It may have been what happened here, but I really appreciate you answering all of these questions so thoroughly and I'm taking all this time to do that. I mean, it really did help connect a lot of dots and give me a more comprehensive view of things, so I really appreciate it. And we talked about this at our study session last week that, you know, I'll stick to two or three questions. Um If anyone ever wants to come shadow me at work and wants to see us ask different questions, feel free. It'd be fun. Um so, I'm sorry. I know I'm a professional question asker, so I didn't mean to go overboard, but I really appreciate I really [snorts] appreciate all the work that y'all put into this because it was clearly a lot, and so I don't take any of this lightly, so thank you so much.
>> match, that's what I'm saying. I'm not questioning your reimbursement levels. So, no, it's it's all right. So, there's a type there is a typo in the the math there, Rich, but >> Regardless, the the message that you're sending is that you're reevaluating what's in there, looking to discuss it with the union. And we already have an MOU with them, which Looking at work job postings where where there's a quite a group of us that I do on this work. It's it's a lot of work, by the way, just doing it looking at all this stuff, but it's certainly something that Bill Whitehead and the union is working with us on. So, we'll get back to you on more updates on this as well. I see what you're saying, Jess, on this. Okay, yeah. But, it's just a While you're having that conversation, is it worth having a conversation about VES if >> [clears throat] >> they would consider re- if the union would be considered But, the clubs aren't in the contract, so I don't know why Mike said that.
Did I hear that? And I >> or families, >> it's always ex it's always we always have that. I know we do. But I think what we miss there isn't always here's what I'm going to say. Some people won't tell you that they're in a hardship. You know what I mean? They're not going to come out and say, "I'm not going to be able to pay that." Because of the pride that they have that they're going to have to make sure that they pay that. So whether we have a policy for hardship, I think it needs to come from a place of understanding as opposed to sending out an invoice and telling parents that your child is not going to be able to participate in promotion ceremonies because you haven't paid this bill is going to freak me out as a parent to say, "Crap, I didn't know that that was going to be something that was going to stop my kid from being able to participate.
They're going to be separate separate ballot questions, uh, for that particular district. But I'm not suggesting it for you. That's a very unique situation. >> Other questions? >> Thank you. And the only other thing I'll mention, um, it's probably clear, but, um, when it comes time to make the motion, if you can make it clear what dollar amount on the bond and what percentage on the override, just because you do have two resolutions, I don't want any confusion with the board or the public as to what was approved. So, if you could be clear to specify the the bond amount and the override percentage. >> Yeah, those are just those are just samples basically. >> Yeah. Right. Yeah, >> those are three those are both on 3.1. like that, >> right? >> So, what would that look like to us as a district if we decided to put the 30 and the 50 million on on the ballot?
Thank you. Board members, do we have any other comments, wonderings, or questions? Ms. Marquez, you don't either? I thought I wrote down a note. Um The only thing that like I guess sort of a a wondering and thought is again, being a parent of a third grader, just kind of and and seeing like her progression and stuff and sitting in these the meetings and going over the progress monitoring reports. Like one thing that I I feel is is somewhat missing or maybe it's not being reported, but I feel like there's not necessarily enough like handwriting pencil to paper writing going on and I know that, you know, that is um huge in increasing literacy, letter recognition, and fluency, all that. So, um you know, maybe that's something that maybe on the learning walk can be pointed out to me more. Um but just like in my experience, it it feels like um you know, I feel kids could use more of that and that could, you know, possibly be even be a game changer.
The clubs are something totally different. They're not >> I didn't say that. I said the stipends stipends. I don't think that they have stipends in the elementary schools. I Yeah, so I think we've got a huge list of clubs. I don't think we've reviewed it this year. We had it in the past. There's definitely money, but is that student activity funds that we can't use for other I have no idea. I like we had a garden club. We had like a I don't know how those work. So, we need some guidance from Aaron on that, but there was money that's budgeted and set aside for some of that stuff. It might be better to We're just talking about stipends here. I know you guys are talking about clubs, but we're just >> I kind of like pivoted it off of that because I realized that we thought oh, we might have stuff budgeted that we're not using when you when you brought up the point of there might be stipends budgeted that we're not using.
let me remove everything that I need to do this month and make sure this $149 bill is going to be paid. Where does that leave the parent or the person without even thinking that there they were in a hardship? Because nobody thinks like that. They think, let me make sure it's taken care of. That's where I'm thinking. >> I get it. >> Because I'm not going to go and say I'm having a hard time because nobody wants to come out and say that. Nobody wants to feel like they're a charity case. So, I want us to take the take the point of this is what's available. Here's all the information. Yes, these are fees. Yes, these are things you need to be responsible for, but also take it I mean look at it from the perspective of we're here to be supportive. We're not here to punish students to the degree that I think that sometimes they feel like that it is punishment.
>> Well, I don't know. Honestly, I think it would >> we could possibly do 80. >> Yeah, probably want to go 30 20 in order to try. You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah, >> I think it'd probably be wiser just to put one. People might think we were getting Yeah, people might think we were getting greedy and voting no over both, you know, trying to get two bonds at the same time. >> Ever Sorry, >> I don't remember having an override and a bond together. Have we done that >> before? Have we a long time ago? >> I don't know. I'm new. >> I don't know that we have. >> We haven't in the in the >> And I don't know that we've ever asked for 15% either. I think it's always been 10. >> Yeah. >> But here we are again. >> I don't want to do this again.
Um and I I've probably brought it up in a meeting before, but I'll leave it at that. >> [laughter] >> Uh it's a very timely wondering. I do want to share that we um as literacy as a literacy team and support of literacy, feel similarly. Um it's actually something that I just turned around when you were talking and smiled at my coaches because we talked about this last week and actually have tomorrow um we are meeting to develop a plan for this summer um to integrate more of that handwriting into our kindergarten units. So, we're starting the work. We are definitely in line noticing the same things. Love it. Any other comments? All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for answering all the questions and don't ever feel bad for overdoing anything, Madam Vice President. I think we got really good conversations out of it and I think these conversations kind of help us, too, because one of the things that we need to be accountable and responsible to is getting better out of our effective questions.
I thought about what about clubs? I don't know if there's stipends in the elementary level. >> Didn't Didn't you when we met last time, didn't you give us a list of you know, it was $100 here, $500 there. You You went through all those lines and all those accounts that weren't being used, didn't you? You talked to me both of you. What's the question? >> When we last met, you gave us an entire list of you know, you you cut $100 here, $500 there. Those were all lines of things that weren't being used or hadn't been used in a while, didn't you? Yeah, I I mean Yeah, I mean we're talking about line items and yeah, I mean the challenge is you know, in any given year we have one account our budget is built on sort of an aggregate, right? So, we we have one line item call it you know, lighting repairs.
I appreciate that Mr. Bates also shared that students should have good equipment and that should mean not only they care about it, but we show a care in the overall essence of what we're providing and how we're providing it. Um, this type of information helps parents to understand that we do invest and that their responsibility too is to make sure that they're understanding that. But on the other side of that, I want us to also be understanding of the time and the place and and where we are in financial types of situations as as a community, as a low-income community, as a poverty as a povertystricken community. Um, that's just what I think we need to recognize that as all of them, we're not going to tell you that I can't do it because that's not in our nature. but we will suffer somewhere else just so that's taken care of and that's not not fair.
No, it's it's nerve-wracking. It's bad dreams. >> You think you have bad dreams? >> Thank you. I think >> I think you've answered every question I've had board that all the questions answered. Great. Any other comments from the from the public here? >> Oh, good. >> Hi, I'm Katherine Shamway. I'm a parent in the district and I just wanted to give you some of my personal thoughts on the bond and override. Um I was very hesitant going for the full 50 a few months ago, maybe even a few weeks ago, but I've spent a lot of time um researching uh the politics of bonds and overrides, the needs of the school, talking with various people, and um I just really feel that our school needs the 50 million. And I want you guys to know that I am going to fight to support whatever you choose, whether it's the 30 or the 50.
So, this is a two-way street, right? We can't overwhelm with information and ask all these things or get involved in the operations, but we will and we are working at getting better at asking strategic questions versus the ins and outs of how things work. So, we appreciate you guys also being patient with us. Um we're all learning together. Moving and see, this is not bad. This is not good. It's just a learning curve and we pivot and then we move on to the next, but I really, really appreciate you guys. With that being said, I move the governing board approve progress monitoring report goal four, report three. May I have a second? Second. All those in favor? I. I. Any nays?
We'll be under budget a little bit, but boiler repairs will be a little bit above and all of those things kind of balance out. Um I mean I budgeted for all of the current stipends. If we're talking just stipends, I budget by I don't know offhand what's in the contract and or the budget in this moment for elementary stipends per se, um but we do have you know, existing list of stipends. Clubs. Clubs. What about the Yeah, and everything in the contract is budgeted for 427. It's what I'm working on right now. The clubs, too? Um no. The I don't know those the clubs for the elementary. [clears throat] I'm working on the contract stipends. >> There's no stipends There's no stipends in the elementary clubs. >> Like yes, the band and chorus concert, the art show, the fifth grade orient- fifth grade orientation, kindergarten orientation.
>> And President Mona, thank you. Thank you for that information. Thank you for that background um as well um for the community um what I also want to point out um the that this challenge is preventable. um uh what we these type of uh fees um they are preventable um what we're trying to do and I'm inviting the community so we can collaborate and work together as to how do we continue to u teach a life skill uh which is how do take how do we take care of of of what's around and to put it into perspective also to the families what the point that I I also would like to highlight is based on the fees um that we spending every year. We could be replacing uh an old bus with a new bus or we can also is the equivalent of the 2% of increase that we need for teachers every single year.
>> Um, I also just wanted, again, I know you were concerned about people turning out to vote. I wanted to remind you that it is a bigger election this year, and for that reason, I think we will get a bit of a better turnout. Um, and uh, sorry, my thoughts are just gone. I just, um, yeah, I just, it's a tough decision. I I I um understand it. I just wanted you to know that when I think about doing this whole fight again in five or 10 years, it exhausts me already. >> I know. >> And so, for that reason, I I think you're going to get people who are mad you've asked for 50 now. You're going to have people who are mad in 10 years that you're asking for money again. It's kind of a split. It's kind of a coin toss for me, >> but I just wanted you to know that you have my support.
Hearing none, motion passes. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That brings us to item six, public comments. And we will start with Brandy Wilkins. And you will have 2 minutes, okay? Thank you. I'm not certain how this meeting normally is set up, but I've been to a lot of different meetings in the past several months. Um I've been to school board meetings. I've been to county supervisor meetings. Anyway, my name is Brandy Wilkins. I am a community member here in the Creighton School District. I do not have children here, but I live directly across from Loma Linda school. Um I guess I'm here to voice my concerns about maybe some of the things that I see happening in our neighborhoods. Um I'm part of also a rapid response group that kind of operates in this area. And um we support and check in on the day laborers over at Home Depot.
So, there are stipend positions that are in the contract. >> be like I need But stipends are salaries, Eric, right? Stipends are in the in the teachers' contract. Stipends are salaries. Clubs, you could have a garden club that they're raising money for to buy the plants, to buy the soil, to buy the art supplies. >> Or I thought that if they wanted to do a club, we would allocate money for them. Like I know in the past they've come for like the kids have come and The cooking club. Right, they Right, we allocate We don't allocate money We don't allocate stipends for the No, stipends are in the contract. But you might do a stipend for the teacher who may lead it. And we might do a stipend They raise their own money. If they want to make crepes, they need to raise their own money for flour and oil So, they fundraise That's right.
>> Um we only get a bucket of money. Um if we continue to collaborate and and and our put our efforts together, this is something again that is preventable. Um, and we continue to support our our our staff with providing them the the skills that they need to manage it. Uh, but this is a great opportunity that I I would like to invite our members of the community, our students and our staff because these fees are preventable. All these are preventable. Um, and definitely we will continue to work with families um and find ways in how to support them. Um but we we we will continue to find um also uh how to maximize our our funding. >> Thank you, sir. >> Mr. V or Miss Leonard, anything? Um I just had a question on um the information provided that it has on there that for the 2627 school year um where it says that the district's going to transition away from the take-home Chromebooks.
So, thank you. >> Thanks for those comments and thoughts. I think, and correct me somebody, but the bond that we we we bonded for 15 million last time, and I think that 90% of that went into the junior high to the renovation of the junior high to what it is now. >> She's got numbers. >> Courtney, >> I'd have to look at the numbers again, but I I I thought it was closer to three million at the junior high. Um, and then, but I and we can take a look at those numbers again as just as how the break the breakdown. Um, we we had it I think in the do we have that in the April board meeting that cost um comparison. >> I'm not sure. I but I I don't believe it was as as much as it wasn't that because there were several things that were on >> Well, the buses were >> on the buses.