>> Correct. >> Yeah. Whatever you read is take one pass. Yes, sir. >> Do you want to read that again? >> Well, do we have to look at it first? >> We can do discussion. We should look at We can do it discussion. Oh, yeah. >> Oh, well, >> yeah, we got discussion on it. >> Well, I just do it. >> Yeah. Read it. Just read it again. So, I move that the board of education increase the permanent building substitute rate of pay increase to $10 per day and an increase of $5 per day for daily substitutes effective immediately. >> Oh, so I'm sorry. So, it's increasing $10 per day and then an increase of $5 per day for daily subs. Okay. Correct. Got you. Yes. >> For can I for daily teacher substitutes because we also have daily para educator. >> Okay. Substitutes. >> Yeah.
It should say three to five members not three members. I hear people getting it now. Okay. And then in the last paragraph of 962, the committee will be concluded at the end of each review and the planning board will appoint a new non-permanent committee for the next application, not before the next application. Other than that, it's fine. Uh the finance committee defers his recommendation to town meeting. Miss Kendall. >> All right. Last article. Uh Trisha Kendall, six Ruben Road. this time. Uh this is an article for the planning board. I'm the current chair of the Asham planning board. Um this is a change. Um we we have a design review committee obviously. We have had design review committee I believe for about 15 years. I don't remember the what exact date is on that. And um what all we're doing here is trying to restructure the way the committee that subcommittee works.
It was >> so it's not >> actually. >> Okay. So we have to review the motion teacher substitute >> right. >> So permanent building teacher >> teacher substitute rate of pay increase the $10 per day in >> but you have to say of $10 >> not two $10 >> increase of >> of $10. Yeah. >> So wait the $5 per day is just our regular parasubs and stuff. That's for our daily subs. >> Daily teacher subs. >> But does that need to say teacher subs? >> Teacher. Daily teacher sub. >> Both need to say teacher subs. >> Sorry about that. I'm not on that. >> Hey, teamwork. The dream work. >> Wasn't on you, right? [laughter] I'm just reading what's here. >> It's fine. >> Um, okay. Let's try this third time. Okay. >> Um, I move that the board of education increase the permanent building teacher substitute rate of pay increase of $10 per day.
Basically this is a committee that sits underneath the planning board. The planning board um uh appoints members to the design review committee and what that committee's job is is to advise the planning board on issues of related to design according to things that are already laid out in the bylaws which were which we're not changing. Um so and and that committee becomes very important especially when um say there are no architects or designers sitting on the planning board. Right now we have three architects and designers sitting within our sixperson planning board when we consider our associate member. So that's great but sometimes there's none. Sometimes there's no um designers or architects sitting on the planning board. And then it becomes really useful as these projects come before us to have a group of people that can look at it in terms of design. What we find um is that it gets really hard to um find professionals, architects, engineers, um landscape architects to commit to the three-year positions on that design review committee.
and an increase of $5 per day for the daily teacher substitutes effective immediately. >> Perfect. >> Else, >> any discussion, questions, comments, or concerns? >> All those in favor? I'm sorry. >> We'll share a little bit about >> I was going to say, can you can you review what that >> Oh, that's right. We spoke about it. >> Yeah. >> So, just passed out. >> That's right. You're right. >> Just a a just a short little summary of information for you. Um the top section of this um has some substitute rate comparisons from surrounding districts. So you can see um at our current rates we are in the very um bottom tier. Um and so our filler rates I think um for our subs through ESS are impacted by this. >> Um and so uh increasing it as requested um does put us more in line with other districts.
What we'd like to do instead is to have kind of these ad hoc committees per project. So when when a project comes before the board that needs a redesign review, we can get three members um of the of the committee or three members of the community or five members of the community, maybe depending on how big and important the project is to sit on a on in a design review group that may only meet a may only have a few meetings, but they can concentrate on that one project and then just go back to their regular professional day job, right? And we think that we will get more involvement that way, more focused attention from designers on these projects that we have coming. And we think that will be really good for Ashland. So basically the only part of this bylaw that's being revised is the way that committee is being created.
Still on the lower end, but definitely more in line. Um, so that should help with our our um fill rates. And um I just did a a quick annual um estimate of the budget impact on this. Um so we did increase our budget for short short-term substitutes uh in next year's budget. So that is helpful. It will absorb some of this increase. Um we are still looking at a at a budget exposure um of a little over $25,000 as a result. What is not what is more difficult to quantify in this is um an anticipated potential decrease in our daily subs as a result of increasing our permanent building subs at CLS um both for paras and for teacher daily subs. So um that's not contemplated in here. I'm hope hoping that we'll have some some offset. Um but this will be managed um very carefully next year.
So that instead of five kind of permanent or five members who have a three-year commitment, we're saying for every project that comes before the board that needs the design review. Not every project does, we will we will be keeping a list or we will be looking for members of the community to sit just for that one particular project. And after they give their recommendations on that particular project, then that committee is disbanded until we need another one. It's important to note that design review committee's recommendations are non-binding to the planning board. The planning board is the elected body and so the design review committee makes its recommendations to us and then the planning board decides if it's going to take or or not take those recommendations and then we discuss and vote on the project. Um that's all. Thank you. >> Thanks Trish. To allow discussion entertain a motion the town amend chapter 282 section 9.62 and 9.63 design review plan of the town of Ashland zoning bylaw as printed in article 10 of the warrant except in line one it should say three to five members in the penultimate line of section 9.62.
we will track it um you know monthly um and um I anticipate you know we always have some savings from leaves and vacancies and salary savings um and so I would anticipate that those savings could um cover the shortfall but we will track it monitor it report it out at um finance subcommittee um regularly. So thank you. >> Excellent. And if I could just add I just want to a reminder the critical purpose for this is to be more competitive. So, we do get substitutes who want to take jobs here in Brookfield and not the surrounding districts, which is unfortunately happening to us right now. And that's in resulting in um our teachers or interventionists having to cover classrooms and then students not getting the service and the reason why we hired them. So there's a very specific reason why we need to do this in in what we hope to accomplish.
The word before should be changed to four. Do I have such a motion? >> Excellent. Martin Ring, 42 Bay Colony. It just strikes me that by doing so, we remove any consistency that we might have in this design review committee because each time a project comes along, it's a new set of people that might be looking at it. So that might mean some sort of haphazard planning. It may not, but that's what occurs to me. Dr. Huff, >> uh Curtis Hoffman, 58 Hill Delale Road. Uh while, uh you have very thoroughly addressed the changes proposed to section 9.6.2, uh I notice there are also a couple of minor changes to section 9.6.3, which I wish you would address. Thank you. I'm not helping you on this one, Trish. I'm not helping you on this one. >> Let me see. Yeah, it wasn't the focus. Okay.
>> And with such a minimal increase and if we don't get the desired results, will we look at this again? >> Yes, we will. >> So, you know, and this isn't retroactive. It just starts as of the board vote now, >> I believe. So, I think the I'll have to look at that. Um, >> we may have increased the building one um about a couple weeks ago when I brought it to your attention. >> Oh, we did it in finance >> because I Yes. when we because I needed to I needed to help alleviate some of what was going on at CLES because they were short. >> I think we talked I I brought it up a couple times like they were short four and we wanted to replace it because we were just taking interventionists and teachers and >> it was just not helpful to our programming.
Um, let's see. Designer review committee shall submit its written refindings to the planning board and to the applicant along with any recommendations um and any suggested and any suggested conditions. Yeah, actually I think it was just repetitive that because the design review committee shall submit its written findings to the planning board which obviously will contain its recommendations. Um and then it said and any suggested conditions. So um they may or may not have so it says it's just putting the any in there because it may or may not have suggested conditions. um those are things we put into the decision that the applicant would have to um be bound to. Um and then and then it's just changing the word findings to report. So I think just to be a little bit more clear about what that is. Does that help? >> Council, is there anything any are there any substantive changes in that last paragraph at 963?
>> I mean, I'm just worried about looking at the numbers, right? We're increasing to 115. And I mean, so we're in line with Southbury, but we're still under everywhere else. And then even bring it up to 125. I mean, okay, we pay $5 more than Southbury. We're equal with New Town and we still have a bunch of districts that are paying more. So, I just don't know if this small increase is going to help us all that much. >> Yeah, I think you're right. I think we will we'll monitor that as well. We're starting conservatively due to our financial impact on other things. So, we're we're trying to, but um I I am in your camp. I would have loved to have gone higher. Um I have a great team that keeps me conservative. [laughter] >> Yeah. And I do I just do want to point out too, these are um these will be updated in our pay rate guidelines which are approved annually.
No, it was reworking to make it clearer about what they actual they actually do. >> Thanks, >> Mark. Oh, I'm sorry. >> Aaron Lad, 153 Pleasant Street. I would say two of the issues facing Ashlin today are affordability and economic development through the items mentioned tonight. This proposal does nothing to speedline the development pipeline for a new project, but further slow it down. The longer a project takes to gather members, come up with a committee, not at the consistency that Marty Ring talks about, further adds to the cost of the project, further slows down the development of it. Um, I see this adding four to six weeks to a project because it takes time to build forth the design review committee, change it out every time. I don't see how this helps Ashlin get projects done quicker, more affordably. Um, it may help the planning board have people volunteer for it, but I just see it slowing down any type of project going forth in the future.
This will be um you know, an addendum. um part of the pay rate guidelines does have a a footnote that the superintendent uh may change those rates as needed for operational purposes. So um when when we did have this need you know come up a couple weeks ago um when we brought it to the finance subcommittee um we did make the change then um but this solidifies it um through the board as well which is really important. The daily teacher rate was not impacted at that time. No. Um but this is um this is an important step to >> the daily sub rate we didn't change but the permanent we did so we could hire those four >> right >> all right we have a motion on the table any other comments concerns >> discussion okay all those in favor of changing substitute pay rate please indicate by saying I >> I any naysay no nays 6 nothing thank you very much moving on to drip Casey [cough] All right.
Um, and I don't think it solves that problem. >> Mr. Sony. >> Okay. Again, Mark the Sony 119 Main Street. Section 9.63 on page 15 says above the motion paragraph. It says design review shall evaluate request for site plan and design criteria by law design guidelines pro relegated by the DRC the RC shall submit the written findings to the now my question out of that paragraph is if it's an ad hoc occasional reform and different people how can this get progressive with the design site review with the planning board in them. How can that work? If it's ad hoc and one project it's over, they get new people and they talk it over on a new project. Is it is it going to be a continuation or do they do a continuence with the old boards? >> I I think that was addressed by a prior speaker.
Did you do it PowerPoint or is it as a >> Yeah. Can I do it as a Perfect. Thank you. Perfect. Thank you. No, you're good. Thank you. I don't know if you all want to get up and do the dance when I say we're going to talk about drip. >> Sorry. [laughter] No, too late. Sorry. >> Nicely done. >> Okay. I try. Um >> should be back at 10. [laughter] Yeah. >> I mean, if I had Okay. Um, all right. So, I'm here to talk about drip. We have uh discussed this both at the finance uh subcommittee, the facility subcommittee. Um, I'm sorry I don't have a print out, but if you want to come look, there's going to be some very, um, appealing pictures, I hope, um, throughout this presentation. So, if you want to change your seat, uh, feel free. Um but again this is a um a program through the state of Connecticut um governed by uh general statute section 10-265 which does provide direct grants to public school operators for fiscal year um ending June 30th 2026 and forward.
But it says um or any condition such including report shall contain any limitations. But if it's different other than those three that's up there now that's on on the screen. It goes over to another page. The property project 9.417 on chapter 8 282 zoning and it comes down to that paragraph. Does it continue or does it end as as understanding what it is at the beginning for a new design committee. >> My understanding, Mark, is that there'll be one committee for each project, >> right? But if it's new and they pass one and find another one and they got different people, >> different project, different people. >> Okay, I'll set Preston. >> Hello. Uh Preston Crow, 41 Rockwood Drive. Uh former planning board member. Uh I was on the planning board when the design review committee was created and on larger projects. It can be a really helpful part of the process.
So this does appear that it's going to be an annual um grant awarded to the district to districts all over the state of Connecticut. Um, and just for some background, um, a district repair and improvement project means a capital expenditure project approved by a public school operator, the board of ed, um, for any of the following. A, the construction, renovation, repair, or enlargement of school buildings, or school grounds, including parking lots, athletic fields, and playgrounds. B, the improvements of school facilities for compliance with health, safety, or code requirements. or C the purchase, installation or maintenance of or improvements to fixed school infrastructure including but not limited to heating, ventilation and air conditioning systems, plumbing, electrical systems and roofing. So as you can see by that definition alone um there are many projects that could uh qualify under this programming um which it makes it uh wonderful us for us to work with.
Uh kind of reading between the lines on this. Um, it seems pretty clear that the planning board is having trouble getting qualified people to commit to a uh perhaps three-year term on the design review committee uh and uh consider lots of different projects. Uh this looks like a good way of handling that problem. I expect they will try to get a pool of five to 10 people that they can contact to who will will rotate in and out on different projects. Uh and so it while technically a different committee on each project, it's likely from the same set of people who, you know, maybe somebody took six months off and now they're back on again. But it it it looks like a good system to try. Uh, so I'm in favor of this. >> Speaking as an individual. Right. >> Speaking as an individual. >> Thought so.