I'm talking about how do I make I'm talking about making a proper an accurate not just proper an accurate motion that does the thing that I'm that we're trying to do like so >> I move a little bit >> so so right now in order so it in order to get something on the agenda a board member has to >> it's not Do you want to make a motion to discuss the process by which a board member can put something on an agenda? >> Yes. I move that we discuss the process by which a board member can get an item onto the agenda >> at a future meeting. >> And I'll I'll >> at a no at a future meeting. I I move or you want to make a motion now on a future meeting. >> But you guys, I'm just letting you know you you had a dangling preposition that you're not just talking >> grammar.
I just want to throw a little note out there. The holding process is a courtesy and a tradition and something that I support, but it's not a binding rule. If there are rampant distractions from the frivolous holding of line items, I'll simply abandon the process and move to a simple debate on the whole budget as a single article during which regular speaking limits will apply, which means you get one comment during the entire budget. It's up to you guys. Uh administration, town manager, central purchasing, telecommunications, town council, data processing, town clerk, elections, town meeting, board of registars, human resources. >> There's a hold on human resources. No, it doesn't mean you get to come up. Yeah. It was a hold for human resources, right? Is that a yes? ask you verbal please. Yes. Thank you. All those in favor of the unchallenged items, please raise your cards.
Um, and I'll see if it was in email um, to share his opinion, but he felt that it was an avenue like as a board that we have to ask ourselves, do parents have a right to complain about staff, right? Do parents have a right to complain about the superintendent? Do parents have a right to claim, you know, to complain about a board member? And he felt that parents do need an avenue or we open ourselves up for complaints in other areas. So, that was like his thought process on it. Um, but if not, I'll circle back and see if I can get him to write up what his thought is. But then that's his opinion. >> I was going to say, so when I called CA, they don't have anything written. They There was nothing. >> No, no, no. They have 1312. I don't have anything that for board complaints or bylaw >> like I said I just >> so I didn't have any guided like I was trying to get something that Yeah.
>> I'm just saying that I had vacation. I was originally going to be here and now I had vacation. I only work Monday through Wednesday and I had Monday, Tuesday off and my my Wednesday was weight listed and I just found out that it was possibly approved and so I have to go revisit and see what I'm going to do because I will be out of town so I don't know if I'm going to come back for the meeting but I will let you know. So if I anyway I'm ify about next meeting. >> We have two meetings in June. Well, I know the the the ending of the month or like not the next week, but two weeks after. I will be here for that one. But >> the first meeting in June, you're not sure if you'll be here. >> The 17th is the first meeting.
>> Correct. >> Okay, fair. >> At a future meeting at a future meeting, I at I mo move I move that at a future meeting, we discuss the means by which a board member put something on the agenda. >> That says second. >> Yeah. >> At this point, you probably favor. >> I >> August. >> Yes. >> Sounds good. You got it. Okay. Okay. June's already full. >> Okay. >> July is funky. >> We're back in the groove, >> right? And this two I I wrote Rebecca and Greg. And I know that on May 22nd and on May 27th 7th um are the negotiation teams are going to be getting together and according to our governance handbook um it says that the board part of our responsibility in governing is to direct bargaining to that is part of our role and if we're going to do that that means we would need to have a conversation on the 20th because they're going to be doing bargaining on the 22nd and on the 27th.
Thank you. And opposed. That passes overwhelmingly. Human resources. Sir, >> sorry. Uh Jeremy Partardo 195 Prospect Street. Uh just noticing that most of the um departments that we voted on previously had were holding steady or slight increase. There seems to be a pretty substantial decrease for the human resources and I'm just wondering if someone could speak to uh why there's a almost 9% decrease for human resources. >> Thank you, Mr. Herbert. >> Thank you for your question, Mr. Partardo. Um yes. So that decrease is due to a restructuring of the office and uh the director position was ultimately absorbed by the assistant town manager position in the town manager's office. So that's why you see that decrease. Any further questions on human resources? Seeing none, we'll vote that on that by itself. All those in favor of the human resource. >> Unless you're at the microphone, I'm not going to see you or hear.
So that is something to consider too is that it would we'd be making it up out of >> Yeah. And you know his concern was if we don't give somebody you know um a basic channel that we're opening up for other areas for the complaints we heard. But the argument is that public comment and email are the way that you lodge your concerns with the board. So that's >> well I think that that's hard, right? Because a public comment you can't name anybody, >> but you also have to think about you can email. You also have to think about like so what would the consequences be? We're elected officials. So there's no like >> I don't there's we couldn't we couldn't make a >> slippery slope, >> right? And that's where we have to think about like we have to go through the whole motion of like okay so then what?
Yeah. >> The second one's the 20th. >> The second one I'm here for, but um I will let you know as I know. I just found out that this was approved. So, okay. Thank you. >> I have no comments tonight. Thank you. Uh moving on. Number 12, future agenda items. So, I wanted to ask if you if the board would like for the policies on the next agenda to be an information item again or to have it be an action item since there's so many. Do we feel like there's enough time for you guys to review them and take action or do you want it to be information again? I would love for it to be information again, but that's my agreement. What about you? But I think we could be ready to take action. >> I think we could be too. >> Where are we at?
And so I would also I move to put on the May 20th agenda because it's timesensitive that the board would have a discussion about direction to the Chico Unified bargaining team. That's my motion. I did. I said I was just looking at you.
you not with this crowd and it's it's perfectly fine to say hang on from your seat that's okay too >> Major Foster 15 Brogden Road um just a question on human resources what is the qualifications I'm a HR professional so you said it was absorbed by the town manager I'm just kind of curious because it's a discipline that isn't >> I'm going to stop you right there That's an excellent question, but way out of the scope of the budget. >> Okay. I thought we were talking about human resources. So, >> it's way out it's not anywhere close to the scope of the of the approval of the budget. >> Okay. Well, I made my point anyway. >> All those in favor of the human resources budget, please raise your cards. Thank you. And opposed. That passes overwhelmingly as well. Finance section, town accountant, assessor's office.
Right? like you can't >> I mean I would just say I'd rather see a 1312 complaint at our desk rather than at our attorney's desk. That's just the way I feel about it. >> Wasn't that part of our discussion was whether 1312 >> should apply to board members. Right. That was something >> which so if it does if it if it should then we need to either duplicate it or put it in the 9,000 bylaws. >> Right. So I think that's >> so that's part of right that's part of our discussion consider our discussion. >> Okay. >> Correct. >> Um so really read the language >> we would yeah and we would need to adjust the language to apply to board members and then we would need to make it put it in the um 9,000 bylaws. >> Can we put that on unfinished business to like think about it and come back and talk about it at the next meeting?
>> Okay, that's fine. Oh, asking if we want to have normally we have first reading and then we take action on our board member policy. And um so she was asking if we want to make next month or the beginning first meeting June 17th an action item or an information item. But I will say if we made it an information item and then we acted on it at the end of June, correct? cuz the next meeting would be the end of June. It would be like two weeks later. I think it's like a week and a half. >> It's a week and Wednesday >> because it's a public hearing for the budget in the ELCAP >> On the 17th and then the next meeting is to adopt >> seven days. >> Okay. So it's it's 7 days later. Yeah. >> I can go either way.
I said, "Do we have any discussion?" >> Oh, discussion. >> No, I think any public comment. >> I think I have discussion. I'm just wondering I'm curious because I feel like and I don't want to take away from your motion but I feel like that we're cramming in a whole bunch of stuff in May. Are we or are we not do you know >> and generally negotiations discussion happen in close session >> but we can't >> uh so >> I mean that's a that's a close session can meeting with your negotiators, which is >> All right. Well, I again, >> how about >> So, so hold on. Let me just because it's been motioned and seconded. It can be voted down. That's fine. I mean, I'm I'm >> Well, or it can be I mean, it can be voted down. I guess what I'm what I'm reticent to do it only So often we come out and say there was no action in closed.
Was that a hold on assessors and treasurer? All those in favor of the unchallenged items, please raise your cards. Thank you. And opposed. That passes overwhelmingly. >> You what? You voted no. I said overwhelmingly. Did I miss something, Julie? >> Okay. The assessor's office. Jo. >> Yes. Just um just a quick question. I'm just wondering. >> You have to tell everybody else who you are. >> Junken Friday went short road. Sorry. Um just a quick question. I'm just wondering um it seems to have gone up quite a bit. Is there a new position? It was I don't think it was mentioned in the report. Maybe it wasn't. I missed it. >> Mr. Herbert. >> Hi Joan. Uh so that is for a change in software that we have to use now the assessing software. So that's an increase in software charges. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> Yeah. I mean we we haven't even completed our discussion as a policy committee. This is sort of like the initial like we wanted to hear what where everyone stood on it before we you know if everyone feels like oh we don't need it we don't want to like take a lot of meeting time to do it. If everyone feels very strongly that we do then we need to think that through. So um it would be good to get you know some kind of consensus >> or maybe feedback by the 19th. >> Yeah. Again before the 19th because I think >> anything you have it needs to do some >> correct because then we can research. >> Yeah. Yeah, because then we could sit as a committee and say, "Okay, >> four out of, you know, six of us think we need to go X, Y, and Z direction." So, okay.
So >> yeah, let's make them an action. Okay. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Anything else for future agenda items? >> Okay. All right. All right. The next meeting date, June 17th, Wednesday, at 5:30 p.m. for close session 6:00 open session right here. OBS. Can I just add just a quick announcement that the May Reise Capital Advisors is doing a free Zoom on May 28th, so there's no need to actually attend it in person. >> May 28th. >> Well, they pushed that out to the very last minute in May. >> We're all hanging on like, you know, >> we used to do our board meeting earlier in June. That's why we pushed it back because it kept getting later and later that we got the information. Got it. Okay, I'm going to join this meeting at 7:24.
So again, the public has no idea what our close session item was, which is appropriate because there was no action. And I think there are some things that um our staff meaning are classified and are certificated um that they have concerns that I think are valid concerns. And we how many people we employ. But I think to only hear about things and close and say, "Oh, we don't we didn't make any we didn't have anything to report out, then they don't really know how the board stands on anything because we're not reporting out about anything." And there is. So, in effect, what happens is there's no direction from the board because there's nothing that we can report out. >> Well, aren't the bargaining communicating with their members on their own. >> They're not board members. And it says we're supposed to be directing how how negotiations are.
>> Seeing no further on assessors, all those in favor of the assessor's office budget, please raise your cards. Thank you. And opposed. That passes overwhelmingly. Development Services, Conservation Commission, Open Space Committee, Planning Board, Inspectional Services Department. All those in favor of the unchallenged items, please raise your cards. Thank you. And opposed? That passes overwhelmingly. Police department, fire department, which both or one I I didn't hear you. Jul fire. Thank you. Uh all those in favor of the police department budget, please raise your cards. Thank you. And opposed. That passes over. Fire department. Miss Nardone. >> Julian Ardone. 86 Health Street. Um I have a question. Uh if you turn the page A, it says EMS ambulance revolving. We're transferring it. And I'm almost positive we're trans that the 200,000 and the balance is 1.258406. After we transfer it, it'll be like a million 5846. Um and I almost positive that goes into the fire department.
Yep. >> Um, and so that was all I have. >> All right. >> Policy. >> Thank you, >> Joy. >> Okay. We met um on Monday. >> Monday, >> we reviewed the school due reports. Um, I'm not going to go over the drip funding projects. Casey's going to give us a wonderful presentation later on the agenda. Um, so unfinished business, uh, we have three capital projects to highlight. Um, and it's important to note the NBC is the point committee for two of those active capital projects. So, the roof replacements and the HVAC. Um, we still need to receive some comments and questions or feedback regarding these projects and we're hoping that they're hap going to happen over the summer. So, one of them, one of them is the oil tank replacement. So, the NBC has a draft RFP. Um, but this is the project that they're not officially assigned to yet.
It says in our governance handbook that we're we should be a driver of that that that is our job. And so, yes, of course, they are bargaining. They're they're bargaining. Absolutely. And we approve we approve the settlements that come forth. And I'm not I'm not trying to um >> sorry I'm not I'm not trying to say that we haven't done that portion but in my in my viewing online I don't get to know how the board feels about a a bargain until it is all completed and it's brought to the board for for approval. There isn't I don't have any idea how former boards felt about any of the things that are topics of negotiation. And I think that that does our that does our classified and our certificated and our public a disservice because that's our job to have an opinion about how things are going.