anything that encases a facility or or deemed critical because again it's going to keep any uh moisture penetration things like that out of or intrusion out of the uh out of the buildings. So they may look at let's just call it a a mechanical piece of equipment if it's fully functional still working. It may be something that may not be deemed or maybe not be fully funded. So yes, to that point, we could we could put a a an entire list of everything that needs to be done, but still would have to go through their process and their order as far as determining whether or not or how much they could they would fund it.
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 170
>> So how do we decide what we request from the state facilities board and what we pay for on our own? Ideally, we try to look at the most critical and again Bonnie could step in, but we do try to look at the most critical equipment. Um, as far as um, right now, this is more of like a predictive like we do have failures. We're past the 20-y year mark. Um, we're looking to improve that roof. We we have had uh issues. We're not at the point of uh what South Valley was 3 years ago. Um, but now we're in that predictive mode. And so things like that as we're trying to assess, we're we're going to try to identify the best possible applicant for those uh building renewal grants. And a lot of those are um excuse me, a lot of those tend to be weatherization projects similar to this as well as building exterior.
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 171
Uh we did one back in 2019 at Highland High where we were getting it's called a Ryland test and it's how much moisture is absorbed into the block or the the building material that would seep into a facility creating mold and some other issues uh created by moisture. Um so some of those pieces um are are how we determine on on what's going to be in there. So >> Okay. Thank you. >> Can I just follow up on that just so I better understand? So, is there a limit to what we can apply for? Um, you say kind of choose the ones that have the best chance. Um, why not apply for if we apply for everything, does that decrease the chance of getting one thing versus choosing the very best thing to apply for? >> So, so we're limited in funds and again, Bonnie's probably a little bit more verse in this than I am.
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 172
Um, we're looking at I think we have roughly 100 districts uh statewide. The SFB SFD t roughly has about that $250 million range. So, we're talking about $250 million for 100 100 districts. Um, and we may be looked at, um, and I'm hoping I I I say this correctly, but we may be looked at as as maybe not necessarily as in bad a shape or as critical as another facility who don't they don't benefit from the same things, whether it be bond taxpayers or or demographics that we that we have. So, their funding is obviously their resources are a lot more limited. So, those may be a little bit more dire need. It truly does. I mean, in a blink of eye, that 250 million does go. I mean, here we're asking for 130 35 million. Um 36. Sorry. >> I don't want to I'm not going to I don't want to >> we're going to have to correct that later, but but yeah, so we're asking for 136 and here we're here the state only is allocated annually and that could fluctuate depending on what the allowable funding is.
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 173
Uh 250 for for a 100 uh districts. So we do try to take ownus upon ourselves as we do these assessments and do try to be predictive so that we can maintain these facilities in advance rather than truly taking a lot of these critical items to failure. So we don't want to be at a point where there are districts that may go without AC. Um there may be districts that go out you know for a longer term that we try to we try not to be without those. >> And Albert don't we work with the liaison? we do >> that helps us with this process to help us guide us through something like this. So we aren't doing a shotgun approach that our ability to actually pinpoint what our need is and actually get it approved is a little bit better based on that cooperation with that liaison.
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 174
>> Yes. And we we do that just to Shane's point. We we keep in constant contact and not only part of our part of our job as a district district-wide they have to statewide they have to do it is we maintain our we do annual PM reports and all those PM reports are associated to reports that we have to send back to uh the SFD to determine you know what has been done because again onus does fall back on us and if they do see or find that we've been in a collect that could determine whether or not we get proper funding. Um so we do need to maintain our maintenance books and things like that. um in order for them to show as so as we do present them and they hold us accountable again talking to those liaison they're honest as far as what did you do here where's you know do you have the proper reporting in annually and things like that so they they do try to keep us um up to speed >> so if if we drop the ball on maintaining our properties then the state could take an approach of well you made your bed now you got to lay in it right is that kind of what you're possibility.
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 175
Um, no difference than than how the trust operates as well when they're they're determined on, you know, certain things that we do in our facilities and for safety purposes or maintenance purposes. >> All right. Thank you. >> If I can just ask one more question in advance of of the $150,000 vote that'll be coming to us >> is I was going to say 136 million. Sorry. >> Can we amend that to 150,000? So, if if I'm characterizing it correctly, this seems more like uh a check off um to to meet what's needed from the state than something that's actually essential for the project itself. >> Um yeah. Well, I'm not going to go there because I don't know, but that's been my gut reaction as well. I'm not sure >> unless the state's listening, then it's super important. Yeah. Um, does the $150,000 reflect the nature of just checking the box?
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 176
Like is is there something that we could spend $75,000 on to check the box? >> So, um, so I think that's a a good question. So, uh, there was some confusion about about the direction that Albert was getting regarding, well, why do I pay for this if you're going to pay for it, right? And so the quote that SFD got for this architectural work was I don't know $300,000 or a little over $300,000. >> And then the SFD I I um one of my peers is on the SFD board and I asked them well they said something about us going ahead and paying for the architects ourselves. And so then I said, "Well, Albert, why don't you go and get some quotes?" Because if you get the architectural feed paid for by yourself, it could expedite the process. Which I didn't understand, but based upon conversations with Albert now, it's because it eliminates one extra step.
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 177
It eliminates a step to have the architectural fee go to the SFD first and then time elapses and then you put the construction on there. So by us taking on that responsibility at a less cost to us than it would be for SFD, we're going to get that done and then we eliminate a whole process so that the next time we go to the SFD board, it's for approval of the construction phase. So it seemed reasonable and and the the budget line for this roof is $6 million. So to spend $150,000 to expedite $6 million seems like a reasonable spend, but to your question too, Mr. Thompson. I asked the same question. Well, are they going to are they going to approve it? So, they're going to approve it. It's more of the when it's going to be approved. It's more of what are the resources that are going to be available?
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 178
Can we get it if we expedite it, can we get it approved for next year? And so then I'm asking Albert, well Albert, can we can we hold off? Will can we repair the roof so it doesn't fail like South Valley? And he says, yes, we can do some repairs so that we can get through at least through into 2028. So I feel like we have some room, but but he's got two other projects right in the the path, right? So he's got Greenfield Junior's roof as well as Gilbert High's roof coming in next. So yes, we're trying to take advantage of it. The risk retention trust as well is now partnering with the SFD because they're seeing huge losses associated with roofs. They've lost full roofs. So now they're going back to the SFD and say why didn't you fund this? You allowed it to fail and there were some huge losses, you know.
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2026-04-29 Maricopa County, AZ YouTube / Gilbert Public Schools transcript source: youtube Gilbert Public Schools Board Meeting 4/28/2026 · passage 179
So there's more attention on this shell stuff to your point. And I think you probably know that, Jesse, based upon your job. But um but I feel like now's the time in which we should push this and we have a pretty good chance of prevailing. >> I I just want to make a comment that um that is why the ASBA sued the state because of the lack of capital funding. They I I don't remember the year. It was kind of like maybe during the great recession like 2009 that they moved to the state facilities board. They haven't fully funded uh facilities going back to um Roosevelt v Bishop and I think that's in like 2001 or 1999 or something. They've they have not fully funded our capital needs for all districts for 20 years. So, um, that's part of the challenge is that there's only a very small pot and a lot of people trying to meet their needs in their district, but we have to try.
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